Nov 05, 2020 Planning Commission

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>> EVERYBODY TAKE YOUR SEATS. I WILL CALL THE MEETING TO

[Call to Order]

I AM THE VICE CHAIRMAN. I WILL START THE MEETING.

SO WE WILL START ON TIME. BEFORE WE GET STARTED THE FIRST

[Pledge of Allegiance]

ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE PLEDGE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG. OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL I WILL INTRODUCE THE PARTICIPANTS TONIGHT.

I AM RALPH PUCKHABER, I'M THE VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE CLAY COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. STARTING OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT.

NOT EVERYBODY IS ON THE DAIS, BECAUSE OF SOCIAL DISTANCING.

WE HAVE THREE REPRESENTATIVES HERE FROM THE COURT'S OFFICE.

THEY TAKE OUR MINUTES. WE HAVE CHRISTINE BLANCHARD WHO IS TAKING OUR MINUTES. STACY TOWNS.

AND THE GENERAL COUNCIL JUSTIN DOOR ANSE.

STARTING AT MY RIGHT, YOUR LEFT, PETE DAVIS, CUSTOMER PETE DAVIS. WE HAVE COMMISSIONER BO NORTON.

I'VE INTRODUCED MYSELF. TO MY LEFT IS CUSTOMER MARY BRIDGMAN. ON THE RIGHT END DOWN THERE IS COMMISSIONER -- AT THE SMALL DESK, JAMES FOSSA REPRESENTS THE STATE COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD AT TEASE MEETINGS.

OUT IN THE AUDIENCE WE HAVE ED LEHMAN OUR DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.

RIGHT BEHIND HIM IS CHEREESE STEWART, WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

CAROLYN, WHO IS HERE, CAROLYN MORGAN, WHO IS CHIEF PLANNER.

CHAD WILLIAMS IS THE CHIEF ZONING OFFICER OF THE COUNTY.

I THINK THAT IS EVERYONE. OS USUAL, OUR TOWN MANAGER IS HERE. WE THANK THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FOR BEING HERE TO KEEP US ALL SAFE AND KEEP ORDER IN THE HOUSE. THE CLAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION IS AN ADVISERY TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE HERE TONIGHT ARE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

AS WE GO THROUGH EACH ITEM, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE DATE THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WILL HEAR THOSE.

THEY HE WILL EITHER HEAR THREE WEEKS FROM TONIGHT, OR THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THEY WILL HEAR TWICE, NEXT WEEK AND THREE WEEKS FROM TONIGHT. HE WITH ASK IF YOU HAVE A CELLPHONE THAT YOU PUT IT ON VIBRATE.

SHOULD YOU GET A CALL, PLEASE STEP OUTSIDE IF YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE CALL. WITH THAT, WE'LL LAUNCH INTO OUR AGENDA. THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS

[1.  Approval of Minutes]

>> COMMISSION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION FROM JOE AND A SECOND BY MARY.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR SAY "AYE"? AND ALL OPPOSED.

[Public Comment]

ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENT.

COME TO THE MIC, PLEASE. THAT IS MR. OST.

>> YES, SIR, 290432910, HIGHWAY 21.

IT'S HARD TO FIND THE AGENDA ON THERE.

USUALLY YOU CAN GO TO YOUR AREA ON THE WEBSITE AND CLICK ON THE AGENDA. I COULDN'T FIND THAT.

WE SHOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO DO CALL-INS STILL FOR PUBLIC

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THEY DIDN'T SAY YOU HAD TO TURN THEM OFF.

I WOULD ALSO ASK THAT YOU PUT A MAP OF THE ADULT ENTERTAINMENT SPOTS FOR THAT ZONING DISTRICT ON THE WALL SO THE CITIZENS CAN SEE WHERE THOSE ARE AT. ALONG WITH THE ROAD LIST, THE PRIORITY LIST OF THE ROADS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DONE SO WE CAN LOOK AT ALL THAT. AS FAR AS THE SCHOOL BOARD, I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED AT THE LAST MAIN MEETING, THE FIRST THURSDAY. THE SUPERINTENDENT CROSSED HIS FINGERS THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I FINDS THAT TO BE VERY SAD. HE DOESN'T WANT TO HEAR FROM THE CITIZENS. THEY TALKED ABOUT HIM GETTING BACK TO EVERYBODY'S E-MAIL BEFORE IT COMES TO THE MEETING.

I GUESS THE CITIZENS, IF THEY DON'T READ THEIR OFFICIAL'S E-MAILS, THEN I STRONGLY SUGGEST, IF YOU WANT TO CALL HIM, YOU MIGHT AS WELL E-MAIL HIM SO IT'S IN WRITING.

WE DEFINITELY NEED BETTER PLANNING.

WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH KIDS BEING HIT AT BUS STOPS.

AND ISSUES LIKE THAT. I WOULD ASK CITIZENS IF THEY LOOK INTO BUY IN CLAY COUNTY OR SELL AND BUY IN CLAY COUNTY, TO LOOK AT THE VILLAGES IN CENTRAL FLORIDA, SEE THE PLAYGROUND.

IT'S AN HOUR FROM DISNEY WORLD. THIS IS GOING TO BE WAY OVERBUILT HERE, TWO-FIFTHS OF THE COUNTY IS TRYING TO TAKE THE 129 MILLION, FOR THE MOST PART, 30 MILLION IN INTEREST AND MAKE RECALLEN'S DISTRICT, THE ROADS THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR INCLUDING INTEREST. THE MSBU.

THAT IS TOTALLY UNFAIR. I DON'T REALLY HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT NOT GETTING AS MUCH MONEY IF YOU GO OVER THE 25% ON THE STATE ROADS, OR HOWEVER THAT PLAYS OUT.

OUR KIDS BEING HIT ON 315 C AND PEOPLE DYING ON STATE ROAD 21, THAT SHOULD BE MORE OF A PRIORITY THAN THE CHILD ABUSE OF FOOTBALL THAT OUR SCHOOL IS TRYING TO PUSH.

>> I'LL ASK YOU TO STOP THERE. YOU HAVE EXEELDED YOUR ALLOTTED

TIME. >> YES, SIR.

>> WE ARE TRYING TO GET THEM TO WEAR MASK, HOW WILL WE DO THAT

RUNNING INTO FOOTBALL? >> THANK YOU.

