Jul 23, 2026 BCC Workshop

[CALL TO ORDER ]

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>> I CALLED TO ORDER OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BUDGET WORKSHOP, JULY 23RD, 2026. WE WILL GO RIGHT IN TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA IS DESIGNED TO ALLOW CITIZENS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING MATTERS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOARD. AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL NOT ENGAGE IN DEBATE OR ANSWER QUESTIONS.

YOU MAY EMAIL, AND STAFF WILL ADDRESS YOUR QUESTIONS.

OR YOU MAY EMAIL YOUR DISTRICT COMMISSIONER.

PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS ARE CONVENIENTLY PLACED AT THE MEETING ROOM ENTRANCE AND SHOULD BE SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK ON THE FAR LEFT OF THE DAIS. YOU ARE TO LIMIT TO YOUR COMMENTS 3 MINUTES. BEFORE ADJUSTING-- AND DRESSING THE BOARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

I'D LIKE TO OPEN THIS UP TO COMMENT PERIOD.

ANYONE. ANYONE BRAVE ENOUGH THIS

[1. Budget Overview]

ALL RIGHT. I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND WE ARE GOING TO START OUR MEETING.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK EVERYONE HERE FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU HAVE PUT IN TO ALL OF THIS.

I HAVE HEARD HOURS AND HOURS AND CONSTITUTIONALISTS EVERYONE HEAR, HEAR. THE STAFF AND EMPLOYEES HERE.

AND I CAN SPEAK FOR ALL OF US THAT WE APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK, AND WE ARE GOING TO GET THIS DONE.

THIS IS WHAT WE WERE ELECTED FOR.

AND IF IT'S GOOD OR NOT, WE WILL GET IT DONE.

BUT I WANTED TO START THE MEETING OFF BY SAYING THAT.

AND I KNOW WE WILL MAKE SOME DECISIONS HERE TODAY.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. COMMISSIONERS.

IT'S A GREAT DAY TODAY. IT'S NICE AND SUNNY OUT.

HARD WORK HAS BEEN DONE AND I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS.

IT IS DEFINITELY A TEAM EFFORT AND TEAM PLAYER ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR'S BUDGET.

WE SCHEDULED FOUR HOURS FOR THIS MEETING.

WE PRACTICE THIS MEETING ON-- WITH EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD.

COMING UP AND TALKING TO US, AND WORKING WITH THEM.

AND WHEN WE DID REVIEW IT THE LAST TIME IT TOOK ABOUT AN HOUR AND 45 MINUTES. SO TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THAT IS WHY WE ADDED ANOTHER TWO HOURS TO IT.

THERE WILL BE A SLIGHT BREAK AT 11:00, WHERE WE CAN BE EXCUSED.

PEOPLE CAN GET A SNACK, AND ALL OF US CAN GO TO THE CONFERENCE ROOM AND GRAB A SNACK. AND WE WILL COME BACK OVER, AND IF IT PLEASES THE BOARD WE WILL MAYBE HAVE SOME FOOD HERE AND JUST KEEP WORKING. MAYBE TAKE A 15 MINUTE BREAK IN ORDER TO DO THAT, IF THAT IS OKAY, MADAM CHAIR.

AND WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, ECHOING THOSE SENTIMENTS, THE TWO THAT ARE UP HERE RIGHT NOW, LOTS OF HEAVY WORK HAS BEEN DONE.

AND TROY AND JAKE, I CANNOT THANK YOU GUYS ENOUGH.

OVER TO YOU. >> GOOD MORNING.

MJ ROOM. OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET.

WE ARE HERE TO HAVE OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP.

FIRST OF ALL WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO WHAT OUR BUDGET BASIS IS AND WHERE WE HAVE COME UP TO TODAY.

IN THE BUDGET GAP, AND THEN WE WILL HEAR FROM OUR DEPARTMENTS.

FOR OUR BUDGET BASIS, WE UPDATED OUR REVENUES.

THE 5.26 ROADS ARE UPDATED AND REFLECTED HERE FROM THE 4% AFTER THE ORIGINAL AFTER WE GOT CERTIFICATION.

OUR OTHER REVENUES ARE COMING IN AT ZERO TO 2%.

WE RECEIVED OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICE REVERSION SUBMISSIONS.

THIS BUDGET BASIS DOES INCLUDE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF STOR STORMWATER. AND IT IS TO NOTE, GRANT REVENUE HAS NOT BEEN INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET REVIEW.

>> DO YOU WANT US TO ASK QUESTIONS AS WE GO? WILL THERE BE A TIME FOR QUESTIONS?

>> THERE WILL BE A TIME FOR QUESTIONS.

>> I WILL GO AHEAD AND STOP SO WE CAN...

>> THERE MAYBE QUESTIONS AS WE GO HERE.

>> FOR OUR EXPENSES, WE ARE FACTORING IN PERSONNEL AT 3%.

WE HAVE AN ESTIMATION OF WHAT EACH PERCENT WOULD BE IN REFERENCE TO THE GENERAL FUND. IF WE LOWER THAT DOWN EACH A PERCENT, THAT IS IN YOUR SERVICE LEVEL ADJUSTMENT WORKSHEET AT

THE END. >> MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE A COMMENT, AND THAT IS, FIRST OF ALL, IT IS BASED ON THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX, AND THERE ARE NUMEROUS OF THOSE.

THE ONE THAT IS COMMONLY USED IS, W.

I THINK IT IS WAGES. I FORGET WHAT THE W STANDS FOR.

AND RIGHT NOW, THE CPI FOR, W IS 3.5%.

CPI USE 3.2%. ON THE FLIP SIDE, THE GOVERNOR'S

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AND I WOULD SAY THE 3.5% IS HIGH, PREDICATED ON THE LOW COST OVER THE LAST TWO OR THREE MONTHS.

IT WAS 2.35 OR SO. COMING INTO THIS.

JUST A COMMENT. >> HEALTH CARE IS FACTORED IN AT 10%. ALL THE CONSTITUTIONAL BUDGETS HAVE BEEN ENTERED, AND THIS INCLUDES REDUCTIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED TO THE BOARD. ALSO WE WILL SEE ON A PAGE LATER WHAT THOSE REDUCTIONS LOOK LIKE FROM THE ORIGINAL SUBMISSION.

AND THE UNION CONTRACT. TRANSFERS FROM THE ZERO FUND.

ANY GAP IN A FUND WILL HAVE TO BE SUPPLEMENTED FROM THE GENERAL FUND BY WAY OF TRANSFER. ONE BUDGET UPDATE, TWO BUDGET UPDATES. WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED AN EMS FUND.

AND THIS TAKES THE FIRE EMS, THE 75% ALLOCATED IN THE GENERAL FUND, FIRE ADMINISTRATION AND THE AMBULANCE BILLING, IT TAKES IT INTO IT'S OWN FUND TO CLEARLY SHOW WHERE THIS IS GOING TO.

IT IS GOING TO SHOW HOW THOSE FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED FOR REVENUE AND EXPENSE. IT ALSO TAKES HER AMBULANCE BILLING REVENUE IN TO THAT FUND TO CLEARLY GO BACK TO THE SERVICES THAT WERE PROVIDED FOR THAT BUILT THAT REVENUE.

GENERAL FUND RESERVES ARE GOING TO SAY-- STAY AT 16.7%.

AND FUND RESERVES ARE BUDGETED FOR 5%.

AND FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, AS A HOLD, WHICH IS SHERIFFS, OFFICE AND FIRED, HIS 2.5%. OKAY.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE SLIDE, THANK YOU. HEALTH CARE FACTORED AT 10%, THAT'S THE COUNTY COVERING THE INCREASE, CORRECT? SO THERE WOULD BE NO INCREASED TO EMPLOYEES?

>> I WOULD SAY WE ARE NOT AT THAT POINT YET.

WE ARE STILL WORKING ON INSURANCE RATES.

WE MET WITH OUR INSURANCE BROKER.

SO I WOULD NOT SAY THERE WILL BE ANY INCREASED TO EMPLOYEES.

THAT IS TO BE DETERMINED. BUT WHAT WE FACTORED IN AT THIS POINT IS A 10% INCREASE ON THE COUNTY'S COST.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT INSURANCE RATES ARE GOING UP MORE THAN 10%

ACROSS MOST INDUSTRIES. >> AND THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS THAT COMMISSIONERS AND MANAGERS COMMENT ABOUT THE 3%.

I AM JUST STRUGGLING TO RUBBER-STAMP 3% ANNUALLY.

I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK THERE HAS GOT TO BE PERFORMANCE MEASURES.

THERE HAS GOT TO BE-- YOU SAID THIS IN THE PREVIOUS BUDGET MEETING, EVERY ONE JUST GETS A 3% RAISE.

I DO NOT NECESSARILY-- I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS STILL YOUR STANCE, BUT WE ARE GOING-- MAYBE TOWARDS THE END WE WILL DIVE INTO THAT. ONE THING I DO NOT WAN TO HAVE HAPPEN IS I DO NOT WANT TO LOWER THAT NUMBER, BUT THE INSURANCE GOES UP SO MUCH THAT PEOPLE ARE MAKING LESS MONEY.

I DO NOT WANT TO DO THAT. BUT I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO USE A FINE-TOOTHED COMB AND SHARPEN THE PENCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT IF SOMEONE GETS AN INCREASE, THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL REASON.

NOT JUST BECAUSE WE THROW 3% ACROSS THE TOP.

SO I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT. >> QUESTION.

IS THIS FOR ACTIVE-DUTY AND RETIREES? OR ACTIVE EMPLOYEES AND RETIREES? WOULD IT INCLUDE ALL THOSE SPOTS?

>> YES, SIR. AS WE GET THROUGH THE SLIDE DECK, BOTH IN THE DOCUMENTS WE GAVE YOU FOR POTENTIAL CONSIDERATIONS, THERE ARE CONSIDERATIONS OF HEALTH INSURANCE IN THERE. SO I THINK THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION AT SOME POINT TODAY, ALONG WITH THE 3 PERCENT, THOSE ARE BOTH ITEMS WE PUT ON OUR LIST TO HAVE HEALTHY DISCUSSIONS

ABOUT TODAY. >> THERE ARE QUITE A FEW ITEMS I WOULD BRING UP ON HEALTH CARE IF WE HAVE TIME LATER ON.

>> OKAY. >> THE NEXT SLIDE THAT WE HAVE IS A MORE INFORMATIONAL SLIDE, REGARDING OUR BUDGET UPDATE AND THE NEW FUND. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INFORMATION WAS CLEARLY OUT THERE.

AND WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE CHANGE WAS, WHY THE CHANGE WAS MADE, THE IMPACT AND THE FUND BALANCE FOR RESERVES.

THE NEXT ITEM IS THE BOC C REDUCTION, THE ALIGNMENT TO THE BUDGET. WHEN WE CAME IN JUNE WITH THAT BUDGET GAP, HERE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAVE DONE TODAY THAT HAVE BROUGHT THAT GAP DOWN. SO THERE HAS BEEN AN ELIMINATION OF 28 FTE'S ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS.

THIS CAME IN WITH A SAVINGS OF ABOUT 2.4 MILLION.

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WE FACTORED THAT IN AT 1.5 MILLION.

AND OTHER OPERATIONAL ITEMS LIKE UNIFORMS, SOFTWARE, TECHNOLOGY, TRAVEL AND TRAINING THAT IN THE CONVERSATIONS WE WERE ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND REDUCE THOSE. THERE WERE VARIOUS COST REDUCTIONS FACTORED INTO THIS, BUT EACH LINE ITEM IS DEFINITELY HARD TO CAPTURE WHEN WE ARE GOING FROM ALL RANGES OF DOLLARS. BUT WE DID WANT TO MENTION THERE ARE VARIOUS OTHER CALL-CENTER REDUCTIONS THAT THE DEPARTMENTS HAD. ON THE NEXT SLIDE WE HAD OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICES. SO THIS SHOWS HOW ACROSS CLAY COUNTY WE CAME TOGETHER AND THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS CAME IN WITH BUDGET REDUCTIONS AND REVERSIONS TO THEIR BUDGETS.

SO THAT WENT IN TO REDUCING THIS BUDGET GAP TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. IF THERE IS ANY QUESTIONS ON NOT, OR ANY CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER THAT IS HERE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THAT, WE DO HAVE THE TIME TO DO THAT NOW.

THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION WE DO HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON OUT AT THE KINGSTON OFFICE, AND SEVERAL OTHER PROJECTS ARE WRAPPING UP.

I DO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 100,000 IN MY BUDGET THAT I WAS A LITTLE ANXIOUS TO TELL YOU AHEAD OF TIME, SIMPLY BECAUSE OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO ME WITH OTHER CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

SO I WILL BE REVERTING BACK. I'M NOT READY TO GIVE YOU A HARD NUMBER, YET. THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE A COMMENT. AND I WAS HAPPY TO SEE IT'S A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT. IT IS A SHARED PAIN THAT THE CONSTITUTIONAL STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE AND HELPED US WITH OUR GAP BETWEEN RESOURCE AND REQUIREMENTS.

I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT ALL THE CONSTITUTIONALISTS STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE. THANK YOU ALL.

>> PROVIDED IN YOUR FOLDERS FROM THIS MORNING, THE SHAREHOLDER PROVIDERS DID PROVIDE A HANDOUT REGARDING THEIR PORTION.

YES? >> WE HAVE TWO BOATS ON THE WATER RIGHT NOW. SO THAT WILL BE DOWN TO ONE

BECAUSE ONE IS BEING REMOVED? >> CURRENTLY WE HAVE, I BELIEVE IT'S TWO BOATS, BUT THE ADDITIONAL DEPUTY WAS TO MAKE IT SO WE COULD HAVE TWO OFFICERS ON THE BOAT.

>> YES, PLEASE. YOU HAVE TO COME UP.

YES. >> OKAY.

WE ARE BACK ON. LET ME CLARIFY A BIT.

I WAS IN THAT UNIT WHEN THAT POSITION WAS ASKED FOR AND NEEDED. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE GRANTED A GRANT FOR A LARGER VESSEL FOR THE RIVER, AND TO ASSIST WHEN THE BRIDGES ARE DONE FOR 23 AND STUFF. THAT VESSEL, TO OPERATE SAFELY, WOULD BE TWO PEOPLE REQUIRED TO RUN THAT VESSEL.

IT IS A LARGER VESSEL. THERE IS A LOT GOING ON.

SO WE BUDGETED FOR THAT ADDITIONAL OFFICER.

WE ARE GETTING THE BOAT, BUT WE ARE JUST NOT THERE YET.

CURRENTLY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE RUNS TWO BOATS.

SO WHEN ONE PERSON IS OFF, THE OTHER BOAT IS RUNNING AS WELL WITH A PERSON. SO WE HAVE COVERAGE SEVEN DAYS

PER WEEK. >> WHAT WOULD HAPPEN NOW WHAT THAT LARGER BOAT NOW THAT WE HAVE TWO?

>> IT SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO-- VOLUNTEERS, A RESERVE.

WE WILL HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. IT IS A LARGER VESSEL.

A LOT MORE TO OPERATE. AND TO SAFELY DO SO WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT TWO PEOPLE ON THAT BOAT.

>> WE DO NOT HAVE THE BOAT NOW? >> WE DO NOT.

JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE WHAT HAS BEEN PROMISED AND WHAT THEY ARE DELIVERING ON IS TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

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MAY OF NEXT YEAR. >> WE HAVE ANOTHER YEAR, REALLY.

>> WE WERE ORIGINALLY TOLD THAT IT WOULD BE A LOT SOONER.

BUT AS EVERYTHING IN CONSTRUCTION AND BUILDING GOES ON, AND THIS IS BEING BUILT IN THE NORTHWEST OF THE COUNTRY.

>> HOW BIG IS THIS? >> IT'S PRETTY BIG.

>> THIRTY? 30-FOOT?

>> THANK YOU. >> BIG IS RELATIVE WITH ME.

[LAUGHTER] >> ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO

ADD? >> I CAN ANSWER ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS. >> ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. DIANE, CAN YOU COME BACK UP? I HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU. I NEED YOUR HELP WITH THIS.

CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE NEW THING WE ARE GETTING FROM-- TELL ME THE WORDING? [INDISCERNIBLE]

WHETHER THAT IS-- >> WHETHER THAT IS A FEE

THE COUNTY IS PAYING? >> RIGHT.

WITH THAT PROPERTY TAX REDUCTION IN TERMS OF WHAT WE WILL BE RECEIVING NEXT YEAR, IF I DID NOT GET THAT 400,000, I AM SURE 1 MILLION. SO IT WOULD END UP THAT THERE WOULD BE NO REVERSION ANYWAY. THE STANCE OF THE TAX COLLECTORS FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS THAT STATUTES GRANT US THAT MONEY, AND WHAT WE DO NOT NEED WE GIVE BACK ALREADY.

AND THE PRESSURE IS ON THAT NOT ONE TAX COLLECTOR IS GOING TO AGREE TO CHANGE THAT. BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO GET THE MONEY ANYWAY. THAT IS HOW WE LOOK AT EIGHT.

AND IT IS THE STATUTES THAT PUT US IN A POSITION THAT WE WERE NEVER MEANT TO BE IN, WHERE WE HAVE TO ASK FOR MONEY, WHEN WE HAVE MONEY PROVIDED THROUGH THE STATUTES.

>> SO IT IS KIND OF A RESERVE FOR YOU, JUST IN CASE?

>> EXACTLY. >> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. >> ON OUR NEXT SLIDE, IF THIS WAS AN ADDITION TO THAT I GAVE YOU THIS MORNING, THIS IS AN ALLOCATION OF THE TAX DOLLARS THAT WILL BE IN THIS BUDGET.

SO WHAT WE SHOW IS RECEIVING OUT ALARM IN THE AMOUNT OF 180 MILLION, AND THE SOME CHANGE THERE.

AND I HAVE BROKEN IT DOWN TO WHAT EACH BOX AND WHERE IT WILL GO IN OUR BUDGET. OUT THE TOP WE TALKED ABOUT THE 5% HOLDBACK SO THAT 9 MILLION WILL COME RIGHT OFF THE TOP.

THE RESIDENT PORTION WILL GO TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT MST YOU AS NORMAL, AND THE SHERIFF COUNTYWIDE FUND.

THEN THEY WILL GO TO THE FIRE CONTROL MST YOU AND THE NEW FIRE EMS WIFE-- COUNTY FUND. WE HAVE OUR SERVICES MTU, THE CONSERVATION LAND PROGRAM AND OUR CHALLENGER MST YOU.

WHAT THIS DOES IS WHEN YOU BREAK IT ALL DOWN, THERE ARE $0 GOING IN TO THE GENERAL FUND COVERING FOR COUNTY GOVERNMENT SERVICES.

>> I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. >> YES.

>> ON THE CHALLENGER MST YOU, DO YOU HAVE A IDEA WHERE THAT SITS TODAY WE I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S IN THERE BECAUSE WERE COMING TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO PAY THE MONEY BACK BECAUSE THE JOBS ARE NOT THERE. I WANT TO KNOW IF THAT FUND IS

ABLE TO FUND ITSELF? >> THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PIECES OF THAT QUESTION. THE FUND IS ABLE TO FUND ITSELF BECAUSE WE PAID BACK THE CAPITAL FIVE.

THERE IS NOT ENOUGH MONEY IN THAT FUND AT THIS TIME TO PAY BACK TWO PLUS MILLION DOLLARS IF THE STATE SAYS WE HAVE TO PAY THAT BACK. SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE RECONCILE THAT. AND THE OTHER SIDE AS YOU ARE GOING TO START HAVING MAINTENANCE.

AS MAINTENANCE STARTS RUNNING UP ON THOSE ROADS, THEIR-- WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE. SO THERE IS A BALANCE TO MAKE SURE WE PAY FOR WHATEVER EXPENSES THE COUNTY HAS.

AND THERE IS NOT THAT MUCH MONEY IN THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

>> IF WE HAD TO PAY THE GRANT BACK, DOES THE STATE TAKE

PAYMENTS? >> I WOULD HOPE SO.

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>> AND SECONDLY-- DO THEY RECOGNIZE THAT MONEY SHOULD COME FROM NOT? WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO TAKEOUT OF OUR RESERVES, RIGHT? AND SECONDLY, DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH TIME IS LEFT? [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> IF YOU WENT THE FULL FIVE YEARS IN TO THE CURRENT COLLECTION RATE OF 700,000 PER YEAR, HE WOULD HAVE ENOUGH TO PAY BACK. BUT WE ARE WORKING COOP-- CLOSELY WITH THE CLEAR. WE'VE HAD-- WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CLERK. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING OUT A SPEND PLAN TO MAKE SURE WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH HOW THAT WILL FUNCTION. IN ANY CASE, WE WOULD NEED TO PAY IT BACK. [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> FROM THE DEPARTMENTS, AND ACROSS OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS, OUR BUDGET GAP TODAY IS AT 8 MILLION.

AND SO, WITH THIS BASELINE, AND WITH THIS NUMBER, WE WILL GO IN TO OUR DEPARTMENTAL PRESENTATIONS, AND THEY ARE GOING TO LAY OUT A FEW DIFFERENT ITEMS FOR YOU IN EACH OF THEIR PRESENTATIONS. AND THEY WILL GO OVER WHAT THEIR DEPARTMENT FUNCTION IS. THERE "POCO FROM 2024-2025.

2026 AND THIS YEAR. ADOPTED AND AMENDED AND PROPOSE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. YOU WILL SEE WHAT THEIR REPORTED SERVICES ARE. ALL THE CONTRACTS THEY HAVE ARE LISTED WITH THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, AND ANY OTHER PROJECTS OR SERVICES THAT ARE OVER 25,000. MANY DEPARTMENTS WILL ALSO LAY OUT TO YOU ANY OTHER SERVICE-LEVEL ADJUSTMENTS THAT THEY HAVE SEEN IN THEIR DEPARTMENT THAT COULD BE AN ADJUSTMENT. BUT NOT NECESSARILY AT A STAFF DECISION LEVEL. THAT IS WHY WE ARE MEETING TODAY. HERE ARE PLACES THAT WE FEEL WE CAN STILL CUT AT YOUR DISCRETION AND DIRECTION TO CONTINUE TO WORK DOWN THIS 8 MILLION-DOLLAR GAP.

IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FROM HERE, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER, OTHERWISE WE WILL MOVE IT TO OUR DEPARTMENT.

>> FROM A FLOW STANDPOINT, IT MAYBE BEST TO AS THE QUESTIONS ARE EVERYTHING, BUT AS A GROUP, THERE ARE SOME STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE PROVIDED YOU.

SO MAYBE AT THE END IS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW TO GET TO THE

8 MILLION. >> ALL RIGHT.

[2. Department Presentations]

HE IS GOING TO BRIEF US ON THE FIRE.

>> GOOD MORNING. FIRST I AM GOING TO SAY THAT WE ARE APPRECIATIVE TO MOVE TO THE COMBINED FUND.

IF YOU GO TO YOUR PERSONAL BUDGETS AND IMAGINE YOU HAD TO RUN TWO CHECKING ACCOUNTS. ONE THAT HAD 75% OF ANY PURCHASE YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE AND ANOTHER WITH 25 PERCENT, AND YOU HAD TO DO THAT, THAT WAS THE EXPERIENCE FOR MY LAST 16 YEARS HERE WHEN WE RAN THOSE FUNDS AT A 75-25% SPLIT. AND EVERY TIME WE WENT TO MAKE A PURCHASE IN FIRE RESCUE WE HAD TO MAKE THOSE CALCULATIONS.

SO MOVING FORWARD I COMMEND THE BUDGET DEPARTMENT WITH COMBINING THAT. IT WAS ALWAYS NEEDED BASED ON THE REVENUE RECEIVED BETWEEN THE FIRE MSTU AND THE EMS, WHICH USE THE GENERAL REVENUE. AND IT WAS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT FROM A REVENUE SIDE. IT MADE IT SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFICULT ON THE PROCUREMENT SIDE.

AND WE HAVE LABORED UNDER THAT A BIT.

THE BUDGET THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THAT I'M GOING TO ADDRESS IS PREPARED IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR DIRECTION FROM THE 24 TO 28 STRATEGIC PLANS THAT WE STAND IN PLACE.

IN YOUR DIRECTION AS PART OF THAT WAS TO REDUCE RISKS THAT WOULD CAUSE LOSS OF LIFE AND PROPERTY BY IMPROVING FIRE RESCUE SERVICES. YOU HAD FIVE YEAR TARGETS AND THAT. THE FIVE-YEAR TARGET SUBSTANTIALLY WAS TO DECREASE THE RESPONSE TIME IN EMERGENCY CALLS BY 15%. THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT ONE, BECAUSE WE HOVER AT ABOUT A SEVEN MINUTE RESPONSE TIME CURRENTLY COUNTYWIDE. THE GOAL WOULD TAKE US TO A SIX MINUTE RESPONSE TIME. WE CURRENTLY SERVE OUT OF 12 FIRE STATION LOCATIONS, THE 13TH IF YOU INCLUDE OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE TOWN OF ORANGE PARK WHERE WE DO HOW IS A RESCUE UNIT, AND TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND REDUCE THAT RESPONSE TIME MEANS WE HAVE TO IMPROVE OUR PLACEMENT AND TIMING OF WHERE WE ARE COUNTYWIDE. 12 FIRE STATIONS, 640 SQUARE MILES. 13 IF YOU INCLUDE ARCH PARK.

IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL RISK TO TAKEN TO BE ABLE TO REDUCE THAT IS

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YOUR DIRECTION WAS TO BUILD FIVE FIRE STATIONS.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE STATION 20 IN PLACE AND IN OPERATION.

UNDER CONSTRUCTION IS A NEW LOCATION, STATION ONE.

STATION 22 IS BEING RELOCATED ON TO 220 AND ARENA ROAD.

THOSE ARE ALMOST COMPLETE, AND YOU WILL SEE THAT COMPLETION TAKE PLACE UNDER THIS BUDGET. STATION 24 IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS WE SPEAK. BEST THE VILLAGE STATION THAT WE ARE PLACING ON-SITE. SO WE ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO BAD GOAL ALREADY. STATION 15 IS UNDER DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION AS WE STAND HERE TODAY.

I SAW PICTURES LAST WEEK THAT THEY ARE BEGINNING TO MAKE THE SITE PREPARATION LOCATION JUST OFF THE ROAD, WHICH WILL REMOVE US FROM THE LAKE LOCATION WE WERE ALL FAMILIAR WITH.

SOME SUBSTANTIAL CONSTRUCTION FACILITIES OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR AND WE ARE PREPARING A NEW SERVICE LOCATION FOR PENNEY FARMS AREA. STATION ONE AND STATION 16 COMING IN TO PLAY THEIR WILL HELP US IN THAT RAPIDLY GROWING AREA TO INCREASE OUR PRESENCE AND THEREFORE REDUCE SERVICE TIMES TO IT. WE ARE CONTINUING TO DO THAT AND CONTINUING TO PROVIDE THE APPARATUS AND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT. THE ONE THING WE MAY SCURRY ON IT THIS BUDGET IS IT HAS THE DIRECTION TO SUPPORT THE PUBLIC SAFETY STAFFING PLAN, THE GOAL, WHICH WAS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL, WAS TO GET TO A 1.5 FIREFIGHTERS PER 1000.

WE ARE CURRENTLY AT ABOUT 309 OPERATIONAL FIREFIGHTERS IN THE FIELD. THAT WOULD TAKE US CLOSE TO 360.

AND WE WILL NOT MAKE THAT UNDER THIS BUDGET.

THIS BUDGET CONTINUES ESSENTIALLY THE SAME PERSONNEL STRENGTH WE HAD YEAR-OVER-YEAR AND I WILL ADDRESS IT SPECIFICALLY LATER. ONE REDUCTION WE MADE AS WE SAW THE PROBLEMS COME IN WITH THE REVENUE GENERATION FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR WAS TO DIFFER THE ADDITION OF 12 FIREFIGHTERS THAT WE WERE GOING TO PUT IN TO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET TO KEEP US MOVING INCREMENTALLY ALONG THAT PLAN TO PLACE.

THAT REDUCTION ALONG WITH A FEW OTHERS WE HAVE MADE HAS ALREADY REDUCED WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A PROPOSED LINEAR OF ABOUT $2 MILLION DOWN TO WHERE YOU SEE IT TODAY.

SO WE MADE THOSE IN PLACE PRIOR TO COMING INTO PLAY FOR THE BUDGET. WE WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE OUT OF THE 12 EXISTING STATIONS WE HAVE, BUT ADD THOSE TWO NEWS STATION LOCATIONS. SO THIS BUDGET WILL PREPARE US TO HAVE 13 ENGINES IN SERVICE. THREE LADDERS, 14 RESCUE UNITS, AND SEVEN ENGINES AND FIVE TENDERS.

THAT IS A NEW ADDITION OF FOUR TENDERS AND FIVE PUMPERS THAT ARE PART OF A ISO INITIATIVE. ONE OF THE GOALS IN THAT STRATEGIC PLAN IS TO ACHIEVE A CLASS THREE ISO RATING AND WE HAVE TAKEN THAT A STEP FURTHER TO SAY WE WANT TO GET A CLASS THREE ISO RATING ON A COUNTYWIDE BASIS, WHICH WOULD PROVIDE TO WHAT WE THINK WILL BE 26,000 RESIDENCES IN THE COUNTY.

WATER, SERVICE, COVERAGE AS IF THEY WERE IN 1000 FEET OF A FIRE HYDRANT LIKE THE REST OF THE COUNTY IS.

THAT COULD BE AN EXCEEDINGLY SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT AND DECREASE FOR HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE ON A COUNTYWIDE BASIS FOR THOSE PROPERTIES. WE ARE POISED ON THE CUSP OF THAT. REPLACE THOSE UNITS IN SERVICE ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AGO AND WE ARE CONTINUING ON THAT PLAN, AND HOPEFUL, FINGERS CROSSED, THAT THE ISO WILL AWARD US THAT PROTECTION, WHICH WILL ALLOW THOSE HOMEOWNERS TO SEE THAT, DOES FUTURE SAVINGS, WHICH WOULD OCCUR AS PART OF THIS BUDGET.

