Jun 02, 2020 Planning Commission

[Pledge of Allegiance]

[Call to Order]

[1.  Approval of Minutes]

[1.  Public Hearing To Consider Rezoning Application PUD-20-01 and DRI Amendment 20-01 (Request Motion to Continue)]

[2.  Public Hearing to Consider Amendments to Land Development Code Article II, Pertaining to Subdivision Permitting and Certificates of Occupancy (continued from May 5, 2020 Planning Commission Meeting)]

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DEVELOPERS? WHAT IS GOING ON? >> HIS DEPARTMENT DOES

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INSPECTIONS. >> THE ANSWER IS YES TO ALL

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THEY APPROVED 70 CEOS, TOLD HOMEOWNERS IN BEFORE CHRISTMAS. THESE GUYS WORKED HARD BECAUSE THEY START REALLY TOO EARLY. THE PICTURE SHE SHOW, START THAT MODEL HOME BEFORE ANY OF THE STRUCTURE. THE POND THAT LOOKED LIKE THAT FINISHED, BETH.

LOOKS LIKE IT IS COMPLETE. I HAVE DEVELOPMENT NOW, THANK GOODNESS LIVE AT.

WE ARE SO FED UP WITH IT, TURN ON ENGINEER OF RECORD, NOT PROVING ANYTHING.

IT IS PRIVATE, IT IS YOURS. POURED AND PATCHED IN PLACES AND PLACES.

NOT GOING TO HAVE A PART OF IT. >> ISN'T THERE A DEVELOPER BOND IN PLACE, DO WE USE BOND MONEY

TO FINISH? >> THEY BUILT THE MOVEMENTS, BEFORE WE ACCEPTED WE COULD GO IN AND DO IT. VERY HONESTLY, ABOUT 50 YEARS I ONLY PULLED ONE BOND.

ONCE YOU HAVE A BOND PULL, NEVER GET ANOTHER BOND. IT IS A HAMMER, NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD MESS WITH AS A STAFF. WHAT SHE EXPLAINED, THE DEVELOPMENT, THE BUILDER, TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES. MOST DEVELOPERS GET WORKS DONE FOR SELLING BOX TO HOMEOWNERS.

DEVELOPER, HOMEBUILDER COMBINATION. USUALLY TWO CORPORATIONS.

THERE ARE HOMES BEING BUILT. INFRASTRUCTURE. INSPECTORS HAVE TO GO OUT.

WE GO OUT AND LOOK AT IT. TELL THEM WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.

GUESS WHAT? SOMETHING ELSE NEEDS TO BE FIXED.

I CAN SHOW YOU FIND EXAMPLES OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. >> YOU TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER

ISSUES WITH THE BUILDER 'S HOUSE COMPLETED. >> I STARTED OFF WITH THAT.

>> AN ISSUE WE HAVE. ALLOW US TO MOVE INTO THE HOUSE, NOT GETTING THE ANSWER.

>> I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN ABOUT AFFECTING EVERYBODY ONE OR WO BAD ACTORS.

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IT AFFECTS EVERY DEVELOPER AND BUILDER. >> IT IS MORE THAN ONE, LESS

THEN SIX.IG ACTORS. >> I WOULD OPEN FOR THE REST OF COMMISSIONERS, CAN WE NOT JUST

NOT ISSUE CEO? BUILDINGS ARE BUILT. >> I'M GOOD IN GOING TO BE THE .

I CANNOT GET MY CO FROM COUNTY. HOMEOWNERS START CALLING US. I'M NOT GOING TO PUNISH A HOMEOWNER. LIKE I SAID, THEY DID LIKE I SAID, THEY DID 74 1 AND QUITE A FEW FOR ANOTHER MAJOR DEVELOPER. LAST TO HAVE-3 WEEKS.

>> I THINK IT WOULD BE REASONABLE TO SAY, NOT BECAUSE THE BIBB COUNTY.

