[CALL TO ORDER]
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>> WITH THAT, OI WILL CALL THE DECEMBER COUNTY
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING TO ORDER. FIRST ITEM 2025. I WILLMOVE APPROVAL. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND?
>> SECOND. >> OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THOSE MINUTES. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> AYE. >> ALL OPPOSED? PASSES 4-0. THE NEXT ITEM IS A PUBLIC COMMENT WHERE YOU CAN COMMENT ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. I WILL OPEN THAT.
[1. Public Hearing to Consider BOA 25-0016]
ANYBODY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS? WE'RE GOING TO COME TO CERTAIN ITEMS TOO. BUT, OKAY. I'LL CLOSE IT AND COME BACK TO US.FOR THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WHICH IS BOA25-0016, AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO OUR STAFF.
>> EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU, CHAIR. JENNY BURLAP, ZONING CHIEF PRESENTING BOA25-0016. THIS IS FOR DOUGLAS AND CHUTEE, DID I SAY THAT CORRECTLY? THE PROPERTY IS AT 1712 PICKWICK PLACE IN FLEMING ISLAND, AND THEY WOULD LIKE A REDUCTION IN THE SIDE SETBACK FROM 20 FEET TO 9.5. SO THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY. IT IS ON EAST SIDE OF. THE HOME WAS ACTUALLY BUILT IN 1970S, IN 1970, AND IT WAS THE FAMILY HOME OF MS. FUZZZELLE. SO THE EXISTING HOME CURRENTLY SITS AT THE 9.5 SETBACK. SO WHAT THIS WOULD BE A VARIANCE TO, IT WOULD BE SECTION 13-11D WHICH IS A NON-KORMING STRUCTURE, AND IT SAYS IF IT'S MORE THAN 60% OF THE HOUSE IS REMOVED, IT SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED IN CONFORMITY WITH THE CODE. AND I HAD ASKED THE APPLICANTS IF THEY COULD RETAIN SOME OF THE FOUNDATION TO NOT HAVE TO COME BEFORE THIS BOARD, AND THEY SAID AFTER SPEAKING WITH THEIR CONTRACTOR THAT THEY NEEDED TO REMOVE THE ENTIRE EXISTING STRUCTURE. SO THEY WOULD LIKE TO TEAR DOWN THE OLD HOME AND REPLACE IT WITH A NEW HOME IN THE SAME FOOTPRINT. SO ALTHOUGH STAFF FINDS NO HARDSHIP EXISTS WITH THIS PROPERTY, IT DOES MATCH THE PATTERN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO ULTIMATELY I HAVE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, BUT I CAN GO THROUGH THE CRITERIA FOR YOU. SO THIS IS THE EXISTING HOME ON THE LOT, AND YOU CAN SEE THE SIDE SETBACKS ARE 9 1/2 FEET ON THE NORTH SIDE AND APPROXIMATELY -- I CAN'T READ THAT. BUT I THINK IT'S 10 FEET ON THE SOUTH. SO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL OF A VARIANCE ARE THERE ARE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES THAT EXIST. THE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES ARE THAT THIS HOUSE EXISTED IN THIS OAK PARK PLAT WHICH ESSENTIALLY ALL OF THE LOTS OF 80 FEET WIDE. THE MINIMUM MUM LOT WIDTH FOR A.R.
ZONING WHICH THIS IS IN IS 100 FEET WIDE. SO THAT LOT IS NON-COMPLIANT WITH THE EXISTING AR ZONING. ALL OF THE PROPERTIES IN THIS OAK PARK PLAT APPEAR TO BE HAVE BEEN BUILT IN THE SAME FASHION SO THAT NONE OF THEM MEET THE 20-FOOT SIDE SETBACK.
THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE, AS I SAID, WAS BUILT IN 1970 BEFORE ZONING WAS ESTABLISHED. AND THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO UPGRADE THE HOME AND THEREFORE THEY CANNOT MEET -- THEY WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE IT IN THE SAME FOOTPRINT THAT IT CURRENTLY EXISTS WHICH WOULD NOT ADHERE TO THE AR CODE. THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WOULD CONFER ON THE APPLICANT OF PRIVILEGE THAT IS DENIED BY OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE AR ZONING DISTRICT, HOWEVER, NOT IN THIS OAK PARK PLAT. THE LITERAL
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INTERPRETATION OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD NOT DEPRIVE THE APPLICANT OF RIGHTS ENJOYED BY OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AR DISTRICT, HOWEVER, IT WOULD DEPRIVE THE OWNER OF SIMILAR RIGHTS IN THIS PLAT. THE REQUESTED VARIANCE TO DECREASE THE SIDE SETBACK IS THE MINIMUM OF VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW HOME CONSISTENT WITH THE PATTERNS ALONG THE STREET. AND I FEEL THAT THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WOULD BE IN HARMONY WITH THE GENERAL INTENT OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE BY MIMICKING THE HISTORIC PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO AS I SAID, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL BASED ON THIS CRITERIA THAT I OUTLINED FOR YOU. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND THEAPPLICANT IS HERE. >> LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
THE APPLICANT ASKED WE GRANDFATHER, AND YOU WERE SAYING IF IF THEY COULD SAVE THE FOUNDATION, YOU WERE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I ALSO READ IN THE APPLICATION PACKAGE WHY.
THEY CAN'T SAY THAT FOUNDATION BECAUSE IT WORKED FINE FOR THE HOUSE AS IT IS, BUT YOU HAVE TO BUILD EXACTLY ON TOP OF WHAT'S
RIGHT THERE. >> AND THE SAME SIZE. SO THEY'RE INCREASING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOME, SO THE FOUNDATION MAY NOT BE STRUCTURAL SOUND FOR THAT AMOUNT.
>> EXACTLY. >> LIKE WHEN YOU WERE SAYING, BACK WHEN THAT SUBDIVISION WAS DONE , WAS THERE A PLAT, AND ON THE PLAT DID IT SAY WHAT THE SIDE YARD SETBACKS WERE?
>> THE PLAT DID NOT SAY. I HAVE COPIES OF THE PLAT IN THE OAK PARK SUBDIVISION, SO IT WAS A CERTAIN AMOUNT ALONG SWIMMING
>> RIGHT. >> BUT IT DID NOT HAVE THE SIDE SETBACKS ON THE PLAT. WE STARTED DOING THAT AFTER ZONING.
>> OKAY. I KNOW WE DO IT NOW, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WAS, OKAY, THEY ARE 80-FOOT WIDE LOTS, MINIMUM, WHATEVER, AND YOU HAVE A 10-FOOT WIDE, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY GOT THERE. BUT NOW IN THAT ZONING CATEGORY, IT'S 20.
>> AND IN ALL CANDOR, THE ZONING CATEGORY SHOULD PROBABLY BE
SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN AR. >> AR, RIGHT.
>> CAN WE PUT A GRANDFATHER BLANKET OVER THE ENTIRE SUBDIVISION BECAUSE EVERY HOUSE IN THERE IS NON-COMPLIANT RIGHT
NOW. >> YOU CAN -- JAMIE -- IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY CAN DO THAT IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO THAT, THIS BOARD CAN GRANT A VARIANCE FOR ALL OF THE PROPERTIES WITHIN
THIS PLAT. >> OKAY. SO YOURS IS THE ONLY
>> WE'RE GOING TO LET TOM STAY. EVERYONE ELSE HAS TO GO. SORRY.
>> WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THEM ON THIS ROAD.
>> EXACTLY. THAT'S WHAT TOM GOT HERE. BUT THAT'S JUST IT. I MEAN, THE HOUSES WERE BUILT ON 80-FOOT WIDE LOTS WITH 10-FOOT SIDE SETBACK THEY DON'T COMPLY, AND THEY GOT 20 FOOT. YOU KNOW, YOU STILL HAD THE 60-FOOT SWATH TO BUILD YOUR HOUSE IN WHICH IS WHAT THEY HAD BACK THEN, SO I WAS, LIKE, OKAY, THERE'S YOU KNOW, HOW MANY HOUSES DO YOU GOT ON YOUR STREET, 50?
>> NO. THE WATER SIDE -- THIS ONE IS ON -- THE WATER SIDE ARE NARROW. I'M 100 AND A QUARTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> OKAY. >> NO. IT'S ONLY THIS SECTION
OF THE OAK PARK PLAT. >> OKAY. AND IT'S NOT ONLY WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO REBUILD ON THAT LOT WHICH, YOU KNOW, OVER TIME -- I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY LOTS AROUND DOCTOR'S LAKE WHERE SOMEBODY HAD A LITTLE WEEKEND GETAWAY SHED ALMOST, NOW IT'S A $3 MILLION HOME, AND YOU GO, WOW BECAUSE IT WAS JUST -- THERE WERE VERY SMALL HOUSES, AND NOW THEY'RE -- YOU KNOW.
