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>> ALRIGHT, I'M CALLING THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION BOARD TO ORDER.
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AND THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES. I WILL ENTERTAIN APPROVAL OFMINUTES FROM THE JANUARY 8 -- >> THE ONLY THING I SAW IN THERE WAS THE MISSPELLING OF
GARNER LEIGE. I'M SORRY. >> YEAH, SO UNDER AREA
DISCUSSION, IT SAYS GARNER LEASH IS LIGE IS THE ONLY THING. >> OKAY, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION SUBJECTING TO THAT -- SUBJECT TO THAT CHANGE THAT THE MEETINGS FROM THE JANUARY 8
MEETING BE APPROVED. >> I GUESS I'LL MAKE THAT -- I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE
THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING. >> EEL SECOND.
ER >> WE HAVE A MROETION AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? SO CARRIED.
OKAY, PUBLIC COMMENTS, SEEING AS THERE'S NOBODY IN THE AUDIENCE, WE'LL GO AHEAD TO OLD
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BUSINESS AND WE WILL GO TO CEMETERY WORK UPDATE. >> OKAY, SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS SARTER, JASON CLARK WHO WORKS FOR THE COUNTY, HE IS IN CHARGE OF THE KEEP CLAY BEAUTIFUL WORK, HE'S COORDINATING A NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUP AT MEADOW BROOK TERRACE ON FEBRUARY 21.
IT WILL ALSO INCLUDE DEBRIS REMOVAL AT SAUDER CEMETERY, I MET WITH HIS THIS MORNING AND THEY ARE PUTTING A DUMP TRAILER IN THE CEMETERY AS WELL AS ONE WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION FOR TRASH AND WE ALSO WENT OUT THERE AND COMPLETED A REPAIR ON A CRADLE GRAVE IN SAUDER.
IN MCHE -- MCENRI, IT'S BEEN COMPLETED, THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN CLAY TODAY ON JANUARY 15 AOUT THAT. DOUG WILFORD WHO'S RELATED TO MOST OF THE BURIALS IN MCHENRY, HE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE CEMETERY, SO I INTRODUCED HIM TO THE CEMETERY AND HE WAS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. WE STARTED DOING SOME GRAVESTONE CLEANING AND REPAIRS ON JANUARY 25. WE'RE GOING TO RETURN A COUPLE OF TIMES IN FEBRUARY TO CONTINUE THE STONE WORK. INTERESTING THING WHEN I WAS DOING RESEARCH OF THAT AREA.
AN OLD MAP FROM 1885 OF CLAY COUNTY CAUSE -- CALLS THAT AREA WILFORD AND I'M ASSUMING BECAUSE HE OWNED OVER 600 ACHE NECESSARIES THAT AREA FROM 1880'S TO ABOUT 1908, BUT IN 1917, IT WAS CHANGED TO BE CALLED DR. ZINLET, SO IT WAS CALLED WILFORD SKH MAKES SENSE BECAUSE HIS FAMILY OWNED ALL THAT PROPERTY THERE. JUST THE OTHER DAY, WE WERE ABLE TO DO SOME SITE VISITS ON THE CEMETERIES IN CAMP LANDING. I WORKED WITH THE GENTLEMAN THERE, HE WAS VERY, VERY NICE AND TOOK US TO OLD BULA, CONWAY, LEE, THE POW AND BLUE POND CEMETERIES. WE COULD NOT DO A SITE VISIT AT OAK GROVE BECAUSE THEY WERE SHOOTING NEAR THERE, SO WE'LL PLAN FOR THAT SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE.
THERE IS ON THE GIS MAP, THERE IS ONE THAT SHOWS IT TO BE A CEMETERY THAT IS SOUTH OF BLUE POND AND WEST OF LEE AND WE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, SO WHEN WE WERE OUT THERE, WE WENT, YOU KNOW, TOWARDS THE DIRECTION AND WE DISCOVERED WHAT APPEARED TO BE A BURIAL DEPRESSION AT THAT EXACT SAME MARKER BUT THERE'S NO MARKER THERE BUT IT
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CERTAINLY LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A SINGLE BURIAL WHICH IS KIND OF WEIRD.SO, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT TO CALL IT A CEMETERY, BUT IT APPEARS TO BE A BURIAL THERE.
ALSO JUST AS A REMINDER THAT -- OF THE CRIB CONFERENCE THAT'S COMING UP ON FEBRUARY 26 AND 27, STEVE AND I WILL BE PRESENT HEARING AND WE'LL HAVE MORE UPDATES TAT -- AT THE MARCH
BOARD MEETING. >> MINE SHOULD BE PRETTY BRIEF. MINE SHOULD BE PRETTY BRIEF.
KATHY PRESENTED AT THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, I WANT TO MENTION THAT FOR OUR LAST GENERAL MEETING ABOUT THE CEMETERIES IN CLAY COUNTY. I FOLLOWED UP, BETH, ON YOUR SUGGESTION TO TALK TO SUPERIOR LAWN MAINTENANCE AND AS IT TURNS OUT, JASON THERE IS THE GUY THAT DOES ALL THE COUNTY LAWN WORK SO HE'S GOING TO GIVE ME A BID FOR PLEASANT POINT, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PLANT TO INCORPORATE PLEASANT WORK INTO THEIR WORK OF TAKING CARE OF ALL THE COUNTY'S CEMETERIES AND LAWN WORK AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD PUT IN THE BID IF WE WERE TO HAVE THE COUNTY WRITER WRITE A GRANT FOR US SO, THAT'S PLAN BID.
