[00:00:03] WE'RE UP AND READY. >> YES, SIR. COMMISSIONER HUTCHENS IS HERE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WITH NICK. DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT IS WAITING FOR ANY COMMENTS? >> GOT ONE. MR. OTTO. UNMUTE. >> HOLD JUST A SECOND. LET THE CHAIRMAN START US OFF WITH HIS COMMENTS AND THEN HE CAN BEGIN WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. >> THANK YOU. WE WELCOME YOU TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE THAT ALSO INCLUDES PARKS AND RECREATION AND STEM. THE IT IS OUR COMMITTEE MEETING FOR MAY 5, 2020. WE HAVE THREE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TODAY. WE'LL DISCUSS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS OTHERWISE KNOWN AS CIP. I'LL DISCUSS THE ROAD PAVING PROJECTS WITHDALE SMITH AND WE'LL GET A PROJECT UPDATE FROM HIM AS WELL AS A PROJECT UPDATE FROM MR. HOUSEHOLD FRESH FACILITIES AND PARKS AND RECREATION AND OF COURSE WE'LL HAVE OUR COUNTY MANAGER STANDING BY FOR ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH [PUBLIC COMMENTS] ANYTHING ELSE THIS AFTERNOON WE'LL GO TO OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS. I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE ONE PERSON ON THE LINE. WE CAN TAKE THAT CALL AT THIS TIME IF YOU'D LIKE TO GET THAT STARTED. GO AHEAD AND STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOUR PHONE. >> I'M HERE. >> IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET STARTED GO AHEAD. WE'RE STARTING PUBLIC COMMENT AND YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> CLAY COUNTY FLORIDA HOTELS. I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE $130 MILLION BONDING THAT THE COUNTY IS TRYING TO DO. I'M TOTALLY AGAINST THAT. THE BOARD IS TALKING ABOUT KEEPING JOBS LOCAL AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SPEND A LOT OF MONEY AT ONE TIME. IT'S GOING TO GET BUILT UP. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE JOBS. WRITE YOUR COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND TELL THEM YOU ARE NOT IN FAVOR FOR THIS PROJECT FOR BASICALLY ONE PART OF THE COUNTY. MOST OF ALL THE MONEY IS GOING TO BE GOING TO ONE AREA OF THE COUNTY AND THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING AT ALL. WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON SIDEWALKS OF COURSE. THE PARKLAND IS HELPING WAS THAT. WE NEED TO OPEN UP OUR SCHOOL PARKS. I KNOW CHAIRMAN DOESN'T LIKE TALKING ABOUT SCHOOLS. BUT THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO DO SO. AND THE SRO SHOULD BE AT THE SCHOOLS AT THE PLAYGROUND AND WATCHING OVER THE SCHOOLS, DOING THEIR JOB, WHAT WE VOTED THEM DO WHICH WAS TAKE CARE OF OUR SCHOOLS. WE DON'T NEED TO BE SPENDING THE MONEY ON THE PARKS LIKE WE ARE EXCEPT FOR THE TRAILS. THE TRAILS ARE A REAL GOOD THING. KEEP PEOPLE OFF THE ROADS. WE HAD WAY TOO MANY CITIZENS GETTING HIT ON THE ROADS IN CLAY COUNTY. I'D LIKE TO BOARD TO LOOK AT THE DEATHS THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT IN THE NURSING HOMES. THEY ONLY REPORTED IN ONE NURSING HOME THAT IT WAS ONE EMPLOYEE AND TURNED OUT TO BE 7 EMPLOYEES OR SOMETHING I HEARD. IF THE BOARD COULD REFLECT ON THAT. I WAS TRYING TO GET ON THE FIRE MEETING AND I CALLED IN THIS MORNING AND I WAS NOT ABLE TO GET ON AT 3:00 HAD WHEN THEY SAID I COULD. I'VE DONE THIS BEFORE ONCE IN THE FINANCE MEETING. IT SHOULD BE FRIENDLY TO THE CITIZENS AND THIS SHOULD BE GOING ON IN A FORWARD MOTION WHEN WE HAVE CITIZENS BACK AT THE MEETINGS. THEY SHOULD STILL BE ABLE TO CALL IN AND DO IT ON THE PHONE AND MAKE THEIR COMMENTS KNOWN TO THE OTHER CITIZENS AND TO THE BOARD. THE ANIMAL SHE WANTER IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. WE NEED A HUMAN SHELTER FOR THE VETS AND HOMELESS. >> WOULD YOU PLEASE WRAP IT UP IF YOU COULD. >> OK. SO DEFINITELY PLEASE NO [00:05:04] $130 MILLION LOAN RIGHT NOW. WE NEED TO HAVE THE SLOW GROWTH FOR THE CITIZENS TO HAVE THOSE JOBS IN THE FUTURE. I THINK THEY WERE SAYING CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE OVER IN A FEW YEARS. I HEARD AT THE FINANCE MEETING I'D LIKE Y'ALL TO TALK ABOUT THE CONGESTION WHILE YOU ARE TRYING TO FORCE ALL THESE PROJECTS. >> ALL RIGHT MR. OTTO THANK YOU. >> I LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING TO NIGHT AT THE PLANNING MEETING. >> THANK YOU SIR. >> DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER CALLS WE NEED TO GET TO? >> NO. THAT'S APPARENTLY THE LAST. >> OK. AND WE ARE TRYING OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REFLECT EVERYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO CALL AND MAKE AN APPEARANCE BEFORE THE COMMITTEE OR A COMMITTEE AND THE BOARD. WE KNOW IT'S NOT THE EASIEST THING IN THE WORLD BUT WE ARE TRYING OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE TO GET YOUR OPINIONS BASED ON THE MEETINGS. HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE THROUGH WITH THIS VIRTUAL ASPECT OF MEETINGS SOON AND WILL BE ABLE TO RETURN [1.  Discussion of Capital Improvement Projects (CIP)] TO OUR REGULAR MEETING FORMAT. THREE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. FIRST IS DISCUSSION OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. HOWARD, ARE YOU GOING TO START US OFF WAY LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE? >> YES, SIR, I'LL KICK THIS OFF HERE. SO LOOKING AT THIS, ON THESE THREE AGENDA ITEMS AND LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US TODAY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE MEETING -- GIVE ME JUST A SECOND FOR TECHNICAL. >> SO THE CAP IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, CIP, THAT IS WHERE MOST OF THE MONEY THAT IS SPENT THERE IS COMING OUT OF THE ONE CENT SALES TAX INFRASTRUCTURE SALES TAX. AND THAT IS HOW WE SPEND THE CAPITAL MONEY FOR THE COUNTY. TODAY WE'RE ACTUALLY RUNNING IT THROUGH 2023 AND 2024. AND LOOKING AT HOW THE CASH FLOW WORKS IN TERMS OF THE CAPITAL. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW. >> YES, SIR. >> WITH THIS IN ORDER TO REALLY% PROPERLY TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, THERE IS A LOT OF ITEMS WITH REGARDS TO THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR ECONOMY AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE AHEAD OF WAS COVID-19. WE'LL ADDRESS THAT BRIEFLY AT THE BEGINNING. THEN LOOKING AT WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH REGARD TO $129 MILLION AND THE SIX BONDING PROJECTS, WE DEFINITELY KNEW WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO REWORK THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS LISTED. SO I ASKED MIKE PRICE, OUR COUNTY AUDITOR AND RABAL TO LOOK AT BOTH THE REVENUE SIDE FIRST AND THEN LOOK AT THE PROJECT. SO TO START US OFF I ASKED MR. PRICE TO JUST BRIEF US INITIALLY ON HIS INITIAL EVALUATION WITH REGARDS TO REVENUES AND FUNDING THE CIP THAT IS WITHIN OUR CURRENT BUDGET AND WHERE WE STOOD THERE AND THEN WHEN THEY DID MEET WITH BOTH DEAL AND JAMES WHERE THAT FLOWED OUT IN THE OUTER YEARS. MR. PRICE, FUR AVAILABLE, I STILL SHOW YOU MUTED. LET'S GO TO MIKE PRICE. ARE YOU WITH US? >> I AM. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONER. NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN. IT BEEN FIVE WHOLE MINUTES SINCE THE LAST MEETING. >> LET ME SEE IF I CAN SHARE IT WITH YOU. YOU HAVE A SPREAD SHEET ON YOUR [00:10:06] SCREEN? >> NOT YET. LET ME SHARE THIS. OK LET ME SHARE THIS ONE WITH YOU. THIS IS YOURC IP REVENUE, EXPENDITURES AND YOUR CASH BALANCES CARRY FORWARD. BEFORE WE GOAT THAT I WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH. YOU SEE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE WAY YOUR SKI PRESENTED TO YOU THIS YEAR. CIP IS PRESENTED TO YOU THIS YEAR. WE ESTABLISHED FROM 120 YOU RECALL THAT IN PREVIOUS YEARS INFRASTRUCTURE SALES SURTAX IMPACT ALL THOSE REVENUE STREAMS WENT INTO FUND 305. REQUIREMENTS OF YOUR BOND CONTRACT REQUIRE THAT ALL INFRASTRUCTURE SALES SURTAXES GO TO A SEPARATE SURTAX REVENUE FUND. SO THAT IS WHAT WAS CREATED IN FINANCE ON THE FULL BOARD NEXT TUESDAY. THE NEXT CELL DOWN, YOU WILL SEE THAT'S THE LOCAL SURTAX RECEIPT THAT ARE STIM TO BE -- [INAUDIBLE] AND THEN OTHER INTEREST EARNINGS ON THAT BASED ON THE LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX PUT IN INTEREST EARNING ACCOUNTS WHILE THEY ARE WAITING FOR PROJECTS TO BE PAID OUT. INFRASTRUCTURE DUE, SURTAX FUND 120 SEE RECEIPTS THIS YEAR OF $142,251,593. AND SO YOU HAVE TO BACK OUT 5% OF THE REVENUE, 25% YOU HAVE TO BACK OUT THE REMAINING SALES TAX YOU HAVE TO COLLECT AND SOME OF THE OTHER INTEREST EARNINGS. YOU HAVE $141.6 MILLION AVAILABLE. IF YOU COME DOWN TO THE EXPENDITURES OF THIS, THIS STUFF STARTS WORKING AND I'M GIVING YOU THIS FOUNDATION BECAUSE IT WILL EMPHASIZE WHY WE NEEDED TO TAKE A LOOK AT FUND 305TH REENGINEER THE PROJECT. SO THE FIRST THING WE HAVE IS A TRANSFER OF THE BOND PROCEEDS DUE REVENUE BOND CONSTRUCTION FUND WHICH IS THE BONDED PROJECTS. THAT MONEY IS MOVED RIGHT OFF THE TOP RIGHT OUT INTO A SEPARATE FUND THAT DEALS JUST BE W THE BOND PROJECTS. THE NEXT EXPENSE THAT YOU SEE IS A PAYMENT FOR THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH ISSUING THE BONDS. THE NEXT THING THAT YOU SEE IS THE TRANSFER OF INTEREST EARNED FROM VESTED BOND PROCEEDS TO CONSTRUCTION FUNDS WHICH WILL GET EXTRA IN THAT CONSTRUCTION FUND THIS YEAR. THE NEXT YOU SEE IS A TRANSFER OF SALES SURTAX REVENUE DEBT BOND, YOU'LL SEE A TRANSFER OF MONEY TO THE BOND DEBT SERVICE FUND THAT WAS CREATED IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING PRIOR. WE'RE ONLY PAYING INTEREST THIS YEAR AND IT'S DUE OCTOBER 1. THE REASON WE'RE MAKING TRANSFERS NOW IS BECAUSE CONTRACT REQUIRES THE MONEY BE IN DEBT SERVICE FUND 60 DAYS PRIOR TO THE DATE THE PAYMENT IS PAID OUT. