[00:00:02] ALL RIGHT. WITH IT BEING 530, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START THE MEETING AT THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION BOARD. [Call to Order] [Approval of Minutes] SO THE FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE OLD MINUTES. HAS EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE OLD MINUTES? AND IF SO, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. I SO MOVE. SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SO CARRIED. ALL RIGHT. NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENTS. AND THERE'S NOBODY HERE. WE'LL DISPENSE WITH THIS PUBLIC COMMENT. OLD BUSINESS. [1.  Update on Historic Marker Progress] SINCE JERRY IS NOT HERE. WE'LL SKIP 4 TO 11. AND, MR. CHAIR. DEIDRE MURPHY HAS RESIGNED FROM THE BOARD, SO I WOULD ASSUME SHE WILL BE CONTINUING HER WORK ON THE KEYSTONE HEIGHTS MARKER. WHICH SHE WAS DOING SEPARATELY ANYWAY, FROM THIS BOARD. BUT WE THANK HER FOR HER TIME AND APPRECIATE HER HELPING US, BUT SHE WILL NO LONGER BE ON THE BOARD. OKAY. AND WE ALSO DO HAVE A NEW MEMBER ON OUR BOARD. IF WE WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE HER AND WELCOME HER. KATHY KASS HAS JOINED OUR BOARD. HELLO, KATHY. AND SO SORRY. OH. YOU'RE FINE. OKAY, SO KEYSTONE IS DONE. AND THE MIDDLEBURG CIVIC CENTER. MUSEUM. THIS IS ALSO JERRY, SO SAID. WE'LL SKIP THAT. AND NOW WE COME TO NEW BUSINESS. EXCUSE ME, I HAVE ONE ITEM OF OLD BUSINESS. OKAY. I THINK IT'S OLD BUSINESS, WHICH IS THE COUNTY'S DESIGNATION OF HISTORIC SITES. AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO PICK THAT UP IN READING, OR RATHER, IN WATCHING TWO OF THE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS THAT WE GOT, THE ABCS OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION. I LEARNED SOMETHING THAT REALLY STARTLED ME. NUMBER ONE IS THAT NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES. IT SOUNDS GREAT, AND IT'S A LOT OF PRESTIGE, BUT IT DOESN'T PROTECT YOUR BUILDING. AND SO THE OWNER COULD TAKE IT DOWN, MOVE IT, DO ANYTHING WITH IT. AND SO, ACCORDING TO THE EXPERTS, ONLY THE LOCAL ORDINANCE IS ABLE TO PROVIDE THE PROTECTIONS THAT HISTORIC STRUCTURES PARTICULARLY NEED. SO I BELIEVE NATIONAL DESIGNATED PROPERTIES, YOU PROBABLY JUST WERE NOT MENTIONING THIS, BUT THEY'RE PROTECTED FROM FEDERAL PROJECTS THAT COME THROUGH. THEY HAVE TO DO A NEPA STUDY TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S CONSIDERATION FOR ANY NATIONALLY DESIGNATED PROPERTIES OR ARCHEOLOGICAL SITES. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, LOCAL WOULD BE THE WAY TO PROTECT THINGS, AND THAT IS WHAT YOUR BOARD IS FOR. SHOULD PROPERTIES BE DESIGNATED? THAT'S WHY WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS. THAT'S IF THERE WAS A PROPERTY THAT WAS DESIGNATED AND THEY CHOSE TO DO SOME RENOVATIONS OR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPLY TO THIS BOARD SO THAT YOU COULD REVIEW IT AND ASSURE THAT THE THE IMPROVEMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING AND KEEPING WITH THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THE BUILDING. SO ONE OF THE POINTS THAT THEY MADE WAS THAT ONE OF THE KEY BENEFITS OF GOING THROUGH A LOCAL DESIGNATION PROCESS IS THE ATTENTION AND THE AWARENESS THAT YOU RAISE IN THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES. SO THAT'S REALLY A KEY PART OF APPRECIATING AND UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION. IT'S IS THAT SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE HISTORIC BUILDINGS BECAUSE I'VE ONLY BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE CEMETERIES, BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, LIKE OUR CALL THE OTHER DAY WITH FM, WOULD WOULD THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GET RECORDED? SO IF A PROPERTY OWNER WANTED TO HAVE THEIR PROPERTY DESIGNATED AS HISTORIC, THEY WOULD BRING IT TO THIS BOARD. THIS BOARD WOULD, YOU KNOW, REVIEW IT AND THEN MAKE A PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO HAVE IT FORMALLY DESIGNATED, BUT IT IS AT THE PROPERTY OWNER'S CHOICE. IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN DO THAT FOR THEM. [00:05:01] SO WE CAN'T JUST GO DESIGNATE SOMEONE'S PROPERTY AND THEN HAVE THEM SUBJECT TO POLICIES. IT HAS TO BE VOLUNTARY. NOW IS THAT WITH THE CEMETERIES CEMETERY DESIGNATION OR JUST A HISTORICAL BUILDING? THAT'S WITH BUILDINGS. OKAY. LET'S SEE HERE. LET'S LET'S GO. LET'S TABLE THAT FOR JUST A MINUTE. AND BECAUSE WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT. CEMETERIES. BECAUSE WE NEED TO ASK THEM AND THAT'S NOT. SO WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT IN JUST A MINUTE. OKAY. NOMINATIONS FOR COMMITTEE FOR OFFICERS. [1.  