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>> ALRIGHT, THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION BOARD FOR CLAY COUNTY IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER.

[Approval of Minutes]

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AND I WILL ENTERTAIN APPROVAL OF MINUTES. >> I HAVE A CORRECTION.

>> OKAY. >> ON MEN NUTS -- MEN NUTS, IT REFERS TO EMILY JONES, HER NAME

IS EMILY JANE. SHE'S WITH FPAN. >> THE BEGINNER, LAST NAME

MURRAY. >> IT'S EMILY JANE MURRAY. >> I HAVE A QUESTION ON IT.

ONE OF THE THING INS THE MINUTES SAYS I THINK YOU WERE THANKING HER FOR THE TRAINING AND IT WAS IN THERE SAYING THAT THESE ARE MONTHLY TRAINING, AND I'VE NEVER GOTTEN ANOTHER SINCE

I'VE BEEN ON, IS THAT AN ERROR OR IS IT TRUE THAT IT'S -- >> MONTHLY TRAINING WITH THE

STATE. >> WHATEVER OUR ONE WAS THAT WE WATCHED LAST TIME, LIKE RIGHT AFTER THAT IN THE MINUTES, ID SAID THESE WERE THINGS WE GOT MONTHLY.

IS THAT TRUE? >> SOMEWHAT MONTHLY, YES. >> OKAY.

AND HOW DO YOU ANNOUNCE THAT? THIS IS JUST FOR MY INFORMATION. >> I ANNOUNCE IT THROUGH AN

E-MAIL, I SHARE THE LINK WITH YOU. >> THE ONES IN OUTLOOK?

>> YES, THROUGH E-MAIL. >> OKAY. ANY OTHER CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS OR SUBTRACTIONS? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE MINUTES APPROVAL AS

CORRECTED. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> A SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. >> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? >> ABSTENTION. HOW ABOUT ABSTENTION?

>> IF YOU WANT TO -- >> YEAH, BECAUSE I'M HAVING DIFFICULTY ACCESSING THE FULL MINUTES AND THEREFORE THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE QUESTIONABLE BUT I'M NOT READY TO MAKE AN ISSUE OF IT BUT, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REALLY SAY THAT I THINK IT WAS ALL GREAT SO I SAY NOTHING BUT, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY CARES, IT'S ALRIGHT.

>> OKAY. SO CARRIED. OKAY.

PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NOBODY IN THE AUDIENCE, WE'LL CARRY ON TO OLD BUSINESS.

[Old Business]

AND WE HAVE CEMETERY UPDATE. SO, I'LL SEND IT TO OUR RESIDENT EXPERTS.

>> OKAY. SO WHAT DO WE HAVE GOING HERE? AS FAR AS SAUDER CEMETERY, THERE IS ANOTHER CLEANUP THAT'S BEING DONE BY KEEP CLAY BEAUTIFUL THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE SAUDER CEMETERY ON APRIL 18 FROM 8:30 TO NOON. WE DID HAVE ONE THAT WAS DONE IN FEBRUARY I GUESS AND THAT WAS GREAT. WE WERE OVER THERE AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT SOME BRANCHES DOWN FROM THE STORM SO JASON SAYS HE'S GOT VOLUNTEERS SET UP SO THAT'S AWESOME. THEY'LL COME AND GET THAT ALL PICKED UP.

IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ANY DAMAGE TO THE STONES OR ANYTHING THERE.

WE DID HAVE A SEE SAVE VETERAN STONE WAS INVOLVED ON MARCH 20 FOR JAMES CORNELIUS WEST, SO THE SONS OF THE CONFEDERATE VETERANS HELPED US GET THAT AND THEY CAME AND PUT IT IN, IT LOOKS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. WE'RE ALSO -- THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER ONE SUBMISSION FOR A MARKER FOR JAMES KEEN, WE'RE GOING LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE IF WE CAN'T GET THAT.

WE HAVE EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR HIS OBIT DOESN'T SAY HE'S BURYESED THERE, WE HAVE MILITARY RECORDSAND EVERYTHING ELSE, WE'RE HOPING THEY WILL ACCEPT THAT AND WE CAN GET A STONE FOR HIM BECAUSE HE HAS NOTHING. THERE'S SEVERAL UNMARKED GRAVES IN SAUDER CEMETERY. WE WERE USING DOWNING RODS AND WE LOCATED SEVERAL AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING -- POSSIBLY IDENTIFIER, WE HAVE A LIST OF PEOPLE WE KNOW ARE BURIED IN THERE. WE'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO KNOW NA'S WHO'S IN THAT SPOT BUT WE'LL KIND OF KNOW IT'S ONE OF THOSE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT WE'RE MISSING AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY

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TO PUT METAL MARKERS TO PRESERVE THEIR MEMORY, WE'VE DONE SOME WITH OTHER ONES THAT ARE THERE. WE DO HAVE SOME FUNDS AVAILABLE BUT THIS IS ALL BASED ON THE FUNDS WE HAVE AVAILABLE FROM DONATIONS OR IF USERS WANT TO SPONSOR A MARKER.

THEY'RE LIKE 20 BUCKS A PIECE, NOT A BIG DEAL, BUT I HAVE REACHED OUT AND KIND OF PUT THE WORD OUT ABOUT THAT. THERE ALSO WAS A STORY -- WRITTEN STORY OVER THE YEARS THAT SAYS THERE WAS THE DAUGHTER OF THE MCMULLEN THAT WAS BURIED IN THE CEMETERY BUT WE COULD NOT FIGURE OUT WHICH DAUGHTER WAS BURIED IN THERE. I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH AND I THINK I HAVE IDENTIFIED WHO IT WAS, JULIA MCMULLEN WHO LIVED IN CLAY COUNTY, HER PARENTS WERE FARMERS AND NEXT TO OTHER PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THAT AREA, SHE DIED IN 1913 AT THE AGE OF 22. SO, WE BELIEVE WE'VE IDENTIFIED WHO THAT MYSTERY PERSON IS WHICH IS KIND OF COOL. WE ALSO HAVE BEEN STILL DOING WORK AT MCHENDRY CEMETERY, WE WERE OUT THERE ON THE 23RD, WE DID HAVE A TREE COME DOWN AT THE CORNER OF THE CEMETERY, THANK GOODNESS IT DID NOT DAMAGE ANY OF THE STONES. WE WERE ABLE TO REMOVE MOST OF THE DEBRIS FROM THE TREE EXCEPT FOR THE TRUNK BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE OUR CHAINSAW WITH US.