THE SAME CONGLOMERATE HAVE NOT DONE, FINALIZING GET APPROVALS. WITH THAT, OPEN TO THE REST OF

COMMISSIONERS. >> I AM GOING TO RESPOND TO THAT COMMENT.

DON'T ISSUE CEO. TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEM. I AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PROBLEM I SEE A LOT OF TIMES, PROBABLY SALESPEOPLE, REAL ESTATE, AND OF COURSE PEOPLE SELLING HOUSES. YOU ALL KNOW WHERE SLEEPY HOLLOW IS.

A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THE COUNTY WANTED TO BUILD ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY ON THE PROPERTY. THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED IN SUBDIVISION, I DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD BUILT, A SWAMP NEXT TO SWEEP THE HOLLOW. CAME OUT IN MASS ABOUT PROBLEMS OF HAVING ANIMAL CANDLES NEXT TO THE HOMES. SEVERAL GET TO THE PODIUM, MY REAL ESTATE PERSON TOLD ME WHAT ABOUT THIS PROPERTY, NEVER BE ANYTHING BILL BACK THERE.

DON'T MAKE THIS PROMISE. WITH THE COUNTY WHAT TO DO, PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA.

A BETTER FACILITY FOR THE ANIMALS. I DO NOT THINK SAYING TO SOMEONE, REALLY THE DEVELOPER. THEY DO NOT CARE. WHO ISSUES A CERTIFICATE, IT'S THE COUNTY. AND THAT SHE GET PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FRONT, AND TO THE ROADS ARE

FINISHED, WHATEVER. A DEVELOPER THING. >> TWO YEARS AGO, ASPHALT, FIRST CAME ON BOARD. WALK INTO SUBDIVISIONS TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE HOMEBUILDERS ÃNOBODY WANTS TO PUT GENERATORS, ON THE ROAD. YOU PUT OUTRIGGER OUT ON RADIO ASPHALT ROAD, 18 INCH SQUARE DEPRESSED. WE HAD A NEW SUBDIVISION MY FIRST COUPLE OF MONTHS ABOUT EVERY 50- 75 FEET. WHAT CAN WE DO TO STOP THAT? SO HOMEOWNERS CAN MOVE INTO THIS SUBDIVISION. LIME ROCK, TURN UP,: 80 PERCENT. DEVELOPER PUT FINAL COAT OF SPHALT.

WE HAVE TO PROTECT EVERYBODY. THE GOOD GUYS GET HER WITH BENEFITS.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS TWO LIFT SYSTEM. WALK-THROUGH AND EXPLAIN THE

FIRST LEFT AND WENT SECOND LIFT GOES IN. >> ONE LEFT SYSTEM, BEFORE YOU BUILD A SUBDIVISION. SIXES IS OF LYME. INCH AND AND A HALF OF ASPHALT.

ASPHALT NEEDS TIME TO CURE. BUILDERS GET IN, START BUILDING.ASOLINE, DIESEL FUEL, HEAVY TRUCKS, BRING ASPHALT. STARTS COMING UP.

LEAD TO THE LIME ROCK. WE WERE MILLING AND RESURFACING.

THE SOLUTION, STOLE FROM ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. WITHOUT 6 INCHES OF LYME, THREE-QUARTER INCH LIFT OF ASPHALT. LET SUBDIVISION BUILDOUT ARGUED THE 80 PERCENT OR TWO YEARS, WHICHEVER HAPPENS FIRST. BRING BUILDER BANKING, FINAL

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LAYER OF ASPHALT. LOOKS LIKE A NEW SUBDIVISION. >> WHAT WE HAVE THAT BOND TO

MAKE SURE THEY COME BACK AND DO IT? >> MAKE SURE THEY COME BACK TO DO. WE SPENT A YEAR AND HALF ON A SUBDIVISION.

EAGLE HARBOR. ALL OF A SUDDEN CAME IN AND HAD A MEAL, UNDER THE SYSTEM.

