Jul 28, 2020 BCC Agenda

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GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. IT IS ABOUT THAT TIME, 1600. GOING TO START THIS MEETING AND

[CALL TO ORDER]

I WANT TO ASK COMMISSIONER BOLLA TO GIVE US OUR INVOCATION.

IF YOU WOULDN'T REMIND STANDING, FOR OUR PLEDGE. >> PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS.

GOD OF OUR FATHERS, PLEASE GIVE US THE WISDOM TO KNOW YOUR WILL, AND THE STRENGTH AND COURAGE TO

CARRY IT OUT HERE. AMEN. >> REMAINED STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, IT IS MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE OUR SPECIAL GUEST VETERAN, CARL "C.J." GAUTHIER FROM THE UNITED STATES NAVY. WHICH WE ARE VERY PROUD OF.

A BROTHER, IF YOU WOULD LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF THE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD. INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> SEATS. CARL, DO YOU NEED TO ADDRESS THE AUDIENCE?

>> I APPRECIATE THE BOARD HAVING ME HERE. IT IS ALWAYS AN HONOR TO MAKE MY

PLEDGE TO THE FLAG. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

WE HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL FOR YOU. OUR VETERANS SERVICES OFFICER WILL PRESENT THAT TO YOU. IT SHOULD HAVE EVERYONE'S A SIGNATURE ON THERE.

AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, AS ALWAYS.

JUST A FEW HOUSEKEEPING RULES I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER, PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING.

WE HAD A PRETTY LIBERAL POLICY AS FAR AS THE AUDIENCE COMING UP AND INTERACTING WITH THE COMMISSIONERS. THAT IS FINE. BUT, HERE LATELY, COUPLE OF INSTANCES THAT HAVE GOTTEN OUT OF HAND. TO PROTECT THOSE OF US WHO CAN'T TO PROTECT, WE ARE INSTALLING A CHANGE FLOATS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, TO KEEP US FREE FROM THE PUBLIC. MANY OF YOU, I KNOW, WILL HAVE PRINTED MATERIAL THAT NEEDS TO GET TO US, AND YOU WILL NEED TO FILL OUT CARDS IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK.

WE WILL STILL ACCOMMODATE THAT. INSTEAD OF BRINGING THEM DIRECTLY APPEAR, WE WOULD ASK YOU TO GIVE THEM TO OUR DEPUTY OVER IN THE CORNER, OR HIS STALWART TO A PARTNER, IF YOU GIVE THEM TO THE DEPUTIES THEY WOULD GIVE THEM TO US AND THAT WAY WE'LL KEEP EVERYTHING MOVING ALONG. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? ALL RIGHT.

WITH THAT SAID, WE WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. STARTING OUT IN OUR USUAL

[A MOMENT IN HISTORY]

>> ON THIS DAY IN 1866, THE 14TH AMENDMENT WAS PASSED. THE 14 AMENDMENT GRANTED CITIZENSHIP FOR PERSONS BORN OR NATURALIZED IN THE UNITED STATES, INCLUDING AN FORMALLY ENSLAVED PEOPLE. WAS OFFICIALLY ADOPTED IN THE CONSTITUTION AND THEN IT WENT ON OBVIOUSLY TO THE STATES AND WAS RATIFIED IN 1868. THE 14TH AMENDMENT HAS BEEN EXPANDED OVER TIME, AND EQUAL PROTECTION, AS IT IS A KEY AMENDMENT THAT A LOT OF OTHER PROTECTIONS ARE ADDED UNDER COURT PRECEDENTS SINCE THEN. VERY IMPORTANT AMENDMENT IN OUR

HISTORY. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROLLINS.

AT THIS TIME WE WILL DO OUR ROLL CALL. OBVIOUSLY THOSE I CAN SEE THAT

[ROLL CALL]

[PET ADOPTIONS]

TROY, WHAT YOU HAVE TODAY? >> ALL RIGHT. THIS IS TROY'S FAVORITE PART OF

THE MEETING. 1020 EXACTLY. >> THE FIRST ONE WE HAVE IS HUNTER, A NEUTERED MALE, AUSTRALIAN CATTLE DOG MIX WHO IS FOUR YEARS OLD AND ABOUT 40 POUNDS. HUNTER IS A LAID-BACK BOY THAT LOVES AFFECTION AND GOING ON WALKS. HUNTER IS LOOKING FOR A CALM HOME WITH OLDER CHILDREN.

HE LIKES OTHER DOGS, AND HE IS HOUSE TRAINED. HE IS UP TO DATE ON ALL OF HIS VACCINES AND HIS MICROCHIP TOO. HE IS HEARTWORM POSITIVE. HIS HEARTWORM TREAT IS BEING SPONSORED BY FOCO. NEXT WE HAVE SADIE, SPAYED FEMALE, BOSTON TERRIER MIX.

SIX YEARS OLD, 30 POUNDS. SHE IS A SWEET AND PLAYFUL GIRL THAT HIS DOG FRIENDLY, SHE'S NOT SURE ABOUT CATS. A HOME WITH OLDER CHILDREN MAY BE BEST.

SHE IS UP-TO-DATE ON HER VACCINES AND HIS MICROCHIP. WE HAVE TIKI, A DOMESTIC

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SHE IS UP TO DATE ON HER VACCINES AND HIS MICROCHIP. LAST WE HAVE JOHNNY, WHO IS A NEUTERED MALE. DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR, 10 WEEKS OLD.

JOHNNY LOVES EXPLORING AND HUMAN INTERACTION. HE STILL A KITTEN AND WOULD LIKE A HOME WITH A LOT OF TOYS AND A FAMILY THAT WOULD LIKE TO PLAY. JOHNNY ALSO HAS A SISTER NAMED JUN THAT IS ALSO LOOKING FOR HOME. POSSIBLY TOGETHER.

JOHNNY IS UP TO DATE ON HIS AGE-APPROPRIATE VACCINES AND HIS MICROCHIP.

THERE IS OUR FOSTER INFORMATION IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN FOSTERING TRADE OR IF YOU WOULD

LIKE TO ADOPT TO HAVE CATS AT PETCO AND PET SMART. >> THANK YOU, TROY.

WHO WRITES THESE SCRIPTS FOR THESE BABIES? NOT I, SIR.

[LAUGHTER] >> I KNOW THAT. THEY REALLY TUG AT YOUR HEART.

I WOULD SAY THIS BEFORE, BUT I WILL SAY IT AGAIN. IF YOU LOOK AT SOCIETY, AS A WHOLE. IF YOU SEE HOW SOCIETY TREATS ANIMALS, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH HOW THEY ARE GOING TO TREAT THE PEOPLE. ALWAYS EXCEPTIONS.

IT'S NOT A HARD AND FAST RULE. IT'S A GREAT INDICATOR OF HOW WELL WE TAKE CARE OF OUR ANIMALS IS THE WAY WE WOULD TAKE CARE OF OUR NEGLECTED PEOPLE. THAT SAID, --

>> YOU SEEM TO HAVE AN EYE FOR THIS ONE. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET YOU

THAT ONE. [LAUGHTER] >> PLENTY OF ROOM AT THE SOUTH

40 THERE. >> YEAH. OKAY.

WE WILL MOVE DIRECTLY INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS. IS MR. HARDEN AND HIS ENTOURAGE

ON? I'M SORRY HUNTINGTON. >> APPROVAL OF MINUTES?

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

>> SAY AGAIN. >> MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> JUST IN A HURRY TO MOVE RIGHT ALONG, TROY. WE WILL CONTINUE ON.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

THEY HAVE SOME PRETTY IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR THE COUNTY IN REGARDS TO WASTE DISPOSAL.

MOVING ON, I HAVE CARDS FROM MS. YOU WANT TO COME ON UP. THE MICROPHONE IS YOURS, YOU

HAVE THREE MINUTES, MY LADY. >> THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS PAM BRAWLS, I LIVE A- >> PULL IT DOWN CLOSER TO YOUR MOUTH.

>> I LIVE AT 6337 ANTLERS RUN DRIVE. THIS IS IN THE CLAY HILL AREA.

I AM SPEAKING FOR THE 150,000 WIVES WHO DO NOT HAVE A VOICE ANYMORE.

THEY ARE DEAD FROM COVID-19. I AM BEGGING THIS BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS TO MANDATE A FACEMASK ORDER FOR CLAY COUNTY GREAT I REALIZE THAT YOUR JURISDICTION WILL ONLY BE EFFECTIVE FOR THE UNINCORPORATED PARTS OF CLAY COUNTY. IT IS A START.

WE WILL GIVE TEETH TO THE GROWING LIST OF RETAILERS WHO ARE DOING THEIR BEST TO PROTECT THEIR CUSTOMERS, US, FROM THE DEADLY COVID-19 BY MAKING STORE POLICY OF WEARING A FACEMASK TO BE EFFECTIVE. I WAS IN WALMART LAST FRIDAY, AND THE BAKERY PRODUCE AREA, AND THERE WERE TWO WOMEN SHOPPING. ONE WAS COUGHING ALL OVER THE BAKED GOODS, AND THE PRODUCE, NOT WEARING A MASK. NOT EVEN BOTHERING TO COUGH INTO THE CROOK OF HER ARM, OR COVER HER FACE WITH A HAND, OR KLEENEX, JUST OPENLY COUGHING. I GOT WITHIN ABOUT 10 FEET OF HER, AND I ASK, WHY ARE YOU NOT WEARING A MASK? SHE JUST WAVED ME AWAY LIKE SHE WAS DISMISSING ME, SAYING DON'T WORRY ABOUT ME. JUST DON'T WORRY ABOUT ME.

SHE KEPT DISMISSING ME. I SAID, I AM WORRIED ABOUT YOU. BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT FOR YOUR WELFARE, IT IS WHAT YOU ARE COUGHING INTO THE AIR. IT IS HOW YOU ARE CONDEMNING TO -- CONTAMINATING EVERYBODY, AND EVERYTHING ALL YOUR COUGH DROPLETS AND WEAR THEIR LANDING.

I WENT TO A STORE MANAGER, I TOLD HIM ABOUT THIS INCIDENT. I KNEW WALMART HAD A FACEMASK POLICY. HE SAID, ALTHOUGH THE STORE DOES HAVE A FACEMASK POLICY, HE CAN'T ENFORCE IT, BECAUSE THERE IS NOT A LEGISLATIVE MANDATE, LIKE A MAYOR'S ORDER, A BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS ORDER TO BACK UP THEIR STORE POLICY. I GOT BASICALLY THE SAME REPLY

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THERE IS NOT A LEGISLATIVE, OR GOVERNMENT MANDATE TO HELP THEM ENFORCE THE POLICY.

I AM ASKING THIS BOARD TO TAKE THE ACTION TO BRING A FACEMASK WEARING ORDER TO A VOTE.

WILL THERE BE THOSE THAT ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE A FACEMASK ORDER? SURE.

IF WE EVER WANT TO GET OUR COVID-19 NUMBERS DOWN, INFECTIONS AND DEATHS, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE THE ONE EFFECTIVE MEASURE THAT EVERY HEALTH OFFICIAL, EVERY DR., EVERY NURSE, EVERY HEALTH EXPERT IN THIS COUNTRY IS STATING, WE MUST WEAR A MASK.

IS THIS GOING TO BE POPULAR AND EASY MANDATE? NO.

NEITHER IS DYING.

THE ABILITY TO FORCE A FACE WEARING POLICY. NOBODY MADE A GREATER MISTAKE THAN HE WHO DID NOTHING BECAUSE HE COULD ONLY -- THINKS HE CAN ONLY DO A LITTLE AND THAT THE ONLY THING NECESSARY FOR THE TRIUMPH OF EVIL IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING.

WE ARE IN CRISIS MODE IN FLORIDA IF YOU COMPARE THE INFECTION -- >> WIND IT UP PLEASE.

>> THE INFECTION TO DEATH RATE IN FLORIDA, DO FALL COUNTY IS 6%.

ORANGE COUNTY, ORLANDO IS, IS 6.5%. MIAMI IS 14%.

THE INFECTION TO DEATH RATE FOR CLAY COUNTY IS 19%. 19%.

19% THAT WE ARE DYING. I CAN'T MAKE A VACCINE COME I CANNOT DO RESEARCH.

I'M NOT A DOCTOR AND NOT A NURSE. THERE IS ONE THING I CAN DO TO HELP OURSELVES, AND EACH OTHER. I CAN WEAR A MASK. ONE THING THAT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE. WE CAN ALL MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND BRING OUR NUMBERS DOWN, IF WE WILL JUST HELP OURSELVES AND HELP EACH OTHER. I AM BEGGING THIS BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS TO COME TO A VOTE WHETHER IT IS TONIGHT, OR SOMETIME, VERY SOON FOR A FACEMASK WEARING ORDER TO BE IN PLACE. I WANT TO LIVE.

DO YOU? >> THANK YOU. YOU'RE GOING TO WAIT TILL LAST? WHY DO I HAVE YOU ON THE AGENDA? OKAY. [LAUGHTER]

>> MY NAME IS ALAN RIZZO. KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. IN IN FRONT OF YOU, HANDED OUT PACKETS TO ALL OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, THE COUNTY MANAGER AND THE ATTORNEY.

THE AGENDA WANT TO BRING UP IS THE OUTDOOR RANGE, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TRAINING COMPLEX.

IN FRONT OF YOU I'VE GOT THE SHORT PRESENTATION. SO, DON'T EXPECT THIS TO, YOU KNOW, GET ADDRESSED IN COMPLETION THIS EVENING, OR WHATEVER.

I JUST WANTED TO PRESENT THIS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ALL OF MY CONTACT INFORMATION IS IN THE PACKET AS WELL. SO, I JUST WANT TO FLIP THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK IF YOU DON'T MIND. SOME OF THE ISSUES, AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO READ THIS VERBATIM.

I WILL LEAVE THIS TO YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT AT YOUR OWN DISCRETION. BUT IN 2017, THERE WAS A LAND PURCHASED WITH THE INTENT TO BE UTILIZED AS A SHERIFF'S OFFICE RANGE FACILITY OR TRAINING COMPLEX. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT A PORTION OF THAT WAS TO BE SET ASIDE FOR PUBLIC USE AS WELL. WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS A PUBLIC/PRIVATE VENTURE TO SUMMARIZE EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW. THERE HAS BEEN BASICALLY NOTHING DONE WITH ATLANTA SINCE IT WAS PURCHASED. SO, WE WOULD APPROACH THIS IN A PHASED PROGRESSION.

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UTILIZE THE PROCEEDS FROM THAT TO HELP THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE RANGE COMPLEX.

WITH THE UNDERSTANDING AS THE PUBLIC RANGE IS BEING DEVELOPED ONCE HE GETS TO USABLE STATE.

CURRENTLY UM, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS SPENDING MONEY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE. THEY ARE UTILIZING OTHER TRAINING FACILITIES.

[INAUDIBLE] IT IS LONG OVERDUE FOR THEY HAVE A FACILITY OF THEIR OWN.

SO, PENDING ANY QUESTIONS I'M GOING TO KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO LEAVE THIS WITH YOU. THE PRESENTATION, WITH A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

SOME LETTERS OF RECOMMENDATIONS. THERE IS RESUMES FROM MYSELF AND SOME OF MY INSTRUCTORS THAT WERE UTILIZED. BY APPROACHING THIS IN A PUBLIC/PRIVATE VENTURE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GAIN SOME TRACTION TO MOVE THIS THING ALONG PRETTY QUICKLY.

PENDING ANY QUESTIONS, AGAIN, THAT IS WHAT I HAVE. >> WHAT KIND OF TIMEFRAME ARE

YOU LOOKING AT TO GET THIS OFF THE GROUND? >> AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE I'M SURE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITHIN 30 DAYS.

>> I MEAN, TO FINISH THE PROJECT SO PEOPLE CAN START USING IT? >> THE PUBLIC PORTION OF IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR USE BASICALLY AS LONG AS IT TAKES TO GET SOME BERMS PUSHED UP AND ALL SAFETY MEASURES IN PLACE. PROBABLY, I WOULD SAY REALISTIC WITHIN SIX MONTHS.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, COMING TO SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT WITH A LONG TERM LEASE.

TALKING ABOUT A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR FACILITY. I UNDERSTAND.

[INAUDIBLE] WE CAN ADDRESS IT. >> IS THIS CARE ACT FUNDING ELIGIBLE? [LAUGHTER] PROBABLY NOT.

>> I LIKE THE IDEA. WE'VE HAD THAT ASSET SITTING THERE FOR A LONG TIME.

CARRY THIS TO THE NEXT STEP AND HAVE A SERIOUS DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.

1020 AGREE. I THINK THE COUNTY MANAGER SHOULD TAKE FROM HERE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE GOING TO BE AND MAY GET SOME MORE INFORMATION SET UP.

I DEFINITELY THINK IT IS WORTHWHILE TO PURSUE. >> ARE YOU STAYING IN CONTACT WITH JAMES HOUSEHOLD? I THINK HE IS THE POINT MAN ON THIS AS FAR AS THE SPECIFICS?

>> WE TOUCH BASE WITH HIM. THERE WASN'T ANY DEVELOPMENT AS FAR AS ENGINEERING.

HE SHOWED US AN ART GIS A PRINTOUT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF STUFF THAT WAS SKETCHED ON THERE. I MEAN, NOT TRYING TO RAIN ON ANYBODY'S PARADE OR ANYTHING.

THE STUFF THAT WAS ON THEIR I DON'T THINK THAT WAS DONE BY ANYBODY PROFESSIONAL.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS I SAW THAT WERE WRONG WITH THE SKETCH THAT WAS ON THAT OVERLY.

RANGE ORIENTATION, THE LOCATION AND A LOT OF OTHER STUFF. OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD WANT TO DEVELOP THIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE FUTURE PLANS OF THE COUNTY I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A PORTION OF THAT, ROUGHLY 200 ACRES THAT NEEDS TO BE SET ASIDE FOR A SAFETY FACILITY, OR SOMETHING

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WE UNDERSTAND WHAT EXACTLY WE WOULD BE WORKING WITH. >> WE WILL BRING PROFESSIONALS IN IN CONJUNCTION WITH INPUT FROM THE CLAY COUNTY SHERIFF OFFICE AND WHAT THEY HAD IN MIND. OR THE COMMISSION HAS ANSWERS ON WANT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAD IN MIND FOR A LONG RANGE FACILITY AND TRAINING COMPLEX. WE WOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND GET ALL OF THAT STUFF DEVELOPED TO PRESENT IT TO THE BOARD, MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS HAPPY WITH THE LAYOUT AND THE WAY HEAD. AND THEN COME OUT WITH A SCHEDULE PROGRESSION OR WHATEVER AS FAR AS PHRASES AND RUN TIMELINES AND WHAT WE EXPECT WITH THOSE PHASES. ADDITIONALLY WE HAVE SOME INTEREST IN SOME FEDERAL LAW-ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THAT WOULD POSSIBLY BE INTERESTED IN HANGING THE FLAG THERE.

POSSIBLY PUTTING SOME GOVERNMENT MONEY TOWARDS IT WITH AGAIN, LONG TERM SUBLEASE.

THAT IS AN OPTION, AS WELL. >> DO YOU THINK GIVEN YOUR EXPERIENCE THAT THIS RANGE COULD EVER BECOME EITHER MONEYMAKING POSSIBILITY, OR AT LEAST BREAK EVEN COUNTY?

>> ABSOLUTELY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING RANGE FACILITIES HERE.

THEY ARE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR A YEAR. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, HAVE A TEXT MESSAGE FROM WASTE MANAGEMENT. THEY HAVE BEEN ON HOLD AND THEY HAVE TO LEAVE IT FOR 30:00.

YOU THINK WE CAN PLUG THEM IN REAL QUICK AND COME BACK TO THIS >> OKAY.

AL, ANYTHING ELSE? ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? >> GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. WE WORKED WITH YOU GUYS IN THE PAST BEFORE ON DIFFERENT THINGS.

WE'RE GOING TO BRING THAT SAME COMMITMENT THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST INTO THIS PROJECT AS WELL.

I THINK BY DOING THAT, WE CAN TAKE THE LION SHARE OF THE COST OF THE COUNTY AND PUT IT INTO PRIVATE CORPORATION HERE THAT THEY CAN WORK HAND-IN-HAND TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

THAT IS OUR GOAL. I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE PHONE CALLS HOLDING, WE WERE NOT TAKE YOUR TIME. WE APPRECIATE IT. WE WANT TO PRESENT A CHEAPER IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, OR CONTACT INFORMATION IS IN THERE. PLEASE REACH OUT TO US AND WE WOULD BE MORE THAN GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

THANK YOU. >> JUST QUICKLY, FOR THE COMMISSION.

THERE ARE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS FOR A PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE WOULD NEED TO COMPLY WITH. I CAN GET WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.

BEFORE MOVING FORWARD. >> THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE GREG HUNTINGTON FROM A WASTE DISPOSAL. I'M SORRY ADVANCED DISPOSAL ONLINE.

MR. HUNTINGTON, ARE YOU THERE? >> HELLO? >> THIS IS GREAT HUNTINGTON.

>> GREG, CAN YOU HEAR US? >> YES, I CAN HEAR YOU. THIS IS GREAT HUNTINGTON.

CAN YOU HEAR ME. >> I CAN. GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU FOR A BRIEF MOMENT. AS ALWAYS I LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT ADVANCED DISPOSAL HIGHLY VALUES THE PARTNERSHIP IT SHARES WITH CLAY COUNTY BY PROVIDING THESE CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES TO EACH OF YOUR RESIDENCE. THE REASON WE HAVE TO SPEAK IN PUBLIC COMMENTS WAS WE WERE MADE AWARE THAT DURING THE LAST FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING THAT SOME RESIDENTS VOICED DIFFERENT CONCERNS ABOUT US SUSPENDING RECYCLING SERVICES FOR NINE DAYS. WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH THE BOARD WHAT OUR OPERATION IN GREEN COVE SPRINGS HAS HAD TO DEAL WITH FOR THE PAST 18 WEEKS, AS IT RELATES TO THE EFFECTS OF THIS NATURAL DISASTER AND OUR ABILITY TO DO OUR JOB FOR THE COUNTY. SINCE THE PANDEMIC BECAME A REALITY FOR ALL OF US IN MARCH, ADVANCED DISPOSAL PURPOSED TO REACH OUT TO ALL OF ITS MUNICIPAL PARTNERS TO DISCUSS POTENTIAL REACTION PLANS IF THE VIRUS TOOK A TOLL ON OUR WORKFORCE.

PART OF THOSE PLANS INCLUDE SUSPENDING CERTAIN COLLECTION SERVICES SUCH AS YARD WASTE AND RECYCLING. OBVIOUSLY TRASH IS ALWAYS A PRIORITY TO GET PICKED UP IN A TIMELY FASHION. WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT IN THE COUNTY.

IN MARCH, OUR TEAM MET WITH COUNTY OFFICIALS UNDECIDED IF WE GOT TO A PLACE WHERE WE HAD TO SUSPEND A SERVICE THEN RECYCLING WILL BE SUSPENDED. THE IDEA OF SUSPENDING YARD

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RECYCLING CAN ALSO BE TAKEN TO CONVENIENT CENTERS AND DROPPED OFF HER FREE.

SINCE AT THE STAY AT STAY-AT-HOME ORDERS WERE ISSUED IN MARCH, WE HAVE EXPERIENCED A MAJOR INCREASE IN OUR COLLECTION ACROSS THE BOARD FOR TRASH, RECYCLING, AND YARD WASTE.

WE HAVE MOVED HEAVEN AND EARTH TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE EXCELLENT SERVICE TO THE RESIDENCE OF CLAY COUNTY AND NOT FALL BEHIND IN ANY LINES OF COLLECTION. WE'VE EVEN BROUGHT IN RESOURCES FROM SURROUNDING OPERATIONS TO HELP. ALL OF THESE EFFORTS HAVE GREATLY INCREASED OUR OPERATIONAL COSTS WITH NATHAN, WHO HE WAS SPEETWO IN A MOMENT.

HOWEVER, RECENTLY OUR WORKFORCE WAS DIMINISHED BY EMPLOYEES TESTING POSITIVE FOR THE VIRUS RIGHT NOT TO MENTION YOUR NORMAL CALL OUTS DUE TO WORKMAN COMP SITUATIONS AND FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE. WE HAD TO MAKE THE DECISION TO SUSPEND RECYCLING FOR NINE DAYS TO GET OUR LEGS BACK UNDERNEATH OF US. I WOULD LIKE TO LET NATHAN SPEAK TO SOME OF THE DETAILS AND THE HURDLES HIS OPERATION HAS HAD TO OVERCOME AND THE COST ASSOCIATED

WITH THEM. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS NATHAN DEAS, GENERAL MANAGER HERE ADVANCED DISPOSAL IN CLAY COUNTY. SINCE MARCH 26, OUR OFFICE HAS PLACED AN ADDITIONAL 6-8 TRUCKS IN THE FIELD TO COLLECT EXCESS HOUSEHOLD GARBAGE THAT IS BEING PLACE CURBSIDE. JUST A ALONE IN APRIL, WE HAVE COLLECTED OVER 1300 TONS MORE GARBAGE THAN WE DID IN APRIL THE 19. THIS IS A DIRECT CORRELATION WITH THE STAY-AT-HOME ORDER PUT IN PLACE ON APRIL 3. OUR NUMBER ONE GOAL HERE AT ADVANCED DISPOSAL IS TO PROVIDE THE UTMOST SERVICE TO THE RESIDENCE OF CLAY COUNTY.

OVER THE PAST 20 WEEKS, THIS IS CONSISTED OF A FEW THINGS. NUMBER ONE, PUTTING MANAGERS ON ROUTES TO COLLECT EXCESS GARBAGE. NUMBER TWO, SPENDING OVER $20,000 IN OUTSIDE HELP ACROSS 12 WEEKS. NUMBER THREE, PULLING COMMERCIAL DRIVERS TO RUN RESIDENTIAL ROUTES WITHIN THE COUNTY AND ALL WHILE QUICKLY IDENTIFYING POTENTIAL COVID-19 CASES HERE AT OUR OFFICE AND MOVING THEM FROM OTHER EMPLOYEES TO PREVENT THE SPREAD. PER OUR CONTRACT, ADDING SIX ROUTES DUE TO COVID-19 COULD RESULT IN DISASTER RELIEF AMOUNT OF ABOUT 16T $5000. THIS IS CALCULATOR BY TAKING SIX ROUTES PER WEEK AND MULTIPLYING THEM BY ABOUT $1600, STATED IN THE CONTRACT FOR 12 WEEKS.

WE HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF ASKING FOR THIS FINANCIAL RELIEF. WE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL WITH THESE STRATEGIES UP UNTIL JULY 21. AT THAT POINT, WE NO LONGER HAD THE PERSON HOW TO KEEP UP WITH THE CURBSIDE COLLECTION. WE NOTIFIED MILTON TOWNSEND AND HOWARD WANAMAKER ON JULY 20, THEY AGREED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR PLAN THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE BACK IN MARCH WHICH WAS SUSPENDING CURBSIDE RECYCLING COLLECTION.

OUR OPERATIONS CAME DOING ALL WE CAN TO GET BACK TO NORMAL OPERATING PROCEDURES.

WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT THE COUNTY WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH US AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE DOING ALL WE CAN TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF CLAY COUNTY AND CONTINUE TO GROW THIS RELATIONSHIP. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT FOR GREG OR MYSELF?

>> GREG, I THINK YOU SAID, AND I MAY HAVE MISSED IT. WHEN WILL RECYCLING START UP

AGAIN? >> OUR PLAN IS TO SIT DOWN WITH MR. WANAMAKER AND MR. TOWNES AND WE ARE GOIN TO REEVALUATE THAT ON THURSDAY. CURRENTLY WE HAVE HAD TO OF OUR EMPLOYEES RETURN TO WORK AFTER TESTING NEGATIVE, OKAY. TAKE OUT THEIR POSITIVE RESULTS, THEY WERE OUT A COUPLE OF DAYS. THEY TOOK ANOTHER TEST AND THEY ARE NEGATIVE.

