[CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:11] >>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. SEATS, PLEASE. THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING FOR APRIL 14TH IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER AND WE WILL GO DIRECTLY INTO OUR AGENDA. [Resolution Authorizing Virtual Government in the Sunshine Meetings Through the Use of Communications Media Technology during the COVID-19 Statewide Declared State of Emergency] THE FIRST ITEM IS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE VIRTUAL GOVERNMENT IN THE SUNSHINE MEETING THROUGH THE USE OF COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY DURING THE COVID-19 EMERGENCY. IS THERE A MOTION FOR THE RESOLUTION? >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND, DIANE. >> AND JUST FOR INFORMATION WE'LL BE TAKEN BE ROLL CALL. SO BASED ON PROCEEDING MOTION AND SECOND I WILL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLL FOR THE PLEASURE OF THE BOLD. COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINS. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA? >> AYE. >> AND COMMISSIONER HENDRY IS ALSO AN AYE. IT'S UNANIMOUS WE WILL MOVE INTO THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] FEBRUARY 25TH AND MARCH 10. IS THERE A MOTION BY THE BOARD? >> MR. CHAIR. >> YES? >> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 25TH. I'VE ALREADY INFORMED ABOUT ONE OF THESE CHANGES ON PAGE SIX, PUBLIC COMMENTS WE DIDN'T HAVE THE LAST NAME OF ONE OF THE SPEAKERS. I BELIEVE SHE'S GOT THAT NOW. AND ALSO UNDER LETTERS FOR ACTION IT REFERS TO CHAIRMAN ROLLINS AND ALTHOUGH AS MUCH AS WE ENJOYED OUR TENURE UNDER CHAIRMAN ROLLINS I THINK IT SHOULD BE CHAIRMAN HENDRY. >> I AGREE. >> ALL RIGHT, SO THE CORRECTIONS HAVE BEEN REPORTED TO OUR SECRETARY. IS THAT CORRECT? >> AS OF THIS MOMENT, YES. >> I ASSURE YOU IT WASN'T A COUP ATTEMPT, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> ALL RIGHT, SINCE YOU HAD THE CORRECTIONS, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? >> SO MOVED AS AMENDED. >> AND A SECOND. >> SECOND. >> SECOND, VERY GOOD. ROLL CALL VOTE, COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINS. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> AYE. >> AND COMMISSIONER HENDRY IS ALSO AN AYE. MOVING INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME, BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THE INFORMATION OF THE GOOD FOLKS AND THE BOARD, JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT ITEMS 24 AND 25 HAVE BEEN PULLED FROM THE AGENDA TONIGHT SO WE WILL NOT BE CONSIDERING THEM TONIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANYONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE OPENING TIME? >> WE HAVE RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. >> NO PUBLIC COMMENTS, VERY GOOD. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS SECTION. AND MOVE INTO ITEMS FOR [ITEMS FOR RATIFICATION - Processed under Local State of Emergency, Executive Order COVID-19] RATIFICATION AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN PROCESSED UNDER LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY. THOSE ITEMS INCLUDE NUMBERS 3 THROUGH 16. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PART OF THE COMMISSION BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE APPROVAL OF THOSE? >> MR. CHAIR, GO AHEAD DIANE. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> NO QUESTIONS. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAD A QUESTION ON ITEM NUMBER 15, THE 1.5 MILLION FOR THE ANIMAL SERVICES SHELTER. WE'RE REQUIRING A 50% MATCH, I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE IN TERMS OF IMPROVEMENTS. >> IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S A COMPLETE NEW LOCATION AND BUILDING. IS THAT YOUR QUESTION? >> SO COMMISSIONER CELLA, I THINK I CAN CLARIFY THE GRANT APPLICATION WHEN IT WAS BEING SUBMITTED IT WAS FOR $750,000 AND THEN IT REQUIRED THE MATCH. AND IT WAS FOR THE DESIGN WORK IN CONNECTION WITH IT. >> DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE SCOPE OF HOW [00:05:02] BIG THIS FACILITY NEEDS TO BE AND WHAT BUSINESS WE THINK WE'RE IN WITH THIS ANIMAL STUFF. >> WE ACTUALLY HAD A CONSULTANT SOMETIME LAST YEAR COME IN AND DO A QUICK STUDY AND GAVE REFERENCE AND RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO BASED ON THE POPULATION AND WHAT WE DO THE ACTIVITY NOW AND INTO THE FUTURE. I'M COINED OF GOING ALONG THE LINES OF GIVING ANOTHER TRY OF DOING A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP OPERATION HERE WHERE THE COUNTY'S MISSION IN THIS ANIMAL CONTROL THING IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE ARE SAFE AND WHAT THAT MEANS TO ME IS THAT WE TAKE CARE OF THE BAD DOGS AND THE RABIES AND THE DISEASE KIND OF STUFF THAT HAPPENS. I THINK IT'S FOUR OFFICERS NOW THAT ARE DOING THAT JOB AND REPORTING UP THROUGH THE COUNTY MANAGER. MY CONCEPT OF THE GOOD SYSTEM HERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING LIKE RETURN THOSE POLICEMEN TYPE ACTIVITIES OVER TO THE SHERIFFS OFFICE AND WE PARTNER WITH AN OUTSIDE GROUP THAT HAS A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS TO TRY AND DEAL WITH THIS ADOPTION PART OF THIS BSINESS WHICH THE COUNTY SHOULDN'T BE IN IN MY OPINION. OUR JOB HERE IS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING OUR PEOPLE SAFE, NOT NECESSARILY TO BE ADOPTING OUT ANIMALS. THERE ARE OTHER OUTSIDE GROUPS THAT COULD DO THAT BETTER THAN THE COUNTY. AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO LOOK INTO THOSE POSSIBILITIES. I WAS CONCERNED WHEN I SAW THIS, I CALLED THE COUNTY MANAGER AND SAID WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE SPENDING $3 MILLION TO DO AND THEY'RE ASKING US TO COMMIT 1.5 MILLION HERE ESSENTIALLY BEFORE WE KNOW WHAT IT IS WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING WITH THIS THING AND GIVEN THAT HE ASSURED ME WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TO DECIDE TO TAKE THE GRANT. BUT BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME THE GRANT COMES IN IF IT DOES, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE TIME TO ANSWER SOME OF THESE OTHER QUESTIONS. WHEN I WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE I SUGGESTED IT BE DOUBLE THE AMOUNT WE'RE SPENDING ON THE TRAP AND RELEASE PROGRAM FOR THE FERAL CATS AND I WAS TOLD THAT THE PROGRAM DOESN'T REALLY WORK UNLESS WE GET 50% OF THE ANIMALS EVERY YEAR. AND THERE WAS NO WAY THAT MORE MONEY WAS GOING TO FIX THIS PROBLEM. SO IF THAT'S TRUE, WHAT ARE WE DOING OTHER THAN SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY. AND I DON'T GET IT. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF PLAN IN PLACE BEFORE WE GO AHEAD AND START SPENDING MONEY ON FACILITIES. AND MAYBE THAT LOOKS LIKE A WORKSHOP, I DON'T KNOW. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ON POINT AND THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER ITEMS THAT PROBABLY NEED TO BE CONSIDERED WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS NEW FACILITY. ONE IS THE ACTUAL ORDNANCES THEMSELVES. I'VE READ THEM A NUMBER OF TIMES AND SOME OF THEM ARE REALLY ANTIQUATED, A NUMBER OF THEM DON'T REALLY SPEAK TO THE ISSUE AND SOME OF THEM ARE JUST NOT SERVING US AS BEST AS THEY COULD. I THINK A BOTTOM TO TOP REVIEW OF NOT ONLY THE ORDNANCES BUT THE ITEMS YOU BROUGHT UP WOULD PROBABLY BE WELL TAKEN SO MAYBE A WORKSHOP, WE CAN GET OUR HEADS TOGETHER ON THAT AND STAFF AND SEE WHAT THE BEST SUGGESTION, THE BEST OUTCOME FOR THAT WOULD BE. BUT I TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM 15, YOU WANTED TO ASK OR ADDRESS? >> NO, OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT I THINK WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT. THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING THIS IN SORT OF RETROACTIVE. THE GRANT WAS DUE TO BE SUBMITTED ELECTRONICALLY APRIL 10TH. SO IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN WE'VE ALREADY APPLIED FOR THE GRANT BUT AS COMMISSIONER BOLLA HAS INDICATED WE HAVE TIME BETWEEN NOW AND WHENEVER THAT GRANT IF WE SHOULD EVEN GET THE GRANT TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS IN AND FORMULATE A GAME PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD ON IT. I THINK IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE NOT TO PURSUE THE GRANT. IF WE GET IT, THEN WE'LL HAVE A GAME PLAN BY THE TIME WE GET IT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT GOING TO BE HAPPENING TOMORROW. SO WE DO HAVE TIME TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THAT. >> AND I THINK WE'LL HAVE TIME TO ASK AND ANSWER ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS AND I SAID EARLY ON HERE I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO PINCLN OUR COUNTY FOR THEIR INPUT AND THEIR SUGGESTIONS. [00:10:03] THIS SHOULD BE A WE SHOULD ALL BE PULLING IN THE SAME DREGS ON THIS AND THE MORE QUESTIONS ASKED I THINK THE BETTER OFF WE ARE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ITEMS 1 THROUGH 16, IF NOT I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION. >> DIANE IS CALLING IN. >> DID SHE GET DISCONNECTED? >> SAYS SHE'S ON HOLD. >> SO WE LOST DIANE. >> LET'S HOLD FOR A SECOND. >> OKAY. WE'RE BRINGING IN OUR I.T. GURU SO EVERYONE JUST KIND OF REST. >> SHE TRIED TO CALL BACK IN BUT I THINK SHE DIRECTLY CALLED ME INSTEAD OF CALLING BACK INTO THE GROUP IF THAT HELPS, TROY. >> DIANE, ARE YOU BACK ON? >> I AM, SORRY ABOUT THAT. >> OKAY, THERE YOU ARE, MADAME. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AGAIN. >> MR. CHAIRMAN. >> YES? >> IF I COULD REAL QUICK, IF THERE IS A TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY BECAUSE OF BANDWIDTH, YOU CAN ALWAYS SHUT YOUR VIDEO OFF AND THEN THAT WILL KEEP YOU ONLINE. BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED TO COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS SHE WENT ON HOLD SO THAT MAY HAVE BEEN A BANDWIDTH PROBLEM OR SOMETHING. >> VERY GOOD. COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS, WERE YOU ABLE TO HEAR THE DISCUSSIONS IN REGARDS TO THE PARTICULAR ITEM THAT COMMISSIONER CELLA BROUGHT UP? >> YES, SIR. >> ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSIONS ON ITEMS 3 THROUGH 16? IF NOT THEN I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION TO ACCEPT. >> MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEMS 3 THROUGH 16. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL SECOND THAT. >> THERE IS A SECOND. OKAY. COMMISSIONER ROLLINS, YOUR VOTE, SIR? >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA? >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA? >> AYE. >> AND COMMISSIONER HENDRY VOTES AYE ALSO. [CONSENT AGENDA] MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, THAT WILL BE ITEM 17 THROUGH 22. IS THERE A COMMISSIONER THAT WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT AN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION OR IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT? >> I'LL MOVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 17 THROUGH 22. >> SECOND. >> THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND. AND ON ROLL CALL COMMISSIONER ROLLINS? >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS? >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA? >> AYE. >> AND COMMISSIONER BOLLA? >> AYE. >> AND COMMISSIONER HENDRY VOTES AYE ALSO. THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO OLD BUSINESS. THE BONDING PROJECTS PLAN [23.  Bonding Projects- Plan Implementation (Dale Smith)] IMPLEMENTATION. DALE, I THINK YOU HAD SOME WORDS OF WISDOM YOU WANTED TO SHARE WITH US ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. >> YES, SIR, I DO. IS THE SLIDE UP? TROY, WERE YOU ABLE TO GET THE SLIDE UP FOR EVERYBODY TO VIEW? >> NOT YET. >> NOT YET. >> GOOD TO GO. >> AND I THINK I BRIEFED EVERYBODY. BUT -- EVERYBODY BUT COMMISSIONER ROLLINS ON THIS. THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED ON THESE BONDING PROJECTS IT'S BASICALLY A LITTLE BIT OF A HYBRID OF A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK, AN OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE AND A LITTLE BIT OF A TRADITIONAL WAY OF DOING [00:15:01] THINGS. I HAVE TALKED TO D.O.T. IN THE WAY THAT THEY DID STATE ROAD 23 WAS BY USING AN OWNER'S REP. BUT THEIR OWNER'S REP ACTUALLY DID SOME OF THE DESIGN WORK. ACTUALLY THEY SUB CONTRACTED OUT PORTIONS OF THE DESIGN WHERE WE'RE GOING TO USE AN OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE TO BASICALLY PROVIDE THE OVERALL MANAGEMENT, THE CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION, THE CEI AS THE PROJECTS GET BUILT AND THEN THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION IN HOUSE OR WITH SUB CONSULTANTS TO THEM. WE HAVE AN RFQ THAT IS READY TO GO OUT AT THE END OF THE WEEK FOR THIS OWNERS REPRESENTATIVE AND I THINK IT'S THE END OF MAY WHEN WE'LL HAVE THE RESPONSES BACK TO START GRADING THEM. AND WE'LL GET THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE ON AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO PUT OUT THREE RFQ'S FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES BECAUSE WE HAVE GROUND THESE PROJECTS INTO THREE GROUPS. THE ONE GROUP WHICH IS COUNTY ROAD 218 AND COUNTY ROAD 220, THAT WILL BE ONE GROUP. THE OTHER GROUP WILL BE SAM RIDGE AND THE 209 PROJECTS FROM SAM RIDGE TO 315B. AND FROM 315B OVER TO US-17. AND THE THIRD ONE WILL BE OUR FIRST COAST CONNECTER WHICH WILL BE THAT SECTION OF ROADWAY FROM THE BELTWAY, STATE ROAD 23 TO 315 AND THEN IT WILL BE A NEW ALIGNMENT OF 315 ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE EXISTING ALIGNMENT AT 315 AND 17 WHICH IS WHERE THE GAS STATION IS. SO WHAT WE WILL HAVE IS ONE ENGINEERING FIRM WILL DO TWO OF THE PROJECTS, ANOTHER ENGINEERING FIRM WILL DO THE SORT OF THREE IN THE MIDDLE AND THEN A THIRD ENGINEERING FIRM WILL DO THE FIRST COAST CONNECTER. WHEN THEY GET TO ABOUT 30% OF THE DESIGN STAGE, WE WILL BRING IN A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK, WE'LL BRING IN THREE OF THEM. ONE FOR EACH OF THE PROJECT GROUPS. AND WHAT THEY WILL DO IS THEY WILL WORK ALONGSIDE THE DESIGN TEAM AND THE OWNER'S REP AND AT THE 30% STAGE THERE WILL BE A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE SET. AND THEY WILL WORK THROUGH THE DESIGN OF THIS PROJECT THROUGH THE 60, 90, AND 100% REVIEW. THE CONTRACTOR WILL HAVE HIS INPUT ON THE PROJECT BASICALLY EXPLAINING TO THE DESIGNERS AND TO OUR OWNER'S REP IF THERE ARE ANY BETTER WAYS OF BUILDING THE PROJECT, EASIER WAYS, QUICKER WAYS THAT WILL REFINE THE ESTIMATES AT THE 100% STAGE IF THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK AND THE COUNTY BOTH AGREE, THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK WILL START THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT. AND THEN THE OWNER'S REP WILL PROVIDE THE CEI, THE UPDATE ON IT. NOW AS A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK WHAT WE ARE PAYING FOR ARE MATERIALS, EQUIPMENT, PEOPLE, WHAT THEY CALL GENERAL CONDITIONS WHICH IS THE NORMAL OVERHEAD AND THEN PLUS A GUARANTEED PROFIT. BUT THE OBJECT IS IS THAT EVERYBODY HAS AGREED TO THE COST AT THE END OF THE DESIGN PROCESS SO THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY CHANGES. IN A NUTSHELL I THINK YOU'VE GOT A TEN PAGE BRIEF IN YOUR PACKET. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THOSE OR NOT, BUT ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >> DALE, I DIDN'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I DO HAVE A COMMENT. I KNOW THAT YOU AND STAFF HAVE LOOKED THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT MODELS TILL WE WERE DOWN TO THIS ONE FINAL AND THE COUNTY MANAGER'S INPUT. AND I KNOW THAT Y'ALL'S CRITERIA HAS BEEN BASICALLY WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COUNTY AND THE CHEAPEST COST AND THE FINEST QUALITY OF CONSTRUCTION. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE OVERSEEING THIS, THE COUNTY MANAGER AND STAFF, IF THIS IS Y'ALLS FINAL PRODUCT AND YOU THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL WORK FOR THE BEST DEGREE TO THE CITIZENS OF CLAY COUNTY. >> YES, SIR, I DO. AND ONE THING I FORGOT TO MENTION, I HAD A COUPLE OF HOURS OF CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY ENGINEER OF LARGO, FLORIDA IN PINELLIS COUNTY AND THEY JUST FINISHED UP TWO ROADWAY PROJECTS LIKE THIS AND ONE COMMENT THEY MADE WAS IT WAS THE EASIEST PROJECT THEY HAD EVER DONE. THEY WERE IN A DOWNTOWN CONGESTED AREA WITH ALL SORTS OF ISSUES WE SHOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IN OUR MORE RURAL AREAS BRINGING THEM UP TO 3 AND 4 LANE ROADWAYS. >> VERY GOOD. [00:20:02] >> QUESTIONS, FOLKS? >> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION AND COMMENT. ONE A COMMENT I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE HARD WORK. THIS IS I THINK A GOOD HYBRID SOLUTION AND I KNOW YOU GUYS PUT A LOT OF EFFORT AND WORK INTO THIS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO DIVERSIFY THE RISK A LITTLE BIT. THE ONLY QUESTION, I THINK YOU ANSWERED IT, BUT ON THE FIRST RFQ IT GOES OUT AND THEN MID-MAY ARE THE RESPONSES. ARE WE GOING TO SELECT THE FIRST R IF, Q BEFORE WE SELECT THE OTHER THREE? >> YES, SIR, WE WILL. BUT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET THE OTHER THREE STARTED SO THERE'S NOT A LAG IN BETWEEN SELECTING THE FIRST ONE AND THE THIRD ONE. >> SO IN THEORY IF A COMPANY SUBMITS FOR ONE AND GETS THE FIRST ONE, THEN THEY WOULDN'T NEED TO APPLY FOR THE OTHER RFQ'S OBVIOUSLY? >> IN THE RFQ IT SAYS IF YOU'RE THE OWNER'S REP YOU CANNOT SUBMIT MORE THAN ONE DESIGN PROJECTS. >> BUT IT PREVENTS THEM FROM HAVING TO DO THE RFQ FOR BOTH BECAUSE OF IT BEING SEQUENCED. THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH, AGAIN I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE HARD WORK AND EFFORT ON THIS AND I KNOW I'VE BEEN ONE TO SUGGEST I'VE TAKEN A SECOND LOOK AND I REALLY AGAIN APPRECIATE ALL OF THE EFFORT ON IT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON. IS THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> I HAVE ONE. I HAVE A COMMENT TO MAKE. AS DALE AND I DISCUSSED THIS THING WHEN WE WERE BRIEFING THIS, THE GOVERNMENT, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW IS SPENDING A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY. WE'VE GOT $130 MILLION TO SPEND AND I SUSPECT IF WE COULD SPEND AS MUCH OF THAT AS POSSIBLE WITHIN THE BOUNDARY OF CLAY COUNTY, WE'D REALLY BE DOING SOMETHING FOR OUR CON TWITCH -- C CONSTITUENTS. EVEN TO THE POINT WHERE IF WE DON'T GET THE ABSOLUTE ROCK BOTTOM COST, IF WE CAN KEEP THIS MONEY IN THE ECONOMY TO DRIVE JOBS HERE I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING HERE. I KNOW THERE'S LEGAL CONSTRAINTS ON HOW WE DO THIS, BUT WHEREVER POSSIBLE, LET'S ERR ON THE SIDE OF MONEY HERE AS OPPOSED TO SENDING IT OUT OF THE COUNTY. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> AGREED. >> AND WHEN WE MAKE THE FINAL SELECTIONS WE CAN CALCULATE THAT IN EVEN IF IT'S INFORMALLY, RIGHT? >> I THINK IT OUGHT TO BE CALCULATED IN RIGHT AT THE FRONT. >> YEAH, I MEAN I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT AS A PART OF THE WHATEVER FINAL PRESENTATION IF WE ARE BEGINNING TO HAVE THAT. HOW MANY JOBS FROM CLAY COUNTY ARE PEOPLE FROM CLAY COUNTY, THAT TYPE OF THING. >> IF I MAY ADD, ONE OF THE TEN GRADING CRITERIA IS THE LOCATION OF YOUR OFFICE, WHETHER IT'S YOUR HOME OFFICE OR A SATELLITE OFFICE AND YOU GET MORE POINTS IN THAT CATEGORY IF YOU HAVE A HOME OFFICE IN CLAY COUNTY, A SATELLITE OFFICE IN CLAY COUNTY AND YOU ALSO GET CREDIT FOR THE NUMBER OF YOUR EMPLOYEES THAT WORK IN CLAY COUNTY. IF KAREN IS ONLINE, SHE CAN EXPLAIN THAT IN MORE DETAIL IF YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT. >> THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR THAT THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES IS KEY. BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE A SATELLITE OFFICE, YOU CAN RENT A BUILDING BUT ALL OF YOUR EMPLOYEES WILL STILL BE WORKING OUT OF SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO THAT'S GOOD THAT THE SECOND FACTOR INS THERE TOO IN TERMS OF HOW MANY EMPLOYEES LIVE OR WORK RELATED TO CLAY COUNTY. >> THAT POINT IS WELL TAKEN, COMMISSIONER BOLLA. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE MONEY IS COMING OUT OF OUR CITIZENS POCKET, IT NEEDS TO BE GOING BACK IN THE OTHER POCKET WHILE WE'RE PROCEEDING WITH THIS PROJECT. >> I'LL BEND OVER BACKWARDS TO MAKE SURE THIS HAPPENS AS MUCH AS I CAN, WITHIN THE LAW. LET ME PUT IT THAT WAY. >> TRUE. >> AND IF WE CAN KEEP FROM SENDING OF THE MONEY TO COMMUNIST CHINA THAT WOULD BE GREAT TOO. >> I'M GLAD YOU'RE ON TOP OF THAT, COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. I TOTALLY AGREE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY SAYS WE DON'T NEED SO MUCH A VOTE ON THIS BUT WE DO NEED A CONSENSUS FROM THE FIVE COMMISSIONERS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLAN AS DALE HAS PRESENTED IT. SO DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS? >> I'M IN AGREEMENT. >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER ROLLINS? >> I'M GOOD. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS, YOU'VE ALREADY SAID YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT. COMMISSIONER CELLA? >> YES, I'M ALSO IN AGREEMENT. AS COMMISSIONER ROLLINS INDICATED IT WAS A LOT OF WORK TO GET THERE. BUT I THINK IF DALE AND THE ECONOMY MANAGER ARE COMFORTABLE IN TERMS OF MOVING FORWARD AND CONVINCED THAT THIS IS THE BEST [00:25:01] WAY FOR US TO GET THE ROADS DONE IN AN EFFICIENT MANNER WITHOUT ANY HASSLE AS WE MOVE FORWARD THEN LET'S MOVE FORWARD AND THE FASTER WE CAN MOVE THIS OUT THE BETTER OFF WE'RE GOING TO BE IN TERMS OF GETTING THE KIND OF BIDS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND ALSO INJECTING OUR OWN STIMULUS INTO THE ECONOMIES. >> HEAR, HEAR. AND COMMISSIONER BOLLA, WE HAVE CONSENSUS OF YOUR APPROVAL, SIR? >> I'VE MADE MY COMMENTS BE KNOWN. IT'S TIME TO TIE IN THIS A NICE, NEAT BOW. THANKS. >> AND COMMISSIONER HENDRY WILL SUPPORT THIS AS PRESENTED BY OUR COUNTY ENGINEER AND DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. >> AND JUST ONE LITTLE POINT TO ADD FOR COMMISSIONER BOLLA, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT DALE AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE CCUA COORDINATION AGREEMENT AND HOW TO MAKE THAT WORK IN 1 OR 2 DIFFERENT AGREEMENTS. >> THANK YOU. THAT'S THAT WE NEED TO LATCH UP BEFORE WE START ALL OF THIS CONSTRUCTION. I KNOW WE HAVE SOME TIME BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT THING FOR OVER A YEAR NOW. >> DALE AND I AGREED THE AGREEMENT FROM CCUA AND IT REALLY NEEDED TO BE REWORKED SO WE'VE PUT SOME WORK INTO IT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. >> I'M SURE WE'RE IN GOOD HANDS. >> WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE UTILITIES, DALE, I KNOW THAT CLAY ELECTRIC HAS A CERTAIN PART TO PLAY IN THIS. OBVIOUSLY WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM AND GETTING THEIR INPUT AND KEEPING THEM APPRISED OF WHAT WE'RE DOING? >> THE CONSULTANTS WILL TALK TO ALL OF THE UTILITIES, ONE CLAY ELECTRIC, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LOT OF LINES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE. BUT ALSO CCUA, NOT ONLY FOR THE AREAS THAT THEY HAVE LINES BUT TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY, NOW IS THE BEST TIME FOR THEM TO DO ANY SORT OF AN EXTENSION WHILE THE ROAD IS BEING TORN UP AND REBUILT BECAUSE THAT WAY THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PAVING COSTS AND I'VE ALREADY HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH JEREMY JOHNSON ABOUT THAT. AND WE WILL AS SOON AS WE GET THE OWNER'S REP ON BOARD WE WILL START THAT DISCUSSION IN EARNEST. >> VERY GOOD. BASED ON THE PAST COMMENTS I THINK WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THIS PROPOSAL. SO DALE, COUNTY MANAGER, I THINK WE'RE GOOD TO GO. COUNTY ATTORNEY, ANY INPUT FROM YOU FOLKS? >> NO, SIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD THEN. LET'S MOVE ON INTO OUR AGENDA THEN. WE'RE DOWN TO OLD BUSINESS, WE HAVE NONE, THAT PARTICULAR ONE WAS PULLED. ITEM 24 WAS PULLED, I'M SORRY 24 AND 25 WERE PULLED. [26.  Agreement with Airstream Ventures, LLC - Sports Marketing and Sales] SO WE'RE DOWN INTO NEW BUSINESS. THE NEXT ITEMS 26 AND 27 DEAL WITH AGREEMENT WITH AIRSTREAM LLC AND PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT SPONSORSHIP AIRSTREAM. KIM, ARE YOU WITH US? >> YES, SIR. AIRSTREAM VENTURES, THE AIRSTREAM VENTURES CONTRACT IS ALREADY APPROVED. IT'S A PROJECT APPROVED BY TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL. THE CONTRACT IS FOR SALES AND MARKETING FOR SPORTS GROUPS TO COME INTO THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. BUT IT'S ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT NOW AS WE LOOK AT ECONOMIC RECOVERY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO WE'RE BRINGING THIS CONTRACT BEFORE YOU FOR APPROVAL. >> OKAY. AND I THINK WE HAVE THE AIRSTREAM REPS ON BOARD WITH US TODAY, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THEY ARE ON VIA PHONE. >> THEY'RE ON VIA PHONE. >> YES, SIR. >> ALL RIGHT. SO ITEM 26 SPECIFICALLY, KIM, WHAT WOULD BE THE BREAKDOWN ON THAT? >> YES, SIR. THE CONTRACT IS A THREE YEAR CONTRACT AT $66,000 PER YEAR. AND THAT'S COMING FROM OUR PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT FUND. >> OKAY. WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS. >> THE ONLY THING I HAD IN COMMENT ABOUT IT WAS IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE TOURISM IS NOT GOING TO BE A SHINING STAR IN THE NEAR COUPLE OF MONTHS. I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG THIS QUARENTINE BUSINESS IS GOING TO LAST. I'VE HEARD SOME SCARY TIMELINES WHERE IT COULD TAKE A YEAR TO DEVELOP A VACCINE. WE DON'T KNOW THAT TO BE TRUE. I WAS ALWAYS CRITICAL OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT CUT THEIR SALES STAFF WHEN THINGS WENT IN THE BASKET AND THIS IS A SIMILAR SITUATION. NOW IS THE TIME TO BUILD NOT TO TEAR DOWN. [00:30:01] BUT AT THE SAME TIME I ALSO SEE SOME ECONOMIC CLOUDS ON THE HORIZON AND I'M NOT SURE HOW THE COUNTY STANDS AS FAR AS NOT SPENDING MONEY YET ON SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT BEAR FRUIT IMMEDIATELY. THOSE ARE THE CONCERNS I'VE GOT. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE LAST CONTRACT WE DEALT WITH ON THAT, WE HAD SOMETHING LIKE A $60,000 APPROPRIATION FOR THE ONE YEAR I THOUGHT IT WAS WHERE WE GOT THE CYCLING GAME OR WHATEVER THAT WAS. HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO WHAT WE ALREADY APPROVED AND WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. THIS IS A THREE YEAR GOING FORWARD DEAL HERE, RIGHT? >> SO LET ME MAKE A CLARIFICATION IF I MAY THROUGH THE CHAIR. THE USA CYCLING IS THE AIRSTREAM VENTURES FIRST ACCOMPLISHMENT AND MAJOR GROUP THAT THEY HAVE BROUGHT TO OUR COMMUNITY FOR THIS CONTRACT. SO IT'S NOT A SEPARATE DEAL, IT'S ALL PART OF THE SAME DEAL THAT YOU ALL APPROVED BACK IN NOVEMBER. THIS IS JUST THE CONTRACT THAT FULFILLS THE ACTION THAT YOU ALL ALREADY APPROVED IN NOVEMBER, I MEAN IN JANUARY, SORRY, TIMELINE IS WRONG. IT WAS IN JANUARY THAT YOU ALL APPROVED THIS. SO USA CYCLING IS STILL ON THE BOOKS. AIRSTREAM VENTURES IS IN REGULAR CONTACT WITH USA CYCLING. THEY MAY PUSH THE DATE BACK. RIGHT NOW THE DATE IS AT THE END OF JUNE. THEY MAY PUSH IT BACK TO JULY. BUT THEY ARE STILL WANTING TO COME HERE AND HAVE THEIR EVENT HERE. AND IT MAY EVEN OPEN UP DOORS FOR ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR US. THEY HAVE HAD TO SHUFFLE SOME EVENTS AROUND AND WE HAVE SOME POTENTIAL FOR IT BEING GOOD FOR US. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. USA CYCLING IS 800 COMPETITORS THAT WOULD BE STIMULATING OUR ECONOMY AND INVESTING IN OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES. BUT THEY WOULDN'T BE UTILIZING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE EVERY DAY. THEY WOULD JUST BE COMING HERE FOR THEIR FOUR DAY EVENT. >> MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD ALSO WHEN I LOOKED AT THE AGENDA AND SAW THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE PROVING THE CONTRACT, IT DID MAKE ME PAUSE FOR JUST A MINUTE. BUT THEN I SAW THAT THE CONTRACT ITSELF IS RENEWABLE ON A YEARLY BASIS AND IT ALSO HAS A 30 DAY TERMINATION AGREEMENT AS PART OF THAT. SO I THINK WE NEED TO RIDE FORWARD WITH IT AT LEAST FOR THIS FIRST YEAR, SEE WHERE WE GO WITH USA CYCLING. THAT WILL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY, AND I THINK QUITE HONESTLY THAT WILL PUSH IT BACK EVEN INTO AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER IF THEY HAVE TO TO RUN THAT BECAUSE THEY'VE CANCELED ALL OF THEIR OTHERS AND TALKED ABOUT BRINGING SOME OF THOSE OTHER EVENTS AND COMBINING IT WITH THE CYCLING EVENT THIS THEY AWARDED TO US. IF THAT'S THE CASE, CERTAINLY OUR HOTELS DESPERATELY NEED ROOM NIGHTS AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE WERE COUNTING ON THIS EVENT TO HELP US WITH. SO COMMISSIONER BOLLA, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE THAT ALSO OCCURRED TO ME WHEN I LOOKED AT IT. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO RIDE WITH AIRSTREAM AND THEN GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO CONTINUE TO PLAN IF THIS EVENT IS GOING ON. SOMEBODY IS GOING TO NEED TO DO THE WORK TO GET US TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN RUN THE EVENT. I THINK WE RUN FORWARD WITH THIS. WE OWE THEM FOR THE 1ST QUARTER OF THE YEAR, WE'LL OWE THE SECOND QUARTER, THAT WILL GET US INTO JULY. AND I THINK WE CAN REASSESS AT THAT POINT AND LOOK WHERE WE ARE. AS YOU SAY, WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM IT'S NOT COMING BACK AS FAST OR WE DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO UNTIL MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LATER ON. MAYBE WE PUT THE AGREEMENT ON HOLD AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT AND SEE WHERE WE GO. BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT WE NEED TO APPROVE IT AND MOVE FORWARD AND THEN SEE WHERE EVERYTHING BECAUSE AT THIS POINT QUITE HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY CAN TELL YOU WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE. BUT I THINK THE EVENTUALITY IS WE'RE HOPING IT COMES, THEY STILL HAVE TO DO THE PREP WORK TO GET IT READY IN CASE THEY DECIDE TO PULL THE TRIGGER AND COME. AND WE CAN ALWAYS TALK TO THEM ABOUT THAT. >> AS LONG AS WE RECOGNIZE THAT, THAT'S OKAY. >> YES, SIR. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TOO THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT BUSINESS THAT WE CAN BOOK IN 2021, 2022, AND [00:35:07] 2023. THIS IS NOT JUST AN IN THE YEAR FOR THE YEAR TYPE OF RELATIONSHIP. SO WE'RE LOOKING LONG TERM AS WELL. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KIM WHILE WE'VE GOT HER UP? KIM, MY I ASK DID YOU GET A HAIR CUT? >> YES, SIR. >> LOOKS GOOD. >> BEFORE IT WAS CONSIDERED NONESSENTIAL. >> LOOKS GOOD ON YOU, MY DEAR. >> GAVIN, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? >> I ASKED A LOT OF THE SAME QUESTIONS AND KIMBERLY ANSWERED THEM THAT COMMISSIONER BOLLA ASKED AND I APPRECIATE THAT. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO HAVE THE EVENT, THE CYCLING EVENT. AND I THINK OBVIOUSLY NONE OF US KNOW, BUT I THINK IF WE STAY ON LOCKDOWN TOO MUCH LONGER THEN YOU'RE GOING TO JUST HAVE A MASS REBELLION IN THE COUNTRY. SO I THINK AT SOME POINT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO, I MEAN THERE'S SOME ENCOURAGING SIGNS IN CALIFORNIA THAT THEY MIGHT BE LIFTING THE BAN IN THE OR THE LOCKDOWN IN THE NEAR FUTURE. SO EVEN IF IT'S SHIFTED TO THE LEFT A LITTLE BIT, I THINK THAT WE STILL HAVE SOME GREAT POTENTIAL FOR SOME BIG EVENTS THAT WILL HELP OUR COUNTY. >> OKAY. AND I DON'T WANT TO FORGET OUR REPS FROM AIRSTREAM. GENTLEMEN OR GENTLEMAN, IF THERE'S ANY COMMENTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ON THIS WHILE WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO YOU. OKAY HEARING NONE, I'M NOT SURE WE HAD CONNECTIONS BUT OKAY, FOLKS, YOU'VE HEARD THE PROPOSAL ON ITEM 26, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT. >> SECOND. >> I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. >> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND WE WILL GO BACK TO ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER ROLLINS? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> I GUESS WE SWITCHED, YES. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> AYE. >> AND THE COMMISSIONER VOTES AYE. [27.  Product Development Sponsorship - Airstream Ventures Allocation] MOVING ON TO 27 WHICH IS PART OF THIS WHOLE THING. KIM, YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT, PLEASE? >> YES, SIR. THIS IS AN ALLOCATED AMOUNT THAT YOU ALL HAVE APPROVED PREVIOUSLY. IT WAS ORIGINALLY FOR A GOLF TOURNAMENT. IT'S A SPONSORSHIP THAT BASICALLY IS TO SHOW SUPPORT. WHAT AIRSTREAM VENTURE'S GOAL IS THAT THEY ACTUALLY WON'T USE THIS MONEY. THIS IS JUST TO SAY THAT IT'S A CUSHION. IF THEY NEED IT, IT'S THERE. BUT THEIR GOAL IS TO ROLL THIS OVER, THIS ALLOCATION OVER BY EVENT SO THAT THEY CAN SAY THAT THE COUNTY IS COMMITTED AND INVESTED IN THE EVENTS THAT THEY ARE BRINGING TO THE COUNTY. SO OUR ASK FOR THIS IS FOR THE ALLOCATION TO GO FROM THE AIRSTREAM VENTURES GOLF TOURNAMENT TO THE USA CYCLING EVENT. >> OKAY. >> SO IT'S JUST A REALLOCATION, WE'RE NOT SPENDING ANY NEW MONEY, IT'S JUST A REALLOCATION. >> SO THEY WILL HAVE UNFETTERED ACCESS TO CHOOSE TO SPEND THIS MONEY OR WILL THAT MONEY STILL BE CONTROLLED BY US? >> IT WILL GO TOWARDS OPERATION OF AN EVENT THAT, A SPORTING EVENT THAT THEY BRING TO CLAY COUNTY. >> OKAY. >> HOW MUCH MORE IS THE CYCLING GOING TO COST? IS SOMEBODY KEEPING SCORE HERE? >> IT'S NOT US THAT'S SPENDING THE MONEY IT'S AIRSTREAM VENTURES THAT'S SPENDING THE MONEY. AND THEY HAVE A BUDGET, THEY ARE SEEKING SPONSORSHIPS FOR THAT EVENT AND DEPENDNG ON, AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW THE BUDGET IS UP IN THE AIR SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE MAY BE OTHER EVENTS ADDED TO THAT. SO THAT BUDGET IS KIND OF NIMBLE RIGHT NOW. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE AIRSTREAM VENTURES IF JOEL OR ALAN CAN SPEAK TO THE ACTUAL BUDGET AMOUNT. >> SO IF JOE IS IT JOE OR ALLEN? >> JOEL. >> YOU CAN PRESS STAR 6 TO UNMUTE AND THEN COMMENT. >> HEY, THIS IS JOEL. >> HEY, JOEL. GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US. TECHNOLOGY DOES WORK. [00:40:02] HAVE YOU BEEN LISTENING TO THIS DISCUSSION, SIR? >> YES, SIR. >> OKAY, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU NEED TO ADD OR CLARIFY OR ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM YOUR COMPANY? >> YEAH. LET ME KIND OF, THE $7,500 IS A BACKSTOP FOR US ON THE HOTEL SIDE. WE'RE EXPECTING TO GET SPONSORSHIPS THROUGH THE HOTEL THROUGH A ROOM NIGHT REBATE. AND SO WHAT WE'VE GOT THIS BUILT AS KIND OF A BACKSTOP TO SHOW A, THAT THE COUNTY IS INVESTED THAT WAY WHEN WE GO TO HOLD A SPORTS FOUNDATION OR GO TO SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS FOR GRANTS AND SUPPORT, IT SHOWS THAT THE COUNTY IS INVESTED. AT THE END OF THE DAY OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP THE $7,500 WITH YOU GUYS AND WE JUST ROLL IT OVER TO THE NEXT EVENT, THE NEXT EVENT, THE NEXT EVENT. THAT'S OUR GAME PLAN. THAT WAY WE'RE ABLE TO USE THE RESOURCES FROM A SPONSORSHIP STANDPOINT BUT ALSO FROM THE ROOM NIGHT REBATE AND NOT TO RUN THE EVENT. THAT'S OUR GAME PLAN WITH THE CYCLING. >> JOEL, I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY AN UNFAIR QUESTION TO YOU AND YOU PROBABLY CAN'T ANSWER IT. BUT JUST YOUR BEST GUESS MAYBE, WHAT MONTH DO YOU THINK WE CAN LOOK FORWARD TO THIS CYCLING EVENT? >> UH, IN THE TALKS WITH THEM THEIR GOAL IS JULY IS WHAT THEY'RE KIND OF GUNNING FOR. THEY'RE HAVING TO SHUFFLE A NUMBER OF EVENTS AROUND RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE LOSS OF THE OLYMPICS AND SO NOW WITHOUT THE OLYMPICS KIND OF BEING THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR, OR THE END OF HEIR SEASON, THEY'RE ABLE TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBLE ON DATES FOR EVENTS. AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS IN JULY POTENTIALLY AUGUST AS OPPORTUNITIES TO HOST THIS EVENT. >> BUT WORST CASE WE CERTAINLY SHOULD HAVE IT DONE BY THE FALL, IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? >> THAT'S THE GAME PLAN. THEIR MINDSET RIGHT NOW IS TO GET THIS EVENT ON THE SCHEDULE AND HAVE IT. THIS IS A HUGE EVENT FOR THEM AND THEY'VE GOT TO GET IT DONE FOR ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO GOING FORWARD. >> OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE, JOEL? ANY QUESTIONS FOR JOEL? >> NOT NECESSARILY FOR JOEL BUT MAYBE TO MR. PRICE AND TO OUR ATTORNEY. $7,500 NUMBER ONE ISN'T THAT MUCH MONEY. IT SORT OF SOUNDS LIKE A PRECEDENT THOUGH THAT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY GIVING AN OUTFIT IN ADVANCE OF MONEY, I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD SLUSH FUND BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AIMED AT ANY PARTICULAR THING. IT'S OUR MONEY, IT'S SITTING THERE. IS THAT LEGAL? CAN WE DO THAT? >> THIS IS COURTNEY. AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS APPROVED THROUGH THE TDC AND THROUGH THEIR PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT GUIDELINES. IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED FOR THE GOLF TOURNAMENT AND THEN AFTER THE GOLF TOURNAMENT DID NOT COME TO FRUITION WHEN IT WAS ASKED OF THE TDC TO REALLOCATE IT FOR THE CYCLING EVENT, TDC EVALUATED IT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THEIR PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT POLICY AND MADE THE DECISION UNDER THEIR POLICY TO APPROVE IT AND THEN THEY'RE JUST MOVING IT FORWARD AND ASKING FOR YOUR OVERALL BLESSING. >> SO WE REALLY DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT STUFF? >> WELL, I MEAN, YOU CAN CERTAINLY VOTE TO DENY IT. BUT THEY HAVE SET IN PLACE CERTAIN STANDARDS THAT THEY LOOK AT THAT GUIDE THEM IN MAKING THEIR DECISION AND THEY EVALUATED IT AND DETERMINED THAT THIS WAS AN ALLOCATION THAT THEY WANTED TO MAKE JUST LIKE IN DETERMINATION WITH MANY OTHER SPONSORSHIPS. >> YOU'RE GOOD WITH THIS THEN LEGALLY, RIGHT? >> YES. >> ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OF JOEL OR ANY COMMENTS, I THINK IT'S TIME TO GO AHEAD AND ASK FOR A MOTION OF APPROVAL. >> I MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. OKAY. AND ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> YES. >> AND THE COMMISSIONER HENDRY VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ON THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. KIM, ANYTHING YOU NEED TO ADD TO WRAP UP OR JOEL? >> NO, SIR, THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. [00:45:04] >> I MUTED JOEL SO IF HE WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENT, STAR SIX. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, MOVING ON TO, [28.  Bid #19/20-15, Demolition and Reconstruction Project - Pine Avenue North] THAT WAS NUMBER 27, MOVING ON TO NUMBER 28 BID NUMBER 19/20-15 DEMOLITION AND RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT-PINE AVENUE NORTH. IS THERE ANY PRESENTATION ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ITEM? >> WHERE WE SEE THIS IS THE LOW BID OF SEEKING APPROVAL TO AWARD THE BID. >> OKAY. COMMIS COMMISSIONERS? >> MOVE APPROVAL. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> I'LL SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA SECONDS. AND WE GO TO ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA? >> YES. >> AND THE COMMISSIONER HENDRY VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ALSO. THANK YOU. [29.  Bid No. 19/20-14, Building Inspection Services and Agreement (K. Thomas)] ITEM 29 BID NO. -- >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE A MENTION THAT I BELIEVE MAXXIM IS A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY THAT HAS TIES TO CLAY COUNTY AS WELL SO THAT IS A GOOD PART OF THAT AS WELL AS THE LOW BID, THEY HAVE A LOT OF CLAY COUNTY CONNECTION HERE SO WE'LL KEEP THAT MONEY IN THE COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CELLA. BID NO. 19/20-14 BUILDING INSPECTION SERVICES AND AGREEMENT. MISS KAREN? >> WE'RE SEEKING AWARD OF THIS BID TO UNIVERSAL ENGINEERING SERVICES. THEY WERE THE LOW BID AT $75 AN HOUR. THEY CURRENTLY PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE COUNTY NOW TO HELP AUGMENT OUR STAFF. OUR STAFF IS LOW. WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE ALL OF OUR POSITIONS FILLED SO THIS IS A WAY TO OUTSOURCE SOME OF THE INSPECTION SERVICES. WE ASK FOR APPROVAL AND APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT. >> ALL RIGHT. BEFORE WE TAKE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS KIND OF ONE PIECE OF A LARGER PUZZLE, THAT IS OUR BUILDING INSPECTION SERVICES WHICH I THINK WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO DISCUSS AT THIS POINT. SO WE HAVE COUNTY MANAGER WHO WANTS TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS AND I THINK PROBABLY SOMETHING SHE'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US ALSO IN REGARDS TO THIS TOPIC. SO COUNTY MANAGER. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD, TAKING A LOOK AT THE AMOUNT THAT WE SPEND ON UNIVERSAL ENGINEERING SERVICES, IT'S APPROXIMATELY $10,000 TO $12,000 A MONTH IN AUGMENTING OUR INSPECTIONS TEAM. WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FOR A INSPECTOR THREE AND WHAT WE WOULD PAY FOR AN INSPECTOR THREE IN BOTH SALARY AND BENEFITS WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY $6,000 A MONTH. SO TO EQUATE THAT, TWO INSPECTOR THREE TEAM MEMBERS WOULD EQUATE TO A MONTHLY AMOUNT THAT WE'D BE PAYING FOR UNIVERSAL ENGINEERING SERVICES. SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA ON THAT. I'D LIKE TO ALSO JUST GET SOME CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OBVIOUSLY PLUSSING UP OUR INSPECTORS. I'LL ALSO NOTE THAT WHILE WE HAVE BEEN IN THIS LIMITED ACCESS TO THE ADMIN BUILDING BOTH BUILDING, ZONING, AND CODE ENFORCEMENT HAVE BEEN BUSY AT WORK. AS AN EXAMPLE YESTERDAY BUILDING AND ZONING TOOK 17 APPOINTMENTS. THEY AVERAGE MORE THAN TEN APPOINTMENTS EACH BUSINESS DAY. SO TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THOSE ESSENTIAL SERVICES BEING CONDUCTED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY DEFINITELY BUILDING AND ZONING STILL NEEDS WORK. SO I'LL OPEN UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. >> HOWARD, WHAT'S THE EFFECTIVE RATE THAT ONE OF OUR BUILDING INSPECTORS TAKES HOME THIS THREE LEVEL GUY, WHAT DOES HE GET PAID IN HIS CHECK? >> OH THE -- >> TRYING TO COMPARE IT TO WHAT WE'RE PAYING TO THESE OTHER GUYS. >> OH PER THE HOURLY RATE, WHAT I WAS EQUATING WAS A MONTHLY RATE. IT WAS $6,000 A MONTH. THAT AMOUNT INCLUDES BENEFITS. THE APPROXIMATE HOURLY RATE, IT CAN BE FROM $19 AN HOUR TO $26 AN HOUR. [00:50:02] >> AND ASSUMING THE OTHER GUYS ARE PAYING BENEFITS AS WELL, WE NEED TO GET OUR PEOPLE SORT OF ON PARITY WITH SOME OF THESE OTHER FOLKS. THAT WOULD BE ISSUE ONE. ISSUE TWO IS I'M NOT SURE WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THIS LEVEL OF CONSTRUCTION HERE IN THE NEXT YEAR. I SEE THINGS SLOWING DOWN SOMEWHAT. AND ALTHOUGH YOU NEED SOME HELP TODAY GOING FORWARD, WE'VE GOT TO KEEP AN EYE ON WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OVER THE HORIZON HERE IF WE CAN. I GOT A FEELING THINGS ARE GOING TO SLOW DOWN FOR YOU. AND WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GET IN THE POSITION WHERE WE HAVE TO REDUCE POSITIONS AGAIN. ALTHOUGH THIS MAY BE AN AREA THAT WE HAVE TO HOLD. SO THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. >> COMMISSIONER HENDRY, CAN I MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS? >> NOW MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME FOR YOU TO WEIGH IN ON THIS. >> WAS THAT ME, I'M SORRY? >> YES, YES, GO RIGHT AHEAD. >> I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I AGREE WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO BEEF UP OUR INSPECTORS AND THE FACT THAT THEY'RE JUST DOING WAY TOO MANY INSPECTIONS IN A DAY. AND THEY'RE WORKING TOO MANY HOURS IN A DAY. SO BETWEEN THE COUNTY MANAGER AND STEVE AND JENNIFER AND HR WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO WHERE WE CAN HIRE 2 OR 3 MORE GUYS. EVEN IF IT DOES SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT, COMMISSIONER BOLLA, WE'RE STILL DOING TOO MANY INSPECTIONS PER PERSON ON A DAILY BASIS. SO WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME RELIEF PRETTY QUICKLY. SO THAT'S ALL MY COMMENTS. >> I HAVE TO SAY I'M THE FIRST GUY WHO'S GOING TO JUMP UP AND DOWN AND SAY IF WE CAN FARM IT OUT, LET'S FARM IT OUT. BUT BUILDING INSPECTION IS KIND OF A CORE THINKING FOR THE COUNTY TO CONTROL HERE. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T WANT TO FARM OUT. LET'S KEEP AS MUCH OF THAT AS WE CAN TO GET THE JOB DONE. >> WELL ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE SPENDING ADDITIONAL MONEYS. IF WE'RE ALREADY SPENDING THAT MONEY FOR OUTSIDE AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BRING THAT INSIDE, I MEAN QUITE HONESTLY I'VE SEEN THE INSPECTION PROCESS UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL HERE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. MY DAUGHTER BUILT A HOUSE AND JUST RECENTLY MOVED INTO IT. I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE FRUSTRATIONS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR SIDE AND ALSO SOME OF THE FRUSTRATIONS THAT THE BUILDERS ON THE OTHER SIDE AND PART OF IT IS YEAH, GUYS ARE WORKING LONG HOURS AND QUITE HONESTLY I THINK WE GET A BETTER VALUE FOR OUR DOLLAR WHEN OUR OWN INSPECTORS GO OUT. AT LEAST THAT'S THE GENERAL OPINION IN THE FIELD AS WELL. SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I THINK WE CAN ADJUST. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE RENEWING A CONTRACT WITH UNIVERSAL AT THIS TIME AND WHAT IS YOUR GAME PLAN FOR MOVING FORWARD IN TERMS OF HIRING ADDITIONAL INSPECTORS? >> WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER AND THE HR DIRECTOR TO TRY TO COME UP WITH SOME COMPARABLE SALARIES SO THAT WE CAN GET THESE NEW FOLKS IN THERE. AS SOON AS WE COME UP TO A SALARY THAT WE ALL AGREE UPON, WE'VE GOT FOLKS THAT I THINK WE COULD GET TO COME TO WORK FOR US IF WE CAN PAY THEM A COMPARABLE SALARY. THEY'RE GETTING PAID MORE TO GO ACROSS THE BRIDGE TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY OR TO DUVAL COUNTY OR OTHER SURROUNDING COUNTIES WHEN THEY LIVE IN CLAY COUNTY. SO WE'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT I THINK WOULD LOVE TO COME TO WORK HERE IF I COULD GET THEM A LIVING WAGE WHICH RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST NOT PAYING THEM. >> IN THE MEANTIME WE'LL BE DEPENDING ON THE CONTRACTING SERVICES OF UNIVERSAL AND THEN HOPEFULLY AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE WE'LL GET SOME PEOPLE ON BOARD THAT WILL GIVE OUR FOLKS A BIT OF A BREAK IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF HOMES OR THE NUMBER OF JOBS THAT THEY'RE INSPECTING ON A DAILY BASIS AND LOOK TO MOVE THAT ALL IN HOUSE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE IF THAT'S THE WAY THAT THE ECONOMY GOES AND THE BUILDING GOES? >> WE WOULD LOVE TO NOT HAVE TO FARM OUT ANY OF OUR INSPECTIONS HONESTLY. WE GET SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT MAYBE SOME OF YOU GUYS HAVE GOTTEN. TEY REALLY LIKE TO HAVE A COUNTY INSPECTOR VERSUS A PROVIDER. SO YES, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WOULD LOVE TO ONLY USE THIS COMPANY DURING DIRE EMERGENCIES. WE WOULD LOVE TO NOT HAVE TO SEND THEM ANY INSPECTIONS ON A DAILY BASIS. BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THAT'S JUST NOT AN OPTION. AND IF I CAN ADD TO THAT, COMMISSIONER CELLA, PART OF THE [00:55:03] PROBLEM IS THE FACT THAT WE'LL GIVE THOSE GUYS SOME INSPECTIONS IN THE MORNING AND THEY'LL GIVE US A GOOD HANDFUL OF THEM BACK IN THE AFTERNOON WHEN GUYS ARE OUT DOING A JOB AND THEY'RE MOVED TO THE NEXT DAY WHICH OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T MAKE OUR CUSTOMERS HAPPY. BUT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT UNTIL THE END OF THE DAY. AS PART OF THE CONTACT PREP WITH STEVE AND OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND KAREN WE'VE ADDED SOME NEW PROVISIONS IN THAT CONTRACT TO HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE A LITTLE MORE FOR THAT PURPOSE. >> AS I SAID THAT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE HAVING SEEN IT UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE BUILDING SUPERVISORS WHEN THEY SEE ONE OF CLAY COUNTY INSPECTORS COME UP THEY ACTUALLY DO A LITTLE DANCE THERE AS THEY'RE VERY HAPPY ABOUT SEEING THEM AS OPPOSED TO THE CONTRACTORS. SO I THINK THAT WILL MAKE EVERYBODY'S JOB A LITTLE BIT EASIER. AT THIS POINT IN TIME I GUESS WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD TO GIVE YOU SOME AMMUNITION AS FAR AS PEOPLE OUT IN THE FIELD AND YOU'LL WORK WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER TO COME UP A GAME PLAN TO MOVE US FORWARD FROM THERE. >> OKAY. WE SEE THE PROBLEM, WE'VE ADDRESSED THE FIX. SO TO GET US GOING TODAY AND THROUGH THAT POINT, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER ITEM 29 SO WHAT'S THE BOARD'S POSITION ON IT? >> MOVE TO APPROVAL. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA MOVES APPROVAL. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT AND THE ROLL CALL WILL BE COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> AYE. >> AND COMMISSIONER HENDRY VOTES AYE. THAT IS PASSED. [30.  Waiver of the Purchasing Policy - Universal Engineering Sciences Inc. (K. Thomas)] THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND MOVING ON TO ITEM 30 WHICH IS AN ADJUNCT TO 29 REQUESTING TO WAIVE THE POLICY TO GET THIS MOVED ALONG THE PURCHASE AND POLICY. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, GIVEN THAT THE FORMAL BID HAS BEEN ISSUED AND THIS IS MORE OR LESS A TEMPORARY SITUATION I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE ITEM. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> AYE. >> AND COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> YES. >> I KNEW HE WAS GOING TO SAY THAT. >> AND I WILL BE VOTING IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ON THAT. OKAY WE'VE DONE 29 AND 30. WE'RE DOWN TO 31 BUT WE'RE GOING TO STOP AT THAT POINT AND ADDRESS OUR TIME CERTAINS WHICH [41.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter can be heard: Ordinance and Resolution to Amend the Capital Improvement Element (CIE) (O. Rabel)] GOES TO ITEM 41. TIME CERTAIN AT 5:00. AND WE'RE DEAD ON IT. SO WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD. THIS IS A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ELEMENT. OLGA, ARE YOU WITH US? >> JUST A REMINDER STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. >> OLGA, HIT STAR SIX AND WE SHOULD BE HEARING YOU. OLGA? >> I'LL TAKE IT. SO ON 41 ON THIS COUNTY ROAD 315C PROJECT THE AMOUNT IS TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT IS MORE THAN WHAT WAS EXPECTED IN APPROXIMATELY $500,000. SO THIS RESOLUTION WOULD AMEND THIS SO THAT $500,000 WOULD MOVE TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT. I BELIEVE DALE CAN TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL COSTS HERE AND HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME UP AND READ THIS ON THOSE DETAILS. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> THERE'S OLGA. >> I CAN HEAR YOU NOW, OLGA. BUT THE COUNTY MANAGER JUST IMMEDIATE YOUR PRESENTATION FOR YOU. >> PERFECT. >> SO JUST STANDBY. YOU'LL BE UP AGAIN. DALE SMITH, ARE YOU THERE? >> YES, SIR, I AM. COUNTY 315C, THAT WAS A STATE GRANT FOR RIGHT AT $3 MILLION. WE PAID THE ENGINEERING FEES OUT OF IT. AND WE WOULD HAVE HAD ENOUGH MONEY TO BID AND AWARD THE PROJECT EXCEPT DURING THE DESIGN PROCESS WE FOUND THREE SECTIONS OF THE ROADWAY THAT HAD NO LYME [01:00:10] ROD BASE UNDER IT. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO ADD SHOULDERS TO IT AND COMPLETE OVERLAY. INSTEAD OF DOING THAT NOW WE'RE HAVING TO RECONSTRUCT THREE DIFFERENT PLACES ON THE ROAD WHICH IS WHAT HAS INCREASED THE COST, THE $500,000 ALLOWS US TO AWARD THIS BID. WE OPENED THE BID PROBABLY AT OUR LAST BOARD MEETING AND WE HAVE BEEN SITTING, WAITING FOR THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE CONTRACTOR. >> SO WHO BUILT THE ORIGINAL WITHOUT A SUB BASE? >> THIS WAS AN OLD ORIGINAL D.O.T. ROAD. AND THEY PROBABLY BUILT IT WITH WHAT WAS CALLED A BLACK BASE BACK THEN, YOU WOULD MIX LIQUID ASPHALT IN WITH YOUR SAND, IF YOU HAD GOOD SAND IT HELD UP VERY WELL. THE CONSULTANT HAD DENSITY TESTS TAKEN ON ALL OF THESE SECTIONS AND DETERMINED THAT IT WOULD NOT HOLD UP UNDER THE RESURFACING THAT WE WOULD BE DOING ON TOP OF IT. >> OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD, GAVIN. >> I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL BE EXCITED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. >> IF YOU WOULD HOLD THAT MOTION FOR ONE MOMENT WE ARE REQUIRED TO GO INTO PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS. IS ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT'S WITH US THAT WANTS TO ADDRESS THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE? >> ISN'T THERE ANOTHER COMPONENT TO THIS? >> TROY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? >> I WAS GOING TO SAY, CHAIRMAN, WE RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM NUMBER 41. >> YEAH, DALE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOUR COMMENT WAS, SAY THAT AGAIN, PLEASE. >> I THOUGHT THERE WAS ANOTHER COMPONENT TO THIS CEI. I THOUGHT THERE WAS A SCHOOL BOARD COMPONENT. ISN'T THAT CORRECT, HOWARD? >> STANDBY. WE'RE CHECKING, DALE. I'M NOT AWARE OF IT IF IT IS. >> OLGA. >> THE SCHOOLBOARD IS THE SECOND PART. IT'S NOT THE CEI PORTION IT'S JUST A REGULAR RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE BUDGET. >> OKAY, SORRY. >> OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT, ARE WE READY TO GET BACK TO COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. TAKE IT AWAY, GAVIN. >> I MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. THEN WE'LL GO TO THE VOTE. COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> AYE. >> AND COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> AYE. >> AND COMMISSIONER HENDRY VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. THANK YOU, FOLKS. MOVING ONTO ITEM 42. [42.  