Sep 08, 2020 BCC Agenda

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GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

WE'RE ABOUT TO START THIS COUNTY COMMISSIONER MEETING.

FOR THE 8TH OF SEPTEMBER. WE WILL HAVE AN INVOCATION BY COMMISSIONER BOLLA FOLLOWED BY OUR GUEST WHO WILL GIVE THE PLEDGE PLEDGE TO THE AMERICAN FLAG.

PLEDGE ** I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. "HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG; I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.." PLEASE BOY YOUR HEADS. GOD PLEASE GIVE US YOUR WISDOM TO KNOW YOUR WILL AND THE COURAGE TO CARRY IT OUT.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MSS RETIRED FROM THE UNITED STATES ARMY. AND DID SEVERAL TOURS OVER IN A PLACE WE AFFECTIONATELY CALL THE SANDBOX AND SHE HAS BEEN A COUNTY EMPLOYEE SINCE 2017 WORKING FOR MR. MILTON TOWNS OVER AT SOLID WASTE. DOES HE TREAT YOU GOOD.

THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> THAT IS WHAT I KNEW YOU WOULD SAY.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS. >> YES.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> GO ARMY. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO

SAY. >> I THINK YOU SAID IT ALL AND WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING TO BE WITH US.

>> THANK YOU. >> AND WE HAVE ASSERT OF RECOGNITION PRESENTED TO YOU BY MR. TOWNS.

[CALL TO ORDER]

AND THE FIRST ITEM IS THE ROLL CALL.

NOT GOING TO DO A ROLL CALL BECAUSE VISUALLY AND VOCALLY ALL FIVE COMMISSIONERS ARE HERE TODAY.

SO WITH THAT WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. ROLENS FOR A MOMENT IN

[A MOMENT IN HISTORY]

HISTORY? >> SO ON THIS DAY IN HISTORY NIXON WAS PART ONLY BY PRESIDENT FORD.

NIXON RESIGNED AND PRESIDENT FORD FELT IT WAS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTRY TO PARDON NIXON OF ANY CRIMES AND MOVE ON FOR THE COUNTRY SO THAT IN MYS WORDS THE NATIONAL NIGHTMARE WAS OVER. AND THEN I GUESS YOU ALSO HAVE

ONE TOO. >> I SHARED WITH THE COMMISSIONER ROLENS A FOLLOWUP. TODAY IN 1921 THE FIRST MISS AMERICA WAS CROWNED SO, THAT IS PRETTY CLOSE TO 100 YEARS AND HER NAME WAS MARGARET GOREMAN FROM WASHINGTON, D.C.

AS I MENTIONED TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS THAT IS PROBABLY THE LAST POSITIVE THING TO COME OUT OF WASHINGTON SINCE THEN.

BUT HOPEFULLY THINGS WILL GET BETTER.

[PET ADOPTIONS]

PET ADOPTIONS. >> THAT'S ME.

>> OUR FIRST DOG IS DUNDEE. NEUTERED MAIL AUSTRALIAN SHEPHERD MIX. 9 YEARS OLD.

WEIGHS 50 POUNDS. HE LOVES PEOPLE AND OTHER DOGS.

HE KNOWS BASIC COMMANDS AND IS HOUSE TRAINED.

WE RECOMMEND NO SMALL CHILDREN. DUNDEE -- OUR NEXT DOG IS FREDERICK. NEUTERED MIX.

HOUND MIX. 8 YEARS OLD.

WEIGHS AROUND 50 POUNDS. HE HAS NOT MET OTHER DOGS AT THE SHELTER BUT SEEMS FRIENDLY WHEN WALKING PAST THEM.

WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO A MEET AND GREET WITH FREDERICK AND YOUR DOG TO SEE IF THEY ARE A MATCH.

HE IS A FOSTERED TO ADOPT BECAUSE HE CAME WITH A BROKEN LEG THAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY TREATING.

AND NOW WE HAVE OUR FIRST CAT IS BIG BURT.

NEUTERED MALE DOMESTIC SHORT HAIR.

7 YEARS OLD. HE LOVES TO LOUNGE AROUND AND SNUGGLE. HE IS STILL A LITTLE SHY BUT A COMPLETE LOVE BUG. HE IS UP-TO-DATE ON VACCINES AND

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IS MICROCHIPPED. >> AND OUR LAST -- IS CANDY CORN. 6 YEARS OLD.

HE IS NOT A YOUNG KITTEN CANDY CORN WOULD LIKE A HOME WITH PLENTY OF TOYS AND FAMILY MEMBERS TO PLAY WITH HIM.

UP-TO-DATE ON VACCINES AND MICRO CHIPPED.

E-MAIL US OR YOU CAN CALL THEM (904)269-7342 AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN FOSTERING KITTENS E-MAIL THEM AT CLAY FOSTERS@CLAYKT GOVERNOR.COM.

>> BEAUTIFUL. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

SO THEY PASS. DOWN TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

MS. HEATHER HUFFMAN WHO'S A REGULAR ATTENDEE AT OUR MEETINGS. SHE IS A CLAY COUNTY DIRECTOR OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT. DID I GET THAT RIGHT, HEATHER?

>> CLOSE ENOUGH. THAT IS GOOD.

SO GOOD AFTERNOON. HAPPY SEPTEMBER.

AGAIN WE WANT TO GIVE THE LATEST UPDATE ON COVID.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE YOU CAN ASK ME ANY QUESTIONS.

WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF CLEAN UPDATE A.

I KNOW I WROTE THAT IN THE REPORT.

WE HAD ONE LAB THAT REPORTED CASES TO US I THINK IT WAS AUGUST 30TH. AND IT CREATED SOME DUPLICATES SO WE HAVE HAD TO GO THROUGH CASE-BY-CASE AND AS YOU GO BACK TO THE 30TH WE'RE DOWN TO 65 AND WE WERE AT 133 OR SOMETHING.

ON THE 31ST WAS A QUEST DATA DUMP.

IT ONLY AFFECTED SEVEN CASES. THE NUMBER SHOULD BE 58 NOT 65.

MEDIAN AGE IS 44 BUT FOR THE LAST TWO WEEKS IT WAS 47.9 SO A LITTLE BIT OF AN UP TICK. I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING IS WE WERE ABOUT TWO WEEKS INTO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT REOPENING SO I WENT IN AND LOOKED AT THE PEDIATRIC CASES.

5-18 -- WE'VE HAD 39 IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS.

SO, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THAT AND MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT SEEING A LARGE UP TICK. THAT HAS NO REPUTATION THAT THOSE KIDS ARE ACTUALLY IN THE BRICK AND MORTAR OR HOMESCHOOLED. AGAIN LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES REPRESENT OVER 50% OF THE DEATHS WE'VE HAD AND 83% OF OUR DEATHS HAVE COME FROM 65 YEARS AND OLDER.

POSITIVITY RATE IN THE STATE CONTINUES TO BE ON A DOWNWARD TRENDS. WE'RE AT 6.72%.

LAST TIME WE WERE IN THE 7S SO WE'RE DOWN TRENDING ON THE POSITIVITY RATE AND THEN LASTLY IS EMERGENCY ROOM DEPARTMENT AND YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPTICK BUT RELATING THAT TO HOSPITAL BEDS WE'RE STILL SEEING A DOWNWARD TREND IN INPATIENT CARE FOR COVID. EVEN THOUGH WE'RE SEEING PEOPLE REPORTING SIGNS WE'RE NOT SEEING AN UNPARTICULAR IN THE HOSPITAL PATIENT BEDS SO, THAT IS IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT DATA.

LASTLY WE'RE STARTING TO WORK ON MASS VACCINATION PLANS AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AS WE'RE I BELIEVE WE HAVE FOUR FARM EXE--PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES TT ARE IN PHASE III.

THE CDC HAS PROVIDED GUIDANCE TO BE READY BY NOVEMBER 1ST.

THAT IS THE EARLIEST. SO WE HAVE HAD A MEETING LOCALLY AND I SIT ON THE STATEWIDE WORK GROUP FOR DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH LOOKING AT HOW WE WOULD DO THOSE PLANS NOT ONLY AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AND OPERATIONALLY BUT HOW WOULD THOSE THINGS BE MANAGED AS FAR AS HOW DO WE ORDER THEM AND HOW DO WE DO THE INVENTORY CONTROL AND MANAGE THEM REFRIGERATION FREEZER VERSUS COLD CHAIN. HOW DO WE MIX THEM AND THE DATA ENTRY AND MANAGE THAT. SO THERE IS A LOT OF MOVING PARTS. I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THOSE THINGS ARE STARTING TO ROLL SO WE CAN BE PREPARED WHEN

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>> QUICK QUESTION. WITH THAT -- WOULD IT BE A VOLUNTARY THING AND WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE CVS AND WALLGREENS

HAVING IT ALSO? >> THERE ARE TWO PROGRAMS OUT THERE THAT ARE FEDERAL VACCINE PROGRAMS. ONE IS VACCINES FOR CHILDREN AND ONE IS FOR ADULTS.

YOU HAVE TO REGISTER TO BE A PROVIDER.

YOU HAVE TO HAVEY, PROCESSES, HOW YOU'RE GOING TO MANAGE THEM.

THERE ARE SOME PLACES WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES PRIVATE PHYSICIAN OFFICES, HOSPITAL, THE FQHCS ARE ALREADY ON THOSE PROGRAMS. THEY WILL REGISTER AND BECOME COVID VACCINATORS ALSO AND BE ABLE TO ORDER THOSE PRODUCTS ALSO.

PROBABLY DOING BECAUSE THE VACCINATIONS WILL RAMP UP AS THE PRODUCTION LINES GET GOOD AND GOING AND THEN WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO CLOSED PODS MEANING PROBABLY FIRST FOR FIRST RESPONDERS. WHATEVER THE PRIORITY GROUPS ARE. USUALLY FIRST RESPONDERS ARE IN THAT BECAUSE WE WANT TO PROTECT THOSE WHO TREAT THE OTHERS AND THEN YOU GO DOWN THE LINE FROM THERE BASED ON THE CDC GUIDANCE.

>> ANY CASE HOW THIS WILL BE PAID FOR?

>> THEY ARE FUNDED THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

WE DON'T PAY FOR THOSE VACCINATIONS.

WHEN THE VACCINATION COMES IT WILL COME WITH SOME OF THE ANCILLARY EQUIPMENT THAT IS NEEDED WHICH MEANS A SMALL AMOUNT OF PPE AND THE SYRINGES. WE'LL HAVE TO BUY THE COTTON

BALLS AND BAND-AIDS. >> BUT THE VACCINE I WAS CONCERNED WHEN I HEARD THERE WERE ALL OF THESE PRIVATE DRUG COMPANIES DEVELOPING THIS STUFF THEY WILL HAVE TO GET

REIMBURSED. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL. BUT AT OUR LEVEL IF I'M A CURRENT PROVIDER WE DON'T PAY FOR THOSE VACCINES.

SO WE PROVIDE THEM BASED TO UNDER INSURANCE OR UNINSURED INDIVIDUALS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU, HEATHER. >> THANK YOU, GUYS SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MATT --

YOU'VE GOT A SHOW AND TELL. >> M -- MATT HANSKECT.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY I PUT IN A WORK REQUEST WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON THEIR ON-LINE REPORTED THING ON JUNE 8TH AND I HAVE TYPICALLY HAD WONDERFUL STELLAR HELP FROM THEM ANY TIME I SUBMIT ANYTHING. WHEN I SUBMITTED THIS ONE IT WAS FOR SOMETHING I THOUGHT WAS A NO-BRAINER AND IT'S ABOUT A STORM DRAIN THAT IS A 31-INCH INSIDE DIAMETER PIPE WHICH IS THAT BIG. I CAN CRAWL INTO THAT PIPE.

IT'S IN A BIG DITCH AND THAT RUNS UNDERSTAND THE WATER AND GOES TO THE PRIVATE CANAL THAT FLOWS INTO THE BLACK CREEK.

MY CONCERN IS I'VE SEEN CHILDREN PLAYING IN THE DITCH AND CLIMBING IN THIS PIPE AND I JUST SUGGESTED I PUT ON MY THING AND I LATER WENT TO THE PUBLIC WORKS IN PERSON TO SAY MAYBE MY WORDING WAS WRONG BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF YOU COULD PUT SOME OF KIND OF GRATING IN FRONT OF THE PIPE TO SEE KIDS AND GARBAGE AND BALLS FROM GOING STRAIGHT INTO THE PIPE.

THEY TOLD ME THAT WELL, I TOLD THEM IT WAS A BAD CHOICE AND I CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA OF JUST THREE -- 2001 AND A HALF INCH PIPES D -- IF YOU DROVE THREE PIPES EQUAL SPACE THAT WOULD KEEP MOST KIDS AND GARBAGE OUT OF THERE AND WITH THE PIPES BEING ROUND IT WOULD NOT CAUSE A BIG BACK UP OF DEBRIS BECAUSE

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POTENTIAL KID GOING IN AND GETTING HURT.

POTENTIAL FLOODING. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WITH A THAT OUT. AT ONE TIME IN THE FOUR TIMES I WENT TO PUBLIC WORKS IN PERSON I FINALLY GOT TO TALK TO MR. TODD AND I SHOWED HIM THIS PLAN AND I REFERRED TO A PICTURE THAT IS RIGHT IN THEIR RECEPTION OFFICE OF THE DRAINAGES ON THE SIDE OF 17 WHERE THERE ARE HORIZONTAL BAR ACROSS THE CULVERS WHERE THE RECEPTIONIST TOLD ME THAT IS THE STATE AND THE STATE DOES THAT AND WE DON'T. IT WAS LIKE OKAY.

DECIDED RIGHT THEN AND THERE THAT THIS IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

SO WHEN MR. TODD TOLD ME THE THING ABOUT IT COULD CAUSE FLOODING. APPARENTLY YOU HAVE NOT BEEN WORRIED ABOUT THE FLOODING BECAUSE FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS THERE HAS BEEN A BLOCKAGE UP FRONT OF WHERE THIS PIPE IS THAT IS UNINHABITED AND I SHOWED HIM THE VIDEO OF THAT BLOCKAGE BLOCKING THE WATER FROM GETTING TO THE PIPE AND THE NEXT DAY THEY CAME OUT WITH A GRATER AND CLEARED IT OUT SO IT WOULD FLOW.

THE LAST TIME I WENT THERE WAS TWO WEEKS -- SEPTEMBER 1ST AND THE RECEPTIONIST TOOK MY NAME.

I GOT A CALL FROM HIM AND HE SAID HE WAS OUT THERE AND TOOK PICTURES OF IT AND SUBMITTED IT TO THE COUNTY ENGINEER AND THE ENGINEER TOLD HIM NO. WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT FOR POTENTIAL FLOODING. I JUST WANTED TO WASH MY HANDS OF IT AND SAY I THINK THAT IS PRETTY SILLY AND I THINK SOMETHING CAN BE DONE AND I WILL BE GLAD TO BE A WITNESS FOR ANY PROSECUTION IF SOMEBODY DOES GET HURT.

>> SOMETHING ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT.

>> IT DIDN'T DO ME EITHER. >> I'VE SEEN SIMILAR SITUATIONS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DECIDE WHAT GETS A GRATE AND WHAT DOESN'T GET A GRATE. DALE, ARE YOU HERE?

>> YES, SIR. >> CAN YOU SHED SOME LIGHT ON

THIS. >> STEP UP TO THE MICROPHONE IF YOU WOULD BROTHER. LET'S GET SOME MODULATION ON

THIS. >> THE MITERED INTERSECTIONS THERE ARE TWO THINGS. THEY ARE NOT THERE TO KEEP CHILDREN OUT. THEY ARE THERE TO KEEP TIRES OUT. IT'S A PROTECIVE SLOPE FOR WHEN SOMEBODY GOES OFF A HIGH-SPEED ROPE THAT THEY DON'T HIT A VERTICAL HEAD WALL. SO YOU PUT THOSE MITERED END SECTIONS ON SIDE DRAINS THAT RUN PARALLEL WITH THE ROAD.

THAT FIRST PIPE IS UP HIGH ENOUGH TO ALLOW THE TRASH TO GO THROUGH. A HORIZONTAL PIPE.

A VERTICAL PIPE WILL CAPTURE THE TRASH.

WE'VE GOT CULVERTS LIKE THIS ALL OVER THE COUNTY.

WE TYPICALLY DO NOT PUT GRATING IN FRONT OF OUR PIPES AND HAS NOT BEEN A PROBLEM. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY PROBLEMS. YOU CAN ALWAYS HAVE A CHILD THAT COULD GO IN IT.

I CRAWL IN DRAIN PIPES ALL OVER JACKSONVILLE.

THE PIPES THAT HE IS REFERRING TO ARE HORIZONTAL TO KEEP CAR

TIRES OUT. >> AS A NORMAL RULE --

>> NOT ON A VERTICAL CROSS DRAIN.

ON HIGHER SPEED ROADS WE PUT THE HORIZONTAL PIPES.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU, DALE.

MATT, ANY FOLLOW-UP AND WE'LL LET YOU FINISH SPEAKING?

>> NO. I JUST THINK IT'S KIND OF SILLY.

HONESTLY. THERE WAS A TREE THAT WAS IN FRONT OF THIS DRAIN DURING HURRICANE IRMA THAT I ENDED UP PULLING OUT LATER AFTER THE STORM.

AND THE TREE WAS MUCH BIGGER IN DIAMETER AND TOOK UP MORE SPACE THAN THESE THREE STEEL PIPES WOULD BLOCK THAT PIPE AND NOBODY FLOODED OUT THERE. SO I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT

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IT'S A BARE DIRT DITCH. THAT ACTUALLY CAME OUT WHEN THEY CLEANED THE OTHER STUFF AND SPRAYED IT WITH HERBICIDE.

WHEN THE CREEK IS FLOWING THAT IS PUTTING THE DIRT AND SENTIMENT INTO THE CANAL ALONG WITH THE GARBAGE THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT. I JUST IN MY CONSCIOUS I HAD TO

COME SAY SOMETHING TO YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN. >> DALE AND I WILL BE IN MYS NEIGHBORHOOD ON THURSDAY AND WE'LL GO TAKE A LOOK AT THE

PIPE. >> ARE YOU AVAILABLE THURSDAY TO

GIVE THEM A BETTER EXPLANATION? >> YES, SIR.

>> 1400-2:00. >> SORRY 1430.

>> 2:30. >> I LIKE YOUR PROP THERE.

OKAY. WE HAVE I THINK ONE HOLDING.

LET ME GUESS MR. OTTO. YOU'RE ON, MR. OTTO.

