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          >> WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE JOIN US AND COMMISSIONER RENNINGER FOR THE INVOCATION. 
          >> HEAVENLY FATHER, PLEASE BE WITH US AS WE BEGIN THIS NEW YEAR IN SERVICE TO OUR COUNTY . THE CHALLENGES WILL BE GREAT , WITH YOUR GUIDANCE, HELP US MAKE THE RIGHT AND BEST DECISIONS FOR CLAY COUNTY. WHILE THERE IS A CONFLICT IN THE MIDDLE EAST ONGOING AND AGGRESSION UKRAINE, HELP THE NEW ADMINISTRATION , WHICH TAKES OFFICE NEXT WEEK, ASSIST THE PARTIES RESOLVE CONFLICTS. HERE AT HOME , PLACE YOUR GUIDING HAND AND HELP HEAL ALL SUFFERING , WHETHER IT BE FROM CURRENT ILLNESSES ARE CATASTROPHIC EVENTS, SUCH AS WHAT WE HAVE IN THE WEST COAST OF THIS NATION OR CLAY COUNTY WITH YOUNG DAUGHTER WHO HAS NEARLY LOST FOUR PARENTS. TO QUOTE MARTIN LUTHER KING, THE MEASURE OF THE MAN IS NOT WHERE HE STANDS IN MOMENTS OF COMFORT AND CONTENTMENT, BUT WHERE HE STANDS IN TIMES OF CHALLENGE AND CONTROVERSY. AS ALWAYS, BE WITH OUR EFFORTS OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND THOSE STANDING THROUGHOUT THE WORLD AND OUR MILITARY. IN YOUR NAME, WE 
          PRAY, AMEN. >> I APOLOGIZE , WE HAVE A LOT OF PAPER . I DO NOT HAVE MY HANDS ON MY SCRIPT. I REALLY APOLOGIZE . IT'S FOR THE PLEDGE. I'M REALLY SORRY. I WAS DISORGANIZED AND THIS IS NOT STAFF'S FAULT, BUT THIS IS MY FAULT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOT IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          I'M SO SORRY. OUR VETERAN THAT PLEDGE TODAY -- THIS IS WHY WE HAVE GREAT PEOPLE TO HELP US RECOVER. OUR VETERAN LED PLEDGE IS FIRST-CLASS PETTY OFFICER MELINDA M. WOOD . SHE JOINED THE NAVY TO TRAVEL THE WORLD AND SERVED FOR OVER 20 YEARS BEFORE RETIRING ON JULY 31ST, 2017. I HOPE YOU GOT TO SEE THE 
          WORLD FOR THAT LONG. >> I DID. 
          >> SHE SERVED AS A NAVAL AIR CREWMAN AND STATIONED IN SEVERAL LOCATIONS, INCLUDING CALIFORNIA, PENSACOLA, FLORIDA, JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA AND HAWAII. PETTY OFFICER WHAT IS IT VETERAN WHO SERVED THE NAVY COMMENDATION MEDAL AND MULTIPLE ACHIEVEMENT MEDALS. DURING HER TIME IN THE NAVY, SHE LEARNED THAT HARD WORK DOES PAY OFF. HER FAVORITE MEMORIES WERE FLYING SEVEN DEPLOYMENTS TO THE MIDDLE EAST WITH OVER 3500 HOURS ON BOARD THE P3 ORION. SHE IS AN ORANGE PARK RESIDENT AND ENJOYS VOLUNTEERING AS A COMMANDER WITH THE BLACK CREEK YOUNG MARINES. WE APPRECIATE THAT. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME IN THE MILITARY AND SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. WE ASK YOU TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE, THEN YOU CAN SAY A FEW 
          WORDS. >> PLEASE JOIN IN THE PLEDGE. 
          >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          >> THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY? 
          >> I DO. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I DID RETIRE IN 2017 AND I WASN'T READY TO STOP GIVING, SO I WENT TO A PROGRAM WITH MY OLDEST SON WHO IS STILL IN THE BLACK CREAM YOUNG MARINE. I HAVE BEEN IN THE PROGRAM FOR SIX YEARS AND I TOOK OVER LAST YEAR AS A UNIT COMMANDER. WE HAD $400 IN OUR ACCOUNT AND THIS IS A NONPROFIT. AS OF NOW, WE HAVE $12,000 IN OUR ACCOUNT AND WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO GET THESE KIDS TO WASHINGTON, D.C. BEFORE IT'S ERASED COMPLETELY FROM SCHOOL. I HAVE FIVE KIDS OF MY OWN AND THE KIDS TODAY ARE A DIFFERENT BREED AND I BELIEVE THEY LACK SELF-RESPECT AND DISCIPLINE ACROSS THE BOARD. THIS PROGRAM STANDS FOR DISCIPLINE , SELF-RESPECT AND CONFIDENCE. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CHECK US OUT ON FACEBOOK AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE DONE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE HAVE RAISED NEW FLAGS FOR FLAG CEREMONIES AND WE GET BACK TO ALL OF THE RETIREMENT HOMES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND WE 
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PLAY GAMES WITH THEM. ANYTHING THE COMMUNITY ASKS US TO DO, WE ARE THERE. WE ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT AND WE WERE ABLE TO PRESENT COLORS AT THE NFL FOOTBALL GAME TWO SUNDAYS AGO AND THAT WAS HUGE FOR THESE KIDS TO BE OUT ON THE FIELD. LET ME TELL YOU, THEY NAILED IT. THE YOUNG MARINES CLOSED THEIR DOORS AND CAME TO US. I WENT FROM 17 KIDS TO 37 KIDS . IF ANYONE WANTS TO COME AND VOLUNTEER, WE ARE LOOKING FOR MORE EYES AND EARS TO HELP US OUT. THAT'S HOW I'M GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND I HOPE TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT AFTER MY 20 YEARS OF SERVICE. THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME. 
          >> ME, BECAUSE I FLEW AS THREE AND SHE ASKED ME, WHAT IS A S3? I 
          ASKED HER, WHAT WAS A P3. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I WILL 
          [CALL TO ORDER]
NOW CALL TO ORDER THE JANUARY 14, 2025 BOARD OF COUNTY 
          [PET ADOPTIONS]
COMMISSIONERS MEETING . LET THE RECORD REFLECT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT. WE WILL MOVE INTO PET ADOPTIONS. 
          >> OUR FIRST DOG TODAY IS SAM, NEUTERED MALE HOUND MAKES, SEVEN YEARS OLD AND WEIGHS 61 POUNDS. AT SEVEN YEARS OLD , HE IS READY TO BE YOUR LOYAL SIDE COOK SIDEKICK. HE HAS MASTERED THE ART OF COEXISTING WITH OTHER DOGS , THRIVING IN THE COMPANY OF ALL KINDS OF PERSONALITIES, MALE AND FEMALE. 
          HIS MEDIUM ENERGY JUST ENOUGH TO KEEP YOU ENTERTAINED WITHOUT WEARING YOU OUT. WHATEVER THE ACTION IS, SAM WANTS TO BE RIGHT THERE WITH HIS PEOPLE. HE'S A SOCIAL BUTTERFLY WITH A HOUND DOG FLARE. YES, HE WILL LET YOU KNOW IF HE FEELS LEFT OUT, BECAUSE HE LIKES TO SHARE HIS THOUGHTS IN TRUE HOUND FASHION. NEXT, WE HAVE THE BEANS. A NEUTERED MALE MIXED BREED THAT WEIGHS 46 POUNDS. HE IS AN EIGHT YEAR OLD MELLOW GUY WITH A HEART FULL OF LOVE. HE IS GREAT WITH SUBMISSIVE DOGS OF SIMILAR SIZE PREFERRING COMPANION TO SHARE HIS LAID-BACK TEMPERAMENT. HE ENJOYS TOYS, CHOOSE AND MOST OF ALL, SUCKING UP ATTENTION. HE'S AFFECTIONATE AND KNOWS HIS BASIC COMMANDS AND IS EAGER TO PLEASE WITH HIS INCREDIBLE TREAT MOTIVATION. THIS LOW-ENERGY SENIOR IS LOOKING FOR A CALM LOVING HOME WHERE HE CAN ENJOY THE SIMPLE JOYS OF LIFE. IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A SWEET COMPANION, HE'S READY TO STEAL YOUR HEART. OUR FIRST CAT IS CHEERIO, DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR ONE YEAR OLD AND WEIGHS EIGHT POUNDS. CHEERIO IS A ONE-YEAR-OLD EIGHT POUND CALICO THAT IS ANYTHING BUT TYPICAL. 
          SHE IS AS FRIENDLY AS YOU CAN BE AND LOVES SEEKING ATTENTION FROM HER FAVORITE PEOPLE. IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A CUDDLY AFFECTIONATE COMPANION, SHE IS OR GIRL WITH HER GORGEOUS CALICO COAT AND SWEET DEMEANOR AND SHE SHARES . READY TO ADD LOVE TO YOUR HOME? COME MEET CHEERIO TODAY. LASTLY, SABRINA, DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR ONE-YEAR-OLD AND WEIGHS 5.3 POUNDS. SHE IS NOT YOUR AVERAGE BLACK CAT. SHE HAS A PERSONALITY THAT IS AS BOLD AS HER SLEEP CODE AND A TREND THAT WILL LEAVE YOU MEN MESMERIZED. SHE'S ALWAYS ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THE NEXT ADVENTURE , WHETHER IT'S A FUN PLAY SESSION OR CUDDLING WITH YOU. HER DEEP MYSTERIOUS BLACK FUR ADDS TO HER ALLURE , BUT IT'S HER SWEET LOVING NATURE THAT TRULY SHINES. IF YOU ARE READY FOR A COMPANION WHO IS AS INTRIGUING AS SHE IS ADORABLE, COME MEET THE SPECIAL GIRL TODAY. WE ARE STILL IN NEED OF FOSTER PARENTS FOR DOGS, CATS AND KITTENS. CONSIDER OPENING YOUR HOME TEMPORARILY. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, CONTACT US AT CLAY FOSTERS AT CLAY COUNTY GO .COM. TAKE A LOOK AT OUR AMAZON WISH LIST. WE ARE IN NEED OF ITEMS FOR OUR FOSTER CUSHIONS AND SHELTER ANIMALS. JUST GO TO AMAZON.COM. THAT 
          COMPLETES OUR PET ADOPTIONS. >> THAT LAST CAT LOOKS SCARED , 
          [1.  Martin Luther King, Jr. Day in Clay (Jan 20, 2025)]
BUT SHE'S PROBABLY VERY FRIENDLY. NOW, WE MOVE INTO OUR PROCLAMATIONS. IF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WOULD JOIN ME DOWN FRONT. 
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THE FIRST PROCLAMATION IS FOR MLK DAY IN CLAY. JANUARY 20, 2025 IS NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED AS MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. DAY IN HONOR OF THE LIFE AND SERVICE OF THIS AMERICAN VISIONARY WHO STRIVED TO EMPOWER PEOPLE AND WAS DEDICATED TO ATTAINING EQUALITY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL AMERICANS. 
          WE HONOR HIS LEGACY AND LIFETIME OF SERVICE WITH A PROCLAMATION. CITY OF GREEN CO. SPRINGS MAYOR, ARE YOU HERE? HE IS HERE TO RECOGNIZE HELP RECOGNIZE DR. KING AND RECOGNIZE EVERYONE TO THE ANNUAL MLK CEREMONY, WHICH HE WILL TALK TO US ABOUT . FIRST, WE WILL HAVE COMMISSIONER 
          COMPERE READ OUR PROCLAMATION. >> WHEREAS , REVEREND DR. 
          MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. DEVOTED HIS LIFE TO THE STRUGGLE FOR EQUALITY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL AMERICANS AND LEAD EFFORTS THAT RESULTED IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964 AND THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT OF 1965 AND WHEREAS DR. KING IS RECOGNIZED AS ONE OF THE GREATEST VISIONARY LEADERS WHO STRIVE TO EMPOWER PEOPLE AND CHALLENGE THEM TO LIFT UP THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES BEFORE TRAGICALLY BEING ASSASSINATED IN 1968 AND WHEREAS HIS STRENGTH , PERSISTENCE, DETERMINATION AND SERVICE TO OTHERS ARE THE BETTER WHICH WE HONOR THE DATE OF HIS BIRTH WITH THE MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. NATIONAL DAY OF SERVICE AND WHEREAS THE HONORING OF HIS LEGACY SHOULD NOT ONLY BE A TRIBUTE TO HIS CONTRIBUTIONS TO AMERICA AND THE WORLD, BUT ALSO AS A REMINDER THAT EACH OF US COMPLETE CAN PLAY A ROLE IN HIS CRUCIAL WORK EVERY DAY. CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA DOES JOIN THE NATION IN CELEBRATING MY MOTHER KING JUNIOR DAY ON JANUARY 20, 2025 AND ENCOURAGES EVERYONE TO DEDICATE THIS DATE TO THE SERVICE OF OTHERS. BY THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS , THIS 14TH DAY OF JANUARY , 25. DO I HAVE THAT MOTION? I THINK IT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIRWOMAN AND COMMISSIONERS , FOR PRESENTING THE PROCLAMATION . I'M HONORED TO RECEIVE ON BEHALF AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY, AS WELL. 
          NORMALLY WE HAVE THE CEREMONY AT FRANCIS PARK ON MONDAY, BUT THERE'S A BIG EVENT GOING ON. I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A LOT GOING ON. WE ARE DOING IT ON DR. KING'S BIRTHDAY TOMORROW EVENING AT THE FIRST MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH DOWN THE STREET HERE WHERE WE WILL HAVE GUEST SPEAKERS, PERFORMANCES. IT'S AT 6:30 P.M. AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF RSVPS ALREADY, BUT YOU ARE WELCOME TO COME JOIN AND HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE. I WILL ALSO MENTION THE PROCLAMATION DURING OUR CEREMONY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          [2.  Recognition of Carson Pickett, National Women's Soccer League Champion]
          >> WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT PROCLAMATION FOR OUR NEXT ONE, BUT IT'S SUPER EXCITING. TODAY, WE HAVE A SPECIAL RECOGNITION FOR PROFESSIONAL WOMEN'S SOCCER PLAYER CARSON PICKETT . A NATIVE WHO ACHIEVED EXTRAORDINARY SUCCESS IN HER CAREER AND INSPIRED YOUNG ATHLETES ACROSS THE NATION . HOPE TO INSPIRE SOME EDEMA. 
          CARSON, DO YOU WANT TO COME UP AND IF ANYONE WANTS TO COME WITH YOU? COMMISSIONER SGROMOLO WILL PRESENT OUR PROCLAMATION . 
          HAVE YOU SAY A FEW WORDS. >> WHAT THE PROCLAMATION SAYS IS WHEREAS CARSON PICKETT, PROUD NATIVE OF FLORIDA HAS ACHIEVED EXTORTING HER SUCCESS OF PROFESSIONAL SOCCER INSPIRING COUNTLESS INDIVIDUALS ON AND OFF THE FIELD. CARSON PICKETT HAS BECOME A PASSIONATE ADVOCATE FOR DIFFERENCE AWARENESS PROVING THAT DETERMINATION CAN OVERCOME ANY CHALLENGE. CARSON PICKETT ATTENDED ST. JOHN'S SCHOOL WHERE SHE LED THE SOCCER TEAM FOR THREE STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS AND EARNED NUMEROUS ACCOLADES INCLUDING THE NATIONAL GATORADE SOCCER PLAYER OF THE YEAR IN FLORIDA TIME PLAYER OF THE YEAR IN 2012. SHE CONTINUED HER CAREER AT FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY AND SHE WAS A FOUR YEAR STARTING DEFENDER AND 
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LEADS THE SEMINOLES TO THEIR FIRST EVER NCAA DIVISION I THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP IN 2014 AND HER DEFENSE ALLOWED NOBLES THROUGHOUT THE TOURNAMENT. CARSON PICKETT WAS DRAFTED FOURTH OVERALL IN THE FIRST ROUND BY THE SEATTLE RAIN FOOTBALL CLUB IN 2016 AND HAS SINCE EXCELLED IN HER PROFESSIONAL CAREER IN THE NORTH CAROLINA COURAGE WHERE SHE WAS NAMED TWICE TO THE NWS SO BEST 11 IN 2021 AND 2022. IN 2022, SHE MADE HISTORY AS THE FIRST EVER PLAYER TO REPRESENT THE UNITED STATES WOMEN'S NATIONAL TEAM DEBUTED AGAINST COLUMBIA AND SERVING AS AN INSPIRATION TO YOUNG ATHLETES EVERYWHERE. HER CAREER REACHED NEW HEIGHTS IN 2024 AS A PLAYER FOR THE ORLANDO PRIDE CONTRIBUTE TO THE TEAM'S NATIONAL WOMEN'S SOCCER LEAGUE SHIELDED CHAMPIONSHIP. CARSON PICKETT'S DEDICATION TO EXCELLENCE, SPORTSMANSHIP AND RESILIENCE SERVES AS A BEACON OF HOPE, MOTIVATION FOR OUR RESIDENTS OF CLAY COUNTY AND BEYOND. NOW, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE CLAY COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HEREBY RECOGNIZE AS AN OWNER , CARSON PICKETT FOR HER OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN SOCCER AND HER INSPIRATION TO ATHLETES ALL OVER THE U.S. AND UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE. BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THIS PROCLAMATION IS PRESENTED TO CARSON PICKETT AS A TOKEN OF OUR COMMUNITIES PRIDE AND GRATITUDE FOR YOUR REPRESENTATION OF FLEMING ISLAND AND CLAY COUNTY ON THE GLOBAL STAGE. DULY ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS OF FLORIDA, THIS 14TH DAY OF JANUARY, 2025. DO I HAVE A MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR? AWESOME. 
          IT IS NOW INTO THE RECORD. I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS, OUR PARKS DIRECTOR HAS A HASHTAG HE USES ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND ITS START IN PARKS. YOUR STORY GROWING UP HERE IN CLAY COUNTY AT THE CLAY COUNTY SOCCER CLUB , JUST LIKE SO MANY KIDS IN OUR COMMUNITY , IT REALLY DOES MATTER AND MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE. THE NATIONAL MEDIA WILL TELL YOU A LOT ABOUT CARSON'S AWARENESS. THEY WON'T TELL YOU IS WHAT TYPE OF PERSON SHE IS. SHE WILL TELL YOU THESE ACCOLADES OR AWARDS, BUT SHE TRULY IS A FANTASTIC TEAMMATE AND SHE'S A MOTIVATOR. PEOPLE SEE THAT AND PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY SEE THAT. WE ARE SO PROUD THAT YOU ARE FROM CLAY COUNTY. WE WISH YOU THE BEST. GOING BACK TO ORLANDO NEXT YEAR IN THE MAJOR LEAGUE OF SOCCER, SO TO SPEAK. WE WISH YOU THE BEST. 
          YOU GET THE MICROPHONE. I'M SORRY. 
          >> WASN'T PREPARED FOR THIS, BUT THAT'S OKAY. I FEEL VERY HONORED FOR THIS. THANK YOU ALL. I'M PROUD OF WHERE I COME FROM AND I HOPE TO INSPIRE GENERATIONS AND ANYONE COMING UP AND KIDS OR ADULTS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS. I'M SO APPRECIATIVE AND I HOPE I INSPIRE EVERY SINGLE DAY. 
          [3.  National Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetists Week - (January 19-25, 2025)]
          >> WE DO HAVE ONE DECLARATION. WE OFTEN DO DECLARATIONS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE SOMEONE ON SITE PRESENTLY TO REPRESENT THE ORGANIZATION, BUT WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE THEM . WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE JANUARY 19 THROUGH 25 AS NATIONAL CERTIFIED REGISTERED NURSE AND THAT THIS TASTES WEAK. . IT'S A SPECIAL DESIGNATION FOR CERTIFIED NURSES AND AESTHETICIANS WHO ARE PRACTICED REGISTERED NURSES. THEY PROVIDE ANESTHESIA, CARE , INCLUDING AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTERS AND IN PHYSICIANS OFFICES. THEY HAVE DONE THIS FOR MORE THAN 
          [00:20:06]
150 YEARS. CRNA'S ARE AMONG THE NATION 'S MOST TRUSTED MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS . THERE IS A DECLARATION FOR THEM ATTACHED TO TODAY'S AGENDA TO HIGHLIGHT THE CRITICAL MEDICAL SERVICES THEY PROVIDE, SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO READ THAT 
          [Department of Transportation LAP Recertification Presentation (Cheryl McGauley-Steinberg/FDOT)]
          TO LEARN MORE. >> WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT IS COMING BEFORE US TODAY. WE HAVE CHERYL TO BRING THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION RECERTIFICATION. 
          SOMEBODY MAY HAVE TURNED THAT MICROPHONE OFF. 
          >> THAT WAS MY FAULT. I TURNED IT OFF. SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          >> THAT'S OKAY. >> I AM PRESENTING THE LAP CERTIFICATION LETTER AND I AM THE COORDINATOR FOR CLAY COUNTY . I DID WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE ENGINEERING AND PURCHASING STAFF THAT I WORK WITH PRETTY MUCH ON A WEEKLY BASIS THAT YOU HAVE IN THE COUNTY. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORKING RELATIONSHIP THAT I HAVE WITH EACH OF THEM. I APPRECIATE THEIR PROFESSIONALISM AND KNOWLEDGE TO EACH PROJECT THAT I WORK WITH THEM ON. THEY MAKE ME VERY COMFORTABLE WHEN I HAVE QUESTIONS OR ISSUES ARISE. I DO NOT HESITATE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE PICKING UP THE PHONE AND CALLING EACH OF THEM AND KNOWING THAT THEY WILL GET BACK WITH ME IN A TIMELY MANNER. IF ISSUES ARE BROUGHT UP, WHICH TYPICALLY THEY ARE, WE RESOLVED THOSE TOGETHER VERY WELL. I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON YOUR ENGINEERING AND PURCHASING STAFF AND I APPRECIATE ALL THEY DO AND YOU HAVE GREAT STAFF. 
          >> THANK YOU. CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE LAP PROGRAM IS FOR THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE PUBLIC? 
          Ú>> THE LAP PROGRAM IS ONE THAT ALLOWS ANY LOCAL AGENCY OR COUNTY TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE FEDERAL FUNDS FOR YOUR CITY OR COUNTY ROADS. D.O.T. WILL TYPICALLY TAKE CARE OF THE STATE ROADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THE LAP FUNDS ARE GIVEN TO US FROM FHWA . FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS YOU HAVE, IT ALLOWS THEM TO GIVE D.O.T. THOSE FUNDS , THEN WE SEND THEM OUT TO THE COUNTIES AS THEY APPROVE THEIR PROJECTS. WITH THE FEDERAL SIDE, THERE IS NATURALLY A LOT OF PAPERWORK AND RED TAPE TO GO THROUGH, BUT WE HELP NAVIGATE THE LOCAL AGENCY AND THAT IS WHAT THE PROGRAM IS FOR. 
          >> THANK YOU. THE LARGEST PROP PROJECT THAT MOST FAMILIAR WITH IS THE WIDENING OF 220 . YOU HAVE BROUGHT US GREAT NEWS TODAY ON THAT . DO YOU WANT TO SHARE THAT OR WANT ME TO READ 
          IT? >> WHICHEVER YOU PREFER. 
          >> SHE HAS BROUGHT US THE NEWS THAT F D.O.T. IS CONTRIBUTING 1.1 MILLION $977 TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE SERVICES FOR COUNTY ROAD Q 20 FROM HANLEY ROAD TONIGHT BOX AND IT IS SCHEDULED TO START NEXT WEEK AND D.O.T. IS ASSISTING IN THIS COST AND IT WILL LESSEN THE BURDEN ON THE COUNTY BUDGETS. SOMEBODY CLAPPED. I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN . HE'S OUR BUDGET GUY. ANYWAY, WE APPRECIATE THAT AND THAT THE COUNTY MANAGER WILL GET THE OFFICIAL LETTER FROM YOU. ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS WHO SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A COPY AT YOUR PLACE AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING US. SHE'S WELCOME TO CS ANYTIME , BUT WHEN SHE BRINGS US NAMES LIKE THAT, IT'S BETTER. 
          >> I HAVE A COMMENT AS THE COMMISSION OF THAT DISTRICTS. 
          WE TRULY APPRECIATE AND THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT NEWS. 
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          >> LIKEWISE. >> WILL USUALLY TRY TO FIND MONEY FROM OTHER PLACES. ANYONE ELSE? WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK 
          [CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS]
YOU. I DO NOT SEE ANY OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS TODAY. 
          HELLO -- TAX COLLECTOR . WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP? YOU WERE 
          BLENDING IN BACK THERE. >> MY STAFF WHEN THEY HEARD THAT THE BIDS WERE GOING OUT AND EVERYDAY, YOU MADE THEIR DAY. ON BEHALF OF ALL OF THE TAX COLLECTOR EMPLOYEES THAT WORK VERY HARD DOING WORK FOR CUSTOMERS AND CLIENTS, WHICH ARE RESIDENTS , THE SPOT WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW MAKES GOING OVER TO BETTER AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT, BUT IT'S REALLY GOOD AND BAD. LOOKING FORWARD TO PARTNERING 
          WITH YOU ON THAT. >> I THINK CONSTRUCTION ON YOUR SITE IS READY TO BEGIN. SORRY FOR MY FOGGY CONTACTS. ANYONE ELSE THAT I MISSED , PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND . ANY OTHER 
          [APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
CONSTITUTIONAL'S? THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE APPRECIATE 
          IT. APPROVAL OF MINUTES. >> MOVE APPROVAL OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES FROM DECEMBER 10, 2024. 
          >> SECOND PRINT >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. NOW, 
          [PUBLIC COMMENTS]
MOVING TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA -- I'M SORRY. DID I SKIP PUBLIC COMMENT? I APOLOGIZE. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS. 
          WE'RE AT THE POINT OF PUBLIC COMMENT. THE BOARD RESERVES THE RIGHT TO MAINTAIN ORDERLY CONDUCT AND PROPER DECORUM IN THE BOARDROOM DURING MEETINGS , INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE FOLLOWING. THOSE THINGS ARE NORMALLY LISTED ON THE SCREENS , BUT THEY ARE DARK TODAY. WE DON'T HAVE THEM UP, BUT WE DO ASK THAT YOU KEEP PROPER DECORUM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          WANT TO LISTEN TO EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY, BUT THERE IS A LISTENING TIME FOR US TO LISTEN, SO WE DON'T ENGAGE IN DIALOGUE, BUT WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, SO REACH OUT THROUGH COMMISSIONERS AT CLAY COUNTY GOT.COM OR CONTACT US INDIVIDUALLY. ALL CAN BE FOUND ON THE WEBSITE. THERE IS ANOTHER EMAIL ADDRESS THAT MY BRAIN IS NOT REMEMBERING RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN ALSO -- ASK CLAY AT CLAY COUNTY@GOV.COM . OUR FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY IS SCOTT. 
          >> I'M NOT GOING TO COME APPEAR MUCH MORE. MY NAME IS SCOTT AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THE INSURANCE FOR EMPLOYEES AND RETIREES, ALSO. I SENT AN EMAIL TO ONE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES ASKING FOR INFORMATION AND I HAVE YET TO GET ANYTHING BACK. I'M GETTING A LITTLE FRUSTRATED. THE FIRST THING I ASK FOR Y'ALL IS TO PLEASE SEND OF THE LIST OF RETIREES AND EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE OPTED OUT AND BACK IN . I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY SOME OF THE SHIRTS OPERATORS SHERIFFS DEPUTIES. THE SECOND THING IS AT THE RETIREMENT MEETING, THERE WAS NO HSA MONEY AVAILABLE OR GIVEN TO THEM OR THE RETIREES. THAT WAS NOT TRUE. WE FOUND OUT THAT THEY ARE GIVEN SOME, BUT SOME MADE THEIR DECISION BASED ON THE INFORMATION THEY GOT. THE NEXT THING I HAVE IS I WOULD ASK FOR A COPY THAT I SIGNED THAT WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THAT SAID I COULD NOT OPT BACK IN TO THE INSURANCE. THE LAST THING I WANT TO KNOW WAS A COPY OF A POLICY THAT SHOWS -- THIS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO AN EMPLOYEE OR RETIREE PASSES AWAY, THEIR SPOUSE IS COVERED AND HOW THEY ARE COVERED BY THE INSURANCE. THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS I WAS AT A MEETING IN ORLANDO AND I TALKED TO SOME FIRE DEPARTMENTS, BECAUSE IT'S A FIRE CHIEFS CONFERENCE. I JUST ASKED A FEW QUESTIONS AND A FEW OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS OPTED OUT OF THE COUNTY INSURANCE AND IT CAUSED A BURDEN ON THE COUNTY . I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE THAT THEY HAVE THAT OPTION . THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HOPE SOMEBODY WILL GET BACK WITH ME. 
          >> THANK YOU. NEXT IS KATHLEEN WALLS. 
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          >> THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. I'M FROM MIDDLEBURG, FLORIDA. I WANT TO SPEAK -- CLAY COUNTY PARKS AT NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN AND CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. I WANT TO ANSWER SOME OF THE OBJECTIONS PEOPLE HAVE TO FEEDING CATS IN THE PARK. THEY KILL NATIVE BIRDS. MAYBE A FEW, BUT NOT AS MANY AS EAGLES DO AND NOBODY HAS A PROBLEM WITH THAT. IF THEY WERE FED, FATCATS ARE SLOWER AND LESS GOOD AT HUNTING THAN SKINNY CATS. THE OTHER IS THAT THEY MAKE A MESS. THE CATS DON'T MAKE A MESS, BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE MISTAKENLY FEED THEM PAPER PLATES AND TRASH, WHICH CAN BE HANDLED BY BANNING JUST THAT PART AND HAVING A SPECIAL PLACE TO FEED THE CATS. THEY REPRODUCE AND SPREAD DISEASE. THERE IS A BUNCH OF US IN THE NEUTER RELEASE PROGRAMS WHERE WE TRAP NEUTER , RELEASE THE CATS AND A LOT OF THE ONES ARE ADOPTABLE AND THEY ARE VACCINATED. THESE CATS HAVE BEEN NEUTERED AND AT LEAST VACCINATED. I DON'T LIKE TO BOTHER THE OBJECTION THAT SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY ATTACK PEOPLE, WHICH IS UTTERLY STUPID. FERAL CATS ARE VERY MUCH AFRAID OF PEOPLE AND THEY WON'T EVEN LET PEOPLE WHO FEED THEM TOUCH THEM. WE'VE GONE YEARS WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO TOUCH THE CATS WE FEED SOMETIMES. THE REASON IN FAVOR OF FEEDING THEM AND THE MOST IMPORTANT REASON IS THAT FORBIDDING THEM IS ANIMAL CRUELTY AND THAT THE CRIME . IF SOMEONE DOESN'T FEED THEM, THESE CATS WHO HAVE BEEN DUMPED THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN BY THOUGHTLESS PEOPLE WHO CARE NOTHING ABOUT THEM AND ARE LEFT ON THEIR OWN TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES. THEY ARE DEPENDING ON PEOPLE TO FEED THEM, SO IF THEY ARE NOT FED, THEY WILL DIE OF STARVATION OR BE TRAPPED AND KILLED BY ANIMAL CONTROL. 
          INSTEAD OF CHARGING PEOPLE WHO FEED THEM WITH A CRIME, WE SHOULD CHARGE THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T FEED THEM AND FORBID THEM TO BE FED. VERY OFTEN, MOST OF THE TIME THESE CATS ARE PREGNANT OR FEMALES . FEMALE PREGNANT CATS OR KITTENS AND THEY ARE LESS ABLE TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES . THE USUAL PREY IS RATS , SNAKES, RODENTS AND NOT WORDS . THE SOLUTION WOULD BE THAT IF THE COUNTY PROVIDED A SPECIAL AREA FOR FEEDING, IT COULD EVEN BE AN ATTRACTION , LIKE CAT CAFES IN CITRUS COUNTY. IF THE COUNTY COULD AFFORD TO DO IT, IT COULD BE LITTLE SHELTERS AND PEOPLE CAN COME TO SEE THEM. A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, WE BRING OUR KIDS TO FEED THE CATS THANKSGIVING AND CHRISTMAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THE OTHER SOLUTION WOULD BE PROSECUTING PEOPLE WHO GO OFF AND ABANDON CATS, MOVE OUT OF THEIR HOME AND LEAVE THEM . THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. NEXT, WE HAVE CHAD. 
          >> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS CHAD, LIFELONG RESIDENT OF CLAY COUNTY AND I'M THE PASTOR OF BAPTIST CHURCH IN LAKE ASBURY. NOT JUST OUR HUNDREDS OF CHURCH MEMBERS, BUT ALSO THE COUNTLESS FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO RELY ON RUSSELL BAPTIST AS A PLACE OF WORSHIP, HOPE AND CONNECTION. 
          SINCE 1916 , RUSSELL BAPTIST HAS BEEN A CORNERSTONE OF THE COMMUNITY AND MUCH OF THE HISTORY IS SERVED THROUGH WORSHIP SERVICES OUTREACH MINISTRIES , FOOD TRUCKS , FIREWORKS AND TRANQUIL RETREATS, WHICH BROUGHT PEOPLE TO OUR CAMPUS. PEOPLE APPROACHED US ABOUT ACQUIRING A PIECE OF PROPERTY THEY NEEDED FOR THIS PROJECT. DURING THOSE DISCUSSIONS, WE DISCOVERED THAT THE PLAN ALREADY ADOPTED WOULD CUT OFF ACCESS TO BOTH DRIVEWAYS FROM WESTBOUND TRAFFIC. THIS MEANT NO ONE COMING FROM 209 OR FROM THE EAST WOULD BE ABLE TO TURN INTO OUR PARKING LOTS. NATURALLY, WE WERE DEEPLY CONCERNED AS THIS WOULD GREATLY LIMIT OUR ACCESS TO FACILITIES AND CREATE MAJOR SAFETY ISSUES . FOR THOSE ATTEMPTING TO USE THE EASTERN ENTRANCE. IT SERVES OUR LARGEST PARKING LOT FELLOWSHIP HALL AND SPORTS FIELDS. WE REQUEST OPENINGS OF BOTH ENTRANCES, BUT WE ARE TOLD THAT A TURN LANE AT THE EASTERN ENTRANCE WAS NOT POSSIBLE DUE TO ITS PROXIMITY OF THE SUBDIVISION AND AN OPENING WITHOUT A TURN LINK CANNOT BE ALLOWED AND AFTER MONTHS OF NEGOTIATIONS, WE WERE ADVISED THAT IF WE DID NOT ACCEPT THE COUNTY'S TERMS, THEY WOULD TAKE THE LAND BY DOMAIN LEAVING US WITH NO 
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OPENINGS AT ALL. FEELING LIKE WE HAD NO CHOICE, WE RELUCTANTLY SIGNED THE AGREEMENT . AT THE TIME, WE THOUGHT THIS WAS THE BEST OPTION WE HAD, BUT WE FEEL IT WAS UNDER DURESS . WE ARE THANKFUL TO HAVE THE WEST ENTRANCE REMAIN OPEN , BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT EVEN WITH OUR BEST EFFORTS, IT WILL CREATE A MORE DANGEROUS SITUATION FOR THE PUBLIC. WHILE THE COUNTY FEELS THEY GO ABOVE AND BEYOND, THE REALITY IS THAT WE ARE FACING A SIGNIFICANT LOSS THAT COULD HAVE LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES FOR OUR ABILITY TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY. AFTER A YEAR OF WATCHING OUR GROWTH AND OBSERVING HOW THE PROJECT HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED AND REALIZING THE LONG TERM IMPACT THIS WILL HAVE, WE ARE BRINGING THIS ISSUE THE WORD WITH HOPE THAT IT'S NOT TOO LATE FOR A BETTER SOLUTION. I KNOW SOME OF YOU MAY WONDER WHY WE ARE BRINGING THIS FORWARD AT THIS LATE STAGE IN THE PROJECT. HONESTLY, FOR THIS PAST YEAR, WE THOUGHT OUR FATE WAS SEALED AND THAT WE HAD NO CHOICE, BUT ACCEPT THE PLAN AS IT STOOD AND TO BEGIN FIGURING OUT HOW TO MINIMIZE DAMAGE . ABOUT ONE MONTH AGO, WE LEARNED THAT CHANGES WERE BEING CONSIDERED FOR OTHER 
          SECTION. >> YOU CAN FINISH. 
          >> NOT ONLY IS IT BENEFICIAL TO US, BUT ALSO THAT THE COUNTY WAS STILL OPEN TO MAKING IMPROVEMENTS. WE NOW KNOW THAT WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS NOT ONLY POSSIBLE, BUT REASONABLE. 
          THAT IS BRINGING THE ISSUE FORWARD TO YOU NOW. OUR LAST OPPORTUNITY TO ADVOCATE FOR A SOLUTION BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. 
          I ALSO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT WHILE WE HAVE AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT WITH CROSS CREEK NEAR THE BACK OF OUR PROPERTY, IT WAS INTENDED ONLY FOR EMERGENCY OR OVERFLOW USE DURING LARGE EVENTS. IT WAS NEVER MEANT TO REPLACE THE EASTERN ENTRANCEOR TO SERVE AS A REGULAR ACCESS FOR SUNDAY WORSHIP ON A REGULAR 
          BASIS. >> ARE YOU ALMOST THROUGH? 
          >> A COUPLE MORE PARAGRAPHS AND SOMEONE BEHIND ME THAT'S 
          PREPARED. >> WRAP IT UP. THAT WOULD BE 
          GOOD. >> HE CAN JUST FINISH READING. 
          >> COME ON UP. SORRY, WE JUST HAVE TO BE A LITTLE BIT RESPECTFUL. IF I GAVE IT TO YOU, I HAVE TO GIVE IT TO 
          EVERYBODY. >> MY NAME IS JAMES AND I'M FROM KEYSTONE HEIGHTS . THE MADAME CHAIRWOMAN AND COMMISSIONERS, JUST TO CONTINUE FROM PASTOR CHAD STATEMENTS HERE , SOME MAY ARGUE THAT RUSSELL BAPTIST IS ANOTHER BUSINESS AND SHOULD ADAPT ACCORDINGLY. WE ARE NOT A BUSINESS. WE ARE A CHURCH WHOSE MISSION IS TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND NOT MAKE PROFIT. EVENTS LIKE TRUNK WHICH WOULD COST US THOUSANDS AND WE DON'T CHARGE A SINGLE PERSON TO ATTEND. OUR PURPOSE IS TO SHARE WITH THIS COMMUNITY. THAT IST - DEPENDS ON SAFE AND EFFICIENT ACCESS TO OUR PROPERTY. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, THE EASTERN ENTRANCE HAS OPERATED SAFELY ALONG THE SUBDIVISION WITHOUT A SINGLE ACCIDENT OR DRAINAGE ISSUE EVEN THROUGH HURRICANES AND HEAVY RAIN. THIS SHOWS THAT THE ENTRANCE CAN COEXIST WITH PROPER ENGINEERING SOLUTIONS. A SIMPLE CURB OPENING WITH THE DRAIN EXITS JUST A QUARTER-MILE DOWN THE ROAD AND ALLOWS US TO RETAIN THIS VITAL ACCESS POINT WITHOUT CREATING ANY SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES. WE AS MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH ARE URGING YOU TO CONSIDER THE LONG-TERM IMPACT OF THESE DECISIONS NOT JUST ON OUR CHURCH, BUT FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES WHO DEPEND ON US. THE IMPACT TO THE MONSTER THE KIDS WITH ELDERLY AND HANDICAPPED THAT WILL NOW NEED TO MAKE RISKY U-TURNS ON WEEKLY AND SOMETIMES MULTI-WEEKLY BASIS JUST TO COME TO CHURCH OR OTHER EVENT . THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THAT THE COMMISSIONERS VALUE ACCESSIBILITY , SAFETY AND ROLE OF ORGANIZATIONS AND SERVING AS HUBS IN THE COMMUNITY. I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE BY SAYING THAT WE ARE PETITIONING THE LORD FOR THIS AND WE ARE PETITIONING YOU TO PLEASE HELP US KEEP ACCESS TO OUR PROPERTY, SO WE CAN SAFELY SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND FULFILL THE MISSION THAT CHRIST HAS CALLED US TO. THE LORD HAS BLESSED OUR CHURCH TO BE A BEACON OF HOPE AND SERVE IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR 109 YEARS . 
          WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT LEGACY WITHOUT ANY UNNECESSARY BARRIERS AND RISK TO THE COMMUNITY. I PRAY THAT GOD WILL GIVE YOU WISDOM AS YOU CONSIDER THIS APPEAL AND WE WOULD LIKE 
          TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. JAMIE? 
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          >> GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE COMMISSIONERS. IT'S HARD TO SAY HELLO AND THREE MINUTES. I WANT TO GET TO ALL THE BULLET POINTS THAT WE WANT TO COVER TODAY. I HAVE BEEN VERY BLESSED TO SERVE CLAY COUNTY FOR 42 YEARS AND GOVERNMENT. 12 IS THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND IS AN ENGINEER ASSISTANT WITH THE ENGINEER AND YORK COUNTY. I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT TO WHAT HAS GONE ON FOR THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS . I HAVE SERVED IN THE ROLE AS A MEMBER AT RUSSELL BAPTIST CHURCH FOR 50 YEARS. MY WIFE AND I MARRIED IN 1975, WHICH WAS HER HOME CHURCH, SO I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES. WHAT'S IMPORTANT TODAY IS THAT YOU REALIZE AND VISUALIZE THAT IF YOU HAD NOT BEEN OUT TO THAT SITE , WE ARE ON 30 ACRES WITH A LOT OF ROAD FRONTAGE AND ACTIVITIES . AS MY SON CHAD SAID, THERE IS A LOT OF COMMUNITY CIVIC ORGANIZATIONAL THINGS AND WE DO TRAINING WITH ALL DIFFERENT FACETS OF GOVERNMENT ON THE PROPERTY. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND VITAL THAT WE HAVE TWO ACCESS IS . WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ELDERLY . IT WILL BE VERY TOUGH FOR THEM TO GO DOWN, GO OUT AND MAKE A U-TURN TO GO BACK TO THEIR HOMES OR COME IN EAST, MAKE A U-TURN AND COME BACK INTO OUR DRIVEWAY. LET ME COVER SOME OTHER THINGS. OUR CHURCH IS VERY HISTORIC. IT STARTED IN 1916 AND I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE IN 109 YEARS, BUT THE CHURCH HAS BEEN LOCATED THERE FOR 109 YEARS THAT WE SERVE THE COUNTY AND COMMUNITY AS ONE OF THE MOST HISTORIC CHURCHES IN THE AREA. WHEN OUR CHURCH WAS FOUNDED , NO ONE ENVISIONED THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD COME FROM RECENT DECADES. 
          OUR HISTORIC CEMETERY DATES BACK TO THE CHURCH'S FOUNDING AND SOME OF OUR BUILDING BUILT IN THE 50S AND 60S REMAINED AT THE HEART OF OUR PROPERTY. OVER THE YEARS AS OUR MINISTERS GEW, WE HAVE HAD TO WORK WITH WHAT WE HAD, PIECING THINGS TOGETHER , TO ACCOMMODATE PARKING ACCESS AND EXPANDED OUTREACH. WE MADE THE MOST OF THE SPACE THE LORD HAS BLESSED US WITH AND IN PARKING WITH BUILDING FACILITIES TO HOST EVENTS THAT I TALKED ABOUT. NOW, THE PLANE CHANGES TO SEVERELY LIMITING OUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE GROWING AND SERVING OUR COMMUNITY POSING THE EASTERN ENTRANCE, PRIMARY ACCESS TO THE PARKING LOT, LARGEST PARKING AREA THOMAS FELLOWSHIP HALL AND SPORTS FIELD WILL CREATE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES WELL WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO ADAPT TO THESE, WE CANNOT DENY THAT THEY WILL PLACE BURDENS ON THE PROPERTY. LIMITING SAFE ACCESS AND HINDERING OUR ABILITY TO GROW . OUR CHURCH HAS WORKED HARD TO ACCOMMODATE THE COUNTIES MADE AND GIVING A PROPORTION OF OUR PROPERTY TO HELP . I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AS A HISTORIC CHURCH, WE HAVE BEEN HERE LONG BEFORE THESE ROADS WERE EVER CONCEIVED. WE HAVE BEEN THERE LONGER THAN ANY SUBDIVISION WAS CONCEIVED. WE WERE THERE WHEN THERE WERE A HANDFUL OF FIVE, SIX OR SEVEN HOMES ON THE ENTIRE ROAD AND THE CHURCH WAS THE ONLY OTHER STRUCTURE THERE. I KNOW WE ARE OUT OF TIME , BUT WE BELIEVE THERE ARE REASONABLE TACTICAL SOLUTIONS THAT CAN ADDRESS THE COUNTIES CONCERNS WHILE PRESERVING THIS VITAL ACCESS POINT. FOR EXAMPLE , CURB OPENING WITH DRAINAGE. A SIMPLE OPENING WITH PROPER DRAINAGE LIKE THE ONE WOULD ADDRESS CONCERNS ABOUT RUNOFF WHILE MAINTAINING ACCESS. STORMWATER ADJUSTMENTS AND TYING IT INTO EXISTING STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE WERE RUNOFFS WITH DRASTIC CHANGES. 
