[CALL TO ORDER]
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
[1. Public Hearing to Consider BOA 25-0007]
[2. PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER BOA 25-0008]
[3. PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER BOA 25-0010]
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>> HE WANTED IT TO BE REMOVED TO SELL HIS HOUSE. SO I DID DO THAT
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AS WELL. FOR HIM TO SELL HIS HOUSE. AND THEN WE SOLD THE[00:59:56]
HOUSE THAT'S WHEN AGAIN I ASKED THE NEW OWNER OF THE HOUSE IF HE[00:59:59]
WOULD BE FINE WITH IT THERE AND IT WOULD BE ON HIS PROPERTY BY[01:00:05]
ONE OR 2 FEET, A FOOT AND A HALF, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. HE[01:00:08]
SAID IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. BUT THAT'S WHEN WE FIRST STARTED[01:00:11]
TALKING AND NOW ALL THE BICKERING GOING ON, YOU KNOW,[01:00:15]
THEY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. BEFORE THEN IT WAS NEVER A[01:00:17]
PROBLEM. >> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I
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APPRECIATE THAT. I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR ANYONE ELSE HERE[01:00:38]
WHO WANTS TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST. SEEING NOBODY I WILL CLOSE IT[01:00:40]
AND BRING IT BACK UP. IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS FOR MR. MEYER --[01:00:43]
>> I DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
>> NOPE. >> DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR
ANYTHING? >> SO MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M GOING TO DO FOR YOU ON THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE YOU CLEARLY KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT THE PAST OF THE PROPERTY. SO, I MEAN, HERE IS ULTIMATELY MY OPINION IS THAT THE SHED IS OVER, I MEAN ON THIS SITUATION, THE RULE IS WHAT IT IS. BUT THIS IS ALSO A VERY WEIRD , UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE THAT I HAVE NEVER EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE. I HAVE NOT SEEN THIS IN THE THREE YEARS WE HAVE BEEN UP HERE WITH LITERALLY A SHARED JOINT DRIVEWAY.
>> I GUARANTEE YOU EVERYONE OF THOSE HOUSES, THE FOOTPRINT IS MORE THAN 30%. THEY ARE LITTLE BITTY LOTS.
>> THE FOOTPRINT IS NOT MORE THAN 30%. THE ADDITION. WITH THE ADDITION OF THE SHED IT WOULD BE OVER.
>> YEAH, AND HE DIDN'T PUT THE SHED THERE. I MEAN HE IS NOW CAUGHT UP IN CODE ENFORCEMENT. IT WAS THERE WHEN HE BOUGHT THE HOUSE I'M SURE. SO EVEN IF HE MOVED IT BACK , JENNY, IF HE MOVED IT BACK TO 7 1/2 FEET, HE IS STILL 90 FEET OVER.
>> CANNOT BE ADJUSTED AT ALL? >> THAT IS US TOO.
>> WHICH THERE IS NO REAL HARDSHIP.
>> BUT HE DIDN'T BUILD IT. HE COULD SAY I INHERITED THIS.
>> AND THIS MIGHT BE OFF, BUT I MEAN, IF THAT WAS PUT ON THE PROPERTY BEFORE THIS RULE CAME OUT, IT WASN'T? OKAY. OKAY.
>> I WAS SAYING, IF I WAS REPRESENTING HIM I WOULD SAY, OKAY, OR ME, I WOULD SAY ABOUT THIS PROPERTY AND HAD THAT PROBLEM WHEN I BOUGHT IT. CAN I GET A VARIANTS FOR THE 92 SQUARE FEET. AND IF YOU HAD A LETTER FROM YOUR NEIGHBOR SAYING THAT
IS HUNKY-DORY, -- >> A LETTER FROM THE NEIGHBOR.
>> THAT'S JUST IT, I KNOW. AND, THE WAY THE HOUSES WERE BUILT, THAT'S WHY THEY PARK AT AN ANGLE, BECAUSE YOU NEED THE SPACE BETWEEN HOUSE TO HOUSE TO MAKE A 90 DEGREE TURN TO GET TO YOUR GARAGE. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE BUILDING IS
RIGHT THERE, THE SHED. >> AND THEY CAN'T GO BACK ANY AND TOWARDS THE HOUSE? IT CAN'T COME BACK AND TOWARDS THE HOUSE?
