May 12, 2020 BCC Agenda

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>>> AGAIN FOR THOSE WHO ARE TUNED IN TODAY, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR JOINING THE BCC MEETING. WE'RE STILL OBVIOUSLY VIRTUAL.

AND COUNTY MANAGER INFORMED ME WE'LL PROBABLY DO ONE MORE LIKE THIS BEFORE WE GO BACK TO LIVE MEETINGS IN OUR CHAMBERS.

[CALL TO ORDER]

MR. ROLLINS WILL GIVE AN INVOCATION AND COMMISSIONER BOLLA WILL LEAD US IN PLEDGE ALLALLEGIANCE TO OUR FLAG.

>> THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE TO MEET, EVEN THROUGH DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES.

I PRAY YOU BE WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND COUNTRY AS WE CONTINUE TO COME TOGETHER WHILE ALSO STAYING APART THROUGH THESE DIFFICULT TIMES. I PRAY YOU WOULD HELP US TO HELP EACH OTHER AND LOOK FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN NEED AND GIVE A HELPING HAND WHEN POSSIBLE. GIVE US WISDOM THROUGH THIS MEETING IN JESUS' NAME I PRAY, AMEN.

>> PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> THANK YOU. RECITING THE FLAG IS TOUGH.

>> I WAS GOING TO ASK COMMISSIONER CHAIRMAN TO STEP BACK ABOUT HALF A PACE TO GET HIS STOMACH OUT OF THE FLAG

VIEWING THERE. >> NOT A PROBLEM.

DON'T EVEN GOING THERE. YOU MUST BE LOOKING IN THE

MIRROR WAYNE, COME ON. >> NO EXTRA CHARGE FOR THAT

SHOW, HUH? >> GREAT SILHOUETTE.

>> WHAT A BEAUTIFUL DAY NOT TO BE OUTSIDE ENJOYING IT.

WE DO NEED SOME RAIN HOWEVER. SO I'LL TAKE THE SUNSHINE FOR TODAY, ANYWAY. WE'VE ALREADY HAD OUR CALL TO ORDER, AND OUR ROLL CALL I THINK IS SELF-EVIDENT SO I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE COLL CALLING A ROLL. WE HAVE A P PROCLAMATION OF LAW

[PROCLAMATIONS/RESOLUTIONS]

IF THERE'S A REQUEST, I'LL READ IT.

IF NOT, THEN I WOULD ASK AFTER SOME DELIBERATION A MOTION TO

APPROVE IT. >> I'LL MOVE APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE ALL AGREED THAT I'LL GO HEAD AHEADAND TAKE A VOTE ON THE RESOLUTION ON POLICE MEMORIAL DAY ON CLAY COUNTY. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> OPPOSED.

>> COUNTY COMMISSIONER, WHEN DID WE ROLL CALL ON THE --

>> GOOD. >> IT WILL BE IN JACKIE'S OFFICE AND YOU GUYS CAN GET BY AND SIGN IT, IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED, OR AT LEAST MAYBE BY THE FOLLOWING DAY.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON INTO OUR AGENDA ITEM 2

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

>> MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL GO TO ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER RAWLINS.

>> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA.

>> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA.

>> AYE AND THE CHAIR VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN PASSED. ON TO ITEM 3.

INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MINUTES. WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE

BOARD? >> MOVE APPROVAL.

>> APPROVAL BY WHO WAS THAT? >> AND IS THERE A SECOND?

>> AYE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER ROLLINS?

>> AYE,. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINS?

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>> AYE. >> AND THE CHAIR VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. SO DONE.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

ITEMS -- THAT WOULD BE ITEMS 4-7 WITH A CAVEAT.

WE HAVE -- >> CHAIRMAN?

>> OFF OF ITEM 7 TO BE PRESENTED BY OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY INVOLVING THE SHIP CONTRACT. IF WE COULD HAVE A MOTION ON ITEMS 4, 5, AND 6 THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE BEFORE WE GET TO COUNTY ATTORNEY. OH, WE'LL DO PUBLIC COMMENTS RIGHT AFTER THIS. I'M SORRY.

>> I'LL MOVE APPROVAL THE REMAINDER OF THE CONSENT AGENDA

MINUS ITEM 7. >> SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> SECOND, OKAY, ALL IN FAVOR,

COMMISSIONER ROLLINS? >> AYE.

>> COMMISSIONER BOLLA, COMMISSIONER HUTCHINS?

>> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA DID I GET AN AFFIRMATIVE OUT OF YOU ON THAT?

>> AYE, AYE. >> GOT TWO OF THEM.

VERY GOOD AND THE CHAIR VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ON THAT.

[7.  Finance & Audit Committee Business]

AHEAD AND SPEAK TO THAT? >> YEAH, SO FOR ITEM NUMBER 7, IT'S ITEM NUMBER 11 THAT WAS ON THE FINANCE AND AUDIT BUSINESS.

THE FINANCE COMMITTEE APPROVED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. THE APPROVAL OF THE MAXIM CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT, WHICH WAS FOR DEMOLITION AND RECONSTRUCTION OF A HOME. THE AMOUNT OF THAT CONTRACT WAS IN THE AMOUNT OF 163,000 SEV $163,700.THE BOARD IT APPROVED , AND IN REVIEWING THE CONTRACT AND MOVING FORWARD WITH IT, IT WAS REALIZED THAT IN CONNECTION WITH THE SHIP PROJECTS ONLY PROVIDES FOR AGREEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $160,000.

SO WHAT WE ARE ASKING THE BOARD IN CONNECTION WITH APPROVAL OF THE MAXIMUM CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT IS AUTHORIZATION TO EXCEED THE $160,000 SET FORTH N THE L HALF AND THAT WAY THAT CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH APPROVAL OF THAT AGREEMENT.

>> QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, FOLKS? >> SO THE SHIP PROGRAM PUT IN

THE EXTRA $3,700 THEN? >> YES, SIR.

>> IS THAT HOW IT WORKS? >> OKAY.

>> YES. THEY'LL FIND THE ENTIRE

$163,700. >> ALL RIGHT.

WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD?

>> I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEM 11 WITH THE $160,000 AND THEN MOVE

TO EXCEED IT BY $3,700. >> SECOND.

>> WAYNE, WAS THAT A SECOND, I'M SORRY?

>> YES. >> YES, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. AND OUR VOTE, COMMISSIONER

ROLLINS SOME. >> AYE.

>> COMMISSIONER BOLLA? >> AYE.

>> COMMISSIONER? >> AYE.

>> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINS? >> AYE.

>> OKAY AND THE CHAIR VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

IT'S UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

DOES THAT DO YOU, COURTNEY? >> BEFORE WE MOVE OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA DID INCLUDE ALL OF ITEMS 4-SEVE 4-7 EXCEPT E

ITEM WE PULLED, IS THAT CORRECT? >> MR. ROLLINS, WAS THAT YOUR

MOTION OR YOUR INTENT? >> ALL THE CONSENT ITEMS EXCEPT FOR ITEM 7 WHICH WAS PULLED. WE JUST DISCUSSED.

>> NUMBER 11 FROM NUMBER 7 JUST FOR CLARITY FOR THE MINUTES.

>> OKAY. >> THE ENTIRE CONSENT AGENDA HAS BEEN APPROVED WITH THE ADDENDUM COURTNEY JUST PRESENTED TO US.

IS THAT CORRECT, MADAME ATTORNEY? I'M SORRY. LET'S GO BACK TO PUBLIC

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

>> YES, SIR, YOU HAVE MR. OTTO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

>> YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, TAKE IT AWAY.

>> PLEASE PRESS STAR 6 TO UNMUTE.

>> MR. OTTO, ARE YOU WITH US? >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> I CAN HEAR YOU. >> HELLO?

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>> GO AHEAD. >> THIS IS CLAY COUNTY FLORIDA HOTELS. NEED TO TRY TO KEEP TI IN IN OR.

I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO LOOK IT UP. I'D LIKE TO SEE THE FORMAT, EVEN WHEN YOU GO BACK TO THE REGULAR MEETINGS SO PEOPLE CAN CALL IN, ELDERLY PEOPLE AND OTHER FOLKS THAT CAN'T MAKE IT TO THE MEETING THEY CAN CALL IN. THIS SHOULD BE DONE GOING FORWARD. WE NEED TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT IN THE MEETING. $130 MILLION, $29 MILLION IN FEES AND STUFF. WE NEED TO HOLD OFF ON THAT, THE PRICE OF THE CONSTRUCTION WAS REALLY HIGH.

THE SLOW GROWTH COULD BE VOTED AND THE FAST GROWTH FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN CLAY COUNTY. YOU LOOK AT THAT.

WE DON'T NEED TO BE SPENDING MONEY ON THE FAIRGROUNDS AND STUFF WITH WHAT'S GOING ON THESE DAYS.

THE VOTERS VOTED DOWN FIELD OF DREAMS. LET'S CUT THAT CONTRACT LOOSE. THEY'VE GOT THIS BICYCLE THING GOING ON AND MAY COME AND IT MAY NOT.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO USE THE PARKS ANYWAY WITH WHAT'S GOING ON. WE SHOULD OPEN UP THE PLAYGROUNDS AND HAVE OUR SROS AT OUR SCHOOLS WATCHING OVER THOSE PLAYGROUNDS KEEPING THE KIDS DISTANCED.

BUT LET THEM HAVE THOSE PLAYGROUNDS TO USE AT THE SCHOOLS. THERE IS EMERGENCY MONEY I WANTED TO TALK ON ON NUMBER 8. YES, TO THE NUMBER 10 ON THE SHOULDERS. WE DON'T NEED TO BE PUTTING ALL THAT MONEY IN ON 220, THOUGH, AND COLLEGE DRIVE.

BECAUSE THAT WAS -- WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE CANCELING ON 218, THAT BRIDGE SO PEOPLE CAN WALK TO THE STORES.

WE JUST NEED TO SPEND THE MONEY MORE WISELY.

14, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON 14 AND WE SHOULDN'T BE SUPPORTING CHILD ABUSE OF FOOTBALL.

IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE KEEP THEIR KIDS HOME FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS THEIR OPINION ON THIS OPENING UP AND THE G5 THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT WITH THE YOUNG STUDENTS THAT CAME TO TALK TO THEM. SO THAT'S RIGHT AT ABOUT MY THREE MINUTES I SEE, WITHIN A FEW SECONDS.

SO APPRECIATE THAT, THAT THE CITIZENS ARE ABLE TO DO THIS MORE ONCE THEY GET SET UP AND GOING.

THE CITIZENS WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS FROM HOME.

HAND ECAPPHANDICAPPED AND THE ES A GOOD THING.

>> THANK YOU, MR. OTTO WE APPRECIATE YOU CALLING IN, WE REALLY DO. ANY OTHER FOLKS OUT THERE FOR

PUBLIC COMMENTS? >> NO, SIR, WE HAVE NONE.

>> THAT DOES IT. ALL RIGHT.

MOVING ON TO OUR AGENDA, ITEM 8 UNDER NEW BUSINESS.

[8.  Items for Ratification - Processed under Local State of Emergency, Executive Order COVID-19]

MAYBE A LITTLE TIME ON THE PART OF SOME OF OUR COUNTY WORKERS, BUT THAT WOULD BE ALL. DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THIS, HOWARD? OR THE DOCUMENT PRETTY MUCH

SPEAKS FOR THEMSELVES? >> THE DOCUMENT SPEAKS FOR

ITSELF. >> THE COUNTY WANTS FOR THE NEXT YEAR TO APPRECIATE EQUIPMENT AND MATERIAL IN OUR COUNTY FOR IN CASE OF A HURRICANE THIS COMING YEAR.

AND THEN IT WILL BE REMOVED AFTER HURRICANE SEASON IS OVER

WITH. >> YES, SIR.

>> AND WE HAVE FACILITIES AT THE FAIRGROUNDS TO ACCOMMODATE THIS AT NOW COST. SO ANY THOUGHTS ON THE PART OF THE BOARD ON THIS? IT LOOKS LIKE A WIN-WIN TO ME.

>> I WOULD AGREE. >> I THINK IT'S GREAT, AND JUST WANT TO KIND OF GIVE A SHOUTOUT TO THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT STAFF FOR LEANING FORWARD ON NOT ONLY THAT, BUT ALSO, LIKE WITH THE COVID HAVING THE REGIONAL STATE REGIONAL TEAM HOUSED IN GREEN COVE REALLY HAS HELPED I THINK OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE HAVE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND THEY'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, WILLING AND ABLE TO WORK WITH THE STATE TO COORDINATE.

THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THAT. I THINK IT'S GOOD NEWS FOR CLAY

COUNTY. >> I THINK YOU'VE SPENT SOME TIME OUT THERE AS PART OF YOUR FUNCTION IN THE NATIONAL GUARD,

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IS THAT CORRECT? >> I DID, YES, SIR.

THE STAFF IS DOING A GREAT JOB, PHENOMENAL.

I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT ALL THE GREAT WORK THEY'RE DOING.

WE GOT TO STAND ON THE ROOF AND WATCH THE BLUE ANGELS FLY OVER,

THAT WAS PRETTY COOL. >> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS BEFORE I ASK FOR A MOTION?

HEARING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION? >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> SO MOVED AND A SECOND.

WE WILL TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER RAWLINGS.

>> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA.

>> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA.

>> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINS.

>> AYE. >> AND THE CHAIR VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. SO MOVED. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM

[9.  Discussion regarding Buy American Act and preference for goods and materials that are made in the United States (Commissioner Rollins)]

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

BASICALLY WHAT I WANTED TO DO -- AND WE I THINK TRIED TO DO THIS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IS BRING THIS BEFORE THE COMMISSION IN GENERAL AND THEN THAT ALLOWS THE BOARD TO DISCUSS IT BEFORE STAFF DOES A LOT OF WORK. SO STAFF HAS NOT REALLY FLESHED THIS OUT IN DETAIL YET. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

BECAUSE IF THE COMMISSIONER DIDN'T WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH IT, I DIDN'T WANT STAFF TO DO A TON OF WORK.

AND I ALSO WOULD LOVE INPUT ON SPECIFICS.

BUT THE BASIC CONCEPT IS THIS, THAT IN THE SAME WAY WE HAVE A PREFERENCE FOR LOCAL GOODS IN OUR PURCHASING POLICY, THAT WE SHOULD ADD SOMETHING IN THERE FOR A PREFERENCE FOR AMERICAN GOODS. AND SPECIFICALLY WHAT THAT WOULD DO IS IF THERE'S A -- WITHIN A 5% DIFFERENCE, WE WOULD BUY THE AMERICAN GOOD. IF IT'S MORE THAN 5% DIFFERENCE, THEN WE COULD STILL PURCHASE SOMETHING FROM A DIFFERENT COUNTRY. BUT IT WOULD JUST PRIORITIZE BUYING AMERICAN. I CAN GO ON ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF THAT FOR A LONG TIME. BUT THAT'S THE BASIC IDEA.

I THINK WE PROBABLY ALL AGREE THAT GENERALLY SPEAKING SUPPORTING AMERICAN COMPANIES AND MANUFACTURING IS IMPORTANT.

THE OTHER THING THAT IS SOURCE OF RELATED TO THAT, BUT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IS IF YOU GUYS WERE GOOD WITH IT, I'D LIKE TO WORK WITH STAFF ON BASICALLY TAKING WHAT IS A CURRENT FEDERAL LAW ON CHINESE TELECOMMUNICATION COMPANIES.

SO BASICALLY I'LL JUST READ A REAL QUICK THING HERE.

IN 2019, THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT, WHICH BASICALLY IS THE, YOU KNOW, AUTHORIZES MILITARY FUNDING EACH YEAR, THEY ADDED IN THERE THAT RESTRICTIONS ON FEDERAL FUNDS BEING USED TO DO BUSINESS WITH CERTAIN CHINESE TELECOMMUNICATION FIRMS. AND THIS ALSO PROHIBITED GOVERNMENT CONTRACTORS AND GRANT RECIPIENTS FROM WORKING DIRECTLY WITH CHINESE COMPANIES OR OTHER ENTITIES THAT INSTITUTE SUCH TECHNOLOGY. WE ALREADY ARE LIMITED WHEN IT COMES TO FEDERAL GRANTS BY THIS LAW.

BUT I THINK TECHNICALLY WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO BUY CHINESE TELECOM EQUIPMENT IF WE'RE USING ONLY COUNTY OR STATE FUNDING.

AND SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS BASICALLY TAKE THAT FEDERAL LAW THAT'S ALREADY VETTED, ALREADY DETERMINED -- AND THE REASON FOR THE FEDERAL LAW, AS THEY STATED WHEN THEY PASSED IT, WAS CONCERNS BY OUR INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY AND SECURITY OFFICIALS THAT CHINA COULD TAP THE TECHNOLOGY FOR SPYING PURPOSES.

I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A PERSONAL EXAMPLE.

I HAVE TO HAVE A CREDIT MONITORING SERVICE BECAUSE A CHINESE -- IT WAS PROBABLY THE CHINESE MILITARY -- HACKED THE OFFICE OF PERSONNEL AND MANAGEMENT FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND ENDED UP STEALING A WHOLE BUNCH OF DATA FOR NATIONAL -- FOR SOLDIERS AND MILITARY MEMBERS.

AND SO -- AND THEN RELEASED THAT.

THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF HOW THEY ATTEMPT TO STEAL AND INFILTRATE OUR NETWORKS AND SYSTEMS. THIS WOULD BE A SECURITY MEASURE TO BASICALLY -- AGAIN, IF EVERYONE IS GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS IDEA, THEN I CAN WORK WITH STAFF TO COME BACK WITH A SPECIFIC POLICY ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. BUT THERE IS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS ALREADY DONE -- I HAVE BASICALL A PAPER THAT TALKS ABOUT THE COMPANIES THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY NOT ALLOWED TO BE PURCHASED BECAUSE OF SECURITY CONCERNS.

SO THE INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES HAVE ALREADY DONE THE VETTING AND DETERMINED WHICH COMPANIES SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T BE USED IN THAT TYPE OF THING. SO THAT'S THE BROAD THING.

GENERALLY THE BUY AMERICAN PREFERENCE WITHIN 5%.

AND THEN A BAN ON SECURITY CONCERNS RELATED TO CHINESE TELECOM COMPANIES AND TAKING BASICALLY THE FEDERAL POLICY AND

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MAKING IT A LOCAL POLICY. >> VERY GOOD.

ANY FOLLOW UP COMMENTS BY THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON COMMISSIONER ROLLINS' IDEA? I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S LONG OVERDUE AND IT'S BEEN REALLY EXACERBATED BY THIS PANDEMIC. COME TO FIND OUT THAT CHINA MAKES OVER 80% OF OUR ANTIBIOTICS, THAT'S DISTURBING,

IT REALLY IS. >> CAN WE DO THE SAME THING WITH CLAY COUNTY AND DO A 5% EXCHANGE THERE?

IT'S WITHIN 5%, WE GO -- >> I WOULD --

>> AT THE SAME TIME. I SEE MORE BENEFIT OUT OF GETTING THE BUSINESS INTO CLAY COUNTY THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

>> WE ALREADY HAVE THAT. >> IS IT 5%, MIKE?

>> FOR BIDDING, YEAH. IF IT'S THE SECOND PLACE BIDDER AND THEY'RE WITHIN 5% THEY GET A CHANCE TO MATCH AND BE ABLE TO

BE THE LOW BIDDER IN THAT. >> THE 5% IS IN THERE ALREADY?

>> YES, SIR. >> WE'D BE EXTENDING THAT TO NON-CHINA THEN? I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH

THAT. >> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.

ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE'LL SEE -- AND THE ONLY -- I'M ALL FOR IT.

AND CERTAINLY ON A FEDERAL LEVEL THEY CAN HELP US BY STANDING UP MANUFACTURING PLANTS AND START MAKING MORE OF WHAT WE NEED HERE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BUY IT FROM CHINA.

BUT JUST TO -- TO RELATE JUST A QUICK STORY TO YOU.

OVER THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS WE'VE GOT A TV THAT'S HEADED DOWN THE WRONG PATH. AND MOST OF THE ANCHORS, IF YOU WATCH THEY LOOK LIKE THEY CAME FROM THE GRINCH THAT STOLE CHRISTMAS, THEY'RE ALL GREEN. IT'S GONE TO LIKE A DOUBLE KIND OF A LOOK ON IT. YOU'RE SEEING DOUBLE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TV. SO I SET OFF TO BUY AMERICAN FOR TVS, AND I HAVE NOT BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.