          RE-EVALUATING THE DESIGN, ELIMINATING MEDIANS IN THIS SECTION THAT CAN ENHANCE ACCESSIBILITY WHILE STAYING CONSISTENT WITH THE PROJECT SCHOOL. I KNOW I'M OUT OF TIME. THERE'S TWO MORE PARAGRAPHS HERE THAT REALLY TALK ABOUT OUR HEART AND WE ARE ASKING NOTHING TODAY THAT IS NOT VITAL FOR THE CHURCH , SAFETY AND WELFARE OF PEOPLE . 
          I WOULD LIKE MEMBERS OF RUSSELL BAPTIST RAISE YOUR HANDS TODAY 
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THAT HAVE COME TO SUPPORT US. THIS IS JUST A HANDFUL OF OUR PEOPLE , WORKERS THAT HAVE COME TO SUPPORT US. NOT JUST ABOUT OUR CHURCH PEOPLE AS PASTOR CHAD SAID, BUT WE ARE ABOUT SERVING OUR COMMUNITY. WE ARE A LARGE ORGANIZATION THAT SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED TO ADOPT SOME PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE AND ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH THE COUNTIES DO. AFTER THE FACT AND AFTER THEY ARE GONE , THERE IS NO HOPE FOR US. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND WHAT YOU DO IN THE COUNTY. WE APPRECIATE 
          YOU ALL. >> WE REALLY HAVE TO KEEP PUBLIC, TO OUR TIME LIMIT, OTHERWISE OTHER PEOPLE ASK FOR IT AND I HAVE TO GIVE THEM MORE. PHIL? 
          >> I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT MAC FOR A LITTLE OVER 20 YEARS AND I HAVE SEEN IT GROW AND IT CONTINUES TO GROW . I'M REALLY CONCERNED. I'M 87 YEARS OLD. THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS IN OUR CHURCH CAN DO THAT. WE WILL RELEASE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE OUT AT ONE TIME MAKING U-TURNS AND THEY GO AND WILL BE EXTREMELY HARD FOR SOME OF OUR PEOPLE. I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS WILL DO THE BEST YOU CAN TO WORK OUT THE SITUATION WHERE EVERYBODY IS A WIN-WIN SITUATION . I KNOW IT'S A HARD JOB AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE HARD DECISIONS, BUT WE ARE JUST DEPENDING ON YOU TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR 
          YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU, SIR. I THINK YOU MADE UP FOR SOME OF THE EXTRAS, SO WE ARE GOOD. COREY . COREY, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. DID I GET YOUR LAST NAME RIGHT? OKAY. 
          >> MY NAME IS COREY CHENEY AND I'M A MEMBER OF CLAY COUNTY. 
          I'M A MEMBER OF CROSS CREEK AND RUSSELL BAPTIST AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF OF THEM, AS WELL. THE CONCERNS THEY RAISE ARE VERY VALID. IT'S A TWO LANE ROAD WITH NO ACCESS TO GET THROUGH THAT FOR US TO LEAD DOES NOT SEEM TO BE THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO HANDLE THIS. WE WOULD BE RELIANT ON POSSIBLE ESCORTS TO MAKE SURE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE BEING RELEASED ON SUNDAYS WOULD BE SAFELY TRAVERSING THE AREA , WHICH FINANCIALLY IS NOT THE BEST OPTION FOR THE COUNTY . 
          THEY HAVE RAISED A SAFETY CONCERN, ESPECIALLY WITH THE DRIVERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE OF NEGOTIATING U-TURNS AND THINGS CAUSED . AS WE GROW, WE HAVE 15,000 HOMES OUT THERE. 
          WE HAVE A COUPLE HUNDRED PEOPLE NOW , BUT THAT WILL TURN INTO 1000 PEOPLE GETTING OUT ON SUNDAY EVENTUALLY WITH THIS CONSTRUCTION GOING ON AROUND US AND THE PROBLEM WILL ONLY BE EXACERBATED AS IS. I STAND WITH HOPE THAT WE FIND A SOLUTION AND A SIMPLE PASS THROUGH THE MEETING OR SOMETHING TO ENSURE SAFETY FOR ALL OF OUR MEMBERS AND RESIDENTS OUT THERE AND HELP KEEP TRAFFICDOWN. WE HAVE DEALT WITH TRAFFIC AND GROWING PAINS IN THE AREA . I'M SURE EVERYONE IS AWARE, SO A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF FROM SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC CHAOS. WOULD LIKE TO SEE A WOMAN OUT THERE FOR RESIDENTS . 
          >> NEXT, WE HAVE JOYCE . I DON'T THINK I SAID THAT RIGHT, BUT I COULDN'T REREAD IT. I APOLOGIZE. YOU CAN TELL ME HOW 
          TO ANNOUNCE IT. >> MY NAME IS JOYCE. FROM ORANGE PARK AND I'M JUST HERE TO ASK FOR CONSIDERATION AT SOME POINT TO REVOKE OR REMOVE THE ORDINANCE 15.3 E- THREE , WHICH PROHIBITS PEOPLE FROM FEEDING FERAL CATS OR STRAY CATS IN PUBLIC PARKS . I WANT TO THANK KATHLEEN , BECAUSE A FRIEND OF MINE SHOWED ME HER ARTICLE AND LETTERS TO THE EDITOR AND I HAD NO IDEA THAT WE HAD THAT KIND OF LAW PROHIBITING FEEDING THE CATS . THE REASON I'M CONCERNED IS 
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THAT WITH EVERYTHING SHE SAID INCLUDING IF WE DON'T FEED THEM, SOMETHING BAD WILL HAPPEN TO THEM. THEY WILL HUNT ANIMALS TOXIC AND FOOD TOXIC TO THEM AND THEY MOST LIKELY WILL DIE FROM IT. THEY ARE NOT REALLY A NUISANCE. WHAT PEOPLE SAY ABOUT HOW THEY ARE DIRTY AND THIS AND THAT ARE THE PEOPLE WHO FEED THEM. EMPTY CANS OF FOOD AND PROHIBITING PEOPLE FROM FEEDING THEM IF WE HAD SIGNS THAT SAID TO TAKE AWAY ANY TRASH ASSOCIATED WITH FEEDING THE CATS, THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER WAY TO DEAL WITH THE TRASH, BUT IT'S PEOPLE WHO ARE LEAVING THE TRASH THERE. I RAN A CAT SHELTER FOR MANY YEARS AND KATHLEEN IS RIGHT. CATS DON'T ATTACK AND USUALLY RUN AWAY. 
          THE STRAYS THAT WANT ATTENTION WILL WALK UP TO SOMETHING AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN IN ALL MY YEARS ATTACK ATTACKING SOMEONE. 
          ASKING FOR CONSIDERATION AND REVOKING OR REMOVING . THEY ARE VERY CALMING ANIMALS . I HAVE SEEN CATS IN HOMES IN THE ELDERLY BEING SO HAPPY AND THEY BROUGHT A LOT OF JOY AND PEACE TO THESE PEOPLE. SOMEBODY'S GOT TO SPEAK UP FOR THEIR SAKE. 
          AS FAR AS REVOKING THE LAW AND ALLOWING PEOPLE TO FEED THEM OR AT LEAST GIVE THEM TRAPS TO TRAP THEM , BECAUSE MANY TIMES THEY DO TRAP THE CATS. THEY BRING THEM TO THE VET AND GET THEM FIXED AND VACCINATED, THEN BRING THEM BACK WHERE THEY ARE USED TO BEING. THERE IS NO REASON WHY PEOPLE CAN'T SHARE THE PARK WITH CATS, BECAUSE AS FAR AS ATTRACTING RODENTS THAT PEOPLE BEAT THEM, THEY USUALLY EAT EVERYTHING RIGHT AWAY IT DOESN'T GIVE MUCH TIME FOR RACCOONS AND OTHER ANIMALS TO COME EAT . I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING . THIS HAS BEEN A NICE EXPERIENCE FOR ME. I HOPE YOU DO CONSIDER REVOKING 
          THAT ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. >> NEXT, HELENA . 
          >> MY NAME IS HELENA AND MY ADDRESS IS ON FILE. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE DECISIONS AND THINGS YOU DO. 
          I'M HERE SPEAKING ON TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. ONE, OBVIOUSLY, THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION OUT AND RUSSELL BAPTIST CHURCH AND AS A REALTOR, I HAVE BEEN IN. THAT COMMUNITY DOES NOT HAVE A TURN AND I HAD TO MAKE U-TURNS TO LEAVE OUT AND GO BACK TO ROLLING HILLS . THERE HAVE BEEN TWO DIFFERENT INSTANCES WHERE THE U-TURN I DID NOT CUT SHARP ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO DO THE RETURN AND I HAD TO TRAVERSE AND REDO. THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE DOING THE SAME THING AND THE SAME THING GOING INTO THE ROLLING HILLS COMMUNITY TO GET THERE. I SEE WHAT THAT IS LIKE FOR ME PERSONALLY AND I HAVE WENT FROM A VAN TO AN EQUINOX SUV AND I STILL HAVE TO DO THAT. THE TRUCKS WILL BE A NIGHTMARE FOR THE BIGGER TRUCKS. WHEN YOU ARE CONSIDERING THIS, DRIVE THE COMMUNITY AND DO THE U-TURN AND SEE WHAT IT'S LIKE FOR THAT AREA AND YOU WILL SEE A SMALL PICTURE OF WHAT WE MAY HAVE TO ENDURE OVER THERE AT THE CHURCH. THE SECOND THING I WANT TO SPEAK ON IS THE COMMUNITY WHERE I LIVE AT. WE HAVE A POSSIBLE SITUATION WE ARE FACING AS A BOARD MEMBER. AS A BOARD MEMBER, THE DEVELOPER STILL OWNS ONE OF THE PARKS IN THE BACK SECTION WHERE THE LGI LOW GAP WELCOME DEVELOPMENT HAS AND IT HAS HAD ISSUES. WE HAVE HAD MANY COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS WHO LIVE ON THE POND AND I HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE COUNTY AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE ARE RUNNING INTO THIS ISSUE , BUT THE DEVELOPER IS TRYING TO GET TO OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING TO POSSIBLY TURN THE POND OVER TO US , BUT I PERSONALLY AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE LOOKING AND COMPLAINING THINK THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THE POND. BEFORE THIS TURNS OVER AND THE FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY IS LEFT, WE MAY NEED YOUR HELP AND ASSISTANCE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO INSPECT THIS POND , SEE IF THERE IS ANY INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES WITH DRAINAGE AND WHAT'S CAUSED IN THE EROSION JUST TO HELP US. OBVIOUSLY, WE APPRECIATE OUR 
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DEVELOPERS AND GOOD DEVELOPERS. THE ONE IN OUR COMMUNITY HAS DROPPED THE BALL AND THAT HAS BEEN MY STANCE IS THE BEGINNING. I MAY NEED YOUR HELP TO HELP US SOLVE THIS ONE BEFORE THE FINANCIAL IMPACT COMES TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING OU DO AND I WIL  WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF TO HELP RESOLVE THIS. 
          >> THE LAST I HAVE IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, YOU CAN FILL OUT A CARD, BUT THE LAST IS BRIAN CLARK. 
          >> I AM BRIAN CLARK. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS WE MISSED WITH THE RUSSELL BAPTIST CHURCH SITUATION. THERE ARE USUALLY 400 PEOPLE FOR SOCCER AND FLAG FOOTBALL THAT WE HAVE. THAT ADDS A HUGE BURDEN ON THE ROAD ITSELF. THERE ARE ALSO OTHER TEAMS AND FACILITIES THAT USE OUR GYMS AND SPORTS FIELDS. 
          ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW , BUT THERE'S A VOTING PRECINCT AT THE CHURCH. EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY WILL HAVE TO COME AND MAKE A U-TURN. I THINK IT'S VERY DANGEROUS. 
          THE ROADS ARE PROBABLY AS DANGEROUS AS ANY OTHER ONES , SO WE ASK AGAIN TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. THANK YOU. 
          >> ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE. I'M SURE OTHERS HAVE TAKEN NOTES DURING PUBLIC COMMENT , SO WE HAVE TAKEN SOME HOMEWORK BACK WITH US. NEXT IS 
          [CONSENT AGENDA]
OUR CONSENT AGENDA. ITEMS FIVE THROUGH 20. IS THERE ANY ITEM ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO PULL FOR DISCUSSION? 
          >> ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW THAT I NEED THE ITEMS PULLED , BUT CLARIFICATION BEFORE WE VOTE. IF I MAY, 19 AND 20 REQUEST AN ALTERNATIVE PROCEDURE TO NOTICE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS . WOULD YOU MIND MAKING CLEAR WHAT THE ALTERNATIVE NOTICE LOOKS LIKE FOR THE PROCEDURE? 
          >> REAL ESTATE CQUISITION. THE PROCEDURE IN QUESTION IN 19 AND 20 IS JUST THE INITIAL PERMISSION TO INITIATE WITH THE OWNER FOR THE POTENTIAL TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY. NOTHING IS VOTED ON FOR US TO ACTUALLY PURCHASE, BUT THIS IS THE PERMISSION FOR ME TO GO AND SPEAK WITH THEM AND WORK WITH THEM TO SEE IF THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR US TO REACH AN 
          AGREEMENT. >> THE ALTERNATIVE PART OF IT IS THAT IF WE FOLLOW THE STATUTE, THERE ARE CERTAIN CONFIDENTIALITY PROVISIONS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE AND KEEP CERTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND HAVE TO NOTICE THE ACTUAL PUBLIC HEARING FOR APPROVAL OF THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT . WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE 30 DAYS NOTICE UNDER THE ALTERNATIVE PROCEDURE , WE LOSE THE CONFIDENTIALITY OF NEGOTIATIONS AND IS A PUBLIC HEARING IS LIMITED TO FIVE DAYS. 
          >> IF I'M HEARING YOU CORRECTLY , THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT BECOME -- ARE NOT DISCLOSED TO THE PUBLIC AND THE PERIOD THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 30 DAYS IS NOW FIVE? 
          >> THE TIME PERIOD HAS SHRUNK, BUT THE CONFIDENTIALITY IS REMOVED. FOR INSTANCE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO OBTAIN APPRAISALS AND DO RESEARCH AND KEEP THAT CONFIDENTIAL IF WE OPERATE UNDER THE STATUTORY FRAMEWORK . WITH OUR ALTERNATIVE PROCEDURE, WE GIVE IT UP AND MOVE THE PROCESS ALONG AND IN ORDER TO 
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HAVE THE FIVE DAY NOTICE FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          >> OKAY. I THINK THAT'S CLEAR. THANK YOU. 
          >> WANT TO PULL THOSE FOR DISCUSSION OR ARE YOU OKAY? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO PULL FOR DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND GRADE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION 
          [27.  RFP No. 24/25-001, Tourism Sports Marketing & Sales Presentations (K. Smith)]
CARRIES 5-0. WE ALMOST GOT THERE , BUT WE ARE NOT. IT IS 5:02, SO I HAVE TO GO TO OUR 5:00 TIME CERTAIN. OUR FIRST ITEM IS ITEM 27, RFP 24/25-001 , TOURISM SPORTS MARKETING AND 
          SALES PRESENTATIONS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS THE RFP THAT WE ISSUED FOR THE TOURISM SPORTS MARKETING AND SALES . WE RECEIVED FOUR PROPOSALS AND WE BROUGHT THE SCORING STAFF EVALUATION TO THE BOARD ON DECEMBER 10TH. THE DECISION WAS MADE TO BRING THE TOP THREE COMPANIES BACK IN TO DO PRESENTATIONS . A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE SCOPE IS TO QUALIFY COMPANY TO ASSIST TOURISM DEPARTMENT WITH SPORTS MARKETING TO REPRESENT THE COUNTY AT THINGS LIKE TRADE SHOWS TO RESEARCH EVENT OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING TO THE COUNTY. OUR CURRENT AGREEMENT HAD EXPIRED AFTER TWO RENEWALS, SO PER POLICY, WE HAD TO ISSUE A NEW RFP. WITH THAT, TODAY, WE HAVE THREE COMPANIES HERE AND WE ARE GOING TO USE OUR TYPICAL PROCEDURE OF HAVING THE COMPANIES PRESENT IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER. WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THREE COMPANIES . FEEL FREE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS. AFTER ALL THREE PRESENT , THE COMMISSION WILL SCORE ONE TO THREE AND I CAN GO OVER THAT, BUT YOU SHOULD HAVE A SCORING SHEET IN FRONT OF YOU. AFTER PRESENTATIONS, WE DO ANOTHER OF HOW IT WILL GO AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE AT THIS TIME. WE CAN ASK THE FIRST COMPANY TO COME UP, WHICH IS AIRSTREAM VENTURES. 
          >> HELLO. I'M WITH AIRSTREAM VENTURES. WE HAVE BEEN VERY PROUD TO WORK WITH CLAY COUNTY OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS WITH A CONTRACT AS THE INCUMBENT. I DO WANT TO SAY THAT IN THE SCORING AND THE RFP PROCESS , THE LAST FEW DAYS WE WERE PUTTING IT TOGETHER , WE DID MISS A COUPLE OF THINGS. MY DAD WAS SICK IN THE HOSPITAL , SO I WAS FOCUSED THERE. SOME OF THE QUESTIONS IN THERE, WE COULDN'T HAVE ANSWERED THEM BETTER. I JUST WANT TO SAY UP FRONT AND THEN DRIVING HERE ON THE THING AND I TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY , BUT WE HAVE BEEN IN CLAY COUNTY FOR FOUR YEARS . WE GOT THE CONTRACT COMING OUT OF COVID. 
          CLAY COUNTY DIDN'T HAVE A SPORTS TOURISM PROGRAM. I WILL SAY AND BRAG A LITTLE BIT THAT KIMBERLY HAD BEEN HIRED TO DO TOURISM. SHE'S A ROCK STAR FOR MOST KNOW. SHE DOES AN AMAZING JOB WITH TOURISM AND NOW HAS A FULL TEAM , SO THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE SEEING THEM DO IS INCREDIBLE AND AN ENHANCEMENT TO SPORTS TOURISM . WE GOT THE CONTRACT COMING OUT OF COVID GO DOWN. BASICALLY, A LOT OF PEOPLE WEREN'T DOING ANYTHING AT THE CONFERENCES WEREN'T HAPPENING. WE WERE CALLING ON PEOPLE AND I HAVE BEEN IN SPORTS FOR 30 YEARS AND THIS HAS BEEN MY INDUSTRY AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE. WE WERE CALLING ON RELATIONSHIPS AND I THINK WE KNOW THAT UP UNTIL ABOUT A YEAR AGO, WE HAD LIMITED SPORTS FACILITIES AND HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE CAN HOST MAJOR TOURNAMENTS, SO WE HAD TO BE VERY CREATIVE WITH THE EVENTS THAT WE CAN BRING. 
          FOR THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS, YOU ARE LEARNING EACH OTHER AND ARE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT GRANT PROGRAMS AND DIFFERENT THINGS , BUT YET WE ARE STILL BRINGING EVENTS TO THE TABLE COMING OUT OF COVID. IF YOU LOOK AT OUR TEAM, WE HAVE SIX EMPLOYEES. MOST OF OUR STAFF IS HERE 
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TODAY. EVERY DAY, WE HAVE THREE OF US CALLING ON EVENT PLANNERS TRYING TO GET THEM TO BRING SPORTING EVENTS. WE ALSO HAVE A FULL-TIME MARKETING PERSON AND TWO OPERATIONS PEOPLE. OUR OPERATIONS PEOPLE ARE MEETING AND WORKING TO BRING THAT THERE. WE ARE A FULL-SERVICE HOUSE. WE HAVE FULL SERVICE STAFF. IF YOU LOOK OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, THESE ARE SOME OF THE EVENT PARTNERS. WE WORK WITH A LOT OF THE OLYMPIC GOVERNING BODIES. WE HAD TO BE CREATIVE IN THE DIFFERENT THINGS WE DID. WE BROUGHT THE U.S. CYCLING EVENT AND WE TRY TO BRING THAT BACK, BUT WE COULD MAKE IT ALL WORK. WE BRING U.S. CYCLING WHEN THEY ARE HERE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT WE BROUGHT , THAT OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, WE ARE ABLE TO BRING 36 EVENTS THAT IS THE AVERAGE OF NINE EVENTS A YEAR AND WHEN YOU ARE BRINGING EVENTS, SOME WORK AND SOME DON'T BASED UPON THE DIFFERENT FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE. NINE EVENTS COMING OUT OF COVID AND WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE NEW FACILITY THAT YOU ALL GET APPROVED AND DONE . JUSTIN AND HIS TEAM HAVE BEEN AMAZING . WE ARE REALLY EXCITED NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS GREAT FACILITY TO DO. 
          THEY CONTINUALLY COME TO CLAY COUNTY, SO WE ARE HAVING THEM YEAR AFTER YEAR. FINALLY, WE ARE LOOKING AT BRINGING MORE EVENTS. WE ARE TALKING TO MORE PEOPLE EVERY DAY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PAY STRUCTURE THAT WE ASK FOR , IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN AWARDED IN THE FIRST CONTRACT. FOUR YEARS AGO, THE ECONOMY WAS DIFFERENT AND HOTEL ROOMS WERE CHEAPER. THAT IS REALLY THE REASON. IT IS AN INFLATION COST IN THE FIRST FOUR YEARS AND WE NEVER ASKED FOR A RAISE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THE ONE THING I WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH IS HOW WE LIVE HERE. WE ARE VERY PROUD OF OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH CLAY COUNTY. 
          WE HAVE DEVELOPED ORGANIC EVENTS. IN ADDITION TO GETTING USA CYCLING OR WHATEVER EVENTS, WE HAVE CREATED THE CLAY COUNTY INVITATIONAL CROSS COUNTRY EVENT. WE HAVE DONE AT THE FIRST YEAR AT THE FAIRGROUNDS AND WE HAD OVER 1000 RUNNERS. 
          WE HAVE CREATED THAT FROM SCRATCH. WE WERE STARTING A GIRLS FLAG WOULD FALL AT THE NEW SPORTS COMPLEX THAT WE ARE HOPING TO HAVE 24 TEAMS. THE GOAL IS TO BUILD THAT TO THE LARGEST FOOTBALL EVENT IN THE STATE. WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE. IN ADDITION TO BRINGING EVENTS, WE ARE CREATING EVENT, BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO BE IN THIS COMMUNITY. WE ALSO RUN A HIGH SCHOOL PROGRAM, SO WE ARE TALKING TO HIGH SCHOOL COACHES, DIRECTORS AND ONE OF YOUR TEAMS AND HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT THAT WE DID. WE HOST MEDIA DAYS AND CLAY COUNTY HIGH SCHOOLS ARE COMING AND ARE PART OF THAT. MY POINT IS THAT WE LOVE BEING IN CLAY COUNTY AND ARE DOING MORE WITH CLAY COUNTY. THAT IS OUR GOAL. IT IS TO LIFT NOT ONLY THROUGH SPORTS TOURISM, BUT ALL OF SPORTS. WE JUST ASK THAT AS THE INCUMBENT HERE , WE HAVE HAD FOUR YEARS AND CREATED A LOT OF MOMENTUM AND PEOPLE NOW KNOW ABOUT CLAY COUNTY THANKS TO A LOT OF THE WORK OF NOT ONLY AIRSTREAM, BUT THE TOURISM TEAM. OUR GOAL IS -- LET US CONTINUE THAT MOMENTUM. MOMENTUM IS A HUGE THING AS WE KNOW. GEORGIA BULLDOGS. IT'S CONTINUE THE MOMENTUM. NOW THAT WE HAVE THE SPORTS FACILITY , WE CAN ACCOMPLISH AMAZING THINGS. 
          THANK YOU. >> I SEE THAT IT TALKS ABOUT GOING TO TRADE SHOWS. HAVE YOU ALREADY BEEN TO TRADE SHOWS IN 
          THE PAST FOUR YEARS? >> WE HAVE. WE GO TO FOUR OR FIVE A YEAR WHERE WE MEET WITH DIFFERENT ENTITIES. FOR A WILD, WE WERE SHOWING SCHEMATICS OF THE NEW SPORTS FACILITY. WE GO TO A LOT OF BIG ONES , THEN WE ARE A MEMBER OF THE FLORIDA SPORTS FOUNDATION, WHICH THEY HAVE CREATED A SUMMIT IN MAY 
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EVERY YEAR. AT THOSE CONVENTIONS, YOU ARE MEETING 
          CLIENTS AND TRY TO SELL THEM. >> I KNOW YOU HAVE HAD SOME OF THE AND OF COURSE OUR WATERS ARE BIG IN CLAY COUNTY , BUT DO YOU PLAN ON FINDING MORE OF THOSE EVENTS? 
          >> WE DO. WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WATER EVENTS , WHETHER IT'S IN THE LAKES OR RIVERS. WE TRY TO BRING A BIG FISHING EVENT HERE, BUT OUR FACILITIES COULDN'T. FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE ENTRY INTO THE WATER , BUT THAT IS CERTAINLY A GOAL. 
          WE TALKED TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT WATER SPORT OUTLETS OR FISHING 
          OUTLETS HERE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          >> I THINK A COUPLE HAVE WORKED WELL. ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, THAT WAS A HUGE SUCCESS. WE HAD OVER 800 RACERS HERE I'M ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. IT WAS A NATIONAL GOVERNING BODY CHAMPIONSHIP . THAT WAS A HUGE ONE. WE HAVE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO. 
          WE HOSTED THE AMERICAN CORN HOLE LEAK FLORIDA STATE CHAMPIONSHIP AND WE HAD ABOUT 400 HOURS THROWING BEANBAGS. 
          WHAT WE DID IS FAIRGROUNDS AND COVERED IT WITH TARPS, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN ARENA TO BE ABLE TO HOST SOMETHING OF THAT SIZE. OUR STAFF WAS LAYING OUT THE TARPS , SO THAT WE CAN CREATE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. THERE ARE PEOPLE FROM 33 DIFFERENT STATES THROWING THOSE BEANBAGS. THOSE ARE SOME EXAMPLES THAT WE FEEL LIKE OUR NATIONAL BRANDS THAT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COME INTO OUR COUNTY. THE BIGGEST LETDOWN . I WOULD SAY THAT ONE IS NOT AN EVENT AND WE HAD THE USA CYCLING COMING BACK AND THEY WANT TO COME HERE. WE COULDN'T MAKE IT HAPPEN FROM A FACILITY AND ALL OF THAT, WHICH WAS DISAPPOINTING . I THINK WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF EVENTS THAT THEY SAID THE NUMBERS WILL BE THIS AND WE TAKE THEM AT THEIR WORD. THEY MIGHT HAVE SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE A 500. WE LIVE AND LEARN FROM THOSE. WE MOVE ON. CORRECT. 
          >> WHAT HAPPENED THERE? >> THAT WAS A GOAL. WE ARE LOOKING FROM A STANDPOINT AND THERE IS A NUMBER ONE SEARCH THING ON OUR WEBSITE. THERE IS A LOT OF BASS AND ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT PLACES AND CAN BRING THESE EVENTS. HE CAN ALSO WORK WITH THE TOURISM TEAM IN CREATING THESE VIDEOS IN HIS REACH AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. I THINK HE OVERSOLD THE CREDENTIALS , AS YOU WILL KNOW. IT QUIETLY WENT AWAY. 
          >> HE DEFINITELY WAS A SALESMAN. OTHER QUESTIONS? 
          >> A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU HOW MUCH STAFF AND INTERSCHOLASTIC ATHLETICS ARE SUCH A FABRIC OF CLAY COUNTY NOT HAVING A SPORTS TEAM OR A COLLEGE TEAM THAT DISSIPATES IN CLAY COUNTY . IT IS REALLY THE FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY. YOU MENTIONED THE FLAG FOOTBALL EVENT ON THE HORIZON. WHAT RELATIONSHIPS DOES YOUR COMPANY HAVE THE HIGH SQUAT THAT ASSOCIATION AND HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS IN GENERAL? 
          >> WE WORK WITH THEM A LOT. WE DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT EVIDENCE. 
          WE DO HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL TOURNAMENTS THAT WE WORK CLOSELY WITH. WE DO A BIG LACROSSE EVENT , AS WELL. WE HAVE A STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH THEIR ENTIRE TEAM. WE MOSTLY WORKED ON THERE ON SANCTIONING OUR EVENTS. IT GOES BACK TO -- YOU ARE RIGHT. HIGH SCHOOL AND SPORTS ARE THE FABRIC OF COMMUNITIES. YOU CAN SEE THAT ON FRIDAY NIGHT AND TONIGHT AT A SOCCER GAME OR BASKETBALL GAME. NOT ONLY DO WE BRING PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE AND STAY IN HOTELS , BUT WE ARE CONSTANTLY DOING HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETIC EVENTS , WHICH INCLUDES HIGH SCHOOLS FROM CLAY COUNTY. AS I SAID, OUR BASKETBALL TEAM WON 
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THAT. THEY WERE THERE TAKING PICTURES OF THAT AND THOSE WERE THE KIND OF EXPERIENCES THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET STUDENT ATHLETES , BUT ALL OF THE STUDENTS COME, BECAUSE WE INVITE THEM AND TALK TO THEIR EPIC DIRECTORS WITH A GREAT RELATIONSHIP OF YOUR REPLACEMENT AND HELP PUT THIS TOGETHER. IN ADDITION TO BRINGING SPORTING EVENTS FROM THE OUTSIDE, WE ALSO WORK ON THE INSIDE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE LIFTING THE STRENGTH OF SPORTS IN CLAY COUNTY. 
          >> THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS HOW THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THING THAT CALL IT A TRIPLE THREAT. HOTELS, RESTAURANTS AND TAX REVENUE, WHICH RELIEVES THE BURDEN OF TAXPAYERS AND PROVIDES QUALITY OF LIFE EVENTS FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE. YOU MENTIONED SOME WEAKNESSES THAT YOU HAVE EXPERIENCED IN THE PAST FOUR YEARS . AS COMMISSIONERS, WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE CLAY COUNTY'S WEAKNESSES GOING FORWARD AND MAYBE HOW AIRSTREAM VENTURES PLANS TO FILL THOSE GAPS . 
          >> I DON'T KNOW IT'S AS MUCH WEAKNESSES AS IT IS CHALLENGES WITH FACILITIES, BUT WE BUILT THIS FACILITY AND IT'S AMAZING. 
          COUNTY MANAGER AND A LOT OF TEAMS PUT IT TOGETHER . THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER SPORTING EVENT. WE GET CALLS FOR INDOOR STUFF, BECAUSE THE CLOSEST ONE IS ORLANDO FROM INDOOR VOLLEYBALL AND BASKETBALL. WE DON'T HAVE THAT TYPE. WE HAVE FAIRGROUNDS, WHICH WE CAN DO CORN HOLE AND THOSE EVENTS , BUT WE CAN'T DO THE LARGE SCOPE OF VOLLEYBALL. HAVING A FACILITY LIKE THAT WOULD BE AMAZING. IN ADDITION FROM A SOFTBALL PERSPECTIVE, IT IS SO BIG IN THE STATE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE TO BE ABLE TO REALLY COMPETE WITH OTHER CITIES . IF I COULD TURN THAT INTO A STRENGTH, WHAT WE HAVE AS A STRENGTH IS THIS NEW FACILITY, BUT PEOPLE THAT THEY LOVE TO WORK WITH. CLAY COUNTY IS AS FRIENDLY AS THEY COME . WHILE YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE BEST FACILITY , YOU HAVE THE BEST PEOPLE THAT HELP US WORK ON THAT. WE REALLY ACCENTUATE THAT. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BRING MORE AND MORE EVENTS AND REPEAT EVENTS, WHICH IS THE BEST . 
          >> OTHER QUESTIONS? NEXT, WE HAVE THE RACONTEURS COMPANY. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT PRONUNCIATION. 
          >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS EVENING. DO I HAVE A CLICKER? YES, I DO. I WILL SKIP AROUND A LITTLE BIT. I SPENT OVER 20 YEARS IN COUNTY GOVERNMENT, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH YOUR STRUCTURES TONIGHT AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE AGENDA THIS EVENING. 
          >> SPORTS INJURY THERE? >> IT IS A FORMER SPORTS INJURY . I THINK WE HAD A FORMER FLORIDA STATE ATHLETE, AS WELL. 
          THIS ALL STEMS FROM GETTING BEAT UP IN THE POOL FOR HOURS AND HOURS. RACONTEURS . I BEGAN IN THE SPORTS TOURISM INDUSTRY. 
          WE ARE A FULL SERVICE AGENCY , WHICH IS OPERATING ON ALL SIDES OF THE FENCE WITH ALL TYPES OF CLIENTS IN VARIOUS SEGMENTS AROUND THE UNITED STATES. WE ARE AN AGENCY THAT IS ALSO A MEDIA OUTLET OWNER, WHICH PROVIDES US WITH A NUMBER OF EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES. THIS IS A SLIDE THAT HAS A NUMBER OF SERVICES. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THOSE LISTED AND WHAT YOU ARE MOSTLY INTERESTED IN IS VISITATION AND ACQUISITION. THE GOAL OF YOUR TOURISM DEPARTMENT IS TO BRING OVERNIGHT VISITORS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE SPENDING MONEY WHILE THEY ARE HERE AND OFTEN. THIS IS OUR LIST OF FLORIDA-BASED CLIENTS. 
          WE HAVE BEEN WITH THEM FOR A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS, WHETHER IT IS A THREE MONTH PROJECT, OR ADVERTISING IN OUR MAGAZINE. HERE IS A LIST OF CLIENTS AROUND THE COUNTRY. 
          COLORADO, VIRGINIA AND ARIZONA, LOUISIANA, PENNSYLVANIA. SPORTS TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES THAT WE WORK WITH IN THE PAST AND ARE 
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CURRENTLY WORKING WITH. NATIONAL AND GLOBAL OFFENSE THAT WE HAVE BEEN HIRED TO HELP OUT WITH . A NUMBER OF CONFERENCES, TRADE SHOWS AND CONVENTIONS . WE DO SPEAK AT THEM ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. WE TAKE THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN MOST AGENCIES WITHIN THE SPORTS TOURISM WORLD. WE LIKE TO DIG IN WITH THE CLIENT AND DETERMINE THEIR STORY , FIND OUT THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE PARTICULAR DESTINATION, PACKAGE THAT TOGETHER AND SHOUT IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS. ONE IS CERTAINLY OUR MAGAZINE AND CONNECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE U.S. WITH THE NATIONAL GOVERNING BODIES. I WILL SKIP AROUND A BIT AND I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION ALREADY, SO I WILL NOT GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE THING, BUT WHAT DOES SEPARATE US A LITTLE BIT IS OUR APPROACH. WITH THAT, THERE ARE TWO THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT THIS EVENING, WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY THAT WE BELIEVE IN THE OLD BUSINESS THAT WE WILL TAKE THREE NICKELS OVER A DIME ANY DAY. YOU HAVE A LIST OF CURRENT CLIENTS AND FOLKS COMING HERE THANKS TO AIRSTREAM VENTURES AND THEIR GREAT WORK. 
          WE HAVE MADE A BUSINESS OF GOING TO THOSE EXISTING CLIENTS AND TURNING ONE PROJECT INTO THREE AND FOUR AND BRINGING THEM BACK YEAR AFTER YEAR. THE OTHER WE WOULD DO IF WE WERE AWARDED THE CONTRACT IS TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR SEASONALITY. THE DESTINATION HOST , WHETHER IT IS THE SPORTS TOURISM OR NOT. 
          IT CAN BE SPRING ARTS FESTIVAL. THEY HAVE FLORIDA FOOTBALL GAMES. WE WORKED WITH THEM AND SHOWCASING THAT THERE ARE SIX OR SEVEN WEEKENDS AND THEY CAN'T GO AFTER ANYTHING, BECAUSE HOTEL ROOMS ARE FILLED. THEY HAVE A SPRING ARTS FESTIVAL, DRAGRACING. YOU GET ON THE ROAD AND RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS ONLY 18 WEEKS A YEAR THAT THEY CAN ACQUIRE NEW BUSINESS. THEY ARE PART OF AROUND 70 EVENTS A YEAR AND MOST OF THEM TAKE PLACE IN NEWBERRY WITH A LOT OF OTHER SUBURBS, IF YOU WILL. SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES IN TOWNS. WHEN IT COMES TO HOTEL ROOMS, THERE IS A LOT OF BUSINESS AT THE UNIVERSITY CREATES, AS WELL, WHICH DOESN'T ALLOW THEM TO HOST ANYMORE. WE WOULD TAKE THE SAME EVENT APPROACH HERE. LOOK AT YOUR SEASONALITY AND FIND THE HOLES IN THE CALENDAR AND WORK WITH CLIENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND NATIONAL GOVERNING BODIES TO DETERMINE WHO MAY BEST FIT. IT'S NOT BRINGING IT HERE, BUT THE RIGHT EVENT FOR THE RIGHT FINANCIAL PACKAGE THAT WILL CREATE THE MOST NUMBER OF OVERNIGHT STAYS AND SPENDING. WE CREATED A POSITIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT ON YOUR COMMUNITY. THESE ARE THE NUMBERS OF SUCCESSES IN 2024 PART OF THE PROCESS. IN ADDITION TO PUSH MAGAZINE, WE COFOUNDED AND ON THE SUNSTONE SPORTS COUNCIL , WHICH IS OPEN TO ANYONE WHO CONDUCTS BUSINESS WITHIN FLORIDA OR SPORTS TOURISM. THAT INCLUDES DESTINATIONS , RIGHT HOLDERS, VENDORS, SPORTS TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES AND CONSULTANTS ON AND ON. WE ARE ALSO DEEPLY INVOLVED IN FACILITY NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE FACILITY DESIGN AND MANAGEMENT FIRMS, AS WELL. THAT IS WORK WE ARE DOING FOR NASSAU COUNTY AND THE VISITORS BUREAU. WE HAVE INCREASED TRAFFIC AND REVENUE QUITE A BIT FOR OTHER CLIENTS. AS MENTIONED, CURRENT DESTINATION MARKETING CLIENTS , THAT IS A CONTINUING CONTRACT SPECIFIC TO THE FACILITY AND WE ARE ABOUT TO FINISH A PROJECT AT THE END OF THIS MONTH , SO WE HAVE NO CURRENT CONFLICTS OF INTEREST WITH ANY DESTINATION . WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH REFERENCES ALREADY AND I TALKED A BIT ABOUT MYSELF. NOT MY BEST RATE, BUT I HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF MY 30TH YEAR. WE WERE ALL OBVIOUSLY VERY FAMILIAR WITH KIMBERLY MORGAN BEING YOUR DEVELOPING DIRECTOR AND I, TOO, WAS A KIMBERLY IN PREVIOUS LIFE AND ALSO MANAGED THE SPORTS COMMISSION, AS WELL. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER KEY PERSONNEL AND PROJECT STRATEGIST. WE HAVE THREE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AND A GROUP OF 17 INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS . 
          THEY WOULD BE WORKING ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, BUT AVAILABLE SHOULD THEY NEED TO BE. WE ARE JUST UP THE ROAD. I CLOCKED IT TODAY , ONE HOUR AND THREE MINUTES FROM OUR SPOT TO THIS BUILDING, SO NOT TOO FAR . WE ARE SUPER CLOSE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE POINT OUT IN TERMS OF OUR PROJECT APPROACH IS TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE AWARE THAT WE WOULD DIE QUICKLY INTO THE SPORTS TOURISM SCENE. MEET WITH 
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ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS AND PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT AND TAKE THINGS FROM THERE. WHERE WE MATCH CLIENTS WITH EXISTING ASSETS TO THE CLIENTS THAT WE KNOW THAT WOULD BEST FIT HERE, AS WELL. FINALLY, WE ARE ATTRACTED TO THE BUSINESS FOR A PARTICULAR REASON AND IT HAS ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED. THAT IS SPECIFICALLY HOW WE SEE DESTINATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT SET DORMANT IN TERMS OF EFFORT WITH NO PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT. YOU HAVE ALREADY TAKEN THAT ON AS A CHALLENGE WITH THIS NEW FACILITY. TO BE UP FRONT, WE WOULD PROCEED TO DO MORE BEYOND THAT AND WE ASK THAT YOU TAKE A LOOK AT RETRO THING THAT FACILITY WITH THE WAY THAT WE HAVE TAKEN A LOOK AT IT. IT'S A MOCKUP IN ITS CURRENT EXISTENCE. I DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE EXPRESS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND WILLING TO ANSWER ANY 
          QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. QUESTIONS? 
          COMMISSIONER RENNINGER? >> WHAT KIND OF SPORTS? 
          >> IT HAS BEEN MOSTLY LACROSSE . WE HAVE HELPED OUT QUITE A BIT WITH SOCCER TOURNAMENTS THERE. WE HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY OF THOSE ACTIVITIES WITH THAT PARTICULAR 
          CLIENT. >> YOU DON'T DO A LOT OF THAT? 
          >> WE ALSO OWN AND HOST A CONFERENCE IN TWO WEEKS HERE IN FLORIDA THROUGH THE SUNSHINE SPORTS COUNCIL AND WE DO HAVE THE U.S. ASSOCIATION ATTENDING FOR THAT CONFERENCE, AS WELL. 
          IF I COULD ADDRESS ONE MORE THING , THERE WERE SOME OTHER ITEMS, TOO. BASED ON SOME KNOWLEDGE THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT, IF WE WERE ASKED TO GO AFTER A HIGH SCHOOL EVENT, WE CERTAINLY WOULD DO SO, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD CHARGE FOR WITH ONE PARTICULAR REASON. HIGH SCHOOL SCHOOL BOARDS DON'T PAY TAXES. THEY ARE TAX-EXEMPT. THEY WOULD BE SUPPORTING -- THE HOTEL. WHEN YOUR CDB -- WHEN YOU'RE ASKING FOR RESULTS, THEY WILL NOT DRIVE TOWARDS TAX DOLLARS BASED OFF OF HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS . AGAIN, IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO GO AFTER, WE WOULD GO FOR IT. WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND 
          WHAT WILL CREATE SUCCESS. >> THEIR PARENTS PAY TAXES AND 
          LIVE IN HOUSES, BUT ANYWAY. >> THE ONES THAT COME IN WOULD BRING THEIR TAX-EXEMPT FORMS. THIS IS AN INTERESTING BUSINESS. THERE ARE TIMES WHERE YOU HIT A HOME RUN , BUT AT THE SAME TIME THERE ARE TIMES WHEN YOU ARE WORKING WITH A CLIENT FOR THE FIRST TIME AND YOU DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHETHER IT WILL WORK OUT. WE WOULD GO THROUGH ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTS WITH POTENTIAL CLIENTS AND DETERMINE WHETHER THEY ARE 
          APPROPRIATE TO BRING FORWARD. >> YOU JUST TWO QUESTIONS. WHAT ARE SOME WEAKNESSES YOU SEE IN CLAY COUNTY IN THIS POSITION 
          AND HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THEM? >> IF YOU WANT TO COMPARE YOURSELF TO OTHERS AROUND , WHICH WOULD OF COURSE BE THE STATE OF FLORIDA , YOU DON'T HAVE A MASSIVENATIONAL GLOBAL ATTRACTION THAT EVERYONE IS AWARE OF YOU ARE NOT A BEACH DESTINATION THAT RESORTS ON THE BEACH, HOWEVER YOU HAVE WATER AND OTHER TYPES OF WATERFRONT PROPERTIES THAT YOU CAN OFFER. 
          WE WOULD DIG INTO WHAT YOUR STORY IS AND BE ABLE TO TELL THAT TO CLIENTS ACROSS THE GLOBE . WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE WHAT YOU ARE AND THAT'S A GREAT STORY. I DO THINK IT IS MORE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT. I MENTIONED THAT PREVIOUSLY. 
