Aug 03, 2020 Special BCC Agenda

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>>> OKAY FOLKS WE'RE GOING TO START BY HAVING INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. WE'LL CALL ON COMMISSIONER CELLA FOR THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE BY COMMISSIONER BOLLA IF

YOU WOULD STAND, PLEASE. >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.

IF YOU CARE TO JOIN ME, PLEASE BOW YOUR HEAD.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE SEEK YOUR CLARITY AND WISDOM AS WE GATHER TOGETHER FOR TODAY'S SPECIAL COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS HERE. GRANT US SUCCESS TODAY TO FIND LONG LASTING SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE FACING.

SHINE YOUR BLESSINGS UPON EACH OF US INCLUDING OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, FIRST RESPONDERS, STAFF, TAXPAYERS, AND RESIDENTS

IN JESUS NAME I PRAY, AMEN. >> PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> SEATS PLEASE. THIS SPECIAL MEETING HAS BEEN

[CALL TO ORDER]

SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME I WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND I WILL GO TO A ROLL CALL AND LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT ALL FIVE COMMISSIONERS ARE HERE. MOVING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS, I

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>> MY NAME IS RON HUNTER. I'M HERE JUST TO SEE IF Y'ALL HAVE READ YOUR COMMISSION WEBSITE.

THE COMMISSION TO A VISION, DOES THAT RING A BELL? MHM. OKAY.

WELL US ON THE RURAL AREAS FEEL LIKE Y'ALL ARE LEAVING US OUT AND WE'D LIKE TO BE PART OF THAT PRIDE THAT Y'ALL HOLD IN THIS COUNTY. WE LIVE ON WHAT Y'ALL CALL PRIVATE ROADS. AND PRIVATE ROADS ARE PUBLIC THOROUGHFARES. AND VILLANUEVA IS ESPECIALLY A PUBLIC THOROUGHFARE. I WROTE YOU A LETTER, IT TOOK ME TWO YEARS TO WRITE THAT. YOU NEVER RESPONDED TO ME.

SO I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS HAS DONE TO MY FAMILY.

NOT JUST MY FAMILY BUT RURAL AREAS ACROSS THE WHOLE STATE BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VILLANUEVA TODAY.

Y'ALL'S WATER RUNS OFF COUNTY ROAD 315C ON TO VILLANUEVA DRIVE AND IT FLOODS US OUT. YOU HAVE A GARBAGE COMPANY COMING OUT THERE BEATING OUR ROAD UP TERRIBLY.

AND WE WANT IT TO STOP, WE WANT Y'ALL TO START PUTTING ACTION AD HELPING US OUT AND GIVE US SOME REPRESENTATION BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY. I'M SEEING SIGNS POSTED UP THROUGHOUT CLAY COUNTY, THE $0.01 SALES TAX WE PAY, YOU'RE HELPING OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD'S ROADS.

YOU AIN'T DOING NOTHING FOR US IN THE RURAL AREAS.

AND I WANT TO SAY THIS THOUGH BEFORE WE REALLY GET INTO IT.

MR. ROLLINS THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT. OUR FAMILY APPRECIATES THAT.

BUT WE DIFFER ON THE WAY WE LEAD.

DO YOU ALL AGREE THAT PRIVATE ROADS IS A PROBLEM IN CLAY COUNTY? THAT'S AN HONEST QUESTION.

DO YOU THINK IT'S A PROBLEM? SIR, YOU'RE NODDING YOUR HEAD.

IS THAT A YES OR NO? IT'S A FAIR QUESTION.

>> IF I CAN SPEAK, IT IS A FAIR QUESTION.

BUT THE TEMPO OF WHAT WE DO IS YOU'RE HERE TO TALK TO US, WE'RE JUST HERE TO LISTEN. SO WE DON'T NORMALLY RESPOND.

>> I UNDERSTAND. I ONLY HAVE THREE MINUTES,

MA'AM. >> OKAY.

>> ALL WE WANT IS Y'ALL TO START GIVING US SOME REPRESENTATION.

TODAY IS THE 58TH PAYMENT I'M PAYING ON A TRACTOR THAT BEYOND FOR MY PROPERTY. I BOUGHT EIGHT ACRES ON VILLANUEVA IN 1996 AND Y'ALL TOLD ME I COULDN'T PUT A DWELLING ON IT. YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE COME FROM FROM DEPLOYED TO LIVE, AND THEY CAN'T LIVE ON IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH LAND. I BOUGHT OUTSIDE OF THE BOX, I GOT A PIECE OF PROPERTY NEXT TO MINE AND I WAS ABLE TO BUILD ON IT. I COULDN'T PICK MY GARBAGE UP ON SATURDAYS BECAUSE I WORK SO MUCH.

Y'ALL FIRED THEM. YOUR GARBAGE COMPANY PAYS CHINESE OVER TIME. MY TAX DOLLARS ARE GOING TOWARDS

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I'M IN CONSTRUCTION. MY COMPANY GOES DOWN AND I GET ON THE BACK OF MY GARBAGE BECAUSE MY PRIDE IS ABOUT MY FAMILY, TAKING CARE OF THEM. $10 AN HOUR, AFTER $40 AN HOUR YOU DON'T MAKE $10 AN HOUR, YOUR RATE GOES DOWN.

AND Y'ALL ARE DOING THIS TO OUR PEOPLE.

AND I GOT THE COURAGE TO TALK ABOUT IT.

BECAUSE LIFE'S KICKED ME IN THE TEETH AND I'M STILL HERE.

MY KIDS NEED HIGH SPEED INTERNET FOR THE SCHOOL OUT IN KEYSTONE.

MY WIFE, A STAY HOME MOM, SHE TAKES THEM TO THE LIBRARY BECAUSE THEY TOLD US WE DON'T SERVICE YOUR AREA.

BUT I WANT Y'ALL TO LISTEN TO THIS, WE LIVE IN THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WHOLE WORLD BECAUSE I PUT A TOWER UP IN MY BACKYARD AND I GET HIGH SPEED INTERNET NOW.

AND I FEED IT TO TWO OF MY NEIGHBORS AND THEY GET IT TOO.

SO YOU CAN DO IT HERE. BUT WE NEED YOUR HELP ON THESE ROADS. YOU CAN'T BE BRINGING THESE MACHINES DOWN HERE. CLAY UTILITY, THEY COME DOWN THERE AND BEAT OUR DITCHES UP. I'M OUT THERE, I'M THE ONE CLEANING IT. I GRADE THE ROAD TWICE A MONTH.

TWICE A MONTH. SO TODAY WAS MY 58TH PAYMENT, I GOT TWO MORE, OCTOBER IS MY LAST ONE.

I'M COMING IN HERE TO LET Y'ALL KNOW WHERE DO I NEED TO SEND THE BILL FOR THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS FROM HERE ON OUT, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO STAND SOLID. MY FAMILY IS GOING TO GET TO THE HARD ROAD. BUT ALL OF THE WIDOWED WOMEN AND MEN THAT GET BEHIND ME, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT.

I HAVE PICTURES OF OUR FINEST GETTING STUCK ON OUR ROAD.

CLAY COUNTY SHERIFFS DEPARTMENT STUCK ON OUR ROAD.

I TELL YOU WHAT, PEOPLE MAY NOT AGREE WITH OUR SHERIFF RIGHT NOW, AND I HAVE SOME DIFFERENCES WITH HIM TOO, BUT HE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S HELPED US IN THE RURAL AREAS.

AND I DON'T AGREE WITH HIM, HE WENT OUT AND 4 WHEEL DRIVE TRUCKS, I KNOW THEY'RE 60, $70,000 JUST TO GET TO US OUT HERE IN THE RURAL AREAS. BECAUSE Y'ALL DON'T SEEM TO THINK ABOUT THAT WE'RE PART OF THIS LITTLE OUR FAMILY HERE.

>> MR. HUNTER, YOU'RE OUT OF TIME.

>> I KNOW WE ARE. WHEN IS THE NEXT MEETING SO I

CAN GET ANOTHER THREE MINUTES? >> NEXT TUESDAY NIGHT.

>> NEXT TUESDAY NIGHT, ALL Y'ALL WILL BE PRESENT?

ALL RIGHT, I'LL BE BACK. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, DO YOU MIND IF I RESPOND BRIEFLY? SO THERE ARE MANY ROADS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

THERE'S 300 MILES OF UNPAVED ROADS THAT WE HAVE WORKED TO IMPROVE AND THIS IS MY TIME TO TALK NOW.

THIS ISN'T A BACK AND FORTH DISCUSSION.

>> I UNDERSTAND. >> WELL YOU'RE COMING BACK AS IF YOU'RE GOING TO INTERRUPT ME WHILE I'M TALKING.

>> I'M NOT INTERRUPTING YOU, AND I'M NOT ANGRY.

>> WHY ARE YOU AT THE PODIUM NOW?

>> BECAUSE I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING TO YOU ABOUT THAT

SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP NOT ME. >> YOUR TIME IS UP.

>> HE ADDED MORE PRIVATE ROADS TO THE BOOKS.

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT, SIR? >> I DIDN'T DO THAT.

>> IT'S ON YOUR WATCH. WHY DID YOU DO IT? I'M OUT OF HERE, I'LL SEE Y'ALL NEXT WEEK.

EAT ON THAT, BUDDY. >> YOU NEED TO BRING YOUR MANNERS WITH YOU WHEN YOU COME BACK.

>> EAT ON THAT. >> I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THAT MEANS. BUT PRIVATE ROADS ARE THAT, THEY ARE PRIVATE ROADS. AND THE COUNTY IN THE PAST ACTUALLY IN AN EFFORT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR ATTEMPTED TO WORK ON A PRIVATE ROAD ONE TIME AND TEN THAT PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL TURNED AROUND AND SUED THE COUNTY FOR WORKING ON A PRIVATE ROAD BECAUSE PRIVATE ROADS ARE JUST THAT.

I DON'T ASK THE COUNTY TO COME MAINTAIN MY DRIVEWAY IN MY

HOUSE. >> WHY DOES OUR TAX COLLECTOR HAVE A ROAD GOING TO HIS COMPOUND.

>> YOUR TIME IS OUT. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> WE'LL REMOVE YOU FROM THE PODIUM.

>> HIS ROADS GRADED AND HE DON'T HAVE TO GRADE IT.

I'M UP HERE FOR MY FAMILY AND ALL OF THE RURAL AREA PEOPLE.

>> YOU WANT TO SPEAK YOURSELF NEXT WEEK?

>> I DO. >> THEN REMOVE YOURSELF.

>> I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, THANK YOU, SIR.

I'M FIRING YOU. YOU DON'T GET MY VOTE.

>> SO WHAT I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN IS THAT PRIVATE ROADS ARE JUST THAT, THEY'RE PRIVATE ROADS.

AND THEY ARE OWNED BY INDIVIDUALS.

AND THAT GIVES THEM CERTAIN PRIVILEGES TO CLOSE AND SHIFT AND MAINTAIN. BUT IT ALSO REQUIRES THEM MAINTAINING THEIR OWN PRIVATE ROAD.