EVEN THOUGH THE ONE TV COMPANY THAT SUPPOSEDLY IS AMERICAN, WHICH HAS HEADQUARTERS IN CALIFORNIA BUT THEY MAKE THEIR TVS IN CHINA. SO THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS AND WORK ON THE PROCESS, WE GIVE OUR STAFF SOME WIGGLE ROOM SO THAT IF THEY COME ACROSS A SITUATION WHERE THEY CAN'T FIND SOMETHING FROM THE U.S., THEY DON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, GO DEEP INTO A SEARCH TO LOOK FOR PRODUCTS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY RUNNING IN ARREARS IN TERMS OF TRYING TO GET PURCHASING THROUGH. I WOULD HATE TO SEE THEM SPEND A LOT OF RESEARCH TIME TO TRY TO FIND, YOU KNOW, A 51% OR WHATEVER WE END UP WITH, YOU KNOW, AMERICAN THAT WE CAN END UP BUYING. BUT, YEAH, IT'S BEEN AN INTERESTING WEEK OR SO OF RESEARCH TRYING TO FIND AN AMERICAN MADE COMPANY THAT MAKES TVS.

THERE IS NONE. WE DO HAVE CHINA'S MAKING TVS TVSIN MEXICO. BUT MEXICO MAKES THEM WITH CHINESE PARTS. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO WORK YOUR WAY AROUND IN SOME OF THE ELECTRONICS.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WORKING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GIVE THEM SOME LEEWAY.

>> LEEWAY, FLEXIBILITY. AND TO THAT POINT, MR. CHAIR, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WELCOME THE BROAD BASED POLICY IS WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE. BUT I WELCOME FEEDBACK ON THE INDIVIDUAL ASPECTS OF THIS. I'M NOT MARRIED TO ANY NUANCE OF THIS. I THINK THE GENERAL IDEA -- AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET PERFECT OVERNIGHT.

LIKE COMMISSIONER CELLA SAID IT'S DIFFICULT IN CERTAIN DESCREAZ. DEGREES.

DEGREE INDUSTRIES.

IT'S IMPORTANT WITH OUR INTERNET AND COMPUTER SYSTEMS, MAKING SURE THAT FOR INSTANCE IF THERE'S A DRONE GIVEN BY A CHINESE COMPANY WE DON'T USE THAT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

AND THEN THE CHINESE COMPANY PUTS A BACK DOOR IN IT THAT SENDS THAT INFORMATION BACK TO CHINA AND THEY DON'T HAVE INFORMATION FROM THE DRONE THAT FLEW OVER TO COMMISSIONER BOLLA'S HOUSE. THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN BUYING SHOES MADE FROM CHINA. WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS A GENERAL BROAD BASED AGREEMENT AND I CAN WORK WITH STAFF AND I'D LOVE FOR OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO GIVE INPUT TO STAFF AND BRING BACK A POLICY THAT'S SIMPLIFIED ENOUGH WHERE LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, COMMISSIONER CELLA, WE DON'T SPEND DAYS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT -- BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE COMPLICATED.

BUT THE GENERAL IDEA SENDS A SIGNAL THAT CLAY COUNTY SUPPORTS BRINGING A LOT OF THAT MANUFACTURING BACK HOME.

>> I'LL JUST WEIGH IN HERE AND SAY KUDOS TO YOU, COMMISSIONER, FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I THINK GIVEN THE PRESENT ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE IN, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE ADVERTISING MADE IN AMERICA. IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT EASIER TO TELL WHAT IS AND WHAT IS NOT. I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I THINK IT'S VERY TIMELY.

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>> THANK YOU. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT. >> JUST, YOU KNOW, BRINGING IT DOWN TO A PERSONAL LEVEL. I'M A LIFELONG MEMBER OF THE NRA. THEY SENT ME A GIFT, THEY SENT ME THIS BEAUTIFUL POCKET KNIFE. WHEN YOU OPEN IT UP AND LOOK ON THE BLADE IT SAYS, GUESS WHAT, MADE IN CHINA.

>> MADE IN CHINA. >> AND THAT'S KIND OF OFFENSIVE FOR AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AS RED WHITE AND BLUE AS THE NRA. I THINK, YOU KNOW -- IN FACT I'M GOING TO TO CALL THEM TOMORROW. ANYWAY, ANOTHER PRODUCT MADE IN

CHINA. >> CHAIRMAN ME HENRY WAVING AROD

THAT KNIFE, I HAVE TO BACK UP. >> YOU'RE SAFE.

ONLY PERSON IN TROUBLE IS THE COUNTY MANAGER AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. BUT I'LL TRY TO CONTROL MYSELF.

THEN I THINK WE PRETTY WELL HAVE CONSENSUS ON AUTHORIZING COMMISSIONER RAWLI ROLLINS TO PT ON THESE BONES. LET'S STEP UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR WORKERS.

>> DO YOU MIND IF I ASK COURTNEY IF SHE HAS ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONER OR IF THAT'S ENOUGH TO START WITH AND KIND OF GET

INPUT FROM COMMISSIONERS? >> NOPE, I THINK I HAVE ENOUGH TO START WITH. AND I CAN CIRCLE BACK WITH EVERYONE. THANK YOU.

>> AWESOME. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, GAVIN. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM 10.

[10.  Bid #19/20-28, CR 315C Shoulder Improvement and Paving]

DALE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO TELL US ABOUT THIS?

DALE SMITH? >> YES, SIR.

WHAT WE'VE GOT IS WE'VE BID THE PROJECTS.

WE'RE ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO POST THE NOTICE OF THE AWARD TO -- FOR COUNTY ROAD 315C TO PREFERRED MATERIALS.

AND THE BID AROUND WAS $2,007,776,000 AND SOME CHANGE.

EXPWIEDBESIDES THAT WE HAD LIKEE AN APPROVAL OF THE AGREEMENT.

WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS PROJECT STARTED THAT'S BEEN DELAYED FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS.

PART OF IT WAS THE FUNDING OF THE PROJECT.

WE NEEDED ABOUT $500,000 MORE BECAUSE OF SOME ISSUES WE FOUND OUT IN DESIGN. AND ALL THIS WOULD HAPPEN AFTER THE 72-HOUR PROTEST PERIOD EXPIRED.

>> QUESTIONS? >> NO ONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS,

I'LL MOVE APPROVAL. >> I'LL SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> APPROVAL AND SECOND. WE'LL GO TO A ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER ROLLINS?

>> AYE. >> CELLA.IONER CHALLA?

>> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINS.

>> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA.

>> AYE. >> AND THE CHAIR VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. THAT IS PASSED.

[11.  Eisman and Russo Design Agreement-College Drive Resurfacing, Restoration and Rehabilitation Project]

DESIGN AGREEMENT FOR COLLEGE DRIVE RESURFACING.

DALE, DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE? >> THIS IS ONE OF TWO PROJECTS WE'VE GOT ON THE AGENDA. WE HAD DELAYED THESE UNTIL WE STARTED OUR BOND PROGRAM. SO WE'RE READY TO GET STARTED.

COLLEGE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE 220.

BECAUSE WITH COLLEGE, WE REALLY WANT TO DIG INTO THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM WHEN WE DO THIS REHABILITATION.

BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS. WE HAVE AN OFF SITE SYSTEM SOT E CALL A PHASE 1 SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT WE CAN REPLACE ONCE WE FIGURE THAT OUT THEN WE CAN NEGOTIATE A FULL DESIGN.

BUT IT'S $192,000 AND IT'S A NINE-MONTH LONG PROCESS.

THEY'LL COME BACK TO US AT THE END OF THAT NINE MONTHS AND TELL US WHAT PARTS OF THE OFF SITE SYSTEM WE CAN REPLACE AND PULL INTO THE ON ONSITE SYSTEM AND HE A BETTER OVERALL DRAINAGE SYSTEM

AND MINIMIZE OUR DRAINAGE COSTS. >> DALE, DOES ANY OF THIS DRAINING YOU'RE REFERRING TO, DOES IT IMPACT ON DOCTORS LAKE

AND SPECIFICALLY CEDAR ROAD? >> THIS DOES NOT.

THIS ALL DRAINS -- MOST OF IT DRAINS TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE BIG COLLEGE POND RIGHT THERE BY THE NEW NURSING HOME THAT'S JUST NORTH OF 220. SO, YOU KNOW, VERY LITTLE IMPACT ON ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, WITH CEDAR.

BECAUSE THE TWO COLLEGE PONDS THAT ARE ON THE STATE COLLEGE THAT WE UTILIZE, THEY ACTUALLY DRAIN TO THE SOUTH AND THEN DRAIN THROUGH THE SANDY LOOP AREA, WHICH IS SOUTH OF CEDAR

ROAD AT ISSUE THERE. >> QUESTIONS, FOLKS?

IS THERE A MOTION? >> I'LL MOVE APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER ROLLINS, I ASSUME WAS YOUR MOTION THAT YOU'RE

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>> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINS.

>> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA?

>> AYE. >> THE CHAIR VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. ITEM 13, TECHNICAL REVISIONS

TO -- >> 12.

>> I'M SORRY 12. YES.

[12.  Eisman and Russo Design Agreement-CR220 Resurfacing, Restoration and Rehabilitation Project]

I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THIS, BUT IT'S YOUR TURN.

>> OKAY. THIS IS A TRIPLE R AND THIS STARTS JUST EAST OF THE BRIDGE OVER SWIMMING PEN CREEK THERE BY WHITEY'S ALL THE WAY TO 17. IT'S TRULY A RRR.

WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING INTERSECTION MODIFICATIONS AT BASICALLY LAKE SHORE WEST. WE'LL BE DOING SOME MODIFICATIONS AT TOWN CENTER AND THERE ARE SOME OPENINGS BETWEEN TOWN CENTER AND 17 THAT WE WILL TURN INTO DEDICATED LEFT TURN LANES RATHER THAN THE BIG OPEN INTERSECTIONS THAT WE HAVE WHERE YOU END UP WITH AS MANY SEVEN, EIGHT CARS IN THIS AREA TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH WAY EVERYBODY IS GOING.

PART OF THIS PROJECT WILL GET SUPPORT FROM D.O.T.

WE'VE GOT TWO D.O.T. GRANTS. THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT TOWN CENTER IS BEING PAID FOR BY D.O.T. GRANTS.

THEIR PLANS ARE FINISHED. WE'LL INCORPORATE THEM INTO THESE SET OF PLANS. AND THEN D.O.T. IS STARTING THE DESIGN OF THE SIGNAL WITH AN HSIP GRANT WE GOT AT LAKE SHORE WEST. WE'LL TAKE THOSE PLANS AND INCORPORATE IT IN THIS PLAN AND END UP WITH ONE NICE PROJECT YOU KNOW FROM SWIMMING PEN CREEK ALL THE WAY TO 17.

>> WHAT DOES RRR STAND FOR? >> RESURFACE, REHABILITATION AND RESTORATION. TYPICALLY ON A RESURFACING JOBIO JOBYOU MILL AND RESURFACE. IF THERE'S BROKEN SIDEWALK, WE'LL FIX THE SIDEWALK. IF THE CURB NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED. WE'LL ALSO LOOK AT THE INTERSECTIONS AND THE TIMING. WE'LL ADD TURN LANES WHERE IT MAKES SENSE TO ADD TURN LANES ON 220 TO GET THE TRAFFIC OFF 220 QUICKER. IF THERE'S INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS ON THE MAJOR CONNECTING STREETS -- ONE OF THEM I THINK THIS CAN OF IS EAST WEST PARKWAY WHERE IT COMES UP THERE BY CHILI'S. WE NEED TO HAVE THAT WIDENS.

AND WE'VE PUT IN FOR STATE GRANTS FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ACCEPTED. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND INCLUDE THE DESIGN IN ON THIS. AND THAT WILL HELP THE TRAFFIC FROM EAST WEST PARKWAY ONTO 220 AND HELP IT FLOW IN BOTH

DIRECTIONS BETTER. >> WHERE DOES THE FUNDING COME

FROM? >> OUR FUNDING COMES FROM THE CIP. THE TWO STATE PROJECT THERE, HS EEHSIP PROJECTS ARE 100% FUNDEDY THE STATE.

>> DOES THIS IN ANY WAY INHIBIT OR POSTPONE THE PROJECT FROM

KNIGHT BOXX TO HENLEY? >> NO, IT DOES NOT AND REALLY A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE WITH KNIGHT BOXX TO HENLEL.

THERE ARE LOCAL FUNDS, D. OCHTO. FUNDS AND THEN FEDERAL FUNDS ON THAT PROJECT. THE MAJORITY OF THE FUNDING, 9 $.5 MILLION IS FROM FEDERAL FUNDING.

>> DALE, I'M JUST GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU ARE TRYING AGAIN TO GET SOME HELP ON EAST WEST PARKWAY. IT'S A BOTTLENECK THERE.

>> IT IS. LIKE I SAID WE'VE TRIED FOR THREE YEARS IN A ROW TO GET SOME FUNDING FROM D.O.T., EITHER HSIP OR WHERE WE'D HAVE TO PAY 50%. NOW THAT OUR RRR HAS MOVED ON WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE IT IN OUR DESIGN NOW.

>> GOOD. >> DALE, IS THERE ANY REASON WE COULDN'T CONTINUE TO APPLY FOR THAT GRANT, EVEN AS WE'RE GOING

THROUGH THE DESIGN PHASE? >> YES, SIR.

THE ONE LESSON THAT JIM KNIGHT WITH D.O.T. HAS TAUGHT ME SINCE I'VE BEEN WITH THE COUNTY IS YOU DO NOT CHANGE PRIORITY ON YOUR LIST. SO EVERYBODY KNOWS YORE SERIOUSE SERIOUS AND YOU'VE GOT YOUR MIND MADE UP ABOUT PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE. WE'LL APPLY FOR IT AGAIN THE END OF DECEMBER, FIRST WEEK OF JANUARY.

>> GOOD. AND CERTAINLY THE AREA YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS BETWEEN TOWN CENTER AND 17, THOSE CUT THROUGHS, IT'S LONG OVERDUE IN TERMS OF A SAFETY STANDPOINT OF CLOSING THOSE DOWN SO WE DON'T HAVE TRAFFIC COMING FROM FIVE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS TRYING TO GET THROUGH THAT SAME LITTLE

INTERSECTION THERE. >> YEAH.

ENGLAND TH THAMES AND MILLER WAS PART OF A STUDY BACK IN 2012 MADE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. WE'RE GOING TO INCORPORATE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. SO IT WILL BE DEDICATED LEFT-HAND TURN LANE, BUT, YOU KNOW, NO THRU TRAFFIC.

>> WELL, I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THAT ITEM.

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>> I'LL SECOND. >> APPROVAL AND SECOND.

MOTION AND SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER CELLA?

>> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA?

>> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS?

>> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER -- I GUESS THAT'S IT, THERE'S FOUR OF YOU, RIGHT?

>> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINS, AYE. >> THANK YOU.

AND THE CHAIRMAN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

THANK YOU, DALE, APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT.

MOVING ON TO ITEM 13. TECHNICAL REVISIONS TO THE LOCAL

[13.  Technical Revisions - SHIP Program’s Local Housing Assistance Plan]

>> YOU'VE GOT A DUO TODAY, SO YES, IT'S YOUR LUCKY DAY.

>> TELL US WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

>> WE'VE GOT NUMBER 13, JUST CAME FROM THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE. JUST A COUPLE OF REALLY QUICK THINGS. LETTER A UNDER 13 IS THE OWNER OCCUPIED HOUSING STRATEGY. AND WHAT THAT IS IS JUST A TECHNICAL CHANGE IN THE FACT THAT FLORIDA HOUSING WANT US TO INCLUDE THE INSPECTION FEES AND THE RECORDING FEES IN THAT MAXIMUM AWARD AMOUNT. SO THAT WILL NOW READ $27,500 INSTEAD OF THE $25,000. ESSENTIALLY JUST A TECHNICAL REVISION. THAT ONE'S PRETTY SIMPLE.

B IS THE ONE THAT'S PRETTY EXCITING, AND I THINK WHY THE FINANCE COMMITTEE ASKED US TO SPEAK TO IT HERE ON THE BOARD FOR. AND THAT'S THE DISASTER ASSISTANCE STRATEGY. I'M GOING TO LET TERESA TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. BUT IT'S -- SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE TO ASSIST THOSE THAT ARE HAVING SOME MAJOR ISSUES THROUGH THE COVID-19 VIRUS.

SO TERESA, IF YOU'LL GO THROUGH THAT REAL QUICK.

>> WHAT WE'RE ADDING TO THE DISASTER ASSISTANCE STRATEGY IS RENTAL AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE FOR ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS AND MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE FOR ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS.

PERSONS WHO ARE DISPLACED THROUGH THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.

SO THIS SHOULD HELP THEM GET THEIR RENT PAI PAYMENTS CAUGHT P AND THEIR MORTGAGE PAYMENTS CAUGHT UP IF THEY'RE BEHIND

OR -- >> WHAT IS YOUR CRITERIA, I GUESS, THE STATE'S CRITERIA FOR ELIGIBILITY?

>> MODERATE INCOME OR BELOW. LOW INCOME, VERY LOW AND

EXTREMELY LOW INCOME. >> SO IT'S INCOME BASED THEN

BASICALLY? >> YES, SIR.

>> OKAY. QUESTIONS OF FELLOW

COMMISSIONERS? >> WHAT'S MODERATE INCOME?

>> MODERATE INCOME IS 70,000 SOMETHING I BELIEVE.

>> SAY THAT AGAIN. >> 7 # TH$70,000 FOR THE HOUSEH.

IT WOULD BE BELOW $70,000. >> I GUESS ALL OF US WOULD

QUALIFY THEN. >> I WAS THINKING THAT.

DOING OUR TAXES THE OTHER DAY, SCHOOL BOARD IS ALMOST GETTING PAID MORE THAN THE COUNTY COMMISSION RIGHT NOW.

BY NEXT YEAR THEY'LL BE OVER US. >> PROBABLY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, FOLKS? IF NOT, SPEAK TO ME.

>> I'LL ME MOVE APPROVAL FOR THE TECHNICAL REVISIONS FROM THE

S.H.I.P. PROGRAM. >> SECOND.

>> SECONDED. I'LL INCLUDE BOTH OF THOSE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES AND THE CHAIR WILL VOTE AFFIRMATIVE.

COMMISSIONER BOLLA? >> AYE.

>> COMMISSIONER CELLA? >> AYE.

>> SO DONE. THANK YOU, LADIES.

STICK AROUND DON'T KNOW ANYWHERE.

THERE MAY BE SOMETHING EXCITING HAPPENING LATER ON TODAY.

>> OKAY. WE'RE READY.

>> ALL RIGHT. ITEM 14, SUNSHINE STATE GAMES

[14.  Sunshine State Games Bid Letter of Support]

I THINK THIS IS MORE PERFUNCTORY THAN ANYTHING.

>> KIMBERLY MORGAN SHOULD BE HERE.

>> KIM'S HERE? >> YES, SIR.

>> KIM, OKAY, WELL, SUNSHINE STATE GAMES.

TALK TO US. >> YES, SIR.

THE SUNSHINE STATE GAMES IS A SPORTING EVENT THAT AIRSTREAM VENTURES IS PUTTING FORTH A BID IN PREPARING FOR THAT.

AND THEY JUST WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE A LETTER FROM THE COUNTY SUPPORTING AND BASICALLY INVITING THEM TO CONSIDER CLAY COUNTY AS A DESTINATION FOR THEIR EVENT.

>> YEP AND INCLUDED IN OUR PACKAGE IS A LETTER THAT OUR COUNTY COMMANDANT HAS ALREADY DRAFTED.

IT WAS DONE SO WELL I THOUGHT I HAD WROTE IT.

AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT LETTER.

HAVE YOU RED READ THE LETTER, K? >> YES, SIR.

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>> DID YOU WRITE THAT? >> I WROTE THAT, SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT. THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE A VOTE, NOR DO I THINK IT'S EVEN REMOTELY CONTROVERSIAL.

SO WE'LL JUST SAY BLESS YOU AND GO AHEAD AND DO YOUR GOOD WORK,

OKAY? >> THANK YOU, SIR SCWHR

>> MR. CHAIR -- >> DO WE HAVE ANY CONCURRENCE OR

COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE FOLKS UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SUNSHINE GAMES ARE.

OLYMPIC STYLE TYPE OF COMPETITION.

FOLKS MAY NOT HAVE HEARD IT BEFORE.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FOOTBALL AT ALL.

IT'S JUST A VERY OLYMPIC TYPE GAME.

TRACK AND FIELD AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> AND, AGAIN, KIM, REMIND US OF THE TIMELINE ON THIS EVENT,

WOULD YOU? >> SO THIS PARTICULAR BID IS FOR 2021, 2022, AND 2023. THE FLORIDA SPORTS FOUNDATION WILL BE MAKING DESTINATION AWARDS LATER THIS SUMMER REGARDING WHERE THOSE EVENTS WILL TAKE PLACE IN THOSE THREE

YEARS. >> I ASSUME --

>> WE'RE CONSTANTLY WORKING ON PROJECTS LIKE THIS THAT WILL REQUIRE BID SUPPORT LETTERS. SO THAT WILL BE A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION AT THE NEXT TDC MEETING AS WELL, TO KIND OF STREAMLINE THIS PROCESS SO THAT YOU ALL CAN BE AWARE OF THOSE BID LETTERS AND THAT THE PROCESS IS SEAMLESS.

