Nov 25, 2025 BCC Agenda

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>> OKAY, WE HAVE OUR TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES SOLVED, SO WE APOLOGIZE FOR BEING 2 MINUTES OVER. IF YOU'LL JOIN US FOR THE INVOCATION BY COMMISSIONER

SGROMOLO. >> PLEASE JOIN ME IN PRAYER.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS AFTERNOON WITH GRATITUDE IN OUR HEARTS DURING THIS SEASON OF THANKSGIVING. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER AND SERVE THE PEOPLE OF CLAY COUNTY.

I GIVE THANKS FOR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.

EACH OF THESE FOUR LEADERS ON THIS DIAS WHO WORK TIRELESSLY IN SUPPORT OF OUR COMMITTEE. I ALSO LIFT UP OUR COUNTY STAFF WHOSE COMMITMENT KEEPS OUR COUNTY RUNNING SMOOTHLY DAY AFTER DAY. LORD, WE'RE ESPECIALLY GRATEFUL FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRE RESCUE AND OUR ARMS FORCES. WHILE MANY OF US WILL SPEND TIME WITH FAMILY OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS WITH FRIENDS AND EATING DELICIOUS FOOD AND ENJOYING SOME BACKYARD FOOTBALL, THERE ARE MEN AND WOMEN AT HOME AND ABROAD WHO WILL BE STANDING WATCH THIS THANKSGIVING.

PLEASE BE WITH THEM AND BLESS THEIR SAFETY AS WE'RE FOREVER GRATEFUL FOR THEIR SERVICE AND SACRIFICE THAT PROTECT OUR FREEDOMS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY THE SAFETY AT HOME.

MAY WE APPROACH THIS AFTERNOON'S WORK WITH CLARITY, RESPECT, AND WISDOM SO THAT OUR DECISIONS HONOR THOSE WHO PLACE THEIR TRUST IN US. IN YOUR HEAVENLY NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.

>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, OUR VETERAN LED PLEDGE THIS AFTERNOON IS U.S.

ARMY SPECIALIST ASHLEY GILLMORE. ASHLEY IS LEADING TODAY'S PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FOR US, BUT SHE SERVED MORE THAN THREE YEARS IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY STATIONED AT FORT HOOD, TEXAS WITH THE THIRD ALMA CORE WITH ALPHA COMPANY. THROUGHOUT HER SERVICE SHE LEARNED THAT NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE OR WHAT YOUR MISSION MAY BE, YOU START AS A TEAM AND YOU FINISH AS A TEAM, SUPPORTING AND ENCOURAGING ONE ANOTHER UNTIL THE JOB IS DONE. HER FAVORITE PART OF MILITARY LIFE WAS THE FRIENDSHIP SHE FORMED, BONDS THAT GREW INTO A FAMILY. NOW A RESIDENT OF GREEN COAST SPRINGS, SHE CONTINUES HER DIDICATION TO SERVICE AS THE PERSONNEL BUSINESS PARTNER WITH THE CLAY BCC PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR NATION AND OUR COUNTY. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

IF YOU'LL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. I REALLY ENJOYED WORKING HERE AT THE BCC, ESPECIALLY AT THE PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT I'VE BEEN GIVEN.

>> I THINK IT'S AWESOME THAT ALL YOUR TEAMMATES CAME TO CHEER YOU ON. I WILL NOW CALL TO

[CALL TO ORDER]

[PET ADOPTIONS]

CHARMLESSLY PLAYFUL AND ENDLESSLY INDEARING CRANBERY WINS HEARTS IN SECONDS. OUR NEXT ANIMAL IS RUPUNSAL.

SHE'S THE ATHLETIC BRIDE EYED GERMAN SHEPHERD EQUAL PARTS CUDDLE BUG. SHE'S GOT THE SWEETNESS OF A SOFTY AND A PERSONALITY THAT LIGHTS UP EVERY ROOM SHE ENTERS. LOYAL, LIVELY, AND FULL OF SPARKLE RAPUNSAL IS READY TO BRING JOY TO EVERY ANIMAL YOU SHARE. DON'T LET THIS CUDLER FOOL YOU, HE'S IN NEED OF A LOVE AND WELCOMING HOME.

HE'S TRULY A SWEET KITTEN WHO NEEDS SOME TIME TO BREAK THE ICE AND MELT INTO YOUR LAP. HE PERS UP A STORM WHEN COMFORTABLE AND CONTINUE TO SERENADE YOU WITH HIS VOICE.

ALL IT TAKES IS A LITTLE LOVE FOR HIM TO COME

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DOZER FULL OF ENERGY AND A HEART FULL OF JOY. HE'S LOOKING FOR AN ACTIVE YARD TO ZOOM IN AND PEOPLE TO CALL HIS OWN.

DOZER IS THE PERFECT, UPBEAT COMPANION.

HE'S ALSO INCREDIBLY LOVING AND SMART. SO WHAT ARE YOU READY FOR, COME MEET DOZER. FROM WAGGING TAILS TO PURRING KITTIES, WE'VE GOT THE PERFECT COMPANION JUST FOR YOU.

WANT TO SEE WHO'S AVAILABLE, HEAD OVER TO OUR WEBSITE AND MEET OUR ADORABLE CREW LOOKING FOR THEIR FOREVER HOMES.

GOT QUESTIONS, DROP US A LINE AT CLAYADOPTIONS AT CLAYCOUNTYGOV. COM AND LET'S CHAT.

IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN HELPING OUR FURRY FRIENDS BUT CAN'T BRING ONE HOME, TAKE A LOOK AT OUR AMAZON WISH LIST. WE'RE ALWAYS IN NEED OF

[Aging True Update]

>> THANKS FOR FILLING IN. ALL RIGHT, NOW WE ARE AT OUR PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVE AN UPDATE TODAY FROM AGING

TRUE. >> AS SAM'S COMING UP, IF I MAY, CHAIR, I THINK HE'S GOT AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO MAKE, AND IF HE DOESN'T MAKE IT, I'M GOING TO PREEMPT HIM IN MAKING IT.

TERRY AS YOU KNOW FROM AGING TRUE HAS RETIRED ANDAND HAS ASSUMED THE ROLE AS COO FOR AGING TRUE. SO I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT BEFORE HE MAKES HIS

PRESENTATIONS. >>

CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER CONDON. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. AGING TRUE IS NOW IN OUR SIXTH YEAR IN THE COUNTY AND WE'RE EXCITED AND PRIVILEGED TO SERVE THE SENIORS HERE.

TROY'S TEAM AND OUR TEAM HAVE BEEN WORKING COLLABORATIVELY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS TO ADDRESS AND PROVIDE MORE MEALS TO SENIORS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. AS YOU MAY KNOW WE OPERATE THE FOUR SENIOR CENTERS IN MIDDLEBURG, KEYSTONE HEIST, GREEN COAST SPRINGS, AND COLLEGE PARK.

AND THERE IS A WEIGHT LIST OF SENIORS, APPROXIMATELY 400 THAT NEED ADDITIONAL MEALS. AND WE HAVE A PLAN TROY AND HIS TEAM HAVE BEEN WORKING TO ADDRESS THAT.

ONE THING THAT IS NEW OUR CEO, THERESA BARTON, ONE OF HER LAST ACTIVITIES WAS TO TRY TO GET AN LBR, LEGISLATIVE BUDGET REQUEST THROUGH FOR $250,000 SPECIFICALLY FOR MEALS FOR SENIORS HERE IN CLAY COUNTY.

AND WE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING SPONSORSHIP FROM SENATOR BRADLEY IN THE SENATE AND REPRESENTATIVE SAFF IN THE HOUSE AS WELL AS SUPPORT AS WELL.

WE BELIEVE IN THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS THAT WILL COME TO PASS. AND WHAT TROY AND I AS WELL AS CRISTA MARTIN, WHO IS WITH ME, SHE IS OUR SENIOR LEADER HERE IN CLAY COUNTY -- HOPE TO ACHIEVE IS TO BEGIN TO BUILD AN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL ALLOW VOLUNTEERS TO ASSIST US IN DELIVERING THESE MEALS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ENCOUNTERED IS THAT WE HAVE THREE ROUTES THAT WE RUN EVERY DAY, AND WE DELIVER 75 MEALS TO SENIORS THROUGHOUT CLAY COUNTY, AND OUR ROUTES HAVE MAXED OUT. AND WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO ADD TO THAT. WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THROUGHOUT OUR FOUR SENIOR CENTERS THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE VOLUNTEERS LIKE WE DO IN DUVAL TO BEGIN DELIVERING THOSE MEALS. SO OUR NEXT PROJECT IS TO START WITH A BETA TEST AT THE GREEN COAST SPRINGS FACILITY HOPEFULLY AS EARLY AS FEBRUARY WHERE WE HAVE IDENTIFIED FIVE ROUTES OF FOUR MEALS EACH THAT VOLUNTEERS WOULD BE SCHEDULED TO DELIVER THOSE AND DELIVERED BY OUR ROUTING STAFF.

SO WE'RE HOPEFUL. WE'VE HAD A COUPLE MEETINGS ALREADY WITH TROY AND SOME OF THE COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES TO IDENTIFY VOLUNTEERS. AND TO DATE WE HAVE ABOUT 12 VINYLS WHO HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR INTERESTS.

WE'RE HOPEFUL TO HAVE 45 TO 50 INDIVIDUALS WHO SUBMIT INTERESTS BECAUSE TYPICALLY ONLY HALF OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO SUBMIT ACTUALLY COME THROUGH AND PASS THE BACKGROUND SCREENING.

WE ALSO HAVE THE ELEMENT OF SCHEDULING.

THIS WOULD REQUIRE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AVAILABILITY TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER THOSE MEALS BECAUSE ONCE WE TAKE THEM OFF OF OUR PAY ROUTES WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE FOLKS GET THEIR MEALS EACH AND EVERY DAY.

WE ALSO LOOK TO IDENTIFY A VOLUNTEER WHO WILL BE BASED OUT OF OUR GREEN COAST SENIOR CENTER WORKING BETWEEN 10:00 A.M. AND 2:00 P.M. EACH DAY TO COORDINATE THE VOLUNTEERS. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE

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WE HOPE THAT THAT WILL BE A TEMPLATE. ULTIMATELY, WHEN WE GET THE LBR RECEIVED, WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE EACH OF THE FOUR SENIOR CENTERS TO BE A FOCAL POINT WHERE VOLUNTEERS WILL COME IN AND HELP DELIVER THOSE MEALS.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> QUESTIONS. GO AHEAD.

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>> HAVE ACTUALLY FINALIZED. SO THERE'S A BACKGROUND SCREENING PROCESS AND THERE'S ALSO AN AVAILABILITY PROCESS. SO ONCE THEY FIND OUT THAT THEY HAVE TO COMMIT TO EITHER EVERY MONDAY TO DELIVER ON AN ONGOING

BASIS. >> OTHER QUESTIONS? I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.

I KNOW THERE'S A REAL NEED. I HAD A CALL FROM A HOME HEALTH COMPANY THAT THEY HAVE A CLIENT, I GUESS, WHO'S HOMEBOUND AND SHE CALLED TO SIGN UP FOR SERVICES, AND THEY TOLD HER SHE WASN'T ELIGIBLE, SO A NEIGHBOR BRINGS HER FOOD, BUT THAT'S NOT CONSISTENT.

AND SO I KNOW THERE'S A REAL NEED. THAT WAS JUST ONE I TALKED TO THIS WEEK, BUT I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'RE DOING TO TRY TO GET THAT DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE FOR

US. >> THANK YOU.

AND IT'S A COMBINED EFFORT. AND WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THE CHURCHES IN THE AREA WILL ALSO PROVIDE THE AVAILABILITY OF VOLUNTEERS, AND SO WE'RE WORKING WITH MANY DIFFERENT REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COMMUNITY.

AND WITH THAT COMBINED EFFORT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET TO THE NECESSARY NUMBERS THAT WE NEED.

>> AND SAM, HOW MANY SENIORS DO WE SERVE WITH MEALS AT THE CENTERS? DO YOU KNOW?

>> YES, TYPICALLY 250 EACH DAY ON AVERAGE. NO, COMBINED. NO WEAN THE FOUR CENTERS IT AVERAGES 50 TO 65 PER DAY.

>> SAM, YOU SAID YOU NEED A VOLUNTEER BETWEEN 10:00 AND 2:00. IS THAT EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK?

>> THAT WOULD BE. BECAUSE ONCE WE MOVE THESE MEALS OFF OF OUR ROUTES, IT'S LIKE A ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE WOULD NEED SOMEONE WHO'S THERE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 10:00 TO 2:00 BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE A CADRE OF VOLUNTEERS PROBABLY 40 TO 45. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY WORK EACH DAY.

SOME PEOPLE COMMIT TUESDAY, THURSDAY.

AND IF SOMEONE WERE TO CALL OFF UNEXPECTEDLY ON A DAY, THEN THAT PERSON FILLS IN AND GETS THOSE MEALS

THERE. >> DEFINITELY ONE PERSON THAT YOU NEED IS GOING TO HAVE TO DO

THAT. >> YES.

IDEALLY, COMMISSIONER BURKE, THERE WOULD BE THAT PERSON PLUS A BACKUP.

>> ARE WE USING ANY OF -- I KNOW JASON HAS -- THERE'S JASON -- HAS SOME OF THE CHURCHES THAT HAVE HELPED IN, LIKE, A HURRICANE SITUATION. ARE WE USING ANY OF THOSE TO COORDINATE VOLUNTEERS, OR WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR YET?

>> I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE GOTTEN THAT FAR.

ALTHOUGH FROM OUR INITIAL MEETING WE HAD ONE OF THE LEADERS FROM THE CATHOLIC CHURCHES.

IT'S HOPEFUL EACH MONTH OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL WE BEGIN TO GAIN MORE AND MORE PARTICIPANTS, MORE AND MORE INFORMATION IS DISSEMINATED, AND HOPEFULLY TWO YEARS FROM NOW WE HOPE TO HAVE SEARCH PUNTS. AND I BELIEVE ONCE THE LBR COMES IN, THE SENIOR CENTERS WON'T BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY COVERAGE. WE WILL PROBABLY NEED TWO VERY LARGE CHURCHES POSITIONED STRATEGICALLY THAT ALSO BECOME AS WELL. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE SEEN AGAIN IN DUVAL, THE CHURCHES ARE THE BEST PLACE BECAUSE THEY HAVE BUILT IN VOLUNTEERS, THOSE FOLKS COMMITTED. AND THE MEAL SERVICE IS CONSIST WITH THEIR SPIRITUAL MISSION.

THAT WAY WE USUALLY GET THEIR LEADERSHIP BY THEN, AND VERY

COMMITTED TO DOING IT. >> FOR THE CHAIR, INITIALLY WHEN WE STARTED TALKING WE BROUGHT IN FIVE OR SIX PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE THOSE CONNECTIONS THROUGH, SO JENNIFER KNIGHT WHO RUNS THE SOUP KITCHEN, BRIAN KNIGHT'S WIFE, WE BROUGHT HER IN.

JACK'S HERE WHO USED TO BE THE FORMER CEO OF BOY SCOUTS AND CONNECTED TO THESE LOCAL NONPROFITS.

WE BROUGHT HIM TO THE TABLE. WE BROUGHT CHALLENGE ENTERPRISES. WE BROUGHT SOMEBODY FROM ERIC SAK'S OFFICE IN. SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING OVER THE LAST -- PROBABLY LAST MONTH OR TWO TO KIND OF HEY IS THIS FEASIBLE? DO WE THINK WE CAN MAKE THIS WORK IN CLAY COUNTY THE WAY WE DO IN DUVAL? AND THEN WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR A COORDINATOR IN KEYSTONE AND MIDDLEBERG AND ORANGE PARK.

>> BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING TO MORE

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SENIORS. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> AND IT'S A REAL NEED.

>> I WAS GLAD TO SEE THE OAKLEY LIBRARY IS GOING TO HAVE MEALS FOR PEOPLE OUT THERE.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS SAM AND I TALKED ABOUT THERE IS WE SERVED 150 SENIOR CENTERS TODAY.

WE KNOW WE HAVE A WAITING LISTF OVER 400, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAT WANT THE MEALS, BUT THEY KNOW THE LIST IS ALREADY AT 400. THEY'VE STOPPED CALLING AND ASKING.

SO THAT LIST COULD EASILY BE 600, 700 PEOPLE.

SO THERE DEFINITELY IS A NEED.

AND WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING, THE NEED IS FOUGHT ISOLATED TO ONE AREA OF THE COUNTY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP OF PEOPLE ON THEIR LIST, THERE'S PEOPLE IN OAK LEAF, ORANGE PARK, IN ASBURY. HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONTINUE TO BUILD IT OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AND EXPAND TO OTHER AREAS.

>> THIS IS NOT INCOME BASED. THERE'S A NEED THROUGHOUT ALL THE COMMUNITIES HERE IN CLAY BECAUSE WE HAVE LIMITED MOBILITY AND THEY'RE

ISOLATED. >> I'VE HAD SENIORS TELL ME IT'S LIFE CHANGING TO HAVE ONE LESS THING TO THINK ABOUT FIVE DAYS A WEEK TO HAVE ONE HOT MEAL THAT THEY STRETCH. BUT AT ANY RATE I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING. IF YOU HAVE A FLYER OR ANYTHING WHEN YOU GET TO THAT POINT, SHARE IT WITH US.

WE ALL HAVE BIG SOCIAL MEDIA REACHES AND WE'RE HAPPY TO PUSH IT OUT.

>> WELL, WE'RE GRATEFUL TO TROY AND HOWARD AND THEIR SISTANTS AND THEIR STAFF, SO WE WILL KEEP YOU POSTED AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> I DON'T THINK YOU WERE AROUND BUT I'VE TOLD THIS MANY TIMES. MY IN- LAWS WERE GETTING MEALS SENT TO THEM WHEN THEY WERE AT HOME, AND THEY WERE HAVING A ROUGH TIME AND ONE OF THEM HAD GONE TO THE HOSPITAL AND THE OTHER ONE WENT WITH ANOTHER FAMILY MEMBER.

BUT THE PERSON CAME AND THEY ACTUALLY CALLED BECAUSE THEY SAID NOBODY'S HERE, THERE MUST BE SOMETHING WRONG. SO IT WAS MORE THAN JUST A MEAL DELIVERY, IT WAS ACTUALLY CHECKING ON THEM.

AND THEY GOT TO KNOW THEM, SO WE WERE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT SERVICE FOR THEM.

>> CHAIR, COMMISSIONER BURKE, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS OUR CEO SAYS IT'S MORE THAN A MEAL.

OFTENTIMES IT'S MORE THAN JUST THAT.

IT'S A SAFETY CHECK, A WELLNESS CHECK, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THAN IT'S HUMAN CONTACT FOR INDIVIDUALS THESE FOLKS ARE ISOLATED AND IT HAS A PRESSING IMPACT UPON THEM.

AND WE BELIEVE HERE ALSO IN THE CLAY COUNTY THAT THE NEIGHBORS WILL BE GREAT AT ENCOURAGING THEIR NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THEY ARE SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THIS GOING AND GET SOME MOMENTUM. BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING.

ALL RIGHT, CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS.

I DID NOT SEE ANY IN THE AUDIENCE, AND OUR CLERK OF THE COURT AND COMPTROLLER

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

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>> ALL RIGHT. APPROVAL OF

MINUTES. >> I'D LIKE TO APPROVE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER MEETING MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 10TH.

>> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RENINGER EVEN THOUGH HE DIDN'T HAVE HIS MICROPHONE ON AND A SECOND

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

MOTION CARRIES 5-0. WE'RE NOW TO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. I DO NOT HAVE ANY CARDS TODAY, BUT THIS IS TO ALLOW CITIZENS TO BRING MATTERS TO THE BOARD. AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL NOT ENGAGE, DEBATE, OR ANSWER QUESTIONS. YOU MAY E- MAIL ASK CLAY AT CLAYCOUNTYGOV. COM OR E- MAIL YOUR COMMISSIONER. PUBLIC COUNTY CARDS ARE PLACED AT THE ENTRANCE AND SHOULD IMMEDIATELY BE SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK AT THE FAR LEFT OF THE DAIS. WE ASK YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS NOW OPEN. IS THERE ANYONE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO US? COME

ON UP. >> HELLY.

MY NAME IS JACOB. I LIVE AT 207 EVERGREEN LANE.

THEY'RE DOING A SIDEWALK PROJECT IN THE GREENWOOD DEVELOPMENT, AND I'VE SEEN SOME ISSUES, MY HOUSE IN PARTICULAR.

AND I'VE GOTTEN MIXED THINGS FROM MANY PEOPLE FROM THE COUNTY OF WHERE THE ACTUAL LANDMARK IS.

BUT AS FAR AS THE SIDEWALK AND HOW HIGH THEY'RE GOING UP, IT'S STILL CLOSE TO THE HOUSE THAT EVEN MY TRUCK PARKED ALL THE WAY UP TO THE FENCE IS GOING TO BE ON THE SIDEWALK.

SO I'M WORRIED ABOUT GETTING PARKING TICKETS LATER ON IN THE FUTURE OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT. AND FROM WHERE THE SIDEWALK

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AND I'M BEING TOLD NOW IT'S 40, SO I'M JUST KIND OF CONFUSED. LIKE I SAID, MY MAIN WORRY IS I HAVE KIDS. I'M ABOUT TO GO ON DEPLOYMENT OR TO BASIC TRAINING, SO IT'S JUST GOING TO BE MY WIFE AND MY TWO KIDS THERE, AND SO IT'S 10 FEET AWAY FROM MY FRONT DOOR AND PEOPLE CAN CLEARLY SEE RIGHT THROUGH MY HOUSE WITH AS CLOSE AS THE SIDEWALK IS TO THE HOUSE. FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD IT'S A LOT CLOSER TO THE ROAD, AND I'M ALL FOR THE SIDEWALK GOING IN FOR THE KIDS BECAUSE THERE'S A SCHOOL NEARBY. AND FOR US THAT WALK WITH OUR KIDS DOWN THE ROAD AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

I JUST DON'T AGREE WITH HOW CLOSE IT IS.

BECAUSE LIKE I SAID AS FAR AS THE PARKING TICKETS FOR BLOCKING THE SIDEWALK AND PRIVACY AIR OF EVERYTHING. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAD AS FAR AS THAT PROJECT GOING ON.

>> OKAY, THANKS. HOWARD, IS THERE ANYONE THAT CAN --

>> I DON'T MIND RUNNING IT.

>> THAT'S OKAY. THE TIMER ASPECT OF IT, MADAM CHAIR IF I MAY RECALL. THE TIMER ASPECT --

>> OH, I WASN'T WORRIED ABOUT THE TIME.

I WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE SIDEWALK.

>> AND ON THE SIDEWALK ISSUE WHICH I WAS ABOUT TO SAY, RICHARD WILL MEET YOU IN THE BACK, SIR, TO TALK TO YOU.

