[Call to Order] [00:01:21] COUNTY ATTORNEY. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? THAT'S YOU ALL. ON THE RIGHTS WE HAVE -- WE HAVE THE PLANNING DIRECTOR. WE ALSO HAVE WITH US TONIGHT WE HAVE SERGEANT --. OKAY. AND DEPUTY --, WE ARE HAPPY YOU ARE HERE. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS , ON MY LEFT , WE HAVE JOE ANZALONE , BILL GARRISON, AND PAUL LEHMAN. PAUL IS OUR -- ANYWAYS IN ON CONTINGENCIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT . ON MY RIGHT IS COMMISSIONER NORTON. WE HAVE MARY BRIDGMAN. AND WE HAVE RALPH [1.  Approval of Minutes] PUCKHABER. I THINK THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF THAT. THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> SO MOVED. >> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE AYE. >> AYE. >> THE MOTION PASSES . ALL RIGHT. THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS AN ADVISORY COMMISSION TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. WE ARE VOLUNTEERS AND WE SERVED FOR EIGHT TWO YEAR TERM. WE HAVE THE OPTION TO REAPPLY AT THE END OF THAT TWO YEAR TERM IF WE DO SO. IF WE CHOOSE TO DO SO. THE BCC HAS THE FINAL SAY. OUR POSITION IS TO TAKE ZONING AND PLANNING AGENDA ITEMS AND REVIEW THEM WITH THE PUBLIC AND THEN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. THE BCC WILL REVIEW THESE ON THE SECOND AND THE THIRD TUESDAY. IS THAT CORRECT? THE SECOND AND FOURTH TUESDAY OF EACH MONTH. >> IF YOU WANT TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY, YOU CAN GO TO TO THE CLAY COUNTY WEBSITE AND CHECK THE DATES FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING THE MEETING FOR. THE PROCESS IS I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT REAL QUICK. THE PROCESS IS IF YOU HAVE -- AND YOU ALREADY KNOW IT. WE WILL FIRST REVIEW EACH AGENDA ITEM. THE STAFF WILL MAKE A PRESENTATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND TO THE GROUP. ONCE THE STAFF HAS MADE THEIR PRESENTATION AND THE COMMISSION HAS HAD A CHANCE TO ASK ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, THE APPLICANT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. WE CAN ASK THEM QUESTIONS. AFTER THAT, THEN WE OPEN IT TO THE PUBLIC. [00:05:01] AT THAT TIME, IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK AT A PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, I NEED ONE OF THESE CARDS. THEY ARE IN THE VESTIBULE THROUGH THOSE DOUBLE DOORS YOU JUST FEEL LIKE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, AND THE INFORMATION WITH THE GENERAL ITEM YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO AND GIVE IT TO MS. BLANCHET. AFTER YOU HAVE SPOKEN, THEN WE WILL GIVE THE APPLICANT A CHANCE TO RESPOND. ANY COMMENTS YOU MAKE ARE TO BE DIRECTED TOWARD THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT YOU TO PLANNING STAFF OR TO THE APPLICANT . THAT CAN BE DONE EITHER AFTER THE MEETING OR YOU CAN CONTACT THEM AT ANOTHER TIME WHEN THEY ARE AVAILABLE. THE OTHER THING IS WE NEED TO , ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TONIGHT, WE NEED TO HAVE YOU SWORN IN. IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK TONIGHT, MS. BLANCHET WILL ISSUE YOU THE OATH . IF YOU'RE NOT SURE WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT THAT WAY WE DO NOT HAVE TO STOP THE PROCEEDINGS IN ORDER TO GIVE YOU THE OATH. YOU CAN CATCH UP LATER WITH FILLING OUT A CARD. >> IF YOU ALL STAND TO MOVE TO THE MIDDLE OF THE ROOM. ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO SPEAK, POSSIBLY TO SPEAK. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND YOU ALL SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE ME THE WHOLE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD. THANK YOU, ALL. >> THANK YOU. THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. AS LONG AS IT IS PERTINENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THAT INVOLVES PLANNING OR ZONING. IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SCHOOL BOARD, YOU NEED TO TALK TO THE SCHOOL BOARD BECAUSE WE CANNOT HELP YOU. I DO NOT HAVE ANY CARDS FOR THAT, BUT I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. I DO NOT SEE ANYBODY RAISING THEIR HANDS OR ANYTHING ELSE. WE WILL CLOSE THE COMMENTS. MOVING ONTO THE [1.  Public Hearing to consider ZON 24-0034. (D. Selig)] AGENDA. THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, THE FIRST IS THE PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ZON 24-0034. THAT IS BEEN DEFERRED BUT I DO HAVE A CARD ON THAT . IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, YOU CAN SPEAK NOW OR YOU CAN SPEAK WHEN IT COMES BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. OKAY. WE WILL SKIP RIGHT ONTO THE NEXT. >> WE NEED A MOTION. >> OH, I THOUGHT IT WAS A DONE DEAL. >> WE NEED YOUR VOTE TO OFFICIALLY CONTINUE THIS TO THE MAY 6 MEETING. >> STAFF HAS SUGGESTED WE DEFER THIS TO A LATER DATE. WE HAVE A MOTION? >> IT IS THE MAY 6 MEETING? OR SOON THEREAFTER? >> ALL RIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE AYE. >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED SAME SIGN. [2.  Public Hearing to consider COMP 25-0001 and ZON 24-0036 (District 4, Comm. Condon) ( J. Bryla)] >> FAIR ENOUGH. >> SAID THAT THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER COMP PLAN 25-0001 AND ZON 24-0036 . AND J BYRA WILL BE OUR PRESENTER. >> GOOD EVENING, MISSIONERS. HAPPY MARDI GRAS. I AM HERE TO PRESENT THE TWO APPLICATIONS FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT STATE ROUND -- STATE ROAD SOUTH OF -- AVENUE. THAT IS 25-0001 AND ZON 24-0036. THIS IS IN DISTRICT 4. THIS IS COMMISSIONER CONDON'S DISTRICT. THIS IS TO CHANGE 7. 8 ACRES BACK TO ALL RESIDENTIAL PARCEL FROM THE SHOPPING CENTER OR BSC. THE PROPERTY DID GO THROUGH A ZONING CHANGE IN 1987. IT CHANGED FROM A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PARCEL TO THE BSC. AND NOW IT WOULD LIKE TO BE CHANGED BACK TO AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL. THERE IS A FUTURE LAND USE OF RURAL RESIDENTIAL AND IS SURROUNDED BY AR AND AR 1 [00:10:13] DISTRICTS. ON THE MAP, THEY ARE GOING TO AR, NOT AR 1. BUT THEY ARE GOING FROM THE COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION IN THE FUTURE LAND USE AND THEN THE ZONING DESIGNATION TO AR. HERE IS THE CHANGE GOING FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL , FROM COMMERCIAL TO RURAL RESIDENTIAL, AND THAT FROM THE BSC TO AR. THE MIDDLE -- MET ON THIS ON FEBRUARY 18TH AND PROVIDED RECOMMENDATION . STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN AND FINDS IT MEETS ALL THE CRITERIA. AND THE APPLICATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE . STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL. I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> ANY QUESTIONS? IS THE APPLICANT HERE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE WITH US? >> PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS . >> I AM -- SANTOS. 2746 -- AVENUE. 82068. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE IT A FUTURE HOME. >> OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> I DO HAVE ONE CARD. I AM NOT SURE, MR. GLEASON? IS THE ITEM -- IS IT THIS ITEM YOU WANT TO TALK ON? NO? OKAY. THEN I WILL BRING IT BACK AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION. BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION. >> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION. WAS THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING TO THE COMP OR TO ZONING OR TO BOTH? >> BOTH. I MEANT TO SAY THAT. WHAT FOR THE AMENDMENT AND -- AN I WILL MOVE THE LAND-USE CHANGE FOR THE STAFF. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN . SEMI MR. CHAIR, I WILL MOVE THE ZONING CHANGE TO AR PER THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. I DO HAVE A QUESTION IF I GET A SECOND. >> OKAY. THAT QUESTION? >> I WAS TRYING TO LOOK REALLY QUICK. HOW MANY ACRES DO THEY NEED FOR THE AR ZONING OUT THERE TO BUILD? >> THEY ONLY NEED ONE ACRE. BUT THEY HAVE SEVEN. THERE IS A GOOD BALANCE THAT IS WETLAND ON THE PROPERTY. THEY SPLIT IT . I WASN'T SURE WHEN YOU GOT THAT FAR OUT IF THE ACREAGE -- IF IT IS ONE ACRE. OKAY. >> OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND BID ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. OKAY, THE MOTION PASSED. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH . >> WHEN WILL THAT WOULD BE HEARD? >> MARCH 25TH. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MR. SANTOS, YOU'RE FREE TO GO UNLESS YOU [3.  Public Hearing to consider COMP 25-0003 and ZON 25-0002.( District 5, Comm. Burke)(J. Bryla)] WANT TO HANG AROUND. >> I WILL COME BACK ON THE 25TH. >> ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM TO CONSIDER COMP 25-003 AND ZON 25-00 TWO. >> SO THIS ONE IS A LITTLE MORE [4.  Public Hearing to consider COMP 24-0020 and ZON 24-0026.( District 5, Comm. Burke)(J. Bryla)] COMPLEX. SO WHAT I HAVE DONE SINCE THESE ARE COMPANION PIECES FOR YOUR AGENDA ITEMS , ITEMS THREE AND FOUR , I HAVE COMBINED THESE . YOU HAVE HEARD SOME OTHERS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THESE. SO I AM TRYING TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS AS CONCISE AS [00:15:06] POSSIBLE. THEY ARE . ACROSS. HOPEFULLY, IN MY PRESENTATION YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT A LITTLE MORE CLEARLY. EXCUSE ME. YES, GOOD EVENING, AGAIN. JEN BYRA PRESENTING AS TWO PAIRS RED ONE LAND-USE AND ONE ZONING CHANGE IN EACH PAIR. THE PLAN 25-0003 , ZONING 25- 0002 , COMP PLAN 24-00020, AND ZONING 24-0026. THEY ARE REPRESENTED BY MR. HARWOOD AND MR. ROYAL. THEY ARE IN COMMISSIONER BURKE'S DISTRICT. IN THE TOTAL TONIGHT IS 9. 96 ACRES. SO THERE IS ONE APPLICATION SET THAT IS 8. 96. THE OTHER ONE IS ONE ACRE. THIS SHOWS ALL OF THE -- EXCUSE ME. ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS GROUP TOGETHER. THEY WILL ALL GO TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ON MARCH 25TH. YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE A DETERMINATION ON THREE OF THESE. THESE ARE THE TWO REMAINING. SO HOWARD BO NORTON 0020 , THIS IS AN 8. 96 . ESSENTIALLY A NINE ACRE PARCEL WITH THE -- LYING TO THE WEST AND COUNTY ROAD 209 SOUTH, ALSO TO THE WEST. INDUSTRIAL LANDS TO THE NORTH AND THE FUTURE BELTLINE TO THE NORTH. THE SECOND SET OF APPLICATIONS IS COMP 24 - 003 AND ZON 24-0003 ON THE LEFT. >> AGAIN, COUNTY ROAD 209 TO THE SOUTH. IT CURRENTLY HOLDS A MOBILE HOME ON THAT PROPERTY. THIS WOULD BE THE CHANGE IN LAND USE. NO. THIS IS THE CHANGE IN ZONING. I APOLOGIZE THAT IT IS GOING FROM AGRICULTURE VERBAL PROPERTIES TO IB HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING CATEGORY. SO THIS IB TYPICALLY ALLOWS FOR INTENSE INDUSTRIAL USES , SETBACKS FOR THE LANDS . THAT INCLUDES A 20 FOOT VISUAL BUFFER MORAL -- NO LESS THAN SIX FOOT HIGH AND A 10 FOOT LANDSCAPED AREA. RESIDENTIAL USES ARE ONLY PERMITTED AS CONDITIONAL USES IN THE ZONING DISTRICT. THEY SERVE ONLY THE OWNER OR OPERATOR OF THE PEACE FOR USE. THAT IS AND PREPARATION FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT MAY COME UP ABOUT THE LIFE LOCAL ACT. SO THESE ARE THE NOTICES THAT WERE SENT AND INCLUDED IN THE 350 FOOT BUFFER. AS YOU BROUGHT UP IN THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION, ST. JOHN'S RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT WAS NOTIFIED AND WE RECEIVED NO COMMENT FROM THEM. THE SPRINGS DID HEAR THIS. THE SPRINGS CIC . THEY HEARD IT ON FEBRUARY 12. THE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF ALL FOUR APPLICATIONS. AND AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, STAFF GIVES A CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL. I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE IN THE APPLICANT IS HERE. >> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> I JUST HAVE ONE. WHAT IS THE PROXIMITY? WHAT IS THE CLOSEST RESIDENTS TO THIS PARCEL? IF WE ARE GOING FROM, IF WE ARE GOING TO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, I AM CONCERNED. I'M INTERESTED IN HOW CLOSE THE CLOSEST RESIDENTS IS. >> YES, SIR . IT WOULD BE TO THE SOUTHEAST, THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE. >> OKAY. THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE. THANK YOU, MA'AM. [00:20:02] >> YES. >> ANYONE ELSE? >> >> OKAY. I AM DAN ROYAL. I LIVE AT 3688 CLUSTER COURT. LET THE RECORD REPORT I KNOW MANY OF Y'ALL. I DON'T KNOW WHY I ALWAYS GET NERVOUS ABOUT THIS . I HAVE BEEN HERE NUMEROUS TIMES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ON THE MAP , YOU ARE LOOKING AT, THOSE DO NOT REPRESENT -- THIS PROPERTY IS OWNED BY THE STATE TO THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. HAS 11,000 ACRES THAT SURROUND THIS PIECE. THE GREEN PARCEL IS INDUSTRIAL ZONED. I AM HERE TO TELL YOU THIS IS A PERFECT PLACE FOR INDUSTRIAL. IF THE RESIDENTS ON 209 , THEY WILL NEVER BE SLOWED DOWN BY A VEHICLE FROM THIS PARK , THAT MAYBE JUST BEFORE GETTING TO U.S. ROUTE 17. NO CAR, TRUCK, PICKUP OR SEMI WILL EVER GO DOWN COUNTY ROAD 209 SOUTH. THERE IS NO REASON FOR ANY INDUSTRIAL TO EVER GO DOWN THERE UNLESS THEY HAVE A ROOFING CONSTRUCTION COMPANY AND THEY'RE GOING TO REPAIR SOMEBODY'S ROUGHER THERE'S NOTHING DOWN 209, NO SHORTCUT OR NOTHING , FOR COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL. ALL OF THE COMPANY IS GOING TO GO OUT TO A NINE NORTH IN 226, AND NOT DOWN 209 WHATSOEVER. THE ONLY CARS OR TRUCKS GOING TO THIS SITE WILL AFFECT TRAFFIC ON 209 WILL BE RESIDENTS THAT MIGHT BE EMPLOYED BY THE MANY JOBS BEING OFFERED AT THE SITE. BUT NO ONE ELSE DID YOU THINK ABOUT IF YOU HAVE 20,000 ENTITLED LOTS NORTH OF 16 , YOU HAVE 15-18, DEPENDING ON -- ENTITLED RESIDENTIAL LOT SOUTH OF 16. WE HAVE ALREADY PUT INTO PLACE. THAT IS 38,000. THAT IS A BUNCH. 