THE EVENT WILL BEGIN SOON. CAPTION WRITER IS PRESENT. [00:00:03] THE EVENT WILL BEGIN SOON. CAPTION WRITER IS PRESENT. THE EVENT WILL BEGIN SOON. CAPTION WRITER IS PRESENT. [CALL TO ORDER] >> OKAY, CALL TO ORDER, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> ALL RIGHT. [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] LOOKING THROUGH THE AGENDA, FIRST THING WE HAVE TO IS APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM LAST MONUMENT ANY DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS, IF NOT, NEED A MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND. UNANIMOUS, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. READY FOR YOU. AND THEN, LOOKING AT WHAT WE GOT [1. 1. Consideration of FFCLP 26-0005 to the Eligibility Pool (This item was listed on the August LCC agenda with the incorrect parcel numbers. The parcel numbers have been corrected and it will be voted on again at this meeting.)Parcel # 28-04-23-000292-000-00 and 21-04-23-000155-000-00 (45 acres)The property preserves unharvested timber, wildlife habitat, and green space in an area that has been heavily logged and has undergone rapid development. The property borders Mill Branch, a tributary of Black Creek, which is an environmentally and economically significant component of the St. Johns River watershed. Mill Branch is an unprotected corridor connecting Jennings State Forest to the Bradford Wildlife Management Area. The property is located within the Florida Forever and Ocala-to-Osceola (O2O) priority conservation areas.] WE COULD GO PRETTY QUICK TODAY NO PUBLIC IN THE ROOM, SO FIRST REVOTE ON THE NOMINATION OF THE BLANCHARD PROPERTY, HAD THE WRONG PARCEL NUMBER SO RENOMINATING IT AGAIN UNDER THE CORRECT PARCEL NUMBER. ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT NOMINATION? IF NOT, MOTION. OKAY, ALL IN FAVOR. NOT IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. OH, HE CAN'T VOTE ON THE BLANCHARD? >> OH, HE CAN. SORRY. SO WE PROCEED WITH THE [1. 1. Consideration of FFCLP 26-0005 to the Priority PoolParcel # 28-04-23-000292-000-00 and 21-04-23-000155-000-00 (45 acres)The property preserves unharvested timber, wildlife habitat, and green space in an area that has been heavily logged and has undergone rapid development. The property borders Mill Branch, a tributary of Black Creek, which is an environmentally and economically significant component of the St. Johns River watershed. Mill Branch is an unprotected corridor connecting Jennings State Forest to the Bradford Wildlife Management Area. The property is located within the Florida Forever and Ocala-to-Osceola (O2O) priority conservation areas.] NOMINATION UNANIMOUS. EVERYONE VOTED FOR IT. OKAY. SO NOW WE NEED TO TAKE UP THE ELIGIBILITY POOL LOOKING AT THE SCORES, THERE'S NOBODY HERE TO SPEAK FOR IT SO I'LL HAND IT OVER TO YOU TO WALK THROUGH THE SCORES WITH US. >> WELL, I DIDN'T GET EVERYBODY'S SCORES SO IF THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A COUPLE MINUTES TO DO, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT. >> WE WILL DOTY IS GOING THROUGH THAT, ANY DISCUSSION YOU WANT TO ENTER INTO? THIS IS A FULL FEE, 45 ACRES, WITH THE HOUSE NOT INCLUDED BUT IN THE CENTER. IT'S ON BLACK CREEK, TRIBUTARY. SO IT HAS BLACK CREEK CRAWFISH, WHICH IS INTERESTING. >> WE THINK WE WOULD USE THIS PROPERTY FOR PARKS, TRAILS THINGS LIKE THAT, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING WE CONSIDER? >> IT CERTAINLY HAS GOOD ACCESS BEING RIGHT THERE ON 218. I DON'T SEE WHY NOT. >> ALSO, I