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>> TODAY IS JULY 23RD, 2026 THIS IS CLAY COUNTY BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. IT IS 5:00 PM, AND I AM OPENING THE MEETING, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE A QUORUM.
WE HAVE TO HAVE THREE MEMBERS TO HAVE A QUORUM.
OUR THIRD MEMBER THERE'S ONLY THREE OF US THAT ARE GOING TO BE HERE ANYWAY. THE THIRD MEMBER IS ON THE WAY.
HE IS PROBABLY 10 MINUTES AWAY MORE OR LESS, MAY BE LESS.
SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR HAVE ANY DISCUSSION OR ANYTHING UNTIL THAT TIME. MR. REPORTING SECRETARY, IS THAT ACCURATE FOR WHAT YOU NEED? DO WE DARE ASK THE ATTORNEY? YOU KNOW JAMIE. IS A STICKLER FOR WHAT'S THE WORD? HEY, OUR THIRD MEMBER HAS JUST WALKED IN. YOU MUST HAVE BEEN IN HIS LEARJET. I JUST OPENED THE MEETING EXPLAINED THAT WE HAD TO WAIT UNTIL THE THIRD MEMBER GOT HERE.
"INDISTINCT] OKAY, NOW WE ARE GOING FORWARD
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AND WE HAVE OUR THREE MEMBERS SO WE HAVE A QUORUM.AND THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS THE APPROVAL OF OUR MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING WHICH WAS MAY 28TH, 2026.
DO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THOSE MINUTES? OR QUESTIONS? I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE.
PASSES 3-0. THOSE MINUTES ARE APPROVED SECOND IS PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ANYONE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTS TO COMMENT ON ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA OR EVEN NOT ON THE AGENDA. SEEING NOBODY I WILL CLOSE THE
[1. The applicant requests a variance to the Clay County Land Development Code, Article III, Section 3-17(f)(7) to increase the percentage of lot coverage to 40 percent on a parcel in the RB zoning district.]
PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THAT AND COME BACK TO OUR ONE AND ONLY PUBLIC HEARING. AND IT IS FOR B0026-0007.WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO OUR STAFF.
>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. THE APPLICANT IN THIS APPLICATION IS PHILIP. THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY IS 501 IN ORANGE PARK FLORIDA. THE REQUEST COVERAGE TO 40% IN THE ZONING DISTRICT. IT IS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF THE SITE. SOME BACKGROUND, THE PARCEL IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF PERDIDO DRIVE AND IS PART OF THE PETERS CREEK UNIT SUBDIVISION THE PARCEL IS EXISTING HOUSE IS 3196 GROSS SQUARE FEET RESULTING IN A 33% COVERAGE -- WHICH EXCEEDS THE 30% MAXIMUM COVERAGE THAT IT IS ALLOWED WITHIN THE ZONING DISTRICT. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT THE LOT COVERAGE FOR THIS PARCEL BE INCREASED TO 40% SO THAT HE COULD BUILD AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT IS APPROXIMATELY 16 BY 20 FEET, 320 SQUARE FEET. HE WOULD LIKE TO LOCATE THAT IN THE BACKYARD. SO REGARDING CONDITIONS FOR VARIANCE, THERE ARE CONDITIONS THAT STAFF ANALYZES.
AND I WILL PROVIDE YOU BRIEF RESPONSES ON THESE.
THE FIRST IS THAT SPECIAL CONDITIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES EXIST -- WHICH ARE PECULIAR TO THE LAND STRUCTURE OR BUILDING INVOLVED. THIS EXISTING RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE WAS PERMITTED AND CONSTRUCTED IN 1986 WITH A LOT COVERAGE OF 33%. THAT EXCEEDS THE 30% -- WHICH WAS PERMITTED UNDER ORDINANCE 8245 FOR THE RESIDENTIAL DWELLING WAS ISSUED A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AT THAT PRESENT 33% LOT COVERAGE AT THE TIME.
THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES DO NOT RESULT FROM THE ACTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. THAT THE PARCEL IS PRESENTLY DEVELOPED DOES NOT MEET THE LOT COVERAGE STANDARDS FOR THE RB ZONING DISTRICT IS SET FORTH IN THE LAND CODE FOR THE APPLICANT PURCHASED THE PROPERTY WITH THE PRESENT 33% LOT COVERAGE.
THAT IS NOT SOMETHING YOU GENERATED.
THE VARIANCE REQUEST WILL NOT CONFIRM THE APPLICANT ANY SPECIAL PRIVILEGE THAT IS DENIED BY THE ORDINANCE TO OTHER LANDS BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES IN THIS CASE, THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WILL CONFER ON THE APPLICANT A PRIVILEGE DENIED TO OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE RB ZONING THE AVERAGE BY ALLOWING A LOT COVERAGE MORE THAN 30% FOR THE LITERAL INTERPRETATION OF THE PROVISIONS OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD DEPRIVE THE APPLICANT OF RIGHTS COMMONLY ENJOYED BY OTHER PROPERTIES.
IN THIS CASE, STAFF FINDING IS THE LITERAL INTERPRETATION OF
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THE ORDINANCE WOULD NOT DEPRIVE THE APPLICANT OF RIGHTS COMMONLY ENJOYED BY OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS.IN THE RB ZONING DISTRICT FOR ALL PROPERTIES IN THE RB ZONING DISTRICT ARE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF 30% LOT COVERAGE.
THE NEXT ONE IS THAT THE VARIANCE GRANTED IS THE MINIMUM VARIANCE WILL MAKE POSSIBLE THE BENEFICIAL USE OF THE LAND BUILDING OR STRUCTURE. THE PARCEL HAS BEEN AND CONTINUES TO BE UTILIZED FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES PER THE REQUESTED VARIANCE WILL HAVE NO IMPACT ON THE BENEFICIAL USE OF THE PROPERTY.
THE DESIRE FOR A 320 SQUARE FOOT ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WOULD RESULT IN A TOTAL 35.5% LOT COVERAGE. WHILE THE REQUESTED VARIANCE IS TO ALLOW FOR 40% LOT COVERAGE. THE NEXT ONE IS THAT THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WILL BE IN HARMONY WITH THE GENERAL INTENT AND PURPOSES OF THESE ORDINANCES AND THAT THE VARIANCE WOULD NOT BE INJURIOUS TO THE AREA INVOLVED OR OTHERWISE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC WELFARE.
THE STAFF FINDING IS THAT THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WOULD NOT BE IN HARMONY WITH THE GENERAL INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THE CODE. ALL PARCELS IN THE RB ZONING DISTRICT HAVE A MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE OF 30% GRANTING THE VARIANCE SHOULD NOT BE INJURIOUS TO OTHER OTHERWISE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC WELFARE. HOWEVER, THE ADDITIONAL LOT COVERAGE SHOULD INCREASE IMPERVIOUS AREA ON THE PARCEL RESULTING IN ADDITIONAL RUNOFF -- WHICH MAY ADVERSELY IMPACT ADJACENT PARCELS. SO FINAL FINDING BY STAFF IS THAT THE REQUESTED VARIANCE TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE IN THE RB ZONING DISTRICT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE STAFF RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE REQUEST TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE TO 40% FOR THE PARCEL IN RB. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> I HAVE ONE QUESTION I SAW A POLE IN THE PICTURE PICK THAT POLE DOESN'T COUNT AS PART OF THE COVERAGE, DOES IT?
>> NO. [INDISTINCT] FRESH DIRT IN THE BACKYARD THERE WOULDN'T BE ROOM FOR THE STRUCTURE IF THE POLE WAS THERE. POOLS DON'T COUNT UNLESS YOU CONVERT. THEN IT AFFECTS GUESS --
[INDISTINCT] >> IT'S LIKE A POND.
I KNOW. IT COMES -- CALCULATIONY IS, POOL IS INVISIBLE. BUT SO IS A POND.
SPEAKER WOULD I BE CORRECT IN MY ASSUMPTION THAT ADDING THE 320 SQUARE FOOT SHED IS LESS THAN THE POOL.