>> WHEN DOES THAT HAPPEN AND HOW LONG IS THAT PROCESS?

>> WE BEGAN THE PROCESS WITH ISO JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, SENDING THE FIRST DATA TO THEM. THEY WERE HERE IN APRIL.

WE ARE EXCHANGING DATA AND WAITING ON, FINGERS CROSSED, HOPEFUL NEWS FROM THEM THAT WE CAN REDUCE FROM A CRAWL-- CLASS FOUR TO CLASS THREE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE COVERAGE I TALKED ABOUT, BUT ALSO POTENTIALLY PROVIDE SAVINGS TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ACROSS THE COUNTY IF WE DO THAT.

OR IF WE ARE STUCK WAITING ON THEM.

>> AND IF WE LOOK AT THE STATIONS BEING BUILT IN THAT...

>> THE STATIONS HAVE BEEN INCLUDED AT THIS POINT.

WE BELIEVE WE HAVE A SECOND BITE OF THE APPLE OPPORTUNITY TO GO FURTHER ON THAT. AND THAT WOULD HELP US DOWN THE ROAD FOR THAT. BUT THE KEY WOULD BE TO GET THAT FIRE PROTECTION RURAL WATER SUPPLY GOING COUNTYWIDE.

SO WE ARETHS. HOPEFULLY THAT KIND OF SETS THE TABLE FOR WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE BRIEF SPEECH BEFORE I

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FILHO SEE THE PERSONNEL PAUSE FOR THE COMBINED OPERATIONAL PART OF IT,-- DO YOU SEE THE COMBINED OPERATIONAL PART OF IT.

IT SHOWS A 12% INCREASE OVERALL FOR PERSONNEL COST.

LESS THAN 8% OF THAT IS INCLUDED WITH THE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS WE HAVE WITH OUR UNION CONTRACT. THAT INCLUDES BOTH THE ANNUAL RAISE, ALONG WITH SERVICE RACES THAT WOULD COME INTO IT.

THE ACTUAL HIGHER PART OF THAT PERSONNEL PAUSE GOES IN TO OVER TIME. THE RETIREMENT COSTS HAVE CHANGED AND HEALTH CARE COST, AS WE TALKED ABOUT.

SO THE OVERALL INCREASE IS ACTUALLY HIGHER THAN WHAT WE WOULD PROVIDE TO THE PERSONNEL. IT MAKE SENSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT FROM A SERVICE DELIVERY STANDPOINT.

OPERATING COSTS FOR THE BUDGET HAVE REDUCED SLIGHTLY YEAR-OVER-YEAR. I AM TAKING THAT WITH A LITTLE GRAIN OF SALT. WE ARE GOING TO OPENING-- TO BE OPENING TWO NEW SERVICE LOCATIONS.

AND THAT WILL BE A CHALLENGE, BUT WE ACCEPT THAT AS PART OF THIS AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE BUDGET.

AND CAPITAL COSTS HAVE BEEN REDUCED SUBSTANTIALLY.

BUT THEY PETE LAST YEAR YEAR-OVER-YEAR.

PARTIALLY BECAUSE WE WERE DOING SOME FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH AS WE TALKED ABOUT WITH CONSTRUCTION, DID NOT INCUR WITHIN THE YEAR THAT IT WAS BUDGETED FOR.

WE COMPLETED IT OVER THE COURSE OF THIS YEAR.

AND WE HAD APPARATUS CAN. -- PROCUREMENTS SET APART FROM OUR CAPITAL REPLACEMENT PROGRAM THAT WAS INCLUDED HERE TO ASSIST US WITH THAT ISO PLAN THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

SO YOU WILL SEE A REDUCTION YEAR-OVER-YEAR.

IT IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN 24-25.

BUT THAT IS WHY IT LOOKS LIKE A PEAK AND A LINE GOING OUT OF.

THAT BASICALLY ADDRESSES THE FIRE CONTROL FRONT PAGE OF THE PROGRAM. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE.

>> WHAT WAS THE NEGOTIATED PAY RAISE?

>> 6% WILL BE IN THE NEXT YEAR. >> 6%.

>> THAT DOES INCLUDE SERVICE RAISES FOR YEAR-OVER-YEAR.

>> 6%. >> TWELVE LOCATIONS.

THAT INCLUDES 20 NOW IN SERVICE? >> TWENTY HAVE MOVED DOWN.

YOU WILL SEE UNITS THAT SAY 20. THAT'S OUR FIRE STATION.

24 PEOPLE WE HAD TO HOUSE IN PLACE WHILE WE BUILD THEIR NEW

LOCATION. >> WHEN THE BOND IS DONE, WHAT IS THE TOTAL NUMBER? 17, 16?

>> WE HOPE TO GET AT LEAST SIX. WE ARE PREPARING AT LEAST SIX.

WE COULD EXTEND THAT, BUT CAPITAL BOOK HAS BEEN REALLY

GOOD AT MOVING THIS FORWARD. >> SEVENTEEN TOTAL.

BUT THEY ARE NOT ALL NEW STATIONS?

>> RIGHT. RIGHT NOW THERE ARE ONLY TWO NEW LOCATIONS THAT WILL GO ONLINE. STATION 16 IS A REBIRTH OF A FORMER VOLUNTEER STATION THAT WAS LOCATED THERE.

BUT WE ARE KIND OF EXCITED TO GET THAT IN TO THAT PENNEY FARMS AREA BEFORE WE SEE THE MASSIVE CONSTRUCTION.

>> SO 14 BEFORE THE PLAN IS DONE?

>> WE ARE HOPEFUL WE CAN GET AN ADDITIONAL ONE, THE 21 SITE WE HAVE LOOKED AT. BUT THAT IS GOING TO BE REALLY

HARD. >> THE LARGER SEMI?

>> THE ONE THING WE HAVE DONE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, IF YOU GO DOWN, IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS WE HAVE ADDED FOUR RESCUE UNITS, TWO LADDERS, FOUR TENDERS, FIVE PUMPERS, A SAFETY CAR AND A COMMUNITY PAIR MEDICINE CAR. AND WE HAVE STUCK THOSE IN TO THOSE 12 STATION LOCATIONS. AND WE ARE JAM-PACKED AS WE POSSIBLY CAN BE AT THE MOMENT. WE NEED THOSE STATION LOCATIONS TO EXPAND OUT. BUT TO REDUCE THE SERVICE TIME, THE RESPONSE TIME THAT I TALKED ABOUT AND THE STRATEGIC PLANNING GOAL, THAT CEILING WAY TO DO IT, FOR SURE.

>> WE REVIEWED THE NUMBER OF RESCUE UNITS WE CURRENTLY HAVE,

AND HOW MANY WILL WE HAVE? >> WHEN WE ARE DONE WE WILL HOLD IT AT ABOUT THE SAME. 14 NOW.

WE DID NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADD THE PERSONNEL NECESSARY TO PUT IN NEW RESCUE UNITS YET. CLEARLY HAD WE GONE TO THE 12 FIREFIGHTERS, WE HAVE A WHOLE OF ABOUT 24 THAT WE NEEDED.

I DID NOT WANT TO ASK FOR 24 IN THIS BUDGET.

I FIGURE 12 IS WHERE WE STARTED. BUT ONCE WE SAW WHERE REVENUES CAME IN, WE BACKED IT UP OFF THAT.

>> THANK YOU. >> THE CONTRACTS YOU TAKE A LOOK AT, YOUR LIFE PACKS AND THAT HER MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.

THE LIFE EXTENSION CLINIC IS ARE CONTRACTUALLY MANDATED PHYSICAL DRUG SCREENING, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

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FIRE WATCH IS OUR FIRE STATISTICS.

BOUND TREE MEDICAL IS YOUR OPERATIVE IQ AND ASSET MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS. SO WE CAN DISTRIBUTE WHAT WE HAVE IN SUPPLY. THE BUTTERFLIES OR ULTRASOUND DEVICES ARE ELEMENT-- IS OUR TELEMEDICINE PROGRAM THAT WE OPERATE. IF YOU GO TO THE STATUTORY MANDATE WHERE WE PAY THE FORESTRY SERVICE, WHICH ARE MANDATED TO DO BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE, THIS IS THE DEA COMPLIANCE PROGRAM FOR NARCOTICS.

THIS TRACKS TO ENSURE WE MAY HAVE CPR RESPONSE FROM OUR CITIZENS. THIS IS OUR RADIO SYSTEM.

THIS IS OUR DRUG ALCOHOL TESTING PROGRAM AFTER HOURS AND VEHICLE ACCESS. FIRE PROTECTION PUBLICATIONS, THAT GOES TO OUR TRAINING SYSTEM.

TANGO TANGO IS OUR ABILITY TO USE RADIO OVERSELL SERVICE.

THIS IS OUR RETURN TO DUTY PHYSICALS.

AND THIS IS OUR NARCOTICS SAFES. >> HOW PREVALENT IS COMMAND COUNSELING IN THE FIRE RESCUE INDUSTRY?

>> I THINK YOU ARE ONE OF THE LEADERS ACROSS THE STATE AND WE'VE SEEN THAT IN APPLYING THIS FOR OUR MEMBERS.

>> I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THAT IS A BENEFIT.

>> IT IS NOT DONE EVERYWHERE. IT'S BECOMING MORE PREVALENT, AND HAS BECOME MORE PREVALENT SINCE THE STATE MANDATED THAT PTSD IS NOW CONSIDERED A WORKERS COMPREHENSION-- A WORKER'S COMP.

CASE. BY WORKING THIS AHEAD OF IT I THINK IT SAVES MONEY ON THE BACK END.

BUT THAT'S A VERY DIFFICULT MODEL TO PROVE.

>> THESE ARE ALL CONTRACTS, EXTERNAL SERVICES, HOW MANY

APPLY TO THE PARK? >> I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY DO WITH THAT. ONCE WE SEPARATE THE EMS SIDE FROM THEM, I AM UNFAMILIAR. BEFORE WE WERE PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES TO THEM. ONCE THEY WENT OUT ON THEIR OWN THEY ARE DOING IT ON THEIR OWN AND I WOULD ASSUME THEY HAVE TO

DO MUCH OF THE SAME HERE. >> COMMAND COUNSELING, THEY ARE

NOT IN OUR PROGRAM? >> NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF.

>> THANK YOU. >> CHIEF, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

ONE, I AM CURIOUS ABOUT LEXA PULLED.

THE POLICY AND PROCEDURES AND TRAINING AS A PIECE OF SOFTWARE.

I WOULD NOT IMAGINE THAT THINGS CHANGE THAT OFTEN IN YOUR FIELD.

LIKE HOW YOU FIGHT A FIRE IS HOW YOU FIGHT A FIRE.

AND I'M NOT TRYING TO MINIMIZE IT ALL.

I AM GRATEFUL FOR EVERYTHING. ALL PUBLIC SAFETY AND WHAT IT DOES FOR OUR COUNTY. BUT $37,000.

HOW MUCH DO YOU ALL USE THAT. HOW MUCH COULD WE USE-- LIKE WITH AI AND GOOGLE, I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT I SEE-- I SEE THE DAYS

OF THESE THINGS GOING AWAY. >> WITH AI IT WILL CHANGE SUBSTANTIALLY. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ARE THERE YET. THE REAL BENEFIT WE HAVE FROM THOSE TYPES OF PROGRAMS AS THEY ENSURE THAT WE MEET MANDATED STATUTORY TO THE STATE TO FEDERAL RULES OF LAWS, AND WE COMPLY WITH THAT ON A LARGER BASIS.

SO IT IS A COMPLIANCE THING THAT HAS AN INDEMNIFICATION FOR US AT

THE MOMENT. >> I GET THAT.

BUT COMPLIANCES MY WORLD. AND I DO IT MYSELF.

I AM PAID TO DO COMPLIANCE FOR OTHER COMPANIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I JUST DO NOT KNOW-- I WOULD ASK-- I WOULD GET YOU ALL TO LOOK AT HOW MUCH YOU ARE USING IT, BASED ON OUR BE REALLY GETTING $37,000 WORTH OF VALUE

FROM IT WE. >> I THINK THAT IS FAIR TO POINT OUT AND IN THE FUTURE I BELIEVE THE AI TRACK WILL BE WHERE A LOT OF THIS GOES. I THINK IT WILL PLACE A LOT OF

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>> IN MY SECOND QUESTION IS YOU HAVE THREE DIFFERENT, THAT WERE CONTRACTED WITH FOR PHYSICAL DRUG SCREENING AND ALCOHOL TESTING AND THAT KIND OF THING. WHY DO WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT CONTRACTS. IS IT BECAUSE THEY COME UP AT

DIFFERENT TIMES? >> WE BID IT JUST RECENTLY AND THE BIDS CAME BACK. AND WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE BEST COST FOR EACH LEVEL OF SERVICE, THAT IS HOW WE ARRIVED

AT THAT. >> OKAY.

>> AS FAR AS LEXAPRO, HE YOU WANT A BREAKDOWN OF THAT?

>> I JUST THINK THAT SOMETHING WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER--

>> LEXA PULL. >> SORRY.

>> IF I MAY, I HAVE A GRAPHIC THAT I ASKED FOR A PHOTOCOPY TO BE MADE BASED ON YOUR QUESTION. IT'S ALL THE FIRE STATION PROJECTS GRAPHICALLY AND IT HELPS YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY ARE. SO I WILL PASS THIS DOWN.

>> I THINK WE ARE READY TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

>> THESE ARE THE MAJOR PROJECT CLAUSE.

WE HAVE THE BUFFERING UNITS AND PERSONAL PROTECTIVE GEAR, THAT WE HAVE ON PLACE FOR A PERIODIC BASIS.

AND YOU HAVE BEEN VERY GENEROUS IN EXTENDING THE TWO SETS OF THIS YEAR TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE ALSO ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF THE CANCER REDUCTION OF EXPOSURE TO OUR MEMBERS.

SO THAT IS PART OF THAT. >> HOW ARE WE DEALING WITH THAT?

>> WE ARE GETTING CLOSE TO HAVING THOSE SETS OUT TO EVERYBODY. THE LARGER PORTION IS THAT THE VENDORS ARE STRUGGLING A BIT TO HELP MEET THAT.

BUT WE ARE JUST ON THE CUSP OF MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS

TWO SETS. >> WHAT DOES 700,005 US?

HOW MANY SETS? >> THEY ARE RUNNING ABOUT 7000 PER SET RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN DO THE MATH.

EQUIPPING A FIREFIGHTER BETWEEN NOT, THAT'S RUNNING ANYWHERE FROM 7000 TO 10,000 TO GET THE PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT ALONG WITH THEIR UNIFORMS, THEIR HELMETS, THEREFORE HISTORY GEAR AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS IN PLACE.

>> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

CHIEF, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION, AND I DON'T NECESSARILY EXPECT AN ANSWER TODAY.

I DID NOT ASK AHEAD OF TIME, BUT THIS POPPED UP IN MY HEAD.

I KNOW FROM TALKING TO YOU OVER PAST YEARS, THE SHIRTS THAT YOU HAVE ON, THAT EVERYBODY WEARS ON DUTY, ARE EXPENSIVE.

AND THEIR TEACHERS THAT HAVE CLAY COUNTY FIRE RESCUE AND ALL THAT ARE A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE. AND MY QUESTION IS, I KNOW WE MADE A CHANGE A NUMBER OF YEARS BACK WHERE WE NOW REQUIRE ON-DUTY TO WEAR THE UNIFORM THAT YOU ARE WEARING.

I AM WONDERING,-- I GUESS, IF THEY ARE COMING INTO MY HOME-- I WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT SAYS CLAY COUNTY FIRE RESCUE.

OBVIOUSLY. SO I KNOW THEY ARE THE PERSON.

BUT I GUESS IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING THAT STILL REPRESENTS THE DEPARTMENT PROFESSIONALLY, IT DOESN'T DENIGRATE THE PROFESSION AT ALL. BUT IS THERE A WAY WE CAN BE MORE COST-EFFECTIVE IN THE UNIFORMS WE PROVIDE? I STILL WANT THEM TO HAVE THOSE UNIFORMS TO WEAR AT CERTAIN TIMES, BUT ESPECIALLY GOING OUT TO CALLS IN THE SUMMER WHEN IT'S HOT, AND THEY MAYBE GET-- FOR A CAR ACCIDENT THEY MIGHT GET SWEATY AND MESSY. I JUST WONDER COULD WE MAKE A

CHANGE THERE? >> I THINK WE HAVE DONE THAT ALREADY. THE BIG CHANGE IN UNIFORMS IS TO GET RID OF THE PFA S THAT WAS IN THE UNIFORMS. WHICH WAS A BIT OF A STRUGGLE. WE NOW HAVE WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER THE BLUE VERSION OF THESE CLASS C UNIFORMS. WE ALSO HAVE THE POLO SHIRTS WE ISSUED THAT ARE A VARIANCE OF THAT. SO YOU WILL SEE THAT THEY HAVE A CHOICE OF THE BUTTON UP AND THE POLO SHIRT.

THE T-SHIRTS THAT ARE OUT THERE ARE CONSIDERED CLASS D.

AND DEPENDING ON THE HEAT LEVEL FOR THE DAY THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN THE POLICY FOR THEM TO GO TO THAT.

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SO THEY HAVE A VARIATION BETWEEN THOSE THREE TYPES OF UNIFORMS TO WEAR DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND WHAT THEY NEED

TO DO. >> I WAS JUST WONDERING, AND WE MOVE MORE TOWARDS THE LESS EXPENSIVE?

>> WE HAVE, BY REDUCING AND PROVIDING THOSE OPTIONS AND REDUCING SOME OF THOSE CHOICES, WE DON'T HAVE TO ISSUE AS MANY OF THE BUTTON UPS AS WE HAVE HAD IN THE PAST.

AND THAT ALLOWS THE POLO AND T-SHIRT VARIANT TO BE USED MORE FREQUENTLY. SO THAT DOES HAVE A REDUCTION.

>> BUT THEY CAN WEAR THE T-SHIRT ON A HOT DAY?

>> DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE DOING IN THE ACTIVITY. IF THEY ARE WORKING AND CLEANING THE APPARATUS THEY CAN USE THE T-SHIRT.

IF THEY ARE GOING TO CALLS, WE HAVE A BUTTON UP OVER THE TOP, OR A POLO. AND THAT DEPENDS ON WEATHER

CONDITIONS TOO. >> IS A CONTRACTUAL?

>> THAT IS POLICY. >> AND WE REVISIT THE POLICY, AND GIVEN THE ECONOMIC TIMES THAT WE ARE IN?

>> WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THE COSTS ARE AND WHAT WE ISSUED.

WE MADE THAT BIG CONVERSION, AND WE ARE SORT OF IN THEIR.

WHEN YOU LOOK DOWN THE LINE FOR UNIFORMS YOU WILL SEE THAT THAT IS PART OF THAT. THE ONGOING COST.

>> IT'S JUST A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.

IT'S NOT SMALL. >> I ON'T KNOW BASED ON CURRENT COSTS IF WE WILL GET TOO MUCH REWARD.

>> ARE UNIFORM REPLACEMENTS ON SCHEDULE, OR ON UTILITY?

>> SOME OF IT IS BASED ON SCHEDULE.

SO THEY WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

IN FACT, TODAY WE ARE SENDING UNITS OVER TO DO PERIODIC INSPECTIONS TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE BEATING WHAT WE NEED, AND IF THEY ARE, WE HAVE VENDORS THERE THAT CAN MEASURE AND A SIZE UP AND MAKE THE CHANGES. SO IT DEPENDS, IS THE ANSWER.

MOVING NOW, WE DID PUBLIC SAFETY UNIFORMS, WE HAVE THE VEHICLES FOR SPECIAL RESPONSE THAT OUR ONGOING REPLACEMENTS, THAT IS OUR MARINE UNITS, HAZMAT, TECHNICAL RESCUE.

SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUS, THAT IS A RECURRING ONE ALSO. WE ARE LOOKING AT MODIFICATIONS FOR FIRE STATION 13. WE ARE HAPPY TO DO SOME RENOVATIONS OF THAT EXISTING FACILITY.

CONVERSIONS, THAT IS ONE WE HAVE SAVED AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY ON.

WE ARE TAKING RESCUE UNITS AS THEY ARE ROTATED OUT OF SERVICE, WE TAKE THE BOX OFF OF IT AND UTILIZE THE SERVICE PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE AND PURCHASING EQUIPMENT, RECONSTRUCTED, REBUILT, BRUSH UNITS ON THOSE PLATFORMS SO WE CAN CONTINUE THE SERVICE LIFE WITH IT. AND THAT IS AN ONGOING PROGRAM.

TRAINING AND EQUIPMENT, THAT IS RECURRING EXPENSES.

WE HAVE SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING COMPRESSORS.

THAT IS GETTING NEW COMPRESSORS IN TO THE STATION LOCATIONS.

HAZMAT EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENTS AND SEARCH AND RESCUE, THE RESCUE TEAM THAT IS IN PLAY. THAT EQUIPMENT, NOT THE APPARATUS. THE EQUIPMENT IN THEIR ROPES AND METERS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

THE MOBILE DATA TERMINALS. KEEPING THE REPLACEMENT UP.

AND EDUCATIONAL ASSISTANTS. THAT IS CONTRACTUAL.

THAT'S TUITION REIMBURSEMENT. AND THAT'S TRAINING PROGRAMS, AS WELL AS THIS YEAR WE WILL HAVE EMS RECERTIFICATION TAKING PLACE. YES?

>> WE RECENTLY IMPLEMENTED A WHOLE BLOOD TRANSPORT.

WHAT MODIFICATION DO WE HAVE TO MAKE TO THE EMS TYPE?

>> WE DID IT USING OUR COMMUNITY PARAMEDIC UNIT THAT IS STAFFED 24 BY SEVEN. WE HAD TO PLAY SPECIAL EQUIPMENT ON TO THAT UNIT, INTO THAT INDIVIDUAL IS CHARGED WITH RESPONDING TO INCIDENTS, WHEN WE THINK THAT WE HAVE A TRAUMA THAT IT WOULD WORK, HE EITHER MEETS THE RESCUE UNIT OR GETS TO THE SCENE AND DELIVERS THE WHOLE BLOOD AND THE TRANSFUSION.

>> NOT ALL RESCUE UNITS? >> NOT ALL RESCUE UNIT.

>> IS THAT FROZEN BLOOD THAT HAS TO BE WARMED UP?

>> IT IS. AND WE HAVE TO HAVE EQUIPMENT THAT WILL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT AND SAW IT AND DELIVER IT TO

PATIENTS. >> THANK YOU.

THAT COMPLETES A MAJOR PROJECT. WE HAD SERVICE-LEVEL ADJUSTMENTS, WHICH WERE BLANK ON THERE, BUT I DRESS THAT PREVIOUSLY. ADMIN AND COLUMN.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS REPRESENTS WHERE WE SUPPORT THE UNITS.

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I'D POINT OUT THAT THE COMMUNITY PARAMEDIC FOLKS ARE FUNDED BY GRANT, SO THERE IS AN OFFSET FOR COST TO THOSE INDIVIDUAL MEM MEMBERS. IT IS BASICALLY FLAT YEAR-OVER-YEAR. OPERATING HAS REDUCED SLIGHTLY IF YOU LOOK AT IT. AND WE ARE NOT FORECASTING ANY CAPITAL AT THIS TIME. IF YOU LOOK BACK TO THAT COST, THERE ARE ABOUT 31 POSITIONS IN THERE.

31 AND A HALF WITH A PART-TIME OR IN TRAINING.

THEY SUPPORT THE UNIFORMED PERSONNEL, WHICH ARE SEVEN IN THAT SYSTEM. THERE ARE 14 DISPATCHERS AND TEN CIVILIANS. IN THAT MODEL, ALONG WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARAMEDICS AND FOLKS. THE FLORIDA CLEANING AND REMOVAL WAS THE DECEASED TRANSPORT PIECE.

THAT HAD TO BE STUCK THERE AND WE HAD IT IN OUR BUDGET FOR THAT. OUR PATIENT REPORTING SYSTEM.

BIG SCORE INVESTORS IS OUR PAIR MEDICINE SUITE LEASE.

WHERE WE ARE LOCATED, WHERE THE COMMUNITY PAIR MEDICINE PROGRAM OPERATES OUT OF. THAT'S A RENTAL COST FOR THAT,

AND WE HAVE A STORAGE UNIT. >> WE WERE LOOKING AT VACATING

THAT FACILITY AT THE COLLEGE? >> WE ARE, IF WE CAN.

ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES AT FIRE STATION 22 ON PINE AVENUE IS GETTING VACATED AND IT WOULD PROVIDE US WITH AN OPPORTUNITY

TO DO THAT. >> THE TIMELINE TO VACATE IS A

CONCERN AT THIS TIME? >> YOU HAVE A CURRENT LEASE.

YOU CANNOT GET OUT OF THE LEASE UNTIL IT EXPIRES.

SO IT IS MORE OF A LONG-TERM PLAN.

>> PROJECTING TO TERMINATE? >> WE HAVE TWO LEASES ON COLLEGE DRIVE. THE LEASE FOR THE GRANTS AND THE ESO OFFICE, WHICH EXPIRES SOONER THAN THE OTHER LEASE EXPIRES.

THAT ONE WE WILL LET GO. BUT YOU HAVE A SIGNED LEASE, AND SPEAKING OF LEGAL, I DON'T THINK THERE IS A PROVISION TO GET OUT OF THAT LEASE. ONE IS FOR PAIR MEDICINE AND

ONENESS FOR GRANTS. >> BEFORE WE LEAVE THE ADMIN SGROMOLO, I WANT TO EXTOLLED THE VIRTUES OF WHAT THE PARAMEDICS TEAM HAS WANTED TO DO. I THINK I BRUNN UNDERSTANDS THAT. YOU HAD A GOAL IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN TO INCREASE THE DISTRIBUTION OF NARCAN ACROSS THE COUNTY, BUT IT IS BROADER THAN THAT.

AND REUSE THAT IS THE BASIS OF HOW WERE FUNDING IT.

THEY ARE REALLY CHARGED WITH HELPING US TO REDUCE WHAT WE CONSIDER VULNERABLE CHARGES. YOU MAYBE SURPRISED AT THIS, BUT PROBABLY THE GREATEST CAUSE OF JURY IN CLAY COUNTY AT THE MOMENT HIS GRAVITY. WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT SEEM TO FALL A LOT. THEY SLIP OUT OF THEIR CHAIRS MAYBE. GOODNESS KNOWS WHAT OR HOW.

THEY ARE USUALLY INFIRMED SOMEHOW, AND THE COMMUNITY PAIR MEDICINE PROGRAM WORKS WITH THOSE WHO ARE VULNERABLE.

BECAUSE MANY OF THEM ARE REPEAT CALLERS.

THEY WILL CALL MAYBE MULTIPLE TIMES IN A WEEK, SOMETIMES MULTIPLE TIMES IN A DAY. AND GOD BLESS THOSE COMMUNITY MEDICINE RESPONDERS. THEY GO OUT AND WORK WITH THE INDIVIDUAL AND FAMILY MEMBERS TO ATTEMPT TO GET THEM IN A BETTER SITUATION LONG-TERM. AND I LISTENED TO MAYOR DEEGAN'S SPEECH YESTERDAY AS SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT HER BUDGET.

AND SHE TALKED ABOUT THE NEED TO GET OUT TO IMPROVE HEALTH IN THE COMMUNITY. HEALTH CARE IN-- DEFERRED ENSURES THAT WE ARE RESPONDING TO THAT ONCE OR TWICE, OR THREE TIMES. YOUR COMMUNITY PAIR MEDICINE IS INTEGRAL IN ENSURING THAT WE CAN HELP REDUCE THE FIRE PREVENTION

ARM OF HEALTH CARE. >> I HAVE A QUESTION CONCERNING THIS. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT GRAVITY, AND FALLS, WE RESPOND QUITE A BIT TO ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES.

>> WE DO. >> BUT WE DO NOT CHARGE THEM.

>> WE DO NOT CHARGE AT THAT POINT.

THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT AND LOOKED AT.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE WOULD DO BOTH LEGALLY AND THROUGH THE SYSTEM OF THE STATE THAT ALLOWS US TO-- WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT CHARGE FOR. BUT THAT IS CERTAINLY AN OPTION

TO BRING BACK TO YOU. >> ONE OF THE TALKING POINTS WE

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HAD-- >> I THINK IT'S A VALID POINT.

OTHERS ARE DOING IT. THE QUESTION IS HOW WE DO IT AND

HOW DO WE DO IT WELL. >> I HAD THAT WRITTEN DOWN TOO.

I KNOW CHARLOTTE COUNTY DOES IT, AND I DEFINITELY THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO IT. AND I THINK THAT LEGISLATIVELY, OUR DELEGATION IS READY TO WORK WITH US ON THAT.

I HAVE SOME LANGUAGE DRAFTED THAT I STARTED TALKING TO SENATOR BRADLEY ABOUT TO MAKE THAT STATE WIDE, BECAUSE THAT IS AN ISSUE. ONE OF THOSE UNFUNDED MANDATES,

RIGHT? >> IT IS A CHALLENGE.

AS POPULATIONS AGE, AND CLAY COUNTY HAS A SUBSTANTIAL ELDERLY POPULATION, THERE HAVE TO BE LOCATIONS THAT CAN ASSIST, AND THERE ARE SITUATIONS IN OUR PERSONAL LIVES WHERE WE HAVE HAD FAMILY MEMBERS GOING INTO CARE FACILITIES.

YOU HOPE THAT CARE FACILITY IS STAFFED AND EQUIPPED TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. NOT ALL OF THEM ARE, AND SOMETIMES WHEN THEY CANNOT THAT COMES IN THE FORM OF A NEED FOR US. BUT WE ARE ALSO THE APPROPRIATE RESPONSE ENTITY FOR WHEN THERE IS A MEDICAL EMERGENCY AT THOSE FACILITIES. FOR US WE NEED TO GO THERE AND EVALUATE THE PATIENT TO SEE IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES TRANSPORT TO A HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE, OR IF WE ARE JUST ASSISTING IN SOME WAY WITH THE CARE FOR THE PATIENT AT THAT LOCATION. AND THAT IS THE DICHOTOMY YOU

HAVE WITHIN THAT CHALLENGE. >> BUT THERE IN CHOOSING TO NOT PURCHASE-- IT IS PERSONAL FOR ME.

