Feb 11, 2020 BCC Agenda

[CALL TO ORDER]

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>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WELCOME TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING FOR FEBRUARY 11TH. WE WOULD ASK COMMISSIONER CELLA TO GIVE OUR INVOCATION FOLLOWED PI THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY OUR SPECIAL GUESTS. I'LL INTRODUCE

HIM AFTER THE PRAYER. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: COULD YOU PLEASE RISE. FATHER THANK YOU FOR EVERY SEAT THAT'S BEEN FILLED HERE TODAY, FOR EACH MIND AND HEART THAT FEELS THE PRESENCE OF THIS ROOM, WE THANK YOU. I PRAY FOR THE AGENDA SET BEFORE US TODAY. GRANT US THE WISDOM AND COURAGE TO KNOW AND DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND GOOD AND TRUE. GIVE THIS BOARD THE ABILITY TO WORK TOGETHER IN HARMONY EVEN WHEN THERE IS HONEST DISAGREEMENT. EVERY PROJECT, EVERY SEASON, EVERY LIFE, NOTHING IS EVER IN VAIN FOR EVEN MISTAKES AND MIS-STEPS ARE USED FOR GOOD. READY US TO MAKE EVERY MOMENT COUNT. IN YOUR MOST BLESSED NAME I PRAY, AMEN.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: IF YOU WOULD REMAIN STANDING I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR SPECIAL GUEST FOR TODAY. ERIC DAVIDSON. RESIDENT OF ORANGE PARK. UNITED STATES NAVY 23 YEARS. AND HAD THE DISTINCTION OF I GUESS IT WOULD BE A DISTINCTION OF GOING TO VIETNAM THREE TIMES. GOT A CHEST FULL OF MEDALS TO PROVE IT. AND WE WOULD ASK HIM TODAY TO LEAD US IN OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF OUR GREAT COUNTRY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR VSERVICE. YOU MAY BE

[A MOMENT IN HISTORY]

GOOD ONE TODAY, GAVIN? >> COMMISSIO >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: I DON'T ACTUALLY. I CAN GIVE YOU LOTS OF THINGS ON HISTORY BUT NOT ON THIS PARTICULAR DAY SO I

APOLOGIZE [LAUGHTER] >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: I WAS IN MONTANA ONE SAME AND THERE WAS A SIGN THAT SAID IN THIS LOCATION IN 1863, NOT A SINGLE THING OF

IMPORTANCE HAPPENED. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: WE'RE

GOING TO MAKE HISTORY TONIGHT. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: THANK YOU ANYWAY. WE HAVE SKIPPED OUR ARTWORK TODAY DUE TO TECHNICAL ADULTS BUT WE'LL MOVE ON WITH PET ADOPTIONS. JACKIE, DO YOU

[PET ADOPTIONS]

HAVE GOOD STUFF FOR US TONIGHT? >> SPEAKER: YES. THE FIRST DOG'S NAME IS FRECKLES. FRECKLES IS A SPAYED FEMALE MIX. SHE CAME TO THE SHELTER AS A STRAY FROM THE FIELD. SHE WENT WITH THE ADOPTION STAFF TO AN EVENT LAST WEEKEND AND DID GREAT WITH THE OTHER DOGS. FRECKLES IS UP TO DATE ON ALL OF HER VACCINES, SPRAYED, MICROCHIP AND SHE IS HEART WORM NEGATIVE. OUR NEXT DOG IS GUS. GUS IS A NEUTERED MALE MIXED BREED. GUS CAME TO THE MAINTENANCE SHELTER AS A STRAY AND HE WAS IMMEDIATELY ADOPTED. UNFORTUNATELY, HE WAS RETURNED BECAUSE HE HAD A LITTLE TOO MUCH ENERGY FOR THE ADOPTER. IF YOU LOOKING FOR A FUN LOVING DOG, GUS MIGHT BE THE RIGHT ONE FOR YOU. GUS IS UP TO DATE ON UHL A OF HIS VACCINES, NEUTERED, MICRO

>> CH NEGATIVE. KATIE IS A SPAYED FEMALE DOMESTIC SHORT HAIR.

KATIE IS A SUPER FRIENDLY NINE-MONTH-OLD CAT WHO LOVES TO PLAY WITH TOYS IN HER CAGE. SHE DID TEST FIV POSITIVE BUT IS OTHERWISE A VERY HEALTHY CAT. MANY CATS ARE FIV HAVE COMPLETELY NORMAL LIFESPANS. KATIE IS UP TO DATE ON ALL OF HER AGE APPROPRIATE VACCINES, SPRAYED AND MICRO CHIPPED. ANIMAL COULD WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT PET SMART NATIONAL ADOPTION EVENT WILL BE HELD ON WELLS ROAD ORANGE PARK FEBRUARY 28TH-29 FROM 10-2:00 P.M. SO, IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A FOREVER FRIEND, DONE BY AND SEE US. THANK YOU.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: THANK YOU MA'AM. NOT LIKE HAVING THEM IN PERSON BUT THAT IS OKAY. WE'LL TAKE WHAT WE CAN GET. I'M JUST GLAD OUR COUNTY -- I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER COUNTIES DO IT OR NOT BUT WE TAKE SPECIAL TIME TO REMEMBER OUR FOUR-LEGGED FRIENDS. BECAUSE THAT'S JUST WHO WE ARE AS A PEOPLE. ALL RIGHT. MOVING RIGHT ALONG. SPECIAL STAFF RECOGNITION. CHIEF AND

[SPECIAL STAFF RECOGNITION]

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OFF. THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: IF I COULD, CAN I HAVE THE EGGMAN FAMILY PLEASE COME UP. I AM GOING TO TELL YOU A STORY. WE HAVE IT UNDER SPECIAL STAFF RECOGNITION BUT THIS IS VERY MUCH A BIT OF A REUNIFICATION PROJECT WE'VE GOT GOING ON. ON SUPER BOWL SUNDAY, IN THE EVENING, ONE OF OUR -- RIGHT UP HERE, YEP. AND YOU GET TO TURN AROUNDND A LOOK AT THE CAMERA. THIS IS THE FUN PART [LAUGHTER] ONE OF OUR LIEUTENANTS WAS ON HIS WAY HOME SUPER BOWL SUNDAY AND AS HE IS COMING DOWN THE ROAD ON 220 HE SEES THIS VEHICLE NOT EVEN QUITE ALL THE WAY OFF THE ROAD AT DOCTOR'S INLET. EVERYBODY KNOWS THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SHOULDER THERE. HE SEES A FAMILY THAT APPEARS TO BE LIKE THEY'RE IN DISTRESS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I HEAR THE STORY THAT WHEN HE COULD SEE THE CHILD AND IT LOOKED LIKE MAYBE THEY WERE TRYING TO CLEAR THE CHILD'S AIRWAY. SO, HIS WIFE ASTUTELY GOT HIM TO TURN AROUND AND, OF COURSE, HE WAS GOING TO TURN AROUND. HE JUMPS OVER THE MEDIAN, COMES OVER AND FINDS LITTLE ONE-YEAR-OLD BRANTLEY HERE IS HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF A MEDICAL ISSUE GOING ON. SO, PRIOR TO THIS WE'LL USE THIS AS A TEACHING OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYBODY, HE EVIDENTLY IS TEETHING AND WAS RUNNING HIMSELF A LITTLE FEVER. DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HE WAS RUNNING A FEVER. JUST

STARTED, IS THAT RIGHT MOM? >> YES >> SPEAKER: AND HE HAD A SEIZURE. BUT HE WAS GETTING TUESDAYY SO SHE GAVE HIM A CRACKER AND HE STARTED TO HAVE A SEIZURE AND IT CAN VERY MUCH LOOK LIKE A CHILD IS CHOKING. FATHER IS TRYING TO GET THE COOKIE OUT OF THE KID'S MOUTH AND OUR LIEUTENANT LOW AND BEHOLD WE LOVE HIM, HE DOESN'T LIKE A WHOLE LOT OF RECOGNITION, PULLED OVER AND WAS ABLE TO HELP THEM OUT AND GET LITTLE BRANTLEY HERE THE MEDICAL CARE THAT HE NEEDED AND PASSED DOWN TO THE CREWS. AS YOU CAN SEE HE IS 100% ALL WITH US. SO, WITH THAT, I'M GO YOUING TO BRING IN LIEUTENANT MCMILLAN. HE IS A 23-PLUS YEAR FIREFIGHTER FOR CLAY COUNTY. STARTED OFF WITH US AS A VOLUNTEER, WORKED HIS WAY UP TO LIEUTENANT AND CURRENTLY WORKS AT THE CAMP BLANDING AREA. LIEUTENANT MCMILLAN, LITTLE BRANTLEY, AND HERE'S YOUR FAMILY. HOW ABOUT THAT. [APPLAUSE]

I AM GOING TO TURN THIS OVER IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING. >> WE ARE VERY THANKFUL. I'M NOT GOOD AT SPEECHES. I TEACH KIDS. THAT'S IT. YOU KNOW, IT WAS DEFINITELY A TERRIFYING NIGHT.

WE HAD BEEN THERE A LOT. THE WHOLE TIME THAT HE'S BEEN BORN BASICALLY. AND THAT NIGHT I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO LOSE HIM. I WAS PLAYING ALL THESE MOMENTS IN MY HEAD. I'M LIKE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO WAKE UP TO HIM THE NEXT MORNING. YOU KNOW, WE WERE SCREAMING FOR HELP AND THERE'S MILLIONS OF CARS PASSING BY AND NOBODY STOPPED AND HE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT STOPPED. AND WE ARE VERY THANKFUL. GIF GOD HAS BROUGHT HIM TO US AND WE APPRECIATE HIM BEING THERE IN THAT MOMENT. I KNOW YOU ARE PROBABLY LIKE WOW THIS IS A LOT. I DID NOT EXPECT THIS TO BLOW OVER LIKE THIS BUT HE DESERVES IT. THERE'S A LOT OF NEGATIVE IN THE WORLD. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF POSITIVE. SO, HE IS DEFINITELY OUR POSITIVE. [APPLAUSE]

>> SPEAKER: WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO BRING THE FAMILY OUT AND LET THEM HAVE A LITTLE TIME WITH EACH OTHER. HOW ABOUT THAT? THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR COMING.

[APPLAUSE] >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: A GOOD PART TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT STORY. MARK MCMILLAN IS ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS. SO, I'M GLAD TO HAVE HIM LIVING CLOSE BY. ESPECIALLY AT MY AGE.

THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: IF YOU EVER CHOKE ON A CRACKER YOU'LL

BE OKAY [LAUGHTER] >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: OKAY.

THAT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE A STORY WITH A SWEET ENDING. BABIES AND DOGS, THAT IS WHAT MY LIFE'S ABOUT. JUST A COUPLE OTHER SHOUT-OUTS HERE. I'D LIKE OLGA TO COME UP. OLE GA IS ONE OF OUR VALUED EMPLOYEES AND SHE IS WHAT KEEPS OUR BUDGET STRAIGHT. SHE IS THE NUMBERS

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THE FLORIDA GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION HAS MORE THAN 3,300 MEMBERS STATEWIDE, OLGA BEING ONE. SO, YOU AND OUR ENTIRE GOVERNMENT SHOULD TAKE PRIDE IN WHAT YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED AND WE JUST ARE THANKFUL TO HAVE PEOPLE ON BOARD OF YOUR CALIBER. AND THROUGH YOUR SERVICE, YOU DEMONSTRATE HOW OUR COUNTY IS COMMITTED TO GOOD GOVERNMENT AND EXCEPTIONAL PUBLIC SERVICE. NO PRIZE JUST ACCLIMATION. SO, IF WE WOULD JOIN IN.

[APPLAUSE] >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH I REALLY APPRECIATE

IT. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: OKAY. THAT'S IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE NERVOUS ANYMORE. BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT WAS. AND ON JUST A LAST NOTE OF THANKS, MANY OF YOU WAS AROUND LAST THURSDAY NIGHT WHEN THE STORM HIT. AND I ACTUALLY DOUBLE CHECKED THIS BUT WE HAD GUSTS OF WIND UP TO 70 MILES AN HOUR. AND YOU KNOW THERE WAS EXTENSIVE DAMAGE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. PUSHING THE -- CHAIRING IT WITH OUR LAST TWO HURRICANES. WE HAD OVER 60,000 MEMBERS IN THE COUNTY WITHOUT ELECTRICITY. SOME FOR AS LONG AS TWO DAYS. I WAS ONE OF THE TWO DAYS. AND MY WIFE, MAYBE IN A JOKING MATTER, SAID WELL YOU ARE COUNTY COMMISSION AND YOU CAN'T GET ME HOT WATER IN THE HOUSE? I SAID THAT'S ABOVE MY LEVEL. SO WE HAD TO WAIT IT OUT JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. AFTER TWO DAYS WE GOT ELECTRICITY BACK. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE A SPECIAL THANKS TO THE MEN AND WOMEN OF CLAY ELECTRIC. BECAUSE THEY WERE WORKING 18-HOUR SHIFTS. THEY WERE BRINGING IN CREWS FROM OTHER COUNTIES AND THEY WERE REALLY OUT THERE PUSHING THE LIMIT AS FAR AS WORKING AND WORKING SAFELY. YOU KNOW, YOU ARE AROUND LIVE WIRES THERE'S A LIMIT TO HOW MANY HOURS YOU CAN STAY AROUND THEM BEFORE YOU START GETTING CARELESS. BUT THERE WAS NO INJURIES. THEY GOT EVERYBODY BACK UP AND RUNNING BY SATURDAY NIGHT. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE A PUBLIC THANKS TO THEM FROM THE BCC FOR THE EXTRAORDINARY AND SUCCESSFUL WORK THEY ACCOMPLISHED FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. DID A GRAND JOB.

THEY'RE NOT HERE BUT LET'S GIVE THEM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. [APPLAUSE]

[PRESENTATIONS]

FROM THIS BUILDING OVER TO THE CLERK. SO, ROB IT'S ALL YOURS. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M ROBERT LEMON, AUDIT PARTNER AND MEMBER OF THE TRANSITION TEAM WHICH IS LOOKING TO IMPLEMENT THE RESULTS OF AMENDMENT 10 WHICH WAS VOTED ON ABOUT A YEAR OR SO AGO WHERE WE HAVE TO MOVE THE ACCOUNTING FUNCTIONS OF THE COUNTY FROM THE BOARD OVER TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE. SO THAT'S WHAT THE TRANSITION TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING ON AND I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE THE TEAM IS AT. SO THE TEAM'S BEEN MEETING EVERY COUPLE WEEKS. WE'VE BEEN LOOKING PRIMARILY AT OTHER COUNTIES AS BENCHMARKS. OTHER COUNTIES THAT ARE ALREADY FOLLOWING THE MODEL WE'RE LOOKING TO TRANSITION TO. ONE OF OUR BIG THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT TOO IS WE'VE ESTABLISHED THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES IN THE ACCOUNTING TEAM THAT WILL LIVE ON THE BOARD SIDE AND ON THE CLERK'S SIDE AFTER TRANSITION. AND WE'VE ALSO DRAFTED A PROPOSED ORGANIZATION CHART FOR THE ACCOUNTING TEAM ON THE BOARD SIDE AND THE CLERK SIDE TO EXECUTE THOSE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. AND TODAY HERE IF WE ALL AGREE THAT IT'S THE APPROPRIATE ORGANIZATION CHART THE NEXT STEPS WILL BE TO FILL THE POSITIONS AND THEN WRITE THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT THOSE TEAMS WILL FOLLOW IN EXECUTING THEIR ACCOUNTING RESPONSIBILITIES. SO THE BULK OF MY PRESENTATION HERE TODAY IS REALLY ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION CHART AND TO GET EVERYONE COMFORTABLE WITH THE ORGANIZATION CHART. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED COPIES.

THERE'S A PAGE FOR THE BOARD'S ACCOUNTING TEAM THAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND A PAGE FOR THE CLERK'S ACCOUNTING TEAM. AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE HIGHLIGHTS. CURRENTLY WE HAVE 20

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ORGANIZATION CHARTS BEING PRESENTED. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: DID YOU COPY THIS MODEL FROM SOME OTHER AGENCY WHERE IT'S UP AND RUNNING AND WORKING WELL?

>> SPEAKER: YES IT WAS VERY MUCH BUILT ON OTHER COUNTIES. THE PRIMARY MODEL WAS ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WE OBVIOUSLY ADJUSTED IT TO FIT CLAY'S CIRCUMSTANCES AND SIZE. BUT WE HAVE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF COMPARABLE COUNTIES ALREADY IN THE MODEL THAT WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS, YES.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN USING THIS PARTICULAR MODEL?

>> SPEAKER: A NUMBER OF YEARS I WOULD BE GUESSING. BUT A WHILE. IT'S BEEN WELL ESTABLISHED.

>> COMMISSIONER CELLA: THE ADDITIONAL SEVEN POSITIONS, WHERE ARE THOSE GOING? SPEAKER IT'S PURCHASING AND BUDGETING. IT'S ROUGHLY 2 AND 4 IN THE BREAKDOWN. PLUS THERE IS ONE WHICH WOULD BE A COMPENSATION ANALYST BECAUSE THERE'S AN EXTRA HANDOFF ON THE PAYROLL PROCESS NOW. SO, I GUESS IT WOULD BE TWO IN PURCHASING, FOUR IN BUDGETING AND ONE IN

COMPENSATION WHICH IS PART OF THE PAYROLL PROCESS. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: THIS IS LIKE GOVERNMENT IN ACTION. WE JUST CHANGED THE SAME FUNCTION AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S A HALF MILLION BUCKS MORE MONEY TO DO THE SAME THING. I IN IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. WE COULD STRENGTHEN IT IN AREAS AND THAT IS PRIMARILY WHAT THIS IS ABOUT, RIGHT?

>> SPEAKER: IT IS. AND I DO BELIEVE THAT LOOKING AT THE PREACHINGS COMING DOWN THE PIPE, THE TEAM WILL MOVE MORE QUIRK LIE THROUGH THOSE MORE ROBUST CONTROLS AND CHECKS AND BALANCES. OBVIOUSLY IF YOU HAVE A SMALL TEAM TRYING TO HANDLE A VERY LARGE VOLUME OF TRANSACTIONS BECAUSE THE COUNTY HAS GROWN AND THE TEAM HAS NOT, THERE IS ADDITIONAL ACCOUNTING RISKS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, A SMALL TEAM TRYING TO HANDLE TOO MANY TRANSACTIONS, WE'RE MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO ERRORS AND PROBLEMS GETTING THROUGH AND THAT IS PART OF THE REASON FOR BEEFING UP THE TEAM. IF THE COUNTY HAS GROWN AND CONTINUED TO TAKE ON MORE PROJECTS.

>> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: WHERE I COME FROM THAT WE CALL THAT EFFICIENCY. DOING MORE WITH LESS. IN YOUR OPINION, IS THE COUNTY GETTING HALF A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF BENEFIT OUT OF THIS? I KNOW YOU ARE THE POLICEMAN WATCHING THE DOLLARS, BUT AS A BUSINESS, ARE WE

GETTING A HALF MILLION DOLLARS MORE FUNCTIONALITY OUT OF THIS? >> SPEAKER: WELL IT'S HARD FOR ME TO PUT IT IN INCOME TERMS BECAUSE THE ACCOUNTING TEAM AREN'T THERE TO GENERATE REVENUE. THEY'RE THERE TO PROTECT EXPENSES AND MAKE SURE THAT THINGS DON'T GO WRONG AND DO GET ACCOUNTED FOR CORRECTLY. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO QUANTIFY THAT SO I AM AFRAID I CAN'T

ANSWER THAT QUESTION. COMMISSION >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: OKAY. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: LET ME PICK UP ON THE COMMENT. WE'VE GOT X NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES NOW. ALBEIT THERE'S SOME AT THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND SOME HERE DOING THE JOB. WHEN WE COMBINE THESE, WHY DO WE NEED EIGHT MORE EMPLOYEES

IF THE EXISTING NUMBER IS ACTUALLY WORKING NOW? >> SPEAKER: WE ARE ADDING EXTRA FUNCTIONS AND EXTRA CONTROLS. I DO BELIEVES THAT THE RIGHT NUMBER. IT'S APPROPRIATE TO ADD MORE TO THE EXISTING TEAM TO HAVE MORE ROBUST CONTROLS FOR THE COUNTY THAT HAS GROWN AND CONTINUES TO GROW. AND THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL HANDOFFS AS WELL NOW THAT NOT ALL THE ACCOUNTING IS AT THE BOARD. THERE'S SOME ON THE CLERK'S SIDE AND THERE'S A HANDOFF BETWEEN THE TWO. BUT, TRUTHFULLY, IT'S ABOUT ADDING CONTROLS THAT EVEN NOW I THINK ARE BENEFICIAL AT

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THE CURRENT -- UNDER THE CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: SO NO FAT?