AND THERE ARE PUBLIC ROADS THAT THE COUNTY MAINTAINS AND WE WORK REALLY HARD TO MAINTAIN THOSE, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD FOR DOING IS MAKING A POLICY WHERE NEW SUBDIVISIONS THAT COME IN ARE NOW PAID FOR BY THAT SUBDIVISION. SO THAT RESIDENTS ON THAT NEW SUBDIVISION ARE PAYING FOR THEIR ROAD MAINTENANCE SO THAT WE'RE NOT ADDING TO THE COUNTY'S ROAD MAINTENANCE LIST AND IT GIVES US

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SO IT'S A TOUGH ISSUE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S CONFUSION ON THE ISSUE. BUT IF YOU'RE WATCHING AND YOU'RE CURIOUS, IF YOU OWN 30 ACRES AND YOU BUILD A ROAD THROUGH YOUR PROPERTY, THAT'S A PRIVATE ROAD.

AND IF OVER TIME YOU SELL PIECES OF THAT PROPERTY TO NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS AND OTHERS WHO ARE NOT IN YOUR FAMILY LIVE ON THAT PRIVATE ROAD, IT STILL IS A PRIVATE ROAD UNLESS IT AT SOME POINT BECAME DEEDED TO THE COUNTY.

THAT'S THE CHALLENGE THAT WE FACE IN SOME OF THE RURAL AREAS OUT IN KEYSTONE. AND WHEN I FIRST BECAME A COMMISSIONER I WAS ON A DIRT ROAD IN KEYSTONE, AND THE MANY

DIFFICULT ROADS TO DRIVE -- >> I CAN'T TAKE IT.

I DON'T WANT BE HERE NEXT WEEK. YOU'RE FROM KEYSTONE.

OUR KIDS GO TO HIGH SCHOOL AT 12 YEARS OLD.

YOU WENT TO KEYSTONE. >> YOU NEED TO REMOVE YOURSELF.

>> YOU AIN'T DONE NOTHING BUT MADE A PROBLEM AND YOU CONTINUE IT. I'M LEAVING.

>> DON'T COME BACK. >> OH I'LL BE BACK.

>> YOU CAN BE BACK, BUT YOU WON'T SPEAK, SIR.

>> OKAY. >> YOU HAVE JUST FORFEITED THAT

RIGHT. >> YOU HAVE A BLESSED WEEK AND I HOPE YOU HAVE A PROSPEROUS REST OF YOUR 2020.

>> WE PLAN ON IT. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR

ALLOWING ME TO RESPOND. >> I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY ON THAT TOPIC OTHER THAN WE'VE GOT ABOUT 3 OR 400 MILES OF DIRT ROADS IN THE COUNTY THAT EVEN IF WE LIKED TO FIX THEM, WE CAN'T.

BECAUSE NUMBER ONE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT AND NUMBER TWO, STATUTORILY WE CAN'T WHICH YOU'VE ALREADY POINTED OUT.

I ASSUME YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING? >> YES, SIR.

I LIKED THAT GUY. I DON'T THINK I'VE TOPPED THAT YET. I'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME.

SO ON THE ATHLETICS ASSOCIATION I SENT THE BOARD SOME MEETING OF THE LEGISLATURE TALKING ABOUT FOOTBALL AND THE DEATHS IN THE SCHOOLS AND ALL OF THAT. I HOPE Y'ALL GOT IT, I SENT IT TO THE ATTORNEY TOO. IT'S ABOUT THREE MINUTE CLIPS.

DURING THIS CARES UPDATE, PLANS FOR ATHLETICS, LET'S JUST KEEP THOSE CLOSED, YOU KNOW. WE DON'T NEED THEM IN THE HIGH SCHOOLS. WE ALMOST GOT FULL HIGH SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW. THE PIT BULLS, THAT'S A CIVIL THING THAT NEEDS TO GO TO A CRIMINAL THING SO THAT THEY CAN WRITE UP THE REPORTS I GUESS. I SENT SOME EMAILS ON THAT.

$129 MILLION SHOULDN'T JUST BE FOR TWO PARTS OF THE COUNTY AND TWO DISTRICTS. JUST A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF THOSE TWO DISTRICTS. BUT IT'S PRETTY MUCH FOR THOSE.

AND I WOULD ASK THE CITIZENS TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT CLAYCOUNTYGOV.COM. WE WAS HERE UNTIL LIKE 1:00 IN THE MORNING. BUT THE ORDINANCE WAS AT 0% AND IT WAS 100% AGAINST OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

I WOULD ASK THAT WE NOT VOTE FOR OFFICIALS THAT WOULD STEP ON OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, BUT I STILL WILL ENDORSE MS. HUTCHINGS. AND WHEN I CALLED IN, I COULDN'T HEAR THE MEETING GOING ON. IS THERE ANY WAY MAYBE THE MEETING CAN BE PLAYED, I APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO CALL IN. I THINK THAT SHOULD BE ONGOING FROM NOW ON. WE NEED TO PROBABLY GET THIS PICTURE WORKING, THAT WOULD BE GOOD TOO SO IT CAN BE MORE TRANSPARENT FOR THE CITIZENS. I KNOW WE'RE ALL HERE FOR THAT $200,000 THAT WE ADDED TO THE SYSTEM.

SO YEAH, THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS, THE DISPOSAL, THEY CAN GO CHECK OUT ALL OF THE ISSUES WE'VE HAD WITH THE DISPOSAL PEOPLE, I HEAR WE'RE CHANGING COMPANIES OR THEY'RE CHANGING NAMES OR SOMETHING. AND THEN I REMEMBER THE MILLAGE

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CLAY COUNTY IF WE GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE BIDS THEY'RE LIKE 15%. WE'VE GOT CONSTANT PROBLEMS WITH THE CONTRACTING ISSUES HERE. AND THEN JUST THE PLAIN FACT OF RUNNING ALL OF THESE PROJECTS AT ONE TIME AND TRYING TO BUILD ALL OF THIS STUFF THAT'S GETTING APPROVED IS GOING TO BE -- SO I COME UP AGAIN AGAINST THE $129 MILLION AND ASK THAT WE DO SLOW GROWTH INSTEAD OF FAST GROWTH.

>> YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU FOR COMING, SIR. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? HEARING NONE LET'S GET TO NEW BUSINESS.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO -- DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO SAY

AHEAD OF TIME? >> JUST HERE FOR THE

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ENTERTAINMENT. >> ALL RIGHT, ITEM ONE ADVANCED DISPOSAL COLLECTION DISCUSSION. I KNOW WE ADDRESSED THIS LAST WEEK. DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT?

>> GREG HUNTINGTON FOR THE RECORD, ADVANCED DISPOSAL.

NATHAN THEIS IS OUR GENERAL MANAGER.

I'M HAPPY THAT I COULD BE ABLE TO COME IN PERSON THIS TIME.

LAST WEEK FORGIVE ME, WE DID CALL IN AND THE REASON WE DID AS YOU KNOW WE'RE BEING ACQUIRED BY WASTE MANAGEMENT.

AND FOR THE FIRST TIME WASTE MANAGEMENT REACHED OUT TO US AND WAS DOING SITE VISITS AND THAT HAPPENED DURING THE COMMISSION MEETING. SO THE LAST THING I WANTED WAS FOR NATHAN TO MISS THAT WITH HIS POTENTIALLY NEW BOSS.

WE CALLED IN, WE WERE A LITTLE RUSHED ALTHOUGH I THINK WE CONVEYED A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION HOWEVER WE DID NOT FINISH STRONG. WE DID NOT COMMUNICATE PROPERLY AT THE END. WE HAD SUGGESTED WHEN COMMISSIONER HENDRY ASKED WHEN WOULD RECYCLING STARTED AGAIN WE SAID OUR GOAL WAS MONDAY AND TH COMMISSION MEETING WAS TUESDAY.

AND IT WAS APPARENT TO US A COUPLE OF DAYS AFTER THAT FACT WHEN WE MADE THAT STATEMENT THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO SUSPEND IT AS AN OPTION FOR ANOTHER TWO WEEKS.

SO THAT'S ON US. WE COMMUNICATED POORLY THERE, AND I KNOW THAT PUTS YOU IN A BAD SPOT BECAUSE YOU GO OUT AND ARE TALKING TO YOUR RESIDENTS ON THE FRONT LINE AND YOU SAY IT'S GOING TO BE MONDAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE MONDAY, RIGHT? SO WE APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, WE REALLY DO. ON ANOTHER NOTE THANK GOD WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH A HURRICANE AND A NATURAL DISASTER AT THE SAME TIME. COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS MUST HAVE BEEN PRAYING FOR THAT TO DOWNGRADE TO A TROPICAL STORM AND PUSH OFF TO THE RIGHT A LITTLE BIT.

WE NEED TO KEEP THAT IN THE BACK OF OUR MINDS BECAUSE WE ARE IN HURRICANE SEASON, RIGHT, AND WE'RE STILL DEALING WITH THIS PANDEMIC. SOME PEOPLE MAY SAY IT'S POLITICALLY OVERBLOWN, WHATEVER, HISTORY WILL DETERMINE THAT.

IN THE MEANTIME OUR COMPANY HAS TO OPERATE BASED ON OSHA AND CDC GUIDELINES. SO IF IF SOMEBODY TESTS POSITIVE YOU'VE GOT CONTACT TRACING AS WELL AS THE 14 WEEK QUARANTINE.

SO I BROUGHT NATHAN WITH ME BECAUSE HE CAN SPEAK TO THE OPERATIONAL PIECE AS TO WHY WE DECIDED TO GO ANOTHER TWO WEEKS.

INITIALLY WHEN WE MET WITH TE COUNTY BACK IN MARCH, OUR PLAN WAS IF WE WERE GOING TO DROP A LINE OF COLLECTION AS A RESULT OF AN EFFECT ON OUR WORKFORCE, RECYCLING WOULD BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE TO DO. IN THAT WORST CASE SCENARIO MONTH, BEST CASE SCENARIO GET IT PICKED UP IN TWO WEEKS WE WOULD.

IT BECAME OBVIOUS WE NEEDED THE OTHER TWO WEEKS.

IF IT GOES BEYOND THAT, THAT'S ON US.

I THINK MOST OF THE RESIDENTS IN CLAY COUNTY UNDERSTAND WE'RE DEALING WITH A NATIONAL EMERGENCY, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, PANDEMIC, WHATEVER. AND WITH THIS TOO, I THINK MOST PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE IN THIS TOGETHER, IT'S A PARTNERSHIP. IF WE WERE FAILING WITHOUT ANY EXTERNAL FORCES, THEN I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW RESIDENTS COULD .

BUT WE'RE JUST DOING THE BEST WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN DEALT IN TERMS OF I THINK AND NATHAN CAN SPEAK TO US, I THINK WE HAD SIX POSITIVE COVID CASES. SO I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR NATHAN CONCERNING SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND MAYBE

HIS THOUGHTS. >> AS GREG SAID, NATHAN THEIS.

ADVANCED DISPOSAL GENERAL MANAGER FOR CLAY COUNTY.

BEEN THERE ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS NOW, COMING UP ON THREE.

