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OKAY. SO, WELCOME TO EVERYONE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING, ESPECIALLY IN THE WEATHER, AND THERE'S A JAGUAR FOOTBALL GAME TONIGHT.
SO, WE PROMISE -- I THINK SOMEBODY IS ATTENDING.
I FORGET WHO IT WAS, BUT SOMEBODY HAS TO RUN OUT TO BE
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ABLE TO ATTEND. SO, WELCOME TO THE '25- '26 CLAY COUNTY CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION. I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF. I'M COURTNEY GRAHAM. I SERVE AS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, AND ALONG WITH TERESA CAPO, I BELIEVE MOST OF YOU AT LEAST KNOW HER BY EMAIL.SO, WE SORT OF HELP GET YOU GUYS GOING UNTIL YOU ELECT YOUR CHAIR, YOUR VICE CHAIR, AND THEN YOU RETAIN SEPARATE COUNSEL THAT WILL SORT OF GUIDE YOU THROUGH THIS PROCESS. YOU WERE ALL SELECTED BY OUR BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, SO THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS, UNDER THE CHARTER, THE -- EACH COMMISSIONER SELECTED THREE MEMBERS, PLUS AN ALTERNATE, AND THEN THE BOARD VOTED TO ACCEPT ALL OF YOU. SO, THAT'S WHY EACH OF YOU ARE HERE. YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE WITHIN THAT COMMISSIONER'S DISTRICT, ALTHOUGH THEY DO CHOOSE -- THEY TRY, AND WITH THAT GOAL. THE ALTERNATES, HOWEVER, ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FROM WITHIN THAT COMMISSIONER'S DISTRICT.
SO, THESE ARE YOUR THREE ALTERNATES, BUT WE DO HAVE TWO OTHERS THAT WERE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND TONIGHT.
THE ALTERNATE FROM DISTRICT ONE, MIKE, WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND, AND THEN ALSO THE ALTERNATE FROM DISTRICT FIVE, MELISSA, WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND. ALL RIGHT, SO, FIRST, TO GET US STARTED, EACH OF YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THE HOME RULE CHARTER.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, AND THAT'S YOUR JOB OR YOUR DUTY IN CONNECTION WITH SERVING ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
IT IS ALSO ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE, IF YOU NEED IT, SO IT'S ACCESSIBLE THERE AS WELL.
AS I EXPLAINED, YOU WERE ALL APPOINTED. YOU WERE APPOINTED AT THE SEPTEMBER 9TH MEETING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CHARTER. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING WITHIN 30 SO, THIS IS YOUR ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING, AND AT THIS MEETING, YOU SELECT YOUR CHAIRMAN AND YOUR VICE CHAIRMAN, AND THEN YOU'RE OFF TO THE RACES. SO, WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD START WITH IS LET'S JUST GO AROUND THE ROOM AND HAVE EACH OF YOU JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF, SAY WHICH DISTRICT YOU ARE -- OR WHICH COMMISSIONER SELECTED YOU, AND SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF SO THAT YOU CAN ALL GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER AND, YOU KNOW, KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EACH OTHER'S BACKGROUND. DOES ANYONE WANT TO START?
>> HEY, GUYS. MY NAME IS BRANDON. I WAS APPOINTED BY MS. COMPARE, AND I'M A STRICT PRODUCT LIABILITY ATTORNEY, TAX ATTORNEY, AND PERSONAL INJURY ATTORNEY, AND I'VE KNOWN HER FOR QUITE SOME TIME, SO I REACHED OUT TO HER, AND SHE HAD SAID THAT WE HAVE THE CHARTER REVIEW HERE TO -- FOR EDITING AND WHATNOT, AND WE HAVE ANOTHER YEAR UP, AND I SAID, WELL, I VOLUNTEER. LET'S DO IT.
>> BEFORE WE MOVE TO YOU, SIR, YOU REMINDED ME.
YOUR MICROPHONE SHOULD HAVE A LITTLE BUTT ENGINE ON IN FRONT OF THEM. JUST HIT THEM SO THEY'RE GREEN SO THE RECORDING CAN PICK UP YOUR COMMENTS.
>> HELLO, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS SUSAN CALLAHAN.
I'VE LIVED IN GREEN COVE FOR 29 YEARS.
I'M A RETIRED REGISTERED NURSE, AND I'M SO EXCITED TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE, BECAUSE I LOVE CLAY COUNTY, AND I WANT TO SEE WHAT I CAN DO TO KEEP IT AS GOOD AS IT IS OR EVEN MAKE IT BETTER.
>> GREAT. ALL RIGHT, RANDY BOWMAN, GENERAL MANAGER ORANGE PARK MALL, APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONER RENGER. HONORED TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE.
>> GOOD EVENING. I'M LEN HERRING.
BETSY CONDON ASKED ME TO SERVE HERE WITH Y'ALL.
I'M A RETIRED TWO- STAR NAVY ADMIRAL.
I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS. AND I AM CURRENTLY SERVING AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE FOX MEADOW CIVIC ASSOCIATION, SO WE REPRESENT A LARGE COMMUNITY WITH A GREAT INTEREST TO KEEP CLAY COUNTY AS PEACEFUL AND AS AMERICAN AS WE CAN.
I DON'T HAVE THE FANCY CREDENTIALS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I AGREE WITH EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID.
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I LOVE CLAY COUNTY, AND I'VE ALWAYS HAD THE ATTITUDE IF IT'S MY NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S MY BUSINESS.IT'S MY BUSINESS TO KNOW WHAT GOES ON IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. AND ALEXANDER COMPARE ASKED ME, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. COURTNEY CONNOR. I WAS APPOINTED HERE OR RECOMMENDED BY JB, DISTRICT 3.
SUPER GLAD TO BE HERE. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE CLAY COUNTY, AND I'M -- I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THIS COUNTY AND SERVING THIS COUNTY IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE. I AM A MANAGER FOR BAPTIST HEALTH. I DO THEIR EMS SUPPORT AS WELL AS THEIR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR THE HEALTH SYSTEM.
I'M ALSO AN ATTORNEY, NOT CURRENTLY PRACTICING, BUT LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING THIS COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.
>> HI. MY NAME IS DEBBIE PASCAL.
WE MOVED HERE IN 2014, AND I WAS ATTRACTED TO THIS.
WE WERE EITHER GOING TO GO TO ST. LOUIS OR HERE, AND I'M SO HAPPY WE MOVED HERE.
THE THING THAT REALLY ATTRACTED ME TO THIS AREA WAS I GREW UP IN THE MILITARY, AND WE LIVE IN OAK LEAF AND IT'S LIKE LIVING ON BASE, SO I'VE FALLEN IN LOVE WITH CLAY COUNTY. I WORK A LOT WITH THE -- WITH LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT I GET TO KNOW AND I JUST LOVE IT HERE. AND I DEFINITELY AGREE.
I WANT TO KEEP THIS THE BEST PLACE THAT IT IS.
SO, I'M HAPPY TO GET TO BE INVOLVED.
>> GOOD EVENING. I'M RHONDA JETT. I HAIL FROM UTNAM COUNTY A LONG TIME AGO, BUT THIS IS HOME, AND IT'S WHERE MY HEART IS.
I'M IN THE GOVERNMENTAL CIRCLES HERE IN CLAY COUNTY.
I AM A GOVERNMENT LIAISON FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BOTH FROM A COUNTY LEVEL, STATE LEVEL AND NATIONAL LEVEL.
SO, I'VE BEEN AROUND THIS BLOCK A TIME OR TWO.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING WITH ALL OF YOU FRESH FACES, IT'S GOOD TO SEE FRESH FACES AND NEW IDEAS. LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
>> TIM NGUYEN. I'VE BEEN IN PUBLIC SERVICE FOR PRETTY÷÷PRETTY ALL MY CAREER.
BEEN IN CLAY COUNTY FOR 25 YEARS.
I'M CURRENTLY A DISTRICT CHIEF FOR A LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT. BETSY CONDON ASKED ME O SERVE ON THIS BOARD. I'M ALSO A DISTRICT ONE SUPERVISOR OF CLAY, SOIL, AND WATER.
JUST BEEN SERVING ALL MY LIFE.
MILITARY, FIRE DEPARTMENT, JUST LOVE TO SERVE THIS COUNTY.
LOOKING FORWARD TO SERVING WITH ALL YOU GUYS.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KURT.
MY FAMILY AND I HAVE LIVED HERE IN CLAY COUNTY FOR 29 YEARS. BOYS HAVE ALL GONE TO SCHOOL HERE. I AM A CIVIL ENGINEERING CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT EXPERT.
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH A LOT OF PROJECTS. MY EXPERTISE IS IN SCHEDULING, AND I AM FORTUNATE ENOUGH RIGHT NOW TO BE THE INDIVIDUAL WHO THE STATE USES TO REVIEW AND ANALYZE CONTRACTOR SCHEDULES FOR THE TOLL ROAD.
SO, EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS ON THE TOLL ROAD, THAT RIGHT NOW IS OPEN TO HIGHWAY 17, THE SHANS BRIDGE, WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THE ST. JOHN'S RIVERSIDE TO SILVER LEAF, WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND THEN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE, THEY'RE GETTING READY TO AWARD THE FINAL PIECE OF THE TOLL ROAD THAT WILL GO FROM SILVER LEAF TO I-95.
SO, I HAVE A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY EACH MONTH TO REVIEW AND ADVISE THE STATE ON WHERE THE CONTRACTORS ARE WITH REGARD TO BEING BEHIND, AHEAD, OR ON SCHEDULE.
AND I ENJOY THAT, BUT WHAT IS REALLY BECOME IMPORTANT TO ME IN DOING THIS IS REALIZING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO CLAY COUNTY WHEN THAT TOLL ROAD IS COMPLETE. WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE PEOPLE IN CLAY COUNTY AREN'T USED TO. YOU TALK ABOUT HOW QUIET CLAY COUNTY IS AND HOW NICE IT IS. THAT'S ABOUT TO CHANGE.
AND MAYBE FIVE OR SIX OR SEVEN YEARS FROM NOW BEFORE WE SEE THE FULL EXPERIENCE FROM THAT, BUT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE WILL GO A LONG WAY TO HELPING DETERMINE EXACTLY THE DIRECTION THAT CLAY COUNTY TAKES. SO, IF AT ANY TIME YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE TOLL ROAD, I'LL TELL YOU THE TRUTH. DON'T LISTEN TO THE CONTRACTORS OR THETHE PEOPLE GET UP AND TELL YOU HOW GREAT IT IS. COME SEE ME.
>> MY NAME IS VAN ROYAL. SANDRA AND I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 38 YEARS. I OWN EXIT MAGNOLIA POINT REALTY. I SERVED ON CITY COUNCIL AND WAS MAYOR OF GREEN COVE SPRINGS. I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CHANGES, AND THIS IS A WONDERFUL GROUP.
I'M EXCITED ABOUT LEARNING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU AND WORKING WITH YOU.
AND BETSY CONDON NOMINATED ME.
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>> GOOD EVENING. MATTHEW MITCHELL, AND CURRENTLY A HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER RIGHT HERE IN CLAY COUNTY. PREVIOUSLY, I'VE DONE A LOT OF POLITICAL WORK AT THE STATE AND LOCAL LEVEL AS WELL. FIRST, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE SERVING ALONGSIDE YOU GUYS. OBVIOUSLY, MY FIRST TIME ON THE CHARTER COMMISSION. SO, HONORED TO BE HERE, AND COMMISSIONER BERGMAN NOMINATED ME.