MY MOTHER WAS LEFT LAYING ON THE FLOOR UNTIL RESCUE CAME.

SO IT IS VERY PERSONAL TO ME. BUT SHE WAS LEFT LYING THERE.

NO ONE TRIED TO HELP. BECAUSE THEY CALLED 911, AND IN WAITING TO-- FOR THEM TO COME-- BUT THIS IS REALLY MORE ABOUT-- I WILL NOT NAME THE PERSON. BUT THERE IS A FIREFIGHTER IN CLAY COUNTY THAT SAID TO ME THAT NURSING HOMES IN CLAY COUNTY ARE NOT SAFE FOR RESIDENTS WHO HAVE FALL ISSUES.

AND PUBLIC SAFETY IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS COUNTY.

AND I THINK THIS IS SO IMPORTANT FOR OUR ELDERLY.

THEY ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE. IF YOU CANNOT GO TO AND ASSISTED-LIVING REHAB OR NURSING HOME, AND YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHICH ONE-- YOU HAVE TO DOVE-- DEPEND ON YOUR FAMILY MEMBER TO KNOW SOMEBODY, TO KNOW WHICH ONE IS OKAY TO GO TO.

AND IF YOU HAVE MONEY, THEY ARE CHARGING YOU FOR HUNDRED $50 PER DAY. IF YOU DON'T HAVE MONEY, THEN YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO GO TO SOME OF THEM.

I THINK IT IS A MORE COMPLEX ISSUE, BUT FROM A COUNTY STANDPOINT, WE HAVE TWO RESPONSIBILITIES.

ONE, THE FUNDING THAT WE ARE SPENDING MONEY TO GO INTO.

BECAUSE THEY ARE CHOOSING TO NOT STAFFER NOT BUY EQUIPMENT.

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO OUR RESIDENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THEY NEED ASSISTANCE OUTSIDE OF OUR HOME-- THEIR HOME, THAT THERE ARE SAFE PLACES TO GO.

>> YES, AND I COMMEND YOU. IT IS REALLY A STATE AND LOCAL PROBLEM. FOR US, WE RESPOND TO THE INCIDENT. AND WE CAN SEE SOME THINGS, BECAUSE WE DO WORK WITH THOSE LOCATIONS.

I KNOW SHE FERRERA HAS BEEN AT EVERY FACILITY IN THE COUNTY.

BUT THE OTHER SIDE OF IT IS THAT WE HAVE SEEN A PROLIFERATION OF THOSE FACILITIES COMING IN. AND NOT ALL ARE THE SAME.

BUT ALL SOMEHOW INCREASED DEMAND FOR SERVICE THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS. STATION ONE GOING AND DOWN THE ROAD TO A NUMBER OF THOSE FACILITIES IS GOING TO BE A HELP IN RELIEVING SOME OF THAT BURDEN, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO

DECREASE THE BURDEN. >> PART OF THIS DISCUSSION IS CNA IS REQUIRED TO WORK THOSE FACILITIES AND I THINK THAT THE TRAINING REQUIRES FALL ASSISTANCE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. IF THE ORGANIZATION IS NOT PROVIDING THAT, THEN WHY ARE WE PAYING FOR THAT?

>> I THINK WE'VE SEEN A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE POST COVID.

THAT IS WHERE-- I WILL NOT CALL IT EXPLOSIVE GROWTH, BUT AS CLOSE TO IT, HAS BEEN. OUR DATA CLEARLY SHOWS IT.

>> SORRY TO BREAK IN. WE ARE GETTING IN TO AND HOUR.

AND WE ARE ON PAGE 12. WE HAVE 41 PAGES.

>> I CAN STOP RIGHT NOW. >> IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT.

I'M JUST WETTING YOU KNOW I HAVE A JOB I HAVE TO GET TO THIS AFTERNOON. I CANNOT BE HERE ALL DAY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE IT FASTER.

BUT WE PROBABLY HAVE TO DO THAT. >> I'M DONE WITH THAT AND LESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. THIS IS FIRE PREVENTION.

FIRE PREVENTION IS BROKEN UP SEPARATELY FOR THE PERSONNEL THAT ARE IN THERE. THEY OBVIOUSLY DO OUR PLANS,

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THE GOAL FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS TO INSPECT 100% UPPAL HIGH OCCUPANCY BUILDINGS. THAT'S WHAT THE GOAL IS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE BELIEVE THE FUNDING WILL PROVIDE FOR.

>> IS THERE A FEE FOR THAT? >> THERE ARE SOME FEES THAT ARE APPLIED BOTH ON REVIEW AND THE ANNUALS.

>> SO THE PERMIT REQUIRES A FIRE INSPECTOR IN THE BUILDING?

>> YES. THE CONTRACT IS SIMPLE.

NFPA IS THE CODE COMPLIANCE WORK.

WE DO HAVE ANOTHER PIECE ON THERE THAT GOES BACK TO OUR PLEA-- PREPLANNED PIECE. BUT THOSE ARE INCORPORATED IN TO YOUR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY SECTION THAT YOU SEE THERE.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE BILLING AND

EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS STACY MARTIN. I SERVE AS THE BUILDING MANAGER FOR CLAY COUNTY. OUR ABILITY-- BILLING DIVISION IS SIX FTE'S. MY BILLING SHOWS THE COUNTY RECOVERS REVENUE UP TO IT FROM AMBULANCE SERVICES, WORKING DIRECTLY WITH SERVICE PROVIDERS, PATIENCE AND BILLING SYSTEMS TO KEEP THAT PROCESS ACCURATE, TIMELY AND FAIR.

IN PLAIN TERMS, WHEN SOMEONE CALLS 911 AND GETS AN AMBULANCE RIDE, WE ARE THE ONES MAKING SURE THAT THE COUNTY GETS PROPERLY REIMBURSED FOR THE SERVICE.

SO THE FUNDS CAN GO RIGHT BACK INTO SUPPORTING OPERATIONS AND RESIDENTS. TOGETHER WE PROCESS ABOUT 16,000 ANNUAL TRANSPORT CLAIMS EACH YEAR, WHILE ADHERING TO HEPA AND APPLICABLE LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL BILLING REGULATIONS.

OUR FEES ARE SET AND APPROVED BY THIS BOARD.

ON THE COLLECTION SIDE, OUR TEAM WORKS ACROSS FOUR PAIRED CATEGORIES. COMMERCIAL INSURANCE, WORKER'S COMPENSATION, AND SELF-PAY ACCOUNTS.

AMBULANCE CLAIMS ARE COMPETITIVE BY NATURE.

THE PAIR THAT RECEIVES AN ACCURATE CLAIM FIRST IS NOT ALWAYS THE CLAIM THAT GETS PAID FIRST.

LOOKING AT THE SLIDE, OUR PERSONAL POLICY HAS STAYED FAIRLY FLAT AND IS DIPPING SOME FOR THE PROJECTED YEAR.

OPERATING COSTS ARE A BIG DRIVER OF GROWTH INDICATION.

AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE JUMP FROM 585,000 TO THE PROPOSED 797. AND CAPITAL AND OTHER COSTS AT ZERO. NEXT SLIDE.

WE CURRENTLY MANAGE THREE MAJOR CONTRACTS.

ONE IS PMT, WHICH IS THE PUBLIC EMERGENCY MEDICAL TRANSPORTATION. IT'S A STATE SUPPLEMENTAL REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM AVAILABLE TO PUBLICLY OWNED OR OPERATING EMS AGENCIES, FOR THE GAP BETWEEN WHAT MEDICARE NORMALLY PAYS FOR EMERGENCY TRANSPORTS AND THEIR ACTUAL COST.

WE HAVE OPTIMIZATION REVENUE LLC, A THIRD-PARTY VENDOR THAT COMPILES OUR TRANSPORT INFORMATION AND SUBMITS IT ON OUR BEHALF TO ENSURE WE RECEIVE THE MAXIMUM RETURN ON OUR TRANSPORTS AND HELP OFFSET THE COST TO THE COUNTY.

ALSO OUR CONTRACT WITH UNITED HEALTH CARE, CONTRACTED TO US THROUGH THE EMT PARTICIPATION. SLIDE? SOME AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY. ADOPT A FORMER RIGHT OFF POLICY.

THIS LETS US ACTIVELY IDENTIFY CURRENTLY UNCOLLECTED REVENUE AND ESTABLISH A MEASURABLE BASELINE FOR RECOVERY.

IT IS AN INTERNAL ACCOUNTING AND REPORTING TOOL ONLY.

IT WOULD NOT CHANGE HOW WE RECEIVE ACTIVE ACCOUNTS.

NUMBER 2 IS TO CONTRACT WITH THE COLLECTION AGENCY AT A LOW OR NO COST TO THE COUNTY TO PURSUE ACCOUNTS ONCE THEY HAVE PASSED OUR INTERNAL 18 MONTH COLLECTION WINDOW.

ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF OF IN-HOUSE HANDLING AND AGENDA COLLECTIONS. SO REVENUE IS ESSENTIALLY WRITTEN OFF ONCE OUR OWN EFFORTS ARE EXHAUSTED.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> ONE OF THE TAKEAWAYS IS WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE ASSISTED-LIVING CHARGES.

>> THANK YOU. ON DECK IS REAL ESTATE.

>> TIMOTHY DEVON, DIRECTOR FROM EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

OUR DEPARTMENT IS TASKED WITH ENSURING THAT THE ENTIRE COUNTY, HE FOUR MUNICIPALITIES AND SUPPORTING AGENCIES ARE ABLE TO PREVENT, PREPARE FOR, RESPOND TO, RECOVER FROM AND MITIGATE AGAINST ANY MAJOR EVENT OR DISASTER THAT MAY IMPACT THE COUNTY. ANYTHING FROM A TORNADO, HURRICANE, MAJOR DEBRIS AFTER A STORM, WILDFIRE, OR EVEN THE 12

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EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WAS STAFFED BEFORE-- WITH FOUR FTES IN THIS BUDGET HERE WITH ONE POSITION BEING ELIMINATED FROM A VACANCY LAST MONTH. OUR AVERAGE FOR THIS CATEGORY HAS BEEN BETWEEN 455 TO 461,000 AS SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE.

LAST YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO OFFSET SOME OF THE PERSONAL COSTS BY UTILIZING SOME LEFTOVER GRANT FUNDS.

THAT SHOWS ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE THAT IT WAS FOR 61 ORIGINALLY, AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET IT DOWN TO 368, 582.

WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO USE GRANT FUNDS AGAIN THIS YEAR AS WELL. HOWEVER, MOVING FORWARD THERE MAY NOT BE THIS OPPORTUNITY. THE 376722 ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THE SLIDE IS SHOWING THE REDUCTION OF ONE FTE.

EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. I'M GOING TO STAY ON THIS SLIDE.

IT CURRENTLY HAS TWO PROJECTS. CONSTRUCTION OF AN OVERHANG BEHIND THE EEOC TO PROVIDE COVERAGE AND PROTECTION FOR THE TRAILER ASSETS FROM THE ELEMENTS TO PROLONG THEIR LIFE AS SHOWN ON THE CAPITAL LINE ITEM ABOVE. THE SECOND PROJECT IS OUR PLANNING PROJECT TO PUT CLAY COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT'S PROGRAM IN A POSITION TO THE MAP ACCREDITED.

THIS PROJECT IS REWRITING AND ALIGNING ALL 60 DISASTER PLANS THAT RESIDE WITHIN CLAY COUNTY. IT ALSO PUTS ALL OF THE PLANS IN COMPLIANCE WITH FEDERAL GRANTS AND STATE STATUTES.

THE LAST CATEGORY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SLIDES IS OUR OPERATING FUNDS. IN THE CURRENT FY 2025-2026 BUDGET, AFTER REMOVING THE PROJECTS I SPOKE ABOUT, 52,000 IS LEFT TO ENSURE THAT THE ENTIRE COUNTY'S PREPAREDNESS WITH EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES FOR THE EEOC'S READINESS.

STORAGE, MATERIAL TO PUSH OUT FOR FLOOD ZONES AND COMMUNITY PREPAREDNESS. WEATHER STATIONS.

EXTRA RADIO CACHES. SUPPLIES FOR SHELTERS.

ENSURING WE HAVE TRAINED STAFF FOR EEOC ACTIVATION.

IT TAKES ABOUT 120 COUNTY STAFF MEMBERS FOR APRIL ACTIVATION FOR 112 HOUR SHIFT. IF WE ARE FULLY ACTIVATED THAT IS ABOUT 360 TRAINED COUNTY PEOPLE WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THAT DISASTER. LAST YEAR'S BUDGET WE WERE CUT 77,000 FROM OUR OPERATING BUDGET WITH AN ADDITIONAL 124,000 CUT FROM OUR OPERATING BUDGET THIS YEAR.

LOOKING FORWARD TO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, WE SEE AN ADDITIONAL REDUCTION IN THE OPERATING FUND, IN ADDITION TO THE REDUCTION IN THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT STAFF FOUR FROM DOWN TO THREE.

THERE ARE SEVERAL STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROGRAM THAT INCLUDE OUR COMPREHENSIVE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN.

IDENTIFICATION AND RISK ASSESSMENTS, AND A GREATER PREPAREDNESS PLANNING WORKSHOPS. ALL HAZARDS PLANS, OUR LOCAL MITIGATION STRATEGY, ALL THE HEALTH CARE AND APPROVALS COME THROUGH OUR OFFICE. SHELTER READINESS FOR GENERAL POPULATION. SPECIAL NEEDS, AND PET FRIENDLY.

MAINTAINING OUR SPECIAL-NEEDS DATABASE, COMPLIANCE WITH DDP, COMPLIANCE WITH CRS, THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM FOR-- FOR OUR FLOOD. INSURANCE.

IN ADDITION TO OUR ANNUAL EXERCISES AND TRAINING TO NAME A FEW. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

I SPOKE ON THE LOWER ONE WITH THE PROJECTS.

THE UPPER PORTION OF THE SLIDE. IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WE PIGGYBACK ON A LOT OF PEOPLE'S PROGRAMS. FOR INSTANCE, WE USE TYLER TO COLLECT THE FEES FROM OUR-- REVIEW FOR DCE MPS FOR HEALTH CARE.

OUR SOFTWARE IS THE DAMAGE ASSESSMENT SOFTWARE THAT WE UTILIZE. WEB EEOC EVERBRIDGE AND OUR SPECIAL-NEEDS DATABASE ARE FUNDED THROUGH THE STATE.

LAST YEAR THE STATE ALMOST DID NOT PICK UP THE TAB FOR WEB EEOC. SO IN THE COUNTY WE'VE HAD TO MAKE THE DECISION IF WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE.

AND THAT IS THE PROGRAM THAT WE USE IN THE EEOC WHEN WE ACTIVATE FOR ALL POSITIONS TO DOCUMENT ANYTHING THAT GOES ON.

ORDERING SUPPLIES, EQUIPMENT, RESPONDERS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. IT IS ALSO PART OF THE SOFTWARE WE USE TO GET REIMBURSEMENT. THAT IS MY REPORT PENDING ANY

QUESTIONS. >> EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLANS.

YOU HAVE 67 COUNTIES. THEY ARE ALL FAIRLY SIMILAR.

I WOULD IMAGINE? >> THAT IS CORRECT.

HISTORICALLY WE HAVE USED OTHER COUNTIES PLANS AND CHANGED THE NAME. HOWEVER, AT A CERTAIN POINT IN TIME WE HAD TO BUILD A CROSSWALK WITH THOSE 60 PLANS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WITHIN CLAY COUNTY WAS SPOKE OF.

>> THE REGIONAL COUNCIL IS INTEGRATED IN THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ARENA. WHY CAN'T WE COLLATE, COLLABORATE. AND GET ONE ENTITY TO RIGHT 67

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>> WE DID PUT THIS OUT TO BID AND THE PLANNING COUNCIL CAME AND MET WITH US. AND THEY DID NOT PUT IN A BID.

IT WAS TOO BIG OF A SCOPE FOR THEM TO TAKE ON.

SO WE MET WITH BETH AND HER TEAM TO TRY TO SEE IF WE COULD GO THAT ROUTE. SINCE THEY ARE A CAUSE ICE STATE AGENCY. BUT THEY COULD NOT TAKE THAT ON.

SO WE HAD TO PUT IT OUT TO BID FOR OTHERS.

WHICH WE DO HAVE ONE THAT IS RIDING-- RIDING THAT.

IT'S A THREE-YEAR PROJECT TO REWRITE ALL 60 PLANS.

BUT THEY HAVE 12 PEOPLE WORKING ON JUST THIS ONE PARTICULAR PROJECT TO ALIGN THE PLANS. AND IT IS MEETING THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS, THE STATE REQUIREMENTS.

THE STATE STATUTE. THE MITIGATION STRATEGY.

IT IS TYING ALL THAT TOGETHER, AND IT WILL PUT US IN A POSITION TO BE KNOWN AS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ACCREDITED.

WHEN WE GET REIMBURSEMENT FROM A DISASTER, WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE PLANS IN PLACE.

AND HISTORICALLY WE HAVE NOT BEEN ACCREDITED IN THIS COUNTY.

>> THANK YOU. >> TIM, QUESTION FOR YOU.

FROM THE PARTNERS WITH FIRE RESCUE AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE MULTIPLE ROLES WHEN THE EEOC GETS ACTIVATED. LIKE IN TERMS OF YOUR TEAM, ESSENTIALLY. THAT MAYBE ARE NOT FULL-TIME EM EMPLOYEES, BUT WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT OF NEEDING THEM, WHAT

DOES NOT LOOK LIKE? >> I WON'T GET TOO FAR IN DEPTH.

BUT I'LL TRY TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

I AM THE INCIDENT COMMANDER. I'M DOING THE POLITICAL SIDE, THE MESSAGING, THE MEDIA. MY OTHER STAFF MEMBERS ARE RUNNING EEOC. THEY ARE IN CHARGE OF THE WHOLE EEOC. ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS FILL IN THOSE GAPS FROM THERE. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SHERIFF'S OFFICE ASSISTS WITH THE OPERATIONS SECTION.

THEY ASSIST WITH THE PLANNING SECTION.

I WILL POINT OUT A CHANGE THAT WE HAD.

WHEN GABBY WAS HERE AS THE DIRECTOR FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES, THEY HANDLED OUR HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES BRANCH.

WHEN THAT WENT AWAY WE ARE NOW TRAINING WITH THE LIBRARIES TO NOW DO THAT PARTICULAR FUNCTION. SO WE ARE TRAINING HER AND HER STAFF TO BE ABLE TO ACTIVATE. THAT PARTICULAR BRANCH RUNS ANYTHING THAT DEALS WITH SHELTERS, ANIMAL SERVICES.

ALL THE SHELTERS. THE SCHOOLS AND EVERYTHING.

SO WE ARE HAVING TO ENSURE THAT ALL THOSE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO FILL THOSE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS. BUT THERE ARE LOGISTICS.

HEALTH AND MEDICALS, THE HEALTH AND STAFF AS WELL.

IT IS TRULY A COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP.

BUT IF YOU LOOKED AT, WE TRAIN ABOUT 80 PEOPLE EVERY YEAR.

THERE ARE 360 PEOPLE, IT TAKES ABOUT FIVE YEARS TO TRAIN EVERYBODY TO OPERATE IN THE EEOC.

BUT YOU KNOW HOW TURNOVER IS. I'M KONSA LEE FIGHTING THAT BATTLE. HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR

QUESTION. >> THANK YOU.

>> ON DECK. >> BUILDING MAINTENANCE AND

GROUND MAINTENANCE. >> AND MORNING, MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. I AM THE REAL ESTATE AND CONSERVATION MANAGER. THE REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT IS SMALL. IT'S CRUCIALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT SUPPORTS AND PARTNERS WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO FULFILL SEVERAL KEY GOALS WITHIN THE STRATEGIC PLAN IMPROVING PUBLIC SAFETY, INCREASING WASTE PRODUCT-- WASTE PROCESSING CAPACITY AND INCREASING RECREATIONAL SPACE.

AND THIS IS ACHIEVING THE SITE FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS AND ACTIVE OVERSIGHTS. CORE SERVICES THAT YOU SEE THERE. ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY, AS MENTIONED, PROJECTS AND FACILITIES.

PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, AND THE DISPOSITION OF COUNTY PROPERTY THAT IS NO LONGER NEEDED FOR CURRENT OR PROJECTED FUTURE USE.

NEXT SLIDE. YOU SEE THE ONE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE, THIS IS WITH MANAGEMENT OF VETERANS PART.

AND THAT PROPOSAL IS UNDER REVIEW.

NEXT SLIDE. THE PRIMARY CHANGE WE CAN MAKE GOING FORWARD IS TO FOCUS ON OPTIMIZING THE COUNTY'S PORTFOLIO FOR LONG-TERM VALUE AND REVENUE POTENTIAL AND PRODUCTION. IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THIS WE NEED TO NEGOTIATE MARKET COMPETITIVE LEASE RATES.

SOLICIT PROPOSALS FOR REDEVELOPMENT OR IMPROVE USE OF COUNTY DEVELOPMENT. ADDITIONALLY WE CAN TRIM UNNEEDED PROPERTIES FROM OUR PORTFOLIO AND RETAIN PROPERTIES THAT BENEFIT US GOING FORWARD. AND FINALLY WE NEED TO LOOK TO ACQUIRE NEW SITES AND FACILITIES AND EXPAND SERVICES.

WE NEED TO ADJUST OUR THINKING. PURCHASE SITES THAT AFFORD OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUTURE EXPANSION.

CONSOLIDATE USES, AND POTENTIAL REVENUE PRODUCING USES AS WELL.

OVER TIME THESE CHANGES WILL HELP TO BUILD AND STRENGTHEN OUR

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THANK YOU, I LOOK FORWARD TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

>> UNFORTUNATELY, JEAN HAD A FAMILY EMERGENCY.

HE WAS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO HANDLE IT THE BEST I CAN.

AND I HAVE SOME TEAM MEMBERS HERE IF WE GET DEEP IN THE QUESTIONS. THIS IS REALLY ABOUT MAINTAINING YOUR FACILITIES AND DOING THE CLEANING OF THE BUILDINGS THAT THE COUNTY OWES. THERE IS A SLIGHT UPTICK.

WE ARE ADDING MORE BUILDINGS, TAKING ON MORE MAINTENANCE OF THE GROUNDS. CUSTODIAL WORK.

THOSE KIND OF OPERATIONS. OPERATING IS GOING UP BECAUSE ELECTRICITY IS PAID FOR OUT OF THIS BUDGET.

AS WE ADD MORE BUILDINGS THERE IS AN ANTICIPATED COST OF ELECTRICITY. WATER CHARGES, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUILDING WHICH WE BACK CHARGE AT THE END OF THE YEAR, AND THE AVAILABLE SOURCES BUILDING WILL BE AN INCREASED ELECTRICAL CHARGE. OF COURSE.

CAPITAL, REDUCING THE CAPITAL EXPENSES DOWN THIS YEAR.

THERE IS NOT A LOT OF BIG MEMBERS IN THIS BUDGET.

THE BUDGET HAS GONE UP, MAINLY DUE TO THE COST OF ELECTRICITY, WATER AND HAVING MORE BUILDINGS. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CONTRACT, WE DID HAVE ON THEIR THE GENERAL FUND UTILITY BILLS.

THAT IS 1.4 MILLION OF THE BUDGET.

I WILL NOT READ ALL THESE. IF THERE IS A QUESTION ON ONE OF THEM, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER IT.

>> HOW LONG IS THE LEAST? >> IT IS A LONG-TERM LEASE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MORE EARS WE HAVE ON THE LEASE.

I THINK THE THING HERE IS THAT THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION ON DO WE-- WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS BEFOREHAND, SERVICES NEED TO BE EXPANDED AT SOME POINT, BECAUSE THE REQUIREMENTS, THERE IS FOUR PEOPLE. THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY PURCHASE THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD THEN OF COURSE MOVE IT TO THE EXPENSE, AND THE GENERAL FUND WOULD NOT PAY FOR RENT. I THINK THAT IS A CONVERSATION TO HAVE IN THE FUTURE WITH THE BOARD.

I THINK CALEB HAS IT ON THE AUGUST AGENDA.

>> THE LEASE IS EXPIRING AND I KNOW THE OWNER IS THINKING ABOUT SELLING THE PROPERTY. THAT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY AND A CHALLENGE. WE MAY NOT GET A RENEWAL OF THE LEASE, OR WE MAY BUY THE BUILDING.

I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW. >> OR YOU MAY HAVE AN INCREASE IN EXPENSES IF YOU HAVE TO EXPAND AND POSSIBLY EXPAND SOMEWHERE ELSE AT MARKET RATE. WE WILL DEFINITELY BE BRINGING THAT TO YOU IN AUGUST AS A DISCUSSION POINT.

>> THANK YOU. >> OTHER MAJOR PROJECTS ARE LISTED UP HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. THE ONE ITEM WE HAD ON AT THE SERVICE LEVEL ADJUSTMENT WOULD BE TO LOOK AT POTENTIALLY ELIMINATING THAT LEASE AND DOING SOMETHING WITH THE PROPERTY.

BEFORE I MOVE TO GROUNDS MAINTENANCE, ANY QUESTIONS ON FACILITY MAINTENANCE? ALL RIGHT.

>> ON DECK IS GROUNDS MAINTENANCE FROM PARKS AND REC.

>> THE FUNCTION OF GROUNDS MAINTENANCE IS TO MAINTAIN THE GROUNDS THAT ALL YOUR PARKS AND COUNTY FACILITIES.

THIS INCLUDES TREE TRIMMING, GRASS CUTTING.

FENCE, REPAIRS, ALL THOSE ITEMS. PERSONNEL IS KIND OF STABILIZED THIS YEAR VERSUS LAST YEAR. OPERATING IS GOING UP A BIT.

WE HAVE FENCING AND THE THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

CAPITAL IS GOING DOWN. WE ARE NOT PURCHASING ANY NEW LAWN MOWERS. THERE WAS SOME BUDGETING WE DID NOT MIND LAST YEAR. THAT WAS IN SOURCE AND OUTSOURCE AS WE DISCUSSED. OVERALL THE BUDGET HAS STAYED RELATIVELY FLAT YEAR-OVER-YEAR. THESE ARE THE MAIN CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE IN GROUNDS MAINTENANCE.

MOWING IS SPLIT ACROSS DIFFERENT CONTRACTS.

WE HAVE OUR COUNTY BUILDINGS, LAWN MEDICS.

THE TREATMENTS OF THE VARIOUS PARKS.

MAJOR COST, WE HAVE ON HE SET ASIDE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET FOR TREE TRIMMING AS NEEDED AND FOR COUNTYWIDE FENCING OPERATIONS.

WE CREATED PROJECTS FOR THOSE FROM A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE SO WE CAN, WHEN YOU ASK HOW MUCH TREE TRIMMING WE DID WE CAN GIVE YOU A NUMBER. THAT IS ENCAPSULATED ACROSS MANY PROJECTS AND MANY FUNDS. AND SERVICE LEVEL ADJUSTMENTS, THERE ARE SEVERAL IN HERE. GO-AHEAD.

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>> WEEKLY EMPLOYEE UNIFORM RENTALS?

WEEKLY? >> YES, THERE ARE UNIFORMS THAT THEY GET SIX UNIFORMS, IF I'M WRONG, LET ME KNOW.

AND THEY ROTATE HALF OF THEM EACH WEEK.

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> IT'S BEYOND THAT.

THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY IS GROUNDS MAINTENANCE.

THIS ONE,. [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> IT'S MORE THAN JUST THE CUSTODIANS.

>> MY QUESTION IS NEW UNIFORMS OR ARE WE CLEANING THEM?

>> IT IS BOTH. IF THEY-- THE GENERAL CYCLE IS IF YOU HAVE 11, YOU GET FIVE OF THEM.

THEY GET FIVE THIS WEEK THE NEXT FIVE COME BACK.

IT'S PRIMARILY THE LAUNDERING OF THE UNIFORMS.

>> WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. WHY CAN'T THEY WASH THEIR OWN CLOTHES? THAT'S WHAT I DO.

>> IT'S JUST BEEN FOREVER THAT WE'VE DONE THAT.

>> WE HAVE DONE THAT FOR AS LONG AS WE HAVE HAD UNIFORMS. AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN HERE. I APPRECIATE YOU POINTING IT OUT ON THIS ONE, BUT THIS IS IN SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS.

SO IF THAT'S A DISCUSSION WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, I'M HAPPY TO LOOK INTO IT. THIS ONE IS JUST GROUNDS MAINTENANCE. BUT I WOULD SAY THAT IF WE GO BACK TO FACILITIES, IT'S AND FACILITIES ALSO.

BECAUSE IT'S A NUMBER FOR FACILITIES.

I THINK YOU WILL SEE THAT IN OUR BUDGETS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

>> I WANT TO LOOK AT THAT. >> I WILL PUT IT ON THE LIST.

AT THIS POINT, IF IT IS-- IF YOU'RE GOING TO-- YES?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. WHEN YOU HIGHLIGHT A SENTENCE, AND YOU CLARIFY FOR ME ON PA PAGE 25, THE SCENT THIS FIRE IS

$96,000? >> THAT'S DIFFERENT.

THAT IS FOR OUR FIRE ALARMS AND SPRINKLERS SYSTEMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IF YOU GO TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT PAGE AND LOOK AT THE UNIFORMS, THAT'S WHAT I THINK THE COMMISSIONER IS REFERRING TO. THE SAME COMPANY DOES DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS. I WANTED TO BREAK IT UP IN HERE SO IT'S CLEAR THE TRUE FUNCTIONS.

>> THANK YOU. >> YES.

AND IF I COULD, I KNOW JUSTIN IS ON DECK.

I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THESE ADJUSTMENTS THAT THE GROUNDS HAVE REPRESENTED. MOST OF THEM AFFECT PARKS.

SO I WILL DEFER TO JUSTIN ON THE IMPACT OF THE PARKS AS WE GO THROUGH THAT IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

THESE ARE SERVICE LEVEL ADJUSTMENTS THAT GROUNDS MAINTENANCE CAME UP WITH. INCLUDING REDUCING THE MOWING OF PARKS AND COUNTY PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

POSSIBLY GOING DOWN FROM DIRTY ONE CUTS TO A LESSER NUMBER.

