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>>> GOOD MORNING. WE HAVE A QUORUM.
THE FIRST THING IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THE NEXT THING WE'RE GOING TO DO IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE HAVE A SIGN-IN SHEET MISSING, SO WE'RE GOING TO DO A ROLL CALL BY VOICE÷÷VOICE WITH MR. PADGETT ACROSS IF YOU'LL GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE
RECORDING. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. --
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>> ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM LAST WEEK. SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES? ALREADY, I NEED SOMEBODY TO MAKE A MOTION.
I HAVE ONE MOTION TO APPROVE THEM. SECOND?
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AYE. THE MINUTES PASS. THE NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS.I'D LIKE TO WELCOME JESS MARTIN AND KIM HALL UP.
THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING US TONIGHT.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LET US INTRODUCE OURSELVES AND BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THE BOARD HERE.
MY NAME IS JESS MARTIN. I'M THE OUTREACH AND PARTNERSHIP COORDINATOR FOR NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST AND PUTNAM LAND CONSERVANCY.
>> I AM KIM HALL WITH NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST.
I AM HERE TONIGHT TO JUST KIND OF GO OVER SOME OF THE PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AND DISCUSS THE O TO O AND I'M READY TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
SO I'M PREPARING THIS PRESENTATION. I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY OF YOU -- I KNOW AT LEAST THREE OF YOU PERSONALLY YOUWHO HAVE -- ALL BEEN WORKING TOGETHER FOR THE LAST 20 OR SO YEARS. WE'VE ALL TOUCHED THE SAME CIRCLES, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU ARE AS INTRICATELY FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THE WORK WE'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, IN THIS REGION, AND SO WE'RE SO EXCITED AND HAPPY THAT CLAY COUNTY HAS NOW SET UP ITS OWNOWN PROGRAM. AND AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT, JUST KNOW THAT EVERY PICTURE YOU SEE IS FROM CLAY COUNTY. THINGS THAT I CAN'T TALK ABOUT AND THAT I'M EXCITED TO SEE MAYBE COME THROUGH, BUT JUST UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PICTURES, THEY'RE ALL FROM CLAY I'M GLAD THIS ISN'T A RADIO SHOW.
SO HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING EVERYTHING THAT LED UP TO THIS COMMITTEE GETTING PUT TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, FROM BEGINNING TO END? I'M ASSUMING THAT ANYBODY THAT APPLIED TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE HAS BEEN FOLLOWING IT FROM THE VERY INCEPTION, FROM THE VERY, VERY BEGINNING. SO YOU GUYS SAW NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST GO THROUGH THE GREEN PRINTING PROCESS LEADING UP TO THE REFERENDUM AND ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT.
IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING YOU GUYS HAVE TRAVELED THIS WHOLE COURSE TOGETHER? PRETTY MUCH? OKAY. I DON'T WANT TO REHASH OLD THINGS÷÷ AND, YOU KNOW, START FROM THE VERY, VERY BEGINNING.
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>> I DON'T MIND WAITING. YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF OTHER THINGS.
>> I'LL GO DOWNSTAIRS AND GRAB THE LAPTOP TO BRING BACK UP.
>> NO, I'M FLEXIBLE. NO PROBLEM.
>> I WILL RUN DOWNSTAIRS TO GRAB MY LAPTOP.
I LEFT YOU SOME HANDOUTS. WE CAN GO OVER THAT PART. THE NOMINATION FORM IS THERE. SO I WILL LET YOU KNOW WE HAVE THAT ON THE WEBSITE, ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW TO NOMINATE PROPERLY.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. SO THE NOMINATION PERIOD IS OPEN. IT RUNS THROUGH THETHE OF FEBRUARY, AND ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO NOMINATE CAN GO ONLINE. THEY CAN EITHER FILL OUT -- IT'S A FILLABLE FORM ONLINE, AND THEN THE EMAIL ADDRESS IS ON THERE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE FORM. THANK YOU.
IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE NIGHTS. OR THEY CAN PRINT IT OUT AND THEN FILL IT OUTOUT AND MAIL IT IN TO US, AND WE CAN TAKE IT THAT WAY. THANK YOU.
THE OTHER HANDOUT I GAVE YOU IS THE ONE WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY DISCUSS IN MORE DETAIL AND WALK THROUGH. PARDON ME FOR PAUSING AGAIN.
SORRY. SO -- I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE EVENINGS IF IT CAN GO WRONG, IT'S GOING TO BE WRONG.
I APOLOGIZE. SO TONIGHT IS DAY TWO OF THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE FAMILY LANDS PROTECTION PROGRAM OPEN APPLICATION PERIOD, WHICH STARTED YESTERDAY, AND RUNS THROUGH JANUARY 23RD.
SO IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN THAT, WE JUST KIND OF WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TOTO THAT ON THE WEBSITE SHORTLY SO THAT PEOPLE CAN JUST HAVE A SHORT LINK, BUT, IN THE MEANTIME, WE WANTED TO JUST PUT THE WORD OUT AT OUROUR MEETING, AND I'M GOING TO WORKING ON -- THE NEXT PROJECT IS TO ADD TO THE WEBPAGE A PAGE OF LINKS OF KIND OF ASSOCIATED AGENCIES AND PROGRAMS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
THIS ONE WILL GO ON THERE. IF YOU, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT DAY OR TWO WHILE IT'S STILL FRESH IN YOUR MIND, THINK OF AN AGENCY OR PROGRAM THAT YOU FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING A LINK TO NON WEBSITE, PLEASE EMAIL ME, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE, AND I CAN ADD TO IT.
I DON'T KNOW WITH THE HOLIDAYS, YOU KNOW, WHAT I.T.
'S SCHEDULE WILL BE TO DO THAT, IF WE CAN GET THE PAGE DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR OR NOT.
I KNOW I WILL BE OUT FOR A LITTLE BIT.
I DON'T KNOW THEIR SCHEDULE. SO I'M CROSSING MY FINGERS AND HOPING WE CAN DO IT BY THE END OF THE YEAR, IF NOT THE FIRST OF JANUARY, WE CAN HAVE THAT PAGE UP BEFORE YOUR MEETING.