BASICALLY CORRECT THE IMPERVIOUS WOULD ACTUALLY BE LESS THAN IT WAS BEFORE WITH A POOL? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE
NUMBERS. >> POSSIBLY CORRECT BUT THE POOL DOESN'T COUNT TOWARD THE COVERAGE.
>> I KNOW IT DOESN'T COUNT FOR THE COVERAGE.
I WAS WONDERING IF THIS ACTUALLY GIVES LESS.
>> I THINK THE 33% -- WE TALKED ABOUT.
I THINK THAT 33% IS JUST THE HOME AND DRIVEWAY I DON'T THINK THAT INCLUDES. TYPICALLY, YOU WOULD NOT INCLUDE
A POOL IN THOSE CALCULATIONS. >> I GOT IT CORRECT BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AS FAR AS RUNOFF.
WOULD ACTUALLY BE LESS WITH THE SHED THAN IT WAS WITH THE POOL?
THE POOL REALLY IS NOT. >> RIGHT.
>> THE POOL -- >> YOU DO GET RUNOFF FROM THE COOLING DECK OF A POOL BUT NOT FROM THE WATER SURFACE ITSELF IT
DOESN'T DRAIN INTO YOUR YARD. >> THINKING THAT PART OF IT.
>> IT TYPICALLY -- I'M NOT TRYING TO SWAY THIS.
BUT TYPICALLY, WHEN I'M DESIGNING A SUBDIVISION, YOU TAKE ABOUT 40% OF THE LOT SIZE AS IMPERVIOUS.
YOU'VE GOT A HOME AND A DRIVEWAY AND A PATIO, WHATEVER.
THAT IS JUST -- YOU WILL TAKE THAT.
SO IF IT IS A 10000 SQUARE FOOT LOT YOU WILL SAY THAT'S A 4000 SQUARE FOOT OF IMPERVIOUS. THE REST WILL SOAK IN.
YOU TAKE THAT INTO YOUR POND CALCULATIONS.
YOU MAKE YOUR POND MUCH BIGGER THAN THAT.
TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE. BUT THAT IS JUST TYPICAL.
BUT IF YOU HAVE A 1 ACRE LOT, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO -- UNLESS YOU'VE GOT A 10000 SQUARE FOOT HOME OR SOMETHING LIKE
THAT. >> ONE QUESTION I HAD WAS ONE OF THE PHOTOS SHOWS AN EXISTING EIGHT BY TEN SHED.
I'M SORRY. I NEED YOUR NAME AND YOUR
ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> PURDY TO DRIVE --
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[INDISTINCT] >> DO YOU SWEAR THAT EVERYTHING YOU ARE ABOUT TO STATE IS THE TRUTH SO HELP YOU GOD? IF I CAN'T TRUST YOU, WHO CAN WE TRUST? THE QUESTION OF, -- SOME OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS, WE COULDN'T TELL FOR CAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING ON YOUR PROPERTY? THERE IS A FIVE BY FIVE OR EIGHT BY EIGHT --
>> A TEN BY TEN SHED. THAT WAS THERE WHEN I BOUGHT THE
>> WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING ON DOING WITH THIS BUILDING?
>> WELL, IT'S A PLACE WHERE I CAN WORK ON MOTORCYCLES.
MY GARAGE NO. THAT'S ALL MY STUFF.
EVERY TIME I'M WELDING OR SOMETHING.
[INDISTINCT] BUT I WAS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE TO BE THAT IS THE PLAN.
BUT WHEN I WAS TRYING TO GET AN IDEA OF A SHED OR ANYTHING THAT I COULD WORK OUT OF, I WOULD SAY ANYTHING WITH A ROOF.
NOT EVEN -- [INDISTINCT] BECAUSE I JUST RAN OUT OF COVERAGE.
>> THERE YOU GO. THAT IS CORRECT.