>> OKAY. I ASSUME -- THIS EVENT I THINK IS TARGETING OLYMPIC PEOPLE BUT IT'S NOT EXCLUDING CLAY COUNTY

RESIDENTS? >> NO, SIR, NO, SIR.

IN FACT, THERE'S A LOT OF MORE MATURE AND SEASONED ATHLETES AT THE FLORIDA -- THE SUNSHINE STATE GAMES.

SO IT'S OLYMPIC IN STYLE, AS IN THE DIFFERENT SIMULTANEOUS EVENT HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME IN A DESTINATION AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS POSSIBLY. BUT YOU MAY HAVE ARCHERY GOING ON AND SWIMMING GOING ON AND NOT ALL IN THE SAME VENUE BUT THEY'LL ALL BE HAPPENING IN THE SAME LOCATION.

>> VERY GOOD. IS THERE A MOTION TO SUPPORT

THIS LETTER? >> MOVED.

>> MOVE APPROVAL. >> ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER HUTCHINS MOVED APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER CELLA WITH A SECOND.

CONSIDER BOTH THOSE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.

COMMISSIONER ROLLINS? >> AYE.

>> COMMISSIONER BOLLA? >> AYE.

>> AND THE CHAIR MOTIONS IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ALSO.

VERY GOOD. MOVING ON TO COUNTY MANAGER'S

[COUNTY MANAGER/CLERK OF THE BOARD]

TIME. >> YES, SIR.

>> HOWARD, CAN YOU DO THIS IN AN HOUR?

>> OF COURSE. YES, SIR.

IN LOOKING AT THE TIMELINE, WE HAVE 16 MINUTES BEFORE OUR TIME CERTAIN. SO I HAD A FEW THINGS I'D LIKE TO BRIEF, WHICH WILL TAKE UP THAT PERIOD OF TIME.

SO I'LL FIRST START OFF WITH A COMMENT ABOUT -- FROM FLOTILLA 14-08 OF THE COAST GUARD AUXILIARY REQUESTED TO REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT NATIONAL SAFE BOATING WEEK STARTS THIS SATURDAY, MAY 16. AND THE COAST GUARD ESTIMATES THE HUMAN ERROR ACCOUNTS FOR 70% OF ALL BOATING ACCIDENTS AND THAT LIFE JACKETS COULD PREVENT NEARLY 84% OF VOTING FATALITIES.

SO THROUGH BASIC BOATING SAFETY PROCEDURES, CARRYING LIFE SAVING COMMUNICATION, WEARING LIFE JACKETS AND BY ALL MEANS STAYING SOBER WHEN NAVIGATING CAN HELP ENSURE BOATERS STAY SAFE THROUGHOUT THE SEASON. SECOND, AND I'LL JUST SHARE MY SCREEN HERE BRIEFLY ON THE REST OF THE ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT I HAVE. IT IS -- JUST A SECOND.

JUST WANT TO MENTION HERE, THIS WAS SENT OUT THE CLAY COUNTY UTILITY AUTHORITY FOR THE WEEK OF MAY 17TH-23RD IS WATER REUSE WEEK. AND AS EVERYONE KNOWS, OUR CCUA HAS BEEN VERY ACTIVE WITHIN THE WATER REUSE.

AND I JUST BROUGHT UP THE PROCLAMATION HERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE THE DATA THAT'S UP THERE. I WANTED TO BRIEF THAT.

NEXT, I WANT TO BRIEF YOU ALL JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NUMBERS AND GOING STRAIGHT TO THE DASHBOARD FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA. 41,923 CASES AS LISTED THERE.

SPECIFICALLY FOR CLAY COUNTY, 303 CASES.

CAN YOU ALL SEE THAT OR NO? >> NOT YET, NO.

>> THAT'S FINE, I'LL MAKE SURE I'LL SHARE.

JUST A SECOND. STOP SHARING AND RESHARE.

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THAT SHOULD BE THE DASHBOARD NOW.

>> YEP, GOOD TO GO. >> PERFECT.

AGAIN, TOTAL NUMBER OF CASES FOR FLORIDA, CASES FOR CLAY COUNTY IN THE MIDDLE PART OF THE SCREEN THERE.

303 POSITIVE CASES. WE WENT UP BY ONE SINCE YESTERDAY. AND NUMBER OF DEATHS ARE LISTED THERE AT 22. AND THEN THE NUMBER OF HOSPITALIZATIONS, THAT REMAINED THE SAME DAY OVER DAY.

AND THEN THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS WITHIN THE HOSPITAL, 82 TOTAL FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS BACK ON MARCH 12 WITH A DELTA DAY OVER DAY OF AN INCREASE BY THREE.

AND I ALSO CAN PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION TO YOU ALL THAT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AREA HOSPITALS, THERE ARE EIGHT PEOPLE IN ICU RIGHT NOW AS I'M SPEAKING. OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE OUT TO THEM SO THEY VIRUS.COVER FROM THIS DEADLY- NEXT IS I HAVE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT A LOAN.

LOW.SO OUR WEATHER IS GETTING INTERESTING.

HOPEFULLY YOU ALL SEE THAT ONE OR NO? LET ME UNSHARE AND RESHARE. OKAY.

Y'ALL SHOULD SEE A GRAPHIC OF THE STATE HERE.

HOW ABOUT NOW? NOTHING.

>> HERE WE GO. THAT'S THE ATLANTIC OCEAN.

>> ATLANTIC OCEAN, JUST OFF THE COAST HERE.

THE AREA THAT'S HERE, THERE'S A LOW IN THE ATLANTIC OFF OUR EAST COAST. A 50% CHANCE OA OVER THE NEXT FE DAYS TO GET CYCLIC ACTIVITY. AS YOU LOOK AT IT CLOSER, HERE'S SOME OF THE RADARS THAT ARE THERE.

AGAIN, ANOTHER GRAPHIC. I WANTED TO POINT OUT, ALSO, WHEN YO TAKE A LOOK AT THE TOTAL FORECASTED RAINFALL FOR THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS, NOT MUCH HERE.

IT WILL NOT IMPACT OUR AREA, AT LEAST AS PREDICTED.

AND I CAN TELL YOU WITH A VERY, VERY HUMIDITY THAT WE HAVE, FIRES ARE DEFINITELY OUT THERE. WE HAD A FIRE EARLIER TODAY AT ROSEMARY HILL. IT WAS A METAL FIRE.

METAL THAT WAS THERE THAT HAD CAUGHT ON FIRE AND SPARKS HAD STARTED THAT, IGNITED IT. AS YOU ALL CAN SEE HERE WITH REGARDS TO THE MODEL, AND THE TRACK FOR SATURDAY, SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY AND WHERE IT WILL BE, IT WILL STAY OFF THE EAST COAST THERE PER THE TRACK GUIDANCE AND MOVE UP TO THE NORTH AND INTO THE CENTRAL PART OF THE ATLANTIC.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? >> WHAT IS THIS INDICATIVE OF THE WEATHER? WHAT'S THE NEXUS BETWEEN THAT

AND COVID-19, OR IS THERE ONE? >> THAT'S VERY GOOD QUESTION.

SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, AS WE TAKE A LOOK AT OUR SHE SHELTERS, OUR AA SHELTERS, THE NUMBERS HAVE INCREASED FOR THE DISTANCE FOR THOSE THAT WOULD GO TO THE SHELTER GOES FROM 20 TO 110 FEET. AND FOR THOSE SPECIAL NEEDS, GOES FROM 60 60 FEET TO 160 FE. IT WILL REQUIRE US TO OPEN UP DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF SHELTERS WE NORMALLY HAVE.

IT WOULD BE COVERED -- IT WAS MENTIONMENTIONED DURING THE STAL THIS MORNING THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT THOSE COSTS SHOULD THAT OCCUR DURING COVID-19 AND THIS PANDEMIC WHILE WE'RE UNDER A LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR FEDERAL DOLLARS AND STATE FUNDING TO COVER FOR THAT EXTRA SPACE THAT WOULD BE NEEDED. AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP ABOUT WE'RE NEARING HURRICANE SEASON ON JUNE 1.

AND WE GOT ONE BREWING OUT THERE.

NOBODY NEEDS TO GO TO GQ ON THAT JUST YET. I WANTED EVERYBODY TO

BE INFORMED ABOUT IT. >> YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THE REAL MESSAGE IS HURRICANE SEASON DOESN'T START TO JUNE 1 AND HERE IT IS BEFORE MAY 15 AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE OUT THERE ALREADY. DID WE EVER COLLECT ALL OF OUR FEMA MONEY FROM THE LAST HURRICANE A YEAR AND A HALF AGO?

>> WE GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE AS DIRECTED DURING THIS PANDEMIC.

THERE'S STILL SOME MO MONEYS REMAIN.

I THINK IT'S JUST UNDER $1 MILLION.

I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER READILY AVAILABLE BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME PEOPLE ON THE PHONE CALL HERE THAT COULD ANSWER THAT.

I THINK CHIEF MOCK MOCK ARE YOU? >> YEAH, I AM.

PART OF THE REASON WE HAVE A HOLD UP ON SOME OF THOSE IS THAT WE HAVE CONTESTED SOME OF THE FINDINGS FROM FEMA.

SO WE'RE STILL IN ARBITRATION ON SOME OF THE AMOUNTS.

WE WON'T GET THE FINAL DOLLARS RELEASED UNTIL THAT'S RESOLVED.

>> CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IF I'M WRONG, IT WAS UNDER

$1 MILLION THAT WAS REMAINING? >> I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, ALSO, BUT THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION, YES, SIR.

>> ROUND NUMBERS, WE HAD ABOUT A $9 MILLION TO $10 MILLION HIT,

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>> THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION FOR THE STORM, YES, SIR.

>> SIR, THE NEXT ITEM I'LL BRING UP HERE.

JUST BY THE NUMBERS AND I'VE ASKED ANNALISA TO SEND THIS OUT TO YOU ALL PERIODICALLY. YOU CAN SEE BY THE NUMBERS THE NUMBER OF PRESS CONFERENCES WE'VE HAD TO DATE IS 12.

WE'LL HAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE TOMORROW ON -- AT OAK LEAF.

IT WILL BE AT OAK LEAF COMMUNITY PARK AT 9:00 TOMORROW, 13 MAY.

AND WE'LL BE OUT THERE, THAT'S ANOTHER ONE OF OUR TESTING SITES. AND AS WE'RE ON TESTING, TO DATE WE'VE TESTED 963 RESIDENTS. AND OUT OF THAT, WE'VE HAD 0 POSITIVES SO FAR OUT OF THOSE NUMBERS.

>> EXCELLENT. >> AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THE NUMBERS THAT ARE UP HERE, KIND OF BRIEF EACH WEEK.

REALLY IMPRESSIVE NUMBERS IN REGARDS TO SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE NUMBERS WE'RE REACHING THROUGH THAT.

FINALLY OUR HUMAN SERVICES NUMBER, 640,953 MEALS HAVE BEEN PASSED OUT AND WE'RE MODIFYING THAT PASS OUT TO FOUR SCHOOL AREAS AND TO HAVE THEM FLOW THROUGH THESE AREAS A LOT MORE EFFICIENTLY. AGAIN, THE FOOD BANKS ARE STILL ALSO DISTRIBUTING FOOD OUT THERE.

AND WE'RE TAKING CARE OF OUR FOLKS.

NOT ONLY ON THAT SIDE, WE'RE ALSO TAKING CARE OF OUR RESIDENTS ON APPLYING FOR JOBS WITH CAREERSOURCE AT THE JESSE GODBOLDT BUILDING AT THE FAIRGROUNDS.

PEOPLE CAN APPLY ON THE COMPUTER FOR A JOB.

THOSE ARE SOME OF THE NUMBERS THERE.

AND THEN GOING BACK -- AND LET'S SEE -- FINALLY JUST, AGAIN, TO KNOW THAT WE'RE AT QUARTER SPEED.

SO THAT'S RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL ARE AT 25% CAPACITY.

AND THOSE ELECTIVE SURGERIES ARE NOW AUTHORIZED.

YOU DEFINITELY CAN SEE IT IN THE TRAFFIC OUT THERE.

IF ANYBODY VISITED ANY OF THE LOCAL RETAIL HERE, YOU CAN DEFINITELY SEE PEOPLE ARE OUT AND ABOUT AND BUYING MOTHER'S DAY GIFTS OVER THE WEEKEND. IT'S VERY GOOD TO SEE THAT PEOPLE AND THE RESIDENTS ARE TAKING THIS ALL SERIOUSLY, WEARING MASKS WHILE THEY'RE OUT THERE.

THE RETAIL STORES ARE ENSURING THAT THEY ARE KEEPING THE NUMBERS, THE MAX CAPACITIES THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED AT THAT 25%.

AND HAVING EXPERIENCED THAT PERSONALLY, I WAS ASKED TO STEP OUT WITH MY DAUGHTERS UNTIL THE NUMBERS WENT DOWN.

THEIR MAX CAPACITY WAS FIVE AND WE JUST HAD TO WAIT A COUPLE MINUTES AND WERE ALLOWED TO GO IN.

HAND SANITIZER AND THAT SOCIAL DISTANCING WHILE PEOPLE ARE IN LINES IS DEFINITELY BEING ADHERED TO.

SO REALLY GOOD THINGS OUT THERE. PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION.

YOU CAN SEE THAT WITH THE NUMBERS.

SO WITH THAT, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO BRIEF THE BOARD. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?

>> HEARING NONE, THANK YOU, COUNTY MANAGER.

COUNTY ATTORNEY? >> YES, I JUST HAVE ONE BRIEF

[COUNTY ATTORNEY]

WHICH IS THE PROPERTY ASSESSMENT CLEAN ENERGY PROGRAM.

I BELIEVE THE COMMISSIONER FROM SARASOTA HAS CONTACTED MANY OF YOU TO DISCUSS THE PROGRAM. AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING, THE BOARD'S DIRECTION WAS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AMENDING THE AGREEMENT WITH THE PACE PROGRAM TO PROVIDE FOR IT TO ONLY APPLY TO COMMERCIAL AND TO ELIMINATE THE RESIDENTIAL.

AND WORKING THROUGH CONTACTING THE PACE PROGRAM TO TRY AND FACILITATE THAT AMENDMENT, THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON THAT PROPOSAL.

SO IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD AND SEE IF WE CAN ACTUALLY WORK OUT AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM TO AMEND THE AGREEMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THE ITEM BACK ON FOR DISCUSSION ON THE BOARD'S MAY 26TH AGENDA TO ALLOW THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE PACE PROGRAM TO COMMENT OR DISCUSS WITH THE COMMISSIONERS THEIR THOUGHTS AND WHETHER THEY ARE AMENABLE TO MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT TYPE OF AN AMENDMENT OR IF THE BOARD WOULD THEN WANT TO MOVE FORWARD IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

>> WELL, I ALWAYS LOOK FORWARD TO SEEKING OUT NEW INFORMATION.

AND IF THOSE GOOD FOLKS HAVE SOMETHING THEY NEED TO SHARE WITH US, THAT MAY CHANGE OR ALTER OUR OPINION AT LEAST TOWARDS THE POSITIVE, I'M CERTAINLY AMENABLE TO LISTENING TO THEIR PRESENTATION. HOW ABOUT YOU FOLKS?

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>> IT'S REALLY UP TO THEM. IF THEY WANT TO COME IN, I'VE TALKED TO COMMISSIONER MORANAMORAN WHOIS ON THE BOARD .

HE'S ON THE BOARD FOR THE PATE E PROGRAM.

YOU KNOW WHERE HIS ALLEGIANCES FALL.

MY ATTITUDE AND OPINION HASN'T CHANGED EVEN AFTER DISCUSSING IT WITH HIM. IF HE WANTS TO SPEND THE TIME TO COME U IN WE'LL BE GLAD TO HAVE HIM. AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN IS ALSO WELL-REPRESENTED.

IT'S INTERESTING THAT, YOU KNOW, COLLIER COUNTY E W WHICH HAPPENO BE IN PROXIMITY TO SARSOTA DID THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO AND THEY APPARENTLY DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM LETTING THEM LET THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE PROGRAM GO AND CONTINUING THE COMMERCIAL. I'M NOT SURE WHAT SIXTY SEVEN CR MORAN WOULD SAY IN THAT DEFENSE IF THEY WANT TO COME BY OR CALL IN, I HAVE NO PROBLEM. IT'S GOING TO DELAY THE INEVITABLE AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

>> OKAY. >> DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO

CANCEL THE CONTRACT PERIOD? >> WE DO HAVE A PROVISION IN THE AGREEMENT THAT PROVIDES FOR TERMINATION WITH A 60-DAY

NOTICE. >> OKAY.

>> AN THAT CONTRACT, COURTNEY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN IT COMES TO A CONCLUSION SOME TIME SOON AS WELL?

>> IT'S EITHER IN THE FALL OR THE VERY BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR.

IN CONNECTION WITH CANCELING THE PROGRAM, WHEN IT'S TERMINATED, THE ONES THAT ARE STILL IN THE PIPELINE, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE TAX ROLL FOR 2017, '18, '19.

THOSE WILL FINISH OUT. IT DOESN'T CANCEL THOSE OUT.

IT JUST TERMINATES THE PROGRAM SO NOBODY NEW CAN ENTER THE

PROGRAM. >> WORKS FOR ME.

>> I'M FINE WITH LETTING THEM COME AND SPEAK.

I FEEL PRETTY MUCH LIKE COMMISSIONER CELLA.

I DON'T THINK IT WILL CHANGE MY OPINION BUT CERTAINLY OPEN TO

BEING HOSPITABLE. >> CLAY COUNTY ALWAYS WELCOMES, RIGHT? GAVIN, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS

ON THAT? >> I MEAN, I AGREE WITH -- WE CAN ALWAYS LET SOMEONE COME AND SPEAK.

THE THING I SHARED WITH THEM WAS, HEY, YOU GOT TO -- IF WHAT IS BEING SAID BY THE REALTORS IS NOT TRUE, YOU GOT TO GET WITH THEM AND SORT THAT OUT. BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF HE SAID/SHE SAID. IT'S LIKE, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THAT, BUT I DO THINK THE REALTORS ARE PRETTY KNOWLEDGEABLE IN THAT ARENA. SO DEFINITELY CARRIES A LOT OF WEIGHT WHAT THEY SAY. I THINK THEY NEED TO FIGURE THINGS OUT ON SOME LEVEL, IF THERE'S A MISCOMMUNICATION.

>> OKAY. >> THANK YOU.

>> CAN YOU RELAY THAT TO HIM, SEE IF HE'S STILL INTERESTED IN

COMING TO SPEAK TO US? >> I SURE WILL.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

IF HE IS, WE'LL SCHEDULE HIM AT SOME POINT IN TIME.

ANYTHING ELSE, COURTNEY? >> THAT'S IT.

>> LET'S GO TO OUR TIME CERTAIN. ITEM 15.

[15.  5:00 PM TIME CERTAIN or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Consideration of an Ordinance amending the Code Enforcement Ordinance of Clay County to add a provision providing for the establishment of a Code Enforcement Lien Amnesty Program and, thereafter, approval of the Lien Amnesty Program criteria]

T.CHARICE ARE YOU STILL WITH US? >> I AM.

WHAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU TODAY IS SOMETHING YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN ALREADY. I BROUGHT IT TO THE BOARD A COUPLE MU MU MONTHS AGO TO PITCE IDEA TO YOU FOR A LIEN AMNESTY FOR OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM.

IT WOULD RUN FROM JULY 1 THROUGH DECEMBER 31.

AND IT WOULD ALLOW FOLK WHOSE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OF THEIR PROPERTIES -- NOT JUST ANY CURRENT CODE ENFORCEMENT PROPERTY. WE'LL CHECK ALL THEIR PROPERTIES AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE, MAKE SURE THEIR TAXES ARE PAID UP. WE WILL INSPECT THE PROPERTIES BEFORE WE GO FORWARD WITH IT. AND THEN THEY HAVE 30 DAYS TO PAY. IF THEY MEET ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS, WE WOULD ALLOW THEM TO REDUCE THEIR LIENS BY A MAXIMUM OF 90% UP TO 1,000 DOLLARS.

SO ESSENTIALLY AT THE END OF TE DAY, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE 1,000 DOLLARS LEAD, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PAY -- THEY'RE GOING TO PAY ALMOST THE WHOLE AMOUNT. IF THEY'VE GOT A $15,000 LIEN THEY'RE GOING TO PAY A MAXIMUM OF 1,000 THOUSAND DOLLARS.

BUT THE BING BIG THING IS THEY E COMPLIANT BEFORE THIS CAN

[01:00:01]

THEY'RE ALMOST FINISHED WOULD THEIR AMNESTY PERIOD.

THEIR AMNESTY PERIOD HAS BEEN FROM JANUARY THROUGH JUNE.

SO FAR THEY'VE HAD 20 APPLICATIONS.

OUT OF THOSE 20, 16 HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

THEY'VE COLLECTED ALMOST $15,000.

