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I AM CALLING TO ORDER AT THE CLAY COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSION
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
MEETING FOR SEPTEMBER 24TH READ THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FRO THAT LAST MEETING WHERE I WAS ABSENT, SO TALK AMONGST YOURSELVES.>> I WILL MOTION FOR APPROVAL. >> DO I HAVE A SECOND?
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND AS I CAN TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE AUGUST 27TH MEETING. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NOW WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE ARE ALL LEGAL DOES ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK FROM THE PUBLIC? NOT SEEN ANYBODY, I WILL OPEN I
[1. A request to consider a reduction in the AR front setbacks from 30’ to 17.8’.]
AND CLOSE SUCH. NOW WE GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR OUR ONE CASE TONIGHT WHICH IS VOA'S WHAT IS THE NUMBER? 26 TASH 0013. WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVERTO STAFF. >> THE APPLICANT FOR THIS ITEM IS LAURIE BERGER AND SHE IS HER WITH US TONIGHT BY THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY IS 2300 CARNATION AVENUE BEAR THE REQUEST IS TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED FRONT YARD SETBACK FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AND THE AR ZONING DISTRICT FROM 30 FEET TO 13 FEET. THIS IS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF THE SITE YOU CAN SEE IT'S AT THE CORNER OF CORONATION AND THE OTHER ROAD THERE. SOME BACKGROUND ON THIS, THE PARCEL IS A CORNER LOT. THE PARTIAL IS APPROXIMATELY TO HUNDRED 60 FEET WIDE. NAZ TO APPROXIMATELY 5 FEET.
THE REDUCTION OF THE FRONT SETBACK BY ALONG THE TO PLACE A 30 BY 30-FOOT ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WILL SERVE AS GARAGE ACCORDING TO THE APPLICATION PE THE APPLICATION CHOSEN FOR THE STRUCTURE WOULD BE BEHIND THE EXISTING ROW OF PINE TREES THAT ARE LOOTED ALONG THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ON. YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION OF THE TREES. STAFF HAS TO EVALUATE THE APPLICATION BASED ON THE CONDITIONS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CODE FOR VARIANCE, SO I WILL GO THROUGH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES EXIST WHICH ARE PECULIAR TO THE LAND STRUCTURE IN BUILDING INVOLVED WHICH ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO OTHER THAN STRUCTURES IN THE SAME DOMAIN DISTRICT.
RESIDENCES LOCATED IN THE PARCE WHERE THE PARCEL IS NARROWER, THEY WISH TO LOCATE AN ACCESSOR STRUCTURE.
THERE ARE NO OTHER SPECIAL CONDITIONS OR CIRCUMSTANCES.
THE NEXT CONDITION IS THAT THE ZONING CONDITIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES DO NOT RESULT FRO THE ACTIONS OF THE APPLICANT, SPECIAL CONDITIONS ARE NOT A RESULT OF AN ACTION BY THE APPLICANT OTHER THAN THE DESIRE TO LOCATE THE STRUCTURE SO IS EASILY ACCESSED FROM THE RESIDENCE.
IT IS DENIED BY THIS ORDINANCE TO OTHER LANDS, BUILDINGS, OR STRUCTURES IN THE SAME ZONING DISTRICT RIGHT STAFF FOUND THAT THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WON'T INFRINGE ON THE APPLICANT IN THE ZONING DISTRICT BY ALLOWING AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE TO ENCROACH INTO THEIR FRONT YARD.
FOR THE NEXT CONDITION THAT INTERPRETATION OF THE ORDINANCE WHICH DENY THE APPLICANT RIGHTS UNDER THE TERMS OF THE ORDINANC WOULD WORK UNNECESSARY AND UNDU HARDSHIP ON THE APPLICANT.
STAFF FOUND THAT THE REQUEST REDUCTION OF THE FRONT SETBACK BY 17 FEET IS NOT THE MINIMUM VARIANCE TO MAKE A BENEFICIAL USE OF THE LANDS FOR A BUILDING THE PARCEL CAN CONTINUE TO BE UTILIZED FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AS ALLOWED UNDER ZUNI DISTRICT WITHOUT THE REQUEST OF THE VARIANCE.
THERE IS AREA AVAILABLE TO LOCATE THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE SO IT DOES NOT ENCROACH INTO TH FRONT SETBACK AND STILL CONVENIENTLY LOCATED NEAR THE RESIDENCE.