>> I'M SCOTTY TAYLOR. MY FAMILY GOES BACK LIKE SIX GENERATIONS IN CLAY COUNTY. I LIVE DOWN IN MIDDLEBURGH. I SERVED ON THE INAUGURAL CHARTER COMMISSION WHEN IT WAS FIRST PUT IN PLACE.
I SERVED ON THREE OTHER CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSIONS IN THE PAST, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH Y'ALL IN ANY WAY I CAN.
AND I WAS APPOINTED BY -- OR I WAS NOMINATED BY COMMISSIONER CONDON.
>> HANG ON A SECOND. I'LL GET UP.
GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS JOE DELGADO.
I'M A DEACON SERVING AT THE MORNING STAR FAMILY CHURCH HERE IN MIDDLEBURGH.
COMMISSIONER COMPARE ASKED ME TO BE PART OF IT.
MY SCHEDULE IS CRAZY, SO I SAID, I'LL BE THE ALTERNATE, THAT'S FINE.
I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR CLAY COUNTY FOR 30 YEARS, 31 YEARS ALREADY.
AND IT'S BEEN BEAUTIFUL LIVING HERE IN CLAY COUNTY, ESPECIALLY SEEING WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN THE OTHER COUNTIES, TO COMPARE OUR COUNTY TO THE OTHERS, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF STABILITY, A LOT OF GROWTH THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
AND I'M REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE.
I THINK WE ALL HAVE THE SAME VISION, WHICH IS TO KEEP AND MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF THIS COUNTY, TRANSPARENCY, TO IMPROVE IT, AND TO KEEP ON GOING.
SO, I'M HAPPY TO BE A PART OF IT.
I DID WANT TO SHARE ONE THING HERE.
ROMANS 13:1 SAYS, "LET EVERY SOUL BE SUBJECT UNTO THE HIGHER POWERS FOR THERE IS NO POWER BUT OF GOD. THE POWERS THAT BE ARE ORDAINED BY GOD. " SO, EACH ONE OF US THAT ARE HERE NOW HAVE BEEN ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN THE EYES OF THE LORD.
SO, I THINK WE HAVE THAT IN OUR POWER. SO, I'M JUST LOOKING FORWARD FOR EVERYBODY TO HELPING ANYBODY OUT IN ANY WAY I CAN. THANK YOU.
>> HELLO, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS BILL.
I'M AN INVESTMENT ADVISOR. I WORK FOR CAPITAL FINANCIAL STRATEGIES. I WAS RAISED ON THE WEST SIDE, MOVED OUT TO CLAY COUNTY, ORANGE PARK IN PARTICULAR IN 1983. SO, I, TOO, HAVE SEEN THE EXPLOSION AND KNOW WHAT CLAY COUNTY USED TO BE AND WHAT IT IS TODAY AND WHAT IT'S TO BECOME SOON.
LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING AN ALTERNATE AND SERVING ON THIS BOARD AND BEING ABLE TO GIVE SOME INPUT. THANK YOU.
>> LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST. YUL.
SO, THIS IS MY SECOND GO-AROUND, AND FIRST GO-AROUND WAS GREAT.
THIS IS GOING TO BE EVEN GREATER.
I'VE LIVED IN CLAY COUNTY ON AND OFF FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS. MY FAMILY IS HERE.
OUR BOY CAME THROUGH THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS HERE.
I'VE SEEN ONE END OF CLAY TO THE OTHER, AND I'M VERY, VERY INTERESTED IN MAINTAINING THAT QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THIS COMMUNITY. WE ARE A JEWEL, AND WE ARE A SPOT THAT I THINK THAT MOST THAT CONSIDER NORTHEAST FLORIDA WOULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER. IN TERMS OF WHAT I DO ON THE DAY-TO- DAY, I'M A PROFESSIONAL AIRPORT MANAGER. I MANAGE THE MUNICIPAL AIRPORT, SO SOME OF THE ECONOMIC INDICATORS THAT COME THROUGH THE AIRPORT, I SEE THEM.
I SEE THE REGIONAL TIES TO THE TRAFFIC THERE.
AND YOU KNOW, I MUST SAY, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT THINGS THAT ARE AROUND THE CORNER FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
AND I REALLY BELIEVE IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW WE BEST MANAGE THE GROWTH. GROWTH IS GREAT.
WHEN MANAGED WELL. SO, LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EACH OF YOU, AND I'M PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT IT. THANKS.
>> SO, THE TWO OTHER MEMBERS THAT÷÷THAT -- WERE UNABLE TO ATTEND TONIGHT ARE STEVE ANDERSON AND CHRISTY PERRY,
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BUT HOPEFULLY THEY'LL BE ABLE TO JOIN YOU AT YOUR NEXT MEETING. WE DO HAVE COMMISSIONER RENEGER AND COMMISSIONER WANNAMAKER[1. Discussion of Duties and Requirements of CRC]
HERE. DO YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR SAY ANYTHING? OKAY, SO, MOVING RIGHT ALONG. LET'S JUST MOVE INTO THE DUTIES AND REQUIREMENTS OF THE CRC.SO THE CHARTER SAYS THAT THE CRC SHALL REVIEW THE HOME RULE CHARTER AND PROPOSE ANY AMENDMENTS OR REVISIONS WHICH MAY BE ADVISABLE FOR PLACEMENT ON THE GENERAL ELECTION BALLOT.
SO, EVERYTHING FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT IS DRIVEN BY NEXT NOVEMBER.
SO, YOU WILL WORK TOWARDS IF YOU HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS OR ANYTHING THAT YOU NEED OR WOULD LIKE TO MAKE YOU WORK TOWARDS THAT NOVEMBER DEADLINE. IN ORDER TO FACILITATE YOUR DUTIES, THROUGH TERESA, WE WILL SET UP MEETINGS BETWEEN NOW AND -- MAY IS REALLY YOUR CUTOFF, BECAUSE IN ORDER TO MAKE YOUR NOVEMBER DEADLINE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING PRETTY MUCH SET BY MAY, BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS. SO, IF YOU COME THROUGH THE PROCESS, AND YOU DECIDE THAT THERE IS AN AMENDMENT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE TO BE PUT ON THE BALLOT, THE PROCEDURE THEREBY THAT YOU WILL HAVE THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THAT PROPOSED AMENDMENT.
THERE WILL BE AT LEAST TEN DAYS APART.
AND THOSE WOULD BE DONE DURING THE MONTHS OF JUNE AND THE VERY BEGINNING OF JULY.
NOW, AFTER YOU HAVE ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON YOUR PROPOSALS, IF YOU VOTE TO APPROVE AN ATTEMPT MENDMENT OR REVISION, THEN IT IS ACTUALLY PRESENTED÷÷ TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
THEIR ROLE WILL BE TO PLACE ON IT BALLOT FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION FOR YOU.
THAT HAS TO BE DONE 90 DAYS PRIOR TO THE GENERAL ELECTION. WHEN WE'RE WORKING BACKWARDS FROM NOVEMBER, THAT REALLY MEANSMEANS THE BOARD HAD TO APPROVE THAT BY AUGUST, THE VERY BEGINNING OF AUGUST. AND SO, BASED ON OUR TIME FRAME, WE SHOOT FOR THE END OF JULY. YOU'LL WORK UP UNTIL MAY.
THAT GIVES YOU TIME, THEN, TO JUNE AND JULY, HAVE YOUR MEETINGS, HAVE IT APPROVED BY THE BOARD, AND HAVE IT PLACED ON THE BALLOT. SO, AS FAR AS JUST GETTING, MOVING FORWARD, LATER, WE'LL HAVE YOU ELECT YOUR CHAIR AND YOUR VICE CHAIR. AND THEN BEFORE WE ADJOURN, WE'LL WORK ON SCHEDULING YOUR NEXT MEETING.
THE BOARDROOM IS VERY BUSY, AND SO IT'S HARD TO FIND DATES.
TERESA AND I HAVE SORT OF BLOCKED OUT SOME DATES FOR YOUR NEXT MEETING IN OCTOBER THAT WE CAN PRESENT TO YOU.
HOPEFULLY ONE WILL WORK, AND IF YOU WANT TO GET ON A SCHEDULE, IT WILL BE UP TO YOU. IF YOU WANT TO MEET EVERY TWO WEEKS, EVERY THREE WEEKS, YOU KNOW, ON A MONDAY, A WEDNESDAY, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THAT, BUT THAT'S AT YOUR DISCRETION AND WHAT WORKS BEST FOR ALL OF YOU.
NOW, A LOT OF YOU HAVE SERVED IN PUBLIC ROLES, SO YOU KNOW SUNSHINE, AND SO NOW THAT YOU'RE ON THIS COMMITTEE, YOU CAN ONLY DISCUSS THESE ITEMS ONCE YOU'RE ALL TOGETHER AS A COMMITTEE.
SO, YOU KNOW, COURTNEY CAN'T SEE SHERRY AT SWEET SENSATIONS AND START TALKING ABOUT CRC BUSINESS. IT HAS TO ALL BE CONDUCTED HERE. SO, YOU NEED TO JUST REMEMBER THAT, AND YOU NEED TO REMEMBER THE PERCEPTION. IF YOU'RE SEEN OUT AND SEEN DISCUSSING A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE WOULD, YOU KNOW, PRESUME THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CRC BUSINESS. SO, JUST REMEMBER THAT YOU -- THE SUNSHINE LAW DOES APPLY.
ALL YOUR BUSINESS DOES NEED TO BE DONE DURING AN ADVERTISED MEETING. AS FAR AS ADVERTISING THE MEETINGS, TERESA WILL HELP US DO THAT.
SHE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT. ALSO KNOW THAT YOUR MEETINGS ARE BEING RECORDED AND BROADCAST. SO THAT IS OUT THERE.
IF YOU DECIDE TO SET UP ANY COMMITTEES, YOU'RE CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A CERTAIN TOPIC AND YOU WANT TO SET UP A SUBCOMMITTEE TO WORK ON THAT, YOU CAN DO THAT AS WELL. BUT REMEMBER THAT THAT IS ALSO PART OF THE SUNSHINE.
SO, WE'LL HAVE TO HELP YOU WITH THAT.
SO, BECAUSE OF THE POSITION, YOU WILL HAVE A COUNTY EMAIL.
SO, TERESA PASSED OUT FOR EACH OF YOU A LITTLE SLIP OF PAPER. SO, YOU WILL NEED TO USE THAT EMAIL AND LEARN HOW TO CHECK THAT EMAIL FOR ALL OF YOUR CRC BUSINESS. SHE WILL -- THERE WAS A LITTLE, I GUESS, WE HAVE THIS AUTHENTICATION PROCESS, SO I.T.
WILL -- SHE'LL GIVE IT YOUR PERSONAL CELL PHONE, AND THEN SHE'LL EMAIL YOU ON YOUR PERSONAL EMAIL WHEN IT'S SORT SORT A GO TIME, AND THEN THEY WILL SEND YOU THE AUTHENTICATION CODE TO YOUR PERSONAL PHONE, AND THAT'S HOW YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SET UP YOUR EMAIL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY TROUBLE, TERESA CAN HELP YOU.
YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH I.T. AND GET ORGANIZED FOR THAT.