HAVING THE ASSOCIATIONS TAKE ON MORE OF THE LOAD OF MOWING AND TREATMENTS. THE COUNTY HAD DONE THAT AT ONE POINT IN TIME. MOVED AWAY FROM IT.

REDUCING THE TREATMENTS ON THE TURF, ON DIFFERENT PARTS.

AND MOVING THE SERVICE AT FACILITIES THAT DO NOT HAVE TRUE STAND-ALONE BATHROOMS. AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, LIKE I SAID, I WOULD DEFER TO JUSTIN. THEY ARE IMPACTING HIS

OPERATIONS. >> JUSTIN PETERS.

>> DO YOU WANT TO ROLL RIGHT IN TO PARKS?

>> JUSTIN, BEFORE YOU DO. JUSTIN WILL TAKE US THROUGH TO PAM ON THE SLIDES. ON DECK WILL BE LIBRARIES.

>> THANK YOU, JUSTIN. DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC.

OUR MISSION IS TO PROVIDE HIGH-QUALITY PARKS AND RECREATION FOR THOSE WITH ACTIVE LIFESTYLES TO PRESERVE OUR NATIONAL RESOURCES IN CLAY COUNTY.

WE HAVE ALIGNED OUR DEPARTMENT WITH OUR NATIONAL RESOURCE ASSOCIATIONS TO DO COMMUNITY BUILDING AND EQUITY.

TO HELP WITH WELL-BEING OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND ECONOMIC IMPACT.

OUR DEPARTMENT OVERVIEW OVERSEAS 63 PARK LOCATIONS.

SORRY. IS THAT BETTER? WE OVERSEE 44 PARK LOCATIONS THAT ARE ACTIVE PARKS AND 19 OF THEM ARE UNDEVELOPED PARCELS THAT WE CURRENTLY OWN AND MAINTAIN. SOME OTHER FACILITIES WE OVERSEE ARE THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE RENTALS.

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SOME OF OUR NOTABLE PARKS, RONNIE VAN ZANDT PARK, THE MARINA PROGRAM AND THE REGIONAL SPORTS COMPLEX.

WE MANAGE 21 LEASES, EIGHT OF THOSE ARE ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION LEASES. AT LEAST-- AT LEAST NINE OF OUR PARTS. AND WE HAVE A TEAM OF 18 STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE BROKEN DOWN THROUGHOUT THE VARIOUS CALL CENTERS. GOING WITH THE SLIDES, WHEN WE SEE THE INCREASE YEAR-OVER-YEAR AND OPERATING, AND THAT'S DUE TO THE OPERATING PROJECTS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED IN THE PARK SYSTEM MASTER PLAN. WHICH KEEPS UP WITH OUR STRATEGIC GOALS AND IMPACT FEES. SO SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS SURFACING, RONNIE VAN ZANDT, PAUL ARMSTRONG, THOSE COURTS ARE DETERIORATING. SO THE REPLACEMENT AND RESURFACING OF THOSE COURTS ARE PROJECTS THAT YOU SEE, LIKE THAT NUMBER. AS WELL AS OTHER PROJECTS LIKE COMMUNITY SUNSHADES. OUR CORE SERVICES, WE PROVIDE PROGRAMS, ATHLETIC PARTNERSHIPS, RENTALS IN OUR FACILITIES AND TRAILS. ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE THE NEXT SLIDE? ALL RIGHT.

OUR MAJOR CALM-- CONTRACT IS OUR LAND LEASE WITH THE ARENA.

THAT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THE STATE.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CONTRACTS? SOME OF OUR PROJECTS, AS YOU SEE, THE AVENUE, THE 88 PLAYGROUND WE HAVE IN CLAY COUNTY, THE LIFE CYCLE OF A PLAYGROUND IS A TO TEN YEARS.

THAT PLAYGROUND HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 2012.

AND IT IS THE ONLY PLAYGROUND THAT HAS A POULIN-- A IN-PLACE SERVICE FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH MOBILITY IMPAIRMENT TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE ALL THE PARK EQUIPMENT IN THE WHEELCHAIR.

SO, ON THAT-- THAT NUMBER IS SUB SURFACING.

AND THE UNDER DRAINAGES HALF OF THAT CALL AMENITY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WITH THE PROJECTS? WE ARE LOOKING AT A CDBG GRANT FOR POTENTIALLY OFFSETTING THE COST OF THAT PLAYGROUND. THE OTHERS ARE RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENTS STATED IN OUR PARK SYSTEM MASTER PLAN.

NEXT SLIDE. SOME OF OUR LOCAL ASSESSMENT OPPORTUNITIES ARE REMOVING SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS AND DIFFERING THEM TO ANOTHER YEAR. THE ONE WE DID KEEP IN THERE IS THE CORE SURFACING. BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO PARTS THAT MADE-- MAYBE IN A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE TO TAKE THOSE AMENITIES OFF-LINE, WHICH WOULD IMPACT ALL LEVELS OF SERVICE IF WE DO NOT PREPARE, DUE TO SAFETY CONCERNS AND PEOPLE THREATENING THOSE COURTS. NEXT SLIDE, REGIONAL SPORTS COMPLEX. WE SEE AN INCREASING CAPITAL.

THAT IS DUE TO THE EQUIPMENT PURCHASE TO MAINTAIN THOSE PARTS. THAT IS FROM MOWING AND EQUIPMENT TO MAINTAIN THE PARK. STAFF DOES THAT.

SO THAT IS FROM THE MOWING CONTRACT AND UNDERGROUND MAINTENANCE. NEXT SLIDE.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CONTRACT THERE IS APROPOS, THE TREATMENT OF THE ATHLETIC FIELDS. AND THE OTHER PROJECTS WE HAVE ARE THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE BRING IN TO THE COUNTY.

NEXT SLIDE. >> HOW BAD IS THE MOODY PARK

PLAYGROUND? >> THAT LIFE CYCLE, YOU ARE LOOKING AT 14 YEARS. WE ARE OUTSIDE THE WARRANTEE AREA. SO AS PIECES BREAK DOWN YOU CANNOT REPLACE THEM. —-DASH SURFACING ITSELF, THE EQUIPMENT IS TIED TO THE SURFACING.

SO AS EQUIPMENT BREAKS, YOU CANNOT TAKE THE EQUIPMENT AND FUND THE SURFACE. SO THAT LIFE CYCLE IS COMING UP.

>> YOU WANT TO REPLACE IT BECAUSE OF THAT?

>> YES. AND YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THE ENTIRE UNIT THAT SERVES AS THE BASE BECAUSE IT'S UNDER DRAINAGE. THAT IS HALF THE COST OF THE

EQUIPMENT. >> DELAYING IT FOR A YEAR, WOULD

THAT BE OKAY? >> THAT IS POSSIBLE, BUT WE RUN THE RISK OF IF A PIECE OF EQUIP INDOOR A LARGE PIECE BREAKS, THEN IT'S A HEAVY POSSIBILITY THAT A PORTION WOULD BE TAKEN

OFF-LINE. >> THANK YOU.

>> NEXT SLIDE. FAIRGROUNDS.

YOU SEE AN INCREASE WITH PERSONNEL.

THAT HAS TO DO WITH RECLASSIFYING A STAFF MEMBER THAT WAS IN PARKS AND REC ADMIN TO THE FAIRGROUNDS.

AS WELL AS FILLING THAT VACANT POSITION FOR HALF THAT CALENDAR YEAR. SO THAT INDIVIDUAL WAS HIRED IN THE SUMMER OF 2025. YOU SEE THAT INCREASE THERE.

NEXT SLIDE. THE CONTRACTS FOR THE FACILITY AND DISPOSAL SERVICES ARE WITH MAINTENANCE.

THERE ARE NO OTHER PROJECTS FOR THAT SITE.

MOVING ON TO THE GUN RANGE. YOU SEE A DECREASE SLIGHTLY YEAR

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>> I HAVE A QUESTION. DOES ANY PART OF THE GUN RANGE

GO TO THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET? >> THEY OPERATE THE FACILITY MONDAYS, TUESDAYS, AND WEDNESDAYS.

THEY BRING THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT TO UTILIZE THE RANGE.

BUT WE DO REPAIR THE WOODEN AND STEEL TARGETS.

BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THEY BRING THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT.

AND AS FAR AS THE MOWING OF THE ACTUAL RANGE, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT MOWS AROUND THE COMPLEX, WHICH IS ON THE C.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. YOUR PERSONNEL COST HAS GONE UP FROM YEAR OVER YEAR, AND FROM 24-25.

>> YES. THAT'S THE INCREASE OF ONE RANGE SAFETY OFFICER AND JUST THE INCREASE WE RECEIVE OVER TIME.

THE FACILITY WAS STAFFED WITH A RANGE MANAGER AND OUTDOOR COORDINATOR, AND THEN TWO SAFETY OFFICERS AND HIRED ONE MORE.

THIS YEAR WE ARE HIRING A RESERVATION SPECIALIST.

IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE FACILITY, THE OPERATIONS OF IT USED TO BE IN THE GARAGE OF THE RANGE. NOW WE'VE BUILT A PORTABLE BUILDING, SO THAT'S THE CHECK IN STATION FOR SAFETY MEASURES AND THAT HAS MOVED AWAY FROM THE ACTUAL RANGE.

SO NOW HIRING A PART TIME PERSON TO HANDLE ALL OF THE VIDEOS AND SAFETY MEASURES SO A PERSON CAN ACTUALLY GO TO THE RANGE, HIRING THAT PART TIME STAFF MEMBER ALLOWS A FULL TIME RANGE SAFETY OFFICER TO INCREASE UTILIZATION. THAT'S THE INCREASE YOU SEE

THERE. >> I'M CONFUSED, BECAUSE IT'S ONLY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC THREE DAYS A WEEK.

SO WE NEED THREE RANGE SAFETY OFFICERS?

>> THEY ARE PART TIME EMPLOYEES, 24 HOURS A WEEK.

THOSE 24 HOURS CONSIST OF EIGHT HOURS THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY WHEN THE RANGE IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

THEY DO NOT WORK THE OTHER DAYS. >> I GET THAT YOU NEED MORE THAN ONE FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE OFF OR BE SICK.

I JUST -- >> THE RATIO IS ONE TO FIVE.

CURRENTLY WE'RE OPERATING AT ONE TO EIGHT OR 1 TO 10.

SO WE ARE STILL NOT AT THAT ONE TO FIVE RATIO OF SHOOTER AND RANGE SAFETY OFFICER. WE WERE OPERATING AT ONE TO

EIGHT OR 1 TO 10. >> WHAT'S THE STANDARD OF THE

ONE TO FIVE VERSUS ONE TO EIGHT? >> THE RECOMMENDED STANDARD IS ONE TO FIVE. THERE ARE NO SANCTIONING QUALIFICATIONS THAT SAYS ONE TO FIVE WITH OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF THAT ARE ON SITE RECOMMEND THAT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE OPERATING AT THE MAXIMUM SAFETY CAPACITY WE CAN.

CURRENTLY, AGAIN, WE ARE AT ONE TO EIGHT.

WHEN WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO MAY BE SICK OR TAKE OFF, WE ARE SHUTTING DOWN PORTIONS OF THE RANGE.

SO WE MAY DECREASE THE PISTOL OR RIFLE RANGES DOWN BY FIVE SO WE CAN HAVE THAT RATIO. THAT HAS HAPPENED IN TIMES PAST.

>> AND YOU CUT THE CAPITAL. DO YOU HAVE A SKEET RANGE THAT

WE HAD TALKED ABOUT? >> NO OTHER AMENITIES OUTSIDE OF THE GUN RANGE AND ARCHERY RANGE EXIST.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. THERE WAS A GOAL TO BE SELF-SUSTAINING. HOW CLOSE ARE WE, ARE WE CLOSING

THE GAP? >> WE ARE CLOSING THAT GAP.

JUST A LITTLE INFORMATION OFF OF REVENUE THAT WE'VE HAD IN FISCAL YEAR 24-25. IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OVER $95,000. THROUGH JUNE WE WERE ALREADY AT 83, AND THIS TIME LAST YEAR WE WOULD HAVE BEEN AT 72,000.

SO WE ARE $10,000 MORE THAN WE WERE AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR.

WE ARE MAKING FEE SCHEDULE RECOMMENDATIONS.

SOME OF THOSE ARE INCREASING MEMBERSHIP RATES, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD THIS YEAR WAS SOME OF THE SUNKEN COSTS WERE TARGETS AND SAFETY GOGGLES. THOSE WERE THINGS THAT WERE HANDED OUT AND JUST THROWN OUT. WE'VE ADDED THAT TO THE FEE SCALES. SO WE WERE AVERAGING 50-$60 A WEEK JUST ON RECRUITMENT SUNK EXPENSES FOR TARGETS.

THOSE ARE THINGS WE ARE LOOKING AT TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE THE REVENUE. BUT EXPENDITURES CURRENTLY, LOOKING AT 254,000 TO $83,000 OF REVENUE.

>> THANK YOU. >> IF YOU DECIDED THAT THAT WOULD BE A PRIORITY FOR THE COUNTY, I THINK YOU COULD LOOK AT USING OUR IMPACT FEES, IF THAT WAS A DESIRE.

IT... >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

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AGAIN, THAT IS ON THE WELL SYSTEM AND WE HAVE TO MOVE THAT OVER TO CITY WATER. SO THE BACKGROUND NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR THAT, THE CAPITAL PROJECTS TEAM IS TAKING THE LEAD ON THAT. THAT'S WHAT THAT BUDGET ITEM IS THERE AS WELL AS RATE IMPROVEMENTS TO CONTINUE TO FIX THE DETERIORATION OF THE WALKING PATHS YOU SEE THROUGHOUT THE PARK. NEXT SLIDE.

CONTRACTS. OUTSIDE OF TWOFOLD ENGINEERING AND DISPOSAL SERVICES WHICH COMES OUT OF RENT AND FACILITIES, ONE STOP AQUATICS IS THE ONLY OTHER CONTRACT WE HAVE AT THE SITE. YOU SEE THAT $7000 LINE ITEM.

MOVING TO THE NEXT SLIDE. >> WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH YMCA.

>> IT WAS YMCA. ONE STOP AQUATICS IS THE VENDOR THAT WE CONTRACTED WITH AS OF LAST YEAR.

SO THIS IS THEIR SECOND YEAR. >> IT'S NOT GENERATION OF REVENUE, IT'S DEDUCTION IN THE BILL THAT WE OWE FOR THAT SERVICE. AND MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THAT'S ACTUALLY AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT SLIDE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE RECOMMENDED LOCAL SERVICE OPPORTUNITIES TO LOOK AT. WE'VE BEEN DIVING INTO THE FCT OVERSTRETCHING AND REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SITE.

IT DOES SAY WE ARE TO OPERATE A POOL AND OUTDOOR RECREATION AMENITIES. BUT IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY THIRD PARTY RENTALS OR RESTRUCTURING THE WAY THE CONTRACT'S WRITTEN CURRENTLY, WE ARE MAKING FEE RECOMMENDATIONS TO INCREASE THE POOL ENTRY FEES. CURRENTLY ONE OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE THAT IF YOU STAY OVERNIGHT YOU GET FREE ADMISSION TO THE POOL. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CHANGES WE ARE LOOKING AT MAKING NEXT YEAR.

>> HOW MUCH IS IT TO GET IN? >> THREE DOLLARS FOR AN ADULT, $2 FOR YOUTH AND WE ARE INCREASING THAT TO FIVE AND FOUR

FOR NEXT YEAR AS WELL. >> WHAT'S THE ANNUAL REVENUE OF

CAMP? >> FISCAL YEAR 25-25, WE'VE MADE $160,935. AS OF JUNE 30TH IT'S 104,599.

THAT'S ALL FOR CABIN RENTALS. WE ARE STILL MISSING OVER A THOUSAND, MAYBE 1200 WHICH IS THE YMCA SUMMER CAMP.

THEY PAID OUT THEIRS AT THE END OF THE SUMMER, SO THAT WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL THOUSAND THAT WE WILL SEE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

>> I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.

CAMP CHOW IS 100% UNDENIABLY A LOSING PROPOSITION.

IT'S $538,351 TO OPERATE AND ONLY BRINGING IN $160,000.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT A COUNTY WITH 240,000 PEOPLE, I BELIEVE THE NUMBER WAS 1341 VISITORS ANNUALLY.

IT'S A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE FOR 500 GRAND.

IT'S A TOUGH DECISION, BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE ARE REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO DIVE IN AS A NICE TO HAVE.

AS FAR AS PARKS STAFF, ONE OF MY PRIORITIES IS TO KEEP ACCESS FOR RESIDENTS AND MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN A DECENT LEVEL OF MAINTENANCE. ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WE'VE REALLY GOT TO TIE IN ON IS THE BLOCKING AND TACKLING OF GOVERNMENT. IS IF THE JOB OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO PROVIDE PROGRAMING? MY OPINION IS NO. I THINK IN THE PARKS THERE ARE SO MANY PRIVATE PARTNERS? SHERIFF'S, PAL, YMCA, FIAA, MIDDLEBURG ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION. YOU GO ALL THE WAY DOWN THE LIST OF 21 LEASES AND I WOULD IMAGINE IF WE COME TO THE TABLE WITH SOME OF THOSE PRIVATE PARTNERS WANTING TO EXPAND THEIR IMPACT, WE COULD SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASE COSTS.

CURRENTLY IN THE PARKS STAFF WE HAVE FOUR FTES THAT JUST DO PROGRAMING. IN A TIME WHERE WE ARE VERY UNCERTAIN AS TO WHAT THE FUTURE IS GOING TO BE, INCREASE IN

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I THINK THAT OUR COMMUNITY SUPPORTS OUR YOUTH ENOUGH THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO BE IN THAT BUSINESS.

ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO FIND SOME DOLLARS.

THAT'S JUST KIND OF MY THOUGHTS. >> IF I MAY, GOING BACK TO THE CAMP, WITH THE FCT THERE'S A REQUIREMENT TO HAVE THAT FACILITY OPEN, AND I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN THE POOL OPERATIONS, THE CABINS AND RENTALS WHICH ARE ALSO REQUIREMENTS THAT THERE MAY BE A THIRD OPPORTUNITY FOR RENTAL. BUT THE PARK ITSELF IS STILL A PASSIVE NATURE PARK THAT IS REQUIRED THAT WE PURCHASE THE PROPERTY IN 2006 TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

SO A LOT OF THAT OPERATION COST, JUST THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS OF THE FACILITY OUTSIDE OF THE CABINS ARE TIED INTO THAT PERSONNEL AND OPERATING COST.

>> WHEN DID YOU SAY WE PURCHASED THE PARK?

>> 2006. >> IS THERE ANYTHING THAT SAYS WE CAN'T SELL IT, TOTALLY SELL THE WHOLE THING?

>> THAT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY FCT, FLORIDA COMMUNITIES TRUST.

THAT'S HOW WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY.

THERE'S LANGUAGE AND RESTRICTIONS IN THAT, AND WE CAN EVEN GO INTO A THIRD PARTY OF A GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATION THAT FCT HAS. SO AGAIN, WE ARE DIVING INTO THOSE RESTRICTIONS AND WHAT THOSE ACTIONS ARE.

>> I THINK THE COMMISSIONER IS ON TO SOMETHING HERE.

I GUESS I JUST DIDN'T REALIZE WHAT A LOSING PROPOSITION CAMP CHOW WAS. I GET IT THAT THAT'S IN THE DEED, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS SAID IN DEEDS THAT, WHAT IS THE ENFORCEMENT OF, AND WHAT HAPPENS, THEY TAKE US TO COURT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS. BUT I GUESS THAT'S THE QUESTION.

OR MAYBE, WHAT WOULD IT COST OPERATIONALLY TO MAKE IT THE PASSIVE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE A LOT OF THE COSTS ARE.

OBVIOUSLY B TOLD US THE POOL. AND I KNOW 1350 PEOPLE HAVE USED THE POOL. BUT I WONDER HOW MUCH THE POOL IN GREEN COVE IS USED COMPARATIVELY.

AND YOU DON'T WANT A POOL OVERLOADED, OBVIOUSLY.

>> MAYBE THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, THE BUDGET OFFICE WORK WITH THE TEAM AND COME BACK AND GIVE YOU THAT BREAKDOWN OF HOW MUCH STAFF IT TAKES TO TURN OVER THE CAMPGROUND PIECE, THE CABINS, WHAT'S THE COST OF THE CABINS VERSUS THE REVENUE, WHAT'S THE COST TO MAINTAIN THE PARK AS JUST A PASSIVE PARK AND WE KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME OF THOSE BREAKDOWNS.

I THINK THE STAFF COULD COME BCK AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

>> I THINK IF WE CAN START WITH, HERE'S HOW MUCH WE ARE GENERATING OFF THE CAMPGROUNDS, HERE'S HOW MUCH THE CABINS COST YOU, HERE'S HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO MAINTAIN.

I THINK IF WE DO SOME OF THAT WORK.

>> IT SHOULD BE AN ACTION ITEM. AND FURTHERMORE, WHAT THE COST SAVINGS WOULD BE IF IT WAS A TOTALLY PASSIVE PARK.

LIKE IF IT WAS LIKE MOCCASIN SLOUGH, WHERE YOU WANT TO ENJOY THE PARK BUT THERE'S NO COUNTY INVOLVEMENT IN IT, WHAT'S THE

MAINTENANCE OF IT. >> I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT AS JUSTIN AND TROY MENTIONED, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK OFFLINE REEVALUATING REVENUE OPTIONS AT THE PARK ALONG WITH THE OTHER THINGS YOU'VE ASKED US TO LOOK INTO.

I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS SOMETHING I'M SUGGESTING, BUT THERE'S THINGS WE COULD LOOK AT THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED IN THE PAST.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE DON'T ALLOW ALCOHOL, WE DON'T ALLOW CATERING, DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE BIG CABIN.

SO WE TURN DOWN A LOT OF WEDDING RESERVATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

PEOPLE THAT JUST FIND THEY DON'T WANT TO RENT THE FACILITY BECAUSE OF SOME OF OUR RESTRICTIONS.

THOSE ARE THINGS WE WOULD ALSO WANT TO LOOK AT AND BRING BACK

INTO CONSIDERATION. >> AND GETTING CREATIVE, IT'S ALL DOLLARS AND CENTS. IF YOU LOOK AT A WEDDING VENUE IN THE BIG CABIN, NOW PEOPLE ARE PAYING IF IT'S, YOU CAN ONLY HAVE THE ALCOHOL FOR THE WEDDINGS OR WHATEVER, NOW YOU'RE BRINGING IN 5-$10,000 PER WEDDING PER WEEKEND.

THAT TOTALLY CHANGES ALL THIS. AND THE CAMPING PIECE, THE POOL

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MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE WAY. BUT THAT COULD BE A HUGE --

>> WE'VE DONE THAT AT THE FAIRGROUNDS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.

WE COULD DO THE SAME THING AT CAMP CHOW.

>> WOULD THAT INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT STAY THERE? HOW PACKED ARE WE WITH PEOPLE THAT STAY THERE VERSUS WHEN WE HAVE A LOT OF ROOM OR ONLY 13 VISITORS. AND INCREASE THAT USE.

>> WITH THE 1300, THAT WAS THE POOL ADMISSION.

THE CABINS WERE TOTALLY SEPARATE.

BUT THE FALL AND WINTER IS WHEN WE ARE BOOKED THE MOST, BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM ARE ELEMENT DRIVEN FACILITIES WHERE THERE'S NO AC.

THAT'S WHEN IT DRIVES UP TO WHERE ALL OF OUR CABINS ARE RENTED PRETTY MUCH EVERY WEEKEND.

THE SUMMERTIME IS A LITTLE BIT OF FLEX SPACE, BUT I THINK THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK INTO, DIVE INTO THE DEED RESTRICTIONS. IS ALCOHOL ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY? THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE WILL

HAVE TO DIVE INTO. >> BUT IF YOU ALLOW CATERING YOU'RE DOING EVEN MORE THAN WEDDINGS.

>> I WOULD IMAGINE THE FCT WOULD BE AMENABLE TO IF WE SAID, WE CAN'T AFFORD THIS, SHOW THEM THE NUMBERS.

THIS IS WHAT WAS IN THE DEED 20 YEARS AGO, A DIFFERENT WORLD TODAY, CAN WE CHANGE TO ATTRACT SOME OF THIS USAGE.

AND I'LL BE HONEST, I THINK I'VE SEEN THIS SUMMER PEOPLE POSTING ABOUT, IS THERE ANYWHERE TO GO AND SWIM.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE DO A GOOD JOB ADVERTISING THAT THE COUNTY HAS A POOL THAT IS PUBLIC.

MAYBE WE DO A PASS SO YOU CAN PAY FOR A SUMMER OR NOT PAY FOR

EACH TIME. >> WE DO HAVE THAT IN THE FEE

SCHEDULE. >> SO MAYBE ADVERTISING THAT MORE, THAT YES, THERE IS ONE, THE COMPETITION IS THE GREEN COVE POOL AND THE Y. BUT OTHERWISE I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S PUBLIC POOLS THAT PEOPLE CAN GO TO WITHOUT HAVING A

MEMBERSHIP. >> WE'VE ASKED WHAT PEOPLE WANT.

THIS IS ONE OF THE ONLY WAYS IN OUR COUNTY THAT PEOPLE CAN USE

THAT AREA. >> GOING BACK TO YOU WERE MENTIONING THE CAPACITY OF CAMPING AND STUFF.

THE RED FLAG FOR ME IS THAT IF IT'S FULL IT'S ONLY BRINGING IN 160,000 AND THE OPERATING IS ALMOST 600,000, THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT BUSINESS. THAT'S WHERE --

>> THAT'S WHERE WE NEED THAT BREAKDOWN.

POSSIBLY EVEN REALLY THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX, COULD THE BIG CABIN OR PARTS OF SOMETHING OUT THERE, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU MADE ME THINK ABOUT WITH THE RESIDENCE IS THAT PEOPLE HAVE ASKED FOR A RESTAURANT ON THE WATER.

IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN LEASE OUT, IT HAS A KITCHEN, IS THERE A WAY THAT IT CAN BE LEASED OUT TO SOMEONE.

HE NEVER DID IT. HE OPENED HIS MARINA WITHOUT IT.

SO MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR THE COUNTY TO LEASE THAT SPACE OUT AND MEET THE NEEDS OF WHAT THE PUBLIC WOULD

LIKE. >> I THINK WE'VE HEARD YOU LOUD AND CLEARLY. WE'LL COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS ON HOW TO SEE IF WE CAN MAKE THE NUMBERS WORK.

>> WE HAD A TREE HOUSE IN NEED OF RENOVATION.

DID WE DO THE RENOVATION OR NOT? >> IT WAS UNDER RENOVATION.

THAT TREE HOUSE WAS FLATTENED BY A TREE, SO IT'S GONE.

WE ARE IN DESIGNS CURRENTLY TO FINALIZE THAT AS MORE OF AN ACCESSIBLE AMENITY AS OPPOSED TO THE TREE HOUSE.

YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO USE, SO THIS ONE WE'LL HAVE AN ADA RAMP AND WHEELCHAIR. BUT AS FAR AS CONSTRUCTION, WE DO NOT HAVE THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

THANK YOU. >> AS MARY IS COMING ON DECK, IT'S ANIMAL SERVICES, AND EXTENSION AND MOSQUITO.

>> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. THE CLAY COUNTY LIBRARY SUBMISSION IS TO PROVIDE A COMMUNITY RESOURCE CENTER THAT IS THE HEART OF THE COMMUNITY. THE CLAY COUNTY LIBRARY SYSTEM'S VISION IS TO INFORM, CONNECT, AND INSPIRE ALL COUNTY RESIDENTS BY PROVIDING FREE ACCESS TO PROGRAMS, SPACES, AND BOTH PHYSICAL AND VIRTUAL RESOURCES. WE SUPPORT THE COUNTY'S QUALITY

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NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE CAN GO BACK, I APOLOGIZE.

WE ARE CURRENTLY CHANGING TO A NEW SELF CHECK VENDOR AND THE SAVINGS THAT WE WILL SEE IN OUR OPERATING IS GOING TO BE INCLUDED AT THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.

THE CAPITAL PORTION OF OUR BUDGET IS FOR LIBRARY MATERIALS, BOTH PHYSICAL AND VIRTUAL. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO WE HAVE TWO SLIDES ON CONTRACTS AND EXTERNAL SERVICES.

THEY SUPPORT THE OPERATIONS OF THE LIBRARY, INCLUDING PATRON DATABASES. IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT

QUESTION. >> I CIRCLED THE LOCKERS.

>> I'M GOING TO PRESENT ABOUT THAT, YES, SIR.

THANK YOU. SO I RECOMMEND THE FOLLOWING SERVICE LEVEL OPPORTUNITIES. DISCONTINUING LOCKERS.

THE LOCKERS ALLOW PATRONS TO PICK UP THEIR HOLDS AFTER HOURS.

HOWEVER, ONLY 150 UNIQUE PATRONS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE LOCKER SYSTEM. ALSO, DISCONTINUING -- IT'S IN A DIFFERENT ORDER COMMISSARY. DISCONTINUING LINKEDIN LEARNING.

LINKEDIN LEARNING TRAINING DATABASE, THERE'S ONLY BEEN A FEW UNIQUE LOGINS FOR THE YEAR. AND DISCONTINUING INTERLIBRARY LOANS. INTERLIBRARY LOANS ALLOW PATRONS TO BORROW ITEMS FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE STATE THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE HERE IN OUR LIBRARY SYSTEM.

ONLY 447 UNIQUE PATRONS HAVE USED THIS SERVICE.

FOR THE LAST YEAR. >> LINKEDIN LEARNING IS 400

USERS, RESIDENTS? >> IT'S WITH A LIBRARY CARD.

SOME STAFF USE IT, SOME PATRONS AND THE PUBLIC USE IT, BUT, YES, YOU NEED A LIBRARY CARD TO USE IT.