LIKE GREG SAID RECENTLY SIX POSITIVE CASES, THOSE WERE ALL AT ONCE. THAT'S WHAT REALLY HINDERED US.

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WE SAT DOWN AND I HAD HIM HAND OUT A LITTLE CHEAT SHEET IF YOU CAN CALL IT A LITTLE CHEAT SHEET FOR JUST SOME REASONS WHY WE CHOSE RECYCLING. WE WENT OVER EACH LINE OF BUSINESS, WE WENT OVER THE EFFECTS ON THE RESIDENTS, WE WENT OVER THE EFFECTS ON RECOVERY, THE EFFECTS WHEN THERE'S AN OUTSIDE MAYBE A STORM OR SOMETHING THAT COMES THROUGH THE AREA. AND EVERYTHING KEPT LEADING US BACK INTO THE RECYCLING LINE OF BUSINESS.

IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE HERE BEFORE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I THINK IT'S BEEN ONE OF THE CLEANEST TRANSITIONS THAT WE'VE HAD FOR DOWNING A LINE OF BUSINESS OR A COMMODITY.

WE HAVE TWO GOALS OR TWO TOP PRIORITIES SPECIFICALLY IN CLAY COUNTY, NUMBER ONE THE SAFETY OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND THE RESIDENTS.

AND NUMBER TWO, SERVICE WHICH ULTIMATELY RESULTS IN CLEANLINESS. SO FOR ME THE NUMBER ONE THING WE COULD DOWN IF WE NEEDED TO BECAUSE OF OUTSIDER RELATED ISSUES WAS RECYCLING. AS YOU CAN SEE IF YOU GO THROUGH THAT SHEET, IT ALLOWS RESIDENTS TO STORE IT AWAY FROM THE CURB, WHEREAS IF YOU HAVE YARD WASTE OR GARBAGE WHEN IT'S TAKEN TO THE CURBSIDE IT JUST GENERATES MORE MATERIAL, IT STAYS CURBSIDE FOR LONGER PERIODS OF TIME WHETHER WE CAN GET TO IT OR NOT.

PARTICIPATION, CURRENTLY DURING THESE FEW MONTHS, IT HAS THE LOWEST PARTICIPATION RATE. USUALLY YARD WASTE IS THE LOWEST PRECIPITATION RATE. BUT BEING THE SUMMER MONTHS AND HURRICANE SEASON, YARD WASTE SHOOTS THROUGH THE ROOF.

PEOPLE ARE CUTTING BACK, PEOPLE ARE TRIMMING, PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET RID OF THINGS IN PREPARATION FOR A STORM SO THERE'S NOT LOOSE DEBRIS AROUND THAT ARE PROPERTY.

VOLUME, SO IT'S THE SMALLEST ITEMS, RIGHT, OTHER THAN CARDBOARD BOXES AND THOSE HAVE TO BE CUT DOWN TOO.

BUT YOU HAVE THE SMALLEST ITEMS THAT CUSTOMERS CAN TRANSPORT TO AN ECC ACROSS THE COUNTY OR TRANSPORT SAY IF THEY PUT IT CURBSIDE OR ARE NOT AWARE IT'S BEING DOWNED OR SUSPENDED THEY CAN BRING IT BACK TO THEIR FACILITY OR GARBAGE.

AND NUMBER THREE, IT ALLOWS FOR THOSE WHO MAYBE DON'T HAVE A PRIORITY OF RECYCLING AND WOULD LIKE TO JUST GET RID OF THE MATERIAL AS EASY AS POSSIBLE THEY DO HAVE THAT OPTION OF PUTTING IT OUT WITH THE MSW WHICH NO OTHER COMMODITY IS AVAILABLE TO DO THAT. YOU CAN'T COMMINGLE YARD WASTE AND YOU CAN'T PUT GARBAGE WITH RECYCLING, BUT YOU CAN PUT RECYCLING WITH GARBAGE. SO IT ALLOWS MORE OPTIONS.

NUMBER FOUR, RECOVERY PERIOD, RECYCLING WILL BE PICKED UP IN A WEEK. WE HAVE COMPACTION TRUCKS ON OUR RECYCLING. WE'RE ALLOWED TO PICK UP MORE MATERIAL WHEN IT'S CURBSIDE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WHAT OUR PROCESS IS AS SOON AS WE RESUME. WE UNDERSTAND IT'S GOING TO BE HEAVY AT THE CURBSIDE. WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF BOXES EXTRA AT THE CURBSIDE.

WE UNDERSTAND RESIDENTS MAY HAVE MATERIAL THAT IS COMINGLED, WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO COLLECT THEM ALL THAT WEEK AND GET CAUGHT UP. IT'S A ONE WEEK RECOVERY TIME VERSUS YARD WASTES COULD BE WEEKS AND COULD BE MONTHS AS ALL OF YOU HAVE SEEN AFTER STORMS WHEN YARD WASTE IS CURBSIDE AND IT REALLY RUINS THE AESTHETICS OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE LAST ONE WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE EVERY OTHER WEEK OPTION, MAYBE ROTATING YARD WASTE AND RECYCLING AND WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING THERE IS REALLY CREATING MORE CONFUSION FOR THE RESIDENTS, MORE CONFUSION FOR OUR TEAMS ON OUR ROUTES.

WE'D BE ACTUALLY NEGATIVELY AFFECTING MORE RESIDENTS, MAYBE WHO THOSE WHO RECYCLE AND DON'T DO YARD WASTE OR YARD WASTE AND DON'T RECYCLE, NOW YOU'RE AFFECTING A BROADER RANGE OF RESIDENTS. WHEN WE RUN YARD WASTE EVERY OTHER WEEK, WE DO NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO COLLECT DOUBLE THE MATERIAL FOR TWO WEEKS OF MISSED SERVICE.

EVEN THEN YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE YARD WASTE CURBSIDE ALONG WITH RECYCLING EVERY OTHER WEEK. SO THAT'S WHAT LED US TO THIS DECISION OF SUSPENDING RECYCLING SERVICE LIKE I SAID AFTER GOING THROUGH ALL OF THIS AND REALLY KEEPING THE SAFETY OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND THE RESIDENTS FIRST AT HAND AND THEN NUMBER TWO, THE CLEANLINESS OF CLAY COUNTY.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> IT'S ALREADY BEEN STATED BUT THE VOLUME OF EXTRA GARBAGE CALLS BY THE STAY AT HOME ORDER, CAN YOU ADDRESS WHAT THAT'S DONE TO Y'ALLS SERVICES?

>> YEAH. ONE SECOND.

SO JUST FROM 2019 TO 2020 IN MARCH IT WAS ONLY TWO WEEKS IN

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FOR GARBAGE. >> SAY THAT AGAIN, 700 TONS?

>> 700 TONS, YES, SIR. SO WE TRACK OUR TONNAGES.

IN APRIL IT WAS 1300 TONS MORE THAN 2019 TO 2020.

AND THEN IF YOU SKIP TO JUNE, IT WAS 1200 TONS IN GARBAGE.

AND WE'VE ALSO SEEN AN INCREASE IN YARD WASTE AND RECYCLABLE MATERIALS. RECYCLABLE MATERIALS HAD THE LEAST AMOUNT OF INCREASE WITH YARD WASTE DIRECTLY AFTER THAT WITH 200 TONS, 700 TONS, 100 TONS IN MAY, AND 200 TONS IN JUNE. AND ONE OF THE REASONS IS SAFE AT HOME, YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE DOING A LOT OF YARD WORK.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS GOT AROUND TO PATCH NURSERY AT THE TIME BUT THE LINE WAS ALL THE WY OUT TO 17.

SOA LOT OF PEOPLE WERE DOING EXTRA WORK THEN.

>> IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE TO ME EVEN IF Y'ALL HAD NOT LOST ANY OF YOUR EMPLOYEES TO COVID, YOU PROBABLY COULDN'T HAVE KEPT UP

WITH THAT VOLUME? >> SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS COVID, WE HAVE HAD EMPLOYEES OUT DUE TO COVID, IT JUST HASN'T BEEN SIX AT A TIME. SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO RELY ON OUTSIDE HELP. EVERY WEEK SINCE THE BEGINNING OF APRIL WE'VE HAD SOMEONE IN TOWN 1 TO 4 PEOPLE IN TOWN FROM ANOTHER BUSINESS UNIT ACROSS FLORIDA HERE HELPING US.

>> WOULD THAT BE THE CHINESE? >> NO, SIR.

>> TELL US ABOUT THAT WHILE IT WAS BROUGHT UP.

THAT WAS NEWS TO ME. >> WE PAY A DAY RATE.

SO WE PAY A DAY RATE, NOT AN HOURLY RATE.

AND YOUR HOURLY RATE CHANGES EACH WEEK DEPENDING ON HOW MANY DAYS YOU WORK UNTIL YOU GET TO 40 HOURS.

I'VE HEARD SOME PEOPLE CALL IT CHINESE OVERTIME, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHY IT'S CALLED THAT.

WE PAY A DAY RATE, IT STARTS AT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF HELPERS, AND A CERTAIN NUMBER FOR CDL DRIVERS.

YOUR HOURLY RATE FLUCTUATES DEPENDING ON HOW MANY HOURS YOU

WORK GETTING TO 40 HOURS. >> I THOUGHT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE FROM CHINA HELPING PICK UP OUR GARBAGE.

>> I WOULD TAKE THEM FOR HELP. >> SO GIVE US JUST THE SHORT OF IT. WHEN THE TRUCKS GOING TO BE BACK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOING WHAT THEY USED TO DO?

>> SO WE'RE SEEING A -- WE'RE MOVING IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION IN OUR CASES COMING BACK TO THE WORKFORCE.

IT TAKES A MINUTE TO GET YOUR RESULTS AND TO GET THE NEGATIVE RESULT TAKES A LITTLE BIT LONGER.

WE'RE LOOKING AT NOT THE COMING UP MONDAY BUT THE FOLLOWING MONDAY, I BELIEVE THAT'S AUGUST 17TH.

SO ORIGINALLY WHEN WE FIRST TALKED TO MR. WATERMAKER AND MR. TOWNS WE SAID OUR GOAL WAS TWO WEEKS.

MORE THAN LIKELY IT'S GOING TO BE A MONTH.

I DON'T THINK I DID A GOOD JOB AT RELAYING THAT MESSAGE TO YOU GUYS. AND AS GREG SAID I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. BUT ULTIMATELY WITH THE MANAGEMENT TEAM THAT WE HAVE, IT SHOULD BE AUGUST 17TH, WE SHOULD BE READY TO ROCK AND ROLL. THAT ALLOWS US TO GET OUR EMPLOYEES BACK FROM THEIR SICK LEAVE AND THAT'S NOT EVEN TO MENTION ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT WE'VE HAD WHO HAVE LOST LOVED ONES AND WE'VE HAD TO WORK WITH THEIR BEREAVEMENT ON THAT AND SHOWING THE RESPECT THERE. SO OUR GOAL IS TWO WEEKS.

AND I FEEL A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE ABOUT THIS GOAL THAN

I DID THE FIRST ONE. >> OKAY.