Nominating Committee for Officers] UNDER ARTICLE SEVEN, SECTION AND 12 SEVEN OF THE COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION FORM BOARD IS TO FORM A NOMINATING COMMITTEE NO LATER THAN THE APRIL MEETING, AND PROPOSE A SLATE OF CANDIDATES FOR CHAIRPERSON, VICE CHAIRPERSON, SECRETARY FOR THE MAY MEETING. OFFICERS ARE TO BE SELECTED FROM THE NOMINATIONS RECEIVED FROM THE COMMITTEE AND OR THE FLOOR AT THE JUNE MEETING. SO. I'M GOING TO ASK THE SENIOR BOARD MEMBERS BECAUSE I'VE ONLY BEEN ON THE BOARD A COUPLE OF YEARS, SO I DON'T KNOW, HOW DID WE ACTUALLY FORM A COMMITTEE? SO THIS IS WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS THAT WE'RE TO DO. YOU ONLY HAVE EIGHT MEMBERS NOW. MAYBE IF THERE WAS 11 MEMBERS, THERE MIGHT BE MORE OF A NEED TO TRULY GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. SO I THINK AT THIS POINT YOU COULD TAKE VOLUNTEERS. I WOULD ALSO ASK BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT ONE, SINCE DEIDRE MURPHY HAS RESIGNED FROM THE BOARD, WE NO LONGER HAVE A VICE CHAIR. SO I WOULD ASK IF WE COULD SEE FOR THE, YOU KNOW, THE BALANCE OF THIS YEAR. COULD WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER THAT WOULD STEP UP SO THAT JUST IN CASE YOU WEREN'T HERE, WE WOULD HAVE SOMEONE TO BACK UP? ANY VOLUNTEERS? I JUST HAVE TWO MORE MEETINGS. OH. SORRY. OH, I WAS GOING TO GOING TO MENTION THAT ALSO THAT SOME TERMS ARE COMING UP IN JULY AND YOU CAN ALWAYS APPLY TO CONTINUE. IT'S GOING TO MENTION THAT YOU HAVE MY VOTE. SO BUT NO IF THERE'S, IF IT'S VACANT I'LL GET AS MUCH INFORMATION AND SET THE VICE IF NEEDED. OKAY. OR MELISSA. WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO IT? IS TO FILL IN FOR THE CHAIR. BASICALLY FILL IN IF I'M NOT HERE. MELISSA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT? NOT PARTICULARLY, BUT. IF IT'S FOR. JUST FOR HOW LONG WOULD IT BE? JUST TWO MONTHS TO COVER. YEAH. JULY STARTS THE NEW TERM, SO I'M NOT I'M NOT PLANNING NOT TO BE HERE. YEAH, BUT. BUT, YOU KNOW, EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES DO POP UP SO I CAN COVER FOR YOU. I'M OKAY. SO JUST UNTIL. SO MELISSA WILL BE THE VICE CHAIR TILL THEN. HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. OKAY. I MAKE A MOTION THAT MELISSA, TAKE THE VICE CHAIR FOR THE REMAINING OF THE YEAR TILL OUR NEXT STATED ELECTION IN JUNE. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY NAYS? SO CARRIED. SO NOW YOU NEED NOMINATIONS FOR VOLUNTEERS FOR AN ACT. ACTUALLY, WE DON'T NEED THE SECRETARY POSITION BECAUSE THE CLERK'S OFFICE, CHRISTINE FILLS IN AND TAKES CARE OF ALL THOSE DUTIES. SO WE JUST NEED A CHAIR AND A VICE CHAIR. OKAY. AND YOU MAY REPEAT, IF YOU CARE TO HAVE SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE YOU. AND THEN IF, IF Y'ALL WANT ME TO CONTINUE FOR ANOTHER YEAR, I'M OPEN TO THAT. SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO THAT, I MOVE THAT BILLY GOULD CONTINUES IN THE CHAIR FOR ANOTHER YEAR. SO SO THE TECHNICALLY THAT WOULD BE NEXT MONTH. SO WE JUST TAKE OUR CANDIDATES ON THE SLATE. WHO'S UP FOR THE ROLLS? OKAY. SO IT WOULD BE A MOTION RIGHT NOW TO NOMINATE. [00:10:01] CORRECT. YES. OKAY. OKAY. WELL I SECOND. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SO CARRIED. FOR VICE CHAIR. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT WOULD WISH TO BE NOMINATED FOR VICE CHAIR? I'LL TAKE THE. I'LL TAKE THE VICE. IF IF SOMEONE. IF YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE ME. OKAY. FOR THE VICE CHAIR POSITION. IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE THAT MOTION. COME HERE FOR SEAN. I MOVE THAT SEAN BE NOMINATED FOR VICE CHAIR. OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR? OH, I SECOND. OKAY. NOW, ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? SO CARRIED. OKAY, SO THAT'S OUT OF THE. OUT OF THE WAY. NEXT IS MARKER AND SIGN ALTERNATIVES. [2.  Marker and Sign Alternatives] NOW, AT THE LAST MEETING, I TOLD Y'ALL I WOULD DO A MOCK UP OF WHAT A ALTERNATIVE FOR A STATE MARKER IS. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TWO. WELL, IT'S. I DID IT FOR THE MIDDLEBURG COLORED SCHOOL, SO WE COULD IF Y'ALL LIKE THEM, WE COULD PUT THEM UP AND PUT THEM TO USE IF WE'RE JUST GOING TO TURN THEM TO THE SO THE CAMERA CAN SEE THEM TOO, SO THE PUBLIC CAN SEE. OKAY, WE'LL FLIP THEM BACK AROUND. BUT THESE COSTS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS. THEY'RE ABOUT 75 TO $80 TO MAKE PER SIGN ON IN THIS SIZE. IF WE MAKE THEM SMALLER, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT LESS. BUT MY VISION OR THOUGHT PROCESS IS THIS WOULD BE USED UNTIL WE COULD GET THE BACKLOG OF STATE MARKERS DONE, AND ALSO BE USED FOR OTHER LOCATIONS THAT MAY NOT RISE TO THE LEVEL OF A STATE MARKER, BUT HAS LOCAL SIGNIFICANCE, LIKE SOME OF OUR HISTORICAL CEMETERIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, OR PARKS OR HOUSES OF NOTABLE, YOU KNOW, LOCAL FAMILIES, YOU KNOW, HAVE BIG IMPACTS ON THE COMMUNITY. IT STILL GETS THE STORY OUT THERE, LOOKS NICE AND IS DURABLE, BUT IT'S ALSO FINANCIALLY REALISTIC FOR US TO ACTUALLY GET THEM DONE AND MOVING. ANY COMMENTS? I THINK I LIKE THE IDEA. YEAH. FOR SURE. IT'S A TERRIFIC IDEA, ESPECIALLY IN THE SITUATION WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM. AND I HAVE A DONOR. I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS IS DONE THROUGH THE COUNTY, BUT WHO WILL DONATE $100 TO OUR BUDGET SO THAT THIS WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF? AND WE COULD HAVE A TRIAL. BECAUSE AS YOU ALL SAW MA JACKSON, SHE'S ELDERLY. SHE'S FRAIL. AND THE BIGGEST THING FOR HER IS THE RECOGNITION HERE AT HOME. AND I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU AND PATRICK FOR GOING UP AND PUTTING THOSE POSTER SIGNS UP, BECAUSE IT MADE SUCH A DIFFERENCE. WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. WE WERE ABLE TO TALK AT LENGTH, THE BEST, BETSEY CONDON. SO WE HAD A SITUATION, A CONVERSATION THAT WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED IF WE HADN'T HAD THE ACTUAL SIGN, BECAUSE TO HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, LITTLE PAPER. OH, HERE. READ THIS. IT'S SO INTERESTING. NOBODY'S GOING TO DO THAT. THEY WILL LOOK AT THE SIGN THOUGH. SO I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT. AND TO BILLY'S CREDIT, HE DID PRESENT THIS AS AN OPTION BEFORE THAT. AND I WAS SAYING, NO, NO, NO, I'M JUST REALLY LOOKING FOR TEMPORARY PAPER SIGN, AND I DIDN'T WANT HIM TO GO TO THE TROUBLE, BUT HE HAD OFFERED THIS OPTION. AND IT IS A GREAT, GREAT DESIGN. SO YEAH, I AGREE. I THINK THAT IT'S PROBABLY BETTER THAN WHATEVER I WAS IMAGINING. I THINK IT'S SUFFICIENT FOR THE MOMENT THAT WE'RE IN, AND IF WE HAVE TO DOUBLE BACK AND TAKE ANOTHER LOOK WHEN WE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE MOVEMENT, THEN I THINK, YEAH, I WOULD BE INTO THAT. [00:15:02] BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, FOR THE SAKE OF GETTING THE INFORMATION OUT THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S OUR GOAL. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH MA, WHO IS ELDERLY, I THINK THAT WORKS PERFECTLY. MY QUESTION IS I KNOW THE OLD ONES ARE THE ONES WE DO FROM THE STATE ARE MOUNTED ON THOSE LIKE DIFFERENT POST. I THINK THAT'S SIMILAR TO THE SIGN. WHAT ARE THESE ON? THESE WOULD BE MOUNTED ON STANDARD COUNTY SQUARE RAIL POST THAT WE HAVE, BUT THEY WOULD BE MOUNTED AT THE HEIGHT OF A STATE MARKER, WHICH IS ABOUT FOUR FOOT OFF THE GROUND. SO IT'S EASILY, HE'S EASILY SEEN. I MEAN, I WOULD TRY TO KEEP IT AS CLOSE TO THE SAME. I KEPT I TRIED TO KEEP IT SIMILAR DESIGN AND EVERYTHING TO THE STATE MARKER, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, THE SIZE OF THE TEXT AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND I ALSO WAS GOING TO MOUNT IT, LIKE I SAID, AT THE SAME HEIGHT THEY MOUNT THEIRS. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE SUBSTANTIAL THAN THAT? IS THERE OPTIONS? WELL, IT WOULD BE TO WE WOULD MOUNT THEM BASICALLY TWO POSTS AND THEN SANDWICH THE POST BETWEEN THE TWO SIGNS. SO IT WILL BE STURDY. IT IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE. OKAY. I'M JUST NOTICING THERE'S DIFFERENT SPACING ON THE TEXT. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY IF THAT'S BECAUSE THAT WAS BECAUSE OF THE WORD COUNT THE PER SIDE. I IT TO MAKE IT FEEL TO FILL UP THE SAME SPACE. SOME OF THE SPACING BETWEEN THE WORDS WERE JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. IT ALMOST SEEMS EASIER TO READ. THE CLOSER IT IS. BUT THAT'S JUST ME. AND I CAN TURN THESE AROUND SO YOU CAN LOOK AND SEE. IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO THE EMBLEM AS MORE OF A WATERMARK BECAUSE IT'S HARDER TO READ? YES. WELL, LIKE I SAID, THIS WAS MY FIRST ATTEMPT AT THIS. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS MENTIONED TO ME IS WE CAN FADE THE LOGO OUT A LITTLE MORE. BUT BECAUSE THE WAY OUR SIGNAGE. YOU LIKE THE WAY THAT ONE READS BETTER ON THE RIGHT? THE ONE ON THE RIGHT SEEMS A LITTLE TIGHTER. EASIER TO READ. I THINK SO TOO. I AGREE TOO, I LIKE THAT ONE. THE LINES ON THE SIGN PATTERN KIND OF MESSING UP MY EYES. HEY, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, HAS ANYONE EVER TRIED TO HOLD, LIKE, A HISTORIC GATHERING FOR GREEN COVE? YOU KNOW, LIKE, GET TOGETHER, LIKE THE HISTORIC COMMUNITY? BECAUSE, I MEAN, I'VE GROWN UP, I'VE HAD FRIENDS THAT LIVE IN HISTORIC HOMES AND EVERYTHING. SO I KNOW THEY'RE AROUND HERE. THERE IS A GROUP. I FORGET THE NAME OF IT, BUT IT'S A ORGANIZATION OF ALL THE HISTORICAL ORGANIZATIONS, PEOPLE FROM THEM, PEOPLE FROM THE BOARD. AND THEY MEET AT DIFFERENT PLACES. SO SOMETIMES THEY MEET OVER IN THE ARCHIVES. OKAY. YEAH. BECAUSE, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE COOL TO, YOU KNOW, GET PEOPLE TOGETHER AND THEN ALSO TO WITH FUNDING, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WOULD BE WILLING TO DONATE TOO, I'M SURE. WELL, WE HAVE THE CLAY COUNTY HISTORICAL SOCIETY. YEAH. YOU MEET THE FOURTH MONDAY OF THE MONTH AT THE OLD COURTHOUSE. OKAY. I'M NOT SURE. I'M NOT SURE IF I WAS AWARE OF THAT. I WASN'T, BUT ARE YOU ASKING, IS THERE SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? TO TRY TO GET MORE AWARENESS? YEAH. BASICALLY. MAYBE YOU MIGHT WANT TO ATTEND ONE OF THEIR MEETINGS AND SEE, I, I'VE BEEN TO ONE. I THINK THAT'S JOHN BOWLES IS ON THAT, RIGHT? YES. WHEN DID YOU SAY IT WAS AGAIN? THE FOURTH MONDAY OF THE MONTH. OKAY. AND THE GROUP THAT MAUREEN WAS TALKING ABOUT IS, I THINK IT'S CALLED THE HISTORIC ROUNDTABLE. THE HISTORIC ROUNDTABLE. THAT'S IT. AND IT'S A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT GET TOGETHER AND AND SHARE IDEAS. SO. AND HOW OFTEN DO THEY MEET? TWICE A YEAR, I THINK, DON'T THEY. PARDON ME. ABOUT TWICE A YEAR DON'T THEY. OH NO I THINK THEY MEET MORE LIKE EVERY SIX WEEKS OR SOMETHING AND THEY MOVE IT AROUND. SO THE LAST TIME THEY MET IN KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. OKAY, COOL. YEAH. YEAH. THEY'RE AN ACTIVE AND GROWING GROUP, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO START A YOUTH GROUP, TOO. I'LL TRY AND FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION WHEN THEY'RE MEETING AND AND SEE IF I CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU. IF YOU WANT TO ATTEND THE OKAY. FOR SURE. I WOULD THINK THEY'D BE OPEN TO HAVING MORE MEMBERS. [00:20:01] OH, IT WASN'T JUST ONE REPRESENTATIVE. ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK ALSO IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THIS OUTREACH. WHETHER IT'S IN GROUPS OR ONLINE OR, OR WHATEVER. BUT YES. GETTING THE WORD OUT MORE. OKAY. OKAY. SO ARE WE GOOD WITH THE BASIC DESIGN AND ARE WE GOOD WITH THE FOR US TO PUT THIS THESE TWO SIGNS UP OUT THERE. THE SCHOOL? OR WOULD Y'ALL WANT TO ME TO TRY TO REDO THEM AND PUT THEM OUT THERE? SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT READABILITY STATISTICS WHEN YOU HAVE A LONG BLOCK OF TEXT, IT'S USUALLY EASIER ON THE EYE TO READ IF IT'S LEFT JUSTIFIED RATHER THAN CENTERED. SO THAT MIGHT OPEN UP SOME SPACING. IF IF EACH LINE DIDN'T HAVE TO BE CENTERED CENTERED, IT MIGHT LOOK MORE LIKE THAT ONE. OKAY. I MEAN, YOU COULD PLAY WITH IT AND JUST PRINT A FEW THINGS OUT. THAT'S A GREAT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST WHATEVER YOU FOUND MOST APPEALING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, TIGHTENING UP THE BACKGROUND JUST SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE MORE LEGIBLE. OTHER THAN THAT, I MEAN, THE TEXT LOOKS GOOD ON THE ONE ON THE RIGHT, AND I DON'T THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE CRITICS. I MEAN, THIS ONE IS ALREADY MADE. IT'S JUST IN THAT BLUE IS WHERE IT GETS LOST. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AND THEN I DON'T KNOW FOR ME AT THE TOP A LITTLE BIT AND THEN ON THE SIDE. SO I THINK IF YOU LIGHTEN THAT UP, IT'D BE MORE READABLE. OKAY. FOR SURE. I AND ALSO I WOULD IF THERE IS ANY OPTION TO MOUNT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE SUFFICIENTLY. I THINK IF WE HAVE TO STAY THERE FOR A LITTLE LONGER, IT MIGHT LOOK, LOOK, HAVE A LITTLE BIT NICER FINISH ON IT. THAT'S ALL. I MEAN THEY'RE STANDARD. YOU THINK OF LIKE A STREET SIGN AND WHAT THOSE ARE MOUNTED ON. IF YOU THINK ABOUT LIKE A STOP SIGN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT'S JUST KIND OF LIKE CASUAL. YOU SEE IT, IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANY SORT OF SIGNIFICANCE. WHEREAS LIKE WHEN WE MOUNT OUR NICE, YOU KNOW, ENGRAVED SIGNS, IT'S DIFFERENT AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY NOTICEABLE, BUT IT ALSO IS DIFFERENT. AND I THINK THAT IF THERE IS AN OPTION, MAYBE LOOKING AT SOMETHING WHERE IT'S LIKE, THAT'S THE SAME THING, IF IT'S A ROUNDED POLE, AS OPPOSED TO MAYBE LIKE THE STRUT LOOKING, YOU KNOW, OR WHATEVER IT IS, IT MIGHT CHANGE IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT'S ONLY MY COMMENT. THE SIGN THAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HISTORICAL RESOURCES HAS THAT SAME RAIL THING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? IT JUST MADE THAT SIGN AS WELL. OKAY. YEAH. THAT SIGN IS GREAT. OKAY. YEAH. THE BIGGEST THING IS THAT IT'D BE STURDY. BE REALLY HARD TO TAKE IT DOWN. OKAY. WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TOO I THINK IS STURDY. YEAH. I KNOW IT'S STURDY. YEAH. WHO. WHO MOUNTS THEM? YOU DO? I HAVE WELL, I HAVE GUYS IN THE SIGN SHOP THAT DO THE INSTALL. YEAH. SO. OKAY. SO DO WE WANT TO START USING THESE AS TEMPORARY AND PLACEHOLDERS UNTIL WE GET THE. STATE MARKERS, OR DO WE WANT TO TRY THIS ONE OUT FOR SIX MONTHS AND SEE HOW IT DOES AND THEN MOVE ON? HOW DO Y'ALL HOW WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO PROCEED? AND DO WE HAVE ANY UPDATE ON THE STATE BOARD? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT. ANY FURTHER INFORMATION? ANY WAY WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT IT, IT WOULD BE EXTENDED TIME FOR THAT. I DID START LOOKING INTO OTHER MARKERS, AND I DON'T HAVE FULL NUMBERS COMING BACK, BUT THE FIRST ONE THAT I DID GET BACK WAS 57.94, INCLUDING SHIPPING, BUT NOT INCLUDING THE POST. SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT. AND THAT'S BASED ON A 30 BY 42, WHICH IS THE SAME SIZE AS THE HISTORIC MARKER THAT THE STATE PUTS OUT. SO I WAS TRYING TO BE COMPARABLE. AND, AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHAT MORE I HEAR IF. IT. BUT OKAY, WE HAVE ANOTHER PLAN AND NEXT MONTH I THINK I WILL PUT ON THE AGENDA THAT WE'LL LOOK AT OUR BUDGET AND FOCUS AREAS AND WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO DO NEXT YEAR. AND SO MAYBE YOU CAN GIVE SOME THOUGHT BASED ON THE COST OF THESE, HOW MANY YOU MIGHT WANT TO PLAN TO DO NEXT YEAR AND THEN START TO IDENTIFY WHICH ONES AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO IF YOU WANT TO BE THINKING THAT WAY, OKAY. ALSO IS IT NEXT MONTH THAT NATIONAL HISTORIC PROCLAMATION THING THAT Y'ALL WANT US TO COME UP HERE TO [00:25:03] THE BOARD WITH? YOU'RE STEALING MY THUNDER. WELL, I'VE BEEN DRAGGED TO IT THE LAST TWO YEARS, SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND DRAG YOU AGAIN. SO IT'S MAY 13TH. AND THIS YEAR'S THEME ACTUALLY IS BANKS. AND AS THEY SAID, THIS MAKES SENSE. THIS IS THE NATIONAL HISTORIC MONTH THEME IS BANKS. AND WITH THAT, I ASKED VICKY GEHRIG IF THERE WAS ANY INTERESTING HISTORY ABOUT A BANK HERE IN FLORIDA IN, YOU KNOW, CLAY COUNTY. AND SO SHE SENT ME AN ARTICLE, WHICH I WILL, I WILL SEND OUT TO YOU. THERE THERE IS A BANK OF NOTORIETY HERE, SO I'LL SEND THAT OUT TO YOU. WHAT'S IT CALLED? IT'S NATIONAL. HISTORIC WHAT? NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH. OKAY. AND THE BOARD USUALLY DOES A PROCLAMATION, AND THEY ASK IF YOU'D LIKE TO ATTEND AND COME AND STAND UP BEFORE THE BOARD. AND YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING IF YOU DON'T WANT TO, BUT JUST BE THERE AND BE, YOU KNOW, SMILE, SMILE AND SMILE. YEP. BE PART OF OUR BOARD AND HOW YOU ARE WORKING HARD FOR THIS COUNTY. OKAY. BE RECOGNIZED. SO IF WE PUT THESE UP BY THE THE SCHOOL ARE WE GOING TO PUBLICIZE THAT ON CLAY COUNTY TOURISM SO PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT? WE CAN. SO THE INITIAL PLAN WAS TO HAVE LIKE STREET SIGNS AND PUT EXPLORE CLAY LOGO WITH IT. WE'LL HAVE TO TOUCH BASE WITH TOURISM TO SEE WHERE THEY ARE WITH THEIR EXPLORE CLAY. IF WE NEED TO GET MATERIALS TO THEM SO THAT THEY CAN BUILD THEIR WEBSITE AS WELL. OKAY. BUT WE'LL LET THEM KNOW. YES. THANK YOU. THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION. I WILL SAY THAT I'M OKAY WITH CARRYING FORWARD. I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT. WHETHER OR NOT IT'S SIX MONTHS OR OKAY FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. BUT YOU ALSO NOTICED THAT Y'ALL WILL HAVE A PIECE OF PAPER LIKE THIS. AND THIS GOES BACK TO THE TOURISM BOARD. WE I, WE, ME AND BETH, HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH KIMBERLY MORGAN, WHO'S NOT WITH US ANYMORE, BUT SHE WAS THE DIRECTOR OF TOURISM. ON TRYING TO PUT THESE TYPE SIGNS THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU OUT ON THE ROADWAYS TO LEAD TO THE PLACES WHERE WE WOULD PUT THOSE SIGNS. THAT WAS OUR GOAL. AND HERE'S A COUPLE HERE'S A COUPLE DESIGNS THAT I TOOK. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S TO GRANT FOREMAN HISTORICAL SITE. YOU HAD BROUGHT THAT UP A WHILE BACK, YOU KNOW, THAT WE NEEDED SIGNAGE FOR IT, AND I TOLD YOU WE WERE WORKING ON IT. YEAH. SO THAT IT THIS. YOU KNOW, IF Y'ALL ARE OKAY WITH THIS TYPE DESIGN, THEN WE WILL START WORKING WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO SEE ABOUT GETTING THESE PUT OUT TO SOME OF OUR LOCATIONS. WE'LL START WITH THE ONES THAT WE KNOW WHERE WE HAVE MARKERS AND STUFF FIRST, AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEWER STUFF. AND WHAT IS THE COST OF WHAT, AGAIN? WHAT ARE THE COSTS ON ALL OF THESE? WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WILL HAVE TO TALK. WE WOULD HAVE TO TALK WITH CHERISE ABOUT, BECAUSE I WOULD THINK THESE WOULD BE COVERED UNDER OUR REGULAR STREET SIGNS, BECAUSE THESE ARE GUIDING PLACES, GUIDING TO PLACES AS WHERE THESE ARE MORE COMMISSIONED THINGS. YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE IF WE BUILD A PARK SOMEWHERE, THE PARK HAS TO BUY THEIR SIGNS FOR THEIR AT THEIR ENTRANCE. BUT WE WOULD PUT UP SIGNS DIRECTING THE PUBLIC TO THE NEW PARK, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. IT SO. BUT I WOULD WANT CLARIFICATION FROM CHERISE IF THAT WAS WHAT HOW THEY SHE WANTED TO PROCEED SINCE SHE'S THE BOSS. THE THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO. LET'S SEE. WE WILL. AND THAT LOOKS LIKE ALL THE NEW BUSINESS. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS? OKAY. BETH, DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR MEETING? [00:30:01] YES. YESTERDAY. I CAN LET YOU TALK ABOUT IT. WE BOTH ATTENDED A CLG TRAINING YESTERDAY, AND I'D LIKE YOU TO TALK, BECAUSE YOU'RE. YOU ARE A SCOUT. I AM A SCOUT. SO PLEASE, YOU'RE MUCH MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE. OKAY, SO WE ATTENDED A WEB CALL FROM FPN ABOUT THEIR HERITAGE MONITORING SCOUT PROGRAM, WHICH ENGAGES THE COMMUNITY IN MONITORING A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS. YOU KNOW, HISTORICAL BUILDINGS, SITES AND AND CEMETERIES. I HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THEIR TRAINING. I AM A HERITAGE MONITORING SCOUT AND SO I, I GO OUT AND VISIT CEMETERIES AND IT HELPS US RECORD THEM. AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT ON THE FLORIDA MASTER SITE FILE, WE, WE GO AHEAD AND SUBMIT INFORMATION TO GET THEM RECORDED ON THERE, BUT ONES THAT ARE ON THERE. THE SCOUTS GO OUT THERE AND VISIT IT AND FILL OUT A FORM ABOUT WHAT THE CONDITION OF THESE SITES ARE AND TAKE PHOTOS AND STUFF SO IT HELPS THEM MONITOR THESE PLACES. THEY WERE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT CEMETERIES, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT A VARIETY OF PLACES, BUT THEY TALKED ABOUT THESE SITES. LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, IF WE HAVE A HURRICANE AND THEN WE GO OUT AND THE SCOUTS GO OUT THERE AND VISIT THE SITE TO DETERMINE IF THERE'S FLOODING OR IF THERE'S TREES DOWN, OR IF SO, THEY CAN KEEP TRACK OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE. IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. IT'S FREE TO DO IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN IN DOING IT. IT TAKES ABOUT FIVE HOURS TO GO THROUGH THE THE WEB TRAINING. BUT THEN YOU'RE A SCOUT AND YOU CAN GO OUT AND AND RUN AROUND AND AND VISIT SITES. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I DO. BUT I DO IT MOSTLY FOR, FOR CEMETERIES. BUT IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM AND IT'S FREE. IT JUST HELPS THE COMMUNITY GET MORE INVOLVED. WAS THAT WHAT THE THE WAS IT REACHING OUT FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN, OR WAS IT WHAT WAS THE TRAINING? ACTUALLY, IT WAS MORE ABOUT AWARENESS. THEY THEY SAID THAT YOU CAN EITHER DO IT AS AN INDIVIDUAL, BUT THEY ALSO SAID THAT WE COULD DO IT AS AN ORGANIZATION. RIGHT. YOU CAN GET AN ACCOUNT. AND, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO IT, BUT IT'S, IT WAS JUST MORE AWARENESS ABOUT WHAT FPN DOES AND WHAT THEIR PROGRAM IS WITH THE HERITAGE MONITORING SCOUT PROGRAM. YOU KNOW, I, I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT IT BECAUSE I REALLY ENJOY DOING IT. AND THEY SHARED THE SLIDES WITH US. SO I CAN SEND THAT POWERPOINT OUT TO YOU. SO YOU'LL HAVE ALL THE SLIDES. AND YEAH, I'M ASSUMING THAT YEAH. YOU SAID IT'S FULL SCALE HISTORICAL. IT'S NOT JUST CEMETERIES OR THIS. IT'S BUILDINGS. IT'S EVERYTHING INVOLVED. CORRECT? YES. OKAY. BETH PROVIDED US WITH THE FLORIDA STATUTE. DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT, BETH? THIS IS THE STATUTE THAT YOU HAD BROUGHT UP LAST MEETING. IT ENABLES FOR AN ABANDONED CEMETERY. IT ALLOWS FOR A COUNTY TO GO IN AND DO SOME, YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE OF IT, BUT IT DOESN'T OBLIGATE THE COUNTY TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OR CONTINUED MAINTENANCE. IT CAN BE A ONE TIME THING. SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU. SINCE YOU HAD BROUGHT THAT UP AND JUST FOR OUR AWARENESS AND ALSO WITH THIS I KNOW KATHY, THROUGH YOUR WORK PREVIOUSLY, YOU IDENTIFIED ROUGHLY 20 SOMETHING MORE CEMETERIES THAN WHAT THE COUNTY HAS RECORDED. YEAH, I HAVE, I THINK 78 OR 79 ON MY LIST. AND I THINK WE HAVE LIKE 50 SOMETHING. YES. YEAH. SO WOULD YOU MIND YOU CAN GET BETH CAN GET YOU THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR OUR GIS PEOPLE TO MAP PEOPLE. OKAY. AND SO THAT WAY YOU CAN GIVE THEM THE INFORMATION SO WE CAN ADD THAT TO OUR COUNTY DATABASE, BECAUSE THERE IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO LAND WISE. AND I'LL LET BETH DESCRIBE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT ZONING DESIGNATION SINCE SHE KNOWS ALL ABOUT ZONING. THAT'S THE ONE THING I DO KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT. SO RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE ZONED WHATEVER THEY'RE LOCATED IN. [00:35:03] IT COULD BE RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, WHATEVER. WE DO HAVE A DESIGNATION THAT IS FOR CEMETERIES. AND SO IT WOULD BRING AWARENESS TO THE FACT THAT THAT IS A PROPERTY WITH CEMETERY. WE'VE HAD A GENTLEMAN THAT WANTED TO BE BURIED ON HIS OWN HOME SITE, WHICH HE CAN DO. BUT HE HAS TO GO THROUGH THE FORMAL INTERNMENT INTERMENT PROCESS. AND FOR HIM, WE SUGGESTED THAT HE DESIGNATE THAT PORTION OF HIS PROPERTY WHERE HE WANTS TO HAVE THE CEMETERY SO THAT IT IS WELL KNOWN AND PROTECTED FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. SO IF WE CAN IDENTIFY ALL THE ONES THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF WE'LL LOOK AT THE ZONING AND REACH OUT TO IF THERE IS AN OWNER. WE'LL REACH OUT TO THEM. IF NOT, WE CAN DO AN ADMINISTRATIVE REZONING. THE BOARD CAN. BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS CAN TO DESIGNATE THEM SO THAT WE'RE AWARE. SO MY GOAL IS, BECAUSE I'VE COMPILED THIS LIST, IS TO GO OUT TO THE ONES THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY ON THE STATE OF FLORIDA MASTER SITE FILE AND GO OUT AND DO A SITE VISIT SO THAT I CAN GATHER INFORMATION AND THEN SUBMIT IT TO THE STATE SO THAT I CAN GET THEM ON THERE AS WELL AS GO OUT AND DO SITE VISITS FOR ONES THAT ARE ALREADY RECORDED THAT HAVEN'T BEEN VISITED IN A LONG TIME, BUT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO GET THEM ON THE THE STATE OF FLORIDA MASTER SITE FILE. THAT WOULD BE A GREAT THING. AND THEN THE REZONING AND SUCH MAYBE DOWN THE DOWN THE WAY AFTER YOU KIND OF GET THE FIRST THING ESTABLISHED, THEN YOU CAN USE THINGS LIKE ZONING AS A TOOL. IT COULD BE CONCURRENTLY. OKAY. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN ORDER. SO IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE IF YOU GO TO THE CLAY COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER AND YOU JUST SEARCH FOR CEMETERY, THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ONES THAT WILL COME UP. AND SOMETIMES THEY HAVE OWNERS AND SOMETIMES THEY DON'T. THEY HAVE AN ASSOCIATION THAT MAINTAINS THEM. SOMETIMES IT'S A CHURCH. I MEAN, THERE'S A VARIETY OF, OF DIFFERENT THINGS. SO SOME OF THEM ARE NOT OWNED BY ANYBODY. SO THE ZONING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT BEING ON THE MASTER FILE. NO. OKAY. THAT'S A DESIGNATION THAT THE COUNTY WOULD GIVE TO IT. AND SO IF A DEVELOPER WERE TO COME IN AND BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY, IT WOULD BE OBVIOUS THAT THAT PIECE IS ZONED FOR CEMETERY. AND THIS PIECE IS FOR RESIDENTIAL. AND SO IT WOULD HELP PROTECT IT BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME IN THE PAST THAT ARE ON PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT PEOPLE HAVE BOUGHT. AND THERE WERE BURIALS ON THERE AND THERE'S NO HEADSTONES OR ANYTHING LEFT. I MEAN, IT'S THERE'S ONE IN MIDDLEBURG AND IT'S IT'S JUST SAD. YOU KNOW, THE ONE THAT I KNOW OF THAT THEY'RE PROTECTED. I MEAN, THEY'RE THEY WERE DESIGNATED ON THE PROPERTY AND THERE WAS A BUFFER, AND THEY WERE INTENDED TO BE PROTECTED. SO THAT'S ONE THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD CONSIDER ZONING SO THAT IT'S ABSOLUTELY CLEAR. I DO HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH. MY FRIEND STEVE, THAT HAS BEEN ON THE MEETINGS IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK AT PLEASANT POINT, WHICH WAS AN ABANDONED AFRICAN AMERICAN CEMETERY. AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF CLEARING OVER THERE. WELL, IT'S NOT OWNED BY ANYBODY. RIGHT? IT WAS IN THE HANDS OF A TRUSTEE. WHICH HAS NOW PASSED, BUT THEY'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK OUT THERE. SO TRYING TO DO THE CLEARING. HE HE CAN'T SEEM TO GET THE COUNTY TO HELP HIM WITH REMOVAL OF THE TREES AND DEBRIS THAT'S ON THERE. IS THERE A WAY WE CAN ENGAGE SOMEBODY THERE? I MEAN, BECAUSE IT'S NOT OWNED BY ANYBODY. AND IF HE TAKES HIS OWN STUFF AND TAKES IT TO THE DUMP. THEN HE'S CHARGED FOR TAKING TREE BRANCHES AND LIMBS AND AND THINGS DOWN THERE. IS THERE ANYBODY WE CAN ENGAGE WITH? I'M NOT SURE. I COULD CHECK INTO THAT FURTHER. I WILL TELL YOU, AND I THINK I SHARED IT WITH