5:00 Time Certain or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Final Public Hearing to Consider Rezoning Application PUD 19-12: PUD to PUD, Radar Road (Commissioner District 1, Commissioner Cella). (P.C.voted 6 to 1 in favor) (Continued from February 25, 2020 BCC Meeting) (B. Carson/C. Stewart)] THIS WOULD BE CONSIDER THE REZONING APPLICATION PUD TO PUD ON RADAR ROAD. THAT WAS IN COMMISSIONER CELLA'S DISTRICT. BESS CARSON DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THIS? >> YES, I DO. THERE'S A POWERPOINT. >> GO RIGHT AHEAD. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THIS IS ITEM PUD 19-12. THE PARCEL IS APPROXIMATELY 11.36 ACRES AND IS LOCATED WITHIN THE PLANNED COMMUNITY FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY. A 108 MULTIFAMILY UNIT WAS PREVIOUSLY ESTABLISHED. AT THAT TIME A VERY GENERAL SITE PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN THE ORDINANCE. NEXT SLIDE. SURROUNDING ZONINGS OF THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND WEST AS WELL AS A LITTLE PORTION ON THE SOUTH ARE PUD AS WELL AND TO THE EAST IS US-17 AND RADAR ROAD EASEMENT IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTH OF THE PARCEL. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE PROJECT. NEXT SLIDE. THESE ARE SITE PHOTOS, YOU CAN SEE THE SITE IS PRIMARILY CLEARED ALREADY. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN SHOWING THE LOCATIONS OF THE BUILDINGS AS WELL AS THEIR ENTRANCE ONTO [01:05:02] RADAR ROAD EASEMENT. NEXT SLIDE. THE WRITTEN STATEMENT HAS HAD SOME AMENDMENTS SINCE THE FEBRUARY 25TH MEETING. THE APPLICANT HAS REVISED THE WRITTEN STATEMENT TO ADDRESS THE FOLLOWING. SIGNAGE HAS BEEN CHANGED ON PAGE SIX. RADAR ROAD SIDEWALK CONTRIBUTION HAS CHANGED AND THAT HAS ACTUALLY CHANGED FURTHER TODAY. WE WERE MAKING MODIFICATIONS TO THAT WHICH THE APPLICANT WILL DESCRIBE. THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO BLACK CREEK TRAIL TO THE APARTMENTS IS ALSO A CHANGE AND THAT'S LISTED ON PAGE NINE. NEXT SLIDE. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND DETERMINED THAT THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPRISED WITH THE APPROVED DRI IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF APPLICATION PUD 19-12 AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS VOTED 6-1 FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION. WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME COMMENTS FROM THE FLEMING ISLAND ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THEY SENT US AN EMAIL ON APRIL 10TH. AND I'D LIKE TO READ THAT INTO THE MINUTES. THE FLEMING ISLAND ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S POSITION ON ZONING APPLICATION REMAINS UNCHANGED. THE BUILDING OF 185 APARTMENTS ON THE 11 ACRE PARCEL WITH SINGLE ACCESS BEING ONTO A SIX LANE HIGHWAY IS CREATING AN UNSAFE SITUATION FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE APARTMENTS. THIS SITUATION WILL EQUALLY ENDANGER THE USERS OF THE RECREATION PARK LOCATED ON RADAR ROAD. ALTERNATIVE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY TO ALLOW ACCESS TO TOWN CENTER BOULEVARD MUST BE CONSTRUCTED IN ORDER TO ALLEVIATE THIS POTENTIAL HAZARD. THIS EMAIL IS SIGNED PETER M. DAVIS, CHAIRMAN OF THE FLEMING ISLAND ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND THE APPLICANT WILL ALSO HAVE >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. CARSON FROM THE COMMISSIONERS BEFORE WE DEB TO THE APPLICANT. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON. ARE YOU THERE? ARE YOU WITH US? >> YES, I AM. THANK YOU. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. >> SUSAN, SLS CONSULTING IN JACKSONVILLE. I'M HERE REPRESENTING BRISTOL DEVELOPMENT WHO IS THE PURCHASER OF THE PROPERTY AND THE LANDOWNER. I HAVE MR. CARLISLE FROM BRISTOL DEVELOPMENT ON THE PHONE AS WELL I BELIEVE ON THE CONFERENCE. AND JERRY WHO IS THE LANDOWNER. I ALSO HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION IF TROY COULD BRING THAT UP. NOW I'M A LITTLE BIT HANDICAPPED I'M WATCHING YOU ON THE COMPUTER AND SO I THINK THERE'S A BIT OF A DELAY SO IF I PAUSE IT'S BECAUSE I'M NOT SEEING THE SAME TELEPOINT MAYBE AS QUICKLY AS YOU ARE. SO THANK YOU FOR INVITING US TODAY. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS, IT WAS INITIALLY PRESENTED ON FEBRUARY 25TH AND WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO COMPLETE THAT DISCUSSION. SO THE PROJECT IS, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. IT WAS ORIGINALLY ZONED IN 1992 AMENDED IN 2016 TO ALLOW MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. SO I'M GOING TO PAUSE AND LET THE SLIDE CATCH UP. >> SUSAN, DID YOU SAY 480? >> 180. SO THE PROPERTY IS AN EASEMENT DRIVEWAY IF YOU WILL FOR GRACE CHURCH TO THE SOUTH AND TO THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL. IT PROVIDES DRIVEWAY ACCESS ALSO TO THE PARK TO THE WEST. AND IT DOES NOT CONNECT ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO EAGLE HARBOR PARKWAY. ORIGINALLY REZONED IN 2016, THE REZONING. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE PUD PLAN IN 2016 WAS ADDRESSED LANDSCAPE BUFFERING AND PROJECT SIGNAGE AND THE ENTITLEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY EXCEPT FOR ALL OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS BUT IT DID NOT INCLUDE SITE PLANS. YOU'LL SEE THAT ALL OF THE DETAILS SURROUND THE PROPERTY AND THERE'S A NOTE THAT SAYS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THE MIDDLE. IF I COULD HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. [01:10:03] BRISTOL DEVELOPMENT GROUP HAS THE SITE UNDER CONTRACT TODAY AND THEIR PROPOSAL IS TO DEVELOP THIS 11.36 ACRES AS SHOWN. HERE WE GO. SO THIS PROJECT HAS FIVE STRUCTURES ON IT. THREE OF WHICH ARE FOUR STORIES AND TWO OF WHICH ARE THREE STORIES. WE KIND OF COVERED THIS SITE PLAN IN FEBRUARY AND AT THE END I'M WILLING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. SO WE DID IN FEBRUARY TALK ABOUT TWO CHANGES TO THE PUD. IF WE COULD HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS THE PUD WRITTEN STATEMENT. THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE IN FEBRUARY THAT WE PRESENTED IN FEBRUARY ADDRESSED SIGNAGE FOR THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. IT ALLOWED THAT SIGNAGE TO BE LOCATED IN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER BETWEEN RADAR ROAD AND THE PARKING LOT. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT A CONTRIBUTION FOR SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS AND THAT CONDITON WAS CHANGED SLIGHTLY TODAY IN CONSULTATION WITH THE STAFF. WE WANTED A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICITY ABOUT WHEN THAT CONTRIBUTION WOULD BE PAID AND SO WHAT YOU SEE IN THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE WORKED ON TODAY AND THE APPLICANT IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE STAFF REQUEST FOR THIS PARTICULAR CONDITION. THE THIRD CONDITION IS SOMETHING ADDED SINCE FEBRUARY. WE CAME TO UNDERSTAND AFTER LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN OVER THE LAST MONTH THAT IT IS LIKELY WE WILL WANT PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, A WALK TO THE RECREATION TRAIL AND SO WE WANT TO JUST PUT THAT IN THE PUD THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT SUCH PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND THAT IF WE CONSTRUCT IT, IT COULD BE SECURED SAY AT NIGHT TO LIMIT ACCESS TO RESIDENTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT. SO THOSE ARE THE CONDITIONS THAT WE HAVE. TWO OF THE TOP ONES WE COVERED IN FEBRUARY AND THEN THE ONE AT THE BOTTOM IS ONE NEW FOR TODAY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT THAT ATTENDED THE MEETING IN FEBRUARY, THEY PERFORMED A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WHICH WAS PART OF THE APPLICATION TO EVALUATE THE PROJECT'S POTENTIAL TRAFFIC IMPACTS ON THE INTERSECTION OF US-17 AND RADAR ROAD. THEY USED IT FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, THAT IS THE RATE THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WE PROPOSED. AND THEY CONDUCTED COUNTS IN OCTOBER OF 2019 IN THE AM PEAK HOUR AND IN THE PM PEAK HOUR. CAN I GET THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THEIR COUNTS AND THEIR OBSERVATIONS IDENTIFY GAPS IN THE TRAFFIC. WE FOCUSED ON THE AM TRAFFIC. THE DISCUSSION IN FEBRUARY WAS MOSTLY THAT THIS IS RESIDENTIAL AND THAT THE CONCERN AND THE FOCUS SHOULD BE ON PEOPLE EXITING THE PROJECT ON RADAR ROAD TURNING TO THE EAST AND THEN TURNING ONTO US-17. SO THE PRESENTATION IDENTIFIED THAT THERE WAS A SIDE STREET DELAY MEANING THAT YOU COULD WAIT FROM 0 TO 79 SECONDS TO GET OUT FROM RADAR ROAD ON TO US-17 FOR A FULL NORTHBOUND TURN AND THE AVERAGE DELAY WAS ABOUT 31 SECONDS. THE OBSERVATIONS IN OCTOBER ALSO IDENTIFY THAT THERE WERE TIMES WHEN BOTH DIRECTIONS WERE CLEAR. AND THAT WOULD ALLOW WHAT'S CALLED A ONE STAGE CROSSING. YOU WOULD LOOK TO THE NORTH, LOOK TO THE SOUTH, ENTER, CROSS THROUGH THE MEDIAN, AND CONTINUE TO THE NORTH. AND THAT THERE WERE ALSO TIMES WHEN ONE DIRECTION WAS CLEAR AND THE OTHER WAS NOT. THAT WOULD ALLOW A TWO STAGE CROSSING, SO ONE WOULD CROSS TO THE MEDIAN, PAUSE, AND PULL INTO THE NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC IN THE MORNING. IF I CAN GET THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO WE HEARD SOME QUESTIONS AT THE PRESENTATION IN FEBRUARY FROM BOTH THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE PUBLIC. AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE HEARD WAS DID YOUR CONSULTANT USE THE CORRECT TRIP GENERATION RATE. SO WE WENT BACK TO THE LATEST EDITION, THIS IS THE VOLUME OF TRIP GENERATION DATA THAT YOU USED IN YOUR IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE. IT HAS THREE RATES, GENERAL URBAN SUBURBAN, DENSE [01:15:03] MULTIFAMILY URBAN, AND CITY CORE. SO THEY USED THE HIGHEST OF THOSE RATES WHICH IS THE GENERAL URBAN SUBURBAN RATE. SO THAT IS A CATEGORY THAT IS SPECIFIC TO A SUBURBAN ENVIRONMENT FOR APARTMENTS. IF I COULD HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND SO AGAIN THEY LOOKED AT THE SAFETY AND OPERATIONAL FUNCTION OF THIS RADAR ROAD AT US-17. THEY USED THAT HIGHEST RATE WHICH IS THE APPROPRIATE RATE. IF I COULD HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE. AND ANOTHER QUESTION THAT WE WERE ASKED IN FEBRUARY WAS WERE THE OBSERVATIONS THAT WERE TAKEN BETWEEN 8:00 A.M. AND 9:00 A.M. PERFORMED IN THE PEAK HOUR OF THE AM TRAFFIC ON 17. IN OTHER WORDS IS THAT A TIME PERIOD WHEN THERE WAS THE MOST TRAFFIC ON 17 AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY OBSERVING THE WORST CASE FOR SOMEONE TRYING TO ENTER AND TURN NORTH ON US-17. AS LUCK WOULD HAVE IT WE FOUND D.O.T. MAINTAINS THE CONTINUOUS COUNT STATION ON US-17. THAT LOCATION, THAT COUNT STATION IS LOCATED .6 MILES SOUTH OF 220 WHICH IS ABOUT 100 FEET NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY. SO THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS A COUNT STATION THAT COUNTS EVERY HOUR OF EVERY DAY AND IT COUNTS, IT IDENTIFIES BAD DAYS, ABNORMAL DAYS, HOLIDAYS, NORMAL DAYS. SO IT'S A COMPLETE ANALYSIS OF WHAT THE TRAFFIC IS DOING. AND SO IF I COULD HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE WERE ABLE TO USE THAT DATA AND FOR THE YEAR OF 2018 WHICH IS THE LATEST DATA AVAILABLE WE WERE ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT YES, INDEED, THE PERIOD BETWEEN 8:00 A.M. AND 9:00 A.M. IS THE HIGHEST TRAFFIC COUNT ON US-17 IN THE MORNING. AND SO THE TABLE THAT YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE IS ACTUALLY SHOWING THE FIRST NUMBER IS SIX AT 6:00 A.M. >> TROY HAS TO GO BACK ONE. THANK YOU. SUSAN, YOUR SLIDE IS UP NOW. >> I'M SO SORRY, I'M WATCHING ON THE COMPUTER AND I'M BEHIND YOU. SO THE SLIDE ACTUALLY IT SAYS END OF THE HOUR AM6:00 SO THAT IS THE ONE HOUR PERIOD BETWEEN 5:00 A.M. AND 6:00 A.M. THE NEXT IS BETWEEN 6:00 A.M. AND 7:00 A.M. AND THE HIGHLIGHTED COLUMNS ARE SHOWING YOU WHERE THE HIGHEST COUNT IS. THE OBSERVATIONS THAT WERE TAKEN WERE IN THE HIGHEST HOUR. AND SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO WE FEEL LIKE THE OBSERVATIONS WERE SHOWING THE WORST CASE ANA ANALYSIS. AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AGAIN THE TIME PERIOD BETWEEN THE LAST HEARING IS EARLY MARCH. AND THEY DID OBSERVATIONS AND WE HAVE SOME VIDEO THAT WE HAVE SHARED WITH STAFF AND WITH SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS THAT SHOWS THE ACTUAL DRIVING CONDITIONS. SO THEY STOOD AT RADAR ROAD AND THEY SHOWED YOU THE TRAFFIC WHAT YOU WOULD OBSERVE IF YOU WERE TRYING TO CROSS. BUT THE TABLE THAT YOU SEE ON THIS SLIDE IS ACTUALLY WHAT'S CALLED A GAP ANALYSIS. SO FOR THE 16 MINUTE PERIOD ALMOST 17 MILLION PERIOD STARTING AT 8:TEN ON MARCH 3RD, THEY FOUND THAT THERE WERE NINE GAPS RANGING FROM 13 SECONDS, 12 SECONDS, UP TO 29 SECONDS. AND THIS CHART SHOWS YOU THAT IT WOULD BE A GAP AND THEN A TIME PERIOD WHEN YOU COULD NOT CROSS AND THEN A GAP AND A TIME PERIOD. THESE GAPS ARE ONLY THOSE PERIODS WHEN THERE WOULD BE A SINGLE STAGE CROSSING OPPORTUNITY WHEN IT WAS CLEAR TO THE NORTH AND CLEAR TO THE SOUTH AND ONE COULD MAKE A SINGLE TURNING EVENT. SO IF THIS IS 15 ALMOST 16 MINUTES THERE ARE ALMOST FOUR OF THESE PER HOUR AND SO THERE'S MANY OPPORTUNITIES AGAIN WHEN PEOPLE COULD SAFELY FIND AN OPPORTUNITY TO CROSS. AND SO THE NEXT SLIDE JUST IDENTIFIES THAT THE GRAPHIC IS REALLY THOSE PERIODS WHEN BOTH DIRECTIONS ARE LIGHT, THAT THERE WERE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES [01:20:02] FOR SINGLE VEHICLE SINGLE STAGE CROSSINGS SO JUST ONE CAR BEING ABLE TO MAKE A SINGLE CROSSINGS BUT THERE WERE MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR TWO STAGE CROSSINGS WHERE PEOPLE MIGHT PAUSE IN THE MEDIAN. SO IN CONCLUSION WE REALLY CONFIRMED WITH THE SECOND OBSERVATION IN MARCH THAT THE SIDE STREET WHICH IS RADAR ROAD IS CONTROLLED BY THE PLATOON FROM THE SIGNAL TO THE NORTH AND THE SIGNAL TO THE SOUTH THAT THOSE SIGNALS ACT TO CREATE GAPS THAT MAKE IT POSSIBLE AND SAFE FOR PEOPLE TO EXIT THE PROPERTY FROM RADAR ROAD. AND SO WHILE WE FOUND THAT SOME EASTBOUND WEST TURNING VEHICLES COMING OUT OF THE APARTMENTS WILL INCUR OVER ONE MINUTE OF DELAY, OTHERS WILL INCUR ZERO DELAY AND THAT THAT WILL DEPEND ON WHERE THEY WILL ARRIVE IN THE CYCLE. IF THEY WERE SITTING AT A TURN SIGNAL TRAFFIC LIGHT TO THE NORTH THAT HAS A TWO MINUTE, HOW MUCH IS IT, I'M SORRY, A MINUTE AND 30 SECOND CYCLE. SO YOU WOULD WAIT AS LONG AT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AS YOU WOULD HERE TRYING TO TURN TO THE NORTH. THEY FOUND THERE WERE SUBSTANTIAL GAPS DURING EVERY SIGNAL PSYCH THAT WOULD ALLOW SIDE STREET VEHICLES IN SUMMARY WE ANTICIPATE THAT THIS WILL OPERATE THE SAME AS THE OTHER SIDE STREETS ON US-17 IN THE AREA. AND THAT WHEN THEY LOOKED A THE THE TRAFFIC DATA FOR THE -- AT THE TRAFFIC DATA FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS FOR UNSIGNALIZED OPENINGS IN THE AREA, THEY FOUND THAT THERE WERE FEWER THAN ONE CORRECTABLE CRASH PER YEAR IN ANY OF THOSE OPENINGS. SO WE FULLY EXPECT THIS TO HAVE THE SAME CHARACTERISTICS. SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF MR. CARLISLE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS. BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE REQUEST. >> MR. CHAIR, I HAVE A QUESTION IF I COULD. IT GOES BACK TO THAT SHEET THAT YOU SAID YOU WORKED WITH STAFF ON. I HAVE A QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO, IF CONSTRUCTED SAID ACCESS MAY BE SECURED TO LIMIT USE OF RESIDENTS, OR LIMITED USE TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT. WHEREABOUTS WOULD THAT PEDESTRIAN ACCESS BE -- >> WHEN WE LOOK AT IT IT WOULD LIKELY BE CLOSE TO THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE SO THAT RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY COULD PERHAPS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THE SITE PLAN OR IF YOU HAVE THAT IN YOUR PACKET. THERE'S BUILDING 1005 AND SO IT MIGHT BE THAT THAT SIDEWALK EXTENDS OUT TO THE BIKE TRAIL OR ALONG THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY. AND SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE PARTICULARLY PUT ON THE SITE PLAN YET BUT THEY WANT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER THAT IF IT BECOMES SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE AN AMENITY TO THE COMMUNITY. >> I'VE GOT THAT. I WAS CONCERNED THAT YOU WERE TRYING TO TIE THAT INTO THE SIDEWALK DOWN THE SOUTHERLY END. IF THAT WAS THE CASE, I'D HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT PARTICULAR SIDEWALK SHOULD BE OPEN TO ALL PEDESTRIANS. BUT I UNDERSTAND. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE DIRECTLY INTO THEIR COMPLEX THERE. SO IT WOULD NOT EFFECT THE GENERAL PUBLIC. >> YES. >> THIS IS CHARLES CARLISLE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES, SIR. >> GOOD. CHARLES CARLISLE, 1907 TOWNSEND BOULEVARD, FRANKLIN, TENNESSEE. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME JOIN YOU ALL THE WAY FROM TENNESSEE. JUST CONFIRMING WHAT SUSAN SAID THAT IS INDEED CORRECT THAT WE'D LIKELY WANT THIS UP TOWARD THE NORTHERN END OF THE SITE. AND ALSO JUST TO CONFIRM WE ARE VERY PLEASED WITH THE SOLUTION THAT WE REACHED TODAY REGARDING THE SIDEWALK. WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTRIBUTE THAT IN THE HOPES THAT RADAR ROAD WILL BE BUILT TO THE FULL ROAD SOONER THAN LATER. WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT. >> THANK YOU, MR. CARLISLE. ANYONE ELSE ON THE DEVELOPER SIDE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK? >> I COULD ADD ONE OTHER THING. JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR, I THINK I MENTIONED THIS AT THE FEBRUARY MEETING. WE WERE ALSO INTERESTED IN BEING SURE THAT WE COULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH THE ACCESS TO [01:25:05] US-17 WHEN WE FIRST GOT INVOLVED WITH THE PROPERTY BACK IN THE FALL. I THINK I MENTIONED THEN WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE FROM OUR COMPANY HERE TO LOOK AT IT IN PERSON AND WATCH TO SEE HOW THE ROAD OPERATES. BUT CERTAINLY DEFER TO THEIR EXPERTISE. SO WHILE WE WERE ALREADY COMFORTABLE, THIS GAP ANALYSIS THAT THEY PERFORMED SINCE THE LAST MEETING REALLY REINFORCES WHAT WE HAVE SEEN ON THE GROUND WHICH IS THAT THERE ARE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES IN PEAK HOURS TO MAKE THAT TURN ONTO THE HIGHWAY. AND SO JUST I THINK MAKES US EVEN MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS DECISION. >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS TO MR. CARLISLE OR HIS REP? >> NOT AT THIS TIME. >> ALL RIGHT. WE WILL GO INTO PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS POINT IN TIME. TROY, DO WE HAVE ANYONE FOR PUBLIC HEARING? >> THE ONLY OTHER ONE WE HAVE. >> JERRY, YOU GOT ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD, SIR? >> STAR SIX, JERRY. >> STAR SIX, JERRY, AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU. DID YOU PUNCH STAR SIX? OKAY WELL SO MUCH FOR HIM THEN. ANYONE ELSE ON PUBLIC HEARING? >> THERE WAS NO ONE ELSE, SIR. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD THEN FOR ANY WRAP UP OR FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. >> SO WHAT ARE WE CONSIDERING TO BE THE TRAFFIC POINT. >> WE HAVE THE ALTERNATE PLAN AND WE HAVE A GRAPHIC THAT WE COULD SHOW. TROY, DO YOU HAVE THAT GRAPHIC? >> YES, SIR. JUST ONE SECOND. >> OKAY SO DALE AND I TOOK A LOOK AT THIS AS AN ALTERNATE PLAN TO TEMPORARILY CONNECT RADAR ROAD TO TOWN CENTER BOULEVARD. THE GRAPHIC THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU SHOWS THE PARK TO THE SOUTH. FLEMING ISLAND LIBRARY TO THE NORTH. AND JUST TO THE SOUTHERN PART OF THERE, THERE'S A PARKING LOT AND AN ACCESS WAY THROUGH THE PROPERTY THAT CONNECTS BOTH RADAR ROAD OR DIRT ROAD REALLY AT THIS POINT, RADAR DIRT ROAD TO THE PARKING LOT. SO IF YOU SEE HE'S INDICATED THERE WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO PAVE THE REMAINING PART OF RADAR ROAD THERE TO THAT ACCESS AND IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE PARKING LOT OF THE LIBRARY. THIS ACCESS WOULD BE ONE WAY. AND IT WOULD BE HEADING WEST FOR EXITING PARTICULARLY IN THOSE HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS. THOSE RESIDENTS THAT ARE LIVING IN THAT AREA COULD PROCEED TO TOWN CENTER BOULEVARD, PROCEED EITHER NORTH OR SOUTH, HIT EITHER ROAD AND OBVIOUSLY HEAD EAST TO A LIGHT THAT WOULD CONNECT THEM TO 17 THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO FLOW NORTH. IN THIS CASE HERE, IF YOU'RE HEADING NORTH AND YOUR DESIRE WAS TO HEAD NORTH ON HIGHWAY 17, YOU'D PROCEED THROUGH THIS ALTERNATE PATH ONE WAY AND HIT TOWN CENTER BOULEVARD, TURN NORTH, PROCEED TO TOWN CENTER PARKWAY, MAKE A RIGHT OR EAST AND CONNECT TO 17 WHERE THERE IS A LIGHT. SO LOOKING AT THIS THIS WOULD BE THE PROPOSAL AT LEAST FOR A TEMPORARY FIX FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA UNTIL WE CAN FIGURE OUT AND MAKE A CONNECTION TO THIS OVAL ROUND-ABOUT AND MAKE A DECISION WITH REGARD TO THE PONDS, THE PARK, AND THE OVAL ROUND-ABOUT. ANY QUESTIONS? >> DO WE HAVE AN IDEA AS TO WHAT [01:30:05] THE LONG TERM PLAN WILL LOOK LIKE? >> THE LONG TERM FIX WOULD ALSO INCLUDE TOWN CENTER BOULEVARD OF REMOVING THE OVAL ROUND-ABOUT AND CONNECTING WHERE IT'S HASH MARKED ALL THE WAY TO TOWN CENTER BOULEVARD AND CONNECT SO THAT INDIVIDUALS COULD TURN RIGHT OR LEFT FROM THERE. THERE'S CHALLENGES OBVIOUSLY WITH THAT. >> AND WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME LOOK LIKE ON THAT. >> DALE, WHAT DID YOU FIGURE OUT? >> WELL WHAT WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW IS WE'VE APPLIED FOR A GRANT FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO HELP US FUND IT. IT'S CURRENTLY ON THE TPO'S LIST. IT WAS UP FOR CONSIDERATION LAST YEAR. WE WILL KEEP APPLYING FOR IT UNTIL WE GET THE PROJECT FUNDED. SO IT MAY BE 3 OR 4 YEARS OUT BEFORE THERE'S ACTUALLY FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT. >> WHAT KIND OF MONEY ARE WE LOOKING AT? >> SOMEWHERE AROUND 3.5, $4 MILLION. >> AND WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME ON THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IF WE GIVE IT A GREEN LIGHT NOW? >> I CAN HAVE THE ROAD READY IN PLACE FOR THE APARTMENTS. IT'S A SHORT ENOUGH PIECE THAT I CAN PROBABLY HANDLE THAT LITTLE BIT OF ROADWAY IN HOUSE AND THEN THERE WILL BE QUITE A BIT OF SIGNING ON THE LIBRARY PROPERTY TO DIRECT PEOPLE PROPERLY SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I CAN DO WITH MY FORCES. JAMES HOUSEHOLDER HAD ALREADY ASKED ME TO MILL THIS PORTION OF RADAR ROAD BECAUSE THEY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES. THAT'S WHY IF YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE GRAPHIC I HAD PART OF IT BEING MIDDLE SO WE HAD PLANNED ON ALREADY GOING IN THERE AND PUTTING SOME MILLINGS IN THERE TO PROVIDE THAT SORT OF TRAFFIC. BUT WE DECIDED WITH THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING THERE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE A MILLING ROAD BUT WE WILL BUILD A NORMAL ROAD WITH SIX INCHES OF LYME ROCK IN IT AND THEN DO THE MILLING. SO IT'S WORK THAT WE HAD ALREADY PLANNED. IF WE GET THE $4 MILLION WE CAN CONTINUE ROUGHLY FROM THE DRIVEWAY, THE ENTRANCE STRAIGHT ON OUT AND NOT WASTE THAT CONSTRUCTION PIECE, RIGHT? >> THAT'S RIGHT. BECAUSE WE'RE BUILDING A 24-FOOT WIDE ROADWAY AND IT'S GOING TO COME IN JUST A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF THE OVAL AND THE DRIVEWAY TO THE WASTE WATER TREATMENT PLANT ON THE OTHER SIDE WILL BE REALIGNED SO WE END UP WITH A T INTERSECTION. AND THEN SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE MEDIAN OPENINGS ON TOWN CENTER. >> AND SO WE ANTICIPATE THIS TO BE IN IN ABOUT TWO YEARS AND THEN TWO YEARS IN TEMPORARY SERVICE AND THEN WE'D BE READY TO BUILD THE FINAL SOLUTION IF EVERYTHING GOES AS PLANNED? >> IF EVERYTHING GOES PERFECT IF WE GET THE FUNDING, YES, SIR. >> AND HOWARD, WE DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE NO LEFT TURN. IS THAT FEASIBLE? >> SO DALE, THERE WAS A CONNECTION WITH REGARDS TO ANALYSIS OF RADAR ROAD THAT FDOT WAS INCLUDING IN THEIR STUDY. CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT TOO? >> YES, SIR. THE TPO WAS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION WITH THE CONNECTION OF RADAR ROAD. IT IS IN THEIR PLAN. AND CURRENTLY THE WALTMAN GROUP IS THE ENGINEERS LOOKING AT A TRIPLE R ON 17. AND PART OF THEIR TRIPLE R IS THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE INTERSECTIONS OF WARNER ROAD, EAST WEST PARKWAY, COUNTY ROAD 220, AND EAGLE HARPER PARKWAY. AND I'VE ASKED THEM TO WORK WITH THEIR PROJECT MANAGER FROM D.O.T. TO SEE IF THEY COULD NOT AT LEAST DO THE TRAFFIC COUNTS AND THE STUDIES TO INCLUDE THAT CONNECTION OF RADAR ROAD TO SEE IF IT TRULY DOES TAKE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC OFF OF THE TWO INTERSECTIONS TO THE NORTH IF IT IS CONNECTED ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO TOWN CENTER WITH THE NORMAL 2 LANE ROAD THAT WOULD ALLOW TRAFFIC TO FLOW BOTH WAYS. >> THE FINAL KIND OF ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT SUSAN FREDERICK JUST PRESENTED US WITH THE NUMBERS BETWEEN 6 AND 8, 6 AND 9:00 A.M. THAT A RIGHT HAND TURN ONLY WOULD BE AN OPTION TO USE TO PREVENT ACCIDENTS OF [01:35:03] THOSE TURNING LEFT AND WANTING TO HEAD NORTH. >> YEAH, I WANT TO SEE THE PROJECT RECEIPT BUT I ALSO HAD A MEETING IN THERE THE OTHER DAY AT THE CHURCH AND I HAD A HECK OF A TIME GETTING OUT OF THERE. AND I WAS TRYING TO GO NORTH ON 17 AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT TOOK ME AND IT WAS NOT FUN. SO I'M AWARE THAT THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM WHATEVER THE 2018 DATA SAYS THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS BASED ON, I REMEMBER WHEN WE COULD GET OUT ON THAT AND THERE'S NO WAY ANYMORE. AND 17 THEY'RE BUILDING A WHOLE NEW SWATH OF HOMES IN THERE, THAT'S GOING TO BE JUST JAMMED TIGHT BEFORE LONG. >> YEAH. >> GO AHEAD. >> IT'S NOT MY DISTRICT SO I OBVIOUSLY DEFER GREATLY TO COMMISSIONER CELLA. BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO FIT A SQUARE PEG IN A ROUND HOLE OR WHATEVER THE EXPRESSION IS. IT JUST DOESN'T, WE TALKED ABOUT SMART GROWTH. AND $4 MILLION, ARE WE GOING TO GET THAT MUCH IN REVENUE, HOW LONG IS THAT GOING TO TAKE TO PAY ITSELF BACK? IT SEEMS LIKE, I DON'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME THE FUNDING ADVISORY BOARD DIDN'T AGREE WITH A DECISION WE WERE MAKING SO I WOULD BE VERY HESITANT. I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS AT THIS TIME, I'LL JUST SAY THAT. >> OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? >> MR. CHAIRMA, IF I COULD IN TERMS OF EVEN THAT TEMPORARY SET UP, DO WE HAVE AN IDEA AS TO WHAT THE NUMBER OF CARS THAT WOULD BE UTILIZING THAT. AND IN SOME RESPECTS I'M WONDERING WITH A TEMPORARY ROADWAY WITH THAT, WE'RE NOT TRANSFERRING THE PROBLEM FROM 17 TO THE LIBRARY. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE USING THAT TEMPORARY ROAD TO DRIVE TO THE WEST AND THEN EXIT THE LIBRARY PARKING LOT TO GET TO TOWN CENTER TO GO LEFT OR RIGHT OUT OF THE PARKING LOT TO GO EITHER SOUTH ON TOWN CENTER OR NORTH ON TOWN CENTER, IS THAT THE GENERAL DRIFT? >> YES, SIR. >> DALE, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS IN TERMS OF, MY BIG PROBLEM HERE IS THAT THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT I THINK IN TERMS OF THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION, THEY VOTED 6-1. IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT HE DIDN'T THINK WOULD FIT THE AREA AND BE SOMETHING THAT WAS ABLE TO BE FITTED THERE, IT WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN HIS VOTE. BUT MY FEELING IS THAT WE, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, WE SIMPLY PULL OUT ON THE RIGHT SIDE AND IT'S UP TO ME TO MAKE SURE WE WORK HARD TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF FUNDING TO GET PEOPLE OUT ON A REGULAR ROAD. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS WE DO A TEMPORARY ROAD. WE'RE ACTUALLY DRIVING BY PART OF THE PARK THERE AND I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THAT'S A, IF IT'S NOT A FULL OUTLET WHETHER THAT'S THE WAY TO GO WITH THAT ROAD. >> YEAH. I LIKE THE PROJECT. I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT ON US TO FIX RADAR ROAD, RIGHT, IF WE'RE BEGINNING TO GO AHEAD WITH IT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH UT P -- PUTTING IT IN TEMPORARY. BUT WE'RE GOING TO KILL PEOPLE IF WE HAVE A LEFT TURN OUT OF THERE. THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NO MATTER WHAT WE BUILD IN THERE. BUT I THINK WE OWE IT TO SOMEBODY TO TRY TO GET THAT ROAD FIXED RIGHT. THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM. IF WE CANNOT FIX IT AT ALL IN THE FUTURE, $4 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY, YEAH. BUT THIS IS ALSO I THINK IT'S GOING TO GET USED FOR A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER STUFF BESIDES JUST THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX. IT'S A GREAT CUT THROUGH AND FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN IT WILL GET FILLED UP PRETTY QUICK. >> THERE'S NO QUESTION I THINK THAT THAT ROAD SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT IN YEARS AGO. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PETE DAVIS AND THE FLEMING ISLAND ADVISORY COUNCIL AGREES WITH THAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT IN A LONG TIME AGO. LIKE I SAID I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT AND IN SOME CASES WE CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS, WE CAN FIX ROADS, WE CAN'T FIX BAD DRIVERS. SO IN SOME CASES THERE IS A 2 WAY STREET THERE. BUT IT'S A GOOD PROJECT, GOOD LOCATION FOR THIS TYPE OF [01:40:04] PROJECT IN THE COMMUNITY. IT'S A LIGHTHOUSE AND ABOVE IN TERMS OF QUALITY. THAT DOES MAKE ME PAUSE A LITTLE. I THINK WE CAN FIX THE TRAFFIC. IT WILL PROBABLY BE 2 TO 3 YEARS BEFORE WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING BEFORE SOMEBODY LIVES THERE THEN IT'S REALLY UP TO US TO MAKE SURE THAT IT HAPPENS. SO THAT'S WHERE WE SORT OF ARE WITH THIS I THINK. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MIGHT MAKE A COMMENT. >> YES, GO AHEAD. >> THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I LIVE IN IS RIGHT OFF 17. AND I HAVE TO CROSS AT LEAST FOUR LANES OF TRAFFIC IF I'M GOING TO TURN SOUTH ON 17 WHICH I REALIZE IS A DIFFERENT BETWEEN NORTH AND SOUTH. BUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS ABOUT THE SAME SIZE NUMBER OF HOMES AS THIS COMPLEX. I WOULD SUGGEST WE HAVE A LOT MORE BEDROOMS SINCE WE'RE NOT APARTMENTS, WHICH MEANS WE PROBABLY HAVE A LOT MORE DRIVERS AND I CAN'T TELL YOU BUT MAYBE 2 OR 3 TIMES THAT THERE'S BEEN MORE THAN 2 OR 3 CARS. FREQUENTLY TWO CARS, RARELY THREE CARS WAITING TO GET OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT THE SAME TIME. AND WITH THE BREAK IN THE LIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF BLACK CREEK BRIDGE AND THE BREAK IN THE LIGHT, THOSE TWO GIVE US PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES TO GET OUT ON THE ROAD. I'M JUST SPEAKING FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. I DO THINK WE NEED RADAR ROAD, AND I HAVE FELT THAT WAY FOR A LONG TIME, THE MORE CONGESTED EAST WEST PARKWAY GETS THE MORE THAT ROAD BECOMES MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY COULD RELIEVE SOME OF THAT CONGESTION. >> I'VE GOT A FEELING THAT WHATEVER WE DO HERE TONIGHT AT SOME POINT IN TIME RADAR ROAD IS GOING TO BE A PERMANENT THOROUGHFARE OVER TO GOING WEST. SO I'M NOT SURE THAT THINKING THAT WE'LL KEEP RADAR ROAD CLOSED PERMANENTLY IS A GOING TO FLY. THIS IS A GOOD SOLUTION FOR FIXING IT. THERE MAY BE SOME CONGESTION ON 17 AS COMMISSIONER BOLLA HAS STATED. BUT I THINK GIVEN EVERYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD AND SEEN I WOULD TEND TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. THAT'S MY OPINION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSION? IF NOT WE NEED TO SETTLE THIS AND MOVE ON. SO COMMISSIONER CELLA, THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT. YOU HAVE THE PLEASURE ON IT. >> WELL I THINK THE OTHER FACTOR THAT SORT OF RIDES WITH ME ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS THAT THE BAPTIST HOSPITAL WOULD BE BUILT JUST DOWN THE STREET. AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR A NUMBER OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE WORKING AT THE HOSPITAL, AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT HIGH-END SALARIED PEOPLE BUT YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF TRANSPORTERS, YOU'VE GOT CNA'S, YOU'VE GOT A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WILL WORK IN THE HOSPITAL THAT THESE APARTMENTS ARE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE TO. AND I JUST THINK WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT KEEPING PEOPLE CLOSE TO WHERE THEY WORK SO THAT WE DON'T JAM UP ROADS AND THEY ACTUALLY ARE A SHORT BICYCLE RIDE AWAY FROM WHERE THE HOSPITAL IS GOING TO BE. SO I WOULD SAY I'D LIKE TO MOVE IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT BUT AT THE SAME TIME MAKE A COMMITMENT TO EXAMINE ALL OPPORTUNITIES TO FIX RADAR ROAD AND MAKE THAT ANOTHER ALTERNATE TO EAST WEST PARKWAY GOING EAST WEST FROM 17 TO TOWN CENTER BOULEVARD WHICH AS EVERYBODY HAS INDICATED ALREADY IS PROBABLY LONG OVERDUE. SO I WOULD MOVE IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT AT THIS TIME. >> OKAY, IF YOU WOULD HOLD THAT MOTION, COMMISSIONER CELLA, I FORGOT THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO HAS ANYONE CALLED IN TO SPEAK FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WE NEED TO LISTEN TO? TROY? TROY? NO ONE FOR PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING -- TROY?P>> NO, THERE'S COMMENT. >> ALL RIGHT, THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION IS CLOSED. WE'LL GO BACK IN CONTINGENT WITH COMMISSIONER CELLA WHO IF I'M CORRECT MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT. IS THAT CORRECT, MR. CELLA? >> YES, IT IS. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> I'LL SECOND. >> THERE'S A MOTION AND A [01:45:03] SECOND. I WILL GO WITH ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> NO. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> YES. >> AND COMMISSIONER HENDRY WOULD VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. SO THE MOTION PASSES, THANK YOU. WE NEED TO, I'VE BEEN PASSED A NOTE BY THE COUNTY MANAGER, I'M SORRY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, WE NEED TO GO BACK AND ADDRESS ITEM 41 AGAIN IN REGARDS TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ELEMENT. THAT HAD TWO PARTS BASICALLY. WE PASSED THE FIRST PART BUT WE DO NEED APPROVAL ON RESOLUTIONS AMENDING THIS PLAN FOR, WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO US, PLEASE MA'AM. >> I DON'T KNOW IF OLGA IS ONLINE. >> OLGA? >> WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON HER, THE PURPOSE FOR THE RESOLUTION WAS TO AMEND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN RESERVES WHICH IS TO ESTABLISH THE FUNDING FOR TECHNOLOGY AID TO THE SCHOOL BOARD. AS YOU MAY RECALL THE BOARD PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ALLOCATION OF 1.6 MILLION AND WE HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH ENTRY INTO THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND THIS IS JUST TO PROVIDE FOR THE BUDGET. >> AND IF I CAN ADD, CAN YOU SEE ME? >> YES, GO AHEAD. >> AND WE'RE ALSO FOR FISCAL YEAR 18-19 WITH WHAT IS CURRENTLY RECORDED IN OUR FINANCIAL REPORT. IN ADDITION TO THIS SCHOOL BOARD AID. >> OKAY. QUESTIONS FOR MS. RABEL OR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY? OKAY, FOLKS, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON THIS SECOND PART OF ITEM 41? >> MR. CHAIRMAN I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION IMPROVING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN RESERVES. >> I'LL SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. AND ROLL CALL WILL BE COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> AYE. >> AND THE COMMISSIONER HENDRY VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY WE CAN NOW GO BACK TO OUR NEW BUSINESS. [31.  Budget Resolution - Utility Service Charges for Fairground Rentals (O. Rabel)] I THINK WE ENDED ON ITEM 30 SO WE WILL BE NOW TAKING UP ITEM 31. UTILITY SERVICE CHARGES FOR FAIRGROUND RENTALS. OLGA, ARE YOU STILL WITH US? >> YES I AM AND HOPEFULLY YOU CAN STILL HEAR ME. >> TELL US WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. >> WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING THE REVENUE FOR THAT SERVICE WHERE THEY REIMBURSE US AND INCREASING THE SERVICE FOR THE PARKS AND REC. THE PARKS AND REC WAS ABSORBING THE UTILITIES AND NOT GETTING PROPERLY REIMBURSED FOR IT. >> HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN THE PROCEDURE THAT WE NOW HAVE, OLGA, WHERE THEY ARE REIMBURSING US FOR UTILITY USE? >> RIGHT NOW THIS IS JUST THE ACCOUNTING AND ESTABLISHING THE BUDGET, AND NOW FOR TRACKING PURPOSES AND TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH THE SERVICE COSTS US AND ESTABLISHING THE TRACKING OPPORTUNITIES. >> I UNDERSTAND. ALL RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR OLGA FROM THE COMMISSION? IS THERE A MOTION? >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. WE GO TO ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> AYE. >> AND COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> YES. >> AND COMMISSIONER HENDRY VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. THANK YOU, SO DONE. [32.  Budget Resolution - EMS County Grant (O. Rabel)] ALL RIGHT MOVING ON TO ITEM 32 BUDGET RESOLUTION-EMS COUNTY GRANT. OLGA, YOU WANT TO TELL US ABOUT THIS GRANT. >> WE JUST RECENTLY RECEIVED AND ACCEPTED THE GRANT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL [01:50:02] SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $19,797. THEY WERE LOOKING TO PURCHASE FOR A LONG TIME AND NOW THEY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY FOR THE EQUIPMENT WITHOUT USING COUNTY SUPPORT. >> VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS? >> WHAT KIND OF EQUIPMENT? >> I BELIEVE IT'S A LIFE VAC. >> IT IS. OKAY. THE BOARD'S PLEASURE. >> I MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER CELLA AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOLLA. WE'LL GO TO ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> AYE. >> AND COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> AYE. [33.  Approval of Updated Investment Policy Board of County Commissioners of Clay County, Florida (D. Sileo)] >> AND COMMISSIONER HENDRY VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. MOVING ON TO ITEM 33. APPROVAL OF UPDATED INVESTMENT POLICY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER. WHO'S GOING TO TAKE THIS? OLGA? OR DEBBIE ARE YOU WITH US, THANK YOU GO AHEAD. >> GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. WE HAVE WORKED WITH PFM, OUR FINANCIAL ADVISER RELATED TO OUR BONDING TO UPDATE OUR INVESTMENT POLICY WHICH HAD NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2008. SO WE ARE SEEKING APPROVAL. I HAVE SCOTT STITCHER ON THE LINE FROM PFM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS DIRECTLY RELATED TO WHAT THEIR PLAN IS. >> SO THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS WAS 2008? >> THAT'S CORRECT. AND BASICALLY THEY JUST MADE SIMPLE REVISIONS TO ALLOW FOR INVESTING IN U.S. TREASURIES AND THAT TYPE OF AN INVESTMENT. >> MY QUESTION IS CAN THAT MAKE US MORE MONEY? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO HEAR. >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION. >> YES. >> YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW THE ANSWER BUT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT BUT I'D STILL LIKE TO AT SOME POINT HAVE THE COMPANY GET BACK TO US. IF ANY OF THESE PENSION PLANS ARE ALLOWED TO INVEST IN CHINESE COMMUNIST OWNED COMPANIES BECAUSE THIS IS LIKE A BILL SENATOR RUBIO, A BIPARTISAN BILL HE SPONSORED MADE IT WHERE FEDERAL PENSION PLANS WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE INVESTED IN INDEX FUNDS RELATED TO, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME OF THESE COMPANIES THEY'RE NOT JUST CHINESE COMPANIES, THEY'RE OWNED BY THE COMMUNIST PARTY. AND SO I DON'T WANT TAXPAYER FUNDING GOING TO THE COMMUNIST PARTY OF CHINA. SO I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK INTO THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT'S NOT HAPPENING. AND IF SO, WE NEED TO RECTIFY THAT. >> SCOTT, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? >> I AM. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE WITH YOU ALL THIS AFTERNOON. I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THE POLICY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO DOES NOT COVER ANY OF THE PENSION ASSETS, IT'S STRICTLY OPERATING MONEY AND IN THIS CASE WE'RE REALLY SPEAKING TO THE MOST RECENTISH ISSUANCE OF THE 2020 BONDS. BE ASSURED THAT NONE OF THESE WOULD BE SUPPORTING COMMUNIST CHINA. THE ENHANCEMENTS WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO THE POLICY ARE AS DEBBIE MENTIONED FOR U.S. TREASURIES AS WELL AS UNITED STATES AGENCY SECURITIES. ALL VERY LIQUID, VERY HIGH QUALITY. AGAIN HAVING NOTHING TO DO WITH CHINA IN THIS CASE. >> THANK YOU. AND THANKS FOR CLARIFYING THAT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE CASE BUT I JUST WANTED TO BE CAREFUL. I JUST READ A BOOK AND IT'S SCARY. THERE WAS A BOND THAT WAS FLOATED THROUGH A HONG KONG INDEX THAT BASICALLY U.S. INVESTORS ENDED UP HELPING FUND A CHINESE CARRIER WHICH IS JUST INSANE. SO I WANT US TO BE AWARE AND CAREFUL IN OUR DECISIONS THAT WE'RE NOT THROUGH SHELL GAMES AND THROUGH SHIFTING OF FUNDS AND MULTINATIONAL INVESTMENTS SOMEHOW FUNDING OUR OWN DEMISE AS A COUNTRY. >> RIGHT. RIGHT. >> COULD YOU TALK ABOUT HOW YOU GET PAID? >> SURE. THERE IS A SEPARATE AGREEMENT, A SEPARATE FEE AGREEMENT THAT WE ARE PAID UNDER FOR A SEPARATELY [01:55:04] MANAGED PORTFOLIO. CURRENTLY WE ARE NOT MANAGING THE MONEY IN THAT FASHION. THAT'S REALLY THE REASON BEHIND THE UPDATING OF THE INVESTMENT POLICY. ONCE THE POLICY ALLOWS TREASURY AND AGENCY SECURITIES WE WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO CREATE A SEPARATELY MANAGED PORTFOLIO AND AGAIN THERE'S A FEE STRUCTURE TIED TO THAT BASED ON ASSETS UNDER MANAGEMENT. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THOUGH TODAY THE MONEY SITS WITHIN A WHAT'S CALLED A LOCAL GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT POOL WHICH IS BASICALLY THE EQUIVALENT OF A MONEY MARKET FUND AND THAT POOL CARRIES A, WHAT'S BASICALLY CALLED AN EXPENSE RATIO. THERE'S AN UNDERLYING FEE IN THAT RATIO. THE YIELD PAY TO YOU IS PAID NET OF ANY UNDERLYING EXPENSES OF THAT POOL. SO TODAY AS THE INVESTMENTS STAND, THE COUNTY IS NOT EVEN REALLY WRITING A CHECK TO PAY US. OUR FEE IS COLLECTED NET OF THAT YIELD PAY TO YOU IN THIS POOL. OKAY. SO THAT'S THE ARRANGEMENT TODAY. WHEN THE MARKETS NORMALIZE AND THE POLICY IS UPDATED AND IT MAKES SENSE TO CREATE THIS SEPARATELY MANAGED PORTFOLIO, THERE IS A FEE STRUCTURE AND I CAN PROVIDE THAT IF YOU LIKE. BUT IT WAS AGAIN PART OF ITEM 12 THAT YOU VOTED ON EARLIER WAS THE INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. AND IN THAT AGREEMENT YOU'LL FIND THE FEE SCHEDULE AS THE INITIAL $25 MILLION CARRIES A FEE OF TEN BASIS POINTS OR .1%. THE NEXT 25 MILLION CARRIED .08%. THE NEXT 50 MILLION IS BUILD AT SEVEN BASIS POINTS OR .07%. AND THEN ANYTHING ABOVE 100 MILLION IS BUILD AT SIX BASIS POINTS OR .06%. SO IN THIS CASE THERE IS $129 MILLION ROUGHLY IN ASSETS UNDER MANAGEMENT OR THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE UNDER MANAGEMENT. SO ON A PORTFOLIO OF 129 MILLION THAT FEE WOULD EQUATE ROUGHLY TO $97,000 ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. NOW AND THAT EQUATES TO EIGHT BASIS POINTS OR .08%. THE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT MONEY WILL BE SPENT DOWN OVERTIME AND THEREFORE THAT FEE REALLY DROPS OVERTIME AS WELL. THE FEE OR MONEY COLLECTED BY US OVERTIME DROPS AS WELL. SO THAT'S A VERY LONG WINDED ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. BUT I HOPE THAT PROVIDES SOME CLARITY ON HOW WE'RE PAID UNDER THIS ARRANGEMENT. >> I JUST WANTED TO ASK AND THE LAST POINT IS DID WE, ARE WE ABLE TO INVEST IN GOVERNMENT SECURITIES TODAY? >> AS OF TODAY, WELL LET'S JUST SAY AS OF TODAY AFTER YOUR VOTE THE ANSWER WOULD BE YES. BUT AS THE WAY THE POLICY READS, BEFORE YOUR VOTE, NO, YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO INVEST IN U.S. TREASURIES OR AGENCIES THE WAY THE POLICY READS TODAY. >> WOW. OKAY. >> VERY CONSERVATIVE. >> THERE WAS A FUND THAT THE STATE OF FLORIDA RAN. I WAS ON THE SCHOOL BOARD AND IT WENT BANKRUPT ESSENTIALLY AND THEY DID A BAILOUT ON IT. AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE IN THAT AGAIN. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? DEBBIE, WE THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. ONE QUICK QUESTION, IS THAT A LIVE FLOWER IN THE BACK OF YOUR LIVING ROOM OR ARTIFICIAL? >> IT'S ABSOLUTELY LIVE. IT'S AN ORCHID, I GROW ORCHIDS. >> THAT'S AN OUTSTANDING PLANT, CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. BOARD'S PLEASURE. >> I MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE WILL GO TO ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> YES. >> AND THE CHAIRMAN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM WHICH [34.  Restrictive Covenants related to the Historical Courthouse Restoration Line Item Funding Project (K. Thomas)] IS 34, THE NEED TO HAVE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS RELATED TO [02:00:05] THE HISTORICAL COURTHOUSE RESTORATION. KAREN? >> YES, SIR. THIS IS RELATED TO THE FUNDING AGREEMENT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE STATE. $250,000 FOR THE RESTORATION OF THE COURTHOUSE. THE DEPARTMENT OF HISTORICAL RESOURCES REALIZES -- SO THEY'RE ASKING THAT WE FIND THIS AS A SEPARATE DOCUMENT AND IT BASICALLY STATES OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS, WE WILL MAINTAIN THAT SITE AS A HISTORICAL SITE. ANY IMPROVEMENTS OR RESTORING THAT WE DO WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH THE SITE BEING CONSIDERED HISTORICALLY. >> THIS MAY BE ONE ITEM WE HAVE NO QUESTIONS ON. ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ONE? OKAY. YOUR PLEASURE. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 34. >> ALL RIGHT, IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> GAVIN, DID YOU SECOND THAT? >> YEAH, I MOVE TO APPROVE OR SECOND. I'LL SECOND IT. >> MAKE IT A SECOND THEN AND WE'VE GOT A ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> YES. >> AND COMMISSIONER HENDRY VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. SO DONE. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, KAREN. UP TO ITEM 35 RESIDENCE [35.  Residence Agreement-Black Creek Ravines Conservation Area Property (J. Householder)] AGREEMENT FOR BLACK CREEK RAVINES CONSERVATION AREA PROPERTY. JAMES HOUSEHOLDER ARE YOU WITH US? >> YES, SIR. >> GO AHEAD AND SPEAK TO US. >> THE MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE RAVINES CONSERVATION AREA CALLS FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A SECURITY RESIDENCE. THIS HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR MANY YEARS. THIS ITEM IS SIMPLY THE ANNUAL RENEWAL FOR THE AGREEMENT IN BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE DEPUTY WHO LIVES ON THE PROPERTY. THERE'S NO COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS AGREEMENT FOR THE COUNTY. >> OKAY. IS THAT THE RELATIONSHIP WE'VE AD WITH THE SHERIFFS OFFICE HAS WORKED WELL, NO PROBLEMS? >> YES, SIR. >> OKAY. >> I'LL MOVE APPROVAL WITH, MR. CHAIRMAN, IT'S YOUR DISTRICT, RIGHT? I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE APPROVAL. >> YOU'RE IN GOOD STANDING. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> YES. >> AND COMMISSIONER HENDRY VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO DONE. [36.  Modification #1 to Agreement No. 2017/2018-23 with the Florida Division of Emergency Management (Hazmat Training) (J. Ward)] MOVING ON TO ITEM 36 MODIFICATION NUMBER ONE TO AGREEMENT THE FLORIDA DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, JOHN WARD, ARE YOU WITH US? >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT FOR JOHN. >> VERY GOOD. GOOD TO HAVE YOU ABOARD, WE MISS YOU. >> I'M HAPPY TO BE WITH EVERYONE. >> REST ASSURED YOUR OFFICE IS BEING WELL USED. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. >> ONLY PROBLEM YOU HAVE NO CHOCOLATE YET, I'LL TELL YOU. >> I'LL TAKE THAT UNDER CONSIDERATION. >> GO AHEAD, CHIEF. >> THE AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS A STATE HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT THAFLS AWARDED IN 2018. IT INVOLVES $29,595.69 FOR THE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS TEAM TO DO TRAINING. BEFORE THEY COULD CONDUCT THAT TRAINING THE AGREEMENT TIME FRAME EXPIRED AND THIS IS AN AGREEMENT WORKING WITH THE STATE TO REAUTHORIZE THAT SO THAT TRAINING COULD BE CONDUCTED. NOW HAVING SAID THAT, THE PLAN THREE MONTHS AGO LOOKED PRETTY GOOD TO DO THAT ON OR BEFORE JUNE 30TH. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD APPROVES THIS AS IT IS AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH THE STATE TO DO ANOTHER AGREEMENT AMENDMENT THAT WOULD EXTEND IT BEYOND THAT TIME SO THAT WE IN THEORY COULD GET THAT TRAINING IN AT SOME POINT AFTER THE CURRENT EMERGENCY AS SOMEONE MITIGATED. >> VERY WELL. COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS? YOUR PLEASURE. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT. GO TO ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> AYE. >> AND COMMISSIONER HENDRY VOTES IN AFFIRMATIVE. THANK YOU, CHIEF. COME BACK AND SEE US SOMETIMES. BRING MORE CANDY, YOU'RE OUT. >> WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN? >> MR. CHAIRMAN, DID WE NEED TO APPROVE THE ATTACHED BUDGET RESOLUTION ALSO? [02:05:01] >> ATTACHED BUDGET RESOLUTION ALSO REQUESTED. >> YES, WE DO. >> YES WE DO, OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE ATTACHED BUDGET RESOLUTION? >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> GO TO ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> AYE. >> AND COMMISSIONER HENDRY VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. THANKS AGAIN, CHIEF. STAY WELL. THANK YOU FOR CALLING THAT TO MY ATTENTION, I DIDN'T SEE THAT LAST SENTENCE TACKED ON THERE. [37.  Upcoming RFPs (K. Thomas)] ITEM 37 UPCOMING RFP'S. KAREN? >> YES, SIR. THIS IS JUST TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE AT A RECENT BOARD MEETING, WE HAD DISCUSSED TWO RFP'S THAT THE BOARD WISHED THAT WE HAD PUT OUT TO BID TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY INTEREST IN THESE SERVICES AND THE FIRST ONE AND THE LEAD AGENCY TO PROVIDE COORDINATION OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. RIGHT NOW THAT'S BEING PROVIDED BY THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. THEIR CONTRACT EXPIRES 9/30/2020. SO WE ARE DRAFTING NOW THE WORK FOR THIS RFP AND THAT WOULD GO OUT IN MAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? >> GO AHEAD. >> GOING ON TO THE SECOND ONE IS THE RFP FOR PROFESSIONAL LOBBYING SERVICES THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING PROVIDED BY THE FIORENTINO GROUP. WE DID A SEVEN MONTH EXTENSION RECENTLY SO THAT CONTRACT WILL EXPIRE APRIL 30, 2020. WE DO HAVE A DRAFT RFP READY FOR THE END OF THIS MONTH. THE ONLY THING I WANT TO POINT OUT ON THIS AGREEMENT IS THAT WHEN WE SET THE EXPIRATION DATE AND WE BROUGH THIS TO THE BOARD WE HAD ANTICIPATED THAT THE STATE WOULD BE FURTHER ALONG ON THEIR DETAILED APPROVAL OF THE STATE BUDGET PROCESS AND WE CURRENTLY DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WILL TAKE PLACE BUT HOPEFULLY BEFORE JULY 1ST. BUT IF NO CHANGE IN PLANS WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH PUTTING OUT THE NEW RFP. >> HOW LONG HAS THE OLD ONE BEEN IN PLACE, KAREN? >> FOR THREE YEARS. >> I'M HAPPY WITH THE GROUP BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO BID IT JUST EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS JUST TO KEEP EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE HERE. >> YES, SIR. >> DO WE HAVE A LIST OF THINGS WE'RE INTERESTED IN THEM PURSUING FOR THE RFQ HERE. >> WE DO. IT'S PART OF OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES THAT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE WILL GET FUNDED THIS YEAR. >> I REMEMBER READING ALL OF THOSE SUBMITTALS AND IT WAS BASICALLY BASED ON WHAT WE HAD ASKED FOR THAT I EVALUATED ON THEM ON BECAUSE I WANTED TO SEE HOW THEY WOULD ADDRESS EACH THING AND HALF OF THEM DIDN'T EVEN READ WHAT WE ASKED FOR. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD SOMETHING FOR THEM TO START WITH. >> YEAH, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US PUTTING IT OUT TO BID. I THINK IT HELPS FOCUS EVERYBODY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. MY ONLY CONCERN IS DO WE NEED TO EXTEND AGAIN THE CURRENT AGREEMENT TO THE END OF JUNE OR JULY 1ST. OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A NEW FISCAL YEAR AND THE GOVERNOR WILL BE HOPEFULLY GETTING THROUGH THE BUDGET AND PROVING IT. DO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HOLD ON TO THEM UNTIL THAT TIME OR WHAT'S THE THOUGHT ON THAT? >> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT AS LONG AS WE PUT OUT AN RFQ EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. >> I DON'T THINK ONE HAS TO DO WITH THE OTHER BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE US THAT LONG TO GET PROPOSALS BACK AND ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT WHO WOULD TAKE OVER FOR THE NEW FISCAL YEAR. QUITE HONESTLY IT'S GOING TO BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN IT'S BEEN IN THE PAST FEW YEARS TO GET A LOBBYING GROUP THAT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY CARRY THE WATER FOR US BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE BOTH IN THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE TO FALL BACK ON. SO IT'S A LITTLE HEAVIER LIFTING FOR US ESPECIALLY GIVEN WHAT THE REVENUES MAY BE IN TERMS OF THE STATE HERE IN THE NEXT 6 TO 12 MONTHS. BUT YEAH, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT AND I THINK WE CAN DO BOTH. CERTAINLY EXTEND ONE AND PUT IT ON OUR RFP FOR THE OTHER. I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM AND IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS THOUGHTS ON THAT, I'D LIKE TO HEAR IT. >> I'M GOOD WITH IT. >> I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, VERY WISE. >> WELL BASED ON COMMISSIONER CELLA'S COMMENTS AND SEEMINGLY SOME CONSENSUS, WE PROBABLY NEED TO HANDLE THESE SEPARATELY. [02:10:01] ITEM ONE AS STATED AND DISCUSSED, WHAT'S THE BOARD'S, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON ITEM ONE? >> I MOVE APPROVAL. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND, DIANE. >> OKAY. ROLL CALL VOTE. >> SORRY, DID WE GO BACK, EXCUSE ME, CHAIRMAN, DID WE GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER ONE UNDER 37 OR -- >> THIS WILL BE 37 PARAGRAPH ONE WE'LL DO ITEM TWO SEPARATELY. WE MAY NEED FURTHER ACTIONS ON THAT IF I HEARD YOU CORRECT. >> FOR PARAGRAPH ONE YOU JUST REALLY NEED A CONSENSUS. THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BID. >> DO I HAVE CONSENSUS ON ITEM ONE WE CAN JUST MOVE FORWARD. ANYONE DISAGREE WITH THAT? NO DISAGREEMENT, ALL RIGHT LET'S MOVE TO PARAGRAPH TWO THEN. AND EXTENDED THE CURRENT CONTRACT PAST 4/30. WOULD WE LIKE TO ARTICULATE THAT IN A MOTION OR LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS. >> WE CAN JUST CHANGE THE START DATE OF THE RFQ ON WHEN WE WANT IT BACK AND WHEN WE WANT IT IN BY. AND THEN WE GO BACK TO THE OTHER RACKET AND GIVE THEM A 3 OR 4 MONTH EXTENSION. ASSUMING COMMISSIONER CELLA IS CORRECT THAT WE'LL HAVE EVERYTHING SQUARED AWAY IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. IT'S A GOOD IDEA. >> BY CONSTITUTION DON'T WE HAVE TO HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET BY THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR. SO I WOULD THINK THAT THE GOVERNOR, IT WON'T BE PRETTY IN TERMS OF WHAT HE VETOES. THAT'S WHY WE NEED GOOD LOBBYING ALONG WITH THE CONCLUSION OF THE TERMS BOTH FOR ROB AND TRAVIS. BUT YEAH, I'M HOPEFUL TOO. LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY. >> ALL RIGHT SO, YES, COUNTY MANAGER? >> ALSO KAREN DID REACH OUT TO THE FIORENTINO GROUP TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE WILLING TO EXTEND WITH US AND THEY WERE MORE THAN WILLING JUST TO ADD THAT. >> DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON IT AS STATED OR DO WE MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS? WHAT WOULD BE THE WISE COURSE OF ACTION HERE? >> I THINK WE NEED TO EXTEND IT TO JUNE 30TH, THE CONTRACT DATE. >> AT THE VERY LEAST, YEAH. >> JUNE 30? COMMISSIONER BOLLA ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? >> I'M GOOD WITH THAT. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS? >> YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. >> SO WE WOULD JUST ALTER THIS TO JUNE 30 AS FAR AS AN ENDING DATE. I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE US APPROPRIATE TIME TO GET THE STATE BUDGET IN ORDER AND MOVE ON FROM THERE. >> SURE. AND I WILL GET WITH KAREN AND WE'LL PREPARE AN EXTENSION AND BRING IT IN FRONT OF FINANCE AND AUDIT. >> THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. [38.  Third Amendment to Florida Department of Corrections Agreement (D. Smith)] MOVING ON TO ITEM 38, THIRD AMENDMENT TO FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS AGREEMENT. THAT'S ARTICULATED BY ALL OF THOSE GUYS YOU SEE OUT ON THE ROAD PICKING UP TRASH AND I LOVE IT. BUT ANYWAY YOU'VE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS ON IT SO WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS? >> IS THIS FOR ME OR COMMISSIONERS? >> I'M SORRY? >> DID YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? >> NO, I DIDN'T. I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> OKAY. WELL BEING ABLE TO GET IT AT THE SAME PRICE AND THAT THE JOB ISN'T ANY DIFFERENT, I'LL MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT APPROVAL OF THE THIRD AMENDMENT TO THE INMATE LABOR WORK PROGRAM. >> IS THERE A SECOND? THERE IS A SECOND, OKAY. ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> YES. >> AND COMMISSIONER HENDRY VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. THANK YOU. [39.  Purchase of a walk-in Cooler Combo Unit] >>> ITEM 39 PURCHASE OF WALK IN COOLER COMBO UNIT. KAREN, YOU WANT TO PRESENT THIS PLEASE? >> YES, SIR, SO I RECEIVED A C CALL. THEIR LARGE WALK IN COOLER COMBO UNIT IS NOT WORKING. SO SHE HAD ASKED THAT WE CONSIDER PITCHING IN WITH THE PURCHASE OF A UNIT TO REPLACE THE UNIT THAT DOES NOT WORK. AND CONSIDERING THIS WOULD ALSO SERVE AS A BACK UP SECONDARY COOLER SYSTEM FOR THE COVID-19, CURRENTLY WE ARE RENTING TWO REFRIGERATED TRACTOR TRAILERS THAT ARE STORED AT THE FAIRGROUNDS RIGHT NOW. SHE FOUND A UNIT THAT SHE USED THAT'S $9,000. [02:15:01] WE'RE ASKING CONSIDERATION TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH MS. NANCY TO PURCHASE A NEW OR USED UNIT AND TO IDENTIFY FUNDING. KEEP IN MIND THIS IS A SECONDARY UNIT FOR THE COVID-19. THERE'S A POSSIBILITY WE COULD RECEIVE FUNDING REIMBURSEMENT FROM FEMA. >> OKAY. THANK YOU, KAREN. LET ME JUST SAY TO LEAD OFF THE CONVERSATION, MS. KEATING AND HER OPERATION HAVE BEEN A STARRING CROWN IN CLAY COUNTY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. AND I KNOW WHAT KIND OF OPERATION SHE RUNS AROUND THERE AND IT'S ALL HEART FELT AND EVERYONE IS ON TASK AND TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS. AND I KNOW WE DON'T NORMALLY, THIS IS OUT OF OR NORMAL TO APPROVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS. BUT I THINK GIVEN THE TOTALITY OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND THE RECORD THAT THE CHALLENGE ENTERPRISES HAS HAD IN THIS COUNTY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS BEING LED BY MS. KEATING, I THINK IT WOULD BE INCUMBENT ON US TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON THIS IN THE POSITIVE. BUT THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ONLY. COMMISSIONERS? >> I AGREE, SHE'S DOING A GREAT JOB. BUT THE THOUGHT THAT POPPED INTO MY HEAD WAS THAT WE'RE USING THIS FOR COVID-19, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE USING IT FOR STORING GROCERIES IN, RIGHT? >> WELL, AS IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME AND KAREN YOU CAN CLARIFY THIS. I THINK IT WAS A DUAL PURPOSE. >> CORRECT. AND THEY WILL STILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE COMMODITY DISTRIBUTION FOR US. IT WOULD JUST ALLOW US AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A SECOND BACK UP LOCATION FOR THE COVID-19. >> SHE'S TALKING ABOUT SUPPLIES AND FOOD STUFF THAT WE USE WITH THE FOOD PANTRIES AND THE GROUPS I THINK. >> OKAY. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE STORING COVID-19 IN THERE. >> I HOPE NOT. >> NO. >> I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE RESULTS OF COVID-19. >> WE'RE LOOKING AT CAPITAL EXPENSE HERE OR OPERATIONAL, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF WHERE THIS MONEY IS COMING FROM? >> I WOULD PROPOSE THE COVID-19 ACCOUNT THAT WE HAVE SET UP. >> AND THAT WOULD HASTEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY FOR FEMA MONEY ON THAT? >> YES. >> CAN I BREAK IN HERE? IT'S MIKE PRICE. >> MIKE, GO AHEAD. >> YES, CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU. WE ACTUALLY GIVE THEM A BUDGET FOR DISTRIBUTION. NOW THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO DO IT WOULD BE TO INCREASE THEIR EXISTING BUDGET SO THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE IT OUT OF THEIR OWN BUDGET. THAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS. >> WHAT'S OUR MONTHLY DISTRIBUTION OR HOW DO WE DISTRIBUTE MONEY TO THEM NOW, MIKE? >> I THINK WE HAVE AN ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THEM AND THEN IT'S ON A REIMBURSEMENT BASIS. WE CAN MODIFY THE MONEY AGREEMENT TOO TO GIVE THEM AN ANSWER. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> I DON'T THINK YOU'LL GET A FEMA REIMBURSEMENT FOR IT, THAT'S JUST A PERSONAL OPINION THOUGH. >> YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A BONUS. BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I GUESS THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE AND NOT WHAT NANCY AND HER FOLKS DO AT CHALLENGE ENTERPRISES, BUT WHO'S GOING TO BE NEXT IN THE DOOR TO ASK FOR SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE UNUSUAL THAN THEY'VE ASKED FOR BEFORE. >> MY POINT, COMMISSIONER, IS SO WE'RE ALL CLEAR, THIS IS AN INCREASE IN THE GRANT TO THE ORGANIZATION. THEY COME BEFORE YOU AND ASK FOR THE ANNUAL BUDGET AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR A $9,000 INCREASE. >> AND WHAT DO THEY HAVE OVER THERE NOW, KAREN? IS THIS A REPLACEMENT? >> YES. THERE WAS SOME PICTURES ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA BACK UP. THEY HAVE A BIG UNIT, IT HASN'T BEEN WORKING PROPERLY. THEY'VE BEEN BRINGING IN SMALLER REFRIGERATORS AND FREEZERS THAT HAVE BEEN DONATED TO THEM. OUR STAFF IN THE PAST OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS HAS WENT OUT AND DID SOME REPAIRS TO THE UNIT. BUT AT THIS POINT IT'S UNREPARABLE. THEY EVEN HAD AN OUTSIDE COMPANY [02:20:04] COME AND LOOK AT IT. >> WE CAN'T TAKE CHANCES IN TERMS OF DISTRIBUTING FOOD TO THOSE FOLKS THAT NEED IT AND HAVE THEM DO WHAT THEY DO AND NOT HAVE THEM SOME PLACE TO STORE IT. SO IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE, HOWARD, WITH THE MONEY COMING OUT OF THAT PARTICULAR ACCOUNT WE SHOULD INCREASE THE GRANT THAT WE GIVE TO CHALLENGE ENTERPRISES BY $9,000 AND JUST MOVE FORWARD. >> IS THAT A MOTION, COMMISSIONER CELLA? >> IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER THAT, YES. >> I WOULD. >> I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. >> THERE'S A SECOND. ANY FINAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. >> WHAT WOULD THE TIMING IN IT BE, WE'VE APPROPRIATED THE MONEY FOR THIS YEAR ALREADY? >> YES, SIR. >> AND IS THERE AN ISSUE WITH JUST INCREASING IT BY $9,000? OR DO WE HAVE TO MAKE UNTIL NEXT YEAR TO MAKE IT OFFICIAL AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF. >> WE'LL REVISE THE AGREEMENT AND BRING IT BACK TO THE FINANCING. >> IT PROBABLY ALSO HAS TO BE TRANSFERRED FROM RESERVES. >> MIKE, SAY THAT AGAIN, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. >> I'M SORRY, CHAIRMAN. I THINK YOU WOULD ALSO PROBABLY HAVE TO DO A TRANSFER FROM RESERVES TO BEEF UP THEIR BUDGET TOO. SO THERE WOULD BE A BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT WOULD GO ALONG WITH IT. >> ALL RIGHT. DOES THAT MEAN WE'VE RESOLVED THE MECHANISM ON HOW IT'S GOING TO BE DONE OR DOES THAT NEED FURTHER CLARIFICATION? >> I THINK YOU CAN APPROVE THE ACTION TONIGHT AND THEN STAFF WILL JUST BRING BACK THE AMENDMENT. >> OKAY, ALL RIGHT. >> THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS KNOWING THE TIME FRAME THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE IS THAT GOING TO BE SATISFACTORY IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH NOW AND WHAT THEY CAN USE THE NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT FOR. SO I MEAN WE ALL KNOW THAT AMENDING THINGS AND BRINGING IT BACK THROUGH THE FINANCE AND AUDIT AND THEN THE REGULAR BOARD MEETING IS GOING TO BE SEVERAL WEEKS, IS THAT SOMETHING THEY CAN DEAL WITH? >> I WILL TALK WITH MS. NANCY TOMORROW, BUT I BELIEVE SO, YES, SIR. >> WELL THEN I STAND BY MY MOTION, CHAIRMAN. >> OKAY. AND WE HAD A SECOND I BELIEVE BY COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. >> LET'S GO TO ROLL CALL ON THIS, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> YES. >> AND COMMISSIONER HENDRY VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANKS, KAREN. [COUNTY MANAGER/CLERK OF THE BOARD] ALL RIGHT, WE'RE DOWN TO COUNTY MANAGER'S COMMENTS SO. >> MR. CHAIR AND BOARD, A COUPLE OF THINGS THE START OFF WITH. FOR A NIGHTLY BRIEF FOR NUMBERS, WE ARE AT 168 POSITIVES. WE HAVE GONE UP BY THREE FROM OUR LAST REPORT AND THE NUMBER OF HOSPITALIZATIONS HAS GONE UP BY ONE. THE DEATHS UNFORTUNATELY THEY REMAIN THE SAME AT NINE DEATHS COUNTY WIDE. THIS IS OUT OF A TOTAL CASE NUMBER OF 21,628 FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA. ONE THING TO BRIEF TODAY OR THIS WEEK.IS NATIONAL TELECOMMUTERS - THAT OCCURS FROM APRIL 12TH THROUGH THE 18TH. WHICH MEANS THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO WORK BEHIND THE MICROPHONES ARE RECOGNIZED FOR THIS WEEK. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND NOT TO GIVE THEM A HUG AND TO MAINTAIN YOUR 6-FOOT DISTANCE OF SOCIAL DISTANCING. ON A SERIOUS NOTE THEY ARE DEFINITELY ON THE FRONT LINES TAKING 12 PLUS HOUR SHIFTS OVERTIME AND AS CHIEF REFERS TO THEM, THEY ARE THE FIRST RESPONDERS, GUARDIAN ANGELS WILL HAVE OUR BACK. THE NEXT ITEM I HAVE IS SOME CENSUS DATA. WHILE I BRING UP THAT DATA I'D ASK TROY TO BRING UP SOME COVID-19 RESPONSE NUMBERS WITH REGARDS TO MEDIA AND MEALS. JUST TO BRIEF EVERYONE, THE CENSUS BEGAN ON APRIL 1ST. WE ARE WELL AHEAD OF OUR RESPONSE RATE ON THAT OF 51.6%. IN FACT WE'RE ONLY 1 OF 9 COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA WITH A HIGHER RESPONSE RATE OF GREATER THAN 50%. THE STATE AVERAGES 46.3%. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF MONEY [02:25:03] ASSOCIATED WITH THE CENSUS, APPORTIONMENT COUNTS, REDISTRICTING, AND STATISTICAL DATA THAT GUIDES THE DISTRIBUTION OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTOR SPENDING FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS. RESPONDING TO THE 2020 CENSUS IS MORE THAN IMPORTANT NOW THAN EVER BEFORE. THE FUNDING OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WILL BE CRITICAL TO RECOVER FROM THE COVID-19 OUTBREAK. THE CENSUS IS LOOKING FOR RELIEF FROM CONGRESS TO EXTEND IT ANOTHER 120 ADDITIONAL DAYS BUT I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO FILL OUT YOUR CENSUS RESPONSE ONLINE AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS JUST LET ANALISA OR KIMBERLY KNOW. TROY HAS PUT UP OUR COVID-19 RESPONSE NUMBERS. WE HAVE HELD EIGHT PRESS CONFERENCES, 38 PRESS RELEASES, WE'VE HAD 3,034 MEDIA CONTACTS THROUGH TV, PRESS, AND RADIO AND ONE LETTER TO THE EDITOR THAT JOHN WARD HAS SEND OUT AND THERE WILL BE MORE TO FOLLOW ON THOSE. IF YOU'LL SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT, TROY, FOR ME. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SOCIAL MEDIA NUMBERS I JUST WOULD POINT YOU DOWN TO THE BOTTOM NUMBER OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE REACHED. 8,053,252. THAT DIDN'T COST US ANYTHING. IT'S THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAD THEIR POST ENTERED ON THEIR PAGES AND THEY CAME UP ON THEIR SCREEN. IF YOU GO ABOVE YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF POSTS, THE NUMBER OF LIKES, THE NUMBER OF REACTIONS, AND SO ON. THE NUMBER OF CALLS INTO THE CALL CENTER THAT WE HAVE BEEN OPERATING SINCE THE BEGINNING IS 4,250. SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE, TROY. WE'VE ALSO BEEN USING FACEBOOK AND SOCIAL MEDIA VIDEOS. YOU CAN SEE THOSE NUMBERS THAT ARE LISTED THERE AND THE TOTAL NUMBER OF WATCHES. NUMBER OF PAGE VISITS FOR OUR WEBSITE 188,000 AND MOVES RIGHT INTO OUR HUMAN SERVICES. I'D LIKE Y'ALL TO TAKE A LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS. THESE ARE FAMILIES IN NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY. WEEKLY WE DISTRIBUTE IT THROUGH THE FOOD BANKS, THROUGH SCHOOLS, SENIOR CENTERS, ALMOST THOUSAND MEALS WEEKLY. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR ALMOST FOUR WEEKS. YOU CAN DO THE MATH. YOU'RE UP TO 400,000 MEALS DISTRIBUTED SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS PANDEMIC. AND AT THE BOTTOM WE JUST HAD A LITTLE GRAPHIC TO DISPLAY WHERE WE ARE ON THE NUMBER OF LIKES AND THE INCREASE FROM LAST WEEK THAT WE GAVE TO YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME ON THAT? >> HOW ARE THE FOOD BANKS HOLDING UP? >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA, DEFINITELY IN NEED OF NONPERISHABLE ITEMS. WE HAVE HAD A RECENT DONATION BY FARM BUREAU AND THE CLAY COUNTY FARM COMMITTEE OF $5,000. THE COUNTY WILL DISTRIBUTE EITHER FOOD THAT'S DONATED OR MONEYS THAT ARE DONATED TO EACH ONE OF OUR SIX PANTRIES THAT ARE OUT THERE. WE HAVE LOTS OF PRODUCE AND THOSE PERISHABLE ITEMS THAT ARE BEING DONATED QUICKLY. AND SHOULD THE NEED RISE ANYMORE WE'LL LOOK FOR TWO SHIPMENTS OF FOOD FROM NORTHEAST FLORIDA. TEAM RUBICON IS HELPING US OUT WITH THAT ALONG WITH A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS THAT VICTORIA IS WORKING WITH. AND BY THE WAY THAT DONATION WAS THE FAIR ASSOCIATION, SORRY, I HAD A HICCUP ON THAT ONE. FIVE STAR AND THE FAIR ASSOCIATION DONATED $5,000. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE FOOD BANKS? SO FINALLY I JUST WANT TO MENTION MOVING FORWARD DURING OUR STAY AT HOME EMERGENCY WE WILL CONDUCT BOARD AND COMMITTEE MEETINGS USING MICROSOFT TEAMS AND CONTINUING OUR LIVE STREAMING. THE NEXT MEETING THAT'S SCHEDULED IS FINANCE AND AUDIT THAT'S FOR THE 14TH OF APRIL AT 3:00 P.M. AND THEN THE FOLLOWING BOARD MEETING WOULD BE THE 28TH OF APRIL AT 4:00 P.M. AT THE BOARD'S PLEASURE AND THE [02:30:01] CHAIRMAN, THE BOARD WOULD LIKE DISCUSSION ON THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST MOVING FORWARD TO GET US INTO A LITTLE BIT OF NORMALCY HERE. >> THE FINANCE AND AUDIT WAS WHAT DATE AGAIN? >> 14TH OF APRIL. >> EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY. 21ST OF APRIL. >> THERE YOU GO. >> I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. I HAD THE WRONG NUMBER WRITTEN. >> IT'S BEEN A LONG EVENING. >> YES, IT HAS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? >> I WONDER WHY WE'RE NOT GETTING MORE PUBLIC CONCERN OR JOINING IN THE MEETING? TODAY WE DIDN'T HAVE A SINGLE PUBLIC COMMENT, DID WE? >> WE DID NOT, NO, SIR. WE PUBLICIZED IT IN THE PAPER. PUT IT OUT ON ALL SOCIAL MEDIA. I THINK A LOT OF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET BACK TO NORMAL AND MEET IN PERSON TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. >> SOME WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO WITH IT. >> YES, SIR. >> BEFORE WE GO TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, I'D JUST LIKE TO CHIME IN, HOWARD TOUCHED ON THIS EARLIER, BUT CLAY COUNTY FARM BUREAU WHICH IS OUR LOCAL ORGANIZATION HERE, WE'RE GOING INTO THE FIELDS OF THE JOINING COUNTIES AND HELPING THESE FARMERS OUT WHO ARE PRODUCE FARMERS THEY'VE LOST THEIR CONTRACTS TO RESTAURANTS AND SCHOOLS, SO WE'RE GOING DIRECTLY TO THEM AND BUYING THEIR PRODUCT, PUTTING MONEY INTO THEIR POCKET AND BRINGING IT BACK TO CLAY COUNTY AND DISTRIBUTING IT TO THE FOOD BANKS AND PROBABLY ON THE SIDE OF THE ROADS YOU'LL SEE SOME OF OUR TRAILERS IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS. AND IT'S ALL FREE TO THE CITIZENS OF CLAY COUNTY. JUST PULL IN THERE, WE'LL LOAD YOU UP, POTATOES, COLLARED GREENS, SQUASH, A WHOLE RETINUE OF PRODUCE TO HELP OUT FOLKS WHO NEED IT. SO WE'LL BE TAKING THAT ROLE. OKAY MOVING ON TO COUNTY [40.  Resolution of Workers’ Compensation (Chapter 440) Claims No. 19-019017 (Employee) and No. 19-031320 (Estate) and related Chapter 112 Claims] ATTORNEY. YES, MA'AM. >> YES, ITEM NUMBER 40 ON THE AGENDA IS A RESOLUTION OF TWO WORKERS COMPENSATION CLAIMS WE HAVE AS WELL AS THEIR RELATED CHAPTER 112 CLAIMS AND WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR THE BOARD'S APPROVAL OF IS WE HAVE WORKED WITH OUR WORKERS' COMP CARRIER AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL TO REACH A RESOLUTION OF ALL THREE CLAIMS FOR THE AMOUNT OF 200,000 PLUS HEALTH INSURANCE BENEFITS. IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS I CAN EXPAND ON IT OR WE WOULD JUST NEED APPROVAL IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RESOLUTION. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE SETTLEMENT. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. A SECOND? >> I'LL SECOND. >> WE'LL GO TO ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. >> YES. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNTY MANAGER. >> OKAY. SO I HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM. AS MOST OF YOU ARE AWARE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT INSTITUTED THE CARES ACT PROGRAM AND THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT GRANTS THAT ARE ALLOCATED UNDER THAT PROGRAM. WE HAVE BEEN THE RECIPIENT OF ONE OF THE GRANTS DUE TO SERVICES THAT OUR EMS PROVIDES AND IT WILL BE DISPERSED IN THE AMOUNT OF $133,000. OBVIOUSLY WE WANTED IT TO BE MORE BUT WE'LL TAKE THE $133,000. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE REPAID, IT IS NOT A LOAN, IT IS JUST A STRAIGHT GRANT. WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS IT REQUIRES AN ELECTRONIC ACCEPTANCE. AND WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE BOARD TO AUTHORIZE CHAIRMAN HENDRY OR THE COUNTY MANAGER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ELECTRONIC ACCEPTANCE THAT HAS TO BE DONE. >> I MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> OKAY. WE'LL GO TO ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> AYE. >> WE'RE DONE. ANYTHING ELSE, COUNTY ATTORNEY? >> THAT'S IT UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> NOPE, I HAVE NOTHING. WE'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. SO -- >> ITEM 43. [02:35:01] >> OH, I'M SORRY. SUPPER IS CALLING. [43.  Discussion of Appointment and Resignations to the Board of Adjustments] >> THOSE COLLARED GREENS SOUNDED PRETTY GOOD. >> WE'VE HAD TWO RESIGNATIONS. TRISH KOLOSKY FROM OUR MEMBER LEE AND MARK CORNELIUS FROM OUR MEMBER FOUR. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE RESIGNATIONS? >> I'LL APPROVE THEM. >> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT WE'LL GO TO ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> AYE. >> ALL RIGHT. SO DONE. AND AS FAR AS NEW EMPLOYMENTS WE HAVE AN APPLICATION FROM WILLIAM AUCLAIR'S MEMBER FIVE SEAT OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT WHICH EXPIRED ON JANUARY 1. HE'S SEEKING APPOINTMENT TO THAT PARTICULAR SEAT. ANYONE KNOW WILLIAM AUCLAIR? ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON HIS BEHALF? >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION. >> SECOND. >> WE'LL GO TO ROLL CALL AGAIN. COMMISSIONER CELLA? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> YES. >> WILLIAM AUCLIAR, YES. THOMAS GOLDSBURY SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION REQUESTING CONSIDERATION FOR BOARD OF APPOINTMENT TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT TO FILL A VACANCY. >> I MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> MOVE OF APPROVAL, THERE'S A SECOND. LET'S GO TO ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. >> AYE. >> OKAY. >> QUICKLY ON THAT, M MR. GOLDSBURY WILL FILL EITHER THE MEMBER THREE OR MEMBER FOUR SEAT AND WE WILL PUT OUT FOR APPLICATIONS TO FILL THE REMAINING SEAT. >> OKAY, ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE DOWN TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. TROY, HAS ANYONE CALLED IN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? >> NO, SIR. >> ALL RIGHT THEN WE GO BACK TO [COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS] COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER BOLLA, IT'S ON YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS STAY AT HOME WOULD BE LIKE WITHOUT THE INTERNET. AND WE HAVE AGGRESSIVELY MOVED IN THE PAST TO INCREASE INTERNET AVAILABILITY AND ENHANCE THAT IN CLAY COUNTY AND I THINK YOU ALL DESERVE A PAT ON THE BACK. THAT WAS EXACTLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO. >>> GOING FORWARD I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT. WE'VE SEEN A REAL CHANGE IN WHAT OUR SOCIETY IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE OVER THE NEXT TEN YE-- YEA. THIS THING IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY MAGICALLY. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS. >> I WAS GOING TO BRING THAT UP AND I HAVE A QUESTION IF TROY IS STILL ON THE LINE, I'M GUESSING HE IS. >> YES, SIR. >> I'VE GOTTEN MULTIPLE QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, ONE FAIRLY RECENTLY AND THEN JUST THROUGHOUT. THERE SEEMS TO BE THIS BELIEF OUT THERE, I NEVER TRACKED DOWN WHO THAT ACTUAL AT&T WORKER IS THAT IS TELLING PEOPLE THIS, BUT THAT THE COUNTY HAS TO CONTRACT OR GIVE PERMISSION TO SERVICE PROVIDERS OF INTERNET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THERE'S NOTHING THE COUNTY CAN DO FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT OTHER THAN OBVIOUSLY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE DARK FIBER AND WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS MUCH AS WE CAN IN THAT EFFORT. THERE'S NOTHING THE COUNTY CAN DO OTHER THAN IF WE WERE TO JUST PAY A COMPANY TO COME IN AND LAY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF FIBER. THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO TO ENCOURAGE COMPANIES TO LAY ADDITIONAL FIBER OR PROVIDE ADDITIONAL, LIKE CLAY HILL AND KEYSTONE OBVIOUSLY THE OUTLYING AREAS HAVE MAJOR ISSUES WITH CONNECTIVITY. IT'S NOT EVEN THAT THEY DON'T HAVE HIGH SPEED INTERNET, IN SOME CASES THEY JUST DON'T HAVE IT AT ALL. DID THAT MAKE SENSE, THAT WAS KIND OF, I THINK YOU'VE SEEN THE QUESTIONS TOO. >> YES, SIR. THERE'S NO LONGER ANY KIND OF FRANCHISING AGREEMENTS IN CLAY COUNTY. THAT WAS DONE AWAY WITH TEN PLUS YEARS AGO. >> OKAY. SO ANY SERVICE PROVIDER IS MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON POPULATION DENSITY AND WHAT THEY THINK THEY CAN MAKE, RIGHT? >> THEY'RE MAKING PURE BUSINESS DECISIONS. [02:40:04] >> OKAY. >> I THINK PUTTING THE CONDUIT IN ALONGSIDE OUR NEW ROAD CONSTRUCTION IS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS WE CAN DO TO SPUR MORE COMPETITION. THAT WOULD GIVE US AN OAR IN THE WATER ON THIS ONE. >> THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS ABOUT SOMEONE EMAILED, I THINK WE SAW IT BUT IN TERMS OF REPURPOSING SOME OF WHAT WE'RE DOING IN COUNTY OFFICES FOR LIKE UNEMPLOYMENT APPLICATIONS THAT TYPE OF THING, HAS THE STATE TALKED TO US ABOUT THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD DO, HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, COUNTY MANAGER? >> YES, SIR. SO WHAT THE PLAN WAS AND I DON'T KNOW IF JOHN WARD IS UP BUT HE CAN BACK ME UP ON IT. SO WE TOOK A CRITICAL LOOK AT THIS. SO IN ORDER TO APPLY FOR UNEMPLOYMENT THE QUESTION WAS USE OF COMPUTERS. OBVIOUSLY IF YOU HAVE A CENTRAL LOCATION FOR THE COMPUTERS LIKE THE LIBRARIES, THAT BECOMES AN AREA WHERE THERE CAN BE GATHERINGS OF MORE THAN TEN. SO WE KIND OF BRAINSTORMED IT. JOHN CAME UP WITH A GREAT IDEA TO PRINT OUT THE FORMS AND PROVIDE THOSE FORMS WHEN THE MEALS ARE DISTRIBUTED. SO THOSE RESIDENTS CAN FILL OUT THOSE APPROPRIATE FORMS AND APPLY FOR UNEMPLOYMENT. MAIL THEM IN USING SNAIL MAIL AND GET THEIR FORMS TO THE APPROPRIATE AGENCY. WE CAN ALSO HELP OUT STANDING BY ON OUR 1-800 NUMBER. AND THE FINAL WAY AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT WENT WITH REGARDS TO CAREER SOURCE AND THE USE OF THEIR COMPUTERS WAS AN IDEA THAT WAS OUT THERE BUT I NEVER GOT CLOSURE ON THAT WHETHER THEY COULD HELP OUT. >> OKAY. WELL THANKS FOR LOOKING INTO THAT. CAN WE DO LIKE SOME KIND OF PRESS RELEASE OR POST ABOUT THAT. WE MAY HAVE ALREADY DONE IT. I KNOW WE HAVE QUITE A FEW FOLLOWERS AND WE'RE DOING A LOT TO PUSH INFORMATION OUT THERE BUT IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT EITHER TODAY OR TOMORROW THEN I'LL SHARE IT ON MY FACEBOOK PAGE AND THAT TYPE OF THING TOO. >> OKAY. ANALISA IS UP. I SEE HER ON THE MICROSOFT TEAMS. >> AND IT'S HARD THOUGH BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE A COMPUTER YOU MAY NOT SEE THE POST AND YOU'RE THE ONE HAVING TO USE THE PRINTED VERSION. BUT HOPEFULLY FRIENDS CAN TALK TO PEOPLE WHO KNOW AND AS PEOPLE ARE OUT DELIVERING MAYBE THEY CAN JUST TAKE A STACK WITH THEM. >> OKAY. THANK YOU, GAVIN. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. CHAIRMAN. APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK COUNTY STAFF IS DOING. I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING A LOT OF EXTRA HOURS AND THE COUNTY MANAGER AND EVERYONE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK. >> AMEN. COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> YEAH, BEFORE GETTING STARTED WITH ANYTHING ELSE I WOULD JOIN IN SENDING THE KUDOS TO OUR TEAM OUT THERE AT THE EOC AND UNIFIED COMMAND JOHN WARD HAS INDICATED A NUMBER OF TIMES THAT WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT THAT WE DO THAT INTERACTS WITH OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM. IT DOESN'T HAPPEN THAT WAY ALL OVER THE STATE SO WE'RE IN PRETTY GOOD HANDS THAT WAY. AND SO FOR ALL OF THOSE FOLKS, FOR CHIEF MOCK, FOR OUR COUNTY MANAGER WHO CAME ON BOARD AND HE'S NOT BEEN HERE A YEAR AND HE'S ALREADY GOING THROUGH A PANDEMIC. HE'S PICKED UP PRETTY QUICK ON THAT STUFF. I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK ALL OF OUR VOLUNTEERS AND NON-PROFITS FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT THEY DO. THE FOOD PANTRIES ARE HAVING A HARD TIME COLLECTING OUT THERE. FOLKS ARE OUT THERE WANTING TO CONTRIBUTE, CERTAINLY OF ALL OF THE SIX FOOD PANTRIES ALL OF THEM WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO GIVE THEM. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ASPECT IN WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW. I'D LIKE TO MENTION THE CLAY CHAMBER COMMERCE GOING BO FE AND BEYOND. THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE ORANGE PARK MEDICAL CENTER. THEY'VE GOTTEN SOME SURGICAL MATERIAL THEY'RE TURNING INTO MASKS FOR SOME OF THE HOSPITALS AND MAYBE SOME OTHER FIRST RESPONDERS LOOKING FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT MAY BE ABLE TO SEW, ACTUALLY THE MATERIALS BEING CUT B NANCY KEATING GROUP AT NATIONAL ENTERPRISES. IF YOU CAN SEW, LET US KNOW. WE'RE GOING TO TURN OUT SOME 10,000 MASKS WITH A SURGICAL FILTER. THESE MASKS HAVE BEEN DESIGNED BY THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA. ONE OF THE PROFESSORS OUT THERE WHO'S NAME ESCAPES ME AT THIS TIME. BUT GO TO THE CLAY COUNTY WEBSITE AND YOU CAN SIGN UP THERE AND VOLUNTEER TO SEW IN YOUR OWN HOME. THEY'LL SHARE THE MATERIALS AND THE PATTERN AND SHOW YOU A VIDEO OF HOW TO DO IT. [02:45:02] SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST AND IT'S BEEN WHISPERED ABOUT BUT I GOT INTO A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEBODY THE OTHER DAY ABOUT IT. BUT YOU HAVE FIRE AND RESCUE FOLKS WHO SERVED OUT THERE THAT ARE STILL OWED MONEY. I THINK IT'S TIME WE DEVISED A PLAN TO GET THEM THEIR MONEY. WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. THEY PUT THEIR TIME AND EFFORT IN UNDER AN AGREEMENT AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN PAID AND I FIND THAT TO BE UNACCEPTABLE. SO WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING IN THAT REGARD. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, CHAIRMAN. >> OKAY. AND CERTAINLY LAST BUT NOT LEAST COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS. >> GOOD EVENING. IT'S BEEN AN INTERESTING MEETING AND I WANT TO SAY TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF KEEPING IT MOVING AND KEEPING US ALL ON TRACK. I KNOW THAT HASN'T BEEN EASY. A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO TACK ON TO WHAT COMMISSIONER BOLLA SAID. THE IMPORTANCE OF MAKING SURE THE PUBLIC DOESN'T FEEL DISENFRANCHISED, ONE THOUGHT AND I HAVEN'T TALKED TO TROY ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT THIS IS COULD WE PUT THE NUMBER ON THE FACEBOOK SCREEN SO THAT WHILE THEY'RE WATCHING THE MEETING IF THEY WANT TO CALL IN THE NUMBER IS RIGHT THERE. IT MIGHT MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCESSIBLE. IT'S SO RIVETING TO GET INVOLVED IN WATCHING THE MEETING YOU DON'T WANT TO BREAK AWAY AND GO LOOK FOR THE NUMBER SOMEWHERE ELSE. ANOTHER THING IS BEING MASKS, I'M NOT SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS BUT THE MASK WHEN YOU PUT THAT ON, YOU'RE PUTTING IT ON TO PROTECT YOUR NEIGHBOR, NOT TO PROTECT YOURSELF. SO WHEN YOU SEE SOMEBODY WITH A MASK ON THAT'S A VERY SELFLESS ACT AND HOPEFULLY MORE OF US WILL START DOING THAT. I NOTICED THERE WAS A STORE ON FLEMING ISLAND THAT NOW REQUIRES BEFORE YOU CAN ENTER THE STORE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MASK ON. SO GET THOSE SEWING MACHINES GOING AND PICK OUT YOUR FAVORITE MASK. MY FAVORITE ONE WAS A HUSBAND AND WIFE HAD MATCHING HOMEMADE MASKS SO MAYBE THEY'LL START A TREND. THANK YOU ALL, IT'S GOOD TO SEE THE GOOD IN OUR COMMUNITY AND CLAY COUNTY IS STRONG AND WE WILL HELP OUR NEIGHBORS IN TIME OF NEED. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO. >> THANK YOU, DIANE. I'D LIKE TO SAY I'M TRULY BLESSED BY HAVING A BUNCH OF GOOD PEOPLE TO WORK WITH, NOT ONLY COMMISSIONERS BUT UPPER STAFF ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BOTTOM. FOLKS JUST REMEMBER AFTER TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE ONE DAY CLOSER TO BEING THROUGH WITH THIS. ONE DAY CLOSER. I WAS READING LAST NIGHT AND SOMETHING STRUCK ME AND I JUST WANTED TO LEAVE THIS THOUGHT WITH YOU AND THEN I'LL BE THROUGH. BUT THIS IS CALLED THE SIX ETHICS OF LIFE. IT SAID BEFORE YOU PRAY, BELIEVE. BEFORE YOU SPEAK, LISTEN. BEFORE YOU SPEND, EARN. BEFORE YOU WRITE, THINK. BEFORE YOU QUIT, TRY. AND BEFORE YOU DIE, LIVE. AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST UPLIFTING MESSAGE I COULD SHARE WITH EVERYONE TODAY. I THANK YOU FOR TUNING IN WITH US. HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE THOUSANDS FOLLOWING US NEXT WEEK ONCE WE GET ALL OF THE BILLBOARDS PUT IN PLACE. AGAIN GOD BLESS Y'ALL AND MAY I ASK OUR GOD TO SAVE OUR REPUBLIC. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.