>> THERE IS A LITTLE BIT. >> LIKE RIGHT IN THERE.
>> WELL, THAT'S WHAT JENNY WAS SAYING. MR. MEYER SAID, I CAN SLIDE IT OVER AND THEREFORE MEET THAT PART OF THE ORDINANCE. BUT HE IS STILL OVER AND THAT IS THE REASON JENNY SAID, THEREFORE HE COULD SAY, I WILL MOVE THIS, BUT HE WOULD NEED TO COME BACK TO US -- HE WOULD NEED TO GET THE VARIANTS TO BE OVER THE 30% BY 92 SQUARE FEET. BUT I THINK BY MOVING IT BACK AND OVER IT MIGHT
MORE APPEASE HIS NEIGHBOR. >> I MEAN THE NEIGHBOR, YOU WOULD PROBABLY AGREE IS ULTIMATELY WHAT HE SAID, I'VE GOT ALL HIS TEXT MESSAGES. I HAVE ULTIMATELY HAVE ALL THE TEXT MESSAGES FROM HIM SAYING, AS LONG AS IT'S OFF HIS PROPERTY HE IS FINE WITH IT. HE
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JUST DOESN'T WANT ON HIS PROPERTY ANY LONGER.>> IF IT WERE BUILT IN THAT CONFIGURATION THAT WE COULD SUPPORT IT BECAUSE WE HAVE SEVERAL.
>> WHAT CONFIGURATION? >> IF IT WERE BUILT OVER THE 30% WHICH WE DO HAVE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BUILT OVER. BUT THIS IS JUST
THE AREA -- >> YOU ARE SAYING WHEN THE HOME WAS BUILT IT DIDN'T GO OVER, BUT THE OWNER BEFORE MR. MEYER
PUT THE SHED THERE. >> I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE SHED
WAS PUT THERE. >> OKAY. I KNOW HE IS TAKING IT
OFF . >> JENNY, COULD HE COME IN AND APPLY FOR A VARIANTS TO GO OVER THE 30%?
>> OF COURSE, ANYONE CAN APPLY FOR ANYTHING. WHETHER WE WOULD SUPPORT IT BASED ON THE CRITERIA IN THE CODE --
>> IF HE SAID I OWN THE STRUCTURE, I OWN THIS BUILDING, AND I KNOW IT NEEDS TO BE SEVEN AND HALF FEET OFF, IT NEEDS TO BE -- AND I'M GOING TO PUT IT THERE, BUT WHEN I SAID IT DOWN I'M GOING TO BE OVER THE 30%, COULD, AND STAFF YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR JOB, YOU'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND DENIAL,
>> BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MEET THE CRITERIA.
>> I AGREE COMPLETELY BUT AT LEAST HE HAS A CHANCE BECAUSE, I THINK BASED ON -- I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE BOARD, BUT SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, IF I HAVE TO VOTE TONIGHT I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR DENIAL. BUT KNOWING WHAT I KNOW AND HEARING WHAT I HAVE HEARD, IF HE COULD RELOCATE IT IN THE NEIGHBOR IS OKAY WITH IT, I WOULD PROBABLY VOTE FOR A VARIANTS TO HAVE 92 SQUARE FEET MORE THAN IS ALLOWED ON THE GROUND. I MEAN, --
>> I WOULD AGREE ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY THERE WHEN HE
PURCHASED THE HOUSE. >> RIGHT. HE DIDN'T GO OUT -- HE DIDN'T GO TO BUILDINGS ARE US. IT'S A NICE LOOKING BUILDING IN THE PICTURES. I'M JUST SAYING, --
>> AND YOU'RE USING ALL THE SPACE IN IT?
>> UNFORTUNATELY, YES. >> HE'S USING ALL THE SPACE IN
THE SHED. >> MY GARAGE IS FULL, SO, I MEAN THE SHED IS WHERE ALL MY TOOLS ARE. TO TRY TO GET RID OF IT, PROBABLY, BUT IT WOULD DEFINITELY HURT WHERE I PUT ALL
>> SO MR. CHAIRMAN, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO DO IS SEE IF I COULD GO BACK ON GOOGLE EARTH AND FIND LIKE ANY RECORD OF WHEN IT HAD BEEN PUT THERE, IT HAD BEEN MOVED, YOU DID SAY YOU PURCHASED IT IN 2017, IS THAT CORRECT? THE PROPERTY?