THAT'S THE NEXT GOAL. THE NEXT THING I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT IS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AN INTERACTIVE
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MAP TO BE HOSTED ON OUR WEBSITE, AND I.T. IS WORKING ON THAT. THANK YOU, HEATHER, FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE WITH THAT. IT ISN'T PUBLIC YET. I PUBLIC THEY'RE LOOKING AT THREE DATA LAYERS THAT THETHE WEREN'T JELLING FOR THEM. SO SHE'S WORKING TO FIX THAT FIXAND THEN SHOULD HAVE IT, HOPEFULLY, SOON. HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE END OFOF YEAR. AND SO FOR YOUR JANUARY MEETING, WE'LL BE ABLE TO --TO STAFF WILL HAVE TIME THEN. IT WILL BE UP AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT TO DO THAT REPORT, GATHER THAT DATA THAT WE NEED FOR THE PARCEL -- I FORGOT THE NAME OF IT, BUT THE PARCEL REPORT WE PROVIDE TO YOU FOR YOUR NEXT LEVEL OF VOTING.SO WE WILL GET BACK TO THAT PRACTICE EXERCISE FOR THE JANUARY MEETING. AND I HAVEN'T GOT ANYTHING WORKED OUT ON THE SITE VISIT BUT WE WILL INCORPORATE THAT. AND AS SOON AS I GET WORD THAT THE MAP IS LIVE, I WILL LET YOU ALL KNOW. I'LL SEND OUT AN EMAIL TO EVERYBODY SO THAT YOU CAN GO ON AND CHECK IT OUT AND BE FAMILIAR WITH IT BEFORE THE MEETING ACTUALLY COMES AROUND.
SO ANYWAY, AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE YOUR PRESENTATION.
>> ABSOLUTELY. AGAIN, MY NAME IS KIM HALL.
I'M WITH NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST. THESE TWO PICTURES, THE ONE ON THE RIGHT, IS BLACK CREEK, THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS A TRIBUTARY THAT DRAINS INTO BLACK CREEK.
YOU HAVE SOME AMAZING PIECES OF PROPERTY OUT THERE THAT ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, ASKING TO BE CONSERVED. I PICKED THOSE TWO PICTURES OUT, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY THE PARTS WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO. AND THAT WE CAN APPRECIATE. SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST. WE WERE FUNDED IN 1999.
THIS IS OUR 25TH YEAR OF CONSERVATION, AND OUR MISSION IS TO PRESERVE AND ENHANCE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE BY PROTECTING FLORIDA'S IRREPLACEABLE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
WE'VE GOT 19 STAFF NOW. IT'S BEEN AN ABSOLUTE OPERATING MACHINE THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
AND YOU CAN SEE ACROSS THE STATE THERE ON THE LEFT ALL THE TRIANGLES REPRESENT PROPERTIES THAT WERE EITHER CONSERVED DIRECTLY THROUGH OUR OWNERSHIP OR FACILITATED. TO DATE WE HAVE AROUND 43,000 ACRES THAT WE'VE PROTECTED, WHETHER WE'VE PURCHASED IT, WE HAD A HAND IN IT, WE FACILITATE% IT.
AS ALL OF YOU KNOW, IN ORDER FOR ALL OF US TO LIVE THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THE ENVIRONMENT DOES FOR US, BUT WE DON'T ALWAYS UNDERSTAND HOW CONSERVATION FITS IN WITH OUR DAILY LIVES.
SO WE NEED PROTECTION FROM STORM FLOODING. WE NEED WATER RECHARGE SO THAT OUR WATER SUPPLY IS CLEAN. WE, SOME OF US, REALLY LIKE TO GO OUT AND RECREATE AND ENJOY NATURE, AND NATURE ALSO, OUR CONSERVATION, HELPS MAINTAIN OUR PROPERTY VALUES. THE BACK OF THE CUL-DE- SAC IS WHERE EVERYONE WANTS TO LIVE TO GET TO WOODSY VIEW. BUFFER INSTALLATIONS. YOU HAVE CAMP BLANDING TRAINING CENTER THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY HERE.
AND WITHOUT CONSERVATION BUFFERS AROUND THEM, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TOTO OPERATE FULL MISSION READINESS. CONSERVATION OF WILDLIFE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS.
PRESERVING NATURAL HABITATS. THERE'S LOTS OF FOREST AROUND US THAT HELP TO FILTER THE WATER THAT GOES INTO THE GROUND. THOSE ARE WORKING FORESTS, SO THAT'S AN ENTERPRISE, BUT THEY SERVE A FUNCTION. AND FARMERS NEED TO KEEP FARMING. WE NEED THAT FOOD SECURITY.
WE NEED THOSE COWS. WE NEED THE ACREAGE OF ROW CROPPING, IF THAT'S IN CLAY COUNTY, BUT FARMERS NEED TO KEEP FARMING. AND THERE'S A CONSERVATION PIECE FOR THEM, TOO. SO WITHOUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT CONSERVATION PROVIDES, OUR WAY OF LIFE CAN BE A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING.
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SO YOU GUYS IN THE COURSE OF GETTING UP TO SPEED WITH THE REFERENDUM, YOU GUYS WENT THROUGH THIS EXERCISE.SO WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON COMMUNITY CONSERVATION AND WORKING LANDS, AND THERE'S NOTHING REALLY ING NEW THAT I HAVE TO TELL YOU HERE. CLAY COUNTY IS GOING TO FALL A LOT MORE UNDER THE COMMUNITY CONSERVATION WHERE YOU FIND PIECES THAT PROVIDE ACCESS OR PUBLIC RECREATION AND THEN YOUR WORKING LAND, SUPPORTING YOUR FARMERS THROUGH THE CONSERVATION PROGRAMS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THEM.
WHAT BROUGHT ALL OF THIS TOGETHER? THE O TO O, THE OCALA TO OSCEOLA WILDLIFE CORRIDOR IS A 100- MILE CORRIDOR THAT HAS 1.6 MILLION ACRES WITHIN IT, AND IT LARGELY FOLLOWS THE FLORIDA WILDLIFE CORRIDOR AND BASICALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WILDLIFE AND ANIMALS, RECREATION CAN ALL MAKE IT FROM ONE END OF THE CORRIDOR TO THE OTHER, AND THAT THOSE CONNECTIONS ARE KEPT AND MAINTAINED.
YOU SEE CAMP BLANDING ON THE WEST SIDE OF CLAY COUNTY.
