Aug 12, 2025 BCC Agenda

[CALL TO ORDER]

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>> PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS . >> GRACIOUS LORD, THANK YOU FOR TODAY . THANK YOU LORD FOR EVERY BLESSING WE GET TO ENJOY .

LORD, WE COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT JUST ASKING FOR YOUR MERCY, YOUR GRACE . LORD, WE ARE ASKING YOU FOR HELP . LORD, ONLY YOU CAN GIVE US HELP. IF WE DON'T GET IT FROM YOU, WE ARE NOT GETTING IT FROM ANYWHERE, LORD. WE NEED YOUR DIRECTION AND YOUR GUIDANCE. FOR THE BUSINESS OF CLAY COUNTY, I PRAY THAT WE DO IT WELL WITH THE DECISIONS THEY MAKE. THANK YOU FOR EVERY COUNTERPART WITHIN CLAY COUNTY THAT MAKES THIS PLACE MORE BEAUTIFUL TO LIVE. WE ARE ASKING YOUR BLESSING ON EACH OF US, LORD IN THE NAME OF JESUS, I PRAY, AMEN.

>> OKAY. OUR VETERAN LED PLEDGE THIS AFTERNOON IS FROM CHIEF PETTY OFFICER LUKE WILHELM. A 21 YEAR VETERAN OF THE UNITED STATES NAVY, CHIEF WILHELM ENLISTED SHORTLY AFTER SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2001 , AFTER THE ATTACKS ON THAT FATEFUL DAY. HE RETIRED IN DECEMBER OF 2022. DURING HIS DISTINGUISHED CAREER AS A MISSILE TECHNICIAN, HE SERVED AT SEVERAL KEY LOCATIONS INCLUDING THE NAVAL ORDNANCE TEST UNIT AT CAPE CANAVERAL, FLORIDA AND BOTH THE TRIDENT FACILITY AND TRIDENT TRAINING FACILITY IN KINGS BAY, GEORGIA. HE ALSO SERVED FOR THREE OHIO CLASS BALLISTIC MISSILE SUBMARINES, THE USS LOUISIANA, THE USS FLORIDA AND THE USS MARYLAND. CHIEF WILHELM IS A HIGHLY DECORATED VETERAN AWARDED THE GLOBAL WAR WAR ON TERROR ACCIDENT SHERRY MEDAL.

MAYBE AND MARINE CORPS ACCOMMODATION MEDAL, SIX NAVY MARINE CORPS METALS, NATO METAL TWO SEE THE SERVICE DEPLOYMENT MODELS AND NATIONAL DEFENSE SERVICE MEDAL AMONG OTHERS. HIS FAVORITE SERVICE MEMORY WAS BEING PART OF THE NATO MISSION OPERATION ODYSSEY DON AND DURING HIS SERVICE, HE BECAME AMAZED AT WHAT A GROUP OF PEOPLE CAN ACCOMPLISH WHEN THEY WORK TOGETHER. NOW A RESIDENT OF GREEN COVE SPRINGS, CHIEF WILHELM WORKS AS A DEFENSE CONTRACTOR AND REMAINS VERY ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN HIS COMMUNITY AND AS A FRIEND TO ALL OF US. WE EXTEND OUR GREAT APPRECIATION FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY AND YOUR CONTINUED SERVICE AND OUR COMMUNITY . IF YOU CAN LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE AND YOU CAN SHARE A FEW WORDS.

>> THANK YOU. PLEASE JOIN ME IN SAYING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT. I REALLYAPPRECIATE IT . IT IS WONDERFUL TO BE PART OF HERE, LOCAL GOVERNMENT. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TAKE A CHANCE TO SIMPLY SAY, WHEN YOU RETIRE FROM THE MILITARY , A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THIS BUT THEY GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY. THEY WILL PAY FOR YOU TO MOVE PRETTY MUCH ANYWHERE WITHIN THE CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES. YOU HAVE CHOICES TO MAKE. I STARTED TO THINK ABOUT WHERE I WANTED TO RAISE MY SON AND LIVE THE REST OF MY DAYS. CLAY COUNTY WAS EXACTLY WHERE I PICKED. I COULD NOT PICK A BETTER HOME. I'M SO THANKFUL TO BE HERE AND BE A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TAKE A SECOND TO THANK THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THE LOCAL OFFICIALS HERE TODAY . I DON'T THINK PEOPLE KNOW HOW MUCH YOU DO AND HOW MUCH TIME AND EFFORT YOU PUT INTO KEEPING THIS PLACE THE WONDERFUL PLACE IT IS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPLAUSE ] I WILL NOW CALL TO ORDER THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS

[PET ADOPTIONS]

ONE NOTE. IF YOU ARE WATCHING THE AUDIENCE INSIDE THE BOARD ROOM, THE OLD FOR THE PROJECTOR TO MY LEFT, YOUR RIGHT , IN THE FRONT, IS OUT. YOU WILL NEED TO WATCH ONE OF THE OTHER SCREENS.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE ON THE ONE IN FRONT OF YOU TOO. THANK YOU.

>> OUR FIRST IT TODAY IS RHONDA, DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR,

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AT THREE MONTHS OLD. RHONDA ALREADY KNOWS SHE IS THE BOSS.

NOT A FAN OF BEING PICKED UP. RUDE. BUT SHE IS JOINTING UP -- WARMING UP TO GENTLE PETS ESPECIALLY IF YOU COME WITH TREATS AND COMPLEMENTS. SHE IS SASSY, CLASSY AND SLOWLY LEARNING THAT HUMANS ARE ENTIRELY USELESS. THEY HAVE COMFORTABLE BEDS TO LOUNGE ON AND GREAT SNACKS. NEXT, WE HAVE SNOW CONE. SPAYEDFEMALE, MIXED BREED. FIVE YEARS OLD AND 57 POUNDS. SNOW CONE BUSTED OUT FOR A BOW WOW BREAKFAST. SHE STOLE HEARTS EVERYWHERE. SHE IS SWEET AND SPEEDY AND GREETS STRANGERS LIKE SNACKS. SHE HAS ZOOMED AROUND THE YARD AND MADE NEW BESTIES AND SCORED A NEW NAME TAG BECAUSE SHE IS BASICALLY FAMOUS NOW. IF YOU WANT A DOG THAT IS PART CUDDLE BUG WITH EQUAL PARTS PIZZAZZ, SNOW CONE IS YOUR GIRL. NEXT WE HAVE SKEETER. NEUTERED MALE DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR AND THREE MONTHS OLD AND IS 3 POUNDS. LOW-KEY CHAOS IN A FUR COAT AT THREE MONTHS OLD. SKEETER STILL IS FIGURING OUT THE WHOLE HUMAN THING. HE IS NOT INTO BEING SCOOPED UP LIKE A TOY BUT HE IS STARTING TO ENJOY PETS ON HIS TERMS. EQUAL PARTS CURIOUS AND CAUTIOUS. IS THE KIND OF KITTEN THAT WILL SNEAK UP ON YOUR SHOELACES AND ACT LIKE IT WASN'T HIM . AND LASTLY, WE HAVE ANYE, SPAYED FEMALE MIXED BREED 1-YEAR-OLD AND 45 POUNDS.YOUR BIG EARED BESTIE. SHE HAS EARS THAT DEFY GRAVITY AND A LOVE FOR WATER THAT IS OLYMPIC LEVEL. SHE WILL SPEND HOURS IN THE POOL BREAKING ONLY FOR A QUICK GAME OF FETCH AND SOME ZOO MEANS. HER GOOFY CHARM AND BALANCED ENERGY WILL KEEP YOU SMILING AND SHE IS MASTERING HER MANNERS AND SHE WILL THRIVE WITH SOMEONE PATIENT AND IS READY TO HELP HER GROWTH THROUGH TRADING AND PLAY. IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A LOYAL HIGH-ENERGY COMPANION WHO IS EQUAL PARTS SILLY AND SWEET, ANYE IS READY TO DIVE INTO YOUR LIFE. READY TO MEET YOUR NEW BEST FRIEND? OUR ADOPTABLE ANIMALS ARE WAITING TO ADD EXTRA LOVE AND FUN TO YOUR LIFE. FROM WAGGING TAILS TO KITTENS, WE HAVE THE PERFECT COMPANION JUST FOR YOU . YOU WANT TO SEE WHO IS AVAILABLE? HEAD TO OUR WEBSITE AND MEET OUR ADORABLE CREW LOOKING FOR THEIR FOREVER HOMES.

IFYOU HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU CAN DROP US A LINE AT CLAY ADOPTIONS AT CLAYCOUNTY.GOV AND WE WILL CHAT. DON'T WAIT. YOUR BEST FRIEND IS A CLICK AWAY. PICTURED IS DIANE. DIANE IS LOOKING FOR A FOSTER HOME WHERE SHE CAN GROW, RECEIVE SOCIALIZATION AND GET THE CARE SHE NEEDS UNTIL SHE IS READY TO BE SPAYED. CAN YOU PROVIDE DIANE AND ONE OF HER SIBLINGS A LOVING AND TEMPORARY HOME? AND LASTLY, IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN HELPING OUR FURRY FRIENDS BUT CANNOT BRING ONE HOME, PLEASE LOOK AT THE AMAZON WISH LIST. WE ARE ALWAYS IN NEED OF ITEMS FOR THE SHELTER ANIMALS. JUST GO TO AMAZON.COM. THAT INCLUDES

PET ADOPTIONS. >> THANK YOU. AWFULLY CUTE. THE

[CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS]

>> OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS , WE HAVE DIANE HUTCHINGS THIS AFTERNOON. DID YOU HAVE AN ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA?

>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE HAVE THE CLERK OF THE COURT AND COMPTROLLER, TARA GREEN. ANYTHINGTHERE?

>> JUST AN UPDATE ON THE VAV. THE ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING IS JULY 29TH . DURING THE MEETING, THE VALUE ADJUSTMENT BOARD VOTED TO DO A TIERED PRICING INCREASE FOR THE PETITION. AS A REMINDER FOR THE PUBLIC, PETITIONS WERE $15 SINCE BACK IN THE LATE 70S, EARLY 80S. QUITE FRANKLY, WE NEEDED TO HAVE A LOOK AT IT AND THEY INCREASED IT SO THE BOARD COULD TAKE THE FEE UP TO $50. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, A LOT OF COUNTIES HAVE TAKEN IT UP TO THE $50.

CLAY COUNTY CHOSE TO DO IT HERE WITH THIS PRICING STRUCTURE BECAUSE WE AT THE CLERK'S OFFICE HAVE DEVELOPED AN ONLINE PETITION SYSTEM AND ONLINE PAYMENT SYSTEM FOR DATA QUALITY, EFFICIENCY AND FOR THE PUBLIC. AND THEY VOTED FOR A $35 FEE FOR ELECTRONIC PETITION AND PAYMENT AND A $50 FEE FOR PAYMENT FOR PAPER FORM AND CHECK TYPE PAYMENT. SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT PUBLICLY KNOWN AND PETITIONS HAVE ALREADY STARTED COMING. WE HAVE SIX. WE ARE GETTING HEAVY INTO THE SEASON.

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>> AND IF THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH THE VALUE ON THE TAX FORM, THAT

IS HOW THEY FILE THE PETITION? >> CORRECT. THE APPRAISAL .

>> ON THE NOTICE. >> OKAY.

>> ARE THEY ALREADY OBJECTING TO THIS COMING YEAR'S WERE LAST YEAR'S. OR THEY JUST OBJECTIVE YOUR?

>> WHICH ONCE? >> THE ONES YOU ALREADY STARTED

GETTING? >> A FEW ARE REGULAR FILERS AND

A FEW EXEMPTIONS. >> SHE GETS THEM SO SHE KNOWS

ALL THE DETAILS . >> FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, YOU CAN GET AN EXEMPTION FOR AGRICULTURE BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN AGRICULTURAL ACTIVITY ON YOUR PROPERTY. SOMETIMESPEOPLE THINK THEY GET A CHICKEN AND -- ANYWAY. WITH THE PRICE OF EGGS, THAT MIGHT BE A BONA FIDE THING. ANYWAY. WE HAVE OUR SHERIFF, MICHELLE COOK. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ? THANK YOU FOR BEING

HERE THIS AFTERNOON. >> DID I MISS -- I DIDN'T SEE THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS OR OUR PROPERTY APPRAISER, TRACY

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

>> I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE TO APPROVE THE

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

SAYING AYE. >> AYE.

>> OPPOSED? >> MOTION CARRIES 5-0. WE ARE NOW TO THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA IS DESIGNED TO ALLOW CITIZENS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING MATTERS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOARD AT THIS POINT, THE BOARD WILL NOT ENGAGE IN DEBATE OR ANSWER QUESTIONS. YOU MAY E-MAIL AT CLAYCOUNTY.GOV .COM AND STAFF MAY ADDRESS YOUR QUESTIONS OR YOU MAY E-MAIL YOUR DISTRICT COMMISSIONER. PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS ARE CONVENIENTLY PLACED AT THE MEETING ROOM ENTRANCE AND SHOULD BE SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK ON THE FAR LEFT LEFT. YOUR COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. I WOULD REMIND YOU THAT IF YOU ARE ADDRESSING THE BOARD, TO PLEASE READ THE DECORUM RULES THAT ARE PUBLISHED ON THE BACK OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT CARD.

BEFORE ADDRESSING THE BOARD, WE ASK THAT YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS . I WOULD NOW LIKE TO OPEN THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT

PERIOD AT TODAY'S MEETING. . >> OUR FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT CARD

IS FROM HELENA . >> HELLO. MY NAME IS HELENA COMEER AND MY ADDRESS IS ON FILE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU ALL ARE DOING TO TRY TO HELP US IN THIS COUNTY AND WITH THE DIFFERENT THINGS. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE OPENING CEREMONY TODAY AT FIRE STATION 20. THAT WAS AMAZING TO SEE. WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAPPENED. AND IF ANYBODY HAS NOT DRIVEN DOWN CATHEDRAL OAKS PARKWAY, THEY DEFINITELY NEED TO CHECK THAT OUT. IT IS AMAZING AND I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE THE TRAFFIC THAT TAKES OFF OF THE OTHER ROADS. AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALSO FOR BEING ABLE TO REACH OUT OVER THE WOODEN BRIDGE HAS BEEN AN ISSUE OUR DEVELOPER.

AND THE DEVELOPER NEVER KEEPING THE MAINTENANCE UP ON THAT ONE.

THERE WAS SOME CORRESPONDENCE SENT OUT OVER THE SUMMER. LAST WEEK, THEY SHUT THE BRIDGE DOWN AND JUST SAID THAT YOU CANNOT ACCESS IT. THAT WAS THE ACCESS POINT FOR STUDENTS GOING TO SCHOOL. THANK YOU FOR BEING ABLE TO REACH OUT. AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD , I WAS ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THEM AND THEY WERE ABLE TO GET EMERGENCY BUSING. I WAS INFORMED IT IS ONLY TEMPORARY AND IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL BE DISCUSSING TONIGHT AT THE CDE MEETING. AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THE E-MAILS. I'M STILL STRUGGLING WITH SOME OF THE ISSUES AND OUR COMMUNITY . THE DEVELOPER DID USE THAT BRIDGE AS LEVERAGE.

WHEN I SPOKE TO YOU ALL ABOUT THE LAND THAT IS THE CONSERVATION LAND, IT WAS TAKE ALL OR NOTHING INCLUDING THAT BRIDGE THAT WAS DILAPIDATED WITH THE INFORMATION IN THERE THAT THEY WON'T FIX ANYTHING. AND THEN, SINCE THEN, WE DID GET MORE CORRESPONDENCE WHERE NOW THEY WANT THE UPLAND AREA IN THEIR AND IN CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE COUNTY, THESE AREAS WERE NOT DICTATED IN THE PUD TO BE DEFINED WHERE THE LOCATIONS ARE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF LAND IN OUR COMMUNITY. BUT IF THEY ARE NOT SPELLED OUT SPECIFICALLY IN THOSE PLATTED AREAS, THEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT LAND QUALIFIES FOR THOSE WALKING TRAILS AND

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YOU. >> THANK YOU. HELENA, GOOD TO

SEE YOU. >> THANK YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>> I KNOW YOU HAVE TO LEAVE FOR YOUR MEETING SO THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FORYOUR SERVICE. THE NEXT CARD IS FOR ROBERT MEADOWS.

YOU HAVE MARKED FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU ARE WELCOME TO SPEAK NOW. THE SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU ALSO HAVE THE

OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. >>

>> I HAVE CARDS THAT SAY THEY WANT TO YIELD THEIR TIME TO YOU.

THAT IS NOT PART OF THE POLICY. YOU GET THREE MINUTES AT PUBLIC COMMENT AND ONLY THREE MINUTES BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER SPEAKERS THAT COULD PACK THE ROOM AND SPEAK ALL NIGHT AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO FILIBUSTER. THIS IS OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND OUR POLICY SAYS THAT YOU GET THREE MINUTES.

>> OKAY. I MISUNDERSTOOD. I APOLOGIZE. I PROVIDED A LITTLE DISSERTATION, IF YOU WILL , FOR EACH ONE OF YOU. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO LOOK AT OVER. I MAY HAVE SOME INCORRECT NUMBERS .

>> ONE SECOND. WOULD YOU PUSH THAT MICROPHONE UP? THEY CAN'T

HEAR YOU ONLINE. >> HOW IS THAT?

>> THAT IS GOOD, I THINK. >> SHALL WE START AGAIN?

>> YES, SIR. >> I PROVIDED FOR EACH ONE OF YOU A LITTLE WRITE UP THAT I SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME DOING RESEARCH ON AND SUCH. I'M HERE AGAIN BECAUSE LAST MONTH, I CAME DOWN BECAUSE OF YOUR UTILITY TAX. AND I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU TO CONSIDER . IS CLAY COUNTY A MUNICIPALITY ? OR IS IT A CHARTER COUNTY? LOOKING UP EVERYTHING, IT SEEMS CLAY COUNTY PROVIDED A 22.3% RAISE ACROSS THE BOARD BETWEEN 22 AND 23. IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE INSPECTOR GENERAL'S OFFICE AND HIGHWAY SAFETY AND MOTOR VEHICLE FOLKS AND THEIR ATTORNEYS AFTER DOING RESEARCH, THE STATE LEGISLATURE ONLY PROVIDED TO THE STATE EMPLOYEES A 2% RAISE. IT CERTAINLY SEEMS TO ME THAT AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY IS BEING THROWN AROUND HERE WITH VARIOUS AND SUNDRY EMPLOYEES ON SUCH THAT IT IS NOT THE LIEN, CLOSELY RUN OPERATION THAT WOULD MAKE IT AN INDUSTRY. AND I ASK YOU TO READ WHAT I HAVE GIVEN YOU AND CONSIDER WHERE THE MONEY GOES.

ONE THING I SAW THERE IS AMBULANCE BILLING PEOPLE .

READING THROUGH THE STATUTES, I FOUND THE STATUTE THAT SAYS , COUNTIES MAY NOT CHARGE FOR FIRST RESPONDER SERVICE. AND THAT INCLUDES AMBULANCE SERVICE . SO HOW IS THAT? I ALSO ADDRESSED TENTED WINDOWS. I PASSED PROBABLY $25,000 AND $600 FEES FOR OVER TENTED WINDOWS. THERE ARE PROBABLY ENOUGH OVER TENTED WINDOWS IN CLAY COUNTY AND OTHER VEHICLE VIOLATIONS THAT YOU CAN MEET THE BUDGET AND GIVE EVERYBODY A 20% BONUS.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. MEADOWS.

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>> CONSTANTINE TO SURRENDER YOUR TIME TO MR. MEADOWS BUT YOU ARE WELCOME TO SPEAK IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

>> TERESA SANDY . >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS AND PUBLIC OFFICIALS. FROM CLAY COUNTY, 40. THERE IS A TIME WHEN THE MOST WELL GROOMED AND PROFESSIONALLY SPINELESS MUST LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND RECOGNIZE THE COWARD STARING BACK. AND THAT TIME IS NOW. WE HAVE WATCHED THE DISGUST AS YOU HAVE TRADED THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE WITH GILDED HANDSHAKES OF THE POWERFUL. WE HAVE SEEN YOU SHRINK FROM DUTY , SHRINK FROM PRINCIPAL AND SHRINK FROM THE VERY PEOPLE THAT AT ONE TIME TRUSTED YOU TO STAND. INSTEAD, USE IT COMPLACENT . YOU HAVE FOUND YOURSELF SITTING AT TABLES YOU ARE MEANT TO FLIP OVER.

INSTEAD OF APPENDING CORRUPTION, YOU HAVE BECOME A CENTERPIECE POLISHING THE SILVERWARE FOR TIERNEY WITH THE SWEAT OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS. I DO NOT BEG OF YOU FOR SCRAPS AND DEMOCRACY. WE BEG FOR THE RETURN OF WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY OURS, LEADERSHIP, TRUTH AND REPRESENTATION . NOT IN THE NAME OF PARTY NOR POWER NOR PROFIT. BUT PEOPLE. YOU ARE NOT SEATED IN THOSE CHAIRS TO COWER TO KINGS NOR TO LEND YOUR VOICE TO THE GREAT COURSE OF ENABLES AND SYCOPHANTS THAT DRESSED TREASON AND THE LAND OF COMPROMISE. AND SO I ASKED, WHAT WILL YOU DO ABOUT THE MAN WHO AIMS TO BE OUR KING ? WHAT WILL YOU DO ABOUT THE SLOW EROSION OF LIBERTY ? THE STRIPPING OF HEALTHCARE AND THE BENEFITS TO THE MOTHERS AND CHILDREN'S DEPENDENT UPON THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU SO BOLDLY VOTE THE WAY. WHAT WILL YOU DO ABOUT THE DEALS STRUCK IN THE BACK ROOMS AND THE TRUTH SWALLOWED WHOLE BY THE MACHINERY OF THE SECTION ? HOW ABOUT THE BOATS IGNORED BY THE PUPPET MASTERS BEHIND THE CURTAIN? DO NOT THINK YOU CAN DISMISS THESE QUESTIONS WITH TIRED RHETORIC OR PARTY POLITICS OR THE WELL-WORN PHRASES OF A MAN WHO BELIEVES HIS OWN COWARDICE IS STRATEGY. YOU OS ANSWERS, UNABATED, UNFILTERED AND UNTAMED BY THE FEAR OF THOSE THAT SIGN YOUR CHECKS AND PROMISE YOU A SEAT AT THE TABLE OF POWER. AND IF YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER . IF YOU BELIEVE YOU CAN SILENCE US WITH RED TAPE, RHETORIC OR RIGHT SHIELDS, KNOW THIS. YOU CAN DRAG ME FROM THIS ROOM. YOU MAY STRIP ME OF THE MICROPHONE AND PODIUM. BUT ANOTHER WILL RISE IN MY PLACE AND ANOTHER. AND ANOTHER . AND ANOTHER. BECAUSE WE ARE MANY . WE ARE THOSE WHO WILL NOT BE DISSUADED BY THE CIRCULAR VOCABULARY OF THE DECEPTIVE. WE ARE THOSE WHO HAVE HAD ENOUGH . ANDTHE WALLS OF HISTORY ARE ALIGNED WITH THOSE WHO THOUGHT THEY WERE UNTOUCHABLE . KINGS, TYRANTS, PUPPETS AND COWARDS ALIKE ALL HAVE FALLEN TO THE PEOPLE AWAKENED. CHOOSE WISELY, COMMISSIONERS AND PUBLIC OFFICIALS. YOU STAND AT THE PRECIPICE OF YOUR OWN IRRELEVANCE. STEP FORWARD WITH COURAGE OR STEP ASIDE. THANK YOU . AND THANK YOU THE DEFIANT 13 FOR THESE WORDS.

>> THANK YOU MS. SANDY. >> OWEN RUSSELL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? NO? OKAY. DENNIS BETHANY.

>> I WAS HOPE YOU ARE NOT CALLING ME AFTER THAT.

>> I'M SORRY. >> I GUESS EVERYBODY GETS THROWN

INTO THE FIRE. >> MY NAME IS DENNIS BETHANY.

1825B EAST SPRINGS CIRCLE . I WAS AT THE STATION OPENING THIS MORNING. THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE I HAVE EVER BEEN AT. I WAS IMPRESSED WITH THE BATHROOMS BECAUSE THEY ALL AHEAD SHOWERS IN THEM. AND MY QUESTION IS, WHO WAS INSTRUMENTAL GETTING THE BEANS FROM 9/11. I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING TO BE OUT FRONT.

I KNOW WE HAVE A PROBLEM AROUND HERE WITH BUILDING ROADS.

WEHAVE DEVELOPERS THAT I GUESS DON'T HAVE TO FUND IT UNTIL AFTER THEY START PUTTING HOUSES IN. I THINK WHAT WE COULD DO IS JUST DON'T UPGRADE THE ROADS AND DON'T PUT THE UTILITIES IN FOR THEM . I LIVE IN A CDD AND THEY GET A BOND TO DO ALL OF THAT. TAKE THE CONTRACTOR PAY FOR ALL OF THAT FOR THE ROADS IN

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>> THANK YOU MR. MATHENY. I WOULD TELL YOU THAT THE ONLY INVOLVEMENT WE HAVE WITH CCUA AS WE APPOINT SOME OF THEIR GOVERNING BOARD MEMBERS AND NOT ALL. THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BOARD MEETINGS. I WOULD REACH OUT AND SEE. I WOULD THINK THEY WOULD HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT TOO. THAT I'M NOT A CCUA CUSTOMER SO

I DON'T KNOW. >> THEY HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD BUT I CAN'T GET INFORMATION TO ASK A QUESTION ON THE RATE INCREASE YOUR IF I CAN GET INFORMATION, HOW CAN I SPEAK

LEGITIMATELY AT THE MEETING . >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.

>> YES OR. Ú>> SORRY I DON'T H ANSWERS FOR YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD?

[CONSENT AGENDA]

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION .

[18.  Progress Report on the Bonded Transportation Program and Other Capital Projects (Capital Projects Team)]

>> SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR, INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. NOW WE ARE AT ITEM NUMBER 18 ON THE AGENDA FOR THE PROGRESS REPORT ON THE BOND AND TRANSPORTATION PROJECT AND OTHER

CAPITAL PROJECTS . >> GOOD EVENING TO THE BOARD THROUGH THE CHAIR. BOND TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR. HERE TO UPDATE YOU WITH THE PROGRESS THE TEAM HAS MADE OVER THE LAST MONTH. AS FAR AS PROJECT ONE ON THE CATEGORY OF 218 FROM MASTERS PIT ROAD TO PINE TREE LANE, THE COUNTY CONTINUES THE BIMONTHLY STATUS MEETINGS . ON SITE THREE.