COMMISSIONERS? >> I THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE AND GIVING US THE REASON BEHIND THE RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU MADE. I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> ONE THING THOUGH, I KNOW THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT THEY JUST HAVE THIS PLETHORA OF RECYCLABLES. IF YOU HAVE EXTRAS CAN YOU PUT THEM IN A PLASTIC BAG AND SET THEM AT THE ROAD WHEN YOU START PICKING UP AGAIN? THE BINS AREN'T GOING TO HOLD

EVERYTHING. >> WITHOUT A DOUBT.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SPECIFICALLY ON WHAT THE PROCESS IS ON THAT. WHEN RESUMES WE ARE GOING TO COLLECT THE MATERIAL. OUR GOAL IS TO BE CAUGHT UP IN ONE WEEK AND NOT GENERATE ANY CALLS.

AT THAT POINT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE PERFECT STEPS OR THE PERFECT PROCESS ON WHAT TO DO WITH THAT.

OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT THOSE BLACK BAGS OR WHITE BAGS IN WITH OUR RECYCLABLES, WHETHER THAT'S DEBAGGED CURBSIDE OR AT THE LANDFILL, WE'RE STILL WORKING AND NAVIGATING THROUGH THAT.

>> YOU SURE DON'T WANT TO PICK THEM UP ONE BY ONE OFF THE LAWN.

>> YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. >> OKAY.

THAT WILL BE GOOD IF YOU CAN GET THAT PLAN OUT.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> VERY GOOD.

I WAS GOING TO ASK WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO START, AUGUST 17TH

IS THE DATE, RIGHT? >> YES, SIR.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. THEIS? I HAD HEARD I'M NOT SURE WHO IT WAS FROM, MAYBE ONE OF MY PEER

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DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT I'M ASKING, IS THAT TRUE OR HAS

THAT BEEN RECTIFIED? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. ROSEMARY HILL HAS NOT BEEN WITHOUT SPACE. OUR CONTAINERS HAVE GOTTEN FULL BUT WE'VE GOT SPACE. WE'VE ADDED 220 YARD CONTAINERS TO HANDLE THE VOLUME. THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE SMALLER CONTAINERS WE USUALLY HAVE ADD ROSEMARY HILL.

AND WE ARE SEEING QUITE AN UP TICK IN THE USE OF THOSE RECYCLING CONTAINERS AT ROSEMARY HILL.

WE DID HAVE ONE OF OUR COLLECTION CENTERS THIS SATURDAY THAT THE RECYCLING CONTAINERS GOT OVERFULL AND WE WERE NOT ABLE TO TAKE ANYMORE. WE'VE ALREADY GOT PLANS FOR THIS NEXT WEEKEND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RECTIFY THAT WITH EXTRA CONTAINERS. WE STARTED OFF WITH THE CONTAINERS EMPTY. WE THOUGHT THAT WE HAD THE CAPACITY BASED ON OUR HISTORY. BUT THAT CENTER EXPERIENCED ABOUT 1/3 MORE TRIPS ON SATURDAY THAN WE ARE USED TO GETTING.

AND I THINK MOST OF THOSE MUST HAVE BROUGHT RECYCLING BECAUSE WE DID RUN INTO AN ISSUE THERE, BUT WE HAVE TAKEN STEPS TO

RESOLVE THAT. >> GOING TO ASK YOU, IS THERE A PROCESS WHEN SOMEBODY BRINGS RECYCLABLES THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY USUALLY HEAD TO? DO THEY GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS OR IS THERE SOMETHING DIFFERENT YOU CAN DO?

>> IT'S THE NORMAL PROCESS. >> SO IN ROSEMARY THEY GO

THROUGH THE -- >> ACTUALLY AT ROSEMARY HILL AND RECYCLING COULD DO THIS ANY WAY, AND WE'VE PUT ARROWS UP.

THEY CAN BYPASS THE SCALES AND GO DIRECTLY TO RECYCLING CONTAINERS IF THEY'RE GOING TO RECYCLING.

IF THEY'RE BRINGING SOLID WASTE OBVIOUSLY THAT GOES TO TO ANOTHER AREA AND THEY NEED TO GO PASSED THE SCALES.

BUT THEY CAN BYPASS THE SCALES IF RECYCLING IS BEING BROUGHT.

AT THE DROP OFF CENTERS, THOSE CENTERS ARE NORMAL FOR THEM AS THEY COME IN. AND THEY JUST NEED TO PUT THE MATERIALS IN THE CORRECT RECYCLING CONTAINER.

>> SO THE ANSWER IS AUGUST 17TH WE'LL RESTART, WE'LL HAVE THIS BACK TO NORMAL THE WEEK AFTER THAT, RIGHT?

>> THAT IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD. THAT IS THE PLAN WE'RE WORKING TOWARD. I CAN TELL YOU, I DID SOME CALLING AROUND EARLIER TODAY, SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING COUNTIES. THERE ARE COUNTIES IN FLORIDA AND OF COURSE A LOT OF CITIES AND COUNTIES ACROSS THE NATION THAT HAVE SUSPENDED SOME TYPE OF SERVICE FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME.

PREDOMINANTLY PEOPLE ARE SUSPENDING RECYCLING, ALTHOUGH IN SOME MARKETS THEY'RE SUSPENDING BULKY WASTE WHICH IS YOUR LARGE APPLIANCES OR YARD WASTE OR EVEN TRASH.

BUT IN MOST CASES IT'S BEEN RECYCLING.

I SPOKE WITH THE DIRECTOR AT ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND THEY ARE EXPERIENCING SERVICE DELAYS, SOME FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT IN ALL LINES OF BUSINESS. THEY HAVE TWO HAULERS THERE, SO IT'S NOT JUST ADVANCED DISPOSAL WHO IS STRUGGLING.

AND THEN I SPOKE TO DUVAL COUNTY, CITY OF JACKSONVILLE SOLID WASTE THIS MORNING AND THEY ARE EXPERIENCING SERVICE DELAYS AND THEY HAVE THREE HAULERS IN THREE DIFFERENT ZONES. AND THEN I REACHED BACK TO MY CONTACTS TODAY AND TODAY THEY RESUMED YARD TRASH COLLECTION AFTER ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF WITH NO COLLECTION ON YARD TRASH SPECIFICALLY DUE TO STAFF LOSSES GOING THROUGH THE COVID PROTOCOLS. AND SO THEY'VE REPORTED THAT THEY WERE HAVING DELAYS IN YARD TRASH PRIOR TO THAT.

AND THEY EXPERIENCED ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF WITH NO COLLECTION. SO IT IS AFFECTING OTHER MARKETS WITHIN OUR AREA AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY AVOIDING IT HITTING A WORKFORCE ALTHOUGH IN TALKING WITH NATHAN, THEY'VE DONE ALL THEY CAN REASONABLY DO TO TRY TO LIMIT THE EFFECTS AND WHETHER IT SPREAD AMONG STAFF WITHIN THE OFFICE, THEY'RE STAGGERED STARTS AND CLEANING AND NOBODY GATHERED UP IF THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE. THEY'VE MOVED ALL OF THEIR NORMAL SAFETY MEETINGS, THEY'RE NOW HAVING STAND UP MEETINGS IN THE PARKING LOT WHERE THEY CAN KEEP SPACING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND I BELIEVE THEY ARE TAKING THE NECESSARY PROTOCOLS TO TRY TO KEEP THEIR PEOPLE SAFE.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? >> MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD, SORRY

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I WISH WE HAD GOTTEN THE STRAIGHT SCOOP IN TERMS OF THE TIMING. I THINK IT MADE IT WORSE TO TELL PEOPLE TWO WEEKS AND THEN WE EXTENDED IT FOR ANOTHER TWO WEEKS. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS AND I DON'T KNOW WE CAN'T PUT PEOPLE IN A BUBBLE.

BUT HOW DO WE PREVENT US GETTING IN THE SAME SITUATIONS A MONTH FROM NOW OR A MONTH AND A HALF FROM NOW.

BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY I DON'T THINK THAT THE PUBLIC AT THAT POINT WOULD HAVE ANY PATIENCE FOR IT? ARE WE CONTINUING TO RECRUIT OR WHAT DO WE HAVE A GAME PLAN TO BRING PEOPLE IN FROM OTHER DISTRICTS ALTHOUGH IT SOUNDS LIKE ALL OF THE DISTRICTS ARE HAVING THAT SAME PROBLEM IN

TERMS OF A SHORTAGE OF MANPOWER? >> RIGHT.

FOR THE LONGEST TIME WHEN WE WOULD HAVE OUR WEEKLY AND MONTHLY CALLS WITH MY BOSS AND SUPERIORS AND ADVANCED DISPOSAL AS A WHOLE WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WASN'T EFFECTED.

FOR THE LONGEST TIME IT WAS SOMETHING I COULD HANG MY HAT ON. SIX ALL AT ONCE, AND OUT OF TOWN HELP WAS SUSPENDED BECAUSE THEY WERE GETTING HIT.

SO YOUR QUESTION TO HOW TO PREVENT IT GOING FORWARD, WE'VE AMPED UP OUR CLEANING, WE HAV CSR'S WORKING FROM HOME.

WE HAVE DRIVERS AND HELPERS TOGETHER, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO KEEP THEM TOGETHER EVERY DAY IN THE SAME TRUCKS.

OUR DRIVERS HAVE THEIR OWN, I COULD GO THROUGH A LAUNDRY LIST OF OUR CLEANING AND PROCEDURES, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. AND THEN ULTIMATELY AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S DOING THE RIGHT THING, RIGHT, WITH EITHER THE CLEANING PROCESSES OR HOW WE'RE SERVICING OR HOW WE'RE COMMUNICATING. IT'S BEING PREPARED, SO LEANING ON OUR OUTSIDE OFFICES THAT CAN HELP US.

THEY SEEM TO BE BOUNCING BACK. WE'RE IN CONTACT WITH THEM NONSTOP. THE REASON THAT I'M MOST AMPED UP ABOUT THE 17TH IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 17TH WITH THE OUTSIDE OFFICES TOO. THEY SEEM TO THINK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE AS WELL. BUT YES, SIR, WE'RE DOING CONSTANT INTERVIEWS. I HAD THREE INTERVIEWS TODAY.

OF COURSE WE'RE DOING EITHER ACROSS THE 8-FOOT TABLE OR PHONE INTERVIEWS. WE HAD TWO GUYS IFCLASS TODAY SO IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET GUYS ON. YOU'RE SEEING AN INCREASE IN TONNAGES ON ALL LINES OF BUSINESS.

WE'RE RUNNING OUR HIGHEST ROUTE NUMBER FOR YARD WASTE BECAUSE WE'RE IN SEASON, HURRICANE SEASON.

SO IT'S A PERFECT STORM AND JULY IS THE HARDEST MONTH FOR A GARBAGE COMPANY, IT JUST IS, THE KIDS ARE AT HOME, THE LAWN'S GETTING CUT EVERY WEEK, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT PLAY INTO THE FACT FOR JULY AS A GARBAGE MAN.

WE'VE MADE IT THROUGH JULY, WE'RE IN AUGUST NOW.

FOR ME THAT'S A BREATH OF FRESH AIR.