          THERE IS MORE THAT CAN BE DONE ACROSS OTHER SPORTS, AS WELL. 
          >> ANY OTHERS? >> I SEE THAT YOU HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN THIS FIELD WORK. HOW OLD IS THAT? 
          >> FIVE YEARS. JUST TURNED FIVE YEARS OLD. IT'S A FRENCH WORD. 
          IT'S IN THE LOCAL . TELL STORIES WITH GREAT SKILL AND THAT IS OUR APPROACH TO THE STORY AND USE THAT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE. IT ALSO COMES INTO PLAY WITH PUSH MAGAZINE WITH A DIGITAL SPORTS STORE MAGAZINE, AS WELL. WE DO FEATURE STORIES ON DESTINATIONS, COLLEAGUES AND FRIENDS IN THE INDUSTRY . WE TELL THEIR STORY TO HELP THEM ADVANCE CAREERS AND HELP WITH 
          THEIR DESTINATIONS FORWARD. >> I MAY HAVE MISSED IT. WHAT 
          IS YOUR CHARGE? >> 60,000. THAT IS WHAT WE PUT 
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          IN THE PROPOSAL. YES, MA'AM. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THE LAST PRESENTER TODAY IS SEVEN LIGHTS. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE. I MICHAEL, THE CEO OF SEVEN LIGHTS. I HAVE BEEN IN THE INDUSTRY , MARKETING AND ADVERTISING SINCE I WAS 13 . 
          WITH THAT BEING SAID , WE ARE HERE TO HELP YOU ALL. WE ARE HERE TO BE PART OF THE CLAY , THE PLAIN CLAY CAMPAIGN. OUR PRIMARY OBJECTIVE IS TO EMPLOY A MULTICHANNEL MARKETING APPROACH TO ENSURE BROAD OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT. THAT IS ONE THING I HAVEN'T HEARD MUCH OF SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE . 
          WE WILL APPROACH IT NOT JUST OF BUSINESSES, BUT PEOPLE COMING HERE. I'VE GOT 10 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AS A PARENT THAT DID TRAVEL SOFTBALL FROM ALABAMA TO GEORGIA TO OKLAHOMA TO CALIFORNIA. I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR AND I KNOW WHAT THEY SPEND . WHEN YOU TAKE YOUR DAUGHTER AND ALL OF HER FRIENDS AND THEY ARE PLAYING , YOU WILL SPEND A LOT OF MONEY AT RESTAURANTS. WE WORK WITH THESE RESTAURANTS AND TO WORK WITH THEM , PRESENT PACKAGES WHERE DURING THE TOURNAMENTS THEY CAN HAVE COUPONS. OUR PRIMARY OBJECTIVE IS TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE THIS SPORTS COMPLEX THAT HAVE EACH TRAVEL ORGANIZATIONS , U.S. OF A , A.S.A. SOFTBALL TOURNAMENTS, FLAG FOOTBALL LEAGUES. ALL OF THAT IS TO BRING IN PEOPLE AND PEOPLE PAY TAXES. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT , TO RAISE MONEY FOR THE COUNTY. WE DO A LOT OF STUFF WITH COUNTIES AROUND HERE . ECONOMIC GROWTH. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING A LOT WITH THE COUNTY NEXT TO YOU. WE ARE PART OF FLORIDA. I HAD TO DRIVE THREE HOURS. MY OTHER GUY HAD TO DRIVE TO. WE ARE IN ORLANDO, PALM, PANHANDLE. WE ARE ALL IN AN AREA CLOSE TO HERE. WE HAVE 10 EMPLOYEES AND FREELANCERS. 
          WE HAVE BEEN SHOOTING COMMERCIALS AND I HAVE BEEN DOING COMMERCIALS WITH DOLLY AND JULIE WOULD AND DOING COMMERCIALS THAT HAVE BEEN FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS. WE HAVE EXPERIENCE IN MAKING THINGS LOOK NICE. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE EVER TALKED TO COMMISSIONERS, SO I'M JUST LIKE WOW. THIS IS A LOT OF FUN. LET'S SEE. OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO DO A MULTICHANNEL APPROACH FOR BROAD ENGAGEMENT. WE LEVERAGE SOCIAL MEDIA, DIGITAL ADVERTISING, EMAIL CAMPAIGNS AND LOCAL MEDIA AROUND THE PLAIN CLAY CAMPAIGN . 
          ADDITIONALLY, WE COLLABORATE WITH THE TOURISM BOARD, LOCAL BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITY LEADERS TO CUSTOMIZE EXPERIENCES AND CREATE A STRONG LOCAL PRESENCE THAT'S DRIVING ECONOMIC GROWTH. OUR GOAL IS TO TELL THE STORY AND THERE'S A GREAT STORY HERE, WHICH IS WHAT I HAVE EXPERIENCE DOING WITH THE DIFFERENT INTERESTING I HAVE DONE MARKETING AND ADVERTISING FOR OVER THE YEARS. OUR STRATEGY WOULD BE GROUNDED IN COMPREHENSIVE RESEARCH . WE ANALYZE CLAY COUNTY SPORTS VENUES AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE IT. FOR EXAMPLE, WE PLAN TO REVIEW KEY FACILITIES, SUCH AS PARKS OR COMMUNITY CENTERS , EVALUATE THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF FAMILIES AND ATHLETES WHO FREQUENT THE AREAS AND ASSESS THE EVENT TO UNDERGO OPPORTUNITIES, GROWTH. WE UNVEIL CLAY COUNTY'S EXCELLENT SUPPORT VENUES AND RICH OUTDOOR EXPERIENCES SHOWCASING AS IDEAL DESTINATIONS FOR FAMILY-FRIENDLY TOURISM. WE TALK A LOT ABOUT FISHING, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO BRING FISHING THAT WE DESTROY WHAT WE HAVE HERE . THERE IS A LOT OF FISHING TOURNAMENTS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO EVERY YEAR , BECAUSE IT KILLS THE BASS . I HAVE A SON WHO DOES THE FISHING TOURNAMENTS AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS I HEAR. 
          WHEN YOU GO SOMEWHERE AND YOU REPEATEDLY GO . WE WOULD TRY TO SHUFFLE OTHER THINGS AND BRING DIFFERENT FISHING THINGS . 
          THAT'S AN APPROACH AND THE EXPERIENCE I BRING. I HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF TWO CHILDREN THAT HAVE DONE A LOT OF TRAVEL AND SPORTS. OUR APPROACH WILL POSITION CLAY AS A VIBRANT 
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DESTINATION. THIS CAMPAIGN WILL HIGHLIGHT THE SEAMLESS INTEGRATION OF SPORTS, LOCAL BUSINESS AND OUTDOOR ADVENTURES OFFERING A UNIQUE FAMILY ORIENTED VISITOR EXPERIENCE. 
          EVERYONE WHO COMES HERE ONLY PLAY SPORTS FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME DURING THE DAY. IT COULD BE SIX HOURS OR EIGHT HOURS, BUT THERE ARE BREAKS AND THEY NEED SOMETHING TO DO. THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE FAMILY THINGS FOR THE ONES NOT PLAYING SPORTS TO ALSO DO . WE WILL WORK WITH RESTAURANTS AND HOTELS AND WE WILL SHOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS AND REASONS TO COME HERE. JUMPING ALL OVER THE PLACE , BECAUSE THIS IS INTERESTING LOOKING AT THIS FROM THIS POINT OF VIEW INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT A TABLE WITH A MARKETING DEPARTMENT. 
          THIS CAMPAIGN PROMOTES CLAY COUNTY AS A HUB FOR FAMILY FRIENDLY ACTIVITIES AND COMBINES THE COUNTY STRENGTHS, SPORTS VENUES , LOCAL BUSINESSES AND CULTURAL LANDMARKS. THAT IS THE STORY WE WILL TELL PEOPLE COMING HERE TO CREATE A COMPELLING VISITOR EXPERIENCE . BY TELLING THESE EXPERIENCES TO ATHLETES AND FAMILIES ALIKE, WE AIM TO BOOST SATISFACTION AND CREATE ECONOMIC BENEFITS FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE LOCAL PRESENCE, ROGER , BUSINESS LIAISON COORDINATING WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES AND STAKEHOLDERS. 
          OUR ON-SITE SUPPORT , INCLUDING MYSELF AND DIRECT OF PHOTOGRAPHY WILL BE HERE TO COMMUNICATE AND PURCHASE BE IN COMMITTEE OUTREACHES . OUR REMOTE TEAM WILL HANDLE DIGITAL CONTENT , DESIGN AND CAMPAIGN MANAGEMENT TO ENSURE SEAMLESS EXECUTION AND DO REAL-TIME ADJUSTMENTS WITH FACEBOOK AND SOCIAL MEDIA , SO THAT WE CAN KEEP ADVERTISING. THE AD CAMPAIGN WILL FEATURE VISUALS ENGAGING CONTENT THAT HIGHLIGHTS CLAY COUNTY'S UNIQUE OFFERINGS . WE WILL SHOWCASE SPORTS VENUES, FAMILY ACTIVITIES AND LOCAL ATTRACTIONS TO CREATE A NARRATIVE FOR VISITORS AND LOCALS BY INCORPORATING USER GENERATED CONTENT AND PROMOTIONS TO THOSE WHO FOSTER COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT WITH EXCITEMENT. AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU SEE KIDS , REASONS TO COME HERE AND GREAT ACTIVITIES. THEY WILL WANT TO PLAY AND THEY WILL WANT TO SPEND MONEY HERE. WE WILL MEASURE OUR SUCCESS , EVALUATE THE SUCCESS WITH CLEARLY DEFINED AND KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS WITH BOOST IN LOCAL BUSINESS REVENUE AND WEBSITE TRAFFIC. YEAR-OVER-YEAR GROWTH AND VISITOR NUMBERS. TO TRACK PROGRESS, WE UTILIZE TOOLS TRACKING , WHETHER WE ARE TRACKING WEBSITE DISTRICTS, SOCIAL MEDIA INSIGHTS, CRM SYSTEMS AND WORKING WITH LOCAL STAKEHOLDERS FOR DATA EVENTS AND SURVEYS. THIS ALLOWS US TO PIVOT APPROACH TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE MEETING OBJECTIVES AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF TRENDS. OUR SUMMARY AND CONCLUSION? IT IS MORE THAN A MARKETING CAMPAIGN. 
          IT'S A VISION FOR SHOWCASING ALL THAT HAS TO OFFER WITH COMBINING SPORTS TOURISM, LOCAL BUSINESS, ADVENTURES AND CREATE A VIBRANT AND INVITING EXPERIENCE WHILE DRIVING ECONOMIC GROWTH FOR THE COMMUNITY . THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE TO SAY. APPRECIATE YOU LET ME TALKING ABOUT IT. 
          QUESTIONS ? >> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU ARE A CHILDREN'S SOFTBALL EXPERIENCES. HOW HAS SEVEN LIGHTS BEEN ACTIVE WITH HIGH SCHOOL EVENTS IN VARIOUS COMMUNITIES? 
          >> IN MONTGOMERY, WE USED TO BROADCAST FOR THE SHOWS AND TOURNAMENTS. FOR BASKETBALL, SOFTBALL AND OTHER SPORTS FOR LOCAL SCHOOLS. THAT WAS MORE ON A PARENT RELATIONSHIP, KNOWING THE SITUATION. WE HAVE WORKED WITH OTHER SCHOOLS AND TOURNAMENTS WHERE THEY WERE BROADCASTING. THAT IS WHEN I WAS WITH A DIFFERENT AGENCY. WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN 
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THAT AND WHERE WE HAVE SHOT COMMERCIALS FOR THE PREDATORS WHEN THEY FIRST BECAME A PROTEIN PRO TEAM . WE HAVE WORKED WITH KENTUCKY DERBY AND ÚA LOT OF BIG SPORTS AGENCIES. 
          >> WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOUR COMPANY ON TOP OF THE MARKETING 
          SIDE IS ALSO VERY DIGITAL? >> YES. 
          >> PHOTOGRAPHY AND PRINT? >> I GREW UP IN THE FILM INDUSTRY AND I'M A LITTLE OLDER THAN YOU ARE, BUT WE ARE 
          MORE DIGITAL NOW. >> MY LAST QUESTION. YOU TALKED ABOUT PLAYING CLAY. WHAT ARE SOME WEAKNESSES? 
          >> THE WITNESSES WOULD BE THAT IT STILL NEEDS TO DEVELOP MORE. 
          THOSE AREN'T WEAKNESSES IF YOU CAN OVERCOME THEM BY GIVING MORE DIRECTION TO THE PEOPLE COMING HERE. WE PLAYED IN SAN ANTONIO, A TOURNAMENT. WE WERE OUTSIDE OF SAN ANTONIO AND WE WERE IN THERE. IT WAS TERRIBLE. THERE WAS NO FACILITIES FOR FOOD OR ANYTHING. NO DIRECTIONS FOR ANYTHING. TO GET SOMETHING WAS 30 MINUTES . THE FACT THAT WE COME HERE, PLAN AND PREPLAN AND SHOW THE PARENTS WERE TO GO, BECAUSE IF THEY HAD A GOOD TIME, EVEN IF IT'S A 10 MINUTE OR FIVE MINUTE DRIVE, THEY WILL COME BACK. THEY WILL SAY, THAT'S A GREAT TOURNAMENT. 
          LET'S GO BACK. WHEN THEY BLOW ISSUE, THEY HAVE TO BUY ONE. 
          YOU BLOW A GLOVE, YOU HAVE TO BUY A GLOVE. THAT'S TAX REVENUE. I THINK IT'S A GREAT REVENUE SOURCE FOR HOTELS AND 
          RESTAURANTS. >> THANK YOU. STEPHEN HOW OLD 
          IS SEVEN LIGHTS? >> SEVEN LIGHTS IS TWO YEARS OLD. BLUE HORIZON, WHICH WAS MY COMPANY DISSOLVED AFTER 20 YEARS BECAUSE OF. MY REPUTATION IS WHAT I TOOK WITH ME AND I LET HER KEEP THE COMPANY, BECAUSE WE WERE WORKING WITH THE UNIVERSITY WHERE WE TOOK THE COLLEGE FROM 100 STUDENTS A SEMESTER TO 1000 A SEMESTER. WE KEPT HER ATTENTION BY TELLING THE STORIES. WE ARE A GREAT STORYTELLER. SEVEN LIGHTS IS YOUNG , BUT I HAVE BEEN IN THE INDUSTRY FOR QUITE A WHILE. A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. I DON'T SEE ANY CURRENT CONTRACTS. DO YOU HAVE ANY CURRENT CONTRACTS WITH SEVEN LIGHTS? 
          >> WE HAVE A CONTRACT , BUT NOT WITH CLAY COUNTY. WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH BRADFORD. WE ARE DOING VIDEO FOR ECONOMIC 
          GROWTH. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          >> I WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A PRIVILEGE FROM OUR NORMAL PROCEDURE, BECAUSE I REALIZE THAT WHEN WE HEARD PRESENTATIONS LIKE THIS, WE NEVER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR DISCUSSION, BECAUSE WE DON'T DO THE TYPICAL MOTION AND SECOND IN THE WAY THAT WE NORMALLY DO. WAS GOING TO ASK YOU IF IT WOULD BE OKAY IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ? ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MY SECOND THING WOULD BE, DOES ANYONE WANT TO HAVE DISCUSSION BEFORE WE RANK THEM? AND, MAKE A DECISION. 
          >> ONE IS THE BEST AND THE LOW NUMBERS WHEN? 
          >> YES, SIR. >> ONE, TWO AND THREE. YOUR 
          FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD. >> THE MOST QUALIFIED. THAT'S THE QUIETEST WE HAVE EVER BEEN. 
          >> I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY. 
          >> I GUESS RANK YOUR NUMBERS , THEN KAREN WILL TAKE OVER. 
          >> CHRISTIE WILL ACTUALLY DO THE ROLL CALL. 
          >> AIRSTREAM VENTURES, ONE, RACONTEURS , THREE, SEVEN 
          LIGHTS, TWO. >> I DID AIRSTREAM VENTURES, THREE, RACONTEURS, TWO, SEVEN LIGHTS, ONE. 
          >> RENNINGER? >> RACONTEURS, ONE , AIRSTREAM VENTURES, TWO, SEVEN LIGHTS, THREE. 
          >> RACONTEURS, ONE, AIRSTREAM VENTURES, TWO, SEVEN LIGHTS, 
          THREE. >> I HAVE AIRSTREAM VENTURES, ONE, RACONTEURS, TWO, SEVEN LIGHTS, THREE. 
          >> SOMEBODY HAS TO DO SOME MATH AND IT WILL NOT BE ME AND YOU 
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KNOW ME AND MATH. 
          >> YOU HAVE A TIE. THERE IS A TIE FOR AIRSTREAM VENTURES AND RACONTEURS. THE HIGH SCORE BEING SEVEN LIGHTS. THERE IS A TIE OF NINE FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE. AIRSTREAM VENTURES AND 
          RACONTEURS. >> AT THIS TIME, YOU MAY WANT TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSION. IF WE HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK EITHER OF THE COMPANIES, THEN I ASK THAT YOU JUST CONFIRM YOUR SCORE OR RESCORE THE TOP TWO. 
          >> OKAY. DOES ANYONE HAVE DISCUSSION? 
          >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION AND I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT KIMBERLY ON THE SPOT, BUT CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? 
          >> YES, YOU CAN HIT ME LATER. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE CONVERSATION. MY QUESTION IS FOR YOU NOT ON EITHER COMPANY , BUT I REALLY HEARD FROM THE TWO DIFFERENT COMPANIES WITH TWO DIFFERENT APPROACHES. WE ARE USED TO AIRSTREAM VENTURES , SO ONE OF THE POSITIVES I SEE IS THEM HITTING THE GROUND RUNNING. WE DON'T HAVE A GAP AND I'M NERVOUS ABOUT THE GAP, BECAUSE YOU CAN QUICKLY LOSE SIX MONTHS. TODAY IS HALFWAY THROUGH JANUARY AND MY CHRISTMAS TREE IS DOWN, BUT COME ON. IT'S FLYING. ONE IS AIRSTREAM IS MORE BRINGING IN THE ACTUAL EVENTS AND I REALLY HEARD MORE OF THE MARKETING SIDE OF CLAY COUNTY ON RACONTEURS'S, WHICH IS IN YOUR WHEELHOUSE. WHAT MY QUESTION FOR YOU SPECIFICALLY IS, WITH THIS, IS YOUR VISION TO SEE MORE OF THE MARKETING OR JUST 
          BRINGING EVENTS ? >> I KNOW THEY PARTNER WITH US ON THE MARKETING, BUT THAT WAS KIND OF RACONTEURS'S STRONG 
          SUIT MAYBE . >> THE BEST ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS THAT WE NEED SALES. THE TOURISM TEAM ITSELF IS FOCUSED ON PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT AND RELATIONSHIPS WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES HERE . KNOWING THEIR STORIES AND HELPING BUSINESSES GROW THROUGH TOURISM . THE REASON THAT THIS CONTRACT CAME ABOUT WAS THAT WE NEEDED SOMEONE WITH SPORTS EXPERIENCE. 
          SOMEONE THAT HAS RELATIONSHIPS IN THE SPORTS WORLD THAT CAN BRING EVENTS. THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. BRINGING SPORTING EVENTS HERE AND EVIDENCE TO FILL OUR PERIODS . WE KNOW WHEN WE NEED BUSINESS. THE TOURISM TEAM HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK TO KNOW WHO WE ARE, WHAT WE CAN OFFER AND NOW WE JUST NEED TO FIND TOURNAMENTS THAT CAN FILL GAPS DURING TIMES THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE BUSINESS ALREADY . THAT IS THE KEY AND 
          CRITICAL PART. >> THANK YOU. THAT CLARIFIES IT 
          FOR ME. >> JUST A COMMENT. YOU MAY HAVE 
          QUESTIONS . >> THANK YOU, KIMBERLY. 
          >> GO WITH YOUR QUESTION. >> STAFF DID A REVIEW AND SELECTION. MY CONCERN IS THE COST. HOW SIGNIFICANT? THE COST IS SIGNIFICANT , SO MY QUESTION IS, DO YOU FEEL THAT WE WILL GET COMPARABLE SERVICE FROM BOTH APPLICANTS? 
          >> COULD WE ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS? 
          >> DIFFERENTLY. WE CAN. >> I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT TRADE SHOWS AND HOW THAT IS DELIVERED. 
          >> IS THAT AN ADDITIONAL COST ? >> YOU ARE THINKING THAT IT 
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          MIGHT BE OUTSIDE. >> THAT ADDRESSES COMMISSIONER 
          RENNINGER'S QUESTION. >> THAT WAS IN THE RFP AND I THINK SHE JUST WANTS CONFIRMATION AND THEY HAD AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT REQUIRED. 
          >> STATE YOUR QUESTION. I'M NOT FAMILIAR. 
          >> YOUR QUESTION IS ABOUT BUDGET. WITHIN THE BUDGET , WE STATED THAT THE PROPOSAL SHOULD INCLUDE TRADESHOW 
          REPRESENTATION. >> TRADESHOW. I GOT IT. 
          >> I READ IT IN BOTH WHAT THEY PRESENTED AND SPEAKS AT TRADE SHOWS REGULARLY, SO I THOUGHT I WOULD ADDRESS BOTH. THAT WAS MY 
          QUESTION, FOR ONE. >> WE CAN ASK FOR 
          >> WE WILL ASK. OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER? DIDN'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT I COULD VERY WELL TELL YOU HAVE TIME, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW. COULD WE HAVE EACH OF THEM COME BACK UP ? DO YOU WANT TO COME BACK UP AND ADDRESS IT? 
          >> WHEN WE GOT THE CONTRACT FOUR YEARS AGO , OUR CONTRACT WAS $66,000 A YEAR. WE TRAVELED AND DID ALL OF THOSE AROUND THE COUNTRY TO MEET WITH PEOPLE . OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, TRADESHOWS HAVE GONE UP. HOTELS HAVE GONE UP. ALL OF OUR TRAVEL AND MEDIA HAS GONE UP. WHEN WE GO TO TRADESHOWS, WE ADVERTISE IN WAYS AT THE TRADESHOW, SO THAT THEY KNOW ABOUT CLAY COUNTY. THOSE COSTS HAVE GONE UP. BASICALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE, IT IS A NET. WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR MORE MONEY , BUT IT'S COSTING US PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING BECAUSE OF 
          THE COSTS. >> YOUR COST INCLUDE TRAVEL? 
          >> WE PAY FOR ALL TRAVEL AND EVERYTHING WE DO IF WE ARE ENTERTAINING U.S. CYCLING TO GET THEM TO COME TO CLAY COUNTY, WE GET THEM TO PAY FOR THE COKE . WE DO ALL KINDS OF 
          STUFF OUT OF OUR FEES. >> COCA-COLA, LET ME SAY. 
          >> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. YOU HAVE OTHER 
          CLIENTS? >> WE DO. 
          >> YOU ARE ACTUALLY REPRESENTING ALL OF YOUR 
          CLIENTS? >> WE DO. WE TAKE OUR STAFF AND BASED UPON DIFFERENT FACILITIES, THAT IS WHO WE ARE TARGETING. WE COME TO THOSE CONFERENCES AND WITH THESE EIGHT, WE WILL MEET WITH A FACILITY AND IT'S A VERY TARGETED APPROACH. KIND OF A LAISSEZ-FAIRE APPROACH. 
          >> OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. MR. DUNN? 
          >> THANK YOU. AS MENTIONED, WE ARE SPEAKING WITH SEVERAL TRADESHOWS AND CONFERENCES . SOME OF THOSE ARE CLIENTS, SO WE GET TO ATTEND THOSE AT NO COST IN THE CONFERENCE COVERS OUR COST TO BE THERE. IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A LOADED QUESTION . IF THE TOURISM WANTS US TO ATTEND A CONFERENCE AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT RELATIONSHIP , WE WOULD SEEK FOR SOME OF THOSE EXPENSES TO BE COVERED. THE REASONS WHY IT IS THAT WE HAVE LISTED 60,000 AS OUR ANNUAL COMPENSATION AND FULL DISCLOSURE, WHICH WOULD EQUAL THE LOWEST ANNUAL CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE AND WE FELT IT WAS BEST TO COME IN AT THAT NUMBER AND PROVE OURSELVES, RATHER THAN GO TO WHAT WOULD BE MORE IN LINE WITH A MONTHLY RETAINER FOR SOME OF OUR OTHER CLIENTS. 
          HAVING SAID THAT, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEEK ASSISTANCE, WHETHER IT BE ONE OR TWO COSTS, BUT MOSTLY NOT ALL. DO WE NEED HELP WITH A FLIGHT , BUT WHEN WE DO GO TO OTHER SHOWS, I WOULD SAY 2 TO 3 TIMES PER YEAR, WE ALSO TAKE SOME MEETINGS FOR THE VISITORS BUREAU, BUT THOSE ARE SPECIFIC TO SPECIFIC FACILITY DEVELOPMENT. JUST TO CLARIFY, EVENT ACQUISITION IS THE NUMBER ONE THING WE DO FOR CLIENTS, BUT YOU CAN DO THAT WITHOUT 
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OTHER ASPECTS OF BUSINESS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO TOUCH ON. 
          WHAT WE THINK WE SET OURSELVES APART IS THAT WE OWN A MEDIA OUTLET THAT HELPS US DO THAT. FOR OUR OTHER CLIENTS, WE ARE ACTIVELY SEEKING EVENTS AND POSITIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT THROUGH VISITOR SPENDING. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? 
          >> ARE THE QUESTIONS FOR MR. DUNN? COMMISSIONER SGROMOLO, 
          YOU HAD SOME COMMENTS? >> FOR ME, IT IS AN EXTREMELY NICHE MARKET AS IT PERTAINS TO TOURISM. WE DON'T HAVE A PROFESSIONAL SPORTS TEAM OR COLLEGIATE SPORTS TEAM . IF YOU THINK OF THE EVENTS THAT BRING PEOPLE HERE AND IF YOU THINK OF THAT, THE EVENTS THAT PEOPLE BRING, YOU HAVE THE FAIR , ORANGE PARK FALL FESTIVAL . THESE ARE EVENTS THAT PEOPLE AREN'T FROM CLAY , BUT I GO TO CLAY COUNTY TO DO THAT. THE OTHER THINGS I THINK THAT BRING PEOPLE HERE ARE SPORTS. I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS, BUT IF JUSTIN IS OVER THERE -- CLAY COUNTY SOCCER CLUB, FOR INSTANCE. THEY SERVE KIDS NOT JUST IN FLEMING ISLAND, BUT LAKE ASBURY AND KIDS THAT COME TO THE CLAY COUNTY SOCCER CLUB WHEN THEY HOLD CERTAIN TOURNAMENTS. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THREE OR 400 TEAMS. THAT IS DOING THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS TO EVALUATE A VENDOR THAT IMPROVES A TRACK RECORD IN THAT MARKET, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT OUR MARKET IS. OUR MARKET IS NOT SOME OF THESE OTHER EVENTS THAT MAY BE ON A SHORELINE OR BEACH OR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. THAT IS WHY I RANKED THE WAY THAT I DID, BECAUSE IF YOU LIKE IT MATCHES 
          OUR MARKET. >> OTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? I WILL ADD TO WHAT COMMISSIONER SGROMOLO SAID. ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS AND I WILL BE FRANK. IT IS WHAT HE SAID. 
          HE WILL PUSH US TO EXPAND THE SERVICES AT THE REGIONAL PARK. 
          WE ARE WORKING TOWARD THAT AND KNOW THAT WE HAVE A TIGHT BUDGET. WE HAVE DEPENDED A LOT ON STATE APPROPRIATIONS . HE IS HERE SOMEWHERE AND HE WILL TALK TO SLATER ABOUT OUR LEGISLATIVE THERE IN FRONT OF ME . IF HE WAS A SNAKE, HE WOULD'VE BIT ME. I HAVE ALREADY HEARD AN ECONOMIC OUTLOOK FOR 26 AND 27. 
          THEY'RE EXPECTING A SURPLUS FOR THE STATE TO BE NONEXISTENT . WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF STATE APPROPRIATIONS . I KNOW THAT I'M ONE WHO TAKES THE HEAT THE MOST ON THE ORIGINAL PARK NOT BEING OPEN TO AS MUCH AND WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. THE COUNTY MANAGER HAS DONE A GREAT JOB WITH MAKING THAT WHERE OUR RESIDENTS CAN USE SOME OF THAT AND THEY ARE WORKING ON FURTHER PLANS. IF ANYBODY IS WATCHING, THEY ARE WORKING ON FOR THE ABILITY TO USE THE FIELDS AND WHAT WE DON'T WANT IT TO BECOME HIS TAKEOVER FOR ALL OF THE TRAVEL TEAMS THAT ARE HERE LOOKING FOR A FREE PLACE TO PRACTICE AND WE KNOW THAT'S OUT THERE, TOO. AT ANY RATE, THAT'S MY CONCERN. HEIGHTS HAS IN GRADE GREATLY ENJOYED THINGS LIKE SURF. AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, THERE IS A VIDEO SOMEWHERE WHERE I ACTUALLY DID IT IN THE COLD OF THE MARCH ON THE FIRST YEAR, BUT THAT'S A UNIQUE EVENT AND IT'S REALLY KNOWING THAT MARKET. THERE ARE THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE AIRSTREAM VENTURES HAS BROUGHT TO CLAY COUNTY THAT ARE VERY UNIQUE AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE THOUGHT OF . I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY CAN'T THINK OF THOSE , BUT THE OTHER THING I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT IS HOW WIDESPREAD AND I COULDN'T REALLY TELL. THE PEOPLE HAVE MARKETED TO TRADESHOWS IN THE MAGAZINE , BECAUSE WITH ONLY THREE EMPLOYEES THAT CAN DELUDE US QUITE A BIT. I DIDN'T HEAR THAT FROM AIRSTREAM. THEY SEEM FOCUSED ON THIS MARKET , SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS. THOSE WERE THE REASONS I DID MIND THE 
          WAY I DID. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NOT 
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HEARING ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. I GUESS WE RANK YOUR RANKS. 
          >> SGROMOLO? >> AIRSTREAM, ONE, RACONTEURS, 
          TWO . >> RENNINGER? 
          >> RACONTEURS, ONE, AIRSTREAM, TWO. 
          >> COMPERE? >> RACONTEURS, ONE, AIRSTREAM, 
          TWO. >> RACONTEURS, ONE, AIRSTREAM, 
          TWO. >> AIRSTREAM, ONE, RACONTEURS, 
          TWO. >> RACONTEURS , SEVEN, 
          AIRSTREAM, EIGHT. >> IS THE SCORING I RECEIVED, 
          ALSO. >> WE NEED A MOTION TO ALLOW STAFF TO MOVE INTO NEGOTIATIONS FOR A CONTRACT . WOULD YOU LIKE US TO ALSO INCLUDE IN THE MOTION TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE NUMBER TWO IF A CONTRACT CANNOT BE REACHED? 
          >> YES, MA'AM. >> CAN SOMEONE MAKE THAT MOTION, PLEASE CLICK SEE ? DOING NEED TO VOTE ON THAT PART? THE CONTRACT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD. 
          >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING AND ENTERTAINING OUR QUESTIONS. WE APPRECIATE IT. ACTUALLY, IF WE CAN TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS, IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO OUR COMMISSIONERS. 
          >> I WILL NOW RECONVENE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING FOR JANUARY 14, 2025. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US THAT 
          [28.  Public Hearing on Ordinance and Resolution to Amend the Capital Improvement Plan and Other Budget Adjustments (R. Kantor)]
RECESS. WE ARE ON TO ITEM 28, PUBLIC HEARING ON ORDINANCE AND RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE CIP AND BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS, . 
          >> THIS REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE OF THE ROAD PROJECT. IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE $1 MILLION THAT I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT. THAT WILL BE LATER. 220 IS RECEIVING AN ADDITIONAL 72,000 871 AND FOR THE BONDED ROAD PROJECT, THIS AMENDMENT WILL PROVIDE $400,000 FOR LAND PURCHASES. OTHER ITEMS AND THE ABCS OF THIS, TO RECOGNIZE GRANTS FOR THE ASPCA NATIONAL SHELTER INITIATIVE GRANT AND THE LUTHERAN CORE GRANT. ALSO, ARPA PROJECTS ARE BEING FINALIZED WITH BUDGETS PLACED FOR ALL PROCEEDS EXPENSE AND GRANT ADDS THE $200,000 TO THE MARKET PROJECT , WHICH IS A QUICK BRIEF OF WHAT THE AMENDMENT IS ALL ABOUT. THE PUBLIC HEARING PART OF THE 
          ORDINANCE, THEN HE CAN DECIDE. >> QUESTIONS FOR RIDGE? I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT OR OTHER BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS THAT HE JUST WENT THROUGH? SEEING NONE. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD . WE WILL START WITH ITEM B, APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION AMENDING THE NON-CIP PORTION -- SORRY. WE WILL START WITH THE CIE PORTION . WE NEED TO START WITH ITEM A. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOTION AND SECOND GRADE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, INDICATED BY SAYING I. THOSE OPPOSED? 5-0. WE CAN ENTERTAIN ITEMS B AND C TOGETHER. APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION AMENDING THE NON-CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ELEMENT FOR THE 24 AND 2025 BUDGET. 
          >> MOVE APPROVAL. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. THANK YOU. 
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          >> THANK YOU. I WILL SEE YOU SOON. 
          >> THE NEXT BUDGET AMENDMENT? >> HE TOLD ME HE WANTED TO MOVE THESE AND WE MADE THAT CHANGE ALREADY AND YOU CAN'T. SEE YOU 
          [29.  Final Public Hearing to Consider adoption of ZON 24-0035, Proposal Addressing Replacement Policy (B. Carson)]
NEXT MEETING. ITEM 29 , FINAL PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ZONING PROPOSAL FOR THE REPLACEMENT POLICY 24-0035 . THIS IS A STAFF POLICY ADJUSTMENT . IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM WHEN I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? IF THERE IS, WE HAVE TO SWEAR YOU IN. THERE IS NO ONE HERE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND, WE WILL SWEAR 
          YOU IN BEFORE YOU SPEAK. >> AS YOU SAID, THIS IS A STAFF INITIATED AMENDMENT AND THE REQUEST IS TO ADD TO SECTION 3-11 WITH NONCONFORMING USED TO ADD A PORTION OF THE CODE. A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, WE HAVE BEEN THIS THE LAST MEETING. APRIL 2010, BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ON THE FLOOR CREATED A POLICY, WHICH IS REFERRED TO AS REPLACEMENT POLICY FOR LOTS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY PERFORMING TO THE ZONING CODE STANDARDS IN WHICH A BUILDING PERMIT WAS ISSUED . 
          SHOULD ANYTHING HAPPEN TO THAT STRUCTURE AND NEEDS REPLACEMENT, THIS POLICY ALLOWED FOR REPLACEMENT OF THAT STRUCTURE EVEN THOUGH IT WAS NOT CONFORMANCE WITH OUR CODE IF THE BUILDING PERMIT WAS ISSUED. THIS POLICY WAS NEVER CODIFIED AND IT WAS A POLICY DONE ON THE BOARD FOR AND WITH THE REQUEST TONIGHT& POLICY TO THE LANDOWNING CODE WITH A FEW CHANGES. RECENTLY, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES. PART OF THE CODE IS THAT WITH THE CONDITION OF THE CODE , THE REPLACEMENT HAS TO MATCH THE FOOTPRINT OF EXISTING STRUCTURE AND PROPERTY APPRAISERS FOR WHAT THE SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE WAS. RECENTLY, THERE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THE STRUCTURE COULD NOT BE DUPLICATED IN SIZE. THEY CANNOT MAKE STRUCTURES THAT SMALL ANYMORE, SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A LARGER SIZE, WHICH WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THIS POLICY. 
          JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AND HOW THEY WERE CREATED AND DON'T MEET OUR CODE, LET'S CREATED PRIOR TO 1991 ARE CONSIDERED A LOT OF RECORD, BECAUSE CODE WAS ADOPTED IN 1991. YOU WILL HAVE SOME LOTS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY MEET THE CODE WHEN IT WAS ADOPTED. THESE ARE USUALLY REFERRED TO AS A LOT OF RECORD AND ARE TREATED AS BUILDABLE. THIS ALSO APPLIES TO SUBDIVISIONS THAT WERE PLANTED PRIOR TO 1991. 
          THEY WERE TREATED AS BUILDABLE WITH NO LIMITATIONS ON THE REPLACEMENT OF ANY OF THOSE STRUCTURES. SINCE 1991, WE HAVE HAD LANDOWNERS GO TO OUR PROPERTY APPRAISERS OFFICE. 
          WITHOUT GUIDANCE FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING OFFICE, THEY WILL SPLIT A PENCIL. PROPERTY APPRAISERS HAVE TO DO A REQUEST TO SPLIT IT AND IT'S NOT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO ENFORCE OUR CODE, BUT WORK WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCLAIMER ADDED TO THEIR PAPERWORK , SO THAT WHEN THEY SPLIT A PARCEL, IT MAY NOT BE BUILDABLE . WE ARE HOPING TO FIX THAT SITUATION. THE BOARD POLICY APPLIES TO LOTS IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE. TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, REMOVED THE RESTRICTION ON SIZE , WHICH HAS BECOME A PROBLEM . IT WOULD REQUIRE THAT THERE ARE A REPLACEMENT STRUCTURE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE APPLICABLE ZONING DISTRICT. IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NOT LIMITED IN SIZE, BUT HAS TO BE MEET THE STANDARD AND REQUIRED TO MEET MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE. IT WOULD APPLY TO PARCELS CREATED PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION DATE OF THIS CODE . WE ARE TRYING TO NOT ENCOURAGE THAT THERE BE MORE PARCELS NOT MEETING OUR CODE. THIS WOULD PUT A STOP DATE ON IT. WITH THAT, STAFF IS PROPOSING THE REVISED POLICY TO GO INTO SECTION 3-11 ONE IN CODE. WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE 
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BCC RESCIND THE POLICY ADOPTED APRIL 10 -- APRIL 13, 2010 BELOW. I HAVE INCLUDED THAT FOR YOUR REFERENCE, AND ADOPT THE NEW FOLLOWING POLICY IN 311 . PARCELS CREATED PRIOR TO JANUARY 14, 2025 IN WHICH A SINGLE-FAMILY MODEL HOME OR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE SITE BASED UPON THE ISSUANCE OF A BALLOT BUILDING PERMIT BY CLAY COUNTY SHALL PURCHASE A HOME OR MOBILE HOME WITH MINIMUM SETBACKS AND MINIMUM LIVING AREA OF THE ZONING HISTORY TO WHICH THE PARCEL IS LOCATED. THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THIS ITEM ON DECEMBER 3RD AND THEY VOTED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. I HAVE BOTH POLICIES HERE FOR YOU TO SEE THE COMPARISON, TOO. DO YOU 
          HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> QUESTIONS FOR BETH? SEEING NONE. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WHO HAS CHANGED THEIR MIND AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT 
          BACK TO THE BOARD. >> MOVE APPROVAL. 
          >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. 
          [30.  Public Hearing on the Closing, Vacating and Abandoning of Circle Court (C. Grimm)]
THANK YOU, BETH. ITEM 30, PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CLOSING, VACATING AND ABANDONING OF CIRCLE COURT. 
          >> THIS WAS AN APPLICATION RECEIVED IN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FOR THE CLOSING OF CIRCLE COURT, WHICH IS AN UN-OPEN RIGHT-OF-WAY . THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE , DEBORAH AND JOHN HOFFMAN . INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP IS THE APPLICATION AND COPY OF THE PLOT SHOWING YOU THE OPENED RIGHT-OF-WAY. 
          THE HOFFMAN'S HAVE ACQUIRED NINE LOTS THAT SURROUNDED. 
          THERE IS ANOTHER REMAINING LOT THAT IS OWNED BY DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS WHO DID CEMENT CONSENT, WHICH IS ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR APPLICATION. THE ONE CAVEAT FROM STAFF IS THAT IN CONNECTION WITH THESE LOTS AND PRESUMABLY BEING USED FOR PERSONAL USE AND NOT FOR A SUBDIVISION , BUT IF THEY EVER WERE USED FOR A SUBDIVISION OR SOMEHOW SUBDIVIDED , THEN OBVIOUSLY THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS WOULD CONTROL AND THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE ACCESS PROVIDED BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS. WITH THAT SAID, THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE OR IF 
          YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. >> WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANTS? COULD YOU COME UP, PLEASE? 
          >> HELLO. >> PULL THAT MICROPHONE THERE. 
          THANK YOU. >> HELLO. QUESTION? 
          >> COULD YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE -- 
          >> BACK STORY. >> OKAY. WE PURCHASED IT TO BE SUBDIVIDED TO MULTIPLE HOUSES. WE ARE USING IT FOR PERSONAL. 
          WE WANT TO BUILD A HOUSE ON THERE WITH A SUBSTRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY, ALSO . EVEN THOUGH IT'S PLOTTED OUT DIFFERENT LOTS, WE ARE NOT EVEN DOING THAT. IT'S JUST ONE BIG 
          PROPERTY. >> WHEN YOU BOUGHT IT, DID YOU KNOW IT HAD THIS UNOPENED RIGHT-OF-WAY ON IT? 
          >> YES. THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE PEOPLE AND DEVELOPERS GOING IN AND DEVELOPING STUFF LIKE THAT WITH THE ZONING DEPARTMENTS WITH MULTIPLE PEOPLE. THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN, BECAUSE OF THE LOTS BEING TOO SMALL TO BUILD ON AT 
          TODAY'S STANDARDS. >> FOR SOME PEOPLE CANNOT BE 
          BUILT ON? >> I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHICH ONES . THE ZONING DEPARTMENT CAN TELL YOU . I THINK LOTS ONE, TWO AND THREE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT SETBACKS, BECAUSE THEY ARE ON 21 TO BE ABLE TO BUILD ON WITH THE DRIVEWAYS AND 
          STUFF. >> MANAGER? 
          >> DID YOU MAKE THIS PROPERTY WAS AT SEVERAL? 
          >> IT'S ALL ONE. >> YOU MADE A PURCHASE FOR THE 
          WHOLE? >> MADAM CHAIR? 
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          >> FROM THE CUL-DE-SAC , THE ONE THAT DOES HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHERE IS IT LOCATED IN REFERENCE TO THE CUL-DE-SAC? 
          >> DO HAVE THE MAP IN FRONT OF YOU? 
          >> IT'S AT THE VERY BEGINNING. IF YOU TURN INTO THE CUL-DE-SAC, IT'S THE FIRST PIECE OF PROPERTY ON THE 
          LEFT-HAND SIDE. >> CLOSEST TO THE ROAD? IT'S 
          NOT IN THE MIDDLE? >> FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING , WHEN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS VACATED , THAT ONE PARTICULAR PROPERTY , THEY WILL RECEIVE HALF OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. IT ORDERS THEIR PROPERTY . AFTER YOU GET PAST THE PROPERTY, ALL 
          OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. >> IT IS 60 FEET OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. YOU DON'T NEED 60 FEET FOR THE VEHICLE TO GO THROUGH. THEY WILL GET 30 ON THEIR SIDE. 
          >> QUESTIONS? DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO TELL US ON THIS ONE? RICHARD, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO TALK TO ON THE PHONE BEFORE I OPENED THE HEARING? 
          >> RICHARD SMITH, COUNTY ENGINEER. I WANT TO MAKE SOME THINGS CLEAR ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID IS CORRECT. THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY FOR THE RESIDENTS -- RESIDENCE IS OCCUPIED. IT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL STAY INTACT AND BE ON THEIR PROPERTY. I'M LEANING TO BETH ON THIS. WE NEED TO CLEAR THESE ISSUES UP WHEN THEY COME AND NOT LEAVE IT UP TO -- THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AND TAX COLLECTOR AND THOSE OFFICES CLEAR GUIDANCE. WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND ON THIS IS A COMBINATION PLAN . WE TALK ABOUT THE NINE LOTS AND IT'S ACTUALLY 12 LOTS OF WHICH ONE OF THEM IS OCCUPIED BY THE FAMILY THAT GETS HALF OF THE FRONTAGE AND THE OTHER TWO ON STATE ROAD 21 AND ARE PART OF THE PURCHASE. WE NEED A PLAT THAT DEPICTS WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN THEY ARE DONE. THERE IS NO CIRCLE COURT. IT WAS NEVER APPROVED OR BUILT ON. IT WILL MAKE IT ONE PARCEL AND ONE TAX I.D. NUMBER AND THE PROPERTY APPRAISER CAN PROPERLY APPRAISE IT AND WE WILL FIND IT SIMPLER YIELDS YEARS FROM NOW. 