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SHE LOVES BEING YOUR EMAIL PAL. NOW, JUST REMEMBER THAT WHEN YOU RECEIVE EMAILS, DON'T REPLY ALL.YOU KNOW? DISCUSSING, WELL, I REALLY DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS OR NOT DISCUSSING THAT.
EMAILS ARE ALSO COMMUNICATING BUSINESS, SO AGAIN, THAT ALL HAS TO BE DONE HERE.
ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC COMMENT. SO, THAT'S ANOTHER ITEM.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S ON YOUR AGENDA, AND IF YOU WANT TO -- ONCE YOU SELECT YOUR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE ORDER, JUST LET TERESA AND I KNOW. WE CURRENTLY HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
YOU NEED TO AT LEAST HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT IF YOU WANT TO CHOOSE IT TO MOVE IT TO THE BEGINNING OR HAVE IT AT THE BEGINNING AND THE END, THAT IS UP TO YOU. WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT. I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH OUR ACTUAL BOARD MEETINGS.
THE BOARD MEETINGS HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE BEGINNING AND AT THE END.
AND WE HAVE CARDS THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK, THAT YOU FILL OUT AND COMPLETE THE CARDS.
YOU PROVIDE THEM TO CHRISTINE. AND WE LIMIT THE TIME TO THREE MINUTES, SO WE WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU FOLLOW THAT SAME PROCEDURE.
ONE THING THAT YOU WILL NOTE FROM PUBLIC COMMENT IS THAT IT'S A TIME FOR THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIZENS TO COMMENT, BUT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ANSWER.
IT'S A TIME FOR THEM TO EXPRESS THEIR THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS, AND IT WOULD REALLY BE THROUGH THE CHAIR AS TO WHETHER YOU RESPOND AT THAT TIME OR YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
JUST REMEMBER THAT. ALL RIGHT, SO, NOW THE ACTUAL CHARTER. IT BECAME EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1, 1991. SCOTTY WAS HERE THEN.
WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT THE COUNTY -- OH, YES?
>> GOT TO PRESS THE BUTTON. >> IT SHUT OFF.
>> OKAY. NOW, THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT YOU CAN'T JUST CONTACT ME INDIVIDUALLY OR IF YOU HAVE -- ONCE WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU RETAIN COUNSEL, YOU CAN CONTACT THEM SEPARATELY ON YOUR OWN AND OBTAIN ADVICE.
YEP. OKAY, SO, CURRENTLY, THERE ARE 20 CHARTER COUNTIES OUT OF THE 67 FLORIDA COUNTIES. WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT A CHARTER COUNTY IS THAT BASICALLY, AS A CHARTER COUNTY, YOU AREN'T LIMITED TO THE SPECIFIC POWERS.
SO, YOU CAN -- AS A CHARTER COUNTY, WE CAN DO EVERYTHING AS LONG AS THE LEGISLATURE HASN'T PREEMPTED US.
SO, WE THINK OF IT AS A BROADER POWER.
IN THE BACK OF YOUR -- I HOPE IT PRINTED. IN THE VERY BACK OF YOUR CHARTER, YOU SHOULD SEE WHERE THE -- THERE'S A CHART THAT SHOWS -- YES.
YES. THE CHART THAT SHOWS THE DIFFERENT AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED OVER TIME.
NOW, THOSE ARE ONLY AMENDMENTS THAT ACTUALLY WERE VOTED ON AND APPROVED BY THE VOTERS.
THERE HAVE BEEN MANY TIMES THAT AMENDMENTS HAVE GONE FORWARD THAT THE VOTERS HAVEN'T APPROVED.
BUT THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT, SINCE IT WAS ENACTED IN '91, HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN MADE.
UNDER YOUR CHARTER, THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT MECHANISMS FOR PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT.
YOU CAN HAVE A CITIZEN PETITION. YOU CAN AVE YOUR AMENDMENTS. AND THEN ALSO, THE BOARD HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE AMENDMENTS AS WELL. THEY ALL HAVE TO GO TO THE VOTERS AND BE VOTED ON.
IT WILL BE UP TO YOU ONCE WE SELECT YOUR CHAIR HOW YOU DECIDE TO GO ABOUT IT. IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A SEPARATE ARTICLE IN EACH MEETING, LIKE REVIEW THAT. YOU'LL COME UP WITH YOUR OWN SYSTEM AS TO HOW YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO REVIEW IT AND MAKE DECISIONS AS TO, HEY, DO WE WANT TO PROPOSE ANY AMENDMENTS TO ARTICLE 1, SECTION -- YOU KNOW? AND JUST MOVE THROUGH THEM, JUST DO IT IN AN ORDERLY FASHION. JUST TO GIVE YOU A FLAVOR OF THINGS THAT HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, SO, BACK IN -- WELL, LAST YEAR. SO, LAST YEAR, THERE WERE THREE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE ONTHE BALLOT.
ONE WAS A COST OF LIVING INCREASE TO SALARIES FOR THE COMMISSIONERS.
ANOTHER ONE WAS REMOVING THE TERM LIMIT FOR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS.
AND THE THIRD WAS AN AMENDMENT TO REVISE THE APPOINTMENT TIME FRAME FOR THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION. BACK IN '17- '18, THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT TO REVISE THE COMMISSIONER TERM LIMIT PROVISION, AN AMENDMENT TO REVISE THE COMMISSIONER
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SALARY, AND THEN AN AMENDMENT TO ADD TERM LIMITS FOR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICES, AS WELL AS AN AMENDMENT TO REVISE THE TIME PERIOD FOR APPOINTMENT OF THE CHARTER REVIEW.OF THOSE, OVER THE PAST TWO SESSIONS, THERE HAS ONLY BEEN ONE THAT WAS -- HAS BEEN APPROVED, WHICH WAS THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS TERM LIMITS.
SO, AS YOU MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, YOU MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT DIFFERENT PROVISIONS.
YOU MAY NEED SOME HISTORICAL INFORMATION.
ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS. YOU MIGHT WANT A REFERENCE TO A FLORIDA STATUTE OR SOMETHING. LET TERESA AND I KNOW.
WE DIG IT UP ALL THE TIME FOR FOR DIFFERENT INFORMATION THAT YOU MAY NEED.
WE ARE THE STAFF HERE TO PROVIDE RESOURCES TO YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE IT.
SO, ALL RIGHT. AT THIS POINT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, REALLY, ABOUT THE PROCESS, ABOUT THE CHARTER? BECAUSE OTHERWISE, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO SELECTING THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR.
BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THE PROCESS WILL RUN OR WHAT YOU'RE HERE TO LOOK AT OR ANYTHING?
>> THERE'S ONE QUICK QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO REACHING OUTOUT EITHER YOU OR TERESA FOR POTENTIALLY SOME HISTORICAL REVIEW OR -- CAN WE DO THAT OUTSIDE OF THE CRC MEETINGS VIA OUR ASSIGNED EMAIL? OR DO WE HAVE TO DO IT HERE?
>> NOPE. YOU CAN DO IT OUTSIDE.
THAT'S FINE. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.
>> REGARDING THE SUNSHINE LAW, WE CAN'T DISCUSS ANYTHING WITHIN OURSELVES BUT WHAT ABOUT OUR
AND THE CITIZENS. SO, I DON'T KNOW IF THE RED LIGHT CAME ON WHEN YOU WERE TALKING.
IT JUST MEANS THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU.
YOU MUST NOT HAVE YOUR GREEN BUTTON.
SO, ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? ANYTHING THAT YUL OR SCOTTY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE FROM PAST CRCS?
>> I THINK YUL REMEMBERS, THEY HAD PAST -- THE PAST COUNTY ATTORNEY, MARC, CAME AND GAVE A HISTORICAL REVIEW OF THE BEGINNING OF THE CHARTER AND WHAT TRANSPIRED FROM THEN TO NOW. AND THAT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN HERE, BACK IN THOSE DAYS. AND SO, I'D RECOMMEND THAT YOU EITHER TALK TO MARC OR JOHN OR SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME THAT'S FAMILIAR WITH THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT, CAN KIND OF GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE CHARTER.
>> MY TAKEAWAY FROM THE LAST EXPERIENCE WOULD BE, JUST REMEMBER THAT THIS IS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, NOT ABOUT US. BUT IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY. SO, HAVE PATIENCE.
THIS IS A -- SEEMS LIKE MORE OF A MARATHON THAN A SPRINT, BUT IT'S AN EXPERIENCE THAT I HAVE ENJOYED. OBVIOUSLY, IF I DIDN'T, I WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY. SO, GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY DIRECT OUR HOME AND OUR COMMUNITY.
>> COULD YOU GIVE US AN OVERVIEW AS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CHARTER, THE 20 COUNTIES, VERSUS THE OTHER COUNTIES THAT ARE NOT
CHARTERS. >> IT'S REALLY THE BREADTH OF WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO.
SO, WE AREN'T LIMITED -- WE'RE ONLY LIMITED BY LAWS THAT PREEMPT LOCAL GOVERNMENT FROM DOING ANYTHING.
OTHERWISE, WE HAVE PRETTY BROAD RANGE.
WHEREAS OTHER COUNTIES WOULD BE RESTRICTED BECAUSE THEY CAN ONLY DO WHAT IS ALREADY SET IN GENERAL LAW. IT'S A HARD -- UNTIL YOU GET INTO IT AND REALIZE ALL THE THINGS WE'RE PREEMPTED FROM AND HOW IT WORKS.
>> WELL, YOU COULD MAKE A REQUEST OR AN AMENDMENT, AND IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE BALLOT.
IT WOULD BE DECIDED BY THE VOTERS.
>> HAS THAT BEEN DONE IN THE PAST?
OF THAT? >> NOT THAT I'M -- NO.
>> WE ARE THE - - OUT OF THE 22 COUNTIES, I BELIEVE, THAT ARE CHARTERED COUNTIES, WE ARE THE LEAST POPULATED OF ALL THOSE OTHER COUNTIES.
THE OTHER COUNTIES BEING SIGNIFICANTLY BIGGER.
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MIAMI DADE, JACKSONVILLE, ORANGE, PINELAS, HILLSBORO, THOSE COUNTIES ARE A LOT LARGER THAN WE ARE AND HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT -- SOME OF THEM HAVE, INSTEAD OF HAVING FIVE COMMISSIONERS, THEY HAVE SEVEN OR MORE.JACKSONVILLE'S GOT THAT CONSOLIDATED GOVERNMENT.
IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT ANIMAL. BUT AS FAR AS I'M -- I CAN REMEMBER, THEY'VE NEVER COME UP WITH DOING AWAY WITH THE CHARTER. I WOULD -- IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT DOING THAT, I WOULD INVITE PEOPLE TO TALK FOR KEEPING THE CHARTER AND PEOPLE THAT WILL COME AND TALK ABOUT DOING AWAY WITH THE CHARTER AND THE EFFECTS IT WILL HAVE ON THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
[2. Appointments of Chair and Vice Chair]
>> ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT, SO, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, I WILL LEAVE TO IT YOU TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AS TO NOMINATING SOMEONE TO FILL THE ROLE AS CHAIR. OH.
>> I SELECT AND NOMINATE SOMEBODY.
>> OKAY. >> CAN I READ SOMETHING THAT I WROTE?