I WILL INTERRUPT THE AGENDA HERE FOR JUST A MINUTE FOR A COUPLE OF THINGS. I HAVE BEEN INFORMED OUR CHAIRMAN, MR. BOURRÉ WILL BE A SENT TONIGHT.

WE'LL SHOW HIM IN ABSENT. HE HAD AN EMERGENCY TO ATTEND TO. ANOTHER ISSUE IS KIND OF SAD IN A WAY. I WANT TO ANNOUNCE TO EVERYBODY THAT TONIGHT CAROLYN MORGAN, WHO IS OUR CHIEF OF PLANNING, THIS WILL BE HER LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WITH US.

SHE IS, AFTER 12 YEARS WITH THE COUNTY, GOING TO RETIRE AND FORGET ALL ABOUT MASTER PLANS AND ANYTHING TO DO WITH PLANNING. IF YOU LOOK AT HER OFFICE, YOU WOULD THINK CAROLYN IS A LIFE-LONG GATOR.

SHE ACTUALLY IS A PRODUCTS OF UCLA AND HAS A DIPLOMA SIGNED BY RONALD REAGAN TO PROVE IT. I GUESS HE WAS GOVERNOR? THE GOVERNOR SIGNS IT? THERE YOU GO.

CAROLYN START WITH CLAY COUNTY IN 2008.

PREVIOUSLY SHE WORKED WITH THE CITY OF GAINSVILLE AS A COUNTY AND WORKS FOR COUNTY SCHOOLS AS THEIR -- FOR JIM FOSSA, JIM, HE GOT DEMOTED. HE WAS THE DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES, ESSENTIALLY. TOOK CARE OF WHERE ALL THE SCHOOLS GO. HELPED KEEPING BUILDINGS FROM FALLING DOWN, FORECAST ALL OF THAT.

CAROLYN IS A TIRELESS WORKER AND ALWAYS HAD THE BEST INTEREST OF CLAY COUNTY CITIZENS AT HEART, WHICH I WILL ATTEST.

CAROLYN HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTAL WITH THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN. WE WISH HER ALL THE BEST.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

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>> GO OFF AND ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT.

YOU DON'T EVER HAVE TO COME HERE AGAIN.

WONDERFUL. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO

SAY? >> I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I REALLY HAVE ENJOYED WORKING IN CLAY COUNTY.

IT'S A REALLY WONDERFUL COUNTY AND A LOT OF REALLY NICE PEOPLE HERE. IT'S GOT A BRIGHT FUTURE.

IT'S JUST A BEAUTIFUL PLACE. I WILL MISS YOU, ACTUALLY.

I WON'T MISS THE 120 MILES DRIVE.

BUT I WILL BE SAD TO LEAVE THIS COUNTY.

>> ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT. DOES ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? GO AHEAD, BILL.

>> YOU DIDN'T MENTION, MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE MASTER PLAN, THERE IS THE OVERLAY PLAN. I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU CAME ON BOARD AS WE WERE COME GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

CAROLYN WAS TIRELESS ABOUT GETTING THAT PLAN IN PLACE.

SO IT WAS A PLEASURE, ABSOLUTELY PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU.

>> THANK YOU YOU HAD A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON

THE COMMUNITY. >> WE HAVE AN AWARD.

AN AWARD WINNING PLAN. >> IT'S BEEN FUN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> DO WE HAVE A REPLACEMENT, OR WILL WE FLOUNDER? [LAUGHTER] AGAIN, AGAIN, CAROLYN. WE'LL HEAR FROM HER IN JUST A MINUTE, I THINK. WITH THAT, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE NIGHT.

OUR FIRST HEARING IS TO CONSIDER CPA 2020-09.

[1.  Public Hearing to consider CPA 2020-09 to change 21 acres from Rural Residential to Rural Fringe]

THIS IS TO CONSIDER A LARGE-SCALE AMENDMENT CHANGING RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO RURAL FRINGE ON 21 ACRES SITE LOCATED AT CR 315 AND JEREMY'S DRIVE, WHICH IS THAT NASTY TURN ON 315.

THIS IS ON OUR AGENDA LAST MONTH.

WE CONTINUED IT FOR THIS MONTH BECAUSE APPLETON WAS NOT HERE.

WILL SHE BE HERE TONIGHT? >> YES.

SHE SAID. [INAUDIBLE] THEY WILL COME BACK FOR ADOPTION PROBABLY IN JANUARY.

BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

THE COMMISSION DISTRICT 1. 21-ACRE SITE.

IT IS DEFINITELY DIVIDED BY JEREMY'S DRIVE.

THIS IS RURAL RESIDENTIAL AND THEY ARE PROPOSING THIS AS RURAL FRINGE. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF MAPS SHOWING THE EXISTING LAND USE TO THE SOUTH OF -- PUD TO THE SOUTH OF THE ZONE. CURRENTLY THE ZONE IS -- EXISTING LAND USE IS FOR FIVE ACRES AND YOU CAN GET THE DENSITY IF YOU GO DOWN TO -- UNDER RURAL FRINGE IT IS PERMITTED IF YOU GET THE DENSITY BONUS PLAN.

THESE ARE A COUPLE OF PICTURES LOOKING FROM FUZZY LANE AT THAT CORNER ON 315 LOOKING BACK AND THE PROPERTY IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 315. THIS PICTURE IS JEREMY'S DRIVE AND JEREMY'S GLEN HAS SOMETHING ALREADY IN PLACE.

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BUT IT CAN GET STARTED IN TIME. COUNTY ROAD 315, THE PUD IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION THERE. THAT IS 2.13 ZONING PER ACRE.

EXISTING JEREMY'S GLEN IS ON THREE HE LOTS.

COUNTY ROAD 315B HAS A COUPLE OF OTHER PROJECTS WHICH IS PARTIALLY DEVELOPED. GOOSE CREEK IS JUST NOW GETTING -- ABOUT TO GET STARTED IS 1.9 AND HAS A PUD.

THERE IS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SITE ON THE WEST SIDE OF COUNTY ROAD 315. THERE IS A LOT GOING ON IN THIS AREA. A LITTLE MISLEADING, THE PICTURE, BUT THERE WILL BE A LOT DOWN THERE.

THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE SITE. THIS IS JUST A LITTLE FURTHER INFORMATION ABOUT SARATOGA SPRINGS.

IT WAS APPROVED IN 2006, WHICH HAS BEEN A LONG TIME.

