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ALL RIGHT WITH IT BEING 530, WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
AND? FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS WILL BE APPROVAL OF
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THE MINUTES. HAS EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING? YES. AND IF SO, I WILL ENTERTAIN A. MOTION TO ACCEPT.THERE'S A MISSPELLING OF MY NAME IN ONE PART OF IT.
BUT DOES THAT. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A ISSUE OR NOT.
IT'S GOOD QUESTION. YEAH. I THINK IT WAS WHEN YOU INTRODUCED HER.
ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT CORRECTION, I DO. I HAVE A MOTION.
SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTAIN.
I WASN'T HERE, SO I CAN'T REALLY COMMENT ON IT.
OKAY. SO CARRIED. OKAY. PUBLIC COMMENTS. IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WISH TO SPEAK? PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE OPEN. SEEING NONE. PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.
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AND NOW WE ARE ON TO. THE OLD BUSINESS.WE WILL GO TO JERRY AND FORT 11. ANY UPDATES ON THAT ONE? OKAY. WELL, I MEAN, THE THE DOCUMENTATION KEEPS DRIBBLING IN.
FOR EXAMPLE, WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THAT PROMINENT INDIAN MOUND THAT COULD BE MENTIONED? BUT I GUESS TO REVISIT THE THING. DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHETHER THE PEOPLE IN KEYSTONE OR WE FOR THAT MATTER, WANTED IT TO BE A TWO SIDED OR ONE SIDED? THAT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE? WE WERE GOING TO TRY.
WE WERE GOING. WE ORIGINALLY TRIED TO DO IT AS A ONE SIDED, BUT THERE WAS SO MUCH STUFF THAT WE OKAY, WE KIND OF FELT THAT IT PROBABLY DESERVES A TWO SIDED.
YEAH. WHICH, BY THE WAY, I HOPE WE'LL GET AROUND TO REVIEWING WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE STATE REVIEW BOARD THAT'S SUPPOSED TO APPROVE OR NOT? THESE THINGS, WHETHER WE'VE HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THEM GETTING THEIR QUORUM.
YES, SIR. I JUST SENT AN EMAIL OUT AND GOT A RESPONSE FROM THEM.
SO AND OF COURSE THEY'VE GOT A BACKLOG. SO I'M GOING TO SEND THIS TO YOU.
THIS IS THE CURRENT AGENDA. I MAY HAVE GIVEN YOU AN OLD ONE.
NO ASK YET. OKAY. OKAY. WE CAN CONTINUE. GO BACK.
OKAY. SO YES, WE ARE WAITING. I GUESS YOU HAVE TIME TO. WELL, YEAH, THE TWO SIDED. IF IT IS STILL TO BE TWO SIDED, I WILL HAVE MORE ROOM TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE, MOVE THINGS AROUND TO PUT THE BEST FACE.
BEST, BEST FACE FORWARD. OKAY ON IT, BUT IS IT.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE'D ACTUALLY BE. IS IT, IS IT ONE OF THE ONES THAT IS IN THE PIPELINE TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE YES BOARD? IF YOU LOOK RIGHT HERE, YOU'LL SEE ON THE BUDGET FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS OR COMING YEARS.
GOODY GOODY. IT IS. WE HAVE IT AS A ONE SIDED, SINGLE SIDED.
DO WE? OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I PUT IN. IF YOU WANT TWO SIDED.
OBVIOUSLY WE CHANGE THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO. IT LOOKS LIKE IT 3000 WOULD BE TWO SIDED RIGHT? NO NO NO NOT ANYMORE. IT WENT UP RECENTLY. WELL OKAY.
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WELL, I GUESS WE SHOULD SETTLE. WE DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET.RIGHT? WELL WE DO. WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND I THINK WE'RE GOING WE'RE GOING TO HIT THIS HERE IN JUST A MINUTE. BUT DO YOU WANT TO, BETH, GIVE A QUICK EXPLANATION OF IT? GO BACK TO THE BUDGET AND WORK PLAN. OKAY. SO THIS WAY.
OH, THIS. OH, YEAH. I SHOULD PASS IT. SO WHAT I SHARED WITH YOU FOR TODAY'S MEETING.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS KIND OF IN THE PAST, LOOKING AT A BUDGET AND KIND OF DEVELOPING A PLAN FOR WHAT YOU WANT TO DO FOR THE THE UPCOMING YEAR. SO WE'RE HEADING INTO BUDGET SEASON FOR THE WITH THE COUNTY.
THEY'RE COMMITTED, BUT WE HAVEN'T TIED ANY FUNDING TO IT.
WE HAVEN'T TIED UP ANY PURCHASE ORDERS OR ANYTHING.
WE DON'T DO THAT UNTIL THEY'RE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL.
BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE CARRIED OVER THE BROWNFIELD ONE WE WERE ABLE TO GET ADDITIONAL BUDGET OF TEN TOTAL OF 10,000 FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. BUT NOW THAT THAT ONE HASN'T BEEN HEARD AND WE'VE SUBMITTED THE MIDDLEBURG OR WE'LL BE SUBMITTING THE MIDDLEBURG COLORED SCHOOL AS WELL AS THE SAINT MARY'S EPISCOPAL CHURCH. WE'RE LOOKING AT A SIGNIFICANT CARRYOVER WHICH OUR BUDGET DEPARTMENT IS AWARE OF, THAT THERE'S NO GUARANTEES, BUT THEY HAVE THEY'RE HOPEFULLY GOING TO HELP US WITH A BUDGET CARRY OVER TO THE 17,150, WHICH NORMALLY OUR BUDGET IS 7500 TYPICALLY. BUT THIS WOULD HELP COVER THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED OR IN THE WORKS.
NOW, WHAT'S NOT IN THE WORKS? IT'S IN THE WORKS.
AS FAR AS YOU WORKING ON THE WORDING OF IT, BUT IT'S NOT AT THE POINT OF SUBMITTAL YET.
I DID PUT IT IN THERE JUST AS A MARKER TO HOLD THE SPOT AS WELL AS THE MIDDLEBURG MUSEUM.
SO IF WE WERE TO FUND ALL OF THOSE IN NEXT YEAR, THAT'S WHERE YOUR TOTAL IS COMING IN.
GOOD. BUT THOSE ARE SINGLE SIDED. THE THE DOUBLE SIDED IS NOW 3510.
AND THAT LEAVES YOU IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS HERE.
SO THE NAPC MEMBERSHIP IS GOING UP FROM 150 TO 200 FOR NEXT YEAR.
SAINT MARY'S AGAIN 2500, UP TO 3070. MIDDLEBURG COLORED SCHOOL, WHICH IS TWO SIDED, IS THE 3510.
4 TO 11 IS 3070 FOR A SINGLE SIDE. MIDDLEBURG MUSEUM 3070.
THAT BASICALLY OUT OF THE 17 150 THAT WAS REQUESTED, THAT LEAVES YOU 1160 FOR OTHER SIGNS OR WHATEVER YOU CARE TO DO. AND SO I PUT THESE NUMBERS FORTH TO YOU.
BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME NUMBERS SO YOU COULD THINK ABOUT WITH BILLY'S INFORMATION, THE OTHER SIGNS THAT WE LOOKED AT, POTENTIALLY WHAT YOU COULD BE WORKING ON FOR YOUR YEAR, YOU COULD COMMIT TO DOING FIVE STREET SIGNS OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. BUT THIS IS A TENTATIVE NUMBER TO LOOK AT.
SO AS FAR AS TIMELINES GO HAVE WE FOUND OUT YOU SAID THE SUMMER IS WHEN THEY'LL CONSIDER.
BUT WITH THE TURNOVER LIKE THAT WOULD BE AS FAR AS THE APPROVAL PROCESS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THEY REVIEW AT ONE TIME.
WE HAVE TWO SUBMITTED THAT ARE PART OF 50. THAT'S WHAT THEY HAD TOLD ME A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.
I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER PLACES HAVE CONTINUED TO SUBMIT.
IT'S GOING TO BE A WHILE BEFORE THEY CATCH UP.
OKAY. SO THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION ON THE FUNDING AND WHAT WE HAVE GOING FORWARD INTO NEXT YEAR.
THE. EVERYBODY CLEAR ON OUR BUDGET OR THE PROPOSED OR PROPOSED BUDGET? SO, BILLY YOU WERE GOING TO COME BACK WITH COSTS OF
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SIGNS. SO COULD THAT BE INFORMATION TO BE SHARED SO THAT LET ME PULL THAT UP REAL QUICK.IF YOU WANTED TO, YOU COULD COME UP WITH A PLAN TO DECIDE.
WELL, WE'RE GOING TO PICK SO MANY PROJECTS. OKAY.
IN FRONT OF Y'ALL. Y'ALL SHOULD HAVE A COUPLE HANDOUTS I PUT UP IN FRONT OF YOU.
THE BLACK AND WHITE AS THOSE THAT WERE HERE LAST THE MEETING SAW THE ACTUAL SIGN IN THE BUILDING.
Y'ALL PROPOSED SOME CHANGES, AND I TOOK ALL Y'ALL'S SUGGESTIONS AND CAME UP WITH THIS NEW DESIGN.
YOU MEAN THIS THIS THING? NO, THE THE BLACK. THE BLACK AND WHITE ONE THAT THE BLACK AND WHITE ONE WOULD BE A PLACEHOLDER MARKER. COOL. OR COUNTY MARKER. I DIDN'T PUT THE TWO TOGETHER.
YEAH, AND THE BROWN ONE WOULD BE A WAYFARING SIGN TO SHOW TO DIRECT YOU TO THE MARKER FROM THE ROAD. SO, LIKE, FOR MR. FORMAN'S HISTORICAL SITE MARKER.
BECAUSE IT SITS OFF THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT OFF THE ROAD WE WOULD PUT.
WE ALREADY HAVE THESE SIGNS UP NOW. WE WOULD JUST BE UPGRADING THEM TO THIS FORMAT, BUT THIS FORMAT WOULD WITH THE SIGN AND RAIL WOULD RUN, USE BETWEEN 80 AND $100, DEPENDING ON THE MATERIALS THAT ALL THE MATERIALS WE HAD TO RUN. THE OTHER ONE, I BELIEVE I SENT THE COST TO BETH ON THAT ONE.
WHICH ONE IS THE 80 TO $100? THE BROWN ONE. THE BROWN ONE? YES. OKAY. NOT TO THROW ANOTHER MONKEY WRENCH INTO THE INTO THE DISCUSSION, BUT SOME YEARS AGO, WE WERE TOLD THAT THE COUNTY'S PLAN FOR THESE SMALLER LOCAL SIGNS WAS TO EMBED AT THE BOTTOM AN EMAIL OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER CONTACT, SO THAT PEOPLE WHO REALLY WANTED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT IT COULD LOOK UP THIS REFERENCED LINK, BUT I'VE NEVER HEARD MORE ABOUT THAT.
ARE THEY STILL THINKING OF DOING THAT? WE COULD PUT A QR CODE ON IT THAT WOULD LINK TO MORE INFORMATION, BUT IT HASN'T. YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
AND THEY ARE THEY STILL LOOKING FOR NEW MANAGEMENT FOR THAT.
THEY HAVE HIRED A NEW DIRECTOR. BUT WHAT THEY HAD BELOW THIS SIGN WAS A LITTLE ADDITIONAL SIGN THAT SAID EXPLORE CLAYCOMB, I THINK WAS WHAT WAS THERE. AND SO A QR CODE, WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING, YOU DON'T WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE NECESSARILY TO BE.
SO THAT WAS THE GOAL. IF IT'S BEEN DECIDED THAT IT'S REALLY PROBABLY IS NOT NOT WORTH THE TRADE OFF.
THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO KNOW. YEAH, WELL, THEY WOULD WANT TO HAVE.
NOW, CERTAINLY WE CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE NEW DIRECTOR. AND THIS IS ALL VERY TENTATIVE.
THIS IS JUST TO GET AN IDEA. THIS HAS TO BE BLESSED BY COMMUNICATIONS, OUR OUR INTERNAL STAFF.
SO WHEN SOMEONE WENT THERE, THERE WAS FURTHER INFORMATION, AND IN WHICH CASE THAT WOULD KIND OF REQUIRE YOU ALL TO PERHAPS HELP IF YOU COULD, IF YOU HAD TIME TO WRITE SOME INFORMATION, THEY WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE ASSISTANCE ON IT.
AND FOR PRICING FOR THE BLACK AND WHITE SIGN MARKER SIGN FOR DOUBLE SIDED IS 204.
ONE SIDED IS 150 MW. WOW, WHAT A BARGAIN. THAT'S REALLY GOOD.
BUT SO I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO ASK MAUREEN ABOUT HER THOUGHTS ON THAT.
I'M SURE THAT THE ANONYMOUS DONOR WHO ALREADY OFFERED THE 75 WOULD GO TO 200.
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WHY NOT? SO THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE ONE THAT IS THE.THAT IS THE EXAMPLE. THE MILBERG COLORED SCHOOL WOULD BE OUR FIRST ONE THAT WE WOULD DO.
AND BECAUSE, LIKE WE ALL KNOW, THERE'S A BACKLOG OF MARKERS FOR THE STATE.
AND THEN AS WE CAN GO BACK AND UPDATE THEM OR UPGRADE THEM WITH STATE MARKERS DEPENDING ON FUNDING.
AND WHAT'S THE SIZE OF THESE? THE SIZE. THE SIZE OF THREE BY FOUR, THREE FEET BY FOUR FEET.
OKAY. ROUGHLY THE SAME SIZE AS THE STATE MARKER.
THAT'S REALLY NICE. SO THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS FOR THOSE.