>> ALL RIGHT. I FEEL THAT BEING THE CHAIR OF OUR COMMITTEE IS A VERY IMPORTANT POSITION, AND ONE THAT LEADS US -- THE ONE THAT LEADS US SHOULD BE THE MOST QUALIFIED, EXPERIENCED, AND COMMITTED TO THIS ROLE. THAT IS WHY I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE DR. CONNOR AS OUR CHAIR. I HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO WORK WITH DR. CONNOR AND WITNESS HER SKILLS AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AMAZED WITH HER COMMUNICATION SKILLS.
SHE LEADS IN A WAY THAT MAKES YOU FEEL THAT YOUR VOICE IS HEARD AND THAT YOUR THOUGHTS DO MATTER. SHE ALWAYS PROMOTES A PROFESSIONAL ATMOSPHERE IN ALL THE MEETINGS THAT SHE LEADS. I HAVE SEEN HER MANAGE ASPECTS OF MEETINGS FROM TIME MANAGEMENT TO DIFFICULT PARTIES IN A POSITIVE WAY SO THAT FEELINGS DON'T GET HURT.
DR. CONNOR LOVES HER COMMUNITY AND HAS A SERVANT'S HEART. SHE IS 100% COMMITTED TO CLAY COUNTY AND WILL WORK VERY HARD AND MAKE US PROUD. I KNOW IF YOU WILL SUPPORT ME IN ELECTING DR. CONNOR AS OUR CHAIR, THIS WILL BE THE BEST CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE THEY WILL HAVE EVER SEEN.
DR. COURTNEY CONNOR CURRENTLY SERVES AS THE EMS LIAISON AND MANAGER OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR BAPTIST HOSPITAL. SHE'S ALSO ON THE BOARD OF NORTHEAST FLORIDA COMMITTEE ACTIONS AGENCY, REPRESENTING THE CLAY COUNTY COMMISSIONERS SINCE DECEMBER OF 2024.
SHE'S A BOARD MEMBER OF THE ELDER SOURCE, WHERE SHE SERVES AS CHAIR OF THEIR BYLAWS AND PERSONAL COMMITTEE. PAST PRESIDENT OF THE CLAY BAR ASSOCIATION, PAST PRESIDENT OF THE FIRST COAST DISASTER COUNCIL. SHE'S AN ATTORNEY, AND SHE'S PRACTICED FOR FOUR YEARS. SHE'S ALSO A PH.D.
IN COMMUNITY CONFLICT ANALYSIS AND RESOLUTION. SO, SHE'S AN OVERACHIEVER AND SHE'S MORE THAN CAPABLE OF LEADING THIS COMMITTEE. SO, PLEASE JOIN ME IN VOTING FOR DR. CONNOR AS OUR CHAIR.
>> OKAY, SO, WE HAVE ONE NOMINATION FOR COURTNEY CONNOR. IS THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? TO SERVE AS CHAIR?
>> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. WHO HAS BEEN ON THE COMMITTEE BEFORE? YUL, OBVIOUSLY, HAS BEEN ON THE COMMITTEE BEFORE.
>> AND WHO ELSE HAS BEEN ON THE COMMITTEE HERE? OKAY. SO, YEAH. I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE YUL.
>> I SECOND THAT. YOU WERE READING MY MIND.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S -- AND I RESPECT THAT.
YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYONE ARE CHAIRS FOR THIS KIND OF COMMITTEE. THIS COMMITTEE REQUIRES A MAJOR, MAJOR ORGANIZATIONAL SKILL THAT, I WILL BE FRANK WITH YOU, I'VE BEEN THROUGH IT BEFORE, AND THERE IS NO WAY THAT I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY KEEP THE ORGANIZATION TOGETHER.
IF YOU WANT TO NOMINATE ME FOR VICE CHAIR, I WILL CERTAINLY CONSIDER THAT AND PROVIDE MY BACKGROUND AND WISDOM TO THE CHAIRWOMAN, BUT YOU KNOW, IN ALL DUE RESPECT, I SUPPORT MS. CONNOR'S NOMINATION VERSUS MYSELF BEING THE CHAIR. BUT THANK YOU.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. SO, SINCE YOU CAN'T REALLY -- SOMEONE CAN DO A MOTION. RHONDA, WOULD YOU JUST DO A MOTION TO APPROVE?
>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE MS. COURTNEY CONNOR AS CHAIR OF THE CITIZENS INITIATIVE.
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ALL RIGHT, COURTNEY.>> I'LL PASS IT TO YOU FOR YOU TO RUN THROUGH AND LET'S OBTAIN A VICE CHAIR.
>> FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR YOUR CONFIDENCE AND MR. NAIR, I APPRECIATE YOU. I'M HERE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY. I'M HERE TO SERVE EVERYONE ELSE, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO GROWING AND, LIKE MR. DELGADO SAID, WORKING WITH INTEGRITY, TRANSPARENCY, AND WORKING FOR WELL- MANAGED GROWTH OF THIS COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE ALL HERE.
SO, I LOOK FORWARD TO ENGAGING WITH THIS WONDERFUL TEAM.
YOU ALL HAVE EXPERIENCE. YOU'RE HERE FOR A REASON.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING INTO EACH ONE OF YOUR EXTENDED BACKGROUNDS. SO, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP UP FOR DISCUSSION AND NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR.
>> I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE VICE CHAIR YUL MCNAIR.
>> I'LL GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT THE MOTION, AND WE HAVE -- I'M SORRY, WHO SECONDED THAT MOTION?
ANY FURTHER MOTIONS? ANY OPPOSITION? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT THE MOTION FOR YUL MCNAIR AS VICE CHAIR.
>> LET'S DO A FORMAL VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
>> ALL RIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS TO BOTH OF YOU.
[3. Discussion of Retention of CRC Counsel]
>> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION OF RETENTION OF CRC COUNSEL. SO, FOR YOUR CRC, IN THE PAST, WHAT WE HAVE FOUND THAT HAS WORKED BEST IS FOR YOU TO RETAIN OUTSIDE COUNSEL THAT WILL ACTUALLY ASSIST YOU WITH DRAFTING THE AMENDMENTS AND GUIDING YOU THROUGH THAT PROCESS IF THERE ARE VERY STRICT REQUIREMENTS AS TO WHAT, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY WORDS CAN BE IN THE TITLE AND, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU PHRASE IT AND THOSE TYPES OF REQUIREMENTS.
SO, WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS WE'VE TAKEN RECOMMENDATIONS FROM YOU, LIKE IF YOU KNOW ANYONE WHO YOU THINK MAY BE INTERESTED.
OBVIOUSLY, IT WOULD HELP IF SMBD HAS SOME LOCAL GOVERNMENT SOMEBODY HAS SOME LOCAL GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE.
OR IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS, WE CERTAINLY CAN, THROUGH TERESA AND I, WE CAN BRING UP OR ROUND UP SOME THAT WE DO KNOW OF AND WE WOULD BRING BACK. THE PLAN WOULD BE TO TAKE YOUR SUGGESTIONS OR YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS. WE WOULD REACH OUT AND CONTACT THEM, SEE IF THEY ARE INTERESTED, AND THEN WE WOULD BRING THEM BACK FOR THE NEXT MEETING FOR THEM TO PITCH THEMSELVES TO YOU, AND YOU KNOW, THEN YOU COULD CHOOSE AND MOVE FORWARD.
>> I'D LIKE TO BRING TO THE FLOOR A DISCUSSION OF JOHN DAVID HORN AS ATTORNEY TO RETAIN. HE'S VERY FAMILIAR, EMBEDDED IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND HE KNOWS THIS REALM VERY WELL. HE COMES FROM THIS BACKGROUND AS WELL. AND HE WOULD BRING JUST A GREAT PERSPECTIVE ON HOW -- SHOULD WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING TO PUT ON THE BALLOT.
HE'S VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD, VERY TRANSPARENT.
I HAVE ALREADY ASKED HIM, SO IN CASE HE WOULDN'T SAY NO.
SO, HE'S INTERESTED IF THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO. I DID PREEMPT THAT QUESTION BEFORE I BROUGHT HIM HERE.
I JUST -- HE'S JUST SUCH A GREAT PERSON AND A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL KNOWLEDGED ATTORNEY.
>> I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT MOTION.
>> THE -- HAVING A LOCAL ATTORNEY, WHETHER IT BE JOHN DAVID HORN, WHICH MANY OF US KNOW IN THIS ROOM. GOOD GUY.
GOOD ATTORNEY HERE, AND COMMITTED TO CLAY COUNTY OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS.
LAST TIME, GLENN TAYLOR SERVED ON -- AS THE ATTORNEY FOR THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
HE'S A LOCAL GUY. HE'S A PAST PROSECUTOR.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S INTERESTED IN SERVING AGAIN THIS TIME OR NOT, BUT HE WOULD BE A GOOD ONE.
BUT ANYWAY, SOMEBODY FROM CLAY COUNTY.
THEY WORK HERE. THEY PRACTICE LAW HERE IN OUR AREA. SO, I THINK SOMEBODY FROM THE COUNTY.
SOME ATTORNEY FROM THE COUNTY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
>> I ALSO, ALONG WITH MATT AND RHONDA, KNOW JOHN DAVID WELL.
AND I THINK HE WOULD DO AN EXCELLENT JOB.
HE'S VERY COMMITTED TO THE WORK THAT HE DOES, NO MATTER WHAT TASK IT IS. I DO KNOW HIM.
>> I'M NOT PUTTING FORTH A MOTION, BUT I AGREE.
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I KNOW JOHN DAVID, AND HE'S A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, AND HE LOVES THIS COMMUNITY DEARLY, AND I KNOW HE WOULD DO THIS COMMITTEE WELL. SO, THANK YOU, RHONDA, FOR THAT.>> DO WE GET OTHER, LIKE, IF -- IF ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION COMES TO MIND AT SOME FUTURE MEETING, COULD I MAKE THAT THEN? OR IS TODAY IT?
>> WELL, IT WOULD BE UP TO -- IF YOU WANTED TO DELAY THE RETENTION OF THE COUNSEL OR DELAY BRINGING THEM IN NEXT MEETING, THAT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU. I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT ESSENTIAL AT YOUR FIRST MEETING OR TWO. JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE
NOT -- >> I HAVE SOMEONE IN MIND, BUT I HAVEN'T ASKED HER YET, SO I THINK IT -- I JUST WAS THINKING I COULD MENTION A PERSON, BUT SHE MAY OR MAY NOT EVEN BE INTERESTED IN THE ROLE.
>> WELL, AND THAT'S CERTAINLY, IF YOU WANTED TO MENTION, THEN YOU COULD REACH OUT AND SHE COULD WITHDRAW HER NAME IF SHE WANTED, OR -- I MEAN, IT'S REALLY UP TO ALL OF YOU WHETHER YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO -- AND YOU KNOW, SOME OF YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW DR. TAYLOR OR MR. HORN, AND IT'S UP TO YOU.
>> WELL, MAY I, THEN, SAY THE NAME HODGES.
SHE'S THE ORANGE PARK ATTORNEY AND SHE'S SO INVOLVED WITH CHURCH AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND ALL ABOUT GROWTH AND GETTING PEOPLE TO MOVE FORWARD IN -- EVEN IN DIFFICULT SITUATIONS, AND I JUST HAVE KNOWN HER FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW AND JUST REALLY IMPRESSED WITH HER, SO I THINK SHE WOULD BE AN ASSET.