MR. OTTO, ARE YOU WITH US? >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YES. >> OKAY.

YES, SIR.

LAST GUY NEEDS TO BE ON THE AGENDA THERE IS A LOT OF BACKFEED. HE SOUNDS LIKE HE NEEDED TO GO ON THE AGENDA BUT HE IS DEFINITELY READY -- AMEN ON THIS GUY TALKING PROSECUTION.

I'VE BEEN THERE 16 YEARS TRYING TO GET ILLEGAL TRAFFIC STOPPED ON HIGHWAY 21. I CANNOT GET IT TAKEN CARE OF.

HOPEFULLY WITH THE NEW SHERIFF AND THE NEW BOARD COMING UP THAT WILL BE A CHANGE THERE. BUT THE MAIN ISSUE FOR THE COUNTY IS THE ROADS, THE LIGHTING OF THE ROADS.

I APPRECIATE THE BIKE TRAILS. WE NEED TO KEEP GOING MORE ON THAT. WE SPENT ALL OF THAT MONEY TO GET PEOPLE TOO COME AND THEY COULDN'T EVEN GET A BICYCLE.

-- WHERE ARE WE SPENDING ALL OF THAT MONEY? GET RID OF THOSE GUYS. BACK UP ON THE WATER.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT FEES THAT HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM.

BUT I'D RATHER TALK ABOUT THE CHILDREN RUNNING INTO EACH OTHER IN FOOTBALL. OUR-SCHOOLS ARE NEAR FULL.

YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING A FOOD TRUCK AND -$45,000.

IT'S TAXPAYER MONEY AND DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH IT.

THE GROWTH AND LET THE NEW BOARD COME ON.

YOU'VE PUSHED THIS $129 MILLION LOAN.

WE NEED TO STOP APPROVING ALL OF THIS STUFF.

THE ONE THING THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE HOMELESSNESS.

WE NEED THE HOMELESSNESS AT THE FAIRGROUNDS.

THOSE THREE BUILDINGS AND THE LIBRARIES NEED TO BE TURNED INTO SCHOOLS FOR THESE KIDS. WE SHOULD PUSH FOR PEOPLE TO STAY HOME AND TAKE CARE OF THEIR KIDS IF THEY ARE NOT GOING TO WORK. NOT TRYING TO FILL THE SCHOOLS LIKE WE ARE. BUT NUMBER ONE REASON I'M COMING TO THESE BOARD MEETINGS IS BECAUSE OF THE ILLEGAL ROAD AND

-- >> MR. FIVE MINUTES IS UP SIR.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. >> YES, SIR.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? I DO HAVE ONE I NEEDED TO PASS ON FROM CHRIS THE SUPERVISOR OF

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IT'S TWO PAGES WITH ONE OF THE PAGES FRONT AND BACK.

HE ASKED EVERYONE TO PLEASE MAKE USE OF THE SAMPLE BALLOT SENT OUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AHEAD OF TIME SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE IN THERE FOR. YOU DON'T WANT THAT TO BE THE FIRST TIME YOU LOOKING AT THE BALLOT WHEN YOU WALK IN AND GET YOUR BALLOT. IF EVERYONE WOULD DO THAT IT WOULD CUT THE VOTING TIME FOR STANDING IN LINE ROUGHLY IN HALF. SO IF WE COULD TAKE MR. CAMPED BLISSES WORD TO HARD HEART AND DO OUR HOMEWORK AND GET OUT AND VOTE AND GET OUT AND GET IN AND GO TO BREAKFAST.

HE DIDN'T MENTION BREAKFAST BUT I -- MOVING ON -- PUBLIC COMMENTS IS NOW CLOSED. WE'LL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AG

[CONSENT AGENDA]

AGENDA. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ALL OPPOSED. SO DONE.

[10.  Mobility Fee Workshop]

>> VERY WELL READ. I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE JENNETE BURKES. AND SHE IS GOING TO TAKE OVER CONTROL AND SHE WILL BE GIVING AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE STAND ON THE MOBILITY PLAN. SO JENNETE I'LL TAKE THE FIRST FEW SLIDES AND HAND IT OVER TO YOU.

>> SOUNDS GOOD. >> INTRODUCTION.

JENNETE IS WITH GANNETT FLEMMING.

HER AND JONATHAN THE SUBCONTRACTOR HAS BEEN WORKING HARD TO GETTING THE DATA. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM.

ONE EVERY WEEK TRYING TO GET THEM AS MUCH DATA AS WE CAN.

WE DON'T HAVE A FINISHED PRODUCT YET.

AND AT THE END OF THIS BASED ON THE INPUT THAT SHE PROVIDES AND YOU PROVIDE SHE CERTAINLY CAN BE HERE SEPTEMBER 22ND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW-UP ON THIS BEFORE THE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS E END IF HAD YOU WOULD LIKE THAT OR NOT.

AGAIN THE BACKGROUND DATE A STAFF AND ENGINEERING PLANNING, EVERYONE HAS PROVIDED JENNETE A LOT OF INFORMATION ON ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS AND TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS AND SHE WILL GO OVER WHAT THE INPUT WAS THERE. AS PART OF THE CONTRACT WE REQUIRE THE APPLICANT OR THE CONSULTANT TO CONSULT WITH THE FOUR MUNICIPALITIES TO SEE IF THE THEY WERE INTERESTED IN JOINING IN. IT WOULD BE CHEAPER FOR THEM TO HIRE SOMEBODY OFF THE STREET. I THINK THEY ARE TALKING ORANGE PARK IS NOT INTERESTED. WE HAVE A MOBILITY FEE IN PLACE BUT AS YOU SAW WE MOVED THAT AND NOVEMBER FIRST WILL BE THE ADOPTION OF THE MOBILITY FEE. SOMETHING NEW AND DIFFERENT.

EVALUATION OF MOBILITY FEE DISTRICTS WITH IMPACT FEE WE HAVE ONE LARGE DISTRICT AND ONE SMALLER DISTRICT SO TWO DISTRICTS TO MAKE A MOBILITY FEE EFFECTIVE WE'VE DIVIDED THE COUNTY UP INTO SIX DISTRICTS. I THINK WE FINALIZED THEM BUT WE'LL GO OVER THEM. IT WILL LEAD TO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS REQUIRED BY FLORIDA STATUTES.

THE ONE THING WE WANT TO EMPHASIZE WE HAVE A MEETING FRIDAY WITH THE STAFF TO GO OVER EVERYTHING.

THIS IS OUR SECOND NO THIRD OF THOSE.

THE STAKEHOLDERS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE PROVIDE FOR DEVELOPERS, AGENCIES AND CONSULTANTS. WE'VE HAD TWO OF THOSE.

SO THE LAST I WANT IS FOR JOE DEVELOPER TO SAY WE -- WE DIDNT KNOW. WE CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE ANYONE

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OUR NEXT STAKEHOLDER MEETING AND ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED IT'S SEPTEMBER 24 THE AND THE PUBLIC HEARINGS HAPPEN IN OCTOBER AND WITH THAT I WILL SIT DOWN AND HAVE JENNETE TAKE OVER.

>> THANK YOU. AS ED SAID WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY -- I HEAR AN ECHO. WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CLAY COUNTY STAFF TO OBTAIN ALL OF THE DIFFERENT INPUT DATA AND THIS DATA HAS TO DO WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS WITH WHAT TYPES OF DIFFERENT MODEL DATA BECAUSE THIS IS A MULTI-MODEL PLAN SO WE'VE BEEN OBTAINING INFORMATION WE ARE USING THE PLANNING MODEL.

THAT WAS DEVELOPED BY THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION. AND THEN WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT LAND USE DEVELOPMENT ANALYSIS. SINCE THIS IS A MULTI-MODEL PLAN WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT REGULATIONS AND LANGUAGES THAT CLAY COUNTY IS CURRENTLY USING. TO SEE IF THEY COULD BE MORE LENIENT TOWARD THE DIFFERENT MODES TO ACCOMMODATE PEDESTRIANS AND BIKES. SO THE MOBILITY FEE CALCULATION PROCESS HAS SEVERAL MAIN STEPS AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON TODAY. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE YOU THROUGH THESE MAJOR STEPS AS ED SAID. NONE OF THE NUMBER THAT'S REPRESENTING TODAY ARE FINAL. WE'RE STILL ANALYZING THE DIFFERENT NUMBERS AND DIFFERENT WAYS TO USE THE NUMBERS AND WORKING CLOSELY WITH ED AND THE OTHER STAFF MEMBERS WITHIN CLAY COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER METHODOLOGY WE CHOOSE IS THE ONE THAT WORKS BEST FOR CLAY COUNTY SCHOOLS.

AND THEN THE BASE CALCULATION FOR THE MOBILITY FEE AND DEVELOPING THE -- CREDITS. WE HAVE NOT STARTED BECAUSE WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF CALCULATING THIS BASE MOBILITY FEE. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY NOW WITH THE STAFF AND WITH STAKEHOLDERS TO IDENTIFY THESE NEW DISTRICTS. ED SAID THERE WERE TWO AND NOW WE HAVE SIX DISTRICTS SO THE COUNTY IS DIVIDED INTO THESE SIX AREAS AND EACH WILL HAVE THEIR OWN MOBILITY FEE.

AND THAT PROVIDES CLAY COUNTY WITH FLEXIBILITY AS TO HOW THEY WANT TO SET UP THIS FEE STRUCTURE.

SO THESE AREAS WERE DEVELOPED WITH A LOT OF INPUT FROM THE CLAY COUNTY STAFF. THAT IS OUR CURRENT DISTRICT AND THEN AS I SAID WE USE THE NORTHEAST REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION MODEL. THAT MODEL SIMULATES THE ROADWAY NETWORK THAT EXISTS IN CLAY COUNTY.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT A 20-45 NETWORK SO WE'VE ADDED QUITE A FEW ROADS. TOLL ROADS BUT ALSO COUNTY ROADS. WE WORKED CLOSELY W -- WITH ED D DALE SMITH. IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT INPUT INTO THE MOBILITY FIFA CALCULATIONS AND ALSO THE AVERAGE TRIP LIFE FOR EACH OF THE DISTRICTS. WE USE THIS MODEL TO DEVELOP THESE PARTICULAR INPUT VALUES. SO HERE YOU SEE AN EXAMPLE AS I SAID THESE NUMBERS ARE NOT FINAL.

THESE ARE OUR INITIAL RUNS. WHERE WE USE THE MODEL TO CALCULATE WHAT THE VEHICLE MILES CURRENTLY ARE AND WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING THEM TO BE. BASED THE FORECAST THE SOCIOECONOMIC DATA FORECAST FOR THE YEAR 2045.

SO WHAT SEE HERE IS A TABLE THAT SHOWS YOU HOW MUCH OF THAT VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED ARE ON THE STATE ROAD SYSTEM VERSUS ON THE COUNTY SYSTEM. AND THIS IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW BASED ON THE WAY THAT YOU CALCULATE THE FEE.

YOU HAVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF CALCULATING.

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THESE NUMBERS CHANGE IN THE FUTURE YEAR AS YOU CAN SEE.

THERE IS A LOT OF COUNTY ROADS ADDED AND THEY ARE ADDED WHERE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO OCCUR. SO A LOT OF THE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED ARE SHIFTING TOWARD THE COUNTY SYSTEM SO THE PERCENTAGE BECOMES 52/48 BUT THESE ARE JUST PRELIMINARY NUMBERS OF THE IDEA OF WHAT WE LOOK AT. WE CAN SEE THAT THERE IS AN INCREASE IN 1,000,809,000772 VEHICLES TRAVELED ON THE COUNTY SYSTEM AND THAT IS A NUMBER THAT YOU CAN USE IN YOUR MOBILITY FEE CALCULATION. SO HERE THE OTHER IMPORTANT INPUT IN THE PROCESS IS THE PROJECTS AND THE COST OF THESE PROJECTS AND THESE PROJECTS WERE CLOSELY COORDINATED WITH CLAY CONFIDENT STAFF AND THESE ARE THE ROADWAY PROJECTS LISTS AND COSTS CURRENTLY THAT WE INCLUDED IN THE MOBILITY FEE CALCULATION.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT THE PROJECTS ARE INCLUDED IN THE LIST ARE THE ONES THAT CAN USE MOBILITY FEES.

OR OBTAIN CREDITS OF THOSE PROJECTS.

THIS IS A MAP CREATED BY CLAY COUNTY AND WE'VE GOT PERMISSION TO USE THIS MAP AND IT SHOWS WHERE THESE PROJECTS ARE THAT THE COUNTY HAS IDENTIFIED TO BE INCLUDED IN TO THE MOBILITY FEE PROCESS. SO SINCE THIS IS A MULTI-MDEL PROCESS WE'VE IDENTIFIED DIFFERENT BICYCLE FACILITIES.

THERE ARE SOME -- IDENTIFIED IN CLAY COUNTY THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY INCLUDING IN THE LIST BUT ON TOP OF THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SET MONEY APART SO THAT WE CAN USE THE MOBILITY FEE TO IMPLEMENT BIKE FACILITIES OR PEDESTRIANS FACILITIES WITHIN THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS. THESE ARE PLACEHOLDERS THAT YOU SEE. FOR MOST OF THE DISTRICTS WE ASSUME 10 MILES OF BIKE/PEDESTRIANS FACILITIES.

SO THESE ARE ESTIMATES AND PLACE HOLDERS FOR AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES IN THOSE DISTRICTS THIS.

IS A SUMMARY OF THE DIFFERENT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DIFFERENT MODES. SO THE ONE THAT WE ADDED HERE IS A TRANSIT MODE. WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING HOW TO IMPROVE -- TRANSIT USE IN CLAY COUNTY SO ONE OF THE IDEAS WE HAVE IS TO FOCUS ON MOBILITY HUBS TO CREATE AREAS WHERE TRANSIT SERVICE CAN BE PROVIDED AND WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO TO ACCESS THEIR TRANSIT SERVICE. SO WE'RE -- THIS IS JUST PLACEHOLDER. THESE NUMBERS WILL BE REFINED BUT THE IDEA IS THAT WE HAVE MONEY IN THE MOBILITY FEE AND THE ABILITY TO USE MOBILITY FEES TO CREATE MOBILITY HUBS WITHIN THE COUNTY. WE USED VEHICLE MILES ON THE COUNTY ROADS. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA HOW WE CALCULATE THIS FEE. TO COME UP WITH A DOLLAR VALUE OF PER VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED. SO THIS CALCULATION SHOWS YOU THAT BASED ON THESE NUMBERS ON THESE PROJECTS AND ON THE LATEST NUMBERS WE PULLED FROM THE MODEL BUT THAT VALUE IS $233 PER VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED. SO THIS IS THE BASIC FEE CALCULATION. THERE IS A LOT OF OTHER INPUTS BUT THE OTHER INPUTS ARE MORE STANDARD.

THE ONES THAT WE SHOWED YOU ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO WHAT CLAY COUNTY WANTS TO INCLUDE IN THE CALCULATIONS.

AND SO, THAT IS WHAT WE FOCUSED ON IN THIS PRESENTATION.

BUT SO THE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED THAT I JUST SHOWED YOU THE $233 WAS BASESSED ON THOSE CALCULATIONS THAT WE DISCUSSED.

THE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED AND THE COST OF ALL OF THE PROJECTION. IN ADDITION WE USED THE TRIP RATES WHICH COMES FROM THE ITE MANUAL.

THESE ARE STANDARD TRIP RATES THAT ARE USED NATIONWIDE FOR

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PEOPLE DON'T MAKE A TRIP JUST TO GO TO THE GAS STATION.

THEY TYPICALLY DO THAT WHILE THEY ARE ON THEIR WAY FROM "A" TO "B" SO THERE IS A REDUCTION OF PERCENTAGES OF NEW TRIPS DEPENDING ON THE LAND USE AND THEN THE COUNTY ROAD FACTOR HAS TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT WE INCLUDE VEHICLE ROADS TRAVELED ON THE STATE ROADS AND IN THIS EXAMPLE WE DID NOT INCLUDE THE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED ON THE STATE ROAD.

AND IF WE DON'T DO THAT WE WANT TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TRIPS THE PERCENTAGE ACCORDING TO NUMBER OF VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED ON THOSE GROUNDS AND THEN THERE IS A DOUBLE COUNTING FACTOR AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE OR AGAIN AND DESTINATION IS WITHIN THE SAME DISTRICT WE DON'T WANT TO DOUBLE CLOUD SO WE DIVIDED BY TWO. SO TODAY'S CALCULATION IS A MULTIPLICATION OF THESE VARIABLES AND WE START WORKING WITH CREDITS AND WE'RE NOT AT THAT PROCESS YET BUT CREDITS CAN BE DEVELOPED IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND DEPENDING ON WHAT THE GOALS ARE FOR THE COUNTY. AND WITH THAT I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE

OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> ONE QUESTION. THERE IS ALSO A FEE THAT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM APPLIES. THIS ONE IS NOT DEPENDENT OR INTERLOCKED WITH THAT AT ALL. SO THE FACT THAT WE GO TO A MOBILITY FEE AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WILL STILL BE ASSESSING

THE OLD FEES. >> YEAH.

THIS WILL HAVE NO AFFECT ON THE SCHOOLS.

>> CONSIDERABLE EFFORT TO FIGURE OUT WHEN THEY WOULD PAY THIS.

ARE WE STILL KIND OF THINKING AT THE SAME TIME WHEN WE TURN ON

THE ELECTRICITY. >> THAT WOULD BE A DECISION YOU GUYS WOULD MAKE. I WOULD ASSUME YOU COULD KEEP THAT AS WITH THE IMPACT FEE. I DON'T SEE THAT BEING A

PROBLEM. >> MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD.

>> QUESTION. EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THE NOT THE ROADS BUT THE BIKES AND TRANSIT AND THOSE FEES ARE THOSE FEES THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO COLLECT AS PART OF THIS OR WOULD WE ABLE TO PUT THE MONIES INTO ROAD FEES OR IS IT AUTOMATICALLY DIVIDED.

>> THAT IS INTERESTING THAT YOU WOULD ASK THAT.

BECAUSE I ASKED JENNETE THAT TODAY.

I'LL LET JENNETE ANSWER THAT BUT HER ANSWER WAS NO.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DESIGNATE EACH PROJECT.

YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S ON THE LIST.

JENNETE. >> THE MONEY THAT IS COLLECTED WITHIN A DISTRICT GOING INTO ONE POT.