>> 2017 OR 2018. SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.
>> I AM LOOKING AT IMAGERY FROM DECEMBER 2018 AND THAT SHED IS
NOT ON THE PROPERTY. >> I MEAN, I DEFINITELY PURCHASED IT WITH IT. I CAN PROBABLY PULL UP SOME PHOTOS FROM WHERE IT WAS THERE WHEN I PURCHASED.
>> YOU SHOULD HAVE A SURVEY WHEN YOU BOUGHT THE PROPERTY. AND IT
SHOWS THAT OUTBUILDING. >> I DO. I CAN GRAB, THE SURVEYS AT MY HOUSE IN MY PACKET OF PAPERWORK. I DEFINITELY DIDN'T
PURCHASE IT. >> DO YOU KNOW WHEN THESE
PICTURES WERE TAKEN? >> NO, SIR, I DON'T. THEY WERE
PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT. >> THOSE WERE TAKEN WHEN THEY ASKED FOR PHOTOS OF THE FRONT AND BACK AND SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
>> OKAY. >> WHAT IS THE ADDRESS AGAIN ON
THIS ONE? >> I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU MY RECOMMENDATION, MY TWO CENTS WORTH. IF YOU REALLY NEED THIS BUILDING, I THINK YOUR ONLY WAY OF GETTING IT POSSIBLY , AND THERE'S NO GUARANTEE, BUT POSSIBLY WOULD BE FOR YOU TO PULL IT OVER TOWARDS YOUR HOUSE MORE AND PULL BACK AS FAR AS YOU CAN TO GET YOUR NEIGHBOR HAPPY. TO WHERE THEY DON'T WRITE A LETTER TO US RECOMMENDING DENIAL. BUT IN FACT WRITE SOMETHING THAT SAYS, THEY ARE FINE WITH IT. AND THEN YOU COME TO THIS STAFF AND SAY, OKAY, I AM OVER BY SO MANY SQUARE FEET
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AND I AM APPLYING FOR A VARIANTS TO THAT PART. OF THE CODE.BECAUSE IN YOU WOULD JUST BE OVER BY 92 SQUARE FEET. I'M NOT SAYING DO THAT, AND WE ARE GOING TO PROVE IT. BUT I THINK THAT IS THE ONLY WAY YOU HAVE ANY SHOT AT GETTING APPROVED. OTHERWISE, I DON'T DIG IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. AND I'M NOT SAYING ALL OF THESE ARE -- I'M NOT EVEN SAYING THEY ARE THINGS YOU CREATED. YOU INHERITED SOME OF THEM. BUT UNFORTUNATELY YOU'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH IT. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY I SEE --
>> WHEN I APPLY AGAIN, BECAUSE --
>> THAT HE COME BACK AND MODIFY HIS APPLICATION?
>> I KNOW IF HE APPLIES AGAIN HE'S GOT TO PAY A FEE AND ALL
AGAIN? >> AND HAPPY TO PUT A SIGN UP,
THE ONLY PEOPLE -- >> YEAH. RESPECTIVELY PEOPLE WHO
ARE GOING TO SEE ARMY NEIGHBORS. >> WE CONTINUE THIS UNTIL WHENEVER THINGS HAPPEN AND HE COMES BACK TO US? I MEAN, JENNY, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I SEE MR. MYERS HAVING ANY CHANCE OF
GETTING AN APPROVAL. >> CHAIR, IF I MAY, IN LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S PHOTOGRAPH, THE SHED ISN'T
THERE. >> I WAS LOOKING AT THAT TOO.
>> IS THAT NOT THE SHED THERE? >> IT LOOKS LIKE A SHED. I AM SEEING THE SHADOW LINES COMING ACROSS. IT LOOKS LIKE THE SHADOWLANDS OFF THE HOUSE. WHEN IS A PHOTOGRAPH TAKEN?
>> I'M NOT SURE. THAT THE BUILD DATE. 2005. OF COURSE THIS IS THE DAY. TO ME THAT LOOKS LIKE -- I THINK THAT IS HIS SHED
RIGHT THERE. >> AND IT'S ON THE SURVEY.
>> YEAH, -- >> AND IT'S NOT SHOWING
INDISCERNIBLE ]. >> AND THIS WAS DONE IN -- CAN YOU READ? IT'S KIND OF A FUZZY,.