HE'S OUR COUNTY ENGINEER. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS. EDWARD, WERE YOU INVOLVED IN IT OR JUST RICHRD? HE'LL MEET YOU IN THE BACK TO TALK ABOUT IT.

>> I'M ACTUALLY YOUR COMMISSIONER, SO NICE TO MEET YOU. THANKS FOR COMING, BUT WE DO WANT TO RESOLVE THAT.

ANYWAY, HOPEFULLY STAFF CAN RESOLVE IT FOR YOU, BUT THANKS FOR COMING THIS AFTERNOON, AND THANKS FOR SERVING OUR COUNTRY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WHAT SERVICE?

>> ARMY RESERVES, YES, SIR.

>> GOOD LUCK. ALL RIGHT, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT PUBLIC COMMENT? COME ON

UP. >> I'M PAMELA HENRY I'M A RESIDENT. WHAT IS MY ADDRESS? IT'S THAT BUTTON THERE ON THE PHONE.

2080 SOUTH 16TH A. WE HAD A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION ABOUT THE TRAFFICKING IN CLAY COUNTY. HE BROUGHT UP SOME PROBLEMS WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THE A.I. , WITH THE SAME GENTLEMAN THAT JUST LOST HIS LIFE BECAUSE OF BEING HELD CAPTIVE. THEY A.I. 'D HIS FACE ON A BODY, HAD HIM SEND A PICTURE AND BLACKMAILED HIM UNTIL HE COMMITTED SUICIDE, AND IT IS A VERY COMMON PROBLEM FROM WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN WAS JUST SHARING WITH US. WE DON'T HAVE ANY EDUCATION LIKE THAT HAPPENING. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT'S A SCHOOL BOARD THING. I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE IT MAYBE IT SHOULD BE SEPARATE FROM OTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITIES AND STUFF, SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY PLEASE INCLUDE SOME EDUCATION TO OUR KIDS SO THAT THEY CAN KNOW THAT THESE VERY BEGINNINGS OF THESE CONVERSATIONS HOW TO PROCESS THROUGH THEM SO THEY DON'T END UP LIKE THAT.

>> THANK YOU. IF BOTH OF YOU WILL GET A CARD AND FILL IT OUT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR US, FOR OUR RECORD.

YOU HAVE YOUR CARD, OKAY. AND IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY, MA'AM, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. WE ACTUALLY HAD -- HAD SOMEONE SAY SOMETHING AT ONE OF OUR MEETINGS ABOUT OUR SHERIFF THAT WAS NOT CORRECT BECAUSE OF SOMETHING SHE SAW ON A.I. , SO IT'S REALLY NOT JUST THE KIDS. IT'S REALLY ALL GENERATION AND HOW A.I. CAN CHANGE -- CAN CHANGE WHAT SOMEONE SAYS. ALWAYS DOUBLE- CHECK AND TRIPLE CHECK YOUR SOURCES. RICHARD, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE

[CONSENT AGENDA]

IS THERE ANYTHING ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO PULL FOR DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A

MOTION. >> I'D LIKE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 2 THROUGH

9. >>

SECOND. >> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

[10.  FY25 Grants Department End of Year Report]

WE ARE NOW TO OUR DISCUSSIONS AND UPDATES.

ITEM NUMBER 10, FY 25 GRANTS DEPARTMENT YEAR END REPORT BY MEGAN.

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>> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. MEGAN COVEY WITH THE GRAPTS DEPARTMENT. WE REPORT BACK EACH YEAR HOW THE DEPARTMENT DID AND THE ROI FOR THE COUNTY.

YOU CAN SEE IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL YEAR FOR THE DEPARTMENT, BUT WE DID HAVE SOME NEW CHALLENGES RELATED TO CURRENT EVENTS.

SO THESE WERE ALL AREAS THAT DID IMPACT THE GRANT LANDSCAPE THIS YEAR. WE SAW AN OVERALL TIGHTENING OF GOVERNMENT FUNDS AT BOTH THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL.

PRESIDENTIAL EXECUTIVE ORDERS MADE SOME CHANGES TO FEDERAL GRANT PROGRAMS. WE JUST WENT THROUGH THE RECENT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN, WHICH HAD SOME OF OUR GRANT AGREEMENTS CAUGHT UP IN IT. AND WE ALSO HAD THE ADDED RESPONSIBILITY OF FINANCIAL RECOVERY FOR THE THREE HURRICANES WE HAD LAST FALL.

SO I THINK YOU'LL SEE, AS WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, THAT OUR BIGGEST IMPACT WAS A GENERAL SLOW DOWN IN THE TIMING OF PROCESSING GRANT PAPERWORK BUT NOT NECESSARILY A REDUCTION IN THE FUNDING FOR THE COUNTY, SO WE'LL LOOK AT THAT MORE. LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT THE VALUE OF GRANTS LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE HAD APPROXIMATELY $11.

7 MILLION IN NEW AWARDS, $17. 2 MILLION IN REIMBURSEMENTS, WHICH IS OUR CASH FLOW. AND THAT GAVE US A TOTAL OF $28. 9 MILLION IN GRANT ACTIVITY.

OTHER MEASURES USED TO LOOK AT THE DEPARTMENT, NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED. WE COMPLETED 78 GRANT APPLICATIONS, MANAGED 121 GRANT AGREEMENTS AND SUBMITTED OVER 1,000 GRANT REPORTING TASKS. THIS IS THAT PENDING WORK FLOW THAT I WAS ALLUDING TO EARLIER.

SO THESE ARE ALL THINGS IN PROCESS THAT I THINK WE WILL STILL SEE BECOME GRANT AGREEMENTS. OUR HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT PROGRAM WE HAVE ABOUT $4 MILLION PENDING IN.

THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT ACTUALLY RESULTED FROM THE THREE HURRICANES. WE HAD ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO GET MITIGATION DOLLARS.

OUR OTHER FEDERAL FUNDING AGREEMENTS ON THE SECOND LINE THAT INCLUDES CDBG GRANT AGREEMENT FOR THE NEW FISCAL YEAR.

SO NOW THAT HUD HAS REOPENED WE EXPECT TO SEE THAT SOON, AND WE ALSO ACCEPTED OUR NEW SAFER AWARD. AND FEMA ALTERNATE PROJECT FUNDING, THIS IS THE COST ESTIMATE FOR WHAT WE EXPECT TO RECEIVE FOR STATION 24. THIS HAS BEEN AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, AND ACTUALLY THE PUBLIC COMMENTPERIOD WILL END THIS WEEK FOR THAT PROJECT, SO WE EXPECT TO SEE THOSE FUNDS OBLIGATED SHORTLY. WE'RE ALSO FINALIZING THE SCOPE OF WORK AND CONTRACTS FOR OUR FY 26 STATE LEGISLATIVE AGREEMENTS, AND WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY $33. 6 MILLION IN FDOT PROJECTS.

AND THIS ALL COMES FROM THE COUNTY'S TPO LIST. $21 MILLION OF THAT IS SPECIFICALLY TO COMPLETE THE NORTH EAST FLOOD TRAIL WHICH WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.

PIVOTING TO LOOK AT SPONSORSHIPS. WE HAD OVER $1. 5 MILLION IN SPONSORSHIP ACTIVITY. THE LARGEST SPAWNERSHIP OF COURSE WAS OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH LMU FOR THE SERVICES FACILITY. OTHER CASH SPONSORSHIPS INCLUDED SUPPORT FOR ANIMAL SERVICES, OUR LIBRARY'S BABY BOOKWORM PROGRAM, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND ALSO IN KIND DONATIONS. WE HAD 45 MILES ADOPTED THROUGH OUR ADOPT A MILE AND SPOT AGREEMENT PROGRAM. ADDITIONALLY WE HAD $59,000 IN IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR PARKS THAT WERE SPONSORED BY THE ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION. SO THESE TWO IMPROVEMENTS AT ARMSTRONG PARK WERE IN KIND DONATIONS THROUGH THE FLEMING ISLAND ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION.

THESE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS ENGAGED IN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. LAST FALL WE DID ENTER INTO A LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF GREEN COVE SPRINGS.

UNDER THAT AGREEMENT WE WERE ABLE TO RECEIVE TEN APPLICATIONS. THE CITY HAS RECEIVED $250,000 TO DATE FOR THOSE APPLICATIONS. OF COURSE MANY OF THEM ARE STILL UNDER REVIEW, BUT THE CITY WAS ALSO ABLE TO REIMBURSE COUNTY STAFF FOR THOSE SERVICES. SO THAT WAS A VERY POSITIVE WIN- WIN PARTNERSHIP FOR BOTH OF US.

OTHER THINGS WE'RE ENGAGED IN, SUPPORTING OUR NONPROFITS, SUPPORTING THE EFFORTS OF CLAY DAY, OUR CONSTITUTIONALES, STAYING ENGAGE WOULD THE NORTH EAST FLORIDA REGIONAL COUNCIL,

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ÚSO THE BOTTOM LINE OUR SPEND FOR THE DEPARTMENT WAS JUST UNDER A MILLION DOLLARS, AND TOTAL REVENUE ACTIVITY WAS ABOUT $30. 5 MILLION. SO THAT PUTS US AT A 31 TO 1 ROI FOR FY 25. AND THAT'S NOT JUST THE BCC'S ROI ON THE DEPARTMENT BUT ALSO THE ROI TO THE TAXPAYER.

THE DEPARTMENT'S GOAL IS ALWAYS TO LOOK FOR THOSE ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF FUNDING TO SUPPORT OUR OPERATIONS AND ALSO CAPITAL PROJECTS TO KEEP PROJECTS MOVING WITHOUT IMPACTING THE TAX BASE.

SO THAT IS THE REPORT AND SUMMARY.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> OKAY, QUESTIONS FOR MEGAN? COMMISSIONER

RENNINGER. >> I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION BUT A COMMENT. TEN YEARS AGO I WAS INVOLVED WITH THE VOLKSWAGEN AUTOMOBILE MANUFACTURER OF AMERICA. THEY MISREPRESENTED THEIR DIESEL MILEAGE, AND THEY WERE FINED A MERE $14. 7 BILLION, AND THAT MONEY WENT TO PROMOTE ELECTRIFICATION OF BUSES AND BOATS AND THINGS AND THAT'S HOW I GOT INVOLVED WITH BOATS. YESTERDAY I GOT A NOFO ON GARBAGE TRUCKS, THAT THEY WANT US TO HAVE TWO GARBAGE TRUCKS. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TWO GARBAGE TRUCKS BUT MAYBE THE FCC WOULD LIKE -- AND I ASSUME THEY'RE ELECTRIC. BUT I'M GOING TO FORWARD THAT TO YOU. THESE GRANTS TAKE FOREVER. THAT'S TEN YEARS AGO AND THEY STILL HAVE MY NUMBER AND SENT ME A NOTICE, HEY, THERE'S STILL SOME MONEY LEFT.

>> INTERESTING. COMMISSIONER SGROMOLO?

>> MORE SO A COMMENT THAN A QUESTION. FIRST OF ALL, MEGAN, YOU AND YOUR TEAM JUST CRUSH IT. YOU DO SUCH A GREAT JOB, AND I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS HOW MUCH MONEY THIS OFF SETS, WHICH IS REALLY, REALLY GOOD.

THAT'S WHY I GAVE YOU THE NICKNAME MONEYBAGS MEGAN.

NEVERTHELESS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY SPECIFICALLY WITH THE SPONSORSHIP ROLE KIND OF SHIFTING, I APPRECIATE YOU KIND OF STEPPING UP, AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE MEGAN ALL THE PRAISE. A LOT OF THE ATHLETIC ASSOCIATIONS HAVE KIND OF CAME FORWARD WITH PRIVATE DOLLARS TO IMPROVE SOME OF OUR PARKS, AND I EXTEND THIS IS AS AN OPEN INVITATION TO THE COMMUNITY. IF YOU'RE PART OF AN ASSOCIATION AND YOU HAVE THE CASH TO BRING FORWARD TO DO IMPROVEMENTS, WE WANT TO PARTNER WITH YOU, AND MEGAN AND HER TEAM STAND READY TO DO THAT, AND WE'LL KEEP THE BALL MOVING, SO THANKS.

>> THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE SPORTS

ACTIVITY -- >>

SURE. >> WE HAD A MILLION DOLLAR DONATION TO THE ANIMAL CONTROL, SO IT CAN GO ANYWHERE -- ANYWHERE YOU HAVE THETHE TO PUT YOUR BUCKS.

>> WE ALSO HAD A REQUEST TO ANIMAL SERVICES, SO SOMEONE LEFT THEIR HOME TO THE COUNTY WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO SELL THE HOME AND GIVE THE MONEY TO ANIMAL SERVICES, SO YEAH.

GOOD STUFF. THANKS, MEGAN. BEFORE WE GO TO THE MOBILITY FEE DISCUSSION, TWO COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT, ONE OF YOU IS ACTUALLY THE COMMISSIONER FOR OUR EVERGREEN LANE FRIEND WHO CAME AND TALKED TO US.

IT'S NOT ME. >> I THINK HE SAID GREENWOOD, WHICH IS IN MY DISTRICT.

>> GREEN LANE. I WANTED TODAY CORRECT THAT IN CASE ONE OF YOU WANTED TO FIGURE OUT IF HE'S YOURS TO FOLLOW-UP. SO SORRY ABOUT THAT MISSPEAK. USUALLY MIDDLEBURG.

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THANK YOU, BETH. WE CAN MOVE INTO OUR MOBILITY FEE DISCUSSION.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. BEV CARSON, PLANNING AND ZONING.

FOR MANY MONTHS NOW WE HAVE WORKED PLANNING AND ZONING WITH LAURA HANSEN, OUR MOBILITY FEE COORDINATOR AS WELL AS OUR ENGINEERING TEAM, RICHARD SMITH, AS WELL AS OUR LEGAL TEAM HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANTS THE COUNTY HAS HIRED TO DEVELOP OUR NEW MOBILITY FEES.

TODAY JEANETTE BURKE WITH GNT IS HERE TO PRESENT AND WE WILL CROSS FINGERS THIS IS GOING TO

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US. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE AND DISCUSS THE CLAY COUNTY MOBILITY PLAN UPDATE.

I'M JEANETTE BURKE WITH GFT, AND AS BETH SAID JONATHAN IS ON THE TEAMS CALL WITH RSG. SO WE'RE THE EXACT SAME TEAM THAT DID THE PREVIOUS MOBILITY STUD YO.

WHAT YOU CHANGE FROM IMPACT FEE TO MULTIMODAL MOBILITY FEE, IT'S THE SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE, SO WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE STUDY.

AND WE JUST WANTED TO GO OVER THE AGENDA.

AND SO THE AGENDA, WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME GENERAL INFORMATION ON THE MOBILITY FEE STUDY, A STUDY OVERVIEW, AND MOBILITY FEE PROJECT LIST, AND THE FEE RATE, HOW IT'S CALCULATED. AND THEN WE'RE OPEN FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS FOR THAT STUDY. SO WE WANTED TO GO OVER THE GENERAL INFORMATION RELATED TO MOBILITY FEE.

IT'S A LAND USE REGULATION THAT ALLOWS YOU, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT, TO ASSESS A FEW ON NEW DEVELOPMENT TO HELP FUND THE COST OF YOUR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THAT'S -- THAT'S THE IDEA BEHIND MOBILITY FEE.

AND THE FEES ARE PAID AT THE TIME OF THE BUILDING PERMIT ISSUE, AND IT'S GOVERNED BY STATUTE.

SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE IT TELLS YOU THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE A DUAL RATIONAL NEXUS, AND THAT IS JUST TO ENSURE THE IMPACT FEE IS PROPORTIONALLY AND REASONABLY CONNECTED TO AND HAS A RATIONAL NEXUS WITH THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL CAPITAL FACILITIES AND THE INCREASED IMPACT GENERATED BY NEW RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION. SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE ENSURE THAT THAT IMPACT FEE IS PROPORTIONALLY AND REASONABLY CONNECTED TO OR HAS A RATIONAL NEXUS WITH THE EXPENDITURES OF THE FUNDS COLLECTED OR BENEFITS ACCRUING TO NEW RESIDENTIAL OR NONRESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION.

SO I KIND OF READ THAT SLIDE BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, AND WE'VE DEVELOPED A METHODOLOGY THAT ALLOWS US TO TEST THAT AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE THE NEXT -- THE RATIONAL NEXUS. SO WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, MORE THAN SEVERAL MEETINGS OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS AND DEVELOPERS ASSOCIATED WITH THE STUDY. I THINK WE LOST OUR SLIDES.

SO THIS MEETING THAT WE'RE HAVING TODAY WITH YOU IS AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING JUST TO GO OVER THE PROCESS AND TO COME BACK TO YOU IN JANUARY 13TH HOPEFULLY WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE

PLAN. >> YOU CAN CONTINUE ON.

WE HAVE THE SLIDES. THE PUBLIC CAN'T SEE IT, BUT IF YOU JUST SPEAK TO THE SLIDES, I THINK IT WOULD BE

OKAY. >> OKAY.

SO WE HAD SEVERAL PARTICIPANTS. OF COURSE YOU'RE A MAJOR PARTICIPANT -- YES, WE'RE THERE. A MAJOR PARTICIPANT. THE COUNTY STAFF, WE'VE BEEN CONTINUOUSLY WORKING WITH YOUR COUNTY STAFF, KEEPING THEM INVOLVED AND FOLLOWING THE PROCESS STEP BY STEP WITH THEM.

WE'VE HAD A MEETING. WE'VE HAD OVER SEVEN MEETINGS WITH DEVELOPERS AND AGENCIES AND OTHER CONSULTANTS TO KEEP THEM IN THE LOOP WITH WHATEVER DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE. SO AS FAR AS THE OVERVIEW OF THE STUDY, WHICH IS THE NEXT SLIDE, WE REVIEWED A LOT OF DATA SOURCES AND DID ANALYSIS ON THOSE DATA SOURCES, AND I'LL STEP THROUGH SOME OF THAT. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE DOCUMENTING THAT WHOLE ANALYSIS. WE CALCULATED THE PROJECT COSTS AND FEE VERY CLOSELY WITH THE COUNTY. WE ARE EVALUATING THE MOBILITY FEE BY THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVEN'T CHANGED SINCE THE LAST MOBILITY FEE STUDY.

WE'LL GO OVER SOME DATA AND ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE MADE, THEN OF COURSE WE'RE GOING TO DOCUMENT EVERYTHING, AND WE'VE BEEN HOLDING MEETINGS AND PRESENTATIONS THROUGHOUT THIS STUDY.

SO JUST TO WALK THROUGH THE MOBILITY FEE STUDY, SO WE START -- THAT'S THE NEXT SLIDE. WE START WITH THE LAND USE AND DEMOGRAPHIC FORECAST. SO FOR THIS STUDY WE USED THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA REGIONAL PLANNING MODEL.

THAT'S DEVELOPED BY THE NORTH FLORIDA TRANSPORTATIONAL ORGANIZATION. IT'S THE MODEL BEING USED FOR THE LONG- RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, WHICH IS ADOPTED BY THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION. IT'S A FIVE- YEAR PROCESS.

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A NEW MODEL HAS BEEN ADOPTED SINCE THIS MODEL THAT WE ARE USING, BUT WHAT WE DID IS COMPARE THE SOCIOECONOMIC DATA IN THE MODEL THAT WE'RE USING FOR THIS STUDY AGAINST MORE RECENT ADOPTED MODEL AND MADE SURE THAT THEY ALIGN NOT ONLY WITH THE SOCIOECONOMIC DATA BUT ALSO WITH THE NETWORK, WITH ALL THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN UPDATED. SO WE UPDATED THAT MODEL TO THE YEAR 2024.

THAT'S OUR BASE YEAR FOR THIS STUDY. AND OUR FORECASTING YEAR IS 2045. SO THAT MODEL WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON SOCIOECONOMIC DATA UPDATES. WE'VE GOTTEN INPUT FROM DEVELOPERS ON THOSE SOCIOECONOMIC DATA.

SO WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON SOCIOECONOMIC DATA TO MAKE SURE WE'RE REFLECTING THE DEVELOPMENT CORRECTLY THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COUNTY. SO AS I SAID IT'S A VERY DETAILED MODEL AND REFER TO THATTHAT AS AN ACTIVITY BASE MODEL. I DON'T WANT TO GET TECHNICALLY ABOUT THAT BUT IT'S THE DETAIL ABOUT THE MODEL CURRENTLY ADOPTED.

SO WE CREATED A FUTURE NETWORK. WE KNOW WHICH PROJECTS ARE GOING TO COME ONLINE. THEY'RE PRIORITIZING THE WORK PROGRAM. THEY'RE PRIORITIZING THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, SO WE LOOK AT ALL THOSE PROJECTS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE REFLECTED, AND WE USE A MODEL TO ANALYZE CHANGES IN LAND USE AND IN THAT TRANSPORTATION NETWORK.

THAT'S WHAT THE TRAVEL DEMAND ESTIMATION MODEL ALLOWS YOU TO DO.

SOLE YOU CAN CHANGE LAND USES, CHANGE THE ROADWAY SYSTEM AND SEE WHAT THE EFFECT IS OF THOSE CHANGES ON THE TRAVEL PATTERNS WITHIN CLAY COUNTY.

SO WE MAKE REFINEMENTS AS WE APPLY THIS MODEL, MAKE SURE IT'S REFLECTING THE CORRECT INFORMATION. SO ONCE WE'VE GOT ALL THAT DONE, WE REALLY WANT TO LOOK AT THE TRAVEL BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE THE DIFFERENT MOBILITY FEES FOR.

SO WE ANALYZE WHAT -- WE STARTED VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED, LIKE HOW MUCH TRAVEL IS OCCURRING WITHIN A DISTRICT FROM ONE DISTRICT TO ANOTHER DISTRICT. AND WE ANALYZE ALL THAT AND MEASURE ALL THAT AND COME UP WITH WHAT WE CALL THE COST OF PERSON MILES TRAVELED. SO VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED IS A VERY WELL- KNOWN CONCEPT, BUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR MOBILITY FEE STUDY AND THE LAST ONE, YOU CAN SPEND THE FUNDING ON TRAILS, ON MOBILITY HUBS RELATED TO TRANSIT.

IT'S A VERY FLEXIBLE -- IT'S NOT JUST ROADWAYS, SO WE REALLY WANT TO MEASURE PERSON TRIPS AND NOT JUST VEHICLE TRIPS SO THAT WE CAN ANALYZE THE USE OF TRANSIT OR BIKES OR PEDESTRIANS AND ANALYZE THAT BETTER.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH, THIS COST PER VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED IN CLAY COUNTY. AND THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO CALCULATE BASE FEES FOR DIFFERENT LAND USES.

THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER INFORMATION ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, AND JONATHAN WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THESE LAST THREE BULLETS, SO TO SPEAK, THE REVENUE CREDITS AND THE NET FEE.

THAT'S HIS PORTION OF THE STUDY.

AND I WILL GO ON TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW TO PROCESS WORKS TO COME UP WITH THIS COST PER MILE TRAVEL. WE'VE GOT DISTRICTS.

WE HAVE THEM LISTED HERE, AND ON THE NEXT SLIDE WE HAVE THE MAP.

MIDDLEBURG AND WEST CLAY, OAK LEAF, LAKE ASBURY, AND SOUTH LAKE. IT'S THE SAME DISTRICTS WE USED LAST TIME AROUND AND MEASURED THE PERSON MILE TRAVELED WITHIN THE DISTRICTS TO COME UP WITH THE COST OF PERSON MILES TRAVELED. SO AS I SAID BEFORE, OUR BASE YEAR IS 2024, AND OUR FUTURE NETWORK IS THE 2045.

AND WE LOOK AT THE FACILITY TYPES, THE NUMBER OF DIRECTIONAL LANES, RECALCULATE THE VOLUME AND CAPACITY RATIOS FOR ALL THESE ROADWAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COMPLY WITH THE NEXUS THAT I TALKED ABOUT ON THE FIRST SLIDE, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T GET MORE PROJECTS THAN WHAT THE CONGESTION ALLOWS US TO IDENTIFY, BASED ON THE NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING IN FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

SO THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE NETWORK THAT SHOWS YOU THE FUR

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AND THAT VOLUME CAPACITY RATIO IS IMPORTANT IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO NOT CHARGE MORE MONEY, GET MORE PROJECTS THAN WE'RE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO CHARGE WITHIN THE COUNTY.

THE NEXT SLIDE IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN EXPLANATION BETWEEN THE PERSON MILES TRAVELED AND THE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED, WHICH SHOWS THAT THE PERSON MILES TRAVEL TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WALKING, BIKING, AND TRANSIT. SO THIS NEXT SLIDE IS REALLY VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS IS THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE DIFFERENCE IN VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED AND PERSON MILES TRAVELED PER DISTRICT, AND THAT IS REALLY THE BASIS OF OUR MOBILITY FEE.

THERE IS THE COST OF THE PROJECTS, AND THEN THERE IS THE PERSON MILES TRAVELED, AND THOSE TWO NUMBERS ARE VERY IMPORTANT IN THE CALCULATION OF THE MOBILITY FEE. AND JONATHAN IS GOING TO GO OVER THAT CALCULATION WITH YOU AND ALSO OVER THE MOBILITY FEE PROJECT LIST.

>>

>> YES, YOU CAN.

>> HERE WHICH REPRESENTS 22 LINES OF PROJECTS. SOME OF THE PROJECTS LIKE CATHEDRAL OR CHESWICK I MULTIPLE COMPONENTS AND SAME AS PARKWAY. WE'VE BROKEN THIS INFORMATION SAME AS THE COUNTY STAFF TO SEE WHAT WOULD BE ACHIEVABLE FROM DIFFERENT SEGMENTS.

YOU MAY NOT BUILD THE PROJECT IN ONE GO. SO WE DIVIDED CERTAIN LENGTHS OF ROADWAYS INTO MULTIPLE SEGMENTS.

WE'VE BEEN DOG NIZANT USING STANDARDIZED COSTS, SO THAT'S BEEN AN IMPORTANT ASPECT I WANTED TO BRING UP TO YOUR ATTENTION HERE, THAT WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. SO SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE HAVE INFORMATION ON, AND OTHER PROJECTS WE HAVE LESS. WE'RE USING FDOT STANDARDIZED UNIT COST PER MILE BASED ON THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF CONFIGURATION THAT THESE ROADWAY PROJECTS HAVE. AND THEN BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION WE HAVE SUCH AS RIGHT-OF- WAY, PRELIM NAR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION ENGINEERING, WE HAVE A FACTOR THAT HELPS US ESCALATE SOME OF THAT COST TO ACCOUNT FOR SOME OF THE UNCERTAINTY. THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE FAR RIGHT- HAND COLUMN THERE WE'RE DEEMING AS ELIGIBLE FOR THE MOBILITY FEE.

RICHARD IS HERE IN THE ROOM I BELIEVE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS I MIGHT NOT HAVE IN TERMS OF THE DETAILED NUANCES OF ANY OF THESE PARTICULAR PROJECTS.

WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE FOR NOW UNLESS THERE'S A QUESTION.

THE OTHER PART OF THE MULTIMODAL MOBILITY FEE IS THAT WE'RE FUNDING TRAIL PROJECTS.

NOW, I WILL SAY IN THE REPORT WE'RE GOING TO IDENTIFY A MAJORITY OF THOSE ROADWAY PROJECTS THAT WERE ON THE PRECEDING SLIDE, THEY HAVE SIDEWALKS, THEY HAVE BIKE LANES, SO THEY ARE IN ESSENCE A MULTIMODAL CAPACITY AS WELL. THEN WE HAVE STAND ALONE MOBILITY PROJECTS THAT FUND CERTAIN MODES.

IN THIS CASE PEDESTRIAN TRAVEL, TRAIL PROJECTS THAT COULD ALSO BE BIKES, PARTICULARLY IN THE FUTURE OR E- BIKES ARE BECOMING MUCH MORE PREVALENT, AND SO A TRAIL PROJECT REALLY DOES PROVIDE NEW MOBILITY OPTIONS FOR THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN TRAVELING THOSE LONGER DISTANCES PARTICULARLY WITH AN E- BIKE, IT REALLY DOES CHANGE, CHANGE THE NATURE OF TRAVEL.

SO WE'VE GOT $14 MILLION ACROSS TWO PARTICULAR MOBILITY DISTRICTS FOR THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS. THEN ON THE NEXT SLIDE WE'VE GOT THE TRANSIT ASPECT OF THIS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH JTA.

THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT HAVE US IN THE PRELIMINARY -- IN THE 2020 MOBILITY FEE STUDY THAT JEANETTE IDENTIFIED. WE HAVEN'T YET CONSTRUCTED THESE MOBILITY HUBS, SO WE'RE CARRYING THESE FORWARD.

THESE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH JTA. WE REALIZED A MOBILITY HUB JUST TO DEFINE IT FOR EVERYBODY WOULD BE A LOCATION WHERE THERE WOULD BE TRANSIT SERVICE TO IT, BUT THEN THE HUB WOULD BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT SOME SORT OF EITHER A STRUCTURE. IT MIGHT HAVE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING. IT MIGHT HAVE SHARED CAR SERVICES. IT MIGHT HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR

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SO THE NEXT SLIDE IS WHERE JEANETTE DISCUSSED WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO SIDES OF A COIN, AS I LIKE TO SAY. WE HAVE THE PROJECT NEEDS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE JUST WALKED THROUGH, WHICH SUM TO APPROXIMATELY $530 MILLION OVER THE NEXT 20 OR SO YEARS.

THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT AS JEANETTE SAID, WE'VE WORKED WITH STAKEHOLDERS.

WE'VE WORKED WITH THE COUNTY STAFF TO IDENTIFY THAT THESE ARE THE PRIORITIES, AND THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT DEEM TO HAVE SUFFICIENT PUBLIC VALUE, THAT IT'S ACCEPTABLE TO CHARGE LOCAL LAND DEVELOPMENT TO CONTRIBUTE TO. SO WE HAVE THE $530 MILLION OF POTENTIAL PROJECT COSTS OR CAPACITY. THEN WE HAVE THE DEMAND SIDE OF THE COIN, WHICH IS THE SECOND TO LAST COLUMN ON THE RIGHT, THE 2020 -- THE CHANGE BETWEEN THE FUTURE AND TODAY.

SO THERE'S A POSITIVE CHANGE. THERE'S AN INCREASE IN TOTAL TRAVEL DEMAND, WHICH WE'RE EQUATING TO PERSON MILES OF TRAVEL. SO IN TOTALITY THERE'S SOMEWHERE ABOUT 3 MILLION NEW MILES OF TRAVEL THAT'S BEING GENERATED BY THE FUTURE LAND USE.

IF WE DIVIDE THE 530 BY THE 3. 1 MILLION, WE GET A FEE RATE OF $169. THAT'S IF WE GENERALIZE THE FEE ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND ALL FIVE DISTRICTS.

NOW, IN ORDER FOR US TO HAVE THAT DUAL RATIONAL NEXUS AND TO HAVE THE CONFIDENCE THAT THE PROJECTS THEMSELVES, SO LET'S SAY A LAND USE CHANGE IN LAKE ASBURY, WHY ARE THEY FUNDING PROJECTS IN SOUTHWEST CLAY.

WE'VE DIVIDED THE TRAVEL LIST AS WELL AS THE CHANGE IN TRAVEL DEMAND BY THOSE DISTRICTS. THOSE DISTRICTS WERE SIZED LAST TIME IN THE 2020 STUDY SIMILAR TO THE AVERAGE TRIP LENGTHS THAT ARE BEING DRIVEN IN THE COUNTY. SO THEY'RE RELATIVELY LARGE AREAS, AND THEY'RE BOUND BY CONSISTENCY IN THEIR ZONING AND LAND USE CHANGES. SO THOSE DISTRICTS WERE AGREED UPON EARLY, AND WE DECIDED EARLY IN THIS PROCESS THAT THEY HAD ENOUGH VALUE THAT WE REMAINED IN THOSE DISTRICTS. SO IF WE LOOK ROW BY ROW WE HAVE THE LIST OF THE PROJECT CAPACITY. SO THE COST OF ALL OF THAT CAPACITY DIVIDED BY THE UNIT OF GROWTH, WHICH IS THAT PMT CHANGE, AND THEN WE'RE GETTING TO THIS FEE, MOBILITY FEE RATE IN THAT LAST COLUMN.

JUST LASTLY IS WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON LEGAL CONFORMITY HERE, AND THE IDEA IS THAT EVERY LAND USE GENERATES TRIPS, AND THAT WAY WE'RE TREATING EVERY LAND USE CONSISTENT.

EVERY LAND USE, HOWEVER, GENERATES DIFFERENT INTENSITY, AND SO THEY GENERATE DIFFERENT NUMBERS OF TRIPS, BUT YET THEY'RE ALL PAYING THE SAME FUNDAMENTAL BASIS, WHICH IS THAT DOLLAR PER PMT. AND THAT'S AGAIN JUST TO REMIND US AS WE GO INTO THE NEXT SLIDE, IT'S THE TOTAL COST OF INFRASTRUCTURE DIVIDED BY THAT CHANGE IN GROWTH. SO THIS NEXT SLIDE ILLUSTRATES A CHANGE IN FLORIDA STATUTE THAT HAS BEEN RELATIVELY NEW.

WE HAVE STATUTE THAT IS ADVISING US THAT IF WE HAVE A FEE RATE INCREASE OF A LESS THAN 25%, WE CAN DO THAT IN I THINK TWO STEPS, IF I -- I MIGHT BE MISTAKEN. IT MIGHT BE ONE STEP.

BUT IF WE'RE ABLE -- IF WE INCREASE UP TO A 50% INCREASE, WE HAVE TO DO IT IN FOUR INCREMENTS. NOW, IF WERE TO BE ABOVE A 50% INCREASE, THERE'S AN EXTRAORDINARY STEP WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS WITH YOU ALL AND A DIFFERENT VOTE TO ACHIEVE THAT.

NOW, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN THIS CASE IS THE MOBILITY FEE RATE, THAT WOULD BE SEQUENCED IN FOUR STEPS FROM TODAY.

YEAR ONE WOULD BE IMMEDIATELY UPON I BELIEVE 90 DAYS AFTER IF YOU ALL WERE TO ACCEPT THIS TODAY, WHICH I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING T. THIS IS FOR INFORMATION ONLY.

SO WE HAVE THAT PHASE ONE, WHICH IS THE YEAR ONE MOBILITY FEE RATE FOR EACH OF THE DISTRICTS.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IT VARIES BY DISTRICT SOMEWHAT DRAMATICALLY. IF ANY MOBILITY FEE DISTRICT WAS PROPOSED TO DECREASE WE IMPLEMENT THAT IMMEDIATELY IN YEAR ONE. HOWEVER, IF IT'S GOING TO BE AN INCREASE, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE PHASED PROCESS.

AND SO AT THE END OF YEAR FOUR, WE HAVE A FULL LEGAL MAXIMUM THAT WE'VE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN THIS FEE STUDY. NOW, I WILL REMIND YOU THAT AS A LEGAL -- AS A LEGAL CONSTRUCT, THIS STUDY IS PROVIDING YOU WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THE LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE MAXIMUM OF

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AND THAT'S WHERE THE FEE RATE ULTIMATELY WAS DECIDED UPON WAS THAT WE NEEDED TO FUND "X" AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE, AND WE ANTICIPATE "Y" AMOUNT OF GROWTH. WE DIVIDE THOSE TWO, AND THAT'S WHERE WE GET THE MOBILITY FEE RATE. ANY QUESTIONS HERE? THIS IS AN IMPORTANT SLIDE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SPACE, AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF HOW IT'S APPLIED IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE SENSE, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A MORE THOROUGH TIME FOR QUESTIONS.

>> YES, I HAVE A QUESTION. THIS IS COMMISSIONER CONDON.

SO IT MAY BE EASIER TO GO BACK TO EITHER YOUR SLIDE FOR THE MOBILITY FEE DISTRICT OR YOUR MILES TRAVELED BY DISTRICT, BUT I'M WONDERING WHY YOU -- WHY THE GROUP LEFT THE MOBILITY FEE DISTRICTS THE SAME. AND MY ISSUE IS THAT SPECIFICALLY WITH THE BOUNDARIES OF LAKE ASBURY AND SOUTH CLAY BUT IN THE GREEN GREEN COVE SPRINGS SLIDE. IF YOU GO TO THE SLIDE THAT TELLS IT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED AND PERSON MILES TRAVELED BETWEEN 2024 AND 2045 IN SOUTH CLAY, I CAN TELL YOU BECAUSE I REPRESENT MOST OF SOUTH CLAY BUT NOT ALL OF IT, THE ONLY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROVED AND WILL BE APPROVED LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA IS GOVERNORS PARK AND AGRIKOLA FARMS. MY ISSUE IS YOU HAVE ALL OF SOUTH CLAY PAYING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT GOING IN ONE PARTICULAR AREA, AND THAT IS NOT FAIR BECAUSE I HAVE PEOPLE WITH GENERATIONAL LAND THAT WILL DO HEIRS EXEMPTIONS AND THEY'RE BUILDING A HOUSE, ONE HOUSE THAT IS NOT ADDING A HUGE DIFFERENCE TO COUNTY SERVICES, AND THEY HAVE TO WRITE A CHECK FOR $20,000 BEFORE THEY GET THEIR BUILDING PERMIT.

AND THAT'S NOT PICKING OUT NICE COUNTER TOPS OR FIXTURES OR ANYTHING. IT'S JUST PAYING A CHECK TO THE COUNTY FOR $20,000 WHEN YOU INCLUDE THE IMPACT FEES AND THE MOBILITY FEES.

AND IF YOU ADD ONTO THE THAT, I HAPPEN TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ONE OF COMMISSIONER BURKE'S CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE HER FAMILY LIVES IN MY DISTRICT, AND SHE WAS CALLING ME ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WAS TOTALLY UNRELATED TO THAT.

BUT SHE AND HER HUSBAND ARE BUILDING ON FAMILY LAND, AND THEY HAD -- BECAUSE OF WHERE SHE LIVES. SHE LIVES ACTUALLY IN THAT SQUIGGLY CORNER OF THE LAKE ASBURY MAP DISTRICT. BECAUSE SHE LIVES THERE ACROSS THE STREET FROM HER HER IMPACT FEE WOULD HAVE BEEN $100,000 LESS, BUT BECAUSE SHE LIVES IN THE LAKE ASBURY IMFACT FEE DISTRICT, SHE HAD TO PAY $27,000 TO BUILD A HOUSE, AND THIS IS A HUSBAND, WIFE, AND TWO LITTLE KIDS.

THIS IS NOT A BIG DEVELOPER. AND SO I DON'T -- SO THOSE ARE -- MY QUESTIONS ARE, I GUESS, MULTIFOLD.

WHY DID WE LEAVE AGRICOLA FARMS AND GOVERNORS PARK IN THE SOUTH CLAY÷÷ DISTRICT AND MAKE THE REST OF SOUTH CLAY PAY FOR IT? AND I GUESS I WOULD ASK SIMILARLY FOR MIDDLEBURG WEST CLAY WHY WE THINK TRIPS IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS OR HOWEVER MANY, WHAT IS IT? ARE GOING TO GO UP.

>> 20 YEARS.

>> THE TRIPS ARE GOING TO GO UP WHEN THERE ISN'T DEVELOPMENT APPROVED? AND THAT'S MY ISSUE AND -- BECAUSE THE WHOLE INTENTION WAS THIS WAS NOT GOING TO DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT RESIDENTS WHO LIVE HERE, AND IT IS BECAUSE OF THOSE TWO THINGS.

AND IT'S THE WAY THE CALCULATION.

WHERE DOES SOMEBODY COME UP WITH IN 20 YEARS THERE'S GOING TO BE SO MUCH MORE VEHICLE MILES WHERE THEY'RE LIVING. WE'RE NOT PUTTING THEM ANYWHERE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT DEVELOPMENT APPROVED.

>> SO IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO TELL FROM THIS MAP, THE COLORED MAP, BUT GOVERNORS PARK IS PART OF THE LAKE ASBURY DISTRICT.

>> BUT AGRICOLA FARMS IS NOT.

>> IT'S THE SAME THING.

>> THE GEOGRAPHIC ON HERE, THERE IS NO DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO OCCUR PAST HERE AND REALLY PAST THERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE URBAN SERVICE BOUNDARY. SO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS THAT STAFF IS GOING TO COME AND RECOMMEND TO US AGAIN TO

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WE ARE NOT MOVING THE URBAN SERVICE BOUNDARY. I'M TELLING YOU, THERE ARE HOW MANY HOMES APPROVED IN THIS COUNTY, AND WHAT DO WE HEAR FROM RESIDENTS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, STOP APPROVING LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT. THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE HERE ARE FEELING OVERWHELMED, AND YOU'RE ASKING US TO ADD INTO THIS 20 YEARS OF, OH, YEAH, BRING THEM ON. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CALCULATIONS. WHERE DO THESE NUMBERS COME FROM? THAT'S MY

ISSUE. >> SO MY COMMENT TO THAT IS DO YOU WANT US TO REDRAW THE LINES TO PUT AGRICOLA IN LAKE LAKE ASBURY? THAT THE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING?

>> WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IN THIS OR YOU'RE -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STAFF OR CONSULTANTS, BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE PROPOSING IS ALL OF SOUTH CLAY PAY FOR ROADS -- THERE'S ONE ROAD IN SOUTH CLAY THAT'S ON THIS SHEET, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

LIKE, THE PROJECTS DON'T ALIGN WITH THE DISTRICTS, SO THERE'S ONE -- SO THERE'S ONE ROAD ON THIS MOBILITY FEE DISTRICT THAT'S STATE ROAD 100 BRADFORD COUNTY LINE TO PUTNAMPUTNAM LINE. WE ALL KNOW THAT'S NOT HAPPENING. THAT'S D.O. T. I GO TO THE DPO MEETINGS. THEY NEVER TALK ABOUT THAT.

>> AND WE CAN TAKE THAT OUT. I'D RATHER NOT GET IN THE WEEDS TODAY. IF THERE'S STUFF YOU WANT TO GIVE US HOMEWORK ON AND LOOK AT

IT. >> MY ISSUE REALLY ISN'T THE PROJECTS. MY ISSUE IS THAT IS THE FEES ALIGNING WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY

THEM? >> AND THE FEE IN SOUTH CLAY IS GOING DOWN.

>> HE SAID DOWN IMMEDIATELY, BUT IT'S NOT.

IT'S GOING DOWN OVER FOUR YEARS.

>> IF IT'S BEING REDUCED, IT GOES IMMEDIATELY.

>> THIS SHEET HAS 36 --

>> IF IT'S UP IT'S FOR FOUR YEARS.

>> IT GOES FROM 36, 16, TO 25,

90. >> THAT'S FROM 2020, SO IT'SIT'S FROM YEAR ONE TO 2590, BUT IT GOES DOWN. THEN WHAT ABOUT AGRICOLA FARMS ARE THERE NO READ ISSUES COMING FROM THAT? AND NOTHING ELSE IN SOUTH

CLAY? >>

NO. >> SO WHAT IS BEING DEVELOPED FOR MIDDLEBURG WEST TO GO

UP? >>

218. >> I SAW THAT IT'S $33 MILLION, BUT WHERE THAT IS MONEY GOING TO COME FROM? WHAT HOUSES ARE GOING TO BE BUILT TO ACCUMULATE THAT.

>> NOT MANY NECESSARILY, BUT THAT'S THE ROAD -- THAT'S THE ROAD WE WOULD WANT IT TO GO TO IF WE ARE USING -- IF WE HAVE A ROAD IN THAT AREA, IT NEEDS TO BE

THAT ONE. >> OH, I AGREE WITH THAT.

BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. SO WHY ARE WE MAKING PEOPLE PAY IT? YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING?

>> NO.

>> SO THE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA THAT ARE GOING TO BUILD HOUSES.

>> RIGHT.

>> ARE NOT LARGE SCALE DEVELOPERS.

>> BUT WE STILL PAY THEM BECAUSE I PAID MINE AS WELL.

>> I AGREE. AND THAT'S PAINFUL FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE. SO I WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE NUMBERS COME FROM TO SAY IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED OR PERSON MILES TRAVELED IN THAT

AREA THAT DRIVE THAT. >> SO THAT COMES FROM THE NORTH FLORIDA REGIONAL REGIONAL PLANNING MODEL, THE SOCIOECONOMIC DATA AND PLANNING.

>> THE DATA IS DEVELOPED BY NORTH FLORIDA TPO AND DONE IN COORDINATION WITH EACH OF THE COUNTIES. SO WHEN THEY DEVELOPED THAT DATA, THEY COORDINATED WITH CLAY COUNTY FOR THE FUTURE FORECAST. SO IT'S BASED ON ZONING THAT YOU HAVE. IT'S BASED ON YOUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP. IT'S BASED ON YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT'S BASED ON OTHER PROCESSES. WE DID NOT MAKE THAT UP.

WE LOOK AT THOSE PROCESSES. WE COORDINATE CLOSELY WITH THE COUNTY, AND THAT'S THE DATA THAT'S IN THE MODEL. SO THAT DATA IS DEVELOPED WITH THE COUNTY IN COORDINATION WITH THE NORTH FLORIDA TPO.