          I RECOMMEND A COMBINATION PLAT ANY TIME WE CONSOLIDATE THE PARCELS TOGETHER. SHE WAS CORRECT. THOSE LOTS ARE VERY DIFFICULT AND RULES FOR SEPTIC TANK. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? 
          >> THANK YOU. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT 
          BACK TO THE BOARD. >> MOVE APPROVAL. 
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION . DO WE HAVE A SECOND? 
          >> THIS COMBINATION PLAT , WHO DEVELOPS THE COMBINATION PLAT? IT WILL BE A PROFESSIONAL SURVEYOR. THE FRONTAGE IS ON STATE ROAD 21 AND , BUT IT BASICALLY MEMORIALIZED AND THIS COUPLE NOW OWNS ONE PARCEL. IT WOULD BE A SKETCH. IT ALLOWS THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AND OFFICE TO DO THE JOB WITHOUT 
          GUESSING. >> I THINK IT WOULD BE BY THE 
          PEOPLE PURCHASING. >> THAT WOULD BE A CONDITION. I GUESS IT'S IF THEY EVER CAME IN TO SERVE -- BUILD ON THAT. 
          THEY WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE SETBACKS OF THE NINE LOTS THERE. THAT IS UNLESS THEY CAN MAGICALLY FIT THE PIECES AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S A RESTRICTION . IT'S CURRENTLY SUBJECT TO SETBACKS OFF OF WHAT'S DRAWN ON THE PLAT AND A COMBINATION PLAT THAT WOULD REMOVE THIS AND ESTABLISH THE SETBACKS BY NEW PROPERTY LINES. IT WOULD BE THE APPLICANT'S 
          RESPONSIBILITY. >> THIS PLAT IS SOLD SO OLD. IT 
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APPEARS ALMOST HAND-DRAWN. IT'S ALMOST NOT WITH A RULER. 
          THAT'S HOW IT APPEARS TO ME. IT LOOKS REALLY OLD. 
          >> IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A WORK OF ART. 
          >> FULL DISCLOSURE, I HAVE BEEN HANGING OUT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OVER HALF A CENTURY OF EXISTENCE. WE DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT , BUT NO ONE EVER KNEW IT WAS THERE. 
          >> TRUE. >> EVEN 20 YEARS AGO IN THE HOUSE IN THE CORNER WAS BUILT EVERYONE WAS LIKE, THEY CUT DOWN A BUNCH OF TREES AND BUILT A HOUSE. NOBODY KNEW ANY OF THIS WAS THERE. THEY DIDN'T GET A VOTE, BECAUSE THEY DON'T REPORTER IT, BECAUSE -- BUT THEY WILL BE HAPPY, AS WELL. 
          >> AS A VISITOR, IT WAS LIKE LANDING ALMOST. IT WAS STILL PART OF THE BASE AND OBVIOUSLY IT WASN'T. THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION . I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN OUR CODE OR NOT, BUT WE NEED TO UPDATE THE CODE TO A LANGUAGE LIKE THAT TO 
          CLARIFY THESE IN THE FUTURE. >> DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? GO AHEAD. 
          >> RICHARD, I HATE TO SEE YOU SIT DOWN . HE'S GETTING HIS STETSON. I'M CURIOUS. THIS COMBINATION PLAT IS THE SOLUTION . I KNOW THAT IT'S THE PURCHASER . IT'S ON THEM TO GET THIS COMBINATION PLAT INSTITUTED. MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO REQUIRE ON THE COUNTY AND AT THIS JUNCTURE OR IS IT LATER DOWN THE PROCESS? 
          >> UPON THEIR REQUEST FOR IMPROVEMENT. AGAIN, IT WAS STATED THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO THE REGULAR SUBDIVISION CODES. THE SUBDIVISION CODE WOULD COME IN AND IF THEY CAME IN FOR THE HOME AND THEY CAN DEVELOP THEIR SINGLE HOME THE EXISTING PLAT HAS A SMALL ROAD AND THE NINE LOTS OFF OF IT ARE SUBJECT TO OUR CURRENT SETBACKS EACH BETWEEN EIGHT PLAT THAT NEED SEPARATION FROM THE NEXT BUILDING AREA OR THE NEXT A LOT. IF THEY PUT A HOUSE THAT GOES OVER TWO OF THOSE MYTHICAL LINES, IT'S NOT LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IF WE DRIVE THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD AND FIVE HOUSES WITH FIVE DIFFERENT LOT , BUT IT'S A BUNCH OF WOODS. 
          THERE ARE LEGAL PROPERTY LINES THERE THAT WOULD BE ELIMINATED. 
          >> MY QUESTION IS WHETHER THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO -- IS THAT A MODIFICATION TO THE LAND OF THE BOWLING CODE THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER AS A BOARD? AT WHAT POINT DO WE NEED TO BIND THE FUTURE PARCEL OWNER TO GET THE COMBINATION PLAT? 
          >> THE BEST WAY IS IF THEY GOT NINE TAX BILLS IN THE MAIL. 
          THERE SHOULD BE ONE CREATED FOR EACH ONE IF WE ARE DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY. THEY KNOW THEY ARE THE SINGLE OWNER OF ALL NINE PARCELS. IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION IF WE WANT TO CONDITION IT NOW , THEN IT NEEDS TO BE DONE. 
          >> I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK INTO IT, BECAUSE AS BETH MENTIONED IN HER PRESENTATION WITH THE OTHER POLICY, WE ASKED THE PROPERTY APPRAISER TO INCLUDE ON THE NOTICES OF INFORMATION ABOUT COMBINING PROPERTIES. THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS ALREADY UNDER ONE PARCEL I.D., BECAUSE IT WAS DONE BY THE PROPERTY APPRAISER. THAT DIDN'T INVOLVE US. WE NEED TO GET WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER TO SEE IF THEY ARE GOING TO -- 
          WE CAN TRIGGER SOMETHING . >> LET'S TAKE ONE STEP BACK AND NOT TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE, BUT IT'S TOO PARCELS. IT'S THE CIRCLE, COURT, RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THE PARCEL BEING TAXED. 
          >> LYONS THE OTHER PARCEL. >> EVEN THAT WOULD REQUIRE A COMBINATION PLAT TO LEGALLY MAKE IT ONE PARCEL WITH NO COUNTY OWNERSHIP OR RIGHTS AT ALL. WE ARE VACATING OUR RIGHTS. WE ARE NOT GIVING IT TO ANYBODY. THAT'S MY 
          UNDERSTANDING. >> WE JUST ABANDONED AND ONCE 
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THIS GETS RECORDED , THEN WHOEVER COMES TO SURVEY YOUR NEW PROPERTY KNOWS TO PICK IT UP AND TAKES HALF . 
          >> DOES THAT CLARIFY? >> I JUST HEARD THIS PENDING 
          ANSWER. >> I THINK WE HAVE TO GET WITH 
          PLANNING AND THE SIDE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND GRADE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. THOSE APPRAISED OPPOSED? MOTION 
          [21.  Progress Report on the Bonded Transportation Program (E. Dendor)]
CARRIES 5-0. WE ARE DONE WITH OUR 5:00 TIME AND WE ARE UP TO 
          MR. DENDOR. >> GOOD EVENING, BORED. 
          TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR. I'M HERE TO UPDATE THE PROGRESS THAT THE TEAM HAS MADE OVER THE LAST MONTH. HER MASTERS TO PINE TREE LANE, THE COUNTY TEAM IN COLUMBIA AFTER DINNER BIMONTHLY STATUS AND THEY CONTINUE THE INSTALLATION OF LINERS AND DRAINAGE STRUCTURES. THEY ALSO CONTINUE THE INSTALLATION OF UTILITIES AND DEMOLITION EXISTING DRIVEWAYS AND PLACING ASPHALT FOR ACCESS. THIS IS ON SCHEDULE WITH 18% PAID OUT AND 37% . THIS BASICALLY APPLIES TO ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS. PARAGRAPH TWO, APPRAISALS AND OFFERS CONTINUE WITH RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION SPECIFICALLY FOR PROJECT TWO WITH ADJUSTMENTS NOW COMPLETE THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDOR. THE INSTALLATION OF THE PERMANENT CROSSING AND SIGNALS, AS WELL AS TEMPORARY CROSSING CYSTS SIGNAL AND STORMWATER DRAIN PIPE . THEY CONTINUE TO MAKE PROGRESS BY PLACING THE FINAL ASPHALT AND TEMPORARY ASPHALT. 
          THE NEW SIGNAL AT 209 AND 315 INTERSECTION IS ANTICIPATED OPERATIONAL THIS WEEK . ALL OF THIS WORK IS IN PREPARATION FOR THE NEXT TRAFFIC AND ELIMINATING RAILROAD CROSSING THE TOUR TOMORROW AFTER THE MORNING TRAFFIC . WE ARE SHOOTING SOMEWHERE . THE PROJECT IS 34% PAID OUT AND 37% AT THE TIME USED. FOR PROJECTS FIVE BY 220 AND THE TEAM CONTINUES TO TRACK THE U.S. ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEER PERMIT APPLICATION THROUGH THE PROCESS WHILE UNDER REVIEW. PROJECT THREE A AND 209, THIS IS NOW COMPLETE. THEIR FINAL INVOICE TO CLOSE OUT THE PROJECT AND BEGIN THE TWO YEAR WARRANTY PERIOD. 3B , THIS SECTION IS THE PROJECT ARE AND RUNS AROUND 209 B. THIS PROJECT IS 6% PAID OUT WITH 58% OF THE TIME LAPSED. PROJECT FOUR, CONTINUES WITH PLACEMENT , INSULATION AND TYING IN THE SIDEWALKS PLACING CURBING AND TYING IN THE SUBDIVISION INTEREST ROADS AND LATER OF THAT FRICTION FORCE OF ASPHALT. THIS IS ON SCHEDULE AND 97% PAID OUT AN 80% AT THE TIME OF USE. MOVING ONTO PROJECT SIX B , THE TEAM CONTINUES TO HOLD BIO BIMONTHLY STAFF MEETINGS. SUPERIOR CONTINUED PLACING CONCRETE IN THE TRAFFIC AND RAILINGS ON THE BRIDGE. SOFT OR FORMED IN PLACE AND EXHIBITION CONTINUES AS BACKFILL OVER THE ALIGNERS AND TWO IS WRAPPING UP . THE INSTALLATION OF SUBBASE, LIMESTONE BASE, SIDEWALKS, JOINT USPAP, PLACEMENT AND CURBING CONTINUES. THE LANDMARK AND PLACEMENT OF THE ASPHALT CONTINUES THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT. THE PROJECT SCHEDULE IS UNDER CONTENTION WITH 98% OF THE TIME USED AND 89% PAID OUT. THE COUNTY AND SUPERIOR CONSTRUCTIONS ARE MEETING TO WORK THROUGH A RESOLUTION. IN SUPPORT OF THIS WORK, WTI WORKS THROUGH THE SPECTRUM OF THE PROGRAM AND AS OF JANUARY 7TH, 104.9 MILLION OF THE FUNDS. 
          LAST WEEK, CLAY COUNTY TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM WAS RECOGNIZED WITH AN AWARD BY THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA COUNSEL FOR 
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YOUR TRANSPORTATION INITIATIVE AND THAT HAS HAD A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE NORTHEAST REGION. THAT IS REPRESENTED HERE WITH THE PLAQUE THEY HAD GIVEN THE COUNTY. I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THAT WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER. WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES OUR REPORT AND I'M OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. 
          >> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? >> BURKE? 
          >> IS NOT GOING TO STAY THERE NOW? 
          >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. OBVIOUSLY, THE TRAFFIC AT 209 AND 315 B, THERE IS A NEW SIGNAL. ONCE THE SHIFT OCCURS, YOU HAVE TO LET THE TRAFFIC SETTLE OUT, BECAUSE THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GO THAT SAME ROUTE AND EXPECT TO SEE THE SAME LIGHT. THE COUNTY ENGINEER AND I AND CONTRACTORS HAVE LOOKED AT IT AND TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. WE WANT TO SETTLE OUT AND DETERMINATION OF WHETHER TO LEAVE IT IN PLACE OR 
          USE IT FOR FUTURE USE LATER ON. >> IS THAT TEMPORARY LIGHT? 
          >> IT WAS A LIGHT PLACED FOR THE USE AND EXPECTED ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC FOR THAT HE TOUR. ONCE THE TRAFFIC SETTLES DOWN AND MAYBE SOME TRAFFIC DETOURING ON 315 GOES BACK TO 209 , WE WILL GET A TRAFFIC COUNT AND SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE BEFORE A DECISION , SO IT WON'T BE SHUT OFF TOMORROW IMMEDIATELY. 
          >> IT IS NICE HAVING IT THERE AND IN OTHER ASPECTS YOU CAN 
          SEE IT. >> ONCE THE PARKWAY IS COMPLETED AND YOU HAVE MORE TRAFFIC GOING DOWN 315, THAT SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION SHOULD BE LOOKED AT, AS WELL. 
          >> I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS -- EVERYONE WHO SHOWED UP EARLIER , I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT I WENT THERE FOR YEARS AND I'M STILL A MEMBER. MY KIDS WERE RAISED THERE AND DID SPORTS THERE. MY DAUGHTER'S PRAISE AND WORSHIP TEAM STILL, SO I KNOW THE IMPACT THE CHURCH HAS ON THE COMMUNITY AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE AND YOU KNOW I'VE ASKED OVER AND OVER AGAIN ARE SOME DIFFERENT WORK APPEAR UP HERE. THE CHURCH WAS IN TURMOIL AT THAT POINT AND JUST HAD A CHANGE IN STAFF. I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING WE ARE DEALING WITH AS FAR AS CHANGES, CHANGE ORDERS AND DRAINAGE. I THINK IT WILL BE A VERY BIG MISTAKE FOR US NOT LOOKING AT SOMETHING TO EAT HERE. IT'S BEEN 109 YEARS AND THEY COULDN'T HAVE FORESEEN CROSS CREEK OR OTHER DEVELOPMENT IN THEIR AREA . I JUST FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD LOOK AT THEM MORE AND LOOK OUT FOR THE PEOPLE , CITIZENS, ELDERLY, KIDS AND EVERYONE . THIS CHURCH GIVES A LOT TO OUR COUNTY AND DOESN'T ASK FOR ANYTHING IN RETURN . I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER AND I'M NOT AN ENGINEER OR A PRO LIKE YOU, BUT I WOULD ASK FOR WHOEVER TO SUPPORT ME ON THIS, BUT WE HAVE TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT. I CAN FORESEE MAJOR PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS. 
          >> WHEN ED SHOWED ME THE MAP , MY FIRST REACTION THAT IS THEIR MAIN PARKING LOT. WE DON'T HAVE THE DRIVEWAY AND WE HAVE IT THE OTHER ONE. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD IMPROVE -- CONNECT TWO PARKING LOTS, SO THEY CAN BETTER USE THE PARKING LOT THAT IS CONNECTED WITH THE OTHER ONE OR THE PAVED ONE? THE 
          PAVED ONE IS THE LAST ONE. >> THEY ARE PAVED. 
          >> THE LAST TIME I HAD BEEN AT YOUR CHURCH WAS QUITE A WHILE AGO AND I APOLOGIZE I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE SOONER . ANYWAY , LAST TIME, ONE WAS DIRT AND THE OTHER WAS NOT. YOU ADDED YOUR SPORTS AND ALL OF THAT AND EDDIE SAID THAT HE DIDN'T THINK WE COULD APPROVE PROPERTY AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS A WAY THAT BECAUSE OF THE LAND TRADE OR SOME LIKE THAT AND IT CAN WORK MAGICALLY AND I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT PRESSURE, BUT I 
          AGREE. >> SHE HAS ALREADY. 
          >> I KNOW. I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS TODAY. MY UNDERSTANDING IS 
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THAT COURTNEY, RICHARD AND ED, THE WORDS THAT ONE OF YOU USED AND I WILL NOT PUBLICLY CALL YOU OUT, BUT ONE OF USE THE WORD HEART AND IT DOES TOUCH TOUCH OUR STAFF'S HEART. WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE ALSO HAVE TO OBEY TRAFFIC LAWS AND I ALSO WONDER, IS THERE A NEGOTIATION? DO WE OWN THE ROADS OR IS THAT PART ? CAN WE MAKE AN AGREEMENT TO MAKE IT PROBABLY SAFER FOR THE PEOPLE OF RUSSELL BAPTIST TO EXIT? BECAUSE OF THE ENTRANCE TO CROSS CREEK, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU CAN MAKE A BETTER TRAFFIC PATTERN FOR THEIR CHURCH MEMBERS TO MAKE IT IN ENTRANCE AND EXIT ONLY. IT DOES STRIKE ME . THAT WAS A WHILE AGO , SO MAYBE THAT'S NOT YOUR MAIN ENTRANCE. 
          >> TO BE HONEST, I WAS TAKEN ABACK BY IT, AS WELL AS ETIQUETTE CAME UP RECENTLY OR LAST DAY OR SO AS FAR AS BEING AN ISSUE. WE MET WITH THE PASTOR AS TRUSTEES , AS WELL AS THE TEAM AND OUR COUNTY'S TEAM AND COUNTY ENGINEER. THEY MET WITH OUR PASTORS AND THE TEAM LISTENED FOR WELL OVER A YEAR AGO AND I DO APPRECIATE THE FACILITY AND WE USE THE LARGE FACILITY FOR OUR TOWNHOME MEETING AND WHEN WE HAD OUR FIRST MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ALL OF THESE, WE HAD THEM LAID ACROSS OUR TABLE AND THERE IS A LOT OF GIVE AND TAKE AS FAR AS QUESTION AND ANSWER. I HAVE LISTENED TO THE PASTOR ON THE INTERNET. THAT'S THE GREAT THING ABOUT THE INTERNET. THERE ARE OTHER WAYS OF CAPTURING THAT, BUT AGAIN, IT SET US BACK AND I SPENT SOME TIME WITH RICHARD HERE TODAY AND WE AGREE 110%. WE WANT THE SAFETY AND TO CONTINUE KEEPING THE SAFETY OF THE TROUBLE COMMUNITY AT HEART WITH TWO ENTRANCES THAT CLOSE , THE MAIN PRIMARY ENTRANCE AND THE LARGE ENTRANCE TO THE CHURCH ON THE WEST SIDE. THERE IS A LOT OF CONVOLUTED TRAFFIC. 
          THIS IS AS THE TRAFFIC CONTINUES TO PICK UP WITH THE SUBDIVISIONS BUILDING COMPARED TO 109 YEARS AGO. IT'S WHERE THOSE TWO ENTRANCES HAVE BEEN USED IN THE PAST. BRINGING IT UP TODAY KEEPS THE TRAVELING PUBLIC SAFE . WE ARE ALWAYS OPEN TO LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN DO . AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE TO TAKE TODAY'S STANDARDS AND SPEEDS WITH TODAY'S TRAVELING PUBLIC INTO CONSIDERATION, AS WELL. AT THE BOARD'S DIRECTION TO GO BACK AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE SO FAR. 
          >> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I DID DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU MONTHS AGO. AT ONE TIME, DIDN'T HAVE ONE. 
          >> THAT WAS WHEN WE WERE FIRST LOOKING AT IT . YES, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING FOR OVER A YEAR, BUT ONCE WE HAVE THE AGREEMENT SIGNED, WE HAVE THE WARRANTY DATES SIGNED OFF AND I THINK THAT WAS MAY LAST YEAR . I HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD MUCH MORE 
          ABOUT IT UNTIL THE RECENT. >> IT IS FULL PRETTY MUCH RIGHT NOW AND AS PASTOR SAID, FOR TWO YEARS, THEY HAD BEEN THERE AND THERE HAS BEEN NO ISSUES. THEY ARE LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT FOR GOOD AND BECAUSE THERE WILL BE -- WE ARE LOOKING AT PEOPLE WHO COME DOWN AND ARE GOING HOME. WE WILL NOT HAVE PEOPLE PASSING THROUGH ANYMORE, BECAUSE THEY WILL USE THE CATHEDRAL PARKWAY AS A MEANS OF GETTING TO WHEREVER ELSE. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING. 
          THERE HAS TO BE. I NEED TWO OTHERS OF YOU TO HELP ME AND SEE IF THERE IS ANY OTHER OPTIONS . 
          >> MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY? ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS HOW YOU MENTIONED -- IN THE FUTURE PLAN , I USED TO LIVE THERE AND I USED TO LIVE IN ROLLING HILLS, SO I KNOW THE ROAD EXTREMELY WELL AND EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE I GO THAT WAY. IS THE FUTURE PLAN TO HAVE THE MEDIUM THE ENTIRE LENGTH? 
          >> YES, ESSENTIALLY THE SAME PROFILE CURRENTLY BUILT WEST OF THERE WILL CONTINUE EAST ALONG THAT CORRIDOR, THEN EVENTUALLY 
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ONCE YOU START GETTING DOWN TO THE ROUNDABOUT, THAT WILL OBVIOUSLY LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. ESSENTIALLY, WITH WHERE YOU HAVE A SIDEWALK ON THE OUTSIDE , THEN A FOUR FOOT BIKE LANE, TRAVELING, GRASS MEDIAN AND THE ENTRANCE ON THE OTHER SIDE. THERE WON'T BE ANY DITCHES BUT ALL OF THAT WILL BE IN THE STORM SEWER AND THEY NOW TAKE THE STORM WATER INSTEAD OF BEING IN THE DITCHES TO A STORM. 
          >> OKAY. MY QUESTION WOULD BE , YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER BURKE, I APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION. THE CHURCHES ARE A STAPLE OF OUR COMMUNITY AND IF YOU LOOK AT MOST OF THEM WHEN THEY LET IN AND OUT AND I GO ON FLEMING ISLAND AND WE OFFER HIRE AN OFF-DUTY DEPUTY TO STOP -- IS A VERY BIG CHURCH, AS WELL. I CAN SEE U-TURNS BEING PROBLEMATIC WITH THAT . I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT THE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS, BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH A TIGHT TURN WITH THE ENTRANCE ACROSS AND THE CHURCH, IS THERE A WAY TO REMOVE THAT PIECE INSTEAD OF HAVING TO BREAK IT TWICE? YOU BREAK IT FOR CROSS CREEK AND THERE IS NO MEDIAN UNTIL PAST RUSSELL? ARE WE SO FAR DOWN THE ROAD THAT YOU ARE TALKING -- I HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE AND I DON'T 
          KNOW WHAT THEY PLAYED. >> IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. IT KIND OF GOES BACK TO BURKE'S QUESTION. THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER . IF YOU LOOK, THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT -- WHY DO THEY DO NOTHING ? BE THAT THE WAY IT IS. YOU CAN GO FROM THAT TO A HALT . THE SKY IS THE LIMIT AND THE POCKETBOOK IS THE LIMIT. IF YOU WERE TO DO SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES, YOU WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL AREAS WITH THE GRASS MEDIAN AND NOW THEY WILL PAVE IT IMPERVIOUS AND INCREASING YOUR STORMWATER GRID ARE THE PARTS PIPES LARGE ENOUGH? THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN'T LOOK AT, BUT THAT WOULD PRETTY MUCH THROW EVERYTHING WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW AT A HALT. ARE THERE OTHER OPTIONS? THERE ARE ALWAYS DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO CONSIDER , SO DOES THAT ANSWER? 
          >> I APPRECIATE THAT. >> THAT IS WHEN THE COUNTY ENGINEER WOULD GET INVOLVED OR ENGAGED TO LOOK AT THE STOPPING DISTANCE BASED ON THE SPEED LIMIT PLANNED FOR THAT SECTION ROAD . IS THERE ANY FUTURE ADDITIONS HE MAY SEE COMING 
          INTO THAT SECTION ? >> ONE THING I WOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IS HOW IT'S NOT THE FACT OF THE CHURCH, BUT THE AMOUNT OF FLOW OF TRAFFIC , BUT I JUST SEE ON SUNDAY AT 8:00, THE TURN LANE LEAKING BACK , BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS TO MAKE A U-TURN AND THAT KIND OF THING. THE TOUGH PART OF OUR JOB AS WELL THE COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO GROW AND DEVELOP, WE CAN'T ALWAYS MAKE ADJUSTMENTS FOR EVERYTHING , BUT IN THIS CASE, I CAN SEE A REASON FOR AN ADJUSTMENT. BURKE, I SUPPORT YOU IN TERMS OF LOOKING TO SEE WHAT THE POTENTIAL OUTCOMES WOULD BE . MAYBE IT IS WHAT IT IS AND I APPRECIATE STAFFS WORK LOOKING AT IT ALREADY , BUT I'M YOU. 
          >> SOMEONE MENTIONED IT EARLIER AND LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY TO CONNECT THOSE PARKING LOTS TOGETHER WHERE YOU CAN STILL USE THAT MAIN ENTRANCE OFF OF SANDRIDGE TO THE WEST. THERE IS 
          OFF-SITE PROPERTY. >> I AGREE. I'M ALSO NOT SAYING HOW IT HAS TO BE THE CURRENT ENTRANCE IF THERE IS SOME KIND OF COMPROMISE WHERE CROSS CREEK WOULD ALLOW AND YOU MENTIONED THE LITTLE PLOT IN THE ENTRANCE. 
          >> BASICALLY, AS YOU ENTER CROSS CREEK FROM NORTH TO SOUTH AND MAYBE A FEW HUNDRED YARDS DOWN , THERE IS AN ACCESS POINT FOR THE BACKSIDE OF THE CHURCH TO ACTUALLY ACCESS THAT WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE A BASEBALL DIAMOND OR WHATEVER IS BACK THERE. IT LOOKS LIKE IT HAS BEEN CLEARED AND A DAISY WITH A TEMPORARY CHAIN ACROSS IT. THAT'S ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. I DON'T THINK WE ARE ALLOWED TO GO ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. 
          >> THE PROBLEM I'VE BEEN TOLD, THE BACK OF THEIR PROPERTY ALSO. EVERYBODY IS BACKWARDS TO GET OUT. 
          >> IS ACTUALLY A BREAK RIGHT AT THAT POINT. IT SETS ITSELF UP 
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WELL IF YOU WANT TO TURN THERE AND BACK OUT AND EXIT THROUGH THAT CROSS CREEK ENTRANCE WITH PLENTY OF ROOM FOR QUEUING UP 
          IN THAT AREA, AS WELL. >> 2:00 WAS THE FIRST I HAD HEARD ABOUT THIS . I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH YOU. I SUPPORT LOOKING AT SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I IMAGINE FROM PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE STAYED. I DON'T SEE MANY , BUT THEY MIGHT BE WILLING TO WORK WITH US, TOO, WITH TRAFFIC FLOW AND TO COMPROMISE AND COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. MY CHURCH PAYS OFF DUTY SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES . A LOT OF THEM DO NOW UNFORTUNATELY FOR THE SAFETY ASPECT, AS WELL AS TRAFFIC , BUT I AGREE. IN THIS SITUATION AND SINCE IT IS THEIR MAIN PARKING LOT, AS I RECALL, THERE IS NOT A LOT OF PARKING IN THAT WEST PARKING LOT. IT WOULD FILL UP QUICKLY, ESPECIALLY WITH MULTIPLE SERVICES. THAT IS A CONCERN. ON SUNDAYS, YOU CAN HAVE A LOT OF BACKUP. I UNDERSTAND , THE TRAFFIC FLOW IS DIFFERENT IN NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          I WOULD SUPPORT THAT, AS WELL. >> IS THERE ANYTHING? 
          >> WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? >> MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF THERE IS A COMPROMISE THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH IN CROSS CREEK WITH THE TWO PARKING LOTS , AVAILABLE PROPERTY . IF SOMEBODY CAN WORK 
          SOME MAGIC? >> AND DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD TO SAY, GO BACK AGAIN. WE CIRCLED UP WITH THE PASTOR AND TRUSTEES AND THE TEAM. THERE ARE FOUR OR FIVE WHO WORKED THE OTHER ORIGINALLY AND WE HAD IT PRETTY WELL HAMMERED OUT, BUT DIRECTION IS TO GO BACK AND TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE ACCESS AND WILL HAVE A ROAD ENGINEER WITH OUR DESIGNER AND THE CONTRACTOR 
          PLACING THINGS OUT OUR SIDE. >> WE HAVE TO REALIZE ANY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE A CHANGE ORDER AND AN ADDITIONAL. 
          >> FOUND AN EXTRA MILLION DOLLARS TONIGHT. JUST KIDDING. 
          >> PEOPLE WANT THAT. >> I HAVE A QUESTION AND COMMENT. DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON IT OR IS IT JUST CONSENSUS? 
          >> WE DO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND WE ARE IN A DISPUTE WITH THEM OVER AT THIS POINT, AS WELL. THIS WOULD BE AN ISSUE. OBVIOUSLY, WE WILL LOOK AT IT, BUT IT WILL COME AT 
          A COST. >> THE OTHER COMMENT IS CERTAINLY THAT I'M SUPPORTIVE OF IT. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NONE OF THE FINALISTS ARE ENGINEERS, SO WE NEED TO DEPEND ON OUR TRAFFIC OF ENGINEERS. I THINK WE ARE REASONABLE AND THE CHURCH UNDERSTANDS THAT . WHILE A COMPROMISE CAN BE ATTAINED, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE OVERRULING YOU ON ENGINEERING . 
          I THINK THAT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE, SO I COMPLETELY RESPECT YOUR PROFESSIONAL CREDENTIALS AND THE COUNTY MANAGER'S DIRECTION WITH YOU. I JUST WANT THAT ON THE RECORD. 
          >> GOING INSIDE MY DISTRICT, NOW THEY WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO TAKE A LEFT, SO I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT WE SHOULD GO DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE ON THIS. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SAID THAT MAY BE COMING BACK WITH THE COST OF WHAT THAT WOULD BE IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE IMPORTANT. 
          >> MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY? IT WAS YOUR LAST POINT THAT LED OUR CONVERSATIONS EARLIER TODAY . I DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT ANY OF THIS UNTIL THIS AFTERNOON. ALSO , YOUR CONCERN ABOUT DIFFERENCE TO PROFESSIONALS WAS OUR CONVERSATION . THAT IS WHY I ASKED RICHARD , TALK TO ME ABOUT MODELS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN THE CLAY COUNTY. WE DON'T HAVE ANY THAT ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN SANDRIDGE RUSSELL. I ASKED HIM WHAT THE STANDARD IS AND LEARNED THAT HE HAS QUITE A BIT 
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OF STANDARD THAT HE USES AS A REFERENCE POINT, BUT IT IS -- HE DOES HAVE DISCRETION IN MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, SO THAT IS WHAT I TOOK FROM OUR CONVERSATION. WE ARE OFTEN TALKING TO DEVELOPERS AND ASKING THEM TO BE GREAT COMMUNITY PARTNERS. I'M SEEING THIS REALLY NEAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNTY TO PARTNER WITH AN INSTITUTION AND SEEING WHAT OPTIONS THERE ARE. I FULLY SUPPORT EXPLORING THOSE OPTIONS . I WANTED TO KNOW MORE THAN ANYTHING IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE THIS CONFLICT OF PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE VALUE YOUR INSIGHT AND WHAT YOU BRING TO THE TABLE, BUT IF YOU ARE NOT BOUND TO A SPECIFIC STANDARD, I WANT TO FIND OUT HOW TO MEET THE NEED OF THE COMMUNITY. I APPRECIATE OUR CONVERSATION EARLIER TODAY ABOUT THIS. 
          >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ADD ON ANYTHING ELSE? THANKS, ED. 
          >> I WILL TAKE AWAY THE INITIATIVE TO DEVELOP OUR METRICS AND LOOK AT OPTIONS. I CAN'T SAY WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN A WEEK, BUT WE WILL REVIEW IT. 
          >> THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT. >> NOW, WE ARE AT 22 , CLAY 
          [22.  Clay County Strategic Plan (C. Everill)]
COUNTY STRATEGIC PLAN. CAROLINE? DON'T BE NERVOUS, CAROLYN. HER FIRST TIME. WE WILL BE GENTLE. 
          >> IS ONLY MY THIRD TIME. >> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. 
          CAROLINA EVERILL HERE AT CLAY COUNTY. FIRST, OUR STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE. NOW, I WILL GO THROUGH EACH SECTION OF OUR PLAN AND I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I'M NOT HIGHLIGHTING EVERY GOAL THAT WE HAVE IN OUR PLAN AND JUST A FEW OF THEM. IF THERE ARE ANY GOALS YOU WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO TOUCH ON AFTER MY PRESENTATION, I WILL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. FIRST, COMMUNITY HEALTH AND SAFETY. OUR GOAL TO INCREASE ACCESS TO AUTOMATED EXTERNAL DEFIBRILLATORS TO 250 LOCATIONS . OUR YEAR ONE TOTAL WAS 101. WITH THE PERCENTAGE OF THE GOAL THAT HAS BEEN REACHED IS 40.4%, SO WELL AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. NOW, OUR NEXT GOAL. PRIVATE AND NONPROFIT AGENCIES IN THE COUNTY CARE REFERRAL SYSTEM. OUR CURRENT TOTAL NUMBER OF AGENCIES IS 31 , SO THE PERCENTAGE OF THE GOAL THAT HAS BEEN REACHED IS 31%, SO WE ARE AGAIN WELL ON OUR WAY TO RECEIVING OUR FIVE-YEAR GOAL. THE LAST ONE IS , MAINTAIN A 90% RELEASE RATE . OUR DECEMBER RELEASE RATE WAS 94 AND OUR AVERAGE WAS 90%, SO WE DID REACH THAT GOAL THIS YEAR. FOR THE SAKE OF THE PUBLIC AND BEFORE THE ANIMAL PEOPLE COME AFTER US, A LOT OF TIMES, THE ONES THAT HAVE TO BE EUTHANIZED OR FOR INJURY OR ILLNESS AND NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T DEEM THEM 
          ADOPTABLE. >> THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. IF THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS, I CAN ALSO GO TO THE ANIMAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND GET ANY OTHER ANSWERS. THE NEXT SECTION IS ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. THE FIRST I WANT TO ATTRACT IS WITHIN THE COUNTY GENERATING OVERNIGHT STAYS . 
          OUR YEAR ONE TOTAL WAS 11. WE ARE ALREADY HALFWAY THROUGH ACCOMPLISHING THIS. THE NEXT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS TO REDUCE THE AVERAGE PERMIT TIME TO SEVEN DAYS AND COMMERCIAL RADIO TO 30. NOW, I HAVE RECORDED AS EIGHT DAYS FOR RESIDENTIAL AND 20 AS COMMERCIAL. I DID GO THROUGH AND TAKE THE AVERAGE FROM THE YEAR. OUR AVERAGE FOR RESIDENTIAL 5.42 DAYS AND 22.42 DAYS. THE NEXT SECTION IS INFRASTRUCTURE. THE FIRST I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT , INCREASE RIDERSHIP FOR TRANSPORTATION , JACKSONVILLE TRANSIT AUTHORITY BY 20% . THE TOTAL WAS 3959 AND OUR ANNUAL TOTAL WAS 44,834. ARE PERCENTAGE OF THE GOAL IS ALREADY 88.57%. THE NEXT, RESERVICE 100 MILES OF ROADWAYS. OUR YEAR ONE TOTAL WAS 36.60 MILES. THE GOAL THAT HAS BEEN REACHED, 36.6. NEXT, IMPROVE 20 MILES OF SIDEWALKS 
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AND/OR TRAILS. 81 POINT 32 AND TO IMPROVE STORMWATER SYSTEM. ARE YOUR ONE TOTAL WAS 4404. 
          THE PERCENTAGE OF THAT GOAL HAS BEEN REACHED, 40 POINT . NEXT, QUALITY AND BALANCE OF LIFE. SO, THE FIRST GOAL INCREASE THE NUMBER OF OVERALL COUNTY HOSTED PROGRAMS BY 20%. THE PERCENTAGE TOTAL WAS 250. THE FIVE YOUR GOAL 3889. NOW, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PROGRAMS IN YEAR ONE WAS 3332. NOW, ALSO, THE BOLD GOAL FOR THIS SECTION, INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS IN THE COUNTY EDUCATIONAL RECREATIONAL AND CULTURAL PROGRAMS BY 35%. THE DECEMBER TOTAL WAS 8762. THE FIVE-YEAR GOAL, 133,373. THE TOTAL PARTICIPANTS YEAR ONE, 128,353. 
          SO, WE ARE WELL, WELL, ON OUR WAY TO REACHING THOSE GOALS AS WELL. NOW, THE LAST SECTION, THE GOVERNANCE. THE FIRST GOAL THAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS INCREASED PARTICIPATION IN THE COUNTY EMERGENCY ALERTING SYSTEM. NOW, THE BASELINE PARTICIPATION WAS 33,068. THE TOTAL SUBSCRIBERS YOUR ONE, 36,326. THERE HASN'T BEEN A 9.8 -- INCREASE IN YEAR ONE. 
          THE LAST GOAL I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT , GENERATE $100 MILLION IN GRANT REVENUES. YEAR ONE TOTAL 48,883,785. SO, ALMOST HALFWAY THROUGH OUR FIVE-YEAR GOAL IN YEAR ONE. 
          LIKE I SAID AT THE BEGINNING, I DID NOT HIGHLIGHT EVERY SINGLE GOAL THAT WE HAVE IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. WE DID HAVE THAT WE WOULD EVALUATE OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AGAIN IN 2026 BUT SINCE WE ARE SO FAR ALONG IN SO MANY OF OUR GOALS WE ARE GOING TO LOOK TO HAVE A ONE YEAR EVALUATION TO SEE WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT WITH THESE GOALS BECAUSE AS WITH ANY STRATEGIC PLAN AS WE GO THEORY OUT IT YOU SEE, HEY, MAYBE WE NEED TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE HERE AND SUCH. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS IN THE WORKS. AND NOW, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS ABOUT ANYTHING HERE? 
          >> YES? >> THANK YOU. AEDES? 
          >> YES, SIR? >> ARE THEY GRANT FRIENDED -- 
          FUNDED? >> YES. 
          >> IS THIS AND ALL YOUR TYPING? WE COME UP WITH A NUMBER 250 I'M ALL SUSPECT WHEN YOU COME UP WITH AN EVEN NUMBER. 
          >> 400? >> I GUESS, HOW DO WE SPECIFY THE ACTUAL NUMBER REQUIRED AND HOW WE HAVE MULTIYEAR FUNDING 
          TO GET THIS. >> I KNOW WE DO HAVE A PROJECT ASSOCIATED WITH AEDS AND THERE IS ALSO GRANTS. 
          >> TROY WILL COME UP. ON THE GRANT, WE BOUGHT 400 OF THEM, AT LEAST, REMEMBER WITH IN THE AEDS HAS THE NARCAN. THAT IS ALSO IN THERE. SO, THIS IS ALSO OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR COMMUNITY TO PUT THEM IN PLACES. SO, WE PUT THEM IN THE PLACES THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS LOOKED AT IT OBVIOUSLY, IN THIS BUILDING AND THE FIRE STATIONS AND OTHERS AND WE HAVE BEEN PROMOTING TO THE COMMUNITY TO PUT THEM IN THEIR BUSINESSES, RIGHT? IS THE OTHER. THE BIGGEST THING TOO IS TO KNOW WHERE IT IS YOU MUST HAVE PULSE POINT ON THE PHONE AND THAT WILL INDICATE WHETHER SOMEONE IS IN CARDIAC ARREST. THE LET YOU KNOW, HEY, THE AEDS IS SO FAR AWAY FROM YOU, OPEN UP THE BOX AND FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTION TO SAVE A LIFE. SO, AS WE PURSUE THIS, WE ARE OPENING UP THAT APERTURE . IT'S NOT LIKE WE SAID, LIKE, RIGHT NOW WE PUT WHERE THE EASY SPOTS WERE, EASIER SPOTS WERE FIRST WITH THEM IN. WHAT WE CAN DO IS NOW STRATEGICALLY LOOK TO WHERE TO PUT THEM AS YOU LOOK AT, MAYBE, CONSENTING CIRCLES THROUGHOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY AND 
          TO PUT THOSE IN. >> THE LAST COMMENT I HAVE IS THEY LOOK LIKE AEDS FOR DUMMIES. VERY EASY TWO, HOWEVER, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THEM WALK THROUGH THE PROCESS. IS THERE A TRAINING PROGRAM FOR THEM? 
          >> I CAN ANSWER A FEW OF THOSE QUESTIONS. ONE, FUNDED OUT OF THE LSF FUNDS WHICH ARE PART OF THE SUBSTANCE ABUSE FUNDING 
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THROUGH THE STATE. SO, THIS IS SOME OF THE STATES MONEY THAT THEY HAND US. NOT YOUR SETTLEMENT MONEY THAT GOES INTO A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT. THIS IS A GRANT THROUGH LSF. WE BOUGHT APPROXIMATELY 400 AEDS TO BE DEPLOYED . WE BOUGHT THEM, NOW WE ARE DEPLOYING THEM. OUR RISK MANAGER WORKS HAND-IN-HAND WITH THE CHIEF'S TEAM AND PEER MEDICINE TO DEPLOY THESE OUT TO BUSINESSES COMMUNITY PARTNERS WHERE THE NEED IS. WE ARE RELYING ON PUBLIC SAFETY TO HELP FIND THOSE BUSINESSES SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, PUT THESE OUT IN MORE PLACES. NARCAN, AEDS, YES, THERE IS A TRAINING PROGRAM. 
          ABOUT THAT TRAINING PROGRAM. IT'S NOT PART OF US. EVERY COUNTY EMPLOYEE THAT COMES TO THE COUNTY DOORS, BCC, GETS TRAINED ON CPR, AED, NARCAN ADMINISTRATION AS PART OF THEIR ADMINISTRATION. WE HAVE ALSO PUT AEDS IN MOST OF OUR VEHICLES, NOT JUST OUR FRONT-LINE SAFETY VEHICLES ARE PUBLIC WORKS GUYS, PARKS AND REC GUYS, THAT WAVE SOMEBODY'S OUT ON THE FIELD AND SOMEONE HAPPENS TO HAVE A HEART ATTACK WE HAVE STAFF THERE TO HELP IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE AS THE CHIEF WILL TELL YOU, THAT'S WHAT IS IMPORTANT, HOW FAST CAN WE GET SOMEONE INTO THAT AED. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRAINING OR THE EFFECTIVENESS. 
          >> THE REASON I'M ASKING IS THERE'S A FEW PEOPLE WITH GRAY 
          HAIR AROUND HERE. >> THAT'S WHY WE MAKE SURE WE INSTALLED A NEW ONE IN THE BACK ROOM BACK THERE ON THE FOURTH 
          FLOOR. >> MADAM CHAIR, I'VE GOT A AED QUESTION. OF THE 400, HOW MANY HAVE BEEN DEPLOYED? 
          >> 101. >> OKAY. GOTCHA. 
          >> THAT'S NOT INCLUDING THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE VEHICLES, 
          BY THE WAY. >> WORKING PEOPLE IN THE 
          COMMUNITY MAKE THAT REQUEST? >> IF THEY WANT TO REACH OUT ERA -- EITHER PAIR MEDICINE OR DIRECTLY TO OUR RISK MANAGER. 
          EITHER ONE. THEY WORK HAND-IN-HAND. WE RECENTLY WORKED WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO REVISE THE AGREEMENTS. ORIGINALLY IT HAD TO BE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING. WE ARE FINDING RESISTANCE FOR SOME OF THE BUILDINGS -- BUSINESSES FOR PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T WANT THEM HANGING AROUND THEIR BUSINESSES. WE'VE LOOSEN THE RESTRICTIONS A LITTLE BIT AND WE'VE SEEN AN UPTICK ON WHO WANTS THEM IN THEIR BUSINESSES. IT GOES THROUGH AN EVALUATION PROCESS. WE DON'T WANT 40 OF THEM ALL IN ONE SQUARE MILE. TO THE COUNTY MANAGERS POINT, WE WANT TO SPREAD THEM AROUND THE COUNTY. THE GOAL ONLY FIRST STARTED WAS TO GET ONE IN EVERY SQUARE MILE OF POPULACE IN THE COUNTY. THAT WAS OUR GOAL. 