EXCAVATION IS NEARING COMPLETION WHERE THE GRASS WAS PLACED ON PENSÉE NUMBER FOUR. CONTAINING THE INSTALLATION OF DRAINAGE STRUCTURES, PIPES AND DEMOLITION AND DRIVEWAYS. AND CONTAINING PAVEMENT REPAIR FOR DRIVEWAYS AND PIPES ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROJECT. THIS CAN BE CONTINUED A SUBBASE CURVE AND LIMESTONE BASE. THE PROJECT IS 48% PAID OUT AND 74% ] GROUP , PROJECT TWO, CONTINUE TO AND SLAY THE STORMWATER DRAINPIPES. AND COMPLETING THE INSTALLATION OF PENSÉE TWO. COMPLETE THE BETWEEN PENSÉE TWO. AND CONTINUE TO INSULATE THE, FALLS AND FINISH THE GREAT AT THE SAME POND SITE. THE PLACED ON THE NORTH SIDE . TRAFFIC WAS SHIFTED TO THIS

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INSUPPORTABLE THE WORK, WGI CONTINUES TO WORK ACROSS THE ENTIRE PROGRAM . AS OF AUGUST SIX, THE PROGRAM EXPENDED 130 3.4 MILLION. THAT CONCLUDES THE BOND TRANSPORTATION UPDATE . ANY

QUESTIONS? >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR ED?

>> ON GROUP 13B, CONTRACTOR PROJECT SCHEDULE UNDER CONTENTION . WHAT DO THOSE WORDS MEAN?

>> ESSENTIALLY, THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO START THE PROJECT WHEN WE ORIGINALLY CONTRACTED PART OF THAT. PART OF THAT WAS HONEST BECAUSE OF THE WETLAND LITIGATION AND PART OF THAT WAS ON THEM. AND WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF DEFENDING OUR POSITION WHILE THEY STRONGLY PUSH THEIR POSITION OF THEIR ABILITY TO NOT MOBILIZE AS QUICKLY AS THEY THOUGHT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO. THEY ARE NOT HAPPY WITH US AND WE ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THEM AT THIS POINT.

>> SO ARE YOU GOING TO ARM WRESTLE?

>> MAYBE. >> THANK YOU.

>> MADAM CHAIR. >> FOLLOWING UP ON THE QUESTION.

HOW TO THOSE TEND TO GET RESOLVED? AS THEIR MEDIATOR?

>> RIGHT NOW IT IS A LETTER WRITING CAMPAIGN. THEY SENT US A LETTER AND WE SEND ONE BACK TO THEM. THEIR ATTORNEYS ARE INVOLVED IN OUR ATTORNEYS ARE INVOLVED. EVENTUALLY, IF IT DOES GO TO THE END OF THE CONTRACT , WE WILL STILL HAVE HER ATTENTION. AT SOMEPOINT, IT WOULD GO INTO LIQUIDATED DAMAGES. AT THAT TIME, IT COULD ENTER REMEDIATION AND THEN GO TO

COURT. >> I THINK MOST OF THESE THAT YOU BRIEFED US ON , USUALLY IF IT IS IN CONTENTION, THEY ARE WELL PAST THE DEADLINE . IT IS 120%, 110%. NOT JUST ON OUR END

BUT THE CONTRACTOR END. >> IN THIS CASE, IT WAS RECOGNIZED THAT IT WOULD BE WELL BEYOND THE COMPLETION DATE AND WE WERE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND SETTLE THE EXTENSION OF THE CONTRACT. THEY WOULD NOT ACCEPT OUR LANGUAGE AND WE DID NOT ACCEPT THEIR LANGUAGE. THAT HAS HAPPENED TWICE SO FAR. AT THIS POINT, I WOULD SAY THEY HAVE A POSITION AND WE HAVE A POSITION.

LEASE -- WE FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT OUR POSITION.

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>> ARE WE STILL LOOKING AT A FULL COMPLETION FOR COUNTY ROAD

218 WEST? >> ON THAT ONE, THE CONTRACTORS THEY HAD ISSUES WITH ONE OF THE SUBCONTRACTORS AND THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO PUSH FOR ADDITIONAL DAYS. THERE MAY BE SOME VALIDITY AT SOME DATE BUT NOT ALL THE DAYS THEY FOR.

ON 218, THE ORIGINAL FORECAST WAS THIS FALL. BUT

] GOES BEYOND THAT . >> I GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT HOW ROUGH IT IS. IRONICALLY, IF THEY DRIVE THE 25 MILES AN HOUR , IT ISN'T AS BAD. AND, THEY WILL AVOID HAVING TO INTERACT WITH ONE OF OUR SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES . AND THANK YOU, SHERIFF COOK. WE APPRECIATE THE PATROL. IT IS AN ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION ZONE. THE SAME PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT BEING ROUGH COMPLAIN ABOUT THE SPEED LIMIT BEING 25 AND/OR GETTING TICKETS. SO IT IS QUITE IRONIC. I'M SURE YOU KNOW THAT FEELING VERY WELL. I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT IS DONE AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPUTY IS MAKING SURE EVERYONE IS SAFE .

>> THAT SECTION IS TEMPORARY PAVEMENT. IF YOU ARE DRIVING AT A REASONABLE 10, 15 OR 20 ,

>> THEY REPORT THE DEPUTY IS VERY FRIENDLY WHO GIVES THE TICKETS . BUT APPARENTLY SHE GIVES THE MAN SHE IS NICE ABOUT IT. I THINK THAT IS GREAT. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE BONDED

TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM? >> OR THE PROJECTS?

>> FOR BOND TRANSPORTATION TO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, WE HAVE AN UPDATE FROM ALL SIX DIRECTORS. THEDIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING.

BOOK, PUBLIC WORKS, JUSTIN PIERCE, PUBLIC WORKS. DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES AND OPERATIONS. AIR JONES, DIRECTOR OF GROUND MAINTENANCE AS WELL AS MYSELF, DIRECTOR OF CAPITAL PROJECTS.

THE TEAM HAS MADE OVER THE LAST MONTH. A LIST OF PROJECTS ATTACHED TO THE REPORT, 262 PROJECTS ARE COMPILED BY VERONIKA DING, THE PROJECT CONTROL SPECIALIST. IN GENERAL TERMS , DISSECTING THAT ENTIRE WORK LIST, 59 OF THE PROJECTS ARE DIRECT PURCHASES. FOR EXAMPLE, THOSE ARE FURNISHING AND THE INSTALLED TYPE -- IF YOU WANT TO CALL THEM PROJECTS. SUCH AS PURCHASING AND INSTALLING BLEACHERS. WE HAVE 157 THAT WE CONSIDER TRUE PROJECTS. AND TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION CONCEPTUALIZATION, DESIGN AND ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION AND TURNOVER OF A PROJECT. THAT EQUALS BASICALLY A TOTAL OF 262 PROJECTS. BEGINNING THIS MONTH, WE WILL START REPORTING A LITTLE BIT ALSO ON THE OVERALL STATUS OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY BOND. THE TARGET ON THE COVENANTS IS 65 MILLION BY JUNE OF 2027. SO FAR TO DATE, THE COUNTY SPENT 10.5 MILLION JUST AROUND 16% AT 65 MILLION. THE TEAM WILL CONTINUE TO GAUGE AND MITIGATE SPENDING RISKS EACH MONTH DEPENDING ON THE TARGETS. ALSO THIS MONTH AND MOVING FORWARD, WE WILL DIVIDE UP OUR REPORTING AND DESIGN A CONSTRUCTION HIGHLIGHT REPORT BY VERTICAL OR BUILDING PROJECTS VERSUS HORIZONTAL PROJECTS .

WITH RICHARD HERE TO MY RIGHT. I WILL REPORT OUT ON THE VERTICAL AND RICHARD WILL TAKE CARE OF THE HORIZONTAL . I WILL GO AHEAD AND HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THE PROJECTS. SEVEN DIFFERENT PROJECTS ON THE VERTICAL SIDE. FIRST, FIRE STATION 24 . WE MENTIONED FIRE STATION 20 THIS MORNING WITH THE GRAND OPENING.

IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL CEREMONY. THE PROJECT INVOLVES THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF A 13,000 SQUARE-FOOT, FOUR BAY FIRE STATION AT THE INTERSECTION OF SWAT ROAD AND COUNTY ROAD 226.

THE 90% PLANS ARE UNDER REVIEW BY IRC OR THE INTERNAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. IT IS -- FEMA IS REVIEWED THE DRAFT OR THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT. WITH THEIR IMPROVABLE -- APPROVAL, WE ANTICIPATE EARLY NOVEMBER. CONSTRUCTION IS EXPECTED TO TAKE APPROXIMATELY 16 MONTHS THE FORECAST COMPLETION SUMMER OF 2027. FIRE STATION 22, THE PROJECT INVOLVES THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF A 16,000 SQUARE FOOT WIDE BAY FIRE STATION AT ARENA ROAD AND COUNTY ROAD 220. THE DISTRICT PERMIT WAS ISSUED.

THE AGREEMENT IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING FINALIZED . THE BUILDING PERMIT IS IN THE FINAL STAGES OF APPROVAL.

PRECONSTRUCTION MEETING IS BEING SCHEDULED WITH AN ANTICIPATED GROUNDBREAKING IN EARLY SEPTEMBER. CONSTRUCTION IS EXPECTED TO TAKE APPROXIMATELY 14 MONTHS WITH THE FORECAST COMPLETION IN THE FALL OF 2026. TAX COLLECTOR OFFICE AT ORANGE PARK PROJECT. THIS PROJECT IS DEMOLISHING THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING AND ABOUT A 50 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE . FRAMING, WALLS, DOORS AND HVAC SYSTEM HAS BEEN INSTALLED. THE CONTRACTOR IS STARTING THE MILLWORK FOR THE SERVICE AREA AND THE STATIONS.

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DOORS AND WINDOWS ARE CURRENTLY BEING INSTALLED, WHICH WILL BE FOLLOWED BY PAINTING. ALSO, THEY WILL BE REPAVING THE ADJACENT SENIOR CENTER PARKING LOT . THAT WILL BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS PROJECT. CURRENTLY , THE PROJECT IS 53% COMPLETE. THE BLACK CREEK LIGHT-RAIL WORD WALKER APPEARS , CONSISTENTLY REPAIRING THE EXISTING COME ALMOST 1700 LINEAR FEET OF BOARDWALK ALONG U.S. 17. CONSISTS OF REPLACING DECKS, HANDRAIL AND THREE SECTIONS OF THE BOARDWALK. SECTION SOUTH OF COUNTY ROUTE 220 HAVE BEEN COMPLETE IN THE SECTIONS NORTH OF COUNTY ROAD 220 ARE PENDING COMPLETION AND INSPECTION. FIRE STATION NUMBER ONE, THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW FIVE BAY FIRE STATION LOCATED AT MILBERG OFF OF OLD JENNINGS AND GRAND BOULEVARD. THE DISTRICT PERMIT WAS ISSUED AND THE BUILDING PERMIT IS IN THE FINAL STAGES OF APPROVAL . GROUNDBREAKING IS ANTICIPATED EARLY OCTOBER AND CONSTRUCTION IS EXPECTED TO TAKE APPROXIMATELY 14 MONTHS. LAST PROJECT, VERTICAL PROJECT, REPORT THIS EVENING IS THE CONNECTIONS AT OMEGA COMMUNITY PARK FOR CCUA SERVICES. THE PROJECT WILL DESIGN AND INSTALL NEW PROJECT AND SERVICE MAINS WITHIN THE COMPLEX AND TAP INTO THE EXISTING CLAY COUNTY UTILITY AUTHORITY WATER, SEWER ON COUNTY ROAD 218. AND THEN THERE WILL BE THE DECOMMISSIONING EXISTING SEPTIC TANK FIELD WHILE CONSTRUCTING A NEW LIST STATION. AND REPLACING THE RESIDENTIAL INAUDIBLE ] WITH THE ACTUAL COMMERCIAL TRADE COME WITH FINAL SITE RESTORATION. THE DESIGN IS 100% COMPLETE. THE PROJECT IS IN THE PRE-BID STATUS. THE PROJECT IS PENDING FINAL SEWER APPLICATION WITH CCUA UNDER THE DEVELOPING AGREEMENT. WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO RICHARD TO UPDATE YOU ON

THE HORIZONTAL . >> AS YOU CAN TELL, WE HAVE A FEW THINGS FINISHED IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS. THE BIG ONES, STATE ROUTE 23 IS OPEN. THE CATHEDRAL PARKWAY OPEN AND CANOVA ROAD AT 220. GOES ALL THREE OPEN BEFORE SCHOOL STARTED MONDAY. NOT A LOT . WE WON BY A NOSE, YOU COULD SAY. WE OPENED SATURDAY AND WENT TO SCHOOL MONDAY. THEY ARE OPEN. CANOVA ROAD IS COMPLETED. THE STRIPING IS ALL MOST 100% COMPLETE. ANOTHER PROJECT AT A BUSY SCHOOL AREAS PLANTATION PLANTATION OAKS BOULEVARD. THAT PROJECT WAS PUSHED BACK TO THE SUMMER. THEY REQUESTED THE SCHOOL BECAUSE WITH THREE OR NUMBER PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN A ROW, IT WAS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT. THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SOME UPGRADE TO THE STRIPING WHICH WILL TAKE PLACE WE HAVE SOME HIGH INTENSITY CROSSWALKS THAT ARE PARALLEL WHITE LINES WITH WHAT I CALL PIANO KEYS. WE ARE CONTINUING ON THE 220 PROJECT TO HOLLER'S PLACE AT THE HANLEY ROAD INTERSECTION. THE PROJECT IS ABOUT 45-46% COMPLETE. THE DRAINAGE WORK ON RIGHT OUT FERRY IS COMPLETED. AND YOU WILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK GOING ON ON THE DRAINAGE AREA OF THE EAST SIDE OF HENLEY. THAT WILL GO QUICKLY BECAUSE THAT SIDE OF 220 FROM HANLEY ROAD TO THE BRIDGE IS NOT CLOSED BUT IT IS VERY LIGHT TRAFFIC. SO WE ARE ON SCHEDULE ON THAT . OVER HALF OF THE BRIDGE DECK IS POURED. SO IT IS GETTING VERY CLOSE. JOE JOHNS , RESIDENTS THERE, AND THEY WANT TO SEEK ALTERNATE ROUTES. THERE WILL BE BUSYWORK THERE AT THE JOE JOHNS INTERSECTION WITH THE 220. LAKESHORE DRIVE IT OLD HARBOR ROAD IS NEARING 50% COMPLETE. IT IS PAVING NOW. YOU SEE PAVING GOING ON. THE GUTTERS ARE IN. THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS UP PICK THAT IS ON SCHEDULE TO OPEN AND BE COMPLETE AND IN THE JANUARY, FEBRUARY TIMEFRAME. SO WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF FINISHING IT. CONTINUING DOWN 220 , WE HAVE PROJECTS COMING UP. EAST-WEST PARKWAY WILL BEGIN. WE HAVE WORKED THERE AND WE WILL BE MAKING THE RIGHT TURN LANE SAFER AND UPGRADING THOSE SIGNALS. THEY ARE PRETTY OLD. WE ALSO

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IT IS NOT PAVED YET. BUT THEY ARE USING IT. IT IS SAFER THAN WALKING ON A DIRT ROAD. WE ARE SEEING THAT. CLAY ELECTRIC IS COMPLETED WITH THE UTILITY WORK. IT IS ON SCHEDULE AS WELL.

>> I WILL UPDATE -- WE HAVE ONE OTHER TRAIL PROJECT. IT IS A BIG PROJECT. A LOT OF THE PUBLIC MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT IT YET. WE HAVE A GRANT TO EXTEND THE TRAIL THAT WE ARE COMPLETING AT LIVE OAK LANE. IMMEDIATE FROM LIVE OAK LANE TO LANEY BOULEVARD.

THAT WILL GO DOWN OLD JENNINGS ROAD AND LONG BAY. IT WILL BE A 12-FOOT WIDE CONCRETE, WHAT THEY CALL A SUN TRAIL , FOR ON MOTORIZED VEHICLES. SO THAT PROJECT, WE WILL HAVE 30% DESIGN DRAWINGS MONDAY. NEXT MONDAY, THE 18TH. THAT WILL REVIEW -- WE WILL REVIEW THAT AND WE WILL HAVE RIGHT-OF-WAY WORK TO BE DONE. BUT WE LOOK TO START CONSTRUCTION ON IT IN THE 1ST QUARTER OF 2026. PROBABLY SIX OR SEVEN MONTHS FOR COMPLETE DESIGN AND PERMITTING. THE D.O.T. UPDATE THIS WEEK WILL FOCUS ON U.S. 17. THEY WILL GO BACK TO WORK IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS ON THE SECTION FROM 220 SOUTH, TO BORDEREAU GUILLAIN. THAT WILL INCLUDE FINISHING UP THE DUAL TURN LANES AT 220. WE ARE USING ONE OF THEM NOW. WE WILL BE ABLE TO USE BOTH OF THEM TO GO NORTHBOUND AND TURN LEFT ON 220 AND SOUTHBOUND AND TURN RIGHT ON 220 . AS WELL AS THE RESTRIPING OF BORDEREAU LANE AND THE FINAL TOPPING OF -- WHAT YOU ARE DRIVING ON NOW IS NOT THE FINAL . THERE IS ONE MORE COURSE OF ASPHALT THAT WILL GO ON THAT.

AND YOU WON'T FEEL COMPLETELY FINISHED. THEY STARTED WORK MEDIALLY ON THE AREA FROM BLACK CREEK BRIDGE SELLTHROUGH DOWNTOWN GREEN COVE , TO COVE STREET SOUTH OF 16. IF YOU HAVE BEEN TO THE ACE HARDWARE OR THE HARDEE'S THERE, THAT MEDIAN THEY ARE BUILDING THERE, THEY ARE TAKING AWAY -- AT SOME POINT, D.O.T. PUT A TURN LANE THERE . AND THEY ARE CHANNELING THAT. THAT IS PART OF THAT PROJECT. OTHER PARTS OF THE PROJECT WILL INCLUDE SOME HARRIERS TO BE PLACED DOWNTOWN , TO STOP LEFT TURNS INTO WALGREENS AND DOWN NEAR CITY HALL. IT IS MORE OF A TRAFFIC CONTROL. MAKING ITSAFER TO WALK AND TRAVEL THROUGH MORE WITH LESS CONGESTION. AND I THINK THAT IS ALL. ANY QUESTIONS? THAT IS WHAT IS GOING ON NOW .

>> RICHARD, DO YOU HAVE -- HAVE YOU HEARD PLANS FROM D.O.T.

ABOUT IN THE FUTURE, SIX LANE OR 17, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO GREEN COVE INSTEAD OF THE FOUR OVER THE BLACK CREEK RIDGE?

>> TO SOME OF OUR, THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE PROJECT IN CLAY COUNTY. NOT EVERYBODY AGREES WITH THAT BUT THEY HAVE ASKED US TO KEEP THAT IN THE TOP SIX NOW ON THE TPO LIST. THAT ALLOWS

THEM TO LOBBY HARD FOR FUNDING . >> I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE HARDEST JOBS WE HAVE IS TO TRY TO GET AHEAD OF THINGS . I THINK THAT THE CITIZENS ALWAYS SAY, PUT THE ROAD IN BEFORE THE GROWTH . AND WITH GOVERNORS PARK, THAT WILL BE VITAL. ABSOLUTELY VITAL. EVEN WITH THE BELTWAY OPEN. JUST

THAT . THAT IS THE WAY NORTH. >> THE NORTHERN IS ACTUALLY ACROSS THE BRIDGE AT TOWN CENTER BOULEVARD COMING IN. I'M NOT SURE. THEBRIDGE EXPANSION , I'M NOT SURE WOULD BE A BIG DOLLAR THERE. OTHER THAN THAT, COMMISSIONER BURKE AND COMMISSIONER CONDON KNOW THAT THAT HAS BEEN THE PROJECT AT TPO. THEY MEANING DISTRICT 2, THEY KNOW IT IS A BIG PROJECT

FOR THEM. >> PAVING FROM 222 BORDER ROAD, IS THAT THE RIGHT TURN LANE WE HAD SPOKEN TO ABOUT LAST

MEETING? >> YES, SIR.

>> AND THE RIGHT TURN LANE IS STILL THERE IN THE PLAN ?

>> CORRECT. THERE WILL BE NO CHANGES TO THE SURFACE. OTHER THAN IT WILL GET RESURFACED FROM 17, TO THE FIRST INTERSECTION AND IT WILL BE A RESTRIPING JOB . IT DEDICATES THE RIGHT TURN LANE AND RIGHT TURN ONLY ON THE THROUGH LANE WILL SHARE THE LEFT

TURN WITH THAT. >> THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR THREE OR FOUR YEARS. OUR CONSTITUENT WAS A LITTLE BIT ANGRY THAT IT HAD NOT BEEN DONE YET. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT FOR AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS NOW. IT IS FINALLY

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GOING TO BE DONE. >> WE ARE HOPING IN THE NEXT 10

DAYS. >> TELL ME ABOUT ELDRIDGE .

>> ELDRIDGE IS STILL FLASHING. >> IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS COMPLETE.

>> IT WAS FLASHING SUNDAY. I HAD EVERY INDICATION IT WOULD BE IN FULL OPERATION ON FRIDAY, THE NIGHT. WE HAVE JIM NIGHT NECK, THE URBAN PLANNER FROM JACKSONVILLE AND ON THURSDAY

MORNING . THAT IS ON THE AGENDA. >> AT ONE POINT, THE MATCHED ARM WAS NOT ABOUT ELDRIDGE BUT IT IS UP NOW.

>> IT IS NOT FUNCTIONING. IT WILL FUNCTION AS A GREEN , RED, STANDARD SIGNAL BUT IT IS JUST NOT CURRENTLY.

>> COMMISSIONER BURKE. THE EXPRESSWAY OPENING RIGHT NEXT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON BYRON ROAD, THEY WANT TO KNOW IF THEY WILL

BE DOING ANY NOISE BARRIERS . >> THAT PART BY BYRON ROAD, THE ROAD IS ELEVATED ABOUT 20 PLUS FEET. WE WILL TALK TO JIM.

ADDED THAT TO THE AGENDA AFTER YOUR E-MAIL. THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED TO SEE WHAT THE PROCEDURE IS ON THE NOISE BARRIER. IS NOT THE ONLY PLACE. WE HAVE A PLACE SOUTH OF THEIR .

SOUTH OF SAND RIDGE. BETWEENSANDRIDGE AND CATHEDRAL AND UNOFFICIALLY REQUESTED IT. WE HAVE HIM THURSDAY AT 10:00.

WE HAVE AARON STRICK WHO IS ONE OF THE -- ONE OF THE EXECUTIVES ON THE FLORIDA TURNPIKE AUTHORITY THAT WILL BE IN THE OFFICE AS WELL. SO I WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THEM AND DISCUSS THE ALONG WITH OTHERS.

>> I WOULD THINK THEY WOULD DO THAT WHEN THEY BUILD IT . I GUESS JUST WAIT AND SEE HOW IT GOES.

>> A LOT OF IT IS TO WAIT AND SEE ON BYRON. I'M CONFIDENT IT WILL BE A VERY DIFFICULT TASK. THE ROAD, WE ADDED A BRIDGE THERE FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS TO CONNECT BYRON ROAD TO WINCHESTER. WHICH IS , WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD FROM HISTORIANS, HAS NOT BEEN OPEN FOR 50 YEARS. BUT WE DID THAT -- WHEN I SAY WE, THE COUNTY DID THAT WHEN THE EXPRESSWAY WAS BEING PLANNED TO INCREASE THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND ACCESS ON THE BYRON ROAD SIDE.

FOR THERE TO BE A REASON TO HAVE AN OVERPASS LIKE THAT, I DON'T THINK A NOISE WALL -- IT WILL BE A HEAVY ASKED. WE WILL SEE HOW

TO DO IT. >> THANK YOU .

>> WHEN YOU MEET WITH D.O.T., WILL YOU ASK THEM ABOUT -- I GET A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR THE FENCING TO BE REMOVED ACROSS THE BRIDGE AND GOING ACROSS BROOKLYN AND KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. THEY HAVE PEDESTRIAN FENCING AND THEY DON'T MAINTAIN IT. IT HAS ALL KINDS OF MOSS THAT GROWS AND IT . AND I DON'T KNOW WHY IT IS THERE. IT IS NOT ON THE SIDE WHERE THEY WOULD JUMP OFF, I

DON'T BELIEVE. >> MAYBE NOT ON EITHER SIDE.

>> LET ME PUT THAT DIFFERENT. THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO JUMP OFF. THE SIGNAGE IS THAT. THEDEPUTIES, IF THEY SEE KIDS DOING IT. THAT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, OF THE BRIDGE.

THEY WOULDN'T JUMP WHERE THE PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALK IS .

BUTD.O.T. PUT UP THIS BIG FENCE YEARS AGO WHEN THE BRIDGE WAS REBUILT AND THE ROAD WAS LOWERED. AND IT IS JUST NOT MAINTAINED. IT IS VERY UNSIGHTLY.

>> IT IS OFFENSE YOU CAN SEE FROM A GOOGLE IMAGE. I COULD SHOW YOU THAT TOMORROW, OR THURSDAY.

>> I WILL CHECK ON THAT. >> THANK YOU.

>> IF WE CAN ASK FOR -- ONE SECOND. THE BIG TRUCKS. THE EXPRESSWAY OFF HENLEY THOSE HE IS ASKING IF WE CAN PUT SIGNS UP

FOR THAT . >> THEY ARE SLOWING THE BIG TRUCKS DOWN BY THE SUBDIVISIONS GOING FROM 45, TO 35.

