3. National Mosquito Control Awareness Week (June 21-27, 2026) Commissioners wil recognize the Clay County Mosquito Control Program with a certificate in honor of National Mosquito Control Awareness Week.

[3. National Mosquito Control Awareness Week (June 21-27, 2026) Commissioners wil recognize the Clay County Mosquito Control Program with a certificate in honor of National Mosquito Control Awareness Week.]

RECOGNIZE STAFF WHO HELPED FACILITATE OUR SPIDER CONTROL PROGRAM WITH A CERTIFICATE HONOR OF NATIONAL SPEED CONTROL AWARENESS WEEK WHICH RUNS JUNE 21ST THROUGH 27TH IN 2026.

[PRESENTATIONS]

AND NEXT WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR PRESENTATION FOR THE ADAPTATION

PLAN. >> I AM BRETT CUNNINGHAM.

AND I WILL GIVE YOU JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE ADAPTATION PLAN.

WHICH IS A PROJECT THAT IS REALLY JUST IN THE BEGINNING AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION WAS REALLY TO SATISFY ONE OF THE GRANT AGREEMENTS. SO TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY, THE RESILIENT FLORIDA PROGRAM BEGAN IN 2021 THROUGH A LEGISLATIVE ACT. THERE WERE TWO -- UNDER THAT PROGRAM THERE WERE TWO TYPES OF GRANTS, THERE WAS THE PLANNING GRANTS THAT COVERS VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT, WHAT YOU HAVE DONE, WHAT YOU HAVE COMPLETED AND THEN FOLLOWING ALONG TO THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT IN THE ADAPTATION PLAN, THAT IS THE PROJECT WE ARE JUST STARTING. AND THEN PROJECTS FROM THE ADAPTATION PLANS ARE RELEVANT FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION GRANTS.

THAT IS ONE OF THE END GOALS TO THIS.

SO WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT GOALS AND BACKGROUND AND KIND OF REVIEW THE VA RESULTS. TALKING ABOUT THE FOCUS AREAS THAT CAME OUT OF IT AND THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE ADAPTATION PLAN.

SO WE HAVE COMPLETED -- OR YOU COMPLETED THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT THAT SAYS WHERE THE DEP GRANT IS AND WE IDENTIFIED SOME NEEDS AND STRATEGIES. THAT GIVES US A LEG UP FOR DOING THE ADAPTATION PLAN. UNDER THE ADAPTATION PLAN WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT AND WITH YOUR GUIDANCE, FOCUS ON PROJECTS TO ADDRESS YOUR PRIORITIES. THAT IS REALLY ONE OF THE TAKEAWAYS FROM TONIGHT IS TO REALLY BE THINKING ABOUT YOUR PUBLICLY OWNED ASSETS, WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO HAVE ADDRESSED IN THIS. SO THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT,

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AGAIN, COMPLETED ONE OF THE BIG THINGS IN THAT WAS IDENTIFYING CRITICAL COMMUNITY ASSETS. I WILL GO THROUGH THAT HERE IN A MINUTE. AGAIN, THIS IS REALLY BASED ON PUBLICLY OWNED ASSETS AND ALSO REGIONALLY OWNED ASSETS OF.

THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY MEANT TO ADDRESS PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTY. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT FUTURE EVENTS AND CURRENT CONDITIONS AND HOW RAINFALL EVENTS ARE PROJECTED TO GET LARGER IN THE FUTURE, WHAT KIND OF AN IMPACT DOES THAT HAVE ON YOUR COMMUNITY. AND WE GO THROUGH WITH EXPOSURE ANALYSIS AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THOSE A LITTLE BIT MORE LATER.

AND THEN FROM THOSE WE HAVE A RANKING OF WHAT YOUR BIGGEST PROBLEMS ARE. AND AGAIN, WE COME UP WITH IDENTIFICATION OF FOCUS AREAS. SO THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF YOUR CRITICAL ASSETS. AND JUST KIND OF HOW THEY SPREAD OUT ACROSS THE COUNTY. AND THIS IS CRITICAL ASSETS AS DEFINED BY THIS LEGISLATION. IT IS MOSTLY PUBLICLY OWNED ASSETS AND THEN SOME THINGS THAT ARE OF REGIONAL SIGNIFICANCE THAT MAY BE PRIVATELY OWNED HOSPITALS ARE A GOOD EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND YOU HAVE IN THE BALLPARK OF ABOUT 14,000 OF THOSE IN THE COUNTY.

AND THAT JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU A SNAPSHOT OF THE ASSET TYPES.

AND THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO LOOK AT.

>> WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BLUE AND GREEN THERE?

>> NON, REALLY. THESE ARE JUST FOR DISPLAY PURPOSES. IN THE LEGISLATION THERE ARE FOUR MAJOR CATEGORIES AND WE JUST LUMPED THEM INTO TWO FOR

DISPLAY PURPOSES. >> I WANT TO COMMENT ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE AND EMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT THERE IS 13000 DIFFERENT COMMUNITY ASSETS THAT ARE AT RISK.

>> I WILL SHOW YOU THOSE RESULTS IN A MOMENT.

THERE IS ABOUT 13,000 ASSETS, SOME OF THEM ARE AT RISK AND SOME OF THEM ARE NOT. AND THAT IS WHAT WE DETERMINED IN THE SENSITIVITY ANALYSIS. SO THE FIRST THING THAT WE DO IS THE EXPOSURE ANALYSIS. AGAIN, THAT IS DICTATED BY THE LEGISLATION. SO WE LOOK AT DIFFERENT FLOODING TYPES, WE LOOK AT TIDAL FLOODING, WE LOOK AT RAINFALL EVENTS. SO WHERE THE X'S ARE, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE MANDATED BY LEGISLATION.

SO WE LOOK AT EXISTING CONDITIONS, 20-40 CONDITIONS AND 20-70 CONDITIONS AND HIGH AND LOW IN THOSE.

SO ANALYSIS JUST IN TERMS OF LOOKING FORWARD AND HOW THAT IS GOING TO IMPACT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.

THAT IS THE EXPOSURE ANALYSIS. THEN WE NEED TO MAKE SENSE OF THAT. THIS IS KIND OF A CLASSIC SLIDE TO SHOW -- TO GO FROM EXPOSURE ANALYSIS TO A SENSITIVITY ANALYSIS. IMAGINE THAT THERE IS FLOODING ON THE GROUND AROUND THESE THREE HOMES.

WE WOULD SAY THAT THOSE THREE HOMES THAT HAVE THE SAME EXPOSURE TO FLOODING BUT THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT SENSITIVITY TO FLOODING. SO THE HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE OR THE HOUSE ON THE LEFT IS MAYBE GOING TO HAVE A HIGHER SENSITIVITY BECAUSE IT FLOODS FIRST.

THE OTHER PART TO SENSITIVITY IS ADAPTIVE CAPACITY.

SO MAYBE THE HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE ISN'T GOING TO HAVE QUITE THE ADAPTIVE CAPACITY OF THE OTHER TWO.

SO WE TAKE ALL OF THESE FACTORS INTO ACCOUNT WHEN GOING FROM THE EXPOSURE ANALYSIS TO THE SENSITIVITY AND WERE ABLE TO KIND OF PUT EVERYTHING IN THE BUCKET OF LOW MEDIUM HIGH OR NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL. AND THIS IS THE WAY THAT IT PLAYS OUT THROUGH THE WHOLE COUNTY.

SO FOR INSTANCE, FOR TRANSPORTATION THEY ARE BUILT FOR ALMOST 14,000 ASSETS, ALMOST 5000 ARE IN THE HIGH EXPOSURE, HIGH SENSITIVITY. AND THEN DOWN TO THE LOW.

SO A LOT TO GO THROUGH. WE WON'T GO THROUGH ALL 13,000, THIS IS KIND OF A SNAPSHOT OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT RESULTS.

>> MADAM CHAIR, CAN WE GO BACK BY ONE PLEASE? THE CATEGORICAL FOR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME EXAMPLES FOR WHAT THAT WOULD BE?

>> THAT WILL PROBABLY BE THINGS LIKE YOUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS, YOUR WATER TREATMENT PLANTS, LIFT STATIONS.

THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD LAUNDRY LIST OF THOSE TYPES OF ASSETS.

AND THERE'S THE TRANSPORTATION, OBVIOUSLY, THE TRANSPORTATION

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COMMUNITY CENTERS. IT IS EVERYTHING THAT IS IN ONE

OF THOSE. >> BUT THE PIPED DRAINAGE WILL

BE THAT, CORRECT? >> YES.

>> TRANSPORTATION IS BASICALLY THE -- IS GENERALLY THE BIGGEST YOU HAVE AND THOSE ALL GET BROKEN DOWN INTO SEGMENTS.

SO THEN AS REQUIRED BY THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT, YOU HAVE TO DEVELOP FOCUS AREAS AND THOSE ARE TYPICALLY BASED ON WHERE YOU HAVE THE HIGHEST CONCENTRATION OF ASSETS AT RISK.

SO THESE ARE KIND OF THE FOUR AREAS THAT BROKE OUT OF THAT.

AND THAT WAS A PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH WITH YOU.

SO THE ST. JOHN'S RIVER AREA, BLACK CREEK AREA AND MORE.

SO AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, WE TEND TO FOCUS IN THOSE AREAS.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERY ONE HAS TO BE IN A FOCUS AREA BUT THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHERE MORE OF THE ATTENTION WILL BE.

THIS IS JUST A SNAPSHOT OF YOUR MOST VULNERABLE ASSESSMENTS, GENERALLY THE DARKER THE COLOR, THE MORE AT RISK IT IS.

SO YOU CAN TAKE THE RESULTS FROM HERE, WHICH IS THE SENSITIVITY ANALYSIS AND CAN KIND OF SEE WHY WE CAME UP WITH THE FOCUS AREAS THAT WE DID. JUST IN GENERAL TERMS, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT STOOD OUT IN TERMS OF THE RESULTS AND THINGS THAT WERE AT RISK, PARTICULARLY IN SOME OF THE FUTURE YEARS, SOME OF YOUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS POINT TO A NEED FOR SOME ADDITIONAL MONITORING PROGRAMS. A NUMBER OF FLOOD CONTROL STRUCTURES AND CONVERTS AND SOME OTHER STATIONS WILL ALSO BE AT RISK.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT AS WE GO INTO THE NEXT PART OF THE PROJECT.

BUT AGAIN, IF THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU FEEL SHOULD BE A PRIORITY, NOW IS THE TIME TO DO IT, NOW IS THE TIME TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO US EARLY IN THE PROJECT SO THAT WE HAVE TIME TO DEVELOP PROJECTS AND ADDRESS THOSE.

IN TERMS OF OVERALL ADAPTATION STRATEGIES, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT INCREASING FLOOD CAPACITY, DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, STATION HARDENING AND MONITORING. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE KNOW FROM THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT.

BUT WE WILL TAKE INPUT IN TERMS OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE MIGHT BE

LOOKING AT. >> WHEN YOU SPOKE OF THE LIFT STATION, IS THE VULNERABILITY THE FACT THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE

THE BACKUP GENERATOR? >> IT CAN BE ONE OF TWO THINGS.

SOMETIMES THEY ARE IN THE AREA WHERE THEY WILL BE INUNDATED AND THEN YOU GET WATER THAT YOU DON'T WANT IN THE SEWER SYSTEM OR IT CAN BE A LOSS OF POWER. OR A LACK OF A BACKUP GENERATOR.

AND SOME OF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE MORE CRITICAL THAN OTHERS.

SO OUR NEXT STEPS THEN ARE THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, WE KIND OF LOOK BACK TO THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT RESULTS TO GUIDE US. ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE WILL WORK WITH YOU ON IS WHAT ARE YOUR PRIORITIES.

YOU CAN APPRECIATE THAT LIST OF HOW MANY HIGH PRIORITIES THERE ARE AND WE CAN'T ADDRESS ALL OF THAT, SO WHAT ARE THE ONES THAT YOU ARE REALLY WANTING TO TACKLE PRETTY EARLY ON? WE WILL HAVE MORE PUBLIC MEETINGS ON THIS, MORE PRESENTATIONS OVER THE COURSE OF THE FINAL REPORT.

SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD?

>> DO YOU KNOW WHEN THEY OPEN UP A BRANCH FOR REMEDIATION OF

THIS? >> I BELIEVE THE WINDOW IS USUALLY JULY, IS THAT CORRECT? IT HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT OVER THE YEARS, BUT THEY HAVE CONSOLIDATED BOTH THE PLANNING GRANTS AND IMPLEMENTATION GRANTS.

THE WINDOW STARTS IN JULY FIRST. >> HAS IT BEEN ONGOING PREVIOUS TO THIS JULY? SP WHEN THE PROGRAM STARTED IN 21 AND THE FUNDING HAS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS.

AND IN SOME OF THE EARLY YEARS THERE WERE FEDERAL DOLLARS WHICH WERE ABLE TO BE FUNNELED INTO. SO THE STATE WAS ACTUALLY ABLE TO FUND THE HIGHER LEVEL THAN THEY HAD ANTICIPATED SO THAT WAS GOOD. THIS COMING YEAR IT WILL BE A LITTLE LESS THAN IT HAS BEEN IN PRIOR YEARS.

SO IT WILL VARY FROM YEAR TO YEAR.

SO THE PLANNING GRANTS ARE 100% AND THE IMPLEMENTATION GRANTS

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ARE A 50% MATCH. >> IS THE FINAL REPORT GOING TO INCLUDE DEALING WITH ALL OF THESE RISKS? SP WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DEALING WITH THE COST OF THE RISK? ABSOLUTELY. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WOULD WANT YOU TO GET FROM THIS IS FOR THESE PLANS TO BE GRANT READY.

SO EVERYTHING YOU NEED FOR THAT GRANT SUBMITTAL, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT IN THE ADAPTATION PLANS. IT WILL BE VERY EASY TO GO FROM

PLAN TO GRANT. >> WHEN IS THE FINAL REPORT DUE?

>> DO YOU RECALL? FEBRUARY 27TH.

-- FEBRUARY 2027. >> I CONCLUDED AN ESTIMATE OF THE PROJECT COST STAGGERING. THAT IS ALL I CAN SAY, IT WAS

STAGGERING. >> PARTICULARLY FOR THESE, AS YOU LOOK, THE PROJECTIONS WERE EVEN MUCH HIGHER.

FOR THINGS THAT AREN'T A PROBLEM NOW.

BUT COULD BE IN THE FUTURE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[APPLAUSE] I AM GLAD WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS NOW. THERE IS NO CLAPPING ALLOWED HERE. THEY WILL HAVE THE RULES ON THE SCREEN, WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN ORDER, PLEASE DON'T CLAP.

NOTHING THAT YOU MAY BE EXCITED ABOUT.

>> MAYBE THAT WILL BE THE FIRST ORDER, YOU CANNOT CLAP.

[CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS]

>> GOOD JOB! >> WE WILL MOVE ON TO CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS AND WE HAVE THE SHERIFF HERE.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

AND I THINK THAT'S ALL, WE WILL MOVE ON TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT MINUTES TO APPROVE.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE WORKSHOP WHICH WAS JUNE NINTH, 2026.

>> I SECOND. >> FIRST AND SECOND, THOSE WHO APPROVE? ANY OPPOSED?

>> THE SECOND MOTION I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM OUR COMMISSION MEETING ON JUNE NINTH, 2026.

>> FIRST AND SECOND, THOSE IN FAVOR?

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

THOSE OPPOSED? WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA IS DESIGNED TO ALLOW CITIZENS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING MATTERS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOARD. AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL NOT ENGAGE IN DEBATE OR ANSWER QUESTIONS.

YOU MAY EMAIL US AND STAFF WILL ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS OR YOU MAY EMAIL YOUR DISTRICT COMMISSIONER.

PUBLIC COMMENT IS IMMEDIATELY PLACED AT THE ENTRANCE AND SHOULD BE SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK ON THE FAR LEFT OF THE DAIS.

YOU ARE TO LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO 3 MINUTES.

BEFORE ADDRESSING THE BOARD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT. TODAY AT THE MEETING.

THE RULES ARE BACK ON THE SCREEN THERE FOR EVERYONE.

WE HAVE OUR FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS...

AND YOU WILL BE OUR FIRST ONE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS HELENA AND MY ADDRESS IS ON FILE.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH.

FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, EVERYTHING WITH ROLLING HILLS AND SERVING ON THE C DD IN THERE AND EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL AND THE STAFF AND EVERYBODY HAD TO HELP US WORK TOGETHER, WE DID FIND OUT AT OUR JUNE MEETING THAT WE DID HAVE ALL OF THE LAND CONVEYED AND BY THE GRACE OF GOD, THAT WAS JUST A MIRACLE.

AND A LOT OF HARD WORK. I DO COVET YOUR PRAYERS AS MY SEAT WAS UNCONTESTED, I WILL GET TO SERVE ANOTHER FOUR YEARS IN ROLLING HILLS. WE HAVE TWO OPEN SEATS THAT DID NOT GET FILLED AND QUALIFIED -- FILED AND QUALIFIED.

SO JUST PRAY FOR US THAT WE WILL HAVE TWO RESIDENTS THAT WILL JOIN US IN TRYING TO CONTINUE MOVING OUR COMMUNITY FORWARD.

WE ARE AT THAT SPOT NOW WHERE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DEVELOP ALL OF OUR POCKET PARKS AND JUST MOVE FORWARD.

SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

>> AND I HAVE RICH, ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO SPEAK AT PUBLIC

COMMENT? >> RICH, 1985 TRAIL.

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NORMALLY I WOULD WAIT FOR THE AI DATA THING TO COME UP AND PARTICIPATE -- BUT I THINK MOST PEOPLE HERE ARE AGAINST IT.

BUT I JUST GOT OUT OF THE HOSPITAL AGAIN AND I'M TIRED AND I JUST WANTED TO BE HERE WITH EVERYONE ELSE AND SAY THAT I AM AGAINST THIS DATA CENTER. PRIMARILY BECAUSE THEY ARE UNTESTED, PEOPLE ARE REPORTING PROBLEMS IN THEIR TOWNS AND COUNTIES AND FLORIDA BEING UP AND DOWN WITH THE DROUGHT CYCLES THAT CANNOT BE PREDICTED, I UNDERSTAND THAT THESE THINGS USE WAY MORE WATER THAN I CAN AFFORD.

WE ARE ALREADY DEALING WITH THE TERRIBLE PAST COMMISSION'S DECISION TO GIVE OUR WATERWAY TO SOME BOTTLING COMPANY WHICH TO ME, WAS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS AND I SPOKE OUT AGAINST THAT TO.

BUT THIS IS WHERE WE ARE. AND HAVING A DATA CENTER REQUIRING SO MUCH MORE OF OUR NATIONAL RESOURCES WOULD BE A VERY BAD THING. AND AS I SAID AT THE FIRST MEETING, WHY STOP AT A ONE YEAR MORATORIUM? LET'S NOT KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.

LET'S JUST PUT A STOP TO IT AND SAY NO, WE DON'T WANT IT, PLEASE GO AWAY. YOU CAN USE AS MUCH KINDNESS AS YOU WANT OR WE CAN DO IT MY WAY. I MEAN, I'M ON TAP.

I WILL SPEAK IN MUCH PLAINER LANGUAGE.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I WANTED TO COVER.

THERE WAS ONE MORE THING. ALL OF THIS ZONING CHANGES CAN WE HAVE A MORATORIUM ON THAT? BECAUSE NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN, WHEN THEY CHANGE ZONING, IT IS FOR SOME RIDICULOUS THING LIKE ANOTHER WAWA OR ANOTHER CAR WASH.

AND WE REALLY DON'T NEED IT. ESPECIALLY WITH WATER SHORTAGES.

AND CERTAINLY WITH A NOD TOWARDS BETTER HEALTH.

WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER WAWA. SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME. HAVE A GREAT REST OF THE MEETING, I WILL TUNE IN AT HOME. THANK YOU.

>> NOW THAT THAT CAME UP, WE WILL ADDRESS YOU ALL, WE ARE NOT VOTING ON THAT TONIGHT. REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER HAS BEEN ON FACEBOOK, I HAVE SEEN IT ALL. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE AS A COMMISSION HAD A CONSENSUS TO PUT A MORATORIUM ON THE AGENDA AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR TODAY.

WE ARE NOT APPROVING A DATA CENTER, WE ARE NOT VOTING DOWN A DATA CENTER, WE ARE CREATING A MORATORIUM.

SO IN CASE -- I. HAVE SEEN A LOT OF THESE COMMENT CARDS WHERE YOU WERE SAYING YOU ARE AGAINST IT. THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO BE, I'M PRETTY SURE, IF YOU ARE NOT WANTING DATA CENTERS.

YOU WOULD BE WANTING TO VOTE FOR THE MORATORIUM TONIGHT.

SO WHEN YOU COME UP LATER, I WILL BE ASKING YOU IF THAT IS CORRECT ON YOUR CARD OR NOT. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE NOT VOTING TO APPROVE A DATA CENTER TONIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. SORRY, THERE WAS NO OTHER PUBLIC

[CONSENT AGENDA]

COMMENT BUT I DIDN'T HAVE ANY, DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE A COMMENT? WE WILL MOVE ON TO CONSENT AGENDA.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? >> I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE

CONSENT AGENDA. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES 5-0.

[10. Discussion of amendment to the Clay County Home Rule Charter, Section 2.3: Executive Branch, to eliminate or modify Subsection D. Commission Auditor]

AND NEXT WE WILL MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION OF AMENDMENT TO THE CHARTER SECTION 2.3 EXECUTIVE BRANCH TO ELIMINATE OR MODIFY SUBSECTION D, COMMISSION AUD AUDITOR.

SO DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS?

>> THE ITEM WAS ADDED AT THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD FOR THE LAST BOARD MEETING. ATTACHED AS BACKUP IS THE LANGUAGE THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE JARGON.

AND IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE ANY AMENDMENTS MADE TO THAT, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE AND THEN FORWARDED TO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION TO BE ON THE BALLOT FOR THE NOVEMBER

ELECTION. >> I THINK THAT WAS MY RECOMMENDATION TO TALK ABOUT THAT WITH THE RECENT CHANGE OR RESERVATION. AND IN MY OPINION, I AM NOT -- MY CRYSTAL BALL IS NOT ALL THAT CLEAR FOR THE FUTURE.

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AND THERE ARE SOME DUTIES THAT I'M NOT SURE WE NEED A COMMISSION ON. BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER DUTIES THAT OUR RESPONSIBILITIES AND DUTIES -- I. THINK WE CAN LOOK AT THE FUTURE. SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO NOT DO ANYTHING WITH THE CHARTER INITIATIVE TO CHANGE THE CHARTER POSITION. I WILL TREAT THAT AS A MOTION TO

LEAVE IT AS IT STANDS. >> I WILL SECOND THE MOTION.

>> I AM IN AGREEMENT. I THINK THERE COULD BE A LOT OF USE -- AND I UNDERSTAND THE CLERK OF THE COMPTROLLER COULD NOT BE HERE, SHE IS AT THE CLERK CONFERENCE AND I AM SURE SHE TALKED TO THE REST OF YOU, SHE TALKED TO ME.

I UNDERSTAND HER CONCERNS ABOUT THE PUBLIC'S UNDERSTANDING OF THE ROLE OF THE COMMISSION AUDITOR IS DIFFERENT THAN THE ROLE THAT THE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT AMENDMENT TEN FOR I THINK IT WAS 2018, WENT INTO EFFECT IN 2020, WHICH THE FINANCIAL OVERSIGHT OF THE COUNTY BELONGS WITH THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE. AND THE INSPECTOR GENERAL THAT REPORTS TO THE CLERK. AND WE COMPLETELY RESPECT THAT.

BUT I THINK THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT THE ROLE COULD DO FOR US. I HAD A CONVERSATION, THE COUNTY MANAGER WAS TELLING ME THAT RICHARD, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, HAD HAD A BUCKET TRUCK IN THEIR BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR AND THE COUNTY MANAGER CHALLENGED HIM ON IT YOU ALREADY HAVE A BUCKET TRUCK, WHY DO YOU NEED THIS ONE? WELL THIS ONE IS TALLER AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CANNOT REACH. AND THE COUNTY MANAGER SAID I'M NOT GOING TO APPROVE IT. YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A BETTER WAY. SO RICHARD FOUND THAT WHEN THEY NEED IT, THEY CAN LEASE IT FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.

AND SO IT SAVES A WHOLE BUNCH OF MONEY.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WAS TALKING WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER, I THINK THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY A LOT OF THOSE KINDS OF INSTANCES THAT OUR STAFF IS LEAN, HARD WORKING, NOBODY IS DOING ANYTHING WRONG BUT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES, I THINK.

THAT THE ROLE COULD GO AND FIND THAT MORE IN THE WEEDS.

AND NOT TO BE SO BROAD THAT THE CLERK'S OFFICE WOULD INVESTIGATE JUST OPPORTUNITIES TO BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TIME TO EXPLORE THAT, TO REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO SAY, TO EDUCATE THE VOTERS IF WE WERE TO CHANGE THE TITLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT. WHAT MY CONCERN ALSO IS IS IF WE PUT IT ON THE BALLOT TO CHANGE THE TITLE AND THE VOTERS SAY NO TO THAT, THEN WHAT HAPPENS? I AM NOT REALLY SURE.

SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT IS THE TIME TO FILL IT, SINCE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE -- WHAT THE BUDGET SITUATION IS GOING TO BE AND THAT KIND OF THING. BUT I AM IN AGREEMENT,

COMMISSIONER. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE OTHER COMMENT. IF YOU HAVE BEEN IN CLAY COUNTY FOR A. OF TIME, BY THE WAY, I THINK THE ONE THING THAT WAS JUST CHANGED IN 2019, I THINK IT WAS TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE. FROM THE COUNTY.

THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES -- IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY BOOKS, THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES AT THE CLERK'S OFFICE, THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES ON THE COMMISSION. SO I THINK IT IS PRUDENT JUST TO KEEP THE POWDER DRY, SO TO SPEAK.

AND LOOK TO SEE WHAT THE FUTURE PERTAINS.

AND THERE ARE OPTIONS FOR US AND IN MY COMMENTS, TALK ABOUT THE OPTIONS TO THE POSITION SIMILAR TO THE AUDITOR THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE IN THE FUTURE. WE MAY BE ABLE TO USE WITH THAT

POSITION IN THE FUTURE. >> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

MY QUESTION IS FOR COURTNEY. SO LET'S SAY WE PUT A PAUSE ON THIS RIGHT NOW AND DON'T NECESSARILY HIRE AN AUDITOR.