>> AND LIFESTYLE CHANGES. >> WHAT?
>> LIFESTYLE CHANGES. >> OH, YEAH, YEAH. YEAH, EXACTLY. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF JENNI BEFORE I
BRING UP MR. FUZZELL? >> IF YOU WOULD COME UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF. I HAVE TO SWEAR YOU IN. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE?
>> DOUGLAS K. FUZZELL. MY CURRENTLY ADDRESS IS PICKWICK.
>> DO YOU SWEAR WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO STATE IS THE TRUTH, SO
>> ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD TO WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED OTHER
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THAN WHAT WE JUST BANTED ABOUT HERE?>> YEAH. A COUPLE THINGS REAL QUICK, IF I CAN. I DID TALK TO THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORS ON EACH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. I DO HAVE SIGNED LETTERS FROM THEM SAYING THEY HAVE NO ISSUE WITH WHAT
WE'RE TRYING TO DO. >> OKAY. AND I HAVE THESE FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO LOOK AT THEM.
>> PUT THEM IN THE FILE OR WE CAN PASS THEM THROUGH.
>> AND THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORS LIVE AT 81 SWIMMING PEN DRIVE, AND THEIR LAST NAMES ARE THE DORSEYS. AND THE OTHER NEIGHBOR -- THE OTHER NEIGHBOR TO THE LEFT OF THE PROPERTY, THAT ADDRESS IS 75 SWIMMING PEN DRIVE, AND THAT'S SO POT AND HIS WIFE. I COULDN'T GET HER SIGNATURE, BUT I GOT HIS. BUT THEY HAD NO ISSUE WITH IT. WE'RE REALLY GOING TO IMPROVE AND HAVE A NEW MODERN STRUCTURE AND ONE STORY, AND I THINK IT'LL JUST ENHANCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, YEAH, MY WIFE HAS LIVED THERE SINCE SHE WAS IN SEVENTH GRADE UNTIL SHE --
FROM HER MOTHER WHO'S NEARBY. AND ONE OF THE OTHER REASONS IS FLAT CEILING, NO CENTRAL HEAT AND AIR, NO ATTIC. CAN'T GET INSURANCE ON THE PROPERTY. IT'S LEAKING, AND THIS FOUNDATION THAT YOU MENTIONED, WE CONSIDERED THAT, BUT IT HAS -- BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THERE'S A HUGE TREE BUILT -- THE HOUSE IS BUILT AROUND A HUGE TREE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HOUSE, AND IT'S
DAMAGED THE FOUNDATION. >> ARE YOU SAVING THE TREE?
>> BUT IT'S DAMAGED THE FOUNDATION AND PLUMBING PROBLEMS, IT'S KIND OF LIKE -- IT'S TIME.
>> TIME FOR IT TO GO. THAT'S ABOUT IT, RIGHT? THAT'S ALL YOU
>> YOU CAN STICK AROUND IN CASE WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. YOU GOT TO ANSWER THEM ON THE MICROPHONE.
>> SORRY. >> YOU MENTIONED THAT TREE. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT. I DRIVE BY IT EVERYDAY.
>> YEAH. JUST A QUESTION. WHAT ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER TREES OUT FRONT? I THOUGHT A LOT OF THEM -- WE HAVE NO SAY ABOUT
>> I JUST WONDERED. >> OH, YEAH. THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO BECAUSE THEY'RE SO OLD AND FALLING DOWN TO BUILD A NEW DRIVEWAY AND A LARGER FOOTPRINT, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO -- I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO PLANTING NEW FRESH LANDSCAPING AND TREES
THERE IN ITS PLACE. >> DEPENDING UPON THE TYPE OF TREES AND JENNI COULD PROBABLY SAY MORE TO THIS, I KNOW IN PROJECTS THAT I HAVE DONE WHERE YOU TRY TO HARD TO SAVE THE TREES, AND THE ARBORIST WILL SAY THAT TREE HAS A 50, 75-YEAR LIFE SPAN ANYWAY, SO IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO DIE IN 20 YEARS WHETHER
YOU BUILD SOMETHING OR NOT. >> YEAH. THEY'RE KIND OF AT THAT STAGE, THEY'RE THAT OLD AND FILLED WITH SPANISH MOSS, AND THEY'VE HAD THEIR DAY, I GUESS.
>> RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY. PROBABLY A SHAME BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL TREE AND WAS A KID AND CLIMBED IN IT.
ANYBODY? >> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO
APPROVE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW YOU
>> AND AS I WAS REMINDED BY MY EXCELLENT STAFF, NOW I'M OPENING IT TO A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS APPLICATION? SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO US,
AND NOW WE CAN HAVE A MOTION. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION
TO APPROVE 25-0016. >> SECOND.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL. ALL IN FAVOR SAY
>> OKAY. DID YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT IT?
>> NO. >> IT'S APPROVED 3-1. OKAY.
GOOD LUCK TO YOU. OKAY. >> THANK YOU.
[2. Public Hearing to Consider BOA 25-0017]
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WE MOVE ON TO 25-0017. >> OKAY. AGAIN, JENNI BRIELA, ZONING CHIEF REPRESENTING BOA, 25-I HOPE THIS IS 17. YES. MR. WAGNER? YES. I JUST HAD THE WRONG NUMBER AT THE BEGINNING. I WILL CHANGE THAT. SO MR. WAGNER LIVES AT 1857 OSPREY BLUFF BOULEVARD IN FLEMING ISLAND, AND THIS IS A VARIANCE TO 93-16 TO ALLOW FOR SIDE SETBACK REDUCTION FROM 10 FEET TO NINE FEET. SO HERE IS THE AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE THAT HE CURRENTLY MEETS THE SIDE SETBACKS OF THE 10-FOOT SIDE SETBACKS. THE PARCEL IS LOCATED IN FLEMING ISLAND SOUTH OF COUNTY ROAD 220 AND EAST OF SWIMMING PEN CREEK, SO THIS IS ON THE OTHER SIDE. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS DEVELOPED WITH 40 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS IN 1981. THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PLAT, AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A ONE-FOOT DEVIATION FROM THE SIDE SETBACKS TO INCORPORATE A FULL BATHROOM. THE APPLICANT IS SAYING THAT BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION METHODS PREVIOUSLY ESTABLISHED ON THE LOT THAT THEY CAN'T BUILD THE LAVATORY INSIDE THE HOME WHEN TALKING WITH THE BUILDING PLANS REVIEWERS AND OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL. THEY SAID THAT THAT ISN'T A TRUE STATEMENT, THAT THEY COULD BUILD IT INSIDE THE HOME. THE HOME IS A FOUR BEDROOM, THREE FULL BATH HOME CURRENTLY. SO THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE HOME. THE APPLICANT DID TAKE AND PROVIDE PHOTOGRAPHS, I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE TO YOU IF ANY OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THESE PHOTOGRAPHS. BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE THE CONSTRUCTION METHOD IN THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THE SCREEN, AND WHEN I SHOWED THAT TO THE BUILDING, HE OFFICIALLY SAID THAT WOULDN'T BE AN IMPEDIMENT, BUT THAT WAS HIS OPINING. SO THE CONDITIONS OF THE VARIANCE, THE RESIDENCE IS LOCATED IN THE OSPREY BLUFF PLAT WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE WE JUST PREVIOUSLY SAW. THESE LOTS ARE APPROXIMATELY 100 FEET WIDE AND ARE IN THE RA ZONING DISTRICT. THE PROPERTIES APPEAR TO HAVE ALL BEEN BUILT WITH THE CORRECT SETBACKS. THERE'S NOTHING UNIQUE ABOUT THIS LOT THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO DEVIATE FROM THE RA ZONING DISTRICT. THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL HOUSE WAS BUILT IN '86, AND IT WAS COMPLIANT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT CODES, ALTHOUGH THE HOME MAY HAVE BEEN BUILT WITH A DIFFERENT FOUNDATIONAL METHOD, IT DOESN'T PROHIBIT THE APPLICANT FROM MEETING THE CURRENT CODES. AND GRANTING THE VARIANCE WILL CONFER ON THE APPLICANT A PRIVILEGE DENIED BY OTHER PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THE LITERAL INTERPRETATION WOULD NOT DEPRIVE THE APPLICANT OF RIGHTS COMMONLY ENJOYED BY OTHER RESIDENTS IN THE RA ZONING DISTRICT, AND THE REQUEST VARIANCE TO DECREASE THE SIDE SETBACK IS THE MINIMUM VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW BATHROOM. THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WILL NOT BE IN HARMONY WITH THE GENERAL INTENT OF THE LAST DEVELOPMENT CODE AND SIDE SETBACKS ARE NECESSARY TO PROVIDE RELIEF ALONG THE STREET AND BETWEEN HOMESTEADS. SO THEREFORE STAFF DOES RECOMMEND DENIAL BASED ON THE CRITERIA FOR VARIANCE EVALUATION. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE, AND I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE ANY ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
>> OKAY. SO THIS IS THE SAME ZONING CATEGORY WE HAD ON THE
OTHER ONE. >> NO, SIR. THAT WAS AR. THIS IS
RA. >> ARE THESE LOTS ABOUT 100 FEET
>> AND THEY HAD A 10-FOOT SIDE YARD SETBACK ON EITHER SIDE?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. WHERE AS THE OTHER AR HAS 20.