>> I WILL DEFER TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. I HAVE SEEN THAT ANOTHER MENACE THE POLITIES AND THERE IS ALWAYS AN ORDINANCE NUMBER UNDER IT. WE CAN PUT ALL THE SIGNS UP WE WANT. BUT WITHOUT THE ORDINANCE, WE ARE KIND OF HANDCUFFED FOR THE

ENFORCEMENT OF IT . >> I WILL SEND THAT TO YOU AND

YOU CAN SEE. >> I KNOW WHEN THEY START, THE TRAFFIC IS HEAVY BEFORE THEY COULD BYPASS AND THEY HAD AN

ORDINANCE FOR NOISE . >> I HAVE A QUESTION. THAT IS PART OF THE TRUCK ITSELF, ISN'T BRAK E.

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>> THEY HAVE AN ORDINANCE. THEY CALL IT ENGINE BRAKING. THERE IS ONE ON 100 COMING NORTH . IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT IS AWARE OF AND THAT WE HAVE CODIFIED.

>> ANY OTHERS ? >> THANK YOU.

>> WHAT SHOULD I DO . >> WE WILL GO INTO THE OTHER

[19.  Department of Government Efficiency Update (H. Boucher)]

VOUCHER. >> HEATHER BOUCHER, COMMISSION AUDITOR. I HAVE A QUARTERLY DOGE UPDATE. AS PART OF THE BACKUP, WE HAVE A MEMO. I ALSO HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION TO GO THROUGH WITH YOU GUYS TONIGHT. AND EVERYTHING IS IN THE POWERPOINT. SO OUR FIRST SLIDE THAT WE HAVE ARE SOME COST SAVINGS THAT WE HAVE SEEN SINCE THE LAST UPDATE . THE FIRST ONE WE HAVE IS MOODY PARK DESIGN COMPLETED IN-HOUSE. SO THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE PAVEMENT DESIGN AND PERMITTING IN-HOUSE TO SAVE US $65,000, RATHER THAN HAVING OUR CONSULTING ENGINEER PERFORM THOSE SERVICES . SO THE NEXT COUPLE OF PROJECTS ARE WITHIN OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS TEAM. SO FOR OUR ANIMAL SERVICES BUILDING, WE HAVE $200,000 WORTH OF SAVINGS. AND THOSE SAVINGS ARE COMPRISED OF PURCHASING MATERIALS OURSELVES SO WE CAN SAVE ON TAXES AND SCOPE CHANGES TO USE ALTERNATE GUTTER MATERIALS. THE NEXT ONE , FOR FIRE STATIONS , WE HAVE OVER $500,000 IN SAVINGS OVER MULTIPLE FIRE STATIONS STATIONS. SOME OF THE PROJECTS THEY HAVE HAD FOR THOSE TO REALIZE THE SAVINGS INCLUDE REJECTING DESIGNS FOR BATHROOMS , FOR SCOPE CHANGES, REMOVING SIGNAL WORK THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY NEEDED AND ALSO ECONOMIES OF SCALE FOR BUNDLING SOME OF OUR BUILDING DESIGNS. THE NEXT ONE WE HAVE IS CENTRAL. WE WERE ABLE TO GET $20,000 OF SAVINGS FOR WIDENING AND EXISTING PART OF THE SIDEWALK RATHER THAN CONSTRUCTING AN ENTIRE NEW PORTION OF THE SIDEWALK. WE UTILIZE THE SIDEWALK THAT WE ALREADY HAVE TO WIDEN IT. THE NEXT ONE IS CCSO BUILDING NUMBER 500. WE WERE ABLE TO GET $135,000 WORTH OF SAVINGS BY TAKING A LOOK AT THE SCOPE AND REMOVING REDUNDANT FIRE ALARM SYSTEMS THAT WERE NOT NEEDED. SO THE NEXT ITEM IS AMBULANCE BILLING. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ARE AWARE BUT RECENTLY, WE MOVED THE AMBULANCE BUILDING PROCESS IN-HOUSE. WE USED TO USE THE VENDOR TO COLLECT ON THE AMBULANCE BILLING , BILLINGS. WE BROUGHT THAT IN-HOUSE. I LOOKED AT THAT EVALUATION AND PREVIOUSLY, WHEN WE WERE USING THE VENDOR, WE WERE COLLECTING ABOUT $407 PER TRANSPORT. AND BY BRINGING THAT IN-HOUSE, WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE OUR COLLECTIONS TO ABOUT $528 PER TRANSPORT . SO THAT IS ABOUT A 2 MILLION-DOLLAR INCREASE IN REVENUE JUST THIS YEAR SO FAR. I JUST WANT TO NOTE, BECAUSE THERE WERE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THIS, THAT IT DOESN'T MEAN THE FEES INCREASE. IT IS SIMPLY OUR COLLECTION OF THOSE FEES INCREASED. SO WE SAW THAT REVENUE GO UP. SO THE LAST ONE ON THIS SLIDE IS PERSONAL DEVICE USE POLICY. SO LAST MONTH, THE COUNTY MANAGER APPROVED AN

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PREVIOUSLY THE PROCESS WAS WHEN WE HAD AN EVENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE GIVE THE EVENT COORDINATORS AND ESTIMATE OF WHAT THE COST WILL BE FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS FOR THOSE EVENTS.

AFTER THE EVENT, WE WOULD GO COMPILE A BUNCH OF DATA WITH THE FIREFIGHTERS AND THE HR DEPARTMENT OVER THE ACTUAL HOURS WORKED AND THE ACTUAL EMPLOYEE COST FOR THOSE. AND WE GOT A BIG CALCULATION AND SEND THE EVENT CORNER A BILL AFTER THE FACT.

AND THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH THE FAIRGROUNDS WITH THE ELECTRICITY . AND TOOK THE AVERAGE COST FOR ELECTRICITY AND PUT THAT IN THE FEE SCHEDULE. SOVERY SIMILAR PROCESS. WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE AVERAGE COST FOR FIREFIGHTERS BASED ON THE LEVELS . AND WE HAVE THAT IN OUR FEES. SO UP FRONT NOW FOR THE EVENTS, WE ARE ABLE TO GIVE OUR EVENT COORDINATORS A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE FEES ARE GOING TO BE . AFTER THE FACT, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THIS BIG COORDINATED EFFORT WITH OUR FIREFIGHTERS IN OUR HR DEPARTMENT TO COME UP WITH THAT COST OF WHAT WE ARE CHARGING FOR THESE EVENTS. THE NEXT ONE IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE PROJECTS. IT IS THE INSTALLATION OF THE SCHOOL BEGINS . SO WE INSTALLED, ON THE SCHOOL BEGINS, AT ALL OF THE SCHOOLS THROUGH CLAY COUNTY, A PROGRAM THAT WE CAN PROGRAM OUR SCHOOL BEGINS REMOTELY . SO PREVIOUSLY, BEFORE WE HAD THIS, EVERY SCHOOL YEAR WHEN WE HAD THE SCHOOL CALENDAR, WE WOULD HAVE TEAMS FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT GO OUT TO EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL AND THEY HAD TO MANUALLY PROGRAM THE SCHOOL CALENDAR AT EACH OF THE BEGINS. SO IT WOULD TAKE SEVERAL WEEKS AND THE SUMMER FOR SEVERAL OF OUR EMPLOYEES. NOW WITH THE BEGINS, WE CAN DO IT ALL REMOTELY. SO THEY WERE TELLING ME THAT IT IS GOING TO TAKE TWO HOURS OF THEIR TIME EVERY YEAR VERSUS TWO WEEKS. AND ANY UPDATES THEY HAVE IN THE SCHOOL CALENDAR, THEY CAN ALSO DO IT REALTIME AND IT WILL PROBABLY TAKE LESS THAN AN HOUR. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER LAST SCHOOL YEAR WHEN WE HAD A LOT OF HURRICANES . THEY HAD TO TAKE AWAY OUR FAIR DAY. SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SCHOOL BEGINS YET DURING THAT TIME. SO WE HAD TO, WHICH WE FOUND OUT LATE, A LOT OF THE SCHOOL BEGINS WERE NOT WORKING ON THAT FAIR DAY WHEN WE HAD SCHOOLING BECAUSE IT PREVIOUSLY WAS A DAY OFF FOR THE KIDS. NOW WHEN WE HAVE CHANGES ON THAT, WE WILL BE ABLE TO UPDATE THEM IMMEDIATELY. THAT IS A HUGE PROCESS EFFICIENCY.

>> THE NEXT ONE ON THE LIST IS THE LIBRARY STAFFING MODEL CHANGES THAT MARY PRESENTED TO THE BOARD LAST BOARD MEETING. I WON'T GO INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL ON THAT. BUT AGAIN, IT IS LOOKING AT THE PART-TIME EMPLOYEES VERSUS THE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES. THE GREAT THING ABOUT THAT IS THEY ARE ABLE TO HAVE SOME COST SAVINGS WITHOUT DECREASING OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE TO OUR CITIZENS. THE LAST ONE WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IS THE PERSONAL USE POLICY. I ALSO WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE PROCESS EFFICIENCY LIST BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, WE NO LONGER HAVE TO MANAGE THOSE UB KEYS. THAT IS A BIG TIME SAVINGS FOR OUR

EMPLOYEES. >> THE NEXT SLIDE I HAVE IS ALSO IN THE MEMO. OUTLINED IN THE MEMO. IT IS TALKING ABOUT THE

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THE NEXT FEW SLIDES GO INTO A COMMENT THAT WAS FROM OUR LAST COUPLE OF BOARD MEETINGS WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE COUNTIES AROUND FLORIDA THAT HAVE DOGE COMMITTEES. THE FIRST IS TALKING ABOUT WHAT OUR EFFORTS HAVE BEEN SO FAR. CLAY COUNTY EFFICIENCY EFFORTS ARE CURRENT LEVEL. AND WE ARE DOING BROAD AND INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS AT THE ACM LEVEL. THAT IS OBVIOUSLY TRICKLING DOWN TO ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES. AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THE LIST OF COST SAVINGS AND EFFICIENCIES WE HAD SINCE LAST TIME THAT I BRIEFED. CONTINUINGQUARTERLY REPORTING TO THE BCC AS I'M DOING TONIGHT. WE ALSO CREATED A WEBSITE THAT

TERESA WILL PULL UP HER US. . >> THE WEBSITE, IT JUST KIND OF DETAILS EVERYTHING WE HAVE HAD DONE SO FAR ON THE DOGE FRONT.

IT HAS THE DATES THAT WE HAVE DONE ALL OF OUR SUBMISSIONS TO THE FLORIDA EOG DOGE TEAM. IT HAS THE RESOLUTION. IT HAS THE PREVIOUS REPORT TO THE BOARD AND ANYTHING WE HAVE DONE AS FAR AS DOGE EFFORTS. THE NEXT FEW SLIDES OUTLINE WHAT SOME OF THE COUNTIES ARE WE HAVE SPOKEN TO. THE FIRST COUNTY WE SPOKE TO WAS NASSAU COUNTY. THEY ARE PRETTY SIMILAR TO WHAT OUR LEVEL IS RIGHT NOW. SO THEY ALSO HAVE A DOGE WEBSITE THAT THEY CREATED THE SAME THING. IT OUTLINES WHAT THEY HAVE DONE SO FAR WITH DOGE, INCLUDING THE FLORIDA EOG FLORIDA DOGE SUBMISSIONS. WHEN WE SPOKE WITH THEM, THEIR STANCE ON THE DOGE TEAM IS THAT THE ECC AND THE STAFF OF ALWAYS WORKED AS A DOGE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE INTERNAL DOGE TEAM. ON THE SLIDE, I ALSO HAVE LISTED OTHER COUNTIES AROUND FLORIDA THAT HAVE ADOPTED DOGE RESOLUTIONS SIMILAR TO OURS. SO THE NEXT COUNTY WE SPOKE WITH WAS HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION WITH BRANDON WEGNER AT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. HE IS LEADING THE DOGE LIAISON COMMITTEE THERE. SOME OF THIS WE SPOKE ABOUT LAST BOARD MEETING. THEY HAVE A FIVE-MEMBER CITIZEN COMMITTEE TO ENGAGE WITH THE FLORIDA EOG DOGE TEAM . SOTHEREFORE -- THEIR CRITERIA WAS BASED ON EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE. THEY WERE APPOINTED BY THE BOARD. SO , AGAIN, THEY ARE PUT INTO PLACE TO BE A LIAISON WITH THE FLORIDA EOG DOGE TEAM. THEY WILL BE LOOKING AT THE DOCUMENTATION THAT THE FLORIDA DOGE TEAM HAS REQUESTED AN HILLSBOROUGH HAS THEIR REVIEW. IT IS PROBABLY OVER NOW BUT THEY HAD IT YESTERDAY AND TODAY. THE REVIEW WITH THE STATE EOG DOGE TEAM. WHAT THE LIAISON COMMITTEE IS -- JUST INTERACTING WITH THE FLORIDA DOGE TEAM AND LOOKING AT THE DOCUMENTATION THEY HAVE REQUESTED. AS OF RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE NOT, AND THEY ARE NOT HAVING THEIR OWN AUDITS AND REQUESTING THEIR OWN DOCUMENTATION. THEY ARE PLANNING TO MEET MONTHLY . THEY HAVE ONLY HAD ONE MEETING SO FAR. THEY HAVE A ONE-YEAR TERM AND MANATEE COUNTY HAS A VERY SIMILAR DOGE LIAISON COMMITTEE COMPOSITION THAT HILLSBOROUGH HAS. OUR LAST COUNTY THAT WE TOOK A LOOK AT WAS HERNANDO COUNTY. SO WE SPOKE

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QUESTIONS ? >> WE RESPONDED TO FLORIDA DOGE OF 21 JULY. WHATWAS THEIR RESPONSE TO OUR RESPONSE?

>> WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY RESPONSE FROM THEM .

>> NO RESPONSE IS GOOD NEWS? >> SO FAR, IT IS.

>> I FORGET WHAT SLIDE NUMBER IT IS. WE TALKED ABOUT CENTRALIZED PURCHASING OF HIGH-VOLUME ITEMS. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

>> I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT, SIR, SINCE THAT WAS YOUR RECOMMENDATION. THAT WAS OUR PROPOSED NEXT STEPS FOR THE DOGE COMMITTEE. WE ARE PROPOSING THAT WE HAVE FOCUSED ON REVIEWS ON TARGETED AREAS . SOMEOF THE THINGS THEY HAVE SPOKEN TO ABOUT PREVIOUSLY AND SOME OF THE BOARD MEETINGS, SUCH AS GROUNDS MAINTENANCE AND CELL PHONE BILLS , AND I THINK IT WAS BROUGHT UP ON THE BOARD FLOOR ABOUT CENTRALIZING PURCHASING OF HIGH-VOLUME ITEMS SUCH AS PRINTER PAPER WORK EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY . ALL DEPARTMENTS AND ALL CONSTITUTIONALS, WE ALL USE PRINTER PAPER. IF WE CAN SOMEHOW GET COST SAVINGS BY HAVING ONE CENTRAL PLACE AND ORDERING THAT TYPE OF -- ITEMS.

>> TO ME PERSONALLY, NOT KNOWING THE SYSTEM, THAT SHOULD BE EASY TO DO. IF WE HAVE PURCHASING OFFICERS SITTING THERE -- THE SUPERVISOR ELECTION BROUGHT THAT UP IN THE MEETING. THAT HE WILL BUY PAPER LITTLE BOLD. WE BUY PAPER BIG BULK. SO I DON'T WE ALL LIVE AND BE HAPPY TOGETHER ? I GUESS THE TRANSFER OF MONEY, WOULD THAT BE HARD? TO ME, YOU COULD DO THAT TOMORROW MORNING.

IF I WERE THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION AND I WANTED 10 BOXES OF PAPER, I THINK THERE WOULD BE A PROCESS FAR -- FOR ME TO GET

THAT FROM THE COUNTY. >> THAT IS WHAT THE ERP DOES .

THE -- I AGREE WITH YOU. HOSPITALS HAVE BUYING GROUPS TO GET BETTER PRICING BY COMBINING ALL THE PURCHASES. IKNOW THAT AT LEAST MEDICAL SUPPLIES, WHICH IS THE WORLD I LIVE IN OUTSIDE OF THIS JOB , IN MY OTHER JOB, IS LIKE CARDINAL HEALTH. THEY HAVE A WEBSITE THAT MEDICAL DEVICE COMPANIES THAT ARE MEMBERS OF IT CAN GO ON AND PURCHASE THEIR ITEMS . AND IT IS ALL APPROVED THEIR PURCHASING. THERE IS NOTHING ON THERE THAT IS NOT AN APPROVED ITEM. SO YOU CAN'T GO WHEN JUST BUY ANYTHING

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>> THERE ARE SOME OF THESE EFFORTS THAT ARE REALLY EASIER

THAN OTHERS. AND NOT SO EASY. >> WE HAVE AGREEMENTS FOR FUEL .

>> WE HAVE AGREEMENTS ALREADY? >> YES.

>> WE HAVE DONE SOME OF THIS ALREADY. MY TWO CENTS.

>> THAT IS GOOD INPUT. OTHERS ? >> HEATHER, DID I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY THAT WITH HERNANDO COUNTY -- I SEE THAT THEY HAVE ALL THE RED TAPE. AS FAR AS ACCESS TO DATA. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD. DID YOU SAY ALL INFORMATION REQUESTED

BECOMES PUBLICLY DISCLOSED? >> SO THE NINE-MEMBER TEAM , THE DOGE TEAM, CAN REQUEST ANY INFORMATION. THAT WAS ANOTHER THING YOU SAID. THEY HAVE UNRESTRICTED ACCESS TO DATA.

ALLTHE DATA , NO MATTER WHAT THEY FIND TO BE -- I DON'T KNOW. I'M TRYING TO BE POLISHED HERE.

>> I HAVE AN EXAMPLE. IF YOU GO LOOK THROUGH THE MEETING MINUTES , BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE MEETING MINUTES ON THE WEBSITE . LIKE I SAID, ALL THE INFORMATION. ONE OF THE THINGS THEY WERE ASKING ABOUT WORK PURCHASING CARDS. DURING THE MEETING, THEY WERE ASKING , WHAT TYPE OF LIMITS TO EMPLOYEES HAVE ? WHAT DO THEY PURCHASE WITH THE P CARDS. WHATCAN THEY PURCHASE AND WHAT CAN THEY NOT PURCHASE ? FOR THAT CONVERSATION, THAT BECAME ONE OF THE REQUEST. THAT INFORMATION. SO WHAT EVERY EMPLOYEE THAT HAS A P CARD, WHAT THEIR LIMITS ARE AND WHAT THEIR PURCHASES ARE ARE NOW ON THE WEBSITE. WHEN WE SPOKE WITH JEFF , I THINK ONE OF -- I THINK THERE WERE A FEW REASONS WHY THEY DID IT THIS WAY. I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS HE SAID WAS, YES, THEY HAVE THIS NINE-MEMBER COMMITTEE BUT ALSO, THEY HAVE A WHOLE COUNTY WORTH OF PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT THIS XO THAT WAS ANOTHER REASON WHY THEY PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE, FOR EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT. THAT MAYBE THOSE OTHER 21 PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T GET SELECTED BY THE LOTTERY , IF THEY WANT TO LOOK AT IT, THEY COULD GO THERE AND LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTATION .

>> IT IS AN AUTOMATIC DISCLOSURE .

>> YES. >> THAT IS EARLY WHAT I WANTED

TO KNOW. THANK YOU. >> OTHERS ?

>> MADAM CHAIR -- AND I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. TALKING WITH THE CLERK, ON OUR WEBSITE, I'M ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO PUT A LINK TO HER WEBSITE ON BOTH IG , 1-800, AND AUDITS. AND IF IT IS OKAY -- LAURA ASKED ALREADY TO MARY. WE WOULD LIKE TO GET PERMISSION TO PUT THAT AT THE BOTTOM. SO TO SHOW THE WEBSITE ON WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND SHOWS US ANOTHER CHECK AND BALANCE WE

HAVE . >> ANYONE HAVE ANY INPUT?

>> I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA. I TALKED EARLIER WITH THE CLERK TODAY. WE HAVE THE IG'S OFFICE. THEY ARE DOING AUDITS. SOME OF THE AUDITS MAY YIELD MORE EFFICIENCIES THAN OTHERS . AND SO THE OPPORTUNITIES COULD COME FROM THEM JUST DOING THE REGULAR

JOB. >> THE AMENDMENT 10 GOVERNANCE.

IF YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH AMENDMENT 10, IT IS A STATE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT FROM SIX YEARS AGO OR SO. IT WAS EFFECTIVE IN 2020. SO FIVE YEARS AGO. THAT SEPARATES THE FINANCIALS FROM THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND PUTS IT UNDER THE CLERK OF THE COURT. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THAT IDEA. THEY GAVE MORE WORK TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND THE IG'S OFFICE DOES AUDITING FUNCTIONS AS WELL AS THEY HAVE A SEPARATE GROUP THAT DOES FINANCE AND PAYS OUR WILLS. AT ANY RATE, I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA AND WE WILL GET EFFICIENCIES OUT OF

THAT. >> IF I CAN ADD TO THAT. WHEN WE TRANSITIONED THE FINANCE DUTIES OVER, WE RECOGNIZED -- WE HAVE SOME FORMALITIES AS FAR AS PRE-AND POST AUDITS. MOST OF

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THAT ARE MADE. . >> ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS THAT IT TURNS OUT NONE OF THESE COMMITTEES WERE WHAT I THOUGHT THE ONE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMMISSIONER TALKED ABOUT WHEN SHE TOLD US ABOUT IT . SO I GUESS I WOULD RATHER GO BACK AND CHEW ON KIND OF WHAT HEATHER HAS PRESENTED TO US AND DECIDE IF WE WANT TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF DIFFERENT MODEL. IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AND WE CAN DISCUSS IT AGAIN AT THE NEXT MEETING IF WE WANT TO CREATE -- WE HAD SOME DIFFERENT MODELS TO LOOK AT IF WE WANT TO CREATE A COMMITTEE OF OUR OWN AND WHAT DO WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE AND ACCOMPLISH? IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE NONE OF THIS. THAT IS WHAT I WAS PICTURING IN MY HEAD. I WAS PICTURING CITIZENS THAT WORK IN PRIVATE INDUSTRY AND TARGETED THINGS LIKE IT OR MAYBE IN PURCHASING OR HUMAN RESOURCES AND THINGS THAT COULD COME IN AND ACTUALLY GIVE EFFICIENT GUIDANCE TO THE COUNTY. FOR HERNANDO COUNTY, IT LOOKS LIKE THE COMMITTEE HAS MADE A LOT MORE WORK. AND I'M ALL ABOUT EFFICIENCY OR TRANSPARENCY FOR THE PUBLIC. I WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHATEVER THEY WANT TO. BUT THAT IS A LOT OF WORK SO NOBODY HAS TO GO THROUGH REJECTING THINGS THAT CANNOT BE SHOWN ON EMPLOYEE RECORDS. I DON'T THINK ANYONE IN TALLAHASSEE'S INTENTION HERE IS TO MAKE MORE WORK. THAT IS CERTAINLY NOT EFFICIENT.

THOSEARE MY THOUGHTS. ANY OTHERS?

>> MADAM CHAIR, I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT, I THINK ONE THING I HAVE LEARNED THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS, BACK WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO IS, A LOT OF THIS STARTS WITH LEADERSHIP. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO COMMEND HOWARD IN THE COUNTY MANAGER FOR, THROUGH MY ANALYSIS OF WORKING WITH STAFF AND BEING WITH THE COUNTY STAFF THE PAST NINE MONTHS IS, HE IS CREATING A CULTURE OF EFFICIENCIES AND A CULTURE OF DOGE. LIKE THIS IS OUR GOAL OF HOW WE WILL SPEND TAXPAYER MONEY . ITHINK, HOWARD, KEEP YOUR FOOT ON THE GAS WITH THAT. I THINK YOU HAVE SET A GOOD COURSE WITH THE STAFF. THE SECOND THING IS, THESE UPDATES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT. I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP SEEING THIS WITH STAFF UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS THE GOAL. THE GOAL IS THAT HEATHER SHOULD HAVE A LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS THAT WE CAN PROVE TANGIBLY THAT WE ARE BECOMING MORE EFFICIENT. AND I THINK ALL OF US AS COMMISSIONERS, THAT IS PART OF BEING A GOOD COMMISSIONER. WE HAVE HAD GREAT CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS. I THINK ALL OF US ASKED REALLY TOUGH QUESTIONS THAT HOLD THE STAFF ACCOUNTABLE TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. SO THROUGH WHAT YOU JUST SAID ABOUT THE COMMITTEES, THE THING THAT I AM VERY CAUTIOUS OF IS , BEING SO FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE SO TO SPEAK THAT YOU THEN BECOME FISCALLY ON RESPONSIBLE . AND NOW IT IS KIND OF IRONIC THAT YOU TRY TO DO SO MUCH DOGE -ING

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NONETHELESS, I THINK WE ARE ON THE RIGHT PATH. THE PATH WE ARE ON THE WITH THE REPORTS AND CONTINUING TO DO OUR JOBS AS YOU GUYS ARE DOING, I THINK WE ARE ON A GOOD PATH.

>> COMMISSIONER, I DO HAVE A LAUNDRY LIST OF ITEMS. I PICK THE BIG ONES AND EXCITING WAS TO PUT IN MY REPORT. I DEFINITELY HAVE TWICE IF NOT THREE TIMES AS MANY THAT STAFF HAS GIVEN ME TO PUT IN MY REPORT. DEFINITELY NOT ALL OF THEM.

>> I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO HERE.

>> I THINK ONE OF THE MISCONCEPTIONS IS THAT IT IS NOT LIKE THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHERE YOU JUST FIND THE BEST PRICE AND YOU BUY IT. THERE A LOT OF PROTOCOLS AND PROCEDURES . AND IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, IT MAKES THINGS DIFFERENT. SO BEING ABLE TO ELOQUENTLY TELL THE PUBLIC, THIS IS WHERE WE STARTED BUT THIS IS WHERE REFINISHED, BY DOING OUR BEST. AND IT GIVES THEN THE UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THIS WORKS IN THE GOVERNMENT

SIDE. >> THANK YOU.