THAT IS ONE AREA WHERE PARTNERSHIPS, WHERE WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS LIST OF PARTNERS, ALL OF THESE PARTNERSPARTNERS ARE WORKING WITHIN AND THROUGH THE WILDLIFE CORRIDOR. THIS CORRIDOR HAS BECOME SUCH A UNIQUE FUNDING OPPORTUNITY FROM A STATE LEVEL , WHICH DODIE JUST DESCRIBED, THE FAMILY LANDS IS IN ITS SECOND PERIOD TO FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, ALL CONCENTRATING MONEY IN THIS CORRIDOR. RCCP THROUGH THE USDA. WE HAVE ALL THESE PARTNERSHIPS BRINGING MONEY AND LAYERING MONEY ON TOP OF WHAT CLAY COUNTY HAS NOW DONE FOR ITSELF. SO YOU HAVE 45 MILLION, IS IT? OKAY. SO -- SO -- IMAGINE THAT YOU COULD TAKE THE DOLLARS THAT YOU HAVE AND -- AND MATCH FOR MATCH FIND THE PARTNERSHIPS, LEVERAGE THE MONEY THAT YOU HAVE AND DOUBLE IT. THAT'S -- THAT'S NOT ALWAYS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, DOUBLING, BUT A LOT OF TIMES YOU CAN LAYER THESE PROGRAMS TOGETHER LIKE AN RCCP THAT WOULD PAY 50% OF A CONSERVATION EASEMENT. YOU CAN PARTNER OF ONE OF THE STATE PROGRAMS. EACH ONE HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF PARTNERSHIP REQUIREMENTS, BUT THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS -- SEVERAL PROGRAMS THAT RUN THROUGHOUT THIS CORRIDOR THAT ARE GOING TO BE GOOD MATCHES FOR CLAY COUNTY'S PROGRAM THAT, DEPENDING ON HOW THEY LAY OUT, WHAT YOUR GOALS ARE FOR THE PROPERTY, HOW IT MEETS -- HOW A PROPERTY, A PARTICULAR PROPERTY, MIGHT MEET ITS OBJECTIVES WHETHER OR NOT A PARTICULAR FUNDING SOURCE WOULD BE A GOOD MATCH.
RURAL AND FAMILY LANDS, THE PROGRAM THAT JUST OPENED UP TWO DAYS AGO, THEY'VE GOT A GREAT CONSERVATION EASEMENT PROGRAM THAT WOULD PROBABLY MATCH WELL WITH WELL THE COUNTY IS DOING IN CONSERVATION, AND THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PROGRAM FOR YOUR COUNTY FORESTERS THAT HAVE FORESTRY LANDS OUT HERE, YOUR CATTLEMEN, WHATEVER -- WHATEVER YOU GUYS HAVE GROWING OUT HERE. ON THE FEE SIDE OF THINGS, WE'VE GOT -- FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AND THEY HAVE LESS THAN FEE PROGRAMS. BUT THERE IS A LOT OF WAYS TO LEVERAGE MONEY DEPENDING ON WHAT THE GOALS OF A PARTICULAR PROJECT ARE. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PARTNERSHIPS OR THE O TO O? OKAY.
SO -- THIS IS HOW WE WORK. I IMAGINE THATTHAT IS MANY OF THE SAME WAYS MANY OF THE SAMESAME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE AVAILABLE, AND ALL OF THOSE -- ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS ARE GOING TO BE ON THE TABLE FOR YOU GUYS, FOR THE COUNTY, AND ALSO WITH THE PARTNERSHIPS.
CAMP BLANDING, SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT PARTNERSHIPS, CAMP BLANDING, THE VAST MAJORITY OF IT IS IN
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CLAY COUNTY WHERE THE FUNDING COMES FROM MAJORITY IS BY FAR PROBABLY YOUR EASIEST PARTNER THAT YOU CAN WORK WITH. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM FOR 20 YEARS -- 21 YEARS. THEIR PROGRAM IS PROBABLYPROBABLY TO BE THE BEST AND EASIEST TO WORK WITH BECAUSE THEY'RE HERE.THEY WORK IN THAT THREE- MILE BUFFER. IF YOU HAVE PROJECTS THAT FALL OUTSIDE OF THAT THREE- MILE BUFFER OR, YEAH, THE THREE-MILE BUFFER, THEN WE LOOK, PIVOT, AND LOOK FOR OTHER FUNDING PARTNERS. BUT THEY HAVE BEEN A GREAT PARTNER THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
BY FAR ONE OF THE EASIEST TO WORK WITH.
FOR ANYBODY THAT'S THAT'S INTERESTED, WE PUT THE QR CODE FOR THE OO O PATH TO CONNECTION, ANYBODY THAT WANTED TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE O TO O, THE PARTNERSHIP'S IN IT, WHAT IT MEANS TO THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES THAT IT RUNS THROUGH.
CLAY COUNTY IS REALLY, AND CAMP BLANDING, THE KEYSTONE.
IT'S THE ANCHOR IN THETHE MIDDLE OF THE O O, AND IT'S A REAL UNIQUE÷÷ PLACEMENT FOR CLAY COUNTY TO BE, SO IF ANYBODY WANTED TO GET SNAP OFF THAT QR CODE, THAT'S A GREAT VIDEO ON THE O TO O.
ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST, JESS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE?
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO GIVE A COMMENT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, KIM, FOR ALL THAT INFORMATION.
>> OF COURSE. >> DODIE, WE MIGHT WANT TO USE -- IF YOU COULD BACK UP A FEW SLIDES, ALL OF THE PARTNERSHIPS, THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD STARTING POINT FOR THE WEBSITE. GO BACK ONE MORE.
YOU PROBABLY ALREADY STARTED ON THAT. MAYBE THAT WOULD BE A GOOD
STARTING POINT. >> NO, THANK YOU.
>> SURE. >> SO THE RURAL AND FAMILY LAND STUFF IS PRETTY NEW ANDAND NOT VERY WELL VERSED ON IT, BUT IT'S SIMILAR TO OURS WHERE PARCELS HAVE AN APPLICATION PROCESS. HOW WOULD WE DOVE TAIL WITH THAT PROCESS, JUST THEORETICALLY? SAY A PARCEL CAME IN TO CLAY COUNTY AND GOT APPROVED AND PUT ON THE PURCHASE LIST, HOW DO WE DOVE TAIL THAT PROCESS WITH THE RURAL FAMILY LANDLAND PROCESS?
>> SURE. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
THE FIRST QUESTION IS, IS YOUR PARCEL APPLICATION THAT CAME IN ALREADY ON THE RURAL AND FAMILY LAND LIST? THEY HAVE A GREAT MAPPING PROGRAM. THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, A LONG LIST.
AND I'D BE HAPPY TO GET YOU GUYS THE CURRENT LIST OF ANYTHING THAT'S IN CLAY COUNTY.IN SO, IS IT ON THE LIST? SO THEY HAVE, ON AVERAGE, ONE CYCLE A YEAR.
SO WHATEVER GETS PUT ON THE LIST NOW IS -- OR WHAT'S ON THE LIST AND ROLLING OVER NOW --
WHAT'S THAT PERIOD? >> SO THAT PERIOD GOES FROM NOW UNTIL JANUARY 23RD.
SO EVERYBODY'S -- A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GEARING UP.
WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING OUR LIST OF PROPERTIES. WE BLASTED IT OUT TO TO ALL PARTNERSHIPS ON THAT LIST AND MADE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THE APPLICATION PERIOD IS UPON US. NOW HOW IT DOVE TAILS INTO WHAT THE COUNTIES, HOW THOSE TWO PROGRAMS CAN WORK, THEY HAVE TO GET IN CYCLE TOGETHER, MEANING THAT, FOR INSTANCE, PRIMARILY HOW FDOX WORKS THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO TAKE THE LEAD, WHICH WILL MAKE THINGS EASIER ON THE COUNTY IF THE COUNTY IS AMENABLE TO ALLOWING THEM TO TAKE THE LEAD. TYPICALLY THE BIGGER THE AGENCY, THE MORE IN CHARGE THEY WANT TO BE.
HOWEVER, BUT THAT'S A NICE POSITION TO BE IN.
YOU CAN STEP BACK. YOU CAN BE A FACILITATOR AND WORK WITH THE LANDOWNER AND ALL THAT, BUT IF YOU CAN GET THEM LINED UP AND YOU BRING MONEY IN, A LOT OF TIMES YOU CAN TAKE A PROPERTY THAT IS RANKED LOWER ON THE RURAL AND FAMILY LANDS LIST AND BUMPBUMP UP BECAUSE IT HAS PARTNER MATCH. IF YOU FOUND ONE ON THE LIST YOU THOUGHT WOULD BE A GREAT APPLICATION, GET SOMEBODY TO FIND OUT WHO THAT PERSON IS OR WHO THAT OWNER IS, REACH OUT TO THEM, AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO APPLY. MAYBE THEY DIDN'T SEE -- SO WE'RE REACHING OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED TOTO A FEW YEARS GOING, HEY, CLAY COUNTY IS PUTTING OUT A NEW PROGRAM, AND SO IS RURAL AND FAMILY LANDS. APPLY TO EVERYTHING BECAUSE THE MORE YOU APPLY TO, THE MORE OPTIONS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE AND THE MORE YOU CAN LEVERAGE
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THE DOLLARS. WHEN CAN CAN GET THEM IN SYNC AND FDACS WILL TAKE THE LEAD, THEY'RE HANDLING THE APPRAISAL, THE DUE DILIGENCE, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO WANT THE COUNTY NEEDS TO CHECK AND SEE HOW THEY FEEL OR WHAT THEIR POLICIES OR ORDINANCES ARE WHEN IT COMES TO SHARING TITLE OR THIRD- PARTY RIGHT OF ENFORCEMENT, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET INTO THE PARTNERSHIP, THOSE ARE QUESTIONS QUESTIONS WILL COME UP. SO THOSE ARE JUST DIFFERENT THINGS. ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT WILL COME AVAILABLE LATER IN 2026-'27 IS GOING TO BE, HOPEFULLY, THE CTC.NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST WILL BE APPLYING FOR THAT AGAIN.
WHEN WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION, JESS WILL COME BACK AND GIVE A PRESENTATION ON THAT, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROGRAM WHERE THE COUNTY CAN TAKE THE LEAD AND THETHE USDA IS BEHIND YOU BACKING THAT WITH THEIR WITH50% HOWEVER THAT PROGRAM SHAKES OUT.
TYPICALLY IT'S 50%. AND THEN THE COUNTY WOULD TAKE THE LEAD. BUT RURAL AND FAMILY LANDS IF YOU CAN SYNC THEM UP AND COORDINATE WITH THEM. I WAS ON THE PHONE THREE TIMES THIS WEEK WITH THEM JOCKEYING FOR POSITIONS OF PROPERTIES.
IF I CAN GET YOU THIS MONEY, WILL YOU MOVE ON THIS PROPERTY? IT'S JUST A COORDINATION THING.
>> SO THE TWO TAKEAWAYS I TOOK FOR THAT, MAYBE FOR US TO THINK ABOUT, WHEN ONE OF OUR PERIODS CLOSES, A CROSS CHECK TO THEIR LIST WOULD HELP US TREMENDOUSLY WHEN WE TRY TO PRIORITIZE WHICH PROPERTIES, BECAUSE IT'S ONLY CONSERVATION EASEMENT? RURAL AND FAMILY LANDS IS ONLY CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
>> THE OTHER THING I PICKED OUT OF THERE THAT WE MIGHT NEED CLARIFICATION ON, HOW WILLING IS THE COUNTY TO GIVE UPUP OWNERSHIP PARCELS? WILL THEY PUT MONEY IN AND LET ANOTHER AGENCY RUN IT IF IT'S GUARANTEED÷÷ TO HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS FOR CLAY COUNTY RESIDENTS?
>> THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO KIND OF PUSH UP THE LADDER TO TALK ABOUT. I MADE SOME NOTES ABOUT THAT SORT OF THING, SO, YEAH.
>> THAT WOULD PROBABLY LIMIT WHAT WE'D CHASE, IF THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO ENTER INTO PARTNERSHIPS WHERE THEY DON'T GET TO BE THE LEAD. WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO JUSTCUT OUT A BIT OF NOISE.
>> I JUST HAVE A COMMENT ON THE RURAL AND FAMILY LANDSLANDS PROGRAM. WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPERTY -- YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT IS AN AGRICULTURAL EASEMENT.
SO IF YOU HAVE PROPERTY THAT'S IN TIMBER, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY COULD TAKE ALL THE TIMBER DOWN AND CONVERT IT TO PASTURE OR ANY OTHER AGRICULTURAL USE, SO WE WOULD JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PROPERTY IS SUITABLE FOR THAT TYPE OF PROPERTY.
>> AND ONE OF THE COMPLICATIONS I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT CAME UP, IF IT TRULY IS JUST AN AGRICULTURAL CONSERVATION EASEMENT AND OUR TOP PRIORITY IS GETTING PUBLIC ACCESS, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE A TOUGH MATCH THERE IF WE CAN'T WORK SOMETHING OUT, BECAUSE DIDN'T -- DIDN'T THE BOARD CHANGE THE RANKING AFTER TALKING TO THE PUBLIC, THE NUMBER-ONE PRIORITY IS TO ALLOW
>> IT WASN'T? I THOUGHT THOSE FIVE THINGS GOT
RERANKED. >> THE TOP IS DRINKING WATER AND THEN THE SECOND WAS THE WILDLIFE HABITAT AND CONNECTIVITY AND THE THIRD WAS THE FOREST AND FARMS AGRICULTURAL USE AND PRESERVING --
>> OH, OKAY. I REMEMBER MR. PADGETT HAD THE TWO LISTS AND I THOUGHT THE SECOND ONE -- I WAS CONFUSED.
>> IT WAS PROBABLY HIGHER ON THE FIRST ROUND MAYBE.