>> 20, OKAY. ANYBODY GOT QUESTIONS OF JENNI BEFORE I BRING UP MR. WAGNER? MR. WAGNER, IF YOU WOULD COME UP TO THE
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PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE?>> YOU'RE ABOUT TO STATE IS THE TRUTH SO HELP YOU GOD?
>> YES, SIR. >> VERY GOOD. SO YOU'VE GOT A, I THINK SHE SAID ANOTHER FOUR BATH, THREE BATH NOW AND YOU'RE TRYING TO ADD ANOTHER BATH ON, IS THAT --
>> WE'RE TRYING TO -- THERE'S AN EXISTING -- I WANT TO APOLOGIZE. WE GOT COMMUNICATE -- WE MISUNDERSTOOD. WE GOT COMMUNICATION, WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THIS WASN'T GOING TO BE A PROBLEM, SO I APOLOGIZE. WE ACTUALLY GOT A NOTICE TO PAY
>> FOR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS FOR THE COUNTY.
>> SEND IT TO ME BECAUSE IT'S A SCAM.
>> SHE TRIED TO REPLY TO IT. >> FORWARD IT TO ME.
>> SOMEBODY SENT A NOTICE AND SAID WE NOW NEED TO PAY $4,800 TO THE COUNTY WITH WIRING INSTRUCTIONS.
>> YEAH. THEY LOOK AT AGENDAS AND JUST --
>> I BROUGHT MY CHECKBOOK TONIGHT. WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THIS WASN'T GOING TO BE A BIG PROBLEM. IF I COULD EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT, WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE IN 2017 FROM THE ORIGINAL OWNER, IT WAS BUILT IN 1986. THE HOUSE IS IN VERY POOR CONDITION WHEN WE BOUGHT IT. WE BOUGHT IT AS A FIXER UPPER. WE WERE BOTH IN A POSITION THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT WE COULD AFFORD AT THE TIME. SO -- AND THEN WE'VE KIND OF BEEN DELAYED BECAUSE OF COVID. THE CORNER OF THE HOUSE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHS, WE DID MANAGE TO PUT A SWIMMING POOL IN DURING COVID. THAT'S THE ONE THING WE COULD MANAGE. WE DIDN'T WANT TO DEAL WITH CONTRACTORS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, SO WE PUT A SWIMMING POOL IN WHERE YOU SEE IT ON THAT SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE WE COULDN'T PUT THE POOL THERE BECAUSE OUR SEPTIC TANK AND OUR DRAIN FIELD WAS ON THAT SIDE, AND THAT WAS ALL PERMITTED THROUGH THE COUNTY. THERE'S A ROOM THAT IS FACING THE POOL WHICH WE THINK WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO BE SOME SORT OF PATIO BECAUSE IT HAS -- IF YOU SAW IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS, IT JUST HAS A TURN DOWN CONCRETE SLAB.
THE REST OF THE HOUSE, IT'S THE CORNER -- AND I GAVE YOU THE MEASUREMENTS ON THE DRAWING. SO COMING OFF THE CORNER, LIKE 20
>> AND 20 FEET TO THE EAST, IT'S JUST A TURN DOWN SLAB, BUT THE HOUSE IS -- THE ROOF AND EVERYTHING AND FRAME IS
CONSTRUCTED AS IF IT'S A HOUSE. >> OKAY.