MAYBE PEOPLE HAVE KIND OF FORGOTTEN ABOUT IT.

IT WILL BE A BIG DEVELOPMENT. THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED CHANGE TO RURAL FRINGE.

WE FEEL WITH THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEEN ONGOING AND HAS BEEN ENTITLED IN THE AREA WILL JUSTIFY THAT CHANGE.

THAT'S IT'S RECOMMENDATION. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

OR IN THE HEARING? >> THIS IS THE DRI, THIS BLUEGREEN COLOR. THAT'S HOW CLOSE IT IS TO THIS

SITE. >> THE RED IS THE SCHOOL SIDE, I

THINK. >> NO THAT RED IS COMMERCIAL.

IT'S PART OF WILLOW SPRINGS. BUT THE SCHOOL SIDE IS FURTHER SOUTH ON THE THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD WHERE SHED ROAD

INTERSECTS. >> IS IT ON THE WEST SIDE?

>> IT IS ON THE WEST SIDE. >> IT WAS ON THE EAST SIDE AND

WE MOVED IT. >> YES.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. IT WAS ON THE EAST SIDE.

WE DID A LAND TRADE AND MOVED IT OVER TO THE WEST SIDE.

>> OKAY. THE 90-DEGREE TURN WILL ACTUALLY BE STRAIGHTENED OUT OR THAT S TURN WILL GO IN THERE.

>> IS THE NEW ALIGNMENT WILL BRING THE FREEWAY -- NOT THE FREEWAY BUT COUNTY ROAD 315 WILL SLIP THROUGH THIS PROPERTY IN AN S AND COME INTO THE SARATOGA SPRINGS PROPERTY.

THIS PART -- THE 90-DEGREE TURN WILL BE GONE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THIS LITTLE SLIP, WHETHER ANYBODY HAS OR NEEDS ACCESS AT THAT POINT.

THIS WILL BE SORT AFTER REMNANTS OF COUNTY ROAD 315 WHEN THE

IMPROVEMENT IS MADE. >> JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION, IF YOU KNOW. IS JEREMY'S DRIVE COUNTY-OWNED?

>> IT'S A PUBLIC STREET. >> I'M SEEING A PARTIAL SPLIT BY A PUBLIC STREET THAT COMMON? DO WE SEE THAT A LOT? THIS IS ALL ONE PARCEL? ONE TAX PARCEL?

>> IT IS ONE TAX PARCEL. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT USED TO BE BIGGER AND THE SPLIT MADE MORE SENSE OR SOMETHING AT THE TIME. JEREMY'S GLEN ISN'T ALL THAT OLD. THEY HAD TO BE ABLE TO GET

ACCESS. >> I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU. THIS WHOLE AREA, THE MAJORITY OF THIS AREA WAS ACQUIRED IN THE 30S AS FELLOW SHIP PARK.

JEREMY'S DRIVE WAS A DIFFERENT NAME, BUT THAT IS WHERE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FELL. THAT WAS THE ACCESS TO GET BACK

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IT'S NOT COMMON, BUT IT'S BECAUSE THERE WAS AN UNDERLYING

PLAT. >> THANK YOU.

WITH THAT I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS.

TO SPEAK? >> MY NAME IS KELLY HARTWIG.

I LIVE AT 34 TWO WALL ROAD, GREEN COVE SPRINGS.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENTS OF CLAY COUNTY A LOCK TIME AND JACKSONVILLE THE REST OF MY LIFE.

I APOLOGIZE FOR MISSING LAST MONTH'S MEETING.

IT WAS TOTALLY MY FAULT. I DID MISS.

IT IT GAVE US A GOOD ADVANTAGE TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS, SO THAT WAS HELPFUL. I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU A BIT OF HISTORY OF OUR ORIGINAL INTENT WAS TO PUT WELL AND SEPTIC TANKS AND DO A MINIMAL AMOUNT OF LOTS, 10, 15 LOTS.

I CAME TO THE COUNTY, THEY SAID WITH THE POINTS WE COULD PROBABLY MAKE. IT I WENT TO CLAY ELECTRIC, NO PROBLEM. WENT TO CLAY UTILITIES.

THEY ARE LIKE WE'LL FIGHT YOU TOOTH AND NAIL.

WE HAVE WATER AND SEWER ACROSS 315.

WE WANT YOU TO HOOK UP. WE WANT TO YOU RUN WATER AND SEWER ALL THE WAY UP AND ATTACH TO EVERY LOT.

I WENT TO THE OWNERS. I SAID LOOK, THIS IS NOT A BATTLE I'M WILLING TO FIGHT. WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO MAKE IT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE USING JEREMY'S LAKE AND NOT HAVING ANY LOCKS ACCESS 315. I DON'T WANT ANY LOTS TO ACCESS 315. WE LOOKED AT IT.

WE DETERMINED, BASED ON THE PRELIMINARY SKETCH, THAT WE FELT LIKE WE COULD DO IT WITH 26 LOTS.

WENT BACK TO THE COUNTY. IT WAS DECIDED GOING THERE WAS OUR ONLY CHOICE. SO WE HAVE REDESIGNED THIS THING. WE ARE WAITING ON A FINAL SURVEY. WE DON'T HAVE FINAL DESIGNS.

WE HAVE CONCEPT ISAL DESIGNS SHOWING 26 LOTS.

THIS A LONG PROCESS. WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH YOU GUYS TO GET THE LAND USE CHANGE AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO SUBMIT PLANS SHOWING WATER, SEWER AND WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.

THIS IS OUR FIRST STEP. HOWEVER,DY MEET WITH THE OWNERS NEXT DOOR, THE ASSOCIATION. NICE MEETING.

I WANT TO PUT STUFF ON THE RECORD SO THAT THEY KNOW WE ARE NOT -- ONE. WE'LL LIMIT IS TO 26 LOTS.

I HAVE NO DESIRE TO GO ANY MORE THAN THAT.

NEITHER DOES THE OWNER. NO. 2, THEY ASKED US TO REALIGN A COUPLE OF THE LOTS THAT CAME OUT ON JEREMY'S LANE.

WE WILL REALIGN THEM ON A SIDE STREET SO THEY WILL BACK UP TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE EXIT ON JEREMY'S LANE.

THEY WANTED THE DRIVEWAYS TO BE SET BACK SO THAT THE CARS WOULDN'T BE PARKING ON JEREMY'S LANE.