AND IT'S DONE EVERY FIVE YEARS. SO IT'S UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS. IT'S THE LONG- RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING PROCESS. SO THAT'S WHERE IT COMES FROM, AND IT'S BASED ON YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, AND ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT THE COUNTY IS AWARE OF.

>> YEAH, THAT'S WHERE I GO BACK TO THERE'S NOT ANY IN THAT AREA

SO -- >> THIS IS FOR 2045.

>> MOST OF IT'S NOT IN THE URBAN

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FROM. >> WE'LL GET A LOOK AT THAT, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL LOOK AT.

THAT'S ALL BASED ON THE TPO.

>> I THINK IT MATTERS TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION IN THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THEY WONDER WHERE THESE NUMBERS COME FROM. AND I DO GET THE CALLS WE HAVE TO WRITE IT. COMMISSIONER BURKE'S RESIDENT WROTE A $27,000 CHECK, AND SHE GOT HER BUILDING PERMIT.

>> UNDERSTOOD.

>> Y'ALL KNOW. I KNOW YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR -- I MEAN I THINK THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW, AND THERE'S PEOPLE -- AND LOOK, THIS IS NOT A POKE AT NEF BOOK, THE BIG BUILDERS. YOU GO BUY A D.R. HORTON HOUSE OR WHOEVER HOUSE, AND IT'S WRAPPED INTO THE WHOLE FEE. BUT FOR THE MORE -- AND PROBABLY PEOPLE GOING TO BUILD UP ANY VACANT LOTS IN ESPECIALY COMMISSIONER RENNINGER'S DISTRICT BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF AREA LEFT.

THAT HITS OUR CONSTITUENTS A LOT HARDER.

>> BUT IN COMMISSIONER RENNINGER'S DISTRICT AS WELL AS COMMISSIONER SGROMOLO'S DISTRICT THERE ARE NO ROAD PROJECTS. THERE'S ONE ROAD PROJECT, SO THERE FEES ARE ALSO GOING DOWN.

>> I SAW THAT TO $10.

>> SO THE PROJECTED GROWTH FOR THE TIME PERIOD THROUGH 2045 THE GRANITE FIELD, OAK LEAF AREA AND THE LAKE ASBURY AREA, THE TWO MASTER PLANS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WAS ESTABLISHED BACK IN THE EARLY 2000S TO FIGURE WHERE GROWTH WAS GOING TO BE TARGETED. WE DEAL WITH PRESSURE ALL THE TIME OF DEVELOPERS COMING IN AND WANTING US TO OKAY AND AGREEAGREE THAT URBAN AREA SHOULD BE EXPANDED, SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY TELLING THEM NO AS WELL, SO WE TRY AND SCREEN THEM BEFORE THEY GET TO YOU.

YOU'LL BE SEEING SOME MORE.

>> I KNOW. THEY

TELL ME ALL THE TIME. >> EXCUSE ME, CHAIR.

I HAVE A SIMILAR QUESTION PRIMARILY BECAUSE AS FAR AS -- SO I KNOW THAT THE ORANGE PARK PART OF MY DISTRICT IS FULLY DEVELOPED. WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT ANY ROAD PROJECTS. OAK LEAF IS SIMILARLY SITUATED, SO I'M WONDERING HOW WE ARE SECOND HIGHEST ON THIS LIST. SO MAYBE SOME CLARIFICATION AS TO WHERE WE'RE EXPECTING THOSE ROADS. AND THE LARGEST LIFT I NOTICED WAS CHESWICK OAKS, WHICH IS COST PROHIBITIVE, COMING IN AT $30 MILLION AT A MILE, A QUARTER OF A MILE.

>> THAT ROAD IS CRITICAL CONNECTION SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO UP AND OUT OF THE COUNTY TO COME BACK DOWN. SO IT WOULD BE VERY CRITICAL TO GET THAT CONNECTION ACROSS COUNTY.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. EARLIER THIS YEAR WE HAD TPO COME IN AND TELL US THAT'S A $100 MILLION LIFT.

SO I UNDERSTAND HOW CRITICALLY IMPORTANT IT IS.

I'M TRYING TO -- MAYBE BACK TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION.

WHERE ARE WE SEEING ROADS THAT THESE DOLLARS WOULD BE ALLOCATED TO IN THE BRANNENFIELD, OAK LEAF AREA?

>> IT'S ON THE LIST. $100 MILLION FOR CHESWICK OAKS INTERSECTION BACK TO ROAD

221. >> DISTRICT DRIVE, WHICH IS A CRITICAL ONE THERE BY KENDALL WOOD.

COMING ACROSS CHEZ WICK OAK AND GOING UP NORTH --

>> GOING TO CONNECT NORTH TO THE

PARK. >> OKAY, SO ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS TIE INTO CHESWICK. SO I GUESS WHAT GIVES ME PAUSE ABOUT THIS.

I DO APPRECIATE THE FINDINGS OF BECAUSE IN MY DISTRICT THE PROBLEM, THE TOUCH POINT ALL ROADS LEAD BACK TO CHESWICK OAKS, ALL THOSE DOLLARS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NEED TO BE ALLOCATED AND ASSESSED BY DEVELOPERS. I THINK THAT -- I WANT TO SAY THIS AS POLISHED AS I CAN. WE HAD THESE DETAILS ALREADY BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS THAT CAME TO US BEFORE.

BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO TPO EARLIER THIS YEAR THEIR CONCERN WAS CONNECTIVITY ALSO. THEY WANTED TODAY KNOW HOW TO GET -- I MEAN, OF COURSE MY CHESWICK OAKS, MY FOLKS OUT THERE TELL ME THE SAME THING EVERY TIME, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED.

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I GUESS FOR ME, LIKE I SAID I DO APPRECIATE THE STUDY, BUT ALL IT DOES IS HIGHLIGHT A PROBLEM AREA THAT WE ALREADY KNEW WE HAD.

>> SO THERE ARE TWO OTHER ROADS IMPORTANT TO

YOUR AREA. >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OLD

JENNINGS. >> LONG BAY ROAD AND OLD JENNINGS. SO WE HAVE OTHERSOTHERS ARE NOT QUITE -- THAT ARE SPREADING OUT IN YOUR

DISTRICT. >> YOU ALSO HAVE THE -- I THINK ANOTHER ONE A BIG ONE IS THE LONG BAY EXTENSION TO THE NORTH

THERE. >> YEAH, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT THERE WERE -- THERE'S A LOT INTO

THAT. >> THERE IS, BUT THERE'S LESS BAKED INTO THAT. THAT'S LIKE MAKING BISCUITS INSTEAD OF CINNAMON ROLLS.

>> YOU'RE COMPARING IT TO CHESWICK, YES.

ONLY IF WE'RE COMPARING IT TO

CHESWICK. >> I

AGREE. >> POINT

WELL-MADE. >> SO MAYBE IF YOU'LL HELP ME WITH MY MEMORY, AND I KIND OF UNDERSTAND, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND ONE OF THE FRUSTRATIONS, I THINK, IS THAT THEY THEN GET ALL KINDS OF CREDITS TO BUILD.

AND SO LIKE ON -- FOR INSTANCE CLAY DAIRY PARKWAY IS ON HERE. IT'S $150 MILLION ROAD, AND THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE MOSTLY BUILT BY DEVELOPERS FOR MOBILITY FEE CREDITS OR NOT? LIKE, SOME OF THESE ROADS LIKE FOR COMMISSIONER COMPERE, CHESWICK, AND SOME OF THESE OTHERS EXPANDING THROUGH THE KEYSTONE AREA WHERE IT'S NOT RIGHT-OF-WAY, IT'S NOT PROHIBITIVE AND NOT EVEN ON ANYONE'S RADAR. THOSE ARE NOT EVEN LIKELY TO HAPPEN IN OUR LIFETIME. BUT CLAY DAIRY THEY IS SAY IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

IN FACT, I HAD SOMEONE TO TRY TO TELL ME IT'S IMMINENT, THE BEGINNING PHASES OF IT. WHAT'S INTERESTING TO ME THEY WERE TRYING TO USE IT TO MAKE A DIFFERENT ARGUMENT, HOWEVER -- THAT I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT TODAY. BUT I JUST WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE CREDITS.

>> SO I THINK RICHARD CAN BE A BIG PART OF THIS CONVERSATION.

YES, IF THE ROAD -- THAT'S THE WHOLE KEY OF THIS MOBILITY LIST. IT'S ON THIS LIST, AND Y'ALL TELL ME IF I'M SPEAKING. IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT IT'S NEEDED AND THAT'S WHY IT'S ON THIS LIST, SO THAT'S WHY THERE IS THE OPTION IF A BUILDER, A DEVELOPER BUILDS IT, THEY CAN GET CREDIT FOR THAT BECAUSE OF THE BENEFIT OF THAT ROAD. ALSO, MOST OF THE TIMES IF YOU TALK TO THOSE GUYS OR GALS, THEY'LL TELL YOU THEY CAN BUILD IT FOR CHEAPER THAN THAT, RIGHT? CHEAPER THAN WE CAN BUILD IT. SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF IT.

AND I HAD ANOTHER THOUGHT.

>> AND IT ALSO EXPEDITES THE PROCESS BECAUSE THEY'RE MOTIVATED AND THEY'RE READY TO BUILD. THEY'VE GOT THE MONEY AVAILABLE, AND THEY CAN BUILD IT AND WE OFFER THE CREDIT.

IF WE'RE READY TO CORRECT THE FEES, IT'S GOING TO TAKE US A LOT LONGER TO BUILD IT. MY OTHER THOUGHT WAS THAT MY OLDER 50 BRAIN FORGOT FOR A SECOND WAS THE FACT CATHEDRAL PARK IS A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE. SO THE WESTERN EDGE OF IT, WHICH WAS MOSTLY MOBILITY FEE CREDIT IS FOUR-LANED. IT'S READY TO GO FOR A WHILE. THE COUNTY PORTION IS STILL TWO LANES, RIGHT? WHICH I THINK IS PROBABLY -- IF THIS IS PROBABLY STILL ON HERE TO MAKE IT FOUR LANES. SO WHAT YOU GET NOW IF IT'S A DEVELOPER BUILT AND THEY GET CREDIT, THIS IS THE PROJECT YOU GET NOW.

AND IF IT'S A COUNTY BUILT, THIS IS AS MUCH AS WE CAN SQUEEZE OUT

OF THAT. >> HOW DO THOSE CREDITS WORK? THEY'RE ONLY VALID IN THE SAME DISTRICT, OR THEY'RE VALID ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY?

>> THEY'RE VALID IN THE SAME DISTRICT UNLESS THEY CAN PROVE BY TRAFFIC STUDY AND ANALYSIS THAT THEY BENEFITTED SOME OTHER DISTRICT. SOMETIMES NOT FREQUENTLY.

SOMETIMES IF IT'S AN ADJOINING DISTRICT, THAT CORRELATION CAN BE DRAWN BY TRAFFIC STUDY.

>> AND DO THEY EVER EXPIRE?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

>> I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK STATUTE HAS MADE CREDITS PRETTY FLEXIBLE.

>> AND THE REASON THAT I BRING THAT UP, AND I KNOW THAT I'VE TOLD Y'ALL THIS BEFORE, BUT THIS WAS A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO I BROUGHT THIS UP.

THE SCHOOL DISTRICT GOT BURNED PRETTY BAD WHEN I WAS ON THE SCHOOL BOARD BECAUSE SOMEBODY IN FLEMING ISLAND POPPED UP AND HAD CREDITS THAT WERE OVER 20 YEARS OLD. WAIT, LET ME USE THESE, AND IT WAS LIKE, WHOA, BECAUSE IT HURT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT

GREATLY. >> WE DON'T LIKE IT EITHER BUT --

>> IF WE COULD MAKE THEM USE

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THEM. >> QUESTION, IS THAT THROUGH THE STATE STATUTE? OKAY. PERFECT.

>> BUT IT'S A DOUBLE- EDGED SWORD.

YOU KNOW YOU GET CREDIT 2025, AND IF YOU USE THEM 2045 IT WOULD HAVE TRIPLED THE COST OF THAT ROAD OR WHATEVER THEY GOT CREDIT FOR, SO IT KIND OF MAY ITSELF OUT. I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING.

>> OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

>> OKAY, GO AHEAD.

>> THE GRAPHIC YOU HAVE WITH A LITTLE GUY ON A BICYCLE? IS THAT A MOTORCYCLE, A BICYCLE, OR ELECTRIC

BIKE? >> WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE IT TO BE, COMMISSIONER?

>> WELL, MY REAL QUESTION IS, AND SOMEONE MENTIONED IT WE'VE GOT MORE AND MORE E- BIKES, THE GOLF CARTS AND THINGS AS SUCH, SO HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR THOSE IN THESE TRAFFIC STUDIES?

>> WE DO -- IN THIS ACTIVITY- BASED MODEL WE DO HAVE GENERATED BY DIFFERENT MODES, SO THE MODEL WAS BASED -- WE DID WE HAVE SOME SURVEY DATA BUT ALSO CENSUS DATA, AND WE LOOK AT ALL THESE DIFFERENT SOURCES TO THE POSSIBILITY IS OF USING DIFFERENT MODES, AND IT'S BASED ON HOUSEHOLD CHARACTERISTICS A LOT.

WE HAVE AGE.

WE KNOW IF THERE'S CHILDREN IN THE HOUSEHOLD, WHAT THE AVERAGE AGE OF PEOPLE IN THE HOUSEHOLD, SO THERE'S A LOT OF DATA AND ANALYTICS THAT GOES INTO THAT TO ESTABLISH WHAT PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WOULD MAKE THE TRIP BY BIKE, AND WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE TIME THEY WOULD DO THAT.

>> GETTING MORE AND MORE -- ARE THESE MICROTRANSPORTATION UNITS, AND I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THEY SHOULD BE ON A SIDEWALK OR A BIKE LANE OR IN A TRAFFIC LANE, QUITE

HONESTLY. >> YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AND IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND IN DIFFERENT AREAS AND DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, THEY HAD TO MAKE DIFFERENT DECISIONS BASED ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE CHOOSING TO USE THAT MODE.

BUT, YEAH, IT'S DEFINITELY ENABLED PEOPLE TO TRAVEL FARTHER WITH A CHEAPER MODE, WHICH INCREASES THE MOBILITY OF THE

PEOPLE. >> WE'RE LOOKING 2040, 2045.

I MEAN, THAT'S A LONG WAY OUT. A LOT OF THINGS ARE GOING TO

CHANGE. >> YES.

THAT'S WHY THOSE PLANS ARE UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS TO TAKE THESE CHANGES INTO ACCOUNT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> SO, YEAH. THANK YOU.

WE'RE STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PRESENTATION. WITH YOUR PERMISSION --

>> OH, I THOUGHT HE ASKED FOR

QUESTIONS. >> WELL, HE JUST DID THAT BECAUSE HE THOUGHT MAYBE AT THAT POINT SOMEBODY HAD QUESTION, BUT WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES, NOT MANY. BUT IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TO GO OVER THE REST OF THE SLIDES, WITH YOUR PERMISSION.

>> WE CAN DO IT AT THE END, I

GUESS. >> DON'T

FORGET IT. >> I KNOW IT.

IT'S A LOT.

>> THE NEXT ONE CLEARLY SHOWS HOW THE CALCULATION IS DONE, SO I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT SLIDE.

IT SHOWS ALL THE DIFFERENT INPUTS, VARIABLES, DATA POINTS.

SO, JONATHAN.

>> THANK YOU. I THINK THE DETOUR WAS HELPFUL HERE BECAUSE THERE'S A KIND OF THE DEMAND SIDE AND THE PROJECT SIDE, WHICH NOW WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF CONVERSATION WITH. AND THAT ESTABLISHES THE MOBILITY FEE RATE, WHICH IS THAT DOLLAR PER PERSON MILE OF TRAVEL. NOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, HOWEVER, LIKE COMMISSIONER CONDON SAID, IT MATTERS WHO'S GOING TO PAY THAT FEE. SO THIS IS THE CALCULATION FOR HOW THAT FEE IS ESTABLISHED. EVERY LAND USE HAS A TRIP RATE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, AND THEN WE'RE USING NATIONAL GUIDANCE CALLED INSTITUTED TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS OR ITE. AND BASED ON THE LAND USE TYPE, THERE'S AN IMPACT HOW MUCH LAND USE GENERATES.

SO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME GENERATES SOMEWHERE AROUND TEN TRIPS PER DAY, FOR EXAMPLE. AN OFFICE BUILDING IS AROUND 1.

5 TRIPS FOR I THINK PER PEAK PEERYARD AT THE END OF THE DAY FOR EVERY 1,000 SQUARE FEET FOR EVERY TWO OR THREE EMPLOYEES, FOR EXAMPLE. SO THOSE ARE THE TRIP RATES. THEN EVERY DISTRICT, SO THIS GOES AGAIN TO HOW THOSE DISTRICTS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT HERE. EVERY DISTRICT HAS A TRADITIONAL OR AVERAGE TRIP LENGTH ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

AND WE HAVE COLLECTED THAT DATA FROM THOSE SURVEYS, AND THAT SURVEY WENT INTO THE TRAVEL MODEL.

EVERY DISTRICT IS CUSTOMIZED. THE TRIP LENGTHS IN LAKE ASBURY IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM SOUTH CLAY. THEN WE HAVE THE FACT DIFFERENT LAND USES GENERATE DIFFERENT IMPACT ON THE NETWORK.

YOU MIGHT GENERATE TEN TRIPS ON A HOUSE, AND WE'RE SAYING 100% OF THOSE TRIPS ARE NEW PEOPLE.

IF I WERE TO PUT A GAS STATION IN, A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE WOULD BE COMING IN BUT NOT GENERATING NEW USERS TO THE SYSTEM, LET'S SAY.

THAT IS A REDUCTION IF YOU'RE LAND USE IDENTIFIED BY ITE AS

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SO THIS IS THE DOUBLE COUNTY FACTOR.

SO WHAT IS THE PROBABILITY OF A NEW HOUSEHOLD THEN THAT'S GOING TO A WORKPLACE THAT'S ALSO WITHIN THE COUNTY? BECAUSE WE'RE ASSESSING THE PERSON MILES OF TRAVEL, WHICH IS THE FULL DISTANCE BETWEEN THE ORIGIN AND A DESTINATION, WE WANT TO CUT THAT TRIP IN HALF AND ASSESS ONE PART OF THE TRIP ON THE ORIGIN SIDE AND ONE TRIP ON THE DESTINATION SIDE. SO THERE'S A FACTOR THAT ACCOUNTS FOR THAT. THEN THERE'S A REGIONAL ROAD FACTOR, WHICH WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR THAT SAYS OUT OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF VMT OR THE CAR TRIPS POTENTIALLY BECAUSE WE'RE SAYING PEDESTRIANS CAN'T USE THE TOLL ROAD OR OTHER MAJOR FACILS ITIES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OUR CONTROL. WE'RE DISCOUNTING A PORTION OF THE TRAVEL THAT OCCURS ON FACILITIES THAT WE'RE NOT CONTRIBUTING TO. SO THAT'S WHERE THERE'S A REDUCTION IN -- IN THE ACTUAL ASSESSMENT ON A PARTICULAR LAND USE.

WE THEN HAVE THAT FACTOR THAT CONVERTS FOR HOW MANY PERSONS OF MILES OF TRAVEL FOR EVERY VEHICLE MILES OF TRAVEL.

SO THAT GOES TO THE LAST, COMMISSIONERS, FOR INSTANCE LAKE ASBURY IN THE FUTURE INCREASES THE WALKING TRIPS.

THE ITE TRIP RATE ONLY TELLS US THE VEHICLE TRIPS. SO CONVERTING FROM VEHICLES TO PERSONS USING THIS FACTOR. THEN WE HAVE THE FEE RATE, WHICH IS THAT PMT NUMBER AT THE END.

THAT'S THE IMPORTANT NUMBER THAT WE'VE JUST BEEN DISCUSSING. THE NET MOBILITY OR THE MOBILITY FEE AT THE END OF THE DAY IS THE MULTIPLICATION OF ALL THESE DIFFERENT FACTORS TOGETHER.

AND AFTER THAT WE REDUCE THE FEE FOR CREDITS. AND THAT COULD BE IF AN INFRASTRUCTURE CREDIT, LIKE WE JUST DISCUSSED, IF SOMEONE HAS THE WHEREWITHAL TO BUILD A PARTICULAR ROADWAY FACILITY LET'S SAY OR THE MOBILITY HUB. IF THEY WERE TO BUILD THAT, THEN THEY GET THAT DOLLAR VALUE BACK IN CREDIT, AND THEY CAN REDUCE THEIR MOBILITY FEE LIABILITY. THE OTHER TYPE OF CREDIT IS THAT WE REALIZE, AND I THINK THE SOUTH CLAY PROJECT ILLUSTRATES THIS AS WELL THAT THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO USE THAT ROADWAY THAT DON'T LIVE OR THEY MAY NOT EVEN GO TO ANY LAND USE IN ANY CLAY COUNTY.

SO AT THE END OF THE DAY THERE'S SOMEWHERE AROUND 13 OR 12% OF THE AMOUNT OF TRAVEL THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE TRAVEL THAT'S NOT ASSOCIATED WITH LAND USE IN THE COUNTY. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GENERATE SUFFICIENT REVENUE JUST BY COLLECTING FOR THE FEES.

SO I THINK, AGAIN, COMMISSIONER CONDON, I THINK YOU ILLUSTRATED WHERE'S THE REVENUE GOING TO COME FROM? WHO ARE WE CHARGING? THAT THE THESE PROJECTS, THEY DO EXCEED OUR FULL CAPACITY TO GET REVENUE. AND SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS USE, MUCH LIKE WE HAVE BEEN DOING OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO USE THE FUEL TAX, THE SECOND LOFT, AND WE MIGHT NEED MONEY FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE SALES SURTAX.

RIGHT NOW IT APPEARS THE REVENUE COLLECTED BY THE COUNTY FOR THE LOFT IS SUFFICIENT TO PAY FOR THAT AMOUNT OF -- THE GAP IN REVENUE, IF YOU WILL, DUE TO EXTERNAL PEOPLE CONSUMING THE CAPACITY ON THE SYSTEM.

SO I'VE GOT ONE MORE SLIDE AND THEN HAPPY TO ANSWER, AGAIN, FURTHER QUESTIONS AND HAVE DISCUSSION.

SO SOME KEY TAKE- AWAYS, WE WANT TO BE RESPONSIVE.

WE WANT TO UPDATE THIS FEE. WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE CHANGING NATURE OF THE STATE STATUTES.

NOW, THEY'VE BEEN REALLY CHANGING IN THE WAY THAT MOBILITY FEES NEED TO BE CONSTRUCTED AND DESIGNED. WE ARE CONSIST WITH THE CURRENTLY IMPOSED FEES, SO THE COUNTY'S BEEN MANAGING THOSE FEES FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AND SO THERE'S AN EMPHASIS TO TRY TO CONSISTENT -- MAKE THIS CONSIST, MAKE IT EASY AND STREAM LINED SO THAT WE CAN MANAGE THIS GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURECH THE FEE RATE REMAINS UNDER THE 50% INCREASE WE'VE BEEN AIMING FOR AT THE STATUTE BASED ON THAT MOBILITY FEE RATE PER DISTRICT. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'LL WRAP UP.