>> WE COULD CERTAINLY KEEP HER NAME ON THERE. WE WOULD JUST NEED TO CHECK WITH HER ASAS WHETHER SHE THINKS
THERE WOULD BE A CONFLICT. >> I CAN DO THAT.
>> THE -- YUL PROBABLY REMEMBERS. WE COULD HAVE ANYONE THAT WE TALK TO, WHO'S INTERESTED, ANY ATTORNEY WE TALK TO, MAY BE INTERESTED IN SERVING AS THE COUNSEL, YOU COULD HAVE, LIKE, MAYBE THE NEXT MEETING, HAVE THOSE PEOPLE TALK TO THEM BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, AND MAYBE ASK THEM IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO COME BY AND -- WE CAN ASK THEM, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT DOING THAT? WHAT'S YOUR INTEREST IN THAT? AND GET TO KNOW WHO WE ARE. AND WHAT WE EXPECT FROM THOSE -- THAT ATTORNEY.
SO, I WOULD RECOMMEND TO DO THAT.
>> TO THE CHAIR, IF I MAY, IF WE COULD PUT A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO RECOMMEND JOHN DAVID HORN TO OUR COMMISSION, PLEASE. TO VOTE.
>> AND NOT BRING HIM BACK FOR -- NOT BRING THEM BACK FOR QUESTIONING? YOU JUST WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MR. HORN?
TO MAKE THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND JOHN DAVID HORN TO THE COUNCIL. TO BRING HIM TO HERE.
>> OKAY. AND AGAIN, DO YOU ONLY WANT ONE PERSON TO COME, OR DO YOU WANT MULTIPLE?
>> DO YOU WANT MS. HODGES AS WELL? IS THIS MOTION JUST FOR JOHN DAVID HORN?
>> AND THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE?
>> CAN WE OPEN IT UP TO WHOEVER YOU HAVE IN MIND, JUST BRING EVERYBODY TO THE NEXT MEETING?
>> IS THERE A SECOND TO LIMIT THE CONSIDERATION OF ATTORNEYS TO JUST JOHN DAVID HORN? IS THERE A SECOND FOR MR. MITCHELL'S MOTION? ALL RIGHT.
>> IF THERE'S NO SECOND, THEN THE MOTION FAILS.
>> MADAM CHAIR, MAY I? MAY I MAKE A MOTION? THAT THE TWO THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED, AS WELL AS ANYBODY FROM COUNCIL, SUBMIT A RESUME SO THAT WE COULD SEE THOSE PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND WE CAN GET BACK -- POSSIBLY PUT IN INPUT THROUGH COURTNEY OR TERESA, AND LET THEM KNOW IF WE WOULD LIKE TO LIMIT HOW MANY -- IF THERE ENDS UP BEING TWO OR THREE, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, BUT OTHERWISE, I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE TWO THAT HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED TONIGHT, POSSIBLY MR. TAYLOR IF THEY REACH OUT, AND IF STAFF HAS SOMEBODY ELSE THAT THEY SUBMIT A RESUME TO US BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING. WE MAKE THE DECISION NEXT WEEK. NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING.
>> OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.
>> ALL RIGHT, SO, QUESTION FOR IF COMMISSION IS, IF IT'S THESE THREE OR TWO, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER -- LIKE IF MS. HODGES ISN'T ABLE TO OR MR. TAYLOR ISN'T, AT LEAST SINCE IT WOULD ONLY BE THREE AT THIS TIME, JUST HAVE THEM -- WE'LL GET YOU THE RESUMES, BUT THEN ALSO BRING THEM BACK AT THE MEETING FOR DISCUSSION? AT THAT TIME?
>> MY THOUGHT WAS IF IT'S ONLY THREE, YES.
IF IT'S EIGHT, THEN PROBABLY NOT.
SO, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYANY ADDITIONAL
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RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE OTHER THAN THESE THREE? AND IF YOU -- IF SOMEONE COMES UP BETWEEN NOWNOW -- COMES TO MIND, JUST SHOOT TERESA AND I AN EMAIL, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY REACH OUT TO THEM AS WELL.>> POINT OF CLARIFICATION. YOU MENTIONED THREE.
I'VE HEARD JOHN DAVID HORN AND HODGES.
WAS THERE A THIRD THAT I MISSED?
>> AND AGAIN, IF -- AGAIN, IF STAFF HAD SOMEBODY OR SOMEBODY HAD SOMEBODY ELSE, PUT THAT RESUME IN. THAT WAS PART OF THE MOTION.
>> SO, WE WILL WORK ON THAT AND GET THE
[4. Discussion of CRC Meeting Dates]
INFORMATION FOR YOU FOR THE NEXT AGENDA.SO, NOW, LET'S -- IF EVERYONE COULD PULL OUT YOUR CALENDARS.
TRYING TO -- TRYING TO WORK WORK÷÷ POTENTIAL DATES FOR YOUR NEXT MEETING AT THE END OF OCTOBER.
I'LL JUST THROW THESE DATES OUT JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE ONES THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FIND AND HOLD ON THE÷÷ AGENDA -- I MEAN, ON THE BOARDROOM.
SO, OCTOBER -- WELL, MONDAY, OCTOBER 20, AT 5:00. I'LL JUST THROW THEM ALL OUT, AND YOU GUYS JUST LOOK, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THEM. MONDAY, OCTOBER 20TH, AT 5:00.
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 22ND, AT 5:00.
MONDAY, OCTOBER 27TH, AT 5:00.
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 29TH, AT 5:00.
A WEDNESDAY? >> 20TH AND 22ND IS GOOD.
>> WEDNESDAYS DOESN'T WORK FOR ME.
I COACH BASEBALL FOR POLICE ATHLETIC
LEAGUE. >> I'LL BE OUT OF THE STATE.
HALLOWEEN. >> I DO HAVE THURSDAY.
>> I'LL BE OUT OF THE STATE ON THE 20TH.
>> I CAN'T DO THE 20TH. DIRECT MEETING.
>> HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THESE MEETINGS WILL USUALLY LAST? BECAUSE I WAS THINKING IF WE COULD DO ONE BEFORE THE SECOND MEETING -- DON'T DO THAT? OKAY.
>> THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. I KNOW WHERE SHE'S GOING.
>> I CAN'T DO THE LAST WEEK. AT ALL.
>> YOU CAN LOOK AT THE WEEK. I DON'T KNOW -- DO MONDAYS JUST NOT WORK?
>> I THINK WEHAVE A MEMBER WHO'S OUT OF --
>> SECOND AND THIRD. AND HE'S NOT HERE.
>> MADAM? MADAM CHAIR, SHOULD WE PULL THE DATES, JUST SAY HOW MANY PEOPLE ON THE 20TH, SEE HOW FAR OFF YOU
ARE. >> I MEAN OPEN TO POLLING.
HOWEVER, IN MY UNDERSTANDING, WE ALL HAVE TO BE HERE FOR THE NEXT MEETING OR JUST A QUORUM? OKAY.
>> REMEMBER THAT THEY ARE -- THEY ARE LIVE AND SO THEY'RE RECORDED, SO YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, LOOK BACK.
NOW, QUESTION ABOUT THE ALTERNATES.
WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE ALTERNATES IS THAT FOR YOU TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS OR AT LEAST STAY UP ON THE MEETINGS AS THE RECORDING, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO SORT OF -- IT'S THE WAY IT FLOWS, SO YOU HAVE TO BE PREPARED IF, FOR SOME REASON, SOMEONE FROM YOUR DISTRICT HAS TO STEP DOWN.
THEN, YOU HAVE TO BE READY TO IMMEDIATELY HIT THE ROAD RUNNING. BUT YEAH.
>> COURTNEY, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT FIRST WEEK IN NOVEMBER. IS THAT AN OPTION? OR NO?
>> WE HAVE THAT ONE MARKED OFF.
>> NOVEMBER 3RD IS THE ONLY ONE THAT IS AVAILABLE THAT WEEK.
>> I THINK, BIG PICTURE, WEDNESDAYS DON'T WORK.
IS THAT WHAT WE'VE HEARD? SO, WEDNESDAYS DON'T WORK. SO, WE WON'T -- SO, FOR TERESA AND I TRYING TO BLOCK OUT DATES, WE WON'T DO WEDNESDAYS.
>> I GAVE MY JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS TICKETS.
>> FOUR DIDN'T MAKE IT. TWO ALTERNATES
AND TWO REGULARS. >> I DO HAVE A REGULAR MEETING ON MONDAY. I CAN MISS IT, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING -- IF WE ALL DECIDE MONDAY, THEN I WILL JUST MISS THE MEETING.
>> SECOND AND FOURTH MONDAYS, I KNOW THREE OF US WILL BE OUT.
>> DO WE WANT TO POLL FOR THIS NEXT MEETING AND THEN AT
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THAT MEETING, WORK ON FINDING A GOOD DATE? OR DO WE WANT TO HAVE -->> WELL, DOES IT MATTER IF YOU DO IT AT A DIFFERENT TIME OF THE DAY? DOES THAT HELP WHOEVER HAS THE CONFLICTS? MONDAYS OR WEDNESDAYS IF YOU DO IT AT A DIFFERENT TIME?
>> IT DOES HELP ME ON A WEDNESDAY. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE ELSE.
>> YEAH. AS LONG AS IT'S DONE DURING THE MORNING ON WEDNESDAYS, I CAN.
>> IT IS. WEDNESDAY MORNINGS IS GOOD.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY'S TIME CONSTRAINTS ARE. TERESA AND I ARE HERE.
>> IF WE DID WEDNESDAYS DURING THE DAY, I COULD DO THAT. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF -- IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS A JOB THAT THEY CAN'T MAKE THAT WORK.
>> THIS IS ALWAYS THE FUN PART.
>> IT IS. WELL, AND IF YOU CAN -- I GUESS FOR OUR PURPOSE, IF YOU CAN AT LEAST, FOR THE FLOW, DECIDE ON A DAY THAT'S GOING TO WORK, THEN WE CAN START BLOCKING THEM OFF.
>> DO YOU TYPICALLY GO WITH THE THIRD MONDAY SO WE CAN BE CONSISTENT?
>> THE THIRD MONDAYS MIGHT BE --
>> EVERY THIRD MONDAY, BUT I'LL
JUST TAKE OFF. >> IS THAT THE BOARDROOMS?
>> YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT OCTOBER.
>> WE'VE BLOCKED THAT OUT. THAT'S THE THIRD.
BUT THAT MIGHT NOT BE -- OH, THE LAND CONSERVATION IS ON TUESDAYS.
SO, MONDAYS -- OKAY. SO, THE THIRD MONDAY.
>> SHOULD WE HAVE AMENDMENTS TO PURSUE.
>> SO, LET'S GET THE NEXT MEETING ON THE BOOK AND THEN GO FROM THERE.
>> LET'S GET THE NEXT MEETING ON THE BOOK.
>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING ON OCTOBER 20TH.
>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
OCTOBER 20TH, 5:00 P.M., OUR NEXT MEETING.
>> BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND ALL THAT, ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH THE THIRD MONDAY MOVING FORWARD? AND THE NEXT QUESTION IS, LET'S DISCUSS HOW OFTEN DO WE WISH TO MEET AS A COMMITTEE? EVERY MONTH?
>> THAT'S GOING TO BE DETERMINED -- OR DO WE WANT TO DISCUSS? I THINK THAT GETTING TO THAT NEXT MEETING, JUST GETTING TO THAT NEXT MEETING, FILLING OUT WHERE WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE AS A COMMITTEE, THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO DETERMINE, DO WE NEED TO MEET EVERY OTHER WEEK, ONCE A MONTH.