I DID HAVE THREE VOLUNTEERS THAT CAME OUT ON THE 23RD AND HELPED US WITH CLEANUP AND CLEANING SOME STONES AND STUFF. OUR NEXT TENTATIVE WORK DAY IS GOING TO BE APRIL 12 FROM 9-12.

AND WE'LL BE GOING OUT THERE DOING SOME MORE REPAIRS AND CLEANUP AS WELL.

I HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY UPDATES AS FAR AS THE MISSING DRK AR MARKER FOR LEWIS WILL FORD AT OLD HICKORY GROVE. I DID REACH OUT TO A LADY THAT IS WITH A LOCAL DAR TO ASK HER IF SHE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN REPLACING THAT. HE DOES HAVE A STONE BUT THE DAR MARKER THAT SAYS HE'S A REVOLUTIONARY WAR VETERAN HAS BEEN GONE FOR SOME TIME.

SO, WE'RE HOPING WE CAN GET THAT REPLACED. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> ALRIGHT, MINE SHOULD BE PRETTY QUICK. WE GOT PETER WALKER'S HEADSTONE.

HE WAS A CIVIL WAR VETERAN AND WE'LL HAVE IT IN PLACE PRETTY SOON.

WE HAD A HAOUMG TREE COME DOWN BUT IT'S FIREWOOD NOW. THAT'S SETTLED AND HENRY BENNETT IS OUR LAST -- AND THAT'S A WORLD WAR I VETERAN E WANT TO GET A STONE F I MAY HAVE FOUND ONE OF HIS NIECES THAT CAN SIGN OFF FOR THAT. OTHER THAN THAT, I WAS GOING TO MENTION THE GRAVER, THE UNMARKED ONE ON THE RIEN HOELT LAND TO DO A FOLLOW-UP ON THAT, DID WE ALREADY MENTION THIS HERE OR -- OKAY, IT'S THEY HAD HOMICIDE DETECTIVES GO UP AND DIG UP SOMEBODY'S DOG AND I TOLD THE LADY, MY LAST E-MAIL TO HER WAS IT'S PROBABLY

SOMEBODY'S BELOVED PET THAT'S OUT THERE. >> THAT'S WHAT I TOLD HER TOO.

>> BUT SHE BOTHERED KATHY AND KATHY EXHAUSTED HER AND THEN I DIDN'T KNOW, IT WAS THE SAME THING AT FIRST, THEN SHE CAME O ME ABOUT IT. SO, BUT -- SHE HAD THE NEWS

CREWS OUT THERE I GUESS AND EVERYTHING. >> SHE WAS WALKING DOWN A TRAIL WITH HER DOGS AND SAW A WOODEN CROSS AND WHAT APPEARED TO BE A BURIAL AND SO SHE WANTED TO CHECK IT OUT. SO, I WENT OVER THERE AND I SAID, YES, THERE IS SOMETHING BURIED HERE, IT'S PROBABLY A PET BUT IT WAS A FAIRLY GOOD SIZE BURIAL AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, MY RECOMMENDATION IS IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS TO CALL LAW ENFORCEMENT.

WHICH SHE DID AFTER SHE CALLED CHANNEL 4 NEWS. [LAUGHTER].

SO, D THEY ARE GOING TO [INAUDIBLE]. ER

>> WE'RE STILL WAITING OP THE AUTOPSY RETURNS FOR THAT ONE. THAT'S ALL FROM MY END.

>> OKAY. >> I GUESS THE GOOD POINT OF THAT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TELL PEOPLE BECAUSE THERE ARE -- CLAY COUNTY HAS GOT A LOT OF PLACES THAT USED TO BE OLD HOMESTEADS OR WHATEVER, IT COULD BE THAT THERE ARE BURIALS OUT THERE THAT USED TO BE ON FAMILY OWNED PROPERTY THAT'S NOT AN ACTUAL CEMETERY, SO WE TRY AND ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, IF YOU FIND SOMETHING AND THAT YOU THINK MIGHT BE A BURIAL TO AT LEAST LET US INVESTIGATE.

>> EVERY NOW AND THEN, WE WILL GET A CALL BY SOMEONE WHO ASKED IF THEY COULD BE BURIED ON

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THEIR OWN PROPERTY AND WE HAVE TO TELL THEM NO. THERE IS AN OFFICIAL PROCESS TO DO IT AND WE WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO ZONE THAT AT THE PROPERTY SO IT CAN BE

COMMEMORATED AS CEMETERY. >> DID YOU SAY DIVINING RODS? >> THEY'RE THE SAME THINGS,

DIVINING RODS AND DOUSING RODS. >> I THOUGHT WHEN YOU TAKE A FORK STICK AND WAIT FOR IT TO

POINT DOWN. >> THEY'RE COPPER RODS THAT ARE USED TO FIND DISTURBANCES IN THE GROUND. SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT PEOPLE HAVE USED THEM TO FIND WATER.

>> OKAY, SO IT IS -- >> IT FINDS DISTURBANCES IN THE SOIL, SO IT ALSO WORKS WITH

FINDING BURIALS. >> CURIOUS THOUGH, IF YOU DO -- OKAY, IT'S DOWN AND THINK

THERE'S SOMETHING THERE, DO YOU DIG DOWN TO FIND OUT WHAT IT IS? >> WE DO NOT DO ANY DIGGING AND THE ONLY TIME I'VE USED THEM IS IN CEMETERIES WHERE WE KNEE *F KNOW THERE ARE BURIALS AND JUST TRYING TO DETERMINE BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE'S UNMARKED GRAVES IN THERE, STRINGING TO FIND OUT WHERE THERE ARE GRAVES. I'M NOT GOING TO BE DIGGING IN TH GROUNDS.

>> I WAS CLARIFYING IT BECAUSE -- >> THAT'S WHAT I TOLD THIS LADY.

I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S SOMETHING BURIED HERE BUT I NAOEMENT GOING TO BE DIGGING,

YOU KNOW. >> ANY UPDATES ON THE CATHOLIC CEMETERIES THAT YOU WERE DISCUSSING LAST MEETING? YOU TALKED TO SOMEONE WHO WAS GOING TO IDENTIFY SOME --

>> YEAH, YOU HAD SAID YOU WOULD FOLLOW UP RIGHT WHEN I HAD ASKED THEM FOR THE SPECIFIC

INFORMATION, YOU SAID YOU WOULD FOLLOW UP ON THAT. >> THE ONE THEY HAD BROUGHT UP.