AND THEN WITHIN THAT DISTRICT WE WOULD HAVE A LIST OF PROJECTS IDENTIFIED AND THEN MAYBE IS THE AUTHORITY OF THE COUNTY AND THE DEVELOPER AND EVERYBODY ELSE TO DECIDE WHICH PROJECT YOU WANT TO PRIORITIZE WITHIN THE DISTRICT AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHICH MODE IT IS. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS WHATEVER PROJECT YOU WANT TO BUILD USING THESE MOBILITY FEES THAT PROJECT NEEDS TO BE ON THE LIST AND NEEDS TO BE PART OF THIS COST CALCULATION. SO, THAT IS THE IMPORTANT THING.

>> SO HOW OFTEN DOES THAT LIST CHANGE?

>> I WOULD THINK THE LIST WOULDN'T CHANGE TOO OFTEN.

EVERY TIME WE DO AN UPDATE. WHAT WE DO IN A SPECIAL CASE IF WE HAVE A DEVELOPER THAT WANTED TO BUILD A ROAD -- WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A ONE GOOD CANDIDATE THEN WE GO BACK AND RECALCULATE THE FEE. I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING.

BUT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT BASED ON SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T PREDICT. ANOTHER ROAD COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE THINK THE COUNTY COMMISSION SHOULD ADD TO THE LIST. WE COULD MAKE THAT CHANGE BUT I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING TOO OFTEN.

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THEY BUILD THE PATH. THEY GET CREDIT BECAUSE WE EMPHASIZE WALKABILITY. WE HAVE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT

WE PROVIDE MORE. >> SO THE CATEGORIES THAT SHE HAD REPRESENTED IN HER PRESENTATION ARE THE ONES THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND. UNLIKE WITH IMPACT FEES YOU

COULD ADD ADDITIONAL CATEGORIES. >> YEAH.

WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO THAT POINT YES.

WHEN WE DID THE IMPACT FEE FOR COMMERCIAL WE COLLAPSED ALL OF THE CATEGORIES INTO RETAIL. RIGHT NOW WITH ALL OF THE CATEGORIES AND THEN THE BOARD WILL DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO COLLAPSE THEM. YOU'LL SEE FAST-FOOD BE HIGHER THAN WHAT YOU COULD STOMACH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO THAT WILL BE AN ISSUE THAT WE'LL DISCUSS AT THE ENDS OF THE

OCTOBER. >> YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT.

IN TERMS OF THESE FEES THIS WOULD BE FOR RESIDENTIAL AND

COMMERCIAL. >> ANY LAND USE THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE TABLE. COMMERCIAL, OFFICE.

LIGHT INDUSTRY, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.

IT WILL FOLLOW THE SAME FEE CATEGORY AS WE HAVE NOW WITH THE IMPACT FEE BUT IT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU DECIDE TO COLLAPSE IT.

>> CAN YOU COMMENT ON THE ZONES. HOW DOES THAT WORK? IF WE COLLECT THE IMPACT FEE WITHIN LAKE ASBURY DO WE SPEND

IT IN LAKE ASBURY ZONE? >> THAT IS HOW IT WORKS.

BECAUSE LAKE ASBURY IS WHERE MOST OF THE NEED IS SO WE'RE NOT CHARGING PEOPLE IN KEYSTONE HEIGHTS TO PAY FOR IMPROVEMENT IN LAKE ASBURY. TO DO A MOBILITY FEE YOU HAVE TO DIVIDE YOUR COUNTY INTO ZONES BECAUSE EACH ZONE IS DIFFERENT AND I THINK YOU'LL SEE THERE WILL BE SIX TABLES AND YOU'LL SEE A DIFFERENT MOBILITY FEE FOR EACH ZONE.

>> WE HAVE SIX TABLES AND FIVE COMMISSIONERS.

>> YEP. IT GETS TURF K.

-- CONSCIOUS. >> LIKE KEYSTONE IT WOULD BE A LOWER MOBILITY FEE THAN IT WOULD BE SOMEWHERE CLOSER TO LAKE ASBURY OR ONE OF THE OTHER HIGH DEMAND.

>> I DON'T WANT TO RUIN THE ENDING BUT YES.

WE ANTICIPATE THE FEE TO BE DIFFERENT IN EACH ZONE.

THE LOW GROWTH ZONES I SUSPECT THE FEE WILL BE LOWER.

THE ONE THING THAT THEY SAY IS AREN'T YOU CONCERN WITH PUSHING DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE LAND USE AND ZONING. WE CAN CONTROL WHAT GOES OUT THERE AND IF IT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT TO SEE OUT THERE WE DON'T

CHANGE THE LA -- LAND USE. >> I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT NEXT.

YOU CAN DIRECT WHERE YOU WANT YOUR GROWTH TO HAPPEN AT LEAST THAT IS WHAT I WAS TOLD. HOW DO YOU DO THAT WITH THIS

KIND OF A PLAN. >> IT DIRECTS WHAT KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE YOU WANT TO HAVE. WE THINK GROWTH IS GOING TO OCCUR REGARDLESS AND AS WE SAW WITH LAKE ASBURY THERE WAS ALWAYS THAT SPECIAL FEE. BUT WHEN IT WAS ADOPTED IN 2006 IT WAS ANTICIPATED THAT LAKE ASBURY WOULD PAY A SPECIAL FEE BUT WE COULDN'T DO IT LEGALLY. WITH THE MOBILITY FEE YEAH WE'LL PAY MORE BUT THAT IS WHERE GROWTH IS GOING TO OCCUR.

YOU'LL SEE GROWTH BUT THAT IS WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS

ARE. >> BASICALLY A USER FEE.

THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO PAY THE MOST ARE THE ONES WHO ARE DOING THE MOST GROWTH AND THAT IS WHERE THE MONEY WILL BE

SPENT. >> THE PEOPLE THAT WILL BENEFIT THE MOST FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ARE THE ONES WHO

PAY THE MOST. >> AND WHEN WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT SPANS MULTIPLE DISTRICTS HOW DOES THAT WORK? WE PRO RATE THE -- THE TRANSIT SERVICE THAT RUNS DOWN THE BOULEVARD FROM ONE DISTRICT TO ANOTHER?

>> WE DISCUSSED THAT AND WITH PROVIDING OPERATIONS FOR TRANSIT THE MOBILITY FEE CAN'T BE USED. YOU CANNOT SAY THAT IS NEW.

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WE HAVE NOT FIGURED THAT IN THERE.

THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THE TRANSIT HUBS.

TO MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE. SO IF YOU HAVE A HUB WHERE YOU CAN JUMP ON LIKE THE FEEDER SYSTEMS. THAT IS WHAT YOU CAN USE THE IMPACT FEE BECAUSE THE HUBS ARE GOING TO BE GENERATED BY THE GROWTH THAT IS NECESSARY SO WE THINK THAT IS THE BEST USE OF THE MOBILITY FEE.

>> LOOKS PRETTY EXCITING FROM WHERE I'M SITTING.

>> WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE COUNTY TO -- 2045 PLAN.

WE THINK THE COUNTY IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT IN 2045 SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE AHEAD OF CURVE.

>> DO YOU WANT TO SEE A SEPTEMBER 22ND WORKSHOP OR

WAIT. >> BOARD'S PLEASURE.

>> I THINK WE'LL HAVE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS IF THAT

HELPS. >> WE'LL HAVE THEM BY DISTRICT.

BECAUSE WHAT WE SHOWED YOU TODAY IS JUST ONE NUMBER THAT JUST TO FOCUS ON THE PROCESS. BUT OUR NEXT STEP IS TO CALCULATE ALL OF THESE NUMBERS BY THE 6 DISTRICTS.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. >> LET'S MAKE IT FOR TWO WEEKS.

>> WE'LL SCHEDULE ONE SEPTEMBER 22ND.

>> THANK YOU. >> DO WE HAVE ANY PRELIMINARY IDEA HOW THIS IS GOING TO COST WISE LOOK IN RELATION TO THE

PRESENT FEE? >> WELL, -- I HATE TO SAY WE DO BECAUSE WE HAD A LITTLE DOT FLY IN THE OINTMENT.

WHICH I THINK WE SAT FACT RALLY ADDRESSED.

IT'S PRETTY CLOSE. OUR ONLY CONCERN IS THAT THE EMPLOYMENT OFFICE FEES WILL BE HIGHER AND WE HAVE THE PROBLEM WITH THE IMPACT FEE AS WELL. BUT THE NUMBERS ARE WHAT THEY ARE AND WE CAN CERTAINLY PLAY WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS AND PLAY WITH THAT BUT WE THINK THE IMPROVEMENT ESPECIALLY WE'VE PROVIDED WAS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE BOARD DECIDED TO GO THIS ROUTE. AND MAYBE IN TWO WEEKS YOU WILL

BE SEEING SOME ACTUAL NUMBERS. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, ED. LET'S GO TO ITEM 11 WHICH FISTS

[11.  Overview of Growth in Clay County - 2020 -2040.]

>> ED HAS BEEN DOING A ROAD SHOW ON A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS AND ONE WAS SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU WERE REQUESTING SO WE JUST STOLE SOME

OF HIS STUFF. >> WONDERFUL.

NO, SIR. IT WASN'T TOO BAD AT ALL.

SO WE'LL GET STARTED. WE HAVE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING QUICK. WE HAVE DIDN'T WANT TO BE LABOR THE POINT BUT WE HAVE A FEW SLIDES THAT WILL TELL THE STORY AND THEN IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS LET US KNOW.

SO THESE ARE YOUR PLANNING DISTRICTS.

AND THERE ARE SEVEN OF THOSE. A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE NOBILITY DISTRICT. THE PLANNING DISTRICTS THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR SOME TIME. THEY ARE SIMILAR EXCEPT UP IN THE NORTHEASTERN CORNER. WE'VE GOT ANOTHER DISTRICT.

WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION SO THERE ARE YOUR SEVEN DISTRICT, YOU'LL SEE STARTING BACK IN 2010 AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN 2040 WHICH GOES ALONG WITH WHAT ED WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH THE MOBILITY FEE.

IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR MIDDLEBERG CLAY HILL DISTRICT WILL REMAIN THE SAME. THE DOCTOR'S INLET DISTRICT IS AND RIDGE WOOD WILL SEE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF GROWTH.

ORANGE PARK NOT SO MUCH. FLEMMING NOT SO MUCH.

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THAT IS A LOT. AND THEN KEYSTONE HEIGHTS IS JUST A LITTLE. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION -- THAT MAP AND THESE PLANNING DISTRICTS SHOW THAT.

WE WILL SAY BACK IN 2003 THEY ANTICIPATED THIS TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. THEY KNEW THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY WAS ON THE MAP AND THAT IS WHY THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN WAS DONE STARTING BACK IN 2003-2005.

>> THE THREE DISTRICTS THAT WE EXPECT THE GROWTH IN NO SURPRISE. THE PURPLE DISTRICT HAS ALREADY EXPERIENCED THE MOST GROWTH TO DATE.

OBVIOUSLY LAKE ASBURY AND THE GREEN DISTRICT.

SO IF YOU TAKE THAT -- AMAZING HOW PLANNING WORKS AND GO TO THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY. IT FOLLOWS THE EXACT SAME LINE.

OBVIOUSLY GOING TO OCCUR WHERE THE INTERCHANGES ARE, THOSE ARE THE THREE PLANNING DISTRICTS AND THAT IS WHERE THE GROWTH IS GOING TO OCCUR. FLEMMING ISLAND IS PRETTY MUCH BUILT OUT. THERE WILL BE SOME GROWTH.

BUT THAT IS A PLANNING TOOL THAT WE USED.

VERY LITTLE THOUGH. KEYSTONE AND MIDDLEBERG ARE STILL PRETTY RURAL AND WILL REMAIN THAT WAY.

A LITTLE GROWTH BUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT THERE TO

SERVE IT. >> AND AGAIN -- IF CHARISSE WANTS TO ADD SOMETHING THIS IS OUR CURRENT PROJECT LIST.

THIS IS A MAP THAT SHOWS THE PROJECTS RIGHT NOW EITHER APPROVED OR UNDERWAY. DIRT IS BEING MOVED RIGHT NOW OR THEY ARE GOING THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENTAL REVIEW AND WAITING FOR APPROVAL. YOU SEE WHERE THE GROWTH IS GOING TO OCCUR. WHEN CHARISSE TALKED ABOUT THE WINNER THAT IS THE WINNER. HERE IS JUST AN IDEA.

THESE ARE JUST PROJECTS THAT ARE APPROVED OR UNDER REVIEW IN THE LAKE ASBURY PLANNING DISTRICT. THAT IS ALMOST I THINK 3,000 DWELLING UNITS. THESE ARE ONES THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR SOON TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

SO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE MOBILITY FEE WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT IS WHERE THE NEEDS ARE AND WHERE THE CHARGES WILL BE HIGHER BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE THE COSTS ARE. WHERE MOST OF THE BONDING PROJECTS IN LAKE ASBURY SO I THINK THAT -- DO YOU WANT TO ADD

ANYTHING? >> IT'S KIND OF QUICK AND DIRTY BUT GOING ALONG WITH THE MOBILITY FEE DISCUSSIONS AND ED HAS BEEN HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS AND HAD FOLKS ASKING ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN SO HE HAD ALREADY PUT MOST OF THIS TOGETHER BUT THE ONE SLIDE REALLY SAYS IT ALL.

>> IS THAT SLIDE AVAILABLE? >> I'D LIKE TO GET A COPY OF

JUST THE SLIDE. >> JUST THE NUMBER SLIDE.

>> YEAH. THE ANSWER.

>> HE IS CALL VIN AND I'M HOBBS BY THE WAY.

JUST LIKE BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THE RAILROAD WOULD COME THROUGH

AND TOWNS WOULD POP-UP. >> WAS THERE ANY THOUGHT AS TO THE MOBILITY FEE DISTRICTS BEING THE SAME AS THE PLANNING

DISTRICT? >> THEY ARE PRETTY CLOSE.

THE REASON THEY ARE NOT IS BECAUSE SOME PROJECTS WE DETERMINED PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE BEST.

IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK WE HAD TO PLAY WITH THEM A LITTLE.

YOU'LL SEE THEY FOLLOW FAIRLY CLOSELY.

THIS PART OF LAKE ASBURY THERE IS NOTHING THERE.

THAT IS ALL AGRICULTURE. THAT SHOULD NOT BE LINKED IN.

BUT THEY FOLLOW FAIRLY CLOSE. >> I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

>> I DIDN'T EVEN USE THIS WHEN WE DEVELOPED THIS.

THAT IS HOW FAR IT CAME OUT. >> DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR

QUESTION? >> IT DOES MINE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ARE THOSE SLIDES AVAILABLE IF WE WANT TO COME TO YOUR OFFICE?

>> YOU GOT IT. >> THANK YOU.

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WE'RE DOWN TO -- ITEM 22. >> ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE THE

[22.  5:05 TIME CERTAIN or as soon thereafter as can be heard - First Public Hearing - Adoption of Tentative Millage and Budget for FY 20/21]

LEADED IN THIS? >> YES, MILES AN HOUR CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU. -- MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> THERE IS A FORMAL PORTION WHICH I'LL GET TO HERE IN A MOMENT BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY WHAT I PROVIDED WERE THREE SIMPLE THINGS AND I'VE GOT TWO SLIDES. AS Y'ALL KNOW ELECTION SEASON IS UPON US. WE HAVE A NEW CONSTITUTIONAL WE HAVE A NEW SHERIFF AND THAT SHERIFF IS ALSO IN THE ROOM JUST TO POINT THAT OUT AND SHERIFF COOK IS IN THE BACK HERE.

I PROBABLY MET WITH HER ALMOST HALF A DOZEN TIMES AT THIS POINTED TO TALK ABOUT THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET SPECIFICALLY FUND 102-140. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE WITH REGARDS TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET WHICH I BRIEFED YOU ALL EARLIER ON. AND THE LETTER WHICH WE WORKED HAND IN HAND WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

I SAW ALESE EARLIER. THE-- THERE SHE IS.

AND AGAIN SPECIFICALLY 102-140. DOWN TO $835,000.

YEAR-OVER-YEAR OR A 1.35 INCREASE.

THAT REMAINING FOR THE BUDGET WAS THE BIGGEST HOOP TO GET THROUGH. AND JUST PENDING ANY QUESTIONS OR MR. CHAIRMAN OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO THE SHERIFF SHE

IS HERE. >> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.

>> WE'LL GET TO THE SHERIFF. SHE WON'T LEAVE WITHOUT BEING

QUESTIONED I'M SURE. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW REFRESHING IT IS TO SEE US WORKING TOGETHER IN CLAY COUNTY AND SHERIFF COOK WE KNOW YOU STEPPED IN TO A BIG LIST AND WE'RE ALL ON YOUR TEAM AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND APPRECIATE THE WAY YOU'VE COOPERATED ALREADY TO HELP OUT. THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON NUMBERS?

>> AND UNDER SHERIFF IS ALSO HERE SITTING TO THE RIGHT OF THE

SHERIFF ALSO. >> WE'LL KILL THE SUSPENSION.

Y'ALL COME ON UP AT THIS TIME AND WE'LL FIND SOMETHING TO

GRILL YOU ABOUT I'M SURE. >> GOOD EVENING.

>> YES, MA'AM. LET ME JUST START OUT BY SAYING THIS. CAN YOU DO THE JOB WITH THE

NUMBER THAT'S YOU REQUESTED? >> YES, SIR.

>> AND YOU CAN GO ON FROM THERE. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD OR

EXPAND ON? >> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING UNLESS YOU WANT SPECIFICS ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING OUR MONEY

ON. >> I KNOW A GOOD PORTION IS FOR

JAIL MAINTENANCE. >> YES, SIR.

WE NEED TO DO SOME STUFF AT THE JAIL.

WE ALSO HAVE THE COMMITMENT FOR THE FIVE DEPUTIES FOR THE COPS GRANTS. WE NEED TO FUND THAT AND WE NEED TO ADD THE TWO RNS IN THE JAIL TO MAKE SURE THE FOLKS ARE KEPT SAFE. AND PHASE II OF THE STEP PLAN AND THEN LIKE YOU SAID INMATE MEDICAL IS THE OTHER ONE.

>> I'LL OPEN THIS UP TO MY COLLEAGUES OR THE COUNTY MANAGER AS WE GO THROUGH THIS. THIS A GOOD SURPRISE I'LL SAY THAT. THE COUNTY MANAGER BROUGHT THESE NUMBERS INTO SOMETHING THAT HE COULD WORK WITH.

>> TO THE CHAIR I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE COUNTY MANAGER FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK TOGETHER ON THIS.

WE'RE ALL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE NUMBERS AND WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE THIS WORK. SO THANK YOU.

>> I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH US.

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SEASON. >> YES, SIR.