[21.  First Public Hearing to consider ZON 25-0008 (J. Bryla)]

>> THANK YOU, HEATHER. >> WE ARE PAST THE 5:00 TIME INAUDIBLE ] SO WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 21. THIS IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ZONE 25-0008. AND IT SAYS THIS ITEM WAS CONTINUED FROM THE JUNE 3RD MEETING . THIS APPLICATION

HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN AT THIS TIME. >> SO I DON'T DO ANYTHING QUICK

[22.  Final Public Hearing to consider ZON 24-0033 (District 3, Comm. Renninger) (J. Bryla)]

>> USE ONLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY ARE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP

YOU GOD? >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. AS THIS IS THE THIRD TIME THIS HAS COME BEFORE THE BOARD, I WASN'T PLANNING ON DOING A PRESENTATION UNLESS YOU WANTED TO SEE IT AGAIN. BUT WE DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH COMMISSIONER RENNINGER ON IT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT IT.

>> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JENNY OR DESIRE TO

SEE THE PRESENTATION AGAIN ? >> JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORIES , THE REAL ISSUE WAS INGRESS AND EGRESS. THERE IS A PRIVATE DRIVE THAT WASN'T OWNED BY THE DEVELOPER. ON THE DRIVE ARE EVERY SORT OF DWELLING YOU CAN IMAGINE. SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, CONDOS AND APARTMENTS AND TOWNHOMES. SO DUMPSTER ACCESS .

MY CONCERN WAS, DEVELOPING 54 NEW DWELLING UNITS . AND HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT THOSE NEIGHBORS . AND SO WE PUT A FULL COURT PRESS IN, ENGAGING THE NEIGHBORS TO MAKE SURE WE WILL ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS. I THINK THERE IS A CARWASH OR CARWASH RACK HERE TOO. IT IS A SHORT 200-YARD DRIVE. IT IS NOT A VERY LONG, PRIVATE ROAD. THE DEVELOPER PURCHASED THE DRIVE FROM THE OWNER WHICH WAS UP NORTH SOMEWHERE . AND ENGAGED ALL OF THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA. AND SOME CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL MOVE FORWARD AND I'M SURE I WILL GET SOME PHONE CALLS BUT I WILL GET FEWER PHONE CALLS THAN I WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE.

>> UNLESS THERE IS SOME QUESTION, --

>> I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM ? QUESTIONSFOR THE AGENT ?

>> SEEING NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK FOR ACTION.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING CHANGE 24 0033 .

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND . ANY

FURTHER DISCUSSION ? >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, INDICATE

BY SAYING AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED ? MOTION

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CARRIES 5-0 . >> THANK YOU.

>> CONGRATULATIONS . >> YOU DID YOUR TIME.

[23.  Construction Manager at Risk (CMAR) presentations (K. Smith)]

>> NEXT THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK PRESENTATIONS. THIS IS REGARDING THE RF WE CAP 24/25-074 FOR THE OAKLEAF

LIBRARY. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. TODAY, WE ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE TOP THREE RANKED CONTRACTORS FOR THE OAKLEY -- OAK LEAF LIBRARY. WE HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL PROPOSALS.

AS A REMINDER AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING, THE DECISION WAS MADE TO BRING THE TOP THREE BACK FOR PRESENTATIONS . WAY WE TYPICALLY DO THIS IS IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER . WE WILL LET THEM PRESENT AND WE ALSO HAVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.

>> WITH THAT, WE CAN HAVE YVONNE RIVERS COME UP FIRST.

>> ARE YOU READY? >> GOOD AFTERNOON. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU GUYS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT TO YOU GUYS. WE ARE VERY EXCITED FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. A QUICK INTRODUCTION TO OUR COMPANY. WE ARE YVONNE RIVERS. PROBABLY RACED AT CLAY COUNTY AT ORANGE PARK. WE HAVE BEEN DOING BUSINESS NOW FOR 49 YEARS. WE ARE COMING UP ON THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY IN ABOUT A MONTH, IN SEPTEMBER. SO THAT IS REALLY AWESOME. WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH PUBLIC AND GOVERNMENT ENTITIES. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, 95% OF THE WORK HAS BEEN WITH PUBLIC AND GOVERNMENT ENTITIES. WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH DOING CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT JOBS. WE HAVE BEEN DOING THEM NOW FOR OVER 20 YEARS WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES. ASYOU CAN SEE, THEY ARE ON THE SCREEN. SUCH AS DUVAL COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, CLAY COUNTY DISTRICT SCHOOLS, UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA , ET CETERA. WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I DO WANT TO INTRODUCE OUR TEAM WHICH , WE HAVE SEVERAL OF US HERE TODAY. WE HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS WHO IS BEHIND ME . NOT HERE WITH US, WE HAVE OUR CONSTRUCTION DIRECTOR, YVONNE RIVERS AND OUR ESTIMATOR, ARIEL.

I'M STEPHEN RIVERS. AND PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION TEAM., PROJECT MANAGER AND WE HAVE HAVE THE SUPERINTENDENT, MARK BRANCH AND THE GENERAL SUPERINTENDENT, PAUL ORY. AND THIS IS THE HAVE FOR THE PROJECT. WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO PAUL TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT APPROACH.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M PAULA REID. THE TEAM YOU SEE HERE TODAY HAS BEEN WORKING TOGETHER FOR OVER EIGHT YEARS ON THE PROJECTS. WE WILL BE WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS PROJECT. SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE WORK ON ARE THREE-STORY TILT UP BUILDING WITH A RESIDENTIAL AND FULL KITCHEN AND DINING AREA. THE SECOND ONE WAS THE VENTRICLE TEMPLE CHURCH WHERE WE DID IN ADDITION ON TO THE FOYER AND A NEW ENTRANCE INTO THE BUILDING AND THE COFFEE SHOP AND A NEW CHAPEL. THE THIRD ONE WAS AT CLAY COUNTY UTILITY AUTHORITY.

WE DID SUPPLY MAINTENANCE BUILDING AND DID A RENOVATION ON THE EXISTING MAINTENANCE BUILDING BRINGING FIRE SUPPRESSION UP TO CODE THE FOURTH ONE, WE DID FOR CAROLINA MIDDLE SCHOOL. WE DID AN AUDITORIUM WITH WITH THE PERFORMING ARTS. WE DID A JOB FOR THE NATIONAL GUARD . THAT WAS A 6000 SQUARE-FOOT MAINTENANCE FOR LARGE EQUIPMENT . ANDHEAVY TRUCKS WITH 6000, OR 7000-POUND CRANE. WEEDEDAND FOUR THOUSANDS SQUARE-FOOT RENOVATION IN THE EXISTING BUILDING WITH OFFICES . WE ARE NOW CURRENTLY WORKING AT CLAY COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICE CENTER WHICH IS A 30-ACRE SITE. 32,000 SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING WITH -- FOR HOUSING DOGS AND ADOPTION AND SURGERY. AND WE ARE CURRENTLY TWO MONTHS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE ON THAT PROJECT. THANK YOU.

>> MY NAME IS MORGAN YOUNG., THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM HERE.

QUICKLY GOING INTO THE PROJECT APPROACH, WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A CNAR PROJECT. WITH THAT, WE GET TO PROVIDE THE PRECONSTRUCTION SERVICES. WHAT THAT INCLUDES IS BUDGETS ESTIMATING COME WHAT WE

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IKNOW THIS IS THE LIBRARY. BUT IF YOU DO VALUE ENGINEERING ON AN OFFICE OR YOU DO IT ON A LIBRARY OR IF YOU DO IT ON AN ANIMAL SHELTER, IT IS ALL THE SAME. WE DO THE SAME PROCESS.

REALLY, WHERE YOU SAVE MONEY IS IN THE INITIAL DESIGN DEVELOPMENT OF THE BUILDING. AND THE SHELL OF THE BUILDING IS WHERE YOU SAVE A LOT OF YOUR MONEY. AND SO WE HAVE BEEN IN THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER. WE HAVE SAVED A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY. IF WE ARE ABLE TO COME IN AT THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PHASE , WE WILL BE ABLE TO SAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT MORE . NEXT TIME WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION ACCOMMODATIONS. WITH US, WE WILL -- THIS IS METHODS, PROJECTS, BILLABILITY AND ET CETERA. WE WILL ALSO GET WITH THE COUNTY ON WAYS WE CAN ALL SAVE MONEY AND IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS LANDSCAPING . WE CAN PROVIDE FLORIDA NATIVE PLANTS AND THIS WILL CUT DOWN ON THE MAINTENANCE BUDGET FOR FUTURE YEARS. NOT ONLY IS IT IMPORTANT THAT WE SAVE MONEY IN THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE, BUT LOOKING AHEAD, WE CAN SAVE MONEY AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL. WEWILL PROVIDE ALL THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. ANOTHER THING WE PROVIDE IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS WE CAN DO CLASH DETECTION AND SEE WHERE THERE ARE ANY ERRORS AND WE CAN SOLVE THOSE IN THE DESIGN PHASE WHICH WILL MITIGATE CHANGE ORDERS LATER ON IN THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE. WE ALSO PROVIDE THE MASTER PROJECT SCHEDULE. THIS, WE CAN COST LOAD FOR YOU. WE HAVE DONE THIS WITH ANIMAL SHELTER. I KNOW IT IS USEFUL IN YOUR BUDGETS. WE CAN PROVIDE THAT ON THE DRAWDOWN SCHEDULE, ET CETERA. THESE ARE PROJECT MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE LISTED. THESE JUST SHOW HOW WE WILL MANAGE THE PROJECT. HOW WE WILL BE COST-EFFECTIVE.

HOW WE WILL STAY ON SCHEDULE AND UNDER BUDGET. ET CETERA. AND SO THESE SHOW ALL OF OUR EFFECTIVE SYSTEMS THAT PROVE THAT WE CAN

DO ALL OF THAT. >> I'M GINGER RIVERS. I WANT TO EXPAND ON WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT FOR VALUE ON THE JOB. WE HAVE LISTENED TO THE COUNTY ON THE PREVIOUS MEETING ABOUT THE LIBRARY. THE THING YOU ARE THE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE BUDGET. WE WANT A GOOD LIBRARY ON BUDGET, UNDER COST. I WANT TO USE AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING WE ARE DOING FOR YOU NOW. WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND WHAT WE CAN DO. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING DOING OR YOU CURRENTLY. WE ARE BUILDING THE CLAY COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES BUILDING. IT WAS A HARD GET. WE GOT THE CONTRACT. WE HAVE THE VALUE ENGINEER PROJECT.

WHEN WE DID THE RFQ, WE WERE AT LIKE $430,000 OF SAVINGS. SINCE THEN, WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL SAVINGS AND ROUTING AS A CHANGE ORDER. AND IT IS OVER $400,000. SO THE NEXT BUDGET MEETING, IT WILL PROBABLY SHOW WHAT. IT WILL BE AT $835,000 OF COST SAVINGS AFTER WE STARTED CONSTRUCTION. THAT IS A BIG VALUE FOR THE COUNTY. ANOTHER THING WE DO IS COMPETITIVE BIDDING. WE USELOCAL SUBS . DETRIMENT IS AMOUNT OF OUR SUCCESS IS WITH LOCAL CLAY COUNTY SUBS. WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE ANIMAL SERVICES BUILDING BECAUSE WE HAVE A LONG RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SUBS IN THIS AREA. AND THEY WANTED THIS JOB AND THEY WORKED WITH US TO GET THE JOB. AND THAT IS WHAT WE DID. ANOTHER ITEM IS THE SALES TAX SAVINGS WITH THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES. CURRENTLY, WE ARE SAVING ABOUT $370,000 IN SALES TAX SAVINGS AND WE ARE NOT DONE. WE HAVE ANOTHER ROUND OF DIRECT PURCHASE ORDERS COMING.

SO TODAY, WE HAVE SAVED THE COUNTY 1.2 MILLION DOLLARS ON THE PROJECT. WE ARE EFFICIENT AND WE ARE COST-EFFECTIVE. WE HAVE TWO LIBRARIES WE SHOWED YOU THAT WE PREVIOUSLY BUILT. THE FIRST ONE IS FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THE MAIN LIBRARY. 28,000 SQUARE-FOOT. IT WAS BUILT ON BUDGET . THE NEXT ONE IS FOR THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE. NORTHWEST QUADRANT LIBRARY. 28,000SQUARE FEET . THEY DID TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SAVINGS AND WE HIT 30,000 % OF THE BUYOUT FOR THAT PROJECT. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CLAY COUNTY EXPERIENCE. WEDO HAVE LOCAL PREFERENCE. WE HAVE BEEN IN CLAY COUNTY. WE ARE COMING OFF 50 YEARS . THE WHOLE TEAM WAS RAISED HERE AND EDUCATED HERE. WE ALL WANT TO CLAY HIGH AND MIDDLEBURG AND ST. JOHNS. WE ALL WENT TO CLAY COUNTY. OUR FAMILIES ARE HERE AND OUR BUSINESSES HERE. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A JOB WE DID AT THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE A FEW

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>> THANK YOU. >> ARE THERE QUESTIONS?

>> COMMISSIONER SGROMOLO. >> THE 28,000 SQUARE-FOOT LIBRARY, WHAT YEAR WAS IT BUILT AND WHAT YEAR -- WHAT DID IT

COST? >> I DON'T HAVE THE STATS IN

FRONT OF ME. >> SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

>> THAT'S OKAY. WE HAVE IT IN THE RFQ. I CANNOT REMEMBER WHAT THE COST IS. OBVIOUSLY IT WAS AT LEAST 10 YEARS AGO. AND IT WAS

CHEAP. IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. >> THE SECOND QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED THE 30% DIRECT BUYOUT A COUPLE OF TIMES. X LINE HOW

THAT WORKS. >> OKAY. WHEN YOU BUILD THE PROJECT, WHAT WE ARE SHOOTING FOR IS THE MATERIALS ON THE PROJECT. YOU CAN BUY DIRECT. YOU CAN'T DO LABOR BUT YOU CAN PAY FOR ALL THE MATERIALS. WHAT WE SIT DOWN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT WITHIN WE ARE SHOOTING FOR IS 30%. THAT WILL GIVE YOU REALLY GOOD COST SAVINGS. WE SIT DOWN WITH SUBCONTRACTORS AND WE MAKE THEM ANYTHING OVER A CERTAIN PRICE POINT. LIKE $5000 THAT WE WANT THE COUNTY TO BUY. BECAUSE IT IS A DIRECT SAVINGS. 6% PLUS $75 FOR EVERY ORDER WE HAVE. WE HAVE A BUNCH COMING UP. WE HIT $370,000 ON THIS JOB. WE ARE GOING TO DO A LOT MORE BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER WHOLE ROUND COMING. THERE ARE WAYS BESIDES JUST THE INITIAL, TO GET YOU THERE. THE SUBS HAVE BEEN GOOD TOO. WE HAVE CLAY COUNTY SUBS.

THE REASON YOU ARE GETTING THE SAVINGS ON THIS JOB AFTER THE FACT IS YOU ARE COMING TO US AND SAYING, YOU CAN SAVE MONEY ON THIS PRODUCT . IF THE COUNTY IS OPEN TO TAKING SALES-TAX . NOT THE SALES BUT THE COST SAVINGS. AND THEY HAVE THAT. WE HAVE PRESENTED IT AND YOU HAVE TAKEN IT.

>> THANK YOU . >> OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> I HAVE ONE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. APPRECIATE THAT. THE BIGGEST DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN YOU AND THE OTHER TWO CAME DOWN TO SIMILAR PROJECTS AND REFERENCES. I KNOW YOU HAVE SPOKEN A LITTLE BIT ALREADY ABOUT THE SUMMARY OF CHANGE ORDERS ALSO, YOU ARE BEING GRADED ON THE SIZE OF PROJECTS AND WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO US TODAY IS NOT A ONE, TO ONE. I GUESS I'M LOOKING FOR SOME EXPERIENCE . SPECIFICALLY, WITH EVONN E RIVERS. IT WAS THIS CATEGORY THAT REALLY HURT YOUR SCORES. ANDWONDERING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE SIZE.

OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE ROUGHLY 11,000 SQUARE FEET WITH THAT

BUDGET CONSTRAINT. >> FORT CAROLINE WAS THE SAME SIZE. THE JOB WE ARE DOING FOR YOU NOW IS DOUBLE THE SIZE. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER SOME OF THESE JOBS, AFTER FOUR YEARS PRIOR TO THIS, THE COST JUMPED GENETICALLY . SO WHAT YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. THIS TYPE AND SIZE OF A JOB IS OUR WHEELHOUSE. THIS IS WHY WE ARE COMPETITIVE.

THIS IS WHY WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE ANIMAL SHELTER. IT IS THAT SIZE PROJECTWE LIVE ON. FORT CAROLINE WAS ABOUT THE SAME SIZE. NEWS HAVEN WAS A LOT BIGGER THAN THIS. BUT THE PRICE

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ARE THE MOST EFFECTIVE . >> THANK YOU.

>> OTHER QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> AT THIS TIME, THE PAST SCHOOL COMPANY WILL PRESENT. --

HASKELL COMPANY WILL PRESENT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. ON BEHALF OF THE COMPANY AND THE OVER 50 EMPLOYEES AND TEAM MEMBERS THAT CALL CLAY COUNTY AND OAK LEAF COMMUNITY HOME, I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND OUR APPRECIATION FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE OUR PRESENTATION ON THIS VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT. MY NAME IS JOHN ALBRO. I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF LEADING THE MINISTER PULLED DIVISION. WE HANDLE ALL THE PUBLIC CONTRACTS AND COMMUNITY-BASED PROJECTS . I PROVIDE EXECUTIVE LEVEL SUPPORT TO THE TEAM. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT I'M RESPONSIBLE TO LOVE WORLD -- LEVERAGE ALL OF THE HASKELL IN THE PROJECT TO EXCEED EXPECTATIONS. MORE IMPORTANT, I SERVE AS A LIAISON TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE COUNTY STAFF THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT TO MAKE SURE OPEN LINES OF COMMUNICATION ARE REMAINING OPEN AND THE PROJECT'S IS EXCEEDING EXPECTATIONS. WITH ME TODAY, YOU WILL SEE THE PROJECT TEAM LEADERS. JOHN PETERS AS WELL AS TIM LEHMAN AND THEY WILL HAVE MORE TO SPEAK ON LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. WE CREATE THINGS THAT MATTER. THAT IS IMPORTANT TO US AT HASKELL. WE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE WORK WE DO AND THE COMMUNITIES WE DO THE WORK. YOU WILL SEE FROM OUR RESUME THAT WE HAVE MANY FACILITIES. LIBRARIES AND COMMUNITY CENTERS AND COLLABORATION SPACES. WE BRING THE EXPERTISE TO BEAR ON THIS PROJECT TO MAKE SURE THAT EXPECTATIONS ARE BEING MET AND THE BUDGET IS MAINTAINED AND THE SCHEDULE IS BEING IMPROVED UPON. YOU WILL HEAR FROM THREE BUILDERS DURING THE SESSION. EVERYONE OF US WENT TO THE QUALIFICATION PROCESS AND WE ARE EQUALLY CAPABLE OF BUILDING THIS PROJECT. NO QUALMS ABOUT THAT. WE FEEL OUR KEY DIFFERENTIATING FACTORS ARE, THE PROCESS WE DEVELOPED OVER 60 YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION MANAGER PROJECT EXECUTION. THAT IS THE WORK THAT TAKES PLACE LEADING UP TO THE INITIAL MOBILIZATION OF CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES. OVER 60 YEARS, WE WERE FIND A PROCESS OR RESERVE OUR CUSTOMERS AND COMMUNITIES AND CLIENTS WITH KEEPING BUDGET AND SCHEDULE CONTROL AT THE VERY FOREFRONT OF EVERYTHING WE DO FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS .

WEHAVE BEEN HEADQUARTERED NORTHEAST FLORIDA DURING PROJECTS AGAIN FOR OVER 60 YEARS AND WE USE THE EXPERTISE AND THOSE RELATIONSHIPS AND THE BROAD NETWORK TO LEVERAGE THE CONTRACT AND RELATIONSHIPS TO ENSURE WE ARE GETTING THE BEST VALUE FOR THE COMMUNITY. COMMUNICATION ENGAGEMENT IS ALSO A HUGE PRIORITY AND YOU WILL SEE MORE ABOUT THAT AS WE PROGRESS

THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION. . >> GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I'M TIM LEHMAN. PROJECT DIRECTOR. I WILL BE LEADING THE HASKELL TEAM AND SERVING AS YOUR MAIN POINT OF CONTACT THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO THINK OF ME MORE AS AN EXTENSION OF YOUR TEAM I WILL BE THE PROJECT CONTROLLER, IF YOU WILL. WHAT THAT MEANS IS I WILL BE TAKING THE LARGER TEAM AND KEEPING US ALL FOCUSED ON COST AND SCHEDULE THROUGHOUT THE DURATION OF THE PROJECT. IHAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE. RECENTLY COMPLETED 180 MILLION-DOLLAR JOB JUST AT THE ROAD AT CECIL FIELD. LOOKING FORWARD TO BRING THAT EXPERIENCE TO CLAY COUNTY AND SERVING THE PROJECT. WE TOOK A MORE DETAILED LOOK IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. WE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE TODAY WITH PROCUREMENT. TEN-MONTH DESIGN DURATION. WE FEEL WE CAN CUT THE CONSTRUCTION DURATION DOWN TO 12 MONTHS. WHAT THAT ALL LEADS TO IS OPENING THE LIBRARY DID 2027 AND GETTING INTO THE OAKLEAF COMMUNITY A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF

SCHEDULE. >> THE KEY TO THE BUDGET IS GETTING THAT EARLY COLLABORATION. EVONNE RIVERS TOUCHED ON IT. EARLYCOLLABORATION IS THE KEY TO THE WHOLE PROCESS. GETTING THE PRECONSTRUCTION TEAM ENGAGED DURING THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN IS WHERE WE HAVE THE MOST IMPACT YOU ARE SELECTING THE CONTRACTOR TONIGHT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND PUT US ON THE RIGHT PATH. THAT DOES WELL WITH THE TARGET DESIGN PROCESS. THE PROCESS IS SOMETHING WE DEVELOPED OVER THE 60 YEARS OF HISTORY AND SOME HAVE SERVED HASKELL AND CLIENTS VERY WELL. THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS IS ESTABLISHING A TARGET BASELINE BUDGET. JOHN AND HIS TEAM HAVE PUT TOGETHER CONCEPTUAL FOR EVERYTHING WE KNOW ABOUT THE PROJECT CURRENTLY. THE LIBRARY AND THE LOCATION AND CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS. $8 MILLION IS AN APPROPRIATE BUDGET AND IT WOULD

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BUDGET. >> GOOD EVENING. OF JONATHAN PETERS, PRECONSTRUCTION MANAGER FOR HASKELL. IF TIM IS YOUR CONTROLLER, I WANT YOU TO THINK OF ME AS YOUR PROJECT AUDITOR.

IT IS ARE SON'S ABILITY TO COLLABORATE WITH A TEAM OF DESIGNERS AND WITH THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE EVALUATING THE DESIGN EVERY STEP OF THE WAY AND PROVIDING FEEDBACK ON CONSTRUCTIBILITY ON COST-EFFECTIVENESS AND ON DIFFERENT SYSTEMS AND BUILDING STRUCTURES AND ENVELOPE SOLUTIONS EARLY IN THE PROJECT TO MAKE SURE THE DESIGN DECISION ARE ALIGNED WITH BUDGET GOALS. ONE WILL BE DO THAT VERY EFFECTIVELY IS THE CONNECTION WITH THE LOCAL MARKETPLACE IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA. YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE THAT WE HAVE A VERY ROBUST NETWORK OF SUBCONTRACT PARTNERS AND THEY ARE ABLE, WILLING AND READY TO COMMUNICATE TO US AVAILABILITY OF MATERIALS IN THE TIME OF CERTAIN EQUIPMENT AND SYSTEMS AND THINGS LIKE THE LABOR MARKET AND OFFERING VVID CONTINUOUSLY AS THE DESIGNING WALLS. IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK SETS US APART. OUR CONNECTION WITH THAT MARKETPLACE. ALL OF THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, IT'S WITH THE DELIVERY OF AN OPEN BOOK GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE PROPOSAL. WE HAVE A VERY TIME-TESTED PROCESS AT HASKELL.

IT LEVERAGES THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WE HAVE DRIVE A COMPETITIVE PROCESS THAT PUSHES INNOVATION AND COST-EFFECTIVENESS AND WE ULTIMATELY DELIVER TO YOU A GMP THAT WILL BE ON THE 8 MILLION-DOLLAR BUDGET. ONE OF THE METHODS AND TOOLS WE USE TO HELP DRIVE WHAT TIM DESCRIBED AS THE TARGET VALUE DESIGN PROCESS IS A TOOL CALLED "JOIN." IT IS AN ONLINE COLLABORATIVE PLATFORM WHERE WE CAN PROVIDE USER ACCESS TO EVERYONE ON THE COLLECTIVE PROJECT TEAM AND QUITTING THE ARCHITECT AND COUNTY MANAGERS AND ALL INTERESTED. SO THEY CAN MONITOR THE STATUS OF THE BUDGET IN REALTIME. WE LOAD UP INFORMATION INTO THE BUDGET BASED ON THE MARKET FEEDBACK WE GET AND WE CAN TREND THE COST OVER TIME RELATIVE TO THE BUDGET. AND SINCE THEN, WE TOOK AN EARLY LOOK AT THE PROJECT. WE DID DO A COST MODEL. WE BROKE IT UP INTO THE DIFFERENT SCOPES OF WORK ON THE PROJECT AND ASSOCIATED A ROUGH PERCENTAGE BASED ON THE COST OF WORK FOR EACH SCOPE. THE IMPORTANT TAKE AWAY HERE IS WE LOOK AT TARGET VALUE DESIGN AS A CONTINUOUS VALUE ENGINEERING PROCESS. VERY EARLY, WE WILL BE STUDYING THE ENVELOPE STRUCTURAL MVP SYSTEMS. THING FOR EFFICIENCIES, COST EFFICIENCIES TO THE EXPERIENCE IN CONNECTION WITH THE MARKETPLACE AND FINDING THE SAVINGS AND PUSHING THE AVAILABLE BUDGET DOLLARS INTO THE THINGS THAT MEAN THE MOST TO THE COUNTY AND TO ITS CONSTITUENTS. IT MIGHT BE PREMIUM FINISHES . IT MIGHT BE, WE WANT TO LOOK AT DOING AN IMPROVED FAÇADE OR SOMETHING VERY INVITING AND WILL GET THE COMMUNITY INTERESTED AND INTO THE BUILDING. THINGS THAT MATTER THE MOST TO THE COUNTY. WHAT YOU ARE SEEING NOW IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE JOINT TOOL IN ACTION. IS A PROJECT THAT HASKELL IS EXECUTING. THE SNAPSHOT HERE WAS AT THE 30% SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE. THE BLACK LINE SHOWS YOU THE FORECASTED COST OF THE PROJECT PICK THE BLUE LINE IS THE BUDGET. THE IDEA WITH THE USE OF THE JOINT TOOL AS WE ARE CONTINUOUSLY FINDING TOO VID AS WE ARE EVALUATING DIFFERENT SYSTEMS AND WE ARE PUSHING AND PULLING COSTS IN AND OUT OF THE BUDGET AND WE ARE FINDING THE PATH TO GET TO THE TARGETED BUDGET. WE USE THIS PROJECT EFFECTIVELY ON JUST ABOUT EVERY HASKELL PROJECT. IT IS JUST INGRAINED IN OUR PROCESS AT THIS POINT. THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, WHEN HE WENT TO THE 60% AND THE GMP, WE FOUND THE PATH TO GET TO THE BUDGET. IT WAS AN EFFECTIVE TOOL ON THAT PROJECT AND IT WILL BE AN EFFECTIVE TOOL ON THIS PROJECT AND WE WILL DELIVER ON THE 8 MILLION-DOLLAR BUDGET .