THAT'S WHY YOU KNOW I HAD TEXTED YOU AND YOU WERE ON VAI KAIG, THAT'S WHEN EMILY WAS OUT, I THOUGHT YOU HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO HER BUT YOU WERE OUT OF TOWN.

ER >> I'M SORRY, I DON'T RECALL WHAT ONE THAT WAS.

>> MAYBE THIS IS JUST THE SAME DISCUSSION OR WHATEVER, BUT I THINK YOU SAID AT LEAST YOU HAD INITIAL CONTACT WITH THE CATHOLIC DIE *F DIOCESE OF ST. AUGUSTINE, RIGHT?

>> I DID. ER >> I CAN TRY TO FOLLOW UP AND SEE BECAUSE I'M CURIOUS ABOUT IT. WHO WAS IT?

>> SO, I CALLED THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT IS HERE IN CLAY COUNTY AND HAD THEM INVESTIGATE BECAUSE I WAS TOLD THAT THERE USED TO BE A CEMETERY BY THE OLD CATHOLIC KL*URJ IN GREEN COVE WHICH IS IN GREEN COVE, IT'S IN THE HISTORIC PART, THEY SAID THEY HAD NO RECORD, THAT CHURCH IS 150 YEARS OLD, THEY HAVE NO RECORD THAT THERE WAS A BURIAL THERE.

I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WAS ON THE GIS. THERES NO RECORDS --

>> I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE IN MIDDLEBURG. >> THE OTHER ONE IN MIDDLEBURG, WE DO KNOW IT WAS THERE. THERE IS A HISTORICAL MARKER THERE BY THE BLACK KURK METHODIST CHURCH THAT MENTIONS IT, PLUS I HAVE DOCUMENTATION OF THAT THAT TALKS ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THAT CATHOLIC PER -- PERISH, IT WAS VERY SMALL AND IT'S BEEN GONE FOR OVER 100

YEARS, THERE'S NO EVIDENCE OF IT. >> NOT THAT LONG, 1920'S IS THE EARLIEST, YEAH. WELL, I GUESS NOW THAT IS 100 YEARS.

TIME GOES BY, DOESN'T IT, ALRIGHT. YEAH, BUT I SPOKE TO THEN A LIVING PERSON, ONE OF THE LAST OF THE SOUND MINDED FRISBEES WHO TOLD ME HE WAS A YOUNG PERSON WHEN THE TOMBSTONES DISAPPEARED ALMOST OVERNIGHT BUT NOBODY KNEW WHAT THE THEY

HAD DONE WITH THEM. >> YEAH, NOBODY KNOWS, I HAD HEARD THAT FROM THEM TOO.

IT WAS PRIVATE PROPERTY NOW THERE'S A HOUSE ON IT. >> NEW FOR MIDDLEBURG, YES.

SORRY. >> YEAH. >> YES, WELL, I'LL TRY TO GET HOLD OF THE ARCH DIOCESE AND SEE IF I CAN FIND OUT ANYTHING. ALRIGHT, I WENT TO ALABAMA WHICH USED TO HAVE JURISDICTION ON EVERYTHING ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ST. JOHNS BUT I HAD NO

LUCK WITH THEM, THEY COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING. >> ALRIGHT.

[New Business]

WE'LL GO ON TO NEW BUSINESS AND THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE FOR OFFICERS.

AND I'LL LET BETH SPEAK TO THIS. >> SO, BY CODE, THE CODE CALLS FOR A NOMINATING COMMITTEE TO

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BE FORMED NO LATER THAN APRIL MEETING AND SHALL PROPOSE A SLATE NO LATER THAN THE MAY MEETING TO DETERMINE CANDIDATES FOR CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, WE NO LOPING NEED A SECRETARY BECAUSE THE CLERK OF COURT DOES OUR MINUTES SO WE DON'T NEED THAT POSITION.

I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO YOU, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS WHAT THE CODE SAYS.

YOU CAN CHOOSE TO SELECT A NOMINATING COMMITTEE OR IF YOU WOULD AS A BOARD LIKE TO, THE NEXT -- THE NOMINATIONS RECEIVED ON THE FLOOR OF THE JUNE MEET ISING WHEN YOU WOULD BE

ELECTING, SO IF YOU WANT TO -- >> DIDN'T WE ALREADY JUST DO THIS?

>> WE HAVE TO DO THIS EVERY YEAR? >> YOU DO IT EVERY YEAR.

>> IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT WAS A YEAR AGO. >> IT'S BEEN A YEAR.

>> THE PROCESS TAKES A WHILE, SO APRIL IS THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE, MAY IS THE MONTH FOR FORMALIZING WHICH COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, WHO IS -- WHO WOULD BE CONSIDERED, JUNE IS WHEN YOU VOTE ON IT AND THEN WE DON'T MEET IN JULY, SO AUGUST IS WHEN THEY TAKE PLACE, SO IT'S A VERY LONG PROCESS. IT'S WHAT WAS ESTABLISHED, SO, I WILL LEVER IT UP TO YOU TO

DECIDE HOW YOU WANT TO DO THIS. >> DO WE WANT TO JUST DO NOMINATIONS FROM THE FLOOR OR

DO WE ALL WANT TO DO IT AS A COMMITTEE? >> I'M WELL FOR DOING IT ON THE

FLOOR. >> FINE WITH ME. IS THAT AN OPTION BECAUSE OF

CALLS FOR COMMITTEE TO BE FOLLOWERED? >> BETH SAID WE COULD.

>> IF YOU WANT TO FORM A COMMITTEE, YOU CAN FORM A COMMITTEE.

IF YOU WANT TO -- >> DON'T WE HAVE TO FORM A COMMITTEE?

>> YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO. >> THE QUESTION *F QUESTION IS DO WE HAVE TO?