38,000 HOMES. ANOTHER 75,000 PEOPLE . IF YOU LOOK AT IT THAT WAY, THOSE PEOPLE CAN EITHER GET ON THESE ROADS WE ARE BUILDING , 315, 218, HENLEY, WHATEVER. THEY CAN GO BACK TO JACKSONVILLE OR WE CAN CREATE JOBS HERE FOR THAT BUT I NOTICE A HIGH PRIORITY OF YOURS. I KNOW IT IS A HIGH PRIORITY OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE I SPOKE TO MANY OF Y'ALL. CREATING JOBS IN INDUSTRIAL PARKS AS PART OF BUILDING A COMMUNITY THAT IS GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER 35,000 HOMES OR 75,000 RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA. PETERS CREEK AND GOVERNANCE INDUSTRIAL PARK WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT -- OH, NUMBER FIVE. NO NEW HOUSE WILL BE CONSTRUCTED THEY'LL BE IMPACTED BY THIS PROJECT. THERE IS NO LAND FOR HOMES ANYWHERE YOU GO BETWEEN THEIR AND THAT INTERCHANGE OR U.S. 17. PETERS CREEK AND GOVERNANCE INDUSTRIAL PARK WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT BOTH STATE ROAD 16, TWO LANE ROAD, 315 ROAD, TWO LANE ROAD, AND 15 A, TWO LANE ROAD. THEY ARE WELL SITUATED. I'M NOT HERE TO ARGUE THAT THEY ARE NOT WHERE THEY SHOULD BE ACTIVE. WE NEED THEM AND THEY HAVE GOT INDUSTRIAL SITES IN THE MIDDLE OF GOVERNANCE PARK. PRETTY CLOSE TO RESIDENTS THERE. THIS DEVELOPMENT IS OVER THREE MILES FROM WILLIAMS PARK ROAD. A THREE MILE RADIUS FROM PETERS CREEK INDUSTRIAL TAKES IN ALL OF SARATOGA SPRINGS , HALF OF GOVERNANCE PARK, AND FOUR EXISTING SCHOOLS. A THREE MILE RADIUS OF GOVERNOR'S PARK , TAKES IN ALL THE PARK, THE PERIPHERY, AND RESISTING SCHOOLS , AND TWO TO BE DEVELOPED. NOCO, NO TRAFFIC, NO WHATEVER IS GOING TO LEAVE HERE AND ACROSS THE SCHOOL ZONE. NOT IF THEY'RE GOING TO 17, NOT GOING TO CONSTRUCTION SITES. EVEN IF THEY ARE OVER FL TO LAKE ASBURY, THEY'RE GOING TO GO -- INAUDIBLE - LOW VOLUME ]. WE DO A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION. BUT IF THEY ARE GOING TO GET ON THAT BELTWAY , THEY'RE GOING TO GO UP TO LAKE ASBURY, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WIND UP ON 209. SO THIS IS AN IDEAL SITUATION BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY OF THAT [00:25:04] NEW INTERCHANGE THAT OPENS UP. AT BEST, THERE'LL BE A STOP SIGN AT THE INTERSECTION OF 209 AND COUNTY ROAD 226. THERE WILL BE NO THROUGH TRAFFIC RATED BY THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE TRAFFIC FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE ONLY INTERCEPTION MIGHT BE COUNTY ROAD 226 AND JP HALL INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY. THERE IS ALREADY 300 ACRES OF INDUSTRAL ZONED PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THIS SITE. THAT WAS WELL CONCEIVED WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY DONE. IT REMAINS A SOLID PARK OF THE NEW GROWTH UNDERWAY. THE PARK WAS MENTIONED AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING FOR THE PROPERTY. THERE IS 12,000 ACRES OF ACCESSIBLE PARKING THAT SURROUNDS IT. 75 ACRES. WHEN DEALING WITH LIVE LOCAL, -- THIS IS NOT SOME PLAY OR WHATEVER. YOU KNOW IT IS GOING TO BE INDUSTRIAL. WE HAVE NO INTENTION TO PULL THE WOOL OVER ANYONE'S EYES. NOT YOU, THE COMMISSIONERS, OR ANYONE ELSE THAT WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD SPOT FOR INDUSTRIAL PEER -- IS ON THE WAY DOWN THERE. WE HAVE WATER AND SEWER TO THE SITE. THERE WILL BE AN IMPROVEMENT THERE AT THAT AREA. AND THEN THE JOBS THAT LEAVE THEIR WILL LEAVE NORTH OR CONCEIVABLY GO WEST TO 226. OR THEY WILL GO TO TO SIX AND CUT THROUGH THAT BRAND-NEW ROAD WE WILL HAVE AT GOVERNOS PARK ACROSS FROM 17 INTO IT. THEY WILL GO INTO THAT SUBDIVISION. THINK ABOUT WHERE THE OTHER PLACES WE ARE EXCITING INDUSTRIAL NOW, WHAT THAT TRAFFIC PATTERN IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE ON 15 A IN THOSE OTHER PLACES. HOW MANY KIDS, HOW MANY SCHOOL BUSES IS THAT GOING TO IMPACT? THIS WILL NOT IMPACT ANY UNLESS WE HAVE TO GO OVER BECAUSE THE INDUSTRIAL PARKS ARE BUILDING OUT. THAT IS OUR PITCH. LIKE WE SAID, WE THINK THIS IS A GREAT SITE . I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS. >> WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY. >> I AM SORRY I WAS NOT AT THE LAST ONE. I SHOULD HAVE BEEN. -- STAY HOME. I GOT THIS ONE. WE WILL SEE HOW IT TURNS OUT >> I HAVE A COUPLE, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR? DAN, IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. I KNOW YOU HAVE THE BEST OF CLAY COUNTY AT HARTFORD I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. MY OVERRIDING CONCERN DEALS WITH THE NEIGHBORS. IN THE PROXIMITY TO THE RESIDENTS. WE ARE THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE AWAY, WHICH IS A DECENT DISTANCE AWAY. I'M CURIOUS. IS THERE GOING TO BE A NOISE ORDINANCE OVER THIS AREA? WHAT ARE THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS? >> RIGHT THE NOISE ORDINANCE. KITTY CORNER, WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD SIZED INDUSTRIAL. I THINK YOU ALREADY STARTED TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON IN THERE WITH RUSTIC ENTERPRISES. NO, WE HAVE NOT CONSIDERED IT. AGAIN, BECAUSE THINKING ABOUT THE PROXIMITY TO NEIGHBORHOODS IS -- FOR INSTANCE, PETERS CREEK. 500 ACRES. THAT IS A GOOD SIZE PROPERTY. IT WILL BE JAMMED UP AGAINST HOMES. THIS HAS 11,000 ACRE BUFFER AROUND IT. 11,000. THE ONLY THING WE ARE GOING TO DISTURB ARE THE FOXES AND WHATEVER OUT THERE. -- WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO BASED ON USE FOR THAT WAS ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP. YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T YOU DRAW US A PICTURE AND TELL US WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO. INDUSTRIAL BIT IT COULD BE A ONE TIME THING. BUT THE UNIQUE THING, JUST LIKE IN THE CITY OF -- YOU'LL GET ANOTHER BITE OF THE APPLE WITH THE SITE PLAN. GO TO THE SLIGHT PLAN AND YOU GO, OH -- WHATEVER. THAT WOULD BE THE TIME TO DISCUSS THAT. I WOULD THINK BECAUSE CHANCES ARE , YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE, GOSH, I AM LOOKING AT WHAT JOE WIGGINS IS DOING WITH THE INDUSTRIAL PARK. HE HAS -- STRINGS WHICH WILL MAINLY BE DISTRIBUTION AND SMALLER BUSINESSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT COULD'VE ALREADY STARTED ON 209 FOR THE PEOPLE IN THEIR -- I HAVE A FEELING IT IS GOING TO BE SMALL COMPANIES RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION. I HAVE GOT A COUPLE PEOPLE LOOKING FOR 10-20 ACRES AT BOTH OF THOSE ARE DESIGN FIRMS DESIGN CONSTRUCTION FIRMS. WE DO NOT KNOW YET SO IT IS HARD FOR US TO DO THAT AND SAY WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE. WE WILL BE HAPPY, MICHAEL, TOOK HIM BACK, DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS. IF NECESSARY, WE WILL HELP YOU [00:30:06] DRAFT A NOISE ORDINANCE. >> OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS BODY WILL SEE THE SITE PLAN WAS TO HAVE YOUR LAND USE AND ZONING BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT COMES BACK IN FRONT OF AGAIN, BUT I DO NOT THINK IT DOES. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. SO I WOULD JUST SUGGEST IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, DEALING WITH LIVE LOCAL, WHICH YOU MENTIONED, I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, A NOISE ORDINANCE IN TIMES OF OPERATION SO THERE IS NOT NEGATIVE IMPACT FROM THE CITIZENS WHO LIVE WITHIN A QUARTER OR THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE FROM THIS PROPERTY. >> YEAH. >> I KNOW. >> THE SITE INDUSTRIAL, THAT IS , WE ARE AS FAR AWAY -- THIS WILL SIT FARTHER AWAY THAN ANY OTHER INDUSTRIAL AREA PERIOD. >> THANK YOU. EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. >> >> COMMISSIONER, THE NOISE ORDINANCE WOULD BE IN EFFECT FOR THIS PROPERTY. IT IS UNINCORPORATED AND THAT COVERS CLAY COUNTY. >> THANK YOU. >> I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT. YOU STATED THERE WOULD BE NO TRAFFIC ON 209. >> SOUTH. >> SOUTH. RIGHT. I WAS LOOKING. >> GOING A MILE TO GET TO THE INTERCHANGE. BUT THERE ARE NO HOUSES ON THAT ROAD. >> OKAY. >> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. LOOKING DOWNLINE, WHAT YOU ENVISION AS THE USE? WHAT IS COMING IN HERE? WHAT YOU THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE? OR ARE YOU TALKING TO ANYONE NOW WHO HAS IDEAS? >> THE ONE THAT NEEDS 10-20 IS THE FIVE ACRES THAT NEEDS AN ACTUAL -- THAT NEEDS INDUSTRIAL TO PUT THAT IN PLACE. I HAVE 10,000, I MADE A 10-20 ACRE GROUP THAT DOES DESIGN AND BUILD CONSTRUCTION. THEY DO IT IN THE MAIN OFFICE HERE. I HAVE HAD , THE CALLS I'VE HAD LATELY HAVE BEEN THE SMALLER MAGNITUDE. 