WE HAVE FPAN COMING, MURRAY, THE STATE ARCHAEOLOGIST OF THIS AREA FROM CLA XW, GER COLLEGE WILL DO A RADAR SURVEY AT PLEASANT POINT TOMORROW MORNING, AND THAT'S IT FROM MY
NEXT UP IS THE HISTORICAL MARKER PROGRESS, AND I'M GOING TO TAKE IT A BIT OUT OF ORDER AND GO AHEAD WITH THE BRANAN FIELD MARKER, WE GOT THAT IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND WE HAVE IT AT THE CLAY COUNTY SIGN SHOP. WE GOT IT IN STORAGE AFTER DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNTY MANAGEMENT, IT WAS DECIDED WE WOULD HOLD THE MARKER IN STORAGE UNTIL COMPLETION OF THE LIBRARY IN OAKLEY AND THEN INSTALL THE MARKER AFTER CONSTRUCTION, SO THERE'S NO CHANCE OF IT GETTING DAMAGED OR MESSED UP BY THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE LIBRARY.
>> ANY IDEA WHEN THE LIBRARY'S EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED? >> SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 18 MONTHS TO TWO YEARS, SOMEWHERE IN THAT TIMEFRAME. UNLESS BETH HAS A DIFFERENT --
>> NO, I DON'T HAVE FURTHER INFORMATION ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE LIBRARY, BUT I HADN'T HEARD THAT WE WERE GOING TO KEEP IT STORED SO THAT PROBABLY IS THE PLAN SINCE THEY ARE
STILL DESIGNING THE LIBRARY. >> YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD, SO WHEN I ASKED UPPER
MANAGEMENT. >> OKAY. >> SO, THIS MARKER THAT WAS
CLEARED, IS THIS A STATE MARKER? >> STATE MARKER. >> GOOD.
>> YOU NEED TO SPEAK UP INTO THE MICROPHONE, JERRY. >> OH, SORRY.
>> SO, IT'S JUST WAITING TO BE -- >> YEAH, IT WAS --
>> PHYSICALLY THERE. >> IT'S PHYSICALLY THERE. WE HAVE THE MARKER.
I TOOK IT OUT LONG ENOUGH TO INSPECT IT FOR ANY SHIPPING DAMAGE AND TOOK PICTURES AND SENT IT TO BETH AND THEN WE -- ONCE WE FOUND OUT THAT IT WASN'T GOING TO GO UP RIGHT AWAY, WE WENT AHEAD AND PACKED IT ALL BACK UP AND PUT IT IN STORAGE.
>> VERY GOOD. >> AND SO NOW WE'RE ON TO FORT 11, AND JERRY, I COULD NOT FIND
MY NOTES FROM FORT 11. >> OKAY, SO THIS REFERENCED PRINTED BOOK, WHATEVE IT WAS,
IT'S A MYSTERY ITEM NOW, RIGHT? >> NO, I THINK -- IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, IT WAS THE ONE THAT
DEIDRE GRAVER -- GAVE US PR THE KEYSTONE. >> I NEVER SAW IT, I TALKED TO
HER BUT I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT ASKING HER ABOUT THAT. >> YEAH, BECAUSE SHE HAD IT AND
IT WAS THE KEYSTONE HERITAGE BOOK. >> I SUPPOSE IF SHE KNOWS WHAT
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THE TITLE AND DATE IS, THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO CITE IT, SOME PLACE OR OTHER.>> AND OTHER THAN THAT -- >> SO, I HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT. I SAW DEIDRE AT THE HISTORIC ROUNDTABLE IN JANUARY AND SHE SAID THAT SHE HAD SENT YOU A PHOTO OF HER STANDING THERE WITH THE COORDINATES FOR THE SIGN. YEAH, I HAVE --
>> SO SHE'S STANDING BEHIND IT, RIGHT. >> YEAH, I HAVE THE PICTURE OF
HER STANDING WITH THE COORDINATES. >> SHE SAID IF YOU DON'T FIND
IT, SHE CAN SEND IT AGAIN. >> I THINK I FOUND IT DURING THE MEETING LAST TIME TOO.
>> OKAY. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> ARE YOU DONE, BILL?
>> YEAH, I'M -- >> AS TO THE APPLICATION FOR THE FORT, I WAS SURPRISED AT THE LAST MEETING TO LEARN AS FOR BETH, YOU HAVEN'T RECEIVED AN APPLICATION ITSELF YET, IS
THAT RIGHT? >> NO, BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE WORKING ON IT.
>> RIGHT, SO MY ROLE AS I UNDERSTOOD IT AT THE BEGINNING WAS TO IMPROVE AND CORRECT THE TEXT OF THE PROPOSED MARKER AND THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WAS MY PIECE BUT LATELY WITH THE DEPARTURE OF DEIDRE, IT'S BECOME MORE IN MY DOMAIN, SO I CLLED DEIDRE ABOUT IT A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO AND SHE SAID, WELL, SHE DIDN'T INITIATE IT WHICH SURPRISED ME.
I THOUGHT SHE HAD. SHE SAID TOM PARHAM WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SUBMITTING IT, SO THEN I CALLED TOM PARHAM OR I LEFT HIM A MESSAGE AND HE SENT ME AN EXTENDED MESSAGE THAT HE'S STILL WRINGING ON IT DRK WORKING ON IT BECAUSE HE'S CLOSING IN ON THE ACTUAL SUPPOSED LOCATION OF THE FORT ITSELF WHICH IS NOT EXACTLY WHERE THE MARKER WILL GO BECAUSE OF ALL THE URBAN DEVELOPMENT, BUT HE SAID HEALTH ISSUES, HE SAID FAMILY ISSUES, HE'S HAD WEATHER PROBLEMS, BUT HE BELIEVES HE STILL CAN GET MORE INFORMATION.