>> I APPRECIATE YOUR -- YOU WERE OVER HERE LOOKING INTO WHAT THE BUDGET WAS WHAT THE NUMBERS WERE TRYING THE FIGURE OUT ON YOUR OWN AS TO WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND ONLY TOO HAPPY TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE DOING AND MY ONLY THOUGHT WOULD BE IS TO CONTINUE WORKING ON PROJECTS AND NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET AS WE MOVE FORWARD SO ON MAY 5ST AT 5:00 WE DON'T GET THE BOMBSHELL THAT WE'VE HAD THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND THAT ONLY HELPS WITH BIGGER PROJECTS WHETHER BODY CAMS OR SOME KIND OF ADDITIONAL CAPITAL OR IMPROVEMENT. IT MAKES OUR JOB EASIER KNOWING THAT THIS IS WHAT WE'VE GOT TO SET ASIDE AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE NOT HAD IN THE PAST AND I'M NOT POINTING FINGERS BUT MOVING FORWARD WE DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE YOU INVOLVED IN THE DISCUSSIONS AND HOWARD HAS ALREADY TALKED TO YOU ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS ON THE PLATE. WE APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS

ALREADY. >> ABSOLUTELY COMMITTED TO DOING THAT. WORKING WITH YOU.

7. >> JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU AGAIN WITH WORKING AND LOOKING FORWARD FOR THE NEXT MONTH AND A HALF WORKING WITH YOU AND AS A CITIZEN GLAD TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD AND IT WAS AN UNFORTUNATE OCCURRENCES TO SEE THE COLLABORATION AND COORDINATION BETWEEN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ENTITIES WITH YOUR MOST RECENT PRESS CONFERENCE AND CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL KEEP CLAY COUNTY SAFE.

>> THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR.

>> HAVING KNOWN YOU AS LONG AS I HAVE I KNOW WHERE YOUR HEART IS.

IT'S WITH THE DEPUTIES WORKING THE BEAT EVERY DAY AND I KNOW MONEY IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE. LET'S TALK ABOUT SALARIES AND BE BLUNT. I KNOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEM A SALARY INCREASE. AND AS WELL AS WE WOULD.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE HOPEFULLY IF OUR ECONOMY STAYS IN THE VEIN THAT IT IS NOW MAYBE THAT WILL BE OUR NEXT BIG CHALLENGE IS TO LOOK AT THAT SALARY PACKAGE FOR YOU.

>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> RICK, YOU'VE GOT ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THIS, BROTHER? ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD? ANY PREVIOUS OR COMING

ATTRACTIONS? >> NO.

SIR. I APPRECIATE MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE Y'ALL BEING HERE.

WELL THAT WAS PLEASANT. >> AGAIN MR. CHAIRMAN I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE SHERIFF AND THE UNDER SHERIFF AND SUPPORTING US AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THIS NEW FISCAL YEAR. SHIFTING OVER TO THE SLIDES.

>> WE'RE WAITING ON PUBLIC COMMENT.

CAN YOU BRING THAT UP, NICK? THE SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE SUMMARY OF THE MILITARY FROM ADD VALOREM.

THE 8.101. NOT THAT SLIDE.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

AND THIS SHOULD ALSO BE SEEN. I CHECKED EARLIER THE GOING OUT AND NICK CAN CONFIRM THAT SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THIS.

THE MILITARY CALCULATIONS ARE BEFORE YOU.

EVERYBODY -- ALL OF THE RESIDENTS WITHIN CLAY COUNTY RECEIVED THEIR TRIM NOTICES AND WITH THE MILL RATE OF 8.101.

WHEN YOU CALCULATE IT OUT AS LISTED IT IS $96.1 MILLION.

WHEN YOU GO DOWN TO THE CURRENT YEARS CALCULATION 8.101.

IT'S BEEN 8.101 SINCE 2014. THE AMOUNT THIS YEAR WAS $89.5 MILLION. SO ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR THAT REVENUE STREAM BACK I BELIEVE IT WAS MAY/JUNE TIME FRAME WAS $6.5 MILLION. AND IF YOU COULD SLIDE DOWN A LITTLE BIT -- AGAIN THE MATH IS 6.575,$140.

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SO YEAR-OVER-YEAR REALLY THE ONLY INCREASE THAT WE WILL SEE IN REVENUES WILL BE $1.5 MILLION COMING FROM ADD VALOREM IN THE OTHER 12 REVENUE STREAMS. WE'RE FORTUNATE TO RECEIVE MONIES FROM CARS ACT AS AN EXAMPLE.

AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT AND ANY OTHER ECONOMIC STIMULUS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL BE PROVIDING.

THAT IS THE FIRST SLIDE I WANTED TO PRESENT AND MAKE SURE THERE

WERE NO QUESTIONS. >> PENDING ANY QUESTIONS WE'LL GET TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THE NEXT SLIDE HAS FROM THE BUDGET BOOK AND Y'ALL RECEIVED THE BUDGET BOOK TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT HERE. SPECIFICALLY WITH ALL OF THE FUNDS ALL 44 FUNDS AND THE POKE AS RELATED TO THEM.

SUMMARY BY FUND GROUPS. THAT IS LISTED HERE JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OR JUST A FEELING IN OVER-ALL HOW THINGS FELL OUT.

I JUST BRIEFED YOU ALL ON REVENUES AND THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUES THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT ARE LISTED THERE.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY CASH CARRY FORWARD.

BUT I BRING YOU DOWN TO THE GENERAL FUND IN TOTAL ESTIMATED REVENUES AND OTHER FINANCE SOURCES $88 MILLION.

THIS YEAR IS $85 MILLION. SO A DELTA IN THE GENERAL FUND OR INCREASE OF $3.7 MILLION. IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT SO, THAT IS ON REVENUES TOTAL. AGAIN ALL OF THOSE REVENUE STREAMS AND THEN IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE EXPENDITURES -- LISTED AT $7.6 MILLION. $75.6 MILLION EXCUSE ME AND THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR IS $68.08. DELTA OF $6.7 MILLION.

INCREASE IN THOSE EXPENDITURES. TRIED TO KEEP IT AS FLAT AS POSSIBLE. AT ABOUT 2% MARK OVER-ALL.

WITH THE SHERIFF'S LETTER WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP IT UNDER 2% INCREASE YEAR-OVER-YEAR IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS SUMMARY.

PENDING ANY QUESTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO GO INTO THE OFFICIAL

PORTION. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. OUR MISSION IS TO PROVIDE SAFETY FOR THE PUBLIC AND IF YOU LOOK ON THIS I THINK THE PUBLIC SAFETY NUMBER ARE IS A $106 MILLION AND OUR TOTAL ADD

VALOREM IS $89 MILLION. >> IT'S $96 MILLION.

IT WENT UP. STILL UNDER.

>> SO STILL NOT EVEN KEEPING UP WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY REQUIREMENTS WITH OUR TAX LEVEL WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

BUT IT WOULD SORT OF MAKE SINCE TO ME THAT AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO COVER OUR MISSION WITH OUR PRIMARY INCOME WHICH IS OUR TAX

BASE ON THE REAL ESTATE. >> YES, SIR.

>> COMMISSIONER YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH REGARDS TO CONTINGENCIES, REVENUE STREAMS AND THAT DELTA IS $20 MILLION. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ADD VALOREM AND PUBLIC SAFETY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THE OFFICIAL PORTION.

THE TRIM PROCESS IS GOVERNED BY FLORIDA STATUTE AND REFERRED TO AS TRUTH IN MILLAGE. IT SETS FORTH GUIDELINES.

TWO PUBLIC HEAR HIPS, ARE REQUIRED TO ADOPT THE MILLEDGE RATE. THI THAT WAS MAILED BY THE PROPY APPRAISER'S OFFICE. THE TRIM PROCESS REQUIRES THAT THE FIRST SUBSTANTIVE ISSUE DISCUSSED SHALL BE.

PERCENTAGE OVER OF THE ROLLED BACK RATE NECESSARY TO FUND THE BUDGET AND THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH ADD VALOREM RATES ARE INCREASED.

THE FISCAL YEAR 2020-2021 RATE IS 7.8589 WHICH IS MORE THAN THE CURRENT YEAR AGO GATE ROLL BACK RATE OF 7.4459 BY 5.55%.

THE PROPOSE PEDESTRIAN OPERATING MILLAGE RATES ARE BROKEN DOWN AS FOLLOWS.

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LAKE ASBURY ZERO AND MTSU3.0 MILLS.

REVENUES INCLUDING ESTIMATED CASH CARRIED FORWARD HAVE BEEN UPDATED TO REFLECT THE CURRENT AVAILABLE INFORMATION.

THE CLAY COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MUST APPROVE THREE SEPARATE RESOLUTIONS AS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THE FIRST RESOLUTION ADOPTION THE TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATE FOR 2020-2021. THE SECOND RESOLUTION ADOPTION -- FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020-2021. THE THIRD AND FINAL RESOLUTION -- OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES DESIGNATES CLAY COUNTY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CENTER AS THE RECIPIENT OF THE TRUST FUND FOR FY2020-2021. NOW MR. CHAIRMAN OVER TO YOU FOR

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WE'LL OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE THREE SUGGESTED RESOLUTIONS AT THIS TIME.

ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS? OKAY.

PUT MR. OTTO. >> YES, SIR.

YOU CAN HEAR ME? >> GO AHEAD, MR. OTTO.

WE CAN HEAR YOU. >> YES, SIR.

AND LOOK AT THE PRIOR MEETING ON STREAMING VIDEOS THEY CAN CHECK THAT OUT. ARE WE STILL NOT -- SCHOOLS UNLESS THOSE AREAS ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THEM.

WE DON'T NEED TO PUT THOSE ON THE REST OF THE COUNTY.

THE SIX AREAS -- THOSE ARE GOOD. THE $129 MILLION THE ONE POT OF MONEY THERE ARE FIVE DISTRICTS BUT THEY ARE SPENDING MOST OF IT IN THE TWO DISTRICTS. THAT IS NOT RIGHT.

THE REST OF THE FOLKS DON'T NEED TO PAY FOR THAT.

WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE 218 BRIDGE.

THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED ALONG TIME AGO.

OUR OFFICERS NEED BODY CAMERAS. AND OUR -- WE NEED PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX. THAT WAY PEOPLE WITH MORE MONEY ARE PAYING A FAIRER TAX AND ALL OF THESE BOATS THAT ARE NOT GETTING TAXED. IF YOU WANT THESE BOAT RAMPS YOU'VE GOT TO PAY FOR IT AND NO TO THIS FOOTBALL K-12.

OUR-SCHOOLS ARE FULL AND IF YOU LOOK IN CLAY COUNTY THEY ARE TRYING TO FILL IT IN THE PANDEMIC.

WE NEED TO GET THE FAIRGROUNDS OPENED UP FOR THE HOMELESS FOLKS SO THAT THEY CAN GET OFF THE STREET.

THEY CAN SEE THE COUNSELING AND GET THE HELP THAT THEY NEED.

THEY'VE GOT THREE BUILDINGS THERE AND A NICE OVERHANG.

AND THEY WILL LOVE THE BATHROOMS. THE HOMELESS PEOPLE WILL LOVE THE FACILITIES.

SO I SAY YOU SPEND THE MONEY THE RIGHT WAY.

AND I THINK WE ARE STILL ON NUMBER 10.

I HOPE YOU'RE NOT COMBINING THOSE.

SIR. I STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN MY CARES

TAX MONEY. >> OKAY.

MR. OTTO YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE UP.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. ANY OTHER PERSON WANTING TO

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COME BACK TO THE BOARD FOR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.

>> GREAT TEAM EFFORT. >> I THINK HE ANSWERED ALL OF MY QUESTIONS. WE WILL BE VOTING ON THESE THREE ITEMS SEPARATELY. WE WILL NEED MOTIONS AND SECONDS ON ALL THREE. QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION? YOUR PLEASURE, FOLKS.

>> MR. CHAIR I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IF NOBODY HAS ANY

DISCUSSION. >> ITEM ONE.

A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED. SO DONE.

ITEM TWO. >> I'LL MOVE THE SECOND

RESOLUTION. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> OPPOSED.

SO DONE. ITEM THREE.

>> I'LL MOVE THE THIRD AND FINAL RESOLUTION.

>> MOTION AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES.

ONE, TWO, AND THREE ALL UNANIMOUS.

OKAY. WE NEED TO I GUESS SET A TIME A PLACE FOR OUR SECOND AND FINAL PUBLIC HEARING.

>> THAT IS CORRECT. TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 22ND.

THAT SHOULD BE 2020 AT 5:05:00 P.M. HERE AT THE BCC

MEETING ROOM. >> A MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. DONE.

DOES THAT TAKE US THROUGH THE END OF YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR?

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT IS CORRECT AND THEN I WOULD LIKE AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE THE SUMMARY STATEMENT OF THE ADOPTED TENTATIVE BUDGET AND THE NOTICE OF THE HEARING.

>> ALL SUPPORT THE PROPOSITION? >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> THAT COMPLETES OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE BUDGET

2020-2021. >> I'LL GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GO BACK TO OUR AGENDA.

[12.  Lien Reduction]

WHO'S PRESENTING THIS? >> SO MR. H H HERERA.

THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER AND HE REQUESTED AN APPROVAL AND REDUCTION. CASE CE-18-36 WHICH IS 406 WOOD SIDE DRIVE IN ORANGE PARK. MR. HERERA PURCHASED THE PROPERTY DECEMBER 19. HAD THE PROPERTY CLEANED UP BY JANUARY 28TH SO A LITTLE OVER A MONTH.

THE PROPERTY WAS ACTIVE FOR TWO DAYS FOR A VIOLATION OF AN UNSECURED NONPERMITTED ROOF. A $25 FINE.

BEGINNING AUGUST 17,2018 BY THE MAGISTRATE.

THE VIOLATION WAS CORRECTED. THERE WERE 61 DOCUMENTS AT $20 $20.THE RECOMMENDATION IS ON AUGUST 6,2020 RECOMMENDED THAT THE $13,050 LEAN BE RELOOSED. HER DECISION WAS BASESSED ON THE FACT THAT THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER WAS AWARE OF THE LIEN WHEN HE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AND WITHIN THE PACKAGE HE SUBMITTED HE ASKED FOR THE $4,000 MARK. IF YOU HAD TIME TO TAKE A PEEK AT THIS ITEM ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS CASE WAS THE FACT THAT MR. HERERA AND I WAS HOPING HE WAS HERE TODAY SO HE ACTUALLY PURCHASED IT AS HIS HOME.

[01:25:03]

HE HAD TO REDO THE WHOLE PLUMBING AND ELECTRICAL.

SO, THAT IS HIS REQUEST AND THE RECOMMENDATION SIR.

>> QUESTIONS? BOARD?

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL RECOMMENDATION.

IS THERE A SECOND? >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

WAS HE MADE AWARE THAT WE NORMALLY JUST GRANT WHATEVER OUR

COST IS? >> SO HE FILLED OUT THE DOCUMENT. I'M NOT SURE WHY HE PUT $4,000.

I LOOKED THROUGH IT. I DON'T KNOW WHY HE ASKED THAT

AMOUNT. >> IT DOESN'T SEEM FAIR AND IN MY HUMBLE OPINION THAT WE GRANT OUR ACTUAL COSTS AND IN MYS CASE HE IS NOT GOING TO MAKE MONEY ON IT.

HE IS GOING TO LIVE THERE. THAT KIND OF CONCERNED ME.

JUST EQUITY. >> I'M GOOD WITH DOING STAFF

COSTS. >> $4,000 IS COVERING STAFF

COSTS AND COUNTY COST. >> STAFF COST IS $2020.

>> WELL. I'LL AMEND MY MOTION TO MOVE APPROVAL WITH THE STAFF COSTS SO MR. HERERA WILL PAY THE COST OF

STAFF FOR THIS. >> WHICH WILL BE -- $2020.

>> AND I WILL AMEND MY SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? SO DONE. THANK YOU CHARISSE.

[13.  Lien Reduction]

>> I'VE GOT ONE MORE. JAMES AND SHARON KIRBY ARE REQUESTING AN APPROVAL. THIS IS CASE CE-19-025 WHICH IS 2753 HIDDEN WATERS DRIVE NORTH GREEN COVE SPRINGS, FLORIDA.

IT WAS ACTIVE FOR THE VIOLATION. A FINE OF 75 A DAY WAS IMPOSED BEGINNING MAY 17,2019 BY THE CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. AS OF SEPTEMBER 20,2019 THE VIOLATIONS WERE CORRECTED. THE LIEN TOTE TOOL IS $9950. DON INSPECTIONS AT $100 WHICH TOTALS $700.

CALCULATIONS ARE $1840. THE RECOMMENDATION ON ALL 6,2020 RECOMMENDED THAT THE $9550 LIEN BE REDUCED.

HER DECISION WAS BASESSED ON THE FACT THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE ABLE TO CLEAN IT UP ONCE THE FINE BEGAN IN THE MATTER OF A COUPLE OF MONTHS. AND MR. KIRBY IS HERE IF YOU

HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR HIM. >> COME ON UP, MR. KIRBY.

I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS SINCE I WAS THE ONE THAT GOT PHONE CALLS. IS IT YOUR INTENTION TO LIVE

THERE? >> WE'RE LETTING IT SIT FOR THE TIME BEING. WE DO CONSIDER RETIRING THERE.

BUT AT THE MOMENT WE LOST THE DWELLING DUE TO THE FLOOD AND IT JUST TOOK SOME TIME AND IT WAS A LOT OF MISCOMMUNICATION AND DIDN'T GET COMMUNICATION BUT ONCE WE GOT WORD AND KNEW THE SITUTION WE GOT ON TOP OF IT. BUT IT'S GOING TO STAY IN THE FAMILY. IT WON'T BE A RENTAL ANY TIME

SOON. >> AND THE OLD PICTURES OF WHAT

IT LOOKED LIKE. >> IT'S CLEAR LAND.

CUT GRASS. >> NO WEEDS.

OR WHATEVER. >> IT'S IN GOOD SHAPE.

>> SO WHY DIDN'T YOU CLEAN IT UP WHEN YOU GOT THE SUMMONS?

>> I DIDN'T GET THE NOTICES DIRECTLY.

IT TOOK ME QUITE SOME TIME BEFORE I WAS AWARE OF THE SITUATION. WHEN I GOT FULL INFORMATION I TOOK OFF WORK THAT DAY AND WENT OFF TO START THE CLEAN UP

PROCESS. >> AND WHERE WERE THE NOTICES

SENT? >> TO THE ADDRESS.