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE RESIDUAL HAVE AFTER YOU TAKE OUT ALL OF [00:15:03] THOSE THINGS, THAT IS WHAT IS LEFT TO FUND PROJECTS. YOU CAN SEE THAT RESIDUAL RUNNING THROUGH YEARS, THAT IS WHAT WE'VE DONE. WE'VE TAKEN OUT THE DEBT SERVICE. THIS THERE IS THE INTEREST AND THERE IS THE PRINCIPLE PAL IN EACH SUCCEEDING YEAR AND THE REMAINING AFTER YOU PAY OUT THE DEBT SERVICE. WE USED TO HAVE A SINGLE LINE ITEM WHERE WE TRANSFERRED MONEY DIRECTLY OUT OF FUND 305. THE EFFECT IS THE SAME. IT CAUSES US TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT HOW WE WOULD -- HOW FUND 305 WOULD LOOK AFTER WE CARVE OUT THE BOND PROJECTS AND LOOK AT WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO FUND EVERYTHING THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED IN CIP. GOING TO THE BOND CONSTRUCTION FUND, YOU CAN SEE THE SAME THING. THIS IS JUST THE MONEY ARRIVING FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE BOND PROJECTS AWE PROVED ARE IN THE EXPENDITURES. NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, THOSE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO OCCUR AND THEY ARE ALREADY FUNDED IN ADVANCE. ANY QUESTIONS SO SMART. >> I NOTICE ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE THAT ACCOUNTS FOR 95%. WE KEEP 5% ALWAYS OUT OF THAT? >> 5% OF REVENUES IS A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT. WE KNOW HOW MUCH REVENUE IS GOING TO BE. THE 95 YOU ARE CARVING OUT IS APPLICABLE TO THE SALES TAX THAT ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ROLL INTO THIS FUND, 5% OF THOSE HAVE TO BE HELD OUT PLUS 5% OF THE INTEREST EARNED. AFTER YOU TAKE OUT ALL THE DEBT SERVICE IN FUTURE YEARS, THEN THE RESIDUAL GOES TO FUND 305. LET'S JUMP OVER TO FUND 305. THIS IS PRIOR CARRYOVER INTO THE CURRENT YEAR. AFTER ALL THE DEBT SERVICE IS DONE, THEN WE HAVE OUR LOCAL OPTION GAS TAX RECEIPTS, IMPACT FEES WHICH WE BUDGET IN AREARS. IT'S DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE WHAT FUTURE REVENUES WILL BE AND THE INTEREST EARNINGS THAT GO FORWARD. YOU HAVE THE OTHER REVENUE SOURCES. COMMISSIONER HUTCHENS WILL RECALL THESE, WE DISCUSSED THEM IN DEPTH WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT BONDING ANY WAY. AS WE COME DOWN TO EXPENDITURES AN LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT WAS PROGRAMMED, WHAT YOU HAVE IN THESE TWO YEARS -- I WANT TO CALL UP THE OTHER EXCEL SPREAD SHEET N.2022-2023 BEFORE WE STARTED REARRANGING THE SCHEDULE, THIS WAS ABOUT A $9 MILLION DEFICIT. AND SO THAT DEFICIT VIRTUALLY DESTROYED THE CIP SKIED SCHEDULE GOING FORWARD FROM THERE. WE ELIMINATED DOUBLE COUNTY LEADERSING THERE. WORKED WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS AND WE WORKED WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEAD AND COUNTY MANAGER TO PRIORITY TAZE PROJECTS AND SPREAD THEM OVER TIME TO BALANCE THIS. WE ENDED UP WITH A $2 MILLION POSITIVE EXCESS OF REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURES THAT WOULD CARRY FORWARD INTO SUBSEQUENT YEARS. WHAT DID THAT LOOK LIKE? [00:20:02] I THINK THIS IS WHERE YOU WILL GET COUNTY MANAGER WILL JUMP INTO THIS IN MORE DETAIL. JUST TO FUND 305 PROJECTS AFTER WE REENGINEERED THE CIP TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING AND SPREAD IT OVER TIME. I HAVE THE DOCUMENT AND OBVIOUSLY THE KEY THING TO GET WAS IF WE KEPT THE CIP THE WAY IT WAS GOING WE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE NEGATIVE IN THE THIRD YEAR. THAT $9 MILLION HIT, WE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CONTINUE ON. THAT WAS IMPORTANT. ARE YOU OK TO MOVE ON? IN TERMS OF REVENUE , WHAT DID YOU USE TO COME ONE THE REVENUES TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DIP CERTAINLY. BUT WHAT ABOUT FUTURE YEARS, HOW DID YOU MAKE THAT DETERMINATION? LET ME UNSURE THE. ONE IS A PROJECT THAT THE COUNTY MANAGER REFERS TO AS THE WORSE CASE SCENARIO. HOURLY BASICALLY. YOU HAVE GOT THIS IS THE AMOUNT IN THE WORLD THAT WE'RE ALL CLIPPING ALONG IN DECEMBER THIS WOULD APPROXIMATE THE AMOUNT TODAY WE HAVE LEFT TO COLLECT. IF BASED ON ALL THE INFORMATION WE'VE HEARD BASED ON PROJECTED UNEMPLOYMENT RATES. BASED ON THE EFFECTS ON RETAIL AND THE EFFECTS ON GDP PROJECTED DOWNWARD TO REVENUE SOURCES. THE BEST INFORMATION WE GOT IS WE COULD ANTICIPATE IN A WORST CASE SCENARIO A 30% REVENUE HIT. THAT WOULD ROLL DOWNHILL ACROSS ALL REVENUE SOURCES. AND SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THE FIRST RED COLUMN IS THE CURRENT YEAR EFFECT ON THAT. IF THIS COMES TRUE. WE WOULD LOSE ABOUT 3.8 MILLION OF THAT $12.8 MILLION IN ANTICIPATED INFRASTRUCTURE SALES SURTAX. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE FIRST OF ALL THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR DUTY TO DISCLOSE ANY IMPAIRMENT TO OUR VARIOUS REVENUE STREAMS BASED ION QUERY WE GOT FROM OUR REPORTING AGENT. AT SOME POINT THIS TIME WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT THIS INTO WRITING AND DISCLOSE IT TO THE BONDHOLDERSISM WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS EVEN THOUGH WE TAKE THIS KIND OF HIT, THAT REVENUE STREAM STILL REPRESENTS ONE AND A HALF TIMES DEBT SERVICE. WE STILL PAY THIS DEBT SERVICE AND IT'S ABOUT A $6 MILLION HIT TO TO THE TO CIP. INSTEAD OF $9 MILLION TO $11 MILLION OF RESIDUAL CIP [00:25:06] FUNDS GOING FORWARD. WE MAY BE COMING BACK AND REVISITING WHATEVER THE BOARD MAY DECIDE HERE. WE MAY HAVE TO TAKE A GOOD HARD LOOK AT THOSE FUND 305 PRIORITIES. WHAT I DID IS I CAME OVER AND DIVIDED THIS UP BY FUND. THE GENERAL FUND AND ALL THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS COLLECTIVELY. THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, CAPITAL FUND. I GOT A TOTAL ESTIMATED CURRENT FISCAL REVENUES $334 MILLION. BACK BOND PROCEEDS OUT OF THERE AND GET DOWN TO CURRENT YEAR ESTIMATED REVENUE. AND WE'RE NOT FACTORING CASH CARRY FORWARD. WE'RE TRYING TO PREDICT HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE COMING IN FROM THIS POINT FORWARD. THAT AMOUNT IS 205.3 MILLION. IF WE LOSE 30% OF THAT THAT'S A $61 MILLION HIT TO REVENUE WHICH IS WHY BOARD AND COUNTY MANAGER ASKED EVERYBODY TO KEEP THEIR BUDGET REQUESTS LEVEL FROM LAST YEAR. THAT'S A CHALLENGE. BUDGET DIRECTOR AND I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT DIFFERENT STRATEGIES FOR MANAGING THAT SHORT FALL. IT LOOKS BAD BUT THERE ARE STRATEGIES TO MANAGE IT. IF THINGS ARE GOING TO GO DOWN THIS ROAD THERE ARE LOTS OF DECISIONS WE'LL BE BRINGING BACK TO THE BOARD AND DISCUSSING THOSE STRATEGIES GREATER IN DEPTH. >> BEING SAID LET ME SHUT THIS DOWN AND SHOW YOU WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE GOING FORWARD. WHEN YOU GO DOWN THE EXPENDITURES -- [INAUDIBLE] WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN IS EITHER SPREADING PROJECTS OUT IN TIME, YOU GET MORE MONEY OR YOU CASH FLOW THIS FOR GREATER TIME. AS YOU CAN SEE THE OUT YEARS IF WE DO TAKE THOSE KIND OF HITS ARE GOING TO BE CHALLENGING. THERE ARE LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ASSISTANCE FOR STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN THE NEXT ITERATION OF CONGRESSIONAL AID. I THINK THERE IS HELP ON THE WAY. THIS SCENARIO DEFINES HOW DEEP THAT HOLE IS FOR US. I AGREE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS TO HELP OUT, JUST QUESTIONABLE WHAT THAT IS GOING TO BE AND HOW MUCH. I THINK WITH US HAVING A GOOD HANDLE ON WHAT WE NEED TO DELAY OR PUSH INTO THE OUT LYING YEARS, THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE ACTIVELY PLANNING FOR. [00:30:03] BECAUSE UNTIL WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CHECK FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, I DON'T THINK WE CAN COUNT ON THAT. >> THE COUNTY MANAGER HAS ASKED ME TO HELP HIM QUANTIFY WHAT THE LOST REVENUES COULD BE. THE LOSSES WOULD BE THE QUESTIONS ARE CENTERED AROUND REPLACEMENT OF LOST REVENUE. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD TO QUANTIFY WHAT THE LOST REVENUE COULD BE IN A WORST CASE SCENARIO. MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD IS GOING TO BE TO GIVE THE WORST CASE SCENARIO KNOWING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS NOT GOING TO GIVE US EVERYTHING WE ASK FOR. HOPE FOR THE BEST PLAN FOR THE WORST AND USUALLY HAPPENS SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN. WE'LL STAY ON TOP OF IT AND KEEP PLUGGING AWAY. >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> NO. I APPRECIATE THAT YOU ALL ARE TAKING A LOOK DOWN THE ROAD AND I READ A REPORT TODAY THAT THE SALES TAX FOR THE STATE FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH WERE DOWN 25% WHICH IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT WHEN YOU CONSIDER WE WERE ONLY DOWN TWO WEEKS IN MARCH. I'M SURE APRIL IS GOING TO BE PRETTY UGLY. >> THE CURRENT SITUATION NOT PRETTY. I CAN TELL YOU THIS, EVERYTHING CHANGES SO HOW OFTEN AND SO QUICKLY IN THIS THAT WE'RE KEEPING TRACK OF HIGHS AN LOWS DOWN THE MIDDLE. THAT WAY WE CAN ONLY BE HALF WRONG RIGHT? >> THANK YOU MIKE. >> I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD STARTING POINT THE GIVE US AN IDEA AND REALLY TAKING A LOOK AT IT WE NEED TO FIX WHAT WAS AHEAD OF US. I ASKED TO TAKE THE CURRENT YEAR AND TO FIX THAT. THERE IS A PAGE IN YOUR PACKET. IT'S EXHIBIT A AND B. I THINK ON THE REVENUE SIDE THAT PORTION WAS COVERED NICELY WITH MIKE. >> WE'RE GETTING SOME FEEDBACK. >> AS MIKE ALREADY DID, WE CAN GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF REVENUE TO MENTION THAT WE ACCOUNTED FOR ALL CURRENT GRANTS CONTRACT AND ENSURE THAT THEY ARE CURRENT AND EXISTING. AND JUST 5% REDUCTION ELEVEN KNEWS AND ARRIVED AT THOSE AMOUNTS THAT FOR CURRENT YEAR REPRESENT 71,000,473 6: 40. SO. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> >> DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WE HAVE SLIGHT DIFFICULTIES HERE. >> >> WHY DON'T YOU CONTINUE. [00:35:02] >> AND THIS SCREEN NOW WE ARE GOING TO THE EXPENDITURES. AND AS YOU CAN SEE WE WORK WITH MIKE PRICE AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WHO ARE MANAGING THE MAIN PROJECTS AND ARRIVED AS POSSIBLE SCENARIOS TO BRING US INTO THE BLACK WITH ALL THE CONSERVATIVES BUT HAPPY ESTIMATES FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR. SO THE FIRST TWO LINE ITEMS THAT WAS THE SAME PROJECT THAT INITIALLY WAS SEPARATED FOR THE PURPOSES SHOWING THIS STATE FUNDING AND THE COUNTY FUNDING TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH HOW WE BUDGET OUR GRANT FUNDING, WE'RE COMBINING IT INTO ONE PROJECT WHICH IS ATLANTIS DRIVE AND WE WILL HAVE A PORTION FUNDED BY THE GRANT OF 2,065,000 AND OTHER PORTION COMES FROM COUNTY FUNDING. THE NEXT PROJECT IS MOVED INTO THE BOND FUND OOZE IT IS A BOND PROJECT. THE PROJECT FOR COUNTY ROAD EXTENSION IS THE PROJECT FOR 2021 WHERE WE WILL PROPOSE THAT IT SHOULD BAY CONTRIBUTION FROM THE DEVELOPER FOR 7 MILLION AND THE COUNTY IS BUDGETING 2 MILLION OF MATCHING FUNDS. THE NEXT THREE PROJECTS HAVE NO CHANGES FROM THE CURRENT YEAR TO THE AMENDED CURRENT YEAR. SO THE NEXT PROJECT IS COUNTY ROAD 24 COLLEGE PROJECT. AND WE HAVE SOME INCREASE WE'RE TRYING TO RESTORE THE FUNDING TO THE INITIAL AMOUNT SO IT ALLOWS DALE TO CONTINUE WITH THE PROMPTS AND HAVE ALL THE PLANNED AND CONTRACTED EXPENSES TO BE COVERED. THE PROJECT FOR BARKLEY ROAD IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS IF IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. THIS CURRENT YEAR WE'RE NOT STARTND TO PROJECT AND NOT ANTICIPATING TO HAVE THAT TO BEGIN. THE NEXT TWO PROJECTS ARE MOVE TO BOND FUND. AND THEY ARE FUNDED WITH THE BONDING PROCEEDS. THE NEXT ONE THE NEXT TWO IS ALSO THE BOND PROJECTS AND THE FINAL IS WHICH WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE COUNTY ROAD 220. WE ARE TRYING TO RESTORE THE FUNDING BACK TO WHAT INITIALLY IS A PROJECT REQUIRED THEY ARE COVERED UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE NEXT SECTION THAT'S KEY TO GET US IN THE BLACK AND OUT OF THE RED ON A PORTION OF THAT. BEFORE YOU CONTINUE TO THE NEXT SECTION, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS SECTION ONE? THE ONLY THING I WAS GOING POINT OUT, 6091 NOT COMING OUT OF THE BONDING MONEYS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HEARD THAT RIGHT. >> 6096 ALPHA THAT $3 MILLION WAS A GRANT CORRECT? >> CORRECT. THAT WAS A STATE FUNDING. >> PERFECT OK. >> ALL RIGHT. SECTION NUMBER 2 NONPLAN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. WE ARE STABLE WITH THE FUNDING TRANSPORTATION NEEDS FOR THE EQUIPMENT AND BRIDGE IMPROVEMENTS THEN WE ARE GOING TO PARKS AND RECREATION AND TWO LITTLE PROJECTS KITCHEN DINING HALL CAMP CHOW ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED AND REEVALUATED FOR FUTURE YEARS IF THE NEED ARISES. THE SAME IS PAVILIONS PROJECT AND THE REST OF THE PROJECTS ARE CURRENTLY FUNDED AND MOST OF THEM ARE UNDER CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS EXCEPT COUPLE THAT ARE NOT MOVING FORWARD AND THE [00:40:04] COUNTY MANAGER CAN PROBABLY FILL IN A LITTLE BIT BETTER ON THAT IF THE DIRECTION IS TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE FLEMING ISLAND BASEBALL PARK LIGHTING PROJECT OR NOT. AT THIS POINT. >> SO I THINK IF WE HOLD HERE FOR A SECOND. I WANT TO POINT OUT ON THE MARKETS AND PAVILIONS THAT WAS $7,884. WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT ADDITIONAL ONES DOWN TO 6088 THOSE ARE SOME AREAS THIS WE CAN AS MIKE ELUDED TO SHOULD THAT SCENARIO COME UP. EACH ARE AREAS THIS WE'D HAVE TO PUSH TO THE RIGHT IN ORDER TO BALANCE FOR THE CURRENT YEAR AND THE OUTER ONES. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE AT LEAST FOR PARKS AND RECREATION. MOVING FORWARD. ENVIRONMENTAL ANIMAL SERVICE BUILDING THERE IS NO FUNDING IN CURRENT YEAR. IN THE NEXT YEARS WE HAVE TOTAL FUNDING ALLOCATED BETWEEN THREE YEARS OF 7.7 MILLIONS. AND CURRENTLY I KNOW THE BOARD APPROVES THE APPLICATION FOR THE GRANT FUNDING ALSO AND THE MATCH IS ALLOCATED IN YEAR 2021 AT THIS POINT. THE 6051 EQUIPMENT FOR ANNUAL SERVICES CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY NEEDS IDENTIFIED. AS YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE FUNDING ALLOCATED IN OUTER YEARS FOR THE PROJECTS FOR THE BURN BUILDING 135,200 IN FISCAL YEAR 22-23 END IN TOTAL OF 6.5 MILLION SPREAD BETWEEN FISCAL YEARS OF 2021-2023 WHICH IS AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD. THE NEXT THREE PROJECTS ARE STAYING THE SAME AND CONTINUE WITH THE CURRENT PLANS AND CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS THAT EXIST. MOVING INTO THE FIRE STATION 15-17 THE FUNDINGS ARE ALLOCATED IN OUTER YEARS FOR THOSE TWO PROJECTS. AND THE THAT CONCLUDES THE CHANGES IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? WE LOOKED -- >> WE HAVE ONE QUESTION. STAND BY. >> I FORGOT I HAD MUTED MYSELF. ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY REGARDING THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET , THE NEW REQUEST THAT HE SENT OVER IT WERE REGULAR BUDGET REQUEST, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANYTHING FROM HIM FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS? >> YES WE DID, WE RECEIVED 1.7 MILLION REQUEST. CURRENTLY WE PROGRAMMED 1.3 MILLION. >> OK SO THAT'S ALL FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT? >> FOR THE CIP PORTION. >> OK. >> THANK YOU. >> GOING TO THE PUBLIC WORKS THE FIRST CHANGE WE INCREASED THE DRAINAGE STORMWATER BUDGET IN THE DIVISION 6040 ADDING $1 MILLION TO THE PROJECT. SO PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR CAN START ON THE OUTSTANDING CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS HE CURRENTLY HAS. THE NEXT ONE IS THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING. WE INCREASING THE FUNDING SO WE CAN PROCESS THE DESIGN BUILD PROJECT FOR THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING TOGETHER WITH THE MASTER PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING SO TO HAVE BOTH OF THEM COMPLETED WITHIN THIS YEAR OR HOPEFULLY MAYBE LIKE THIS YEAR AND THE YEAR 2021. THE FUNDING FOR THE 70 '6" BRANCH DRAINAGE, THIS ONE IS MOVED INTO FISCAL YEAR 2021 FOR THE 3 MILLION TOTAL AMOUNT. THE MITIGATION THE MOODY AVENUE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS IS ALLOCATED FUNDING OF 216,240 [00:45:05] NEXT FISCAL YEAR. THE MITIGATION MATCH IN 6091 IS THE MATCHING PART WAS PROJECTS FUNDING IN THE NEXT IN THE FOLLOWING GRANTS BELOW WHERE YOU CAN SEE 6092A THROUGH E. WE REALLOCATED IT BASED ON RECEIVED CONTRACTS CURRENTLY AND AS CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS ARE COMING IN, THEY WILL BE AMENDING THE BUDGET AND ALLOCATING THE FUNDING ACCORDINGLY TO WHAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE STATE. 6082, 218 BRIDGE , THIS PROJECT IS REMOVED INTO THE FUTURE YEARS WHEN WE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE THE MORE FUNDING FROM THE FDOT IF IT IS AVAILABLE TO US OR NOT. ANY QUESTIONS ON PUBLIC WORKS? >> NO, NOT AT THIS TIME. >> AS YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER PROJECTS IS MOSTLY EQUIPMENT NEEDS OF DIFFERENT OFFICES, OR DEPARTMENTS AND DIVISIONS OF THE COUNTY. AND THEY STAY THE SAME WITHIN THE SAME BUDGET AS WAS INITIALLY DON'T NOONED CHANGES ANTICIPATED AT THIS POINT. ANY QUESTIONS? >> NO. >> I'M FINE WITH THAT. >> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU. ON OTHER PROJECTS 7087 MUNICIPAL GRANTS, WHAT IS THAT? >> THAT IS THE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE FOR THE GLENCOE SPRINGS. I REMEMBER THANK YOU. >> ARE THERE NIGHEST. >> IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE BOTTOM LINE THE GRAND TOTAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR AS COMPARED TO OUR CURRENT BUDGET TO THE PROPOSAL WE'LL BE BRINGING TO THE BOARD WOULD HAVE A SAVINGS OR -- SHOULDN'T CALL IT A SAVINGS BUT A SAVINGS OF $7.1 MILLION LESS. >> WE'RE WAITING FOR HER TO COME ONE EXHIBIT B. AS SHE'S BRINGING IT UP, IT WILL HAVE A CURRENT BUDGET YEAR AND OUT TO 24. SO THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, YOU [00:50:21] HAVE COPIES IN FRONT OF YOU. YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE REVENUES. THE ONE ITEM AND I WANT HER TO ADDRESS THAT AND I KNOW WHEN SHE BUILT THIS AND TALKING TO MIKE ABOUT IT ALSO WAS THE LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX RECEIPTS IN THE CURRENT YEAR. AND I BELIEVE AND THEN THE TRANSFER IN FROM FUND 120-6789 TYPICALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS YOU USED, IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THAT SO WE HAVE A GOOD FEELENING TO REVENUE COMING IN FOR THAT. I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THIS THIS WHAT TACT DID WE TAKE WITH REGARD TO LOCAL SALES TAX RECEIPTS. DOES THAT MEAN WE DIDN'T TAKE ANY IN IN THE OUTER YEARS OR CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? >> THE LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX RECEIPTS THAT WAS SIMPLY A ROW THAT WE PUT IN TO ACCOUNT FOR THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAD ACTUALLY RECEIVED THIS YEAR. BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF A SPLIT YEAR. HALF THE RECEIPTS WENT TO 305 AND REMAINING RECEIPTS FOR THIS YEAR, REMAINING $12 MILLION IF YOU LOOK BACK AT FUND 120 ARE GOING TO GO INTO FUND 120. IN THE FUTURE ALL OF THOSE RECEIPTS WILL GO INTO FUND 120-6789 THE NEXT LINE TRANSFER IN FROM 120. THAT'S RESIDUAL THAT IS LEFTOVER AFTER DEBT SERVICE IS PAID GOING FORWARD WHAT YOU SEE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE SALES GOING FORWARD IS THAT THIRD LINE DOWN FROM THE TOP WHICH IS STARTS OFF 9.6 MILLION THIS YEAR GOING TO 11.8 NEXT YEAR, 12.2 THE YEAR AFTER, 12.6 AND 13 MILLION THE YEAR AFTER THAT. THAT'S JUST KIND OF ONE OF THE QUIRKS OF BOND CONTRACT BECAUSE HAVE TO TAKE THOSE SALES TAX RECEIPTS AND PUT THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE. WE'RE USED TO SEEING THEM IN FUND 305. >> THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD THAT AND WHAT THE NUMBERS WERE FOR THE REVENUES COMING IN. OTHER THAN THAT THE COLUMN FOR 1-20 IT WERE NUMBERS YOU PREVIOUSLY BRIEFED AND YOU BRIEFED THEM AND INTO THE OUTER YEARS, YOU CAN SEE US ACCOUNTING FOR THE DEVELOPER FUNDING OF 7 MILLION. AND THOSE OTHER UNKNOWNS OF REVENUES ARE OUT THERE WHICH WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE NUMBERS. ONE OTHER ITEM I'LL POINT OUT EACH MONTH WE RECEIVE OUR BASIC TYPEN. WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR SALES TAX REVENUE, OUR GAS TAX AND OTHER REVENUE STREAMS, WE GET THOSE IN AND WE'VE BEEN TRACKING THAT CLOSELY. WE DID RECEIVE OUR TYPE THAN CAME IN AND IT WAS EVEN MONTH OVER MONTH. SLIGHTLY ABOVE YEAR OVER YEAR. IT IS A FALSE SENSE, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE SEEING THIS EFFECT UNTIL JUNE, POSSIBLY JULY IN THAT EFFECT FOR SURTAX. ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE ON THAT? >> LET ME JUST A REASON WHY THAT MAKES SENSE TO EVERYBODY ONCE YOU HEAR IT. REMEMBER WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ALL THE SALES TAXES, ALL THESE THINGS THE MERCHANTS COLLECT THE TAX FOR THE STATE. THEY SEND IT ALL INTO THE STATE. ON MAY THEY HAVE RETURN FOR THE PREVIOUS MONTHS COLLECTIONS. >> THEY WILL DO THEIR THING WITH IT FOR ABOUT A MONTH. NEXT MONTH WE'LL GET CHECK FOR TWO MONTHS THERE. IS A LAG TIME OF TWO MONTHS. THAT'S WHY WE DON'T SEE THAT EFFECT YET. STARTING ABOUT NEXT MONTH YOU ARE PROBABLY GOING TO START TO SEE THAT. [00:55:07] IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THERE? WE ARE TRYING TO PREDICT INTO THE FUTURE. WE ACCOUNTED FOR THE FUND WE KNOW AND THERE ARE SOME UNKNOWNS OUT THERE. IF NOT LET'S MOVE TO EXHIBIT A. WITHIN EXHIBIT A , THE FIRST COLUMN WILL MATCH ONE THE PROPOSED COLUMN JUST BRIEFED. GOING DOWN THE LINE. SHE'S COMBINED THOSE AND THAT'S NUMBER. IF YOU TAKE YOUR LANDSCAPE AND LOOK AT AND COMPARE IT TO THE PORTRAIT VIEW, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE NUMBERS MATCH UP. WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS AND CHECKED IT. WE CHECKED IT YESTERDAY TO MAKE SURE THE NUMBERS MATCHED UP. IT GOES DOWN FOR 60-40 DOWN TO PUBLIC WORKS. WE ASKED AND LOOKED AT A 1 MILLION INCD FOR. ANY CHANGES ARE HIGHLIGHTED, ANY CHANGES TO THE CURRENT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN HERE TO MAKE SURE IT BROUGHT YOUR EYE IT TO AND YOU UNDERSTOOD. GOING DOWN ALL THE WAY TO THE BOTTOM, YOU CAN SEE THAT AGAIN IT WAS 53,143,000. THAT SHOULD MATCH UP. GO BACK UP TO THE TOP PLEASE. IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE OUTER YEARS, 2021. WE HAVE THE 21 EXTENSION HIGHLIGHTED IN THERE. 7 MILLION FROM THE DEVELOPER, 2 MILLION FROM THE COUNTY. YOU SEE THAT THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT IS A CONSTANT EXPENDITURE INTO OUTER YEARS. THEY JUST HAVEN'T BEEN FLOWED OUT INTO THAT FIFTH YEAR JUST YET. WE'RE GOING TO RUN THE NUMBERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUDGET IS BALANCED INTO THOSE REOCCURRING EXPENDITURE PENCES THAT ARE THERE. THESE ARE AREAS WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IF YOU THINK THAT IS AN APPROPRIATE NUMBER OR NOT OR YOU WOULD LET ME KNOW, WOULD YOU LIKE TO INCREASE IT, DECREASE IT OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. GOING DOWN TO TRANSPORTATION, THE BRIDGE IMPROVEMENTS, DALE NEEDS ANOTHER 500,000 NEXT YEAR. WE HAVE OAKLEY PLANTATION SIGNAL THAT I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ANTICIPATING, THAT IS IN 2021. THE FAIRGROUND MASTER PLAN. WE HAD THAT IN THERE AS 5:10 THOUSAND AND PUTTING 2 MILLION IN THERE FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ALLOWS TO US HAVE 2 MILLION IN THERE TO PROVIDE UPGRADE TO THE FAIRGROUND AREA. IF WE NEEDED TO WE COULD PULL MONEY FROM THAT 2 MILLION FOR ANOTHER PROJECT OR ADDITIONAL PROJECT OR REMOVE THE MONEY IF WE NEEDED TO SAVE MONEY ON THAT. GOING OUT DOWN THE ANIMAL SERVICES BUILDING. YOU CAN SEE THE ANIMAL SERVICE AND SHELTER STARTS TO TAKE EFFECT NEXT YEAR WITH 714,000 FOR ENGINEERING REVIEW AND DESIGN. AND THEN THE OUTER YEARS TO BUILD IT. WE HAVE BROUGHT MONEYS INTO CURRENT YEAR. I BELIEVE JAMES SUP. IF HE WANTED TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS WITH REGARD TO THE GUN RANGE, NOW WOULD BE A TIME TO TALK