YOU. THERE IS A WINDOW OPENING UP. IT HAS OPENED UP FOR GRANT APPLICATIONS FOR ABANDONED AFRICAN AMERICAN CEMETERIES. AND YOU SHARED WITH ME YOUR RESEARCH THAT THAT ONE SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD QUALIFY. AND SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE WILL PURSUE, IN WHICH CASE THAT WOULD PROVIDE SOME FUNDING WHICH WOULD HELP, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY GO IN THERE AND DO SOME CLEANUP FOR BASICALLY A ONE TIME CLEANUP. OKAY. IF IF THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THE GRANT, I'LL CHECK INTO IT FURTHER AND SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AS FAR AS TOOLS LIKE THAT AND GRANTS THAT OPEN UP THAT ARE PERTINENT TO US, [00:40:02] IS THERE ANY WAY FOR US, LIKE WHERE DO WE GET THAT INFORMATION? THIS WAS AN EMAIL THAT CAME FROM THE STATE. PROBABLY COULD REGISTER WITH THEM TO GET MOST OF THE STATE AGENCIES HAVE NEWSLETTERS. I WOULD THINK THEY COULD SEND YOU LOOK AND SEE IF YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR THAT. SO FOR THAT KIND OF THING, YOU CAN GO TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA HISTORICAL COMMISSION. AND THEY HAVE THINGS ON THERE ABOUT THE GRANTS THAT THEY DO OFFER AND WHAT THE WINDOW IS. MY UNDERSTANDING, THOUGH, WITH THOSE GRANTS IS IT'S NOT FOR RESTORATION, IT'S ONLY FOR MAINTENANCE. THAT'S THE WAY I, I READ IT. SO TO DO A CLEANUP, YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE KIND OF THING. BUT AS FAR AS DOING ANY TYPE OF RESTORATION WORK, THE FUNDING WOULD NOT APPLY. OKAY. WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT FURTHER AND SEE WHAT IT. ALL RIGHT. THEN THERE'S NO PUBLIC HERE. I'M GOING TO SKIP PUBLIC COMMENTS OR OPEN AND CLOSE IT AND THEN GO TO STAFF COMMENTS, I THINK. NO, I'VE GOT A LONG LIST TODAY. [Staff Comments] OKAY. EVEN THOUGH YOU TOOK MY THUNDER EARLIER. SO WITH DEIRDRE LEAVING, WE HAVE THREE VACANCIES. AND IN PARTICULAR, HER DISTRICT WAS DISTRICT FOUR, WHICH IS OVER ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE COUNTY. KIND OF SURROUNDS CAMP BLANDING. IT'S ALL THE WAY FROM OAKLEAF, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. IF SOMEONE'S INTERESTED IN THAT. AND THEN THE OTHER TWO CAN BE FROM BASICALLY ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY EXCEPT FOR LAKE ASBURY, BECAUSE THERE'S LIMITATIONS ON THE NUMBER THAT COME FROM THE SAME DISTRICT. AND WE'RE FULL AS FAR AS LAKE ASBURY. MEMBERS. SO WE'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE NEW MEMBERS JOIN AND THERE IS SOMETHING COMING UP AT CAMP. CHAO FAN IS DOING A PRESENTATION MAY 15TH. I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE EARLY. WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER MEETING IN THE MEANTIME. AT 5 P.M., WHICH IS ON FLORIDA'S FIRST PEOPLE AND AGAIN 5 P.M. AT CAMP CHAO. IS THAT THE ONE THEY CALL CHAO CHATS OR WHATNOT? CAMP. CAMP. SORRY. OKAY. YEAH, BUT I SAW, LIKE, SOMETHING IN THE COFFEE STORE, LIKE A CHOW CHAT. AND I THINK IT WAS, LIKE, ALMOST LIKE A PODCAST SPEAKING TYPE THING. I DON'T KNOW, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THIS IS AN EVENT. THAT FAN IS GOING TO COME OUT AND ACTUALLY MAKE A PRESENTATION. I THINK THAT IS. OH I BELIEVE THE GRANTS TEAM IS ALSO WORKING ON THE MIDDLEBURG LOOKING TO GET FUNDING TOWARDS. YES. THE SECOND STAGE OF THE PRESERVATION GRANT. YES, THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT. SO THAT'S THAT'S ACTUALLY IT NOW. OKAY. AND WE WILL START WITH BOARD COMMENTS I'LL START DOWN HERE AND WORK OUR WAY AROUND. [Board Member's Comments] NOPE I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. DO I HAVE ANY COMMENT? I HAVE A QUESTION. RELATED TO THE MASTER SITE LIST. MIDDLEBURG COLORED SCHOOL IS LISTED HERE AS CL00 100. AND THIS WAS DOWNLOADED THE FOURTH MONTH, SO APRIL 2024, JUST ABOUT ONE YEAR AGO, WHICH IS JUST ABOUT THE SAME TIME THAT THE GROUP OF PEOPLE FINISHED THE CONDITION REPORT AND THE NEW HISTORICAL STRUCTURE FORM WAS SUBMITTED. I HAVE HERE FOUR 1024 IS IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO FIND OUT IF THAT HISTORICAL STRUCTURE FORM HAS BEEN UPDATED YET? I WILL CHECK, BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE A KIND OF A INDICATOR OF ARE THEY MISSING PEOPLE THERE, TOO? AND AS A RESULT, WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM ON THE, THE BOARD THAT APPROVES THE HISTORICAL MARKERS. I WILL FOLLOW UP AND CHECK ON THAT. I KNOW THEY'RE GETTING STAFFED UP, WHICH IS NICE. WE'RE GETTING MORE TRAININGS, REGULAR TRAININGS, WHICH IS GOOD. SO WE'LL DEFINITELY FOLLOW UP ON THAT. GREAT. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. WITH NO OTHER COMMENTS, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.