>> DID WE GET THEM BACK? WHAT IS OUR POLICY WHEN WE GET

ZERO RESPONSE? >> SO THE POLICY IS WE SEND THE

[01:30:02]

WE ALSO DO A POST ON-SITE. AND WE DID THAT AS WELL.

WE STARTED SENDING LETTERS JANUARY 8, 2019.

WE POSTED ON-SITE ON 1-16-2019. SENT ANOTHER LETTER 2-15-2019.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY INDICATION THAT NOBODY GOT THEM?

>> NO, SIR. NOT THAT I KNOW OF.

I DID NOTICE THAT YOU GUYS -- DID YOU HAVE SOME COMMUNICATION WITH THEM AFTER THAT MAY 19 MAGISTRATE HEARING?

>> THE WORD THAT I GOT SOMEBODY CALLED AND ASKED IF THEY COULD BUY THE PROPERTY AND THEY SAID IF YOU COULD SETTLE THE LIEN AND THAT WAS THE FIRST THAT I HEARD OF IT.

>> THAT IS THE STUFF THAT WAS ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S

WEBSITE. >> THIS IS KIND OF A FISHY DEAL HERE. IT DIDN'T CHANGE HANDS.

YOU JUST NEVER FOUND OUT ABOUT IT SUPPOSEDLY.

AND WE DIDN'T FOLLOW-UP TO FIND OUT IF ANYBODY WAS GETTING THE

LETTERS. >> I CAN LOOK IT UP TO SEE WHEN THE LETTERS ARE SENT AND NOT SENT BACK.

THEY ARE THE PROPERTY OWNER SO AT SOME POINT IN TIME THEY SHOULD BE CHECK ON THEIR PROPERTY.

>> THAT IS WHY WE HAVE FINES TO GET YOUR ATTENTION TO CLEAN THE STUFF UP. IF YOU DON'T CARE WHEN WHY

SHOULD WE? >> I WILL SAY THIS.

WE CARE AND THE FLOOD DESTROYED THE DWELLING AND PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE GONE FOR SOME COUNSELING AND IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT AND I WAS IN DENIAL FOR SOME TIME.

I DIDN'T SEE THE NOTICES COME TO MY ADDRESS.

I DIDN'T GO TO THE PROPERTY BECAUSE I WAS IN DENIAL.

SO, THAT IS WHERE I STAND. >> YEAH.

I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. MY QUESTION IS A SPRINGBOARD OFF OF COMMISSIONER BOLLA'S. THE PROPERTY SAT THERE FOR MONTHS AND OBVIOUSLY YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T WANT TO SEE IT BECAUSE IT WAS NASTY BUT YOU HAD TO KNOW IT WAS GETTING WORSE AND WORSE YET YOU NEVER TOOK TIME TO LOOK AT YOUR OWN PROPERTY AND SEEING THE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING HOMES.

THAT IS -- >> I DEFINITELY SHOULD HAVE SOUGHT COUNSELING TO GET THROUGH THAT.

>> OKAY. IIS THE HOME LIVABLE.

>> THERE IS NO HOME. VACANT LOT.

>> YOU TOOK THE MOBILE HOME AWAY.

>> WHAT DID THE CLEAN UP COST YOU?

>> ALMOST $7,000. ,000.

>> MR. CHAIR IN LIGHT OF THE EXPENSE THAT MR. KIRBY PUT FORTH IN CLEANING UP THE PROPERTY AND QUESTIONABLE AS TO WHETHER WE SHOULD HAVE PURSUED ANOTHER AVENUE IN TERMS OF TRYING TO GET THE INFORMATION TO HIM BY NOT HAVING GOTTEN TO HIM PERSONALLY I'M LOOKING AT HIS APPLICATION. HE INDICATED THAT HE IS REQUESTING THE LIEN TO BE REDUCED TO $750 AND THAT IS ON PAGE 8 OF THE ORDER IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT.

MY RECOMMENDATION IS IF THAT IS WHAT HE THINKS IS FAIR THAT WE

GO ALONG WITH THE $750. >> SO IS THAT A MOTION?

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION. >> WHAT WAS THE STAFF COSTS?

>> $1840. HE PUT IN APPLICATION REQUEST THAT THE LIEN BE REDUCED TO $750.

AND AGAIN SEEING THAT WE HAVE SOME QUESTION AS TO WHETHER HE GOT INCIDENT REPORTS I THINK THAT WOULD BE FAIR.

SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. >> I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

>> OKAY A MOTION AND A SECOND TO REDUCE THE CLEANING COST TO $750. IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH YOU?

>> YOU GUYS ARE THE BOSS. ALL RIGHT.

[01:35:04]

OPPOSED? AYE.

>> AND THE CHAIR WILL VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

THANK YOU, SIR. >> YOU FOLKS ARE VERY KIND.

THANK YOU. >> QUICKLY.

BEHALF OF CODE ENFORCEMENT. THEY USE THE ADDRESS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER LISTS AND IS PROVIDED AND THAT IS CONSIDERED NOTICE WHEN WE MAIL IT AND WHEN WE POST IT.

SO THE FACT THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER FAILS TO COLLECT THEIR MAIL OR GO TO THE PROPERTY IS NOT THE FAULT OF CODE ENFORCEMENT. IT COMPLIES WITH OUR

REQUIREMENT. >> I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE INDICATED THAT IT WAS A PROBLEM WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT.

I ALSO THINK THAT WE'VE HAD THIS HAPPEN HOW MANY TIMES IN THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD THAT SOMEBODY INDICATES THAT THEY HAVE NOT GOTTEN IT THAT WE NEED TO GO TO THE NTH LEVEL TO SEE IF THEY OWN ANY OTHER PROPERTIES AND THEN WE CAN TRACE THEM IN THAT FASHION. IF WE WANTED TO GO TO WHATEVER LEVEL IT IS THAT WOULD NOT BE A BAD WAY TO LOOK TO SEE IF THEY OWN SOME OTHER PROPERTY IF THEY ARE NOT RESPONDING.

>> ONCE THE LIEN TAKES EFFECT IT IMPACTS THEIR OTHER PROPERTY AS WELL. FROM A STATUTORY POLICY THAT IS

ALL THAT IS REQUIRED BY THE LAW. >> I UNDERSTAND.

SO WHEN WE PUT A LIEN ON SOMEBODY'S HOME DO WE SEND THAT IN THIS CASE DID MR. KIRBY GET A LIEN PUT ON HIS OTHER PROPERTY?

>> IT WOULD AFFECT HIS OTHER PROPERTY.

IT WOULD GO TO HIS PROPERTY. AND YOU'RE PUT ON NOTICE OF WHAT WAS RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS AND IT IS SEND TO THE ADDRESS -- THE EFFECT OF THE LIEN IS A DIFFERENT PROCESS.

>> SO HE WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED -- THIS HIDDEN WATER'S

ADDRESS. >> BUT ALSO HE DID A SEARCH ON

HIMSELF -- >> HE DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL SOMEBODY

CALLED HIM. >> WHEN WE HIRE THE COUNTY AUDITOR ABOUT INTERNSHIPS THESE KINDS OF THINGS WOULD BE A PERFECT SCENARIO WHERE WE COULD GO THROUGH AND FIND OUT CAN BY CONFIRM OR GET SOME OF THIS -- CLEANED UP AND LETTING THEM BE AWARE THAT YOU'RE GETTING FINED. IN SOME CASES PEOPLE DON'T CARE.

BUT THERE ARE PROBABLY CASES OUT THERE THAT THEY DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT. AND -- I GOT A TICKET FOR RUNNING A TOLL IN ORLANDO IN MY VEHICLE BUT THEY SENT IT TO MY HOME ADDRESS. WHILE IT WAS IN ACTIVATED FOR A YEAR. AND THOSE THINGS CAN HAPPEN.

AND I THINK AN INTERNSHIP PROGRAM WOULD BE A GOOD WAY.

>> MAYBE SECOND NOTICE WE COULD SEND IT CERTIFIED MAIL.

>> WE DO. >> EVERY WAY POSSIBLE.

>> SOMETIMES THE GREEN CARD COMES BACK AND SOMETIMES IT

DOESN'T. >> SIGNED AND NOT SIGNED.

>> EVEN IF THEY GOT IT SOMETIMES THEY WON'T SIGN IT.

>> AREN'T WE SPENDING MONEY NEEDLESSLY IF THE POST OFFICE IS NOT GOING FOR GET IT SIGNED. THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE PAYING

FOR. >> NO.

IT'S NOT. >> THAT IS WHY WE POST ON-SITE

AS WELL. >> AT THAT POINT WE SHOULD MOVE TO CONDEMN THE PROPERTY OR TAKE IT.

>> WE'VE GOT A COUPLE ON THE LIST.

>> WE'VE GOT A FINE ALREADY. >> BUT THEN YOU'VE GOT THE SAME CONCERN WITH THAT PROCESS BECAUSE IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD UNDER THE BLIGHT ORDINANCE WE WOULD PROVIDE THE SAME NOTICE AND IF THE PROPERTY OWNER DOESN'T RESPOND WITH THE PROPERTY APPRIASER OF NOTICES POSTED ON THE PROPERTY WE WOULD

JUST MOVE FORWARD. >> AND FORECLOSE THE PROPERTY.

>> AND REMOVE OF THE STRUCTURE AND PLACE ANOTHER LIEN.

>> WE'RE WORKING ON TWO CASES RIGHT NOW FOR ABATEMENT AND WE'RE TRYING TO ENSURE RIGHT NOW THAT WE CAN GET TO THE PERSON TO SERVE THEM AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> IF THE PEOPLE DON'T CARE ENOUGH TO WATCH THEIR PROPERTY AND I KNOW I GOT ONE OF THOSE ONCE ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY I OWNED AND IT WAS LIKE I PAID ATTENTION PRETTY QUICK AND GOT

[01:40:05]

WAS A MISTAKE BUT TO THINK -- >> YOU MOWED YOUR YARD ANY WAY.

>> THE PLACE NEXT TO MINE OUT IN YOUR AREA -- THEY CLEANED OUT A TRAILER AND JUST DUMPED IT AND IT WAS NOT ON MY PROPERTY BUT THEY PUT MY ADDRESS DOWN. I GOT THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION AND I WENT OUT THERE RIGHT AWAY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU COULD NOT WATCH YOUR PROPERTY FOR A YEAR.

THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. WE WANT YOU TO SEE IT AND FIX IT SO YOUR NEIGHBORS CAN ENJOY THEIR PROPERTY.

AND I THINK IF WE DON'T GET ANY SATISFACTION WITH THE FIRST NOTICE AND WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE'VE GOT A FINE GOING ON IT AND WE CANNOT REACH THEM WITH A CERTIFIED LETTER THAN WE AUTOMATICALLY GO TO THE PROCESS WHERE WE TAKE THE PROPERTY.

AND IF THEY DON'T WAKE UP THEN -- TOO BAD.

>> THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PROCESS.

>> I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BLIGHT PROCESS.

ONCE WE PUT A BRICK ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THEN WE HAVE THE RIGHT AFTER ONE MONTH TO GO AHEAD AND FORECLOSE IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T PAY. IT'S NOT STUPID.

>> WHAT CHARISSE IS REFERRING TO YES WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH FORECLOSURE BUT WE CANNOT LOCATE THE PEOPLE.

IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WE HAVE TO SERVE THEM THROUGH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THEY ARE JUST LISTED AS -- IF SOMEBODY HAS PASSED AWAY -- THE PEOPLE PROBABLY DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY OWN THIS PROPERTY AND WE CANNOT FIND THE SIBLINGS.

WE DO RESEARCH THROUGH THE OBITUARIES.

BUT IF THEY DIDN'T PROBATE THEIR ESTATE WE'RE AT A LOSS.

>> THAT IS CRAZY. >> AND ONE THING IS WE WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS BECAUSE ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WE FACE IS THE HOMESTEAD PIECE TO IT.

AND OUR COMPLAINT IS LIKE ONE OF THEM WE'VE BEEN LOOK AT TRYING TO FORECLOSE ON IS IT SHOWS HOMESTEADED.

OBVIOUSLY NOBODY HAS LIVED THERE FOR LIKE -- IT'S IN YOUR CITIESR DISTRICT AND YOU KNOW WHICH ONE I'M TALKING ABOUT.

SO WE'VE WORKED WITH THOSE GUYS. THEY HELP US DO RESEARCH AS WELL SO WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO TRY TO GET SOME OF THESE OFF THE

LIST. >> ISN'T THERE A BUREAU OF UNCLAIMED PROPERTIES LIKE IF THE STATE HAS IT WOULDN'T IT GO TO THAT? IS THERE A WAY TO COORDINATE? WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY DIDN'TLY A WILL AND IT'S JUST OUT THERE.

>> WE >> DOESN'T THAT AT SOME POINT

BECOME PROPERTY OF THE STATE. >> IF PROPERTY TAXES ARE PAID THEN THEY CAN SELL THE TAX DEED AND IT GOES OFF THE BOOKS.

AND THEN WE GET IT AND SELL IT. >> THE TAXES WERE PAID.

UP-TO-DATE? >> ON THIS ONE?

I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT IT. >> AND SECOND SOMEBODY FOUND A

NUMBER TO CALL TO PURCHASE IT. >> I HAVE A HARD TIME BELIEVING THIS WHOLE STORY BUT HEY -- IN JUST RELY TUNE CODE COMPLIANCE -- WE HAVE DON'T DO A CURSORY LOOK TO SEE IF THAT PERSON HAS

ANY OTHER PROPERTY. >> WE DO TYPICALLY BUT UNDER THE STATUTE I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE ALLOWED TO SEND IT TO ANOTHER PROPERTY BUT I'LL RESEARCH THAT. MOST OF THE TIME THAT IS NOT THE

ISSUE. >> MAYBE WHEN OUR NEW COUNTY AUDITOR BEGINS THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PROJECT.

>> OUR OLD COUNTY AUDITOR WAS GOOD.

>> LET'S MOVE ALONG. MR. BOLLA YOU'RE GOING TO BE ONE OF TWO THAT IS STILL GOING TO BE HERE NEXT YEAR.

I WANT TO YOU FIX THIS. STAY ON IT.

[14.  FY 2020/2021 Schedule of Fees and Services]

>> HELLO. YES.

SO AS THE NEW DEPARTMENT STARTS TO GET TOGETHER THIS IS ONE OF OUR FIRST PROJECTS ON GATHERING ALL OF THE FEES FOR ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS. AND I HAVE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS HERE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE WITH ANY CHANGES.

[01:45:01]

WITH LIBRARIES THEY'VE GOT A SMART SPOT THAT YOU CAN CHECK OUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE INTERNET ACCESS.

KAREN IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ENOUGH ITEMS IN HERE AS WELL.

>> I KNOW YOU'VE PROBABLY NOT HAD A LOT OF TIME TO DO RESEARCH ON THIS. BUT IS THIS PRETTY WELL IN LINE

WITH THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES? >> I BELIEVE THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE WORKED ON THAT TO CHECK ON THAT.

I KNOW DALE A -- AND CHARISE . >> THE THING THAT CAUGHT MY EYE WAS WE'RE NOW GOING TO -- IT COST $500 TO GET YOUR DOG BACK IF IT'S NOT BEEN SPAYED AND WHY DON'T WE DO THAT WITH CATS AS WELL. HE ASSURED ME THAT WHEN WE DID OUR WORKSHOP ON THE ANIMAL CONTROL STUFF THAT WE WOULD ADDRESS THAT. THAT IS ALMOST A PUNITIVE NUMBER BUT IT'S PROBABLY OKAY I WOULD THINK.

>> I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW I OVERLOOKED IT.

HOW CAN IT COST US $500 TO KEEP A DOG THAT IS NOT SPAYED VERSUS

A DOG THAT IS. >> ANIMAL SERVICES OPERATION'S MANAGER. THE ORDINANCE STATES THAT ANYONE THAT RECLAIMS THEIR DOG UNALTERED IT'S A $500 FEE.

SO WE'VE BEEN ENACTING THAT. WE HAVE A LOT OF, A LOT OF

PEOPLE JUST HAVE THEM ALTERED. >> SO IF THEY HAVE THEM ALTERED

DO THEY STILL PAY THE FEE? >> NO.

>> WE HAVE SOME OF HUNTERS THAT DO BREED THEIR HUNTING DOGS SO, ITS'S KIND OF A GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD ONE TIME.

8 THAT ENTICES THEM TO KEEP THEIR DOGS PUT AWAY BECAUSE THE SECOND TIME THEY WON'T HAVE A CHOICE.

IT WILL BE SPAYED AND NEUTERED AND THAT FINE ON TOP OF IT.

AND WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY ISSUES. THE FIRST TIME THEY GET FINED.

WE'VE BEEN LENIENT WITH THEM. IF THEY ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS FROM THE PAST THEN WE MAKE IT STICK.

BEFORE WE ENACTED THIS IF WE LOOK IN THE SYSTEM AND THE DOG

HAS BEEN THERE SEVERAL TIMES -- >> SO THEY PICK THE DOG UP AND

-- >> WE DO IT.

THEY'VE GOT THE OPTION. AND THEY HAVE TO BRING THE PROOF

BACK WITHIN 30 DAYS. >> FOR US IT'S A $100 SPAY AND

NEUTER FEE AND CHIPPED. >> IMAGINE YOU HAVE A CHAMPIONSHIP GREYHOUND DOG AND YOU'RE RAISING THIS THING AND YOU LOSE IT ONCE AND THAT HAPPENS.

I'VE LOST ONE. >> SAME THING WITH A PUREBRED.

>> WE'RE NOT THOSE PEOPLE. WE LOOK AT IT.

>> THERE IS AN APPEALS. >> DEFINITELY.

USUALLY IT'S A MANAGEMENT THING. BUT THERE IS ONLY A THREE-DAY HOLD PERIOD FOR STRAYS. SO THEY ARE AUTOMATICALLY ALTERED. THEY'VE GOT THREE DAYS.

IT'S NOT A LARGE TIME FOR THEM. >> THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT THE CLARIFICATION.

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>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL NOW GREYHOUND RACING IS NOT

EVEN ALLOWED. >> SO WE'VE GOT 30,000 FERREL

CATS IN THE COUNTY. >> WHERE IS THE LOVE?

>> ANYTHING ELSE? >> NO.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE. >> IS THIS SUBJECT TO A PUBLIC HEARING? ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM

THE BOARD? >> I'LL MOVE APPROVAL.

SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED. SO DONE.

APPROVED. NOW ON TO AN 0-POUND GORILLA.