BUT THE KEY THING IS THAT 16 CASES THAT THEY'VE GOTTEN OFF OF THEIR DOCKET AND BEEN ABLE TO FINALLY CLOSE THE CASE OUT.

SO SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING, YOU GUYS HAVE SOME INFORMATION. YOU SHOULD HAVE A COUPLE OF ATTACHMENTS THAT ANSWER A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS ABOUT ELIGIBILITY AND TERMS AND THAT KIND OF THING.

I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS. IF YOU GOT SPECIFIC QUESTIONS I CAN HELP YOU ANSWER ON THIS. AND, ALSO, WE'VE HAD TO AMEND OUR ORD ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE FOE LIEN AMNESTY PROGRAM AS WELL.

>> ONE-TIME THING, OR DOES IT GO FOREVER? > SO IT'S -- CURRENTLY WE'RE GOING TO TRY IT ONCE THAT'S WHY WE ALSO EDITED THE ORDINANCE. IF SOMETHING WE LIKE AND WE THINK IT WORKS WE DON'T HAVE TO WHCOME BACK WITH THE ORDINANCE AGAIN. WE TWEAKED THE ORDINANCE SO IT'S OPEN ENDED. IF THIS WORKS WE MIGHT TRY IN TWO OR THREE YEARS TO GET THE CASES OFF THE DOCT.

DOCKET.RIGHT NOW IT'S A ONE-TIM. >> MAY 1 TO DECEMBER 1, --

>> YES, SIR. >> MR. CHAIR?

>> SECOND. >> I THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'VE SAT THROUGH -- WE HAVE, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S EITHER THEY DON'T PAY AND THERE'S THIS HUGE LONG FEE THAT OCCURS AND THEN THEY EVENTUALLY SELL AND THEN THE NEW OWNER COMES TO US AND SAYS PLEASE FORGIVE IT ALL.

AND THIS IS A WAY TO TRY TO GET COMPLIANCE, WHICH IS THE

ULTIMATE GOAL. >> IT'S CAUSED COMMISSIONER BOLLA CONSTERNATION FROM TIME TO TIME.

>> YEAH, IT DOES. I TRIED EVERYTHING I CAN DO.

>> THE PART THAT MAKES THIS ATTRACTIVE TO ME IS THOSE WORDS PEOPLE THAT ARE IN COMPLIANCE. OKAY.

SO THEY'VE MADE THE EFFORT TO CLEAN UP THEIR MESS AND THEN, YOU KNOW -- I CANNOT US SEE NOT GIVING THEM A LITTLE BREAK IN REWARD FOR THEIR F EFFORT THEY T FORWARD. THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ON

IT. >> SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE HOW ARE WE GOING TO COMMUNICATE THIS TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN THAT

SITUATION? >> SO GREAT QUESTION, COMMISSIONER HUTCHINS. WE HAVE A LETTER PREPARED TO SEND OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERSS EXPLAINING THIS WHOLE PROCESS.

EXPLAINING THE TIMEFRAME, IT EXPLAINS THE $100 APPLICATION FEE. MY PHONE NUMBER WILL BE ON IT, CODE ENFORCEMENT'S NUMBER WILL BE ON IT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WE WILL SEND OUT A LETTER.

>> PERFECT. VERY GOOD.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> IN ADDITION TO THE $100 APPLICATION FEE, THEY WOULD ALSO OWE AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE OF $250 PLUS WHATEVER THEIR PERCENTAGE OF THE LIEN WOULD BE?

>> UP TO $1,000, YES, SIR. AND ACTUALLY, SO WHEN THEY TURN IN THEIR APPLICATION AND THEY PAY THAT FEE OF $100.

IF IT'S ONE WE ACCEPT -- BECAUSE THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE -- THEY ACTUALLY GET $100 CREDIT TOWARD THEIR ADMIN FEE.

SO THEY'RE ONLY PAYING $150 ADMIN FEE.

>> TOTAL IS $250 ALL TOGETHER, YEAH.

>> YES, SIR. >> OKAY.

>> WELL, I REALLY THINK IF I WAS ONE OF THOSE FOLKS THAT WERE IN THAT CATEGORY AND I WOULD KNOW TO THE COUNTY AND HAVE $15,000 AND HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THAT LIEN AWAY.

MY BUTT WOULD BE OUT THERE IN THAT YARD CLEANING IT UP.

IT REALLY WOULD. NOT ONLY WOULD A LOT OF PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS BUT I THINK IT WOULD SPUR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE TO GET IN COMPLIANCE SO THEY CAN

TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. >> YES, SIR.

AND THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE SIX MONTHS.

WE WANT THEM TO GET WORD OF THIS AND, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM SOME TIME IF THEY HAVE MULTIPLE PROPERTIES EVEN THAT ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE. THIS GIVES THEM THE TIME TO GET THAT INTO COMPLIANCE AND THEN ASK FOR THAT.

>> VERY GOOD. I ASSUME SINCE YOU DID ALL THE WORK IN THIS AND LISTENING TO YOUR VERBIAGE THAT YOU'RE TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES, SIR. I MEAN, IT CAN'T HURT IN MY OPINION TO GIVE IT A SHOT AND SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME OF THOSE FOLKS INTO COMPLIANCE THAT WE'VE BEEN AFTER.

WE HONESTLY HAVE ABOUT ONE FIFTH OF OUR CASES THAT ARE IN COMPLIANCE CURRENTLY, BUT THERE'S STILL A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY. I MEAN, THEORETICALLY SPEAKING

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SO THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE THE EASY -- THE QUICK WINS, AS YOU WOULD CALL THEM. THOSE OTHERS THAT HAVE TO STILL CLEAN UP THEIR PROPERTIES, THERE'S STILL AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO IT AFFORDABLY.

>> I KNOW YOU STARTED WORKING ON THIS BEFORE THE PANDEMIC I JUST WANT TO CAUTION US LET'S DON'T BE DISCOURAGED IF WE DON'T HAVE A GREAT RESPONSE. I WOULD STILL GIVE IT ANOTHER TRY AGAIN IN THE FUTURE. HOPEFULLY BETTER TIMED.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> WHAT ARE THE COMMISSIONERS THINKING ABOUT -- ANY QUESTIONS OR FURTHER COMMENTS? WE'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS.

DOES ANYONE OUTSIDE THIS PARTICULAR GROUP THAT WANTS TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL?

>> YES, SIR, YOU HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT FROM MR. OTTO.

>> MR. OTTO, GO AHEAD MR. OTTO? SPEAK UP, MR. OTTO.

>> YES, SIR. --

CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> GO AHEAD.

>> YES, SIR. I'M ONE OF THOSE WHO IS SIN IN COMPLIANCE BUT I HAD AN ISSUE THAT WAS OVERCHARGED.

THEY CHARGED ME $100. ON THE ORDINANCE FEE, IT WAS INTENTIONALLY CHARGED, I'M SURE. BUT THE ORDINANCE IS $25 PER PARCEL AND I WAS CHARGED FOR FOUR PARCELS AND I ONLY OWN THREE PARCELS IN CLAY COUNTY. THERE IS ONLY TWO THAT HAVE BEEN CITED. THERE'S TWO ADDRESSES.

SO YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU SHOULD FIRE CHARICE, IT'S NONSENSE.

IT'S # $50, NOT $100. $25 PER PARCEL.

THCOUNTY MANAGER, GO BACK AND LK AT IT.

IT'S WITCHCRAFT. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING,

SIR? >> I HEAR YOU, GO AHEAD.

>> NO LUCK ABOUT IT. THAT'S WITCHCRAFT.

SO I'VE ASKED THE COUNTY MANAGER TO LOOK AT REPLACING CHARICE STUART. I THINK THEY MIGHT FIND SHE BE DISMISSED. SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN CHARGING ME $100 WHEN THE ORDINANCE SAYS $25 A PARCEL.

>> MR. OTTO, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A RESPONSE FROM THIS CHAIR, LET ME SAY THIS. I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH MS. STUART AND IT WAS PRETTY WELL DOCUMENTED THAT YOU DIDN'T FOLLOW UP ON YOUR APPLICATION. THERE WAS STILL THINGS YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT YOU DECLINED TO DO.

SO IT PRETTY WELL STOPPED YOUR APPLICATION.

SO I SUGGEST YOU -- WELL, LET ME SAY THIS.

I SUGGEST YOU CHECK WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT.

WHATEVER THEY REQUIRE YOU TO DO TO MAKE THE APPLICATION YOU DO IT RATHER THAN HALF STEPPING, OKAY? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE ACTION ON AN INCOMPLETE

APPLICATION. >> SIR, IT WAS $50, NOT $100.

SHE OVERCHARGED ME. I WENT IN FRONT OF A MAGISTRATE.

>> I DON'T THINK YOU'RE CORRECT, SIR.

I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR MS. STUART'S TIME TO RESPOND TO YOU AT THIS POINT IN TIME. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION OFFLINE, I'D BE GLAD TO TALK WITH YOU.

OTHERWISE, JUST DO WHAT THEY REQUIRE.

I DON'T THINK THEY'RE TREATING YOU ANY DIFFERENT THAN ANYONE ELSE. SO WHATEVER IT IS, IT IS.

AND YOU'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT TO WORK THAT OUT.

>> THAT'S FINE, WE CAN MEET WITH MR. WANNAMAKER ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

I'VE ALREADY SPOKE TO HIM ABOUT IT.

>> I SUGGEST YOU SPEAK TO HIM AGAIN, THEN.

OR EITHER CONTACT ME OFFLINE. IF THERE'S A PROBLEM IN THERE, I'D BE GLAD TO WORK IT OUT. I UNDERSTAND THEY DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. AND YOU WERE THE ONE T AT FAULT

FOR NOT FOLLOWING UP ON IT. >> THEY OVERCHARGED ME.

>> ANYTHING ELSE, MR. OTTO? >> YES, SIR.

THEY OVERCHARGED ME. GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE

ORDINANCE. >> WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING AT THIS POINT IN TIME. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO

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DISCUSS? >> YES, THE COUNTY MANAGER

SHOULD FIRE CHARICE STUART. >> THOSE COMMENTS ARE OUT OF ORDER AND WE'RE GOING TO END THIS DISCUSSION, MR. OTTO.

FEEL FREE TO CALL ME ON MY TELEPHONE AT ANY TIME.

MOVING RIGHT ON, ANY OTHER PERSON THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE? YOU HAVE NO ONE ELSE HOLDING?

>> NO, SIR. >> ALL RIGHT.

GOOD. GOOD.

WE'LL CONTINUE ON. AGAIN, WE NEED -- FIRST OF ALL, ANY COMMISSIONERS GOT ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE

WE TAKE A VOTE? >> NO, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO COMMEND CHARICE STUART FOR MOVING FORWARD TO TRY TO GET US OFF THE DIME ON THIS. WE'VE BEEN -- AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, PAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT EVERY TIME ONE OF THESE ISSUES HAVE COME UP.

SHE'S COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, SORT OF AN INNOVATIVE PLAN TO SEE IF WE CAN CORRECT SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS. YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. BUT LET ME INTERRUPT JUST A MOMENT. WE NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS PART OF OUR OFFICIAL PROTOCOL. BAWE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND. COMMISSIONER CELLA, I ASSUME

YOU'RE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, SIR? >> LET ME CLARIFY THE MOTION.

>> YES. >> SOTHE MOTION WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE THAT'S AMENDING THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE PROGRAM, BUT THEN ALSO DOES YOUR MOTION INCLUDE APPROVAL OF THE PARAMETERS OF THE PROGRAM THAT CHARICE HAS LAID OUT?

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? WE'LL DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME THEN.

COMMISSIONER ROLLINS WAS YOU THE ONE THAT SECONDED THIS?

>> YES, SIR. >> ALL RIGHT.

I'LL CONSIDER BOTH OF THOSE FOLKS IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

COMMISSIONER HUTCHINS? COMMISSIONER BOLLA?

>> YES. >> AND THE CHAIR VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. WHICH MEANS THAT IT HAS PASSED.

ALL RIGHT. ON TO ITEMS 16.

[16.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Ordinance and Resolution to True-Up the CIP]

OLGA, ARE YOU WITH US? >> START WITH MIKE PRICE FIRST.

>> MIKE, ARE YOU THERE? >> I'M HERE, YES, SIR.

>> GO FOR IT T.. >> THE COUNTY MANAGER HAS ASKED ME TO START OFF HERE BY TAKING A LOOK AT THE CIP, THE LAST APPROVED CIP AND INTEGRTED THE BOND PROCEEDS FOR THAT.

WHWHICH YOU SHOULD HAVE THE FILE WITH YOU NOW.

YOU HAVE A RED SHEET ON YOUR SCREEN.

>> YES. >> THIS IS FUND 305.

THIS IS WHAT YOU APPROVED LAST FALL WITH THE -- YOU FOLLOW MY TRACK BALL HERE -- PRIOR YEAR CARRIES FORWARD.

THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. AS YOU COME DOWN, WITHOUT THE BOND PROCEEDS, YOU CAN SEE THAT RIGHT HERE ONCE WE TOOK THE BOND PROCEEDS OUT AND FUNDED THE BOND PROJECTS, THIS IS WHAT 305 LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU TAKE OUT ALL THE BOND PROJECTS.

YOU CAN SEE CLEARLY DOWN HERE, TWO YEARS FROM NOW YOU'VE GOT ABOUT AN 8 $.6 MILLION SHORTFALL IN TERMS OF PROJECTS YOU HAVE LISTED. OF COURSE, THAT CARRIES FORWARD AS A CASH DEFICIT GOING INTO YEAR FISCAL YEAR 23/24.

THAT'S WHAT WE STARTED OFF THIS DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL RECALL WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT GOING OUT AND SEEKING THE BOND FUNDING. WE REMOVED THOSE PROJECTS AND ACCOUNT FOR THE BOND PROCEEDS WE'RE THEN GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND RECONFIGURE A CIP FROM 305 TO INCORPORATE THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS AND ALSO TO TAKE OUT THE BOND PROJECTS.

SO THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WITHOUT MAKING ANY CHANGES.

SO COUNTY MANAGER DIRECTED STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE.

GO THROUGH THE FINE TOOTHED COMB.

I WORKED WITH THE BUDGET DIRECTOR AND DEPARTMENT HEADS TO GO THROUGH THIS. WE ELIMINATED SOME REVENUES WE DON'T HAVE DOCUMENTATION FOR. WE ADDED SOME OTHER REVIEWS THAT

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THEN WE ACCOUNTED FOR THE RESIDUAL SURTAX THAT GOES IN.

WHEN WE DID ALL THAT, SEPARATED THE PROJECTS OUT -- I'M GOING TO CLOSE THIS FILE NOW -- WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS GOING TO -- HANG ON. I KNOT TO GET THE OTHER FILE HERE. THIS FILE I'M GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AFTERWARDS. NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AFTERWARDS. IT'S THE WRONG ONE.

BEAR WITH ME FOR JUST A MOMENT. >> YES, SIR.

OKAY. AFTER YOU ADJUSTED IT, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. YOU CAN SEE CLEARLY THAT ONCE WE ACCOUNTED FOR THAT AND MOVED ALL THIS AROUND, YOU SEE IT IN 23/24 THAT DEFICIT HAS DISAPPEARED. AND NOW WE HAVE ABOUT A $2 MILLION SURPLUS. SO THAT -- WHAT WE DID WAS WE TOOK THE EXPENDITURES THAT WERE IN THE FUND 305 EXPENDITURES.

REMOVED ALL THE BOND PROJECTS TO PUT THAT IN THE BOND PROJECT CONSTRUCTION FUND, THE NEW FUND. AND THEN TOOK A CAREFUL LOOK AT ALL THE REMAINING THINGS SO WE COULD ARRANGE THEM AND SPREAD THEM OUT OVER THE YEARS IN AND HONORING THE PRIORITIES THE BOARD HAD. HOWARD, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE SPECIFICALLY THAT YOU WANTED MOO YOU WANTED METO TOUCH ON?

>> I THINK IT'S KEY, MIKE, TO SAY WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU SAY THERE'S A SURPLUS OF 1 $.8 MILLION WITH THE UNKNOWN THAT FACES US AHEAD. SO THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS YOU BRIEFED WAS THAT WE GOT OUT OF THE DEFICIT AND GOT US AT LEAST UP INTO THE 1 $.8 MILLION. NOW WHAT I WOULD SAY AND MAYBE TOO MUCH FR FOR THIS HEARING, T IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND VERBALLY TALKING ABOUT IT. I KNOW YOU HAVE A SPREADSHEET ON IT. WORST CASE SCENARIO GOING FORWARD, WE SEE HEFTY NUMBERS WE COULD BE FACING AHEAD OF US FOR THE REST OF THIS YEAR AND INTO THE OUTER YEARS. SO MY COMMENT TO THAT WOULD JUST BE THAT WE'RE POISED TO ADDRESS THAT WITH THIS REVISED CIP PLAN. BUT, AGAIN, THE NUMBERS THAT YOU USED FOR SALES SURTAX WERE CONSERVATIVE, BUT DID NOT TAKE THAT WORST CASE SCENARIO INTO PLAY, CORRECT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. AND A PICTURE IS WORTH 1,000 WORDS. HERE'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO.

YOU CAN SEE ALL THE RED IN THIS. THAT'S CONTEMPLATING A 30% REDUCTION IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE SALES SURTAX.

UNDER THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, WE CERTAINLY THE PRIORITY WOULD BE TO SERVICE THE DEBT. WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT BUT INSTEAD OF HAVING AS MUCH AS WE THOUGHT WE'D HAVE LEFT OVER WE'D PROBABLY ONLY HAVE SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ABOUT $5 MILLION TO $6 MILLION TO CARRY FORWARD INTO FUND 305.

YOU'D BE LOOKING AT SOME SIGNIFICANT REDUCTIONS IN THE CAPITAL -- IN THE OTHER PART OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

THE SIX BOND PROJECTS, THEY'RE FUNDED.

THEY'RE COMPLETELY FUNDED. WE HAVE THE CASH ON HAND TO DO THAT. IF YOU TAKE THIS KIND OF A HIT, THEN THE BOARD IS LOOKING AT HAVING TO GO BACK AND TAKE A VERY CAREFUL LOOK AT THE PROJECTS THAT H THEY HAD CONTEMN PLATED AND DEFERRING MANY OF THOSE OUT TO THE FUTURE.

IT WOULD BE A REAL PRIORITY CHORE FOR ALL OF US.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? >> MIKE, I NOTICED ON THE ROAIVW SIDE THERE'S NOTHING ON THE IMPACT FEES.

IS THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE?

>> IT REPRESENTS A BUDGET CHALLENGE, CHAIRMAN.

WE KNOW HOW MUCH WE GET IMPACT FEES AFTER WE COLLECT THEM FOR A YEAR. GOING FORWARD WE HAVE A NUMBER OF IMPACT FEE CREDIT ARRANGEMENTS OUT THERE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO PREDICT WHAT THE NET BETWEEN --

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THE PHILOSOPHY FOR BUDGET IS THAT YOU BUDGET THAT IN ARREARS.

AT THE END OF THIS YEAR WE'LL KNOW HOW MUCH CHARICE COLLECTED FOR THIS YEAR AND WE'LL CARRY IT FORWARD GOING INTO NEXT YEAR.

WE'LL DO A LOOK BACK AND MAKE THAT A COMPONENT OF CASH CARRY

FORWARD IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. >> IT IS SAFE TO SAY THAT WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE INCOME FROM IMPACT FEES AND THAT WILL GO TO OFFSET

WHATEVER DEBT WE MIGHT INCUR. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

YES. IT WILL EITHER -- IT SHOULD GO FOR PROJECTS THAT -- OF COURSE, THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE EXPENDITURES. I THINK IF YOU'LL ASK OLGA, WHEN SHE APPEARS NEXT, THE IMPACT FEES I BELIEVE ARE GOING TO BE IN YOUR BUDGET IS GOING TO BE BUDGETED SEPARATELY IN THEIR OWN FUNDS. THAT WAY YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE TRAFFORTRANSFERRED TO SO YOU'LLW THEY'RE BEING SPENT APPROPRIATELY.

>> OKAY. >> THAT YOU WILL LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THIS YEAR THAN WHAT YOU'RE USED TO IN THE PAST.

>> QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS FOR MR. >> MIKE, I GUESS THE BIG QUESTION IS THE REVENUE SIDE. ESPECIALLY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE SALES SURTAX. SO 30% IS SORT OF -- OBVIOUSLY IT'S A GUESSTIMATE AT THIS POINT? YOU DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF INDICATION AS TO WHAT THAT'S

GOING TO BE? >> ABSOLUTELY.

IF I WERE CERTAIN ABOUT WHAT THE REAL IMPACT WAS GOING TO BE, THEN THERE WOULD BE PEOPLE FROM WALL STREET AND WASHINGTON, D.C.