BUT THAT WAS WHERE WE WOUND UP WITH ANYWAY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME.
>> THANK YOU BOTH. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
>> APPRECIATE IT. NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> DODIE, I THINK WE'RE ON TO THE INFORMATION ONLY ITEMS NOW.
>> OKAY. WELL, I KIND OF PRETTY MUCH WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE SMALL PIECES, SO I THINK IF YOU DON'T MIND WE WILL GO THROUGH THE LIST OF JUST BULLET POINTS THAT I GAVE YOU ALL. AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE USE OF CONSERVATION LANDS.
SOME USES ARE PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, A HYPOTENSION USE AND THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS THAT
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ARE MORE CONDITIONAL, AND SOME THINGS WE MIGHT WANT TO SAY ABSOLUTELY NO. BUT JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GET SOME FEEDBACK. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN WRITING OR ANYTHING LINED UP YET, BUT THERE WILL BE A LOT OF STAFF CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER DEPARTMENTS BESIDES THIS PROGRAM'S POTENTIAL LANDS THAT WOULD BE SORT OF INVOLVED, SO WE'LL SEE KIND OF WHERE IT GOES, BUT AS A BEGINNING OF THE CONVERSATION I WANTED TO COME TO YOU AND SAY IF WE CREATE AN ORDINANCE THAT DEFINES WHAT CAN BE AN ALLOWABLE USE ON THE PROPERTIES THAT WE ACQUIRE THROUGH THE PROGRAM, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT EQUESTRIANEQUESTRIAN HORSEBACK RIDING BICYCLE RIDING OR ANY OF THESE OTHER USES? AND I CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME LANGUAGE I HAD COME ACROSS AS I WAS TRYING TO COMPILE AN IDEA OF HOW OTHER, YOU KNOW, COUNTIES ALLOW USES TO OCCUR ON THEIR LANDS.FOR INSTANCE, SOME HAVE JUST INDIVIDUAL CAMPING. SOME ALLOW GROUP CAMPING.
I'M NOT SURE -- I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE YET TO REALLY GET DEEP INTO THAT.
MY FIRST THOUGHT IS THAT GROUP CAMPING PROBABLY REQUIRES MORE ACTIVE MANAGEMENT, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT WE WANT TO GO THERE YET. THAT MIGHT BE MORE OF A DOWN THE ROAD KIND OF THING. BUT CERTAINLY IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT USES THAT ARE PASSIVE RECREATION ONLY. SO HIKING IS KIND OF AN IDEAL USE FOR CONSERVATION LANDS.
HORSEBACK RIDING IS CERTAINLY AN OPTION, NEEDS A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE WAY OF FACILITIES ININ PLACES. AND TRAIL MAINTENANCE.
BICYCLE RIDING WOULD BE OFFROAD MOUNTAIN BIKE USES.
THERE ARE AREAS THAT -- COUNTIES THAT HAVE PARTNERED WITH A BICYCLE CLUB THAT MAINTAINS THEIR OWN TRAILS IN ONE OF THE PARKS, SO IT CAN BE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP.
LET ME SEE. WE HAD SOME PICNICKING IS AN OPTION, SWIMMING WITH PROVISIONS THAT YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, DIVE OFF THE BANKS AND HANG UP THE ROPE SWINGS AND THAT KIND OF THING. AND THEN SOME PLACES WHERE IT'S PROHIBITED ALTOGETHER. HUNTING IS AN OPTION, BUT, AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT FORMS OF HUNTING, AND SO WE WOULD WANT TO, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER THAT. AND THERE'S QUALIFIERS ABOUT NOTNOT ANYTHING TO THE TREES, FASTENERS OR STANDS ALL HAVE TO BE PORTABLE AND REMOVED , THAT KIND OF THING. TRAPPING SEEMS TO BE PROHIBITED, THE THINGS I HAVE LOOKED AT, ALTHOUGH I DID SEE ONE COUNTY WHERE THEY HAD PUT IN A PROVISION WHERE IT WAS ALLOWED ONLY IF IT WAS PART OF A SCIENTIFIC STUDY OR TO REMOVE NUISANCE SPECIES FOR SOME REASON.
FISHING -- THE COMMERCIAL FISHING, OBVIOUSLY, WOULD BE AN INAPPROPRIATE USE BUT RECREATIONAL FISHING, AS LONG AS IT'S A NON- MOTORIZED CRAFT, THAT OUGHT TO BE PROBABLY COMPATIBLE. EVERY USE WE WANT TO PROVIDE KIND OF LIKE A LIST FOR OUR OWN USE. EVERY PARCEL IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.
AND SO WHAT'S APPROPRIATE IN ONE PLACE ISN'T GOING TO BE APPROPRIATE SOME PLACE ELSE. WE'D LIKE TO HAVE AN INITIAL LIST THAT OUGHT TO WORK MOST PLACES, AND THEN AS WE GET INTO ACTUAL ACQUISITION AND WORKING OUT CONSERVATION -- WELL, IT WON'T APPLY SO MUCH FOR THE CONSERVATION BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE LAND IN ALMOST EVERY CASE. BUT FOR THE ONES THAT WE ACTUALLY ACQUIRE, AS WE'RE DOING THIS STEWARDSHIP PLAN , WE WILL
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DEFINE WHAT IS AND ISN'T IN THAT ONE. THERE'S MOTORIZED VEHICLES, AND THAT, OF COURSE, COMES WITH ALL KINDS OF QUALIFICATIONS. IS IT MOTORIZED AS IN A SCOOTER FOR, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WHO NEEDS ASSISTANCE, AND THEN THERE'S SWAMP BUGGIES PROBABLY NEED TO BE PROHIBITED JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO TEAR UP THE ENVIRONMENT A BIT MORETHAN THE CONSERVATION PROGRAM IS LOOKING TO HAVE HAPPEN.SO, LET'S SEE, WE TALKED ABOUT BOATING. AIRCRAFT -- ONE OF THEM WENT TO THE EXTREME OF PROHIBITING AIRCRAFT INCLUDING SEAPLANES, BUT WE PROBABLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT POSSIBLY ALLOWING DRONES FOR THE FOREST SERVICE USE, IF NOTHING ELSE, MAYBE NOT AS A RECREATIONAL THING, OR MAYBE IT'S ALLOWED BUT IT DEPEND ON -- THERE'S PROS AND CONS.
WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK -- DO A LOT MORE RESEARCH ON A LOT OF THIS. FIREWORKS PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE PROHIBITED, BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW EVERYBODY FEELS ABOUT THAT. OBVIOUSLY CAMPING AND FIRES RELATED TO CAMPING AND COOKING IS SOMETHING WE WILL HAVE TO BE CAREFUL TO CONSIDER.