>> IT'S NOT BEEN DONE EVER. YOU'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, HAS THERE EVER BEEN A COMMITTEE

FORMED? >> WE USED TO DO THAT BACK IN THE OLD DAYS WHEN WE MET AT THE OLD COURTHOUSE AND SO FORTH AND WE WEREN'T SO CLOSELY MANAGED, BUT I THINK WE'VE BEEN -- YEAH,

IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO, DID WE? BECAUSE I'VE BEEN AWAY. >> I THINK A COMMITTEE WOULD BE GOOD BECAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN ON ONE MYSELF, A LOT OF TIMES JUST TALKING TO SOMEONE, YOU CALL THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND SAY ARE YOU INTERESTED VERSUS HAVING SOMEBODY POP UP ON THE FLOOR AND THEN MAYBE YOU COME IN WITH A SLATE OF PEOPLE. I KNOW THERE'S HARDLY ANY OF US.

>> YOU NEED TO SPEAK UP. >> SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE. WHY CAN'T I MOVE THE MICROPHONE TO ME? I WASN'T SAYING ANYTHING. COMMITTEES, YES.

YES, WELL, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF FORMING A COMMITTEE AND I WOULD BE WILLING TO BE A MEMBER OF THAT COMMITTEE. I DON'T THINK I COULD BE A CANDIDATE BECAUSE I THINK MY TERM IS EXPIRING IN JULY OR SOMETHING OF NEXT YEAR BUT THAT'S ALL THE BETTER, YOU KNOW.

A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE SHOULD HAVE CLEAN HANDS AND SO FORTH, RIGHT.

>> OKAY, SO YOU AND BARBARA WANT TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE? >> YEAH.

>> DO YOU THINK ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO JOIN THE COMMITTEE? >> I'LL JOIN.

>> ALRIGHT, WE HAVE THREE. >> NOW SOMEBODY WHO HAS GOOD PENMANSHIP SHOULD BE TAKING

MINUTES OF THIS OR NOT? >> YES, WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE THE MINUTES FOR YOUR COMMITTEE?

>> YES, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE UNDERHANDED THINGS GOING ON.

>> IF YOU ARE GOING TO MEET OUTSIDE OF HERE, I WILL NEED TO KNOW WHEN YOU'RE AVAILABLE TO MEET AND WE'LL HAVE TO SET UP THAT MEETING. ER

>> SO, I WILL LEAVE IT TO YOU THREE TO DECIDE AND THEN GET WITH BETH ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE

MEETING. >> WELL, MAYBE WE SHOULD TRY TO PRELIMINARILY FIGURE OUT WITH BETH WHAT'S AVAILABLE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK TO EACH OTHER IN BETWEEN MEETINGS

UNLESS WE'RE IN A SUBCOMMITTEE. >> RIGHT.

>> IF YOU GIVE ME AN IDEA AND THEN I CAN LOOK FOR A PLACE FOR YOU ALL TO MEET.

>> GOOD, GOOD. >> AND BY VIRTUE OF THE FACT THEY'RE ON THE COMMITTEE, THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE NOMINATED FOR THE POSITIONS, CORRECT?

>> I DON'T THINK SO. THE OTHER MEETING, THE OTHER GROUPS, OUTSIDE INDEPENDENT ONES, THEY SOMETIMES DO THEMSELVES, BUT WE WILL PROBABLY NEED PHONE NUMBERS OR SOMETHING SO THAT WE CAN TALK TO PEOPLE. BUT ARE YOU INTERESTED, WHAT

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ABOUT THIS, HAVE YOU EVER DONE THIS BEFORE? >> I'M TERM LIMITED SO I CAN'T

DO THIS AGAIN. ER >> WHAT?

>> I'M TERM LIMITED, YOU CAN ONLY SERVE TWO CON SEK TIER YEARS AS CHAIRMAN UNTIL YOU

HAVE TO ROTATE OUT. >> OKAY, THAT'S TOO BAD. >> ANYWAY, ALRIGHT.

THAT IS -- >> SO, HOW WILL WE CONTACT TO TALK TO PEOPLE, IN A GROUP I GUESS, WE ALL MEET AND TALK TO PEOPLE AND TALK TO THEM, IS THAT POSSIBLE TO SHARE THE PHONE NUMBERS? > YES, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE IN THE CONTEXT OF YOUR INTEREST.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH -- YOU OBVIOUSLY CAN'T BE TALKING ABOUT BUSINESS OF THE BOARD SO IT NEEDS TO BE WHAT'S YOUR INTEREST, WHAT YOES AOUR BACKGROUND, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WILL BE ASKING AS FAR AS THIS. CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME IDEA OF

AVAILABILITY WHEN YOU WOULD LIKE TO MEET? >> YOU KNOW, THAT'S TOUGH.

I DIDN'T BRING A CALENDAR WITH ME. YEAH, SO --

>> IT'S OKAY F YOU WANT TO E-MAIL ME NEXT WEEK, GIVE ME A ROUGH IDEA, THURSDAY AFTERNOONS OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE I WILL HAVE TO FIND A PLACE FOR YOU ALL TO MEET, UNLESS YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO COME HERE TO THIS BUILDING. I MEAN, TYPICALLY IT'S EITHER THE LIBRARY WHEN THE LIBRARIES ARE -- WE CAN FIND A ROOM HERE. ER

>> I WOULD BE WILLING TO COME TO THIS BUILDING. .

INGER THAT'S FINE WITH ME. >> IT'S JUST DOWN THE ROAD FOR ME.

>> OKAY, IF YOU WILL E-MAIL ME NEXT WEEK AND LET ME KNOW ROUGHLY YOUR SCHEDULES, WHEN

YOU WOULD BE AVAILABLE, I'LL SET THAT UP. >> OKAY.

ALRIGHT. NEXT ON THE LIST IS HISTORICAL MARKER HONORING MS. JACKSON.

>> I WAS CONTACTED BY MURAL SHAMMER, WITH THE HISTORIC MARKER INITIATIVE IN SOUTH FLORIDA, MIAMI, THEY HAVE AN INITIATIVE TO ERECT MARKERS IN EACH ONE OF THE COUNTIES REPRESENTING A WOMAN IN HISTORY THAT HAS SIGNIFICANT IMPACT IN THE WORLD HERE AND SO THEY HAVE CHOSEN MAUDE JACKSON FOR CLAY COUNTY AND THIS IS BEING BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION JUST -- I THINK I'VE MENTIONED IT BEFORE, I WANTED TO PRESENT THE TEXT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AND THIS WILL BE GOING TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR THEIR APPROVAL OF THE USE OF THE COUNTY SITE FOR THIS MARKER SINCE IT'S NOT A COUNTY PROPOSED MARKER.