[15.  Grant Agreement with the State of Florida Department of Economic Opportunity-Northeast Florida Multipurpose Youth Sports Complex]

KAREN. >> THIS IS A REQUEST AND APPROVAL FOR OUR GRANT A AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR THE MULTI-PURPOSE SPORTS COMPLEX.

$3 HOLLYWOOD MILLION. $3 MILLION GRANT AND WE'RE ASKING APPROVAL AS WELL AS APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET

RESOLUTION. >> THIS TERM IS UNTIL NEXT JUNE.

>> A ONE YEAR TERM. >> IS IT RENEWABLE.

>> IT IS. YES, SIR.

>> AND WE DON'T KNOW YET WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CONSTRUCT.

>> WE DO NOT. WE JUST LISTED THE MULTI-PURPOSE BUILDS. OTHER ACCOMMODATIONS, PARKING,

BATHROOM FACILITIES. >> DO WE HAVE LAND IDENTIFIED?

>> WE DO NOT. WE HAVE SOME PARCELS WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT BUT NOTHING HAS BEEN TOTALLY DECIDED ON.

>> THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET STATE MONEY FOR A GREAT PROJECT. ASSUMING TH THERE IS DUE DILIGE.

>> AS SOON AS WE SIGN THIS AGREEMENT WE'LL CONTINUE COMMUNICATION. WE HAVE A TEAM LOOKING AT

PROPERTY AND POSSIBILITIES. >> VERY INTERESTED IN TALKING TO

THE TEAM. >> BUT IT'S NOT A MATCHING

GRANT. >> NO MATCHING IS REQUIRED IN

THIS GRANT. >> WE JUST --

>> REIMBURSABLE J. THIS IS OUR LINE ITEM FUNDING THAT WE

RECEIVED FROM STATE. >> WHAT DOES THE PARK PLAN SAY?

>> BECAUSE IT'S A MULTI-PURPOSE IT IS NOT REQUIRED THAT WE HAVE A CERTAIN LOCATION. WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT IN ONE OF OUR STAFF MEETINGS. WE HAD JAMES HOUSEHOLDER WITH THE PARKS & REC. IN THE MEETING SO IT IS NOT NECESSARILY A

NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. >> BUT IT OCCURS TO ME THAT THE POPULATION CENTERS SHIFTING DOWN TO LAKE ASBURY AND WE'VE DONE ALL OF THIS STUFF WITH THE ROADS.

THAT IS WHERE THE BIG GROWTH IS GOING TO BE.

DO THEY HAVE ANYTHING NOW THAT IS STATE-OF-THE-ART FROM IT?

>> NO. NO RECREATIONAL FACILITY.

>> THAT MAY BE THE BEST APPLICATION FOR THIS IS WHERE WE THINK THE POPULATION IS GOING TO GO.

>> CORRECT. >> CAN WE BUY SATELLITE AND --

CLEAN IT UP -- >> THAT MAY NOT BE A STUPID

IDEA. >> FENCE OFF THE SECTION THAT IS BAD. BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT --

>> IT'S 300 ACRES. >> SINCE THE STATE HAS GIVEN US MONEY WE WILL BE ASSUMING MAINTENANCE.

>> -- AT AGREEMENT DID NOT REQUIRE US TO IDENTIFY THE PROPERTY AT THIS TIME SO WE'RE JUST ASKING APPROVAL OF THE FUNDING TO GET IT IN PLACE AND CONTINUING TO WORK TOGETHER.

>> WE'LL WRITE A BLANK CHECK IF WE APPROVE THE FUNDING.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A COMPASS.

>> THE COUNTY WILL ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY FOR FUTURE

MAINTENANCE OBVIOUSLY. >> YES, SIR.

8. >> I ALSO THINK THE BIG KEY IN THIS IS JUST THE ACTUAL LAND ITSELF.

WHERE YOU CAN PUT MULTI-PURPOSE FIELDS.

I WOULD THINK WE'RE TALKING GRASS FIELDS FOR SOCCER.

TOUCH FOOTBALL. LACROSSE.

SENIOR GAMES AND OTHER THINGS -- PICKLE BALL.

YOU'VE GOT TO BUILD A COURT. IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE LAND.

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THE KEY WILL BE I'D RATHER SPEND AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE ON THE LAND SO THAT WE HAVE -- TO BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT WITH THE MONIES. THIS IS CERTAINLY -- SHOULDN'T SEND IT BACK IN AN AMAZON BOX TO RETURN IT.

>> THAT IS THE GOAL OF TODAY TO ACCEPT THE FUNDING AND THEN WE CAN UPDATE THE BOARD ON POSSIBILITIES.

[16.  Owner's Representative Services for 2020 Transportation Bonding Projects]

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>> ANYBODY, CAN YOU UNHOOK THE BOX.

>> CAN YOU UNHOOK THE BOX. THE ONE -- JUST UNHOOK THAT ONE.

THAT WILL STOP IT. >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO START OVER.

JUST PICK IT UP. >> WITH THE JANE BOX.

WITH AN ORGANIZATIONAL CHART -- BASICALLY A SCHEDULE FOR EACH ONE OF THE PROJECTS. A SCHEDULE OF THE VALUES AS WELL AS FOR THE ESTABLISHED RATES. ALL WHICH FALL UNDER MAXIMUM CONTRACT CAP. SO FOR A PROGRAM STRATEGY THE WORK IS DIVIDED INTO TWO DESIGN BUILD PROJECTS AS WELL AS TWO GROUPS THE BLUE AND THE ORANGE COLOR.

THIS DIVISION BREAKS UP THE WORK AS WELL AS LEVELLATION OF THE WORK. WE COLLECTIVELY AGREED THAT WGI WOULD PROVIDE THE SEVEN SERVICES.

RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION SERVICES.

STORM WATER AND ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES.

SEE MORE SURVEY AND CONSTRUCTION AND ENGINEERING AND INSPECTION.

PROGRAM WIDE REIMBURSEMENT AND THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND ALL WITH THE DESIRED OUTCOME TO COMPLETE ALL SEVEN PROJECTS WITHIN THE BONDED RESTRICTIONS AND COVENANTS.

THIS IS AN A LINEMENT. OVERSEEING THE PROGRAM.

SERVICES SPREAD ACROSS ALL SEVEN PROJECTS OVER THE NEXT FIVE-YEAR PERIOD. AS A STRATEGY THE SEVEN PROJECTS WERE INTENTIONALLY GROUPED TO EVEN OUT THE WORKLOAD.

TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE LOCATION, TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION AND THE ABILITY TO FAST-TRACK TWO OF THE PROJECTS.

AND THE GROUPS ARE GROUPED WHILE SPREADING THE OVER-ALL CONSTRUCTION EXPENSE. THE TABLE HELPED TO OUTLINE THE FINANCIAL DIVISION OF THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE WORK AS IT FITS WITHIN THE OVER-ALL PROGRAM.

AND MY APOLOGIES FOR THE EYE CHART.

IT'S VERY TINY WRITING BUT THERE IS AN EXPANDED VIEW IN YOUR PACKAGE. THE INTENT IS TO SHOW YOU HOW THE FUNDING IS DISTURBED. AND YOU CAN SEE THE SEVEN PROJECTS ACROSS THE TOP. AGAINST THE SEVEN SERVICES THERE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE. AND THE SLIDE DEMONSTRATES THE LEVEL OF EFFORT AND THE THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO THE SEVEN PROJECTS. SO IN SUMMARY WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL TO ALLOW THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO OPTIMIZE THE BEST CONTRACT. EXPEDITE EACH PROJECT WHILE MINIMIZING THE COST. MINIMIZE OVERLAPPING OR COMPETING PROJECTS AS WELL AS MANAGING THE CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM SO WITH THAT I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR TO QUESTIONS.

>> MR. CHAIR IF I COULD. >> YES.

ED, GREAT JOB. I KNOW HOW LONG AND HOW TOUGH THIS HAS BEEN IN GETTING TO THIS POINT WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HELPING OUT.

WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE WGI WORKING WITH US TO GET THIS THE RIGHT WAY. ORIGINALLY WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE $129 MILLION WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO SET ASIDE $5 MILLION IN CONTINGENCY. IT MAY BE BUILT IN BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT. SO I WAS ASKING IF THAT IS STILL

THE CASE? >> YES.

THAT IS THE ENTIRE PROGRAM. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CONTINGENCIES WE TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT IS REASONABLE CONSTRUCTBILITY.

SO THAT CONTINGENCY IS BUILT IN AS PART OF THE PROGRAM.

>> AND YOU'RE PRETTY HAPPY WITH THE WAY IT SITS AT THIS TIME?

>> YES, SIR. >> THANK YOU.

>> MY COMMENT WAS IN MY PAST EXPERIENCES DOING BIG PROJECTS

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LIKE 20%-30% INTO IT. I ASSUME THAT YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PRETTY WELL AND THIS IS PRETTY MUCH READY TO BE CAST IN CONCRETE THAT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO

BUILD. >> OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A CONCEPT FOR THE SEVEN PROJECTS. WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH WGI AND APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TONIGHT BUT IF YOU NOTICE FIVE ARE CMAR CONSTRUCTION AT RISK AND I THINK THE LOVE AND KUDOS TO THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERING BECAUSE THAT WILL BRING THE DESIGNER AND THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER ON AT THE SAME TIME AND WE'RE ABLE TO CONSIDER THE SCOPE TO CONTINUE TO MANAGE IN THE

PARAMETERS. >> WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THIS IS I MADE THIS KNOWN TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IS I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA IF THE BOARDED SOME OF KIND OF NOTIFICATION PROCESSOR OVERSIGHT OVER A MAJOR SCOPE CHANGE.

JUST SO WE ARE NOT SURPRISED AT THE END OF THIS THING WHAT IT COST. SOMEBODY COMES IN AND WE JUST NEED TO STRAIGHTEN THIS ROAD OUT AND THE NEXT THING IS WE'RE OVER RUN BY $10 MILLION. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.

I TALKED TO THE ATTORNEY AND SHE THOUGHT MAYBE WE COULD DO A RESOLUTION. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE FREEDOM TO MANAGE THIS AWAY BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHEN WE'RE CHANGING SCOPE BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE THE MONEY IS AFTER THE PROJECT IS KICKED OFF. IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM AND WE DO SOMETHING THAT WILL CREATE AN OVER RUN IT WILL BE IN THE SCOPE CHANGE PROBABLY ASKED FOR BY THE COUNTY.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER SIGNING OFF IN A $50,000 RANGE SO YOU CAN QUARTERBACK THE PROJECT BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT I WOULD LIKE IT TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD AS A RESOLUTION SO WE KNOW ABOUT IT.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO THAT. >> WHEN COMMISSIONER BOLLA BROUGHT THIS UP AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW IN THE PURCHASING POLICY THERE IS A PROVISION THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PURCHASING PRO POLICY IN CONNECTION WITH CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ALLOWS THE COUNTY MANAGER ONCE THE BOARD APPROVES AN AGREEMENT THEN THE COUNTY MANAGER HAS THE THOUGHT, IT USED TO BE 5% AND NOW IT'S 10% TO APPROVE ANY CHANGE ORDERS IN CONNECTION WITH THAT.

SO WHAT COMMISSIONER BOLLA IS REQUESTING IS THAT FOR THE BOND PROGRAM WHAT HE PROPOSES IS NOT TO FOLLOW THAT PROCEDURE IN THE PURCHASING POLICY BUT TO SPECIFICALLY HAVE A POLICY THAT APPLIES FOR THE BOND OF PROJECT WHERE HE WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST I THINK $50,000 ANY CHANGE ORDER OVER $50,000 INSTEAD OF THE COUNTY MANAGER HAVING THE AUTHORITY TO SIGN IT HE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT BROUGHT TO THE BOARD.

>> WHAT IS HIS AUTHORITY NOW? >> 10% OF THE PROJECT.

>> $12 MILLION. >> NO.

FOR THIS AGREEMENT HE WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SIGN CHANGES --

>> I THINK THE SOLUTION IS JUST LET US KNOW ABOUT IT.

YOU HEARD WHAT HIS REQUEST IS CAN YOU LET US KNOW AND IF HUGE CHANGES ARE HAPPENING AND WE'RE NOT HAPPY WITH IT THEN WE CAN

ADDRESS IT THEN. >> OUR INTENT IS TO APPROACH THE BOARD ON -- A PRECINCT BASES AD WE DO SEE A CHANGE THAT IS MAYBE NOT ANTICIPATED OR WITHIN THE PROJECT WE WOULD HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND BENCH THAT WITH THE BOARD.

>> AND DO YOU PLAN ON BRIEFING EVERY MONTH? I LIKE THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT FLOWCHARTS.

I LOVE THAT STUFF. BUT WE NEED THE ABILITY TO IDENTIFY THINGS IN CASE WE NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE --

>> I LIKE OF THE SOUND OF THAT. >> BEFORE IT BECOMES A

CATASTROPHE. >> YES, SIR.

>> AND MR. CHAIRMAN IF I MAY AS WE LOOK AT THIS OBVIOUSLY THERE IS UNKNOWN UNKNOWNS THAT MAYBE COULD CAUSE A CHANGE ORDER.

AS SOON AS WE IDENTIFY THEM WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE TIME

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A MAXIMUM OF A TWO WEEK DELAY ON SOMETHING THAT COULD BE OUT THERE. WE'LL KEEP AN EYE ON THAT AND WORK WITH WALTER AND HIS GROUP WE CAN COME BACK AND SAY THIS IS WORKING OR WE MAY NEED TO COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT PROCESS.

I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR. $50,000.

IT WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD. >> SO WITH THAT IF THAT IS THE BOARD'S DIRECTION WE HAVE A SLIGHT CHANGE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE TO ARTICLE 11 OF THE AGREEMENT THA PRESENTED TO YOU.

WE'LL MAKE THAT CHANGE AND JUST SUBSTITUTE ARTICLE XI THAT WILL MAKE CLEAR THAT CHANGE ORDERS WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD. ALSO OVER THE WEEKEND IN CONNECTION WITH SOME REQUESTS THAT THE GROUP HAD.

UNDER ARTICLE XI THE SAME PROVISION WE DID ADD A SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT IN CONNECTION WITH THE CHANGE ORDERS.

IN ADDITION TO WHAT IS CONTEMPLATED THERE IS A PROVISION THAT IS ADDED THAT A CHANGE ORDER WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR TIME EXTENTIONS THAT ARE NECESSITATED BY THIRD PARTIES.

THEY WANTED TO BE ABLE TO ASK FOR TIMEX -- EXTENSIONS IF THE DESIGN CONSULTANT WHO ARE NOT DIRECTLY CONTRACTING WITH THEM BUT CONTRACTING WITH THE COUNTY IF THEY CAUSED A PROBLEM WITH THE SCHEDULE. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT

WOULD BE BROUGHT TO YOU. >> SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE DID -- OR OUR CONTRACT --

>> THAT IS FINE. >> SO WE'LL MAKE BOTH OF THOSE

CHANGES TO ARTICLE XI. >> OKAY.

>> AND WE'LL BRING BACK TO YOU A POLICY AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING TO ADDRESS THE REVISION. WE WERE NOT GOING TO REVISE THE

PURCHASING POLICY. >> JUST SOMETHING SPECIAL FOR THIS. OR JUST THE RESOLUTION.

7. >> SO WE'RE STILL IN LINE TO VOTE ON THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT TONIGHT.

IS THAT CORRECT? >> I'LL MOVE APPROVAL WITH THE OPINION CHANGES ACETATED BY THE COUNTY A ATTORNEY AND

COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> MOTION.

AND A SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? ALL U ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? SO DONE.

>> IF I COULD HAVE THE FLOOR. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE GROUP.

EVERYBODY ENJOYED A THREE PLUS DAY WEEKEND BUT WE WERE HEAVILY ON THE PHONES. QUITE A FEW HOURS ON SUNDAY AND MONDAY. SATURDAY NIGHT AND AGAIN JUST FROM BEING THE GUY UP HERE AT THE PODIUM A WARM THANK YOU TO THE TEAM AND STARTING OFF ON A GOOD PACE WHEN IT COMES TO WORK

HARD EVERYBODY KNUCKLED DOWN. >> GET GOING.

>> GET TO WORK. I SPENT A GOOD PART OF SUNDAY AFTERNOON READING ALL OF THAT STUFF AND IT WAS VERY STRONG PLAN. IT WAS GOOD.

IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST ONES I'VE SEEN.

>> I'M JUST NOT GETTING IT. >> AND AGAIN THE TEAMWORK OR THE LONG HOURS LAST WEEK TO GET IT TO YOU.

>> REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE GROUP ARE HERE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM?

>> NOT UNLESS THEY NEED TO BRING SOMETHING TO OUR ATTENTION.

EVERYTHING WAS PRETTY WELL COVERED.

>> HE WAS OUT CAMPING AND MADE HIMSELF AVAILABLE US TO.

YOU'VE GOT 15 SECONDS. 7.

>> WE'RE EXCITED TO BE PART OF THIS BOND PROGRA.

I'M WALTER CLAUSE WITH WGI AND TO ASSIST THE COUNTY AND I'M LOOKING VERY FORWARD TO DELIVERING THIS PROJECT ON TIME AND UNDER BUDGET. I KNOW THAT IS CRITICAL.

AND I WANT TO ALSO THANK THE STAFF, THE BOARD, COUNTY MANAGER, COUNTY ATTORNEY. THERE IS A LOT OF WORK THAT WE DID AND AS WELL WRAPPING IT UP THIS WEEKEND TO DELIVER IT TO YOU TODAY. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS ON THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS AS A BUILD IT'S ALTERNATIVE

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ON TIME AND ON BUDGET. IT'S ALL GOING TO BE THERE.

WE'RE READY TO HIT OF THE GROUND RUNNING AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO ADVANCING THE SCHEDULE AND COMING UP WITH IDEAS TO REDUCE BUDGETS. VERY INTERESTED IN THE PARK IDEA TO MAYBE HAVE A SHARED USE POND OR SOMETHING.

[17.  Update on Cares Act Funding (T. Nagle)]

MAKE THAT SELECTION. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BE CAREFUL ABOUT ALL OF THESE ACCOLADES.

BECAUSE THEY WILL WANT A PAY RAISE.

DID. >> HE JUST ANNOUNCED HE IS BUYING THE LAND FOR THE MULTI-PURPOSE -- BOARD MEETING BUT CELESTE WILL BE HERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> LET'S MOVE ON TO CARES ACT AND WHILE WE'RE GETTING READY FOR THAT COUNTY ATTORNEY IN THE INTEREST OF FULLY COMPLYING WITH THE FIRST AMENDMENT.