ANYTHING THAT HAD A ROOF. UNFORTUNATELY, YOUR HOME, YOUR HOME WHEN YOU BOUGHT IT, WAS AT 33% COVERAGE IT WAS UNDER A ROOF. SO LIKE YOU SAID, AN OUTDOOR KITCHEN OR ANYTHING WOULD HAVE BUMPED YOU OVER THAT.
THE BIGGER YOU WANT TO MAKE T THIS, THE HARDER IT IS AND MORE DIFFICULT IT IS FOR US TO APPROVE.
BECAUSE, IS IT GOING TO AFFECT THE RESALE OF YOUR HOME THAT YOU HAVE THIS HUGE STRUCTURE IN YOUR BACKYARD? WE DON'T CARE IF. THAT'S NOT OUR PURVIEW.
BUT WE DO LOOK TO SEE WHAT YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE GOING TO THINK AND WHATEVER. BETH, HAS THERE BEEN ANY CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE NEIGHBORS REGARDING THE SIGNS?
OKAY. >> THE OTHER NOTE IS THE HEIGHT IS 15 FEET. THAT SEEMS LIKE A LITTLE BIT
TALL STRUCTURE. >> I HAVE THE NEW PLANS I GOT DOWN TO 10 FEET. I DON'T KNOW, 15 FEET.
I WAS GOING TO USE THAT AS STORAGE.
EVERYTHING IS GOING TO MELT AT THE TOP HERE.
>> YEAH, THE HIGHER YOU GO, THE MORE EXPENSIVE IT GETS, BECAUSE OF HURRICANE ISSUES AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
>> THAT EXISTING SHED, THE POSITION OF THAT, IS IT GOING TO
STAY OR ARE YOU REMOVING IT? >> I'M REMOVING IT.
>> WAS THAT PART OF THE ORIGINAL 30%?
>> NO, SIR. I GUESS WHEN MY HOUSE WAS BUILT IN '85 OR '86, THERE WAS NO ZONING AROUND THE '90S, I WANT TO SAY '92-'96, THE ZONING CAME ABOUT.
SO WHEN THE HOUSE WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT, IT WAS BUILT WITH 3100 SQUARE FOOT. FOR THE ZONING.
THEN THEY ZONED IT IN THE '90S PUCK HOUSE HAPPENED TO BE OVER.
>> BETH, DO YOU STATE IN HERE HOW MANY SQUARE FEET THE LOT IS ALREADY? [INDISTINCT]
>> IT IS 9900 NOW? HE IS TRYING TO BUILD -- 16 BY 20. [INDISTINCT]
>> YOU WERE ASKING FOR THE 40% COVERAGE YOU'RE JUST THINKING OF IN THE FUTURE IF YOU WANT TO HAVE AN OUTDOOR KITCHEN OR
AND I'M LEAVING FOR A DEPLOYMENT AUGUST 17TH.
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THIS IS AN IDEA. BUT I JUST WANTED -- IF I WERE TO BUILD SOMETHING I COULD HAVE IT APPROVED OR WHAT NOT.>> RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT IN THE 15-FOOT EASEMENT ON
THE BACK SIDE OF YOUR PROPERTY? >> IT IS A RETENTION POND.
IT IS WATSON REALTY. THAT PROPERTY OFF OF 17.
ET GOES ALL THE WAY BACK THERE. WHERE MY FENCE IS, THERE IS 15 BY THE FENCE THAT IS AN EASEMENT.
THAT IS WHAT IT SAYS IN THE SURVEY.
>> OKAY, OKAY SO YOU ARE GOING TO PUT THIS SHED UP AGAINST YOUR
FENCE? >> NO, FROM MY HOUSE, IT'S 5 FEET FROM MY HOUSE. IT PUTS IT RIGHT NEXT TO THE
EASEMENT. >> OKAY, OKAY YEAH, OKAY.
BUT THE POND STARTS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF YOUR FENCE, RIGHT?
>> YES IT'S A GOOD I WANT TO SAY 8 FEET FROM THE FENCE.
>> OKAY, OKAY. BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ANYBODY
BEHIND YOU COMPLAINING? >> NO, SIR.