THERE WAS ONE COUNTY THAT ALLOWED PETS ON THE CONSERVATION LANDS, HAD TO BE LEASHED, AND IT ALLOWED DOGS UNLEASHED ONLY IF THEY WERE SPECIFICALLY AUTHORIZED AS A PART OF AN APPROVED HUNTING PROGRAM.
THAT WAS INTERESTING. I'M TRYING TO COMPILE SOME OF THIS SORT OF THING, AND I FOUND A GOOD SOURCE THAT HAD A PERMITS FOR ACTIVITIES THAT PROMOTE SCIENTIFIC,÷÷ EDUCATIONAL AND ARTISTIC ENDEAVORS AND A SPECIAL USE AUTHORIZATION PRCEDURE FOR THE EXCEPTIONS THAT COME UP. AND SOME OF THE USES IN THAT PROGRAM, SOME OF THE REGULAR USES WEREN'T -- THEY WERE MORE CONDITIONED ON HAVING THAT SPECIAL AUTHORIZATION.
SO -- I WILL BE DOING MORE RESEARCH ON IT, BUT I WOULD LOVE YOUR FEEDBACK IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR EXPERIENCES OR SUGGESTIONS OR WARNINGS.
>> I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. SO THEORETICALLY IF WE WANTED TO ALLOW HUNTING ON PROPERTIES IF THEY'RE LARGE ENOUGH, IF YOU WANTED TO PARTNER WITH FWC, THAT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF THE WEIGHT OFF THE COUNTY. THEY CAN SOMETIMES BRING MANAGEMENT DOLLARS AS WELL FOR FENCE AND RESTORATION AND ROADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> I DID NOT KNOW THAT. THANK YOU.
>> IT NEEDS TO BE PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL SIZE WISE, BUT IF WE END UP WITH A BIG PARCEL, TO ME, THAT'S WHERE YOUR HUNTINGS AND FISHING SHOULD GO. THAT WOULD TAKE -- DON'T YOU ALREADY HAVE FISHING AT VAN ZANDT PARK? DON'T THEY ALLOW FISHING THERE?
>> THAT WOULD BE MY FIRST THOUGHT ON THE HUNTING.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT TLING TO ALLOW, BUT THERE'S A REALLY NICE SYSTEM IN PLACE TO COVER ALL OF THAT FOR YOU, THEY HANDLE ALL THE PERMITS AND THE QUOTAS AND EVERYTHING. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE I WOULD THROW OUT THERE IS FOR THE SPECIAL USE AUTHORIZATIONS. I AGREE, I THINK A LOT OF THIS STUFF CAN BE DONE CASE BY CASE, AND IF YOU WANT A REALLY GOOD SYSTEM TOTO AT, THE ST.
JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT HAS A GREAT SPECIAL USE AUTHORIZATION SYSTEM. YOU CAN REACH OUT TO BRIAN EMANUEL. WE COVERED THE WEIRDEST REQUESTS UNDER THAT SYSTEM AND MADE IT WORK BOTH FOR THE PROPERTY AND FOR THE PERSON, SO I THINK THAT COULD BE A REALLY NICE CATCHALL.
>> THAT'S GREAT. I APPRECIATE THAT.
YEAH. >> MATT, DID THAT INCLUDE SPECIAL USE AUTHORIZATION FOR CATTLE OR FARMING? THERE MAY BE SITUATIONS WHERE WE ACQUIRE A FARM, BUT THE COUNTY DOESN'T WANT A FARM.
>> THERE WERE A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS THE DISTRICT DID THAT BUT, NO, MOST OF THOSE WERE THROUGH LEASES OR IN KIND WORK AGREEMENTS. MOST OF THE CATTLE, AT LEAST IN THE NORTH REGION WHERE I WORKED FOR THE WATER MANAGEMENT, THEY DID ALL THAT THROUGH IN KIND WORK ON THE PROPERTIES, SO THEY WOULD LEASE THE PROPERTY FOR CATTLE USE, AND JOSH WOULD BE ABLE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS VERY WELL -- THAT'S HOW I FIRST MET JOSH -- AND THEN WOULD DO FENCE WORK, ROAD WORK, HOG REMOVAL ON A NEGOTIATED MENU OF PRICES BASICALLY.
SO YOU CAN GET VALUE FOR THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO
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TRADE MONEY. WE DID ITIT SECURITY RESIDENTS AS WELL. THE SPECIAL USES IS FOR THE ONE-OFFS.A GUY WANTS TO TAKE A CARRIAGE WITH HIS HORSE BECAUSE HE'S MOBILITY IMPAIRED AND IT'S NOT ALLOWED UNDER THE RULES. IT'S A WAY TO MAKE YOUR RULES A LITTLE TIGHTER BUT THEN ALLOW THOSE COMMON SENSE ONE- OFFS TO GET CAPTURED.
>> I MEAN, AND THEN THE OTHER OPTION POTENTIALLY -- THAT'S A POTENTIAL MONETARY INPUT, SO IF WE BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S GOT REALLY GOOD GRAZEGRAZE LAND, WOULD THE COUNTY BE WILLING -- YOU'RE ALREADY NODDING. THAT WOULD BE AN OPEN MARKET LEASE TO MAKE REVENUE.
>> ANYBODY ELSE? WHAT DOES EVERYBODY ELSE THINK? I THINK DRONES IS A PROBLEMATIC ONE THAT YOU NEED TO BE REALLY
>> THERE'S PROBABLY A PLACE FOR IT, LIKE IF WE HAVE AN AREA OF A GIANT FIELD, REMOTE CONTROLLED AIRCRAFT, STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT SPECIFICALLY DRONES. I KNOW WITH THE MILITARY, WE'RE FIELDING A LOT OF CALLS FROM DRONES AND NEIGHBORS.
THAT WOULD BE ONE, SPECIAL USE OR
LIMITED. >> IS THE CALLS YOU'RE GETTING RELATED TO NOISE COMPLAINTS?
>> PUSHING MORE AND MORE DRONES IN THE MILITARY AND THEY'RE STARTING TO SHOW UP ON OUR BOUNDARIES MORE AND MORE.
>> OUR CAR SYSTEM GOES A QUARTER MILE OFF THE INSTALLATION, AND THERE'S A NEW PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE TO DRIVE A LOT OF OUR WAR- FIGHTING CAPABILITY TOWARD DRONES, AND SO FREQUENCY ISSUES, BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING PEOPLE AREN'T NECESSARILY UPSET, THEY'RE JUST VERY WORRIED ABOUT THEIR PRIVACY, WHICH IS, I THINK, A VERY VALID WORRY.