WE ARE WORKING ON GETTING SOME OUT OF OF TOWN HELP HERE NEXT WEEK.

AND, OUR EMPLOYEES RETURNING. OUR GOAL IS ON MONDAY. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? >> GENTLEMEN, WE THANK YOU.

CONTINUE TO COLLECT TRASH. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO BREAK RANK, SORRY. TRY WAS GOING TO CONTINUE ON, HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE GUN RANGE. IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS.

I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA. WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER PARTNERSHIPS WHERE THEY ARE USING COUNTY PROPERTY AND GETTING IT GOING. SOMETIMES THE GOVERNMENT TAKES TIME TO GET THINGS GOING EXCEPT FOR THE CARES ACT. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPTION.

ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE GOING TO STAFF IT. THE QUESTIONS I HAVE, HOW ARE

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THAT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? >> LET ME PULL THE STATUE. UM I KNOW WE WERE LOOKING AT IT FOR UM A PROJECT WITH THE TDC. AND UM WHAT I RECALL IS IF YOU HAVE UM A PRIVATE SECTOR BRINGING YOUR PROPOSAL THEN WE CAN FORMULATE THAT PROPOSAL. BUT THEN WE HAVE TO PUT IT OUT FOR BID FOR OTHERS. SO UM LET ME LOOK AT THE PROCEDURE, AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT THE STATUTE REQUIRES. I CAN GET WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER.

AND THEN UM WITHIN THAT FRAMEWORK I BELIEVE WE WOULD BE REACH OUT TO THOSE REPRESENTATIVES, DEVELOP THE PROPOSAL AND I BELIEVE WE WOULD BRING IT BACK TO YOU AND THEN

WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY SUBMIT OUT THE RFP FOR THE PROJECT. >> UM OBVIOUSLY, A GREAT IDEA ON A PUBLIC/PRIVATE VENTURE. LOOKING AT THIS MOVING AHEAD WITH REGARDS TO THE DESIGN.

IT HAS TO START WITH A PROPER DESIGN, SO THAT IT IS MIXED PHYSICALLY BOTH PUBLIC AND THESE OTHER AGENCIES THAT MR. RIZZO TALKED ABOUT. IT IS AN ENGINEERING DESIGN RIGHT NOW, SO IT IS OUT FOR THAT FINE DESIGN AND PROPOSAL. I DIDN'T WANT TO YOU ALL TO THINK, YOU KNOW, WE ARE SITTING HERE WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, CRAYONS AND IT WAS A DRAWN PICTURE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT IS OUT FOR DESIGN. AGAIN.

WHATEVER PRIVATE AGENCY WOULD COME INTO PARTNER WITH US. THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW. HOW WOULD WE STAFF IT. HOW WOULD THESE BE.

HOW WOULD OUR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT BE ABLE TO USE THAT WHOLESALE.

THOSE ARE SOME OF THE BIG THINGS TO MOVE AHEAD. REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY. I WOULD JUST SAY, IF WE CAN GET CURRENCY FROM THE BOARD TO MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION. I WILL GET WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND WE WILL MOVE

FORWARD WITH THAT. >> YEAH, VERY GOOD. SO, YOU'RE GOING TO WORK ON THE

COURSE OF ACTION IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY? >> YES, SIR.

>> CAN YOU HAVE IT BACK TO US IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS? >> YES, SIR.

BY THE NEXT BOARD WE WILL HAVE WHAT WE NEED TO DO. UM I WILL TALK TO PURCHASING WITH REGARDS TO AN RFP AND I WILL GIVE YOU A TIMELINE ON HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO GET THAT

OUT IN THE TIMELINE PROCESS FOR THAT. >> GOOD.

>> I SEE THIS AS A WORLD CLASS SHOOTING PARK, MORE THAN I DO AN INSTITUTIONAL FACILITY FOR JUST LAW ENFORCEMENT, OKAY? I THINK WE CAN BLEND THE TWO. DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT

THAT THE PUBLIC GETS TO USE THIS THING EXTENSIVELY, OKAY? >> S, SIR.

I HEARD THAT LOUD AND CLEAR IN ALL OF THE DISCUSSIONS. >> I THINK IT'S VERY TIMELY WITH ARMS SALES INCREASING GREATLY. THERE IS A NEED FOR THE PUBLIC TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, AND A WAY TO BE TRAINED ON THAT SO THEY CAN DEFEND THEIR FAMILY. I THINK IT'S PERFECT TIMING

RIGHT THERE WITH CAMP BLANEY, CAN BE A GREAT WIN-WIN. >> A LOT OF PEOPLE GET THEIR CARRY PERMITS AND THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO LOAD THEIR GUNS.

THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO CARRY THE TRAINING TO THE NEXT STEP. WHERE PEOPLE ARE MORE

RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR FIREARMS. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> BEING COLOCATED WITH CAMP LANEY, THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTEGRATE MILITARY PROGRAMS INTO THAT AND

IT WILL BE A BENEFIT FOR BOTH ORGANIZATIONS. >> WE MAY EVEN LOOK AT SUBSIDIZING SOME OF THE TRAINING SCHOOL INCOME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, FROM THE COUNTY.

I DON'T HOW THAT WOULD WORK. WHAT I WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN IS US JUST THROW OUR HANDS UP AND WALK AWAY FROM THIS THING AFTER WE GIVE IT AWAY FOR A BUCK.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GET SOME USE OUT OF IT FOR THE PUBLIC. >> WE WILL HAVE ONE OPPORTUNITY

OF MAKING THIS RIGHT. >> I BIT WE KNOW SOMEBODY THAT CAN GET THE NRA TO GIVE US A

GRANTS FOR LESSONS. >> I'M SURE NRA WOULD BE INTERESTED.

>> YEP. >> ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE BOARD BEFORE WE MOVE ON? LAST MEETING WE HEARD FROM OUR CONSTITUTIONAL'S IN REGARD TO BUDGET.

WHAT? NO. I GOT YOU ON THE LIST.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> WE HEARD FROM ALL OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL'S WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OUR APPRAISER. I THINK HE WAS SICK OR OUT OF TOWN, I FORGET WHICH.

ROGERS WITH WITH US TODAY. IF YOU WANT TO COME ON UP AND ADDRESS YOUR BUDGET REQUESTS, SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I DO APOLOGIZE TO ALL OF THE

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LET ME JUST TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, I GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON COVID-19 AND THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE. ON MARCH 18, WE CLOSED OUR ORANGE PARK OFFICE, AND WE CLOSE THE OFFICE HERE IN GREEN COMPANY TO WALK IN TRAFFIC. WE REOPENED THE OFFICE HERE IN GREEN COVE TO WALK IN TRAFFIC ON MAY 18, AND WE WILL REOPEN THE ORANGE PARK OFFICE JUST AS SOON AS WE CAN GET THE PROTECTIVE GLASS PUT UP AT OUR FRONT COUNTERS.

THE VENDOR SAID IT SHOULD BE SOMETIME IN AUGUST WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THAT DONE.

THE 2020 PRELIMINARY TAX ROLL WAS APPROVED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE JUST BEFORE I CAME TO THE MEETING TODAY. THAT TAX ROLL HAS ABOUT A 52 MILLION-DOLLAR TAXABLE VALUE INCREASE. OF THAT A 52 MILLION, ABOUT $234 MILLION OF THAT WAS NEW CONSTRUCTION. 2020 REPRESENTS THE EIGHTH YEAR IN A ROW THAT THE TAX ROLL HAS ACTUALLY INCREASED AND TAXABLE VALUE FOLLOWING FIVE YEARS OF DOWNTURN FROM 2008-2012.

THIS INCREASE OF A 52 MILLION IS THE LARGEST INCREASE WE HAVE HAD IN A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME. EACH YEAR, THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE PRODUCES AN ANNUAL REPORT. WE PROVIDE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ON THE COUNTY MANAGER WITH A HARD COPY OF THAT REPORT. IT HAS BEEN PASSED OUT TO ALL OF YOU TODAY. WE HAVE CHANGED THE FORMAT A LITTLE BIT.

IT WAS A VERY HEAVY TABULAR TYPE REPORTS BEFORE. WE HAVE GONE TO MORE GRAPHICALLY. IT IS MEASURING ALL OF THE SAME THINGS THAT THE OLD REPORTS MEASURED. IT IS JUST DOING IT IN A MORE VISUAL WAY.

I HOPE YOU APPRECIATE ITS PREY I HOPE YOU GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT.

AS MUCH AS YOU CAN GET OUT OF PROPERTY TAX. IT IS GOOD STUFF.

[LAUGHTER] PUT IT NEXT TO YOUR BED AT NIGHT.

IT WILL HELP YOU OUT. THE ANNUAL BUDGET; THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE HAS TO SUBMIT OUR BUDGET TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE EACH YEAR ON OR BEFORE JUNE 1.

THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ARE GIVEN A COPY OF THAT SUBMISSION ON JUNE 1 AS WELL. THE JUNE 1 SUBMISSION THAT I MADE TO THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE REFLECTED AN OVERALL DECREASE IN MY BUDGET OF $546, FROM LAST YEAR.

WE ARE ACTUALLY COMING IN THIS YEAR AT A DECREASE. THAT WAS ON JUNE 1.

ON JULY 1, THE GOVERNOR SIGNED THE BILL THAT HAD THE NEW RETIREMENT RATES IN IT.

SO, THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE HAS AMENDED MY BUDGET THAT I SENT ON JUNE 1ST, AND IT HAS PROVIDED BACK TO MY OFFICE, AND A COPY TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WITH A $29,400 INCREASE BECAUSE THE NEW RETIREMENT AND RATES INCREASE MY BUDGET OVER $30,000.

WE ARE NOW SITTING AT A LITTLE OVER 29,000-DOLLAR INCREASE IN OUR ANNUAL BUDGET, OR 1.01% INCREASE. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT TODAY, AS FAR AS THE BUDGET.

AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO TELL YOU THAT TWO WEEKS AGO.

>> QUESTIONS? >> I WOULD LIKE TO COMPLIMENT ROGER ONGOING WITH A NEW FORMAT.

IT LOOKS GREAT. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME WE WILL HEAR FROM ROGER AS FAR AS AN ANNUAL REPORT , HE'S HEADING OFF PROBABLY LOOKING FOR A FISHING

POLE WHICH PROBABLY MATCHES THE REPORT, AND AND SHINY. >> AT FUNNY AS YOU SAY THAT.

AS SOON AS I LEAVE HERE AND GETTING MY FISHING POLE MY GRANDSON AND WE ARE GOING TO

FISH. >> THAT'S GOOD. >> THINK YOU ROGER.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TO THE COUNTY AND WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO IN THE APPRAISER'S OFFICE AND KEEPING TRACK OF VERY IMPORTANT NUMBER FOR ALL OF US.

>> APPRECIATED. ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE.

I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD. YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY GOOD TO WORK WITH.

THIS IS ABOUT 30 YEARS THAT I'VE HAD IN THE OFFICE, ALMOST 12 AS THE ELECTED OFFICIAL.

WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY ISSUE WITH THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

IT HAS BEEN A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP. I THINK EACH AND EVERY ONE YOU.

ESPECIALLY THE NEW COUNTY MANAGER. VERY GOOD COUNTY MANAGER.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, ROGER. WE APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK.

MS. HEATHER HUFFMAN? WITH JOHN WARD ON DECK. >> AS PROMISED, I PROMISED

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WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THOSE ARE HELPFUL TO YOU. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANY TWEAKS TO THAT DATA? SO YOU CAN HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS? IF YOU HAVE ANY TWEAKS OR ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE. I HAVE PRINTED OFF THE DATA, AS OF TODAY. WE CAN GO OVER THAT SO YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE AT.

WE HAD BEEN SEEING A PLATEAUING EFFECT WHICH IS VERY GOOD NEWS FOR US.

AND THEN THE LAST FEW DAYS YOU WILL SEE THAT WE ARE IN THE 30S FOR A NUMBER OF CASES BEING REPORTED VERSES IN THE HUNDREDS, THAT IS VERY HOPEFUL TO US.

THE MEDIAN AGE HAS CREEPED UP JUST A LITTLE BIT. WE ARE IN THE LOW 40S.

THE MEDIAN AGE OVERALL STILL HAS REMAINED AROUND 43. OUR MORTALITY RATE HAS STILL REMAINED AROUND 2%, NOT 19% AS IT WAS STATED EARLIER. I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT YOU. WE HAVE HAD 47 TOTAL DESPERADOS HAVE ALL BEEN IMPACTFUL TO OUR COMMUNITY. MOST OF THOSE HAVE BEEN IN THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE BEEN ELDERLY FROM LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES. UM ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE DATA SHEET THAT I GAVE YOU WAS A POSITIVITY RATE. AS YOU CAN SEE UM, ON MEMORIAL DAY AND FOURTH OF JULY, THEY WERE NOT KIND TO US RELATED TO COVID-19.

PEOPLE GATHERED THAT HAD NOT BEEN AROUND EACH OTHER AND HAD A LOT OF EXPOSURES.

WHAT WE TEND TO SEE IS A WEEK AFTERWARDS, WE START SEEING SYMPTOMATIC.

BUT YOU ALSO SEE THOSE SPREADS UM OF THE DISEASE. AND THEN REMEMBER DEATH IS A LAGGING INDICATOR. AFTER YOU SEE CASES RISE IN AN EXPONENTIAL FORMAT FOR A PROLONGED. HE WAS SEE TWO WEEKS LATER THE DEATHS THEN FOLLOW THAT.

WE FARED FAIRLY WELL WITH THAT FROM MEMORIAL DAY AND FOURTH OF JULY.

ANY DEATH IS NOT A GOOD SITUATION. THE POSITIVITY RATES OVER THE LAST WEEK HAS BEEN BELOW 10%. AS YOU CAN SEE, AS OF THIS MORNING WAS 7.1.

WE ARE DOING FAIRLY WELL WITH THAT. OUR COUNTERPART TO THE NORTH IS STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT. IN THAT LAST SECTION IS OUR CHIEF COMPLAINT WHERE THEY CODE THOSE TYPE OF REASONS THAT INDIVIDUALS ARE COMING INTO THE EMERGENCY ROOM.

WE HAVE BEEN SEEN FOR A WHILE THERE, THOSE MAJOR ANTIQUE -- UPTICKS.

LOOKING AT THOSE SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS. AND THEN WE STARTED EVENTUALLY HITTING A DOWNWARD TREND. THAT IS GOOD NEWS, THAT IS TELLING US, THE SICKEST OF THE SICK, WE ARE NOT SEEN THAT GOING ON. WE CONTINUE TO DO WEEKLY CALLS WITH THE HOSPITALS EVERY FRIDAY. WE LOOK AT THEIR SEARCH PATTERNS.

LOOKING AT THEIR HOSPITALIZATIONS. I GET THAT DATA DAILY IN THE EVENING TIME. I BELIEVE AS OF LAST NIGHT. I THINK IT WAS AROUND 84 OR 85 INDIVIDUALS WERE COVID-19. SEVEN OR EIGHT WHERE I SEE YOU. A VERY SMALL PROPORTION COMPARED TO WHAT YOU SAW IN MARCH WHICH WAS ALMOST A FLIPPED PRESENTATION.

UM OUR HOSPITALS ARE DOING WELL. UM WE HAD HICCUPS GETTING PEOPLE DISCHARGED AND LOOKING AT SOME DISCHARGE PLANNING. WE BEEN WORKING WITH THE STATE LEVEL FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. THEY HAVE SET UP A PLACEMENT MOVEMENT BRANCH NOW TO HELP WITH FACILITATING THE DISCHARGING OF HOSPITALS UM FOR PATIENTS THAT ARE ABLE TO GO TO FACILITIES OR HOME. , OR THOSE KINDS OF SETTINGS OR ALLOWING THOSE BEDS TO BE AVAILABLE AND BE OPEN. OUR FACILITIES HAVE NOT REPORTED ANY CURRENT ISSUES.

UM WE ARE CONTINUING TO MONITOR THE SITUATIONS. I CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THOSE DISCHARGE PLANNERS IN THOSE FACILITIES. THAT IS OUR LATEST AND GREATEST WE HAVE AS OF TODAY. IF YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK RELATED TO THE WEEKLY REPORT, TOO MUCH, TOO LITTLE, YOU KNOW, IT JUST RIGHT? I WANT TO HEAR THAT FEEDBACK.

I WANT TO MEET YOUR NEEDS FOR WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AT EACH WEEK.

>> MAY I ASK A QUESTION. SO, YOU SAID THE POSITIVITY RATE IS 7.1%.

AND THEN UM DO YOU HAVE A PERCENTAGE, OR A NUMBER FOR THE NUMBER OF DEATHS?

>> IF YOU LOOK ON THE FRONT PAGE , ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IT ABOUT THE DEATH RATE.

AGAIN, THE HOSPITALIZATIONS HAS BEEN 7% OF OUR CASES OVERALL HAVE HAD ANY TYPE OF HOSPITALIZATIONS. WE HAVE HAD 47 DEATHS AND THAT IS 2% OF THE ALL OF THE CASES.

>> DO YOU HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF HOW MANY WERE 60 AND OVER? >> IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATE ON

THE FRONT PAGE, THE LAST DIAGRAM I GAVE HER HANDOUT UP THERE. >> WE GOT A LOT OF HANDOUTS TODAY. TRAN28 GOES OVER THE CASES THAT WERE REPORTED THAT DAY.

THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE HOSPITALIZATIONS AND DEATHS. THOSE INDIVIDUALS, AS WE GET

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HOWEVER WE ONLY HAVE 9%, 6% AND 3% IN THE 65 AND OLDER. YOU CAN LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE OF HOSPITALIZATIONS AND DEATHS. IT IS INDICATIVE OF AGE AND UNDERLYING CONDITIONS.

AS WE GET OLDER, WE FACE THOSE MORBIDITIES LIKE DIABETES, HYPERTENSION, ASTHMA, THOSE

TYPES OF ISSUES. >> LOOKS LIKE OVER 80%. >> S.

>> AGAIN, THE MESSAGE IS THE CONTROL PRACTICES HANDWASHING, SOCIAL DISTANCING, STAYING 6 FEET AWAY. ENCOURAGED MASK WEARING. BUT THEN LASTLY IS CONTINUE TO PROTECT OUR VULNERABLE. IT'S NOT A GOOD TIME TO GO VISIT GRANDMA.

OKAY? >> OKAY. >> CONTACTED TRACING ARE WE

KEEPING UP? >> WE STRUGGLED WHEN WE HAD THE UPTICKS A LITTLE BIT.

WE HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET FUNDING AND GET APPROPRIATED DOLLARS TO HIRE STAFF.

WE HAVE BEEN USING CONTACT STAFF WHICH IS VERY EXPENSIVE. , WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE TRANSITION OF HIGHWAY 23 ADDITIONAL STAFF IN BIOLOGICAL SCIENTIT POSITIONS THAT DO HIGH-LEVEL INVESTIGATIONS LIKE OUTBREAKS OF FACILITIES TO HIRING CONTACTED TRACERS.

SO SHOULD BE ON BY THE TENTH OF AUGUST. UM WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT. I DID INTERVIEWS OVER THE WEEKEND MYSELF.

WE ARE MANAGING. WE HAVE BEEN PULLING PEOPLE IN OVER THE WEEKEND TO DO CONTACT INVESTIGATIONS AND TRACING. THE MAIN THING IS GETTING PEOPLE TO ANSWER THE PHONES AND INTERVIEW WITH US. WE DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE REFUSED TO INTERVIEW WITH US.

IT'S IMPORTANT, WE NEED TO IDENTIFY THEM. MY MESSAGE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO INTERVIEW WITH ME, AT LEAST CALL THE PEOPLE YOU KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND AND YOU HAVE BEEN EXPOSED AND HAVE THEM THEY KNOW CAN GO GET TESTED IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO. I FEEL LIKE I'M IN A DISCO UP HERE OR.

[LAUGHTER] >> COULD YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE TESTING SITE AT FLEMING ISLAND AT THE TARGET THERE. I GUESS THEY RAN INTO SOME OPERATIONAL ISSUES TO GET STARTED IN TERMS OF NOT HAVING SOME EQUIPMENT LAST FRIDAY AND THEN I GUESS, WAS IT WEATHER, OR THEY RAN THROUGH THEIR 400 TESTS A COUPLE OF PEOPLE SAID THEY WENT TO AT 4:00 P.M. BOTH DAYS

SATURDAY AND SUNDAY AND THEY WERE ALREADY CLOSE. >> JOHN WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. THAT IS A STATE RUN TESTING SITE THE COMMUNITY-BASED TESTING SITE THAT JOHN AND I HAVE PARTNERED ON THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE JUNE CONTINUES TO BE AT 13 OH FIVE -- AT 1305 IDLEWILD AVENUE. I CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHEN IT IS DOWN POURING ON LIGHTNING, AND THUNDERING. THAT HAS ONLY BEEN ONCE OR TWICE SINCE WE HAVE HAD TO ACTUALLY SHUT IT DOWN EARLIER. HE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THE

TARGET LOCATION WHEN HE COMES UP. >> BY THE WAY, YOUR FOLKS GET HIGH MARKS FROM THOSE CONSTITUENTS THAT HAVE GONE DOWN TO GET TESTED.

>> GREAT. WE ARE THE FASTER IF FEEL. BUT, ACCURATE.

[LAUGHTER] >> A LENGTH OF TIME BEFORE THE TEST COME BACK?

>> WE WE HADN'T AN UPTICK IN THE NUMBER OF TESTS AND THE LACK OF STARTED GETTING VERY TIGHT WE

WERE ABOUT 5-7 DAYS. AS OF THIS MORNING 2-3 DAYS. >> THANK YOU.

>> HEATHER, BASED ON YOUR RESEARCH, OR WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE

MANDATORY USE OF FACEMASKS? >> THE CDC GUIDANCE HAS NEVER CHANGED, THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS. THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE. MASK USE IS UM A GUIDANCE, IT HAS STRONGLY BEEN ENCOURAGED. WE CANNOT POSSIBLY, 100% OF THE TIME MAINTAIN SOCIAL DISTANCING.

IT IS A TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX. IT IS NOT THE ONLY TOOL. I ALWAYS SAY IT IS JUST ONE OF THE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY BECOMES PART OF THAT.

REMEMBER THE GUIDANCE FROM CDC HAS NEVER CHANGED FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS UNTIL TODAY.

THE USE OF MASK IS ONE OF THE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX TO HELP REDUCE THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE VIRUS IS ONE THIRD OF THE INDIVIDUALS ARE ASYMPTOMATIC SO THEY FEEL GREAT, THEY FEEL FINE. BUT, THEY ARE SPREADING THE VIRUS.

IF THEY HAD A MASK ON UM THEY WOULD REDUCE THAT SPREAD. AGAIN, IT IS DROPLET FORMATS, IT IS NOT AIRBORNE. WE DO DROPLETS NOT ONLY WITH TALKING, BUT EXHALING.

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IT IS TRULY A PERSON PERSON-TO-PERSON TRANSMISSION DISEASE.

>> MAY I SHOULD ADDRESS THIS TO OUR ATTORNEY, IT WAS BROUGHT UP THE WALMART INSTANCE, THE MANAGER SAID IT WOULD HELP IF WE HAD A MANDATORY POLICY. I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS, IS IF SOMEBODY, IF THE STORE HAS A PUBLISHED MASK POLICY AND THE MANAGER SAYS THAT YOU EITHER HAVE TO HAVE A MASK ON, OR YOU HAVE TO LEAVE, LEGALLY CANNOT BE SUPPORTED?

>> RIGHT, THAT IS THEIR PRIVATE BUSINESS. THAT WOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COUNTY. THEY CAN ENFORCE IT THEMSELVES FOR THEIR OWN PRIVATE BUSINESS.

>> I WOULD PREFER TO SEE THAT BE THE FIRST LINE HERE, INSTEAD OF US DOING ANYTHING.

I THINK THE BUSINESSES ARE RESPONSIBLE TO EITHER PROVIDE A MASK AS PEOPLE WALK IN, OR TELL THEM THEY CANNOT COMMAND UNLESS THEY HAVE ONE. [INAUDIBLE]

>> MS. RAWLS, THE ONLY TIME YOU CAN SPEAK IS FROM THE PODIUM. YOU NEED TO ADDRESS US AGAIN, WE

WILL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO. >> I HAD A QUESTION, DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT IN THE LINE.

[LAUGHTER] >> I DON'T KNOW WHO TO LOOK AT. [LAUGHTER] ON VACCINES, IF AND WHEN ONE IS DEVELOPED, DO YOU ANTICIPATE ANY CHANGE IN POLICY, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE STATE LEGISLATURE WOULD ENACT THAT, NOT AN INDIVIDUAL COUNTY BASIS, BECAUSE YOU ARE A SUBSIDIARY OF THE STATE. THERE WOULD BE RELIGIOUS EXEMPTIONS MOST LIKELY, RIGHT? COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT?

>> FOR CDC UM PUTS OUT AN IMMUNIZATION SCHEDULE EVERY YEAR.

UM THERE ARE SCHOOL ENTRY REQUIRED IMMUNIZATIONS AND THEN THERE ARE ONES THAT ARE RECOMMENDED BY THE CDC. THE CDC RECOMMENDED SCHEDULE DOESN'T CHANGE.

EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT, WITHIN THE STATE CAN'T RECOMMEND THAT. CALIFORNIA HAS RULES RELATED TO, AFTER THE MEASLES OUTBREAK, NUMBER OF YEARS AGO AT THE DISNEYLAND AND THAT, THEY CHANGE THEIR LEGISLATURE UM RELATED TO SCHOOL ENTRY REQUIREMENTS. IF YOU DIDN'T IMMUNIZE YOUR CHILDREN THERE WAS NO RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION. IF YOU WANTED YOUR CHILD TO GO TO PUBLIC SCHOOL YOU HAD TO IMMUNIZE THEM. WE HAVE RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION UM WHEN SOMEONE COMES INTO OUR FACILITY AND IT'S ONLY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENTS THAT CAN ISSUE RELIGIOUS EXEMPTIONS, UM WE DON'T MAKE THEM VERIFY RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION.

WE YOU HAVE TO DO AN EDUCATION SESSION WITH A NURSE TO UNDERSTAND UM THE RISK AND BENEFITS OF IMMUNIZATIONS SO THAT THEY ARE MAKING A WELL INFORMED OF A SURGEON UM ABOUT WHEN WE HAVE A VACCINATION THERE WILL BE PEOPLE THAT CHOOSE NOT TO HAVE A VACCINATION.

>> I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF CONCERN OUT THERE. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WILL PROBABLY OPERATE IN A SIMILAR FASHION TO CURRENT SCHOOL ENTRY VACCINATION REQUIREMENTS.

>> I HAD NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT OR WHAT THEY WILL LOOK LIKE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF FREEDOMS IN AMERICA, WE WANT TO KEEP THOSE AS FAR AS PERSONAL CHOICE.

WE WILL DO WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THE STATE GOVERNMENT AND THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT ASK US TO DO. AGAIN, PART OF OUR ROLE IS TO PROVIDE PEOPLE WITH EDUCATION SO THEY MAKE WELL-INFORMED CHOICES BASED ON THE BEST CHOICE FOR THE FAMILY.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANYTHING ELSE FROM US APPEAR? >> I WILL SEE YOU BACK IN TWO

WEEKS. >> ALL RIGHT, JOHN WARD? >> HELLO EVERYBODY.

JOHN WARD. I APPRECIATE YOU ACCEPTING A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD AS THESE THINGS CAME UP AFTER THE AGENDA WAS DUE. THROUGH THE CHAIR, LET ME ADDRESS THE TARGET TESTING SITE. THE STATE CONTACTED US ON THURSDAY AND LET US KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE OPENING THAT SITE. THEY ARE CALLED IT POP UP TESTING SITES. THEY DID HAVE A COUPLE OF LOGISTICAL CHALLENGES COMING IN FRIDAY MORNING. THEY WERE ABLE TO GET THAT SITE UP.