SOMEBODY TOLD THEM, PATCHES NEW SUBDIVISION DEVALUED PROPERTY 20-25 5 PERCENT.

THEY WERE LIVID. WE TRY TO MODIFY OUR PROCESS TO MAKE IT EASIER ON DEVELOPERS.

AND GIVE THE CITIZENS PRODUCT THEY DESERVE. >> DALE, WHEN IT SAYS ACCEPTANCE OF INFRASTRUCTURE WITH MS BU BY BCC, YOU WANT TO USE IT AS TRIGGER FOR PERMITS, WHAT HAPPENS IF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS DAMAGED AFTER THAT OINT?

>> WHAT WE ARE ASKING TO HAVE BEEN FARTHER ALONG THE DEVELOPMENT TOWARD THE END OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE NEW HOUSE ENDS THE SAME TIME. WE WANT THE DEEP SEWER PLAN, STORM DRAINS AND, THE WATER AND REUSE LINES IN. PUSH TO GET CABLE UTILITIES, GIVE US A PLAN TO PUT IN AT ONE TIME. GET THAT IN, COMPACT, TOWARD THE GROUND IS HARD. ISSUE WILLING PERMITS. HOUSES TAKE ABOUT THREE MONTHS.

THAT .3-4 MONTHS WHEN YOU'RE FINISHED WITH THE SUBDIVISION. AND IT IS SAME TIME.

IF YOU LOOK AT, NOT GOING TO GET A CO IF THEY START ANY EARLIER.

>> WHAT IT YOU HAVE SAME PROBLEM TEARING UP ROADS AND CURVES? IF THE NET CARE OF HOUSES,, WITH CONCRETE TRUCKS AND THINGS ARE DOING DAMAGE?

>> TWO LIFT SYSTEM NOW, TAKE CARE OF ASPHALT DAMAGE. HEAVY STUFF WILL BE DONE BEFORE THE PUT THE CURVES DOWN. YOU POUR A CURVE, DON'T LOAD IT FOR A WHILE.

LONGER YOU CAN GO BEFORE YOU CROSS IT, WITH A DUMP TRUCK CONCRETE TRUCK, BETTER IT IS

GOING TO BE. >> JOE, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >> YEAH, MY QUESTION WAS, DOES ANY OF THIS AFFECT BUILDERS THAT BUILD SPEC HOMES? AND HOMES FOR RENT? SEVERAL DEVELOPERS TAKING SUBDIVISIONS AND BUILDING, MULTIPLE HOMES FOR RENT, DOES

THIS AFFECT THEM IN ANY WAY? >> THEY DO NOT GET SCO UNTIL ACCEPTED BY THE COUNTY.

ACCEPTANCE PROCESS STAYS THE SAME. NOT HAVING PROCESSES BUILT SITTING TWO OR THREE MONTHS. WE GOT PUSHED SO HARD LAST YEAR.

WITH PEOPLE LIVING IN HOUSES Ã SUBDIVISIONS ÃTHE COUNTY HAD NOT ACCEPTED.

WE VIOLATED OUR OWN RULES. I DID NOT WANT TO PUNISH RESIDENTS BECAUSE OF DEVELOPER, HOMEBUILDER WHAT THEY WERE PROMISED.> THE BIG THING IS, IS A HOMESTEAD EXTENSION.

>> PUSHED FOR DECEMBER 31. >> ANY OF THE QUESTIONS, >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

QUESTION, A NEW PROBLEM, >> IT'S NOT A NEW PROBLEM. SEEMS IT HAS INCREASED.

>> OKAY. >> MY COMMENT IS, I GO ALONG WITH COMMISSIONER, IF IT IS ONE OR TWO, USE THE HAMMER. MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND THE HAMMER IS ALREADY THERE.