>> JANUARY 21, 2017. >> MR. MYERS, THERE IS A SURVEY HERE I GUESS THIS IS FROM YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE AND IT SHOWS 2017 AND IT DOESN'T SHOW THE SHED. SO, THE ONLY WAY I WOULD RECOMMEND TO YOU WOULD EVEN FLY IS YOU HAVE TO SOMEHOW PROVE TO US THAT THAT SHED WAS THERE WHEN YOU BOUGHT THE PROPERTY. BE IT BY SURVEY, WE ARE LOOKING AT AERIALS BUT
THEY'RE NOT THAT GOOD. >> IT IS SHOWING IT IN THE LISTING PICTURES. SO IT WAS THERE.
>> AND IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE SHOWN IN THE SURVEY. I KNOW JOHNNY, THE SURVEYOR, AND HE DOES A GOOD JOB OF FOR SOME
REASON DIDN'T SHOW IT. MA'AM? >>
>> I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DIDN'T SHOW THE SHED. BUT YEAH, IS THAT THE MLS LISTING FOR WHEN HE BOUGHT IT? THE SHED IS THERE.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I COULD SEE WE COULD APPROVE IT. GET YOUR NEIGHBOR HAPPY AND SLIDE IT OVER AND THEN COME BACK THAT WAY.
WITH WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR RIGHT NOW I DON'T SEE ANY WAY
WE CAN DO IT. >> HE BOUGHT IT IN MARCH 2017.
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>> OKAY, CAN YOU TELL A DATE? >> THIS IS 2020.
>> WHEN I GOT IT THE SHED WAS RED AND BLACK. AND I HAD IT PAINTED TO MATCH THE HOUSE. TO MAKE IT MORE AESTHETIC.
>> THIS IS THE REASON WE HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD.
BECAUSE I AM AMAZED THAT SHE CAN FIND STUFF FROM WAY BACK THEN.
>> I THINK REGARDLESS OF IF WE CAN FIND FROM THAT TIME OR NOT, I THINK IT'S TO BE ULTIMATELY BE THE SAME OUTCOME. I'M NOT SURE IF HE IS ALLOWED TO MAKE THAT MOTION SINCE HE IS THE CHAIR OR IF IT HAS TO BE ONE OF US.
>> I THINK HE CAN MAKE A MOTION. >> TO CONTINUE THIS? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS TO ALLOW MR. MYERS TO FIND MORE EVIDENCE. WE'RE TRYING TO FIND IF THERE IS ANYWAY POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD ALLOW HIM TO KEEP THIS THING.
OTHERWISE I THINK WE HAVE TO SAY GET RID OF THE STRUCTURE AND ALL OF THAT AND I KNOW YOUR GARAGE IS FULL THE SHED IS FULL. THAT
IS MY MOTION. >> I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION,
MR. CHAIRMAN. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FOR CONTINUANCE. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? AND YOU CAN WORK WITH STAFF TO SEE, WHEN YOU CAN GET IT MOVED AND GO THROUGH YOUR FILES AND SEE , YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT HERE JUST TRYING TO HURT PEOPLE. BUT THEN AGAIN, I MEAN, YOU INHERITED SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS BUT ONCE AGAIN, WE TRY TO FIND WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO GET WHAT THEY NEED BUT SOMETIMES THERE IS JUST NO WAY. OKAY. VERY GOOD. WE APPROVED ONE AND CONTINUED TWO. THANK YOU, MR.
MYERS. NOW I'M GOING TO OPEN -- >>
>> OKAY, SOUNDS GOOD, THANK YOU.
>> NOW I'M GOING TO OPEN THE SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT, SEEING NO ONE IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT HERE. I WILL CLOSE. AND BRING IT BACK TO US. WHEN IS OUR NEXT MEETING? AUGUST 28. THAT IS STILL GOING TO BE AT 5:00? WHAT DID YOU HAVE ON THERE BEFORE I CONTINUED? DO WE HAVE 1:00, 2:00, SIX? HOW MANY DID YOU HAVE FOR AUGUST?
>> READY TO COME BACK , THE FIRST GENTLEMAN THAT IS GOING TO BE OUT OF TOWN. WE SAID FINE. THAT'S FINE. YEAH, OKAY. ME?
>> AGAIN? MINUTES. DO
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