>> SO THE REST OF THE HOUSE HAS AN ACTUAL COUNTY-COMPLIANT HOUSE
>> THERE WAS CARPETING IN THAT ROOM, AND THERE WAS A SMALL BATHROOM IN THERE. E WANT TO TAKE THAT -- IT'S A BATHROOM THAT -- IT'S, YOU KNOW, A REGULAR 30-INCH TUB, A TOILET AND A LAVATORY THIS WIDE. WE WERE TRYING TO TURN THAT INTO OUR MASTER BEDROOM, SO WE WANT TO REPLACE THE EXISTING BATH WITH A LARGER BATHROOM WITHOUT GIVING UP -- IF WE TRY TO PUT THAT INSIDE THAT FOUNDATION, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE OVER THERE FOR CLOSETS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE -- YOU KNOW, FOR CLOSET SPACE AND EVERYTHING. WE'D HAVE TO TAKE A LOT OF CLOSET SPACE AND TURN IT INTO A BATHROOM TO MAKE A DECENT SIZED BATHROOM. SO WE WANTED TO GO ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE. WHEN WE PULLED -- WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE, THERE WAS CARPETING THERE. WE PULLED THE CARPETING UP. THE FLOOR HAD SETTLED ABOUT 3/4 OF AN INCH IN THAT HOLE AREA, AND IT WAS ALL -- THERE WAS A BIG RADIUS CRACK IN THERE, AND IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS A TREE STUMP OR SOMETHING UNDER IT. THERE'S A LOT OF TREE STUMPS IN THE YARD. SO WE SPENT ABOUT $4,000 PUTTING SELF-LEVELING CONCRETE IN THERE TO BRING IT UP TO THE REST OF THE FLOOR, AND WE PULLED UP THE CARPET AND PUT TILE IN, AND THEN -- SORRY. I LOST MY TRAIN. AND A COUPLE OF YEARS LATER -- WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH THE SETTLEMENT. WE HIRED A CONTRACTOR WHO CAME IN AND PUT SCREW JACKS ALL THROUGH THAT CORNER. SO WE HAVE SCREW PILES, IN THAT CORNER OF THE HOUSE TO SUPPORT IT JUST TO KEEP IT FROM SETTLING FURTHER.
>> WHEN THE RED LIGHT FLASHES UP THERE --
>> SO WITH THE SPACE AVAILABLE -- SO WE'RE TRYING TO TURN THAT INTO OUR MASTER BEDROOM SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, ENJOY THE VIEW OUT TO THE POOL AND EVERYTHING ELSE. WE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO GO IN THERE AND START CUTTING UP THAT FLOOR AND LOSE ALL THE SPACE BECAUSE OF THE CONDITION, THAT WE JUST PREFERRED TO LEAVE IT ALONE. SO WE WANTED TO BUILD A BATHROOM ADDITION ON THE OUTSIDE BECAUSE -- AND THERE'S ALSO A PORCH ADDITION. IT'S IN OUR PLAN. WE'RE GOING TO DO A PORCH ACROSS THE BACK AND THE BATHROOM ON THE SIDE WHICH IS GOING TO COMPLETELY ENCAPSULATE THAT PORCH FOUNDATION AND REPLACE IT WITH A REGULAR HOUSE FOUNDATION. EVEN THE PORCH IS GOING TO BE A FULL HOUSE FOUNDATION. SO WE'RE KIND OF TRYING TO SOLVE THAT STRUCTURAL
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PROBLEM AND PREVENT ANY MORE SETTLEMENT. WITH THE BATHROOM LIGHT -- WITH THE 10-FOOT SETBACK, WE CAN GET A -- WE CAN GET A SIX-FOOT FROM FOUNDATION TO THE OUTER WALL OF THE BATHROOM ADDITION, WE CAN GET SIX FEET. I JUST TURNED 64 A MONTH AGO. WE WANT TO AGE IN PLACE IN THIS HOUSE, AND WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THE BATHROOM IS WE WANTED TO HAVE 36-INCH PASSAGES, 36-INCH CLEARANCE AROUND THE TOILETS, BASICALLY NOT A FULL A.D.A. COMPLIANT BATHROOM, BUT AT LEAST 36-INCH OPENINGS EVERYWHERE ELSE -->> SURE. >> -- SO IF THERE'S A CHANCE --
>> CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE. >> WE'RE SPENDING $300,000 ON THE UPGRADED HOUSE RIGHT NOW TO TRY TO MAKE IT OUR FOREVER HOME, AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A BATHROOM THAT WE COULD AGE IN PLACE AND IT WASN'T SUDDENLY GOING TO BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE WE
COULDN'T GET THROUGH THE DOOR. >> SURE.