>> SPEAKER: NO FAT. NO: LIKE I SAID, I THINK IT IS THE RIGHT STRONG MODEL AND IT'S BACKED BY -- WELL IN LIKE WITH COMPARABLE COUNTIES. LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT TRYING TO DESIGN THE FERRARI BUT STRONGER ACCOUNTING CONTROLS WE CAN ALL SLEEP WELL AT NIGHT.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: TRUE. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: I WANT TO SLEEP WELL AT NIGHT BUT -- SO, BASICALLY, IF AMENDMENT 10 HAD NOT PASSED DO YOU THINK THAT OUR CURRENT SET-UP WOULD BE

ADEQUATE? >> SPEAKER: ADEQUATE IS SUBJECTIVE. I STILL THINK THERE COULD BE IMPROVEMENTS UNDER THE CURRENT SITUATION AS WELL. THE TRANSITION HAS SPARKED US TO LOOK AT THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND THE TEAMS WE WANT TO HAVE IN PLACE. IT'S TRIGGERED US TO DO THAT DETAIL ASSESSMENT OF WHAT DO WE WANT THIS TO LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE AND EVALUATE.

THERE IS AREA TO IMPROVE AND STRENGTHEN THE TEAM. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: BECAUSE IF THIS WAS DONE IN A VACUUM AND STAFF WAS LIKE LET'S EXPAND AND GROW THE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT AND ADD ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES, BUT STATE LAW CHANGED. SO THAT'S THE HARD THING. STATE LAW CHANGED AND SOUNDS LIKE MADE IT A MORE INEFFICIENT PROCESS SO WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO DO THE SAME FUNCTION. IF WE DON'T HAVE MORE PEOPLE WE'RE IN JEOPARDY OF NOT HAVING PROPER ACCOUNTABILITY.

SO, OBVIOUSLY, WANT TO HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY. SO, IT IS A TOUGH ONE. I HEAR WHAT COMMISSIONER BOLLA AND OTHERS ARE SAYING. BUT I THINK WE'RE KIND OF IN A BIND WITH THE WAY

STATE LAW HAS ADJUSTED THIS. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: ANOTHER UNFUNDED MANDATE. PRETTY MUCH.

>> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: I GUESS THIS WAS THE VOTERS WHO MADE THIS ONE RIGHT?

>> COMMISSIONER CELLA: MAYBE YOU CAN RUN DOWN, WE'RE GOING FROM 20 TO 27 BUT HOW IS THAT BROKEN

DOWN BASED ON THE BCC SIDE AND THE CLERK'S SIDE. >> SPEAKER: CURRENTLY ALL THE ACCOUNTING PRETTY MUCH SITS AT THE BOARD'S SIDE. SO THE CLERK WILL END UP WITH 12 INDIVIDUALS ON THEIR ACCOUNTING TEAM AND THERE WILL BE 15 ON THE BOARD'S SIDE. WE CURRENTLY HAVE -- THERE'S ONE INDIVIDUAL AT THE CLERK RIGHT NOW AND 19 ON THE BOARD SIDE. SO THE BOARD WOULD

REDUCE BY FOUR AND THE CLERK WOULD ADD 11. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: IN THAT REDUCTION DO WE HAVE SIMILAR POSITIONS OR ARE SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS -- OBVIOUSLY SOME OF

THEM HAVE TO GO AWAY. >> SPEAKER: THE POSITIONS -- THE MAJORITY OF POSITIONS THAT -- IN FACT ALL THE POSITIONS THAT WILL BE CREATED ON THE CLERK'S SIDE WILL BE TAKEN FROM THE BOARD'S SIDE. AND THE NEW POSITIONS WE TALKED ABOUT IN PURCHASING AND BUDGETING WILL BE CREATED ON THE

BOARD SIDE TO ADD THOSE ADDITIONAL CONTROLS. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: WHEN WE TALKED YOU DID INDICATE THAT THIS IS THE IDEAL SITUATION IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED. AND I THINK EARLIER -- AND THIS TRANSITION HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE SOMETIME WITH ROB AND IT WENT ON QUITE SOME TIME BEFORE THAT WITH THE CLERK'S STAFF AND EVEN PREDATING HOWARD. SO, I MEAN, THIS IS THE CULMINATION OF A LOT OF WORK AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT THERE WERE A COUPLE OF POSITIONS WHEREAS WE GET STARTED WE MAY EVEN BE ABLE TO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT FUNDING. SOME POSITIONS WE MAY NOT HAVE TO HAVE DAY ONE BUT WE COULD INCORPORATE THOSE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. SO WE MAY BE ABLE TO TAKE SOME OF THAT ADDITIONAL

MONEYS AND PUSH THAT INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR RIGHT? >> SPEAKER: YES. AND THE MAJORITY OF THIS IS GOING TO K ICK IN IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. AS YOU SAID, IF IT IS A TRANSITION PROCESS WHERE THEY DON'T GET HIRED DAY ONE, THERE ARE SOME KEY POSITIONS THAT MUST HAPPEN, THE EXISTING ONES. AND THE ADDITIONAL ONES COULD BE CERTAINLY LATER AND DOWN THE LINE. I GUESS TO MAKE MY POSITION CLEAR, THIS IS THE OLD CHART THAT I THINK AND I

RECOMMEND FOR THE LONG-TERM SUCCESS. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: YOU WERE

OUR AUDITOR LAST YEAR? AND WE PASSED THAT? >> SPEAKER: YEAH. YOU CERTAINLY

DID PASS. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: I'M JUST. -- I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS. YOU KNOW, I -- I AM STILL SCRATCHING MY HEAD. I UNDERSTAND WE CAN ALWAYS GET BETTER AT THINGS BUT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IS HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. AND IT'S GOT TO COME FROM SOME PLACE. AND IT'S GOING TO COME FROM OUR TAXPAYERS. AND I AGREE THAT IT'S NICE TO HAVE A GOOD SOUND MODEL HERE BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL TOUGH YOU KNOW.

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>> COMMISSIONER CELLA: RON, JUST AS YOU GET WRAPPED UP HERE AND WE DISCUSS WHAT TO DO, GIVE US AN IDEA AS TO WHAT THE NEXT STEP WILL BE FOR YOUR TRANSITION TEAM.

>> SPEAKER: ASSUMING WE GET TO AN ORGA AN OR G CHART THAT IS AGREED AND APPROVED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WE'D LOOK TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS. THEN WE'RE DESIGNING POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THOSE TEAMS WILL FOLLOW TO EXECUTE ACCOUNTING CONTROLS. SO THOSE ARE THE NEXT STEPS. THE ORG CHART WAS THE MAIN THING TO DISCUSS. THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT THE TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING ON. AS PART OF THE TRANSITION IF WE ADD NEW PEOPLE THEY NEED THE EQUIPMENT -- CHAIRS AND TABLES AND COMPUTERS -- TO WORK ON. SO, I WANTED EVERYONE TO BE AWARE THERE WILL BE SOME ELEMENT OF COSTS. THE TEAM IS LOOKING AT S POSSIBLE SO WE DON'T HAVE A CH GOOD ESTIMATE ON THAT COST BUT JUST TO BE AWARE THAT'S GOING TO BE TRIGGERED THROUGH THIS. ALSO THREW THE PROCESS WE'VE LOOKED -- AND IT'S KIND OF BECOME EVIDENT THAT A NEW I.T. SYSTEM COVERING FINANCE, HER AND BUDGETING -- HR AND BUDGETING IS SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY SHOULD LOOK INTO. SO THAT'S AN EXPENSIVE PIECE THAT HAS COME TO LIGHT. THAT SYSTEM IS APPROXIMATELY $2 MILLION FOR IMPLEMENTATION AND FIRST YEAR LICENSES IS THE CURRENT ESTIMATE. BUT I KNOW THE I.T.

GUYS ARE WORKING ON NEGOTIATING THAT AND GETTING THE BEST DEAL. AND I DON'T HAVE MANY MORE DETAILS, BUT I KNOW TROY IS AWARE THAT HE'S THE I.T. GUY WHO CAN PROVIDE THE DETAILS IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION ON THE I.T. ASPECT. BUT THAT'S REALLY THE FULL OPERATIVE FROM THE TRANSITION TEAM. THE KEY MESSAGE IS WHAT ORG CHART IS EVERYONE COMFORTABLE WITH US MOVING

FORWARD WITH AND FILLING THE POSITIONS WITH. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: GOODNESS WE'RE IN THE WRONG BUSINESS. $2 MILLION FOR A NEW I.T. SYSTEM. DOESN'T EXSELL DO A LOT OF IT? NOT ENOUGH. MR. CHAIR, IS IT POSSIBLE TO JUST GET THE CLERK OF THE COURT,

I AM ASSUMING THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS CHART. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: I WAS GOING TO ASK HER AS SOON AS WE GOT THROUGH WITH ROB. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ROB? ALL RIGHT.

WE DO HAVE OUR MADAM CLERK HERE TODAY. ANY COMMENTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE OR OBSERVATIONS OR

QUESTIONS OR WHATEVER? >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. NO, THEY'VE BEEN VERY OPEN IN DISCUSSIONS. A LOT OF DEBATING BACK AND FORTH WITH WHAT'S GOING TO WORK ON THE BOARD SIDE, WHAT'S GOING TO WORK ON THE CLERK'S SIDE TO ENSURE WE HAVE THE CONTROLS IN PLACE. AS ROB MENTIONED. SO, I AM IN FULL AGREEMENT WITH WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED TODAY. FOR THE CLERK

SIDE. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: THAT HALF MILLION IS COMING OUT OF YOUR

BUDGET? >> SPEAKER: I CAN CUT YOU $100 CHECK

[LAUGHTER] >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: WE'RE GLAD YOU ARE HAPPY WITH IT BECAUSE YOU ARE PROBABLY -- SINCE YOU ARE HERE EVERY DAY YOU PROBABLY KNOW THE NUTS AND BOLTS BETTER

THAN WE DO >> SPEAKER: I THINK IT IS A GOOD MODEL. THERE WAS A LOT OF RESEARCH DONE IN OTHER COUNTIES AS THIS HAS BEEN THE MODEL IN A LOT OF THE COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. JUST DIFFERENT FOR CLAY BECAUSE CLAY WAS A CHARTER COUNTY. SO WE MADE SURE WE DIDN'T REINVENT THE WHEEL OR REWRITE THE BOOK. WE WENT TO SITUATIONS TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER TO IMPLEMENT THIS IN THE MOST COST-EFFECTIVE WAY.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: OKAY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. WHEN WILL WE HEAR FROM ROB AGAIN? HAVE YOU

GOT A TIMELINE? >> SPEAKER: I DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE A TIMELINE BUT IT DEPENDS ON HOW WE PROCEED WITH THE ORG CHARTS AS TO WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE. IF WE GET AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CHART WE'RE GOING PROCEED WITH -- OR DICTATE WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: A MONTH, TWO MONTHS? >> SPEAKER: PROBABLY.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: THANK YOU. MOVING ON. WE HAVE SOLITE UPDATE AND COMMUNITY DISCUSSION.

>> COMMISSIONER CELLA: I BELIEVE ROB NEEDS AN ACTION ITEM HERE TO VOTE ON THE ORG CHARTS.

>> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: I GOT ONE QUESTION. THE COUNTY MANAGER, $500,000, IS THAT DOABLE FOR OUR

BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR? >> SPEAKER: FOR RIGHT NOW WITH ESTIMATE REVENUES, THE ANSWER WOULD BE YES. BUT THERE'S UNKNOWNS WITH THAT. I DO LIKE F SUGGESTION AND I THINK

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THE PURCHASING POLICY WILL BE COMING UP FOR PRESENTATION ALSO FOR A CHANGE IN THAT SO THAT WE CAN TRANSITION THE NEW POLICIES UPON BOARD APPROVAL ON THAT. WHEN IT -- ROB KIND OF ALLUDED TO THE TWO ADDITIONAL THINGS. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE SOFTWARE THAT'S SERVICED THAT THIS ALL ENCOMPASSING SOFT WAIVER. WE WENT DOWN TO PORT ORANGE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. THEY HAD A 12-MONTH TRANSITION. THEY HIRED SOMEBODY THREE YEARS PRIOR AS A CHANGE MANAGER AND PROGRAM MANAGER TO INCORPORATE THE SOFTWARE INTO THEIR CITY DOWN THERE. AND THEY'RE IN MONTH I THINK IT'S TWO, TROY, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT. AND IT IS FANTASTIC. WE HAD A SLIGHT DEMO DOWN THERE. I KNOW THE CLERK'S OFFICE HAD A DEMO TODAY. THAT HELPS OUT WITH COMMUNICATION RIGHT. AND MAKING THINGS RUN SMOOTHLY. THE SECOND IMPORTANT PART TO TALK ABOUT. AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND WE'VE GONE OVER WITH THE HELP OF JAMES AND JUDGE LESTER, WE HAVE TO FIND SPACE. AND SPACE IS KEY AND CRITICAL TO THIS. WE HAVE AN INTERIM PLAN THAT WILL BE BRIEFED LATER ON. WHERE THOSE TEAM MEMBERS WOULD BE LOCATED AND OPERATING OUT OF. THEN A FOLLOW ON. WHAT WE COULD DO ON THE SECOND DECK, SECOND FLOOR OF THE COURTHOUSE WITH REGARDS TO WHERE THE OTHER TWO COURTHOUSES ARE PLANNED IN THE FUTURE. AND WE'VE BEEN IN CONSULT WITH JUDGELESSOR THAT. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS RUNNING IN PARALLEL. I BELIEVE WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND ENSURE WE HAVE THE MONEY SET FOR THAT. AGAIN, I'M GOING TO -- AS WE GO INTO THE BUDGETARY SEASON, YOU KNOW, I WILL BRIEF YOU ALL ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO. AND, OBVIOUSLY, MY FOCUS HAS ALWAYS BEEN NOT TO RAISE TAXES. SO, I'LL LET YOU KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE OR NOT AS WE GO INTO THE BUDGETARY SEASON.

>> COMMISSIONER CELLA: THE $2 MILLION ON THE SOFTWARE IS A CIP ITEM RIGHT? OR NO?

>> SPEAKER: THERE'S DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER IT COULD BE CONSIDERED CIP OR NOT. AND ROB'S

BEEN IN ON THAT TOO. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: CAN WE GET THE OPINION THAT SAYS YES?

>> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: IF IT DOESN'T LAST FIVE YEARS I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD PUT $2 MILLION

INTO IT. >> SPEAKER: THERE ARE OTHER SYSTEMS OUT THERE TOO -- OBVIOUSLY THAT'S JUST ONE PARTICULAR VENDOR. THERE ARE QUITE A FEW VENDORS. AND THE BATTLE SPACE SO TO SPEAK ON THAT. AND IN EACH ONE COMES WITH THEIR OWN LITTLE TWIST TO IT.

AND FOR INSTANCE ADP WAS ONE THAT WE USED IN THE CAR BUSINESS. AND, YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY HAVE A LOCK ON IT, COMMISSIONER ROLLINS, THEY CAN CHARGE YOU PRETTY MUCH WHATEVER THEY WANT. ONCE YOU ARE IN. BUT THERE IS NEGOTIATING ROOM TO ENSURE THAT WE SELECT THE BEST

ONE ON THE FUNCTIONS THAT WE LIKE AND AT THE RIGHT COST. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: IT'S PROBABLY ALSO A GOOD IDEA TO GET THE PEOPLE IN PLACE AND GET THE THING WORKING BEFORE WE CHANGE

THE SYSTEM THAT'S GOING TO HELP US DO IT. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING: MR. LEMON, WE HAVE TWO ORG CHARTS. COULD YOU JUST CONFIRM WHICH ONE IS THE COUNTY AND

WHICH ONE IS THE CLERK? >> SPEAKER: YES. THE ONE WITH 15 PEOPLE WHICH HAS IS THE BOLD.

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>> COMMISSIONER CELLA: I'D LIKE TO JUMP IN HERE AND COMPLIMENT ROB ON HIS MANAGEMENT OF THE TRANSITION TEAM. OF COURSE WE'VE HAD FOLKS FROM BOTH THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND OUR OFFICES WORKING ON THIS FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS NOW. AND ROB AND HIS GROUP HAVE TAKEN IT A LONG WAY IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US LIKE TO SEE INCREASED COSTS PASSED ALONG TO THE TAXPAYERS BUT, IN THIS CASE, TAXPAYERS VOTED TO IMPLEMENT THIS CHANGE SO WE'VE GOT TO DO IT THE BEST WAY WE CAN. BUT IT IS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS. IT'S BEEN GOING ON SINCE I THINK EARLY PART OF 2019 THAT THIS STARTED. THEN WE BROUGHT ROB ON TO HELP US TO GET WHERE WE ARE TODAY. SO, I'M NOT CRAZY ABOUT SPENDING ADDITIONAL MONEYS THAT'S WHY I ASKED ABOUT MAYBE THOSE POSITIONS THAT COULD BE HELD OFF A LITTLE BIT. ESPECIALLY NOT HOPEFUL THAT THAT $2 MILLION CAN'T BE SPENT ON CIP. BUT THAT WOULD PUT A HURT IN OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET. BUT I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER WAY THAN TO MOVE FORWARD. HE IS SOMEBODY THAT WE PAID TO GIVE US OPINIONS AND THIS IS THE BEST WAY HE THINKS WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD. WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A

MOTION TO ADOPT THE ORG CHART AS PRESENTED. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: IS THERE A

SECOND? >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING: I'LL SECOND IT.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: WE STILL

DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN AFFORD THIS IS THAT WHAT I HEARD FROM YOU? >> SPEAKER: IT WILL DEPEND UPON THE PRIORITIES AS WE APPROACH THE BUDGET. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO WEIGH IT OUT. I CAN BRIEF YOU ON

THAT. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: BUT THE INTENTION AS I UNDERSTAND IT AFTER WE APPROVE THIS WE'RE GOING TO START HIRING PEOPLE INTO THESE BOXES. IS THAT TRUE?

>> SPEAKER: THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR -- WELL THAT'S WHY I ASKED ROB TO PRIORITIZE THE ONES THAT WE COULD THIS FISCAL YEAR THAT HE CAN GET WITH THE STAFF. I THINK GIVING US DIRECTION WE CAN

HIRE CERTAIN KEY POSITIONS CERTAINLY. >> SPEAKER: YES WE WOULD MOVE AHEAD UNLESS WE'RE INSTRUCTED TO DO IT IN A FAZED APPROACH AND STAGGERED APPROACH. WE COULD OBVIOUSLY DO THAT. BUT IF IT'S ADOPTED AND YOU WOULD LIKE IT TO BE FULLY IMPLEMENTED STRAIGHT

AWAY THEN -- >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: I JUST LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE CAN PAY FOR

IT. IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE KNOW THAT YET. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: FURTHER

DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: HOLD ON.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: I DIDN'T

KNOW WE ENDED DISCUSSION. CAUGHT OFF GUARD. GO AHEAD. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED. AYE. THE MOTION PASSES 4-1. OKAY. MOVING ON TO PRESENTATIONS. OUR SECOND PRESENTATION IS THE SOLITE UPDATE. AND WE WILL START BY GIVING OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY A FEW MOMENTS TO PRESENT HER INITIAL BRIEF.

>> SPEAKER: SURE. IN FOLLOW UP AS YOU WILL RECALL AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING I ADVISED THAT THE DEP HAD ACCEPTED A FAZED SCHEDULE TO DO SOME FURTHER TESTING IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOLITE PROPERTY. I HAVE FOLLOWED UP WITH THE DEP AND WHAT I HAVE LEARNED IN CONNECTION WITH THAT FAZED SCHEDULE IS THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SCHEDULE WHAT WILL ACTUALLY OCCUR IS DURING EACH SEGMENT THERE WILL BE A STUDY DONE THAT WILL THEN SHOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. IF THERE'S CORRECTIVE MEASURES THAT NEED TO BE DONE. A PLAN OF IMPLEMENTATION WILL BE THEN PRESENTED WITH THOSE TEST RESULTS AND THAT DATA TO THE DEPP. THE DEP HAS A PERIOD OF TIME OF 60 DAYS. THEY HOPE IT WON'T TAKE THAT FULL TIME BUT THEY HAVE 60 DAYS TO REVIEW THAT AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT TO APPROVE THAT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN OR WHETHER CERTAIN REVISIONS ARE NEEDED OR ADDITIONAL TESTING. ONCE THEY APPROVE THAT PLAN, YOU CAN -- THEY'LL THEN ALLOW THE PROPERTY OWNER TO MOVE TO THE SECOND PHASE. SO, WHEN YOU REVIEW THE FAZED SCHEDULE, AS YOU WILL RECALL THE FIRST SCHEDULE PHASE, THE TESTING HAS TO BE COMPLETED AND THE PLAN INTRODUCED BY APRIL 27, 2020. IT THEN PROVIDES THAT THE NEXT PHASE WOULD START 60 DAYS FROM THE DEP APPROVAL OF THAT PREVIOUS PLAN. SO IT WILL TAKE QUITE SOMETIME BUT THE DEP SAID,

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THAN HAPPY TO COME AND DISCUSS IT, WHATEVER WE NEED. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: I'M SURE WE WILL. SO, THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING HAVE TWO SPEAKERS ADDRESS THIS THEN THE BALANCE OF THE GOOD FOLKS HERE THAT WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS WILL BE HEARD UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS WHICH WILL BE A COUPLE OF ITEMS DOWN THE AGENDA. SO, LIKE TO GET MY FIRST TWO SPEAKERS AT THIS TIME.