THINK IT'S NICE THEY PAID FOR A BUNCH OF MOWING, THEY'VE DONE QUITE A BIT OF MOWING SERVIC WITH FLORIDA FOREST SERVICE SO THAT MIGHT REDUCE FUTURE COST OF MANAGEMENT. I'M NOT SURE THEY'D BURN IT. IT'S NOT IN THE PACKET BUT A BUNCH SHOWED THE MOWING ON THE PREVIOUS PACKET. THAT TRACT IS AN OLD TRACT THAT'S BEEN THERE YEARS AND YEARS. IT'S GOT HISTORICAL VALUE, A LITTLE STORE ACROSS THE ROAD, PETE LONG DIED RAN THAT STORE BUT WAITS A STERN OF THE COMMUNITY OUT THERE, ALL THE UPS AND FEDEX AND EVERYBODY DELIVERED STUFF THERE AND PEOPLE FROM ALL AROUND WOULD COME GET THEIR STUFF AT THAT STORE BUT THAT TRACT OF TIMBER HAS BEEN STANDING THERE LONG AS CAN I REMEMBER. >> YOU MENTIONED A HEADSTONE. IS IT A FULL CEMETERY OR JUST A HEADSTONE. >> I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT A FULL CEMETERY BEING OUT THERE. >> I'LL SAY, I NOTICE IN THAT APPLICATION THEY MENTION VERNAL POOLS OR LIKE PONDS, I JOE JENNINGS HAS SOME STATE THREATENED SPECIES AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYWHERE YOU KNOW, ON [00:05:03] THE KIND OF MINING ROOMS AT KEY MORSE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN SURVEYED OR ANYTHING, BUT YEAH, I DON'T KNOW HOW LARGE OF OPEN SPACE THEY NEED, BUT I THOUGHT PRESENCE OF VERNAL POOLS IS SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY LACKS PROTECTION, THEY'RE NOT PROTECTED UNDER STATE OR FEDERAL WET LAND USE. SO, THAT AND BEING SURROUNDED BY UPLANDS IT'S LIKE JUST AN EPHEMERAL POND. >> WHEN YOU SAY VERNAL PEEL DO YOU MEAN [INAUDIBLE] ? >> THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICATION SAID BUT I HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANT. >> I'M A SLOW READER. >> DON'T DISTRACT HIM NOW. >> THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PICTURES ON THIS THING. >>? THE APPLICATION PACKET THEY HAD A REALLY NICE HAND DRAWN MAP AND THAT WHOLE CENTER THIRD WAS ALONG LONG LEAF. SO THAT'S OLD LONG LEAF THEN. NOT A DAY OVER 35. >> OVER 35 YEARS IT'S BEEN THERE. >> IT TAKES TIME. >> IT DOES, IT DOES. >> I GUESS MARK I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU AND SO, THEY'RE SAYING IT'S HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR ABOUT 40 ACRES. SO THAT'S $10,000 AN ACRE FULL FEET. DOESN'T THAT SEEM HIGH FOR WHAT IT IS? >> MAYBE A LITTLE BUT THAT'S REALLY NOT. >> IT'S ON 218. >> DEPENDS ON HOW THE LAND IS LAID OUT BUT PRIME REAL ESTATE THAT AREA THAT'S NOT UNREAL TO ASK THAT. THEY COULD SELL THAT TO A DEVELOPER FOR THAT MAYBE MORE. SEEMS HIGH AND DRY IF IT'S GOT SAMABLE TIMBER SO THAT COULD GO FOR MORE THAN THAT OPEN MARKET. >> I THOUGHT THEY NEED IT FOR PUBLIC TRAILS TO, FOR PUBLIC TRAILS. THAT'S A GOOD AREA THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED THE NEXT TEN YEARS. THEY'RE RUNNING LAND OVER QUICKLY.. [00:10:53] >> YOU HAVE A TOTAL SCORE OF 6.44. I'M GOING TO SAY YOU HAVE EVERYTHING FROM LIKE 4-SOMETHING TO 7-SOMETHING WHEN WE DID LIKE THAT FIRST BIG BATCH. SO, THAT'S KIND OF PROBABLY A MIDRANGE SCORE. >> ALL RIGHT, SCORES ARE UP. OPEN THE FLOOR TO DISCUSSION. ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. >> [INDISTINCT] >> WAS THAT A MOTION? >> YEAH. >> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION TO PUT THIS FORWARD. INTO THE PRIORITY POOL WITH A SCORE OF 6 AND A HALFISH. >> WELL, I WAS, YEAH. I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WERE PUTTING IT FORWARD. I WAS GOING TO SAY I LIKE THIS ONE TOO. IT HAS GOOD WILDLIFE HAS BEEN AT THAT TIME BEING IN THE WILDLIFE CORRIDOR UP LANDS AND ROAD FRONTAGE I THINK TOGETHER A LOT OF THINGS GOING FOR IT SO I AGREE WITH MOVING FORWARD. >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE A SECOND. >> SECOND. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> I JUST DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BUY ANYTHING IN FEE. >> I THINK I UNDERSTAND YOUR OPINION, BUT ARE YOUR SCORES LIKE TRUTHFUL TO LIKE WHAT IT'S ASKING? BECAUSE DOESN'T ONE MEAN IT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO VALUE OR IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT QUALITY AT ALL? SO, IF IT'S -- I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND. >> I THINK OUR MATRIX IS WHAT IT IS. I JUST DON'T -- [LAUGHTER]. >> I DON'T AGREE WITH BUYING ANYTHING IN FEE BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE TO TAKE MONEY AWAY WE CAN ALLOCATE FOR MORE ACQUISITIONS TO MAINTAIN IT. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE SOME MONEY AWAY AND PAY SOMEBODY TO DO WHATEVER HAS TO BE DONE OUT THERE, AT YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T LIKE IT. >> I DON'T DISAGREE NORMALLY ON THAT ASPECT, YOU KNOW. WHEN YOU GET ESPECIALLY THE OUTLIERS THE FAR LANDS THAT WE HAVE LOOKED OUT FOR CONSERVATION EASEMENT BUT WHEN YOU GET PRIME REAL ESTATE OFF 218 UP AND COMING DEVELOPMENT WITH NORMANDIE DEVELOPED AS IT IS THEY'RE GOING TO CREEP DOWN 218 IN FUTURE AND HE DOESN'T WANT THE OPTION TO PUT IT IN CONSERVATION, I THINK THE COUNTY BEING ABLE TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY LIKE THAT IS PRIME REAL ESTATE WE COULD USE FOR PUBLIC USE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THAT AREA BECOMES DEVELOPED WHICH IT'S ALREADY DOING, IF YOU'VE GONE TO NORMANDIE IN THE PAST IT'S INSANE SO SOMETHING ON 218 AT THIS PRICE IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONSIDER EVEN IF MAINTENANCE WOULD DRAW MONEY AWAY FROM SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO I DON'T THINK THIS IS ONE THAT'S BAD. >> THAT'S MY STANCE. >> RIGHT. >> I CAN COMPLETELY AGREE. [00:15:08] >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. THEN WE HAVE A MOTION TO VOTE ON. THE MOTION IS PUT IT FORWARD IN THE PRIORITY POOL WITH THE SCORE. SO I GUESS, LET'S DO HANDS. WE KNOW IT WON'T BE UNANIMOUS. >> OKAY, THIS IS FOR AYES. >> AND TO CLARIFY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO -- WELL, DID THE APPLICANT SAY THEY WERE ONLY INTERESTED IN FEE? >> ONLY CHECKED FEE, YEAH. >> OKAY. >> SO, IT'S 5-3 IT PASSES. YOU NEED TO KNOW INDIVIDUALLY WHO VOTED FOR THE RECORD? >> NO. I GOT THAT ACTUALLY BUT NO WE DON'T NEED TO TRACK EXACTLY WHO VOTED HOW. >> WHICH TAKES US THROUGH WHAT WE HAD TO DO. ANYTHING ELSE FOR US? >> JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, A SHORT LITTLE UPDATE, WE HAVE THREE OTHER PROPERTIES LEFT FROM THE INITIAL NOMINATION PERIOD, I REACHED OUT THROUGH MAIL BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE EMAIL ADDRESSES FROM ALL OF THEM. I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM TWO BUT I DID HEAR BACK FROM ONE THAT'S DOWN IN KEYSTONE AND THERE ARE 8 HEIRS THAT OWN A PIECE OF THIS. BUT THEY SEEM AT LEAST FROM THE TWO I I'VE TALKED TO SO FAR TO BE INTERESTED IN WANTING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE SELL IT TO THE COUNTY. SO WE ARE STILL PURSUING THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THOUGH WE CAN GET ALL OF THEM OR AT LEAST A MAJORITY TO SIGN OFF AND LET US BRING THAT TO YOU. I KNOW WE'VE SAID WE DON'T WANT TO GO FORWARD WITHOUT HAVING ALL