SO, THAT'S IT. >> THIS MOTION IS UNDER STATE SANCTION, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO

IT? >> ANYONE CAN DO A MARKER, YES. >> WELL, ANYONE CAN DO A MARKER BUT I NEVER HEARD OF A LIVING INDIVIDUAL BEING THE SUJ IS OF A STATE MARKER.

>> THAT WAS SOMETHING THE STATE HAD A CONCERN WITH, TYPICALLY IT IS SOMEONE THAT HAS PASSED BUT IT CAN BE APPROACHED FROM THE STANDPOINT OF AN EVENT THAT OCCURRED, YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS AGO OR 50 YEARS AGO, SO THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WILL HAVE TO BE RESOLVED.

WE'RE NOT APPROVING THE MARKER TEXT, THAT WILL ALL GO THROUGH THE STATE, THIS IS A SEPARATE ENTITY THAT'S DOING THIS AND SO WE CAN REVIEW THE TEXT, IF YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO WHAT IS

HERE. ER >> OKAY, SO YOU'RE GOING TO

SEND US THE TEXT TO STARE AT FOR A WHILE. >> IT WAS PART OF THE AGENDA, I

CAN PASS DOWN BY COPY IF YOU'D LIKE. >> OH, GOOD.

DOES ANYONE ELSE NEED COPIES? >> I READ IT BUT I DON'T REMEMBER THAT.

>> SHE'S NOT AS OLD AS I THOUGHT SHE WAS, ALRIGHT. >> I DIDN'T SEE THAT.

>> YOU DIDN'T? I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU DID. >> I SAW THE MEETING BUT I

DON'T REMEMBER THIS ONE. >> WE WOULDN'T BE INVOLVED IN APPROVING THE T*EK OR ANYTHING,

JUST SIGNING OFF ON THE LOCATION? >> IF YOU HAD SOMETHING THAT YOU SAW WAS OBJECTIONABLE IN THE TEXT, IT'S PROBABLY VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT'S BEEN WRITTEN ALREADY REGARDING THE SCHOOL AND HER WORK AND THAT. BE*F BUT THEY DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH AND PROVIDE TOIT THE STATE. THEY WANT TO SEE IF THE COUNTY WOULD ALLOW IT TO GO ON THEIR SITE T PROPOSED SITE WOULD BE IF THE FIRE STATION WHERE THE

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ORIGINAL SCHOOL WAS. THAT WAS A SITE THAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT.

>> IT'S INTERESTING TO ME ANYWAY THAT IT SEEMS TO MAKE NO MENTION OF THE FAMOUS EPISODE WHERE SHE HELPED TAKE CARE OF DR. KING WHEN SHE STARTED THIS BIG DEMONSTRATION IN ST.

AUGUSTINE, THAT WAS A HEADLINE GRABBER AT THE TIME BUTTS -- BUT IT'S NOT MENTIONED AT ALL HERE AS FAR AS I CAN SEE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE NO PROBLEM THAT SHE'S DESERVING OF

RECOGNITION, IT'S JUST I NEVER HEARD THAT THIS KIND OF -- >> DO YOU HAVE ANY NEWS ARTICLES OR ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN THINK OF THAT WOULD DOCUMENT THAT EVENT?

>> WELL, YES. I MEAN, I KNOW MAUDE HERSELF HAD LOTS OF CLIPPINGS, I HAVE SEEN THEM, BUT IT DIDN'T OCCUR TO ME -- MAYBE AT THE COUNTY MSEUM WE'VE GOT SOME STUFF ON

THAT. >> ALRIGHT, I'LL MAKE THAT SUGGESTION THAT THEY RESEARCH

THAT TOPIC. >> THAT WAS LIKE A MAJOR THING BECAUSE THAT WAS A BIG MILESTONE IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT LEGAL FOR THEM TO STAY AT

CERTAIN HOTELS. >> O*J, AISLE BRING THAT UP AND HOPEFULLY THEY CAN LOOK INTO IT

AND AMEND THEIR TEXT. >> IT *F DOES MAUDE JACKSON HERSELF HAVE THE ABILITY TO

REVIEW THIS BEFORE IT? >> I GAVE THEM HER SON'S CONTACT INFORMATION AND I KNOW MCER URAL HAS SPOKEN WITH THE SON'S WIFE. I WOULD HOPE THEY WOULD OFFER

THAT OPPORTUNITY. >> ANY ACTION WE NEED TO TAKE AS A BOARD TONIGHT OR WAS THAT

JUST INFORMATIONAL? >> INFORMATIONAL. >>SO, THEY CAN CARRY ON

WITHOUT US IN OTHER WORDS? >> YES. >> EVEN THOUGH WE'RE THE COUNTY -- ONE OF THE COUNTIES THAT'S SUPPOSED TO DO SOMETHING FOR SOME WORTHY PERSON.

>>.IF YOU WOULD LIKE, I CAN ASK THEM TO PRESENT THEIR FINAL TEXT BACK TO O YOU.

THIS WAS PROBABLY A PRELIMINARY IF THEY'VE GOT A FINAL TEXT, I CAN HAVE THEM SEND IT BACK.

>> THE WHOLE THING IS A LITTLE ODD TO ME. >> IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN FOR

THE COLORED SCHOOL, OTHER GROUPS CAME IN -- >> I DIDN'T LIKE THAT EITHER

BUT THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT THAT. >> AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, THE PROCESS FROM THE STATE IS ANYBODY -- ANY PRIVATE CITIZEN IF THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION COULD PROPOSE A MARKER. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME THROUGH A LOCAL HISTORICAL BOARD, AM I

CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> SO, YEAH, IT'S JUST A LITTLE

UNUSUAL, IN THE PAST -- >> THAT'S BECAUSE I THINK MO OF TIME PEOPLE LOOK TOWARDS THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO PAY FOR IT BECAUSE THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS IS A LOT OF MONEY TO --

>> SO, THIS WILL COME FROM SOME OTHER POCKET? >> YES, WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR IT.