BUT AFTER WE FIGURE OUT THE FINANCIAL FUTURE, AFTER CHRISTMAS, WE WILL HAVE A BETTER VIEW OF WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

IF WE WERE TO FILL THE POSITION AND THEN ADJUST THE JOB DESCRIPTION, WOULD THAT HAVE TO GO IN THE 28 BALLOT OR YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ONCE YOU HIRE THAT EMPLOYEE?

>> LET ME SAY I HAVE ALREADY LOOKED AT THE JOB DESCRIPTION.

I THINK IT WOULD ACCOMMODATE JUST ABOUT ANYTHING I CAN PERCEIVE. BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT FURTHER. THE JOB DESCRIPTION AS IT EXISTS TODAY. THERE WOULD BE NO CHANGE TO

REPORT. >> SO THE JOB DESCRIPTION IN THE CHARTER VERBIAGE IS NOT THE SAME AS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

BUT THERE IS A JOB DESCRIPTION THAT IS NOT -- THE CHARTER PIECE IS THE FUNCTION OF THE POSITION, BUT NOT THE JOB DESCRIPTION.

AND WE HAVE LATITUDE TO WORK WITHIN THE JOB DESCRIPTION IS

WHAT YOU ARE SAYING? >> SO WHAT HAPPENED WHEN AFTER

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AMENDMENT TEN IS THAT THE JOB DESCRIPTION WAS MODIFIED IN ORDER TO MEET THE REDUCTION IN THE DESCRIPTION OF THAT JOB.

SO THE BOARD ELIMINATED MANY OF THE COMMISSION AUDITOR DUTIES THAT WERE ACTUALLY NOW THE CLERK'S FUNCTION.

SO THE JOB DESCRIPTION THAT THE AUDITOR WAS WORKING ON WAS ALREADY REFINED. THE CHARTER HAS AN EDITOR'S NOTE IN IT THAT INDICATES THAT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE EFFECT OF AMENDMENT TEN IN LOOKING AT THAT.

SO THE COUNTY AT THE TIME WENT AND TOOK THE STEPS TO MAKE SURE THAT IN DEVELOPING THE JOB DESCRIPTION, THAT IT DID NOT INFRINGE ON THE AMENDMENT TEN REQUIREMENTS.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER.

I THINK THAT THE POSITION HAS TREMENDOUS VALUE TO THE TAXPAYER IN TERMS OF NOT DOLLARS AND CENTS, BUT IN TERMS OF OPERATIONAL SAVINGS. ENTERING THE LAST BUDGET WORKSHOP, WE ALL CAME UP WITH SOME PRETTY CREATIVE IDEAS WITH IT AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. THIS PERSON WOULD BE ABLE TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD, HEY, IF YOU DO X, THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE BUDGETARILY FOR Y. WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THE CLERK'S OFFICE DOES GIVE US SUPPORT, BUT NOT TO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL. SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS AS WELL.

>> DO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND?

>> WHAT WAS YOUR MOTION? >> TO NOT CHANGE -- NOT FORWARD THE CHARTER AMENDMENT FOR THE POSITION.

>> GOT YOU. >> MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

[11. Appointment of Canvassing Board Members for 2026 Primary Election (C. Grimm)]

PASSES 5-0. WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE BUSINESS APPOINTMENT OF CANVASING BOARD MEMBERS FOR 2026 PRIMARY

ELECTION. >> I HAVE BEEN WORKING ALONG WITH THE SUPERVISOR OF THE ELECTION TO WORK THROUGH THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS, DUE TO THE FACT THAT CURRENTLY, NONE OF OUR BOARD CAN SERVE ON THE CANVASING BOARD.

SO IN CONNECTION WITH THE STATUTE, WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS IS THAT IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT NEITHER THE CHAIR NOR THE OTHER FOUR OF YOU CAN SERVE, WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN IS AN APPOINTMENT OF A SUBSTITUTE MEMBER IS REQUIRED.

UNDER THE STATUTE, THAT OCCURS BY THE CHIEF JUDGE.

SO I HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH HIS STAFF AND THEY WILL BE WORKING ON AN ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER IN ORDER TO EFFECTUATE THAT. THE PERSON THAT HAS AGREED TO SERVE AS SUBSTITUTE MEMBER, WHICH IS REALLY SERVING IN THE CHAIR'S PLACE, IS JUDGE TIMOTHY COLLINS.

UNDER THE STATUTE, ALSO THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ALTERNATE MEMBER BECAUSE NONE OF THE BOARD CAN ALSO SERVE AS THE ALTERNATE MEMBER. THAT WITHIN THE STATUTE DEFAULT AND THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD APPOINTS THAT ALTERNATE MEMBER.

AND WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH A MEMBER WHO HAS SERVED ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AND HE IS AVAILABLE TO SERVE ON THOSE DATES. AND THAT WOULD BE WHO I BELIEVE STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND YOU APPOINT AS YOUR ALTERNATE MEMBER. SO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE STATUTE, WOULD BE THE REQUEST TO AGREE TO HAVE JUDGE COLLINS APPOINTED BY THE CHIEF JUDGE AS SUBSTITUTE MEMBER TO SERVICE ON THE CANVASING BOARD WITH KURT AS THE ALTERNATE MEMBER.

AND THIS WOULD ONLY BE FOR THE 2026 PRIMARY ELECTION AND WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU FOR THE ACTUAL OTHER ELECTION.

>> I MOVE APPROVAL JUDGE COLLINS WITH THE ALTERNATE.

>> I SECOND. >> MOVING AND SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? PASSES 5-0. WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR --

STANDBY. >> I HAVE A NEW JOKE IF YOU WANT

ME TO TELL YOU. >> PLEASE!

>> WHY IS MILK THE FASTEST LIQUID ON THE PLANET?

>> WHY? >> BECAUSE IT'S PASTEURIZED

BEFORE YOU KNOW IT. >> THAT WAS A GOOD ONE.

>> YOU WANT TO FILL WITH ONE MORE? WHAT DID ONE TRAFFIC LIGHT SAY TO THE OTHER TRAFFIC LIGHT? DON'T LOOK NOW, I'M CHANGING. [LAUGHS]

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THAT IS FROM MY 10-YEAR OLD GRANDDAUGHTER.

>> WE HAVE A NEW TRAFFIC LIGHT FOR OUR COUNTY!

[14. Public Hearing to consider PUD 25-0009. (District 5, Burke) (B. Carson) This application is a Rezoning to change 2.46 acres from Commercial Recreation District (BB-5) to Planned Commercial Development District (PCD). ]

>> WE ARE MOVING ON TO 5:00. NUMBER 14.

A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER 25-009.

LOOKING TO CHANGE FROM COMMERCIAL RECREATION DISTRICT TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND THIS ITEM WAS CONTINUED BETWEEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

>> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. THE APPLICANT IS STILL WORKING TO REFINE THE DOCUMENTS AND IT WAS CONTINUED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION NEXT MONTH, JULY SEVENTH AND THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT IT BE CONTINUED TO THE JULY 28TH

MEETING TO COME FORWARD FOR YOU. >> CAN I HAVE A MOTION?

>> I MOVE THE APPROVAL -- SORRY. >> I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK?

I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

28TH. >> I SECOND.

CONTINUE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? NONE.

SO IF YOU ARE SPEAKING ON NUMBED TO BE SWORN IN.

SO IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK FOR 15 OR 16, PLEASE COME TO THE CENTER OF THE ROOM. NOBODY HAS -- OKAY.

[15. Final Public Hearing to consider COMP 26-0007, PUD 26-0003 and ZON 26-0010. (District 1, Comm. Sgromolo) (B. Carson)]

NUMBER 15, FINAL PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER.

INCLUDING ZONING 26-00010. >> THANK YOU AGAIN, MADAM CHAIR.

THIS ITEM WAS HEARD BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THEIR MEETING EARLIER IN THE MONTH. THE APPLICANT FOR THIS -- THESE THREE APPLICATIONS IS DAVID. IT IS LOCATED AT COLLEGE DRIVE, LOCATED WITHIN THE PLANNING DISTRICT.

IT IS IN COMMISSION DISTRICT ONE.

AND SEVERAL DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS ARE INVOLVED HERE.

THE AMENDMENT WILL CHANGE HALF AN ACRE FROM COMMERCIAL TO UC TEN. THE 26-3 APPLICATION WILL AMEND THE PCD TO REMOVE THAT HALF AN ACRE.

ZONE 26-10 WILL CHANGE THAT HALF ACRE TO AR.

THE MAP ON THE LEFT IS A LOCATION, YOU CAN SEE IT IS THE EAST SIDE OF COLLEGE DRIVE, NORTH OF 220.

IT IS RIGHT THERE. BECAUSE THIS HAS MOVING PARTS, IT WILL GET AN EXTRA LITTLE GRAPHIC FOR YOU.

THE CURRENT PCD IS THE RED BOX. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE RED BOX AND CREATE TWO SEPARATE PARCELS, THE LEFT PARCEL WITH THE BLUE WOULD BE THE FUTURE PCD MOVING FORWARD, THE RIGHT PORTION, WHICH IS THE GREEN PORTION, WOULD BE A RESIDENTIAL LOT. THIS IS THE LIST OF PEOPLE THAT WERE NOTIFIED REGARDING THESE THREE APPLICATIONS AND THE SIGNAGE. AND WE WILL START WITH THE APPLICATION TO AMEND. SO THE LOCATION OF ALL PARCELS, YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE LEFT. IT HAS GOT PS1 TO THE NORTH OF IT AND THE CURRENT DESIGNATION IS THE PCD IN THE YELLOW WITH THE HATCH. THE MAP ON THE RIGHT, YOU SEE IT WOULD BE CHANGED TO A MUCH SMALLER PCD, PRODUCING THAT BY THE RESIDENTIAL PARCEL THAT HE WANTS TO TAKE OUT.

IT REQUIRES THAT THERE BE A SITE PLAN AS WELL AS A WRITTEN NARRATIVE TO DESCRIBE THE CONDITIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

IT WOULD BE REDUCED BY 1.44 ACRES -- THE TOTAL CURRENTLY IS 1.44 ACRES, IT WOULD BE REDUCED TO 0.9 ACRES.

AND THE AMENDMENT WOULD REMOVE 7000 SQUARE FEET OF GENERAL RETAIL AND POTENTIAL MUSEUM USE FROM THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO 1500 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING TO HOUSE A

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CONTRACT OR PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS OFFICE WITH THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF 35 FEET. AS FAR AS THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, THAT PARCEL THAT IS BEING CUT OUT IS CURRENTLY COMMERCIAL. SO IT WOULD NEED TO BE CHANGED TO A RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION. ON THE RIGHT IS THE URBAN CORE TEN DESIGNATION THAT WOULD GO. AND YOU CAN SEE IT IS FURTHER EAST AND SURROUNDING SOMEWHAT IS ALSO RESIDENTIAL.

AND THIS IS THE FINAL COMPONENT, WHICH IS REZONING THAT HALF ACRE PARCEL, IT WOULD BE REZONING IT TO AR SO IT CAN BE DEVELOPED AS ONE SINGLE RESIDENCE. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE CRITERIA FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND BOTH REZONINGS AND FOUND THAT THE APPLICATIONS HAVE MET THE REQUIREMENTS AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ALL THREE APPLICATIONS.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED 6-0 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ALL THREE APPLICATIONS AT THE JUNE SECOND MEETING.

THE OAKLEY, DID NOT HAVE A FORUM WHEN THEY HAD THESE ITEMS COME BEFORE THEM IN MAY, THERE WAS NO ACTUALS YET.

AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE. THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT NEED ANSWERS.

>> HELLO. >> I'M DAVID WINTER.

THE REASON FOR THE CHANGE OF PLANS WAS BECAUSE OF THE COST OF THE UNDERGROUND SITE WORK. IT USED TO BE PRICED AT ABOUT 250 UP TO 300,000 AN ACRE. BUT WHEN I GOT THE PROPOSALS BACK IT WAS 800,000 TO A MILLION.

SO I COULD NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH WHERE IT WAS.

THAT'S WHY I DECIDED TO SPLIT IT UP AND DO A RESIDENTIAL HOME IN THE BACK AND THAT WILL BE LESS COST DUE TO THE SITE WORK.

THAT IS THE REASON WHY I AM TRYING TO DO THIS.

>> THE PLANNED OFFICE BUILDING, WHAT IS THE TENANT? IS IT YOUR PERSONAL BUSINESS? WHAT IS YOUR PERSONAL BUSINESS?

>> CONSTRUCTION. >> SO YOU'RE BUILDING YOUR OWN

OFFICE SPACE? >> YES, SIR.

>> THAT IS ALL. >> AND THE RESIDENTIAL LOT IS

FOR YOUR PERSONAL HOME? >> NO, SIR.

THERE ARE SEVERAL HOUSES TO THE RIGHT AND THAT IS WHY I SAID I

THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD FIT. >> ON BRICKYARD ROAD?

>> YES, SIR. IT IS ACTUALLY BRICKYARD ROAD,

NOT COLLEGE. >> THANK YOU.

>> NO PROBLEM. >> DO WE HAVE TO BRING ALL

THREE? >> YOU NEED TO DO SEPARATE VO

VOTES. >> I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? WAS THERE ANY DISCLOSURES?

>> I SPOKE TO RESIDENTS. >> PUBLIC HEARING.

CLOSING PUBLIC HEARING. >> BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD.

>> I MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEM 15 A, THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT.

>> SECOND MOTION. >> MOTION IS SECONDED FOR A.

ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED?

>> I WILL MOVE APPROVAL FROM ITEM 15B, 26-0003.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY. ANY OPPOSED?

>> I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES 5-0, THANK YOU, SIR.

[16. Final Public Hearing to consider adoption of COMP 26-0005 and ZON 26-0007.(District 1, Sgromolo)(D. Selig)]

AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO 16, FINAL PUBLIC HEARING TO ADOPT.

GOOD EVENING. THIS ITEM IS A SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT. IT IS APPLICABLE TO ONE PARCEL THAT IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF COLLEGE DRIVE.

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THE APPLICANT IS COURTNEY WITH ROGERS TOWERS.

THIS IS IN THE OAK LEAF BRANDON RIDGE PLANNING DISTRICT, WHICH IS DISTRICT ONE. THE APPLICANT HAS TWO APPLICATIONS BEFORE US. ONE WOULD CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM URBAN CORE TEN TO COMMERCIAL.

AND ZONE 26-7 WHICH WOULD CHANGE THE ZONING THROUGH AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL TO HEAVY BUSINESS DISTRICT FOR.

SIGNS WERE POSTED AND MAIL INS WENT OUT TO ALL OF THE PARCELS WITHIN 250 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PARCEL.

AND I HAVE ADDED THIS LITTLE SLIDE TO HOPEFULLY GIVE YOU A LITTLE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS ALWAYS CENTERED IN OUR MAPS. AND IT CUTS OFF THE FACT THAT THE SUBJECT PARCEL, WHICH IS THE RED HATCH ON THIS MAP, IS OWNED BY AN INDIVIDUAL WHO OWNS THE TWO PARCELS IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH. SO THEY ARE ALSO OUTLINED IN RED ON THIS MAP AND OUR SUBSEQUENT MAPS CUT OFF SOME OF THAT NORTHERN PART OF THE PROPERTY. THE BUSINESS THAT HE OWNS IS ON THE NORTHERNMOST TRIANGULAR SHAPED PARCEL.

SO WHEN WE BRING IT UP IN JUST A MOMENT, I CAN SHOW THAT TO YOU.

IT DOES CUT OFF PART OF IT BUT I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE OVERALL AREA. SO YOU CAN SEE THE AREA ON THE LEFT, THE SUBJECT SITE THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING THIS EVENING AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL APPLICATION APPLIES TO JUST THE YELLOW THATCHED AREA. BUT THE PARCEL TO THE NORTH, ALMOST THE VERY TOP OF THE SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE THE PARKING LOT. AND THEN AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN YOU CAN SEE A BUILDING WHICH IS THE ACTUAL BUSINESS LOCATION. ON THE LEFT IS THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE, IT IS THE BROWN COLOR, IT IS THE URBAN CORE TEN.

RED IS COMMERCIAL. ON THE RIGHT IS THE PROPOSED CHANGE FOR THIS PARCEL TO COMMERCIAL, WHICH WOULD MATCH THE OTHER PARCELS THAT HE OWNS AS WELL AS ONES ACROSS THE STREET. AND THESE ARE THE ZONING MAPS.

TO THE LEFT WE HAVE THE CURRENT AGAIN, IT IS THAT GREEN COLOR WHICH IS THE RESIDENTIAL. AND ON THE RIGHT IS THE PROPOSED, WHICH IS THE CHANGE TO BB FOR WHICH, AGAIN, MATCHES THE TWO PARCELS THAT HE ALREADY OWNS TO THE NORTH AND ALSO TWO PARCELS ACROSS THE STREET BE BEFORE.

THE ITEM WAS SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD IN MAY, HOWEVER THERE WAS NO QUORUM, THEREFORE THE MEETING DID NOT TAKE PLACE.

ON JUNE SECOND, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD THIS ITEM.

THEY VOTED 6-0 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

STAFF HAS LOOKED AT THE CRITERIA FOR BOTH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE REZONING. AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF BOTH ITEMS. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND HAS A PRESENTATION FOR YOU, IF YOU WOULD.

OR I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> GOOD EVENING. COURTNEY FROM ROGERS TOWERS.

I WILL KEEP IT QUICK BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE A PACKED AGENDA.

I JUST WANT TO PUT SOME NAMES AND FACES FOR THIS APPLICATION.

SO I REPRESENT LYNN WAR ONE WHICH IS AN ENTITY THAT IS OWNED BY ERIC AND THERESA, THEY ARE UP IN THE CORNER.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE PLEASURE OF KNOWING THEM, THEY HAVE OPERATED THIS FOR MANY YEARS IN THE COUNTY AND HAVE BEEN AT THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION SINCE JANUARY OF 2006.

ESSENTIALLY, JUST TO REITERATE, THERE'S A LITTLE OVER 14 ACRES THAT ARE CURRENTLY OWNED. IF YOU LOOK AT THE GOOGLE STREET VIEW, THAT NORTHERN PARCEL IS WHERE THE CURRENT BUILDING IS AND THEN THE MIDDLE PARCEL, SOME OF IT HAS DEVELOPED WITH SOME STORAGE AND PARKING. AND SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR IS TO GET THE CURRENT LAND USE AND ZONING DESIGNATION FOR FUTURE EXPANSION. THEY ARE A PRETTY LARGE COMPANY, THEY EMPLOY OVER 150 PEOPLE HERE.

SO THIS IS TO ALLOW THEM TO GOD WILLING, EXPAND IN THE FUTURE.

WE ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND I APPRECIATE IT,

THANK YOU. >> ANYONE?

>> WHAT ARE THE OTHER USES? >> ONE MOMENT...

SO IT INCLUDES AUTO BODY SHOPS, TIRE SALES AND SERVICE, ROADS,

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WHOLESALE SALES, ROOMS, COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT, BOAT AND MOTOR -- SALES AND SERVICE, FEED, PROCESSING, FERTILIZER STORAGE, FLEA MARKETS, WHOLESALE BAKERIES, LUMBERYARDS, BUILDING MATERIAL SALES. PERFORMING CUSTOM WORK AND ELECTRICAL PLUMBING, SHEET METAL, HEATING, VENTILATION, AIR CONDITIONING, PEST CONTROL, FABRICATION OF GOODS, USING COMPONENTS MANUFACTURED ELSEWHERE AND BROUGHT TO THE SITE, LANDSCAPING AND SERVICE, WHOLESALE, PLANT NURSERY.

>> THANK YOU. >> YOU ARE WELCOME.

>> I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BRING IT BACK. AND I WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE

BOARD FOR THE MOTION. >> MADAM CHAIR, MOVING APPROVAL

IN ALL MATTERS. >> I HAVE A MOTION.

>> SECOND. >> I JUST WANT -- T. AND M ELECTRIC, YOU GUYS DO A REALLY GOOD JOB OF MAKING SURE THAT YOUR BUILDING IS PRESENTABLE. I DRIVE BY THIS PARCEL EVERY SINGLE DAY AND I COMMEND YOU FOR BEING GREAT STEWARDS IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND I AM HAPPY TO HELP WITH THE EXPANSION. BECAUSE YOU DO THINGS THE RIGHT WAY, YOU EMPLOY PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTY AND THIS IS A REALLY GOOD THING FOR YOU AND FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. MY MOTION FOR APPROVAL IS ITEM

16 A, THAT WAS THE MOTION. >> AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY HOW WONDERFUL THESE TWO ARE. I HAVE KNOWN THEM FOR YEARS, YEARS AND YEARS. A LONG TIME.

ERIC ACTUALLY TAUGHT MY KIDS IN SUNDAY SCHOOL AND THERESA RIGHT BY HIS SIDE. THEY ALSO HAVE BROUGHT SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE TO WORK FOR THEM, TO TEACH THEM THE SKILL.

I JUST LOVE THEM AND WE ARE SO BLESSED TO HAVE THEM IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. THAT PASSES.

ANY OPPOSED? >> AND I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEM 16B, THE ZONING 26-0007 FOR APPROVAL.

>> SECONDED. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, THOSE IN FAVOR? NO OPPOSED.

PASSES 5-0, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

[17. Final Public Hearing to consider adoption of COMP 26-0006. (District 4, Comm. Condon)(D. Selig)]

SO WE WILL MOVE ON. TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF 26-0006.

>> THE APPLICANT FOR THIS ITEM, THE PROPERTY IS THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF LONG BAY ROAD AND SUNRISE FARMS ROAD.

THIS IS ALSO IN THE OAKLEY BRANDON RIDGE DISTRICT WHICH IN THIS CASE IS UNDER THE COMMISSIONERS DISTRICT FOUR.

THERE ARE TWO PARCELS INVOLVED. THE APPLICATION WOULD CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF THE TOTAL OF JUST UNDER 28 ACRES. THESE TWO PARCELS FROM BRANDON FIELD COMMUNITY CENTER AND BRANDON FIELD RURAL SUBURBS TO BRANDON FIELD MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY AND BRANDON FIELD PRIMARY CONSERVATION NETWORK. SIGNS WERE POSTED ON THE PROPERTY AND MAILOUTS WENT TO ALL OF THE PROPERTIES WITHIN 35, WHICH NECESSITATED TWO LISTS OF RESIDENT NAMES.

ON THE MAP ON THE RIGHT, WE HAVE THE PARCEL MAP AND I JUST WANTED TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE OUTLINE IN RED OF THE TWO PARCELS. SO WE HAVE THE ONE ON THE RIGHT THAT IS ADJACENT TO LONG BAY ROAD, THE APPLICATION AFFECTS THE ENTIRE PARCEL. WHEREAS THE PARCEL ON THE LEFT, THERE'S A LARGE PORTION OF IT WHICH IS JUST LEFT WHITE, THAT IS NOT PART OF THIS APPLICATION. THE PART THAT IS HATCHED IS A 1.

IT IS PART OF THIS CONTRACT. AND ON THE LEFT YOU CAN SEE THE YELLOW OUTLINE IS THE SUBJECT AREA.

SO ON THE LEFT IS THE CURRENT LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.

THE PINK IS THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WHICH IS A MEDIUM HIGH RESIDENTIAL DENSITY USE. IT IS ALSO A MIXED USE SO IT

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ALLOWS COMMERCIAL. THE LEFT PARCEL IS THE RURAL SUBURBS, WHICH IS MORE OF A LOW RESIDENTIAL.

THE GREEN THAT YOU SEE IS THE PRIMARY CONSERVATION NETWORK, THERE IS A SMALL PORTION ON THAT PARCEL ON THE LEFT.

THE MAP ON THE RIGHT SHOWS YOU THE PROPOSED CHANGE AND I WILL MOVE ON -- IT IS A LITTLE EASIER TO SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PRIMARY CONSERVATION NETWORK IS PROPOSED TO BE EXPANDED IN TWO DIRECTIONS ON THE SITE.

THE BROWN COLOR IS THE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY, WHICH IS A DESIGNATION THAT IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ONLY USE.

AND THEN THE REMAINING PORTION OF THE VERY FAR LEFT OF THE SCREEN IS THE RURAL SUBURBS PART OF THE PROPERTY.

THE ALLOWED CURRENT -- UNDER THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS, IN TERMS OF RESIDENTIAL DENSITY FOR THE PROPERTIES, FOR THIS SUBJECT AREA, THE MINIMUM REQUIRED IS 163 UNITS, UP TO A MAXIMUM THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED OF 335.

BASED ON THE CHANGE OF THE LAND USE THAT IS PROPOSED, THAT WOULD CHANGE TO A MINIMUM REQUIRED OF 126 UNITS, UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 263. THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A SITE PLAN CONCEPTUAL ONE THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE INTENDING TO DEVELOP WHICH COMES WITH A 126 UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

AND THIS IS THAT PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND STREETS ARE IN PURPLE.

YOU CAN SEE THERE IS ONE STREET THAT COMES IN ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN. AND THEN IT EXITS DOWN ONTO SUNRISE FARMS. AND THEN THE PURPLE IN THE CENTER HAS ONE ACCESS TO SUNRISE FARMS AND IS ESSENTIALLY A LARGE CIRCLE WITH A RECREATION AREA ALL THE WAY TO THE LEFT.

SO THE OAK LEAF BRANDON RIDGE, HEARD THIS ITEM ON JUNE FIRST, THEY VOTED 4-2 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, WITH THE SUGGESTION THAT THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH BE INCREASED TO 45 FEET.

THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT THE CODE REQUIRES TWO DIFFERENT LOT SIZES. THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED 34 FEET AND 44 FEET AS TWO DIFFERENT SIZES.

THOSE MEET THE CODE REQUIREMENT. THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD THE ITEM ON JUNE SECOND, THEY VOTED 3-3 ON A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL BECAUSE THE VOTE WAS A TIE, THERE WAS NO RECOMMENDATION. STAFF LOOKED AT THE CRITERIA FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND HAS A PRESENTATION FOR YOU UNLESS YOU

HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME. >> AND THE APPLICANT?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. FIRST OFF, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

IT WAS COMPREHENSIVE AND INFORMATIVE.

MY NAME IS SCOTT INNIS, I AM THE PLANNING MANAGER.

AND I'M EXCITED TO TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT THIS.

IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE WORKED ON FOR A WHILE NOW.

AND AFTER GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK, I'M CONFIDENT THAT IT ADDRESSES THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE HEARD.

THIS IS, AS WAS STATED, A REDUCTION.

I KNOW THAT CATCHES PEOPLE OFF GUARD A LITTLE BIT WHEN A DEVELOPER OR A BUILDER COMES IN AND WANTS TO PROPOSE LESS HOMES.

THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND FIRST A LITTLE BACKGROUND. HERE WE GO.

THERE IS THE SITE. THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF LONG BEACH ROAD AND SUNRISE FARMS ROAD.

HERE IT IS AGAIN. YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS SOME DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA IN THE RECENT PAST.

WE'VE GOT 14020-FOOT WIDE TOWNHOMES, THOSE HAVE THE SAME LAND USE AS THE CURRENT LAND USE OF THE SITE.

AND THIS JUST REALLY EXEMPLIFIES THE GROWTH THAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING. IT IS FOLLOWING LANDING, IT IS

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FOLLOWING THE EXPRESSWAY. AND THAT IS ALL REALLY BEING DRIVEN BY THE LAND USE MAP. YOU SEE OUR SITE THERE, OUTLINED IN THE LIGHT BLUE. IT IS A VERY HIGH DENSE LAND USE THE OTHER BEING LESS SO. THE REASON WHY WE WANT TO REDUCE DENSITY IS REALLY TWOFOLD. LET ME SHOW YOU HERE.

THE STRUGGLE THAT WE HAVE WITH THE SITE IS THAT BFCC HAS A MINIMUM DENSITY. WHICH WOULD REQUIRE TWO THINGS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO. IT WOULD REQUIRE YOU TO BUILD TOWNHOMES, IN FACT IT DOESN'T EVEN ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, WHICH IS WHY YOU HAVE TOWNHOMES ACROSS THE STREET.

SO YOU'RE REQUIRED TO DO TOWNHOMES, WE WOULD PREFER TO DO SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED. AND WOULD ALSO -- BECAUSE THE MINIMUM IS SO HIGH, YOU HAVE TO IMPACT MOST OF THE WETLANDS ON THAT PARCEL. AND WE ALSO WANT TO MINIMIZE WETLAND IMPACTS. SO OUR PROPOSED SOLUTION IS THIS. AS DUE TO THE OUTLINE, PUTTING MOST OF THE LAND IN, YOU HAVE PUT 7 ACRES OF WETLANDS INTO CONSERVATION, THAT IS 7 ACRES. AND YOU REDUCE THE DENSITY.

SO THEN YOUR MINIMUM DENSITY IS SIX UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH GETS YOU UP TO 126 UNITS, IF THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT US NOT FOLLOWING THE 126 UNITS, WE ARE HAPPY TO SIGN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR A DEVELOPER AGREEMENT. ALL WE'RE PROPOSING IS 126, THAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM. 34-FOOT AND 40-FOOT WIDE LOTS.

THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER BENEFITS, I WOULD LIKE TO OUTLINE THOSE.

THE OVERARCHING STORY IS HERE WE ARE REDUCING DENSITY.

BUT IT IS WORTH HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THESE OTHER ITEMS. AS I MENTIONED, THERE IS 7 ACRES OF WETLANDS THAT GO INTO CONSERVATION. THIS COULD NEVER BE DEVELOPED.

THERE IS A RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION THAT WE WOULD BE DOING ALONG LONG BAY, THAT IS ALONG THE SUN TRAIL, THAT IS ON THE NETWORK OF NONMOTOR -- IT IS BASICALLY A SHARED USE PATH.

SOMETHING NON-MOTORIZED, A SHARED USE NON-MOTORIZED, I THINK. AS A NETWORK THROUGHOUT FLORIDA PASSES, THAT IT'S ALREADY PLANNED BY THE COUNTY AND WE ARE AWARE OF IT. IT RUNS ALONG LONG BAY THERE ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, WE WOULD BE DEDICATING 25 FEET FROM THAT. AND THEN ON THE BOTTOM THERE YOU SEE SUNRISE FARMS ROAD RUNOFF PROTECTION.

THIS GETS A LITTLE NUANCED BUT I WILL WALK YOU THROUGH IT.

SO TO THE WEST OF US, THERE IS ANOTHER SITE.

IT IS A RATHER UNPOPULAR RV CAMPGROUND THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED. WE ARE NOT A PART OF THAT.

I BRING IT UP BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE A DEVELOPER AGREEMENT TO PAVE SUNRISE FARMS ROAD. THEY ARE OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR DEVELOPER AGREEMENT. IF THEY STAY OUT OF COMPLIANCE OR IF THEY JUST WALK AWAY FROM THE SITE OR WHATEVER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS. IF SUNRISE FARMS IS NOT PAVED BY THE TIME THE OTHER PROJECT COMES IN AND GOES THROUGH -- I'M BLANKING. WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PAVE IT.

THE REASON I DIDN'T JUST WRITE PAVE SUNRISE FARMS ROAD, WHICH I HAD PREVIOUSLY WRITTEN ON THERE, IS THAT IF THEY GET INTO COMPLIANCE AND PAVE THE ROAD THEN WE WOULDN'T BE PAVING IT, REGARDLESS, THEY ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE DRAINAGE FOR IT. AND WE ARE PREPARED TO RECEIVE THAT DRAINAGE INTO OUR SITE. FLOODING IS A MAJOR CONCERN IN THIS AREA. I TOTALLY RESPECT THAT.

BEFORE I WORKED THERE, I'M STILL A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER. EVERYTHING I DID WAS DRAINAGE DESIGNS. I HAVE AN EYE FOR DRAINAGE, I COMPLETELY RESPECT IT. PERMITS REQUIRE YOU TO REDUCE RUNOFF FROM YOUR OWN SITE. WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE DOING THAT AND AS A MEASURE OF GOOD FAITH WE WOULD ALSO ACCEPT RUNOFF FROM SUNRISE FARMS ROAD. THESE ARE JUST ADDITIONAL BENEFITS THAT WE BELIEVE HELP MEET SOME OF THE COMMUNITY CONCERNS. THERE THEY ARE LISTED AGAIN.

THERE IS ALSO ACTIVE COUNTY REQUIREMENTS.

REQUIREMENTS DRAINAGE I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TO IT TOO MUCH BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY WE WILL FOLLOW ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, CLAUSE THAT REQUIRES YOU TO REDUCE RUNOFF IN THE SITE, WE WOULD DO THAT. WE WOULD OF COURSE, FEMA REQUIREMENTS, COUNTY REQUIREMENTS, SO WE WOULD BE

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REDUCING RUNOFF AND REDUCING FLOOD CONCERNS, THAT IS A VERY CONCERNING AREA. OUR ENGINEERS HERE WHO CAN SPEAK TO THAT MORE. WE TAKE FLOODING VERY SERIOUSLY.

THE SCHOOL AND TRAFFIC CAPACITY, I JUST WANT TO BRING THIS UP BECAUSE I THINK IT GETS BROUGHTG FOR THE COUNTY'S PROCESS IS TAKEN CARE OF DURING PERMITTING WHICH HAPPENS AFTER LAND USE.

SO OF COURSE WE WILL FOLLOW ALL THE COUNTY'S REQUIREMENT FOR CONCURRENCY, THE SCHOOL BOARD'S REQUIREMENTS, WHATEVER IMPACTS THE COUNTY DEEMS NEEDS TO BE MITIGATED FOR, VIA TURN LANE, WHATEVER, WE WOULD DO ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

WE ARE FULLY AWARE OF THIS NEED, SOMEBODY WILL PROBABLY ASK ABOUT OUR TRAFFIC STUDY, THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS DONE AFTER LAND USE.

WE DON'T HAVE IT YET, BUT WHATEVER THE TRAFFIC STUDY, WHATEVER IMPACTS ARE FOUND TO BE, WE WOULD HANDLE THEM THROUGH A CONCURRENCY PROCESS. A QUESTION THAT OFTEN COMES UP IS WHY DON'T YOU JUST WANT TO DO THIS NOW WITH THE CURRENT LAND USE? THE BIG THING FOR US IS WE CAN GET A MUCH BETTER HOME VALUE FROM A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, BETTER FOR THE HOME OWNER, AND IT IS BETTER FOR THE ADJACENT PROPERTY VALUE, WE BELIEVE IT IS BETTER FOR THE COMMUNITY.

WE WOULD BE GOING INTO THIS REDUCED DENSITY STEPS LAND USE OF 20-FOOT WIDE TOWNHOMES ACROSS LONG BAY, 1 ACRE LOTS ACROSS SUNRISE FARM ROAD, SO WE ARE SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN.

WE ARE TRYING TO RESPECT THE COMMUNITY, STEP IT, AND WE BELIEVE IT'S A REASONABLE APPROACH.

SO, AGAIN IT IS A DENSITY REDUCTION, I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AS MUCH AS I CAN, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THE COMMUNITY COMES UP AND SPEAKS AND I KNOW THAT THEY WILL, WE ARE COMMITTED TO THIS SITE. PEOPLE ASK ME WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DON'T GET THE LAND USE, JUST GO AWAY.

THE ANSWER IS NO. THIS SITE IS DEVELOPABLE RIGHT NOW, WE WON'T PUT A REDUCED NUMBER BUT WE ARE COMMITTED TO THE SITE, THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE COMMITTED TO SELLING THE SITE AND WE WANT TO FIND SOMETHING THAT WORKS WELL FOR THE COMMUNITY AND BE GOOD PARTNERS.

THAT IS WHY WE ARE PROPOSING THIS AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY. IF WE WERE NOT PROPOSING A LAND USE WE WOULD JUST GO INTO A PERMIT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH A COMMUNITY AND FIND SOMETHING WE CAN ALL BE HAPPY WITH. AND THAT IS IT.

I AM HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS. >> WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION OF 45-FOOT --

>> THAT WAS THE CSC. IT WON'T WORK.

MY ANSWER... I KNOW THE COSTS WE HAVE TO COVER, SO FOR EXAMPLE IF WE HAVE TO PAY SUNRISE FARMS ROAD, THE DRAINAGE OF SUNRISE FARM ROADS, AND ON TOP OF THAT THE CURRENT PROPERTY, I'M NOT AN APPRAISER BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHEN A PROPERTY IS APPRAISED, THE VALUE TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE CURRENT LAND USE.

THAT CURRENT LAND USE ALLOWS 300 SOMETHING HOMES.

SO THE PRICE YOU PAY FOR THE CURRENT PROPERTY REFLECTS PUTTING ALL 300 SOMETHING HOMES. SO IT BECOMES UNFEASIBLE FOR US.

>> IS IT ALSO TRUE THAT YOUR -- IT IS CHEAPER FOR YOU BECAUSE

NOT GOING INTO AS MANY WETLANDS? >> THERE IS A TRADE OFF YES, REDUCING WETLANDS IMPACT IS IMPORTANT, YES.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. I HAVE AMBER CROSBY FIRST, AND

NEXT STEPHEN. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, THANK YOU FOR

THE TIME TO SPEAK TODAY. >> HOLD ON JUST A SECOND -- WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE THE LIGHTS. YOU CAN GO AHEAD.

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>> HELLO MY NAME IS AMBER CROSBY, YOU HAVE MY ADDRESS ON FILE. I SPOKE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN OPPOSITION OF REZONING THIS PROPERTY, AT THE TIME I WAS UNAWARE OF ITS CURRENT ZONING, A DEVELOPMENT OF THAT SIZE WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY DEVASTATING TO THIS AREA AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE. PUTTING A PROFIT OVER THE LIVELIHOODS OF PEOPLE THAT CURRENTLY LIVE THERE.

THE PROMISING FEATURES OF THIS REZONING IS THE ADDITION OF CONSERVATION STRATEGY AND DOWNSIZING DENSITY IN THE AREA, I WANT TO ALSO ECHO MY PREVIOUS STATEMENTS ON THE CONSEQUENCES OF COVERING NATURAL RUNOFF AND WETLANDS WITH FILTER DOES IT NOT ACT LIKE A SPONGE IN THE SAME WAY THE NATURAL WETLANDS DO.

THESE PONDS ONLY COLLECT AND HOLD RAINWATER TO THAT SPACE.

THEY ARE USUALLY HIGHER THAN THE SURROUNDING AREAS WHERE THERE ARE STILL ACTIVE WETLANDS, WHILE ALSO CHOPPING UP THE NATURAL CORRIDOR ON BLACK CREEK FOR THE WILDLIFE COMING IN AND OUT OF THE FOREST. THE CREEK ITSELF STILL RELIES ON A SUMMER RAIN RUNOFF WHICH WE ARE ESSENTIALLY BLOCKING WITH A HOSE IN THE GROUND THAT ARE ALIGNED WITH NONABSORBENT PAPER.

REMOVING THE FLOOD ZONES TO AREAS THAT HAVE ONLY BEEN A MILD TO NON-EXISTENT BEFORE. AND THIS AREA IN PARTICULAR IS ONE OF THOSE MAJOR FLOOD RELIEF ZONES FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE NOW. ON A SIDE NOTE, THE MASTER PLAN WAS DEVELOPED OVER A FEW YEARS IN THE AREA, RESULTING ALSO IN MULTIPLE FOREST FIRES WITHIN THE MASSIVE AREA IN 1998, AND 2001, WAS RANKED AMONG THE MOST INTENSE, WIDESPREAD AND LONGEST LASTING DROUGHTS IN FLORIDA HISTORY.

WHICH IS WHEN THIS MASTER PLAN WAS MODELED, SO THE PEOPLE WHO WERE WORKING ON THIS MASTER PLAN OR LOOKING AT AN AREA THAT WAS DRY, IT WASN'T IN ITS CURRENT NORMAL STATE.

SOON AFTER THAT WAS FOLLOWED BY WALMART, HOME DEPOT AND ST. VINCENT AND AZALEA RIDGE. PLEASE UNDERSTAND WE MAY NOT GET ANOTHER CHANCE TO DOWNSIZE THIS PARCEL OF LAND WITH DENSITY, LET ALONE ADD TO THE CONSERVATION LAND OF.

MOREOVER, MORE PROTECTIONS NEED TO BE PUT IN PLACE FOR WETLANDS AND KEEPING THE WILDLIFE PORTION INTERCONNECTED AND HEALTHY.

THANK YOU. >> NEXT WE WILL HAVE JOSEPH.

LOVE YOUR SHIRT. [LAUGHTER]

>> THANK YOU. STEVE VAN BLUM, THANK YOU, TODAY IS ACTUALLY NATIONAL FLAMINGO DAY.

STEVE VAN. [BOOING] I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS A GREAT IDEA WITH THE EXTENSION OF THE CONSERVATION, AND KEEPING AN EYE ON WHAT THE ENVIRONMENT, AND WHAT IS AN IDEA OF REDUCING UNITS. THAT IS AN AWESOME IDEA.

YOU CAN WIN HEARTS AND MINDS WITH THAT.

HOWEVER THIS PLAN IS A POISON PILL.

YOU CANNOT SELL ME THIS IDEA THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL WITH TRAILER PARK SIZED LOTS.

NO, IF YOU BUILT THIS IN PORT LEAF OR MAYBE IN MIDDLEBURG, AN ACTUAL CITIES WHERE IT'S BUSY OR EVEN JACKSONVILLE, THAT WOULD FIT JUST PERFECT. BUT IF YOU DRIVE DOWN THE STREET YOU WILL SEE FARMLAND, FARMHOUSES, RANCH HOUSES.

HOUSES ON ACRES WITH SPACE AROUND THEM FOR WHATEVER MULTIPLE USE THEY WANT TO USE FOR AGRICULTURE OR WHAT HAVE Y YOU. HOW WOULD IT BE RATHER -- I WOULD USE WORDS -- UPSET, IF OUR NEIGHBOR HAD TO LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS. IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD THIS, THEY ARE LARGE HOMES. IT'S ACTUALLY VERY ATTRACTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN THE RESIDENTIAL SUBURBAN, IT GETS TALKED ABOUT DENSITY, ONE HOUSE PER 5 ACRES AS HIGH AS ONE HOUSE PER 1 ACRE. IT IS CONSISTENT WITH -- I'M PARAPHRASING, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH COUNTRY SET UP.

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SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO BUILD, THIS IS A POISON PILL IDEA. I COMMEND YOU FOR TRYING TO REDUCE TO MAKE THIS FIT, WE ARE TRYING TO FIT A SQUARE PEG IN A ROUND HOLE. IT WON'T FIT.

I KNOW ACROSS THE STREET WE HAVE TOWNHOMES, I DIDN'T REALLY LOOK TOO MUCH INTO THAT BUT IF YOU LOOK IN THE WATER SITUATION WITH THIS PROPERTY, RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN A DROUGHT AND WE ARE REALLY DRY RIGHT NOW. IF YOU LOOK AT GOOGLE MAPS, ANY DRIVE DOWN THE STREET AND GOOGLE MAPS YOU WILL COME TO THIS PROPERTY, YOU CAN SET IT WHERE IT GOES BACK TO PREVIOUS YEARS, AND I WENT BACK PRETTY FAR, I THINK LIKE 2008 OR 2009, I MIGHT BE WRONG, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.

THAT LAND WAS WET. IT WAS WATER -- IT WAS MUDDY IT WAS WET. NOW IT LOOKS PRISTINE TO BUILD ALL OVER. WHEN WE GOT WATER, WE ARE EXPECTING WATER TO COME BACK HERE SOON, THIS IS GOING TO BE DISASTROUS ESPECIALLY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THE WEST AND NORTH HOUSE AREAS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER?

>> HELLO AND GOOD EVENING. I PUT OUT SOME PICTURES IF YOU DON'T MIND, THANK YOU SO MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT.

GOOD EVENING, -- SORRY. GOOD EVENING MY NAME IS JOE, 3973 SUNRISE POND ROAD I OWN AND OPERATE A SMALL FARM ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROPERTY WHERE WE RAISE CATTLE, HORSES CATTLE PIGS AND CHICKENS WITH A FARM STAND, SERVING COMMUNITY SOURDOUGH. FOR THE MAP REFERENCE, THAT GREEN LINE JUST SOUTH OF THAT GREEN LINE IS A PENTAGON SHAPED PROPERTY. BEHIND THAT -- THAT 7-ACRE PENTAGON SHAPED PROPERTY IS MY FARM, ON THE EAST YOU CAN SEE AND THE WEST. I WAS STARTED BY MAKING MY POINT VERY SIMPLE. IF THIS DEVELOPMENT PROCEEDS AS PROPOSED IT WILL FLOOD OUT MY FARM AND FOUR OTHER MULTIGENERATIONAL FARMS AROUND IT.

THE PROPOSED PLAN IS GOING TO TURN 27 ACRES OF PASTURE LAND WHICH CURRENTLY ABSORBS RAINWATER INTO ROADS, HOUSES AND DRIVEWAYS. THIS WATER WILL RUN OFF INTO WETLANDS BETWEEN THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT GREEN SPACE, AND FLOW DIRECTLY INTO MY STREAM GOING STRAIGHT TO BLACK CREEK.

THESE PICTURES TAKEN LAST NIGHT, RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU WERE TAKEN LAST NIGHT. JUST A COUPLE EVENINGS OF RAIN THIS WEEK. IT ALREADY FLOODS AND HOLDS WATER. THIS STREAM DITCH IN MY PASTURE IS FULL OF WATER LAST YEAR, IF MY STREAM HAD TO HANDLE ALL OF THE WATER RUNOFF FROM THE 27 ACRES ACROSS THE STREET IT WOULD MOST CERTAINLY OVERFLOW AND FLOOD MY HOUSE AND MY BARN, COSTING MY FAMILY EVERYTHING. IT'S NOT JUST MY FARM, THERE'S AT LEAST FOUR OTHER FARMS IN THIS EXACT POSITION, CAMPBELL, AS SOON AS WE ARE OUT OF THIS DROUGHT IN THE COMING MONTHS WE WILL BE BACK TO OUR DAILY RAINFALL AND MY FIELDS WILL BECOME -- MY HORSE'S FEET WILL BE INFECTED AND IT WILL BE A MESS AND MY HOUSE WILL CERTAINLY FLOOD IN THE NEXT STORM.

CURRENTLY THE WATER DOESN'T QUITE FLOOD MY HOUSE BUT THE NEXT STORM MOST CERTAINLY WILL. IF WE VOTE YES ON THIS WE ARE VOTING TO DESTROY NOT ONLY MY FARM BUT MANY OTHERS AROUND US, SO MANY REASONS PEOPLE MOVED TO CLAY COUNTY.

WE LOVE CLAY COUNTY. WE BELIEVE IT IS A SPECIAL PLACE. I AM NOT ANTI-GROWTH.

WE HAVE INCREDIBLE NEIGHBORS, I KNOW EVERY NEIGHBOR ON MY STREET AND THEY ARE AWESOME. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE TEN OR 20 OR 30 NEW NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET.

BUT THE DIFFERENCE IN WATER DRAINAGE FROM ONE HOUSE ON A HALF ACRE OR QUARTER ACRE TO 126 HOUSES ON 35 BY 80 LOTS IS A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE IN DRAINAGE. I KNOW THE DEVELOPER CLAIMS THEY WERE HANDLING WATER BUT THE WETLAND CRITICS DON'T HELP MY PROPERTY. I DON'T HAVE FAITH IN THE PROMISES, BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY I AM SORRY, I DON'T HAVE FAITH IN THAT. I NEED TO THINK OF THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET WILL NEVER BE DEVELOPED.

HOWEVER THE CURRENT PROPOSAL DOES NOT MATCH THE SURROUNDING AREA, -- I WOULD HATE TO THINK -- AND LOOKS LIKE WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A BEAUTIFUL RURAL TOWN.

I WOULD LIKE TO BE CLEAR I APPRECIATE THE MOTION TO HAVE A LESS DENSE THAN AVAILABLE, BUT THAT CURRENT PROPOSAL IS GOING TO COMPLETELY RUIN MY FARM. SOMETHING IN BETWEEN THAT MATCHES THE SURROUNDINGS WOULD BE AWESOME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> FERNANDEZ THEN FELICIA.

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OKAY VERY GOOD THANK YOU. TERESA, ALSO? WE HAVE ADRIAN AND NEXT IT'LL BE LINDSEY.

>> HOW ARE YOU ALL DOING TODAY? ADRIAN, I WILL SPEND THE MAJORITY OF MY CAREER LOOKING AT PROPERTY VALUES, LOOKING AT COMMUNITIES AND BUSINESSES RELOCATION.

WHEN I DESCRIBE A PLACE LIKE CLAY COUNTY, IT IS GROWING.

LAST THREE YEARS WE PROBABLY HAVE SEEN 20 OR 30 YEARS.

I WANTED TO LOOK AT THIS PROPOSAL, IT REALIZES THAT THE DENSITY IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, THE DENSITY THAT THEY HAVE -- THE DENSITY REDUCTION HAS ADDED A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE AREA AND I KNOW EVERYBODY HERE UNDERSTANDS ABOUT THE FARMS -- I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FARMS, I GREW UP IN THE CITY.

BUT I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE FEAR OF DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THE FIRST THING YOU HEAR YOU THINK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE COMING TO TOWN THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC IT IS GOING TO CREATE.

I JUST WANT TO STAND IN AND SAY, AS A REALTOR AND A PERSON WHO MEETS PEOPLE HERE ALL THE TIME, LOOKING AT THIS AREA, WHAT HAS HAPPENED INSIDE OF IT, I'M LOOKING AT A BUILDER AND I SEE MUCH MORE THAN I HAVE SEEN THE MAJORITY THAT HAS BEEN BUILT INSIDE OF THIS CITY OR THIS AREA.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE TYPES OF HOMES, THEY PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THEY ARE DOING AS FAR AS LAND USE, AS FAR AS CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROPERTY, THEY STEP IN, LIKE INSTALLATION, CONDITION, ATTICS. IT'S NOT LIKE I'M LOOKING AT A BUILDER THAT WANTS TO BUILD A PROPERTY JUST TO SELL CATEGORY BUILDING A PROPERTY -- I THINK IT IS A PART OF THE GROWTH HAPPENING INSIDE OF CLAY COUNTY, THE CHANGE HAPPENING INSIDE OF CLAY COUNTY AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE. >> THANK YOU.

TELL ME WHEN YOU ARE READY. >> I THINK I'M READY.

THAT'S NOT RIGHT -- SORRY. [LAUGHTER]

>> YOU ARE JOHN! >> HERE WE GO.

I THINK THIS IS RIGHT. THERE WE GO.

I AM LINDSEY, I LIVE AT 2100 SOUTH, I LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE VERY FAMOUS RV PARK. MY PROPERTY IS DIRECTLY ALONGSIDE IT. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT ONE PICTURE THERE, I SHOULD HAVE PRINTED OUT MORE BUT MY PRINTER WASN'T WORKING. MY PROPERTY, I HAVE A SMALL FARM AS WELL. MY PASTURE IS ACTUALLY ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE. THE PARK IS KIND OF DIVIDED IN HALF BY IT. THE BACK HALF OF MY PROPERTY IS FLOOD ZONE, WHERE IT RISES AND THAT AREA FLOODS, MY NEIGHBORS ACTUALLY GET IT A LOT WORSE THAN I DO.

SO FAR IT'S ONLY GONE TO OUR GARAGE AND OUTSIDE OF OUR HOUSE BUT THE FRONT OF MY PROPERTY, WHERE MY GOATS ARE, THAT IS ALL FLOOD ZONE X. IT HAPPENS MULTIPLE TIMES A YEAR. HOWEVER AFTER THE DEFORESTATION AND THE LANDFILL BUILT NEXT TO OUR PROPERTY, WE HAVE SEEN ANY KIND OF RAINFALL WE WILL GET AT LEAST 6 INCHES OR MORE, USUALLY HAVE TO PUT ON RAIN BOOTS TO GO OUT THERE.

WE KNEW THIS AREA WAS A FLOOD AREA, SO WE BUILT IT SO IF IT FLOODS THEY CAN GET OUT, THE GOATS DON'T LIKE BEING WET AT ALL. THEY REFUSE TO COME DOWN SO.

[INAUDIBLE] ALL OF THIS TO SAY THESE WETLANDS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE WETLANDS BUT THE FOREST AROUND THEM. THESE TREES ABSORB THAT WATER SO WHEN TO TAKE THOSE OUT, IT FLOODS OUT -- IT DOESN'T HOLD ALL THE WATER, LIKE TRYING TO EXPECT A VOLCANO TO ENGULF ALL

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OF THE RAIN AND WON'T FLOOD DOWN ON THE PROPERTY AROUND IT.

BETWEEN THAT AND PRESERVING OUR WETLANDS, PRESERVING OUR RURAL AREAS AND OUR FARMS SURROUNDING THESE PROPERTIES, THIS COULD EASILY BE FOR MORE RURAL FARMS. SORRY -- I'M NOT USED TO TALKING. AND I REALLY HAD MORE THAN I WANTED TO SAY BUT I FEEL LIKE I'M ALREADY RUNNING OUT OF TIME.