I'M JUST -- >> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? WE WANT TO WAIT?
>> THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS. A REQUIREMENT IS NONE IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE AND WHAT OUR CODE DICTATES.
>> HISTORICALLY SPEAKING, AND I'LL BRING IT TO YOU GENTLEMEN, WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN? HOW WE'VE RAN THIS MEETING IN THE PAST?
>> SO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS DICTATED BY THE VOLUME OF THE WORKLOAD.
AND I WILL TELL YOU, ONCE WE STARTED GETTING INTO A DISCUSSION AND FLOWING WITH IT, IT WENT A LOT QUICKER THAN YOU REALIZE.
AND I BELIEVE WE WERE MEETING ONCE A MONTH.
>> WE WERE MEETING ONCE A MONTH IN ADDITION, BUT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. WE -- THE CHAIR AT THE TIME, WENT AROUND AND SAID, WHAT THREE ISSUES WOULD YOU WANT TO SEE BROUGHT UP? WHAT THREE ISSUES? AND IF THE MAJORITY -- ONE ISSUE WAS MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WANTED THAT ONE ISSUE, THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS WE'D TALK ABOUT.
AND THE OTHER TWO MIGHT MIGHT NOT BE A BIG INTEREST FOR EVERYBODY. SO, IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY ISSUES YOU GOT COMING UP. YOU KNOW, IF YOU -- THEN DICTATE ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE COME BEFORE YOU TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHATEVER THAT ISSUE MIGHT BE. PRO OR CON.
STUFF LIKE THAT. SO, WE WERE MEETING INITIALLY
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AT, LIKE, ONCE A MONTH, AND THEN I THINK WE MOVED TO, LIKE, TWICE A MONTH.BECAUSE YOU GOT TO HAVE ALL THIS READY BY AUGUST FOR THE BALLOT. SO, YOU'RE GOING -- BETWEEN OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR AND AUGUST '26, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THIS RECOMMENDATION MADE AND GOT THROUGH THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ON TO THE SUPERVISORS SO THEY CAN GET IT ON THE BALLOT. IT'LL MOVE PRETTY QUICK.
>> ACTUALLY, BY MAY, SO THE AUGUST MEETING, WE CAN PUSH IT THROUGH. SO, KEEP THAT IN MIND. YOU CAN ALWAYS RAMP IT UP TOWARD THE
END IF WE SEE. >> GREEN BUTTON.
SORRY. WE CAN ALWAYS PUSH IT UP TO MORE AS WE GET INTO THE DETAILS OF WHATEVER COMES UP OF OUR DISCUSSION AND WORKLOAD. AGAIN, TOO, THE SOONER WE GET IT DONE, THE QUICKER -- I DON'T MEAN WE NEED TO RUSH THROUGH IT, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
IF WE GOT TO GET SOMETHING TACKLED, LET'S GO AHEADAHEAD GET
IT TACKLED. >> MAY I MAKE A DISCUSSION WITH THIS? THANK YOU, RHONDA. I'VE SAT ON A COUPLE BOARDS, AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH SORT OF THE CHARTER STUFF THAT WE HAVE HAD TO GO THROUGH AND MAKE CHANGES ON. THERE ARE FOUR ARTICLES IN THIS CHARTER. WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE THAN EIGHT MONTHS, SO IF WE TAKE EACH ARTICLE AND DIVIDE IT INTO HALF, MAYBE TRY TO CONQUER THE FIRST PART OF IT IN ONE MONTH, THE SECOND PART IN ANOTHER MONTH.
THERE IS AN ARTICLE THAT HAS MULTIPLE ITEMS THAT COULD TAKE THREE MONTHS.
SO, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WAY YOU COULD DO THIS WHEN, IF WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHICH AREA OF CONCERN THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT, AND IT'LL BE EASIER AS WELL WHEN SCOTTY SAID IF WE HAVE ANY ISSUES, I THINK IF WE SAID, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON 2. 1 THROUGH 2.6, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE FOCUS ON, AND WE CAN BRING UP THOSE ISSUES AT THAT TIME.
>> GOOD IDEA. >> I'D LIKE TO SEE AT LEAST A FIXED DATE PER MONTH. I MEAN, I CURRENTLY SIT ON SIX DIFFERENT BOARDS, EVEN TODAY.
SO, NOT HAVING A FIXED DATE MAKES IT EVEN MORE DIFFICULT TO SAY IT DOES OR DOESN'T.
IF YOU HAVE TO DO SUBCOMMITTEES, SUBCOMMITTEES DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO MEET ON THE SAME DATE. SO, IF YOU NEED TO BREAK DOWN IN SUGGESTION, YOU CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE, YOU WORK THE SUBCOMMITTEE, AND THEN MOVE IT ON TO THE BIGGER GROUP, WHICH IS GOING TO MEET CONSISTENTLY EVERY MONTH ANYWAY.
SO, I'D LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF REGIMENT, IF YOU WILL, IN OUR SCHEDULE.
WE AT LEAST MEET EVERY THIRD MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH REGARDLESS OF THE ROUTINE.
IF YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING ELSE, BREAK IT OUT, MEET TWO, THREE TIMES A MONTH IF YOU THINK THAT'S . BUT THE WHOLE GROUP MEETS ON THE THIRD MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH.
>> AND JUST SO -- JUST -- THAT WOULD BE NOVEMBER 17TH.
>> SECOND. OH, SORRY. I LIKE IT.
>> IF WE HAVE TO ADJUST, WE CAN ADJUST, BUT TO YOUR POINT, THAT IS THE THING.
>> AND THAT'LL GET YOU THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR.
WHAT DID SOMEONE SAY ABOUT DECEMBER?
>> WE'RE WORKING -- WE HAVE A MOTION FOR -- TO MEET CONSISTENTLY ON THE THIRD MONDAY AT 5:00. THROUGH DECEMBER.
AND I ALSO HEARD A SECOND. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE CURRENT MOTION ON THE FLOOR, SAY AYE.
>> WE'VE GOT TO DRAFT AMENDMENTS AND HAVE THEM READY BY THE FIRST TIME IN MAY, SO IT MAY BE -- I WOULD SUGGEST THAT MAYBE NOT STARTING WITH THE NOVEMBER MEETING BUT CERTAINLY WITH THE DECEMBER MEETING, THAT ONCE -- ONE PER MONTH OR ONE PER MEETING, AND AGAIN, IT WAS A GREAT IDEA TO GET IT OUT THERE, SO THE PUBLIC WILL KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DISCUSS. I WOULD SAY, STARTING IN NOVEMBER, NO LATER. STARTING NO LATER THAN NOVEMBER.
WE TAKE ONE ARTICLE PER MEETING.
>> WHAT ARE THE GUIDELINES FOR AGENDA PUBLICATION? WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME FOR THAT?
>> WE JUST DO IT THE WEEK BEFORE.
>> AND SO, WE'LL GET WITH COURTNEY TO -- OBVIOUSLY, YOU'LL HAVE THE RETENTION OF COUNSEL ON THERE. AND THEN IT WOULD REALLY BE UP TO YOU GUYS IF YOU WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND DISCUSS ARTICLE
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I OR PICK SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS.>> I THINK -- THIS IS JUST CHITCHATTING. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO THE CHARTER.
BUT I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA, AND IT DID HELP WITH THE FLOW PREVIOUSLY, AND YUL AND SCOTTY CAN BRING IT BACK TO THE CONVERSATION. I'VE BEEN IN THE AUDIENCE MANY TIMES FOR THESE, AND I THINK IT REALLY DOES HELP IF YOU DO BRING BACK THREE ITEMS THAT YOU -- THAT ARE NEAR AND DEAR TO YOU. IT MAY BE NEAR AND DEAR TO THE OTHER ONES AND THOSE -- WE CAN TACKLE THOSE, AND I THINK WE CAN DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT AFTER THOSE ONES THAT WE KNOW THAT -- IF A GENERAL CONSENSUS IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO SEE FOR CLAY COUNTY, I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON THOSE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU GUYS? I GUESS THAT'S A MOTION. DO WE NEED TO MOTION THAT?
>> I THINK THAT'S JUST A CONSENSUS.
SO, WE CAN ADD TO THE AGENDA, JUST COMMISSIONER -- WE'LL COME UP WITH THE WORD. BUT BASICALLY, JUST ALL OF YOU BRING YOUR THREE TOP IDEAS OR --
>> AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY, THAT'S OKAY TOO.
>> ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO, NOW, ON THE AGENDA, WHAT WE'LL DO IS HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. IF WE DO ANYBODY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. AND THEN, WE WILL ALSO HAVE CRC MEMBER COMMENTS IF YOU -- WE CAN JUST -- YOU'LL GO AROUND AND IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC COMMENTS OR SINCE YOU AREN'T ABLE TO DISCUSS TOPICS OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING, THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY DISCUSS TOPICS OR BRING UP IDEAS.
>> I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST DOING PUBLIC COMMENTS TWICE AND CRC AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
>> WHEN YOU SAY CRC AT THE END -- OKAY.
PRESENTING? >> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION.
IT'S DISCUSSION. >> JUST A DISCUSSION.
>> IT'S A CONSENSUS. WOULD EVERYBODY LIKE TO OFFER TWO PUBLIC COMMENTS, ONE AT THE BEGINNING AND ONE AT THE END?
>> ANYTHING ELSE PROCEDURALLY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CHANGE? OR WORK THROUGH? ALL RIGHT, SO, I'LL STEP ASIDE AND SEE.
YOU CAN JUST FINISH THE AGENDA WITH PUBLIC COMMENT AND CRC.
[PUBLIC COMMENT]
>> WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
IS THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC? IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
>> RICHARD, 1985 TEMECULA TRAIL. I JUST WANT TO WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK.
I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION TWICE BEFORE.
THE FIRST ONE WAS A SCREAMING SUCCESS, BECAUSE WE CAME UP WITH NO AMENDMENTS THAT ANYBODY HAD TO VOTE ON. THE SECOND ONE WAS AN UNMITIGATED DISASTER. THAT'S WHERE THE FOOLISHNESS OF RAISING COMMISSIONER SALARIES AND EXTENDING TERM LIMITS AND DOING AWAY WITH TERM LIMITS FOR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS -- IT JUST SANK.
I MEAN, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE THINGS GOT SHOT DOWN. AND TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE, THOSE ARE THE TWO I WAS ON. THE ONE THAT CAME AFTER ME, THEY DID THE EXACT SAME THING. NOTHING NEW.
NOTHING ADDRESSING THE PROBLEMS IN CLAY COUNTY. NOTHING ADDRESSING THE ISSUES PEOPLE CARED ABOUT. PUT THE SAME THREE AMENDMENTS ON, AND THEY WERE ALL SHOT DOWN AGAIN.
OKAY? SO, LET'S NOT GO THERE. THE QUESTION WAS RAISED, CAN WE DO AWAY WITH THE CHARTER? WHY WOULD YOU? THE CHARTER IS CLAY COUNTY'S OWN LITTLE U.S. CONSTITUTION. IT PROTECTS US, AND IT ENSHRINES THE FACT THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH OUR ISSUES MUCH BETTER THAN WHATEVER NITWITTERY COMES OUT OF TALLAHASSEE. YOU KNOW IT. I KNOW IT.