HE'S FOUND MORE ARTIFACTS RECENTLY, SO HE'S ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION.
SO, WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THAT, I GUESS IT COULD JUST STILL BE KIND OF HANGING UP
THERE UNTIL HE SUBMITS WHATEVER HE WANTS. >> THAT'S FINE, I HAVEN'T STARTED THE APPLICATION, I DON'T START THE ONLINE APPLICATION UNTIL I HAVE ALL
THE MATERIALS IN PLACE. >> RIGHT, RIGHT. NOW I UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU DON'T
HAVE IT, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY KNEW THAT. >> NOW LET ME ASK THE BOARD THIS WITH THIS NEW INFORMATION, DO WE WANT TO [INAUDIBLE] UNTIL SUCH TIME WE GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE EXACT LOCATION BECAUSE THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO INCLUDE INTO THE
MARKER ITSELF? >> TRUE, TRUE. ON THE OTHER HAND, SINCE THINGS TAKE SO LONG TO GET THROUGH THE MIDDLE HERE, BUT YES, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA AND I WOULDN'T PERSONALLY OBJECT TO IT. IT WOULD BE GOOD IF THERE WAS ANOTHER PIECE OF SOLID INFORMATION THAT TOM COULD DEVELOP BUT IT'S BEEN -- YEAH, IT'S BEEN QUITE A WHILE, MAYBE WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND TABLE IT.
>> OKAY. AND SO THE THEN YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO NOT PUT IT ON THE AGENDA EVERY MOTHER FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION OR I JUST NEED SOME DIRECTION.
>> YEAH, IT'S BEEN SO HARD TO GET A CONCLUSIVE PROGRESS ON THIS SO FAR, SO, YEAH, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER IF WE DON'T HAVE TO REPORT ON IT EVERY MONTH NA NOTHING QUITE GETS
DONE. >> SORRY, I'M SITTING BACK FROM HERE.
HOW CAN YOU TELL THAT IT CAN'T HEAR ME? >> THEY FLASH THE RED LIGHT IN
THE BACK. >> OH, I SHOULD LOOK AT NOT MY COLLEAGUES BUT AT THAT THING, OKAY. ALRIGHT. YEAH, I DON'T OBJECT TO EITHER
WAY. >> OR WE CAN EVEN JUST GO TO A QUARTERLY UPDATE ON IT.
>> THAT'S GOOD, THAT SOUNDS GOOD, YEAH. >> WELL, IF IF YOU'LL -- SO, IF
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YOU'LL LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU WANT ME TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, I WILL BE HAPPY TO PUTIT ON THE AGENDA. >> I CAN DO THAT FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS BECAUSE THEN SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO BE CHAIRMAN BECAUSE I'VE RAN MY TWO YEAR TERM.
SO, SINCE THAT IS DONE, WE'RE ON TO NEW BUSINESS. UNDER OLD BUSINESS, I DO WANT
TO BRING UP THE MILBURG COUNTY SIGN OR MARKER. >> OH, GOOD.
>> DO WE HAVE ANY UPDATE -- >> THE THOMPSON-CHALKER ONE OR WHICH ONE?
>> MIDDLE BERG MUSEUM? JT I'M STILL WORKING ON THAT ONE, YES, AND AS FAR AS THE SIGN FOR THE ACTUAL PLACE THERE, RUTH WAS OKAY WITH THAT LOCATION, SO THAT WOULD WORK.
>> OKAY, SO I JUST NEED TO GET WITH -- >> WE HAVE TO DETERMINE THE
FUNDING OF IT I GUESS, YEAH. >> SO, YOU GOT THE FORM FROM HER?
>> NO, NO, BUT I HAVE THE TEXT FROM HER, SO AT THIS POINT, I THINK WE CAN JUST GO AHEAD WITH
IT BECAUSE WE KNOW HER INTENT. >> BECAUSE IT'S OWNED BY THE COUNTY?
>> CORRECT. >> THIS IS THE COUNTY SIGN, RIGHT?
>> YES, IT'S THE COUNTY. >> ALRIGHT, NOW THE NEXT ONE IS UNDER NEW BUSINESS WHICH IS THE
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THOMPSON-CHALKER DOCKS SIGN. >> I HAVE A A PHOTO FOR YOU. >> I TOOK THIS PICTURE BECAUSE IT IS UP ON MAIN STREET AND I CAN'T FIND ANY RECORD OF THE COUNTY MAKING OR MAINTAINING THIS SIGN. WE HAVE IN THE PAST GONE UP AND STRAIGHT .ED IT AND LOOPED IT BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING TO IT. I HAVE TOLD BETH TO REACH TOUT
THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY. >> AND THERE IS NONE, AND ACCORDING TO RUTH, I WAS DREDGED HER TO BE THE MIDDLE BERG HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND SHE SAID IT'S NO LONGER AN EXISTING GROUP. SHE DIDN'T KNOW THE ORIGIN OF THE SIGN OR ANY INFORMATION
ABOUT IT. >> OKAY. >> SO, WHAT'S THE CONCERN ABOUT
THE SIGN? >> WELL, NUMBER ONE, IT IS FADED, NEEDS TO BE -- IF IT'S GOING TO BE -- DOES THE BOARD WANT TO TRY TO INCORPORATE THIS SIGN INTO THE COUNTY MARKER SYSTEM? DO WE JUST WANT THE -- TO LEAVE IT ALONE AND JUST LET IT
T SIT THERE? >> WHERE IS IT AT? >> MAIN STREET, MIDDLE BERG, AS YOU GO DOWN MAIN STREET, YOU GO DOWN PAST THE IT IS AN THE INTERSECTION WITH PALM MEADOW.
