NEW BUSINESS

[16. 5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Public Hearing for Budget Amendment to Reallocate Funding of CIP Projects for the CARES Act Projects]

MOVING ON TO ITEM 16. PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET AMENDMENT TO REALLOCATE FUNDING FOR THE CIP PROJECTS FOR THE CARES ACTION PROJECTS. WE DISCUSSED THIS AT THE LAST FLEETING AND THIS WILL BE PART OF A PUBLIC HEARING ALSO.

OLGA? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, OLGA ABLE.

PROJECT MANAGER. I BRING HERE TO YOU TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ALMOST BY THE ORDINANCE. AS YOU KNOW WE HAD THE CARES ACT FUNDING RECEIVED FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA THROUGH THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. IN ORDER FOR US TO EXERCISE THE MOST AMOUNT AND BENEFIT THE COUNTY THE MOST WE HAVE TO FIND

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THE FUNDING TO UP FRONT THE PROJECT BEFORE WE GET THE REIMBURSEMENT OF ADDITIONAL 75 PERCENT.

THAT ALLOWED US TO LOOK AT OUR CIP FUND AND LOOK AT OUR PROJECTS TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO UTILIZE THE FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO THE MOST ABILITY.

AND AFTER THE REVIEW OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TOGETHER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF, WE ARE BRINGING HERE FOR PUBLIC HEARING REALLOCATION OF THE SEVERAL PROJECTS FROM THE SECTION 1 OF EXHIBIT A WHICH IS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BACK TO THE SECTION 2 OF EXHIBIT A AS PART OF RESOLUTION AND NON-CIE ELEMENT. WE ALSO BRING TO YOU THE REALLOCATION OF PROJECTS BETWEEN THE YEARS AND THE RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THOSE REALLOCATIONS. IF WE CAN GET THE SLIDE.

YOU SHOULD RECEIVE THE SHORT VERSION OF THE REALLOCATIONS AND IT'S CURRENTLY ON THE SCREEN AS WELL.

YOU HAD THIS AS A BECOME-UP FOR YOUR PACKAGE.

AND THEN PINK AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S THE CHANGES FROM THE CURRENTLY APPROVED CIP PLAN. THE LIGHT YELLOW HIGHLIGHTS THREE PROJECTS THAT'S GOING TO BE MOVED OUT OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SECTION INTO THE REGULAR NON-CIE SECTION OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. AND THE REALLOCATION OF THE PROJECTS BETWEEN THE YEARS TO ALLOW FOR $15 MILLION TO BE ALLOCATED FOR CARES ACT SPENDING.

AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? HOWARD, YOU RECEIVED NO INFORMATION SINCE OUR LAST MEETING THAT GIVES YOU ANY CONCERN ABOUT THE STATE ACTUALLY COMING BACK AND REIMBURSING US FOR THESE EXPENDITURES HAVE YOU?

>> WE'VE BEEN IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH THE STATE AND I KNOW TROY AND JOHN HAVE ENGAGED WITH THEM NUMEROUS TIMES ON THIS. AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE RISK, THE RISK IS EVEN LESS THAN LAST TIME AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE PROJECTS. AGAIN, IT IS CRITICAL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CIP, THE GOAL THAT OLGA WAS TASKED WITH HERE WAS TO ENSURE THAT WE COULD FREE UP $15 MILLION OF MONEY THAT WOULD HAVE THOSE MONEYS HERE UP FRONT SO THAT WE COULD HAVE THAT AS LIKE SEED MONEY FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REST OF THE CARES ACT EXPENDITURE. WE WILL LIKELY BRIEF BEFORE PUT THESE EXPENDITURES IN AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN TO GET THAT QUICK REIMBURSEMENT FROM THEM. THIS WAS THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO IF WE DID NOT GET REIMBURSED BACK FROM THE STATE.

AND I DEFER TO TROY IF HE HAD ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO ADD TO

THAT [INAUDIBLE]. >> NO THANKS.

JOHN AND I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE STATE AFTER THE LAST SET OF GUIDANCE THAT CAME OUT AND WE ASKED IS THERE ANYTHING THAT'S CHANGED IN THE LATEST GUIDANCE FROM THE IRS THAT CONCERNED THEM AND THEY GAVE US THE SAME ANSWER, NO NOTHING'S CHANGED. I'LL DEFER TO JOHN IF HE'S GOT

ANYTHING ELSE. >> AS EVERYBODY STATED-- AS TROY AND MR. WANNAMAKER STATED WE'VE BEEN IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH THEM AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE AND WE'VE PRODUCED OUR SPENDING PLAN ADD TIMELINE TO THEM.

WE'VE ALSO REACHED OUT AND MADE THE REQUEST LAST WEEK FOR ADDITIONAL $3 MILLION FROM THAT 75 PERCENT BASED OFF OUR SPENDING PLAN TO GET THAT INTO THE CIRCULATION AND WE SHOULD HAVE THAT APPROVAL IN THE NEXT WEEK-AND-A-HALF.

BUT THEY'RE STILL ASSURING US THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A QUICK TURNAROUND ON THIS. BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT TO BE CLOSED

OUT BY 30 OF DECEMBER ALSO. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: WHILE THE BOARD IS THINKING ABOUT ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS WE'LL OPEN THIS UP TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. DOES ANYONE NEED TO COME UP TO SPEAK ON THIS OR WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON IT?

>> YOU DO HAVE ONE ON THE PHONE SIR.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: WE HAVE ONE? >> YES, SIR.

[LAUGHTER] >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: PUT HIM ON.

>> GO AHEAD, MR. OTTO. >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: JAMES OTTO.

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[INAUDIBLE]. YES I WANT TO SPEAK ON NUMBER 15. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON THAT. I BELIEVE WE'RE ON 16 NOW.

AS FAR AS THIS EMERGENCY MONEY, WE NEED A SECOND LOCATION.

THERE'S MR. WARD. I'M GLAD I SEE HIM THERE TODAY.

HE SAID IF WE HAVE A HURRICANE OR SOMETHING TO HAVE ALL OF OUR RESOURCES LIKE THAT. I UNDERSTAND YOU GOT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND STUFF. WELL YOU NEED A SECOND LOCATION FOR THAT EMERGENCY. I'M GLAD YOU ARE NOT BEING ABLE TO BUILD A BUILDING AT THE FAIRGROUNDS WHICH YOU WOULD REALLY LIKE TO DO WHICH IS THE WRONG THING TO DO.

BUT YOU NEED TO FIND THE BUILDING OUT IN MIDDLEBURG OR SOMEWHERE OUT THAT WAY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COUNTY.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ON THESE ISSUES IN REFERENCE TO THE CARES ACT. YOU KNOW, THE PAY IT BACK, IS THIS 100 PERCENT OR DO WE HAVE TO REPAY PART OF THIS MONEY ON NUMBER 16? LET ME SEE.

I THINK YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING?

CAN YOU HEAR ME, SIR? >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: I CAN HEAR YOU. GO AHEAD, MR. OTTO.

>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: ALL RIGHT. YES, SIR.

YES, SIR. SO I AM REALLY DISAPPOINTED WE WEREN'T ABLE TO SPEAK ON 15. BUT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT. IN REFERENCE TO THE CARES ACT WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL. WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND THIS RECKLESSLY JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SPEND IT BY DECEMBER.

THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING. I WANT A CLEAR DECISIVE ANSWER ON IS 100 PERCENT OF THIS OURS OR DO WE HAVE TO REPAY IT? IS 90 PART OF THIS A LOAN ON THIS MONEY THAT'S BEING GIVEN TO THE COUNTY? I'M NOT REALLY LOOKING FOR A QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS UNTIL AFTER MY THREE MINUTES.

SO WE REALLY NEED TO BE CAREFUL. WE'RE GETTING PUSHED INTO SPENDING THIS MONEY. I UNDERSTAND WHY SO THAT CERTAIN PEOPLE CAN'T GET THEIR HANDS IN IT.

IT NEEDS TO BE SPENT FOR THE PEOPLE.

AND IT NEEDS TO BE SPENT RIGHT. AND IF YOU CAN'T SPEND IT RIGHT YOU SHOULDN'T SPEND IT AT ALL. JUST LIKE THE $129 MILLION THAT'S NOW BEING DIVIDED INTO FIVE DISTRICTS.

YOU ARE TRYING TO SPEND IT IN TWO DISTRICTS AND NOT ALLOWING US TO SPEAK AT THE MEETINGS. YOU ARE PUSHING IT THROUGH.

THIS IS WAY OUT OF LINE. THIS BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IS WAY OUT OF LINE FOR PUSHING THESE HIGH DOLLAR EXPENSES THROUGH WITHOUT THE CITIZENS FULLY UNDERSTANDING

WHAT YOU ARE DOING. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: OKAY YOUR TIME IS UP AM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR INPUT. OKAY ANY OTHER-- ANYONE ELSE NEEDING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? WE'LL BRING IT BACK-- WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. WHAT'S THE BOARD'S PLEASURE?

>> COUNCILMEMBER: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CIE ARD ORDINANCE AND THE ARESOLUTION AMENDING THE NON-CEI BUDGET OF

THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. >> COUNCILMEMBER: SECOND.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: MOTION AND A SECOND.

FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE ALL IN FAVOR SAY

AYE. >> AYE.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: OPPOSED.

SO DONE. 4-.

[17. 5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Budget Resolutions to Address CARES Act Funding]

1. MOVING ON TO ITEM 17.

>> THIS IS CONCURRENT RESOLUTION WITH THE CURRENTLY APPROVED CIP AND CHANGES JUST TO ENSURE THAT THE MONEY CAN BE MOVED INTO THE CARES ACT FUND AND ALSO ADJUST THE INFRASTRUCTURE SURTAX REVENUES BASED ON THE NEW PROTECTIONS.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: THIS WOULD BE JUST A FOLLOW-UP ACTION TO THE ACTION WE JUST TOOK IN ITEM 16.

>> CORRECT. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET RESOLUTION TO ADDRESS THE CARES

ACT FUNDING. >> COUNCILMEMBER: SECOND.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED. SO, DONE.

OKAY. THAT'S TAKES CARE OF THE TIME CERTAIN. THANK YOU, OLGA.

WE'LL MOVE BACK TO ITEM 7. THE CONSTITUTIONAL BUDGETS.

WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF THE TAX COLLECTOR SO LET'S MOVE TO ELECTIONS SUPERVISOR. MR. CHRIS CHAMBLISS?

>> SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON ESTEEM MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

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FIRST I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE CURRENT AFFECTS INSTEAD OF AFFAIRS IN THE ELECTIONS OFFICE.

OUR WEEKLY WORKLOAD HAS INCREASED FOR OUR 14FTES.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE AVERAGING 1,500 NEW APPLICATIONS A WEEK.

ALSO 700-PLUS PARTY CHANGES. AND WHAT'S DIFFICULT WITH THE PARTY CHANGES RIGHT NOW IS WHEN YOU CHANGE YOUR PARTY BECAUSE THE VOTE BY MAIL BALLOTS HAVE GONE OUT WE THEN HAVE TO CONTACT YOU AND HAVE YOU REQUEST AN UPDATED BALLOT FOR THAT BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN MAILED OUT. AND WE'RE AVERAGING ABOUT 700-PLUS VOTE BY MAIL REQUESTS PER WEEK.

YESTERDAY WE RAN OUT-- WE SENT OUT OUR FIRST RUN OF 27,000 VOTE BY MAIL BALLOTS. THAT'S AN INCREASE OVER PAST ELECTIONS. WE CONTINUE TO TRAIN THE 350 ELECTION WORKERS THAT WILL BE NEEDED FOR THE PRIMARY.

IN THE LAST 14 DAYS, WE'VE LOST 37 ELECTION WORKERS DUE TO COVID-19. THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THAT IS INDIVIDUALS OF COURSE ARE SEEING THE NUMBERS RISE AND THEY'RE LISTING TO THE NEWS REPORTS AND THEY'RE JUST FINDING THAT IT'S JUST NOT SAFE FOR THEM. 55 PERCENT OF OUR ELECTION WORKERS ARE OVER 65. SO THEY ARE ONE OF THE CRITICAL INDIVIDUALS. ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE PROCESSED ABOUT 18,000 BALLOTS SO FAR IN OUR PRETESTING UP TO THE PRIMARY ELECTION. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE BUDGET DOCUMENTS PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED, I AM REQUESTING YOUR SUPPORT IN FUNDING OUR SUBMITTED BUDGET KNOWN AS OPTION 2 WHICH CONSISTS OF VARIOUS SCENARIOS WHICH COULD BE APPROVED FOR THE UPCOMING GENERAL ELECTION I.E. VOTE CENTERS.

GROWTH IN EARLY VOTING AND IN VOTE BY MAIL.

ADDITIONALLY, CLAY COUNTY WITH ALL OTHER FLORIDA COUNTIES ARE CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN THREE CURRENT LAWSUITS SEEKING RELIEF IN A NUMBER OF ELECTION-RELATED AREAS.

FIRST, PREPAID POSTAGE FOR ALL VOTE BY MAIL BALLOTS.

RETURN POSTAGE. BASED ON THE INCREASE IN VOTE BY MAIL REQUEST AND HISTORICAL RATE OF RETURN THIS COULD RESULT IN AN ESTIMATED COST OF GREATER THAN $50,000 ALONE.

BY THE WAY, THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE COST TO REPRODUCE THOSE MAILING ENVELOPES THAT ARE ALREADY PRODUCED WITH POSTAGE NEEDED. THE EXPANSION OF VOTE BY MAIL DROP BOXES IS ANOTHER REQUEST. WE'RE CURRENTLY ACTUALLY MEETING THE SUGGESTED REQUIREMENT. WE HAVE EARLY VOTING-- EXCUSE ME. VOTE BY MAILBOXES AT EVERY VOTING SITE AND WE HAVE A SECURED DROP BOX 24 HOURS AT OUR MAIN OFFICE. EXPANSION OF EARLY VOTING LOCATIONS, DAYS AND HOURS. IMPLEMENTATION OF ACCESSIBLE VOTE BY MAIL BALLOT SYSTEM. THIS WOULD REQUIRE POSSIBLY AN EMERGENCY ELECTION CODE CHANGE. BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND THAT VEHICLE TO GET THAT BALLOT BACK FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE AN ADA DISABILITY WITHOUT ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL BEING ABLE TO SEE THEIR BALLOT. QUITE DIFFICULT.

BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE REQUESTS IN THIS LAWSUIT.

OUTDOOR POP-UP VOTING SITES. LET ME TELL YOU THIS IS A HEAVY LOGISTICAL LIST. MY MAIN CONCERN IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL OPERATING TEMPERATURES AND THE HUMIDITY.

WHEN PAPER GETS HUMID IT SWELLS MAKING IT LESS MACHINEABLE.

AND ALSO QUITE FRANKLY THE EQUIPMENT WAS MANUFACTURED TO OPERATE IN POLLING LOCATIONS WITH AIR CONDITIONERS NOT SITTING OUT IN FLORIDA'S SUN. DRIVE-THRU OR CURBSIDE VOTING.

THIS WOULD ALSO REQUIRE AN ELECTIONS CODE CHANGE THAT WOULD BE FOR INDIVIDUALS TO BE ABLE TO SOMEHOW DRIVE THEIR VEHICLE THROUGH SOME DRIVE-THRU LINE AND CAST THEIR BALLOT FROM THEIR

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VEHICLE. IN OUR BUDGET YOU WILL NOTICE A TEN PERCENT CONTINGENCY LINE ITEM FOR A POTENTIAL RECOUNT.

ONE OF THE LESSONS LEARNED IN THE 2018 GENERAL ELECTION RECOUNT WAS THAT IT WAS A TREMENDOUS DRAIN ON OUR RESOURCES, BOTH FROM A BUDGETARY STANDPOINT AND PERSONNEL STANDPOINT. ADDITIONALLY AS WE CONTINUE TO PREPARE FOR DIFFERENT ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATION EVENT WITH COVID-19 COUPLED WITH THE CURRENT GROWTH THAT CLAY COUNTY IS EXPERIENCING, YOU WILL SEE A CAPITAL OUTLAY INCREASE FOR ADDITIONAL BALLOT ON DEMAND DEVICES, ELECTRIC POLL BOOKS, AND BAR CODE SCANNERS TO MEET THOSE NEEDS.

TO PROPERLY FRAME THIS REQUEST, IF THE MONEYS ALLOTTED FOR THE RECOUNT CONTINGENCY, THE PREPAID RETURNED POSTAGE, OR THE CAPITAL OUTLAY GO UNUSED, OUR BUDGET IS ACTUALLY NEARLY NINE PERCENT DECREASE OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR. ALL OF THESE ARE RELATED TO GROWTH. ALL OF THESE ARE RELATED TO COVID-19. AND IF YOU WOULD ALLOW, I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO STRESS.

VOTE CLOSING IS UPCOMING JULY 20TH.

THAT WILL BE THE LAST POSSIBLE TIME YOU CAN REGISTER TO VOTE IN THIS PRIMARY ELECTION OR CHANGE ANY OF YOUR INFORMATION SUCH AS PARTY STATUS. EARLY VOTING IS AUGUST 6TH THROUGH THE 15TH 8:00 A.M.-6:00 P.M.

NOW AT SEVEN LOCATIONS WE'VE ADDED ST. JOHNS RIVER COMMUNITY COLLEGE FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER THERE.

AND SO THAT WILL BE A GREAT ADDITION TO ADD TO OUR BANDWIDTH FOR EARLY VOTING. VOTING BY MAIL.

YOU CAN OF COURSE REQUEST THAT UNTIL TEN DAYS PRIOR.

BUT REMEMBER THAT IT HAS TO BE IN 7:00 P.M. ON ELECTION DAY ON THE 18TH. THE LAST THING, NOT WANTING TO SCARE ANYONE BUT I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE TRUTH.

RECENTLY BEFORE THIS EPIDEMIC OR PANDEMIC I WENT TO RIDE ONE OF THE RIDES AT WALT DISNEY WORLD. IT HAPPENED TO BE A HARRY POTTER RIDE. YOU KNOW IT TOOK ME TWO-AND-A-HALF HOURS TO WEAVE MY WAY THROUGH THE LINE TO GET THROUGH TO THE RIDE. AND I WAS HAPPY TO DO SO.

I WAS THERE WITH MY FAMILY AND I WAS GOING TO ENJOY SOMETHING.

FOLKS, THERE'S GOING TO BE LINES IN THIS ELECTION.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR LACK OF PREPAREDNESS.

CERTAINLY IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE LEVEL OF SUPPORT THAT THIS BOARD HAS GIVEN MY OFFICE.

WHAT IT HAS TO DO WITH IS HUMANS PROCRASTINATING.

AND IF YOU DON'T TAKE PART IN VOTING BY MAIL, IF YOU DON'T TAKE PART IN THE EXTENDED EARLY VOTING, THEN YOU ARE LEFT WITH A 12-HOUR PERIOD OF TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONLY THAT YOU GET VERIFIED AS A VOTER FOR YOUR ELIGIBILITY, BUT YOU CAST YOUR BALLOT AT YOUR POLLING LOCATION INSTEAD OF GOING TO ANY ONE OF SEVEN FOR A TWO-WEEK PERIOD. THERE'S GOING TO BE LINES.

WHEN YOU ARE STANDING IN LINE FOR 30 MINUTES, REMEMBER MY EXPERIENCE ON THE HARRY POTTER RIDE.

I WAS HAPPY TO DO SO. I WAS HAPPY TO VOTE.

I WAS HAPPY NOT TO HAVE ARMED SOLDIERS SURROUNDING ME WHILE I WAS DOING MY DUTY. AND SO, WITH THAT, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND I AM OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS EXCEPT FOR THE CHAIRMAN AT THIS TIME. [LAUGHTER]

>> COUNCILMEMBER: HOW WAS THE RIDE?

>> IT WAS WONDERFUL! I ENJOYED THE RIDE.

BUT ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, TWO HOURS, IT'S A LONG TIME.

IT WAS HOT. IT WAS THE SUMMER.

I WAS SWEATING. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? IT WAS THE PRICE I WAS WILLING TO PAY TO BE ABLE TO VOTE.

IT WAS THE PRICE I WAS WILLING TO PAY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A

WONDERFUL TIME. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: CHRIS, I'VE HEARD IT SAID ON A FEW OCCASIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, VOTING REALLY SHOULDN'T BE THAT EASY. YOU'VE HEARD THAT ALSO.

COMMENTS ON THAT SIR? >> MY OATH OF OFFICE SAYS THAT I WILL UPHOLD ALL LAWS NOT JUST THE ONES I LIKE.

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AND SO IT'S TRUE THAT SOMETIMES I THINK THAT MAYBE WE CHEAPEN THE EVENT BECAUSE WE MAKE IT QUITE HONESTLY EASY TO DO.

I MEAN, YOU CAN REGISTER TO VOTE ONLINE NOW.

YOU CAN REQUEST YOUR VOTE BY MAIL BALLOT ONLINE NOW.

THANKFULLY FLORIDA HAS A OAFS AND -- IDENTIFICATION AND SIGNATURE REQUIREMENT. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE INSECURITY OR ISSUE WITH VOTING BY MAIL BUT I ASSURE YOU THAT, NUMBER ONE, IT'S THE WAY I VOTE.

NUMBER 2, IT IS A PUBLIC MEETING.

AND I WOULDN'T INVITE TO YOU COME WATCH ME NOT COUNT YOUR

BALLOT. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I JUST WANT TO SAY I FEEL VERY SAFE WITH OUR ELECTIONS HERE IN CLAY COUNTY AND A BIG PART OF THAT, CHRIS, IS YOU.

YOU DO A GOOD JOB. >> WELL IT IS THE STAFF.

IT'S THE-- WHEN I SAY THE TEAM, IT IS THE 350 ELECTION WORKERS.

IT'S OUR 14 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES. AND QUITE FRANKLY IT'S YOUR SUPPORT. I'M NOT PANNERING BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE STATE PRESIDENT AS OUR ASSOCIATION DURING THE LAST PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, COUNTY AFTER COUNTY TALKS ABOUT THE DIFFICULTIES IN RECEIVING FUNDS FOR EQUIPMENT AND SERVICES AND YOU HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN THE RIGHT RESPONSE AND PROPERLY FUNDED THIS ACTIVITY. EXCEPT FOR MY HOT TUB.

[LAUGHTER] >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: NEXT YEAR, BROTHER. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT NEXT YEAR.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OF SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME

AND DILIGENCE. >> GOD BLESS YOU.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: YES, SIR. >> YOU ARE MUCH TOO YOUNG TO

NEED MY GLASSES. >> SPEAKER: GOOD EVENING.

MINE SHOULD BE FAIRLY SIMPLE AND QUICK.

JUST A QUICK REMINDER THAT THE CLERK OF COURTS, THE COURT FUNCTIONS AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE, LARGE PORTION OF THAT IS FUNDED BY THE TRIAL COURT OR AT LEAST THE TRIAL COURT RELATED DUTIES ARE FUNDED BY THE COURT COST FEES AND FINES WHICH ARE TRANSMITTED UP TO A STATE TRUST FUND AND DISPERSED BACK OUT THROUGH A BUDGETING PROCESS THROUGH A STATE ENTITY.

JUST A REMINDER ON THAT. SO WHAT I HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THE LOCAL RESPONSIBILITY BUDGET WHICH IS-- YOU WILL SEE IN 1920 WAS ROUGHLY $1.3 MILLION.

THAT CONSISTS OF THE CLAY COUNTY ARCHIVES FUNCTION THAT FALLS UNDERNEATH MY OFFICE WHICH IS A SERVICE TO THE COUNTY AND SCHOOL SYSTEM. IT ALSO INCLUDES CERTAIN COUNTY FUNDED COURT RELATED EXPENSES AS PRESCRIBED IN FLORIDA STATUTE 29.008. IT ALSO INCLUDES SOME EXPENSES FOR OUR BRANCH FACILITIES WHICH INCLUDE SECURITY UTILITIES AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF. IT ALSO INCLUDES AN INTERIM COMPTROLLER BUDGET IN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER FOR JULY-SEPTEMBER. THAT ALLOWS US TO BACKFILL JUST A FEW POSITIONS THAT ARE STAYING WITH THE COUNTY AS PART OF THE NEWLY DEVELOPED OMB THAT'S IN PROCESS.

SO THAT GIVES US TIME TO DO SOME HIRING AND TRAINING OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS FOR THE OCTOBER 1ST TRANSITION DATE.

SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 1.3 AND THE 1.2 ROUGHLY FOR 2021 ARE THOSE ADDITIONAL INTERIM DOLLARS FOR COMPTROLLER.

SO IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THAT IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET.

AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHY WHEN I GET INTO THE NEXT LEVEL BUDGET.

IT DOES INCLUDE A THREE PERCENT COLA.

WE PUT THAT IN EVERY YEAR AND JUST DEPENDS ON THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT OF HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.

IT ALSO INCLUDES THE FRS RATE INCREASE THAT WAS PASSED LAST YEAR. AND THE REASON WHY IT IS A LITTLE LOWER IS WE CONTINUALLY TRY TO REDUCE OUR OPERATING COSTS SO WE CAN FIND EFFICIENCIES WE REDUCE OPERATING COSTS. SO THAT LOCAL RESPONSIBILITY BUDGET. THE SECOND ONE IS NEW TO US.

THAT IS THE COMPTROLLER BUDGET. YOU WILL SEE IN 1920 THIS WAS THE COUNTY BUDGET OF ABOUT 1.7. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 1920-- ROUGHLY BETWEEN THE 1920 AND PROPOSED 20/21 IS WHEN IT

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WAS PART OF THE COUNTY BUDGET IT DID INCLUDE AUDIT FEES AS WELL AS AMBULANCE BILLING. SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS THAT WILL STAY OVER WITH THE COUNTY THAT WE WILL BE NOT BE BRINGING OVER IN THE BUDGET. IN PROPOSED $1.5 MILLION IT IS A BASICALLY A CONTINUATION BUDGE FRITH THE COUNTY TO THE COMPTROLLER FUNCTION WITH A FLAT ORGANIZATION.

WITH THAT I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: NO QUESTIONS? THANK YOU MA'AM. THAT WAS EASY.

THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO THE SHERIFF'S

BUDGET. >> SPEAKER: HOPEFULLY WHEN I GET DONE YOU SAY THAT WAS EASY, TOO. I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS ARTICULATED TO THE FOLKS OUT THERE WATCHING THE POSITION THAT YOU ARE IN THIS YEAR. IF YOU DID, I MISSED THAT PART.

I DON'T THINK THE CITIZENS UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A SHORTAGE IN SALES TAX REVENUE THAT WILL IMPACT-- HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE COUNTY. AND THAT REALIZED LOSS IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE MADE UP BY ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL.

AND SO I AM NOT IGNORANT OF THAT FACT WHEN I SUBMITTED THIS PROPOSAL AND I UNDERSTAND THE THANKLESS AND CATCH-22 POSITION THE COMMISSION IS IN TO TRY TO BALANCE THE BOOKS FOR THE COUNTY. SO, I'LL MOVE FORWARD.

THIS PIE CHART REFLECTS THE PRIORITIES OF THIS NEXT BUDGET WHICH IS TO INCREASE STAFF LEVELS, TO IMPLEMENT PHASE 2 OF THE STEP PLAN AND AVERAGE TECHNOLOGY AND TO A -- LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY AND ADDRESS THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE OF BCC OWNED FACILITIES. AND JUST TO SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY ON SOME OF THE INCREASED STAFFING LEVELS.

THE CURRENT STAFFING LEVELS BY RATIO OF 1,000 CITIZENS TO ONE DEPUTY IS 1.31. TH LAST TIME THAT I WAS UP HERE THAT WAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 1.47.

AS THE COMMUNITY GROWS AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE STAFFING LEVELS DO NOT, THE DISPARITY BETWEEN THOSE TWO NUMBERS WILL CONTINUE TO DECREASE OR THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUAL DEPUTIES PER 1,000 PEOPLE WILL DECREASE. AND THE STATE RATIO IS 1.71.

WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO CHASE THAT NUMBER.

AS THE LENSES WE LOOK THROUGH UNDERSTANDING TO REACH THAT NUMBER WE WOULD HAVE TO HIRE AN UNGODLY AMOUNT OF DEPUTIES AND I DON'T FORESEE THAT HAPPENING IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.

HOWEVER WE DO WANT TO MAINTAIN AT LEAST THE STATUS "OF 1.31 WHICH WILL ALLOW US AT LEAST SOMEWHAT KEEP UP WITH THE COMMUNITY'S GROWTH. THE STEP PLAN IS FOR FOLKS WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND A METHOD TO RETAIN TENURED EMPLOYEES AT FIVE-YEAR INCREMENTS OF TENURE. THE REASON WHY WE WANT TO MAINTAIN OR KEEP THESE EMPLOYEES IS BECAUSE OUR SURROUNDING COUNTIES ARE STARTING EMPLOYEES DEPUTIES OFF AT A MUCH HIGHER RATE THAN WE CAN AFFORD HERE IN CLAY COUNTY.