AND I'M VERY CONFIDENT THAT THE 17TH IS GOING TO COME AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK BACK AND LOOK AT ALL OF THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES AND THINK WE DID THE RIGHT THING BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE BACK AND OTHER COUNTIES ARE GOING TO BE STRUGGLING WITH YARD WASTE.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. I KNOW YOU CAN'T PUT EVERYBODY

IN A BUBBLE LIKE THE NBA. >> YES, SIR.

>> TO JUST GO ALONG WITH THAT THOUGHT PROCESS, I SAW FIGURES THE OTHER DAY THAT I THINK OUR AVERAGE SALES OF GROCERIES IN THE UNITED STATES IS LIKE $1.2 BILLION.

AND SINCE MARCH THAT NUMBER HAS CLIMBED IN EXCESS OF $7 BILLION.

SO IF YOU'RE BUYING THAT MUCH IN GROCERIES YOU'RE GOING TO BE

THROWING STUFF AWAY. >> ARE PEOPLE JUST EATING MORE?

>> AT HOME. EATING MORE AT HOME.

>> NO RESTAURANTS AND OTHER COMMERCIAL.

SO THOSE PEOPLE ARE SEEING A DECREASE IN HAVING TO BUY FOOD.

BUT SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE AND OBVIOUSLY ONCE YOU BUY SOMETHING EVENTUALLY YOU'RE GOING TO THROW THE PACKAGING OR THE REMAINS OUT

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING. >> AND EVEN IF YOU GO OUT NOW YOU'RE ENCOURAGED TO TAKE IT HOME OR TAKE IT OUT.

SO WE'RE GETTING THAT MATERIAL CURBSIDE.

EVERYONE WHO USED TO BE IN AN OFFICE IS WORKING FROM HOME.

SO OUR TONNAGE FOR INCREASE IS A PERFECT STORM.

I LEARNED FROM IT, WE'RE EXCITED I THINK WE MADE THE RIGHT DECISION. LOOKING BACK I THINK WE'LL BE LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF EVERYONE ELSE IN THE COMING WEEKS.

>> WHEN THE NEXT PANDEMIC SHOWS UP YOU'LL BE READY.

>> HOPEFULLY I'LL STILL BE HERE. >> TO SOME DEGREE THEY'RE STILL BEING HELD HOSTAGE BY THE POTENTIAL COVID OUTBREAK AT YOUR

FACILITIES? >> YES, SIR, MOST DEFINITELY.

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WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE HIRING. I HAVE FULL SUPPORT FROM MY SUPERIORS TO HIRE, OVER HIRE, BRING PEOPLE IN.

WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN, EVERYONE WATCHING THIS WE'RE HIRING. WE'VE BEEN HIRING THE WHOLE TIME. SO IF YOU WANT TO WORK AND GET PAID CHINESE OVERTIME, WE'LL HIRE YOU.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? >> MR. CHAIR, ONE OTHER REAL QUICK. HAVE YOU GUYS ALREADY DONE A VIDEO ON THIS OR ANY OTHER RELEASE THAT HELPS THE PUBLIC BETTER UNDERSTAND, LIKE A PR THING FROM A COMMUNICATIONS

STANDPOINT? >> WE'VE POSTED SOMETHING ORIGINALLY I THINK IT WAS THE 22ND OR 21ST.

WE UPDATED OUR, SO ANY TIME YOU CALL IN, YOU GET THE VOICEOVER RIGHT AWAY ABOUT RECYCLING SERVICES.

A VIDEO WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT. >> I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU COULD DO SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY BUT JUST A VERY SHORT, CONCISE VERSION OF THAT AND WE COULD POST IT ON OUR CLAY COUNTY PAGE AND THAT KIND OF THING BECAUSE ONE OF OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGES IS ALWAYS JUST GETTING THE MESSAGE

OUT THERE, COMMUNICATING THAT. >> SURE.

>> IF EVERYONE IS OKAY WITH THAT, THAT WOULD JUST BE A SUGGESTION BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE WATCHES THESE MEETINGS.

>> IF YOU COULD DO IT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> WE CAN WORK ON THAT. >> MORE INFORMATION IS ALWAYS GREAT. ANYTHING ELSE FOR MR. THEIS OR MR. HUNTINGTON? COUNTY MANAGER, HAVE ANYTHING

YOU NEEDED TO ADD ON TO THIS? >> NO, SIR.

AND NATHAN, IF YOU WANT TO GET TO ANNALISE SHE CAN HELP YOU OUT WITH THE SOCIAL MEDIA TO MAKE SURE IT GETS ON OUR WEBSITE AND ALL OF THAT. BUT I DEFINITELY THINK A VIDEO WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU FOR THE PARTNERSHIP AND UNDERSTAND THESE ARE DEFINITELY TRYING TIMES AND I HOPE YOUR TEAM MEMBERS ARE STAYING HEALTHY AND THAT THEY REALIZE THAT WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE DOING FOR US EVERY WEEK ON BOTH THE THREE STREAMS THAT ARE HERE.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

COUNTY ATTORNEY, I HAVE A QUESTION, THE ITEMS 1 THROUGH 4 ON THE AGENDA, ARE THEY SUBJECT TO PUBLIC COMMENT OR NOT?

>> NO. >> OKAY.

[2.  Approval of the FY 20/21 Maximum Millage rates and setting the date, time and location for the First Public Hearing for the adoption of the FY 2020/2021 Clay County Tentative Budget]

COUNY MANAGER, YOU WANT TO SET THE STAGE --

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, YES. THANK YOU.

BRING UP TWO SLIDES, THE FIRST SLIDE WILL BE THE ESTIMATED REVENUE FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE'S TAX RESEARCH. OKAY.

SO ON LAST TUESDAY IF YOU NOTICE THERE WAS ONE LINE ITEM REMAINING AND WE GET THAT LINE ITEM ON FRIDAY.

IT'S THE LOCAL DISCUSSIONARY SALES SURTAX SPECIFICALLY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S IN THERE. AND NO SURPRISE IT'S $819,765,000 LESS THAN WHAT WE WERE SEEING.

THE TOTAL OF THESE REVENUE STREAMS WE'RE SEEING ON THE BOARD APPROXIMATES $5 MILLION. SO THIS SHORTFALL BASICALLY NEGATES THE INCREASE IN PROPERTY TA TAXES AD VELORUM. THE PROPERTY TAX COLLECTOR CAME IN AND SAID IT EQUATES TO APPROXIMATELY AN 8.101 MILLAGE RATE EQUATES TO $6 MILLION. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO 1.5 MILLION. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN EXTRA REVENUE THAT WE CAN ALLOCATE ACCORDINGLY PER THE BUDGETS FOR THE CONSTITUTIONALS AND FOR THE BCC.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? SO AGAIN WHEN I ASKED BUDGETS TO BE PREPARED AND MADE I ASKED THE BUDGETS TO BE FLAT ACROSS THE THE BOARD. YES, SIR.

>> QUESTIONS FOR -- >> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS JUST COMMENTS. I THINK WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST SET THE MILLAGE AT WHAT IT IS CURRENTLY AND THEN THAT WAY THERE'S NO SURPRISES WHEREAS IF WE TRY TO SET IT HIGHER, THEN THERE'S AN UNFAIR EXPECTATION THAT THAT'S SOMEHOW GOING TO BE THERE WHICH I HAVE NO INTENTION OF VOTING FOR ANYTHING HIGHER THAN THE CURRENT MILLAGE FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.

>> I WOULD CONCUR WITH THAT AS WELL.

I'M SET. >> SO NEXT SLIDE, TROY, IF YOU

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OLGA DID A FANTASTIC JOB. A LOT OF THESE, THESE REVENUE STREAMS CAME IN LAST MINUTE AS YOU ALL KNOW.

WE DIDN'T GET A MAJORITY OF THEM UNTIL LAST WEEK IN ORDER FOR US TO FIGURE THIS OUT. AN ADDITIONAL ITEM DID COME UP FROM THE LAST BOARD MEETING WITH REGARDS TO THE SPLIT BETWEEN 102 AND 140. IF YOU ALL REMEMBER I MENTIONED ONE FUND BEING UNHEALTHY AND ANOTHER HEALTHY.

WE LOOKED AT THAT, THERE WAS A STUDY THAT WAS DONE, A COST ALLOCATION THAT THE SHERIFFS OFFICE DID THROUGH A CONTRACTING COMPANY CALLED MGT. IT'S A COMPANY THAT WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH. WE LOOKED AT THAT STUDY.

OLGA, I ALSO BELIEVE COURTNEY LOOKED AT THIS FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT. AND THAT WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE ALLOCATION IT WAS BASED UPON CALL VOLUMES, IT WAS ALSO BASED UPON CENSUS. SINCE 2007, 2008 FISCAL YEAR THIS SPLIT HAS ALWAYS BEEN 50/50.

LOOKING AT THIS AND LOOKING AT THE ALLOCATION, SPLITTING IT 35/65 MADE SENSE ACROSS THE BOARD AND HENCE THAT CHANGE WAS MADE. IT REALLY AND THE BOTTOM LINE IT DID NOT CHANGE MILLAGE RATES LIKE WE ANTICIPATED PER SE.

THE ONE RATE IS INSIDE OF THE COUNTY WIDE SERVICES MILLAGE RATE THAT'S LISTED THREE DOWN FROM THE TOP.

SO AGAIN THAT TOTAL REMAINS AT 5.3021.

SO THAT REMAINED THE SAME. AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ALSO REMAINED THE SAME AT 2.1831. SO AGAIN DELAYING UNTIL TODAY'S SPECIAL MEETING HELPED US GET WHAT WE WERE GOING TO RECEIVE THE ANTICIPATED TAX REVENUES. IT ALSO ALLOWED US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT STUDY THAT THE SHERIFFS OFFICE HAD PROVIDED.

I ASKED OLGA TO PREPARE A BOOK FOR US HERE AND IN YOUR BOOKS THAT YOU ALL HAVE, AND THIS WAS SENT VIA ELECTRONICALLY THURSDAY OR FRIDAY, I THINK IT WAS FRIDAY AND SENT TO YOU.

IF YOU'LL ALL TAKE A LOOK AT THE BOOK, THE BOOK ON THE FIRST PAGE SHOWS WHAT'S IN OUR FIRST PAGE OF THE BUDGET.

IT LISTS THE MILLAGE RATES SINCE 2015 AND THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATES THAT ARE LISTED THERE.

AGAIN THE FISCAL YEARS ARE LISTED.

AGAIN IF YOU JUST GO TO FISCAL YEAR 2020-2021 THE TOTAL CERTIFIED TAXABLE VALUE IS $12.2 BILLION.

AND AGAIN THAT'S A 7.25% CHANGE INCREASE YEAR AFTER YEAR.

THE LAST BOX DOWN BELOW THE MILLAGE RATE CALCULATIONS ARE LISTED, THEY'RE ALSO UP ON THE BOARD.

AND REALLY FOCUSED IN ON THE MILLAGE RATE OF 8.101.