>> I HAVE BEEN THERE SO MANY TIMES AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT. >> SO, I DON'T KNOW -- LIKE I SAID, IT'S ONE OF THE SIGNS THAT I SEE AND GET ASKED ABOUT, SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT
THE THOUGHT OF THE BOARD WAS. >> DOES RUTH HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT?
>> NO, SHE JUST DIDN'T KNOW THE ORIGIN OF IT. >> IS IT ON PUBLIC PROPERTY?
>> IT'S IN COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY ON LOOKS TO BE -- COULD BE PRIVATE PROPERTY.
>> BUT WHAT IS THE ISSUE WITH THE SIGN? IT LOOKS TO BE PRETTY CLEAR.
>> IT'S -- >> MAYBE IF YOU SAW IT CLOSER, THE LETTERS LOOK LIKE THEY'RE
RUNNING DOWN. >> IT'S A 20 YEAR-OLD SIGN. >> IS IT BENT?
>> THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, IT LOOSES -- LOOKS BENT. >> IT'S NOT IN GREAT SHAPE,
IT'S BEEN HIT. >> IF SOMEONE DID HIT OR THE CONSENSUS IS IT OUGHT TO BE REPLACED, WOULD WE THEN BE -- OR WHOEVER SPONSORS IT, COULD THEY ADD SOMETHING TO IT IF THEY FOUND MORE BACKGROUND. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW WHEN THE DOCKS WERE FIRST SET UP, IT SAYS IT WAS BURNED BUT THAT MEANS THEY WERE THERE UNTIL THEN.
>> I MEAN, IT WOULD BE -- I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE KIND OF AT THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD IF WE WERE GOING TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE THING, WE COULD DO RESEARCH ON IT AND TRY TO
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MAKE IT MORE IN LINE WITH OUR STANDARDS BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD WAS, I WAS GOING TO BRING IT UP AND SEE WHAT YOU ALL WANTED TO DO.>> IS THAT PROCESS DIFFERENT IF WE LEAVE IT THE SAME OR IF WE ADD, IS THAT A WHOLE NEW APPLICATION, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE, WHAT DOES REPLACING IT LOOK LIKE?
>> WE WOULD BE REPLACING IT WITH THE SAME TYPE OF SIGN WE WOULD BE PUTTING UP AT MIDDLE BERG DFRJT AND WE'D HAVE TO FILL OUT THE APPLICATION FOR IT, WE COULD DO IT --.
INGER WITHOUT, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE BECAUSE IT WOULD COME OUT OF YOUR BUDGET.
>> I SUSPECT THAT THE DOCKS WERE THERE AT LEAST SFAR -- AS FAR BACK AT THE SEMINOLE WAR BECAUSE THEY WERE SENBACKER SENDING BOATS UP AND DOWN THE CREEK TO SUPPLY TROOPS AND DELIVER TROOPS BUT WE'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THIS BECAUSE IT'S NOT MENTIONED ON THE SIGN YET.
>> AND LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I SAW IT, I KNOW IT'S A HISTORICAL SIGN BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHO PUT IT UP, I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'LL ENTERTAIN A A
MOTION -- >> HOW MUCH WAS THE COUNTY SIGN? THAT WASN'T VERY EXPENSIVE IF
I'M REMEMBERING IT RIGHT. >> A COUPLE OF HUNDRED DOLLARS. >> SPG LIKE THAT.
ER >> I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE IT WOULD BE STANDARD AND THEN LIKE JERRY SAID, HE, ME, ANYONE COULD TRY TO GET BETTER RESEARCH, THAT'S NOT THAT MUCH TEXT, WE COULD PUT A LOT MORE INFORMATION ON IT , AND IT WOULD BE NICE AND LEAVE THAT ONE UP, PUT THE OTHER ONE NEXT TO IT OR SOMETHING BECAUSE SOMEONE MIGHT
OWN IT, YOU KNOW. >> WELL, WE WOULDN'T -- I MEAN, I WOULD TRY TO FIND OUT BHO THE PROPERTY OWNER IS AND TALK TO THEM, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD LEAVE BOTH OF THEM UP.
>> REPLACE IT WITH A NEW ONE. >> YES. >> THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL IS TO
REPLACE IT WITH THE NEWER ONE. >> MAYBE SINCE YOU BROUGHT SOME AWARENESS TO THIS SIGN, MAYBE IF THERE'S ANYONE WATCHING THAT IS FAMILIAR WITH IT OR WE COULD CONTINUE TO ASK AROUND, MAYBE YOU NOT MAKE A DECISION ON IT BUT YOU COULD START RESEARCHING RIGHT NOW AND THEN I COULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA NEXT MONTH AND MAYBE WE'LL LEARN WHO OWNS IT AND HAVE MORE INFORMATION.
>> OKAY. I WILL TAKE ON TRYING TO CONTACT THAT PROPERTY OWNER THAT IT SITS ON, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO START WORKING ON TEXT AND -- WHAT?
>> SOMEBODY IS STARING AT YOU. WE KNOW YOU'RE GOOD AT WRITING SIGN TEXTS.
>> WELL, WE'LL SEE. I'M JUST SAYING IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO START RESEARCHING FOR
TEXTS. >> I WILL START BUT I WOULD BE PERFECTLY HAPPY IF MORE PEOPLE
GET INVOLVED. >> I CAN HELP YOU. >> YES, BECAUSE THE QUESTION THAT I LOOKED AT THE FLORIDA MASTER SITE THING THAT YOU SENT ME AND THERE IS A MARY CHALK
ERE HOUSE IN THAT AREA AS WELL SO MAYBE WE CAN COMBINE. >> YEAH, THE CHALKIER'S WERE WIDESPREAD WIDESPREAD, THEY WERE MEER CHANTS SO THEY PROBABLY HAD SOMETHING GOING ON
THERE AT THE CREEK AS WELL. >> ABSOLUTELY, OKAY. >> I CAN HELP YOU TOO, JERRY.