          >> NICE. THROUGH THE FUNDING IS THE BATTERY. THAT'S ONE THING WITH AEDS. EVENTUALLY AFTER A PLACE BATTERIES. WHAT'S THE PLAN? DOES THE FUNDING EXTEND? HOW DOES THAT WORK? 
          >> THERE'S TWO OPTIONS. IT'S PART OF RISK MANAGEMENT'S BUDGET TO PLACE THE BATTERIES. THAT'S WHERE IT SET YEAR AFTER YEAR FOR THE AEDS WE ALREADY HAD IN THE COUNTY. WE DO HAVE THE SETTLEMENT, WE HAVE 18 YEARS OF FUNDING COMING TO THE COUNTY AND TO THE STATE. SO, IF WE SAID WE WANT THE BATTERIES TO BE A PART OF WHAT WE FOUND WE COULD PAY FOR THAT OUT OF 
          THE SETTLEMENT MONEY. >> I HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU THAT I THINK WOULD BE PROBABLY MORE APPROPRIATE FOR HOW THEY CAN LET US KNOW . LISA GAVE ME A CHI-CHI. I DID NOT LOOK AT IT EARLIER. IF THEY WANT TO EMAIL ASKED CLAY AT CLAY COUNTY GOLF.COM. THEN IT WILL GET DIRECTED TO THE RIGHT STAFF. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN AN AED IN YOUR BUSINESS OR LOCATION, 
          MAYBE. >> JUST LET US KNOW. LISA AND LAUREN AND THEIR TEAM WILL GET IT TO US AND WE WILL MANAGE IT 
          FROM THERE. >> LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT STRIKES ME, DO WE HAVE ONE, LIKE, AT THE MIDDLEBURG CIVIC CENTER. WE DO. BUT DOES IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO HAVE IT, LIKE, OUTSIDE SO IF THEY HAD AN OUTDOOR ACTIVITY BUT THEN THAT COMES WITH OTHER 
          RISKS . >> COUNTY PARKS AND COUNTY FACILITIES WHERE PUTTING THEM OUTDOORS ON CONCESSION STANDS. 
          THEY ARE GOING TO BE MORE ACCESSIBLE 24/7. IT'S WHEN YOU START GETTING TO THOSE BUSINESSES A LIABILITY FOR THOSE BUSINESSES OF HAVING SOMETHING OUTSIDE. YOU KNOW, THEY, KIND OF, SHIED AWAY FROM ATTRACTING AN ADDITIONAL LIABILITY TO THEIR PROPERTY. THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED PUTING THEM IN THE BUSINESSES, THINGS LIKE THAT. I DO THINK WE HAVE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF GETTING THEM DEPLOYED OUT TO OUR COUNTY FACILITIES AND AS YOU KNOW THERE IS ONE OF THE BACK ROOM AS YOU COME UP THE ELEVATOR HERE. SO. 
          >> OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN OR ON THIS SPECIFICALLY. I HAD A COMMENT. SO, I THINK YOU, KIND OF, HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD, CAROLINE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GO BACK AT IT. SO, ONLY ONE OF THE GOALS THAT YOU PRESENTED TO US TONIGHT IS ANYWHERE NEAR 20% WHICH IS WHERE WE SHOULD BE WITH YEAR ONE. MOST ARE WAY ABOVE. I THINK PROBABLY SOME GOAL SETTERS GAVE THE COUNTY MANAGER SOME SLAMDUNK GOALS AND 
          [03:05:04]
THAT IS NOT THE POINT OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN, RIGHT? WE DO WANT TO HAVE SOME WINS. WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING OUR STAFF DOES BUT MAYBE IF THEY CAN RE-EVALUATE SOME OF THESE GOALS , ESPECIALLY THE BOLD GOALS, A BOLD GOAL SHOULD BE A REALLY BOLD GOAL. ALMOST NOT ACHIEVABLE. SO, IF WE COULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO REVIEW THEIR GOALS AND GET THE COUNTY MANAGER MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A STRETCH, I THINK I 
          WOULD BE HAPPIER. >> THE COUNTY MANAGER AND I HAD THIS CONVERSATION THE OTHER DAY. ORIGINALLY IN OUR ORIGINAL SCHEDULE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO COME BACK AND EVALUATE A STRATEGIC PLAN A YEAR 2 1/2 AND LOOK AT REDOING THE GOALS BUT I THINK WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING THAT AND BRING YOU BACK SOME NEW GOALS TO CLARIFY THE PLANTS. 
          >> DEPARTMENT HEADS WOULD DO WELL TO HAVE THEIR GOALS PREPARED WHEN YOU ALL START VISITING. 
          >> MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, JUST AS A TESTAMENT TO MARY AND THE LIBRARY SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE WITH REGARDS TO PROGRAMMING, AND THE EDUCATIONAL SIDE OF IT, THEY REALLY NOT THAT OUT OF THE PARK AND, I MEAN, JUST BASICALLY WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND. YES, MA'AM, WE WILL BE RE-EVALUATING. WE WILL COME BACK. AGAIN, THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME EVER WE HAVE HAD A STRATEGIC PLAN AND WE KNEW THERE WAS GOING TO BE SOME LESSONS LEARNED IN THAT I COULD TELL YOU WHEN YOU LOOK IN THE COUNTY MANAGER REPORT , LOOK THERE, YOU KNOW, I THINK, OVERALL SHE IS ONLY TOUCH THESE AND SHE HAS SHOWN THE ONES IN THAT. NOT THAT WE ARE TRYING TO HIDE A NEGATIVE ONE AT ALL, ONE THAT WAS RIGHT AT THE AVERAGE. 
          BUT THERE IS A LOT OF AREAS WHICH WE ARE CHECKING. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO GET OUT OF IT IS INSPECT WHAT YOU EXPECT. 
          WHAT I OWE YOU THE BOARD AND THIS COMMUNITY IS HOW TO GIVE A LITMUS AND A METRIC OR RUBRIC ON HOW WE ARE DOING IN THIS WAS WHERE WE ARE GETTING THERE. AND, OF COURSE, WE WILL TIGHTEN IT UP AND WE'LL GET SOME MORE NUMBERS ON SOME OF THESE. YES, 
          [23.  Commissioner Report (C. Everill)]
          MA'AM. >> ANY OTHERS? OKAY. I THINK I MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING IN MY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS BUT I HAD REALLY ASKED, I YOU KNOW, WE TOOK FINANCE AWAY WHICH NO ONE MISSES HAVING AN EXTRA MEETING BUT WE'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF PUTTING EVERYTHING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT CAN GO ON THERE. BUT I REALLY WAS MISSING THE PROJECT PIECE. SO, WE CHALLENGE STAFF TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT SO THEY TOOK A STAB AT IT AND BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS THINK OF THE INITIAL DRAFT OF THE COMMISSIONER REPORT BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO -- WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT IT TONIGHT THAN WE NORMALLY WILL BUT I DON'T KNOW, CAROLINE, WHAT YOU INTEND. YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING? HOW DO YOU WANT TO APPROACH THE 
          COMMISSIONER REPORT? >> I THINK APPROACHING IT BY GETTING Y'ALL'S COMMENTS FOR WHAT YOU WANT TO BE IN THE COMMISSIONER REPORT WITH WHAT MONTHLY MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE THAT YOU WANT ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. 
          THINGS LIKE THAT FOR THE ACTUAL PROJECT UPDATES. I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MAYBE DOING IT ALPHABETICALLY OR ORGANIZING IT BY DISTRICT OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE. JUST, KIND OF, GET YOUR FEEDBACK TO SEE WHAT YOU WANT MONTHLY, WHAT YOU WANT QUARTERLY, IS THERE ANY ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGES YOU WOULD LIKE, THINGS OF THAT 
          NATURE. >> I GUESS WE SHOULD START WITH IS THERE ANYBODY WHO DISLIKES THE COMMISSIONER REPORT AND THINKS THAT WE DON'T NEED IT? OKAY. IT WAS WELL RECEIVED. DID YOU ALL APPRECIATE HAVING THE KNOWLEDGE? OKAY. SO, FEEDBACK 
          FOR CAROLINE. >> I WILL START. I WOULD JUST SAY THAT , AND WE MET ON THIS AND SPOKE ON AS WELL, I THINK , LIKE, THE FUEL USAGE FOR ME IS A NONSTARTER. WE HAVE TO HAVE GAS TO DO SOME THINGS. PEOPLE OF GOT TO GET PLACES. BUT, YOU RECONVEYED SOME OF THE THINGS I BROUGHT UP AS FAR AS FOR THE ACTUAL PROJECTS IN THE BACK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM BY DISTRICT. MAYBE, HOWEVER, I'M PARTIAL TO DISTRICT ONE BUT MAYBE JUST AN ORDER OR WHATEVER SO THEY ARE EASIER TO DISTORT THAT WAY. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THE COMMISSION CHOOSES FOR IT TO BE A MONTHLY REPORT , CEOS COMPLETED CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY SO WE CAN SEE THAT GROWTH. ALSO BY DISTRICT, THAT WOULD BE USEFUL AS WELL. AND THEN, I HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT TOURISM IN TERMS OF WHEN WE HAVE TOURISM EVENTS MAY BE BRIEFING COMMISSIONERS ON ATTENDANT SO THEY KNOW WHAT IS WORKING, WHAT IS NOT, AND THEY HAVE SOME VISIBILITY THERE. 
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          THAT WOULD BE MY FEEDBACK. >> I THINK SOME OF THOSE REMIND THE PERMITS . MY DISTRICT GOT IT. TO KNOW THAT BY DISTRICT. I BET I'M GOING TO WIN ON THAT ONE. CASES FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT, HOW MANY ARE OPEN? ACTUALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ON THAT. BUT SOME OF THOSE WERE THE SAME . BUT, YEAH, I LOVED 
          IT. SO. I REALLY DID. >> FOR SURE. 
          >> I THINK WE OUTLINED MINE AT THE LAST MEETING. ARE YOU GOOD? WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO REITERATE? 
          >> WHICHEVER YOU WOULD PREFER. 
          >> I THINK YOU HAVE THE -- WE'VE ALREADY GONE OVER MOST 
          OF IT ANYWAY. >> THE ONLY COMMENTS I HAD FOR CAROLINE WOULD BE THE PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW PROJECT NUMBERS. I MEAN, I LOOK FOR TWO MINUTES, FIVE MINUTES TO FIND ONE THAT I WAS INTERESTED IN. DISTRICT, ALPHABETIZE. I DON'T CARE. WRITE NUMBERS DON'T WORK FOR ME . I NOTED THE SAME THING. IF YOU WILL. I MEAN, COME ON. THE ISSUE I HAVE IS IF THIS IS NOT CREATING WORK FOR THE STAFF, AND OTHER WORDS, IF WE CAN JUST PUSH A BUTTON AND COLLATE ALL THESE DATA POINTS, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM BUT IF WE ARE CREATING MORE WORK TO TELL ME HOW MANY GALLONS OF GAS WE USE LAST MONTH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT. WE GET AN UPDATE THAT'S CRITICAL TO DECISION-MAKING. FUEL USED IN THE TRUCKS, THAT'S TO ME NOT NEEDED FOR DECISION-MAKING. SO. BUT OTHERWISE IT'S I THINK MAYBE QUARTERLY, EVERY MONTH, THAT 
          WOULD BE NICE. I DON'T KNOW. >> I LIKE QUARTERLY. 
          >> WOULD THAT BE QUARTERLY FOR ALL OF THE INFORMATION CONTAINED WITHIN THE REPORT? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT 
          WANT MONTHLY? >> IN OUR CONVERSATION I WAS VERY CURIOUS FOR, I THINK MINE WOULD NEED TO BE MORE REGULARLY PRESENTED BUT AS FAR AS THE BOARD , I THINK QUARTERLY MAKES SENSE. BECAUSE WE GET THE MONTHLY UPDATES FROM ED AND THOSE ARE GREAT. THERE ONCE A MONTH AND WE GET A SNAPSHOT OF EVERYTHING THAT IS HAPPENING ACROSS THOSE PROJECTS. IT SEEMS TO WORK WELL BUT GIVEN THE MAGNITUDE OF HOW MANY THINGS WE HAVE GOT GOING ON TO DO THAT MONTHLY MIGHT BE A DAUNTING TASK. IS MY THOUGHT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERYONE ELSE -- 
          >> I DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT. TO LOOK AT SOMETHING THREE MONTHS IN ARREARS I WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE PROJECTS ARE TODAY. BECAUSE HERE'S WHERE I FIND MYSELF AND MY ASK FOR IT AND MAYBE IT IS JUST THE PROJECTS MONTHLY BUT WHEN I TALKED TO -- WHAT I DON'T CARE FOR GOING INTO MY FIFTH YEAR AS A COMMISSIONER IS WHEN A CONSTITUENT ASKS ME WHERE A PROJECT IS AND I HAVE TO SAY LET ME GO ASK STAFF. LET ME GO ASK THE COUNTY MANAGER. LIKE, AT LEAST IF WE HAVE LAST MONTH'S UPDATE WE KNOW WHERE WAS AT THE MOST FOUR WEEKS AGO. 
          YOU KNOW, I HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS LATELY ABOUT OUR FIRE STATION BUILDS, ABOUT SOME OF OUR BUDGET -- OTHER PROJECTS, THE ANIMAL SHELTER, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE. AND THEN I FEEL STUPID AND THEN THE CONVERSATION ENDS, RIGHT? SO, CONVERSATIONS ARE IN THE MOMENT AND, SO, IF YOU'RE TALKING TO CONSTITUENT AND ASK YOU A QUESTION YOU HAVE TO SAY LET ME GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT, IT JUST FEELS LIKE I HAVE NOT DONE MY HOMEWORK. WHEN I CAN'T ANTICIPATED. SO, THAT IS WHAT I 
          WANTED WITH THE PROJECT LIST. >> WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, THAT'S WHAT -- SO, SHE, FOR ME, I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY. I THINK THAT IS APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THAT DATA MONTHLY. HOWEVER WE WERE ALSO DISCUSSING WHAT THE BRIEF TO THE BOARD LOOKS LIKE. SO, FOR ME, BOTH OF THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. IT'S JUST PRESENTATION. 
          >> GOT IT. OKAY. SO, YOU ARE AN ADVOCATE FOR AN UPDATE AT THE BOARD MEETINGS QUARTERLY BUT THE MONTHLY REPORT. YOU WERE YOU ADVOCATING FOR ONLY A QUARTERLY REPORT? 
          >> THE PROJECTS WERE MORE PORTABLE. IMMEDIATE DATA, CONSTITUENTS, LIKE YOU SAY, THEY ARE ASKING US. WHAT'S THE PROGRESS ON 220? QUARTERLY ISN'T GOING TO BE GOOD ENOUGH. 
          YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO SAY EVEN MONTHLY MAY NOT BE GOOD ENOUGH. I INTERACT ALMOST ON A DAILY BASIS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WHERE THE PROJECT STANDS. ARE JOBS ARE 
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LEGISLATIVE. OKAY? I DON'T FEEL BAD WHEN I DON'T KNOW EVERY BIT AND PIECE OF THE COUNTY. I DON'T FEEL BAD AT ALL. I GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT I CAN GO TO TO GET THAT INFORMATION. SO, BUT YOU ARE RIGHT. IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THE DATA ON THE SPOT ON COMMAND BUT THAT IS A LOT TO 
          ASK. >> IT'S A BUCKET LIST THOUGH. 
          >> I HAD YOUR SAME CONCERNS, COMMISSIONER, ABOUT STAFF HAVING TO, LIKE, RUN THESE REPORTS AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN LUCKILY CAROLINE EXPLAINED, YOU KNOW, IT'S WORK BUT IT'S IN THE WORKDAY. THEY WERE REALLY GOOD SYSTEM TO PULL THESE TYPES OF THINGS BUT I WOULD ALSO AGREE. I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE A FAN OF QUARTERLY. I THINK MONTHLY IS PROBABLY MORE APPROPRIATE ESPECIALLY FOR CERTAIN THINGS LIKE IF WE DID INCLUDE SOMETHING WITH EVENTS IN THE EVENT HAPPENSIN JANUARY AND YOU DON'T GET THE DATA UNTIL MARCH, APRIL, IT'S HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. I WOULD AGREE MONTHLY TOO. 
          >> TO LOOK AT THE REPORT BUT A BRIEF TO THE BOARD MAY BE 
          QUARTERLY. >> CORRECT. 
          >> SO, ONE OTHER THING TOO, SOME OF THE ITEMS I ACTUALLY TOLD CAROLINE AND TROY I THOUGHT COULD BE REALLY BEFORE WE START OUR BUDGET PROCESS IN APRIL. SOME OF THEM LIKE THE FUEL CONSUMPTION I THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR BUDGET PURPOSES AIRED ONCE A YEAR A SNAPSHOT OF THAT IS FINE. I DON'T, YOU KNOW, MARY IS A GOOD EXAMPLE ABOUT SOME OF THE PROGRAMING IN THE LIBRARY. IF WE HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OR IT'S AN EVENT ABOUT ATTENDANCE OR THAT KIND OF THING, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE UPDATED BUT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE IMPORTANT FOR WHEN THEY START ASKING ABOUT HEADCOUNT AND WHY WE NEED TO INCREASE THINGS. YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, JUST THINGS, YOU KNOW, INTERESTING DATA POINTS THAT I DO ENJOY LOOKING AT BUT I DON'T WANT TO CREATE THAT EXTRA WORK. 
          >> MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS, SO, I THINK WHAT I'VE HEARD IS, SO, CAROLINE WILL PRODUCE THIS PACKET MONTHLY AND THEY GIVE IT TO YOU ALL AND THEN, MONTHLY, ED WILL COME IN AND BRIEF -- YOU WILL ALSO BRIEF CIP, OKAY? AND THAT IS WAS GOING TO HELP YOU WITH THIS PACKET IN THE BACK WHICH YOU WILL HAVE MONTHLY AND THEN, AT THAT TIME, THE OTHER FOR THAT ARE THERE THAT HAVE A MAJORITY OF THESE PROJECTS WILL BE IN THE AUDIENCE, WILL BE HERE, AND YOU CAN AT THAT TIME AS QUESTIONS AND EVEN ED EVEN VOLUNTEERED THAT HE COULD BRIEF THE TOP TWO OR WE GET AN IDEA OF WHICH ONES ARE ALLIGATORS 
          [24.  Discussion on Appropriations and Priorities for FY25-26 (M. Fearington)]
CLOSE TO THE CANOE AND WHAT'S GOING ON AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          IF THAT PLEASES THE BOARD THAT WAY I THINK WE CAN EXECUTE THAT AND THEN, FOR THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL BE MONTHLY WHERE YOU GET THESE PROJECTS. AND QUARTERLY, YOU KNOW, WE WILL HAVE THE QUARTERLY COMMISSION A REPORT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND WE CAN BRIEF THAT QUARTERLY. THAT PLEASES THE BOARD, WE ARE OFF TO THE RACES AND THEN IT WILL BE THE FIRST BCC MEETING OF THE MONTH. THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST THING THAT I THINK Y'ALL ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT. AND THAT'S OKAY THEN THAT'S HOW I 
          WILL EXECUTE. >> ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? OKAY. 
          GREAT. THANK YOU, CAROLINE. WE SURVIVED. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> NEXT, WE HAVE OUR TROOPER. 
          THANK YOU FOR STAYING WITH US. HOPEFULLY HER SPENDING THE NIGHT AND NOT DRIVING BACK TO TALLAHASSEE. 
          >> GOOD EVENING. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF OVER THE LAST MONTH OR SO TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT THE APPROPRIATION ASK SHOULD BE FOR THE UPCOMING SESSION. I THINK YOU REMEMBER WHEN I WAS BACK HERE. IT WAS ABOUT A MONTH AGO AND HAS BEEN REFERENCED EARLIER TONIGHT. THERE ARE SOME BUDGET ISSUES GOING ON WITH THE STATE THAT THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS FOR MULTIPLE REASONS AND, SO, I THINK MONEY IS VERY TIGHT AND I DO NOT BELIEVE THE DELEGATION NECESSARILY SAID THAT HERE. A LOT OF THE OTHER DELEGATION MEETINGS HAVE REALLY DRIVEN HOME AND A LOT OF THE POINTS HAVE BEEN CALLED UP. THIS REALLY IS A TIGHT YEAR. WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IS LOOK AT PROJECTS WITHIN THE COUNTY THAT HAD BEGUN TO PUSH THEM OVER THE TOP OR PRIORITY TYPE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED POSSIBLY PRIORITY TYPE PROJECTS. YOU CAN SEE THE LIST HERE. YOU CAN SEE SIX OF THEM LISTED OUT HERE. I WAS HERE FOR THE DELEGATION MEETING AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS A VERY LARGE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY THAT NEEDS TO BE CONTEMPLATED HERE IN THE COUNTY IN THE COMING YEARS. THE CHAIRWOMAN SPOKE ABOUT THE LOCATION IS BEING NARROWED DOWN. THAT IS OBVIOUSLY HOW THAT ONE MADE THE LIST. MEGAN IS GOING TO MAKE ME LOOK VERY GOOD AND SHE'S GOING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL HAVE ABOUT THE SPECIFICS ON ANY OF THOSE BUT I THINK MOST OF THESE ON HERE YOU ALL PROBABLY HAVE A 
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FAIRLY GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THEY ENTAIL AND WHAT THEY DO FOR THE COUNTY. THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE HAD ON OUR LIST BEFORE IN PREVIOUS YEARS ARE PRIORITY ISSUES THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON AND BE SUPPORTIVE OF AS THEY BEGIN MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS. ONE THING ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS, IT CONSTANTLY CHANGES. YOU COULD PUT TOP 100 ISSUES THAT YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON AND YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO MISS ABOUT 50 OF THEM THAT ARE GOING TO POP UP DURING THE SESSION BUT ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES THAT IS TAKING PLACE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, -- WAS A BIG ISSUE THE PAST TWO YEARS. WE BROUGHT A TEAM TO TALLAHASSEE AND MET WITH SOME OF THE LEADERS PREVIOUSLY AND, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE THEM IF THEY WERE GOING TO DO A CALL UP TO TRY TO CONSIDER THAT AS A PHASED-IN PROCESS. THAT ISSUE NEVER MADE IT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE. I'M UNSURE IF IT'S REALLY GOING TO COME BACK. IT CAME BACK TO SESSIONS IN A ROW. THE LIKELIHOOD IS THAT IT COULD AGAIN. CERTAINLY HAVE THAT ONE LISTED ON THEIR OF DEVELOPMENT TASK ISSUES HAVE COME UP BEFORE. I THINK IT WAS LAST SESSION IT WAS FIVE IDEAS BEING FLOATED AROUND TO TAKE YOUR COUNTY DOLLARS AND SEND IT TO VISIT FLORIDA. THAT DIED AS WELL. CERTAINLY LOOKING AT ANY TYPES OF CHANGES THEY COULD MAKE AND HOW THE COUNTY COULD UTILIZE THOSE DOLLARS. THOSE ARE THINGS WE NEED TO FOCUS ON DURING THE DELEGATION MEETING. 
          LAST TIME SENATOR BRADLEY SPOKE A LOT ABOUT THE SOLAR POWER ON AGRICULTURAL LANDS AND I TALKED WITH MARY LEE AND HER STAFF AT THE END OF LAST WEEK. THEY ARE STILL, KIND OF, FORMULATING WHAT THE SPECIFICS WILL BE WITHIN THAT BILL. I THINK THEY WILL CERTAINLY BE SUPPORTIVE OF HER AND MY SENSES IS TRYING TO GIVE THE COUNTY MORE OF A SEAT AT THE TABLE, IF YOU WILL, AND TRYING TO DETERMINE WHERE THOSE FACILITIES ARE WHEN YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THE RULES OF YOUR COUNTY AND THE AGRICULTURE THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE STATE IN GENERAL. SO, I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFICS ON THAT. THEY'RE STILL PULLING THAT BILL TOGETHER BUT CERTAINLY BEING SUPPORTIVE OF HER AND THEN ALSO AND THAT IS ALSO ON THE SOLAR ISSUE. CHAIRWOMAN MENTIONED THE SMALL COUNTY COALITION HAD THAT ON THEIR LIST AS WELL. THERE'S MULTIPLE FOLKS THAT ARE WANTING TO REVISIT THAT ISSUE. I THINK IT WAS THREE YEARS AGO THERE WERE SOME CHANGES THAT WERE MADE ONTO THAT. THE LAST ONE IS ALWAYS SUPPORT. OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS OR MORE IN TALLAHASSEE THE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN PREEMPTIVE ON VARIOUS ISSUES AND, SO, OBVIOUSLY, JUST CANNOT -- KEEPINGAN EYE AND AN EAR TO THE GROUND AS TO WHAT THOSE ISSUES MIGHT BE WHEN THEY POP UP AND BE ABLE TO REACT TO THOSE. AS I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING WE HAVE COMMITTEE WEEKS IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY, LEADING UP TO THE BEGINNING OF THE SESSION AND I THINK MEGAN AND YOUR STAFF , THEY HAVE THE NEW FORMS. I THINK Y'ALL ARE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION AT THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING ON THE THIS INDIVIDUAL LIST WITH THE GOAL OF THE FORMS ARE DUE ON VALENTINE'S DAY. CERTAINLY TRY TO GIVE THEM ABOUT A WEEK OR SO BECAUSE THERE IS ALWAYS SOME ISSUES ON THE FORMS EVEN WITH THE STAFF YOU HAVE. CERTAIN THINGS HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED AND WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO BE SCRAMBLING AND MISSING THAT DEADLINE OF THE 14TH OF FEBRUARY. WITH THAT, I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, IF THERE ARE ANY AND MEGAN CAN HELP ME ANSWER THEM. 
          >> QUESTIONS FOR MERCER? >> THANK YOU. I THOUGHT THE ISSUE WITH THE TAURUS DEVELOPMENT TASK -- TAX WAS THE INITIATIVE BY CERTAIN COUNTIES TO USE THOSE TAX MONIES TO INSTEAD OF MARKETING , TO USE IT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. TO SUPPORT PEOPLE. I MEAN, ORLANDO COULD STOP MARKETING TOMORROW MORNING AND THEY WOULD STILL HAVE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE COMING. 
          SO, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A ONE SIZE FITS ALL AND I'M NOT SURE IT DOES . I MEAN, ORLANDO, TOURISM MARKET AS A WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT THAN CLAY COUNTY. SO, -- 
          >> YOU'RE CORRECT. IT'S BEEN SEVERAL ISSUES AROUND THAT. I THINK THE ORANGE COUNTY ISSUE, I WAS TALKING WITH YOUR STAFF THE BEGINNING PART OF LAST WEEK, IT'S POPPING BACK UP AND THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME PART OF THEIR DELEGATION, SO WANTS TO CHANGE HOW THE COUNTY CAN USE THAT. I'M WORKING WITH THEM TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THE 
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COUNTY CLAY STANDS ON THAT AND IF WE NEED TO MAKE ANY CHANGES AT ALL. YOU ARE CORRECT. IT HAS BEEN MULTIPLE ISSUES, KIND OF, 
          AROUND THAT AS A WHOLE. >> THEY REALLY NEED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THEY DID WITH EITHER THE BLUE COUNTIES OUT IN THE PANHANDLE OR LIKE THEY DID FOR MONROE COUNTY WHERE THEY HAVE THAT OTHER TAX THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO USE BECAUSE IT CAME UP QUITE A BIT AT THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE MEETINGS. 
          AND EVEN WITHIN YOU HAVE ALL THESE COMMISSIONERS TOGETHER. 
          EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT ARGUMENT AND THE FRUSTRATING THING IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. SO, ORLANDO HAS OR THAT AREA, ORANGE COUNTY, OSCEOLA, WHATEVER. THEY HAVE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUE . I WOULD THINK BASED ON WHAT I SAW IN THE NEWS YESTERDAY ST. JOHN'S PROBABLY HAS THE SAME WITH THE MEDIAN HOME PRICE OF OVER $600,000 BUT IF THEY TAKE THAT MONEY FROM US FROM CLAY, THEY REALLY HURT THE OTHER 64, 63 COUNTIES, WHATEVER. Y'ALL KNOW I CAN DO THE MATH. THE ONCE YOU HAVE THIS ABILITY TO USE THE TEXT DIFFERENTLY, YOU KNOW, ONE TIME THERE WAS A MOVEMENT BY SOME OF THE SMALL COUNTIES TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT FOR DIFFERENT THINGS AS WELL. THAT DOESN'T BENEFIT US. WE ARE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE, AS I WOULD IMAGINE MOST OF THE STATE IS. SO, IF YOU CAN PROTECT US IN THAT WAY AND HAVE OUR DELEGATION PROTECT US AND THAT WAY I THINK THAT IS, KIND OF, WHAT WE ARE GOING FOR. 
          >> UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE A GREAT ELEVATION. -- DELEGATION. 
          >> OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I'VE HEARD OF THE PAST TWO TO FOUR YEARS OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA'S BUDGET IS SUPERSTRONG AND I'VE HEARD YOU SAY A COUPLE OF TIMES SINCE I'VE GOTTEN IN HERE THAT THE BUDGET IS GOING TO GET REALLY TIGHT. IS IT INFLATION? WHAT'S THE REASONING? 
          >> THERE IS SEVERAL THINGS. YOU HAD A LOT OF DOLLARS THAT FLOATED INTO THE STATE DUE TO COVID. YOU HAD A LOT OF FEDERAL DOLLARS THE CAME DOWN HERE THAT MADE THE BUDGET EVEN MORE -- EVEN WHEN WE HAD OUR PROJECTED REVENUE NEEDS WE ARE STILL BRINGING IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER EXPECTATION. WHAT IS HAPPENING IS HEALTHCARE IS A MAJOR DRIVER AND THE MEDICAID PART OF IT, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER BACK ON MY PRESENTATION BACK IN DECEMBER, 20% OF THE BUDGET. 
          SO, THOSE DOLLARS WERE REALLY SUCKING A LOT OF THE MONEY OUT OF THERE. THEY'RE ALL DEDICATED BEFORE YOU EVEN GET INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS. TRYING TO REMEMBER THE NUMBER. I THINK IT IS 60 OR SO PERCENT OF THE BUDGET IS ALREADY DEDICATED BEFORE YOU EVEN BEGIN. SO, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND REPRIORITIZE. I MEAN, THEY ARE STILL MONEY BUT THE LAST FEW YEARS WE HAVE BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BALANCE THE BUDGET AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT BUT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME HARD CHOICES AND NOT SPEND A WAY WHAT THEY HAVE BECAUSE THEY HAD THAT INFLUENCE AND MONEY THAT CAME FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SO, THAT'S PART OF THE REASON. AGAIN, THERE'S PLENTY OF MONEY. THEY JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY HOW TO GET THE BEST BANG FOR 
          THEIR BUCK. >> THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS? 
          >> I HAVE A COMMENT. WITH THE CATASTROPHE THAT IS ONGOING IN CALIFORNIA, THERE'S GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT LOOK AT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA TOO. BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO FOLLOW THAT MODEL THAT THEY HAVE THERE. AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A HUGE INVESTMENT IN SAFETY IN THE EVENT OF A -- I MEAN, WE HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH HURRICANES. FEMA AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS, I MEAN, THEIR OBJECTIVE IS TO CUT BACK . SO, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE CUTBACKS IN MY ESTIMATION AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL WHICH WILL FLOW THROUGH 
          TO US. SO, YEAH. >> AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION WITH ONE OF OUR DELEGATION MEMBERS AROUND THAT COUNTY MANAGER WAS PRESENT FOR IT TOO. CORRECT ME IF I QUOTE THIS WRONG, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE WILL BE THIS KIND OF CONVERSATION. HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE THIS KIND OF CONVERSATION GOING ON IN TALLAHASSEE THE SESSION. THEY NEED TO HAVE TOUGH CONVERSATIONS AND AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL WE CAN. PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP HAS SAID WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO DO THINGS THE WAY WE HAVE AND I THINK WE NEED TO AT THE STATE LEVEL TOO. ONE OF THE DELEGATION MEMBERS WAS TELLING ME THAT BY THE GOVERNOR SAYING, YOU KNOW, POWER HAS TO BE BACK ON, YOU KNOW, JUST AS FAST AS WE CAN GET IT BACK ON WHICH WE ALL AGREE WITH WHEN THERE'S A DISASTER WE ALL WANT OUR POWER TURNED BACK ON. THEY BROUGHT CREWS DOWN FROM CANADA AND SOME OTHER PLACES AT A VERY HIGH 
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COST AND, SO, NOW, TWO OF THE POWER COMPANIES WHICH ONE OF THEM OPERATES IN CLAY COUNTY FOR POWER AND LIGHT, I KNOW I THINK YOU HAVE SOME OF OUR LARGE PART THAT ARE IN FPL AND I KNOW I DO IN THE KINGSLEY LAKE AREA, THEY ARE LOOKING AT A $60 A MONTH INCREASE IN THEIR POWER BILLS IF THEIR PROPOSALS TO THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION GET APPROVED. SO, THIS DELEGATION MEMBER WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOME REALLY TOUGH DISCUSSIONS AT THAT LEVEL OF WHAT IS THE RIGHT AMOUNT? LIKE, YOU KNOW, AT WHAT POINT DOES GETTING YOUR POWER TURNED BACK ON AS FAST AS WE CAN WORTH THE FINANCIAL CRISIS THAT SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS AND A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE IN. SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT IS VERY COMPLICATED. 
          THEN YOU BRING IN THE WHOLE HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE WHICH IS PART OF THE PROBLEM IN CALIFORNIA. ONE OF THE REASONS I ASKED FOR THE COMMISSION REPORT CAME, NO, FLYING BACK IN MY FACE AT THE TIME THAT THIS HAPPENED WHEN I HEARD THEY HAD RESERVOIR PROJECTS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS THOUGHT THEY HAD FUNDED AND FOUR YEARS LATER THEY ARE NOT BUILT. NOW, I KNOW WE WOULD NOT HAVE THAT PROBLEM WITH OUR GREAT STAFF BUT IT IS NOT KEEPING UP WITH WHERE IS THIS MONEY BEING SPENT AND I THINK FLORIDA COULD BE IN THAT SAME -- NOW, THEY HAVE SAID WE'VE ENJOYED GREAT LEADERSHIP WITH OUR GOVERNOR FOR SIX YEARS. BUT IT IS WORTH LOOKING AT. LIKE, WE CAN'T GET 
          COMPLACENT . >> ABSOLUTELY. 
          >> AS AN EXAMPLE, IF THE GOAL IS TO HAVE POWER ON A MUCH SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME, YOU CAN DO THAT REAL EASILY BY BURYING YOUR POWER LINES, OKAY? BUT THAT IS VERY EXPENSIVE. SO, IT DEPENDS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO SHOOT FOR TO ENHANCE THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR PUBLIC. DEDICATED -- PREDICATED ON THE LACK OF THAT IN CALIFORNIA. I DON'T KNOW WHAT LESSONS HAVE BEEN LEARNED BUT WE COULD HAVE A VERY SIGNIFICANT BOGEY TO PAY TO IMPROVE OUR SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE. I DON'T KNOW. WHO KNOWS. 
          >> THAT'S PART OF THE EXPENSES. WE CAN ALL REMEMBER BACK 20 YEARS AGO . THE FOREST FIRES THAT WE HAD . 
          >> 1998. >> FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS I THINK IT WAS ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO THE DIVISION OF FORESTRY WAS UPGRADING THEIR FIREFIGHTING EQUIPMENT. WE HAVE THIS ISSUE THAT WE DO WITH HURRICANES AND WE POTENTIALLY DEAL WITH FOREST FIRES IN THE SOUTH WE ARE USED TO CONTROLLED BURNING AND BEATING BRUSH BACK AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND WE HAVE BEEN FAIRLY LUCKY. WE CAN ONLY CONTROL HURRICANES TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. WE ACTUALLY, QUITE HONESTLY DODGED A BULLET WHICH IS SCARY TO SAY THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF HOW DEVASTATING THE SURGE WAS IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA BUT GOING THROUGH TAYLOR COUNTY AND THOSE COUNTY, I MEAN, IT COULD'VE BEEN MUCH WORSE, 
          CLEARLY. >> OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MERCER? ANYONE HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON EITHER , I GUESS, OUR WORDING PRIORITIES OR ON OUR APPROPRIATION REQUESTS? THE ONE THAT I WILL SPEAK TO, I'LL SPEAK TO TWO ON THE APPROPRIATION REQUEST ONE IS THE COUNTY ROAD 217 BRIDGE. IT IS FUNDED IN THE 10 YEAR PLAN AT 2029 2030 FOR FDO T. WE WOULD LIKE TO PULL IT IN FURTHER IF WE COULD GET AN APPROPRIATION. IT IS ENOUGH. THERE IS A BUMP ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT BRIDGE. ENOUGH THAT I HAVE CONSTITUENTS WHO HAVE REPORTED TO ME IT KNOCKED THEIR TRAILER OFF THEIR TRAILER HITCH. THEY NOW HAVE TO LOCK THEIR TRAILER HITCH ON CLOSER. 
          I DON'T PUT TRAILER HITCHES ON SO MAYBE SOME OF YOU WILL SAY THEY DIDN'T HAVE IT ON CORRECTLY. I'VE NO IDEA. I'M NOT ALLOWED TO EVEN DRIVE THE VEHICLE WITH THE BOAT TRAILER ON THERE. SO, THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE FOR ME BUT THAT IS A SAFETY ISSUE AND THE BIGGER THING WITH THAT BRIDGES IT IS NOT EVEN RATED FOR A SCHOOL BUS OR IT IS READY FOR SCHOOL BUS. 
          THAT'S ABOUT THE MOST WEIGHT THEY CAN GO ON AND D.O.T. 
          FREQUENTLY USES IT AS A BYPASS WHEN THERE IS A 301 ACCIDENT WICH ARE PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS CAN TELL US IS QUITE OFTEN. 
          THAT ONE IS IMPORTANT. IN ADDITION, 217, IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE COUNTY ROAD 217 AS IT GOES FROM 218 IN MIDDLEBURG AND CONNECTS TO DUVAL COUNTY OVER IN THE NORMANDY AREA. 
          YEAH, SO, IT CONNECTS US IN THAT WAY WHICH I KNOW SOME OF YOU ARE CONSTITUENTS. WHEN THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY THE TOLLS ON THE FIRST COAST EXCESS BREAK -- EXPRESSWAY. WE HAVE SOME MONEY THAT WE HAD SET ASIDE FOUR YEARS AGO AND TROY HAS THAT IN 
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OUR CIP BUT I THINK IT IS, KIND OF, A PLACEHOLDER IN THERE BECAUSE WE WILL BE SESSION WILL BE IN SESSION BEFORE RICHARD GETS THE WORD BACK FROM THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND DEP OF OUR PERMIT IS ISSUED AND WE THINK THERE WILL BE ENOUGH LUMBER OR TIMBER THERE THAT IT COULD BE A WASH BUT JUST IN CASE THERE IS AN ISSUE, THAT IS WHY THAT IS THERE AND BECAUSE THE DEP HAS A REQUIREMENT THAT IF MONEY IS MADE, ON SOVEREIGN LAND, THAT THEY TAKE A CUT OF IT. 
          >> TWO THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY ON BOTH POSITIONS. ON 217, THE MOST IMPORTANT DOCUMENT ON THESE APPROPRIATIONS IS THE FORM THAT WE FILL OUT AND IT HIGHLIGHTED THE SAFETY CONCERNS. WELL IT DIDN'T MAKE IT ON THIS BULLET RIGHT HERE, IT SPEAKS SPECIFICALLY TO THE SAFETY ISSUES AND THERE ARE CERTAIN STAFFERS AND DELEGATIONS OFFICE THAT ARE QUITE AWARE OF THAT AS WELL AND, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE LAKE RESTORATION, THE WHOLE KEY IS GET THE FOREMAN. IF WE DON'T NEED TO PUSH FOR IT, THEN WE HAVEN'T LOST ANYTHING BUT WE CERTAINLY WOULD NOT WANT TO PUT IT ON THEIR AND THEN HE FIND OUT MARCH 1 IT'S IMPOSSIBLE AT THAT POINT. 
          >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? THANK YOU, 
          [25.  Discussion of November 12, 2024 Approval  of Resolution of No-Objection to Feed Mill Stewardship District (C. Grimm)]
          MERCER. WE APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU, ALL. 
          >> SORRY TO KEEP SO LONG. SAFE TRAVELS. 
          >> OKAY. OKAY, SO, ITEM NUMBER 25 IS THE DISCUSSION. ON NOVEMBER 12, 2024 WHICH WAS COMMISSIONERS LAST MEETING WE HAD AN ITEM THAT WAS APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION OF NO OBJECTION TO THE FEED MILL STEWARDSHIP DISTRICT. I HAD IN SOME OF MINE AND COUNTY MANAGERS CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATIONS, I WAS ASKED SOME QUESTIONS THAT FRANKLY I COULD NOT ANSWER ABOUT WHAT WE WERE THINKING WHEN WE APPROVE THIS AND AT THE TIME I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS WAS A LETTER OF NO OBJECTION AND THAT IT WAS MORE OF A MINISTERIAL VOTE THAT IT REALLY, KIND OF, DID NOT APPLY TO US AND THE COUNTY, MORE LIKE THE LAKE ASBURY DAM OR THE SPECIAL DISTRICT , KIND OF, THAT KIND OF THING THAT IT REALLY DID NOT HAVE AS MUCH TO DO WITH US. SO, UPON LOOKING INTO IT FURTHER, I REALIZE THAT THAT, KIND OF, WASN'T REALLY WHAT IT WAS. SO, I WANTED THERE TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DISCUSS IT. COURTNEY AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT AND WE HAVE, KIND OF, TALKED ABOUT GOING FORWARD WE WON'THAVE THESE, KIND OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE NEVER DEALT WITH BEFORE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. THAT WAS A REALLY BUSY AGENDA. IT WAS THE LAST MEETING AND WE HAD, AS I REMEMBER, ON A DIFFERENT ISSUE A ROOM FULL OF RESIDENTS, OF CONSTITUENTS. SO, MAYBE NONE OF YOU HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS ABOUT THIS. MAYBE YOU ARE FINE WITH YOUR VOTE ON IT. YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON IT. I'M NOT BRINGING IT UP IN THE MANNER THAT I'M LOOKING FOR US TO REVOTE ON IT UNLESS THAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD. I'M LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE OUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND UNDERSTAND FULLY EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS THAT WE ARE COMMITTING TO BECAUSE IT IS DIFFERENT THAN YOUR NORMAL CDD BUT, AT ANY RATE, I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION ON THAT NOTE. 
          >> I'VE GOT A QUESTION. BECAUSE I WAS NOT HERE. CAN YOU ELABORATE MORE ON THE CONCERN OF THE DELEGATION MEMBER AS TO YOU MENTIONED , YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE VOTING FOR . 
          >> SO, THIS IS SOMETHING NEW . RELATIVELY NEW TO THE STATE. 
          SINCE 2017, '18, THIS IS NEW. IT HAS NOT BEEN DONE IN CLAY COUNTY AT ALL. AND, THERE ARE ABOUT HALF OF THE ONES THAT WERE DONE WHICH ARE THE OLDER VERSIONS OF THIS OR ARE MUCH LARGER LAND ACREAGE. AND, SO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, IN THOSE INSTANCES, IT MADE SENSE FROM THAT ASPECT AND I THINK THAT THE OTHER CONCERN IS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE STATE LEVEL THERE ARE SOME MOEMENTS TOO, IF YOU WILL, AVERT THE CURRENT CDD STATUTES AND CHANGE THINGS ENOUGH TO POTENTIALLY ALLOW FOR THINGS LIKE FEES IN PERPETUITY AND THAT, KIND OF, 
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THING. SO, I THINK THOSE WERE SOME OF THE CONCERNS. ARE YOU REALLY SURE THAT YOU ARE OKAY WITH WHAT YOU ASKED FOR AND MY RESPONSE WAS, WELL, WE DID NOT ASK FOR. I WAS GIVEN THE IMPRESSION AND WE HAD A CONSENT AGENDA AND THE REASON I DID NOT PULL IT WAS, KIND OF, THIS IS, KIND OF, WHAT THE DELEGATION WANTED AND THAT IS NOT WHAT THE DELEGATION WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION. WE WERE PUTTING IT IN FRONT OF THEM BECAUSE IT WAS WHAT WE WANTED AND IT WASN'T ADVOCATED ON THIS. IN FACT, WE NEVER DISCUSSED IT. IT WAS ON CONSENT. SO, THAT IS THE HISTORY OF HOW I FELT VERY UNCOMFORTABLE. LIKE, I'LL JUST BE HONEST WITH YOU. I FELT STUPID. I WAS LIKE WHAT DID I JUST AGREE TO AND IS THERE A WAY OUT? AND THANK YOU SHE REASSURED ME THERE IS ALWAYS A WAY OUT. AND, SO, I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE. AGAIN, I HAVE ONE CBD IN MY DISTRICT. THIS IS NOT MOST LIKELY ANYTHING THAT I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT. YOU KNOW, BASED ON LAND ALONE THERE COULD BE AT LEAST THREE OF THESE IF THEY CAME BACK THAT WAY. SO, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. 