IF YOU TURN TO YOUR TAB LABELED 102 AND IN 102 IF I JUST HAVE YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE ENDING BALANCES, IT'S JUST ABOUT AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT FUN SHEET THERE. AND IT SHOWS YOU THAT THE RESERVES CONTINGENCY, NOW IT HAS 176,000 IN IT.

THE RESERVES CASH NOW 1.5 MILLION.

BY THAT ALLOCATION OF THE 65/35 SPLIT WE'RE ABLE TO BRING IN AND SHOW SOME CON TIN GENERAL -- CONTINGENCIES THERE BRINGING IT OUT OF BEING UNHEALTHY AND IT'S DEFINITELY ON A FITNESS PLAN AND NOW TRADITION PLAN TO GET IT HEALTHY SO TO SPEAK.

SO IT NOW HAS SOME CONTINGENCIES IN THERE.

IF YOU TURN TO TAB 140 IN THAT SAME AREA, IT SHOWS YOU THAT 140 HAS BOTH CONTINGENCY AND GASH RESERVES TOTALLING $1.7 MILLION.

AGAIN I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT THIS IS TOTALLY HEALTHY, IT'S OKAY OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT, AND OBVIOUSLY IT IS WHAT IT IS ON THE VALUES AND WHERE WE ARE.

I KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION SO IF YOU GO BACK TO THE FRONT TO THE GENERAL FUND, 001, YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK ON THAT.

I KNOW ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS ASKED ME ABOUT HOW WE STOOD WITH REGARDS TO CONTINGENCIES FOR OUR GENERAL FUND.

AND IT'S A DIFFICULT QUESTION TO ANSWER.

SPECIFICALLY THE QUESTION WAS MAKE THIS BUDGET WHOLE.RVES TO - THERE'S A COUPLE OF WAYS TO LOOK AT IT.

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IF YOU COMPARE THAT TO THE CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET IT IS SLIGHTLY LESS APPROXIMATELY $417,000 LESS.

THAT BEING SAID THAT'S ONE DATA POINT.

I ASKED OLGA TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE ON CASH CARRY FORWARD AND THAT $3.64 MILLION CONTINGENCY.

I ALSO SAID NOT ONLY TO MAKE THE BUDGETS FLAT BUT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT KEEPING BOTH CONTINGENCIES AND CASH RESERVES UNDER THE BEST PRACTICES. THE BEST PRACTICE FOR CONTINGENCIES AND RESERVES IS 5% TO 10%.

THAT $3.6 MILLION IS AT 5%. FOR CASH BALANCE FORWARD, THE NUMBER IS 15.4% IS WHERE WE'RE AT AND AGAIN THAT BEST PRACTICES, 15% TO 20%. SO I SAY THAT THAT WE STILL HAVE TWO MORE MONTHS LEFT IN OUR CURRENT YEAR AND THEN MOVING TOWARDS PUBLIC HEARINGS BOTH ON SEPTEMBER 8TH AND SEPTEMBER 22ND FOR THOSE BUDGET HEARINGS FOR THE FINAL BUDGET.

SO AGAIN I WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR COST SAVINGS AS WE COMPLETE OUT THIS YEAR AND TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE EVEN HEALTHIER RESERVES THAT ARE IN THERE. SO AGAIN TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION IT'S REALLY A MOVING TARGET IN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS.

LET ME GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES, THE HURRICANE DOWNGRADED TO TROPICAL STORM ISAIAS, WE ARE REALLY FORTUNATE.

ACROSS THE BOARD WHETHER IT'S OVERTIME TO STAFFING, WE REALLY WITH JOHN AND LAUREN TOOK A CLOSE LOOK AT THE MANNING AND HOW WE WERE MANNING THE EOC TO ANY OF THE CONTINGENCY PLANS THAT WE HAD OUT THERE. WE EVEN MADE A CALL NOT TO OPEN UP A SHELTER WHICH WAS A GREAT CALL.

WE WERE GOING TO OPEN UP ONE. SO THERE WERE SOME SAVINGS THERE. I CN'T PREDICT THOUGH THE NEXT TWO MONTHS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE IN REGARDS TO THE HURRICANE.

SO AGAIN I WILL COME TO THE BOARD EACH MONTH AND LET YOU KNOW HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT MOVING TOWARDS THOSE CONTINGENCIES AND TO ENSURE THAT THOSE CONTINGENCIES ARE IN THOSE BEST PRACTICES AND EVEN HEALTHIER THAN THE MINIMUM AMOUNTS OF 5% AND 15%. SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR

QUESTION. >> TO KIND OF PARAPHRASE THAT IF YOU'RE GIVEN A RANGE OF 15% TO 20% IS RECOMMENDED WE'RE AT THE

VERY BOTTOM OF THE OKAY SIDE. >> WE ARE ENOUGH TO GET US THROUGH THE FIRST TWO MONTHS, WE HAVE ENOUGH IN THAT AMOUNT TO GET US THROUGH THE FIRST TWO MONTHS OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

>> AND THE LAST BIG HURRICANE TOOK US OUT $10 MILLION, RIGHT?

>> APPROXIMATELY, YES, SIR. >> SO WHERE DOES THE 10 MILLION

COME FROM FOR THE NEXT ONE? >> IT COMES FROM RESERVES.

NOW THERE'S OTHER WAYS, THERE'S OTHER FUNDS THAT WE CAN BORROW FROM AND REPLENISH THOSE. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE IN DIRE NEED OR THAT. BUT WE'VE GOT THOSE FUNDS AND WE'LL PLAN ACCORDINGLY. YES, SIR.

IT'S DEFINITELY A BALANCE AND SOMETHING THAT CONSTANTLY HAS TO BE LOOKED AT TO KEEP IT IN CHECK.

>> YEAH. >> THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ADD TO AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE YEAR AND WE SEE THAT WE GET MORE MONEY ON THE REVENUE SIDE, WE CAN CERTAINLY APPLY THOSE TO THE CONTINGENCIES IF WE NEED TO.

UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE AFTER OCTOBER 1ST BASED ON WHAT THE ECONOMY IS DOING AND WHAT KIND OF REVENUES THE STATE WILL BE EXTENDING TO US AND TO OUR SHARE. I JUST WANT TO SAY EARLY ON WE GAVE YOU THE TARGET OF THE 8.101 WHICH IS THE MILL RATE THAT WE'VE HAD FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NW AND THAT WAS THE MILL RATE

WHEN I STARTED. >> AT LEAST THE LAST FIVE I

THINK. >> AND YOU WORKED WITH THE COUNTY CLERK THAT WAS HERE TODAY AND WE HAD THE CONSTITUTIONALS WORKING WITH YOU IN TERMS OF KEEPING THE BUDGET FLAT.

OUR BUDGET IS FLAT. YOU TOLD ME I THINK WE'RE UNDER $500,000 IN TERMS OF THE INCREASE THAT WE SEE FROM A COUNTY COMMISSION. SO I MEAN ON A $350 MILLION BUDGET, THAT'S A PRETTY SMALL PERCENTAGE INCREASE.

WE APPRECIATE THAT, WE APPRECIATE THE STAFF WORKING TO KEEP IT FLAT. SO IT WAS CERTAINLY A TEAM EFFORT AND I THINK THE TAXPAYERS WILL BENEFIT BY IT.

I THINK THEY SHOULD APPRECIATE IT AND THE FACT THAT THIS BOARD HAS WORKED VERY HARD AT KEEPING OUR TAX LEVEL AT LEAST THE MILL RATE THE SAME. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE A SMALL INCREASE BECAUSE THE VALUE OF THEIR PROPERTY HAS GONE UP.

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IT TO GET THERE. >> IT WAS DEFINITELY A TEAM EFFORT ACROSS THE BOARD. WORKING WITH THE CONSTITUTIONALS, WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO ENSURE THAT WE WEREN'T SPENDING. AGAIN I PUT OUT REALLY AND TRULY YEAR OVER YEAR I ASKED FOR IT TO BE FLAT AND SOMEWHERE MAYBE BETWEEN 0% AND 2% AS THE INCREASE.

THERE WERE SOME FACTORS OUTSIDE OF THAT AS YOU ALL KNOW WITH COVID-19 AND ELECTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT JUST MADE IT, IT IS WHAT IT IS. SO I APPRECIATE IT.

I THINK REALLY WHEN THE PANDEMIC STARTED, WE WERE GOING INTO REALLY DEVELOPING THE BUDGET AND REALLY LOOKING AT IT WITH OLGA, LAUREN AND OTHERS EVEN MIKE PRICE BACK THEN LOOKING AT IT, THAT'S WHERE WE STUCK A STAKE IN THE SAND AND SAID WE NEED TO HAVE IT FLAT. WE'RE ANTICIPATING AN INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES, BUT WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT DECREASE ESPECIALLY SHUTDOWN, MARCH, APRIL, MAY, AND THOSE EFFECTS THAT WE SAW AND WE'RE CLOSELY LOOKING AT THOSE CURRENT REVENUE STREAMS, WHAT THOSE PREDICTIONS WERE GOING TO BE.

SO AGAIN IT'S DEFINITELY KEY AND CRITICAL FOR OUR ECONOMY TO COME BACK FOR JOBS OUT IN THE WORKFORCE FOR US TO SPEND THE CARES MONEY EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY TO HELP OUT OUR LOCAL ECONOMY AND TO ENSURE THAT.

AND TO PUT UNDUE BURDEN ON A HIGHER TAX RATE AND MILLAGE RATE WOULD BE JUST DEVASTATING TO OUR ECONOMY IN YEARS TO COME.

WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO RECOVER AS QUICKLY.

SO AGAIN LOOKING AT THAT TO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE READY FOR THOSE UNKNOWN UNKNOWNS AS COMMISSIONER BOLLA IS WORRIED ABOUT, WHERE DO WE GET THE MONEY FOR IF THERE'S A HURRICANE AND WHAT DO WE DO IN THE FUTURE FOR THAT.

I CAN TELL YOU HERE WITH OLGA TAKING A LOOK AT THAT AND HER AND MY CONVERSATION, NOT ONLY IS THE BUDGET BALANCED WITH THIS AND AGAIN FLAT CHANGE YEAR OVER YEAR BUT ALSO CIP IS BALANCED AND SERVICE TO THE DEBT FOR BOND IS ALSO COVERED UNDER THIS.

SO AGAIN THERE'S TWO MORE MONTHS AHEAD.

WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT. WE DEFINITELY NEED PRAYERS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING HAPPEN TO US.

BUT AGAIN WE HAVE CONTINGENCIES IN THERE AND I'D HAVE TO COME TO THE BOARD IF THERE WAS A CHANGE IN OUR TACT AND SERVICES PROVIDED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I'M READY TO DISCUSS THIS WITH

THE BOARD. >> VERY GOOD.

>> AND WE NEED TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THIS BUDGET OR JUST

ONE? >> THIS IS JUST A SET MILLAGE RATE, CHAIRMAN. AND WE'LL HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS IN SEPTEMBER TO FINALIZE THE BUDGET.

AND THOSE DATES ARE IN OUR CALENDAR AS THE 8TH OF SEPTEMBER AT 5:05 P.M. AND THEN 22ND OF SEPTEMBER AT 5:05 P.M.