>> OKAY. >> >> THEN THAT ONE IS DONE.
THAT NEW BUSINESS IS DONE. UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON IT? OKAY. WE'LL GO TO OUR SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT AND STILL SEEING AS
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THERE'S NOBODY IN THE AUDIENCE, WE'LL GO ON TO STAFF COMMENTS. >> SO, THE ST. MARY'S CHURCH MARKER WILL BE HEARD BY THE COUNCIL LATER THIS MONTH SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS.
STILL WORKING ON THE MIDDLE BERG MUSEUM AS WE TALKED ABOUT. I'VE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE OTHER PARTY THAT SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR A MARKER FOR THE MIDDLE BERG COLORED SCHOOL AND I'VE SENT THE TEXT THAT MAUREEN DEVELOPED TO HIM AND I HAVE NOT CALLED BACK TO DISCUSS
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IT WITH THEM FURTHER BUT THE STATE HAS PUT IT ON HOLD AT THIS POINT, SO THEY'RE NOTGOING INTO PRODUCTION WITH THEIR MARKER. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.
YOU HAD SAID THAT SOMEONE ELSE SUBMITTED A THING FOR THE COLORED SCHOOL, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> YES, THAT'S CORRECT. THEY SUBMITTED ANOTHER MARKER TEXT.
>> SO, WHO IS THIS OTHER GROUP? >> I DON'T HAVE THE ORGANIZATION, IT'S A FRATERNITY THAT SUBMITTED AND THEY SUBMITTED IT AS A HERITAGE MUSEUM AND THE TEXT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT OBVIOUSLY THAN WHAT MAUREEN HAD RESEARCHED, SO, THEY WERE GOING TO DO A SINGLE SIDED MARKER, MAUREEN'S WAS A TWO SIDED MARKER HAS WAS A LITTLE MORE DETAILED.
SO, ANYWAY, I HOPE TO HAVE A FURTHER CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND SEE WHAT WE COULD DO.
MAYBE WE COULD TALK THROUGH WHICH MARKER COULD GO UP. I WAS CONTACTED BY AN ORGANIZATION, THE FLORIDA WOMEN'S HISTORICAL MARKER INITIATIVE THAT WAS WORKING TO HONOR A WOMAN IN EACH COUNTY OF THE STATE WITH A HISTORIC MARKER AND THEY HAVE SUGGESTED M JACKSON, I PUT THEM IN TOUCH WITH HER SON AND SO HOPEFULLY THEY WILL BE WORKING ON THAT.
WE HAVE TO GET SOME COUNTY APPROVAL FOR A A LOCATION AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
LET'S SEE. I WANTED TO ALSO MENTION LAST MONTH, WE TALKED ABOUT ATTENDANCE AND I BELIEVE, STEVE, MAYBE YOU REACHED OUT TO RANDY.
HE DID REACH OUT AND RESIGN AS WELL AS TERRY SO, WE KNOW LIFE GETS INS THE WAY SOMETIMES AND YOU CAN'T ALWAYS VOLUNTEER BUT WE APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT THEY BOTH GAVE TO THE COMMITTEE AND WE WISH THEM WELL AND WE'LL BE THINKING ABOUT THEM. LET'S SEE, I HAVE AN UPDATE, THE HISTORICAL -- THE MUSEUM, THE CEILING. IT WAS A FEMA PROJECT APPARENTLY AND THEY -- THIS WAS -- LET'S SEE, 1/29, SO IT WAS A WEEK AGO, THEY'RE WORKING TO GET THE CONTRACTOR SCHEDULED, SO THAT SHOULD BE UNDERWAY. AND LET'S SEE, SO HOPEFULLY THEY'LL GET THOSE REPAIRS DONE. AND I BELIEVE THAT IS ALL I HAVE.
THAT'S IT. >> OKAY. >> SORRY, ONE MORE.
I SENT YOU AN E-MAIL, I THINK IT WAS LAST NIGHT OR MAYBE THE NIGHT BEFORE WITH A LINK TO A FILE FOLDER THAT I PUT ALL SORTS OF FILES THAT I HAVE SENT YOU ALL, SUNSHINE REFRESHER, THE MASTER SITE FILE FOR CLAY COUNTY, THERE'S ALSO -- I FINALLY GOT TO IT, MELISSA, I SORTED THE FILE, GIS DID A MAP OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE -- FOR THOSE STRUCTURES THAT WERE BUILT IN 1976 ON BACK BECAUSE THOSE WOULD TECHNICALLY BE HISTORICAL POTENTIALLY, SO THERE'S A MAP AS WELL AS AN EXCEL FILE FOLDER AND I DID A LITTLE CLEANUP OF THE FOLDER BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T NEED THE 50 FIELDS, SO IT'S SHORTENED UP SO YOU CAN SEE THE YEAR BUILT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S THE FAR RIGHT COLUMN THE YEAR BUILT THA,'S WHAT IT'S SORTED ON.
THE PROPERTY APPRAISER HAS TWO DATE, THEY HAVE AN EFFECTIVE YEAR AND YEAR BUILT SO IT'S SORTED ON THE FAR RIGHT COLUMN, SO I PROVIDED THAT TO YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO START DOING RESEARCH ON OTHER PROPERTY THAT IS ARE IN THE COUNTY, IF YOU WANT TO CREATE MAST FILES, THAT'S UP TO YOU AS YOU DECIDE WHAT YOUR MISSION AND FOCUS IS ON THIS COMMITTEE, THAT'S WHAT I HAD FOLD THAT THERE WAS AN INTEREST IN DOING WAS RESEARCH.