          MAYBE I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO JUST DIDN'T REALLY REALIZE WHAT WE WERE VOTING ON THAT NIGHT. 
          >> FEED MILL IS IN COMMISSIONER MARKS DISTRICT? IS THAT RIGHT? 
          >> THEY NAMED IT DIFFERENT TO DIFFERENTIATE. 
          >> YEAH. SO, AS FAR AS CDD'S ARE CONCERNED, I THINK AT LEAST IN RECENT DISCUSSIONS I'VE BEEN PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD ABOUT NOT BEING A HUGE FAN OF THEM AS BEING THE PRIMARY MODE OF GOVERNANCE OVER CERTAIN PROPERTIES. I KNOW WE HAVE HAD PRESENTATIONS HERE THAT OUTLINE WHAT ARE ALL OF THE BENEFITS. 
          OF COURSE, MY BIGGEST CONCERN AS IT RELATES TO CDD IS THAT I DON'T THINK IT IS THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO FACILITATE MAKING FUNDING EASIER FOR DEVELOPERS. IT'S JUST WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO. THIS PROJECT IS LARGE AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE SEVEN OR EIGHT BOND INITIATIVES THAT ARE OUTLINED IN IT. IT SPEAKS TO THE CORE OF MY CONCERNS ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT LIKE CDS IN GENERAL BUT I KNOW THEIR PURPOSE IS FOR THEM IN OUR CONVERSATION EARLIER TODAY WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE STEWARDSHIP DISTRICT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE VOLUME, THE LANDMASS INVOLVED AND THEN , IRONICALLY ENOUGH, MY DISTRICT WAS IMPLICATED BECAUSE WE HAVE THE TWO CDD IMPLICATIONS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN TRUE IF THE STEWARDSHIP DISTRICT HAD NOT BEEN CREATED. 
          THE ILLUSTRATION WAS THAT THERE IS DUELING OR MAY BE COMPETING INTERESTS BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE THE TWO CDD'S , DEPENDING ON WHERE IT IS, AND I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW I GET IT ALL THE TIME, PHASE ONE OF OAK LEAF IN PHASE TWO OF OAK LEAF ARE CONSTANTLY -- THERE IS A RIVALRY THERE SOMETIMES AS IT RELATES TO WHICH PART OF THE COMMUNITY WAS BUILT LATER IN TIME BUT IT IS NOT ALWAYS A CONVERSATION THAT WAS PITCHED TO ME TODAY. WE HAD TO WALK IT BACK A LITTLE BIT AS TO THE FEE SPLITTING CONCERNING RIGHT-OF-WAY. THE COUNTY IS NOT GOING TO ASSUME THOSE COSTS AND, ARGUABLY ENOUGH, NOBODY REALLY WANTS TO HAVE TO PAY IT AND WHEN YOU'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT HAD SOME AGREEMENT WAY BACK WHEN AND NOW THEY CAN'T LOCATE THAT AGREEMENT , THEN, EVERYBODY HAS TO COME BACK TO THE TABLE AND BE GROWN-UPS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO SHARE OR BEAR THE COSTS OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS AND MY DISTRICT THE CONVERSATION TURNED ON LANDSCAPING ON OAK LEAF PLANTATION PARKWAY AND EAGLE LANDING IS NEIGHBORED TO THE MIDDLE DISTRICT AND OPTED IN. 
          SO LONG AS CERTAIN PARAMETERS WERE MET. SO, FOR THE STEWARDSHIP DISTRICT, I AFFECTIONATELY CALLED IT A CDD ON STEROIDS AND IT WASN'T RECEIVED VERY WELL BUT THAT IS IN ESSENCE WHAT IT IS BECAUSE OF THE LANDMASS AND I THINK THAT YOU ARE FACILITATING CONTINUITY AND I THINK THEY'RE SELLING POINT WAS WHAT YOU SHARE WITH THE FIRST HOMEOWNER ON THE PROPERTY IS THE EXACT SAME RHETORIC YOU'D BE SHARING WITH THE LAST HOMEOWNER. THEY HAVE GOT THEIR STRENGTHS. 
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HOWEVER, MY -- I LIKE FOR DISTRICT TWO HAVE OPTIONS AND A CDD IS BUT ONE OF THE WAYS THAT YOU CAN OFFER YOUR CONSTITUENTS TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE GETTING INTO AND THE LAST CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD ABOUT CDD SPECIFICALLY WAS THERE IS THIS NOTICE REQUIREMENT THAT EVERYBODY WHO IS BUYING INTO THE CDD HAS TO BE APPRISED OF WHAT IS GOING ON. I GET THAT. 
          BUT WE MAKE THAT DECISION BEFORE THEY EVER GET TO -- OR WE ENCUMBER THAT LAND FAR LONG IN THE PRESENCE FOR THE FUTURE HOMEOWNER. SO, REALLY, WE ARE DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE MAKING CERTAIN OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO OUR DISTRICTS. 
          STEWARDSHIP IS, LIKE I SAID, IT'S -- IT BOILS DOWN TO LANDMASS AND I ASKED A SIMILAR QUESTION, WHY IS THE DELEGATION -- WHY ARE THEY ASKING US TO REVISIT THIS OR ASKING US WHETHER WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING? AND IT BOILS DOWN TO, IN MY ESTIMATION, HOW MUCH LATITUDE ARE YOU GIVING THE STATE VERSUS KEEPING AT HOME AND IT'S FUNNY, MERCER LEFT BUT ONE OF THE THINGS, THE LAST THING WE SAID TO HIM WAS, HEY, CAN YOU MAKE SURE WE PRESERVE HOME RULE AND NOW, HERE WE ARE SIGNING AWAY WHAT LATITUDE WE HAVE BY MOVING FORWARD POTENTIALLY WITH THE STEWARDSHIP DISTRICT AND GIVING THAT BACK TO THE STATE. SO, I MEAN, THERE ARE PLUS AND MINUSES ON BOTH SIDES BUT I THINK WE -- I WASN'T AS FAMILIAR AND I'M STILL NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH STEWARDSHIP DISTRICTS. NOT THAT YOU WEREN'T HELPFUL, BUT THERE ARE VERY MANY OF THEM IN THE STATE. SO, WE ARE LOOKING TO EMBARK ON SOMETHING VERY UNIQUE AND ARGUABLY WE ARE TRYING TO DO IT UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE ONES THAT 
          HAD PRECEDED THIS PROJECT. >> AND I WILL SAY, IN THAT NO, THE ABILITY TO BE A CHARTER COUNTY, YOU KNOW, WAS NEW. WHEN CLAY COUNTY DID IT IT WAS SOLD AS THE BEST THING GOING. OUT OF 67 THERE IS LIKE TWENTYSOMETHING CHARTER COUNTIES AND MOST OF THEM ARE THE BIG ONES. SO, SOME COULD ARGUE IS IT REALLY SOMETHING YOU WANT TO JUMP INTO WITHOUT EVERYBODY BEING A PART OF BUT I KNOW THAT THE ATTORNEY WOULD TELL ME THAT THAT IS NOT APPLES TO APPLES. THIS ATTORNEY WOULD ALSO TELL ME IT IS NOT APPLES TO APPLES. BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION. 
          >> I GOT A QUESTION. FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, THE COMMISSIONER ALLUDED TO STATE CONTROL. IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? LIKE, HOW IS IT STATE CONTROL? WHAT DOES THE STATE HAVE CONTROL OVER? OTHER THEN BEING IN THE BOND 
          PROCESS. >> IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IF IT IS A CDD, THEN WE, YOU, ARE THE ENTITY THAT CREATES THE LEGISLATION. YOU ADOPT THE ORDINANCE THAT CREATES THE CDD. IN THIS INSTANCE THE CREATION IS A BILL THAT THE LEGISLATURE CREATES THE STEWARDSHIP DISTRICT BUT , KATIE IS PROBABLY A BETTER PERSON TO EXPLAIN THIS BUT STILL, ONCE WE CREATED HER ONCE THE LEGISLATURE CREATES THE DISTRICT, THEY ARE THEIR OWN MINICITY AND THEIR OWN GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY AND THEY THEN CONTROL THEMSELVES. 
          >> RIGHT. >> TO WHAT EXTENT? I MEAN, LIKE, CAN THEY MAKE DEVELOPMENT CODE? CAN THEY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I FOUND OUT THE HARD WAY BY ASKING KATIE THE QUESTION BECAUSE I ASKED ABOUT -- I KNOW THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASSESS THEMSELVES WITH ADDITIONAL TAXES TO WHICH KATIE TOLD ME SO DO CDD AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. SHE SAID I DIDN'T KNOW IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT USED AND I SAID OF COURSE. WHY WOULD SOMEONE CHOOSE TO RAISE THEIR OWN TAXES MORE EXCEPT WE SAW THAT IN LAKE AS BARRY AND IT HASN'T GONE VERY WELL. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO INCREASE -- THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASSESS THEMSELVES MORE MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR DAMS AND NOW MY UNDERSTANDING IS TWO OR THREE YEARS LATER THEY HAVEN'T DONE 
          WHAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD DO. >> 
          >> WHAT DO THEY HAVE A LEGAL ABILITY TO DO AS THEIR OWN 
          DISTRICT? >> KATIE, WOULD YOU ALSO EXPOUND ON THE DEVELOPER HAVING CONTROL OVER THAT PROJECT LONGER UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, PLEASE. 
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          >> SURE. SO, STARTING WITH THE FIRST ISSUE. THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONTROL THE ACQUISITION , CONSTRUCTION, OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THEIR BOUNDARIES. THEY PAY FOR THESE THINGS WITH THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS AND THEN THEY REPAY THE BONDS VIA THE LEVY OF SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS. THAT IS THE TRADITIONAL CDD AND THAT'S HOW IT OPERATES. THE CDD WILL NEVER HAVE THE ABILITY TO USURP THE COUNTY'S CONTROL WHEN IT COMES TO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ISSUES, ZONING OR ENTITLEMENT ISSUES, WE HAVE ZERO AUTHORITY IN THOSE MATTERS. WE DO ADOPT OUR OWN BUDGET AND WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REPORTING THOSE FINDINGS TO THE JOINT LEGISLATIVE AUDIT COMMITTEE AND THE AUDITOR GENERAL. WE OPERATE FUNCTIONALLY AS AN INDEPENDENT SPECIAL DISTRICT THAT WAY. ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC AREAS OF CONCERN? 
          >> YOU SAID THE CDD? >> BOTH THE CDD AND THE STEWARDSHIP DISTRICT. SAME WAY. 
          >> THEY DO NOT GIVE ANY LEGAL PRIVILEGES MEANING THAT THE CDD 
          ARE EXCEPTIONS? >> NO. 
          >> EXEMPTIONS FROM CODE? >> NO. NONE OF THAT. ABSOLUTELY NOT. THE REGULATION STAYS IN PLACE AND IS UNAFFECTED. 
          CORRECT. >> FOR SPECIAL ASSESSMENT, IF IT IS NOT PAID, THEY HAVE THAT LEGAL 
          >> IT'S TRUE. TYPICALLY THAT WOULD ONLY HAPPEN IF A LARGE DEVELOPER WENT INTO DEFAULT. WHAT HAPPENS ON A HOMEOWNER IS THAT WE COLLECT VIA THE UNIFORM METHOD AND THE TAX BILL. IF THEY DON'T PAY THE COUNTY TAX BILL, THEN OUR ASSESSMENTS RUN THROUGH THE PROCESS OF COLLECTION JUST LIKE THE 
          COUNTY'S TAXES. >> COULD YOU ADDRESS AND THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. THE DEVELOPER MAINTAINS CONTROL OF THE CDD BOARD OR STEWARDSHIP BOARD A LITTLE BIT LONGER. 
          >> THAT IS CORRECT. LET ME SEE. I SAW SOMEONE ELSE. I THINK THIS GRAPHIC BEST ILLUSTRATES IT. IT CONFLICTS THE SCHEDULES DOWN IN THE BOTTOM AND GREEN AND THE TURNOVERS. CDD'S TURNOVER AT THE POINT THAT TWO CONDITIONS ARE MET. THE FIRST WOULD BE SIX YEARS AND THE SECOND IS 250 REGISTERED VOTERS. IT WILL NOT HAPPEN BEFORE THAT. ONCE THAT PROCESS IS TRIGGERED THAN THE FIRST TWO TURNOVER AND THEN THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE, TWO YEARS LATER, TWO MORE TURNOVER AND THAT'S AT WHAT POINT THE CDD CONTROL TURNS OVER AND FALLS TO RESIDENTS. THAT IS EARMARKED AS 2032. THE STEWARDSHIP SELECTION PROCESS WOULD BE AGAIN THROUGH THE GENERAL ELECTION WITH THE COUNTY BUT BASED ON REGISTERED VOTER THRESHOLDS RESIDING WITHIN THE STEWARDSHIP DISTRICTS BOUNDARIES. SO, IT WOULD TURN OVER ONE AT A TIME BASED ON THE THRESHOLDS OF 3500 REGISTERED VOTERS, 5000 REGISTERED VOTERS, 6000, 7000, AND 8000. SO, ONCE THOSE BENCHMARKS ARE PASSED, THE SEATS CHANGE. THESE NUMBERS ARE NOT LOCKED IN. THEY CAN MOVE UP IF CAPACITY OR ABSORPTION IS GREATER THAN ANTICIPATED. THEY COULD POTENTIALLY MOVE BACK AS WELL. WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT THIS PROJECT IS TOO LARGE FOR A SINGLE CDD TO BE COMPLETED AND WE HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH COUNTY STAFF. SO, IN THE INSTANCE THAT WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO TWO CDD'S TO FULLY CAPTURE THE DEVELOPMENT SCALE WHICH IS ANTICIPATED TO BE 12 YEARS THEN WE WOULD POINT YOU TO THE SECOND COLUMN ON THE RIGHT THAT IDENTIFIES SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE HAD WITH TWO SISTER CDD'S AND THE COMMISSIONER ALLUDED TO SOME OF THESE ISSUES AS WELL. ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH SEPARATE AND INDIVIDUAL GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES. THEY EACH HAVE THEIR OWN ADMINISTRATIVE COST. THEIR OWN STAFF AND THEIR OWN SET OF ELECTED OFFICIALS. YOU'RE IMMEDIATELY DOUBLING THE COSTS THAT ARE LEVIED AGAINST THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES. THEN, WE ALSO HAVE THE CONFUSION WHERE A RESIDENT UNDERSTANDS THEY ARE ENTITLED TO ACCESS AMENITIES BUT THEY DON'T KNOW WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING, OPERATING OR CONTROLLING THEM. THERE IS A CHALLENGE AS TO WHO IS ON POINT FROM A RESIDENCE PERSPECTIVE AS COMMISSIONER COMPARED. IT'S VERY LATE. AT REFERENCE WE DO SOMETIMES RUN INTO SITUATINS WHERE YOU HAVE TO RENEGOTIATE IN LOCAL AGREEMENTS. SOMETIMES IT IS CHALLENGING BECAUSE THE AUTHORS OF THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS, THE PLAYERS AREN'T AROUND ANYMORE AND WE HAVE TO TRY TO REVISIT AN AGREEMENT THAT WAS PUT INTO PLACE TO ACCOMPLISH A GOAL THAT MAY NOT 
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BE A PRIORITY FOR THE EXISTING BOARDS AT THAT TIME AND THERE IS OCCASION WHERE THAT LEAVES A GAP IN SERVICES AND PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT AND IMPACTFUL AS A LOSS OF COMMUNITY. I THINK THAT THE DEVELOPER IS REALLY TRYING TO PUT INTO PLACE ONE LARGE COMMUNITY WHERE EVERYBODY FEELS A SENSE OF PLACE AND HOME. THEY'RE HEAVILY INVESTED IN THIS CONCEPT AND THEY WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL LIKE THEY ARE KNOWING THEIR NEIGHBORS, SPENDING TIME WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS AND HAVING TWO DISTRICTS IS PRONE TO CREATING A VERY STRONG US VERSUS THEM ENVIRONMENT WHICH WILL BE LESS CONDUCIVE TO THAT ENVIRONMENT. I ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS THE CDD ON STEROIDS. THAT WAS THE WORST DAD JOKE EVER ON HIS PART. HE REALLY WANTED TO REINFORCE THE AGGREGATE CONCEPT BY THEY JUST NEED THEIR VEGETABLES. 
          >> IMPORTANT, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME THAT THIS WOULD BE AS MUCH OF A CONCERN IF THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT OF SARATOGA SPRINGS WAS THE NORTH SECTION VERSUS THIS BEING THE SOUTH. I REALLY SEE THE BENEFIT FOR THE SOUTH BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO SELL HOMES BUT MOST OF THE AMENITIES ARE IN THE NORTH PART AND THE LARGER AMENITIES ARE IN THE NORTH PART. SO, I SEE THAT BENEFIT BUT DO YOU KNOW WHY YOU ALL CHOSE TO DO THE CDD ON THE SOUTH PART AND NOT TO START AT THE NORTH? 
          >> DAN AND MIKE ARE BOTH HERE AND CAN OFFER ADDITIONAL PERSPECTIVE BUT MY GUESS IS BECAUSE THEY FOUND THAT TO BE THE CONCENTRATION OF DEVELOPMENT WHERE THEY COULD GET PEOPLE IN THE HOMES THE QUICKEST. 
          >> MIKE, THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS UTILITIES. THE SEWERS COMING FROM THE SOUTH. WE ARE WORKING WITH CC UA TO BRING THE SEWER TO THE NORTH. AND THEN THE WATER AND REUSE ARE THE NEW PLANT. THAT'S ON THE SARATOGA PROPERTY. THOSE ARE COMING TO THE SOUTH AND THERE IS EXISTING CAPACITY ON 3:15. REALLY, WE ARE BRINGING UTILITIES THAT WAY AND FROM A COST STANDPOINT WE CAN'T REALLY START ON THE NORTH SIDE. WE ARE STARTING 
          WHERE THE UTILITIES ARE. >> WE TOURED ON FRIDAY AND THEY 
          ARE READY. >> 
          >> WATER FOR THE SPRINKLERS. >> YEAH. THEY SAID SEND IT OUR 
          WAY. >> THEY'VE BEEN WONDERFUL. WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM ON THOSE EXPANSIONS AS WELL TO BRING UTILITIES TO THE SITE WHICH WILL BENEFIT THE AREA AROUND US 
          AS WELL. >> THAT MAKES SENSE. I JUST WONDERED BECAUSE I DID NOT SEEING AS BEING AS MUCH. IF YOU HAD CREATED THE NORTH ONE FIRST I THINK YOU COULD HAVE DONE IT WITH ONE CDD. BECAUSE THE AMENITIES WOULD BE OPEN. LIKE, I DO UNDERSTAND NOW. AGAIN, I'M NOT THE ONE WHO IS WELL-VERSED IN THIS. I GUESS I WOULD ASK YOU, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSIONER SPOKE TO OAK LEAF AND SOME OF THEIRS BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY SHARE AMENITIES AS MUCH IS MAINTENANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT DO EAGLE HARBOR PLANTATION IN BLOOING ALLEN PLANTATION, DO THEY SHARE AMENITIES OR DO THEY FIGHT 
          ABOUT WHO CAN USE WHAT? >> SO, WHEN WE TALKED TODAY WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AS WELL. I ECHO COMMISSIONER THAT IF THERE IS NOT CONTINUITY IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT IS AN ISSUE. 
          SO, ONE THING I FIND ATTRACTIVE OF THIS IS THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS THE ABILITY TO FINISH THE PROJECT. FOR INSTANCE, IF THEY HAVE TO DO TO -- TWO DVDS -- CDD'S THEY GET HALFWAY THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT IT SHIPS OVER AND THOSE FIVE BOARD MEMBERS DON'T SUDDENLY WANT AGGRO HOOD. IT BLOWS THE WHOLE THING UP. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY CONDUCIVE. WHERE I LIVE IN EAGLE HARBOR THERE ARE MULTIPLE CDD'S BUT KATIE WILL PROBABLY TALK ABOUT HOW THEY HAVE WORKED TOGETHER TO HAVE ONE DISTRICT MANAGER . LET ME REPHRASE THAT. MAYBE NOT MULTIPLE CDD'S. 
          >> HOAS. >> HOAS THAT WORK UNDER ONE CDD BUT THAT CONTINUITY IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. YOUR POINT, FLEMING ISLAND IS A DIFFERENT CDD THAN EAGLE HARBOR WHICH IS THE CROSSINGS. EXCUSE ME. THEY DO NOT SHARE, YOU KNOW BUT FROM A NUMBERS PERSPECTIVE, THIS DEVELOPMENT, 4300. 
          >> A LITTLE BIT MORE. CORRECT. 
          >> 4500. ABOUT THE SAME SIZES FLEMING ISLAND PLANTATION. 
          IT'S VERY CLOSE. SO, THE END GOAL, I GUESS, WOULD GET TO THE SAME POINT WITH THE SAME NUMBER OF HOMES IN THE SAME IDEA OF HAVING AMENITIES. IT'S JUST IT WOULD BE ONE UNIT TO START INSTEAD OF PEACE MAILING IT TOGETHER. YEAH. 
          >> KATIE, THERE ARE VERY FEW OF YOU OUT THERE, DO YOU SEE THE 
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ABILITY FOR US FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE AND I'M GOING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT AND THEN I'LL ASK COURTNEY TO ANSWER HER ANSWER IF IT IS DIFFERENT THAN YOURS BUT 
          >> WE OPEN THIS FAUCET, I KNOW IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET THIS THROUGH. LIKE, THEY HAVE HAVE SPONSORSHIP IN TALLAHASSEE AND IT HAS TO BE VOTED ON THERE BUT IT SEEMS TO BE, LIKE, KIND OF, WHEN WE START THIS, CAN WE TURN THE FAUCET OFF? SO, IF WE DON'T FEEL LIKE IT IS AN APPROPRIATE , MAYBE FROM A SIZE PERSPECTIVE, NOT AS MANY HOMES, NOT AS MUCH ACREAGE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I CAN THINK OF -- LET ME JUST USE AN EXAMPLE AND I WILL SAIL PUBLICLY OUT THERE, SO, THE BOARD PREVIOUS TO ALL OF US WAS PITCHED GOVERNORS PARK AND IT WAS PITCHED AS ]. THE COMMUNITY GOT EXCITED ABOUT IT. EVERYONE AT THE BOARD AT THAT TIME DEVOTED WAS EXCITED ABOUT IT AND IT WENT ON ITS WAY AND THEN IT HAS NOW CHANGED HANDS AND IT IS NOT REALLY GOING WELL FOR OUR STAFF AND I KNOW THEY ARE A CDD AND THEY ARE NOT LOOKING TO CHANGE TO THIS KIND OF THING BUT I DON'T KNOW IF -- I GUESS I'M NOT COMFORTABLE ENOUGH WITH THE CONCEPT YET THAT IF WE DON'T FEEL LIKE IT IS THE RIGHT THING, LIKE, I TOTALLY GET WHAT HE WAS SAYING ABOUT THE AGGRO HOOD AND MAYBE SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE PLANTATION PARKWAY, A B WITH CATHEDRAL OAK PARKWAY I GET THOSE KINDS OF THINGS BUT IF IT IS NOT WELL MANAGED BY THE DEVELOPER, WE MAY WANT TO TURN IT OVER SOONER TO THE RESIDENCE AND GET THE DEVELOPER OUT OF THEIR OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. IN MY CASE THE DEVELOPER LEFT. A NEW DEVELOPER STEPPED IN. DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY OR ONCE WE PROVE ONE OF THESE WE ARE LOCKED IN TO WHAT PEOPLE EXPECTED? 
          >> SO, I WOULD TELL MY BOARD THAT PRIOR DECISIONS DO MATTER TO FUTURE DECISIONS, RIGHT? THAT I DO THINK THAT IT CREATES A SENSE OF THIS IS WHAT YOU REVIEWED LAST TIME. SO, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO VIEW THE SAME SET OF FACTORS THIS TIME. THAT BEING SAID, IF THE FACTORS ARE DIFFERENT OR LEAD TO A DIFFERENT ANALYSIS, YOU ARE NOT LOCKED INTO A PATH. THAT WOULD BE MY ADVICE. COURTNEY CAN CERTAINLY SUPPLEMENT IT. 
          >> I GUESS IN CONNECTION WITH THIS PROJECT, APPROVES IT, MOVES ALONG BUT IT GETS STUCK IN HERE AND THE DEVELOPERS NEVER MOVING ALONG WITH THE OTHER PART OF THE PROJECT WERE THE AMENITIES, THEN IT IS STUCK. IS THERE A WAY IN THAT PROCESS TO BOOT THE DEVELOPER OUT AND HAVE THE RESIDENCE? 
          >> THERE'S REALLY NOT. JUST LIKE THERE IS NOT A WAY TO DO THAT WITH THIS CDD. I WILL SAY, IF THE DEVELOPER IS UNABLE TO PURSUE THE PROJECT, ULTIMATELY, WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY DEFAULT ON THEIR DEBT. THE PROPERTY GETS FORECLOSED BY THE DISTRICT AND THEN THE BONDHOLDERS WORK WITH REPRESENTATIVES TO BRING IN CONSULTANTS TO FIND A NEW DEVELOPER THAT IS SUITED FOR THE PROJECT. SO, THEY DON'T STAND STILL FOREVER. THEY 
          CAN'T. >> THAT'S THE SAME WAY WHETHER IT IS A CDD OR TWO CDD'S VERSUS A DISTRICT. 
          >> EXACTLY. >> YOU SAID IT IS A STATE THEN THAT HAS TO RALLY TO STEP IN AND FILL THE SHOES. DID I HEAR THAT? OKAY, SO, IF THERE IS A DEFAULT IN THE EVENT OF A DEFAULT, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR FINDING A SUBSEQUENT DEVELOPER? 
          >> THE BONDHOLDERS, TYPICALLY , LEAD THAT CHARGE. THEY ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE MONEY INVESTED IN THE PROJECT AND THEY WANTED PERFORMING SO THEY CAN RECEIVE PAYMENTS ON THE BONDS, ESSENTIALLY. THEY WANT TO RECOVER THEIR LOAN TO THE 
          DISTRICT. >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE SAME IF WE DEFAULTED ON OUR PUBLIC SAFETY BONDS. THAT WOULD 
          BE WHO CAME IN TO RECOVER. >> RIGHT. 
          >> THE BONDHOLDERS. SO, THEY ARE NOT TETHERED TO THE VISION OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN, ARE THEY? IT'S A SIMILAR SITUATION TO YOUR ILLUSTRATION WHERE YOU ARE SAYING YOU HAVE TWO CDD'S IN HALFWAY THROUGH THE PROJECT THEY ABANDONED THE AGGRO HOOD IDEA. IF THERE IS A DEFAULT THAT BOND FOR ORB ON FIVE AND YOUR BONDHOLDERS THEN NEED TO STEP IN AND MITIGATE THAT DEFAULT , THEN THEY ARE THE ONES WHO -- YOU ARE SAYING -- 
          >> RESPECTFULLY, I THINK THAT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN 
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WHAT THIS COMMISSIONER SUGGESTED. HIS CONCERN WAS ONCE IT TURNED OVER A RESIDENT CONTROLLED THE DEVELOPER WHO IS STILL READY AND ABLE TO PERFORM WOULD NO LONGER BE ABLE TO BECAUSE HE WOULD HAVE CONTROL OF THE BOARD ANYMORE. MAYBE 
          I'M MISREPRESENTING IT. >> NO. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. 
          >> SO, IN THIS INSTANCE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IF A DEVELOPER DEFAULTS ON A DEAL. IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME REMEDY WHETHER IT IS ONE CDD, TWO CDD OR TO STEWARDSHIP 
          DISTRICT. >> YOU'RE JUST SAYING THAT THE UNDERLYING PLAN DOES NOT CHANGE. THEY JUST FIND SOMEBODY 
          ELSE TO FINANCE IT. >> MOST LIKELY. WHEN WE ISSUE BONDS ONE OF OUR REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY ASSIGNED TO THE DISTRICT ALL THE ENTITLEMENTS AND RIGHTS NECESSARY TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY. WE FORECLOSE ON THE LAND TO GET TITLE TO THE PROPERTY IN A DEFAULT BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO ESSENTIALLY STEP INTO THE SHOES OF THE DEVELOPER AND PUSH THE 
          PROJECT FORWARD AS PERMITTED. >> MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. WITH THE STEWARDSHIP PROCESS, IF THE COUNTY COMMISSION MOVES FORWARD AND I FORGET THE VERBIAGE OF NON-OBJECTION. IF WE KNEW -- MOVE FORWARD NOT OBJECTION IF THE STATE DELEGATION HAS AN OBJECTION DOES THE PROJECT JUST NOT HAPPEN? 
          >> RIGHT. IF THEY DON'T SHEPHERD THE BILL THROUGH AND APPROVE IT IT GOES TO HOUSE AND SENATE. 
          >> IT'S FILED WITH THE HOUSE. THE DELEGATION WILL BE REQUIRED 
          TO TAKE A BREAK -- VOTE. >> OKAY. 
          >> CAN ASK A QUESTION? >> SURE. 
          >> TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR DISTRICT. YOU THINK THAT THEY WOULD -- HOW COMFORTABLE DO YOU THINK THEY WILL BE WITH THE DEVELOPER BEING THE LEADING VOICE UNTIL THE CDD TURNOVER OF 
          RESIDENCE? >> I'VE SEEN THIS DEVELOPMENT. 
          I FEEL LIKE THE RESIDENCE WOULD WANT TO LIVE HERE, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THESE MYSELF. I FEEL LIKE -- I DON'T LIVE IN A CDD AREA. I DO WHATEVER I WANT. I CAN HAVE AN RV THERE. I CAN HAVE WHATEVER . BUT PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN A CDD, THEY ARE PAYING FOR A CERTAIN TYPE OF STANDARD OF LIVING AND I TOO KNOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE PROTECTED AND THEY ARE GOING TO GET WITH A SIGNED UP FOR, ESSENTIALLY, WHERE YOU HAVE OTHER CDD'S IN OUR AREA THAT COMES UP REGULARLY AND TALKS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN ROLLING HILLS. I FEEL LIKE THESE ARE GOING TO BE PROTECTED AND THAT IS WHY THEY'RE GOING 
          TO PAY EXTRA FOR IT AND >> CAN YOU MAKE THAT DISTINCTION FOR ME? HELENA IS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CDD. SO, THEY HAD ALL OF THESE ISSUES. AND, YET, THOSE PROTECTIONS WERE STILL IN PLACE, RIGHT? WHAT ARE YOU SAYING IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS? I GUESS I MISUNDERSTANDING. 
          >> THE PROTECTIONS WERE NOT A PLACE AT ALL. SHE CAN GIVE YOU A LIST OF THINGS THAT THEY HAVE NOT GOT AN THINGS THEY WERE PROMISED. MONEY IS NOT THERE ANYMORE. THE DEVELOPER LEFT. 
          >> SO, THE CDD WAS CREATED AFTER THE FACT? I GUESS, -- 
          >> THIS IS A STEWARDSHIP DISTRICT. THAT SOMETHING 
          DIFFERENT. >> RIGHT. THAT'S WHY FEEL LIKE THIS PROTECTS THE RESIDENCE A LOT MORE THEN IF YOU HAD TO -- 
          TWO CDD'S. >> IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2006. 
          IT'S BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK A REALLY LONG TIME. IT WAS DEFAULTED ON IN 2009 AND THEN PICKED UP BY A COMPANY THAT WAS NOT LOCAL AND, FRANKLY, PROBABLY NEW TO THE DEVELOPMENT WORLD. AT THAT TIME, WHEN THE BONDS WERE ISSUED, IT WAS LESS OF A GUARANTEE. YOU DID NOT HAVE THE SAME PROTECTIONS WITH ASSIGNMENTS AND OTHER DOCUMENTS TO ENSURE THAT THE PERSON OR DISTRICT COULD STEPPED INTO THE SHOES. A LOT OF IT IS GOING TO BE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TRUST THAT YOU HAVE TO PLACE IN THE DEVELOPER HERE AND THE VISION THAT THEY HAVE PUT FORTH TO YOU AND THE EFFORT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO REQUIRE. I MEAN, ALL CDD'S ARE THE SAME, RIGHT? THIS IS JUST LIKE A CDD IN THAT SENSE. THEY ARE NOT FUNCTIONALLY DIFFERENT. IF YOU DON'T LIKE CDD'S, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO APPRECIATE. IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH CDD'S, IT'S A SMALL STEP ESSENTIALLY TO A STEWARDSHIP DISTRICT. 
          >> I AGREE AND THAT IS WHY I WAS WONDERING WHAT IS THE SENTIMENT OUT THERE. LIKE YOU DON'T MIND CDD'S BUT YOU DON'T LIVE IN ONE. WHAT ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE? 
          >> ONE REALLY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE I THINK BETWEEN ROLLING HILLS AND FEED MILL WOULD BE THE NUMBER OF UNITS 
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THAT ARE WITHIN THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. ROLLING HILLS IS HEAVILY AMENDED TIES FOR A SMALL COMMUNITY. THE COST TO CARRY THAT IS EXTREMELY HIGH AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN. HERE YOU HAVE 4500 UNITS TO SPREAD THE COST OVER. 
          >> I'M REGULARLY ASKED IN OUR DISTRICT WHY DO WE NOT HAVE DIFFERENT PRICE POINTS? WHY? EVERY SINGLE DEVELOPMENT IS ALMOST THE SAME. THIS IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, WITH PEOPLE MOVING TO OUR COUNTY , I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS ANYMORE BUT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND THIS IS SOMETHING, I MEAN, THIS IS THE EXACT CENTER OF OUR COUNTY. I THINK ALL Y'ALL SAW THEIR PRESENTATION BUT, I MEAN, IMAGINE DRIVING INTO THIS AND WHAT IT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, HUGE ENTRANCE AT THE BEGINNING AND EVERYBODY GETS TO DRIVE THROUGH IT. IT'S NOT JUST THE RESIDENCE OF SARATOGA SPRINGS THEY GET TO ENJOY. IT'S BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE. 
          THESE ARE THINGS THAT THESE DEVELOPERS ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO TAKE CARE OF AND MAINTAIN BUT YET WE GET TO ENJOY IT AND, SO, I THINK IT IS SOMETHING DEFINITELY DIFFERENT. I MEAN, MY HUSBAND WANTS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE HIS BOAT OUT IN THE DRIVEWAY OTHERWISE I WOULD BE SAYING LET'S GO OVER THERE. 
          YOU KNOW HOW I AM ABOUT DEVELOPMENT BUT I'M ACTUALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE A GREAT THING AND I'M EXCITED TO KNOW THAT, NUMBER ONE, RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE SAME THING AS THE LAST RESIDENT AND THEY WILL BE PROTECTED. THAT'S WHY I AM FOR IT. 
          >> ANY OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION? IS THERE ANY SENTIMENT TO CHANGE OUR VOTE? IF NOT, WE DON'T HAVE TO REVOTE. I JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION. 
          EVERYONE COMFORTABLE WITH HOW THEY VOTED? OKAY. THANK YOU 
          [26.  Approval of the North Florida TPO list (R. Smith)]
          VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT. 
          >> GREAT DISCUSSION. >> OKAY. RICHARD? APPROVAL OF 
          THE TPO LIST. >> RICHARD SMITH. CLAY COUNTY ENGINEER. WHAT IS BEFORE YOU THIS ITEM IS OUR ANNUAL PRIORITY LIST THAT WE DELIVERED TO THE NORTH FLORIDA TRANSPORTATION PLANNING UNIT FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION TO OBTAIN GRANT MONEY FROM THE VARIOUS AGENCIES THAT THEY REPRESENT. AND ON THE BACK PAGE WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR AT THE END OF THE DISCUSSION A PRIORITY LIST THAT WILL PREPARE BASED ON TONIGHT'S OUTCOME , AUTHORIZE STAFF TO APPLY FOR GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE RELATED TO ANY PROJECT ON THE TPO LIST AND AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY MANAGER TO EXECUTE RELATED GRANT APPLICATIONS. THESE ARE DUE BACK IN THE NORTH FLORIDA TPO OFFICE ON JANUARY 24TH. SO, WE WILL BE DOING THE SECRETARIAL WORK OF GETTING THEM PREPARED BASED ON TONIGHT'S CONVERSATION. WHAT I'VE GIVEN TO YOU ON THE FIRST PAGE -- ON THE SECOND PAGE IS A 2025 LIST OF PRIORITY PROJECTS THAT ARE BASICALLY ONE THROUGH 15 FROM LAST YEAR'S RANKINGS AND NOW I AM LOOKING FOR IN THE SUNSHINE DISCUSSION OF THE MEMBERS TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING WE CAN PRESENT TO THE 
          ORGANIZATION. >> SO, IF I MAY, THE FIRST ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE AIRPORT ROAD AND CRYSTAL LAKE ROAD FROM THE LIST ALTOGETHER. THAT WAS FROM THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN THERE WAS A THOUGHT THAT FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE THAT MAKING ACCESS TO THE ONLY COMMERCIAL AIRPORT IN CLAY COUNTY WAS GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL. THAT WAS, AS I HAD THOUGHT ABOUT IT WHEN RICHARD ASKED ME HOW THAT ENDED UP ON THERE, THAT WAS FROM A PREVIOUS , WHATEVER CRAWFORD'S TITLE IS, HEAD OF THE ADC OR WHATEVER, THAT WAS FROM THE PREVIOUS DIRECTOR. THEY HAD SAID THAT WAS IMPORTANT. 
          CRAWFORD HAS NOT INDICATED THAT IS IMPORTANT. BY THE WAY, IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO OPEN UP TREE ROAD AND, OTHERWISE, WE DON'T HAVE A ROAD THROUGH THERE AND, SO, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE, IF WE HAD ONE THROUGH THERE, IT WOULD GO THROUGH LOTS OF RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT AREN'T APPROPRIATE FOR ECONOMIC, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ANYWAY. 
          SO, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO PUT ON THERE AND WHAT I'VE BEEN ASKED TO PUT ON THERE FOR ONE YEAR AND IT CAN COME RIGHT BACK OFF NEXT YEAR IS THE TURN LANE AT STATE ROAD 21 AND STATE ROAD 
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100 INTERSECTION IN THE CITY OF KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. SO, IF YOU ARE NOT AWARE, THE CITY OF KEYSTONE HEIGHTS PURCHASED -- TO MEET AS THE OLD KFC. IF YOU'RE OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER THAT, BEFORE THAT, AFTER THAT, IT WAS THE CHINESE RESTAURANT BUT IT HAS BEEN VACANT FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AND IT WAS AN EYESORE. SO, THE CITY PURCHASED IT AND THEY DEMOLISHED IT AND THEY DID THAT WITH THE ASSURANCE FROM THE TPO AND D.O.T. THAT THEY WOULD PUT A TURN LANE INTO APPROVE SAFETY AND TRAFFIC FLOW THROUGH THERE. AND, SO, JEFF CHEF FIELD WITH THE TPO, JIM KNIGHT WITH D.O.T. ASKED ME IF I WOULD CHAMPION THAT TO PUT THAT ON THERE FOR ONE YEAR AND NEXT YEAR IT WOULD COME RIGHT BACK OFF. D.O.T. WANTS TO PUT THAT TURN LANE AND. JEFF SAYS THAT IT IS NEEDED FOR TRAFFIC FLOW IN THE CITY OF KEYSTONE HEIGHTS AT TWO STATE ROADS. 
          >> AND FOR SAFETY, IF I REMEMBER. I DROVE THROUGH THERE THIS PAST WEEKEND AND I HEARD THAT -- I PROBABLY SHOULD NOT SHARE BUT THERE HAVE BEEN ACCIDENTS OUT THAT WAY THAT WARRANT THAT TURN LANE. AND IT ACTUALLY LOOKS GOOD CLEAR . 
          >> EVEN JUST TAKING DOWN THE BUILDING IT HAS IMPROVED LINE 
          OF SIGHT. >> IT IS A LINE OF SIGHT ISSUE. 
          THE INTERSECTION IS NOT A PERFECT 90 DEGREE CROSS. IT HAS GOT ASKEW. THAT ACUTE ANGLE MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO SEE BACK TO THE NORTH. WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED AS RECOMMENDED BY 
          THE CITY OF KEYSTONE? >> IF WE CAN PUT ON THE LIST FOR ONE YEAR, PULL IT RIGHT BACK OFF NEXT YEAR. JUST REPLACE THAT AIRPORT ROAD WITH THAT FOR THIS YEAR AND IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT, THEN NEXT YEAR I'M NOT GOING TO ASKED TO PUT THE AIRPORT ROAD BACK ON. 
          >> OKAY. >> IT'S A TURN LANE AT -- 
          >> STATE ROAD AND 21 AND 100. THE OTHER ONE THAT I HAD TOLD RICHARD I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE US PUT ON HERE AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE GOES ON THE LIST BUT SOMEWHERE ON THE LIST IS WE SHARE IT, IN ORDER OF OUR DISTRICTS BUT JENNINGS FROM STATE ROAD 23 TO LONG BAY IS REALLY GETTING A LOT OF TRAFFIC. SO, IF WE CAN PUT THE WIDENING OF THAT BASED ON RICHARD'S NUMBERS IT IS APPROACHING THE NEED FOR FOUR LANES AND, SO, RIGHT NOW IT IS NOT ON ANYBODY'S LIST. IT'S NOT ON OUR CIP. IT'S JUST THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT GOES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT COMES OFF. NOW, I WILL SAY , AND MAYBE YOU CAN SPEAK TO IT, BECAUSE I MISSED THE TPO MEETING IN DECEMBER, THAT I THINK YOU ATTENDED. BUT JEFF SAID IT WON'T HELP US FOR THIS YEAR BUT HE ASKED THE TPO BOARD TO VOTE IN FEBRUARY WHICH IS AFTER OUR MEETING NEXT TO MEETINGS TO APPROVE ADDING FIVE MORE ROADS TO THIS WHICH WOULD EFFECTIVELY GIVE US A SIX ROAD THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, SO, THE WAY THAT THIS WORKS IS WE DO THIS LIST AS A PRIORITY AND IT IS THE OFFICIAL LIST TO THE TPO AND TO THE D.O.T. THESE ARE OUR PRIORITIES. THEY OFTEN ASK US TO PUT CERTAIN THINGS ON THEIR. THEY HAVE TO TOUCH A STATE ROAD AND, SO, WE HAVE TWO ROADS ON HERE THAT WERE PUT ON THE LIST BECAUSE THEY WERE HIGH TRAFFIC BUT THEY DON'T ACTUALLY TOUCH A STATE ROAD. 
          >> COUNTY ROAD 220. IT DOESN'T DIRECTLY TOUCH THE STATE ROAD. 