>> WE TALKED ABOUT BUDGET AND SCHEDULE ACCOUNTABILITY CONTROL.

ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT FACTOR IN THIS PROJECT IS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. WE ARE LIVING AND WORKING AMONG THE COMMUNITY. AND IT IS A PRIMARY IMPORTANCE THAT WE DO NOT DISRUPT THE WAY THEY GO ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS. COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE PROJECT S WE DO. WE DO MANY PROJECTS IN DENSELY POPULATED AREAS. COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO US BEGINS LONG BEFORE TRUCKS SHOW UP ON THE CONSTRUCTION SITE.

THAT IS TOO LATE. IT STARTS IMMEDIATELY UPON ENGAGEMENT WITH COUNTY STAFF AND WITH THE COMMISSIONERS AND WITH ALL THE COMMUNITY LEADERS. NOT JUST TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE PLANS ARE FOR THE PROJECT BUT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING INPUT. WE ARE FINDING OUT THE PRIORITIES. WE ARE UNDERSTANDING HOW WE CAN MINIMIZE IMPACT. WITH THIS IS PART AND PARCEL OF HOW WE CONDUCT OUR BUSINESS. IN FACT, WE WORK QUITE FREQUENTLY WITH INAUDIBLE ] JONES IS A TEAMING PARTNER TO HELP US WORK ON

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>> THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR HASKELL ?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. JOHN, I THINK YOU PRESENTED THIS PIECE.

THE COST MODEL , ON YOUR SECOND TO LAST PAGE. ARE WE READING THIS RIGHT THAT YOU GUYS CAME IN 2.5 MILLION OVERBUDGET?

>> THE COST VALUE INVEST WAS THE 30% PHASE. ON A PARTICULAR PROJECT. THEY STARTED WITH THE INITIAL ESTIMATE THAT WAS OVERBUDGET AND THEY DROVE THROUGH DECISION-MAKING EARLY DESIGN INPUT AND ENDED UP DRIVING THE COST OF THE PROJECT DOWN BY THE TIME THEY GOT TO THE GNP, UNDER THE BUDGET ON THAT PROJECT. SO IS JUST A SNAPSHOT IN TIME OF THAT PARTICULAR

PROJECT. >> IT CUTS OFF THE REST OF WHAT

YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT . >> IT DOESN'T.

>> ALL I SEE IS THE END OF THE LINE.

>> I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THE QUESTION SO WE COULD EXPLAIN.

>> YOUR BUDGET WAS 35 MILLION. HOW DID YOU GUYS DO?

>> THEY BROUGHT IN JUST UNDER 35 MILLION. AND IT IS IN

CONSTRUCTION. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANOTHER QUESTION FOR HASKELL . ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HAVE THE LAST CONTRACTOR COME UP AND PRESENT.

>> I'M ANDREW LESNIAK. GENERAL MANAGER OF WINTER'S JACKSONVILLE OFFICE HERE IN TOWN. AND A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON OUR COMPANY. FIRST, LET ME INTRODUCE NATHAN CARPENTER, OUR SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER AND FOR THE PROJECT. YOUHEAR FROM THEM IN A LITTLE BIT.

>> IF YOU WOULD MIND SPEAKING INTO THE MICROPHONE SO THEY CAN HEAR YOU ONLINE. THEY ARE FLASHING THE RED LIGHT AT ME.

>> BEFORE I HANDED OFF TO THEM, I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME QUICK HIGHLIGHTS OF WHO WE ARE AT WINTER. WE HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR OVER 70 YEARS. ABOUT A BILLION DOLLARS ACROSS ALL VERTICALS . I THINK WHAT REALLY SETS US APART IS NOT ONLY ARE WE CONSTRUCTION MANAGERS AND GENERAL CONTRACTORS BUT WE ALSO SELF PERFORM WORK . OUR COMPANIES ARE HERE IN TOWN DOING THE DEMOLITION ACTUALLY ON THE JAG STADIUM RIGHT NOW. THAT IS SELF PERFORMED EXPERTISE IN BOTH CIVIL AND DEMOLITION ALL THE WAY DOWN THROUGH CARPENTRY. IT GIVES US A UNIQUE ADVANTAGE ON HOW TO ENGINEER THESE PROJECTS AND HOW TO BRING THEM IN UNDER BUDGET.

YOU HEARD A LOT OF TALK ABOUT ENGAGING A SUBCONTRACTOR COMMUNITY AND WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL. I THINK HAVING SOME OF THOSE RESOURCES IN-HOUSE GIVES US A UNIQUE ADVANTAGE TO BE MORE ACCURATE IN-HOUSE WITH OUR ON BUDGETS AS WELL AS MORE EXPEDIENT AND BEING ABLE TO GET TO THE FIELD FASTER USING SOME OF OUR ON RESOURCES. OTHER FEW QUICK HIGHLIGHTS, WE PROBABLY DO 90-95% OF OUR WORK AT CMA AND SO WE ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROCESS. IWOULD SAY OF THE 400-ISH MILLION, WE ARE DOING THE SOUTHEAST DIVISION NOW AT 50% OF MORE THAT BEING MUNICIPAL EDUCATION SECTOR WORKING WITH COUNTY AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS JUST LIKE YOURSELVES. AND SO , WHY THAT IS IMPORTANT IS , MANY TIMES, ALMOST EVERY TIME, THE BUDGETS ARE NONNEGOTIABLE. SO WE UNDERSTAND THERE REALLY IS NO FLEXIBILITY THERE .

ANYTHINGANOTHER UNIQUE ASPECT WHEN WE BRING TO THE TABLE HERE IS THAT WE ALSO HAVE A 15 YEARS AGO. AND I KNOW THE DEVELOPER CAN BE A BAD WORD SOME TIME TO SOME FOLKS BUT I THINK IT HAS MADE US BETTER OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST 15 YEARS BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND. AND I SAW A CHANGE IN THE PRECONSTRUCTION DEPARTMENT ON HOW THEY APPROACH THE PROJECTS. AND WITH THE VALUE OF TOTAL COST AND WE OWN OPRY OUR OWNED BUILDINGS AND WE OWN AND ARE CHASING EVEN MORE PROPERTY IN CLAY COUNTY BECAUSE WE SEE A FUTURE . AND I THINK THAT IT REALLY GIVES US A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE AS OWNERS AND OPERATORS OF OUR BUILDING AND HOW WE CAN APPROACH THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT WITH KIND OF THE ATTITUDE AND CONCERNS IN MIND WOULD BE SIMILAR TO OURS AS

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>> MY NAME IS NATHAN CARPENTER, SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER. PRIOR TO MY TIME WITH WINTER, I WAS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE INAUDIBLE ] COLLEGE IN NORTHEAST ATLANTA. AS PART OF THAT, ONE OF THE BUILDINGS IN MY PORTFOLIO WAS AN 80,000 SQUARE-FOOT LIBRARY THAT I WATCHED OVER THOSE 10 YEARSTRANSFER FROM JUST A LARGE BUILDING THAT HOUSES A LOT OF BOOKS TO AN ACTUAL COMMUNITY LEARNING CENTER. I UNDERSTAND THE DIRECTION LIBRARIES ARE GOING THESE DAYS. SO IT IS NOT JUST THE LARGE BUILDING WITH A LOT OF BOOKS BUT IT IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO FIND RESOURCES AND NOT JUST TRUST THE RESOURCES YOU FIND ONLINE BUT ALSO HAVE GOOD RESOURCES TO GO AND ACTUALLY LEARN FROM AND BE ABLE TO GO THAT ROUTE. THAT IS THE ONE THING I DO THINK I BRING THAT YOU WON'T SEE A LOT OF CM S THAT SPENT TIME ON THE OWNER SIDE AND GO BACK TO THE CONTRACTOR SIDE. SO WHEN I LOOK AT A PROJECT, I LOOK AT TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP SO I HAVE BEEN IN THAT SEAT AND I HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE BUILDING WILL OPERATE FOR 30, 40 OR 50 YEARS AND MAKE SURE THE BUILDING WILL UNCTION FOR THE USE THAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS IT FOR AND IT'S NOT JUST SOMEONE'S BUILDING . THAT IS THE ONE THING I THINK I BRING MORE THAN ANY OTHER PROJECT MANAGER BECAUSE I HAVE SAT IN THAT FACILITY DIRECTOR'S EAT.

WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO JAMIE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT

OUR APPROACH. >> MY NAME IS JAMIE JOB WITH WINTER. I HAVE BEEN WITH WINTER FOR 26 YEARS. PRETTY MUCH THE ENTIRETY OF MY CAREER HAS BEEN WORKING WITH K THROUGH 12 LIBRARIES, PARKING DECKS, SCHOOLS. I PRETTY MUCH DONE IT ALL. BOOTS ON THE GROUND SUPERINTENDENT. NATHAN TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF MY THUNDER THERE. BUT IT IS NOT JUST A LIBRARY. IS A MEDIA CENTER. IT IS A HUB FOR THE COMMUNITY. ONE OF THE MOST REWARDING EXPERIENCES I HAVE EVER HAD MY CAREER WAS A GRAND OPENING AT THE LIBRARY. WE CUT THE RIBBON. 10 MINUTES LATER, PEOPLE CHECKING OUT BOOKS WITH KIDS AND THAT WAS LIKE THE MOST AMAZING AND SURREAL FEELING. TALKING ABOUT INSTANT GRATIFICATION. I PUT A YEAR OF MY LIFE INTO THIS BUILDING. TO SEE THAT HAPPEN, IT WAS AMAZING. IT TOUCHED ME. EVERY DECISION YOU MAKE ON THE FRONT END IS VERY IMPORTANT. IT AFFECTS THE COST A LOT. EVERYBODY SPOKE TO THAT. WHAT MAKES WINTER UNIQUE IS FIELD OPERATIONS WERE INVOLVED ON THE FRONT END. SO LOOKING AT A PROJECT , SUPERINTENDENT IS IN THE ROOM.

IT IS NOT JUST DONE IN A VACUUM. PRECONSTRUCTION DOES NOT JUST DO THEIR THING. PUTTING NUMBERS TOGETHER AND HANDING IT OFF TO BUILD IT. I'M INVOLVED WITH IT ON THE FRONT END. WHAT THAT ALLOWS TO HAPPEN IS WE CATCH THINGS ON PAPER AND EARLY BEFORE WE GET INTO THE FIELD AND WE FIND OUT, THIS IS MESSED UP WHERE THIS DOESN'T WORK. WE ARE LOOKING AT IT AHEAD OF TIME WITH PEOPLE THAT WILL BUILD IT. ONE OF THE EXAMPLES I HAVE FOR THAT IS -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE HEARD OF AMAZON. THEY WERE BUILDING 1000 IS DIVISION CENTERS. THEY SUCKED UP ALL THE HAD ENGINEERS AND SAYING, WHAT IF WE DO BEAMS INSTEAD TO MAKE SURE THE PROJECT COULD GO. WE WERE NOT GOING TO DO THE PROJECT. WE WORKED THROUGH IT AND GOT IT BACK WITHIN BUDGET AND WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE ON WITH THE PROJECT AND COMPLETED BECAUSE WE HAD FIELD GUYS IN THE MIDDLE THE ROOM SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO. I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT. WE KNOW TWO HEADS ARE BETTER THAN ONE. THREE IS BETTER THAN TWO. AND SO YOU GET THE BEST IDEAS IN THE BEST WAYS TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> WE WILL KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET. BUT I THINK IN SUMMARY, OUR EXPERIENCE ON LIBRARIES SPEAKS FOR ITSELF . IF THERE WAS ANY PROPOSAL, I THINK WE HAVE OVER 50 LIBRARIES WE HAVE DONE OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST 20 OR SO YEARS. JUST FIVE OR SEVEN OF THEM ACTUALLY WITHIN THE FIVE OR LAST SEVEN YEARS. HEADING WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT LIBRARY SPECIFICALLY IS THEY ARE NORMALLY ON THE SMALLER END OR SMALLER RANGE OF PROJECTS WE ARE USED TO DOING. I THINK THAT MAKES IT ALL THE MORE CRITICAL TO BE ACCURATE WITH TRADE BUDGETS UPFRONT . ANYTHING THAT COMES IN OVERBUDGET IS THAT MUCH MORE OF AN IMPACT ON SOMETHING IN THAT RANGE. I HAD A LIST OF PROJECTS WE WERE GOING TO INCLUDE WITH THE PRESENTATION BUT IT WAS NOT IN THE RFP. ON AVERAGE, OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS AND SEVEN PROJECTS , THE

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ESPECIALLY WITH GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS AND THAT I THINK THAT IS WHAT REALLY MAKES THESE PROJECTS A SUCCESS. THAT IS IT.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR SELECTION. WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY . IF WE ARE CHOSEN, I WILL CHALLENGE THE TEAM HERE TO BE ON HEATHER'S DOGE REPORT AT GNP AND FINAL COMPLETION.

THANK YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR WINTER?

>> THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT YOU GUYS. WE DID A GREAT JOB. THE QUESTION I HAVE AND I THINK FOR YOU IS TIMELINES. I THINK ALL OF YOU ARE ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACTS, MAKING SURE WE ARE WITHIN THE BUDGET. YOUR PRESENTATION DOESN'T SPEAK TO THE LENGTH OF TIME FOR THE PROJECT .

>> WE TRIED TO KEEP IT TO PRECONSTRUCTION BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT WAS THE QUESTION POSED TO US, TO ADDRESS. I WOULD SAY, AND JAMIE, YOU CAN CHIME IN. NINE OR 10 MONTHS FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THIS SIZE IN THE FIELD. SO DEPENDING ON WHAT I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN THE DESIGN PHASE RIGHT NOW BUT THE FIRST THING WE WOULD DO GETTING ON BOARD IS DISCUSSING WITH THE ARCHITECT, WHAT THE TIMELINE IS AND WHAT IS THE DEADLINE FOR THE PROJECT BACKING UP FROM THERE AND KNOWING HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE AND CONSTRUCTION IN DETERMINING WHAT THE -- WITH THE ARCHITECT AND ENGINEERS, HOW AND WHEN CAN WE OVERLAP THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS ? IT IS SOMETHING WE CALL PLANNING AND CONSTRUCTION. WE ARE KIND OF WORKING BACK

TOGETHER ON THAT PROCESS. >> THANK YOU.

>> I DON'T THINK IT WILL TAKE 12 MONTHS. FROM WHAT OUR

EXPERIENCE SHOWS. >> OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU. >> SO EACH OF YOU SHOULD HAVE A SCORESHEET IN FRONT OF YOU . IF YOU NEED ANOTHER ONE, I'M HAPPY TO GIVE YOU ONE. AS WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, WE WILL SCORE ONE, TO THREE. ONE BEING YOUR TOP CHOICE . AND IN THE CONTRACT WITH THE LOWEST SCORE, THEY WILL BE SELECTED TONIGHT. WE WILL GO INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE PHASE I CONTRACT. THAT IS WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT THAT TONIGHT. THEY WILL WORK WITH THE DESIGN FIRM TO DESIGN THE PROJECT AND WE WILL COME BACK TO PHASE 2, THE CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT, WHICH WILL INCLUDE THE GNP .

>> I HAVE A COMMENT. I WANT TO THANK ALL THREE TEAMS FOR YOUR BRIEFS. YOU MADE IT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT FOR ME . SO YOU ARE

DOING YOUR JOB. SOTHANK YOU. >> ARE YOU READY ?

>> ARE WE READY TO REPORT ? >> EVERYBODY IS LOOKING AT

EVERYBODY . >> IS EVERYONE DONE WITH THE

SCORES? >> I PUT NUMBERS DOWN .

>> OKAY. COMMISSIONERS SGROMOLO.

>> COMMISSIONER BURKE. >> E VON RIVERS ONE. WINTER TWO.

HASKELL, THREE. >> RIVERS, ONE, HASKELL, TWO,

WINTER, THREE. >> COMMISSIONER COMPERE.

>> THIS WAS VERY DIFFICULT. HE DID A PHENOMENAL JOB. I ALSO WENT CLAY COUNTY. I DID RIVERS, ONE, HASKELL, THREE, WINTER TWO.

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>> COMMISSIONER RENNINGER. >> I WILL AGREE. RIVERS, NUMBER ONE. TREND TO -- WINTER, NUMBER TWO. NAY -- HASKELL, THREE.

>> THE LOWEST SCORE GOES TO RIVERS, FIVE. WINTER CONSTRUCTION, 10. HASKELL AT 13.

>> 12 FOR WINTER. >> YOU ARE RIGHT.

>> SO FIVE, RIVERS. HASKELL AND WINTER, 12.

>> I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE THAT BID ON THIS. NOT EVEN 12 SHORT MONTHS AGO, WE WERE STRUGGLING TO GET ONE COMPANY TO BID AND THAT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT. WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU. WE ARE HOPING YOU WILL BID AGAIN. WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT THINGS GOING ON. WE ARE BUILDING FIRE STATIONS AND HOPING TO BUILD THE SHERIFF'S BUILDING HERE SOON. A LOT GOING ON IN CLAY COUNTY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I WORKED WITH HASKELL . I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WINTER . PUTTING YOU BACK IN THE LINEUP

[24.  Purchase Agreement related to Parcel Number 04-05-25-009001-001-01 (C. Risinger)]

HOPEFULLY . THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 24.

BUILDING ANOTHER BUILDING. SO YOU MAY WANT TO STAY FOR THIS ONE IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMEWHERE TO GO. THIS IS A PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT FOR PARCEL NUMBER 04-05-25-009001-001-01 , IN

MIDDLEBURG. >> THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. CLAY LIVED -- CALEB REISINGER, ITEM 24 FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION DECISION IS A PURCHASE AGREEMENT FOR THE ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY AT 3166 COUNTY ROAD 220, WHICH IS A FORMER FAMILY DOLLAR AND WILL SERVE AS A NEW SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER RECOVERY CENTER. WE HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE TEAM, CAPITAL PROJECT AND GRANTS, TO ENSURE THAT THE PROPERTY WOULD BE SUITABLE FOR THE PROJECT AND WILL FOLLOW THE BUDGET CONSTRAINTS. THE INITIAL LISTING PRICE FOR THE PROPERTY WAS AT 2 MILLION. AND WE WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE TO 1. 62 MILLION . THETEAM BELIEVES THAT THIS WILL BE A FANTASTIC ACQUISITION FOR THE PROJECT . AND IS EAGER TO GET STARTED AND MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE WITH RESPECT TO THE POTENTIAL ACQUISITION.

THANK YOU. >> QUESTIONS FOR CALEB?

>> IF NOT -- >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION. I THINK I ASKED THE QUESTION BEFORE. DID WE DO AN INSPECTION OF THE COMPONENT OF THE BUILDING, MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL?

>> WE DIDN'T INSPECTION PRIOR TO THE NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE

PROJECT. >> BUT THE POWER WAS OFF?

>> THE POWER WS OFF BUT WE WERE ABLE TO DO THE ROOF AND A LOT OF THE OTHER SYSTEMS AND EXTERIOR AS WELL AND INTERIOR AS WELL. IT WAS A FULL AND COMPREHENSIVE INSPECTION .

>> THE PLUMBING PART, THERE IS ONE BATHROOM. WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING -- LIKE CONCRETE CUTS I WOULD THINK.

>> WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. THERE IS ONE BATHROOM IN THE REAR FOR

THE FACILITY. >> IT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD BUY I

THINK. THANK YOU. >> ONE OF THE POSITIVE THINGS ABOUT IT, IS IT IS JUST A SHELL. THERE ARE NOT COLUMNS AND WALLS

AND THINGS . >> IT IS AN OPEN SPACE .

>> CALEB, ONE THING YOU SAID IN MY BRIEF TOO WHICH WAS GOOD IS WE TALKED ABOUT A PURCHASE PRICE. THE FIRST OFFER .

>> VERSUS THE OFFEROR? >> THE LISTING YOU ARE ASKING

FOR. >> AND WE WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE

DOWN TO 1.62 MILLION . >> THEY DID DOGE -ED IT.

>> CASE IN POINT. $400,000. GOOD JOB.

>> ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> THE PUBLIC HEARING DOES NOT

SAY THAT . >> AND WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC

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ITEM? >> SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK. NOW WE WILL ENTERTAIN A

MOTION. >> I WILL MOVE FOR APPROVAL TO PURCHASE PARCEL NUMBER 04-05-25 AND THAT A BUNCH OF ZEROS AND

ONES. >>

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER RENNINGER, DOES YOUR MOTION AND I'M SURE COMMISSIONER BURKE'S WILL FOLLOW DOES THIS INCLUDE FOR THE COUNTY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE

DOCUMENTS? >> I THINK THAT IS WHAT I SAID .

>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, INDICATE BY SAYING AYE .

>> AYE. >> OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0. I WOULD ADD FOR THE PUBLIC THAT THIS PURCHASE IS OUT OF OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUND MONEY . SO IT IS ACTUALLY NOT TAXPAYER MONEY. UNLESS TAXPAYERS BOUGHT OPIOIDS .

>> WE DID GET AN APPROPRIATION . >> I'M GLAD SOME PEOPLE GOT MY HUMOR ABOUT TAXPAYERS BUYING DRUGS. I HAVE A JOKE FOR YOU BUT

[20.  Legislative Priorities and Appropriations]

APPROPRIATIONS . >> MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS, I WILL BE GIVING THIS BRIEF. EACH THAT HAVE RECEIVED A CARD THAT SAYS 2026 ON THE TOP AND ON THE BACK. THE FRONT IS LED DECIDED PRIORITIES AND THE BACK OR APPROPRIATIONS REQUESTS. ALSO FOR YOUR REVIEW WAS THE 2025 CARD THAT WE ARE VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL WITH THIS LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION TO OBTAIN THE REQUESTS ON THE BACK . THAT AMOUNT TOTAL FOR 2025 WAS $6.9 MILLION AND THE PROJECTS LISTED ON THE BACK. I ASK ONE FORMAT.

IF THERE IS ANYTHING WITHIN THE FORMAT THAT YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION TO CHANGE, BOTH FRONT AND BACK , AND IT IS PRE-MUCH THE STANDARD AMOUNT WE HAVE GONE TO WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENCE IN THE BACKGROUND. AS THE SUN STARTS TO RISE. WE WENT, IN ORDER TO PREPARE FOR THE CARD, WE ARE TRYING TO DO THIS REQUEST SOONER THEN LATER. WEHAVE OUR DELEGATION THAT WILL BE HERE SEPTEMBER 30TH. THE DELEGATION MEETING FROM 2:00 UNTIL 5:00 P.M. AT THE BOARD ROOM. THE PLAN WOULD BE TO KIND OF GATHER THOUGHTS HERE AND GUIDANCE FROM YOU ALL . AND THEN BRING BACK A CARD AT THE END OF THE MONTH HERE FOR FINAL APPROVAL AND THEN WE CAN PRINT THEM AND HAVE THEM READY FOR THE DELEGATION AND THEN MEGAN, BACK THERE, KEN STARR TO INPUT THEM INTO THE SYSTEM THAT IS A PRETTY ROBUST SYSTEM IN THE DETAILS THAT NEED TO GO INTO IT. THE BRIEFING IS TO GET AN IDEA AND MAKE SURE THE BOARD IS OKAY WIH WHAT IS ON THIS. WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, THE FRONT PART OF THE CARD IS ALWAYS FOR US TO, NUMBER ONE, INDICATE HOME RULE AND WHAT THE COUNTY IS ABOUT AND WITH THAT, WE HAVE ADDED PRIORITIES THAT ARE HERE. YOU ALL CAN SEE THE FIVE THAT ARE LISTED . THE FIRST ONE, PROMOTE TRANSITION TO A TAX SYSTEM THAT SUPPORTS THE COUNTY AND SUPPORTS CHANGING ECONOMIC TIMES. AS WE ALL KNOW, THE GOVERNOR HAS AN EFFORT PUSHING A REFERENDUM FOR NOVEMBER OF 2026, TO REMOVE PROPERTY TAX AND THE SYSTEM. MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE SUPPORT -- THAT THIS SUPPORTS US AN ECONOMIC TIMES AND MOVING FORWARD. OBVIOUSLY, ANY OTHER SYSTEMS. SO IT WOULD BE CONNECTED TO SALES TAX OR OTHER ECONOMIC TIMES . THAT WOULD HURT US IN THOSE RECESSION TIMES THAT THEY ARE THERE. THE NEXT ONE IS CONTINUING TO PROMOTE LOCAL CONTROL OVER THESE TAX DOLLARS .