FIRST ONE WILL BE MR. GILLIS. COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE, SIR. IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND GIVE YOUR

ADDRESS. ONE OR BOTH. HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT. >> SPEAKER: DR. KRISTIN BURKE, 1812 COUNTY ROAD 209B GREEN COVE SPRINGS, FLORIDA. I HAVE HANDOUTS OKAY.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THOSE WHO DIDN'T GET THE WHOLE INFORMATION PACKAGE.

THERE IS NO VOTE TONIGHT ON THIS. THERE'S NOTHING TO VOTE. IT'S JUST A PRESENTATION FROM THE GOOD FOLKS AT SOLITE AND WHAT LITTLE BIT THAT WE KNOW AS FAR AS INFORMATION SHARING. GO

AHEAD, MA'AM. >> SPEAKER: THE GOOD FOLKS AT RUSSELL LANDING NOT SOLITE.

WE'RE FROM RUSSELL LANDING. ALL RIGHT. WE KNOW THAT ALL OF YOU OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AS WELL

AS THE PLANNING >> COMMISSIONER: KNOW THE HISTORY OF SOLITE. WHEN SOLITE CAME BACK TO WORK OUT A DEAL FOR DEVELOPMENT THEY MUST HAVE BELIEVED THE PEOPLE THEY HAD POISONED BECAUSE MANY HAD, MOVED OR FORGOTTEN WHAT THEY DID. WE HAVE NOT FORGOT. I'M HERE TO REMIND YOU OF SOLITE'S SHAMELESS ACTIONS AND NOW LACK OF ACTION. IN THE EARLY '70S, AND THIS IS A PICTURE, SOLITE NOT ONLY DISREGARDED CLAY'S ORDINANCE OF NO HAZARDOUS WASTE BURNING BUT MADE THE DECISION TO DISREGARD LAWS AND SAFETY REGULATIONS REGARDING THE PROCESSING, STORING AND BURNING OF HAZARDOUS WASTE SUCH AS ARSENIC, CYANIDE, MERCURY. AS HE STATED THEY KNOWINGLY ALLOWED THEIR EQUIPMENT TO CORRODE AND DUMP TOXIC ASH ON THE GROUND. PAST EMPLOYEES SAID BURYING THE POISON IN THE HOLES AND BARRELS WAS COMMON. THE SPOTS THAT I DUMPED WERE MARKED ON A GRID. AT NIGHT THEY MAXIMIZED POWER. UNUSUAL CANCERS, BIRTH DEFECTS AND RAIL ILLNESSES BECAME COMMON IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE I LIVE. THE TOXINS AT THE EPA FOUND WERE KNOWN CARCINOGENS THAT CAUSED ORGAN DAMAGE, RETARDATION, COMAS, DIFFERENT TYPES OF CANCER AND DEATH AND MANY OTHER SEVERILNESSES. ALL OF WHICH WERE OCCURRING IN THE RUSS COMMUNITY.

IN 1995 NEIGHBORS BANNED TOGETHER AND ASKED THE COMMISSION TO AUTHORIZE A SUD STUDY INTO THE ILLNESSES AND DEATHS. I'VE HEARD FROM MANY THERE THAT DAY THEY WERE TOO EMOTIONAL OR MAYBE EVEN FRANTIC. TO THAT I SAY I CAN PUT MYSELF IN THEIR SHOES. I KNOW THEY WERE

TRULY SCARED LITERALLY TO DEATH. THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO GET THE >> COMMISSIONER: AT THE TIME TO HELP THEM. -- COMMISSION. SO, I SHADOWED A SMALL COMMUNITY WITH THEIR TOXIN WASTE BUT SOLITE WAS FORCED AT THAT TIME TO PAY FOR THE WRONGDOINGS AND HEALTH TESTING ORDERED FOR ALL WHO REQUESTED IT. WHEN NEIGHBORS ALONG WITH GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WEIGHTING AT THE GATE THEY DISCOVERED SOLITE HAD DISAPPEARED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT IN 1995. I ASKED IN JUNE 2018 WHERE DID ALL OF THAT GO IN THAT FIRST PICTURE. IN MID-2018 WHEN SOLITE CAME BACK WITH PLANS TO BUILD A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY ON THE LAND THEY HAD POISONED WE HAD THE COMMISSON BEFORE YOU HERE TODAY AND YOU SAID NO AND TOLD SOLITE THEY MUST CLEAN THEIR PROPERTY. COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS TOOK TIME OUT OF HER BUSY SCHEDULE AND DROVE TO TALLAHASSEE TO ATTEND THE MEETING. OUR COMMUNITY IS THANKFUL TO YOU FOR THAT. SOLITE IS BACK IN 2020 NOW WANTING TO BUILD A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON WHAT THEY SAY IS UNCONTAMINATED LAND. MY NEIGHBORS AND MYSELF KNOW SOLITE CANNOT BE TRUSTED. BECAUSE FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS THEY'VE PROVE ON THE EH FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE STATE AND PEOPLE OF CLAY COUNTY THEY CANNOT BE TRUSTED. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE AIR ARE EXCAVATED FOR BUILDING. WE KNOW

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JUST RECENTLY, WE HAVE NEW NEIGHBORS WHO WERE TOLD NOT TO WORRY ABOUT SOLITE PROPERTY.

IT'S JUST A HUNTING CLUB. ANOTHER COUPLE MOVED FROM ANOTHER STATE AND LIVES THREE DRIVEWAYS DOWN FROM THE PROPERTY AND THEY WERE TOLD NOTHING ABOUT SOLITE'S HISTORY. MY KIDS AND HUSBAND HAVE SWAM AND FISHED IN THE LAKE FOR 14 YEARS. IN AUGUST 2018 MY HUSBAND BECAME HOSPITALIZED RIGHT AFTER OUR LAST MEETING WITH YOU ALL. THEY SAID IT LOOKED LIKE HE HAD SOME TYPE OF INFECTION BUT THEY COULDN'T DETERMINE WHAT THE ILLNESS WAS AND AFTER A WEEK'S DAY IN THE HOSPITAL WE WERE VERY SCARED. NURSES TOLD US THEY HAD BEEN WORE WHY IED HE WAS NOT GOING TO MAKE IT. WE STILL TO THIS DAY DO NOT KNOW WHAT CAUSED HIS SEVERE UNUSUAL ILLNESS.

THREE MONTHS AFTER THAT, NOVEMBER 2018, MY 13-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER WHO WAS ALWAYS AN ATHLETE AND LOVED RUNNING, STARTING HAVING SEVERE HIP PAIN. AFTER EIGHT MONTHS OF CRYING HERSELF TO SLEEP EVERY NIGHT OF PAIN OF GOING TO DOZENS OF DOCTORS AND EMERGENCY ROOMS, HAVING FOUR MRI'S, TWO BIOPSIES, A BONE CAN, A YEAR AFTER THE HORRIFIC PAIN STARTED HE HAD ONLY BEEN ABLE TO WALK WITH CRUTCHES FOR A YEAR. WE FOUND A DOCTOR WHO TOLD US SOMETHING HAD LITERALLY EATEN AWAY HER BONE. THE HEAD OF HER HIP AND HER HIP COULD NOT BE SAVED. HE SAID WHATEVER WAS IN THERE CAME IN, DID THE DAMAGE AND LEFT. I GUESS HER IMMUNE SYSTEM FOUGHT IT. HE SENT ACTUAL PIECES OF HER HIP TO THE LOCAL MAYO AND THEY COULD FIND NOTHING. EVERY TIME BLOOD TESTING WAS DONE THERE'S NOTHING TO EXPLAIN. IN NOVEMBER 2019 OUR 13-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER BECAME THE YOUNGEST TO HAVE A TOTAL HIP REPLACEMENT IN JACKSONVILLE. THIS IS HER HIP NOW. HE GAVE US -- SO YES OF COURSE WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR A NEW HIP THAT SHE CAN LIVE HER LIFE AND BE A KID AGAIN BUT WE HAVE NO PROOF THIS IS FROM SOLITE'S NEGLIGENCE OF COURSE. SHE IS A CASE STUDY AT SOUTHEAST ORTHOPEDICS AND THEY'RE STILL SEARCHING FOR THE CAUSE. NOW WE'RE FACED WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF SOLITE BEING APPROVED FOR DEVELOPMENT OF SOME KIND. THE LAST PICTURE WAS MY DAUGHTER'S HIP. THEY ACTUALLY GAVE US A PICTURE OF IT. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE WHITE. NICE WHITE BONE. AND IT WAS ALL EATEN UP. YOU CAN DEFINITELY SEE IT. THEY SENT IT AWAY FOR TESTING TOO. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THERE IS IT WILL AFFECT THOSE AROUND THE PROPERTY THAT TEST IT, CLEAN IT AND ALL THOSE WHO LIVE WITHIN MILES OF IT. IT WILL AFFECT PEOPLE YOUNG AND OLD. WHO WILL ACCEPT THE LIABILITY WHICH SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED TO MY DAUGHTER OR HUSBAND HAPPENS TO TENS. I AM PLEADING WITH YOU TO HELP US FIGHT SOLITE AND NOT ALLOW THEM TO CAUSE ANYMORE IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE. IF THIS IS APPROVED WE'VE BEEN TOLD THE COUNTY WOULD BE SUED. SO, WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO GET AN ATTORNEY? IT IS MY HOPE AND MY PRAYER THAT YOU REMEMBER THIS PICTURE OF MY LITTLE GIRL. WHEN YOU THINK OF SOLITE, AND PROMISE TO HELP US.

HELP US STOP SOLITE FROM INJURING OR KILLING ANYMORE OF OUR CITIZENS.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: THANK YOU, MS. BURKE. MR. GILL IS >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: RANDY GILL IS 1807 COUNTY ROAD B. I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM KRISTEN NEXT TO THE SOLITE PROPERTY. I WANT TO THANK YU FOR HEARING US TODAY. I'M NOT SURE EVERYONE REMEMBERS ME OR ANY OF THE OTHER FOLKS INDIVIDUALLY FROM THE WONDERFUL MEETING THAT WE HAD BUT KRISTEN JUST MENTIONED JUNE 26TH OF 2018. I'M GOING SPEAK JUST FOR A MOMENT ABOUT THAT MEETING BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE SOME RECOLLECTIONS BROUGHT BACK. ALSO WANT TO CALL OUR ATTENTION TO THE MISSION STATEMENT OF THE BOARD. I WANT TO READ JUST A PARTIAL SNIPPET OF IT. ITS MISSION TO PROVIDE FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE, SAFETY AND HEALTH OF THE COUNTY CITIZENS. I CANNOT THINK OF AN ISSUE AS PRESSING FOR THE SAFETY AND HEALTH OF CLAY COUNTY CITIZENS THAN THIS. ALTHOUGH I HAVE BEEN ADVISED THERE MIGHT BE SOME BARRELS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE

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AND I WOULD BE EXTREMELY IRRITATED IF I THOUGHT THAT OUR LACK OF ACTION IS GOING TO HARM HIM OR ANY OF HIS LITTLE FRIENDS WHO PLAY IN THE YARD NEXT DOOR. AT THE MEETING I HEARD -- BY THE WAY, MY WIFE MADE ME WATCH THE FOUR-HOUR VIDEO PRESENTATION MULTIPLE TIMES AND YOU HAVE TO PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF I GOT ANY OF THESE WORDS WRONG. HERE IS MY GET OUT OF JAIL FREE. WE UNDERSTAND ANYTHING YOU MIGHT HAVE SAID WAS JUST A COMMENT. BUT SOME OF US LEFT THAT ROOM WITH THOSE COMMENTS SETTING A LITTLE BIT OF AN EXPECTATION ABOUT ACTION. BY THE WAY, PROVIDE FOR, THE WORDS IN OUR MISSION STATEMENT, IS AN ACTIVE WORD OR PHRASE. IT DOESN'T MEAN SIT BACK AND WAIT ON THINGS TO HAPPEN. IT WAS SAID THAT THERE WOULD BE NO SEPARATION OF THE SOLITE TRACK INTO MULTIPLE PARTIALS FOR INDEPENDENT DEVELOPMENT. I FOUND AND I CAN SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW I WOULD BE COMING BACK WITH THAT SAME REQUEST IN THE FUTURE. I THINK EVERY ONE OF YOU NEED TO BE PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION TODAY AND TOMORROW AND EVERY DAY BETWEEN NOW AND THAT DAY WHEN IT HAPPENS. BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THAT WOULD BE MY PREDICTION. I BELIEVE THAT YOU SAID THERE WOULD BE NO DEVELOPMENT BASED ON THE LAND INCENTIVES THAT WERE INCLUDED TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT. AND THOSE LAMP INCENTIVES WOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE LAMP. I'M PRETTY CERTAIN THEY HAVEN'T BEEN REMOVED. AND NOT ONE PERSON HERE SUGGESTED THEY SHOULD BE REMOVED BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. YOU DON'T NEED TO EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THAT HASN'T HAPPENED BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY IT HASN'T HAPPENED AND IT SCARES ME IT HASN'T HAPPENED. DO YOU ALL THINK IT SHOULD BE DEVELOPED, JUST STAND UP AND SAY SO. YOU SAID THE ENTIRE SOLITE TRACK NEEDED TO BE CLEANED UP AS AN AFFIRMATION TO THE EVIDENCE, FIRST-HAND EVIDENCE THAT WAS

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BUT YOUR COMMENT IMPLIED THAT THE ENTIRE TRACK WOULD BE CLEANED UP. WE ARE NOT FINISHING THE JOB HERE. AND I'M SCARED AND MY FRIENDS ARE SCARED ABOUT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN BY INACTION. NOW LET ME JUST BRING US BACK. THAT WAS HISTORY. WHAT'S GOING ON NOW? IT'S A MATTER OF RECORD. THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED OCULUS AT THE STATE WHERE THEY CAN KEEP ALL OF THEIR RECORDS. IT'S FREE FOR EVERYBODY TO ACCESS, BY THE WAY. SO, I'VE TAKEN THE LIBERTY OF GOING THROUGH EVERY MEETING AND EVERY LETTER THAT SOLITE AND FDEP HAVE EXCHANGED. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE JARGON THAT'S INVOLVED THERE BUT SOME OF IT IS A LITTLE SCARY. AS PART OF ANY FURTHER COMMUNICATION STRATEGY WE'D LIKE TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME CLEAN ABOUT THAT IF THEY COULD.

BUT IT'S CERTAIN THAT SOLITE'S MOVING FORWARD WITH SOMETHING. OKAY. THEY MIGHT JUST BE GETTING TO THE END OF THE PLAN AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO SIT ON IT FOR ANOTHER 27 YEARS WHILE NATURE DOES IT IS WORK. I DON'T KNOW. THAT WASN'T WHAT WE ALL THOUGHT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AND I CERTAINLY DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NOW. BUT IT IS CERTAIN THAT SOLITE HAS SOME INTENTION THAT I DON'T KNOW ANY OF YOU KNOW, WE THE COMMUNITY CERTAINLY DON'T KNOW. AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH MR. GELLIANO. HE SEEM TO BE A REASONABLE PERSON OR HIS REPRESENTATIVE WHICH ACCORDING TO THE RECORD PRESENTED TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION. ON THE SAME DAY THAT MR. LEHMAN PRESENTED ANOTHER CHANGE TO THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN RELATIVE TO SOLITE. BY THE WAY, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT CHANGE TO THE LAMP WAS. IT'S SIMPLY A MATTER OF RECORD THAT ONE WAS PRESENTED RELATIVE TO SOLITE. IT WOULD BE QUITE INTERESTING TO KNOW THAT THE WORD "WILL" WAS CHANGED TO SHALL IN BOTH COPIES. INSTEAD OF THE WORD SHALL BEING CHANGED TO WILL. BUT WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION, AGAINST ANY RATIONALE REASONING, SUPPORTED DEVELOPMENT OF SOLITE. SO, I'M NOT SURPRISED BY WHATEVER MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED THERE BUT I EXPECT THE BOARD TO HAVE KNOWN CLEARLY WHAT THE LAMP WAS BEING CHANGED FOR SOLITE ABOUT AND HOPED IT WAS A POS POSITIVE THING FOR THE COMMUNITY AND NOT SOMETHING ELSE. THERE ARE CONTINUING ACTIVITIES ON THE SOLITE PROPERTY AND I HOPE IT'S JUST HUNTERS EXERCISING THEIR RIGHT FROM THE LEASE TO USE THE PROPERTY. BUT I CAN'T VOUCH FOR YOU BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO ON THERE AND WE DON'T. I'D LIKE SOMEBODY TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. OKAY. IT JUST MAKES RATIONAL SENSE. SO WHAT ARE WE REALLY ASKING YOU TO DO? THANK YOU AGAIN FOR LETTING ME HAVE THIS TIME. WE WANT YOU TO CURE THIS COMMUNICATION PROBLEM. LISTEN, THERE'S MULTIPLE FACETS TO ANYTHING THIS COMPLICATED. THERE'S STONERIDGE. THERE'S THE BOARD. THERE'S FDEP. THERE'S THE COUNTY MANAGER. THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY OTHER THAN THE RUSSELL LANDING COMMUNITY THAT LIVE IN THE VICINITY. ALL OF US WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. IT HAS TO START SOMEWHERE AND IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE RANDY GILL IS READING THE MINUTES OF YOUR MEETING WHICH DON'T HAVE ANY DETAILS IN THEM BY THE WAY JUST ALARMING SIMPLE STATEMENTS. OR TRYING TO

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THIS IS HOW WE PLAN TO EDUCATE THE NEXT BOARD MEMBERS. LISTEN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IN COMMUNICATION. AND WE WANT TO BE HELPFUL. WE WANT TO BE PROACTIVE. WE WANT TO BE FAIR, IF THAT CAN BE USED AS A WORD. WE DON'T WANT TO BE SCARED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

WE DON'T DESERVE TO BE SCARED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. IF YOU WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY I JUST MENTIONED, FROM MR. GALLIANO TO THE FDEP, LET'S JUST HAVE OPEN COMMUNICATION ABOUT THIS SOMEHOW SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A SINGLE GOAL OF REMOVING FEAR FROM THIS PROCESS. WHATEVER THE PROCESS IS GOING TO BE, LET'S MAKE THAT OUR GOAL. IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER GOAL. MR. CHAIRMAN, I APPRECIATE THIS TIME VERY MUCH. BOARD MEMBERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LETTING ME STAND UP AND TALK TO

YOU ALL TODAY. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: THANK YOU MR. GILLIS. WELL SAID. I'M THINKING PROBABLY AT LEAST FOR RIGHT NOW IF WE HAD A DIRECT DIALOGUE WITH YOU OR YOUR PEOPLE AS FAR AS ANYTHING THAT WE FIND OUT, WE KNOW, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD STEP IN THE

RIGHT DIRECTION AS FAR AS COMMUNICATION. >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: YES, SIR,

BOSS, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: AND ANOTHER DIRECTION TOO. BUT I WOULD SUGGEST AND I'LL SEE WHAT THE BOARD THINKS. YOU GOT FIVE OF US SITTING UP HERE. IN THE ESSENCE OF PUTTING SOME ACCOUNTABILITY TO THAT DIALOGUE, I WOULD CERTAINLY ASSUME THE RESPONSIBILITY OF EVERYTHING THAT I GET AND MOST OF IT WOULD PROBABLY COME THROUGH OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY BECAUSE SHE'S IN THAT TUBE OF INFORMATION AND SOMETIMES THERE'S NOT MUCH OF IT AND SOMETIMES THERES -- THERE IS BUT I WOULD CERTAINLY VOLUNTEER TO GET WHATEVER INFORMATION SHE CAN PROVIDE TO ME ON A REGULAR OR IRREGULAR BASIS AND FORWARD THAT INFORMATION DIRECTLY TO YOU EITHER TELL AFOHNCALLY OR IN WRITING IF THAT WOULD BE SATISFACTORY. AND THEN A YEAR FROM NOW, AS YOU SAY, WELL THE BCC DIDN'T TELL US ABOUT THIS. IT WON'T BE THE BCC THAT WILL TELL YOU ABOUT IT IT WILL BE ME. SO, YOU WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE OTHER FOUR FOLKS. THAT WAY YOU WILL HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY AS FAR AS THE INFORMATION. IS THAT -- COUNTY ATTORNEY, COUNTY

MANAGER, ANYONE? >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: I AM IN FAVOR OF THAT. EVEN IF THE MINUTES DON'T SPELL IT OUT THEY'RE ALL TELL FIDESED AND FACEBOOK LIVED, THEY'RE ALL

RECORDED. I KNOW IT IS A LOT TO GO THROUGH BUT THERE'S NO -- >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: IT'S

IMPOSSIBLE TO GO THROUGH IT. THAT IS NOT AN EFFECTIVE ANSWER. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: CAN I

FINISH WHAT I AM SAYING. >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: YES PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: I AM SAYING THERE'S NO ATTEMPT TO HIDE ANY OF THE INFORMATION. AND, YOU KNOW, WE LISTENED RESPECTFULLY AND I WOULD EXPECT THE SAME IN RESPONSE. SO, I GUESS THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, I MEAN, I THOUGHT WE WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CLEAN UP AND THERE IS NO ZONING CHANGE OR

DEVELOPMENT THAT I AM AWARE OF PENDING, IS THERE? >> SPEAKER: NO. WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED -- AND I BELIEVE ED IS HERE AS WELL. BUT WE DO NOT HAVE ANY CURRENT APPLICATIONS

PRESENTED TO US. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: AND I KNOW THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA LAND TRUST AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS ARE LOOKING AT POSSIBLE PURCHASE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE OR AREN'T. THAT'S UP TO THEM. THEY'RE PRIVATE ORGANIZATION. BUT I WOULD

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HAPPENING? >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: THAT'S BEEN MY UNDERSTANDING. I DON'T KNOW ANYMORE THAT YOU DO AND WE GET MOST OF OUR INFORMATION THROUGH OUR ATTORNEYS. SHE JUST GAVE US AN UPDATE. THAT'S ALL WE'VE GOT. THE DEP IS TAKING THE LEAD ON THIS. THEY PREEMPTED BECAUSE AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO DO MUCH. WE HAVEN'T REZONED ANYTHING. WE DIDN'T CHANGE THE DENSITY. I BELIEVE WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, AS I RECALL, AND THE REASON WE DIDN'T CHANGE IT AT THAT TIME IS THERE STILL NEEDED TO BE SOME INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO MOVE. IF WE CHANGE THAT AND REMOVE ALL HINT OF A CARROT OUT THERE THEY'RE JUST GOING TO SHUT IT DOWN AND IT WILL SIT THERE. SO, TO KEEP SOMETHING MOVING I THINK THE IDEA WAS THAT WE LEFT IT IN THERE SO THAT IF THAT I EVER DO CLEAN IT UP TO SOMEBODY'S SATISFACTION THEY CAN PROCEED WITH SOMETHING ELSE. BUT THAT'S ALL I KNOW ABOUT IT. WE'RE NOT HIDING ANYTHING. YOU KNOW, IN FACT WHEN YOU GO ON THE WEBSITE YOU CAN ZOOM DOWN THROUGH ALL THE STUFF AND JUST PICK OUT WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. AND THIS ITEM WILL BE ON THERE. YOU KNOW, TO TALK ABOUT. THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIT THROUGH THE PLEDGE AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: IF THERE'S ANY CHANGE IN LAMP AS FAR AS THE SOLITE AREA TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE?