BUT, YEAH, I DID INCLUDE TWO OTHER MAPS WHICH SHOW THE FLOOD AREAS. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THEIR, THAT PROPERTY IS FLOOD ZONE X ALONG THAT SIDE, AND ANOTHER MEMBER HAD MENTIONED, THERE'S ALREADY SITTING WATER ON THAT SIDE WHICH IS STILL FLOOD ZONE X. THESE MAPS DON'T REALLY SHOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LIVE IN THIS AREA.

I REMEMBER WHEN I LIVED IN ORANGE HEART, I LIVED IN A RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD A HOUSE THAT WAS UP ON A HILL AND IT WAS ACTUALLY A PRETTY DECENT HILL. PEOPLE AT THE END OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WERE ACTUALLY DOWN THE ROAD, BUT THE WATER CAME LIKE REALLY HIGH UP. BUT BECAUSE WE HAD THOSE STORM DRAINS , THAT WATER DISSIPATED SO QUICKLY, AS SOON AS THE RAIN STOPS BY LIKE HALFWAY. ALL THESE PROPERTIES AROUND THESE DEVELOPMENTS THEY DON'T HAVE THAT.

THE WATER IS TRYING TO MAKE ITS WAY BACK TO THE CREEK, THERE'S A CULVERT OR DITCH TO SIT, OF THAT DOESN'T MEET CAPACITY IT'S JUST SITTING THERE AND IT DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYBODY ELSE?

>> MY ADDRESS IS ON FILE. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR EVERYTHING YOU ARE DOING I CALL THE CONSIDERATION.

I KNOW IT HAS BEEN POINTED OUT THAT THIS IS IN THE BRANAN FIELD MASTER PLAN AREA, AS WE LOOK AT THE BRANAN FIELD MASTER PLAN WHOEVER DESIGNED THAT WHENEVER THAT WAS DESIGNED, IT WAS BEFORE MY TIME OF PAYING ATTENTION. THIS LAND ALLOWS A HIGHER DENSITY, SO MUCH OF THAT WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO CALCULATE THE TOWNHOMES ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS AREA. I DO COMMEND YOU FOR COMING HERE AND TRYING TO CHANGE THAT LAYOUT AND TRYING TO REDUCE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE COMMUNITY FULLY UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE MASTER PLAN, LIVING IN AN AREA LIKE THAT DOES TO THE DYNAMICS OF THIS AREA, AND WE GOT SO USED TO WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE CURRENTLY AND WHAT IS EXPECTED WHEN YOU MOVE IN, BUT UNFORTUNATELY AND I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THE REALTORS, DON'T TELL PEOPLE YOU'RE MOVING INTO A MASTER PLAN AREA. IT MAKES IT HARD AND COMPLICATED. AND I DO APPRECIATE THE REDUCTION IN THAT UNIT, AND I HOPE THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. IF THIS WAS NOT CHANGED, THE FRONT PART WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THAT LAND COULD BE THE TOWNHOMES, WITH THAT HIGHER DENSITY, IT WOULD LOOK TOTALLY DIFFERENT. SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE KIND OF LOOKING AT AS WE ARE MAKING THESE DECISIONS I WILL CONTINUE PRAYING FOR YOU ALL AS MUCH AS YOU PRAY FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND MAKING THE RIGHT DECISIONS SO THANK YOU.

>> ANYBODY ■ELSE PLEASE FILL OUT THE CARD.

>> YES, MA'AM. MY NAME IS JOSEPH CUNNINGHAM, I'M A LIFELONG CLAY COUNTY RESIDENT AND MY ADDRESS IS ON FILE. I JUST WANT TO SAY, I THANK THE BOARD FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS. I FEEL LIKE THESE DEVELOPERS ARE ALMOST HOLDING THE COUNTRY HOSTAGE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD THEY SAY OKAY YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE US OUR HOMES? YOU WILL GET TOWNHOMES.

THAT IS NOT A GOOD OPTION. YOU CAN'T JUST DESTROY THE WETLANDS AND SAY ALL RIGHT, YOU WANT HOUSES OR HOMES OR TOWNHOMES? IT'S NEITHER.

THE BOARD NEEDS TO ADOPT MORE WETLAND CONSERVATION EFFORTS TO STOP THIS BECAUSE IT IS HAPPENING HERE AND IT WILL HAPPEN THERE AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT IT'S ONE GIANT CEREAL BOWL.

I HAD A LOT OF FAMILY IN CLAY COUNTY THAT GOT FLOODED OUT DURING IRMA IN THAT AREA, AND THEY WERE NEVER IN A FLOOD ZONE AND NOW THEY ARE. THE OTHER PART ABOUT IT IS RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA, WHAT IS THEIR FLOOD INSURANCE GOING TO LOOK LIKE? THEY MAY NOT BE IN A FLOOD ZONE NOW BUT THE NEXT HURRICANE THEY MAY BE.

NOW YOU ARE PUTTING THE DEVELOPERS RECEIVING THE RIGHTS

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TO BUILD THIS AT THE EXPENSE OF RESIDENTS HAVING TO PURCHASE FLOOD INSURANCE THAT THEY NEVER HAD BEFORE.

AND I THINK IT IS VERY DISRESPECTFUL OF THE DEVELOPERS TO COME AND TREAT US THIS WAY, BASICALLY SAY WE ARE DOING YOU A FAVOR, WE WON'T TAKE THE WETLANDS DON'T WORRY WE WON'T DESTROY ALL OF IT. BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT WE WILL DO WHAT WE WANT. I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH WHAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS, AND WHILE I MAY NOT LIVE IN AN AREA THAT IS DIRECTLY AFFECTED, THIS ONE MIGHT HAPPEN, WHEN WILL THE NEXT ONE BE? NEAR MY HOUSE, YOUR HOUSE? WE DON'T KNOW. SO BE RESPONSIBLE AND AGAIN I OPPOSE THIS, AND THANK YOU THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERING THIS AND I THINK THE BOARD SHOULD TAKE MORE INTO ACCOUNT OF COUNTY RESIDENTS HERE WHY ARE WE SERVICING PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE HERE YET?

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

PLEASE GET A CARD. >> THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS MEL WE ACTUALLY OWN THE 52 ACRES THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE THE 12 IN THE FRONT.

APPOINTED SOMEBODY MADE, WE ALTERED THE BACK 40 TO A CONSERVATION PROGRAM, AND I THINK IT HAS BEEN APPROVED SO YOU GUYS CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT. THE OTHER ISSUE IS THE DRAINAGE.

WE HAVE OWNED THE PROPERTY FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS, THAT ROAD, SUNRISE FARMS, IT'S BEEN -- THAT USED TO BE STORM DRAINAGE ACROSS SUNRISE FARMS, SO THE DRAINAGE. [INAUDIBLE] EVERY TIME THE COUNTY COMES IN AND DEGRADES IT, IT GETS COVERED UP. I THINK ONCE THE ENGINEERING IS DONE HERE YOU WON'T HAVE MORE FLOODING PROBLEMS, PARTICULARLY WITH THE IMPROVED AREA THERE THAT YOU SEE NOW.

JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT.

THANK YOU. >> YOU WILL NEED YOUR CARD PAPER. DID YOU GET A CARD?

WHAT IS YOUR NAME? >> HE DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT

YOU WERE SAYING. >> THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. >> MY NAME IS STEVE, I LIVE 4019 SUNRISE ROAD. THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE PERIOD THE BIGGEST CONCERN I HAVE IS FLOODING, THE DRAINAGE, ALL THAT PROPERTY IN THE NORTH AND SOUTH GOES DOWN TOWARDS BLACK CREEK. THE LAST BIG HURRICANE WE HAD THAT FLOODED THE BLACK CREEK WATER TO THE BACK OF MY HOUSE.

THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE AT THE FARM, THE LITTLE CREEK THAT RUNS IN THERE, THE DRAINAGE, MY PROPERTY BEHIND ME.

WHAT RECOURSE WILL I HAVE WHEN THEY DEVELOP IT, HOW HIGH IS THE ELEVATION GOING TO BE? WHAT OPTIONS WILL I HAVE FOR FLOODING, FOR PROTECTION? YOU KNOW I GOT MY LIFE ON THAT PROPERTY. IT'S JUST...

I DON'T FEEL LIKE I HAVE PROTECTION.

IF THEY ALLOW STUFF LIKE THIS TO HAPPEN, WHEN WE FIRST MOVED IN, IT WAS NICE HIGH AND DRY ALONG FARMSIDE ROAD.

AND THEN 100 YARDS IN YOUR WET MUCK.

THE WATER IS RIGHT THERE. IT ALL RUNS FURTHER UP, THE PROPERTY RUNS BLACK CREEK. AND WE ARE RIGHT IN LINE WITH IT. AND I JUST DON'T SEE ANY GUARANTEES, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT WILL PROTECT US IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. YOU NEED TO FILL OUT A CARD PLEASE, SIR. THERE IS A CARD IN THE LOBBY,

YOU HAVE TO FILL IT OUT. >> MY NAME IS SHEENA, I LIVE AT 4025 SUNRISE FARM ROAD. AND FOR MANY YEARS, I HAVE MOVED IN THERE IN 2003, WENT THROUGH IRMA, IT WAS THE FIRST YEAR WE EVER HAD. [INAUDIBLE] ON OUR PROPERTY. BUT WHERE WE ARE, THE LAND ACROSS THE STREET, THAT IS OUR BIGGEST CONCERN.

WE UNDERSTAND THEY CAN DO SOMETHING WITH THE DRAINAGE, BUT

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BACK EVEN BEFORE IRMA THERE WERE TIMES WHERE I COULD NOT GET TO WORK BECAUSE THE BOTTOM OF THAT ROAD THAT SUNRISE FARMS TO LONG WAS TOTALLY BLOCKED OFF FROM STORMS GOING ACROSS, THE RAIN SITTING ACROSS SUNRISE FARMS ROAD.

AND NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE OTHER STREETS BECAUSE THEY WERE ALSO FLOODED. IT NEEDS TO BE KEPT AS WATER CONSERVATION, CONSERVATION AREA. OR MAYBE A SMALL FARM, A COUPLE SMALL FARMS, BUT -- I LIKE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE THERE, BUT NOT FOR 126 HOMES. IT WOULD JUST DESTROY OUR WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T KNOW MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS, WE ARE TIGHT CLOSE-KNIT COMMUNITY.

AND THIS WILL CAUSE A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON OUR ROADS, RIGHT NOW IT IS A DIRT ROAD, AND THE AMOUNT OF TIMES WE HAVE SEEN CARS GO DOWN THE ROAD AND MOTORBIKES, 50 MILES AN HOUR, AND I'M NOT EXAGGERATING. IT IS JUST AWFUL.

ONCE THAT GETS PAVED, WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

I JUST DON'T THINK THIS SHOULD GO THROUGH, THAT IS ALL I AM SAYING. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE?

>> TRACEY DANIEL, MY ADDRESS IS ON FILE.

DO I HAVE TO PUT SOMETHING? >> KNOW YOU ARE GOOD.

>> OKAY. I DO NOT LIVE IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, BUT I DO LIVE IN BLACK CREEK, AND WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THE ZONING OF THIS PLACE, THE REZONING EFFECTS ALL OF THE CONSERVATION ZONING GOING DOWN BLACK CREEK ON THAT CORRIDOR.

I HOPE I'M WRONG CAN I GO WITH THAT IS WHAT I'M SEEING AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. IF THAT IS ALLOWED THERE, IS THIS GOING TO BE A DOMINO ALL THE WAY DOWN BLACK CREEK? IT'S JUST UNSUSTAINABLE. THERE IS NO WAY THEY CAN PUT THAT THERE. ANYWAYS, BLACK CREEK, ONCE IT'S GONE IT'S GONE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ARE YOU COMING UP, SIR?

>> HEY, HOW Y'ALL DOING. MY NAME IS JAMES, I HAVE A COUPLE ACRES OUT THERE, AND I WAS UP TO TALK ABOUT THE WHAT DO YOU CALL IT THERE -- THE STATE OF EXECUTION I GUESS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. RIDICULOUS WE CAN'T -- [UNCLEAR] WHATEVER. BUT THIS IS MORE WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ANYWAY, AND THAT'S THE WETLANDS, US, THEY ARE THERE TO MAKE MONEY. AND I GET THAT, OKAY.

THAT IS THEIR PREROGATIVE AND THEIR JOB.

THEY CAN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. BECAUSE THIS PLACE IS SPECIAL, DO YOU UNDERSTAND? CLAY COUNTY IS SPECIAL.

THE GUYS WHO CAME BEFORE Y'ALL, YOU DID A GREAT JOB MAKING THIS COUNTY SOMEPLACE THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF FLORIDA IT STILL HAS THAT SMALL TOWN CHARM THAT IS SO IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US MAN. AND THE IMPORTANT THING I THINK IS THAT YOU GUYS FOCUS ON WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE COUNTY THAT'S ALREADY HERE INSTEAD OF WHAT THE COUNTY MIGHT BE IF WE JUST KEEP DEVELOPING MORE AND MORE PLACES FOR PEOPLE WHO AREN'T EVEN HERE YET, TO HAVE A LIFE THEY ARE NOT EVEN UNDERSTANDING YET.

DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY? IF EVERYBODY COULD JUST COME TOGETHER AT MEETINGS LIKE THIS, I THINK YOU WOULD HEAR A LOT MORE STORIES ABOUT HOW STUFF LIKE THIS WILL ACTUALLY HAVE REAL EFFECTS ON REAL PEOPLE, AND NOT JUST SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS OR YOU KNOW, PEOPLE YOU DON'T INTERACT WITH UNLESS YOU SEE THEM CUT YOU OFF IN TRAFFIC OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THERE IS SO MUCH THAT IS SO

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SPECIAL ABOUT THIS PLACE, AND KEYSTONE, AND MIDDLEBURG AND ALL THESE AREAS, THAT IT'S THIS TYPE OF STUFF THAT CAN BE PASSED OFF AS CARING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY? YOU WON'T HAVE A COMMUNITY TO LOVE TO CARE ABOUT. YOU WON'T HAVE NOTHING LEFT TO SAVE. AND I THINK MOST EVERYBODY HERE AND JUST EVERYBODY ELSE I KNOW WOULD AGREE WITH ME.

I APPRECIATE Y'ALL. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. YOU NEED A CARD, SIR, PLEASE GO TO THE BACK. HELLO MY NAME IS NANCY, 2722 IN MIDDLEBURG. I REALLY WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK SO THIS IS COMING TOGETHER ON MY PHONE.

I REALLY AGREE WITH THE SUNRISE FARMS PROJECT DEVELOPING BEFORE YOU KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING, YES, WE HAVE MORE AREAS, OKAY, LINDSEY WHO SPOKE BEFORE ME, I KNEW THE PREVIOUS OWNERS OF THAT HOUSE BECAUSE THEY HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 25 YEARS, ONLY THREE TIMES THEY HAD WATER COME ON THEIR PROPERTY, 3 ACRES FROM THE CREEK, ONE OF COURSE WAS IRMA AND THEN A COUPLE OTHER HURRICANES WHERE THEY HAD MINOR FLOODING LIKE THIS MUCH WATER IN THEIR BASEMENT. NOW WITH THE RV PARK, ELEVATING PROPERTY, PAVING OVER NATURAL DRAIN WAYS, THEY ARE GETTING FLOODING -- WE ARE GETTING FLOODING ON FALCON ROAD LANE ON A REGULAR BASIS, WITH NOT EVEN A MAJOR STORM.

I MEAN YOU CAN'T JUST CHANGE -- YOU CAN'T JUST PAVE OVER PARADISE AND PUT A PARKING LOT BECAUSE YOU ARE CHANGING THE DRAINAGE PATTERNS AND PUTTING OUR HOMES AT RISK.

AS FAR AS THE SUNRISE FARMS DEVELOPMENT, AND ALSO THE PROPOSED 220 DEVELOPMENT IN BRANAN, WE HAVE NO INFRASTRUCTURE FOR TRAFFIC. LONG BAY IS LIKE THAT ALL THE JENNINGS AND YOU HAVE THE CLUSTER, IT IS ALREADY A NIGHTMARE. I MEAN... EVACUATION ROUTES AND PEOPLE, ALL THESE PEOPLE TRYING TO GET OUT, ESPECIALLY NEW RESIDENTS WAIT UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE BECAUSE THEY WILL RIDE OUT THE STORM, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE CRAZY.

THE EVACUATION ROUTE FOR THE RV PARK, SUNRISE FARMS, LAZY ACRES IS WHY? THE FIRST ROAD TO FLOOD PERIOD.

THE OTHER EXIT ROUTE WOULD BE SUNRISE FARMS. AGAIN, NO TRAFFIC INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND WE ALSO HEARD ON FALCON ROAD LANE, THAT THEY ARE GOING TO PUNCH THROUGH AND PUT AN EVACUATION ROUTE ON FALCON RUN LANE, WHICH IS THE WORST DIRT ROAD IN CLAY COUNTY, PERIOD.

THERE ARE TIMES WE HAVE A HEAVY RAINSTORM, WE CANNOT GET OUT.

IT WASHES OUT, IT'S JUST NATURAL DRAINAGE.

WE KNOW THAT. I MEAN -- OKAY ONE MORE THING.

THE RV PARK, THEY RECENTLY PUT ON THEIR WEBSITE THEY ARE ALLOWING THEY ARE PUTTING IN A BOAT RAMP, ALLOWING THEIR 400 SOME ODD PEOPLE TO BRING THEIR PERSONAL WATERCRAFT AND LAUNCH INTO BLACK CREEK. WE LIVE ON THE ONLY 180-DEGREE TURN IN BLACK CREEK WHICH IS COMPLETELY BLIND WITH SITTING ON MY BACK PORCH ON THE WEEKENDS, WEEKEND WARRIORS, LOCALS, I SEE NEAR COLLISIONS ALL THE TIMES. THIS IS A COMPLETELY WOODED ISLAND YOU CANNOT SEE BOATS COME AROUND.

LET'S LOOK TO FIX THE PROBLEMS BEFORE -- LET'S JUST FIX IT, NOW BEFORE WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME DISASTERS HAPPEN.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT ANYBODY ELSE? WE ARE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. MAY I JUST SAY A COUPLE THINGS, WE ALL LIVE HERE IN CLAY COUNTY AND LOVE CLAY COUNTY, WE AGREE WITH YOU AS FAR AS HOW SPECIAL THE COUNTY IS.

WHEN I CAN HEAR, THERE'S ALREADY HOMES, I JUST WANT TO.

[INAUDIBLE] THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.

CORRECT. IS THE FLOODING GOING TO BE DIFFERENT WITH THAT PROPOSAL COMPARED TO THIS PROPOSAL? OR HOW SO WOULD IT BE IF THAT IS THE CASE?

>> IF THE -- LOOKING AT THE PARCEL ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THAT

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HAS THE CURRENT COMMUNITY CENTER LAND USE THAT ALLOWS THAT, SO IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO PUT THE FULL MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS ON THE PARCEL, THEY WOULD HAVE TO IMPACT VIRTUALLY ALL OF THE EXISTING WETLANDS ON THE SITE. SO YES, IT WOULD CREATE A GREATER DRAINAGE ISSUE. EVERY ENGINEER THAT DOES A PROJECT LIKE THIS SUBMITS THE PLANS HAS TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT.

THEY ARE REQUIRED TO KEEP THE RUNOFF ON THE PROPERTY AND TREAT THE SAME AMOUNT THAT IS CURRENTLY ON THE SITE BEFORE THEY BEGIN DEVELOPMENT, SO THE AFTER EFFECT IS THE SAME AS THE BEFORE. BUT... DOESN'T ALWAYS --

>> I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, I CANNOT SPEAK TO THAT.

>> I'M NOT SURE ON THE 300. THE ONLY PART THEY CAN PUT THE TOWNHOMES ON IS THE FAR LEFT PURPLE.

FAR RIGHT PURPLE. CORRECT?

>> NO THEY COULD PUT THE ENTIRE SITE.

>> NO THEY CAN'T, THIS IS NOT THE CURRENT ZONING.

>> CAN YOU GO BACK TO YOUR PRESENTATION? THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS THE CURRENT.

>> OKAY AND IN THE CURRENT, IN THE PURPLE, IN THEORY THEY COULD

PUT HOW MANY? >> 335 I THINK.

>> AND THEY HAVE ALL THE CREDITS, ALL THE SIZE, OR THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO DRIVEWAYS AND ALL THAT, YOU CAN ACTUALLY PUT

THEM ON THERE? >> THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO

VERTICALLY, HAVE HIGHER UNITS. >> THEY CAN'T GO HIGHER THAN TWO

STORIES. >> IT COULD BE MULTIFAMILY.

IT COULD BE APARTMENTS. >> THREE STORY?

>> IT IS NOT A HEIGHT LIMIT SO YES.

>> WITH A STORE? >> YES, IT'S A MIXED USE ALLOWANCE SO THERE COULD BE COMMERCIAL ON THE SITE IT COULD

IT BE DIVIDED UP. >> SO... I'LL WAIT, SORRY.

SO... I JUST WANT TO SAY, THE REALTOR WHO IS HERE, THE REALTOR -- [LAUGHTER] I THINK HE LEFT. HE IS RIGHT.

THIS BUILDER IS A GOOD BUILDER AND THEY ARE GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THEY ARE NOT LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER ONES THAT MAY START WITH AN IDEA -- THEY BUILD QUALITY HOMES. I DON'T THINK THAT -- I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT TALKING ABOUT BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS AND THEY ARE NOT FLY BY NIGHT, THEY ARE NOT COMING IN FROM OUT OF TOWN. AND I RECOGNIZE THIS IS WITHIN THE URBAN SERVICE BOUNDARY, AND NOBODY UP HERE -- THE URBAN SERVICE BOUNDARY IS A LINE THAT WAS CREATED AND IT BASICALLY SAYS THAT WITHIN THIS, WITHIN THE URBAN AREA THERE IS ENOUGH TO DEVELOP FOR 20 YEARS FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED HOMES.

THAT HOWEVER IS I WOULD SAY TO ANYBODY WHO THINKS THIS IS A GOOD IDEA, HAVE YOU DRIVEN OUT THERE? BECAUSE I DO. I DRIVE THERE A LOT.

I DRIVE DOWN LONG BAY A LOT OF THE.

I AM WITH YOU ON THE TRAFFIC. THE BEAUTY OF THIS BEING A LAND USE -- SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT ZONING OR LAND USE, WE ARE NOT BOUND TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON CERTAIN CRITERIA.

SO LAND USE AND ZONING IS REALLY, IT COULD BE REALLY BORING AND COMPLICATED AND A LOT OF YOU ARE LIKE WHY DOES THE BBC MAKE THE DECISIONS THEY MAKE AND SOMETIMES OUR HANDS ARE TIED LIKE WE DON'T GET TO MAKE DECISIONS ON THINGS THAT MAKE SENSE LOGICALLY LIKE TRAFFIC AND FLOODING AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS BUT WE DO GET TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON THINGS LIKE COMPATIBILITY AND ONE OF THE RESIDENTS SAID, JUST TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE AROUND.

AND MY FRIEND STEVE OVER THERE SAID THAT TOO, HE OBVIOUSLY DID GO LOOK AT THE PROPERTY, HE SITS ON ONE OF OUR ADVISORY COMMITTEES, AND IT MATTERS A LOT.

IN THIS AREA INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, SUNRISE FARMS ROAD, JUST SIX SHORT YEARS AGO, A PREVIOUS COUNTY ENGINEER, RIGHT BEFORE OUR CURRENT WONDERFUL COUNTY ENGINEER, OUR PREVIOUS COUNTY

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ENGINEER TOLD THE -- THIS WAS WAY BEFORE I WAS A COMMISSIONER BUT TOLD THE COMMISSIONER AND THE PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT -- THE NORTH GIRL SCOUT CAMP, THEY TOLD THEM THIS AREA THEY DID NOT HAVE TO PAVE SUNRISE FARMS ROAD BECAUSE IT WON'T BE DEVELOPED.

THERE IS NO NEED TO PAVE THE ROADS, JUST SIX SHORT YEARS AGO, NOTHING HAS CHANGED. THE TOWNHOMES THAT WERE BUILT ACROSS LONG BAY, I WOULD HOPE THEY WOULD BUILD TOWNHOMES BECAUSE MAYBE YOU CAN BUILD THEM AND MAYBE YOU CAN BUILD APARTMENTS BUT THOSE TOWNHOMES SAT FOR A LONG TIME AND I THINK MAYBE NOW THEY HAVE STARTED SELLING BECAUSE I STARTED GETTING COMPLAINTS FROM PEOPLE. NEW RESIDENTS MOVING INTO THEIR COMPLAINTS ABOUT NOT HAVING SERVICES THAT THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN DISTRICT FOUR APPRECIATE CATHOLIC NOT HAVING STREET LIGHTS AND IT'S QUIET AND NOT HAVING THE TRAFFIC AND THAT'S WHY WE LIVE IN THE COUNTRY AND WE HAVE OUR FARMS AND ANIMALS, AND I APPRECIATE MY TWO YOUNG FARMERS WHO CAME IN TONIGHT.

BECAUSE FARMS ARE FOOD AND THE FUTURE OF RURAL CLAY COUNTY IS AGRICULTURE. ANYWAYS, I RESPECT THE PROPOSAL TO LOWER THE DENSITY. I JUST -- I TALKED TO SO MANY OF YOU, MY CONSTITUENTS, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT TONIGHT, LIKE YOU ALWAYS SHOW UP, THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOU SHOWING UP AND LETTING US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

SO I WILL NOT SUPPORT IT BECAUSE A FORMER COMMISSIONER WHO SAT UP HERE, I DID NOT ALWAYS AGREE WITH, BUT HE DID SAY ONE TIME, YOU HAVE WHAT YOU HAVE. I DO BELIEVE IN PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS. I APPRECIATE THE OWNERS COMING AND SAYING THAT THEY HAVE OWNED IT FOR THIS LONG AND I APPRECIATE THE RIGHT THAT YOU HAVE TO OWN YOUR PROPERTY, TO DEVELOP YOUR PROPERTY, NOBODY WANTS TO BE TOLD IF YOU OWN A PIECE OF PROPERTY, NOBODY ELSE WANTS SOMEBODY TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU CAN OR CANNOT DO, WITHIN THE GUARDRAILS OF THE RULES, WHICH IS WHY WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE GUARDRAILS OF DATA CENTERS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY.

THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO WORK ON.