I BELIEVE THEY STARTED ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND THEN IT WAS FULLY OPERATIONAL ON SATURDAY FROM 9:00 A.M. UNTIL 4:00 P.M. THE ORIGINAL UM CLOSING TIME WAS 1700, 5:00 P.M.

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THE PLAN IS TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THAT IN PLACE FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, THIS TIME.

LET ME JUST BRING UP ONE ADDITIONAL THING, WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF HURRICANE SEASON, WE HAD A STATE CALLED THIS MORNING WITH OUR PARNERS AND WE ARE WATCHING A SYSTEM THAT MAY BE CAUSING SOME IMPACTS TO FLORIDA THIS WEEKEND. UM IT WILL BE IN PUERTO RICO THE NEXT 48 HOURS AND THEN AT THIS TIME, WE EXPECT IT TO SLOW, WE ARE FIVE DAYS OUT.

SO THE TRACK IS GOING TO CHANGE AND THE TIMING IS GOING TO CHANGE.

I WANT TO SAY RIGHT NOW, THE CURRENT PROJECTIONS ARE IS THAT THERE COULD BE POTENTIAL TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS INTO SUNDAY MORNING, COMING INTO OUR AREA.

WE ASK OUR RESIDENTS TO PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THIS AS WE IT HAS BEEN A VERY BUSY SEASON SO FAR. VERY BUSY VERY EARLY. I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO PAY ATTENTION AND THEN MAKE SURE NOW, WHETHER THE SYSTEM COMES THROUGH OR NOT, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOUR SEVEN DAY DISASTER KIT READY. AND THE SEVEN DAY DISASTER KIT SHOULD INCLUDE FOOD, WATER, MEDICATIONS, CAN OPENER FOR THE FOOD, AND MONEY.

LET'S START GATHERING THAT UP NOW. WHETHER THIS SYSTEM IMPACTS US OR NOT. WE WANT TO BE READY. HAVE A FAMILY PLAN IN PLACE.

WE WILL NOT HAVE AN EVACUATION FOR THIS ONE. IF FOR SOME REASON THERE IS, WE NEED TO MOVE TENS OF MILES, NOT HUNDREDS OF MILES. LET'S REACH OUT AND FIND A FAMILY MEMBER OR A FRIEND WE CAN STAY WITH TO GO AHEAD AND RELOCATE OUT OF THE DANGER AREA.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS TODAY, AND THE CALL CENTER AND ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA OUTLETS ABOUT SHELTERS. WE WILL BE DOING SHELTERS IF IT OPENS.

HOWEVER, I JUST WANT TO PUT THIS OUT THERE, SHELTERS ARE A CONGREGANT SHELTERING AREA.

WERE GOING TO BE DOING MORE PHYSICAL DISTANCING, HANDWASHING , HAND SANITIZING IN THAT TYPE OF THING. THERE WILL BE SHELTERS OPEN. WE WOULD REALLY PREFER YOU TO MAKE A PLAN I GO TO A FRIEND OR FAMILIES PLACE. MORE TO COME FOR ANY OF OUR

RESIDENTS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU, JOHN.

[SILENCE] [INAUDIBLE] >> GET MY NOTES HERE.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH, I APPRECIATE THE PAGE FOR GIRLS, AND THE BUILDING THAT GOT BUILT. I ALSO APPRECIATE AS I SPEAK ABOUT THE TRAILS THAT ARE HELPING PEOPLE STAY OFF OF OUR ROADS. UM WE NEED TO LOOK AT REMOVING UM -- THOSE ARE GOOD THINGS, BUT WE NEED TO REMOVE FOOTBALLS AS CHILD ABUSE FROM OUR SCHOOLS.

WE NEED TO SUPPORT WOMEN, AND CHILDREN, NOT ABUSE THEM. WE HAVE A LOT OF ABUSE COMING FROM THAT TYPE OF ISSUE. I NEED TO MAKE A CORRECTION, I SAID DISTRICTS, MR. ROWLANDS THOUGHT THAT WAS FUNNY, BUT IT WAS VERY SERIOUS ISSUE. I MEANT TO SAY DISTRICTS, IN THIS COMMISSION, OR IN THIS COUNTY, I'M SORRY. UM, SO, UM, ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO TOUCH ON IS WE STILL HAVE THE SUNSHINE LAW, RIGHT? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY COMMISSIONERS LEANING OVER THE CHAIR WHISPERING IN HIS EAR DURING THE MEETINGS OF? I DON'T THINK THAT IS UNDER THE SUNSHINE LAW? MR. HUTCHINSON AND I HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW, THE LAST MEETING, IT WAS HORRIBLY WRONG, I WAS KICKED OUT FOR WEARING THIS. OKAY? UM, YOUR OWN STAFF IS TELLING YOU TO WEAR, I DON'T KNOW WHY GOT KICKED OUT OVER THAT. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, THE HUMAN SHELTER AND OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER, THAT WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER PLAN.

UM IF YOU START PUTTING THESE PIT BULLS DOWN, I SENT PICTURS OF PIT BULLS TRYING TO MAKE MY PROPERTY THAT I RENT OUT, YOU KNO, IT IS TRYING TO MAKE ITS HOME.

IT ATTACKS ON MY DOGS OR SOMETHING, GETS HIT BY A CAR OR SOMETHING ON THE HIGHWAY AND

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I KNOW MR. CELLA DOESN'T LIKE US TALKING ABOUT THE SCHOOL STUFF. WE HAVE A RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT IT. I REALLY HOPE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THE TYPE CHAIR ANYMORE.

WE HAVE MR. LONDON I CAME HERE AND DID AN AWESOME PRESENTATION. I MEAN, IT WAS REALLY INFORMATIVE, AND IT WAS REALLY ENTERTAINING. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE CITIZENS GO BACK AND REWATCH THAT, AND IT TALKS ABOUT THIS BEING THE OLD TOWN FEEL, BUT YET WE HAVE TREES OUT HERE IN THIS PARKING LOT THAT ARE OLDER THAN ANY OF YOU SITTING THERE, AND

THEY JUST GOT CUT DOWN LIKE THEY ARE NOTHING. >> YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE UP,

SIR. >> DIDN'T CUT OFF ALL THE OHER PEOPLE THAT CAME.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT NOW. >> I GOT MY APPLICATION FOR THE THOUSAND DOLLARS, DID YOU TELL

EVERYBODY THAT THE CAN APPLY FOR $1000 EACH? >> A NUMBER OF TIMES IT.

>> MISSED BRAWLS, YET SOME COMMENTS YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE, I WILL ENTERTAIN YOU JUST BRIEFLY IF YOU HAVE SOME REBUTTAL STATEMENTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE.

WE DON'T NORMALLY DO THIS. I'M GOING TO AFFORD YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BRIEFLY.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE.

>> I AM VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS COVID-19 SITUATION. I AM DIABETIC, MY HUSBAND HAS EMPHYSEMA,. [INAUDIBLE] YOU ONLY HAVE SO MANY AIR SACS IN YOUR LAWN, AND THAT IS WHAT COVID-19 ATTACKS. IT ATTACKS THOSE AIR SACS AND KEEPS POPPING THEM UNTIL YOU DIE. YOU'RE ON A VENTILATOR.

I DID TALK TO THE MANAGER AT WALMART, AND A CUSTOMER SERVICE PERSON AT WINN-DIXIE, THEY WERE VERY PLAIN WITH ME THAT ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE A STORE POLICY, THEY ARE HAVING A HARD TIME ENFORCING IT, BECAUSE THEY NEED SOMETHING LEGISLATIVE TO HELP THEM SAY OUR STORE HAS THIS POLICY, AND IT WAS VOTED BY THE MAYOR OF JACKSONVILLE, THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS THAT THERE IS A FACE MASK A WEARING YOU EITHER NEED TO WEAR A FACEMASK, OR LEAVE.

THEY NEED MORE TEETH TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THIS. THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT. >> I AM NOT CERTAIN IF THEY ARE JUST DODGING RESPONSIBILITY.

>> THEY MIGHT WANT TO DO BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT. THEY WILL HAVE THE AUTHORITY.

>> THEY DON'T NEED A MANDATE FROM US TO ENFORCE MASS, I DON'T THINK.

UNLESS YOU KNOW SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN I DO? >> CORRECT.

PRINT 20 THEY MAY BE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, DODGE BULLET ON THAT. THEY HAVE A STORY, IT IS THEIR PROPERTY, IS JUST LIKE THE SIGN OUT FRONT THAT SAYS NO SHE, NO SHIRT, NO SERVICE.

THEY CAN ENFORCE THAT. >> THEY CAN'T ENFORCE THEIR STORE POLICY.

>> YES, THEY CAN. AT A COST. >> I'M NOT ENTERTAINING YOUR REMARKS FROM THE BACK OF THE ROOM. OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT TO? I THINK WE GOT EVERYBODY.

>> STILL STILL HAVE TWO MORE ONLINE, SIR. >> DOCTOR, ARE YOU WITH US?

>> YES. GO AHEAD, SIR. YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD WITH YOUR

PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS DOCTOR DAN RICE RICK, I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF SUICIDE AWARENESS FORCES OF EDUCATION.

[INAUDIBLE] A NATIONAL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION WORKING TO PREVENT SUICIDE. OVER THE COURSE OF YOUR MEETING TODAY, YOU HAVE HEARD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TOPICS AROUND COVID-19, I WANTED TO PRESENT VERY QUICKLY TO YOU, AND ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON A PROJECT THAT MY ORGANIZATION IS MOVING FORWARD WITH, AND SUBMITTING TO THE FEDERAL REAL ADMINISTRATION. THERE'S ABOUT 300 PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES AND THE DIE BY SUICIDE ON THE RAIL TRACKS. IN CLAY COUNTY, IN YORK COUNTY, THERE ARE ABOUT 28.5 MILES OF

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MY ORGANIZATION IS SUBMITING A PROPOSAL FOR $100,000 TO THE FEDERAL REAL ADMINISTRATION AND ABOUT A WEEK. WE HOPE TO SECURE THIS. IF WE DO, BE ABLE TO PROVIDE OUTREACH TO YOUR COMMUNITY THROUGH AWARENESS CAMPAIGNS, EDUCATION TO HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS, MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, AND TO PROVIDE TRAINING.

AS WELL AS PUBLIC ORDINANCE, WHETHER WE ARE DOING SOMETHING VERY INNOVATIVE WITH A GEO- FENCING AND DIGITAL ADVERTISING, BILLBOARDS, AND BROCHURES THAT WILL BE HANDED OUT WITH A CHURCH AT BULLINGTON'S. WE HAVE SUBMITTED A LETTER OF SUPPORT TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, TO ALL OF YOU ASKING FOR YOU TO CONSIDER SIGNING.

THE ONLY REASON FOR THAT, AND I WILL FINISH WITH THIS IS THAT THIS PARTICULAR UM GRANT PROGRAM THAT IS RAN BY THE FEDERAL REAL ADMINISTRATION REQUIRES COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS OF ALL TYPES TO BE ABLE TO BE SUBMITTED WE HAVE LETTERS OF SUPPORT, FOR EXAMPLE THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS. PEOPLE IN THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY, MENTAL HEALTH.

WE NEED AS MANY AS WE CAN FROM A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE COUNTY OF COMMISSIONERS WOULD GO

A LONG WAY TO SECURING THIS PROPOSAL. >> OKAY, THANK YOU, MA'AM.

WE DO HAVE THAT AGENDA LATER ON TO VOTE FOR THAT OF SUPPORT ON THAT.

I'M SURE WE WILL PASS. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS IN DISAGREEMENT WITH WHAT YOU SAID.

IF YOU WANT TO STAND BY AND SEE HOW THAT VOTE TURNS OUT. THAT WOULD BE FINE.

YOU CAN CHECK IN WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER TOMORROW. EITHER ONE.

WHO ALSO WE GOT? >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> MR. CLIFFORD ROSE.

>> MR. ROSE? >> MY NAME IS CLIFF ROSE. I HAD A PREPARED STATEMENT.

AFTER HEARING THE PRESENTATION OF THE VERY FIRST LADY WHO SPOKE.

I DECIDED I REALLY COULDN'T IMPROVE UPON THAT, AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS REGARDING MASKS, FACEMASKS, AND MY BELIEF THAT I THINK YOU SHOULD STRONGLY CONSIDER MANDATING MASKS IN CLAY COUNTY. UM -- IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN, THE VERY FIRST PART OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE STATES THAT EVERYONE IS ENDOWED WITH CERTAIN INALIENABLE RIGHTS, AMONG THOSE LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPYNESS.

LIFE BEING NUMBER ONE. IF WE LOOK AT THE FIRST DUTY OF GOVERNMENT, IT IS TO PROTECT LIFE. WELL, THAT'S USUALLY ATTRIBUTED TO THOMAS JEFFERSON.

I THINK THERE IS SOME CONTROVERSY WHETHER HE ACTUALLY SAID THAT.

I DO KNOW ONE PERSON WHO SAID THAT, AND THAT WAS RONALD REAGAN WHO SAID GOVERNMENTS AT FIRST DUTY IS TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE. HE DID ALSO SAY, NOT RUN THEIR LIVES, TO BE COMPLETE AND NOT TAKE PART OF HIS STATEMENT OUT OF CONTEXT. I WANT TO READ THE DEFINITION OF ASSAULT, THE LEGAL DEFINITION OF ASSAULT. A COMMON LAW, ASSAULT IS AN INTENTIONAL ACT BY ONE PERSON TO CREATE AN APPREHENSION AND ANOTHER OF AN IMMINENT, HARMFUL OR CONTACT. I BELIEVE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WEAR MASKS ARE BORDERING ON ASSAULT.

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I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WHERE WE REGULATE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS.

I THINK WHEN WE WERE ALL YOUNG, POSSIBLY IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, OR HIGH SCHOOL, WE HEARD THE SUPREME COURT ADMONISHMENT THAT FREE SPEECH DOES NOT GIVE ONE THE RIGHT TO YELL "FIRE" IN A CROWDED THEATER FOR THE FEAR OF CREATING PANIC AND A STAMPEDE. SEATBELTS ARE MANDATED.

THAT DOESN'T EVEN AFFECT ANYONE, OTHER THAN THE PERSON WEARING THE SEATBELT.

I HAVE THE RIGHT TO WAVE MY ARMS , BUT MY RIGHT TO WAVE MY ARMS STOPS THE MINUTE MY ARM

CONTACTS YOUR FACE. >> MR. ROSE, YOU'RE THREE MINUTES ARE UP.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. >> I'M SORRY? >> I SAID YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE UP. WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. GIVE FOR JOINING US TODAY.

ARE WE UP ON PUBLIC COMMENT? >> THAT IS ALL. >> MOVING ONTO THE AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

THE CONSENT ITEMS, ITEMS TWO THROUGH EIGHT. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> CLOSE FOR DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I. SO DON'T. UNDER OLD BUSINESS, ITEM NUMBER NINE.

[20.  5:00 Time Certain or as soon thereafter as can be heard: RFP #19/20-44, Broker and Consulting Services for Employee Benefits]

THE FIRST WOULD BE ITEM 20. #19/20-44, BROKER AND CONSULTING SERVICES FOR EMPLOYEE BENEFITS

>> THAT WAS BROUGHT TO THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE. THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THERE BE PRESENTATIONS IN CONNECTION WITH THE TOP TWO RANKED COMPANIES.

BOTH COMPANIES ARE HERE TODAY WITH PRESENTATIONS. THEY WILL PRESENT THEM ALPHABETICALLY. THEY HAVE FIVE MINUTES EACH. WE WILL BEGIN FIRST WITH HUB PUBLIC RISK, INC. I BELIEVE HE SHOULD HAVE MATERIALS FROM BOTH COMPANIES

THAT THEY HAVE PASSED OUT. >> KNOWING THEIR MARKET SPACE, KNOWING WHAT IS WORKING IN CERTAIN AREAS AND IT IS GEOGRAPHIC SOMETIMES. I WOULD LIKE TO QUICKLY INTRODUCE OUR TEAM THAT IS HERE WITH US. DEBORAH HUNT IS OUR VICE PRESIDENT OF CUSTOMER SERVICE. SHE DOES A LOT OF WORK WITH OUR PUBLIC RISK CLIENTS.

SCOTT NELSON IS OUR PRESIDENT OF FLORIDA HUB EMPLOYEE BENEFITS. SO, YOU KNOW, THE DECISION YOU'RE MAKING HERE TODAY IS NOT ONLY IMPORTANT TO YOUR EMPLOYEES AND TO THEIR FAMILIES.

I HAVE TO TELL YOU IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC HOW IMPORTANT HEALTH COVERAGE COVERAGES AND HOW IMPORTANT BENEFITS ARE TO PUBLIC EMPLOYEES. SUCH A MAJOR PART OF YOUR COMPENSATION PACKAGE. IT'S ALSO A FIDUCIARY ISSUE FOR YOU AS DECISION-MAKERS.

WHO CAN BEST POSITION THE COUNTY, IN THE MARKETPLACE WITH THE BEST SAVINGS AND THE BEST OPPORTUNITIES FOR EMPLOYEES AND THE BEST STEWARDSHIP OF THOSE PUBLIC FUNDS.

WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT PRESENTING OUR PLACEMAT TO YOU TODAY, AND KIND OF GOING THROUGH THE STEPS.

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I WILL TURN IT OVER TO OUR LOCAL SCOTT NELSON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. BART FAILED TO MENTION I AM A CLAY COUNTY NATIVE.

IT'S AN HONOR TO BE BEFORE YOU ALL TODAY. WE HAVE LOVE NOTHING MORE TO HEAVY AS AS A CLIENT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALK ABOUT AT THE VERY TOP IS OUR BREATH OF PRACTICES. IT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR DIFFERENTIATORS WE HAVE WITHIN THE MARKET PLACE. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE OPERATING THE WAY THEY SHOULD.

WE HAVE TECHNOLOGY CONSULTANTS.

COMES WITH THIS. THERE IS NO HIDDEN FEES AND WE ARE VERY TRANSPARENT.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO WAS THE NEED FOR PUBLIC RISK TO BE LOOKED AT DIFFERENTLY. PUBLIC ENTITIS, COUNTIES, MUNICIPALITIES, ET CETERA.

THEY HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR. WE CREATED AN ENTITY FOR PUBLIC RISK. THAT IS ALL WE DO WITHIN THIS DIVISION.

, WE SERVE 22 ENTITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA. WE WOULD BE HONORED TO HAVE YOU GUYS IS THE 23RD. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BART MENTIONED.

WE HAVE A NEED TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT DRIVES YOUR EMPLOYEES.

MAKE SURE YOU CAN ENGAGE, RETAIN, AND ATTRACT THE RIGHT EMPLOYEES.

BY HAVING THAT FOCUS ON THE PUBLIC RISK, WE KNOW THAT THE BENEFIT PROGRAM IS IF REALLY IMPORTANT TO YOU OR YOU INTO PRIVATE SECTOR COMPETITION. SOMETIMES THE COMPENSATION IS NOT ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO HELP YOU FROM A BENEFIT STANDPOINT.

BENEFIT PROGRAM OPERATES AS IT IS. WE HAVE A SERVICE GUARANTEE.

WE DO PUT OUR FEES AT RISK. AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE SIT DOWN WITH SAFF AND SAY, HOW DO WE PERFORM? IF WE DIDN'T MEET YOUR EXPECTATIONS, WE GO AHEAD AND REDUCE OUR FEES. THERE WILL BE SOME TYPE OF CREDIT THAT WE COME BACK ON.

WE ARE VERY CONFIDENT IN WHAT WE DO AND HOW WE DO IT. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I WILL BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO IS THE BOTTOM RIGHT-HAND CORNER. IS OUR CLIENT SATISFACTION.

MAKE SURE WE SATISFY OUR CUSTOMERS AS WELL AS ON THE OTHER SIDE -- I'M SORRY, IT'S ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT-HAND CORNER ON THE BACKSIDE. WE HAVE 95% CLIENT RETENTION.

IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH NET PROMOTER SCORE, IT IS AN INDUSTRY AGNOSTIC SCORING SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS CUSTOMER SATISFACTION TO BE LEVELED ACROSS INDUSTRIES.

67 WHILE IT SOUNDS LIKE A D COME IS ACTUALLY A GOOD THING. IT IS THREE POINTS OFF WORLD-CLASS. THE LAST THING I WILL SHARE WITH YOU, IN THE FIRST PAGE, BOTTOM RIGHT. HOW WE FOCUS ON DATA. WE RECOGNIZE YOU BEING A SELF-FUNDED EMPLOYER TODAY. WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE BRING UNDERWRITERS AND ACTUARIES TO THE TABLE AND UTILIZE THAT DATA TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE WHAT WE DO, HOW YOU DO THINGS.

MAKE SURE THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE IN THE PROGRAMS WE PUT IN PLACE ARE ALIGNED WITH THAT DATA. IF YOU HAVE CLAIMS SPIKING IN A PARTICULAR AREA TRADE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DRIVING UTILIZATION DOWN IN CERTAIN AREAS.

LOOKING AT THE DRUG SPEND, MAKING SURE WE ARE PUTTING CERTAIN POLICIES AND THINGS IN PLACE. AS RELATES TO PRESS ALL THE ANALYSIS.

A PROPRIETARY PROGRAM WE CAME UP WITH THAT WE LOOK AT YOUR DATA, AND WE LOOK AT IT IN A VERY PROPRIETARY WAY. WE LEVERAGE THAT AGAINST ACTUARIAL DATA.

SO, THAT IS JUST A UNIQUE PROCESS WE WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND YOUR POPULATION. WHAT WE PUT IN PLACE WOULD BE ALIGNED WITH WHAT THE POPULATION WHICH ARE EMPLOYEE POPULATION LIKE. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> OUR NEXT PRESENTER WILL BE ONEDIGITAL HEALTH & BENEFITS >> THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS JOHN ROBINSON, I'M A PRINCIPAL WITH ONEDIGITAL HEALTH & BENEFITS WITH ME IS MS. HARDY, OUR VICE PRESIDENT AND SHE WILL BE THE LEAD COSULTANT ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL WITH OUR PROPOSAL AS WE HAVE SUBMITTED IT.

YOU HAVE A COPY OF THIS AS WELL. I WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF IN THE FIVE MINUTES.

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OUR BENEFIT STAFF IS JUST CONCENTRATED ON BENEFITS. EMPLOYEE BENEFITS.

WE DO NOTHING ELSE BUT EMPLOYEE BENEFITS. WE ARE NOT IN ANY OF THE INSURANCE AREAS SUCH AS THE ONES YOU ARE LOOKING FOR FOR YOUR BROKERAGE AND.

OUR MOTTO IS LOCAL PRESENCE WITH NATIONAL SCOPE. OUR LOCAL PRESENCE IS SEEN IN THE ACTUAL TEAM THAT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS PARTICULAR ACCOUNT.

IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL WITH THAT. HARDY IS THE LEAD CONSULTANT WITH THIS PARTICULAR PRACTICE THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT HERE. I WILL BE SUPPORTING HERE ALONG WITH OUR JACKSONVILLE OFFICE WITH LEE AND CINDY AS A PART OF THAT. WE HAVE ANALYTICS THAT ARE PART OF OUR TEAM. NATIONALLY WE HAVE OUR ATTORNEYS THAT HELP WITH THE LEGAL ISSUES.

WE HAVE A WELLNESS AND BENEFITS PERSON THAT IS VERY CRITICAL WHICH IS A BIG PART OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IN YOUR RFP COMPLIANCE ISSUES. ANALYTICS AND UNDERWRITING IS A VERY BIG PART OF OURS AS WELL AS REGULATORY AFFAIRS. OUR PERSON IN CHARGE OF THAT,, ANNETTE HAS BEEN VERY INSTRUMENTAL AND ACTIVE IN THE CARES ACT IMPACT ON EMPLOYERS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS AND IT HAS BEEN A BIG ISSUE FOR THEM. SOME OF THE CLIENTS THAT WE HAVE , AT LEAST IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR CLIENTS THAT WE DEAL WITH HERE OUT OF OUR OFFICE AND YOUR LOCAL TEAM WOULD DEAL WITH.

YOU'VE ALL SCHOOLS HAS BEEN OUR ACCOUNT FOR OVER 14 YEARS NOW. WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH HER HEALTH PLAN AND WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THAT IN OUR PROPOSAL.

AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR COUNTY GOVERNMENTS THAT WE WORK WITH. SEAN TAY IS A LEAD CONSULTANT.

YOU SEE A NUMBER OF THOSE OTHERS THAT WE LOOK AT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.

THE COLUMN ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THE RFPS WE HAVE DONE FOR THESE PARTICULAR CLIENTS AND MANY TIMES SEVERAL RFPS FOR THOSE PARTICULAR CLIENTS. IN THE AREAS THAT ARE OF INTEREST TO YOU.

CLINICS AS WELL AS A PART OF OUR ANALYSIS AND PART OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE, AS WELL AS MEDICAL SERVICES. WE HAVE HELPED WITH UM UM UM COUNTY JAILS AS WELL WHICH HAS BEEN FASCINATING TO WORK WITH. OUR APPROACH IS A HOLISTIC APPROACH.

UM WE LOOK AT THAT ENTIRE WORKFORCE AND LOOK FOR WAYS TO IMPROVE THE BENEFITS, NOT ONLY FROM THE FINANCIAL AND THE EMPLOYEE PERSPECTIVE. LOOKING AT IT FROM A HUMAN RESOURCES PERSPECTIVE, TOO. IT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL AND WE HAVE SEEN THE INFORMATION WE HAVE TOGETHER AN COVID-19 THAT HAS REALLY HELPED EMPLOYERS TO THIS PARTICULAR AREA.

OF PARTICULAR IMPORTANCE TO YOU IS YOUR HEALTH PLAN. WE BROKER ALL OF THE OTHER BENEFITS, BUT FROM A HEALTH PLAN PERSPECTIVE THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS. UM SOME OF THE THINGS WE DO -- EVERYTHING GETS DRAWN OFF OF OUR ANALYTICS. WE GET FULL CLAIMS THAT DATA ON SELF-INSURED GROUPS THAT WE HAVE. ALL OF THE GROUPS THAT WE SHOWED YOU BEFORE, ALL SELF-INSURED.

AND WE USE THAT TO DRIVE OUR DECISIONS. IT HELPS KEEP COMMITTEES INFORMED AS TO WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH YOUR COSTS AND YOUR PLANS. IT HELPS US WITH THE PLANNING AS WELL. WE LOOK AT ACTUALLY NEGOTIATING ACTUAL DISCOUNTS WITH PROVIDERS.

WE HAVE DONE THAT WITH FLORIDA BLUE. AND OUR CONTRACTS WITH DEVOLVED SCHOOLS. WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF LOCALLY DEVELOPED PROGRAMS IN THE AREA OF DIABETES AND CANCER CONNECTIONS, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER WELLNESS PROGRAMS THAT ARE OF INTEREST TO YOU. WE LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVE SETTINGS OF CARE, TOO.

WE LOOK TO SEE WHERE INDIVIDUALS CAN BEST BE SERVED AT AN AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTER VERSUS OUTPATIENT HOSPITAL. YOU WILL SEE FROM THE COST IT IS MUCH DIFFERENT FOR THAT.

WE ARE LOOKING FOR WIN-WIN IN THAT SITUATION WHERE THE CO-PAYS WILL BE LESS FOR THOSE PARTICULAR SERVICES IN THOSE AREAS AS WELL. IN ADDITION TO THAT WE LOOK AT THE PHARMACY AS ANOTHER AREA THAT IS OF IMPORTANCE TO US AS WE LOOK AT THIS.

THERE IS A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT WITH PHARMACY. WE HAVE ACTUALLY NEGOTIATED RACING. YOU SEE SOME THOSE IN OUR PROPOSAL WHERE WE SAY CLIENTS.

BECAUSE OF THE GUARANTEE IS NOT MET. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE LOOK AT PUTTING INCENTIVES AND FOR CO-PAYS TO ENCOURAGE INDIVIDUALS TO USE THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF A PHARMACY. WE ALSO LOOK AT THE WASTE AND ABUSE IN SOME OF THESE AREAS.