ANDTHE ALLOCATION OF THE FUNDS. EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AS WE ALL KNOW WITH PROPERTY TAX. THE ESSENTIAL SERVICES PROVIDED TO A PARTICULAR PARCEL, RESIDENCE OR BUSINESS THAT IS THERE. AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT DURING THE BUDGET PREP, ALL OF OUR INAUDIBLE ] THIS YEAR WILL GO TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. THE NEXT ONE IS PROMOTE THE CONSOLIDATION OF PUBLIC SERVICE ANSWERING POINTS AT THE COUNTY LEVEL DOING A COORDINATING BOARD FOR OVERSIGHT. THIS WAS A TOPIC IN THE PAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION. PEACE APPS ARE WHAT ARE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 911. WHEN YOU CALL 911, YOU EXPECT IMMEDIATE RESPONSE TO YOUR RESIDENCE OR BUSINESS. OR OUT THERE IN TOWN, THERE COULD BE A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT. WITH LIVES AT STAKE. WHAT IS

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THIS FUNDING FOR THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM AS WE ALL KNOW, EACH JUDGE HAS A LOGISTICAL ACQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE SERVICES OR WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT THE COMPTROLLER AND CLERK 'S LEVEL.

MOST AND PARTLY, IT A MILLION DOLLARS FOR EACH JUDGE. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT . IF THERE IS ANY WAY TO GET FUNDING FROM TALLAHASSEE TO SUPPORT THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE INTENT OF THIS PRIORITY. FINALLY, ADDRESSING RISING COST OF HOMEOWNER INSURANCE. THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING OUT THERE . WITH WHAT THE LEGISLATIVE HAS PUT INTO THE SYSTEM TO HELP US OUT REALLY SEEMS SLOW TO COME. MAYBE THERE ARE OTHER AVENUES. ON THE FRONT PART OF THE CARD ON THE CRIER READY, ARE THERE ANY OTHER PRIORITIES THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE --LIKE FOR US TO ADD OR

REMOVE ? >> I HAVE A QUESTION . THE PEACE APP REQUIRES COLLABORATION AMONG THOSE WITHIN THE COUNTY AND THE MUNICIPAL -- MUNICIPALITIES. THEY ALL BOUGHT INTO THIS?

>> WELL, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO DISCUSS WITH THEM. WE HAVE BEEN IN GOOD CONDITIONS WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND MOVING AND WITHOUT. AND KNOWING THAT THEY WOULD HAVE SOME REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE THERE WITH HOW THEY USE THE PEACE APPS.

MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME BUY IN FROM BOTH THE TOWN OF -- BOTH THE TOWNS.

>> IT WOULD BE GOOD TO TALK TO THEM BEFORE.

>> SURE. JUST SO WE KNOW. IT WAS GOING FORWARD AND FAST-MOVING THIS PAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION. IT WAS REALLY OUT OF OUR HANDS.

SO WE PUT THAT ON HERE TO SAY, LET'S TALK ABOUT A COORDINATING BOARD. WE WOULD GET GUIDANCE FROM YOU ALL IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS . I TALKED TO ONE OF THE COUNTY MANAGERS. THE OTHER, I WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO A COUNCILMEMBER AT ORANGE PARK. WE

DEFINITELY WOULD TALK TO THEM . >> THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. AND AGAIN , WE HAVE TWO WEEKS AHEAD OF US. IF SOMETHING ELSE COMES UP, PLEASE LET ME KNOW INDIVIDUALLY. I CAN PUT IT ON THE CARD AND IT WILL BE UP FOR THE NEXT BOARD MEETING FOR FINAL APPROVAL. ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE CARD, AGAIN, CHANGING SOME OF THE PHOTOS AROUND AND HAVING THE QR CODE AT THE TOP FOR DETAILED INFORMATION , WHAT WAS KIND OF BRIEFED AND THE GUIDANCE WE RECEIVE FROM THE DELEGATION, WE TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, QUALITY OF LIFE, ROADS AND WATER QUALITY. THE PARTICULAR PROJECTS IN HERE ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS, WE DIDN'T REALLY GET INVOLVED IN THOSE DETAILS WITH THE DELEGATION. WE WERE JUST ASKED AND THE REQUEST WAS, PLEASE KEEP THEM AT REASONABLE, SOMEWHAT REASONABLE AMOUNTS. SO NOT DOUBLE-DIGIT OR TRIPLE DIGIT REQUESTS FOR DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT WERE THERE. YOU CAN SEE THAT WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK PUBLIC SAFETY AND BROKE IT OUT. BYALL MEANS, THIS DOES NOT MEAN THIS WILL COVER ALL THE FUNDING FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES OWING FORWARD. THESE ARE KIND OF BITE SIZED CHUNKS THAT ARE THERE. THE FIRST ONE JUST INVOLVES A 911 COMMUNICATION E OC CENTER TO SUPPORT THE COUNTY AND REGIONAL OPERATIONS AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW MULTIAGENCY WAREHOUSE TO SUPPORT COUNTY AND STATE OPERATIONS. THAT IS SOMETHING WE WERE TRYING TO WORK THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND WITH THE GUARD AND AT CAMP LANDING. IT JUST DID NOT WORK OUT. THEY ALSO HAVE A NEED. FDEM AND OTHERS ARE OUT THERE. OTHER ORGANIZATIONS LIKE FEMA. WE KNOW WE NEED WAREHOUSE SPACE AND THAT ALWAYS COMES UP. THOSE ARE 2 MILLION BOTH FOR THE ASKS. THE TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY IS 10.5 MILLION IF YOU ADDED UP. CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW FLEET CENTER HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AND PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS THERE. NEW LINE PUBLIC SAFETY. THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND COUNTY OPERATIONS WITH FLEET. AT THE -- AT THE COMPLEX WE HAVE

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AGAIN, THESE WERE ESTIMATES. THIS IS UP FOR DISCUSSION . IF YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE MORE. CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW PUBLIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING FOR CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS.

AGAIN, THAT IS THERE. IT IS $3 MILLION . IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT TROY AND I TALKED ABOUT AND PUT A NUMBER DOWN. THAT IS KIND OF A HARD ONE TO PICK OUT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTION OR IF WE WOULD GO INTO DESIGN AS I LOOK AT TROY AND MAYBE IF WE LESSEN THE AMOUNT ON IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. $3 MILLION IS NOT GOING TO GET YOU A COMPLETE PUBLIC SAFETY SUPPORT FOR UTILITIES. BASICALLY IT SHOULD SAY WATER, SEWER AND ELECTRIC, TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING COMPLEX. WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THE LOCATION . CALEB HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY ON THAT AND KIND OF THE POSSIBILITIES OF MOVING AHEAD WITH THAT. SO THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD SUGGEST UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY . I CAN PAUSE NOW OR CONTINUE. AT THE END, COMMENTS.

OR ANY COMMENTS ON PUBLIC SAFETY?

>> MADAM CHAIR, A QUESTION. ARE WE EXTREMELY PRIMITIVE IN THE PROCESS AS SORE AS IF WE RAN THIS BY MERCER YET IN TERMS OF

HIS OPINION? >> WE HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH MERCER AND MERCER HAS BEEN PART OF THE STEP-BY-STEP AND HE UNDERSTANDS BREAKING THIS UP WORK SO THE ANSWER IS YES. IT ALL COMES DOWN TO FUNDING STREAMS OUT THERE AND THE ONES WE CAN ATTACH TO. I THINK THE DELEGATION OVER THE COURSE OF TIME HAS BEEN THOSE DIFFERENT POTS OF FUNDING. YOU WILL SEE THAT AT THE END. AND AS THE DELEGATION MENTIONED, IT DOES COME DOWN TO THE GOVERNOR

FINISH LINE . >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON

PUBLIC SAFETY? >> I DID. AND THIS MAY JUST BE A STYLISTIC THING. DO WE DECIDE THE ORDER IN WHICH DOES OR DOES

THAT MATTER ? >> WE CAN CHANGE THE ORDER. YES.

>> WILL THAT BE ARBITRARY ? >> WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE LOGICAL. IT WAS ARBITRARY FOR THIS. WHEN TROY AND I MADE IT, WE DIDN'T REALLY --

>> WE HAVE SOME ASKS THAT HAVE BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT THAT I THINK NEED TO BE MOVED UP TOWARD THE TOP. I'M LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW FLEET CENTER IN THE MULTIAGENCY WAREHOUSE. THOSE ARE THINGS WE HAVE BEEN HEARING SHERIFF COOK AND THE DEPARTMENT ASK FOR PRETTY REGULARLY .

AGAIN, TO MOVE IT FOR THE SAKE OF MOVING IT, IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME. BUT IF THERE WOULD BE IMPORTANT THERE, I WOULD LIKE

TO SEE THAT. >> THAT IS A GOOD REASON.

CONSISTENCY IS IMPORTANT ON REQUESTS LIKE THAT. WE CAN PUSH THOSE TO A HIGHER LEVEL. ANOTHER ONE WOULD BE KIND OF AN ABSOLUTE NEED , AS YOU LOOK AT IT. BOTH OF THOSE VERY MUCH MAKES SENSE

THAT WAY . >> I THINK WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION . YOU KNOW, IT DOES SEND A MESSAGE OF PRIORITIES. TO MAKE THE CARD, YOU ARE A PRIORITY. SO FIVE AND

SIX ARE PRIORITIES BUT I AGREE . >> WE WILL MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT.

THE NEXT WAS QUALITY OF LIFE. AND I HAVE TWO THAT ARE LISTED HERE AND I HAVE EACH COMMISSIONER INDIVIDUALLY.

$750,000 CONSTRUCTION OF PHASE 3 BOARDWALK AN OBSERVATION TOWER.

AS YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO SCALE THAT BACK BASED ON BUDGET. WE DID GET A VERBAL APPROVAL TO MODIFY THE MATCHING AMOUNT FOR THIS YEAR'S REQUEST . OR WAS IT LAST YEAR'S . I CAN'T REMEMBER. IT WAS LAST YEAR'S REQUEST. SO THAT WILL BE A GOOD THING FOR US. THIS BASICALLY IS KIND OF A U THAT GOES OUT AND WHAT WE HAD TO DO IS, IT IS NOT AS MUCH AS AN ARC. A LITTLE BIT LESS. SO THE PHASE 3 TAKES IT FURTHER OUT INTO THE AREA AND FOR THE OBSERVATION FOR THAT. $750,000 FOR THE IMPLEMENT APARTMENT AT THE CLAY COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS. AGAIN, THERE IS A LOT WITHIN THE FAIRGROUNDS MASTER PLAN TO EXECUTE.

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THAT. >> THE ROOF.

>> $350,000. >> THERE IS A GOOD CONNECTION TO IT. MAYBE YOU COULD PUT THAT IN THERE ABOUT IT BEING A HISTORIC LANDMARK. AND THOSE CONNECTIONS THERE. THEY WILL ALL BE REASONS THEY WOULD PICK IT . AND GET IT OVER THE FINISH LINE.

THOSE ARE SOME GREAT SUGGESTIONS .

>> TO REITERATE, AFTER THE BUDGET TALKS, I SPOKE WITH MEGAN AS FAR AS FINDING THE GRANTS AVAILABLE. SHE SAID DEFINITELY.

BUT IT WILL TAKE A WHILE TO GET THAT BACK. AND I SPOKE TO GENE.

AND JUST TO TRY TO FIND OUT THE SEVERITY OF IT. AND HE SAID, FOR ABOUT A YEAR, WE CAN DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO. BUT MEGAN ALSO REQUESTED THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT THIS TO GET IT FASTER. I HAD ASKED HIM , HOW SEVERE IS IT LOOKING AT GOING INTO RESERVES.

AND HE SAID IT IS DEFINITELY A POSSIBILITY. BECAUSE OF IT BEING A HISTORICAL MARKER. THE MORE WE -- THE MORE IT COULD BE DAMAGED, THE WORSE IT WILL GET AND WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE WHAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS IT BEING HISTORICAL. NOT JUST OUR DISTRICT BUT THE WHOLE COUNTY OF COURSE.

>> WE WILL PUT THAT SENSE OF URGENCY IN THE WRITE UP.

>> IS THERE ANY OTHER QUALITY OF LIFE ?

>> THE ROADS -- SO $5 MILLION TO TAKE COUNTY ROAD 218, TO FOUR LIONS, OUT TO WHERE WE ORIGINALLY WERE FOR THE BTP WHICH WAS CURTIS SPENCER. ED AND THE TEAM -- RICHARD COULD BACK ME UP, ALL THE PROPERTY AND PONDS FOR STORMWATER AND ALL OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS PURCHASED. THIS WOULD BE A CONNECTION THAT WE PUT IN THE WRITE UP, THAT IT IS READY TO GO. AND TO HELP US OUT. THAT IS ALSO WHAT WE WERE SEEING WITH THE DELEGATION.

>> AND THAT IS THE CRITICALLY DEFICIENT ROADWAY AND HAS BEEN SINCE THE ORIGINAL IMPACT FEE STUDY , MOBILITY STUDY .

>> YES, MA'AM. >> ANY OTHER IDEAS ON ROADS THAT

YOU HAVE ? >> I HAVE A QUESTION .

>> SOMEONE EXPLAIN THE $5 MILLION FOR 1 MILE . SOMEBODY NEEDS TO EXPLAIN THAT TO ME AGAIN BECAUSE IT DIDN'T SINK

AND. >> IT USED TO BE A MILLION DOLLARS A MILE. NOW RICHARD CAN BACK ME UP THAT IT IS PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE ARE AT WITH INFLATION AND THE COST OF THINGS

OUT THERE . >> I WILL GET MY CONTRACTOR

LICENSE. >> RICHARD SMITH, COUNTY ENGINEER. WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE ESTIMATES IN A BIG BROAD SENSE, SUCH AS THE MOBILITY STUDY , D.O.T. HAS A LIST OF ROADS, LIST OF VALUES, THAT THEY USE FOR THESE TYPES OF THINGS. TAKE A TWO LANE ROAD TO A FOUR LANE ROAD WHICH IS WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING HERE, IT IS VALUED AT $9.1 MILLION. SO WHEN WE PUT FIVE IN THEIR, I WAS TELLING THE COUNTY MANAGER , IT IS A VERY, VERY GOOD START. WITH THE DESIGN COMPLETED AND THE PODS COMPLETED. THE PODS NOT ONLY PURCHASED BUT COMPLETED.

>> SO NO LAND ACQUISITION . >> CORRECT.

>> THE 9.1 MILLION INCLUDES THAT. THAT IS THE NUMBER WE USE WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE LITANY OF PROJECTS WE ARE TRYING TO GET BUILT BY 2045. 9.1 MILLION. SO WE WILL NEED TO SUPPLEMENT THAT. IT IS A VERY, VERY GOOD START FOR THAT PARTICULAR ROAD SECTION. IT WOULD NOT BE THE SAME DOING THAT TO RUSSELL ROAD. ARE DOING A CAPACITY STUDY ON THAT. WE NEED FOUR LIONS FROM HANLEY ROAD TO SANDRIDGE. 9.1 MILLION WOULD BE MORE ACCURATE AND MAYBE NOT ENOUGH. BUT DOES IT ALSO COUNT

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>> I WOULD ADD THAT THIS TAKES IT FOUR LIONS FROM THE MORE COMMERCIAL AREA ON INTO THE COMMUTE TO LANDING BOULEVARD.

AND YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF THE LITTLE SECTION OUT FROM301, TO KIND OF -- COUNTY ROAD 217, WHICH IS WHAT WE JUST HAD TO GET THE BRIDGE UPGRADED ON AND WORKING ON. WE GOT THE APPROPRIATION FOR THE BRIDGE FOR -- BECAUSE OF THE DETOUR THAT D.O.T. LIKES TO MAKE. THE SECTION IN BETWEEN HAS ALWAYS BEEN UP FOR DEBATE . AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE RIGHT THERE REALLY DON'T WANT IT FOUR LANES. IT IS A LOT MORE RESIDENTIAL . THEREWAS A TIME WHEN THE COUNTY ENGINEER, PRIOR TO RICHARD, OUR WONDERFUL ENGINEER, PRIOR TO ENGINEERING , WAS JUST INSISTING ON THAT WE NEED FOUR LANES THE WHOLE WAY.

NOT DESTROY FAMILY FARMS OR LEGACY HOMES THAT WERE BUILT RIGHT NEAR THE ROADS. I WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT THAT IS NOT OUR INTENTION. THE INTENTION IS NOT TO GO PAST CARTER SPENCER BECAUSE IT BECOMES MORE RESIDENTIAL. EVEN THOUGH THE PROPERTY IS ZONED COMMERCIAL, WE WOULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ANOTHER TIME, CHARICE. SHE KNOWS. WE HAVE A LOT OF OLD PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALONG THERE THAT PEOPLE LIVE AND THAT HER ZONED COMMERCIAL. THEY MADE ALL THE ZONING AND PUT THE WHOLE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR ALONG HERE.

>> ALL RIGHT. I JUST ASKED RICHARD TO HANG OUT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WATER QUALITY TOO HAS BEEN HIS SPECIALTY AREA. BACK TO ROADS. IS THERE ANY SUGGESTION ABOUT ANY ADDITIONAL?

>> MOVING INTO WATER QUALITY. THIS WAS A SUGGESTED -- AND VERY MUCH EMPHASIZED BY SENATOR BRADLEY. SENATOR BRADLEY SPONSORED THE SENATE BILL 796. IT DEALS WITH DISTRIBUTED WASTEWATER TREATMENT SYSTEMS AND UNITS. THIS IS WHERE BOTH RICHARDS AND OUT A LITTLE BIT. BASICALLY, WHAT WE ARE ASKING TO DO HERE IS, THESE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE LINE AND HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN PLACE , OBVIOUSLY CONNECTING TO WATER AND SEWER IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE THE CCUA DOES NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY. IT WILL TAKE TENS OR $100 MILLION TO BRING WATER TO A PARTICULAR AREA. SO WITH THE NEW SENATE BILL AND LAW, YOU CAN RECEIVE A PERMIT FOR ONE OF THESE D WTU S THAT ARE THERE AND THAT WOULD HELP OUT. WHAT WE ARE ASKING HERE COME AT THE SUGGESTION OF THE SENATOR, IS LOOKING FOR A MILLION DOLLARS TO SUPPORT A PILOT PROJECT TO HELP THOSE INDIVIDUALS OUT THERE THAT HAVE THEIR FAILING SEPTIC SYSTEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OUT THERE AND REPLACE THEM WITH THESE DW TUS. THIS IS WHAT WE BRAINSTORMED OF IT . TROY AND I LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST THING TO GO FORWARD WITH. AND IF THIS TAKES OFF AND IT IS SUCCESSFUL , IT COULD BE A MODEL AT THE STATE LEVEL TO IMPROVE ALL THE SEPTIC SYSTEMS THAT ARE AROUND THERE.

THAT WAS REALLY THE BOTTOM LINE WITH THAT ONE WITH WATER QUALITY. IT IS DIFFICULT ACROSS THE BOARD AND SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT CCUA HAS ON THE SEPTIC AND SEWERS. IT IS REALLY CLOSE BY WHERE THE SYSTEM IS LOCATED ALONG DOCTORS LIKE AND EVEN THEN THOSE POSE PROBLEMS. I KNOW COMMISSIONER RENNINGER AND I DEALT WITH THIS ALONG THERE. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO ATTACK ARE THE ALGAE BLOOMS AND THAT EARLY BUT NO ONE HAS REALLY FIGURE THAT ONE OUT YET. LOOKING AT NITROGEN AND PHOSPHORUS RELEASED INTO THE SYSTEM. DOCTORS LAKE IS DEFINITELY AT RISK WITH THE MOVEMENT OF WATER AND WHAT IS BEING PUT INTO THERE. THERE IS A BIGGER MACROLEVEL ON ST. JOHNS ITSELF, ST. JOHNS RIVER. AND ALONG SANFORD AREA AND THE NUTRIENTS INPUT INTO THAT AREA FROM SOUTH FLORIDA. THAT ALSO IS MAKING EFFECT ON TO THE RIVER ALSO FOR QUALITY. THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT AREAS. THIS IS THE ONE WE CHOSE . SOWE GO FORWARD FROM

THERE. ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS ? >> MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD SAY IT IS A GOOD IDEA. I THINK YOU ARE GOING TO SEE PROBABLY COME OVER THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR YEARS, NOT JUST HERE IN CLAY COUNTY BUT STATEWIDE, A PUSH FOR WATER QUALITY AND STORMWATER

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>> WE CAN MASSAGE IT. >> I WOULD JUST DOUBLE CHECK .

>> THOSE WHO DO THIS FOR A LIVING, THEY KNOW WHAT IS -- YOU NEVER KNOW HOW IT WILL PERCEIVED.

>> WE WILL DOUBLE CHECK WITH THAT. OBVIOUSLY THE ] WILL COME TO THE NEXT BOARD . ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS?

>> I'M ALL FOR THE PILOT PROJECT. WHY IS IT OUR RESPONSIBILITY? WHY ISN'T IT CCUA'S RESPONSIBILITY?

>> I CAN ANSWER. >> THE STATE STATUTE SAID THE COUNTY SHALL . ITDOESN'T SAY THE COUNTY AUTHORITY OR DELEGATES. THESE WERE THE TWO. THE SENATE BILL AND THE HOUSE BILL THAT PASSED TWO YEARS AGO. AND THEY EXPRESSLY SAY THE COUNTY IS RESPONSIBLE. THAT IS WHAT PART OF THE PLAN WE SUBMITTED LAST FEBRUARY -- IF YOU REMEMBER , THAT JOYCE EDMONDS PUT TOGETHER FOR US, WE DID A DRAFT PLAN TO GIVE DEP, OF HOW WE WOULD ADDRESS IT . IT IS REMOVAL OF SEPTIC TANKS.

THEYHAVE THIS MANDATE THAT BY 2030, THERE WILL BE NO MORE SEPTIC TANKS IN FLORIDA. WE ALL KNOW THAT IS EXTREMELY UNREASONABLE . YOU HAD TO SUBMIT THE DRAFT PLAN IN ORDER TO EVEN BE ELIGIBLE FOR GRANT FUNDING. AND THEN NEXT JULY, DEP DID THEIR DRAFT PLAN TO THE LEGISLATURE. THIS IS ALL WHERE

THIS IS MASSAGING TOO . >> IT MAY BE MIGRATING. BUT CCUA DID A PROJECT AT TRANSITION FROM SEPTIC TO THESE STANDALONE SEWERS. DWTS OR

WHATEVER YOU CALL IT. >> READING THE SENATE BILL, THIS IS BETWEEN THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER AND TO GET THE PERMIT FROM DEP AND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MANAGING THE SYSTEM. SO YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT, COMMISSIONER. THE PILOT PROJECT THAT WAS THERE, THAT WAS A MORE COMPLICATED TYPE OF SYSTEM. AFTER RELYING ON ENGINEERS TO HELP ME OUT ON THIS. THAT IS WHY CCUA WAS NEEDED IN THAT SITUATION TO MANAGE IT . AND SOME OF THE SYSTEMS, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, IT WENT THROUGH IT. I THINK IT PRE-CHARGED IT. I THINK IT EVEN WENT INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM THERE THAT WAS ALONG DOCTORS LAKE .

>> THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT PROJECT THAN WHAT SHE IS TALKING ABOUT I THINK. THAT WAS TRULY SEPTIC TO SEWER. THEY HAD TO CONNECT . AND THEY WILL STILL HAVE TO CONNECT. THAT REASON IS BECAUSE IF YOU ARE IN A CERTAIN DISTANCE FROM A BODY OF WATER AND IT APPLIES TO BLACK CREEK AND IT APPLIES TO LAKE GENEVA OR LAKE BROOKLYN OR THE LAKE I LIVE ON. IT APPLIES TO ALMOST EVERY BODY OF WATER IN CLAY COUNTY THAT IS MOVING. THEN THERE ARE DIFFERENT RULES ABOUT THE PERMITS. SO THIS WOULD ADDRESS PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT WITHIN THAT DISTANCE, OR IF IT IS JUST NOT AVAILABLE. AND FOR THE DOCTORS LAKE, THAT WAS TRULY SUBJECT TO SEWER AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO CONNECT . THAT IS THE PART THAT JEREMY TOLD US COULD BE 20-$30,000 PER HOUSEHOLD. I THINK THIS WOULD BE KIND OF SUPPLEMENTAL. HERE IS THE OTHER THING I WOULD ADD TO IT. FOR INSTANCE, WE JUST HAD TO REPLACE THE DRAIN FILLED. NOT THE SEPTIC TANK BUT THE DRAIN FIELD FAILED AND IT WAS ALMOST $8000. I THINK YOU COULD DO SOMETHING IN A GRANT PROGRAM KIND OF THING WHERE -- I KNOW SPECIFICALLY OF SOME PEOPLE ON KINGSLEY LAKE WHOSE SEPTIC TANKS ARE CURRENTLY FAILING, THAT ARE JUST POLLUTING THE LAKE AND THE ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO REPLACE THEM OR FIX THEM. SO IT JUST RUNS OUT ON TO THE GROUND. IT IS DISGUSTING. I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE SOME OLD SEPTIC TANKS EVEN AT ORANGE PARK WHERE PEOPLE MAY NOT REALIZE THEY STILL OWN A HOUSE WITH A SEPTIC TANK THAT WAS BUILT IN THE 60S OR SOMETHING.

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>> WE WERE PART OF CLAY UTILITY AND CLAY UTILITY SEPTIC GRANT PROGRAM I KNOW ONE RESIDENT THAT REFUSED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FREE HOOKUP. THEY LIVE ON THE LAKE. SO WHEN YOU GET INTO PERSONAL PROPERTY , YOU CAN SAY YOU HAVE TO DO IT. BUT WE RESOLVED THAT OR THEY RESOLVED THAT . THEY ARE PAYING THE HOOKUP FEE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY ARE HOOKED UP OR NOT. THEY

REFUSE TO HOOKUP. >> THE ONLY THING I WOULD CHANGE HERE IS THE WORDING. IN AREAS WHERE WATER IS NOT AVAILABLE, I WOULD CHANGE THAT TO SAY, WHERE WASTEWATER TREATMENT IS NOT AVAILABLE. BECAUSE THERE ARE PLACES IN CLAY COUNTY AT LEAST IN KEYSTONE. I THINK THERE ARE OTHER PLACES IN THE COUNTY WHERE CCUA HAS WATER WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE SEWER. OR YOU MAY WANT TO

SAY SOMETHING LIKE SEWER. >> PENDING ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS, THAT IS KIND OF THE BRIEF. OUR GOAL IS TO GET THIS DONE SOONER THEN LATER. AUGUST 15TH, THE SYSTEM OPENS UP FOR MEGAN TO START INPUTTING . WE WILL WAIT UNTIL THE LAST BOARD MEETING IN AUGUST BEFORE WE START DOING THAT. AND THEN IT IS OPEN UNTIL NOVEMBER 15TH. I THINK THIS JUST CAME OUT YESTERDAY. WE RECEIVED AN E-MAIL ON IT. WE WILL BE WAY AHEAD OF THE BALL GAME IN THE SYSTEM WITH GETTING THAT IN. AGAIN, BETWEEN NOW AND TWO WEEKS, IF THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE ON YOUR MIND, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. WE WILL FINALIZE THIS. WHEN WE GET FINALIZED FROM THAT MEETING, LAURA'S TEAM WILL GET IT AND WE WILL GET IT BACK FROM THE PRINTERS AND TIME FOR THE SEPTEMBER 30TH DELEGATION MEETING.

>> ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? >> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE ALL THE

[25.  Discussion of Appointment to the Construction Trades Licensing Board]

WORK ON THAT. >> WE ARE AT ITEM NUMBER 25.

DISCUSSION OF APPOINTMENT TO THE CONSTRUCTION TRADES LICENSING BOARD. STEVE IS HERE . HE WAS. THERE HE IS. STEVE IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS. IF YOU REMEMBER AT THE LAST MEETING, WE HAD OUR BUSINESS PERSON ON THE COMMITTEE OR THE BOARD TO RESIGN. WE ACCEPTED THAT AT THE LAST MEETING. WE HAVE TWO APPLICANTS TO FILL ONE POSITION. IS THAT CORRECT, STEVE? WE HAVE MICHAEL BOUCHER, WHO I SEE IS HERE AND WE HAVE CLARK BRIGGS, JR. IS CLARK BRIGGS, JR. HERE? I DIDN'T THINK SO . SO DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ?

>> I WILL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE MICHAEL BOUCHER FOR THE BUSINESS

PERSON SEAT. >> SECOND .

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> YOU LOOK LIKE YOU HAD SOMETHING TO SAY ?

>> FOR ME, IT IS TOUGH. BOTH OF THEM ARE VERY GOOD CITIZENS AND BOTH ON VERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES. ITIS JUST TOUGH .

>> I DON'T KNOW MR. BRIGGS. >> MR. BRIGGS OWNS KAK OSCAR

REAPING . >> I THOUGHT HE WAS ALREADY ON

THEIR -- >> BOTH WOULD DO A GOOD JOB. I

WISH THERE WERE MORE SEATS. >> YOU HAVE CITIZEN ADVISORY

COMMITTEE. >> I HAVE BEEN MAKING CALLS.

>> PROBABLY HISTORIC PRESERVATION TOO .

>> ABOUT THE CITIZENS ADVISORY? NOT YET.

>> DO YOU WANT ME TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION?

>> YOUR GOOD. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

[26.  Acceptance of Resignation from the Fleming Island Citizen's Advisory Committee]

>> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED?

>> MOTION CARRIES 5-0. >> ACCEPTANCE OF RESIGNATION FROM THE FLEMING ISLAND CITIZEN'S ADVISORY COMMITTEE .

JANINE HOGAN SUBMITTED HER RESIGNATION.

>> I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL OF THE RESIGNATION OF THE FLEMING ISLAND CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE FROM JANINE HOGAN.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALLTHOSE IN FAVOR, INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

>> OPPOSED? >> MOTION CARRIES 5-0.

>> I WOULD INDICATE THAT IF YOU LIVE IN COMMISSIONER SGROMOLO'S DISTRICT, I HAVE SEEN THINGS ON FACEBOOK TALKING ABOUT WAWA

[02:50:07]

>> I WILL SAY BEFORE MY COMMENTS AT THE END .

>> MADAM CHAIR, WILL SAY THERE WAS ONE WE HAD AN JODI SAID SHE HEARD ABOUT TWO OR POSSIBLY THREE MORE THAT MIGHT BE

[27.  Discussion of Appointment to the Lake Asbury/Penney Farms Citizens Advisory Committee]

>> DISCUSSION OF APPOINTMENT FOR ASBURY LAKES, PENNEY FARMS. WE HAVE LUKE WILHELM. LUCAS LEGALLY HAS SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR

APPOINTMENT. >> I WILL MOVE APPROVAL.

>> OCEAN AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, INDICATE BY SAYING AYE .

[28.  Letter of Support for Comcast's Broadband, Equity, Access, and Deployment (BEAD) Program Grant Application with Florida Commerce (M. Covey)]

>> OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. >> CONGRATULATIONS.

>> LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR COMCAST BROADBAND, EQUITY, ACCESS AND DEPLOYMENT BEAD PROGRAM GRANT APPLICATION WILL FLORIDA COMMERCE. MEGAN HAS ASKED -- WORK COMPOST ASKED FOR US TO SUPPORT THIS. I BEGRUDGINGLY WILL SUPPORT US -- THIS. BUT TROY KNOWS MY HEART BURN. WE HAVE SUPPORTED A LOT OF GRANTS FOR COMCAST AND THEY ARE REALLY SLOW GETTING ANY CONSTRUCTION GOING PAST WHAT THEY DID BEFORE AND REALLY MEETING THE NEEDS OF OUR FOLKS THAT ARE OUTSIDE . THE MAPS AND OUR MAPS DON'T NECESSARILY -- THE BORDERS OUR HE. WHEN YOU TRY TO ZOOM IN, IT IS KIND OF MOORE THE. WE HAVE A NEW PERSON WHO , BY ACCIDENT OR DIVINE INTERVENTION , I KIND OF BELIEVE IT WAS THE HOLY SPIRIT PUT US BESIDE THE NEW GOVERNMENT PERSON THERE. LIKE RIGHT IN THE SEAT BESIDE ME. I LOOKED. I LOOK AT HIS NAME TAG AGAIN. AND I SAID, NICE TO MEET YOU. HE ASSURES ME THEY WILL MEET OUR NEEDS . I THINK I SCARED HIM. HE RAN AWAY FROM TROY TONIGHT. I

WAS NOT STALKING HIM . >> SO WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO GET -- I BROKE -- I JOKE. BUT BROADBAND IS AN ISSUE AND A LOT OF THE RURAL AREA. AND AND COMMISSIONER BURKE'S AREA, DISTRICTS. AND IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT CANNOT CALL 911 BECAUSE AT&T IS PULLING OUT THE TRADITIONAL LANDLINE PHONE LINES. AND SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO GOOD CELL PHONE SERVICE AND YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO INTERNET , YOU STRUGGLE JUST WITH BASIC CONNECTIONS. THIS IS IMPORTANT.

>> AT&T IS PULLING OUT ALL THE COPPER WHICH IS THE HARDLINE PHONE NATIONWIDE. OR WORLDWIDE I GUESS.

>> DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT WE WILL SUPPORT IT?

>> WE HAVE A CONSENSUS ? >> WE WANT TO WRITE A LETTER?

>> WE ARE LL IN -- WE ALL CONSENT .

[29.  Tourist Development Council Meeting Minutes July 16, 2025]

>> WE HAVE OUR LETTERS OF DOCUMENTATION. WE HAVE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FROM JULY 16 . YOU PROBABLY ALL AHEAD BRIEFS WITH TEDDY AND COMMISSIONER SGROMOLO . IS THERE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT?

>> THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS THAT TEDDY HAS DONE A REMARKABLE JOB IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME HE HAS BEEN HERE. AND I TALKED TO HIM EARLIER TODAY . AND THEY ARE CONTINUING TO MOVE THE BALL FORWARD. THEY HAVE A MEETING LATER THIS WEEK ABOUT SOME PROSPECTIVE EVENTS WHICH IS REALLY GOOD . I'MEXCITED. I'M EXCITED TO SEE A LOT OF THESE THINGS UNFOLD. CLAY COUNTY PRO RODEO IS REALLY EXPANDING. I THINK TEDDY, ONE OF THE THINGS TEDDY SAID AS THEY HAVE A COMMITMENT TO STAYING HERE IN CLAY COUNTY, WHICH IS AWESOME. ON TOP OF MAKING IT A MULTI-DAY

[30.  Bid Opening Tabulations (K Smith)]

>> GREAT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF BID OPENING TABULATIONS. WE BID THE FIRE STATION 18 PARKING LOT. THAT CAME IN OVER BUDGET SO THEY HOPE THIS ONE COMES AGAIN. SIDEWALKS FOR THE CDBG GRANT PROGRAM AND CONTINUING ENGINEERING

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

[02:55:10]

AND THAT IS MR. MEADOWS . >> IT HAS BEEN AN INTERESTING EVENING. I CAME HERE LAST MEETING ABOUT AN ORDINANCE. I WILL SPEAK TO IT ONE MORE TIME. MY COUNTY ATTORNEY DOWN TWO PARAGRAPHS OF THE CONSTITUTION AT A COURT CASE FOR ORANGE COUNTY. IN HER OPINION , PROVIDES FOR CLAY COUNTY TO ACT AS A MUNICIPALITY AND LEVY A UTILITY TAX. ORANGE COUNTY IS A HYBRID COUNTY. IN THAT THEY HAVE AN ELECTED MAYOR. ONE OF THE THINGS BY HAVING AN ELECTED MAYOR IS THAT THEY CAN ACT LIKE A MUNICIPALITY. THAT WAS THE SUPREME COURT CASE . SADLY, ALL OF YOU WERE NOT HERE WHEN THE ORDINANCE WAS PAST. THE ORDINANCE WAS PASSED BASED ON THE FLORIDA STATUTE. IT IS IN THE HANDOUT I GAVE YOU. THAT QUOTES THE AUTHORITY OF THE MUNICIPALITY TO LEVY A UTILITY TAX. IT IS IMPROPER FOR THE WAY IT WAS ISSUED. THE CITY OF PENSACOLA IS LOOKING AT REFUNDING ABOUT $15 MILLION FOR A SIMILAR ACTION THROUGH A CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT . SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT . EACH ONE OF YOU, TWO OF YOU KIND OF IRRITATED ME BUT I'M SURE WE CAN WORK THAT OUT. THE DEAL IS , YOU HAVE TO LEAD . IT'S HARD.

BECAUSE ALL THE PEOPLE, ALL THE STAFF PEOPLE WANT MORE MONEY.

BUT THE POOR LADY WHO WAS A. WAS SCARED COME ALMOST TREMBLING WHEN SHE ADDRESSED YOU. YOU HAVE GOT A HARD JOB IN FRONT OF YOU.

DO YOU WANT TO BE POPULAR WITH THE PEOPLE BEGGING FOR MORE MONEY TO BUILD MORE BUILDINGS AND AND MORE STAFF? OR DO YOU WANT TO BE POPULAR WITH THE PEOPLE WHOSE BACKS YOU ARE RIDING ON? A MATTER OF INTEREST, AS HEATHER NOTED THAT YOU ARE SAVING MONEY BY BRINGING YOUR AMBULANCE BILLING IN-HOUSE . I REVIEWED THE 2023 CLAY COUNTY SALARY STATUS . STARTING AT THE HIGHEST SALARY AND GOING TO THE LOWEST WORK IT WAS EITHER TWO OR THREE INDIVIDUALS ON THE CLAY COUNTY STAFF IN 2023 WHO WERE AMBULANCE BUILDERS OR AMBULANCE BILLING AUDITORS. IF THEY WERE THERE IN 23 AND YOU HAD A VENDOR COLLECTING IT, WHAT WERE THEY

DOING ? THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. MEADOWS .

>> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR THE SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC

[COUNTY ATTORNEY]

>> COUNTY ATTORNEY . >> YES. JUST A FEW ITEMS . I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE WAS AWARE THAT THE COUNTY HAD BEEN CONTACTED BY A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT FIRMS IN CONNECTION WITH A NEW MULTIDISTRICT LITIGATION RELATED TO INSULIN PRICING. WE DID GATHER INFORMATION THROUGH HR AND WITH OUR RISK MANAGER AND SUBMITTED IT FOR CONSIDERATION . WE WERE ADVISED AT THIS TIME THAT BASED ON THE INFORMATION WE HAVE, THAT OUR COUNTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO MEET THE CURRENT CRITERIA. IF THAT SHOULD CHANGE, THEY WILL REACH BACK OUT TO US. ALSO, YOU

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>> THE SENATE BILL 180, I'M SURE YOU HAVE HEARD A LOT ABOUT IT. WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS IN CONNECTION WITH THAT . THERE ARE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT ARE WORKING TO BRING LITIGATION , PEOPLE REACHING OUT . IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT SENATE BILL 180, JUST LET US KNOW AND WE CAN WORK ON THAT AS WELL. AND THEN, ON THE -- WHAT IS IT CALLED -- JAKE BREAKING -- QUICKLY, I HAD LOOKED SOME OF THAT UP. JUST FOR YOU TO BE THINKING ABOUT AN IN CONNECTION ACTION . IT WOULD BE A FINE AT A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND WE WOULD NEED TO IDENTIFY THE PARTICULAR LOCATIONS THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO PROVIDE FOR THAT. IF YOU WILL JUST THINK ABOUT IT, WE CAN DISCUSS .

>> PROVIDE WHAT ? >> THE LOCATIONS . SO YOU NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ADOPT THE PARTICULAR LOCATIONS IN WHICH YOU WOULD DIRECT THE SIGN DEPARTMENT TO PUT SIGNS THERE TO DIRECT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO

ENFORCE IT. >> THE ONLY PLACE I HAVE HEARD IS HENLY ROAD AT THE EXPRESSWAY. SO I DON'T KNOW . THERE IS SO

MUCH RESIDENTIAL AROUND THERE. >> OKAY.

>> OBVIOUSLY, BASED ON MY BLENDED RESEARCH, IT WOULD BE UP TO THE OFFICERS TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IT IS CONSIDERED

AN INFRACTION BASED ON THE TIME. >> LASTLY, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THE COUNTY COURT VACANCY FOR OUR POSITION IS THE INTERVIEWS ON FRIDAY, THE 22ND AT THE HISTORIC CLAY COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND THEY HAVE RECEIVED FIVE APPLICATIONS FOR THAT POSITION . LASTLY, DO YOU WANT ME TO ADDRESS ANYTHING ABOUT THE UTILITY TAX AT THIS TIME? DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ENFORCEABILITY?

>> I'D LIKE TO KNOW . >> CERTAINLY, THE REFERENCE THAT MR. MEADOWS MADE TO THE SUPREME COURT CASE , IT IS A SUPREME COURT CASE THAT WAS BACK IN 1994. AND IT SETS FORTH THAT THE CONSTITUTION, WHICH SPECIFICALLY, THERE ARE TWO PLACES IN THE FLORIDA CONSTITUTION, THAT WHEN READ TOGETHER, THOSE GIVE CHARTER COUNTIES THE AUTHORITY TO LEVY ANY TAX AT A MUNICIPALITY MAY IMPOSE WHICH IS THE UTILITY TAX.

THAT SUBSEQUENTLY HAS BEEN FOLLOWED. IT IS THE SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND YOU SHOULD FOLLOW THAT. MOST RECENTLY,THERE IS A COUNTY CASE THAT HAS FOLLOWED IT .

>> BECAUSE WE ARE CHARTER COUNTY BASICALLY?

>> YES . >> THANK YOU.

>> THAT IS ALL I HAD. DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ?

[COUNTY MANAGER]

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR COURTNEY? >> MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS.

I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF AT THE OPENING OF FIRE STATION 20.

JUST A FANTASTIC JOB ALL AROUND BY EVERYONE INVOLVED. LAURA PUT A VERY GOOD PROGRAM TOGETHER . ALL THE LOGISTICS AND ALL OF THE PREPPING THAT HAD TO GO ON. MOST IMPORTANTLY, GETTING THIS PROJECT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE. THAT HIS BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND MAKING IT HAPPEN. AND HE KIND OF JOKED WITH ME A FEW YEARS AGO -- I THINK IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO, THEY TOLD ME AND LAUREN THAT THIS FIRE STATION WILL GET COMPLETED BY NOVEMBER. BUT WE ARE IN AUGUST. SO ISN'T THAT FANTASTIC ! THAT'S THE PROJECTION. I CAN TELL YOU THE BIGGEST SMILE IN THE GARAGE AREA , WHERE WE HAD THE CEREMONY, WAS FIRE CHIEF LAUREN MAUCH . QUITE AN ACCOMPLISHMENT. AND EVERYTHING, TO MAN, EQUIPPED AND TRAIN ACROSS THE BOARD. VERY PROUD OF THE ENTIRE TEAM ON THAT HEAVY LIFT. TWO OTHER BIG ONES THAT HAPPENED HERE, COMPLETING SANDRIDGE ROAD AND CATHEDRAL PARKWAY. AND SO ED AND HIS TEAM, PHENOMENAL JOB GETTING THAT ALL DONE. I WANT TO POINT OUT , THIS IS AUGUST. THERE IS A LOT OF TAX SAVINGS FOR

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WE HAVE A TROPICAL STORM WE ARE MONITORING. TROPICAL STORM ERIN IS OUT THERE. IT IS HARD TO PREDICT AWARE ERIN WILL GO TO.

RIGHT NOW THE CONE HAS IT BY FRIDAY, SATURDAY TIME FRAME JUST NORTHEAST OF PUERTO RICO IN THAT AREA. WE ALL KNOW HOW UNPREDICTABLE THAT CAN BE. I WOULD SUGGEST ANYBODY OUT THERE LISTENING, THEY CAN GOOGLE THE ALERT AT CLAYCOUNTY.GOV.COM. A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THIS WATER POINTED OUT. MOST OF PORTLY, YOU NEED TO BE PREPARED. NEED TO HAVE A PLAN. MONITORING IT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, TIM IS HERE. TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE TAX-EXEMPT OUT THERE FOR EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS AND SCHOOLS. WE HAVE ALL BE ASLEEP BEEN MONITORING THAT . AND -- WE HAVE ALL BEEN MONITORING THAT. WE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE BEGINS BEFORE ONE OFFICIAL. NOT ONLY CAN THEY TURN THEM ON AND OFF. IT IS EVEN MORE THAN THAT. SO THE SYSTEM CAN SELF DIAGNOSE . IT CAN SET IT DOWN TO THE MINUTE TO WHEN IT GOES ON AND OFF. IT IS A PHENOMENAL SYSTEM. RIGHT IN TIME FOR SCHOOL

[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]

>> MR. SGROMOLO, DO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST?

>> I THINK WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN PERSONAL SENTIMENTS ABOUT STATION 20. THERE ARE TWO EVENTS SO FAR BEING A COUNTY COMMISSIONER THAT I WILL REMEMBER FOREVER. THE FIRST IS THE PURPLE HEART RECOGNITION WE DID A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO. THE SECOND WAS TODAY. AND THEN TALKING ABOUT THE POWER OF COMMUNITY AND WHAT A FIRE STATION MEANS TO A COMMUNITY. I THINK ABOUT WHEN I WAS A LITTLE BOY, I REMEMBER IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, IF I HAD A GOOD WEEK, MY MOM WOULD STOP BY THE FIRE STATION AT VIRGINIA BEACH, VIRGINIA AND WE HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THESE FIREFIGHTERS. THEY LET ME SIT ON THE TRUCK AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS . AND A FIRE STATION IS SO INTERCOOLED TO A COMMUNITY'S FABRIC . I THINK TODAY YOU GOT TO SEE THAT IN ACTION. I WAS TALKING TO LAURA. ALMOST 300 PEOPLE CAME FOR THE FIRE STATION OPENING . THE BEST PART IS YOU GET TO DO IT FOUR MORE TIMES. MAYBE FIVE. IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN, FOR THE PUBLIC, WE HAVEN'T OPENED A NEW STATION IN 20 YEARS OR 15 YEARS. IT HAS BEEN A VERY LONG TIME WITH THE GROWTH WE HAVE HAD IN THE COMMUNITY. SO IT WAS JUST AN OUTSTANDING DAY. A COUPLE OTHER THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT .

THE CLAY CHAMBER HELD A LEGISLATIVE WRAP UP ON JULY 31ST WHERE THE DELEGATION WAS ABLE TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE FUTURE.

I THINK THE BEST PART OF THE WRAP UP IS CLAY COUNTY IS IN VERY GOOD HANDS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. TALLAHASSEE BEING AS THERE WILL BE A NEW GOVERNOR COMING INTO OFFICE VERY SOON .

IT IS VERY TOUCH AND GO, I WOULD SAY. I THINK WE ARE IN VERY GOOD HANDS . FIGHTING THE VETO PEN IS SOMETHING COUNTIES FACE AND WE WERE UNSCATHED. THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE LOCAL TAX BASE BASE. THERE WAS ANOTHER EVENT AUGUST 8TH. I GOT TO PARTICIPATE IN IT. IT IS CALLED THE GLOBAL LEADERSHIP SUMMIT. IT WAS A PANEL OF LOCAL LEADERS AT A CHURCH ON FLEMING ISLAND. IT WAS PUT ON BY IMPACT CLAY. I JOINED THE SUPERINTENDENT AS THE GOVERNMENT REPRESENTATIVE. THERE WERE NON- FOR PROFIT LEADERS AND RELIGIOUS LEADERS. AND IT WAS REALLY COOL TO HEAR HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE WITH OUR OTHER MINISTER POLITIES AND RELIGIOUS LEADERS AND OTHER FORMS OF GOVERNMENT BECAUSE IT REALLY DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE. AND THEY TALKED A LOT ABOUT HOW, WHILE SOMETIMES WE CAN'T HELP OURSELVES , THE TEAMWORK ASPECT WE BRING TO THE TABLE IN CLAY COUNTY HELPS US MOVE THE BALL FORWARD SO TO SPEAK. IT WAS A REALLY GREAT EVENT. AND LAST THING I WILL SAY IS WELCOME BACK CLAY COUNTY STUDENTS. EVERYONE IS OFFICIALLY BACK IN SESSION.

AND PLEASE CONTINUE TO SLOW DOWN AND MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE THE SCHOOL ZONES ARE IN CLAY COUNTY. JUST FOR THE COMMISSION'S VISIBILITY ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SIDE. THE STATE LEGISLATURE MOVED TO A 2-MILE RADIUS WITH BUSSING. YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR SOMETHING ABOUT IT. WITH THAT BEING THE CASE, THERE ARE SOME AREAS OF CLAY COUNTY WERE NOW STUDENTS ARE GOING TO COME TO CROSS MAJOR ROADWAYS. MOST OF

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GREAT PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY TO PROTECT KIDS AND MAKE SURE WE ARE MAKING SURE THE CROSSWALKS ARE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE AND OF THE SIZE AND SCOPE TO MAKE SURE KIDS GET TO SCHOOL SAFE.

NONETHELESS, IT WILL BE A GREAT YEAR FOR ALL THESE STUDENTS AND I HOPE EVERYONE HAS A GOOD ONE.

>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BURKE.

>> I TOO ENJOYED THIS MORNING. I COMMENTED THAT MY HUSBAND WAS BORN AND RAISED RIGHT ON THE ROAD. MY KIDS AND MY HUSBAND BOTH PLAYED IN THE BALLPARK BEHIND IT. SUCH AN AWESOME COMMUNITY AND I'M EXCITED EVERYONE WAS ABLE TO BE THERE THUS TO OPEN IT ALSO . REPRESENTED OF GARRISON AND THE SENATOR. IT WAS AWESOME TO SEE EVERYONE THERE TO SUPPORT. I'M SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT I'M PROBABLY THE MOST EXCITED PERSON IN THE WHOLE ROOM ABOUT DEIDRA PARKWAY OPENING. AND I THINK I HAVE DRIVEN A BUNCH OF TIMES. IT IS A BEAUTIFUL DRIVE. AND I JUST LOVE IT. I KEEP ON GETTING COMMENTS ABOUT TRAFFIC WHEN SCHOOL IS OPENING. JUST TO SAY THAT AND TALK ABOUT THAT FIRST, A LOT OF KIDS ARE DROPPED OFF ON THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL OR SECOND DAY OF SCHOOL. JUST BE PATIENT WITH THE TRAFFIC. WE DEFINITELY STILL HAVE BACKUPS AT SAND RIDGE ROAD. I THINK IT IS A LOT OF THAT. PEOPLE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE RIGHT WAY TO GO.

I'M ALWAYS RECOMMENDING CATHEDRAL OAKS PARKWAY. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU WERE GOING. IT DOESN'T MATTER. AND THE EXPRESSWAY. IT IS FUN TO GET ON THAT. I HAD A GUY WHO I THINK DRIVES A MOTORCYCLE AND HE DROVE IT THE OTHER MORNING WHEN THE SUN WAS RISING AND HE SAID HE HAD A PICTURE LIKE HE WAS THE ONLY ONE THERE AND IT WAS REALLY NEAT. AND SUCH GREAT POSITIVE COMMENTS. I'M SO EXCITED AND ENCOURAGED BY THE POSITIVE COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE ALL RECEIVED ABOUT IT . PEOPLE ARE HAPPY ABOUT IT AND JUST A LOT OF GREAT THINGS ARE BEING SAID ABOUT THE COUNTY. AS FAR AS THE EXPRESSWAY, I WOULD RECOMMEND FOR PEOPLE TO GET THE SUN PASS. I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT THE SUN PASS. IT DOES GIVE YOU A DISCOUNT FOR THE TOLLS .

EVERYBODY HAS A CHOICE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THE EXPRESSWAY IF YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY THE TOLLS. IT IS A GREAT THING AND IT IS PRETTY INEXPENSIVE. ESPECIALLY IF YOU GET THE SUN PASS. SO WE WERE TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT THAT. EASY TO GET ONLINE. THE ROLLING HILLS BRIDGE, I WILL BRING THE SET. A NOT SURE IF WE HAVE TO VOTE ON SOMETHING ABOUT THIS IN THE NEAR FUTURE BUT IT HAS BEEN NOT WORKABLE. IT IS NOT SAFE FOR THE KIDS TO GO OVER. AND BECAUSE THE 2-MILE NOW, IT IS AFFECTING THE KIDS IN THAT AREA. SCHOOL BOARDFINALLY DID PUT IN A TEMPORARY BUSSING FOR THE KIDS FOR NOW BUT THEY SAY WILL BE FOR 30 DAYS. I HAVE ASKED COUNTY STAFF TO LOOK AT EITHER CONDEMNING IT OR SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO. IT IS OWNED BY DEVELOPER AND THE DEVELOPER IS NOT WANTING TO FIX IT. PRETTY MUCH TRYING TO PASS IT ON TO THE COUNTY OR WHOEVER ELSE WILL BUY THE PROPERTY. AND SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE. A GUY, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO HE IS , POSTED ON FACEBOOK THIS WEEKEND THAT HE WENT AND PUT FIVE BOARDS DOWN HIMSELF WITHOUT PERMISSION.