AGAIN IF YOU ALL ARE HAPPY WITH THE CHANGES TO THE MARKER, THEN WE CAN WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH GETTING THE BLESSING FROM COMMUNICATIONS AND THE REST OF THE COUNTY STAFF.
JUST ONE LITTLE THING. THERE'S A PERIOD AT THE END OF SIDE TWO MISSING THE VERY LAST PERIOD.
THAT'S EASY FIX. EASY TO FIX. EASY TO LOSE. THE HISTORICAL PLACES? YEAH, I'LL FIX THAT ON THE SAVED COPY. AND THERE'S ALSO A TYPO ON THE TWO WHERE IT SAYS BY THE LATE 1950S, CLAY SCHOOL BOARD PLANNED E03I THINK IT SHOULD BE A YEAH.
SO HERE BY 1950. I'LL READ THIS VERY CAREFULLY TOMORROW MORNING.
YES. AND YOU CAN SHOOT BETH. ANY CORRECTIONS AND WE'LL DO.
I'LL MAKE THE CORRECTIONS AND COMPUTER. THANKS.
OR DOES IT NEED RISE TO THE LEVEL OF A STATE MARKER, BUT IS CULTURAL OR HISTORICAL OR HISTORICAL TO CLAY COUNTY THAT YOU KNOW MIGHT BE OF MIGHT BE IT MAY THE FUNDS MAY BE BETTER SPENT WITH JUST DOING A COUNTY MARKER VERSUS A STATE. ABSOLUTELY.
WELL, DO AND ALSO I MEAN LIKE SOME OF THE LIKE JUST LIKE SOME OF THE, THE HISTORICAL CEMETERIES.
YOU KNOW, THEY MAY, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE SMALLER FAMILY TYPE CEMETERIES MIGHT NOT RAISE TO THE, YOU KNOW, LEVEL OF A STATE MARKER, BUT THEY STILL NEED THEIR STORIES TOLD.
RIGHT. AND THIS WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO DO IT.
ABSOLUTELY. DO THESE TWO PRIOR THE BRANDON FIELD AND THE SAINT MARY'S, ARE THOSE GOING TO RISE TO THE LEVEL THAT WILL THOSE TWO ARE ALREADY SUBMITTED. SO I WOULD ASSUME THOSE WOULD KIND OF GET APPROVED A LOT QUICKER THAN IN THE MIDDLEBURG COLORED SCHOOL OR FORT 11, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY SUBMITTED THOSE TO YET.
SO THERE WOULD BE A LONGER PROCESS FOR THOSE TO.
EVEN SUBMITTED THE TURNOVER TIME UNTIL WE HAVE A PHYSICAL SIGN IN LIKE A DAY.
OH, GOSH. SORRY. I USUALLY FROM THE TIME THEY APPROVE IT AND WE CAN GET A PURCHASE ORDER, CUT FOR IT AND GET IT ALL ORDERED IS PROBABLY AROUND SIX MONTHS I WOULD THINK.
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I THINK IT'S 20 WEEKS. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. FROM ACCEPTANCE FOR PRODUCTION TIME.YEAH, IT'S IT'S FOR THESE SIGNS. 20 WEEKS. NO, NO, FOR THE STATE OF THE STATE.
I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT'S A LONG TIME. THESE THESE I CAN HAVE READY IN A DAY.
SO. SO AS FAR AS BUDGET GOES, DO WE WANT TO TAKE THE TWO SIGNS UP FRONT, THE BRANDON FIELD AND THE SAINT MARY'S, AND ADD THAT INTO OUR BUDGET AND THEN THE SIGNS AS WELL.
SO WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A PLACE TO REALLY PUT PUT IT UP JUST YET.
AS WE'RE WITH THE MIDDLEBURG COLOR SCHOOL, WE ALREADY HAVE A LOCATION.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF SIMPLE INSTALLATION. ONCE THE DESIGN IS APPROVED.
SAINT MARY'S, THAT'S THAT'S A ONE SIDED SIGN.
WASN'T THAT GOING TO BE A ONE SIDED SIGN? SO THAT WOULD BE.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT AS A BOARD IF Y'ALL WANTED TO DO IT.
OR MAYBE THE CHURCH WOULD BE WILLING TO HAVE A TEMPORARY SIGN.
MAYBE THEY WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER FUNDING THAT.
DON'T THEY HAVE A NATIONAL REGISTER SIGN THERE ALREADY IN THAT AREA? THEY PROBABLY DO BECAUSE THEY ARE REGISTERED.
BECAUSE I'M THINKING ABOUT HUNTER DOUGLAS PARK AND THIS IS YEAR FIVE WITH NO SIGN THAT SAYS HUNTER DOUGLAS PARK WITHOUT THOSE VERY SMALL SIGNS THAT YOU GUYS PUT UP. SO I MEAN, OUTSIDE OF THE SIGNS THAT YOU PUT UP AND THE WAYFARER SIGNS, THERE ARE NO SIGNS FOR THAT PARK. YEAH, WELL, THAT IS WITH PARKS AND RECS.
YEAH. THAT'S THEIR. THEY NEED THAT IS THERE. I HAVE REACHED OUT TO THEM BEFORE ABOUT PARK SIGNAGE, AND I WAS TOLD THAT THEY WERE WORKING ON A MASTER PLAN FOR.
YEAH, WHERE THAT'S AT. I DON'T KNOW, BUT THE MASTER PLAN IS COMPLETE, SO.
BUT BEYOND THAT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON FOR SIGNAGE.
I CAN CHECK WITH JUSTIN PIERCE AND SEE WHAT. SO.
SO THE YOU HAVE WAYFINDING SIGNS TO GET THERE.
YOU PUT SIGNS ON BLANDING DIDN'T YOU? AND YEAH, WE PUT UP A TEMPORARY KIND OF A TEMPORARY ONE UNTIL THEY FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO BECAUSE AS THE DOCTOR WAS SAYING, THERE WAS SCHOOL KIDS GOING OUT THERE AND PEOPLE GOING OUT THERE, AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO GET TO HUNTER DOUGLAS.
SO WE JUST PUT UP A KIND OF A TEMPORARY ONE UNTIL PARKS AND REC DECIDES WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
AND AT THAT DAY IT WAS RAINING HARD. 50 SOME KIDS ON A SCHOOL BUS THAT COULDN'T TURN AROUND, AND THEY LITERALLY AFTERWARD HAD TO BACK OUT FOR A LONG WAY.
IT WAS FRIGHTENING. SO? SO THE BROWN SIGNS THERE ONE SIDED? YES. OKAY. AND SO TO THINK OF IT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ONE IN EACH DIRECTION OF TRAFFIC.
SO FOR EACH SITE IT WOULD TAKE TWO SIGNS PER EACH SITE.
OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING TOO. AND WE DID YOU SEE THE EMAIL FROM SHARIF ON THE COST ON THAT ONE? BETH? YES.