THE OFFERINGS ARE VAST. YOU CAN LEARN HOW TO USE MICROSOFT EXCEL, MICROSOFT OFFICE, YOU CAN TAKE TRAINING ON LEADERSHIP, CUSTOMER SERVICE. IF YOU WANT TO LEARN HOW TO USE PHOTOGRAPHY, YOU COULD TAKE A COURSE ON THAT.

IT'S EVERYTHING FROM PROFESSIONAL TRAINING TO INDIVIDUAL OFFERINGS. OUR REVENUE COMES FROM STATE AID

REIMBURSEMENT THAT WE GET. >> YOU ARE SPECIFIC TO SAY

RESIDENTS. >> I MEANT PATRONS.

RESIDENTS CAN COME IN AND USE THE LIBRARY, BUT FOR LINKEDIN LEARNING THEY NEED TO HAVE A LIBRARY CARD.

>> OKAY. SO LET ME REFINE MY QUESTION.

CAN RESIDENTS OUTSIDE OF CLAY COUNTY GET A LIBRARY CARD

HERE? >> THEY CAN.

WE HAVE COOPERATIONS WITH FOUR COUNTIES.

MARTIN, ALACHUA, ST. JOHN'S, AND BRADFORD.

WE DO NOT HAVE ONE WITH THE DUVAL SYSTEM.

THEY DO NOT WANT TO PARTNER WITH US.

HOWEVER, IF YOU LIVE IN DUVAL, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT DUVAL IS CLOSE TO THE CLAY COUNTY LINE, YOU CAN PURCHASE A CARD.

FOR A YEAR IT'S CURRENTLY $100 FOR A LIBRARY CARD FOR ONE YEAR FOR SOMEONE THAT DOES NOT LIVE IN THE COUNTY.

SO THEY DO HAVE THAT OPTION. WE ARE GOING TO ADDRESS THOSE

FEES. >> HOW ARE WE FOR DUVAL COUNTY?

>> THEIR FEE FOR CLAY COUNTY RESIDENTS IS $175.

>> IT'S ACTUALLY $180, SORRY. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> SO ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS ON REMOVING HOT SPOTS FROM LIBRARIES. OBVIOUSLY I WOULD IMAGINE, ARE

THEY USED OR NOT USED? >> THEY ARE USED.

THEY'RE OFTEN BROKEN, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU AND WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THAT. I KNOW DEAN IS GOING TO PRESENT ON THAT, THAT'S $12,000 A MONTH. I'M SORRY, IT'S A YEAR.

I APOLOGIZE, IT DOESN'T COME OUT OF MY BUDGET.

IT COMES OUT OF DEAN'S BUDGET. I WOULD HAVE SAID WOE TO.

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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> THIS IS ANOTHER 1I THINK THAT AS WE LOOK AS A COMMUNITY OVER THE NEXT 3-5 YEARS, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE. I HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION WITH MARY YESTERDAY ABOUT THIS. I THINK THE PUBLIC LOOKS AT THE TERM LIBRARY AS KIND OF AN ANTIQUATED THING YOU DID 25 YEARS AGO. AND I CHALLENGED MARY WITH THIS WITH HER TEAM. DO WE WANT TO START SEEING THESE FACILITIES MORE AS COMMUNITY, WHAT YOU SAID AT THE VERY

BEGINNING -- >> COMMUNITY RESOURCE CENTERS.

>> I THINK THAT'S REALLY FROM THE GOVERNMENT PERSPECTIVE, THAT WOULD BE THE VALUE. INSTEAD OF JUST A PLACE TO GET BOOKS, WHICH IS HOW SOME OF THE COMMUNITY LOOKS AT A LIBRARY.

THAT BEING SAID, ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE IS, HOW MANY RESIDENTS, AND YOU TOLD ME YESTERDAY OF THE FIVE LIBRARIES WE HAVE IN OPERATION, WHAT'S THE LEVEL OF ATTENDANCE OR PARTICIPATION IN THE COMMUNITY.

>> WE HAVE 95,058 CURRENT LIBRARY CARDHOLDERS.

>> HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE ACTIVE? >> I WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK TO

YOU ON THAT INFORMATION. >> WE HAVE 95,000 CARDHOLDERS.

>> THEY'RE ALL ACTIVE, I TAKE THAT BACK.

WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE USING THEM.

>> THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY ACTIVE. >> I WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME

RESEARCH. >> I'D LIKE TO SEE THE DATA.

OF THOSE 95,038, HOW MANY HAVE DONE SOMETHING WITH THAT CARD WITHIN THE LAST YEAR? I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT DATA.

>> I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU. >> BUT BACK TO THE FIVE LIBRARIES, HOW MANY PEOPLE IN TERMS OF ATTENDANCE?

>> FOR ALL THE PROGRAMS? >> I MEAN IN TERMS OF, YOU SHOULD HAVE SOME DATA OF HOW MANY PEOPLE COME TO THE ORANGE PARK LIBRARY, THE KEYSTONE, THE GREEN COVE.

>> WE DO NOT HAVE COUNTERS AT THE LIBRARIES.

THOSE WERE TAKEN OUT A FEW YEARS AGO.

I CAN KIND OF EXPLAIN WHY THAT HAPPENS.

WHEN YOU WALK INTO A LIBRARY, WE'LL TAKE ORANGE PARK AS AN EXAMPLE. IF YOU WERE TO GO THROUGH THE COUNTER, YOU WOULD BE COUNTED ONCE.

IF YOU WERE TO GO BACK INTO THE HALLWAY TO GO TO A PROGRAM YOU WOULD BE COUNTED AGAIN. IF YOU WERE TO GO BACK INTO THE LIBRARY THE SAME DAY YOU WOULD BE COUNTED AGAIN.

IF YOU HAD TO GO TO THE RESTROOM, YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO INTO THE FOYER AND YOU WOULD BE COUNTED AGAIN.

SO WE DIDN'T FEEL THAT WAS ACCURATE INFORMATION.

SO WE DON'T KEEP THAT INFORMATION ANYMORE.

>> BUT YOU HAVE PROGRAMING INFORMATION.

>> I CERTAINLY DO. SO CURRENTLY IN THE PAST 12 MONTHS, OUR ATTENDANCE HAS BEEN 108,767 PEOPLE.

A TOTAL OF 2157 PROGRAMS. I DID TALK ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN. I WILL TELL YOU THAT OUR GOAL FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS TO INCREASE PROGRAMING OVER THE FIVE YEARS BY 30%. WE HAVE CURRENTLY INCREASED IT BY 26%. ENGAGEMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE INCREASED BY 35% AND WE'VE INCREASED IT BY 84%.

>> MAYOR, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK OF YOU AND YOUR TEAM AND THE REASON THAT THIS IS SO IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC IS LAST YEAR'S BUDGET ON LIBRARIES WAS $4.9 MILLION.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE INVESTING THAT MUCH MONEY INTO A SERVICE THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY THE COUNTY EXPECTS IN OUR -- AND OUR CITIZENS WANT TO USE. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK.

>> I WOULD JUST SAY IT SOUNDS LIKE...

>> COULD BE, YEAH. >> 108,000, HALF OF OUR

RESIDENTS. >> CAN WE GET A BREAKDOWN OF THAT, OF THE PROGRAMS? YOU SAID 108,000.

IF WE CAN GET A BREAKDOWN. >> I HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN.

I HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN BY AGE GROUP AND WE CAN ALSO BREAK IT DOWN BY BRANCH. I'LL GET THAT TO TERESA SO SHE

CAN SEND IT TO ALL OF YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> IT'S 11:00 RIGHT NOW, DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD?

>> WHETHER IT'S ABANDONED PAT, OR A STRAY ANIMAL FOUND DURING A STORM, WE ARE AVAILABLE 24/7. WE MANAGED PUBLIC SAFETY,

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AS WE LOOK TO TRANSITION TO OUR NEW BRAND FACILITY, WE ARE ACUTELY AWARE OF THE LONG TERM NEED TO INCREASE STAFF, TO MANAGE THE NEW LARGER FOOTPRINT. WE WILL REMAIN STRICTLY ACCOUNTABLE TO TAXPAYERS AND ARE HOPING ON ASKING FOR ANY NEW HIRES AT THIS TIME BEING AS WE WANT TO FIRST GAUGE OUR PRECISE NEEDS IN THE NEW SPACE. FURTHERMORE, WE WANT TO SEE IF THIS MORE CENTRALIZED LOCATION WILL NATURALLY DRIVE AN INCREASE IN REGULAR VOLUNTEERS TO OFFSET LABOR NEEDS.

BECAUSE OF THIS DELAY IN REQUESTING THE NEW STAFF MEMBERS, WE THINK THIS STREAMLINED BUDGET WHICH WE'VE PROPOSED IN FRONT OF US WILL STRICTLY FOCUS ON THE ROI FOR OPERATIONAL TOOLS, REQUESTING A TARGETED FUNDING FOR THREE CRITICAL ELEMENTS, MATCHING FUNDS TO SECURE LOW COST SPAY NEUTER INITIATIVES, MEDICAL SUPPLIES TO REDUCE LENGTH OF STAY, AND FIELD EQUIPMENT FOR ANIMAL PATROL OFFICERS TO RESOLVE THE ROAMING PET ISSUES DIRECTLY AFFECTING NEIGHBORHOODS. BY INVESTING IN THIS BUDGET TODAY, CRISIS MANAGEMENT FOR THE FUTURE, AND IT ENSURES A SAFER COMMUNITY WITH FEWER STRAY ANIMALS ON THE STREETS AND A MORE HUMANE AND EFFICIENT ANIMAL SERVICE OPERATION.

AS YOU CAN SEE FROM WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED, IT'S PRETTY STREAMLINED. WE'VE GONE UNDER 3% AS MOST OF THE BUDGETS HAVE BEEN, AND AS WE ARE MOVING WE DON'T -- SORRY, NEXT SLIDE. THESE ARE THE CONTRACTS WE'VE HAD. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS YOU CAN ASK THOSE. BUT GOING TO THE LAST SLIDE, WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE ANY SERVICE LEVEL ADJUSTMENT OPPORTUNITIES THERE. BUT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED SOME THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT ONCE WE GET INTO A NEW SHELTER, SUCH AS WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH THE LOW COST SPAY AND NEUTER FOR PETS. WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH MICROCHIP CLINICS. WE HAVE AN ADDITION WITH THE MEETING ROOM AND WE WOULD LOOK TO SEE IF WE COULD UTILIZE THAT FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR BUSINESSES.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE THREE FULL TIME STAFF MEMBERS ON THE PLACEMENT, AND THAT IS OUR BUDGET.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW.

WE ARE GOOD? APPRECIATE YOU.

THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA HAD THIS EXTENSION OF A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA AND CLAY COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS THAT HAS BEEN BRINGING RESEARCH BASED EDUCATION SINCE 1951.

WE HELP RESIDENTS SOLVE PROBLEMS AND IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE THROUGH PROGRAMS AND HEALTH AND NUTRITION, HOUSING, FINANCE, SUSTAINABLE GARDENING AND LANDSCAPING AND CHIEF DEVELOPMENT. SUBJECT AREAS RANGE FROM TRADITIONAL LIVESTOCK AND EQUINE TO COMPUTER PROGRAMING AND ROBOTICS. THESE NEEDS AND PROGRAM AREAS ARE IDENTIFIED THROUGH A PARTNERSHIP TO BEST BENEFIT THE COUNTY THROUGH THE UNIVERSITY AND COUNTY GUIDANCE AS WELL AS WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND ADVISORY COUNCILS.

EACH TEAM DELIVERS 2000 EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS TO REACH MORE THAN 20,000 PARTICIPANTS WHILE PROVIDING OVER 100001 ON ONE CONSULTATIONS TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND ADDRESS LOCAL NEED. THE IMPACT IS AMPLIFIED BY 964 DEDICATED VOLUNTEERS INCLUDING CONTRIBUTING MORE THAN 10,000 HOURS HOURLY, THE EQUIVALENT OF FIVE FULL TIME EMPLOYEES.

OUR FUNDING IS A TRUE PARTNERSHIP.

CLAY COUNTY INVESTED APPROXIMATELY 694,000 WITH AN ESTIMATED 676,000 FOR FISCAL YEAR 27 AND THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA MATCHES THAT INVESTMENT WITH MORE THAN 835,000 DIRECT AND INDIRECT SUPPORTS, HELPING US FURTHER LEVERAGE FUNDS FOR PROGRAM FEES WHEN APPROPRIATE FOR PROGRAMING AND IN TOTAL FROM 2008 TO 2024 THE OFFICE HAD A TOTAL ECONOMIC IMPACT OF $10.6 MILLION. THIS IS AN ROI OF APPROXIMATELY $3.06 FOR EVERY DOLLAR THE COUNTY SPENDS FOR ORGANIZATION.

OUR ONLY MAJOR CONTRACT IS THE MOU FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA. ALL THAT MONEY GOES TOWARD POSITIONS. SO THOSE ARE 2.5 FTES AND PROGRAM ASSISTANCE FOR EDUCATION AND COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE

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AND FOR SERVICE LEVEL, WE DON'T HAVE ANY AT THIS TIME BECAUSE WE'RE ALMOST ENTIRELY SALARY AND POSITION RELATED.

$6000 IN TOTAL OPERATING EXP EXPENSE.

>> I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THIS.

IF THE COUNTY WERE TO DECREASE OUR CONTRIBUTION, WHAT WOULD THE UNIVERSITY DO? LIKE IF WE SAID, WE DON'T FEEL THAT WE NEED 678,000, LET'S SAY WE'RE ONLY WILLING TO FUND HUNDRED 000. WHAT HAPPENS ON THE UNIVERSITY

SIDE? >> THOSE WOULD BE DIRECTLY LOST IN POSITIONS AND OUTPUTS. THE UNIVERSITY IS FUNDED THROUGH STATE AND FEDERAL HOURS. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE SITUATION THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO...

>> SO 10.6 MILLION IN ECONOMIC IMPACT.

GIVE ME TANGIBLE EXAMPLES. >> FOR EXAMPLE, WE DO HAVE IN-KIND IMPACT FROM VOLUNTEERS BEING ABLE TO WORK IN THE COMMUNITY. OUR PROGRAMING WORKS WITH A LOT OF NONPROFITS AS WELL AS LEADERSHIP TO BASICALLY HELP BUILD POSITIONS WITH THE COUNTY. PERSONALLY I DO PESTICIDE TRAINING, TO HELP PEOPLE SECURE JOBS IN THAT INDUSTRY IN

CLAY COUNTY. >> SO GIVE ME SOME SPECIFIC

EXAMPLES. >> SO THESE ARE THINGS LIKE WE'RE ALSO PULLING IN GRANTS, AND BASICALLY EACH YEAR WE PUT IN A WORKLOAD IMPACT WITH THE STATE AND FROM THERE, FROM WHAT PEOPLE RESPOND SAYING THIS IS HOW EXTENSION HAS DIRECTLY IMPACTED THEM, THEY USE A METRIC TO MEASURE WHAT THAT ECONOMIC

IMPACT IS. >> I'M 1 OF 5, BUT THIS PROGRAM, I'VE REACHED OUT TO SOME OF MY AG FOLKS AND AS MANY OF YOU KNOW I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT PROTECTING AG, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S NONE OF MY DISTRICT EXCEPT OLD HARD ROAD.

BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE GETTING FOR THIS. I'VE HEARD A BUNCH OF NUMBERS, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY, WE HELP THIS SPECIFIC TAXPAYER BY DOING X. THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.

>> WE HAVE A WIDE VARIETY OF THAT.

IN MY POSITION I'M GOING OUT AND HELPING PEOPLE.

SO IF PEOPLE HAVE ISSUES, THEY ARE LISTED AS HAVING ISSUES, BASICALLY YOU FILL IN THAT FORM, TAKE A LOOK AT SAMPLES, HELP

THEM FIND A SOLUTION. >> HOW MUCH IS THAT HAPPENING, HOW MANY RESIDENTS ARE REACHING OUT TO THE CLAY COUNTY EXTENSION OFFICE SAYING, I HAVE ISSUE WITH MY GRASS, CAN YOU COME SEE ME? I'VE NEVER HEARD OF ANYONE ACTUALLY DOING THAT.

>> WE'VE HAD 10,000 INDIVIDUAL CONTACTS TO THE OFFICE.

>> CAN YOU GIVE ME A RECORD OF THOSE?

>> YES, I CAN. >> THE PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO IN THE COMMUNITY, I SAID, WHAT DO WE DO? THIS IS ONE WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT.

>> AND WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING DIRECT EDUCATION.

WE HAVE TWO SCHOOL GARDENS, DOING EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMING IN STEM AND ROBOTICS AND EMBRYOLOGY THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

WE ARE IN RETIREMENT COMMUNITIES, WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY. SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE CONSTANTLY WORKING WITH THOSE GROUPS SO IT'S NOT AS PUBLIC FACING. BUT WE ARE OUT THERE.

AND ADDITIONALLY, FOR ME I'M FOCUSED ON A LOT OF THAT ONE ON ONE WHERE WE ARE AVERAGING IN GENERAL USUALLY ABOUT 6-8 PHONE CALLS PER WEEK AND PROBABLY ABOUT 20 EMAILS.

>> YOU PROBABLY GET MORE PEOPLE -- IF PEOPLE KNEW.

I WOULDN'T KNOW TO CALL THAT. >> AND SIX TO EIGHT PHONE CALLS

A WEEK FOR ALMOST $7000. >> THAT'S JUST IN MY PROGRAM AREA. SO OVER THE COURSE OF A WHOLE YEAR. AND FOR REFERENCE, 10,000 VERSUS 160,000 AMBULANCE RIDES. I'M SORRY, I DON'T WANT TO BE PAINTED AS THE VILLAIN TODAY, BUT THIS IS WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE. WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO NEEDS VERSUS WANTS AND RETURN ON INVESTMENT, I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S JUST MY TWO CENTS. >> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT 4H AS

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BUT SO ARE THE BOY SCOUTS, THE GIRL SCOUTS.

THEY PROVIDE A SERVICE, RECREATION SERVICES AS WELL.

SO I'M REALLY QUESTIONING THE PAID POSITIONS THE COUNTY IS FUNDING FOR 4H AND NONPROFIT, WHEREAS BOY SCOUTS...

>> SO THIS IS PROVIDING EDUCATION AND THE EXTENSIVE VOLUNTEER GROUP THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, PROVIDING THOSE INTERACTIONS WITH THE KIDS AT THE CLUB LEVEL.

SO THERE'S CLUBS IN EVERY SINGLE COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

BUT WE HAVE THREE FTES DIRECTLY SUPPORTING 4H.

TWO OF THOSE, THE POSITIONS ARE SPLIT BETWEEN UNIVERSITY FUN

FUNDING. >> HOW MANY PEOPLE AGAIN?

HOW MANY POSITIONS IS THAT? >> IN TOTAL IN OUR OFFICE WE HAVE 11 FTES. PER EXTENSION AGENTS.

THOSE ARE THE ONES PARTIALLY FUNDED BY THE UNIVERSITY AS WELL AS 2.5 EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM ASSISTANCE.

THOSE POSITIONS ARE, LAST YEAR 415 PROGRAMS. AND ATTENDEES AT THOSE EVENTS. WE ALSO HAVE THREE ADMINISTRATIVE POSITIONS AND SUPPORTS.

>> SO YOU SAID 753 ATTENDEES? >> 7453.

AND THOSE ARE JUST PROGRAM ASSISTANTS.

>> SO LOOKING AT PROGRAMING, 678,000 WITH 700 PROGRAM ATTENDEES, YOU GO BACK TO CAMP CHOW, 600,000 IN OPERATING FOR A THOUSAND PEOPLE COMING TO A POOL.

>> THOSE 7453 WERE PART OF THE OVER WE HAD.

>> MADAM CHAIR, I THINK... >> AND PART OF OUR PROGRAMING, WE DO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP EDUCATION AS WELL.

THAT THEY PAY FOR, CORRECT? LIKE THAT STUFF IS PART OF THE

CONTRACT. >> IT'S NOT.

BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY GO AWAY IF YOU REDUCE STAFFING.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. >> I WOULD SAY, JUST KNOW THAT WE KNOW THAT EACH OF YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT YOUR JOB AND YOUR DEPARTMENTS AND ALL THAT. THIS IS TOUGH.

JUST KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO FIND IT SOMEWHERE.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GETTING AT HERE.

AND ON DECK WE HAVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

GOOD MORNING. >> OUR MOSQUITO CONTROL PROGRAM PROVIDES A COMPREHENSIVE COUNTY WIDE PROGRAM FOCUSED ON PROTECTING PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENHANCING QUALITY OF LIFE OF RESIDENTS THROUGH YEAR ROUND SURVEILLANCE, PREVENTION AND TREATMENT, THE PROGRAM WORKS TO REDUCE MOSQUITO POPULATIONS, MINIMIZE NUISANCE MOSQUITOES, AND HELP LOWER THE RISK OF MOSQUITO BORNE DISEASES. THE PROGRAM SUPPORTS OUR STRATEGIC PLAN BY PROMOTING COMMUNITY HEALTH AND ENSURING RESIDENTS SAFELY ENJOY THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, PARKS, AND OUTDOOR SPACES. USING AN INTEGRATED MOSQUITO MANAGEMENT APPROACH, STAFF MONITOR MOSQUITO ACTIVITY, RESPOND TO CITIZEN CONCERNS, IDENTIFY BREEDING AREAS, AND APPLY TARGETED TREATMENT. IN 2025 ALONE, THE PROGRAM RESPONDED TO OVER 265 CITIZEN SERVICE REQUESTS, SPRAYED MORE THAN 262,000 ACRES TO CONTROL ADULT MOSQUITO POPULATIONS AND APPLIED LARVICIDE TO OVER 38.5 MILLION SQUARE FEET TO PREVENT MOSQUITO LARVAE FROM DEVELOPING INTO ADULTS.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE HERE, THERE'S A SLIGHT INCREASE

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YOU CAN SEE OUR ONE CONTRACT HERE THAT WE JUST RENEWED IN JUNE TO PROVIDE THE OVERALL COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM AT THE AMOUNT OF $285,252. NOT REFLECTED IN THIS SLIDE IS THE GRANT WE RECEIVED EACH YEAR. THIS YEAR IT IS ALLOTTED AT $69,587 TO HELP OFFSET THOSE COSTS.

THAT BRINGS THE TOTAL TO THE BUDGET FOR THIS PROGRAM.

WE HAVE NO OTHER PROJECTS HERE AND AT THIS TIME NO RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SERVICE LEVEL OPPORTUNITIES.

I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT OUR AGREEMENT DOES PROVIDE FOR FULL TIME AND THREE PART TIME EFFORTS TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES HERE IN CLAY COUNTY. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> BACK IN THE DAY, WE USED TO SEE A TRUCK.

IS THAT AN ANTIQUATED TECHNOLOGY THESE DAYS?

>> THAT HAPPENS AT NIGHT WHEN THE MSQUITO POPULATION IS ACTUALLY OUT. THEY SPRAY WITH TARGETED PRODUCTS THAT HAVE A REALLY SMALL DROPLET SIZE THAT REALLY MOSQUITOES. BUT THAT DOES HAPPEN, IT'S A GPS OPERATED SYSTEM AND THEY DO SPRAY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

>> DOES THE MOSQUITO CONTROL TEAM, HOW DO THEY DICTATE WHERE THEY DO THAT? IS IT UPON REQUEST, ARE THERE

HOT SPOTS? >> THEY DO TRAPPING.

SO THEY LOOK AT ACTUAL POPULATION AS WELL AS THE WATER TO SEE WHAT TYPE OF LARVA IS OUT THERE.

BUT IT IS ALL MONITORED BY THAT GPS SYSTEM, SO IT IS ON A REGULAR SCHEDULE BASED ON THE CONDITIONS, THE WEATHER, ALL OF THOSE THINGS TO MAKE SURE IT'S PROPERLY MANAGED.

AND PART OF RECEIVING THAT FUNDING IS SHOWING THAT WE ARE ABIDING BY THE STATE POLICIES AND BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.

>> I'M SUPER PROUD OF CLAY COUNTY WITH THE MOSQUITO CONTROL. OUR BUDGET IS 290,000, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE ST. JOHN'S, IT WAS IN THE MILLIONS.

SO JUST A COUNTY OVER, A LITTLE BIT MORE WATER.

>> THEY HAD A MUSEUM, AND A HELICOPTER.

>> WE DEFINITELY GET A LOT OF VALUE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU LOOK INTO THE FTES WITH FOUR FULL TIME AND THREE PART TIME.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. I'VE SEEN BAT HOUSES.

HOW EFFECTIVE ARE THEY? I KNOW WE HAVE LARVA WE PUT IN

PONDS. >> WE DO HAVE CERTAIN FISH THAT WE CAN USE TO CONTROL THE LARVAE.

I'M NOT WELL VERSED ENOUGH ON THE BAT POPULATION BUT I CAN GET YOU INFORMATION ON THAT AS WELL WITH MANAGEMENT.

>> A NATURAL REMEDY AGAINST MOSQUITOES THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE

THE POISON. >> ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO ENCOURAGE OUR NATIONAL FIREMEN IS DEFINITELY A POSITIVE THING.

I CAN GET MORE INFORMATION ON THAT FOR YOU.

THANK YOU. >> ON DECK IS PUBLIC ASSISTANCE

SERVICES AND THEN VETERANS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.

JASON CLARK, OPERATIONAL MANAGER.

I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH VOLUNTEERS PROVIDING BEAUTIFUL BENEFITS AND WORKING THROUGH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

WE HAD A VERY SMALL CHORUS OF ONE PERSON, A DEPARTMENT OF ONE.

KEEP CLAY BEAUTIFUL HAS MANY WONDERFUL ADOPTEES.

THEY'VE DONE MANY GREAT CLE CLEANUPS.

SO WE GOT INTO THAT. BUT OUR OPERATION BUDGET WILL COVER OUR KEEP CLAY BEAUTIFUL EFFORTS AND PROGRAM.

OUR CORE SERVICE RIGHT NOW, WE DO WORK WITH DELINQUENTS WHO HAVE BEEN DIVERTED THROUGH A PROGRAM.

WE DO 26 EVENTS PER YEAR. WE WORK WITH CLAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO ASSIST IN THAT OPERATION.

THAT'S WHERE WE DEFINITELY DO THAT.

WE HAVE AN EVENT THAT WE HOST ANNUALLY WITH THE COUNTY THROUGH SPONSORSHIP IN OUR KEEP CLAY BEAUTIFUL EFFORTS.

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WE HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER ON THAT.

WE ARE OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. >> HOW MUCH DOES IT COST IF YOU

WANT TO ADOPT A MILE? >> IT DOESN'T COST ANYTHING RIGHT NOW. DISCUSSIONS ON FUTURE SPONSORSHIPS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED, AND WE ARE HOPING TO

LOOK INTO THAT. >> IF I MAY, WE DID EVALUATE THAT MORE. WE'VE WORKED WITH ERIC TO COME UP WITH MORE NUMBERS AND ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT TO COME UP WITH A DOLLAR FIGURE. IF A COMPANY WANTS TO ADOPT A MILE BUT DOESN'T WANT TO GO DO THE CLEANUP, HERE IS THE DOLLAR FIGURE AND DO WE HAVE THE CONTRACT TO SUPPORT THE CLA

CLAIMANT. >> WE WOULD LIKE IF THE ROTARY CLUB ADOPTS THE MILE THEY DON'T PAY ANYTHING AND WE PUT UP A

SIGN. >> OUR CURRENT ADOPTEES ACTUALLY

PERFORM THE CLEANS. >> WE PROVIDE GRABBERS, GLOVES, BAGS, DIFFERENT TOOLS. I THINK IT'S A COOL PROGRAM.

>> YOU'VE BEEN A PART OF IT, SO THANK YOU.

>> QUESTION FOR YOU. WHAT'S THAT COST A YEAR?

A. >> THAT IS SPONSORSHIP.

THAT DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING RIGHT NOW.

SO WE WORK WITH OUR GRANTS TEAM TO SPONSOR, MAKE SURE THAT THE SPONSORED EVENT AT NO COST TO THE COUNTY.

>> I'M GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT BECAUSE OF YOU, I THINK YOU'RE THE MOST EFFICIENT DIVISION IN THE WHOLE COUNTY, QUITE HONESTLY. JOB WELL DONE.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE SERVICES. UNFORTUNATELY, THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE MANDATED BUT UNFUNDED. SO MANDATED BY THE STATE, BUT THERE'S NO FUNDING PROVIDED. SO YOU SEE THE COST OF THESE AND THE CORE SERVICES THAT FALL UNDER THESE AS THE INDIGENT AND UNCLAIMED REMAINS SERVICES. WE DO SOME COSTS WITH THE COUNCIL ON AGING, OUR OLDER AMERICAN ACT.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT A MANDATE, SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AGAIN LATER. FORENSICS EXAMS FOR CHILDREN WITH PHYSICAL ABUSE, ABANDONMENT, NEGLECT, THAT IS A MANDATE THAT WE HAVE TO FUND. OUR MEDICAL EXAMINER SERVICES THAT MANDATED COMMUNITY AND COMMODITY DISTRIBUTION THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY IS A MANDATE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE WILL SHOW THE CONTRACTS WE HAVE. THESE ARE PROVIDED BY OUTSOURCED SERVICES. THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE PROVIDES THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S SERVICES AND THAT'S APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR AND DUVAL HANDLES THE THREE COUNTIES, CLAY, DUVAL AND NASSAU. THEY HAVE A FEE SCHEDULE THAT WE DON'T GET A CHANCE TO NEGOTIATE, SO WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THOSE FEES.

CHALLENGE ENTERPRISE HAS PROVIDED OUR COMMODITY DISTRIBUTION FOR THE COUNTY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

THEY DO A GREAT JOB, THEY DO FIVE LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. IF SOMEONE'S UNCLAIMED THEY PASS AWAY IN THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY HAS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE FUNERAL HOME AND THAT'S THAT $999 PER CASE. THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA PROVIDES THE EXAMINATION OF THE CHILDREN, AND THAT'S ON A PER CASE BASIS. IT'S $300.

WE SET ASIDE $20,000 IN THE BUDGET EACH YEAR FOR THAT.