A STARTING DEPUTY STARTS IN CLAY COUNTY AT $38,000.

THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS MOVING TO $51,000 AS A STARTING SALARY. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE JACKSONVILLE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SALARY IS BUT IT'S MUCH FURTHER ALONG THAN $38,000. FOR CLAY COUNTY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DEPUTIES ARE THE LOWEST PAID LAW ENFORCEMENT EMPLOYEES IN THE COUNTY. I JUST WANT TO LET THAT SINK IN FOR A SECOND. BUT WE DO THE LION'S SHARE OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT WORK IN THE COUNTY.

LEVERAGING TECHNOLOGY AND THE REASON WHY WE WANT TO LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY IS DECREASE THE INEFFICIENCIES IN THE MANUAL INPUT OF THE WORK TO ALLOW THESE THINGS TO BE MADE MORE EFFICIENT AND DECREASE THE NEED OF SUPPORT STAFF.

AND LASTLY THERE TO ADDRESS THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, THERE ARE MAINTENANCE ISSUES THAT EXIST IN THESE FACILITIES.

A LOT OF THESE FACILITIES ARE AGED FACILITIES.

AND THEY REQUIRE MAINTENANCE. THERE IS NO FLUFFING OF THE BUDGET. THERE IS NO OVER INFLATING OF THE NUMBERS. THE NUMBERS ARE WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE. IF YOU HAVE OLD FACILITIES AND ANTIQUATED BUILDINGS THEY HAVE NEEDS.

JUST LIKE YOUR HOME. IF YOU LIVE IN YOUR HOME FOR ANY AMOUNT OF TIME, YOU LIVE THERE FOR DECADES, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE MAINTENANCE ISSUES. THE MAINTENANCE ISSUES OF THIS BUDGET CYCLE ARE IN THE MILLIONS.

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AND THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE ACTIVITY LEVELS.

THE ACTIVITIES ARE FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE WATCHING THE DIFFERENT-- WE'LL CALL THEM ACCOUNTS THAT COMPRISE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BUDGET. AND YOU WILL SEE A HUMONGOUS-- I CONSIDER IT A HUE MINGOUS, INCREASE IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICE OF $3.5 MILLION. WHEN WE PREPARED THIS BUDGET I SAID MY GOODNESS WE ASKED FOR $10.2 MILLION THE LAST GO ROUND AND NOW WE'RE ASKING FOR MULTIPLE MILLIONS TO BE ADDED TO THE BUDGET AGAIN. IN THE FACE OF A PANDEMIC THAT HAS NEGATIVELY IMPACTED THIS COUNTY.

BUT THE NEEDS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE STILL THE SAME.

AND AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, LAST YEAR I WILL ASK FOR WHAT WE NEED BUT AM FLEXIBLE ENOUGH TO ADJUST TO THE COUNTY TO MEET SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE. IT'S NOT A NEGOTIATION TACTIC BUT I DO HAVE TO ASK FOR WHAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE NEEDS.

PUBLIC SAFETY IS MY BUSINESS AND POLITICS IS NOT.

THE COUNTY BUDGET IS YOUR BUSINESS AND NOT MINE.

I JUST AM ONE PLAYER IN THAT. SO, YOU WILL SEE THE DIFFERENT INCREASES BUT THAT BIGGEST ONE IS $3.5 MILLION.

THE BUILDING MAINTENANCE IS ALSO A LARGE NUMBER.

YOU WILL SEE SOME DECREASES IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AND THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS AND, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE CUT WE CUT.

THERE ARE WANTS AND THERE ARE NEEDS.

AND TO BUILD THIS BUDGET WE PUT THE NEEDS IN THERE.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO SOME OF THE BUILDING AND MAINTENANCE THINGS WE CAN KICK THESE THINGS DOWN THE ROAD OR SCRATCH THE WHOLE THING. THE BUILDINGS DON'T BELONG TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IT BELONGS TO THE BCC.

AS WE LOOK FOR WAYS TO MEET THE BCC IN THE MIDDLE, I'VE ALREADY PUT ON THE TABLE WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER THAT THE CAD WHICH YOU WILL SEE REFLECTED IN A FEW SLIDES, THE COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH WHICH IS OUR MEANS FOR RECEIVING AND DISPATCHING CALLS THAT'S A $2 MILLION PLATFORM THAT CAN BE PUSHED DOWN THE RODE AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR BUT AFTER THAT-- WE'RE ALREADY AT END OF LIFE AND IT'S JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, FIXING UP AN OLD BEATER.

YOU CAN KICK IT DOWN THE ROAD BUT EVENTUALLY IT WILL BREAK ON YOU. IF THE CAD SYSTEM BREAKS WE WILL BE MOVING BACKWARDS BY THREE DECADES IN THE WAY WE DISPATCH CALLS. IT WILL BE ALL MANUAL AND PAPER INPUT. I'M NOT GOING TO BORE YOU WITH DETAILS. OR I CAN.

WITH SOME OF THESE NUMBERS THAT YOU ARE SEEING.

I'M TALK ABOUT THE PERSONNEL AND OPERATING EXPENDITURES, THE PERSONNEL SERVICES PART OF THAT SOON.

THE IMPORTANT PARTS HERE AND I'M NOT ONE WHO NORMALLY MAKE AS BUNCH OF NOTES BUT THE CAPITAL OUTLAY INCREASE OF $14,000 OR THREE PERCENT IS FOR A REDUCTION IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND REVENUE. AND THAT RESULTED FROM THE CHANGE OF THE FLORIDA CONTRABAND ACT AND THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES AND UPCOMING BUDGET YEAR WILL RELY ON AD VALOREM TAXES VERSUS THAT FUNDING THAT IS NOW GONE AND THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE SWAT EQUIPMENT, TACTICAL VESTS AND OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT EQUIPMENT PURCHASED THROUGH THAT TRUST FUND.

SO IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT TRUST FUND ACCESS OR THOSE DOLLARS THEN WE HAVE TO GET THE MONEY SOMEWHERE BECAUSE THE NEED DOESN'T GO AWAY. WE STILL HAVE SWAT PEOPLE.

WE STILL HAVE TO RESPOND TO HIGH RISK SITUATIONS AND THEY STILL NEED TO HAVE THE EQUIPMENT TO KEEP THEM SAFE, TO KEEP YOU SAFE. THE FIRST NUMBER-- THIS IS THE PERSONNEL SERVICES REQUEST. THESE ARE THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES. AND THAT'S A FLEXIBLE NUMBER ALTHOUGH I WOULD LOVE IT TO BE CONCRETE I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, BE FLEXIBLE AND GOOD SWARDS STEWARDS OF THE TAX PAIRS DOLLAR. THE FIRST THING YOU WILL SEE IS FIVE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE DEPUTY SHERIFFS.

THAT'S FIVE INDIVIDUALS. THOSE COSTS ARE THE COPS HIRING GRANT THAT THE COMMISSION IS AWARE OF.

FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SUPPLY FOR COPS, COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING, STRATEGIES GRANT AND WE WERE AWARDED THE GRANT BUT IT STILL REQUIRES COMMISSION APPROVAL BECAUSE THE GRANT ONLY ACCOUNTS FOR 75 PERCENT OF THOSE FIVE DEPUTIES SALARIES AND IT WOULD BE THE COMMISSION'S RESPONSIBILITY TO UNDERWRITE THE OTHER 25-- REMAINING 25 PERCENT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE HANDS OF THE COMMISSION.

AND LIKE YOU ARE GETTING FIVE EMPLOYEES FOR THE COST OF A FEW.

ADDITIONALLY, THE OTHER FOUR DEPUTIES ARE TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH THE GROWTH OF THE COUNTY.

AND WE'RE TAKING BABY STEPS. AND THOSE BABY STEPS ARE JUST FOUR EMPLOYEES. I GO BACK TO THE FIVE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE FOLKS. DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN THIS COUNTY

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IS ACCOUNTING FOR ALMOST 50 PERCENT OF VIOLENT CRIMES.

EVERYTHING-- IT'S NOT EVERYTHING BUT A LOT OF THE CRIMES ARE TIED TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ARE JUST PEOPLE CANNOT KEEP THEIR HANDS TO THEMSELVES FOR WHATEVER REASON.

SO I HAD TO STAND UP A UNIT THAT WAS DEDICATED TO NOTHING BUT DEALING WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ISSUES AND WAYS TO MITIGATE THOSE THINGS FROM RECURRING. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SEE THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM TRENDING YOU HAVE TO CUT THAT OFF AND DEAL WITH THAT PROBLEM AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND THAT IS THE ONLY REASON WHY WE REQUESTED THOSE FIVE POSITIONS THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GRANT.

THE PSAS, THOSE ARE FORCE MULTIPLIERS.

I THINK YOU HAVE SEEN THEM AROUND TIME.

THEY HANDLE THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DEPUTIES COULD BE TIED UP DEALING WITH-- TRAFFIC ISSUES AND DIRECTING TRAFFIC AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT TO USE A PSA IT SERVES SOCIETY BETTER THAN PULLING SOMEBODY WHO CAN ENFORCE THE LAWS, I.E. RESPOND TO CRIMES, VERSUS LETTING THEM DO LITTLE ANCILLARY JOBS LIKE THAT. THERE ARE TWO RN POSITIONS BEING REQUESTED IN DETENTION. THAT'S THE JAIL NURSE.

AND THEY'RE NEEDED. CAN WE SPREAD THAT OUT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE 24 HOUR COVERAGE OF NURSES.

CAN WE SPREAD THAT OUT AND MAKE ONE INDIVIDUAL WORK SOME SWING SHIFT YEAH BUT THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE TIMES WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A NURSE. SO, YOU KNOW, IT IS A 21ST CENTURY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY WE SHOULD REFLECT THAT IN OUR STAFFING. AND IF A 21ST CENTURY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR A JAIL, THEN WE SHOULD HAVE THE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE TO DEAL WITH THE INMATES WHO ARE IN OUR CARE. THE BUILDING MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN. WE'RE ASKING FOR ONE IN RECORD SPECIALISTS ALSO ASKING FOR ONE. ARE THESE ABSOLUTES? ABSOLUTELY NOT. THE RECORD SPECIALIST IS DEFINITELY NEEDED BECAUSE WE ARE INUNDATED ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS WITH PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.

BUT THEY DO MORE THAN JUST THOSE THINGS.

THEY DEAL WITH THE OTHER RECORDS AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE RECORDS. SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE NEGOTIABLE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND THIS IS JUST A BREAKDOWN. WHICH SHOWS THE DIFFERENT OPERATING EXPENSES AND MAJOR PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES THAT ARE BUILT INTO THE BUDGET. AND I CAN GO DOWN THE LIST.

$3.1 MILLION. IT'S 33.65 PERCENT.

THAT'S A BIG CHUNK. THAT'S 33 PERCENT INCREASE.

THE CAT. YOU SAY WHY.

THE PURCHASE IS NECESSARY AS OUR CURRENT SOFTWARE VENDOR CEASED NEW DEVELOPMENT ON OUR PLATFORM. WHICH MEANS IF SOMETHING BREAKS, WE CAN'T FIX IT. SO IT'S LIKE ANNANCE ACQUITTED PIECE OF MATERIAL. I SKIP DOWN TO THE-- ERP SYSTEM.

THAT IS A PIECE OF SOFTWARE THAT WAS STREAMLINED SO MANY PROCESSES THROUGH INTERFACE THAT IT ACTUALLY MAY ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR THREE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.

SO, TO ME THAT'S A BIG INVESTMENT BUT IT WILL EVENTUALLY PAY FOR ITSELF IF IT WILL DO AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR THAT MANY PEOPLE. THE INMATE MEDICAL.

INCREASES ARE BASED ON CONTRACTUAL CHANGES AND THAT WAS FOR THE PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN AND OFFSITE MEDICAL EXPENSES.

IT'S BEYOND OUR CONTROL. THE COMMUNICATIONS PART.

ADDITIONAL MY TIES, REDUBBED ARNETH SYSTEM, AND TO HAVE BACK-UP FOR THAT SYSTEM. A NEGOTIABLE ITEM WHICH IS THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WELLNESS IS PHASE 1 APPROACH OF A PRODUCT TO CONDUCT ANNUAL MENTAL WELLNESS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT BEST PRACTICES IS TO DO A RECURRING MENTAL WELLNESS EVALUATION.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THESE MEN AND WOMEN ARE EXPOSED TO WILL MAKE SOME PEOPLE SHUTTER BUT THEY DO IT FOR A LIVING AND WE DO IT FOR A LIVING. BUT YOU DON'T WANT AND I DON'T WANT ANYBODY GOING OFF THE RESERVATION, IF YOU WILL FOR LACK OF BETTER TERMS, WHEN WE CAN CATCH THAT STUFF AND MITIGATE IT ON THE FRONT END. THE JAIL CLEANING.

THERE'S THE DIGNITY FOR WOMEN ACT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEYOND OUR CONTROL.

THEN INCREASED NEED DUE TO COVID FOR CLEANING MATERIALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO MITIGATE, YOU KNOW, THE GERMS IN THE JAIL.

IT'S A CLEAN JAIL BUT THOSE THINGS THAT YOU CAN'T SEE ARE THE THINGS THAT HAVE US IN A PANDEMIC RIGHT NOW.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THE BUILDING MAINTENANCE PROJECTS. JUST WANT YOU TO SEE THEM.

THE CHILLER REPLACEMENT AND I'M GOING TO GO INTO DETAIL ON THESE BUT ALL OF THIS STUFF YOU CAN SAY SCRATCH IT ALL AND YOU KNOW WHO AM I. THE BUILDING DOESN'T BELONG TO ME IT BELONGS TO YOU ALL. SO IT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE.

CHILLER REPLACEMENT AND ENCLOSURE.

DEFERRED FROM THE PREVIOUS YEARS DUE TO WITHHOLD CARRY FORWARD FUNDS. WE GAVE BACK $2 MILLION LAST GO ROUND OR ROUGHLY $2 MILLION LAST GO ROUND THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO AND THAT'S FINE. BUT THIS GO ROUND WE ACTUALLY

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NEED, AGAIN, WE NEED TO HAVE THIS STUFF.

IT WAS KICKED DOWN THE ROAD BUT NOW IT'S UPON US AGAIN.

IF THE CHILLERS GO DOWN, THEN YOU HAVE NO AIR CONDITIONING.

IF THERE'S NO AIR CONDITIONING IN A JAIL, THAT COULD BE PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE THERE'S MANDATORY STANDARDS WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH IN DEALING WITH INMATES.

THE GENERAOR IS 24 YEARS OLD. IT'S OLD.

AND IT'S THE BACK-UP GENERATOR TO THE JAIL.

THE FUNCTIONAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE JAIL IS STILL IT ALL RESOLVES AROUND THE JAIL. ADA RENOVATIONS.

REPLACING 40-YEAR-OLD FLOORING. AND INSTALLING OF THE NEW CAMERA SYSTEM. THE THING TO NOTE AND I MENTIONED THIS LAST YEAR THE SYSTEM IS PROGRAMMED BY A FLOPPY DISK. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW YOU COULD FIND A FLOPPY DISK AND I KNOW THERE'S PEOPLE HOLDING THEIR LAUGHS IN VIEWING THIS GOING DO WE EVEN HAVE PLATFORMS THAT OPERATE OFF FLOPPY DISKS. YEAH AT THE CLAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. AND THERE'S NO REPLACEMENT FOR PARTS THAT FAIL. I DIDN'T PURCHASE IT.

I INHERITED IT. MY PREDECESSOR PURCHASED IT.

AND THEY THOUGHT THAT WAS THE BEST WAY TO GO AND SO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH BUT WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE AWAY FROM THAT WE WILL. THE AIR HANDLER IS AN CRITICAL NEED TO INSURE THE AIR CONDITION EVERY THE DAVID MIGHT MEMORIAL BUILDING AND JAIL ARE REPLACEABLE.

THAT BOTTOM PIECE RIGHT THERE IS A WANT AND NOT A NEED.

SO, THAT'S NOT NEGOTIABLE ITEM. NEXT SLIDE.

NOPE. YES.

THESE ARE JUST THINGS I JUST PUT IN THERE BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO KNOW THE THINGS THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PUT INTO THIS NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE. WHAT THE LONG-TERM IMPACTS FROM COVID-19? HOW DO WE KNOW.

WE'LL KNOW NEXT YEAR. AND WE'LL TRY TO BUILD A BUDGET THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF THE NEEDS OF THE FOLLOWING YEAR THAT TIE BACK TO COVID-19. BODY WORN CAMERAS, BEST PRACTICES, THINGS SPOKEN ABOUT IN THE PRESIDENT'S EXECUTIVE ORDER. WE CAN'T AFFORD IT.

I MEAN, I CAN MEET THE BASIC NEEDS OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE NOT TO MENTION TRYING TO GO OUT TO THE 22ND CENTURY AND DO THINGS THAT OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ARE DOING IN THE 21ST CENTURY CAPACITY BUT IT'S A NEED AND IT'S JUST A WANT AND NOT A NEED. SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

THE SALARY SURVEY. IT SAYS SALARY SURE SAY BUT WE HAD THE SURVEY DONE IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

AND THE RESULTS-- THE PRELIMINARY COMPENSATION RESULTS NOTE THAT CLOSE TO 300 MEMBERS ARE BELOW THE RECOMMENDED MINIMUM SALARY FOR THEIR POSITION.

AND THE COST TO IMPLEMENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS, THAT'S FLEXIBLE, BUT THE COST TO IMPLEMENT IT IS $900,000 PLUS FRS AND FICA. SO, DO THE MATH THERE.

JUST A SLIDE THAT SPEAKS TO THE GROWTH OF THE COMMUNITY.

THIS COMES FROM THE BUREAU OF ECONOMICS AND BUSINESS RESEARCH UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA. IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO SEE HOW THEY PROJECT THE GROWTH OF CLAY COUNTY.

I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AROUND TOO FAR TO SEE THE NEXT SLIDE THAT THE CLAY COUNTY COMMUNITY IS GROWING AROUND US.

AND THIS SLIDE REFLECTS THE NEED FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO KEEP UP WITH THE GROWING POPULATION.

AND I'LL SAY IT LIKE THIS. THE CURRENT LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FOR 2020 IS 287. THE RATIO PER 1,000 CITIZENS IS 1.31. TO MAINTAIN THAT LEVEL WE WOULD NEED TO INCREASE, INCREASE ON TOP OF THE NUMBERS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE BY 44 DEPUTIES BY 2030.

SO, WE'RE TAKING BABY STEPS. WE'RE ASKING FOR FOUR DEPUTIES AND FIVE ARE COVERED-- FIVE OTHERS THAT ARE COVERED BY A GRANT. AN ADDITIONAL 30 DEPUTIES BY 2040. AND WE'LL CONTINUALLY ASK, BABY STEPS, FOR A FEW DEPUTIES INCREASED TO THE STAFFING LEVELS HERE AND THERE. I'LL ENTERTAIN YOU WITH IF WE TRIED TO KEEP UP WITH THE 1.72, THAT WOULD BE A NEED TO HIRE 147 DEPUTIES BY 2030 THEN ANOTHER 40 BY 2040.

AND THIS IS JUST A SLIDE TO SHOW THE FUTURE NEEDS OF JAIL EXPANSION AND/OR ENHANCEMENT. WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD.

WE HAVE TAKEN SOME STEPS TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY AT THE JAIL. SO, YOU KNOW, ANTICIPATING DOWN THE ROAD WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROBABLY NOT ON ANY OF OUR WATCH HAVE TO EXPAND THE JAIL OPERATION BUT YOU WILL SEE IT IN

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YOUR LIFETIME. WHAT WE DID DO UNDER THE CARES ACT, WE'RE DEFERRING A LOT OF THINGS, A LOT OF THE COSTS THAT WOULD HIT THE GENERAL FUND. WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH THAT INTO THE CARES ACT GRANT. HIGHLIGHTED AREAS.

REPLACING WORN MEDICAL CELL HIGH SECURITY DOOR DOORS.

REPLACING CONTROL PANELS ON ALL FLOORS WITHIN THE JAIL AND INSTALLING OF X-RAY WALK-THROUGH SCANNER TO DETECT CONTRABAND.

QUESTIONS? YOU PROBABLY GOT PLENTY.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: SHERIFF, THANK YOU, APPRECIATE THAT IN DEPTH LOOK AT ALL THOSE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

I JUST HAD A QUESTION IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE COVID.

BECAUSE YOU DID MENTION SOME CLEANING AREAS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. WOULDN'T THAT BE COVERED UNDER SOME OF THE CARES ACT? I KNOW YOU PUT IN FOR MONEYS

RIGHT? >> SPEAKER: YES.

I THINK THERE'S TWO OPTIONS AND THE COUNTY WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT BOTH. IT'S EITHER STAFFORD ACT WHICH RIGHT NOW IS-- WHAT IS IT 90 PERCENT, JOHN?

>> IT IS 95.5. >> SO, I MEAN, THE FIRST THING WOULD BE IF WE'VE ALREADY SPENT THE MONEY TO LOOK AT STAFFORD ACT UNDER THATHA FOR REIMBURSEMT FROM THE STATE.

OR USING CARES ACT MONEY TO BUY THOSE.

SO, BOTH ARE OPTIONS. AND I THINK THAT THE COUNTY WOULD NEED-- THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT BOTH TO BEST LEVERAGE THE MONEY. BUT YES TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THEY ARE CARES ACT ELIGIBLE AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ON SOME ITEMS THROUGH THE CARES ACT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS AND THIS MAY BE JUST IN TERMS OF GETTING THIS INFORMATION.

BUT ORIGINALLY I NOTICED THAT YOUR FIRST SLIDE WAS TOTAL REQUEST OR TOTAL ASK WAS 69, 753, $676.

HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO THE $67,760 THAT YOU HAD GIVEN US

EARLIER? >> THE SPECIAL REVENUE IS NOT ON

THE SHEET THERE. >> I WILL ADD TO NOTE ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SLIDE FROM THE COUNTY, IT REFLECTED A 1.326 FIGURE FOR US. WHEN I SUBMITTED A 1.717388.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT 300 INTO THOUSAND FIGURE WAS A TYPO BUT THAT'S A $392,000 REDUCTION IN ASK OR PROPOSAL.

I SUBMITTED THAT IT NEEDS TO BE PUT BACK IN THERE BECAUSE I

DIDN'T SIGN OFF IT ON. >> COUNCILMEMBER: WHICH LINE

ITEM? >> THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.

ACTUALLY THE ONE THAT YOU SAW FROM MS. OLGA AS IT PERTAINED TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.

IT WAS SHY $392,000. >> SO THAT NUMBER THE DOLLAR 1.7

IS THE CORRECT NUMBER. >> YES

>> COUNCILMEMBER: THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS IN REGARDS TO THE COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH UPGRADE, ISN'T THAT SOMETHING WE'RE HANDLING OR HOPING TO HANDLE THROUGH THE CONSOLIDATION? WHOEVER WANTS TO JUMP IN.

>> I THINK THERE'S TWO PARTS TO IT.

I'LL START THEN THE SHERIFF CAN FINISH.

THERE'S TWO PARTS TO CAD. YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER THE DISPATCH-- THEIR CALL TAKING SIDE.

WHICH IF WE CONSOLIDATE WOULD BE A COMBINED FRONT END FOR TAKING THE CALL AND HANDLING IT. THEN THEY BOTH GO TO THEIR SEPARATE TRUE CAD SIDE FOR DISPATCHING, FOR RECORDS MANAGEMENT, FOR ALL THAT STUFF. SO, YOU HAVE THE FIRE RESCUE CAD, DISPATCH, REPORTS, THEN YOU HAVE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THEY HAVE OTHER COMPONENTS TO THEIRS.

I'M SURE THEY HAVE A JAIL PACKAGE, CANTEEN PACKAGE, ALL THOSE OTHER PACKAGES ATTACHED TO THEIR CAD.

SO, YES AND NO. >> COUNCILMEMBER: BUT IN TERMS OF IF WE WORK ON A CONSOLIDATION AND WE'RE WORKING WITH A SEPARATE PACKAGE THAT WE PUT IN PLACE THEIR PACKAGE WOULD HAVE TO BE UPGRADED ALONG WITH THAT COMPONENT RIGHT?

>> RIGHT. THAT'S SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ABOUT YOU KNOW WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AS WE GO FORWARD.

WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ON IF THEY GOT RFP US BEING PART OF IT.

>> AND THROUGH THE CHAIR WE'RE TOTALLY ON BOARD WITH THE

CONSOLIDATED COMES PACKAGE. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE MOVING TOWARDS REPLACING THE DISPATCH INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF A WHOLE CONSOLIDATION PACKAGE RATHER THAN TRYING TO PIECEMEAL IT THEN TRYING TO BACK TRACK AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEEDED TO [INAUDIBLE].

SO WE'RE ALL TALKING SORT OF THE SAME LANGUAGE THERE.

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SHERIFF, YOU SAID 287 FOR ACTUAL LAW ENFORCEMENT? 287 IN TERMS OF YOUR COUNT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND YOU ARE

ADDING 9 RIGHT. >> YES.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: FIVE FOR THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND FOUR

REGULAR DEPUTIES. >> YES.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: LAST TIME WE TALKED BUDGET WE REFERRED SOME OF OUR OPERATIONS TO WHAT THEY WERE DOING IN ST. JOHNS AND YOU MADE THE COMMENT THEIR TECHNOLOGY WAS SUBSTANTIALLY BETTER THAN OURS AND WE NEEDED TO GET THERE AND THAT WOULD HELP YOU REDUCE THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS YOU NEEDED.

HAVE YOU GIVEN ANY THOUGHT TO A PLAN TO PULL THAT TOGETHER AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST US?

>> THROUGH THE CHAIR I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. THE C3 PROJECT.

AND THAT WAS NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

WHAT THAT DID IS MAKE RESPONSE TIMES BETTER AND APPREHENSION CAPABILITY BETTER. IT DOESN'T-- TECHNOLOGY DOES NOT REPLACE THE NEED FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT BODIES.

IT JUST DOESN'T DO IT. >> COUNCILMEMBER: BUT WE HAVE LOOKED AT DOING ANYTHING IN THEIR AREAS.

THEIR CRIME RATE IS A LOT LESS THAN OURS.

>> SURE IT IS. THEY HAVE MORE DEPUTIES.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING WITH

THIS MONEY IS REDUCING CRIME. >> ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: OTHER THAN DEPLOYING A LOT OF OFFICERS.

SO THE ANSWER IS NO. >> WHAT'S THE QUESTION?

>> COUNCILMEMBER: HAVE WE GOT A PLAN TO INCREASE THE TECHNOLOGY TO STATE OF THE ART SO THAT WE CAN REDUCE CRIME?

>> WE DO. WE DO HAVE A PLAN AND WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS THAT PLAN. SO, WE'VE TAPPED INTO-- WELL I AM THE CHAIR OF THE REGION 3 DOMESTIC SECURITY TASK FORCE.

SO I HAD OUR FOLKS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT AREA SUBMIT THROUGH RDSTF AND, OF COURSE, I TOLD MY CO-CHAIR I WANT CLAY COUNTY'S TO BE PUSHED TO THE FRONT.

I WOULDN'T BE BEING A GOOD CO-CHAIR IF MY OWN HOUSE WASN'T KEPT CLEAN. SO, OUR STUFF IS BEING MOVED TO THE HEAD OF THE TABLE. AND I DON'T FORESEE KNIT THE NEAR FUTURE BEING DENIED. ESPECIALLY SINCE I SIT ON THE DOMESTIC SECURITY OVERSIGHT COUNCIL.

THAT IS THE APPROVING BODY. I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE US DENYING SOMETHING THAT COMES FROM MY HOUSE.

AND IT'S VERY RARELY DOES NORTHEAST FLORIDA GET THE FUNDING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS. SO, ANY TIME A NORTHEAST FLORIDA AGENCY APPLY INS FOR SOMETHING WE TYPICALLY GET FUNDED.

TYPICALLY YOU SEE A LOT OF DOLLARS MOVING TO CENTRAL AND SOUTH FLORIDA BUT WHEN WE ASK WE TYPICALLY GET THOSE FUNDS.

ANY GRANT FUNDING WE CAN GET THAT DOES NOT FUNNEL THROUGH THE COUNTY WE ACCESS THOSE FUNDS. SO, WE'RE GETTING DOLLARS TO MOVE TOWARDS FULLY STAFF UP THE C3 PROJECT WHICH WILL TURN INTO A REALTIME CRIME CENTER. THAT'S THE ULTIMATE GOAL.

AND THAT WOULD CERTAINLY PUT US IN THE 21ST CENTURY WITH BEST PRACTICES IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE'RE CLOSE.

WE'RE GETTING THERE. WE'RE EXPANDING ON IT.

