[CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:10] PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION. IF YOU WILL BOW YOUR HEADS WITH ME. HEAVENLY FATHER WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS AFTERNOON LORD, WE HUMBLY PRESENT TO YOU AS A BODY COME AS A BOARD, LORD, ASKING YOU TO HAVE YOUR WAY HERE IN CLAY COUNTY. THANK YOU, GOD, FOR THE PRIVILEGE WE HAVE TO LIVE IN THIS AMAZING COUNTRY AND THIS GREAT STATE AND THIS BEAUTIFUL COUNTY. WE PRAY, LORD HIM EVERYTHING WE SAY AND DO BRINGS GLORY AND HONOR TO YOU. LORD, I THANK YOU FOR THIS SPECIAL COMMUNITY PARTNERS WHO WILL BE RECOGNIZED TODAY, LORD, THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN SO SELFLESS EVERY SACRIFICE, EVERY SLEEPLES NIGHT AND TIME AWAY FROM FAMILY AND FRIENDS BE AT BRIEF RECOGNIZE THOSE THINGS THOSE SACRIFICES THAT WE SAY THANK YOU , LORD, FOR AMAZING PEOPLE, DEDICATED PEOPLE WHO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF THIS COUNTY. AS WE GO ABOUT THE BUSINESS BEFORE US TONIGHT, I PRAY THAT YOU GIVE US AN UNDERSTANDING MIND AND A HEARING HEART TO DO WHAT WE OUGHT TO DO FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE WHO LIVE HERE. I THANK YOU FOR WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING IN THE NAME OF JESUS, I PRAY, AMEN. >> WE ARE HONORED TO HAVE THE FIRE RESCUE HONORED GUARD HERE TODAY TO PRESET THE COLORS AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I WILL ASK THE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PRESENTATION OF THE COLORS AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. CHIEF PETTY KEVIN KELLY IS LEAVING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANC TODAY. HE STARTED OVER 21 YEARS IN THE U.S. NAVY, STARTING ---RETIRING IN 2022. HE WORSE WORKED ON SQUADRONS AN UNITS. TO BUILD AND PAY FOR HIS COUNTRY . LEARNING NOT TO JUDGE OTHERS DURING THAT TOUGHEST OF TIMES TEACH THE BEST LESSONS. IT A HUMBLE VETERAN, HIS WORDS INCLUDE THE GLOBAL WAR ON TERRORISM, IRAQ CAMPAIGN MEDAL, NATO METAL AND TWO NAVY ACCOMMODATION METALS. WORKS AS A CONSTRUCTION INSPECTOR. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE T OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR COUNTRY AND IF YOU COULD NOW LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> ORDER ARMS. COLOR TURN MARCH. >> THANK YOU FOR HONORING ME TO COME HERE TODAY AND DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> PLEASE HAVE A SEED. [00:05:23] THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING FOR APRIL 28, 2026 IS CALLED ORDER. I HAVE ALL MY COMMISSIONERS HER [PET ADOPTIONS] TODAY. OUR FIRST CAT IS SHORT HAIR AND WEIGHS 8 POUNDS. GUS IS THE DEFINITION OF SOCIAL. HE WANTS TO BE WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE SUPERVISING YOUR TASK, ASSERTING HISELF AND THE CONVERSATIONS AND MAKING SURE YOU NEVER FEEL ALONE FOR EVEN A SECOND. LIKE MANY LARGE CATS THOUGH SHE IS A PLAYFUL GROOVY KIND THAT KEEPS LIFE INTERESTING BUT IF COMPANION THAT BRINGS JOY AND A WHOLE LOT OF ORANGE CAT CHARM, GUS IS YOUR GUY. NEXT WE HAVE A FEMALE MIXED BREED FIVE YEARS OLD WEIGHING 5. MEET PICK, THE TINY BIT OF JOY THAT YOU NEVER KNEW YOU NEEDED. THIS GIRL IS TINY BUT MIGHTY AN SHE ABSOLUTELY KNOWS THAT. SHE STARTS UP A LITTLE SHY BUT ONCE SHE DECIDES YOU ARE PART O HER INNER CIRCLE, SHE TRANSFORM INTO A FULL-BLOWN LOVE BUG WITH VIP LEVEL ENTHUSIASM COMPUTER SIGNATURE MOVE, HAPPY FEET TAP DANCE EVERY TIME HER FAVORITE HUMANS WALK INTO THE ROOM. IT'S LIKE BEING GREETED BY A VERY SMALL, VERY EXCITED BREE'S DEPTH WHO WAS THRILLED. NEXT WE HAVE CALYPSO, DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR AND WEIGHS 9 POUNDS. MEET CALYPSO PIGMENT MANY CALICO 'S, CALYPSO STARTS OFF A BIT SHY TAKING HER TIME TO DECIDE WHO IS WORTHY OF HER TRUST BUT ONCE SHE WARMS UP SHE REVEALS HER TRUE COLORS, PLAYFUL , EXPRESSIVE, AND FULL OF THAT CLASSIC CALICO CHARM PURCHASED KIND OF CAT WHO BONDS DEEPLY, SHOWS AFFECTION ON HER OWN TERMS AND BRINGS A DELIGHTFUL SWEETNESS AND SASS T ANY HOME. CALYPSO JUST NEEDS A PATIENT PERSON WHO APPRECIATES THE PERSONALITY A PERSONALITY AND A HEART THAT BEATS SLOWLY BUT BEAUTIFULLY. LASTLY WE HAVE DARRELL, A NEUTERED MALE AND WE 62 POUNDS, DOG WHO LOVES EVERYTHING WITH HIS WHOLE HEART AND SOUL. THE KING OF JOY JOEY'S -- AND SOMETIMES HIS PLACE THE LITTLE GUIDANCE OR DOES THE BLESSED FRIENDS WITH TOO MUCH ENTHUSIASM. HE IS SWEET AND READY TO LOVE YOU WITH THE INTENSITY OF A THOUSAND SUNS. IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A DOG WHO COMMITS FULLY DEFINED, FRIENDSHIP, DARRELL IS YOUR GUY. IF YOUR PARTY TO MEET YOUR NEW BEST FRIEND, ARE DOG ADOPTABLE' ARE WAITING FOR SOME EXTRA LOVE FROM WAKING TELLS TWO PURRING KITTIES CAN WE HAVE THE PERFECT OPINION JUST FOR YOU. YOU CAN HEAD TO OUR WEBSITE AND MEET OUR ADORABLE CREW LOOKING FOR THEIR FOREVER HOMES PREVIEW COULD DROP US A LINE AT CLAY ADOPTIONS AT CLAY COUNTY.COM AND YOU NEW BEST FRIEND IS JUST A CLICK AWAY. THE PICTURES YOU SEE OUR BOTTLE BABIES THAT ARE NEED OF A FOSTE HOME PAGE AND CALL THE SHELTER FOR MORE INFORMATION. WE ARE ALWAYS IN NEED OF FOSTER HOMES WHERE THEY CAN -- AND GET THE CARE THEY NEED UNTI THEY ARE READY FOR ADOPTION. COULD YOU PROVIDE A LOVING TEMPORARY HOME FOR ONE OF OUR FOSTER ANIMALS. IF SO PLEASE CONTACT US AT CLAY FOSTERS AT CLAY COUNTY .GOV AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN HELPING OUR FURRY FRIENDS YOU CAN'T BRING ONE HOME, PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT OUR AMAZON WISH LIST. WE ARE ALWAYS IN NEED OF ITEMS FOR THE SHELTER ANIMALS. JUST GO TO AMAZON.COM THAT COMPLETES OUR PET ADOPTIONS APPEARS. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. [SPECIAL STAFF RECOGNITION] >> WE WILL BEGIN WITH A MAY 1 ST RETIREMENT OF TWO OF FAR ASSISTANCE, MELODY TOMACELL AND SARAH THOGODE. AND ALSO ANY OF THERE FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND COWORKERS, PLEAS [00:10:02] COME UP FRONT. MELODY TOMACELLI BEGAN HER LIBRARY CAREER IN 21 IN THE CHILDREN'S DEPARTMENT AT THE MIDDLEBURG LIBRARY BECOMING FULL-TIME IN 2002. SHE SPENT 18 YEARS WORKING WITH CHILDREN AND IS CURRENTLY A LIBRARY ASSOCIATE 3 AND THE REFERENCE DEPARTMENT. KNOWN FOR HER OUTSTANDING WORK WITH CHILDREN, MISS MELODY IS A FAVORITE STORYTIME PRESENTER AN SHE CONSISTENTLY GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND FOR PATRONS. IN RETIREMENT SHE PLANS TO TRAVEL. SOUNDS AWESOME. THEN WE HAVE SARAH THOGODE PAY SHE BEGAN HER LIBRARY CAREER IN 2005 AS A REFERENCE SERVICES SUPERVISOR ASSISTING PATRONS WITH GENEALOGY AND RESEARCH. IN 2018 SHE BECAME A TECHNICAL SERVICES LIBRARIAN, FOCUSED ON CATALOGING AND INTERLIBRARY LOANS ADDED 2025 MOVED TO THE ORANGE COUNTY LIBRARY. KNOWN FOR HER GENEALOGY EXPERTISE AND DEDICATION TO PATRONS, SARAH CONSISTENTLY WEN THE EXTRA MILE TO FIND ANSWERS AND RESOURCES IN IN A RETIREE SHIP HAS TO SPEND MORE TIME WIT FAMILY AND TRAVEL. WE THINK BOTH OF YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND DEDICATION TO THE RESIDENCE OF CLAY COUNTY AND WE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST IN YOUR RETIREMENTS. [APPLAUSE] DIRECTOR REGINALD KANTOR IS GOING TO SHARE HERE. >> IS AN HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO STAND WITH THESE TWO WOMEN WHO HAVE WORKED OVER 45 YEARS OF SERVICE IN THIS PARTICULAR COUNTY. WITH AN ACCOUNTING THAT VALUES SERVICE AND SO DOES THE LIBRARY SYSTEM, SO I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. IT IS AMAZING AND EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE DAY IN AND DAY OUT FOR THE LEVELS AND THE SENIORS AND EVERYONE IN BETWEEN SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I WISH I WAS TRAVELING WITH YOU BUT I HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT RETIREMENT AND DO NOT FORGET US. PLEASE COME BACK AND VISIT. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. THE NOW WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE BUDGET MANAGER REGINALD KANTOR. WE'VE ALREADY PARTED WITH HIM EARLIER. SO ROOM FALL, HARRY POTTER AND ALL. THIS IS BRIDGET, HIS WIFE. HE JOINED US IN 2020 ENDS DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB OVER THE PAS FIVE PLUS YEARS. ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND FORMER DIRECTOR ARE HERE TO HELP US HONOR HIM. AS BUDGET MANAGER, EE PLAYED A KEY ROLL IN MAINTAINING VIP TABLES AND MAKING SURE WE WERE WERE WITH COMPLIANCE REGULATIONS . HE HAS A VERY COMPETITIVE CONTINUE. WE ARE TO HURT HONEST TRAVELER WERE EXCITED TO TACKLE HIS LIST AND SET UP HIS MAN CAVE. HIS HARD WORK AND DECORATION AN UNIQUE PERSONALITY WILL BE UNIQUELY BEST AND BE THANK YOU FOR SURE SURFACE TO CLAY COUNTY IN WHICH MOTHER PASSED IN RETIREMENT AND HE DID SUCH A GREAT JOB IN HELPING US SO WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL TO HIM. >> I CAN'T THINK ALL OF YOU [00:15:03] ENOUGH. I LIMITED IT TO ONE PAGE. I AM HUMBLED BY THE BOARD. THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN QUITE AN OPPORTUNIT TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER THAT WOULD BUILD ROADS ALONG WITH THAT JUST TO COVER THE DAY-TO-DAY COST OF GENERAL GOVERNMENT PUBLIC SAFETY AND TRANSPORTATION AND RECREATION. AND ALL THAT IS BUDGET SPEAK FO THE DIFFERENT UNCTION'S THAT GOVERNMENT PROVIDES I HAVE BEEN PART OF CLAY COUNTY JUST THREE MONTHS SHORT OF SIX YEARS AND I THAT TIME I'VE BECOME FAMILIAR WITH LEARNING MUNICIPALITIES ALSO BECOME MAYOR WITH SO MANY OF CLAY COUNTY GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES THAT EXPERIENCE WEDDINGS, GRADUATIONS, PROFESSIONAL AND PERSONAL ACHIEVEMENTS AND RETIREMENTS AN SADLY SOME ILLNESS AND DEPTH. AND THE PORTS, LIFE. WE SPENT MOST OF OUR WAKING HOURS TOGETHER TO GET THIS COUNTY THROUGH ANOTHER DAY AND WE ENJOY CELEBRATING TOGETHER ESPECIALLY AT CHRISTMAS TIME WITH HOLIDAY TREATS AND AWARDS. SO FIRST AND FOREMOST I WANT TO THANK MY WIFE, BRIDGET, WHO GRACIOUSLY HELD DOWN THE FORT DURING MY TIME AT CLAY SHE IS M THERAPIST DURING OUR MARK NIGHTLY PHONE CALLS AND I WANT TO THANK OUR COUNTY MANAGER PICKETT DID NOT EXPECT TO GET T KNOW THE COUNTY MANAGER BRAZENL ANY I'VE EXPERIENCED IT HE SHARED -- STYLE THAT HE HAS EMBRACED AND LIFE ON AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER WIT MANY STORIES AND THE LINGO SUCH AS FOLLOWING THE STAIRWELL AND AS WELL AS -- ALTHOUGH I'VE NEVER BEEN A NAVA AVIATOR, MUCH LESS EVEN A PILOT. HE GAVE ME THE NAME BAGS, SHORT FORM MONEYBAGS. NEXT TO WANT TO NOT I THINK THE COMMISSIONERS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS BUT ESPECIALLY THOSE IN DEPARTMENTS THAT HANDLE DETAILS AND PROCESSING THE WORK. I HAVE LEARNED FROM THESE SUBJECT MATTERS ON REVENUE STREAMS THAT A BUDGET CANNOT BE BUILT WITHOUT YOUR INPUT PARADISE FOR SUPPORT THANK THE BUDGET ANALYST WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED SO MUCH AND PROVIDE SOPHISTICATED ANALYSIS TO GET AHEAD OF PROBLEMS THAT CAN BE TAKEN. WAY TO GO. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT A FEW PEOPLE AT A BEEN WITH ME THROUG MOST OF THIS RIDE. FIRST, ANGELA PICKETT WAS JUST ANGELA AND ME FINISHING OUT OF BUDGET FOR THE FIRST SEPTEMBER BUDGET HEARING AND SHE PREPARED DOCUMENTS AS WELL AS THE PAPER ADVERTISEMENT SHE'S KEPT ME ON COURSE SINCE THEN PAID SECOND LISA LISA HAS BEEN QUITE FRANKL A DYNAMO. HER DECADES WITH THE CLERK OF THE COMMISSIONERS OUT OF PROVIDED UNMATCHED INSTITUTIONA KNOWLEDGE SHE WAS THE BALANCE O THE WORKDAY AND SHE MADE MY SUCCESS WITH THE BUDGET POSSIBLE , ALL WITH A SENSE OF HUMOR. I MUST THANK THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGIG ME HERE AND MANAGED TO RETIRE BEFORE ME DEBBIE. SHE IS KIND ENOUGH TO BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON TO GIVE HER CONGRATULATIONS IN-PERSON COMPUTER MANAGEMENT STYLE ALLOWED ME TO THRIVE SHE RESEARCHED ANY ISSUE IN KEPT TRACK OF EVERY STEP THROUGH MES STARTS AND STOPS, ALL WITH A SENSE OF HUMOR. A BUDGET ADAGE IS YOU HAVE TO LAUGH ALONG THE WAY BECAUSE PUTTING A BUNCH TOGETHER IS LIK AN ONION, IT WILL MAKE YOU CRY. SO WITH THAT I HAVE THE LYRICS TO A SONG YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH, SOME WERE FROM YOUNGER WHEN I THOUGHT THEY WERE. FROM THE CAROL BURNETT SHOW PAYGO'S ED ADAIR FREE SHOW WITH THIS SONG. YOU CAN SEE IT IF YOU'D LIKE. I NEED YOUR HELP. I'M SO GLAD WE HAD THIS TIME TOGETHER JUST TO HAVE A LAUGH O SEES IT SEEMS WE JUST GET STARTED AND BEFORE WE KNOW IT, IT'S TIME WE HAVE TO SAY SO LONG . [APPLAUSE] I JUST HAVE A QUICK STORY. I CAME IN ONE BRIGHT AND SUNNY MONDAY MORNING AND AHEAD OF [00:20:01] RESUME DELIVERED TO ME AND I TOOK A LOOK AT IT AND IT WAS FO A PERSON WHO HAD DONE BUDGET FO 28 YEARS I WAS STUNNED. I LITERALLY PICKED UP THE PHONE WITHOUT PASSING OR ANYTHING AND I MADE A PHONE CALL AND FOUND OUT HE HAD JUST APPLIED FOR THE JOB FRIDAY EVENING. HE HADN'T EVEN HAD TIME TO LOOK TO SEE WHERE CLAY COUNTY IS BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T KNOW REGGIE , HE WAS FROM FOUR COUNTY MYERS -- FORT MYERS, FLORIDA. THAT KEPT THEIR HOUSE IN LEE COUNTY AND IS LOVELY WIFE, WHO WE COULD NIP DONE WITHOUT THIS ALSO APPRECIATE APPRECIATE REMAINED IN LEE COUNTY AND TRIE TO HAS BEEN AN APARTMENT HAS BEEN A POWERHOUSE. UNBELIEVABLE. HE IS ONE-OF-A-KIND AND I CAN'T THANK HIM ENOUGH BUT I CAN'T THINK BRIDGET IS NOT FOR EVERYTHING THEY HAVE DONE FOR US . THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU SAID BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I LEARNED A LOT FROM YOU TOO AND I'VE ENJOYED SHARING MY OFFICE WITH YOU. YOUR MY BIG BROTHER AND YOU ARE LIKE FAMILY AND YOU DON'T NEED WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE AT WORK THOUGH SHE DON'T MEET A LOT OF PEOPLE AT WORK LIKE THAT. I WISH YOU GUYS THE BEST. HAVE FUN WITH YOUR TRAVEL AND FAMILY INCOME SEE US AGAIN, PLEASE. SO WE HAVE THREE PROCLAMATIONS [1. National Law Enforcement Appreciation Week/National Police Week- (May 10-16, 2026)] TODAY PUT OUR FIRST IS LAW-ENFORCEMENT APPRECIATION WEEK. MADE TEN TO 16, 2026, TYPED OUT OF THEIR COURAGE, COMMITMENT, AND SACRIFICES OF THE OFFICERS WHO PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITIES SAFE. WE ALSO RECOGNIZE MAY 15 AS MEMORIAL WEEK AND THE CEREMONY, SOLEMN OCCASION -- GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT UP HERE THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO KEEP SPEAKING WHAT YOU ARE WALKING. SO MAY 7, 2026, POLICE MEMORIAL WEEK CEREMONY. A SOLEMN OCCASION TO HONOR A MEMBER THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO HAVE PAID THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE AND LINE OF DUTY PAID WERE HONORED TO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES HERE TODAY WITH THE COUNTY SHERIFFS OFFICE OF THE ORANGE PARK POLICE DEPARTMENT AT THE FLORIDA HIGHWAY PATROL. ALSO HONORED TO HAVE US TODAY DONNA SIEGEL, THE WIFE OF FALLE CEO DEPUTY EAGLE. AFTER WE READ THE PROCLAMATION, WE WILL BRIEF FOR MICS FROM OUR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. >> I TOLD COMMISSIONER CONDIT SHE'S IN THE SAFEST SPOT IN CLA COUNTY RIGHT NOW THE PROCLAMATION READS WHERE IS OUR COMMUNITY RECOGNIZES THE RESPONSIBILITIES, RISKS, AND DAILY SACRIFICES OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO PROTEC THE PUBLIC, UPHOLD THE LAW, AND PRESERVE PEACE, AND WE HONOR THEIR INTEGRITY, COURAGE, AND COMMITMENT AND AS ROLL MODELS, MENTORS, AND GUARDIANS FOR THOS IN NEED. AND WHEREAS, IN TIMES OF [00:25:04] UNCERTAINTY THE DEDICATED MEN AND WOMEN OF THE CLAY COUNTY SHERIFFS OFFICE, THE ORANGE PAR AND GREEN COVE SPRINGS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FLORIDA HIGHWAY PATROL CONTINUED TO MEE CHALLENGES WITH PROFESSIONALISM AND RESOLVE, STANDING STEADFAST IN CRISIS TO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF ALL CLAY COUNTY RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. WHEREAS NATIONAL LAW ENFORCEMEN LAW-ENFORCEMENT APPRECIATION WEEK OBSERVED MAY 10-16, 2026, PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE AND THANK THOSE OFFICERS WHO SERVE WITH UNWAVERING DEDICATION, COURAGE, AND PROFESSIONALISM,. AND WHEREAS, POLICE MORRILL DAY OBSERVED ON MAY 15, 2026, CALLS UPON US TO HONOR AND REMEMBER THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WH HAVE MADE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFIC IN THE LINE OF DUTY, TO REFLECT UPON THEIR SERVICE AND SACRIFICE . AND WHEREAS, THE CLAY COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WISHES TO RECOGNIZE THAT 2026 POLICE EMORIAL WEEK CEREMONY TO BE HELD ON MAY 7, 2026, AT MOOS HAVEN, AS A PROFOUND AND MEANINGFUL LOCATION TO HONOR TH COURAGE, SACRIFICE, AND UNWAVERING DEDICATION OF THOSE OFFICERS WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES I FAITHFUL SERVICE TO THE CITIZEN OF CLAY COUNTY, ENSURING THEY ARE NEVER FORGOTTEN. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 10-16, 2026, AS LAW-ENFORCEMENT APPRECIATION WEEK IN CLAY COUNTY AND EXTENDS OUT DEEP BUT IS GRATITUDE AND APPRECIATION TO ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FOR THEIR STEADFAST DEDICATION TO PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY AND PRESERVING PEACE. DULY ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, THIS 20TH DAY OF APRIL, 2026. DO I HAVE A MOTION, AND A SECOND . ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE IT IS OFFICIALLY IN THE RECORD BOOKS. >> ON BEHALF OF SHARE -- SHARE KOKOMO THINK FOR THE SPECIAL PROCLAMATION AT A HEARTFELT TIME BUT I JUST CAME BACK FROM TALLAHASSEE YESTERDAY AND SAW THE NEW OFFICERS NAMES ADDED TO THE STATE MEMORIAL THA LOST THEIR LIVES THIS YEAR AND WERE THANKFUL THAT CLAY COUNTY DIDN'T LOSE ANYBODY WERE PART O THE WORK WE DO WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PARTNERS HERE TO KEEP TH COMMUNITIES SAFE WERE THANKFUL THAT WE GET TO DO IT AND WE APPRECIATE FIRST RESPONDERS. PEARSALL THINK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] ON BEHALF OF THE GREEN COAST SPRINGS POLICE DEPARTMENT, THANKS FOR INVITING US TODAY. BE APPRECIATED. [APPLAUSE] >> ON BEHALF OF THE ORANGE PARK POLICE DEPARTMENT, THANK YOU FO INVITING US HERE AND WE GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. >> ANYBODY ELSE? [INDISCERNIBLE] NEXT WE HAVE NATIONAL [2. National Fallen Firefighters Memorial Weekend (May 2-3, 2026)] FIREFIGHTER MEMORIAL WEEKEND, MAY 2-3 IS THE MEMORIAL WEEKEND. A TIME TO HONOR THE BRAVERY AND ULTIMATE SEGUES OF FIREFIGHTERS WHO DIED IN THE LINE OF DUTY. PLEASE JOIN US UPFRONT EVEN [00:30:02] THOUGH IT IS LATER ON IN THIS PARAGRAPH. THEY ARE MOVING ALREADY. WE WELCOME OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND PERSONAL THAT ARE HERE TODAY INCLUDING FIRE FIREFIGHTERS FRO STATION 20. WE ARE ALSO HONORED TO WELCOME TONYA MCKAY, FIREFIGHTER ENGINEER JEREMY MCKAY. EGYPT THOUSANDS GATHER IN MARYLAND TO PAY TRIBUTE TO MAKE THESE HEROES AND SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES AND OUR LOCAL HONOR GUARD MEMBERS THAT THE PRIVILEG OF TAKING PART IN THIS SOLEMN CEREMONY IN PAST YEARS. AFTER HE READ THE PROCLAMATION WE WILL HEAR FROM THE FIRE CHIE AND ASSISTANT MANAGER ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE MEMORIAL WEEKEND AND WE ALSO WELCOME ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. WHEREAS FIREFIGHTERS AND EMERGENCY SERVICES PERSONNEL ACROSS OUR NATION'S BRAVELY AND SELFLESSLY ANSWER THE CALL TO PROTECT LIFE, PROPERTY, AND THE SAFETY OF THEIR COMMUNITIES OFTEN AT GREAT PERSONAL RISK. AND WHEREAS, THESE COURAGEOUS MEN AND WOMEN STAND ON THE FRON LINES OF EMERGENCIES FACING FIRE , DISASTER, AND DANGER WITH UNWAVERING DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT. AND WHEREAS, WE HONOR THE MEMOR OF THOSE FIREFIGHTERS WHO HAVE MADE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE IN THE LINE OF DUTY, GIVING THEIR LIVES IN SERVICE TO OTHERS. AND WHEREAS, THE NATIONAL FALLE FIREFIGHTERS MEMORIAL WEEKEND PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR NATION TO COME TOGETHER IN SOLEMN REMEMBRANCE, RECOGNIZING THE HEROISM, COURAGE, AND SACRIFICE OF FALLEN FIREFIGHTER AND OFFERING SUPPORT TO THEIR FAMILIES, FRIENDS, AND COLLEAGUES. AND WHEREAS, IT IS APPROPRIATE AND DESERVING TO HONOR THE 97 FIREFIGHTERS WHO LOST THEIR LIVES IN 2025 COME ALONG WITH 107 FROM PREVIOUS YEARS WHO WER RECOGNIZED AT THE NATIONAL FIRE -- NATIONAL FALLEN FIREFIGHTER MEMORIAL TO ENSURE THAT THEIR LEGACY ENDURES IN THE HEARTS OF THE COMMUNITIES THEY SERVE IN THE NATION BASIL FAITHFULLY PROTECTED. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 2-3, 2026 AS FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS MEMORIAL WEEKEND I CLAY COUNTY AND ENCOURAGES ALL CITIZENS TO HONOR THE MEMORY OF FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS AND TO RECOGNIZE THE FAITHFUL, COURAGEOUS, AND INVALUABLE SURFACE OF FIRE AND EMERGENCY PERSONNEL PAST AND PRESENT THROUGH ACTS OF REMEMBRANCE, GRATITUDE AND RESPECT. AND BUY THEM A MEAL, THAT WOULD BE NICE TOO. DULY ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, THIS 28TH DAY OF 20226 DRY HAVE A MOTION. ALL UNANIMOUS. MADAM CHAIR IMPORTED ONTO COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU SO MUC FOR THIS VERY SPECIAL RECOGNITION FOR GOING INTO THE WEEKEND THAT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE AND I SHOULD SHARE WITH MY FELLOW POLICE OFFICERS OVER THERE THESE WEEK IT'S ALL ABOUT FIRST RESPONDERS AND THOSE THAT PAY THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE AND SURFACE FOR THEIR COMMUNITY PRETTY ALSO HAVE GOT TO REMEMBER FOR EVERY NAME THAT'S OUT THERE THERE IS A FAMILY THERE IS A CREW WHEN THERE IS A COMMUNITY THAT IS BEHIND EVERYONE OF THEM REALLY APPRECIATE SO MUCH YOUR RECOGNITION OF THIS PROCLAMATIO AND FOR ANYBODY LIKE TO WATCH THIS YEAR CEREMONY FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, IT IS ON MADE 2-3 AND YOU CAN GO TO WEEKEND FIRE HERO.ORG. THAT HIS WEEKEND DIE FIRE HERO .ORG. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL CEREMONY IF IT THAT WE HAVE VERY SPECIAL GUEST WITH US MISSED TONYA MCKAY. >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR RECOGNIZING AND HONORING THE FIRED -- THE FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS AND I WANT IT TO DC TOOTH THAT MEMORIAL, THE NATIONAL FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS FOUNDATION HAS A LIGHT THE NIGHT READ OF THIS GOING ON NOW THROUGH MAY 302 SUPPORT FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS AND THEIR FAMILIES. >> I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER MYSELF. [00:35:21] [APPLAUSE] SMALL BUSINESS MONTH OBSERVED [3. National Small Business Month (May 2026)] EACH WEEK OBSERVES CONTRIBUTION TO LOCAL ECONOMIES. AND HIGHLIGHTING THEIR ROLE IN FOSTERING INNOVATION COME, AND SUPPORTING OUR COMMUNITY. WE WELCOME SENIOR BUSINESS CONSULTANT DIRECTING DEBBIE FRO THE SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER AT THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH FLORIDA ALONG WITH THE PURPOSE OF OTHERS FROM THE CLAY CHAMBER AND MEMBERS OF OUR LOCA COMMUNITY TO PLEASE JOIN US UPFRONT FOR THE PROCLAMATION. IT IS MY HONOR PRIVILEGE TO REA THIS PROCLAMATION. I'LL DO THAT RIGHT NOW. WHEREAS THE NATIONAL SMALL BUSINESS MONTH CELEBRATED EACH MAY MAY CROSS COUNTRY HONORS TH IMPORTANT ROLE ENTREPRENEURS AN AMERICA'S 36 MILLION SMALL BUSINESSES AND STARTUPS PLAY IN SUPPORTING AND STRENGTHENING THEIR COMMUNITIES EVERY DAY. AND WHEREAS, FROM MAIN STREET STOREFRONTS TO CUTTING-EDGE TEC STARTUPS, SMALL BUSINESSES MAKE UP 99% OF ALL US BUSINESSES, EMPLOY MORE THAN 63 MILLION PEOPLE, AND ARE ESSENTIAL TO TH NATION'S ECONOMIC HEALTH. AND WHEREAS THE STATE OF FLORID CONTINUES TO BE AN IDEAL PLACE TO START AND GROW A SMALL BUSINESS DUE TO ITS BUSINESS FRIENDLY CLIMATE, LOW TAX BURDEN , AND STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE. AND WHEREAS, FLORIDA RANKS AMON THE NATIONS LEADING STATES FOR SMALL BUSINESS ACTIVITY WITH APPROXIMATELY 3-POINT 5 MILLION SMALL BUSINESSES REPLACING -- REPRESENTING 99.8% OF ALL BUSINESSES IN THE STATE AND EMPLOYING MORE THAN 3-POINT 8 MILLION FLORIDIANS. AND WHEREAS, SMALL BUSINESSES GREAT JOBS, STRENGTHEN OUR LOCA ECONOMY COME, AND DRIVE INNOVATION AND RESILIENCE AND I CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, FOR THEY ACCOUNT FOR 40% OF ALL BUSINESSES, RESIDENTS ACTIVELY SUPPORT THEM FOR THE JOBS THEY PROVIDE, THE ECONOMIC VITALITY THEY SHAPE, AND THE UNIQUE CULTURE THEY PRESERVE NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, DOES YOUR BIKE LOOK PROCLAIM MAY 2020 SUCCESSFUL SI SMALL BUSINESS MONTH IN CLAY COUNTY. IN DOING SO WE COMMEND THE OUTSTANDING WORK BEING DONE BY THE SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER AT THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH FLORIDA, COGGIN COLLEGE O BUSINESS, IN SUPPORTING AND STRENGTHENING CLAY COUNTY SMALL BUSINESS AGREE TO GET BETTER COMMUNITY ALL OF US. DULY ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, THIS 28TH DAY OF MAY, 2026. SO I WANT TO GIVE JOHN-YOU CAN TALK FIRST. >> JOHN, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE YO FIRST BECAUSE EVE DONE AN AMAZING THING, YOU BROUGHT ALL 700 UP YOUR CHAMBER MEMBERS HER TONIGHT. I THINK YOU DROPPED A COUPLE. YOU NEED TO REJOIN. [00:40:02] THANK YOU, COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS NEVER BUT HERE TONIGHT HOWARD AND STAFF HERE. WE SURE APPRECIATE WHAT THE STAFF DOES AND WE SUPPORT THE CHAMBER AND SMALL BUSINESSES IN CLAY COUNTY AND LARGE BUSINESSE ALL I CAN SAY THANK YOU AND IT' AN HONOR TO BE A MEMBER OF THE CHAMBER AND THE OLD THEATER. WITH GOT A GREAT TEAM THAT ALL WANT TO SAY TO YOU IS REMEMBER THAT EVERY DIME YOU SPEND IN CLAY COUNTY BUSINESSES COMES RIGHT BACK AGAIN TO YOU AND YOU FAMILIES. AND IF THAT COMES BACK TO US IF WE SPEND IT ON AMAZON OR ONLINE. I'M NOT SORRY TO SAY THAT BUT I'M SO PROUD TO BE UP HERE AND HONOR EVERYBODY TODAY. >> WE JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT TO DO BUT I WANTED TO SAY THANKS VERY MUC TO NOT ONLY THE CHAMBER FOR ALWAYS BEING SUPPORTIVE OF EVERYTHING WE DO. THEY'VE THEY'VE BEEN AN AMAZING PARTNER AND ALSO THE LIBRARY SYSTEM HAS BEEN GREAT FOR CLASSES TO PARTNER WITH US AS WELL AS MY HANDLERS BUT THEY ALWAYS KEEP ME IN LINE TO MAKE SURE I DID THE RIGHT THING AND THAT COMMISSIONERS PRETTY ROUGH ON US SAY THAT YOUR SUPPORT OF SMALL BUSINESSES WHY I AM HERE AND YOUR CONSTANT DIRECTIVE OF GET OUT AND DO EVERYTHING YOUR POWER TO HELP THEM SUCCEED IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO EVERY SINGLE DAY THAT WE ARE HERE. WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO BE HERE BECAUSE CLAY COUNTY, I'VE NEVER WORKED AT A BETTER COUNTY THAT IS SO SUPPORTIVE OF SMALL BUSINESS SEVEN GLAD TO BE HERE SO THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE PROCARE ALLOTTED PAS YEAR AND WE HAVE EVOLVED FOR IT IS HERE WE HAVE GARY AND CLAY WITH MAX CONSTRUCTION AND TRUST ENVIRONMENTAL. HE'S ONE OF VOLUNTEER AWARD WINNERS. ORANGE PARK WOMEN'S CLUB. WE HAVE JENNIFER WITH SENIOR HELPERS, CHERYL WITH HOME VIDEO STUDIO. I'M FORGETTING ALL THE NAMES. JACKIE HALE. THERE YOU GO WE HAVE EUGENE TURTLE ROCK PET SITTING. WE HAVE PAM WITH BETTER HOMES & GARDENS IN CLAY. SHE IS A CPA AND THEN HELENA IS ALWAYS HERE WITH US AND THEN TH MAN HIMSELF PAID DAVE KANE. WAS I MISSING SOMEBODY ELSE. HE IS THAT PROCARE LAUDED PAST. SO WE HAVE TO STATE WINNERS THA ARE OUT OF CLAY COUNTY FOR S BD BUSINESSES FOR THE YEAR WITH TH VETERAN OWNED BUSINESS, WHICH I -- AND RYAN CLARK ONE THAT. AND THEN BE PLEASANT THOUGH RURAL BUSINESS OF THE STATE FOR THE YEAR AND THAT IS A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT THAT TWO WINNERS IN THE SAME COUNTY IS A LOT IN THERE BOTH CHAMBER MEMBERS. I'M GLAD TO SAY THAT AS WELL. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO TALK. ANYBODY THE TEAM WILL COME UP FROM AFLAC. [00:45:59] THERE HERE TWO PRESENT THE CHEC AND GUARD TO OUR FITNESS WALL. SO I WILL TURN THE PHONE OVER T YOU. >> MY NAME IS BRIAN SHANE WITH AFLAC AND THIS IS DAN GREEN. WERE HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY TO HELP PARTICIPATE. YOU HAVE BEEN A GREAT PARTNERSHIP FOR A LOT OF DECADE AND WE HOPE TO CONTINUE THAT RELATIONSHIP. WHEN EVER WE CAN BE PART OF THINGS LIKE THIS WE WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT FOR YOU GUYS. [APPLAUSE] [APPLAUSE] WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR [CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS] OFFICERS. DOES ANYBODY AT THE SHERIFFS OFFICE APATHY THING. AND I KNOW WE HAVE JUDGE WINSTO HERE TODAY. THINK USE MUCH FOR COMING. FOR JUDGE COMEAU COME ABOARD YO WANTING TO COME UP. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AND CALLING ME OUT OF ORDER. THAT IS ALWAYS APPRECIATED. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 11, THE TRUEPORT AND TRY FIVE TECHNOLOGY. -- TRUESCAN TECHNOLOGY. WERE DOING A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT AT THE COURTHOUSE AND ONE ASPEC THAT IS IMPROVING THE SECURITY AND MAKING THE CURRENT EXIT AND ENTRANCE JUST IN ENDS TRENDS IN MOVING THE EXIT FURTHER DOWN TH HALLWAY AND THAT WILL ALLOW MOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND BEASTS AND . AND FOR MY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND SECURITY EXPERTS THAT MAKES IT SAFER PLACE AND THE NEED TO GET A BULLETPROOF GLASS THAT KEEPS ANY DANGEROUS PERSON CONTAINED IN THE LOBBY AREA. ANOTHER ASPECT IS THE METAL DETECTOR. IT NEEDS TO BE UPGRADED AND WE'VE GOT SOME DUE DILIGENCE AN THAT I SEE THE CHIEF JUDGE AND -- WOULD COME ACROSS THIS TECHNOLOGY SEMINAR AND WE'VE HA THE PERSONAL FROM THE COMPANY COME IN AND DEMONSTRATE IT FOR US AT LEAST ONCE, MAYBE TWICE NOW THEY HAVE COME DOWN AND SHOWED US HOW IT WORKED AND THEY'VE DONE IT A FEW TIMES AS WELL AND THEN WE DID A ROAD TRI COMING MAY KNOW ABOUT THAT. ALONG WITH THE CHIEF JUDGE IN OUR IT PERSON, TAYLOR AND GENE COME ALL WENT DOWN TO ST. PETERSBURG A FEW WEEKS AGO IN EARLY FEBRUARY TO WHERE THEI [00:50:02] FACTORY IS AND HOW TO WALK THROUGH FOR MOST OF THE DAY TO SEE HOW IT WORKS AND WE WERE IMPRESSED WITH IT. IT CERTAINLY DOES WHAT WANT OUR CURRENT SYSTEM DOES BUT IT DOES IT BETTER, I THINK. FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU WERE TO WALK INTO OUR COURTHOUSE NOW AND HAD A PISTOL, STANDARD PISTOL, HOPEFULLY OUR SYSTEM WOULD DETECT THAT. THAT IS WHAT IT IS DESIGNED TO DO IT HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE THE '70S BUT IF YOU WERE TO WALK INTO OUR COURTHOUSE WITH CARBON -BASED WEAPON OR EVEN WITH THE GUN, THEY DIDN'T MAKE THOSE BAC IN THE '70S. OUR CURRENT SYSTEM WOULD NOT DETECT THAT. BECAUSE IT IS BASED ON METALS AND SOME OF THESE WEAPONS NOW ARE NOT MADE BY THAT SAME MATERIAL. THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY IS DESIGNED TO. THAT -- PICK THAT UP AND THERE'S SOME ABNORMALITIES ON HOW IT FITS IN YOUR CLOSE AND EVEN CERTAIN PERCENTAGES TELLS YOU WHAT THEY THINK IT IS SO IT IMPROVES SECURITY. IT IS NOT PERFECT BUT IT IS A BETTER SYSTEM THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW PAID FOR TRYING TO GET IT DONE AND ALL THE COURTHOUSES IN THE CIRCUIT AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE HERE. SO THE NUTS AND BOLTS, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON BUT IF YOU ASK ME GENERAL QUESTIONS, I WILL TRY TO ANSWER THEM. >> ARE WE THE FIRST IN THE REGION HERE TO IMPLEMENT XONAR TECHNOLOGY, INC. >> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION I HAVE BEEN SAYING XONAR. WE MIGHT BE THE FIRST. OTHERS ONGOING NEGOTIATIONS WIT THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE AND TH CHIEF VERY MUCH WANTS IT THERE AND WE MAY BE THEM TO THE PUNCH AND WE MAY BE THE FIRST BUT THE WILL BE CLOSE TOGETHER, I THINK FROM MY UNDERSTANDING. AND IT IS A TWO-YEAR LEASE. IF WE DON'T LIKE IT OR SOMEHOW YOU WANT TO CHANGE DIRECTIONS, WE ARE NOT LOCKED INTO IT. THANKS FOR COMING TODAY. QUICK QUESTION ABOUT WITH THE NEW TECHNOLOGY THROUGH YOUR RESEARCH, I GUESS MY QUESTION I HOW FAR SEPARATED IS THAT FROM WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY USING IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE SAME KIND OF TECHNOLOGY. >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE CURRENT SYSTEM WE HAVE NOW IS THE BASIC METAL DETECTORS THAT ALL HAVE USED OUR WHOLE LIVES PRETTY DOESN'T DO MORE THAN THA SO THE EXAMPLE WOULD BE SOME CARBON -BASED OR NON-ALUMINUM -BASED WEAPON WHICH THERE ARE PLENTY THAT WE COULD BRING IN AND NOBODY WOULD KNOW ABOUT IT. THERE'S EVEN GUNS THAT YOU CAN HAVE CREATED IT MAY BE ON THE ONE SHOT TO USE THAT ONE GUN TO SHOOT, THAT ITS APPEAL PROBLEMS HE DON'T NEED TO SNEAK IN A GUN THAT HAS 20 ROUNDS AT. GOT TO USE SNEAK IN A GUN THAT HAS ONE ROUND IN IT AND THEY CA DO A LOT OF DAMAGE BUT THAT IS ONE OF THINGS RETURNING TO PREVENT FROM HAPPENING. WHEN YOU GO TO DISNEY WORLD, IT IS NOTXONOR BUT IT IS CLOSE TO THAT. I WAS SCANNED IN SEARCH AND NOBODY ELSE I THOUGHT WHAT'S GOING ON. AND THEY FINALLY FORGET YOUR GLASSES CASE, I WOULD TAKE OFF MY CLASSES AND PUT MY SUNGLASSE AND THEY HAD AN ABNORMAL SHAPE IN MY SHIRT THAT IS NOT WHEN IT WAS BUT IT SHOWED SOMETHING THA CAUSED THEM TO HAVE CONCERN OF THE PULLED ME ASIDE TO SEARCH NICE EFFECTS TO BE WITH YOU JUS HOLD YOUR GLASSES CASE AND SHOWED THEM WHAT THIS AND YOU WILL BE PULLED APART AND SEARCHED AND THAT IS WHAT I DID. SO IT DOES GENERALLY WHAT OUR CURRENT SYSTEM DOES BUT IT IS MUCH MORE ADVANCED. THIS SYSTEM THAT XONAR HAS, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, WHICH I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THE WORD BUT IT PICKS UP HOW TO DETECT MORE AND MORE WEAPONS AND WERE DOWN THERE THEY HAD A COUPLE OF GUYS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THEY PAID THEM, TO WALK AROUND WITH DIFFERENT WEAPONS, PLASTIC KNIVES WALK TO THEIR SYSTEM FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS AN THE SYSTEM WAS LEARNING TO DETECT DIFFERENT TYPES OF WEAPONS IN DIFFERENT PLACES ON PERSONS BODY SO IF IT'S NOT IN REAL LIFE WOULD BE ABLE TO SAY WE THINK IT'S A 75% CHANCE THIS IS A GUN IN THIS BAG OR WEAPON. [00:55:10] ANYTHING ELSE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. I APPRECIATE IT. >> PEOPLE MOVE ON TWO APPROVAL [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] OF MINUTES. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTIO TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING FROM APRIL 14, 2026. >> I SECOND THE MOTION PAYS. >> I HAVE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I WILL MOVE ONTO OUR FIRST [PUBLIC COMMENTS] PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS DESIGNED TO ALLOW OPPORTUNITY TO BRING MATTERS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOARD PAID AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL NOT ENGAGE IN DEBATE OR ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU CAN E-MAIL AT CLA COUNTY .GOV OR YOU MAY E-MAIL YOUR DISTRICT COMMISSIONER. PUBLIC, CARS ARE PLACED AT THE ENTRANCE AND ARE ON THE FAR LEFT . YOUR ARTISTES LIMIT YOUR COMMEN TO THREE MEN SPEWED BEFORE ADDRESSING THE BOARD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. AND MY FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT IS STEVE VAN ZANDT. >> GOOD EVENING. TYPICALLY PEOPLE COME UP HERE AND HAVE A NEGATIVE, BRING SOME NEGATIVE VIBES TO ALL AND I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING MORE POSITIVE. EXTEND MY APPRECIATION EFFORTS TO LEADERS IN THIS ORGANIZATION. MORE SPECIFICALLY TOWARDS ALL O OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED A FEW TIMES TONIGHT I'M NOT GOING TO GET ON MY HORSE ON THAT PART BUT MORE SPECIFICALLY I WANT TO BRING ATTENTION TO THE COORDINATION THAT I WITNESSED BRIDWELL APPRECIATE THE FIRE SERVICES OU THERE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES THAT HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FIRES I OUR AREA AND ALL THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES AT DIFFERENT LEVELS OF STATE AND COUNTY AND ALL THAT BUT I WANTED TO BRING ATTENTION TO THE TREND TO HAVE COMMUNITY. I WAS MOTIVATED AND CALLED TO -- BY SHERIFF COOK. I FOLLOWED HER IN SOCIAL MEDIA AND SOME OF THE STUFF OUT THERE SHOULD SHE POST IS HILARIOUS AN I'VE GOT SOME FAMILY MEMBERS AN OTHER FRIENDS TO JOIN ME AND I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED BY IS HOW MUCH PEOPLE HAVE PUT OUT THERE FOR DONATIONS ON THE COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS. WE WENT OUT THERE AND PUT SOME STUFF OUT THERE FOR THEM TO TAK AND I JUST HAD ASK THEM SOME QUESTIONS LIKE I JUST GOT AN IDEA, HOW MUCH ARE YOU ALL GETTING AND I DIDN'T SEE HOW MUCH WITHOUT THE BUT I IMAGINE THERE WAS ENOUGH. I WAS TAKEN BACK BY HOW MUCH PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT THIS AND THE FIREFIGHTERS TO USE DEVELOPMENT I THINK THEY HAVE PLENTY TO FILL THE COFFERS FOR THE NEXT EMERGENCY SITUATION. HOPE TO BE DEALT WITH IS QUITE BIT OUT THERE. THAT IS ALL I WANT TO BRING IS BRING THAT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE COMMUNITY. I AM VERY IMPRESSED WITH ALL THAT SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MY ADDRESS IS 2839 BRIDGE CROSSING COURT, 32043. AGAIN, JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE STAFF AND I BETTY'S HELP AND ASSISTANCE WIT ROWAN HILLS AND SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH. IT IS OFFICIAL THAT THEY HAVE SIGNED THE PAPERWORK AND OFER 200 ACRES WILL BE CONVEYED TO THE CBD AND THERE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE HAPPENING BUT WE HAVE SOME WINS AND LOSSES AND DIFFERENT THINGS BUT THERE IS SO MUCH THAT GOES ON IN THESE DEVELOPMENTS HAD WITH THESE COMMUNITIES AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE FULLY AWARE OF WHEN IT COMES TO THE DEVELOPMENTS AND THE ANNEXING AND THAT DIFFERENT STAFF. AND SO PLEASE AS YOU HAVE FUN A THE ITEMS AHEAD OF YOU ALL LATER , TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE LAND AND THE HOUSES ON THE NUMBER OF HOMES, THE ROADS, THE SYSTEMS THAT COME IN TO PLAY AN THAT MEANS A LOT WITH [01:00:01] COMMUNITIES AND THE METHODS THA ARE THERE SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE STAFF. I FEEL MY HEART THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED HAD THEY NOT HELP ME ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS. SO I'M GRATEFUL THAT YOU YOU'RE LISTENING AND PAYING ATTENTION BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY THAT ARE IN THE COUNTY AND SO MANY THAT WE PRAY IT DOES NOT TAKE 2 YEARS TO DEVELOP BUT IF THEY DO COME WE START RUNNING INTO ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS SO THANK YOU AGAIN. >> ANYBODY ELSE FROM PUBLIC [21. Public Hearing on Ordinance and Resolution to Amend the Capital Improvement Plan and Resolution for Other Budget Adjustments (MJ Rood)] COMMENT? >> I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO CONCERNS. PUBLIC HEARING ON THE RESOLUTIO FOR OTHER BUDGET JUDGMENTS. >> GOOD EVENING. THE AMENDMENTS BEFORE YOU AND BONDED ROAD PROJECTS AND WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE THIS PUBLIC MEETING. THESE ADJUSTMENTS REQUIRE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND OTHER CHANGE IN THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET IN ADDITION TO THIS, THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS YOUR TRUE UP, WHIC -- THE FINAL BUDGET. OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING. ANY FUND WANTED TO SPEAK? CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. >> WE APPROVE THE PORTION OF TH ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CLAY COUNTY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN SECOND. >> THAT PROMOTION TO SECOND. ALTHOUGH SOME FAVORS SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? >> A MOVE WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION, NONCAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AMENDMENT. >> MOTION. >> MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY PASSES FIVE DEATHS ZERO. >> FISCAL YEAR 2025-2256 BUDGET FOR BOTH ITEMS A AND B PAID. >> MOTION TO -- WAS IN FAVOR SAY AYE. PASSES FIVE DATA ZERO. THANK YOU. >> MOVING ONTO NUMBER 22. [22. Bid No. 25/26-061, Clay County Sheriff's Office Building 500 Renovation (K. Smith)] BIT NUMBER 25/26-061, CLAY COUNTY SHERIFFS OFFICE BUILDING 500 RENOVATION. >> GOOD EVENING. UNMANAGED OF THE COUNTY IN HERE TWO PRESET ITEM NUMBER 22, WHIC IS THE NOTICE OF INTENT INTENT TO WORK FOR BID NUMBER 25/26-061 , THE CLAY COUNTY SHERIFFS OFFICE BUILDING RENOVATION THE LOWEST BIDDER WA BROGDON BUILDERS LLC IN THE AMOUNT OF 1,000,006 AT A 4,002 AT A $55.50. THIS IS FOR THE BASE BID AND ULTIMATE BID NUMBER ONE MAC AND ULTIMATE BID NUMBER TWO. AND I HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HER FROM CAPITAL PROJECTS. >> QUESTIONS, ANYONE? MOTION? >> I WILL MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND THE MOTION. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FIVE DATA ZERO. [23. Public Hearing on the adoption of an Ordinance amending Ordinance No. 2017-10, which established the Cross Creek North Community Development District, in order to amend the boundaries of the Cross Creek North Community Development District (C. Grimm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ublic Hearing to consider adoption of COMP 26-0002. (District 5, Comm. Burke) (D. Selig)] >> IDU. >> NUMBER 20 FOR TWO CONSIDER COMP 26-002. >> SCOTT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUATION OF THE ITEM. IT WILL BE GOING TO THE MAY COMMISSION PLANNING MEETING. >> OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING . >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS AARON I MET 2100 SPINNAKER COURT IN MIDDLEBURG DEVELOP CROSS ACROSS -- I LIVE ACROSS FROM A SITE. I WAS AT THE COMMISSION MEETING FOR THIS ITEM WAS CONTINUED TO NEXT WEEK AND I WANTED TO TAKE MOMENT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF ON IT . AND SAY THAT I'LL BE FOLLOWING UP VERY CLOSELY AND PLAN TO BE AT ANY MEETINGS MOVING FORWARD FOR THIS ITEM WAS EVEN MENTIONE ON THE -- I'VE HEARD MANY SAY HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR RESIDENTS T SHOW UP AND VOICE THEIR CONCERN AND I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT IS WHY I'M HERE AND IT IS ALSO BY BIAS OR ON MY LOCAL CAC. I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO E-MAIL THEI CONCERNS IF THEY CAN'T MAKE IT. THAT BEING SAID I DO THINK IT I IMPORTANT THAT AS OFFICIAL COOPERS ELECTED TO REPS OF THIS COUNTY COMMIT IS IMPORTANT TO STAY INTO WITH WHAT IS BEING SE OUTSIDE OF THIS ROOM IS VALID OUTSIDE OF YOUR INBOX. THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY ON THIS TOPIC AS WELL AS OTHER ITEMS THAT COME BEFORE YOU ALL ON A REGULAR BASIS. ONLINE, TALKING WITH PEOPLE THE TODAY AND THEY CAN TELL YOU THOSE CONVERSATIONS EXTEND FAR BEYOND THE PEOPLE THAT I INTERACT WITH THEM I IMAGINE YO INTERACT WITH WAY MORE PEOPLE THAN I DO HEAR. I WON ALSO JUST QUICKLY THAT TH CAC FOR THIS AREA, WHICH I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I AM NOT ON, THEY RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION AND MORE BROADLY I'VE HEARD A SIGNIFICAN AMOUNT OF CONCERNING OPPOSITION AND I HAVE NOT SEEN OR HEARD A SINGLE PERSON COME FORWARD TO SUPPORT IT. SO I WON'T GO INTO ALL THE DETAILS TONIGHT. I'M GOING TO SAVE THAT FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION NEXT WEEK BUT I'M SURE THEY WOULD LOVE TO SEE ME AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL MY CONCERNS ARE THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, RIGHT UP AND THE BLACK CREEK AND LOSS OF NATURAL HABITAT, FLOODING, QUALITY-OF-LIFE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ALREADY LIVE IN THAT AREA. FROM WHERE I SIT, FEEL SICK A SITUATION WHERE CONSERVATION LAND IS BEING TREATED AS TEMPORARY UNTIL SOMEBODY DECIDE TO CASH IN. SO I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU ALL AND I KNOW THIS HAS NOT FORMALLY COME BEFORE YOU YET BUT JUST TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AHEAD OF TIME AND FAMILIAR SIZE -- PHILLY RISER SALTS WITH THAT. THERE'S UNFORTUNATELY ALREADY BEEN OPPRESSIVE AND SET IN THIS COUNTY WHEN IT COMES TO LAND US AND REZONING LIKE THIS. YOU CAN'T GO BACK A PASS I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. OVER TIME THIS WOULD OPEN THE DOOR TO CHALLENGES LIKE THIS, UNNECESSARY LEGAL BATTLE FOR NO YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH SOMETIMES AND ULTIMATELY THAT JUST BECAUS THE COUNTY TIME AND RESOURCES. SO LET'S NOT CONTINUE DOWN THAT ROAD. [01:30:01] OVER THE BOND OF PROTECT WHAT MAKES THIS COUNTY SPECIAL. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. >> ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. >> APPROVAL TO PUSH THIS APPLICATION FORWARD TO BE HEARD AT THE SECOND MEETING IN MAY, IF THIS IS BEING CONTINUED TO THE FIRST MEETING." ,, THAT'S MY MOTION. >> DID YOU WANT IT ON THE MAY THE 12TH? >> YOU ARE CORRECT, MAY 12TH. SO SORRY. >> SECOND THE MOTION. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FOUR-- E ONE. NEXT ONE, FINAL PUBLIC HEARING [25. Final Public Hearing to consider adoption of COMP 25-0015 and ZON 25-0029 (District 5, Comm Burke) (D. Selig)] TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF... MAC. >> THIS PAIR OF APPLICATIONS, THE APPLICANT IS SUSAN FRASER. THIS IS IN THE PENNEY FARMS DISTRICT. COMMISSIONER BURKE POSTESS DISTRICT. TWO PARCELS INVOLVED. BOTH A TEXT AND MAP AMENDMENT. THESE BOTH APPLY TO THE INTERCHANGE VILLAGE CENTER. THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND THEN THE ZONING DESIGNATION. THE SAME NAME IN THE ZONING APPLICATION. SIGNS WERE POSTED IN THE AREA WHERE MAILOUTS WERE SENT IS ON THE RIGHT. THE PARCELS ARE ON THE LEFT, IT'S A BIT EASIER TO SEE. ON THE RIGHT IS ALL OF THE LAND IN YELLOW. THE CHANGES ARE PROPOSED TO BE AN INCREASE IN THE TOTAL NUMBER OF THE ACRES. RIGHT NOW 18.75 IS THE CAP FOR THE LAIBC AT HENLEY, THAT IS EXPECTED TO INCREASE TO 52 ACRES. THERE WOULD BE A REDUCTION IN THE MINIMUM REQUIRED ACRES FROM 10% DOWN TO ZERO AND A REDUCTION IN THE MAXIMUM REQUIRED ACRES FROM 50% TO 30%. AND THEN AMENDMENTS TO BOTH LAND USE CHANGE AND ZONING. IN THE TEXT AMENDMENT, THERE IS A TABLE RIGHT NOW. THERE ARE A FEW CHANGES WE ARE PROPOSING HERE. YOU CAN SEE THE PERCENTAGES LISTED. IN THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, THERE ARE TWO LAIBC AREAS IN THE COUNTY. ONE IS AT STATE ROAD 16 AND THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY AND THIS ONE, WHICH IS AT VERBENA, WE HAVE LISTED THEM SEPARATELY HERE BECAUSE IN THE TEXT THEY ARE TREATED SEPARATELY BUT IN THE TABLE THEY ARE NOT. WE HAVE ALSO MADE A CLARIFICATION UNDER LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THAT IS ALLOWED ONLY AT THE IBC AT STATE ROAD 16 SO WE HAVE ADDED IT TO THE TABLE JUST TO BE A LITTLE MORE CLEAR. AND THIS IS AGAIN THE LOCATION FOR THE HENLEY AND VERBENA. ON JANUARY 15TH, THE PENNY FARMS, VOTED 71 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PLAN AND 80 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ZONING CHANGE. ON FEBRUARY THIRD, PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED 50 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT. FEBRUARY 24TH, THE BOARD VOTED FOUR-- ZERO TO RECOMMEND TRANSMITTAL OF THE PLAN TO THE STATE FOR THEIR REVIEW. AND ON MARCH 27TH, THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE ISSUED A LETTER INDICATING THEY HAD NO COMMENTS REGARDING THE CHANGES THAT ARE PROPOSED UNDER THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE CRITERIA FOR BOTH AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF BOTH ITEMS. >> I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. GO AHEAD. >> I'M JUST HERE KIND OF TO BRING US BACK UP TO SPEED. THE BOARD HEARD THIS ITEM IN FEBRUARY ABOUT THE STATE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR THE LAND USE. YOU ARE HEARING THE ZONING TONIGHT FOR THE FIRST TIME. [01:35:02] THIS AMENDMENT WILL-- CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP? ANY ONE OF THE MAPS THAT HAS THE AREA. SO THE AMENDMENT IS INTENDED TO CLARIFY THE BOUNDARY FOR THE INTERCHANGE VILLAGE CENTER. THERE'S ALREADY AN 18.75 ACRE INTERCHANGE VILLAGE CENTER AT THE INTERSECTION OF ROBINA PARKWAY AND HENLEY. 379 IN THE POLICY. SOUTH OF THE PARKWAY CACTUS SEMI-CIRCLE IS IVC TODAY SO THIS AMENDMENT CLARIFIES THAT BOUNDARY WITH A LEGAL DESCRIPTION. THE FULL AMENDMENT EXPANDS THE AREA FROM 18.75 ACRES TO 52 ACRES TOTAL. SO YOU HEARD THE WHOLE DISCUSSION WHEN YOU TRANSMITTED THAT THIS IS AN EXPANSION OF A COMMERCIAL AREA TO SUPPORT BOTH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY AND INCREASED TRAFFIC ON THE INTERSTATE. THERE IS AN INTERSTATE OFF RAMP AT HENLEY. SO AFTER WE MET IN FEBRUARY CACTUS BOARD MET IN FEBRUARY CACTUS OWNER CONTINUED TO MEET WITH THE HOA. REMEMBER THE HOA SPOKE AT THE BOARD MEETING AND ONE OF THEIR REQUESTS WERE AT THAT TIME THAT THERE WAS TO BE NO RESIDENTIAL LOCATED SOUTH OF THE PARKWAY AND THE APPLICANT AGREED THAT THAT RESTRICTION WAS ACCEPTABLE TO THEM. THAT IS REPRESENTED IN THE LAND USE LANGUAGE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO CONSIDER THIS EVENING. THERE HAVE BEEN ADDITIONAL MEETINGS WITH THE HOA AND THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT PARTICULAR NONRESIDENTIAL USES THAT ARE ALLOWED UNDER THE LAND USE CATEGORY AND UNDER THE ZONING THAT YOU ARE GOING TO CONSIDER. THAT THE COMMUNITY THAT IS ADJACENT TO THE AREA SOUTH OF THE PARKWAY WOULD PREFER NOT OCCUR AT THAT LOCATION. AND SO MR. YOUNG IS HERE, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, AND HE'S MET WITH HIM ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS AND THERE HAS BEEN A LIST DEVELOPED OF WHAT THE USES MIGHT BE CACTUS LESS DESIRABLE USES. THERE'S AN AGREEMENT TO PLACE A RESTRICTION IN THE DECLARATIONS FOR THE PROJECT THAT WOULD LIMIT THE USE OF THAT PROPERTY. AND EXCLUDE THOSE PARTICULAR USES. SO I THINK THAT CONVERSATION HAS BEEN HELD AND I'M SURE THE HOA IS HERE AND WILL SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES BUT WE HAVE CONTINUED TO HAVE A DIALOG ABOUT WHAT THIS AREA WILL BE AS IT CONTINUES TO DEVELOP. IT IS SUBJECT TO ALL THE STANDARDS IN LAKE ASBURY. WHEN WE GET THE ZONING SET IN PLACE, AS YOU KNOW LAKE ASBURY IS THE EXAMPLE YOU APPLY TO ALL IN CLAY COUNTY AS TO BUFFERS AND LIGHTING AND ACCESS AND CONNECTIVITY AND SO ALL OF THOSE STANDARDS WILL APPLY TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT ULTIMATELY APPEAR ON THIS PROPERTY. WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, GARY. >> MY NAME IS GARY SCHIFF. I LIVE AT 3272-- THERE I AM, CROCUS LANE. GREEN COVE SPRINGS. MY HOUSE IS RIGHT NEXT TO THAT HALF CIRCLE. SO WE ARE BASICALLY TREATING THIS IVC AS ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY. BUT IN REALITY, IT SHOULD BE PARCEL LETTER A, WHICH IS NORTH OF VERBENA AND THEN WE COULD CALL THAT HALF CIRCLE PARCEL B WHICH IS SOUTH. THE REASON THAT I MENTIONED THAT IS THE HALF CIRCLE IS REALLY SURROUNDED BY VILLAGE PARK, WHICH IS SINGLE HOME RESIDENTIAL. SO WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR PART OF THE IVC, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO RESIDENTIAL. BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IN AN IVC, YOU CAN HAVE ATTACHED HOMES, YOU CAN HAVE APARTMENTS, CONDOS. BUT NOT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SO WE PREFER IF THE 30% MAXIMUM RESIDENTIAL IS REDUCED TO ZERO FOR THAT PARCEL, THE HALF CIRCLE, BUT IT CAN BE MAINTAINED FOR THE PROPERTY NORTH OF VERBENA, WHICH IS PROBABLY MORE APPROPRIATE FOR HOUSIN, CLOSER TO FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY. SO I HOPE YOU CAN PUT SOME LANGUAGE IN OR SOMEHOW ADDRESS IT SO THERE'S NO RESIDENTIAL. AND I THINK THE DEVELOPER IS OKAY WITH THAT. IN THAT PARCEL, THAT HALF CIRCLE. SO THAT IT JUST MAINTAINS COMMERCIAL, RETAIL, MAYBE A PROFESSIONAL CENTER, WITH A NICE BUFFER BETWEEN THE HOMES AND THE COMMERCIAL THAT WILL BE GOING IN THERE." PROPERTY NORTH IS VERY LARGE AND [01:40:02] COULD HOLD SOME RESIDENTIAL. BUT WE PREFER THAT PARCEL B IS MINIMUM ZERO MAXIMUM. THANK YOU FOR THE CONSIDERATION, I APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU. TOMMY CHILDRESS. NEXT WILL BE BOB NEELY. >> THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME. MY NAME IS TOMMY CHILDRESS. VILLAGE PARK DRIVE, I'M THE CURRENT HOA PRESIDENT FOR VILLAGE PARK. AT LEAST THEY HAVE NOT KICKED ME OUT YET SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU HEARING ME AGAIN TONIGHT. I JUST WANT SOME POINTS OF CLARIFICATION. I REALLY APPRECIATE HOW THE OPEN COMMUNICATION BETWEEN US AND THE DEVELOPR HAS BEEN. IT'S BEEN ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, SOME TENSION POINTS AND I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE MAYBE MISUNDERSTOOD BETWEEN-- PROBABLY MORE ON MY PART THAN ANYTHING ELSE BUT THE OPEN COMMUNICATION BETWEEN US AND THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN REALLY, REALLY GOOD AND HE-- I MEAN OUR OTHER INSTANCES WITH A DEVELOPER WAS THE ONE WHO DEVELOPED OUR PROPERTY AND THEY HAD DISSOLVED THEIR LLC SO IT WAS NOT VERY GOOD. SO THIS HAS BEEN A DIFFERENT CHANGE, ALTHOUGH VERY APPREHENSIVE ABOUT TRUST BUT HE'S DEFINITELY BUILT THAT TRUST UP PRETTY WELL AND IS VERY HAPPY WITH IT. I BELIEVE WHAT GARY WAS JUST SAYING, THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED FROM THE LAST MEETING, THAT THAT SEPARATION, THAT THERE'S NO HOUSES BEING BUILT. AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY AGAIN, THAT IS ONE OF THE LARGEST CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAD THOSE CONCERNS WITH THE TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT MAY GO IN THERE. OBVIOUSLY WE WANT BUSINESS, WE WANT THAT AVAILABILITY, THAT'S GOING TO BE GREAT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. HOWEVER WE STILL WANT TO BE CAUTIOUS BECAUSE IT IS OUR COMMUNITY. WE ARE NOT A VERY BIG COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW BUT WE ARE GETTING THERE. SO WE APPRECIATE HIM HEARING US OUT AND REALLY LISTENING TO OUR NEEDS AND WANTS FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA THERE. AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE BEEN HEARD FOR THAT AND JUST WANT TO PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU GUYS FOR HEARING US. >> I WILL SAY YOU WILL BE THE ENVY OF THE AREA WITH ALL OF THE GREAT STUFF YOU ARE HAVING. YOU CAN WALK TO IT. BOB NEELY. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M BOB NEELY, 3221 CROCUS LANE IN GREEN COVE. OR VILLAGE PARK. I'M ALSO ONE OF THE HOA BOARD MEMBERS. BEING AN HOA BOARD MEMBER, BEING IN THE HOA IS A NEW EXPERIENCE FOR ME, AND I'M VERY MUCH LEARNING AS I GO. TRYING TO BE A GOOD BOARD MEMBER, A GOOD MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS PROGRESS AS SMOOTHLY AS POSSIBLE. THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT PUTTING MULTIFAMILY HOUSING INTO OUR AREA, WHICH IS NOT IN THE FLAVOR OF THE CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND NONE OF THE NEIGHBORS REALLY WANTED TO SEE IT HAPPEN. MR. YOUNG HAS BEEN VERY FORTHRIGHT IN TALKING WITH US AND GIVING US PRETTY MUCH ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT. AND IF WE CAN KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD INTACT THE WAY IT'S GOING, IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. JASON MCKENZIE. >> GOOD EVENING MY NAME IS JASON MCKENZIE, 2575 LANE. LAST TIME WE WERE HERE I SPOKE ABOUT THESE EXACT TWO PARCELS." MY MAIN CONCERN, WE ENDED UP DOING ZERO MINIMUM ZERO MAXIMUM IN THE HALF MOON. MY SECOND CONCERN WAS MAKING SURE THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT WAS LEGALLY BINDING THE DEVELOPERS TO WHAT WE WERE VOTING ON. REALLY I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I EXPRESSED THAT CONCERN AGAIN AS THE GRAPHICS THAT ARE SHOWING ON THE CHART ARE KIND OF THE OLDER GRAPHICS THAT DID NOT HAVE THE TWO CHARTS THAT WERE-- THAT HAD ZERO MIN ZERO MAX ON IT SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE CLEAR ABOUT THE 30% AND WHERE IT CAN GO VERSUS IT BEING RESIDENTIAL IN THE HALF MOON. I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REMIND US WHERE WE WERE AT LAST TIME WE HAD THIS MEETING. YOU GUYS WERE VERY GRATEFUL TO US, YOU SAID WE SHOULD BE VERY APPRECIATIVE IN THE WAY THAT THE BOARD VOTED FOR US, AND WE ARE. IN FACT WE ARE APPRECIATIVE OF THAT DIRECTION AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE AS WE MOVE FORWARD THAT THAT IS SOLIDIFIED WITHIN THE WRITING AND THAT THERE IS NO ACCIDENTAL CHANGE WITHIN THE USAGE OF THOSE PROPERTIES SPECIFICALLY IN THAT HALF MOON. ZERO MIN ZERO MAX RESIDENTIAL. >> SUBMITTED TO THE STATE, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. THERE IS A LINE IN THE ORDINANCE FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE POLICY THAT SAYS WITHIN THE CR739, THE INTERCHANGE VILLAGE CENTER [01:45:05] RESIDENTIAL USES SHALL BE LIMITED TO THE IVC AREA NORTH OF VERBENA PARKWAY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ELENA. >> THANK YOU AGAIN. ADDRESS IS ON FILE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE HEARD A COUPLE OF TIMES WAS ABOUT THAT HALF MOON AND THAT ONE BEING PREVIOUSLY THE IVC ZONING. WHEN THEY WERE DOING THIS WHOLE DESIGN, IT WOULD HAVE PROBABLY HELPED THE COMMUNITY HAD THEY SWAPPED SOME OF THAT LAND AND SAID WE WILL LEAVE IT, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST CONCERN WAS THE MULTIFAMILY SECTION IN THERE AND SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AN OPTION THAT THE DEVELOPERS COULD HAVE DONE. I'M GRATEFUL THAT THERE HAS BEEN SO MUCH COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE DEVELOPERS AND THE RESIDENTS OF THAT SUBDIVISION TO BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH SOME ALTERNATIVES SO THEY DON'T HAVE THE MULTIFAMILY HIGHER DENSITY IN THAT AREA AND THAT THEY'V BEEN ABLE TO LIMIT THE TYPE OF BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN THEIR. AGAIN CACTUS WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT BACK WHEN THIS WAS PRESENTED TO THE CITIZENS ADVISORY CAME IN ONE WAY, PRESENTED TO US ONE WAY CAT CAME TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING CHANGES AND THEN CAME BEFORE YOU ALL. THAT WAS THE VOTE WHEN COMMISSIONER CONDON WAS NOT H HERE. ENSURED IT WOULD BE PRESENTED THE WAY IT COMES AND THAT STAFF WOULD CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE WHAT IS PRESENTED AT THE, IS PRESENTED TO YOU ALL IN FACT THAT IT WAS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WHEN YOU ALL ARE EXAMINING AND LOOKING AT ALL THAT. >> AS THE HOA SPOKE WITH THE DEVELOPERS TO MAKE CHANGES? >> IT WAS A BIT OF EVERYTHING. GOING FROM ONE MEETING TO THE NEXT AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND THEN ON WITH THE HOA. BUT IT'S STILL IMPORTANT WHEN YOU ALL LOOK AT IT SURFACE LEVEL THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, A VOTE ON A CERTAIN WAY CALCULATE THE INFORMATION PRESENTED IS ALSO PRESENTED TO YOU, THAT WE HAVE VOTED BASED ON THIS CRITERIA, PLANNING AND ZONING VOTED BASED ON THIS AND THEN IT COMES BEFORE YOU ALL IN WHATEVER FASHION IT LOOKS LIKE SO THAT YOU AT LEAST SEE THAT OUR DESIGN WAS DIFFERENT THAN YOURS AND SO THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO WORK ON THAT BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE MULTIPLE CASES THAT HAVE THINGS THAT COME AND YOU WANT TO KNOW THAT THEY MATCH OR THAT THEY DON'T MATCH. SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I WILL TAKE A MOTION. >> CAN I ASK A QUESTION? WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THE HALF CIRCLE? DID WE SUBMIT IT? I WAS CONFUSED BY THAT. WITH THE ZERO AND ZERO? I DID NOT SEE IT IN THE REPORT. >> THAT PART WAS NOT IN THE STAFF REPORT. WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED WHAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. >> IT'S IN THE ORDINANCE. >> I'M SORRY, I WAS READING THE STAFF REPORT WHEN THEY WERE TALKING SO PROBABLY WASN'T LISTENING AS WELL, SORRY ABOUT THAT. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE COMP 25-0015. >> I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? THERE'S A QUESTION AFTER THAT. >> I WILL SECOND. SO UNDER THE CURRENT AGENDA ITEM, WHAT ARE THEY ARE THEY ACCEPTABLE USES FOR THE REZONING? I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK WITH HOA AND THE DEVELOPER ABOUT WHAT THEY DO WANT, WHAT THEY DON'T WANT. WHERE HAVE WE SETTLED? >> THE ZONING IS WHAT IS ALLOWED UNDER LA IVC. MOSTLY COMMERCIAL, RETAIL, SMALL OFFICE. SMALL SERVICES, THAT KIND OF THING. IT INCLUDES PRETTY MUCH EVERY OFFICE USE. GAS STATIONS, BANKS, DENTIST, THAT KIND OF THING. >> I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION MAYBE FOR THE DEVELOPER. THERE WAS JUBILATION LAST TIME ABOUT A POTENTIAL VENDOR FOR GROCERIES. IS THAT STILL THE PLAN? >> YES, THAT IS STILL THE PLAN. [01:50:08] THAT SITE PLAN HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNTY AND IS PROPOSED FOR CONSTRUCTION ON THE NORTH SIDE OF VERBENA. >> NORTH SIDE OF VERBENA IS SOME SORT OF GROCERY AND THEN SOUTH SIDE IS NO HOMES IS WHAT I'M HEARING? >> CORRECT. >> SOME SORT OF PROFESSIONAL OFFICE OR ANYTHING IN THE IVC BESIDES HOMES? >> CORRECT. ARE WE PERMITTED TO SAY THE NAME RIGHT NOW? OKAY. [LAUGHTER] >> I'M GOOD. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES 5-0. ALL RIGHT, AND-- SORRY. >> I WILL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE ZONING. >> SECOND. >> ALBRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE." [26. Final Public Hearing to consider ZON 26-0006 (Sign Code Amendment) (D. Selig)] ANY OPPOSED? PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU. NUMBER 26, FINAL PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER 25-0006. SO THIS IS A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGE THAT IS BEING PROPOSED. FRANK MILLER IS THE APPLICANT. IT WOULD APPLY TO LANDS WITHIN LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN AND ALSO LANDS IN THE COUNTY BUT NOT WITHIN THE MASTER PLAN. WE HAD HOPED TO INCORPORATE BRANDON FIELD AS WELL BUT THAT WAS GOING TO BE MORE COMPLICATED THAN WE HAD REALLY TIME TO ADDRES WITH THIS APPLICANT. SO FOR NOW-- WE WILL COME BACK TO THAT BUT FOR NOW WE ARE APPLYING THIS TO LAKE ASBURY AND ANYONE-- ANYWHERE OUTSIDE. THE APPLICATION IS TO AMEND THE CODE TO ARTICLES THREE WHICH IS SPECIFIC TO THE THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN PORTION OF SIGNAGE AND TO ARTICLE SEVEN WHICH IS THE SIGN CODE. THE APPLICANTS PROPOSING TO CREATE A MASTER SIGN PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS, THAT CAN BE DONE NOW. WE DON'T HAVE AN APPROVAL PROCESS FOR THIS FOR LAND THAT IS NOT IN A PUD OR DRI. THIS IS AN OPTION, NOT A MANDATORY THING. WOULD APPLY TO PROJECTS THAT MEET THE DEFINITION, AND IT'S A NEW DEFINITION, OF A UNIFIED LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS A COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN MULTI-PHASE DEVELOPMENT THAT INCORPORATES A COMBINATION OF RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL RETAIL OR OFFICE USES AND CONSISTS OF NOT LESS THAN 2000 ACRES. THE CHANGES ON THIS SLIDE ARE SPECIFIC TO THE LAKE ASBURY CODE IN THE PROHIBITED SIGN SECTION. THERE WAS SOME TWEAKING TO PROVIDE SOME EXEMPTION FOR PYLON SIGNS AND OFF PREMISE SIGNS SEPARATED FROM BILLBOARDS. AND THEN INCORPORATED THE NEW DEFINITION IN ITS OWN SECTION. PRIMARILY REALLY IS THERE AS A POINTER TO SAY THAT IF A UNIFIED LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT WERE TO COME IN IN LAKE ASBURY, THEY WOULD DEVELOP A MASTER SIGN PLAN UNDER THE PROVISIONS IN ARTICLE SEVEN. SO IN ARTICLE SEVEN CACTUS APPLICATION WOULD CREATE SEVERAL NEW DEFINITIONS. ONE BEING DIRECTIONAL SIGNS. THESE ARE SIGNS OFTEN WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY, PROVIDING NAVIGATION PIERRE HAS ARROWS, SYMBOLS, MINIMAL TEXT. SPECIFICALLY POINTING TO LOCATION OR DIRECTION OF AN AREA, PUBLIC FACILITY, CIVIC USE, THAT KIND OF THING. WE HAVE GATEWAY FEATURE SIGN, WHICH IS A STRUCTURE THAT IS LOCATED AT THE BOUNDARY OF A GEOGRAPHIC AREA THAT IS DEFINED AND DEPICTED WITHIN THE MASTER SITE SIGN PLAN. AND AGAIN THAT'S ESTABLISHING A GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION. CAN HAVE SAMPLES OR MINIMAL TEXT. AND CAN BE ADJACENT TO OR WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY. AS LONG AS IT IS A RIGHT OF WAY THAT PROVIDES PRIMARY ACCESS TO THE AREA. THE MASTER PLAN IS A UNIFIED DESIGN PLAN COVERED BY [01:55:01] STANDARDIZED DESIGN FOR THE SIGNS, LOCATION, SIZE, HEIGHT, PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS. THAT HAS TO BE UNDER UNIFIED CONTROL. TWO OTHER MONUMENT SIGNS DEFINITIONS. A TEMPORARY MONUMENT SIGN WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE IN A SENSE IN OUR CODE BUT THIS IS INCORPORATING IT SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE MASTER SIGN PLAN OPTION. AND THAT IS LITERALLY A TEMPORARY SIGN THAT WILL BE LATER REPLACED BY A PERMANENT ONE. UNIFIED CONTROL IS DEFINED. THAT'S EVIDENCE THAT ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS OR LEASEHOLDERS WITHIN THE AREA SUBJECT TO THE MASTER SIGN PLAN CONSENT IN SOME FORM OF A REPORTED DOCUMENT TO THE TERMS OF THE MASTER SIGN PLAN. AND THEN AGAIN THE UNIFIED LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT, DEFINITION AGAIN. MASTER SIGN PLAN REQUIRES A SUBMITTAL OF A BOUNDARY MAP SHOWING WHERE ALL OF THE SIGNS WILL BE, SIGN SCHEDULE, DESIGN STANDARDS, WHAT WILL THEY LOOK LIKE, WHAT IS THEIR HEIGHT AND SIZE. AND THEN DOCUMENTATION OF THAT UNIFIED CONTROL. WE HAVE A TABLE TO SHOW YOU THE TYPES OF SIGNS THAT ARE ALLOWED AND THEIR HEIGHT, MAXIMUM SIGN AREA. I ADDED UNDER THAT THE LAKE ASBURY REQUIREMENTS SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED UNDER THE MASTER PLAN IS THE SAME HEIGHT AND SIZING SIGN FACE AS IS ALREADY ALLOWED UNDER LAKE ASBURY. WE ARE JUST PROVIDING IT UNDER SOME ADDITIONAL SIGN TYPES. DIRECTIONAL AND GATEWAY SIGNS. THEY CAN CONTAIN NO MORE THAN THE MINIMUM TEXT NECESSARY TO CONVEY DISTANCE, DIRECTION, DESTINATION. IT CAN INCLUDE-- IT HAS TO BE UNIFORM WITH THE STANDARDS OF THE MASTER SIGN PLAN. THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY BE SEPARATED BY A DISTANCE OF 2000 FEET. BEING SENSITIVE TO NOT HAVING CROWDING. HOWEVER WITHIN 1000 FEET OF AN INTERSECTION. WHICH IS WHERE DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT. THERE CAN BE ONE SIGN FOR EACH DIRECTION OF TRAVEL. FROM THAT SIGN POINT, 2000 FEET MEASUREMENT TO THE NEXT SIGN WOULD APPLY. GATEWAY FEATURE SIGNS CACTUS HAVE TO BE SEPARATED BY A DISTANCE OF NO LESS THAN 1 MILE. APPROVAL OF A MASTER SIGN PLAN IS GOING TO BE A RECORDED AGREEMENT WITH DOCUMENTING THE UNIFIED CONTROL. THE MASTER SIGN PLAN WON'T RUN WITH THE LAND AND MODIFICATIONS WILL REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT PROCESS WHICH IS INCORPORATED IN THIS DOCUMENT. AND THERE IS ALREADY PROVISIONS UNDER ARTICLE SEVEN IN THE SIGN CODE DEALING WITH FAILURE TO MAINTAIN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SIGN CODE. THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL PROCESS WOULD GIVE THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND ZONING AUTHORIZATION OF VARIANCES TO THE CODE FOR SIGNS WITHIN THE MASTER SIGN PLAN FOR HEIGHT, SIGN FACE AREA, WITHIN CERTAIN LIMITS. THERE IS THIS 10 PERCENT, 15% WAIVER FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SIGN TYPES. THE REVIEW OF THE APPLICATION IS GOING TO BE COMPLETED WITHIN 15 BUSINESS DAYS AND USE THE SAME CONTENT NEUTRAL CRITERIA THAT THE BOARD WILL BE USING. SIGNS THAT DON'T MEET THE MASTER SIGN REQUIREMENTS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL MAY SEEK APPROVAL FROM THE BOARD. THE BOARD APPROVAL PROCESS, THE BOARD WOULD BE UNDER THIS PROGRAM, THEY WOULD BE APPROVING MASTER SIGN APPLICATIONS UPON WHICH EITHER NO ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION WAS RENDERED OR NOT RENDERED WITHIN THE 15 DAYS, A DECISION THAT GRANTED WITH CONDITIONS OR MODIFICATIONS THAT WEREN'T ACCEPTABLE TO THE APPLICANT OR THAT IS DENIED UNDER THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS. ALSO, ANY MASTER SIGN PLAN THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE A MEANS OF UNIFIED CONTROL FOR ALL THE PROPERTIES. ANY SIGN THAT IS REMOVED FROM A MASTER SIGN PLAN THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL PROCESS FOR BEING GREATER IN HEIGHT OR SIGN FACE AREA THAN IS PERMITTED UNDER THE ADMINISTRATIVE PORTION, THAT SIGN COULD COME TO YOU AS WELL. THE BOARD'S REVIEW AGAIN IS THE SAME, CONTRACT TWO CRITERIA. THE AMENDMENT PROCESS. AN AMENDMENT CAN BE TO ADD OR DELETE ANY SIGN FROM ANY PROPERTY EXCUSE ME OR ANY PROPERTY FROM THE BOUNDARIES OF THE SIGN PLAN HOWEVER THE [02:00:01] BOUNDARY CANNOT BE REDUCED BELOW THAT MINIMUM THRESHOLD OF 2000 ACRES REQUIRED. ANY SIGN ON A PARCEL OF LAND THAT IS REMOVED-- IF THE PARCEL OF LAND IS REMOVED FROM THE MASTER SIGN PLAN, AND THAT SIGN DOESN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SIGN CODE AT A TIME THAT THE PARCEL IS REMOVED, THAT SIGN NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH ARTICLE SEVEN, THE CURRENT SIGN CODE, WITHIN 180 DAYS OR BE REMOVED FROM THE PARCEL. AND AS I SAID, THE MASTER SIGN PLAN CAN BE AMENDED BUT THAT WOULD BE IN THE SAME FORMAT AS THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION. SO ON APRIL SEVENTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD THIS ITEM AND VOTED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH SOME CHANGES THAT WERE LISTED DURING THE MEETING AND HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE ITEM BEFORE YOU. AND THEN ON APRIL NINTH, THE LAKE ASBURY PENNEY FARMS CIC HEARD THE ITEM AND VOTED 60 TO VOTE APPROVAL OF THE ITEM. STAFF HAS LOOKED AT THEIR CRITERIA FOR REZONING AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF BOTH OF THE ORDINANCES ATTACHED TO THIS ITEM. >> ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING FROM THE BOARD? I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS FRANK MILLER. MY ADDRESS IS ONE INDEPENDENT DRIVE, SUITE 2300 IN JACKSONVILLE. AS POINTED OUT, THIS IS AN OPTIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR DEVELOPERS OR OWNERS WITHIN 200E DEVELOPMENTS AND IT IS INTENDED REALLY TO MINIMIZE CLUTTER SIGNAGE. THIS WILL BE A PLANNED DESIGN OF SIMILAR MATERIALS, DESIGN, AND VERY IMPORTANTLY THE GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION. ANNOUNCING OR ADVISING YOU ARE ENTERING THIS LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING TO BE KNOWN AS LETTER X OR LETTER WHY. AND IT DOES GIVE THE COUNTY SOME CONTROL OVER THE DESIGN. OBVIOUSLY THE COUNTY CAN'T ADDRESS BAD TASTE. BUT THE COUNTY CAN'T ADDRESS THAT NOW. IT WILL REQUIRE SPACING OF SIGNS, ASSURANCE OF SIMILARITY OF TYPE AND STYLE. AND THERE REALLY IS NO NEGATIVE TO IT. IT'S OPTIONAL IF A DEVELOPER OF OVER 2000 ACRES WITH MIXED USE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. BUT IF THEY WANT TO HAVE A COHESIVE UNIFIED PLAN FOR THEIR SIGNS, THEY CAN PURSUE IT. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU MR. MILLER. ANYBODY ELSE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING? CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING. BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR A MOTION. >> I MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND THE MOTION. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? [INDISTINCT] >> DO WE HAVE TO DO THEM SEPARATELY? I MOVE WE APPROVE THE SECOND PART TOO. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? >> BEFORE YOU RUN THROUGH THE CHAIR, I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ABOUT ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS YOU SAID WAS THAT THE SIGN CODE AMENDMENT WOULD NOT EXPAND TO THE BROWNFIELD MASTER PLAN. DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE FOR WHEN YOU WOULD LIKE TO BRING THAT BACK. >> NOT TOO FAR, MAYBE LATER THIS SUMMER IF WE DON'T HAVE A TIME FRAME AT THE MOMENT, NO. IT WAS JUST GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THAN THE LAKE ASBURY ONE BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO GET IT BACK TO YOU WHILE IT'S SORT OF FRESH IN EVERYONE'S MINDS STILL. DOES THAT HELP? >> YOU ARE SAYING LATE SUMMER? >> PROBABLY. >> I LIKE IT. I WOULD LIKE IT IF THEY APPLIED IT FOR LESS THAN 2000 ACRES. LESS SIGN CLUTTER AND NICER LOOKING SIGNS. I WOULD BE ALL ABOUT THAT. [27. Final Public Hearing to consider COMP 26-0004 and ZON 26-0005. (District 4, Comm. Condon) (B. Carson)] >> KEEP THAT CONSIDERATION. >> NOT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO DO. >> NUMBER 27, FINAL PUBLIC [02:05:04] HEARING TO CONSIDER COMP 26-0004 AND ZON 26-0005 IN COMMISSIONER CONDON POSTESS DISTRICT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS ITEM WAS HEARD BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THEIR APRIL SEVENTH MEETING. THE APPLICANT IS LUKE FROM FANCY HOMES. THE ADDRESS IS 4538 MAYFLOWER STREET IN MIDDLEBURG, CLAY HILL DISTRICT, COMMISSIONER CONDON POSTESS DISTRICT. COMP 26-0004 WOULD CHANGE THE FUTURE OF LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM COMMERCIAL TO RURAL RESIDENTIAL. THE ZONING ITEM ASPECT IS 2605 WHICH WOULD CHANGE THE ZONING FROM NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS TO RURAL ESTATES. THE MAP ON THE LEFT IS A LOCATION MAP. THIS IS THE BOUNDARY OF WHERE WE NOTIFY THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS AND THE LIST IS ON THE RIGHT AND WE HAVE THE SIGNAGE ON THE RIGHT AS WELL. THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY IS SOUTH OF 218 IN MIDDLEBURG IN THE AREA OF WHERE THE STREETS ARE NAMED AFTER FLOWERS. THIS IS MAYFLOWER STREET. THE MAP ON THE RIGHT IS AERIAL. YOU CAN SEE YOU HAVE SOME LOTS ARE DEVELOPED, OTHERS ARE STILL WAITING TO BE DEVELOPED. THE MAP ON THE LEFT IS THE EXISTING LAND USE. THE RED IS THE COMMERCIAL, WHEREAS THE YELLOW IS RESIDENTIAL. THE MAP ON THE RIGHT IS THE PROPOSED LAND USE SO IT'S GOING FROM A RED COMMERCIAL TO THE YELLOW RURAL RESIDENTIAL. WHAT I WANT TO DO IS SHOW YOU ZOOM OUT BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THIS AREA IS PRIMARILY COMMERCIAL BUT IF YOU ZOOM OUT YOU SEE IT'S REALLY JUST A SMALL AREA OF COMMERCIAL, WHEREAS THIS IS IN A MUCH LARGER RESIDENTIAL AREA. ON THE LEFT IS THE EXISTING ZONING. THE BAY DISTRICT. ON THE RIGHT THE AR TWO. THE GREEN THAT IT WOULD BE GOING TO. ON MARCH 16TH PACKET WAS VOTED 60 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF BOTH APPLICATIONS. ON APRIL SEVENTH, PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED 60 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF BOTH. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE CRITERIA FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND FOUND THAT IT MET THE REQUIREMENTS. RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF 2604. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE CRITERIA FOR THE REZONING AND IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT AS WELL AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ZONE 2605. >> ANY QUESTIONS. >> AR VERSUS AR TWO. IS AR TWO LARGER LOTS? >> AR TWO IS MORE COUNTRY ESTATES. IT DOESN'T ALLOW THE ANIMALS% THAT YOU CAN HAVE WITH AR. >> GOT IT. >> ANYBODY ELSE. I WILL OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING. I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? I'LL WRITE, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. >> MOVE APPROVAL. >> THE MOTION. MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES 5-0. >> MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? [28. Final Public Hearing to consider ZON 26-0004. (District 5, Comm. Burke) (B.Carson)] PASSES 5-0. NUMBER 28, PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER 26-000 FOUR. >> THIS WAS ALSO HEARD AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON APRIL SEVENTH. THE APPLICANT IS FIRST COAST ENERGY. JASON GABRIEL IS HERE TO REPRESENT THEM AS THE AGENT. THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY IS 2409 BOX ROAD." PLANNING DISTRICT IS-- THIS IS IN COMMISSIONER BURKE POSTESS DISTRICT AND IT HAS TWO PARCELS INVOLVED. THE ZONING APPLICATION, 2604, SEEKS TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 8.36 ACRES FROM AR AGRICULTURE RESIDENTIAL TO BB TWO, COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT. IN 2003 THE FUTURE LAND USE WAS AMENDED FROM COMMERCIAL VIA ORDINANCE 2003... AND I BELIEVE IT WAS REZONED TO PUD AT THE TIME BUT IT WAS NOT DEVELOPED AND THAT WAS SINCE EXPIRED. THE PROPOSED USE WOULD BE A DAILY CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS STATION PUMPS AND CAR WASH. THE MAP ON THE LEFT SHOWS YOU THE LOCATION OF THE PARCEL. THE MAP ON THE RIGHT IS THE CURRENT ZONING. YOU SEE IT'S GOT RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH, ANIMAL SHELTER TO THE SOUTH. [02:10:04] THE MAP ON THE LEFT IS THE EXISTING ZONING. AND ON THE RIGHT IS THE PROPOSED ZONING. OF NOTE IS THAT THE COLORS, THE GREEN, THE RED AND THE YELLOW ARE ALL RESIDENTIAL SO IT IS SURROUNDED ON THREE SIDES BY RESIDENTIAL. THE MAP ON THE LEFT IS OUR NOTIFICATION MAP. ON THE RIGHT IS THE SIGN. ON MARCH SECOND, BE, VOTED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. ON APRIL SEVENTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. STAFF FOUND THAT THE ITEM MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR REZONING AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ZONE 2604. THE AGENT IS HERE AND HE HAS SOME HANDOUTS. THEY-- THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT BUFFERING TO THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS WHY I POINTED OUT IT'S COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY THAT. THE BUFFER FOR COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL, THE COMMERCIAL WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO A 20-FOOT BUFFER WHICH HAS TO INCLUDE A 6-FOOT VISUAL BARRIER, WHETHER A FENCE, A WALL OR SHRUB PLANTING. 6-FOOT ADD HEIGHT AT PLANTING ALONG WITH EVERGREEN TREE. THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED ON ALL THREE SIDES, WHERE IT'S ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL. >> 30-FOOT WHAT? >> 20-FOOT BUFFER INCLUDING THE 6-FOOT VISUAL BARRIER AND 30-FOOT PLANTING OF TREES. SPACING IS 30 FEET APART. THE OTHER CONCERN WAS LIGHTING. BECAUSE IT IS SO CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL, THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LIGHTING, TRESPASS GOING OFF THE PROPERTY. I'M SURE THE AGENT WILL ADDRESS BOTH OF THOSE. >> GOOD EVENING. I'M JASON GABRIEL. 