I DON'T LIKE PUNISHING EVERYBODY BECAUSE A FEW PEOPLE DO NOT ABIDE BY THE WAY THE LAW IS WRITTEN. WHEN IN COURT, I ALSO SEE WHERE YOU DO NOT WANT TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT. NOT DEVELOPER OR BUILDER, 5- 15, 30 RESIDENTS IN A NEW DEVELOPMENT, COUNTING ON THINGS HAPPEN FOR SURGEON TIME. THEIR LIFE WILL GET TURNED UPSIDE DOWN IF THEY WERE PROMISED TOLD. [INDISCERNIBLE] HASN'T

HAPPENED. >> I HAVE A CLOSING ON THE HOUSE.

MOVE INTO A HOTEL. YEAH. >> ABSOLUTELY.

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>> WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE END TIME. THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE SAME POINT. ASKING TO MOVE CERTAIN. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO BUILD

A NORMAL HOUSE? >> 90 HAVING 20 DAYS. >> FOUR MONTHS.

THEY WILL NOT BE FINISHED WITH SUBDIVISION FOR A YEAR. THANK GOODNESS A MODEL HOME.

THEY STARTED BEFORE THEY STARTED ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE. IT BROKE ALL THE RULES ON THAT

ONE. >> THEY CANNOT DO THAT. >> YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS. WE ARE NOT ADDING ONE MORE DAY TURN THE POWER ON TO THAT

HOUSE. START TO -3-4 MONTHS LATER. >> PLAN ON DEVELOPER AND

BUILDER TO START. >> THAT'S RIGHT. BETTER COMMUNICATION BETWEEN

DEVELOPER, BUILDER AND SALESFORCE. >> THANK YOU.

>> MUCH FOR THE CHAIRMAN. AN AREA YOU OF KNOWLEDGE. >> A LITTLE BIT.

>> SO, IT SEEMS REASONABLE WHAT COUNTY IS ASKING FOR. I HAVE THE SAME CONCERN YOU DO, DO NOT WANT TO PUNISH ANYBODY LIKE BUILDERS OR WHATEVER. IT'S WHAT THE COUNTY IS PROPOSING REALLY AFFECT ÃLET ME ASK TWO WAYS. BECAUSE YOU OF SMALL BUILDERS WHO DO SO MANY HOUSES A YEAR. TYPICALLY DO NOT DO OR BUILDERS DO NOT DO DEVELOPMENT, BY LOTS.

CUSTOM HOMEBUILDERS SIMILAR, ON THE PROPERTY OR BY THE LOT. IT SEEMS LIKE THE DEVELOPER IS NOT OFFERING LOTS TO A BUILDER UNTIL THIS POINT IN PROCESS ANYWAYS, NOT AFFECTING SMALL BUILDERS. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HIS BIG CORPORATE BUILDERS.

THE ONES THAT SEEM TO BE BAD ACTORS. FIGURE THE FINES ARE CHEAPER OF DOING BUSINESS ETC. AIMED AT THEM. DO YOU SEE THAT?

>> I THINK I KNOW WHO WON OF THE BAD ACTORS MIGHT BE. FALL IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU DESCRIBED, NATIONAL. IF MY INFORMATION IS CORRECT. THE PROBLEM DIFFERENT THAN THAT. WE HAVE AFFORDABILITY ISSUE. IN THE COUNTRY, THE STATE, CERTAINLY IN OUR AREA. FOLKS ARE LOOKING FOR HOUSING. FOLKS ARE LOOKING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. NOW TO CONSTRAIN FOR A BOLDER TO GO IN FOR EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME TO START THEIR MODEL HOME FOR THE SPEC HOME, CONCERNING TO ME.

NOW JUST ADDED THAT MUCH MORE TIME TO THE WHOLE PROCESS, A 10 UNITS, RIGHT?

>> WE HAVE NOT STOPPED MODEL HOME.OT CHANGING TIMELINE. MODEL HOME STARTS, GET APPROVED

PLANS START MODEL HOME. >> UP TO 10.>> UP TO THREE PER BUILDER.