AND WE'RE TRYING NOT TO TAP INTO THE COUNTY'S FUNDING TO DO THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TAKING-- YOU CALL IT BABY STEPS, IT'S HUNDREDS OF ONE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AT A TIME BUT THAT'S HUNDREDS OF ONE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT THE COUNTY DOESN'T NEED TO BE SPENDING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF WE DON'T NEED TO. FAIR ENOUGH?

THAT'S A YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I HAVE ONE

QUESTION. >> COUNCILMEMBER: PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH AGAIN. THAT'S A NO.

I THINK YOU OUGHT TO HAVE A PLAN PULLED TOGETHER AND COME AT US

WITH A NUMBER. >> WE CAN GIVE YOU A PLAN.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN FIND THE FUNDING SOMEWHERE.

>> YOU WANT A PLAN, WE HAVE A PLAN.

I'LL MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE PLAN.

IS THAT FAIR? >> COUNCILMEMBER: YEP.

>> SPEAKER: OKAY. THROUGH THE CHAIR I'M SORRY.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION THAT I HAD WRITTEN DOWN I FORGOT ABOUT. ON THE FIVE DEPUTIES THAT WE CAN GET, DID WE GET THOSE ALREADY OR THAT'S IN THE FUTURE AND FOR HOW

MANY YEARS DO THEY PAY? >> THEY PAY FOR THREE YEARS.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

>> SO THAT'S THREE YEARS OF 75 PERCENT BEING PAID THROUGH THE GRANT. AND THE COUNTY 25 PERCENT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: OKAY. >> COUNCILMEMBER: MR. CHAIR.

I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE NURSES FOR THE JAIL.

HOW UCH IS THE COST FOR THE TWO ADDITIONAL AND IS IT A REQUIREMENT IT HAS TO BE A NURSE? LIKE COULD IT BE AN EMT, PARAMEDIC.

>> NO IT HAS TO BE A NURSE. >> COUNCILMEMBER: THAT'S LIKE A STATE OR FEDERAL LAW OR SOMETHING?

>> YEAH THERE'S CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS OF WHO HAS TO BE STAFFED UP IN A JAIL. THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS TO HAVE AN R.N. IDEALLY YOU WOULD WANT 24 HOUR COVERAGE THROUGH AN RN BUT RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT.

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>> COUNCILMEMBER: I GUESS MY QUESTION IS IF THEY HAVE AN EMERGENCY THAT REQUIRES HOSPITALIZATION WHAT HAPPENS?

>> THEY'RE TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: WHAT DOES 24 HOUR COVERAGE PROVIDE THAT LIKE BECAUSE EMS HAS TO RESPOND IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY THAT REQUIRES HOSPITALIZATION ANYWAYS RIGHT.

>> SURE. BUT EVERYTHING THROUGH THE CHAIR

DOESN'T REQUIRE HOSPITALIZATION. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I'M JUST SAYING WHAT DO WE GAIN-- WHAT DO THE TAXPAYERS GAIN BY HAVING

ADDITIONAL NURSES IN THE JAIL? >> SO, 24 HOUR COVERAGE TO PASS MEDS IN THE MAJORITY OF THE INMATES IN THE JAIL ARE ON MEDICATION. TO PASS MEDS IT HAS TO COME UNDER THE LICENSURE OR CERTIFICATION OF THE RN.

SO IF THE R.N. IS NOT THERE, THE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE NOT RN'S SHOULD NOT BE PASSING MEDS TO INMATES.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO IT JUST HAMPERS OUR ABILITY TO MAINTAIN A HEALTHY INMATE POPULATION.

I'LL GIVE YOU A CASE IN POINT. DURING A TIME WHEN THE RN IS NOT THERE IF SOMETHING HAPPENS IN AND THAT INMATE NEEDS MEDICAL ATTENTION NOT NECESSARILY TO BE SENT TO A HOSPITAL, IF A NURSE WAS ON HAND TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO PASS MEDS THAT WOULD BE A QUICK FIX. BUT THEN IT COSTS US TO TRANSPORT-- THAT'S NOT A FREE SERVICE-- IT COSTS TO TRANSPORT SOMEONE TAKE THEM TO THE HOSPITAL AND YOU ARE INCURRING MORE COSTS AT THE HOSPITAL THAT YOU WOULD BE MITIGATING IF YOU HAD AN R.N. ON CAMPUS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I KNOW WE'D LIKE TO SAY HERE ARE THE BAD APPLES OF SOCIETY TUCK THEM AWAY AND THROW AWAY THE KEY.

BUT MAJORITY OF FOLKS WHO ARE DOING EITHER COUNTY TIME OR WHO ARE UNSENTENCED ARE FOLKS WHO ARE GOING TO GO BACK INTO SOCIETY IN A SHORT TURN AROUND. SO, THESE ARE YOUR NEIGHBORS AND FOLKS THAT YOU SEE ON A RECURRING BASIS THAT YOU MAY NOT KNOW HAVE BEEN IN JAIL VERSUS THE PERSON WHO IS GOING TO

PRISON FOR 10, 15 YEARS. >> COUNCILMEMBER: JUST SEEMS LIKE THE INMATES ARE GETTING BETTER HEALTHCARE THAN THE

AVERAGE CITIZENS. >> IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR A LONG TIME. I DON'T MANDATE THAT.

I HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON HOW WE SHOULD DEAL WITH THEM BUT THEY SAID I CAN'T PUT THEM IN SHACKLES AND HAVE THEM IN DITCHES. THEY SAID SHACKLES WERE NOT GOOD P.R. AND ON THE OPTICS. BUT I HAVE THEM IN DITCHES WITHOUT ALL OF THAT. BUT THERE'S A GUY STANDING AROUND WITH AN AR-15 IF THEY DO GET ON THE LOOSE.

WE DO ALL WE CAN TO WORK THEM. >> COUNCILMEMBER: WITH ALL DUE RESPECT WE HAVE A LOT OF MENTAL ILLNESS IN JAIL.

SO THE MEDICATION IS IMPORTANT. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, YOU ARE MAKING A VERY GOOD POINT. THE JAIL IN CLAY COUNTY IS THE LARGEST HOLDING FACILITY FOR MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE.

THAT'S EVERY JAIL IN EVERY COMMUNITY.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THE FORGOTTEN OF SOCIETY AND PEOPLE HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO WITH THEM AND THEY THROW THEM AWAY TO THE JAIL AS IF THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS WRONG.

I USED TO HAVE A DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH ABOUT THAT UNTIL I HAD A CLOSE ENCOUNTER WITH SOMEBODY WHO WAS MENTALLY ILL AND I FELT REAL BAD ABOUT THE WAY THAT I FELT ABOUT HIM INITIALLY ON FIRST BLUSH. BUT WHEN I REALIZED HE COULDN'T CONTROL WHAT HE WAS DOING, THAT CHANGED THE WAY IS WA THINKING.

THAT CHANGED THE WAY I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT POPULATION.

WITH PROPER MEDICATION, THEY'RE GOOD TO GO.

WITHOUT THAT THEY HAVE CHALLENGES AND WE SOMETIMES JUST SEE THEM AS THE BAD GUY AND THEY'RE NOT.

THEY JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: MR. CHAIR, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION IF I COULD. SHERIFF, AND THIS GOES BACK TO JUST THINKING ABOUT YOUR SALARY SURVEY AND TRYING TO GET UP TO PAR WITH SOME OF THE SURROUNDING ORGANIZATIONS.

WE HAVE 287LEOS. THOSE ARE FILLED POSITIONS?

>> YES THEY'RE FILLED. >> COUNCILMEMBER: SO 287 IS THAN

EXACTLY WHERE WE SHOULD BE. >> WE'RE FLUSH.

I MEAN, WITH OUR APPROVED POSITIONS-- WELL I TAKE THAT BACK. WE DID-- WE HAVE SOME ON THEIR WAY OUT THE DOOR BUT WE DON'T HAVE A BUNCH OF THEM OUT THE DOOR. JUST FOR DISCIPLINARY ISSUES.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: SO YOU ARE TALKING AND HAFUL.

>> NOT EVEN THAT. >> COUNCILMEMBER: OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: SHERIFF, LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

THIS IS NOT ONLY TO CONSIDER YOUR REQUEST NOW BUT LET ME FOR A MOMENT HARKEN BACK OVER YOUR TERM AND SEE IF KEY JUAN BRING SOME CLARIFICATION TO AN UP KEL ITEMS STANDING OUT IN MY MIND AND THE COMMUNITY'S. WHEN SHERIFF LAST YEAR OF HIS TENURE HE HAD THE GEESHTHED WITH FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE TO BRING $2.1 MILLION TO THE TABLE TO ASSIST IN BUILDING THE GUN RANGE. NEXT THING I KNOW OR WE KNOW THE MONEY WAS GIVEN TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

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CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? >> SURE.

IN FACT, TALKING ABOUT THE FBI. THE FBI WE MET WITH THEM AND THE SAC AT THE TIME ASSURED ME THOSE DOLLARS WOULD BE COMING HERE AND THEY WOULD BE BUILDING. WE WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

THAT'S A DECISION THEY MADE WITHOUT INPUT OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR ANY EXPLANATION TO US OTHER THAN THEY CHANGED COURSE.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: WELL MAYBE YOU CAN ENLIGHTEN ME THEN.

I'LL JUST TELL YOU WHAT I HEARD AND YOU CAN COMMENT ON IT.

THEY HAD REACHED OUT TO YOU A NUMBER OF TIMES TO GET TOGETHER TO PUT THIS THING INTO MOTION AND YOU WERE UNRESPONSIVE AND

WOULD NOT CALL THEM BACK. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, THAT WOULD

BE UNTRUE. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: OKAY.

>> WHY WOULD I-- CHAIR, WHY WOULD I AS A SHERIFF OF A 21ST CENTURY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY HAMPER OR IMPEDE THE PROGRESS OF HAVING A GUN RANGE FOR MY AGENCY THAT IS COSTING US MONEY AND GAS, MONEY AND SENDING FOLKS TO ANOTHER COUNTY TO FACILITATE OUR REQUALIFICATIONS, WHY WOULD I GET IN THE WAY OF DOING THAT? IT DEFIES LOGIC.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: IT DOES. BUT THE EXPLANATION I WAS GIVEN AFTER MAKING SOME INQUIRY THAT YOU WERE AFRAID IF THE FBI ACTUALLY PUT MONEY INTO THE RANGE THEY WOULD CONTROL IT AND YOU DIDN'T WANT TO SHARE THE CONTROL WITH THE FBI.

>> TOTALLY UNTRUE. IN FACT, ONCE THAT GOT OFF THE TABLE, WE REACHED OUT TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA GAME AND THEY BUILD RANGES AND THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THEM BUILDING A RANGE FOR US AT THEIR COST. THEY PAY FOR IT.

AND WE'D BE TOTALLY OFF THE TABLE FOR HAVING TO PAY FOR ANYTHING. THAT DIDN'T PAN OUT EITHER.

HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE NOT BEING A

GOOD STAKEHOLDER. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: FOR WHATEVER REASON IT'S GOING TO COST THE TAXPAYERS $2 MILLION TO GET THIS THING UP AND RUNNING. OUT OF SOMEBODY'S BUDGET.

WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO GET IT THERE.

ANOTHER ITEM, IF YOU DON'T MIND INDULGING ME.

>> I'LL INDULGE THE CHAIR. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: TOLL US ABOUT THE COWBOY HATS. WHY CHANGE FROM WHAT WE HAD TO WHAT WE'VE GOT AND THE SUBSTANTIAL COST.

>> SURE. THROUGH THE CHAIR, THE SUBSTANTIAL COST WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S A FALLACY.

THOSE HATS, THE CAMPAIGN HATS WERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 100 PLUS DOLLARS. I CAN GET THE EXACT FIGURE FROM THE CFO. THE CURRENT HATS THAT WE WEAR ARE $49.99. YOU GET THEM FROM BOOT BARN.

IT IS A SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS. SO I AM NOT REALLY SURE-- WE ACTUALLY SOLD THE HATS THAT PEOPLE HAD.

LIKE I BOUGHT MY CAMPAIGN HAT. THE FOLKS WHO HAD CAMPAIGN HATS WHO WANTED TO BUY THEM WE ALLOWED THEM TO BUY..

WE TOLD THEM. AND THOSE DOLLARS WERE USED TO PURCHASE THE NEW ONES AT HALF THE COST.

AT LEAST HALF THE COST. SO, THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THINGS AND IF YOU ARE WILLING TO LISTEN TO THEM IT SOUNDS REAL BAD. BUT IT'S NOT TRUE.

I MEASURE EVERYTHING THAT I HEAR AND SEE WITH A GRAIN OF SALT.

I BELIEVE HALF THE STUFF I HEAR AND HALF THE STUFF I SEE.

BUT FACTS ARE FACTS. I CAN PUT THE FACTS ON THE TABLE FOR YOU. IT MAY BAFFLE YOU.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: AND THAT'S THE REASON I AM ASKING YOU.

IT IS A BAFFLING SITUATION WHEN YOU CAN'T GET TO THE ANSWER YOU THINK IS CORRECT. OKAY.

LET'S TRY THIS ONE ON. >> LET'S GO FOR IT.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: TELL US ABOUT THE YOGA INSTRUCTOR YOU

BROUGHT IN FOR YOUR STAFF. >> SURE.

AS YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE IN WASHINGTON, D.C. AT THE FBI NATIONAL ACADEMY CONFERENCE, ON THE SCHEDULE AS YOGA FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT. IT'S NOT THE TRADITIONAL DOWNWARD DOG AND BABY POSE AND ALL THE THINGS THAT I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE, BUT IT'S YOGA FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT IS A HORRIBLE SOUNDING TITLE, BUT WHAT IT DOES IS IT'S THOSE TACTICAL OPERATORS LIKE SWAT OPERATORS.

BECAUSE THEY'RE IN A HIGH PERFORMANCE, HIGH STRESS ENVIRONMENT, WHAT'S TRENDING ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN BEST PRACTICE IS THE ABILITY TO INSTRUCT THEM-- AND MIGHT IT ADD IT WAS NOT JUST A FEMALE BUT A GUY INSTRUCTOR AS WELL.

INSTRUCT THEM IN WAYS TO CONTROL WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN A HIGH STRESS SITUATION. THIS IS BEST PRACTICE.

THIS IS ENDORSE BID THE FBI. SO IT'S NOT SOME WILLY-NILLY LET ME JUST GRAB SOME YOGA INSTRUCTOR AND BRING HER TO CLAY COUNTY. DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT.

WE'VE HAD MORE EXPENSIVE TRAINING THAN THE $5,000 THAT THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS CHARGED US TO CONDUCT THIS TRAINING WITH

OUR SWAT OPERATORS. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: WHO GOT THAT

>> I'M SORRY? SWAT OPERATORS.

THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT THE MOST. THE ONE WHO OPERATE IN THE

HIGHEST OF STRESS LEVELS. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: OKAY.

LET'S MOVE ON TO THE STAFF GOING TO DISNEY WORLD.

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DOES THAT RING A BELL WITH YOU? >> I KNOW WHERE ALL THE DOLLARS OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ARE SPENT.

I AM NOT A POOR STEWARD OF TAXPAYER'S DOLLARS.

SO, ACROSS THIS COUNTRY YOU SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE NEWS.

AND THAT IS THAT YOU HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES WHO HAVE STRAINED RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY'RE SWORN TO SERVE. SO I SENT A FEW, AND I MEAN A FEW INDIVIDUALS TO DISNEY FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE TRAINING.

CUSTOMER SERVICE TRAINING. NOT TO RIDE RIDES LIKE ONE OF MY CONSTITUTIONALS DID ON VACATION BUT TO GET REAL LIFE TRAINING.

WE BROUGHT THOSE INDIVIDUALS BACK FROM THE TRAINER AND WE HAVE INCULCATED THAT IN THE CULTURE OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BY ENSURING THAT EVERY EMPLOYEE OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ATTENDED AND EMBRACES THIS QUALITY CUSTOMER SERVICE TRAINING.

IT IS NOT JUST A ONE-TIME STOP DEAL.

THIS IS A PART OF THE CULTURE OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO UNDERSTAND AND PUSH THE MESSAGE THAT WE ARE A SERVICE ORIENTED PROFILES. WE SERVE SOCIETY.

IT'S NOT US VERSUS THEM. IT IS OUR JOB TO BE GOOD STEWARDS AND SER VARNTS TO THE COMMUNITY BUT WE HAVE TO DO AWAY IN THIS PROFESSION WITH US VERSUS THEM MENTALITY.

UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE PUSHED THAT THROUGH THE CULTURE OF THE ORGANIZATION. THAT'S NOT JUST LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THAT'S DETENTION, CIVILIANS, AND EVERY EMPLOYEE OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAVE GONE TO THIS TRAINING.

UNDERSTANDING THAT FROM THE TOP DOWN THE RUDENESS-- MIGHT I ADD THAT WENT DOWN BY 50 PERCENT. A 50 PERCENT REDUCTION IN COMPLAINTS AGAINST LAW ENFORCEMENT AS A DIRECT RESULT OF THIS BEING PUSH TOWARDS THE FOLK AS THE CULTURE OF THE ORGANIZATION. FIRST IT WAS LAUGH ABLE.

WE'RE GETTING DISNEY TRAINING. IT'S CUSTOMER SERVICE TRAINING.

WE COULD HAVE SENT THEM TO SOME BUZZWORD NICE LEADERSHIP TITLED CUSTOMER SERVICE TRAINING AND NOBODY WOULD HAVE HAD A PROBLEM WITH IT. THE FACT THAT IT'S DISNEY, SOMEBODY HAS A PROBLEM WITH IT. BUT UNDERSTAND THIS.

THINK ABOUT DISNEY AND THINK ABOUT WHAT THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS SAID. THEY HAD A GREAT TIME.

YOU DIDN'T HEAR THEM SAY WE HAD A PROBLEM BECAUSE SOMEBODY WAS RUDE TO US. BECAUSE THEY DON'T TOLERATE THAT AT DISNEY. IT'S PART OF THE CULTURE OF DISNEY TO TREAT THE CUSTOMER PROFESSIONALLY.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S PART OF THE CULTURE OF THE CLAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO TREAT THE PEOPLE WE SERVE PROFESSIONALLY. SO MUCH SO THAT WE'VE BEEN INVITED TO GO TO THE NATIONAL SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION AND NOT ONLY INSTRUCT ON WHAT OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PACKAGE LOOKS LIKE, WHICH IS UNLIKE ANY SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN THE COUNTRY, BUT TO ALSO SHARE OUR QUALITY CUSTOMER SERVICE TRAINING.

CLAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS ON THE CUTTING-EDGE OF THE SOMETHING THAT'S SOMETHING NEEDED IN THIS PROFESSION AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE LEAD ON IT.

AND YOU WILL SEE IT. YOU MAY NOT BE THERE IN ATTENDANCE, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE.

THE OTHER AGENCIES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY THAT BENEFIT FROM WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW, IT WILL OUTLAST ALL OF US.

AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO SAY YOU KNOW WHAT, WE USED TO GIVE THAT GUY HELL SOMETIMES ON THE FLOOR BUT HIS HEART WAS IN THE RIGHT PLACE. THERE'S A SONG THAT SAYS, I'M JUST A SOUL WHOSE INTENTIONS ARE GOOD, OH LORD PLEASE DON'T LET ME BE MISUNDERSTOOD. AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS BUT PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THOSE INTENTIONS.

AND THEY MISREAD YOU. AND THEY FORMULATE THEIR OPINION ABOUT YOU BECAUSE THEY LOOK THROUGH THOSE LENSES.

BUT AS WE CHANGE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE PROFESSION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT ACROSS THIS COUNTRY, YOU WILL SEE IT HAPPENING.

AND IT WILL BE HAPPENING RIGHT . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANYTHING?

>> COUNCILMEMBER: I HAVE ONE CHAIRMAN.

SHERIFF LAST ONE FOR ME. I PROMISE.

EVE USELY, SOME OF THE NUMBERS HERE ARE NEW TO ME BECAUSE WE SEE CERTAIN THINGS AS WE'RE PREPARING OUR BUDGET.

BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR TRAINING BUDGET, YOU TALK ABOUT THE HATS FOR THE DEPUTIES. IS THAT UNDER LAW ENFORCEMENT? WHAT AREA WOULD THAT BE IN TERMS--

>> THE TRAINING DOLLARS? OPERATING EXPENSES.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: OKAY. SO THAT WOULD ALSO BE ANYWHERE WHERE YOU'RE REDOING CARS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE IN

OPERATING? >> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE

BRANDING? >>

>> COUNCILMEMBER: YEAH. >> THE BRANDING IS WHERE THE VEHICLE IS. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: EVEN AFTER THE FACT.

THE PAINTING AFTER THE FACT IS CONSIDERED CAPITAL? IN OTHER

WORDS, YOU-- >> YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT RETROFITTING? SO WE'RE NOT RETROFITTING VEHICLES TO THE NEW BRANDING. SO THE NEW BRANDING EXISTS

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THROUGH THE CHAIR AND WE'RE SAYING THIS IS THE BRAND OF THE CLAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. AS WE ROLL NEW VEHICLES OUT THEY WILL GET THE NEW BRANDING LOOK. AS THE OLD ONES ARE PHASED OUT YOU WILL SEE NOTHING EVENTUALLY BUT NEW ONES.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: SO WE'RE NOT REDOING OLD ONES.

>> NO THAT WOULD BE COST INEFFECTIVE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: THAT'S IT I APPRECIATE IT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION IF I COULD.

YOU SHOWED A 33 PERCENT INCREASE IN OPERATING EXPENSES OVER THE YEAR. WHY IS THAT? COULD YOU HIGHLIGHT WHAT IS IN THERE?

>> THE 33 PERCENT INCREASE? SURE.

I'LL GO BACK TO IT. TALKING ABOUT OPERATING EXPENDITURES? HOLD ON LET ME GET TO IT.

$2 MILLION CAD. >> COUNCILMEMBER: YOU HAVEN'T

SPENT THAT YET RIGHT? >> WE DON'T HAVE IT.

WE'RE ASKING FOR IT. I'M TALKING ABOUT NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: OKAY. >> DO YOU NOT HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU, COMMISSIONER? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THERE IT'S

NOT PART OF THE PACKAGE. >> COUNCILMEMBER: NO WE DIDN'T

GET IT. >> I APOLOGIZE I THOUGHT THAT

WAS PART OF YOUR PACKAGE. >> COUNCILMEMBER: WOULDN'T BE THE CAD BE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PURCHASE?

>> IT IS ONE OF OUR MAJOR PROJECT INITIATIVES.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: OKAY. >> WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY

CAPITALIZED SOFTWARE. >> COUNCILMEMBER: GOT YOU.

OKAY. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS? >> COUNCILMEMBER: NO I PROMISED

THAT WAS MY LAST ONE. >> MR. CHAIR AND IF I MAY, SHERIFF, JUST LOOKING AT-- I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE CIP AND JUST REALLY TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT.

IMPROVEMENT PLAN. CAPITAL - SO, BACK IN 2018/2019 THOSE AGREED UPON DOLLAR AMOUNTS FOR VEHICLES, THIS IS FUND 305 OF WHAT THE SHERIFF IS TALKING ABOUT, SPECIFICALLY IN THE SUBMITTED BUDGET FOR THE SHERIFF FOR FUND 305 IT'S 54 VEHICLES TOTAL. SO THAT EQUATES TO $1,717,388.

WHEN YOU DO A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THESE ARE LARGE DOLLAR EXPENDITURES THAT NEED TO BE PLANNED OUT OVER A FIVE-YEAR PLAN. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WITHIN THE BUDGET BOOK FROM OUR CURRENT YEAR THE NUMBER OF $1,326,000 WAS THE NUMBER THAT'S THERE.

SO, THERE IS A DELTA-- I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THE DELTA OF THE 300 AND I THINK IT'S-- WHAT WAS THE NUMBER? $391,388 IS, I DON'T KNOW. I WOULD GIVE A GUESS THAT IT'S TEN VEHICLES. TEN SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AT $37,797 EQUALS $377,973. SO, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, VISIBILITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE ABOUT. SO IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THAT DELTA OF ABOUT TEN VEHICLES, SHERIFF, IF YOU WOULD ADDRESS FOR THE BOARD SO THEY UNDERSTAND WHY YOU NEED TEN MORE VEHICLES THAN WHAT WAS PLANNED IN THE CAPITAL.

>> I WOULD SAY THROUGH THE CHAIR, THAT IS ALSO AN AREA WE'RE FLEXIBLE IN. I ALWAYS ASK WHEN BUILDING THESE BUDGETS IN A PERFECT STATE YEAH WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REPLACE THEM EVERY, YOU KNOW, INCREMENTAL FIVE YEARS OR WHATEVER.

BUT I ASKED THE QUESTION WHEN WE LOOK AT MILEAGE AND THE MAINTENANCE COSTS, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO PUSH THIS ONE TO ANOTHER YEAR. CAN WE USE IT FOR ANOTHER YEAR? IF THE MAINTENANCE COSTS DON'T OUTWEIGH-- IN OTHER WORDS, IF IT'S NOT A BEATER, WE KEEP IT. JUST BECAUSE WE HIT THE FIVE YEAR MARK DOESN'T MEAN IT'S TIME TO GET NEW VEHICLES.

AND THAT WAS PART OF THE CHANGE THAT I HAD TO MAKE COMING IN AS A SHERIFF BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE WE WERE SO REG MEANTED AT THE FIVE YEAR MARK LET'S GET NEW VEHICLES.

AT THE FIVE YEAR MARK LET'S GET NEW VEHICLES.

I'M LIKE JUST BECAUSE A VEHICLE IS FIVE YEARS OLD IT DOESN'T MEAN IT HAS TO BE REPLACED. WHAT IF THE FIVE YEAR VEHICLE WAS A DETECTIVES VEHICLE. DETECTIVES VEHICLES DON'T RUN AS HARD AS THE PATROL VEHICLES. SO, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT. AN SRO AND I KNOW THAT MIGHT BE A SORE SPOT BUT THE FORMER SROS THEY DIDN'T PUSH THEIR VEHICLES AS HARD SO THERE WASN'T A NEED TO REPLACE THEM EVERY FIVE YEARS. MY POINT BEING, THAT'S A PLACE THAT WE'RE FLEXIBLE ALSO. I TOLD THE COUNTY MANAGER THAT

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AND WE HAD CONVERSATIONS AND WE INTEND TO HAVE FUTURE CONVERSATIONS TO MEET IN A PLACE WHERE IT'S COMFORTABLE BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ALL ARE IN A BAD POSITION.

PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. I UNDERSTAND IT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: THROUGH THE CHAIR, I'LL MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT BECAUSE I THINK I'M SENIOR ON THE BOARD.

I'VE BEEN HERE THE LONGEST. BEFORE YOU CAME, IT WAS THREE YEARS AND IT DIDN'T EVEN QUALIFY FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT IT CAME FROM THE GENERAL FUND WHICH YOU UNDERSTAND THAT'S REALLY STRENUOUS ON US TO HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. THAT'S ONE DIFFERENCE THAT YOU HAVE MADE SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE AND I BELIEVE I ASKED YOU ABOUT THAT AND I APPRECIATE YOU BEING RESPECTFUL AND HELPING US.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> COUNCILMEMBER:.

>> THE OTHER WOULD BE JUST ON FLEXIBILITY.

I KNOW JAMES IS RIGHT BEHIND YOU, SHERIFF, AND HE HAD BRIEFED ON THE FACILITY SIDE FOR THE JAIL WHICH IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN SAFETY AND SECURITY ACROSS THE BOARD FOR A LIFE, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE IN THE JAIL WHEN IT COMES TO AIR CONDITIONING, HVAC SYSTEMS AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, IF WE COULD JUST WORK WITH THAT AND THOSE ABSOLUTE NEEDS FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN GET TO A COMMON GROUND ON THAT AND IF SOMETHING COULD BE DELAYED.

THAT WAS THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE ON THAT.

THANK YOU. >> AND THROUGH THE CHAIR AND FOR THE SAKE OF THE FOLKS WATCHING IN A CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER THERE ARE WHEN IT COMES TO THESE FACILITY NEEDS AND WANTS, THERE ARE WANTS ON THERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM FOR ME TO STRIKE THROUGH THEM BECAUSE EVENTUALLY WE'LL GET TO THOSE WHEN THEY TURN INTO NEEDS. BUT WE'RE IN A TIME WHERE WE NEED THE NEEDS TAKEN CARE OF. AND THIS IS MAYBE NOT A GOOD TIME FOR WANTS. I HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO WORK WITH THE MAN AND TO WORK WITH YOU ALL TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE FOR THE COUNTY FOR THE SAKE OF THE GREATER GOOD.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT. >> COUNCILMEMBER: OKAY.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU, SHERIFF. APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU ALL. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: ANY OTHER INFORMATION WE NEED TO ADD TO ITEM 7?