WHERE DO YOU SEE THE COST OF GOODS? SIGNS WOULD BE LIKE A THREE WAY SPLIT.
SHE WAS THINKING. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S OFFICIAL YET.
OR NOT. OKAY. BUT. WELL, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT THE MORE WE GET.
IF WE CAN GET APPROVALS BY STAFF AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO SEVEN SIGNS, WHICH SEVEN WILL THEY BE? AND THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST TO HELP YOU GET SOME DIRECTION.
OKAY. WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON BEING THAT IT'S BUDGET SEASON? WE THE BUDGET GETS ADOPTED. GOODNESS. I BELIEVE SEPTEMBER.
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IT GOES INTO EFFECT OCTOBER 1ST. SO WE'RE BEGINNING MAY, LIKE NEXT WEEK.WE HAVE A DAY WHEN WE'RE WORKING ON THE BUDGET AS STAFF.
SO WHEN DO WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR STUFF IN ORDER? WE HAVEN'T FORMALLY SUBMITTED THIS IN THE PAST.
THIS HAS BEEN WORKING WITH OUR BUDGET AND FINANCE OMB TEAM.
AND IN TALKING WITH THEM AND RELAYING OUR SITUATION WITH THE MARKERS BEING ON HOLD BECAUSE OF THE COUNCIL I'VE TALKED WITH THEM ABOUT GETTING THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO COVER WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, WHAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE CURRENT MARKERS.
SO WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL THE BUDGET'S FORMALLY ADOPTED WHAT YOUR NUMBER IS GOING TO BE.
BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'VE GOTTEN A LITTLE PROMISE ON.
BUT YOU KNOW THIS. THE WORLD WE'RE IN, THERE'S NO GUARANTEES UNTIL IT'S FORMALLY APPROVED.
SO IF WE DO NOT ACT, THEN BRENNAN FIELD AND SAINT MARY'S WILL JUST BE KIND OF CONTINUED AS THEY MEET, LIKE DURING THIS BUDGET SEASON. THEY'RE MEETING ON THE STATE LEVEL.
SO IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING OUT, THEN THOSE JUST CONTINUE TO GET PROCESSED.
THOSE THOSE ARE IN THE STATE. THEY'RE THEY'RE IN THERE TO BE REVIEWED AT THIS POINT ALREADY.
AND MIDDLEBURG IS NEXT. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PRACTICALLY READY TO GET THAT, I WOULD ASSUME.
YEAH. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED? I'M WAITING ON A COUPLE PETITIONS.
OKAY. AND I JUST HAVE TO EDIT THE EXPLANATION FOR THE MOVED BUILDING.
YEP. OKAY. SO, EVERYBODY GET ON THE BUDGET AND WORK PLAN DISCUSSION.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY MORE DISCUSSIONS? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON.
NOMINATION COMMITTEE FOR OFFICERS. WHAT? UNDER.
ARTICLE SEVEN, SECTION 1207 OF THE COUNTY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION IS THE FORM OF NOMINATING COMMITTEE, NO LATER THAN APRIL, TO PRODUCE PROPOSED STATE OF CANDIDATES FOR CHAIRMAN, CHAIRPERSON AND VICE CHAIRPERSON FOR THE MAY MEETING.
IF NOT, WE'LL JUST MOVE FORWARD. YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEERS TO WRITE VOLUNTEERS.
YOU CAN SELF NOMINATE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO. MELISSA, I'M TEASING YOU.
I'M SORRY. YEAH. I'D LIKE TO SEE MELISSA. OKAY, SO WE HAVE ME AGAIN AS CHAIRMAN AND SEAN AS VICE CHAIRMAN. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISH TO THROW THEIR NAME IN TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE? NO, TO BE THE CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN.
OH, NO. ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO THROW THEIR NAME ON THE LIST? OKAY. IF NOT, THEN WE WILL CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS.
AND I GUESS THOSE WILL BE. DONE FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
SO WOULD YOU FORM THE COMMITTEE? RIGHT. WELL, WE REALLY DIDN'T FORM A COMMITTEE.
WE JUST KIND OF TOOK NOMINATIONS FROM THE FLOOR.
SO. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO BACK TO HISTORICAL MARKERS. DOCTOR, DO YOU WANT TO GO OVER THE MILLBERG COLOR SCHOOL? YOU KIND OF. I KNOW YOU JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY WENT OVER IT, BUT.
YEAH. SO WE HAVE JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING WORKED, GETTING IT TO BATH.
WE'RE WAITING ON A COUPLE OF MORE PETITIONS TO FROM SAINT MARK'S CHURCH.
AND THERE'S ANOTHER CHURCH IN THE MIDDLEBURG AREA.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE COLLECTION FROM THAT MUSEUM IS STILL IN BOXES.
AND THE DELTA PHI BETA SORORITY THAT MAUD BELONGS TO HAS STEPPED UP TO VOLUNTEER. AND WE'RE GOING TO START PROCESSING ALL OF THOSE MATERIALS NEXT WEEK,
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WE EXPECT IT'LL PROBABLY TAKE TWO MONTHS, MAYBE THREE.AND AT THAT POINT, WE WILL BE WORKING ON AS WE'RE, AS WE'RE PROCESSING, PROCESSING THE COLLECTION ON FINDING STORAGE OUTSIDE THE COUNTY. NOT OUTSIDE THE COUNTY LIMITS, BUT OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY BUILDINGS. OKAY. SO THAT WORK CAN REALLY GET STARTED ON THE PRESERVATION OF THAT BUILDING.
OKAY. OKAY. JERRY, WE'RE BACK TO YOU FOR THE MIDDELBURG AND.
YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S BEEN AS FAR AS THE TEXT OF THE SIGN THE, THE MISSING PIECE THAT I'M TRYING TO WRAP UP IS WHO EXACTLY IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FUNDED THIS PROJECT, WHICH OF COURSE IS A FAIRLY IMPORTANT ELEMENT IN THE.
THE SIGN THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT WAS A CREATION PARTLY OF DONATION BY THE LOCAL FIRST FAMILY, LIKE LIKE THE BODDINGTONS WHO DONATED THE LAND, BUT THE REST WAS CLEARLY SUPPLIED BY THE FEDS.
AND YET WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE SO FAR TO FIND AN ACTUAL SMOKING GUN.
I DID VISIT A WEEK AGO THE ARCHIVE WHERE I HAD NOTICED THERE WAS AN EXTRA VOLUME OF COUNTY MINUTES FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME, BUT I WAS SHOOED OUT OF THERE BECAUSE THEY DECIDED THEY WERE BOTH GOING TO TAKE A LUNCH AT THE SAME TIME.
SO I'LL LAY SIEGE TO IT SHORTLY AND HOPEFULLY.
BUT IF NOT, WE CAN JUST SIMPLY CLOSE OUT THE TEXT PART OF THE PICTURE BY SAYING FEDERAL FUNDS.