>> MAY I INTERJECT OR ASK SOMETHING? PRIOR TO THIS PARTICULAR LANGUAGE, MAJORITY OF BUILDERS AND SO FORTH, ARE THE FOLLOWING PROTOCOLS WITHOUT THEM BEING IN

WRITING YET? >> SOME OF THE SMALLER BUILDERS THAT ARE NOT DEVELOPERS, THEY ARE WAITING TO SAW OFF THE BLOCKS FOR HOMEBUILDERS. A LOT OF IT CORPORATE BUILDERS.

A PUSH FOR CASH FLOW OR ANYTHING ELSE. TO START 50 HOUSES KNOWING THE WAY THE HOUSES ARE NOW, A YEAR BEFORE YOU HAVE FIRST CLOSING. INVEST MONEY AND SITTING THERE

FOR 4-5 MONTHS FOR RETURN. >> MY FATHER ARGUMENT, BUILDERS NEED AND NOTICE ONE POINT PERMIT NOT ACCEPTED, THE PERMIT WILL NOT BE SEE OWED AND ACCEPTED.

COVENANT WITH THE BOND TION CARTE BLANCHE CHANGE EVERY SUBDIVISION WE BUILD IN THIS COUNTY. WE SHOULD NOT BE SCARED TO THROW A HAMMER.

GOD KNOWS, EITHER ONE EVERYDAY. SHOULD I THROW HAMMER SOMETHING THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

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>> I SEE OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS SOMETHING TO SAY. >> RESPECTFULLY, WHAT YOU THINK THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO SAY? SO, COMES TO. [INDISCERNIBLE] AND DO NOT ISSUE IT, WHAT DOES DEVELOPER SAY? DEVELOPER DOES NOT TAKE BLAME.

>> IF THE SUBDIVISION IS NOT COMPLETE, THEY HAVE BEEN NOTICED NO CO UNTIL COMPLETE,

WHERE DOES THE BLAME LIE? >> THE COUNTY. WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING.

WE DO NOT KNOW WHY THEY WON'T DO. THEY HAVE A BOND.

THEY COULD USE THE BOND. DO A TEMPORARY CO. IT NEVER GETS DONE.

ALTHOUGH THE WORK FALLS BACK ON THE COUNTY, RIGHT. WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE THE ONE TO MOVE FORWARD AND TAKE ACTION ON THE BOND. DEVELOPER, WHOEVER ISSUED BOND

SHOULD. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT.

>> ANOTHER PART TO MY QUESTION, DID NOT GET TO YET. >> I'M SORRY.

>> BY DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BUT MORE ON THE DEVELOPER THAN ANYTHING, BUT DOES THIS HELP THE HOMEOWNER MORE SO THAN CURRENT PROCESS? OTHER WORDS, IF THIS BECOMES SOMETHING IN WRITING, HOMEOWNER BELIEVE DONE BY CERTAIN TIME OF DAY, BUT THE BUILDER OR DEVELOPER NOT CONFORMING TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THE RIGHT WAY.

HOW DOES THIS AFFECT HOMEOWNER? HOMEOWNER ÃTHE BUILDER, NEEDS MONEY AND GET PAID.

I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. AT THE SAME TIME, BY MISLEADING AND REALTORS MISLEADING PUBLIC TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, 50 HOMES BY CHRISTMAS SO YOU CAN GET HOME EXEMPTION ETC. THE OTHER ONES ARE LOSERS. ULTIMATELY HOUSES TO FINISH IN ONE POINT.

I LOOK AT IT AS THE LOSER WOULD BE THE HOMEOWNER. PERSON PUTTING MONEY UP DOWN PAYMENT FOR HOME. RECEIPT OF THE DEVELOPER. PUTTING LANGUAGE IN WRITING, PUTS DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS ON NOTICE. CAN'T TELL PEOPLE THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN. FOR THAT REASON. I'M LOOKING OUT FOR HOMEOWNER

AT THIS POINT. >> HAVING BEEN IN SUBDIVISIONS BRAND-NEW THEY DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THIS. CONSTANTLY TORN UP, NEVER DID FINISH AND STRUCTURE.