THE NEXT CONDITION THAT THE VARIANCE GRANTED AS THE MINIMUM
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VARIANCE THAT WILL MAKE POSSIBL TO BENEFICIAL USE OF THE LAND PAID STAFF FOUND THAT THE VARIANCE WOULD NOT BE IN HARMON WITH THE INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THE CARD.THEY REQUIRE MINIMUM 30-FOOT FRONT SETBACK GREAT EXISTING VEGETATION BETWEEN THE DESIRED EXPRESSION WOULD PROVIDE A VISUAL SCREEN FROM THE THE RIGH OF WAY GRANTING THE VARIANCE SHOULD NOT BE INJURIOUS OR OTHERWISE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC WELFARE. THE FINAL CONDITION, THAT THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WILL B IN HARMONY WITH THE GENERAL INTENT AND PURPOSES OF THESE ORDINANCES THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WOULD NOT BE IN HARMON WITH THE GENERAL INTENT AND PURPOSES OF CODE, THE INTENT OF THE PERIMETER BUFFER REQUIREMENTS AT TWO SEPARATE USES FROM EACH OTHER AND ARE INTENDED TO MINIMIZE THIS IS NO PROVIDING THE CORRECT ANSWER, I'M SORRY. THIS IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE CODE AND THE GENERAL INTENT. THIS IS NOT THE EXACT ANSWER I DON'T BELIEVE. WITH THAT, STAFF WAS RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THAT REQUEST TO REDUCE THE FRONT YAR SETBACK SINCE THE STAFF REPORT WAS SENT TO YOU IN THE AGENDA BESIDES, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A LETTER FROM HER DOCTOR DESCRIBING HER DISABILIT AND THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU FOR YOUR VIEWING. MISS BREWER IS HERE IF YOU HAVE
MISS BREWER, IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE
RECORD PLEASE, MA'AM? >> IT IS LORI A BREWER, AND I A AT 2300 CARNATION AVENUE IN MIDDLEBROOK, FLORIDA.
>> YOU SWEAR EVERYTHING YOU'RE ABOUT TO STATE AS THE TRUTH.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I KNOW I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS UNTIL I GOT THE LETTERS FROM TH DOCTOR AND THEN IT MADE MORE SENSE. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WANTED TO PUT THE BUILDING WHERE YOU DID PAIR THERE ARE BETTER PLACES TO PUT THE BUILDING BUT NOW I REALIZE WHY YOU ARE PLACING IT.
>> MY PROBLEM IS IT'S A LITTLE NORTH OF THE ACTUAL MY HOME, TH RESIDENCE, THE STRUCTURE, I CAN'T PUT IT IN THE BACK BECAUS IT'S NOT REALLY THAT WIDE BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND THE NEXT PROPERTY. AND THE WHOLE THING IS, THE SUBJECT. AND I ALREADY TRIED WALKING OUT THAT WAY WHEN I FIRST MOVED IN LAST JULY, AND I SLIPPED AND FELL. IT IS JUST TOO MUCH FOR ME TO TRY TO TRAVERSE IT. IF I COULD GET IT A LITTLE NORT OF THE STRUCTURE, THEN I WOULD BE ABLE TO JUST GO DOWN A WHEELCHAIR RAMP AND GO RIGHT TO THE GARAGE, A STRAIGHT SHOT.
>> RIGHT. >> I CLEARED A LOT OF THE TREES ALREADY BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH DEAD VEGETATION, SO I HAD THEM ALREADY CLEAR THAT OUT AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE RIGHT ON THE ROAD IN THERE ARE TREES SO THE NEIGHBORS WOULDN'T EVEN
REALLY BE ABLE TO SEE IT. >> ARE YOU PUTTING AN ACTUAL
GARAGE OR IS IT A CARPORT? >> IT'S AN ACTUAL GARAGE.
>> OKAY. >> CAN YOU SHOW THE PLAN AGAIN?
>> I HAVE IT HERE. THAT IS THE REASON AS YOU LOOK AT ONE OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS, RIGH THERE IS PLUMBING,.
>> I HAD LOOKED AT IT BEFORE. RIGHT THERE, THE CORN OVER THE FENCES, THERE IS SOME PLUMBING STICKING OUT OF THE GROUND.
>> DO YOU WANT TO SEE THAT? >> YES.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE CORNER YOU CAN SEE THE FENCE CORNER RIGHT
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THERE, AND THERE IS SOME PLUMBING, THERE ARE SOME PIPES WITH A WELL OR IN IRRIGATION OR WHATEVER.THAT IS THE CORNER OF THAT FENCE , SO THERE'S OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING IN THE GROUND RIGHT THERE.
>> IS IT ALREADY THERE? >> THAT'S THE PRESSURE TANK.
>> THERE IS A SHED THAT SHOWS U THERE ON THE LAYOUT.
>> I HAVE A COPY HERE OF HOW IT WOULD SIT.
>> I DIDN'T SEE IT. >> IS THE BUILDING SHOWN?
>> THIS IS 2019, SO MAYBE IT'S NOT THERE ANYMORE.
>> HIS PICTURE HERE, THE STREET VIEW.