NONE? >> SPEAKER: CORRECT. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: WHAT ABOUT LIKE AN AD HOC OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'D CALL IT BUT MAYBE AN ADVISORY GROUP THAT WE SAY HEY WE'LL AGREE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THESE FIVE PEOPLE AND THEY COMMUNICATE WITH THE COMMUNITY.

SO, EVERYONE IS GETTING THE COMMUNICATION THEY WANT AND NEED.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: WELL IF I ESTABLISH A DIALOGUE WITH MR. GILL IS AND KEEP HIM INFORMED ON WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT WE HEAR AND KNOW IS GOING ON AND HE DOES IT TO ME I CERTAINLY CAN -- THROUGH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY -- GET THE INFORMATION OR FROM YOU GUYS AS

FAR AS ANY ACTIVITY. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: I SUPPORT THAT.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: I LIKE THAT. LIKE I SAID, ACCOUNTABILITY IS THE NAME OF THE GAME HERE.

MR. GILLIS THAT WOULD BE SATISFACTORY TO YOU WE CAN PROCEED WITH THAT VERBAL

AGREEMENT AS OF TODAY. UNLESS YOU HAVE A BETTER PLAN SIR? >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: PLANNING IS A DIFFERENT MANNER. AS YOU AND I DISCUSSED WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING BUT REACTING TO WHAT'S GOING ON. THAT'S TOTALLY DISSATISFACTORY. SO, I COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH COMMISSIONER BOLLA'S COMMENTS ABOUT LEAVING INCENTIVES IN PLACE. BESIDES THAT I'M -- ANY COMMUNICATION PLAN IS BETTER THAN WHAT WE'VE GOT. AND THAT'S SCARY TO US. WE JUST NEED AN ONGOING, PROBABLY SLIGHTLY ESCALATING EFFORT TO BRING INFORMATION TO TOGETHER. AND I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST IF WE CAN TALK ABOUT PLANNING ANOTHER TIME BUT WE NEED CONTINGENCY PLANS FOR WHATEVER MIGHT HAPPEN AND THE FACT THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT WANT A DENSITY BONUS IS

COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.

MS. GRIMM SAID EARLIER THE DEP WAS WILLING TO COME OVER FOR A MEETING?

>> SPEAKER: YES THEY PROVIDED INFORMATION AND SAID IF THEY WANTED US TO, YOU KNOW -- THEM TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR WHATEVER THEY WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING. THERE IS A REPRESENTATIVE THEY HAVE IN JACKSONVILLE WHO IS THE PRIMARY CONTACT ON THIS PROJECT.

>> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING: I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD COMMUNICATIONS STARTING POINT.

BECAUSE I THINK THEY NEED TO HEAR ABOUT THE CONCERNS IN THE COMMUNITY. IT'S -- THE TESTIMONY THAT WE HEARD IN 2018 WAS UPSETTING. BUT WHETHER OR NOT IT HAD SCIENCE BEHIND IT, I DON'T KNOW. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THE DEP NEEDS TO HEAR AND LET THEM DECIDE WHAT STEPS TO TAKE. THEN AS FAR AS THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN. I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO RELOOKING AT THAT.

AND I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF INCENTIVES. NOT WHEN WE'RE BOOMING THE WAY THAT WE ARE.

EVERY PIECE OF DIRT IN CLAY COUNTY GETS MORE EXPENSIVE EVERY MONTH. SO THOSE WOULD BE MY TWO

SUGGESTIONS. >> SPEAKER: IF MR. GILL IS WILL GIVE ME HIS INFORMATION, I CAN

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PUT YOU IN CONTACT WITH THE DEP AND HELP YOU COORDINATE THAT. >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: THAT WOULD BE

GREAT. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: I'M GOOD WITH LOOKING AT THAT. WE HAVEN'T ALLOWED FOR SOMETHING. I JUST WANT THAT TO BE CLEAR. SINCE THE LAST MEETING WHERE WE VOTED IT DOWN 5-0 AND WE WERE STRONG THAT IT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP, WE'VE NOT DONE ANYTHING TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT. WE'VE NOT ADDED ABILITY FOR DEVELOPMENT OR APPROVED DEVELOPMENT OR ANY OF THAT. SO, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT HASN'T -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT PLAN SOLITE HAS OR STONERIDGE FARMS BUT I AM STILL 100% COMMITTED AS I STATED IN THAT MEETING AND I THINK WE PROBABLY ALL ARE TO MAKING SURE IT GETS CLEANED UP FIRST AND FOREMOST. AFTER THAT THE DISCUSSIONS NEED TO BE HAD. I THINK WE ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IN SOME KIND OF CONSERVATION

IF POSSIBLE. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE BOARD? WE'VE GOT THREE OR FOUR OTHER CARDS BUT FOLKS I'M GOING TO PUT YOU ON HOLD UNTIL WE GO THROUGH OUR AGENDA. SHOULD BE COMING UP IN A FEW MINUTES. ANYONE ELSE WANTING TO SPEAK ON THAT CAN FEEL FREE TO. SO, WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ALONG THEN. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT. APPROVAL OF

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[PROCLAMATIONS/RESOLUTIONS]

>> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING: I HAVE THE FIRST REUSS RESOLUTION FOR SENATOR ROB BRADLEY. WHEREAS ROB BRADLEY HAS BEEN A CHAMPION IN TAL HAYSEE FOR ENVIRONMENT HELPING TO OBTAIN FUNDING FOR THE PROTECTION OF NATURAL SPRINGS AND RESPUR OFFING WATERFRONT PROPERTY ALONG THE ST. JOHNS RIVER. WHERE AS SENATOR BRADLEY HAS PRESENTED EXEMPLARY SERVICE TO THE PUBLIC SINCE HIS ELECTION TO THE SENATE IN 2012 AND RE-ELECTION IN 2016 SERVE OWING THE CLAY COUNTY

>> COMMISSIONER: REPRESENTING THE 11 COUNTIES OF DISTRICT 5 IN THE FLORIFLORIDA SENATE. WHEREA BRADLEY CHAMPIONED STATEWIDE FLISH ACTIVES INCLUDING SECURING FUNDING FOR WATER RESOURCE PROTECTION AND RESTORATION OF RIVERS, SPRINGS AND THE EVER GR GLADES, THE PASSAGE OF THE FIRST STATEWIDE MEDICAL MARIJUANA LAW, JUVENILE JUSTICE INVESTMENT AND REFORM, STRENGTHENING OF STATE SEXUAL PREDATOR LAWS AND ENSURING THAT FLORIDIANS HAVE THE RIGHT TO GROW VEGETABLE GARDENS ON THEIR PROPERTY. WHEREAS SENATOR BRADLEY HAS RECEIVED NUMEROUS RECOGNITIONS FOR HIS SERVICE INCLUDING THE NAMING OF ROB BRADLEY CONSERVATION PARK IN 2019, THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA IN 2019, THE AUDUBON FLORIDA CHAMPION OF THE EVERGLADES AND THE FLORIDA AD LITEM PROGRAM DESIGNATED HIM AS AN HONOR GUARDIAN AD LITEM JUST TO NAME A FEW. THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS ON BEHALF OF ITS MEMBERS AND EMPLOYEES DOES HEREBY RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THE OUTSTANDING CLAY COUNTY ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN THE NAME OF PUBLIC SERVICE MADE BY SENATOR ROB BRADLEY DURING HIS EIGHT YEARS IN THE FLORIDA SENATE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY EAYE. DULY ADOPTED THIS 11TH DAY OF

NEBRASKA 2020. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. THAT RESOLUTION WOULD BE PRESENTED TO REPRESENTATIVE SENATOR BRADLEY NEXT WEEK AT THE CLAY DAY IN TALLAHASSEE. BUT WE WANTED TO GET IT ON THE RECORD TONIGHT AND LET EVERYONE KNOW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT WEEK IN TALLAHASSEE. OKAY NEXT ONE IS REPRESENTATIVE TRAVIS CUMMINGS.

>> COMMISSIONER CELLA: FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW BOTH SENATOR BRAD I LE AND REPRESENTATIVE CUMMINGS ARE BEING TERMED OUT. SO, THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO CONTINUE IN THEIR PARTICULAR OFFICES AND THAT'S WHY AFTER EIGHT YEARS FOR BOTH OF THEM WE THOUGHT WE WOULD RECOGNIZE THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS AS SORT OF FAVORITE SONS HERE FROM CLAY COUNTY. WHEREAS AS A CLAY COUNTY RESIDENT FOR 36 YEARS AND A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER STATE REPRESENTATIVE CUMMINGS HAS SERVED THE PUBLIC IN MANY

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WHEREAS IN 2012 REPRESENTATIVE TRAVIS CUMMINGS WAS ELECTED TO THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DISTRICT 18 WHICH INCLUDES MOST OF THE RESIDENTS OF CLAY COUNTY, WAS RE-ELECTED IN 2016 AND SERVED AS THE WHIP FROM 2012 TO 2014. CURRENTLY SERVES ON THE CLAY COUNTY DELEGATION. AND WHEREAS STATE REPRESENTATIVE CUMMINGS HAS CERTAIN OFFED HIS COMMUNITY LOCALLY THROUGH HIS PROFESSIONAL AFFILIATIONS WITH THE CLINIC FOUNDATION AS A BOARD MEMBER ON THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES WITH THE ORANGE PARK MEDICAL CENTER AS A BOARD MEMBER OF THE NORTH FLORIDA TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION FROM 2008-2012 AND IN THE LEADERSHIP FLORIDA CLASS AND WHEREAS DURING HIS TENURE IN THE LEGISLATIVE REPRESENTATIVE TRAVIS CUMMINGS SPONSORED HEAVY LIFTS IN THE FLORIDA HOUSE SUCH AS THE STATEWIDE MEDICAID MANAGE PROGRAM, LOCAL PENSION REFORM, INTELLI- HEALTH. IN 2019 HE MANAGED THE APPROPRIATIONS BILL WHICH ON ALLOCATED BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR THE BUDGET. IS THE CURRENT SPONSOR OF THE BILL WHICH WILL ALLOCATE 94 FOR THE BUDGET. HE HAS RECEIVED NUMEROUS RECOGNITIONS. WAS NAMED HOSPICE CHAMPION IN 2018 BY THE FLORIDA HOSPICE. AND PALLIATIVE CARE ASSOCIATION. RECEIVED THE PAY CENTER FOR GIRLS CLAY BELIEVING IN GIRLS AWARD FOR THREE YEARS IN A ROW AND RECEIVED THE FLORIDA HEALTHCARE ASSOCIATION CHAMPION OF THE ELDERLY AWARD FOR THE 2018 LEGISLATIVE SESSION AMONG MANY OTHER HONORS.

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THE BOARD COMMISSIONERS DOES HEREBY RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THE OUTSTANDING CLAY COUNTY ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN THE NAME OF PUBLIC SERVICE MADE BY REPRESENTATIVE TRAVIS CUMMINGS DURING HIS EIGHT YEARS IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. MOTION CARRIES. AND THAT WILL BE HAND CARRIED TO TALLAHASSEE BY OUR DELEGATION NEXT WEEK.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. I HAVE ONE MORE RESOLUTION. THIS ONE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE RESOLUTION AND PROBABLY VOTE ON IT. OR DISCUSS IT AND THEN VOTE ON IT. IT'S NOT A RESOLUTION TO ANYONE IT IS A RESOLUTION FOR SOMETHING.

WHEREAS THE FLORIDA HOUSE AND SENATE'S INITIAL BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA 2020-21 BUDGET HAVING INCLUDED AN APPROPRIATION OF $3 MILLION TO CLAY COUNTY FOR NORTHEAST FLORIDA MULTI-PURPOSE YOUTH AND SPORTS COMPLEX. AND WHEREAS THE CLAY COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS IS IN SUPPORT OF HAVING A NORTHEAST FLORIDA MULTI-PURPOSE USE SPORTS YOUTH COMPLEX LOCATED IN THE COUNTY AND WHEREAS THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS IN RECOGNITION OF THE FLORIDA HOUSE AND INITIAL BUDGET RECOMMENDATION FOR NORTHEAST FLORIDA MULTI-PURPOSE USE SPORTS COMPLEX IS COMMITTED TO MATCHING THE $3 MILLION APPROPRIATION IF THE $3 MILLION APPROPRIATION IS INCLUDED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA'S 2021 BUDGET BY THE FLORIDA LEGISLATIVE AND APPROVED BY THE GOVERNOR OF OUR STATE. THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AS FOLLOWS. THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS HEREBY DECLARES CLAY COUNTY'S SUPPORT FOR NORTHEAST FLORIDA MULTI-PURPOSE USE SPORTS COMPLEX IN CLAY COUNTY. THE BOARD'S COMMITMENT TO MATCHING THE $3 MILLION APPROPRIATION FROM THE STATE FOR THE MULTI-USE SPORTS COMPLEX TO BE LOCATED IN CLAY COUNTY. SO, I WANT TO JUST GO AHEAD AND OPEN THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE. HOWARD, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO TREF AS THIS WITH

>> SPEAKER: SURE. TAKING A LOOK AT THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR THERE WAS A 3.5 MANYIL DOLLARS APPROPRIATION REQUEST WHICH WAS VETOED OUT OF THE BUDGET THIS YEAR. OUR REPRESENTATIVE, SPECIFICALLY TRAVIS CUMMINGS, BUT SPONSORED BY BOBBY PAYNE, WAS FOR $3 MILLION FOR THIS.

AGAIN, OUR INMUTT THAT WE HAD THE YEAR PRIOR AND CONTINUING FOR THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR BRING TOURISM TO NORTHEAST FLORIDA THROUGH SPORTING EVENTS. ALSO GIVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SHH SPORTS OFFICIALS AND TRAINERS TO TRAIN. PROVIDE EXERCISE FOURNTZ CITIZENS. HEALTH COMBAT MENTAL A HEALTH ISSUES. SPECIFICALLY AS YOU MENTIONED YOUTH SOCCER, BASEBALL, LACROSSE AND BASKETBALL WOULD BE THE SPORTS PLAYED. AGAIN, RECREATIONAL SPORTS OF ALL USE -- NATION'S

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>> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: DO YOU PROPOSED LOCATION? >> SPEAKER: NO EXACT LOCATION YET. WE'VE BEEN TAKING A LOOK AT FLORIDA FOREVER AREAS FOR LOCATION. AND, AGAIN, IT'S WIDE

OPEN. WITHIN ANYWHERE OF CLAY COUNTY. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: BUT I DO

UNDERSTAND THE LOCATION IS LEFT UP TO US. >> SPEAKER: THAT IS CORRECT.

YES, SIR. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING: I HAVE A COMMENT. ANY TIME I CAN GET 100% RETURN ON MY MONEY I THINK

THAT'S A GOOD DEAL. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.

>> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING: WE DO HAVE THE MONEY IN CIP AND IT DOESN'T ALL HAVE TO BE DONE IN ONE BUDGET YEAR. WITH AND WITH THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH WE'RE GOING TO SEE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT FOR US TO PROVIDE RECREATION FACILITIES FOR THAT GROWTH. SO, I SEE THIS AS A

GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT. >> SPEAKER: THERE'S ALSO ROOM FOR DISCUSSION ON THE SIZE,

DESIGN, LOCATION. THERE ARE MANY THROUGHOUT THE STATE. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: EXCUSE ME.

MR. AUTO, THIS IS YOUR ONE WARNING. NEXT TIME YOU GO ROOT SIDE. IT'S NOT OPEN TO DISCUSSION OUT THERE BOTHERING PEOPLE AND INTERRUPTING THEM. YOU ARE THERE TO SIT AND LISTEN.

THE ONLY TIME YOU NEED TO TALK IS WHEN YOU ARE AT THE ONE MICROPHONE. GO AHEAD, SIR.

>> SPEAKER: OBVIOUSLY I WOULD BRING IT TO THE BOARD ON THE SPECIFIC LOCATION AS THAT WOULD DEVELOP. AND THAT WE DO HAVE TIME TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. I DON'T HAVE A CONCEPT DRAWING OR THE SPECIFIC LOCATION BUT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THIS OUR NEW -- OUR AIRSTREAM VENTURE AND CONTRACT WITH THAT AND OUR FOCUS ON SPORTS WHICH I'LL BRIEF LATER, SO SOME INTERESTING CONCEPTS OR POSSIBILITY AND OPPORTUNITY HERE. BUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: THIS WOULD BE A PARK THAT WOULD BE UTILIZED BY THE RESIDENTS OF CLAY COUNTY? IT'S NOT OBVIOUSLY IF THERE ARE OUT OF COUNTY SPORTING EVENTS THAT OCCURRED THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE ROTATION BUT THIS PRIMARY PURPOSE AND FOCUS WOULD BE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF CLAY COUNTY TO UTILIZE THE FAMILIES AND RESIDENTS OF THE COUNTY? AND I THINK WHATEVER CONSIDERATION SHOULD BE PART OF A LARGER FOCUS ON MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ALSO PUTTING ADEQUATE RESOURCES INTO UPGRADING AND MAINTAINING THE CURRENT PARKS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THAT WE HAVE AND DOING SO IN A SAFE WAY. MAKE SURE OF THAT. AND I DO THINK AS WE TALKED ABOUT LOCATION IT SHOULD BE SOMEWHAT CENTRALIZED SO THAT RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY

CAN ENJOY AND PARTICIPATE. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: AS LONG AS THEY HAVE PICKLEBALL I'M GOOD

FOR IT. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: CHAIRMAN I AGREE WITH BOTH COMMISSIONER ROLLINS AND HUTCHINGS IN REGARDS TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM. THIS CANNOT ONLY SERVE THE LOCAL RESIDENTS, CLAY COUNTY RESIDENTS, GIVING US, YOU KNOW, SOME ADDITIONAL QUALITY FACILITIES FOR OUR YOUTH AND EVEN ADULTS TO UTILIZE. YOU KNOW, WITH THE ADVENT OF YOUTH TOURNAMENTS. AND IF YOU'VE GOT KIDS INVOLVED IN SPORTS THESE DAYS YOU KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. PEOPLE TRAVEL ALL OVER THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO OTHER FACILITIES. AND WITH YOU GOES YOUR DOLLARS FOR FILLING UP AT THE GAS STATION, FOR RESTAURANTS AND HOTELS. AND SO THE THICK I LIKE ABOUT THIS IS THE FACT AS COMMISSIONER HUTCHINGS MENTIONED IT'S CERTAINLY FAR FROM BEING PROVED AT THIS POINT. IT HAS TO BE INCLUDED 32 YOU THE BUDGET NEGOTIATIONS AND ALSO THE GOVERNOR HAS TO SIGN OFF ON IT. BUT IT DOES GIVE US SORT OF A RUNNING START AT ESTABLISHING SOME KIND OF A SPORTS COMPLEX WHICH CAN BE USED BY BOTH THE LOCAL TEAMS AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, HAVING OUR ABILITY TO DRAW TOURNAMENTS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS FROM FOLKS FROM OTHER PLACES THAT WILL COME IN AND HOPEFULLY SPEND MONEY AND HAVE AN INCOME IMPACT ON THE COUNTY FAR AND ABOVE WHATEVER WE SPEND IN TERMS OF PUTTING THE FACILITY TOGETHER. THE OLD SAYING IS YOU NEVER LOOK A GIFT HORSE IN THE MOUTH. THIS IS SORT OF THE GIFT HORSE. DON'T LOOK IN HIS MOUTH. IT'S $3 MILLION. IF WE CAN'T PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER AT SOME POINT WE DON'T GO AND WE TELL THE STATE WE CAN'T DO IT. BUT I THINK AT LEAST IN TERMS OF --

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WE HAD A NUMBER OF PROJECTS WE WERE HOPING TO GET FUNDED WHICH GOT VETOED. SO, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE FORWARD. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, KEEP EVERYBODY APPRISED AS TO WHERE WE ARE AS STEPS DEVELOP. VERY MUCH LIKE WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE FOLKS FROM RUSSELL LANDING AND THE SOLITE THING. WE'LL KEEP EVERYBODY POSTED AND HOPEFULLY IT WILL COME TO FRUITION AND

WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. SO I AM IN FAVOR. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: IS THAT A

MOTION MR. CELLA? >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: I WANTED TO MAKE SURE --

>> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: AS LONG AS THERE'S PICKLEBALL ON IT I'M GOOD FOR IT.

>> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: CAN I JUST CLARIFY ONE MORE TIME. REPETITION IS A BRANDING IRON IN THE MIND. ITS PRIMARY FOCUS AND PURPOSE WILL BE CLAY COUNTY RESIDENTS.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: THAT'S PRETTY CLEAR. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. SO, DONE. MOVING ON. I JUST WANT CLARIFY ITEMS 4, 5 AND 6. WE TOOK A VOTE ON THE MINUTES EARLIER BUT I WASN'T CLEAR AT THE TIME WHICH MINUTES. SO, I WILL HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT PARKS AND REC AND STEM MINUTES THEN THE BCC

MINUTES AND THE BCC WORKSHOP MINUTES IF IT PLEASES THE BOARD. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: MOVE

APPROVAL. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THAT TAKES US DOWN TO

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

INFORMATION. THE FIRST IS CHERYL LLOYD. >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

CHERYL LOHAN. 798 STATE ROAD 100 KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. I'M SPEAKING TO THE SOLITE SITUATION. AS WE'VE HEARD EARLIER IN THE EVENING, THERE IS AN ONGOING QUESTION AS TO LONGITUDINAL ILLNESSES. IF YOU READ THE NEWSPAPER ARTICLES FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS, THERE'S A CONTINUAL MUTTERING ABOUT BIRTH DEFECTS, CANCERS, RESPIRATORY ILLNESSES. AND NOW WE HAVE EXCEL ATAL ILLNESSES BEING ADDED TO THE ISSUE. AS WE PREPARE TO MAYBE FIN FINALIZE, HOPEFULLY FINALIZE THIS PROJECT, I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON THE COUNTY AND ALSO THE RESIDENTS OF RUSSELL LANDING TO SEEK AN EPIDEMIOLOGICAL SURVEY OF THE RESIDENTS IN RUSSELL LANDING. WHY I SAY THIS IS THAT -- FIRST OF ALL, CLAY COUNTY HAS A HIGHER THAN THE STATE AND NATIONAL AVERAGE FOR CANCERS. AND I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF RUSSELL LANDING WASN'T A HOT SPOT. WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT. BUT ALSO IF YOU ARE EVER GOING TO SEEK DA DAMAGES FROM SOLITE OR WHATEVER CORPORATION YOU ARE GOING TO BE TALKING TO AT WHATEVER LEVEL, YOU NEED TO HAVE A BASIS UNDER WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO SEEK THOSE DAMAGES FOR. SO, YOU KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT A HOTSPOT FOR ILLNESSES FROM WHICH TO GO ON.

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PROJECT. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN ASK OUR EXTENSION PEOPLE TO LOOK INTO?

>> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING: HOW ABOUT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT? >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: HOWARD CAN

YOU FOLLOW UP. >> SPEAKER: YES, SIR, I WILL. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: OKAY.

PATRICIA ROLOFF. >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: PATRICIA ROLOFF. 1810 OAK PARK CIRCLE, GREEN COVE SPRINGS. MY HUSBAND AND I AND OUR FAMILY MOVED HERE TO RUSSELL IN 1982. THIS IS JUST A BRIEF HISTORY FOR YOU. INITIALLY WE HAD NO IDEA ABOUT SOLITE. A NUMBER OF YEARS LATER PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY DECIDED TO HAVE A MEETING BECAUSE OF THE RAINS AND THE OVERFLOW FROM SOLITE CAUSED THE CREEKS TO TURN AN UNUSUAL COLOR. SO WE GOT TOGETHER AND WE BASICALLY DID SOME TESTING, CONTACTED OUR LOCAL COMMISSIONER. HE SAID NO PROBLEM. YOU CAN COME TO THE MEETING, EXPLAIN, AND EACH OF YOU CAN TALK FOR THREE MINUTES AND TELL US WHAT YOUR PROPOSITIONS ARE, WHAT THE PETITION IS. WE WANTED SOLITE TO CLEAN IT UP. WE GOT TO THE MEETING AND WHEN WE GOT TO THE MEETING WE WERE TOLD SINCE WE WERE ONE PETITIONER AND SOLITE WAS A DIFFERENT PETITIONER, WE WOULD JUST HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR EACH SIDE. SO WE WOUND UP HAVING THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. OBVIOUSLY, WE WERE NOT PREPARED FOR THAT. THE NEXT THING WAS THE SOLITE LAWYER GOT UP AND HE SMASHED THE WHOLE PROGRAM. WE LOST. I SAVED ALL OF THE MATERIALS AND I FINALLY GAVE UP. I AM ORIGINALLY FROM NEW YORK CITY, AS YOU CAN PROBABLY TELL FROM THE ACCENT. I HAD ENOUGH OF BIG BUSINESS BACK THEN. AND WHEN I MOVED HERE I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT. AFTER THAT I JUST GAVE UP. EVENTUALLY A NUMBER OF YEARS LATER, AS I SAID, I GAVE MY MATERIALS OVER TO SOMEBODY ELSE FROM ANOTHER GROUP WITHIN THE RUSSELL COMMUNITY AND THIS PROBLEM HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE 1982/85. JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION. AND I GUESS AS EACH GROUP OF YOU COME THROUGH IT JUST GOES ON AND ON AND ON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: THANK YOU. MATT. >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: MATT, 1749 OAK ROAD DRIVE SOUTH, GREEN COVE SPRINGS. I WANTED TO JUST QUICKLY TALK ABOUT THE ATTORNEY, YOU KNOW, MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS THE GOLDER ASSOCIATES PLAN OF ACTION FOR CLEAN UP. AND IF YOU ACTUALLY READ THAT, IT IS GEARED TOWARDS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. WHAT GOLDER IS PLANNING ON DOING. EACH ONE OF THEIR SWMUS WHICH ARE THEIR TESTING SITES, NONE OF THEM HAVE EXPANDED OUT FROM THEIR ORIGINAL SMALL TEST AREA TO COVER THE ENTIRE AREA LIKE WE HAD THOUGHT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT LET ME READ YOU THIS. IT TALKS ABOUT THEY GIVE THE RESULTS OF WHAT'S THERE THAT THEY KNOW OF AND THEIR CORRECTIVE MEASURES AND ALTERNATIVES LISTED BELOW. IT

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AND I'M SORRY I'M OUT OF TIME I HAD OTHER STUFF BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: OKAY. THANK YOU. JAMES AUTO. I'M SORRY, EXCUSE ME, JAMES. JOHN STERNS. I

WAS TALKING THESE IN ORDER. >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: OKAY MY NAME IS JOAN STERNS. 1817 COUNTY ROAD 209B. I'VE BEEN A NURSE FOR OVER 50 YEARS AND THE LAST 20 YEARS I'VE WORKED WITH VIETNAM VETERANS WITH AGENT ORANGE. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE BECAUSE MS. CUMMINGS WAS SAYING THERE WAS NO REAL DOCUMENTATION OR SCIENTIFIC. THE CHEMICALS THAT ARE THERE ARE ARSENIC, CYANIDE, I THINK WE CAN SAY WE KNOW WHAT THOSE DO. LEAD. WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN FLINT BY INACTIVITY OR MAKING THE WRONG DECISIONS. AND DIOXIN WHICH IS ANOTHER NAME FOR AGENT ORANGE. WE HAVE ENOUGH DOCUMENTATION FROM VIETNAM FOR WHAT THESE TOXIC CHEMICALS ARE DOING WHEN THEY'RE IN THE AIR, WHEN THEY'RE ON PLANTS, WHEN YOU ARE WALKING THROUGH THEM, WHEN YOU GO IN THE WATER. THERE ARE ENOUGH DOCUMENTATION OF HEALTH RISKS. AND WE BROUGHT THIS UP TIME AND TIME AGAIN. WHAT SCARED ME WAS THE ATTORNEY SAYING, A TIMEFRAME OF 60, YOU KNOW, PHASE I AND IN 60 DAYS THEY'LL BE GOING TO PHASE II WHICH SCARES ME BECAUSE UNDERSTAND WHAT PHASE II IS. I JUST WANT TO KNOW THERE WILL NOT BE ANYTHING DISTURBING THESE TOXIC CHEMICALS THAT WILL AFFECT

EVERYONE AROUND IT. THANK YOU. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: THANK YOU. JAMES AUTO?

>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: JAMES AUTO. SEX AND BUDS CLAY COUNTY FLORIDA HOTELS. ADDISON DAVIS CENTRAL FLORIDA, 2020. AT LEAST SOMEBODY'S GOT HIM RIGHT. I DON'T BLAME HIM FOR LEAVING.

YOUR NUMBER ONE THING SHOULD BE TO PROTECT OUR WATER AND ROADS. THAT SHOULD BE YOUR NUMBER ONE THING. THE CITIZENS VOTED DOWN THE FIELD OF DREAMS. THE CITIZENS ARE NOT FOR NONSENSE THAT THIS BOARD IS TRYING TO PASS. OKAY. FOOTBALL IS CHILD ABUSE. IF YOU ARE ADULTS AND WANT TO KNOCK YOURSELVES OUT GO AHEAD BUT QUIT ABUSING OUR KIDS IN THE SCHOOLS. THE QUALITY OF LIFE IS NOT IN CLAY COUNTY BECAUSE CLAY COUNTY'S NOT PUTTING A QUALITY OF LIFE FIRST.

WAS THE DEP EVEN ASKED TO COME TO THIS MEETING? I JUST COME UP HERE ALL THE TIME AND I'M SO

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AND AS FAR AS THIS BONDING TODAY, I HOPE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON NUMBER 9.

MRS. HUTCHINGS SAT UP HERE AND SAID THAT THE BUILDERS ARE ALL BUSY. ALL THE CONSTRUCTION PEOPLE ARE BUSY. YOU KEEP SAYING ALL THE LOANS CHEAP. THE LOAN'S CHEAP. BUT WHEN THE PRICE OF BUILDING EVERYTHING IS WAY UP IN THE AIR IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT THE LOAN PRICE IS. BUT $40 MILLION TO CLOSE ON A LOAN AND PAY INTEREST ON $130 MILLION? EVEN IF IT WAS THE 12 OR $16 MILLION THAT WE STARTED HEARING FROM THE BEGINNING, IT'S TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE. WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT NEW JERSEY WHERE THESE KIDS GOT SICK WITH CANCER AND THEY STILL HAVE TO TEST THE WATER. I'VE SAID THAT MANY TIMES IN THESE MEETINGS. THERE'S A BOOK OUT THERE THAT WAS WROTE ABOUT KIDS GETTING CANCER. OKAY. YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THESE FOLKS WERE HERE BACK THEN. THE PAST TWO BOARDS, I NEVER HEARD NOTHING ABOUT THIS STUFF.

THE EASY BASE I REMEMBER THEM ALL SAYING SHOULD WE DO IT, SHOULD WE NOT PUT IT IN THE ROADS? NOW THE ROADS ARE FALLING APART EARLY. YOU KNOW, IT JUST GOES ON AND ON HERE. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT MR. LONDEING CAME HERE AND SAID ABOUT MAKING GRIEVE COVE SPRINGS OUR NAME FOR THE COUNTY. WE NEED TO LOOK AT BLACK CREEK. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE GOOD THINGS IN LIFE FOR OUR KIDS NOT RUNNING THEM INTO EACH OTHER. THAT'S THE MAIN THING WE NEED TO DO. WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND $100,000 ON THE FAIRGROUNDS. WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE A FOUR LANE OR THREE LANE JUST SO THE FAIRGROUND CAN HAVE EASIER TRAFFIC. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE NEED. WE NEED OUR WATER. THESE KIDS AREN'T GOING TO GIVE A DAMN ABOUT NO FAIRGROUND WHEN THEIR

WATER AIN'T WORTH A DAMN. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: TIME'S UP. DALE CARTER, YOU ARE NEXT.

>> SPEAKER: DALE CARTER. 2141 LOUIE CARTER ROAD. I DON'T GENERALLY AGREE WITH MR. AUTO ON MANY THINGS BUT IT DOES KIND OF SOUND LIKE THE FIELD OF DREAMS. YOU ARE SAYING THIS AND YOU MR. HENDRY TALKED TODAY THAT $3 MILLION IS FROM THE STATE. $3 MILLION HAS TO COME FROM THE COUNTY. YOU GOT A MAA AND A MEGA-PARK THAT TOTES AROUND A THOUSAND FOOT OF WATER HOSE TO IRRIGATE THEIR PLACE THERE. SO WE CAN'T EVEN GET THE IRRIGATION RIGHT ON THEM. NOT ONLY THAT ONE BUT SOME PLACES ARE OLD. CAN WE FIX WHAT WE GOT FIRST BEFORE WE GO AND INVEST IN SOMETHING ELSE LIKE THIS? IF WE GOT $3 MILLION TO SPEND TO PUT THIS ON, WHY CAN'T WE PUT IT IN OUR MR. HOUSEHOLDER'S BUDGET AND START FIXING WHAT WE HAVE. I MEAN, IT WOULD MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE THEN TO SPEND $3 MILLION HERE. IF THAT'S $3 MILLION AND YOU GOT A MATCH OF $3 MILLION THAT'S NOT EVEN TELLING WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST TO MAINTAIN IT JUST LIKE THE FIELD OF DREAMS. IT WAS A MAJOR AMOUNT OF MONEY TO MAINTAIN IT. SO, I MEAN, IT JUST DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE WHAT YOU ALL EVEN DREAMING OF THINKING ABOUT EVEN LETTING THIS GO TO SECOND BASE. BECAUSE THEN YOU JUST HIRED SOMEBODY LAST WEEK OR LAST MONTH FOR $40,000 TO GET MORE SPORTS INTO THAT COUNTY? THE SPORTS, LIKE I SAID, LET'S FIX OUR FIELDS FIRST. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT COME TO MAA AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME OF THEM. I THINK SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN THERE. MR. ROLLINS AND MR. HENDRY'S BEEN THERE. LET'S FIX WHAT WE'VE GOT FIRST. THIS IS WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE BOARD AND THIS IS THE REASON PEOPLE GET PO'D BECAUSE WE DREAM OF OTHER THINGS JUST LIKE YOU ARE FIXING TO SPEND $50 MILLION ON ROADS GOING AROUND D. R. HURT OP SUBDIVISION. YOU ARE SIX LANING THAT ROAD OR FOUR LANING THOSE ROADS ALL THE WAY AROUND THAT SUBDIVISION FOR HIM TO MAKE MONEY AND THE TAXPAYERS IS WHAT'S PAYING THE BILL. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT, LOOK AROUND THE WHOLE THING. IT COMPLETELY SURROUNDS THAT SUBDIVISION. HE'S GOT THE MONEY TO BUILD THE SUBDIVISION HE SHOULD HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND ANOTHER THING IS THIS INFRASTRUCTURE, WHAT YOU ALL GOT, THESE IMPACT FEES ARE A DROP IN THE BUCKET. WHAT WE'VE SPENT ON ROADS IS JUST WHAT YOU SPEND ON A THOUSAND HOMES. LET'S JUST SAY A THOUSAND HOMES AT

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SITUATION. LET THEM PAY FOR THE SITUATION. SORRY. THANK YOU. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: THANK YOU MR. CARTER. MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. PLEASURE OF THE BOARD.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

>> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: MOVE APPROVAL. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. VERY GOOD. OLD BUSINESS. BONDING DISCUSSION. THE BONDING TIMETABLE. COURTNEY?

[9.  Bonding Discussion]

>> SPEAKER: INCLUDED WITHIN YOUR PACK ELTH WAS AN UPDATED TIMETABLE JUST TO KEEP YOU INFORMED AS TO HOW WE'RE PROGRESSING. OF PARTICULAR NOTE IS THAT THIS WEEK ON THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 13TH, WE WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN OUR RATING AGENCY CALLS. ALSO AT THAT TIME WE WILL HAVE PRESENT THE FINANCIAL 50S ADVISOR. INCLUDED IN THE PACKETS WERE THE RESOLUTION AND THE PRELIMINARY OFFERING STATEMENT THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD AT THE FEBRUARY 25TH MEETING. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING ANY OF THOSE DOCUMENTS, THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR WILL BE AVAILABLE TO MEET WITH YOU ON THURSDAY THE 13TH. JUST NEED TO SORT OF COORDINATE A TIME WITH HIM. ALSO AS I MENTIONED ON FEBRUARY 25TH YOU WILL BE BROUGHT THE BONDING DOCUMENTS WHICH WILL FOLLOW THE WEEK OF ASSUMING THEY'RE APPROVED THE WEEK OF MARCH 2ND THROUGH MARCH 10TH WILL BE THE TIME WHERE THE BONDS WILL ACTUALLY BE SOLD. SO THAT'S JUST TO KEEP YOU APPRISED OF THE PROGRESS WE ARE MOVING FORWARD. DON'T KNOW

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TIMETABLE? >> CHAIRMSO MOVING ALONG FOR 9B AND C. THOSE ARE JUST INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKETS SO THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF -- I MEAN, THEY'RE PRETTY LENGTHY. WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH MANY REVISIONS. ALONG WITH OUR BOND COUNCIL. THEY WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU AT THE FEBRUARY 25TH MEETING. SO, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THEM OR ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE LET US KNOW. ONE REVISION THAT WE ARE MAKING IN CONNECTION WITH THE RESOLUTION IS THAT IT RIGHT NOW LIMITS YOUR PROJECTS TO ROADWAY PROJECTS. SO WE ARE GOING TO OPEN THAT UP TO ALLOW IT TO BE ROADWAY PROJECTS AS WELL AS OTHER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. SO, IF DOWN THE ROAD DURING THE FIVE YEAR TIMEFRAME IF YOU WANTED TO AND WE HAD EXTRA MONEY FOR SOME REASON AND WANTED TO USE IT FOR SOME OTHER PURPOSE WE CAN DO

THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO AMEND THE WHOLE RESOLUTION. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: GOOD.

>> SPEAKER: LASTLY, IS 9D WHICH I'LL LET HOWARD TAKE OFF ON. BUT THE IMPORTANCE OF 9D IS IT IS AN EXHIBIT AND THE PROJECTS THAT YOU ARE IDENTIFYING ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION. YOUR INITIAL PROJECTS. SO WE NEED THOSE DECIDED SO THAT THEY CAN BE PRESENTED IN THE FINALS THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU ON FEBRUARY 25TH.

>> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING: I DID HAVE A QUESTION. IT MAY BE SEMANTICS, MAY BE SIGNIFICANT.

THAT'S WHY I AM ASKING. IF YOU GO TO EXHIBIT D AND THE SECOND PAGE WHERE IT SAYS TRANSPORTATION BONDING PROJECTS. IT LISTS SEVERAL OF THE ROADS AS URBAN AND ONE AS SUB- -- OR TWO

AS SUBURBAN. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? >> SPEAKER: I CAN TAKE THAT. SO THE DIFFERENCE REMEMBER FROM THE WORKSHOP WHEN YOU HAVE URBAN YOU HAVE CURB AND GUTTER. AND SUBURBAN YOU HAVE SWAILS AND SIDE CULVERTS. AND IN BOTH SUBURBAN AND URBAN YOU HAVE

SIDEWALKS AND BIKE PATHS. SO THE STANDARD BETWEEN THE TWO. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: ALSO ONE TAKES UP FOR WIDTH THAN THE OTHER? OR ARE THAT I BOTH ABOUT THE SAME?