CALLING ME EVERY DAY. >> YOU MEAN THEY'RE NOT CALLING

YOU EVERY DAY? >> ALL OF THIS STUFF IS LOCKED IN JELLO. NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THIS IMPACT IS GOING TO BE. WE HAVE SOME DISCLOSURES WE'VE GOT TO MAKE ABOUT THIS BOND, ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVE BEEN GETTING CERTAINLY SOUNDS SAFE.

HOW MUCH THIS IMPACT AFFECTS US IS GOING TO DEPEND ON HOW FAST THE COUNTRY GETS BACK TO WORK AGAIN AND HOW MUCH THE ACTUAL REVENUE LOSS IS GOING TO BE. RIGHT NOW, IF THE WORST CASE SCENARIO HAPPENS ACROSS OUR MAJOR REVENUE SOURCES, WE'D LOSE ABOUT PROBABLY $13 MILLION TO $14 MILLION FOR THE REMAINING PART OF THIS YEAR. YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR, IT WOULD BE SOMEWHERE AROUND $60 MILLION. IF THE WORST CASE HAPPENS.

BUT IF THE COUNTRY GETS BACK TO WORK AND WE OPEN UP AND THE VIRUS GOES AWAY AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER GOOD THINGS HAPPEN, BEST CASE SCENARIO, CERTAINLY THAT HIT WON'T BE AS BIG.

THE OTHER VARIABLE OUT THERE IS THERE'S A GATHERING MOVEMENT TO PRESSURE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO PROVIDE STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT RELIEF FOR LOST REVENUES.

IF THAT WOULD HAPPEN, THAT AFFECTS THE PICTURE.

SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S BETWEEN THE MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM POTENTIAL EFFECTS, JUST ABOUT ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.

WHAT I'VE SHOWN YOU IS WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE BASED ON ALL THE INFORMATION I GATHERED AND THE ABSOLUTE WORST CASE.

>> MIKE, WHEN WILL -- WE KNOW LAST MONTH WAS PRETTY MUCH A DISASTER. WHEN WILL THAT SHOW UP IN OUR REVENUE STREAM THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IT?

>> WELL THAT QUESTION CAME UP AT FINANCE COMMITTEE.

IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE WAY THAT MOST OF OUR REVENUE STREAMS WORK, WE COLLECT THEM IN ARREARS. EVERYTHING FROM UTILITY SERVICE TAX TO COMMUNICATION SERVICES TAX.

ALL OF OUR SALES TAX STREAMS ARE ALL COLLECTED TWO MONTHS IN ARREARS. SO WHAT WE'RE GETTING RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE WILL GET ON MAY 20TH IS WHAT WAS COLLECTED IN MARCH.

SO IF YOU'RE A VENDOR AND COLLECTING SALES TAX, YOU COME UP TO MAY 20 AND YOU'RE FILING A CLAIM AND WRITING A CHECK TO DOR FOR THE MONEY YOU COLLECTED LAST MONTH.

YOU'RE SENDING THEM IN THE 20TH OF MAY AND THAT MONEY WILL COME TO US 20TH OF JUNE. NEXT MONTH IS WHEN WE'RE GOING TO START TO SEE WHAT THE INITIAL IMPACTS ON OUR REVENUE ARE GOING TO BE. AND AS SOON AS WE START SEEING THE AMOUNTS TRICKLE IN, WE'LL BE ABLE RECORD REPORTING THAT TO TD AND STARTING A TIMELINE ON THAT SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIRECTION

IT'S GOING. >> JULY, AUGUST OUGHT TO CLEAR THIS UP PRETTY GOOD AS TO WHERE WE'RE -- AT LEAST FROM THIS INITIAL HIT -- GOING TO BE, RIGHT?

>> THAT'S SAFE TO SAY. YEAH.

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AS WE ALL KNOW, HE'S IN THE MIDDLE OF BUDGET SEASON RIGHT NOW. THAT'S A TOUGH BUDGET PLAN WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET .

WE PROBABLY WON'T TAKE MUCH OF A HIT IN PROPERTY TAXES FROM A VALUATION STANDPOINT BECAUSE THE VALUATION IS SET GOING INTO THIS. FROM A COLLECTION STANDPOINT -- IF WE'VE GOT 20% UNEMPLOYMENT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE JOBS, THEY DON'T HAVE CASH TO PAY THEIR MORTGAGE PAYMENT.

THEY'RE ESCROWING TAXWISE TCROWH THEIR MORTGAGE PAYMENT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COLLECTION PROBLEM.

THE VALUATION IS KNOWING TO BE E GOOD BUT WE'LL HAVE A COLLECTION PROBLEM WHICH IS DIFFERENT. AND THAT'S AN UNKNOWN.

THAT'S ALL DEPENDENT ON EMPLOYMENT AND WHETHER EMPLOYMENT BOUNCES BACK. YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD W RECOVERY VERSUS V RECOVERY. EVERYBODY'S HOPING THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SUDDEN V RECOVERIES WHERE WE RECOVER FAIRLY QUICKLY.

I'M NOT AN ECONOMIST, SO I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THAT IS.

AS MORE INFORMATION COMES IN WE'LL BE REPORTING ROUTINELY TO

THE BOARD. >> OKAY.

THANKS, MIKE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. PRICE? ARE WE READY TO MOVE ON TO OLGA?

>> YES, SIR. OLGA WILL BRIEF US ON THE -- AN INITIAL -- MR. OTTO, WE'RE NOT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT JUST YET.

WE'RE GOING TO GET THROUGH THE SLIDES AND GET THROUGH THIS POINT AND IT WILL BE BROUGHT UP HERE AT THE END.

OLGA WILL BRIEF US FIRST ON THE CURRENT YEAR AND ANY CHANGES.

SHE E-MAILED OUT TO AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET AND SHE'LL BE BRINGING IT UP ON THE SCREEN. IT WILL GIVE YOU DETAILS OF EACH LINE AND WHY SOMETHING CHANGED. SO AS YOU LOOK AT THAT, MIKE'S BRIEFED US ON THE REVENUE SIDE. AND NOW HERE ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE AS HE ALLUDED TO. IT'S BEEN CLEANED UP, TRUED UP, AND ITEMS THAT WOULD FALL UNDER BONDING WERE MOVED TO THE BONDING REVENUE STREAM AND ALLOWED US TO RETRUE UP THIS AND GET US OUT OF THE NEGATIVE AND INTO THE POSITIVE.

SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO OLGA HAS BROUGHT IT UP IF IT'S OKAY.

>> YES, OLGA, YOU'RE ON. >> OKAY.

SO THEY THINK MIKE FOR GIVING US THE OVERVIEW.

NOW I'M GOING TO PAINT A LITTLE BIT BRIGHTER PICTURE FOR CURRENT YEAR WHERE WE DID LOOK VERY HARD AND LOOKED AT ALL THE PROJECTS AND OUR OVERALL SPENDING IN CIP BUT STILL TRY TO MANAGE TO KEEP ALL THE IMPORTANT PROJECTS IN PLACE.

THE FIRST, THE BEGINNING OF THIS TABLE YOU CAN SEE THE REVENUE.

SO WE'RE BRIEFLY GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE FIRST COLUMN IS TO CURRENT BUDGET, HOW IT IS IN CIP RIGHT NOW BEFORE THIS AMENDMENT GOES IN PLACE.

AND WE ARE PROJECTING TOTAL COLLECTION OF 74 $.6 MILLION.

AFTER WE TOOK INTO CONSIDERATIONS ISSUANCE OF THE 2020 BOND AND ENSURED THAT THERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE SURTAX IS DEPOSITED INTO THE REVENUE BOND FUND AND THE DEBT SERVICES TAKEN OUT OF IT, THE RETURN BACK INTO THE CIP FUND REDUCED OUR REVENUES BY ABOUT 3 $.2 MILLION DOWN TO 71 $.4 MILLION.

SO ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE REVENUE? IF NOT, THEN WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO THE EXPENDITURES.

AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE DONE BY THE SAME PRINCIPLES.

THE FIRST COLUMN IS THE 19/20 BUDGET WITH HOW WE SPEND RIGHT NOW IN OUR CIP RIGHT NOW. THE SECOND COLUMN IS THE

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THE FIRST SECTION, SECTION 1, IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. THAT'S THE PROJECT THAT IS REQUIRED TO BE MOVED FORWARD AND WORKED ON IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE HAD A BRIEF MEETING WITH CHARICE'S TEAM TO ENSURE THAT EVERY PROJECT IN THIS TABLE IS CORRESPONDING WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THEY'RE GOING TO DO A MORE THOROUGH REVIEW IN THE FUTURE TO ENSURE WE'RE NOT MISSING ANY INFORMATION THERE.

THE SECOND NUMBER 2 IS NONCAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

IT'S BROKEN BY IMPORTANT AREAS IN THE COUNTY OPERATIONS.

THE FIRST ONE IS BEING A TRANSPORTATION ONE WHERE WE PROPOSE -- HAVE NO CHANGES. WE STILL HAVE ABOUT 2 $.1 MILLION FOR EQUIPMENT AND $500,000 FOR THE BRIDGE IMPROVEMENTS. THEN WE LOOKED AT PARK AND RECREATIONS AND WE ENSURED THAT ALL THE CURRENT PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION ARE STILL COVERED AND WE HAVE MONEY TO PAY THOSE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION AND COMPLETE THE PROJECTS.

THERE WERE TWO SMALL PROJECTS THAT WE REMOVED FROM THE CIP AT THIS POINT WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF DISCUSSING THEM IN THE FUTURE YEARS IF THE NEED ARISES. THE NEXT PAGE IS BRINGING US TO PUBLIC SAFETY. AND AS YOU CAN SEE WE STARTED -- WE TOOK SOME COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE MEETING AND DID SOME COMMUNICATIONS TO HAVE A CLEARER PICTURE FOR EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE MONEY IS GOING. SO WE CREATED A PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING FACILITY DIVISION AND WE HAVE CURRENTLY $153,000 THERE LEFT. WE CREATED A GUN RANGE DIVISION, $61,000 SO THE DEPARTMENT CAN PROCEED WITH PREPARING THE ACQUISITION AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS

PROJECT. >> OLGA, WHAT'S IN THE 800

MEGAHERTZ LINE? >> LAUREN CAN GIVE YOU PARTICULAR DETAILS ON THAT PROJECT.

BUT THIS IS CURRENTLY THE PHASE WHERE THEY ARE DOING A LOT OF PLANNING AND A LOT OF THINGS GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD AND WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION AS THEY GET DETAILS

WORKED OUT. >> I THOUGHT THE PROJECT WAS FINISHED. HERE I GO BACK AGAIN TO THE SLUSH FUND COMMENT. I'D LIKE TO SEE A DETAILED ACCOUNTING OF WHERE THE $4 MILLION IS GOING.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE SUPPOSEDLY HAVE -- WE ACCEPTED THE RADIO SYSTEM LAST YEAR. IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THE MONEY, LET'S CLOSE THAT AND APPROVE WHATEVER ELSE WE'RE GOING TO BUILD WITH IT. END OF COMMENT.

>> CHIEF MOCK HAS INFORMATION FOR YOU, COMMISSIONER.

I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE AS TO WHERE SOME OF THOSE MOINS ARS ARE GOING TO GO. SOME OF THEM ARE RELATED TO THE RADIO PROJECT.

>> I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED SOME OF THIS BEFORE I KNOW.

THE PROJECT IS AS COMMISSIONER BOLLA SAID COMPLETE ON THE RADIO SIDE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALIZED AND IT OCCURRED AS WE WERE COMPLETING THE PROJECT WITH THE SITE AT THE FAIRGROUNDS WITH HURRICANE IRMA AND THE IMPACT ON THAT SHELTER IN THE TOWER WAS THAT SHELTERS AROUNDTHEN COUNTY AROUND THE COUNTYAS WELL AS THES NEEDED UPGRADES THAT WEREN'T CONTEMPLATED INTO THE SYSTEM AS IT STOOD.

WE'VE HELD THAT MONEY AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS TO ASSESS AND THEN CREATE RFPS TO CORRECT SOME OF THOSE ISSUES.

THERE IS AN RFP OUT RIGHT NOW FOR BOTH THE TOWER SITES AND THE SHELTERS AND THE GENERATORS THAT SUPPORT THAT.

THE MONEY IS BEING HELD UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT THAT COST IS GOING TO BE. WHICH IS -- WON'T BE DETERMINED UNTIL THE RPFS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED.

>> I CAN'T SUPPORT THE WAY THAT'S GOING.

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OKAY. >> THEY MAY BE PERTINENT, BUT IS ANY OF THIS MONEY, THE 4 $.2 MILLION, ALLOCATED FOR THE

COMBINED 911 SET UP? >> WELL, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS DISCUSSED WAS ONCE WE COMPLETE WHAT WE KNOW WE HAVE TO DO ON THOSE UPGRADES TO THE TOWERS AND THE SHELTERS IS THAT THAT WOULD OCCUR CONCURRENTLY WITH THE REPORT THAT THE BOARD AUTHORIZE TO GO OUT ON THE CONSOLIDATED SENDER AND THERE WOULD BE POTENTIAL COSTS FOR THAT THAT COULD BE UTILIZED FOR

THAT. >> WELL, WOULD MONEYS OUT OF THIS BE USED TO DO THIS INTEGRATION PROGRAM?

>> YEAH, I THINK IF THE BOARD APPROVED IT IT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE. THE QUESTION WILL BE WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE KNOW THAT YET. I DO NOT BELIEVE BY ANY STRETCH IT WILL BE THE FULL $4 MILLION. BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT INITIAL COST TO SUPPORT THOSE TOWERS AND SHELTERS THAT HOUSE

THE SYSTEMS WILL BE. >> ALL I'M SAYING IS I PROPOSE WE CLOSE THIS 800 MEGAHERTZ LINE.

IF YOU'VE GOT OTHER STUFF YOU WANT TO LIST LIKE THE CONSOLIDATION. PUT A NUMBER ON IT WHEN YOU'RE PREPARED FOR IT AND WE'LL APPROVE THAT.

YA EI'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T WANO DO THOSE THINGS.

I'M SAYING THE WAY THIS IS SET UP RIGHT NOW, YOU'VE GOT A HAD MILLION $4 MILLION BOGEY OUT THD NOBODY KNOWS WHERE THE MONEY IS

GOING, NEITHER DO YOU. >> HOW DID WE COME UP WITH

4 $.2 MILLION? >> REMAINING FUNDING FROM THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE SYSTEM. AS I RECALL IT WAS APPROXIMATELY $20 MILLION THAT WAS AUTHORIZED. THE SYSTEM WAS IN AND AROUND $16 MILLION. THAT DIFFERENCE IS WHAT REMAINS OUT OF IT. AND THEY'VE BEEN WORKING FOR THAT COMPLETION ON THOSE TOWERS AND SHELTERS SINCE THE SYSTEM

BECAME OPERATIONAL. >> CHIEF WHAT'S YOUR ESTIMATE IN TERMS OF WHEN WE'LL HAVE A GO THROUGH ON THE TOWER SITES AND THEN SOMEBODY WILL ACTUALLY GET AN RFP SO WE KNOW WHAT THE -- MONEYS ARE GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN TERMS OF REPAIRING THOSE

THINGS? >> I'D HAVE TO DEFER TO KAREN, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S A 30-DAY ON THE RFP AND THEN THEY'LL PROPOSE AND WE'LL GET THE BIDS BACK AND START TO KNOW WHAT THOSE IMPACTS

WILL BE. >> YOU SAY WE HAVE MADE REPAIRS ON ONE TOWER SO FAR, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> WE HAD DONE ONE TOWER ORIGINALLY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCOVERED AS WE RECEIVED MAINTENANCE FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND TOOK IT OVER FULLY WAS THAT EACH OF THE TOWER SITES HAD OLDER STYLE LIGHTING SYSTEMS ON THEM. AND THEN OLDER GENERATORS THAT WERE NOT AS RELIABLE AS WE'D LIKE.

ONE TOWER WAS UPGRADED TO THE NEW STROBE SYSTEM THAT UTILIZED MORE CURRENT TECHNOLOGY. WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING THE REMAINING FIVE SITES LIKE THAT. AND THEN THE ONE SHELTER AT THE FAIRGROUNDS WAS UPGRADED AS A RESULT OF THE FLOODING AND THE DAMAGE AND A NEW GENERATOR WAS PLACED INTO THAT.

SO YOU REALLY HAVE ONE OF THE SIX SITES FULLY DONE.

IT'S NOT THE SAME SITE COMPLETELY.

BUT YOU REALLY HAVE FIVE SITES REMAINING THAT HAVE TO HAVE

UPGRADES TO THEM. >> DO YOU RECALL HOW MUCH IT COST TO DO THE FIRST SITE ROUGHLY?

>> I CAN -- GIVEN THAT THEY WEREN'T DONE IN A CONCURRENT SITE, NO, I DON'T BECAUSE THEY CAME IN TWO SEPARATE SECTIONS.

>> COMMISSIONER BOLLA, YOU BROUGHT THIS UP.

DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS AS TO WHICH DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO

ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? >> WELL, I'D -- MY RECOMMENDATION OR WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN IS LET'S CLOSE THE PROJECT. IT'S DONE.

WE HAD THE SAME KIND OF THING ON THE RAILROAD.

WHEN YOU HAD AN AOV OPEN AND IT STAYED OPEN TOGETHER, OH, I'VE GOT TO HAVE A BLUE LIGHTBULB INSTEAD OF A YELLOW AND THEY'LL DO THAT UNTIL YOU SPEND THE MONEY.

THAT'S NOT THE BEST PACE TO PLAO ALLOCATE THE MONEY.

THE WAY IT'S SET UP NOW, IS WE'RE JUST GOING TO SPEND THAT MONEY TILL IT'S GONE. PERIOD.

AND I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK WE OUGHT TO TAKE IT ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS AT THIS POINT.

IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT'S WORTHWHILE FIXING, COME TO US WITH THE PROPOSAL AND THE BOARD WILL VOTE ON IT.

THAT'S WHAT W WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

>> CHIEF? >> WELL, I THINK IT'S AT THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD. MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO HOLD

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SENSE. >> 4 $.5 MILLION BUY AS ROAD PERIOD. IT WILL BUY A LOT OF BIG THINGS.

IT WILL BUY HALF THE ANIMAL SHELTER YOU GUYS WANT.

>> THAT'S TRUE. >> WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE A RADIO SYSTEM WITH SHELTERS THAT ACTUALLY WORK.

I GUESS THERE'S TWO WAYS TO DO THIS.

THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE CHIEF AS TO HOW LONG IT WOULD BE BEFORE WE HAD THAT -- IDEA AS TO WHAT THE COST WOULD BE.

MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO TAKE WHATEVER WE NEED TO COVER THAT COST AND SEPARATE THAT FROM THE REMAINDER.

IF IT'S 1 $.2 MILLION IT COSTS US TO DO THE SHELTERS, WE'LL TAKE THE LEFTOVER AND PUT IT INTO A 911 CONSOLIDATION LINE IF THAT'S WHAT WE THINK WE NEED THERE.

OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY JUST GUESSING AT THE TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNTS WHERE WE NEED IT.

TAKING 4 $.2 MILLION -- AND MIKE PRICE CAN HELP US WITH THIS -- JUST IN TAKING IT OUT OF THAT LINE AND PUTTING IN ANOTHER LINE, I DON'T THINK IT DOES WHAT YOU REALLY WANT IT TO DO.

>> IF WE HAVE IT TIED UP IN THAT LINE WE CAN'T USE IT FOR MORE PROJECTS THAT MIGHT BE MORE WORTHY THAN OTHER THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT. WE DON'T HAVE THAT AVAILABLE BECAUSE WE ARE HOLDING THAT IN ABEYANCE FOR PROJECTS WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE COST IS GOING TO BE.

>> RIGHT. BUT WE'RE ALSO HOLDING IT SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THOSE PROJECTS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY PUBLIC SAFETY IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS COVERED.

I MEAN, THE CHIEF, HE'D HAVE TO COME BACK TO US TO MAKE SURE HE COULD SPEND THE MONEY ANYWAY AFTER HE GETS HIS RFP.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE WOULD BE LOSING CONTROL OF THAT MONEY, UNLESS YOU WANT TO TAKE IT AND PUT IT IN JUST A DIFFERENT LINE.

BUT I THINK IF MIKE PRICE TAWKD TALKEDTO YOU ABOUT IT I THINK HS HAPPY TO HAVE IT ASSIGNED RATHER THAN JUST UNASSIGNED 4 $.2 MILLION SITTING IN OUR CIP.

>> MIKE, HOW DO YOU WEIGH IN ON THIS?

>> I'M GOING TO TAKE A -- GIVE THE BOARD MAYBE ANOTHER OPTION HERE. ONE IS TO KIND OF EXPLORE HOW WE MIGHT USE OTHER SOURCES OF REVENUE TO PAY FOR THESE -- PARTICULARLY WHETHER THE CONSULICONSOLIDATION OF THE 911L CENTER IS CONCERNED. I UNDERSTAND WHAT PAST REPORTS HAVE SAID, BUT LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE THERE SHOULD BE SOME SAVINGS ACCRUED FROM COMBINING THESE TWO CALL CENTERS.