FOR THIS WE DO HAVE SOME. I DON'T LOVE THE BRANAN MASTER PLAN. 2006, WHEN THEY WROTE IT THEY COULDN'T EVEN IMAGINE WHAT 2026 WOULD LOOK LIKE IN CLAY COUNTY, AND THE NUMBER OF CARS. BUT I CANNOT DO MATH WELL BUT THAT'S LIKE WHAT, 350 MORE -- 250 MORE CARS ON THE ROAD IN THAT AREA, JUST ADD A MINIMUM? IF YOU PUT TWO CARS IN A HOME? JUST ALL OF IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE TODAY, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S THE RIGHT TIME TO CHANGE IT.

BY THE WAY, THE PURPLE THAT IS TO THE SOUTH OF SUNRISE FARMS ROAD, IT IS A WORKING FARM. SO, YEAH, IT MAY BE PURPLE, MAYBE ONE DAY IT COULD BE HIGH AGENCY DEVELOPMENT BUT I DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING TODAY. I DON'T KNOW.

A LOT OF THAT THAT IS PURPLE IS NOT -- IT IS FARMS OR VERY RURAL PROPERTIES TODAY, AND I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO DO WHAT THEY HAD TO DO, I JUST CANNOT SUPPORT CHANGING IT TO PUT 120 HOMES, 126 HOMES, WHERE THEY JUST DON'T MATCH.

SO MY MOTION IS TO DENY. >> SECOND THE MOTION?

>> I WANT TO ADDRESS -- WE HAVE REFERRED SOME OF THE PLANNING ZONING BOARD TO REDUCE DENSITY, YET IT HAS THE MINIMUM DENSITY REQUIREMENT. CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? I LOOKED INTO THIS, I THINK IT IS GOOD TO EDUCATE EVERYBODY ABOUT THE MINIMUM DENSITY IN THIS PARCEL.

>> SO WE HAVE A MINIMUM DENSITY REQUIEMENT IN ORDER TO KIND OF SPUR THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS INTENDED FOR THAT DISTRICT. SO THIS COMMERCIAL COMMUNITY CENTER IS THE SECOND HIGHEST MIXED USE DISTRICT THAT WE HAVE IN THE MASTER PLAN, AND IT'S A MINIMUM EIGHT UNITS UP TO 16.

THE ACTIVITY CENTER IS HIGHER THAN THAT, ONE OF THE DISTRICTS -- IT IS JUST A BIT TO THE EAST OF THE SITE, THE ACTIVITY CENTER

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AROUND WHERE THE HOSPITAL AND WALMART IS, HOME DEPOT, THAT INTERSECTION AND THE EXPRESSWAY. THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS INTENDED TO SERVE AS KIND OF A STEP DOWN AWAY FROM THAT HIGHEST COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USE, IT IS STILL COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USE THAT IS ALLOWED. THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IN PLACE IS SO THAT IS THE DENSITY -- IN ORDER TO HAVE COMMERCIAL USES YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL HOUSES IN PLACE OR UNITS. SO YOU NEED TO HAVE ENOUGH RESIDENTIAL TO SUPPORT THAT COMMERCIAL.

AND COMMERCIAL IS MOST APPROPRIATE WHERE WE HAVE THESE TRANSPORTATION ROUTES, WHICH IS WHY ACTIVITY CENTERS VARY ON THE THIS IS INTENDED AS PARTIALLY COMMERCIAL, AND HOMES, APARTMENTS, CONDOS, SOMETHING ALONG THAT LEVEL.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE A MINIMUM, OF WHAT YOU DO IS WATER DOWN THE EXISTING LAND USE AND DENSITY EQUALS VALUE.

IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL PROPERTY VALUE -- IN ORDER TO HAVE A DOWNTOWN, YOU HAVE TO HAVE DENSITY.

SO YOU NEED TO HAVE A MINIMUM TO PREVENT IT FROM BEING WASHED AWAY. IF THAT MAKES SOME SENSE.

>> ONE OF THE FEW TIMES WE HAVE SEEN MINIMUM DENSITY AS -- THE COMMUNITY CENTER, COMMERCIAL, SUPPORTING THE COMMERCIAL PART

[UNCLEAR] >> COMMISSIONER CONDON SAID A LOT OF MY COMMENTS THAT I WAS GOING TO MAKE IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THIS TOO, I LIKE COMMISSIONER CONDON TOTALLY BELIEVE THAT LESS GOVERNMENT IS A GOOD THING IN TERMS OF YOUR PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS, WHEN YOU BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY, YOU DO SO WITH A LAND USE AND ZONING AND YOU HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO BUILD WHAT YOU BOUGHT.

WITH THAT BEING THE CASE, IF THEY WERE TO BUILD TOWNHOMES RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NOTHING THE FIVE OF US CAN DO.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, I FEEL LIKE IF THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD TOWNHOMES THEY WOULD HAVE ALREADY DONE IT. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY PUZZLING TO ME, AND CURRENTLY THE DENSITY ZERO, SO I MET WITH THEM AS WELL AND I SUGGESTED 21 SINGLE ACRE HOUSES.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT MATCHES, THERE ARE AREAS IN MY DISTRICT, DISTRICT ONE, THAT HAS BEAUTIFUL SINGLE ACRE LOTS, AND I HAVE MET SOME HOME BUILDERS THAT WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT IF THEY HAD THE RIGHT PARCELS AND I THINK THAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

WITH THAT BEING SAID I CANNOT SUPPORT IT EITHER.

>> TWO MORE THINGS I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THAT CAME UP THAT WE DID NOT ADDRESS. THE PUBLIC HAS ASKED ABOUT WHY WE DON'T CONSIDER ANOTHER MONETARISM KAKUTA CAME UP A LITTLE BIT AT OUR LAST MEETING REGARDING THIS AS WELL, AND THAT PLAYS INTO MY SECOND STATEMENT I WANTED TO TELL YOU, I THOUGHT ABOUT TONIGHT PROPOSING THAT WE LOOK AT BRINGING IN THE MASTER PLAN BUT WE CAN'T. WE CAN'T LEGALLY.

THE LAW CHANGED, TWO YEARS AGO, TWO SESSIONS AGO, LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS AGO, THERE WAS SOMETHING PASSED CALLED SENATE BILL 180. IT WAS BASICALLY PASSED, ITS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES -- THE BILL WAS ACTUALLY TO HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE IN HURRICANE DAMAGED AREAS REBUILD FASTER, AND NOT TO RUN INTO RED TAPE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT SITUATIONS.

BUT WHAT IT DID WAS IT SAID THAT ANY PLACE THAT WAS IMPACTED BY IN THE LISTED HURRICANE, HELENE, AFRICA -- THERE WAS ONE THAT CAME AFTER IT DURING THE SUMMER -- ANY AREA THAT HAD BEEN IMPACTED IN ANY WAY, THIS BILL APPLIED TO.

IT BASICALLY SAID LOCAL GOVERNMENT COULD NOT MAKE ANY LAND AND ZONING LAND USE CHANGES OR ANY DEVELOPMENT RULES MORE

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STRICT. SO STATE LAW HAS PRECLUDED US FROM MAKING SOME GOOD CHANGES, AND IT PROBABLY MAKES SOME OTHER GOVERNMENTS UNABLE TO MAKE SOME BAD CHANGES.

THAT LAW HAS A SUNSET IN 2028. WHEN YOU CONSIDER WHY ANY THINK ABOUT WHY DOESN'T CLAY COUNTY BBC RECONSIDER SOME OF THESE THINGS, IT'S BECAUSE UNTIL THE END OF 2028 OUR HANDS ARE TIED.

WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO READDRESS SOME OF THESE THINGS, WE BELIEVE IN HOME RULES AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE OF THIS BECAUSE YOU CAN COME OUT AND TALK TO US AND TELL US WHAT YOU WANT AND DON'T WANT. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED TO ADDRESS ALSO IS SOMEBODY SAID SOMETHING I THINK IT WAS STEVE OR SOMEONE, ANOTHER SPEAKER, WAS TALKING ABOUT REALTORS AND WHAT THEY TELL YOU, WE DON'T GET TO CONTROL WHAT REALTORS TELL PEOPLE, AND THEY DO A LOT OF ADVERTISING THAT IS NOT REAL.

SECONDLY, MOST OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HERE WAY BEFORE, OR THEIR FAMILIES OWNED THE PROPERTY, WAY BEFORE THAT WAS IN PLACE. A LOT OF THEM DON'T EVEN KNOW THE LAND USE CHANGE HAPPENED. THEY OWNED A PROPERTY PRIOR TO IT. COMMISSIONER COMPERE, YOU SOMETIMES HAVE CONSTITUENTS WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS ZONING AND LAND USE WAS BEFORE, AND I HAVE THAT A LOT IN MY DISTRICTS.

I THINK THAT -- I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC KNEW IN 2006 THAT THIS AREA WAS ZONED AND COULD HAVE FUTURE LAND USE OF APARTMENTS AND TOWNHOMES, AND THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN AN UPROAR BACK THEN. AND MAYBE THEY WERE, BUT --

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. >> WE DO NEED TO DECLARE

COMMUNICATIONS. >> YEAH, I MET WITH HIM WHEN I

TALKED TO CONSTITUENTS. >> I HAVE TO SAY, I THINK I HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH ISSUES THE WHOLE TIME THAT I HAVE LIVED HERE, BECAUSE I'M FROM THE -- AREA.

AND I HAVE BEGGED STAFF OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO CHANGE THE MASTER PLAN AND UNFORTUNATELY I FIGURED THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THE COUNTY COULD BE SUED. WE WERE STUCK.

SINCE I HAVE BEEN THE COMMISSIONER, THE AMOUNT OF THINGS THAT HAVE COME DOWN IN MY AREA WHERE I LIVE HAVE BEEN THE MOST HEARTBREAKING TO ME, AND PROBABLY THE MOST HEARTBREAKING BECAUSE I CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT IT, AND I WANTED TO BE A COUNTY COMMISSIONER BECAUSE I DO CARE, AND I CAN PROMISE YOU THE REST OF US DO, AND WE DO EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN TO DO THE RIGHT THING. SO RIGHT NOW, ALL OF YOU THAT ARE NOT WANTING THIS TO HAPPEN, YOU WILL BE PRAYING NOW.THE TOWNHOUSES DON'T COME, AND I -- MY MASTER PLAN, AGAIN SAME THING, PEOPLE RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM ME WE HAD NO IDEA APARTMENTS COULD COME IN THE AREA, IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE WE FELT LIKE. BUT THEY CAN.

ALL THE HOMES ARE COMING, AND YOU KNOW, WE WERE STUCK WITH IT.

YOU EITHER DO IT OR YOU MOVE OUT TOWARDS A DIFFERENT AREA AND GET AWAY FROM IT. I HEAR PEOPLE FROM THE NORTH THAT LOVE IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT AS BUSY AS WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

SO YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY AGAIN I WILL NOT VOTE YES ON THIS EI EITHER. MOTION TO SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

>> JUST FIRST, ME AND THE PUBLIC ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE

VOTED TO DENY THE CHANGE. >> IT COULD BE DEVELOPED.

[18. Final Public Hearing to consider adoption of an Ordinance Imposing a Temporary Moratorium on the Acceptance, Review or Approval of Applications for Land Use Amendments to the Clay County 2045 Comprehensive Plan related to Data Center Facilities in unincorporated Clay County (C. Grimm)]

>> ALL RIGHT WE WILL MOVE ON TO NUMBER 18, AND I WILL GO AHEAD AND REMIND EVERYBODY, WE WILL TRY TO MAINTAIN ORDER, WE KNOW EVERYBODY IS PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS, WE ARE PASSIONATE TOO.

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THIS WAS PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR A MORATORIUM.

I JUST WANTED TO READ THE DEFINITION OF A IS -- MORATORIUM -- TEMPORARILY LEGALLY AUTHORIZED SPECIFICATION OF A ACTIVITY OR DELAY FROM PERFORMANCE OF OBLIGATION, TYPICALLY ENACTED BY GOVERNMENT AUTHORITY OR ORGANIZATION TO CALL FOR ONGOING ACTION TO INVOLVED PARTIES CAN ASSESS THE SITUATION, R OR ESTABLISH RESOLUTIONS.

THIS MORATORIUM IS FOR A YEAR, AND IT IS SO STAFF CAN RESEARCH ABOUT THE DATA CENTERS, AND I WILL TELL YOU, THERE HAS BEEN TALK ALREADY ABOUT THIS. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S LEGAL. WE KNOW OTHER COUNTIES HAVE, OUR STAFF WILL BE RESEARCHING THAT TO SEE IF IT CAN HAPPEN.

AGAIN I HAVE A LOT OF CARDS AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING, WE LOVE WHENEVER THE COMMUNITY SHOWS UP, WE REALLY DO.

I WILL ASK YOU WHEN YOU COME UP IF YOU COULD BE SPECIFIC IF YOU ARE AGAINST OR FOR THE MORATORIUM.

WHENEVER YOU COME UP I WILL ASK YOU THAT.

AND AGAIN THIS IS FOR A MORATORIUM, LOOKING TO APPROVE

IT TODAY. >> MADAM CHAIR CAN I ADD ONE THING, THIS INITIATIVE THIS MORATORIUM WAS INITIATED BY THIS COMMISSIONER. YOU CAN TELL WHERE WE ARE HEADING. JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS DIDN'T COME FROM OUTSIDE CAGDAS CAME FROM THE FIVE OF US UP HERE.

>> I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND I HAVE PAT JORDAN'S AND I BELIEVE AT FIRST.

AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY WHAT PAT IS COMING UP YOU ALSO -- THERE IS AN AREA YOU CAN WAIT IF YOU DECIDE SOMEBODY ALREADY SAID THE SAME THING AS YOU YOU CAN LET US KNOW THAT CAN I JUST SAY IF YOU ARE FOR OR AGAINST THE MORATORIUM ARE YOU AGAINST THE

MORATORIUM? >> NO HONEY I AM FOR THE MORATORIUM. I THINK THAT IS WONDERFUL.

I AM PAT JORDAN'S AND, I LIVE AT 3445 JAMES COURT, THUNDER ROAD AREA. SO MISS BURKE YOU ARE MY COMMISSIONER AND I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD VOTE YES FOR THIS.

I WANT TO MAYBE JUST GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION.

I WORK WITH YOUNG KIDS, AND THEY ARE DOING A PODCAST CALLED

CLAY COUNTY. >> SASHA: .

AND WE DID A PODCAST EPISODE ON THESE AI FARMS OR CENTERS.

AND IT WAS REALLY INFORMATIONAL. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LOOK AT IT, YOU CAN GO TO YOUTUBE, CLAY COUNTY.

>> SASHA: , EPISODE 19. IT WILL GIVE YOU A LOT OF INFORMATION. WE HAD JOSHUA ALLEN WHO IS A REPORTER FOR CLAY NEWS, AND WE HAD OUR YOUNG DEMOCRATS WHO SPENT A LOT OF TIME RESEARCHING THIS AND CAME UP WITH A REALLY GOOD EPISODE. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU SEE THAT. BUT I WOULD ASK THAT AFTER YOUR 12 MINUTES TO PLEASE COME BACK TO US, YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAD FOUND AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HOPE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO AGREE WITH IT AND NOT HAVE THESE FARMS OUT HERE.

WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH WATER. WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH HEAT.

WE DON'T WANT TO IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENT, CLAY COUNTY IS VERY SPECIAL TO US. WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD MY TIME,

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, WE WILL BE COMING BACK WITH STAFF RESEARCH. THANK YOU.

NEXT IS MARY JO GRIFFIN, AND I HAVE THAT YOU ARE FOR THE

MORATORIUM. >> MY ADDRESS IS ON RECORD.

AND I SPOKE LAST TIME ALSO FOR THE MORATORIUM AND SINCE THEN I HAVE DONE SOME MORE RESEARCH AND I JUST -- WHAT REALLY BROUGHT ME TO SUPPORT THIS MORATORIUM IS LESS CONVERSATION WE HAD ABOUT THE LAND USE IN THIS COUNTY, HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS TO BUILD GOOD CONSERVATIVES OF OUR LAND

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BECAUSE ONCE IT IS GONE IT WILL NEVER COME BACK.

IT IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS EVERYBODY LOVES ABOUT THIS REGION, ITS BEAUTY, RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, WHAT A GOOD PLACE IT IS TO LIVE. AND THERE'S GOT TO BE OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN INCREASE OUR REVENUE WITHOUT DESTROYING OUR LAND.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

NEXT I HAVE DAVID. HE WAS FOR.

AND NEXT WE HAVE BRUCE REYNOLDS. >> I AM FOR THE MORATORIUM.

I ALSO WANT YOU TO LOOK INTO BANNING THESE DATA CENTERS.

THERE IS WALTON COUNTY HAS BANNED DATA CENTERS, AND I ALSO THINK THE DATA CENTERS ARE TIED TO THESE SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE WHICH IS WHY YOU NEED THE DATA CENTERS SO YOU CAN STORE OUR INFORMATION AND EVERYTHING AND I DON'T REMEMBER AGREEING TO BEING FOLLOWED BY CAMERAS ALL AROUND TOWN OR BEING TRACKED OR TRACED OR WHATEVER YOU GOT GOING ON. I THINK IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL BY THE FOURTH AMENDMENT, AND THERE'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS, THE FLOCK CAMERAS, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE ARE IN DEBT, HOW MUCH THE FLOCK CAMERAS, $305,000 PER CAMERA FOR THE YEAR SO YOU GUYS CAN ESSENTIALLY SPY ON EVERYBODY

WITHOUT OUR CONSENT. >> IS THIS ABOUT THE MONITORING? CAN YOU MAKE THIS IS ABOUT THE MORATORIUM YOU HAVE TO STORE THE DATA SOMEWHERE THAT'S WHERE THE DATA CENTERS ARE FOR.

I'M TRYING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

WE ARE CONCERNED CONSTITUENTS, AND WE HAVE A LOT MORE TO SAY.

AND I THINK A LOT OF THE DATA CENTERS HAVE PROBABLY CHINESE SOFTWARE IN THEM, SO YOU SHOULD LOOK AT THE 2024 NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT, THAT THEY DON'T WANT CHINESE PARTS BEING USED IN ANY OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT. I THINK WE HAVE TO BAN THESE THINGS. I GOT A LOT TO SAY BUT...

I WILL LEAVE THAT WITH MY TIME FOR NOW, THANK YOU.

>> THANKS. SEAN DAVIS NEXT? YOU MAY COLO AGAIN, MY NAME IS SEAN DAVIS.

I'M A RETIRED ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION SPECIALIST.

I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ON TWO DATA CENTER TOPICS, FIRST CLOSED LOOP COOLING SYSTEMS CLOSED LOOP DOES NOT MEAN NO WATER USE.

IT MEANS WATER CIRCULATION INTERNALLY, NOT INTENTIONALLY EVAPORATED COOLING. THE REALITY IS THE HOT HUMID AREAS LIKE OURS, THOSE CLOSED LOOP SYSTEMS CANNOT KEEP UP.

SO CALLED CLOSED LOOP SYSTEMS OFTEN USE HYBRID ASSISTANCE THAT REQUIRES MORE WATER BUT EVEN THE BEST CLOSED LOOP SYSTEMS LOSE WATER FOR MAINTENANCE, LEAKS AND THEY RELY ON SEPARATE HEAT PRODUCTION SYSTEMS THAT USE WATER ELSEWHERE.

SO THE RADIATOR ANALOGY DOES NOT HOLD UP SCIENTIFIC SCRUTINY.

AND WHILE THE CLOSED LOOP SYSTEMS AND HYBRID SYSTEMS DO USE LESS WATER, THE TRADE OFF IS THEY REQUIRE MORE ENERGY TO OPERATE. DATA CENTERS ALREADY CONSUME HUGE AMOUNTS OF ENERGY AND CLOSED LOOP SYSTEMS ADD TO THAT DEMAND. SECOND POINT, DATA CENTERS GENERATED THEIR OWN POWER? A FEW DATA CENTERS DO GENERATE THEIR OWN POWER BECAUSE WHERE THEY BUILD, A RIG COULD NOT SUPPORT THEM SO THEY INSTALL LARGE NUMBERS OF NATURAL GAS AND DIESEL GENERATORS, BUT THERE ARE DOWNSIDES.

ONSITE POWER PLANTS PRODUCE AIR EMISSIONS INCLUDING NITROGEN OXIDE, CARBON DIOXIDE AND MAJOR GREENHOUSE GAS, AND AIRBORNE PARTICLES SMALLER THAN 2.5 MICROMETERS, SMALL ENOUGH TO PENETRATE DEEP INTO THE LUNGS AND EVEN INTO OUR BLOODSTREAM.

THESE ARE EMISSIONS THAT REQUIRE CLEAN AIR ACT PERMITS AND INSPECTIONS, FP ALREADY STRUGGLES TO KEEP UP ENFORCEMENT. THESE HUGE GENERATORS ARE EXTREMELY LOUD AND CAN PRODUCE ENOUGH HEAT TO RAISE AMBIENT TEMPERATURES AROUND THE PLANTS AS MUCH AS TWO TO 3 DEGREES.

THESE POWER PLANTS NEED A MAJOR GAS -- NATURAL GAS PIPELINES ON SITE THROUGH STORAGE TANKS, CAPACITY UPWARDS OF HALF A MILLION GALLONS. MILLIONS OF GALLONS FOR HYPERSCALE DATA CENTER. HIGH TECH OUTFITS LIKE GOOGLE, AMAZON, MICROSOFT SELL THEMSELVES AS ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY GOOD NEIGHBORS WHO CREATE JOBS AND GENERATE TAX REVENUE WITH NO DOWNSIDE. THERE ARE DOWNSIDES.

TRYING TO SEPARATE INDUSTRY PROPAGANDA FROM PRUDENT SCIENCE

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IS HARD TO DO. SO GIVE YOURSELF TIME TO LEARN.

LOOK AT STUDIES ALREADY DONE AT UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA, OAK RIDGE, BERKELEY NATIONAL LAB, CORNELL UNIVERSITY, THEY ARE OUT THERE. BY GETTING THIS ALL FORMATION IT TAKES TIME. PLEASE GIVE YOURSELF TIME, PLEASE VOTE YES FOR THE MORATORIUM.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

SHAWN DAVIS, AND THEN WE HAVE TROY?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS SEAN DAVIS, 20 I'M A 20 YEAR NAVY VETERAN, A RETIRED 20 YEARS AGO, DABBLED IN CIVIL ENGINEERING WHERE MY RIG ACTUALLY WAS.

I WANTED TO SPEAK TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THE MORATORIUM.

I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE THAT PASSED PLEASE.

AS WELL AS I HOPE THAT THIS WOULD COVER ANY PENDING THAT

MIGHT BE IN THE WORKS -- >> THERE IS NOTHING PENDING.

>> THE YEAR GOING FORWARD THEN, LET'S JUST TAKE OUR TIME, LET'S LOOK AT THINGS AND MAKE SURE WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND RESEARCH, THAT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO ACCEPT INTO OUR COMMUNITY IS NOT GOING TO HURT THE RESIDENTS. I WANT US TO BE GOOD STEWARDS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR OUR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO COME.

I BELIEVE THAT A MORE IMPACT STUDIES SHOULD BE MADE, STRONG REQUIREMENTS ENACTED PRIOR TO ALLOWING ANY DEVELOPMENT OF SUCH A FACILITY THAT WOULD GREATLY IMPACT THE FINANCIAL WELL-BEING OF OUR RESIDENTS, SPECIFICALLY I WOULD LIKE TO INSIST UPON ANY INFRASTRUCTURE BE IT ELECTRICAL, WATER RELATED, ADDITIONAL FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES THAT COULD BE IMPACTED, HAVE TO BE 100% FULLY FUNDED AND SUPPORTED FOR THE DURATION OF THE OPERATION OF THE DEVELOPER THAT COMES IN TO PUT THESE FACILITIES IN PLACE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS GOING TO BE BURDENS WITH ALL THE COSTS OF IT DOESN'T TRANSFER ONTO US AS BEST POSSIBLE.

FURTHER NOTE I WOULD LIKE ANY AND ALL POWER REQUIREMENTS TO BE SELF GENERATED, THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE, JUST SPOKE THAT WAS EYE OPENING FOR ME I DID NOT REALIZE THE SELF CONTAINED WATER AND GENERATING HAD SUCH INTENSE REQUIREMENTS FOR LARGE SCALE CENTERS. THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED INTO.

THIS ONE YEAR, I CANNOT EXPRESS THE HOPE THIS ONE YEAR MORATORIUM PASSES THAT WE CAN PUT THE TIME INTO PROPERLY STUDY AND ANALYZE THIS SO WE ARE NOT MAKING ANY SNAP KNEE JERK REACTIONS CALCULATE AND AVOID SOMETHING IN AND THEN KICK IT DOWN THE ROAD. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE THAT.

I AM NOT AGAINST BIG TECH, I'M NOT AGAINST THAT SORT OF THING, I REALIZE -- I'M 47 YEARS OLD, I KIND OF GREW UP IN THAT TRANSITION COMING THROUGH, I HAVE GROWN ALONGSIDE TECHNOLOGY AND I SEE WHERE IT CAN GO BUT I'M HESITANT ABOUT AI KAGO BUT TRYING TO KEEP THAT OUT OF IT. I STILL THINK THERE'S LOTS OF PROMISING ROADS, BUT WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THINGS AND QUICK JUDGMENTS THAT WOULD PUT US IN JEOPARDY, WE JUST DON'T KNOW.

THE FIRST PRESENTATION WE HAVE, THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT IN TERMS OF STORMWATER DRAINAGE, PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT FLOODING, PUTTING IN MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF CONCRETE, FLAT SURFACES, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE DIRECT WATER AND ALL THAT BUT WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR THAT RUNOFF. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE WILL WILLIAMS.

>> HOW Y'ALL DOING. ADDRESS IS ON FILE.

I AM 27, I'M A FIVE YEAR NAVY VET, I GREW UP IN JACKSONVILLE AND HAVE BEEN IN THE MARINE CORPS FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS NOW.

THREE, FOUR YEARS. I AM FOR THE MONITORING, AGAINST DATA CENTERS. I DON'T THINK BIG TECH BELONGS HERE PERSONALLY. I WANT TO START OFF WITH A QUOTE FROM COMMISSIONER COMPERE, SHE SAID I HAVE A PROBLEM GOING TO THE NEWS STATIONS -- I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THEM COMING INTO THE COUNTY.

THIS IS THE CONVERSATION. I THINK WE HAVE A RIGHT TO BE A PART OF IT, AND OUR WORDS SHOULD NOT FALL ON DEAF EARS.

KEEP THAT IN MIND. SECONDLY, SHE ALSO STATED THAT AMAZON AND GOOGLE COULD BE GREAT NEIGHBORS.