I AGREE AND I TALKED TO THE OWNERS, WE WILL MOVE THE SET-BACK ON THE HOUSES THAT FACE JEREMY'S LANE TO 35 FEET.

BY THE TIME YOU MOVE THEM BACK 35 FEET, THOSE LOTS ARE 225-FOOT DEEP. THEY ARE FAIRLY DEEP LOTS.

THEN THESE HOUSES WILL BEHAVIORAL BE 50 FEET OFF THE ROAD. WHICH GIVES YOU A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT DRIVEWAY. WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

THAT WILL BE DONE ON THE PLAT, NOT ON THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW GUIDELINES. WE HAVE ALSO SAID WE WOULD SET UP OUR ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW GUIDELINES TO HOLD THINGS THEIRS DOES. 2,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUMS. ARCHITECTURAL SHINGLE ROOFS, NO CHAIN LINK FENCES, NO ANTENNAS.

DOUBLE GARAGE. NO SINGLE GARAGES.

THESE ARE NICER HOUSES. THESE ARE NOT THE TYPE OF HOUSES THAT ARE GOING IN SOME OF THE LESS VALUE.

THEY ARE HIGHER VALUE. THEY ARE WORK LIKE RANCH STYLE HOMES. WE ARE WILLING TO PUT ALL OF THAT ON THE RECORD. WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE TO RUN WATER AND SEWER TO EVERY LOT.

THERE IS JUST NO CHOICE. THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION.

>> ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION? WE MAY ASK YOU BACK.

>> THAT'S FINE. >> IS I KNOW JEREMY'S LANE IS CURRENTLY AN ACTIVE AREA AND THIS IS SORT OF FOR STAFF AS WELL. WITH THE CHANGE THAT WE MADE TO 24-FOOT WIDTHS, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DIMENSION OF THAT ROAD IS. IS IT 20? IF SO, BECAUSE OF THIS NEW SECTION OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BE SORT OF BUT INTO THAT, DOES THAT ROAD NEED TO BE WIDENED AT

ALL? >> IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE?

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[INAUDIBLE] >> IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE WIDENED BECAUSE IT EXISTS. THE NEW ROADS GOING IN TO SUPPORT THE SUBDIVISION WILL HAVE TO MEET THE 24 FEET.

>> I THOUGHT BECAUSE OF THE FRONTAGE ON THE JEREMY'S SIDE IT

MIGHT HAVE TO BE RECONFIGURED. >> ANYTHING ELSE?

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE ONE CARD ON THIS. RUSSELL OST.

>> RUSSELL OST. NOBODY GETS IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. [LAUGHTER]

>> WE HAD A BRIEF DISCUSSION IN OCTOBER, WE A REALLY GOOD MEETING WITH KELLIE. LETTING KNOW WHAT OUR CONCERNS WITH. ONE IS OBVIOUSLY SINCE THIS IS ONE OF THE TWO BIGGEST INVESTMENTS THAT MOST FAMILIES MAKE, IS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR INVESTMENTS ARE HELD SOLID. WHERE WE ARE NOW WE HAVE HOMES BETWEEN 330,000, AND ONE TO 635. HAD SEVERAL BIDS JUST BELOW THAT. WE WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE OUR INVESTMENTS WILL HOLD TRUE. WE TALKED ABOUT TWO THINGS THAT MADE ME FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE. WE ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH US AS NEIGHBORS. I BELIEVE, YOU NEED TO CHECK, THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT TO OUR BYLAWS.

MAYBE THEY WOULD USE THE SAME BYLAWS FOR OUR SUBDIVISION.

IT'S 2400 SQUARE FEET MINIMUM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE ARE NO HOMES -- I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS THAT SMALL OF A HOME IN THERE. THE ONLY OTHER THING WE WANT TO MAKE SURE TO ADDRESS, WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS THAT MAY BE PROTECTED AS FAR AS WILDLIFE. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CONSIDERED WHEN WE DO THE PLATS ARE DRAWN.

WE HAVE GORE FER TORTOISES OUT THERE AND SWAWLOW TAIL KITE.

THEY COME IN EVERY YEAR IN MARCH TO APRIL.

THERE IS FOUR TO SIX NESTING PAIRS.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE TREES DON'T GO ANYWHERE.

THE OTHER THING, EVERYBODY KNOWS IT'S JEREMY'S DRIVE.

WE SAY JEREMY'S LANE BUT IT IS JEREMY'S DRIVE.

WE KNOW THAT WELL BECAUSE THAT SIGN HAS BEEN STOLEN SEVERAL TIMES AND REPLACED. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH KELLIE AS IT GOES TO THE NEXT

PLANNING STAGE. >> SO ESSENTIALLY YOU DON'T HAVE

ANY OBJECTIONS. >> NOT TO THE CHANGE.

NOT TO THE CHANGE OF USE. THE PROPERTY IS THEIRS.

ALL WE ASK IS WITH THE CHANGE NOTHING COMES IN -- LIKE WE SAY, THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY. THE OTHER THING WE ARE VERY CONCERNED, WE HAVE RULES AGAINST OVERNIGHT PARKING.

THAT ROAD IS BUSY. NOT TO HAVE 32 HOMES RIGHT THERE, IT IS BUSY WITH EVERYBODY HAS SOMEONE COMING IN.

A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SERVICES THAT COME IN.

THERE IS CONSTANT TRAFFIC THERE. I WALK THERE EVERY DAY.

I SEE PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON THERE.

WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THAT CLEAN.

THAT COULD BE A SAFETY ISSUE. >> THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISH TO SEE SPEAK ON THIS?

MR. OTO? >> JAMES OTTO, MY ADDRESS IS ON RECORD. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT KIDS ARE DYING ON OUR STREETS OUT THERE AS YOU KEEP BUILDING MORE AND BUILDING MORE. THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS JUST NOT THERE THAT YOU SPOKE ON. IT WILL BE OUTRAGEOUS THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WITH ALL THE ROADS YOU ARE TRYING TO DO AT THE SAME TIME AS WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO BUILD ALL THIS.

I AGREE WITH WHAT THE OTHER FOLKS SAID.

THERE IS A LOT GOING ON. THERE IS ALREADY TOO MUCH GOING ON. FOR TEN YEARS, WE DIDN'T HAVE AN IMPACT FEE FOR THE ROADS. THAT HAS IMPACTED THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. WE NEED TO JUST SLOW DOWN.