HAVING BUILT A NUMBER HOMES FOR SALE, RIGHT. MAKE SURE INFRASTRUCTURE IS DONE FIRST. WHY, WOULD BE IS A COUNTY NOT WANT TO ENSURE FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS COMPLETE BEFORE WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO START BUILDING? AS A HOMEOWNER, POTENTIALLY IN ONE OF THOSE SUBDIVISIONS, LESS THAN I WANT TO BUILD MY HOME, ALL OF A SUDDEN EVERYTHING TORN UP. ALSO ASKED A QUESTION, WHY ARE WE NOT THROWING

UTILITIES IN? >> NO, WE ARE DOING UTILITIES. >> NOT IN THAT WRITING.

ELECTRIC, SEWER, CABLE EVERYTHING ELSE. >> CABLE WE ARE MAKING THEM, FINISHED UP FIRST PHASE OF GRAY HAWK. ALL OF THE CABLE PEOPLE OUT THERE UNDER THE ROADS. PUTTING THINGS IN BAD PLACES. NOW WE SAY GIVE US A CONDUIT

PLAN. YOU TO PUT CONDUITS IN. >> RUN THE CONDUIT, RIGHT.

PULL WIRE AFTERWARD. >> THEN PULL WIRE. IF WE HAVE NOT CHANGED CO TIME, WHAT'S PROBLEM CHANGING START TIME? CO SAME WILL BE DOING NOW AND

PROPOSING. THE END IS IN. >> THE AMOUNT OF PERMITS

EQUABLE.OUR. >> ONLY 10 FOR MODEL HOMES. WE ARE NOT CAPPING.

ONCE SUBGRADE APPROVE, PULL FOR ALL 70 LOTS, NOT CAPPING THOSE. ONLY CAPPING NUMBER OF MODEL

HOMES. >> SO, NOT CHANGING THE TIME OR THE QUANTITY OF HOMES TO BE PULLED AFTER NEXT STAGE OF MODEL HOME STAGE? OR AFTER ACCEPTED STAGE?

>> RIGHT HERE ONLY TIME DON'T WANT YOU TO START SO SOON, MOST OF UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE IN. 120 DAYS. AS IT IS,, YOU KNOW,

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I AM SURE HE DID NOT REALIZE HE WOULD BE FIGHTING 75 HOMEBUILDERS.

IT IS A PROBLEM. LIKE I SAID, WILL NOT CHANGE IN DATE.

GET CO EXACTLY SAME TIME THIS LANGUAGE IS NOW. MAKE THEM WAIT A COUPLE MONTHS TO START THE HOUSE 90-120 DAYS. LESS EXPECTATION ON CITIZENS APART.

HOPEFULLY SALESPEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND. DO THINGS YOU NORMALLY DO.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COUNTY ENGINEER? >> I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT, KIND OF. I NEVER REALLY QUITE GOT AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION.

I GET THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS HAS MINIMAL, IF ANY IMPACT, TO SMALL BUILDERS.

THAT IS WHO I'M WORRIED ABOUT. SMALL BUSINESS. BIG CORPORATE BUILDER HAVE DEEP POCKET. IF IT CAUSES THEM A PROBLEM, A PROBLEM OF THEIR OWN MAKING.

CREATE A PROBLEM, SUFFER CONSEQUENCES. I DO NOT THINK WE ARE HURTING SMALL BUILDERS. THE GUYS PLAY BY THE RULES. THAT IS ALL.

>> ANY OF THE QUESTIONS FOR COUNTY ENGINEER, DALE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

>> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MODEL HOMES SAYING SPEC HOMES, YOU CONSIDER THOSE TWO DIFFERENT

TAKES, >> TECHNICALLY, THEY ARE PAIRED PERMIT ÃBUILDER GOES INTO SUBDIVISION, USE PERMITS THE COUPLE INITIALLY TO BUILD ONE MODEL AND TO SPECS.