>> THAT WOULD BE FOR THE BCC. IF I MAY MR. CHAIR TALK ABOUT OUR OWN BUDGET. AND BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER TOO. TROY, WOULD YOU MIND BRINGING UP THAT SLIDE. IT SHOULD BE THIS SLIDE HERE.

YOU CAN START WITH THAT ONE AND WHILE I'M A TALKING ABOUT THAT ONE BRING UP THIS ONE. THE BUDGET FROM FINANCE AND AUDIT. SO IF YOU CAN MAXIMIZE THAT ONE.

SO I THINK WHAT'S VERY IMPORTANT HERE ARE REVENUES AND THE BOTTOM LINE. ON JULY 1ST FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS OFFICE WE RECEIVED A NOTIFICATION THAT OVERALL FOR ALL OF THE PARCELS OVER THE 90,000 PARCELS WITHIN THE COUNTY THE INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES IS APPROXIMATELY 7.5 PERCENT.

IF YOU MAINTAIN THE SAME MILLAGE RATE OF 8.101 THAT EQUATES TO $6.5 MILLION INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR.

BY FLORIDA STATE STATUTES WE CANNOT SPEND ALL OF THAT MONEY.

WE HAVE TO PUT FIVE PERCENT OF THAT ASIDE.

SO, 95 PERCENT OF IT, APPROXIMATELY $6 MILLION, WOULD BE AVAILABILITY. SO THAT'S ONE REVENUE STREAM OUT OF MANY. AND I PUT THE OTHER REVENUE STREAMS UP HERE SO THAT YOU ALL CAN SEE.

SO, WITH COVID-19 THE STRUGGLE THAT WE'VE HAD IS IF YOU REMEMBER IN MARCH WE WERE CLOSED FOR BASICALLY HALF A MONTH OR APPROXIMATELY. IN APRIL WE WERE REALLY SHUT DOWN. SO WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND IN MAY 2020 IN THE COLUMN P THAT WE HAVE HERE, A $4,679,000, THAT REFLECTS MARCH'S NUMBERS. THAT'S WHAT IS THE FIRST THING.

IT'S ALWAYS TWO MONTHS AND BEHIND.

MIKE PRICE WOULD ALWAYS TELL YOU ABOUT THIS.

EVERYTHING IS DELAYED IN THIS SO HERE'S THE DELAY.

SO, MAY 20TH HERE SHOWS YOU THE NUMBER.

WHAT CAN WE HAVE TO COMPARE THIS TO BUT HISTORICALLY WHAT DID WE HAVE IN THE YEARS PRIOR. MAY '19 IS THERE AND MAY '18.

THE EXACT DELTA WOULD BE AND OUR SHORTFALL IN THIS REVENUE STREAM IS $169,661. REMEMBER THAT WAS FROM MARCH.

ABOUT HALFWAY CLOSED. NOW YOU GO TO JUNE 2020.

YOU CAN DEFINITELY SEE A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MAY AND JUNE BUT YOU NEED TO COMPARE JUNE OVER JUNE OVER THE YEARS PRIOR.

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SO, YOU CAN SEE A SIGNIFICANT DROP THERE IN JUST ONE MONTH.

$3,235,000 AS COMPARED TO JUNE 19, 3,792,000.

THIS EQUATES TO A SHORTFALL OF $557,328.

YOU CAN SEE AS WE WERE COMPLETELY SHUTDOWN FOR COVID, WHERE WE STOOD FOR THESE OTHER REVENUE STREAMS. I.E., THAT'S GAS TAX, SALES TAX, SURTAX, ALL OF THESE TAXES TOGETHER THAT COME INTO PLAY. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, WE WONT AND OLGA JUST TOLD ME THIS MORNING, WE WILL NOT KNOW WHERE WE STAND FOR MAY UNTIL ABOUT THE WEEK OF JULY 20TH-24TH.

SO I WILL HAVE A BETTER NUMBER THEN OF WHAT TO PREDICT.

IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE SHORTFALLS AND I'VE ROUNDED THEM $200,000 BASICALLY SHORTFUL OF $600,000 YOU CAN KIND OF SEE.

BUT MAYBE AS WE GO INTO THE NEW FISCAL YEAR THAT WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE A $500,000 SHORTFALL EACH MONTH.

LET ME POINT OUT SOMETHING WE REALLY HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO CARES ACT. THE ECONOMY HAS BEEN FALSELY PROPPED UP WITH PPP IN ALL THE GRANTS OUT THERE.

IF YOU REMEMBER MORTGAGE FORGIVENESS, RENT FORGIVENESS, ALL OF THESE THINGS, EVEN UNEMPLOYMENT WAS BOOSTED ACROSS THE BOARD. SO, WE'RE REALLY IN A LOT OF UNKNOWN TIMES. EXPOTENTIAL KNOWNIALLY UNKNOWN AHEAD OF WHAT WE CAN EXPECT. SO, LOOKING AT THIS, I THINK $500,000 SHORTFALL, IT MAY BE NOT CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH.

BUT THAT MULTIPLIED OUT FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR BASICALLY OFF-SETS THE GAIN AD VALOREM AND MAKES IT A FLAT GAIN IN REVENUE ACROSS THE BOARD. SO, WHEN WE WENT INTO THE BUDGET, I ASKED THE CONSTITUTIONALS TO REALLY TRY TO KEEP IT FLAT. I ALSO ASK THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, PLEASE KEEP THE BUDGET FLAT YEAR OVER YEAR AND AS BEST WE COULD.

SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE ON THE REVENUE SIDE THAT YOU ALL SEE THIS AND THAT WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA ON THE 20-24TH OF JULY WHEN THE NUMBERS COME OUT AND THAT IT'S NOT UNTIL MID-AUGUST I BELIEVE OF WHEN THEY GIVE THE PREDICTION AND WHAT REALLY THE CPAS THAT ARE REALLY SMART IN TALLAHASSEE PREDICT WHAT THE REVENUE STREAMS I'LL ADD ONE FINAL THING.

IN OUR SALES SURTAX THAT SHARED WITH THE STATE, REMEMBER WE WERE GETTING 95 PERCENT. WE'RE EDGE ON GETTING 50 PERCENT OF THOSE MONEYS. THEY TELL US IN AUGUST/SEPTEMBER IT WILL BE TRIED UP AND I'LL HAVE MORE NUMBERS TO GIVE YOU ALL. SO, CONSERVATIVELY WE WENT INTO THE BUDGET LOOKING AT THAT. THE NEXT THING I ASKED WORKING WITH OLGA ON THIS WAS TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR BEST PRACTICES WHEN IT COMES TO BOTH A CONTINGENCY THAT WE HAVE, THE BEST PRACTICE IS FIVE TO TEN PERCENT WITHIN OUR BUDGET.

SO, WHEN I HAVE THE POCOS AND I'LL BRING THOSE TO YOU ALL, THAT'S WHAT THE CONTINGENCY SHOULD HAVE, FIVE TO TEN PERCENT. AT A MINIMUM FIVE PERCENT.

THEN CRASH BALANCE FORWARD TYPICALLY BEST PRACTICE IS 15-20 PERCENT. THAT IS IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN MIKE PRICE WOULD STAND UP HE WOULD SAY I NEED TO HAVE 20 PERCENT THERE TO TAKE CARE OF THE FIRST TWO MONTHS OF THE NEW FISCAL YEAR. SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE BEST PRACTICES, HABITS FOR SUCCESS AND THAT.

FINALLY, THE THIRD THING TO TALK ABOUT WOULD BE REQUIREMENTS AND NEEDS VERSUS WANTS AND DESIRES WHEN IT COMES TO THIS UPCOMING BUDGET YEAR. SO, LOOKING AT THAT, I WANTED TO BRIEF YOU ALL ON THE BCC'S BUDGET.

SO, EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN BRIEFED TODAY IS IN HERE.

I'LL ADD ON THE SHERIFF'S LINE AND OLGA AND I WERE JUST TALKING BRIEFLY, THE DELTA BETWEEN THE $67,760,000 AND THE NUMBER THAT THE SHERIFF GAVE WHICH WAS $69,753,000, IT'S ABOUT A $2 MILLION DIFFERENCE. THERE ARE FIVE FUNDS THAT ARE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS. FIVE OF THEM.

FOUR OUT OF THE FIVE ARE REALLY LOW.

THOSE ARE-- AND I'LL READ THEM OFF SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS IN THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS. ONE IS THE BCC CRIME PREVENTION PROGRAM FUND. 136.

THE BCC SECOND SHERIFF EDUCATION FUND, 112.

IT'S THE BCC INVESTIGATIVE DRUG FUND, 114.

IT'S THE BCC LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND, 107.

AND FINALLY THE BIG MUSCLE MOVER AS I LIKE TO SAY, THE BCC CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FUND, 305.

IF YOU ADD ALL THAT TOGETHER IT ALMOST MAKES IT TO THE $2 MILLION MARK THAT'S THERE. SO THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT'S MISSING OUT OF THERE. BASICALLY THE CIP PORTION IN

THOSE VEHICLES. >> COUNCILMEMBER: SO THOSE NUMBERS MAKE UP THE SPECIAL REVENUE?

>> YES, SIR. THOSE FUNDS MAKE UP THE CCSO

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SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS >> COUNCILMEMBER: WHICH IN THIS

CASE IS 1.99. >> YES, SIR.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: SO THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T INCLUDE IT AS PART OF

THE FULL BUDGET? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

YES, SIR. REMEMBER THE DELTA-- NORMALLY THERE ISN'T A DELTA BECAUSE IT IS A FIVE-YEAR PLAN AND YOU EXECUTE THE PLAN. LAST YEAR WE DID MODIFY THE CIP FOR THE SHERIFF'S REQUEST. THIS YEAR HE IS ASKING FOR ANOTHER ONE THE $300,000 DIFFERENCE THAT HE BRIEFED.

$391,388. EQUATES TO APPROXIMATELY TEN

VEHICLES WOULD BE MY BEST GUESS. >> COUNCILMEMBER: SO THE ASK THERE IS ACTUALLY $9 MILLION MORE THAN-- LAST YEAR'S $61,559,000 BE ENHANCED YES THE 61 ON THIS SLIDE IS ALSO JUST

THE OPERATIONAL AND PERSONNEL. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: DO WE REMEMBER WHAT THAT WAS?

>> $1.9 MILLION. I ALREADY LOOKED IT UP.

THERE WAS A DELTA. DID YOU FIND OUT WHAT THE DELTA WAS, OLGA? THERE IS A DELTA.

I DON'T HAVE THAT WITH ME RIGHT NOW.

BUT I CAN BRIEF THE BOARD AT A LATER TIME.

I SEEM TO REMEMBER THAT MAYBE IT WAS 300,000 TO $500,000 MORE IN

ADDITION. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I GOT YOU.

>> THAT'S AN ESTIMATE. BUT THERE WAS A DELTA WITHIN CIP

THERE. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I GUESS THE REASON I ASK IS HE THREW THAT FIRST SLIDE UP AND INCLUDED IT.

SO, AS WE WERE SITTING WITH A 67 NUMBER, OBVIOUSLY THAT 69 NUMBER IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. SO IT'S CONFUSING.

BUT I UNDERSTAND WERE WE'RE GOING WITH IT NOW.

>> OKAY. AND SO THOSE ARE THE SUMMARIES.

IF WE GO DOWN TO THE LAST LINE. FOR THE BOCC.

SO THIS CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET IS $129.4 MILLION.

LOOKING FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET TO BE $132.7 MILLION.

SO THAT IS A DIFFERENCE OF $3,253,067 APPROXIMATELY 2.7 PERCENT INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR. THE SPECIFIC DETAILS OF THAT.

AGAIN, APPROXIMATELY $2 MILLION OF THAT IS WORKDAY.

IT'S AN ERP. IT IS A SOFTWARE WE'VE BEEN LOOKING INTO. AND TROY AND THE STAFF HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS AND MAKES US MORE EFFICIENT.

AND WE COULD OBVIOUSLY PUT THAT OFF.

I JUST HAD THAT IN THERE. THE OTHER COSTS ARE BOTH OPERATIONAL AND PERSONNEL COSTS. AND THE PERSONNEL, AGAIN, FRS WENT UP AND OUR CONTRIBUTIONS ON THAT.

WE ALSO HAVE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS AND PROJECTS THAT ARE ALL IN THOSE NUMBERS. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE ACROSS THE BOARD I THINK THE STAFF DID A WONDERFUL JOB, ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, TO REALLY TRY TO KEEP IT AS FLAT AS POSSIBLE.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I KNOW THE SHERIFF ASKED ME WERE DOLLAR AMOUNTS. AND I ONLY GOT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT RECENTLY FROM OLGA. IT'S NOT EASY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE MILLAGE RATE.

YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THESE REVENUE STREAMS AND THAT.

AND SHE IS WORKING ON BALANCING THE BUDGET FOR THE NEXT BCC.

SO, WE'LL BE COMING TO YOU ALL TO TALK ABOUT MAX MILLAGE.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET. AND SHE'LL HAVE THE BUDGET BOOK FOR YOU AT THE NEXT BCC. BUT IF THE SHERIFF WENT UP, SAY, ONE PERCENT THAT WOULD EQUATE TO $634,554.

IF HE INCREASED TWO PERCENT YEAR OVER YEAR IT WOULD BE $1,269,108. THOSE ARE NUMBERS THAT ARE OPERATIONAL. THEY DON'T INCLUDE THE CIP OR SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS. HE TOLD YOU THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL INCREASE IN THERE OF $300,000.

SO THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO BRIEF THERE ACROSS THE BOARD.

FINALLY, ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISER.

I TALKED TO ROGER. HE WAS REALLY UNDER THE WEATHER AND COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY. HE WANTED TO BE HERE.

HE ASKED IF HE COULD COME TO THE NEXT BCC AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. BUT YOU ALL CAN SEE THAT HIS BUDGET, IT'S NET EVEN ACROSS THE BOARD.

SO I LET HIM KNOW THAT I'D LET YOU ALL KNOW ON THAT AND IF IT'S OKAY HE WILL COME TO THE NEXT BOARD.

THAT'S ALL I HAD FOR ITEM NUMBER 7 AND PENDING ANY QUESTIONS FOR

ME. >> COUNCILMEMBER: NOT AS MUCH A QUESTION AS STATEMENT. I DON'T SEE ANY SCENARIO IN WHICH I WOULD VOTE TO DO ANYTHING ABOVE THE 8.1 MILLAGE CURRENTLY SO I'LL STATE THAT ON RECORD.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THE REST OF THE COMMISSION FEELS BUT I WANTED TO STATE THAT SO IT'S EASY. I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR ANY KIND OF MILLAGE INCREASE. SO WE HAVE TO MAKE THE BUDGET WORK WITH THE NUMBERS WE HAVE AS FAR AS MY VOTE GOES.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: AND I WOULD SECOND COMMISSION ROLLINS VOTE

ON THAT ALSO. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I THINK WE ALL FEEL THAT WAY. WITH THE LACK OF REVENUE I THINK RATHER THAN PUT IT ON THE BACKS OF THE TAXPAYERS WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO TIGHTEN OUR BELTS AND HOPE IT IS A BLIP AND WE CAN

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RECOVER IN ANY PROJECTS WE PUT OFF TILL NEXT YEAR OR THE YEAR AFTER WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACCELERATE IF WE HAVE THE REVENUE. BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO SEE HOW IT ALL COMES TOGETHER AND THEN MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WANTS AND NEEDS ARE OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND WHERE WE NEED TO STEP UP IN TERMS OF WHETHER IT'S JAIL MAINTENANCE OR WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO ACCEPT SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN ANOTHER LIKE ITEM.

PERHAPS WE DON'T GET WALT DISNEY TRAINING NEXT YEAR.

[LAUGHTER] >> COUNCILMEMBER: AND PARAMEDIC CAN ADMINISTER MEDICINE. SO I DO THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME FLEXIBILITY AND TWEAKING ON THAT TO GET THE HEALTHCARE

REQUIRED BUT ALSO. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: WE'RE DONE

WITH ITEM 7. >> THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT WOULD BE THE CARES ACT FUNDING DEFINITELY HELPS OUT OUR LOCAL EONOMY TOO. I DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO FORGET THAT TOO. AND TROY AT THE END-- TROY'S ITEM IS THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

I THINK YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR SOME REALLY GOOD THINGS FROM TROY. HE GAVE YOU ALL A BRIEF SHEET ON THIS AND THE WAY AHEAD. HE IS WORKING AS FAST AS HE CAN TO ENSURE THESE MONEYS ARE EXPENDED BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

AND IT REALLY IS A BOOST TO OUR ECONOMY HERE SO THAT WE CAN RIDE OUT THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS. THANK YOU.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: ARE WE DONE WITH THAT? OKAY. AND I'M GOING TO ASK THE NEXT ITEMS UP TO TROY'S WHICH IS 14 WE MOVE THROUGH THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. BUT CERTAINLY COVERING ALL THE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS. SO, LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 8 SECOND

[8. Second Amendment to Agreement #2014/15-155 with Push Media, LLC-Bus Bench Siting]

AMENDMENT TO AGREEMENT FOR THE PUSHED ME YEAH LLC BUS BENCH SITTING. CHARICE? I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY BUS BENCHES IN CLAY HILL.

WHAT'S GOING ON [LAUGHTER]

>> HOW ARE YOU ALL DOING THIS AFTERNOON?

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: GOOD. >> OKAY.

SO WE ARE UP HERE FOR ITEM NMBER 8.

I DO HAVE PATRICK AND JOSH HERE AS WELL FROM PUSHED ME YEAH.

ESSENTIALLY WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU AND WHAT WAS PRESENTED AT LAST WEEK'S FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING IS THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING AGREEMENT.

AND WE ARE BRINGING THIS TO YOU FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT REASONS. ONE IS THE PROPOSAL TO ADD TEN NEW STOPS AND THE OTHER IS THE PROPOSAL TO ADD 36 ADDITIONAL STOPS THAT WERE OFF THE OLD LIST.

SO, IN THE PAST I THINK THERE WERE 68 AND THESE GUYS CAN CORRECT ME. I THINK THERE WERE 68 STOPS.

32 WHICH ARE CURRENTLY IN USE AND 36 WHICH ARE NOT.

OF THOSE 36 NEEDED WAS SOME SIGNAGE WHICH IS PROBABLY PART OF THE REASON THEY WEREN'T ON JTA'S STOP LIST WHEN THEY FIRST TOOK OVER AND WE STARTED THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM.

THE SECOND REASON WE'RE BRINGING IT TO YOU IS TO AMEND THE PAYMENT SECTION OF THIS AGREEMENT.

THE PAYMENT SECTION FOR THE AGREEMENT WHEN IT WAS WITH THE COUNCIL ON AGING WAS ALY PAYMENT ARRANGEMENT AND WE WANT TO GO TO A QUARTERLY ARRANGEMENT. AND I THINK PUSHED ME YEAH HAS MADE A PARTIAL PAYMENT TO CATCH UP THOSE PAYMENTS OWED TO US AND I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT SOME OF THAT PAYMENT TODAY. SO THAT'S THE REASONS WE'RE HERE. AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO ASK THESE GUYS TO COME UP TOO.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: WHAT'S THE AMOUNT OF THE PAYMENTS.

JUST REFRESH US ON THAT. >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN? AMOUNT OF PAYMENTS THEY OWE US? I THINK THE LAST EMAIL I SAW WAS

4,500 AND CHANGE. >> I THINK TO FINISH UP AND PATRICK CAN PROBABLY CLARIFY BUT TO FINISH UP FOR 2019 PAYMENT WAS AROUND 4,500 AND THEN TO CATCH UP FOR 2020 TO DATE OR ACTUALLY JUST UNTIL JUNE I BELIEVE WAS ABOUT THE SAME.

ABOUT 45 TO $4,600. >> COUNCILMEMBER: CAN YOU DEFINE

A STOP? >> SPEAKER: SO I KNOW THAT QUESTION WAS BEING ASKED. THE DEFINITION OF A BUS BENCH IS NOT ININCLUDED IN OUR AGREEMENT IF I AM SAYING THAT CORRECTLY.

I KNOW IT WAS IN THE CC COUNCIL ON AGING'S AGREEMENT.

I KNOW THAT THE FLORIDA STATUTE DOES GIVE YOU THE DEFINITION.

AND IF YOU WILL GIVE ME JUST A SECOND.

>> YOU WANT THE DEFINITION FOR ACTUALLY-- I MEAN, A STOP FOR JTA PURPOSES AND UNDER A GRANT WOULD BE WHERE ON THEIR ROUTE IT ACTUALLY STOPS. WHICH IS A DIFFERENT DEFINITION OR MEANING THAN A BUS BENCH OR A CONVENIENCE BENCH OR CONVENIENCE

COMFORT BENCH. >> COUNCILMEMBER: WELL THE CONTRACT SAYS BUS STOPS. WE'VE REDISTRIBUTED THE BUS SYSTEM SEVERAL TIMES NOW. I'M TRYING TO GET A HANDLE ON

IT. >> SPEAKER: HERE'S PART OF THE FLORIDA STATUTE. PART OF THAT STATUTE SAYS ESSENTIALLY... IT'S 337.408. IT PROVIDES-- BUS STOPS AND

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BENCHES. IT PROVIDES THAT BENCHES AND TRANSIT SHELTERS INCLUDING ADVERTISING DISPLAYED MAY BE INSTALL WITHIN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY LIMITS OF ANY MUNICIPALITY, COUNTY OR STATE ROAD EXCEPT ON LIMITED ACCESS PROVIDED THAT BUS BENCHES OR TRANSIT SHELTERS ARE FOR COMFORT OR CONVENIENCE OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC OR ARE IS DEIG NATED STOPS ON OFFICIAL BUS ROUTES. AND PROVIDED THAT WRITTEN AUTHORITY-- BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. THAT'S PART OF THE STATUTE.

THEN THERE'S PART OF THE FLORIDA ADMINISTRATIVE CODE THAT HAS

DEFINITION WITHIN IT. >> COUNCILMEMBER: SO IT'S ANYWHERE THERE'S A PERSON THAT WANTS TO SIT DOWN ESSENTIALLY?

>> PER THE STATUTE DEFINITION YES, SIR.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: THAT'S WHAT OUR CONTRACT UNDERSTANDS IT TO

BE? >> WELL, NO.

I THINK THAT-- AND MAYBE I'M GETTING CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE MEANING ABOUT THE ACTUAL BUS STOPS.

SO, YOU CAN AGREE, I MEAN, YOU CAN AS PART OF YOUR AGREEMENT AGREE THEY CAN INSTALL WHAT YOU WOULD CALL BUS BENCHES OR COMFORT AND CONVENIENCE BENCHES AT ANY DESIGNATED BUS STOPS ON THE ROUTE. I MEAN, YOU WOULD BE CREATE EDGE THOSE STOPS AND A CONNECTION WITH JTA.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: JTA HAS GIVEN US NAME OF THE PLACE THEY WERE STOPPING. JTA HAS PUBLISHED A NUMBER OF PLACES THEIR STANDARD BUS ROUTE WILL STOP? AND THAT IS THESE MAGENTA LINE AND--

>> THE BLUE AND THE RED LINES. >> COUNCILMEMBER: LIKE THREE RI?

THERE IS >> COUNCILMEMBER: AND THEY'VE GOT A PUBLISHED ROUTE THAT SHOWS WHERE THE BUS IS SCHEDULED TO STOP. IN MY MIND THAT'S A BUS STOP.

>> RIGHT. AND THEN YOU CAN ADD TO THOSE WHICH IS WHAT THEY'RE ASKING TO DO.

ADD TO THOSE STOPS. >> COUNCILMEMBER: SO JTA IS ALREADY STOPPING AT WHATEVER PREARRANGED NUMBER AND THOSE BENCHES ARE COORDINATED, OVERLAID WITH WHERE THEY STOP.

SO, THEY'RE BOTH THE SAME AT THIS POINT.

>> FOR APPROXIMATELY 38. THEN YOU HAVE A PRE-APPROVED OTHER GROUP OF 38 THAT THEY CURRENTLY ARE NOT STOPPING BUT WHICH PUSHED ME YEAH IS REQUESTING THE BENCHES ARE ALREADY THERE BUT THEY'RE REQUESTING TO PUT THE SIGN UP AND ASK JTA TO STOP AND THEN THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL TEN THEY'RE ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO NOT ONLY PUT THE BENCH BUT THE STOPS, I MEAN, THE BUS STOPS.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: SO IT'S REALLY UP TO JTA TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION IF THEY'RE WILLING TO STOP AT THOSE LOCATIONS OR DO WE PAY THEM EXTRA 72 TOP AT THOSE LOCATIONS?

>> MY UNDERSTANDING AND I THINK SHARICE CAN BACK ME UP.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS AS LONG AS OUR GRANT, WHICH THE CURRENT GRANT THROUGH 2020, AS LONG AS THE CURRENT GRANT WILL COVER THOSE STOPS, THEN THEY WOULD STOP THERE.

WHEN THAT GRANT IS RENEWED, IF IT DOES NOT COVER ALL OF THOSE STOPS, THEN FOR THEM TO STOP TERE THEY WOULD LOOK TO YOU FOR THAT. .

>> SO THAT'S THE LETTER WE GOT FROM JTA YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.

IF YOU WILL READ IT SAYS 36 OR MORE.

I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH PETER THIS AFTERNOON WHICH IS THE GENTLEMAN WHO WROTE THAT LETTER. ESSENTIALLY, AND COURTNEY EXPLAINED IT TO SOME EXTENT. AS LONG AS 100 PERCENT OF THE D.O.T. GRANT COVERS IT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NO COST.

IF AT SOME POINT AND TIME OUR GRANT OR ARRANGEMENT WITH THEM CHANGES, THERE'S GOING TO BE A COST.

FOR ALL OF THE STOPS. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED IF AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS.

SO, TO ADD THESE STOPS CURRENTLY THERE IS A NO COST.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: ARE WE WITHIN THE GRANT NOW?

>> YES, SIR, WE ARE. >> COUNCILMEMBER: HOW MUCH ROOM

DO WE HAVE ON THAT? >> THEY SAID AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, SHARICE. PETE IS THE COMPTROLLER FOR! JTA. HE SAID IT'S ALWAYS COVERED 100 PERCENT. SO, GOING INTO THE GRANT YEAR FOR NEXT YEAR WHICH ENDS SEPTEMBER 2020 WE SHOULD BE COVERED. IT WOULD BE IF THERE WOULD BE A 50/50 SPLIT. BUT THE MONEYS THAT WE HAVE PAID FOR MOVING FORWARD. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WE HAD A LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT ADDING THE STOPS.

BECAUSE WE HAD THE ORIGINAL LIST, THE ORIGINAL LIST WAS FROM COUNCIL ON AGING AND WHERE THEY STOPPED WITH THE BUSES.

WHEN JTA TOOK OVER THEY DIDN'T HAVE STOPS AT 36 OF THESE STOPS.

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OKAY. SO THE BENCHES WERE THERE.

WE WORKED WITH PATRICK AND JOSH ON THIS TO DETERMINE AND I ASKED JOSH SPECIFICALLY TO WORK WITH JTA TO ENSURE THOSE STOPS.

THEY DIDN'T MIND STOPPING THERE. REMEMBER THE BUS DOESN'T STOP UNLESS SOMEBODY NEEDS TO STOP THERE OR SOMEBODY'S WAITING TO PICK UP A BUS THAT'S THERE. WE HAD A LONG DISCUSSION, SHARICE AND I DID, ABOUT ADDITIONAL COSTS TO THIS.

BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAVE THE DRIVER.

YOU ALREADY HAVE THE BUS. IT'S ALREADY MOVING.

THE FACTOR HERE IS TIME. AND HOW QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN COMPLETE THE ROUTE. RIGHT NOW DURING COVID AND I THINK I BRIEFED LAST TIME, RIDERSHIP IS DOWN 66 PERCENT.

SO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS AND PER THE GRANT AND WHEN THEY PAY US THROUGH THE GRANT, JTA REPRESENTS US ON THIS GRANT, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT MIKE PRICE WORKED WITH SHARICE AND I AND LAUREN ON ALL THE TIME WAS TO ENSURE THIS WAS COVERED 100 PERCENT. IT GOES BY RIDERSHIP RIGHT.

IS THE OTHER IMPORTANT THING TO UNDERSTAND.

RED AND BLUE LINE COVER THE ORANGE PARK MALL AREA AND THAT CENTRAL AND NORTHERN PART. REMEMBER MAGENTA COVERS DOWN TO KEYSTONE. SO THOSE ARE A COUPLE THINGS TO ADD TO SOME OF OUR DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD FOR THE BENCHES.

>> IF IT'S OKAY YOU GUYS NOW I'D LIKE TO ASK THESE GUYS COME UP AND THEY CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION OR ALSO ANSWER IF QUESTIONS. PATRICK AND JOSH.