SO WE TALK ABOUT THE 315 ROAD ALL THE TIME IN HERE AT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. YOU JUST SAID, 400 PLUS IN ONE AREA GOING IN. THEN THERE IS OTHERS ALREADY GOING IN. I HEARD THAT BEING SAID.

FOLKS REALLY NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT SEPTEMBER 8 MEETING

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THE PLANNING HAS BEEN SO BAD IN THIS COUNTY, FROM THE '08 UNTIL NOW, TO BEFORE '08. I HAVE BEEN COMING TO THESE MEETINGS SINCE ABOUT THAT TIME. JUST IT AFTER THAT I HAVE BEEN COMING AS LONG AS SHE HAS. A LITTLE BIT LESS.

I'D LIKE TO SEE -- IT STARTED OUT AS AGRICULTURE.

YOU FOLKS DON'T MENTION THEY CAME IN FRONT OF THE BOARD FOR THIS, TO CHANGE IT TO THIS. NOW WE WANT TO CHANGE IT TO THAT. WHY CAN'T YOU JUST LEAVE IT WITH WHAT IT IS? THERE IS JUST WAY TOO MUCH GOING ON THERE. MR. LONDON DID A HUGE PRESENTATION ON WHAT THIS COUNTY HAS GOT.

WE PAID FOR THAT. THE BOARD IS NOT LISTENING TO IT AT ALL. NOT WHATSOEVER.

WHY ARE WE PAYING FOR STUDIES IF YOU AREN'T LISTENING TO IT.

>> THANK YOU. >> I STILL GOT 35 SECONDS.

>> STAY ON TOPIC, THOUGH. >> YEAH, SO, I'M NOT REALLY HEARING A LOT ABOUT THE ROAD TRIPS.

I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT.

HONESTLY, I MEAN THIS STARTED OUT AS AGRICULTURAL PROPERTY.

SO WE ARE GOING FROM RESIDENTIAL, RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO RURAL FRINGE. IF WE COULD GO BACK IN TIME AND FIND OUT WHEN IT WAS AGRICULTURE, WHY DIDN'T THEY DO WHAT THEY DID WHEN THEY CHANGED THE ZONING? WHY DIDN'T THEY DO IT THEN? AND NOW COME BACK AND WANT TO CHANGE IT. LET THEM HAVE WHAT THEY HAD TO BEGIN WITH. THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE ENTITLED

TO. >> THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS? NO. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THEN.

>> I WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD.

ANYBODY? DISCUSSION, ANY MORE QUESTIONS?

SO ON. >> I MAKE A MOTION.

>> SECOND. >> A COUPLE OF COMMENTS BEFORE WE CALL THE VOTE ON IT, IF NOBODY HAS ANY DISCUSSION.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IN THE MINUTES THE COMMITMENT THAT THE APPLICANTS MADE. ALTHOUGH IT SOUNDS LIKE THE HOMEOWNERS ARE LOOKING FOR A LITTLE MORE.

THAT WILL ALL BE TAKEN CARE OF, AS YOU GO THROUGH THE DESIGN REVIEW PHASE. I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN VERY GENEROUS TO THE THINGS THAT HE'S AGREED TO.

IT IS A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE BACK THERE.

THAT AREA WILL BE HUGE. TALKING ABOUT AGRICULTURE.

THAT WHOLE 4700 HOMES GOING ON THE OLD SHED -- WHAT DAIRY WAS THAT? THE DAIRY BACK THERE.

SO THERE LAB WHOLE LOT IN THAT AREA OF THE COUNTY, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE NEW EXPRESSWAY GOES THROUGH.

IT WILL HAVE CLOSE ACCESS TO THAT EXPRESSWAY, TOO.

I WILL TAKE THE VOTE. >> WAIT.

>> GO AHEAD. >> I GUESS IT'S THE WESTERN PART OF THE PARCEL IS IDENTIFIED AS A FLOOD PLAIN?

>> CORRECT. >> ARE YOU GOING TO ELEVATE THAT

AND TACK ADVANTAGE -- >> STAY OUT OF IT.

IT WILL BE A PRESERVE. >> THAT'S WHAT I WANTED.

THANK YOU. >> ANYTHING ELSE? WITH THAT WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO ACCEPT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, STATE AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? IT'S UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU. >> QUICK QUESTION.

>> YES, SIR. >> DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY IDEA ON THE TIME FRAME OF THE 315 ES CURVE? YOU NEED TO TALK TO OUR PLANNER.

IT BASICALLY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE ALREADY.

THE ISSUE IS THAT IT'S REALLY TIED INTO THAT BIG DRI DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THEY WERE GOING TO FUND

IT, RIGHT, OR SOMETHING. >> SO WE ARE LOOKING AT FIVE

YEARS? >> FIVE YEARS.

[INAUDIBLE] >> THAT'S CAROLYN.

ARE YOU GOING TO LEAVE NOW? WE'LL NEVER SEE YOU AGAIN? WILL YOU SEND AWSES POST CARD ONCE IN A WHILE? IF ANYBODY WAS HERE JUST NOR THAT ITEM AND THEY WANT TO LEAVE, PLEASE DO SO, IF YOU WANT.

JUST EXIT QUIETLY. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE HEARING,

[2.  Public Hearing To Consider A Land Development Code Change To Remove Screening Standards For RV & Boat Storage in IA and IB Zoning Under Certain Conditions]

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MR. WILLIAMS, YOU HAVE THIS ONE? >> YES, SIR.

I WILL START SAYING BECAUSE THIS IS CHANGED TO CONDITIONAL USE BOTH ITEMS 2 AND 3 WILL BE HEARDER BY THE BCC ON THE 10TH

AND THE 24TH. >> A TENTH AND THEN VOTE ON THE

24TH. >> RIGHT.

STAFF ADDED CERTAIN INDUSTRIAL ZONING CONTRACTS, THE CONDITIONAL USE EVER THE R.V. STORAGE.

AT THE TIME ONE IS BEING DEVELOPED NOW, IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION. THE COMPLETE SCREENING CONDITION MAY NOT BE PRACTICAL TO INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER. SCREENING REQUIRES A FENCE AROUND THE THE BOUNDARY. STAFF IS PROPOSING TO REMOVE THE CONDITION FOR INDUSTRIAL ZONED PROPERTIES WHERE THE ZONING IS THE SAME. JUST BECAUSE THE PICTURES ARE WORTH 1,000 WORDS, I RAN OUT TODAY TO SHOW YOU.