THEY'LL BE RAISING MONEY AND HAVING A PRIVATE DONOR FROM THE INFORMATION PACKET I READ

ONLINE. >> WELL, THAT'S VERY GOOD. SO, IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD AT LEAST GET SOME INPUT INTO THE FINAL TEXT WHICH SHOULD INCLUDE SOMETHING ABOUT THAT PART OF HER CAREER WHICH WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING AND PUBLICLY REPORTED PARTS, YOU KNOW. 1942. I ALWAYS THOUGHT SHE WAS IN HER 90'S BY NOW. ALRIGHT. WE'LL MOVER ON, WE HAVE NO CERTIFICATES OF APPROVAL. STILL SEEING NOBODY HAS SHOWN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WE'LL GO ON TO STAFF COMMENTS. >> I HAVE NO COMMENTS. >> OKAY, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND

[Board Member's Comments]

GO TO BOARD COMMENTS AND WE WILL START DOWN HERE WITH BARBARA AND WORK OUR WAY

AROUND. >> OKAY. MAYBE THIS IS A TOUCHY SUBJECT, MAYBE NOT. I WAS CALLED TO FIND OUT IF I WAS GOING TO BE HERE AND IF WE

DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM, BETH WAS GOING TO CANCEL THE MEETING. >> RIGHT.

>> THE PROBLEM WITH THAT AND I WROTE A LETTER TO HER AND I'LL PASS THE COPIES TO HER, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK TO EACH OTHER REGARDING ANY OF THIS BUSINESS UNLESS WE'RE IN THIS ROOM, SO EVERYONE KNOWS IF YOU DON'T HAVE QUORUM, YOU CAN'T VOTE ON ANYTHING AND HAVE IT BE LEGIT, HOWEVER, THIS IS OUR ONLY OPPORTUNITY FOR A WHOLE MOTH TO DISCUSS WHAT'S

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IMPORTANT TO US. SO, IT SHOULD NEVER BE CANCELLED, FOR ONE THING, IF THE MISSING PEOPLE SHOWED UP BECAUSE THEY WERE GOIPG TO GO TO THE BOARD MEETING TONIGHT, WE CAN'T HAVE OUR DOOR SHUT JUST BECAUSE THERE'S TWO PEOPLE HERE, SO I DO NOT BELIEVE AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING EVER WRITTEN DOWN THAT YOU CANCEL A MEETING IF YOU DON'T HAVE QUORUM AHEAD OF TIME. I THOUGHT THAT SHOULD BE STATED THAT THAT SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.

WHOEVER THINKS IT SHOULD BE ALLOWED, I DOUBT THAT HAPPENS WITH ANY OTHER BOARD.

I KNOW THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DON'T CANCEL IT OR THERE'S SOME COMMISSIONERS MEETINGS MISSING, SO THAT TO ME WAS WRONG, IT WAS INTRUSIVE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE DONE IT BEFORE BECAUSE I'M RELATIVELY NEW BUT YOU DON'T CANCEL BOARD MEETINGS THAT ARE OB LAO*IN, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAPPEN. NOW, IF YOU SAY YOU WANT TO CANCEL IT BASED ON THERE'S A HURRICANE COMING OR WHATEVER, I MEAN, THERE COULD BE MAJOR ACCIDENTS ON THE ROAD AND NOBODY CAN COME HERE, OTHER THAN THAT, NO, I DON'T KNOW IF

ANYONE AGREES WITH ME ON THAT. >> I DO REMEMBER THE SUBJECT CAME UP BEFORE WHEN WE -- MANY THE DAYS WHEN WE WERE STILL MEETING AT THE OLD COURTHOUSE AND CAROLYN MORGAN WAS OUR COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE AND I MADE THE SAME POINT, I SAID JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM AND CAN'T VOTE ON BUSINESS DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT WHAT HAS COME UP AND THAT IT NEEDS TO BE GIVEN SOME ATTENTION BECAUSE THEN IT GETS INTO THE MINUTES AND PEOPLE COULD SEE IT AND SO FORTH. SO I DO SUPPORT THAT POINT THAT NOT HAVING A QUORUM SHOULD NOT PER SE BE A REASON NOT TO MEET. JUST AS LONG AS WE ALL KNOW WE CAN'T VOTE ON ANYTHING.

OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? >> IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO -- I WROTE THIS ISSUE TO BETH, BUT JUST -- AND I TRIED TO FIND THE OTHER PEOPLE.

I FOUND SOME BASED ON WHAT THE MEMBERS WERE, I TRIED -- THE PERSON I TRIED TO SHARE IT WITH WAS GERRY, IT SAID NOT FOUNDS, SOTHE ONLY PEOPLE WE CAN SEND ANYTHING TO FROM OUTLOOK AT LEAST, IT'S NEW TO ME, I HAVE USED COMPUTERS ALMOST MY WHOLE LIFE OF THE COMPUTERS, BUT TO ME IT'S AWKWARD AND/OR RESTRICTIVE SO I'M NOT TOO SURE, DID ANYONE GET SOMETHING THAT I SENT TO THEM? BECAUSE IT'S NOT ANY NAME IN THERE, SUPPOSEDLY THIS WENT OUT TO NUMBER 10HPB, MEMBER 8HPB, NUMBER 6HPB, DISTRICT 3HPB, DISTRICT 4HPB.

>> THE WAY THAT WORKS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE -- WHERE IT SAYS THE PRESERVATION BOARD ON THE WEBSITE, IT WILL TELL YOU WHO ALL THE MEMBER ARES AND WHAT DISTRICT THEY'RE WITH SO THAT

WAY YOU CAN MATCH IT UP TO WHAT THEIR E-MAIL IS. >> WELL, THESE WERE E-MAILS THAT WERE IN OUTLOOK AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT AREN'T SUPPOSED TO USE GOING IN, I AM NUMBER 11HPB, AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS PART OF THE -- BEING ANONYMOUS TO THE PUBLIC, BUT

DID ANYONE GET AN E-MAIL FROM ME LAST NIGHT? >> YES, BECAUSE YOU COPIED ALL

OF US. >> RIGHT, WELL I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS ALL OF YOU BECAUSE I COULDN'T TELL WHO WAS WHO ON THERE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S ANOTHER WAY BUT IT DOES IT HAVE MY NAME AND THEN MY CODE NAME OR WHAT YOU WERE ALINING ABOUT, THE SITE TO GO SEE WHO'S ON THE