OKAY. YOU KNOW, NOT TRYING TO SPECIFY WPA OR WHATEVER.
I ASKED MY RESEARCH BUDDY KEVIN HOOPER TO HAVE A LOOK IF HE COULD WHEN HE WAS IN D.C.
FOR OTHER RESEARCH A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. BUT HE GOT SO MUCH OTHER STUFF THAT HE FOUND.
HE DIDN'T GET AROUND TO THAT. AND I MUST SAY, WHEN I LOOKED FOR ANYTHING RELATING TO WPA MATERIAL YEARS AGO AT THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES, IT WAS A MESS. YOU KNOW, SO IT'S SORT OF A NEEDLE IN THE HAYSTACK, IF IT EXISTS AT ALL AT THAT END OF THINGS.
NOW I THINK I HAD A I HAD A BRIEF CORRESPONDENCE.
ABOUT WHAT ELSE WE NEED. AND I WAS TOLD THAT SOMETHING ELSE, SOME DOCUMENTATION WAS.
SO IF IT'S THE CASE THAT BETH IS NOT SITTING ON THE DOCUMENTATION THAT THEY SUBMITTED, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WHEN YOU WERE, YOU KNOW, OUT ON SOME OTHER ASSIGNMENT.
BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT, I HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY GAVE ME A DUPLICATE SET OF DOCUMENTATION.
SO IF THAT IS A PROBLEM. SO I GUESS THE OTHER THING TO MAKE SURE OF IS WHAT ELSE DO WE NEED? DID DID DID BILLY MAKE A SURVEY OF WHERE IT WOULD GO? THE SIGN WOULD GO. WELL, WE HAVEN'T DECIDED IF IT WAS GOING TO BE ONE SIGN OR TWO SIGNS.
ONE FOR THE CIVIC CENTER AND ONE FOR THE MUSEUM.
I THINK THAT BECAUSE YOU WERE THE ONE THAT WAS, I THINK, TRYING TO STUFF IT INTO ONE SIDE, BUT I WILL. OH, BUT THEY WANTED IT TO HAVE TWO SIDES SO THAT YOU COULD SEE IT FROM, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY THE SAME TEXT FROM BOTH BOTH SIDES, WHICH GETS BACK INTO THE, YOU KNOW, THE VICIOUS CYCLE.
SO YEAH. SO BUT OTHER THAN THAT, ASSUMING WE CAN DECIDE IT'S GOING TO BE TWO SIDED OR ONE SIDE REPEATED, MAYBE IN TWO.
SO I GUESS WE CAN HAVE THE ONE SIDED CRITTER DUPLICATED, YOU KNOW AT THE, AT THE SIDE WHERE YOU WOULD GO TO THE CIVIC CENTER, WHICH IS MAINLY ON PALMETTO, I THINK.
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AND WHEREAS THE MIDDELBURG MUSEUM IS USUALLY APPROACHED BY A SECTION STREET.WHATEVER. SO. WELL, ALL RIGHT. SO IS ANYTHING ELSE, IN THE OPINION OF THE COUNTY LACKING TO GET THE THING? ACTUALLY IN THE, IN THE PIPELINE BESIDES THESE THINGS.
SO WE NEED THE MARKER TEXT. I DON'T BELIEVE YOU'VE SUBMITTED MARKER TEXT TO ME.
SUBMITTED THE WHAT? THE MARKER TEXT. OH, WELL, I DID IT ONE TIME, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY DO IT AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST WAITING FOR THE LAST WORD OF WPA OR SOMETHING ELSE, BUT I, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO IT AS A PLACEHOLDER. OKAY. IF YOU WOULD DO THAT, AND THEN ANY RESEARCH MATERIAL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BACK IT UP. SO IF THERE'S ANY MATERIAL THAT ISN'T COMMONLY FOUND.
OKAY. SO THAT. SO YOUR OFFICE DOESN'T HAVE THEM AT THE MOMENT.
IS THAT RIGHT? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. GOOD. ALL RIGHT, SO THEY GAVE ME ANOTHER SET.
SO I'LL. I'LL DUPLICATE THAT AND GET IT TO YOU.
WE'LL ALSO NEED THE BIBLIOGRAPHY FOR IT. WE NEED THE BIBLIOGRAPHY FOR THE RESEARCH MATERIAL.
YEAH. WELL. BIBLIOGRAPHY. WELL, BIBLIOGRAPHY MIGHT APPLY TO THE NEWSPAPER CLIPPING.
YOU KNOW. CITATIONS. CORRECT. BUT THE REST IS WHAT WE FOUND IN THE ARCHIVES OURSELVES.
WE JUST HAVE TO CITE, YOU KNOW, WHAT RECORD GROUP IF THERE IS ONE.
SO WE WE NEED THAT INFORMATION PROVIDED SO THAT WE CAN SUBMIT IT.
WAS MORE THAN JUST THE TEXT THAT WE NEED. ALL RIGHT.
THEN IT WOULD BE READY TO LAUNCH INTO THE BLOODSTREAM OR.
WELL, I'M NOT. I MEAN, I KNOW I MISSED A MEETING BECAUSE I WAS AT A CONFERENCE, BUT WAS THIS BOARD DID THE BOARD APPROVE THE WORDING? DID I DO I? OKAY. WE SAW A PRELIMINARY DRAFT, BUT ALSO A LOT MORE MATERIAL WAS GOING TO BE FORTHCOMING, IS WHAT WE WERE UNDERSTOOD? THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I SHOULD LOOK OVER THE MINUTES.
I THOUGHT WE HAD TENTATIVELY APPROVED IT. WE APPROVED THE ACCEPTING OF DOING A MARKER.
BUT AS FAR AS THE TEXT, WE WERE STILL YOU WERE STILL DOING SOME RESEARCH.
YES. WELL, I TRIED ALSO WHEN I WAS THERE WITH KEVIN AND THEN KEVIN'S BEEN BACK SINCE THEN, BUT SO ALWAYS COME OUT SHORT OF TIME TO TRY TO DIG THROUGH IT.
AND I'M VERY DOUBTFUL THAT WE'LL BE SUCCESSFUL, BUT JUST THOUGHT IT.
ALL RIGHT. SO I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND YEAH, AT THIS POINT, IF YOU CAN'T FIND ANYTHING ON THE WPA, THEN SO YEAH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNTY ISN'T SITTING ON AND IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING ABOUT WHERE THAT MONEY CAME FROM.
BUT SO FAR. BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS JUST GO AHEAD AND PUT FEDERAL FUNDING AND YEAH THAT'S TRUE.
YEAH. THAT'S MOVING FORWARD. IF WE CAN GET AWAY.
CERTAINLY MANY OTHER MARKERS HAVE GOTTEN BY ON A LOT LESS, YOU KNOW, FROM OTHER, YOU KNOW, APPLICANTS I'VE SEEN. SO GOOD. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.
SO THAT CLOSES OUT THE UPDATES ON THE HISTORICAL MARKERS.