THIS IS ONE OF THE LOCAL INDUSTRIAL PARKS.

AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU CAN HAVE THAT MOUND.

YOU CAN HAVE HEAVY EQUIPMENT. YOU CAN HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS.

YOU DON'T HAVE A FENCE. STAFF AGREES WITH.

THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> WHERE IS THAT?

>> IT'S OFF 15A, INDUSTRIAL PARK OFF 15A.

THAT WAS THE ARGUMENT WITH US, YOU CAN HAVE HEAVY EQUIPMENT WITH NO SCREENING, BUT YOU SCREEN R.V.S.

IT'S A NO-BRAINER. >> ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WILLIAMS? ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS?

GO AHEAD. >> IS THIS JUST FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY? OR DOES THIS BLANKET THE ENTIRE

COUNTY? >> THIS WILL BE FOR ANYTHING THAT ZONED IB OR IA, IT HAS TO BE WHERE THE PARCELS -- THEY HAVE TO BE CONCERNED WITH THE BOUNDARIES.

IT CAN'T BE -- YOU STILL HAVE SCREENING ELEMENTS OF, SAY, THE INDUSTRIAL WAS ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL.

YOU WOULD STILL HAVE THAT. IT'S JUST WHERE IT'S INDUSTRIAL, INDUSTRIAL, INDUSTRIAL, INDUSTRIAL, AND YOU'RE BUILDING IN THE MIDDLE, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT HAVE THAT OPAQUE THERE.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS.

COMMENT ON THIS PROPOSAL? WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC CHANGE. JAMES OTTO, 2904 THROUGH 2010 BLANEY BOULEVARD. I THINK WE HEARD SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS ON NO. 1, WHERE THEY SAY THEY WILL DO SOMETHING.

THEN THEY DON'T DO IT. I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE CHANGED. I THINK THEY SHOULD BE USING SOME KIND OF FENCING SO THAT, AT LEAST FROM THE ROADWAY, MAYBE ON THE SIDES, ALSO, IF IT CAN BE SEEN FROM THE ROADWAY.

OBVIOUSLY WE HAD THESE IN PLAY FOR A REASON.

THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT WILL BE ON 218 WHERE THEY DON'T NEED TO DO IT EITHER. I'M REALLY AGAINST NOT HAVING THESE TYPE OF BUSINESSES -- THEY GOT THE SLATS THAT CAN GO THROUGH THEM, TOO. THEY HAVE SOME NICE -- NOT ONLY SHOULD THEY HAVE THE FENCE, BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE THE FOLIAGE THERE, TOO. THEY JUST WANT TO ADVERTISE THEIR PRODUCTS AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

THIS IS GIVING THEM THEIR WAY. IS WHAT I'M SEEING.

WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO DRIVE DOWN 218, YOU JUST APPROVED AN RV AND BOAT STORAGE. PEOPLE WITH A THE LOT OF MONEY, THEY DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT THEIR OWN $100,000 BOAT IN THEIR DRIVEWAY. YOU KNOW? YOU THINK THE REST OF US WANTS TO GO DOWN THE ROAD AND LOOK AT IT? I DON'T THINK SO.

YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND -- I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR OFF TRACK HERE. I THINK THERE IS ALREADY REASONS WHY THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE. YOU GUYS GO THROUGH THESE SAME ISSUES OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WHERE IF YOU ALLOW FOR THIS ONE, THEN YOU WILL HAVE TO ALLOW FOR THE NEXT ONE.

AND THE NEXT ONE. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW BAD OF AN EYESORE THAT IS ON I-17 COMING INTO LOOKING AT THAT STORAGE THERE. IT'S GETTING BETTER BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS FILLING UP AROUND IT.

TALK ABOUT AN EYESORE, STORAGE UNITS.

>> THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE

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COME ON UP. >> I APOLOGIZE.

IT'S KELLY HARTWIG, WALL ROAD AGAIN.

I HAVE TO TAKE MY NEIGHBORS OUT AND TAKE CARE OF THEM FIRST.

I'M SURE CHAD HAS TOLD YOU WHAT WE WENT ACROSS ON THIS WHOLE H.V. THING. THIS IS ZONED HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.

WE COULD PARK BULLDOZERS, WE CAN PUT GRAVEL DOWN, PUT CONTAINERS, DO WHATEVER WE WANT TO DO AND NOT EVEN HAVE TO ASK.

LITTLE STANDARD ZONING. BECAUSE HE IS CALLING IT THE BOAT STORAGE IS WHERE HE FELL INTO THIS.

I WILL PROBABLY COME BACK TO ASK FOR MORE LATER ON.

THIS IS THE FIRST OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET DOWNEN IT'S RIDICULOUS TO PUT UP A WOOD FENCE, WHICH IS, TO ME, HIDEOUS.

THAT'S OUR WHOLE POINT IN THIS. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

QUESTION. ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

BROUGHT TO MINDS. DO WE REQUIRE, LIKE WHERE YOU HAVE A ROAD, ANY SCREENING BETWEEN THE ROAD AND INDUSTRIAL

PROPERTY? >> IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE USED FOR. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT'S USED TO STORE MATERIALS. IF THERE IS A BUILDING ASSOCIATED WITH IT AND PARKING THEN THERE WOULD BE A RIGHT-OF-WAY BUFFER, WHICH WOULD NOT BE A SCREEN BUT PLANTING WITH HEDGES AND TREES. A LOT DEPENDS WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH THE INDUSTRIAL ZONED PROPERTY.

IN MOST CASES, LIKE IN THIS EXAMPLE, THEY ARE USING IT MORE FOR STORAGE OF CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS AND CONCRETE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. VERSUS -- FOR INSTANCE, IN THE SAME AREA, I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE TAKEN A PICTURE OF IT.

WE HAVE SEVERAL CONCRETE COMPANIES.

THE CONCRETE COMPANIES HAVE THEIR STORAGE YARD, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE AN OFFICE. WHERE THEY HAVE AN OFFICE, THEY HAVE PARKING THAT GOES TO IT, THEY HAVE PERIMETER PLANTINGS AROUND IT. THE OFFICE IS THE TRIGGER.

>> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> JUST TRIGGERED SOMETHING FOR ME.

WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY MOVE THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND THEY TAKE THE GRAVEL AWAY AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND JUST WANT TO KEEP IT AS A BOAT AND RV STORAGE. WILL THEY BE REQUIRED TO REVERT BACK AND PUT THE PRIVACY FENCING UP?

>> WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS IF THEY USE IT AS A BOAT AND RV STORAGE, THAT IS SHIELDING. IF THEY NO LONGER WOULD BE BOAT AND RV STORAGE, THEY COULD REMOVE THE FENCE.

UNDER THE CURRENT CONDITIONAL USE THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE

THAT FENCE. >> I'M TALKING OPPOSITE OF THAT.

YOU MAY NOT HAVE UNDERSTOOD MY QUESTIO.

IF THE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY -- NOT NECESSARILY THIS PARTICULAR SITE, BUT FOR OTHER SITES. IF SOMEBODY DECIDES THEY DO NOT WANT TO USE IT AS A STORAGE FACILITY FOR THEIR HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND THEIR GRAVEL AND PIPES AND BUILDING TERLINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH IN THESE PARTICULAR CASES THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO HAVE IT PRIVATETIZED. IF THEY PULL THAT OUT AND ARE USING PART OF THAT PROPERTY AS A BOAT AND RV STORAGE FACILITY.

ONCE THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND THE BUILDING MATERIALS, ETC., ARE GONE, WOULD THEY THEN BE REQUIRED TO PUT THE PRIVACY FENCING UP TO ENCLOSE THAT STORAGE?

>> IN THE CURRENT REGULATIONS, IF THEY DID THE BOAT AND RV STORAGE, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PUT IT UP.

>> I'M SAYING THE CHANGE WE ARE MAKING FOR INDUSTRIAL.

ARE YOU FOLLOWING ME? >> I AM A LITTLE BIT.

I THINK IT GOES DEEPER THAN THAT.

A LOT OF BOAT STORAGE THAT WE DO SITS ON COMMERCIAL LAND USE.

THIS IS SITTING ON INDUSTRIAL LAND USE.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. >> THIS WOULD NOT APPLY TO ANY OF THE ZONED COMMERCIAL. THIS IS STRICTLY FOR INDUSTRIAL ZONED PROPERTY, THE WAY ALL THE CONTIGUOUSUOUS PROPERTIES ARE ZONED THE SAME. I WANT TO MAKE SURE AS LONG AS IT STAYS INDUSTRIAL, THAT IS THE WAY IT WOULD BE.

IF THEY CHANGE SOMETHING ABOUT THAT --

>> FOR INSTANCE THE PROJECT MR. OTTO REFERRED TO OFF 218

WOULD REQUIRE THE SCREENING. >> YES.

THERE IS COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL IN THE AREA.

>> RIGHT. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE? ANY QUESTIONS?

I DON'T THINK I HEARD A MOTION. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO

APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS STATE AYE.

OPPOSED? NONE OPPOSED.

JUST A COMMENT. AFTER THIS DISCUSSION, MAYBE AT SOME POINT -- I KNOW YOU GUYS WILL BE SHORT FOR A WHILE.

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THAT IS FOR A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.

I JUST MENTIONED THAT WHILE WE HAVE EVERYBODY HERE.

IF YOU GO TO AN INDUSTRIAL AREA, DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT UGLY ROADSIDES. MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, ITEM

[3.  Public Hearing To Consider Removing The Conditional Use Of Solar Farms from AG Zoning District]

STAFF IS PROPOSING TO REMOVE THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR DUE PUBLIC NOTICE THAT MAYBE AFFECTED. COULD YOU ESSENTIALLY BE ON AG PROPERTY IN THE RURAL AREA. YOU WOULD JUST HAVE TO REZONE.

WE ARE TAKING IT OUT OF THE CONDITION.

WHEN SOMEONE APPLIES THEY COME INTO STAFF AND WE BLESS IT, BOOM, YOU HAVE ONE OF THESE BIG HUGE SOLAR FARMS AND CODIFYING IT WHERE YOU HAVE T DO A ZONING CHANGE IN ORDER TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. WE ALSO IN THE ORDINANCE WE DID ADD LANGUAGE THAT WOULD PROTECT ANY -- WE ONLY HAVE ONE.

PROTECT THE ONE WE HAVE CURRENTLY.

ANYTHING FROM 2012 TO PRESENT, IF ADOPTED, WOULD BE OKAY.

>> ARE THERE ANY UNDER CONSIDERATION? HAS ANYONE APPLIED FOR A SOLAR FARM?

>> ONLY ONE. >> IN ADDITION TO THE ONE THAT

EXISTS THIS. >> NO.

>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTION? I JUST HAD -- I WILL SAVE IT FOR AFTER.

I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK ON THE SOLAR FARMS ISSUE? NO? I SEE NONE.

I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I WANT TO ASK, I DID LOOK THIS UP.

I SEE IT'S A CONDITION USE IN PS2.

I PRINTED IT OUT AND FORGOT TO BRING IT WITH ME.

MOST OF THE OTHER USES IN PS2 DON'T SEEM TO ONEROUS.

ALWAYS MY CONCERN IS SOMEBODY COMES IN WITH A PLAN, GETS IT REZONED, AND THEN SAY, I CHANGED MY MINDS, NOW WE HAVE OPENED UP THAT PARCEL TO OTHER DEVELOPMENT.

WHERE IF WE KEPT IT AG, IT'S AG. >> THE USES THAT ARE PRIME MINISTERED WITHIN THE PS2 DISTRICT INCLUDE CLUBS, LODGES, PRIVATE PARKS, COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION BUILDINGS.

THOSE TYPE OF USES, WHEN YOU GO TO ZONE 300 ACHE TORIES -- ACRS TO PS2. THIS CONDITION HAS TO DO WITH BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS AND SEPARATION, SETBACKS, THOSE KIND

OF THINGS. >> WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD USE. IT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE OF THEM COME IN. I KNOW WE ARE THINKING OF THIS RIGHT NOW IN A COMMERCIAL SCALE. LIKE THE ONE P.L. IS PUTTING IN.

I GUESS IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW, OFF 17 DOWN SOUTH IN THE COUNTY. WE DON'T HAVE -- THERE IS NOTHING IN HERE ABOUT A RESTRICTION IN THE SIZE OF THE PARCEL. I COULD COME IN, SOMEONE COULD COME IN WITH A FIVE ACRE PARCEL AND SAY I WANT TO PUT A SMALL SOLAR FARM ON HERE. THE ZONING IS GRANTED AS PS2.