          >> OKAY. SO, SOMETHING ABOUT FUNDING AND THE WAY THAT IT IS DONE, SO, BUT THEY CAN PULL ANYWHERE ON THE LIST. THE WAY THAT THEY DESCRIBE IT IS AND TO USE TROY'S -- ONE OF TROY'S ÚFA HAVE SHOVEL READY PROJECTS, IF THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY COME UP OR A LOT OF MONEY COME UP ON A PROJECT THAT FITS IT OR MEGAN FINDS A GRANT OR WHATEVER, THEY CAN GO AND PULL ANY OF THE 15. WHAT JEFF CHEF FIELD WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TAKE IT TO 20 WHERE THEY CAN PULL ANY OF THE 20 AND WE WOULD GET SIX PUT ON THE PRIORITY LIST. USUALLY THERE AT THE TOP BUT 
          NOT ALWAYS. >> RICHARD, I NEED YOUR HELP ON THIS. SO, RICHARD AND I DISCUSSED AT THE 222 TO '21 WE TALKED ABOUT WIDENING FOUR LANES. I DON'T THINK THAT IS 
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NECESSARY AT ALL. RICHARD BACKED ME UP YESTERDAY WHENEVER HE SHOWED ME THAT I AM OUT OF TRAFFIC THAT TRAVELS THAT AND, SO, MY REQUEST, I WOULD SAY, IS I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO PUT THAT BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE NEAR THE TOP. I HAVE A TRAFFIC COUNT FOR MAY OF '24. ABOUT SEVEN MONTHS OLD. I LOOKED AT IT TODAY AFTER WE SPOKE AND THE SOFTWARE IS IN PLACE. WE ARE LOOKING TO DO THE FINAL PURCHASE. WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE ALMOST REAL-TIME DATA IN THE FUTURE. CURRENTLY WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS ABOUT SEVEN MONTHS OLD. NOT A LOT OF CHANGES IN THAT AREA IN SEVEN MONTHS. THERE WILL BE IN SEVEN MORE MONTHS, COMMISSIONER, WITH THE OPENING, POTENTIAL OPENING OF STATE ROAD 23. YOU MAKE A VERY GOOD POINT IN THAT THE AREA THAT IS BEING IMPROVED NOW , THANKS TO OUR D.O.T. 
          PARTNERSHIP AS WELL AS A VERY FAIR AMOUNT OF FUNDING, SELF FUNDING, HAS, IS DEFICIENT. MEETS THE 18,000 AVERAGE DAILY TRIPS PER DAY AND WE WILL HAVE THAT THROUGH THE HANLEY ROAD INTERSECTION. THE NEXT SEGMENT IS SHOVEL READY AND THE TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM HAS A DESIGNED, PERMITTED, AND ALL RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUIRED. SO, THAT IS READY. WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO COMPLETE IT. WHEN WE GET TO STATE ROAD 21 IN FRONT OF THE HIGH SCHOOL THE ROAD COUNT DROPS DOWN TO LESS THAN 7000 CARS A DAY. SO, YOU ARE GETTING, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, OLD JENNINGS THAT WE ARE GOING TO POSSIBLY ADD TO THE LIST IS OVER 10,000 CARS A DAY. SO, IT IS REALLY TELLING WHEN YOU LOOK AT ACTUAL NUMBERS AND NOT EMOTIONS. D.O.T. WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT CONNECTED A 17-21. WE WOULD TOO. THE NUMBERS DON'T REALLY SUPPORT THAT. WHERE IT ENDS UP, THAT'S 
          OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. >> I HAVE IDEAS. 315 TWO WE TALKED ABOUT THIS 17 TO 21 IS WHAT YOU ARE RECOMMENDING, I KNOW FROM PERSONAL TALKS WITH JIM KNIGHT WHENEVER WE HAD A MEETING THAT HE -- IT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS NOT REALLY HAPPY WHENEVER WE SAID THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THE FUNDS TO WIDEN 315 . THAT BOTTLENECKS AND HE REALLY HAD A HARD TIME WITH THAT. WE REALLY ARE THINKING THAT HE IS WANTING TO HELP, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, THAT WOULD BE ONE THAT WE NEED TO MOVE CLOSER TO THE TOP. I FEEL LIKE TO 20 COULD GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE. DOWN THERE. JENNINGS SHOULD MOVE UP BECAUSE I DO TRAVEL THAT QUITE A BIT MYSELF. SO, I DON'T KNOW WHERE NUMBER WISE WHERE TO PUT THOSE BUT I THINK 220 SHOULD GO WAY DOWN AND OLD JENNINGS SHOULD GO UP AND 315 TO GO UP NEAR THE 
          TOP. >> I THINK WE WOULD GET SUPPORT FOR THAT BECAUSE OF WHAT IT WOULD FEED. IT WOULD FEED A REVENUE-GENERATING TOLL FACILITY . 
          >> YOU SAID 17 TO 21 BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH STATE ROADS. 
          >> STATE ROAD 315 OR COUNTY STATE ROAD 23. Y WE 
          >> OH. 23. >> YES. THE SECTION BETWEEN 23 AND ELEMENTARY IS -- CURRENT WILL OPEN IS A FOUR-LANE SECTION. THAT'S ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED BY THE DEVELOPER. 
          >> ALL THEY WOULD NEED TO DO IS 17 TO THE SEGMENT THERE? 
          >> YEAH. TO THE INTERCHANGE. STATE ROUTE 23. SO, YES, MA'AM. 
          ALL RIGHT? >> WE HAVE DESIGN ALREADY FOR 
          THAT? >> WE HAVE DESIGN FOR IT. YES, WE DO. WE DO. THE WHOLE THING. THE REASON I HESITATED WAS THAT IS TWO PROJECTS. SIX A AND 6B. 6B WAS, KIND OF, ELIMINATED. 
          SIX A IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION TO BE COMPLETED, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS. YES, MA'AM. YOU ARE CORRECT.THERE ARE STILL SOME RIGHT-OF-WAY TO ACQUIRE. BUT THE DESIGN AND THE PERMITTING ARE WELL UNDERWAY. THERE IS SOME RIGHT-OF-WAY. 
          >> IS THAT OUR 404 PROJECT? >> IT DID. THAT IS THE ONE WHEN WE SAID WE GOT CAUGHT THE DAY BEFORE BY THE SUPREME COURT RULING WHICH TOOK AWAY THE LOCAL AUTHORITY. IT ENDED UP BEING APPROVED OUT OF THE ALBUQUERQUE NEW MEXICO DISTRICT. IT TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF KNOWLEDGE. IT TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO GET IT GOING. RIGHT NOW THEY NEED ONE LAST THING THAT HAS TO DO WITH OUR NATIONAL PERMIT ELIMINATION AND DISCHARGE PERMIT AND ST. JOHN'S WILL APPROVE IT AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO COMPLETE THE PAPERWORK TOMORROW. 
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          >> MAY BE ALBUQUERQUE AS YOU TOLD YOU HAD TO ADDRESS MANATEES AND PETERS CREEK OVER THERE. 
          >> AFTER EXPLAINED TO THEM THOSE VERY FEW NATIVE AMERICAN ISSUES ON THEIR PUEBLOS. BUT IT WAS REALLY -- IT REALLY -- IT WASN'T THE BEST DECISION FOR US LOCALLY. IT WAS NOT A GOOD DECISION. WHAT HAPPENED IS THEY TOOK AWAY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AUTHORITY ISSUE PERMANENT -- PERMIT AND THE SUPREME COURT DID IT SO IT WAS 
          EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. >> MADAM CHAIR, HAVE A CLARIFYING QUESTION ABOUT PRIORITY NUMBER ONE. SO, ON 2023, IT WAS LISTED AS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. 2024, NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. BUT THEN ON '25 IT IS SWITCHED TO HALLER'S PLACE INSTEAD OF NIGHT BOX ROAD. IS THAT BECAUSE THE STATE ROAD 21 TONIGHT BOX ROAD, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE 
          WORKING ON CURRENTLY? >> YES. THAT IS WHEN THE FISH 
          GOT IN THE BOAT. >> AND YOU ARE ALLUDING TO WHERE PEOPLE TAKE A RIGHT TO GO TO OAKLEY? 
          >> HALLER'S PLACE IS THE ENTRANCE TO THE SUBDIVISION JUST PAST THE MARATHON STATION. 
          >> OKAY. GOT IT. I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT NEEDS TO BE FOUR LANES EITHER. 
          >> IT'S A NICE DRIVE. RICHARD, ONE QUESTION, SORRY, 209, I MEAN, SINCE WE ARE HAVING THE 20 ROADS, I MEAN, IT'S OKAY RIGHT HERE AND WERE LOOKING AT A STUDY? 
          >> YES, MA'AM. EVERY YEAR THIS TIME OF THE NEXT AFTER THIS GETS THE NEXT THING THEY WILL ASK FOR IN THE LATE JANUARY EARLY FEBRUARY THESE ARE STUDIES THAT THEY WILL PAY FOR TO DO FOR US. EXAMPLES ARE STATE ROAD 21 STATE ROAD 16 STUDY BETWEEN INTERCHANGE . STATE ROAD 23 INTERCHANGE AND THE CROSSROADS AT 16 AND 21. THAT WAS COMPLETED. THEY DID A DIRT ROAD STUDY WHERE THE COMMISSIONERS ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH. IT WAS $80-$100,000 STUDY THAT BASICALLY REALLY GAVE US SOME GREAT INFORMATION. THEY'RE CURRENTLY FINISHING UP A STUDY ON THE OAKES AVENUE CORE DOOR TO REALLY LOOK AT DIFFERENT ALIGNMENTS FOR IT. THAT WILL CONNECT STATE ROAD 23 TO THE EXISTING AND CURRENT AND OF CHESWICK. THAT WILL BE COMPLETED IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR. WITH PRESENTATIONS WE ARE HOPING TO SCHEDULE IN THE NEXT COUPLE, FOUR TO SIX WEEKS. WE ARE REQUESTING, AS ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES, A CAPACITY STUDY FOR STATE ROAD -- COUNTY ROAD 209 BETWEEN HENLEY AND 315 B WHICH IS ON THE SOUTH END. WE WANT THAT STUDY TO ENCOMPASS THE DETAILS OF IT WOULD INCLUDE FUNCTIONING STATE ROAD 23 . A FUNCTIONING CATHEDRAL OAK PARKWAY AND HOW ALL THAT IS GOING TO WORK WITH WHAT WE THINK IS GOING TO BE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT SCHOOL CAMPUS. AS WELL AS THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA FOR WHAT IS CURRENTLY PRESENTLY ZONED FOR. 
          SO, THAT WON'T BE READY UNTIL JUNE OF '26 BUT IT WILL PUT TO REST FOLKS AND WE NEED TO FOUR-LANE IT. OR WE NEED TO THREE LANE IT. THAT WILL HELP US. MAKE FUTURE DECISIONS. 
          >> MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD SAY SINCE WE ARE VACATING THE NUMBER ONE, COMMISSIONER, I THINK NUMBER THREE IS DEFINITELY A HIGH PRIORITY. I THINK AS A LAKE AS VERY CONTINUES TO BE DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, AS WE HAVE TALKED PREVIOUSLY ABOUT BRIDGES THAT YOU CAN GET PRETTY EXPENSIVE THERE, SO, IF THEY CAN ASSIST US WITH THAT, THAT IS GREAT. 
          AND, AS YOU KNOW, IN YOUR DISTRICT, WHEN YOU COME UP TO BLACK CREEK BRIDGE SOUTH TO TAKE A RIGHT ONTO 315, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE JUST NOT REOPENING THE RAILROAD TRACKS BUT GETTING UP TO THAT POINT, COMING DOWN TO TWO LANES, YOU KNOW, MAKING THAT THREE WOULD BE SUPER HELPFUL. I'M IN FAVOR OF MOVING THAT WENT UP POTENTIALLY AS BLAKE DEVELOPS, AS SOUTHERN GRIECO DEVELOPS, I THINK HIGHWAY 17 IS GOING TO CONTINUALLY GAIN TRAFFIC. I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE AN 
          IMPORTANT PROJECT. >> AS FAR AS THAT, WHICH ONE 
          WOULD YOU RECOMMEND? >> IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER. 
          THE ORDER. >> IT DOESN'T? 
          >> IT MIGHT MATTER TO Y'ALL. BUT IT DOES NOT MATTER FOR TPO. 
          >> WE KNOW WE HAVE TALKED TO ONE OF THE LEADING LOBBYISTS UP THERE. ADVOCATES UP THERE OF MR. JIM KNIGHT IN THE URBAN PLANNING PORTION. HE IS A BETA ADVOCATE -- BIG ADVOCATE OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. THEY'RE LOOKING AT THIS MUCH MORE REASONABLY THAN WE LOOK AT IT. THEREFORE, IF YOU DID THAT, YOU 
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WOULD CERTAINLY MAKE SOME OF THE D.O.T. FOLKS HAPPY AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT MEANING IT WOULD -- YOU WOULD DEFINITELY BE CATERING TO THE TEACHER, SO TO 
          SPEAK, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? >> BASICALLY WE JUST NEED TO FIND ANOTHER ONE TO REPLACE THE 220 TO MOVE UP TO THE TOP FIVE? 
          >> I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS ABOUT OLD JENNINGS AND LONG BAY. 
          YEAH, PRIMARILY BECAUSE RICHARD I LEARNED TODAY YOU TAUGHT ME THAT WE HAVE 28,000 FOLKS WHO HOP ON 23 AND RIGHT NOW THAT IS THE ONLY PART OF THE EXPRESSWAY THAT IS OPEN. OUR DISTRICT IS HEAVILY IMPACTED BY THAT TRAFFIC AND IT IS NOWHERE ON ANYBODY'S RADAR AND, ARGUABLY, WE ARE GOING TO -- I MEAN, WE ARE ALREADY SEEING THE EFFECTS OF IT AND WE HAVE DENIED PROJECTS OR THERE HAVE BEEN VOTES AGAINST PROJECTS BECAUSE OF OLD JENNINGS BEING WHAT IT IS . SO, I WOULD ADVOCATE , IF YOU WANT TO SHARE WHAT SHOULD BE NUMBER ONE, I'VE GOT YOU. 
          TRULY. >> THE OTHER INTERESTING THING ABOUT THAT, WE DID, WITH SOME -- I DON'T WANT TO CALL THEM REGRETS, BUT WITH SOME CRITICISM WE WENT OVER THE SPEED LIMIT IN ANTICIPATION FOR THIS. THAT AREA, THE COUNTY IS GETTING DEVELOPED. THAT IS GOING TO BE FOLKS WAY DOWN OLD JENNINGS, THE FOX MEADOW, THE AREA DOWN THERE TO GET TO THEIR COMMERCE AND IN DOING THAT, WE MADE THE ROAD A LITTLE SAFER. 
          WE THOUGHT ABOUT LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT. IT TURNS OUT PEOPLE WOULD RATHER GO FASTER TO GET TO HOME DEPOT. 
          >> I'M GETTING THE CALLS. ARE YOU GETTING THE CALLS? NO? OKAY. I GET THE CALLS ABOUT THE SPEED LIMITS. THEY COMPLAINED 
          QUITE A BIT ABOUT LOWERING. >> THE ONLY THING THEY COMPLAINED ABOUT TO ME WAS WHEN WE DID NOT CHANGE IT ON EVERY 
          SIGN. WE GOT THAT FIXED. >> WE HAD ONE SIGN THAT UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS THE ONE RIGHT WHERE YOU GET OFF OF 
          CHALLENGER. >> AND THEY CAUGHT IT QUICK BECAUSE IT WENT UP FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY MORNING I GOT A CALL. I'M SURE HE DID TOO. SATURDAY MORNING. 
          >> WE WENT AND CHANGED IT THEN. >> I DON'T ENTERTAIN NOBODY FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICES IN HERE BUT THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE -- WELL, THEY WILL BE. NO, THERE IS. OVER THERE. HI. 
          ANYWAY. I DON'T ENTERTAIN ANYBODY CALLING ME AND SAYING I GOT A SPEEDING TICKET. THEN YOU NEED TO DRIVE SLOWER. AS KRISTI KNOWS, YOU DON'T WANT TO GET BEHIND ME ON THE WAY HOME TONIGHT. I DRIVE THE SPEED LIMIT. IT'S OKAY. IT'S ME. I OWN IT. IT'S OKAY. YOU CAN PASS ME. ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE IS I WAS GOING TO TELL ED WHILE THERE WAS NO WORK DONE ON 218 AT CHRISTMAS, THE C CSO WAS WORKING AND THEY WERE ISSUING TICKETS IN THAT 25 MILE AN HOUR ZONE BECAUSE IT'S JUST LIKE WHAT COMMISSIONER BURKE SAID. THEY WANT TO FLY THROUGH THE ROADS . THEY WANT TO FLY THROUGH. THEY JUST DON'T WANT EVERYBODY ELSE TO. OR THEY HAVE AN ACCIDENT OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE ONE I WILL TELL YOU IS. SO, NUMBER SIX, COUNTY ROAD 218 WEST OF STATE ROAD 21 . WIDE INTO FOUR LANES. 
          AS YOU WILL REMEMBER WE HAD TO SHORTEN THAT PROJECT DRASTICALLY BECAUSE OF FUNDING WITH THE TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM. THAT IS OUR ONLY ROAD OF CRITICAL EFFICIENCY IN THE COUNTY BASED ON THE D.O.T. STANDARDS AND ALL THOSE TRAFFIC STANDARDS. YOU REALLY HAVE TO KEEP THAT WENT ON THERE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY TO 301. IT'S THE SAME AS RICHARD WAS TALKING ABOUT OR YOU ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT 220. 
          IT REALLY ONLY NEEDS TO GO TO THE COMMERCIAL AREA. IT REALLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE PAST THAT BECAUSE IT'S MORE RESIDENTIAL AND WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE PARTS OF PEOPLE'S FARMS. 
          >> RIGHT. THAT'S ONE WORRY WE HAVE A REQUIRED SOME RIGHT AWAY, IF NOT ALL. WE ACQUIRED SOME OF THAT RIGHT AWAY, IF NOT ALL OF IT. COUNTY ATTORNEY AS WELL AS IT HAS BEEN -- IT IS PERMITTED. SO, IT WOULD BE UP TO COSMOS AVENUE. BUT WE CAN'T ADVOCATE FOR MASTERS OF COSMOS. WE HAVE TO ADVOCATE TO THE 
          STATE ROUTE. >> YEAH. 
          >> COMMISSIONER? DO YOU HAVE ANY ROADS YOU WANT TO PUT A 
          HIGHLIGHT ON? >> DOUBLE DECK 17. 
          >> YES. >> YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S MY BIGGEST FEAR. WE KEEP WIDENING THE ROADS AND THEY'RE GOING 
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RIGHT THROUGH ORANGE PARK. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WERE GOING TO 
          DO WITH IT. >> WELL, DO THEY THINK? 
          >> LUCKILY IT'S A STATE ROAD. 
          >> ARE THERE ANY -- I KNOW IT'S THE ONLY PLACE TO GO NORTH AND SOUTH ON THE FAR EAST PART OF THE COUNTY BUT IS THERE ANY EFFORT LIKE, DO THEY THINK IT WILL BE ALLEVIATED BY ANY 
          OTHER ROADS? >> I MEAN, THEY'RE DOING WORK RIGHT NOW TRYING TO IMPROVE FLOW AT ELDRITCH AND WE ARE GOING TO DO WORK ON THE LANDING AT WELLS ROAD . THAT IS ALREADY PREDICTED OUR PLAN. SO, I DON'T KNOW. 
          >> THAT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE. EVEN THOUGH MAY BE SITTING OUT THERE IN THE DARK, IT ACTUALLY DESIGNS IN A REQUIRED U-TURN TO GO STRAIGHT ACROSS . SO, IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING WHEN IT BEGINS AND PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION. BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF WHAT -- THAT ACTUALLY EXTENDS INTO DUBOIS COUNTY AT THAT CORNER. 
          >> RIGHT. >> THAT'S IN REACTION TO THAT IS THE MOST DANGEROUS FROM A STATISTICAL STANDPOINT INTERSECTION AND THE DEVOL ST. JOHN'S CLAY COUNTY AREA. WELLS 
          AND LANDING IS NUMBER ONE. >> IT'S ALREADY PLANNED. I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL IT IS GOING TO WORK. 
          >> YET. IT WILL WORK WELL. IT WILL JUST BE SOMETHING THAT IS VERY ATYPICAL. IT IS NOT EVEN BE USED BY D.O.T. AND THE 
          STATE. >> IT'S NOT THOSE DIAMOND 
          THINGS IS IT? >> OH. YEAH. 
          >> THE DIVERGING DIAMONDS? >> OH. YEAH. YEAH. 
          >> ON LANDING. >> IS ONE OF THOSE OFF OF I THINK IT IS JT BE THAT IS LIKE THAT WHERE YOU COME AROUND AND STRAIGHT INTO IT. IT'S DIFFERENT. 
          >> THIS IS THE DIVERGING DIAMOND INTERSECTION. THE U-TURN ON BLANDING. THERE IS A LEFT TURNING MOVEMENT FROM BLANDING SOUTH TO WELLS ROAD EAST WHERE YOU WILL HAVE OPPOSING AUTOMOBILES ON BOTH SIDES OF YOU. SO, IT'S GOING 
          TO BE -- IT'S A NEW CONCEPT. >> SO, IN ASHEVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THAT RIGHT BY THEIR AIRPORT AND IT IS ACTUALLY NOT A BAD TRAFFIC FLOW IF EVERYBODY WATCHES THE LIGHTS. THE LIGHTS WILL TURN RED AND IT'S YOUR TIME TO GO. BUT YOU GO THIS WAY TO GET ON THE INTERSTATE FROM 
          THAT WAY. >> YES. IT'S SIMILAR. 
          >> IT WILL IMPROVE FLOW AND IT WILL BE A CHANGE FROM THE NORMAL WHICH WILL CAUSE PROBLEMS. 
          >> MY QUESTION REALLY WOULD BE ARE WE GOING TO TRY TO DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE A -- TAKE THIS TO A LIST OF 20? OR SHOULD WE 
          WAIT? >> I HAVE IDEAS ABOUT WHAT I 
          COULD ADD TO IT IN ADDITION. >> THAT'S -- THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO LEAVE HER WITH. SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO EDIT AND OR, WELL, SOMETHING YOU WILL EDIT FOR ME AND THEN WE WILL TYPE IT UP AND PRESENTED. AND GET IT SIGNED. 
          WE JUST NEED THREE? >> YEAH. WELL, NO. I TOOK THE AIRPORT ONE OFF. SO, IT'S ONLY ONE ADDITIONAL ONE. THERE'S TWO THAT ARE VERY SPARSE SOUTH AND KEYSTONE HEIGHTS BUT THEY DO CONNECT. THEY CONNECT COUNTIES AND STATE ROADS. 
          COUNTY ROAD 214 FROM STATE ROAD 100 TO STATE ROAD 21. IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR , IT'S AFFECTIONATELY KNOWN AS FROM THE GIZMO INTO THE SOUTH PART -- 
          >> THE GOOD WINN DIXIE. >> MIDWAY. AND THEN WE RESURFACED IMMOKALEE BUT I WILL TELL YOU IMMOKALEE NEED SOME SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. IT CONNECTS STATE ROAD 21 AND STATE ROAD 100 IN BRADFORD COUNTY . THIS OTHER ONE GOES TO BRADFORD COUNTY AS WELL. THERE ARE REAL -- THE COUNTY DID NOT HAVE THE MONEY. WE RESURFACED IMMOKALEE THE CLAY PART. 
          BRADFORD HAS NOT FIXED THEIR PART. BUT IT HAS SOME SAFETY NEEDS. I CRINGE THINKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY . A FIRE TRUCK MEETING A CAR THERE. OR, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE CAMPERS AND, LIKE, TRAILERS BEHIND CARS WHICH WE ESTABLISHED ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DRIVE BUT THOSE MEET EACH OTHER ON THAT ROAD AND SOMEBODY HAS TO DROP THEIR TIRES OFF BECAUSE IT WAS BUILT AT THE OLD WITH SO THE LANES ARE 20 FEET VERSUS 24 OR 
          WHATEVER. >> WE FOUND THEM TO BE BETWEEN NINE AND 10 FEET FOR A TOTAL OF 18 TO 20 FEET WIDE IN PLACES 
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AND WHEN WE RESURFACE THE BUDGET THAT WE PRESENT TO YOU ANNUALLY THAT IS A TRUE RESURFACING OF WHAT IS OUT THERE. WHEN WE DO THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, THAT CAN ADD SHOULDER WIDTH, BIKE LANE TO THE ROAD. WE DID THAT ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO ON COUNTY ROAD 315 C OVER IN THE MCRAE AREA . 
          OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IT BECAME EVEN MORE OF A HIGH SPEED ROAD, IT IS SAFER. VERY SAFE. IT'S A FULL EVALUATION THAT WAS DONE WITH TPO FINES AT THAT TIME. BOTH OF THESE WERE REQUESTING SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AND NO NEED FOR CAPACITY 
          IMPROVEMENT, RIGHT? >> RIGHT. YEAH. 
          >> THESE ARE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. 
          >> K, RICHARD, WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT ON ADDING BUGGY WITH TO THIS LIST? I KNOW IT DOESN'T CONNECT TO 23 LIKE OLD JENNINGS DOES BUT I WAS LOOKING AT THE LIST AND YOU HAVE GOT OUT OF DISTRICT ONE NOVA TO 220 IT'S A SIMILAR SITUATION THERE. 
          >> IT WOULD, ON THE BACK PAGE, IF YOU WOULD REMEMBER , THIS ALSO ALLOWS THE GRANTS DEPARTMENT TO REFER TO THIS LIST IF SOMETHING COMES UP , I GAVE THE EXAMPLE OF THE CHARTER SCHOOLS BEING PLACED IN NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS . THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY ACCORDING TO FLORIDA LAW. 
          THAT PUTS IT ON THE ROAD LIKE A CANOVA OR LIKE A BUGGY WHIP. 
          IT'S PROBABLY A LOT OF FOLKS THAT USE OR WILL USE THAT ROAD TO GET THEIR KID THERE. SO, IT WILL DEFINITELY -- EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT CONNECTED TO A STATE ROUTE IT ALLOWS THAT'S WHY WE KEEP WE KNOW THE ATTENTION THAT IT NEEDS . 
          >> SO, BEFORE YOU WRITE BUGGY WHIP DOWN. CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT WHETHER IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO ADD BUGGY WHIP OR THE EXTENSION WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LAST WEEK. IT WOULD BE MORE OF A -- LONG BAY IS A DOTTED ROAD , DASHED LINE ROAD 
          I BELIEVE ON OUR MAP. >> IF YOU ADDED -- YES, MA'AM. 
          THAT IS A VERY EASY YES. -- >> TO BOTH? 
          >> AGAIN, WE GO GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THE ABILITY. WE'VE GOT A SHORT LESSON ON WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO GET LONG BAY IS DEFINITELY OUT OF THE CONTROL OF WE'VE GOT TO GET 
          RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR IT. >> IN THE SAME WAY THAT YOU 
          WOULD WITH BUGGY WITH. >> CORRECT. I DON'T THINK I WOULD DO BOTH. YOU WOULD HAVE AN AREA BUT TO CONNECT TO THAT PART OF OLD JENNINGS AND LONG BAY TO THE OAKLEY COMMUNITY WOULD BE -- BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN DO IT IS THE NORTH-SOUTH WHAT I CALL COLLECTOR DISTRIBUTORS CHALLENGER AND DISCOVERY AND YOU HAVE GOT A BIG U-TURN EITHER GOING TO WHERE YOU ARE COMING, GOING TO WHERE YOU'RE COMING BACK. SO, THAT WOULD BE A VERY SENSIBLE ROAD TO PUT ON 
          THE LIST. >> I LIKE SERVING WITH YOU. 
          >> PEOPLE BEFORE YOU PUT THE ROAD ON BECAUSE I DON'T THING THEY WANTED TO BE A RACETRACK. I KNOW WE HAVE VERY DIFFICULT LANDOWNERS ON FEED MILL IN ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES. HE OWNS THAT OVER THERE TOO. I WOULD RATHER SEE, I THINK WE SHOULD WORK WITH DIFFICULT LANDOWNERS TO GET RIGHT-OF-WAY VERSUS GIVING YOU A TON OF UPSET HOMEOWNERS ON BUGGY WITH BEARD 
          . >> THE ONLY REASON BUGGY WITH WAS ON MY RADAR WAS I HAD A CONSTITUENT CALL ME OUT AND THEN I HAD ANOTHER CONSTITUENT ASKING ABOUT THE LONG BAY EXTENSION. WE HOPPED ON A CALL . SO, I AM HAVING -- I KNOW THAT THAT AREA NEEDS ATTENTION. THAT'S WHY I PIVOTED TO YOU, RICHARD, TO SHARE. AGAIN, OF COURSE, BUGGY WIDTH WAS YOURS BEFORE IT WAS MINE. SO, YOU GET IT. 
          >> RIGHT. >> YOU KNOW, SO, IF YOU TALK TO PUBLIC SAFETY, IT'S REALLY HARD ON THAT EQUIPMENT. YOU KNOW, GOING DOWN BUGGY WIDTH, I GET IT. THEY MIGHT SAY THEY 
          WANTED ON THERE. I DON'T KNOW. >> THEY WANT BOTH. I CAN ANSWER 
          FOR THEM. >> THEY WOULD REALLY LIKE US TO 
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OPEN UP THE BACK AND SO WE CAN CONNECT TO FOX MEADOW BUT THAT 
          IS FOR ANOTHER NIGHT. >> LONG BAY EXTENSION IS WHAT WE CALL -- WE ARE LOOKING AT IT AS AN ADEQUATE PUBLIC FACILITY. 
          YEAH. IT IS. YEAH. HAVING ON THE LIST, HAVING ON THE WISH LIST, THEY BOTH ARE PRETTY LONG WISHES BUT, NO, I WOULDN'T OBJECT TO HAVING IT ON THE LIST. 
          >> I HAVE A QUESTION. MY PARENTS USED TO LIVE OUT AT CECIL FIELD AND I THOUGHT THAT CECIL COMMERCE CONNECTOR THING WAS CONNECTED AND IT WENT DOWN THE OTHER DAY TO GET FROM ARGYLE, IS IT ARGYLE? TO CECIL BUT IT'S A DEAD END. THROUGH 
          THE WOODS. >> IS IN DUVAL COUNTY. 
          >> WELL, IT STARTS IN CLAY. YOU KNOW THAT? 
          >> IT DOES NOT STARTING CLAY. IT STARTS NORTH OF THE COUNTY LINE. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. 
          >> YES, MA'AM. BUT IT WOULD -- I DON'T -- I'VE NEVER DRIVEN ON IT. THE COUNTY MANAGER DOESN'T ALLOW IT. I HAVE MY 
          RESTRICTIONS. >> I TRY NOT TO GET ON 23. 
          >> I FOUND OUT IN TAMPA YOU GET ONE OF THOSE SCOOTERS AND YOU GO TO CERTAIN PLACES AND SOMEHOW THE SATELLITE SAYS YOU CAN'T GO ANY FURTHER. IT'S LIKE THAT WHEN I CROSS THE 
          ARGYLE FOREST. SO, >> IMAGINE HOW THE FOLKS IN 
          CHESWICK OAKS FEEL. >> 
          TRUE. >> IT'S ON OUR LIST. 
          >> THEY DO IT TWICE A DAY EVERY DAY, DON'T THEY? I MEAN, THEY LITERALLY HAVE TO. BUT LONG BAY GOING ON THE LIST, IF WE PUT THAT IN THE 16 TO 20 CATEGORY, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S NOT ANYTHING ELSE, YES, MA'AM. SO. 
          >> OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU ARE ASKING ME A QUESTION, WERE YOU, 
          RICHARD? >> WELL, SHOULD WE PUT THEM BOTH ON OR CHOOSE ONE OF THEM? 
          >> WELL, I DEFER TO -- I AT LEAST WANT ONE OF THEM. IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THE LONG BAY EXTENSION OF THE TWO WOULD MAKE 
          MORE SENSE. >> IS GOING TO SERVE MORE PEOPLE. IT GOES THEIR PROPERTY. WHAT WE DON'T OWN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THERE IS NO ONE OPPOSING IT. THEY JUST WANT TO BE COMPENSATED FOR IT. THE RESIDENCE, YEAH. 
          >> THE CONCERN ABOUT BUGGY WIDTH. 
          >> THE BUGGY WIDTH IS A MUCH MORE PERSONAL CONCERN. 
          >> I DON'T WANT THEM SENDING YOU RING DOORBELL CAMERA VIDEOS OF HOW MANY CARS ARE GOING BY. I GET THOSE. YOU DON'T WANT 
          THOSE. >> SO. 
          >> THEY CAN DO TRAFFIC COUNTS FOR RICHARD ON THE RING 
          DOORBELL. Ú>> OH, MY GOSH. 
          >> YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE ENOUGH DIRECTION FROM US TO 
          COME UP WITH THE LIST? >> LET'S START AT THE TOP. 
          WHAT'S NUMBER ONE. >> OLD JENNINGS. 
          >> IT DOESN'T MATTER. >> WELL, IF IT MATTERS, THEN 
          LET'S TALK ABOUT IT. >> I DEFER. THE COUNTY MANAGER. 
          I MEAN, YOU JUST WANT TO QUICKLY GO FROM ONE DOWN THE LINE. HE MAY NOT EVEN GET TO 20, BY THE LOOKS OF IT. YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO AN ODD NUMBER. 
          >> 17 OR 18. >> YES, SIR CORRECT. 
          >> BUT, YEAH. I THINK THAT IT'S UP FOR DISCUSSION 220 OUT OF THE NUMBER ONE SLOT. YOU REPLACE IT WAS SOMETHING OR DO YOU MOVE EACH ONE BELOW THAT OF ONE. THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE 
          DISCUSSION IS. >> MAYBE A COMPROMISE IS WE MOVE TO THROUGH FIVE UP AND THEN ADD OLD JENNINGS IN AT SLOT FIVE. IS THAT A COMPROMISE? OKAY. 
          >> YES. >> OKAY. 
          >> AND IT'S FINE FOR THE TURN LANE TO STAY DOWN THERE. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO PULL IT UP. THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT. IT'S 
          NOT AN EXPENSIVE PROJECT. >> YES. AND THE ONE THAT WE THINK WE WILL GET AS A DEFAULT IS ITEM 15 . WE THINK THE RESURFACING OF THAT AREA WHICH BEGINS SUMMER OF '26 WILL INCORPORATE A LEFT TURN LANE INTO 18. SO. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> MADAM CHAIR, BUT ALSO THE STAR ON 14 WILL REMAIN THERE STILL BECAUSE KEYSTONE WANTS 
          THAT. >> CORRECT. 
          >> AND THEN, YOU ADDED LONG BAY AND THEN WHAT OTHER ONE? YOU'RE 
          UP TO 16, RICHARD? >> NO, WE HAVE ADDED. 
          >> PUBLIC MATH, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE GOT IT. 
          >> USING THE MATH WERE GOING TO HAVE 15. WE WILL STAY INTACT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ORDER AND THEN 16 THROUGH 20 WILL BE 
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LONG BAY EXTENSION IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER. LONG BAY EXTENSION SR 21 INTERSECTION PRIVILEGE WILL MOVE UP INTO THE TOP 15. OLD JENNINGS ROAD, IMMOKALEE ROAD AND COUNTY ROAD 
          214. >> JENNINGS WILL MOVE UP TO TOP 
          FIVE. >> UP TO NUMBER FIVE. 
          >> CORRECT. >> OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY AGAIN, AND IT'S IMPORTANT IN THE SENSE THAT COUNTY ROAD 220 HAS BEEN THERE IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE WE WERE ELECTED. IT'S 
          BEEN NUMBER ONE THAT LONG. >> YES. HE WAS THERE TOO. 
          >> SO, YOU TAKE IT OFF? >> NO. MOVE IT DOWN. RIGHT? 
          >> I WOULD SAY YOU KEEP IT OFF. >> A REASON TO KEEP IT ON WOULD BE THE FACT THAT IT IS SHOVEL READY. AND IT'S TO THE POINT OF I THINK THE ESTIMATES ARE IN THE 18 TO 18 MILLION+ RANGE TO GO FROM HOLLERS PLACE TO BAXLEY. IT IS ALREADY EXCEPT FOR THE BIDDING AND THE CONSTRUCTION. SO, THAT WOULD BE 
          A REASON TO KEEP IT SOMEWHERE. >> WOULD YOU MOVABLE OF 15? 
          THAT MAKES IT BELOW THERE. >> YEAH. NO. I WOULD NOT. I WOULD PROBABLY, AGAIN, IT'S MUCH MORE READY TO GO THEN A INAUDIBLE ]. AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE STATE ROAD CONNECTION AT THIS TIME. SO, THEY MAY BE THE ONES TO DROP SOME. 
          >> SO, WE CAN FINALIZE THIS BECAUSE WERE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK ON THE 28TH. 
          >> CORRECT. >> WHAT NUMBER DO YOU WANT TO 
          PUT IT TO? >> WHERE IS IT GOING TO? 
          >> A 10. WE PUT IT BETWEEN CHESWICK AND THE STATE ROAD 21 INTERSECTION FROM HALPERIN'S ROAD SOUTH. THE REASON THAT IS BECAUSE THE ONE THAT WE REALLY WANT ON THERE TO MAKE TO HIGHLIGHT IS THE STATE ROAD 21 AND 100 INTERSECTION . WE ARE 
          SETTING IT ASIDE. >> RIGHT. 
          >> WE COULD EVEN PUT IT UP THAT HIGH. 
          >> THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE FOR MADAM CHAIR, IF YOU DON'T MIND, ON PAGE FIVE OF FIVE, WHAT IS PRESENTED THERE IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH? JUST TO MAKE SURE THE BOARD GIVES ITS CONSENT ON PAGE NUMBER FIVE. NON-ROADWAY 
          CAPACITY AND REQUEST? >> CORRECT. WE SUBMIT A TRAILS LIST AND CURRENTLY OUR NUMBER ONE IS THE NORTHEAST SPOT OF GREENWAY WHICH WE WERE RECOMMENDED TO BREAK INTO PARTS AS WE WON'T GET FUNDING FOR THE ENTIRE CONNECTION FROM LONG BAY ROAD AND STATE ROAD 21 TO BRANCH STATE PARK. WE BROKE IT UP INTO PENNEY FARMS TO GO AHEAD AND RENT STATE PARK STATE ROAD 16 AND THEN GOING DOWN STATE ROAD KEYS DONE IN THE STATE OFFICES WITH STATE DESIGNERS, AND WE PRETTY MUCH ARE TOLD WHEN THEY GET DONE. PRIORITY 1D IS THROUGH MIDDLEBURG TO THE MIDDLEBURG FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH THERE AT THE CORNER OF 218 AND BLANDING, THEN 218 TO THE PENNY FARMS INTERSECTION. 
          THAT IS ONE ON THAT 218 PORTION WOULD BE HANDLED THE SAME WAY WE ARE DESIGNING THE SUN TRAIL PORTION THAT GOES ALONG OLD JENNINGS AND LONG BAY. 
          WE WILL GET AN APPROPRIATION. WE'LL SELECT A DESIGNER. 
          WE'LL DESIGN IT, PERMIT IT, BID IT AND OVERSEE THE CONSTRUCTION OF IT WITH STATE FUNDING. 
          MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THAT STATE AT THE VERY TOP OF THE LIST, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE THAT IN SPEAKING WITH NTPO HIERARCHY, THAT'S ONE WE COULD GET. 
          THAT'S ONE THEY WOULD FUND QUICKER THAN THE OTHER 
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SECTIONS. WE CAN MAKE A CASE THERE THERE'S A SIDEWALK IN PENNY FARMS. DOESN'T GO VERY FAR, BUT THERE IS ONE THERE. 
          WE WILL TIE INTO THE EXISTING SIDEWALK ON BLANDING THROUGH MIDDLEBURG. 
          NOT CONSIDERED A TRAIL, BUT IT WOULD HAVE A CONTINUOUS CONNECTION. NUMBER TWO IS OVER ON U.S. 17 AS YOU COME SOUTH YOU'LL NOTICE A FEW OF THE DEVELOPERS THAT CAME IN WERE REQUIRED TO BUILD SIDEWALKS ON THEIR FRONTAGE. THERE'S GAPS IN THAT AREA. 
          THAT GOT FUNDED THIS AFTERNOON. 
          >> OH. 
          >> SO WE HAVE MONEY TO DO THAT, AND WE WILL BEGIN OUR ESTIMATING OF THAT IN THE MORNING TO SEE JUST HOW MANY BRIDGES WE NEED AND HOW MANY LINEAR FEET OF SIDEWALK TO CONNECT THE SIDEWALK THAT STARTS AT HIBERNIA ROAD AND COMES TO GREEN COAST SPRINGS, THE TRAIL. 
          THE SIDEWALK ALONG 220, THAT'S THE SECTION IN FRONT OF THE TARGET AND PUBLIC SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT'S NOT BEEN COMPLETED. 
          IT'S ON THERE. WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO ELIMINATE NUMBER FOUR. NUMBER FOURFOUR A -- BY TPO HIERARCHY, NUMBER FOUR IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          THAT WOULD COME OUT OF THE TOWN OF ORANGE PARK. 
          IT WILL GO UNDER 295 ALONG THE CSX RAIL, IS THE PROPOSAL AND COME OUT NEAR NAS JACKS. TPO DOESN'T THINK THERE'S A CHANCE THAT WILL COME TO 
          FRUITION. >> CSX WILL NEVER APPROVE 
          THAT. >> NO. 
          AND I WAS INVOLVED IN ONE AT A VERY BUSY INTERCHANGE AND IT WAS $57 MILLION TO GET THROUGH AN INTERCHANGE. AND THAT WAS WHEN THEY WERE REBUILDING THE INTERCHANGE. THERE WAS NO TRAIL PUT IN WHEN THEY REBUILT 295 AND 17. 
          IF THEY HAD PUT A BIKE PATH OR A TRAIL THERE, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE FORWARD THINKING, BUT THAT WASN'T CONTEMPLATED. 
          THE OLD HARD ROAD SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE GOT OUR HANDOUT. THAT AREA WE HEARD IN RECENT PUBLIC ZONING HEARINGS THAT THERE'S AN AREA THERE THAT'S ASKING FOR IT. 
          THE MUNICIPALITY REQUESTS ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME ONES WE'VE HAD. 
          GREEN COVE IS TRYING TO GET READY FOR THE TRAIL GOING OVER THE BRIDGE TO THE BEACH, AND THAT'S FIXED. 
          THE ONE FROM ORANGE PARK, AGAIN, THAT'S PART OF THE ONE -- I'LL HAVE TO CHECK WITH MR. SHEFFIELD. WE'LL LEAVE THAT ON THE IT DOESN'T INCLUDE CSX INVOLVEMENT. 
          BUT I THINK IT DOESN'T, DOESN'T IT, COMMISSIONER RENNINGER? 
          >> I THINK IT DOES, YEAH. 
          >> I KNOW HE WANTED US. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME STUFF AT RAILROAD AVENUE, WHICH IS THERE BY THE RAIL CAR PARKED AT THE DOCTORS LAKE INTERSECTION. 
          >> RIGHT. 
          >> I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER NON- CAPACITY ROADWAYS THAT WE WANT TO PUT ON 
          HERE. >> OKAY. 
          SO YOU NEED A VOTE FROM US BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING. 
          YOU HAVE TO TURN THIS IN BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING, IS THAT 
          CORRECT? >> IS THAT -- 
          >> 24. 
          >> SO LET ME JUST RECAP. IF WE CAN GET A MOTION, IF EVERYONE IS COMFORTABLE, THE ORDER RICHARD HAS BUT WE ARE ADDING ONTO OUR CURRENT LIST OULD OLD JENNINGS FROM STATE ROAD 23 TO LONG BAY AND A FEW OTHER COUNTY ROADS THAT ARE GOING TO GO BELOW THE 15 LINE AND JUST MOVING AROUND SOME OF THE ORDER IN THE REST OF THEM ON THE ROAD LIST. AND THEN ON THE PAGE OF THE NON- ROADWAY CAPACITY PROJECTS, WE'RE REMOVING NUMBER FOUR IN PRIORITY AT THE REQUEST OF THE TPO. 
          AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS BELOW IT TO APPROVE THE PRIORITY LIST, WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. AUTHORIZE STAFF TO APPLY FOR GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE RELATED TO ANY OF THE ROADS ONON LIST AND THEN AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THOSE GRANT APPLICATIONS. 
          >> AND, RICHARD, WE'VE HAD SOME LATE BREAK IN TALKING TO MERCER AND TALKING TO SPEAKER DESIGNATE GARRISON. 
          ON 1 C, D AND E, IF YOU COULD GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PROVIDE SYNERGY BETWEEN FDOT AND WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE. I DON'T TYPICALLY LIKE TO LEAVE SOMETHING C, D AND E, WHEN SOMEBODY GOES, WELL, A AND B ARE ALREADY DONE. 
          SOMEBODY'S GOING TO LOOK AT IT AND GO, WELL, WHAT HAPPENED 
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TO A AND B? WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO IT. IF YOU COULD GIVE US FLEXIBILITY ON THE SUN TRAIL THREE. 
          >> IS ANYONE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH 
          THAT? >> THAT'S GOOD. 
          >> PERFECT. 