AND WITHOUT THE MILITARY BEHIND, IT MIGHT BE HARDER FOR THE COUNTY TO SAY, OH, NO, JOE SMITH OUT THERE FLYING HIS FAVORITE DRONE.
>> RIGHT. >> THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY ONE ON HERE, I THINK, IS SUPER
COMPLICATED. >> ARE PERMITS REQUIRED FOR DRONES? LIKE GENERAL USE?
>> YOU HAVE TO BE 107, SECTION 107 LICENSED, AND IT HAS TO STAY WITHIN YOUR VISUAL RANGE, WHICH IS WHY MAYBE FOR A FIELD WOULD BE THE BEST.
THERE ARE PERMITS YOU CAN GET, CATEGORICAL EXCLUSIONS TO 107 WHERE YOU CAN FLY -- I'M SORRY TO BOG THIS DOWN.
WE'VE BEEN LIVING IN DRONE WORLD FOR SIX MONTHS.
GETTING THOSE FROM THE FAA ARE DIFFICULT, SO MOST OF YOUR HOBBYIST OPERATORS ARE OPERATING UNDER 107 AND HAVE TO HAVE LINE OF SITE UNAIDED WITH THE DEVICE TO THE DRONE AT ALL TIMES, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT MOST DON'T DO THAT.
THEY'RE FLYING OVER THE NEXT BLOCK OVER AND THEY CAN'T SEE THE DRONE ANYMORE AND THAT'S TECHNICALLY AN FAA VIOLATION.
WHATEVER WE ALLOW, WE HAVE TO BE SURE THEY'RE MEETING THOSE RULES.
>> AND THAT WOULD BE, I THINK, AN ENFORCEMENT -- YES.
>> ONE THING TO REMEMBER ABOUT THE DRONES, THOUGH, THEY CAN BE A VERY HANDY TOOL.
>> IN THE TIMBER BUSINESS FOR US, IT'S VERY HANDY.
>> TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AND SEE THINGS. LIKE HE SAYS, THERE'S ALWAYS THAT SPECIAL NEEDS OR SPECIAL USE THAT YOU NEED TO CONSIDER.
>> BECAUSE THEY HAVE A VERY GOOD USE IF IT'S DONE RIGHT.
OKAY. >> WOULD THERE BE -- THERE WOULD BE TWO PATHWAYS, RIGHT, THE RULES FOR PEOPLE RECREATING AND THEN THE COUNTY AND MANAGEMENT MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT SET OF RULES.
IS THAT TRUE? NO RECREATIONAL DRONE USE, BUT IF YOU'RE BURNING WITH A DRONE, THAT'S A DIFFERENT --
>> HOW DOES LIABILITY ISSUES WORK? AS LONG AS YOU HAVE SIGNAGE, ARE YOU, LIKE, LEGALLY COVERED IF THERE WAS SOME SORT OF ACCIDENT ON A PUBLIC USE -- LIKE WITH THE SWIMMING OR HIKING OR --
>> THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE NEED TO TALK TO OUR LEGAL TEAM ABOUT BECAUSE I DON'TDON'T KNOW.
>> RIGHT. IT'S BEEN ADDRESSED THROUGH PARKS NOW, YOU KNOW. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE RULES ARE.
>> ONE OTHER FINAL THOUGHT I HAD, I THINK I AGREE WITH YOU
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ON THE SORT OF HESITANCY FOR GROUP CAMPING. AT THE DISTRICT THEY HAD A LOT OF GROUP CAMPING, AND THE SCHEDULING AND INFRASTRUCTURE TO MAINTAIN GROUP CAMPING, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO THAT FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED, IS DIFFICULT.AND SO WHEN YOU SAID MAYBE STICK WITH FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE CAMPING FOR A WHILE, I THINK, AGAIN, IF YOU'RE TALKING TO BRIAN EMANUEL YOU CAN PICK HIS BRAIN ON THAT AS WELL. HE RAN INTO A LOT OF PROBLEMS. YOU END UP WITH YOUR PARTY, GROUP CAMPING, AND YOU HAVE CLEANUP, YOU HAVE COMPLAINTS AND FIRES.
BUT I THINK CAMPING IS A VERY VALID USE.
>> ONE OTHER QUESTION. SO I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THIS WAS PRIMARILY PASSIVE RECREATION. THERE'S SOME THAT'S MORE NONPASSIVE ON HERE. IS THERE ANY -- WOULD ANY OF THESE PROPERTIES BE UTILIZED FOR OTHER TYPES OF RECREATION, OR WOULD THAT BE A DIFFERENT POT FROM THE COUNTY, SO, LIKE PICKLE BALL, OBVIOUSLY SUPER POPULAR RIGHT NOW.
>> WOULD ANY OF THESE PROPERTIES GO THAT DIRECTION?
>> NO BECAUSE WE HAVE A PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT, SO PICKLEBALL AND ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES FACILITIES ESSENTIALLY.
NOT TALKING BATHROOMS, BUT ACTUAL COURT OR SOMETHING THAT -- OR THAT'S A TEAM SPORT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S ALL UNDER PARKS AND REC. DIFFERENT GROUP, DIFFERENT PRIORITIES. WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT BASICALLY CREATING KIND OF TWO GROUPS OF PARKS WITHIN THE CONSERVATION SIDE. ONE BEING THE MORE ACTIVE OF PASSIVE ACTIVITIES, SO THE HORSEBACK RIDING, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT MORE ACTIVE THAN JUST HIKING AND THAT KIND OF THING. AND THEN THOSE ARE, LIKE, CONSERVATION PARKS, AND THEN HAVING MORE OF A NATURE PRESERVE WHERE HIKING IS LIKE THE ONLY ACTIVITY, AND THERE ARE ZERO FACILITIES. BUT THERE'S TRAILS AD THEY'RE MARKED.
AND THAT SEEMS -- THAT MODEL SEEMS TO WORK WELL.
I'VE SEEN THAT IN A NUMBER OF COUNTIES AROUND THE STATE.
IT ALLOWS FOR THE COUNTY TO ACQUIRE VERY ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LAND THAT NEEDS TO NOT HAVE PEOPLE ON IT TOO MUCH. AND ALSO PROVIDE OTHER PROPERTY, CONSERVATION PROPERTY, THAT CAN HAVE MORE ACTIVE TYPES OF PASSIVE RECREATION.