ANY NEW BUSINESS? I CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH CEMETERIES.
[New Business]
OKAY. I'VE BEEN GONE FOR MOST OF THE MONTH, SO I'M A LITTLE BIT BEHIND ON MY, MY RESEARCH, BUT I MY GOAL IS STILL TO GET THE CEMETERIES THAT ARE NOT ON THE FLORIDA SITE MASTER FILE TO GET THEM ON THERE.I DID REACH OUT TO MELANIE THARP, WHO IS AT PEORIA.
AND THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR PAPERWORK FOR PEORIA, WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHY IT HADN'T BEEN DONE BEFORE NOW, BUT THEY ARE DOING THAT. AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF VOLUNTEERS THAT HAVE OFFERED TO HELP ME IN DOING SITE VISITS ON THE ONES THAT ARE NOT ON THE MASTER FILE SO WE CAN START FILLING OUT THE PAPERWORK.
SO NOW THAT I AM BACK, I'M TRYING TO GET MY SCHEDULE TOGETHER SO THAT I CAN GO OUT A COUPLE TIMES A WEEK OR SO AND GO DO SOME SITE VISITS, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT QUITE A FEW THAT HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED SO THAT WE CAN GET THEM RECORDED.
OKAY. OTHERWISE, WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO TOWN. THEY'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK AT PLEASANT POINT.
[00:40:01]
SO A LOT A LOT OF WORK BEING DONE THERE. I WAS WONDERING ABOUT YOUR SIGN THAT YOU HAVE THE DIRECTIONAL SIGN, AND BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW WHERE. PLEASANT POINT IS, IT'S REALLY HARD TO SEE FROM THE FROM THE ROAD.YOU KNOW, IT'S IN A CURVE. AND THEY ARE PUTTING A SIGN UP ON THE ARCH.
BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE CEMETERY, THERE'S NOT A DIRECTIONAL SIGN TO TELL YOU.
HERE IT IS. WOULD THIS BE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD DO? OKAY. YES. YEAH. BASICALLY, IF WE WERE TO.
AND THERE WAS A BRIEF TEXT THAT SOMEBODY HAD WROTE OUT.
I BELIEVE ABOUT IT AT ONE TIME THAT I REMEMBER FROM SOME PROBABLY STEVE HAD WRITTEN IT UP WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE BECAUSE I THINK RANDY WAS GOING TO BE WORKING WITH HIM ON IT, BUT YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT BASIC THAT LITTLE TEXT, YOU KNOW, SAYING, YOU KNOW, WORLD WAR TWO FIGHTERS, CIVIL WAR FIGHTERS, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE THAT INFORMATION THEN THAT WOULD GO THERE AT THE CEMETERY ITSELF, AND THEN THESE WOULD GO AT THE ROAD, AT THE ROAD IN EACH DIRECTION, PROBABLY UP A FEW HUNDRED FEET FROM THE ENTRANCE TO THE CEMETERY, TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT AS THEY COME UP TO IT, THAT IT'S COMING UP SO THEY WOULD KNOW TO TURN IN.
YEAH. BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE GOING DOWN 209, YOU'RE JUST BOOP.
THERE IT IS. YOU KNOW? YEAH. IF IT WASN'T FOR THE STONE ARCH, YOU WOULDN'T KNOW ANYTHING, WAS THERE? YEAH. AND YOU CAN EASILY PASS IT BY.
BECAUSE BEFORE WHEN RANDY FIRST MENTIONED MENTIONED IT, I DROVE IT.
AND I DROVE RIGHT PAST IT THREE TIMES BEFORE I SAW IT.
I COULDN'T FIND IT. YEAH. WELL, A YEAR AGO, BEFORE THEY STARTED DOING ALL THE WORK AND STEVE TOLD ME WHERE IT WAS, I DROVE PAST IT BECAUSE IT WAS SO OVERGROWN. AND YOU JUST LIKE, OH, WAIT, THERE IT IS.
TURN AROUND AND GO BACK. YEAH, BECAUSE I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING IT WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.
I WASN'T THINKING IT WAS WHERE IT'S AT, BUT. YEAH.
SO ANYWAY. YEAH, THAT THAT'S THAT WOULD BE WHAT? SO BASICALLY FOR IF TO USE THAT CEMETERY AS A EXAMPLE, WE WOULD PUT THOSE TWO SIGNS UP ON THERE AND THEN WE WOULD PUT THE LITTLE INFORMATIONAL ONE. YEAH.
THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE THE WAY WE WOULD DO.
THAT'S THE WAY. A PROJECT LIKE THAT WOULD WORK.
OKAY. SO GREAT. ALL RIGHT. SO IS THERE ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS? I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE ARCHIVES THAT ARE PRODUCED BY THE CLAY COUNTY HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD AND ITS PREDECESSOR GROUP, THE CLAY COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE ARCHIVES WAS THE PLACE WHERE THOSE RECORDS WERE BEING KEPT.
IS THAT CORRECT? I'M NOT SURE. SO WHAT TIME FRAME ARE YOU TALKING? SO THE ORIGINAL COMMISSION, I DON'T RECALL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHEN IT BECAME THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD OUT OF THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
THE DATE I'M LOOKING AT IS 2009. I THINK IT'S CALLED THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
STILL THERE. AND VISHY GEHRIG SAYS THAT THEY ARE THE DESIGNATED REPOSITORY FOR THOSE HISTORICAL COMMISSION RECORDS. BUT ALL THEY GOT WAS THE FIRST BOX OF MATERIALS.
BUT THE HISTORIC COMMISSION PRODUCED A LOT OF SERIOUS RESEARCH WORK.
THEY DID THE WHO'S WHO OF THE POLITICIANS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I CAME ACROSS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE ARCHIVES. IT'S ENTITLED CLAY COUNTY ARCHIVES BOARD OF EDUCATION.
MINUTES. TRANSCRIPTION. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IN 2009, THE CLAY COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION WAS DOING, AND I HAVE AN UNFINISHED TRANSCRIPT. AND I ASKED VICHY, DID SHE HAVE THE FINISHED TRANSCRIPT?
[00:45:06]
AND SHE SAID, I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS DOCUMENT IN MY LIFE.AND SO SHE TOOK A COPY. AND THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT WHERE WOULD THESE RECORDS HAVE BEEN KEPT? BECAUSE DOING THOSE I MEAN, THOSE ARE HUNDREDS OF PAGES OF MANUSCRIPT WRITING.
IT'S A LOT OF WORK. WHERE WOULD THEY BE? HOW WOULD WE FIND OUT? I DON'T KNOW. I WILL HAVE TO CHECK. WE USED TO HAVE A SECRETARY OF THE BOARD, RIGHT? YES, I YEAH. I WONDER IF THE PREVIOUS ARCHIVIST WHO WAS IN THOSE DAYS IS STILL ALIVE.
I UNDERSTOOD HE WAS LIVING IN THE AREA IN JACKSONVILLE, I THINK.