WE HAVE BEEN YOUR NEIGHBORS FOR A LOT LONGER, AND I THINK OUR WORDS SHOULD CARRY MORE WEIGHT THAN ANY COMPANY THAT COMES IN, WHETHER IT BE THROUGH DONATIONS TO YOUR CAMPAIGN OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT FLORIDA COUNTY, 12 OF THEM HAVE

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EITHER PAUSED OR STOPPED DATA CENTERS IN THEIR TRACKS COMPLETELY. THAT SEEMS TO BE AN ONGOING TREND FOR THE ENTIRE STATE. SO GREEN COVE AS YOU SEE IS A BIG TURNOUT FOR YOU GUYS, USUALLY YOU DON'T GET AS MANY PEOPLE HERE, BUT WE ARE NOT A BIG FAN OF.

EVERYBODY I TALKED TO, NOBODY LIKES THESE DATA CENTERS.

EVERYBODY I HAVE TALKED TO, NOTHING GOOD COMES FROM AI.

SO I MEAN, ONE THING TAKE SOME GUY NAMED ROBERT DYLAN IS ACTUALLY STILL IN JACKSONVILLE BEACH AT THE MOMENT FOR FALSELY BEING ARRESTED, FOR POLICING AI TOOLS.

THIS IS ONE OF THE MANY THINGS THAT AI HAS TO OFFER.

DATA CENTERS I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS DATA TO BE COLLECTED AND SOLD TO WHOEVER, THAT'S WHAT THIS WILL BE FOR.

OUR DATA IS COLLECTED THROUGH FLOCK CAMERAS AND OTHER TOOLS.

I WANT TO END OFF SAYING, KEEP THE FREE STATE OF FLORIDA FREE AND KEEP GREEN COVE GREEN, NO DATA CENTERS AND I'M FOR THE

MORATORIUM. >> WE HAVE MARTHA GARCIA.

>> I APPRECIATE THE WORK CONSIDERING THIS.

WILL WILLIAMS, ADDRESS ON FILE. I'M NOT ANTI-TECHNOLOGY I'M NOT ANTIFUTURE AND GROWING AND THINGS BUT I THINK ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS THE ECONOMIC DEFICITS FACING IN OUR COUNTY.

THE FUTURE STATE INITIATIVES WE WILL BE VOTING ON, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR OUR BUDGET YEAR. THAT ELECTRICIAN WHO CAME IN HERE, AT THE PARCEL REZONE OR WHATEVER, HE IS GOING TO GENERATE MORE JOBS THAN ANY SINGLE DATA CENTER WILL GENERATE. WE NEED EMPLOYERS LIKE THAT IN OUR COUNTY TO HELP WITH OUR UNEMPLOYMENT RATES AND HELP SUSTAINABILITY. AI HAS A LOT OF CHALLENGES.

I KNOW A TEACHER DOING HER CONTINUING EDUCATION CREDITS, SHE'S TYPING INTO HER AI AND FILLING THAT OUT.

THESE THINGS HAVE A REAL IMPACT, THEY ARE NOT MORALLY NEUTRAL TECHNOLOGIES. WE HAVE TO HAVE GUARDRAILS, WE SHOULDN'T JUST ROLL STUFF LIKE THIS OUT IN OUR COMMUNITY WITHOUT CRITICALLY THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARE THE ESTABLISHMENTS ALLOWING THEIR COMMUNITY AND HOW ARE THEY IMPACTING OUR LIVES, CHILDREN, SCHOOLS, OVERALL INFRASTRUCTURE.

LIKE A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE SAID -- I SAW A STUDY FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN THAT SAID THE SAME THING ABOUT THE CLOSED LOOP SYSTEM THAT THEY REQUIRE A LOT MORE POWER, THAT THEY AREN'T AS CLOSED LOOPS AS THEY SOUND, IT APPLIES TO THE WATER AND DOESN'T EVEN MEAN CLOSED LOOP IN THE WAY THAT 90S GENERATION, WHAT A CLOSED LOOP MEANS. A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS REALLY MARKETING. I THINK THAT THOSE DEVELOPERS PICKED A BAD NIGHT TO COME OUT HERE ESPECIALLY WITH THE WETLANDS. [LAUGHTER] BUT I THINK THAT'S THE OVERALL TENURE OF OUR COUNTY.

WE ALL VOTED ON THAT REFERENDUM TO INVEST IN OUR CONSERVATION LAND TO KEEP GREEN COVE GREEN, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND IF WE CONTINUE TO ALLOW THIS URBAN SPRAWL THAT LOOKS LIKE DATA CENTERS ARE COMING TO OUR COUNTIES, THOSE ARE GOING TO HAVE REAL IMPACTS. I THINK I HAVE SAID ALL I WANTED TO SAY, I'M GLAD THAT YOU ALL TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO BRING THIS FORWARD, FOR JACKSON COUNTY, I HOPE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BAN. THAT WENT THROUGH THE MORATORIUM FIRST AND THEN A MONTH LATER THERE WAS A BAN.

I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN JULY, HOPEFULLY THAT BAN COMES

UP. >> THANK YOU.

GARCIA AND THEN MEGAN? MARTHA YOU ARE AGAINST?

>> CORRECT, AS WRITTEN. MY NAME IS MARISSA GARCIA, ADDRESS ON FILE. MANY PEOPLE HAVE THE IMPRESSION THAT ALL DATA CENTERS POLLUTE, SUCK UP ALL THE WATER AND POWER AND MAKE TERRIBLE NOISE. INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE MISINFORMED.

JACKSONVILLE HAS 14 DATA CENTERS.

THESE HAVE NOT CAUSED SPIKES IN WATER DEMAND ACCORDING TO THE SAINT JOHNS WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, THEY HAVE NOT STRAINED THE POWER GRID ACCORDING TO JPA, THEY HAVE NOT CAUSED THE NOISE CRISIS YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD IS UNAVOIDABLE.

JACKSONVILLE'S DATA CENTERS COEXIST WITH THEIR COMMUNITY.

THEIR EXISTENCE PROVES THAT DATA CENTERS CAN BE GOOD NEIGHBORS SOME PEOPLE SAY THEY DON'T USE DATA CENTERS THEY DON'T NEED DATA CENTERS, YES, THEY DO. IF YOU GET MARRIED HAVE A BABY GET DIVORCED OR DIE CAN YOU USE A DATA CENTER.

IF YOU DRIVE A CAR, SEND YOUR KIDS TO SCHOOL, OR RECEIVE MEDICAL CARE, YOU USE A DATA CENTER.

IF YOU HAVE MONEY IN VYSTAR, DO YOU WANT THEM TO BACK UP YOUR RECORDS IN THE DATA CENTER? I DO, I THINK YOU DO TOO.

ALL OF US NEED AND USE DATA CENTERS EVERY DAY, WE JUST WANT THEM BUILT IN SOMEBODY ELSE'S COUNTY.

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THE PEOPLE IN THE OTHER COUNTY DON'T WANT THEM BUILT THERE, THEY WANT THEM BUILT IN OUR COUNTY.

TAKE IT TO AN EXTREME AND THERE WILL BE NO COUNTY IN FLORIDA WHERE WE CAN STORE OUR VITAL RECORDS.

WE MUST ALL DO OUR PART TO, WE MUST BE REASONABLE.

YOU DON'T WANT DATA CENTERS IN CLAY COUNTY? WELL I BELIEVE YOU ALREADY HAVE FOUR DATA CENTERS IN CLAY COUNTY. YOU NEVER HEARD OF THEM BECAUSE THEY DON'T CAUSE ANY PROBLEMS. THE HOUSE, THE PLOT MAP, THE MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE AND OTHER COURT RECORDS ARE STORED IN A DATA CENTER INSIDE OF THE CLAY COUNTY COURTHOUSE RIGHT NEXT DOOR. THE OTHER THREE DATA CENTERS ARE INSIDE EACH OF OUR THREE HOSPITALS.

THESE STORE YOUR ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS AND MANAGE CLINICAL AND OPERATIONAL NEEDS. THE HOSPITALS CANNOT FUNCTION WITHOUT THESE ON SITE DATA CENTERS BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY CALL LOW LATENCY. MANY PEOPLE ARE FRIGHTENED BY THE STORIES THEY HEARD ABOUT HYPER SCALE DATA CENTERS.

HYPERSCALERS, MANY OF THEM CAN BE SOLVED.

OUR COUNTY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REQUIRE CLOSED LOOP SYSTEMS, THEY ARE NOT PERFECT BUT EVERY BUSINESS USES WATER.

HOSPITALS USE A LOT OF WATER. HOSPITALS MAKE MORE HAZARDOUS MATERIAL THAN DATA CENTERS, USUALLY BIOHAZARDS.

WE CAN REQUIRE CLEAN SYSTEMS AND WE HAVE MORE GREEN BELT NOW THAN WE DID BEFORE. WE CAN REQUIRE NOISE.

[INAUDIBLE] WHEN NEEDED AND ZONING TO ALLOW US TO ACCEPT SOME DATA CENTERS IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT BENEFIT OUR COUNTY. WE CAN DO THIS.

THE MORATORIUM STATES THAT THE STAFF SHALL STUDY DATA CENTERS AND REPORT FINDINGS, I HOPE THIS CAN BE DONE WITH A CAN DO ATTITUDE AND NOT TO MAKE THIS MORATORIUM A BAN AND MORATORIUM CLOTHING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE MORATORIUM AMENDED TO ALLOW THE TYPES OF IN-HOUSE DATA CENTERS LIKE THE ONE IN OUR COURTHOUSE AND HOSPITAL, CURRENTLY THE MORATORIUM ALSO PUTS A MORATORIUM ON THEM THAT MEANS ANY BUSINESS THAT REQUIRES AN IN-HOUSE DATA CENTER CANNOT BE PERMITTED FOR 12 MONTHS AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU. ANDY?

>> MY NAME IS MEGAN DORSEY. AI DATA CENTERS ARE NOT THE ONES WE HAVE NOW. WHAT DATA CENTERS ACTUALLY DO TO PLACES WE LIVE, WE ARE TOLD THEY CAN BE GREAT PARTNERS, WE DON'T WANT TO BE LEFT BEHIND, OUR DATA HAD TO BE STORED IN CHINA ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BEING SIGNED WITH LOCAL OFFICIALS AND THESE PROJECTS ARE GETTING PUSHED THROUGH.

WHAT WE ARE NOT BEING TOLD THE DATA CENTERS, THE AIR AROUND THE DATA CENTER IS NOT THE SAME AS THE AIR WE GREW UP BREATHING.

IT REQUIRES DIESEL BACKUP GENERATORS BY THE DOZENS, SOMETIMES HUNDREDS OF THEM AND NOISE GENERATORS RELEASE PARTICLE MATTER AND NITROGEN OXIDE LIKE THE GENTLEMAN TALKED ABOUT DIRECTLY LINKED TO ASTHMA, HEART DISEASE AND RESPIRATORY ILLNESS. WE ARE TALKING 200-600 TIMES MORE NITROGEN OXIDE THAN A NATURAL GAS PLANT PRODUCES.

THESE ARE ALSO -- I KNOW WHERE MY SOURCES ARE COMING FROM.

THE AI FACILITY IN MEMPHIS, AN INVESTIGATION FOUND THE NITROGEN DIOXIDE LEVELS IN SURROUNDING AREAS MEASURABLY INCREASED AFTER THE FACILITY OPENED, THE NOISE NEVER STOPS.

THE INTERNAL NOISE LEVELS CAN REACH UP TO 96 DECIBELS, WELL ABOVE THE 85 DECIMAL THRESHOLD CONSIDERED HARMFUL TO HUMAN HEARING. NEIGHBORS NEAR THE FACILITY RECORDED 90 DECIBELS OUT OF THEIR HOMES, ONE RESIDENT SAID HE CAN NO LONGER OPEN HIS WINDOWS, ANOTHER PUT MATTRESSES AGAINST THE GLASS TO BLOCK IT OUT.

IT RUNS ALL NIGHT DISRUPTING THE CIRCADIAN RHYTHM OF THE BODY INCLUDING SLEEP CYCLES. SLEEP DISRUPTION CHRONIC STRESS AND HEARING LOSS ARE NOT HYPOTHETICALS, THEY ARE DOCUMENTED OUTCOMES IN COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE SAID YES BEFORE THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT THEY WERE SAYING YES TO.

WITHIN A MILE THE LAND CHANGES THE AVERAGE DATA CENTER SITE IN 2024 WAS 144% LARGER THAN IN 2022, THESE ARE BIGGER.

A MID-SIZED DATA CENTER USES ROUGHLY 300,000 GALLONS OF WATER PER DAY, BETWEEN 80 AND 90% OF THAT COMES FROM THE SAFE SURFACE WATER AND GROUNDWATER SURFACE OUR TAP WATER COMES FROM, MOST EVAPORATES IN THE COOLING TOWERS AND NEVER RETURNS.

RESEARCHERS DESCRIBED DATA CENTERS AS POTENTIAL DANGER ZONES, PLACES WHERE LIGHT AND NOISE LEVELS EXCEEDED THE THRESHOLD AT WHICH SPECIES CAN LIVE AND THRIVE.

ANIMAL COMMUNICATION BREAKS DOWN, MIGRATION PATTERNS SHIFT.

THE WATER TABLE DOESN'T STOP AT THE PROPERTY LINE, HEAVY

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GROUNDWATER USE IN WAYS THAT THREATEN ECOSYSTEMS AND LONGER TERM WATER AVAILABILITY FOR ENTIRE SURROUNDING REGION, NOT JUST IMMEDIATE. THE POWER PLANTS AND THE FACILITIES POLLUTE FAR MORE BEYOND THE DATA CENTER ITSELF, DATA CENTERS INCREASINGLY RELY ON LARGE SCALE PLANS THAT ARE NOW BEING LOCATED NEARBY TO AVOID GRID OPERATION WASTE.

WHATEVER THAT PLANT BURNS, THE AIRSHED ABSORBS.

SEPTEMBER 2025 STUDY FOUND THAT AIR POLLUTANTS FROM DATA CENTERS OPERATING INCREASED THE RATES OF RESPIRATORY AND CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE, AND ELEVATED CANCER RISKS IN NEARBY COMMUNITIES.

THE RESEARCHERS HERE AND THE DAMAGE IS REAL, WE NEED A MORATORIUM NOW, WE DESERVE TO KNOW WHAT IS BEING BUILT NEXT TO OUR WATER AND AIR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> THANK YOU. I STILL HAVE LISA, WAITING TO BE IN SUPPORT OF THE MORATORIUM. STEPHEN ALSO WAITING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE MORATORIUM AND AMBER CROSBY WAITING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE MORATORIUM. NEXT I HAVE LAURA TIMMONS, AND THEN NEXT WE WILL HAVE -- MA MARCEL.

NO LAURA TIMMONS? NEXT I HAVE... NEXT WILL BE

CAMERON? >> HELLO.

GOOD EVENING COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

I WAS UPSET THAT THE LAST MEETING WHERE LOTS OF MY FELLOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS SHARED VERY SERIOUS CONCERNS ON EVEN THE POSSIBILITY OF AN AI DATA CENTER WELCOME TO OUR COUNTY.

NOT ONLY DO THESE CONCERNS BRING UP OUR ECOSYSTEM BUT ALSO BROUGHT UP THE COMMUNITY WE HAVE HERE, THE DECISIONS THAT YOU GUYS HOLD TONIGHT WON'T JUST AFFECT THIS POINT IN TIME CALCULABLE EFFECT THE ENTIRE WAY ME AND MY GENERATION ARE BEING FORCED TO LIVE. MY IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE ONE LIVING IN A CRIPPLING ENVIRONMENT, A DYING WORKFORCE AND INABILITY TO SOLVE SIMPLE PROBLEMS WITHOUT OPENING CHATGPT FOR A BETTER WAY TO DO THINGS.

NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT THE WORKFORCE.

AI IS ACTUALLY TAKING OVER HUNDREDS OF TECH JOBS, DUE TO THEM BEING MORE PRODUCTIVE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

IT WORKS 24-HOUR SHIFTS WITHOUT NEED FOR BREAKS, IT DOESN'T NEED ANY SORT OF PAY AND IT CAN NEVER COMPLAIN ABOUT IT BEING TREATED LIKE ANY HUMAN COULD. AI DATA CENTERS, USUALLY THEY WOULD HIRE AROUND 100 WORKERS TO CONSTRUCT THIS BOX THAT WOULD DISRUPT OUR ECOSYSTEM, BUT ONCE IT IS BUILT, IT WOULD ONLY HAVE 20--25 FULL TIME WORKERS, WHICH I HIGHLY DOUBT WOULD BOOST OUR UNEMPLOYMENT RATE. THE HEART OF IT ALL, MANY ISSUES SURROUNDING THIS ONCE AGAIN IS MONEY.

MONEY THAT THE COUNTY CENTER -- SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS HERE TWO WEEKS AGO, GOOGLE AND AMAZON HAVE BEEN NAMED AS GOOD PARTNERS TO HAVE.

I WON'T SPEND MUCH TIME ON THIS BUT I SERIOUSLY RECOMMEND LOOKING DEEPLY INTO SOME OF AMAZON'S PRACTICES ON TAX AVOIDANCE, HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES, WORKERS RIGHTS, CHILDREN'S PRIVACY VIOLATIONS AND THE ANIMAL WELFARE LAWS AS WELL AS A CASE, DEI WILLIAMS VERSUS AMAZON.COM.

AS WELL AS WHAT THESE AI DATA CENTERS ARE BEING USED FOR.

AN ARTICLE I RECOMMEND EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM TONIGHT TO READ IS TO PROTECT YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILIES, IN AN AGE OF AI ENABLING DISINFORMATION BY THE PARLIAMENT RESEARCH SERVICE.

BEFORE YOU GO AND GIVE OUR LAND TO THESE CORPORATIONS THAT HAVE NO REGARD TO PROTECTING THE WORKING CLASS, OR OUR ENVIRONMENT, JUST FOR THE PROMISE OF MORE MONEY FOR THE COUNTY, MAKING JOBS THAT WILL ACTUALLY HELP OUR COMMUNITY, LIKE RECREATIONAL SPORTS CENTERS TO HELP PEOPLE CONNECT.

OR SKATE PARKS FOR PEOPLE TO PUT DOWN THE PHONE AND PICK UP A HOBBY. AFTER ALL, I'M LIVING WITH THE REPERCUSSIONS OF YOUR DECISIONS HERE TONIGHT.

YOU CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. SAY YES TO THIS MORATORIUM, AND NOT GIVE OUR COUNTY TO THESE COMPANIES.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

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CAMERON MAY AND THEN TRACY DANIELS.

>> HELLO COMMISSIONERS, I DIDN'T REALLY COME PREPARED TO SPEAK.

I JUST KIND OF WROTE SOMETHING ON MY PHONE.

I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN CLAY COUNTY.

IT WAS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE TO SPEAK ABOUT.

I WANT TO START OFF THE QUESTION, I DON'T EXPECT AN ANSWER, HOW CLOSE WOULD YOU LIKE A DATA CENTER BE BUILT TO YOUR HOUSE? 500 FEET, HALF A MILE? ALL THOSE DISTANCES, WHY? IS IT BECAUSE YOU KNOW ABOUT THE LIGHT POLLUTION, THE NOISE POLLUTION CAUSING CIRCADIAN RHYTHM DISTURBANCES, HEADACHES. THAT COULD LEAD TO ALL SORTS OF ISSUES. IS THAT A REASON? SEVERAL DEGREES WITHIN A SEVERAL MILE RADIUS, IS THAT A REASON TO SAY NO? THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS WHY I THINK EACH OF YOU WOULD SAY NO TO A DATA CENTER IN YOUR BACKYARD AND I WOULD ASSUME ONE OF THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS WOULD NOT WANT A DATA CENTER IN HER BACKYARD EITHER.

IF THE ANSWER IS NO, GIVEN EVERYTHING GOING ON, THEN WHY WOULD YOU SUBJECT SOME OF YOUR OWN CONSTITUENTS TO THAT SAME FATE AND INCORPORATED INTO CLAY COUNTY? MIDDLEBURG, THERE ARE PEOPLE TOO, THEY HAVE THE SAME NEEDS AS YOU AND I, THEY MAY NOT LIVE IN A CITY BUT THEY WOULD STILL BE DISTURBED BY NOISE POLLUTION LIGHT POLLUTION, THEY'RE NOT SECOND CLASS RESIDENTS, THEY HAVE THE SAME NEEDS AS ALL OF US SO I WANT YOU TO REALIZE THAT. I WANT EVERYBODY IN HERE WHO MIGHT NOT BE OPPOSED TO THE MONITORING, I WANT TO ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO HAVE A DATA CENTER WITHIN 500 FEET OR 2 MILES? IF THE ANSWER IS KNOW YOU DON'T WANT IT FOR YOURSELF WHY WOULD YOU SUBJECT THESE DATA CENTERS TO PEOPLE IN RURAL CLAY COUNTY LIKE THE MATTER LESS TO YOU? WE ALL HAVE THE SAME NEEDS AND WOULD BE IMPACTED, DON'T PUSH US OFF TO SOMEONE ELSE JUST BECAUSE IT MAY NOT IMPACT YOU.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, TRACY DANIEL AND THE NEXT SPEAKER, ARE YOU FOR OR AGAINST THE MORATORIUM?

>> I AM FOR THE MORATORIUM. TRACY DANIEL.

>> PULL THE MICROPHONE DOWN PLEASE SO WE CAN HEAR YOU.

>> I AM FOR THE MORATORIUM -- >> A LITTLE BIT MORE, SORRY.

>> OKAY, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE MADE SOME GREAT POINTS.

MINE IN THE SUMMARY, BUT I WILL DO IT ANYWAY.

SPECKING ELECTRIC BILLS, THE GRID STRAIN, DEPLETION OF LOCAL WATER SUPPLY. BUT THE MAIN THING IS, UNKNOWN CONSEQUENCES TO THE PUBLIC. I THINK WE ARE ALL AWARE AND SENSITIVE TO THAT, THE MORATORIUM, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW. THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> THANK YOU. WE WILL GO TO SPEAKER BAILEY.

FOR THE MORATORIUM? OKAY.

BRUCE MCKINNEY? FOR OR AGAINST?

>> I AM FOR THE MORATORIUM. AND HOPEFULLY EVENTUALLY FOR A

BAN. >> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

NEXT IS REBECCA MARK. >> SORRY TO BOTHER YOU ALL

AGAIN. >> NO BOTHER AT ALL.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JUST REALLY QUICK OUT THE GATE,

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THIS QUOTE, THE PROJECT, ONE OF THE FORERUNNING COMPANIES COMING UP ADVOCATING FOR THIS AI HYPER CENTER DEVELOPMENT.

WHEN APPROACHED WITH A QUESTION ABOUT THE NATURAL RESOURCES HE SAID IT BEST HIMSELF, AND I FEEL LIKE WHAT HE SAID KIND OF SUMS UP THE ENTIRE ATTITUDE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT HAD THIS TECHNOLOGY AND THESE COMPANIES REALLY FEEL IN THEIR HEARTS.

THIS IS A QUOTE FROM HIM. BIOLOGICAL LIMITS ARE REAL, BUT DIGITAL POTENTIAL IS INFINITE. IF WE STARVE OUR DATA INFRASTRUCTURE OF COOLING RESOURCES JUST TO SUSTAIN BASELINE HUMAN COMFORT, WE ARE DELAYING THE BIRTH OF SUPERINTELLIGENCE. THAT IS WHAT HE PUT AHEAD OF COMMUNITY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF BUDGET PROBLEMS Y'ALL HAVE. I DON'T PAY ATTENTION.

THIS IS MY FIRST MEETING, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ACT, I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A PEN TO FILL OUT THE LITTLE THING, I HAD TO BORROW ONE FROM THE NICE GAL OVER THERE, THANK YOU.

BUT IF SOMETHING IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO GET ME OFF OF MY LAND TO COME HERE AND FIND A PARKING SPOT, IT MATTERS TO A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAN JUST ME, OKAY? BECAUSE MY WIFE COOKS REALLY GOOD, ALL RIGHT? AND I'M HERE INSTEAD OF THERE RIGHT NOW. BUT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO MAKE MONEY. THAT IS ALWAYS A HAS BEEN, AND THERE WILL ALWAYS BE. TO TAKE THAT AS A WAY TO KIND OF SAY, THAT'S OKAY, TO TURN OUR BACK ON WHAT EVERYBODY FEELS LIKE, THAT'S NOT COOL. DON'T DO THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO GO MUCH MORE INTO THAT.

I WILL ALSO BRING UP, A BUNCH OF POINTS ABOUT IT BUT NOT THE PROPERTY VALUE. PROPERTY VALUE ANYWHERE AROUND THESE DATA CENTERS ARE GOING DOWN, AND I WILL NEVER SELL MY LAND, I LOVE THIS COUNTY, FLORIDA POWER FOREVER, BUT THAT SPEAKS TO A LOT OF FOLKS. THE PROPERTY VALUE ALONE.

I HAVE BEEN TO WHERE SOME OF THESE BIG DATA CENTERS, NOT THE LITTLE ONES EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT, THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP BY THE WAY THAT WAS AWESOME. BUT I HAVE BEEN TO THESE PLACES, AND -- SORRY! I'M NOT USED TO THIS.

THANK YOU ALL. [LAUGHTER]

>> REBECCA MARK? >> THERE IS A DATA CENTER FOR

YOU. >> ONE OF THE THINGS YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR, I SUPPOSE I AM ENTITLED TO A LIFE OF QUIET ENJOYMENT, SO IT SAYS IN ENGLISH COMMON LAW.

YOU ARE REQUIRED TO REGULATE AND ENFORCE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THIS COUNTY SAYS AUDIBLE NOISE IS PROHIBITED FOR ANY LONGER THAN 5 MINUTES, FROM 10:00 P.M. TO 7:00 P.M.

WHAT THE LADY PREVIOUSLY SAID, THE SOUND PENETRATES WALLS CARGOES 247, 365. THERE IS NO REST THERE.

I HAVE LOOKED AT ALL THE DEVELOPERS IN THE AREA, EVERY ONE OF THEM HAS SOME KIND OF LAWSUIT THEY HAVE LOST, SO I DON'T TRUST THEM TO SAY WE ARE GOING TO BUILD YOU A DATA CENTER THAT IS JUST AWESOME AND IT WILL BE QUIET.

I DON'T TRUST THEM TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT.

PEOPLE WHO BENEFIT ARE AMAZON GOOGLE, APPLE, BLACKROCK AND VANGUARD. THEIR GOAL IS DATA MINING FOR PROFIT. THE ACCELERATION AND DESIRE FOR DATA CENTERS IS NOT MOTIVATED -- IT IS MOTIVATED BY GREED WE

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DON'T NEED THESE THINGS. DO WE USE DATA? ABSOLUTELY. I USE IT FOR RESEARCH ON THIS THING. I USED GOOGLE AND I USED MY PHONE. WE DON'T NEED THIS THOUGH.