THIS IS ONE EXAMPLE OF A COMBINATION OF TWO DRUGS THAT MAKE UP A PRESCRIPTION.

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WE WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT FOR YOU. WE HAVE HELPED BUILD THIS PARTICULAR PRACTICE IN A WAY THAT HASN'T BEEN SUCCESSFUL OVER TIME.

OUR PUBLIC SECTOR, THE GROUPS WE HAVE WORKED WITH, WE HAVE WORKED WITH THEM FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ARE FOCUSED ON THE ANALYTICS AND REPORTING.

YOU WILL GET A NUMBER OF REPORTS FROM US AS FAR AS THAT IS CONCERNED AS WELL.

THE END INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS THAT WE LOOK AT OUR LOCALLY BASED.

THERE WILL BE THINGS THAT HAPPEN HERE THAT WILL BEST IMPACT YOU. IN ADDITION TO THAT, OUR PRICING IS COMPETITIVE. WE PUT 20 OF -- 20% OF OUR FEES AT RISK.

WE PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS. WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? I GUESS WE CAN GO AHEAD AND VOTE

ON THIS. >> YES, YOU CAN HAVE DISCUSSION ARE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SCORING WHICH EACH OF YOU SHOULD HAVE THE SCORESHEET SHEET IN FRONT OF YOU.

>> RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION? IF YOU HAVE ALL BEEN PROVIDED WITH THE SCORESHEET. AT THIS TIME, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MARK THEM.

>> UM, JUST FOR A PROCEDURE SO YOU UNDERSTAND, THERE WILL BE A ROLL CALL AND WHEN YOU SCORE THEM, YOU SHOULD SCORE WITH NUMBER ONE AS THE HIGHEST SCORE SO THAT ULTIMATELY, THE ONE WITH THE LOWEST ADDED UP SCORE IS ACTUALLY AWARDED. WE CAN START WITH COMMISSIONER RAWLINS? ONEDIGITAL HEALTH & BENEFITS ONE,

HUB PUBLIC RISK, INC. TWO. >> HUB ONE, DIGITAL TWO.

>> ARE THESE MAINTAINED FOR THE RECORD? >> WITH ONE -- A DIGITAL HAVING A SCORE OF SIX, THE LOW SCORE OF SIX WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WOULD BE AWARDED.

ONE DIGITAL WILL BE RECEIVED WITH HAVING A NEGOTIATED CONTRACT WHICH WILL BE BEFORE

YOU. >> WE WILL PROCEED WITH ITEM NUMBER 21.

[21.  5:00 Time Certain or as soon thereafter as can be heard: Final Public Hearing to consider CPA 2020-05, amend from Rural Fringe to Commercial on 6.93 acres. (P.C. voted 5-0 to recommend approval)]

CAROLYN? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. WHO IS DIRECTING THIS MEETING? ME OR YOU? [INAUDIBLE] IT IS NOT A PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> IT WAS A PRESENTATION, NOT A >> SORRY ABOUT THAT, SIR. [LAUGHTER]

>> ITEM 21. >> THIS IS A SMALL SCALE LAND-USE AMENDMENT WITH APPLICATION TO AMEND FROM RURAL FRENCH TO COMMERCIAL AT U.S. 17 AND COUNTY ROAD 315.

IT IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF U.S. 17. IT'S IN THE GREEN COAST SPRINGS

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THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION. THE EXISTING LAND USE, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS COMMERCIAL AND RURAL FRIENDSHIP. THIS IS A VIEW OF THE SITE FROM U.S. 17. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP TO THE SIDE, THERE IS CHANGE IN CONTOUR, AND THERE IS FLOODPLAIN ON PART OF THE PROPERTY. COMMERCIAL HAS A DENSITY OF .40, INTENSITY OF .40, WHEREAS THE RURAL FRENCH ALLOWS THREE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

THE LEVEL OF SERVICES IS ADEQUATE FOR THE PROPOSED USE. STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO CHANGE THE ENTIRE SITE TO COMMERCIAL. THAT IS WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE.

>> IS THE APPLICANT HERE? GO AHEAD. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN.

SAM GARRISON ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, KEN ATLEE. HE IS HERE, UM THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAVE TWO MATTERS BEFORE YOU, TO SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

I UNDERSTAND FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THEM, YOU NEED TO ADDRESS THEM BOTH.

THEY ARE DIRECTLY INTERRELATED. IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT BLEED OVER INTO THE ZONING AREA COME I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE AS WELL EVEN THOUGH YOU WILL HAVE TWO DIFFERENT HEARINGS. THIS PARCEL IS CURRENTLY OWN BY MRS. SUE HALL'S, TRUSTEE OF HER PARTICULAR TRUST, KNOWN BY THE CURRENT OWNER SINCE 1988. IT'S BEEN A STABLE OWNERSHIP FOR 30 PLUS YEARS. IT'S UNDER CONTRACT BY OUR CLIENT FOR DEVELOPMENT AS A COMMERCIAL PARCEL. UM AS CAROLYN MENTIONED TO YOU, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE OLDER PARCELS AROUND THE COUNTY THAT HAS TWO DIFFERENT LAND USES ON THE SAME PARCEL.

WORKING WITH STAFF TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT THE WAY, WE HAVE SOME GUESSES AS TO WHY.

WE CAN'T REALLY SAY SPECIFICALLY WHY THAT IS. OUR RECORDS DO NOT INDICATE THAT AS A RESULT OF THE LACK OF DEVELOPING FOR MANY YEARS. I WOULD SAY, I THINK THE STAFF REPORT, WOULD ADOPT THE FINDINGS OF THE STAFF REPORT FOR PURPOSES OF CONFIDENTIAL SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AS FAR AS IT RELATES TO THE HEARING. I THINK THE ANALYSIS IS VERY WELL SAID. I DON'T SEE A NEED TO DUPLICATE THE POINTS ARE BROUGHT IN THERE.

OTHER THAN TO SAY, THIS PARCEL, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, AS CAROLYN HAD MENTIONED, ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE 13 PLUS ACRE PARCEL, THERE IS A FLOODPLAIN. IN ADDITION, THERE IS A DESIGNATED WETLANDS THAT ARE ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PARCEL. I THINK IT IS PART OF THE ZONING PRESENTATION COMING UP. HE WAS SEE WE PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION THAT SHOWS EXACTLY WHERE THOSE WETLANDS ARE, AS WELL AS FOR PURPOSES OF TRANSPARENCY.

TRYING TO PROVIDE A TENTATIVE SITE PLAN TO STAFF SO THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. AS IT RELATES TO DEVELOPING, THIS GOES INTO THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING. WE CERTAINLY HAVE NO INTENTION WHATSOEVER TO DISTURB THE WETLANDS. THEY PROVIDE A NICE, NATURAL BUFFER ON OUR SIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINE. THERE IS AN EXISTING BUFFER ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.

OF THE EASEMENTS THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE BY THE DEVELOPMENT BY THE TIME THE PLOT WAS PUT FORWARD. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AS A RELATES TO SPECIFICALLY THE LAND USE CHANGE, WOULD SAY THAT THE RURAL FRENCH DESIGNATION, STAFF DID MENTION IN THE REPORT UM THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY OF EGRESS AND INGRESS TRADE THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN HAVE A RURAL FRENCH DEVELOP MEN OF ANYTIME TO TAKE PLACE ON THAT PARCEL NOW IF YOU WANTED TO. UM FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, EVEN THOUGH A NUMBER OF ACRES IN THE AREA ARE UNDEVELOPABLE AS WETLANDS. IT MAKES SENSE AS A RELATES TO THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL, AND IF ANY CITIZENS OR ANY MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT ABOVE AND BEYOND THE REQUEST FOR THE UNIFIED LAND USE DESIGNATION, AND THE ZONING REQUEST, WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED. OTHERWISE I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC YOU WANT TO

HEAR FROM. >> OKAY. WE WILL OPEN THIS UP TO PUBLIC HEARING. MR. YOCUM, WAS THIS THE ITEM THAT YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ON?

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ALL RIGHT, COME FORWARD THEN. >> MY NAME IS JERRY "MY LIVE IN FIVE FOLKS.

I HAVE THIS MAP THAT YOU PEOPLE SENT ME. MY NEIGHBORS AND MYSELF ARE CONCERNED ABOUT PRIVACY FROM THE BACK OF THE RESTAURANT AREA, WHERE YOU HAVE DRIVE THROUGH'S, DUMPSTERS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF THAT WE DON'T SEE NOW. WHAT PROVISIONS HAVE YOU MADE TO GIVE US PRIVACY? THIS MAP DOESN'T REALLY HAVE DIMENSIONS ON IT.

I'M NOT SURE HOW DEEP THIS GREEN AREA IS HERE. ALSO, WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN FIVE FOLKS, HOPE YOU DO SOMETIME, WE HAVE SOME BEAUTIFUL PINE TREES, HUGE PINE TREES IN THE BACKGROUND, JUST MAKES THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOK TERRIFIC. I HOPE YOU LEAVE THOSE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR INTO THIS ONE. THEY ARE.

I WOULD HOPE THAT MAYBE YOU COULD FIND A WAY TO PUT AN ISLAND AROUND THEM, OR SOMETHING TO SAVE THEM. IT REALLY MAKES THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOK GREAT.

IF YOU TAKE THOSE OUT, NOT AS GOOD. THAT IS OUR MAIN CONCERN.

WE WOULD LIKE NOT TO SEE DUMPSTERS FALLS ON THE BACK OF THE RESTAURANTS AND DRIVE

THROUGH'S. >> OKAY, SIR. >> CAN YOU SHOW US THE MAP YOU

HAVE SO WE CAN REFERENCE WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE SAME WAY? >> CAROLINE, DO WE HAVE THAT?

>> I'M TRYING TO GET A BACKUP. TRAN28'S PAGE SIX. --

>> IT IS PAGE SIX. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE BACK WITH YOU THEN, SIR. >> OKAY. >> IS NOT YOUR CONCERNS, BASICALLY WHAT YOU HAD JUST GIVEN US. MR. HARRISON, ANYTHING YOU CAN

SAY TO ADDRESS THESE? THIS WOULD BE A TIME TO DO IT. >> DO YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THE

WHOLE PUBLIC HEARING? >> I THINK THAT WAS IT. YOUR NAME, SIR?

>> I GOT THE CARD, BUT I DIDN'T HAVE IT IN. >> OKAY, COME ON UP.

WE WILL TAKE YOUR CARD AFTER YOU FINISH YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. BECAUSE OF THE MASKS, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE FROM FIVE OAKS DIVISION FIVE OKAY, YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A BUNCH OF CONCERN TO FOLKS, BECAUSE WE LIKE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. ONE OF THE THINGS, WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THAT MAP WHERE THEY WANT TO READ ZONE THE ENTIRE PIECE OF PROPERTY, THE BACK PART OF THAT IS GOING TO BE VERY CLOSE TO THE RESIDENTIAL HOUSING THAT IS THERE.

WITH THE WETLANDS, FLOODPLAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THAT STUFF HAS BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. I DO KNOW THAT THE SETBACKS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE 50 FEET AWAY FROM WHAT THE WATERLINE IS, DURING THE FLOOD. IN THAT AREA DOES GET FLOODED BACK THERE. SO, TO BUILD ON THAT, OR CLOSE TO IT WOULD BE VERY BAD.

WE BELIEVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY SHOULD BE DONE. TO SEE WHAT THE EFFECTS ARE, BEFORE YOU CHANGE THE ZONING TO MAKE IT ALL COMMERCIAL. COMMERCIAL ZONING WOULD ALLOW ADULT ENTERTAINMENT, SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESSES. IT'S IN FOR THING THAT IS

PUBLISHED IN HERE. >> THERE IS DESIGNATED SITES FOR THAT, AND THAT IS NOT ONE OF

THEM. >> WELL, IT SHOWS THAT THAT IS A POSSIBLE USE.

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>> IT IS NOT. >> THAT'S GOOD. GLAD TO KNOW.

LET'S SEE. AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE ENVIRONMENT IMPACT STUDY.

THAT REQUIRES NO NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE NATURAL FEATURES, OR ECOLOGICAL FUNCTIONS OF THE SUBJECTS, OR THE SURROUNDING LANDS, WHICH WE ARE PART OF THE SURROUNDING LANDS.

SO, WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT BLEEDING OVER INTO OUR AREA, AND AGAIN, AS JERRY MENTIONED, THERE IS A LOTS OF BUFFER ZONE THAT KIND OF SHELTERS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE NOISE ON 17. I CAN UNDERSTAND ALONG THE FRONTAGE FOR HIGHWAY 17 THE OBVIOUSLY THAT SHOULD BE ALLOWED FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND IT IS.

BUT, TO MOVE THAT ZONING FURTHER BACK, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE OTHER STUDIES DONE, OR A SITE PLAN FOR THAT AREA WHICH IT IS JUST DESIGNATED AS FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE IF ELEMENT IS GOING TO BE. CERTAINLY, ONCE IT IS REZONED AS COMMERCIAL, THEN, IT COULD BE WHATEVER IS IN THE PARAMETERS OF DEVELOPING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE? THOSE ARE THE MAIN THINGS. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CHAD

WILLIAMS, I DON'T KNOW IF HE IS HERE TONIGHT. >> THERE HE IS.

HE GOT MY E-MAIL FROM THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD HERE. AND, SENT TO ME.

WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS. HE RESPONDD TO THOSE, AND I THINK HIS RESPONSE WERE ADEQUATE , AND CERTAINLY GAVE US MORE INFORMATION. AGAIN, A COUPLE OF THINGS, THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY. I THINK SHOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED PRIOR TO MAKING THE ZONING

CHANGE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU.

THAT IS ALL OF THE CARDS I HAVE AS FAR AS A PUBLIC COMMENT, UNLESS THERE SOMEONE THAT I HAD MISSED? MR. OTTO, YOU'RE STANDING UP, COME ON IT.

WE WILL GET TO YOU, SIR. >> YOU KNOW I DON'T WANT TO MISS OUT ON THIS AFTER DRIVING TWO HOURS TO GET HERE. YOU ASK IF YOU MISSED ANYTHING, SIR? THAT IS WHY IT WAS COMMENTING. THERE IS A SIX SHOT, THERE IS ONE OF THE DESIGNATING AREAS THAT IS FOR SALE. I DROVE BY THERE, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO BUY IT AND OPEN ONE UP.

I THINK YOUR LAWN NEEDS TO BE CHALLENGED THOUGH, TOO. LET'S SEE.

MR. LONDON, I MEAN,, I JUST HAVE TO PRAISE THAT GUY, MAN. IF YOU LISTEN TO THAT, AND LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE HERE TODAY, YOU GUYS ARE PAID ALL OF THAT MONEY, HE TOLD YOU ALL YOU HAVE IS THE OLD TOWN FEEL. ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS THE TRIP COUNT THAT THESE FOLKS ARE TRYING TO GET OUT.

THE AMOUNT OF TRIPS, AND EVERYTHING. DID YOU ALL FIGURE OUT YOUR MATRIX AND GET THAT STRAIGHTENED OUT? I KNOW THAT WAS A REAL BIG PROBLEM FOR THE COUNTY. UM WE REALLY NEED TO GET THE ROADS FIRST.

THE BUSINESSES DON'T COME BEFORE THE FOLKS ARE HERE. THE ROAD SHOULD COME BEFORE THE BUILDING COMES. BUT HOLD UP, YOU KNOW I AM AGAINST $129 MILLION, BECAUSE THAT 5% DISTURBANCE -- A DIFFERENCE ON YOUR COST DIFFERENCES WAY OUT OF LINE PRETTY GOOD RESEARCHER BIDS ON YOUR YOUR PROJECTS, YOU WILL KNOW THAT THOSE PRICES -- SHE BETTER HAVE A 15%, YOU KNOW, BUFFER IN THERE. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU KNOW, I WANT TO STAY ON TRACK, TOO, SIR. I DON'T WANT TO DISRESPECT YOU IN ANY WAY. YEAH, DEFINITELY, THE ROADS BEFORE THE BRICK-AND-MORTAR, AND PLEASE, PLEASE, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE MINUTES. THEY ARE VERY VAGUE IN SOME

PLACES. >> THAT IS NOT PART OF THIS PUBLIC COMMENT.

IT'S RESTRICTED TO WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE MY

COMMENTS FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM. >> YOU HEARD WHAT I SAID, OKAY? >> I'M REFERRING TO THIS AGENDA ITEM. I WOULD LIKE TO LIKE HAVE MY MINUTES REFRACTED PROPERLY.

>> THEY WILL BE. >> IT JUST SAYING MR. OTTO ON A LOT OF THE COMMENTS, THAT'S ALL&

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YOU KNOW, LIKE, UM, WHY NOT JUST TELL EVERYBODY. YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYBODY IN FLORIDA, DOESN'T MATTER, UNLESS YOU HAVE A CONTRACT FOR A JOB, THEY CAN JUST FIRE YOU WRITE ON THE SPOT. THEY DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU NOTHING.

>> THAT IS IT. YOU ARE DONE. THANK YOU.

SIT DOWN. THE GENTLEMAN IN THE BACK, THE LADY RIGHT HERE.

WHOEVER WANTS TO GO FIRST. NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND A CARD TURNED IN WHEN YOU'RE

FINISHED SPEAKING. >> I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD TO HAVE A CARD.

CAN I JUST SAY COUPLE OF THINGS? >> COME ON UP. >> THANK YOU.

IS THERE NOT A SIGN AT THE FRONT DOOR, YOU NEED A CAR TO SPEAK? >> I DIDN'T SEE IT.

MY NAME IS VICKY ALLEN. I ALSO AM A RESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO SAY, THAT PROPERTY IS REALLY QUITE SMALL IF YOU THINK ABOUT A 6-ACRE PIECE OF PROPERTY.

THEY ARE LOOKING TO BARELY BUILD THREE PROPERTIES, AT LEAST TWO BUSINESSES THERE.

THERE IS AN VERY MUCH ROOM BEFORE YOU HIT THOSE WETLANDS, NOT WATERSHED.

IN THE RETENTION POND AND OUR HOMES. WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE SMELL OF THE GREASES, AND JUST TO REGULAR HOMEOWNER CONCERNS. IN PARTICULAR, UM, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE WETLANDS. I FEEL LIKE, IT WOULD BE A FAIR ASSESSMENT TO ASK FOR AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT BEFORE FINAL APPROVAL MIGHT BE GIVEN.

THAT IS ALL THEY HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. >> CAN I JUST JUST POINT OUT, THAT THE ACTUAL PARCEL IS OVER 13 ACRES. IS THIS 6.93 THAT WE ARE AMENDING FROM RURAL FRIENDSHIP TO COMMERCIAL. THAT'S ONLY A PORTION OF THIS

PROPERTY. TRAN26 .93 YOU SAY? >> YEAH, THAT IS WHAT IS TO BE

CHANGED. >> MY NAME IS RON HALEY. I LIVE AT 30115 OAKS LANE.

I ONLY CONCERN IS -- IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME KIND OF OFFENSE, OR BARRIER THAT WILL SEPARATE OUR COMMUNITY FROM THE COMMERCIAL? THAT IS MY ONLY CONCERN.

I KNOW I CAN'T FIGHT PROGRESS. I WOULD LOVE TO NOTE THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A WALL, OR FENCE, OR SOMETHING. THAT BARRIER REALLY HELPS WITH THE TRAINS GOING BY, AND ALL OF THE TRAFFIC ON 17. IT IS VERY NOISY. THAT IS MY ONLY CONCERN.

MY WIFE ASKED ME TO ASK YOU, IS THERE GOING TO BE A GATE WHERE WE CAN GET IN TO GET SOMETHING

FROM TACO BELL? [LAUGHTER] >> THAT IS THE IMPORTANT PART.

OKAY. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? >> YES, SIR, COME ON UP.

>> MY NAME IS TOM HAMILTN. I LIVE AT 3027, FIVE OAKS LANE. THE THING IS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE AROUND THE WETLANDS. IT'S REALLY HARD TO SAY WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT PROPERTY. IT STATES HERE ON PAGE 17, THE FLOODPLAIN DESIGNATION, THE REQUIREMENTS WILL REMAIN IF THE BOARD CHOOSES TO AMEND THE LAND USE AND WOULD LIKELY "WOULD LIKELY" NOT FOR SURE, WE CONTINUE TO CREATE A BUFFER.

[INAUDIBLE] THERE IS NO GUARANTEE WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THAT LAND.

THE RUNOFF, PLUS OUR YARDS IN CERTAIN AREAS. THAT FLOOD LAND IS WHERE THE WATER IS. WITH THE DEVELOPMENT. [INAUDIBLE]

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>> THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, MR. GARRISON HAS BEEN WRITING DOWN THESE QUESTIONS AND I KNOW HE HAS ANSWERS FOR SOME OF THEM. YES, SIR, COME ON IT. -- UP.

[INAUDIBLE] I HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION, IF YOU CAN COME UP FOR A MOMENT. I DON'T WANT TO WEAR YOU OUT TOO MUCH, SIR. THIS KEEPS COMING UP. I THINK YOU MAY BE THE PERSON TO ADDRESS IT. SORRY. IN THE RULES AND REGULATIONS

THAT YOU WORK WITH IN THE COUNTY , THE STATE COME ALSO. >> SORRY, THAT WAS LOUD.

GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE HAVE HER TONIGHT. IF A BUSINESS GOES IN AND YOU CAN DOCUMENT THE RESULTS OF THAT BUSINESS BEING PUT IN FLOODS THE ADJOINING PROPERTY, WHOSE

CHARGED WITH ENFORCING THAT? >> I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE A CIVIL MATTER.

I WOULD LOOK TO OUR ATTORNEY FOR THAT. IT'S HARD TO GIVE YOU AN OPINION AT THIS MOMENT. THAT IS HOW WE WOULD REVIEW IT. WE WOULD LOOK AT THE WATER LEVELS, YOU KNOW, IN THE NATURAL WETLAND. THAT WOULD BE THEIR BASELINE

THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO DISCHARGE IT. >> THEN ANSWERS MY QUESTION TO SOME DEGREE. WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR, COURTNEY MAY WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THIS, WE DON'T WRITE WRITE INSURANCE POLICIES APPEAR, BUT SOME ASSURANCE THAT IF THE DEVELOPMENT THEY ARE LOOKING TO PUT IN THEIR ADVERSELY AFFECT THE PROPERTY OF THESE FOLKS WHO

SHOWED UP HERE TONIGHT? DO THEY HAVE RECOURSE? >> WHAT I HEARD THE ONE KAHNEMAN COMPLAIN ABOUT, THE RETENTION PONDS ARE CAUSING ISSUES FOR FLOODING ON HIS PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT DRAINING PROPERLY. THAT'S LIKELY TO BE THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS PROBLEM OR ISSUE.

I MEAN, AGAIN, THAT'S GOING TO BE BETWEEN THE TWO NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.

>> I UNDERSTAND. OKAY, DALE, THANK YOU. I THINK MR. GARRISON SHOULD

ADDRESS THIS. >> DALE, BASED ON WHAT YOU HAVE HEARD, ANECDOTAL INFORMATION FROM THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE THERE, DO YOU THINK THE POND THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY IS IN A

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FASHION NOT WORKING THE WAY IT SHOULD? >> IT EITHER NEED SOME MAINTENANCE ON IT, OR, POSSIBLY THE ENGINEER WHO DESIGNED THAT SUBDIVISION, HE DID NOT PICK THE RIGHT WATER LEVEL TO START HIS STARTING WATER LEVELS OUT ON, YOU KNOW, THE DISCHARGE FOR THE POND IN THE SYSTEM THAT DRAINS INTO IT. IT IS SOMETHING WE WILL HAVE TO

LOOK INTO. >> I ASSUME THAT IS ONE OF OUR PONDS?

>> NOT NECESSARILY. MOST SUBDIVISION PONDS THE RESPONSIBILITY FALLS ON THE

PROPERTY OWNERS OR THE HOA. >> WESLEY --

>> DO YOU FOLKS HAVE AN HOA? >> YES. >> AM SORRY.

YES, SIR, YOU HAD A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION? COME ON UP SO WE CAN ALL HEAR YOU AND YOU COULD BE ON RECORD. JOIN THE CLUB. [LAUGHTER]

>> ANYWAY. I LIVE IN THE CUL-DE-SAC ON FIVE OAKS LANE.

3-5 OF US IN THAT AREA HAVE SUMP PUMPS IN OUR BACKYARD. WHICH GATHERS TO THE EXTREME AND PRINTED OUT ON THE STREET WHICH RUNS DOWN FROM A COURSE TO THE POND.

I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT IN. I DIDN'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY WAS AWARE OF THAT? BECAUSE THE LOT SLOPE -- THE LOT BEHIND ME, AND MY LOT SLOPES TO AV ALMOST.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A CREEK THERE AT ONE TIME, OR WHAT? A HEAVY RAIN, IT WILL GET A FOOT DEEP IN MY BACKYARD. BUT THE SUMP PUMP TAKES IT TO COME PUTS IT OUT ON THE STREET WHICH IT RUNS DOWN INTO THE RETENTION POND.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. ALRIGHT, I THINK WE HAVE COVERED MOST OF THE FOLKS.

MR. GARRISON, START OUT WITH THE MOST IMPORTANT FIRST. DRAINAGE.

[LAUGHTER] >> YES, SIR. BEFORE I ANSWER, I WANT TO SAY, THESE FOLKS ARE RIGHT. FIVE OAKS IS A BEAUTIFUL SUBDIVISION.

IT REALLY IS. YOU WOULDN'T KNOW IT IS THERE, YOU HAVE TO GO AROUND BACK TO GET IT. IT IS PRETTY AND IT IS BEAUTIFUL.

I WOULD JUST SAY, FORTUNATELY, FOR THIS SITUATION, WE ARE DEALING WITH A LOCAL DEVELOPER, FROM DAY ONE, SAID WE ARE NOT MESSING WITH THE WETLANDS. NUMBER ONE IT IS GOOD BUSINESS SENSE. IT HAS THE ADDED BENEFIT OF PRESERVING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO US AS A JACKSONVILLE COMPANY. THE DRAINAGE ISSUE YOU MENTIONED , COMMISSIONER. SPECIFICALLY TO DALE'S., EVERY BIT OF STORM WATER RUNOFF THAT IS THE RESULT OF OUR 13 PLUS ACRES IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE TREATED IN TWO RETENTION PONDS.

ONE ON THE NORTH PART OF THE PROPERTY, ONE ON THE SOUTH PART. THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT IS NOT JUST THE 13 ACRES THAT ARE SUBJECT FOR THE LAND USE CHANGE, AND ALSO THE ZONING CHANGE.

THERE'S ANOTHER PARCEL CURRENTLY ZONED WITH MORE INTENSE USAGE WHICH IS THE BOTTOM OF THE PROPERTY THAT WILL BE INCORPORATED AS PART OF OUR OVERALL SITE PLANS.

NOT FOR ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH ANYTHING RELATED TO LAND-USE CHANGE.

ALL OF THE STORMWATER RUNOFF PERIOD HAS TO BE CAPTURED BY THOSE RETENTION PONDS.

WE ARE SPENDING A GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY WITH OUR STORMWATER ENGINEERS TO ENSURE THAT IS THE CASE. I CAN'T TELL ANY RESIDENT, THE DEVELOPMENT, THAT WE CAN FIX THE ENGINEERING PROBLEMS. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE DEVELOPER MAY HAVE HAD WHEN THEY INSTALLED THEIR ORIGINAL BONDS. BUT I CAN'T SAY, CONCLUSIVELY. NOTHING WE ARE DOING AN OUT OF IS GOING TO MAKE IT WORSE. IN FACT IT MAY MAKE IT BETTER. THAT IS THE BEST ANSWER I CAN

GIVE YOU TO THAT. >> THAT'S A GOOD ANSWER. >> OTHER ISSUES, ALL OF THOSE

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WE MAY HAVE TO DO THIS TWICE. AS IT RELATES TO ANY DEVELOPER,, ARE OBVIOUSLY SETBACKS THAT ARE GOING BE APPLICABLE THAT WE ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO COMPLY WITH. THE GENTLEMAN ASKED IF THERE GOING TO BE A BARRIER OR A REQUIREMENT UNDER LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

WE WILL OBVIOUSLY COMPLY WITH ALL REQUIREMENTS THAT THE COUNTY AND YOU REGULATIONS HAS A STEW.

WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. THE GOOD THING IS, IN ADDITION TO WHATEVER WOULD BE THE STANDARD IS IN THIS CASE, GOD HAS DONE US A FAVOR. THE WETLAND ARE THERE.

SO THEY PROVIDE A BUFFER ABOVE AND BEYOND THE VISUAL BUFFER THAT THE NEIGHBORS WERE TALKING ABOUT REMAINS INTACT. A NUMBER OF IT IS ON THEIR PROPERTIES WHICH THEY CONTROL AND HAVE CONSERVATION ZONE TO MAINTAIN. THE PART THAT IS ON OUR PROPERTY , WE ARE NOT MESSING WITH. SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE ISSUE, THE FUTURE LAND USE, WE WANT TO REITERATE OUR ARGUMENTS THAT THE RURAL FRENCH DESIGNATION THAT IS IN EFFECT DOESN'T MEET THE LEGAL STANDARD AS REQUIRED BY THE COUNTY CODE.

SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO DEVELOPMENT WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT IT.

IT WILL BE A NET POSITIVE FOR THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

YOU MAY HAVE. >> WELL, MAYBE, FOR ME. IF YOU CAN JUST CLARIFY THE PROCESS FOR THE PUBLIC, THE HOMEOWNERS. TONIGHT WE ARE JUST CHANGING THE LAND USE ON THE ZONING. THEY WILL BE COMING BACK, BEFORE THEY DO ANYTHING.

COULD YOU KIND OF CLARIFY THAT SO THEY WILL KNOW THAT THEY STILL HAVE MORE TIME FOR INPUT.

>> FOR LAND USE AND ZONING HEARINGS ARE TONIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL PER SE. YOU CAN ATTEND THE DRC MEETING, BUT IT'S NOT IN THIS BIG ROOM.

IT'S DOWNSTAIRS ON THE THIRD FLOOR. THEY ARE PUBLIC.

THEY ARE ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE IN TERMS OF WHEN THEY ARE SCHEDULED.

THIS MIGHT INVOLVE MORE THAN ONE SITE PLAN. THEY MAY COME IN WITH TWO RESTAURANTS THAT THEY ARE SHOWING NOW. COMING LATER WITH A SITE PLAN FOR SOME OTHER PART OF PROPERTY. IT'S NOT NECESSARY THAT WOULD ALL HAVE TO BE DONE AT ONE TIME.

>> I WOULD SAY, TO PIGGYBACK ON CAROLYN'S POINT. TYPICALLY IN THESE SORTS OF PROCESSES, WHEN THESE MATTERS COME BEFORE YOU COME YOU DON'T HAVE SITE PLANS AND STAFF.

WE DID PROVIDE WHEN THIS INSTANCE, BECAUSE UM, QUITE FRANKLY WE THOUGHT IT WAS OUR BENEFIT TO BE TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE FOR THE NEIGHBORS AND FOR EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE. THE TENTATIVE SITE PLAN, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE "TENTATIVE" BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE ZONING DONE. WE ARE OPEN AS POSSIBLE WITH THE COUNTY AND THE NEIGHBORS AS WELL. PEOPLE NEED TO TRUST IT THAT WE

ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO DOING THAT. >> I MUST NOT HAVE GOTTEN THE

SITE PLAN. >> IT'S PART OF THE PRESENTATION AND THE REZONING.

>> IS THERE GOING TO BE A GATE FOR TACO BEL?Ú[LAUGHTER] >> WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT IT.

IT'S GOING TO BE A REAL BENEFIT TO THE FOLKS IN THIS PLACE. >> THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> ONE WAY IN AND OUT. THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING WOULD BE IN THE AREA THAT IS CURRENTLY RURAL FRENCH. IT WOULD BE PASSIVE YOU SPRAY DO NOT TALKING HIGH TRAFFIC. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FROM THE SITE.

WERE TALKING MUCH MORE PASSIVE USE THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR DEVELOPING OF THIS TYPE.

>> GOOD. THAT WAS ALL I HAD. >> AND CONFUSED WHEN TO ASK THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE MIXING AND MATCHING.

JUMPING IN WITH A SITE PLANS THIS. MY BIGGEST CONCERN COME OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE READY HAVE WATER PROBLEMS THERE, WHICH YOU HAVE NOT HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IN TERMS OF THE FLOODING THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. I GUESS THE FIRST CONCERN I HAVE IS TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T EXACERBATE ANYTHING THAT IS ALREADY THERE.

THAT IS THE FIRST THING. AND THEN THE SECOND THING WOULD BECOME ALTHOUGH I KNOW WE HAVE SOME SETBACKS. WE HAVE THE WETLANDS AND I THINK THE CODE CALLS FOR AN OPAQUE DEFENE OF SOME KIND TO BE PUT HOW WE FIGURE THAT OUT. ARE WE GOING TO PUT THAT ON YOUR

SIDE IN TERMS. >> I THINK IT'S TOO EARLY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, COMMISSIONERS. WE HAVE NOT GONE TO A SITE PLAN WITH THE COUNTY.

TO ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION. I CAN CONCLUSIVELY SAY THAT THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL EXACERBATE ANY FLOODING ISSUES THAT CURRENTLY EXIST FOR THE RESIDENTIAL HOMEOWNERS. THE CODE WILL NOT ALLOW IT. OUR REPUTATION IS ON THE LINE WHEN WE DO THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO CAPTURE OUR STORMWATER RUNOFF. LIKE I SAID, I CANNOT PROMISE YOU WHATEVER ENGINEERING ISSUES

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THAT SEEMS MANAGEABLE. AGAIN, -- I DID SAY AT THE HOLIDAY INN LAST NIGHT.

I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT ENGINEERING. AS FAR AS RUNOFF FROM OUR PROPERTY. ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT EXACERBATE THAT IN ANY WAY.

NO MATTER WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WE DO THERE. WE HAVE TO CAPTURE STORM WATER RUNOFF. THAT'S WITH GOOD CONTRACTORS AND WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING.

>> THE OTHER THING IS, AS YOU MENTIONED. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS FOR ABOUT

A DOZEN HOMES THAT SIT, CLOSEST TO YOUR PROPERTY. >> I THINK THERE IS FOR ACTUALLY, BELIEVE IT OR NOT. AND THEN DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THAT YOU ARE SOME RETENTION PONDS.

>> ACROSS THE STREET -- THAT'S WHAT I'M MOST CONCERNED ABOUT IN TERMS OF A BUFFER OF SOME KIND.

IT HELPS WITH THE WETLANDS. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WE WERE THIS FAR ALONG.

I'M GOING TO TRAIPSE TO THE WETLANDS MYSELF TO SEE HOW DENSE THEY WERE.

SO WE CAN SEE WHETHER OR NOT THEY GET SOME RELIEF WITH THAT. THAT IS A CONCERN.

>> WE WILL SEE WHEN WE GET TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE ZONING MATTER.

YOU KNOW, FORTUNATELY, FOR THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. YOU HAVE THE WETLANDS WHICH IS A NATURAL BUFFER. THAT IS JUST ON OUR PROPERTY LINE.

THE WETLANDS GO FROM OUR PROPERTY LINE TO THE PROPERTY OF SOME OF THE PRIVATE HOMEOWNERS.

WHEN THE DEVELOPER IT WAS PUT TOGETHER, FOR THOSE WHO ARE AFFECTED, YOU'LL SEE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WILL SEE IT OR NOT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL PLAT, THE SUBDIVISION, WHEN IT WAS ACTUALLY DEVELOPED, THE WETLAND PORTIONS THAT WENT ON TO PRIVATE PROPERTIES ARE PRESERVED WITH A CONSERVATION EASEMENT. HE GOING TO HAVE A VERY SUBSTANTIAL BUFFER THAT WRONG -- RUNS ALONG THE LENGTH OF THE PROPERTY NOT JUST VISUALLY, BUT ALSO FOR THE OTHER REASONS WE

ARE TALKING ABOUT. >> MEAN WE ALREADY HAVE MR. ATLEE, AT LEAST ONE TACO BELL CUSTOMER. AT LEAST HE CAN MAKE SURE WE HAVE A BUFFER THERE.

>> FOR 1000 REASONS BOTH BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR, AND ALSO BEING A GOOD BUSINESSMAN AND MAKE SENSE NOT TO MESS WITH THESE WETLANDS. THEY ARE GOING TO BE UNDISTURBED AND UNENCUMBERED.

THAT MAKES SENSE FOR US IN THIS DEVELOP MET. THAT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

THAT IS HOW GOD DESIGNED IT. >> SAVE THE PINE TREES. >> UNDERSTOOD.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU, MR. GARRISON. >> COME BACK TO THE MICROPHONE,

SIR. >> YOU ASKED FOR PICTURES. I CAN LEAVE THIS DOCUMENT WITH YOU. WE HAVE A RETIRED CIVIL ENGINEER WHO LIVES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND, HE TOOK PICTURES OF THE WETLANDS, THE AREAS THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT.

>> GIVE THOSE TO CHAT IF YOU WOULD, SR. >> THERE YOU GO.

>> THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE A DIRECTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD ON?

>> AS I SAID AND I WILL REITERATE IT. I BIGGEST CONCERN THAT WE ARE NOT PUTTING ANY MORE WATER INTO AN AREA THAT HAS ALREADY SEEN SOME PROBLEMS. WE SORT OF NARROWED IT DOWN, IT'S ON THEIR SIDE OF THE FENCE IN TERMS OF THE THE HOMEOWNERS.

WE NEED TO HAVE THAT TAKEN A LOOK AT WHETHER IT IS THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY OR THE HOA. IF IT'S THE HOA THEY HAVE TO DO IT THEMSELVES.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING WOULD BE THE BUFFER. I THINK THE PRIVACY CONCERNS ON THE BUFFER CONCERNS ARE BIG. WE ARE GETTING, YOU KNOW, REASSURANCE FROM THE APPLICANT THAT THAT WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF. I WILL TAKE THEM WITH THEIR WORD.

HAVING WORKED WITH ESTHER GARRISON. I KNOW HE STANDS BY HIS WORD.

SO, UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE FOLLOW STAFF APPROVAL AND MOVE AHEAD TO GO AHEAD AND

CHANGE THE ZONING ON THE 6.93 ACRES. >> HAVE A SECOND THOUGHT.

JUST A COMMENT, TOO. IN THE PAST WE HAVE HAD SOME COMPANIES THAT HAVE NOT NECESSARILY LIVED UP TO WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO. WE HAVE SHUT THEM DOWN AND SAID NO MORE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY SPREAD WE HAVE TAKEN AGGRESSIVE ACTIONS WHEN THEY DIDN'T -- LIKE THEY HAD FLOODING ISSUES AND THAT KIND OF THING. WE WOULD DO THE SAME, I WOULD ANTICIPATE. WE TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY TO& FOLLOW UP AND DO WHAT THEY SAY

THEY'RE GOING TO DO. >> MAY ASK FOR A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

WE ARE DEALING WITH ITEM NUMBER 21 WHICH WOULD BE THE LAND-USE AS OPPOSED TO ZONING.

MAKE SURE IT REFLECTS THE LAND USE IT. >> I CHANGE MY MOTION TO

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ACCOMMODATE THE LAND USE. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION WERE GOING TO CALL FOR A VOTE ON THIS ISSUE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I. OPPOSED? SO DONE. OKAY. NOW WE CAN MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 22. ARE WE THROUGH A 21? OKAY.

[22.  5:00 Time Certain or as soon thereafter as can be heard: Public Hearing To Consider Rezoning Application Z-20-07 AR & BA-2 To BB-2 (PC Voted 6-0 to Approve)]

ITEM 22. CHAD? >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. REZONING APPLICATION Z-20-07 AR & BA-2 TO BB-2 (PC VOTED 6-0 TO APPROVE) IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL, USED TO BE RULE FRINGED FOR FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY. REQUESTING A CHANGE IN ZONING TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY WITH TWO FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS AND OTHER FUTURE USES.

TO THE NORTH. [INAUDIBLE] THIS IS PROBABLY WHAT EVERYBODY CAME TO SEE. THIS IS THE AFOREMENTIONED SITE PLAN. WHICH SHOWS WHERE THE WETLANDS ARE DELINEATED ALONG THE REAR LINE THERE AND WHERE THE TWO RESTAURANTS ARE BEING PROPOSED AND WHERE THE RESIDUAL DEVELOPMENT ACRES IS LOCATED. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION TO DETERMINE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH COMP PLAN AND THIS RUNNING WITH THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. >> DO WE NEED TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS? PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW OPEN FOR THE AUDIENCE.

HEARING THEN. PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW CLOSED. [INAUDIBLE]

OKAY, MR. OTTO, GO AHEAD. >> YES, SIR,. [INAUDIBLE] HOW MUCH THEY IS LEFT IN THE COUNTY IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW? THAT IS WHAT THE COUNTY IS ALL ABOUT IS AR. YOU TOOK A BUNCH OF OUR TAX MONEY AND TOLD SOMEONE TO TELL YOU THAT, OKAY. I CAN STAND UP HERE 2-4 TIMES, IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES BUT HOW COME HERE FOR THE ENTIRE EXPORT, JUST LIKE THE LAST TWO BOARDS, OKAY? SOME CITIZENS MAY ONLY WATCH THIS ONE AGENDA ITEM.

SO I MAY REPEAT MYSELF AT THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS TOLD THAT WE WERE REALLY GOING TO BE SEEING ANY MORE THAT THE COUNTY HAD ALL OF IT BB.

I'M KIND OF AT A LOSS WHY WE ARE ZONING MORE BB IN THE AREA. MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD.

MAYBE IT'S JUST THE V.A. THAT YOU WERE NOT GOING TO DO ANYMORE, THAT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. I WOULD LIKE THE FOLKS TO GO BACK AND CHECK OUT THE PUBLIX ON 21 WHERE THEY MADE A ROAD THROUGH THE PARKING LOTS, THAT YOU ALL HAVE TALKED ABOUT NUMEROUS TIMES. THAT IS WHAT YOU GUYS ARE OPENING UP.

HERE TRYING TO BUILD ALL OF THIS STUFF AROUND US. ALL OF THESE ROADS AT THE SAME TIME IN TO DISTRICTS. VERY LITTLE OF THAT $129 MILLION IS GOING TO ANYWHERE BUT TO PARTS OF THIS COUNTY. TO MAKE THE WHOLE COUNTY PAY FOR THESE TWO AREAS, FOR THESE PEOPLE THAT OWN LAND AND WANT TO BUILD THEIR, TO PUSH PUSH PUSH. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OLD HARD ROAD THAT FILL THIS PLACE UP. I MEAN, I HOPE THESE FOLKS GO BACK AND REALLY LOOK AT THE STORMWATER ISSUES THAT WE HAVE. WE VOTED DOWN THAT TAX. WE GOT TAXPAYERS MONEY BEING SPENT TO BUY OUT CITIZENS HOMES. THESE TAXPAYERS ARE BUYING 300,000-DOLLAR PROPERTIES THAT ARE GOING TO DO NOTHING, NOTHING FOR THIS COUNTY. AS YOU KEEP BUILDING AND TEARING

OUT TREES -- >> MR. OTTO, LET ME STOP YOU THERE.

YOU ARE STRAYING FROM THE POINT. IF YOU COULD GET BACK TO THE SPECIFIC ITEM ON HAND.

I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. >> SO, BASICALLY, I WOULD REALLY LIKE THE BOARD TO TELL US, ON ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO RIGHT NOW, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO BE DONE WITHOUT YOU BURNING THE $129 MILLION? I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THESE EXACT AREAS. NOBODY WANTS ANOTHER BLANEY BOULEVARD.

YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING UP TO PARTS OF THIS COUNTY THAT IS GOING TO EFFECT THIS WHOLE COUNTY. IT'S NOT REALLY BRINGING UP THE PROPERTY VALUES IN MR. ROWLANDS

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AREA. >> YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS PAY THESE APPROVALS. IT'S NOT FAIR FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTY, SIR.

>> SIT DOWN. >> ALRIGHT, BRINGING IT BACK TO THE BOARD.

PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW OVER. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND CHANGE THE ZONING TO BB-2.

>> SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I. OPPOSED? SO DONE.

MOVING ON TO ITEM 23. YES, 23. CAROLINE, I BELIEVE THAT IS YOU.

[23.  5:00 Time Certain or as soon thereafter as can be heard:Public Hearing to consider amending from Rural Residential to Commercial at 4265 CR 218 (P.C. voted 5-0 to recommend denial)]

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THIS IS ALSO A SMALL-SCALE AMENDMENT FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL. THE APPLICATION IS FOR THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY AT 4265 COUNTY ROAD 218. THE PROPERTY IS BORDERED BY SOUTH DOLPHIN AVENUE ON THE EAST TO, AND ANGORA STREET ON THE SOUTH. THE WHOLE PARCEL IS 1.9 ACRES.

THE EXISTING DESIGNATION IS RURAL, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL. YOU CAN SEE, UM, THIS LINE OF RESIDENTIAL USE, THE YELLOW IS THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL, IT IS CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THIS AREA.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS RIGHT HERE UM IN THIS LOCATION. THIS IS SOUTH DOLPHIN AVENUE HERE. , A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN HALF IS COMMERCIAL AND THE SOUTHERN PART IS RESIDENTIAL AS ARE ALL OF THESE OTHER PARCELS WITH A SIMILAR DESIGNATION.

THE UM -- THIS IS A VIEW OF THE SITE THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDERDEVELOPED.

RURAL RESIDENTIAL HAS A BASE DENSITY OF ONE DWELLING UNIT PER 5 ACRES AND ONE DWELLING UNIT NET ACRE WITH DENSITY BONUS POINTS. THE DENSITY BONUS POINTS ARE RELATED TO YOUR PROXIMITY TO SCHOOLS, AND UM FIRE SERVICES AND EMERGENCY SERVICES AND PAVED ROADS. UM IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE WATER AND SERVICE AREA.

SOLID WASTE CAPACITY IS AVAILABLE. WE DIDN'T HAVE A SPECIFIC USE IT THAT MENTIONED. WE JUST ASSUMED THE WAREHOUSE TYPE USE, BECAUSE THAT IS PRIMARILY WHAT WE SEE ALONG THERE. SO THEY'RE POTENTIALLY COULD GENERATE 8.77 TRIPS PER ACRE. THE COUNTY HAS RECREATION CAPACITY, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT WOULD BE REQUIRED. AND, THE STAFF FINDS THE REAR ORIENTATION BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATIONS IS PREFERRED. WHAT THIS WOULD DO IS ESSENTIALLY UM, IF IT WENT TO THE HALF PROPERTY LINE, THEN RESIDENTIAL FACING ANGORA STREET WOULD HAVE A REAR ORIENTATION TO THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY FACING COUNTY ROAD 218.

IF IT COMES ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO ANGORA STREET. YOU ARE LIKELY TO ASSUME THAT THE FRONTAGE OF THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE ON COUNTY ROAD 218, AND THE BACK WOULD THEN BE FACING THE FRONT OF SOMEBODY'S HOUSE ON ANGORA STREET. THAT IS NOT A DESIRED LAND-USE ORIENTATION. STAFF RECOMMENDED DENIAL, AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION UM ALSO ACCEPTED THAT RECOMMENDATION AND RECOMMENDED

TO DENY. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE. >> OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT? MR. MIDDLETON, IF YOU WOULD BEAR WITH A. LET'S GET OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS AND AND THEN WE WILL GO TO YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR. ANYONE HERE TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THIS PROPOSAL?

>> YES, SIR,. [INAUDIBLE] I LOOK FORWARD TO GOING TO TALLAHASSEE MORE THIS YEAR THAN I DID LAST YEAR. WE WILL SEE WHO IS MORE KNOWN

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[INAUDIBLE] I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF COMING TO THE SAME MEETINGS AND IS JUST THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER, APPROVING STUFF THAT THIS COUNTY REALLY CANNOT HANDLE.

HONESTLY. THERE'S A GENTLEMAN HERE THAT SAYS I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT WATER TONIGHT. IN A VERY SHORT TIME. I WOULD SAY HE JUST STARTED LEARNING ABOUT IT. IF YOU LOOK AT CLAYCOUNTY POV.COM AND WATCH THE STREAMING VIDEOS YOU WILL LEARN A LOT ABOUT IT. YOU WILL LEARN ABOUT HOW THESE GIVE FULL OVER STORM DRAIN WATER. DON'T SAY THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. LOOK AT WHAT YOU ARE PROVING TODAY. WHEN YOU CUT DOWN TREES, WHEN YOU ADD DRIVEWAYS, YOU HAD ROOF YOU ADD RUNOFF. A FIFTH GRADER COULD DO IT. THEY WOULD PROBABLY UNDERSTAND THAT THAN THE FAIRGROUND BEING BUILT. YOU KNOW, I WOULD ASK THE CITIZENS TO GO BACK AND REALLY WATCH THAT PRESENTATION FROM MR. I MEAN, HE REALLY PAINTED THIS COUNTY IS A REALLY NICE PLACE. YOU KNOW, BIKE PATHS WHERE KIDS ARE NOT GETTING HITS ON THE STREETS. SO WHAT YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF BUILDERS PITCHING A COUPLE OF SIDEWALKS IN. THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUILDING THEM ALL ALONG.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX. THE GOVERNOR SAID YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE A PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX. GUESS WHAT? IF YOU DON'T HAVE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX, YOU SHOULD NOT BE BUILDING ALL OF THESE PARKS AND EVERYTHING FOR ALL OF THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU ARE DOING. LET THE HMOS DO IT. IF THEY WANT A PLAYGROUND OR

SOMETHING, LET THEM BUILD IT. >> YOU'RE GETTING OFF TOPIC HERE, MR. OTTO.

>> ALL RIGHT. I WOULD JUST BAKE THE CITIZENS TO GO BACK AND RE- WATCHING THE STREAMING VIDEOS ON ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT THIS COUNTY HAS HAD THROUGH THE LAST TWO FULL BOARDS. MR. DAVIS, WENDELL DAVIS THAT SHARED THIS BOARD, TOLD YOU BEFORE HE LEFT IT YOU HAD SOME HARD TIMES. HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS WERE FACING, OKAY? ME SITTING OUT HERE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU ARE SPENDING THE MONEY THAT YOU ARE? A REALLY HONESTLY DON'T. THESE PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THERE IS A WAY TO GO TO SAINT AUGUSTINE WITHOUT PAYING THE TOLL.

>> YOUR TIME IS UP, SIR. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. HEARING NONE.

I'M SORRY, THE APPLICANT. I GOT SO ENAMORED WITH THAT LAST PRESENTATION I LOST WHERE I WAS.

[LAUGHTER] >> CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, MADAM COUNTY ATTORNEY, JAMES MIDDLETON OF STG THE OWNERS OF THIS 3.77 ACRES PARCEL.

IT'S GOT ONE PARCEL NUMBER. IT HAS BEEN ZONED PART COMMERCIAL, I MEAN, LAND-USE COMMERCIAL, AND PART RURAL RESIDENTIAL. WE ARE SEEKING A SMALL COMP PLAN TO CONFORM THE ENTIRE PARCEL THAT COUNTY ROADS TO 18 AND DIRECTLY EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY YOU HAVE A DOLLAR GENERAL STORE. ANOTHER FACT TO CONSIDER IS, A LETTER RECENTLY RETAINED BY THE CLIENT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAND UP TO THE BOARD FROM THE COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER. DATED JULY 21, 2020. ADDRESSED TO ONE OF MY CLIENTS, MR. FREEMAN BROOKS. THE PROPERTY APPRAISER CONFIRMS THAT THE REFERENCED PARCEL OF 3.77 ACRES HAS BEEN TAXED, AND ASSESSED AS A BUSINESS DISTRICT, INTERMEDIATE BUSINESS DISTRICT, ZONED DB. THE ENTIRETY OF THE 3.77 ACRES FOR ALL 13 YEARS THAT THEY HAVE

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WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS THE RESERVATION BY THE COUNTY OF APPROXIMATELY 1.7 ACRES, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING TO HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO COMMERCIAL. AND, WE HAVE SOME OTHER EXAMPLES THAT ARE PRESENT HERE, IF YOU DROVE JUST WEST OF THE BALLFIELDS, AND MR. BROOKS IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE BALLFIELDS AND THE ACCESS ANGORA BEHIND THERE.

THERE IS ANOTHER PROPERTY, THE MURPHY PROPERTY IS WHAT I'M GOING TO REFER TO IT AS THAT IS OWNED COMMERCIAL. THERE IS THREE PICTURES HERE, FROM THE CLAY COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE. THAT IS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE BALLFIELD AS YOU RUN DOWN COUNTY ROAD 218 WESTWARD. OUR PROPERTY IS EASTWARD. AND, YOU WILL SEE, A BB WRITTEN IN BY MY OTHER CLIENT, JEFFREY DYSON WHO DID SOME OF THE RESEARCH HERE.

I DO HAVE A FIRST PAGE OF A LETTER WRITTEN TO HER FROM CLAY COUNTY DATED JULY 17, 2020, SHARON MURPHY FOR THESE PARCELS THAT ARE LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD 218 TO VERIFY THAT THESE PARCELS, AND THEY IDENTIFIED IN THE REFERENCE ABOVE, THERE ARE THREE OF THEM.

THEY ARE ZONED, OR LAND USE DESIGNATION COMMERCIAL. THIS SHOWS THAT BEYOND THE 300 FEET, THE BB THAT IS DOWN THERE, INCLUDES, THANK YOU, SIR, COMMERCIAL.

OUR STREETS, DOLPHIN, IF YOU HEADED TO THE BACK PART OF THE PROPERTY, IT WOULD BE, IMMEDIATELY OPPOSITE OF A CHURCH PROPERTY USE IT THERE. SO, IF YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE MURPHY PROPERTY THAT IS JUST WEST OF THE BALLFIELDS, WE ARE JUST EAST OF THE BALLFIELDS.

HE WAS SEE THE BALLFIELDS AND BOTH OF THESE PICTURES OF OUR PROPERTY AND THE MURPHY PROPERTY. THE CONFIRMATION THAT THE MURPHY PROPERTY IS ALL COMMERCIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION, AND THE FACT THAT FOR 13 YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN PAYING COMMERCIAL TAXES ON THIS.

WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST APPROVAL BY THE COUNTY COMMISSION TO GET THE LAND USE DESIGNATION TO CONFORM WITH THE TAXATION FROM EXCEPTION. I WILL HAVE MR. BROOKS ADDRESS.

THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS FREEMAN BROOKS. I LIVE AT 3500 WESTOVER ROAD.

BEFORE WE PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY 13 YEARS AGO, WE WENT UP TO ZONE IT AND ASKED WHAT THE ZONING WAS ON IT. THEY SAID BB. IT'S NOT ONLY THEY TOLD US THIS, BUT THEY MUST HAVE TOLD THE PROPERTY APPRAISED OF. BECAUSE ALL OF THESE 13 YEARS, AND EVEN BEFORE WE BOUGHT IT, IT WAS ALL ONE PARCEL, AND IT WAS ALL ZONED BB.

THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN PAYING TAXES ON, AND WE GOT READY TO DO SOMETHING, AFTER 13 YEARS, AND WE FIND OUT, NO, THE BACK TO ACRES, OR ROUGHLY 2 ACRES IS NOT ZONED BB.

WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GET THE LAND-USE CHANGED TO COMMERCIAL, SO THAT WE CAN THEN THINK ABOUT GETTING THE REZONING DONE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I

WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM. >> WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE DOING WITHOUT?

I KNOW YOU DON'T KNOW EXACTLY BUT GENERAL IDEAS. >> WE DO KNOW EXACTLY.