>> SO ALL WE NEEDED TO GET TO THAT 36-INCH DIMENSION WITH THE LAYOUT OF THE BATHROOM IS WE NEED NINE INCHES.
>> YEAH, YEAH. >> WE HAVE AN EIGHT-FOOT FENCE BETWEEN OUR NEIGHBORS, THE ROUNDTREES, ON THAT SIDE. WE HAVE AN EIGHT-FOOT FENCE OP THE OTHER SIDE. WE HAVE A LOT OF PRIVACY ON THE OTHER SIDE. WE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS A BIG DEAL.
I DIDN'T BRING LETTERS, BUT ALL MY NEIGHBORS, NO ONE HAS ANY OBJECTION TO THIS. IT WAS REALLY JUST AN ISSUE OF TRYING TO
ACHIEVE AN ACCESSIBLE BATHROOM. >> RIGHT, RIGHT.
>> SO I APOLOGIZE. I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT THIS WASN'T GOING TO BE A BIG DEAL. BUT I GUESS IT IS.
MICROPHONE. >> THIS IS MY WIFE, HEATHER.
SHE'S NOT ON THE DEED, OTHERWISE SHE'D BEEN UP THERE.
>> SORRY. I'M HEATHER, HEATHER MARSH, HIS WIFE. ONE THING --
I'M SORRY. >> I HAVE TO SWEAR YOU IN. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AGAINST FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE, MA'AM?
>> HEATHER MARSH, OSPREY BLUFF. >> DO YOU SWEAR THAT EVERYTHING YOU STATE IS THE TRUTH SO HELP YOU GOD.
>> ABSOLUTELY, YES. >> GO AHEAD.
>> I'M NOT SURE HE MADE IT CLEAR, BUT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE HOME, IT WAS ACTUALLY A PATIO SLAB, NOT A HOUSE SLAB. SO YEARS AGO, THE COUNTY INSPECTOR OR SOMEONE LET THIS HAPPEN TO WHERE THERE WAS A ROOF PUT ON, THE BUILDING WAS ENCLOSED, THE PATIO BECAME A BEDROOM WITH A BATHROOM. AND NOW WE'RE TRYING TO FIX THAT. WE'VE DONE WHAT WE COULD TO FIX IT. LIKE HE SAID, WE SPENT FOUR GRAND ON LEVELING IT OUT, AND WE ALSO SPENT -- WHAT WAS IT, 12, 13, 14, $15,000 ON THE SCREWS?
>> SOMETHING THAT CAN ACTUALLY BE A LIVEABLE HOME AND NOT KEEP
>> SO NOW WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE SO WE CAN PUT IN A BATHROOM ON THE OUTSIDE, AND IT'S ONLY ONE SECTION OF IT. LIKE, MOST OF THE BATHROOM WOULD ACTUALLY FIT WITHIN THE CURRENT ZONING. IT'S ONLY -- I DON'T KNOW.
>> SORRY, WE BOTH WERE WORKING. HE WAS ACTUALLY IN THE TAMPA
AREA TODAY. >> WE CAN FOLLOW WHAT YOU'RE
>> IT'S OKAY. WE'RE BOTH ENGINEERS AND USED TO HAVING DRAWINGS AND BEING ABLE TO POINT TO THINGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
IT'S KIND OF AWKWARD THAT WE DON'T RIGHT NOW. BUT, ANYWAY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK FOR US IT'S JUST GOING TO MAKE THE HOME BETTER VALUE AND ALSO CORRECTING THE MISTAKES THAT WERE MADE IN THE PAST BEFORE WE ACTUALLY BOUGHT THE HOME. WE'VE HAD TO PUT A LOT INTO THIS. AND WE'RE JUST HOPING THAT YOU GUYS WILL GIVE US THE VARIANCE JUST TO BE ABLE TO PUT IN A PROPER
BATHROOM. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY
QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? >> NO.