IF THERE'S NOT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE NEED TO GO FORWARD WITH IT. THE OTHER THING IS, IS IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD A 50-CENT PER LINE CHARGE 911 FEE THAT'S -- THAT WE COULD USE FOR THE CONSOLIDATION OF THAT CALL CENTER. YOU KNOW, THAT'S RIGHT IN THE 911 FEE'S WHEELHOUSE. WE HAD TO REDUCE THAT 45 CENTS FOR LINE FEE BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO SPEND ALL OF IT. IF WE DO THE WORK AND INCREASE THAT BACK UP TO 50 CENTS, WE'VE GOT FUNDING FOR CONSOLIDATION FOR THE COM CENTER. BUT I THINK THAT COMMISSIONER BOLLA MAKES A GOOD POINT WITH THE 8 800 MEGAHERTZ SYSTEM.

CERTAINLY IF THERE'S UPGRADES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS AN AN EMERGENT PROJECT IN PUBLIC WORKS.

DALE WILL WEIGH IN AND TELL YOU ABOUT DRAINAGE PROJECTS WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE BECAUSE WE'RE REPAVING THE WORLD AND ALL OF A ROAD AND IT NEEDSDRAINAGE. YOU DO THE SAME WITH PUBLIC WORKS. YOU GO BACK AND MAKE THEM BUDGET BY LINE ITEM. MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD WOULD BE TO GO FORWARD AND SAY WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU NEED, YOU KNOW, GET THE RFP ON THE STREET. BUDGET THAT NEED AND PUT THE REST BACK IN THE FUND. YOU'VE GOT MORE NEEDS THAN YOU HAVE MONEY. TO BOTTLE IT UP IN ONE AREA AND KEEP IT THERE IS NOT -- IS TAKING AWAY FLEXIBILITY I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO DESPERATELY NEED GOING FORWARD.

WE CAN GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION.

WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT THE EFFECTS ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE SALES SURTAX REVENUE VEE STREAM IS GOG TO BE GOING FORWARD.

DO ALL THE SITES NEED TO BE UPGRADED?

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IS IT SUFFICIENT? >> MIKE, I THINK I CAN ANSWER THAT AND THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO ON BOTH.

AND THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE RFP.

SO I THINK WHEN WE GET THAT NUMBER IN, WE'RE GOING TO KNOW WHAT WOULD BE REMAINING AND WHAT COULD BE EITHER REALLOCATED OR TRANSFERRED OVER TO THE 911 SIDE IF THAT'S WHAT THE DESIRE OF THE

BOARD IS. >> I DON'T THINK IT HURTS THE BOARD RIGHT NOW TO KEEP IT THERE AS SOON AS YOU GET -- THIS WOULDN'T BE A PUBLIC HEARING, IT'S BELOW THE LINES OF SECTION 2, RIGHT? WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER ONE IN REALITY. I THINK FROM THE BOARD'S PERSPECTIVE, COMMISSIONER BOLLA HAS A REALLY GOOD POINT.

YOU KNOW, IF WE LEAVE THE MONEY IN THERE WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO SPEND IT FOR IN THAT SERVICE AREA, CORRECT? I MEAN, WE'VE DONE THAT IN OTHER SERVICE AREAS.

BUT I THINK AT THIS PARTICULAR JUNCTURE, I THINK THE BOARD NEEDS TO BE AS FLEXIBLE AS THEY CAN WITH THEIR REVENUE.

AND THAT MEANS CERTAINLY GET WHAT YOU NEED.

I TAKE YOU AT YOUR WORD THAT YOU NEED THAT.

I THINK WE SHOULD GET WHAT WE NEED.

WHEREVER WE CAN DEFER THESE NEEDS, MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER THESE NEEDS FOR THE FUTURE.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS IN TERMS OF REVENUE.

YOU ONLY GO WHAT YOU'VE GOT ON HAND RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S THE ONLY CERTAINTY YOU'VE GOT. DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE?

DID I CONFUSE EVERYBODY ENOUGH? >> WELL, I THINK TO JUST FOLLOW UP ON WHAT MIKE IS SAYING, IS THAT WE DO NEED TO KEEP THE MONEY IN THERE IN CONNECTION WITH IN ORDER TO BID IT OUT.

BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE A BUDGET IN ORDER TO BID IT OUT.

I REALIZE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST ARE, BUT ONCE WE DO I THINK WE'VE GOT TO KEEP IT THERE SO WE CAN SEND OUT THE PROPOSALS FOR THOSE PROJECTS. SO I THAT'S WHAT I THINK MIKE WS

REFERRING TO. >> YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, COURTNEY. BUT MY POINT IS IF WAYNE'S POIN SHOULD BE WELL TAKEN. USUALLY WE PUT THAT HORSE BEFORE THE CART. WHAT WE DO IS SAY HERE'S A NEED, LETS PUT THE BUDGET BASED ON WHAT WE THINK THIS IS GOING TO COST AND WE'LL BID IT OUT. THIS IS JUST A REMAINDER FROM THE $20 MILLION. WE'RE JUST GETTING AROUND FIGURING WHAT THAT COST. YOU SAY WE NEED IT, THEN PUBLIC SAFETY -- BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE BOARD SHOULD ALSO CONSIDER COMMISSIONER BOLLA HAS GOT A GOOD POINT.

SHOULDN'T JUST TIE ALL OF THAT MONEY UP FOREVER.

GET THE RPFS BACK, CERTAINLY BUDGET THAT FOR WHAT LAUREN SAYS THE NEED IS AND TRANSFER THAT REMAINDER WHERE YOU HAVE HIGHER

PRIORITIES. >> IF I COULD MAKE A COMMENT, JUST FROM PAST EXPERIENCE. WE HAD SOME ROAD PROJECTS THAT CAME IN WELL UNDER BUDGET WHEN I FIRST CAME ON THE COMMISSION.

AND IT WAS WOO HOO, WE'VE GOT MONEY TO BLOW NOW.

AND WHILE IT WENT TOWARD THE BENEFIT OF THE CITIZENS, IT STAYED IN THE CATEGORY OF NOT ROADS BUT IT GOT MOVED TO ANOTHER CATEGORY. FOR ME, I KNEW THIS MONEY WAS FROM -- IT WAS RESIDUAL FROM THE MEGAHERTZ SYSTEM.

I ALSO KNEW THERE WERE THINGS WE DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD TO FIX THAT ARE EMERGENCY AND SAFETY FIRST THINGS.

AND I'M MORE COMFORTABLE HAVING THIS MONEY ASSIGNED IN A SAFETY LINE ITEM. YTHAN I AM JUST PUTTINGIT IN GET DESIGNATED. THE THINGS WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF IS SAFETY FIRST. I LOVE BUILDING ROADS TOO.

BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE ME FEEL GOOD AND IT DOESN'T MAKE ME FEEL LIKE WE'RE PUTTING OUR PRIORITIES WHERE THEY NEED TO BE WHEN WE HAVE SAFETY THINGS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF AS WELL AS ROADS. WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THE SAFETY THINGS. SO IF YOU WANT TO RENAME THE LINE ITEM, I'M FINE WITH THAT. BUT I'M NOT FINE WITH SCWHRUS JT PUTTING IT IN RESERVE AND WE'LL SPEND IT HOWEVER WE WANT TO LATER. ONCE YOU DO THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THERE WHEN YOU NEED IT FOR SAFETY.

IT HAS BEEN MY PAST EXPERIENCE. I WON'T SAY THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO DO BUT THAT'S BEEN MY PAST EXPERIENCE.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. MIKE, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

HOW CRITICAL ARE THESE REPAIRS SAY OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS ? THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. SECONDLY, HOW LONG ARE YOU THINKING THIS IS JUST A BEST GUESS.

I'M SURE YOU'LL KNOW WHAT THE REAL FIGURE IS ON THE REPAIRS,

CHIEF. >> THE QUESTION OF HOW CRITICAL I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT AN

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A YEAR-LONG PROJECT TO COMPLETE. >> AS FAR AS GETTING A PRICE ON

THE REPAIRS, HOW LONG -- >> THE PRICE ON THE REPAIRS WE OUGHT TO KNOW WHEN WE GET THE RFP BACK, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A 30 DAY, THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE IT WAS.

KAREN CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

>> I THINK CERTAINLY THOSE COSTS WILL BE KNOWN DURING THE BUDGET SEASON. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I THINK YOU COULD LEAVE IT THERE FOR NOW AND THEN WHEN THOSE RFPS COME IN, CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, PUT WHAT YOU NEED IN PUBLIC SAFETY AND THEN, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT SOME OTHER PRIORITIES SOMEWHERE ELSE.

MOST FLEXIBLE OPTION. >> THAT'S THE SUGGESTION, I MADE, THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE CHIEF HOW LONG IT WOULD BE BEFORE WE'D HAVE THOSE NUMBERS. WE GET THOSE NUMBERS AND IF WE WANT TO BREAK IT OUT INTO A SEPARATE CATEGORY MINUS THE MOMONEYS IT'S GOING TO TAKE OFF THOSE PROJECTS WITH THE RFP, WE CAN DO THAT. I THINK ALL ALONG AS A BOARD WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TAKING THOSE MONEYS, WHATEVER MIGHT BE LEFT OVER FROM THAT 800 MEGAHERTZ PROJECTS AND KEEPING IT IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY ARENA. AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 911 CONSOLIDATION AND WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $900,000 TO TAKE A LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THAT IN PLACE, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE SOME MONEYS TO ACTUALLY COMMIT AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS. THEREFORE TO TAKE THAT $3 MILLION AND ASSIGN IT TO A LINE ITEM THAT'S PUBLIC SAFETY,/911, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, I DON'T THINK IS A BIG MISTAKE. YOU YOURSELF SAID WE'RE BASICALLY OPERATING IN JELLO AND WE NEED TO BE FLEXIBLE ENOUGH.

SO IF WE SEE THAT PROJECT IS NOT SOMETHING WE WANT TO CONTINUE DOWN THE ROAD WITH AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME AND YOU WANT TO MOVE THE MONEY, WE CAN MOVE THE MONEY.

WE CAN VOTE TO DO THAT. AS WELL AS ANY PROJECTS THAT ARE SITTING THERE INCLUDING THE GUN RANGE AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS PENCILED IN. THAT'S WHAT I LOOK AT IT AS, IT'S PENCILED IN. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS IN TERMS OF REVENUES AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHAT NEEDS ARE MOST HIGH ON THE PRIORITY LIST AND MAKE THOSE CHANGES.

IN THIS REGARD I DON'T DISAGREE WITH COMMISSIONER BOLLA.

I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT. I THINK WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME WHEN WE CAN TAKE THOSE MOIN MONEYS AND BE AO ALLOCATE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. AT THIS POINT WE'RE THAT CLOSE, WITHIN 30, 45 DAYS IN TERMS OF RFPS AND KNOWING WHAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNTED IS GOING TO BE AND WE'LL TAKE THE REST MONEY OUT OF THAT LINE ITEM AND PUT IT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.

>> AND YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN, COMMISSIONER CELLA.

AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING CIP AGAIN AS PART OF THE NEXT BUDGET PROCESS. THAT'S COMING UP HERE, YOU KNOW, PRETTY SOON. SO, AGAIN, MY COUNSEL IS LEAVE THE BOARD WHEN LAUREN GETS THE RFPS IN AND THEN IF THE BOARD DECIDES THERE'S A HIGHER PRIORITY, BUDGET WHAT LAUREN NEEDS AND TAKE THE REMAINDER AND PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THAT'S THE MOST FLEXIBLE ROUTE FOR THE BOARD. YOU'RE GOING TO BE REVISITING THIS AGAIN. YOU'RE GOING TO GET MULTIPLE

BITES AT THIS APPLE. >> COMMISSIONER WOULD YOU BE ACCEPTABLE TO THIS WAIT AND SEE THING AND SEE WHERE THE MONEY COMES IN AND THEN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS ACCORDINGLY?

>> I'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR A YEAR AND A HALF NOW.

NOTHING CHANGES, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I'VE GOT TO STAND UP AND SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH HERE.

WHAT WOULD MAKE ME HAPPY IS IF WE FIGURED OUT WHAT OUR BENEFIT IS ON 911 CONSOLIDATION. FIGURE OUT ON WHAT OUR BENEFIT IS TO REALLY FINISH THE 800 MEGAHERTZ WHICH WE SAID WE HAD FINISHED FINISHED BEFORE AS WE NEVER DID.

CALL THAT NUMBER AND PUT THOSE AS LINE ITEMS ON THE BUDGET INSTEAD OF CALLING IT THE 800 MEGAHERTZ AND WE CONTINUE TO DIP OUT OF THAT FUND. THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE DON'T SPEND MONEY ON SAFETY ISSUES.

THAT'S -- WE ALWAYS SPEND MONEY ON THOSE FIRST.

THE MONEY IS STILL THERE. WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND IT.

YOU KNOW. THAT'S THE OTHER ISSUE.

IF WE PUT A LINE ITEM AND BUST THIS THING UP TO THE POINT WHERE WE KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING, THAT WOULD MAKE ME HAPPY.

HAVING THE POT OF MONEY THERE WE KEEP DIPPING INTO, WE'RE DOING RFQS AND DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE PROJECT IS GOING TO COST IS WHAT I'M HEARING, IS THAT CORRECT? WE MUST HAVE SOME IDEA WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ON THESE UPGRADES. THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE.

THAT'S NOT THE WAY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO WORK.

AMEN. >> WHILE YOU FOLKS COLLECT YOUR

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>> MR. OTTO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. >> OKAY, MR. OTTO.

GO FOR IT. MR. OTTO, ARE YOU THERE?

>> HELLO. >> GO AHEAD, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

>> YOU CAN HEAR ME, YES, SIR. CLAY COUNTY FLORIDA HOTELS.

I'D LIKE TO SAY MR. MOCK FOR 2020.

NEED TO LOOK AT THE IMPACT FEES LIKE MR. BOLLA SAID THEY MAY NOT COME IN LATER SO WE DON'T NEED TO OVERSPEND.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT NOT SUPPORTING FOOTBALL WITH THE TWO FOOTBALL COACHES THAT WERE TARGETED.

>> STAY ON ISSUE, MR. OTTO. FOOTBALL IS NOT PART OF OUR

TOPIC. >> IT'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, SIR, THE SPENDING OF THE MONEY.

THE COUNTY TAXPAYERS, THE ONE PIE OF THE MONEY.

I THINK WE NEED TO CONSOLIDATE THE FAIRGROUNDS THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT. YOU NEED A PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX. I HEARD THE GOVERNOR TALKING ABOUT HOW WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE. NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.

WE NEED TO SPEND THEIR MONEY MORE REASONABLY.

SPENDING$60,000 TO HAVE SOMEONE TELL US WE NEED ANOTHER FIELD OF DREAMS WHEN THE VOTER SAID NO, THE FIELD OF DREAMS IS NOT REASONABLE SPENDING OF THE TAXPAYERS' MONEY.

IT'S A CANCELABLE ACCOUNT AND NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.

THERE'S JUST SO MANY THINGS. I MEAN, THE FOLKS, THE CITIZENS AREN'T REALLY GETTING TO LOOK AT THIS VERY WELL I DON'T THINK WITH ALL THE PANDEMIC AND EVERYTHING.

SO THE $130 MILLION THAT YOU GUYS KEEP SAYING WE ALREADY HAVE THAT WE DON'T HAVE NEEDS TO BE PUSHED OFF.

>> WE HAVEN'T, MR. AUTO. >> OTTO.

>> JUST LIKE HE SAYS THERE'S ONLY A 5% DIFFERENCE AND WE CAN LOOK AT ALL THE AMOUNT OF BIDS THAT CLAY COUNTY HAD UNDERBID, HAD PROBLEMS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT IFS. THIS IS A HUGE WHAT IF. WE GOT STORMS ALREADY STARTING.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT.

AND YOU GUYS ARE OUT HERE TRYING TO BORROW $130 MILLION FOR MOSTLY ONE LITTLE PART OF THE COUNTY.

IT'S NOT RIGHT. YOU'RE PUSHING OFF THE 218 BRIDGE TO GO PAVE 218 -- I MEAN TO PAVE 220.

AND TO THE OTHER ONE THAT WAS ON THE AGENDA TODAY, TOO, COLLEGE ROAD. I MEAN, THESE PEOPLE DIDN'T PAY THE IMPACT FEES THAT THE PEOPLE DID IN MIDDLEBURG AND CLAY HILL AND OTHER AREAS. FAVORITISM NEEDS TO STOP.

THE FAIR ACT OF THIS TAXING THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THESE PEOPLE IS UNREAL. SO WE'RE NOT AT THE MINIMUM OF THE IMPACT FEES YOU ALL SAID THAT WE NEEDED.

NEEDED.SO WE NEED TO LISTEN TO E VOTERS.

WE SAID WE DON'T WANT THE FIELD OF DREAMS. THERE'S NO REASON FOR ANYBODY TO BE DOING ABRASIV. THE PARKS THAT ARE OPEN RIGHT NOW ARE GOOD. YOU CAN GO WALK, YOU CAN WALK THE TRAILS THAT YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING IN.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH.

THE COUNTY HAS NO BUSINESS SPENDING MONEY ON FOOTBALL OR

ANY KIND OF -- >> MR. OTTO, YOU HAVE NOT STAYED ON POINT AND I'VE ADMONISHED YOU ONCE TO DO IT.

UNLESS YOU CAN GET BACK ON THE PARTICULAR ITEM OF DISCUSSION, WE'RE GOING TO END YOUR PUBLIC --

>> YES, SIR. THE ANIMAL SHELTER THAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT, WE NEED A HUMAN SHELTER BEFORE AN ANIMAL SHELTER. IF YOU EUTHANIZE, START EUTHANIZING YOU'LL HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM.

AS FAR AS THE FLOODING ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER, YOU CAN CLEAN IT BACK OUT. THAT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD.

IT'S RIGHT THERE BY PENNEY FARMS. WE DON'T NEED TO MOVE IT. YOU CAN'T GET TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER WHERE IT IS, YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS ADOPTING AN ANIMAL.

YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT. PERIOD.

SO TRYING TO MOVE IT TO FLEMING ISLAND BECAUSE IT'S OUT OF THE WAY TO GO TO PENNEY FARMS IS NOT A GOOD EXCUSE.

>> OKAY, MR. OTTO, YOU'RE THREE MINUTES IS UP.

>> YES, SIR, THANK YOU. >> GET BACK TO OUR ITEM 16.

OLGA STILL HAS TO FINISH HER REPORT, ALTHOUGH WE'VE KIND OF

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FOLKS, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T HAVE A REAL STRONG FEELING EITHER WAY. THE MONEY IS GOING TO BE IN ONE POT OR THE OTHER AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE IT AROUND.

I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER BOLLA, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT 800 MEGAHERTZ FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS AND IT SEEMS TO HAVE A NEVERENDING LIFE. WITH THAT SAID, THE MONEY IS THERE. WE PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE, WE MAY WIND UP HAVING TO MOVE IT BACK OR WE MAY CAN SPEND WHAT'S THERE AND THEN MOVE WHAT'S LEFT TO ANOTHER FUND.

I DON'T KNOW -- AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE A STRONG FEELING EITHER WAY. I'M GOING TO DEPEND ON ONE OF YOU FOUR LADY OR GENTLEMEN TO MAKE A SUGGESTION, ON HOW WE GO

WITH THIS. >> I DON'T THINK WE'RE THAT FAR APART IN TERM OF AGREEING AS THE MONEY NEEDS TO BE IDENTIFIED AS TO WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE SPENT I THINK WE'VE ALL LOOKED AT THE 800 MEGAHERTZ LINE AS MOINS THAS THAT WERE GOING TO BE EARMARKED AND HOPEFULLY KEPT IN THAT SAME DIVISION WHICH WOULD BE PUBLIC SAFETY. I THINK IF WE CAN AGREE THAT WE'LL LET THE CHIEF GO OUT WITH HIS R FFPS TO FIX THE SHELTERS AS NEEDED AND MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE THE REMAINDER OF THOSE MONEYS AND PUT THAT IN A DIFFERENT LINE ITEM OR ADDRESS IT AT THAT POINT IN TIME WHERE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER IT'S GOING TO GO TO CONSULIDATCONSOLIDATION OR SOME, WE'RE ONLY 30 DAYS AWAY. WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR HOW MANY YEARS? ANOTHER 30 OR 45 DAYS UNTIL THE RFPS COME IN WILL GET US TOWERS ANTOWHERE WE NEED TO GO.