AN RV AND BOAT TRAILER STORAGE. >> OKAY. >> OKAY.

THE BACK ROAD IS ANGORA, THAT IS A DIRT ROAD. IT GOES BEHIND THE PROPERTY, AND OUT TO SOME MOBILE HOMES, AND OUT TO THE BACK OF THE PARK THERE.

WHICH IS A NICE PARK, IT GETS A LOT OF USE. >> MR. BROOKS?

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WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO MAKE YOUR EGRESS ON 218 AND DOLPHIN AS OPPOSED TO USING THE BACK ROAD?

>> YES, SIR. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A RETENTION POND.

IT IS HIGH AND, THANK YOU THAT THERE IS NO WETLANDS ON IT. WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE A RETENTION POND. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, WE CAN PUT A RETENTION POND BACK THERE NO MATTER WHAT THE ZONING IS. WE WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE ZONED WHERE IT'S UPFRONT.

>> OKAY. >> BOTH OUR STAFF AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DENIED THIS.

WHY DO YOU THINK THEY MADE A MISTAKE? >> I DON'T THINK THEY MADE A MISTAKE. IN FACT THE REGULATIONS THAT IT IS NOW, I CAN SEE THEM RECOMMENDING NOT APPROVAL. BUT, THE FACT IS, WE BOUGHT IT, WE DID OUR HOMEWORK, WE FOUND OUT WHAT THE ZONING WAS, AND IT WAS TOLD TO US THAT IT WAS BB. IT IS ONE PARCEL NUMBER WITH 3.77 ACRES. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR?

>> I'M NOT SURE. THE CONTENTION IS, IT IS BB, MOST OF IT IS BB, SOMEBODY MADE

A MISTAKE AND IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE? >> THIS IS THE LAND-USE HEARING.

THE LAND IS SPLIT. IT IS COMMERCIAL AT THE NORTHERN END OF THE PROPERTY.

THE RURAL AND RESIDENTIAL, WE ARE NOT HAVING THE ZONING HEARING AT THIS MOMENT.

THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT ITEM WITH MR. WILLIAMS. >> WHY IS THERE A DIFFERENCE OF

OPINION? >> WHAT IS THE MAIN CONCERN FROM STAFF IF IT IS APPROVED?

>> OBVIOUSLY OUR STAFF AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING. >> THERE'S TWO THINGS GOING ON HERE. THEY MENTION THE FAMILY DOLLAR. THE FAMILY DOLLAR ONLY GOES TO THE MIDPOINT IN THAT BLOCK. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP, CAN YOU PUT UP THE MAPS AGAIN? AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP, THE FAMILY DOLLAR IS ON THE PROPERTY ON THE EAST EAST SIDE OF DOLPHIN AVENUE, AND IT'S ONLY MID BLOCK SIZE PROPERTY. YOU STILL HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION TO THE SOUTH WHICH, AS HE POINTED OUT, THE ZONING ALLOWS A CHURCH.

THERE IS NO CHURCH THERE TODAY. I WILL.OUT TO YOU THAT WE ALLOW CHURCHES IN EVERY ZONING DISTRICT IN THIS COUNTY. IF YOU THINK BECAUSE YOU ALLOW A CHURCH SOME PLACE, THE PROPERTY SURROUNDING IT ALL HAVE TO BE COMMERCIAL, WERE IN BIG TROUBLE. A CHURCH IS A CONSISTENT THING IN MOST NEIGHBORHOODS, AND IT IS CONSISTENT IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS AS BEING SOMETHING THAT IS FRIENDLY TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA, EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT ACTUALLY RESIDENTIAL.

THE PROPOSAL HERE, YOU'VE GOT HOUSES FACING FROM ANGORA STREETS, AND I WOULD POINT OUT THAT MIDDLEBURG IS A MIXTURE OF A BUILT HOUSES AND MOBILE HOMES. AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, THE PEOPLE IN MIDDLEBURG ARE SATISFIED WITH THAT MIXTURE. THEY DON'T SEEM TO GET UPSET ABOUT BUILDING A VERY NICE HOUSE NEXT TO AN EXISTING MOBILE HOME. I DON'T THINK FOR US TO JUDGE THAT THERE IS SOMETHING INAPPROPRIATE ABOUT THAT MIXTURE OF USES COMPARED TO OTHER KINDS

OF NEIGHBORHOODS. >> OKAY. >> I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY CONCERN FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT IT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THERE ISN'T. I JUST HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY FEEDBACK ON IT. IN TERMS OF -- WHAT KIND OF BUFFER AND WHAT KIND OF OFFSET

IS REQUIRED FOR THE RV STORAGE? >> WELL, PUT A BUFFER BACK THERE, AND WE WOULDN'T USE ACCESS TO THAT ROAD. WE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO DOLPHIN, AND 218.

THERE WOULD BE NO TRAFFIC COMING ON THAT ROAD TO OUR BUSINESS. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. FREEMAN OR HIS ATTORNEY? 1020 ALSO, WHEN WE HAD THE HEARING THAT WAS SCHEDULED FOR THE ZONING UM FOR THE LAND-USE, THERE WAS NO ONE THAT CALLED, AS FAR AS I KNOW, CALLED OR

COMPLAINED ABOUT WHAT WE WAS GOING TO DO THERE. >> I UNDERSTAND OUR PROPERTY

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13, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. SO YOU ARE EATING THAT 10 YEARS

OF TAXES, BASICALLY? >> YES. >> YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE AND LOOKED AT THAT. WHEN SHE TOLD ME THERE WAS GOING TO BE NO EGRESS ON ANGORA.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT CONCLUSIVE BY ANY STRETCH OF THE

IMAGINATION. >> I TEND TO, YOU KNOW, THINK WE NEED MORE COMMERCIAL IN CLAY COUNTY. WE HAVE PLENTY OF RESIDENTIAL. AS LONG AS RESIDENTIAL IS NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACTED. I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO HEAR IF ANYONE HERE HAS ANY CONCERNS THAT THIS WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT RESIDENTIAL. I MEAN, IS IT JUST THAT

RESIDENTS WERE NOT TO SEE RV BOAT STORAGE? >> WELL, I'M GETTING THIS FRONT TO BACK SITUATION. ARE YOU ESSENTIALLY HAVE THE BACK OF A PROPERTY, AS COMPARED TO THE LANDSCAPE, PRETTY PART OF COMMERCIAL USE. USUALLY THE BACK IS NOT NEARLY AS NICE TO LOOK AT. SECOND OF ALL, IF YOU DO IT TO THIS PROPERTY, CHANCES ARE, THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO ALSO THINK THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO EXTEND BACK, OR BY THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH OF THEM TO EXTEND BACK. YOU POTENTIALLY ARE EXTENDING YOUR ENTIRE ROW OF COMMERCIAL ALONG 218 ALL THE WAY BACK TO ANGORA STREET.

AND THEN EVERYBODY THAT HAS A HOUSE FACING ANGORA STREET FROM THE SOUTH SIDE IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IT. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF HOUSES EXISTING.

IT'S JUST NOT THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND. >> I UNDERSTAND THE SLIPPERY SLOPE IDEA. LET'S SAY WE JUST DON'T TO THAT ADDITIONAL, BECAUSE WE SAY THAT

IMPACTS HOUSES TOO MUCH. IF IT IS JUST THIS PROPERTY -- >> HOW CAN YOU SAY IT IS JUST

THAT PROPERTY, ONCE YOU HAVE DONE IT? >> BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY TO

THE RESIDENTIAL. >> THIS PROPERTY IS AS EASILY SPLIT AS ANY OTHER PROPERTY.

THERE'S NO REASON THEY CANNOT PUT A RESIDENTIAL UNIT ON AN ACRE AND SAVE THE .9 ACRES TO THE NORTH. JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HAS. WE'VE DONE COMMERCIAL ALONG 218

PRETTY SUCCESSFULLY, WHICH IS THE FRONT PART OF THE BLOCK. >> WHAT I AM SAYING IS SEPARATE

FROM WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN TO OTHER PARCELS IN THE FUTURE. >> ON SOMEONE'S EXISTING RESIDENTIAL USE. THERE IS AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL USE TO THE SOUTH.

>> OKAY. >> MR. MIDDLETON, YOU HAD SOMETHING, SIR?

>> YES. IN REGARDS TO THE COMMENTS RELATED TO DOLLAR GENERAL, THE CHURCH. THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PARCELS. WE HAVE ONE PARCEL, THE TAXATION HAS BEEN CONSISTENT AND UNIFORM FOR THE ENTIRE 13 YEARS. I THINK COME ON THAT BASIS ALONG WITH THE MURPHY PROPERTY, WHICH IS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE GOLDFIELDS THAT YOU CAN SEE ON BOTH OF THE TWO EXAMPLES OF 40 TO 65, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND THE MURPHY PROPERTY THAT IS AT 4369, I BELIEVE ON COUNTY ROAD 218. THEY EXTEND THE ON THE 300 FEET

OVER TO BLEWETT COURT. >> YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENT MAKES MISTAKES.

UNDER THE CURRENT STATE OF AFFAIRS, THEY'RE USUALLY THE LAST ONES TO ADMIT TO IT, OR APOLOGIZE FOR IT OR RECTIFY IT. I THINK IN THIS CASE, THEY SHOULD BE THE FIRST.

BEING CHARGED FOR TAXES FOR 10 YEARS WITH NO COMPENSATION. YOU BOUGHT THE PROPERTY UNDER ONE SET OF TERMS. THAT IS VERY EGREGIOUS. THAT SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO MAINTAIN AS IT IS. WHERE IN A POSITION TO MAKE IT RIGHT.

THAT WOULD BE MY FINAL THOUGHT ON IT. >> I TEND TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER HENRY. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF THE RIPPLE EFFECT.

THAT CAN ULTIMATELY, THE RIPPLE EFFECT CAN BE DENIED FOR VARIOUS REASONS, BECAUSE NOT ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES HAVE THE SAME HISTORY AT PRECEDENT OF BEING PAID IN AS A CERTAIN ON A

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>> I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT. FENCES CAN BE NOT SO GREAT. I THINK HAVING SOME LANDSCAPING

WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD EXPECT. >> THE OTHER ASPECTS, HE CAN PUT A STORAGE POND WHEREVER HE LIKES IT. IF HE COULD FORMULATE THE STORAGE POND TOWARD THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY WITH SOME TREES, AND A POND, IT MIGHT BE NICE. THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THE USAGE IS

NOT VERY INTENSIVE IN TERMS OF STORING BOATS AND RVS. >> THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE A

LOT OF TRAFFIC. >> THE BOTTOM LINE IS HE HAS TO DO SOME WORK IN TERMS -- DO YOU

PLAN ON PAVING OR GRAVEL? >> IT WOULDN'T BE PAVEMENT AND IT WOULD BE ASPHALT.

I MEAN, I DON'T PRETEND TO BE SMARTER THAN OUR STAFF, AND OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE THOSE PEOPLE FOR A REASON. I'M GOING TO SUPPORTS WHATEVER

THEY DECIDE OR RECOMMEND. >> I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE LOOKING AT KIND OF THE REGULATION SAYS.

WE ARE LOOKING AT A ONE-OFF SECTION -- EXCEPTIONAL SCENARIO. TRAN28 IS NOT GOING TO BE A

ONE-OFF. >> SHE IS ASSUMING A FUTURE HYPOTHETICAL WHICH WE HAVE A

POWER TO NOT LET HAPPEN. >> AFTER TAXES, WE CAN REBATE THE TAX SOMEHOW AND GIVE THEM THE MONEY BACK. THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOREVER.

>> HE HAS A NONCOMPLIANT LOT IF IT'S HALF OF ONE AND HALF OF THE OTHER.

AND THEN HIS OWN FOR SOMETHING OTHER. IT'S NOT LIKE WERE TALKING ABOUT

TWO DIFFERENT PARCELS. >> HE CAN SPLIT THEM UP WITH A RESIDENTIAL USE ON THE SOUTH PORTION. JUST MAYBE NOT AS MUCH ACRES AS HE WANTS FOR HIS MOBILE HOME

STORAGE, OR HIS RV STORAGE. >> JED, YOU ARE WAITING TO SAY SOMETHING?

>> IF I COULD ADD TO IT. MR. BROOKS WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH, WE DID NOT KNOW HOW THIS IS GOING TO GO. THE APPLICATION THAT YOU WOULD HAVE HER TONIGHT FOR THE ZONE INCOME HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN. THEY ARE GOING TO COME BACK AND DO THAT IF THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL WITH A LAND USE. I WANT TO TOUCH ON THE TOPIC OF THE RV AND BOAT STORAGE.

IF YOU CHOOSE TO LET THAT GET THROUGH, THAT IS A CONDITIONAL USE WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT. THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE REQUIRED BY CODE.

THERE ARE PLANTINGS, OPEN SPACE. THERE IS A SMALL BIT OF PAVING THAT DOES NEED TO BE DONE.

IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE IT. THERE'S ALSO AREAS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SET ASIDE.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MEET THE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CONDITIONAL USE

SECTION. >> YOU MIGHT SAY BLOCKERS HELP THE COUNTY SEE THAT THEY NEED A

>> YEAH. I WILL SAY THIS AS NICE AS I CAN COME I THINK THAT IS WHAT

PROMPTED OUR REGULATION. >> FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> I WILL MOVE THAT WE GRANT THE

LAND REGULATION CHANGE. >> I WILL SECOND IT. >> FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I. OPPOSED? THE CHAIR VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. VERY GOOD. I'LL WE GOING TO ITEM 24 WHICH

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IS THE OTHER HALF OF THIS. >> IT HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN. THEY WILL COME BACK WITH A

DIFFERENT APPLICATION. >> OKAY. IT IS A FULL WITHDRAWAL THAN?

THANK YOU, CHAD. ITEM 25. >> EVEN THOUGH WE ARE CONTINUING 24, DOES THAT STILL HAVE TO BE -- WITHDRAWING INSTEAD? THANK YOU.

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APPRECIATE IT. >> ITEM 25. PUBLIC HEARING TO AMEND THE

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>> THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE IS MS. FRAZIER REPRESENTING ARMSTRONG VENTURES LLC.

THIS WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE SEVENTH. IT IS TO AMEND THE VILLAGES OF ARGYLE, DRI 2020-01 FROM PARCEL 498249B, CREATING AN AREA FOR A DRIVEWAY AND SIGNAGE FOR A COMMERCIAL AREA AND WHAT WE CALL THE ADDED LANDS. ADDED TO THE VILLAGES OF ARGYLL IN THE EARLY 2000'S. THEY ARE BEING DEVELOPED NOW. THE NEW TAX PARCEL NUMBER IS JUST THIS 4.8 ACRES, CURRENT USE PRIOR TO BEING SPLIT WITH A LANDSCAPED AREA.

SO, THE AREA WE WOULD BE ADDING HERE IS EAST OF THE EXISTING STORMWATER POND.

ON THE PROPOSED LAND USE, THE DESIGNATION WILL BE MIXED USE WITHIN THE DRI.

HERE IS A MAP OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. WEST OF THE ROADWAY COMING INTO PARCEL 43. THAT IS PARCEL 43 C.& JUST THAT LITTLE EDGE.

[LAUGHTER] OAK LEAF VILLAGE PARKWAY, AND THE TOP OF THE RED LINE THERE IS WHAT THEY ARE ADDING. STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO THIS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION

ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. >> OKAY. DO WE NEED A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS? PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN ON THIS PROPOSAL.

>> SUSAN FRAZIER. THIS IS A MINOR AMENDMENT TO THE ARGYLL DRI.

IT IS LESS THAN A HALF AN ACRE. IT IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PUBLIC SAYS YOU GET OFF ON THE EXPRESSWAY. CURRENTLY THERE IS A STORMWATER POND.

THIS IS FOR RESIDENTIAL USE IMMEDIATELY TO OUR WEST. THIS IS A SMALL PARCEL, AND THE SITE PLAN YOU WILL CONSIDER THAT WILL FOLLOW THIS. WE ARE REQUIRED TO CHANGE THIS FROM A RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY TO A COMMERCIAL CATEGORY. WE CAN'T PUT A COMMERCIAL SIGN ON THE RESIDENTIAL PARCEL. THAT IS THE ONLY REASON WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS CHANGE.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WE WILL BE BACK FOR THE ZONING

WITH A SITE PLAN. >> IS THIS A PERMANENT OR TEMPORARY?

>> IT IS A PERMANENT SIGN. THIS DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH IS COMMERCIAL.

YOU GO DOWN THE PARKWAY. RATHER THAN GOING TO THE CORNER AND AROUND THE CORNER WE WILL BE

IT'S ALMOST LIKE AN ID SIGN. >> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? MR. OTTO.

>> YES, SIR. OH, MAN, I LOVE THE SIGN ISSUE. OH, BOY.

OH, BOY. CITIZENS, MAN, IF YOU WANT TO SEE SOME REAL GOOD MEETINGS, CHECK OUT THE SIGN MEETINGS. JUST SEARCH THAT UNDER THE SEARCH, AND UNDER THE CLAY -- CLAYCOUNTYGOV.COM. HONESTLY, WE NEED NEW STAFF WHEN THEY SAY THE 218 HAS SOMETHING

ON THE WEST SIDE OF A. >> AUTO, THAT IS YOUR FIRST WARNING AND IT WILL BE YOUR LAST. STAY ON POINT TO THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC OR I WILL CUT YOU OFF.

>> YES, SIR, I APPRECIATE IT. I WOULD DO IT AT THE END THE PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT I BELIEVE IT

FALLS UNDER THIS ALSO. >> CONVINCED ME. >> SPEAKING AT PUBLIX, I WOULD LIKE FOR EVERYBODY TO REMEMBER THE PUBLIC'S ON BLANEY BOULEVARD.

WHEN YOU OVERBUILD TO IT, THEY NOW USE THE PARKING LOT AS A ROAD.

THE CITIZENS CAN ALSO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE MEETINGS. WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THE

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WE DON'T NEED SOMEBODY WHO STEPS AGAINST OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

WE REALLY DON'T. I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE THERE, AND STAND UP FOR OUR RIGHTS. UM, AGAIN, -- I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE ANY OF MY MONEY FROM THE COUNTY ON THE CARES ACT AND SPEND IT ON THAT, OKAY. ALREADY READ THAT.

IT IS AN ISSUE. I'M GOING TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THAT.

SO, UM, ACTUALLY I REALLY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE ON THE 2181.

I HAD SO MUCH TO SAY ABOUT THAT. AGAIN, I WOULD REALLY ASK FOR THE CHAIR CALLED THE VOTES.

IF IT'S A 3-2, OR 3-0, NOT JUST A PASS OR FAIL. I WANT TO SEE SOME TRANSPARENCY FROM THIS BOARD, AND THE BOARD. I WANT TO SEE THE SUNSHINE LAW KEPT.

OKAY? WE ARE GOING TO SEE GOOD THINGS. >> YOU ARE DONE, SIR.

SIT DOWN. I'VE ASKED YOU THREE TIMES TO STAY ON POINT BRADY HAVE YET TO

GET BACK TO IT. HAVE A SEAT, MR. OTTO. >> I RESPECT THAT.

>> WHERE ARE WE? >> PUBLIC COMMENT. >> ANYBODY ELSE? SEEING THEN. BACK TO THE BOARD. ANY LAST THOUGHTS OR DISCUSSIONS

WE NEED TO ADDRESS? >> I MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I. OPPOSED? SO DONE.

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THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL SHADE OF PINK. I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE SOCKS TO MATCH TONIGHT. [LAUGHTER] WE DON'T NEED TO LOOK AT THEM.

ANYWAY. >> THEY ARE CUTE. >> YOU ARE DRESSED WELL.

>> HOPEFULLY THIS IS THE EASIEST PUD YOU WILL EVER SEE. 20-01.

CHANGING THE ZONING FROM PUD TO PUD.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? HEARING NINE. BACK TO THE BOARD. YOUR PLEASURE, LADIES AND

GENTLEMEN. >> MOVED FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I. OPPOSED? 4-0.

>> WE HAVE A LOT OF AGENDA. >> I LIKE YOUR THINKING. [LAUGHTER]

TRAN28 IS GOING TO BE A LATE SUPPER, NO DOUBT. >> I THOUGHT WE ALREADY APPROVE

[9.  Approval of donation of a surplus vehicle to Keystone Heights Airport Authority for use as a courtesy car]

THAT. WE DID. >> IN CONNECTION WITH ITEM NUMBER NINE, AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING THE BOARD VOTED TO DONATE THE SURPLUS A VEHICLE TO

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>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I. SO DONE. THANK YOU. UNDER NEW BUSINESS.

[11.  Acceptance of Maintenance of the Eagle Landing Phase 5B Subdivision]

DALE, ARE YOU STILL WITH US? >> HAS DALE WAS WALKING UP TO THE PODIUM, MR. CHAIRMAN, SO HE DOESN'T TRIP OVER -- EDWIN IS HERE, YOU WANT TO START US OFF? COME ON UP.

>> THIS IS A ROADWAY BOND PROGRAM MANAGER. THE ONE WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR

AND WAITING FOR. WE ARE EXTREMELY HAPPY. >> WILL LET HIM SPEAK ABOUT

THAT. >> AS EDWIN COMES UP TO THE PODIUM, 35 YEARS EXPERIENCE OF MUNICIPAL STRUCTURE. HE HAS WORKED IN PRIVATE INDUSTRY AS A MAJORITY OF HIS CAREER AT WORK FOR JA, AND THE JACKSONVILLE. HE WAS WITH JA FOR 18 YEARS.

I JUST SAY WOW, ALL THE THINGS HE WAS INVOLVED IN. ONE OF THE LAST THINGS WAS THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND BUSINESS CONTINUITY PROGRAM. HE HAS SOME EXCELLENT PASS TO EXPENSES. HIS EDUCATION, CERTIFICATION MASTERS IN CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT FOR COLLEGE ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURE AT FIU.

PROUD THAT HE HAS TWO SONS. ONE IS A FIREFIGHTER, CURRENTLY DEPLOYED INCHOATE AS AN ARMY RESERVIST. OF COURSE, HIS SECOND SON IS A NAVY LIEUTENANT.

[INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] >> TO THE BOARD, TO THE CHAIR.

I WILL KEEP IT BRIEF. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY SERVE THE COMMUNITY. THAT IS REALLY ALL I HAVE FOR NOW.

I THINK HE WILL SEE ME IN THE FUTURE. WITH OBVIOUSLY THE PROJECTS.

I'M STILL JUMPING IN THE DEEP END AND SWIMMING QUICK. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?

>> YES, SIR, HAVE YOU EVER HAD TO WORK WITH THIS MAN BEFORE? [LAUGHTER]

DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING INTO? >> AGAIN, I AM APPRECIATIVE OF THE OPPORTUNITY. I HAVE NOT DIRECTLY WORK, BUT WE HAVE WORKED IN AND AROUND EACH OTHER. THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS WE KNOW. WITH THE SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD.

I HAVE WORKED AROUND A LOT OF THE FOLKS. AGAIN, I DO APPRECIATE IT.

>> WE ARE GLAD TO HAVE YOU ABOARD, BROTHER. >> ALREADY ON HIS THIRD MEETING.

A LOT OF GREAT THINGS AHEAD. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> HE STARTED THE DAY BEFORE HE WAS SUPPOSED TO START. WE HAD A MEETING, THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE, AND HAD TO BRING HIM IN VIRTUALLY. I CALLED HIM A LITTLE BIT LATE AND HE HAD JUST GOT FINISHED CUTTING THE YARD. HE SPENT ALMOST THREE HOURS THE DAY BEFORE HE STARTED.

HE HAS HIT THE GROUND RUNNING. NOW WE NEED TO GET THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF TRAFFIC ENGINEERING AND I WILL BE EXTREMELY HAPPY. ANYWAY, THIS IS EAGLE LANDING PHASE 5B.

THE CONSTRUCTION IS FINISHED. WE ARE ASKING Y'ALL TO ACCEPT IT FOR MAINTENANCE WITH THE DURATION. WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO ACCEPT OUT, LET'S SEE COME ALTOGETHER, SIX LOTS ON THE SUBDIVISION. PART OF THE SUBDIVISION IS A CUT THROUGH ROAD FROM EAGLE LANDING OVER TO TINES. THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC THAN JUST THOSE SIX LOTS.

WE DID THIS EARLIER ON EAGLE ROCK. WE ARE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, ABOUT $119 PER YEAR IS WHAT IT WILL COST THE HOMEOWNERS TO SET UP THIS MSP.

>> THAT WILL BE EFFECTIVE FOR THE NEXT CALENDAR YEAR, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> RIGHT. AS YOU WILL RECALL, YOU HAVE COMING UP BEFORE YOU, AT THE END OF AUGUST, THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SUBDIVISION MS. WE HAD TO HAVE A CUT OFF DATE TO GET THE DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER.

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THIS SUBDIVISION WILL BE NEXT YEAR. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> FOR THE RECORD, MAKE SURE THE MINUTES REFLECT THAT THE LOTS THAT WILL BE EXEMPT FROM THE MSP YOU ARE LOTS ONE, TWO, 50, 191,

197, 198. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I. A POSTER OPPOSE?

[12.  Second Amendment to Agreement #2016/17-113 with Mercy Support Services, Inc.]

#2016/17-113 WITH MERCY SUPPORT SERVICES, INC. >> MRS. SUMNER ON BEHALF OF THEIR SHIP PROGRAM. REQUESTING APPROVAL FROM THE SECOND AMENDMENT WITH A MERCY SUPPORT SERVICES AGREEMENT. THIS WILL PROVIDE AN INCREASE OF THEIR ALLOCATION FROM $100,000 UP TO $300,000. IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW FOR AN ADVANCED PAYMENT TO THEM IN THE AMOUNT OF $100,000.

WEEK; RIGHT? >> PROCEDURALLY WHY IT IS BEING TO THE BOARD FOR THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, AS OPPOSED TO BEING PASSED ALONG UNDER CONSENT IS BECAUSE, AT THE TIME OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE IS WHEN IT WAS DETERMINED TO CHANGE IT FROM A REIMBURSEMENT BASIS TO GO AHEAD AND PROVIDE THE ADDITIONAL 100,000 DISBURSEMENT UPFRONT WHERE THEY CAN JUST SUBMIT DOCUMENTATION TO SHOW THAT THEY HAVE PROPERLY SPENT IT. WE JUST NEED TO CHANGE THE AGREEMENT TO BRING IN FRONT OF THE BOARD. THERE IS NOT A REQUEST FOR A

WAIVER. >> I WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT, PART OF OUR DISCUSSION OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING WAS THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT IT WAS TAKING TO GET REIMBURSEMENT BACK TO MERCY THE FACT WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON THEY GOING INTO THE RED.

>> VERY CONVOLUTED PROCESS. >> SLIGHTLY. IT IS LENGTHY.

>> IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I WILL MOVE THE APPROVAL OF THE ITEM FOR MERCY SUPPORT SERVICES.

>> SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I. OPPOSE? SO DONE. THANK YOU, LADIES. ITEM 13,

[13.  Resolution Amending Non-CIE Portion of the CIP]

RESOLUTION AMENDING NON-CIE PORTION OF THE CIP >> GOOD EVENING.

I AM BRINGING AMENDMENT NON- CIE PORTION OF THE CIP PLAN. WHERE WE TRY TO RESTORE THE 46,000 APPROVED FUNDING FOR KEYSTONE HEIGHTS TRAILHEAD PROJECT.

[INAUDIBLE] WE RECONCILE THE INTEREST FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 19/20 AND

RECOGNIZE THE FUNDING TO AFFORD THOSE REVISIONS. >> QUESTIONS?

>> I MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I.

[14.  CARES Act Update (Troy Nagle)]

[LAUGHTER] >> HOPEFULLY AM GOING TO TAKE 3-4 MINUTES.

WE HAD 2600 APPLICATIONS AS OF NOON TODAY. 400 PLUS A BUSINESS APPLICATIONS AS OF NOON TODAY. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT AS FAR AS APPLICATIONS INTO THE SYSTEM.