WHY DID YOU FEEL IN THE POOL? >> NOBODY USED IT BECAUSE I WAS TIRED OF GOING TO PINCH A PENNY EVERY WEEKEND BUYING CHLORINE.
I CAME HOME ONE DAY. TALKED TO THE WIFE.
DO YOU CARE IF I GET RID OF THE POOL?
SHE IS, LIKE, NO, I DO NOT FEAR. >> I HAVE BEEN THERE.
I DIDN'T FILL MINE IN, I MOVED. I UNDERSTAND.
>> EVERYBODY SHOULD OWN A POOL AT LEAST ONCE MY WIFE AND I BOTH OWNED POOLS BEFORE WE WERE MARRIED AND WE BOTH SAID NEVER
AGAIN. >> POOLS ARE GREAT UNTIL THEY
ARE NOT. >> WE HAVE KIDS, THEY ARE GREAT THEIR KIDS CAN LEARN TO SWIM AND ALL THAT FEAR ALL I DID WAS CLEAN THE POOL. OKAY.
GUYS, Y'ALL GOT ANY QUESTION? >> I'VE GOT ONE QUESTION FOR THE OUTDOOR KITCHEN, DID YOU DEFINITELY WANT A ROOF OVER
THAT? >> YEAH, WE WERE THINKING ABOUT IT. IS FLORIDA.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE GRILLING IN A HURRICANE.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT. IT'S JUST FUTURE PLANS FOR A LOT OF STUFF I WANT TO START EVERYTHING WHEN I GET BACK NEXT
YEAR IN 2027. >> ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE WRESTLING WITH, IS ACCORDING TO BEST NUMBERS, YOU ARE 33% RIGHT NOW OF COVERAGE. AND SHE SAID, WITH THIS BUILDING 320 SQUARE FOOT ACCESSORY BUILDING, IT WILL PUT YOU AT 35.5% LOT COVERAGE -- WHICH IS NOT TOO MUCH MORE THAN 33% YOU ALREADY HAVE BUT IT'S WAY MORE THAN THE 30% YOU ARE SUPPOSEDLY ALLOWED. I'M GONNA LOOK AT THAT 33%.
THAT WAS BUILT BEFORE THE 30% CRITERIA CAME TO EXIST.
YOU KNOW, IT'S EASIER FOR US TO APPROVE 36 OR 35.5% THEN 40%.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE IF YOU ARE REALLY -- IF YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE 40%, THAT'S OKAY. BUT YOU MIGHT -- YOU'VE GOT A BETTER CHANCE OF HAVING DENIAL FOR 40% THAN YOU DO 35.5%.
WE MIGHT NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHAT YOU ARE BUILDING NOW.
40% OVER 35.5% IS QUITE A BIT MORE PER.
>> THE 4.5% IS A BLANK CHECK. >> IT IS, YEAH, YEAH.
>> I'M MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE 35.5% THAN I AM 40%.
>> BECAUSE IT IS AN UNKNOWN. >> YES, SIR.
>> STAFF, WOULD YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW IF THE ZONING WAS CHANGED LATER, HOW MANY OTHER NEIGHBORS IN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA ARE OVER THE 30%? OR ANY OTHERS THAT WERE NEAR OR CLOSE TO THAT? IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO ME WHETHER EVERY OTHER HOUSE ON IT IS AT 35% OR IF YOU WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE OVER 30%. [INDISTINCT]
>> OFFHAND, I DON'T KNOW. BUT I BELIEVE THERE WAS A VARIANCE ON THE LOT NEXT DOOR. AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT WAS, BUT IT MAY HAVE BEEN SIMILAR. I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU CAN'T SEE TONIGHT. THERE IS A SIZABLE HOUSE.
IT LOOKS LIKE NEXT DOOR. I DON'T KNOW CAN YOU LIVE THERE.
DOES IT LOOK LIKE IT IS SIMILAR TO YOUR SIZE?