TO SNOWBOARDS DOWN AND SAID, CAN YOU GIVE ME A FIVE STAR REVIEW FOR MY BUSINESS ? WHAT?ANYWAY, I DON'T KNOW. I'M NOT SURE IF WE WILL HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT BUT I WANTED TO BRING IT UP TO YOU ALL SO YOU KNOW WE DEFINITELY NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND RONNIE VAN ZANDT WITH JUSTIN AND TIM AND HOWARD WAS THERE FOR THE OPENING OF THE DISH I CAN NEVER REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE PROJECT. IT IS BEAUTIFUL. YOU WILL NEED TO GO.

THE STAFF OUT THERE HAS REALLY MADE IT SO PRETTY. REALLY DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS BEFORE. I DON'T KNOW TOTALLY WHAT HAS CHANGED. BUT IT IS SO BEAUTIFUL BACK THERE TO GO AND SPEND TIME WITH YOUR FAMILY AND JUST GO OUT THERE AND MEDITATE OR PRAY OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO . JUST A VERY NICE PLACE TO GO. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THAT PROJECT . I THINK IT WILL DEFINITELY BE ENJOYED FOR MANY YEARS TO COME. THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

>> COMMISSIONER RENNINGER. >> I CAN START BY SAYING THAT I AGREE COMPLETELY ON WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED ABOUT THE

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HIS COUNTERPARTS AND SPEAKER GARRISON AND SENATOR BRADLEY WERE SO INTENTIONAL TO POINT TO HOW SUCCESSFUL HE WAS HIS FIRST YEAR. AND SO A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO HIM AND EVERYTHING HE IS DOING. AND THEM ALSO HELPING HIM GET THAT FAR. IT IS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT . AND IT IS ON DISPLAY FOR US TO SEE. I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS ABOUT THE CATHEDRAL OAKS PARKWAY.

GORGEOUS. I GOT LOST ON MY WAY OUT. I FELT SO BAD FOR SUPERIOR.

THEY WERE LIKE , MA'AM, I KNOW WE SAW YOU BUT I THINK YOU WANT TO GO BACK THAT WAY. THEY WERE REALLY SWEET ABOUT IT. BUT GORGEOUS, GORGEOUS DRIVE. I AM PROBABLY THE MOST EXCITED IN THE ROOM ABOUT THE EXPRESSWAY , THE TOLLROAD. BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN DRIVING AS FAR AS IT WOULD LET ME , BEING THAT MY SECTION WAS THE FIRST ONE TO OPEN YEARS AGO AND THE DRIVE TO GREEN COVE IS A MISERABLE DRIVE , CUTTING THROUGH THE COUNTY . ANDI CAN SAY THAT TODAY, IT TOOK ME 30 MINUTES . 30MINUTES TO GET TO WORK, WHICH IS A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT. 15 MINUTES OF MY LIFE BACK THAT I CAN APPRECIATE . SO I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THE SUN PASS IS THE WAY TO GO. I WAS HAVING TO HEAD OUT OF CLAY COUNTY TO DOWNTOWN FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND THAT TOLL ADDS UP. IT ADDS UP. SO GREAT ADVICE FROM COMMISSIONER BURKE. PLEASE EXPLORE YOUR OPTIONS THERE. THE STATION 20 THIS MORNING, THAT WAS REALLY SPECIAL. I AGREE WITH YOU . COMMISSIONER SGROMOLO, THAT WAS SO SPECIAL. YOU SAW THE FIRST FIRE CHIEF. THE EXCITEMENT IN HIS EYES. AND HE WALKED OVER AND WAS SHARING WITH ME HOW FAR THINGS HAVE, AND THE DIFFERENT OBSTACLES HE HAD TO OVERCOME.

AND IT WAS A REALLY BEAUTIFUL MOMENT. YOU COULD FEEL IT IN THE SPACE JUST HOW PROUD ALL OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE COUNTERPARTS ARE ABOUT THAT A, SHE MEANT AND IT WAS REALLY BEAUTIFUL TO BE PART OF THAT. I ALSO HAD A PARKS AND RECREATION OAK LEAF PLAYGROUND UNVEILING THAT TOOK PLACE LAST THURSDAY . HATS OFF TO DIRECTOR JUSTIN PIERCE AND HIS TEAM. BECAUSE THEYCOORDINATED WITH SOME KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE COACHES. IT WAS A REALLY NEAT EXPERIENCE . THEPARENTS WERE MORE EXCITED. YOU HAVE ALL THESE SPORTS PARENTS WHO ARE THERE ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD FOR THEIR KIDS. THE BOYS THAT ARE PLAYING.

THEN, THEIR YOUNGER KIDS DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO BUT TO BE ON TABLETS OR RUNNING TO GET OUT THERE ENERGY. NOW YOU HAVE THIS PLAYGROUND THAT WE SAW THEM USING WHICH WAS INSTANTLY GRATIFYING. THEY HAVE SOMEWHERE TO HANG OUT WHILE OLDER SIBLING IS DOING THEIR THING. AND IT WAS REALLY NEAT TO SEE OUR PARKS AND RECREATION TEAM COORDINATING WITH SOME OF THESE PARENTS.

LIKE HERE ARE YOUR OTHER OPTIONS. IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE DISTRICT TWO, TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS AROUND THE COUNTY, THERE ARE OPTIONS. I DON'T KNOW THAT OAKLEAF GETS TO SEE THAT VERY OFTEN. I OFTEN JOKE THAT COMMISSIONER CONDON AND HER DISTRICT, IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO OAKLEAF, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO OAKLEAF. AND SO FOR THAT PART OF MY DISTRICT, TO FIND OUT ABOUT OTHER EVENTS IS REALLY NEAT . ANDOTHER AMENITIES AVAILABLE TO THEM. IT WAS REALLY NEAT TO SEE THEM DIALOGUE WITH OUR TEAM WORK SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO STATE ATTORNEY HECTOR WORK I WAS AT A JUDICIAL HAPPY HOUR COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND HE PULLED ME ASIDE AND SAID, I NEED YOU TO GO TO ANY TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU AND TO YOUR COUNTERPARTS FOR THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE RENOVATIONS HAPPENING . HE WAS SHARING IN GREAT DETAIL THE THINGS THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. SO NEEDLESS TO SAY, THEY ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR OUR PARTNERSHIP AND WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH AT THE LAST BCC MEETING WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM. TWO MORE THINGS. SCOTTY TAYLOR, OUR

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ALWAYS INVOLVED IN COMMUNITY RELATIONS AND DOING WHAT HE CAN WITH IN CLAY COUNTY AND EXTERNALLY TO BRING AWARENESS TO WHAT WE ARE DOING. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, COMMISSIONER SGROMOLO BROUGHT UP THE SCHOOLS . AND MY HEART GOES OUT TO THE MOMS WHO ARE HAVING TO SEND OUT THERE PRE-K BABIES, THE COVID THEY BEES ARE STARTING SCHOOL THIS YEAR AND MY TIMELINE WAS FLOODED WITH ALL THESE MOMS WHO ARE SO SAD THAT THEIR BABIES WERE STARTING SCHOOL FOR THE FIRST TIME AND IT WAS HARD. AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER BURKE IS HAVING TO SAY, THIS WAS THE LAST FIRST DAY FOR YOUR BABIES. SO MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL THE MOMS. MYMOM IS SAYING , GOODBYE FOR NOW, TO HER FIRST SON WHO IS A SENIOR IN COLLEGE. SHE IS FALLING ALL OVER AS IF IT IS THE FIRST TIME HE IS GOING AWAY. IT DOESN'T GET EASIER, IS WHAT I HEAR. BUT ALL AROUND BEST WISHES TO THE STUDENTS ALL OVER CLAY COUNTY AND AT ALL LEVELS. WE HAVE COLLEGES IN CLAY COUNTY TOO.

BEST WISHES TO YOU AND GO DO GREAT THINGS. GO DOGREAT THINGS

. >> COMMISSIONER .

>> I ALSO WAS VERY MOVED BY THE STATION 20 OPENING. ESPECIALLY CHIEF MOCK'S DOWN -- WALKED DOWN MEMORY LANE WHEN HE HOOKED THE HORSES UP TO THE WAGON. HOW FAR WE HAVE COME. THAT IS WHAT I HEARD ANYWAY. IT WAS A GREAT EVENT. I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WE HAD A VETERANS COUNCIL MEETING LAST WEEK AND CONGRESS IS OUT FOR SUMMER RECESS AND REPRESENTATIVE BEING SHOWED UP AND HE IS A DYNAMIC GUY. DYNAMITE PERSON. HE IS ENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY AND LOVES VETERANS. ATTENDED NATIONAL NIGHT OUT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PUT ON A LITTLE GET TOGETHER AT THE LIONS CLUB AT ORANGE PARK. WELL ATTENDED. FOR THOSE IN THE LISTENING AUDIENCE, I'M GETTING MANY PHONE CALLS ABOUT THE LIBRARY COMPUTERS, THE ORANGE PARK LIBRARY. I HAVE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THEY WILL BE THERE -- THEY ARE ALREADY HERE BUT WE ARE GETTING IN THE PROGRAM AND ALL OF THAT. THEY WILL BE IN PLACE NO LATER THAN THE END OF THE MONTH, RIGHT, TROY?

>>

>> I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT. END OF THE MONTH. WE HAD NORTHEAST REGIONAL COUNCIL MEETING. THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES WITH ONE OF OUR MEMBERS AND BUDGETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT THE WE ARE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH. BUT I THINK WE WILL SURVIVE. AND ERIC IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. HE CAN EXPLAIN IT TO YOU. ONE OTHER THING IS, WELLS ROAD, THE PROJECT WELLS ROAD AND THE FDO TEA PROJECT HAS STARTED. -- AUX CAP DOT PROJECT STARTED. THERE WAS A PROJECT STARTED FROM THE DELEGATION TO LOOK AT THAT. THE IMPACT OF THE LETTER, I THINK THERE WAS A REQUEST TO PUT SIDEWALKS ALONG WELLS ROAD ON THE SIDE AND THE CHICK-FIL-A SIDE BASICALLY. AND THE LETTER HAS CAUSED AN OPENING IN THE DOOR THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE LANDOWNERS TO GET RIGHT AWAY TO PUT SIDEWALKS THERE. IT WILL BE A COMBINATION OF F DOT MONEY AND THE SIDEWALKS TO YOU THAT. I MET WITH CRAIG PHILLIPS MONDAY .

AND LOW AND BEHOLD WHEN I WAS LEAVING ON WELLS ROAD HEADED TOWARD ORANGE PARK, THERE WAS A GUY WALKING IN THE MIDDLE-OF-THE-ROAD FLAWS BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SIDEWALK THERE.

WHICH I COULD NOT GET MY CAMERA OUT QUICK ENOUGH. BUT IT WAS VERY DANGEROUS. SO THE LAST THING I HAVE IS MR. DELL THEN.

I THINK WILL BE ABLE TO SURVIVE AN ARTICLE OUT THERE.

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>> YOU HAVE BEEN ARMSTRONG . THAT IS ALL I HAVE . BE SAFE OUT THERE. A LOT OF KIDS ON THE ROAD. NEW BUS ROUTES. NEW TRAFFIC PATTERNS . BE CAREFUL OUT THERE. THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER. I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS. ONE, I HAVE TO SAY THAT I REALLY ENJOYED STATION 20 . AND I WENT AND ATE LUNCH AND I CAME BACK TO WORK AND I WAS STANDING TALKING TO ED IN HIS OFFICE. I HAVE TO SAY THAT I WAS HAVE SURPRISED THAT CHIEF MOTT CAME BACK TO WORK. HE ALWAYS SAID HE WAS WAITING TO OPEN A STATION. AND KIDDING. WE LOVE HAVING YOU. WE WERE GLAD YOU CAME BACK TO WORK. I WAS A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED. WONDERFUL MORNING. JUST A GREAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY. I LOVE HOW OUR COMMUNITY EMBRACES ALL PUBLIC SAFETY . AND THEY REALLY COME OUT FOR IT. AND HOW SPECIAL TO HAVE ALL THREE OF THE PREVIOUS FIRE CHIEFS THERE AS WELL AS THE CURRENT CHIEFS . SOIT WAS JUST A REALLY GREAT DAY ALL AROUND. I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE SCHOOL TRANSPORTATION. ONE THING I WILL SAY IS THE STATE LEGISLATURE DIDN'T CHANGE THE DISTANCE. THE COUNTY CHANGED THEIR FUNDING MODEL. THE COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD .

AND SO THERE WERE A LOT OF KIDS THAT, BECAUSE OF WHAT HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED UNSAFE CONDITIONS, WERE BEING PROVIDED TRANSPORTATION, ARE NOW NOT. I HAVE HEARD OF THEM. I HAVE SOME OFF OF COUNTY ROAD 218 ACROSS FROM THE WILKINSON SCHOOLS DOWN BLUE JAY. THEY USED TO SEND THREE BUSES NO DOWN BLUE JAY AND THEY SEND ONE NOW TO THE BACK. THEY DRIVE BY A BUNCH OF KIDS WALKING WITHOUT SIDEWALKS ON A COUNTY MAINTAINED MSBU ROAD.

DIRT ROAD. NO SIDEWALKS. KIDS HAVE TO WALK BY CONVICTED SEX OFFENDER HOMES. I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD SEND MY KINDERGARTNER OUT. I THINK THEY WILL HAVE A BIT OF AN ISSUE.

THEY SAID THIS IS BECAUSE A LOT OF HOMESCHOOL PRIVATE SCHOOL. I HAD ONE CITIZEN CALL ME AND ASK ME FOR HELP. I GAVE HER THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER'S PHONE NUMBER. SHE SAID, I HAVE TO PULL MY KIDS OUT AND HOMESCHOOL THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GO TO WORK AND I CAN'T LEAVE THEM. IT IS A SHAME THAT WE HAVE ISSUES AT HIGH RIDGE ESTATES. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS SAID HIGH RIDGE IS OUTSIDE THE 2 MILES BUT THEY HAVEN'T SHOWN YET THE MAPS BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS DON'T THINK THEY ARE. IT WAS A BIG TOPIC AT THE HIGH RIDGE INITIATIVE MEETING LAST NIGHT .

I FEEL FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BECAUSE THE FUNDING BUT I FEEL FOR THE FAMILIES AND COMMISSIONER SGROMOLO HAS FAMILIES THAT NOW HAVE TO CROSS 17. I HAVE PEOPLE FROM MIDDLEBURG HIGH SCHOOL AND MIDDLEBURG ELEMENTARY THAT HAVE TO CROSS THAT BOULEVARD. IT IS A DIFFICULT SITUATION. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY WILL END UP. BUT THAT IS BETWEEN THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THEIR CONSTITUENTS. CERTAINLY, WE SYMPATHIZE WITH THEM. ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY , THANK FULLY IT IS NOT SOMETHING WE DID THAT CAUSED THE RUCKUS THIS TIME. A LOT OF TIMES, IT IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE WITH BUDGETS. I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE FROM THE PROPERTY TAX COMMITTEE . I SIT ON THE PROPERTY TAX SELECT COMMITTEE. WE HAD A MEETING. SO THE STAFF AND EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE HAS BEEN REALLY BUSY. THEY MET WITH THE GOVERNOR'S CHIEF OF STAFF. THEY MET WITH THE CHAIR FOR THE HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE ON PROPERTY TAXES. THEY ULTIMATELY, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THEY CAME DOWN TO PICK FOR THE GOVERNOR, DOGE IS ALL ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES. THAT IS WHAT THE CHIEF OF STAFF SAID . SOWHAT THEY ARE DOING IS GOING INTO THE SELECT COMMUNITIES AND ASKING, WHAT ARE THEY SPENDING AD VALOREM ON AND LOOKING FOR LARGE PROJECTS WHERE THEY ARE LOOKING AT SPENDING THE AD VALOREM ON. WE KNOW THAT WOULDN'T BE THE CASE IN CLAY COUNTY -- CLAY COUNTY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SPEND ALL THE AD VALOREM ON A LOOK SAFETY. I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING. THERE ARE 18 STATES CURRENTLY LOOKING AT SIMILAR REQUESTS OR OPTIONS OR WHATEVER FOR ELIMINATION OF PROPERTY TAXES. ONE THING THAT IS KIND OF INTERESTING. IF YOU ARE A POLITICAL JUNKIE OR YOU FOLLOW THESE THINGS IS THAT THE ADVERTISEMENT IN OHIO LOOK LIKE ADVERTISEMENTS IN FLORIDA. IDENTICAL WORDING. IDENTICAL PICTURES. THERE IS SOME GROUP BEHIND IT. SO I ALWAYS THINK , FOLLOW THE MONEY AND SEE WHERE IT IS COMING FROM. I DON'T KNOW

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IN OHIO, SO FAR NO STATE HAS ELIMINATED PROPERTY TAXES BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT A WAY TO PROVIDE SERVICES .

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY , ALL 50 STATES CHARGE PROPERTY TAX.

>> YOU ARE CORRECT ON THAT. THE ONE THING THEY SAID DOES THE FINAL THING I WANTED -- ONE OF THE COUNTIES, ORANGE COUNTY WAS ASKED SPECIFICALLY, HOW TO USE AI. I KNOW TROY AND THE COUNTY MANAGER ARE ALREADY WORKING ON OUR AI POLICY TO, HOW CAN WE BETTER USE AI EFFICIENTLY IN THE COUNTY? THE FINAL THING FROM THAT , THAT CAME OUT OF THAT IS REALLY THE NEED FOR EDUCATION.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAW IS LAWMAKERS ACROSS THE BOARD IN TALLAHASSEE DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE PASSED THAT REQUIRE US TO SPEND MONEY THAT IS OUTSIDE OF PUBLIC SAFETY. I DON'T KNOW REALLY. I THINK THEY CONCEPTUALLY KNOW THAT WE PAY FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE FOUND THE SHERIFF'S. THEY KNOW WE KIND OF KNOW WE FUND THE CONSTITUTIONALS. THEY KINDOF KNOW THAT WE MAINTAIN ROADS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. THE REASON I USE KIND OF IS BECAUSE ONE OF THE LEGISLATORS WHO WILL REMAIN NAMELESS FOR PUBLIC REASONS -- NOT ONE OF OURS, BUT ONE OF THEM, DID NOT UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THEY MAKE CHANGES TO FRS, THAT IT INCREASES -- WE HAVE TO INCREASE OUR BUDGET BECAUSE EVERY COUNTY EMPLOYEE IS IN FRS . AND HE SAID, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS THEY ASKED FOR WAS -- ASKED EACH COMMISSIONER TO COME BACK TO OUR DISTRICT AND EDUCATE OUR DELEGATIONS ON, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THAT IS OUTSIDE THE NORMAL THINGS? AND SO -- FOR INSTANCE, AND I KNOW THE CLERK MENTIONED WHEN WE WERE DOING THE BUDGET STUFF IN JULY , I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH MEETING.

I THINK IT WAS JULY 8TH WHEN YOU MENTIONED, THANK YOU FOR FUNDING WHAT IS NOT COVERED BY THE STATE FUNDS BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN INCREASED THAT, THERE WAS A CLERK . I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE. THERE WAS A CLERK ON THE CALL THAT SAID THE SAME THING.

SHE SAID, IF OUR COUNTY DIDN'T SUPPLEMENT US, WE COULD NOT PROVIDE THE SERVICES REQUIRED FOR THE REPORTS. AND SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. SO TROY HAS PUT TOGETHER A LIST AND HE JUST HANDED IT TO ME TONIGHT. HE WILL GIVE IT TO ALL OF YOU.

IT IS QUITE ENLIGHTENING. ALL THE THINGS WE ARE REQUIRED AS CLAY COUNTY TO PAY FOR THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE NORMAL -- FOR INSTANCE, WE PAY A MILLION DOLLARS TOWARD THE CLAY COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND WE PROVIDE -- WE PROVIDED THE BUILDING AND THAT KIND OF THING . THE PROPERTY APPRAISER. 4.5 MILLION.

IT JUST GOES ON AND ON. SO SOME OF THOSE THINGS DON'T SEEM TO BE KNOWN. I WAS ASKED BY COUNTY COALITION IF TROY COULD PROVIDE A TEMPLATE OF WHAT WE ARE PROVIDING. I THINK OUR DELEGATION IS A BIT SHARPER THAN THE AVERAGE DELEGATION. WE LIKE TO THINK. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL BE NEWS TO THEM BUT IT IS NEWS TO A LOTOF PEOPLE THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO THESE THINGS.

YOU WILL SEE ON HERE, AGENT TRUCE SERVICES. WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO FUND THAT BUT WE ARE REQUIRED TO FUND ELDERCARE. AND SO AGING TRUE IS WHO GOT THE CONTACT WHEN THE COUNTY PUT IT OUT TO BID. AND THAT IS A MILLION DOLLARS. IT IS THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT ARE JUST INTERESTING. I WILL LEAVE THAT WHERE IT IS. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

>> DIDN'T AGING TRUE JUST COME HERE ASKING FOR MORE?

>> YES. THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TO FINISH THE YEAR. AND THEY HAD PUT IN A REQUEST FOR A SUPPLEMENT AND THE GOVERNMENT

VETOED IT. >> WHAT YOU JUST SAID, NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE TO FUND BUT I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE PROPERTY APPRAISERS BUDGET APPROVED IN TALLAHASSEE . WE DON'T EVEN GET

TO APPROVE THE BUDGET. >> IT IS INTERESTING YOU BRING THAT UP BECAUSE THE PROPERTY APPRAISER, THE TAX COLLECTOR -- ARE FLOW-THROUGH. THEY COME FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE .

AND WE JUST FUND THEM. THEY GET APPROVED. THE CLERK OF THE COURT AND COMPTROLLERS TALKED ABOUT PUTTING THAT IN PLACE BUT HAS NOT BEEN PUT IN PLACE AS OF YET. PARTED IT IS. THE STATE PART BUT

NOT THE LOCAL KIND OF THING . >> SO STATE IS A STATEWIDE TRIAL

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RESPONSIBILITY FUNDING. >> THE SAME WITH THE SUPERVISORS

. >> THE SUPERVISOR, 100% LOCAL .

>> BUT THEN ON TOP OF THAT, -- I LOST THAT TRAIN OF THOUGHT. DO YOU REMEMBER WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT ?

>> TROY AND I TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME. YOU BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT. WHAT DID YOU SAY COMMISSIONER RENNINGER? I REMEMBER. THE SHERIFF'S ARE 100% LOCAL ALSO. AND THERE ARE ACTUALLY COUNTIES IN THE STATE THAT DON'T GET ALONG WITH THEIR SHERIFF'S. WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE MONEY OR WHATEVER. THE SHERIFF'S ARE BRINGING BUDGET PROPOSALS. THEY ARE NOT FUNDING IT . AND THEY ARE CHOOSING TO PUSH BACK ON IT BECAUSE THE SHERIFF'S CAN APPEAL TO THE GOVERNOR AND THE GOVERNOR CAN SAY , NO, YOU HAVE TO FUND IT. AND SO THERE ARE COUNTIES ENTERTAINING PUTTING THIS THING OUT IN THE PUBLIC SO THAT THE GOVERNOR UNDERSTANDS IT. IT IS PRETTY ALARMING . STARTLING. SO ANYWAY , THAT IS -- TROY AND I TALK A LOT ABOUT THESE THINGS , TAXES AND FUNDING. -- WITH TRANSFERS, THE LIST COMES UP TO $24 MILLION OF STUFF THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO FUND OUTSIDE OF NORMAL COUNTY SERVICES . SO IT IS KIND OF INTERESTING. THE FINAL THING I WANTED TO BRING UP TO YOU , I'M GOING TO ASK CHARISSE AND BETH TO BRING -- I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A CODE CHANGE. WE HAVE THIS REALLY OBSCURE ZONING COLD REAL ESTATE'S. AND IT HAS A REALLY OBSCURE -- CODE AND IT YOU CANNOT HAVE A PRIVACY FENCE IN YOUR FRONT YARD. YOU CAN'T BUT YOU CAN HAVE AN AGRICULTURAL FENCE AND HAS TO BE 4 FEET TALL.

BASICALLY A CHAIN-LINK FENCE. I HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THOSE ZONING STATES. ALMOST ALL HAVE PRIVACY FENCES IN THEIR FRONT YARD. A NEIGHBOR GOT MAD AT ANOTHER NEIGHBOR AND BROUGHT A CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE AGAINST THAT NEIGHBOR . NOWTHAT PERSON HAS 60 DAYS TO COMPLY OR THEY GET A FINE ON THEIR PROPERTY. SHE CALLED ME IN TEARS. SHE WALKS OUT OF HER DOOR AND LITERALLY EVERYONE ON HER STREET HAS PRIVACY FENCES IN THE FRONT YARD. BUT NOBODY TURNED THE CODE -- WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR STEPH TO DO IS LOOK AT, CAN WE DO SOMETHING TO SOFTEN THIS? IT WILL NOT INHIBIT DEVELOPMENT . ITWILL NOT CHANGE. I DON'T THINK IT WILL CHANGE THE LOOK. THIS IS A VERY OBSCURE ZONING. VERY LITTLE OF IT IN THE COUNTY. IF YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO SOFTEN THAT , I THINK IT WOULD

BE WISE. >> WATERFRONT PROPERTY?

>> NO. -- I'M KIND OF SURPRISED IT'S NOT EITHER AR OR RURAL RESIDENTIAL. IT MUST BE A REALLY OLD ZONING.

>> MORE COMPACT . MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT APPLIES VERY LITTLE IN THE COUNTY. MAYBE ONLY MY DISTRICT. I DON'T KNOW.

SO IF ANYBODY DOESN'T OBJECT TO STAFF LOOKING AT THAT . ARE YOU

OKAY WITH THAT? >> ALL RIGHT. IT WILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN URGENCY BECAUSE SHE HAS 60 DAYS. ALTHOUGH I THINK SHE TOLD THE MAGISTRATE I WAS TRYING TO HELP HER SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS HOW SHE GOT 60 DAYS. SHE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET MORE. BUT I AM TRYING TO HELP HER BECAUSE I THINK IT IS WRONG. IF EVERYONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIDN'T HAVE THE FENCE, WE COULD TAKE A LOOK. IS

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