HAVE WE MISSED ANYTHING ON PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT SHOULD HAVE

BEEN AUTHORIZED? >> YOU DID THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT IN CONNECTION WITH THE AGENDA AND YOU HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND YOU PROVIDED ENDS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND NOW NOT

UNTIL THE END OF THE AGENDA. >> I JUST WANTED IT TO GO ON

RECORD. >> CARES ACT.

>> CHAIRMAN I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING REMOTE.

THIS IS THE OVER-ALL SUBSTANTIAL -- STANCEON THE BUDGET.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? >> GO BACK UP TO THE TOP THERE, TROY. FIRST ONE INCUBATOR SPACE.

850. WE'RE AFFIRMED THAT THAT IS CARES ACT FUNDING. THAT IS OKAY TO DO?

>> CAN WE DEFER THAT UNTIL WE TALK ABOUT THE BUILDINGS.

>> YES. OKAY.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS DOCUMENT? ALL RIGHT. SO CURRENTLY THE NUMBER OF BUSINESSES WE ARE AT 34.5% APPROVED.

WE HAVE ABOUT 10% REJECTED. 48% THAT WE'RE WAITING ON GETTING MORE INFORMATION ON. SO, THAT IS WHERE WE CURRENTLY THERE IS THE NUMBERS. THAT IS WHERE WE CURRENTLY STAND ON THE APPROVALS AS OF THIS MORNING.

AT 5:00 TODAY AS DIRECTED BY THE BOARD WE SHUT DOWN THE RECEIVING OF NEW APPLICATIONS BECAUSE IF WE COULD PROCESS EVERY APPLICATION WE CURRENTLY HAVE WE WOULD BE CLOSE TO FUNDING ON INDIVIDUALS. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE STATUS OF

THE APPLICATIONS? >> TROY, THIS IS MIKE C -- CELL.

>> YOU'LL SEE A SPIKE OF 20 AND THEN IT GOES BACK DOWN TO FIVE OR SIX. ALL RIGHT THE NEXT ITEMS WERE THE BUILDINGS. AS YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN WORK HARD ON TRYING TO GET JUSTIFICATION MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND TO THE CHAIRMAN'S QUESTION ON THE INCUBATOR.

WE'VE RECEIVED VARIOUS INFORMATION AND AT THIS POINT I'LL LET JOHN TALK TO THAT INFORMATION ON THE WAREHOUSE.

>> SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANT, TREASURY IN THE STATE ON JUSTIFICATION OF FACILITIES.

I SENTED YOU AUGMENT AND MY APOLOGIES IT WAS LATE.

EACH ONE OF THESE ARE A 17 PAGE JUSTIFICATION AS TO THE

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SO WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS THEY ASSESSED THE NEED AND COMPARED THIS AND WROTE THIS IN THIS DOCUMENT OF THE NEED.

NOW OUR RESPONSE BACK FROM TREASURY AND BOTH TO CONSULTANT IS THAT WE NEEDED TO ADDRESS THE BOARD AND CORRECT ME IF I MISS SPEAK, TROY BUT THE BOARD NEEDS TO PHYSICALLY VOTE.

YOU'RE VOTING THAT THIS IS A NECESSITY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND THEY NEED TO HAVE IT ON RECORD AND THAT IS WHAT TREASURY GUIDANCE SAID. YOU AS THE ELECTED BODY HAS SAID THAT YOU RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A NECESSITY FOR YOUR COMMUNICATED. BEFORE WE PURCHASE AND COURTNEY PLEASE CHIME IN WE WILL HAVE TO AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PURCHASE PROCESS WE WILL HAVE TO BRING THAT SPECIFIC PURCHASE BACK TO YOU AND HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING SPECIFICALLY ON THE PURCHASE OF THAT FACILITY. SO WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TONIGHT IS WE'LL START WITH THE WAREHOUSE.

WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT AS A NEED AND VOTE THAT IT'S A NEED WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

THEN ONCE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FUNDING THEN WE'VE GOT IT ON THE RECORD THAT YOU VOTED THAT IT'S A NECESSITY WITHIN THE

COMMUNITY. >> BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEEN ON YOUR NEED VERSUS YOUR ABILITY TO STORE THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. THAT'S AN EASY CALL UNLESS THERE IS SOMETHING OUT THAT YOU HAVE NOT SHARED WITH US.

>> NO, SIR. WHEN WE FIRST STARTED COMMUNICATING WITH THE TREASURY AND THE STATE WE WERE LOOKING AT LEASES AND JJ AT THE ECONOMIC COUNCIL AND THERE IS NOTHING FOR WHAT WE NEED OUT THERE TO LEES IN THE SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

WHEN IT BECOMES AVAILABLE IT GENERALLY GOES PRETTY QUICKLY.

SO WE WERE FORTUNATE TO COME UPON THIS ONE.

>> ARE YOU READY FOR A MOTION? IS.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE NECESSITY FOR WAREHOUSING HERE IN CLAY COUNTY.

>> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED. SO DONE.

>> AND THE NEXT THING -- SAME THING.

THE CONSULTANTS CAME OUT, REVIEWED THE ANTIQUATED HEALTH FACILITIES THAT WE'VE GOT AND LOOKED TO THE FUTURE OF PUBLIC HEALTH IN OUR COMMUNITY AND LOOKED AND NAM NAMED -- NEEDED O BRING THIS TO YOU AS WE'RE LOOKING FOR VACCINATING AND OUR DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH IS GOING TO GROW AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO BRINGING THIS TO YOU.

YOU'RE NOT APPROVING A PURCHASE. THIS IS JUST A VOTE THAT YOU RECOGNIZE THIS IS A NECESSITY FOR CLAY COUNTY AND KEEPING IN MIND THEY'VE BEEN ON NUMBER FOUR FOR THE STATE LIST FOR 10 YEARS.

>> AT LEAST 10 YEARS. MAYBE LONGER.

>> THIS IS JUST YOU VOTING THAT IT'S A NECESSITY SO WE CAN HAVE

IT ON RECORD. >> BASED ON YOUR INFORMATION WITH THE POPULATION GROWTH THIS IS A NO-BRAINER I THINK.

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR A NEW

HEALTH DEPARTMENT. >> SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED?

THANK YOU. >> SO THEN I'LL ASK TROY TO CHIME IN. WE'VE BEEN TALKING THE INCUBATOR SPACE WITH THE CONSULTANTS AND WHEN THEY CAME IN THEY WERE CHALLENGING US THAT WE HAD SPACES TO LEASE FOR THAT WHETHER IT WAS A BOARD FACILITY ROOM, A THRASHER HORN OR THAT TYPE OF THING. THEY WERE CHALLENGING US AND HAD CONCERNS THAT THAT MAY NOT QUALIFY 100% FOR CARS -- CARES

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ACT. >> NO.

JUST EVEN OPEN OFFICE SPACE. THERE IS SO MUCH OPEN OFFICE SPACE THAT COULD BE UTILIZED THAT THEY FELT IT HARD TO JUSTIFY WRITING A DOCUMENT TO SAY WE DIDN'T HAVE PEACE FOR AN INCUBATOR. IF WE HAVE SPACE TO USE AS

TEMPORARY. >> THIS IS UP FOR YOUR DISCUSSION. THAT IS THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM THE CONSULTANT. SO, ITS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION YOU ON AND IF YOU VOTE THAT IT'S A NEED BUT THE FEEDBACK WE WERE GETTING FROM THE CONSULTANT IS THAT THEY DID NOT BELIEVE IT

WOULD QUALIFY. >> SO WHAT IF WE VOTE THAT IT'S A NECESSITY AND THEY COME BACK AND SAY NOPE.

IT DOESN'T QUALIFY? >> HOWEVER MUCH.

$850,000 OUT OF POCKET. >> SAY THAT AGAIN.

>> IT WOULD BE $850,000 THAT THE COUNTY WOULD FUND.

>> IF WE WANTED TO PROCEED ON IT.

>> AND THE TREASURY DID NOT FEEL THAT IT WAS ACCEPTABLE THEN WE

WOULD EAT THE $850,000 COST. >> WE WOULD NOT GET REIMBURSED.

>> MY APOLOGIES. >> WOULD THEY INDICATE TO US WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE GOING TO REIMBURSE OR NOT BEFORE WE

EXPENDED THE MONEY? >> NO.

THEY HAVE NOT TALKED AND THAT IS MY NEXT THING THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE FACILITIES.

>> I WOULD NOT HAVE A PROBLEM SAYING WE NEED TO HAVE IT IF WE KNEW WE WERE NOT GOING TO GET REIMBURSED THEN WE WOULD HAVE A SECOND DECISION POINT TO MAKE. IF THERE IS NO RETURN I'VE GOT TO SAY I DON'T WANT TO SPEND IT NOW.

>> SO GO ON RECORD FOR THE NECESSITY.

>> IF WE GO ON RECORD FOR THE NECESSITY AND THEY TELL US AGAIN WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET REIMBURSED OR THAT IS A DEFINITE

FINAL DECISION ALREADY. >> NO.

THAT IS JUST THE CONSULTANT. NO DEFINITELY FINAL DECISION.

>> IT'S LIKE A CIRCULAR. AN EMERGENCY DECLARATION.

IT'S WHATEVER WE SAY IT IS. VERY VAGUE AND UNDEFINED.

IF WE DETERMINE THERE IS A NEED BUT THAT IS THE THING THAT THEY LOOK AT. OR DO THEY TRY TO MAKE THE

DETERMINATION THEMSELVES? >> THAT IS THE TREASURY GUIDANCE AND I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, SEEN CARES ACT PROJECTION ACROSS THE NATION THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFULLY FUNDED AND REIMBURSED THAT IS NOT I WOULD NOT HAVE PUT IT DOWN. I THINK SOUTH CAROLINA IS DOING I-95 TO MAKE IT SMOOTHER TO GET THE MEDICAL FACILITIES.

THERE IS A THREE-STORY SHELTER IN ALASKA BEING PURCHASED AND

SOME AREAS ARE MAKING SUB ROADS. >> SO THEY'VE BEEN FAIRLY

LENIENT. >> AT THE TREASURY.

NOW THAT IS AT THE STATES. BUT THE TREASURY HAS BEEN FAIRLY

LENIENT. >> THE FEDERAL TREASURY.

>> YES, SIR. >> BUT THE STATE HAS THE MONEY AT THIS TIME. THE STATE HAS HAD THE MONEY

SINCE THE ENDS OF MAY. >> I THINK I WOULD GO ALONG WITH COMMISSIONER BOLLA THAT WE VOTE FOR IT AS A NEED BEFORE WE PURCHASE IT. THAT GIVES US MORE TIME AS TO MAKE A DETERMINATION. WE SEEM TO CHANGE SEVERAL TIMES SO IT MAY CHANGE AGAIN AS WE MOVE DOWN THE LINE BUT I'M WITH THE CHAIRMAN IF WE HAVE TO PUT OUT THE $850,000 I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE EXPENSE AT THIS TIME.

NOT WITH THE AMOUNT OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE EATING UP CAPITAL.

BUT I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION IS WE'VE SENT A COUPLE OF LETTERS NOW TO THE STATE. HAVE WE HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE REIMBURSEMENTS ON THE MONEYS THAT THEY OWE US.

>> WE CAN COME BACK TO THE INCUBATOR SPACE.

TODAY THE COUNTY MANAGER SIGNED THE THIRD INVOICE.

IT SPEAKS OF REIMBURSEMENT AND WE BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN GET REIMBURSED UNDER THAT CURRENT C. THE STATE HAS STATED THAT THEY ARE STILL DEVELOPING GUIDANCE AT THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE SO I WOULD ASK YOU ALL MAYBE NOW TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO START SPEAKING TO THEIR LEGISLATIVE FRIENDS AND DELEGATES TO START REACHING OUT TO THE STATE BECAUSE THE GOVERNOR IS STILL NOT RELEASING THE FUNDING AT THIS POINT.

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SO WE DID SEND THE THIRD INVOICE WHICH EQUALS 4.9.

AND THEN BY THE NEXT MEETING IF WE'VE NOT SEEN ANYTHING COMING IN OR HAD ANY CLEAR GUIDANCE BECAUSE THE STATE HAS ADVISED US THAT THEY'VE GOT TO DO A CONTRACT FOR THE REMAINING 75% OF THE FUNDS. WE DID HEAR SOME INFORMATION THAT THERE MAY BE ANOTHER ALLOTMENT OF THE 75% AND NOT BE REIMBURSEMENT BASED BUT UNTIL I SEE BLACK AND WHITE I'M NOT BELIEVING ANYTHING AT THIS POINT.

WE MAY WANT TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS OF THROTTLING BACK UNTIL WE GET CLEAR GUIDANCE AND CLEAR CONTRACTS FROM THE STATE FOR THE REMAINING 75%. WE DID PUT -- I SAY I PUT THE STATE ON NOTICE TODAY ON THE STATE CALL.

WE'RE CURRENTLY FUNDING OUR TESTING AND OUR JAIL NURSES OUT OF CARS ACT MONEY. IF WE DID NOT HAVE CLEAR GUIDANCE THEN WE WERE GOING TO BE PUTTING IN A STATE MISSION TO BACKFILL NURSES AND PULL THEM BACK BECAUSE WE WERE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THEM ANY LONGER.

>> NO REIMBURSEMENT AT THIS TIME.

>> I DO WANT TO BRAG BECAUSE I BELIEVE YOUR TEAM WITH TROY AND LEGAL AND PROCURE MEANT FOR THE $500,000 OR BELOW ARE PROBABLY AHEAD OF MOST OF THE COMMUNITIES.

WE'RE HAVING COUNTIES ALL OVER THE STATE THAT ARE REACHING OUT WANT TO BE SEE OUR PLAN AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE DOING IT AND OUR CONSULTANT WHEN WE ASK THEM QUESTIONS I SAY WHAT ARE OTHER COMMUNITIES DOING THEY SAY NO ONE IS AS FAR ALONG AS YOU ARE.

>> WE CAN CERTAINLY ASK FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS, ASSOCIATES TO CONTACT THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE BUT DON'T YOU THINK IT WOULD BE STRONGER IF WE HAD UNDER THE CHAIRMAN'S SIGNATURE AND THE COUNTY MANAGER'S SIGNATURE A LETTER THAT GOES DIRECTLY TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE THAT INDICATES WHAT WE'VE DONE.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET AID TO OUR CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN STRUCK BY A PANDEMIC THROUGH "NO-FAULT" OF THEIRS OR OURS. OTHERWISE GET US THE MONEY.

>> YES. I DID NOT EVEN THINK OF THAT LETTER. SO THANK YOU.

>> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> JERRY MAGUIRE MONEY.

>> AND/OR QUIT WASTING OUR TIME. >> AND IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEND IT THEN LET US KNOW THAT AS WELL.

>> THEY'VE HAD THIS MONEY SINCE THE END OF MAY.

SO THEY ARE HOLDING IT. >> AND THEN THE $500,000 OR ABOVE WERE DIRECT FUNDED FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

>> I WOULD SUGGEST THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE OUTGOING I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE SEND A COPY OF THE LETTER DIRECTLY TO SENATOR BRADLEY AND REPRESENTATIVE COMINS AND SAME GARRISON AND JENNIFER BRADLEY AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT SITUATION WE'RE IN.

THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. THEY KNEW THEY HAD THIS MONEY AND THAT THEY WERE GOING TO SEND IT TO THE COMMUNITIES AND THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN READY FOR THIS AND THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.

>> AND REPRESENTATIVE PAYNE AS WELL.

>> I APPRECIATE THE IDEA ON THE LETTER AND I THINK THE LAST ONE THAT YOU SENT WAS WHAT GOT IT GOING.

>> WHO'S GOING TO DRAFT UP THIS LETTER?

>> I CERTAINLY DON'T MIND SIGNING IT.

BUT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF TALL WEEDS HERE.

WE NEED SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT VERBIAGE TO USE.

>> EVERYONE POINTED TO COURTNEY. >> JUST TAKE THE LEADED IN THAT.

>> GET TOGET TOGETHER. >> A LITTLE MEAN TOM CRUISE.

>> ARE WE READY TO GO BACK TO THE INCUBATOR.

>> ANYTHING ELSE THAT I MISSED, SIR?

>> NO. >> SO I GO BACK TO THE

INCUBATOR. >> I DON'T MIND IN ALL HONESTY I THINK IT'S A NECESSITY ESPECIALLY WITH THE SITUATION OUR BUSINESS IS IN. 7 BUT ON THE OTHER HAPPENED I DON'T WANT TO SPEND $850,000 OF THE COUNTY MONEY AND FIND OUT

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>> AND IT ALSO GIVES US THE WE PUT THE NECESSITY OUT THERE AND

ANDDECLARE A NEED. >> WITH THE OTHER TWO FACILITIES YOU'RE NOT APPROVING A DOLLAR AMOUNT OR PURCHASE OF SAID FACILITY YOU'RE JUST STATING THAT --

>> BACK TO THE BOARD. LET'S MOVE ON TO THIS.

>> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DECLARE THE INCUBATOR A

NECESSITY. >> I SECOND:

ALL OPPOSED. >> -- DO A $250 STIPEND FOR THEM TO BUY PPE. AND TALKING TO THE COUNTY AND TALKING TO KIMBERLY WE APPROACHED THE CHAMBER AND WORKED WITH WYNDALL ONCOMING UP WITH A PROGRAM SIMILAR FOR BUSINESSES THAT ARE NOT NONRESTAURANT, NONLODGING.

SURROUNDING COUNTIES ARE DOING PLEDGES BUT THERE IS NO INSPECTION TO IT. I'VE PUT UP A DOCUMENT ON THE SCREEN THAT TALKS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

AND WHY WE WANT TO DO IT. BECAUSE CONSUMER SENTIMENT -- MOST PEOPLE SAY THEY ARE MORE WILLING TO GO BACK TO IT.

AND SO IN SPEAKING TO THE CHAMBER THEY ARE WILLING TO RUN A PROGRAM SIMILAR TO WHAT THE LODGING RESTAURANT LODGING ASSOCIATION IS DOING. THEIR COST WOULD BE ABOUT $450 TO THE BUSINESS AND THEN STILL DO A STIPEND TO THE BUSINESSES TO PAY FOR PPE. WYNDALLS IN THE AUDIENCE IF YOU

HAVE DIRECT QUESTIONS FOR HIM. >> WELL I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. FLAGLER COUNTY ALSO DOING A SIMILAR PROGRAM AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SEE CONSISTENTLY IN SURVEYS AND POLLS WITH THE AMERICAN CONSUMER THEY ARE AFRAID FOR GO OUT INTO BUSINESSES SO IF WE CAN TAKE SOME OF THE FEAR AWAY PERHAPS THAT WILL PROMPT SOME OF THEM TO GO BACK OUT AND SPEND MONEY WITH OUR BUSINESSES BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THEY NEED. MOST OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES DON'T DO A LOT OF E-COMMERCE. THAT IS A GREAT WAY TO TRY TO

MOVE PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR HOMES. >> IT'S THE MERGE WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING SAFELY BUT ALSO LETTING PEOPLE FREELY CLUES. -- CHOOSE.