5-10 ACRES FOR THAT IS WHY I THINK THIS ONE IS NOT GOING TO BE A ONE BIT, YOU KNOW, NOT GOING TO BE A WALMART BECAUSE IT IS NOT PRICED TO BE A WALMART. IT IS NOT BIG ENOUGH BUT I THINK IT WILL BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 3-5, MAYBE 10 ACRE PARCELS. AVOIDING THE WETLANDS AND THE. THERE ALSO WETLANDS ON SITE. THAT IS WHAT WE DO NOT HAVE. THERE IS NOT , THERE IS NOT ONE ACRE OF INDUSTRIAL ZONED PROPERTY AVAILABLE WITHIN A FIVE MILE RADIUS OF YOUR. MEAN, OFFICE SPACE. BECAUSE , YOU KNOW, IT IS HARD TO DEVELOP IT . IT IS HARD TO DO THAT WITH ONE ACRE. I HAVE GOT A GREAT SITE ON 16. I WOULD LOVE TO BRING THAT BACK HERE TO YOU ONE OF THESE DAYS BECAUSE A COURSE DEVELOPMENT, I THINK 16 IS GOING TO SOAK IT IN THE MEANTIME, THE PARKS COMING ONLINE -- 25 YEARS ABOUT THE CREEK. IT IS GOING TO BE GREAT. ACCESS THAT IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE HEAVIER TOO. >> I BELIEVE HE WILL BREAK IT UP AND DEVELOP IT INTO 3-5 ACRE PARCELS WHICH IS GREAT. I THINK THAT IS WHAT THIS ONE IS GOING TO BE. I DO NOT THINK IT IS GOING TO BE ONE BIG 75 YEARS. ORDINANCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT I DO NOT SEE THAT. BUT I DO SEE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES THAT I WOULD LIKE TO THINK WE WILL START TO SEE -- THAT ROAD A LITTLE BIT BIGGER. SO THE PROXIMITY TO 17, PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE TO BE ON 17. THAT PROXIMITY IS REALLY GOOD WHICH IS WHY THINK 15 A IS GOING TO ATTRACT PEOPLE. I THINK INDUSTRIAL SITES WE CITED INSIDE THE GOVERNORS PARK ARE ALSO GOING TO VARY ANYWHERE BETWEEN FIVE AND 25 ACRES BUT I THINK THERE ARE THREE, FOUR, OR FIVE OF THOSE IN THE MASTER PLAN. I THINK EACH OF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE JOB GENERATING AND COULD GO COMMERCIAL BUT I THINK THIS COULD GO COMMERCIAL AS WELL BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO THE INTERCHANGE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMERCIAL THAN INDUSTRIAL. WE DO NOT HAVE THOSE SITES. RIGHT NOW, IF YOU PRICE ON U.S. 17, THE SITE AND DOWN: -- SPRINGS, $1 MILLION PER ACRE. [00:35:05] AND THEY GO UP. IT IS $800,000 MORE PLUS IN SOUTH. MAYBE 400. THAT IS A LOT. SO YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE A QUALITY BUSINESS IN THAT, I THINK, TO GET IN THERE. THAT IS NOT LAND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE USE OF IT. I DO GET A LOT -- THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP SOME PROPERTY IF YOU HAVE IT. >> OKAY. I THINK THE QUESTION SHOULD GO TO STAFF OR TO DAN. COULD YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY? HOW THIS ONE ACRE FITS INTO THE OVERALL PUZZLE? HOW MANY ACRES TOTAL? >> A TOTAL OF ABOUT 80. THE ONE ACRE IS -- OKAY. THE ONE ACRE USED TO BE , THAT IS JOHN JUNIOR'S SITE. I THINK THE DISTRICT USED TO , FISH AND GAME USED TO HAVE AN OPERATION AND THAT ONE ACRE. SO THE FAMILY, THE WHOLE FAMILY, THIS IS DIFFERENT PIECES OF IT. THEY OWNED THIS PIECE. THREE DIFFERENT OWNERS. YOU HAVE BILL AND SUSAN OWNED THE BIGGER PIECE . THEY OWNED THE ONE ACRE ACROSS THE WAY. THE INSIDE EIGHT ACRES IS TRAVIS KING. THAT IS CINDY'S SON. IN THE ONE ACRE IS JOHN JUNIOR. VIRGINIA'S BROTHER. SO WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD DO WAS TRY TO CONSOLIDATE ALL OF THEM. NO SENSE IN BEING PIDDLY. THAT IS WHY IT IS THREE. VIRGINIA SAID -- AND JOHN JUNIOR DOES NOT LIVE THERE. NOBODY IS LIVING THERE. WE SQUARED IT UP AS BEST WE CAN BECAUSE THE REST OF IT IS >> THAT WAS SOMETHING I WAS TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND. THIS PIECE IS BEING A SYMBOL. AND IS THAT IT IS GOING BEFORE THE BCC ON THE 25TH. ALL FIVE OF THEM ARE GOING. >> THE TWO YOU ARE DECIDING ON TONIGHT IS THE ONE ON THE LEFT AND GREEN. THOSE TWO PARCELS. >> AND THE YELLOW ONE. >> YEAH, THOSE ARE THE FAMILY. >> I DON'T KNOW. >> HONESTLY, IT IS ONE OF THOSE IT COULD'VE BEEN A POND. IT WAS A PURPOSEFUL POND AT ONE TIME. WE HAD DONE A SURVEY ON IT. SO I SUSPECT IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE CATTLE ACROSS THE WAY. >> SIR. >> ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. >> >> WE SAW THE OTHER ITEMS ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO, IF I WAS NOT MISTAKEN. >> IT WAS IN OCTOBER. >> OH, THAT LONG AGO? DAYS AND MONTHS. ONE THING THAT KEEPS COMING BACK TO MY HEAD IS THERE WAS A QUESTION BY SOMEONE. I CANNOT REMEMBER IF IT WAS ONE OF US OR SOMEONE OUT THERE IN THE AUDIENCE ABOUT IF THIS IS NOT DEVELOPED AS AN INDUSTRIAL PARK, COULD POTENTIALLY GO INTO MULTIUNIT DWELLING WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK TO US? >> THAT IS LIE I SPOKE TO ABOUT THE LIVE LOCAL. I BELIEVE IS A ROYAL SPOKE ABOUT THAT. THE LIVE LOCAL DOES NOT REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THEY CAN GO STRAIGHT TO A CHANGE IN INDUSTRIAL LANDS. IF IT STAYS THE PROCESS, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A CARETAKER TO HAVE A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. >> THE ONLY PRESENT I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER, YEARS AND YEARS AGO, ALL OF THAT LAND WAS ALL COMMERCIAL. WE REZONED THAT AND IT IS ALL RESIDENTIAL NOW. >> YEAH, YOU ARE RIGHT . >> I DO NOT WANT TO SEE SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW , -- >> THEY MADE THAT A LOT EASIER. >> ZONING INDUSTRIAL AND THAT IF YOU MEET THE CRITERIA FOR LESS EXPENSIVE HOUSING, YOU CAN BUILD ANYWHERE. THAT COME UP BEFORE. WE ARE HAPPY TO RESTRICT THAT. >> THAT'S OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE -- OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ] I WANT TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD THAT WE [00:40:08] ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO PURSUE THAT RATHER THAN IT BECOMING SOMETHING -- >> ALL THE OWNERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT. THEY KNOW WHERE WE STAND UP HERE AND SAY THAT BUT THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM. WE KNOW THAT WAS A CONCERN. OH, THAT IS A CONCERN AND -- BUT ANYWAY, YES, WE WILL ADDRESS THAT AND TAKE THAT OFF THE TABLE. >> THANK YOU, MR. ROYAL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> OKAY WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING, I HAVE A COUPLE CARDS HERE. MR. GLEASON? PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. >> BILL GLEASON -- SOUTH. SOMEONE KIND OF STOLE MY THUNDER HERE GOING BACK TO THE OCTOBER MEETING. I KIND OF HAD THE ADJACENT PROPERTY -- THE CONSERVATION AREA. WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT STAY A CONSERVATION AREA. WE WOULD LOVE FOR Y'ALL TO COME OUT AND SEE THE LAND. IT IS A VERY TRANQUIL SPOT . IT HAS BEEN HERE 152 YEARS. AS A RESIDENT MYSELF, YOU DO NOT WANT TO SEE THAT COMING IN, YOU KNOW? AS OF THE CITIZEN OUT THERE, BEING OUT THERE YOUR WHOLE LIFE. YOU DO NOT WANT TO SEE IT COMING IN THE . IT TAKES AWAY FROM THAT. VEHICLES ON THE ROAD. THERE IS VEHICLES ON THE ROAD. IF YOU'RE GOING DOWN TO A NINE SOUTH, YOU WILL COME ACROSS VEHICLES SOMEWHERE ON THE . THE PROPERTY NORTH OF THEIR , THEY JUST HAD A SEMI -- FOR TWO HOURS. SO BEING OUT OF THE ROADS FOR PEOPLE GOING UP AND DOWN. KIDS AND CARS AND TEENAGERS IN THE DRIVE, YOU KNOW? HOPING WE WILL KICK IT BACK LIKE LAST TIME. LIKE I SAID, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU AGAIN TO RIDE OUT THERE AND LOOK AT IT. THE CITIZENS WANT TO KEEP IT AS A