BOARD? >> WHEN YOU WERE ON THE GOVERNMENT PAGE AND YOU GO UNDER PRESERVATION BOARD, IT WILL TELL YOUL ALL THE BOARD MEMBER AND IS THEIR NAMES AND WHAT DISTRICT OR WHATEVER THEY'RE UNDER, SO THAT WAY YOU CAN KIND OF FIGURE OUT BECAUSE SHAWN HAD ASKED ME FOR SOME INFORMATION AND I WAS ABLE TO FIND HIS -- DO HIS E-MAIL BASED

ON WHAT HIS BOARD POSITION WAS. >> OKAY, I'M ALSO KIND OF CONCERNED BECAUSE I WENT THROUGH -- ANOTHER ISSUE WHEN YOU PASSED AROUND THIS THING ABOUT HER BIOGRAPHY, I WENT IN THERE AND INTO THE AGENDA AND JUST AFTER SAYING THAT IT WAS ON THERE, I WENT BACK IN, DOWNLOAD IT, I READ THROUGH IT BRIEFLY OF COURSE, I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THERE, SO EITHER -- BECAUSE

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THEY'VE GOT TWO, AGENDA ONLINE AND AGENDA PDF, SO YOP WHICH ONE DID -- .

THESER ONLINE ONE IS THE ONE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO USE BECAUSE IT WILL DOWNLOAD THE WHOLE

THING. ER >> WELL, THE DOWNLOAD DID ALL OF IT TOO BUT I DIDN'T SEE THAT PARAGRAPH IN THERE IN OTHER WORDS.

>> YEAH, IT WAS IN THERE UNDER -- IF YOU WENT UNDER THE THE HISTORIC NUMBER 2, HISTORICAL MARKER HONORING MS. JACKSON, THERE'S THREE OTHER LINKS UNDER THERE AND YOU HAVE TO CLICK ON

EACH ONE. >> OKAY, I'LL LOOK FOR THAT. >> TLA'S THE -- THAT'S THE WAY

I DID IT WHEN I WAS READING IT THIS AFTERNOON. >> IF I SEE A LINK, I HAVE TO

DO THAT, OKAY. I'LL LOOK FOR IT NEXT TIME. >> ALRIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? GERRY? >> YEAH.

I JUST REMARK IN PASSING THAT THIS DIFFICULTY -- INCREASING DIFFICULTIES OF ACCESS TO THESE SYSTEMS, THEY'RE MORE AND MORE COMPLICATED AND I THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH WHY WE ALMOST SEE NOBODY SHOWING UP HERE BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY HAVE SOME DIFFICULTIES TOO, THE MORE E WILL BE RATE *F RAT -- ELABORATE WE MAKE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ACCESSING INFORMATION, SO THAT'S ONE THING. AND IT MIGHT EVEN ACCOUNT FOR THE FACT WE HAVE ENTHUSIASTIC NEW MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD WHO RAPIDLY DISAPPEAR WITHOUT MORE THAN A COUPLE OF MEETINGS UNDER THEIR BELT. SO, I WOULD HOPE THAT THE COUNTY COULD RETHINK HOW TO SIMPLIFY COMMUNICATIONS WITHIN THIS SYSTEM OF THEIRS.

>> OKAY. >> JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'LL SAY THAT.

OKAY. I HEARD RECENTLY FROM TOM PARAM WHO SAYS HE'S CLEAR TO DO RESEARCH ON THE ACTUAL SITE OF FORT NUMBER 11, SHE HAS SOME ARTIFACTS HE IS THINKING OF DONATING I THINK TO THE COUNTY MUSEUM BUT WHETHER HE'S SEEN IT, LOOKED AROUND THAT SITE FURTHER OR NOT, AS OF PRESS TIME TONIGHT, I DON'T KNOW. NOW I'M JUST A LITTLE CURIOUS, MAYBE YOU CAN TELL ME, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, BOTH THE FORT HILAMEN AND FORT SAN FRANCISCO

DEPUPO MARKERS SEEM TO HAVE DISAPPEARED THERE THE MOMENT. >> NO, THE ONE THAT WAS THERE

AS OF A MONTH AGO. >> AS OF WHEN? >> A MONTH AGO, I CHECKED IT IN

FEBRUARY. >> WELL, IF IT IS, I GUESS IT'S NOT WHERE IT USED TO BE.

I GO BY THERE FREQUENTLY ON THE WAY TO ST. AUGUSTINE, SO IF IT'S THERE, THEN IT WOULD BE GREAT. I MEAN, IT WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME IF IT WAS TEMPORARILY REMOVED BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE WORK THAT'S GOING ON, THE NEW INTERSTATE NEARBY BUT I WOULD

JUST LIKE TO MAKE SURE IT ISN'T LOST SOMEWHERE. >> IT WAS THERE BECAUSE I

CHECKED IT LIKE I SAID EARLIER THIS YEAR. >> OCTOBER.

>> WAS IT OCTOBER? >> TIME IS FLYING. OCTOBER 9, YOU SENT A MESSAGE

TO ME. >> WELL, I MEAN, I DID SEE IT BACK ABOUT THAT FAR IN TIME,

BUT I DON'T SEE IT NOW. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SEE.

I MEAN, I'LL GO BY THERE NEXT WEEK AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT. >> OKAY, GOOD.

AND THEN ALSO THE FORT HILERMAN MARKER USED TO BE OFF THE TURN OFF MAIN STREET WHICH MAKES

SENSE BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT LATELY EITHER. >> IS THA* STHA* THE ONE THERE

BY THE BANK OFF OF BANDING? >> BLANDIG. ER

>> YES. >> IT'S NEXT TO THE WELLS FARGO, IS IT THAT ONE?

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>> YEAH, IT'S THE ONE THAT GOES -- IT KIND OF DOES THE Y. >> THAT'S THE MAIN FEATURE.

>> LAST TIME I SAW IT, IT WAS REAL LOW AND IT WAS LIKE THERE WAS LANDSCAPING AROUND IT.

>> YEAH, THE ONE I'M THINKING OF IS -- HAD LANDSCAPING AROUND IT.

>> AND I DID A DOUBLE TAKE BECAUSE I'M LIKE -- >> WELL, MAYBE THEY COVERED IT WITH THE LANDSCAPING BECAUSE I GO OVER THERE FOR DORSENT WORK. I GUESS I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU

OR IF YOU COULD -- >> I'LL CHECK ON THAT. >> SHE COULD TELL US

SOMETHING. >> GOOD. OKAY.