>> SPEAKER: GOOD EVENING, JOSH HERE REPRESENTING PUSHED ME YEAH. LIKE OUR PREVIOUS PRESENTERS WE'RE NOT HERE TO ASK FOR MONEY. WE ARE HERE TO GIVE YOU A CHECK TODAY. BUT WE'VE HAD A GREAT PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU.

THE COUNCIL ON AGING PREVIOUS YOULY AND NOW JTA PROVIDING THESE BENCHES. JTA DOES NOT HAVE CAPITAL DOLLARS TO SPEND ON INSTALLING AND MAINTAINING THESE BENCHES OR EVEN PUTTING IN NEW BUS STOP SIGNS AT THE BENCHES THAT DO NOT HAVE SIGNS. WE HAVE TAKE ON THE TASK AND ROLE TO MAKE SURE ALL THESE STOPS DO HAVE SIGNS.

ORIGINALLY BACK IN 2014/15 WE CAME TO YOU WITH 32 STOPS ROUGHLY. 25.

WE CHANGED THE SIGN CODE TO ALLOW FOR LOCAL BUSINESS SPONSORSHIP ON EACH OF THESE STOPS PERCENTAGE OF THE REVENUE 15 PERCENT WOULD BE SHARED BACK WITH THE COUNCIL ON AGING.

WE CAME BACK A SECOND TIME AND ADDED ADDITIONAL 45 STOPS AT THAT TIME WHICH YOU THE COMMISSION APPROVED EXCEPT FOR ONE. AND WE HAVE SINCE PUT IN THOSE BENCHES, MAINTAINED THEM AND SUCH AS WELLBEING SPONSORED BY LOCAL BUSINESSES AND SHARING THE REVENUE.

MR. MITZY HAS PAID MONEY FOR 2019'S REVENUE COST SHARE AS WELL AS A CHECK TODAY TO PRESENT FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE 2019 COST SHARE. THESE BENCHES ARE APPEALING.

JTA IS PROUD OF THEM AND LOVE TO HAVE THEM IN JACKSONVILLE BUT I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING ANY TIME SOON.

BUT OVERALL THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WE'VE HAD WITH YOU. AND ONE THAT AGAIN DOESN'T COST YOU ANY MONEY. AGAIN I KNOW IF A GRANT CHANGES IN THE FUTURE WE CAN REVISIT THIS CONVERSATION BUT, STOPS, THESE 36 THAT ARE ONAL - MENTIONED, AGAIN THESE ARE ALREADY INSTALLED. THESE BENCHES COST ABOUT $3,000 ALL IN WITH BETWEEN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT COSTS UP FRONT AS WELL AS THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE. WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION IN THE PAST WHEN WE CAME BEFORE YOU AND YOU ASKED WHY DOESN'T THE COUNTY DO THIS. YOU SEE YOUR BUDGET TODAY I DON'T THINK YOU WILL HAVE MONEY IN THE FUTURE.

HERE WE ARE PAYING FOR THESE FOR YOUR CITIZENS THAT CAN'T AFFORD THEIR OWN PERSONAL TRANSPORTATION AND OUR SENIORS TO ADEQUATELY GET FROM THEIR APPOINTMENTS AND SO FORTH.

SO, THESE 36 OR SO DID NOT HAVE BUS STOP SIGNS INSTALLED.

WHEN COUNCIL ON AGING WENT UNDER AND YOU HAD JTA TAKE OVER PATRICK WAS STILL IN THE PROCESS OF INSTALLING THESE BUS STOP SIGNS PER HIS AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNCIL ON AGING.

THROUGH THE COUNTY MANAGER CHANGE AND SO FORTH THIS GOT LOST IN CONVERSATION AND WE COORDINATED WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER BACK IN LATE SUMMER ROUGHLY TO HAVE DISCUSSION ON THOSE 36. AS WELL AS WITH JTA WHO ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THESE STOPS. WE'RE COMING BEFORE YOU TOO IN ADDITION OF TEN NEW STOPS AS WELL TWO OF THESE WHICH WILL BE PLACED IN FRONT OF THE NEW V.A. CLINIC FOR FOLKS WHO RELY ON THOSE SERVICES AND SEVERAL OTHERS ALONG BLANDING BOULEVARD WHICH WILL FILL GAPS SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CITIZENS WALKING LONGER DISTANCES BETWEEN STOPS.

THE RIDERSHIP IS BASED-- JTA IS NO THE GOING TO STOP AT EVERY STOP. THEY'LL STOP BASICALLY IF THERE'S AN INDIVIDUAL THERE LOOKING TO RIDE THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW AS A COUNTY I THINK ADEQUATE TRANSPORTATION IS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT. HOPEFULLY REDUCE OUR TRAFFIC FROM THE OUT MIGRATION OF VEHICLES THAT WE SEE DAILY LEAVE

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TO GO TO WORK ELSEWHERE AND HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT JTA WILL CONTINUE TO SPONSOR IN THE FUTURE AS THE

COUNTY DOES GROW. >> COUNCILMEMBER: WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH COUNCIL ON AGING I WAS TOLD THEY HADN'T BEEN PAID IN QUITE A WHILE.

I ATTEMPTED TO GET AN AUDIT OF THE CONTRACT FROM THE BEGINNING.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ENDED UP WITH THAT.

IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT YOU HONOR YOUR COMMITMENTS TO PAY.

WHEN WE ORIGINALLY STARTED LOOKING AT THIS OPTION YOU SHOWED US PICTURES OF BUS STOPS WITH GARBAGE CANS THERE.

AND WE ALL THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET A REFUSE CAN WITH THE STATION. IN THE MEANTIME WHAT'S HAPPENED IS I SEE STUFF PILED UP ON THESE BENCHES QUITE OFTEN.

NEWSPAPERS, COKE BOTTLES AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS.

WHAT REALLY BURNS ME IS THE ADVERTISING.

IF YOU COULD SHOW THAT FIRST SLIDE I HAD.

THIS IS AT RIDGE CREST AND BLANDING BOULEVARD.

I'VE GOT TWO HOAS THAT HAVE WRITTEN ME COMPLAINT LETTERS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR BENCH. WHEN YOU ARE TURNING LEFT ON TO BLANDING YOU CAN'T SEE THE ON-COMING TRAFFIC HALF THE TIME.

AND I ASKED IT BE FIXED AND REMOVED I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MONTHS AGO, HOWARD, YOU WERE JUST HERE.

IT'S STILL THERE. AND NOBODY SEEMS TO LISTEN TO ANYTHING. AND IT'S NOT JUST ME.

IT'S MY CONSTITUENTS I'M TALKING ABOUT.

NEXT SLIDE. AND NOTICE THE POP BOTTLE THERE.

I TOOK THAT THIS MORNING. >> SPEAKER: IF I MAY ADDRES THAT. THIS IS THE FIRST THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION. WE KNOW THERE'S ONE CONSTITUENT WHO HAS A PROPERTY NEARBY AND HAS ASKED US TO RELOCATE THAT BENCH. WE'RE LOOK INTO THE OPTION.

BUT UNDERSTANDABLY IT COST $700 TO POUR A NEW PAD.

SAYS YOU WILL REMOVE THE BENCHEN WITHIN 48 HOURS.

>> WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY OTHER INDICATION THAT WE NEEDED TO DO SO EXCEPT FOR YOU TELLING US TODAY WITH ALL RESPECT SIR.

AS FOR THE TRASH RECEPTACLES THAT WAS NEVER PART OF THE AGREEMENT AM THAT WAS AN ADDED COST WHICH WE INTRODUCED THAT COULD BE LATER ADDED. IT IS AN ADDED COST WE DID NOT AGREE UPON WITH YOUR TERMS AND CONDITIONS.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: I UNDERSTAND THAT.

THE REST OF THE BOARD VOTED IT DOWN.

BUT IT WAS SHOWN TO US AS A SALES PITCH.

AND I THOUGHT AT THAT TIME IT WAS PROBABLY OKAY.

CAN WE SHOW THE NEXT ONE. THE NEXT PICTURE.

THERE WE GO. THIS IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF BLANDING AND CAMP JOHNSON ROAD. THIS IS WHERE I LEAVE MY HOUSE EVERY MORNING TO GO SOME PLACE. I GET TO LOOK AT THIS BEAUTIFUL

AD HERE ON THIS SIGN. >> OF A BUSINESS CORRECT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: IT IS A PAIN AD.

>> IT'S NOT PROHIBITED. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I KNOW THAT.

BUT I ALSO REQUESTED WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE A WAY TO MONITOR WHAT KIND OF ADS GO UP HERE. I CALLED THE NUMBER TODAY.

I WASN'T SURE IF THIS WAS A PAIN PILL CLINIC OR LEGAL DEAL.

IT TURNED OUT TO BE A LEGAL AD. BUT THAT LOOKS LIKE BLIGHT TO ME. I REALLY HAVE A HEARTBURN ABOUT THESE ADS GOING IN ON OUR PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.

WE'RE GETTING WHAT IS IT $9,000 A YEAR TO HAVE 36 OF THESE THINGS STUCK ALL OVER THE COUNTY.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE BENCHES BUT TO HAVE THE ADVERTISING GOING ON OUR COUNTY PROPERTY WITHOUT US GETTING-- AND HALF THE TIME THEY DON'T PAY.

THAT'S WHERE I AM AT. >> THAT'S ANOTHER INACCURATE STATEMENT SIR. IF I MAY.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: SO I HAVE A QUESTION THROUGH THE CHAIR.

COURTNEY, IN THE AGREEMENT IS THERE AN AGREEMENT OR A CLAUSE THAT ALLOWS US TO REQUEST A RELOCATION?

>> CITY ATTORNEY: I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A RELOCATION OR-- I MEAN, THERE IS PROVISIONS IN HERE IF YOU FAIL TO COMPLY WITH THE-- IF ADVERTISING FAILS TO COMPLY WITH STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS. DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING

ABOUT RELOCATION? >> THERE IS PRETTY SPECIFIC RULES ABOUT WHAT CAN BE ADVERTISED.

AND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT GOES AGAINST SOME OF THOSE RULES I THINK THERE'S ABOUT 13 ITEMS. VULGARITY, NIGHT CLUBS.

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>> COUNCILMEMBER: IT'S ONE OF THOSE SHOCK ADS.

YOU KNOW, THEY FIRST CAME OUT WITH A COUPLE OF THOSE AND I HAD ALL KINDS OF OBJECTIONS AND THEY TOOK THEM DOWN.

NOW THEY'RE BACK AGAIN. I AM WONDERING WHO IS ADMINISTERING. AS THERE'S BEEN A GAP HERE IN WHO'S ACTUALLY CONTROLLING THIS THING.

SO I UNDERSTAND-- >> COUNCILMEMBER: I WILL AGREE THAT ONE DOESN'T LOOK VERY PROFESSIONAL.

THAT ONE EVEN OFFENDED ME. THE ONE THAT IS A BRIGHT PINK

AND SAYS 411-PAIN. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I THINK THOSE WERE SIMILAR TO THE ONES THEY PUT UP THE FIRST GO AROUND.

THAT WAS PRIOR TO ME BEING ON THE BOARD AND I THINK YOU ASKED THEM TO TAKE THAT DOWN AND THEY DID.

BUT IT WAS THE PEPTO-BISMOL PINK WITH THE LARGE NUMBERS.

>> THIS IS NOT BRIGHT PINK YOU ARE REFERRING TO.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: SAY THAT AGAIN.

>> IT'S NOT BRIGHT PINK. IT'S LESS PINK NOW.

A LIGHTER PINK. >> COUNCILMEMBER: OKAY.

BUT IT'S PINK. >> YES ON THE EDGES.

[LAUGHTER] >> COUNCILMEMBER: WITH ALL DUE RESPECT I'M LOOKING AT THE BUSINESS BEHIND THAT BENCH, IF THAT WAS MY BUSINESS, I WOULD BE OFFENDED THAT I HAD THAT SIGN IN

FRONT OF MY BUSINESS. >> ALSO THESE ARE ALL-- EVERYBODY ADVERTISING ARE ALL LOCAL CLAY COUNTY BUSINESSES

THAT ARE HERE IN CLAY COUNTY. >> COUNCILMEMBER: COMMISSIONER BOLLA WHEN YOU CALLED THAT NUMBER DID YOU GET A LOCAL

OFFICE? >> COUNCILMEMBER: NO IT WAS SOME PLACE AND I DIDN'T ASK WHERE THEY WERE.

THEY IDENTIFIED-- I GOT A RECORDING THAT SAID IT WAS A LAWYER, YOU KNOW, AMBULANCE KIND OF CHASING THING.

THEN I DIDN'T LEAVE A MESSAGE. I HUNG UP.

AND I GOT A CALL BACK IN ABOUT TWO MINUTES SOMEBODY WAS ON ME.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: THEY WANT TO REEL YOU IN.

>> IT'S PROBABLY AN ANSWERING SERVICE THAT ANSWERS THEIR LINE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: THEY'RE NOT LOCAL CLAY COUNTY BY ANY MEANS.

>> THEIR OFFICE IS BASED ON PARK STREET.

IT'S A CHIROPRACTOR OFFICE THAT WORKS WITH THAT ATTORNEY.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: THE CHIROPRACTOR WORKS WITH THAT 411-PAIN. GOT YOU.

OKAY. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS, TO GO BACK TO YOUR QUESTION. IN ORDER TO-- ONCE THE PERMIT'S BEEN AUTHORIZED FOR THE LOCATION OF THE BENCH, THERE ARE CERTAIN SITUATIONS IN THE AGREEMENT THAT IF THEY BREACH THOSE PROVISIONS THAT YOU CAN ASK FOR THEM TO BE RELOCATED.

CERTAIN INSTANCES SUCH AS SITE VISIBILITY ISSUES, INTERFERENCE WITH PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC OR THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OR SOMETHING THAT OBSCURES LAWFULLY EXISTING SIGNS.

SO, THERE ARE CERTAIN PROVISIONS IN HERE THAT IF A BENCH FALLS WITHIN THOSE THEN THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO REMOVE IT UPON

NOTICE FROM THE COUNTY MANAGER. >> ANY TIME WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO ADJUST A BENCH, WE'VE DONE IT. IF ANYBODY HAS CALLED ME ABOUT A

PROBLEM WE TAKE CARE OF IT. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I HAVE TO STAND UP FOR PATRICK. WE HAD A BENCH THAT WAS ON THE-- I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME-- IN FLEMING ISLAND AT A SHOPPING CENTER AND THEY WERE ON THE SHOPPING CENTER'S PROPERTY AND THEY MOVED IT AND ACTUALLY THEY DIDN'T MOVE IT THEY CUT A DEAL WITH THE SHOPPING DEAL TO KEEP IT THERE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: MADE THEM HAPPY.

THAT'S ALL WE WANT. >> COUNCILMEMBER: SO THEY'RE CERTAINLY THERE TO WORK WITH US IN WHATEVER CASE.

I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS TAKE SOME OF THE PAIN OUT OF COMMISSIONER BOLLA'S LIFE WHEN HE IS DRIVING PAST THAT EVERY MORNING IS TO MAYBE LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW, THE ARTWORK THAT GOES UP THERE AND, IN THIS CASE, HE'S GOT A BENCH THAT MIGHT BE A SAFETY HAZARD IN TERMS OF BEING IN THE DRIVER'S VIEW AS THEY'RE TRYING TO MOVE OUT ON TO A BUSY STREET.

SO, I MEAN, I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS HAVE A MECHANISM AND SOME WAY INSIDE OUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS THAT THERE'S A CONTACT POINT WHERE SOMEBODY LIKE THE COMMISSIONER CAN GO TO AND SAY LOOK I THINK THIS IS A PROBLEM CAN YOU TALK TO THE GUYS AND GET THEM TO HANDLE IT RATHER THAN WAIT TO A BOARD MEETING WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S WEEKS OR MONTHS INDIFFERENCE.

>> IN ALL RESPECT YOU ALL KNOW ME AND HAVE MY CELL PHONE NUMBER. IF THERE'S AN ISSUE PLEASE-- AS PERTAINS TO ARTWORK. WHAT YOU THINK LOOKS GOOD IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN COMMISSIONER AND A VICE VERSA OF COMMISSIONER ROLINS. SO, TO HAVE DISCRETION ON ARTWORK UNLESS IT'S LAID OUT WHAT TYPES CANNOT BE ADVERTISED.

I WOULD RECOMMEND IF YOU WANT TO INCREASE THAT AND ADD ADDITIONAL THINGS I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO.

BUT THE STATE TO HAVE DISCRETION ON WHAT ARTWORK LOOKS LIKE I THINK THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF OPINIONS ON THE TABLE.

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>> COUNCILMEMBER: I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE PLAN OVERALL.

I THINK THE SIMPLE SOLUTION, SORRY THE BRIDGE TOO FAR IS SIT DOWN WITH COMMISSIONER AN AND THE ONE WHERE HIS ROAD IS AND HE ASKS TO SEE THE AD AND MAKE SURE IT'S OKAY WITH IT.

THEN MOVE THAT TO SOME OTHER BENCH.

THEN IF IT IS A TRAFFIC HAZARD THEN I DEFINITELY WANT THAT BENCH MOVED. BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANY TRAFFIC FATALITIES AS A RESULT OF A BENCH.

I THINK THOSE THINGS ARE SIMPLE. AND YOU ALREADY I THINK HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE TO CLARIFY AND RECTIFY THE PAST PAYMENT STUFF.

CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT. >> WE HAVE A CHECK REMAINING OF 2019 WE WORKED OUT WITH A PAYMENT PLAN WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER AND COUNTY ATTORNEY TO MAKE QUARTERLY PAYMENTS.

WE ARE GOING TO FINISH PAYING OFF ALL 2019 TODAY.

WE HAVE THE CHECK NOW. >> COUNCILMEMBER: GOOD.

AT SOME POINT IF COMMISSIONER BOLLA IS AMENABLE TO IT SIT DOWN WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER AND HIM AND GO THROUGH KIND OF THE RECORDS OF WHAT'S BEEN PAID AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE PAID AND ALL

THAT? >> THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: YOU ARE ASKING FOR 36 MORE BENCHES.

WHAT'S THE BENEFIT TO YOUR COMPANY TO ADD THESE BENCHES? OBVIOUSLY WE SEE SOME BENEFIT FROM HOPEFULLY THE CONSUMER VIEW, THIS RIDERS, WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL PLACES THEY'LL BE ABLE TO MEET UP WITH THE BUS. BUT ON YOUR SIDE.

>> THE BENCHES ARE ALREADY INSTALLED.

THESE ARE 36 THAT ARE APPROVED AND STOPS.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: WHAT ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL TEN.

>> YOU HAVE TWO AT THE V.A. CLINIC.

THEY REQUESTED THAT AND ONE OVER BLANDING AND CLOSE IN SOME GAPS. THEY SAID IF YOU CAN CLOSE IN SOME GAPS WITH JTA THEY CONTINUE TO EXPAND THEIR ROUTES THEY'VE ASKED US WOULD WE BE INTERESTED IN CONTINUING TO ADD ADDITIONAL BENCHES IN THE FUTURE. WHICH WE WOULD GLADLY DO SO WITH

YOUR APPROVAL >> COUNCILMEMBER: WHO DID YOU TALK TO AT JTA? I GOT A DIFFERENT STORY FROM

JTA. >> FROM LISA TO CARL WALKERMAN.

AN RODRIGUEZ. >> COUNCILMEMBER:

>> COUNCILMEMBER: LISA SAID SHE LIKED THE BENCHES.

>> SHE DID. AND MIGHT POINT OUT--

>> COUNCILMEMBER: THAT'S NOT WHAT SHE TOLD ME.

>> THE CONTRACT MANAGER AND SHARICE HAVE BEEN ON THE PHONE CALLS WITH THEM ABOUT THE BENCHES.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED.

I FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN BEATING A DEAD HORSE SINCE THE FALL TRYING TO GET THIS MOVING FORWARD AND HERE WE ARE SEEKING APPROVAL ON

THESE FINAL TEN. >> COUNCILMEMBER: I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE FINAL TEN ESPECIALLY FOR THE V.A. CLINIC.

IF JTA IS REQUESTING CERTAIN LOCATIONS I'M FINE WITH THAT.

I HAVE ONE IN MY DISTRICT THAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO BE MOVED.

>> THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL WORK WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER AND COUNTY ATTORNEY WITH. THERE'S CONCERNS ON THE COST OF RELOCATING SUCH AND HAVING TO GO BACK THROUGH PERMITTING AS WELL AS HAVING TO COME BACK FOR YOU HOPEFULLY.

I'D LIKE TO SEEK YOUR APPROVAL TODAY TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER FOR HIM TO SIGN OFF VERSUS US COMING BACK TO YOU TO GET APPROVAL ON ANOTHER RELOCATION JUST TO MOVE ONE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: THAT SHOULD BE FINE.

>> BECAUSE THIS IS A LONG PROCESS.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: IF YOU RUN OUT OF SPOTS BRING ONE TO LAKE

ASBURY. >> I'D LOVE TO.

WE'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME IN KEYSTONE AS WELL.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: WHEN I'M RUNNING IF I GET TIRED WHERE DO I SIT. [LAUGHTER]

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: TALK ABOUT MODIFICATION OF PAYMENT TERMS. WE'VE GOT TALKED ABOUT THAT HAVE WE?

>> WE'RE GOING TO DO THE QUARTERLY.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: AS OPPOSED TO.

>> ANNUAL IS WHAT IT WAS PREVIOUSLY.

ON AGING IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE - MONTHLY.

>> THEN IT ADJUSTED TO QUARTERLY ACTUALLY:

>> COUNCILMEMBER: SO WHAT'S THIS WHOLE THING WORTH TO THE COUNTY?

>> I CAN'T EVEN GIVE THE FIGURE TO YOU RIGHT NOW.PFOR YOU TO DO

SECTOR. >> COUNCILMEMBER: WE ALL KNOW RIGHT. WHAT A BUSINESSMAN.

>> THE MAINTENANCE TO MAINTAIN THE BUS BENCH IS ABOUT $300 A BENCH PER YEAR. IT COSTS US, YOU KNOW, ABOUT CLOSE TO $3,000 PER STOP. SO, YOU ARE SAVING THAT.

YOU ARE NOT SPENDING TAXPAYER DOLLARS PUTTING THE BENCHES OUT AND NOT PAYING TAX PAYING DOLLARS MAINTAINING.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: WHAT IS THE COUNTY GETTING PER YEAR.

>> 15 PERCENT OF THE NET REVENUE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: WHAT'S THE PROJECTED REVENUE.

>> I DON'T HAVE THOSE IN FRONT OF US.

>> CITY ATTORNEY: FOR 2019 IT WAS A LITTLE AROUND $9,000.

>> UNDERSTAND ALSO IMPACTED BY COVID AS WELL.

MANY OF OUR SMALL BUSINESSES ARE NOT FOCUSSING ON SPENDING ADVERTISING DOLLARS THEY ONCE WERE.

WE EXPECT REVENUES TO DIP THIS YEAR AS WELL.

>> THEY'VE ALREADY DIPPED. WE ALSO HELPED OUT A LOT OF

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SMALL BUSINESSES TO WHERE WE DIDN'T EVEN CHARGE THEM DURING APRIL AND MAY. THEY COULDN'T EVEN OPEN.

SO WE HELPED OUT A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES AS WELL.

SMALL BUSINESSES HERE IN CLAY COUNTY.

>> AND THE PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT IF THE COUNTY HAS THE ABILITY TO COORDINATE WITH PUSH TO DO ANY PERSONAL SERVICE

ANNOUNCEMENTS. >> ONCE WE HAD TO DO A VETERANS

EVENT. >> COUNCILMEMBER: WE'VE DONE THAT A COUPLE TIMES. I WAS GOING TO SAY IT'S ABOUT $20,000 IN REVENUE BETWEEN WHAT WE SAVE ON MAINTENANCE AND WHAT WE GET AND THEN OVER 100,000 IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT UP FRONT.

>> AND SEVERAL CASES WHERE BENCHES HAVE BEEN HIT BY A CAR.

GREEN COVE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE AND REPLACED THE

NEW ONES OUT. >> ONE IN ORANGE PARK AS WELL.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: DOES INSURANCE COVER THAT?

>> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY? SO A COUPLE OF THINGS JUST TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE. I THINK IT'S A COMPLETE AGREEMENT THAT 411-PAIN ON THAT ONE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.

IF THEY'VE GOT A DIFFERENT GRAPHICOR SOMETHING ON THAT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I COULD MAYBE TAKE A LOOK AT AND

MAYBE TALK TO COMMISSIONER. >> COUNCILMEMBER: NEEDS TO BE

STYLIZED A LITTLE BIT. >> YES, SIR.

THE SECOND WOULD BE TO SIT DOWN-- I THINK THERE'S TWO BENCHES I AM HEARING THAT NEED TO BE COMPLETELY ELIMINATED.

AND I WOULD JUST SAY THAT ON THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, I'LL TAKE CARE OF OTHERS IF THE BOARD GIVES ME APPROVAL I'LL TAKE CARE OF THE OTHER ONES IF THERE'S A HAZARD.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A WHILE TOO FOR THE LIST.

THE LIST IS EXHIBIT A WITHIN YOUR PACKETS.

THEY'RE ALL LISTED IN THERE AND THOSE LOCATIONS.

PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG THERE.

THE THIRD THING COMES TO THE REVENUE SIDE.

AND REALLY IT DOES COME DOWN TO THE MONEY.

IT SHOULD BE A BUSINESS PLAN THAT I WOULD LIKE TO-- IF WE COULD MAYBE COMMISSIONER BOLLA AND I SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND GO OVER THAT. YOU SHOULD HAVE PROJECTED REVENUES FOR NEXT YEAR. WITH THE ADDED STOPS THERE'S PROJECTED REVENUES THERE. I MEAN, RIGHT NOW WE SAID $9,000. WHAT I THINK WE'D LIKE TO SEE IS IT WHAT WAS IT IN 2018 AND OWED TO THE COUNCIL ON AGING TO CLEAR UP WHETHER THEY WERE OWED MONEY. IF THEY WERE THOSE MONEYS SHOULD COME TO THE TAXPAYERS TO THE COUNTY.

TWO, 2019 CHECKS ARE TAKEN CARE OF.

AND WITH THE PAYMENT TODAY WITH WE'LL TAKE THE PAYMENT HERE, SHARICE CAN TAKE THE CHECK FOR THE REMINDING FOR 2019.

FOR 2020 IF YOU GIVE US AN IDEA WHEN COMMISSIONER BOLLA AND I SIT DOWN HAVE THE BUSINESS PLAN TOGETHER TO LET US KNOW HOW MUCH WE CAN EXPECT FOR 2020 HERE AND INTO THE FUTURE.

AND WHAT THAT GROWTH REVENUE. I MEAN, THERE SHOULD BE SOME SORT OF GROWTH REVENUE THERE. I MEAN, I THOUGHT I SAW SOMETHING THAT SAID $16,000 PERHAPS THEN GO FORWARD FROM THERE. BUT AGAIN THAT WAS IN AN EMAIL THAT I THINK I SAW BUT WE CAN SAY SIT DOWN AND TALK TO YOU

ABOUT THAT. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WE'VE SPENT ENOUGH TIME ON BUS BENCHES.

SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME TO A DECISION ON THIS ONE WAY OR THE

OTHER. >> AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER BOLLA TALKED ABOUT THE RIDGE CREST AND BLANDING.

THERE WERE DISCUSSIONOSIS THAT VIA EMAIL.

FEBRUARY OF 2019 WE DID HAVE DISCUSSION WITH JTA.

APPROVAL WITH THE CAVEAT STATED THE PARTY HAS AGREED TO.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: SECOND. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED. >> COUNCILMEMBER: AYE.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: SO MOVED. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

[9. Lien Reduction]

[10. Lien Reduction]

>> SPEAKER: YOU GUYS READY? GO AHEAD.

>> SO BAYLOR AVE. I'M HERE FOR A COUPLE OF LIEN REDUCTIONS.

LET'S TALK ABOUT BAYLOR AVENUE FOR JUST A SECOND.

THIS IS CASE 06-017. MS. GUTHRIE WAS SUPPOSEDS TO BE

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HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS FOR HER SISTER I THINK IT WAS WHO IS NOW DECEASED. AND SHE WAS EXPOSED TO COVID SO I TOLD HER STAY HOME. WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS CASE AGAIN CASE 06-017, IT'S 6336 BAYLOR AVENUE.

MICHAEL CRIBBY WAS THE OWNER WITH ALL THE VIOLATIONS OCCURRED. THEN MR. LAVONIA MELVIN BECAME THE OWNER. THE CASE WAS ACTIVE FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS. ONE YEAR, 11 MONTHS AND SOME DAYS. $25 A DAY FINE.

LIEN TOTALLED OVER $17,000. ALMOST $18,000.

STAFF'S COSTS WERE CALCULATED AT $3,800.