CONSERVATION AREA INSTEAD OF ANYTHING ELSE GOING TO IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> SANDRA BULHKE. DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? >> SANDRA BULHKE . OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR AND SPOKE AGAINST THE REZONING AND CHANGES ON THE PARCELS THAT I'M HERE TONIGHT TO DO THE SAME WITH SEVERAL OF THESE PARCELS HAVE ALREADY BEEN -- ACCORDING TO THE REGIONAL MEDICAL, THEY JUMPED AHEAD OF THE PROCESS. >> COULD YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE DOWN? >> SORRY, I THOUGHT I DID BUT I APOLOGIZE FOR SEVERAL OF THESE PARCELS HAVE ALREADY BEEN CLEARED . IN THE LAND OF NO CODE IT IS CLEAR BUT YOU CANNOT DO ANYTHING WITHOUT A PLAN AND THEY DO NOT HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE CURRENTLY OR ANYTHING APPROPRIATE THE CONCERN IS THE PROCESS HAVE ALREADY WOODFORD WITHOUT THAT VERY FIRST STEP BEING DONE. AND WE ARE STILL NOT QUITE IN THE PROCESS YET BECAUSE WE ARE STILL AT THE ZONING PHASE. >> THAT IS ONE OF MY CONCERNS WITH THE CURRENT IMPACT ON THE CONSERVATION LAND AROUND THAT WITH REMOVAL OF TREES AND NATURAL LANDSCAPING -- ON THE PROPERTY VISIBLE FROM THE SOUTH. THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT A PLACE TO SUPPORT THIS . MR. ROYAL STATED THAT THE CITY OF -- TO BRING WATER DOWN TO THAT AREA. THAT WAS NEWS TO ME. -- A WELL AND SEPTIC SYSTEM. I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE INDUSTRIAL WASTEWATER GOING INTO OUR WATER SUPPLY BECAUSE WELL HAVE -- IN THE AREA. THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN QUESTION, MOSTLY I THINK THE CONCERN IS THE ROADWAYS -- IS A DIRT ROAD HE STATED WOULD BE PAVED. IT CONTINUOUSLY GETS WASHED OUT AND IT IS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY USE, AND INDUSTRIAL. COUNTY ROAD 226 IN FEBRUARY WROTE A BIT I CAN FOR THE LAST TIME ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THAT ROAD AND THEY STILL EXIST TODAY. DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD AND PASSING A CONSUMER VEHICLE OR A STANDARD CAR, SUV, YOU HAVE TO STRUGGLE TO KEEP YOUR VEHICLE ON THE ROAD. WHEN YOU PASS A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE FROM COUNTY ROAD 209 ALL THE WAY TO HIGHWAY 17, YOU'RE REALLY STRUGGLING TO KEEP YOUR VEHICLES ON THE ROAD. MR. ROYAL WAS VERY ADAMANT ABOUT THE USE OF THAT ROADWAY FOR TRAFFIC BUT MY CONCERN IS SAFETY BUT I YESTERDAY ADMITTED THAT ROADWAY MYSELF IN THREE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS WITH ROADWAY MEASURES ONLY 18 FEET FROM EDGE OF ASPHALT TO EDGE OF ASPHALT. IS WELL BELOW THE MINIMUM STANDARDS IN THE COUNTY OR A COMMERCIAL OR ROADWAY SUCH AS THIS WITH THE FACT THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE CONTINUALLY ADDING EXISTING INDUSTRIAL ALREADY PLANNED FOR THIS CORNER BECAME THROUGH , THE [00:45:01] PARCELS ON 226, AND INDUSTRIAL WHERE HORSES THEY CAME IN RECENTLY. THAT IS COMING, BUT HAS NOT BEEN THERE YET CAN WE HAVE AN ISSUE NOW WITH THE COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC ON THE ROADWAY. THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THIS POTENTIAL INDUSTRIAL USE COMING PROPOSED TONIGHT. MY CONCERN IS THE SAFETY FOR THAT ROAD. OUR PRIMARY EMERGENCY RESPONSE IS FIRE STATION 24 POTATOES 226 ON A REGULAR BASIS TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY SERVICES ON 209 FELT THAT IF WE CONTINUE TO ADD ADDITIONAL CRYSTAL TRAFFIC, I AM CONCERNED WE'RE GOING TO PUT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR RESIDENTS IN DANGER. THE ROADWAY ITSELF,IF YOU MEASURE -- TO DO THIS AND DOUBLE CHECK MY NUMBERS DID 18 FEET AFTER PAYMENT AFTER PAYMENT, WE HAVE A TRAVEL LANE OF ONLY NINE FEET IF YOU TAKE A REFLECTORS AND SECOND, YOU ONLY HAVE ABOUT SEVEN AT HALF FEET TO TRAVEL LANE GOOD FOR EMERGENCY RESPONDERS AND FOR THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT TRAFFIC. A SEMI TAKES UP MORE SPACE AND SEVEN FEET. MY CONCERN IS THE TRAFFIC ON THIS ROAD. IF INDUSTRIAL USE IN THIS AREA, WHILE THEY HAVE A PROXIMITY, IT IS NOT DESIGNED FOR THAT BUT HIGHWAY 17 IS INDICTED FOR INDUSTRIAL USE FOR THE ADDRESS -- INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE IN THE PLACES THERE FOR THAT. MY LEFT UP THERE WAS A MULTIFAMILY ASPECT OF THIS WOULD THE DESTRUCTION IDEA WAS BROUGHT FORTH LAST NIGHT BUT I THINK THE COUNTY ENTERED AND STATED IS A COMMON PRACTICE WITH THIS STATUTE, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN TESTED IN COURT BUT I DO NOT FEEL LIKE THE CONCEPTUAL DEED RESTRICTION AND IS NOT BEEN TESTED YET IS A GOOD POINT OF ACTION FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. THERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE A GUARANTEE THEY FALL FLAT IN COURT. THAT IS ONE OF MY PRIMARY CONCERNS FOR THE RESET YOUR TIME TONIGHT AND I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION THAT MR. ROYAL BROUGHT FORTH BUT I'M STILL ABSOLUTELY AGAINST THE . THIS AREA WAS NOT DESIGNED FOR INDUSTRIAL AND ADDING ON MORE INDUSTRIAL DOESN'T HELP GOOD CLAY COUNTY HAS THIS MODEL, RIGHT? I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU, MISS BULHKE. MICHAEL FIAT? DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? CLOSE ENOUGH. OKAY. >> >> 153 WILLIAMS PARKS ROAD, GREEN COVE SPRINGS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME THIS EVENING. I WILL TRY TO STAY CLOSE TO THE MICROPHONE THAT I THINK I'M A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN MY NEIGHBORS BUT I'M A HUGE SUPPORTER OF THE BYPASS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE CHANGE THAT IS POTENTIALLY COMING. I AM A LANDOWNER IN -- AS WELL AS CLAY COUNTY . ON THE RIVERSIDE OF 17 AS WELL. I FEEL THIS IS NOT THE REZONING FOR THIS PIECE OF LAND. I WOULD LIKE TO STEP TO THE NUMBERS. THE APPLICATION. THERE IS A BALD EAGLE NEST MATCHA BUT IF YOU LOOK ON THE MAP, THERE IS ALSO -- ON THE WEST SIDE OF JP HALL ROAD, NORTH OF 226 THERE AS WELL. CLEMENT THAT THEY ARE NUISANCE IS THERE BECAUSE THE GREENWAY IS BEING TAKEN AWAY. THIS TAKES UP MORE GREENWAY. BETTER SUITED TO A LAND CONSERVATION EASEMENT. PERHAPS THE SAID LOCATION OF REQUIREMENTS , IDENTIFY TARGET BUT I DO NOT THINK THERE ANY REQUIREMENTS NECESSARY. MR. WOODS SPOKE IN A LOCATION SOUTH OF -- THERE IS A LOT OF INDUSTRY SOUTH OF GREENE COUNTY SPRINGS, BOTH IN THE COUNTY AND IN THE CITY. REYNOLDS PARK NORTH OF HERE, THERE IS LOTS OF INDUSTRIAL. THAT IS COMPLETELY EMPTY. ACROSS 17 , THERE IS INDUSTRIAL AS WELL BUT I DO NOT THINK WE NEED INDUSTRIAL HERE. LINE 111 SEVEN THIS WILL CREATE AN EXTRA TO USE THAT I THINK THE EDGE ALREADY EXISTS ON THE WEST SIDE OF 209 SOUTH ELEANOR SIDE OF 226 I DO NOT THINK ANY TO BE EXTENDED TO THE EAST AND SOUTH. TALKS ABOUT WALK ABILITY ALONG 117. THERE IS NO WALK ABILITY WITH THE ROAD THAT WAS MENTIONED. THIS IS SOUTH. IT IS NARROWER THAN OLD HARD ROAD. WE WOULD HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE CHANGES WE ARE WANTING TO THE OLD HARD ROAD. THIS IS MUCH -- TOO OLD HARD ROAD AND THE -- ARE IN DANGER. THERE ARE TWO CROSSES ON THE CORNER BY THE A GOT NINE ACRE ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF 226 AND 209. BECAUSE THEIR ACCIDENTS ON THIS ROAD. FATAL ACCIDENTS BECAUSE OF THE WIDTH AND THE DEPTH OF THOSE DITCHES. THE ADDITIONAL ECONOMIC GENERATOR. AS STATED BEFORE, I DO NOT THINK THIS WILL DO THIS. A LOT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT DEED RESTRICTIONS. -- CONDITIONAL ZONING. I DO NOT THINK IB IS THE CORRECT THING FOR THIS BUT WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE. IF YOU WANT COMMERCIAL, IT IS CALLED COMMERCIAL. 