OF THEIR SIGNATURES. I THINK WE MAY BRING IT TO YOU TO MAKE A DECISION WITH LIKE A MAJORITY OF THE SIGNATURES AND THEN WE WILL HAVE TO SEE. BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO TRY TO GET ALL OF THEM BEFORE IT COMES TO YOU. WE WON'T HAVE A MEETING FOR NOVEMBER BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE WHILE, SO I'LL LEAVE DECEMBER'S MEETING ON THE CALENDAR IN CASE WE ARE ABLE TO GET ALL OF THEM TO SEND US A SIGNATURE IN TIME TO DO THAT. BUT I WOULD WAIT, IF WE HAVEN'T GOT SIGNATURES BY THE MIDDLE OF NOVEMBER, THEN WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CANCEL DECEMBER'S MEETING AND I'LL EMAIL YOU AND LET YOU KNOW BUT I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW NOW I'LL CANCEL NOVEMBER'S MEETING AND DECEMBER YOU'LL HEAR FROM ME IN THE MIDDLE OF NOVEMBER ON THAT ONE. WE WILL BE OPENING THE FIRST NOMINATION PERIOD FOR NEXT YEAR IN THE SPRING PROBABLY WE WILL DO LIKE THE SAME JANUARY-FEBRUARY LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR. AND, WE WILL START PUTTING THAT OUT ON THE WEB SITE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS OR SO, WANT TO GET IT UP, YOU KNOW BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS GET IN. SO PEOPLE CAN THINK ABOUT IT AT LEAST. AND THAT'S REALLY IT FOR THE MOMENT. YES, MA'AM. OH. >> TURN ON THE MICROPHONE. >> YOU DON'T NEED A MIC FOR ME JOSH. [INDISTINCT]. >> THE ONES THAT WE HAVE ALREADY PUT IN THE PRIORITY POOL, THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT SEE WHAT THEIR CALENDAR LIKES WHETHER IT WOULD BE JANUARY OR FEBRUARY BUT YES WE WOULD BE TAKING THE ONES YOU'VE ALREADY VOTED TO PUT IN THE PRIORITY POOL TO THEM. YES, SOMEWHERE IN THERE. YES. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> YES, SIR. >> DO WE HAVE MONEY THAT'S AVAILABLE TO BE SPENT ON THESE TRACKS AT THIS POINT IN TIME? >> WE HAVE A LITTLE LESS THAN FOUR MILLION. >> THAT'S AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW? >> YES. >> AND MA'AM, THIS THING WAS VOTED TWO YEARS AGO FOR THIS TO HAPPEN, COME NOVEMBER, IT WILL BE TWO YEARS AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THINGS OFF FOR TWO MONTHS, NOT EVEN HAVING A MEETING. CORRECT? >> RIGHT. >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND, IF I'M A LAND OWNER OUT THERE I'M NOT GOING TO BE REAL HAPPY ABOUT THAT JUST TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. I'M LIKE KIND OF LIKE A BUDDY OF THERE BUT IT'S JUST MY OPINION. SEEMS LIKES NEED WE NEED TO BE -- EVERY DAY LAND GOES UP. EVERY DAY PEOPLE ARE SELLING, THEY'RE NOT WAITING AND WE ARE PUTTING OUR MEETINGS OFF. [00:20:01] I DON'T SEE WHERE THAT'S GOOD FOR US. >> WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ITEMS TO TAKE FORWARD AT THIS TIME. I DON'T HAVE ANY PARCELS. SO WERE YOU THINKING IT SHOULD BE ON A KIND AFTER ROLLING -- >> WE NEED TO BE ON SOMETHING. WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ACCOMPLISH I GUESS TO GET ONE BEFORE THE COUNTY COMMISSION TO EVEN SEE HOW IT WORKS? >> WELL, YOU'VE DONE THAT THROUGH NOMINATING THEM ALL TO THE PRIORITY POOL. AND WE HAVEN'T TAKEN THOSE FORWARD AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE WE HAD KIND OF ADVICE REALLY FROM MEMBER BUSH WAS HERE ABOUT TWO MONTHS HERE FROM NORTHERN LAND TRUST SAYING IT WAS ADVANTAGEOUS TO TAKE THEM? A PATCH NOT ONE AT A TIME. AND THEREFORE WE'VE TAKEN THAT TO HEART AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT THIS TIME OF YEAR IS NOT A GOOD TIME TO GO FORWARD WITH REQUESTING PURCHASES WITH JUST