SOME OTHER MAJOR THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO FUND OF COURSE IS MEDICAID ASSISTANCE. WE HAVE OUR SOLID WASTE EXEMPTION FEES, AND THEN YOU SEE THE COST OF THE UNCLAIMED IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 50,000 A YEAR. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS ON THAT FOR YOU. >> WHAT ARE THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR RESIDENTS FOR SOLID WASTE EXEMPTION?

>> MILTON IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT ON HIS SLIDE.

THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING.

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RIGHT NOW OUR PERSONNEL IS FUNDED AT 342 WITH THE PROPOSAL OF 352. OUR OPERATING COST IS GOING DOWN FROM 54 TO 48. ONE OF THE BIG MOVES IS COMING INTO THIS BUILDING. THERE IS NO CAPITAL OR OTHER.

OUR CORE SERVICES, CLAY COUNTY SAYS 28,000 VETERANS, OF WHICH WE WERE RANKED AT 20TH IN THE STATE AS HAVING VETERAN POPULATION. IN THAT WE ARE AVERAGING YEARLY 8000 OFFICE VISITS. RIGHT NOW, FLORIDA HAS 27 BILLION IN INDIRECT AND DIRECT BENEFITS TO VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES. CLAY COUNTY IS $483 MILLION.

WE ALSO CONDUCT OUTREACH HERE IN CLAY COUNTY, ESPECIALLY ONE OF THEM WE DO IS KEYSTONE WHERE WE GO DOWN TO KEYSTONE TO MEET OUR VETERANS DOWN THERE. WE ALSO DO TABLING AT A LOT OF EVENTS SO THAT WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND LET VETERANS KNOW THAT WE ARE HERE TO SUPPORT THEM.

LIKE I SAID, WE ALSO HAVE OUR RESOURCES.

RESOURCES GO OUTSIDE OF THAT WITH OTHER PARTNERED PROGRAMS LIKE OPERATION BARTIMUS, WOUNDED WARRIOR, AND SUCH.

IN ORDER TO PREVENT HOMELESSNESS, IN ORDER TO PREVENT GETTING INTO FINANCIAL HARDSHIP.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OUR EXTERNAL CONTRACT, RIGHT NOW WE ARE FOCUSING ON TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND A PROGRAM THAT CAN COME IN AND UTILIZE THAT SPACE SINCE THE LEASE IS TO AUGUST OF 2027. NOW WE ARE LOOKING INTO SEEING WE CAN TERMINATE THAT LEASE, HOPEFULLY.

THERE IS NO OTHER MAJOR COST, AND THE SERVICE LEVEL OF ADJUSTMENT OPPORTUNITY. NORMALLY WE SEND THE THREE VSOS TO GET TRAINING. WE HAVE TO DO IT IN MAY.

IN MAY WE GO TO GET THE CERTIFICATION, AND THEN IN OCTOBER NORMALLY WE GO AGAIN, BUT THE IDEA IS TO SEND ONE LIKE TRAIN THE OTHERS. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> WHERE'S THIS CONFERENCE AT? >> THERE'S TWO LOCATIONS.

THE MAIN ONE IS IN ORLANDO AND THE OCTOBER 1 IS IN TOWN.

ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

>> UP NEXT WE HAVE MIS, AND DEAN'S GOING TO TAKE US ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO RADIO SYSTEMS WHICH IS A VIEW OF HIS DEPARTMENT, SO ON DECK WILL BE COMMUNICATIONS.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMIS COMMISSIONERS.

WE ARE A SERVICE ORGANIZATION, MEANING WE MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR PEOPLE CAN DO THEIR WORK SO THEY CAN SERVE.

OUR SERVICES GENERALLY CONSIST OF SIX GENERAL AREAS.

THE FIRST AREA WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT ARE TECHNOLOGY SUPPORT AND CUSTOMER SERVICE. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT FIX OUR PCS, THAT WORK ON YOUR LAPTOPS, HANDLE YOUR CELL PHONES, THE SECURITY SYSTEMS, THE DAY-TO-DAY FOR ANOTHER SEGMENT OF OUR BUSINESS IS THAT WE OFFER CYBERSECURITY AND OPERATIONAL RESILIENCE SERVICES AND FUNCTIONS, DISASTER RECOVERY AND CYBERSECURITY AND DATA SECURITY STANDPOINT.

THE THIRD AREA OF OUR SERVICES TO THE COUNTY ARE WHAT WE CALL OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND NETWORK CONNECTIVITY TEAMS. WE'VE GOT CLOSE TO 50 SITES NOW IN THE COUNTY WITH TECHNOLOGY THAT ALL HAVE TO BE CONNECTED. WE'VE GOT TO ENSURE THAT

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NOT TO MENTION OUR SERVER ENVIRONMENT, EMAIL ENVIRONMENT.

IF I MOVE OVER TO OUR FOURTH, FIFTH AND SIXTH AREAS, YOU TALK ABOUT OUR ENTERPRISE BUSINESS SYSTEMS WHICH REALLY MEANS OUR SOFTWARE SYSTEMS. WE HAVE VERY LARGE SOFTWARE COMPONENTS HERE THAT SUPPORT OUR HR SYSTEM, FINANCE SYSTEM, PURCHASING SYSTEM, I'M TALKING ABOUT WORKDAY.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHER ONES. MICROSOFT OFFICE SUITE AND A VARIETY OF OTHER ENTERPRISE LEVEL SOFTWARE APPLICATIONS.

ON TOP OF THAT, AND WE ARE PUSHING 25 DEPARTMENTS OR WHATEVER NOW, MOST OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS HAVE VERY SPECIFIC SOFTWARE THAT THEY NEED FOR THEIR OWN OPERATIONS.

THE FIFTH COMPONENT OF OUR SERVICES ARE PUBLIC SAFETY.

IN OUR HOUSE WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE 911 SYSTEM FOR THE COUNTY, THE PUBLIC SAFETY -- PUBLIC SAFETY RADIO SYSTEM, AND ALSO COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH FOR FIRE SERVICE.

AND FINALLY OUR SIXTH COMPONENT, WHAT WE CALL OUR GIS AND ANALYTICS. WE DELIVER MAPPING AND ADDRESSING, WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF -- REPORTING.

I'M SURE YOU'VE USED OUR MAP SERVICES BEFORE.

ANALYTICS. I'M SURE MOST OF YOU ARE READING ALL THE STRATEGIC PLAN REPORTS. WE HAVE STAFF THAT HELP DEVELOP APPS FOR THAT SO YOU COLLECT ALL THAT INFORMATION AND VIEW.

WE ARE IN THE WORLD OF DATA DRIVEN DECISIONS NOW.

THAT'S OUR CORE SERVICES. WE SUPPORT THE STRATEGIC PLAN MOSTLY THROUGH AN INITIATIVE TO ENSURE THAT OUR TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE DOES NOT GO ANY LONGER THAN ONE YEAR PAST END OF LIFE. THOSE REASONS ARE REALLY FOR SUPPORTABILITY AND SECURITY. OUR WORK CHANGES VERY QUICKLY AND WE'VE GOT TO KEEP UP. SO THAT'S KIND OF A CORE SERVICES, HOW WE SUPPORT THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS UP TO THIS STAGE? I'M NOT SURE I WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE.

IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO, YOU CAN.

I WOULD LIKE TO HIT THE SWEET SPOTS HERE.

WORKDAY IS EXPENSIVE, BUT WE HAVE ALMOST ALL THE CONSTITUTIONALS ON IT IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

RINGCENTRAL IS ANOTHER EXPENSIVE ENDEAVOR WE HAVE FOR ENTERPRISE, CLOUD TELEPHONE SYSTEM. BUT WE HAVE ALL CONSTITUTIONALS EXCEPT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR THAT.

AND CERTAINLY OUR MICROSOFT ENTERPRISE LICENSES FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE EMAIL AUTHENTICATION AND VALIDATION.

TROY, CAN YOU MOVE DOWN TO THE NEXT SECTION?

>> WHEN YOU SAY SHARED USE, IS THAT SHARED COST TWO?

>> NO SORRY. >> CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION ON WORKDAY? WE WERE PAYING FOR A PERSON THAT WORKED FOR WORKDAY, OR MULTIPLE PEOPLE.

ARE WE STILL DOING THAT? >> THIS IS A GOOD CONVERSATION.

AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE HAD A PURCHASE ORDER FOR OUTSIDE WORKDAY SUPPORT CONSULTING FOR 150000.

AT THAT SAME TIME THE LAST FALL WE BROUGHT ON A NEW WORKDAY PERSON IN OUR DEPARTMENT. SHE'S AMAZING.

SHE HAS DONE SO MUCH WORK FOR US THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD TO USE VERY MUCH OF THAT CONTRACT AT ALL. IN FACT, WE HAVE JUST PROCESSED A CHANGE ORDER TO THE PURCHASE ORDER FROM 115,000 DOWN TO 75.

SHE SAVED US OVER $100,000. YOU GET THE RIGHT PERSON IN THE

RIGHT ROLE. >> PERFECT, THANK YOU.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT IF WE CAN HOP DOWN TO MAYBE PROJECTS QUICKLY. AT THE HIGH LEVEL, SUPPORTING OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, SERVERS, PCS, LAPTOPS.

JUST TALKED TO YOU ABOUT WORKDAY SERVICES.

I THINK THE COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH PROJECT IS ON PAUSE RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE SORT OUT A GAP.

WE HAD THIS MONEY SET ASIDE TO IMPROVE OUR SYSTEM FOR FIRE RESCUE AND WE START WORKING WITH THE VENDOR AND THEY GAVE US SOME

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SO WE ARE ON PAUSE UNTIL WE SORT THAT OUT.

THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE AREN'T LOSING ANY SERVICES.

WE ARE STILL ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT SAME LEVEL OF SERVICES.

LET'S GO TO SERVICE LEVEL ADJUSTMENTS.

>> THE CLAY COUNTY FIRE RESCUE -- WHY ISN'T THAT THERE?

>> THERE'S A LOT OF BACK END I T WORK THAT RESIDES WITH US, INCLUDING COORDINATORS, SERVERS, REPORTING.

WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF LINKS. CAD IS NOT A STAND-ALONE SYSTEM.

IT'S GOT FINGERS THAT TOUCH MANY OTHER AREAS, THE PUBLIC SAFETY ENVIRONMENT, A VARIETY OF AREAS. I THINK YOU HEARD THE CHIEF TALK ABOUT GRAVITY AS OUR NUMBER 1 CONTRIBUTOR.

ALL THAT INFORMATION IS CONTAINED THROUGH CAD.

SO WE HAVE A TECHNOLOGY, THAT TOOLS AND TRAINING TO SUPPORT THAT SYSTEM. FROM OUR STANDPOINT IT KIND OF MAKES SENSE IF WE CAN SUPPORT THEM OUR WAY AND THEY SUPPORT US

BY SHOWING UP WHEN WE NEED THEM. >> I WANT TO BACK YOU UP TO

SLIDE 70. >> THAT'S AUTOCAD.

>> WHY DO WE NEED AUTOCAD? >> ENGINEERING ACTUALLY USES IT QUITE A BIT. AND WE HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE ON OUR STAFF. WHEN CONTRACTORS SUBMIT PLANS TO US, THEY'RE ALMOST ALWAYS IN C CAD.

AND THEIR RAW FILES. WE CAN ALL AGREE ON RAW FILES,

THERE'S NO MANIPULATION. >> I'D LIKE TO TAKE THAT ONE STEP FURTHER. USING AUTOCAD TO DO IN-HOUSE DESIGN, BECAUSE IF NOT WE WOULD BE SPENDING MORE MONEY TO HAVE OUTSIDE PEOPLE DO THE DESIGN. IF WE HOP DOWN TO SERVICE LEVEL ADJUSTMENTS AND OPPORTUNITIES, I GUESS THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE. I'M LISTENING TO OTHERS AND I'VE READ THROUGH THE SLIDES. WE LOOK AT THIS EVERY SINGLE DAY. WHAT'S OUR SERVICE LEVEL ADJUSTMENT? IF WE'RE NOT HIRING PEOPLE, OR WE HAVE A WAYS TO GO BEFORE WE FILL STAFF, THAT MEANS WE CAN SHUT OFF A LICENSE, TURN OFF A CELL PHONE, TURN OFF SOMETHING.

IT'S EVERY DAY FOR US. AND WHEN CONTRACT RENEWALS COME AROUND, HERE'S ANOTHER ONE. I THINK EARLIER TODAY WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE ACROSS THE BOARD. WE DID A RENEWAL FOR PART OF OUR CYBER PROGRAM A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

THE NUMBER CAME BACK REALLY HIGH.

AND THIS IS OFF OF THE STATE CONTRACT.

WE OURSELVES CALLED THE VENDOR AND JUST SAID, WE ARE IN A JAM HERE. THIS IS UNREASONABLE.

SO BECAUSE WE ASKED FOR A DISCOUNT, WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCOUNT. SO GOING BACK TO EVERY DAY, THIS IS US EVERY DAY ASKING FOR SOME KIND OF BETTER DEAL.

AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO OFFER IT.

WE'VE GOT TO ASK. >> CAN I STOP YOU RIGHT THERE A MINUTE? I AGREE WITH YOU TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, BUT RECENTLY I HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH BUSINESS OWNERS, BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE CONVERSATIONS THEY DON'T LIKE THAT'S WHEN THEY CALL US. I'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING SQUEEZED ON THE BACK END.

SO I GET IT ON THE FRONT END OF A CONTRACT, SO IF IT GOES OUT FOR BID AND JESSICA PUTS IT OUT AND IT COMES BACK, AND IT'S NOT PRICING THAT MEETS THE BUDGET AND THAT KIND OF THING.

BUT ASKING A CURRENT VENDOR TO CUT THEIR PRICES SO THEY CAN REPORT TO THE COUNTY MANAGER THAT THEY GOT THIS CUT, THAT EATS INTO SOMEBODY'S BUSINESS. AND THE PERSON WHO CALLED ME IS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER THAT DOES BUSINESS WITH CLAY COUNTY BY CHOICE, NOT BY NEED. AND WANTS TO CONTINUE DOING THAT. I JUST WANTED TO STOP YOU THERE BECAUSE UNTIL AMENDMENT THREE PASSES, WE COULD BE HAVING A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. BUT WHAT THE PERSON CALLED ME AND SAID IS, I PAY MY TAXES. SO WHAT, THE SKY IS FALLING? AND HE SAID, HAS THE BOARD DIRECTED THE COUNTY MANAGER TO ASK THESE THINGS? AND IT WAS A DIFFERENT SITUATION BUT I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE I WANTED TO BRING IT UP.

THAT'S NOT THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS IN CLAY COUNTY EITHER.

THE PERSON SAID TO ME, CLAY COUNTY IS DIFFICULT ENOUGH

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IF I'M GOING TO GET SQUEEZED I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT. IT WAS EMBARRASSING, FRANKLY.

BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DIRECTED ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO I'M ON BOARD WHEN CONTRACTS COME UP OR SITUATIONS.

BUT TO REVISIT IT IS ONE THING. I DON'T KNOW.

MAYBE YOU ALL FEEL DIFFERENTLY, BUT I WAS REALLY CAUGHT OFF GUARD AND IT WAS REALLY EMBARRASSING.

>> CAN YOU ELABORATE MORE WHAT YOU MEAN?

>> AN INVOICE HAD COME IN AND THE DEPARTMENT CALLED AND ASKED THEM TO CUT THEIR INVOICE. ON ALREADY NEGOTIATED PRICES.

>> I MAYBE SHOULD HAVE COUCHED IT A LITTLE BETTER IN THE SENSE THAT -- SOFTWARE. WE BUY OUR SOFTWARE THROUGH SOME PURCHASING VEHICLE WHERE WE CAN, AND THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. WHAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST MANY MONTHS IS A HUGE SPIKE IN TECHNOLOGY COST.

IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO SEE SOFTWARE RISE BETWEEN 7-12%.

IF WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT, THAT'S ANOTHER STORY.

BUT WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER SPECIFIC SOFTWARE COSTS THAT HAVE REALLY IMPACTED US THAT HAVEN'T BEEN BUDGETED FOR.

SO THE FIRST ONE WAS THE MIGRATION.

WE'VE SPENT $20,000 FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

WE GOT THE CALL LAST FALL SAYING CALL ME YOU'VE GOT SIX MONTHS TO MIGRATE BECAUSE WE AREN'T GOING TO SUPPORT YOUR PRODUCT ANY MORE, BY THE WAY. THE NOW PRODUCT IS NOW $35,000 A YEAR, UNBUDGETED. THE SECOND SPECIFIC EXAMPLE I CAN GIVE IS THE AGENDA SOFTWARE. WE STARTED OUT WITH NOVUS.

FAST FORWARD TO ONE, IT'S GONE UP CLOSE TO 30,000.

AND THE VENDORS, THE PEOPLE THAT WRITE SOFTWARE, WE ARE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT.

AND IN THESE TWO INSTANCES I WILL SAY, VERY SHORT FUZES TO REACT. WE HAVE TO CONDUCT OUR BUSINESS.

TO SOME DEGREE IT'S THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS.

BUT OUR PUSHBACK IS, IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE IN THE LONG TERM.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS IS THE WHOLE INDUSTY.

SO TALKING ABOUT SOFTWARE. I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF THE PRICES OF HARDWARE GOING UP, SKYROCKETING.

SERVERS, PCS, NETWORK GEAR. HUGE SPIKE.

WE USED TO GET A QUOTE THAT WAS GOOD FOR 45 OR 60 DAYS.

NOW THE QUOTE HAS GONE DOWN TO 30 DAYS.

THE QUOTE IS ONLY GOOD FOR TEN DAYS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW FAST THIS IS MOVING. AND IT'S BEING DRIVEN BY THE AI FOLKS. MOST OF THE AI FARMS HAVE BEEN BUYING CHIPS IN BULK IN PREPARATION TO SPIN UP THEIR DATA CENTERS. AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT'S GOING TO LEVEL OFF FOR ANOTHER 18 MONTHS OR SO.

WHEN WE BUDGETED $100,000 LAST YEAR FOR SERVERS, THIS YEAR, THAT SAME HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IS GOING TO BUY 60 OR 70% OF THAT. I'M HERE TO TELL YOU, WE HAVE SOME SERIOUS CONSTRAINTS, BUT AGAIN EVERY DAY WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. WE ARE IN A TIGHT SPOT.

WE'VE BEEN IN A TIGHT SPOT FOR A WHILE.

I JUST WANTED TO COVER SOME THINGS WE'VE ALREADY DONE.

I TALKED ABOUT WORKDAY ALREADY. I THINK I MENTIONED TO YOU BEFORE, WE SAVED $66,000 ON THE LICENSES ON MONDAY.

WE ARE TRANSITIONING ABOUT OF -- OUT OF THAT.

OUR TELECOMMUNICATIONS BILL HAS GONE DOWN, THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OVER THE LAST NINE MONTHS. THEN, ONE OTHER COMMENT THAT I WILL SAY IN SUPPORT OF REORGANIZING, 28 POSITIONS ACROSS THE BOARD. WE ARE HERE TO HELP BRIDGE THE GAP. SURE, UNDERSTOOD.

YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT 911 OR NOT?

>> I THINK WE ARE GOOD. THANK YOU.

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>> IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS -- AND WHAT'S THE NEXT DEPARTMENT, ANY QUESTIONS. THAT MAY GET YOU THROUGH SOME OF

THESE A LITTLE QUICKER. >> LET ME JUMP IN.

WE LOOKED AT THIS AND JUST THE DATA, THE SERVICE LEVEL ADJUSTMENTS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT GREEN COVE SPRINGS, THEY HANDLE 4.8 CALLS A DAY.

ORANGE PARK HANDLES EIGHT CALLS A DAY.

SO COMPARED TO SHERIFF'S OFFICES, 206 CALLS A DAY AND FIRE RESCUE 70 CALLS A DAY. SO ELIMINATING IT IS I THINK AN ISSUE WE NEED TO LOOK AT. WE CAN ABSORB THOSE INTO OUR CURRENT WITHOUT DEGRADATION OF SERVICE.

AND MAY ACTUALLY INCREASE EFFICIENCY OF SERVICE.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

ANY QUESTIONS OF COMMUNICATIONS? >> THOSE WERE ADDRESSED ON

PREVIOUS SLIDES. >> GOOD JOB.

A LOT EASIER THAN I THOUGHT. >> I THINK WE'RE ON

ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES NOW. >> YES, AND UNIVERSAL COLLECTION

AND PUBLIC WORKS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS. ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, IN ESSENCE, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION THROUGH THE HANDLING, COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL OF SOLID WASTE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COUNTY WHETHER THAT'S COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, INSTITUTIONAL. ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES IS SPLIT UNDER TWO FUNDS, BOTH OF THESE BEING ENTERPRISE FUNDS, MEANING WE DON'T RELY UPON THE GENERAL FUND, BUT IN ESSENCE IT IS SELF-FUNDED. FIRST I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THE DISPOSAL FUND. THIS IS THE OPERATION OF MOST PARKS. THIS IS THE GIST OF ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AS FAR AS MOST OF THE STAFFING, ALL OF OUR FACILITIES COMES UNDER THE DISPOSAL FUND.

THE INCREASE THIS YEAR, YOU'LL SEE A DECREASE IN PERSONNEL SERVICES FOR 1.5 FTESPRQ YET WE ARE AT ALMOST $450,000 INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR DUE TO CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS, AND THAT INCLUDES CPI INCREASES ALONG WITH GROWTH.

SO MORE WASTE COMES IN, OUR COST TO HANDLE IT AND SHIP IT OUT GO UP. BUT THAT INCREASE IS ALSO KIND OF OFFSET BY THE FEES FOR THAT. SO OUR MAJOR CONTRACTS ON IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, THEY ALL SUPPORT OUR OPERATIONS, DISPOSAL COST, REQUIRED STATE PERMITTING TYPE REQUIREMENTS.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT ONE OF THE LARGER AGREEMENTS, WHICH IS THE LONG TERM CARE OF ALL OF OUR LANDFILLS, WE HAVE TEN IN THE COUNTY. BUT ALSO PART OF THAT CONTRACT IS LITTER COLLECTION, PICK UP ON ROSEMARY HILL ROAD AND COUNTY ROAD 215 BETWEEN HIGHWAY 16 AND THE PARKWAY.

THAT PICKUP IS DONE MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK.

IF UNSECURED LOADS ON THE ROUTE TO AND FROM A SOLID WASTE FACILITY, THERE'S USUALLY MORE THERE.

WE TAKE THAT ALL AND KEEP THAT ALL FOR PUBLIC WORKS.

AS FAR AS OUR CAPITAL, IT IS SUBSTANTIALLY LESS THAN THE

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SO THEY SHOULD GIVE THEM A MORE PROPER BUILDING.

SERVICE LEVEL ADJUSTMENTS, SO THOSE ARE HERE.

THERE ARE ONLY TWO THAT DIRECTLY AFFECT THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE WE ARE REIMBURSED FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

OTHER POTENTIAL SAVINGS WOULD BE DISCONTINUING THE FREE DISPOSAL, CLOSE ALL OR SOME OF THE ECCS. THOSE ARE BASICALLY A DUPLICATION OF SERVICES AS WE HAVE SERVICES AND CURBSIDE PROGRAMS. DOING SO WOULD ALLOW THE DISPOSAL PROBABLY NOT TO BE RAISED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE SAVINGS IN THOSE TWO THINGS OF ABOUT $2 MILLION. AND YOU CAN SEE THE AMOUNT IN THE DISPOSAL ASSESSMENT FOR THE EXEMPTIONS FOR THE VETERANS EXEMPTIONS, 384,000. WHEN YOU ADD THEM ALL TOGETHER, IT'S ALMOST $1.5 MILLION NOW FOR THE TOTAL OF THE EXEMPTIONS.

AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE OTHER HALF.

>> I WON'T SUPPORT SHUTTERING ANY OF THE ECCS.

AND THREE OF THEM ARE IN MY DISTRICT, BUT THEY ARE HEAVILY

USED. >> MADAM CHAIR, BEFORE YOU LEAVE THAT SLIDE, VETERAN EXEMPTION. IS THERE ANY OTHER COUNTY OR MUNICIPALITY THAT PROVIDES A VETERAN EXEMPTION?

>> THERE ARE NONE IN FLORIDA THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED.

AND WE DID LAST YEAR THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE LOOKED AT COUNTIES AND WE DIDN'T FIND ANOTHER DOING A VETERANS EXEMPTION. THERE ARE SOME THAT DO A HARDSHIP EXEMPTION, BUT MOST OF THOSE ARE A PARTIAL EXEMPTION.

THERE'S SOME DOLLAR AMOUNT OR SOME PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT. THEY'RE NOT A HUNDRED% LIKE OURS IS. CLAY COUNTY'S VETERANS EXEMPTION, THAT WAS ADOPTED PRIOR TO THE STATE VETERAN EXEMPTION. SO THE DYNAMIC HAS KIND OF CHANGED WITH THAT ADDITIONAL EXEMPTION AND OF COURSE AT THE TIME OF ADOPTION OUR RATES WERE LOWER AND THERE WERE MANY FEWER APPLICANTS. SO WE ARE SEEING A RAPID INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE QUALIFYING FOR THAT EXEMPTION

YEAR OVER YEAR. >> THANK YOU.

>> SO THE COLLECTION FUND, THE INCREASES ARE PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF OUR CONTRACTUAL CPI ADJUSTMENT AND GROWTH.

OUR TWO MAJOR CONTRACTS, COLLECTION AND THEN WE HAVE TO BUY CARTS TO SUPPORT GROWTH AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE LOOKING FOR EXTRA CARTS. THIS IS THE COST FOR ABOUT 2000 IS WHAT WE BUDGETED. THOSE TWO CONTRACTS MAKE UP 96% OF THE TOTAL COST OF THIS FUND. SO THEY ARE STRICTLY ATTACHED.

ALL OF THE OTHER COSTS, THE COSTS FOR THE TAX COLLECTOR TO COLLECT THE ASSESSMENT, OUR PERSONNEL COSTS, ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS, ARE ALL MADE UP OF THE 4% IN THIS FUND.

AND AGAIN, WE HAVE THE NUMBERS FOR THE SAVINGS FOR VETERANS IN HARDSHIP, AND THEN AN OPTION, THERE IS NO OPTION TO REDUCE

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NOT THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IT. BUT A SERVICE LEVEL OPTION WOULD BE TO REDUCE YARD TRASH COLLECTION.

THE AMOUNT OF SAVINGS IS A BEST ESTIMATE IN TALKING TO PEERS AND TALKING TO OUR COTRACTOR WITHOUT ACTUALLY...

BUT IT WOULD SAVE IN THE RANGE OF 20-25%.

AND THAT NUMBER REPRESENTS A 20% SAVINGS.

WITHOUT CHANGING THE PER COLLECTION VOLUME.

IF WE DOUBLE THE VOLUME LIMIT ON AN EVERY OTHER WEEK BASIS THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY SAVINGS.

>> WEIGHT, WHAT DID YOU SAY? WHAT WAS THE LAST THING YOU

SAID? >> THE PROJECTION FOR THAT EVERY OTHER WEEK YARD TRASH IS KEEPING THE 3 CUBIC YARD LIMIT PER COLLECTION. SO WE HAVE 3 CUBIC YARDS PER WEEK. THAT IS FOR 3 CUBIC YARDS EVERY OTHER WEEK, NOT 6 CUBIC YARDS EVERY OTHER WEEK.

>> OKAY. GOOD.

ANYBODY WITH QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

>> IF I COULD MAKE A SUGGESTION, CHAIR.

DUE TO THE TIME AND KNOWING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET TO SOME DECISIONS BY 1:00, YOU MAY JUST WANT TO DO TRULY BY EXEMPTION.

IF WE'VE ALL LOOKED AT THE BOOK, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS. I THINK TO LEAVE TIME FOR SERVICE ADJUSTMENTS IN THAT DISCUSSION, MOST OF THE REST OF THE FUNDS DO NOT DIRECTLY AFFECT THE GENERAL FUND.

SO THAT MAY BE A METHOD TO GET THROUGH.

>> ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON WHAT ERIC HAS?

>> IS THAT DISTRIBUTION FOR ALL COUNTY VEHICLES, FIRE RESCUE,

SHERIFF? >> YES, SIR,.

>> AND SEVEN ADDITIONAL OTHER ENTITIES.

>> IS THERE A FEE ATTACHED? THEY PAY FOR THEIR OWN FUEL? IS THERE A FEE ATTACHED FOR ADMINISTRATION OF THE SERVICE?

>> NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. >> COMMISSIONER RENNINGER, HOW

WOULD THAT WORK? >> LIKE A GAS TAX.

TO BUILD TO CONTRACT. WE DO ALL THAT WORK FOR ALL THE

CONSTITUTIONS. >> I WOULD SAY FOR THE CONSTITUTIONAL, IT'S A WASH BECAUSE YOU'RE FUNDING THE WE DO CHARGE A 10% JTA MANAGEMENT FEE.

>> I THINK THIS WOULD BE AN ENTICEMENT TO CONSERVE, I THINK.

IT'S A COST WE BEAR AND THERE'S NO HARM, NO FOUL.

>> YOU'RE GOING TO CREATE AN ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN.

>> BUT IF IT COSTS MORE IN MY BUDGET EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE FUNDING IT, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK FOR MORE MONEY.

>> PUT IT ON THE LIST, WE'LL LOOK INTO IT.

>> ANYONE ELSE? >> I'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH IDLING POLICY IN THE COUNTY. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ONE.

SO THIS MAY INSPIRE OTHERS TO COME UP.

>> NEXT IN WOULD BE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS ON BUILDING DEPARTMENT? ENGINEERING?

>> AND YOUR BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR ENGIN

ENGINEERING? >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

IN MY BRIEF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ALLOCATIONS.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT ENGIN ENGINEERING, WHICH CATEGORY IS

IT UNDER? >> IT'S IN THE FOURTH BLUE BOX, BOTTOM LINE. I THINK YOUR QUESTION WAS THEY

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>> SO WE WENT FROM 2011 ALL THE WAY TO 2019.