WE'VE GOT A THANK YOU SLIDE, BUT HAPPY TO KEEP THIS ON THE SCREEN IF WE WANT TO BOUNCE BACK ON AND ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

THAT'S IT FOR ME. THANK

YOU. >> COMMISSIONER

SGROMOLO. >> YEAH, MY QUESTION WAS DOES STATE STATUTE LAY OUT THE NUMBER TOTAL NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT CAN BE INTO THE STUDY AS FAR AS -- HOW DOES THAT WORK?

>>IA GO AHEAD, JONATHAN.

>> THE STATUTE DOES NOT STIPULATE ANY TYPE OF CONSTRAINT AS TO THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS.

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THOSE HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED REALLY BY CASE LAW AND BY PRECEDENT FOR MOBILITY FEES OR IMPACT FEES PROCEEDING THIS, OTHER THAN ENSURING THAT DOUBLE -- THAT RATIONAL NEXUS JEANETTE POINTED OUT IN THE BEGINNING THAT GROWTH DOESN'T PAY MORE THAN ITS FAIR SHARE. THAT'S REALLY THE CRITICAL PIECE

OF THIS. >> GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

>> OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AGRICOLA FARMS INTO LAKE LAKE ASBURY I LOOKED AT THE PROJECT LIST AND CLAY DAIRY PARKWAY U.S.

17 TO U.S. 16 SAYS IT'S IN LAKE LAKE ASBURY, BECAUSE IT GOES RIGHT BESIDE AGRICOLA FARMS BECAUSE NOW WITH BTI OWNING BOTH DEVELOPMENTS, I GUESS I WOULD JUST QUESTION THAT. DO YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING?

>> NO, I DON'T.

>> SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE PROJECT, THAT'S THE BIG $99 MILLION ONE ON THE PROJECT LIST, AND -- GO

AHEAD. >> CLAY DAIRY PARKWAY ISIS

RED. >> YEAH.

BUT THEY'RE GOING TO GO UP BECAUSE BTI TOLD US THEY'RE CONNECTING -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ROAD'S CALLED, BUT THEY'RE CONNECTING FROM INSIDE. SO GO FROM 17 WEST, THEY'RE CONNECTING THAT ROAD THAT GOES THROUGH AGRICOLA FARMS UP INTO GOVERNOR'S PARK TO CLAY DAIRY PARKWAY. TO ME THAT NEEDS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE $99 MILLION SO THAT THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE -- IT'S IMPORTANT TO MOVE PEOPLE.

>> RICHARD? >> RICHARD SMITH, COUNTY ENGINEER. A COUPLE THINGS CAME TO MY MIND IN THIS CONVERSATION, THE OPEN CONVERSATION WE HAD. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS EXACTLY RIGHT.

IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE PROJECT LIST.

THE PROJECT IS COMPLETELY WITHIN THE LAKE LAKE ASBURY DISTRICT, BUT EVERY DEVELOPMENT, EVERY ROOFTOP THAT COMES OFF THE CLAY CLAY DAIRY PARKWAY, THE MOBILITY FEE MAP BE REFLECTED AND THEY'RE NOT BUILDING THAT ROAD JUST TO BUILD TO THE EAST BETWEEN CLAY DAIRY AND 17, THAT AREA. THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING WESTERLY AS WELL, SO THAT NEEDS TO WON'T AFFECT THE PROJECT LIST. WE'RE NOT PUTTING ANY ROAD IN IN AGRICOLA. THEY'LL BUILD THAT WITH THEIR OWN PRIVATE MONEY AND DEVELOPMENT MONEY, SO THAT'S IMPORTANT. THE OTHER THING THAT CAME UP WAS SOMETHING THAT JONATHAN SAID WITH ME AND THIS MAY HIT A STRING WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER CONDON.

HE TALKED ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL THAT ANSWERS THE GROWTH BUT WHAT ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL THAT MOVES DOWN TO THUNDER ROAD. LEGAL, CAN THEY TAKE THEIR MOBILITY FEE AND SAY I'M BUILDING A NEW HOUSE, I'M NOT ADDING -- I'M NOT THAT INDIVIDUAL ADDING TO THE GROWTH.

IS THERE A WAY TO DO A LOCAL FACTOR THAT WAY TO JUST MAYBE THINK? BECAUSE JUNTHEN MADE A GOOD POINT, THIS IS NOT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE THATTHAT MOVING TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION, THIS IS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING IN FROM OTHER -- OUTSIDE THE COUNTY

BOUNDARIES. >> I THOUGHT WE ASKED THAT

BEFORE. >> WHAT'S

THAT? >> I THOUGHT WE ASKED THAT

BEFORE. >> WELL, I NEVER ASKED IT.

I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT.

>> WE DEFINITELY HAVE PEOPLE THAT

FEEL THAT WAY. >> I HAD ASKED FOR

EXEMPTIONS. >> AS THE STATUTE ALLOWED

US. >> WHAT'D YOU CALL IT A LOCAL

WHAT? >> LIKE PORTABILITY WITHIN THE COUNTY.

>> YOU'RE NOT ADDING -- YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE JUST AS MANY TRIPS TO WINN-DIXIE AS YOU WERE WHETHER YOU LIVED ON THUNDER ROAD OR, YOU KNOW, LAKE LAKE ASBURY DRIVE.

>> YOU'RE STILL ADDING. YOU'RE VACATING A HOUSE. IT'S GOING TO BE FILLED WITH SOMEBODY ELSE, AND THAT MOBILITY FEE, IMPACT

FEE. >> THERE'S TWO SIDES OF THAT.

WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE INDIVIDUAL COMING IN FROM OUTSIDE, THEIR FAMILY COMING IN, THAT MADE ME THINK --

>> DOES THAT ANALYSIS FOLD IN TO SOMEBODY -- WHAT IF IT'S SOMEBODY WITHIN THE COUNTY THAT'S MOVING IN? LIKE, IT'S NOT NECESSARY THE PERSON MOVING TOO U THE NEW VACANT HOME WOULD BE OUT OF COUNTY, SO HOW DO YOU CAPTURE THOSE?

>> I MOVE FROM ONE HOUSE IN THE COUNTY AD I PAID MY

FEES. >> I THINK THAT IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, IF YOU ARE IMPACTING WITH A NEW

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I THINK THAT THAT'S NOT AN EASY ONE TO WANT TO

MAKE. >> AGREED.

BUT WHEN I VACATED THE HOME I LEFT TO THE NEW ONE I BUILT, SOMEBODY ELSE MOVED INTO THAT ONE.

>> AND DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY IT.

>> SO IT IS ADDITIONAL IMPACT. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY.

MAYBE I CHARGED AND GOT MY MONEY OUT.

Y'ALL CAN'T HEAR ME?

>>÷÷ MS. STEWART, THE TEACHER.

>> I DON'T TYPICALLY GET I CAN'T HEAR YOU. I'LL SPEAK

INTO THE MIC. >> ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT THIS THE AGRICOLA PEOPLE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY WHAT HER DISTRICT IS PAYING --

>> I DON'T SEE

>> WHICH IS GOING TO BE A LOT

LESS THAN -- >> AND ONCE YOU'RE MOVED ON AND THE NEXT COMMISSIONER, THEY'RE GOING TO GET THOSE PHONE CALLS. YOU KNOW, WHY IS MY -- WELL, THEY MAY NOT, BUT IT'S -- THE BUILDER WILL HAVE IT.

>> BUT IF IT'S THE PEOPLE AROUND THERE THAT HAVE A BUNCH OF LAND THAT HAVE BEEN THERE, IS IT JUST AGRICOLA THAT WILL BE ADDED OR ASBURY ADDED BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE

SAME PEOPLE? >> EVERYTHING ELSE I THINK IS SOUTH OF THE URBAN SERVICE AREA.

HONESTLY I'M 90% SURE THAT'S WHY WE DID THE MAP THE WAY WE DID IT IS BECAUSE OF THAT URBAN SERVICE BOUNDARY.

>> IT LOOKS LIKE IT. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING -- BUT IT SAID IT WASN'T UPDATED SINCE 2020, AND AGRICOLA DIDN'T CHANGE UNTIL AFTER

THAT. >> ARE YOU ADDING AGRICOLA IN OR

NOT? >> THAT'S ON MY TO- DO LIST -- OUR TO- DO LIST.

>> YEAH, I WOULDN'T BE IN FAVOR OF JUST THAT WHOLE SIDE, BUT I THINK FOLLOWING THE URBAN SERVICE BOUNDARY IS APPROPRIATE. BECAUSE NOW I'M MUCH MORE EDUCATED, AND I'LL NEVER VOTE TO CHANGE THE URBAN SERVICE

BOUNDARY. >> I THINK THINKING ABOUT THE GENERATIONAL LAND PEOPLE AROUND

IT. >> EXACTLY.

NOW, OBVIOUSLY, LIKE, THE PROPERTY BY THE FAIRGROUNDS, IT'S ALREADY IN THERE.

>> I WILL SAY, THANK YOU. I KNOW YOU'VE WORKED REALLY HARD AND STAFF HAS WORKED REALLY HARD. I APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE WE HAVE

QUESTIONS. >> I WOULD JUST ADD THE COMMENT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP WORKING, AND THERE'S MORE WORK TO BE DONE BEFORE IT COMES BACK TO YOU IN JANUARY. STAKEHOLDERS, I'VE TOLD THEM THAT AS WELL. IF YOU HAVE QUESTION, SEND US E-MAILS. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY.

SEND US E-MAILS.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE

OPPORTUNITY. >> THANK

YOU. >> THANK

YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, IT IS WELL AFTER

[13.  RFQ No. 24/25-127, Construction Manager at Risk (CMAR) services for Substance Use Disorder Recovery Center Presentations (K. Smith)]

AND WE HAVE THREE PRESENTATIONS. AND KAREN, DO YOU WANT TO KIND OF GIVE US THE GROUND RULES ON THAT?

>> SURE. SO, YES, CORRECT. THIS WAS CARRY OVER FROM LAST BOARD MEETING, THE TOP- THREE RANKED CONTRACTORS HERE TO GIVE PRESENTATIONS FOR CMAR SERVICES FOR THE BUILDING AS YOU INDICATED. THERE WILL BE GIVEN IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER.

THEY ARE ACTUALLY FOLLOWED WITHIN ORDER OF RANKING ALSO. EACH- OF YOU SHOULD HAVE A SCORING SHEET IN FRONT OF YOU. SO AFTER PRESENTATIONS, THE INDIVIDUAL PRESENTATIONS, YOU CAN ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF THE CONTRACTORS AT THAT TIME.

AFTER ALL THREE PRESENTATIONS ARE GIVEN, THEN YOU WILL SCORE ONE TO THREE, ONE BEING YOUR TOP CHOICE.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> PRESENTATIONS ARE HOW LONG?

>> WE ASK THAT THEY STICK TO 5 MINUTES.

>> WE ACTUALLY SAID 5 TO 10 MINUTES JUST TO -- ALL

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>> BILLY DALE TYSON, CHIEF

OFFICER. >> CINDY RICE, PROJECT DEVELOPMENT MANAGER AULD & WHITE

CONSTRUCTORS. >> IN THE EARLY '90S I HAD A FAMILY MEMBER THAT WAS RECEIVING TREATMENT FOR A MENTAL HEALTH DISORDER, AND MY MOM WOULD OFTEN TALK ABOUT THE LONG DRIVE THAT SHE HAD TO MAKE TO BAKER COUNTY. WE LIVED REALLY CLOSE TO THE ORANGE PARK MALL AT THE TIME. AND THE ANXIOUSNESS OF THE DRIVE OUT THERE AND THE STRESS AND REALLY THE FRUSTRATION OF THE DRIVE HOME. YOU KNOW, PROVIDING CLOSE PROXIMITY FOR MENTAL HEALTH IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL FOR OUR RESIDENTS IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA. I APPLAUD CLAY COUNTY FOR MAKING ANOTHER STEP IN THAT DIRECTION.

THIS IS THE TYPE OF PROJECT THAT GETS ME EXCITED FOR THE TYPE OF WORK WE DO AT AULD AND WHITE, PROJECTS THAT IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY AND PROJECTS WE CAN GET BEHIND.

WE HAVE NEARLY 20 EMPLOYEES THAT WORK AND LIVE.

MY FAMILY ALSO HAS A BUSINESS IN KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. SOMEONE WILL BE IMPACTED BY THE PROJECT WHEN IT'S COMPLETED. AULD & WHITE HAS THE EXPERTISE TO COMPLETE THIS FOR CLAY COUNTY. I THINK THE KEY THING IS OUR ABILITY TO SELF-PERFORM WORK AND ALSO OUR EXTREMELY DEEP BENCH. I'M A BASEBALL PLAYER AND THE ABILITY TO BRING THE RIGHT TEAM TO THE END OF THE GAME IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL TO GETTING THE WORK DONE. AND THE TEAM WE'VE SELECTED HAS KEY ATTRIBUTES THAT I THINK PROVIDE A DIFFERENTIATOR FOR AULD & WHITE.

MENTAL HEALTH PROJECTS, WHICH WE HAVE A LOT OF R\SUM\ FOR THAT.

AND ALSO PUBLIC PROJECTS, WHICH BRETT WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT TYPE OF PROJECT.

>> I'LL JUST STEP UP HERE SO YOU CAN HEAR ME. PUBLIC SECTOR PROJECTS ARE UNIQUE PROJECTS, AND WE'RE UNIQUELY POSITIONED TO SUCCESSFULLY DELIVER THESE PROJECTS FROM PRECONSTRUCTION FROM ESTIMATED INTO CONSTRUCTION.

WE'VE GOT SEVERAL CMAR RELATIONSHIPS INCLUDING DUVAL ST. JOHN'S COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND OTHERS IN SOUTHEAST FLORIDA. WE'VE DEVELOPED SEVERAL PURPOSE BUILT PROJECTS SIMILAR TO THE PROJECT WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS EVENING, AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING EXTENSIVELY ON THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH FLORIDA CAMPUS ALONG WITH OTHER CMAR RELATIONSHIPS OVER THE YEARS. WE CONSIDER OURSELVES BUILDERS, BUT WE'RE UNIQUELY POSITIONED AS TENANT BUILDER. WE UNDERSTAND THE RISKS ÚINVOLVED WITH REMODELING AN EXISTING BUILDING THAT CAN AFFECT SCHEDULE AND COST, AND WE'RE PREPARED TO HANDLE AND DEAL AND GET AHEAD OF THOSE RISKS.

FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS WE'VE BEEN CONSISTENTLY RANKED AS A TOP 20 BUILDER IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA, AND WE'VE BEEN RANKED NUMBER ONE FOR FOUR YEARS OVER FOUR YEARS

RUNNING. >> MY JOB IS TO DEVELOP THE PROJECT THROUGH PRECONSTRUCTION. THE VERY FIRST THING WE'RE GOING TO DO IS DEVELOP A SCHEDULE NOT JUST FOR PRECONSTRUCTION BUT THROUGH THE FINAL CONSTRUCTION COMPLETION DATE. THAT WAY FROM THE VERY GET GO WE ARE FOCUSED ON WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN NOW IN ORDER TO MEET THAT COMPLETION DATE THEN. WE'RE GOING TO GET DESIGN DELIVERABLES FROM WALKER ARCHITECTS.

WE'RE GOING TO GET THOSE DATES, WHAT PERMITS ARE NEEDED, AND LONG- TERM ITEMS. WITH EACH DESIGN DELIVERABLE, OUR ESTIMATORS ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU A BUDGET. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO DO A BUDGET CHECK AS THE DESIGN IS PROGRESSING BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN WE CAN MAKE VALUABLE CHANGES.

WE CAN PROPOSE VALUE ENGINEERING ALTERNATIVES, COST ALTERNATIVES. SO WHEN WE FINALLY GO TO THE MARKET WITH THIS PROJECT, THERE ARE NO SURPRISES.

WE KNOW THE BUDGET, AND WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PAY TO GET THAT DONE.

WALKER ARCHITECTS, YOUR ARCHITECT WILL BE DOING DESIGN, QUALITY CONTROL IN COORDINATION WITH THEIR SUBCONSULTANTS. WHEN WE GET THE SET OF DESIGNS WE'RE GOING TO DO A CONSTRUCTABILITY REVIEW AND LOOK AT IT FROM A BUILDER'S PERSPECTIVE. IS THIS BUILDABLE? AND WHAT OTHER DETAILS DO WE NEED? BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO START THE JOB I BE HELD UP WITH ANY OF THOSE TWO THINGS OUTSTANDING. WE HAVE TWO PERMIT SPECIALISTS ON STAFF AND THEIR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE ALL THE PERMITS WHEN WE NEED THEM SO

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THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS EASY. AND THAT REALLY IS MY JOB, TO MAKE THIS EASY FOR YOU SO WE CAN SET THE PROJECT UP RIGHT BEFORE WE EVER MOBILIZE ON SITE.

>> SO I'LL BE WORKING WITH CINDY TO PROVIDE CONTINUITY PRECONSTRUCTION AND INTO CONSTRUCTION.

JUST KIND OF SPEAKING TO PROJECT APPROACH WE UNDERSTAND THAT SCHEDULE, QUALITY, BUDGET ARE VERY IMPORTANT FOR THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS.

AND WE'RE A PROCESS ORI WANTED COMPANY, WHICH IS NOT A VERY SEXY THING TO TALK ABOUT BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

IT'S CRITICAL TO DELIVER THESE PROJECTS SUCCESSFULLY, SO WE MANAGE THESE THINGS ON SUCH A SCHEDULE AS OUR KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS, TRACKING PROJECT MILESTONES THROUGH THE COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION SO WE CAN DELIVER THIS PROJECT ON TIME.

WE LOVE THIS CONSTRUCTION BUT WE'RE PUTTING IT THROUGH YOUR COMMUNITY TO UTILIZE, SO IT'S IMPORTANT WE MAIN THANE THAT SCHEDULE. FROM QUALITY STANDPOINT WE HAVE REGULAR PREINSTALLATION SYSTEMS TO ENSURE YOU HAVE A QUALITY PROJECT THAT LAST AS LONG TIME. BUDGET FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT, WHICH IS VERY CRITICAL. YOU KNOW THIS IS A VERY FLUID MARKET. CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE BEEN RISING. MATERIALS HAVE BEEN HARD TO COME BY. WE GET AHEAD OF THAT BY EARLY PROCUREMENT. WE BUY OUT OUR SUBCONTRACTS AND TRACK PROCUREMENT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE PROCURED TO AVOID ANY RISKS TO THE COST OF THE PROJECT. JUST KIND OF MENTIONING PROJECT EXPERIENCE REAL QUICK, CINDY HAD MENTIONED THE FLAGLER CENTRAL RECEIVING PROJECT. WE UNDERSTAND AND WORK WITH THE DESIGN TEAM ON THINGS LIKE NONRESTRAINT FIXTURES, DURABLE SURFACES, ALL THESE THINGS CRITICAL FOR THIS TYPE OF FACILITY TO MAKE SURE THEY GET SPECIFIED PROPERLY AND INSTALLED PROPERLY ON THIS PROJECT.

>> THE NEED FOR REHABILITATION FACILITIES IS GROWING, AND OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS IT FOR THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING.

BILLY DALE SHARED HOW IT AFFECTED HIS FAMILY.

I THINK WE ALL AGREE WE HAVE A SIMILAR STORY WE CAN SHARE. AULD & WHITE IS PROUD TO DEVELOP THESE FACILITIES WHERE THEY ARE NEEDED THE MOST.

FLAGLER COUNTY. YOU HAVE HELPED IN SAUNT JOHN'S, CRITICAL ASSESSMENT RENOVATION AND REFERRALS, IMPORTANT TO GET IT DONE QUICKLY. AS A NAVY VETERAN AND MOTHER OF A NAVY PILOT I'VE BEEN VERY INVOLVED SINCE I CAME TO AULD & WHITE CONSTRUCTORS. THE PROJECT YOU SEE ON THERE IS THE PROJECT WE'RE DOING WITH THE SAME ARCHITECT YOU'LL BE UTILIZING.

I RECOGNIZE K9S FOR WARRIORS PROVIDES A DIFFERENT TYPE REHABILITATION FACILITY THAN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FACILITY FOR OUR WARRIORS WHO SACRIFICED SO MUCH TO KEEP US

SAFE. >> I TALKED ABOUT AT THE START IT REALLY COMES DOWN DO YOU HAVE THE PASSION AND DO YOU HAVE THE EXPERTISE IN ORDER TO COMPLETE A PROJECT LIKE THIS? WE SHARED ABOUT OUR PASSION FOR PROJECTS. YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY, WHERE OUR PEOPLE LIVE, PLAY, AND SLEEP.

AND APPARENTLY WE'VE GOT MOBILITY FEES WE'VE GOT TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT. THIS IS AN INTERESTING PROCESS.

REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT Y'ALL TAKE. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT IT'S A SHORT WEEK. THE ONLY THING I WANT TO BE VOTING ON THIS WEEK IS YAMS OR NO YAMS, SO I DO APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU TAKE TO GO THROUGH THIS. WE WANT TO BE YOUR PARTNER IN THIS PROCESS, AS WE'VE PARTNERED WITH NUMEROUS OTHER ENTITIES WE'VE DISCUSSED. WOULD LOVE TO OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS, BUT, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME HERE TODAY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR AULD & WHITE? THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. I'M RYAN TAYLOR WITH SCORPIO CONSTRUCTION. I'M THE DEVELOPMENT OPERATIONAL MANAGER HERE FOR OUR NORTH EAST FLORIDA TEAM. WE'RE SUPER EXCITED TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE

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WE'VE GOT THE RIGHT FOLKS THAT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COUNTY IS EXPECTING FROM OUR PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE AS WELL AS UNDERSTANDING FACILITIES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH HEALTH CARE AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THE AKA INSPECTIONS THAT GO ALONG WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA REQUIREMENTS. THIS IS OUR TEAM. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY IS THIS IS A TEAM WITH A WELL OF EXPERIENCE AND UNDERSTAND HOW TO WORK ON PROJECTS LIKE THIS.

BUT THE MAIN THING IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FOCUS ON CLAY COUNTY.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOUR PRIORITIES BECOME OUR PRIORITIES AND WE'RE BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF TIME AND BUDGET.

THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH TIME YOU HAVE AND SO MUCH BUDGET AVAILABLE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE VERY COGNIZANT OF THAT.

HERE IT IS OUR PRESENTING TEAM, THE TEAM WITH ME TODAY.

OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS OVERSEEING THE BEGINNING OF PRECONSTRUCTION ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE WARRANTY PHASE. I'M GOING TO ENSURE WE'VE GOT THE RIGHT RESOURCES IN PLACE, AND AGAIN, OUR PRIORITIES WITH YOUR PRIORITIES AND WE'RE BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF YOUR BUDGET.

ANTONIO RIGHT HERE IS GOING TO BE OUR SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER. HE'S A MANAGER CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUILDING NEXT DOOR. HE HAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE BOTH WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS INTERIOR RENOVATIONS. HE'S GOT A DIVERSE BACKGROUND IN DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT HE'S DONE INCLUDING HEALTH CARE PROJECTS, WHICH I THINK ALIGNS VERY WELL WITH THIS PROJECT.

HE'S ALSO GOING TO BE OUR MAIN POINT OF CONTACT.

HE'S CURRENTLY OUR MAIN POINT CONTACT FOR THE COUNTY NOW AND BUILT GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH FOLKS, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT ON.

AND ROB FIELD HE'S CURRENTLY THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND. AND HIS THREE MAIN FOCUSES IS GOING TO BE QUALITY, IT'S INSTALLED CORRECTLY. SAFETY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY THAT COMES INTO THE PROJECT SITE ALSO GOES OUT OF THE PROJECT SITE THE SAME WAY, WALKING. AND LASTLY SCHEDULE, THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT HE'S GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON.

HE'S GOING TO MAKE SURE SUREWE STAY ÷÷WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE SCHEDULE AND ALLOW US TO MAXIMIZE THAT BUDGET. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ONTO SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE'VE DONE. WE'RE A COMMUNITY CENTERED BUILDER. WE FOCUS ON WORKING IN OUR COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE LIVE AND WORK IN. WE'VE HAD SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITIES HERE IN THE CLAY COUNTY AREA BOTH WORKING FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AS WELL AS HERE FOR THE COUNTY. ONE COUPLE I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IN THE UPPER LEFT- HAND CORNER IS OUR BUILD OUT OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HERE RECENTLY, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY DOWN THERE ON THE BOTTOM AND MIDDLE THERE IS OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUILDING THAT WE'RE VERY PROUD OF AND LOOKING FORWARD TO TURNING THAT OVER HERE IN FEBRUARY. I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR EXPERIENCE WORK IN HEALTH CARE-RELATED FACILITIES.

I KNOW THIS IS A SUBSTANCE USE FACILITY, BUT IT CORRELATES A LOT WITH OUR HEALTH CARE WORK. AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO MOST OF OUR HEALTH CARE WORK IN A RENOVATED- TYPE PROCESS, WHERE WE'VE GONE INSIDE HOSPITALS, WE'VE GONE INSIDE OTHER FACILITIES ASSOCIATED WITH HEALTH CARE AND DO RENOVATION WORK RIGHT NEXT TO PEOPLE THAT ARE OPERATING ON PEOPLE OR DOING DIAGNOSTICS NEXT TO IT.

SO WE HAVE A RELY GOOD KEEN UNDERSTANDING, AGAIN, WHAT IT TAKES FROM A HEALTH CARE PERSPECTIVE BUT ALSO WHAT A TAKES FROM AN AKA INSPECTION. ALSO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH WALKER ARCHITECTS.

WE'VE GOT 12 PLUS CLIENTS, $144 MILLION WORTH OF WORKWORK TOGETHER. AND THAT SPEAKS TO OUR ABILITY TO COLLABORATE, OUR ABILITY TO KEEP EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND OUR ABILITY TO WORK THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS AND MAKING SURE WE'RE STAYING IN OUR TIME CONSTRAINTS BUT WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT IS SET FOR THE PROJECT. SO IT CONTINUES TO BE THAT TIME AND BUDGET, TIME AND BUDGET.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING THOSE ALONG AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS.

AND THEN FOR EACH PROJECT THAT WE LIKE TO DO OR PRESENT ON, WE ALWAYS WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT'S THE WHY BEHIND THE PROJECT? WHAT ARE WE REALLY TRYING TO DO HERE? AND WE WANT TO APPLY IT TO THAT VISION. FIRST OF ALL CREATING SPACES THAT MATTERS FOR PEOPLE WHO CARE, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THERE. AND SUPPORTING THE COUNTY'S VISION OF HAVING EXCEPTIONAL SERVICES FOR YOUR RESIDENTS. AND LASTLY YOU WANT A FUNCTIONALITY, A SAFE AND PATIENT- ORIENTED FACILITY THAT YOU CAN SERVICE ALL OF THE RESIDENTS HERE IN THE COUNTY.

I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IF YOU ADD ALL THOSE UP IT'S REALLY ABOUT LAY COUNTY, HAVING A FACILITY

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YOU CAN DO IT RIGHT HERE AND SERVICE IN CLAY COUNTY.

THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO CAPTURE AND APPLY THAT TO HOW WE OPERATE AND HOW WE BUILD YOUR BUILDING.

THEN WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL PROJECT AND WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING ON THE PROJECT. IT REALLY STARTS WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE PROJECT. IT GOES WITH OUR CSI, AND THAT'S NOT CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION.

IT'S CIRCULATION, SEPARATION, AND ISOLATION. IT STARTS OFF WITH THE CIRCULATION PROCESS WHERE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHERE EVERYBODY IS. WE'RE SEPARATED FROM FOLKS IN AND AROUND THE FACILITY OR IN AND AROUND THE SITE.

AND THEN IT GOES INTO SEPARATION, WHERE WE'RE ASSIGNING OR WE'RE ESTABLISHING BOUNDARIES AROUND OUR BUILDING SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE THOSE BOUNDARIES ARE, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE IN AND OUT THAT DON'T NEED TO BE THERE. AND THEN FINALLY, THE ISOLATION, THAT'S THE COMPONENT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHERE ALL YOUR UTILITIES ARE.

WE DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE STREET OR BUILDINGS DOWN THE STREET. WE'RE MAKING SURE THOSE AREN'T INTERRUPTED. THIS IS HOW WE'VE APPLIED IT TO YOUR PROJECT. SO THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE FACILITY.

IT'S RIGHT THERE ON COUNTY ROAD 220.

THE FIRST COMPONENT THERE IS THE RIGHT ARROW.

THAT'S THE FIRST CIRCULATION ASPECT.

THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE PROJECT.

RIGHT NOW WE KNOW COUNTY ROAD 220 IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THERE'S COORDINATION WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN AND OUT OF THE SITE WITHOUTWITHOUT INTERRUPTION. YOU CAN SEE THE YELLOW LINE AROUND THE BUILDING THERE, THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR FENCE. THAT'S HOW WE KEEP OURSELVES AWAY FROM PEOPLE WALKING ON THE SIDEWALKS OR ANYONE ELSE CURIOUS OF THE BUILDING. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP IT LOCKED UP. LASTLY IT GOES BACK TO ISOLATION. YOU CAN SEE THE THREE DOTS UP THERE, GREEN, BLUE, AND RED, THAT'S WHERE WE'VE ALREADY WE NEED TO DO TO STAY AWAY FROM THOSE. AND THEN THE SCHEDULE. WE'VE ALREADY SENT DOWN THROUGH YOUR PROGRAMMING OUR PAST EXPERIENCES TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE NEED TO DO FROM A SCHEDULING STANDPOINT. SO WE TOOK SOME LIBERTY WITH WALKER'S DESIGN TIME. WE SAID, OKAY, IF THEY START IN JANUARY, LET'S SAY THEY'RE DONE THE END OF MAY, THAT'S ABOUT A FIVE-MONTH PERIOD THERE.

WE GET A MONTH TO PUT OUR GMP TOGETHER, AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO START THERE THE END OF JULY.

AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS WE THINK ABOUT A 7 TO 7 1/2 MONTH SCHEDULE, AND WE'D BE FINISHING UP THERE IN THE FIRST PART OF MARCH. THIS IS A VERY PRELIMINARY SCHEDULE. AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE DESIGN WITH WALKER MAYBE WE CAN TIGHTEN THIS UP AND ALLOW US TO BE REALLY EFFICIENT AND ALLOW YOU GUYS TO OPEN UP THE FACILITY AND GET IN THERE SOONER. AND THEN LASTLY I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A PROJECT I THINK HAS A LOT OF SIMILARITIES TO THE SUBSTANCE USE FACILITY. IT'S A PROJECT WE WORKED ON WITH WALKER A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

IT HAS A MULTITUDE OF DIFFERENT HEALTH CARE SERVICES INSIDE THE BUILDING.

ONE PART OF THAT IS SUBSTANCE USE FACILITY AREA.

IT'S MORE OF AN OUTPATIENT FACILITY, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY PART OF IT PROGRAMMING INSIDE THAT BUILDING. AND, AGAIN, IT WAS WORKING WITH WALKER, AND WE WERE ABLE TO MEET THE CLIENT'S BUDGET BUT ALSO MEET THE TIME FRAME THAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE GROUPGROUP HAVE HERE

TODAY. >> QUESTIONS?

COMMISSIONER BURKE. >> SO IN DESIGNING THIS, WHAT DO YOU -- WHAT DO YOU LOOK AT AS FAR AS PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING HERE ARE GOING TO NEED PRIVACY? WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE DESIGNING IT IN THAT REGARDS? BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE -- I WOULD NOT WANT TO JUST COME INTO A REGULAR OFFICE AND --

>> WELL, THERE'S ALWAYS DESIGN GUIDELINES, AND WALKER ARCHITECTS WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE IN TUNE WITH THE ACTUAL DESIGN. WE'LL BE MORE OF THE CONSTRUCTION PART OF THAT.

BUT WE'LL BE INTIMATELY INVOLVED WITH HOW THOSE WALLS GET SET UP, HOW MANY WALLS THERE ARE, WHAT'S THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

BUT DEFINITELY THERE WILL BE DEFINITELY SOME SORT OF ENTRANCE AREA SECURED.

AND THEN YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GO BACK THEREINTO THE IN PATIENT, OUTPATIENT AREAS FOR YOUR

PRIVACY. >> OKAY.

YOU HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY ON SUBSTANCE USE? YOU HAVE.

>> SPECIFICALLY THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA IT WAS A COMPONENT IN

THERE. >> THANK

YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> AND LASTLY BUT NOT LEAST, RIVERS.

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. WE HAVE BEEN DOING BUSINESS 50 YEARS HERE IN CLAY COUNTY.

WE KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE TAX DOLLARS IN CLAY COUNTY AND ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE RESIDENTS OF CLAY COUNTY.

70% OF OUR SUBCONTRACTORS ARE ALSO BASED HERE LOCALLY IN CLAY COUNTY.

WE JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH YOU AND CONTINUE WORKING WITH YOU.

THIS IS OUR PROPOSED PROJECT PERSONNEL TEAM.

HERE WITH ME TODAY I HAVE THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS, GINGER RIVERS, OUR PROJECT MANAGER, TIM. HE IS SPECIALIZED IN CMAR RENOVATIONS UNDER $4 MILLION. AND BUDDY ELLISON, HE'S OUR SENIOR RENOVATION SUPERINTENDENT.

HE'S HAD OVER 30 YEARS WORK ON RENOVATION EXPERIENCE AS A HANDS ON SUPERINTENDENT. AND SO THIS SLIDE JUST SHOWS TO YOU WE HAVE THE CAPACITY AND CAPABILITY, AND WE'RE AVAILABLE TO BE WORKING ON THIS SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER FACILITY PROJECT. AND NOW WE KNOW THAT THE COUNTY'S VERY COST CONSCIOUS, SO THESE THREE FACTORS PROVIDE THE MOST BENEFIT TO CLAY COUNTY.

BUDGET ESTIMATING AND VALUE ENGINEERING, COMPETITIVE BIDDING, ODP AND SALES TAX SAVINGS. AND SO LOOKING BACK A ON THE PROJECT WE'RE WORKING WITH YOU TODAY ON THE CLAY COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES PROJECT WE'VE SERVED TO DATE OVER $737,000, AND THAT'S JUST FROM THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWING DESIGN PHASE. YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE TO ABILITY TO PROVIDE MORE INPUT AT THETHE 60 AND 90% DESIGN PHASE, WE CAN PROVIDE A MUCH MORE SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF VALUE ENGINEERING.

COMPETITIVE BIDDING. AS I SAID WE'RE A LOCAL GC. A LOT OF OUR SUBS ARE FROM CLAY COUNTY, AND WITH THAT PROVIDES OVERHEAD COST. ODP AND SALES TAX SAVINGS ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

OUR TEAM HAS BECOME VERY FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE ODP AND SALES FAX FORMS AND PROCESSES THE COUNTY REQUIRE. WE'VE SAVED OVER $346,000 IN SALES FAX SAVINGS. ALL IN ALL A TOTAL SAVINGS OF OVER A MILLION DOLLARS AND COUNTING.

AND JUST SUBMITTED A FEW WEEKS AGO ANOTHER VALUE VOOERG PROPOSAL TO SAVE A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE SHELTER AS WELL. WE DIDN'T JUST SAY THAT AT THE BEGINNING. WE CONTINUE DOING IT THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS UNTIL THE JOB IS COMPLETED.

THIS IS THE VALUE WE PROVIDE TO THE COUNTY.

WE PROVIDE COST EFFICIENCY. WE'RE EFFECTIVE, WE'RE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER JOB, AND WE HAVE THE EXPERTISE IN RENOVATIONS AND MEDICAL WORK. AND GINGER'S, GOING TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL ON ON FOR YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. WE HAVE MULTIPLE CMAR CONTRACTS WITH OTHER AGENCIES, AND WE ARE -- THIS IS OUR WHEEL HOUSE.

THIS IS WHERE WE ARE MOST EFFECTIVE.

70% OF OUR INCOME AND WORK COMES FROM RENOVATIONS OF THIS SIZE AND SCOPE.

THE MEANS AND METHODS TO DO A RENOVATION PROJECT IS THE SAME. THE PROCESSES ARE THE SAME.

WE GO IN, WE DEMO ON AREA. WE RECONFIGURE THE PLUMBING, MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL.

WE PUT IN THE NEW WALLS, FINISHES, IT, SAFETY AND SECURITY, AND LIFE SAFETY FOR THE FINISHED PROJECT.

ON THE BOTTOM LEFT THERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE THAT WE ARE IN CONSTRUCTION. THIS IS AN INTERNAL RENOVATION. IT HAS SAFETY AND SECURITY, WHICH WE THINK IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT IN YOUR NEW FACILITY. THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS A VETERANS CENTER WE JUST COMPLETED. IT HAS MULTIPLE COMMON AREAS AND OFFICES AS WELL. YOU HAVE A TYPE OF HYBRID SITUATION WITH THIS. THIS IS NOT A NORMAL INTERIOR OFFICE RENOVATION. IT HAS ASPECTS OF TREATMENT, MEDICAL, AS WELL AS RESIDENTIAL STAYS. THAT BEING SAID THIS IS A MEDICAL FACILITY THAT WE HAVE BUILT IN THE PAST, AND IT'S OVERKILL FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO SHOW IN IT IS ONCE WE BUILD A SHELL FOR A MEDICAL FACILITY, WE GO IN AND WE BUILD OUT, YOU KNOW, EACH SPECIFIC USE FOR THE PHYSICIANS.

SOME OF IT'S ORTHOPEDICS, SOME OF IT'S LIKE NEURO SURGERY. WE HAVE BUILT 43 MEDICAL FACILITIES AND ALL THE BUILD OUTS AS WELL AS 19 INDIVIDUAL INTERIOR BUILD OUTS JUST LIKE THE ONE THAT YOU HAVE. IN CLAY COUNTY THE ONES THAT YOU MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH IS THE FLEMMING NONSURGERY CENTER

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WE HAVE BUILT THE CLAY SURGERY CENTER AS WELL AS THE MEDICAL FACILITY BEHIND IT AS WELL AS THE ORANGE PARK MEDICAL CENTER, WHICH IS JUST LIKE THIS AS WELL AS ANOTHER BUILDING LIKE THIS WHICH HAS A REHAB FACILITY AND MULTIPLE SLEEP CENTERS. SO IT HAS ALL THE COMPONENTS THAT YOU NEED. IN ADDITION, WE HAVE BUILT SOMETHING THAT'S VERY, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE, WHICH IS WE'VE RENOVATED THE CITY RESCUE MISSION IN JACKSONVILLE. THEY HAVE TWO FACILITIES.

ONE IS SHORT- TERM STAY, AND ONE IS RECOVERY FOR LONG-TERM.

AND I DO WANT TO GO BACK AND REVISIT YOUR HYBRID SITUATION. PART OF WHAT YOU DO FOR THIS FACILITY IS GOING TO HAVE LONG-TERM CARE, WHICH MEANS PEOPLE ARE HOUSED. YOU HAVE SPECIAL CONDITIONS. BASICALLY WHAT THIS IS THAT IS SIMILAR, SO SIMILAR TO THIS IS ASSISTED LIVING ACILITIES BECAUSE IT HAS 24-HOUR CARE, TREATMENT CENTERS WRASH JANITORIAL, WITH ALL THE LIVING SPACES THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE. THIS IS MOOSE HAVEN WE'RE IN ORANGE PARK. IT'S A 60- ACRE COMPLEX.

WE WERE ON SITE FOR 12 YEARS RENOVATING AND BUILDING THAT FACILITY. THE CONSTRUCTION AT THE BOTTOM WE WERE DOING. BUT IT'S NOT RELEVANT TO THIS PROJECT. WHAT IS RELEVANT, IT'S A MEDICAL FACILITY THEY HAVE ON STAFF -- OR ON THE PROJECT. HALF OF THE BUILDING IS SHORT- TERM USE. THE OTHER HALF IS LONG-TERM. WE RENOVATED THAT.

ALSO WE RENOVATED ANOTHER BUILDING. SAME TYPE OF USE THAT YOU HAVE HERE. THE NEXT ONE WE DID WAS PEELER HALL.

THE ONE ONE WE DID WAS A MEMORY CARE FACILITY, WHICH HAS A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE, A LOT OF HIGH SECURITY LOCK DOWN AREAS AS WELL AS THE DAY CARE CENTER AND ANOTHER RENOVATION SAME SIZE, SAME SCOPE WHICH IS THE BUCKEYE BUILDING.

WE WERE HERE FOR 12 YEARS RENOVATING THE SAME TYPE OF PROJECT YOU HAVE.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE US THERE FOR 12 YEARS BECAUSE WE'RE CHARMING.

THEY DID IT BECAUSE WE'RE COST-EFFECTIVE. AND THEIR PRIMARY JOB WAS GETTING THE JOB DONE IN THE BUDGET ALLOCATED.

THAT WAS THEIR FOCUS AND I BELIEVE THAT'S YOUR FOCUS.

WE DO HAVE A LOT OF CLAY COUNTY EXPERIENCE. THROUGHOUT THE YEARS WE HAVE REPIVATED TWO HEALTH CLINICS. ONE IN BAYRON, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON A CLAY COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER. WE HAVE ENJOYED WORKING FOR CLAY COUNTY THROUGH THE YEARS.

WE'RE EFFECTIVE. WE'RE ESSENTIAL -- WE DO ESSENTIAL WORK FOR THE COUNTY, AND WE ALSO ARE VERY EXPERIENCED IN THIS TYPE OF WORK.

THE SIZE, THE SCOPE IS OUR WHEEL HOUSE, AND THIS TYPE OF FACILITY IS NOT NEW TO US. THIS IS WHAT WE DO EVERY DAY, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE WORKING FOR THE COUNTY TO SERVE OUR COUNTY.

>> THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR RIVERS? OKAY, THANK YOU.

BEFORE WE DO THE SCORING VOTE, IS THERE

DISCUSSION? >> A COMMENT I GUESS.

SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE TABULATION RIVERS SCORED VERY LOW AS FAR AS SIMILAR PROJECTS, BUT SHE JUST NOTED TONS OF PROJECTS SHE'S DONE SIMILARLY, SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> SO I'M LOOKING BACK OVER THAT REAL QUICK.

JUST A MOMENT. THAT'S THE AVERAGE OF OUR THREE RATER SCORES. WE DID ASK THAT THEY INCLUDE EVERYTHING TODAY AND WHAT THEY HAD IN THEIR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL, BUT THEY MAY NOT HAVE JUST SPELLED IT OUT AS CLEARLY AS THEY DID DURING THE

PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. ANY OTHER

DISCUSSION? >> I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.

I WANT TO THANK ALL THREE FIRMS FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.

VERY CAPABLE, VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE, AND MAKES OUR JOB REALLY HARD.

>> AGREE. ALL THREE ARE GREAT PARTNERS FOR CLAY COUNTY. SO NO MATTER WHAT WE DECIDE, PLEASE DON'T STOP BIDDING ON COUNTY PROJECTS. BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT IT'S ABOUT, SO RECENTLY, AND I WILL SAY THAT WE SAT TOGETHER AT THE CLAY COUNTY PROCUREMENT. SHE DID NOT BREAK THE QUIET PERIOD. SO IF YOU SAW ME SITTING WITH HER -- BUT DOING BUSINESS IN CLAY COUNTY, I KNOW YOU WERE ALL THERE.

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COMMISSIONER RENNINGER WILL TALK ABOUT SOMETIMES WE ONLY GET ONE BIDDER, AND WE NEED TO HAVE COMPETITIVE BIDS AND CONVERSATIONS, WITH THE PUBLIC, AND ALL THREE OF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THINGS YOU DID ABOUT MAXIMIZING TAXPAYER DOLLARS. I APPRECIATE THAT SO MUCH.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IT'S WEIRD BECAUSE NORMALLY WE WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND THEN HAVE A DISCUSSION. SO I WANTED TO OPEN IT UP SINCE WE DON'T HAVE TYPICALLY ON THESE. NO OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.

>> READY? >>

READY. >> COMMISSIONER SGROMOLO, YOUR

SCORES. >> ONE SCORPIO, TWO, Y VONN

RIVERS. >> COMMISSIONER

CONDON. >> ONE, RIVERS, TWO AULD AND WHITE, THREE SCORPIO.

>> COMMISSIONER COMPERE.

>> COMMISSIONER RENNINGER.

>> I HAVE ONE AULD AND WHITE, TWO, RIVERS, THREE

SCORPIO. >> MIGHT HAVE TO DO SOME

MATH. >> NOT

ME. >> KAREN'S

CHECKING. >> YOU HAVE YVONN

RIVERS. >> YES.

YVONN, RIVER AT 8, SCORPIO AT 10, AULD AND WHITE AT 12.

SO FROM HERE STAFF WILL MEET WITH YVONN RIVERS, NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT AND BRING THAT BACK FOR BOARD APPROVAL.