ABOUT THAT. >> LOOKING AT THE SCREEN PUBLIC SAFETY, THE OUTER THREE YEARS ON THAT,. >> WE HAD WHAT I THOUGHT WAS GRACIOUS AMOUNT. >> AND YOU ANTICIPATE HOW MANY PHASES WITHIN THE RANGE? >> PROBABLY THREE AT THIS POINT IF THESE NUMBERS STICK. RIGHT NOW I THINK WE CAN GET BY WITH DESIGNING THE FIRST PHASE THIS YEAR AND WE'RE ASKING FOR ENGINEER ESTIMATES ON THAT. WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE QUICKLY IF OUR 1.8 IS A GOOD NUMBER FOR PHASE ONE CONSTRUCTION WHICH WOULD GIVE US 20 POSITION RANGE FOR THE SHERIFF TO QUALIFY ON AND POTENTIAL FOR PUBLIC USE IF WE WORK ALL THAT OUT. [01:00:06] >> SO THE 303,00 THAT IS ENGINEERING AND DESIGN WORK FOR THE GUN RANGE OR THE BUILDING? >> THAT MULTIPURPOSE LINE IS GOING TO BE THE PUBLIC SAFETY JOINT TRAINING FACILITY IS THE WAY THIS SHOULD READ. THE 410 ROUGHLY LESS THAN 10% OF THE 4 MILLION CONSTRUCTION MONEY IN YEAR THREE. IT WAS THERE INITIALLY. THAT'S FUNDS HA WE USED FOR THE DESIGN AND RESIDUAL COULD STAY THERE AND CARRY OVER INTO THE WE CAN CLEAN UP THE LINES. >> IF YOU LOOK ONITE TOM NOTE 6054 HAS 800 MEGA HURTS. WE HAD A STUDY FOR COMBINED COMMUNICATIONS 911. I THINK I BELIEVE LAUREN IS UP, PERHAPS CHIEF IF HE WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT HE'S WELCOME TO ON THAT AND WHERE WE STAND WITH REGARDS TO THAT. >> IT WILL BE USED TO UPGRADE THE HURRICANE LOCATIONS. GENERATORS THAT WEREN'T PERFORMING THERE. SAN RFP TO DO THAT AND IMPROVE THE LIGHTING TO CURRENT STANDARDS HA WILL ENSURE THAT THOSE LOCATIONS CAN OPERATE FOR THE OUT YEARS. AND THEN REMAINING FUNDS CAN BE TURNED OVER TO THE PROJECT THAT TROY'S GROUP IS WORKING ON TO ANALYZE POSSIBLE CONSOLIDATION OPTIONS FOR THE 911 SERVICE AND DISPATCH CENTERS AS A WHOLE. >> MOVING DOWN 47120 IS THE AMOUNT LEFT THERE AND THE FUNDS TO COVER THE EXTRACTOR. BASED UPON WHAT THE BID COME OUT THAT WAS THE AMOUNT THAT WE WERE EXPECTING. THE BID WAS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THAT AMOUNT. WE'LL GO FORWARD FROM THERE I MY NEED TO COME BARD WITH A BUDGET. ANY COMMENTS? >> I THINK WE'RE EFFORTING A LOCATION THAT WE CAN LOCATE THAT STILL PROVIDES OPTIMAL SERVICE. BUT THE OPPORTUNITY THERE IS TO RELOCATE FROM EXISTING LOCATION THAT WAS FORMER VOLUNTEER STATION USE BID CITY AND IS A BIT CUT UP AND NOT VERY EFFECTIVE FOR FUTURE SERVICE AND MOVE THAT STATION TO A LOCATION THAT IS FACILITY TY MUCH LIKE YOU SEE IN KEYSTONE. , THOSE OUTER YEARS FOR 15, 17 COMMENT ON THOSE. [01:05:08] THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE STATION IS SUCH IT'S NOT A HARDENED FACILITY WHEN IT COMES TO HURRICANE RESILIENCY AND WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH THE DETERIORATION OF THE FACILITY AND ALLOWED MOLD REMEDIATION TO TAKE PLACE AND OTHER THINGS. IT'S TIME TO MOVE THAT TO GET IT OUT OF THE CURRENT LOCATION. BRING IT OUT INTO WHERE THE COMMUNITY IS BEGINNING TO DEVELOP AND BETTER SERVE THAT GROWING AREA. >> THE PUBLIC SAFETY EQUIPMENT, THE CURRENT YEAR INVOLVES COMBINATION OF PAST YEARS WHERE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET DELIVERIES BUT THEN CONTINUE TO ALLOW TO US MAINTAIN THE REPLACEMENT OF ENGINES RESCUES, LADDER TRUCKS ON AN ONGOING BASIS SO WE CAN DO THAT. ONE OF THE TROUBLES I FOUND WHEN I GOT HERE IN 2009 WAS THAT AS MUCH AS WE TRY TO, WE HAD NOT BEEN ON AN EFFECTIVE REPLACEMENT CYCLE. MUCH OF THE EQUIPMENT WAS OLD AND REALLY PAST SERVICE LIFE. AND WE BEGAN TO IMPROVE THAT OVER TIME AND WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT INTO THE FUTURE. SO THAT THE APPARATUS AND EQUIPMENT IS EFFECTIVE AND CONTINUES TO EVERYBODY IS THE GROWING AREAS OF THE COUNTY. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF MOCK? >> NO. OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE STATE BUDGET AND GOVERNOR. WE DO HAVE A LINE ITEM IN THAT BUDGET FOR MONEY FOR THE BUILD AROUND FIRE STATION 20. HOPEFULLY WE KEEP OUR FINGERS CROSSED WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THAT MONEY AND APPLY THAT TOWARD THIS 3.3 MILLION FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY AND BUILDING OF THE BUILDING. >> IF FINAL ITEM REMAINING IS SHERIFF'S CAPITAL EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES. COULD AWE DRESS THE REQUEST FOR THE INCREASE FOR THIS COMING YEAR? >> THE CURRENT REQUEST CAME IN INITIAL CURRENT REQUEST CAME AS 1.7 MILLION. WE INITIALLY WHEN WE WERE BUILDING THIS PROJECTIONS WE HAVE A 1.3 MILLION. IT'S A SHORTAGE OF ALMOST $400,000 RIGHT NOW. BUT WE DON'T WE STILL HAVE TIME TO ANALYZE THE DETAILS AND TO SEE THEM HOPE FLAY I'VE AT A SAFE MEDIUM SO WE CAN FUND REQUEST AT THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL. >> WE HAVE THAT MEETING FRIDAY MORNING AND I BELIEVE OUR FIRST MEETING IS THE W THE CLERK OF THE COURT AND THEN THE FOLLOWUP MEETING THAT MORNING IS WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE CORRECT? >> CORRECT. >> >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY BEFORE WE BEGIN PUBLIC WORKS. JUST BE READY TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS HERE AND I'LL GIVE AN OVERVIEW ON THAT. CURRENT YEARS HAVE BEEN BRIEFED. INTO THESE OUTER YEARS THE ROAD RESURFACING AMOUNT HAS BEEN APPROXIMATELY 800,000 PER DISTRICT WITH. THAT ROAD PAVING THAT COVERS DIRT ROADS TO BE PAVED. A HALF A MILLION INTO THESE OUTERS YEARS TO PAY FOR. THAT STORMWATER DRAINAGE HAS BEEN AN AREA WHERE WE NEED TO FOCUS ON AS IT POSES PROBLEMS AND ISSUES FOR THE ROAD AND DETERIORATING ROAD AND HAVE TO HAVE A STRONG BASE TO FIX THOSE. IN THE COMING YEAR A MILLION DOLLARS AND FLOWS OUT TO 400,000 INTO THOSE OUTER YEARS, ANY COMMENTS ON THOSE FIRST THREE ITEMS? AND MAYBE? >> I'M GETTING UNMUTED. >> THANK YOU. >> ON THE RESURFACING AND WE'LL SHOW A TABLE LATER THAT WILL SHOW WHAT WE FINISHED FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR AND THIS YEAR AND THE 400,000 IS BASICALLY I'VE SHOWN THE COMMISSION SEVERAL TIMES THAT WE'VE GOT PROBABLY ABOUT AN $80 MILLION DEFICIT LONG TERM IN RESURFACING. ON THE DIRT ROAD PAVING , THE REASON WE HAVE A MILLION $80 IS WE JUST FINISHED UP INDIGO. THAT WILL BE COSTED OUT AND THEN WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE TO [01:10:03] ACCUMULATE MONEY. DIRT ROAD PAVING IS ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS A MILE. WE STARTED THE DESIGN ON DEER TRAIL WHICH IS THE NEXT ROAD ON THE LIST IN WEAN THE MONEY THAT IS LEFT OVER FROM THIS YEAR FROM INDIGO AND THE $500,000 NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO DEER TRAIL. AND THE STORM DRAIN I HAD A LITTLE OVER $900,000 IN THE CURRENT BUDGET I HAVE TWO PROJECTS RIGHT AT $900,000. I'VE GOT BASICALLY A $2 MILLION DEFICIT. I SPREAD IT OUT OVER TWO YEARS. I PHYSICALLY CAN'T DO ALL FOUR OF THE PROJECTS THAT I NEED TO DO IN ONE YEAR. AS SOON AS THIS IS APPROVED, I WILL BE LOOKING AT PURCHASE ORDERS FOR TO TOWNSHIP DIRECTORS MAJOR DRAINAGE SYSTEMS THAT HAVE OUT LIVED THEIR LIFE EXPECTANCY AND HAVE FAILED AND ARE CAVING IN. >> OK. >> AND THEN JUST TO CONTINUE ON. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR THE NEXT THREE ITEMS WHICH WOULD BE THE STUDIES INDIGO BRANCH DRAINAGE AND MOODY, ANY COMMENTS ON THOSE? ANY COMMENTS ON THE NEXT THREE? >> ON INDIGO BRANCH , THIS IS A NATURAL STREAM THAT IS ACTUALLY MOVING SOUTHERLY AND IS APPROACHING SEVERAL HOUSES. I'VE GOT ONE HOUSE THAT THE CHANNEL TOP OF THE CHANNEL BANK IS WITHIN PROBABLY FIVE OR SIX FEET OF THEIR PATIO. IT'S A PROJECT THAT THE COUNTY STARTED BACK IN THE 90'S, RAN OUT OF MONEY AND BASICALLY JUST QUIT AND NEVER PURSUED IT. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO INCREASE THE COST ON IT BECAUSE THERE WAS NO RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION IN THE ESTIMATES THAT HAD BEEN LEFT TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT. MOODY IS A SMALL PROJECT ON ROAD SIDE DITCHES AND SIDEWALK. IT'S A MATTER OF TRYING TO PIPE SOME OF THE DITCHES JUST TO MAKE THE SIDEWALK AREA A LITTLE BIT SAFER. THEN THE NEXT FOUR PROJECTS ARE AS MITT CONGRATULATIONS GRANTS. THOSE ARE THE MONEYS FOR THE ENGINEERING STUDIES THAT WE'RE GETTING 70% OF THE MONEY FROM DEP AND FEMA AND THEN THE REST OF IT IS COMING OUT OF OUR BUDGET. THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC WORKS SECTION. ANY QUESTIONS FOR DALE? NOT AT THIS TIME. YOU CAN SEE EQUIPMENT. JUST NORMAL EXPENDITURE 500,000. HALF A MILLION FOR EACH YEAR. AND THEN REST REALLY IS BLANK AS WE PROCEED FORWARD WITH THE ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION AS NEEDED. SO GOING DOWN TO THE GRAND TOTAL IMPROVEMENTS, YOU CAN SEE YEAR OVER YEAR AND SLIGHT DECLINE BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED A LOT IN THE OUTER YEARS AND THROWED OUT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. THAT CONCLUDES A REVIEW OF BOTH A AND B, EXHIBITS A AND B IN THE BUDGET FOR CIP. AND JUST -- [INAUDIBLE] . >> THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IN TURNOVERS PROCEDURALLY, COMING UP AT THE NEXT MEETING WE'RE GOING TO TRUE UP THE BUDGET FOR 1-20 OR ARE WE LOOKING AT MOVE AGO HEAD IN TERMS OF APPROVING A FOUR OR FIVE YEAR PLAN AS YOU HAVE IT LAID OUT HERE? >> I THINK I'D LIKE TO BREAK IT UP INTO TWO PARTS FOR THE NEXT BOARD MEETING AND I'M LOOKING AT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY RIGHT NOW IF THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE. STATUTE WISE, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO DO IT THAT WAY OR DO I HAVE TO GO OUT THE NEXT FIVE YEARS? >> YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE WHOLE FIVE. >> BUT WE CAN DO THE TRUE UP FOR THE CURRENT YEAR CORRECT AS PART A AND PART B WOULD BE OUT THE NEXT FIVE. >> WITH THE UNDERSTANDING WE CAN CHANGE THAT ON A YEAR TO YEAR BASIS THOUGH RIGHT IF WE SEE WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS OR WE HAVE A NEW PRIORITY THAT JUMPS UP? >> RIGHT. BUT YOUR EXHIBIT HAS TO INCLUDE THE FULL FIVE. >> OK. >> DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION MR. CHAIRMAN SPARTANBURG. >> YES. >> YES. [01:15:03] >> ANTICIPATING NEXT TUESDAY'S MEETING AND THE HEARING, I WOULD SAY THIS WE'LL JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT HAS BEEN BRIEFED. I WOULD JUST ADD A CAVEAT IF I COULD, ANY OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS OR ITEMS WE HAVE FOR INSTANCE 784 WHICH IS INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT MINOR CAPACITY, I'D LIKE TO FLOW THAT OUT INTO THE FIFTH YEAR. ANY OF THE BRIDGE IMPROVEMENTS IF THAT IS NEEDED TO FLOW OUT, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO. THAT RESURFACING ON 27 AND 6005 ROAD PAVING I'D LIKE TO FLOW THAT OUT TO THE FIFTH YEAR IF THAT IS ACCEPTABLE. THAT WILL ROUND OUT THE WHOLE FIVE YEARS. WE'LL SEE WHAT THE AMOUNT IS AND WE CAN GO FORWARD FROM THERE. >> THAT IS YEAR 2023-24 RIGHT? >> YES, SIR. >> WOULDN'T YOU HAVE TO -- I% UNDERSTAND THE FLOWING SOME OF THOSE THINGS OUT. AREN'T WE GOING TO HAVE TO COME ONE OTHER NUMBERS FOR THESE PROJECTS TO PLUG IN TO FLOW OUT TO 2023-24. THAT'S OUT IN KNOT ALL THE MONEY WE'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING. >> OVER TO YOU ON THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANY ANTICIPATION ON PROJECTS OUT INTO THAT FIFTH YEAR THAT WOULD BE ADDED. >> FOR THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, WHAT WE HAVE ANTICIPATED USING THEM FOR ARE I'VE BEEN TOLD I THINK TECHNICALLY I WAS HAVING A BIT OF A PROBLEM. IS FOR SOME OF THE INTERSECTION , THE SIGNALS THAT WE HAVE, A LOT OF THEM HAVE OUT LIVED THEIR USEFUL LIFE EXPECTANCY AND WE NEED TO START REBUILDING THE SIGNALS THAT THE COUNTY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR AND THEREFORE TURN LANES AND OTHER THINGS TO STOP SOME OF THE CONGESTION MAINLY AROUND SOME OF THE SCHOOLS LIKE THUNDER BOLT AND LOOKING AT TIMES AND SOME OF THOSE SCHOOLS WHEN WE HAVE MESS AND TRAFFIC JAMS BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE PARKING ON THE STREET DURING THE SCHOOL TIME. THAT IS WHY THAT MONEY WAS PUT IN THERE SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THOSE ANTICIPATED NEEDS. LIFE EXPECTANCY OF TEN YEARS AND WE'RE BEHIND AND WE NEED TO BRING THOSE BASICALLY UP TO CURRENT STANDARDS. >> FLOW OUT INTO THE FIFTH YEAR, DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT FAR SH. >> I CAN'T, NOT AT THIS POINT. >> I THINK THAT ANSWERS A LITTLE BIT. ANY CONCERNS FOR THAT FIFTH YEAR THAT YOU WOULD HAVE AND YOU'D LIKE TO PUT SOMETHING ON? >> FROM AN ORDINANCE PERSPECTIVE FOR THE C.I.A. I WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT THINKING ABOUT NEW PROJECTS TO PUT IN HERE BECAUSE WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE THE OPPOSITE PROBLEM. >> SOME OF THESE LIKE DALE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE INTERN SECTION IMPROVEMENT CAPACITY, YOU CAN FLOW OUT THE BRIDGE IMPROVEMENT AND ROAD RESURFACING OR ROAD PAVING TO THOSE SAME NUMBERS. THE REST OF THEM OBVIOUSLY YOU JUST I GUESS WOULD LEAVE BLANK AND THEN WE WOULD SHOW ADDITIONAL MONEYS AVAILABLE FOR PROJECTS IN THAT FIFTH YEAR RIGHT. >> AS LONG AS YOUR PLAN IS IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A PROJECT. >> RIGHT. JUST SHOWS THAT WE'RE NOT OVERSPENDING IN YEAR FIVE BASED ON THE TRAJECTORY WE HAVE AT THIS CURRENT TIME. >> OR BITING OFF TOO MUCH OR MORE THAN YOU CAN CHEW. [2.  Discussion of Road Paving Projects (Dale Smith)] [01:20:04] >> IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO MAYBE. >> SO AGAIN I THINK MOVING AND THINKING AHEAD TO NEXT TUESDAY , THIS IS WHAT WILL BE BRIEFED AND WE'LL ADD OTHER TWO LINES TO FLOW OUT ON IT. AND SHE'LL DO THAT AND WE'LL GO FORWARD FROM THERE AND I'LL PRESENT IT TO THE BOARD. >> I ASKEDDALE TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON RESURFACING AND PAVING. AND SO I'LL TURN THE FLOOR OVER THE YOU AND YOU CAN BRIEF THE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE PACKET. >> WHAT YOU SHOULD SEE ON THE SCREEN IS A SMALL CROP OF THE THOUSAND ROAD RESURFACING LIST. YOU CAN'T SEE IT YET? >> NOT YET. >> I HIT SHARE. THAT'S WRONG ONE. I DON'T HAVE IT NAMED. WE'RE GOING TO TRY SHARE. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO TALK FROM. >> TOGETHER FLOOR IS YOURS. >> IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THIS CHART , THE ROADS THAT ARE IN GRAY ARE THE ROADS THAT WERE ACTUALLY FROM THE PREVIOUS YEARS RESURFACING BUT HAD THE UNDERDRAIN WORK THAT WE NEEDED IN THERE. IF YOU'LL FORGIVE MY ONE MISTAKE I REPEATED ONE LINE TWICE. THESE PROJECTS ARE COMPLETELY FINISHED. ALL THE UNDERDRAIN AND RESURFACING THAT GOES WITH THEM. WHAT WE SPENT ON BOTTOM RIDGE WAS A LITTLE OVER $700,000 WHICH CAME OUT OF OUR RESURFACING. THE NEXT BAND OF COLOR , THE GREEN ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE COMPLETE AS OF TODAY. AND THE NEXT LIST BELOW THAT IS THE ONES I HAVE PURCHASE ORDERS WE'LL START ON IN MAY AND FINISH THOSE UP. THE UNDERDRAIN PROJECT ONS THIS YEAR'S LIST I HAVE TO GET THE UNDERDRAIN DESIGN, DO ALL THE UTILITY COORDINATION AND GET QUOTES FOR ALL OF THAT. IT'S NOT JUST USING MY RESURFACING CONTRACTOR. THAT IS ENDING UP LAST YEAR'S LIST AND ALL OF THIS YEAR EASTLINGS. >> TOTALLY THEY WILL TAKE PROBABLY ABOUT 8 MONTHS TO DESIGN. WHAT I ASKED MY CONSULTANT TO DO, WE USED OUR STORM DRAIN CONTRACTORS TO DO IT. [01:25:03] I ASKED THEM TO DO THEM NULL PROBABLY A YEAR TO A YEAR AND A HALF OUT TO A YEAR OUT. >> THE GREENS FINISHED , THE BLUE IS THERE ARE PURCHASE OFFENDERRERS. WE WILL START BACK UP THE END OF MAY AND CONTINUE WITH THE BLUE UNTIL WE GET THEM FINISHED AND HAVE TO WAIT ON THE YELLOW TO DO THE UNDERDRAIN DESIGN WHICH IS A LOT OF UTILITY COORDINATION. WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO BE FINISHED WITH BOTTOM RIDGE AFTER A YEAR AND A HALF OF CONSTRUCTION. >> AND SO THOSE ADD UP TO 450-500,000S THAT TOTAL COST OR ADDITIONAL COST BASENED THE DESIGN? >> BASEND TO UNDERDRAIN , THE RESURFACING IS ABOUT A THIRD OF THE COST. THE UNDERDRAIN AND OTHER WORK IS ABOUT TWO THIRDS. YOU CAN TAKE THAT AND MULTIPLY BY THREE AND THAT'S WHAT THE COST OF THOSE FOUR PROJECTS WILL BE. THE QUESTION DID WE GIVE YOU ENOUGH TO GET THROUGH THIS YEAR 6.6. THAT I'LL HAVE TO TELL YOU IN A FEW MONTHS. >> BASED ON WHAT YOU GET FOR BID. >> AND WHAT I GET FOR BIDS. BOTTOM RIDGE WAS EXTREMELY COMPLICATED BECAUSE WE HAD A DEVELOPMENT THAT ONLY HAD DRAINAGE ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND SPILLAGE ON THE OTHER. WHILE I WAS FIXING THE UNDERDRAIN AND RESURFACING WE FIX AID LOT OF THAT TO MAKE IT A BETTER ROAD. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THE ROAD INFORMS TERRIBLE CONDITION. WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IN THE GRAY, GREEN, WHETHER YOU AND YELLOW, AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T TELL ME SPECIFICALLY YELLOW ALTHOUGH IT ADDS UP TO 450,000. WHERE DO WE STAND FOR THE MONEYS SET ASIDE FOR THIS YEAR IN TERMS OF PAVING AND HOW MUCH MORE DO WE HAVE TO SPEND. >> I NEED GET AN EXPENSE BALANCE. >> THIS WAS OUR DIRT ROAD PAVING LIST. YOU'VE SEEN IT YEAR AFTER YEAR. WE ADD PROJECTS TO IT AND REEVALUATE THEM. WE JUST FINISHED UP INDIGO AND WE'RE STARTING THE DESIGN ON DEER TRAIL. I HAVE QUOTE FOR SURVEY WORK AND THE GEO TECH AND I'M USING AN EMBEDDED ENGINEERING STAFF FROM A CONSULTANT TO DO THE DESIGN WORK. I'M TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE UNDER A MILE. I SHOULD HAVE THE MONEY THIS COMING BUDGET YEAR TO BUILD PROJECT. [01:30:07] THE ONE PROJECT ON HERE THAT YOU HAVE PROBABLY HEARD THE MOST ABOUT IS LIVE OAK LANE. THAT IS ABOUT HALF WAY DOWN THE LIST. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE FOUR STREET DEPARTMENT AND HAVE COME TO A WORKING AGREEMENT WHERE THEY WOULD PAY FOR THE LIME ROCK IF WE WOULD INSTALL IT. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE AMOUNT OF LIME ROCK WE NEED AND TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY OTHER WORK WE NEED TO DO IT AND WE WILL GIVE THEM QUANTITIES OF LIME ROCK AND INTO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT THEY WILL PUT THE LIME -- THEY WILL BUY THE LIME ROCK AND WE'LL PUT IT DOWN AND PROBABLY PUT AN ASPHALT SEAL OF AT LEAST AN INCH. WE MOVE THAT UP AND IN TERMS OF MOVING THAT UP. WE'LL NEED TO APPROPRIATE ADDITIONAL MONEYS TO DO THAT? THEY WILL GIVE US THE LIME ROCK. I'LL BILL IT WITH MY STAFF. I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT MY ASPHALT BUDGET. I CAN SPLIT MY ASPHALT COST AND LOOK AT IT OUT OF MAINTENANCE. IS THE I DON'T HAVE ENOPHILE TO ASK TO TRANSFER MONEY INTO THE ACCOUNT THAT I BUY LIME ROCK, ASPHALT AND OTHER MATERIALS FROM. IT WOULDN'T COME OUT OF THE SAME FUNDING SOURCE BUT WE WOULD END UP WITH A PAVED ROAD FOR JUST IS THE COST OF LABOR AND A ONE INCH CAP ON THAT. >> I WOULD HATE TO SEE US USE ALL OF THE MONEYS LIKE FOR EXAMPLE YOUR ASPHALT BUDGET AND NOT BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IF WE HAVE NO MONEY THERE. WHEN YOU ARE WORKING THE NUMBERS UP, YOU ARE GOING TO WORK ON, THAT WOULD YOU WORK UP THE NUMBERS FOR WHAT THAT ASPHALT CAP WOULD BE. >> ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. I GUESS WE'RE DONE WITH THAT AGENDA ITEM. EACH DISTRICT AND MOVING FORWARD IN THAT AREA, DID YOU WANT TO AIR THAT AND? >> AND I THINK FOR EACH DISTRICT WE COULD MAINTAIN RANKS THAT WE HAVE AND THE CONDITIONS AND DALE CAN BRIEF SPECIFIC ONS THOUSAND NUMBERS ARE OBTAINED. THE OVERALL CONDITIONS OF THE ROADS. AND LOOKING AT THIS WE CAN RACK AND STACK FOR EACH DISTRICT WHICH WOULD ALLOW A MORE CONCERTED EFFORT TO FOCUS ON EACH DISTRICT ON RANKING FROM 1-1,000. DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT? WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IF WE MODIFY BUDGET IN A WAY TO TAKE CARE OF THE ROADS AS THERE IS ENTRY INTO THE COUNTY TO PAY [01:35:03] SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THOSE. >> AND MY COMMENT WAS LOOKING AT THE GATE GATEWAY ROAD. MOST OF THEM ARE NEWER AND HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC. THEIR DESIGN LIFE IS NOT THE 20-25 YEARS OF A NORMAL SUBDIVISION ROAD. WE'VE ALL HEARD THE COMPLAINTS. THOSE ROADS NEED TO BE RESURFACED. WE'RE STILL IN THE THIRTIES IN OUR RANKING. WHAT I HAD ACTUALLY MENTIONED TO SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WAS TO LOOK AT SET AGO SIDE MONEY FOR THE GATEWAY ROADS AND STILL HAVE A RATING BUT A RATING PER DISTRICT. SO YOU HAVE AN ORGANIZED WAY OF DOING RESURFACING IN EACH AND EVERY DISTRICT. QUESTION LOOK AT THE WORST ONES FIRST. JUST LOOK AT THE LIST THAT WE HAVE, IT'S PROBABLY CLOSER TO TEN YEARS BEFORE WE WORK OUR WAY UP. INTO THE LOW 50'S. >> OK. >> I LIKE THAT IDEA. I THINK WE NEED TO IDEA THE GATEWAY ROADS. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO CHANGE THE RATINGS EVEN FOR DISTRICT BY DISTRICT LOOK AT ROAD. YOU COULD CONTINUE THAT RATING. AS YOU DID FOR US LAST YEAR YOU BROKE THOSE OUT BY DISTRICT AND WE COULD USE THAT IN THAT FASHION. THERE ARE THOUGHTS WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO REDO THE WORK ALL OVER AGAIN. >> I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK WE'VE HAD PROBABLY FIVE @OR SIX REQUEST. I WOULD EVALUATE THOSE AND SEE WHERE THEY FALL IN THIS. WHEN WE GET A REQUEST FOR RESURFACINGS. EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A LONG LIST, WE GET REQUESTS. WE OPEN A REQUEST IN OUR SYSTEM. WE HAVE A SPREAD SHEET. THE OBJECT IS TO DO THE WORST ROAD FIRST. WE'D BREAK IT OUT BY DISTRICT. THAT IS MOVED OVER ON A DISTRICT LEVEL RATHER THAN COUNTY LEVEL. >> I WENT AHEAD AND BROUGHT UP AND SHARED MY SCREEN. ON THE 181 RESURFACING LIST, MAYBE DALE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT. OR IF THERE IS A QUESTION ON THAT. WHAT YOU SEE THE RED LINE WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON. THAT COMES OFF THE LIST AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR'S LIST WOULD START WITH MY MONTHS SA AND THEN CARRY ON. THE ONES IN YELLOW HAVE UNDERDRAIN WITH THIS. IF WE DO ABOUT THE SAME NUMBER NEXT YEAR WE HAVE SIX ROADS WE'D HAVE TO ADDRESS AN UNDER DRAIN ISSUE IN. >> I KNOW HA WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING A PILOT STUDY OF SOME WHERE ARE WE AT ON THAT. I KNOW THEY HAVE DONE THE WRITING. I'LL HAVE TO GET WITH ADD. I CHANGED THAT IRROUTES SO THEY WOULD GO OVER SOME OF THE ROADS I'VE EVALUATED SO WE COULD LOOK AT WHAT THE CAMERA RANKS THE ROADS AT COMPARED TO WHAT WE RANK THEM AT. HOPEFULLY THEY WILL BE CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER. THE COST OF DRIVING IS MINIMAL. IT'S THE COST PER MILE TO TAKE ALL THE DATA THAT THE CAMERA COLLECTS AND THEN TURN IT INTO A USABLE FORMAT. [01:40:22] SOME OF THEM PUT THEM ON THE GARBAGE TRUCK. THEY DIRECT ALL THE DATA. IT'S WHEN YOU SENT IT TO THE COMPANY TO PROCESS IT, THAT'S WHAT THE COST START ACCUMULATING. THEY WERE GOING ALLOW US TO USE THE EQUIPMENT? THEY GOT A CONSULT TONIGHT COME ONE A PLAN. FROM THAT RATING THEY WOULD HELP YOU DEVELOP A PLAN. I MODIFIED THE ROADS SO WE COULD SEE HOW THEIR TECHNOLOGY COMPARES TO THE HUMAN TECHNOLOGY AWE HAVE. AND WHAT I'VE ALSO GIVEN THEM IS A COPY OF THE SPREAD SHEET AND THEY ARE GOING TO PUT ALL OF THIS INTO A DATA BASE. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEIR PROJECT END. I'LL GET WITH ED. IT A MATTER OF PROCESSING THE DATA NOW. >> I THINK THEIR PILOT WAS TO RATE 20 OR 30 MILES OF ROADWAYS. I CHANGED THEIR PATHS SO THEY WOULD GO OVER THE ROAD I RATED. >> I THINK CONTRACT WAS FOR 14,000. >> 14,000 MILES? >> NO. $14,000 FOR 30 MILES. WHATEVER THE NUMBER OF MILES WAS. I WAS NOT SURE ABOUT THIS NUMBER. >> AND I THINK IT WAS 30. ED HAS THE DETAILS ON IT. >> I'VE SAT DOWN WITH HIM , THE TECHNOLOGY LOOKS GOOD. WHEN THEY DID THE STUDY 10 OR 11 YEARS AGO THEY USED A SIMILAR SYSTEM. I'M SURE TECHNOLOGY HAS CHANGE AID LOT IN TEN OR 12 YEARS. THERE WAS A STUDY THAT WAS DONE LIKE THIS AND THEY RANKED MOST OF THE ROADS IN THE COUNTY AND WHEN I STARTED RANKING ROADS, THAT WAS SORT OF THE FIRST YARDSTICK THAT I COMPARED MY VISUAL RANKING WITH WHAT BASICALLY ANOTHER ENGINEERING FIRM CAME UP WITH. PERCENTAGE WISE I WAS CLOSE TO THEIR RANKINGS. THERE IS A CONSISTENCY IN THE SIX AREAS THAT WE EVALUATE THE ROADS WITH. >> I HAVE NO PROBLEM AT LEAST RUNNING THE NEW THOUGHT PROCESS IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO EVALUATE THE ROADS AND TAKE MONEYS AND APORTION IT TO EACH DISTRICT. I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I THINK RESIDENTS WOULD UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT EASYINGLY TERMS OF THE RATING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. I HAVE GOTTEN CALLS RECENTLY AND PART OF THE CONFUSION IS WHEN WE GO INTO A SUBDIVISION, THEY THINK ONCE WE'RE THERE WE'RE GOING REDO THE WHOLE THING. NO IT'S PRIMARILY THE ROADS MOST TRAVELLED. YOU MEAN CUL-DE-SACS NEVER GET RESURFACE. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY NEVER BUT THEY ARE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST. >> IT WOULD BE EASY EYER TO HAVE IT WHERE I COULD SAY THESE ARE THE ROADS IN MY DISTRICT. >> THE ROADS THAT ARE HEAVILY TRAVELLED ROADS AND WHEREVER THEY MAY BE IN THE COUNTY. >> I GUESS WE'LL BRING THAT TO THE FULL BOARD AND SEE WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THAT AS WE GO THROUGH BUDGET PROCESS OR DO IT SOONER OR LATER. >> WE'LL BRING IT UP NEXT TUESDAY. [01:45:02] >> I'D LIKE THE CONCLUDE ITEM NUMBER 2. DALE PASSED OUT THE PROJECT UPDATE THERE. IF THERE ARE ANY OVERALL PROJECTS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAD WE COULD ASK DALE. AND THEN MOVE NEXT. ANY OVERALL QUESTIONS FOR DALE ON PROJECTS? >> I QUESTIONS GUEST TRIPLE R PROJECTS ARE THE BIG ONES WE'RE WORKING ON OUTSIDE OF THE BONDED ROADS. AND I GUESS WE'LL MOVE FORWARD NOW WITH DESIGN WORK DALE S THAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ESTABLISH NEXT IS THE DESIGN WORK ON THOSE TRIPLE R'S AND MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE? >> THAT'S CORRECT. THEY'LL COME TO THE BOARD THIS NEXT BOARD MEETING TO APPROVE THE CONTRACTS. I'LL GIVE THEM NOTICE TO PROCEED. FULL DESIGN FOR COUNTY ROAD 220 AND PHASE ONE FOR COLLEGE. AT THE END OF PHASE ONE WE'LL KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO BASICALLY FINISH IT ONE THE FINAL DESIGN. I'LL BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE MAN HOURS BETTER KNOWING WHAT THE GOING TO BE REPLACED AND HOW IT'S GOING TO BE REPLACED. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT. >> I'LL PULL UP MY SLIDES. [3.  Project Updates (James Householder)] AND WE CAN GO OVER ITEM NUMBER 3. >> AFTER SAID BUILDING IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION THE CONTRACTOR HAD THE FOOTINGS MOVING WE HAD TO TAKE A PAUSE FOR ELEVATION ISSUES. WE'LL SCHEDULE A POUR FOR THE SLAB. WE'RE LOOKING GOOD FOR A COMPLETION DATE THIS FALL. THE GUY WITH THE CONTRACT IS GOING GIVE US A PROPOSAL BY THE END OF THE WEEK. >> WE HAVE THE SIGNED WORK ORDER AND AGREEMENT TO CLOSE THAT OUT. WE'LL GET THAT SIGNED THIS WEEKEND AND SUBMIT THE FINAL PAY APPLICATIONS. >> WHERE IT SAYS FAIRGROUNDS [01:50:03] MASTER PLAN. THE TWO PROJECTS WE'RE TRACKING THERE ARE ADDITION TO THE EXHIBIT BUILDING FROM A STATE GRANT. AND THE FAIRGROUNDS UTILITIES PUTTING THAT ON A WATER SURFACE. BOTH OF THOSE WORK ORDER VERSE BEEN SIGNED WE'LL GET THE ENGINEERS SIGN THEM AND REQUEST THE PO. THAT IS FOR THE UTILITIES AND ADDITION. WE WERE WORKING ON ONE FOR LAKESHORE. WE SET THAT ASIDE TO GET KNIGHTS BOAT RAMP MOVING WITH THE ENGINEER. NOW THAT IS MOVING WE CAN GO BACK AND PICK UP THE KAYAK LAUNCH. GUN RANGE SAME THING WORK ORDER HAS BEEN SIGNED. GET A PO AND GET DESIGN STARTED. LOOKING AT FOUR MONTHS FOR THE TOTAL SWINE AND WE'LL GET THAT OUT TO BID. KNIGHTS IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. CONTRACTORS IS ON TRACK THERE. THEY ARE PULLING UP OLD STRUCTURE. I THINK WE'LL COMPLETE THAT IN AUGUST ST. LAST ONE. ONE TIME WE DISCUSSED MOVING FORWARD WITH A BID PACKAGE. WE HAVE YET TO FIRMLY NAIL DOWN THE FUND FOR THAT. ONE IS DEMOLITION OF THE PEER. THE OPPORTUNITY IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD GIVE A BETTER LAUNCH AND SMALL DOCKAGE AROUND THAT TO DO IT. THEN WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A POSSIBILITY OF OFFSETTING SOME OF THE COST OF STATION 20 WITH THAT. I THINK INITIAL COST FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT WAS IN THE $6 MILLION RANGE. AM I CLOSE? >> YES, SIR. >> AND SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN BEING ABLE TO. THE FIRE STATION PROJECT APPEARS TO BE AN EASY ONE THAT WE COULD MAYBE OFFSET AND THAT WOULD FREE UP ADDITIONAL COST INTO THE CIP IF WE'RE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. WE'RE WORKING WITH FEMA ON THAT RIGHT NOW. >> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. RATHER THAN REBUILDING THE PIER, WE WOULD TAKE THOSE MONEYS AND APPLY TO IN THIS CASE FIRE STATION SOMETHING THAT FEMA WOULD APPROVE IN TERMS OF WHERE WE COULD SEND THAT MONEY. SOMEONE TO IMPROVE A BOAT LAUNCH AND PUT A SMALL DOCK AREA THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO TIE UP TO AS THEY LAUNCH AND RETRIEVE BOATS. BUT THAT WOULD REMOVE THAT HAZARDOUS PART OF THE PEER. YOU ARE GOING TO GET AN ADDITIONAL PEER AS THE BRIDGE IS DEMOLISHED WHICH GIVES YOU A REPLACEMENT OPPORTUNITY THERE AS THE NEW BRIDGE GOES IN. >> THAT MONEY WAS BASED ON WHETHER WE REBUILT THE ENTIRE THING. THAT GAVE US THE MONEY THEY WOULD HAVE COVERED. WE DON'T WANT TO REBUILD ON THAT SITE BASED ON NOT BACK TO WHAT IT WAS BASEND TO FACT WE'RE GOING TO GET THE OLD BRIDGE. OUR LOOK IS TO SECURE SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN TO REMOVE ALL OF THAT STRUCTURE OUT THERE. WE ARE WORKING TO COME UP WITH A FINAL CONCLUSION WITH THAT. WE HAVE TO SECURE THE LAND TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. THEY HAVE TO REVIEW THAT AND SAY THAT THE SITE WE'RE LOOKING AT IS SUFFICIENT FOR FEMA. TO COME ONE THE FUNDS FOR THEAV- [01:55:02] REMOVAL. WE HAVE TO NAUGHT UP FRONT. >> THE COST OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT WOULD HAVE TO BE FUND AND THEY WOULD REIMBURSE. >> THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. >> WE WOULD HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD AND BUILD A FIRE STATION AND THEN SUBMIT THOSE COST AND THEY WOULD REIMBURSE US IF THAT'S THE PLAN. >> AND DEMOLL TISSUE PEER AND PLACE THAT NEW LAUNCH IN AND SMALL DOCK. >> GOT YOU. >> ONE THING WE WOULD NEED TO DO MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE DOWN FIRM IS THE DEMOLITION MONEY. THE FIRE STATION PROJECT HAS MONEY INSIDE TABLES TO SUPPORT IT. AS THE CHAIR POINTED OUT. THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR STATE FUNDING TO THERE THANKSGIVING. I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE OUT OF THE CIP THE MONEY TO DEMOLISH THE PEER AND REPLACE THE SMALL DOCKAGE ON THE RAMP AREA. FY QUESTIONS ON ANY OTHER PROJECTS AT THIS TIME IN. >> THE PROJECT THAT IS IN MOTION AT THIS TIME AS WELL. >> YES, SIR. WE DID RECEIVE TWO WORK ORDERS. WE RECEIVED FOUR, TWO OF THOSE WERE THE COURTHOUSE. ONE FOR THE ROOF THAT WAS A SEPARATE LINE AND GRANT AND ANOTHER FOR EXTERIOR. BOTH OF THOSE HAVE BEEN SIGNED AT OUR LEVEL THIS WEEK AND WE'LL GET THE ARCHITECT ENGINEER TO SIGN OFF ON THEM AND THE PO'S WILL BE REQUESTED AND WE CAN TURN HIM TO GETTING STARTED WITH THE DESIGNS. >> OK. >> ANY CHANCE WE GET THAT DONE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR OR NO? >> I'M LOOKING AT THE TABLE RIGHT NOW WITHIN THE WORK ORDERS WE'RE GIVING THEM IN SOME CASES 12-18 WEEKS FOR SOME OF THESE DESIGNS. THAT WAS STANDARD BASED ON THEY WERE WORKING ON FOUR OR FIVE OF THEM AT A TIME FOR US. THAT PUTS US RIGHT OUT TOWARD THE END OF THE YEAR. WE'LL HAVE TO REQUEST AN EXTENSION ON SOME OF THESE, BUT I'M CONFIDENT IF WE HAVE IT OUT TO BID WE'LL BE OK WITH THE EXTENSION REQUEST. THESE WILL CARRY IN FOR CONSTRUCTION IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. >> OK. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> I'M GOOD THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU JAMES. >> ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO COVER? WE JUST ANTICIPATE BRINGING SUBMITLES TO FINANCE AND AUDIT MAYBE MID JUNE BETWEEN MID JUNE, MID JULY IN THAT TIME FRAME. JUST TO GIVE AN IDEA ACROSS THE BOARD AND KEEP US ON TRACK FOR THE BONDING PROJECTS ALSO. >> OK. >> AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR THE COMMITTEE. >> ALL RIGHT. >> DO YOU ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> A COUPLE OF THINGS BECAUSE IT'S TOP OF MIND. I DON'T KNOW IF DALE STILL ON THE LINE. I GOT A CALL FROM A RESIDENT IN THE MIDDLE BURGER AND THE CONSTRUCTION THAT DOT IS DOING IN FRONT OF ON LANDING IN FRONT OF FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH ON MIDDLEBURG THE QUESTION WAS IS DOT GOING TO CHANGE ANY OF THE TRANCES INTO THE CHURCH PROPERTY? IF DALE COULD CHECK ON THAT FOR ME. >> THERE IS A LIGHT OR A PROPOSED LIGHT? >> I THOUGHT THAT WAS PART OF THAT PLAN THE DOT WAS PUTTING [02:00:02] THE LIGHT THERE. >> I'LL REVIEW THE PLANS TOMORROW. >> DO YOU WANT KNOW GET BACK WITH YOU SO YOU CAN GET BACK WITH THE CITIZEN? >> YES, SIR, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> THANK YOU. >> AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAVE IS I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUTOUT TO OUR COUNTY MANAGER AND HIS LEADERSHIP AND GETTING OUR PROPS LOOKING NICER AND SAFER WHICH IS MORE IMPORTANT. HAVING BEEN A RESIDENT FOR GREEN CO-SPRINGS FOR MANY YEARS, THEY CARE ABOUT THIS. FOR TO US SPRUCE UP A LITTLE BIT I'M SURE MAKES THE CITY PROUDER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I SMILE EVERY TIME I DRIVE BY. THANK YOU. >> YES, MA'AM. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> THAT PUTS AN END TO THIS MEETING. THANK YOU ALL. WE APPRECIATE THE TIME AND WE'LL TALK TO YOU AGAIN VERY SOON. WE HAVE A FULL BOARD MEETING COMING UP NEXT TUESDAY. I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO DO IT * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.