>> THIS IS 2019 SHOWING A BUILDING, IS THAT STILL THERE?
>> HE IS SEEN THAT ON HIS PHONE TO A.
>> WAS 2019. >> THAT WOULD HAVE SAVED ME A
LOT. >> SO APPARENTLY AT ONE TIME
THERE WAS A BUILDING THERE. >> AS WE ARE SEEING HERE.
DID THEY GET A VARIANCE FOR THAT ? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NOT THAT WE KNOW THAT BUILDING IS NOT, SHE WANTS TO GO IN ABOU THE SAME LOCATION, IT LOOKS LIK
IT'S ON BLOCKS ALMOST. >> IT COULD BE.
>> CUT THE GARAGE COWORKER LOOKING AT THE HOUSE COME OUT MIKE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE HOUSE?
ON THE RIGHT, THAT'S WHERE I WANTED ON THE RIGHT WHICH WOULD BE THE NORTHSIDE. I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT IT ON THE
>> I DIDN'T WANT TO BLOCK THE ROAD FOR PEOPLE COMING OUT.
>> I'M TALKING ABOUT FURTHER BACK ON THE PROPERTY LINE LEAK
RIGHT ALONGSIDE THE HOUSE? >> RIGHT NEXT TO THE HOUSE LIKE YOUR ACTUAL HOUSE AND HAVE THE GARAGE RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE IT LOCATED I FRONT OF YOUR FENCE, THERE'S A FENCE THAT COMES OFF THE SIDE O YOUR FENCE AND YOU'VE GOT THE WHOLE 30 BY 30 IN FRONT OF YOUR FENCE.
WHAT HE SAYING IS WE COULD PUT IT BACK.
>> THAT IS WHERE THE MOUND IS THERE.
OKAY. >> IS THERE A SHED ALREADY ON
THE PROPERTY? >> IN THE BACKYARD, THERE IS LITTLE PORTABLE SHED THAT MADE THERE WHEN WE PURCHASED IT.
>> THE REASON I CAN'T PUT IT IN THE BACK IS BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE I WOULD HAVE TO GO TO GET IN AND OUT OF IT.
IS THE MAIN REASON. >> HOLD THE MIC A LITTLE CLOSER WHEN HE'S FLESHING HIS LIGHT, HE'S TELLING US SOMETHING.
>> I'M SORRY. THE REASON I AM HOPING THAT I DON'T HAVE TO PUT IT IN THE BACK , IS SO I DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT THE FRONT, BECAUSE I COULD NOT GO OUT THE BACK DOOR, AND TRAVERSE TO GET TO IT IF IT WER ON THE OTHER SIDE IN THAT BACK BEHIND THE HOUSE. I WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT THE FRON AND GO ALL THE WAY AROUND. INTO THE BACKYARD THAT WAY.
>> LOOKS TO ME AS IF IT WAS ROTATED COUNTERCLOCKWISE 20 DEGREES, IT WOULD STAY WITHIN THE OUT OF THE SETBACK.
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>> I THINK IN THIS PLAN THEY AR TRYING TO KEEP THE FRONT FASCIA YOU'RE RIGHT, IF IT WAS ROTATED YOU COULD PUT IT BEHIND THE LIN AND JUST NOT HAVE THE GARAGE SQUARE WITH THE SIDE OF THE HOME
. >> CAN YOU PULL UP CODE ENFORCEMENT HISTORY ON IT AND SEE IF MAY BE THAT STRUCTURE CAME DOWN THROUGH COKE COMPLAIN IN THE PAST?
>> SEE THAT STRUCTURE THERE, IT'S ON BLOCKS.
SO IT'S MOVABLE. >> I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT CAM
DOWN BECAUSE OF A COMPLAINT. >> THERE ARE SEVERAL GRUDGES ON THAT, AND THE SIDE ROADS OF CARNATION AND THE GARAGE IS, THERE IS A COUPLE OF THEM THAT MAY BE FIVE TO 10 FEET OFF ROAD.
>> THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU AGAIN. >> THAT HAVE BEEN PUT UP SINCE
I'VE BEEN THERE, ONE OF THEM. >> LOOKING, DID YOU SEE THIS.
I'M PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH IT. >> IT LOOKS TO ME, I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT WOULDN'T YOU WAN TO SLIDE THE GARAGE EVEN CLOSER TO YOUR HOUSE RIGHT ALONG THE FENCE?
>> [INDISCERNIBLE] >> YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE WELL A
AT. >> , THAT'S WHAT IT HELPS TO KNOW. IF WE SLID IT DOWN, YOU HAVE PLUMBING THIS WAY, BUT IF YOU TOUCH PUT IT ON THE GATE.
AND IF YOU ROTATED. YOU WANTED TO GET THERE RIGHT
AWAY. >> I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? >> NO.
I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SEEING NOBODY, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION O ASK QUESTIONS?
>> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 26 DASH 2013.
>> THE DOCTOR'S LETTER HELPS THAT THAT'S THE REASON WE ARE
DOING THIS. >> HELPS TREMENDOUSLY.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION, DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> IS AYE.
AGAIN, I AM. I AM PAST HAPPY THAT IT PASSED WITHOUT ME. CONGRATULATIONS, YOUR APPLICATION PAST AND NOW YOU CA MEET WITH STAFF AND THEY CAN GE YOU GOING ON YOUR BUILDING. YOU'RE VERY WELCOME, MA'AM.
OKAY NOW WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT OUR NEXT MEETINGS.
YOU'RE PLANNING HER NEXT FEW GATHERINGS BEFORE THE END OF TH
YEAR. >> WE HAVE AN ITEM FOR OCTOBER IN THE ME HAVE AN ITEM FOR NOVEMBER.
NOVEMBER IS ALWAYS THE FOURTH THURSDAY WHICH IT'S THANKSGIVING , SO TYPICALLY IN THE PAST, THE MEETINGS HAVE BEE SHIFTED TO THE FIRST THURSDAY BECAUSE IT DOESN'T AFFECT IT.
THERE'S NO OTHER MEETING AT THA TIME SLOT.
>> I AM OUT OF TOWN ON THE THIRD .
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>> I WILL BE HERE, AND LESS SOMEBODY CHANGES IT AND MY LIFE.
IN LESS THE DOCTORS DECIDE, I WILL BE HERE SOON THAN.
>> GOT AT LEAST THREE. FOUR, OKAY.
WE WILL IMPORT THAT FIRST THURSDAY IN DECEMBER.
>> BUT WE HAVE ONE IN OCTOBER A WELL.
>> YES. WHEN I WAS TALKING TO KELLY TODAY, SHE HAD SENT US OUT IN E-MAIL EARLIER THAT IT IS ON TH COUNTY WEBSITE, I TOLD HER THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS WERE THAT WE DIDN'T GET THE APPLICATION, SO BECAUSE I SAID I MEAN I SAID BRING ME A COPY AND LEAVE IT HERE FOR ME TO SIGN OF THE MINUTES. I SAID I DIDN'T HAVE THE MINUTE TO SIGN, I DIDN'T HAVE THE APPLICATION ITSELF, IT WAS JUST YOUR COMMENTS. THE FIXER WAS THERE, THE SURVEY WAS THERE. I SAID IT WAS KIND OF A STRANGE
DOWNLOAD. >> SO THERE WAS NO APPLICATION
>> I WILL CHECK INTO THAT. WE HAVE HAD MANY INCIDENTS WHER THERE ARE VARIOUS PEOPLE OUT THERE PULLING INFORMATION OFF O APPLICATIONS ON OUR AGENDAS AND SENDING OUT E-MAILS SOLICITING FUNDS TO BE WIRED TO THEM. WE'VE HAD THIS HAPPEN WITH ALL OF THE AGENDAS AND COMMISSION AGENDAS.
WE BEEN TRYING TO BE VERY CAREFUL OF OUR APPLICANTS.
>> I TOLD KELLY. I SAID I'M GLAD THIS THING FAST BUT THEY WENT A LOT OF TROUBLE TO HAVE A FULL SET OF EARRINGS IN THIS BUILDING. I HATE FOR YOU ALL TOO DO THAT IF THEY DON'T I WOULD TELL THEM DON'T DO THAT UNTIL YOUR
VARIANCE GETS PASSED. >> THOSE LOOK TO BE ABOUT.
NOT THAT YOU CAN GET THEM OFF THE WEB.
>> THEY ARE GENERIC. >> IT'S BECAUSE SHE SAID THERE WAS TWO DOORS IN THE STRUCTURE, NOT JUST ONE BECAUSE I SHOWED HER, I SAID IS THIS THE GARAGE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
SHE SAID THAT RICHARD DEWAR'S S THAT JUST BE VIA STANDARD.
>> I TOLD KELLY, THERE WAS SOMETHING FUNKY ABOUT, I KNOW HOW TYPICALLY WHEN I DOWNLOAD THE STUFF OFF THE WEBSITE, I COULD TELL THERE WE'RE STAFF COMMENTS THAT DIDN'T HAVE A LOT
OF STAFF. >> WE WILL CHECK INTO IT.
THIS PROGRAM IS CHALLENGING, TH NEW PROGRAM, SO WE ARE TRAINED TO WORK WITH IT. WE WILL MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION AT THE NEXT MEETINGS GOING FORWARD.
>> I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO GET ANY EASIER BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH NEWS AI THAT EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT.
I HAVE A SON IN THE SOFTWARE BUSINESS WHERE HE WORKS IN A COMPANY THAT MAKES SOFTWARE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.