>> SPEAKER: THEY ARE ALL THE SAME. THE DIFFERENCE IS THE CURB GUTTER OR SHOWER DRAINAGE. BUT

YOU ARE STILL STICKING WITH THE SAME 12 FOOT LANES. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: SO SOUNDS

LIKE -- >> SPEAKER: THE RIGHT-OF-WAY? >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: YEAH.

>> I THINK WE STILL HAVE 120 FEET. >> IT VARIES ON EACH ROADWAY.

THE EXISTING ROADWAY AND WHAT WE CAN FIT. THAT HASN'T BEEN DETERMINED AT THIS POINT.

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>> COMMISSIONER CELLA: SO WHAT'S THE RATIONALE THEN FOR DOING SUBURBAN? JUST THE FEEL AS

COMPARED -- >> SPEAKER: SURE. I'LL TALK ABOUT D. THAT'S OKAY. AND AGAIN FOR THOSE THAT WEREN'T HERE TOO FOR THE WORKSHOP LAST TUESDAY. SO, JUST A QUICK BACKGROUND. THE BACKGROUND -- OR THE PROJECTS THAT WE LOOKED AT WERE IDENTIFIED TO BE EITHER DEFICIENT OR CRITICAL WITH REGARDS TO THE NORTH FLORIDA TPO AND THE ANALYSIS OUT TO 2040.

THOSE THAT WERE DEFICIENT BY YOUR CHART AND WHAT'S ON BOTH SIDES OF THE DAIS HERE ARE ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR. AND THEY'RE NUMBERED IN ORDER OF PRIORITY. A LOT OF -- ONCE WE TOOK A LOOK AT THAT AND, OBVIOUSLY, NUMBER 5 IS CONSIDERED CRITICAL. WE HAVE A SIXTH PROJECT THAT WAS CONSIDERED CRITICAL. AND WE TOOK IT OFF. AND THE REASON FOR ALL OF THIS, TAKING THAT PROJECT OFF AND GOING FROM EITHER URBAN TO SUBURBAN AND WHAT OUR RATIONALE WAS, WAS THE PUBLIC SAID AT SOME OF THE TOWN HALLS THAT WE WENT TO, THEY DID NOT WANT A SIX-LANE ROAD AND I220 TO BE SIX LANE.

BUT WE HAVE MONEY. IT WILL COST APPROXIMATELY 3.5 TO $4 MILLION TO FIX 220 IN THAT AREA. WITH REGARDS TO LANES AND TRAFFIC FLOW. SO WE ROO EH REMOVED THAT. THEN WE TOOK A LOOK AT SANDRIDGE AND RUSSELL TO MAKE THOSE SUBURBAN FEEL AND TO KEEP IT MORE A RURAL FEEL WITH RUSSELL. WHEN IT CAME TO SANDRIDGE ROAD, TO GO URBAN, REMEMBER THE ELEVATION THERE CHANGES RAPIDLY. THERE ARE CULVERTS ON THE SIDE AND MAKES TE ROAD DANGEROUS. NOW IF WE GO WITH AN URBAN ROAD IN THAT AREAIT WHIM ALLOW US TO PUT THE CURB AND GUTTER IN AND IT WILL BE A BIT SAFETY CONSCIOUS ON THAT. WE LOOKED AT THAT FROM FOUR TO THREE LANES BECAUSE THERE WERE CONCERNS BY THE PUBLIC ABOUT GOING FOUR LANES IN FRONT OF THE JUNIOR HIGH AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. IN THE PROJECTS, AGAIN, THE NUMBER ONE PROJECT IS 218 FROM PINE TREE TO COSMOS. IT'S TWO TO FOUR LANES. NUMBER 2, THREE AND FOUR ARE PACKAGED TOGETHER. REMEMBER THIS IS ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT ON A ROAD SYSTEM THAT GETS YOU FROM HENDLEY TO 17. THIS ROADWAY ALONE IN THE INTERSECTIONS BOTH AT SAND RIDGE AND RUSSELL. ON THE SOUTHERN PART OF RUSSELL GOING ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS OUR ARE MAJOR CHOKE POINTS DURING MORNING AND EVENING RUSH HOUR. WE SAID ON NUMBER TWO WE WOULD FOUR LANE COUNTY ROAD 209 FROM 315 BRAVO TO HIGHWAY 17. ON RUSSELL ROAD OR COUNTY ROAD 209, FROM 315 BRAVO TO SAND RIDGE ROAD WE'D GO FROM TWO TO THREE LANES. AND THAT WOULD BE A SUBURBAN. THEN ON SAND RIDGE ROAD WE'RE INCREASING TWO TO THREE LANES AND THAT WOULD BE URBAN. NUMBER 5 ON IT AND THAT'S THE PURPLE ONE TO THE NORTH IS COUNTY ROAD 220 FROM BAXLEY TO HENDLEY. THAT'S TWO TO FOUR LANES THERE. AND REMEMBER THE QUAD INTERSECTION AT HENDLEY THERE IS STILL IN THE PLANS AND WE HAVE OTHER MONEYS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. AND THAT INTERSECTION. FINALLY, WHEN WE TOOK A LOO LOOK AT TRYING AND THE ATTEMPT TO MAKE TWO PARALLEL ROADS EAST AND WEST TO ALLEVIATE THAT TRAFFIC ALONG SAND RIDGE, RUSSELL AND 209, WE SAID -- WE TOOK A LOOK AT THIS WITH REGARDS TO 315. WE WOULD FOUR LANE 315 BETWEEN 315 AND HIGHWAY 17. THEN WE CAME ONE A FIRST COAST CONNECTOR AS WE WOULD CALL IT FROM 315 ALL THE WAY TO THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY. THAT WOULD BE TWO-LANE SUBURBAN. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL COST OF THIS IT'S $124.2 MILLION. WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT MANY ASPECTS FROM RIGHT-OF-WAY AND LOOKING AT THE -- COMMISSIONER CELLA WHEN YOU ASK ABOUT THE WIDTH AND THAT'S WHY DALE IS TRYING TO PUT THIS WITHIN THE CURRENT RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT WE HAVE AND TO MINIMIZE THE PUSH OF RIGHT-OF-WAY WE WOULD NEED TO PURCHASE ALONG 209 AND SAND

RIDGE. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: SO WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AT THE MAXIMUM COST IN THE ESTIMATES WE'RE USING AND IF WE CAN, SAY, MONEYS BY USING RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT WE ALREADY HAVE OR BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH WHAT WE HAVE THAT'S THE WAY

WE'LL MOVE FORWARD? >> SPEAKER: THAT IS CORRECT. YES, SIR. WE ALSO WOULD COUNT ON THE DEVELOPER FROM FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY TO 315 AND FROM 315 TO WILLOW SPRINGS WE WOULD ALSO LOOK FOR HELP ON THAT INSTEAD OF STANDARD 40% OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS TO 10% OR

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AREA. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE COMMENT ABOUT

SPENDING MONEY ON NON-ROAD PROJECTS. >> SPEAKER: SO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS IT GIVES THE BOARD FLEXIBILITY. SO, REMEMBER WHERE '$124.2 MILLION. THERE'S STILL $5.8 MILLION IN OUR HIP POCKET IN CASE THIS RUNS, THE COST IS MORE THAN WHAT WE ESTIMATED. WE FELT LIKE AS WE PROGRESSED ON THIS, ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW OR SO YOU STILL HAVE FOUR YEARS LEFT TO COMPLETE A PROJECT WITHIN FIVE YEARS. WE COULD USE THOSE MONEYS OR THOSE SAVINGS FOR PARTICULAR PROJECT LIKE A FIRE STATION, LIKE AN ANIMAL SHELTER. AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE OUT THERE. WE COULD ALSO USE THEM FOR OTHER ROADWAY

PROJECTS THAT WEREN'T ON THE LIST OF ONE OF THESE THINGS. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE ME IF YOU DON'T SPEND THIS ON ROADS. I WILL NOT SPEND INTEREST TO BUILD BIRDHOUSES OVER AT CAMP SHE WIN WAY. TAKE THAT PART OUT OF THERE AND SAY IT HAS TO GO FOR CAPITAL

ROAD CONSTRUCTION. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: I WOULD SAY IT CAN SAY OTHER ROAD PROJECTS BUT I DON'T WANT TO SEE US HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE MOST OF US WON'T BE HERE AND THE NEXT BOARD MAY DECIDE THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT THAT SHOULDN'T BE DONE WITH IT. IT'S BEING DONE SPECIFICALLY FOR ROADS. I HAVE TO AGREE. I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO SPEND IT ANYWHERE BUT THESE MONEYS ARE INTENDED FOR ROADS.

SO, WHATEVER LANGUAGE HAS TO BE WHETHER IT'S OTHER ROAD PROJECTS--

>> WE CAN LEAVE IT. I WAS JUST ASKED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS AS BROAD AND FLEXIBLE AS POSSIBLE SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO BACK AFTER THE BONDS HAVE BEEN ISSUED TO NOTIFY THE BOND HOLDERS THAT WE COULD JUST COME TO YOU. SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE MAKING IT BR BROAD. BUT I CAN STAY AS ROADWAY PROJECTS BUT IT NEEDS TO BE THE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD.

>> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: IF THERE'S MONEY LEFT OVER FROM A ROAD PROJECT LET'S PAY OFF THE BONDS WITH IT INSTEAD OF WASTING IT ON A BALLPARK. WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF OTHER CAP PAL FUNDS TO SPEND ON A BALLPARK. BUT THIS BOND MONEY, WE'RE SPENDING QUITE A BIT OF MONEY AND SPENDING A LOT ON INTEREST HERE. AND I CAN LOOK MY CONSTITUENTS IN THE EYE AND SAY WE NEED THE ROADS BAD.

I'LL GO OUT ON A LIMB FOR THAT. I WASN'T EXACTLY IN FAVOR OF GOING OUT TO ARE BORROWING MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE. BUT I'VE COME AROUND TO THE POINT WHERE WE NEED THE ROADS WORSE THAN NOT SPENDING THE MONEY. BUT IF WE'RE GOING BE BUILDING OTHER STUFF WITH IT LIKE I SAID I'M

NOT GOING TO GO ALONG WITH THAT. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: AND I WOULD EVEN GO BEYOND TO PAYING THE BOND BACK. I WOULD PUT IT SOMEWHERE WHERE WE CAN USE OUT THE ROADS.

>> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: IF WE CAN USE IT ONNED ON -- ON ROADS I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.

>> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING: AGREED. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: I

AGREE. >> I'LL REVERSE THAT CHANGE. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER CIP FUNDS THAT WE CAN HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH. WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AS PART OF THESE SIX PROJECTS ALSO LOOKING AT RESURFACING AND PAVING OF SOME DIRT ROAD ODDS OUR LIST AND THAT TYPE OF THING. IS THERE AN AMOUNT WE WANT TO TALK? I MEAN, I KNOW WE DO IT IN A SPECIFIC RESOLUTION DOWN THE ROAD. BUT I THINK FROM A MESSAGING STANDPOINT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND WE'RE DOING BONDING FOR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT OTHER ROADS AREN'T GOING TO BE ADDRESSED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE AND THE BEST WAY TO MESSAGE OR EXPLAIN THAT WHERE IT'S SOMEWHAT OF A PACKAGE DEAL. EVEN THOUGH I KNOW IT'S TWO DIFFERENT POTS OF MONEY.

>> COMMISSIONER CELLA: I THINK AS STANDARD BUDGET ITEM DALE'S BEEN PUTTING IN MONEYS TO CONTINUE TO CONVERT DIRT ROADS TO PAVED ROADS. HE CAN TALK ABOUT HIS BUDGET BETTER THAN I CAN. BUT, I MEAN, THAT'S BEEN A STANDARD CIP ITEM FOR AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD

>> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: IF WE CAN INCREASE THAT. OBVIOUSLY THESE BOND PROJECTS ARE COMING OUT OF DIFFERENT POTS SO THAT IT FREES UP SOME OF THE CIP FUNDING.

>> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ONT OPPORTUNITY TO FURTHER INCREASE IMPACT FEES NEXT YEAR DEPENDING HOW THE STUDY COMES OUT. SINCE WE'RE NOT ENJOYING ANY OF THAT MONEY COMING BACK TO US WE CAN WORK WITH THE DEVELOPERS TO PUT THE MONEY IN THE ROADS THAT AREN'T THERE YET, RELIEVE SOME OF THE CAPACITY CONSTRAINTS WE'VE GOT ON SOME OF THE

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BUILD OUT I DON'T SEE -- >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: ESPECIALLY CONNECTOR ROADS THAT

ARE ALLEVIATING TRAFFIC. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: I DON'T DISAGREE. I THINK IF THEY'RE CONNECTOR ROADS, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE ANY MONEYS LEFTOVER IN TERMS OF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO BETTER THAN WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN TERMS OF ESTIMATES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM HAVING WHATEVER IS LEFT OVER APPLIED TO SOME OF THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THE AMOUNT OF MAINTENANCE MONEY WE'VE GOT TO THE WHOLE YEAR. THAT'S NEXT TO NOTHING. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO -- AND THAT'S GOT TO BE OPERATING FUNDS FROM WHAT I'M HEARING. IS THAT SORT OF TRUE? SO, THAT'S GOING TO GET TO BE CRITICAL AT SOME POINT. THERE'S A SEWER CAVE-IN AND YOU GOT TO TELL SOMEBODY I DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO FIX IT THIS YEAR YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR. THAT IS IN NOT GOING TO FLY. TO COMMISSIONER ROLLINS' CONCERN, WE'RE GOING TO BE COMMITTING HOW MUCH ON THE PAYBACK? IS IT

$9 MILLION A YEAR? >> $8.3 MILLION A YEAR. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: AND WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING ON THE ORDER OF $26 MILLION AVAILABLE COMING IN FROM THE SALES TAX? SO, THAT SHOULD LEAVE US WITH A GOOD CHUNK OF MONEY AND HOW WE APPROPRIATE THAT IS --

>> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: AND I KNOW PART OF IT IS COMMUNICATIO COMMISSIONS ARE AWARE. BUT FOR THE PUBLIC THE CHALLENGE WE FACE IS THERE'S DIFFERENT POTS OF MONEY. IT'S NOT JUST ONE GIANT POT OF MONEY THAT WE CAN SPEND WHEREVER WE WANT. FOR INSTANCE THE FUNDING FOR THE CONTRACT FOR BRINGING IN SPORTS, THAT WAS THROUGH TOURISM AND DEVELOPMENT FUNDS WHICH IS BED TAXES. AND IT CAN ONLY BE SPENT FOR THOSE TYPES OF PURPOSES. IT CAN'T BE SPENT ON FIXING A DUGOUT AT OMEGA PARK OR FIXING A BATHROOM AT KEYSTONE YOU KNOW. THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. IT CAN'T BE USED FOR THAT. IT HAS TO BE USED TO BRING PEOPLE INTO THE COUNTY FOR TOURISM. THEN SOME OF THESE FUNDS FOR ROADS, THEY'RE CIP, THEY CAN'T BE USED FOR MAINTENANCE. IF WE SAID WE'RE NOT DOING ANYMORE BUILDING OF ANY ROADS IT WOULD NOT INCREASE OUR MAINTENANCE BUDGET BECAUSE WE CAN'T USE MAINTENANCE FUNDS FOR THAT. THAT'S THE CHALLENGE IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC. THERE'S DIFFERENT POTS OF MONEY THAT HAVE TO BE USED FOR DIFFERENT THINGS. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE

CHALLENGES WE FACE IN TERMS OF SOME OF THESE DECISIONS. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: I THINK IF WE JUST FIX WHAT WE GOT ON THIS LIST, THAT'S A GREAT BASKET OF PROJECTS. IF WE CAN DO THAT FOR $125 MILLION OR LESS, THAT'S GREAT. WE PAY OFF THE BOND WITH THE EXTRA MONEY AND WE GO FOR ANOTHER BOND. IF WE HAVE TO IN FIVE OR SIX YEARS FOR THE NEXT PILE OF ROADS ON THE LIST IF WE CAN AFFORD IT. AND THAT BUILDS ACCOUNTABILITY FOR US. BECAUSE WE GO TO THE PUBLIC AND SAY THIS IS WHAT YOUR MONEY'S BEING SPENT ON. IT'S THE ONLY THING IT CAN BE SPENT ON. WE CAN'T BE PULLING SHENANIGANS WITH THIS. THESE ROADS HAVE TO GET FINISHED AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE USING THE

MONEY FOR. PERIOD. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

>> SO MR. CHAIRMAN THE INTENT TONIGHT WAS TO VOTE ON D AND WHAT THE VOTE WILL DO IS WILL SET US UP FOR THE 25TH OF FEBRUARY FOR THE FINAL RESOLUTIONS. IN THE MEANTIME, WHICH WILL ALSO GO ON AS COURTNEY ALLUDED, WE HAVE TO TALK TO THE TWO RATING AGENCIES HERE ON THURSDAY AND ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS. THEN WE'LL GO FORWARD AND ONCE THE 25TH IS THERE WE CAN HOLD A CIP REWORK WHICH WILL BE NEEDED. SO NOW WE HAVE THESE PROJECTS IDENTIFIED.

THERE WERE SOME CIP DOLLARS LIKE I LEWDED ON TUESDAY THAT WOULD BE FREED UP. WE CAN RELOOK AT THAT AND REWORK IT AND MOVE FORWARD ACCORDINGLY ON THAT AND TACKLE SOME OTHER PROJECTS, TOO.

AGAIN, WHEN WE'RE SERVICING THE BOND, THAT NOW HAS IMPACTED OUR CIP IN THOSE FUTURE YEARS WHERE WE HAVE PLANNED. SO WE HAVE TO DO THAT. SO THOSE ARE THE NEXT STEPS.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: GO AHEAD, MIKE. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: I STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN AN ANSWER AND MAYBE I HAVEN'T BEEN FORCEFUL ENOUGH. BUT $8.3 MILLION BOND PAYMENT AND WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT USING THE ONE CENT INFRASTRUCTURE SALES TAX FEE TO PAY THAT BUT WE HAVE A GAS TAX. I'VE ASKED WHAT IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? HOW THAT IS GOING TO IMPACT THAT NUMBER IF WE'RE COLLECTING 2-AND-A-HALF TO $3 MILLION A YEAR? ARE THOSE

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LOOKS LIKE MOST OF THE MONEYS THAT ARE COMING RIGHT NOW ARE OUT OF ZONE 2 WHICH WOULD BE APPLIED TO SOME OF THESE ROADS. SO, I THINK TO GET A REAL STRONG PICTURE OF WHAT WE HAVE AND

DON'T HAVE TO SPEND, THOSE NUMBERS HAVE TO BE INCLUDED. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: WELL I THINK WHEN IT ROLLS IN AND WE MAKE THE BOND PAYMENT FOR THE YEAR, EACH YEAR WE COULD GO YEAR

BY YEAR AND SEE WHERE WE ARE. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: NO QUESTION. I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. CERTAINLY THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE $8.3 MILLION AND HIS CIP FOR POSSIBILITIES OF INCREASING, YOU KNOW, THE PAVING OF DIRT ROADS AND YOUR $5 MILLION FOR MAINTAINING AND REPAVING ROADS. WHERE ARE WE GOING TO BE?

>> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: NOT TO MENTION THE ROUNDABOUTS WITH COMMISSIONER HENDRY'S STATUE IN

THEM. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: OR THE ADDITIONAL SEVEN PEOPLE THAT WE

DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR YET. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: ALL RIGHT FOLKS WE'VE SPENT A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME ON THIS. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS? MADAM ATTORNEY, I THINK WE NEED TO

VOTE ON B AND D? BRAVO AND DELTA? >> JUST D. JUST MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS IN AGREEMENT THAT THOSE WILL BE THE PROJECTS THAT WILL BE IDENTIFIED UNDER THE

RESOLUTION. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: PROJECT IDENTIFICATION FOR THE RESOLUTION. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR EVEN FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: I'LL MOVE APPROVAL ON D. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING:

SECOND. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? YOU GOT IT. MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS. ACCEPTANCE OF MAINTENANCE WITH

[10.  Acceptance of Maintenance with MSBU of the Kindlewood Phase 3 Subdivision]

>> SPEAKER: I'M SLOWLY GETTING UP. I LOST THE CHAIRMAN. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING: HE'LL

BE BACK. >> SPEAKER: SHALL I PROCEED? THIS IS THE KINDLEWOOD PAGE 3.

ANOTHER SUBDIVISION THAT'S BEEN BUILT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE APPROVED PLANS. THEY'VE SENT IN ALL THE PAPERWORK. WE'VE GOT WARRANTY BONDS, BONDS FOR THE ASPHALT AND THEY'RE ASKING US TO ACCEPT IT FOR MAINTENANCE. WITH THIS WE'RE GOING TO CREATE AN MSBU FOR ALL THE SURFACE

CONDITIONS. >> VICE CHAIR HUTCHING: ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY AYE. AYE. PLEASE NOTE FOR THE RECORD CHAIRMAN HENDRY

HAS STEPPED OUT OF THE ROOM. WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT ONE. >> SPEAKER: THE NEXT ONE IS

[11.  Acceptance of Maintenance with MSBU of the Cameron Oaks Phase 2 Subdivision]

>> VICE CHAIR HUTCHING: OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS. WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY AYE. THE MOTION CARRIES 4-0.