ON JUNE 4TH SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HARTEN RECOMMENDED THE $17,825 LIEN BE REDUCED TO ZERO. HER DECISION WAS BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER DID NOT CREATE THE VIOLATIONS AND THE PROPERTY OWNER WITH A TAX LIEN SOLD MULTIPLE TIMES PRIOR TO MS. MELVIN PURCHASING THE PROPERTY.

MS. MELVIN WAS UNAWARE OF THE LIEN WHEN SHE PURCHASED BECAUSE THE LIEN SEARCH STUFF APPARENTLY PER THEM WERE NOT DONE.

SO, THEY'RE WORKING-- IT'S CLEAN.

THEY'VE CLEANED IT. THE PROBLEM WAS THERE WHEN THEY BOUGHT IT AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO GET A LITTLE ASSISTANCE ON THAT.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: THE BOARD'S PLEASURE IN

>> COUNCILMEMBER: MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

WITH A RECOMMENDATION SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: IS THERE A SECOND?

>> COUNCILMEMBER: I'LL SECOND IT.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED. >> COUNCILMEMBER: AYE.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: IT PASSES. ITEM 10.

>> 4427 BOND ARICO ROAD. CASE 0 9D-094.

MR. HOWSE IS HERE. HE IS THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER. MR. DONALD WARREN WAS THE PREVIOUS OWNER AND THE PROPERTY OWNER WHEN THE VIOLATIONS BECAME ACTIVE. THIS CASE WAS ACTIVE FOR A LONG TIME. NINE YEARS, SEVEN MONTHS AND ONE DAY. NON-PERMITTED MOBILE HOME.

ALL KINDS OF ISSUES HONESTLY. THERE WAS A FINE OF $100 A DAY STARTING BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2009.

AS OF APRIL 18, 2019, ALL THE VIOLATIONS WERE CORRECTED.

WHEN THEIR HOWSE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY ALSO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICE RECEIVED A SURPLUS BECAUSE THIS WAS A TAX DEED SALE. WE RECEIVED A SURPLUS OF $5,800 AND CHANGE. $5,828.98.

THE TOTAL LIENS ON THIS, BRACE YOURSELF, WAS $344,271 BECAUSE IT WAS ACTIVE FOR SO LONG. STAFF'S COSTS WERE $2,640 ON JUNE 4TH SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HARTEN RECOMMENDED THE $344,271.02 LIEN BE REDUCED TO ZERO.

HER DECISION WAS BASED ON THE PROPERTY BEING BROUGHT TO COMPLIANCE BY THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER WHO DID NOT CREATE THE VIOLATIONS. HER DECISION WAS ALSO MADE ON THE SURPLUS CHECK THAT BROUGHT IN $5,028.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: I MOVE APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: SECOND. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? DO YOU LIVE HERE MR. HOWSE?

>> I LIVE IN MICHIGAN. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: OH GREEN COVE. OKAY.

[LAUGHTER] ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER: YOU CAME FROM

MICHIGAN FOR THIS? >> YES, I DID.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: DO YOU HAVE TO BE QUARANTINED BEFORE YOU GO

BACK? >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: SHARICE WHY DON'T WE HEAR-- WE DISCUSSED SOMETIME BACK AN AN AMNESTY PROGRAM. WHERE ARE WE ON THAT.

>> WE'LL DO IT REAL QUICK IF IT'S ALL RIGHT.

WE SENT OUT LETTERS TO ANY FOLKS WHO HAVE LIEN ISSUES ABOUT OUR AMNESTY PROGRAM. SENT THOSE ROTE LETTERS OUT AROUND THE THIRD WEEK OF JUNE. IT STARTED JULY 1ST.

SO WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL INQUIRIES WHAT'S BEEN INTERESTING IS SOME FOLKS HAVE HAD SOME OF THEM FOR SO LONG OR MAYBE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY JUST LIKE ONE OF THESE CASES WE TOLD YOU ABOUT THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY HAD A LIEN.

SO THIS HAS BEEN AN EYE OPENING EXPERIENCE FOR SOME.

I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD ANY APPLICATIONS TURNED IN YET BUT

IT'S ONLY BEEN OPEN FOR 13 DAYS. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: WE HAD A

TIME LIMITATION ON THAT? >> YES, SIR, FROM JULY TO

DECEMBER 31ST TO APPLY. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: DID WE PUSH

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THAT INFORMATION OUT SOMEHOW. >> WE'RE DOING THAT.

AND WE'VE SENT LETTERS. WE HAVE SENT LETTERS TO

EVERYBODY ON OUR LIST. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: ITEM 11

[11. Bid #19/20-33, Public Safety Radio Tower Upgrades - Equipment Purchase And Installation]

PUBLIC SAFETY RADIO TOWER UPDATE EQUIPMENT PURCHASES AND INSTALLATION. CHIEF MOATS?

>> SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON. WE'RE BOTH GOING TO TAKE THIS ITEM. I'M GOING TO KICK IT OFF WITH GOING OVER WHAT WE'RE ASKING AS FAR AS THE AWARD OF THIS BID.

THIS WAS THE PUBLIC SAFETY RADIO TOWER UPGRADE BID.

WE RECEIVED ONE BID THAT WAS FROM MOTOR ROLEA.

TATE WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL TO AWARD THE BID TO MOTOROLA FOR THEIR BASE PROJECT SCOPE IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,020,000.

WITH THEIR BID SPLITAL THEY PROPOSED AN ALTERNATE SOLUTION FOR A COMPLETE SITE BUILDING UPGRADE.

AND WITH THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR FURTHER APPROVAL TO CONSIDER THEIR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE SITE UPGRADE AND ALLOW STAFF TO NEGOTIATE THE DETAILS OF THE SCOPE OF THAT AND THE DETAILS OF THE PRICE AND BRING THAT BACK TO THE BOARD AS PART OF THE FORMAL WRITTEN AGREEMENT. AND DAVID IS HERE TO KIND OF GO OVER MORE DETAILS OF THE PROJECT WITH YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS ON THE PROJECT. >> PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT.

THE COUNTY HAS SIX TOWER SITES. WHEN WE REPLACED THE 800 MEGAHERTZ RADIO SYSTEM THAT WAS THE GUTS OF THE RADIO SYSTEM IN ORDER TO REPLACE SOME OF THE OLDER OTHER COMPONENTS OF THE SYSTEM WE WENT OUT FOR A NEW L.E.D. TOWER LIGHTING, GENERATORS, UPSES, ACS AND BACK UP ACS FOR THE FACILITIES AND BACK-UP POWER IF A GENERATOR FAILS.

THIS IS A RESULT OF THAT BID THAT WE PUT OUT.

WHEN WE WERE OUT THERE, THAT IS YOUR BASE OF THE $1,020,000 THAT WE'RE MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION TO GO FORWARD WITH TODAY.

WHILE WE WERE OUT THERE AND SUBSEQUENT TO THOSE INSPECTIONS THOSE SHELTERS, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE REPLACED THE SHELL EATER THE FAIR GROUNDS TOWER SITE. THE OTHER SHELTERS ARE PROBABLY EARLY '90S WHEN THEY WERE PUT IN.

WE'VE BEEN REFUELING THEM AND THEY REPAIR THEM.

THEY CAME BACK WE BOTH RECOGNIZE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

THEY CAME BACK WITH AN ALTERNATE PROPOSAL TO REPLACE THE REMAINDER MUCH THOSE OTHER FIVE SITES.

THE ACTUAL STRUCTURES THEMSELVES.

SO, WE'RE WILLING TO GO FORWARD AND LOOK AT THAT WITH THEM AND, OF COURSE, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

YOU WILL NOTICE DIFFERENCEOSIS THE NUMBERS.

THAT'S BECAUSE THE L.E.D. TOWER ALL THE LIGHTS REPLACED AND AT THE FAIRGROUNDS YOU HAVE ALREADY HAD THE SHELTER AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER COMPONENTS REPLACED AND THE GENERATORS HAVE BEEN REPLACED THERE. SO IT'S BASICALLY ROUNDING OUT THE REST OF THE SYSTEMS FOR THE ORIGINAL ITEMS THAT I TALKED TO

YOU ABOUT. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO GET THE SECOND PROPOSAL UP TO SPEED AND GET

BACK TO OURS, DAVID? >> WELL I BELIEVE WORKING WITH THE WELL ORGANIZED TEAM THAT WE HAVE IN LEGAL IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A MATTER OF DEVELOPING WHAT THE SCOPE OF THAT IS.

BECAUSE WHEN THEY CAME OUT AND TOLD US THEY WERE GOING TO REPLACE THE ACTUAL SHELTERS THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO DOING THAT AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THOSE ITEMS BEFORE WE MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATION TO GO FORWARD.

I COULDN'T DISCUSS IT WITH THEM BECAUSE OF THE NO CONTACT PERIOD

AT ALL UP TO THIS POINT. >> COUNCILMEMBER: IN TERMS OF WANTS AND NEEDS, THE ORIGINAL BID IS WHAT WE NEED, IS THAT

CORRECT? >> THE ORGINAL BID WAS PART OF WHAT WE NEEDED. WE DID NOT BID THE SHELTERS YET AND NOR HAVE WE LOOKED AT THE ACTUAL TOWERS THEMSELVES WHICH WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IN THE PROCESS OF GOING FORWARD TO GET THE TOWERS INSPECTED AND THOSE TWO PIECES, THE REMAINING SHELTERS AND THE TOWERS THEMSELVES WOULD BE THE LAST TWO PIECES TO

ADDRESS THE NEW RADIO SYSTEM. >> COUNCILMEMBER: WHERE I'M TRYING TO GO IS IF WE SPENT A MILLION AND SAVED $500,000 IN OUR PRESENT SITUATION, I THINK IT COULD BE PUT OFF FOR A YEAR

OR TWO THAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE. >> WE DID LOOK AT THAT.

IT REALLY MAKES GOOD SENSE TO GO FORWARD WITH THE SHELTERS NOW.

WHY? BECAUSE WITH THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE INSTALLING IN THERE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PULL THOSE BACK TO PUT THE NEW SHELTERS IN AND PUT THOSE BACK IN THERE.

SO, REALLY YOU ARE GOING TO SAVE MONEY BY DOING THAT NOW AND I BELIEVE THAT'S ALSO MAYBE WHY THEY PUT THAT FORWARD IN THE PROJECT TO DO IT. BECAUSE EVERYTHING TIES BACK INTO THE PROGRAM MANAGER PART OF THE RADIO SYSTEM.

SO, LIKE THE LIGHTS WHEN THEY GO OUT IT NOTIFIES US THAT IS ALL PART OF THE MOTOROLA RADIO SYSTEM.

THE AC'S WHEN THEY'RE OUT. ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

SO, IT IS A GOOD SPOT TO DO IT IF WE'RE ABLE TO.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: CHEAPER NOW THAN LATER.

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IT IS. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO GET A NUMBER BACK TO US?

>> MATTER OF HOW-- I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE A LOT OF STUFF GOING THROUGH YOUR PROCESS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND WE WERE WORKING ON THIS HARD TO GO FORWARD.

BUT WE REALLY DO NEED SOME TIME TO CONSIDER THIS ADDITIONAL PIECE OF THE PROJECT. BUT WE DO WANT YOUR APPROVAL ON THE MILLION 20 FOR ALL THOSE OTHER ITEMS TO THIS POINT TODAY.

AND AWARD THAT WIN. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: THEN YOU ARE

GOING TO COME BACK TO US-- >> WE'RE GOING TO GO FORWARD AND ATTEMPT TO GET A CONTRACT TOGETHER THAT BOTH OF US CAN

AGREE ON. >> COUNCILMEMBER: WHAT WE COULD

DO IS-- >> CITY ATTORNEY: WE HAVE THE AGREEMENT PRETTY MUCH READY. SO WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE $1,020,000 AND PROVID AN PROVISION FOR AMENDMENT FOR THE ALTERNATIVE. WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ON FINANCE IF WE WANT FOR NEXT WEEK AND THEN JUST BE PREPARED TO COME BACK IN A COUPLE WEEKS ON THE OTHER PART.

IF YOU WANT TO SEPARATE THEM. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: WELL I'D CERTAIN GLILY LIKE TO GET THE FIRST PART MOVING ALONG.

>> WHAT I'LL SAY IS IF WE'RE GOING TO ELECT TO DO THE OTHER ONE WE REALLY NEED TO DO THEM TOGETHER.

BECAUSE YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S-- THAT'S KIND OF WHAT MAKES

IT BENEFICIAL. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: I UNDERSTAND. OKAY.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: ISN'T THE $1,547,000 WHAT WE TOOK OUT OF

THE LINE ITEM AND PUT ASIDE? >> YES, SIR.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: THE ORIGINAL MOTOROLA RADIO PROJECT.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> COUNCILMEMBER: THEN WE PUT THE OTHER-- WHATEVER IT WAS. SO, WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR THE

MONEYS IN THERE. >> YES, SIR.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: SO I THINK THIS IS A NO-BRAINER.

THIS IS PUBLIC SAFETY THAT'S TELLING US THAT IT'S BETTER FOR OUR SYSTEM TO BE PROTECTED IN NEW SHELTERS.

WE'VE ALREADY PUT THE MONEY ASIDE AND MOVED THAT.

I THINK WE SHOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND LET THEM DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. SYSTEM YOU ARE GOING TO REPLACE ANYWAY. I MEAN, YOU ARE GOING TO.

THE TOWERS DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT ONE IS GOING TO GO, WE'LL GET THEM INSPECTED THEN THAT WOULD BE THE FINAL PIECE.

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WILL BE COMING AT SOME POINT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: CAN WE SAY THE SHELTERS CAUGHT COVID.

>> I WISH I COULD. [LAUGHTER] TROY, WE COULD ISOLATE PEOPLE IN THE SHELTERS.

[LAUGHTER] >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT SIR.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: YEAH. MY MOTION WOULD BE TO PROCEED WITH THE RECOMMENDATION WHICH IS TO UPGRADE ALL THE LOCATIONS AND DO THE WORK THAT WAS ORIGINALLY SPECIFIED AT MAKING IT A TOTAL

OF 1.547029. >> COUNCILMEMBER: SECOND.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED.

SO, DONE. THANK YOU, CHIEF.

[12. Donation of Surplus Fire Trucks to Argyle Volunteer Fire Dept.]

ITEM 12. DONATION OF SURPLUS FIRE TRUCKS TO ARGYLE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.

CHIEF MOCK? WE GOT CONTACT FROM A VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE PANHANDLE IN WALTHAM COUNTY WHO HAD INTEREST IN ASKING IF WE COULD DONATE THE TRUCKS. THE SURPLUS VEHICLES RAN THROUGH THE GOV DEALS OFFERING. THEY DID NOT GENERATE A LOT OF INTEREST. I THINK IT WAS 3,000 FOR ONE AND ABOUT $2,000 OR SO FOR THE OTHER.

IN THE PAST WE HAVE TYPICALLY LOOKED ABOUT $5,000 FOR EACH OF THE VEHICLES FIGURING THEY'RE AT LEAST WORTH THAT IN THEIR METAL WEIGHT. SO WE REJECTED THOSE BIDS.

WE ENTERED INTO DISCUSSION WITH THE VOLUNTEER DEPARTMENT.

THEY CAME IN AND INSPECTED IT, PROVIDED US THE DETAILS THAT WE NEED. THEIR NONPROFIT STATUS ET CETERA. WE'RE HERE RECOMMENDING THAT WE CONSIDER-- THE BOARD CONSIDERS THE DONATION OF THOSE TWO VEHICLES. A 2001 AND A 1999 EMERGENCY ONE VEHICLE THAT WAS PURCHASED AT THAT TIME. THEY HAVE RESPECTIVELY

172,193,000 MILES ON THEM. >> COUNCILMEMBER: MOVE FOR

APPROVAL. >> COUNCILMEMBER: SECOND.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED. SO, DONE.

THANK YOU CHIEF THAT WAS EASY. ITEM 13.

[13. Donation of Surplus Vehicle to the City of Keystone Heights]

DONATION OF SURPLUS VEHICLE TO THE CITY OF KEYSTONE HEIGHTS.

>> SO RECEIVED A LETTER FROM MARIA HITT.

SHE IS THE AIRPORT MANAGER AT KEYSTONE HEIGHTS AIRPORT.

AND THROUGH THE CITY OF KEYSTONE HEIGHTS IN THE BACK YOU SEE LEN

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BACK THERE THEY'RE REQUESTING A VEHICLE TO REPLACE A VEHICLE THEY'VE HAD AS A CREW VAN THAT ALLOWS PILOTS THAT ARE VISITING KEYSTONE HEIGHT TO GO OUT AND GET SOME CHOW, GET SOME FOOD, POSSIBLY GO TO A HOTEL, THINGS LIKE THAT AND THEN COME BACK AND HOP IN THE AIRCRAFT AND GO. SO, TYPICALLY I'VE PARTICIPATED IN THIS WITH AIRCRAFT IT'S NICE TO HAVE A VEHICLE ON LOAN FROM THE AIRPORT THAT'S THERE. APPARENTLY 12 YEARS AGO THE COUNTY DONATED THREE SURPLUS VEHICLES.

THEY'RE DOWN TO ONE. A 2002 IMPALA WITH 160,000 MILES. THEY'RE ASKING IF WE WOULDN'T MIND HAVING A SURPLUS VEHICLE DONATED TO THEM.

WE DETERMINED THAT THE VEHICLE THAT WE HAD IN OUR INVENTORY IS A 2008 FORD ESCAPE WITH 82,000 MILES ON IT.

APPROXIMATE VALUE SOMEWHERE IN THE RANGE OF $3,700 TO $5,400 ON THE AMOUNT FOR THE VEHICLE THAT WOULD BE DONATED.

JUST STANDING BY FOR QUESTIONS. AND LEN IS IN THE BACK FOR THIS.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: I PROVE APPROVAL.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: SECOND. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? SO DONE. NOW WE'RE DOWN TO THE 800 POUND GORILLA. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU, TROY.

[LAUGHTER] ITEM 14 CARES ACT.

[14. CARES Act (Troy Nagle)]

>> EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A PACKET THAT I PUT TOGETHER. CURRENTLY WE'VE SPENT OR ENCUMBERED ABOUT $654,000. WE HAVE ABOUT ANOTHER $194,000 PENDING PURCHASING REVIEW AS WE SPEAK.

WE HAVE BEEN ASKED I'LL DEFER TO COURTNEY OR KAREN ON CLARIFICATIONS ON OUR LAST CONVERSATION ABOUT APPROVAL TO WAIVE CERTAIN PARTS OF THE POLICY.

>> AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING WHEN WE DISCUSSED THE CARES ACT WE FELT LIKE THE MAIN FOCUS WAS ON THE YELLOW ITEMS BA US WE HAD THREE PHASES. WE JUST WANT TO BE SURE THE BOARD IS GIVEN CLEAR DIRECTION AT ANY POINT WE NEED TO WAIVE MINOR PORTIONS OF THE POLICY THAT THE COUNTY MANAGER HAS THAT AUTHORITY.

I'LL GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES. WE HAVE A LIST OF BIDS THAT TROY WILL GO OVER WITH YOU THAT WE'LL PUT OUT SOON.

RIGHT NOW THE POLICY SAYS BIDS ARE DUE ON A MONDAY AND WE HAVE TO OPEN THEM ON A TUESDAY. AND THAT JUST MAY NOT WORK WITH THE SCHEDULE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER TO EXPEDITE THESE PROJECTS. SO THAT IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE WOULD BE ANY DOCUMENTS THAT NEED TO COME TO THE BOARD VERSUS VIA THROUGH A FINANCE AND AUDIT.

AGAIN WE'RE NOT GOING TO ABUSE THIS OR MAY NOT EVEN NEED TO HAPPEN BUT WE FORESEE WHEN WE START GETTING CLOSER TO DECEMBER OR TRYING TO RUSH PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE COMPLETED THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY.

BEFORE YOU HAD LIMITED IT TO THE YELLOW ITEMS THEN WE MOVED FORWARD WITH THE YELLOW, WHITE AND BLUE ITEMS. SO WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS-- WHAT YOU GRANTED THE AUTHORITY YOU GRANTED FOR THE COUNTY MANAGER AND US WITH THE PURCHASING POLICY APPLIES TO ALL THREE DIFFERENT AREAS BECAUSE AT THIS POINT WE'VE MOVED PAST JUST THE YELLOW ITEMS. ADDITIONALLY TO ADD TO THAT, YOU APPROVED AT THE LAST MEETING THE USE OF THE ALTERNATIVE PURCHASE PROCEDURE IN CONNECTION WITH FLORIDA STATUTES 125.355 IN CONNECTION WITH A BUILDING WE WERE LOOKING FOR. WE HAVE TO UNDER OUR ALTERNATIVE PROCEDURES SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFY THE PROPERTY.

AT THE TIME WHEN WE PRESENTED IT TO YOU, IT WAS FOR 1845 TOWN CENTER BOULEVARD AND WE IDENTIFIED TWO BUILDINGS.

THOSE NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED SO WE JUST NEED FOR YOU TO CONFIRM THE ALTERNATIVE PROCEDURE WITH RESPECT TO BUILDINGS 40,600.

AS OPPOSED TO THE PREVIOUS NUMBERS.

>> IS THERE A WAY WE CAN LEAVE THAT FLEXIBLE SO IF IT CHANGES SINCE THEY'RE WORKING WITH ALL THREE BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE THE

FLEXIBILITY? >> CITY ATTORNEY: AS LONG AS YOU ARE AUTHORIZING APPROVAL FOR ANY OF THE BUILDINGS I THINK THERE'S FOUR DIFFERENT BUILDINGS. 1845.

>> THREE POTENTIAL. >> CITY ATTORNEY: OKAY

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>> COUNCILMEMBER: SO WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE STREET ADDRESS IT'S

JUST WHICH BUILDING. >> COUNCILMEMBER: MR. CHAIR MR. OTTO IS BEING RUDE AND ACCOSTING STAFF IN A WAY THAT IF HE DOES AGAIN I THINK SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE MEETING.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: I WAS JUST ABOUT TO GET TO THAT, MR. ROLLINS. I APPRECIATE IT.

MR. OTTO, FIRST THING I WILL DO IS ASK YOU TO REMOVE YOUR HEAD

GEAR. >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: YOU DIDN'T ASK A BLACK GUY TO REMOVE HIS HAT.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: DIDN'T NOTICE HIM.

I AM NOT ARGUING YOU EITHER REMOVE IT OR LEAVE.

MAKE UP YOUR MIND. >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: LEAVING.

I JUST ASK TO MAKE THE MINUTES RIGHT.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: IT'S NOT YOUR JOB AND I AM NOT ARGUING

WITH YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBER: IT WAS RUDE AND THREATENING. I WATCHED THE ENTIRE THING OCCUR. YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO SPEAK IN MEETINGS BUT YOU DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO BE RUDE AND ACCOST

STAFF. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: WHAT DID YOU

SAY? >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: I SAID KEEP RUNNING. THE BENCH ISN'T THERE.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: JUST BE QUIET.

WHERE WE WERE BEFORE WE HAD TO ADDRESS THAT? WE WE'RE MAKING A DECISION ABOUT THE BUILDINGS. THANK YOU.

>> SAME STREET ADDRESS. FLEXIBILITY AS TO THE SPECIFIC

BUILDINGS. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: OKAY.

>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: CAN I PUT THIS HAT ON?

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: OFFICER WOULD YOU REMOVE HIM?

GET HIM OUT OF HERE, PLEASE. >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF I CAN PUT THIS HAT ON.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: YOU CAN TAKE HIM TO THE FOYER OR OUT IN THE PARKING LOT JUST GET HIM OUT OF HERE.

>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: I'LL BE BACK. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: WELL, DON'T WEAR A COVER WHEN YOU COME BACK OKAY.

>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: YOU ARE ASKING US TO.

TO PROTECT YOUR STAFF. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: BUILDINGS.

I'M STARTING TO LOSE TRACK. I NEED A MOTION.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: I MOVE APPROVAL FOR WHAT THE COUNTY

ATTORNEY SAID. >> COUNCILMEMBER: SECOND.

[LAUGHTER] >> COUNCILMEMBER: WHAT ARE WE

VOTING ON? >> COUNCILMEMBER: THREE BUILDINGS THAT COULD BE PURCHASED RIGHT THEN WE CAN

CHOOSE BETWEEN THEM. >> THAT'S ONE PART OF IT.

AND THE FLEXIBILITY AS TO THE PURCHASING POLICY.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: WE DEFINITELY NEED SOME FLEXIBILITY BUILT INTO THIS WHOLE DCUMENT IF I SEE IT CORRECTLY.

GIVING THE COUNTY MANAGER SOME DISCRETION TO MAKE DECISIONS.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: SO WE'RE APPROVING THREE BUILDINGS BEING

BOUGHT. >> CITY ATTORNEY: YOU ARE NOT APPROVING NI PURCHASE. JUST UNDER THE ALTERNATIVE PROCEDURE WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET APPRAISALS AND MOVE FORWARD UNDER A SHORTENED TIMEFRAME. AND UNDER THE COUNTY'S ORDINANCE WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY THE PROPERTY.

AND YOU VOTED ON THE PROPERTY LAST MEETING BUT WE SWITCHED BUILDINGS THIS TIME. SO, WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD UNDER THE SAME PROCEDURE, SAME ADDRESS, BUT POTENTIALLY DIFFERENT BUILDINGS.

>> IT'S ABOUT THE SAME BUILDING. THE SITE HAS FOUR POTENTIAL BUILDINGS. THREE OF WHICH ARE OPEN FOR PURCHASE. THEY'VE ASKED US TO CONSIDER DIFFERENT BUILDING. I JUST WANT TO LEAVE THE FLEXIBILITY SOMING IF HAPPENS AND WE HAVE TO MOVE BACK TO ONE OF THE OTHER ONES THAT WE HAVE THIS FLEXIBILITY.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: THIS IS FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT?

>> YES, SIR. >> COUNCILMEMBER: EXCUSE ME I DON'T KNOW WHERE I AM COMING FROM

[LAUGHTER] >> IF I COULD CLARIFY TOO BECAUSE IT DOES GET A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING WITH IT.

SO THE BUILDINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE ARE NEXT TO THE FLEMING ISLAND LIBRARY. AND THERE'S A FOUR-BUILDING COMPLEX THAT'S THERE. THESE NUMBERS AND AGAIN I'M NOT TOTALLY UP TO SPEED ON THE NOMENCLATURE OF THEM BUT 400 TO 600 ARE BASICALLY THE FURTHEST TO THE SOUTH AND THEY PARALLEL THE FLEMING ISLAND LIBRARY. WHICH DOES MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER COMPARED TO WHAT WAS BEING OFFERED BEFORE AND THAT WAS LIKE 60,200 I THINK. BUT THAT WAS -- 600 AND 200.

THESE TWO BUILDINGS ARE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.

IT GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO BUILDINGS FOR PUBLIC HEALTH. THE OTHER BUILDING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THE PROPERTY ADDRESS HAS NOT CHANGED THAT'S FOR THE WAREHOUSE SOUTH OF GREEN COVE SPRINGS THAT WAS THE OTHER PURCHASE THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT.

THOSE WERE THE TWO PURCHASES, THE MAIN PURCHASES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND I DON'T KNOW, TROY, IF YOU WERE GOING TO BRIEF ANOTHER PURCHASE HERE ON YOUR BRIEF

TODAY. >> NOT RIGHT NOW.

>> OKAY. SO THOSE ARE THE MAIN ONES.

BUT I THINK MOST IMPORTANTLY IS TO UNDERSTAND I UNDERSTAND YOUR GUIDANCE ON WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, BOTH YELLOW, BLUE AND WHITE ON THE BRIEF SHEETS THAT YOU'VE HAD.

I AM NOT GOING TO DEVIATE AT ALL OF WHAT WAS WRITTEN DOWN ON

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THERE. IN FACT WE HAVE SPED UP SOME PORTIONS OF THAT WITH REGARDS TO NONPROFIT AS AN EXAMPLE THAT TROY WILL BE BRIEFING YOU. BUT I THINK IF I COULD HAVE THE NEXTBILITY TO MAYBE BYPASS FINANCE AND AUDIT AND COME STRAIGHT TO THE BOARD ON A COUPLE THINGS AND FOR US TO BE ABLE TO QUICKLY SPEED UP THE SITUATION TO INFORM THE BOARD ON THAT. SO, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY DEVIATION OUT OF WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY BRIEFED.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: SO MOVED. [LAUGHTER] I'M SO CONFUSED AS TO WHAT THE MOTION NEEDS TO EXACTLY SOUND LIKE BUT GENERALLYI THINK WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT.

THREE BUILDINGS, FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THE PURCHASING POLICY.

FLEXIBILITY WITHIN REASON AND, OF COURSE, YOU WILL DOCUMENT WHERE YOU DIFFERED FROM THE PURCHASING POLICY.