I THINK HE PASSED AWAY. YEAH, I THINK HE DID TOO.
BUT YEAH, SOMETIMES HE TOOK THINGS HOME, I UNDERSTAND.
YEAH, RIGHT. WELL, THIS IS HEADED CLAY COUNTY ARCHIVES BOARD OF EDUCATION MINUTES.
TRANSCRIPTION. IT'S FROM THE HISTORIC COMMISSION.
I DON'T THINK THAT A FORMER ARCHIVIST WALKED AWAY WITH IT.
I WILL CHECK FURTHER INTO THAT. THANK YOU. I'M PRETTY SURE OUR CURRENT COMPUTER SYSTEM IS NEWER, AND I DON'T RECALL RECORDS GOING BACK THAT FAR.
I HAVE ONE MORE ITEM. YOU HAD ASKED ME ABOUT PLEASANT POINT IF THEY WOULD QUALIFY FOR THE GRANT.
SO I DID A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH INTO THAT. IT APPEARS THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A PERMANENT CARETAKER OR PERMANENT PLAN WHO WOULD BE TAKING THAT ON? OKAY. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE THE COUNTY IS GOING TO BE DOING.
RIGHT. SO IS THERE A 500 1C3 THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN BEING THE PERMANENT? YEAH. MOST OF THESE ONES THAT ARE OLD LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN SOME OF THE OTHER ONES, THEY HAD TRUSTEES EVEN MOUNT OLIVET IS, YOU KNOW, DONE BY CARETAKERS. BUT THEY'RE NOT 500 1CS.
DO THEY HAVE TO BE? I MEAN, I ASSUME THE GRANT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE BY THE COUNTY BECAUSE OF A GOVERNMENT AGENCY OR A 500 1C3 WOULD HAVE TO DO THE GRANT. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
YES, BUT IT IT LOOKS LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE A PERMANENT PLAN OF WHO'S GOING TO.
SO YOU GET FUNDING AND YOU CAN USE THAT FUNDING FOR MAINTENANCE AND UPDATING OF SOME OF THE SITE.
BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE A PLAN FOR PERMANENT CARE.
PERMANENT CARE? NO, I AGREE, AS YOU WOULD EXPECT, YOU KNOW, NOBODY'S GOING TO GIVE YOU MONEY AND THEN HAVE IT, YOU KNOW, BE WASTED. SO DOES THE THE THE PLAN FOR PERMANENT CARE THAT A GROUP OR ASSOCIATION OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED, DOES IT HAVE TO DOES THAT HAVE TO BE A 500 1C3 OR IS IT JUST IF THE COUNTY IF THERE'S AN ASSOCIATION OR A CARETAKER, YOU KNOW, DOCUMENTED FOR THE CEMETERY, THEN THE COUNTY CAN DO THE GRANT APPLICATION.
WE NEED TO LOOK FURTHER INTO WHAT THEY'RE THEY'RE CALLING THE OWNERSHIP OR THE CARETAKER.
WHAT WHAT THE STATE WOULD LOOK FOR. OKAY, I DON'T KNOW.
YOU KNOW, THEY THEY HAVE SPECIFIC WORDING AND WE NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT.
I JUST I DON'T BELIEVE THE COUNTY IS WILLING TO TAKE THAT ON AS SOMETHING AS FAR AS A CARETAKER.
CORRECT. YEAH. NO, I, I AGREE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO LOOK AND SEE IF THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE IS DONE BY, YOU KNOW, A FORMED ASSOCIATION OR WHATEVER IT IS.
RIGHT. OKAY. CAN I ADDRESS THE. SURE. COME ON.
BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A DECISION IN THE NEXT, LIKE, 30 DAYS, WAS MY IMPRESSION.
SO. BUT THAT WAS JUST ONE OPTION. I TRIED TO EXPLORE.
BUT AS A CARETAKER, I DON'T THINK WE NEED A 501 THREE TO DO THAT.
SO AND I GUESS I, WE NEED TO LOOK AT HAVING A PERMANENT CARETAKER, BUT WE WILL NEED A GOVERNMENT AGENCY OR A NONPROFIT TO SUBMIT THE GRANT. CORRECT? YEP. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT WE PROBABLY WOULD NEED? A LIST OF WHAT IS NEEDED TO BE DONE, AND THE ANTICIPATED COST OF THE WORK TO BE DONE?
[00:50:08]
SO I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE. SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.OKAY. AS WE LOOK INTO THIS FURTHER. ALL RIGHT.
OKAY. ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS? ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SEEING. YOU THEN. WE'LL GO ON TO STAFF COMMENTS.
[Staff Comments]
POOR CHRISTINE IS HAVING TO DEAL WITH OUR AGENDA TONIGHT.THAT'S CRAZY. SO I HAVE TWO THINGS. NEXT TUESDAY, THE BOARD OF.
NOT NEXT TUESDAY. I'M SORRY. MAY 13TH, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WILL BE READING THE PROCLAMATION FOR NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH AND AGAIN AT 4 P.M. SHORTLY AFTER 4 P.M.. SO I WANT TO REMIND YOU OF THAT AND SEE IF YOU ALL ARE WILLING TO COME TO THAT.
YOU CAN LET ME KNOW AFTER THE MEETING. JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW. REMINDER.
AND THEN ALSO FPN IS DOING AN EVENT. I MENTIONED IT LAST MONTH MAY 15TH AT CAMP GENOA PARK.
IT'S ENTITLED FLORIDA'S FIRST PEOPLE. IT'S 5 P.M.
AT CAMP CHOW. AND FPN IS THE. YOU MAY HAVE TO REMIND ME, CATHY.
IT'S THE FLORIDA PUBLIC ARCHEOLOGY NETWORK. NETWORK? OKAY. FLORIDA PUBLIC ARCHEOLOGY NETWORK. OKAY.
WELL, ANYWAY, THEY WILL BE DOING A PRESENTATION OUT THERE AT 5 P.M.
ON THE 15TH IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
SO YOU SAY THAT STARTS AT FIVE? 5 P.M. AT CAMP GENOA.
OKAY. WE GO IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AT THE FORK THIS TIME.
AND THAT'S 15, 17 BALL ROAD, GREEN COVE SPRINGS.
IF ANYBODY'S WATCHING AND DOESN'T KNOW WHERE CAMP GENOA IS.
OKAY. THAT'S IT FOR THE STAFF. COMMENTS. BOARD COMMENTS.
[Board Member's Comments]
WE'LL START DOWN HERE WITH KATHY AND WORK OUR WAY AROUND.YEP. I'M GOOD. ANYTHING? I GUESS I COULD JUST WARN PEOPLE THAT AT SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE YOU'LL HAVE OTHER PROBLEMS ON THEIR HANDS BECAUSE, WAS A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT OF THE NORTH SIDE OF WELL, THE NORTH PRONG OF BLACK CREEK WAS PLOWED UNDER FOR NEW, YOU KNOW, HOME DEVELOPMENT.