>> SPEAKER: THE NEXT ONE WHICH IS A RIGHT-OF-WAY CLOSURE. WE'RE HERE TO ASK FOR A RESOLUTION TO

[12.  Emalyn Place ROW Closure]

>> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING: I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY AYE. MOTION

CARRIES 4-0. COUNTY EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS CENTER. >> SPEAKER: THIS ITEM WAS

[13.  RFP #19/20-13, County Emergency Communications Center (Call Center) Consultant]

[02:10:03]

FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: SO MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE WHEN IS

THE FINISH DATE. YOU ARE TALKING 180 DAYS? >> SPEAKER: YES.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: SO WE NEED TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENT, THE VENDOR, AND THE WAIVER?

>> SPEAKER: THE BID AWARD, THE AGREEMENT AND THE WAIVER. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: MADAM ATTORNEY CAN WE DO THAT IN ONE MOTION OR ARE THOSE SEPARATE ACTIONS?

>> AS LONG AS THE MOTION INCLUDES IT ALL. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: SO MOVED

[LAUGHTER] >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING: SECOND.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: I THINK THAT PRESERVES THE RECORD. WE ARE ARTICULATED THE THREE THINGS.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THANK YOU. ITEM 14. ADVANCED PAYMENT CUSTOM PUMPER AND TANKER. CHIEF, THIS IS YOUR BABY I BELIEVE. YOU

[14.  Advanced Payment - Custom Pumper and Tanker]

STILL WANT IT I GUESS? >> SPEAKER: YES, SIR. BEFORE YOU IS A PROPOSAL TO PURCHASE BOTH A CUSTOM PUMPER TO REPLACE THE EXISTING SPECIAL OPERATIONS PUMPER THAT OPERATES OUT OF LAKE ASBURY AND SERVES THE COUNTY AS PART OF THE TECHNICAL RESCUE TEAM FOR THE COUNTY. ALSO A TENDER DOWN IN MCCRAY. ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF UTILIZING THE SHERIFF'S CONTRACT THAT IS A STATEWIDE CONTRACT IN THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE THAT WE GET OUT OF THAT PROCUREMENT SHOWS IN THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE GET ABOUT A SIX PERCENT DISCOUNT ALREADY AS PART OF BEING THAT LARGE CORPORATE BUY FOR THE STATE THAT WE ARE INCLUDED IN IS THE OPTION TO DO SOME PREPAYMENT OF THOSE APPARATUS. THE PREPAYMENT HAS SUBSTANTIAL DISCOUNTS THAT THE COUNTY CAN RECEIVE BY DOING. FOR THE PUMPER IT IS $18,114,000 REDUCTION. AND FOR THE TENDER IT'S $13,857. OUR PROPOSAL IS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT PREPAYMENT. OBVIOUSLY THE PAYMENT OF IT EARLY ALLOWS US TO TAKE SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTIONS THAT WE WOULD NOT RECEIVE BY THAT. WE SORT OF RAN THAT BY BOTH THE COMMISSION AWEDOR AND THE BUDGET OFFICE. THEY CONCUR THAT SEEMS TO BE A REASONABLE MEANS OF SAVE DOLLARS FOR THE COUNTY AND THAT PROSE IS IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT TO RECEIVE THAT EXTRA SAVINGS.

>> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: MOVE APPROVAL. COMMISSION >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING: I HAVE

A QUESTION. THESE WERE IN THE CIP PLAN THIS YEAR? >> SPEAKER: YES.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED.

SO, DONE, CHIEF. ITEM 15. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: WHAT'S THE INTEREST ON A MILLION

DOLLARS FOR A YEAR? >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: TOO MUCH. TENTH AMENDMENT AGREEMENT

[15.  Tenth Amendment to Agreement #09/10-141 with Tracker Software Corporation, Inc.]

TRACKER SOFTWARE CORPORATION. >> SPEAKER: TRACKER INFORMATION SERVICES. THIS IS THE RENEWAL OF THE SOFTWARE USED FOR PUBLIC WORKS PARKS AND REC AND BUILDING MAINTENANCE TO TRACK THEIR SERVICE REQUESTS AND WORK DONE, EMPLOYEE HOURS, MACHINE HOURS, THAT KIND OF STUFF. THE REASON WE'RE LOOKING AT ERP SOFTWARE AND OTHER SOFTWARE FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. AND SOME OF THOSE SOFTWARE PACKAGES INCLUDE A PUBLIC WORKS OR BUILDING MAINTENANCE COMPONENT. SO WE ASK TO RENEW THIS AND ALLOW US TO CONTINUE LOOKING AT OTHER SOLUTIONS THAT MAY INCORPORATE

THIS INTO THEM. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: WHY DIDN'T YOU BID THIS NOW?

>> SPEAKER: BECAUSE IF WE BID THIS NOW THEN GO WITH ANOTHER SOLUTION WE MAY BE CHANGING A SECOND TIME IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS. AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BUILDING SOFTWARE AND LOOKING AT POTENTIAL SOFTWARE FOR ENFINANCIAL SYSTEMS SOME OF THOSE INCLUDE THIS. IF WE BID THOSE NOW AND MOVE TO ANOTHER VENDOR AND YOU HAVE THAT PIECE ON IT YOU WOULD BE CHANGING A

SECOND TIME POTENTIALLY. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: SO TEN YEARS IN A ROW WITHOUT A BID IS NOT WHAT THE INTENTION I THINK OF OUR POLICY IS. I MEAN, I DON'T CARE IF YOU KEEP IT OR NOT BUT JUST BID IT ONCE IN A WHILE SO WE CAN SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING BETTER TO DO YOU KNOW.

. >> I THINK TO JUST BE CLEAR -- THIS IS FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT. NOT FOR THE NEW SOFTWARE. SO, IF WE BID FOR THE NEW SOFTWARE WE WOULD BE SWITCHING TO AN ENTIRELY NEW PROGRAM. IT WOULDN'T BE JUST $14,000. IT WOULD BE WAY MORE.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE INDUSTRY, TROY, IS THAT 14 GRAND, IS THAT

COMPETITIVE? >> SPEAKER: FOR WHAT YOU ARE GETTING RIGHT NOW THAT'S PROBABLY REALLY LOW COST OF MAINTENANCE. THIS IS ON-SITE HOSTED APPLICATION AND MOST OF THE APPLICATIONS HAVE MOVED TO SAAS OR SOFTWARE IN THE CLOUD I CAN TELL YOU IF YOU GO TO

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>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: OKAY. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING: I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE SOFTWARE

PACKAGE. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? SO, DONE.

[16.  Naming of New Fleming Island Baseball Park on Thunderbolt Road]

>> SPEAKER: AS WE NEAR THE COMPLETION OF THE NEW BASEBALL PARK ON FLEMING ISLAND WE NEED TO SELECT A NAME. STAFF IS OFFERING THE NAME OF NEPTUNE PARK AS A CHOICE. I HAVE RICK HOWARD WITH ME TODAY. HE HAS DONE EXTENSIVE RESEARCH FOR THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE FOR THIS

CHOICE AND HE IS GOING TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF PRESENTATION. >> SPEAKER: GOOD EVENING. IT IS A TRUE HONOR FOR ME TO ACTUALLY PRESENT THIS SUBJECT TO YOU. THE NAMES THAT YOU SEE UP THERE ON THAT SLIDE HAVE BECOME VERY DEAR TO MY HEART. NOT ONLY BECAUSE I'VE COME TO KNOW THE MEN IN THAT SLIDE BUT I'VE TALKED TO THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS. FOUR OF THEM OF WHICH -- THEY'RE IN THEIR 70S NOW AND THEY'RE ALL VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THIS EFFORT. WHAT I LIKE TO DO IS PRESENT A VERY ABBREVIATED SLIDE PRESENTATION TO YOU OF WHAT I PUT IN YOUR BOX YESTERDAY AND MANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN. I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE YOU COMMISSIONER HENDRY WITH YOUR MOMENT IN HISTORY FROM 69 YEARS AGO. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME, IF YOU ALLOW ME TO READ FOUR PARAGRAPHS FROM THE MEMORY OF A MAN WHO WAS PART OF THE SQUADRON AT THE TIME THIS HAPPENED. LET ME TELL YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIM PLEASE. HIS NAME, PERHAPS YOU HAVE HEARD OF HIM, MARK HALSEY, JR. HE WAS BORN IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA ON SEPTEMBER 25, 1922. HE HAD THE UNUSUAL EXPERIENCE OF SERVING IN TWO DIFFERENT BRANCHES OF THE NAVY IN TWO WARS. IN WORLD WAR II HE SERVED ABOARD AN LST AND DURING THE KOREAN WAR IN AN AVIATION SQUADRON. HE IS A GRADUATE OF THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA LAW SCHOOL AND IS IN THE PRACTICE OF LAW IN JACKSONVILLE. MR. HALSEY HAS BEEN A PROMINENT MEMBER MUCH THE JACKSONVILLE PORT AUTHORITY. AND I MIGHT ADD HE WENT ON TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE FLORIDA BAR FROM 1969-1970. PLEASE ALLOW ME TO READ A FEW PARAGRAPHS OF HIS MEMORIES OF THIS EVENT. THEY SHED A LOT OF LIGHT ON IT. HE SAYS... AFTER DISCHARGE FROM THE NAVY IN 1946 AND ENROLLING IN THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA LAW SCHOOL I JOINED THE NAVAL RESERVE SQUADRON AT NAS-JACKSONVILLE MARCH 1947 AS AN NAVIGATORND A ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER. I REMAINED WITH VP741 UNTIL DECEMBER 31, 1952. VP741 WAS AN ANTI-SUBMARINE WARFARE SQUADRON WITH PATROL AND RECONNAISSANCE QUALIFICATIONS. WE HAD NINE PTV AIRPLANES WHICH WERE THE PREDECESSORS TO THE P3 ORIONS YOU NOW SEE EVERY DAY OVER JA BING. OR USED TO. OUR RESERVE DUTIES REQUIRED DRILLS ONE WEEKEND PER MONTH TWO WEEKS ACTIVE DUTY EACH YEAR. WE WERE CALLED TO ACTIVE DUTY JANUARY 1952 DURING THE KOREAN WAR. WE RETURNED TO ENACTIVE DUTY ON DECEMBER 31, 1952. WE WERE STATIONED AT NAS-JAX EXCEPT ONE SIX MONTH PERIOD IN THE MEDITERRANEAN SEA TO CARRY OUT OUR MISSIONS AND PARTICIPATE IN EXERCISES WITH THE SIXTH FLEET.

THE NAVY HAS CONTINUED EVER SINCE WITH THOSE SIX MONTH DEPLOYMENTS. DURING OUR ENACTIVE PERIOD WE FLEW ANTI-SUBMARINE WARFARE AND RECONNAISSANCE HOPS FROM ARGENTINA, NEW FINLAND TO TRINIDAD. NEEDLESS TO SAY MY WIFE WAS NOT CONVINCED THESE FLIGHTS WERE NECESSARY. WHILE ON ACTIVE DUTY WE LOST ONE PLANE AT FLEMING ISLAND FLORIDA. I WAS DESIGNATED THE CRASH LIAISON OFFICER. OUR SQUADRON EXECUTIVE OFFICER, LIEUTENANT COMMANDER L. B. WORLEY, WAS A P2 NEPTUNE PILOT ON A ROUTINE TRAINING MISSION FROM NAS JAX TO WEST PALM BEACH. ON A RETURN FLIGHT TO NAS SMOKE WAS DETECTED AND THE CRASH BAR HIT TURNING OFF ALL ELECTRICITY IN THE PLANE. L.

B. DECIDED TO LAND AT THE FLEMING ISLAND FIELD USED IN WORLD WAR II. COWS ON THE RUNWAY PREVENTD THIS SO HE WENT AROUND TO TRY AGAIN. HE PUSHED THE PROPELLERS TO FULL POWER BUT THE

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AND THE NEXT THING IS THE AIRCRAFT, THE NEPTUNE AIRPLANE, WHICH I HADN'T HEARD TOO MUCH ABOUT THOSE. THIS WAS A FEW YEARS AFTER WORLD WAR II SO A LITTLE OUT OF MY REALM OF STUDY BUT IT CAUGHT MY INTEREST. THAT'S THE P2V2 NEPTUNES. THEY WERE PROMINENT FOR MANY YEARS IN THIS AREA. FROM THE EARLY 50S UNTIL EARLY 1984 I THANK YOU WE STILL HAD SOME FLYING AROUND HERE. THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT DIAGRAM I WANT TO SHOW YOU. A FEW OF THE LABELS WERE LOST DURING TRANSLATION OF MY SLIDES TO THE CORRECT TEMPLATE BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE TWO BLACK -- OR ONE IS A BLACK RECTANGLE. THAT'S THE CURRENT LOCATION OF THUNDER BOLT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. THE LARGER BLACK SQUARE IS WHERE THE YMCA IS. AS I'M SURE MOST ARE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE TWO BUILDINGS ON FLEMING ISLAND, THOSE ARE GOOD LANDMARKS. YOU CAN SEE THE RED ARROWS WHICH INDICATE THE APPROACH OF THE AIRPLANE WHILE TRYING TO MAKE A LANDING. AND YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN ARROW POINTS THAT THE ONLY PLACE ON THIS WHOLE AIRFIELD WHERE THERE WERE TALL PINE TREES THAT IT COULD HAVE HIT AS MENTIONED IN THE CRASH REPORTS.

THE OUTLINE BLUE AREA IS WHERE OUR PARK'S AT. THE RED CRASH ZONE WITH THE HASHMARKS IS MY ESTIMATION OF WHERE THE FINAL REMAINS OF THE CRASH WERE. WHERE THE PLANE CAME TO A FINAL RESTING PLACE. SO, YOU CAN SEE THIS HAS REALLY BEEN AN AMAZING DISCOVERY TO ME THAT WE'RE BUILDING A PARK LITERALLY WHERE THIS PLANE CAME TO REST AND WHERE THOSE MEN DIED. AND THAT'S REALLY PRESSED ME INTO STUDYING THIS THING. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT SLIDE? SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. THE RED ARROWS ALSO INDICATE I'M SURE A LOT OF YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT THUNDER BEELITH RACEWAY THAT WAS PROMINENT DURING THE 60S AND 70S. THAT WAS THE RUNWAY USED FOR THAT. HERE'S THE FATALITIES. I'VE TALKED TO LESTER'S DAUGHTER. SHE IS IN HER 70S. SHE LIVES IN TENNESSEE. WHEN I GOT HOLD OF HER SHE THOUGHT I WAS TRYING TO GET MONEY FROM HER. IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO BUILD TRUST WITH HER. AND THEN SHE BECAME EMOTIONAL AND REALLY APPRECIATED THE EFFORTS. TWO CRASH SURVIVORS. RALPH HAL JONES. HIS GRANDDAUGHTER INTERVIEWED HIM IN 1993 ABOUT HIS LIFE AND HE SPENDS A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THE CRASH. I LINK TO IT ON TO THE DETAILED POWER POINT THAT I GAVE. I WOULD RECOMMEND ANYBODY THAT'S INTERESTED TO READ THAT INTERVIEW. JOHN BARNETT. I'VE SEARCHED HIGH AND LOW, CAN'T FIND ANYTHING ABOUT HIM. ALL I KNOW IS HE IS ONE LUCKY GUY. HE SURVIVED WITH

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THERE'S STILL A LOT OF RETIREES. DURING WORLD WAR II WE HAD SIX OR FIVE OUTLINE FIELDS. PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THE BIG ONES AT BRANDING AND FLEMING ISLAND BUT THEY FORGET ABOUT THE ONES AT MIDDLEBURG FOREMOST AND BELL MORE. FINALLY, JUST AS SOMEBODY WHO LIVES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAS LIVED HERE FOR 15 YEARS, I CAN TELL YOU WE HAVE A HEAVY NAVY PRESENCE. THAT PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT TO THE NEW PARK IS HEAVILY INHABITED BY NAVY FAMILIES, RETIREES AND CHILDREN. I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THE NEW PARK WILL BE UTILIZED BY NAVY FAMILIES. AND I WOULD THINK THEY WOULD APPRECIATE A NAME WITH SOME NAVY HERITAGE. SO, BY NAMING THE PARK NEPTUNE PARK CLAY COUNTY WOULD NOT ONLY PAY TRIBUTE TO THE CREW OF THE CRASH BUT TO THE COUNTY'S LONG HISTORY OF NAVAL HERITAGE DATING BACK TO WORLD WAR II. NAVY FAMILIES AND NAVY RETIRED WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE OF PARK USERS. AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE 47 PARKS INCLUDING BOAT RAMS PS IN THE COUNTY AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF THEM HAVE ANY LINK TO A NAVAL HERITAGE. THAT'S KIND OF HARD TO BELIEVE. SO, CLAY COUNTY RESPECTFULLY, THE STAFF, PARKS AND REC FACILITIES, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AND THINK IT WOULD BE ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE IF WE NAME THE NEW PARK NEPTUNE PARK. THANK YOU. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: THANK YOU, RICK. APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS TO MY ATTENTION. I KNOW A LOT ABOUT CLAY COUNTY BUT I HAD NEVER EVEN HEARD THAT STORY BEFORE. SO THANK YOU. BOARD'S

PLEASURE? >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: MOVE APPROVAL.

>> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING: SECOND. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. JAMES I WOULD ADD THAT THE NAME NEPTUNE PARK IS GOING TO TO HAVE THE TRUE MEANING UNLESS WE HAVE AN INFORMATION BOARD ERECTED NEAR THAT SIGN OR UNDERNEATH IT OR

WHATEVER. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: HE IS GOING TO BE STANDING THERE TO

GIVE THE TOUR RIGHT [LAUGHTER] >> SPEAKER: I'D BE GLAD TO. SIR, IN MY MIND -- WHAT I DREAM ABOUT IN THE FUTURE IS IF WE NAME THE PARK NEPTUNE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE WE'RE GOING HAVE A FLAG POLE ON THAT PARK AS WE DO IN MOST OF OUR PARK IS BELIEVE.

I ENVISION A SMALL PLAQUE THERE THAT SAYS HONORING THE SPOT 69 YEARS AGO OR IN 1951 THESE MEMBERS GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR THEIR COUNTRY. OR SOMETHING TO THAT AFFECT. THAT'S WHAT I

ENVISION. XHIM >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: THAT'S FINE. JUST SOMETHING TO LET THE PEOPLE

KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT SPECIFIC SITE. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO DEDICATE THE FIELD. IS IT SOMETHING THAT MR. -- I WOULD ASSUME THE RELATIVES WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET HERE. BUT MR. HALSEY WOULD HE BE AVAILABLE?

>> SPEAKER: MR. HALSEY PASSED AWAY. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: A SHAME.

I'M GLAD YOU WERE ABLE TO TALK TO HIM BEFORE. >> SPEAKER: THERE ARE OTHER

LOCAL RELATIVES. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: SO LET'S KEEP THAT IN MIND. AND THE

INVITATION GOING OUT. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU AGAIN, RICK.

MOVING ON TO ITEM 18. STAFF IS REQUESTING APPROVAL TO AWARD BID 18/19-28 KNIGHT'S MARINA PIER

[17.  Bid #18/19-38, Knight's Marina Pier Reconstruction]

DECKING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE USED AT CAMP CHEW WIN WAY? >> SPEAKER: SIMILAR BUT IT'S

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>> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: GIVES US A PLACE TO SEND OUR OLD MILK BOTTLES TOO. THAT'S WHAT THE

STUFF IS MADE OUT OF >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: HOW MUCH ARE WE HOPING TO GET OW OF FEMA ON

THIS? >> SPEAKER: 310, 504. WE'RE STILL IN COMMUNICATIONS WITH FEMA. WE'VE SHARED THE COST AS THE BIDS CAME BACK. AND WE HAVE ONGOING COMMUNICATION WITH THEM

AND SEE IF THEY'RE COVER ANYMORE OF THE DIFFERENCE. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: BUT THEY'RE

COVERING THE BULK OF IT. >> SPEAKER: BETTER THAN 80% AT THIS POINT.

>> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: SO THIS WILL ALLOW US TO GET THE MARINA CHARGES BACK UP TO THE FULL

RATE? >> SPEAKER: YES, SIR. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: HOW LONG

WILL IT TAKE US TO PAY OFF $437,000? >> SPEAKER: ONLY OUR PORTION.