THEY JUT DON'T PRINT IT ENOUGH IN THE NEWSPAPER.
SO, WE'RE NOT GETTING RID OF THE CHARTER.
THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE NOW ARE ALL CENTERED ON THE INVASIVE SPECIES KNOWN AS DEVELOPERS.
THEY COME IN HERE, AND GOING YEARS, THOSE COMMISSIONS WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR PASSING OUT THE ABILITY FOR DEVELOPERS TO PUT IN HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OF HOUSES ON TWO- LANE ROADS. ONLY AN IDIOT WOULD WANT TO
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PUT THAT ON TWO- LANE ROAD. BUT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT.AND IT WAS ALLOWED. IT WAS ENCOURAGED.
AND THEN, WHEN THE PEOPLE SAID, ENOUGH, BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC IS WAY OUT OF CONTROL, TRAFFIC JAMS EVERYWHERE, THE SHERIFF, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, ARE UNDER MORE PRESSURE THAN EVER, AND IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE. BECAUSE THEY KEEP CLAIMING THAT ALL OF THESE FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS GOING IN WERE ALREADY APPROVED. THERE'S ANOTHER GUY NAMED DAN, WHO WANTS TO DEVELOP THE TOXIC AREA AROUND WHAT WAS THE SOLITE PLANT.
THERE WERE A LOT OF TOXINS ILLEGAL BURIED.
>> SO, I THINK WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS GET AN AMENDMENT THAT WILL LIMIT DEVELOPMENT TO A REASONABLE AMOUNT.
I MEAN, RIGHT NOW, WE USED TO HAVE, I THINK, A REQUIREMENT OF ONE HOUSE ON ONE ACRE OF LAND.
THEN, THAT CHANGED TO A HALF ACRE OF LAND.
THEN, IT WENT TO A THIRD OF AN ACRE. THEN A QUARTER OF AN ACRE.
>> THINGS WERE GETTING MORE AND MORE CROWDED.
>> I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME COMING IN. I THINK THAT WAS THREE MINUTES.
MINUTES, SIR. >> OH, YEAH, IT WAS.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE --
>> WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS INVOLVING OUR DEVELOPMENT AND CONTROL THEREOF.
>> YEAH. >> WITHIN CLAY COUNTY.
THE OTHER TWO THINGS WAS I'D LIKE TO SEE RECYCLING BROUGHT BACK IN. THERE'S MORE COUNTIES IN FLORIDA THAT HAVE RECYCLING WITHOUT PROBLEMS THAN WHAT WE'RE TOLD THAT WE HAVE.
THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT.
AND ALSO, A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF ACREAGE FOR A HOUSE. WE WENT FROM ONE ACHOR TO POSTAGE STAMP AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
THIS -- >> SO, ANYWAY, IF YOU WOULD AT LEAST BRING IT UP AND TALK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE NOW 38 YEARS, WHICH IS MORE THAN HALF MY LIFE, SO I'VE GOT REAL ACCUSTOMED TO THE
PLACE. >> UNDERSTANDABLE, SIR.
THIS IS -- THIS PROCESS IS JUST BEGINNING, THOUGH, SO WE WELCOME YOU COMMENTS. PLEASE COME BACK. OKAY? AND FOLLOW US ALONG AS WE'RE ABLE TO OPENLY DISCUSS ALL OF THESE ISSUES THAT CONCERN CLAY COUNTY.
>> ALL RIGHTY, SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I APPRECIATE IT. WE APPRECIATE IT.
>> AND AGAIN, GOOD LUCK. YOU'R GOING TO NEED IT.
>> THESE CAN GET CONTENTIOUS WHEN PEOPLE FEEL VERY, VERY STRONGLY ABOUT SOMETHING.
BUT DON'T LET THAT GET IN THE WAY.
>> UNDERSTOOD. WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.
ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT? HEARING AND SEEING NONE, I WILL
[CRC MEMBER COMMENTS]
GO AHEAD AND CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. ANY COMMITTEE MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS? IT'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.>> JUST A REAL QUICK, I'M A NUMBERSGEEK GIRL, AND JUST TO KIND OF ADD INTO WHAT COURTNEY SAID, THE IMPORTANCE OF A CHARTER.
THE CHARTERS THAT ARE THERE, THERE'S 21 COUNTIES THAT HAVE CHARTERS. THEY MAKE IT FOR 80% OF THE 22 MILLION RESIDENTS OF FLORIDA HAS. SO, THERE'S A LOT OF -- I DON'T KNOW THAT POWER IS THE RIGHT WORD, BUT THIS IS DRIVEN BY CITIZENS AND THIS IS A CITIZENS INITIATIVE.
SO, THAT'S THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS COMMITTEE.
AND IT'S JUST REITERATING WHAT COURTNEY KIND OF SAID EARLIER ON. SO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FOCUS ON CLAY COUNTY. WHERE DO WE SEE US GOING? HOW CAN WE BEST EQUIP CLAY COUNTY FROM A CITIZENS INITIATIVE TO MOVE FORWARD AS WE'RE COMING UP WITH OUR TO-DO LIST, SO TO SPEAK?
>> CAN I ASK, JUST FOR PRINCIPLE, WHAT ARE THE RESTRICTIONS OF THE CHARTER? I MEAN, I HEAR YOU. BUT FOR MANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE -- I HAVE DEALT WITH SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE AND GONE THROUGH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COUNTY DESIRES AND STATE LAW. SO, WHAT ARE THE RESTRICTIONS OF THE CHARTER? AND HOW, THEN, DOES THAT CONFLICT, POTENTIALLY, WITH STATE LAW AND RESTRICTIONS? I MEAN, I COME FROM CALIFORNIA. AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE -- I FLED. I FLED THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA TO COME BACK TO AMERICA.
BUT ANYWAY -- BUT THE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS WITHIN
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THE STATE FALL ON THE DEVELOPER. NOT ON THE COUNTY.BUT HERE, IN FLORIDA, IT FALLS ON THE COUNTY. I MEAN -- AND I JUST HAVE GONE THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS OF, IF A DEVELOPER BUILDS A PARTICULAR BUILDING, HE HAS TO MAKE THE CHANGES TO THE -- THROUGH THE INFRASTRUCTURE BEFORE HE CAN BEGIN CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S NOT TRUE HERE.
IN THE SAME FASHION. THEY DO NOT CONTRIBUTE TO SCHOOL GROWTH. THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO BUILD THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE, LIGHTS AND TRAFFIC WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, I'M GOING TO PUT A 20- FOOT LANE WHERE I'M GOING TO DIVERT TRAFFIC. IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT.
SO, I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE CHARTER RESTRICTIONS ARE AND HOW YOU CAN OPEN UP -- HOW DO WE GET THERE?
>> CAN I -- CAN I DOVETAIL ON THAT QUESTION? BECAUSE I'M WONDERING IF WE NEED TO GET SOME GUIDANCE ABOUT WHAT THE CHARTER DOES AND WHAT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DO WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE'VE GOT A LIST OF THINGS IN HERE, NONE OF WHICH DISCUSS DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS HOW, YOU KNOW -- AND SO, WE HAVE ELECTED COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, AND WE HAVE STAFF AND PUBLIC HEARINGS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH IS SEPARATE THAN THE GOVERNANCE OF HOW WE GOVERN THE COUNTY. AND WE CAN CHASE RABBITS FOR A WHILE. THAT BEING A BIG RABBIT.
WHICH MAY VERY WELL NOT COME UNDER THE PURVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE BEING TASKED TO DO.
>> RIGHT. AND ONCE YOU RETAIN YOUR COUNSEL, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GET ADVICE FROM THAT COUNSEL ON THOSE SPECIFIC ITEMS. YOU ALSO, I'M SURE, EVERYONE'S VERY AWARE THAT RIGHT NOW THERE IS SENATE BILL 180? I KEEP FORGETTING.
180 OR 150. BUT IT RIGHT NOW RESTRICTS US FROM DOING ANYTHING. I MEAN, ANYTHING FOR DEVELOPMENT- RELATED THAT IS STRICTER THAN WHAT OUR CODE ALREADY PROVIDES. SO, I MEAN, THAT'S A VERY LARGE HURDLE AT THIS POINT IF YOU WANT TO HAVE ANY DEVELOPMENT RESTRICTIONS.
BUT THAT'S SEPARATE AND APART FROM YOUR ACTUAL CHARTER.
SO, I THINK WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING FOR LEGAL OPINIONS AS TO THE SCOPE AND WHAT YOU CAN -- YOU AS YOUR COMMISSION CAN DO, YOU SHOULD WAIT UNTIL YOU HAVE YOUR OWN COUNSEL, AND THEY CAN GUIDE YOU.
>> AND DOESN'T IT -- THAT, TO ME, TOO, FALLS ON THE TOPIC OR THE ASK THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. AND IF I'M WRONG, YOU'LL PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
SO, I FEEL LIKE DEPENDING ON ON IT IS IS GOING TO DICTATE YOUR OPENNESS OR CLOSURE VIA STATE FLORIDA STATUTE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
>> YEAH, AND I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK THROUGH THE HISTORY, NONE OF THE CODE IS INCLUDED IN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
>> SO, THERE'S A HUGE RESTRICTION -- THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHARTER RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR BOARD AND COMMISSIONERS THAN INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ENFORCING THE CODE, AND THAT'S NOT IN THIS.
>> SO, WE HAVE OUR OWN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND WE ALSO HAVE OUR OWN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT GOVERNS LAND DEVELOPMENT IN CONNECTION WITH THAT. WE USUALLY LOOK AT YOUR CHARTER IS BASICALLY YOUR FRAMEWORK. IT'S LIKE IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE CORPORATION, IT'S YOUR ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION, YOUR BYLAWS. IT'S THE BIG PICTURE. BUT THE ACTUAL LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS ARE, FOR THE COUNTY, IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND OUR ZONING
THEY'RE NOT IN THE CHARTER. SO, IS THERE -- IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR LANGUAGE THAT WOULD FORCE THE COMMISSIONERS TO THEN --
>> HOW ABOUT FEES AND FINES AND STUFF LIKE THAT? ARE WE ALLOWED TO, LIKE, CHANGE, LIKE, FEES AND FINES?
>> I WILL LEAVE THAT FOR YOUR COUNSEL. SO, OUR BOARD HAS THEIRTHEIR -- A RESOLUTION THAT SETS FORTH ALL THE FEES FOR THE COUNTY. THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS.
THE COUNTY CAN ONLY CHARGE A FEE THAT'S REALLY TO COVER THE COSTS THAT IT COVERS.
WE CAN'T JUST COVER TO MAKE MONEY.
BUT I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION YOU WOULD NEED TO ASK YOUR COUNSEL.
>> WE LIVE IN A TIME WHERE MONEY IS IMPORTANT TO EVERYBODY, AND SOMEONE MADE A COMMENT TO ME THAT THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T PASS COMMISSIONS.
THEY NEVER REALLY HAD ANYBODY COME BEFORE THIS
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COMMISSION, AND GIVE A SUMMARY TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE ITEMS LIKE THE BUDGET. IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE SOMEONE COME AND EXPLAIN THE CLAY COUNTY BUDGET? WITH A BREAKDOWN SO WE REALLY KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS AND WHERE IT COMES FROM? I HEARD A STATISTIC TODAY THAT KIND OF SHOCKED ME.THAT THE CLAY COUNTY BUDGET IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 700- PLUS MILLION. AND I KNOW THAT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES. AND THAT CAN SCARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN YOU START THINKING ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY. AND I WAS TOLD THAT OUT OF THAT $779 MILLION BUDGET, ONLY 100-SOMETHING MILLION IS PROPERTY TAXES.