SO, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WAS A TABLE OF THE MEETINGS AND THE DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTING AN ITEM FOR THE AGENDA, SO IF YOU WILL JUST TAKE NOTE OF THAT, THEN YOU'LL KNOW WHEN YOU NEED TO REACH OUT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE FORT 11 ON THE AGENDA WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE SO, THAT'S IT, IF THERE'SANYONE ELSEBACKER ANYTHING ELSE I CAN HELP YOU WITH, I'LL PUT FILE INS THERE,
AND THINGS GET LOST IN E-MAILS. >> SO, ON HIS -- HISTORICAL IT IS NOT WITHIN THE CITY OF GREEN
COVE, IT'S OSING OUTSIDE, IS THAT OKAY? >> IT'S THE PROPERTY APPRAISER,
SO IT SHOULD INCLUDE PROPERTIES. >> THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE I DID THE HISTORIC HOME TOUR
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INING GREEN COVE. ONE OF THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS WITH US WAS TALKING ABOUT THESE OLD BUILD CHASTISING WAS IN GREEN COVE AND HE SAID, THIS USED TO BE THIS AND THIS USED TO BE AND THEY'RE EMPTY BUILDINGS AND I'M LIKE, DOES ANYBODY RECORD ANY OF THOSE AS FAR AS BEING HISTORIC BUILDINGS. I DIDN'T KNOW IF OUR FOCUS WOULD ONLY BE OUTSIDE OF THECITY OF GREEN COVE OR WOULD INCLUDE THE CITY OF GREEN COVE. >> WE'VE DONE MARKERS INSIDE THE CITY OF GREEN COVE. IF THERE WERE PROPERTIES THAT WERE IN THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY THAT WERE DESIGNATED AS HISTORIC AND PEOPLE WERE WANTING TO -- AND THEY WERE DESIGNATED BY THE BOARD AS HISTORIC AT THAT LEVEL AND YOU WERE LOOKING AT THE CERTIFICATES OF APPROVAL OR APPROPRIATENESS, YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY, BUT AS FAR AS DOING RESEARCH, YOU COULD EXTEND THAT TO THE INCORPORATED AREAS IF
YOU WANTED TO. >> WELL, THE REASON WHY I ASK IS BECAUSE I'VE SEEN A LOT OF OLD HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND ONE OF THE LADIES THAT WORKS WITH ME, THERE IS A HOUSE IN MIDDLE BERGER THAT'S FROM 1885, AND THEY'VE GOT THEIR OWN SIGN UP THERE BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE A HISTORIC MARKER AT ALL. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD EVEN ENTERTAIN OR NO?
>> YOU SAID MIDDLE BERG, IT'S NOT AN ABING XHUL TOWN, THAT'S IN UNINCORPORATED COUNTY, SO
THAT CERTAINLY WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE -- >> AND THERE'S A SIGN UP THERE THAT SAYS BARTHEL HOUSE, 1885, BUT IT EATS THE SIGN THEY PUT UP, NOT A HISTORICAL MARKER.
>> HAS WAS THEIR CHOICE. I GUESS THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE THE EXPENSE.
ER >> IS IT SOMETHING WE WOULD ENTERTAIN?
>> THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME TO US AND MAKE AN APPLICATION. >> OKAY.
WELL, I WILL TELL HER BECAUSE I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO
MARK. ER >> I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WE'RE GETTING CLOSE ON IT ESPECIALLY THE COUNCIL IS STARTING TO CATCH UP, SO I MEANT TO HAVE AN ACCOUNTING FOR YOU AT YOUR BUDGET BUT I WILL HAVE IT FOR YOU NEXT MONTH.
>> EVEN IF IT'S A COUNTY SIGN, SOMETHING THAT TALKS ABOUT A HISTORIC FAMILY IN THE COUNTY,
I JUST THOUGHT -- >> AND MAYBE IF THEY WANTED TO PAY FOR IT THEMSELVES AND IS
HAVE A SIGN CONSISTENT WITH OTHERS, THAT WOULD BE OKAY. >> OKAY, I WILL LET HER KNOW.
>> AND WE DEFINITELY CAN CAN WORK INSIDE THE CITY OF GREEN COVE BECAUSE WE HAVE MEMBERS ON THE BOARD THAT WE HAVE MEMBERS ON, JERRY LIVES IN THE CITY AND NOT IN THE UNINCORPORATED SIDE
AND STEVE, SORRY. >> OKAY. THAT'S IT FOR THE STAFF
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COMMENTS. WE WILL GO ON TO BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS, WE'LL START DOWNTHERE WITH JERRY AND WORK OUR WAY AROUND. >> THE ONLY THING THAT HAS BEEN ON THE TOP OF MY AGENDA PERSONALLY LATELY IS THE FACT THAT IT TOOK A WHILE TO GET ATTACHED TO THE NEW INTERNAL E-MAIL SYSTEM THAT WAS SET UP RECENTLY FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
I HAVE EQUIPMENT PROBLEMS AND EVERYTHING, SO I EVENTUALLY GOT HOLD OF TECHNICIANS WHO AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICE WHO COULD CONNECT ME OR SET ME UP WITH IT AND I THOUGHT, GREAT, AS I GOT HOME AND TRIED TO LOG INTO IT AND ALL I COULD FIND WAS OLD MESSAGES FROM PREVIOUS BUT NOTHING VERY RECENT, SO I DID TRY TO SEND YOU ONE JUST TO TEST WHETHER WE'VE GOT COMMUNICATION. DID YOU SEE ANYTHING FROM ME TODAY?