WE HAVE 5.5. THEN WE WENT TO 14 AND NOW WE'RE AT 20. I DO UNDERSTAND IN THE BRIEF THEY WERE SAYING WE WERE DOING A LOT MORE PAVING THAN WE HAVE EVER BEEN. BUT WHERE'S THE 5.5 TO 20?

>> I'LL DO MY BEST TO EXPLAIN IT AND MAYBE THE COUNTY MANAGER AND OTHER FOLKS ALONG WITH ME. IN 2011...

BUT WHEN I GOT HERE, THAT ONE COUNTY ENGINEER THAT WAS ALSO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT -- AND A LOT OF MY EMPLOYEES CAME FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

I THINK IT WAS A WAY OF SEPARATING TASK AND PUBLIC WORKS INTO THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. WOULD BE MY BEST EXPLANATION.

>> SO SINCE 21 WE HAVE NOT INCREASED.

>> THE TWO THINGS WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT BEFORE WAS...

AND THEN THE INCREASE RECENTLY BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING MORE SUBDIVISION INSPECTIONS AND THE RIGHT OF WAY INSPECTIONS.

WHICH YOU REMEMBER FROM YOUR BRIEF, THAT WAS ONE OF THE AREAS OF ADJUSTMENT WE SUGGESTED YOU COULD POSSIBLY MAKE WOULD BE TO IMPLEMENT RIGHT AWAY INSPECTIONS TO HELP OFFSET THAT.

>> RIGHT. WHERE'S THE PUBLIC WORKS LINE?

>> STREETS AND DRAINAGE. IT'S ABOUT 4-5 ABOVE.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY WENT FROM 93 DOWN TO 88.

>> CORRECT. THAT MAKES SENSE.

THANK YOU. >> COST RECOVERY.

WHERE DO WE STAND ON RECOVERY? >> THAT'S A RISK MANAGEMENT ISSUE. THE GUARDRAIL FUND IS THERE JUST SO WE CAN FIX IT NOW. INSTEAD OF WAITING ON IT.

>> IF WE KNOW WHO DAMAGED THE GUARDRAIL, IF THEY ARE TICKETED AND CITED WITH THE POLICE REPORT THEN I CAN PURSUE THEIR INSURANCE CARRIER OR DRIVER DEPENDING ON THE INCIDENT.

BUT IF IT IS IN RUN WE AREN'T GOING TO GET ANY MONEY BACK.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA? >> WE HAVEN'T RECOVERED ANYTHING THIS FISCAL YEAR FOR GUARDRAILS. A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE RECOVERED 6-$8000. IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE HAD ANYBODY GET TAGGED FOR THEIR HIT AND RUNS.

>> AND ALSO JUST TO EXPLAIN HOW USUALLY WHEN WE DO ENTER, WHEN WE FIND THE PERSON AND ENTER INTO IT YOU'RE USUALLY HAVING TO PRORATE BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH COVERAGE AND WE'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE OTHER VEHICLE OR THIS VEHICLE AND IT'S ALL

PRORATED. >> THAT'S A COMMON THING.

THERE'S $10,000 AND TYPICALLY THERE'S AT LEAST ONE OTHER VEHICLE INVOLVED, SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SHARE THAT LIMIT WITH WHATEVER WE ARE GOING TO GET.

IT'S BEEN AT LEAST A COUPLE YEARS SINCE WE'VE DONE ANY MONEY

BACK. >> THIS PROBABLY GOES BACK TO PROJECT 515, GUARDRAIL REPLACEMENT.

WHY WOULD WE HAVE TO REPLACE GUARDRAILS? THEY'LL GALVANIZED STEEL, THEY DON'T RUST USUALLY.

AND IT ALSO DOESN'T MEET THE CURRENT STANDARDS.

>> THE GUARDRAIL REPLACEMENT, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE EVER USED THAT, BUT WE WILL IF WE HAVE TO. WE'VE USED IT WHEN WE'VE GOT

INTO ACCIDENTS. >> THAT'S REALLY WHAT THAT WAS SET UP FOR, BECAUSE THE COUNTY WASN'T REPLACING GUARDRAILS,

WHICH PUT YOU AT A LIABILITY. >> THEN WE HAVE GUARDRAIL

REPLACEMENT, HUNDRED THOUSAND. >> WE'E NOT OUT THERE LOOKING FOR GUARDRAILS TO REPLACE. ONE MORNING WE COME IN, SOMEONE WAS ABLE TO HIT BOTH GUARDRAILS ON THE BRIDGE AND LEAVE, AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO CLOSE THAT ARTERY, OBVIOUSLY.

SO BY 10:00 WE HAD THE GUARDRAILS REPLACED.

THAT'S THE GUARDRAIL REPLACEMENT I'M AWARE OF.

BUT WE AREN'T GOING LOOKING FOR WORN OUT GUARDRAILS.

>> THIS IS THE CONTRACT WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOMEONE UNDER CONTRACT.

THAT'S HOW MUCH IT WAS BUDGETED IN CASE YOU NEED TO USE THAT

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CONTRACT. >> IT'S NOT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. ONE IS THE CONTRACT WE WERE HOLDING AND THE OTHER IS THE ACTUAL BUDGET LINE ITEM.

>> THAT'S HOW WE PUT THEM UNDER CONTRACT FOR.

>> THEY MAY NOT GET ANY. IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACCIDENTS.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? THE 5800, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT ONE. COMBINING AND HAVE ONE.

JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION ON THE SIX.

WE'VE HAD 16 OF THEM MEET, AND WE ANTICIPATE FOUR MORE.

SO WITH A GRAND TOTAL THE DOLLAR FIGURE YOU HAVE HERE IS 116,000.

TEN OF THOSE CACS WERE FOR ONE SINGLE ITEM.

THEY WERE CONVENED FOR ONE SINGLE ITEM.

THAT'S 62% OF ALL THE MEETINGS JUST FOR ONE ITEM.

SO WE THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY.

>> MADAM CHAIR, QUICK QUESTION. DOES THAT CHANGE IF WE MAKE THE

MEETINGS VIRTUAL? >> WHEN YOU SAY VIRTUAL WHAT DO

YOU MEAN BY THAT? >> IS IT THAT IT HAS TO BE PUBLIC? THAT'S KIND OF CRAZY TO ME IN 2026, YOU CAN'T RUN A LIVE PUBLIC VIRTUAL MEETING.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S OTHER COUNTIES THAT DO THAT.

DURING COVID PEOPLE SURE MADE IT HAPPEN.

>> THE GOVERNOR MADE THAT HA HAPPEN.

WE CAN LOOK AND SEE. I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ADDED I T ISSUE. JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE CAN ALLOW ALL THE GUESTS. I LOOKED AT IT FOR THE PUBLIC

>> INCLUDING TRAINING OF THE MEMBERS ON THE COMMITTEES, WHICH, TRYING TO GET UP TO 11 MEMBERS TRAINED AS A CHALLENGING

THING. >> I'M WITH YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

I THINK THAT IS A CORE FUNCTION OF GOVERNMENT.

THAT'S THE CITIZEN'S VOICE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

>> AND THEY ARE INVOLVED IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

AND ANOTHER PERSON ISN'T GOING TO CARE SO MUCH IF YOU'RE NOT IN THAT COMMUNITY. THAT'S WHY WE AREN'T PROPOSING ELIMINATING, WE ARE PROPOSING COMBINING INTO ONE.

BUT ONLY ONE PERSON FROM EACH. YOU COULD HAVE TWO.

CONCEIVABLY YOU COULD HAVE TWO OR THREE.

>> I THINK I WOULD HAVE 11 ANGRY PEOPLE.

>> OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT.

WE APPRECIATE IT, DEFINITELY. HISTORICAL PRESERVATION BOARD.

>> SPDC, HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

HAVE WE EVER APPROACHED CHAMBER TO PICK UP THIS FUNCTION?

>> I'M GOING TO SEND THAT QUESTION TO CHERISE.

>> THEY PAID FOR THAT IN THE PAST AND THEN STOPPED.

>> THAT'S MORE IN THEIR WHEELHOUSE THAN OURS.

I THINK WE COULD APPROACH THEM, MAYBE NOT DO THIS ANY MORE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, CHAMBER?

>> ANYBODY ELSE? WE'LL JUST THINK ABOUT THAT ONE.

HOW MANY MEETINGS DO THEY HAVE? >> THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE FOUR ANNUALLY. THEY HAVE TEN.

AND KIND OF LIKE THE CACS, THEY ARE VERY BRIEF MEETINGS BUT DO REQUIRE DEPUTIES TO BE HERE HALF AN HOUR BEFORE THE DURATION OF THE MEETING AND AFTER AS WELL AS THE CLERK'S OFFICE.

>> HOW LONG ARE THEIR MEETINGS USUALLY?

>> MAYBE ABOUT AN HOUR. >> CODE ENFORCEMENT?

ANY QUESTIONS? >> I'M MAKING A RECOMMENDATION

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IF THERE'S A VIOLATION THERE OUGHT TO BE A CHARGE.

>> IF THERE'S A VIOLATION. BECAUSE YOU MIGHT JUST HAVE A COMPLAINT AND THEY STILL HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.

>> THERE SHOULD BE AN INITIAL CHARGE JUST RIGHT FROM THE GET-GO. WHICH IS UNENCUMBERED BY --

>> I THINK THAT'S HEAVY HANDED AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY I THINK THAT IS. I THINK THAT YOU COULD HAVE A

CODE VIOLATION AND NOT KNOW IT. >> I'M KIND OF WITH YOU.

I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING AND I DON'T DISAGREE.

WITH WHATEVER IT IS, 30 DAYS IF NOT AT THAT POINT, --

>> YOU COULD BE NOTIFIED. SOME VARIATION OF THAT.

WE HAVE WAY TOO MANY CODE VIOLATIONS.

YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF THAT, OUTSTANDING AND FOR LONG TERM,

SOME 20 YEARS. >> CAN WE JUST LOOK AT YOUR

RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT? >> CAN WE ALSO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED POLICY AS BEING AUTOMATIC, ANY COSTS TO THE COUNTY WHETHER IT'S ADMIN OR --

NOT RESOURCES. >> IT'S STAFF COSTS BUT IT'S ALSO POSTAGE AND ANY PAPER WE HAVE TO PUT IN THE MAIL.

WE ARE ALREADY MAKING THE BARE MINIMUM.

SO I'M CURIOUS WHAT'S THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THAT AND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH.

>> I GO OUT AND LOOK AT CODE VIOLATIONS.

YOU DON'T COUNT ANY OF THAT TIME THAT I'M OUT THERE.

>> AND I WOULD SAY YES, AND NO. BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK TO SEE WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO. IF SOMETHING COMES TO Y'ALL OR SOMEONE SAYS, I WANT TO CLEAN IT UP AND I'LL PAY WHATEVER WE OWE, THAT IS HOW WE CALCULATE STAFF COSTS, WHICH SOMEONE UP HERE HAS SAID. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AS WELL. MAYBE THERE'S OTHER WAYS WE CAN ADDITIONALLY SEE IF WE CAN ADD THOSE COSTS.

>> AND WE ARE REQUESTING TO INCREASE THOSE CHARGES FOR THE LEAD REDUCTION APPLICATION, THE CASE IS, APPLICATION FEES.

WE'RE GOING TO REQUEST TO INCREASE THOSE FEES.

>> I THINK SOMEBODY MENTIONED THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS.

>> FOR LIENS WE ARE GOING TO REQUEST RESEARCH FEES INCREASE.

AND THE LIEN REDUCTION FEES, THE APPLICATION PROCESS, WE'RE GOING TO BE REQUESTING THOSE FEE INCREASES.

THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO REQUEST THE AMNESTY PROGRAM COME BACK.

LAST YEAR WE HAD 16 PROPERTIES COME THROUGH OVER 17000 COLLECTED. SO WE'RE GOING TO REQUEST THAT.

>> AND THEN FORECLOSURES, THE REGISTRATION FEES.

WE HAVE A CONTRACT COMING UP FOR RENEWAL THAT WE MAY SEE IF THERE'S AN INCREASE FOR THOSE FEES.

THAT'S QUITE A BIT OF MONEY. THAT'S THE FORECLOSURES RIGHT

HERE, PART OF IT. >> LEVEL ADJUSTMENT.

>> FOR THE VACANT PROPERTY REGISTRATION COLLECTED LAST YEAR, OVER 88000. SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE.

>> GREAT. ANY OTHERS? ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THE NEXT TWO ARE TOURISM. >> HELLO COMMISSIONERS.

I AM SAMANTHA COSTNER, WITH CLAY COUNTY TOURISM.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR TOURISM? >> 125,000.

>> YES, SIR. THAT'S A CONTRACT.

WE'VE EXPLORED CHANGING THAT TO A GRANT PROGRAM WHERE THEY HAVE TO APPLY FOR THE MONEY AND THAT'S CURRENTLY IN DISCUSSION.

>> RIGHT. NOW YOU JUST GIVE THEM $125,000

A YEAR AS BASICALLY A CONTRACT. >> WE RENEW THAT CONTRACT EVERY

YEAR? >> YES.

>> AND THERE'S SOME QUID PRO QUO FOR THAT?

>> YES. THE COUNTY IS ABLE TO RENT THE FACILITIES FOR VARIOUS PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

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>> SO IF WE GET THAT... >> IT USED TO BE WE WERE TRYING TO GET THEM UP AND RUNNING. THERE WAS JUST A DONATION BASIS.

>> AND OUR UPCOMING TDC MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, BOB OLSEN WILL BE PRESENTING AN UPDATE TO COUNCIL AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A PUBLIC MEETING. SO IF YOU DON'T NORMALLY ATTEND THE TDC MEETING BUT WOULD LIKE TO TUNE IN ONLINE, HE'LL BE PROVIDING STATISTICS REGARDING THAT CONTRACT.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> CAPITAL PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM.

MANAGEMENT? >> SIT DOWN.

GOOD JOB. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR RISK

MANAGEMENT? >> HUMAN RESOURCES.

>> HAVE WE USED ANY ADDI? >> YES.

WE DON'T HAVE A HAPPY ENDING STORY, BUT, YES, THEY HAVE BN

USED. >> ON THE ALLOCATIONS IT SAYS RISK MANAGEMENT HAS TWO, BUT ON THE SLIDE IT SAYS PERSONNEL IS

2 MILLION. >> YES.

WE ARE AN IMPORTANT DEPARTMENT, SO THE TWO OF US, WE NEED THAT MONEY. NO.

HAPPILY, THE $2 MILLION INCLUDES THE WORKER'S COMP AMOUNT THAT WE PAY AS WELL. THAT'S FOR WORKER'S COMP CLAIMS

AND WORKER'S COMP COVERAGE. >> AND IN BUDGET THAT IS

CONSIDERED A PERSONNEL COST. >> THAT'S LIKE WORKER'S COMP

INSURANCE? >> CLAIMS THAT INSURANCE

COVERAGE. >> AND BEFORE THE QUESTIONS ASKED, WE DO BACK CHARGE WORKER'S COMP TO ALL THE ELIGIBLE DEPARTMENTS AND CONSTITUTIONALS.

>> ALL LAUGHING ASIDE, IT'S NOT VERY TRANSPARENT.

BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN AN INCREASE -- WE CAN'T SEE WHAT KIND OF CLAIMS WE'VE HAD, WHAT KIND OF EXPERIENCE WE HAVE.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT. >> MJ AND I HAVE THE BREAKDOWN BY DEPARTMENT BY AGENCY OF THE COST AND THE COST ALLOCATION STUDY, IT'S BROKEN ALL DOWN EXACTLY WHICH AGENCY AND

DEPARTMENT. >> THAT BEGS THE QUESTION, WHAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE THERE BEEN INFLATED PERSONNEL COSTS BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE FROM THE STATE?

>> THIS IS WHERE THE STATE ACCOUNTING TELLS YOU TO PUT IT.

>> WE DEFINITELY LIKE TO KNOW WHAT OUR EXPERIENCE LEVEL IS.

>> I UST GOT ADJUSTED YESTE YESTERDAY.

>> DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE EXPERIENCE IS, THE WORKER'S COMP

EXPERIENCE? >> AS FAR AS COST EACH YEAR?

>> WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WHAT IS OUR RATE.

>> AS FAR AS THE INJURIES. I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU.

>> IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW. WE NEED TO BE RUNNING A SAFES

[3. Board Discussion]

>> WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT REDUCING THE FTES IN THE PROGRAMING PORTION OF PARKS. THERE'S FOUR THAT JUST DO PROGRAMING. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT. CAMP CHOW, ONCE WE LOOK AT THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS OF THE DEED, MAKING CAMP CHOW A PASSIVE PARK, UNLESS THERE'S A GUARANTEE THAT WE ARE REVENUE POSITIVE IS SOMETHING THAT COULD SAVE US MORE THAN HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. AND DO I WANT TO DO THAT, NO.

BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN. SO J.T. A, BECAUSE OF THE RIDERSHIP BEING SO LOW, I ACTUALLY CALLED SOME REPRESENTATIVES. J.T. A RIDERSHIP AS AN ORGANIZATION, THIS IS AN ASTOUNDING NUMBER, IS 18% OF THEIR CAPACITY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR COMMUNITY WITH 247,000 PEOPLE AND THE 40 OR SO TRIPS THAT WE PAY

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ANOTHER 1.3. >> I DO HAVE 500000 FACTORED IN.

>> 800 MORE, OKAY. THE LAST TWO, I DON'T KNOW ANYONE ELSE'S THOUGHTS, BUT FOR ME, REDUCING OUR CONTRIBUTION SD UP. CITIZENS GOT INFORMATION.

I JUST THINK SIX COMMUNICATION STAFF IS TOO BIG.

IT'S TOO BIG FOR WHERE WE ARE AT.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW EVERYONE ELSE'S THOUGHTS.

WHICH ONES? SURE.

IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT PARKS PROGRAMING, THAT'S FOR PHDS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE WOULD EQUATE TO.

IF I HAD TO GUESS, 800,000. >> GENERALLY WE USE $100,000 AS A BASELINE BY THE TIME YOU FACTOR IN EVERYTHING ELSE.

>> JUST THE PROGRAMING. SO THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THE COUNTY WOULD NO LONGER OFFER, COME TO MOCCASIN SLOUGH AND PAINT THE ROCKS WITH US. COME TO RONNIE VAN ZANT AND DO FOOTBALL TRAINING. THE COUNTY WOULDN'T OFFER THAT.

THAT WOULD NOT COME FROM US. THE PARKS ARE STILL OPEN, WE CAN PARTNER WITH PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS, IT JUST WOULDN'T COME FROM THE COUNTY OFFERING THAT.

>> AND PEOPLE DO OTHER JOBS. SO HOW DO WE FIGURE THAT OUT?

>> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, OF THOSE FOR STAFF, AND JUSTIN CAN HELP ME TO, BUT THEY DO OTHER STUFF.

THEY AREN'T JUST ALWAYS OUT AT A PARK OR LIBRARY.

WE RAN OUT OUR PAVILIONS, WE RENT OUT DIFFERENT FACILITIES.

HUNTER DOUGLAS PARK, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY HANDLE RESERVATIONS. AND AS AN EXAMPLE THEY COLLECT THE RENTAL FEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THERE'S OTHER THINGS THEY DO. I WOULD JUST ASK, THE COUNTY PERSONNEL, CAN WE NOT JUST SAY FOR STAFF? WHAT STAFFING LEVEL IS NEEDED TO PROVIDE THOSE OTHER SERVICES?

>> THROUGH THE CHAIR, TALK TO ME ABOUT HOW MUCH CASH IS RECEIVED AT THE FACILITIES. HOW MUCH OF THAT CAN BE SENT DOWN THE LINE FOR RESERVATIONS AND BOOKING?

>> 100% OF IT HAS TO BE BY STATUTE IN JANUARY.

WE HAVE TO OFFER. THE OFFER HAS TO BE THERE BECAUSE THAT'S THE NEW STATE STATUTE.

WE MAY NOT BE DOING IT TODAY BUT WE'VE GOT TO GET TO THAT POINT BECAUSE IT'S A NEW STATE STA STATUTE.

>> AS FAR AS REVENUE, AS FAR AS THE RENTAL SIDE OF IT, FOR RENTAL FACILITIES LIKE HUNTER DOUGLAS AND PIERCE STATION, THE REVENUE WE ARE GENERATING FROM THOSE SITES IS AROUND 77000.

THAT'S PROCESSED THROUGH OUR DIVISION STAFF, REGIONAL SPORTS PLEX, ALL THE RESERVATIONS AND THE PROCESS OF RENTING THE FACILITY IS DONE BY STAFF AS WELL AS THE MAINTENANCE AND THE MANAGEMENT OF ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION AGREEMENTS, AS WELL AS THE GROUPS THAT USE OUR FACILITIES.

PLANTATION SPORTS COMPLEX, FOR EXAMPLE.

WE HAVE THREE FIELDS AND AT ANY GIVEN DAY WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS THERE TO RENT THE FACILITY FOR PRACTICES AND THE LIKE. ALL OF THAT IS HANDLED.

>> I GUESS WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THAT, IF WE ARE REALLY LOOKING DOWN TO IT, IF ONE PERSON COULD BE THE PERSON DOING ALL THE ACTUAL COORDINATING, SCHEDULING, ALL THAT, BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM TO CONSOLIDATE. THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BRING

THAT UP. >> MADAM CHAIR -- GO AHEAD.

>> I DID WANT TO SAY, THIS WAS BASED ON OUR STRATEGIC PLAN GOALS OF INCREASING PROGRAMING BY 35%.

>> AND LISTEN, I FEEL TERRIBLE DOING THIS, ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE.

THROUGH THE SAME VEIN OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DEVIATE OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

BECAUSE OUR PRIORITIES ARE GOING TO CHANGE.

AND UNTIL NOVEMBER, IF THAT WERE TO PASS, BY US NOT INCREASING

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BUT BY DOING THAT NOW, WE ARE POSITIONING THE COUNTY TO WHERE WE AND THAT'S A BIG REASON, YOU KNOW, OF KIND OF WHERE I'M AT WITH THAT.

>> WHAT WAS YOUR OTHER NUMBERS? THANK YOU, JUSTIN.

>> THE OTHER NUMBERS, CAMP CHOW, THAT WAS LIKE 600 --

>> GOING DOWN TO ONLY -- >> YEAH, ABOUT 500,000 BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT-- WE'D STILL HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT, YEAH, SO THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 500,000.

JTA FULL CUT WOULD BE 1.5 MILLION SO THAT'S WHAT 7,

800. >> NO JTA COMING THROUGH CLAY

COUNTY? >> NO.

YEAH. AND THEN THE...

THE UFA S IS TOUGH FOR ME. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT EXTENSION IS A STATE STATUE AND WE HAVE TO OFFER THAT.

BUT I DEFINITELY DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE SERVICED AT THE LEVEL THAT WE'RE AT. I HAVE YET TO FIND SOMEONE TO GIVE ME A GREAT REASONING OTHER THAN IT-- YOU KNOW, WELL, IT HELPS PEOPLE. WE'RE DIVING DEEP INTO A BUDGET, WE ALL HELP PEOPLE AND WE'VE GOT TO THOUGH KNOW HOW AND WHETHER THAT'S THAT'S --

WHAT WAS THEIRS? >> ABOUT 300,000.

>> SO FOR SAKE OF ARGUMENT LET'S JUST LOOK AT THAT, LOOK AT THAT FOR NOW. AND THAT'S KIND OF THE-- THAT'S

KIND OF -- >> YEAH.

TECH ALLOCATION, COMMISSIONER, AND ALSO THE COMMUNICATIONS COST ESTIMATE, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS FOR THOSE?

>> TECH ALLEGATIONS. >> YOU BROUGHT UP LEXAPOLL.

>> 37,000 BUT I WOULD RATHER KNOW ACROSS MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS HOW MUCH ARE WE PAYING IN SOFTWARE TO WRITE POLICY AND DO WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT? LIKE IF WE DON'T HAVE IT ARE NO POLICIES CREATED? I DON'T THINK THAT'S TRUE, YOU KNOW.

YOU GUYS ARE STARTING TO DO THE MATH UP HERE.

WE'VE GOT TO FIND MORE TO GET TO THAT.

>> A LOT CLOSER. >> WE'RE CLOSER, WE'RE CLOSER,

YEAH. >> GO AHEAD, TROY.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY IT'S ABOUT-- ROUGHLY ABOUT TWO

MILLION. >> THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.

>> JUST DOING BACK OF THE ENVELOPE HERE.

>> 1.5 LEFT. >> NOT THAT WE AGREE WITH THAT.

>> NO, BUT YOU GUYS AS A GROUP GIVE US DIRECTION ON BOTH EXPENSE THAT WE CAN CUT AND REVENUES THAT WE CAN GENERATE AND WE'LL GO BACK AND PLUG THEM INTO THE BUDGET.

>> ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER -- >> MA'AM, I'M SORRY.

>> MADAM CHAIR, REAL QUICK ON THE STAFFING AND FTES, I WOULD BE AMISS IF I DIDN'T POINT OUT AND THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE ON A PER CAPITA MANNING LEVEL THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

THE TOTAL NUMBER IS NONRELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY BACK IN 2008-2009 AND THE NUMBER 476.6 FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

IT'S LESS THAN WHAT IT WAS IN 2008 AND THE PER CAPITA NUMBER IS .983 AND 2008 AND 2009 IT WAS 2.795.

I HEAR THE BOARD. WE WILL TAKE A TAKE A TG SOME MORE AND CREATE MORE POSITIONS.

I WOULD LIKE THE LATITUDE NOT TO GIVE SOMEBODY A PINK SLIP AND TO NOT FILL A CURRENT EMPTY BILLET. AND WILL ALSO REORGANIZE-- I HEARD YOU LOUD AND CLEAR ON PROGRAMMING.

IF IT'S THE DESIRE OF THE BOARD TO REMOVE PROGRAMMING FROM PARKS WE WILL DO THAT AND UPDATE THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

IN REGARDS TO COMMUNICATION I WILL ADJUST INSIDE COMMUNICATION TO ENSURE THAT ADA AND... OH, THE MANNING OF THE BOOTH BACK HERE, THE MEDIA CENTER, THOSE TWO POSITIONS FALL UNDER COMMUNICATIONS AND I WILL REALLOCATE THOSE POSITIONS TO THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENT. THEY TOOK THAT ON, EWE, AS THEY-- YOU KNOW, AS THEY FORMED. BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS I WOULD LIKE TO ADJUST THE MANNING WITH THE CURRENT OPEN POSITIONS THAT I CAN SO THAT WOULD MEAN I WOULD DIRECT AUBRY TO STOP HIRING PROBABLY I WOULD GUESS SIX PEOPLE, RIGHT?

APPROXIMATELY THAT WAY. >> SORRY, THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WAS ALREADY DONE.

SO THAT WASN'T ALREADY-- LIKE WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET?

>> THERE'S POSITIONS WHERE WE HAVEN'T COMPLETELY STOPPED

HIRING PEOPLE. >> RIGHT.

>> WE FROZE POSITION THAT IS WE WERE ABLE TO REALLOCATE THE JOB

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>> I WOULD OBVIOUSLY RATHER DO THAT BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS

AN OPTION. >> IS THE MONEY THERE?

>> YES, THOSE MONIES ARE IN THE BUDGET, YES, MA'AM.

>> AUBRY, WHERE IS AUBRY, C'MON UP HERE AND TELL US HOW MANY

YOU'RE HIRING FOR RIGHT NOW. >> I THINK IT DEPENDS, RIGHT? I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR ANYBODY TO LOSE THAT I JOB.

I WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD FOR THAT.

HOWEVER, IT'S A GRATER OPERATOR I DON'T WANT YOU TO NOT FILL.

CERTAIN THINGS THAT'S NOT THE SAME AS-- AS --

>> I AGREE. >> SO IT'S NOT AS CUT AND DRY AS

JUST -- >> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

>> BUT I DO TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT I JUST --

>> I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD KNOW WHICH MONIES-- WHICH POSITIONS ARE IN OUR BUDGET ALREADY THAT HAVE NOT BEEN FILLED THAT WE ARE

STILL NEEDING MONEY FOR. >> SO I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY THAT AND I APOLOGIZE, THE OBJECTIVE IS TO SET A BUDGET AND I'M ASKING TO MOVE THE POSITIONS AND MOVE POSITIONS AROUND. THE OBJECTIVE IS TO LOOK AT IT FROM A FUND LEVEL AND SAY CAN WE BALANCE THE GENERAL FUND OR NOT? IF IN THE FUND IS 80 FTES, HOW YOU DISTRIBUTE OR THE COUNTY MANAGERS DISTRIBUTE YOU'RE SETTING A PERSONAL BUDGET OVERALL. I DO AGREE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE POSITIONS THAT YOU DON'T FEEL A DEPARTMENT IS TOP HEAVY OR BOTTOM HEAVY, THAT'S A CONVERSATION YOU CAN EACH HAVE WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND FROM A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE AND YOUR OBLIGATION IS TO SET A FUND LEVEL BUDGET AND NOT AN INDIVIDUAL

DEPARTMENT-LEVEL BUDGET. >> -- SURE WE CAN DO THAT.

WE CAN SAY IF THE PERSONNEL BUDGET IS 10 MILLION AND THREE VOTES AND YOU SAY IT'S 8 MILLION.

YOU FIGURE IT OUT. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE SAYING CUT FIVE, GOT IT BUT THERE'S A BALANCE OF HOW MUCH YOU DO IN THIS ROOM VERSUS HOW MUCH YOU DO INDEPENDENTLY.

YOU'RE SAYING KEEP A GRATER OPERATOR --

>> I USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. >> THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE BUS IT DOESN'T-- BECAUSE IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE FUND.

>> IN TERMS OF THE INTERCHANGE, WE HEARD FROM ONE COMMISSIONER SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL GET A CHANCE TO EXPLAIN WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE, GIVE IT TO STAFF, AND THEY'LL MISHMASH IT AND COME UP WITH $8 MILLION WORTH OF SAVINGS HOPEFULLY.

>> GO AHEAD AND DO THAT, PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER, NEXT.