50 NORTH LOWER SUITE 300 JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. I'M HERE TODAY WITH THE HEAD OF REAL ESTATE, FIRST COAST ENERGY, AS WELL AS OUR HEAD CIVIL ENGINEER. WE ARE PLEASED TO BE HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. IF I MAY, I DID GIVE YOUR COUNTY ATTORNEY FOUR SIRT SIRT ONE PAGE SHEETS TO SUPPLEMENT AND ILLUSTRATE SOME OF THE ITEMS I'M GOING TO GO OVER AND THAT WAY I WON'T HAVE TO READ ALL OF THE STUFF THAT'S ON THERE. SO AS HAS BEEN STATED CACTUS IS A CONVENTIONAL REZONING OF THIS 8.37 ACRES AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF COUNTY ROAD 220 AND KNIGHT BOX ROAD. FROM AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL AR TO THIS BB TWO COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT. THIS IS A FINAL PUBLIC HEARING AND AS HAS BEEN STATED, THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN THROUGH YOUR PLANNING STAFF'S REVIEW. THE OAK LEAF BRANDON RIDGE CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW PROCESS WITH RECOMMENDATIONS OF APPROVAL EACH STEP OF THE WAY. THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, AS WAS MENTIONED, THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2003, IS COMMERCIAL. IT'S A FULL COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE MAP CLASSIFICATION. THE ZONING SIMPLY NEVER CAUGHT UP, AS WAS MENTIONED I THINK IN 2005 THERE WAS A PUD WITH I THINK OVER 60,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL WITH A WHOLE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, BUT THAT HAS SINCE EXPIRED AND IT WAS NEVER DEVELOPED. AND SO THE ZONING SIMPLY NEEDS TO BE MADE CONSISTENT WITH THE OVERRIDING FUTURE LAND USE MAP WHICH IS REQUIRED BY FLORIDA LAW. THIS REZONING APPLICATION BRINGS THAT ZONING INTO CONSISTENCY WITH THE LONGSTANDING COMMERCIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION. AS A SIDE NOTE, WE ARE HERE FOR THIS CONVENTIONAL REZONING BUT IN FULL TRANSPARENCY, NO SECRET, FIRST COAST ENERGY HAS OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR ABOUT-- A LITTLE OVER 20 YEARS NOW. AND SO THIS IS A GENERAL REZONING BUT WE ARE PLANNING ON DEVELOPING IT INTO A SITE WITH A COMPACT C-SUITE CONVENIENCE STORE, ABOUT 8000 SQUARE FEET GIVE OR TAKE ALONG WITH A CAR WASH AND GAS STATION ON THIS OVER 8-ACRE PROPERTY. SO A THOUGHTFUL PROJECT LIKE THIS WILL ENHANCE THIS GROWING AREA WHILE ALIGNING WITH THE BRANDON FIELD MASTER PLANS VISION FOR SUSTAINABLE MIXED USE GROWTH. THE PROJECT'S PROPOSED DESIGN WILL SEAMLESSLY ALIGN WITH OAK LEAF SUBURBAN CHARACTER AND THIS WON'T BE YOUR AVERAGE ROAD STOP-- ROADSIDE STOP, IT'S A MODERN COMPACT FACILITY ON A [02:15:01] LARGE SITE AND IT WILL FEATURE ALL CUTTING EDGE CONTEMPORARY% ENERGY EFFICIENT ARCHITECTURALLY LANDSCAPING LOW PROFILE SIGNAGE PHOTOMETRICALLY CONTROLLED LIGHTING THAT WILL HAVE ZERO SPILLAGE AND ALL OF THE LIKE. THIS WILL ALIGN WITH YOUR MASTER PLANS EMPHASIS, YOU KNOW, ON A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIOUS DEVELOPMENT AND IT WILL BE A CONVENIENT HUB FOR THE GENERAL RESIDENTIAL AREA. I WANT TO TALK ON THREE MAIN TOPICS AND I WILL TRY TO GET THROUGH THIS PRETTY QUICK. YOU HAVE A SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU, THAT ONE PAGE THAT IS TITLED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONSISTENCY. I WON'T READ THROUGH IT BUT ESSENTIALLY WE ARE SHOWING THAT THIS IS IN COMPLETE CONSISTENCY WITH AND ALIGNED WITH YOUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT. AND AGAIN CACTUS ZONING APPLICATION BRINGS THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION IN LINE WITH YOUR COMP PLAN. ANOTHER SLIDE THAT IS BEFORE YOU, THE TITLE B B TWO, BUILT IN PROTECTIONS, AND I WANT TO ADDRESS THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION, A COUPLE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS, I THINK IN LINE WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT SPOKE. THE MAIN ISSUE WAS KIND OF THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS. LIGHTING, BUFFERING, SOUND. OBVIOUSLY VERY REASONABLE THINGS TO BRING UP. AND WHAT I WANT TO STATE IS, AS THAT SHEET SHOWS, THE CLAY COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, YOUR LDC, CONTAINS MANDATORY ENFORCEABLE REQUIREMENTS THAT REQUIRE THE PROTECTION OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. IN PARTICULAR, SECTION 3-26.1 OF YOUR LDC ON BB TWO DISTRICT REGULATIONS CONTAINS, AND AGAIN I WON'T GO THROUGH IT, BUT THERE'S A LAUNDRY LIST OF CONCERNS AND WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE. ARE RANGING FROM SOUND, NOISE, LIGHTING. WE WILL HAVE A PHOTOMETRIC PLAN AT THE RIGHT TIME THAT WILL SHOW ZERO SPILLAGE TO ANY OF THE AREAS SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY. VISUAL BUFFERS, SCREENING SETBACKS FROM RESIDENTIAL. I THINK THAT WAS MENTIONED BY YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF. REQUIREMENTS FOR REFUSE, GARBAGE, PROHIBITED USES, DENSITY LIMITATION AND THE LIKE." IS LISTED THERE. THESE ARE NOT ASPIRATIONAL GUIDELINES OR VOLUNTARY COMMITMENTS, THEY ARE REAL MANDATORY REQUIREMENTS THAT WE WILL MEET." OFTEN TIMES WE WILL EXCEED. BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE SOME FEATURES IN THE PLAN, ONCE THAT TIME COMES, TO EVEN GO FURTHER BEYOND WHAT YOUR REQUIREMENTS REQUIRE. SO THE POINT THERE IS THAT THE LDC THAT YOU HAVE PROVIDES PROTECTION THAT A PUD WOULD DUPLICATE. AND SO THE TRANSNINE REGULATIONS IMPOSED, TYPICALLY DESIGNED FOR DEVELOPMENT SEEKING FLEXIBILITY FROM A STANDARD REGULATION AND NOT FOR DEVELOPMENTS THAT INTEND TO FULLY COMPLY WITH YOUR EXISTING LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. FORCING A PUD HERE I BELIEVE AND WOULD SUBMIT WOULD BE AN ATYPICAL USE OF THAT REGULATORY TOOL. AND I HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU. THIS IS SORT OF PIGGYBACKING ON THIS ISSUE, A MULTI-LAYERED REVIEW PROCESS. I JUST WANT YOU TO SEE VISUALLY, AND THIS IS PER YOUR CODE, THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH A MULTI-LAYERED PROCESS AFTER A REZONING, WHICH INCLUDES YOUR DRC, WHICH IS A VERY TECHNICAL REVIEW, ALONG WITH A PRELIMINARY FINAL SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS. WE ARE ALSO GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SERIES OF STATE AGENCY REVIEWS FROM THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND THE LIKE. WE'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING WITH AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOUR COUNTY ENGINEER STAFF ON THE ACCESS POINTS AND THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION AND THAT SORT OF THING. WE WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT, THAT THE APPLICANT IS NOT GOING TO NEARLY MEET BUT OFTENTIMES EXCEED THE COUNTY STANDARDS FOR ALL OF THESE FEATURES AND THESE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS. THE LAST SLIDE, THE FOURTH PAGE THAT YOU HAVE, IS TITLED STAFF ANALYSIS CRITERIA. THIS IS JUST TAKEN RIGHT OUT OF THE STAFF REPORT THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED AND IT JUST GOES THROUGH THE CRITERIA FROM YOUR CODE THAT IS REQUIRED TO PROVE AND JUSTIFY A REZONING AND IN EVERY CASE WE MEET THAT CRITERIA, WHICH OF COURSE SUPPORTS YOUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. SO WITH THAT, OBVIOUSLY WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. I JUST WANT TO CLOSE WITH A FEW POINTS TO SUMMARIZE. THE REZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE [02:20:02] DESIGNATION THAT HAS BEEN ON THERE FOR COMMERCIAL SINCE 2003. THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, GO THROUGH ALL EIGHT ZONING CRITERIA THAT WE MEET. THE DISTRICT REGULATIONS ALREADY CONTAIN MANDATORY ENFORCEABLE PROTECTIONS FOR SOUND, LIGHTING, VISUAL SCREENING, SETBACKS, NUISANCE PREVENTION AND THE LIKE AND ADDRESSES ALL THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED TO DATE. SO THEREFORE A PUD WE WOULD SUBMIT WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY IN THIS CASE BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO MEET ALL OF YOUR CONVENTIONAL STANDARDS AND EXCEED THEM. AND WE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE MULTIPLE LAYERS OF REVIEW, BOTH COUNTY AND STATE, AND TO SOME DEGREE FEDERAL. THE APPLICANT IS COMMITTED, WANTS TO BE A GREAT NEIGHBOR, THEY HAVE A VERY GOOD I THINK FUND OF GOODWILL IN THE COMMUNITY. SO IN LINE WITH YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AS WELL AS THE CITIZEN ADVISORY BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION, WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL AS WELL AND ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. >> ALL RIGHT. I HAVE DENISE ROBERTSON NEXT. >> MAKE SURE YOU OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> I THOUGHT I DID. I OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. AYE. >> GOOD EVENING, I RESIDE AT 3738 BEDFORD DRIVE MIDDLEBURG. I'M SPEAKING AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOXWOOD HOA WHICH IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED GAS STATION. WE RECOGNIZE THAT THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON APRIL SEVENTH AND IT'S INTENDED TO BRING DEVELOPMENT TO THE AREA THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE GAS STATION. WE ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT ALL PARTIES INVOLVED HAVE POSITIVE INTENTIONS FOR GROWTH AND PROGRESS. HOWEVER, WE WOULD LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY SHARE SEVERAL CONCERNS FROM OUR COMMUNITY. FIRST, THE CURRENT PLAN INCLUDES ONLY A 20-FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT RAISES CONCERNS ABOUT INCREASED NOISE LEVELS AND REDUCED QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE NEARBY HOMEOWNERS. SECOND, U.S., LIGHTING HAS BEEN ADDRESSED, IT IS STILL A MAJOR ISSUE FOR US. THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO OUR BACKYARDS AND SLEEPING AREAS, POTENTIALLY CREATING SIGNIFICANT LIGHT INTRUSION AT NIGHT. THIRD, WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT DRAINAGE. ANY CHANGES TO THE LAND COULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE EXISTING DRAINAGE PATTERNS AND LANDSCAPING WITHIN OUR SUBDIVISION. ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE ALREADY TWO GAS STATIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION ALONG COUNTY ROAD 220. THERE'S A 7-ELEVEN AND A CIRCLE K. WITH THE ADDITION OF THIS DAILIES, THERE WOULD BE THREE GAS STATIONS WITHIN A 12-MILE RADIUS ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE ROAD. WE THINK THAT THIS LEVEL OF SATURATION RAISES CONCERNS ABOUT LONG TERM VIABILITY. IF ONE BUSINESS FAILS, THE CURRENT ZONING ALLOWS FOR A WIDE RANGE OF COMMERCIAL USES, LEAVING RESIDENTS WITH LITTLE CONTROL OVER FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. WE ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT OUR HOA WAS UNAWARE OF THE OAK LEAF BRANDON RIDGE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING THAT WAS ON MARCH SECOND WHERE THE ZONING WAS DISCUSSED AND APPROVED. GREATER TRANSPARENCY AND COMMUNICATION WITH IMPACTED NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. FINALLY, TRAFFIC IS ALREADY A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN. NIGHT BOX ROAD AND COUNTY ROAD 220 EXPERIENCE HIGH VOLUMES AND RESIDENTS ALREADY STRUGGLE WITH SAFE INGRESS AND EGRESS, ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS WILL ONLY WORSEN THESE CONDITIONS. OUR REQUEST, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THE BOARD TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING. CHANGING THE ZONING FROM A BB2 BLANKET COMMERCIAL TO A PUD. ALSO ASKING TO GIVE US TO ENSURE MORE CONTROLLED AND APPROPRIATE USE OF THE PROPERTY. WE ARE ALSO ASKING TO ESTABLISH A LARGER AND MORE EFFECTIVE BUFFER BETWEEN THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE BOXWOOD SUBDIVISION. WE REQUIRE THE ADDITION OF A TURN LANE ON NIGHT BOX ROAD TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC SAFETY. WE ALSO ASK TO DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT A COMPREHENSIVE DRAINAGE PLAN TO PROTECT SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. IN CLOSING WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO GROWTH BUT WE ARE ASKING FOR THOUGHTFUL, RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT THAT PROTECTS THE EXISTING RESIDENTS AND ASSURES LONG TERM COMMUNITY STABILITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING AGAIN. OAK BRANDON RIDGE. FOR THE MEETING WE HAD REGARDING [02:25:03] THIS TOPIC, WE DID NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC INPUT. SO HEARING NOW THAT TIMING AND NOTIFICATION WAS AN ISSUE, THAT MAKES MORE SENSE. I WAS GOING TO OFFER MYSELF UP FROM ANY QUESTIONS. WE DID HAVE ONE MEMBER OF THE BOARD WHO DOES LIVE NEARBY THAT AREA AND WAS QUITE EXCITED ABOUT HAVING A NEW BUSINESS THERE. IT SEEMED THAT THE GENTLEMAN UP BEFORE ME, HE TALKED ABOUT THE DEVEOPMENT. THEY DID SEEM TO HAVE-- THEY WANTED TO PROVIDE MORE THAN THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR BUFFERING AND FOR SOUND, THEY WANTED TO BUILD A BRICK WALL. THE LIGHTING. SO I DO FEEL KIND OF BAD THAT THE LOCAL NEIGHBORS NEARBY DID NOT GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND OUR MEETING BUT BASED OFF THE INFORMATION WE HAD AT THE TIME, THAT'S WHAT WE HAD TO MAKE THE DECISION. WE WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO ADDING MORE BUSINESSES TO THE AREA SO THIS WAS AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY. I WILL OFFER MYSELF UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU MIGHT HAVE ANY FOR US FROM THE,. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE TO TALK ON THIS? >> ADDRESS ON FILE. I ATTENDED THE PLANNING AND ZONING ON THIS ONE AND THAT WAS ONE OF MY CONCERNS, WAS THE BB2 ZONING AND THE BLANKET ZONING. I PERSONALLY DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DID NOT DO A PUD BECAUSE I KNOW AS A REALTOR, ONCE YOU SELL THAT LAND, OR IF SOMEBODY CHOOSES NOT TO BUY-MAC IT, THE INTENTIONS GO AWAY. AND SO WHAT DOES THAT LEAVE IT OPEN TO? AND SO WHEN YOU ALL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, THERE ARE TWO OTHER-- AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA SAID, TWO OTHER GAS STATIONS THAT ARE FURTHER IN DEVELOPMENT AND BEING BUILT AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS ONE WALKS AWAY ONCE IT'S REZONED? AND SO BEING CAUTIOUS, HAVING THE PUD I THINK WOULD HAVE MADE MORE SENSE. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DID NOT DO THAT BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU ALL DO. >> THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE, I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. >> MADAM CHAIR, I THOUGHT THE HOA PRESIDENT, I DID NOT WRITE YOUR NAME DOWN I APOLOGIZE, BUT I THOUGHT WHAT WAS SAID WAS REASONABLE AND THE REQUEST THAT WAS MADE. AND THAT THEY ARE NOT OPPOSED, THEY JUST WANT THEIR PROTECTIONS. I WAS ALSO CONCERNED WITH THE BB2. BB IS JUST WHAT BB CAN BE. IT IS CLOSE TO THEIR RESIDENTIAL BUT IT'S NOT CLOSE TO A SCHOOL, NOT REALLY CLOSE TO A CHURCH I DON'T THINK ANY MORE. I'M NOT SURE. SO THEN THAT DOES PROTECT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM ALL THE NEFARIOUS THINGS THAT IT CAN BE. BEING ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL. IT PROTECTS IT THERE. THAT'S A LITTLE MORE COMFORTING. BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT. I JUST THOUGHT THAT THE THINGS REASONABLE SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN PUSH THE TWO TOGETHER. WITH IT BEING A STRAIGHT REZONING, THEY CAN'T L CAN'T MAKE CHANGES ON THE FLY, RIGHT? >> YOU ARE RELIANT ON STAFF TO FOLLOW THE CODE AND THE DRC REVIEW. >> YEAH. I HAVE EVERY CONFIDENCE IN YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND CERTAINLY I THINK THE PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW IN FACT THEY HAVE BEEN THROUGH A LOT WITH YOU RECENTLY IN THE PUBLIC. >> YEAH, I THINK FOR ME ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS IS WE APPROVED THE GAS STATION THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING DEVELOPED AT COLLEGE AND 220 BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT SITUATION. THERE'S NOT ANY HOUSES RIGHT THERE NEAR IT. I DON'T KNOW IF DAILY'S MAKES A MODEL WITHOUT A CAR WASH BUT I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS CONCERNING TO ME, WITH THAT BEING RIGHT IN THEIR BACKYARD. AND WITH THE EXPANSION OF 220, I DON'T FORESEE ANY ONE USING THAT PARCEL THAT IS IN THE INTERSECTION FOR AR. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO PUT A FARM RIGHT THERE. OR, YOU KNOW, A HOME. SO IT'S DEFINITELY COMMERCIAL AREA AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE [02:30:02] PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET IS B A. RIGHT NEXT TO THE POND. BUT WITH THE BB, IT'S PRETTY WIDESPREAD. I THINK THIS ONE NEEDS A LOT MORE WORK. I PREFERABLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND I LOOKED IN THE BACKUP, I DID NOT SEE A SITE PLAN YET OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. >> MADAM CHAIR COULD I ASK A QUESTION? BETH, BECAUSE IT'S IN THE MASTER PLAN-- IT'S NOT IN THE MASTER PLAN. IT JUST WENT TO BRANDON RIDGE-- OKAY. THAT'S THE OTHER THING TOO. BECAUSE IN THE BRANDON FIELD MASTER PLAN, WE DID THAT REALLY GREAT WORK WITH WHAT CAR WASHES LIKE YOU KNOW FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PROTECTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE IN THEIR TOO. AGAIN, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT AND I KNOW THAT I HEARD THE AGENT, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DID NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE OWNED IT FOR 20 SOME ODD YEARS AND SO THEY PROBABLY DON'T INTEND TO DO ANY OF THE NEFARIOUS THINGS BB COULD DO SO I'M OKAY WITH THAT. BUT THE PROTECTIONS, BECAUSE STAFF CAN'T ASK FOR THOSE PROTECTIONS ON THE CAR WASH STUFF IF IT'S NOT A PUD. YOU CAN ASK BUT THEY AREN'T REQUIRED TO DO THEM AND I MEAN I THINK MORE THAN LIGHTING, YOU GUYS SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT THE NOISE FROM A CAR WASH. BLOWERS BLOWING TOWARDS YOU. WHAT WE PUT IN THE MASTER VENT IS THEY HAVE TO FACE-- FOR INSTANCE, THERE'S ONE THAT FACES-- IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT WAS GOING TO LOOK IN THE PICTURES TODAY WHEN I DRIVE BY THERE. IT KIND OF IRRITATES ME. HOWEVER THE BLOWERS ENDMAC FA FACES-- LANDING DOESN'T FACE ANY HOUSES OR ANYTHING. THERE ARE VERY GOOD STANDARDS. >> THEY ARE 4220 RIGHT THERE AND WE ARE GAINING INFRASTRUCTURE. >> DOES THE TIMING LINE UP? >> WHEN ARE WE OPENING? I WANT TO HEAR IT ONE MORE TIME. >> THAT IS NOT TRUE. [LAUGHTER] >> HE DID GET A HAIRCUT. >> WE ARE GETTING INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE OF WHAT WE ARE DOING THERE. ANY QUESTIONS? >> NO QUESTION, JUST A COMMENT. I AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER CONCERNING THE NOISE. BECAUSE OF WHAT WE HAVE ENCOUNTERED. MY DISTRICT EXPERIENCED THE NOISE OF A CAR WASH BECAUSE WE HAD ONE RIGHT OFF OF ROYAL PINES AND OAKLEAF PLANTATION PARKWAY THAT CAUSED PROBLEMS. THE OTHER THING THAT CATCHES MY ATTENTION IS STEVEN CAME UP HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE CAC AND SO TWO THINGS JUMP OUT AT ME IMMEDIATELY. I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THE NOTICE PIECE, AS TO WHY. MAYBE IT'S A BOUNDARY THING. I'M NOT SURE. I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHY. THE SECOND THING THAT IS PROBABLY MORE ALARMING IS THAT WHEN I SPOKE, STEVEN AGAIN JOGGED MY MEMORY. THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING IN RIGHT AT CAMERON OAKS. HIS NEIGHBORHOOD. ABOUT NINE MONTHS AGO, TEN MONTHS AGO, HIS HOA ASKED ME TO COME OUT BECAUSE OF HOW BAD THE RUNOFF WAS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND WE SAW HOMES, MULTIPLE HOMES HAVING TO USE THEIR OWN SYSTEMS TO GET THE WATER OUT OF THEIR OWN YARD. I KNOW THAT DRAINAGE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BELIEVE YOU ME, I'M LOOKING AT SOME SERIOUS DRAINAGE ISSUES ON TYNES BOULEVARD AND SYSTEMS FAILING. BUT IT ALWAYS GIVES ME PAUSE WHEN THERE IS SO MUCH THAT IS LEFT TO DISCRETION AND GOOD WILL AND ASKING BUT NOT NECESSARILY HAVING IT CODIFIED IN WRITING. SO FOR ME, I AGREE WITH THE PUBLIC WHO SAID WHY NOT A PUD? I HEAR YOUR POINT LOUD AND CLEAR. THEY HAVE OWNED IT FOR A WHILE AND SO YOU ARE NOT REALLY EXPECTING ANYTHING NEFARIOUS. BUT LIGHT POLLUTION IS ALSO A CONCERN. BUT I THINK THAT THAT WAS-- I DO BELIEVE THAT WAS ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED. AND I HAVE NOTICED THAT THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER PROJECTS IN THE COUNTY WHERE WE HAD TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS LIGHT [02:35:02] POLLUTION SO I'M NOT TOO CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BUT DRAINAGE IS A BIG DEAL, NOTICE IS A BIG DEAL. AND THE WIDE LATITUDE AND WIDE DISCRETION THAT A BB2 OFFERS HERE GIVES ME SIGNIFICANT CONCERN. >> OKAY. >> CAN WE GO OVER THAT? WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED, BECAUSE WE KNOW CERTAIN THINGS AREN'T ALLOWED, BUT WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT RESIDENTIAL AREA MIGHT BE CONCERNED ABOUT? >> IT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF USES THAT COULD BE THERE. APPLIANCE SALES AND SERVICE, AUTOMOTIVE PARTS, AUTOMOTIVE RENTAL. BUT IT GOES BACK TO OTHER DISTRICTS. YOU COULD HAVE JUST ABOUT ANY KIND OF COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, COMMERCIAL USE IN HERE, IN THIS DISTRICT. IT'S PRETTY BROAD. >> THE GOOD THING IS THIS IS DAILY'S. HAS ANY DAILY'S BIT THE DUST? I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING ANY. THAT'S ONE GOOD THING WE KNOW, THE NAME OF DAILY'S, I THINK WE ARE PRETTY SAFE THERE. I'M GOING TO WAIT ONE SECOND. >> MY ONLY CONCERN, I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE, HAVING MORE CONTROL, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET THERE FROM HERE. >> WOULD HAVE TO REAPPLY. >> WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE NOTICE? >> THE NOTICE, AS FAR AS THE NOTICE FR WHAT? THE. CAC IS NOT REALLY A PUBLIC MEETING. THE CAC IS REALLY YOUR APPOINTED COMMITTEE OF CITIZENS AND IT'S INTENDED FOR THEM TO GIVE THEIR VIEW AS RESIDENTS IN THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT. >> IF YOU SEE A REZONING SIGN THERE WILL MOST LIKELY BE A CAC MEETING? >> IF THERE IS A CAC THAT EXISTS IN THAT DISTRICT BUT THE SIGNS DONT NOTIFY WHEN THE MEETING IS." SIGNS GIVE THEM MEETINGS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE THOSE ARE IN-- THOSE ARE INTENDED TO BE PUBLIC. >> REALLY IT DOES NOT TAKE EVERYTHING THEY SAY. THEY WILL MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS, SAME WITH US. >> THE CAC IS DESIGNED TO BE A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU, THE BOARD, NOT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IT IS SPELLED OUT IN THE ORDINANCE THAT IT'S APPOINTED BY YOU TO BE YOUR RECOMMENDING BODY. SO WE TRY AND IF POSSIBLE SCHEDULE THAT MEETING PRIOR TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND IF WE HAVE RESULTS WE PROVIDE THAT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BUT IT'S NOT REQUIRED BEFORE THEIR DECISION BECAUSE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GIVING YOU AN INDEPENDENT DECISION. >> ALL RIGHT. >> IF I MAY, I WILL GIVE IT A SHOT BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE VERY GOOD ANSWERS TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS AND IT MAY VERY WELL HELP IF I MAY AND IF I MAY APPROACH, I HAVE THE SITE PLAN. IT'S NOT REQUIRED OF THE CONVENTIONAL REZONING, BUT WE DID-- WE ACTUALLY APPLIED-- WHEN WE MADE THE APPLICATION, WE PUT THE SITE PLAN IN THERE. >> I WAS LOOKING TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE YOU WOULD BE PUTTING THINGS. >> I'M HAPPY TO SHARE BECAUSE I THINK A PICTURE SAYS 1000 WORDS AND IF I MAY APPROACH AND GIVE YOU A COPY OF EACH. I CAN WALK YOU THROUGH IT. I THINK IT WILL ADDRESS MANY OF THE-- I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THIS WITH DENISE ROBERTSON TOO. >> I'VE GOT YOUR NAME NOW. THANK YOU. >> WE SPOKE. VERY PLEASANT CONVERSATION AND I THINK WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. REAL BRAVE, JUST BEFORE I GET TO THE SITE PLAN, TO SIX TOPICS I BELIEVE THAT MISS ROBERTSON BROUGHT UP, AGAIN, VERY REASONABLE, AND WE WILL ADDRESS EACH ONE. ALL NOTICE REQUIREMENTS WERE MET, WHETHER THE MAILER, THE PUBLICATION, THE SIGNS. I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT, THERE WAS NO NOTICE ISSUE. >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CAC SO THAT'S DIFFERENT. >> GOT YOU. THE CURRENT PLAN AS YOU CAN SEE CACTUS IS THE FIRST COMMENT THAT MISS ROBERTSON BROUGHT UP, THERE IS CERTAINLY THE 20-FOOT BUFFER THAT IS REQUIRED ALONG WITH THE VEGETATIVE COMPONENT TO IT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, VERY TINY. MUCH BETTER OFF ON A PDF THAT YOU CAN ZOOM IN ON ONLINE, BUT THERE'S ACTUALLY ANOTHER 30 FEET UNTIL YOU EVEN GET TO THE BUILDING. THE BUILDING, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN 8-ACRE SITE WITH AN 8000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. REALLY BEING THE MAIN BUILDING ON AN 8-ACRE SITE. THAT'S HUGE. THE BUILDING AS YOU CAN SEE FROM [02:40:01] THE SITE PLAN IS ACTUALLY BEING POSITIONED ON AS YOU CAN SEE THE EASTERLY PORTION. WHAT THAT MEANS IS NUMBER 1, YOU HAVE AT LEAST 50 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE VEGETATIVE REQUIREMENTS. NUMBER 2, THE BUILDING, WHICH IS THE MOST VERTICAL PART OF THE SITE, IS LITERALLY ON THE PART OF THE PROPERTY THAT EVEN WITH THE EXTENSIVE BUFFER IS-- YOU SEE THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH? IT'S A HOME WITH A BUNCH OF OUTDOOR AUTOMOBILES, BOATS, I'M NOT SURE WHAT ELSE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE AERIAL, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S A LOT FOR BOAT SALES. I DON'T KNOW. >> I DON'T KNOW EITHER. >> NOT CASTING JUDGMENT BUT JUST SAYING THAT'S THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH. >> NOT PART OF THE HOA EVIDENTLY. >> I DON'T THINK SO. I DON'T THINK DENISE WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT. >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE HOME WITH ALL THE BOATS AND EVERYTHING, THE BUILDING IS IN FRONT OF THAT. >> SO IF YOU TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT THEN, REALLY, THE HOUSE IS IN THE BOXWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD WE ARE CONCERNED WITH WOULD BE THE ONES THAT ARE THE WESTERLY HALF OF THE SITE. AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, IF YOU SEE THE ONE, TWO, THREE, THOSE FIVE HOUSES, THE SIX HOUSES KIND OF HAD A SLANT, THEY ARE ALL GOING TO BE-- THE COMPONENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BE CLOSEST TO THEM IS THE POND. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? NOW, AGAIN IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO SEE WITHOUT GLASSES OR A MAGNIFYING GLASS. IF YOU SEE THE CAR WASH THAT IS PROPOSED THERE, WE ARE GOING TO PUT-- THIS IS NOT REQUIRED BY YOUR CODE BUT WE WILL PUT IT ANYWAY. LET ME BACK UP FOR A SECOND. THE CAR WASH ITSELF WILL BE OPERATED WITH AN ENCLOSED SOUND DAMPENED EQUIPMENT AND WE WILL BE INSTALLING-- NOT REQUIRED BY CODE, WE WILL EXCEED YOUR CODE, AN 8-FOOT MASONRY SOUND BARRIER WALL TO THE NORTH ALONGSIDE-- THAT'S GOING TO BE COMPLETELY BUFFERED, THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE VEGETATIVE AND SETBACK BUFFER THAT IS ALREADY GOING TO BE REQUIRED. AND LET ME GO BACK TO THE SLIDE I GAVE YOU GUYS EARLIER. >> ONE SECOND, SORRY." IN THE CAR WASH, THEY WILL BE DRIVING CLOSEST TO THE HOUSES AND GOING TOWARDS TWO TOO? SO THE DRAWING AREA WOULD BE CLOSEST TO 220? >> CORRECT. >> ARE THERE VACUUMS OUTSIDE THE CAR WASH? >> THEY USUALLY HAVE THAT LITTLE-- >> YOU DON'T HAVE VACUUMS OR ANYTHING? >> TYPICALLY THERE ARE BUT YOU PROBABLY WON'T SEE IT ON THE SITE MAP. >> IS IT THE BIG VACUUMS? USUALLY JUST LIKE LITTLE STATIONS WITH AIR AND A VACUUM? >> CORRECT. >> THAT'S WHAT THEY USUALLY HAVE. >> BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, AND THIS IS AGAIN LAUNDRY LISTED ON THE BUILT IN PROTECTIONS, YOU HAVE A ZERO TOLERANCE STANDARD FOR NOISE, SO THERE CAN BE NO SOUND PERMITTED OFF SITE. LIGHTING, THERE WILL BE ZERO SPILLAGE. WE ALREADY KNOW THIS FROM OUR OWN PHOTOMETRIC PLANS WE DO WITH ALL OF OUR SITES, BUT THERE WILL BE ZERO SPILLAGE AND YOUR CODE REQUIRES IT. YOU HAVE THE VISUAL BUFFERS, THE SETBACK BUFFERS, THE NUISANCE USES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, ADULT ENTERTAINMENT OR WHATEVER IT IS, YOU ARE FURTHER GIRDED BY THE FACT THAT YOU ARE SURROUNDED BY THE RESIDENTIAL, THE VERY FACT THERE IS RESIDENTIAL EVERYWHERE IS THE VERY FACT THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW CERTAIN USES, INCLUDING THE LIQUOR ESTABLISHMENT USE. AND SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHILE THE SITE PLAN TECHNICALLY ISN'T REQUIRED FOR THE CONVENTIONAL ZONING, WE DID INCLUDE IT IN OUR APPLICATION. I KNOW YOU CAN'T CONDITION A CONVENTIONAL REZONING BUT THAT'S WHAT WE ARE BUILDING. WE HAVE OWNED IT FOR 20 YEARS, WHICH THE POINT IN THAT IS THAT WE ARE DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY, NOT SELLING IT. I CAN GO ON BUT I DON'T WANT TO BURDEN YOUR TIME. BUT I DO WANT TO ADDRESS THE POINTS THAT ARE WELL GOING TO BE MET WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WE ARE GOING TO PROPOSE. THE DRAINAGE ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, WE ARE GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH AN EXTENSIVE FDPE AND WATER MANAGEMENT PERMIT THAT WOULD REQUIRE US TO NOT JUST MEET DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS BUT IMPROVE THE SITE. I WOULD SUBMIT THAT THE SITE WILL BE DRAINING BETTER THAN IT IS TODAY WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT GOES IN. AND THAT'S IN ADDITION-- WE HAVE ALREADY HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH YOUR COUNTY ENGINEERS. WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING HAND-IN-HAND WITH THEM AND FDOT [02:45:04] ON ANY TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS IF THEY RE REQUIRED. WE HAVE BUILT-- WE HAVE A GOOD AND REASONABLE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION FOR THAT SITE. >> SO WHAT IS YOUR ANSWER TO THE QUESTION EVERYONE IS ASKING, P D? >> WE ASK THERE IS NO NECESSITY BECAUSE YOUR CODE ALREADY REQUIRES US TO MEET A HOST OF REQUIREMENTS. I WILL BE HONEST, WHEN I DEAL IN JACKSONVILLE AND OTHER PLACES CACTUS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN SORT OF A DESIRE FOR A PUD. USUALLY PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO MAKE THE-- BECAUSE YOU CREATE A CODE AND HOPEFULLY THAT WORKS FOR YOUR COMMUNITY FOR THE MOST PART BUT WE UNDERSTAND THERE WILL BE A NEED SOME TIME TO TAILOR ZONING DISTRICT TO A PARTICULAR SPOT. WE DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES. TYPICALLY YOU DO A PUD FOR THE DEVELOPER TO FLEX ON SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MEET IT. A PUD IN SOME SENSE CACTUS IS NOT A LEGAL WAY OF DESCRIBING IT BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY IT'S CONTRACT ZONING BUT REALLY IT'S A PACKAGE OF VARIANCES. WE THOUGHT THAT BB2-- AND BY THE WAY BB2 IS YOUR MODERATE-- I KNOW THERE'S SOME GENERAL COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARE ALLOWED BUT IT'S NOT YOUR BB THREE OR MOST INTENSE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. I WOULD CALL IT A MODERATE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT THAT IS VERY WELL SUITED FOR THIS SITE AND VERY WELL SUITED FOR THE OVERRIDING FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. SO FOR ALL THOSE REASONS, WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR IT. AND AGAIN, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE-- THERE'S ANOTHER SITE I BROUGHT UP THE SEVENTH STEP PROCESS, WE WILL GO THROUGH DRC, THROUGH PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN APPROVAL, FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL. THESE ARE ALL INTERJECTED POINTS OR JUNCTURES WHERE NOT JUST YOUR STAFF BUT FOLKS THAT ARE INTERESTED CAN CERTAINLY SEE THAT WE ARE DOING WHAT WE COMMITTED WE WOULD DO. SO WE BELIEVE THERE IS PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY AND ENTRY POINTS TO CHALLENGE THIS. THAT'S NOT EVEN TO SAY WHEN WE GET TO THE BUILDING PERMITS, YOU KNOW, PART OF THIS WHERE THOSE CAN BE CHALLENGED AS WELL IF WE ARE NOT DOING WHAT WE SAY WE WILL DO. >> I JUST HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED. I JUST FORGOT HER NAME ALREADY, I'M SO SORRY. ROBERTSON. I WAS GOING TO SAY RICHARDSON AND I KNEW THAT WAS NOT RIGHT. I APOLOGIZE. THAT'S RIGHT. RICHARD. THE QUESTION THAT SHE HAD ABOUT A TURN LANE ON NIGHT BOX. BECAUSE OF BACKING UP AT THAT LIGHT. ESPECIALLY FOR THE SCHOOL. SO I JUST WAS WONDERING YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT. >> I THINK YOUR ENGINEER WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT. >> THANKS. >> RICHARD SMITH, COUNTY ENGINEER. THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE MEETING. I USE THE TERM WE HAVE PLANS. THIS IS THE BIG PICTURE I LOOK AT. THAT'S ONE OF OUR MOBILITY ROADS AND ON OUR TPO LIST. IDEALLY I WOULD WANT COLLEGE DRIVE TO BECOME OUR NICE DESTINATION BOULEVARD AND NIGHT BOX TO BE OUR TRUCK ROUTE WHICH MEANS WE NEED TO MAKE A FOUR LANE UNDIVIDED ROAD SAFER. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE LEFT TURNS ANYWHERE. MADE THE COMMENT THAT IF HE DOES GET A LEFT TURN OFF OF NIGHT BOX INTO THE PROJECT, BASICALLY HE'S SETTING THAT UP FOR THE REST OF OUR ROAD. WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSED THAT. WE DO-- WE DON'T REALLY ENVISION NIGHT BOX EXTENDING SOUTH TO MAKE A FOUR WAY INTERSECTION THERE SO WE FEEL LIKE-- I FEEL LIKE WHEN THE BRIDGE OPENS IN A FEW MONTHS, WE CAN GO BACK TO A NORMAL SINGLE LEFT TURN LANE GOING EASTBOUND ON 220 AND A RIGHT TURN WESTBOUND LANE. THEY WILL ADD A FIFTH LANE IN THE MIDDLE THAT WOULD SERVE THEIR PROJECT AND WE COULD GET-- THEY WILL PROVIDE A STRIPING PLAN FOR IT. >> WHILE YOU ARE UP THERE, WOULD THEY ALSO BE REQUIRED TO PUT IN SIDEWALKS? >> SIDEWALKS, THERE ARE-- ALREADY SIDEWALKS ON 220 AND THEY WOULD BRING IT DOWN TO THE PROPERTY LINE. >> TO THE WEST SIDE. >> NIGHT BOX, YES. THERE WILL BE SIDEWALKS ALONG NIGHT BOX THAT WILL BE VASTLY IMPROVED. AS ALWAYS, THERE'S A GAP THERE. THERE WILL BE A GAP BETWEEN THEM AND THE PINEWOOD CHURCH, THAT WOULD BE ONE FOR THE SIDEWALK TO BE PUT IN. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING DIFFERENT? [02:50:04] >> EVERYTHING THAT RICHARD, WE TALKED ABOUT ADDING ADDITIONAL LANE, WE ARE COMMITTED TO DOING THAT. AND ONCE WE GET INTO DESIGN, YOUR STAFF IS GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW OUR DESIGN. THAT'S WHEN WE COME IN FOR THAT. >> I'M GOING TO PULL THE PLEASURE OF THE CHAIR UP HERE CAN YOU LET US KNOW, ARE YOU-- CAN YOU COME BACK UP? I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN DISCUSSING BACK THERE. I SAW LIGHTING HAS TO BE POINTED AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL. MAYBE IF YOU POINTED ON THAT MAN'S HOUSE, HE'LL STRAIGHTEN UP HIS-- >> IF HE CAN SEE THE JUNK. >> WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? >> WE WERE REVIEWING THE SITE PLAN. WE WERE SITTING THERE GOING THERE'S MY HOUSE, THERE'S MY HOUSE, THERE'S MY HOUSE. LOOK, THEY CAN JUST JUMP RIGHT INTO MY POOL IN MY BACKYARD. I KNOW THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT A 20-FOOT BUFFER, TALKING ABOUT A WALL. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT ON THE SITE, YOU CAN SEE OUR HOUSES RIGHT THERE. AND SO OUR BEDROOMS ARE RIGHT THERE. I JUST I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE THERE, WE KNOW THAT. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, WOULD YOU WANT TO LIVE THERE WITH THAT HAPPENING IN YOUR BACKYARD? >> I HEAR YOU. >> MADAM CHAIR, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WHEN I INITIALLY GOT THE SITE PLAN I GOT EXCITED ABOUT IS I THOUGHT THAT THE 8-FOOT WALL WENT THE ENTIRE LNGTH OF THE PROJECT. IT'S JUST AROUND THE CAR WASH. I THINK THAT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE, AN 8-FOOT WALL. >> 6-FOOT FENCE. >> AND TREES THAT ARE-- >> 20-FOOT BUFFER. >> YEAH. >> WOULD YOU BE LEAVING THAT VEGETATION THERE? DOES THAT STAY? ON THE PICTURE IT'S THERE. DOES THAT STAY OR IS THAT NOT ABLE TO HAPPEN? >> , I'M SORRY. THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES. TO THE EXTENT THAT I HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT THE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS ARE, IF WE HAVE TO SUPPLEMENT IT, THEN WE WILL. THAT IS SOMETHING WE WILL BE LOOKING AT AT THAT TIME. >> HOW MANY FEET IS THAT, BETWEEN THE HOUSES AND THE VEGETATION? >> THAT'S AT LEAST 20, 25 FEET, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL. LIKE I SAID, THERE'S ANOTHER 30-FOOT-- SO DEFINITELY 20 FEET. >> WOULD YOU CUT ANYTHING DOWN? >> NOT IN THAT 20 FEET, NO. >> I LIKE THAT. >> I WAS JUST TALKING TO THE HEAD OF REAL ESTATE, HE WAS MENTIONING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A LITTLE OFF THE CUFF BUT WE WILL TAKE IT INTO ACCOUNT AT THE RIGHT TIME, WE COULD PROBABLY EVEN ADD ANOTHER AT LEAST 5 FEET. WE WILL SEE IF THERE'S MORE. SO AT LEAST 25 FEET. >> THAT'S NOT REQUIRED. OTHER PROPERTIES I KNOW, AS LONG AS THEY DO THE BUFFER YOU HAVE SAID, THEY CAN CUT DOWN THAT, CORRECT? >> THEY COULD CUT DOWN BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO HAVE A 6-FOOT VISUAL BARRIER, WHETHER IT'S THE FENCE, THE WALL. >> I'D MUCH RATHER HAVE ALL OF THESE TREES HERE THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CUT DOWN AT ALL. >> THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CUT DOWN, BUT THE WALL WILL REQUIRE SOME CLEARING TO MAKE SPACE TO PUT THE WALL IN. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT NEEDS O BE CLEAR. I DON'T WANT ANY MISCONCEPTION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THEY MIGHT HAVE TO REMOVE SOMETHING TO PUT THE WALL IN. >> THEY'RE STILL 20 FEET OF VEGETATION? >> YES. >> CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS? THAT YOU DON'T CUT ANYTHING DOWN? >> I BELIEVE WE CAN COMMIT TO THAT RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE AT A MINIMUM WE COULD ADD ANOTHER 5 FEET. TO YOUR ZONING STAFF POINT, WE WILL BE PUTTING I BELIEVE, AND AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE THE GRANULAR DETAILS WILL BRING THIS TO FRUITION, A 6-FOOT FENCE BARRIER TO FURTHER BUFFER. BUT THE CLEARING FOR THAT I DON'T BELIEVE WILL BE MORE THAN 5 FEET. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, WE COULD MEET THAT. [02:55:01] >> I WILL TELL YOU THERE WILL BE SOMETHING HERE AND FOR HIM TO KEEP 25-FOOT VEGETATION, I WOULD TAKE IT IN A HEARTBEAT. I'M JUST SAYING. SOMETHING IS GOING TO BE HERE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A BIG DEAL THAT THEY ARE GIVING THAT AND AGREEING TO SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE RIGHT THIS SECOND FOR IT. >> FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH, WE ARE HAPPY TO-- SHE'S A PLEASANT LADY, WE ARE HAPPY. IF SHE WASN'T PLEASANT I MIGHT NOT BUT WE ARE COMMITTED TO COMMUNICATING WITH HER ALONG THE WAY. I MEAN IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT BUT, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WE WANT TO BE A GOOD STEWARD AND NEIGHBOR. I WILL TELL YOU THAT FIRST COAST ENERGY TAKES A LOT OF PRIDE. I KNOW IT'S MY CLIENT SO TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT BUT THEY ARE TOP NOTCH AND VERY BIG ON THE COMMUNITY. >> PERSONALLY CACTUS IS MY DISTRICT SO I DON'T WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE IF I DON'T HAVE TO. I STAY AWAY. WHAT RICHARD IS SAYING, THAT DAILY'S. NIGHT BOX, WHICH IS OF COURSE WHY WE MISSED THAT OPENING, WE HAVE TO GO OVER THE BRIDGE. TO NOT HAVE TO GO FURTHER IN THEIR TRAFFIC WISE IS A VERY WELCOME THING. AND DAILY'S CACTUS IS A LOT LARGER I THINK THAN WHAT WE ARE GETTING AT THE OTHER GAS STATION BUT DID YOU NOT SAY THAT THERE WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO SIT OUTSIDE AND EAT AND SO THE NEIGHBORS WILL BE ABLE TO WALK THERE AND. >> THERE'S A PREMIUM DAILY'S COMPONENT TO THIS WITH SANDWICHES AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS WITH SOME SEATING, THAT'S CORRECT. >> ANYBODY? >> MY ONLY COMMENT IS FIVE OF THE SIX HOMES ARE ADJACENT TO A POND. SO I WOULD NOT BE WORRIED TOO MUCH ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LOOKING IN TO MY BACKYARD. THERES A POND THERE. NOBODY IS GOING TO BE THERE. >> LOOKS LIKE THERE'S TWO. THE ONE, THE POOL IS WAY FAR AWAY. IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE THAN 25 FEET IT LOOKS LIKE. >> THEY SAID THEY WOULD HAVE THAT 8-FOOT WALL THERE FOR THE CAR WASH. >> THAT'S RIGHT THERE WHERE THOSE TWO ONES ARE. >> YEAH. >> REAL QUICK, BETH, THE 6-FOOT FENCE, IT HAS TO GO THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE PROPERTY? >> YES, IT DOES. >> ELK IN FRONT. >> IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO THE FENCE OPTION, YES. >> AS OPPOSED TO WHAT? >> A 6-FOOT HEDGE OR 6-FOOT WALL. THOSE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS. >> IS IT THAT BIG A DEAL TO HAVE A WALL? DAILY'S HAS MONEY. [LAUGHTER] >> HOW ABOUT THAT 8-FOOT WALL GOING THE WHOLE WAY? >> IT'S NOT THE WHOLE PROPERTY, IT'S UNTIL NIGHT BOX. FROM WHERE YOU ARE BUILDING IT ALREADY TO NIGHT BOX. >> WE ARE DEFINITELY OPEN TO-- AND THIS IS WHERE WE WILL WORK WITH YOUR STAFF. IF THERE'S A-- WE WANT TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT OF YOUR CODE. WHETHER THE 6-FOOT ENTIRE PERIMETER OF FENCE, HEDGE OR WALL. >> WE ARE ASKING YOU TO AGREE TO US. >> OH, I SEE, I'M SORRY. YOU ARE SAYING A WALL FOR THE ENTIRETY? >> JUST FROM WHERE YOU ARE ALREADY BUILDING IT TO NIGHT BOX. >> I SEE. NOT THE POND PART. >> CORRECT. THOSE PEOPLE AREN'T REALLY GOING TO BE AFFECTED. >> THEY ARE STILL GOING TO GET A WALL. YOU WILL STILL HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. >> A FENCE OR WHATEVER. >> WE HAVE TO DO THAT, ABSOLUTELY. >> ABOUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO AGREE TO RIGHT NOW. >> I WOULD LIKE THE WALL THE WHOLE WAY. >> WE CAN DO THAT. IF THAT'S WHAT THE PREFERENCE IS, WE CAN DO THAT. >> IT JUST MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT-- I MEAN I HEAR WHAT THEY ARE SAYING, THEY MOVED IN THERE, WHO KNOWS HOW MANY YEARS AGO. I DON'T THINK THEY JUST MOVED IN. 20 YEARS AGO. AND I GET IT-- >> WE HEARD THAT EVERY DAY, TRUST ME. >> BUT IF YOU ARE THE ONE THAT OWNS THE HOME, YOU WORRY ABOUT YOUR PROPERTY VALUE. IF YOU'VE EVER HAD TO SELL, WHICH YOU DON'T PLAN TO BUT YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. SO I THINK THAT HAVING A WALL BEHIND THERE WOULD BE A BETTER-- AND THEN YOU CAN PLANT SOME TREES THAT WILL GO REALLY HIGH. BETH IS A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. SHE SAYS BY BURNHAM IS A GOOD ONE. >> YOU ARE ALREADY GOING TO HAVE VERY TALL TREES, NOT CUTTING THOSE DOWN. THAT'S GOING TO BE GREAT. WE CAN AGREE ON THAT TONIGHT TOO? >> YOU SAID THE 25-FOOT? [03:00:02] 25 FEET OF THE VEGETATIVE BUFFER BUT ONLY CUT-- >> SHE JUST GAVE ME A LOOK. >> BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE TO. >> I KNOW EXACTLY. WE HAVE TO BE NOT TRUSTING BECAUSE THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN ALL THE TIME. >> JUST FOR CLARITY, BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE ANY MINIMAL CLEARING FOR THE WALL ITSELF, THAT WILL HAVE TO BE DONE. OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE WILL LEAVE THAT UNTOUCHED. BY THE WAY, I THINK I MENTIONED IT EARLIER, BUT FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH, THE BLACK CREEK PUD APPROVED IN 2005 WHICH HAS EXPIRED, IT WAS ON THE WHOLE 14 ACRES, THAT HAD 6000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL OFFICE AND INSTITUTIONAL USES AND ALSO BY THE WAY 55 RESIDENTIAL HOMES. AGAIN, JUST SAYING. >> WHEN YOU SAID THAT, I COULD NOT EVEN IMAGINE WHAT THAT WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE. 60,000 SQUARE FEET, IT'S BIGGER THAN A GROCERY STORE. >> A NICE ESTABLISHMENT TOO. THEY MAKE IT LOOK NICE. TALK ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES. IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING THERE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY HELP. HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS AGREED UPON? >> HE HAS COMMITTED TO YOU ON TAPE. >> THERE WE GO. ANYBODY ELSE? DISCUSSION. WE ARE NOT IN PUBLIC HEARING ANY MORE. >> I THINK WE ARE. >> NO, I JUST ASKED THEM TO COME BACK UP. >> OH, OKAY. >> I THINK YOU JUST AGREED TO WHAT THEY WANTED, TOO. HE AGREED TO THE WALL THAT YOU SAID YOU WANTED. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. IF IT WASN'T B A AND IT WAS PUD, WOULD THAT GIVE THE COMMISSION THE CONTRACTUAL ABILITY TO PUT THAT IN THEIR? >> YES. >> I THINK THIS IS A REPUTABLE-- I MEAN I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, I THINK HE'S A REPUTABLE-- >> NICE GUY. >> I DON'T THINK HE IS GOING TO COMMIT TO SOMETHING PUBLIC AT OUR MEETING AND THEN-- LIKE YOU SAID BEFORE, DAILY'S IS A GOOD COMPANY. BUT I MEAN, IT'S REALLY YOUR PLEASURE, YOUR DISTRICT. >> FOR ME, IT'S NOT NECES NECESSARILY-- LET ME SAY IT THIS WAY. IF I WERE TO FOCUS ON DAILY'S REPUTATION IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS DECISION, I WOULD BE CONFUSING THE ISSUE IN MY MIND BECAUSE I THINK IT REDIRECTS FROM WHAT EXACTLY IT IS WE ARE LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH. WE ARE BEING ASKED TO REZONE. TO MAKE, YOU START TO CONFLATE THE ISSUE WHEN WE FOLD IN ALL OF THESE DETAILS THAT DISTRACT FROM REALLY WHAT IT IS WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO. AND I'M NOT SPEAKING AGAINST THEIR REPUTATION. I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE THE OVERARCHING NATURE OF THIS CONVERSATION. I DON'T WANT YOUR OWN CREDIBILITY TO BE THE CRUX OF THIS CONVERSATION. I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR. WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO IS DETERMINE WHETHER WE WANT TO REZONE FROM AR TO BB2. EVERYTHING ELSE ARE DETAILS THAT INFLUENCE WHETHER WE SHOULD DO THAT AND SO THERE'S A CONFLICT IN MY OWN MIND WHERE I'M HAVING TO DISTORT OR CONFUSE AN ISSUE AND AGAIN, I DON'T THINK IT'S MY PREROGATIVE TO FOLD IN DAILY'S, TO FOLD IN REPUTATIONS IN A CONVERSATION LIKE THIS, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, HAVE BEEN IN VERY SIMILAR SITUATIONS WHERE SOMEBODY REPUTABLE HOODWINKED US AND WE ENDED UP HAVING A PRESENTATION BEFORE US WITH FOLKS WHO HAD BEEN IN THE [03:05:02] COMMUNITY FOR DECADES. FAMILIES THAT HAD BEEN INSTITUTIONALIZED IN CLAY COUNTY. THEY TOLD US HERE'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO. THEY BROUGHT IN ALL THE PRESENTATIONS, THEY TOLD US HOW AMAZING IT WOULD BE. I REMEMBER ONE REMARK ON THE BOARD FLOOR IS THIS IS SO AMAZING, I WOULD LOVE TO BE A PART OF IT. IF IT WAS HAPPENING TODAY, I WOULD WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT PROJECT. AND THEN WITHIN MONTHS, QUITE LITERALLY MONTHS, WE WERE GETTING NOTIFIED THAT THIS REPUTABLE ENTITY WAS SELLING. AND SO AGAIN, FOR ME, TO CONFLATE THE ISSUE, TO DISTRACT FROM WHAT EXACTLY IT IS WE ARE BEING ASKED TO DO GIVES ME PAUSE. IT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH DAILY'S, NOTHING TO DO WITH REPUTATIONS THAT ARE IMPLICATED HERE. AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO SAY YES TO A PROJECT THAT SPECIFICALLY SPECIFIES, SPECIFICALLY SETS OUT WHAT IT IS WE HAVE DISCUSSED. BUT BECAUSE THAT HAS NOT BEEN THE CASE, MY RESPONSIBILITY IN ENSURING THAT THOSE PROTECTIONS ARE IN PLACE IS COMPROMISED. AND SO FOR ME, AS MUCH AS I WOULD LOVE TO SAY YES, BECAUSE OF WHO IS INVOLVED, I'M NOT GOING TO-- I WOULD LIKE TO BE FAITHFUL TO THE DECISIONS THAT I'VE MADE IN THE PAST AND LEARNING FROM DECISIONS THAT DID NOT BODE WELL FOR THE COUNTY IN MY OPINION. AND SO I WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL IN SETTING OUT TO NIGHT ON RECORD MULTIPLE TIMES CACTUS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DAILY'S OR THE REPUTATIONS OF THOSE WHO ARE BRINGING FORWARD THESE PROJECTS. EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN CONTRACTED VERBALLY AT THIS MEETING SOUNDS GREAT. IT DOES. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE BEING ASKED TO DO. AND SO A PCD, A P U D TO YOUR POINT IS A BUNDLE OF VARIANCES, BUT THE VARIANCES WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT TONIGHT WOULD HAVE BEEN PROTECTIONS. THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN FURTHER PROTECTIONS AND YOUR POINT IS WELL MADE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SURROUNDING, THE CHURCH THAT'S RIGHT UP TO THE ROAD ON KNIGHT BOXX PROVIDES CERTAIN ASSURANCES BUT I'M NOT THINKING THAT NEFARIOUS BUSINESSES COMING IN WOULD BE THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD CAUSE CONCERN FOR THE HOMES THAT ARE THERE. I THINK IT MAKES THIS EVEN MORE DISTRACTING THAN IT SHOULD BE TO SAY YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE NIGHTCLUBS OR THE LIQUOR STORES, WILL NOT HAVE THE STRIP CLUBS. OKAY, THAT'S GREAT. BUT DO I WANT OTHER BUSINESSES THAT DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF A THOSE THINGS I THINK PROVIDE A MORE COMPLETE ANALYSIS. AND SO AGAIN FOR ME, AS MUCH AS I WOULD LOVE TO SAY YES, BECAUSE OF WHO I KNOW IS INVOLVED, IT'S DISTRACTING FROM WHAT EXACTLY I'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO. SO I DO THANK YOU FOR BEING WILLING TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE HOA. BUT IN MY CAPACITY AS A COMMISIONER, I THINK THIS ONE IS A HARD PILL TO SWALLOW. A MOTION TO DENY THE REZONING? I'M HAPPY TO MAKE IT AT THE PLEASURE OF THE CHAIRWOMAN. >> A MOTION? >> I WILL SECOND THE MOTION FOR DISCUSSION. >> A MOTION AND SECOND TO DENY. ALL THOSE IN-- >> I DON'T HAVE ANY-- IF THIS GOT APPROVED TONIGHT I WOULD NOT HAVE ANY PROBLEM. EXCEPT THERE WAS TOO MUCH DISCUSSION ON THE FLY AND NOT, YOU KNOW, PUT INTO VERIFIABLE APPROVAL PROCESS. PCD, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WORK IT WOULD REQUIRE TO COME BACK ON THIS PROPERTY BUT I THINK THAT WOULD PROTECT NOT ONLY US, IT WOULD PROTECT THE DEVELOPER, IT WOULD PROTECT THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. SO WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. WE ALL KIND OF DISCUSSED THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO NIGHT AND TWO WEEKS LATER WE MAY FORGET ABOUT IT. >> THIS DISTRICT COMMISSIONER WILL NOT FORGET. I DEFINITELY WILL ATTEND. YOU CAN GO AHEAD. >> IF I MAY, IN THE INTEREST OF MAYBE TRYING TO PROPOSE A [03:10:01] SOLUTION, I RESPECTFULLY ASK IF THIS IS TEETERING ON A DENIAL, WE DON'T WANT A DENIAL, WE WANT TO BUILD A SITE AND DO WHAT WE SAID WE ARE GOING TO DO, AND WE ARE GOING TO DO IT, BUT RATHER THAN PUTTING US-- BECAUSE A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT HAS BEEN PUT INTO THIS, WE HAVE NO PROBLEM COMMITTING TO THE PLAN AND TO THE EXTRA FEATURES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. WE THOUGHT THAT BY APPLYING AND INCLUDING IT AND HAVING THE DISCUSSION THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT BUT IF THAT IS STILL NOT SUFFICIENT, A PROPOSAL I WOULD HAVE, AND WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE IN DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS, CERTAINLY RELY ON YOUR COUNTY ATTORNEY, BUT I WOULD RESPECTFULLY MAYBE PROPOSE THAT YOU DEFER THIS EITHER TWO WEEKS OR FOUR WEEKS, NEXT MEETING OR THE MEETING AFTER THAT, TO ALLOW FOR A SWAP OF WE WILL WITHDRAW THE-- I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO IT HERE, YOU EITHER WITHDRAW THE BB2 AND DO A PUD IN ITS PLACE. IN JACKSONVILLE YOU WOULD DO A SUBSTITUTE WHERE YOU WOULD SWAP OUT AND IF YOU ARE NOT INTENSIFYING THE USES THEN YOU CAN DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO RESTART EVERYTHING. THAT'S HOW THEY DO IT THERE. YOU MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING IT HERE. MY PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO ALLOW TIME FOR US TO PROVIDE THE WRITTEN NARRATIVE THAT YOU WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO FOR A PUD OR PXD ALONG WITH A SITE PLAN WE ALREADY HAVE AND THAT WE CAN FURTHER PUT THE EXTRA FEATURES WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY AND IF IT'S IN TWO WEEKS, BUT I WOULD% HOPE IT'S NOT MORE THAN FOUR WEEKS, THAT WE WOULD COME BACK AT THE MEETING AND AT THAT TIME HAVE AGAIN THE WRITTEN DESCRIPTION, THE ENHANCED SITE PLAN AND HOPEFULLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET AN APPROVAL FOR A PUD ON THE SAME EXACT THING WE ARE PROPOSING TONIGHT. >> I WITHDRAW MY MOTION. >> I WITHDRAW MY SECOND. >> I MOVE THAT WE-- >> YOU CAN SEE WHY WE ARE SHELL SHOCKED. IT DID HAPPEN TO US AND SO IT MAY NOT HAPPEN BUT IT DID HAPPEN TO US HERE AND, YOU KNOW, IS VERY FRUSTRATING. >> UNDERSTOOD. COMMISSIONER, WHAT YOU RAISE IS ABSOLUTELY, YOU DON'T WANT TO BASE DECISIONS ON A REPUTATION OR A LAST MINUTE DISCUSSION, I GET THAT. WELL TAKEN. BUT I THINK WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING. IF THAT'S THE CASE, AND I THINK THIS PROPOSAL WOULD ACCOMPLISH THAT. WE ARE BEING TRANSPARENT. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND WE WANT TO DO IT IN A FASHION THAT HOPEFULLY IS GOOD, NEIGHBORLY OPERATIONS AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND SO WE WOULD SIMPLY ASK FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO IF THE PUD IS THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT, LET US INSERT THIS INTO THAT PUD WITH A WRITTEN DESCRIPTION WE WORK WITH YOUR STAFF ON AND HOPEFULLY BE IN A POSITION. I WILL LEAVE THAT TO YOU WHETHER IT'S THE NEXT MEETING OR, YOU KNOW, TWO MEETINGS TO GET THAT DONE. >> WE HAVE APPROVAL FOR TWO WEEKS. >> TWO WEEKS? CAN STAFF DO THAT? >> I WOULD SAY TWO MEETINGS. >> MAY 12TH. >> MAY 12TH IS THE FIRST MEE MEETING. >> BUT THAT'S, THAT STILL TWO WEEKS. THAT'S NOT THE SECOND MEETING IN MAY THOUGH, RIGHT? >> HERE'S WHAT I WOULD SAY. I WOULD TELL THEM TO DO IT MAY 20 WHATEVER, 26, BECAUSE WE MOVED TO MAY 12TH THE ONE THAT IS BY THE HIGH SCHOOL, THE CONSERVATION. THIS ROOM IS GOING TO BE PACKED. AND IT WILL BE A LONG MEETING. >> YOU ARE DOING ME A FAVOR, MAY 26TH. >> TRYING TO HELP YOU OUT. >> YOUR STAFF TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. WE WILL PREPARE WHAT WE NEED TO PREPARE. I DON'T THINK IT'S TOO MUCH MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE BUT THERE'S A WRITTEN DESCRIPTION AND WE WILL SHARE THAT WITH YOUR STAFF AND GET THEM IN A POSITION TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH IT SO HOPEFULLY IT'S MORE STREAMLINED. >> WOULD IT BE TOO TERRIBLE TO ASK TO INSTEAD DO IT AT THE FIRST JUNE MEETING, FOR PLANNING STAFF? WE NORMALLY DO ITEMS ON THE SECOND MEETING OF EACH MONTH BUT FOR REASONS FOR STAFF REASONS WE WERE NOT HAVING ANY PLANNING ITEMS ON MAY THE 26TH. BUT I MEAN OBVIOUSLY IF THAT'S A HARDSHIP, THEN WE WOULD MAKE IT HAPPEN. >> IT'S MEMORIAL DAY WEEK SO IF ANY OF YOUR STAFF ARE-- IT WILL BE A LIGHT MEETING. >> ON MAY 26TH 1? [03:15:01] >> THE DAY AFTER MEMORIAL DAY. >> WE WANT TO RESPECT YOUR PROCESS BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A HARD LIFT, IT'S REALLY-- I DON'T WANT TO DOWNPLAY IT EITHER BUT IT'S A WRITTEN DESCRIPTION WHERE WE WILL LIST OUT EXACTLY ALL THE STUFF WE TALKED ABOUT AND THE USES. WE WILL LEAVE OUT SOME OF THE USES YOU DON'T WANT AND GET THAT TO YOUR STAFF. I DON'T KNOW YOUR TEAM WILL NEED SOME TIME TO LOOK AT IT AND RESPOND BUT I THINK MAY 26TH BUT I DON'T WANT TO-- WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU GUYS. I DON'T WANT TO IMPOSE. >> I MEAN IF YOU REPRESENT THAT YOU CAN'T DO IT ON-- THAT IT WOULD CREATE AN ISSUE TO WAIT UNTIL THE JUNE NINTH, I'M SURE STAFF WILL WORK WITH YOU FOR THE 26TH. >> JUNE NINTH WOULD NOT CREATE AN ISSUE. >> THAT WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER TIMING. >> JUNE NINTH. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WILLING. >> WE APPRECIATE YOUR LATITUDE AS WELL IN ALLOWING ME TO KEEP GETTING UP AND TRYING-- BECAUSE-- AND I DON'T NORMALLY DO THAT BUT I REALLY FEEL LIKE THIS IS SO CLOSE. SO WHY, YOU KNOW, THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATHWATER AT THIS POINT? JUNE NINTH. >> JUNE NINTH. OKAY. >> HAD A MOTION. >> APPROVAL TO THE JUNE NINTH MEETING. WE ARE CONTINUING UNTIL JUNE NINTH TO REVISIT THIS? >> IS THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING? >> OR WITHDRAW-- I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY. >> I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS. JUST CONTINUE IT. >> I SECOND THE MOTION TO CONTINUE JUNE NINTH. >> TO CONTINUE TO JUNE NINTH. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. >> I THINK JASON. WE WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT ADVERTISING. >> I THINK THAT GIVES YOU ENOUGH TIME FOR THAT. [CONSENT AGENDA] >> WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK TO CONSENT AGENDA. CONSENT AGENDA. >> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM NUMBER 12. >> TAKE A MOTION HEARING NO OTHER ITEMS BEING PULLED I WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS FIVE THROUGH 19 WITHOUT 12. >> A MOTION? SECOND? >> I WILL SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. [12. Resolution directing the placement of the School Board's Referendum on the ballot of the November 3, 2026 general election (C. Grimm)] ANY OPPOSED? NUMBER 12. >> I PULLED ITEM 12. I KNOW OUR FUNCTION HERE IS ADMINISTRATIVE, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PRONOUNCE THAT, TO FORWARD THE SCHOOL BOARD'S RESOLUTION TO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION FOR INCLUSION IN THE NOVEMBER ELECTION AS A REFERENDUM. MY PROBLEM WITH THIS ACTION IS THERE'S-- THERE'S ERRORS IN THE RESOLUTION. ONE, NUMBER 4, THERE'S A WORD LEFT OUT WHICH MAKES THAT STATEMENT INACCURATE OR CONFUSING. THE OTHER THING IS THE ACTUAL VERBIAGE THAT THEY PROPOSE FOR THE REFERENDUM IS GRAMMATICALLY IN ERROR. COMING FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD, AN EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION, IT PAINS ME TO DO THIS. I JUST DON'T LIKE DOING IT. AND I GUESS I CAN ADMINISTRATIVELY RECOMMEND WE FORWARD IT BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE A NOTE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF ERRORS IN IT AND IT DOESN'T PRESENT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WELL TO THE PUBLIC. I CAN TAKE IT HERE ON THE DAIS BUT WHEN YOU GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC WITH ERRORS FROM THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, ROMANTIC ERRORS. AND WE TRY TO-- CAN WE DELAY THIS? I GUESS THE TIMING IS SUCH THAT WE CAN'T. SO I DON'T KNOW. WE HAVE MADE SOME COMMUNICATION WITH THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION AND MAYBE COUNTY ATTORNEY COULD RESPOND TO THAT. >> RIGHT, SO IF THE SPECIFIC REQUEST IS WITH RESPECT TO THE LANGUAGE THAT GOES ON THE BALLOT, IF THERE IS A SCRIVENER'S ERROR, I UNDERSTAND THERE IS SOME CONCERN THAT WITHIN THE BALLOT LANGUAGE SCHOOL DISTRICT OF CLAY COUNTY IS NOT CAPITALIZED. [03:20:04] THAT IF THAT IS CONSIDERED A SCRIVENER'S ERROR, COULD STILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REQUEST THAT THE ERROR BE CORRECTED AND THOSE FOUR WORDS BE CAPITALIZED. >> THAT'S THE ONLY THING? >> WELL THE RESOLUTION ALSO HAS A MISSING WORD. MY ONLY COMMENT AS IF MY SEVENTH GRADE ENGLISH TEACHER WOULD HAVE HAD THIS DOCUMENT, THERE WOULD BE RED INK ON IT. I EXPECT BETTER OUT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD, THE WHOLE SYSTEM, BEFORE WE SEND IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC. IT IS WHAT IT IS AND I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE UNLESS WE HAVE THE ATTORNEY HERE. I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU STOOD UP. >> WE COULD NOT MAKE CHANGES TO THE RESOLUTION BECAUSE THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD. HOWEVER WITH RESPECT TO THE BALLOT LANGUAGE, IF IT WAS SCRIVENER'S LANGUAGE, THAT LIMITED PURPOSE. >> JUST TO CLARIFY, THAT SEPARATE THAN THE RESOLUTION HERE BEFORE THE BOARD? >> I DISAGREE. IT'S AN ATTACHMENT. >> IN THE RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD IT IS CAPITALIZED IN THE BALLOT-- BALLOT LANGUAGE. IT IS A SCRIVENER'S ERROR BUT GOING TO SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS, THAT WOULD BE ON THE BALLOT CAPITALIZED. >> THE RESOLUTION GOES LIKE IT IS? >> OUR RESOLUTION, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU FOUND ANY MISTAKES, OUR RESOLUTION JUST ATTACHES THEIRS AS AN EXHIBIT AND FORWARDS IT TO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION AND REQUESTS IT AS A PASS THROUGH TO BE PUT ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE FOR THOSE FOUR WORDS TO BE CAPITALIZED, THEN WE CAN INFORM THE SUPERVISOR OF THAT ERROR AND HE SAID IT WOULD BE-- >> BUT THE ERROR WHERE THE WORD IS MISSING. >> NOTHING CAN BE DONE. >> THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT. IT JUST SHOWS THAT WE DID NOT PROVE THAT DOCUMENT VERY WELL. NOT WE, DE. >> YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION? >> I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 12. >> WITH THOSE ERRORS? >> YEAH, I MEAN WE CAN'T CHANGE IT. OUR JOB IS JUST TO FORWARD IT. IT JUST IRRITATES ME THAT I HAVE TO FORWARD A DOCUMENT WITH KNOWN ERRORS. FROM THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. THERE ARE EDUCATIONAL TYPE ERRORS. >> AND AS PART OF FORWARDING THAT AND YOUR MOTION, WOULD YOU LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THE FOUR WORDS BE CAPITALIZED? >> YEAH, IF THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO READ IT. IF I READ IT AS A PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, VOTER, I WOULD BE IRRITATED THAT WE DON'T CAPITALIZE PRONOUNS THE WAY WE SHOULD. ANYWAY. I WOULD ASK THE SUPERVISOR TO MAKE ANY SCRIVENER ERRORS CORRECTIONS THAT HE CAN. THAT'S MY MOTION. >> OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION. >> THAT'S MY MOTION. >> I WILL SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? >> THANK YOU, EVERYONE, HAVE A [20. Strategic Plan Update (T. Nagle/L. Christmas)] GOOD NIGHT. >> WE WILL MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION UPDATES, STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE. >> GOOD EVENING. SO WE ARE PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE SINCE ABOUT MARCH FINALLY WERE ABLE TO GET THE STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATES ON OUR WEBSITE. THIS IS JUST A LOOK AT ALL OF THEM. THEY RESIDE ON OUR WEBSITE ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN PAGE AND YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE DASHBOARD. WE WANTED FOR THIS PRESENTATION TO PUT EVERYTHING ON ONE PAGE FOR YOU ALL TO BE ABLE TO SEE. WE DID CREATE THIS IN-HOUSE. WE HAD A GREAT TEAM THAT WORKED ON THIS AND IT'S UPDATED MONTHLY WITH ALL OF THE DATA THAT COMES FROM DIRECTORS AND SO AS PART OF OUR QUARTERLY STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE TO YOU ALL THIS EVENING, WE ARE GOING TO GO OVER ONE GOAL FROM EACH CATEGORY. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE GOALS CACTUS WAS SENT OUT TO YOU PREVIOUSLY TO THE MEETING, HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS AND THEN DIRECTORS ARE HERE TO AUGMENT THAT INFORMATION. WE ARE GOING TO START OFF WITH GOOD GOVERNANCE. AGAIN CACTUS IS NOT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON OUR WEBSITE BUT JUST KIND OF A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK. BUT THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON OUR WEBSITE. OUR RESIDENTS CAN COME HERE AND YOU SEE THE GOAL. YOU WILL SEE THE BASELINE. [03:25:03] LAST YEAR IN 2024." THEN OUR MONTHLY DATA HERE. SO THE ONE GOAL WE WANTED TO GO OVER FOR GOOD GOVERNANCE WAS MAINTAIN A 90% EMPLOYMENT RATE FOR THE FIRST YEAR OF EMPLOYMENT. YOU CAN SCROLL DOWN AND FIND THAT. SO THAT'S HERE. AS YOU CAN SEE THIS WAS A NEW GOAL THAT WAS UPDATED AS PART OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO US WHEN WE DID OUR STRATEGIC PLAN WORKSHOP. SO YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE REFLECTED THOSE NEW DATA POINTS WITH THIS VERBIAGE HERE AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE BEEN TRENDING UPWARDS THIS YEAR. NOW AT 89% AS OF MARCH. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE GOALS WE WANTED TO RELATE TO YOU ALL. ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR ON GOOD GOVERNANCE? OKAY. MOVING ON, WE ARE GOING TO GO TO COMMUNITY HEALTH AND SAFETY. THIS IS A GOAL WE HAVE HAD TRADITIONALLY AS PART OF OUR ORIGINAL STRATEGIC PLAN. ERNEST AND HIS TEAM DO A FANTASTIC JOB OF KEEPING US RIGHT AT THAT GOAL. BASICALLY A NO KILL SHELTER AS DEFINED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA. SO IF I CAN SCROLL DOWN AND FIND THAT HERE, TELL ME IF I MISSED IT. THERE IT IS. MAINTAIN A 90% OVER FIVE YEARS, GOAL IS 90%. AS YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE HIT OR EXCEEDED THAT GOAL OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS. AND THIS MONTH WE DID DIP DOWN A LITTLE BIT BUT HISTORICALLY THIS GOAL IS ALWAYS EXCEEDING OR MEETING THAT STANDARD. ANY QUESTIONS ON COMMUNITY HEALTH AND SAFETY? NEXT WE ARE GOING TO GO TO ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENTS. THAT IS GOING TO ALSO BE A NEW GOAL. SO INCREASE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF MULTI-DAY TOURISM EVENTS, THAT'S A NEW GOAL THAT CAME ABOUT OUT OF OUR PREVIOUS MEETINGS. THAT 2025 BASELINE IS ZERO. WE WANTED TO INCREASE TO NINE EVENTS IN FIVE YEARS AND WE ARE NOW AT TWO FOR THIS YEAR. SO THAT ONE IS DOING WELL AS WELL. ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR ON ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT? MOVING ON TO INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS GOAL I BELIEVE WE REVAMPED FROM A PREVIOUS GOAL. IT IS NUMBER OF FEET OF PIPES AND DITCHES IMPROVED. WHERE IS THAT ONE HERE? THERE IT IS. INCREASE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF FEET TO 20,000 IN FIVE YEARS. OUR BASELINE IN 2025 WAS 15,286. WE UPDATED THE VERBIAGE ON THIS ONE. AS YOU CAN SEE CACTUS HERE WE'VE TERMS OF MEETING THAT GOAL. SO FAR ON INFRASTRUCTURE. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE HAVE QUALITY AND BALANCE OF LIFE AND THOSE WILL BE THREE GOALS LUMPED TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL SIMILAR BUT DIFFERENT APARTMENTS. THIS ONE HAS A POSITIVE DIRECTION AS WELL. THIS ONE IS INCREASED TOTAL NUMBER OF PROGRAMS AND EVENTS FOR LIBRARIES, PARKS AND RECREATION. YOU CAN SEE HISTORICALLY THESE TREND UPWARDS. HISTORICALLY OVER THE COURSE OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, THE MAJORITY HAVE TRENDED IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION. THAT IS QUALITY AND BALANCE OF LIFE. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE. YOU CAN SEE THE DASHBOARD IN ITS ENTIRETY AS WELL AS THE PREVIOUS REPORTS OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN WE HAVE PROVIDED TO YOU EVERY QUARTER AS WELL AS AN EXPLANATION OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN, THE GOALS AND THE CHANGES WE HAVE MADE AND AS WE GET UPDATED MONTHLY WITH OUR DATA SO OUR RESIDENTS CAN SEE THE MOST UP TO DATE INFORMATION ON OUR PLAN. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >> CAN WE TELL THE NUMBER OF HITS ON THIS PAGE? >> YES SIR WE CAN. >> THE PAGE ON THE WEBSITE. >> WE USE GOOGLE ANALYTICS SO WE CAN PINPOINT A TIME FRAME, A SPECIFIC DATE ON EVERY PAGE THAT WE HAVE AND WE CAN SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE VISITING AND FOR HOW LONG. >> WE CAN ONLY TELL NUMBERS? YOU CAN'T TELL WHERE THEY CAME FROM? >> WE CAN TELL WHERE THEY CAME FROM, YES SIR. DEMOGRAPHICS. >> SEE WHO'S LOOKING AT IT. >> IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING. I ENJOY DOING THAT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE THAT INFORMATION I CAN GET IT FOR YOU THROUGH HOWARD. SURE. >> ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU. >> A GREAT TEAM WE'VE. [29. Joint Legislative Auditing Committee (JLAC) Audit Finding Response. (H. Boucher)] [03:30:01] >> 2I FOR ACTION, JOINT LEGISLATIVE AUDITING COMMITTEE. >> YES CACTUS LETTER IS A RESPONSE TO A REQUEST THAT THE CHAIR RECEIVED FOR A FORMAL WRITTEN RESPONSE TO OUR AUDIT FINDING THAT WE'VE HAD FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT FUND TO OUTLINE OUR MANAGEMENT ACTION PLAN. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >> DID YOU SEND PICTURES IN THE RESPONSE, ARE YOU SENDING PICTURES TO SAY WE BUILT IT? >> I DID NOT BUT I GUESS WE COULD. >> NO QUESTIONS? >> JUST LOOKING FOR APPROVAL TO SEND THIS LETTER. >> I WILL MOVE WE SENT THE LETTER. >> I SECOND THE MOTION. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? [30. Bid Opening Tabulations (K. Smith) Bid Opening Tabulations for April 14, 2026: A. RFQ No. 25/26-016, Construction Engineering and Inspection Services for SUN Trail B. Bid No. 25/26-027, Firefighter Gear Storage Shed Construction C. Bid No. 25/26-062, Dirt Road Paving of Lakeview Street and Hilltop Street] DON'T GO TOO FAR, HEATHER. WE HAVE LETTERS OF DOCUMENTATION, BID OPENING TABULATIONS FOR CONSTRUCTION, ENGINEERING AND INSPECTION SERVICES FOR SUN TRAIL AND FIREFIGHTER CARE, STORAGE SHED CONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS DIRT ROAD PAVING OF LAKEVIEW STREET AND HILLTOP STREET. OPEN UP THE SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT. SAME RULES AS BEFORE. ANY ONE? [31. City of Green Cove Springs CRA Update] EVERYBODY HAS TALKED ENOUGH TODAY. ALL RIGHT, THEN I WILL MOVE ON TO COMMISSION AUDITOR. WHERE DID SHE GO? >> BEEN A LITTLE WHILE SINCE I'VE DONE AN UPDATE. NOW WE HAVE FUNDING AND ARE DOING SOME STUFF, COMMISSIONER BURKE ASKED ME TO DO AN UPDATE. SO THE FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS OUR LOGO THAT WE APPROVED AT OUR LAST MEETING. IT WAS DESIGNED, HELPED DESIGNED BY OUR CRA BOARD AND WITH THE STAFF AT GREEN COVE SPRINGS. THEY HAVE A SIMILAR LOGO FOR THEIR DOWNTOWN, SO WE BUILT IT OFF OF THAT TO HAVE THE SAME FEEL. SO THIS IS A POSTCARD THAT HEATHER FINCHER, THE PIO FOR THE CITY OF GREEN COVE SPRINGS, CREATED FOR US. THIS IS GOING TO BE SENT OUT TO ALL OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND RESIDENTS WITHIN THE CRA DISTRICT. I INCLUDED IT HERE BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT HAD A REALLY GOOD DESCRIPTION OF WHAT A CRA IS. I WILL READ IT. THE CRA REINVESTS LOCAL TAX DOLLARS INTO DESIGNATED AREA TO IMPROVE BUILDINGS, SUPPORT BUSINESSES AND PROMOTE COMMUNITY GROWTH. THEN ON THE BACK OF THE POSTCARD, IT HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT A CRA DOES. SO WE RENOVATE BUILDING FACADES, ENHANCED STREET LANDSCAPING, ATTRACT NEW BUSINESSES, BOOST PROPERTY VALUES AND PRESERVE HISTORIC CHARACTER. THE QR CODE THERE SENDS YOU TO OUR PAGE ON THE GREEN COVE SPRINGS WEBSITE. SO THIS IS OUR BOUNDARY MAP THAT WE HAVE. YOU CAN SEE IN THE BLUE IS WHAT OUR CRA DISTRICT ENCOMPASSES. SO IT GOES DOWN ORANGE AVENUE G, BASICALLY FROM THE BRIDGE DOWN TO OAK STREET, THEN IT ALSO INCLUDES SPRING PARK, DOWN MONARCH STREET AND THEN ALSO DOWN MLK. SO WITHIN OUR BOUNDARY, WE HAVE 267 PERSONALS, 94 OF THOSE ARE COMMERCIAL, 85 ARE RESIDENTIAL, 56 ARE CURRENTLY VACANT WITH A MIX OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL AND THEN WE HAVE 32 CHURCHES, COUNTY FACILITIES, MUNICIPALITY FACILITIES. THIS IS OUR CURRENT BOARD. IT'S THE SAME BOARD WE'VE HAD SINCE THE CRA WAS DEVELOPED. SO WE HAVE MYSELF, ANDREA VAILLANCOURT IS OUR CURRENT VICE CHAIR COME OF COURSE DR. BURKE, FINN ROYAL, AND MITCH TIMBERLAKE. SO THE FIRST COMMENT I WANTED TO TELL YOU GUYS ABOUT IS CALLED OUR HOTEL ERA. SO OUR BOARD IS KIND OF FOCUSED ON THE HISTORY OF GREEN COVE SPRINGS. ONE OF THE PROJECTS WE STARTED THAT WE WANTED TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT THE HOTEL HISTORY THAT WE HAVE IN GREEN COVE SPRINGS. IN THE LATE 1800S EARLY 1900S, GREEN COVE SPRINGS WAS KNOWN AS A DESTINATION. SO WHAT WE DID IS FOUND THE OLD [03:35:03] HOTELS THAT WERE IN OUR CRA BOUNDARIES, AND THESE FOUR ARE PLAQUES THAT WE HAVE INSTALLED IN THE SIDEWALKS WHERE THOSE HOTELS USED TO BE. AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY HAVE THE NAME OF THE HOTEL, A PICTURE OF THE HOTEL, THEN YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE QR CODES, AND THAT TAKES YOU TO THE WEBSITE. THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT EACH OF THE HOTELS. AND THEN, WITH THIS PROJECT, WE HAVE TWO MORE HOTELS THAT WE FOUND THAT ARE WITHIN OUR BOUNDARIES, AND THAT IS THE TYLER HOUSE AND THE MOHAWK HOTEL, AND ONCE WE INSTALLED THOSE TWO PLAQUES, THEN THIS PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETE, AND I THINK IT WILL BE OUR FIRST ACTUAL, COMPLETED PROJECT. SO ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE CRA IS AN IMPROVEMENT OF ASSISTANCE GRANT. SO WE FIRST STARTED THIS PROGRAM LAST YEAR IN THE FALL, AND WHAT THIS IS, IT'S FOR OUR COMMERCIAL -- OUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WITHIN CRA, AND IT'S $10,000 IN FUNDING WITH A MINIMUM 30% MATCH, SO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS THEY NEED TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO FACADE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THEIR PARCEL. THIS WAS DEVELOPED AGAIN BY HEATHER AT THE CITY OF GREEN COVE SPRINGS. SO WHEN WE HAD OUR FIRST APPLICATION OPEN LAST FALL, WE HAD THREE APPLICANTS, AND WE WERE ABLE TO APPROVE ALL OF THOSE APPLICATIONS, THEY MET OUR REQUIREMENTS, AND WE HAVE ANOTHER APPLICATION PERIOD THAT OPENS MAY 1ST AND GOES THROUGH MAY 31ST, SO WE CREATED THIS FLIER, AND WE ARE REALLY TRYING HARD TO TARGET SOME OF THE BUSINESSES WITHIN OUR CRA DISTRICT. ALL OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS ARE GOING AND VISITING SOME BUSINESSES, LETTING THEM KNOW ABOUT THE PROGRAM, GIVING THEM THE FLIER, GIVING THEM THE APPLICATION, REALLY TALKING WITH THEM, SO HOPEFULLY WE GET MORE THAN THREE APPLICANTS. THIS LAST PROJECT I WANTED TO TELL YOU GUYS ABOUT WAS ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO EVER WANT TO GET OFF THE GROUND. I THINK THIS WAS THE FIRST PROJECT THAT WAS PROPOSED TO US BY THE CITY, AND IT IS WRAPPING UTILITY BOXES. I DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD BE THAT DIFFICULT, BUT IT HAS BEEN. THE FIRST KIND OF ISSUE THAT WE HAD WAS WITHIN OUR OWN BOARD, SO WE HAD SOME PROPOSALS AND SOME PICTURES OF WHAT THE DESIGNS COULD BE FOR THE WRAPS, SO WE LOOKED AT ANIMALS. WE LOOKED AT GEOMETRIC SHAPES. YOU KNOW, ABSTRACT. WE TALKED ABOUT HISTORIC PICTURES. WE TALKED ABOUT DOING MAYBE LOCAL ARTISTS, HAVING SOME DESIGNS FOR THE WRAP OR EVEN LIKE CHILDREN, DESIGNS FOR THE WRAPS. SO TO GO WITH THE HISTORICAL THEME THAT WE HAVE IN GREEN COVE, WE DECIDED ON HAVING PICTURES FROM WITHIN THE CRA OF THE STREET, WHAT THEY USED TO LOOK LIKE BACK IN THE DAY, SO THE STREET VIEW WITH THE OLD CARS, WE LIKE THAT DESIGN. SO WHEN WE SENT THEM TO OUR VENDOR TO GET THE WRAPS DONE, WE HAD ISSUES FINDING PICTURES THAT WERE HIGH QUALITY ENOUGH TO BLOW UP THAT LOOKED GOOD, AND THEN ALSO WHEN WE SENT IT, THEY HAD SOME CONCERNS THAT DRIVERS GOING ALONG THE ROAD MIGHT SEE THE UTILITY BOX WRAPS AND GET CONFUSED AND THINK IT'S A ROAD WITH A CAR, AND MAYBE RUN INTO IT. SO WE KIND OF WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, AND WE TOOK MULTIPLE PICTURES AND KIND OF MADE A COLLAGE. WE SENT THAT AND THEY APPROVED THAT. BUT OUR LAST BOARD MEETING, ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HOW IT WOULD LOOK, JUST BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE PICTURES THAT ARE WRAPPING AROUND THE BOX, SOME OF THE PICTURES GET CUT OFF, AND IT JUST MIGHT NOT LOOK VERY GOOD. SO I GUESS WE ARE STILL UP IN THE AIR ON OUR UTILITY BOXES AND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO WRAP THEM WITH. AND THAT'S ALL I HAD. THESE ARE JUST SOME LINKS I PUT ON TO OUR CRA WEBSITE, AND THEN THE HOTEL ERA PAGE. >> I HAVE TO SAY, HEATHER HAS DONE AN AMAZING. [03:40:01] DONE VERY WELL. >> THANKS SO MUCH. >> WE HAVE ANOTHER CRA IN CLAY COUNTY, CORRECT? WE OUGHT TO GET A BRIEF FROM THAT CRA, AS WELL. IT'S BEEN A LONG TERM. >> I THINK THEY USED THEIR MONEY BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE NEARLY THE SAME FUNDING A MUCH SMALLER FOOTPRINT. I THINK THEY USED ALL OF THEIR MONEY FROM LIKE 20 YEARS TO BUY THAT CHINESE RESTAURANT THEY TORE DOWN FOR THE D.O.T. TURN LANE. >> AND CLARIFY FOR ME, THE CRA WITH THE TAX DOLLARS THAT YOU CAN USE IN A CRA ARE ONLY THE INCREASED TAX MONEY FROM A CURRENT BASE HERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT BASE WE ARE USING HERE. THAT INCREASED REVENUE HAS TO BE USED IN THAT CRA. IT CAN'T BE USED ANYWHERE ELSE. >> CORRECT. I THINK OUR BASE WAS 323. AND SO THIS IS OUR SECOND YEAR OF FUNDING. OUR FIRST YEAR WE GOT ABOUT 44000. THE SECOND YEAR WE GOT ABOUT 8000 BEFORE WE HAD SOME LEFTOVER. SO REALLY TALKING SMALL DOLLARS RIGHT NOW, BUT YES, IT'S THE INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES, SO WE ARE HOPING WITH OUR GRANTS WE INCREASE THE PROPERTY VALUE, ENTICE MORE PEOPLE COMING IN, GET THEM ON THE TAX ROLL. >> AND HOPE THE COUNTY DOESN'T TAKE MORE PRIVATE PROPERTY AND MAKE IT PUBLIC. >> JUST FOR THE RECORD, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY THINKING IT GOES TO GREEN COVE OR THE CRA. THERE IS A CAP ON THERE BECAUSE WE CAPPED HOW MUCH OF THE INCREASE PERCENTAGE-YS GOES TO THE CRA. I DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO THINK 100% OF THE INCREASE IS GOING TO THE CRA. >> WHAT DID WE -- >> I WOULD HAVE TO PULL IT, IT IS ON A SLIDING SCALE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. 90% OR 85%. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY 85% COME I DON'T REMEMBER IT BEING ON A SLIDING SCALE. >> THAT'S EASY. >> YEAH. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, HEATHER. [COUNTY MANAGER] COUNTY ATTORNEY? >> NOTHING FURTHER, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> MADAM CHAIR COMMISSIONERS, I WILL TAKE SOME OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S TIME, AND I JUST HAVE ONE ITEM TO ASK ABOUT AND ASK THE FIRE CHIEF TO COME UP WHILE I AM TALKING. I WANT TO GIVE A DEBRIEF ON TOUCH A TRUCK LAST SATURDAY, ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL EVENT, OVER 2500 PEOPLE THERE, AND I WANT TO ANNOUNCE PUBLICLY THE AWARDEES THAT WERE THERE, THE 2025 VETERAN OF THE YEAR IS JESSICA JOVANOVSKI. THE 2025 VOLUNTEER OF THE YEAR IS JENNA HOLDERFIELD. THE 2025 YOUTH VOLUNTEER OF THE YEAR IS AMAYA ARTETA. AND WE HAVE INTERVIEWED HER FOR THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE ACADEMY WITH A 4.9 GPA, SO SHE HAS HIGH, HIGH ASPIRATIONS, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC. OUR VETERAN DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARDEES WERE MATTHEW FLINT AND CRYSTAL HELMUTH, AND OUR VOLUNTEER DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARDEES WERE BRIAN KNIGHT AND MARY MEDFORD. FINALLY, THE DISTINGUISHED SERVICE TO CLAY COUNTY AWARDEE IS RICHARD CAREY. SO I'D LIKE TO YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME TO WARREN SO HE CAN GO OVER THE FIRES ON THE CLAY-PUTNAM LINE AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE. >> GOOD EVENING, LAUREN MOTT, FIRE CHIEF. AS YOU KNOW, THE FIRE ORIGINATED AT ABOUT 2:15 IN THE AFTERNOON OF SUNDAY, THE 19TH. OUR FIRST REPORTS CAME FROM PUTNAM COUNTY, COMMUNICATED WITH US INDICATING THERE HAD BEEN A TRAIN PASSAGE ALONG THE CORRIDOR ALONG 209 SOUTH AND THE TRAIN WAS CAUSING SPARKS COME AND THEY ASKED US TO INVESTIGATE POSSIBLE REPORTS OF FIRES DEVELOPING FROM THAT SITUATION. OUR FIRST UNITS RESPONDING IN THERE FOUND NOT ONLY ONE BUT MULTIPLE FIRES BREAKING OUT ALONG THAT RAIL LINE. AND WE INITIATED A FAIRLY LARGE RESPONSE TO IT. AS WE BUILD UP THE RESPONSE, AND THE INITIAL REPORTS APPEARED TO THINK WE COULD GET SOME CONTROL OF THE FIRE, MOTHER NATURE TOOK THE COURSE. WE HAD THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY PASS THROUGH THE NORTHEAST WINDS QUICKLY DEVELOPED. WE WERE ALREADY IN A HIGH FIRE DANGER PERIOD FROM THE WEATHER SERVICE SIDE OF IT, BUT THOSE HIGH WINDS TOOK THE FIRE AND DROVE IT. THERE WERE AT LEAST FOUR DISTINCT FIRE POINTS, AS WE WERE RESPONDING INTO IT, AND THEY [03:45:02] BEGAN TO CONVERGE INTO A NUMBER OF VERY LARGE ONES. TRANSITIONING FROM THE RAILROAD TRACKS LOCATED JUST TO THE WEST OF 2009 AND MOVING QUICKLY INTO THAT DENSER FOREST ON THE WESTERN BOUNDARIES, TOWARDS THE U.S. 17 CORRIDOR. AS WE PROGRESS THROUGHOUT THE EVENING, WE QUICKLY ESTABLISHED AN INCIDENT COMMAND POST AT THE NATIONAL TRUCK DRIVING SCHOOL. THIS LOCATION IS A LITTLE UNIQUE FOR CLAY COUNTY. JACKSONVILLE, THE FORESTRY SERVICE OPERATES OUT OF THE JACKSONVILLE CENTER, BUT THE BOUNDARY LINE FOR BETWEEN THE JACKSONVILLE CENTER AND THE WHIP ACASA CENTER, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY PUTNAM COUNTY AND THE AREAS SURROUNDING THAT IS RIGHT ON OUR BORDER. PART OF THE FIRE WAS OCCURRING IN PUTNAM COUNTY SO IT MEANT BOTH FORESTRY CENTERS HAD TO MOBILIZE RESOURCES. LOCALIZE RESOURCES. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAD TO COORDINATE AS WELL AS THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COMPONENTS ON BOTH SIDES. ONE THING I'M GOING TO SAY ABOUT IT IS IT IS GOOD TO HAVE FRIENDS YOU HAVE PRACTICE WITH OVER TIME BECAUSE WE WERE PRETTY QUICKLY ABLE TO ESTABLISH COMMUNICATION AND A COORDINATED INCIDENT COMMAND POST WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CAME IN AND OPERATED WITH US, SIDE BY SIDES, ALLOWED US TO BE MORE MOBILE ALONG THE LINE. THE PIO WAS ALERTED AND SHE RESPONDED IN TO GIVE THE COORDINATE THE MESSAGING OUT OF IT, ALONG WITH THE BRINGING IN OF ADDITIONAL RESOURCES. AT ITS HEIGHT, CLAY COUNTY HAD NEARLY 50 FIREFIGHTERS WORKING WITH 50 PIECES OF EQUIPMENT ALONG THAT LINE, BUT THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE ENOUGH. WE ASKED FOR ASSISTANCE FROM SAINT JOHNS COUNTY. THEY BROUGHT IN UNITS, AND BY LATE IN THE EVENING I PLACED A CALL TO JACKSONVILLE AND THEY RESPONDED WITH AN ENGINE STRIKE TEAM INCLUDING THREE ENGINES, INCIDENT COMMANDER. AT ITS HEIGHT ON THE STRUCTURAL SIDE WE HAD OVER 75 MEMBERS THERE WORKING. FORESTRY THROUGH OUR COORDINATION WITH THEM. , BROUGHT IN OVER 20 BULLDOZERS AND WERE DEPLOYING THEM. IT WAS QUICKLY EVIDENT THE FIRE WAS PROGRESSING VERY RAPIDLY TOWARDS THE WEST. WE AT THAT POINT HAD TO BEGIN AND LOOK AT EVACUATIONS, AND THE EVACUATIONS THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING HAD TO BE BOTH WITH A SHELTER LOCATION FOR THE GROUP, BUT WE NOT ONLY HAD PEOPLE THAT POTENTIALLY HAD TO BE MOVED, BUT ALSO HORSES, CATTLE, THAT AREA IS PRETTY DENSE AND IT IS A PASTORAL AREA, SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF WILDLIFE, AS WELL AS DOMESTICATED ANIMALS THAT ARE PART OF THOSE AREAS, AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT QUICKLY BEGAN TO WORK UP A SPONTANEOUS PLAN TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. I WILL SAY, AT THAT POINT, AS THE INCIDENT WAS EXPANDING RAPIDLY AND WE WERE ATTEMPTING TO COORDINATE WITH PUTNAM COUNTY EFFECTIVELY, I DID CALL THE COUNTY MANAGER. HE INDICATED THAT HE WAS BUSY AND PRETTY DIRTY. I SAID GOOD, YOU ARE GOING TO FIT IN JUST FINE. MEET ME AT THE OFFICE, AND WE'LL DRIVE TO THE INCIDENT SCENE, WHICH WE DID. WE THEN PROGRESSED FROM THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE FIRE TO THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE FIRE, WHERE WE BEGAN TO ASSESS THE RESOURCES THAT HAD TO LOOK AT STRUCTURAL PROTECTION OF THOSE PROPERTIES. WE LITERALLY HAVE TO GO INTO THOSE ROADWAYS, MANY OF WHICH ARE DIRT ROADS AND DON'T HAVE VERY GOOD ACCESS, AND LOOK AT HOW WE COULD SET UP PROTECTION OF THOSE HOMES, AS THE FIRE BEGAN ADVANCING, AND I THINK AT THAT POINT IS WHEN I TOOK YOU AND DECIDED I WANTED TO SEE THE OPPOSITE SIDE ON THE 2009 DECOY ROAD CORRIDOR. WE DROVE INTO BOSTWICK. I DON'T THINK HE WAS PARTICULARLY HAPPY WITH ME. WE HAD TO COME UP INTO CLAY COUNTY FROM 2009 SOUTH INTO BOSTWICK AREA AND AT THAT POINT THE FIRE ON THE PUTNAM COUNTY SIDE HAD COME UP ACTUALLY AGAINST THE ROADWAY, AND WE HAD A FEW MILES WHERE WE HAD TO DRIVE THE FIRE LITERALLY COMING AROUND TO GET TO THAT OPPOSITE SIDE AND COORDINATED. GOING TO BE OKAY? I SAID PROBABLY. HE SEEMED ALL RIGHT WITH THAT, ALTHOUGH HE TOOK PICTURES. BY LATE IN THE EVENING, IT WAS PRETTY EVIDENT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A MAJOR FIGHT ON OUR HANDS BECAUSE THE WEATHER FORECAST LOOKING INTO BOTH MONDAY THE 20TH AND TUESDAY THE 21ST INDICATED RED FLAG CONDITIONS. THOSE ARE CONDITIONS WHEN FIRE IS KNOWN TO PROPAGATE AND TRAVEL OVER LARGE DISTANCES. I THINK AT ITS HEIGHT WE WERE SEEING FLAME FRONTS THAT WERE TRAVELING HUNDREDS OF YARDS AT A TIME, SOMEWHAT THAT THEY EXPERIENCED IN BRADLEY COUNTY, WHERE THEY WOULD SPOT OUT, THE FIRES WOULD SPOT OUT AHEAD AND BEGIN TO COME IN BEHIND IT, SO IT WAS, I THINK ONE OF THE [03:50:01] RESTRICTIONS WAS VERY SPORTY. SPORTY WOULD BE A GOOD EXPLANATION OF IT. BY ABOUT MIDNIGHT, 1:00 IN THE MORNING, WE WERE ABLE TO GET A HANDLE ON GETTING AT LEAST SOME BARRIERS ON THOSE WESTERN SIDES, AND FOR THE EVENING, AT LEAST, WE WERE ABLE TO STAND DOWN SOME RESOURCES. FORESTY THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT HAD UPWARDS OF 20 TRACTORS WORKING, BULLDOZERS AND TRACTORS WORKING THE FIRE LINES. BY THE NEXT DAY THEY WOULD HAVE OVER 40 IN OPERATION, SO THIS WAS AN EXTREMELY LARGE OPERATION, AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, THAT THE THING THAT WAS MOST IMPRESSIVE TO ME ABOUT THE FORESTRY EFFORT WAS THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO GET AIR ASSETS IN VERY QUICKLY. THEY BROUGHT IN FIXED WING AIRCRAFT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, FROM CHATTANOOGA, THAT FLEW DOWN AND WERE DROPPING RETARDANT ON THE FIRE THROUGHOUT THE EARLY PART OF THAT EVENING AND ALLOWED THOSE DOZERS TO GET IN THERE AND BUILD FIRE LINES AND OUR STRUCTURAL TEAMS TO WORK WITH THEM TO DO IT. IT WAS EVIDENT BY THE NEXT DAY THIS WAS GOING TO BE A LONG TERM FIGHT. WE ESTABLISHED AN INCIDENT COMMAND POST ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE FIRE. WE WORKED WITH OUR FRIENDS AT VALANCOURT AND THEY ALLOWED US THAT SET UP AREA. I WILL ALSO SAY THAT VALANCOURT THROUGHOUT THAT DAY WAS DEPLOYING THEIR OWN WATER TENDERS ALONG THE FIGHT WITH US, BECAUSE THEY HAD VERY LARGE EQUIPMENT CAPABLE OF MOVING THROUGH THERE. WE THEN BROUGHT IN ADDITIONAL ON DUTY UNITS. WE HELD OUR ON DUTY SHIFT OVER THE NEXT DAY. WE DIDN'T ALLOW THEM TO GO HOME, AND WE STAFFED ADDITIONAL UNITS THAT WE COULD BRING IN TO CONTINUE THAT FIGHT THE NEXT DAY AND STILL MAINTAIN PROTECTION THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. WE DID THAT FOR THREE DAYS IN A ROW, TO BE ABLE TO MEET THAT NEED. BUT MONDAY WAS THE DAY, IF IT WAS GOING TO SPREAD AND MOVE BEYOND US, THOSE WEATHER CONDITIONS MONDAY MORNING WITH THAT WIND CONDITION WAS DRIVING THE FIRE TOWARDS US. FORESTRY MOBILIZED ADDITIONAL AIR ASSETS BEYOND THAT, AND WORKING TO EXTEND LINES, AND WHEN I SAY THAT I MEAN THAT THEY WERE LITERALLY PLOWING ROADWAYS CLOSER TO INTERSTATE HIGHWAYS THROUGHOUT THOSE DENSE, PREVIOUSLY-FORESTED AREAS, IN AND AROUND STRUCTURES TO GIVE US THE PROTECTION THAT WE NEEDED. THEY AUGMENTED THAT WITH THE AIRDROPS. I'M SURE SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN THE VIDEO OF THAT, AND THE MOST EFFECTIVE THING THAT I CAN SEE IS NOT ONLY IN ADDITION TO THE AIRDROPS, THEY BROUGHT IN WHAT ARE KNOWN AS SCOOPER PLANES, WHICH FLEW INTO THE RIVER AND PICKED UP WATER AND WERE MAKING CYCLES IN 10-15-MINUTE CYCLE POINTS TO BE ABLE TO DROP WATER ALONG THE FIRE LINE AND IMPROVE OUR CONDITIONS. TIM, DAVE AND, AND I WERE ABLE TO TAKE A HELICOPTER RIDE WITH THE AIR GUARD AT ABOUT THREE THAT AFTERNOON. IT WAS PROBABLY THE HEIGHT OF THE DANGER FOR US BECAUSE WE HAD TO BE IN THE AIR WHEN THE FIRE DID JUMP 17 AT OR ABOUT THE COUNTY LINE. AND WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT LOSING IT. LUCKILY BETWEEN CLAY COUNTY AND PUTNAM COUNTY UNITS WE HAD POSITIONED UNITS THERE THAT WERE ABLE TO STOP IT. PUTNAM COUNTY HAD A LOT OF STRUCTURES THAT WERE IN DANGER AT OR JUST SOUTH OF THE COUNTY LINE INCLUDING WITH THE WAY THE WIND WAS TRAVELING, THE TOWN OF BOSNIC ITSELF COULD HAVE BEEN THREATENED AS PART OF THAT. BUT WHAT WE REALIZED MONDAY MORNING WAS WE NEEDED A COORDINATED, A UNIFIED INCIDENT COMMAND EFFORT, AND WE ESTABLISHED THAT WITH FORESTRY. FORESTRY HAD TWO ADDITIONAL INCIDENT COMMANDERS THAT THEY PUT IN THERE. WE UNIFIED COMMAND BETWEEN THE PUTNAM COUNTY ASSETS AND THE CLAY COUNTY ASSETS. WE BASED IT OUT OF VALANCOURT, OUT OF THEIR PARKING LOT. THE SHERIFF'S TEAM BROUGHT IN INCIDENT COMMAND POST WHICH IS WHERE WE BASED THE UNIFIED COMMAND STRUCTURE. BROUGHT IN THE LOGISTICS TRAILER THAT ALLOWS US TO SET UP REHAB FOR THAT. WE HAVE A PORTABLE RESTROOM AREA THAT WAS BROUGHT IN AND SET UP THERE. WE ESTABLISHED TRULY A BASE CAMP AROUND VALANCOURT THAT WE COULD BOTH FEED AND COORDINATE RESOURCE DEPLOYMENT OUT OF THAT LOCATION, AND WE BEGAN THAT MONDAY MORNING A LITTLE AFTER 10:00 AND CONTINUED UNTIL THIS PAST MONDAY MORNING AT 8:00. FORESTRY WAS RUNNING CREWS 24 HOURS A DAY. THEY HAD TWO 12-HOUR SHIFTS, FOR THE MOST PART, FIRE RESCUE SUPPORT FOR THE STRUCTURAL PROTECTION AND WORKING BRUSH AND WOODS TRUCKS IN THEIR, WAS WORKING ON A 12 HOUR ROTATION THROUGHOUT THAT TIME. WE REALIZED MID-WEEK WHEN WE REALIZED WE COULDN'T KEEP OUR MEMBERS ON DUTY ALMOST EVERY DAY AND MAKE THEM WORK TWO DAYS AND GO HOME ONE, BROUGHT IN BRUSH STRIKE TEAMS FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE TO AUGMENT US, ABLE TO RELEASE OUR PEOPLE FROM THE [03:55:02] SHIFT. WE TOOK SOME VOLUNTARY OVERTIME, STAND IT DOWN UTILIZED THOSE TEAMS, AND COORDINATED WITH IT. I HAVE TO TELL YOU IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE COORDINATIONS IN MY MIND BETWEEN ALL OF THE MULTIPLE PARTNERS THAT WE HAD WITH IT. IT WAS BOTH, AS I SAID BEFORE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, FIRE RESCUE, WE HAD EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, BUT IT'S BEYOND THAT. FWC HAS TO COORDINATE THE RIVER SO THE SCOOPER PLANES WERE PROTECTED TO GO IN THERE. FHP HELPS TO CONTROL THE ROADWAYS, AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. FOREST BROUGHT IN PARTNERS FOR SAINT JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND OTHER AREAS OF THE STATE. WE WERE FORTUNATE TO HAVE OUR PARTNERSHIP BOTH WITH SAINT JOHN'S AND JACKSONVILLE. AS I SAID, BUT ORLANDO AND CENTRAL FLORIDA CAME IN AS PART OF THOSE TEAMS, SOUTHWEST FLORIDA AND THE LOCAL REGION BROUGHT IN TEAMS TO HELP US WITH IT. AND WE COORDINATED THAT EFFORT OUT OF IT. NOT ONLY DID THEY DO THAT BUT WE FED PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE AND OPERATING TO ENSURE WE COULD CONTINUALLY REMAIN IN THAT WAY. SO THAT COORDINATION STANDPOINT, I THINK THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE DEVELOPED AT OTHER TIMES PROVED ITSELF HERE. THE IDEA THAT WE HAD TO COORDINATE THOSE TWO SEPARATE FORESTRY CENTERS AND THE TWO COUNTIES AND ALL OF THEIR OPPONENTS INTO ONE IS A PHENOMENAL ACCOMPLISHMENT, IN MY MIND, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY MANY PLACES. BUT I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T ALSO THANK THE SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY. THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT WAS AMAZING. WHEN THE CALL WENT OUT, I THINK WE WERE ON THE FIRE LINE WHEN THE CALL WENT OUT THAT PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO DO DONATIONS, THE AMOUNT OF DONATIONS THAT POURED INTO THE FAIRGROUNDS WAS INCREDIBLE. WHAT WE SAW VIA VIDEO COMING IN WAS JUST UNBELIEVABLE. NOT ALL OF THOSE RESOURCES WERE UTILIZED. I THINK WE STILL HAVE 40 OR 50 PALLETS OF WATER AND POWER DRINKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT SITTING OVER THERE. WE GOT ALL KINDS OF PERISHABLE SUPPLIES WE CAN PUT OUT THERE, APPLES, BANANAS, ORANGES, THEY PROVIDED ALL KINDS OF SNACKS, MOST OF THEM HEALTHY, ALTHOUGH I THINK THE LESS THAN HEALTHY ONES TENDED TO GO A LITTLE FASTER FROM WHAT I SAW AT THE COMMAND POST AREA WITH IT. CHAPSTICKS, SUNSCREEN, ALL MANNER OF THINGS THAT POURED IN, I CAN'T THANK THE COMMUNITY ENOUGH AND PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST HEART RENDING THINGS WERE THE THANK-YOU NOTES THAT CAME WITH HIM FROM A LOT OF KIDS AND SCHOOLS AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS, JUST PHENOMENAL. REMINDED ME OF 1998, AND SOME OF THE THINGS WE SAW THERE. BUT WE ALSO RECEIVED MEALS FROM MANY BUSINESSES IN THE COMMUNITY THAT IS EITHER SPONTANEOUSLY STOPPED BY OR CALLED IN TO COORDINATE WITH OUR LOGISTICS STAFF TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I NEED TO MENTION, TOO, IS LAURA WAS ABLE TO COORDINATE A UNIFIED, THEY WOULD CALL IT A JOINT INFORMATION CENTER WITH OUR PARTNERS WITH FORESTRY AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND FHP AND EVERYONE, SO THAT UNIFIED MESSAGING WENT OUT. SHE INDICATED SHE HAD, AND I THINK I'M GOING TO GET THIS WRONG FOR HER, SHE HAD OVER 2.5 MILLION TIMES OF VIEWS. SHE HAD OVER 540 000-00- VIEWERS, MORE THAN HALF A MILLION VIEWERS, MORE THAN 37 TOTAL DAYS OF WATCHING WHATEVER CONTENT WE WERE PUTTING OUT. I KNOW IT WAS PART OF SOME OF THAT CONTENT. I CLEARLY DIDN'T GET TO SIT AND WATCH IT BUT CLEARLY SOMEBODY WAS. IT'S INTERESTING THAT THIS OCCURRED CONCURRENT WITH THE INITIATION OF THE BURN BAN. THE BURN BAN WENT IN LATER THAT WEEK, I GUESS JUST IN TIME APPEARED BECAUSE THE FIRE WASN'T CAUSED BY BURNS BUT WE HAD NUMEROUS ILLEGAL BURNS WE WERE KIND OF WORRIED ABOUT, AS THE FIRE WAS TAKING PLACE, BECAUSE WE WERE STRETCHED PRETTY THIN, BUT SHE HELPED GET THAT MESSAGING OUT, AND HOPEFULLY WE HAVE SEEN A LITTLE BIT OF TAMPING DOWN OF THAT WITH IT. BUT THAT JOINT INFORMATION WAS ABLE TO TAKE PLACE AND I THINK KEPT OUR CITIZENS, AND ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THE EVACUATION AREAS AT LEAST INFORMED. SHILOH BAPTIST CHURCH COME A GREAT PARTNERS IN CREATING A CENTER WHERE WE COULD SEND PEOPLE TO. AND I JUST THINK IT WAS A PRETTY AMAZING SUCCESS, GIVEN ALL THE CHALLENGES WITH IT. IT HAD GROWN BY THE TIME WE LEFT, AND I THINK AS OF THIS MORNING, 4796 ACRES IN SIZE. THOSE FOUR FIRES GREW TOWARDS EACH OTHER, BOTH PUTNAM AND CLAY COUNTY. THE FOREST SERVICE HAD TO DO SOME BACK BURNING TO ENSURE THEY COULD BE BURNED TOGETHER AND GET US BETTER COVERAGE AND BETTER CONTROL LINES WITH IT. STILL ONLY 80% CONTAINMENT. [04:00:04] I DOUBT THAT'S GOING TO REACH 100% FOR SOME TIME. IT'S GOING TO TAKE MOTHER NATURE ULTIMATELY TO DO IT BECAUSE MANY OF THOSE AREAS THAT THE FIRES OCCURRED IN ARE TIMBERLANDS, AND AS THOSE TREES ARE DAMAGED, THEY ARE GOING TO BEGIN TO DROP LEAVES AND PINE AND NEEDLES, AND THAT DROUGHT GROUND HAS A LOT OF HEAT IN IT, THEY WILL COME OUT AGAIN AND WE WILL BE BACK AT IT, BUT AT LEAST IT HAD A CONTROL. I THINK THE MOST PHENOMENAL THING AT ALL IS WE HAVE NO STRUCTURES DAMAGED. NO STRUCTURES DAMAGED. SITTING LOOKING AT THE TERRIBLE FIRESTORM THAT TOOK PLACE IN BRANTLEY COUNTY, I THINK THAT'S AMAZING. I DID HAVE TO, FOR THE GRANT PART OF THIS THAT I WILL TALK ABOUT IN A SECOND, THERE WERE OVER 436 STRUCTURES IN CLAY COUNTY IN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA ADJACENT TO IT. AND IF YOU PUT THE TOTAL VALUE OF THOSE PROPERTIES TOGETHER, THEY ARE IN EXCESS OF $140 MILLION. SO WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN. AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT HAD THAT FIRE STARTED EARLIER IN THE DAY, MUCH LIKE THEY SAW IN BRANTLEY COUNTY, AND THOSE WIND CONDITIONS WERE PRESENT AT THE POINT THE FIRE STARTED, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EXCEEDINGLY DIFFICULT TO STOP IT, EVEN WITH ALL OF THE RESOURCES WE WERE ABLE TO BRING TO BEAR. WE WERE FORTUNATE. WE WERE BLESSED IN TIMING AND BLESSED IN HOW THE TIME OF THAT WIND EVENT TOOK PLACE, LATE ENOUGH IN THE DAY THAT WE COULD ENSURE WE HAD RESOURCES TO GET A HANDLE ON IT, BUT IT WAS A DARN CLOSE THING. AND I THINK I AT LEAST HAVE TO POINT OUT IN CLOSING THAT THAT FIRE WAS LARGE ENOUGH TO TRIP CLAY COUNTY AND THE STATE INTO FEDERAL ASSISTANCE, SO MY POINT, AT MIDWEEK, WE HAD RECEIVED A DELEGATION OF A DECLARATION FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR THE FEDERAL MANAGEMENT ASSISTANCE GRANT. THAT MEANS THAT 75% OF THE COSTS OF SUPPRESSING THE FIRE, BOTH FOR THE STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WILL BE BORNE BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCING WHAT OUR EXPOSURE WAS, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT EVEN IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT, WE COULDN'T HAVE DONE ANYTHING DIFFERENT IN. WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO DO THAT. AND I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH ONE ANECDOTAL PIECE FROM THE FIRE. THE FIRE LINES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT BY OUR FORESTRY PARTNERS WERE GOOD ENOUGH THAT SOMEWHERE LATE ON I THINK THURSDAY OR FRIDAY, AN AMAZON TRUCK DECIDED TO TAKE ONE OF THOSE FIRE LANES AND ATTEMPT TO DELIVER TO A STRUCTURE THAT WAS IN AND ALONG THE FIRE LINE. UNBELIEVABLE, BUT -- >> THAT IS DEDICATION RIGHT THERE. >> THERE IT IS. I'M SURE THAT'S MORE THAN YOU WISHED TO KNOW. HOPEFULLY THAT WAS SUCCINCT ENOUGH. I KNOW IT WAS LATE IN THE EVENING, BUT I WILL TAKE QUESTIONS. >> CONGRESSMAN BEANE HAD A TOWN HALL MONDAY NIGHT AND ALLUDED TO A FIREFIGHTER THAT DIED AND I THINK THEY HAD FIRES UP THERE AS WELL, NASSAU COUNTY. DID WE LOSE ANY INJURY? >> WE DID NOT HAVE ANY FOR CLAY COUNTY FIREFIGHTERS BUT I'VE GOT TO TELL YOU THAT UNFORTUNATELY LATE SATURDAY AFTERNOON, A FORESTRY PARTNER THAT HAD WORKED ON THE FIRE LINE FOR US HAD A MEDICAL EVENT WHILE REHABBING EQUIPMENT AT THE JENNINGS STATE FOREST OFFICE AND SUBSEQUENTLY SUCCUMBED TO THAT, SO YEAH, FORESTRY DID LOSE SOMEBODY. BUT I WOULD POINT OUT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT WE DID HAVE VISITS AND SHOW OF SUPPORT FROM OUR STATE AND FEDERAL PARTNERS. THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, ALONG WITH KEVIN GUTHRIE, CAME ONE DAY. KEVIN SHOWED UP I THINK MONDAY, THE FIRST DAY WITH US, WE HAD THE COMMISSIONER OF AGRICULTURE THERE, ALONG WITH THE DIRECTOR OF THE FOREST SERVICE, AND WE EXPRESSED HOW WONDERFUL THE SUPPORT WAS. I AM NOT SURE THAT A FEW YEARS AGO, BECAUSE FORESTRY HAD A PERIOD WHERE THEIR EQUIPMENT WAS NOT MAINTAINED AND REPAIRED AND REPLACED AS WELL, AND WE ALL POINTED OUT TO BOTH THE COMMISSIONER AND THE DIRECTOR THAT THAT EFFORT THAT THEY UNDERTOOK TO BRING IN NEW PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, I MEAN, 40 DOZERS OPERATING ON THAT FIRE, THAT'S AMAZING, AND THAT'S GREAT CREDIT TO OUR STATE PARTNERS AND WHAT THEY PUT IN THERE. THE AMOUNT OF AIR ASSETS THEY WERE ABLE TO MOBILIZE WAS CRITICAL AND CRUCIAL IN ENSURING THAT WE COULD PROTECT THOSE STRUCTURES. I MEAN, THAT ALL WORKING TOGETHER IN A COORDINATED EFFORT IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING, AND I EXPRESSED IT TO OUR STATE PARTNERS. WE HAD CONTACT WITH MANY OF OUR FEDERAL LEGISLATORS OVER TIME, AND I SAID THE SAME THING TO BOTH CONGRESSMAN DEAN AND CONGRESSWOMAN, SPOKE TO US AT THE COMMAND POST. >> CALIFORNIA IS CAL FIRE, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN THING. [04:05:05] >> IT IS PART OF THAT SOUTHERN COMPACT WE BRING THINGS IN BUT WE HAVE UNITS ON CONTRACT SERVICES THAT THEY KNOW AND CAN CALL AND MOBILIZE. THE HEAVY AIR ASSETS, IF YOU MANAGE TO SEE ANY OF THOSE LARGE FLIGHTS THAT WERE ESSENTIALLY AIRLINERS BRINGING IN AIR SUPPORT, ALL WERE BEING SERVICED OUT OF THE LAKE CITY FACILITY, SO FORESTRY SET UP TO DO THAT, THEY JUST DON'T DO IT ON A REGULAR BASIS. >> CHIEF, AT THE PEAK, I THINK THE ONE THING -- I THINK AT THE PEAK, HOW MANY OFF DUTY CLAY COUNTY FIREFIGHTERS WERE WORKING THE FIRE? HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE LEFT? >> THE GOOD NEWS IS WHILE WE WERE PULLING UNITS OUT, WE WERE ALSO BEGINNING TO BACKFILL. WE TOOK SOME OF OUR RESERVE UNITS THAT WE HAD AND BEING ABLE TO FILL IN BEHIND IT. IT WAS A LITTLE DICEY ON SUNDAY NIGHT, BUT BY MONDAY MORNING, BY HOLDING IN THAT OTHER SHIFT, WE COULD SPREAD OURSELVES OUT, TAKE BETTER ADVANTAGE OF IT, AND BRING MORE UNITS IN. AS I SAID, AT THE HEIGHT OF THE FIRE I THINK ON SUNDAY BETWEEN FORESTRY PARTNERS AND STRUCTURAL FIRE PROTECTION WE HAD WELL OVER 100 PEOPLE. >> THAT WEREN'T JUST WORKING THEIR NORMAL SHIFTS IN THE COUNTY? >> WELL, THEY WERE PART OF THE NORMAL SHIFTS IN THE COUNTY, THEY WERE PART OF OUR PARTNERS, AND THEY WERE PART OF THE FORESTRY STAFF THAT WAS BEING MOBILIZED TO COME IN. >> SO GRATEFUL FOR YOU, CHIEF, AND I JUST THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, ESPECIALLY DOWN IN MY NECK OF THE WOODS, WE TEND TO GET PEOPLE WHO SAY WE COULD GO BACK TO THE VOLUNTEER DAYS, AND THAT FIREFIGHTER IN NASSAU COUNTY WAS VOLUNTEER, AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SERVED FOR ALL THE YEARS THAT THEY DID, BUT I THINK THERE IS VALUE IN THE TRAINING OF PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS AND IN THE ENDURANCE, AND ONE OF YOUR FIREFIGHTERS EXPLAINED TO ME THE PHYSICAL DIFFERENCE, AND YOU AND I HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION OFFLINE, NOT IN THE PUBLIC, BUT EXPLAINED TO ME THE PHYSICAL DIFFERENCE IN FIGHTING A STRUCTURE FIRE AND A WILDLAND FIRE, AND HOW DIFFERENT IT IS, AND THERE ARE EVEN TWO DIFFERENT CERTIFICATIONS AT FIRE SCHOOL, AND THAT THAT IS THAT IS OFTEN LOST ON THE PUBLIC, WHO JUST SAYS WE COULD HAVE VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS, AND THEY COULD GO OUT. AND LOOK, MY HUSBAND MY COUSIN IN LINDY COUNTY, HE WAS A VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER TO SAVE HIS NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THE FIREFIGHTERS WERE SITTING IN THE TRUCKS AND HAD NOT BEEN GIVEN THE COMMAND THEY WERE ALLOWED TO DEAL WITH STRUCTURES, THEY HAD ONLY BEEN TOLD THE WOODS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THE POLITICS THERE ARE. I JUST KNOW MY COUSIN SAVED HIS NEIGHBOR'S' BARN AND HOUSE. YOU ARE GRATEFUL FOR THAT, BUT THE PROFESSIONALS ARE THERE TO DO THE JOB, THEY DO IT MUCH BETTER, SO VERY GRATEFUL FOR YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND ALL THE WORK THAT THEY DID. I THINK IT COULD HAVE BEEN SO MUCH WORSE. >> THIS WAS GREAT TEAMWORK, AND IT WAS TEAMWORK ON ALL SIDES. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I FOUND FROM THE DAY I CAME TO PHILOSOPHY THAT CLAY COUNTY HAD USED HISTORICALLY AND IMPROVED ITSELF WELL HERE IS THAT WE INTEGRATE WITH OUR FORESTRY PARTNERS. WE TAKE IT ON. WE HAVE WOODS AND BRUSH TRUCKS THAT WILL WORK THE FIRE LINES WITH DOZERS IN CONCERT, WE MOBILIZED OUR STRUCTURAL TEAMS TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT STRUCTURES IN AREAS WHERE THEY WERE THREATENED, AND WE TALKED ABOUT AN INTERFACE AREA, AN AREA WHERE THE WOODS LITERALLY AND THE HOUSES ALL COLLIDE AND WE SAW THAT IN BRANTLEY COUNTY AND THE CHALLENGE. WE NEED OUR RESIDENTS TO ENSURE WE HAVE DEFENSIBLE SPACE AROUND THOSE STRUCTURES. LEAVES, TREES IMMEDIATELY OVER STRUCTURES, THINGS LIKE THAT HAVE CLEARANCE SO THAT IT DOESN'T PROVIDE THAT. WE NEED 30 FEET OF SPACE. WE NEED THE ROOFS CLEARED. AND THAT ALLOWS US TO MAKE A STAND ON STRUCTURES LIKE THAT, AND SO WHEN EVERYTHING WORKS IN PARTNERSHIP AS IT DID HERE, WE CAN BE PRETTY SUCCESSFUL. IT WAS A LITTLE BIT BY OUR TEETH, BUT IT ALL WORKED OUT. TO MORROW MAY NOT BE THE SAME AS TO DAY, BUT IT SURE IS A PRETTY GOOD VICTORY FOR OUR CITIZENS, AND I'M SURE EVERYONE IN THAT AREA AROUND 209 AND US 17 ARE EXCEEDINGLY THANKFUL TODAY, ESPECIALLY LOOKING, I HADN'T REALIZED THE EXTENT OF THE DAMAGE IN BRANTLEY COUNTY. I HAPPENED TO DO A MEDIA INTERVIEW EARLY WEDNESDAY MORNING AND SITTING WITH LAURA, WAITING ON THAT VIDEO, AND LOOKING AT THE VIDEO, YOU JUST SAT THERE JUST GOING OVER IN YOUR HEAD THINKING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN US. >> AND LASTLY, CHIEF, IF YOU WILL KIND OF FOR THE PUBLIC, WE [04:10:01] ARE STILL ON A BURN BAN. >> WE ARE STILL ON A BURN BAN? >> AND THAT MEANS NOTHING, RIGHT? EXCEPT FOR... >> WHAT I WILL SAY IS, FIRST OF ALL, WE ARE ASKING THEM TO NOT HAVE ANY OUTDOOR BURNING. WE PROVIDE AN EXCEPTION FOR GRILLING. AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO GRILL, PLEASE MONITOR THAT. SO WE DON'T WANT TO STOP THAT. BUT EVERYTHING ELSE WE ARE ASKING THEM TO STOP. THE FORECAST FOR THIS WEEK MAYBE HAS SOME HOPE TO GET SOME RAIN OUT OF IT, BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, EVEN IF WE GET AN INCH OR TWO OF RAIN, WHICH WOULD BE A MAJOR BLESSING, WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE OUT OF THIS ANYTIME SOON. IT'S GOING TO TAKE WEEKS OF THAT, AND EVEN WHEN WE GET THE RAIN, IT'S GOING TO BRING LIGHTNING AND OTHER THINGS THAT POTENTIALLY COULD CAUSE OTHER STARTS, AND SO WE HAVE TO BE VIGILANT AND COGNIZANT OF THAT. SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE MAINTAIN DEFENSIBLE SPACE, DON'T INTENTIONALLY START FIRES, ACCIDENTAL FIRES ARE GOING TO OCCUR, BUT TRY TO LIMIT THAT. NO CHAINS ON ROADWAYS. YOU CAN'T STOP THE TRAINS FROM RUNNING, BUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT HAVE IT, THERE WILL BE ACCIDENTAL STARTS, BUT WHERE SOMEBODY IS GOING OUT AND INTENTIONALLY TRYING TO BURN SOMETHING, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO LIMIT TAT. WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THE BURN BAN AND DO IT EFFECTIVELY. >> AND HAS FORESTRY MADE ANY MOVEMENT ON NOT APPROVING COMMERCIAL BURNS? >> THEY ARE NOT APPROVING COMMERCIAL BURNS AT THIS TIME. THEY COULD IN THE FUTURE IF WE GET SOME RAIN, AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE SOME MAJOR LAND DEVELOPERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WOULD HAVE SOME MECHANISM THAT COULD PROVIDE SOME MANNER OF CONTROL, BUT IN THE EXTREME DROUGHT CONDITIONS WIND RIGHT NOW, FORESTRY IS NOT APPROVING. >> THANK. >> I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOUR LEADERSHIP IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS, IT REQUIRES AN INDIVIDUAL TO FIRE ON ALL CYLINDERS. AND THAT'S NOT LOST ON ME. AND THE OTHER THING THAT JUST JUMPS OFF THE PAGE IS THE NECESSARY COLLABORATION. I KNOW YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TEAMWORK, BUT COORDINATING AN EFFORT THIS LARGE REALLY BOILS DOWN TO PRESERVED RELATIONSHIPS, AND SO I JUST -- THAT'S A TOP DOWN THING, SO I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING IT TOOK. I APPRECIATE YOUR POINT ABOUT THE RAIN, GOT A LITTLE BIT OF MIDDLE BURN ON SUNDAY, AND THAT'S JUST THE TIP, YOU NEED SO MUCH MORE TO MITIGATE. >> INCHES AND INCHES AND INCHES OF RAIN. >> FORTUNATELY THEY CALL IT RAIN WITH A NAME. >> THAT'LL HAVE OTHER PROBLEMS, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT. I'M GOING TO SAY IT'S NOT ME. WE HAVE THAT ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN OUR STRUCTURE FROM THE FIREFIGHTER ON THE LINE, UP THROUGH IT, I CAN TELL YOU THE GENTLEMAN SITTING BEHIND ME, EVERY ONE OF THEM WERE WORKING MULTIPLE MULTIPLE HOURS. WE DIDN'T DO WHAT WE ASKED OF OUR MEMBERS TO DO, WE ALL DID OURSELVES. AND I DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT MY TIME SHEET YET. IT WAS PRETTY LONG FOR THE LAST WEEK. AND I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE NEEDED EVERYBODY TO BE THERE AND HAD TO BE ALL HANDS ON DECK AND IN THAT COORDINATED ROLL AND RESPONSIBILITY, SO THE CREDIT DOESN'T GO TO ME. IT GOES TO THOSE MEN AND WOMEN THAT HELD THE LINE, BOTH AT THE FORESTRY SIDE, THERE WAS PILOTS THAT LANDED ON THAT RIVER MULTIPLE TIMES AND MADE DROPS OVER FIRES, AND THOSE GUYS AND GALS WHO WORKED THE BULLDOZERS. IT WAS A GREAT COORDINATED EFFORT. IT WAS A TRUE PLEASURE TO SEE. >> I THINK WE WOULD BE REMISS ALSO NOT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE REALLY OUGHT TO BE THANKING EVAN FOR THE TIMING, WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT STRUCTURE, THAT REALLY WAS A TIMING ISSUE. THERE'S NOT A SINGLE ONE OF US ON EARTH WHO CAN ADDRESS THAT. >> IT WAS A MIRACLE. AND AN ANSWERED PRAYER. >> I HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM. MAYBE I DREAMED IT BUT I THINK I READ ONE OF THOSE AIR ASSETS WAS HIT BY A DRONE? >> NO, WE HAD A BURN STRIKE ON ONE OF OUR AIR ASSETS. OBVIOUSLY A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT RISK. THE PLANE WAS ABLE TO MAKE AN EMERGENCY LANDING IN ST. AUGUSTINE, AND NOBODY WAS INJURED WITH IT, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY, AND I TALKED ABOUT IT WITH OUR FORESTRY PARTNERS, WHEN WE DO SIMULATIONS OF LARGE EVENTS LIKE THIS, YOU THROW WILD CARDS INTO IT, AND ONE OF THE WILD CARDS THAT IS USED FREQUENTLY IS WE JUST HAD AN AIRCRAFT CRASH. AND WHEN YOU ARE GOING THROUGH THE SIMULATION YOU GO THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. WE SAT IN THE COMMAND POST AND WENT OH, THAT WAS CLOSE. [04:15:03] >> THE POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS ALONG WITH THE BURN BAN, THERE'S A DRONE BAN TOO. >> YES. >> SO PEOPLE WITH THEIR RECREATIONAL DRONES OUT THERE TRYING TO GET GOOD FOOTAGE, I THINK IT'S -- >> WELL, THEY PUT UP A TEMPORARY AIR RESTRICTION, RIGHT OVER THE AREA, AND WE ASK PEOPLE NOT TO FLY DRONES, BUT IF THEY SEE THEM, ANYBODY WHO SAW THE AIRCRAFT COME IN TO DO DROPS, THE LARGER AIRCRAFT HAVE A SPOTTER PLANE WHICH COMES IN IN FRONT OF THEM. THEY ARE LOOKING FOR HAZARDS LIKE THAT TO WAIVE OFF THE LARGER AIRCRAFT, AND IN CASES WHERE WE HAD DRONES UP, THEY WOULD HAVE TO WAIVE OFF THEM AROUND. IT I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THAT. IT'S PRETTY AMAZING TO SEE. BUT IT CAN BE HIGHLY DANGEROUS. BESIDE THAT I GOT TO EXPERIENCE WITH TIM WAS THAT WE WERE IN THE BLACK HAWK HELICOPTER GOING TO FLY THE AREA AROUND IT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT, AND THEY WERE BRINGING IN AIRDROPS WITH THE LARGER AIRCRAFT. WE HAD TO CLIMB IN THE HELICOPTER TO 4000 FEET. 4000 FEET IN A HELICOPTER WITH AN OPEN DOOR AND A HEAVY WIND GOT PRETTY COLD PRETTY FAST. I WAS IN SHIRT SLEEVES. I THINK BY THE TIME THAT WE HAD GOT TO 4000 FEET AND THEY ASKED US WHAT WE WANTED TO LOOK AT, I SAID I WANTED TO LOOK AT THE GROUND AND KIND OF GET BACK DOWN BECAUSE I HAD NOT DRESSED FOR THE OCCASION. >> LESSON LEARNED. [COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS] >> YEAH. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS. 30TH ANNIVERSARY, CLARK, DID A GREAT JOB FOR THAT. WE HAD ONE OF OUR FIRST VETERAN VILLAGE MOVE INS WITH A RETIRED VETERAN, DISABLED VETERAN, LAST WEEKEND, AND THURSDAY, WE HAVE THE WASTE NOT WANT NOT RIBBON CUTTING, EXPANSION, SO IF YOU HAVE TIME COME 3:00 TO 5:00, OPEN HOUSE TYPE THING. CHALLENGE ENTERPRISE HAS BREAKFAST TOMORROW MORNING. AND IN COMBINATION WITH ALL THE COORDINATION AND COLLABORATION, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE DOUG CONKEY WAS HERE, HE LEFT ALREADY, FROM THE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, AND ALSO LEE WILSEY FROM THE REGIONAL COUNCILS, HOLDING OUT TO THE BITTER END, SO APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENDANCE TONIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. >> I'VE GOT JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. SO LAST WEEK, CHAIRWOMAN BURKE ASKED ME TO RECOGNIZE OUR COUNTY STAFF, SPECIFICALLY OUR LIBRARY STAFF, AND SO I PRESENTED OUR APPRECIATION AT THE FLEMING ISLAND LIBRARY, AND MARY THEN TOOK ME ON A TOUR, AND I GOT TO WITNESS DEDICATED LIBRARY STAFF PUT ON PROGRAMS AND SHOWCASE ART AND REALLY SHOW THE DIVERSITY OF THE LIBRARY SYSTEMS, HOW THEY EVOLVED OVER TIME. THAT WAS REALLY NEAT. AND THEN TONIGHT IT WAS% INTERESTING TO ME THAT WE WERE RECOGNIZING TWO LADIES WHO ARE RETIRING FROM THE LIBRARY SYSTEM. AND MARY HAPPENED TO SAY THAT THE LIBRARIES ARE A SERVICE -- A SERVICE-BASED SYSTEM, A SERVICE-BASED SYSTEM, AND SHORTLY AFTER SHE TOOK A SEAT, WE HAD SBDC MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT BEING VERY THANKFUL FOR OUR LIBRARY SYSTEMS, BUT IT ALL JUST SEEMED TO WORK TOGETHER TONIGHT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THIS SECTOR OF THE COUNTY PROVIDING A RESOURCE THAT REALLY SHOULD NOT BE UNDERSTATED, AND I JUST, SO WHILE I WAS ON THE TOUR I, I WANTED TO BRING THESE FOR THE BOARD TO SEE. MARY HAS GOT IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM, THE RENDERINGS OF WHAT THE OAK LEAF LIBRARY, ACCORDING TO OUR ARCHITECT, HAS PRESENTED TO US. HOT OFF THE PRESS. I WANTED FOR THE COMMISSION TO SEE WHAT IT IS THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING TOWARDS. IT'S REALLY NEAT THAT THE PHOTO ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IS ACTUALLY THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, YET IT HAS THE LIBRARY REFLECTED SO LARGE BECAUSE OF THE POSITIONING OF THAT LOT IN OAK LEAF. WHEN YOU PRESENT TO THIS PARCEL, WHAT HAPPENS IS, BECAUSE OF THE ORIENTATION, YOU ARE ACTUALLY PULLING UP TO THE BACK, SO IT WAS MARY'S CONCEPT TO HAVE THE LIBRARY PART LIT SO THAT PEOPLE [04:20:03] KNEW WHAT THE COUNTY STRUCTURE WAS, APPROACHING THAT PARCEL, AND THEN OF COURSE THE PHOTO ON THE LEFT IS THE RENDERING OF WHAT THE FRONT OF THE LIBRARY WOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT THEN OF COURSE YOU'D ACTUALLY HAVE TO TRAVEL UP THE ROAD AND TURN ABOUT FACE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE FRONT OF THE LIBRARY BECAUSE OF AGAIN THE POSITIONING OF THE PARCEL, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU, AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER RENEGAR, FOR BRINGING UP DOUG CONKEY. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT STARTED 21 YEARS AGO UNDER HIS LEADERSHIP, AND WE ARE JUST -- IT'S FASCINATING TO ME TO SEE HOW FAR THIS PROCESS HAS COME ALONG, AND I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU GUYS. THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO BRING TO OUR ATTENTION IS THAT THIS MORNING COMMISSIONER BURKE AND I WERE AT THE CELEBRATE CLAY BREAKFAST, AND THE TEARS IN THE ROOM WERE VERY MOVING BECAUSE OF ALL OF THESE COMMUNITY PARTNERS. AGAIN, WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH CHIEF MARK, COLLABORATION, ALL OF US IN THIS COMMUNITY WORKING TO FILL NEEDS, AND THERE IS NO -- I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY THIS, BUT THE NEEDS WE HAVE ARE FAR AND THEY ARE DEEP, AND TO SEE SO MANY SELFLESS PEOPLE WORKING TOWARDS MEETING THOSE NEEDS, I THINK THAT THE FOUNDATION DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB HIGHLIGHTING THOSE COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS AND FOLKS JUST GETTING THE JOB DONE. THE THIRD THING I WANTED TO BRING TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION IS NEXT THURSDAY, THAT'S MAY 7TH, FROM 8:30 TO 9:30 A.M., MORNING STAR FAMILY CHURCH IS HOSTING THE NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER SERVICE A NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER SERVICE -- I BELIEVE THE RETIREMENT COMMUNITY IS ALSO HOSTING A NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER SERVICE, AND THEIRS IS AT 7:00 TO 8:00 PM, FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T BE THERE IN THE MORNING, SO I PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE. GET TO JOIN OUR NATIONAL LEADERS IN PRAYING FOR THE COUNTRY. BUT MORNING STAR SPECIFICALLY FOR CLAY COUNTY, SO I WOULD EXTEND THAT TO YOU. AND TO HIGHLIGHT THAT BECAUSE OF IT BEING OUR 250TH ANNIVERSARY AS A NATION, THE PRESIDENT HAS ALSO DESIGNATED MAY 17TH, THAT'S A SUNDAY, TO RECOGNIZE A SECOND NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER FOR ANYBODY WHO WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT, SO PLEASE FIND A COMMUNITY PARTNER THAT IS OFFERING PRAYERS TO THE LORD FOR OUR STATE, OUR COUNTY, OUR COUNTRY. AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I WANTED TO BRING FORWARD A COMMENT THAT WAS MADE TONIGHT ABOUT OUR PROCESS. PROJECT, I THINK IT WAS HELENA, PROCESS THE PROCESS IS SUCH THAT THE CAC HEARS A PROJECT AND THEN, AT SOME POINT, THERE MAY BE CONSIDERATIONS THAT ARE ADOPTED AND THEN PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEN OF COURSE FROM THERE IT COMES TO US, AND THE PROBLEM THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO START WORKSHOPPING IS THE BREAKDOWN IN THAT PROCESS, SUCH THAT ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS TONIGHT, BECAUSE WE HAD SO MANY TIME CERTAIN PROJECTS, WE SAW THIS COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE, AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE PRESENTATIONS TOLD US WHAT THE CAC VOTE WAS AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTE WAS, AND IF THERE IS A BREAKDOWN IN THE PROCESS, SUCH THAT WHAT THEY VOTED ON IS NOT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, THEN THAT GAP MISLEADS US, AND I THINK IT WAS -- I THINK IT WAS BETH, IF I'M QUOTING HER, SHE SAID THE CAC IS DESIGNED TO BE A RECOMMENDING BODY TO THE BOARD, AND SO WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS THEY SAW IF THERE WERE MODIFICATIONS MADE BY THE TIME IT GETS TO US. AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. I KNOW THAT TIMING IS A LARGE PART OF THIS, BUT IF THEIR ROLE IS TO GIVE US GUIDANCE, THEN WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS THEY SAW AND WHETHER THEY WOULD STILL VOTE THE WAY THAT THEY DID THE FIRST TIME, BECAUSE THAT FUNCTION MATTERS. THAT FUNCTION MATTERS. AND I SEE STEPHEN NODDING HIS HEAD, I WOULD IMAGINE, BECAUSE THAT KIND OF BECAME A WRINKLE FOR YOU GUYS TONIGHT, TOO, WITH WHAT HAPPENED, THAT NIGHT BOX IN 220. SO I WOULD LOVE SOME FEEDBACK ON HOW WE SHORE UP THAT CONCERN. AND THEN OTHER THAN THAT, [04:25:05] EVERYBODY HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. >> I HAVE A QUESTION TO THAT BECAUSE THAT HAPPENS OFTEN IN MY DISTRICT. AND COURTNEY, MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER THIS. IF YOU HAVE THE CAC AND YOU HAVE FEEDBACK FROM THE CAC OR YOU HAVE FEEDBACK OR WHATEVER HAPPENS AT THE CAC OR PLANNING COMMISSION, THE EXAMPLE IS HENLEY ROAD, 8:00 P.M., THESE PEOPLE ARE TALKING BEHIND THE SCENE QUITE A BIT, SO WHATEVER THEY ASK FOR OR, HE WENT AND TRIED TO CHANGE IT. THIS HAPPENS REGULARLY. WE WOULD NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT, I WOULD THINK. AND THAT IS A POSITIVE THING. THEY ARE TALKING, TRYING TO MAKE CHANGES, SO THE HOA IS HAPPY, SO WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT? >> IT HAPPENS A LOT IN THE DISTRICT, TOO. YOU RECEIVE A LOT WHERE THE PLANNING COMMISSION SEES ONE ITEM THAT MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS. THEY WANT A LARGER BUFFER. THAT COMES TO YOU. AND YOU ACCEPT THAT RECOMMENDATION. I MEAN, IT WOULD REALLY MESS UP THE PROCESS OF WHAT YOU ARE WANTING US TO HAVE TO -- EVERY TIME THERE IS A CHAIN, YOU ARE HAVING TO GO BACK TO THE CAC ANR SOME KIND OF FINALITY. THAT IS HARD TO PROCESS. TO ADOPT THE CHANGES THEY ARE REQUESTING ALONG THE WAY, IF THE DEVELOPER ACCEPTS THEM OR IF YOU ACCEPT THEM. >> THE SWING IS TOO WIDE, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK EVERY SINGLE TIME, I THINK THAT'S AN EXTREME, THAT I WOULDN'T BE ENVISIONING EITHER, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE A CUT OFF PROCESS BECAUSE AGAIN IF THERE ROLL -- WE JUST CREATED A NEW ONE -- THERE MUST BE BENEFIT TO THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, BUT YOU RENDER THEM INEFFECTIVE IF THEIR ROLE IS TO GIVE US ADVICE AS TO WHAT THEIR COMMUNITY WANTS. WHAT THEY SEE AND WHAT WE SEE IS SO DIFFERENT SOMETIMES, AND THEN FOR STAFF'S PRESENTATION TO US TO BE LIKE HERE IS HOW CAC VOTED, AND THEY ARE BAKED INTO THAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THEIR POSITION. SO WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS NOT AN EXTREME, LIKE EVERY SINGLE TIME THERE IS A CHANGE THAT HAS BEEN MADE, THAT IS NOT REASONABLE. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT A CUT OFF MIGHT BE. AT WHAT POINT IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR THOSE CHANGES TO NO LONGER BE MADE AND THE CAC TO BE VOTING ON WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEN OF COURSE WHATEVER RECOMMENDATIONS THEY WANT TO BUILD, WE HAVE ALREADY FIGURED OUT THAT PROCESS. IT COMES DIRECTLY TO US. >> I THINK THAT PARTLY IT'S AN EVOLUTION OF YOUR CAC. I HAVE, ASIDE FROM COMMISSIONER, I HAVE SEASONED CAC, VERY ACTIVE SHE LEFT, BUT SHE'S ON THE CAC. AND SO THEY -- BUT I GET WHAT THEY SEND. SO SOMEBODY FROM BETH'S STAFF SENDS ME THE AGENDA FOR MY CAC, AND I READ WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTED, AND IT COULD CHANGE. THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHEN MY CAC HAS SEEN SOMETHING BECAUSE SOMEBODY PUT IN AN APPLICATION AND IT STARTED THE PROCESS WITH PLANNING. BUT THEN THEY WITHDREW IT. SO THE CAC SAW IT BUT NOBODY ELSE DID. IT NEVER EVEN GOT TO PLANNING OR EVEN ADVERTISING, FOR THAT MATTER, SO I THINK YOU HAVE TO GET TO THE FLUIDNESS. I THINK YOUR CAC WILL EVOLVE TO THAT POINT. THEY WILL LEARN WHAT QUESTIONS TO ASK. MY CAC HAS STRUGGLED. THEY HAVE PUSHED STAFF. THEY WANT TO BE MORE PUBLICLY INVOLVED. AND I DON'T SUPPORT THAT. AND THE REASON I DON'T IS BECAUSE CHERISE IS NOT STAFFED THAT WAY. DOES NOT STAFF THAT WAY. AND THE MORE MEETINGS YOU HAVE, I MEAN HOW MANY CACS DO WE HAVE? FIVE, SIX? AND WE ARE GROWING, WE ARE TRYING TO START ONE IN KEYSTONE, AND THEY ARE GREAT, THEY ARE A GREAT TOOL FOR US, A GREAT TOOL TO GET MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED BUT IF YOU HAVE STAFF THERE AT EVERY MEETING, WHICH IS WHAT YOU WOULD WANT IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC -- RIGHT, YOU COULD EASILY SEE THIS GETTING OUT OF HAND, YOU KNOW, TAKE THE OLD HEART SITUATION, IF YOU HAD THAT HAVE TO FRONT OF A CAC AND THEN THAT COULD HAVE GOTTEN OUT OF HAND AND THEN WE, THE BCC, [04:30:05] PAYS FOR SHERIFF'S OFFICE INVOLVEMENT, SO WHEN DO YOU HAVE THAT? DO YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO RECORD THEM ALL? THEN DO YOU MAKE THEM MEET HERE? ONE OF >> SO I THINK ALL OF THAT PLAYS IN TO REVOLVE ON THE PROCESS SO I WOULD SAY MAYBE IF YOU LET YOURS LET THEM SETTLE IN AND SEE IF YOU STILL HAVE THOSE FEELINGS, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER BURKE WHEN THEY START TO GET TO THE POINT THAT THEY'RE HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS LIKE THEY WERE HAVING TONIGHT YOU GET A BETTER OUTCOME. >> THAT'S THE GOAL. THAT'S THE GOAL. >> YEAH, YEAH, AND THAT, LIKE MR. MILLER IS GREAT. HE WILL CALL. YOU KNOW, SCOTTIE TAYLOR IS OUR CHAIR, BELINDA JOHNSON IS VICE CHAIR, HE WILL CALL ONE OF THEM AND SAY LOOK, I'VE GOT SOMETHING COMING UP AND IT'S COMING TO BRING YOUR CAC AT THIS POINT AND THEY CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEIR OTHER MEMBERS AND THEY CERTAINLY ARE BOUND BY THE SUNSHINE LIKE WE ARE AND THEY GIVE THEM THAT TRAINING WHEN WE START BUT THEY'LL SAY THINGS LIKE HOW DO YOU THINK THIS WILL GO AND THEY'LL TELL THEM SOMETHING, YOU MAY HAVE SOME STRUGGLES, BUT, YOU KNOW PINE TREE LANE WAS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT ENDED UP COMING IN FRONT OF THE BCC WITH NOTHING. IT WAS STARTED IS AS SOME KIND OF THREE STORY BIG RETIREMENT NURSING HOME KIND OF THING AND IT EVOLVED INTO THAT, SO I THINK IF YOU KIND OF LET THAT PLAY OUT AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME MASSAGE AND YOU HAVE TO GIVE UP A LITTLE BIT OF THAT CONTROL, BUT I THINK YOU GET A BETTER OUTCOME OF WHAT IS GOING TO COME. BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ALWAYS KNOW. HIKE I DON'T THINK THERE'S WHOLESALE CHANGES MADE AT PLANNING THAT DON'T GO BACK TO THEM. THEY WILL MAKE THEM GO BACK IF IT'S TOO BIG OF A CHANGE. STAFF WILL. STAFF MEMBER DOTY WILL MAKE THEM GO BACK TO THE CAC F. THE PLANNING COMMISSION REJECTS IT IS OR THERE ARE TOO MANY CHANGES THEY WILL TELL THEM THEY'RE GOING BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS AND GO TO CAC. I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT BE COMPLICATES IT SOME SITUATIONS, TONIGHT WAS NOT THIS WAY. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO DRC BUT IF THE TIMING LINES UP THEY GO TO THE DRC BEFORE THEY GO TO THE CAC THAT'S WHEN YOU SOMETIMES GET IT SO THE CAC MAY HAVE SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN SENT TO THEM FOUR OR FIVE DAYS TO REVIEW BUT IT'S GONE TO DRC AND STAFF SAYS NO THIS WON'T WORK AT ALL, THEY'VE HAD TO GO BACK TO THE TALK BOARD, THEY'LL GO INTO THEIR CAC MEETING AND HAND OUT ALL NEW PAPERS AND AND I'LL SAY FOR OUR VOLUNTEERS ON OUR CAC THAT'S A LOT. RIGHT? TO READ ON THE FLY AND TO GET FEEDBACK FOR BUT I THINK THAT THEY'RE ALL DOING GREAT JOBS AND I THINK EVEN [INDISTINCT] ISLAND HAS MORE. SO. >> SO THEN IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE IRON OUT HERE IS WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY, BECAUSE WITH THE CAC BEING LESS MATURE, THEN THEM NOT KNOWING THE QUESTIONS TO ASK AT THAT POINT, THEY EXPERIENCE REALLY CAUSES MORE OF A COMPLICATION ON THE BOARD FLOOR THAN THE PROCESS IS WHAT I'M HEARING. RIGHT? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE SAYING WHAT THE CAC NEEDS ARE SEASONED MEMBERS. COMMUNITY WHO KNOW WHAT TO ASK OF THESE PROJECTS, THEN THE TIME IT'S GOING TO TAKE AND THE TURNOVER IN THESE ORGANIZATIONS IF YOU LOSE A SEASONED PERSON YOU'RE STARTING ALL OVER AGAIN. SO THEN IS THE PROPOSAL TO TRAIN SUCH THAT WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE A MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION AT THE CAC LEVEL SO THAT WHAT THEIR CASTING THEIR VOTE IT'S A VOTE BASED ON ALL THOSE PARTICULARS IRONED OUT SO THEN WE CAN RELY OPEN THE ROBUST DISCUSSIONS WE HAD? OR, ARE WE SAYING WE WILL JUST LET IT COME ALL THE WAY TO THE COMMISSION, HAVE A FULL-FLEDGED, I MEAN WE HAD A FULL-FLEDGED CONVERSATION OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD WANT, AND IT, I MEAN WAITS TIME CONSUMING TONIGHT. SO, IS THAT THE PROPOSAL? THAT WE JUST FOR EVERY TIME THE ORGANIZATIONS IS STILL DEVELOPING STILL MATURING, THAT WE ARE THE SUB? WE HAVE TO VET THOSE OUT. >> I THINK IT'S NEITHER OR BOTH. I THINK IT'S NOT ALL OR NOTHING. IT'S SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN DEPENDING ON WHAT THE PROPERTY IS, WHAT THE SITUATION WAS. TONIGHT WAS COMPLICATED BECAUSE THE FUTURE LAND USE WAS VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE CURRENT ZONING. SO, I THINK THAT THE ANSWER IS [04:35:01] SOMETIMES IT TAKES WHAT WE HAD TONIGHT WHERE WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A SHORTER MEETING AND THEN IT GOING LONGER BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD TO INTERACT WITH CITIZENS. BUT THAT'S OUR JOB. ULTIMATELY IT'S OUR JOB. WE'VE CREATED THESE CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEES TO BE ADVISORY. THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK YOU GET BENEFIT FROM BOTH. I DON'T THINK THAT I'M -- I DON'T THINK I'M SAYING THAT YOU NEED SEASONED PEOPLE. I THINK EACH PERSON WHO VOLUNTEERS TO SERVE ON THIS BRINGS THEIR OWN PERSPECTIVE AND IT JUST GETS MORE AND MORE VOICES TO HAVE BETTER INVOLVEMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY EVEN PLANNING COMMISSION WILL SOMETIMES MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO US THAT WE DON'T ADOPTED OR WE DO ADOPT OR WE CHANGE SOMETHING SOMETHING THEY SAID SO ULTIMATELY IT IS, PLANNING COMMISSION IS MUCH MORE SEASONED. THEY'VE BEEN ON THERE QUITE A WHILE BUT I THINK THERE IS POSITIVES AND NEGATIVES. SO I THINK IT'S -- >> ANOTHER THING HAPPENED TONIGHT PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT CAC MEETINGS. CAC I HEARD FROM PEOPLE THE GREAT IDEA. THEY WERE A FEW PEOPLE THAT LIVE RIGHT THERE AND REASON TO BE, SO THAT WAS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING, TOO. USUALLY, THE NEIGHBORS WOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT IT AND WE WOULD HAVE SPOKE U■P,WHICH ISA GREAT THING. AGAIN LIKE WITH TOM YOUNG, THEY CAME TO HIM, YOU HEARD HIM SAY, HE WAS TOTE LID READY TO HELP THEM AND CHANGE AND HE DID, AND THOSE WERE ALL GREAT THINGS. SO THEN IT'S LESS WORK WHENEVER THEY GET HERE. >> THAT CAC IS A BIG AREA. AND THAT ONE MAY BENEFIT FROM WHAT I DID WITH MIDDLE BOROUGH CLAY HILL. I MADE DOTY, I ASKED FOR A MILL BERRY AND CLAY HILL AND THAT AREA IS SO DIVERSE AND BIG, I HAVE MEMBERS FROM 11 THAT ARE NOT FROM THE SAME AREA. THAT MAY HAVE BENEFITED FROM THIS CASE, TOO. IF THEY ALL DON'T LIVE IN THAT AREA, THEY MAY NOT HAVE REPRESENTATION. THIS KIND OF THING COULD ALSO SPUR THEM TO WANT TO A MY AND PARTICIPATE ON THIS SO THAT THEY GET A HILL MORE OF A VOICE. SO YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. >> WE DIDN'T GET AN ANSWER ON NOTICE. >> TO THAT POINT, LIKE WAS IT A BOUND RID THING? BECAUSE CLEARLY, THIS WOULD HAVE AFFECTED -- >> THEY'RE NOT NOTICED. THEY'RE NOT NOTICED. THEY'RE NOT PUBLIC MEETINGS TO BE NOTICED BECAUSE OF THE WHOLE VIDEO SECURITY WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED. THEY'RE NOT INTENDED TO BE FULLY PUBLIC MEETINGS UNLESS THOSE MEMBERS HAVE TOLD OTHER PEOPLE THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON. >> YOU'RE SAYING IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THAT END OF MY DISTRICT. I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYBODY. >> I THINK I JUST GOT CONFUSED BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WERE YOU SAYING WAS THAT YOU HAVE SO MUCH COUNTY STAFF AND LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT PRESENT, BUT IF IT'S NOT PUBLIC THEN WHY DO YOU -- >> WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM. >> WE DON'T PROVIDE THEM. >> NO STAFF GOES, UNLESS IT'S THE CAC OR INITIAL MEETING DOTY DOING TRAINING FOR THEM WITH SUNSHINE, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT A STAFF MEMBER DOES NOT GO. THEY'RE SENT THE MATERIALS AND THEIR CHAIR, THE CHAIR RUNS THE MEETING. STAFF DOES NOT PRESENT THERE. >> I THINK WE DO PROVIDE SECURITY. >> WE DO? OKAY. THAT'S FAIRLY NEW. >> I'M SURE THAT WAS -- >> BY YOUR DISTRICT. >> WE KNOW. >> OKAY, ARE YOU READY TO MOVE UPON MR. SGROMOLO? >> YES. I HAVE A SHORT LIST. IT'S SHORTER AFTER CHIEF MOCK'S DEBRIEF. A LOT OF STUFF ISN'T AS IMPORTANT. A SHOUT TO CHAIRMAN POWELL THE EXPRESSWAY SUMMIT WAS A CULMINATION OF POINT TO GO THE NORTHEAST REGIONS. I WANT TO THANK THE ORANGE PARK ROTARY CLUB. THEY INVITED ME TO COME SPEAK WITH TWO OF OUR COMMERCE FOR A DAY. WE PRESENTED KIND OF WHAT THEIR EXPERIENCES WERE. SHOULT OUT TO RAYMOND COBBETT AND MCKENZIE FROM MIDDLEBURG. CHUTE OUT TO THE CLAY BAR ASSOCIATION FOR THE LAW DAY LUNCHEON. WE GOT TO HEAR A KEYNOTE SPEECH FROM A FEDERAL JUDGE WHICH WAS AWESOME AND THE SUMMATION HER WORDS IN MILE COMPREHENSION WAS THAT OUR NATION IS FOUNDED ON THE ADHERENCE TO LAW AS [04:40:01] AMERICANS AND NO MATTER WHAT SIDE OF THE AISLE YOU'RE ON, WHAT YOUR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS MAY BE OR ANY OTHER FACET OF BEING AN AMERICAN OUR COUNTRY IT'S FITTING THIS 250TH ANNIVERSARY IT'S A COLLECTIVE ADHERENCE TO WE HAVE LAWS IN OUR COUNTRY. TOUCHER TRUCK, THANKS FOR THE HARD WORK TO STAFF, I KNOW LITTLE ONES THAT HAD A BLAST AND WOULD DO THAT EVERY DAY IF THEY HAD THE CHANCE. AND LAST THING, GRATEFUL IS AN UNDERSTATEMEMT TO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY. TONIGHT WITH THIS IS PROCLAMATION, WE ARE THE MOST PRO-PUBLIC SAFETY PLACE I KNOW OF AND I'M SO PROUD TO BE PART OF THAT. THE FIRE IS SOMETIMES, YOU WONDER OR YOU THINK THAT CAN COULDN'T HAPPEN HERD AND THEN IT DOES AND THEN IT'S JUST SO REASSURING THEN TO SEE THAT WE ARE READY, AND JUST CHIEF MOCK, YOU KNOW SHERIFF COOK, TIM, YOUR TEAM, THE MEN AND WOMEN ON THE GROUND, WOW. I MEAN I'M PROUD. I'M EXTREMELY PROUD TO BE ON THIS TEAM AND GREAT WORK, GREAT WORK. AND LAST THING IS, IS TONIGHT THERE WAS A THEME. AND THE THEME WAS COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT TOO OFTEN THAT YOU SEE RESIDENTS ACTIVELY NEGOTIATING WITH DEVELOPERS, BUT LISTEN. THAT'S HOW THIS IS EXPOSED TO WORK IN A COMMUNITY IN A DEMOCRACY AND I THINK ALL OF US ON THE DAIS WHETHER YOU WANT TO SAY WE GET HEAT FROM PEOPLE OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE THAT'S WHAT WE HAD SIGNED UP FOR AND I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR WHEN YOU DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. YOU COME TO THE MEETING YOU PRESENT AN IDEA AND IT HOUSE TO US PUBLICLY COLLABORATE, WE FIND SOLUTIONS AND WHILE, YOU KNOW, THE DEBATE ABOUT THE 220 PROJECT WAS ROBUST AND YOU MADE VALID I HAD POINTS MISS COMPERE NONE OF US WANTS TO DO THAT EVERY SINGLE TIME THIS WAS A REZONING I THOUGHT THAT WAS EXTREMELY PRODUCTIVE, WE HAD MEMBERS AFTER COMMUNITY HAD VISION FOR A PROJECT HAD A DEVELOPER THAT HAD VISION FOR A PROJECT WE HAD OUR VISION AND WE WORKED TOGETHER TO FIND A SOLUTION THAT'S AS WIN-WIN AS POSSIBLE SO IT WAS A FREIGHT MEETING TONIGHT. THAT'S ALL I GOT. >> I WOULD AGREE. I QUICKLY WILL JUST SAY WHILE THE REST OF YOU WERE AT LAW DAY I WAS SPEAKING FOR THE CHAMBER WOMEN'S EMPOWERMENT LUNCHEON WHICH WAS A REALLY NICE SOLD OUT EVENT, AND I APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, AND LIKEWISE, ON THE SEVENTH, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON, SO IF YOU DON'T SEED A COMMISSIONER SOMEPLACE, YOU THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE THAT NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER, LEAF MEMORIAL AND REGIONAL COUNCIL SO WE HAVE TO BE THERE. SO, ANYWAY, LOT GOING ON, BUT GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE ININVITATIONS AND OPPORTUNITY. WE JUST CAN'T REPLICATE OURSELVES AND BE ANYWHERE. I THINK BFRM OUR NEXT MEETING WE HAVE WOMEN, THE WOMEN BUILD, WOMEN BUILD. >> GALA. >> AT THE CLAY THEATER ON THURSDAY NIGHT, THE 14TH. AND SO, JUST A WHOLE LOT OF GREAT PLACES TO BE AND CERTAINLY CONDOLENCESES TO THAT FIREFIGHTERS FAMILY BOTH THE FIREFIGHTERS IN OUR AREA THAT WERE LOST THE ONE FOR FORESTRY, THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN KIND OF AROUND THE FOREST AREA AND STUFF HE WAS A REALLY NICE GUY. I MET HIM AND REALLY NICE GUY SO SAD, SO JUST BRINGS IT HOME WHAT IT COULD BE AND WHERE THIS CAN BE AROUND YOU, AND THEN AT THE WHOLE TIME, LIKE I KNOW OF LIKE DURING THAT 5 ILLEGAL BURNS OR ACCIDENTAL FIRES THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD TO RESPOND TO. ONE WAS A POWER LINE THAT FELL IN KEYSTONE ON SUNDAY AND THE PEOPLE WERE PANICKED, AND THEY DIDN'T NODE WHAT TO DO BECAUSE IT SET THE GRASS ON FIRE. SO AT ANY RATE, AS WE GO, WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THAT, SO I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO COVER THOSE. OH, AND NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER A KEYSTONE IS 5 P.M. TO 6 P.M. IN BRIAN'S ACE HARDWARE PARKING LOT. >> OH. >> OUTDOOR. MAYBE AT 6 BECAUSE THEY HAD CLOSE AT 6:00. ANYWAY, CHECK THE TIME. [04:45:01] >> I JUST, I DON'T HAVE MUCH. I HAVE TO SAY, PROBABLY FROM WHAT YOU SAID AND WHAT EVERYBODY SAID, I MEAN, TO BE A PART OF CLAY COUNTY, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE GET THAT WE GET TO GO TO AND BE PART OF AS A COMMISSIONER JUST MAKES YOU SO PROUD, AND THE, JUST TO KIND OF WRAP IT UP TOGETHER, TOUCH A TRUCK, CLAY COUNTY AWARDS THIS MORNING I THINK THE THEME TO ME WAS FIRST OF ALL COMMUNITY, BUT THESE PEOPLE THAT I MEAN, VOLUNTEERS OF THE YEAR, TOUCH A TRUCK THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT WERE CRYING BECAUSE OF THE THINGS THEY'RE DOING FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I WAS ON STAGE, I WAS CRYING. I COURSE IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME, BUT THIS LADY THAT WAS VOLUNTEER OF THE YEAR, SHE SAID THAT HER MOM, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY DID IN THEIR FAMILY THAT, THEY DID IT GROWING UP, THEY VOLUNTEERED, AND SHE WANTED TO TEACH HER KIDS THAT IT WAS JUST A WAY OF LIFE AND THAT WAS JUST WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING AND WAITS SO AWESOME AND THE PEOPLE TODAY THAT WON, YOU KNOW, IT JUST MADE ME SO MORE EVEN MORE PROUD TO BE A PART BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE MAKE THIS COMMUNITY WHAT IT IS, AND SO I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT WAS MIGHT BIG TAKE-AWAY FROM THE PAST WEEK, JUST SUCH A SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND PRIDE AND THE WAY CHIEF MOCK SPOKE AND WE WERE JUST, WE WERE SO BLESSED AND SO * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.