BUT THEY DID AGREE TO SPARE CERTAIN AREAS THAT USED TO BE PART OF THE FORT HEILMAN DEPOT, PARTICULARLY THE ORDNANCE DEPOT, AND AND SOME ENCAMPMENTS OF DRAGOONS WERE OVER THERE.
AND THEN AS WELL. SAMUEL GARY, FOR WHOM THE PLACE WAS NAMED FOR MANY YEARS, WHO OPERATED THE FERRY ACROSS THE CREEK, ALSO HAD HIS HOME AND IS IN THERE. AND FINALLY THERE WAS A CEMETERY, AND THEY SORT OF AGREED TO LEAVE THOSE AREAS ALONE WITH THE IDEA THAT EVENTUALLY THEY COULD BE MEMORIALIZED. LIVES.
SO IF IT DOESN'T. IF IT DOESN'T, ALL ALL OF IT MERIT YOU KNOW, A SEPARATE STATE MARKER.
IT SHOULD CERTAINLY MERIT A COUNTY MARKER AT SUCH TIME AS THEY'RE READY TO LET THE REST OF IT GO BY.
BUT THE COMMITMENT IS THERE. AND THEY DID NOT BUILD ON THOSE PARTICULAR PARCELS.
KEVIN HOOPER, OF COURSE, HAD A LOT TO DO WITH SAVING IT SO FAR.
FROM, FROM, FROM THAT DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'LL BE A COOL MEMORIAL TO ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU THINK OF THE FACT THAT MIDDLEBURG ITSELF, BETWEEN THE FORKS OF THE CREEK WHERE MOST OF THE THE FORT OR OUR DEPOT WAS, HAS BEEN LONG SINCE BUILT OVER. THERE'S NOT A LOT TO TO LOOK AT OTHER THAN HAVE SIGNAGE.
AND WE HAVE PRECIOUS LITTLE OF THAT. SO THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE PEOPLE AWARE OF WHAT AN IMPORTANT THING IT WAS IN SOME STAGE OF THE COUNTY'S DEVELOPMENT. AND WHERE'S THIS AT, JERRY? BEG PARDON? WHERE IS THIS AT? IT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE NORTH PRONG OF BLACK CREEK.
AND SO IT'S A WELL, IT'S. WHAT AM I THINKING? COUNTY ROAD. COUNTY ROAD TWO. COUNTY ROAD 220.
ACROSS FROM MIDDLEBURG HIGH SCHOOL. OKAY. THAT'S WHERE THE.
THAT'S THE HIGH SCHOOL IS. PRETTY CLOSE. PRETTY CLOSE.
[00:55:04]
YEAH. THAT'S THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT THE DREAM FINDERS IS PUTTING IN.YES. IT'S THE. WELL, NEVER MIND. IT'S NOT DISGUSTING, I'M SURE, BUT.
WELL, MELISSA AND I WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR THE MEETING STARTED.
I'VE BEEN OUT THERE AND I'VE WALKED ALL AROUND.
I SEE NO INDICATION, NO REMNANTS OF ANYTHING.
I MEAN, SUPPOSEDLY THEY DID NOT BUILD ON WHERE THE CEMETERY WAS.
YEAH, BUT I CAN'T SEE ANY. I MEAN, THEY THEY HAVEN'T THEY HAVEN'T DONE A THING TO DEVELOP IT.
IT'S JUST MARKED OFF WITH LITTLE STAKES AND THINGS.
AND IT'S ALL OF THIS IS CLOSE TO THE CREEK, YOU KNOW.
SO IF YOU GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE MUCH.
ALTHOUGH THERE WAS SOME STUFF TO THE WHAT WOULD YOU CALL IT, THE WEST OF THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS STILL KIND OF WOODSY. YEAH. I'VE WALKED ALL THROUGH THE WOODS OVER THERE AND I'VE SEEN NO MARKERS, NO, NO, NO, NO STICKS, NO NOTHING THAT WOULD INDICATE WHERE IT WAS.
THAT'S WHY I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN KIND OF GET SOMETHING GOING SO THEY REMEMBER THEIR PROMISE, YOU KNOW? AND DON'T FORGET IT. BUT THERE WAS A THERE WAS A, I GUESS, A STATE CONNECTED ARCHEOLOGIST INVOLVED WHO WAS ALL FOR IT TOO. SO. BUT YES, WE SHOULDN'T NEGLECT IT IF WE CAN HELP IT TO KEEP IT ON THE RADAR SCREEN.
ALRIGHT. TERRY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? YES. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR BETH ABOUT THE UPDATING OF THE FLORIDA MASTER SITE LIST FOR MIDDLEBURG COLORED SCHOOL.
DID THEY RESPOND? YES. AND THEY HAVE NOT. THEY HAVE NOT UPDATED.
I SENT YOU AN EMAIL. DIDN'T GET IT. NO, I DIDN'T SEE IT.
I WROTE YOU AN EMAIL. NOW I WILL CHECK AND MAKE SURE I HIT SEND, WHICH HAPPENS.
THEY HAVE NOT THE LATEST THEY HAVE WAS THAT 2024, 2020 4TH APRIL I THINK 10TH WAS WHEN THE NEW ONE WAS SUBMITTED. THAT DOES HAVE THE THE ASSESSMENT REPORT IN THERE.
THAT WAS ALL PART OF IT. IT'S INCLUDED IN THE MASTER SITE FILE.
SO THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN UPDATED. THAT SHOULD HAVE.
THAT'S THE APRIL 10TH, 2024 WAS WHEN THAT WAS SUBMITTED.
I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID IS THE LATEST BECAUSE WHAT THEY REPLIED WITH HADN'T.
OKAY. SO SO IT SHOULD BE UPDATED. OKAY. THEN I MISUNDERSTOOD YOU.
YOU SENT A WHOLE LIST OF ALL THE CLAY COUNTY PROPERTIES AND THE NUMBERS AND ALL THAT.
WE WERE IN C 100 AND AND ON THAT LIST, IT WAS NOT UPDATED.
OKAY. THAT I UNDERSTAND WHY. GIS THAT IS THE LIST THAT OUR GIS DEPARTMENT HAS THAT THEY GOT SEVERAL MONTHS BEFORE. OR SO IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN UPDATED.
SO I APOLOGIZE FOR CONFUSION ON THAT. OKAY, SO IT IS UPDATED, BUT IT IS UPDATED WITH WONDERFUL.
YES. SUPER. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. I JUST HAVE ONE REQUEST OF YOU. BETH, WOULD YOU PLEASE SEND ME A LIST OF VACANCIES? BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE BOARD'S GOING TO TRY TO HAND ME THE MICROPHONE AGAIN THIS YEAR AT THE PROCLAMATION.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING PREPARED TO SAY.
AND IF YOU WANT TO REFER TO WHICH AREAS. OKAY.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. AND IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.