>> ANY DISCUSSIONS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR SETTING THE MILLAGE RATES?

>> AS WE SET THE MILLAGE RATE TODAY OBVIOUSLY WE CAN GO LOWER OUR EXPENDITURES, WE JUST CAN'T GO HIGHER.

I GUESS THE ONLY QUESTION AND THE SORT OF WILD CARD AT THIS POINT WOULD BE THE SHERIFFS BUDGET.

>> YES, SIR. >> SURE IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT, IN ORDER TO MEET THE SHERIFFS REQUEST, THE BOARD WOULD HAVE TO VOTE A MAX MILLAGE OF AT LEAST 1.0.

AND SO THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY TAKE IT UP TO OVER NINE ON THE MILLAGE RATE AND POSE A LOT OF BURDEN TO THE TAXPAYERS AND THE COUNTY. AGAIN IT'S A BALANCE BETWEEN PUBLIC SAFETY BOTH ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND LOOKING AT THAT, I DID TAKE CARE OF THE SHERIFF AS BEST WE COULD ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND OUR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT WITH THAT.

SO WITH THE 1.5 MILLION INCREASE THE SHERIFF IS RECEIVING 1 MILLION OF THAT 1.5 IN HIS BUDGET.

AND THEN LOOKING AT THAT WE HAD MEETINGS LAST WEEK WITH HIS

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>> OKAY, ARE WE READY TO SET THE MILLAGE?

>> DO YOU NEED ME TO MAKE A MOTION IS THIS.

>> AND WE NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.

>> GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION. >> I MOVE THAT WE SET THE MILLAGE RATE AT THE CURRENT MILLAGE OF 8.1.

>> SECOND. >> 8.10.

>> THE CURRENT MILLAGE. >> MOTION AND SECOND.

>> AS PART OF THAT MOTION DOES HE NEED TO ESTABLISH THE PUBLIC HEARING OR JUST REFER TO THE RESOLUTION?

>> REFER TO THE RESOLUTION. THE RESOLUTION THAT'S IN YOUR

PACKET, THE ATTACHMENT A. >> I MOVE WE SET A MOTION FOR

THE ACCOMPANYING RESOLUTION. >> SECOND.

>> AND A SECOND. WE'LL START WITH OUR ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER BOLLA.

>> AYE. >> MR. CELLA.

>> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS.

>> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS.

>> AYE. >> AND THE CHAIRMAN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE SO IT PASSES 5-0. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR TWO PUBLIC HEARING DATES ON 8TH OF SEPTEMBER AND 22ND OF SEPTEMBER.

ANYTHING ELSE UNDER ITEM TWO? I THINK THAT PRETTY WELL COVERS

[3.  Commission Auditor Recruitment Update]

RECRUITMENT UPDATE. >> JENNIFER, HUMAN RESOURCES.

JUST AN UPDATE. WE DID RECEIVE THE SELECTIONS FROM EACH OF YOU FIVE COMMISSIONERS.

WHAT WE DID, SOME WE DID RECEIVE AS A RANKING, SOME JUST WITH A LIST OF NAMES. WHAT WE DID WE LOOKED AT THE MOST FREQUENTLY SELECTED CANDIDATES.

WE CAME UP WITH FOUR WHO WERE MOST FREQUENTLY SELECTED.

THE NAMES ARE IN ALPHA ORDER AND EACH OF YOU HAVE A LIST IN FRONT OF YOU. SO THE FIRST ONE IS HEATHER BOUCHER, SECOND SAM GARDNER, FOURTH VINCENT.

THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS WILL BE SCHEDULING THE ONE ON ONE INTERVIEWS WITH EACH COMMISSIONER.

WE CAN DO THAT OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEK PERIOD.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE MOST FREQUENTLY WHEN WE'VE HIRED FOR THIS INVOLVING COMMISSIONER INTERVIEWS WOULD BE TO SET ASIDE A DAY THAT YOU CAN HAVE EACH COMMISSIONER IN HERE AND CYCLE THROUGH THE CANDIDATES.

IF THAT DOES NOT WORK, WE CAN COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT WAY TO DO THAT. FOR THE MOST PART THE SELECTED CANDIDATES ARE LOCAL. THEY ARE ALL FROM FLORIDA.

THREE ARE VERY LOCAL. ONE IS FROM THE TALLAHASSEE AREA, SO THAT WOULD INVOLVE A LITTLE BIT OF TRAVEL FOR THEM.

WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT THE IN PERSON INTERVIEWS, OR WE CAN CONSIDER MICROSOFT TEAMS INTERVIEWS IF THAT WORKS AS WELL. AND THEN THE LAST STEPPI ONCE W DO THAT WOULD BE SELECTING THE TOP TWO CANDIDATES TO COME IN AND DO THE PUBLIC INTERVIEWS THAT YOU WOULD TYPICALLY DO WITH

A CONTRACT EMPLOYEE. >> DO WE HAVE A TARGET DATE THAT WE WOULD LIKE THIS PERSON TO REPORT FOR DUTY?

>> THAT'S BASED ON YOUR DESIRE. >> TOMORROW? IS THIS SOMETHING WE CAN DO HOPEFULLY IN A MONTH, THREE

WEEKS? >> I BELIEVE SO.

>> OKAY. I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE BOARD, I WOULD ALWAYS ENJOY THE PERSONAL TOUCH AS FAR AS AN INTERVIEW. I'M NOT MUCH ON DOING IT ON THE COMPUTER. BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THESE FOLKS IN PERSON WHEN I ASK THEM QUESTIONS AND TALK TO THEM.

YOUR THOUGHTS? >> THAT'S ALWAYS THE BEST WAY IF

IT'S POSSIBLE. >> OKAY AS FAR AS THE SELECTION PROCESS, EVERYONE GOOD WITH THE WAY THAT THIS HAS BEEN DONE AND

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>> YEAH, I'M FINE. >> OKAY.

I WOULD ASSUME THEN WE WOULD JUST PROCEED WITH A DATE THAT WE CAN GET, IT WOULD BE TOO MUCH TO ASK EVERYBODY ON THE SAME DATE,

BUT DO THE BEST YOU CAN. >> I'LL REACH OUT TO YOU INDIVIDUALLY, WE'LL PROBABLY COME UP WITH THREE DATES AND SEE

WHICH ONE OVERLAPS THE BEST. >> THAT WORKS.

ANYTHING ELSE FOR JENNIFER? >> MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO MAKE SURE TOO THAT THE DESIRE OF THE BOARD IN PERSON MEETINGS AND THEN THAT FINAL DECISION OR THAT HAPPENS ALL ON ONE DAY OR DO YOU MIND IF IT WAS BROKEN UP INTO TWO FOR THE PUBLIC PORTION OF IT SO YOU HAVE YOUR INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS AND THEN THERE'S A PUBLIC PORTION. DO YOU WANT THAT TO OCCUR ON THE SAME DAY OR THAT DOES NOT MATTER?

>> IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. >> OKAY, PERFECT.

SO THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER AND THAT MAKES IT LESS OF

A BURDEN AS AN ALL DAY AFFAIR. >> I THINK WE GET THE PERSONAL INTERVIEWS FROM THE FOUR AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE DEPENDING ON

WHAT THAT IS -- >> CAN IT BE PART OF A REGULAR

SCHEDULED MEETING? >> IT COULD BE.

>> IT COULD BE, YES, SIR. >> THE FINAL TWO COMING IN COULD BE PART OF THAT AND THEN WE COULD ACTUALLY DECIDE IN THE

COURSE OF THE MEETING. >> DOES THAT CLARIFY EVERYTHING,

JENNIFER? >> YES, SIR.

THANK YOU. >> OKAY.

[4.  CARES Update]

THAT PROCESS? >> SURE.

TROY ANGLE. HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY? A COUPLE OF THINGS. 4600 APPLICATIONS TOTAL IS WHAT WE'VE RECEIVED. THAT'S INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESSES COMBINED. WE CONTINUE TO RECEIVE BOTH

ONLINE AND MAIL IN. >> DO YOU HAVE THOSE NUMBERS?

>> IT'S ABOUT 3800 INDIVIDUAL. ABOUT 600 BUSINESSES.

AND SEVERAL CAME IN IN THE LAST DAY IN THE MAIL AND WE HAVE TO PROCESS WHETHER THOSE ARE INDIVIDUAL OR BUSINESSES.

THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU A GENERAL IDEA.

SO WITH THE FIRST BASICALLY FOUR DAYS, WE'VE PROCESSED ABOUT 410 APPLICATIONS. WE ARE AS OF TODAY THANKS TO HR AT FULL STAFFING NOW. SO WE'RE HOPING THE NUMBER WILL PICK UP NOW THAT WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY THERE, THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'VE GOT A FULL GROUP OF PEOPLE SO THAT NUMBER SHOULD PICK UP AS WE GO. SO THAT'S THE INDIVIDUAL AND BUSINESS ASSISTANCE. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> WHEN WILL THE FIRST CHECKS GO OUT?

>> THE FIRST CHECKS WILL GO OUT TOMORROW, TUESDAY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO CUT THEM AND PUT THEM IN THE MAIL.

>> THE PERSONAL APPLICATIONS, WHAT'S THE HIT RATE ON THOSE?

>> I WOULD HAVE TO GET THAT FOR YOU.

WE WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH IF THEY MISSED A PIECE OF INFORMATION, WE RESPOND BACK TO THEM AND TRY TO GET THAT PIECE OF INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN PROCESS THEIR APPLICATION.

SO IT WOULD BE REALLY HARD FOR ME TO SAY THAT THEY'VE BEEN TOTALLY DENIED VERSUS THEY JUST NEED TO DO A LITTLE MORE WORK IF

THAT MAKES SENSE. >> IT'S OVER 50%?

>> OH IT'S OVER 50%, YES, SIR. >> 75%?

>> I'M SURE. AMY'S OUR DEDICATED STAFFER IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE WHO'S HELPING US PROCESS THESE -- WE'RE HAVING A GOOD RESPONSE RATE. IT'S REALLY JUST YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE, YOU HAVEN'T UPDATED YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE TO A CLAY COUNTY ADDRESS. SO THEY UPDATE THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE AND SEND IT IN AND WE FINISH PROCESSING THEIR APPLICATION. HEY I DIDN'T CHECK THE BOX THAT SAYS I LIVE IN CLAY COUNTY, CAN YOU GO BACK AND CHECK THE ANSWERS THAT ARE APPROPRIATE SO WE CAN PROCESS THE APPLICATION

APPROPRIATELY. >> TROY, HAVE YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE APPLICATIONS, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS ARE THERE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT THAT DOESN'T

QUALIFY UNDER YOUR GUIDELINES? >> I THINK THAT'S WHAT COMMISSIONER BOLLA WAS ASKING AND I THINK THEY'RE PROVING IT'S JUST AGAIN GETTING THEM TO SUBMIT THE RIGHT PAPERWORK SO THAT WE CAN APPROVE THEM BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY AND THAT IF WE GET AUDITED THAT WE CHECK THE BOXES AND WE'VE GOT THE RIGHT PAPERWORK.