BEING NOVEMBER ELECTION SEASON, NEW COMMISSION MEMBERS WHO YOU KNOW ARE NEW TO THEIR SEATS. SO, WE ARE JUST KIND OF LETTING THEM GET ON BOARD AND SETTLE IN JANUARY. >> ALL I'M SAYING IS I JUST DON'T SEE THE URGENCY FOR LACK AFTER BETTER WORD TO IT'S IN OUR COMMITTEE AND IN THE PROCESS IT'S, IF WE HAVE GOT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE COULD BE SPENDING IN MY MIND WE HAD NEED TO MAKE EIGHT LOT MORE AFTER PRIORITY THAN IT IS NOW. JUST MY OPINION. >> OKAY. >> YES, SIR. >> I ALSO PUT IT OUT THERE, I THINK -- THERE'S A LIMITED NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR. ACTUALLY, VERY LIMITED. I THINK PROBABLY THE OPEN ENROLLMENT THING, WORKS FOR SOME THINGS AND HAVING PEOPLE COME FORWARD AND WE MAY HAVE TO ACTIVELY PURSUE AND SEND A MAILING OUT SAYING HERE'S A PROGRAM, YOU OWN LAND, INTERESTED. THAT MAY HELP US GET MORE APPLICANTS TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. >> HOW WOULD YOU DETERMINE WHO TO SEND IT TO, THE WHOLE COUNTY? >> IT'S VERY LIMITED. THERE AREN'T THAT MANY PEOPLE THAT OWN 20 ACRES. >> WEEKLY FOR WHAT? >> PEOPLE WANTING TO BUY MY LAND. >> OKAY. >> I GOT ONE FROM A MITIGATION GUY THAT WANTED TO PURCHASE IT FOR MITIGATION. I MEAN, IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY GET YOUR NUMBER, BUT THEY GET YOUR NUMBER AND THEY'RE RELENTLESS ABOUT CALLING YOU. >> I GET PEOPLE TO BUY MY LAND, WANT TO BUY MY LAND TOO ALL THE TIME BUT HOW WOULD WE KNOW EXACTLY WHO TO SEND THAT WE THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT BEING PREJUDICED? >> WELL, JUST OPEN LAND. >> I THINK THERE'S LIKE A THOUSAND LAND OWNERS THIS APPLIES TO. MAYBE. >> SO IF WE SEND IT OUT TO HALF OF THE PEOPLE ON SAY TEN ACRES OR MORE OR ESSENTIALLY WHAT I THINK I WOULD WANT TO TARGET YOU HAVE TO SEND IT TO EVERYBODY THAT OWNS 10 ACRES OR MORE NOT JUST 20 OF THEM BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO BE FAIR TO THE ENTIRE PUBLIC, SO I CONTINUE KNOW HOW MANY LAND OWNERS THAT WOULD BE, PROBABLY A DECENT AMOUNT IN CLAY COUNTY. >> I BELT IT WOULD SHOCK YOU. >> I'M CURIOUS AND NOW YOU GOT ME CURIOUS. >> I'D SAY A THOUSAND FOR ALL OF THEM, FOR ANYBODY WHO OWNS OVER TEN ACRES. >> OKAY. >> THERE'S ONE MORE CRITERION THAT YOU SAID IS OUT THERE TOO. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WANT THIS PROGRAM AND THEY WANT TO DO IT BECAUSE THEY WANT THEIR LAND PRESERVED AND THEY WANT A KIT, AND THEY'RE WILL, MOST OF THEM, AND I MEAN MOST OF THEM ARE WILLING TO WAIT BUT THERE ARE SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OLDER. THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING. WE ARE LOSING OPPORTUNITIES WITH THESE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO DO THIS, AND MORE THAN LIKELY IN MY OPINION, AGAIN THAT'S ALL IT IS, THEY WOULD BE WILL TO TAKE LESS MONEY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN THAT IT BECOMES PRESERVED FOR LACK AFTER BETTER [00:25:01] WAY TO PUT IT THAN FOR IT TO BECOME REAL ESTATE AND BE HOUSES ON TOP OF HOUSES. BUT THEN THERE ARE A WHOLE MULTITUDE OF THESE LAND OWNERS THAT THEY WANT THE MONEY. SO, WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET IN THOSE GAMES. WE HAVE GOT TO FIND THESE OTHER AREAS IF WE CONTRIBUTION AND EVERY DAY THAT WE WAIT WE ARE LOSING SOME OF THEM ALL THE TIME. AGAIN, IT'S JUST MY OPINION. >> HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE THE FIRST DRAFT THE 3 ORIGINAL ONES THAT WE DID? HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE WE AGREED OR APPROVED THEM OR WHATEVER