IT MIGHT BE BIGGER? >> I WOULD SAY IT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN MINE. BUT SHE DOES HAVE A BIG CAGE ON
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THE BACK OVER HER POOL. >> BETH, I THINK MOST OF THOSE HOUSES JUST BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE 30% CRITERIA WHEN THEY WERE BUILT ON PETER CREEK WAS BUILT IT WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME IF ALL OF THEM ARE OVER 30% I DON'T MEAN BY 31%, 33% OR WHATEVER. IT WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME.
BECAUSE AT THAT TIME WE DIDN'T HAVE THE 30% CRITERIA.
>> YEAH. >> THAT IS THE REASON YOUR GRANDFATHER ENDED WITH 33%. I'M IGNORING THE 33% NUMBER AND SAYING HOW MUCH ABOVE THAT DO YOU WANT TO ADD.
>> AND REALLY, THE EXISTING SHED, IS THERE COMPLIANCE? YOU ARE NOT GETTING CREDIT BACK FOR REMOVING IT.
>> BETH, YOU WERE OUT TALKING TO THE LADY IN THE BACK BY THE TELEVISION WHEN GEORGE ASKED THE QUESTION.
THERE ALREADY IS WHEN HE BOUGHT THE HOME, IT'S ONE OF THOSE SEARS FIVE BY FIVE BUILDINGS OR FIVE BY EIGHT BUILDINGS THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE. MOST PEOPLE DON'T GET A PERMIT FOR THOSE. THEY JUST COME IN AND SET IT UP SO HE IS GOING TO ABANDON THAT. THAT STUFF IS GOING TO GO IN HERE. THAT IS WHAT JORDAN WAS SAYING.
SQUARE FOOT IS FIVE BY EIGHT. >> IS THAT BUILDING ON THE SLAB
OR IS IT PORTABLE? >> IT'S ON PLYWOOD.
IT LOOKS LIKE A TWO BY SIX PLYWOOD.
IT IS ROTTEN. IT HAS BEEN THERE FOR A LONG
TIME. >> WE DON'T PUT THEM ON SLABS.
WE PUT THEM ON CONCRETE STEPS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
OKAY OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP TO SEE IF ANYBODY HERE IN THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO COME AND SPEAK ABOUT THIS.
>> THANK YOU. >> WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT I SEE TWO PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS, OR YOU ARE HERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO ON THURSDAY NIGHT? WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE THAT PORTION OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENT AND COME BACK TO THE BOARD. DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR
QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING? >> JUST A GENERAL QUESTION.
THESE ARE MOTORCYCLES YOU ARE WORKING ON FOR YOUR PERSONAL
I COLLECT THEM AND I DO VINTAGE CB750S AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
>> YOU'VE GOT A DRIVEWAY TO GET BACK THERE?
>> YEAH, I DO. >> WIDER THAN THE SIDEWALK.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO. BUT MORE THAN LIKELY, A
I COLLECT CARS AND PUT CARS BACK BY HENDRIX AFTER I MOVE THE A C SYSTEM. OKAY.
GEORGE, HAVE YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS? BRIAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR STAFF? ANYBODY WANT TO GIVE ME A MOTION?
>> I WISH I REALLY KNEW THAT AREA IF THERE WERE -- AND WHAT SIZE THEY WERE? I WOULD FEEL A LOT BETTER PASSING IT IF HALF THE OTHER HOUSES ON THE STREET ARE AT 40%
OR 45%. >> YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.
I COULD NOT TELL YOU. I'VE BEEN THROUGH THERE A THOUSAND TIMES I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET.
IT'S A NICE SUBDIVISION. THERE ARE NICE HOMES IN THERE I COULD NOT TELL YOU WHAT PERCENTAGES THEY ARE.
I NEVER REALLY CARED. THE HOMES SEEM TO FIT WELL ON THE LOTS. YOU'VE GOT 10-FOOT SIDE YARD SETBACKS ON BOTH SIDES. IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN REACH OUT
AND TOUCH YOUR NEIGHBOR. >> KNOWING THAT AREA, WHAT'S
YOUR THOUGHT ON IT? >> MY GUT WOULD BE TO ASK IF HE COULD GO WITH THE APPROVAL OF A 16 BY 20.