TO -- G. ANYBODY HERE THAT WANT- >> YOU GOING TO WAKE SOMEBODY
UP? >> YOU WANT TO COME AND TALK
ABOUT THIS? >> NO. OKAY. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IS THE ONLY PERSON
HERE. OKAY. QUESTIONS TO -- >> WELL, I JUST SAY I CAN UNDERSTAND NOT WANTING TO MESS WITH THAT SLAB. IN FACT, I WAS LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL HOUSE LAST WEEK, PATIO, SAME TYPE OF THING, PATIO THAT HAD BEEN CLOSED IN, BUT THE FOUNDATION ALONG THE EDGES WAS EVIDENTLY FINE BECAUSE THE WALLS AND THE ROOF WERE FINE. BUT THE SLAB WAS LIKE THIS, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE STEPS, BIG GAP LIKE THIS. AND IF YOU'VE GOT IT SUPPORTED AND, YOU KNOW, HAD WHOEVER GO IN AND FIX THAT, I WOULD NOT WANT TO MESS WITH THAT SLAB AGAIN BY DOING ANYTHING ELSE. SO THE IDEA OF KEEPING -- YOU KNOW, MAKING THE BATHROOM A LITTLE WIDER TO
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KEEP AWAY FROM DOING THAT TO ME IS A GOOD THING. AND ON THAT NOTE, I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE 17.>> THIS IS 17. 25-0017. OKAY. >> AS SUBMITTED.
>> DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> I WOULD SECOND.
>> I HAVE A SECOND FOR APPROVAL. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> >> AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.
PASSED 4-0. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> COULD I ASK YOU GUYS TO HANG ON? I GOT A QUESTION THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR HOUSE, BUT YOU CAN HELP ME.
>> HE LIVES ACROSS THE CREEK. >> I FIGURED AS MUCH. I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHERE YOU LIVE BECAUSE WE'RE PROBABLY ALWAYS LOOKING AT YOUR HOUSE FROM OUR DOCK.
>> COMMUNITY DOCK. >> I'M NOT ON THE WATER.
>> IF YOU GO DOWN SWIMMING PEN DRIVE, I'M THE LAST HOUSE ON THE RIGHT, TWO STORY, CEDAR FRONT, WEIRD LOOKING HOUSE,
WEIRD SHAPE. >> WE'RE GOOD. WE SAVE LIKE $600,000 ON THE PRICE OF OUR HOUSE BY NOT BEING ON THE WATER, SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY. THANK YOU. I REALIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS -- THIS WAS A LIFT FOR YOU GUYS, AND I'M VERY PLEASANTLY SURPRISED AND REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS ARE SUPPORTING US.
WE ARE INVESTING. WE LOVE IT HERE. WE LOVE OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'RE INVESTING ALL WE HAVE TO GET THIS HOUSE TO BE ONE OF THE NICER NEIGHBORHOODS. ONE OF THE WORST LOOKING HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO BE THE BEST WHEN WE'RE DONE.
>> SAW YOUR DRIVEWAY. >> YOU SAW IT? YEAH, THAT'S THE
BEGINNING. >> IF YOU WOULD JUST HANG TIGHT
TWO MINUTES. >> THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
>> JENNI , DO WE HAVE A MEETING SET FOR JANUARY?
>> HEARING. SEEING NOBODY, I AM CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME OF THAT. DO WE HAVE APPLICATIONS?
>> I HAVE NOT RECEIVED AN APPLICATION, SIR.
>> OKAY. >> BRANDON IS NOW NO LONGER ON
OUR BOARD. >> WE'RE WORKING ON IT.
>> GETTING HIM BACK OR WHAT? >> NO. WE'RE WORKING ON --
>> GETTING SOMEBODY NEW? OKAY. WHAT IS OUR PROTOCOL? DO WE SEND A THANK YOU LETTER, DO WE SEND A PLAQUE, WHAT DO WE DO?
>> HE WASN'T HERE VERY LONG. H NEVER GOT OUT OF HIS ROOKIE
>> WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO, CHAIR?
>> I DON'T KNOW. WE'VE GONE THROUGH 1,000 PEOPLE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS. DO WE SEND A THANK YOU, A LETTER OF APPRECITION OR YOU SERVED FROM THIS DAY TO THAT DAY, AND THEY CAN FRAME IT IF
THEY WANT TO? >> WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AND
HAVE EVERYBODY SIGN IT. >> LET'S DO THAT. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY THAT VOLUNTEERS TO BE ON THIS BOARD, YOU KNOW, AND WE APPRECIATE OUR STAFF TOO, SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE SOMETHING --
>> IT'S THE TIME OF DAY. IT KNOWS I'M IN A HEARING.
>> IT'S CALLED NIGHTTIMERS. OKAY. WELL, LET US KNOW WHENEVER OUR NEXT MEETING IS, AND
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.