TO GO INTO THE POOL? >> I WANT TO SAY THAT WAS THE JULY MEETING, JUNE POSSIBLY. NO, WE DID MAY. THE JULY. >> JUST SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME TO NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF INFORMATION GO-AHEAD. >> WHAT IT BEEN ADVANTAGEOUS TO REACH OUT TO THOSE LAND OWNERS LNT LET THEM KNOW YOU'VE BEEN CONSIDERED FOR THE NEXT LEVEL OF POOL? CAN WE DO THAT? >> WELL, THEY'VE ALL BEEN HERE AT THOSE MEETINGS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TONIGHT. >> OKAY. SO THEY ALL KNOW. >> THEY'RE ALL AWARE. >> THE ONES DOING IT UNDERSTAND THE BUREAUCRACY IS HAPPENING SO WE HAVE TO GET TO THESE POINTS SO THEY'RE UNLESSING IT HAS TO WAIT, BUT YOU'RE SAYING WASN'T WE GET THROUGH THIS WE HAVE TO GET TO THE NEXT BATCH BUT YOU'RE SAYING GET TO THOSE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER SO MAYBE WE CONSIDER FINDING ANOTHER BATCH AND HELP PROMOTE THIS QUICKER SO WITH JANUARY HITS THEY'RE READY TO GO. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I'LL HELP YOU OUT. I'M SEARCH IT UP AND FIND IT AND GIVE YOU THE PARCELS, A WHOLE LIST OF THEM. >> LET NEED LOOK INTO, WE WILL FIND OUT HOW WE CAN. YEAH. I HAD A THOUGHT JUST DROPPED AWAY. OH WELL. >> SO QUESTION FOR YOU THEN. SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY ON EITHER SIDE OF THE DEBATE WANTS TO HURRY THINGS FORWARD, AND I UNDERSTAND RAMESH HAS BACKGROUND IN THIS WE KP RECOMMEND TRYING TO SEN B SEND SOME OF THEM UP BEFORE WE GET THE PACKAGE TOGETHER. I UNDERSTAND NOVEMBER IS IFFY BECAUSE OF THE AMENDMENT VOTE BUT COULD WE VOTE TO GET THE ORIGINAL THREE UP BY NOVEMBER IF IT FITS THEIR SCHEDULE? OR IS THAT NOT IN OUR POWER? >> THAT'S THE FIRST MEETING REALLY THAT THE, WELL TECHNICALLY THE SECOND MEETING OF NEW COMMISSIONERS. I DON'T THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA. BECAUSE, THEY'RE OVERED WHEN THEY COME IN AND WE ARE LOOKING AT THE CHRISTMAS RUSH. I DO FEEL LIKE JANUARY IS BETTER. PEOPLE COME BACK FROM THE HOLIDAYS, IN A MORE POSITIVE, LET'S START THINGS MOOD, MOVE THINGS FORWARD BUT YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO VOTE, WE WILL, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TAKE THAT VOTE AND YOU KNOW, TAKE IT TO THE REST OF STAFF AND SEE WHERE WE ARE AT. >> JUST ASKING, GENERAL DISCUSSION. >> YES. >> ONE MORE COMMENT. AREN'T WE ONLY GOING TO GAIN ONE MOVE COUNTY COMMISSIONER THIS TIME COME SOMETHING. >> I'M NOT POSITIVE. I DON'T KNOW. IS IT JUST ONE? >> IT IS JUST ONE. THE REST DIDN'T HAVE IT UPON IT, SO THERE'S ONLY ONE. >> OKAY. [LAUGHTER] >> AS MUCH AS I AGREE WITH YOU AND I THINK IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF WE COULD MARKET THOSE PEOPLE WE THOUGHT HAD YOU KNOW THE PRIME PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE WANTED TO PUT IN CONSERVATION FOR THE COUNTY, I THINK THAT FOR ME, I'M A PRIVATE CITIZEN I'M USED TO SAY MOVE RIGHT ALONG ON MY TIMETABLE BUT WE ARE NOT PRIVATE CITIZENS ON THIS BOARD. WE ARE REPRESENTING THE COUNTY, AND GOVERNMENT WORKS MUCH MORE SLOWLY AND EVEN IF IT IS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY KMEERPS CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG THEN WE STILL HAVE THE FOR A PRICE AND GET SURVEYS DONE SO IT'S STILL GOING TO BE A WHILE EVEN IF WE DON'T LIKE IT. IT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE BEAST. [00:30:01] SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST WHAT WE WE SIGNED UP FOR. >> ANY MORE DISCUSS * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.