IS 10 FEET TALL INSTEAD OF 15. IF AND WHEN THEY WANT TO DO A KITCHEN, COME BACK TO US I'M KIND OF LIKE GEORGE.
I HATE JUST TO GIVE A BLANK 40%. >> I WOULDN'T APPROVE A 40%.
>> THAT IS WHAT WE DO SOMETIMES. WE WILL ASK THE APPLICANT.
I DON'T THINK YOU ARE GOING TO SEE IT.
YOU'VE GOT THE WOODS AND THE POND ON THAT SIDE.
AND HIS HOUSE BLOCKS THE FRONT. THE PERSON I'M REALLY CONCERNED
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ABOUT IS LOT 12. BUT HE IS THE SETBACK AND ALL THAT. FROM THE AERIAL, THEY'VE GOT AN RV PARK RIGHT THERE IF YOU LOOK AT THE AERIAL YOU CAN SEE.>> ARE THERE ANY COMMUNITY RESTRICTIONS ON THE TYPE OF
BUILDING HE HAS TO PUT IN HERE? >> HOW DOES YOUR HOA -- DO YOU
I TALKED TO MY NEIGHBORS TOO. I'M THINKING ABOUT BUILDING.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? MARY ON THE RIGHT SIDE SAID THAT SHE'S FINE WITH IT. THE GUY NEXT DOOR BUILDS CARS.
HE WAS, LIKE, YEAH, I WILL COME OVER AND BORROW SOME TOOLS.
I DON'T KNOW. BEFORE I PLAN SOMETHING, I WORK IN AVIATION. I PLAN EVERYTHING OUT BEFORE I START PAYING MONEY TO GET THINGS DONE.
I TOOK A FULL CONSENSUS AROUND MY NEIGHBORS.
IF MY NEIGHBOR WASN'T COOL WITH IT, OKAY, I NEED TO THINK OF
SOMETHING ELSE. >> WHAT IS THE DRAINAGE LIKE OUT
THERE ANY DRAINAGE? >> PETER'S CREEK DOES PRETTY
GOOD. >> YOU HAVE SWELLS IN YOUR FRONT
YARD. >> KIND OF LIKE A SEMI DITCH.
17 IS THE HIGH POINT. ALL THAT DRAINS BACK TOWARD THE RIVER. DRAINS TO THE EAST.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED THERE? >> I'VE LIVED THERE SINCE 2019.
>> THE HURRICANES, DID Y'ALL HAVE ANY FLOODING IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD? >> THE ONLY THING I HAD A PROBLEM WITH WAS MY POOL FILLING UP.
BUT NO FLOODING. I HAVE A LITTLE DRAIN BY MY DRIVEWAY THAT GOES DIRECTLY IN THE SEWER SYSTEM SO EVERYTHING
COMES OFF THE ROAD. >> OKAY, OKAY.
I'M NOT AWARE OF -- HIS HOUSE IS GOING TO HAVE THE WORST IMPACT, BECAUSE HE IS 5 FEET FROM HIS FOUNDATION FOR HE IS FAR ENOUGH FROM THE NEIGHBORS AND REALTY THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE MUCH IMPACT FROM HIM. YOU KNOW, HE IS GOING TO HAVE HALF OF THAT WATER COMING INTO HIS BAY WINDOW AREA.
BUT THAT IS SOLVABLE TOO. IT IS PRETTY SANDY.
IT WILL GO RIGHT THROUGH. ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? DO WE WANT TO GO GET MILK SHAKES? [LAUGHTER] YOU CAN SEE HOW WE ARE TORN ON THIS. IT IS CLOSE.
>> 35.5%, I WILL BE HAPPY WITH THAT.
>> I TELL YOU WHAT. >> WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?
>> I'M GOING TO SLIDE THE GAVEL OVER TO YOU.