>> RIGHT. >> SO PART OF THAT THIS MORNING TOO AS WE TALKED TO THE AUDITORS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THE BEST GUIDANCE AND I COMMEND AMY FOR TAKING THE LEAD ON MAKING SURE THAT WE DO THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> WE'VE GOT $1 MILLION -- >> $1 MILLION EARMARKED FOR INDIVIDUALS AND $2 MILLION FOR BUSINESSES AS YOUR PHASE ONE.

>> WE HAVE A LOT MORE PEOPLE >> WE DO.O BUSINESSES.- SO WE MAY HAVE TO ADJUST THAT NUMBER.

AND AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO THE BOARD IF

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>> HAS THERE BEEN ANY INDICATION WE'RE GOING TO BE REIMBURSED?

>> IT IS A REIMBURSABLE EXPENSE. THE STATE IS SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING ON THE DOCUMENTATION WE NEED AFTER WE GET PAST THE $9 MILLION. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THERE'S SOME POTENTIAL CHANGES COMING TO CARES THROUGH CONGRESSIONAL CHANGES. SO I THINK EVERYBODY IS IN A KEEP MOVING FORWARD BUT WAIT AND SEE.

>> WAIT UNTIL NOVEMBER. >> GIVE ME THAT NUMBER BEFORE IN TERMS OF MONEYS THAT HAVE BEEN COMMITTED UP TO THIS POINT, WAS IT 3.8 MILLION OR YOU SAID 4 MILLION?

>> WE'RE ABOUT 4 MILLION BETWEEN PURCHASE ORDERS, WHAT WE'VE COMMITTED ON, THE INDIVIDUAL AND BUSINESSES, THE NON-PROFITS, ALL OF THAT COMBINED WE'RE ABOUT $4 MILLION ROUGHLY THAT WE'VE

COMMITTED OR SPENT. >> WHO KNEW IT WAS SUCH HARD

WORK TO GIVE AWAY MONEY? >> WE'RE WORKING HARD ON IT, SIR. THE SECOND THING WE'VE BEEN ASKED ABOUT THE ATHLETIC ASSOCIATIONS AND WHETHER THEY WOULD APPLY UNDER NON-PROFITS, WHAT WE'VE DONE IN WORKING WITH JAMES HOUSEHOLDER'S TEAM AT THE PARKS AND REC, WE'VE HAD A MEETING WITH THEM LAST WEEK TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO FIND AREAS IN THEIR ASSOCIATIONS THAT NEED IMPROVEMENTS.

PLEXIGLASS ON CONCESSION STANDS. HAVING THEM RECOMMEND AREAS THEY KNOW NEED CHANGES TO HELP PREVENT THE SPREAD OF COVID.

WHETHER IT'S PLEXIGLASS AT THE CONCESSION STANDS OR A CHANGE TO THE DUGOUT OR A DIFFERENT WATER FAUCET, THINGS LIKE THAT TO PROVIDING MATERIALS SUCH AS HAND SANITIZING STATIONS OR A DIFFERENT WAY TO DISTRIBUTE PAPER TOWELS IN THE BATHROOMS. LITTLE THINGS THAT WE CAN CHANGE TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM AND PREVENT THE SPREAD AND THEN THIRD IF THERE'S AN INCREASE IN CALLS FOR SUPPLIES THAT THEY KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE OVER THE NEXT BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER, LET US KNOW WHAT THAT IS SO WE CAN BULK ORDER IT AND PARKS AND REC CAN DISTRIBUTE THAT OUT RATHER THAN TRY TO MANAGE INDIVIDUAL GRANTS TO THE ASSOCIATION THE COUNTY HAS, WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS IT ON WE'LL BUY THE SUPPLIES AND DISTRIBUTE IT OUT SO IT'S ACCOUNTABLE AND A LITTLE EASIER FOR OUR STAFF AND THEIR STAFF.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADING WITH THE ASSOCIATIONS.

DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT?

>> HOW MANY OF THOSE DO WE HAVE? >> HOW MANY ASSOCIATIONS? SEVEN. SEVEN DIFFERENT GROUPS.

AND THEN WE WOULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ORANGE PARK AS PART OF THAT BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF HANDLING THE FUNDING.

AND ORANGE PARK DID MAKE A DIRECT REQUEST.

>> OKAY. >> AND THEN THE LAST THING, IN THE ORIGINAL SPENDING PLAN WE HAD $75,000 SET ASIDE FOR TOURISM EVENTS. TALKING WITH OUR CONSULTANT TRYING TO GIVE MONEY TO ASSIST EVENTS THAT HAPPENED IN CLAY COUNTY OR DID NOT HAPPEN IN CLAY COUNTY IS REALLY HARD TO GET THOSE PARAMETERS RIGHT TO STAY SO THAT WE CAN GUARANTEE THAT WE ARE NOT GIVING OUT MONEY AS REVENUE REPLACEMENT.

SO IN WORKING WITH KIMBERLY MORGAN AND SHE MAY HAVE TO HELP ME WITH SOME OF THIS, WE'VE COME UP WITH KIND OF A PLAN TO USE THAT 265 TO SUPPORT TOURISM BUT KIND OF IN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WAY. THREE DIFFERENT THINGS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT DOING, SAFER EVENT KITS.

SO WE WOULD BUILD KITS THAT HAVE HAND SANITIZING STATIONS, AN EVENT VIDEO TALKING ABOUT CLAY COUNTY.

A DIGITAL EVENT GUIDE SO THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO BE SUCCESSFUL. THEN THOSE KIDS WOULD BE CHECKED OUT THROUGH TOURISM SO THAT IF A FESTIVAL IS COMING TO CLAY COUNTY, WE WOULD TRY TO MAKE THAT AS SUCCESSFUL AS POSSIBLE BY PROVIDING THE STUFF FOR THEM TO RUN THAT EVENT VERSUS THEM HAVING TO BUY IT OR NOT BEING ABLE TO DO THE EVENT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MEET OUR STANDARDS. THAT WOULD BE ONE THING WE WOULD DO. SECOND IS THE FLORIDA RESTAURANT AND LODGING ASSOCIATION, I GOT IT RIGHT, THEY ARE A CERTIFICATION COMMITMENT PROGRAM.

SO THEY'RE GOING OUT AND CERTIFYING RESTAURANTS TO MAKE SURE THEY MEET THE CRITERIA, ARE YOU DOING PROPER SEATING, SOCIAL DISTANCING, ARE YOU WEARING PROPER PPE.

THAT CERTIFICATION PROCESS IS IF THEY'RE NOT A MEMBER, THEN THEY HAVE TO BECOME A MEMBER TO PAY THE FEE.

IT'S NOT $500. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IS RUNNING A PROGRAM THAT IF THEY GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND GET CERTIFIED, WE WILL GIVE THEM 500 OR 750 BASICALLY TO REIMBURSE THEM TO BECOME THIS STANDARD.

AND BY DOING THAT WE CAN PUT THEM ON OUR WEBSITE.

TOURISM COULD HELP MARKET THEM TO SAY THESE ARE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND. THEY'VE GONE AND GOTTEN THE SEAL TO SAY THAT THEY ARE MEETING THIS CRITERIA.

AND THEN THE THIRD ONE WOULD BE TO DO A LOCAL MARKETING

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DID I MISS ANYTHING? ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH THE MONEY WE HAVE SET ASIDE FOR THAT TOURISM SIDE IS MOVE THOSE THREE PROGRAMS. WE THINK BASED ON THE NUMBER THAT WE RAN, WE COULD WORK THAT NUMBER INSIDE THE 265 THAT WE RAN FOR TOURISM.

>> VERY GOOD. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> SOUNDS GOOD. >> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. >> WE'RE AT THE END OF OUR AGENDA. COUNTY ATTORNEY, I THINK YOU HAD

-- >> YES, I HAVE A SPECIAL REQUEST ON BEHALF OF OUR PARKS AND REC. THE YMCA AS YOU KNOW FACILITATES THE POOL AT CAMP CHOW AND AS A RESULT OF SCHOOLS SHIFTING FROM OPENING FROM AUGUST 10TH TO AUGUST 25TH, THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THE POOL OPEN AND OPERATE IT DURING THAT TIME.

IT WILL NOT CAUSE ANY ADDITIONAL FEES FROM THE COUNTY BECAUSE AS YOU'LL RECALL WE ACTUALLY WERE LATE IN OPENING THE POOL AS A RESULT OF COVID. SO THEY WOULD JUST LIKE TO SHIFT IT AND KEEP THE SAME OPERATING HOURS FROM AUGUST 10TH THROUGH THE 24TH. SO IT WILL REQUIRE A WAIVER OF THE PURCHASING POLICY. WE ARE ASKING JUST, WE WILL BRING IT TO YOU AT THE AUGUST 11TH BOARD MEETING.

BUT OBVIOUSLY FOR PLANNING PURPOSES, THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE AHEAD. SO WE WOULD JUST LIKE THE GO AHEAD AND THEN WE'LL BRING YOU THE PAPERWORK AS WE GET IT

PREPARED? >> IS THERE A MOTION?

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE.

>> OPPOSED? THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> IS THAT IT, COUNTY ATTORNEY? COUNTY COMMANDANT, ANYTHING FROM YOU, SIR?

>> JUST AS I GIVE NORMAL TEXT TO YOU ALL ABOUT NUMBERS FOR COVID, BECAUSE THAT STILL IS AMONGST US IN THE COMMUNITY.

2,935 POSITIVES. IT'S PLUS 27 DAY OVER DAY ON THE POSITIVES. THE MEDIAN AGE IS 49.

WE HAD A LITTLE BIT LESS ON THE PERCENTAGE OF POSITIVES.

3.6% OUT OF 457 TESTS AND THEN WE'RE AT 196 THAT ARE HOSPITALIZED TOTAL, ABOUT 77 ARE IN THE HOSPITAL AS OF THIS MORNING'S REPORT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY HERE, THE HOSPITALS THAT ARE HERE. SO THAT'S A PLUS TWO.

AND THEN FINALLY THE NUMBER STILL REMAINS AT 48.

THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE FOR THE REPORT AND PENDING ANY

QUESTIONS. >> ANY COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS?

MR. BOLA? >> NONE.

>> CELLA? HUTCHINGS?

>> JUST CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THE GREAT JOB YOU DID KEEPING THE BUDGET AND THE MILLAGE WHERE IT WAS.

IT'S HARD TIMES FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. BUT IT STILL IS PAINFUL.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT. >> MR. ROLLINS? OKAY. THE ONLY COMMENT, MY FAMILY HAS PRETTY WELL ESCAPED THIS COVID OUTBREAK.

BUT I GOT A CALL THIS MORNING FROM MY COUSIN OVER IN TELLER COUNTY WHERE I COME FROM, SHE PASSED AWAY YESTERDAY.

SHE WAS 77. SHE LIVED A GOOD LIFE, BUT STILL HAD A LOT OF LIFE LEFT IN HER HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THIS PANDEMIC. SO THAT'S THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE. AND WE WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING UNTIL I BELIEVE WE ARE AT TUESDAY, AUGUST 11TH, IS THAT CORRECT, GOOD FOLKS?

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