THIS IS ALL IN JELLO ANYWAY. IT'S GOING TO CHANGE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE SEE IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS WHAT ARE STILL TWO MONTHS OUT IN TERMS OF SEEING WHAT OUR TAX INFRASTRUCTURE REVENUE IS GOING TO BE. BOTTOM LINE IS I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE CONSCIOUS AND COGNIZANT OF BEING FLEXIBLE WHEN WE GET THERE H. I DON'T THINK I THINK EVERYBODY AGREES IN THAT RESPECT WITH CO COMMISSIONER BOL AWVA.TO GO THROUGH THE 30 DAYS, FIGURE OUT WHAT THE MONEYS ARE AND LEAVE THOSE THERE TO COVER THAT COST AND THEN TAKE THE REMAINDER OF THE MONEY AND PUT IT IN A SEPARATE LINE ITEM DEDICATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER BOLLA, DO YOU FIND FAVOR WITH THAT AS BEST YOU CAN? COMMISSIONER BOLLA?

I THINK -- >> AS LONG AS IN 30 DAYS I CAN

MAKE SURE IT WILL COME UP AGAIN. >> YEAH.

YEAH. PROMISE ME, AS SOON AS THE CHIEF GIVES UP SOME NUMBERS WE'LL MOVE ON THIS PARTICULAR FUND, COMMISSIONER BOLLA. ABSOLUTELY.

SECONDLY, I DON'T THINK YOU'LL LET US GET OFF THE --

>> THAT WAS MY INTENTION THIS TIME.

>> WELL, CHAIRMAN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IDENTIFYING THE DATE IN JUNE. LET'S CALL IT THE SECOND MEEMEETINGIN JUNE, JUNE 23RD. WE VISIT THIS AND BE ABLE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION IF THE COMMISSIONER IS OKAY WITH THAT.

>> I'M GOOD WITH THAT. >> THAT TIMELINE WIM S WILL SUPF THE RFPS. I THINK IT WILL.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, THE ONE CAUTION I'LL ADD AND I HAVEN'T HEARD KAREN WEIGH IN. OBVIOUSLY ONCE WE RECEIVE THE RFPS BACK, THA THERE WILL HAVE O BE A COMMITTEE THAT EVALUATED EVALUATESTHE RFP BEFS. YOU'LL SEE WHEN THE QUOTES ARE RECEIVED BUT THAT NORMALLY TAKE AS TWO TO THREE WEEK PROCESS FOR THAT COMMITTEE TO REVIEW AND EVALUATE THE PROPOSALS BEFORE IT COMES BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ACTION.

>> SURE. SURE.

BUT AT LEAST WE'VE GOT PLAN IN PLACE AND HOPEFULLY THAT INFORMATION WILL BE GET BACK TO US THE SECOND WEEK OF JUNE.

AT THAT POINT IN TIME WE'LL MOVE ON COMMISSIONER BOLLA'S SUGGESTION, BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE OUR NUMBERS BACK ONE WAY OR THE

OTHER. >> WHAT NORMALLY HAPPENS IF WE BUDGET A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND THE RFQ COMES BACK, RFP COMES BACK HIGHER, DO WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND FIX IT, RIGHT?

>> I'M NOT SURE HOW THE PROCEDURE WORKS, COMMISSIONER

BOLLA. >> WE ALWAYS HAVE TO ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL MOI MONEYS. IF THERE'S A PROJECT WE WANT TO DO AND IT COMES BACK OVER WHAT WE HAD ALREADY BUDGETED, WE HAVE

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>> THAT'S THE WAY THIS IS SUPPOSED TO WORK.

SO WE GOT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE HERE.

ALL RIGHT. I'M GOOD.

TIME CERTAIN, WHAT WAS IT, JUNE --

>> TWENTY-THIRD. >> 23RD.

>> OKAY. CAN WE HAVE A PRELIMINARY NUMBER ON THE 800 MEGAHERTZ PROJECTS AT THAT POINT IN TIME?

TAKE A STAB AT A 1 $1 MILLION. >> WE MIGHT HAVE A FUNERAL AND BURIAL FOR 800 MEGAHERTZ ON THAT PARTICULAR NIGHT.

I THINK COUNTY COMMANDER -- COMMANDANT -- MANAGER.

I THINK YOU HAD A COMMENT, SIR? >> I WOULD PROPOSE IF IT'S -- ALL WE WOULD BE ADDING WOULD BE ANOTHER LINE HERE.

I COULD HAVE OLGA ADD A LINE THAT WOULD SAY 911 CONSOLIDATION. YOU KEEP A SUM OF MONEYS, WHICH WILL GIVE OUR BEST MICHIGAN ESTIMATE IFWE CAN AS THIS RFP PS CONTINUES. WE'LL HAVE THAT NUMBER IN THERE AND THEN WE CAN ADD IN THE AMOUNT FOR 911 CONSOLIDATION.

THAT WOULD BREAK OUT -- IT WOULD BE MORE LOGICAL THAT WAY AND KIND OF NOT PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE ON IT SO TO SPEAK. YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF THAT WITH THE 800 MEGAHERTZ AT THIS POINT WITH THE RFP STANDARD.

WE COULD BREAK THAT OUT IF THE BOARD DESIRES THAT WOULD BE

ANOTHER KIND OF SOLUTION. >> BUT THAT WOULD BE A 23RD

JUNE CALL RIGHT? >> I WOULD LIKE TONIGHT LIKE FINALIZE THIS PORTION OF IT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO GET THE TRUE UP DONE. WE COULD PUT ANOTHER PUBLIC MEETING ON THAT TO BREAK OUT THOSE LINES AT THAT TIME.

WE'LL HAVE HARD AND FAST NUMBERS ON THE 23RD, YES, SIR.

OR TONIGHT. >> I'M JUST NOT SURE HOW WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH A NUMBER TONIGHT UNLESS CHIEF CAN HELP

US. >> THE OTHER COMMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE THE 911 CONSULIDATION CONSOLIDATIONSTUDY THAT'S BEEN S NEARING COMPLETION. THERE WAS ADDING ON TASKING, MAYBE CHIEF MOCK COULD ADDRESS THAT.

AT LEAST THAT PORTION COULD BE IDENTIFIED.

THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT. AGAIN, OVER TO LAUREN ON THAT.

>> CHIEF MOCK? >> WHAT MY RECOMMNDATION IS AT THIS POINT IS THAT TROY PROBABLY ADDRESSES THE 911 CONSOLIDATION.

>> TROY? >> YES, SIR.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN ITEM COMING TO THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE. THE 911 MISSION CRITICAL PARTNERS IS ASKING TO LOOK AT A SCOPE CHANGE THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING TO YOU NEXT WEEK. THEY CAME IN AND LOOKED AT THE PROCESS AND QUICKLY CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THEY FEEL THAT EVERYBODY IS ON BOARD. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND FIRE RESCUE FOR CONSOLIDATION AND IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

SO THEY WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT STILL DOING THE CONSOLIDATION PLAN, ADDING IN AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN FOR US UNDER THE SAME COST. AND THEN DOING A COUPE PLAN FOR THINGS LIKE COVID AND HOW WE WOULD HANDLE A DISASTER.

ALL ONE PROPOSAL TO BRING BACK. THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO A SCOPE CHANGE AND ADD IN THE C OOUP PL. WHEN THEY GET THE REPORT DONE IT'S AN ESTIMATE OF HAD YOU BIGA BUILDING YOU WOULD NEED OR HOW MUCH YOU WOULD NEED TO RESTRUCTURE OVER AT EOC.

>> 911 LINE ITEM WITHOUT HAVING THOSE NUMBERS, SO WE'RE IN A WAITING POSTURE FOR A WEEK OR TWO OR THREE.

I LIKE COMMISSIONER CELLA'S IDEA AND THE TIMELINE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. I THINK EVERYONE'S ASSURED WE'RE GOING TO PUT THIS THING TO BED IN JUNE AT OUR MEETING, THE 23RD. SO CAN WE HAVE SOME CONSENSUS MAYBE JUST GO AHEAD AND DO AS COMMISSIONER CELLA HAS PROPOSED AND MOVE ON TO THE REMAINDER OF OLGA'S REPORT?

>> I'M VERY, VERY OKAY WITH THAT PROPOSAL.

>> YEAH, I'M OKAY WITH IT. >> OKAY.

>> AMEN FROM COMMISSIONER ROLLINS HERE.

>> I HEARD YOU LOUD AND CLEAR, COMMISSIONER ROLLINS.

I WOULD CERTAINLY SUPPORT THAT. COMMISSIONER CELLA, SINCE IT WAS YOUR IDEA I'M NOT GOING TO ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.

I THINK WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THAT.

DO WE HAVE -- COUNTY ATTORNEY, DO WE NEED TO --

>> I THINK OLGA STILL HAS -- >> WE'RE NOT THROUGH YET.

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WE'VE HAD OUR PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.

SO OLGA, ARE YOU STILL THERE? >> YES, SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT. GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO FINISH UP YOUR REPORT. SORRY FOR THE LONG, LONG INTERRUPTION.

>> THAT'S OKAY. WE'LL TAKE IT WHATEVER WAY WE NEED TO. MY LAST AREA IN THE PUBLIC WORKS. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS A COUPLE CHANGES IN THAT ONE HIGHLIGHTED IN GRAY.

WE INCREASE THE DRAINAGE STORMWATER BUDGET BECAUSE THERE WERE PROJECTS IDENTIFIED THAT REQUIRED REPAIRS.

AND THE PURCHASE ORDERS ARE WAITING TO BE APPROVED TO BEGIN THE WORK, WAITING ON THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT.

THE NEXT ONE IS A PUBLIC WORKS BUILDINGS DESIGN.

WE INCREASED THE FUNDING SO WE CAN PROCESS THE DESIGN BUILD FOR A SECOND NA MAINTENANCE BUILDING AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROPOSAL WITH THAT PROJECT. WE ALSO MOVED THE INDIGO BRANCH DRAINAGE PROJECT INTO FISCAL YEAR 2021 AND REALLOCATED THE GRANTS PROJECTS FOR THE MITIGATION DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. HOW SINCE WE RECEIVED THE GRANTS FROM THE STATE, SO WE ALLOCATED EXACTLY THE RECEIVED CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS AND REMOVED THE UNNECESSARY LINE ITEM WHICH CURRENTLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY PROJECT ASSIGNED TO IT.

AND PORTIONS OF IT ARE GOING TO BE TAKING CARE THROUGH THE GRANTS WITH FD O DRGS ORGS T. DOT.

SOME OF IT WILL BE ADDRESSED IN BOND FUND IN CONSTRUCTIONS.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE CHANGES. AS YOU CAN SEE WITH REALLOCATING THOSE PROJECTS AND CHANGING THE TIMING OR THE PROJECTS OR THE AMOUNTS, WE WERE ABLE TO BRING THE CIP SPENDING DOWN 7 $.1 MILLION FROM 60 $.2 MILLION TO 53 $.1 MILLION IN TOTAL BETWEEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IMPROVEMENTS THAT CONCLUDES THE ALLOCATIONS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE

WE LOOK AT THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN? >> OKAY.

>> ALL RIGHTY. GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT TO SHARE ONE MORE DOCUMENT FOR THE FIVE YEARS.

>> COMMISSIONER HENDRY? COMMISSIONER HENDRY, THIS IS

CHARICE, CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YEAH, GO AHEAD, I'M SORRY.

>> JUST REAL QUICK WHILE OLGA IS PULLING UP THE FIVE YEAR, GOING BACK TO MIKE'S PRESENTATION AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE IMPACT FEE AND THAT BEING BLANK AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

I CAN GIVE YOU OUR CURRENT NUMBER UP UNTIL APRIL 20.

THIS IS JUST JANUARY -- I'D GO BACK AND ADD IT UP. JANUARY TO APRIL WE'VE COLLECTED 1 $.7 MILLION.

SO I'VE GOT THOSE PHYSICIAN THAT I CAN GIVE YOU THAT ARE UP TO DATE. I CAN GET THOSE TO MIKE PRICE AND WE CAN HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ON THAT.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE THERE.

>> THAT'S EDIFYING. I DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD BE NEARLY THAT MUCH. ANYWAY YOU CUT IT, THAT'S GOOD.

OBVIOUSLY WE MAY NOT CONTINUE THAT TREND.

GOOD. THANK YOU, IF YOU COULD GET THOSE TO MIKE HE CAN USE THEM ON SOME KIND OF BACKGROUND HOPEFULLY FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS.

>> MIKE, I'LL GET WITH YOU TOMORROW.

WE'LL LOOK AT SOME NUMBERS JUST SO WE CAN HELP FILL THOSE

BLANKS. >> YEAH, THAT'S GREAT.

CHAIRMAN, THE INTENT HERE IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN CHARICE HAS GOT THE ACTUAL COLLECTION -- LIKE I SAID WE'LL BUDGET THOSE IN ARREARS, RIGHT. GOING FORWARD, NEXT YEAR'S CI CIP -- LIKE I SAID YOU'LL GET MULTIPLE BITES AT THE APPLE AS THE COUNTY MANAGER DEVELOPS NEXT YEAR BUDGET INCLUDING THE CAPITAL BUDGET THEY WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR SPENDING. SO, YEAH,

>> SURE, SURE >> CHAR HPICE.

ON THE IMPACT FEES WHEN ARE WE UP FOR A NEW STUDY?

>> THE RFP IS GOING OUT NEXT WEEK I THINK.

WAYNE, COMMISSIONER BOLLA AND THE MOBILITY STUDY IS GOING TO BE -- SHOULD BE DONE BY THE END OF AUGUST OR SO, SEPTEMBER.

SO WE'LL HAVE -- REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THE MOBILITY FEE STUDY WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE NEW IMPACT FEE SCHEDULE.

SO THAT WILL BE ACTIVELY OUT HERE IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.

AND THEN WE'LL HEAR FROM THOSE PRETTY SHORTLY THEREAFTER

>> THE MOBILITY STUDY IS A DIFFERENT ANIMAL THAN THE IMPACT

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FEE, IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, SIR IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIVERSE. IT WILL LOOKED AT BICYCLE PROJECTS AND MULTIMODAL. IT WILL BE A MORE BROAD STUDY

>> IF WE DON'T GO WITH THAT HOW DOES THAT IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO RAISE THE IMPACT FEE IF WE DECIDE TO STAY WITH THE IMPACT

FEE? >> I THINK THE STUDY WILL SHOW US IN WHAT DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO.

PART OF OUR DISCUSSION WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE IMPACT FEE SCHEDULE CHANGE WAS THE FACT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MULTIMOIDAL BICYCLE THING. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THE STUDY SAYS. IF IT DOESN'T GIVE US ANY NEW AND PROFOUND WE'LL KEEP GOING STEADY AS WE ARE WITH THE IMPACT FEE STUDY AND THE NEW MOBILITY FEE SHOWS.

I THINK THEY'LL ESSENTIALLY SHOW THE SAME THING IF WE DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF OTHER OPPORTUNITY IN THAT MULTIMODAL AND BICYCLE ET

CETERA >> I GUESS WHERE I'M TRYING TO GO WITH THIS, WE ONLY HAVE A BITE AT THE APPLE TO RAISE THE IMPACT FEE ON A THREE-YEAR CYCLE I BELIEVE.

WHEN IS THE DATE ON THE THREE-YEAR CYCLE IF WE CHOOSE NOT TO IMPLEMENT THE IMPACT FEE, WILL WE LOSE TIME RAISING THE IMPACT FEE IF INDEED THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT?

>> I SEE YOUR QUESTION. LET ME PONDER ON THAT ONE.

>> THERE'S A CONTRACT ON THE IMPACT FEE DEAL, RIGHT?

YOU KNOW WHEN THE DATE IS. >> YEAH, BUT I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME. SO I'M LOOKING AT YOU GUYS ON THIS SCREEN SO I CAN'T LOOK AT ANY OTHER SCREEN TO FIND THAT INFORMATION. IT'S THREE YEARS, IT'S EVERY THREE YEARS. WE JUST DID IT.

SO THIS IS OUR FIRST YEAR, SO IT WOULD HAVE TWO YEARS.

>> THAT'S NOT TRUE >> THIS IS COURTNEY.

I THINK THAT IN LIGHT OF THE CHANGE FROM WHAT WE DID WITH FAIR SHARE AND THE FACT THAT WE ELIMINATED THAT, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING TO SWITCH TO THE MOBILITY FEE.

I THINK WE'LL NEED EMERGENCY ED TO HELP USON THIS.

WE NEED A TIMEFRAME OF HAVING IT DONE BY OCTOBER-ISH, THE FALL.

REGARDLESS, I THINK YOU HAVE TO -- WE'LL HAVE TO ASK ED THIS BUT I'M PRETTY SURE YOU HAVE TO SWITCH TO THE MOBILITY FEE --

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THAT'S WHAT WE DID WITH THE FAIR SHARE. I THINK IT'S AT THAT TIME THAT YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO -- YOU'LL FOLLOW THE STUDY AND DETERMINE WHERE YOUR MOBILITY FEE LIES.

THAT WILL BE THE CASE OF THE IMPACT FEE.

>> HOWARD, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T LEAVE ANY MONEY ON THE TABLE. CAN YOU COORDINATE THE TIMING ON THIS SO WE MAXIMIZE OUR OPPORTUNITY?

>> YES, SIR. >> UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TRYING TO

GET AT HERE? >> YES, SIR

>> WE GOT YOU. I GOT YOU.

>> OKAY. >> I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE, THE RFP FOR THE MOBILITY PLAN TO CONVERT THE IMPACT FEE TO A MOBILITY FEE, THOSE BIDS ARE DUE BACK AT THE END OF THIS

MONTH, MARCH 26. >> OKAY.

MAY 26 >> MAY 26, YEAH

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS 20 SOMETHING.

OKAY, THANK YOU, KAREN. THAT'S WHEN WE'LL HAVE THE BIDS BACK, COMMISSIONER BOLLA BACK FROM THAT

>> IF INDEED -- IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE TO CHANGE

IT? >> CORRECT.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. >> THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION WITH D.O.T. AND US MAKING THE CHANGES THAT WE DID, IS THE FACT THAT WE DID GO TO A MOBILITY FEE, YES, SIR.

AT LEAST YOU UTILIZE THAT STUDY TO SEE IF THAT'S THE ROUTE WE

NEEDED TO GO >> PIGGYBACKING ON THAT, THE IMPACT FEE LEVEL, HOW WILL THAT BE DETERMINED? WE HAVE TO DO ANOTHER COMPLETE STUDY IN OCTOBER TO MAKE A CHANGE, TO LEGALLY MAKE A CHANGE TO THAT, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THIS IS ALL PART OF THE -- THE CONSULTANT THAT WE'RE HIRING IN CONNECTION WITH THIS R RFP WL BE DOING THAT

>> ALL IN ONE SHOT, CA

>> THE STUDY WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IS AKIN TO THE STUDIES WE LOOKED AT PREVIOUSLY TO COME UP WITH THE FEE.

IT WILL BE A MOBILITY FEE SO IT'S GOING TO ENCOMPASS MORE

THAN THE IMPACT FEE >> THANK YOU, CHARICE

>> YES, SIR >> STILL HOLDING OUT FOR A BUS ROUTE. GL ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON DISCUSSIONS ON ITEM 16? THIS IS A TWO-VOTE, UNLESS

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WE'VE HAD OUR PUBLIC HEARING AND ADEQUATE DISCUSSION I THINK.

AGAIN, ONE LAST OPPORTUNITY, FOLKS BEFORE WE GO TO A VOTE.

>> HOWARD, THE BOTTOM LINE IS IF WE VOTE NOW AND DECIDE TO CHANGE FOR THE 800 MEGAHERTZ LINE ITEM, WE WOULD HAVE TO VOTE AGAIN,

RIGHT? >> THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.

BUT WE DO HAVE THAT ABILITY TO CHANGE IT, DO WE NOT, COUNTY ATTORNEY? YEP.

SO TODAY IS ONE STEP AND THEN COME JUNE WE MAY GO TO THE SECOND STEP. SO --

>> RIGHT TO FINALIZE THOSE TWO LINE ITEMS OR WHATEVER THEY TURN

OUT TO BE. >> THAT ONE LINE ITEM SPLITTING INTO TWO. OR A THIRD.

BUT THE -- I WANTED TO POINT OUT, OLGA'S BROUGHT UP THE TRUE UP OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, TOO.

THAT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FOR OUR DISCUSSION TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND TO THESE OUTER YEARS. AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT ABILITY SHOULD BE THE ECONOMY TURN SOUTH TO MOVE ITEMS INTO THESE OUTER YEARS AND BALANCE IT OUT SO THAT WE'RE SUCCESSFUL.

AGAIN, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE WENT FROM 60 $.2 MILLION IN THE CURRENT YEAR TO 53 $.143 MILLION AND THAT ALLOWED US TO NOT BE IN THE NEGATIVE IN THAT THIRD YEAR.

AND AS OLGA HAS GONE DOWN FROM OUR DISCUSSION FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, SHE DID ADD IN THE BUDGET 23/24 YEARS THE NORMAL AMOUNTS THAT WOULD FLOW OUT FOR PARTICULAR THINGS LIKE ROAD RESURFACING, EQUIPMENT, GOVERNMENT GENERAL, AS YOU ALL SEE HERE. AND THOSE ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN THAT FINAL COLUMN THAT'S OUT THERE.