ANOTHER THING, IN CLAY COUNTY THERE'S 6100 VACANT AVAILABLE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. THERE IS 10000 NEW UNITS PLANNED I'M SORRY, I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANY MORE CONCRETE.

I THINK IF YOU REALLY WANT TO SAVE THIS COUNTY AND KEEP IT WHERE IT IS, WE NEED TOURISM. WE HAVE AWESOME, AWESOME ENVIRONMENT. THIS PLACE IS PARADISE, I'M A LIFELONG FLORIDA RESIDENT. I DON'T NEED TO TELL ME -- STUDY THE RATTLESNAKE, I'M NOT STUDYING THEM, HE'S BAD AND I DON'T WANT HIM. I DON'T NEED A ROCK WHERE WE GO INTO TOWN AND SPIT ON IT BECAUSE THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA, WITHOUT BUILDING THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. SO I AM FOR PROHIBITING THIS, NOT FOR A YEAR, CAN I UNDERSTAND THERE IS ALSO ISSUES WITH MAYBE LOOKING AT INCREASING INSURANCE, BECAUSE WHEN DATA CENTERS ARE BANNED YES THE COMPANIES COME ALONG AND THEY DO DEMAND -- THEY CAN SUE THE CORPORATE ENTITY OR COMMUNITY -- ANYWAYS.

NO, THANK YOU. >> ALREADY CALCULATES AND KNOWLES KAHUKU CHECKED AGAINST AND FOR, WHICH ONE IS IT?

>> I AM FOR. [UNCLEAR] COMMISSIONER COOKIE SAID 12 MONTHS IS A LONGER TIME TO WAIT.

THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES GOING ON.

TWELVE MONTHS IS JUST A BLANKET, [UNCLEAR] THEN THEY MOVE OUT AND THEY ARE GONE. TWELVE MONTHS IS NOT THAT LONG AND IN THAT 12 MONTHS THERE WILL BE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT IN EQUIPMENT AND THE WAY THEY DO STUFF.

LET'S DO A REALLY GOOD JOB. LET'S LET THEM DEVELOP.

SAINT JOHNS COUNTY DEVELOP THEIRS, OTHER COUNTIES AROUND US, WE HAD [UNCLEAR] WE KNOW THE MISTAKES THEY MADE AND WE CAN AVOID THAT FOR THE RESIDENTS OF CLAY COUNTY.

$50 MILLION SHORT THIS YEAR, THAT IS A MILLION DOLLARS A WEEK WITH TWO WEEKS VACATION. THAT IS $200,000 A DAY.

HOW MUCH WOULD THE DATA CENTER ADD BACK TO THAT? IT'S ALWAYS CHANGING FROM CLOSED LOOP TO OPEN LOOP WE WERE TOLD LAST TIME -- I'M A PIPE FITTER CUYAHOGA FINALLY GOT IN AND FOUND OUT HOW STRICT THE CONTROL IS, IT'S NOT GOING TO PUT ANYTHING OUT. YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A NUCLEAR REACTOR THERE, AND GENERATE ELECTRICITY.

THE LAST THING, WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WATER.

THE STATE OF FLORIDA, MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE THIRSTY.

WHEN IT COMES DOWN, YOU HAVE WATER BOTTLES UP THERE, WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE LAST GLASS OF WATER, YOU ALREADY IN WATER RESTRICTIONS NOW, WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THAT LAST WATER YOU HAVE SITTING THERE, ARE YOU GOING TO DUMP IT INTO AN AI CENTER TO KEEP RECORDS COOL OR ARE YOU GOING TO DRINK IT? THAT DAY IS COMING. THAT'S ABOUT ALL I GOT.

>> THANK YOU. JEFF WALKER AND THEN WE HAVE

LINDSEY TAYLOR. >> GOOD EVENING.

I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF CLAY COUNTY ABOUT 47 YEARS, BEEN LIVING HERE IN GREEN COVE FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS, I JUST HEARD ABOUT THIS MEETING AND I SHOWED UP.

I KNOW A LOT ABOUT THESE DATA CENTERS, I HAVE STUDIED THIS ONLINE TRYING TO PUT AWARENESS. WHEN I SEE A PATTERN OCCURRING ACROSS THE UNITED STATES IS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE IMPACT REPORTS, RESIDENTIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL, HAD THEY, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE ALLOWED THEM BECAUSE YOU FIND THE WATER IS GOING TO THE TAP,

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THE RESIDENTS WATER IS ALL BROWN AND TOXIC.

SO IT'S LIKE WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WHEN THE WATER IS GONE? THE WATER IS ALL DEPLETED. THE GODFATHER OF DATA CENTER EXCLUSIVELY TALKS ABOUT HIS CONCERN, HUMAN EXTINCTION THAT CAN HAPPEN WITHIN 20-50 YEARS, AND THESE DATA CENTERS ARE OBSOLETE IN 20-30 YEARS. IT'S ALL ADVANCED AND OBSOLETE.

THEN IT'S A DESOLATE WASTELAND. YOU JUST GAVE YOUR LAND FOR 20 YEARS, AND WASTE YOUR ENVIRONMENT.

IT'S NONSENSE. AND HONESTLY I COME TO THIS WITH INFORMATION, AMERICA HAS A 75% MORE DATA CENTER THAN CHINA AND CHINA IS THE DIGITAL PRISON OF THE WORLD RIGHT NOW.

THERE WERE AT THE WORLD ECONOMIC RENNINGER DIGITAL PRISON AGENDA WHERE IT'S A AGENDA TO CAST SOCIETY, AND THEY DON'T NEED ALL THESE DATA CENTERS FOR THAT DATA MINING CRYPTO WITH THEM, THESE CORPORATE PARASITES PUT THEIR PHONE UP AND BUY THESE CORPORATIONS OR DATA CENTERS AND THEY CHECK THE TAXPAYERS TO PAY THEM BACK LIKE THE WATER PLANT IN MIDDLEBURG.

WE PAID FOR THAT AND THEY CAME UP ON THE FRONT AND GOT A FREE WATER PLANT, JUST TAKE ALL THESE DATA CENTER PEOPLE MONEY CRYPTO OFF OF OUR TAX DOLLARS. THEY ARE PLAYING US.

DON'T GET PLAYED. I WILL BE DROPPING INFORMATION, I KIND OF KNOW THE SYSTEM NOW, THIS IS MY FIRST MEETING.

BUT I SHARED ENOUGH. KEEP IN MIND THAT BECAUSE ALSO THERE IS THIS THING CALLED A DIGITAL BIOLOGICAL CONVERGENCE, WE HAVE CALLED WHAT IS CALLED SMART DUST THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE A DIGITAL PRISON USING THE SMART DUST AND DIGITALLY WITHERGE SUPER AI AND THE DATA GUARDS WILL MONITOR US LIKE PRISON GUARDS AND THEY WILL SHUT

OFF OUR MONEY. >>> THE B SIDE IS HERE.

>> THANK YOU. >>> LYNDSAY ROBERT AND ROBERTA

ROSARIO. >> IT'S ME AGAIN, LYNDSAY, I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE MORATORIUM ON DATA CENTERS.

WE'VE BEEN LIVING THROUGH A SEVERE MULTI-YEAR DROUGHT WITH OUR LOCAL AQUA FIRE UNDER EXTREME PRESSURE.

MY FAMILY AND CHILDRN AND LIVESTOCK RELY ON PRIVATE WELL WATER AS MANY OF YOU DO IN RURAL AREAS AND FARMLANDS OF CLAY COUNTY. WE HAVE ALL SEEN THE DOCUMENTED CASE IN OTHER STATES WHERE MASSIVE INDUSTRIAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS RESULTED IN RESIDENTIAL WELLS RIPPING DRY OR BECOMING CONTAMINATED AS WELL AS CAUSING WELL EQUIPMENT TO FAIL.

LEAVING CITIZENS FORCED TO LEE ON WOMANED WATER.

IT'S A BURDEN BUT FOR FARMERS IT'S DEVASTATING.

I CAN'T IMAGINE BRINGING IN LOADS OF JUGS OF WATER BACK AND FORTH FOR OUR PASTURES FOR OUR ANIMALS AND LET ALONE MY OWN FAMILY. BEFORE THE COUNTY CONSIDERS HIGH CONSUMPTION OR ANY KIND OF DATA CENTERS TO OUR BACKYARD WE NEED TO BE CERTAIN OUR EXISTING WELLS WILL REMAIN SAFE AND FUNCTIONAL.

I URGE YOU TO PASS THIS MORATORIUM TO PRIORITIZE THE WATER RIGHTS OF THE FAMILIES AND FARMERS WHO RELY ON THE WATER THAT ARE ALREADY HERE. WE UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT AND LOWERING OUR GROWING DEBT BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO KEEP THE HEART AND SOUL OF OUR COUNTY IN MIND.

MOST OF US CHOSE TO LIVE AND RAISE OUR KIDS AND INVEST OUR LIVES IN CLAY COUNTY BECAUSE OF THE BREATHTAKING NATURAL BEAUTY, QUIET PASTURES AND DEEP SENSE OF COMMUNITY.

WHEN WE THINK OF WHAT MAKES THIS COUNTY SPECIAL WE THINK OF THE SPRING PARK TO SWIM, LAUNCHING KAYAKS INTO THE QUIET BENDS OF THE BLACK CREEK AND WALKING BEAUTIFUL TRAILS UNDER DOCTORS LAKE DRIVE UNDER THE ANCIENT WILLOW TREES DRAPED IN SPANISH MOSS. WE WOULD MUCH RATHER SUPPORT LOCAL COMMUNITY AND BUSINESS GROWTH, SEE MORE PARKS AND PROTECTED GREEN SPACES THAN WATCH MORE GAS STATIONS, STRIP MALLS AND CONCRETE FOOTPRINTS TAKE OVER OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

>>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> ROBERTA ROSARIA AND DANIEL COOK.

>> HELLO. MY NAME ROBERTA ROSARIA YO AND YOU HAVE MY ADDRESS ON FILE. CONCERNING AI DATA CENTERS I

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THOUGHT I WOULD GO DIRECTLY TO THE SOURCE, CHATGPT.

I'VE NEVER USED IT BEFORE UNTIL TODAY.

>>> I ASKED IT TWO QUESTIONS. I SAID WHAT ARE THE PROS OF AI DATA CENTERS AND THESE ARE THE PROS THAT IT GAVE ME.

>>> THIS IS WORD FOR WORD AI, AI DATA CENTERS DRIVE MASSIVE ACADEMIC GROWTH AND TECHNOLOGICAL BREAKTHROUGH BY PROVIDING THE IMMENSE COMPUTING POWER NEEDED TO SOLVE COMPLEX GLOBAL CHALLENGES. IT ACCELERATES SCIENTIFIC AND MEDICAL BREAKTHROUGHS, IT LOCAL AND REGIONAL ACADEMIC GROWTH, MASSIVE -- ECONOMIC GROWTH MASSIVE TAX REVENUES AND CONSTRUCTION JOBS. GRID EFFICIENCY SOFTWARE AND PIONEERING THE NEXT GEN POWER. SO THE CONS WERE A LOT MORE.

>>> SO THE CONS OF AI DATA CENTERS PRESENT SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES DUE TO THEIR UNPRECEDENTED DEMAND FOR ENERGY, WATER AND LAND. WHICH STRAINS LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND NEGATIVELY IMPACTS NEARBY COMMUNITIES.

IT CAN DRAW UP TO 20 TIMES MORE POWER THAN OLDER INFRASTRUCTURE, TALKING ABOUT OLDER DATA CENTERS.

INCREASING CONSUMER UTILITY RATES, LOCAL UTILITY PROVIDERS MUST FREQUENTLY FUND EXPENSIVE GRID TRANSMISSION UPGRADES AND THE COSTS WHICH ARE OFTEN PASSED DOWN TO REGULAR HOUSEHOLDS THROUGH HIGH ELECTRICITY BILLS. THE MASSIVE CONTINUOUS LOAD PLACED ON ELECTRICAL GRIDS THREATENS ELECTRICAL GRIDS, THEIR POWER STABILITY AND IT INCREASES THE RISK OF ROLLING BLACKOUTS. MASSIVE WATER DEPLETION WAS ANOTHER ONE, THEY REQUIRE HEAVY COOLING REQUIREMENTS REQUIRING MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WATER PER DAY, COMPARABLE TO THE CONSUMPTION OF A SMALL TOWN TO KEEP THE SYSTEM COOL AND THIS WAS ON JUST ONE AI DATA CENTER. THREATS TO LOCAL WATER SUPPLIES MOST AI DATA CENTERS ARE BEING DEVELOPED IN WATER STRESSED REGIONS LIKE FLORIDA, DRAWING DIRECTLY FROM LOCAL AQUA FIRS AND MUNICIPAL DRINKING SUPPLIES. IRREVERSIBLE LOSS.

IT TAKES A TOLL ON FARMING AND RESIDENTS, AIR POLLUTION WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT WHICH WILL AFFECT THE ENVIRONMENT AS WELL AS HUMAN HEALTH AND ANIMALS. ELECTRICAL NOISE AND HARM MONNICS CREATES ERRATIC SPIKES IN VOLTAGE THAT CAN DAMAGE A APPLIANCES OR CAUSE HOME FIRES IN SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE CONSTANT NOISE POLLUTION AND FEW PERMANENT JOBS.

AND THERE WERE MANY MORE THAT I COULDN'T DO BECAUSE OF TIME.

BUT I PLEAD WITH EACH ONE OF YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE COMING GENERATIONS AND TO TRULY PONDER WHAT THIS COULD DO TO OUR COMMUNITY. I PRAY THAT YOU WILL TAKE THIS NEXT YEAR TO DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE, IS THIS THE KIND OF PROGRESS THAT CLAY COUNTY REALLY WANTS AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO FINISH WITH THE ONE BEAUTIFUL BILL ACT IS NOT SO BEAUTIFUL.

>> THANK YOU. >>> DANIEL COOK AND THEN I HAVE

JAY CHRIS PIKE. >> ALL RIGHT, DANIEL COOK FOR THE RECORD, MY ADDRESS IS ON FILE.

>>> MADAM CHAIR, I DON'T KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT THESE DATA CENTERS BUT I'M LEARNING AS I GO ALONG.

I'VE BEEN TO THE LAST -- THE PREVIOUS MEETING TWO MONTHS AGO AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IT SEEMS THAT THESE DATA CENTERS MIGHT POSSIBLY HAVE A BAD IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT, RIGHT.

PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THEY USE UP WATER.

THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A STRAIN ON THE RESOURCES OF THE COUNTY.

I ALSO SHARE CONCERNS ABOUT THE PRIVACY ISSUES, YOU KNOW, WHO OWNS THESE DATA CENTERS AND SINCE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WHAT -- I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY, TOO, WHAT THE BOARD IS VOTING ON HERE TODAY, TOO. YOU'RE VOTING ON THIS IS A HEARING TO CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE IMPOSING THE MORATORIUM. SO, IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE ALREADY WRITTEN.

THIS IS TO APPROVE THE BOARD BRINGING BACK AN ORDINANCE IN THE FUTURE, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY.

AND SO, THE CONFESS THAT I'M POSING -- QUESTIONS I'M POSING, THE QUESTIONS I ANY THE PUBLIC IS -- THINK THE PUBLIC IS BRINGING UP SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THIS ORDINANCE AS IT'S WRITTEN -- OR WHEN IT IS WRITTEN AND I HOPE THE PUBLIC WILL CONTINUE TO COME AND BE INVOLVED AND VOICE OUR CONCERNS.

SO COMING BACK TO THE PRIVACY OF THESE DATA CENTERS AND I'M GLAD THE COMMISSIONER BROUGHT UP THE BIG PICTURE AT THE LAST MEETING.

I THINK THIS IS SUCH A PIVOTAL VOTE NOT ONLY TODAY'S VOTE BUT WHETHER -- WHAT THIS ORDINANCE POTENTIALLY LOOKS LIKE IN THE

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MONTHS AHEAD. YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE DIRECTION OF THIS COUNTY. WHAT'S THE DIRECTION OF AMERICA.

WHAT'S THE DIRECTION OF OUR CULTURE.

IS IT GOING TO BE AN A.I. TOTAL SURVEILLANCE TYPE DYSTOPIA AS SOME OF THE OTHERS SPEAKERS ALLUDED TO.

IS IT GOING TO BE USED BY -- I THINK THAT -- THERE ASK THE QUESTION WHO IS GOING TO BE OWNING THESE DATA CENTERS.

IS IT THESE CORPORATIONS THAT USE IT TO MARKET TO US.

IS IT GOING TO BE SHARED WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT.

WHAT'S THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE DATA CENTERS, THE OWNERS, THE GOVERNMENT AND I THINK THAT'S THE WHOLE LOT OF -- IT'S A BIG CAN OF WORMS. IT'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR THIS BOARD TO BE CONSIDERING AND FOR THE RECORD, I AM FOR THE MORATORIUM. I'M AGAINST THE DATA CENTERS, PRIMARILY FOR PRIVACY CONCERNS BUT I THINK THAT'S ABOUT -- THAT KIND OF SUMS IT UP BUT I'LL JUST FINISH BY SAYING I'M CHOOSING NOT TO COMPLY NOR CONSENT WITH THE NOTION THAT AN A.I.

DOMINATED FUTURE IS IMMINENT, BENEFICIAL OR ACCEPTED.

>>> SO, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>>> JAY CHRIS PIKE. >> SO, IGNORANCE IS BLISS.

AND GOOD EVENING, NEIGHBORS. HERE'S -- I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE.

THE PROMISE OF CLOSED LEAK DATA CENTERS COMING TO CLAY COUNTY.

THE DEVELOPERS WILL TELL YOU IT'S CLEAN, IT'S QUIET, AND IT'S A WIN FOR OUR ECONOMY. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THEY ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN COMMUNITIES ACROSS VIRGINIA, GEORGIA AND RIGHT NOW IN FLORIDA, YOU WILL SEE A DIFFERENT STORY, A CLOSE LOOPED DATA CENTER IS NOT A SOLUTION.

IT IS A SHELL GAME AND CLAY COUNTY IS BEING SET UP TO LOSE.

FIRST, LET'S TALK ABOUT WATER. THE TERM CLOSED LOOP IS MEANT TO REASSURE THAT THESE FACILITIES DON'T GUZZLE UP MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WATER FROM FLORIDA AQUIFERS BUT THE TRUTH, THE INDUSTRY DOESN'T REFILL, IT IS NEVER TRULY CLOSED.

THE WATER COMES OUT, STILL HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE, OFTEN TO THE P AFC FOREVER CHEMICALS AND OTHER COOLING SYSTEM CONTAMINANTS IN CLAY COUNTY, GOOD MORNING -- CLAYTON COUNTY GEORGIA RESIDENTS ARE ALREADY ASKING WHERE DOES THE TOXIC WATER GO.

WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER AND NEITHER WILL CLAY COUNTY UNLESS

WE DEMAND ONE NOW. >>> SECOND, THE ELECTRICITY, A SINGLE HYPER SKILL DATA CENTER DRAWS 200 TO 500 MEGAWATTS OF POWER, HALF OF CLAY ELECTRIC'S TOTAL PEAK LOAD.

THE DEVELOPERS WILL SAY THEY CAN BRING THEIR OWN POWER OR BUILD SOLAR FARMS BUT THE REALITY IS THAT OUR GRID WILL STILL STAND MASSIVE UPGRADES TO HANDLE THE LOAD AND GUESS WHO PAYS FOR THAT. THEY SHOULD BE PAYING FOR THAT, THEY SHOULD BE PAYING FOR EVERYTHING.

YOU DO. IN VIRGINIA, ELECTRIC BILLS ARE FAMILIAR. HAVE RISEN 41% SINCE 2023, A THREE BEDROOM HOME NOW COASTS $900 A MONTH TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON. THAT'S NOT PROGRESS.

THAT IS A SUBS DID I CLAY COUNTY FAMILIES TO A SILICON VALLEY

BALANCE SHEET. >>> THIRD YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE THESE FACILITIES RUN 24/7, 365, THEY PRODUCE CONSTANT LOW FREQUENCY HUM THAT SOME RESIDENTS NEAR FACILITY DESCRIBE AS STANDING NEXT TO A CORN DRYER ON A 24-HOURS A DAY.

THEY'RE UGLY, CONCRETE BOXES THAT KILL PROPERTY VALUES AND WE HAVE NOT EVEN BEGUN TO STUDY A LONG-TERM HEALTH EFFECTS ON ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS AND CHEMICAL RUN-OFF.

THE DATA CENTERS INDUSTRY IS MOVING FAST AND THEY ARE BETTING THAT YOU WON'T ASK HARD QUESTIONS UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE.

>>> CLAY COUNTY DOES NOT NEED TO BE TEST CASE FOR TECHNOLOGY THAT HASN'T -- HAS ALREADY FAILED ITS NEIGHBORS.

WE NEED ENFORCEMENT STANDARDS, PAID FOR BY THE DEVELOPERS FOR VERIFIED WATER RECYCLING, SELF GENERATING POWER AND FIRST OF ALL GRID IMPACT ASSESSMENT. WE NEED A MORATORIUM UNTIL WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE SIGNING OFF FOR.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >>> ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK?

>>> COME FORWARD AND MAKE SURE YOU GET A CARD AFTER, PLEASE.

>> HELLO, MY NAME IS SALINA, I LIVE ON COLLEGE, I'VE LIVED HERE MY ENTIRE LIFE AND I THINK DATA CENTERS ARE HONESTLY THE

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STUPIDEST THING EVER CREATED. WE HAVE NEVER NEEDED THEM REALLY, NOT THE TYPES OF HOSPITALS, WE'VE NEEDED THOSE BUT AI -- ISOTOPES IN HOSPITALS BUT AI DATA CENTERS ARE NOT GOING TO BE USEFUL IN THE FUTURE.

MY SISTER'S ONLY 10 CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PHOTOS -- I'M SORRY, I GET TWITCHY WHEN I'M NERVOUS BUT ONE THING THAT WASN'T POINTED OUT WAS THERE ARE ALREADY DATA SHOWING THAT FARMS ARE NOT HAVING CALVES BECAUSE OF THESE DATA CENTERS.

THAT'S HAPPENING TO THE FARMALSN TO US.

ALREADY OUR POPULATION'S DECLINING AND THIS IS JUST GOING TO MAKE IT WORSE. MORE WOMEN LOSING THEIR BABIES, PEOPLE NOT HAVING KIDS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO GO TO THAT

TRAUMA. >>> SAY NO TO DATA CENTERS, YES

TO THE MORATORIUM. >> THANK YOU.

>>> ANYONE ELSE? >> I HAVE A CARD.

>>> I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE MORATORIUM BUT I ASK YOU THAT YOU CONSIDER BANNING THESE COMPLETELY.

LAST MONTH GOVERNOR DESANTIS SIGNED A LAW THAT I'LL QUOTE HIM, HE SAID TODAY IN LAKELAND I SIGNED LEGISLATION TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS AND COMMUNITIES FROM HYPER SCALE DATA CENTERS.

THESE ARE MUCH NEEDED PROTECTIONS FOR TAXPAYERS AND OUR NATURAL RESOURCES. IT GOES INTO EFFECT JULY 1ST.

AND THAT GIVES YOU GUYS THE POWER TO DO WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING YOU TO DO AND BAN THESE CENTERS.

>>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>>> ANYONE ELSE? >>> HAVE YOU GOT A CARD?

>>> OKAY, GREAT. ANYONE ELSE?

>>> OKAY. I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. A MOTION?

>> I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION, MADAM CHAIR AND I HAVE JUST A FEW THINGS I WROTE DOWN. ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS IS A LOT OF PEOPLE BRING UP NIAGARA, WHICH IS THE WATER BOTTLING FACILITY OVER OFF OF CHALLENGER.

THIS BOARD NEVER VOTED ON WHETHER THAT COULD COME HERE OR NOT. AND SO, THE EARLIER CONVERSATION ABOUT ZONING AND LAND USE, THEY HAVE THE ZONING AND LAND USE.

WE DON'T GET TO PICK IF IT'S COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT CAN COME THERE. THEY HAD TO GET PERMITS FOR ALL OF THEIR BUILDING FROM THE COUNTY.

THEY ALSO HAD TO GET A PERMIT FROM THE ST. [UNCLEAR] RIVER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT TO PURCHASE WATER FROM THE CLAY COUNTY UTILITY AUTHORITY WHICH IS NOT UNDER THIS BOARD.

THEY'RE IN A SEPARATE QUASI GOVERNMENTAL FACILITY.

AND THE WATER THEY WERE PERMITTED FOR IS EQUIVALENT TO THAT USAGE OF ABOUT A THOUSAND HOMES.

AND SO, WE DID GIVE THEM ECONOMIC INCENTIVES FOR JOBS BECAUSE ONE OF OUR JOBS IS TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR JOBS IN THE AREA. SO, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO SAY THAT WE SOLD OUT TO NIAGARA. WE DIDN'T.

NOBODY DID. AND SO, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY

THAT. >>> THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO BUY BOTTLED WATER AND DRINK BOTTLED WATER.

IF YOU DON'T WANT IT TO BE HERE AS THE COMMISSIONER SAID, STOP DRINKING BOTTLED WATER. I BRING MINE FROM HOME BECAUSE I HAVE WELL WATER AND I'M A WATER SNOB BUT I LIVE IN THE COUNTRY AND WE LIKE OUR WATER, RIGHT BUT ANYWAY, SPEAKING OF WATER, I DO LIVE IN THE COUNTRY, I REPRESENT DISTRICT 4 AND JUST FEEL LIKE THAT WE HAVE SENATOR BRADLEY STAYED TODAY AT THE LEGISLATIVE LUNCHEON, WE HAVE A WATER QUANTITY PROBLEM, SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT WATER QUALITY BUT WE DO HAVE A WATER QUANTITY PROBLEM AND I LIVE WHERE THE AQUIFER'S RECHARGED.

MY FAMILY HAS OWNED PROPERTY, MY PARENT BOUGHT PROPERTY IN 1950 SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME PERSONALLY AND FOR OUR COUNTY AND OUR AREA TO PROTECT THE WATER.

AT ALL COST. AND THAT'S MY LARGEST CONCERN.

BUT THEN I ALSO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT STAFF.

OUR STAFF, OUR PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF.

IT IS VERY DIFFICULT NOW FOR GOVERNMENTS TO HIRE PLANNERS AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT OTHER MEETINGS BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN, ENCOURAGE THEM TO MAJOR IN PLANNING AT COLLEGE BECAUSE THEY CAN MAKE A LOT OF MONEY BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH

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OF THEM OUT THERE. BUT, OUR STAFF IS OVERWHELMED WITH APPLICATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY COMING IN FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND CHANGES WHICH EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO DO IN CLAY COUNTY AND OUR CODE IS SILENT.