SINCE MY WIFE IS HERE, I WILL PICK YOU AS VICE CHAIR FOR A MOMENT AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT WITH A 16 BY 20 PIER THAT IS REQUESTED. AND A LOT THAT IS 10 FEET TALL WHICH IS 35.5% AND NOT THE 40% AS WAS REQUESTED I THINK THAT IS JUST STRETCHING THE ENVELOPE A LITTLE BIT TOO FAR.
>> CAN WE PUT IN THE CONDITIONS ALSO REMOVAL OF THE EXISTING
SHED? >> YEAH, THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.
REMOVAL OF THE EXISTING FIVE BY EIGHT OR EIGHT BY EIGHT OR
WHATEVER. >> I HAVE ALREADY PLANNED TO DO THAT THIS WEEKEND. I AM OKAY WITH THAT.
>> I'M OKAY WITH THAT, TOO I WOULD ONLY SUGGEST, IF YOU DO COME BACK LATER WANTING TO GET MORE, I WOULD GET WITH THE COUNTY AND BRING US A LIST OF NEIGHBORS THAT ARE AT 40% OR SOMETHING. THAT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR
US TO OKAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> YEAH, I MEAN WITH A BIG ORANGE SIGN IN MY YARD, IT DID BRING A LOT OF TRAFFIC BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE ASKING ME WHEN I WAS DOING YARD WORK.
I EXPLAINED TO THEM. A LOT OF THEM WERE, LIKE, I'M GONNA GO HOME AND CHECK. THEY NEVER REALLY TOLD ME SINCE THEN. I KNOW A LOT OF THEM WERE
QUESTIONING. >> YOU CAN GO DOWN TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEBSITE AND LOOK AT EVERY NEIGHBOR AND SEE HOW MANY SQUARE FOOT THEY HAVE IN THEIR HOME.
AND YOU CAN CALCULATE FROM THERE.
IF YOU WOULD HAVE COME TODAY WITH A LIST OF THIS GUY, THIS GUY, AND THAT HOUSE, THAT'S ALL 40% AND THAT GUY IS AT 45%, I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM APPROVING THE 40% NOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. FOR ALL I KNOW YOU MIGHT BE THE ONLY HOUSE THAT IS MORE THAN 30%.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHERS. I'M SITTING HERE GOING THROUGH THE PROPERTY APPRAISAL RIGHT NOW THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHERS
THAT ARE LARGER. >> APPROACHING THE 40%?
>> OF COURSE, THEY GIVE YOU GROSS FLOOR AREA.
LOOKING AT HIS, IT'S NOT THE SAME NUMBER THAT HE CITED.
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BUT 3300 SQUARE FOOT IS THE GROSS.BUT ON HIS, I BELIEVE IT WAS 3000.
ACCORDING TO THEIR RECORDS. >> THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S --
>> 3196 FOR HIS 3300 ON ANOTHER'S IS OBVIOUSLY BIGGER.
THAN THE APPLICANT'S HOUSE. THERE ARE SEVERAL.
>> THIS IS NOT A GREAT DEVIATION FROM THE MEDIAN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THEN. I THINK WE ARE GOING TO BE OKAY
WITH THAT. >> WELL THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. I'VE ALREADY MADE A MOTION.
THAT IS THE GAVEL. >> I WILL SECOND THE MOTION.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
IT PASSES 3-0 WITH THOSE LIMITATIONS.
>> MAX 10 FEET AND REMOVAL OF THE SHED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH PURE GOOD LUCK ON YOUR DEPLOYMENT.
>> DO I NEED TO DO ANYTHING ELSE?
>> NO, WE WILL SEND YOU A LETTER THAT STATES THE CONDITIONS.
>> COME BACK SAFELY THAT IS THE ONLY THING YOU'VE GOT TO DO.
COME BACK SAFELY. NOW, I'M GONNA OPEN THE SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT TO SEE IF THOSE TWO PEOPLE WANT TO GET UP AND TALK ANY MORE SINCE THEY HAVE TALKED SO MUCH ALREADY.
WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE IT. AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD.
DO WE HAVE A MEETING NEXT MONTH I BELIEVE? I THINK KELLY SAID, WE HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM.
OKAY.
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