THERE ARE PRODUCT TO SELL. THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAD, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PULL. IF THE SALES, CANNOT PULL PERMITS TO BUILD THOSE UNTIL

THEY HAVE COUNTY ACCEPTANCE. MY EDGE CITY. >> PART OF MY QUESTION ALSO,

FROM THAT SIDE OF IT. >> FROM MY WORLD, I DON'T. [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> I GET THREE MODEL HOMES. ONE IS A ROLE MODEL, TWO SPECS. YOU CANNOT GET CO ON SPEC UNTIL SUBDIVISION BUILT. YOU BUILD THREE MODEL HOMES, THE THREE HOMES SET FOR THAT YEAR OR MORE WHILE BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE. YOU CAN SELL TWO SPECS, SOMEONE

HAS TO WAIT A YEAR. >> DECISION OF BUILDER WHETHER THEY WANT TO SIT ON INVENTORY AND USES ADDITIONAL MODEL HOMES. OUR PRESALE DATE AND FUTURE.

>> THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE WHAT WE ARE DOING. ONE MODEL HOME, TWO SPECS.

MOVES IN A YEAR LATER. >> MODEL HOMES ISSUED TEMPORARY CO BECAUSE TREATED DIFFERENTLY.

REVIEWED AS MODEL HOME. SALES OFFICE IN THE GARAGE. CONVERTED INTO RESIDENTIAL HOME IN THE END TO GET A FINAL CO. THEY ARE VIEWED DIFFERENTLY. ANNOT BE AUTOMATIC ASSAULT.

>> I MIGHT BE A LITTLE THICKER. IT SAYS MODEL HOMES. I KNOW WHAT A MODEL HOME IS.

NOT A SPECK. I THINK THE BUILDERS OR WHOEVER ARE BEING SLICK BY GOING IN BUILDING PERMITS CALLING MODEL HOMES WITH INTENTION OF SELLING AND NOT USING AS MODEL.

SO, EVEN ANOTHER REASON BECAUSE THEY ARE PLAYING GAMES WITH LANGUAGE IF THAT IS WHAT THEY

ARE DOING. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR APPLICANT, IF NOT, OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FOR PUBLIC HEARING? NO PHONE CALLS, NOBODY APPROACHING PODIUM. CLOSE PUBLIC CARE.

BRING BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND EMOTION. >> I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH DISCUSSION. [LAUGHING]

>> I WILL MOVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. >> I WILL SECOND.

>> 1ST AND 2ND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?LL THOSE IN FAVOR.

ALTHOUGH SUPPOSED SAME TIME. OTION CARRIES. >>> THANK YOU FOR THAT LIVELY

DISCUSSION. >> WE HAD A REQUEST TO CLARIFY MOTION AND ACTION TITLE NUMBER

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>> NO, I MISS THAT. >> RESTATE THE MOTION. PUT THAT BACK ON THE TABLE.

>> I WILL RESTATE MY MOTION FOR THAT. I MOVE THAT REZONING APPLICATION PD 21 AND DR AMENDMENT 2001 CONTINUED TO MEETING OR CONTINUED UNTIL JULY 7 AT 7:00 P.M. OR SOON THEREAFTER AS SOON AS CAN BE HEARD.

>> FRIENDLY AMENDMENT?> I WANT TO MAKE SURE 2001 AND NOT. [INDISCERNIBLE] BOTH SHOULD BE

20 Ã01. >> DID I READ 10? >> 1ST AND 2ND? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ALTHOUGH SUPPOSED, SAME TIME.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFICATION. ANY OLD BUSINESS? ANY NEW BUSINESS? WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP LAST PUBLIC COMMENTS. NO PHONE CALLS OR ANYONE APPROACHING UP PODIUM. CLOSE PUBLIC,. GOING TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.

THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE. ROBERT, GOING TO MISS YOU.

>> I'M GOING TO MISS YOU GUYS AND THE REST OF COMMISSIONE

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