IT'S NOT A BLANK CHECK BUT IT'S FLEXIBILITY.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: SECOND. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: FURTHER DISCUSSION? HOLD IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED? SO DONE.

>> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE LIST WAS NONPROFIT APPLICATIONS.

THE BOARD ASKED THAT WE WENT AHEAD AND EXPEDITED GETTING NONPROFITS OUT. SO WE PUT OUT AN APPLICATION, HAD IT OUT FOR A WEEK. IT CLOSED YESTERDAY AT FIVE.

THE STAFF-- WE HAD THREE PEOPLE ON STAFF REVIEWING THE APPLICATIONS FOR COMPLIANT SO I. WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR SKEAN 16 OF THOSE IN THE SUM OF 400 INTO THOUSAND $45. THREE OF THE APPLICATIONS WE DEEMED NOT ELIGIBLE AND TWO WERE COMPLETE.

EITHER ONE DUE TO TIMING OF BEING ABLE TO GET THE APPLICATION BACK AND THE OTHER ONE WAS MICE SOMETHING STUFF THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK ON. SO I'LL STOP THERE.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: IF YOU WILL NOTICE IN YOUR PACKAGE THESE ARE COLOR CODED. TO REITERATE THE RED ONES WERE DISAPPROVED FOR PROBLEMS. THE YELLOW ONES--

>> IN ONE CASE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO COMPLETE THE APPLICATION AND THE OTHER WAS INCOMPLETE.

SO I WOULD ASK BASED ON THE BOARD'S DIRECTION WE HAD $750,000 ALLOCATED FOR NONPROFITS AND FOOD PANTRIES.

IF YOU CHOOSE TO APPROVE THE $492,000 TODAY I WOULD RECOMMEND REOPENING THE NONPROFIT APPLICATION PROCESS AND THEN AS WE GET THEM AND REVIEW THEM WE'LL BRING THEM BACK TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL. BUT GET THE $492,000 OUT TO THE

NONPROFITS. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: SO WE CAN

PICK UP EPISCOPAL LATER. >> COUNCILMEMBER: AS WELL AS OTHERS. I TALKED TO FOLKS AT NONPROFITS THAT WEREN'T AWARE AND COULDN'T THINK OF ANYTHING THEY COULD APPLY FOR. THEY DEAL WITH SENIOR CITIZENS SO I AM NOT SURE WHY THEY COULDN'T FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.

BUT NONETHELESS I THINK YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB.

THIS IS MONEY THAT'S GOING TO GO THE COMMUNITY IMMEDIATELY AND HELP WITH ALL THESE NONPROFITS THAT ARE HELPING OUR CITIZENS.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE CARES ACT IS ALL ABOUT.

AND I THINK THIS IS TERRIFIC WORK.

I'D BE GLAD TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE AS SITUATED.

OPEN IT UP ON SORT OF A ROLLING BASIS AND THEN AT SOME POINT MAYBE WITHIN NEXT 30 DAYS OR SO IF EVERYBODY ELSE IS INTERESTED IN REOPENING IT TO SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT ALREADY GOT FUNDING, ONCE WE'RE SURE WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY COVERED I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM TRYING TO GIVE MORE MONEY TO AGENCIES THAT GOT IT IF

THEY CAN PROVE THEY CAN USE IT. >> COUNCILMEMBER: SECOND.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: VERY GOOD. >> COUNCILMEMBER: YES.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY CHURCH AND STATE IMPLICATIONS HERE DO WE?

YOU HAVE REVIEWED THIS. >> CITY ATTORNEY: WHICH ONE ARE

YOU LOOKING AT FOR THE CHURCH. >> COUNCILMEMBER: THERE'S SEVERAL CHURCHES. HOW DO WE GET BY THAT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: THEIR PRIMARY FUNCTION IS LIKE IF THEY DO A FOOD DISTRIBUTION OR OUTREACH PROGRAMS AND SOCIAL SERVICES IN THE COMMUNITY. SO A CHURCH ISN'T APPLYING FOR THIS LIKE WE JUST NEED TO PAY OUR PASTOR.

>> COUNCILMEMBER: EPISCOPAL CHURCH WE PROVIDE THEM GRANTS.

>> PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THE ONES YOU PROVIDE ASSISTANCE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR EITHER MONETARILY OR INDIRECTLY THROUGH OTHER MEANS SUCH AS FOOD COMING FROM FEMA THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN TO SOME OF THESE. I WILL POINT OUT THAT--

>> COUNCILMEMBER: CHANGE THE DRIVEWAY ON THIS

>> WE WILL BE -- NO, NO, PERFECT QUESTION BECAUSE IT LEADS IN TO WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. WE'VE GONE THROUGH THEIR GRANT APPLICATION. IT ALL LOOKS LIKE IT MEETS THE

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CRITERIA. WE WILL SIT DOWN WITH EACH OF THEM AND GO THROUGH WHAT DOCUMENTATION THEY'RE GOING TO NEED BEFORE THEY EXECUTE THE GRANT AGREEMENT BEFORE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S ALLOWABLE AND WHAT'S NOT.

IN THAT CASE, THEY'LL GET WITH DALE.

THAT'S THE ONE THAT BACKED UP TRAFFIC DOWN ON OUTIN MIDDLEBROOK. THAT'S THE ONE I HAD THE VIDEO OF, FOR THE MILES OF TRAFFIC BACKED UP.

WE'LL MAKE SURE WE DISCUSS EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING IS ALLOWABLE. YOUR CONTRACTOR ON STAFF TO HELP

WITH THESE KINDS OF DECISIONS. >> WHEN PPE WAS ALLOWED TO GO TOWARDS NONPROFITS THAT ARE RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS WITH NO STRINGS ATTACHED. IN FACT, IT WAS CLARIFIED BECAUSE A LOT OF RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS.

THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION CAME OUT AND CLARIFIED VERY CLEARLY.

I WAS ON A WHITE HOUSE CONFERENCE CALL WHEN THEY TALKED ABOUT THIS. IT DOESN'T CHANGE.

THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE CLARIFIED IN LANGUAGE ATTACHED TO THE PPP PROGRAM. I KNOW IT'S TWO SEPARATE FUNDINGS. BUT SIMILAR CONCEPT.

>> AND I WILL SAY ON THESE NONPROFITS, SEVERAL OF THEM ARE DOING THINGS TO NOT ONLY APPROVE FOR TODAY, BUT PROVIDE LONGEVITY. ADDING FREEZER SPACE.

BUYING A TRAILER TO PROMOTE BEING ABLE TO MOVE PRODUCT FROM ONE COUNTY TO THE OTHER. IT'S NOT JUST A ONE-TIME SHOT.

IT'S AN INVESTMENT. I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.

>> IT'S THE BOARD'S PLEASURE. >> YOUR APPROVAL.

YOU ALREADY MOVED. SECOND.

>> I DID. >> YOU MOVED.

WHO IS SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> I'M IN FAVOR. >> THIRD.

>> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE.

>> OPPOSED. NONE.

>> MOVING DOWN TO THE NEXT SECTION.

YOU HAVE THE APPLICATION FOR INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE AND FOR BUSINESS ASSISTANCE. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU GOT A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THE APPLICATION IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS. WE WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH OPENING BOTH THESE PROGRAMS UP ON JULY 27TH, WHICH IS A MONDAY.

WE WILL DO STAGGERED START TIMES JUST TO KIND OF EASE IN TO IT ON

THAT FIRST DAY. >> RIGHT.

>> DO WE HAVE A REVIEW COMMITTEE THAT REVIEWS THESE PEOPLE OR

REVIEWS THE APPLICATIONS? >> WE WILL REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS. WE'RE BRINGING ON STAFF.

>> WHO IS WE? >> I CAN'T TELL YOU WHO THE STAFF IS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BROUGHT THEM ON YET.

THE FINAL REVIEW FOR EVERYTHING IS DONE BY COUNTY STAFF IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CLERK OF THE COURTS OFFICE.

AS WE TALKED ABOUT IN PREVIOUS, WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE CLERKS OFFICE, AMY BRAMLET WHO SITS IN OUR OFFICE SEVERAL DAYS OF THE WEEK TO REVIEW WHAT WE'RE DOING. TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY COMPLIANCY ISSUES. THEY ARE ULTIMATELY GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE AUDIT OF THIS MONEY NEXT YEAR.

>> RIGHT. >> SHE SITS IN THERE.

SHE REVIEWED ALL THE NONPROFIT APPLICATIONS.

SHE'S REVIEWING EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING.

>> NOW THESE TWO APPLICATIONS ARE ONLINE, RIGHT?

>> THEY'RE ONLINE. THEY'RE WRITING THE PROGRAM TO CAPTURE ALL THE INFORMATION FOR US AND WE'LL REVIEW IT ONLINE.

WE'LL SUBMIT IT TO OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

AND THEN THEY'LL CUT THE CHECKS. THE TWO PROGRAMS WILL BE BASICALLY RENT, MORTGAGE, UTILITY ASSISTANCE.

>> AND IT WILL BE BETTER THAN THE STATE OF FLORIDA'S UNEMPLOYMENT APPLICATION PROCESS, RIGHT?

>> YES, SIR. I THINK I WAS GIVEN THAT

DIRECTION CLEARLY. >> THE CHECKS WILL BE GIVEN NOT TO THE INDIVIDUALS BUT TO THE RESPECTIVE AGENCIES THAT THEY

OWE MONEY TO? >> ACTUALLY, NO, SIR.

IT WILL BE GIVEN TO THE INDIVIDUALS PAST DUE OR TO PAY THOSE BILLS. THE STATE OF FLORIDA GAVE US GUIDANCE THAT THEY DIDN'T THINK IT WAS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY TO PROVIDE THEM DIRECTLY.

>> SO WHAT CONTROL DO WE HAVE OVER IT?

>> THE CONTROLS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ARE PROVE TO ME THAT YOU HAD A LOSS FROM COVID. EITHER YOU LOST YOUR JOB AND YOU CAN DOCUMENT IT. YOU WERE FURLOUGHED AND YOU CAN DOCUMENT IT. OR YOU HAD A CUT IN HOURS AND YOU CAN DOCUMENT IT. IT COULD BE IN FEBRUARY I WAS WORKING 40 HOURS AND MY BOSS CUT ME TO 20 HOURS.

I'M NOT CURRENTLY ON UNEMPLOYMENT.

BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DOUBLE. THERE'S DIFFERENT IDEAS OF WHETHER YOU CAN OR CAN'T. WITH UNEMPLOYMENT ENDING AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, AS FAR AS THE EXTRA SUBSIDY THAT'S NOT GOING

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TO BE AS BIG OF AN ISSUE FOR US AS FAR AS THE DOUBLE DIPPING.

AND SHOW US THAT YOU ARE PAST DUE CURRENTLY OR YOU SUCCESSFULLY PAID $1,000 IN BILLS, MORTGAGE, RENT, OR UTILITIES. AND WE WILL ISSUE YOU A CHECK

BACK FOR $1,000. >> WE HAVE NO WAY OF DISCERNING WHETHER THEY PAID THEIR ELECTRIC OR GONE ON VACATION.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> BUSINESS IS A LITTLE EASIER.

>> YES, SIR. >> OKAY.

WE'RE DISCUSSING THE APPLICATION FORMS FOR THE TWO ITEMS THAT WE

WERE JUST BRIEFED ON. >> ONE MORE THING.

>> YES. >> SO THE PLAN CURRENTLY WOULD BE TO RUN THIS PROGRAM. I PUT IN HERE AUGUST 4TH.

IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE SEPTEMBER 4TH.

THE APPLICATION WOULD RUN JULY 27TH TO SEPTEMBER 4TH.

AND THEN WE WOULD SHUT THE PROGRAM OFF AT THAT POINT AND EVALUATE WHERE WE STAND. THE MAIN THING IS KIND OF CLOSING THE END OF THE YEAR BEFORE WE ROLL IT TO THE CLERKS OFFICE. IF THE BOARD SO CHOOSES, WE CAN

REOPEN THE APPLICATION PROCESS. >> GIVEN THAT IT LASTS THAT

LONG. >> GIVEN THAT IT LASTS THAT LONG. YES, SIR.

>> I WAS THINKING OF SOMETHING ELSE.

>> THERE WAS A PHASE ONE AND IN THIS, TROY, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT

THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS IN THERE? >> PHASE ONE WAS $1 MILLION AND $2 MILLION. AS LONG AS WE CAN GET THE MONEY BACK FROM THE STATE, WE IMPLEMENT THE ENTIRE PROGRAM.

IF WE ARE SLOW GETTING THOSE REBATES BACK, THEN WE WOULD HAVE

TO SLOW. >> BOARDS PLEASURE.

>> APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE.

>> SO DONE. >> AND SO THE LAST TWO ITEMS I HAD ON THE LIST WAS WINDOW PRESENTED ABOUT THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT SPACE. IF WE CAN GET SOME DIRECTION ON THAT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER SO THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO LOOK

FOR A FACILITY OR NOT. >> FOR WHAT?

>> FOR THE E-SQUARED INCUBATOR DEVELOPMENT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BOARD'S PLEASURE IS ON THIS.

>> I UNDERSTAND THE MODEL IS THAT THE COUNTY BUYS THE BUILDING, RIGHT? AND DO WE HAVE SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT WITH THE CHAMBER, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES WHO ARE OPERATING THIS. IF THAT'S THE CASE, DO WE NEED TO PUT THAT OUT AS AN RFP OR CAN WE SELECT SOMEBODY TO RUN THIS?

>> I GUESS WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

BUT -- >> BUY THE REST OF THE

BUILDINGS. >> BUY ALL FOUR.

>> WE CAN ALWAYS SELL THEM LATER.

>> A COUPLE OF THEM ARE ALREADY HALF FINISHED.

PERFECT. >> I THINK TROY AND I WOULD HAVE TO WORK ON THAT AND SEE WHAT THE STATE ALSO WOULD ALLOW US.

>> THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. I THINK WENDELL WAS ABLE TO SORT OF FOCUS AT LEAST SORT OF TARGET THOUGHTS AS TO HOW IT WOULD WORK AND THE FACT THAT HE THINKS THERE'S ENOUGH SUPPORT IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT MOVING FORWARD.

WHICH IS MY BIG CONCERN. I'M NOT SURE WHETHER I GUESS WE CAN APPROVE AT LEAST THE CONCEPT TO LOOK FOR BUILDINGS SO THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY A BUILDING AND MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME IDEA AS TO HOW

WE WORK THE REST OF IT. >> YEAH, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO WAIT FOR THE PURCHASE. WE CAN SIMULTANEOUSLY DO IT.

>> THAT WOULD BE MY DESIRE. YOU GIVE US DIRECTION SO WE CAN START THE PROCESS WITH KAREN AND J.J.

WHERE THE PIECE OF PROPERTY WOULD BE SO BE CAN START

BUILDING THIS PROCESS. >> WORST CASE SCENARIO THE COUNTY HAS A BUILDING THAT WE TURN AROUND AND SELL IF WE NEED TO OR USE IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE, IF FOR SOME REASON THE CHAMBER ISN'T ABLE TO PROVIDE THE INCUBATOR LONG-TERM.

BUT I THINK HAVING A PLACE TO FACILITATE, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS RECOVERY, AND ALSO INCUBATION OR WHATEVER THEY'RE GOING TO CALL IT LONGTERM MAKES SENSE. SO I SUPPORT IT.

>> YEAH, AFTER SEEING SOME KIND OF BUSINESS PLAN, I'M A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH IT. AT LEAST THEY FLESHED OUT SOME OF THE NOTES ON IT. WE'RE BUYING THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT BUILDINGS OVER THERE. THERE'S TWO MORE OF THEM AT LEAST. IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A NICE

-- >> COMPLEX.

>> WE COULD MOVE THIS WHOLE OUTFIT OUT THERE.

>> THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS A COMPLEX AT THIS POINT IS TROY.

>> I JUST HAVE A LITTLE SMALL BUILDING, THANK YOU.

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>> THEY GOT 22,000 SQUARE FEET IN JACKSONVILLE.

WE'RE AS GOOD AS THEY ARE, AREN'T WE?

>> THE MOTION THEN TO AT LEAST GIVE THEM THE AUTHORITY TO START

LOOKING. >> APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> AND IS THE CHAMBER CONSIDERED

A NONPROFIT? >> THEY ARE A NONPROFIT.

>> THAT WILL HELP US. >> THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE FOR TROY AND HIS PEOPLE TO START LOOKING FOR A FACILITY.

GET THE DETAILS AND FACTS AND SPECIFICS, AND GET BACK TO US ON IT. WE'LL PULL THE TRIGGER IF EVERYTHING IS GOOD. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> OPPOSED.

THANK YOU. >> I HAVE ONE LAST ITEM.

AND THEN I'LL BE DONE. >> I'VE NEVER SEEN A GUY BE SO

HAPPY TO SPEND $29 MILLION. >> I'M JUST HAPPY TO MEET YOUR CRITERIA, SIR. IN THE FEEDING WE REALIZED, THIS GOES BACK TO THE NONPROFITS A LITTLE BIT.

A NEED FOR DISTRIBUTION CENTERS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

CHALLENGE ENTERPRISES, OF COURSE, IS HANDLING THE MAJOR DISTRIBUTION FOR THE COUNTY. ONE OF THE NONPROFIT APPLICATIONS WAS TO APPROVE FOR THEM TO GET A FREEZER REFRIGERATOR TRAILER. THE OTHER NEED IS IN THE SOUTH END OF THE COUNTY, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A FACILITY THAT CAN BE USED FOR STORAGE THAT THEN CAN BE DISTRIBUTED FROM THERE TO THE VARIOUS FOOD PANTRIES. KEYSTONE HEIGHTS, AND LYNN IS HERE, SHE CAN SPEAK TO IT, HAS A BUILDING THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO RETRO FIT. FIX THE DRIVEWAY, PUT INSULAION IN. PUT REFRIGERATION AND FREEZER SPACE IN. A PLAN FOR A SUBSTATION WHICH WAS NOT ALLOWABLE. THIS PLAN WILL GET THE BUILDING AND SITE APPROVED TO BE A SOUTHERN DISTRIBUTION POINT.

WE WERE SEEKING A GUIDANCE ON THAT PLAN.

>> THEY'VE ALREADY USED IT AS A DISTRIBUTION POINT LAND.

PARTNERING WITH ANSWERS AND THE COUNTY HAS ALREADY USED THAT AS A DISTRIBUTION CENTER. SO IT MAKES SENSE, I THINK.

DO YOU NEED A MOTION ON THAT? >> YES, SIR.

BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN.

IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE.

I WOULD SUGGEST THERE BE A MOTION MADE.

>> THE BUILDING, DID YOU MAKE SURE IT'S IN GOOD SHAPE.

>> THE OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE, THAT MILLION, WE JUST SAID WE'RE

NOT GOING TO SPEND IT -- >> CORRECT, SIR.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE A NET SAVING. >> WE'RE SAVING MONEY.

>> SO WE'RE SAVING MONEY.

>> THAT'S GOVERNMENT MATH RIGHT THERE, RIGHT?

WE'RE SAVING MONEY. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER BULLOCK, CAN YOU

PLEASE RESTATE YOUR QUESTION. >> WHAT KIND OF --

>> IT WAS UTILIZED DURING COVID FOR OUR FOOD DISTRIBUTION OR FOOD STAGING SITE. I SPOKE WITH AN ENGINEER THIS MORNING. WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT EVERYTHING CAN BE RENOVATED QUICKLY. AND UNDER THE COST OF $550,000 SO WE CAN PUT IN AN HVAC SYSTEM AND REQUIRED STORAGE FOR THE

REGIONS, FOR REFRIGERATION. >> THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE HAD TO PUT A LOT IN TO THAT THING.

>> WE TRIED. I'M JUST SAYING.

>> WHAT'S THE SIZE OF THIS BUILDING?

THE DIMENSIONS. >> BELIEVE ME, I SHARE YOUR

FRUSTRATION. >> ROUGHLY.

>> SO THE CAPACITY OF THE BUILDING IS 67 PEOPLE.

I DO NOT KNOW THE DIMENSIONS OF THE BUILDING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I APOLOGIZE.

I KNOW WE WERE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY SEVEN REACH-IN COOLERS WITH TWO REACH-IN FREEZERS.

IT'S A FAIRLY GOOD SIZE. >> MY PROBLEM WITH THIS IS

KEYSTONE BEACH, RIGHT? >> YES, SIR.

>> YOU'RE TAKING A POTENTIALLY VALUABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHICH I GUESS IS WHY IT'S SO EXPENSIVE RIGHT NOW.

AND TAKING IT OFF THE ROLLS FOR ANYBODY TO USE FOR RECREATION.

WHY WOULD WE DO THAT? >> IT CAN BE USED DUAL PURPOSE.

>> NOT IF IT'S FULL OF FREEZERS. >> SO THAT PORTION OF THE BUILDING IS CURRENTLY LOCKED AND NOT ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC FOR RENTAL FACILITIES OR FOR RECREATIONAL USES.

>> WHY NOT? >> THAT'S ACTUALLY USED FOR THE CITY PURPOSES. BEFORE COVID, ON TUESDAYS HOSTED AN AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE. KIDS COULD COME DOWN AND THEY COULD PLAY GAMES AND MEET DEPUTIES AND LOCAL OFFICIALS, AND A PLACE TO HANG OUT AFTER SCHOOL.

THIS IS WHERE WE STORED ALL OF THOSE GOODS.

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ALL OF THE GOODS, ALL OF THE GAMES.

POPCORN, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THAT PORTION HAS BEEN TAKEN OFF LIMITS FOR THE PUBLIC. AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.

ONCE IT'S NOT BEING USED AS A DISTRIBUTION SITE, THEN WE CAN REOPEN IT BACK UP FOR RECREATIONAL PURPOSES.

WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IF ANYTHING WOULD HAPPEN, WE CAN CLOSE DOWN TO THE PUBLIC AND ALLOW OUR NONPROFITS TO COME IN AND DO WHAT THEY DO.

>> AND MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, DURING COVID RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT ALLOWING ANY RENTALS OF ANY OF OUR FACILITIES.

AND SO THIS IS NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS.

>> AND IT WILL ENHANCE IT LONGTERM, THAT'S FOR SURE.

ONCE THINGS GET BACK TO NORMAL, AND YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE USED AS A FOOD DISTRIBUTION CENTER, CERTAINLY.

BUT IT DEFINITELY WILL ENHANCE THE FACILITIES.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, YOU KIND OF HAVE TO, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE AN EVENT THERE, YOU HAVE TO BRING THINGS.

THERE'S NOT REALLY GREAT COLD STORAGE.

>> SEEMS LIKE A BAD PLACE TO HAVE A FOOD DISTRIBUTION CENTER.

BUT I'LL YIELD TO YOU GUYS. YOU, GAVIN.

>> IT'S GOT A NICE PARKING LOT. THAT'S WHAT'S HELPFUL.

>> YEAH, BUT ISN'T THAT POTENTIAL RECREATION AREA?

>> SO THIS WAS THE FIRST FOOD DISTRIBUTION CENTER, MASSIVE FOOD DISTRIBUTION CENTER. AND IN THE COUNTY, ONCE COVID HIT. OUR ON NONPROFITS GOT TOGETHER AND COLLECTED FOOD. WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE COUNTY, THIS IS WHERE THE FOOD DISTRIBUTION TOOK PLACE.

OUR CONCERNS -- OUR ISSUES THAT WE RAN IN TO WAS THE COLD STORAGE. WE HAD TO PARTNER WITH LOCAL AGENCIES SUCH AS CHURCHES AND OUR SCHOOL TO HOUSE THOSE

GOODS. >> OKAY.

>> THE ONLY OTHER POSSIBILITY WOULD BE NEXT, LIKE THE SENIOR CENTER, NEXT TO THE SENIOR CENTER BECAUSE WE OWN THAT BUILDING. THE COUNTY.

SO I GUESS WE COULD REHAB THAT. >> $500,000 SEEMS PRETTY HIGH.

WHY SO HIGH? IS IT WORTH IT?

>> I BELIEVE THAT IT'S WORTH IT. SO YOU'RE TAKING A SHELL OF A BUILDING. WE'RE GOING TO INSULATE THAT.

PUT IN THE HVAC SYSTEM AND PUT IN THE NECESSARY STORAGE.

>> WHO IS GOING TO DO THE WORK? THE CITY IS GOING TO DO IT AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BUY IT? IS THAT THE PLAN?

>> NO, SIR. WE WOULD EXTEND -- WE DID THE INTERLOCALS WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES.

WE WOULD DO AN ADDITIONAL INTERLOCAL WITH THE TOWN FOR $500,000 OR WHATEVER NUMBER WE COME UP WITH.

THEY WOULD ENTER IN TO THAT AGREEMENT.

THEY WOULD DO THE WORK AND THEN THEY WOULD SEEK REIMBURSEMENT.

>> I'LL TELL YOU THE ISSUE I HAVE.

KEYSTONE IS AT THE END OF THE COUNTY.

ANYTHING WE PUT WAY DOWN THERE, IT'S HARD FOR THE REST OF OUR RESIDENTS TO GET AT. I WOULD PREFER TO SEE IT A LITTLE FURTHER NORTH. I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S MY ONLY -- WHEN I WAS ON THE SCHOOL BOARD, I HAD THE SAME ISSUE. AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S A MULTICOUNTY KIND OF DIMENSION DOWN THERE.

BUT IF WE COULD MOVE IT UP SAY HALF WAY TO HERE OR SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE, CLAY HILL, I DON'T KNOW.

IT MIGHT MAKE MORE SENSE. UNLESS THIS IS AN IDEAL SPOT.

HAVE WE LOOKED AT EVERYTHING? >> THE POPULATION, BECAUSE OF CAMP LANDING. IT'S HARD TO MEET IN THE MIDDLE.

UNLESS YOU PUT IT AT THE INTERSECTION OF 21 AND CAMP

LANDING. >> HOW ABOUT AT THE GUN RANGE?

>> YOU WOULD HAVE TO BUILD A NEW BUILDING, UNFORTUNATELY.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS THE REQUIREMENT OF EXISTING BUILDINGS. BECAUSE THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE IF YOU COULD BUILD A NEW BUILDING.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT, AND THEY'RE WITHIN A 5-SQUARE MILE RADIUS OF THE CENTER OF KEYSTONE.

THERE'S A DECENT POPULATION CENTER.

AND A LOT OF NEEDS. >> THERE'S A LOT OF NEED THERE,

I GET THAT. >> SO WHEN WE WERE DOING OUR HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES PUSH TO FEED WHAT WAS GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES THAT PROBABLY NO ONE ACTUALLY SAW WAS THE FACT THAT WE WERE RUNNING A REFRIGERATOR TRUCK AND FREEZER TRUCK MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ONLY WAY TO GET SUPPLIES DOWN THERE. WE HAD TO TAKE IT DOWN THERE, KEEP THE FREEZER TRUCK DOWN THERE.

KEEP THE REFRIGERATOR TRUCK DOWN THERE TO DO DISTRIBUTION OUT OF BECAUSE THERE'S NO FACILITY DOWN THERE.

AS LYNN SAID, WE TRIED TO OFFLOAD TO THE SCHOOLS.

THEY HAD LIMITED SPACE. NO ONE REALLY HAD BIG SPACE.

EVEN GOING FORWARD WITH THE NONPROFITS THAT ARE PUTTING IN SPACE. THEY'RE PUTTING IN ENOUGH TO HANDLE FOR A DAY OR TWO A WEEK. WORTH OF SUPPLY.LING A MONTH'S - WHICH IS WHAT WE INTEND TO HAVE MORE OF A SUPPLY.

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KIND OF A CENTRAL DISTRIBUTION POINT.

>> AND THEN THE CHURCHES. >> AND THE CHURCHES CAN GET THE STUF. THE SAME THING CHALLENGE IS DOING IN THE NORTHERN END OF THE COUNTY.

I'M LOOKING BACK THERE AT YOU, MA'AM.

SO THEY COULD BRING STUFF FROM THERE DOWN TO THE KEYSTON DISTRIBUTION POINT AND KIND OF WORK THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE CONCEPT. >> AND WHAT'S NICE ABOUT IT IS I MEAN, WITHIN THE CITY OF KEYSTONE, THERE'S REALLY LIMITED MEETING SPACE OR ANYTHIN. SO IT DOWN THE ROAD COULD BE USED WITH IT BEING AC. OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW IN FLORIDA, WITHOUT AC IT'S TOUGH TO HAVE TOO MANY EVENTS.

SO IT COULD BE USED AS A MEETING SPACE.

IT REALLY WOULD ENHANCE THE FACILITIES THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS IN ADDITION TO THE CRITICAL FOOD NEED.

OBVIOUSLY, I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT.

>> I'LL MOVE APPROVAL. THEN I GUESS WE WOULD -- SO DO WE NEED TO APPROVE A SPECIFIC AMOUNT?