>> LIKE THE GOOD OLD HOUSEKEEPING SEAL OF APPROVAL.

YES THIS BUSINESS IS ADHERING TO AS MANY SAFETY CHECKPOINTS AS POSSIBLE. DO YOU HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE PROGRAM WOULD GO FOR?

>> IN TALKING TO WYNDALL $450 A BUSINESS.

IF WE DO THE SAME STIPEND OF $250 THAT WOULD BRING YOU $700 A

BUSINESS. >> NOW ORIGINALLY THAT WAS NOT IN YOUR BUDGET BUT WE HAVE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN MOVE AROUND.

>> I THINK WITH SOME OF THE STUFF COMING IN WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY AND I'LL REWORK THE BUDGET AND MAKE SURE BEFORE WE HAVE ENTER INTO A CONTRACT AND AGREEMENT.

>> SO THIS IS NOT COUNTY MONEY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THIS IS CARES MONEY. >> THIS IS 100% CARS ACT MONEY P 100 --% CARES ACTMONEY. I THINK THAT WORKS WELL.

AND I THINK THIS DIRECTLY ADDRESSES THAT SITUATION.

SO I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. >> GOOD.

[18.  RFP #19/20-53, Air Purification System for Clay County Facilities HVAC]

IS THERE A MOTION? >> I'LL MOVE APPROVAL AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO CLARIFY A PREVIOUS MOTION.

ON THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT THE MOTION WAS TO MAKE IT A NECESSITY NOT JUST THAT IT'S NECESSARY.

[02:40:01]

OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD. >> AND YOU MOVE THIS.

>> AND THIS. >> I'LL SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? SO DONE. THANK YOU, JOHN.

TROY. ITEM 18 AIR PURIFICATION SYSTEM.

[19.  RFP #19/20-54, Air Purification System and Components for EMS Facilities & Vehicles]

>> WE WOULD LIKE TO PULL THIS ITEM.

WE WERE NOTIFIED BEFORE THE MEETING THAT THE PRODUCT WE REQUESTED IN THE BID HAS A LEAD TIME OF 15-20 WEEKS SO AS YOU KNOW IT'S CARES RELATED AND THAT DOES NOT MEET OUR TIME LINE.

THERE WAS AN ALTERNATE ITEM PROVIDED SO WE WANT TO GO BACK

AND REVIEW THOSE. >> SO WE'RE RESCHEDULING THIS ITEM. ITEM 19.

>> SIMILAR. SO THIS IS CARES RELATED ALSO.

AN RFP FOR AIR PURIFICATION SYSTEMS FOR THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FACILITIES, FIRE STATIONS AND IN THAT WE INCLUDED THE VEHICLES. SO WE HAD A TEAM OF THREE REVIEW THE RFTS AND OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO AWARD TO COMFORT TEMP AND ONLY THE FACILITY PORTION BECAUSE THE

[20.  Approval of the 2020 Clay County Local Mitigation Strategy Plan]

I'LL MOVE APPROVAL. SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED.

SO DONE.

>> I'D LIKE TO OFFICIALLY DECLARE JOHN WARD A NECESSITY.

A MOTION. >> WE STILL HAVE GOT THE B TEAM COMING UP. THERE HE IS.

YOU'RE SAVED SIR. >> PROJECT MANAGER MARK.

JOHN WARD HERE IN FRONT OF YOU YOU HAVE WHAT IS CALLED THE LOCAL MITIGATION STRATEGIES PLAN.

ONE OF THE FEW PUBLIC PLANS THAT WE DO IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

IT REALLY IDENTIFIES NATURAL HAZARDS AND MITIGATION TO PREVENT NATURAL HAZARDS WITHIN A MULTITUDE OF JURISDICTIONS.

FEMA REQUIRES THAT WE UPDATE THIS MITIGATION PLAN EVERY FIVE YEARS. SO 2020 -- SO WE'RE BRINGING IT TO YOU. THIS PLAN HAS BEEN ADOPTED.

WE WORKED ON IT WITH THE PLANNING COUNCIL AND THEN THE STATE. THE STATE HAS APPROVED THE LOCAL MITIGATION STRATEGIES PLAN WHICH AIDLESSES A MULTITUDE OF PROJECTS IT WILL BE SUBMITTED TO FEMA THROUGH THE STATE FOR

[21.  Agreement termination and simultaneous execution of a new State funded grant agreement with the Florida Department of Transportation, regarding the CR220 (from SR21 to West of Henley Road) capacity improvement project]

ADOPTION. >> AND IT HAS TO BE ADOPTED

THROUGH A RESOLUTION. >> YES.

>> I MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED? SO DONE.

NOW JOHN YOU'RE EXCUSED. YOU CAN GO DO WHAT YOU NEED TO

DO. >> GOING TO EAT DINNER.

>> ITEM 21. AGREEMENT PERMANENT NATION AND SIMULTANEOUS EXECUTION OF A NEW STATE FUNDED GRANT.

>> THIS IS THE TALE OF TWO AGREEMENTS.

THE FIRST WAS IN 2018. MISSED ONE TINY WORD THE WORD CONSTRUCTION. Y'ALL APPROVED THE ACCEPTANCE OF IT WITH THE THOUGHT THAT WE COULD CHANGE THAT ONE WORD.

[02:45:04]

AND IF YOU'LL REMEMBER THIS AGREEMENT IS FOR 220 WEST OF HENLE AND THIS IS GOING TO PAY FOR PART OF THE QUADRANT

INTERSECTION THAT YOU APPROVED. >> IS THIS GOING TO ROLL OUR

PROJECT START TIME BACK BE? >> RIGHT-OF-WAY AND A FEW OTHER THINGS. THE THING THAT YOU CANNOT CONTROL ON A PROJECT. WE THOUGHT WE HAD A POND SITE ON 220 AND DOT HAS BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH WHAT WAS A COOPERATIVE OWNER AND THEY'VE MOVED ACROSS THE STREET AND LOOKING AT A SEPARATE POND SITE SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE CHANGES.

IT'S ROLLING BACK A LITTLE BIT AT THIS POINT.

>> ALL RIGHT. THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD.

>> WE NEED TO WAVE THE PURCHASING CODE.

>> THERE ARE FOUR COMPONENTS TO YOUR MOTION.

WAIVERS OF THE POLICY. TERMIATION OF THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT. ACCEPTANCE OF THE NEW AGREEMENT

[COUNTY MANAGER/CLERK OF THE BOARD]

>> SO MOVED ACETATED. >> SECOND.

>> >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> OPPOSED? SO MOVED.

>> OKAY. LET'S GO TO COUNTY MANAGER FOR COMMENTS. SIR.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD. JUST ONE ITEM FOR THE BOARD.

ON SEPTEMBER 4TH RECEIVED A LETTER FROM GOVERNOR DESANTIS REQUESTING INFORMATION REGARDING OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO COVID-19.

THERE WAS A FULL TEXT OF ANY SUCH ORDER WITH ANY AMENDMENTS.

CLARIFICATION PROVIDED BUSINESSES AND OTHERS.

THE ENFORCEMENT GUIDANCE. FINES AND PENALTIES AND THE TERMINATION OF RENEWAL DATES. I ASKED JOHN TO TAKE A LOOK.

WE FOLLOWED THE SAFE SMART STEP-BY-STEP PLAN OF THE GOVERNOR SO, ITS AN EASY ANSWER BACK AND AS YOU ALL KNOW ON FRIDAYS THE LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY IS RENEWED ETCH FRIDAY BY US TO MOVE FORWARD SO I ANTICIPATE THAT THE GOVERNOR IS GOING TO MOVE TO PHASE II IN SOUTHERN FLORIDA AND IT'S FOR

[23.  Discussion of Reappointments to the Clay County Utility Authority Board]

THAT WOULD BE IT AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

>> COUNTY ATTORNEY? NOT A THING.

FIRST TIME I'VE EVER SEEN A LAWYER THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY. MY GOODNESS.

>> AND SHE IS A GOOD ONE. IF YOU KEEP PICKING ON HER SHE

MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY. >> ON THESE LETTERS OF ACTION WE'VE GOT -- DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON ITEM 23?

[24.  Acceptance of Resignation from the Clay County Historic Preservation Board - Linda Mitchell]

WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD.

>> I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE REAPPOINTMENT.

[25.  Discussion of Appointments to the Clay County Historic Preservation Board]

>> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

SO DONE. OKAY.

THAT WAS UNANIMOUS. ITEM 23.

ACCEPT THE RESIGNATION FROM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD.

THE MOTION TO ACCEPT HER RESIGNATION.

>> MOTION. >> SO MOVED.

>> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. SO DONE.

AND ALSO HAVE -- WE'RE IN A POSITION NOW OF MAKING THREE APPOINTMENTS IS THAT CORRECT COURTNEY?

[02:50:05]

THREE POSITIONS OPENED? >> WE HAVE FOUR POSITIONS OPEN BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE APPLICANTS TO FILL ONE OF THEM.

A VACANCY FOR DISTRICT ONE. AND YOU HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR THAT POSITION. YOU HAVE A VACANCY FOR COMMISSION TWO WHICH IS COMMISSIONER BOLLA AND WE DO NOT HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR THAT AND THEN TWO AT LARGE MEMBER SPOTS OPEN. ONE IS FOR MEMBER SIX WHICH IS THE ONE THAT MRS. MITCHELL RESIGNED FROM AND THEN YOU HAVE ONE FOR MEMBER 10. AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE FOR THE AT LARGE WE HAVE THREE APPLICANTS I BELIEVE.

CHRIS STUBS, MS. JUNG AND --

>> AND SANDRA SANTANA. 7 ANY DISCUSSION?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKES'S MOTION THAT WE A DO HAVE DR. SANDRA SANTANA. SHE IS VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY AND NAVY DOCTOR. TAROT BOARD.

>> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

SO MOVED. TWO AT LARGE SPOTS AND WE HAVE DISTRICTS 2 AND 6 TO FILL. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> DISTRICT 2 WE DON'T HAVE ANY APPLICANTS THAT QUALIFY SO THAT REMAINS VACANT. FOR THE AT LARGE YOU HAVE TWO SPOTS. THEY ARE DESIGNATED SIX AND 10.

>> THOSE ARE AT LARGE. >> AND THAT WOULD BE CHRIS STUBS

BEING ONE. >> WE HAVE MAUREEN YOUNG AND

CHRIS STUBS. >> AND CHERYL OWEN.

>> I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF STUBS AND MAUREEN YOUNG.

>> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

ONE IS STUBS AND THEN YOUNG WOULD BE --

>> IN THE ORDER. >> DOES THAT TAKE CARE OF THAT COUNTY COUNCIL? -- COUNTY ATTORNEY?

>> LETTER OF DOCUMENTATION. WE HAVE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT I GUESS. SO I THINK WE'RE DOWN TO PUBLIC COMMENT. ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?

BRING IT ON MR. IS ON TTO. >> JAMES OTTO.

2904 . HIGHWAY 21.

I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD BE WEARING A MASK IF YOU TOLD EVERYBODY YOU HAD THE VIRUS AND BE SOCIAL DISTANCING.

I HAVE SEEN ON THE AGENDA 15-20. 15, 16 AND 20 YOU WERE NOT TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT ON. YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.

$3 MILLION. COME ON FOLKS.

THIS IS THE DREAM LIST FROM TWO YEARS AGO.

YOU'VE GOT CHILDREN IN FOOTBALL RIGHT NOW HERE IN FLORIDA.

THE HOSPITAL WORKERS ARE OVERWORKED.

AND YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING KIDS IN RUNNING INTO EACH OTHER AND CAUSING MORE BULLYING WHEN WE'RE NOT EVEN BACK IN THE SCHOOLS.

IT'S PRETTY SAD. IT'S BEYOND SAD.

SO YOU HAD AN IMPACT FEE OF 0 PERCENT.

YOU HAD CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AT 0 PERCENT IN CLAY COUNTY.

NOW YOU HAVE AN UNDER ASSESSED IMPACT FEE.

NOT EVEN TO WHERE YOU SHOULD HAVE FOR YEARS AND NOW YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON THE BACK OF ABSENT DISTRICT OF MINE.

WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR MSBUS TO PAY FOR ROADS WHEN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY HAVEN'T. WE'RE GOING TO PAY $129 MILLION THAT IS GOING TO TWO PARTS OF THE DISTRICT THAT SHOULD BE SEVEN. IT IS NOT FAIR.

[02:55:01]

VERY FEW TIMES DOES THIS EVER MEETING LIST FOR AN HOUR.

IT'S 4:00 TO DAWN. CAN WE CHANGE THAT.

THAT IS WHY YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE PARTICIPATING.

YOU HAVE THE STRAIGHT UP NUMBERS WRONG.

WE AS A CITIZEN VOTED TO HARDEN OUR SCHOOLS.

NOT TO BUY POLICE CARS RUNNING AROUND.

WE THE CITIZENS VOTED NOT TO HAVE FIELD OF DREAMS. NOW DURING A PANDEMIC YOU'RE TRYING TO PUSH ALL OF THIS THROUGH. THESE GUYS CORONAVIRUS -- NO MASK. NO SOCIAL DISTANCING.

WE'VE GOT OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHISPWHISPER --ING IN THE EARS.

THE PYTHONS. THEY SAY THAT IS A FISH AND WILDLIFE -- THAT'S AN ISSUE. WE'VE GOT TO WORK ON THAT IN TALLEDEGA. WE'VE GOT 12,000 STRAY CATS.

THIS IS NOT A LAUGHING MATTER THAT.

WAS YEARS AGO. WHERE ARE THEY AT NOW? WHERE ARE WE AT IN THIS STUFF RIGHT NOW? OTHER COUNTIES HAVE $5,000 IN THEIR CAR ACT.

I CAN'T EVEN GET THE $1,000 FROM YOU GUYS.

THIS IS RIDICULOUS. I'VE GOT A DRIVER'S LICENCE FOR 16 YEARS. NUMBER 21 WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON EITHER. THIS IS OVER BUILDING.

WHERE IS OUR STUFF ON 21. THE BRIDGE AND EVERYTHING.

WHERE IS YOUR LIST? WHERE IS THE MAP OF THE ADULT ENTERTAIN MEANT SPOTS IN CLAY COUNTY.

I WANT TO PUT THESE THINGS ON YOUR SCREEN BUT YOUR ATTORNEY OVER HERE IS REFUSING TO ALLOW ME TO GIVE THESE THINGS FROM LEGISLATURE AND OTHER THINGS. IF WE COULD GET SOME CLARIFICATION WHEN SOMEBODY KNOWING KNOWINGLY SHOWS UP TO A MEETING WITH COVID AND NOT WEARING A MASK AND NOT SOCIALLY

DISTANCING. >> MR. CHAIR I KNOW WE'RE ALL USED TO MR. OTTO. REFERRING TO OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY AND OTHERS IN DEROGATORY TERMS IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE AND DISGUSTING AND HE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED.

BECAUSE FREE SPEECH IS NOT A RIGHT TO PUBLICLY INSULT PEOPLE AND THERE IS SOMETHING IN OUR POLICY.

I WANT TO GO ON RECORD IN REFUTING THAT AND THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO.

>> VERY GOOD COMMISSIONER ROLLINS AND I TOTALLY AGREE.

[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE DOWN TO FINAL COMMENTS -- FROM THE BOARD. MR. BOLLA YOU WANT TO START?

>> SURE. WHERE DO WE STAND WITH RADAR ROAD? THAT IS SOMETHING IS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT GETTING FIXED.

>> A GRANT, HOW DOES THAT WORK?

>> SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A DECISION ON THAT DECEMBER TIME FRAME.

[03:00:20]

>> OKAY. CHALLENGER PROJECT.

WHEN ARE WE WITH THAT?

>> SEPTEMBER 14TH. AND WE'VE GOT THE PERMITS FROM THE CORE OF ENGINEERS. SO WE'RE GOOD THERE.

SO WHAT IS THE -- WE GET THE BID BACK ON THE 14TH AND WHAT IS THE PROCESS FROM THERE? WE'VE GOT A GO AHEAD ON THAT ONE.

WHAT IS THE LATEST ON THE GUN RANGE? THANK YOU. THAT IS ALL I'VE GOT.

>> MR. CHAIR, CAN I GO BACK TO RADAR ROAD.

TPO DOES A STUDY IF THEY INDICATE SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE DO THEY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FUNDING OR DO THEY HAVE FUNDING? WHERE DOES THAT GO FROM THERE? COMMISSIONER BOLLA FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

GOING TO MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT THE VA CLINIC BUT I THINK IT BEARS CLARIFICATION THAT MR. OTTO GOT UP TELLING US THAT OUR HOSPITALS WERE OVER RUNNING AND BUSY BUT HEATHER AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING SAID THAT WAS NOT THE CASE.

IS THAT CORRECT. SO MR. OTTO ALWAYS SPEWING INACCURATE FACTS AND I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT OUR HOSPITALS ARE OVERFLOWING BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT. I'M IN THE MOOD OF TALKING ABOUT THE VA CLINIC OPENING UP. I HAD CALLS FROM PEOPLE LOOKING FOR POSSIBLE EMPLOYMENT. THEY ARE TRYING TO PUT CLAY COUNTY FOLKS AHEAD OF THE LINE IN TERMS OF INTERVIEWS IF THEY HAVE THE QUALIFICATIONS YOU SHOULD APPLY THROUGH GAINESVILLE IN THE HR DEPARTMENT. ALSO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SWITCH OVER IF YOU'RE A VETERAN AND WANT TO BE SERVED AT THE NEW CLINIC YOU HAVE TO REGISTER AHEAD OF TIME SO YOU NEED TO GET IN THERE AND CONTACT THEM. WE'RE GOING TO PUT UP A NOTICE ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA TO LET PEOPLE KNOW.

THEY WILL BE SEEING AND TALKING TO PEOPLE ON THE PHONE ON SEPTEMBER 15TH WITH TELEMEDICINE.

WE'RE ALL EXCITED ABOUT THAT. BUT I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO BE DISAPPOINTED IF THEY GET IN THERE AND THEY ARE NOT REGISTERED AHEAD OF TIME. THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

>> KIND OF A SOMBER DAY

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.