THERE ARE OTHER MATTERS BUT I THINK THAT'S MAINLY IT FOR ME. >> ALRIGHT.

NEXT? >> I HAVE NONE. >> DURING OUR LAST MEET, BETH HAD ASKED ME TO BRAINSTORM SOME PARESES OF RECOGNITION F WE DO A CERTIFICATE, SO WE CAN HONOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAVE DONE WORK WITH HISTORY HERE IN CLAY COUNTY.

SO, I SUBMITTED THIS TO HER, SHE ASKED ME TO COME UP WITH AREAS THAT WE MIGHT GIVE RECOGNITION IN, THE AREAS I CAME UP WITH IS RESEARCHING, WRITING AND EDUCATING ABOUT CLAY COUNTY HISTORY, IDENTIFYING, RECOGNIZING AND EVALUATING HISTORICAL SITES IN CLAY COUNTY, PRESERVING, RESTORING AND STEWARDING HISTORICAL SITES IN CLAY COUNTY.

SO, I DON'T KNOW IF OTHERS WANT TO GIVE ME INPUT OR HOW WE MIGHT WANT TO PROCEED FROM HERE, THAT WAS MY BEST SHOT AT THINKING THIS THROUGH THE FIRST TIME HERE.

>> OKAY. >> I JUST WONDERED IF ANYBODY HAD ANY COMMENTS ON THOSE.

IF YOU DON'T, I'LL JUST PASS THESE ON TO OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM FOR THEIR USE IN CREATING

CERTIFICATES. >> SO, WHAT SORT OF -- I SUPPOSE THERE OUGHT TO BE SOME CERTAIN WRITE-UP ABOUT IT, WHOEVER THE PROPOSED CANDIDATES ARE, RIGHT.

>> YEAH, PRESUMABLY I WOULD ASSUME YOU ALL WOULD BE THE ONES THAT WOULD CHOOSE A CANDIDATE FOR ONE OF THESE CERTIFICATES AND OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM WOULD THEN CREATE IT OR THEY'LL GIVE ME A FORMAT FOR A BLANK ONE AND THEN I CAN FILL IN THE NAME OR

WHATEVER AND THEN YOU CAN PRESENT IT. >> SO, THE QUESTION IS, IS THERE A PRESCRIBED MINIMUM FORMAT FOR THIS KIND OF THING TO SUGGEST PEOPLE FOR IT,

CANDIDATES? >> I DON'T THINK WE'VE ESTABLISHED THAT.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE UP TO YOU. ER >> A STATE MARKER, FOR

EXAMPLE, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS YOU CHECK OFF OR -- >> JUST TO GIVE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES, LIKE RICHARD KANUFF, FORMER FIRE CHIEF OF CLAY COUNTY WAS HELPFUL WITH PLEASANT POINT AND WENT OUT OF HIS WAY, ALSO CHARLIE SOME, THE LANDOWNER AROUND PLEASANT POINT WHO DONATED A LOT OF MONEY AND TIME TO HELPING US, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT CRITERIA WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT BUT THAT'S A REAL WORLD EXAMPLE OF THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT I WAS THINKING OF

THAT WOULD BE NICE TO RECOGNIZE. >> AND THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM IS INTERESTED IN HAVING SOME CONTENT, SO THEY WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO FEATURE STORIES OR ARTICLES OR WHATEVER, SO TO

CARRY THAT ON. >> IS THERE A LILT ON THE NUMBER OF NOM MAOE-- NOMINEE

THAT IS ARE ALLOWED FOR THIS? >> THIS IS A PROCESS YOU ALL ARE DOING, SO YOU DEVELOP IT.

>> I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE KIND OF AN ONGOING THING, JUST LIKE WITH TOM AND FORT NUMBER 11, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HONOR HIM WITH A CERTIFICATE FOR ALL OF HIS RESEARCH AND HELP. THAT WOULD BE ONE. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I'M JUST SAYING THAT IF THEY CAN ATTRIBUTE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TYPE AND EFFORT TOWARDS A HISTORICAL PROJECT, WHETHER IT BE HISTORICAL CEMETERIES OR HELP RESEARCHING

WHERE A FORT LOCATION IS, IT'S ALL LEG WORK THAT IS DONE. >> WELL, I CAN SEE THERE ARE VARIOUS SLICE AND DICE CATEGORIES AVAILABLE. MY QUESTION WAS, IS THERE A LIMIT ON HOW MANY PEOPLE WE COULD NOMINATE FOR THEIR GOOD WORK AT ANY GIVEN TIME?

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS SO MUCH OF A NOMINATION PROCESS AS IT IS MAYBE JUST A RECOGNIZING,

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BUT AGAIN THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I HAVE COME UP WITH SO I REALLY WANT YOU ALL TO DECIDE WHAT THIS IS. I SORT OF THOUGHT IT WAS ALOPING THE LINES OF WHAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DOES WHEN THEY RECOGNIZE SOMEONE THAT'S DONE SOMETHING

AND THEY MIGHT HAVE ONE OR TWO AT A MEETING. >> STEVE HERE AND KATHY ARE

CERTAINLY DESERVING OF A LOT OF PRAISE FOR THEIR WORK. >> WELL, I THINK MAYBE --

>> WE RECOGNIZE PEOPLE OUTSIDER OF THIS BOARD, HAD THIS WOULD BE A WAY TO INTERACT MORE WITH THE PUBLIC WHICH YOU CAN SEE WE NEED TO DO I THINK DURING THE BOARD MEETING.

I'M SORRY. >> I'M SORRY TOO, LIKE KATHY HAD A BOY SCOUT THAT OBVIOUSLY THAT NEWS ARTICLE AS WELL, BUT THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING WHERE YOU MIGHT WANT TO RECOGNIZE SOMEONE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT'S TAKING AN INTEREST AND ALSO HELP TO GROW

MORE INTEREST IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACTIVITIES. >> YES.

>> CAN WE PUT THIS ON FOR NEXT MONTH'S MEETING WHILE WE HAVE A CHANCE TO THINK ABOUT IT AND

WRITE SOMETHING UP AND RATHER THAN IMMEDIATELY PASS IT ON. >> YEAH.

>> WE'LL TABLE THAT FOR THE NEXT MEETING AND HAVE EVERYBODY COME BACK WITH ANY IDEAS ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROCESS. ALRIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.