WHICH KIND OF STUNS ME. I DON'T KNOW IF IT SURPRISES YOU, BUT I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A HIGHER NUMBER.
THAT MAKE UP THE CLAY COUNTY BUDGET.
SO, MY FIRST QUESTION WAS, WHERE'S THE OTHER MONEY COMING FROM? AND I JUST -- I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR, OUT OF CLAY COUNTY'S BUDGET, WHERE THAT MONEY IS AND WHERE IT COMES FROM AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD PRESENT TO THE CLAY COUNTY VOTERS TO MAYBE CHANGE, MAKE BETTER OR DO SOMETHING THAT'S RELATED TO THE MONEY IN CLAY COUNTY.
>> YOU CAN CERTAINLY, AS PART OF A PRESENTATION ON YOUR AGENDA, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, YOU CAN ASK FOR PRESENTATIONS ON DIFFERENT TOPICS. THAT'S UP TO YOU. WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN CHANGE AS PART OF THE CHARTER, WE WOULD LEAVE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH YOUR COUNSEL.
>> I'D LOVE THAT COUNSEL. ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL HOLD THOSE QUESTIONS FOR WHEN WE DO WITH RETAIN COUNSEL, POTENTIALLY AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
BUT JUST STICK THAT IN A FILE, AND WE'LL LOOK AT IT WHEN WE MEET AGAIN. ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? SUSAN?
>> COURTNEY, COULD YOU VERIFY THAT SENATE BILL THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT -- BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO GO AND INVESTIGATE THAT.
>> I THINK IT'S SENATE BILL 180.
>> ALL RIGHT, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS? ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADDRESS BEFORE -- I DON'T WANT TO CONVENE TOO EARLY.
>> BEFORE WE ADJOURN, COMMISSIONER RENNINGER OR COUNTY MANAGER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY OR COMMENT?
>> LET ME JUST SAY -- REITERATE THAT THE CHARTER IS A HIGH- LEVEL ORGANIZATIONAL DOCUMENT.
I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION FOR A BUDGET IS WELL POSITIONED TO GET AN OVERALL UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE COUNTY RUNS. BUT WE ARE HAMSTRUNG ALL THE TIME BUT FEDERAL, STATE REGULATIONS THAT LIMIT US INTO WHAT WE CAN DO.
AND SENATE BILL 180 IS A GREAT EXAMPLE THAT -- AND IT'S CALLED HOME RULE. WE ARGUE THAT WITH OUR LEGISLATORS ALL THE TIME IN TALLAHASSEE. STAY IN YOUR LANE.
LET US, YOU KNOW -- THE BEST GOVERNMENT IS THE GOVERNMENT CLOSEST TO THE PEOPLE.
IT'S -- THIS IS WHAT WE DO FOR A LIVING EVERY DAY.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. COUNTY MANAGER?
>> MADAM CHAIR AND CRC MEMBERS, I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK ON THIS.
THE -- THERE IS A LOT TO BE HAD IN THIS.
TO UNDERSTAND THE GOVERNMENT WITHIN JUST AN HOUR THAT YOU ALL HAVE MET. HIGHLY, HIGHLY, HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU TAKE THE BOOKLET YOU RECEIVED THAT CONTAINS OUR CHARTER, FOR OUR COUNTY, AND READ IT. AND READ IT AT LEAST THREE TIMES. OKAY? AND TO UNDERSTAND, WELL, HERE, I GOT SCOTTY SHAKING HIS HEAD.
HE WAS ON THE LAST ONE. TO UNDERSTAND THOSE AREAS, AND I BELIEVE -- THIS GENTLEMAN HERE, HE MENTIONED ABOUT HOW THERE'S FOUR SECTIONS, RIGHT? IN THAT. TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE SECTIONS.
AND JUST LIKE ANYTHING, HOW DO YOU EAT AN ELEPHANT? ONE BITE AT A TIME. TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE AREASAREAS ADDRESS THAT YOU CAN HAVE MAJOR EFFECT, YOU KNOW, 20, 30 YEARS FROM NOW.
THERE WAS A MENTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DOING AWAY WITH THE CHARTER AND THAT.
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I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE PROS AND CONS, AND I THINK SCOTTY MENTIONED THIS ONE.OF DOING THAT. AND WE CAN BRIEF YOU OR YOUR COUNSEL CAN OR WE CAN GET EXPERTS IN TO BRIEF YOU ALL ON THAT TO UNDERSTAND THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS TIED WITH THAT. I'LL MENTION ONE.
AND IT'S JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG.
BUT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND MOVING FORWARD.
THE BASIS AND THE CONSTRUCT THAT WAS ALSO MENTIONED BY THESE TWO GENTLEMEN, WHICH WAS PERFECT, AND PREVIOUS MEMBERS, IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
WE'RE ONE OF 67, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET -- WE WILL COME BACK AT THE NEXT ONE.
I ALREADY AM GOING TO TEE IT UP, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE IT'S ON THE AGENDA, AND WE'LL BRIEF YOU ALL ABOUT THE BUDGET AND THE DETAILS OF IT.
YES, SIR, THERE'S MANY REVENUE STREAMS. THERE ARE SALES TAXES, SALES SURTAXES, THERE'S INTERGOVERNMENTAL TRANSFERS. THERE'S A LOT.
AND THAT $171 MILLION OF AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAX IS JUST A CHUNK OF THE OVERALL PORTION. A LOT OF THEM, TOO, ARE REQUIRED STATUTES OF MONIES THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP IN RESERVES, SO I'LL ALSO MENTION THAT OUT TO YOU.
IT GETS PRETTY COMPLICATED WITH OVER 100 DIFFERENT FUNDS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND REVENUE STREAMS THAT COME IN. BUT THAT BEING SAID, WE'LL DO A NICE BRIEF FOR YOU ALL, AND WE'VE TEED THIS UP. WE'VE HAD MANY MEETINGS IN ORDER TO PREP FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR UPUP TO THIS POINT TO HAVE SOME NICE BUDGET MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE HAD PUBLICLY, AND THAT -- AND WE'LL DUST THOSE OFF AND GET THEM ALL UP TO DATE AND MAKE SURE. THEY'RE BASICALLY RELATIVE AS WE SPEAK NOW. AS WE WENT FORWARD.
BUT AGAIN, LOOKING AT THIS OVERARCHING UMBRELLA OF HOW WE CONTROL OURSELVES, MR. CLINTON MENTIONED IT EARLY. THIS IS CLAY COUNTY.
THIS IS HOW WE WANT TO RUN OUR GOVERNMENT MOVING FORWARD.
FIVE COMMISSIONERS. THERE'S THREE APPOINTED. I'M ONE OF THE THREE APPOINTED.
ALONG WITH COURTNEY AND THE COMMISSION AUDITOR.
THOSE ARE THE THREE APPOINTED. EVERYBODY ELSE WHO'S HIRED OR FIRED COMES THROUGH MY OFFICE AND COURTNEY'S OFFICE, SO QUICK OVERARCHING KIND OF WHAT'S ON THERE. WHAT ALSO HAS NOT BEEN MENTIONED HERE IS OUR WEBSITE.
OUR WEBSITE IS VERY, VERY VALUABLE.
YOU CAN LOOK AT EVERYTHING. THE BUDGET'S ALREADY POSTED ON THERE, SIR.
IT'S THERE. A LOT OF THESE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT YOU WANT TO DELVE INTO ARE ALSO THERE.
IT'S AN EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT WEBSITE THAT HAS LOTS OF RESOURCES IN IT FOR YOU ALL.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YEAH, LET ME KNOW. YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF -- YOU MENTIONED TERESA'S AND COURTNEY'S EMAIL. YOU CAN SENLD SEND ME AN EMAIL.
IF YOU WANTED TO MEET ONE-ON-ONE, I TOO CAN MEET WITH YOU ONE-ON-ONE. THERE'S NO SUNSHINE INVOLVED WITH THAT. I CAN SAY, YEAH, I'LL ARRANGE A MEETING AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT SOME SPECIFICS AND DO A DEEP DIVE IN A PARTICULAR THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO DOWN. BUT AGAIN, I THINK THIS HAS BEEN A VERY GOOD KICKOFF, IN MY OPINION, AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT AHEAD, AND I THINK IT'S REALLY GREAT THAT YOU'VE ORGANIZED THE DATES, FENCED THAT OFF. GETTING COUNSEL UP FRONT RIGHT AWAY IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. AND WE JUST STAND BY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT EACH ONE OF YOU UNDERSTANDS HOW THE GOVERNMENT OPERATES HERE IN CLAY COUNTY, HOW IT'S CONNECTED BOTH AT THE STATE LEVEL, THE TALLAHASSEE, AND THEN UP TO D.C. AND IT GETS PRETTY COMPLICATED.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME INITIALLY? YES, MA'AM?
>> I APOLOGIZE. I DID NOT GET YOUR NAME.
>> HOW ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE? OH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE --
>> ONE MORE QUICK -- AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KIND OF GOT ME. I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR JOINING FIVE COMMANDS, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID, AND MAYBE WE CAN ALL DO, SIT DOWN WITH OUR COMMISSIONERS AND ASK THEM IF THEY HAD TO DO THIS, WHAT MAKES THEIR JOB THE MOST DIFFICULT? AND WHAT COULD BE CHANGED IN ORDER FOR IT TO GO? AND I THINK THAT WE'D BE BETTER OFF COMING BACK TO THE TABLE, RECOGNIZING WHAT WE MIGHT LOOK AT FIRST BEFORE WE START LOOKING AT ALL THE OTHER STUFF. WHAT MAKES THE GOVERNMENT DIFFICULT TO OPERATE TODAY?
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HOW DO WE FIX IT? AND ONCE THAT HAPPENS, THEN WE CAN GO ON TO THE OTHER STUFF.BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN THIS CHARTER THAT MAKES GOVERNMENT DIFFICULT FOR THEM, TODAY, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING. BECAUSE I THINK THAT ALL OF US BELIEVE THAT OUR COMMISSIONERS ARE OUT THERE WORKING HARD FOR FOR US, BUT AS THE COMMISSIONER JUST SAID, YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE WAY THE STATE DOES BUSINESS.
YOU'RE REGULATED BY THINGS THAT YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER.
SO, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE CAN CONTROL? WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE CAN -- WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE CAN MODIFY IN THIS CHARTER THAT MAKE THEIR JOB EASIER? BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE ALL OUT THERE FIGHTING FOR US. WE JUST GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THERE FROM POINT A TO POINT B.
>> EXCELLENT POINTS, THANK OU SO MUCH.
I THINK THAT'S -- WHAT WE ALL ENDEAVOR TO DO HERE IS NOT COMPLICATE THE JOBS OF OUR COMMISSIONERS, FOR SURE.
THEY DO HAVE A LOT OF WEIGHT ON THEIR SHOULDERS.
WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO ADD TO IT IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE CAN TAKE SOMETHING FROM THAT WEIGHT, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO.
AND SO, ANY WAY WE CAN DO THAT, LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT GOAL IN MIND.
ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO
ADJOURN. >> MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.