WE ARE STARTING TO PROCESS THOSE. MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD IS THAT, AS OF 5:00 P.M. TOMORROW, WE SHUT THE PROCESS OFF AND LET US PROCESS THROUGH THOSE APPLICATIONS AND SEE WHERE WE ARE AT IT INSTEAD OF CONTINUING TO TAKE APPLICATIONS OR GET IF ALL OF THOSE APPLICATIONS ARE APPROVED THAT WOULD EXHAUST THE $3 MILLION TO HAVE SET ASIDE AS PHASE ONE FOR BUSINESS AND RESIDENTIAL COMBINED.

THAT IS STILL THE $3 MILLION SET ASIDE. >> WHAT ABOUT ADDITIONAL

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NONPROFITS. >> I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO STOP ON THAT PART?

>> GO AHEAD. >> NO PROBLEM. UPDATE ON THE BUILDINGS.

THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT BUILDING, COURTNEY AND KAREN ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE BUYERS AGREEMENT.

FINALLY USING OUR BUILDOUT LANGUAGE. DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO

THAT? >> UM IT IS THE NOTICE OF INTENT.

WE ARE STILL WAITING ON THE APPRAISALS. WE ARE STILL IN THE INITIAL

PHASES WAITING ON THE APPRAISALS AND NAILING IT DOWN. >> THE WAREHOUSE APPRAISAL IS IN PROGRESS. ONCE THE APPRAISAL IS COMPLETE WE WILL DETERMINE THE NEXT STEPS AND BRING THEM BACK TO THE BOARD. THE INCUBATOR WE ARE LOOKING AT POTENTIAL BUILDINGS WITH THAT. WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH O'BRIEN WHO IS OUR CONSULTANT ON THE FEASIBILITY OF THAT. THEY'VE ACTUALLY BROUGHT A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE TO THE TABLE. WHICH HAS POTENTIALLY MORE DIFFERENT FUNDING AND MORE MONEY POTENTIALLY. WE ARE INVESTIGATING NOW IS A POTENTIAL SHIFT IN FUNDING.

WE WILL BRING THAT BACK TO YOU AS SOON AS WE KNOW MORE INFORMATION.

THAT IS THE ENTIRE CARE'S, SIR. NONPROFITS WE HAVE ISSUED THE CHECKS FOR THE FIRST 16.

WE HAD FIVE MORE SUBMIT. THEY ARE LISTED BELOW. WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF FOUR OF THOSE. AND MY KIDS, MERCY SUPPORT SERVICES, HICKORY GROVE BAPTIST EARLY LEARNING CENTER, AND ANSWERS RESOURCE FACILITY. THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 125,000 FOR THIS ROUND BRINGING YOUR TOTAL TO $651,405 TOTAL SO FAR FOR NONPROFITS.

HE ORIGINALLY ALLOCATED SEVEN AND $50,000. >> HAVE WE UM GOT ANY MORE

APPLICATIONS THAT ARE BEING PROCESSED NOW BEYOND THESE? >> THESE ARE IT -- THIS CATCHES

US UP AS OF NOON TODAY. >> ARE WE GOING TO DO MOTIONS FOR SPECIFIC THINGS, OR HOW DO

YOU WANT TO DO IT MR. CHAIRMAN? >> WELL, BEFORE I ANSWER THAT. GIVE US THE NONPROFITS AGAIN?

>> THE FOUR WE'RE DOING DOING TODAY? >> AMI KIDS, MERCY SUPPORT SERVICES, HICKORY GROVE BAPTIST EARLY LEARNING CENTER, AND ANSWERS RESOURCE FACILITY.

THESE ARE THE ADDITIONAL 4 ON TOP OF THE 16 THAT YOU APPROVED AT YOUR LAST BOARD OF COUNTY

COMMISSIONERS MEETING. >> THOUGH 16 HAVE BEEN FUNDED, DONE THEIR AGREEMENT.

THESE FOUR WOULD BE THE ONES THAT HAVE COME IN SINCE THEN AND HAVE BEEN VETTED.

AS I SAID, AS OF NOON TODAY THESE ARE THE FIVE THAT ARE IN AND WE ARE ASKING FOR APPROVAL

FOR THEM. >> IF YOU ENTERTAIN A MOTION WE CAN DO THE NONPROFITS.

I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE APPROVAL FOR THE NONPROFITS. >> MOTION SECONDED.

ANY QUESTIONS? >> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, ARE WE GOING TO REOPEN THAT UP FOR

NONPROFITS TO TRY TO FINISH UP THE ALLOCATION? >> THAT IS AT THE BOARD DISCRETION TO LEAVE IT OPEN AND TELL YOU EXHAUST THE OTHER HUNDRED THOUSAND.

>> I THINK I WOULD BE -- >> UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF THE NONPROFITS ARE BUSY TRYING TO STAY AFLOAT SO THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS PAYING ATTENTION AND WORKED AS ALWAYS GET OUT THERE.

>> I WILL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS LIST. THE REMAINING AMOUNT WE KEEP THE APPLICATION OPEN FOR ADDITIONAL NONPROFITS. TRAN28 JUST TO CLARIFY WE ARE

APPROVING THE FOUR, NOT THE FIFTH ONE? >> CORRECT.

>> THE FOUR RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I.

OPPOSED? THANK YOU. >> THEY MET WITH O'BRIEN TODAY WITH HIS STAFF. THEY HAD ASKED ORIGINALLY WE HAD SPOTTED 500,000 FOREBRAIN COVE.

THEY HAVE COME BACK ON THE PROJECT TOTAL IS 621,000. THAT WOULD BE UNDER THE ALLOCATION BASED ON POPULATION. IF IT PLEASES THE BOARD I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE WITH

HIM TO THE $621,000. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND-PERIOD.

>> FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I. OPPOSE?

THANK YOU. SO DONE. >> THE ONLY THING WE GO BACK TO IS IF IT IS THE BOARD PLEASURE WE WOULD LIKE TO SHUT THAT APPLICATION OFF TOMORROW AT 5:0G

INDIVIDUAL AND BUSINESS APPLICATIONS? >> YEAH, WE -- IF YOU LOOKED AT A LOT OF THESE, I MEAN, I ASSUME THAT MOST OF THEM ARE LEGITIMATE.

>> WE ARE GOING THROUGH THEM. I WOULD SAY A LOT OF THEM, YOU KNOW, ANY TIME YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE VALIDATION WE NEED AS FAR AS PAY STUBS, PROOF THAT YOU ARE AFFECTED BY COVERT -- COVID-19 PRAY THERE IS BACK-AND-FORTH AND FORTH WITH THESE APPLICANTS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION. I WILL SAY WITH 2600, THAT IS $2.6 MILLION, YOU ALLOCATED

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THAT IS ABOUT $1 MILLION WORTH OF FUNDING THAT SHE WOULD HAVE OUT THERE.

YOU ORIGINALLY ALLOCATED $2 MILLION FOR BUSINESSES. THAT IS WHY I SAID, WE ARE BASICALLY THE INVERSE OF WHAT MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO STOP, LET US REEVALUATE WHERE WE ARE AT, GET TO THE PROCESS. ALSO, THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO SUBMIT THE STATE SPENDING MONEY

TO WORK ON THE NEXT PHASE. >> MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD? WHAT WOULD YOUR RECOMMENDATION BE IN TERMS OF SHUTTING THE PROCESS DOWN GOOD HOW LONG WOULD YOU RECOMMEND?

>> I THINK IT REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW FAST WE CAN GET THE PROCESS& AND THE GUIDANCE THAT WE HAVE.

AS WE TALKED ABOUT THE CARES ACT, CONSTANTLY CHANGING. I MEAN, THERE IS CURRENT LEGISLATION OUT THERE TO POSSIBLY CHANGE IT MORE. SO, I THINK WHILE WE ARE GOING THROUGH THIS THAT WILL FLESH OUT THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE A COUPLE OF WEEKS. IF THESE PROCESSED AND THEN COME BACK TO YOU WITH REPRESENTATIONS

>> INSTEAD OF TURNING IT OFF, WHY DON'T WE CONTINUE TO ACCEPT APPLICATIONS AND SAY, AS OF THIS DATE, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO PROCESS AND THAT IT WILL GO TO THE NEXT PILE AFTER THAT.

WE JUST TAKE THEM ALL AND TELL THEM, HEY -- >> LIKE THEY ARE ON A WAITING

LIST. >> IF WE RUN OUT OF MONEY WE ARE GOING TO STOP.

IF WE GET MORE MONEY, WERE GOING TO GO DOWN THE LIST. THE APPLICATIONS ARE NOT GOING

TO CHANGE IT; RIGHT? >> I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THE APPLICATIONS ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE. MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT LEAVING THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS OPEN, IS ALL THOSE PEOPLE ARE THEN CALLING US ASKING US FOR STATUS UPDATES AND E-MAILING AND ASKING FOR STATUS UPDATES WHICH IS TAKING AWAY STAFF TIME OF PROCESSING WHAT IS ALREADY IN THE HOPPER. THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY NEGATIVE PROCESS VARIANT.

>> IF AND WHEN WE STARTED UP AGAIN, WE WILL HAVE A LOT FASTER RAMP-UP.

WE WILL HAVE ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS. HALF OF THEM WILL BE PROCESSED

ALREADY, RIGHT? >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL YOU'RE FINISHED TO START BACKUP.

RIGHT? >> WE WOULD HAVE TO. COULD YOU DO AN E-MAIL THAT IS VERY CLEAR AND SAYS, YOU ARE ON A WAITING LIST, IT'S UNKNOWN WHETHER YOU WILL OR WILL NOT GET FUNDING. TRY TO REALLY CLEARLY -- I GET THAT.

EVERYONE WILL BE CALLING YOU -- >> THAT IS MORE RESOURCES THAT YOU ARE LEAVING.

>> HE WENT OUT TO LOOK FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO LOOK FOR THIS AND HE'S ONLY GOING TO FIND 50%. HE IS ACTUALLY OPERATING WITH LESS PERSONNEL THAN HE THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO NEED. I THINK THE RESPONSE HAS BEEN ABOUT WHERE WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE IN TERMS OF NUMBERS OF PEOPLE WHERE IS THE NATURAL FALL OFF? HOW MANY APPLICATIONS WILL WE GET? IS THERE ANOTHER THOUSAND OUT THERE, AND 5000? I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS A HANDLE ON THAT. THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY DRAWBACK TO CONTINUING TO TAKE APPLICATIONS. WE KNOW AT SOME POINT ARE NOT

GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO HANDLE EVERYBODY. >> DEPENDING ON HOW BIG THE ICEBERG IS. IF YOU HAVE ANY MONEY LEFT OVER -- THE PERSON WOULD RATHER SEE US PAYING PEOPLE'S RENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT THEM BUILDING GOLF COURSES OR WHATEVER ELSE

HIM TO DO WITH THE MONEY. >> I DON'T THINK THEY WILL LET US BUILD GOLF COURSES.

>> NOT TO STEAL TERESA'S THUNDER. YOU HAVE ANOTHER ITEM COMING UP AT NUMBER 16, WHICH DOES PLAY INTO THIS UM APPLICATION PROCESS.

IF IT PLEASES THE BOARD, YOU MAY WANT TO MOVE TO 16, HEAR THE CONVERSATION.

THAT MAY HAVE AN EFFECT ON YOUR DECISION ON OUR APPLICATION PROCESS ALSO.

>> DID WE UM, DID ME ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MR. BOLIN ABOUT STARTING AND STOPPING FIVE ARE

YOU OKAY WITH WHAT IT IS NOW? DO WE NEED TO MODIFY IT? >> I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT OPEN AND KEEP IT GOING. I THINK THAT IS A BETTER ALTERNATIVE.

RAWLINS IF YOU LOOK AHEAD, TROY IS GUIDING US ALONG HERE IN THE SENSE THAT FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION HAS OVER $500,000 THAT THEY WANT TO PUT INTO THE MARKETPLACE FOR PAYING HOUSING COSTS, MORTGAGE PAYMENTS, RENTAL PAYMENTS ON THAT SORT OF THING.

THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER WAY -- WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR RUNNING THE APPLICATIONS ON THAT.

>> I WILL DEFER TO TERESA TO COME UP AND EXPAND HOW THE PROGRAM WILL WORK.

>> LET'S HOLD A DECISION ON 15 IN ADVANCE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO, I'M SORRY 14, WE WILL MOVE ON TO

[16.  Coronavirus Relief Fund Subrecipient Agreement with the Florida Housing Finance Corporation]

[03:15:03]

OF MONEY. >> FLORIDA HOUSING, WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS A FUNDING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND FLORIDA HOUSING. THIS WILL PROVIDE CORONA RELIEF FUND TO THE COUNTY AND THE AMOUNT OF $572,000. I'M SORRY -- TO THE COUNTY.

THIS IS THE FIRST INCREMENT OF MONEY THAT THEY WILL SEND. IF WE SPEND ALL OF THIS THEN THEY WILL CONSIDER SENDING MORE. THE SECOND INCREMENTS, I AM GUESSING WOULD BE ABOUT $300,000. UM, THOSE FUNDS CAN BE USED TO UM PAY BACK RENTAL PAYMENTS, UTILITY PAYMENTS UM MORTGAGE PAYMENTS. WE WILL BE ABLE TO PIGGYBACK OFF

OF THAT THERE. >> TROY'S GROUP IS ADMINISTERING THE ON REVIEWING THE

APPLICATIONS OR? >> NO, I BELIEVE THE SHIP PROGRAM WILL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT TO MERCY SUPPORT SERVICES WILL BE INVOLVED IN THAT.

>> ISN'T SOME COORDINATION REQUIRED WITH A POT OF MONEY THAT TROY HAS ON THE POT OF

MONEY THAT YOU HAVE. >> WE ARE GOING TO COORDINATE THE EFFORTS, BUT THERE IS TWO SEPARATE SETS OF REQUIREMENTS. TERESA AND I MET TODAY, AND REALLY WENT OVER -- WE HAVE TO COORDINATE THE TWO PROGRAMS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT DOUBLING UP ON SOMEBODY.

KEEPING THEM ARMS LENGTH APART BECAUSE THEY ARE TWO DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT OPERATIONS AND THE WAY THAT THEY ARE FUNDED. IN THE WAY THAT THEY OPERATE. THERE ARE RULES UNDER THE CARES ACT, UNDER FLORIDA HOUSING ARE VASTLY DIFFERENT THAN THE RULES THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN.

THEY HAVE DIFFERENT TO FLEXIBILITY THAN WHAT WE HAVE. WE ARE GOING TO KEEP THE TWO PROGRAMS SEPARATE. THIS IS ANOTHER RENTAL PROGRAM THAT IS GOING TO BE ON THE MARKET THAT MAY FILL SOME OF THAT GAP THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

>> QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? >> I THINK THE DANGER IS, THE AVERAGE CITIZEN IS GOING TO GET CONFUSED IF THERE ARE TOO MANY PROGRAMS OUT THERE. NOT KNOWING WHETHER THEY ARE ELIGIBLE. IF THEY'VE ALREADY GOT ONE, OR WHETHER THEY SHOULD APPLY FOR THAT ONE. I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TRYING TO GET AS MUCH MONEY INTO THE MARKETPLACE TO HELP PEOPLE CREATE I ALSO THINK THERE IS A SOURCE OF CONFUSION.

THE COUNTY IS GIVING OUT THIS MONEY COME NOW THEY'RE GIVING OUT THIS MONEY.

THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE FINE PRINT. >> IF THEY ARE ELIGIBLE.

I'M SORRY. >> IF SOMEBODY APPLIES TO BOTH WILL YOU COORDINATE THAT?

>> YES. >> YOU WILL DECIDE WHAT IS THE BEST FOR THEM OR IF THEY CAN GET

FROM BOTH? >> THEY CAN GET FOR BOTH IF THEY QUALIFY FOR 5000-$6000 FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND THEY HAD ALREADY GOTTEN MONEY FROM THE COUNTY.

WE WOULD DEDUCT THAT. >> IT LIKE, TERESA, YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY, A

LITTLE EASIER WHAT WE ARE HELD TO UNDER THE CARES ACT. >> I THINK WE HAVE BEFORE YOU COME ALSO IS AN APPROVAL OF A BUDGET RESOLUTION. WHEN THIS MONEY COMES IN THAT IT

COMES INTO ITS OWN ACCOUNT. >> YEAH, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

SINCE IS NOT FREE MONEY, BUT IT'S NOT MONEY COMING OUT OF OUR PARTICULAR BUDGET.

>> I WILL MOVE APPROVAL WITH A WAIVER OF THE PURCHASING POLICY, AND THE BUDGET RESOLUTION ON

ITEM 16. >> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I.

OPPOSED? THANK YOU. >> LET'S MOVE BACK QUICKLY TO 15. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY -- 14. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT WAS

LEFT ON THE TABLE THERE. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS.

TROY CAN HELP US OUT PERHAPS. WHEN AN APPLICANT GOES ONLINE TO APPLY, TROY, IS THERE A WAY TO DESIGNATE BY CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON WEDNESDAY, ANY OTHER ELECTRONIC APPLICATIONS THAT ARE UM RECEIVED, AN AUTOMATIC E-MAIL NOTIFICATION GOES TO THE APPLICANT SAYING THAT THEY ARE PUT ON A WAITING LIST UM AND THEY WOULD BE ENTERING THEIR INFORMATION BUT WITH NO GUARANTEE OF A RECEIPT OF MONEY? I THINK THAT MAY TEAR THINGS UP AND HELP OUT HERE.

>> WE DEFINITELY CAN DO THAT. I MEAN, WE CAN LEAVE THE PROCESS OPEN.

MY ONLY CONCERN WAS THE EXPECTATION THAT WE ARE DOING SOMETHING WITH THAT APPLICATION OUT THERE. THAT WAS MY ONLY CONCERN. WITH LIMITED STAFF WE ARE ANSWERING THOSE E-MAILS AND PHONE CALLS THAT EVEN IF THEY GET AN E-MAIL THEY ARE STILL

[03:20:01]

GOING TO EXPECT US TO BE DOING SOMETHING. >> I AGREE, I DON'T THINK IT IS A PROBLEM TO HAVE THOSE NAMES ALREADY IN PROCESS. WE CAN EITHER MAKE A REFERRAL TO THE SHIP PROGRAM AT SOME POINT WHEN THEY DECIDE TO KICK THEIR THING OFF.

OR, ADD ADDITIONAL MONIES IF WE HAVE SOMETHING LEFT OVER, SOMETHING COMES IN AT A LESSER COST, WE CAN CERTAINLY FIND MORE PEOPLE TO GET THAT. ORIGINALLY WE DID TELL THEM THAT WE WERE GOING TO KEEP THE APPLICATION PROCESS OPEN UNTIL SEPTEMBER 4, RIGHT?

>> SEPTEMBER 8. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. I THINK BY CUTTING IT OFF, I THINK THAT MIGHT CAUSE CONCERN. ALSO, PEOPLE MIGHT GET A LITTLE IRRITATED WITH THOSE THAT WE SAID WE ARE GOING TO KEEP IT OPEN AND WE JUST SHUT IT DOWN. I THINK, YOU KNOW, I DEVOLVED.

>> WAS GOING TO SAY YOU ARE AGREEING ON SOMETHING. [LAUGHTER]

>> I AM OKAY WITH THAT. TRAN21 PHONE NUMBER SHOULD WE PUT ON THEIR?

>> I CAN TRANSFER THAT PHONE CALL TO WHOEVER YOU WANT ME TO. >> ARE GOING TO TAKE A PHONE

CALLS ABOUT THE PROCESS. I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE. >> THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO FLUSH OUT HOW BIG THE ICEBERG IS. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

IF WE HAVE TWO COMPETING, YOU WILL FIGURE OUT THE MONEY. WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY EXTRA MONEY.

IF AN APPLICATION COMES IN AND WE IDENTIFY SOMEBODY WHO LEGITIMATELY NEEDS THE MONEY, THEN IT IS INCUMBENT ON US TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

>> WE KNOW FOR THE INCUBATOR AND OTHERS WE CAN HAVE A QUICK REFERRAL.

WE WERE UNABLE TO GET THEM FUNDING, BUT THEY NEED HELP. >> I'M TRYING TO ADDRESS THE PERSONAL PROBLEM HERE OF OUR CITIZENS, YOU KNOW? WHEN WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS, I DIVIDED $200,000 INTO WHAT, $38 MILLION, LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY GETS ABOUT $200.

[LAUGHTER] >> WITH ALL OF THIS DISCUSSION DO YOU HAVE A CLEAR AVENUE?

>> WE WILL LEAVE IT OPEN, WE WOULD JUST TAKE APPLICATIONS AND WE WILL PROCESS THEM AS WE CAN.

>> UNTIL SEPTEMBER 4? >> UNTIL THEN WE WILL BE BACK TO THE BOARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION

AND WE WILL NO BETTER WHERE EVERYTHING SITS. >> THE MERCY NETWORK,

ESSENTIALLY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO HIRE SOMEBODY FOR $35,000? >> THEY APPLIED THE MERCY

NETWORK FOR NONPROFIT GRANT. >> CAN WE DO THAT OURSELVES? >> IF WE COULD FIND OF THE PERSONNEL, THAT WAS THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE, WE CAN'T FIND THE STAFFING.

WE'VE HAD JOBS OPEN, FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND WORK. IT'S -- WE CANNOT FIND PEOPLE TO COME IN AND WORK. I MEAN, WE HAD EIGHT POSITIONS OPEN AND WE FILLED FOUR OF THEM.

I HAVE THE FIFTH ONE FILLED STARTING TOMORROW. >> JEAN HAS HAD REGULAR MAINTENANCE, AND PEOPLE FOR CARES, AND WE HAVE HAD ZERO APPLICANTS FOR THE MAINTENANCE

TECH POSITIONS. >> $40,000 PER YEAR TO GIVE MONEY AWAY, HOW DOES THAT SOUND?

[LAUGHTER] >> ARE WE DONE ON THAT? GOOD.

MOVING ON TO ITEM 17. BUDGET AMENDMENT TO TRANSFER FUNDING FROM RESERVES FOR

CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT? >> WEIGHT, 16. OH, 15, RIGHT.

>> WE BACKED UP AND WE MOVE FORWARD. >> WE SKIPPED TO 15.

[15.  Extension to Second Renewal of Agreement #2015/2016-119 with J&D Maintenance and Services of North Florida, LLC]

>> OKAY. EXTENSION TO SECOND RENEWAL OF AGREEMENT #2015/2016-119 WITH J&D MAINTENANCE AND SERVICES OF NORTH FLORIDA, LLC.

>> THIS IS AN EXTENSION TO THE EXISTING AGREEMENT. WE RAN OUT OF TIME AND PREPARING A NEW BID. WE WERE GETTING READY TO PUT IT OUT FOR BID AND WE WANT TO DO A COMPLETE REWORK OF THE SPECIFICATIONS AND RAN OUT OF TIME TRADE WE NEED TO ACTUALLY EXTENDED FOR SIX MONTHS. THE BID ACTUALLY ENDS ON AUGUST 9.

WE SPENT ABOUT $200,000 PER YEAR MOWING GRASS. IT'S ABOUT 35% OF WHAT WE ACTUALLY MOWED. THE REST OF IT IS DONE WITH THE COUNTY FORCES.

BECAUSE I HAVE RUN SO LATE, I HAVE TO GET YOU TO WAIVE THE PURCHASING POLICY.

>> I WILL MOVE APPROVAL THAT WE WAIVE THE PURCHASING POLICY AND EXTEND THE CONTRACT WITH JND

MAINTENANCE. >> SECOND. >> DISCUSSION? NONE. TRY 31 -- -- ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I.

[03:25:02]

>> THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE TOPICS. [LAUGHTER]

WE ARE UP TO 35%? >> 35%, YES. >> HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE HAVE

LEFT CUTTING GRASS TO? >> PROBABLY 12. >> COULD WE DEPLOY ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE TO TROY TO GIVE MONEY AWAY. [LAUGHTER]

INCREASING THE CONTRACT BY 10% TO CUT WHAT HE WAS CUTTING? >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE OUT OF

OUR LANE IF WE DID THAT. [LAUGHTER] >> IT IS A BUSINESS, RIGHT?

>> IT IS A BUSINESS. I'M GOING TO PAY THIS PERSON. SHE PAY JD LANDSCAPING TO ALL THE GRASS, IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE OUT OF MY MAINTENANCE FUND. THIS COMES OUT OF THE SAME A $55,000 THAT I HAVE OUT OF THE TRANSPORTATION TRUST. I'M GOING TO PAY THEM MORE.

>> WE CAN PAY THE GUY OUT OF THESE OTHER FUNDS WE ARE GIVING AWAY SOMEPLACE, RIGHT?

>> WE ARE GIVING MERCY NETWORK $35,000 TO HIRE SOMEBODY. >> THAT IS THROUGH THE CARES

ACT. >> BUT, MERCY NETWORK IS A NONPROFIT 5013 C.

>> I AM A NONPROFIT. [LAUGHTER] I AM DEFEATED.

YES, BUT. [LAUGHTER] >> ARE YOU DONE?

>> YES. >> ALL RIGHT. [LAUGHTER] I HAD EMOTIONALITY SECOND. AND THEN WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION. AND NOW WE ARE VOTING.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I. OPPOSE? SO DONE.

[17.  Budget Amendment to Transfer Funding from Reserves for Capital Improvement for Project Administrator - Bond Construction Payroll]

>> HERE IS THE AMENDMENT. HE MET THE GENTLEMEN WE HIRED TO DO THE BOND CONSTRUCTION.

HIS SALARY IS QUALIFIED AS A PART OF THE BOND FUNDING. I NEED TO ESTABLISH THE PAYROLL ACCOUNTS FOR HIM AND THAT IS $22,697 TO LAST THROUGH AND THEN HE WILL BE ADOPTING A BUDGET AND HIS PAYROLL WOULD BE PART OF CONSTRUCTION BOND FUNDED AT THAT POINT.

>> OKAY. >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> MOTION?

>> I MOVE THAT WE MAKE THE BUDGET TRANSFER. >> SECOND.

>> FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I. OPPOSE? THANK YOU. DOWN TO COUNTY MANAGER/CLERK OF THE BOARD.

[18.  Approval of the FY 20/21 Maximum Millage rates and setting the date, time and location for the First Public Hearing for the adoption of the FY 2020/2021 Clay County Tentative Budget]

ITEM 18. >> YES, SIR. OKAY.

FOR TODAY, YOU RECEIVED SOME DOCUMENTS, MOST IMPORTANTLY, I WOULD LIKE IF TROY CAN BRING UP A COUPLE OF SLIDES FOR ME? ONE IS THIS SLIDE HERE, WOULD BE FIRST TROY.

THIS IS OUR LATEST REVENUES. NOT THAT ONE, THE NEXT ONE. THEN I WILL GET TO THAT ONE.

WHILE HE IS BRINGING THAT UP RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU YOU HAVE A PACKET OF RECOMMENDED BUDGET.

I ASKED OLGA TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK FROM THE BOARDS DESIRE TO MAINTAIN, WHETHER IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO BALANCE A BUDGET OR NOT. THAT IS THE PACKET THAT YOU HAVE HERE. IN THE PACKETS I CAN POINT OUT A FEW ITEMS. WITH THE PACKET ALSO CAME THE RESOLUTION WITH REGARDS TO THE ATTACHMENT A AS STANDARD FOR YOU. WHAT HAS BEEN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT DURING THESE TIMES WAS TO ANTICIPATE OUR REVENUE. NOT ONLY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE REVENUE FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, WHICH WE ARE ALREADY DOWN CLOSE TO $750,000, ALREADY DOWN.

AND WE ARE JUST GETTING THOSE LATEST NUMBER AS DEBBIE SEND THOSE TO ME TOWARDS THE END OF THE MONTH. WE MAY SEE A LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL ON THESE REVENUE STREAMS. BUT, FOR THE TWO MONTHS BEHIND, IT IS STILL TO BE SEEN.