120 CREATES AN EDGE. THE SAME POINT. RANDOM THOUGHTS. DRAINAGE IS ALREADY AN ISSUE WITH THE BYPASS THAT IS THERE. AND COMISSIONER BURKE GETS CALLED EVERY TIME THERE IS A MAJOR STORM. IT IS NOT RAINING [00:50:02] NOW. MORE INDUSTRIAL IS COMING. THIS WILL CREATE A GREATER IMPACT. MAYBE THE INSERTION IS WRONG. GREEN: SPRINGS WITH POWER AND WATER. I DO NOT WANT GREEN COVE SPRINGS COMING SOUTH FOR ANNEXATION. SO I WILL LEAVE THAT THERE. BUT THE WATER DOES NOT DRAIN FROM THE DITCHES NORTH OF 226 BECAUSE OF THE BYPASS. I'D BE A HUGE FAN AND SUPPORTER OF LAND CONSERVATION USE. MAYBE THEY COULD ACQUIRE FOR THAT. BARRING THAT, COMMERCIAL WOULD BE AMAZINGTO DETERMINE THE COST OF THE ROAD BUT I WOULD SAY WE ARE AT AN INFLECTION POINT. HERE IN CLAY COUNTY, I LOVE THE PASSION. I DO NOT KNOW THAT ONE, BUT WHEN I LOOK AROUND THE AREA, ST. JOHN'S IS COMING DOWN. OURS IS COMING UP AND WHAT WE WANT TO BE AND WHAT WE WANT TO LOOK LIKE? THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AREAS OF JACKSONVILLE? OR DO WE WANT TO LOOK MORE LIKE A PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK WITH PASSION WITH GREENERY, WITH GROWTH IN MARK I THINK THAT IS WHERE WE WANT TO GO. I AM A FAN OF CHANGE, JUST NOT RIGHT THERE. I DO NOT THINK THAT MAKES SENSE. THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE BUT I THINK THAT IS A LITTLE OF A MISNOMER BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, IT MIGHT BE THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE FROM THAT INTERSECTION. CLAIMANT THE CLOSEST HOUSE TO THE SOUTH BUT IF YOU GO SOUTH OF THAT IT IS MUCH CLOSER TO THE CLOSEST HOUSE IN THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE. NOISE? I THINK EVERYBODY HERE HAS HEARD -- I HEARD THE TRUCKS, THE SCHOOL FROM MY HOUSE. THERE IS NO DOUBT I WOULD HEAR VEHICLES THERE AND I LIVE THREE MILES AS STATED BY MR. ROYAL FROM THAT SITE. TALKED ABOUT NO CONDITIONAL ZONING. YEP. THOSE ARE ALL MY POINTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HEARING ME OUT. >> THANK YOU, SIR. MR. ROYAL? >> @ CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> THANK YOU. EVERYBODY LIKES, NOT EVERYBODY. A LOT OF LIKE -- A DEVELOPMENT PERIOD. THE PEOPLE OF LAKE AS VERY, THE PEOPLE BY THE FARM, THEY'RE ALL KINDS. BUT THE REALITY IS WE ARE NOT THAT PLACE. AS FAR AS CITING THIS ONE, WE STAY AS FAR AWAY FROM HOME AS AN INDUSTRIAL HOME YOU HAVE LOOKED AT. ANY RESIDENTIAL BIG NEIGHBORHOODS. YOU KNOW, I HEARD ALREADY THAT, YOU KNOW, OH, WE DO NOT WANT TO HAVE MULTI FAMILY. OH, WE DID A PLACE FOR THE EAGLES AND THE BEARS. 12,000 ACRES . THAT IS THE BIGGEST ONE WE HAVE GOT. IT IS HUGE. IT IS WONDERFUL. IT IS ACCESSIBLE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT 75 ACRES ON THE CORNER. THE ROADWAY, 215, 226 . I HAVE LIVED HER OVER 35 YEARS THAT I'VE TRAVELED UP AND DOWN 315 AND 15 A. 15 A IS A ZOO. IT DOES NOT LOOK ANYTHING LIKE 226-2226 LOOKS LIKE A HIGHWAY COMPARED TO 15 A BUT IT LOOKS LIKE A HIGHWAY COMPARED TO 315. HOPEFULLY, ONE OF THESE DAYS, LIKE I SAID, 315 IS GOING TO CHANGE. 315 IS GOING TO CHANGE BECAUSE THERE IS TRAFFIC. >> IT IS BEING REROUTED BECAUSE THERE IS TRAFFIC ON IT. IN SARASOTA SPRINGS WITHOUT BEING BUILT, 315 WOULD LOOK LIKE IT DOES NOT BENEFIT FROM WITHIN TO BE MADE, THOSE CAN CERTAINLY BE MADE. EVERY INDUSTRIAL SITE IMPACTS RESIDENCES THAT I DO NOT CARE WHERE YOU PUT IT BUT IT WILL HAVE SOME IMPACT. I HATE PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES ON THAT ROADWAY. I'M NOT SURE IT WAS NOT SOMEBODY FROM A RESIDENT DOWN THERE. WHATEVER IT WAS, WE DO NOT KNOW THAT IT WAS SOMEONE , I DO NOT THINK THERE WAS SOMEBODY WANDERING FROM THE PYRAMID BUILDING OR ANY OF THOSE OTHERS. AGAIN, THERE IS NO REASON FOR ANY OF THAT TRAFFIC TO GO DOWN. THERE IS NO EXIT. THE DRAINAGE OF THAT DEVELOPMENT , THE DRAINAGE, YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN DRAINAGE. THERE IS PROBABLY A PRETTY GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO TAKE ADVANTAGE AND DO A BETTER JOB OF DRAINING THE AREAS AROUND THAT. THE ST. JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND ALL THE PEOPLE DEALING WITH DRAINAGE. THIS WILL BE LAND THAT WILL BE PERMITTED AND TAKEN CARE OF AS OPPOSED TO DITCHES THAT GET DUG OUT BY WHOMEVER. THE COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE A CHANCE . YOU HAVE DITCHES AND SO THEY OVERFLOW. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE TO BECOME PART OF A REAL PLAN AND BE [00:55:03] ADDRESSED. CONSERVATION, AGAIN, HOW MUCH LAND YOU WANT TO CONSERVE? IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE INTERSTATE? THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A LONG WAYS OUT. THIS IS WITHIN A MILE OF THAT INTERCHANGE IN A MILE AND A HALF OF 226. IT WILL HAVE SOME TRAFFIC, BUT IT WILL HAVE A LOT LESS TRAFFIC THAN IF THIS WAS APARTMENTS . THE SAME THING IF IT WAS SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT OR 75 ACRES OF 1:1 TO 75-100 HOMES. THEY'LL BE A LOT MORE CARS AND THAT PROBABLY THAN WHAT WE MAY FIND HERE. WHILE IT WOULD BE GREAT TO NOT DO THAT, I SUSPECT I COULD STAND UP HERE AND MAKE THAT ARGUMENT ABOUT ANY INDUSTRIAL SITE THAT YOU SEE IN THE FUTURE CODE. >> I UNDERSTAND NEIGHBORHOODS. I AM NOT KNOCKING ANYBODY DOING THAT. AT THE SAME TIME, IF YOU'RE ON THE ROAD, THERE IS LIABILITY, AND THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE DOWN TO A NINE GET ON THE ROAD TO GO TO WORK OR WHEREVER THEY ARE GOING, THEY'RE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY, AGAIN, 37,000 HOMES IN THE NEXT 25-30 YEARS. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVERSE THAT TRAFFIC FLOW AND NOT HAVE THOSE PEOPLE . THEY ARE GOING TO LEAVE. THEY WILL LEAVE AND GO THERE BUT IF NOT THEM, THEN PEOPLE FROM THE PARKING WHATEVER IS IMPACTED BUT AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS A PERFECT SITE FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. >> ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE ONE FOR STAFF. NO. >> AND I WILL GET TO YOU. >> -- THE PUBLIC COMMENT AGAIN. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. >> MY NAME IS TRISH ROSS MY ADDRESS IS 5243 COUNTY ROAD -- SOUTH. I WAS HERE AND SPOKE AT THE LAST MEETING WITH YOU GUYS. IT IS KIND OF HARD TO FOLLOW SOME OF THESE FOLKS. PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY MADE THE POINT I WAS GOING TO MAKE. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANT TO ADD TO THAT IS IF YOU DRIVE DOWN 209 SOUTH AND LOOK ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD , IT DID NOT OCCUR TO ME UNTIL -- UNTIL SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT IT. YOU'LL SEE THE DIVOTS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD WHERE YOU DRIVE OFF THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. IT IS NOT VERY WIDE. SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT MAY GO INTO THIS CORNER, IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT IT IS THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD THERE, THERE HAS TO BE THE ROADSIDE TO BE REBUILT . THEY ARE NOT WIDE ENOUGH . NOT WIDE ENOUGH TO HANDLE CONSTRUCTION OF WHAT IS GOING TO GO THERE. 