>> I GUESS THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS KIND OF WHAT YOU MENTIONED ABOUT HUNTING, AND IF WE DO A PARTNERSHIP, I GUESS, IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE LIKE A WMA, IS THERE, LIKE, DO THEY HAVE COMPLETE KIND OF CONTROL OVER HOW THAT WORKS, OR ARE WE ABLE TO SAY SAYMAYBE MORE CONTROVERSIAL DECISIONS WE DON'T CERTAIN HUNTING FOR CERTAIN SPECIES OR SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN RETAIN MAYBE MORE SAY OVER -- I MEAN --
>> LIKE BEARS, FOR INSTANCE, WHERE PUBLIC SUPPORT IS REALLY, LIKE, WE SUPPORT HUNTING BUT NOT TO THIS DEGREE.
>> RIGHT. I DEFER TO YOU, MATT, IF YOU HAVE WORKED WITH THEM.
>> WHEN YOU SET UP A WMA, IT'S A NEGOTIATION AND YOU GET TO SET THE GROUND RULES YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IN THAT WMA.
NOW, LIKE ANY SORT OF NEGOTIATION, IF YOU'RE TOO RESTRICTIVE, THEN IT'S NOT WORTH IT TO THEM AND THEY'LL WALK AWAY. THAT'S FINE. THERE WILL BE NO HURT FEELINGS.
A GOOD EXAMPLE, BLANDING OPTED OUT OF THE BEAR HUNT.
SO, FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, WE SAID WE WON'T BE A PART -- BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO USE SOUTH POST OF CAMP BLANDING, AND THEY WERE FINE WITH THAT.
THEY TOOK OUR REASONS, TOOK THE MEMO, FILED IT AND IT'S ON PUBLIC RECORD. OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THAT HAS BEEN GOOD THAT THEY'VE BEEN GOOD PARTNERS AND THEY REALLY ARE TRYING TO MAKE AN AGREEMENT THAT'S LIVING. WE MEET ONCE A YEAR.
WE GO OVER THE NEXT YEAR'S RULE CHANGES. AS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, WE CAN PROPOSE ANY RULE CHANGES. IT DOES TAKE A YEAR'S CYCLE TO PUSH THROUGH, BUT THEY'RE FAIRLY AMENABLE TO ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF.
FOR SOME REASON, JUST REALLY HATE DUCK HUNTING.
YOU COULD LIMIT DUCK HUNTING. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A DUCK SEASON IN THE BROCHURE.
EACH WMA CAN BE CRAFTED DIFFERENTLY.
THE BIG THING WITH WMA IS IT WOULD
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HAVE TO BE LARGE, YOU KNOW. IF WE'RE 600 ACRES OR LESS, PROBABLY NOT WORTH THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE WORK THEY WOULD HAVE TO PUT INTO IT. AND THEN THE OTHER THING THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF WMAS, ONES THAT HAVE MAN CHECK STATIONS SO THE FWC WILL RECORD WHO COMES IN AND WHO COMES OUT, BUT WHAT THEY'RE GETTING TO MORE AND MORE BECAUSE OF STAFFING AND FUNDING ARE JUST WALK- IN AREAS WHERE YOU SIGN IN AND OUT YOURSELF. THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET AROUND THAT POTENTIALLY. BLANDING HAS GONE TO ISPORTSMAN TO TRACK WHO IS ON THE INSTALLATION BECAUSE WE HAVE SECURITY ISSUES. IT COULD BE A SIMILAR THING WITH CLAY COUNTY WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO CHECK IN AND OUT THROUGH THAT.I THINK OUR LIMITATION WITH WMA IS NOT SO MUCH THE DETAILS, IT'S THE SIZE.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL.
>> ANYBODY ELSE? I REALLY DO LIKE THE PERMIT ON THERE. THAT'S VALID FOR RESEARCH AND THAT CAN FALL INTO THE SPECIAL USE AUTHORIZATION. THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WILL ASK A LOT OF INTERESTING QUESTIONS, AND GIVING THEM THE SPACE TO DO THAT, I THINK, IS VALID.
SO WHETHER WE SET THAT UP OR JUST MAKE IT A SPECIAL USE AUTHORIZATION -- IT GOT REALLY LOUD FOR A SECOND. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT, THIS PART. ANYWAY, I LIKE THAT A LOT.
THAT'S WONDERFUL FEEDBACK. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
WE'LL TAKE IT BACK AND DO SOME MORE THINKING AND SOMESOME RESEARCH AND SOME MORE TALKING AND KEEP YOU POSTED.
>> SO THE GOAL WITH THESE IS TO JUST KIND OF CRAFT COUNTY LANGUAGE FOR ALL OF THEM? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO?
>> YEAH. I THINK WE -- IT'S A CONVERSATION WE NEED TO HAVE WITH OTHERS, LIKE PARKS AND REC, RIGHT, AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THE OTHER COUNTY LANDOWNERSHIP, AND THAT'S GOING TO ULTIMATELY BE A BOARD DECISION OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT USES ARE GOING TO BE ALLOWED, BUT WE NEED A STARTING PLACE FOR THAT CONVERSATION, AND IT WOULD BE IDEAL IF WE COULD CODIFY THAT AND DEFINE AT LEAST WHAT THE LIST -- THE POTENTIAL LIST MIGHT BE WITH THE CAVEAT IT'S GOING TO BE ULTIMATELY DETERMINED ON A CASE-BY- CASE BASIS, BUT WE'LL CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, THESE KIND OFOF SO WE DON'T HAVE TO RE- INVENT IT FOR EACH÷÷ ONE. THE STANDARDS HAVE TO BE MORE OR LESS THE SAME. THE DEFINITIONS ACROSS THE BOARDBOARD NEED TO BE THE SAME.
AND THEN DECIDE IF IT'S GOING TO APPLY TO ALL COUNTY PROPERTY OR JUST THE ONES WITHIN THIS PROGRAM. THERE'S A LOT TO CONSIDER AND, OF COURSE, THERE'S COSTS. THAT ADDS TO IT.
WE'LL SEE. WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED.
>> AND THIS WOULD ONLY APPLY TO FULL FEE PURCHASES, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT GOING TO ASK ANYTHING OUT OF A CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
>> RIGHT. WE HAVE NO ACCESS RIGHTS.
THE PUBLIC HAS NO ACCESS RIGHTS, UNLESS IT HAPPENS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO, AND THAT'S VERY MUCH, YOU KNOW, AN INDIVIDUAL CHOICE.
NOT SOMETHING I WOULD EXPECT HAPPENS VERY OFTEN, SO WE WON'T BANK ON THAT ONE. OKAY.
WELL, THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAD.
>> WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE PUBLIC COMMENT. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT.
DODIE, I THINK THAT'S THE AGENDA. SO UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE --
>> NO, EXCEPT FOR, YOU KNOW, JUST WISHING YOU ALL A GREAT HOLIDAY COMING UP. WE WON'T SEE YOU UNTIL NEXT YEAR.
SO MAY IT BE A WONDERFUL ONE FOR
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