>> SURE. TO THAT END, COMMISSIONER RENDGER, THE TOPICS THAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION, THE AMBULANCE BUILDING CONTRIBUTION, I AGREE WITH MAINTAIN FOR SOMETHING TO COME BACK AND DISCUSS THE ELIMINATION OF THE AFLAND LEASE AND I WANT US TO LOOK AT ALL THE SYNTAX RENTALS AND SPECIFICALLY THE UNIFORMS. MY UNDERSTANDING IS 12

TO $13,000 PER DEPARTMENT. >> DO YOU HAVE THE AMOUNTS FOR

THE OTHER ONES YOU JUST SAID? >> YES, THE AMBULANCE BUILDING WAS A QUESTION MARK AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT BUT FOR THE

LEASE $214,000 -- >> EXCUSE ME, REAL QUICK, THAT WAS FACTORED IN THE VERY FIRST ITEM ON THE LIST.

I USED A DIFFERENT TERM AND I APOLOGIZE.

IF THE PURCHASE OF THE ELECTIONS PROPERTY IS THAT AFLAND LEASE,

YES, MA'AM, YES, MA'AM. >> THAT'S CONFUSING, TROY.

>> SORRY ABOUT THAT. >> GREAT, WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE SO BACK TO THE RENTALS 12 TO 13 PER DEPARTMENT.

>> I WOULDN'T SAY PER DEPARTMENT IN THE WHOLE COUNTY SO WE DID LOOK AT ALL UNIFORM BUDGET BUT THERE'S ONLY PARTICULAR DEPARTMENTS THAT GO IN AND DO THEIR RENTAL AND CLEANING.

PUBLIC WORKS, GROUNDS MAINTENANCE, BUILDING

MAINTENANCE. >> AROUND 80 TO $100,000.

>> THERE YOU GO. >> OKAY.

THIS WOULD BE INSTEAD OF THEM CLEANING THEIR OWN.

STILL HAVE TO HAVE IT. >> WE'LL LOOK AT OPTIONS WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER, WE BUY T-SHIRTS, TELL THEM YOU'RE ON

OWN, SORRY, OR IN BETWEEN. >> GROUNDS MAINTENANCE HAD A PREMIER ROUGHLY 139 TO $140,000. I ALSO LOOKED AT THE EXTENSION AGENT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME ALSO SO I'M CURIOUS, THE VSO CONFERENCE, THE PROPOSAL WAS 2300 BUCKS.

MIS HAD A PROPOSAL FOR 12,000 THAT I AGREE WITH.

I HAD A QUESTION FOR ERIC POPE, THE POND MOWING, THE

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JUST SOMETHING FOR US TO JUST SOMETHING FOR US TO CONSIDER AND THE IMPACT IF WE WERE TO GO INSTEAD OF FIVE TO FOUR.

>> I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. WE ONLY MOE NINE MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR. SO REDUCING IT IN HAPPEN.

SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. THANK YOU.

THAT'S CLEAR. >> DEPARTMENTAL.

>> NO. >> ENGINEERING, THE QUESTION ABOUT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY SERVICES, IT SOUNDED TO ME THAT WAS A REVENUE OPPORTUNITY, NOT NECESSARILY A CUT.

OKAY, GOOD. CURIOUS.

I AGREE WITH US LOOKING INTO US MOVING SBCD TO THE CHAMBER AND THAT GENERATING $100,000 IN SAVINGS.

TOURISM RECOMMENDED AN EVENT REIMBURSEMENT AS A LINE ITEM FOR YOUR 45,000. THAT LOOKED GOOD TO ME.

THERE WAS AMBIGUITY AS TO WHAT RISK MANAGEMENT WAS ACTUALLY TRYING TO BRING FORWARD. SO THEIR PROPOSED SAVING IS BETWEEN 25,000 TO $120,000. SO I'M NOT TOO SURE WHERE WE

LAND ON THAT. >> ARE YOU LOOKING AT SERVICE

LEVEL OPPORTUNITIES. >> YES.

>> THAT WOULD BE TO BE DETERMINED BASED ON HOW MANY FEWER ADS WE INSTALL THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND AS WELL AS TO BE DETERMINED FOR THE HR BUDGET VERSUS ABOUT TRAINING THAT OUR DEPARTMENT MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO FOR VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND OTHER VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS.

>> OKAY, SO JUST TO BREAK DOWN WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S A FIGURE-- IT'S A RANGE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THOSE DOLLARS AND CENTS ARE ALLOCATED. LIKE AS I SAID THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE HR DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS BUDGETING FOR THEIR COST FOR TRAINING OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT WE CAN DO BUT I DON'T HAVE

A DOLLAR FIGURE FOR YOU. >> OKAY, SO HERE'S THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE WITH THAT. IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT WE ARE TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT IT BUT I DON'T HAVE THE PARTICULARS TO DETERMINE IF THAT'S A GOOD IDEA AND YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU CAN'T

GIVE ME AN ANSWER. >> BECAUSE I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THE HR BUDGET AS THE HR FOLKS WOULD BE OR TROY OR --

>> OKAY. SO MAYBE SOMEBODY CAN CLARIFY WHY IT ENDED UP IN YOUR CALL CENTER?

>> IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HELP OUT WITH THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENT. SOMETHING THAT OUR DEPARTMENT

CAN TAKE ON. >> I'LL EXPAND THE SAFETY COORDINATOR FALLS UNDER RISK MANAGEMENT AND IF THE BOARD'S DIRECTION IS EXPLORE USING OUR SAFETY COORDINATOR TO DO MORE IN-HOUSE TRAINING VERSUS PUBLIC WORKS, ENGINEERING, WHOMEVER OUTSOURCING THAT TRAINING THERE COULD BE A CALL SAVINGS.

UNTIL WE GET KIND OF DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD OF IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WANT US TO PURSUE EVERY ONE OF THEM WERE OPTIONS TO PURSUE BUT EVERY ONE OF THEM WOULD TAKE RESEARCH TO FIGURE

OUT IF IT MAKES SENSE. >> LET ME HELP YOU WITH THAT.

23-YEAR-OLD BETSY WORKED FOR 600 EMPLOYEE BATTERY PLANT MANUFACTURER IN FLORIDA, A UNION SHOP, VERY DANGEROUS, AND I WAS IT FOR THE WHOLE COMPANY. SAFETY TRAINING OSHA MADE IT EASIER, I HAD TO MAKE MY OWN, THERE WASN'T POWERPOINT, I HAD TO MAKE MY OWN PRESENTATIONS THAT INVOLVED A FLIP CHART.

BUT I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE COUNTY DOES BECAUSE IT'S CONVENIENT BUT USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS SO I WOULD AGREE ON THOSE THINGS. THAT'S-- THAT'S A NICE TO HAVE, NOT A HAVE TO HAVE. WE HAVE TO DO THE TRAINING.

WE HAVE TO DO SAFETY TRAINING. >> IT'S GETTING RID OF PEOPLE.

>> IT IS, 100%. >> WE'LL GO BACK AND PULL ALL THE TRAINING TOGETHER AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S CONSENSUS FOR US TO LOOK AT THAT AND GO BACK AND PULL THE TRAINING TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT HOW MUCS GET MORE WORK.

WHICH WILL BE GOOD. >> CHARLES WILL BE HAPPY.

>> CHARLES WILL BE HAPPY. I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DON'T SAY WE DON'T HAVE TO GET TO AN EXACT-- I MEAN $8 MILLION TODAY.

WE HAVE TO GET AS CLOSE AS WE CAN.

MJ IS ABOUT TO THROW SOMETHING AT ME AND THAT'S FINE.

TODAY WE NEED TO KNOW THE REVENUES THAT WE HAVE, WHAT THE BOARD SUPPORTS IN CUTTING EXPENSES.

WE HEARD FROM TWO BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE REST OF YOU. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO GET MAX VILLAGE. WE HAVE TO GIVE YOU CONFIDENCE ON TUESDAY, WE HAVE TO HAVE CONFIDENCE TO GIVE YOU A NUMBER ON TUESDAY TO SAY WE CAN SUPPORT THIS BUDGET WITH THIS MILLAGE

RATE OR NOT. >> TROY, I HAVE TO PUSH BACK ON

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WHAT WAS SET OUT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING WAS WE'RE LOOKING FOR BOARD DIRECTION ON WHERE TO MAKE THOSE CUTS. AND WE ARE MEETING THAT ASK RIGHT NOW AND THEN FOR YOU TO SAY, HEY, I DON'T NEED A DOLLAR FIGURE, I NEED A MACRO APPROACH, I THINK IT'S INDIA MINING WHAT WE ARE-- I THINK IT'S UNDERMINING WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY TRYING TO DO IN A VERY SUBTLE WAY REBUKE US FOR GETTING INTO THE WEEDS. I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING RIGHT NOW.

>> I DID NOT MEAN IT THAT WAY, MA'AM.

WE SEEM TO BE RUNNING A TALLY TO GET TO EXACTLY $8 MILLION.

NOT REALLY YOURSELF BUT WE'VE BEEN ASKED SEVERAL TIMES IN THE LAST 30 MINUTES ARE WE AT 8 MILLION, ARE WE AT 8-- I DON'T WANT THE FOCUS TO BE WE GET TO 8 MILLION AND STOP HAVING THE CONVERSATION, I GUESS IS MY POINT.

>> OKAY. WELL, MAYBE I DIDN'T MAYBE I DIDN'T HEAR EVERYONE SAY REPEATEDLY THAT WE WERE GETTING TO 8 MILLION. I MISSED THAT.

>> YES, MA'AM, THAT'S MY POINT, I'VE BEEN ASKED SEVERAL TIMES, WHAT ARE WE AT NOW, WHAT ARE WE AT NOW? I DON'T WANT TO GET ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, STOP OR GO FOR ANOTHER

THREE HOURS JUST TO GET TO 8. >> I GET YOU.

ALL RIGHT. >> I JUST REALIZED THAT WE'RE COMING UP WITH A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS BUT NOT ALL WILL GET INTO THE BUDGET AND WE'RE NOT ALL GOING TO BE HAPPY.

I PERSONALLY DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH PINK SLIPS, OKAY? I DON'T THINK WE'RE AT THAT. THOSE ARE DRASTIC MEASURES AND I DON'T THINK WE ARE THERE. I'M GOING WITH WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED FROM THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, IF YOU LIKE I'LL GO DOWN WHICH ONES I CAN ACCEPT AND WHICH ONES I DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT BUT I MAY HAVE TO ACCEPT IN THE MAJOR BUDGET WHEN THE BUDGET GETS PRESENTED TO US. I'M LOOKING FOR A CONTRACT-- GOING DOWN THE LIST, AMBULANCE BILL, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT.

THE $214,000 I'M GONNA LET THAT GO BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING WE

DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH. >> WHEN YOU SAY LET THAT GO,

YES. >> IT'S ALREADY BEEN.

>> YES. >> IT'S ALREADY IN THERE.

>> IT'S ALREADY IN THERE. >> NO, NO, MOWING, I'M GOOD WITH 139,000. CUTTING SERVICES, ASSOCIATIONS, I DON'T AGREE WITH INCREASING THE FEES FOR DIFFERENT ATHLETIC ASSOCIATIONS. THEY'RE PROVIDING A VALUABLE SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND I DON'T THINK-- I THINK IT WILL BREAK THAT BOND THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM.

TURF CONTROL I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT.

REMOVAL OF THE PORTALET'S. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? NO. I DON'T WANT TO REDUCE.

PARKS AND REC, 88 PLAYGROUNDS, I'M IN FAVOR OF THOSE.

>> SORRY, JB, THE TREATMENT IS INCLUDED WITH THE ASSOCIATIONS, RIGHT? OR IS THAT TOTALLY SEPARATE?

>> NEVER MIND, GOT IT. I'M SORRY.

>> CAMP CHOW, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT BUT I DON'T WANT TO CLOSE THE POOL. THE LIBRARIES, I'M IN FAVOR OF ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT MARY RECOMMENDED.

VETERAN SERVICES, WHAT IS THAT THING? ONCE A YEAR, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. MIS, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM MIS. 911 WIRELESS, WE ESTABLISHED THAT, WE HAVE TOO MANY PEACE APPS, WE HAVE TOO MANY AND I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT RADIO TOWER MAINTENANCE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE COST IS THERE, BUT I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT.

ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, I THINK I'M IN FAVOR OF ALL FIVE ITEMS. UNIVERSAL COLLECTION, I'M IN FAVOR -- I'M IN FAVOR OF ALL THREE RECOMMENDATIONS. PUBLIC WORKS, REDUCE MOWING, 207,000, I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT. STORM WATER TREATMENT, I'M IN FAVOR A SINGLE TIME OF THE YEAR. REDUCED POND MOWING, I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT. RIGHT-OF-WAY INSPECTION SERVICES, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THOSE.

PLANNING AND ZONING, I WROTE YES ON ONE AND NO ON TWO.

ENFORCEMENT, I'M IN FAVOR OF ANYTHING THAT WOULD INCREASE OUR REVENUE IN CODE ENFORCEMENT. TOURISM, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF REDUCING THE-- THERE WAS A-- I'M NOT SURE, WHAT IS CROWD-- CROWD

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ANYBODY KNOW? >> SOFTWARE.

>> IT'S A SOFTWARE PRODUCT FOR DOING WEB SITE SCRAPING.

>> I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT. NO ON TOURISM FOR REDUCING THE GRANTS. RISK MANAGEMENT I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF REDUCING ADS, THEY'RE LIFE SAVERS, SO...

GRANT MANAGEMENT, THAT SHOULD BE AWASH.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS. IT'S STILL GOOD SERVICE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE AS LONG AS THEY'RE GETTING VALUE-ADDED FOR THE COST THAT IS CHARGED. NO ON THE FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH JTA, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT. CENTRAL SERVICE FOR ELDERLY, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT. JUST DOING AWAY WITH IT.

JACKSONVILLE MEDICAL EXAMINER? >> THAT SHOULDN'T BE ON THERE.

>> THAT SHOULDN'T BE ON THERE? THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE I SAID THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN GET RID OF THAT.

COMMUNITY HEALTH CARE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS.

WHAT SERVICE HEATHER PROVIDES BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT-- IT'S AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF OUR REQUIREMENT TO THE COUNTY.

RETIREE SUPPLEMENT. I'M NOT REALLY IN FAVOR OF THAT, THAT'S A PROMISE THAT WE GAVE THE RETIREES BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT IN FUTURE EMPLOYEES.

I WANT TO LOOK AT ACTIVE, RETIRED, MEDICARE, NO MEDICARE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT WHOLE THING.

LASTLY,-- REDUCTION. I'M IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING LESS THAN 3, 2.5. A THOUSAND DOLLAR BONUS, I'M IN

FAVOR OF BOTH OF THOSE. >> CAN WE JUST GET CLARIFICATIO-

>> THAT'S ALSO, SINTAS UNIFORM, WE NEED TO GET OUT OF I'LL CLEAN YOUR UNIFORM, PEOPLE CAN WASH THEIR CHAMBER.

IT'S EASY TO SAY WE'LL TRANSFER THAT TO THE CHAMBER BUT WE NEED

A WILLING PARTICIPANT. >> CAN WE GET CLARIFICATION ON THE JTA, ARE YOU SUPPORTING NOT HAVING JTA OR SUPPORTING KEEPING JTA OR... I'M...

>> I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN IT'S SUCH LOW RIDERSHIP.

HOWEVER, THE PEOPLE THAT DO RIDE, THAT'S THEIR RIDE OF LAST RESORT. UNLESS WE COME UP IF NOT JTA THEN WHAT? UBER?

WE HAVE AN UBER ACCOUNT? >> WE HAVE OTHER OPTIONS.

THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS. >> THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS.

>> OKAY, DO AWAY WITH IT. >> AND THE REDUCTION...

WE HAVE ALREADY PUT-- OKAY. IS THAT ALL THE CLARIFICATION THAT YOU NEEDED? OKAY.

COMMISSIONER. >> SO I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE MUCH TO ADD. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF ANY ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS ON OUR ASSOCIATIONS.

ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT ARE JUST ALL VOLUNTEER RUN AND STRUGGLE TO GET SPONSORSHIPS THAT TEND TO BE IN MY DISTRICT.

THE TURF QUALITY, THE GRASS, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT.

DEFINITELY NOT THE PORTA POTTIES.

BUT THE REST OF THAT FIRST PAGE I GUESS I CAN LIVE WITH.

ON THE SECOND PAGE I CAN LIVE WITH EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE ECCS.

I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT THAT. THEN THE VETERANS, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT.

THE MOWING FREQUENCIES ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT WILL IMPACT YOUR DISTRICTS FAR MORE THAN MINE.

MINE IS ALREADY THERE. SO NOT A BIG DEAL.

BUT THE STORM WATER PONDS I'M GOOD WITH.

ALL THE REST OF IT. THE RIGHT-OF-WAY INSPECTIONS I THINK THAT RICHARD HAS SOME GOOD IDEAS THERE FOR AT LEAST BEING COST NEUTRAL MAYBE. NOT IN FAVOR OF THE COMBINING OF THE CAC BUT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS REASONABLE.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING ON THE TOURISM BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY OUR REVENUE ON THE TOURISM SIDE THAT'S SELF--FUNDING. SO...

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I MEAN WE WANT TO SUPPORT IT BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT-- WE SAID WE WOULD TRY THE MODEL TO HELP THEM GET GRANTS IF THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AROUND UTILIZING AND IT ONLY GREEN COVE IS IF IT'S COSTING US MONEY.

>> IT'S NOT COSTING MONEY, WHAT IT'S COSTING YOU IS CAPACITY.

AT THE END OF THE DAY -- >> THAT'S MONEY.

>> THEY REIMBURSE YOU BUT THREE MORE GRANTS YOU HAVE FTES.

IF YOU RUN OUT OF CAPACITY THE THREE FTES EVEN IF THEY'RE PAYING FOR PART OF THOSE FTES YOU HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER EMPLOYEE OR STOP DOING AS MANY GRANTS. THAT'S WHY IT'S ON THE LIST.

>> WELL, I'M WITH COMMISSIONER RENNINGER OR PINK SLIPS BUT BEFORE WE HIRE THE FIRST PERSON WE NEED TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT THAT AREN'T-- THAT DON'T BENEFIT THE CITIZENS OF THE WHOLE COUNTY. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION BUT I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL THAT I WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE A LOOK AT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT WAS IN SUPPORT OF EVERYONE ELSE'S, JUST DIDN'T HAVE MORE.

>> THANK YOU. WHAT WAS THE FEE THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT MOST UTILITY COMPANIES HAVE TO PAY --

>> THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FEE THAT RICHARD'S SHOP IS CHARGE FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY INSPECTIONS. RIGHT NOW YOU'RE PAYING FOR STAFF FOR ALL OF THAT WITH NO REVENUE GENERATED.

>> OKAY. VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING THROUGH MINE.

I'M JUST GOING TO SAY WHAT I SAY IS NO.

THE MOWING AIN'T HAPPENING. AS FAR AS I CAN -- BECAUSE I GET

SO MANY CALLS -- >> WHEN YOU SAY "NO" --

>> I DO NOT AGREE WITH TAKING IT AWAY.

EVERYTHING THAT I SAY NO TO IS NOT TAKING IT AWAY.

THE ASSOCIATION IS NO. REMOVAL OF PORTA POTTIES, NO.

THEY WILL BE GOING TO THE BATHROOM EVERY SINGLE OTHER PLACE THEY POSSIBLY CAN AROUND THAT BOAT RAMP, IT WILL NOT BE GOOD. THE CAMP CHOW, I DON'T AGREE WITH TAKING AWAY THE POOL AND THE RENTALS.

WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD BE ABLE TO KNOW THE REVENUE IS THE VENUE THING.

AND THE CATERING AND ALL OF THAT.

IF WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AND WHAT WE SAID WE NEEDED TO WORK ON AND I KNOW TIMES ARE HARD BUT IF WE HAVE A CHANCE TO USE THAT FACILITY MORE WATERFRONT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN RESEARCH THAT BUT AS OPPOSED TO TOTALLY

GETTING RID OF THAT. >> IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO PURSUE WE CAN MAKE AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT WE THINK IT'S

GONNA BE. >> OKAY.

THEN THE ALCOHOL THING WITH THE WEDDING, I MEAN IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO-- WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO CHANGE THE ORDINATES OR JUST LIKE THE FAIR GROUND, CORRECT? OKAY, THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK INTO INSTEAD OF TOTALLY ELIMINATING. THE LINKEDIN LEARNING IS NOT ON THE LIST, ANOTHER 19,200, DID YOU MEAN FOR THAT NOT TO BE ON

THE LIST? >> IT CAN BE ON THE LIST FROM A PERSONNEL STANDPOINT, WE USE THAT FOR PERSONNEL TRAINING ALSO INTERNALLY SO IT'S A SPLIT USE BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT --

>> THEY PROPOSED IT. >> THE LIBRARIES PROPOSED IT BECAUSE THEY PAY FOR IT. AUBRY'S GOT TO LOOK AT WHAT THE COST ON THE OTHER SIDE IF WE HAD TO INCREASE THE TRAINING BUT TO COMMISSIONER CONDON'S POINT THERE'S FREE OR REDUCED COST --

>> I'LL OFFER UP MY SERVICES. >> AUBRY SAID WE COULD DO

WITHOUT IT. >> FREE.

>> DO YOU NOT AGREE WITH SHUTTERING ANY OF THE ECCS? DISPOSAL FEE, I DON'T WANT THAT TO GO.

I DON'T WANT THAT TO START. TO GO-- NO, I'M SORRY.

WHAT'S THE WORDING? I DON'T-- I WOULD NOT LIKE EVERYONE TO BE CHARGED EVEN BEFORE THE 500 POUNDS, YES.

OKAY. TOURISM, I DON'T WANT TO GET RID OF THAT. I THINK IT WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM THEM TOO MUCH. THE HISTORICAL RESERVATION, I WOULD LIKE TO DO QUARTERLY FOR THAT.

YOU SAID IT WAS A FOUR MINIMUM SO WE GO DOWN FROM TEN TO FOUR.

GTA, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE OTHER OPTIONS ARE.

IN OUR COUNTY MOST PEOPLE HAVE CARS AND MAYBE THAT'S WHY THE

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AGING TRUE. I WANT TO KNOW HOW TO INCREASE THEIR LEVEL OF SERVICE BECAUSE THIS IS-- HOT DOGS IS NOT GETTING. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO DO ABOUT THAT. I MEAN WE CAN'T ELIMINATE THEM BUT SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE. I THINK THAT WAS IT FOR THAT.

I HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS OFTEN HERE.

THE-- ON HERE. THE FILING OF A COMPLAINT OF ENFORCEMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK INTO IF WE ARE ABLE TO AFTER 30 DAYS, I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT IF THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN NOTIFIED I THINK THERE SHOULD BE-- SHOULD BE A CHARGE.

AND THE CONFERENCE, VETERAN SERVICE, 2300 I'M FOR THAT.

I THINK THE YARD WASTE I JUST THINK EVERY OTHER WEEK WOULD BE EFFICIENT FOR THAT. I ALREADY SAID INSPECTION SERVICES SO OKAY. THAT'S IT FOR ME.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY WAY OF KNOWING-- AND THE RISK MANAGEMENT YOU'RE GOING TO GET BACK ON THE PRICE.

ANYONE ELSE? GO AHEAD.

>> ARE WE CLOSE? >> I THINK THE DIRECTION --

>> I SAW YOUR WHEELS IN YOUR HEAD WERE TURNING.

>> I THINK WHAT WE HAVE TO DO NOW IS GO BACK TO THE BUDGET OFFICE AND DEFER TO MJ, WE'VE GOT TO PRESENT YOU AN IDEA OF WHETHER WE CAN MEET MAX MILLAGE OR NOT FOR TUESDAY.

MJ. >> YOU WERE CALCULATING.

ANY -- >> I'M PUTTING TOGETHER WHAT THE CONSENSUS IS TO THEN CALCULATE BECAUSE EACH ONE OF YOU HAD DIFFERENT CONSENSUSES ON THE DIFFERENT ITEMS SO TO TAKE THE CONSENSUS AND ADD IT UP I'M STILL IN THE ADDING UP PHASE BUT WE'RE CLOSE WITH THE CONSENSUS THAT I HAVE THERE.

>> WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER ROUND OF DISCUSSIONS IN AUGUST TO GET TO THE BUDGET AND FINAL BUDGET. SO.

>> WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION UNTIL THEN?

>> YOU'LL HAVE THE MAX MILLAGE ON TUESDAY YOU HAVE TO SET MAX MILLAGE BUT THIS AUGUST WE'VE GOT TO-- WE'LL BE PRESENTING YOU STUFF THROUGHOUT AUGUST TO GET TO A TENTATIVE BUDGET FOR

SEPTEMBER. >> MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD JUST REQUEST THAT AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THIS, I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE STAFF TO BE AS TRANSPRENT AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE SOME OF OUR COMMENTS WERE VERY VAGUE. I DON'T REALLY LIKE THAT BUT I DON'T WANT STAFF TO TAKE THAT AS CONSENSUS IF IT'S NOT SO-- OR THERE'S NOT THREE THAT SUPPORT THAT.

SO WHEN YOU BRING IT BACK TO US I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PROPOSAL OF, HERE'S EVERYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAVE SAID THEY'RE WILLING TO CUT. THAT WAY WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE

VOTING ON STRAIGHT UP. >> THEN WE CAN GO DOWN THE LIST.

>> CORRECT, CORRECT. >> AND PREFERABLY NOT THE LAST MEETING IN AUGUST BEFORE WE THEN HAVE TO PUT IT ON IN SEPTEMBER.

LIKE IT'S JUST, SOMETIMES IT FEELS LIKE IT GETS COMPRESSED.

I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE ANOTHER WORKSHOP.

A SMALL ONE. THIS A LOT.

I MEAN I FEEL LIKE WE HAD TO BE RUSHED.

I HAVE TO GET TO WORK. WE WERE RUSHED.

JUST LIKE YOU SAID, I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW THAT WE ARE --

>> WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON, AND WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON BECAUSE

SOME OF THESE HAVE SOME AFFECT. >> LOOK AT THE CALENDAR.

>> YES, MA'AM, WE'LL GET WITH TERESA AND ADD ON -- I'D JUST SAY TWO HOURS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN BLOCK OFF A GOOD AMOUNT.

I THINK AT THAT TIME-- I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO AND MJ'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, THROW SOMETHING AT ME I IMAGINE, PROBABLY LIKE ON MONDAY WE'LL GAGE WITH YOU INDIVIDUALLY ABOUT WHERE WE STAND ON IT SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE ON TUESDAY, WAIT A MINUTE, I DIDN'T REALLY AGREE TO THAT THING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK WE'LL-- WE'LL REACH OUT TO YOU INDIVIDUALLY FROM O & B AND TROY AND I WILL REACH OUT AND LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE STAND ON THAT.

AND LET YOU KNOW THE NUMBER OF WHERE WE'RE AT.

I DIDN'T WANT TO GET ONE CONSENSUS AND I'M GOING BACK TO THE PERSONNEL SIDE OF IT IN THAT I HEARD TWO SAY NO PINK SLIPS.

AND I GOT THAT. YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK I WAS GIVEN DIRECTION TO KIND OF MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE 'CAUSE I LOOK AT JUSTIN OVER THERE AND I'M SURE

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>> SO FOR ME THE ANSWER IS IT DEPENDS ON WHAT ELSE IS BEING CUT, RIGHT? SO FOR ME IF YOU WANT TO KEEP JTA I'M A NO. I WOULD RATHER REMOVE PARK PRO AND REMOVE THAT AND KEEP PARK PRO.

IT DEPENDS AND THAT'S WHY I MADE THE COMMENT OF WE NEED TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT AFTER THE DUST SETTLES AND EVALUATE FROM THAT.

I APOLOGIZE TO ANY DEPARTMENT. I FEEL TERRIBLE.

I'M NOT TRYING TO TARGET SPECIFIC PEOPLE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS I CAN, BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID IT DEPENDS, IT DEPENDS ON WHERE IT SHAKES OUT

AT. >> EXCELLENT.

>> AND ALSO THOUGHT THAT WE HAD ALREADY GONE DOWN AS FAR AS --

>> RIGHT, RIGHT. >> SO THAT GIVES ME --

>> NOW THAT WE AREN'T -- >> THAT GIVES ME CLEARER GUIDANCE. WHEN I LOOK AT JUSTIN RIGHT NOW HE SHOULD KIND OF SMILE A LITTLE BIT.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT WITH IT. SO-- AND AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL.

I KNOW WE'VE GONE OVER HERE A BIT AND WE HAVE SOME FOLLOW-ON BRIEFINGS INDIVIDUALLY HERE BUT THANK YOU.

UNLIKE PREVIOUS WORKSHOPS THAT WE'VE HAD WHERE ALL WE DID WAS CUT PROJECTS NOW IT'S DIFFERENT ON THIS ONE.

AND FULLY AGREE ON THE FOLLOW ON FISCAL YEAR OF WHERE WE WOULD STAND ON THE AMENDMENT VOTE. WE MAY BE HERE IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CAPACITY ON THAT. I JUST, AGAIN, WANT TO THANK THE STAFF AND EVERYBODY OUT THERE THAT HELPED US GET TO THIS POINT. THANK YOU ALL FOR GIVING US CLEAR GUIDANCE, WE'LL GET BACK THERE.

I'M VERY, VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN GET TO THE RIGHT NUMBER AND TO GET US THERE AND TO SAY THAT WE WOULD KEEP THE MILLAGE THE SAME AS THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR AS WE GO INTO TUESDAY'S MEETING.

>> ONE MORE THING TO SAY. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> TALKING ABOUT AMENDMENT 3, I MEAN WHOEVER IS LISTENING OUT THERE AND MEDIA, WHOEVER, IF YOU HAVE SEEN WHAT WE JUST HAD TO DO TODAY, WHAT WE WILL HAVE TO DO THEN IS SO MUCH MORE THAN THIS SO JUST KNOW THIS IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT.

WE DON'T WANT TO CUT ANYTHING BUT WE WILL HAVE TO-- WE'LL HAVE TO GO BIG AND SO-- ANYWAY. KEEP YOUR-- KEEP YOUR-- YOU KNOW, EDUCATE YOURSELF. THAT'S

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