THEN THEY TURN AROUND AND GO, THIS IS A GREAT PLACE FOR A SHOOTING RANGE. I'LL PUT THAT IN.

THAT'S MY CONCERN. ARE WE REALLY MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE KIND OF THINGS HAPPENING.

BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A SIZE REQUIREMENT FOR A SOLAR FARM.

I FOLLOW YOUR LOGIC. IT'S PERFECT.

BECAUSE YOU ARE THINKING COMMERCIAL, FPL, COUPLE OF HUNDRED ACRE SITE. BUT THERE IS NOTHING IN HERE

THAT WILL RESTRICT IT TO THAT. >> I FAILED TO POINT OUT, TO, THE PS2 ZONING DESERT ALLOWS FOR UTILITIES, PRIVATE UTILITIES.

SO, FOR INSTANCE, YOU GUYS TOOK BACK GOVERNOR'S PARK WHERE CC HAD TO COME IN AND REZEN FOR A COUPLE OF PLACE -- REZONE FOR A COUPLE OF PLACES. IF THE ELECTRIC NEEDS A SUB STATION, IT'S PS2. IT'S A UTILITY AND WE KEPT IT ALONG THE LINES GOING WITH THE UTILITIES.

>> I WILL POINTS IT OUT, IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD WATCH OUT

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>> IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, TOO, FROM THE INDUSTRY PERSPECTIVE, THESE THINGS ARE MARRIED TO CERTAIN LOCATIONS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY HAVE TO DISTRIBUTE THE ENERGY.

YOU WILL BE CLOSE TO SOME DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM IN ORDER TO

GET THE POWER. >> YOU KNOW ME, I'M ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT THESE ODD THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN THAT WE DON'T ALWAYS ANTICIPATE. ARE THERE ANY OTHER --

>> I MAKE A MOTION. >> DY THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> RIGHT. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

>> MARY WILL SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR STATE AYE. OPPOSED? NO OPPOSED. WITH THAT, WE HAVE OLD

[Old Business/New Business]

>> I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD AND I'M HAPPY WITH THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.

I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. THANK YOU.

WE DO HAVE THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING.

[Public Comment]

MR. OTTO. >> YES, JAMES OTTO, 2904 THROUGH 2910, HIGHWAY 21. I AGREE THE MINUTES ARE LOOKING A LOT BETTER. HOPEFULLY THING WILL CONTINUE TO GET BETTER. THE BCC, WE TALKED ABOUT FOOTBALLS A LOT. IT'S JUST FOR ADULT ENTERTAINMENT WHEN YOU ARE ABUSING KIDS.

I WOULD LIKE TO YOU ASK EVERYBODY, HOW CAN YOU WEAR A MASK AND PLAY FLAG FOOTBALL OR TACKLE FOOTBALL? HOW ARE WE DOING THIS IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS RUNNING OUR KIDS INTO EACH OTHER WHEN WE ARE TRYING TO GET THEM TO WEAR MASKS? IT'S ABSOLUTELY INSANE.

THE SUPERINTENDENT, I GUESS, EARLIER SAID IS HE IS CROSSING HIS FINGERS THAT NOBODY COMES IN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

IS THAT THE KIND OF SUPERINTENDENT WE WANT?

I VOTED FOR EDISON DAVIS IN 202- >> THE SCHOOL BOARD IS NOT PART

OF THIS. >> YES, SIR, YES, SIR, YES, SIR.

IT'S PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU.

THE THEATER THAT YOU GUYS HAD IN HERE.

I WENT TO THAT MEETING. MAYBE THEY COULD OPEN THAT LIKE AN AUTO PARTS STORE OR FOR THE KIDS FOR SCHOOLING.

THIS GENTLEMEN HERE CAN TELL YOU THERE IS NO WAY THEY CAN SOCIAL DISTANCE IN THE SCHOOLS THAT THEY'VE GOT.

THAT'S NOT WHAT SCHOOLS ARE BUILT FOR, TO SOCIAL DISTANCE KIDS. SO ON THAT THEATER THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH, MAYBE TURN THAT INTO A SCHOOL RIGHT THERE.

THEN ON NO. 2, THE WOOD FENCING THAT THE GENTLEMEN --

>> WOOD FENCING IS AWESOME. THAT STUFF LOOKS GREAT.

IT'S EXPENSIVE. HE DOESN'T WANT TO PUT IT UP.

BUT I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT CHANGING THAT FOR THE INDUSTRIAL, WHATEVER. IF WE ARE GOING TO H HAVE IT -- HAVE A FENCE SO IT LOOKS BETTER. FOR THE HOLIDAYS, COME O FOLKS, DON'T LIE TO YOUR KIDS ABOUT THIJSES YEAR ROUND AND EXPECT THEM TO LISTEN TO YOU WHEN THEY GET TO BE TEENAGERS.

YOU MESS WITH YOUR KIDS WHEN YOU CAN.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING. THANKSGIVING IS COMING UP AND EVERYTHING. TOOTH FAIRY AND ALL THAT STUFF.

DON'T LIE TO YOUR KIDS AND THEN EXPECT THEM TO LISTEN TO YOU.

PLAIN AND SIMPLE. DON'T RUN YOUR KIDS INTO EACH OTHER IN FOOTBALL. THEN EXPECT THEM NOT TO CREA%-ÚG OTHER KIDS AND THEN THEY ARE SHOOTING UP THE SCHOOLS AND STUFF AND YOU WONDER WHY. IT'S CHILD ABUSE WITH FOOTBALL.

CHUB OF FOOTBALL NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM K THROUGH 12.

>> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? WHAT IS OUR NEXT MEETING DATE? DOES ANYBODY KNOW? FIRST TUESDAY IN DECEMBER. DECEMBER 1ST, HUH? ALL RIGHT, SO OUR NEXT MEETING IS DECEMBER 1ST.

GOOD LUCK IN YOUR RETIREMENT. SEND US A CARD OR SOMETHING.

I'M AT THE GRAND CANYON, WHEREVER YOU ARE.

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>> VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, THEN, I HOPE SUBSIDY OKAY. IT WAS A LITTLE IMPR IMPROMPTU.

WE'LL SEE Y

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