226, 209 SOUTH. ALL OF THOSE ROADS NEED TO BE WIDENED TO ACCOMMODATE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES TO GET THERE. ARE PEOPLE LIVING THERE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE APARTMENTS BUILT THERE. WHATEVER HAPPENS THERE. ALSO, THAT IS OUR ONLY WAY TO GO NORTH. SO I DON'T KNOW. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE DOWN THERE? THAT IS OUR ONLY WAY OUT TO GO TO GREEN COVE ONTO ORANGE PARK BUT IF SOMETHING HAPPENED LIKE THE MENTION OF THE ACCIDENT THAT WAS TWO OR THREE HOURS HAVING 209] THAT HAVE BEEN OUT OF 226 INSTEAD OF NORTH OF 226, EVERYBODY THAT LIVES ON TO A NINE SOUTH WOULD HAVE TO DRIVE 20-25 MILES AROUND 17, COME UP FROM -- ROAD AND BACK TO THEIR HOUSE BUT THAT IS THE ONLY WAY IN AND OUT AT THIS POINT. I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ABOUT IT BUT EVERYBODY ELSE KIND OF TOUCHED ON WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, WE LIKE OUR RURAL AREA. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CAME TO CLAY COUNTY AND MOVED HERE, LIKE MYSELF THAT I GREW UP IN MANDARIN. -- HAS BLOSSOMED EVEN SINCE I GREW UP OVER THERE. I MOVED HERE BECAUSE I WANTED THE RURAL LIFESTYLE. UNFORTUNATELY, OUT OF ENCROACHING THE FARTHER YOU GO. I KNOW IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THIS COULD BRING SOME POTENTIAL JOBS. THAT'S GREAT, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT DO ALREADY LIVE HERE, WE DO NOT WANT TO PUSH THOSE PEOPLE OUT EITHER. WE WOULD JUST LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER , I GUESS , SHUTTING US DOWN LIKE YOU DID LAST TIME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. [01:00:04] >> >> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? OKAY. CLOSING THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. THE PAYMENTS FOR ROADS >> YES, SIR. >> AND OF THOSE GET COLLECTED WHEN BUILDING PERMITS ARE ISSUED? >> I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER . IT HAS BEEN A WHILE SINCE I HAVE BEEN OVER THERE. >> I BELIEVE THEY GET PAID WHEN DRC APPROVES THE APPLICATION. OH, THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> YES. OKAY. THERE IS A QUESTION , MADAM CODY ATTORNEY . IF I COULD ASK YOU? THERE'S THE QUESTION RAISED ABOUT THE MULTIFAMILY. AND IF WE ADDED THAT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT , HOW CONFIDENT ARE YOU THAT THAT IS ENFORCEABLE? >> >> SOME CLARITY ON THAT BECAUSE IT HAD NOT BEEN CHALLENGED. THAT IS A GREAT ANSWER. I ALSO WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD BUT WE DO NOT DEAL WITH ROADS HERE BUT I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IS NOT PART OF ME RENDERING A VOTE BUT I WANT TO ASK ABOUT THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD. I THINK COMISSIONER BURKE IS ASKING ABOUT THAT. IF THIS IS APPROVED, THROUGH THE BBC, THEN WILL THE COUNTY REQUIRE THOSE ROADS CAN BE IMPROVED? IF SO, WILL DEVELOPER HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT? >> THAT IS REALLY A QUESTION FOR ENGINEERING. HAVE TO GO THROUGH DRC IN WHICH TIME ENGINEERING WOULD WEIGH IN AND MAKE REQUIREMENTS BEFORE THE PLAN WOULD BE APPROVED. SUBSEQUENTLY, IT WOULD , BUILDING PERMITS WOULD NOT BE APPROVED . >> OKAY, SO THERE IS A GAP TO MAKE SURE THE ROADS ARE ADEQUATE BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT WAS FORWARD, EVEN IF THIS GETS APPROVED TODAY? >> CORRECT. >> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> DO YOU KNOW -- YOU SAID ENGINEERING HAS NOT WAITED ON THIS . YOU KNOW IF THERE ANY OTHER PLANS WITHIN THE COUNTY TO DO ANYTHING TO THOSE ROADS? TO THAT ROAD RIGHT NOW? >> NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. I DON'T KNOW. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ? >> JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS. I THINK THAT THE ARGUMENT HAS BEEN MADE ON BOTH SIDES . HONESTLY, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IS AHEAD OF WHERE IT SHOULD BE AT THIS POINT. IT MAY NOT BE A GOOD PROJECT AND ALL OF THAT STUFF STARTS TO FILL IN. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS JUST AHEAD OF WHERE IT SHOULD BE. I DON'T THINK THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS READY. I DO NOT SEE ANYTHING IN OUR PACKET ABOUT WHOEVER IS SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE WATER AND SEWER AND WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO DO THAT. I JUST, THERE ARE A LOT OF OPEN QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THIS ALL EVENTUALLY COMES TOGETHER. >> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? >> I WILL JUST SHARE SOME THOUGHTS AS WELL, IF I MAY? SO I UNDERSTAND THE POSITION THAT WAS JUST DESCRIBED. HOWEVER, I WILL TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH. IN CLAY COUNTY, WE HAVE TO START ACKNOWLEDGING THE BELTWAY IS HERE. AS OF THE SUMMER, IT IS HERE. AND WE HAVE FOUGHT FOR 25-30 YEARS AS A COUNTY TO HAVE THAT OUTER WE BROUGHT HERE. TO STOP GROWTH NOW , TO ME, IT SEEMS , I WILL SAY, NOT A PRUDENT DECISION. WE SHOULD BE LOOKING TO BUILD ON THE STATE INVESTMENT IN OUR COUNTY. THIS IS NOT CLAY COUNTY'S MONEY THAT BUILT THAT OTHER WAY. THAT IS THE STATE'S MONEY. IT IS [01:05:01] INCUMBENT ON US TO START TAKING STEPS TO IMPROVE THE PROPERTIES AROUND THE OUTER BELTWAY SO WE CAN BRING JOBS TO THE COUNTY. AND FOLKS DO NOT HAVE TO DRIVE TO JACKSONVILLE OR DRIVE TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY. BUT WE CAN LIVE AND WORK IN THIS COUNTY. FOR THE OUTER BELTWAY AND ITS LOCATION TO THIS PARCEL AND BECAUSE THERE IS INDUSTRIAL CATTY CORNER TO IT, I SUPPORT THIS ONE. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. MR. CHAIR , I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A FEW THOUGHTS MYSELF . WE HAVE A GOOD ROBUST VISITATION. I WANT TO SAY THAT THE FOLKS WHO ARE HERE SPEAKING IN DEFENSE OF THEIR LIFESTYLE, YOU KNOW, HOW TO PHRASE IT? BOTH SIDES ARE PRESENTED WELL. IT IS A DIFFICULT DECISION. IT REALLY IS. BUT -- MADE SOME GREAT POINTS IN TERMS OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN A VERY DENSELY POPULATED AREA. AGAIN, THAT IMPACT YOU PERSONALLY. THIS AREA, I DO NOT LIVE THERE, BUT I'VE TRAVELED UP AND DOWN THE ROAD MANY TIMES. THERE IS A HUGE WAREHOUSE BUT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IS THAT WAREHOUSE JUST NORTH OF YOUR PROPERTY? OKAY. IN MY HEAD IT WAS SOUTH, BUT I SEE ON THE MAP IT IS NORTH. NEARLY 1 MILLION SQUARE FEET AND IT HAS BEEN THERE FOR DECADES. THE -- HAS BEEN THERE . THIS IS JUST ACROSS THE STREET, BASICALLY, IF I UNDERSTAND -- FACILITY. THE OTHER THING THAT REGISTERED WITH ME WAS THE FACT THIS IS AN 80 ACRE PARCEL SURROUNDED BY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, ALL THE WAY AROUND, POCKETED BY ADDITIONAL WILDLIFE AREAS FIT APPROXIMATELY 12,000 ACRES. THAT IS LESS THAN 7/10 OF A PERCENT IN TERMS OF JUST A COMPARISON. I ALSO AGREE WITH THE CONCEPT IN THIS IDEA THAT WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE. THAT IS WHY THE OUTER BELTWAY WAS BUILT. THE POPULATION IS PROJECTED TO BE 300,000 . WE ARE AT 230 RIGHT NOW. 235. PROJECTED TO GROW TO 300,000 IN 15 YEARS. SO THE IDEA THAT , YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO CREATE MORE JOBS. SO I ALSO WILL SUPPORT IT COULD I DO NOT WANT TO RAMBLE ON AND ON ABOUT IT BUT I FEEL BAD IN THE SENSE BECAUSE I LIVE IN A RURAL AREA. I CONTEMPLATED WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF SOMEBODY PLOPPED SOMETHING LIKE THIS BEHIND ME? I AM HUGE ON PROPERTY RIGHTS FOR THOSE PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO COME IN AND SEEK TO CHANGE THE ZONING AND TO TRY TO DEVELOP IT. THE OTHER THING THAT YOU CANNOT PUT THIS IN THE ORDINANCE. BUT IT CANNOT FIND A BETTER ADVOCATE FOR CLAY COUNTY AND THE GROWTH OF CLAY COUNTY THEM -- SO I FIND, IT IS NOT THE OUT OF TIME GUY COMING IN AND BUYING UP LAND AND DISAPPEARING. THAT IS NOT WHO HE IS. SO I FIND THEM COMFORT IN THAT. I WILL DEFINITELY BE VOTING TO SUPPORT. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> I GUESS I SHOULD SIGN IN TOO. I AGREE WITH ALL THE COMMENTS FROM EVERYONE SO FAR ON THIS. MY BIGGEST QUESTION I HAD ALL THE TIME IS NOT INFRASTRUCTURE. WHERE ALWAYS , SOMETIMES, I FEEL LIKE WE ARE ALWAYS PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. YOU KNOW, I JUST HATE TO SEE US GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE THE INSUFFICIENT ROADWAY IS GOING TO IMPACT FAMILIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT CURRENTLY LIVE THERE IN THE ANTICIPATION OF WHAT IS GOING TO POTENTIALLY BE COMING FOR THE FUTURE. I AM REALLY NOT SURE HOW I REALLY FEEL ABOUT THIS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS A YES OR NO FOR ME . >> I WOULD, AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE QUESTION. NOBODY IS GOING TO -- IF THERE IS NOT AN INDUSTRIAL PARK THERE. IF THEY PUT THE NATIONAL PARK THERE, YOU PRETTY MUCH HAVE TO IMPROVE THE ROAD . >> RIGHT. THE MOBILITY FIELDS WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT. >> -- IN THAT AREA THAT IS JUST ACROSS FROM THERE RIGHT NOW. >> WHY HAS THAT NOT BEEN IMPROVED? THAT IS MY QUESTION. I SHOULD'VE BEEN APPROVED ALREADY JUST BASED ON -- >> THERE HAS BEEN SOME IMPROVEMENT. I WILL NOT GO TO THE DETAILS THE COUNTY ROAD 209 UP BY 17 HAS DEFINITELY BEEN IMPROVED. >> OKAY. >> THERE IS A TRULY THAT IS AND ADDED, IT IS BEEN REPAVED A CERTAIN DISTANCE. >> I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, IF I MAY? THIS BODY DOES NOT MAKE DECISIONS ON TRAFFIC OR ROADS >> I KNOW THAT. I KNOW THAT. I KNOW THAT. >> AND TO BUILD, AS WELL , I KNOW -- AND HE IS A VERY BIG ADVOCATE FOR THE COUNTY. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I COMPLETELY SUPPORT THAT. AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN I SEE THE ISSUES THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE, THEY HAVE BEEN THERE. THEY ARE THERE ALREADY. YOU KNOW, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO [01:10:01] ACCOMMODATE THEM AT THE SAME TIME WE ACCOMMODATE THAT? THAT IS MY QUESTION ALWAYS IS AND MY CONCERN IS. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. I WILL PUT MY TWO CENTS IN. I MIGHT AS WELL. EVERYBODY ELSE HAS AND I LIVE IN A RURAL AREA. WHEN I FIRST MOVED TO FLORIDA. I DO NOT LIVE IN A NO AREA ANYMORE. THERE IS NO WAY YOU'RE GOING TO STOP DEVELOPMENT OR EVEN TRY TO CONTROL IT. WHAT EVERYBODY SAYS IS TRUE. INFRASTRUCTURE DOES NOT COME FIRST. IT USUALLY COMES LAST AFTER EVERYBODY ELSE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE APPLIED THE PRESSURE POINTS IN ORDER TO GET IT DONE. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE NEED FOUR MOTIONS ON THIS . AM I CORRECT? TWO ON COMP IN TWO ON ZONING PROLEPTIC ONE AGENDA ITEM AT A TIME. TO HAVE A MOTION ON COMP. >> APPROVING STAFF REPORT. >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COMP 24-0020? COMP 25-003. MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION? THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN? >> AYE. >> OKAY. ZONING 25002. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> OPPOSED? >> AYE. >> SAME. SAME. OKAY. COMP 24-0020. >> MOTION APPROVED. >> I CAN. >> ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. THERE IS A MOTION IN A SECOND. THOSE WHO MOVED TO APPROVE SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSED? >> AYE. >> OKAY. ZONING 24-0026. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> MOTION MADE IN A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? THOSE WHO APPROVE SAY AYE. >> OPPOSED? >> AYE. >> OKAY. RIGHT. HI >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THERE ARE STILL A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO [5.  Public Hearing to Consider ZON 25-0003. (Districts 2,3,4 and 5) (B. Carson)] GO HERE. DO WE NEED A MOTION ON THE 25003? >> OH, THERE IS? >> YEAH. >> DOES THAT ONE CONTINUE? >> OH, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THIS ITEM IS SO 25-0003. STAFF WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE ON THIS ITEM AT THAT POINT, WE WILL BE BRINGING EXEMPTION. >> OKAY. DO WE NEED TO, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS AGENDA ITEM? OKAY. THEN WE WILL NEED TO HEAR THAT, RIGHT? OKAY, YOU CAN CHOOSE TO SPEAK NOW OR YOU CAN CHOOSE APRIL 1ST OR YOU CAN CHOOSE BOTH. >> BECAUSE I AM HERE I DO NOT KNOW -- >> HELIPAD MY NAME IS HELENA -- MY ADDRESS IS 2039 WOODBRIDGE CROSSING COURT -- AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY AND EVERYTHING THEY ARE DOING AT THE COUNTY AND BRINGING THIS BEFORE Y'ALL. I HAVE HAD MULTIPLE FAMILIES THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME ON THIS ONE. IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT. I HOPE THIS IS SOMETHING Y'ALL ARE ABLE TO PASS WHEN IT COMES BACK WITH A DIFFERENT INFORMATION. HONESTLY, WE WANT EVERYTHING TIDIED UP WITH IT BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE LAND AND WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS LIVE ON THAT LAND AND BE ABLE TO SPLIT IT UP. THANK YOU TO THE STAFF AT EVERYTHING THEY ARE DOING AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS THEY ARE MAKING. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. I WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. THERE WAS AN EMAIL ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. THIS ONE? SOMEBODY -- WELL, IT WAS THE COC RECOMMENDATION. [01:15:08] >> YES. WE WILL BRING THAT UP WHEN WE BRING VOLUME ] >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE NEED A MOTION IN A SECOND TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL APRIL 1ST. >> >> SECOND. >> OKAY, THERE IS A MOTION IN A SECOND. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. OKAY, THAT CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA. I HAVE ONE MORE PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL OPEN IT FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD AS ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK OF ANYTHING PERTINENT TO THIS BOARD? THIS COMMISSION? THINK NOBODY COMING FORWARD, I WILL CLOSE IT. OUR NEXT MEETING IS WHAT? THE FIRST TUESDAY? WHAT DAY IS THAT? OKAY. THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION IS APRIL 1ST. THE FIRST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH. ARE THERE ANY PRESENTATIONS? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. I UNDERSTAND WE ARE SUPPOSED TO , THE COMMISSIONERS NEED TO LEAVE OUR LEVITATES -- OUR LAPTOPS WITH YOU, MS. HENRY? AND WILL BE CONTACTED? WILL EACH RECEIVE THE SAME LAPTOP WE ARE TURNING IN? OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. >> >> THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW. OKAY, THANK YOU. >> JUST ONE QUESTION IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR? COMMISSIONER RALPH PUCKHABER AND I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO PAPER COPIES IF WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. >> UNIT THE POWER CORDS? THE MOUSEPAD? OKAY. >> * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.