[14.  Public Hearing on Ordinance and Resolution to Amend the Capital Improvement Plan and Other Budget Adjustments (R. Kantor)]

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

OKAY, ITEM NUMBER 14, PUBLIC HEARING -- PUBLIC HEARING ON ORDINANCE AND RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND OTHER BUDGET. MULTIPLE PENCILS HAD TO BE SHARPENED ON THIS, BUT THANKS FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.

>> GREEN AND RED PENCILS.

>> YEAH.

>> SO THIS ITEM IS ANNUAL EXERCISE, WHICH ESSENTIALLY BRIDGES LAST FISCAL YEAR TO THIS FISCAL YEAR, WORKING WITH THE STAFFS OF THE CLERK OF FINANCE, PURCHASING, GRANTS, AND THE CAPITAL PROJECTS TEAM.

WE'VE DETERMINED FINAL REVENUES RECEIVED, FINAL SPENDS ON PROJECTS. THOSE PROJECTS ARE IN CAPITAL, OPERATIONAL, AND GRANT PROJECTS AND TRANSFER ADJUSTMENTS TO CONTINUE SERVICES AND PROJECTS THROUGH THIS FISCAL YEAR. PUBLIC HEARING IS NECESSARY FOR THEIR ADJUSTMENTS TO THE COUNTY ROAD 220 PROJECTS AND THE BONDED ROAD TRANSPORTATION

PROJECTS. >>

OKAY. >> THAT'S PRETTY MUCH A QUICK

SUMMARY. >> ALL RIGHT.

QUESTIONS FOR REG? OKAY, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PORTION OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION. SO YOU WANT TO COACH US ON VOTING? CAN WE VOTE ON ALL FOUR AT ONE TIME OR

SEPARATE? >> YOU DEFINITELY NEED TO VOTE ON THE ORDINANCE SEPARATELY.

>> OKAY. SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER 1, THE ORDINANCE.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> SECOND.

>> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. NOW I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEMS 2, 3, AND 4.

>> LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTIONS 2, 3 AND 4 AMENDING THE FY 24, 25 BUDGET.

>> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING

AYE. >>

AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. THANK YOU,

[15.  Public Hearing on Liberty Ambulance Service, Inc.'s Application for Renewal of a Certificate of Public Convenience and Necessity for Ambulance Service (J. Boree)]

REG. >> GOT MY BLUE PEN,PEN, IT.

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CHIEF. >> GOOD EVENING.

HOPEFULLY I HAVE A QUICK AND EASY ONE FOR YOU TONIGHT.

WE'RE HEAR FOR A PUBLIC HEARING FOR LIBERTY AMBULANCEAMBULANCE SERVICES INCORPORATED TO APPROVEAPPROVE RENEWAL. THEIR APPLICATION WAS COMPLETE AND WELL IN ORDER.

THERE IS A REPRESENTATIVE HERE TONIGHT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM. THROUGH THE FIRE CHIEF'S REVIEW, IT IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.

>> OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF OR FOR THE APPLICANT? LIBERTY AMBULANCE SERVICES.

ALL RIGHT. IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING -- IS THERE A PUBLIC HEARING? ALL RIGT, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ACTION.

>> I'LL MOVE APPROVAL.

>> SECOND A MOTION.

>> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR SITTING THROUGH OUR MEETING, LIBERTY AMBULANCE

[12.  FY25 Consolidated Annual Performance and Evaluation Report (CAPER) for the Community Development Block Grant Program (M. Covey)]

ALL RIGHT, WE ARE BACK TO NEW BUSINESS. ITEM NUMBER 12 IS THE CAPER.

MEGAN HAD TO TAKE A LITTLE NAP,

BUT SHE'S BACK. >> YES, GOOD EVENING.

PER OUR CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN AND HUD REQUIREMENTS, WE'RE REQUIRED TO BRIEF THE BOARD EACH YEAR ON OUR CDBG GRANTS ACTIVITIES. THAT INCLUDED EIGHT NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUPS INCLUDING FOUR IN HIGH RIDGE, TWO IN TENGAL WOOD, AND TWO IN MEADOW BROOK. IT INCLUDED TEN PROJECTS AND THREE SIDEWALK PROJECTS IN ORANGE PARK INCLUDING SIDEWALK REPLACEMENTS ON PORTIONS OF OF HARRISON, JEFFERSON, AND WASHINGTON. IN FY 26 WE WILL UTILIZE THE REMAINDER OF THOSE FUNDS TOWARDS ADDITIONAL SIDEWALK PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN PRIORITIZED.

PER OUR CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN, WE DID OPEN A PUBLIC PERIOD FOR THE CAPER TO BE REVIEWED BY THE PUBLIC.

THAT PERIOD RAN FROM FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 7TH THROUGH FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 21ST.

AND WE DID ALSO HOST AN IN- PERSON PUBLIC MEETING ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 18TH AT THE MIDDLE CLAY HILL PUBLIC LIBRARY. WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS, WHICH FOR THE CAPER WE GENERALLY RECEIVE AS GOOD NEWS BECAUSE THIS IS THE END OF YEAR REPORT. THAT MEANS COMMUNICATION IS FLOWING WELL BETWEEN US AND STAKEHOLDERS ON THESE PROJECTS. SO TONIGHT WE'RE ASKING FOR BOARD APPROVAL TO SUBMIT THE END OF YEAR REPORT TO HUD BY THE DECEMBER DEADLINE.

>> OKAY, QUESTIONS FOR MEGAN? ALL RIGHT.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF CAPER

REPORT. >> I'LL

SECOND. >> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER

DISCUSSION? >> ONE THING -- SORRY, CHAIR. ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED WAS COMMUNITY CLEANUPS. WE TAKE THE MAN POWER THAT WE USE FOR COMMUNITY OUT OF HIDE, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THE GRANT COULD FUND.

WE GET MORE BANG FOR THE BUCK IN THE GRANT.

WE'RE MOVING TO TIMES OF POSTERITY AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MAN POWER TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO, SO I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST TO LOOK AT PAYMENT OF THAT WORKFORCE USUALLY ON A SATURDAY, WHICH WE'RE ASKING OUR FORCES TO GET OUT THERE ON A NONWORKING DAY, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE WILL LOOK AT.

>> YEAH, I WOULD -- I WOULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT IT WITH YOU. I WILL SAY THAT I'VE PARTICIPATED IN HIGH RIDGE CLEANUPS.

I HAVEN'T DONE THE BELLAIRE OR TANGLE WOOD, BUT WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE THOSE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS AND EXPAND IT -- I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO SEE IT EXPANDED INTO OTHER LOW INCOME PLACES IN OUR AREA. I THINK THERE WERE A NUMBER OF COUNTY EMPLOYEES OUT THERE AND CERTAINLY PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS LAST WEEKEND -- TWO WEEKS AGO? ANYWAY, THEIR MOST RECENT CLEANUP, THEY HAD MORE TRASH PICKED UP THAN THEY EVER -- IT WAS ALMOST 7,000 POUNDS OF TRASH, I THINK.

AND I THINK MAYBE JASON WENT. OUTSIDE OF THAT, NO COUNTY

[02:15:04]

>> WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EXEMPT EMPLOYEES AND NONEXEMPT EMPLOYEES AND ALL THAT. I'M SURE WE CAN WORK THROUGH THAT. BUT IT IS ONE OF THOSE HIGH- NEED EVOLUTIONS. I MEAN I WAS ON THE BELLAIRE, AND WE COULD HAVE STAYED THERE FOR A WEEK, KELLY.

AND TRASH BEGETS TRASH. WE HAD -- JUST AS AN EXAMPLE WE HAD A LOCATION THAT ACCUMULATED TWO MATTRESSES, NO, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE. IT ENDED UP BEING NINE MATTRESSES.

IF WE DON'T CLEAN IT UP, IT WILL GET WORSE.

AND IF WE DO CLEAN IT UP, PEOPLE WILL GET WORD THIS ISN'T THE RIGHT PLACE TO PUT YOUR MATTRESS.

I THINK IT'S AN EFFORT WELL WORTH -- IT'S AN EVOLUTION WELL WORTH THE EFFORT.

>> I AGREE. I WOULD ALSO JUST ADD BECAUSE WE CAN'T TAKE ENOUGH PUBLIC OPPORTUNITY THAT SHARICE WOULD LIKE TO SAY CALL FOR YOUR PUBLIC PICKUPS BECAUSE COUNTY SPENDS A LOT OF WORK AND TIME TO PICK UPUP STUFF THAT'S DUMPED.

>> ALL RIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, WE HAD A MOTION -- DID WE APPROVE IT?

[16.  Acceptance of Resignation from the Charter Review Commission]

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING

AYE. >>

AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 6-0. ITEM NUMBER 16 ACCEPTANCE OF RESIGNATION FROM CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION. RANDY BOWMAN WAS FROM DISTRICT 3 SUBMITTED HIS RESIGNATION. HE SAID THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH GOING ON MY UNDERSTANDING WITH THE ORANGE PARK MALL NEW

OWNERS. >> YEAH, SECOND HORIZON JUST PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, AND I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING THROUGH A TRANSITION. THEIR GOAL IS TO MAKE THE MALL MORE VIABLE AND MORE HOSPITABLE TO THE RESIDENTS, SO I IMAGINE RANDY HAS A TO-DO LIST A MILE LONG, SO, YEAH, HE'S RESIGNED. BUT ENGELBRECHT WAS FROM DISTRICT

3. >> SO WE NEED TO ACTUALLY ACCEPT THE RESIGNATION BUT WE DON'T NEED TO APPROVE THE BILL BECAUSE WE HAD ALREADY APPROVE ON THE ORIGINAL

LIST. >> AND THE CHARTER AUTOMATICALLY SENDS HIM UP.

>> IS THAT A MOTION TO ACCEPT IN.

>> I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE RESIGNATION OF RANDY BOWMAN.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SASECOND.

[17.  Acceptance of Resignation from the Clay County Board of Adjustment]

RESIGNATION. >> I WISH THE COUNCILMAN BEST OF LUCK. AND MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> OKAY, DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> THIS IS A BOARD WE REALLY USED YOUR HELP LAST TIME TO FIND US MEMBERS WHO ARE ABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETING, SO WE JUST, AGAIN, ASK YOU TO PLEASE HELP US FILL

IT. >> IT'S NOT LIMITED.

>> IT'S ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY, OKAY?

>> IT'S A THURSDAY NIGHT AND USUALLY A THIRD OR FOURTH

THURSDAY. >> JLD I WOULD JUST SAY FOR NEW MEMBERS BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER TIMING, BUT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IS IMPORTANT FOR US IN THAT WE PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING BECAUSE THE PUBLIC WILL ASK ABOUT IT. WE USED TO HAVE PART OF OUR -- I'M GOING TO MESS IT UP, BETH, BUT YOU CAN GIVE ME HAND SIGNALS OR WHATEVER.

WE HAD A PROJECT THAT COULD BE TWEAKED BY GOING TO THE BOARD

[02:20:01]

SO WE ENDED UP BEING ABLE TO CLOSE THAT LOOPHOLE, BUT OUR BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT WAS WORKING WITHIN THEIR PURVIEW, SO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THESE BOARDS AND READING THEIR MINUTES. NOT TO CRITICIZE.

WE APPRECIATE THE ONES THAT SERVE, HOWEVER THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE BETTER THAN OTHERS.

COMMISSIONER RENNINGER.

>> I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO BRANDON.

HE IS A GUY WHO DID HIS HOMEWORK, AND HE DID A LOT OF GOOD THINGS FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. I'M SORRY HE'S LIVING, BUT I'M HAPPY HE'S STILL HERE IN THE COUNTY.

>> HE WORKS -- GOOD EXAMPLE FOR THOSE WHO SAY THEY DON'T HAVE TIME, BRANDON WORKS A FULL TIME JOB AND HE'S ALSO CHAIRMAN FOR YOUNG REPUBLICANS FOR THE WHOLE STATE OF FLORIDA. SO HE WORKS A LOT.

ANYWAY, MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY

[18.  Bid Opening Tabulations (K Smith)]

>> AYE.

>> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. WE HAVE A FEW BID -- ONE BID OPENING TABULATIONS FOR THE OLD JENNINGS AND LONG BAY TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS. SO FOR THOSE WHO LIVE IN THAT

[Selection of Chair and Vice Chair]

ALL RIGHT, WE ARE TO THE REORGANIZATION OF THE BCC.

MR. COUNTY MANAGER, DO YOU WANT

TO -- >> MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS THE TIME WHERE ONE OF YOU WOULD NOMINATE SOMEBODY WHO WOULD TAKE OVER YOUR POSITION AS CHAIRMAN, AND THEN FROM THERE WE'LL TAKE A PAUSE AND THEN TALK ABOUT VICE CHAIR.

>> OKAY. I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER VICE CHAIR BURKE.

>> I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

>> THANK Y'ALL.

>> ANY DISCUSSION, ANY OTHER

COMMENTS? >> OR ANY OTHER MOTIONS?

>> OR ANY OTHER MOTIONS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AND OPPOSED, ANYWAY? UNANIMOUSLY, FIVE VOTES.

CONGRATULATIONS, COMMISSIONER BURKE, NOW CHAIRMAN

BURKE. >> IT'S AN

HONOR. >> AND THEN JUST LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR VICE CHAIR.

>> I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER SGROMOLO FOR VICE CHAIR.

>> OKAY. ARE THERE ANY SECONDS?

>> I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

>> OKAY. ANY OTHER MOTIONS? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE.

>> OKAY, ANY NAYS? UNANIMOUS, CONGRATULATIONS VICE CHAIR SGROMOLO.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY EASY PEASY. ST. JOHN'S COUNTY CAN LEARN FROM US. I KNOW I'M GOING TO GET TEXTS FROM SOME OF OF MY FRIENDS OVER THERE. WE ARE TO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. IT IS 6:25 P.M. , BUT I DO NOT HAVE ANY CARDS THAT INDICATE YOU WOULD WANT TO SPEAK IN OUR SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY, SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE SECOND PUBLIC

[COUNTY ATTORNEY]

ATTORNEY? >> JUST A COUPLE ITEMS. FIRST OF ALL, THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, THE NEXT MEETING IS DECEMBER 15TH, WHICH AGAIN IS A MONDAY. THE E- BIKE THAT YOU ASKED ME TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT INTO, WE'RE STILL GATHERING OTHER COUNTIES, BUT JUST TO LAY THE FRAMEWORK FROM WHAT WE'VE GATHERED SO FAR, SO CURRENTLY UNDER FLORIDA STATUTE, IT DOES HAVE PROVISIONS FOR E- BIKES, AND IT ALLOWS THEIR USE WHEREVER BICYCLES ARE ALLOWED. BUT IT DOES AUTHORIZE THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND PROVIDE RESTRICTIONS. SUCH RESTRICTIONS CAN INCLUDE RESTRICTIONS ON SIDEWALKS. AND AS TO THE SPEED ON SIDEWALKS, SO THE ONES THAT WE HAVE COMPILED SO FAR WHAT THEY USUALLY DO IS THEY PROVIDE A MAXIMUM OF SPEED OF 10 OR 15 MILES PER HOUR ON THE SIDEWALK.

THEY ALSO PROVIDE A MINIMUM AGE. SO THE MINIMUM AGE IS 16, AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THE LEGISLATURE, THERE CURRENTLY IS A PROPOSED BILL. SO BECAUSE AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT E-BIKES SOME OF THEM ARE MAKING THEM GO FASTER. SO THE NEW PROPOSED BILL ACTUALLY HAS A NEW CATEGORY FOR THOSE TYPES OF BIKES THAT EXCEED A CERTAIN POWER THAT WILL BE CALLED ELECTRIC MOTORCYCLES, AND SO THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS ON THOSE AS WELL. SO WE'LL JUST SORT OF MONITOR THAT BILL AND SEE HOW THEY PROGRESS.

PART OF THAT BILL ALSO REQUIRES CERTAIN E- BIKE DRIVERS HAVE DRIVER'S LICENSES. SO THERE ARE SOME COUNTIES THAT

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ST. JOHNS, WE DID LOOK AT ATST.

JOHNS. THEY DID EARLY ON HAD A ON ORDINANCE BUT RECENTLY DID A RESOLUTION.

AND THE RESOLUTION WAS DRIVEN MORE TOWARDS EDUCATION AND GET WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND MAKING SURE THE KIDS THAT USE E-BIKES TO GET TO SCHOOL ARE MORE EDUCATED ON THEIR USE. A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH IF YOU'RE ON AN E- BIKE WHEN YOU COME TO, LIKE, AN INTERSECTION, WHAT YOU HAVE TO ABIDE BY.

YOU CAN'T JUST KEEP GOING. YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS AND THOSE TYPE OF ITEMS.

>> COMMISSIONER RENNINGER.

>> YEAH, THE PROPOSED STATUTE EXPANDS THE USE -- OR THE CATEGORY OF E- BIKE, THINGS BEYOND SERIES 3 AND IT'S EXCESS OF 750 KILOWATTS AN HOUR. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT A BIKE ON A SIDEWALK AND WITH A STROLLER YOUR GRAND KID OR CHILD WHAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ALLUDED TO TALKING ABOUT LICENSING AND HELMETS AND IT'S EXPANNED USE OF TRANSPORTATION. IT'S GOING TO GET MORE PROLIFIC AND PRONOUNCED IN THE COUNTY, AND WE NEED TO BE READY FOR IT AS SO MANY OTHER COUNTIES ARE.

AND ALSO MAY ALLUDED TO THERE MAY BE OTHERIC MECHANICS OUT THERE THAT AUGMENT THE 750 KILOWATT TO A LARGER ELECTRIC MOTOR, WHICH WILL MAKE IT GO

FASTER. >> LIKE THEY DO TO GOLF CARTS.

>> THE PROPOSED STATUTE HAS FINES IF YOU'RE CAUGHT AUGMENTING THE POWER SUPPLY OF THE E-BIKE.

ANYWAY, IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT.

THANK YOU. >> I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK, AND I ALSO JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT. OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR, HEATHER HEFMAN, IS ALWAYS A GREAT PARTNER TO US AND SHE SENT SOME INFORMATION OVER TO US AS WELL. SO WE APPRECIADIRECTOR.

>> AND LASTLY, JUST HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL OF

[COUNTY MANAGER]

YOU. >> COUNTY MANAGER. JUST AN UPDATE JUST K YOU. - FINALIZING THE SCHEDULE FOR OUR DELEGATION MEETING ON THE 2 ND AND 3 OF DECEMBER. Y'ALL SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A DRAFT OF THAT SCHEDULE, AND WE'LL FINALIZE THAT MOST LIKELY ON MONDAY, AND WE'RE CLOSER SCHEDULING SPEAKERS IN THAT, BUT WE HAVE A VERY GOOD DRAFT FOR YOU ALL.

DECEMBER 9TH WE HAVE A WORKSHOP BEFORE OUR BCC MEETING ON THE 9TH. THIS WORKSHOP STARTS AT 10:00 HERE AT THE BOARDROOM, AND WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS OUR STRATEGIC PLAN CHANGES, KPIS, HOW WE WOULD UPDATE AND PUBLISH THOSE CHANGES TO THE BOOKLET.

AND THEN MOST IMPORTANTLY WE'VE ADDED ONE OTHER THING TO IT. THE PROPOSED TAX PROPERTY BILL IMPACTS THAT ARE OUT THERE, THERE ARE MANY OUT THERE THEY EVEN DISCUSSED AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT IMPACT WOULD BE TO OUR BUDGET.

SO WE'LL GIVE SOME EXAMPLES. WE'LL USE DATA THAT FAC HAS REQUESTED FROM US AND BUILD THAT AND KIND OF REALLY KICK OFF THE BUDGET PREP EARLY IN THIS YEAR IN DECEMBER. I THINK THIS WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR US ALL AND THE COMMUNITY TO SEE WHAT THOSE IMPACTS WOULD BE TO OUR BUDGET MOVING FORWARD. PENDING THAT, BY THE WAY, I JUST WANT TO ADD WE HAVE MUCH TO BE THANKFUL FOR HERE IN CLAY COUNTY AND ACROSS THE BOARD.

I CAN'T THANK THE STAFF ENOUGH, CAN'T THANK YOU ALL ENOUGH AS A BOARD. HAVE A HAPPY AND SAFE THANKSGIVING.

[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]

HAVE. >> ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER COMMENTS.

WHO WANTS TO START? COMMISSIONER SGROMOLO, DO YOU WANT TO START?

>> SURE. I DON'T HAVE MANY TONIGHT.

FIRST, I GOT TO ATTEND THE PROCUREMENT CONFERENCE, WHICH WAS A REALLY, REALLY GOOD EVENT FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES TO SEE HOW CLAY COUNTY OPERATES. THE COUNTY MANAGER AT THE VERY END GOT UP AND SHOWED THE WEBSITE. I THINK PEOPLE WERE LIKE, THEIR REACTION WAS, OH, MY GOSH, IT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE WEBSITE, WHICH IS REALLY COOL.

HUGE TURNOUT FROM THAT. THAT'S REALLY ABOUT IT.

LAST THING, THE BIKE THING, TOO. JUST A REMINDER, PARENTS, MAKE SURE YOUR CHILDREN ARE WEARING HELMETS AND YOU. I HAVE TWO SMALL CHILDREN, AND MY WIFE WHO WORKS IN HEALTH CARE HAS SEEN A LOT OF BAD

[02:30:02]

I DON'T LIKE WEARING A HELMET, BUT IN FRONT OF MY CHILDREN I 100% WEAR A HELMET BECAUSE IT'S THE BEST PRACTICE THERE. MOST OF ALL, HAPPY THANKSGIVING. WE HAVE A TON TO BE GRATEFUL FOR AND THANKFUL FOR, AND I HOPE EVERYONE HAS A BLESSED ONE.

>> COMMISSIONER BURKE?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF Y'ALL, OF COURSE, FOR CHOOSING ME. I PROMISE TO DO THE BEST JOB I COULD POSSIBLY CAN DO. I BASICALLY HAVE SAID I'VE NOT FELT PREPARED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ALL THESE YEARS. BUT HOPEFULLY WITH YOUR HELP I CAN DO ALL OF YOU PROUD. SOMETHING YOU SAID ABOUT THE RESOLUTION TO EDUCATE FORFOR THAT, WHAT ABOUT THAT WITH THE A.I.? COULD WE LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR THAT TO AS A RESOLUTION I THINK MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO GET AHEAD OF THE GAME ON THAT. I DON'T KNOW.

AND THEN I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER BUILDING, SEEING THAT TO COME.

I'M DEFINITELY ONE TO PUSH FOR THAT AND DEFINITELY TOUCHES ME, AND SO EXCITED TO SEE THAT COME ALONG. I THINK THAT WAS ALL I HAD.

I THINK DEFINITELY BEING THANKFUL BUT ALSO THINKING ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LOST THEIR FAMILY MEMBER OR LOVED ONES AND ANY OF THOSE ON THEIR OWN, JUST PRAY FOR THOSE PEOPLE. AND EVERYONE HAVE A GREAT TIME WITH THEIR

FAMILIES. >> THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER COMPERE.