I WILL BRIEF THE BOARD WHEN I GET THOSE FINAL NUMBERS. I WILL ASK DEBBIE TO SEND A FINAL BRIEF ON THAT. BUT, AS YOU WOULD LOOK TOWARDS NEXT FISCAL YEAR, THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE ANTICIPATES, WHAT THOSE REVENUES WOULD BE. IS WHAD HERE.

AS YOU ALL CAN SEE, OUT OF THESE SEVEN FUNDS HERE, TAX REVENUES I SHOULD SAY, THEY ARE LISTED.

YOU HAVE IN THE FIRST COLUMN WHICH IS FY 19-20 ON WHAT IS ANTICIPATED FOR OUR NEXT FISCAL YEAR. THIS IS DECIDED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA'S DEPARTMENT OF

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IT IS THE DISCRETIONARY SALES SURTAX WHICH WE USE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS MISSING FROM THIS LIST. I'VE ALWAYS SAID THIS, FROM THE BEGINNING.

I KIND OF LUCKED OUT ON THIS A LITTLE BIT PERHAPS, MAYBE NOT SO MUCH AS IT IS TURNING OUT TO COME TO FRUITION. IT BASICALLY WILL BE A NET ZERO GAIN AND REVENUE YEAR-OVER-YEAR.

SO, AS WE MOVED FORWARD ON THIS TO GET TO 8.101. AGAIN, THE TAXING AUTHORITIES ARE LISTED. THIS WOULD BE A PAGE OUT OF OUR BUDGET BOOK THAT YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH. AND THE AD REVENUE FOR, FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR WAS 89,555,000, $423. WITH RATES TO MAINTAIN THAT, THE DIFFERENCE IN REVENUE, THAT YOU CAN SEE YEAR-OVER-YEAR. WOULD BE NOW $96,129,790. THIS GOES HAND-IN-HAND WITH WHAT THE HONORABLE ROGER SUDS IT US EARLIER ON HOW THE VALUE WENT UP ON 7.25% INCREASE AS HE SAID THE LARGEST INCREASE THAT HE HAS SEEN ON A 12.2 BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF PARCELS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, OLGA MANAGED TO BALANCE IT.

THE UNDERLYING PORTION SHOWS US, BASICALLY, WE HAD TO CUT FROM THE BCC BUDGET, I MENTIONED TO YOU ALL $3.2 MILLION. I HAD TO CUT OUT THE THE ERP OF TUBE $9.

I ALSO HAD TO REMOVE SOME POSITIONS AND CUT IN SOME OTHER AREAS.

FOR THE SHERIFF'S, AGAIN I HAVE TWO WARN THEIRS, THERE IS A NUMBER DOWN HERE FOR THE SHERIFF , BUT IF I GET ANOTHER REVENUE DECREASE HERE. IF YOU GO TO FUND 102.

I NEED TO POINT SOMETHING OUT TO THE BOARD. HE REMEMBER, I TALKED ABOUT BOTH CASH AND CARRY FORWARD AND CONTINGENCIES. IF YOU GO TO PAGE, I'M SORRY, THE PAGES ARE NOT NUMBERED, AT THE TOP IT IS FINAL FOR FORFEITURE 102.

WHAT I HAVE TO POINT OUT, IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE BOTTOM HERE WHERE IT SAYS RESERVES CONTINGENCY, AND CASH IN THE BLUE CALL IN THE REQUESTED FY 20-21. THERE IS NO CONTINGENCY AND THERE IS NO CASH CARRYFORWARD. NOW, THE NUMBER FOR THE EXPENDITURES IS AS LISTED.

SHE MANAGED TO BALANCE 102 AND 140 OH ONE ZERO TWO IS UNHEALTHY.

102 IS UNHEALTHY. IF YOU GO TO 140, WHICH IS QUITE A WAYS BACK, GO BACK TO THE MIDDLE PART OF YOUR PACKETS, IF NOT MORE. AGAIN, YOU ARE UNDER LAW ENFORCEMENT. YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE SAME COLUMN.

OLGA WAS ABLE TO PUT DOWN HERE, A LITTLE BIT MORE, ABOUT 500,000 MORE THAN THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR WITH REGARDS TO CONTINGENCY AND CASH. SO, IF I WAS TOO GREAT A 140, I WOULD SAY IT IS HEALTHY, IS DOING OKAY. WE ARE ABLE, AGAIN, TO BALANCE THIS BASED UPON 8.101. WE HAVE A MEETING SET UP WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TOMORROW TO DISCUSS THESE CUTS AND DISCUSS THE SPECIFIC CUTS TOWARDS THE BUDGET AS WE BRIEF TO THE BOARD, TWO WEEKS AGO. THERE IS A DIRE NEED TO EITHER REALLOCATE OR READJUST FUNDS

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TOMORROW THEY WILL BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THIS ANALYSIS, AND TAKING A LOOK AT THE POSSIBLE REALLOCATION. BUT, BACK TO THE NUMBERS UM AGAIN, TO REALLY TRY TO KEEP IT SIMPLE. THE DIFFERENCE YEAR-OVER-YEAR, IS $6.5 MILLION.

I TOOK OUT UM A LOT OUT OF OUR OWN BUDGET TO GET IT. IT IS FLAT.

OUR BCC BUDGET IS FLAT. THERE IS NO INCREASE, VERY LITTLE INCREASE, I SHOULD SAY OVERALL. THE 4 MILLION NEGATIVE ON THE TAX REVENUES FROM WHAT I JUST BRIEFED YOU ON SLIDE NUMBER ONE. YOU CAN TAKE THAT OFF. I TOOK 500,000 IN RESERVES BECAUSE WE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE 95% OF THE 6.5 THE OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL SCUM OF THE BUDGET REQUESTS ARE BAD IN HERE. WE CAN SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

FOR INSTANCE, SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS, CIRCUIT COURT, AND OTHERS THAT HAVE BRIEFED YOU ON YOUR BUDGETS ARE TAKEN CARE OF WITHIN THIS. I AM STANDING BY WITH ANY

QUESTIONS. >> THIS ONE, AND TWO MONTHS FROM NOW UNTIL WE HAVE THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING. I ASKED OLGA TO DO THESE SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHETHER 8.101 WAS DOABLE. YOU DO, PER FLORIDA STATE STATUTE, WERE YOU GOING TO COMMENT ON THAT? OKAY. OKAY.

SO, UM, PER FLORIDA STATE STATUTE, WHICH IS 200.0654 METHOD OF FILING.

HE SAYS WITHIN 35 DAYS OF CERTIFICATION OF VALUE PURSUANT TO SUBSECTION ONE, EACH TAXING AUTHORITY SHALL ADVISE THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF ITS PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE.

I BRING THAT TO THE BOARD TO UNDERSTAND, WE DON'T HAVE A REVENUE STREAM COMING IN.

WE ANTICIPATE IT ARRIVING ON FRIDAY IF THE DESIRE OF THE BOARD WOULD BE TO DELAY THIS.

BY THAT TIME WE CAN HOLD A SPECIAL MEETING ON MONDAY. IT WOULD LET ELECTRONICALLY BY TEAMS. YOU CAN DELAY SETTING THE MAX MILLAGE BY MONDAY.

>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS. IF IT COMES IN AND WE HAVE TO CUT THE BUDGET MORE, DO YOU

ALREADY HAVE A PLAN AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO CUT CUT? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> WE COULD GO WITH 8.101 REGARDLESS OF WHAT COMES ON ON FRIDAY?

>> THAT IS WHAT I THOUGHT. >> THAT IS THE MAX. >> WE MAY HAVE A HURRICANE COME

MONDAY. WHO KNOWS? >> MY ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE

FUNDS 102 AND 140. [INAUDIBLE] >> WE CAN USE THAT TO DO THE GRANT I DOUBLE HIS MONEY ON THE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE REDUCTION GRANT FOR THE

FIVE NEW OFFICERS, I THINK IT WAS. >> I DIDN'T TELL OLGA, IF THERE IS A TRUE STUDY WE PROBABLY SHOULD DELAY. OLGA CANNOT EFFECTIVELY BALANCE

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UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF THE COUNTY BASICALLY. >> WE NEED TO MEET ON MONDAY?

>> YES, MA'AM. UNFORTUNATELY. I MEAN, AGAIN, WE HAVE THE MEETING TOMORROW. WE SHOULD KNOW WHERE WE STAND WITH THAT AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. AGAIN, THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD WAS TO SET 8.101 AS MAX.

I WANTED TO SEE IF THAT WAS POSSIBLE COMING TO THIS, YOU KNOW, HEARING.

SHE WAS ABLE TO DO THAT. BUT, IT IS UNHEALTHY, TOO. >> WHAT TIME ON MONDAY?

>> I CAN'T BE HERE UNTIL 4:30. >> IF WE DID A TEAMS MEETING, WOULD IT MAKE IT EASIER ON

EVERYBODY. >> CAN YOU DO TEAMS? >> WHEN YOU SAY TEAMS?

>> THE SOFTWARE, MICROSOFT SOFTWARE? >> WHAT ABOUT 5:00 O'CLOCK ON

TEAMS COUNTY MANAGER? >> YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> I'M CONFUSED WHY WE CAN'T SET THE MAX MILLAGE AT 8.1. I KNOW WHERE I AM AT NO MATTER WHAT I GET FROM YOU GUYS ON

MONDAY. >> ALSO, WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, WITH THE PROJECTED STORM PATH, WE COULD BE UNDER A LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY ON MONDAY. I THINK WE ARE ALREADY UNDER

THAT FROM COVID-19. >> WE ARE. THIS WOULD BE FOR DIFFERENT

REASONS, TIME TWO. >> IF THE STUDY ALLOWS US TO REALLOCATE THE SPLIT BETWEEN MSBU AND AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT DIFFERENT APPROACH IT SET A 50/50, AND IF YOU RIGHT NOW APPROVE THE MAXIMUM MILLAGE RATE , AS PRESENTED, I WON'T BE ABLE TO ADJUST THAT ANYMORE, BASED ON THE NEW STUDY RECEIVED. THAT IS WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR MONDAY, IF WE RECEIVE THE STUDY AND WE CAN REALLOCATE. WE WILL BE ABLE TO REBALANCE THE MILLAGE RATE BETWEEN TWO FUNDS AND HOPEFULLY BRING IT INTO A MORE HEALTHY POSITION THEN IT IS RIGHT NOW.

>> WE ARE NOT VOTING ON THE FUNDS, ARE WE? WE ARE JUST VOTING ON THE MAX

MILLAGE. >> CORRECT. THE MILLAGE RATE, HOW YOU APPROVE IT TONIGHT, YOU CANNOT GO UP, YOU CAN ONLY GO BELOW. ALL FOZ ALT MAC.

>> ONCE WE SET THIS THIS IS IT. >> ALRIGHT, LET'S SHOOT FOR A TEAMS MEETING ON MONDAY TO

RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH EVERYONE CONCERNED? >> I DON'T FOR SEE THERE BEING A

PROBLEM. >> THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDERING US TO DO CMT EXPIRES

AUGUST 1. WHAT IS THE DATE ON MONDAY? >> THAT IS SATURDAY.

>> 5:00 O'CLOCK VIA TEAMS OR IN PERSON. >> WILL HAVE TO DO IT IN PERSON.

>> WE WILL GO WITH 5:00 O'CLOCK. WE WILL NOTICE A 5:00 O'CLOCK WE WILL GET THE PROPER NOTIFICATION OUT, AND LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. SEE'S WE WILL NOTIFY BOTH WAYS LIKE WE HAVE BEEN FOR THESE

MEETINGS IF YOU HAVE AN OPTION. >> VERY GOOD.

PERFECT. DOES THAT TAKE CARE OF ITEM NUMBER 18.

[19.  Update on Commission Auditor Recruitment Process]

>> THERE WAS A SUB NUMBER 19. ON 19, YOU ALL RECEIVED A BINDER WITH REGARDS TO THE COMMISSION AUDITOR, AND THE APPLICANTS THAT APPLIED IN THE CANDIDATES. JUST LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD'S KICKED MOVING FORWARD. THE HEADHUNTER RFP CLOSES ON THE THIRD OF AUGUST, AND THE BIDS WILL BE OPEN ON THE FOURTH. SO THAT PARALLEL OF WHAT WE WERE DOING, BUT TAKING A LOOK AT THE CANDIDATES THAT ARE HERE UM WE CAN GO THROUGH, IF THE BOARD DESIRES TO RANK THEM UM. IF YOU WANTED TO TALK TO ALL OF THEM OR INTERVIEW ALL OF THEM,

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THE BOARD. >> LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.

WE ARE GOING OUT FOR AN RFP. SO WE HAVEN'T HIRED ANYBODY TO YOU TO DO THE HEADHUNTING.

WE HAVE CANDIDATES FROM WHERE? >> I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF INTERVIEWING NINE PEOPLE.

[LAUGHTER] ANYTHING SHORT OF THAT I CAN GO ALONG WITH.

>> LET'S DO THREE, I CAN SIT THROUGH THREE INTERVIEWS. IF WE FIND SOMEBODY, THEN WE

DON'T GO AHEAD WITH THE HEADHUNTER. >> CORRECT.

>> THAT WAS MY SUGGESTION IN THE BEGINNING. >> WHAT ABOUT MONDAY, CAN WE

BRING BACK OUR TOP THREE FOR MONDAY? >> THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

>> CAN YOU AND YOUR STAFF RANK THEM? >> I HAVE KNOWN FOUR.

>> WHOEVER. YOU JUST GET INPUT FROM THE BOARD.

WE COME TO THE MEETING WE WILL RANK THEM 1-4. I WILL HAVE JENNIFER TALLY UP

AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE. >> THAT WORKS.

>> WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THAT I BELIEVE. >> ALL RIGHT.

WHEN DO YOU NEED THOSE NAMES, HOWARD? >> UM, IF WE COULD HAVE THEM BY FRIDAY, THAT WOULD BE NICE. THAT WILL HELP JENNIFER GET IT TOGETHER.

>> OKAY, BY FRIDAY. FORWARD YOUR TOP FOUR TO HOWARD. >> THEN WE CAN DISCUSS UM THE

TALLIES ON MONDAY'S MEETING, ON THE PUBLIC MEETING. >> OKAY.

SO, ANYTHING ELSE, HOWARD? >> THE ONLY OTHER I HAD WAS REAL EASY, WE HEARD FROM ADS UM I HAD MILTON DO A QUICK SHEET UM SO THE BOARD UNDERSTOOD AND HAD THE NUMBERS.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WEREN'T ANY QUESTIONS ON IT.

JUST, YOU KNOW, REALLY FOR THE PUBLIC UM HOW THE AMOUNTS ARE BROKEN OUT.

>> THE SIMPLIFIED VERSION IS IN THE CONTRACT. THEY CAN CHARGE US MORE AS A COUNTY FOR THE ADDITIONAL GARBAGE THAT THEY PICKED UP. THEY ARE NOT DOING SO AS A

TRADE-OFF, BECAUSE THE NOT PICKING UP RECYCLING. >> YES, SIR.

I DON'T THINK THEY EVER HAD THE INTENT TO CHARGE US FOR THE EXTRA SIX TALKS PER WEEK IN THE 5300 METRIC TONS MORE OF WASTE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN MILTON DID IT TO SIMPLIFY IT, IT'S REALLY, WHEN YOU BREAK OUT THE $4.35 PER WEEK THAT EACH HOUSEHOLD GETS, THREE TRUCKS TO VISIT THEIR HOME TO PICK UP UM EITHER GARBAGE, YARD WASTE RECYCLING.

FORTY-TWO CENTS OF THAT IS THE RECYCLING. WHEN THEY LOOKED AT THAT AND THEY MULTIPLIED IT OUT, IT'S APPROXIMATELY $50,000 IS WHAT YOU COULD REIMBURSE TOTALLY FOR THE HOUSEHOLDS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF TRUCKS THAT WERE ADDED, IT IS

$200,000 THEY COULD HAVE CHARGED US DURING THIS. >> WE CAME OUT ON TOP OF THAT?

>> WHO WE DID. IF YOU EMEMBER FROM THE LAST BOARD, THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO GET TO WAS A NUMBER TO MAKE SURE WE WERE BREAKING OUT IN THE POSITIVE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? >> IF THERE IS A DELAY PAST MONDAY, I WOULD DEFINITELY LET YOU ALL KNOW. I ANTICIPATE THAT WE ARE WORKING WELL WITH THEM.

THEY KNOW THE SENSE OF URGENCY TO GET US BACK UP. >> ALL RIGHT, COUNTY ATTORNEY,

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR US? >> OKAY, JOHN HADN'T WANTED TO ASK, SO I GUESS I WILL ASK HIM HIS BEHALF. HE HAS RECEIVED UM A FEDERALLY FUNDED SUB AWARD AND GRANT AGREEMENT FROM F DEM, AND HE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ACCEPTING THE UM AGREEMENT.

IN ORDER TO DO SO, HE NEEDS AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY MANAGER TO EXECUTE IT.

IT IS A COST REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT. THERE IS NO SPECIFIC AMOUNT.

IT IS FOR CERTAIN EMERGENCY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT IT, BUT IT IS FOR CERTAIN EMERGENCY FUNDING THAT HE MAY NEED. IF HE DOES THE EXPENDITURES, THEN THEY REIMBURSE HIM. THIS IS NOT COVID-19. SO, HE WAS PASSIONATE ABOUT

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IT IS REIMBURSEMENT BASIS. WHAT HE IS ASKING FOR IS FOR THE BOARD TO AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN

TO EXECUTE A LETTER AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY MANAGER ASSIGNMENT. >> SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

>> WE CAN BE AWARE -- REIMBURSED FOR ANY EXPENSE. >> MOTION.

>> SECOND. >> FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I.

OPPOSED? THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE?

>> THAT IS ALL I HAD. >> WE ARE DOWN TO LETTERS OF ACTION UNLESS I HAVE JUMPED

[27.  Approval of Request for Letter of Support from Suicide Awareness Voices of Education (SAVE)]

CARE OF THAT AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND SAY THAT IS DONE? >> IF IT PLEASES THE BOARD, I

CAN SIGN THE LETTER OF SUPPORT. >> THERE IS A TYPO ON IT. >> GOT IT.

>> ALL RIGHT. GOOD. THANK YOU.

[28.  Discussion of Appointment of Commissioner Mike Cella to the Affordable Housing Advisory Committee (AHAC)]

AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE (AHAC) >> MOVED FOR APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I. OPPOSED?

HOW DID YOU GET THAT APPOINTMENT, BROTHER? >> I WAS THE ONLY ONE IN THE

BUILDING. [LAUGHTER] >> WHAT DOES THE AVOIDABLE -- --

AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY DO? >> SO ADVISE. >> WHO ARE YOU WORKING WITH?

>> I HAVE NO IDEA. WHEN THEY SHOW ME I WILL LET YOU KNOW.

>> REPORT BACK TO US. >> ALL RIGHT, ITEM 29, ACCEPTANCE OF RESIGNATION FROM

[29.  Acceptance of Resignation from Peter Davis, Fleming Island Advisory Committee]

BUT HE'S ALSO REQUESTED AN APPOINTMENT FOR THE CLAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION.

DIDN'T WE MOVE ON BOTH OF THESE? >> HE HAD TO RESIGN FROM THE ISLAND.

>> WE NEED TO ACCEPT HIS RESIGNATION. >> MOVED FOR APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I. >> ITEM 30.

[30.  Discussion of Appointment to the Clay County Board of Adjustments - Brian Kraut]

>> CAN I MAKE THE MOTION IMMEDIATELY THAT WE PUT BRIAN ON THE CLAY COUNTY BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. BRIAN IS WILLING, AND INTERETED IN HELPING THE COUNTY OUT AND SERVING THE COUNTY. HE JUST HADN'T WORKED OUT UNTIL THIS POINT IN TIME.

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT HIS CANDIDACY. I KNOW HE WILL DO A GREAT JOB.

>> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I. >> THANK YOU FOR HANGING IN WITH

US. >> ANY LETTERS OF DOCUMENTATION. NONE.

OKAY. DOWN TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

>> I AM LISTENING TO WHAT YOUR STAFF IS SAYING, AND SOME OF YOUR STAFF ISN'T LISTENING AT ALL. THAT IS APPARENT TONIGHT. THANK YOU, TROY, FOR LISTENING AND NOT DOING THE BABY TALK TODAY WITH PUSHING THE PIT BULLS ON FAMILIES AND THEIR NEIGHBORS.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU CHANGING THE TONE ON TRYING TO PUSH THOSE OUT.

UM, YOUR ONE OPPONENT, MS. HUTCHINS,. >> LET STILL GOING INTO THAT.

DID YOU HEAR WHAT I SAID? DON'T GO INTO ANYTHING RELATED TO POLITICS.

>> ALL RIGHT. OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS SHOULD NOT BE A 0%.

WE SHOULD NOT HAVE COMMISSIONERS FIGHTING THEM. >> IT SOUNDED LIKE TO ME THAT YOU WERE TELLING THE PERSON ON THE PHONE, HE SOUNDED LIKE THEY COULD NOT SPEAK AGAIN FOR THE REST OF THE NIGHT. IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT, STANDING OUT HERE IT SOUNDED

LIKE HE WAS DONE. >> I THOUGHT WAS DONE. GO AHEAD, SIR.

>> ALSO WANTED TO TALK ON 218. THAT ROAD GOES WEST AND EAST. IF THERE IS A FAMILY DOLLAR ON THE WEST SIDE OF 218, IT WOULD BE IN THE MIDDLE OF 218. SO, LET'S GET, I MEAN, I HAVE SAID ENOUGH ABOUT THE STAFFING IN THE PAST. I APPRECIATE GAIT.

I WOULD RECOMMEND WATCHING THE SHARPTON VIDEO. WHERE THEY HAD THEIR CONFRONTATION. WE STILL GOT THE RAP CONTEST GOING ON.

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YOU GUYS ARE ELECTING THESE FOLKS TO GO THERE AND SAY THESE THINGS AND HE PUT IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA PRETTY DON'T TALK ABOUT IT AT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING A MOSHE PULLER. I THINK THAT IS A SHAME. I DID HEAR THAT YOU TWO CONSENTING ADULTS, WE PASS MARIJUANA. WE LOOK AT PROSTITUTION FOR ADULTS, AND FULLY IN SUPPORT OF THAT. IF WE LIVE IN AMERICA, AND TWO CONSENTING TO GET TOGETHER, THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT.

I LISTENED ABOUT AS GOOD AS THE CHAIR DID. HE SAID I COULD NOT WEAR MY FACEMASK, BUT I CAME BACK IN HERE, OF COURSE I SHOULD BE ABLE TO WEAR THIS FACEMASK.

I SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN KICKED OUT OF THE LAST BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION MEETINGS.

>> THAT IS NOT THE REASON YOU WERE KICKED OUT. GO AHEAD.

>> WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT. PART OF IT WAS OVER HERE, AND ALL OF THIS MESS THAT IS GOING ON RIGHT HERE, TOO. JUST BECAUSE I ASKED FOR THE MINUTES TO BE DONE RIGHT. IN A VERY RESPECTFUL WAY. AND THAT I WAS TO DOUBT BY MY OWN DISTRICT. WE DO STILL SELL ADULT TOYS IN CLAY COUNTY.

WE DON'T NEED TO GET A LICENSE FOR IT. I DO HAVE THE APPLICATION HERE THAT WAS REFUSED TO BE ABLE TO BE DROPPED OFF. I THINK I NEED TO BE CHANGED.

I WOULD LIKE THE BOARD TO DO THAT. OKAY? YOU HAVE STUART OVER HERE WHERE NO MASS, SITTING ON TOP OF PEOPLE.

YOU SAY THAT WE CANNOT DROP OFF THE APPLICATIONS? WE HAVE TO DO THEM BY E-FILING, OR MAIL THEM IN? WHY DO WE HAVE TO DO THAT? WHY CAN'T WE DROP THESE APPLICATIONS OFF HERE? WHY ARE MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT I STARTED THIS AT 10:00 O'CLOCK YESTERDAY. I TRY TO VIOLATE, AND IT DID NOT GO THROUGH.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE I AM? I GOT A 0001 ON MY BUSINESS, SO I MUST HAVE BEEN THE FIRST ONE, I'M GUESSING. BUT, I MEAN, HERE WE ARE, WE ARE GOING ON TWO DAYS AND I DON'T

KNOW WHERE MY THOUSAND DOLLARS IS. >> IT IS TIME, ISN'T IT?

>> YOU TIME IS UP. >> PRAISE THE LORD. >> AM I GOING TO BE ABLE TO TURN

THESE APPLICATIONS AND NOW? >> NO. >> WHY CAN'T I TURN THESE

APPLICATIONS AND IN? >> I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.

>> THEY ARE THE CARES ACT. THE THOUSAND DOLLARS ON THE $2000.

>> TURNED THEM INTO THE APPROPRIATE PERSON. I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS.

YOUR TIME IS UP. GO SIT DOWN. >> THAT IS RIDICULOUS.

>> WE ARE DOWN TO COMMISSIONERS FINAL COMMENTS. >> I'M SORRY, ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? I DON'T WANT TO CUT ANYBODY OFF. HEARING NONE.

[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]

>> I JUST WANT TO THANK STAFF AGAIN. I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS BETWEEN THE BUDGET. IT APPRECIATE THE WORK WITH THE NONPROFITS. I KNOW WE ARE GIVING MORE WITH HAVING APPLICATIONS COME IN.

HOPEFULLY YOU CAN FIND SOME ADDITIONAL WORKERS WITH A 10% UNEMPLOYMENT.

I WOULD TRY TO DO A POST UP AT THE WORKOUT. >> I AGREE WITH THAT.

EVERYBODY PRAY WE DON'T HAVE ANY HURRICANES THIS YEAR. >> WELL SAID.

>> I HAVE TO ECHO THAT. THE STAFF, OLGA, THE BUDGET. YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB GETTING THAT BUDGET WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE. A LOT HAS BEEN SAID, AND WRITTEN BOTH ON FACEBOOK AND SOCIAL MEDIA, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T LISTEN TO WHAT PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING ABOUT, OR WE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY.

THAT CAN BE ANY FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. WE ARE TAUGHT -- TRYING TO HOLD A LINE ON TAXES AS BEST WE CAN. HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE SOME NUMBERS THAT WILL ALLOW US TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY FROM THE STATE. I KNOW --

>> I THOUGHT FACEBOOK WAS ALL POSITIVE? >> AND YOU CAN BELIEVE IT ALL, TOO. HOWARD, HE ALONG WITH THE STAFF, AND WE THANK YOU FOR THAT.

APPRECIATE IT. >> STAFF IS DONE A GREAT JOB. TROY, KUDOS.

COUNTY MANAGER, I APOLOGIZE FOR GETTING SHORT. I KNOW YOU ARE UP AGAINST A TIME SLAB ON THIS STUFF. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE A DAY TO READ IT, AT LEAST.

[04:00:05]

>> NOW YOU HAVE THE WHOLE WEEKEND. [LAUGHTER]

>> I EXPECTED I HAD TO VOTE ON THAT TONIGHT. THAT WAS THE DEAL.

AND, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT IF THAT IS WHAT IT HAS TO BE.

ENOUGH SAID. >> ALL RIGHT. >> I HAVE NOTHING OTHER THAN I RECEIVED TWO PHONE CALLS THIS AFTERNOON. SAYING WHAT A WONDERFUL, AND GREAT JOB OUR COUNTY MANAGER DID AT THE ROTARY TODAY WITH A SPEECH HE GAVE.

NO DOUBT HE PAID THOSE PEOPLE TO CALL ME. REGARDLESS PRAY.

[LAUGHTER] >> I WAS THERE. I ASKED THE ONLY REALLY TOUGH

QUESTION. [LAUGHTER] >> ANYTHING FROM STAFF? I LIKE TO GIVE THEM A LAST SHOT. ANYTHING WE MAY HAVE OMITTED THAT YOU ALL WANTED TO ADD? HEARING NOTHING. THIS MEETING IS NOW

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