FEMA IS GOING TO GET THE REST [LAUGHTER] . THAT NUMBER COULD COME DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY. I MENTIONED I'M TALKING ABOUT THE HDPE, THAT WAS PART OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS BACK TO THE STATE AS A MITIGATION EFFORT TO HOPEFULLY THEY'LL BUY OFF ON THE REST OF IT OR AT

LEAST A PORTION OF IT. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. SO, DONE. NUMBER 18. APPROVAL OF INNERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN JACKSONVILLE AND CLAY

[18.  Approval of Interlocal Agreement between the City of Jacksonville and Clay County for Automatic and Mutual Aid and Sale of Surplus Equipment]

>>SPEAKER: BACK IN DECEMBER YOU APPROVED THE ABILITY FOR THE COUNTY TO PURCHASE FROM THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE A USED COMMAND VAN THAT ACTUALLY I KIDDED I BOUGHT WHEN I WAS THE OPERATIONS CHIEF IN THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE WAY BACK IN THE EARLY 2000S. AND THEY PLACED IT OUT OF SERVICE. IT WAS ON SURPLUS. WE HAD A DEAL FOR $10,000. ONE OF THE THINGS I DON'T THINK WE REALIZED AT THE TIME BUT FOUND OUT SINCE THERE'S AN ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE THAT REQUIRES THEM TO PLACE THAT SALE INTO THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS FOR AUTOMATIC AND MUTUAL AID WITH WHATEVER ENTITY RECEIVES THAT AWARD. AND WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS THAT AGREEMENT. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT AUTOMATIC AND MUTUAL AID THAT WE ENJOY WITH THE CITY. BOTH GOING TO AND COMING FROM. AND WE'LL PLACE THAT VEHICLE INTO THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE CODE. IF YOU, YOU APPROVE IT IT GOES THE CITY. ONCE THEY DONE HOPEFULLY ON OR BEFORE APRIL 1ST WE CAN RECEIVE THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE AGREED TO

PURCHASE FROM THEM IN DECEMBER. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: OKAY. APPROVAL AND A SECOND.

DISCUSSION? >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PUMPER TRUCKS FOR SALE

OVER THERE? >> SPEAKER: NO [LAUGHTER]

THEY TEND TO USE THEM PRETTY HARD MUCH LIKE WE DO. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED. SO, DONE. THANK YOU, CHIEF. ITEM 19. USA CYCLING EVENT.

[19.  USA Cycling Event]

>> SPEAKER: MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS, TWO ITEMS. FIRST ITEM UP FOR USA CYCLING EVENT.

WE'RE ONE OF FOUR TOWNS AND COUNTIES. THOSE OTHER THREE ARE TULSA, OKLAHOMA, DES MOINES, IOWA, AND OGDEN, UTAH. WE'RE COMPETING FOR THE USA CYCLE AMATEUR NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS HERE IN JUNE. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THIS EVENT IN KNOXVILLE, TENNESSEE AND THINGS FELL THROUGH. THEY HAVE QUICKLY RALLIED THE TROOPS AND CAME DOWN HERE. IT IS A SERIES OF THREE RACES WITH ABOUT 700-800 COMPETITORS. THIS IS ONE OF THE QUALIFYING EVENTS FOR THE OLYMPICS. THEY GO OVER TO EUROPE FROM THIS AS AN EXAMPLE TO CONTINUE THEIR COMPETITION.

THERE'S ALSO AN OLDER GROUP THAT ALSO IS IN THERE THAT STILL HAS HOPES OF TURNING PRO WITHIN THE GROUP. I MENTION THE AGES HERE SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST 800. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY PARENTS WOULD BE ACCOMPANYING THEIR CHILDREN HERE AND COACHES AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. AGAIN, I ALLUDED TO THIS. THE CYCLING REPRESENTATIVE CAME HERE LAST WEEK.

COMMISSIONER BOLLA AND I HAD A NICE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH HIM AND A COUPLE OTHER BIKERS THAT WERE THERE. AND WE HOPE TO HEAR SOMETHING BY END OF HE WEEK. SO, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

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>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: VERY GOOD. THIS IS FOR INFORMATION ONLY. >> SPEAKER: YES, SIR. SO, YOU WILL PROBABLY HEAR SOMETHING FROM KIMBERLY HERE ON THURSDAY AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW. THE NEXT

[COUNTY ATTORNEY]

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: COUNTY ATTORNEY? >> SPEAKER: NOTHING FURTHER

UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: WE'RE DONE. OKAY. NO TIME CERTAIN. ANY LETTERS OF ACTION, LETTERS OF DOCUMENTATION? HEARING NONE WE'RE DOWN TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

MR. AUTO. >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: YES, SIR. JAMES AUTO, 2904-2910 BLANDING BOULEVARD SEX AND BUDS CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA. THE CHAIR CALLED ME OUT AGAIN. OTHER PEOPLE ARE TALKING IN HERE. YOU ARE TRYING TO TELL ME I CAN'T TALK AT ALL IN THIS MEETING? I'VE NEVER HEARD SUCH A THING. THE LAST MEETING THE CHAIR LEFT RIGHT BEFORE A VOTE. I WOULD ASK THAT THE CHAIR MAKE A VOTE FOR WHATEVER WAS ON THE AGENDA TODAY. SHOULDN'T BE A FOUR VOTE IT SHOULD BE A FIVE VOTE. ONE PILE OF MONEY. I ALSO PUT A CAR IN FOR NUMBER 9. LET'S SEE. THE ROAD CONGESTION. IT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER. IT'S GOING GET WORSE WITH ALL THIS CONSTRUCTION. YOU ARE TRYING TO DO IT ALL AT THE SAME TIME. I ASKED YOU TO SLOW DOWN. JUST DO A COUPLE OF PROJECTS AS THEY PAY FOR THEMSELVES. YOU CAN FULFILL YOUR WISH LIST WITH THE $40 MILLION. YOU KNOW, AFTER THE ANIMAL PART OF THE MEETING, WE SHOULD HAVE THE PUBLIC MEETING OR THE PUBLIC COMMENTS LIKE WE HAVE IN THE PAST. THERE'S WAY MORE CITIZENS HERE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING AND WHEN YOU WAIT UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF THE MEETING THEN ALLOW A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS ARE GONE AND THEY CAN'T MAKE COMMENTS. I AGREE, WE NEED A LOT MORE THAN $800,000 FOR THE DRAPAGE ISSUES. IF YOU HAVE LOOKED AT THE CITIZENS OUT HERE, WE HAD TWO ROOMS FULL ON OLD HARD ROAD. AND OTHER MEETINGS. THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE FILLING THE ROOMS WITH.

I DON'T SEE TOO MANY PEOPLE HERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS BONDING. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. THEY HAVE NO CLUE. ARE YOU PUTTING THIS ON FACEBOOK AND EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON IN THIS COMMUNITY SHOULD BE ON FACEBOOK SO THAT ALL THESE FOLKS CAN SEE IT AND CITIZENS PLEASE EMAIL YOUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. DON'T CALL THEM. PLEASE DO IT IN WRITING. MINUTES ARE VAGUE. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT. THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME UP HERE, I BELIEVE HE DOES CONSTRUCTION, I DO VERY LITTLE CONSTRUCTION SO WE'RE DEFINITELY -- I'M MORE ON THE SAME PAGE OF MR. CLEMSMAN AND THE OTHER FOLKS THAT AREN'T IN CONSTRUCTION. WE NEED TO SLOW THAT DOWN. CLAY COUNTY NEEDS TO BE AUDITED. I'VE GONE TO TALLAHASSEE AND ASKED THEM TO DO THAT. IT'S VERY UNCONSTITUTIONAL WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. TO TELL ME THAT I CAN'T SPEAK IN A MEETING, COME ON FOLKS. I'VE BEEN COMING TO THESE MEETINGS FOR 15 YEARS. I SIT OUT THERE ALL THE TIME AND TALK TO OTHER CITIZENS. THE CHAIR IS GOING TO TELL ME I CAN'T TALK TO PEOPLE OUT THERE? YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME? HONESTLY. AND, SIR, YOU DON'T KNOW THAT'S DR. BURKE? YOU ARE ADDRESSING HER AS MRS. BURKE. THAT'S TOTALLY DISRESPECTFUL. I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE -- I CAN'T EVEN GRASP THE AMOUNT OF DISRESPECT THAT IS GOING ON HERE. THE NEXT TWO BOARDS ARE GOING TO JUST -- THEY'RE GOING TO GET SLAMMED BY THE CITIZENS. YOU THINK OLD HART ROAD IS BAD?

THAT'S JUST THE START. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: TIME'S UP. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

TAKE A SEAT. BRING IT BACK THO THE BOARD FOR FINAL COMMENTS. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: HE'S GOT

ANOTHER COMMENT. THE GENTLEMAN IN THE BACK >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: I'M SORRY.

>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: I'M NOT SPEAKING ON THAT BEHALF. MIKE ROGERS 3334 THUNDER ROAD. I WANT

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I THINK THAT WITH HELP ELIMINATE SOME -- NOT ELIMINATE JUST LIKE RUSSELL LANDING I DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN THAT. THAT'S A BIG ISSUE. PUT A CHAIN-LINK FENCE AROUND THAT. IT REALLY DOESN'T -- YOU KNOW THAT'S AN ISSUE BUT I THINK A PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THAT WHOLE LAKE ASBURY AREA WOULD PROBABLY ELIMINATE A LOT OF STUFF COMING BACK TO THE BOARD. EVERY TIME WE COME THERE'S SOME TYPE OF REZONING CHANGE, MO. THAT'S THE MAN'S LAND LET HIM DO WHAT HE IS GOING TO DO. I THINK A PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THAT AREA WOULD PROBABLY MAKE A LITTLE BIT OF SENSE DOWN THE ROAD. LIKE I SAID, I'LL KEEP THE COMMENTS THERE. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE SOMEHOW IN THAT MONUMENT FOR THAT PARK. THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER CELLA: THANK YOU, SIR. JAMES HOUSEHOLDER, YOU WANT TO LEAVE YOUR NAME AND

NUMBER WITH HIM? >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: NOW WE'RE BACK TO THE BOARD. GAVIN?

[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]

>> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: THIS MONDAY OR MONDAY FEBRUARY 24TH I THINK THIS HAS BEEN POSTED ON FACEBOOK TOO BUT WE HAVE A FIRE WATCH MEETING. FIRE WATCH IS THE EFFORT TO REDUCE VETERAN SUICIDE ON THE FIRST COAST, NORTHEAST FLORIDA AREA, FIVE COUNTY COALITION. THEY'RE GOING TO DIFFERENT COUNTIES AND MEETING AND TALKING ABOUT IT. THERE'S A NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND HE IS GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE APP AND WAYS TO GET INVOLVED. WHETHER YOU ARE A VETERAN WHO NEEDS HELP, WHETHER YOU ARE A VETERAN WHO WANTS TO HELP, OR WHETHER YOU ARE BOTH OR YOU ARE NOT A VETERAN WHO WANTS TO HELP. ANYBODY IS WELCOME TO CO AM TO THIS MEETING AND FIND OUT HOW YOU CAN BE INVOLVED IN HELPING REDUCE VETERANS SUICIDE IN OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S FEBRUARY 24TH

FROM 6-8:00 P.M. IT'S GOING TO BE HERE. SO. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING: I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN. WOULD THERE BE A CONSENSUS AMONG US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT? BECAUSE THERE CERTAINLY IS A PROBLEM WITH INGRESS AND EGRESS INTO THAT AREA WITH THE RAILROAD THERE. AND ADDING TO THAT POPULATION TO ME IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD TAKE A

LOOK AT. JUST A THOUGHT. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: AS FAR AS A CORRECTIVE MEASURE?

>> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING: JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE DENSITY APPROVED AND MAKE SURE THAT'S

SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE NOTE WORTHY.

WELL, HOW DO WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN? WHAT'S THE METHODOLOGY. >> I'LL DEFER TO SHARICE. BUT FIRST A PROPOSAL WAS TAKEN TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN BROUGHT TO THE BOARD WHICH YOU VOTED DOWN. SO, I THINK WHAT WE WOULD FIRST NEED TO COME BACK AS A DISCUSSION ITEM WITH ED AVAILABLE AND LET'S GET YOUR IDEAS SO THAT THEN WE CAN START WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND

COME BACK. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING: OKAY. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: THE

DENSITY BONUS HAS TO BE APPROVED RIGHT. IT'S NOT AUTOMATIC? >> RIGHT. AND IT'S TIED TO THE CLEAN UP. SHARICE AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER TODAY. SO, BASED ON THE CURRENT LAND USE AND THE CURRENT ZONING, THERE ISN'T ANYTHING THAT WE BELIEVE THE PROPERTY OWNER COULD DO ON THAT PROPERTY WITHOUT FIRST COMING TO YOU AND ASKING FOR EITHER A LAND USE OR ZONING

CHANGE OR BOTH. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT'S WHY

I WAS CONFUSED AS -- >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: I WASN'T ADVOCATING THE BONUS. I WAS JUST TRYING TO RELATE WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED. IF WE REMOVE ALL POSSIBILITY OF THEM DOING

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SOMETHING ELSE WITH IT. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING: YOU ARE NOT REMOVING ALL POSITION BUT BUT WHY SWEETEN THE POT FOR SOMEBODY THAT HASN'T BEEN RESPONSIBLE.

>> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: THE OTHER ARGUMENT IS ON THE BACK OF THAT. IF THERE'S NO REASON FOR THEM TO

DO ANYTHING WHY NOT JUST LET IT SIT THERE FOR 20 YEARS. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING: THEN THE OTHER THING WAS THE DEP MEETING. IF THE CITIZENS HAVE THAT MEETING, I'D LIKE TO OFFER OUR MEETING ROOM AND TO RECORD IT. BECAUSE I FOR ONE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL BE AVAILABLE WHEN THEIR MEETING TIME IS GOING TO BE. BUT IF WE HOSTED HERE THEY

COULD -- >> SPEAKER: SURE. MR. GILL IS AND I HAVE EMAILED BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THE D EARNINGS P CONTACT. BUT I CAN REACH BACK OUT TO HIM IF YOU WANT IT HOSTED

HERE. I CAN TRY TO COORDINATE THAT. >> COMMISSIONER HUTCHING: I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE CONTENT OF THE MEETING. AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ATTEND THE MEETING OR NOT WITH MY SCHEDULE. SO HOW DO YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT THAT? DID YOU WANT TO BE INCLUDED?

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: AT LEAST THE OPPORTUNITY TO. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: YEAH. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, QUITE HONESTLY I THINK WE NEED TO MAYBE MOVE TO THE NEXT STEP IN TERMS OF DEALING WITH DEP. I MEAN, IF THEY'RE ONLY LOOKING TO DO COMMERCIAL REMEDY, AND NOT LOOKING TO CLEAN IT UP TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU COULD PUT RESIDENTIAL HOMES ON THAT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S ENOUGH. I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD LEFT THEM OFF GOING THREE QUARTERS OF THE WAY INSTEAD OF ALL THE WAY. SO, I DON'T KNOW EITHER WE PUT SOME KIND OF PRESSURE ON DEP OR BRING STATE LEGISLATIVE PRESSURE ON DEP TO LOOK A DIFFERENT WAY. I MEAN, WHY DID THEY -- IS THAT

THE PROPOSAL THAT STONERIDGE PUT FORTH? >> BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING AND I WOULD RATHER YOU HEAR THIS FROM THE DEP BECAUSE THIS HAS QUITE SOME HISTORY. BUT BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT HE WAS READING FROM WAS AN ATTACHMENT TO A LETTER THAT WAS APPROVED AND ADOPTED BACK IN 2011 BY THE DEP. SO THAT IS A PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2011. AND HAS NEVER BEEN MOVED FORWARD AS FAR AS THE TESTING TO COMPLY WITH THE PLAN. SO WHAT THEY WILL DO IS WHEN THEY DO EACH INDIVIDUAL TESTING AND THEY COME BACK THEY'LL DETERMINE IF YOU KNOW WHAT THE CORRECTIVE MEASURES ARE AND HOW THEY MESH WITH THAT PLAN. BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, I MEAN, NECESSARILY THE DEP CONTACT WOULD BE ABLE TO DISCUSS WHEN THEY DO THEIR PRESENTATION. AND THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO COME TO A MEETING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT IT TO BE JUST AT OUR MEETING OR IF YOU LIKE TO HAVE A PRATT TIME THEY COULD COME.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: I THINK A SECOND TIME WOULD BE IN ORDER. BECAUSE THAT COULD GET QUITE

LENGTHY. >> AND DO YOU WANT TO TRY TO SCHEDULE IT IN EVENING? ON YOUR CALENDARS WHERE YOU'RE ALL AVAILABLE? I MEAN, I DON'T MIND HELPING COORDINATE.

>> COMMISSIONER CELLA: WE CAN COORDINATE THAT OFF-LINE BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE IN THE EVENING. I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD NOT FORGET THE FOLKS FROM SOLITE SLASH STONERIDGE AND INVITE THEM TO COME AND TELL US WHAT HE'S DOING THERE. ONE THING I DID DISCOVER WHEN I SAW THIS ON THE AGENDA. I DID CHECK TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT STONERIDGE WAS ACTUALLY A FLORIDA CORPORATION. WHEN THEY CAME IN LAST TIME NAY WERE NOT BECAUSE THEY LET THEIR CORPORATION LAPSE. THEY ARE NOW AGAIN A FULLY IN THE GOOD GRACES OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND A RECOGNIZED CORPORATION. IF NOTHING ELSE WE'VE FORCED THEM TO PAY THE $450 AS A FOREIGN CORPORATION TO GET BACK INTO GOOD STEAD [LAUGHTER]

YOU GOT TO TAKE LITTLE VICTORIES. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: WE DON'T

HAVE ANY LEVERAGE OVER THE DEP RIGHT? >> NO. AND THEY'RE THE SOLE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO IF EXT THIS IF THERE'S A FIX RIGHT? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN DO.

>> OR THE EPA. I MEAN, THE EPA DELEGATE -- I DON'T KNOW IF DELEGATED IS THE RIGHT WORD BUT

IS REQUIRING THE FDEP TO OVERSEE IT. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: COULD WE PASS A RESOLUTION SAYING WE WON'T APPROVE ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY UNTIL IT'S CLEANED UP TO RESIDENTIAL STANDARD? EVEN IF IT'S NOT A BINDING LIKE ORDINANCE IT JUST A POSITION STATEMENT OF THE BOARD OR SOMETHING.

>> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: THERE'S A SPECIAL ZONING CATEGORY FOR THIS ISN'T THERE.

>> COMMISSIONER CELLA: WE PUT IT IN THE SPECIAL CATEGORY. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: SO IT'S

KIND OF AN ANIMAL TO ITSELF. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: WHAT IS THE ZONING CATEGORY.

>> COMMISSIONER CELLA: SOLITE. >> AND IT REQUIRES AN ORDER FOR THE DENSITY RATE YOU HAVE TO

CLEAN UP IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EPA ORDER. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: IT'S

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ABOUT AS LOCKED UP AS WE CAN GET IT. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: YEAH.

>> COMMISSIONER CELLA: BUT I THINK IF WE WANT TO SEE ANY CHANGES ON THE STATE LEVEL THEN

MAYBE IT'S AT CLAY DAY WHERE WE CLEAN -- >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: LET'S PUT

IT ON THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. >> COMMISSIONER ROLLINS: WE ALL GREW RESIDENTIAL IS WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE CLEANED UP AS NOT COMMERCIAL?

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: COMMERCIAL IS JUST A GOOD WAY FOR THEM TO GET OUT OF THERE. I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE ANY SERIOUS INTENT OF DEVELOPING THAT COMMERCIALLY. THAT WAS JUST I THINK A

MANEUVER. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: THEY'RE JUST STALLING US. THAT'S THE

GAME. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: COURTNEY ARE YOU GOING TO PURSUE THE MEETING TIME WITH DEP? WHO IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE FIRST ITEM THAT DIANE MENTIONED ABOUT THE

VIEW OF THE LAMP. >> SHARICE WILL GET WITH THEM. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: OKAY. ALL

RIGHT. MIKE? >> COMMISSIONER CELLA: I'M GOOD. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA: I HAD AN HOA MEETING WITH FOX MEADOW PEOPLE ON THE 90 ACRE REZONING AND INCREASE OF DENSITY. THE PLACE WAS PACKED OUT. WE HAD OVER 200 PEOPLE THERE. UNCLE ED CAME AND HELPED ME TURN OFF THE TAR AND FEATHER MACHINE [LAUGHTER] NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, THEY'RE NOT EXCITED ABOUT SEEING THE DENSITY GO UP IN THAT AREA. THE PROBLEM IS, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT ONE HOUSE ON FIVE ACRES AND TEN ACRES UP HERE UP NORTH THEY'VE GOT 40 FOOT LOT LINES. AND THESE FOLKS WANT TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THE 40 FOOT LOT LINE. AND THEY ARE DEFINITELY AGAINST THAT. I'M NOT SURE IF WE CAN SWEETEN THE POT UP WITH HOOKING THE ROAD UP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BUT AT LEAST FOR NOW MY MIND'S MADE UP ON THAT ISSUE. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

>> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: OKAY. COUNTY MANAGER I MAY HAVE OVERLOOKED YOU?

>> I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER. >> CHAIRMAN HENDRY: OKAY. WELL I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IN CLOSING MAY GOD SAVE OUR R

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.