I SENT IT TODAY I BELIEVE, YES. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> ALL THESE GREAT THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED, YOU'RE SUPPLYING US WITH, THEY'RE NOT THERE. SO, MAYBE I NEED TO GO BACK TO
THAT OFFICE. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> DO YOU SEE A MESSAGE?
>> YES. >> OKAY, AT LEAST BETWEEN YOU AND ME, I'VE GOT SOMETHING BUT FOR SOME REASON, I'M NOT SEEING WHATEVER YOU SENT BY WAY OF THESE --
>> I SEE THE E-MAIL ABOUT THE MEETING AND THE AGENDA, DID YOU GET THAT?
>> [INAUDIBLE]. >> YES. >> [INAUDIBLE].
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>> I'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET THE RIGHT ONE. >> GOOD, SO THEN THEY'LL
SUDDENLY BE REVEALED. >> WHEN YOU GET INTO THE RIGHT E-MAIL ACCOUNT, YES.
>> THEY WERE VERY POLITE AND VERY HELPFUL OR TRIED TO BE, SO I ASSUME I WAS GETTING THE
LATEST. ER >> WHO DID YOU WORK WITH, WAS
IT STAN? WHO DID YOU WORK WITH? >> HIS NAME WAS --
>> COREY? >> NO, IT WAS -- WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH ME?
I THINK IT WAS WILLIAM. >> IT COULD BE WILLIAM HUFFMAN, OKAY, I'LL REACH OUT TO WILL AND EXPLAIN THAT IT'S NOT QUITE THE RIGHT E-MAIL, IT'S NOT THE CURRENT E-MAIL.
HE WASN'T INVOLVED WITH ESTABLISHING THE E-MAILS, SO I'M SURE THAT'S JUST --
>> YEAH, I CAN GO BACK THERE WHENEVER. >> WE'LL GET YOU SET UP SO YOU
CAN GET ALL THESE LOVELY E-MAILS, JERRY. >> OKAY.
I THINK I'M DONE, THAT'S ENOUGH OF AN ISSUE FOR ME. >> OKAY.
WELL, I'LL SAY A GOOD WORD FOR STAN BECAUSE WHEN I GOT MY PIECE OF PAPER WITH ALL THAT ON IT AND THE PASSWORD, THE PASSWORD DIDN'T WORK AND YOU HAD ON THERE STAN'S NUMBER AND I CALLED HIM, SO EXCELLENT. SO I AM GETTING OUTLOOK E-MAILS.
>> YEAH. >> AND OTHER THAN THAT, LOOKS LIKE EVERYTHING'S SETTLED.
>> THIS MIGHT NOT BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO BRING THIS UP.
WE SPOKE OFF THE RECORD ABOUT CREATING A CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION AND APPRECIATION FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE HELPED OUT WITH HISTORICAL PROJECTS, IS THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO IMPROVE OR DO WE WANT TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA? IT MIGHT HELP TO HAVE THE PUBLIC INTERFACE WITH US A LITTLE BIT MORE.
YOUR EAGLE SCOUT COULD GET A CERTIFICATE, AN AWARD HERE, SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HELPED ME WITH PLEASANT POINT THAT HAVE BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED IN THE LOCAL NEWSPAPERS BUT WE COULD ACKNOWLEDGE THEM HERE OFFICIALLY. I DON'T KNOW NA'S SOMETHING THE
COMMITTEE WANTS TO DO. >> IF THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO DO THAT, I CAN CHECK AND MAKE SURE THERE'S NO CONFLICT, NO ISSUES WITH YOU ALL DOING THAT. AISLE -- I'LL JUST MAKE SURE OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM HAS NO ISSUES WITH IT OR CONFLICT WITH OUR BOARD. I THINK IT WOULD BE A NICE GESTURE.
ER DOFRJT WE NEED TO PUT IT ON AN AGENDA TO MAKE SURE THE COMMITTEE DOESN'T FEEL IT'S A
WASTE OF TIME? >> NO N THE PAST THIS WAS DONE BY PEOPLE WHO DISTINGUISHED THEMSELVES BY EXTRA SERVICE AND SO FORTH, BUT THEN SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WE WERE TOLD, WELL,
THE COUNTY DOESN'T WANT TO HAVE SO MANY OF THESE THINGS: >> WAS IT DONE HERE OR AT THE
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS? >> THE OLD COURTHOUSE, THAT WAS SEVERAL YEAR AGO, FOR REASONS UNKNOWN, WE WERE TOLD THAT BUT PRIOR TO THAT, WE DID HONOR PEOPLE LIKE PAT MUELLER AT
MILBURG AND STUFF LIKE THAT. >> OKAY. >> SO, HOPEFULLY THEY'VE FORGOTTEN THIS PROHIBITION IDEA, YOU KNOW, AND WE CAN HONOR PEOPLE WHO REALLY GO THE EXTRA MILE TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN FOR THE HISTORIC SCENE, YOU KNOW, GOOD.
>> I WILL CHECK INTO IT FURTHER AND SEE IF I CAN FIND OUT WHY THAT WAS DISCONTINUED AS A
PRACTICE. >> YES, IT'S AMAZING, ALRIGHT. >> DO YOU WANT ME JUST TO
FOLLOW UP WITH YOU BEHIND THE SCENES? >> THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA, AND DEPENDING ON WHAT THE OUTCOME IS, WE CAN CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
IF YOU HAVE A MOCK UP, THEN -- WE'LL WORK ON IT. >> ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE'RE STARTING TO GET MORE AND MORE YOUNG PEOPLE INVOLVED IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE WORK THAT THEY ARE DOING.
>> ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT. >> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
>> NO. >> SHE'S A NEW MEMBER AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NEW TO SAY?
>> WELL, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS TO ASK BUT I HAVE TO KIND OF TAMPER THAT A LITTLE, YOU HAVE TO LET ME COME BACK. I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU GUYS. HISTORY'S MY PASSION, SO JUST HOWEVER I CAN HELP OUT AND IF I
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GET TOO ANXIOUS, SAY, CALM DOWN A LITTLE BIT. >> WE WON'T DO THAT, I PROMISE.
>> YEAH, SO GIVE ME A MONTH TO GET ALL THIS KIND OF ABSORBED AND THEN I'LL HIT YOU WITH MY
QUESTIONS. >> I JUST WANT TO ASK THE BOARD, HAS ANYONE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH THE NATIONAL REGISTRAR AND GETTING ANYTHING -- I KNOW WI WENT TO THE JAIL A WHILE AGO, THAT WAS MENTIONED AS ONE OF THE PASSION PROJECTS, TRYING TOING GET THE JAIL ON TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER, I HAVE TAKEN A LOOK AT THE APPLICATIONS AND WHAT NOT AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE AN EXPENSIVE THING BUT MORE OF PROCESS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE PAST IF ANYONE HAS DEALT WITH TRYING TO GET THAT OVER THE LINE.
IS THAT SOMETHING THE BOARD HAS DEALT WITH OR HAD EXPERIENCE WITH?
>> NO, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE JAIL. >> I THINK WHEN VISHI MENTIONED THAT, SEE A WAY WE CAN PRESERVE THE JAIL AND TAKE IT TO ANOTHER STEP.
I DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH INFORMATION ON IT. >> WOULDN'T THAT BE SOMETHING THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO PUT FORTH SINCE THEY OWN THE JAIL AND STUFF?
>> WELL, YEAH, THE WEBSITE SAY TOS START WITH THE STATE LEVEL AND THEN I THINK THEY BUMP IT ON UP, SO I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT GOES UP UNTIL -- YE, IT HAS TO DEAL WITH THE
PROPERTY OWNER AND WHETHER IT'S PUBLIC OR PRIVATE. >> THE JAIL?
>> YOU'RE TALKINGABOUT PUTTING IT ON THE NATIONAL REGISTRY? >> YES.
>> BECAUSE IT'S THE SECOND OLDEST JAIL IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
>> I KNOW MAUREEN HAD DONE WORK WITH THE NATIONAL PARKS SERVICE TO GET THE MIDDLE BERG COLORED SCHOOL, TRYING TO PUT IT ON THE REGISTER, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY PROPERTY I HAVE HEARD OF BEING
WORKED ON. >> YOU CAN ANT PATE A LITTLE BIT OF A PUSHBACK BECAUSE THE POPULARITY OF THE JAIL IS OFTEN FOUNDED ON THE IDEA IN ITS PRESENT CONDITION, IT LOOKS REALLY SPOOKY BEING DECAYED AND RUSTY AND PAINT PEELING, SO THAT'S PART OF -- TO THEM THA,'S PART OF ITS CHARM, THEY LOOK FOR SPIRITUAL THINGS, SO I WOULD CERTAINLY BE IN FAVOR OF RESTORATION TO SOME DEGREE, BUT YOU'LL PROBABLY GET SOME PEOPLE OBJECTING.
>> YEAH, I THINK IT'S PART OF CLAY COUNTY'S HISTORY. >> ABSOLUTELY, SOUNDS GOOD.
>> IT SHOULD LOOK MORE OR LESS LIKE IT DID WHEN IT WAS IN OPERATION AND NOT SOME
PICTURESQUE RUIN. >> YUP. >> I HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT ABOUT STEVE WAS TALKING ABOUT GETTING SOMEONE TO WORK TO BE IN CHARGE OF LAWN MAINTENANCE OR WHATEVER ON THE CEMETERIES AND IT SOUNDED LIKE -- I'M NEW DOING ANYTHING WITH GOVERNMENT BUT YOU USUALLY DON'T PICK SOMEONE AND GET A BID FROM THEM, IT WOULD USUALLY BE ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING PAY FOR IT, IF HE PAYS FOR IT HIMSELF, HE CAN DO THAT.
DON'T YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN OPEN FOR BID POSTING. >> THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE FURTHER DISCUSSION BECAUSE NA'S NOT T A COUNTY CEMETERY, CORRECT?
>> CORRECT. >> SO, THE COUNTY WOULD NOT BE FUNDING THAT.
I THINK WHAT YOU ARE SAYING WAS YOU WERE HOPING THE GRANTS DEPARTMENT COULD APPLY FOR AN ABANDONED AFRICAN AMERICAN CEMETERY GRANT, IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR ON THAT?
>> AND TO HER POINT, I SHOULD PROBABLY GET THREE BIDS, BUT I THOUGHT THE COUNTY WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH THE SAME AGENT THEY USED FOR ALL THEIR LAWN CARE ACROSS THE COUNTY IN
RESPECT TO WRITING THAT GRANT FOR US. >> OKAY.
WELL E WE'LL HAVE TO CHECK WITH MEGAN AND THE GRANTS DEPARTMENT AND SEE IF THEY HAVE THE TIME AND MANPOWER TO DO THAT AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO AND WHAT THEY NEED IF THEY DO NEED THREE
ESTIMATES OR JUST ONE. >> OKAY, FANTASTIC, GREAT. >> OKAY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS? IF NOT, WE STAND ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.