WE ALSO TOOK THE COMMENTS FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE MEETING WITH REGARDS TO THAT FINAL YEAR AND OTHER COMMENTS AND THOSE WERE ALL UPDATED WITHIN THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN FOR THE CIP.

A LOT OF UNKNOWNS AHEAD OF US. WE NEED THE ABILITY TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A BALANCED CIP IN THE OUTER YEARS, WHICH WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THAT AS BRIEFED BEFORE.

AND, TWO, HOW DO THOSE OUTER YEARS LOOK AND WHERE WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY IN POSSIBILITY OF MOVING THINGS INTO FURTHER YEARS THAT ARE OUT THERE. AGAIN, UNDER THE PREVIOUS BOARDS AND DISCUSSIONS OF CIP AND WHAT THOSE PRIORITIES HAVE BEEN, THOSE ARE ALL ADDRESSED IN HERE AND I THINK LOOKING AT THIS WHEN JUNE 23RD COMES, I'LL BE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY COME TO THE BOARD AND TELL YOU WHAT THAT RFP IS SAYING FOR 800 MEGAHERTZ AND THEN HOPEFULLY WORKING WITH TROY AND WITH OUR CONTRACTOR THAT'S THERE, THAT'S DOING THIS 9 911 CONSOLIDATION HAVE A BETTER IDEA ON THAT AND THEN WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANY MONEYS LEFT OVER OR I MAY SAY WE CAN'T GET THERE GET HERE FROMTHAT.

THAT'S BASICALLY THE BOTTOM LINE >> QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNTY MANAGER? FOLKS, I THINK WE'VE PRETTY WELL WENT THROUGH THIS ON TOP TO BOTTOM.

I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM 16.

WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? >> I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE CIP ELEMENT BY ORDINANCE AND APPROVE THE RESOLUTION FOR THE NON-CIE

PORTION OF THE CIP >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER

HUTCHINS, IS THERE A SECOND? >> I SECOND

>> OKAY. DISCUSSION?

>> BRING THIS BACK TO YOU THE 26TH OR 23RD OR SOMETHING

LIKE THAT >> I KNEW YOU WAS GOING TO SAY THAT, WAYNE, WE'RE GOOD FOR IT. HOPEFULLY WE'LL PUT IT TO BED THAT DAY. LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE,

COMMISSIONER ROLLINS? >> YES

>> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINS? >> AYE

>> COMMISSIONER BOLLA? >> AYE

>> COMMISSIONER CELLA? >> AYE

>> THE CHAIR VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. WE'RE GOOD TO GO ON THAT. THANK YOU.

I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD DISCUSSION.

A LITTLE LONGER THAN I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT TO WHERE WE NEEDED TO GET TO.

THAT'S THE MAIN THING. WE'RE DOWN TO LETTERS OF DOCUMENTATION, WHICH IS JUST A FORMALITY.

BCC BID OPENINGS AND THE OPENINGS TABULATION ON THE

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I THINK WE'RE GOOD ON THAT UNLESS WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

SO WE'RE DOWN TO OUR LAST AND FINAL -- NOT OUR LAST BUT OUR NEXT TO LAST PUBLIC COMMENT SESSION.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

>> YES, SIR, MR. OTTO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

GLSM >> OKAY, MR. OTTO, LAST WORD, GO

AHEAD. >> YES, SIR, CLAY COUNTY FLORIDA HOTELS. AGAIN, I REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE IF THE CITIZENS COULD WEIGH IN ON THIS $130 MILLION BOND.

I KNOW YOU SAID YOU GOT THE MONEY ALREADY, BUT THE CONTRACTS AREN'T DONE YET AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND IT.

WE GOT STORMS COMING IN AND OTHER ISSUES THAT YOU'VE BEEN LOOKING AT. YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT NATURAL RESOURCES IN THE -- I WOULD SAY ABOUT NATURAL RESOURCES AND SHIPPING STUFF SOMEWHERE ELSE TO BE HAVING POLLUTION, SHIPPING THE SAME MATERIALS BACK. I'M GLAD WE'RE GOING TO GET JOBS BACK HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. AND THE PARENTS AND GUARDIANS NEED TO DO SOMETHING AND I WANT TO KNOW IF THE BOARD IS GOING TO GIVE ANY EXTRA MONEY FOR THE QUIGLEY HOUSE WITH THE INCREASE IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND ALL THAT.

CAN I GET AN AMEN? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RAISING THE IMPACT FEES. WE'RE NOT AT THE BOTTOM WHERE WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN, BELOW THE BOTTOM.

THEY NEED TO GO WAY UP. WE'RE LOOKING AT 220.

THAT'S A FINE ROAD OUT THERE. WE NEED THE BRIDGE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO R LIVE IN ASSISTED HOUSING, THEY CAN WALK TO THE GROCERY STORES AND STUFF. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. YOU'RE PUSHING THAT PROJECT OFF AGAIN. THE MIDDLEBURG BAPTIST CHURCH WAS SUPPOSED TO NOT EXPAND UNTIL THEY FI FIXED THAT 218/2021 PROGRAM. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO REMOVE THE PORTABLE BUILDING WHEN THEY PUT IN THE THREE STORY BUILDING AND THEY'VE BEEN ALLOWED TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.

THAT WHOLE MESS NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP RIGHT THERE AT THAT CORNER. THE BCC WITH SOBS KEEPS APPROVING STUFF ON 220 AND NOW YOU WANT TO KEEP SPENDING MONEY THERE WHEN THEY DIDN'T PAY THE IMPACT FEES.

THEY DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WATER REUSE. I'VE BEEN IN TALLAHASSEE DURING THE MEETINGS WHERE THEY'RE TURNING URINE INTO WATER.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING.

I REALLY WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE NURSING HOME NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBERS ARE WAY OFF ABOUT THE EMPLOYEE DEATHS AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BIG TOPIC HERE. I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT CHARICE STUART. THE STAFF AND EMPLOYEES CAN SHOW UP TO THE MEETINGS BUT THE CITIZENS SHOULD BE ABLE TO CALL IN SCW AND DO WHAT WE'RE DOING T NOW.

THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T CONTINUE THIS FOR THE SEASONS.

I WANT PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT THE OFFICERS DAY OR WEEK WHATEVER THIS WAS. THERE'S NO GOOD EXCUSE FOR CLAY COUNTY TO HAVE OFFICERS ON CARS SITTING AT OUR SCHOOLS.O SO THE COUNTY COMMISSION BOARD NEEDS TO MAKE THIS RIGHT AND BUY THOSE CARS AND GIVE THEM TO THE SHERIFF AND SOME OF THEIR FUNDING, HOWEVER YOU'RE GOING TO WORK OUT YOUR FUNDING AND ALL THAT. BUT, FOR ALL THOSE CARS THAT SITS THERE AT SCHOOLS . I HEARD STORIES ABOUT THEM DOING GOOD WORK OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOLS.

THAT'S NOT WE HIRED THEM TO DO. THE SHERIFF IS OUT THERE TO DO THAR JOB. THETHEIR JOB. LET'S OPEN UP THE PLAYGROUNDS SO SCHOOLS CAN PLAY THERE AND HAVE THE SROS BE

WHERE THEY CAN BE >> THAT'S YOUR 30 MINUTES, APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. WE'RE DOWN TO FINAL COMMENTS BY

[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]

GO AHEAD >> I'LL GO AHEAD, MR. CHAIR.

JUST A QUICK QUESTION. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO GET AN UPDATE FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON THE INTERNET PROJECT? I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON LAYING LINE, GOTTEN A LOT OF COMMENTS NOW THAT FAMILIES ARE DOING ONLINE SCHOOL THAT -- IT'S REEMERGES THE CHALLENGE WE ALREADY KNOW IS CERTAIN PARNTS PARTS OFTHE COUNTY HAVE VERY BAD INTERNET

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>> TROY, YOU'RE STILL WITH US? >> YES, SIR.

>> COULD YOU GET THE SCHOOL BOARD, MAYBE HAVE THEM GIVE A REPORT TO US ON OUR NEXT MEETING ON THE TOPIC MR. ROLLINS JUST

BROUGHT UP? >> YES, SIR, NOT A PROBLEM.

>> OR JUST SEND LIKE AN E-MAIL STATUS UPDATE, WHATEVER, JUST WOULD BE AWESOME TO KNOW. I KNOW THEY GAVE US AN UPDATE A WHILE BACK. I WAS CURIOUS WHERE THAT WAS AT

WITH CORONAVIRUS AND ALL >> MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD JUMP IN ON THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC. SENATOR RICK SCOTT, AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMERCE COMMITTEE, IS MEETING TOMORROW MORNING TO DISCUSS RURAL INTERNET. AND MAKING I A DETERMINATION AS HOW THEY CAN GET MONEY IN PHASE FOUR OF THE CORONAVIRUS PACKAGES. SO COM COMMISSIONER ROLLINS YOUY WANT TO GIVE HIS OFFICE A CALL. HE'S COME OUT IN FAVOR OF IT OBVIOUSLY, SO WE NEED HIM -- I KNOW HE'S GOT SUPPORT HERE

>> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KNOW THAT.

I'LL DEFINITELY REACH OUT, APPRECIATE THAT

>> YEAH, I DON'T WANT TO STEAL THE SCHOOL BOARD'S THUNDER, BUT I TALKED TO THE GUY HERE A COUPLE DAYS AGO.

I UNDERSTAND HE'S A LITTLE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE SO IT'S GOING WELL

>> AWESOME >> WE'LL LET HIM REPORT OUT.

>> THANK YOU. GAVIN, MIKE, DID Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE DOWN TO

WAYNE >> I DON'T KNOW, I WAS WAITING FOR COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. I'LL JUMP IN AND FINISH UP.

ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE I THINK WOULD BE OF INTEREST TO EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS, WE TALKED ABOUT TAKING THE RESURFACING MONEYS THAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW BY RANKINGS AND SPLITTING IT OUT INTO EACH DISTRICT IN EQUAL AMOUNTS AND TAKING THAT SAME RANKING AND THEN GIVING THOSE MONEYS SO EACH DISTRICT WOULD HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF, OBVIOUSLY, ROADS THAT WOULD BE CAPABLE OF BEING RESURFACED IN A PARTICULAR YEAR AND THEN TAKING A PORTION OF THAT MONEY. AND THEN AS DALE CALLED IT A GATEWAY FUND FOR THOSE ROADS WHICH COULD BE LIKELY -- LIKE OAKLEAF PARKWAY OR LARGER ROADS, WHICH HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC SO THAT EACH DISTRICT MIGHT AGAIN -- DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE. WE DON'T GO WHAT WE HAVE BUT WHAT WE HAVE BUDGETED IS $4 MILLION.

TAKING $600,000 AND GIVING IT TO EACH DISTRICT AND THE REMAINING BE USED ON GATEWAY. THAT WAS A PLAN THAT DALE HAD EXPRESSED TO SEE IF THAT WERE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP US IN TERMS OF GETTING MORE ROADS IN DIVERSE AREAS OF THE COUNTY DONE. AND I'LL JUST THROW THAT OUT AT THIS POINT. WE DON'T NEED TO DISCUSS, BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AND DISCUSSED AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE. SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO GIVE THAT SOME THOUGHT. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I WANTED TO BRING UP IS THAT IN TALKING WITH CHARICE STUART, WE GOT TWO THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO PUT ON THE TABLE. ONE IS IN TERMS OF THE BORROW PIT WE TALKED ABOUT BACK IN NOVEMBER, I THINK IT WAS NOVEMBER 26TH MEETING, IT WAS INCREASING THAT BORROW PIT FROM 25% OF THE PROPERTY TO 50% OF THE PROPERTY.

IF YOU RECALL, SUSAN FRASER INDICATED THE MAJORITY OF THAT WOULD BE RIGHT OF WAY OWNED BY FDOT.

THEY WOULD GO RIGHT TO THE EXPRESSWAY.

FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN AND HEARD FROM FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA, A LOT OF THOSE TRUCKS ARE IT HADDING OUR ROADS.

I'D LIKE TO LOOK INTO THAT TO SEE IF THEY'RE RIPPING UP OUR ROADS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA AFTER WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO. I'M A LITTLE UPSET BY THAT.

AND ONE OTHER THING IN TERMS OF BORROW PITS, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPROVE BORROW PITS AND THE SIZE OF THE BORROW PITS. WE DO THAT WITH I BELIEVE PONDS. IF YOU'VE GOT LIVESTOCK ON PROPERTY YOU CAN DO A POND. WE DON'T HAVE CONDITIONAL USE ON LAKE AMENITIES. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT APPROVAL AS WELL. IF YOU THINK THAT'S WORTH WHILE TO LOOK INTO I'D LIKE TO HAVE CHACHARICE LOOK INTO THAT AND BG A REPORT BACK ON THAT. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE SIR, THANK

YOU >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA?

>> YEAH, PICKING UP ON THAT THREAD.

I'VE BEEN GETTING SEVERAL E-MAILS ABOUT THE BORROW PIT OUT THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO LOOK INTO IT.

THE OTHER ISSUE WAS THE DIVVYING UP OF THE ROAD MONEY.

I WATCHED THE INFRASTRUCTURE MEETING.

ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH THE WAY WE'VE GOT THINGS SET UP IN

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OKAY. POSSIBLY WE DON'T HAVE THE FORMULA CORRECT. BUT EVENTUALLY -- THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH MONEY IN THE PAYOUT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD MORE ROADSISM ROADS. WE'RE GOING TO DIVVY IT UP DIFFERENT. I COME DOWN ON THE SIDE OF LET'S LET AN INDEPENDENT PARTY PICK THE WORST ROAD AND FIX IT.

MAYBE THE PART WHERE WE DON'T HAVE QUITE RIGHT IS HOW MUCH THE ROAD IS GETTING USED. IT OCCURS TO ME THAT IF SOME OF THESE HIGH USAGE ROADS LIKE THE PARKWAYS AND STUFF LIKE THAT GET USED MORE, THEY OUGHT TO GET MORE MAINTENANCE AND GET RESURFACED MORE BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE ARE USING THEM.

AND I KNOW WE'VE KNOT SOME COMPONENT IN THERE FOR THAT.

BUT I PERSONALLY -- THE FORMULA GETS SO DARN COMPLICATED, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY MANAGER AND I HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.

YOU KNOW, THE JACK WITH THE AX IS WILD AND BY THE TIME THIS IS DONE NOBODY KNOWS HOW IT'S GETTING DONE ANYMORE.

I PREFER TO LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS OR WAS.

I'M GLAD TO GET WHAT I GET, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT SOME AREAS ARE IN MORE NEED THAN MY DISTRICTS.

I'VE GOT SOME AREAS THAT ARE RELATIVELY NEW.

THIS KIND OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WHO GETS THE MONEY IS KIND OF A CLASS WARFARE KIND OF SITUATION. I GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY DO THESE PEOPLE GET IT, WE DON'T.

THAT KIND OF THING. IF I COULD SAY THIS IS DONE ON NEED, HERE'S THE OBJECTIVE CRITERIA AND THAT'S HOW WE DO IT. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT

ON THAT ONE. >> THAT'S STILL THE SAME WAY.

WE HAVEN'T CHANGED IT, WE JUST DISCUSS IT. DALE BROUGHT THAT UP AS A POTENTIAL. NOTHING HAS CHANGED WITH THAT.

>> STEER THE MONEY SO ONE DISTRICT GETS THE SAME AMOUNT AS THE OTHER, THAT'S WHAT I DON'T LIKE.

OKAY. >> OH, NO.

>> AS FAR AS THE NEEDS -- >> JUST AN IDEA.

WE DISCUSSED THAT AT THE MEETING.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT TO BE VETTED.

MY FEELING IS THAT WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB WITH THE RANKINGS.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE NOT PERFECTED THAT.

WE'VE TWEAKED IT A COUPLE TIMES BUT I STILL DON'T THINK WE'RE ESSENTIALLY GE GETTING THE WORSF THE ROADS DONE.

THAT'S SOMETHING -- A DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER DAY

>> HOPEFULLY THIS TPO SYSTEM MAY SHED SOME LIGHT ON GETTING THAT FIXED A LITTLE BETTER. THAT'S HOW I USED TO DO IT AT THE RAILROAD. WE LET SCIENCE TAKE OVER AND IT WORKED GOOD AFTER WE GOT ALL THE BUGS WORKED OUT.

I AGREE WITH DALE'S CONCEPT IN TRYING TO MATCH IT UP WITH HIS EYEBALL ANALYSIS OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THE MACHINE IS TELLING HIM SO WE GET THAT RIGHT.

AT SOME POINT, THIS SHOULD BE A LITTLE MORE OBJECTIVE THAN IT IS. THE ONLY THING I WAS OBJECTING TO IS HOW -- AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S STILL POLITICAL AT THE END OF THE DAY. BUT HW DO WE -- YOU KNOW, BALANCING THIS STUFF, IT'S AN ELECTION CYCLE YEAR, TOO.

I GET THAT. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE NEED TO BE DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COUNTY AS FAR AS THESE ROADS GO. YOU CAN DRIVE FROM ONE DISTRICT TO THE OTHER, YOU DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE YOU'RE IN, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. WHILE I'M ON ROADS, I'LL GIVE A SHOUTOUT AND KUDOS TO DALE. I GOT A LOT OF SMILES AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE BOTTOM RIDGE PROJECT.

I KNOW IT TOOK A LONG TIME BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF GOOEY THINGS GOING ON WITH DRAINAGE AND EVERYTHING US.

CCUA DID A GOOD JOB AS WELL. STILL TRYING TO GET THIS FINISHED SO THAT WE KIND OF WORK A LITTLE BETTER TOGETHER WHEN WE GET ALL THOSE NEW PROJECTS COMING UP.

AS FAR AS THE CHINA PLAN GOES, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

BUT I'D ALSO SUGGEST THAT THE REASON WE'RE IN THIS MESS IS NOT BECAUSE CHINA WAS BEATING UP ON US IT'S BECAUSE WE DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT COUNTED IN AMERICA.

WE NEED TO GET BETTER ON WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND THAT'S WHY ALL THAT STUFF IS IN CHINA.

NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE UNFAIR OR ANYTHING.

WE JUST NEED TO GET BETTER AT MANUFACTURING AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA.

COMMISSIONER HUTCHINS? >> THANK YOU.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE COUNTY MANAGER.

HOWARD, HAVE YOU GOT P PLAN FOR BRINGING BACK IN? IS EVERYBODY BACK TO WORK? WHERE ARE WE AT?

>> YES, MA'AM. WE'RE TAKING DIRECTION FROM GOVERNOR DESANTIS IN THE PHASED APPROACH.

EACH ONE OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS HAS SUBMITTED THEIR PLANS INTO

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WE'RE ALSO COORDINATING WITH THE OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL AND THEIR REOPENING PLANS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

>> DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF WHEN WE'LL BE FULLY BACK UP AND

RUNNING? >> NOT UNTIL WE REACH PHASE 3 AND BEYOND. I WOULD ANTICIPATE MAYBE LATER THIS WEEK TO GO TO PHASE 2 OR EARLY NEXT WEEK.

AND THEN IT WILL DEPEND UPON HOW WE PROGRESS WITH THE NUMBERS AND ENSURING THAT WE DON'T HAVE A RESPIKE WITH REGARDS TO THE

CORONAVIRUS >> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS REALLY ALL THAT I HAD ON MY MINDC MIND. I'M READY TO GET BACK TO WORK

AND I HOPE EVERYBODY IS, TOO >> YEP.

ANY OF THE STAFF MEMBERS STILL ON BOARD HAVE ANY COMMENTS, PLEASE? GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME. I THINK THEY'VE ALL HAD ENOUGH.

YEAH, I THINK EVERYONE IS READY TO GET BACK TO WORK, MS. HUTCHINS. YOU KNOW, JUDGING FROM THE TRAFFIC ON CLAY COUNTY ROADWAYS THE LAST THREE, FOUR, FIVE DAY DAYSI'D SAY MOST OF THEM ARE BA. TRAFFIC HAS BEEN REALLY REALLY -- PICKED UP. WHICH IS GOOD OUR OIL INDUSTRY IS IN DIRE NEED OF SELLING OIL. THAT HAVE TAKEN A REAL HIT HERE DURING THIS PROCESS. FOLKS, WE'RE ABOUT DONE.

I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY AS A CRISIS, IT ALWAYS BRINGS THE BEST PEOPLE TO THE FOREFRONT BUT IT ALSO BRINGS A FEW BAD ONES.

I'VE JUST BEEN SO PROUD OF CLAY COUNTY FOR THE GOVERNMENT RIGHT DOWN TO THE CITIZEN LEVEL. I THINK WE'VE SHOWN OUR BEST, UNLIKE SOME OF THE COUNTIES AND STATES IN OUR NATION.

A FEW OF THEM HAVE HAD THEIR WORST SHOW UP.

BUT OUR COUNTY AND OUR STATE I THINK SHOULD BE COMMENDED AND CAN COMMEND EACH OTHER ON HOW WE'VE HANDLED THIS CORONAVIRUS CRISIS. WITH THAT SAID, WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

THANK YOU >>

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.