>> YES, JUST THREE THINGS. LAST WEEK WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN CENTRAL FLORIDA FOR THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES CONFERENCE, AND IT NEVER DISAPPOINTMENTS. I LEARNED SO MUCH. ONE OF THE THINGS INTERESTING TO ME IS THAT THERE ARE PRESSURE POINTS ALL OVER THE STATE CONCERNING THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, SO WE ARE NOT IN A BUBBLE HERE IN CLAY COUNTY. SO I JUST -- I WAS ESPECIALLY APPRECIATIVE OF OUR COUNTER PARTS ACROSS THE STATE WHO WERE GIVING -- GIVING US INSIGHT AS TO HOW THEY ARE NAVIGATING SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS. AND SO I HIGHLIGHT THAT.

I TOO WANT TO JUST REITERATE A HAT TIP THANK YOU TO BRANDON LUDWIG. ONE THING ABOUT HIM HAVING BEEN ON THE VALUE VALUE ADJUSTMENT BOARD IS EVERYONE HAD THE SAME TAKE AWAY, THAT HE IS A CLASS ACT, ALWAYS PREPARED, ALWAYS WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE. AND I HIGHLIGHT THAT BECAUSE BRANDON IS IN HIS MID TO LATE 20S, AND HE IS SHOULDERING A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY. IT'S ONE THING TO BE INVOLVED IN YOUR COMMUNITY, IT'S SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TO BE SERVING AT THE STATE LEVEL FOR THE YOUNG REPUBLICANS. AND SO I COMMEND YOU, BRANDON, FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK.

YOU'RE VERY IVE, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT HERE IN CLAY.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO OUR TEAM HERE IN CLAY COUNTY.

YEAR OVER YEAR IT IS A BLESSING TO LIVE AND SERVE HERE BECAUSE SO MANY OF YOU IF NOT MANY OF YOU ARE WORKING TOWARDS MAKING THIS A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY TO LIVE IN.

I AM BLESSED EVERY DAY TO BE A PART OF IT, BLESSED EVERY DAY TO LIVE HERE. SO HATS OFF TO THE COUNTY MANAGER, HATS OFF TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

HATS OFF TO THE COUNTY -- AND ALL OF OUR COUNTY STAFF STILL ON THANKSGIVING WEEK, HERE WE ARE 25 MINUTES TO 7:00, THANK YOU.

AND FOR ALL THOSE AT HOME, THANK YOU.

I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE WORK THAT IT TAKES TO GET THINGS DONE HERE. AND WITH THAT, HAVE A GOOD WEEK.

>> THANKS. COMMISSIONER RENNINGER?

>> I JUST HAVE A FEW THINGS. ONE, THE REGIONAL COUNCIL CAME OUT WITH THEIR LIST OF NOMINEES FOR EXCELLENCE AWARDS, AND WE HAVE TWO OR THREE BEING CONSIDERED. I WANT TO POINT OUT LEANNE IS OUT THERE.

WAVE YOUR HAND TO US. REGIONAL COUNCIL SUPPORTS OUR BACK A LOT OF TIMES AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PERSISTENCE AND ENDURING TO THE BITTER END HERE.

OAK LEAF I WANT TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS. VERY PLEASED WITH THAT. YOU SAW FROM SAM THE NUMBER OF OLDER RESIDENTS WE HAVE. AND EVEN THOUGH TODAY SOMEONE COULD BE AMBULATORY AND SELF-SUFFICIENT, I JUST HAD A CLOSE FRIEND THAT HAD A MEDICAL INCIDENT ON SATURDAY I THINK IT WAS, AND HE LOST HIS LIFE SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND HE'S

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SO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE FOUR SENIOR CENTERS, YOU KNOW, KEYSTONE, ORANGE PARK, GREEN COVE, AND MIDDLEBURG, WE HAVE A BIG VOID UP THERE, AND SO THE LIBRARY IS GOING TO BE A MULTIUSE FACILITY. I DID NOTICE THAT THE CHILDREN'S AREA IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST AREA.

AND WE NEED TO KIND OF -- YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT DEMOGRAPHICS FOR THE NATION, THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES.

THERE AREN'T A LOT OF LITTLE CHILDREN GOING TO BE RUNNING AROUND FOR SOME REASON. SO IS IT RIGHT SIZED? WE HAVE A LARGE AREA FOR CHILDREN, FAIRLY LARGE AREA FOR ADULTS, BUT THEN THERE'S A REAL SMALL TEEN AREA. SO MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. THE THIRD THING I NOTICED AND I RECOMMENDED, WE HAVE MANY REASONS TO LIGHT OUR BUILDINGS ON THE OUTSIDE WITH DIFFERENT COLORS OF LIGHT.

I USE THE NOVEMBER AS A VETERAN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, AND GENE, GOES OUT OF HIS WAY TO LIGHTLIGHT BUILDING AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO WIRE FROM THE GET GO.

WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT THE LIGHTS ON, BUT WE CAN WIRE IT FOR LIGHTS AS SUCH, SO I ASKED HIM TO LOOK AT TAT.

HAT. AND THE LAST THING I HAVE IS WE DO HAVE A LOT TO BE THANKFUL FOR.

FAMILY, FRIENDS, AND FELLOWSHIP. IT'S VERY CORDIAL HERE AND FAIRLY CORDIAL IN THE COUNTY. LAST MEETING I HAD AN ENGAGEMENT WITH A FRIEND AND THEY BROUGHT UP THE BCC AND MY HEART STOPPED, BUT IT WAS VERY POSITIVE.

>> I HAVE A FEW THINGS, A FEW MORE THAN YOU ALL BUT I WILL GO QUICKLY. WE HAD AT 2:00 THIS AFTERNOON THE ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING FOR THE VALUE ADJUSTMENT BOARD, WHICH THE CLERK'S OFFICE WILL DO ALL THE MINUTES AND THAT'S REALLY THEIR THING.

BUT THESE ARE INTERESTING NUMBERS.

I THOUGHT YOU ALL WOULD BE INTERESTED IN.

THERE WERE 2,118 APPLICATIONS AND 2,033 OF THOSE HAVE BEEN RESOLVED. THAT'S BETWEEN THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS OFFICE, SO THAT MEANS THEY'RE WORKING WITH CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES, SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE.

AND THEY DO HAVE ABOUT 80 THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON.

AND WE'LL PROBABLY END UP HAVING AT LEAST ONE HEARING, SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS INFORMATION YOU'D WANT TO KNOW. BETH CARSON WHO'S OUR DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND ZONING AND SHARICE PROVIDED ME SOME E- MAILS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TEAM CUSTOMER SUPPORT, AND WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK SHOUTOUT TO THESE PEOPLE. SO THEY GOT AN E- MAIL REGARDING KRISTI JOHNSON. OVER -- I WON'T READ YOU THE WHOLE THING, BUT OVER A NUMBER OF TIMES THE FAMILY -- OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS THE FAMILY HAS BEEN WORKING ON KIND OF A FAMILY COMPOUND OUT ON FAMILY LAND THAT'S 85 ACRES. KRISTI HAS WORKED TIRELESSLY AND BEEN EXTREMELY RESPONSIVE AND KNOWLEDGEABLE TO HELP THEM OVERCOME VARIOUS HURDLES IN A PROFESSIONAL AND EXPEDITIOUS MANNER.

AND THIS GENTLEMAN WHO SENT THE E-MAIL HAS WORKED IN ENGINEERING FOR OVER 40 YEARS WITH A NUMBER OF GOVERNMENT STAFFERS. AND HE SAID WITHOUT HESITATION KRISTI HAS BEEN AMONG THE BEST THAT HE'S WORKED WITH, SO I THOUGHT SHOUTOUT TO HER.

AND THEN SECONDLY, WE GOT A SHOUTOUT FOR JESSICA REAS, AND IT SAYS SHE WAS SO HELPFUL GIVING ME INFORMATION AND FORMS I NEEDED FOR THE SEPTIC INSPECTION AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. NOT ONLY DID SHE DO HERE JOB, HE WENT OUT OF HER WAY TO WRITE DOWN WHAT I NEEDED TO HAVE DONE AND E- MAIL ME NEXT STEPS AND HELP ME AFTER I GOT MY APPROVAL AND MY SEPTIC LETTER.

AND THE PERSON WHO WROTE THE E-MAIL SAID WHO DOES THAT? BUT MOST PEOPLE WOULD ONLY DO THE MINIMUM.

SHE WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND. AND SHE GOES ON, LIKE SHE HAS A WHOLE LIST. SO WE'LL JUST SHOUT THEM OUT.

CRYSTAL JAMES. BLESS HER SWEET SOUL FOR DEALING WITH ME. SO SHE SAID -- ANYWAY, SHE GOES ON AND TALKS ABOUT HER. SHE SHOUTS OUT KRISTI JOHNSON AND MARIA HAYNIE AND THERESA AT THE FRONT DESK AND LAURA HANSEN, WHO WAS HERE EARLIER. SHE CALLS HER MY IMPACT FEE LADY, SO SHE HELPED HER WITH ALL OF THAT.

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ANYWAY, JUST WANTED TO GIVE THOSE EMPLOYEES SHOUTOUTS AND READ YOU THAT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS GREAT.

I WANTED TO ALSO READ YOU QUICKLY, AND I JUST FIND THIS ON TODAY SO THE COUNTY MANAGER CAN DISTRIBUTE IT ALL TO YOU. IT'S VERY BEAUTIFUL AND A UNITED STATES NAVY FOLDER, PORTFOLIO, BUT IT CAME DIRECTED TO ME, AND IT SAYS "I'M WRITING TO EXTEND OUR -- MARK BRUSCO. HE SAID I'M WRITING TO EXTEND THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE JELLY ROLL FLIGHT, AND YOUR INFLUENCE WAS CRUCIAL.

WE DEEPLY APPRECIATE THE DEDICATION THE CHIEF AND HIS TEAM PROVIDED CARE AND TREATMENT FOR 56 PERSONNEL WHO WERE TREATED ON SITE.

IT SOUNDS LIKE IT GOT KIND OF WILD. SO ANYWAY DESPITE THE CHALLENGES WE FACED DURING THE EVENT, YOUR DEPARTMENT'S SWIFT AND EFFECTIVE ACTIONS PLAYED A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN MANAGING THE SITUATION AND ENSURING A SAFETY ENVIRONMENT FOR AUDIENCE AND PERFORMERS. THE SEAMLESS COLLABORATION BETWEEN OUR TEAMS DID NOT GO UNNOTICED, AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO THE SAFETY OF THE 40,000 PERSONNEL THAT ATTENDED THE EVENT. PLEASE CONVEY OUR GRATITUDE TO ALL FIREFIGHTERS AND MEDICAL PERSONNEL WHO ASSISTED.

THEIR EFFORTS WERE VITAL TO THE EVENT'S OVERALL SUCCESS, AND WE COULD NOT HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT THEM.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR INVALUABLE SUPPORT.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING OUR PARTNERSHIP IN THE FUTURE AND WORKING TOGETHER TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF ALL COMMUNITY EVENTS. SINCERELY, FIRE CHIEF MARK.

SO MAYBE IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, ASK THE CHIEF OFF- LINE BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE A PRETTY INTERESTING NIGHT OR DAY OR WHATEVER IT WAS.

ANYWAY, CHIEF, PLEASE EXPRESS OUR THANKS TO YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE STAFF. I KNOW A LOT OF THEM WATCH.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO. I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE QUICK THOUGHT PROCESS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO THINK OVER YOUR HOLIDAY, BUT WHEN YOU GET BACK TO WORK, COMMISSIONER BURKE AND I ATTENDED THE TPO MEETING AS WE NORMALLY DO, AND SO I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT RICHARD WILL BE SOLICITING THROUGH -- I THINK IT'S THROUGH JANUARY WORKING ON TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. SO THEY HAVE A LIST OF PRIORITY THE LOP, WHICH IS FOR BIKE AND PED FUNDING, SO BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN.

THE LOP IDENTIFIES POTENTIAL PROJECTS FOR FDOT'S TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES RAM AND THE SHARED USE NONMOTORIZED TRAILS PROGRAM.

WE GET ONE PRIORITY TO PUT ON THE LIST, AND THEY SAID THAT IT CAN BE -- I CAN'T REALLY READ MY HAND WRITING SOMETHING LIKE -- OH, A BIGGER PROJECT. I WAS ABOUT TO SAY A BURGER PROJECT? THEY'RE LOOKING IN THE $1. 5 MILLION PROJECT BUT THOR ONES CAN BE BROKEN UP.

IF YOU'RE THINKING OF SOMETHING IN THAT RANGE, WE DON'T HAVE A TON OF PEDESTRIANS IN DISTRICT 4, BUT I'LL WORK ON MY IDEAS, AND THEN GET THOSE TO RICHARD. AND THEN PLANNING STUDIES, THE TPO AND FDOT ARE ASKING FOR STUDY REQUESTS TO PERFORM IN THE FY 26, 27 FISCAL YEAR. STUDIES PERFORMED BY THE TPO WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE UNIFIED WORK PROGRAM THAT'S COMING UP. AND SOME EXAMPLES ARE LIKE THEY DID OUR DIRT ROD STUDY. THEY'RE DOING A STREETLIGHT LIGHTING STUDY FOR US RIGHT NOW, SO THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT COME TO THE TOP OF MIND. RICHARD, WERE THERE ANY OTHER PROJECTS WE WERE SUPPOSED TO PULL INFORMATION? I ALSO HAVE CIRCLED THE LIST OF PRIORITY PROJECTS, BUT I DIDN'T WRITE NOTES SO I DON'T KNOW.

>> I THINK MEGAN HAS REQUESTED OUR TOP 25 ROADWAY PROJECTS BE DELIVERED TO YOU ON THE 9TH , THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.

IT'S NOT DUE UNTIL JANUARY 23RD, WHICH FALLS BETWEEN MEETINGS. I'LL TURN IT IN JANUARY 23RD.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ADOPTED UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING ON THE 29TH. YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT,

MEGAN? >> THE REQUEST IS COMING JUST BECAUSE THE GRANT APPLICATIONS ARE DUE JANUARY 2

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>> IS THAT THE SAME WORKING OFF THE LIST WE HAD LAST

YEAR OR -- >> EXACTLY, THE LIST -- BECAUSE I'LL PRESENT TO YOU A -- I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT A STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

IT'LL HAVE THE TOP 25 WITH LAST YEAR'S TOP 25.

REMEMBER LAST YEAR WE DO SOME GYMNASTICS. LAST YEAR WE MOVED THE INTERSECTION SOUTH ON STATE ROAD 21 UP SO THE CITY OF KEYSTONE CAN RECEIVE THAT GRANT. YOU GUYS MAY NOT BE AWARE OF LOOKING AT THE STAFF LEVEL FOR THOSE SPECIFIC BROKES. I'LL GET THOSE TO YOU -- I'LL GIVE THEM TO MEGAN AND SHE'LL DISTRICT THEM BEFORE THE DECEMBER 9TH MEETING. OKAY, SO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER RENNINGER. NO, GO AHEAD.

>> IT'S NOT FOR RICHARD.

>> OKAY. I THINK THAT WAS ALL FROM TPO.

IS THAT ALL? THAT'S ALL I HAD.

AND THEN -- SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I MENTIONED TO THE COUNTY MANAGER, WHICH WE'RE NOT EXACTLY DOING ON THE 9TH OF DECEMBER, BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN WATCH IT AND DO IT. COMMISSIONER COMPERE MENTIONED WE WERE DOWN I GUESS THE THREE OF US AND COUNTY MANAGER AND COUNTY ATTORNEY WERE DOWN AT THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY'S LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES WORKSHOP, AND THE WICOLA COUNTY PRESENTED -- PLEASE KNOW WHEN I SAY THIS I'M NOT POSED TO PROPERTY TAX ELIMINATION.

I PAY THEM MYSELF, AND I WROTE THAT CHECK ALREADY AND IT WAS PAINFUL. ANYWAY, SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE ELIMINATION OF IT, BUT IT DOESN'T COME WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES BECAUSE RIGHT NOW NOTHING HAS BEEN PROPOSED TO REPLACE THAT REVENUE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE STATE GOVERNMENT PROPOSING TO ELIMINATE IT AT THE LOCAL LEVEL BECAUSE THEY DON'T USE PROPERTY TAXES AT THE STATE LEVEL. SO I THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEAR IN THE PUBLIC. AND IN CLAY COUNTY ALLALL OUR TAXES GO TO PUBLIC SAFETY. IT'S A REALLY BIG DEAL.

IT'S 50% OF OUR BUDGET. SO WICOLA COUNTY IS DOING WORKSHOPS. GOING AHEAD AND STARTING THEIR WORKSHOP. THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING ONE AT THE BEGINNING OF DECEMBER. IF PROPERTY TAXES WERE ELIMINATED COMPLETELY, THEIR COMMISSIONERS ARE WORKSHOPING WHAT WOULD THEY PRIORITIZE? BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE A BACK FILL OF REVENUE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE CUTS. AND WHAT WOULD OUR PRIORITIES BE? AND THEY'RE DOING IT IN KIND OF RATHER LARGE BUCKETS. YOU KNOW, WHAT IS OBVIOUSLY PUBLIC SAFETY, SO YOU WOULD HAVE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT AT THE TOP OF YOUR -- AT YOUR LIST. SO THEN WHAT'S NEXT? MAYBE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE FORCED RANKING THEIR DEPARTMENT, SO HOW DO YOU GO THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? THE WICOLA COUNTY COMMISSIONER THAT WAS TALKING WITH ME ABOUT IT HE SAID, LOOK, WE ONLY HAVE ONE LIBRARY IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND WE'RE EXPANDING IT RIGHT NOW, AND HE SAID I'M AFRAID WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND THIS BEAUTIFUL NEW BUILDING AND HAVE TO NEVER OPEN IT BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD TO. SO WICOLA COUNTY IS WORKSHOPING ELIMINATION OF COMPLETE AD VALOREM AND ELIMINATION OF HOMESTEAD AD VALOREM AND WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE FOR THEIR COUNTY? I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A RISK FOR EMPLOYEES, AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CAUSE A PANIC TO ANYBODY, BUT WE HAVE TO DEAL IN REALITIES.

THE GOVERNOR HAS SAID HE WILL ACCEPT NOTHING LESS THAN THIS BEING ON THE BALLOT. IF IT IS IMPORTANT WHAT THOMAS IN WICOLA COUNTY SAID AND I THOUGHT HIS WORDS WERE VERY POIGNANT.

HE SAID WHAT'S IMPORTANT THE VOTERS UNDERSTAND IF I GO AND CHECK THAT YES BOX IN THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER OF 2026, THIS IS WHAT IT WILL MEAN IN MY COUNTY. THIS IS WHAT I'M ACTUALLY VOTING FOR, BECAUSE IT IS.

I'M VOTING TO PAY LESS MONEY. WE ALL PAY A TON OF MONEY.

SO I THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH WILE. I THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH WILE TO BRING IT UP TO YOU.

>> I FEEL LIKE WE'VE ALL -- I'VE BEEN IN DIFFERENT MEETINGS WITH OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES, AND WE'VE ALL ASKED THEM WHAT'S THE PLAN, AND WE AREN'T GETTING ANY FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT. TRUE, ARE WE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THEY TELL US OR ARE WE GOING TO DO SOMETHING? I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY A GOOD WAY TO BE PROACTIVE. IT'S SCARY TO THINK ABOUT AND OF COURSE WE ALL WOULD LOVE TO PAY LESS MONEY, BUT, YEAH, WE HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I REALLY DO. >> AND THEN, LET'S SEE, OH, THE NEXT THING I WANTED TO TELL YOU IS FOR THANKSGIVING, HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL OF

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THERE'LL BE PLENTY TO EAT. IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING TO BRING OR SPEND THANKSGIVING WITH, KEYSTONE HEIGHTS METHODIST CHURCH ON THURSDAY. SOMEONE DONATED A 30- POUND TURKEY AND IN CHURCH WEEKS AGOAGO SAID WE NEED SOMEONE TO FOSTER THE TURKEY AND COOK IT. I SAID WE CAN DO THAT.

WE COOKED IT TODAY. WE COOKED IT IN THE OVEN TODAY AND MY HUSBAND TOOK PICTURES. HEATHER, I'LL SHOW YOU THE PICTURES OF MY TURKEY. WE'RE NOT EATING THE 31- POUND TURKEY BUT WE MADE

IT. >> CROSS POINT CHURCH IS ALSO DOING THAT. I'M SURE THERE'S A WAY TO FIND OUT INFORMATION ABOUT ALL THE CHURCHES THAT ARE DOING

IT. >> BUT NOT A LOT.

AND SOME RESTAURANTS. RICHARD SAID HE'S GOING OUT TO EAT, SO THAT'S GOOD. ANYWAY, HAPPY THANKSGIVING. THEN I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SERVE AS YOUR CHAIRMAN FOR THIS YEAR, AND IT'S A LOT OF EXTRA WORK.

AND THEY DON'T PAY YOU ANYTHING EXTRA. BUT ANYWAY, I -- IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE, AND I'VE ENJOYED IT. I WILL MISS SITTING BESIDE COMMISSIONER COMPERE AND COMMISSIONER BURKE BECAUSE I'LL PROBABLY TAKE MY OLD SEAT RIGHT DOWN THERE BY TERRA. I STARTED DOWN THERE.

SO ANYWAY, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING, COUNTY

MANAGER. >> JUST, CHAIR, A LOT OF EVENTS ARE COMING UP ON SATURDAYS DECEMBER 6 AND 13TH.

THERE ARE MANY THINGS LISTED. I KNOW LAURA IS TRACKING THAT FROM THE TOURISM DEPARTMENT AND TIM FROM EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. I KNOW THAT'S JUMPING AHEAD FROM THANKSGIVING, BT WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING UNTIL THE 9TH SO I WANTED TO MENTION

THAT. >> ABSOLUTELY.

SHOP LOCAL. ANYONE THAT WENT TO THE FARM CITY DINNER THURSDAY NIGHT IF THEY GOT THEIR INVITATION, THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO HEAR CONGRESSMAN BEAN, AND THEY GOT ME BECAUSE THE SPEAKER CANCELED DAYS AT HOME, SO I SPOKE AND I SAID SEE IF YOU CAN SHOP FOR YOUR THANKSGIVING DINNER FROM LOCAL FARMS. AND SO ONE IN COMMISSIONER BURKE'S DISTRICT, MIDDLETON FARMS, I KNOW HAS GREENS.

THERE'S SOME OTHERS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GET A TURKEY YET OR I THINK YOU PROBABLY HAD TO PUT YOUR RESERVATION IN A WHILE AGO TO GET A LOCAL TURKEY, BUT GREAT MESSAGE TO SHOP SMALL.

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