SO A NUMBER OF YOU TONIGHT HAVE MENTIONED THINGS LIKE GUARDRAILS AND WHERE COULD THESE BE LOCATED LOCATED.

OUR CODE IS SILENT. IT'S IMPORTANT WE PUT GUARDRAILS. THE LOVELY LADY WHO SPOKE ABOUT HOSPITALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AI IS NOT BAD IN AND OF ITSELF.

>>> IF YOUR CAR HAS ADAPTIVE CRUISE CONTROL OR THE LIGHTS THAT TELL YOU IF A CAR'S ON EITHER SIDE OF YOU ON YOUR SIDE MIRRORS, THAT'S ALL AI. IT'S ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.

AI IN AND OF ITSELF IS NOT BAD. WHERE IT IS STORED, THERE ARE 50 STATES IN THE U.S. AND THEY CAN FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE TO STORE IT.

THEY WANT FLORIDA BECAUSE OF TWO THINGS.

ONE, FLORIDA'S VERY BUSINESS FRIENDLY.

HAS -- WE HAVE A GOVERNOR WHO'S VERY BUSY FRIENDLY, LOW TAX BASE, NO INCOME TAX, NO PERSONAL INCOME TAX.

SO, CORPORATE TAXES ARE LOW. AND THAT'S WHY THEY WANT TO LOCATE HERE. AND ACCESS TO WATER, BECAUSE WATER'S RIGHT BELOW THE GROUND. THEY DON'T HAVE TO -- IN THE DESERT THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE WATER THERE.

I GET THAT EXCEPT WE NEED THE WATER TO DRINK AND WE NEED TO PROTECT RURAL FLORIDA. I WANT THE GUARDRAILS AROUND IT AND I WANT STAFF TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THE TIME AND HAVE THE TIME TO DO THAT AND NOT BE RUSHED BECAUSE OF SOMETHING THAT COMES IN AND THEN WE HAVE TO SCRAMBLE TO SEE HOW IT CAN FIT WITHIN OUR CODE BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN WE MAKE BAD DECISIONS.

AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING SOMEONE MENTIONED THAT THEY WOULD NOT LOCATE IN CRY COUNTY BECAUSE OF THEY WANT TO BE NEAR -- CLAY COUNTY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE NEAR POWER GENERATION.

THE CONCERN I HAVE IS THE SEMINAL ELECTRIC POWER GENERATION PLANT IN PUTNAM COUNTY IS JUST ACROSS THE ST.

JOHN'S RIVER FROM THE SOUTH PART OF CLAY.

AND THAT'S PRETTY -- A LITTLE TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT FOR ME ALTHOUGH I CAN'T SAY THAT I DIDN'T DISAGREE WITH ROOSTER THAT MAYBE THEY NEED TO PULL THE WATER OUT OF THE ST. JOHN'S AND JUST RECYCLE THAT AND THEN THEY CAN PAY PROPERTY TAXES ON THE ST. JOHN'S BUT FOR ME, I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE -- I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ENOUGH COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WANTING TO COME TO CLAY COUNTY THAT IS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, THAT RESIDENTS WANT. THAT WE DON'T NEED TO SELL OUT FOR WATER. MAYBE.

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW. I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE KNOW ENOUGH TO KNOW SO THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS THE POTENTIAL -- I HEAR YOU ON WANTING THE BAN, I HEAR YOU ON THE CONCERNS, I HEAR YOU ON THE TEMPERATURE RAISING AND THE CONSTANT NOISE AND LIGHT POLLUTION AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. I LIVE WHERE I CAN SEE THE STARS AT MIGHT AND I APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO SEE THE STARS AT NIGHT AND I CAN, I CAN GO OUTSIDE AND THERE'S PURE QUIET AT MY HOUSE.

AND PROBABLY A LOT OF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE TO TAKE THE TIME TO DO THE RESEARCH.

THE OTHER THING THAT CAME UP AND I JUST WANTED TO MENTION IS, SLOT CAMERAS ARE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

WE FUND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BUT WE DON'T CHOOSE HOW THE OFFICE SPENDS THEIR MONEY. OUR SHERIFF HAS TALKED ABOUT THOSE PUBLICLY ABOUT THOSE BEING LICENSE PLATE READERS AND HOW THEY USE THAT INFORMATION. THEY'RE BOUND BY STATE LAWS AND I FULLY SUPPORT OUR SHERIFF. SHE'S IN COME PLAINS WITH STATE

LAW. >>> I LIVE -- I KNOW I TALK

ABOUT WHERE I LIVE A LOT. >>> BRADFORD COUNTY HAS THEM RIGHT ACROSS FROM -- A LOT OF COUNTY HAVE THEM, MAYBE ALL DO, I DON'T KNOW BUT THEY'RE AROUND SO OBVIOUSLY LAW ENFORCEMENT IS USING THEM BUT I DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE CONNECTED WITH THIS CONVERSATION. WE ARE NOT -- THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY. I'VE NOT BEEN ASKED TO SIGN A NDA, IT'S I BROUGHT THIS UP, AND PROPOSED IT AND I, AGAIN, BECAUSE I WANT TO PROTECT OUR COUNTY, I ALSO WANT TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS, SOUND DECISIONS WITH GOOD POLICY BEHIND IT AND I THINK THAT LETTING US TAKE A BREATHER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE RIGHT THINGS ARE IS IMPORTANT. AND SO, FOR THOSE REASONS, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ONE-YEAR MORATORIUM.

>> I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. >> THE CHAIR: MOTION IS

SECONDED. >> I HAVE COMMENTS.

>>> SO I'M IN FAVOR OF A FULL BAN.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THESE ARE BENEFICIAL TO CLAY COUNTY, I

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DON'T THINK THE JUICE IS WORTH THE SQUEEZE.

I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE THE VOTES FOR A FULL BAN BUT ONE QUESTION THAT I DO HAVE FOR THE ATTORNEY IS COURTENAY, IF WE WERE TO MOTION TO DO A BAN, AND THEN A BAN IS DEEMED UNCONSTITUTIONAL,

WHAT HAPPENS THEN? >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE NOT SUFFICIENTLY ADVERTISED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN ORDINANCE FOR A BAN. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO BRING BACK. IF YOU DO PASS A BAN AND IT'S RULED UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND IT STRIKES THE BAN --

>> THEN WE START ALL OVER. >> YEAH.

>> SO THAT'S KIND OF MY POINT. IS SOMETIMES IN LIFE, YOU GOT TO PLAY CHESS AND NOT CHECKERS. AND ONE THING THAT GIVES ME PAUSE OF MAKING THAT REACTIONARY DECISION WOULD BE THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, TONIGHT WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT PROPERTY RIGHTS.

AND I'M NOT SAYING IF YOU HAVE A PROPERTY YOU CAN BUILD A DATA CENTER, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING AT ALL BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT SOMETIMES THESE THINGS CAN GET RATHER LITIGIOUS AND IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE OF THIS BOARD TO DO AT THAT, THEN GET OVERTURNED IN COURT AND THEN WE STILL DON'T HAVE CODE ON IT, RIGHT. SOMEONE BROUGHT UP SENATE BILL 484 AND I LOOKED IT UP AND READ THROUGH IT.

SO UNFORTUNATELY, THE SENATE BILL DOES NOT -- FROM GOVERNOR DESANTIS IN THE LEGISLATURE DOES NOT PERMIT US THE RIGHT TO BAN IT. WHAT IT SAYS IS I KIND OF FOUND THE NUTS AND BOLTS BUT LARGE SCALE DATA CENTER PERMITTING, THE INTENT OF THE LEGISLATURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AND ORGANS OF LARGE SCALE DATA CENTERS IN THIS STATE WILL BE MANAGED UNDER A PERMITTING FRAMEWORK, THAT ENSURES THE STATE'S WATER RESOURCES ARE USED IN THE PUBLIC INTERESTS, IN A MANNER NOT HARMFUL TO THE WATER RESOURCES OF THE STATE AND THIS IS THE LOCAL PART YOU'RE REFERRING TO, AND IS CONSISTENT WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT ZONING REGULATIONS AND COMPREHENSIVE PLANS.

SO, LIKE I SAID, I'M FULLY IN FAVOR OF BANNING DATA CENTERS IN CLAY COUNTY. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH STAFF, TO ENSURE THAT OUR CODE IS AS STRICT AS WE POSSIBLY CAN MAKE IT TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY HARD TO PUT ONE OF THOSE THINGS HERE.

BUT LIKE I SAID, I THINK IT WOULD REAL BE A MISSTEP TO TRY TO BAN IT AND GET OVERTURNED AND NOW WE'RE LEFT WIDE OPEN WHICH WOULD REALLY, REALLY CAUSE US PROBLEMS.

SO, BUT THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. >> THE CHAIR: THANK YOU.

>> MADAM CHAIR, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS AND COMMISSIONER KIND OF BROUGHT UP THE WATER ISSUE AND THEY ALWAYS MAKE AN ANALOGY TOWARDS THE NIAGARA PLANT AND WHAT I'M AMAZED AT IS NO ONE BRINGS UP THE FACT THAT COCA-COLA HAS A PLANT JUST OVER THE LINE IN DEWALT COUNTY AND ANHEUSER-BUSCH AND THEY DRAW WATER FROM THE AQUIFER BUT NOBODY EVER BRINGS THOSE TWO UP.

>>> I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT THIS MORATORIUM AND THE STUDY, THIS 12 MONTH LOOKSY MAY BRING UP OTHER ISSUES, OTHER VOIDS THIS OUR CODE.

FOR INSTANCE, A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE POLLUTION, NITROUS OXIDE, CARBON DIOXIDE, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK ONE OF OUR SPEAKERS BROUGHT UP NOT ALL POWER COMES FROM FOSSIL FUELS, IT CAN COME FROM A NUCLEAR REACTOR.

AND THEY'RE BUILDING MANY NUCLEAR REACTORS.

WE DON'T HAVE CODE FOR NUCLEAR REACTORS EITHER IN CLAY COUNTY.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOT TO BE A LOT OF CONSEQUENCE TO US LOOKING AT THIS PROBLEM OR THIS ISSUE OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL UNCOVER OTHER ISSUES THAT WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED AS WELL. SO, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF A BAN.

WE HAVEN'T EVEN STUDIED IT YET, SO YOU KNOW, OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE -- THERE IS SOME ECONOMIC VALUE TO THESE PLANTS, SO WE WANT TO TAKE A GOOD LOOK AND SEE WHAT'S BEST FOR CLAY COUNTY, OVERALL. SO, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE

MORATORIUM. >> WELL, I CAN ALREADY TELL THE TENOR OF THE ROOM THAT I AM -- I'M GOING TO BE IN THE MINORITY AND PROBABLY FOR A DIFFERENT REASON THAN THE MANY TIMES MY NAME WAS BROUGHT UP TONIGHT. SO, HERE'S WHERE I'M AT.

I SAID THIS AT THE LAST MEETING ALSO.

WE DO NOT HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO ATTRACT A DATA CENTER TO CLAY COUNTY. WE JUST WHERE WE DON'T.

SO THAT'S WHY THERE IS NO APPLICATION, THAT'S WHY THERE IS NO COMPANY, THAT'S WHY THERE IS NO PROSPECTS OF A DATA CENTER COMING TO CLAY COUNTY. I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THAT EARLIER TODAY, SO THAT I WASN'T PONTIFICATING OR GRANDSTANDING

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UP HERE. THERE IS NO DATA CENTER.

AND SO FOR ME, BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE THAT, IT BECOMES A CONVERSATION ABOUT EFFICIENCY, EFFICIENCY AND THAT'S KIND OF SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP HERE, ON THE DYAS AND RYAN [UNCLEAR] 'S DAUGHTER BROUGHT UP SOMETHING AT THE LAST MEETING, HITTING ON THAT POINT AGAIN TONIGHT AND SHE AND I DON'T FALL ON THE SAME SIDE IN THIS CONVERSATION BUT SHE SAID SOMETHING THAT RESONATES WITH ME.

SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN FROM THE PAST AND I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH YOU ABOUT THAT.

NOW, HERE'S THE THING. THIS ALL STARTED BECAUSE OF SOMETHING THAT WAS HAPPENING IN A DIFFERENT COUNTY ALTOGETHER.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE NOTICED SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD IS THAT EVERY TIME THERE'S A KNEE-JERK REACTION TO SOMETHING COMPLETELY OUTSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY, IT DOES NOT SERVE CLAY COUNTY WELL. THIS IS MY FOURTH YEAR ON THE BOARD AND I CAN LOOK TO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT I HAVE FACED SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, WHERE A KNEE-JERK REACTION TO SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING EXTERNAL TO CLAY COUNTY HAS NOT BODE WELL FOR US. AND SO, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT STAFF'S FINITE RESOURCES, BEARING IN MIND THAT WE HAVE OTHER, MORE PRESSING ISSUES THAT OUR STAFF REALLY OUGHT TO BE FOCUSING ON, IN MY OPINION, I DON'T FIND IT NECESSARY, IN LIGHT OF OUR HISTORY, TO BRING ON MORE FOR COUNTY STAFF TO EVALUATE THAT IS SO UNLIKELY TO COME TO CLAY COUNTY.

AND I WAS HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE EARLIER TODAY, ABOUT UTILITIES WOULD BE REQUIRED, EVEN -- BECAUSE EVEN IN THE CONVERSATIONS TODAY, THERE WAS A LOT OF -- THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMENTARY ON HYPER CENTERS, HYPER CENTERS -- AT LEAST FOUR OR FIVE OF YOU BROUGHT UP HYPER CENTERS.

WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURES FOR THAT.

SO TO GUARD AGAINST SOMETHING THAT IS SO IMPROBABLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. WHEN WE DO HAVE ISSUES AT THAT WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON THAT STAFF OUGHT TO BE FOCUSING ON.

SO FOR ME, EFFICIENCY IS NOT COMMENSURATE WITH A DECISION TO IMPOSE A MORATORIUM IN MY OPINION.

HERE'S THE OTHER THING. I KIND OF BROUGHT THIS UP I THINK THE COMMISSIONER SAID IT WELL, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS IN OUR CODE THAT ARE NOT ADDRESSED.

HERE'S WHAT IS A RUB FOR ME, WHAT GIVES ME HEARTBURN IN THIS CONVERSATION IS TO SAY A VOTE FOR THE MORATORIUM IS TO SAY THAT I -- THAT WE CANNOT COMPETENTLY SCRUTINIZE A PROJECT ON ITS MERITS. DESPITE THE FACT THAT ALL OF YOU VERY ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS, HAD VERY SPECIFIC CRITIQUES OF A DATA CENTER, I TAKE MY JOB VERY SERIOUSLY TO PARTNER WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT'S INTERESTING TO ME IS THAT WE HAVE IN VERY RECENT HISTORY DEALT WITH GAPS IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHERE WE DID HAVE TO PARTNER WITH THE COMMUNITY.

I'M TALKING ABOUT IN THE LAST TWO COMMISSION MEETINGS, WHERE WE HAD TO ADDRESS GAPS IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND MAKE A DECISION, IRRESPECTIVE OF THAT FACT AND DOMINION TO A DECISION -- COME TO A DECISION THAT ACTUALLY BENEFITTED THOSE WHO WERE BRINGING IT TO US AND BENEFITTING OUR COMMUNITY.

SO FOR ME, THIS ISN'T EVEN A CONVERSATION ABOUT DATA CENTERS.

IT'S A CONVERSATION ABOUT EFFICIENCY AND IT'S A CONVERSATION ABOUT COMPETENCY AND I THINK THAT BASED ON MY HISTORY HERE, EXPERIENCE TELLS ME THAT WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON, I DON'T WANT TO ADD SOMETHING ELSE TO STAFF THAT IS SO IMPROBABLY. AND THE SECOND THING IS WE HAVE THE FIVE OF US HAVE VET PROJECTS THAT DID NOT FIT SQUARELY INTO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND I'M SO CONFIDENT IN OUR ABILITY TO DO IT AGAIN. SO FOR ME, A VOTE FOR THE MORATORIUM IS -- IT'S JUST INCONGRUENT WITH WHAT I'VE EXPERIENCED HERE ON THE COMMISSION.

SO FOR ME, I MAY BE THE ONLY ONE, I'M OKAY WITH THAT, IT'S A NO.

>> YOU GO AHEAD WITH YOUR COMMENTS, I WANTED TO CLARIFY ONE THING. MY ASKING FOR A CONSIDER THIS MORATORIUM WAS NOT A KNEE-JERK REACTION.

AND IT WAS ALSO BASED ON A CONVERSATION I HAD WITH ANDY CHAFE, THE CEO OF CLAY ELECTRIC. THERE WAS A DATA CENTER WHO WAS

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POKING AROUND CLAY COUNTY, AND POKING AROUND MY AREA, MY DISTRICT. SO, MAYBE THEY DIDN'T CONTACT THE COUNTY AND LOOK AT WHAT OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SAYS, THEY DIDN'T GET TO THAT POINT BUT THEY DID INQUIRY WITH CLAY ELECTRIC ABOUT THE USE OF THE POWER.

SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT I, I DO THINK THAT FOUR EFFICIENCY SAKE, USING THE NASSAU COUNTY LANGUAGE FOR THE MORATORIUM AND NASSAU COUNTY GOING FORWARD WITH THE MORATORIUM WAS BENEFICIAL FOR US.

BUT WHERE I FIRST STARTED TALKING WITH STAFF, WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER AND COUNTY ATTORNEY WAS BECAUSE OF A CONCERN THAT I HAD, FROM CLAY ELECTRIC.

NONE OF US WERE INVOLVED. NONE OF US WERE CONTACTED.

THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SAID YOU HAVE SIGNED NDAS, THAT HASN'T HAPPENED. BUT AT MY ROTARY CLUB MEETING, WHEN ANDY CHAFE GAVE AN UPDATE ABOUT CLAY ELECTRIC AT OUR MEETING, HE TALKED ABOUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT -- THIS WAS BEFORE THE GOVERNOR PASSED HIS BILL, WHICH WAS SOMETHING THAT CLAY ELECTRIC ACTUALLY PARTICIPATED IN LOBBYING FOR, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ANDY SAID TO ME, TO US THAT DAY WAS TALKING ABOUT THE UPGRADES THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED OF THE GRID AND THE POWER SYSTEM WITH CLAY ELECTRIC AND THAT THEY DON'T -- CLAY ELECTRIC IS MEMBER-OWNED.

ALL OF US ENJOY LOW ELECTRIC RATES BECAUSE WE OWN IT.

THEREFORE WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THE UPGRADES AND THANKFULLY THE GOVERNORS THAT SIGNED THE BILL SAID IF THE DATA CENTER WERE ALLOWED AND IT WAS BUILT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THAT TAKES THAT OFF THE TABLE, EXCEPT THAT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT COME WITH IT, I THINK SOME PEOPLE ADDRESSED THAT TONIGHT.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WHEN I BROUGHT THIS UP, THAT'S

WHAT CAME IN. >> CAN I --

>> I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO TALK ABOUT, BECAUSE IT CAME UP IN A CONVERSATION THAT I WAS HAVING EARLIER TODAY.

HERE'S WHERE I'M AT WITH THAT. I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT FORWARD. AND I WANT THIS TO BE, I WANT TO BE VERY DELICATE IN THE WAY I SAY THIS.

THERE ARE A LOT OF INQUIRIES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY COME TO CLAY COUNTY BASED ON THAT PREMISE ALONE, WE WOULD HAVE STAFF RUNNING IN A MILLION DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.

AND THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS. THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES THAT COULD BE ASKING QUESTIONS AND SO IF THAT IS THE BASIS UPON WHICH COUNTY STAFF TO GET INVOLVED AT THIS HIGH OF A LEVEL, THEN WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES.

COUNTY STAFF RESOURCES. BUT HERE'S THE OTHER THING, THAT INFORMS MY DECISION, IS THAT IN OUR CONVERSATION EARLIER TODAY, ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT IS VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN UTILITIES AT A STATE-WIDE LEVEL, WAS SHARING WITH ME THAT THIS HAS BECOME A HOT TOPIC CONVERSATION ACROSS THE COUNTIES, BECAUSE IT'S AN ELECTION YEAR. AND I SAY THAT VERY CAREFULLY, BUT INTENTIONALLY, THAT THIS HAS BECOME A WEDGE ISSUE IN CAMPAIGNS THAT AREN'T EVEN IN CLAY COUNTY.

THEY'RE NOT IN CLAY COUNTY. AND SO, BECAUSE IT'S BECOME A WEDGE ISSUE, YOU SAW HERE AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING THAT WE HAD MEDIA IN THE CORNER AND ALL THEY NEEDED TO HEAR WAS DATA CENTER.

AND YOU DON'T SEE THEM HERE TONIGHT.

WE'VE GOT SOME, I'M NOT GOING TO CALL YOU OUT BUT IT'S NOT YOUR MAJOR NEWS SOURCES. SO I DON'T WANT AGAIN TO DISTRACT FROM WHAT IS IMPORTANT. AND THAT'S MY ANGLE.

THAT'S MY ANGLE. IF THIS IS GOING TO BE A WEDGE ISSUE, IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, OUTSIDE OF CLAY COUNTY, THEN I DON'T WANT IT TO BECOME SOMETHING THAT DISTRACTS WITHIN CLAY COUNTY. SO FOR ME, AGAIN, IT BECOMES A CONVERSATION ABOUT EFFICIENCY. EFFICIENCY OF STAFF.

THE REASON WHY COMMISSIONER WAS THE ONLY ONE TO KNOW ABOUT THAT IS BECAUSE IT DID NOT RISE TO THE LEVEL THAT EVEN THE COUNTY MANAGER WOULD HAVE BEEN APPRISED OF IT.

IF HE DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT IT THEN WHY WOULD I ENCUMBER STAFF.

THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT HERE. SO FOR ME, WE'VE GOT A LOT GOING ON THAT CAN REALLY ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS -- THAT WE CAN FOCUS ON AND I'M OKAY WITH THERE BEING A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION IN THIS.

BUT FOR ALL THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT EFFICIENCY AND ALL THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT DOING WHAT WE WERE ELECTED TO DO, I HEAR YOU AND THAT'S WHAT I'M EMBARKING ON.

AND SO FOR ME, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING THAT CONVINCES ME TO

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ENCUMBER STAFF.

SO AGAIN, I'M NOT SEEING, I'M NOT SEEING THE EFFICIENCY HERE.

SO FOR ME IT'S A NO. >> ALL RIGHT.

>>> VERY GOOD. >>> I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO NIAGARA, NIAGARA, COMMISSIONER TALKED ABOUT 1,000 HOMES COULD HAVE BEEN IN THAT AREA INSTEAD OF NIAGARA.

SO IT'S THE SAME EXACT KINDS OF AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WOULD BE USED FROM THEM COMPARED TO A THOUSAND HOMES.

SO IT'S KIND OF -- YOU PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE A LITTLE BIT.

I THINK IF WE WERE ABLE TO DO A TOTAL BAN TONIGHT YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH GUARANTEE THERE WOULD BE THREE OF US VOTING ON IT.

I THINK YOU COULD FEEL CONFIDENT THAT ONCE RESEARCH IS DONE, YOU KNOW, THAT IS WHAT I WOULD BE FOR.

SO, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, DO WE?

>>> MOTION AND SECOND. >>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.

>>> ANY OPPOSED. >>> AYE.

>>> PASSES J. THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING.

>> CAN YOU CLAIM THE MORATORIUM PASSED.

>> THE MORATORIUM PASSED 4-1. >> YEAH.

[12. Presentation of Report to the Clay County Board of County Commissioners from the 2025-2026 Clay County Charter Review Commission and proposed Resolution acknowledging receipt of report approved by the 2025-26 Charter Review Commission including one proposed amendment to the Clay County Home Rule Charter, caling a special election, directing placement of referendum for the proposed amendment on the balot, and providing for publication of notice of the referendum as required under Section 100.342, Florida Statutes (C. Connor, Chair of 2025-26 CRC)]

>>> ALL RIGHT, PLEASE EXIT QUIETLY.

WE WILL MOVE BACK TO NUMBER 12. >>> PRESENTATION OF THE REPORT TO THE CLAY COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER FOR THE 2025-26 CLAY COUNTY CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AND PROPOSED RESOLUTION ACKNOWLEDGING RECEIPT OF REPORT APPROVED BY THE 2026 CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION INCLUDING ONE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE CLAY COUNTY CHARTER, CALLING A SPECIAL ELECTION DIRECTING PLACEMENT OF REFERENDUM FOR THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT ON THE BALLOT AND PROVIDING FOR PUBLICATION AND NOTICE OF THE REFERENDUM AS REQUIRED UNDER SECTION 100.342 AND WE HAVE OUR CHARTER REVIEW CHAIR.

>>> THANK YOU FOR STAYING. I KNOW THAT WAS HARD FOR YOU.

>> I'M SO GLAD YOU STARTED SPEAKING, I WASN'T SURE IF WE WERE GOING TO GO BACK TO IT BUT THAT'S WHY I STAYED IN ADDITION TO BE EDUCATED ON A NUMBER OF THINGS.

>>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER I HOPE YOU ALL HAD

A GOOD EVENING. >>> MY NAME IS COURTNEY CONNOR, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF SERVING AS CHAIR FOR 2024 LISTEN 2026 CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION. BEFORE I GET INTO THE VERY BRIEF REVIEW OF IT, I WANT TO EXTEND A THANK YOU TO COMMISSIONER WHO NOMINATED ME TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS YEAR'S CHARTER REVIEW.

I ALSO WANT TO SEND A HUGE THANK YOU TO OUR AD ACTIVE ASSISTANTS, TRACI AND CRISTINE WHO KEPT US GOING.

THEY TOOK CARE OF 99% OF THE WORK ON THIS CHARTER REVIEW.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE ALL JUST HAD TO SHOW UP AND TALK. SO, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU

FOR ALL OF THAT. >>> AND FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. IF I MAY JUST HAVE A MOMENT TO ANNOUNCE THEIR NAMES, THEY ALL DID A FANTASTIC JOLY STEVE ANDERSON, SUSAN CALLAHAN, MYSELF, BILL, LEN, RHONDA JET, [UNCLEAR] MAT MITCHELL, KRISTY PERRY, VAN ROYAL, BRANDON SALTER AND SHERRY WARREN ALL SERVED.

I THINK I -- MR. DALGADO ALSO SERVED AS A DELEGATE.

WE HAD OTHER -- SCOTTY TAYLOR WAS A DELL GATT.