>> YOU CAN DO UP TO -- >> NOT TO EXCEED $550,000.

>> SO NOT TO EXCEED $550,000. OBVIOUSLY AT SOME OTHER POINT THAT $450,000 WE'RE GOING TO SHIFT IN TO SOME OTHER AREA,

RIGHT? >> WE'LL BRING BACK AS WE GO THROUGH IT, WE'LL BRING BACK A PLAN WHERE WE HAD SAVINGS AT.

>> I'LL SECOND. >> THERE IS A SECOND.

>> YEAH. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> OPPOSED.

SO DONE. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR CARES

ACT. >> BEEN BUSY, HUH?

>> I WILL SAY A COMPLIMENT TO ALL YOUR TEAM.

THE LEGAL TEAM, KAREN'S TEAM, JAMES' TEAM.

THEY'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD TO MAKE ALL THIS HAPPEN BEHIND

THE SCENES. >> HARD TO SPEND THAT MUCH

MONEY. >> A LOT OF WORK.

>> AND THEY ALL CONTINUE DOING THEIR NORMAL JOBS.

>> ITEMS 18, 19, AND 20, AND THEN WE WILL BE THROUGH.

ITEMS 18. WAIT A MINUTE.

>> OH, WELL. DO YOU WANT US TO GO AHEAD AND FINISH AND THEN COME BACK TO YOU AND COURTNEY?

[18. Discussion of Appointment to the Planning Commission]

>> YES, SIR. >> LET'S DO ITEM 18.

AT LARGE POSITION ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

>> AT LARGE. >> AT LARGE.

>> I WOULD PUT IN A HEFTY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE NAME PETER DAVIS. PETE HAS BEEN --

>> CAN'T ARGUE HE DOESN'T HAVE EXPERIENCE.

>> EXACTLY. >> PROBABLY THE MOST EXPERIENCED

PERSON. >> IN 1989.

HE'S BEEN THE CHAIRMAN FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

I THINK HE WOULD BE ABLE TO STEP IN AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT A RAMP UP. I FEEL BADLY BECAUSE BRIAN --

>> I THINK HE'D DO GREAT, TOO. YEAH.

>> BUT I JUST THINK THERE'S SO MANY PROJECTS COMING FORWARD, THAT I THINK PETE DAVIS IS SOMEBODY THAT COULD STEP IN AND

NOT MISS A BEAT. >> PETE IS NOT A BUILDER OR A

REALTOR? >> NO.

HE'S BEEN ON THE FLEMING ALLEN ADVISORY.

>> HE TOOK YOUR JOB. >> HE STOOD OUT TO A NUMBER OF

DIFFERENT THINGS. >> HE'S A VERY REASONED PERSON.

I'LL SECOND THAT. >> THERE'S A MOTION TO SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE.

>> OPPOSED. SO DONE.

[19. Discussion of Appointment to the Lake Asbury Municipal Service Benefit District (LAMSBD)]

ITEM 19. >> THAT'S YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> DEBORAH BARRETT TO REPLACE ONE OF THE MEMBERS WHO DROPPED OFF. SHE WILL BE FILLING THE REST OF

THE PERSON'S TERM. >> I'LL MOVE APPROVAL WITH YOUR

-- IF YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT. >> SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> OPPOSED.

[20. Discussion of Appointment to the Canvassing Board for August Primary and November General Elections]

SO DONE. >> ITEM 20, FOR AUGUST PRIMARY.

YOU NEED TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT?

>> JUST UNDER THE STATUTE, THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IS AUTOMATICALLY A MEMBER.

>> THAT WOULD BE ME. >> ALSO ASSUMING HE CAN SERVE, WHICH OUR CURRENT CHAIR CAN SERVE.

AND THEN WE DO NEED TO HAVE AN ALTERNATE THAT IS APPOINTED.

AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER SALA WOULD BE YOUR OWN OPTION FOR

THAT POSITION. >> EASY-PEASE.

>> SO MOVE. >> SECOND.

>> THERE'S A MOTION FOR THE DELEGATE AND THE --

>> I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED A MOTION.

WE JUST PROBABLY NEED TO AGREE. >> IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT?

[COUNTY MANAGER/CLERK OF THE BOARD]

[04:25:02]

>> SURE. >> SO DONE.

MOVING ON TO COUNTY COMMENDANT FOR COMMENT.

>> JUST TO UPDATE YOU ON THE COMMISSIONER AUDIT POSITION.

IT WAS TWO-FOLDED. ONE A JOB DESCRIPTION AND APPLICATION WENT OUT ON LINKEDIN AND OTHER AREAS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL SAW THAT.

WE HAD VERY GOOD RESPONSE BACK ON THAT.

THERE'S SEVEN APPLICANTS. THREE OF WHICH HOLD A CPA.

SO MORE TO FOLLOW ON THAT. AND I SPOKE TO JENNIFER BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING HERE. SHE'LL MAKE A PACKET, A BINDER TOGETHER FOR EACH ONE OF YOU FOR REVIEW ON THAT.

AND WE COULD POSSIBLY MOVE FORWARD ON THAT AVENUE.

IN PARALLEL, IF YOU REMEMBER THE RFP WENT OUT FOR A FIRM TO LOOK FOR THE HEAD HUNTER, BASICALLY, POSITION.

IT'S DUE AUGUST 3RD, AND IT WILL BE OPEN AUGUST 4TH.

THAT'S THE ONLY UPDATES THAT I HAVE THERE.

WE'VE BEEN GIVEN THE COVID UPDATE BY HEATHER, AND PENDING

ANY QUESTIONS FROM YOU ALL. >> TABULATION ON 21 FOR THE

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. >> YES, SIR.

>> COULD WE MAKE SURE WE BRING THAT TO THE BOARD AND HEAR WHAT

THEY HAVE TO SAY? >> YOU GOT IT.

IN YOUR DIRECTION ON THAT, SIR, I BELIEVE IT WAS THREE APPLICANTS. ONE OF WHICH IS OUT OF TOWN.

TWO ARE LOCAL. I THINK WE'LL BRIEF THAT.

WHAT'S THE PROCESS, KAREN? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ON IT?

>> COMMITTEE HAS NOT MET YET. >> OH, THEY HAVE NOT MET YET.

I'M STEPPING OUT OF BOUNDS. >> PROCEDURALLY, WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE WILL MEET, THEY WILL RANK THEM. THE STAFF ASKS FINANCE TO AUTOMATICALLY REQUEST THEY PRESENT FULL PRESENTATIONS.

>> THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE GUIDANCE, THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO GUESS.

>> THAT'S ALL.

>> COUNTY ATTORNEY.

[COUNTY ATTORNEY]

>> DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THE OPIATE LETTER WE SENT OUT.

WE HAVE ABOUT $90 MILLION TO GAIN AND NOTHING IS GOING ON QUITE YET. AND OUTFIT WENT BANKRUPT?

>> THAT'S WHAT THE EXPERTS CAME UP WITH.

>> I DOUBT WE'LL GET THAT. >> THAT'S WHAT THE EXPERTS CAME UP WITH AS FAR AS FILING YOUR PROOF OF CLAIM.

AS I NOTED IN THE MEMO, THAT'S JUST THAT AMOUNT.

AS IT'S MOVING THROUGH BANKRUPTCY, IF YOU RECEIVE

ANYTHING, YOU WILL -- >> WILL BE HAPPY.

YEAH. >> ONE CAN DREAM.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

>> OKAY. LET'S OPEN UP THE AGENDA TO

PUBLIC COMMENTS. >> SO I RECEIVED AN EMAIL THAT YOU HAVE SOMEONE ON THE LINE. YES.

>> PUT HIM ON. >> GO AHEAD.

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES.

GO AHEAD. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YES. >> I LIKE PINK AND I LIKE MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH. FREE CITIZENS WANT THE AC KEEPS THE GERMS DOWN SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THE SHERIFF DIDN'T ELABORATE ON THAT. BUT THE STAFF LIED EARLIER TODAY. I DID PAY FOR THE AMENSITY OR WHATEVER YOU WANTED TO CALL THAT.

CAN'T EVEN KEEP TRACK OF THE ONE THAT DID, SHE'S LYING.

THE STAFF SAID FOOLING YOU. SHE'S JUST FOOLING THE KID.

SHE SHOULDN'T BE DOING THAT. THE ROAD SAFETY IS THE PRIORITY OF THE ROAD. THE PRIORITY OF THE ROADS IS THE BOARD'S PRIMARY SAFETY OF THIS COUNTY.

THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS VERY BAD IN CLAY AND THE MONIES NEED DOUBLED IN THE QUIGLEY HOUSE AND THE OTHER AREAS.

AMAZING RESOURCES WAS SAID TODAY.

BUT IF YOU LISTEN TO THE CLAY COUNTY BOARD, THERE IS NO AMAZING RESOURCES. YOU GUYS ARE BORROWING

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$129 MILLION THAT YOU SHOULDN'T BE BORROWING TO STICK IN TWO COUNTIES. NOBODY WANTS TO RUN FOR THAT OTHER SEAT. I DON'T BLAME THEM.

LOOK AT THE MESS THAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW.

THE SHERIFF NEEDS BODY CAMERAS ON THESE OFFICERS.

I MEAN, WE AS A CITIZENS DESERVE TO HAVE BODY CAMERAS ON OUR POLICE OFFICERS. SO FUND IT.

TAKE 42 OF THE 48 POLICE CARS AWAY FROM THE SROS AND GIVE THEM TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THE SROS WERE VOTED TO GO TO THE SCHOOLS AND STAY AT THE SCHOOLS. WE DIDN'T PAY THE MONEY FOR THEM TO DRIVE AROUND AND DO STUFF ON THE STREETS.

AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING. I SEE THEM OUT DOING REGULAR PATROL. PITBULL WAS LOOSE TODAY.

IT'S SITTING THERE TRYING TO MAKE MY HOTEL ROOMS AND MY PROPERTY ITS HOME. THIS DOG WAS LOOSE.

IT'S NOT A CIVIL OFFENSE. IT'S AN UNNEUTERED MALE PITBULL RUNNING AROUND ALONG THE HIGHWAY THAT COULD CAUSE AN ACCIDENT.

THEY COULD KILL SOMETHING. KILL SOMEBODY, FOLKS.

THIS ISN'T JUST A CIVIL OFFENSE, THIS IS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE THAT THIS GUY IS EVERY WEEK ALLOWING HIS DOG TO JUST RUN AROUND.

I SENT PICTURES TO BE PUT UP ON MY PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT THE ATTORNEY IS REFUSING TO BE PUT UP.

AND I WANT AN EXPLANATION TO THAT.

I'M GOING TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY TO DEAL WITH CLAY COUNTY.

I'M SICK AND TIRED OF THE WAY THEY ARE TREATING ME.

THERE'S A BLACK MAN IN THERE WHO GOT ONE WORD SAID ABOUT A HAT.

>> MR. OTTO, YOUR TIME IS UP. WE'RE CUTTING YOU OFF AT THIS POINT. CUT HIM OFF.

>> YES, MA'AM. YU HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> YEAH. >> YES, PLEASE.

COME ON UP. >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY HELLO.

WE WERE LISTED AS A PARTNER ON THE NEW INCUBATOR PROJECT.

O I FELT LIKE I SHOULD MAYB CLARIFY IN WHAT WE SEE OUR ROLE AS BEING IN THAT PROJECT. A LOT OF MY COLLEAGUES AROUND THE STATE ARE WORKING WITH THEIR SMALL COUNTIES GETTING CARES ACT FUNDING TO BE THE PRIMARY RESOURCE FOR THESE BUSINESSES THAT GET GRANTS. AND TURN YOUR BUSINESS AROUND, PIVOT IN TIMES OF NEED. WE HAVE ALSO RECEIVED CARES ACT MONEY. WE HAVE HIRED 20 SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS THAT WILL PROVIDE SUPPLY CHAIN MANAGEMENT, CASH FLOW MANAGEMENT, SUPPLY ASSISTANCE, ALL KINDS OF THINGS LIKE THAT.

I KNOW YOU KNOW CHRIS WHO IS IN YOUR COUNTY.

HE'S FULL-TIME DEVOTED TO CLAY COUNTY.

HE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE 20-SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.

AS WELL AS TO OUR 14 FULL-TIME BUSINESS CONSULTANTS IN OUR CENTER AND REGION. BUT WE'RE INTERESTED IN EXISTING BUSINESSES. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE CLARIFY THAT. WE'D LOVE TO HAVE OFFICE SPACE THERE TO DO CONSULTING. IT WOULD BE PERFECT FOR US AND ACCESS TO BUSINESSES. BUT WE'RE NOT FOCUSED ON PRE-VENTURES AND PEOPLE LOOKING TO START BUSINESSES.

WE REALLY WANT TO WORK WITH EXISTING BUSINESSES.

65% OF OUR CONSULTING IS WITH BUSINESSES WITH THREE YEARS OR MORE IN BUSINESS. SO THAT'S OUR SWEET SPOT.

OR ROI. BUT I'LL REMIND YOU THAT CLAY COUNTY IS NOT OUR PARTNER ANYMORE.

THEY DID NOT PROVIDE THE MINIMUM MATCHING DOLLARS TO HAVE CHRIS FULL TIME IN THE COUNTY. SO WE NEED A $33,000 INVESTMENT.

AND MAYBE THE CARES ACT MONEY CAN PROVIDE THAT INVESTMENT SO WE CAN PUT IN $78,000 IN FEDERAL AND STATE MONEY TO KEEP HIM IN CLAY COUNTY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO CLARIFY THAT. WE ARE GRATEFUL TO BE IN CLAY COUNTY. WE WILL ALWAYS SERVE CLAY COUNTY. BUT WE WANT CHRIS TO BE HERE FULL TIME. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

>> ARE YOU COMMUNICATING WITH WENDELL, I ASSUME ON THIS.

>> WE REALLY HAVEN'T COMMUNICATED THAT MUCH.

BUT I HAVE TALKED -- YES, WE'VE TALKED SEVERAL TIMES.

AND ALSO WITH SOME OTHERS ABOUT HOSPITALITY, ET CETERA.

>> THEY'RE REALLY HURTING RIGHT NOW.

>> YES. >> WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN STRUCTURE THAT. BUT IT WILL BE A CARES ACT ELIGIBLE EXPENSE. WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW THAT FUNDING MECHANISM WOULD WORK TO SAY WE'RE PAYING FROM NOW UNTIL DECEMBER 30TH. AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS AFTER DECEMBER 30TH, THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

>> AS I HEARD YOU MENTION THAT YOU COULD -- BECAUSE THE COVID

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RESULTS COULD CARRY ON IN TO NEXT YEAR, WE COULD CERTAINLY CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT ASSISTANCE.

>> YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE ASSISTANCE BUT THE DOLLARS

GO AWAY DECEMBER 30TH. >> RIGHT.

I'M SURE WE COULD CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT ASSISTANCE FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME. I WAS ALREADY ABLE TO RAISE $14,000 JUST FROM TWO FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS.

AND KEYSTONE HEIGHTS ALWAYS GIVES US A CONTRIBUTION TOWARD THE PROGRAM. SO I WAS ABLE TO RAISE THAT TO KEEP US HERE FROM OCTOBER 1ST UNTIL NOW.

>> OKAY. >> I DID WANT TO MENTION TO YOU THAT I JUST PULLED THE NUMBERS TODAY.

THERE ARE 2,025 SMALL BUSINESSES IN CLAY COUNTY THAT GOT PPPS FOR LESS THAN $150,000. 2,025.

IT TOTALS $65.4 MILLION. AND THERE WERE 228 THAT GOT $150,000 PLUS. FOR UP TO -- WELL THEY DON'T GET THE AMOUNTS, THEY ONLY GET RANGES.

THOSE ARE THE TARGETS WE WANT TO WORK WITH.

WELL YOU GOT THE PPP. NOW HOW ARE YOU GOING TO STAY IN

BUSINESS NOW THAT THAT'S OUT. >> VERY GOOD.

THANKS FOR STAYING SO LONG. >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> HI. I KNOW MOST OF YOU UP HERE.

I'M DANA HIESLER. I OWN HIESLER STUDIOS.

I AM ONE OF THE BUSINESSES THAT DID NOT GET PPP MONEY.

IT WAS DENIED ME IN SEVERAL WAYS.

I DID HIT A POINT WHERE I FINALLY FIGURED OUT HOW I COULD GET PPP MONEY BUT IT WOULD NOT BE A GRANT, IT WOULD BE A LOAN.

AND I CHOSE NOT TO GET IN TO BUSINESS FURTHER.

WITH THE HELP OF CHRIS ABBOTT AND THE CHAMBER,I'VE HAD TO MAKE HARD FINANCIAL DECISIONS, BUT MY BUSINESS WILL SURVIVE AND IT WILL MOVE FORWARD. AND WHEN YOU GUYS POUR IN TO THINGS LIKE THE INCUBATOR AND CHRIS, THAT HELPS US MOVE FORWARD AND THAT HELPS US BE PROFITABLE AND PUT BACK IN TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND I THINK THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE DONE HERE TODAY REALLY SHOWS US THAT YOU WANT US HERE AND DON'T WANT US TO GO TO A NEIGHBORING COUNTY.

BECAUSE SOMETIME IT FELT THAT WAY AT TIMES.

I KNOW THESE ARE HARD DECISIONS. BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AND TELL YOU THAT WE REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.

AND ON THE KEYSTONE, I GREW UP THERE.

I LEARNED HOW TO SWIM THERE. AND FOR YOU TO POUR IN TO A PIECE OF LAND AND A BUILDING THAT MEANS SO MUCH TO THAT COMMUNITY IN A WAY THAT CAN HELP DURING THESE CRISIS EVENTS, BUT ALSO CAN BE A POSITIVE THING FOR KEYSTONE, I THINK THAT THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD CHOICE. SO I'M DANA WITH HIESLER

STUDIOS. >> THANK YOU, DANA.

ANYONE ELSE? YES, SIR.

>> HI, I'M MARK SAX. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT 9 YEARS. SBDC AND THE CHAMBER HAVE BEEN MY BOARD OF DIRECTORS. I CAME FROM AN INDUSTRY WHERE I COULDN'T GO TO MY PEERS AND SAY HOW CAN I DO THIS? THAT'S THE ONLY HELP WE HAVE HERE FOR COMPANIES LIKE MYSELF THAT NEED A FULL RANGE. WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GET IT? THESE ARE THE EXPERTS THAT HAVE ALL THE TOOLS THAT HAVE ALLOWED US TO BE SUCCESSFUL FOR THE LAST EIGHT OR NINE YEARS.

WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CARES ACT.

AND ITEM MONEY THAT WE'VE RECEIVED.

ONE PHONE CALL TO SBDC AND THEY BOOKS PEOPLE AND WE GET THE - ANSWERS WE NEED RIGHT HERE IN THIS COUNTY.

TO SEE HIM GO AWAY OR THIS PROGRAM GO AWAY TO WHERE HE'S HERE ONE DAY A WEEK WOULD BE DEVASTATING TO COMPANIES LIKE ME AND MANY OTHERS THAT JANICE MENTIONED THAT GOT $150,000 AND BELOW. WE'RE THE ONES THAT NEED THE EXPERTISE AND THE HELP. AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR Y'ALL TO EMBRACE KEEPING CHRIS AND THIS PROGRAM HERE.

BECAUSE IT'S ESSENTIAL. THEY ARE ESSENTIAL TO BUSINESSES. SO THANK YOU.

>> VERY GOOD. >> THANK YOU, MARK.

>> ANYONE ELSE? PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]

WE'LL CLOSE THAT AND GO TO FINAL COMMENTS BY THE COMMISSIONERS.

>> FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT MASKS.

WHEN I WAS, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN OUT OF TOWN HERE FOR A LITTLE BIT. SO I COULD SEE HOW OTHER STATES ARE DEALING WITH THIS. WHILE I'VE PUBLICLY SAID I'M AGAINST A BLANKET MASK POLICY, YOU KNOW, MAKING PEOPLE WEAR THEM. IT DAWNED ON ME THAT A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES THAT I WENT TO OUT OF STATE REQUIRED YOU TO WEAR A MASK OR THEY WOULDN'T LET YOU IN.

[04:40:01]

THAT TAKES THE ONUS OFF THE GOVERNMENT AND PUTS IT IN TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR. I WONDER WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH OUR OWN EMPLOYEES HERE AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.

WE HAVE AREAS WHERE WE DEAL WITH THE PUBLIC LIKE TAX COLLECTOR AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I'M THINKING MAYBE WE SHOULD ASK OUR EMPLOYEES TO WEAR A MASK WHEN THEY'RE DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC AT SOME LEVEL. AND AS A BUSINESS.

AND NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRE OUR CITIZENS TO WEAR THEM, NECES NECESSARILY.

BUT WE'RE THE EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNTY.

AND THE MODE OF KEEPING THEM SAFE AND EVERYBODY ELSE.

I'M THINKING WE OUGHT TO DISCUSS THAT.

THE OTHER THING I HAD WAS TRAINING.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THREE NEW COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ROLL IN HERE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. THERE WAS A TRAINING PROGRAM THAT I WENT THROUGH WHEN I WAS A NEWBIE.

AND IT WOULD CERTAINLY SAVE SOME WEAR AND TEAR.

>> NOMINATE COMMISSIONER BOARD. I HAD THAT UP TO BE THE CHIEF

PROFESSOR. >> WE HAD THE SAME THING WHEN WE

PULL SOMETHING TOGETHER HERE. >> I AGREE, IT WAS HELPFUL.

>> WE HAD COMMISSIONER HENDRY AND I ATTENDED THE SAME THING.

I STILL HAVE THE NOTEBOOK. I'D BE GLAD TO GIVE IT TO THE COUNTY MANAGER SO HE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

>> DEATH BY POWERPOINT. >> Y'ALL MAKE ME FEEL PROUD.

THAT WAS MY IDEA. >> COME IN AS A GUEST LECTURER.

>> LOOK HOW WELL YOU TURNED OUT. >> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> THAT WILL DO. >> COMMISSIONER SALA.

>> I THINK BEFORE WE COME TO MEET, WE JUST GET HOWARD TO WEIGH ON EMPLOYEES AND THE MASKS.

>> YES, SIR. IT'S TWO-FOLD.

AND WE'VE TALKED FROM THE BEGINNING.

WE'VE REENGAGED ON THIS AND I'VE BRIEFED THE BOARD BEFORE ON IT.

IF YOU FELT UNSAFE IN SOME WAY. ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC, WE'VE GONE OUT. WE'VE SCREENED INDIVIDUALS COMING TO THE BOARD ROOM THROUGH TEMPERATURES.

HIGHLY ENCOURAGED. WE'VE ALSO INSTALLED PLEXIGLAS SHIELDS. IF YOU GO TO THE THIRD FLOOR, THE PLEXIGLASS SHIELDS ARE THERE.

ALSO THE TAX COLLECTOR. IF A RESIDENT COMES IN, ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY COMES IN AND THEY ASK FOR A MASK TO BE PUT ON, THEN THE EMPLOYEE SHOULD ACCOMMODATE AND PUT THE MASK ON, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE BOARD. I JUST WANT FOLKS TO FEEL SAFE AT ALL TILMES. WITH THAT, MAKE SURE HAND SANITIZER IS AVAILABLE. AND THEIR STAFF IS OUTFITTED CORRECTLY WITH SOAP AND PAPER TOWELS.

>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE BEST AS OPPOSED TO JUST BLANKET MANDATE AS HAVING ONE AVAILABLE. THAT'S WHAT I DO.

I TAKE ONE AROUND IN MY POCKET. IF SOMEBODY FEELS UNCOMFORTABLE, I PUT IT ON. BUT I DON'T,THEN, YOU KNOW.

BECAUSE THEN THERE'S ALL KINDS OF ADA ISSUES.

>> THERE ARE. >> CERTAIN HEALTH CHALLENGES.

>> IF THAT'S OKAY. IF IT PLEASES THE BOARD, I'LL PUT THAT OUT TOMORROW IN OUR DEPARTMENT HEAD MEETING.

AGAIN, IT'S TO ACCOMMODATE THE PUBLIC IN THAT.

WE'VE BEEN VERY ACCOMMODATING HERE FOR OUR TEAM MEMBERS, TOO.

THOSE THAT NEED TO WORK FROM HOME OR FEEL UNSAFE.

>> ANYTHING ELSE, COMMISSIONER SALA.

>> I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THAT THE SHERIFF ATTENDED TODAY'S MEETING. ORIGINALLY WE DIDN'T THINK THAT HE WAS. HE WAS VERY AMENABLE TO THE BOARD IN TERMS OF ANSWERING QUESTIONS ABOUT DIFFERENT BUDGET AND LINE ITEMS. I HOPE HE STAYS AMENABLE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL WHERE HE HASN'T BEEN SO NICE TO US.

I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. WE ALWAYS CONDUCT OURSELVES IN A VERY PROFESSIONAL MANNER. I KNOW WE'LL WORK SOMETHING OUT TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE TAXPAYERS.

THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT'S NOT OUR BUDGET.

IT'S NOT THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET. WHATEVER WORKS TO KEEP US MOVING FORWARD. AND AT THE SAME TIME DEALING WITH WHAT IS GOING TO BE A DIP IN REVENUES.

OBVIOUSLY WE SAW FROM A NUMBER OF CONSTITUTIONALS THAT THEY WERE ON BOARD WITH THAT IDEA. SO I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THAT HE WAS HERE. AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL KEEP A DOOR AND A PHONE LINE OPEN SO THE COUNTY MANAGER CAN WORK WITH HIM TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND S SO-CALLED BUILDING MAINTENANCE ISSUES.

OTHER THAN THAT, I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT WHAT TROY AND HIS GROUP AND OUR STAFF HAVE DONE WITH THIS WHOLE CARES ACT HANDLING. ALL THE RFPS AND OTHER THINGS

[04:45:03]

THAT ARE GOING THROUGH JUST REGULAR ROUTINE KIND OF STUFF.

THE PLAN WAS LAID OUT AND WE'RE FOLLOWING THAT PLAN.

AND I THINK THE COUNTY WILL BE MUCH BETTER OFF WHEN WE GET TO THE END OF THAT PLAN BASED ON WHERE WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY AND HOW WE'RE SEEING THAT WE'RE MOVING PEOPLE AHEAD.

THEY MAY NOT NOTICE THAT. WE ARE GETTING THERE.

I WAS ESPECIALLY PLEASED FOR OUR NONPROFITS THAT GOT $500,000.

AWARDED TO THEM. AND THEY'LL BE HOPEFULLY PUTTING THAT TO USE VERY SOON.

>> MA -- MADAME. >> YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH YOUR TEAM. PLEASE CONVEY ANYBODY ON THE TEAM OUR DEEP APPRECIATION. WHEN I SAY IT'S HARD TO SPEND THE MONEY IT'S BECAUSE IT'S GOVERNMENT MONEY.

AND YOU ARE HAVING TO GO THROUGH MANY, MANY HOOPS TO GET IT DONE PROPERLY. I DON'T WANT YOUR TEAM TO THINK THAT IT GOES UNNOTICE. I JUST WANT TO SAY TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, YOU ALL MAKE ME VERY PROUD TO BE A PART OF THIS BOARD. I APPRECIATE YOU, CHAIRMAN, MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE CONDUCT THEMSELVES APPROPRIATELY HERE.

AND I THINK YOU DID AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB TONIGHT WITH

THAT. >> THANK YOU.

>> AND IT'S JUST, THERE WAS A LOT OF GOOD THINGS THAT WE ACCOMPLISHED TONIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE OF CLAY COUNTY.

AND THAT FELT REALLY GOOD. SO THANK YOU Y'ALL.

>> I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING IN TERMS OF THANKS TROY AND TEAM.

I TALKED TO THE COUNTY MANAGER ABOUT THIS A WHILE BACK.

BUT GIVEN THE PROPENSITY THERE IS OUT THERE THESE DAYS TO TEAR DOWN THINGS, UNFORTUNATELY. WE'VE LOOKED IN TO THE SECURITY OF THE FALLEN WARRIORS MEMORIAL, RIGHT? IN TERMS OF CAMERAS, MAYBE ADDITIONAL.

I DON'T WANT TO WAKE UP ONE MORNING AND SEE ON FACEBOOK THAT THAT THING HAS BEEN VANDALIZED OR DAMAGED IN ANY WAY.

I ALMOST WANT TO GO OUT THERE AND TAKE SHIFTS GUARDING IT.

ME AND COMMISSIONER HENRY OR WHOEVER.

I WOULD JUST SAY IF WE CAN KIND OF PUT IN A PLAN AND FIGURE OUT WAYS TO ENHANCE THAT SECURITY GIVEN THE RISK TO THAT AND JUST HOW MUCH THAT MEANS TO OUR FALLEN HEROES ACROSS THE COUNTY.

>> VERY GOOD. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> GOOD POINT. >> OKAY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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