          >> OKAY. IF EVERYONE'S COMFORTABLE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE TPO LIST WITH THE ONE ADDITION, AND RICHARD WILL BRING BACK AND TELL US WHAT HE SUBMITTED ON THE FINAL LIST AND THEN AUTHORIZE THE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES AND THE COUNTY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THOSE. 
          >> I DO. 
          >> SHE MADE THE MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL JUST REASSURE YOU IF WE FEEL LIKE IN OUR MEETING ON THE 28TH WE HAVE MADE AN ERROR, WE CAN GIVE IT TO JEFF SHEFFIELD. IF ANYONE'S UNCOMFORTABLE -- AS WE SAW TONIGHT, IT'S ALWAYS FIXABLE. YEAH. 
          OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          [31.  Discussion of Appointment to the Clay County Historic Preservation Board]
MOTION CARRIES 5-0. 
          >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. 
          >> GREAT DISCUSSION. THANK YOU ALL. 
          >> WE HAVE NOW AT ITEM NUMBER 31, WHICH IS A DISCUSSION OF APPOINTMENT TO THE CLAY COUNTY HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD. IT'S AN APPLICATION WAS RECEIVED FROM TERRY KNIGHT FOR CONSIDERATION TO THE DISTRICT 2 VA VACANCY ON THE BOARD. 
          >> DISTRICT 2? 
          >> SORRY, COMMISSIONER COMPERE. >> THAT'S OKAY. 
          SO I ASKED THE SAME QUESTION. APPARENTLY THESE DISTRICTS ARE DRAWN NOT CONSISTENT WITH OUR COUNTY LINES. 
          I STRUCK OUT TOO. SO THIS ONE IS OPEN FOR ALL OF US TO WEIGH IN ABOUT THE VACANCY ON THE BOARD. 
          >> MY INCLINATION IS IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SERVE ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD, I CHEER THAT, BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET PEOPLE TO SERVE ON THAT. AND SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT PERSON IF -- COMMISSIONER RENNINGER? 
          >> WELL, DOES ANYBODY KNOW THIS 
          PERSON? >> I DO NOT. 
          I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THERE WAS SOMETHING ON THE APPLICATION THAT WAS A LITTLE CONCERNING. 
          >> RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING 
          TO SAY. >> I KNEW THAT. 
          BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S A HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD. 
          >> WELL -- 
          >> LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. 
          >> ARE THEY NOT HERE? 
          >> ARE THEY HERE, MR. KNIGHT, MRS. KNIGHT, TERRY KNIGHT? NO? # 
          >> I WOULD RECOMMEND SOMEBODY EITHER KNOW HIM OR TALK TO HIM JUST TO MAKE SURE HE KNOWS WHAT THE BOARD IS ALL ABOUT. 
          WE COULD DO THIS NEXT MEETING. 
          >> SO YOU'RE -- 
          >> TABLE IT. 
          >> TABLE IT? 
          >> SOMEBODY SHOULD SPEAK WITH HIM. 
          >> I SECOND THAT. OR WAS THAT A MOTION? 
          >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION WE TABLE 
          IT. >> OKAY. 
          >> I'LL WITHDRAW MY FIRST MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          >> THAT'S RIGHT. 
          >> SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE IT AND HAVE SOMEONE HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THIS PERSON. 
          >> OKAY. 
          >> WHO'S GOING TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION? IS THAT ME? IS THAT LEFT TO ME? 
          >> DOES IT HAVE TO BE JUST YOU? I MEAN, WOULDN'T WE ALL HAVE TO CAST THE VOTE? SO ANY ONE OF US COULD PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL HIM, RIGHT? 
          >> OH YEAH. 
          >> YOU WEREN'T MAKING A MOTION FOR A SPECIFIC PERSON, RIGHT? OR WAS THAT YOUR -- 
          >> WITH THIS POSITION WITH THIS APPLICANT, I THINK WE OUGHT TO EITHER KNOW TO OR THERE'S QUESTIONS. 
          SO SOMEBODY OUGHT TO SPEAK WITH HIM AND JUST SEE IF IT'S RIGHT FOR THE BOARD. I MEAN, THE NEXT ONE WE HAVE LATER ON IN THE AGENDA, SEVERAL OF US KNOW THE INDIVIDUAL. 
          >> CORRECT. OKAY. 
          >> SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          IF ANYONE WANTS TO CALL AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, I WOULD PREFER TO NOT HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ON THE BOARD FLOOR. 
          SO I WILL MAKE A PHONE CALL. IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO, PLEASE DO. A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          [32.  Tourist Development Council Appointment (T. Capo/K. Morgan)]
          >> AYE. 
          >> BRING THAT BACK TO US ON THE NEXT AGENDA, PLEASE. 
          WE HAVE A TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL APPOINTMENT, EXCITING, EXCITING, FOR THE TOWN OF PENNEY FARMS ON THE COUNCIL FROM '25 TO '29. MR. ADRIANNE DREWS OH WILL SERVE 
          [05:05:02]
ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN COUNCIL. 
          >> ADRIAN IS AWESOME. HE'S PERSONALLY INVITED ME TO PENNEY FARMS. 
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION? 
          >> AND A SECOND. 
          >> OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I THINK IT'S AN OUTSTANDING CHOICE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE? 
          [33.  Bid Opening Tabulations (K. Smith)]
MOTION CARRIES 5-0. ALL RIGHT. 
          WE HAVE SOME BID TABULATION OPENINGS AS OUR TAX COLLECTOR ALLUDED TO A NUMBER OF HOURS AGO. WE ARE OPENING THAT BID TABULATION FOR THE ORANGE PARK 
          [PUBLIC COMMENTS]
OFFICE, WHICH THEY ARE DESPERATELY IN NEED OF, SO THEY APPRECIATE THAT. ALL RIGHT. 
          WE ARE TO OUR SECOND PUCOBLIC COMMENT. 
          IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? EVERYBODY THAT I HAD A SPEAKER CARD FOR WERE THE OPLE THAT WERE HERE ON RUSSELL AND THEY ALL LEFT. 
          NO. I'M SORRY. 
          MR. WEEKS. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I WAS ABOUT TO SKIP OVER 
          YOU. >> THAT'S 
          OKAY. >> YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE WHO STAYED. 
          >> THEY ALL BAILED. I'M HIGHLY REGRETTING NOT EATING SOMETHING BEFORE THIS MEETING. 
          >> ME TOO. 
          >> I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, JUST ADRESS ADDRESS APOLOGIZING NOT COMING SOONER. WE JUST DIDN'T QUANTITY TO WANT TO HAVE ANY REGRETS. I WISH WE HAD SPOKE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE TEAM AT THE TIME. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK. 
          I KNOW THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, THEY HAVE A LOT OF STUFF TO MANAGE. THE CHALLENGE WITH THIS TYPE OF PROJECT IS YOU WANT TO APPLY PRINCIPLES OF THE PLAN EVENLY ACROSS THE PROJECT. BUT LIKE COMMISSIONER SGROMOLO SAID EARLIER, THIS IS A UNIQUE CASE THAT KIND OF CALLS FOR A UNIQUE CONSIDERATION. SO MONEY IS POSSIBLY GOING TO BE A CONSIDERATION. YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT BALANCING THAT. MONEY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AT A COMMUNITY HUB IS PROBABLY WORTH BEING CONSIDERED. 
          I THINK YOU GUYS ALREADY MENTIONED THAT. 
          BUT I JUST WANTED TO REENFORCE THAT. IT DELAYS OUR CONSIDERATION I WOULD SAY NOT LIKELY MUCH TO CONTRIBUTE IN DELAYS WITH THIS CHANGE POSSIBLY, BUT IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, I THINK THIS IS ONE DELAY THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD BE PROBABLY WORTHY OF CONVERSATION FOR. 
          AND SO WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY ASKING FOR SPECIAL TREATMENT JUST BECAUSE WE'RE A CHURCH. 
          REALLY IT'S JUST CONSIDERING THE VOLUME OF PEOPLE COMING ON AND COMING OFF AT ONE TIME, NOT JUST ON SUNDAYS. WE HAVE MULTIPLE DAYS WHERE IT'S HIGH- VOLUME TRAFFIC. 
          WE HAVE UPWARD SPORTS, WHERE WE DO SOCCER, FLAG FOOTBALL. 
          WE'RE DOING BASKETBALL RIGHT NOW. 
          OUR SOCCER LEAGUE THAT JUST FINISHED THIS PAST YEAR, WE HAD CLOSE TO 600 PEOPLE EVERY RIDAY NIGHT FOR THE FULL SEASON PULLING UP LAWN CHAIRS, WATCHING THEIR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS PLAY BALL ON OUR 28 ACRES OUT BACK. 
          SO YOU CAN IMAGINE EVERYBODY COMING ON AND COMING OFF. ALSO OUR TRUNK-OR-TREAT EVENT. 
          WHEN I E- MAILED YOU GUYS, I TRIED TO INCLUDE A DRONE PHOTO OF OUR PARKING SITUATION AT THAT EVENT ALONE. 
          IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN TO ONE, IT'S PROBABLY, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE LARGEST OF THAT TYPE OF EVENT IN THE COUNTY. IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING ON AND OFF. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THOSE THINGS OUT. ON SITE MITIGATION ON PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS, WE'VE HAD A YEAR TO KIND OF BRAINSTORM CREATIVE SOLUTIONS FROM OUR STAFF OR TRUSTEES. AND WE'VE CONCLUDED THAT IT WILL STILL BE LESS SAVE TODAY THAN IT IS TODAY AS IT STANDS. NO MATTER WHAT WE DO TO TRY AND MITIGATE, WE DON'T FEEL LIKE WE COULD COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT WILL MAKE MORE PEOPLE SAFE INSTEAD OF LESS. I'M ALMOST DONE. 
          SO SORRY. SO TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO ATTEMPT AT JOINING THOSE PARK LOTS TOGETHER, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE TENABLE. THE CROSS CREEK EASEMENT IS PROBLEMATIC AS A PRIMARY ENTRANCE. 
          YOU GUYS DISCUSSED SOME OF THOSE THINGS, BUT SOMETHING THAT WASN'T DISCUSSED IS NEW PEOPLE TRYING TO FIND THEIR WAY ON OUR CAMPUS WILL HAVE NO IDEA 
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HOW TO NAVIGATE TO THE BACK OF CROSS CROOK TO CREEK TO THE BACK OF OUR PROPERTY TO GET ON. 
          I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED WITH THAT. PAYING AN OFF- DUTY OFFICER ISN'T AN ISSUE. 
          WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE SAFELY ON AND OFF. 
          >> THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          I KNOW THIS IS A HARD AND THANKLESS JOB. 
          IN THE WORDS OF NICK SABAN, IF YOU WANT EVERYTHING TO AGREE WITH YOU, SELL ICE CREAM, DON'T BE A LEADER. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP. 
          >> WE APPRECIATE IT. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK AT PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. 
          COUNTY ATTORNEY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? 
          [COUNTY ATTORNEY]
SORRY, COMMISSION AUDITOR. OKAY. 
          COUNTY ATTORNEY. 
          >> JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS. 
          ONE IS A SHOUTOUT TO OUR ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          AS YOU MAY RECALL, THERE WAS AN ANIMAL SEIZURE THE DAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING OF 39 ANIMALS, AND THAT WAS DONE DUE TO ALLEGATIONS OF NEGLECT. 
          WE HAD A HEARING ON DECEMBER 30TH, AND THE COURT UPHELD OUR ANIMAL SERVICES DETERMINATION, AND THE STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY IN HAVING THOSE ANIMALS ADOPTED. THE NEXT IS THE -- EVERYBODY, I BELIEVE THAT THE COMMISSIONERS ALL RECEIVED NOTICE OF A PETITION THAT WAS SERVED ON US - ON -- IT WAS LIKE LAST WEEK, I THINK. A PETITION FOR RESOLUTION UNDER FLORIDA STATUTE SECTION 70.51. IT WAS IN CONNECTION WITH THE OLD HARD ROAD PETITION. AND UNDER THAT STATUTE IT SEEKS A RESOLUTION BY A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. 
          SO WE DO HAVE A MEETING SET UP FOR THIS THURSDAY WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER WHERE WE'LL BE MEETING WITH THE PARTIES IN CONNECTION WITH THAT WORKING THROUGH SELECTION OF THE MAGISTRATE IN THAT PROCESS. AND LASTLY, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CHAIR AS WELL AS WE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ONCOMING UP WITH SOME, I GUESS, ADDITIONAL PROCEDURES IN CONNECTION WITH OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS IN RELATION TO COMING UP WITH GUIDELINES FOR THE APPLICANTS' PRESENTATIONS AND ALSO EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS. SO WE'LL WORK THROUGH THOSE AND GET YOU BACK A DRAFT. 
          >> QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNTY AUDITOR? I MEAN, COUNTY ATTORNEY? OR DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING 
          [COUNTY MANAGER]
FURTHER, COMMISSION AUDITOR? OKAY. 
          NO QUESTIONS FOR EITHER OF YOU. THANK 
          YOU. >> MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS, WHAT A NIGHT. I THINK WE DEFINITELY GOT THROUGH SOME GREAT AREAS THERE. 
          I JUST WANT TO THANK CAROLINE, RICHARD, CHARLIE. 
          THESE WERE SOME HEAVY LISTS, AND ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO GET ALL THESE PARTICULAR DOCUMENTS BEFORE THE BOARD AND GET THEM FOR A VOTE AND MOVE THEM FORWARD. I ASKED MILTON TO COME UP. 
          I WANT TO DEFER THE REST OF MY TIME OVER TO MILTON. 
          HE HAS PREPARED A QUICK SLIDE HERE, REALLY TO TALK ABOUT THE HOLIDAY IMPACT AT ROSEMARY HILL AND OUR ECCS WITH REGARDS TO DROPOFF AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I ASKED HIM TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO ADDRESS THAT TO INFORM Y'ALL WHAT WE EXPERIENCED THERE AND WHAT EVERYTHING EXPERIENCED IF YOU TOOK YOUR TIME OFF AND CLEANED YOUR HOME AND CLEANED OUT YOUR GARAGE AND/OR GOT RID OF EXTRA CHRISTMAS GIFTS OR YOUR CHRISTMAS GIFTS REPLACED SOMETHING. WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO MILTON TO BRIEF YOU 
          ALL. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS. I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF HERE. 
          SO WE DID HAVE A MASSIVE IMPACT WITH HOLIDAY. 
          WE ALWAYS DO. HOWEVER, THIS EXCEEDED OUR EXPECTATIONS THIS YEAR. SO IN PART THAT'S DUE TO OUR CHANGES WITH OUR COLLECTION PROGRAM, SO WE'LL SEE IF IT'S THE NEW NORM OR NOT. BUT WHAT I'VE PLACED ON THIS FIRST SLIDE IS THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL VISITORS WE HAD TO ROSEMARY HILL. SO YOU SEE WE HAD A 59% INCREASE. OUR VISITS PER DAY HAD A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE THE WEEK OF CHRISTMAS THROUGH JANUARY 6TH. YET OUR POUNDS PER VISIT DECREASED. I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING. 
          IT MEANS MORE PEOPLE CAME, BUT THEY BROUGHT LESS ON AVERAGE. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY OUR TOTAL TONS WENT UP, BUT THAT WAS 
          [05:15:02]
JUST AN INTERESTING FACT AND I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU. SOME OF THE THINGS WE DID AND THAT WE WERE PLANNING TO IMPROVE UPON FOR NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE THE HOLIDAY IS GOING TO FALL SOMEWHAT THE SAME AS FAR AS IN THE WEEK . SO WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE WASTE MANAGEMENT AS OUR CONTRACTOR, CEI IS THEIR SUB, TO PROVIDE FULL- TIME TRAFFIC CONTROL PERSON TO DIRECT TRAFFIC, HELP PEOPLE GET TO THE RIGHT SPOTS AT THE RIGHT TIMES IN THE DISPOSAL AREAS. 
          PREVIOUSLY THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT WHEN IT GETS BUSY, BUT THIS AFTER CHRISTMAS FOR A WEEK OR SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE THEM HAVE SOMEBODY THERE FULL-TIME. YOU KNOW, IF THE GATES ARE OPEN, THEY NEED TO BE TAKING CARE OF THAT. ALSO, I CREDIT JAMIE FOR THIS. 
          WE GOT WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT TO HAVE WASTE MANAGEMENT PROVIDE A DEDICATED ROLL- OFF TRUCK AT OUR FACILITY TO KEEP PULLING THOSE SIX CONTAINERS THAT THE RESIDENTS DUMP IN. BECAUSE WHEN THOSE GET FULL, ONE, IT BACKS EVERYTHING UP, AND, TWO, IT FORCES THOSE RESIDENTS TO THEN GO TO THE TIPPING FLOOR IF THOSE BOXES AREN'T PULLED OFTEN ENOUGH. YOU KNOW, THE DAYS WHERE THEY WERE DOING IT, YOU KNOW, WITH CEIS SPARE TRUCK AND THEN WASTE MANAGEMENT SUPPLEMENTING THEM WHEN THEY BROUGHT IN A LOAD FROM SOME COMMERCIAL CUSTOMER AND THEN THEY'D PULL A COUPLE. 
          THAT PROVED INADEQUATE WITH OUR TRAFFIC. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A TRUCK THERE . 
          THE DAYS THAT WE DID THAT ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, WE HAD NO PROBLEMS. IT WAS BUSY, BUT TRAFFIC KEPT FLOWING. 
          SO THE BACKUP REALLY IS IN THE DISPOSAL AREA. 
          IT'S NOT REALLY TO SCALE. IT BACKED UP TO THERE AND TO THE GATE, BUT THE SLOWDOWN IN THE BACKUPS REALLY WERE CAUSED IN THE DISPOSAL AREA. SO OUR CONTRACTORS NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB. ANOTHER THING IS THEY DO HAVE AN ON-SITE SUPERVISOR, BUT A HIGHER LEVEL MANAGER, CEI'S MANAGER IS OVER FIVE TRANSFER STATION FACILITIES. SO WE'RE SAYING EITHER THAT PERSON NEEDS TO BE HERE OR WASTE MANAGEMENT NEEDS TO HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL MANAGER ON SITE DURING THIS BUSY TIME TO DEAL WITH ISSUES. UNFORTUNATELY, PART OF OUR ISSUES TOO IS CEI HAD A LOADER BREAK DOWN, AND UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS ON THE RAMP UP AT THE GARBAGE BUILDING, THE MSW BUILDING, SO IT MADE DUMPING TWO TRUCKS AT A TIME CHALLENGING BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE NORMAL AMOUNT OF ROOM TO TURN AROUND. 
          AS SOON AS THAT GOT REPAIRED, THEN IT GOT A WHOLE LOT BETTER. SO THAT ONE WAS ONE OF THOSE KIND OF UNAVOIDABLE THINGS, BUT HOPEFULLY WE COULD AVOID THAT NEXT TIME. AS FAR AS OUR STAFF, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BRING IN EXTRA STAFF TO PROVIDE MORE TRAFFIC CONTROL AT THE GATE IN THE SCALE HOUSE AREA TO HELP DIVERT PEOPLE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE TRUCKS THAT COME IN WITH THE BOXES FROM THE ECCS OR OUR CURBSIDE PROGRAM. THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE GREEN -- SPRINGS CURBSIDE TRUCKS OR HAUL IN CURBSIDE FROM ORANGE PARK. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM GO TO THE OUTSIDE SCALE AND MAKE IT COMMERCIAL ONLY, BECAUSE THOSE TRUCKS ALL HAVE TEAR WEIGHTS ALREADY, SO THEY HAVE TO WEIGH IN, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO WEIGH OUT. SO WE CAN BRING THEM KIND OF AROUND THE LINE, GIVE THEM PRIORITY SO THEY CAN GET DUMPED AND GET BACK OUT ON THEIR ROUTES. WE DID EXTEND OUR HOURS FOR FCC, BUT THAT WAS -- WE HAD TO BECAUSE THEY WERE IN LINE TOO LONG. 
          SO IF WE KIND OF GIVE THOSE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES PRIORITY ON GETTING OUR TRASH PICKED UP ATAT THE RESIDENCE AT THE STREET, THEN WE STILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND HOURS IF NECESSARY, BUT MAYBE WE CAN MAKE IT NOT NECESSARY AND KEEP TRAFFIC MOVING BETTER. SO OUR NEXT SLIDE. 
          WE HAD A GREATER IMPACTIMPACT THE ECCS. WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT. WE PUT EXTRA BOXES OUT. 
          NORMALLY OUR CONTRACTOR RUNS ONE TRUCK DURING THE WEEK AND 
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THEN THE WEEKENDS, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, THEY'LL RUN TWO TRUCKS TO DUMP BOXES AT THE ECCS. 
          THEY GAVE US FOUR TRUCKS, SO WE RAN FOUR TRUCKS THE ENTIRE TIME. STILL HAD TROUBLE KEEPING UP. 
          WE BASICALLY DOUBLED THE NUMBER OF VISITORS AND OUR TONNAGE WENT UP OVER 100%. THE CONTAINERS WE HAD TO PULL WENT UP 85%, THE NUMBER OF PULLS, EVEN WITH THOSE FOUR TRUCKS. 
          SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE. 
          YOU CAN ONLY PULL CONTAINERS SO FAST, AND DRIVING FROM KEYSTONE TO A TURNAROUND TRIP TAKES SO LONG. EVEN COMING FROM CLAY HILL TAKES A WHILE AND LONG BAY. SO IT WILL BE A CHALLENGE, BUT THINGS WE DID DO AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO IS WE ADDED ADDITIONAL ATTENDANTS. PRIMARILY THE ISSUES AROSE AT DOCTORS INLET AND THE LONG BAY SITES. AS YOU KNOW, LONG BAY IS NOW PRETTY WELL SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL. IT'S NO LONGER RURAL IN ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION. THAT SITE FOR ONE OF THE SMALLER SITES, ITS FOOTPRINT IS HANDLING A LOT OF TRAFFIC. WE PLACED EXTRA CONTAINERS FOR OVERFLOW. WE'RE MAKING PLANS FOR LOOKING AT NEXT YEAR TO INCREASE THOSE NUMBER OF EXTRA BOXES DEPENDING ON SPACE. 
          WE HAVE PLENTY OF SPACE AT DOCTORS INLET. 
          IN LONG BAY IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE TIGHTER, BUT WE CAN PUT A COUPLE EXTRA CONTAINERS THERE. IT MAY BE SOMETHING WHERE WE PUT 30 CONTAINERS INSTEAD OF 20, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GIVE MORE CAPACITY. 
          UNITED SITE SERVICES IS OUR CONTRACTOR. WE'RE LOOKING AT CAN THEY PROVIDE A FIFTH OR SIXTH DRIVER ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. 
          WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO FIND THAT OUT. AND THEN WE'RE DISCUSSING IN HOUSE TO ALLOW UNITED TO BRING ECC LOADS IN EARLIER SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 7:30 TO DUMP THE FIRST LOAD WHEN OUR SCALE HOUSE OPENS. 
          WE CAN HAVE SOMEBODY IN A SATELLITE SCALE HOUSE. 
          WE'VE GOT SOME WAYS TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE TEARED AND WE CAN WORK WITH THEM. 
          WE PAY THE DISPOSAL ON THOSE LOADS ANYWAY. 
          SO IT WON'T BE A BILLING ISSUE, SO WE CAN COME UP WITH A WAY TO HELP THEM GET IN EARLIER. 
          MAYBE THEY COULD DO MORE PULLS EARLIER. 
          MAYBE THEY COULD START AT 5:00 INSTEAD OF 6:00, THINGS LIKE THAT IN ORDER TO HELP THAT OUT. 
          AND THIS LIST IS NOT ALL ENCOMPASSING. 
          WE'RE STILL INVESTIGATING. WE'RE GOING TO MEET WITH STAFF AND SEE WHAT KIND OF IDEAS THEY HAVE, AND WE'LL SEE WHERE WE GO. 
          NORMALLY BY THE MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. HOLIDAY WE'RE BACK TO NORMAL. 
          WE'RE GOING TO SEE, BECAUSE SO FAR THE COLLECTION CENTERS 'T DROPPED BACK AS MUCH AS WE WOULD HAVE ANTICIPATED. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE. WE MAY HAVE A NEW NORMAL THAT'S MUCH BUSIER THAN WE WERE BEFORE. 
          A LOT OF OUR STAFF ARE TELLING US THAT THIS HOLIDAY SEASON THEY SAW A LOT OF PEOPLE THEY DON'T REMEMBER HAVING SEEN BEFORE, SO I THINK WE'RE GETTING NEW VISITORS. AND THEN ONCE YOU'RE DISCOVERED, THEY'RE LIKELY TO COME BACK. SO I WANT TO TOUCH ON SOME CURBSIDE NUMBERS. YOU KNOW, CURBSIDE DID REALLY WELL, HAD WAY FEWER REPORTED MISSES THAN WE THOUGHT THERE MIGHT BE. THERE WERE A LOT OF CALLS, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T PICK UP THE OVERFLOW. BUT THEY'RE DOING EXCEEDINGLY WELL. THE MISS RATIO IS REALLY LOW. 
          ALSO JUST TO DATE OUR EXTRA CARTS THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED WERE JUST NORTH OF 2600, WHICH IS 3. 5% OF OUR HOUSEHOLDS BY COUNT. 
          NOW, THAT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR SOME FOLKS GOT TWO EXTRA CARTS, BUT THAT'S 3.5%. WE WERE THINKING THAT NUMBER WAS GOING TO BE BETWEEN 5 AND 10, SO WE'RE STILL WELL BELOW THAT. 
          IT'S GROWING, BUT IT'S NOT GROWING AT AN ALARMING RATE. SO JUST A FACTOID THERE. 
          WE HAVE SOLD 9600 STICKERS. WELL, LET ME SAY THE LIBRARY 
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HAS. WE'VE SOLD FIVE. 
          SO THE LIBRARIES HAVE SOLD 9600 STICKERS THROUGH DECEMBER. 
          AND THE AMOUNT THAT WERE PURCHASED IN DECEMBER WAS MUCH HIGHER THAN NOVEMBER AND WAS ALMOST EQUIVALENT TO THE OCTOBER AMOUNT. AND THEN SCHEDULED COLLECTIONS, WE STARTED TRACKING ONON WEEKLY BASIS THE FIRST OF NOVEMBER. SO NOVEMBER TO DATE THERE'S BEEN JUST OVER 2900 RESIDENTS HAVE CALLED FCC AND SCHEDULED TO HAVE BULK COLLECTED. 
          SO PEOPLE ARE USING THAT PROGRAM. 
          WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS, WE'RE STILL PUTTING OUT INFORMATION ON THAT AND TRYING TO EDUCATE PEOPLE TO KNOW WHEN THEY HAVE THAT PIECE OF FURNITURE, THEY NEED TO MAKE A PHONE CALL AND THEN IT WILL BE SCHEDULED TO BE GOTTEN. OVER 29 FOLKS HAVE DONE THAT SO FAR. UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS -- 
          >> COMMISSIONER RENNINGER? 
          >> YOU SAY THERE WERE SOME RESIDENTS THAT GOT TWO EXTRA CARTS? 
          >> YES. 
          >> REALLY? 
          >> YES. AND SOME, I THINK I'VE SEEN THEM ON THE LIST A HIGHER NUMBER THAN TWO EXTRA, BUT TWO IS -- ONE IS THE NORM. 
          TWO IS NOT TOTALLY UNCOMMON. AND I KNOW SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO HAVE ORDERED ADDITIONAL CARTS ARE ONES THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE LITTLE FARMS GOING ON. 
          THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF EXTRA FEED FEEDBAGS AND THINGS OF THAT 
          NATURE TOO. >> A LOT OF TRASH. 
          >> OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MILTON? I'M GETTING A LOT OF REQUESTS, WHICH I KNOW THREE OF THE ECCS ARE IN MY 
          DISTRICT. >> YES. 
          >> OBVIOUSLY I THINK COMMISSIONER COMPERE'S WOULD -- TO LONG BAY. 
          AT ANY REQUEST, I'M GETTING LOTS OF REQUESTS FOR AN EXTRA DAY. SO I HOPE Y'ALL WILL START TRACKING. LIKE YOU SAID, IT MAY BE A NEW NORM. I THINK OUR RESIDENTS HAVE DISCOVERED THAT THAT'S -- AND NOT HAVE TO PAY $4 A BAG FOR THAT EXTRA BAG OF TRASH OR FOR THE DELIVERY. 
          I'M GETTING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT STAFFS' MOODS, IF YOU WILL, THAT THEY'RE PRETTY ANGRY. AND LIKE AT THE KEYSTONE ONE, I'VE HAD SEVERAL RESIDENTS WHO WERE TURNED AWAY FOR THINGS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DISPOSE THE PAST OR ARE BROUGHT BACK AND THE NEXT TIME THE PERSON IS IN A GOOD MOOD AND SAYS THEY CAN DISPOSE OF IT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE HAD -- I KNOW IN KEYSTONE THE LADY EVERYONE LOVED RETIRED, SO WE'VE HAD A STAFF CHANGE THERE. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER LOCATIONS. 
          >> THAT'S THE ONLY STAFF CHANGE. 
          AND LIKE THE PREVIOUS ATTENDANT, HE'S A RESIDENT DOWN THE STREET, SO HE IS A RESIDENT IN KEYSTONE. WE'RE WORKING TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE TRAINED AND WE WANT TO BE CONSISTENT, RIGHT. SO JAMIE HAD A STAFF MEETING A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WITH ALL THE FOLKS, BECAUSE THEY DO OTHER JOBS ON MONDAYS, THEIR FOURTH WORKDAY, YOU KNOW, COME AND COLLECT THE CARDBOARD FROM COUNTY OFFICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND GO AND BRING MATERIALS FROM THE ECCS, THE TIRES AND APPLIANCES. 
          WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING ANOTHER ONE THIS NEXT MONDAY JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE AND CONSISTENT. 
          A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE TAKEN IN THE OFFICE DURING THE CONVERSATION, THEY HAD OVER THE LIMIT. 
          I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S EVERY CASE. 
          AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WE HAVE TO BE PRETTY STRICT ON THE STANDARD FOR THE LIMIT. 
          OTHERWISE, WE'LL FILL UP EVEN SOONER. 
          BUT WE'VE HEARD SOME OF THE SAME. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE AND ESPECIALLY A NEWER EMPLOYEE TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW HE'S UNDERSTANDING THE INSTRUCTIONS AND APPLYING THEM ARE CONSISTENT WITH HOW WE'RE DOING IT. 
          >> AND I WOULD SAY LET'S, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TRY TO -- I DON'T KNOW IF -- THE CHICK FILL A 
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CUSTOMER SERVICE, BUT IF THEY CAN HAVE SOME GRACE -- WE TOOK AWAY A LOT OF ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO GET RID OF STUFF. YOU KNOW, THEY WERE USED TO PUTTING IT OUT AND WASTE MANAGEMENT TOOK IT. 
          >> RIGHT. 
          >> I GET THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE TALKED TO US INAPPROPRIATELY, HAVE TALKED TO STAFF INAPPROPRIATELY. 
          BUT IF WE CAN HAVE SOME GRACE AND A LITTLE BIT OF LEEWAY AND CERTAINLY NOT FOUL LANGUAGE AND NOT, YOU KNOW, RACIAL COMMENTS, I WOULD APPRECIATE. BUT THE OTHER ONE WAS A COMPLAINT AT THE CLAY HILL LOCATION, AND IT HAD TO DO WITH A GENTLEMAN WHO IS DISABLED. WE HAD THE OVERFLOW CONTAINER, AND HE WAS TOLD TO BUY A NEW TRUCK THAT COULD GO UP. AND HE CAN'T GET OUT OF HIS VEHICLE. SO HE WAS ASKING TO PUT IT IN THE OVERFLOW CONTAINER, AND THE ATTENDANT TOLD US KNOW. 
          SO I THINK WE HAVE SOME A.D.A. 
          ACCESSIBLE THINGS THAT MAYBE WE NEED SOME TRAINING ON. 
          IT WAS JUST REGULAR HOUSEHOLD TRASH. 
          AND THE OTHER COMPLAINT THAT I GOT AND I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO VERIFY THIS, BUT I DID HEAR IT FROM SEVERAL RESIDENTS IN ONE LOCATION IN THE CLAY HILL, MIDDLEBURG MEETING UP AREA, IS LIKE THEY HAD A PIECE OF WRAPPING PAPER STICKING OUT OF THEIR CAN AND THE DRIVER WOULDN'T DUMP IT. 
          I'VE SEEN OTHER CANS IN THE KEYSTONE AREA WHERE THE LID IS PARTIALLY STICKING UP AND THEY STILL DUMP IT. 
          HOWARD AND I LOOKED AT THE ONE VIDEO WHERE THE CAN WAS BACKWARDS AND THE DRIVER STILL BUMPED IT. 
          SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE WRAPPING PAPER ISSUEISSUE NOT REAL, BUT FOR THE PUBLIC'S SAKE, WE HAVE 18 CAMERAS ON THESE TRUCKS. SO WHEN YOU CALL US AND SAY, JUST MAKE SURE YOUR FACTS ARE STRAIGHT, BECAUSE WE CAN PULL THE VIDEO AND IT HAS AUDIO. 
          SO WE KNOW WHAT THE DRIVER SAYS. 
          WE'VE HAD SOME RESOLUTION BROUGHT TO SOME SITUATIONS FROM THAT, HAVEN'T WE? 
          >> WE HAVE. 
          >> BUT AT ANY RATE, I JUST WANTED TO -- 
          >> THE SERVICE VERIFICATION SYSTEM IS A WONDERFUL TOOL. 
          >> YEAH. ANYWAY, IF YOU COULD JUST KIND OF TALK ABOUT CUSTOMER SERVICE, I WOULD APPRECIATE 
          THAT. >> DEFINITELY WILL. 
          >> ANYTHING ELSE FOR MILTON? 
          THANKS. >> I DO. 
          WELL, I APPRECIATE THE REPORT, BUT I'M BOILING OVER CONCERNING THE DETAILS, BECAUSE WHEN WE FIRST REVIEWED THE CHANGES THAT WERE GOING TO HAPPEN, I MENTIONED ON THE BOARD FLOOR THEN AND I'M SEEING THE VALIDITY OF MY CONCERN BACK THEN PRESENTED IN THESE NUMBERS. DISTRICT 2 IS DISPROPORTIONATEL Y AFFECTED NEGATIVELY BECAUSE OF THESE CHANGES. AND WHILE MAYBE THE JENNINGS AREA PART OF MY DISTRICT CAN GET TO LONG BAY, BUT TRY SHARING THAT WITH GETTING -- OAKS TO LONG BAY, PHASE ONE TO LONG BAY. 
          LET'S TALK ABOUT FOX RIDGE, GETTING THEM TO LONG BAY. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE FOLKS, ALL 47,000 OF THEM WHO LIVE IN MY DISTRICT HAVE TO DRIVE 30 TO 40 MINUTES TO GET TO AN ECC UNLESS THEY'RE ON THAT CORRIDOR IN OLD JENNINGS. SO OBVIOUSLY MY DISTRICT AND DISTRICT 1 HAD SIMILAR CONCERNS, BECAUSE THE EAST SIDE OF 17 HAS TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY UP 220 TO GET TO SLEEPY HOLLOW. I'M LOOKING AT 11,000 VISITS IN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER AND NOT EVEN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE WEEKS IN DECEMBER. THE CLOSEST ECC TO MY DISTRICT IS REACHING ITS LIMIT ON CAPACITY BASED ON YOUR NUMBERS. AND THE CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THESE CHANGES THAT WE WERE CONSIDERING THEN WAS THE AFFORDABILITY OF GOING TO A SECOND CAN, AND EVEN THEN WE ARE AT LEAST A POINT AND A HALF LESS THAN WHAT WE WERE PROJECTING. 
          WHEN FOLKS WERE TELLING US THEN THAT THEY WERE REALLY CONTAINED FINANCIALLY, THEY MEANT IT AND THEY WEREN'T BLUFFING BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING IT IN THE NUMBERS. 
          LIKE PEOPLE HAVE PIVOTED TO STICKERS THINKING THAT WOULD BE LESS ONEROUS THAN PURCHASING A SECOND BIN. IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES I THINK THAT IS TRUE. BUT LONG- TERM I KNOW THAT I LIVE IN A DISTRICT THAT FUSSED INCESSANTLY AND I'M STILL GETTING THOSE E- MAILS ABOUT CURBSIDE RECYCLING NOT BEING OFFERED ANYMORE. 
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WHEN I MENTIONED THAT THEN, I WAS TOLD, WELL, THERE ARE THESE ECCS IN THE COUNTY AND WE CAN AT LEAST HAVE THOSE AVAILABLE. 
          IT'S CURBSIDE THAT WE'RE TAKING AWAY. BUT I GUESS AT THIS POINT WE ARE FAR ENOUGH INTO THIS EXPERIENCE THAT WE KNOW EVEN THE LARGE HURDLES -- THE LARGEST HURDLE WE WERE PERCEIVING WAS THE HOLIDAY TRAFFIC. SO NOW WE HAVE THOSE NUMBERS. 
          NOW I'M LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION, BECAUSE MY E- MAILS AND MY PHONE HAVE BEEN INUNDATED WITH PHONE CALLS ABOUT THE CHALLENGES THAT WERE VOICED THEN. 
          AND I DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION. AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN ANOMALY. I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO VERY WELL -- UNLESS PEOPLE MAKE THE CHANGES OF GETTING THE SECOND BIN OR YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE A DECREASE OF 96% NEXT YEAR DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE TAKING IT ON THE CHIN. NOW, THAT'S -- I DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL. I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE, BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS BASED ON WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. 
          I NEED A SOLUTION FOR DISTRICT 2 BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE SPECIFIC E- MAILS THAT I GET, IS WE'RE NOT -- WE DID NOT TAKE THEM INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE MOVED TO CURBSIDE RECYCLING. AND I'M VERY ALARMED BY THESE CONCERNS ABOUT CAPACITY TO THE ECC THAT'S CLOSEST TO US, THAT WAS PITCHED TO US AS THE RESOURCE FOR MY DISTRICT. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR WHAT OPTIONS THERE ARE. 
          BUT I WASN'T PRESENTED WITH ANY THEN AND I'M LOOKING AT THE -- THAT TELL ME THOSE WERE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS. I MENTION THAT FOR THE BOARD ALSO, BECAUSE I HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM ON MY HANDS, A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM ON MY HANDS. 
          AND I WAS READING AN E- MAIL THIS MORNING THAT WAS SIMILAR TO YOUR COMMENT, COMMISSIONER CONDON, WHERE DEPENDING ON THE SENTIMENT OR THE ATTITUDE OF THE PERSON WHO IS RESPONSIBLE AT THAT STATION, THEY'RE GETTING MIXED COMMENTARY ON WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE AND WHAT'S NOT. 
          AND THAT SAME E- MAIL HAD A PREVIOUS E-MAIL. 
          HE JUST FOLLOWED UP LIKE, OH WELL, TODAY I WAS ALLOWED TO DO THIS -- OR YESTERDAY I WAS ALLOWED TO DO THIS, AND TODAY I'M NOT. 
          THAT E- MAIL IN AND OF ITSELF ALSO DEMONSTRATES A DIFFERENT PROBLEM. 
          WHY ARE MY CONSTITUENTS HAVING TO GO BACK CONSECUTIVE DAYS? BUT, AGAIN, I'M SEEING A PROBLEM AND I'M ASKING FOR HELP. I NEED A SOLUTION. 
          THEY WEREN'T CONSIDERED. I DON'T THINK THAT THEIR CONCERNS WERE WEIGHED AS HEAVILY AS THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN, AND NOW THEY'RE CRYING FOUL. 
          AND ARGUABLY THEY'RE JUSTIFIED IN DOING SO. 
          I NEED SOME HELP. SOMEBODY GIVE ME A CLEAR PATH FORWARD IN MEETING THIS CONCERN. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT WE ARE -- AND CONSIDERING ALSO THAT ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE EXPRESSWAY, NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY SPRUNG UP, BUT WE HAVE LAND CLEARING WHERE OAK LEAF PLANTATION PARKWAY IS SUPPOSED TO CONNECT WITH THE EAST SIDE OF 23, ALL HOMES THAT ARE GOING IN AND NOT ONE CONSIDERATION FOR WHAT THEY NEED, WHAT THEY NEED. 
          I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE WHILE THIS BOARD HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN MEETING SOME OF THE RESOURCES THAT THE NORTHERN PART OF MY DISTRICT NEEDS, WE STILL DON'T HAVE OTHER BASIC NECESSITIES, AND IT'S PILING UP. SO I PITCH THAT TO YOU ALL, BUT STAFF, COUNTY MANAGER, COUNTY ATTORNEY, I NEED SOME HELP. 
          I NEED SOME SOLUTIONS SPECIFIC TO THIS, BUT HOWARD AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER GAPS IN SERVICE, BUT THIS WAS VERY ALARMING TO ME. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BREAKDOWN IS OF THE 11,000, BUT I WOULD HAZARD A GUESS THAT QUITE A FEW OF THOSE CAME FROM DISTRICT 2. 
          >> YEAH. WE DO HAVE THE BREAKDOWN OF HOW MANY VISITS PER SITE, BUT WHERE THEY LIVE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. 
          YOU KNOW, WE DON'T CAPTURE THAT 
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WHEN THEY COME IN, JUST THEY'RE A CLAY COUNTY 
          RESIDENT. >> LONG BAY DID HAVE A RECORD DAY, 1500 PEOPLE IN ONE DAY. 
          >> 15 IN THEIR WEEK, THEIR THREE DAYS OVER 
          1500. >> BUT THAT WAS A RECORD? 
          >> YEAH. THEY'RE AVERAGING OVER 500 A DAY. THAT IS WELL ABOVE WHAT -- THEY'RE APPROACHING -- RIGHT -- DURING THE HOLIDAYS THEY ARE APPROACHING THE VISIT COUNTS THAT DOCTORS INLET HAS, AND IT'S A MUCH SMALLER SITE. 
          >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MILTON? 
          >> VALID CONCERNS, COMMISSIONER COMPERE, VERY VALID. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? HOWARD? 
          >> NO, MA'AM. I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS IS COMMUNICATION, COMMUNICATING TO THOSE WORKING THE ECCS OR TEAM MEMBERS THAT ARE THERE, WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE, NOT ACCEPTABLE. BOTH CHARLIE AND MILTON AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT CUSTOMER SERVICE TRAINING ALSO RECENTLY. ALSO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE BULK PICKUP. 
          IN ONE WEEK YOU HAD 358 BULK PICKUPS. 
          THAT'S NOT VERY MANY. I DON'T THINK THE COMMUNITY TOTALLY UNDERSTANDS HOW TO REQUEST A BULK PICKUP, WHAT CAN BE PICKED UP FOR BULK PICKUP. 
          THEN THE FINAL THING THAT YOU DEAL WITH IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO SPRING CLEANING -- AND A LOT OF THAT, I THINK, ALSO HAPPENED OVER THE HOLIDAY. PEOPLE HAD TIME AND THEY WERE CLEANING OUT A LOT. I WAS ONE OF THEM. 
          I WAS ONE OF THEM THAT WENT TO ROSEMARY HILL AND WAITED ABOUT 15, 20 MINUTES IN LINE TO GET TO WHERE I COULD DUMP IT, BUT IT WAS RUNNING PRETTY SMOOTH WHEN I WAS THERE. 
          I DID TALK TO SOMEBODY WHO WENT EARLY IN THE MORNING RIGHT WHEN IT OPENED UP AND THEY WERE IN AND OUT WITHIN MINUTES. WHERE THE FCC TRUCKS ARE COMING IN, WHEN YOU'RE MIXED WITH THOSE TRUCKS, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. THAT'S WHY HE TALKED ABOUT GOING TO THE SIDE FOR THAT. BACK TO COMMUNICATION AND GETTING THE INFORMATION OUT THERE, MILTON AND CHARLIE WILL COME THROUGH AND BRIEF YOU ALL ON BULK PICKUP, SO WHEN YOU GET ASKED ABOUT BULK PICKUP, THEY'RE GOING TO MEET WITH YOU EACH INDIVIDUALLY ABOUT IT. 
          WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A BIG PUSH HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS OF WHAT YOU CAN PUT OUT FOR BULK PICKUP. 
          WHEN YOU SPRING CLEAN AND YOU HAVE A BIG PILE OF IT, YOU GO, OKAY, I'VE GOT TO SCHEDULE A BULK PICKUP. IT'S GOING TO TAKE A COUPLE MORE DAYS. PEOPLE LIKE ME WANT TO GET RID OF IT NOW, TODAY, AND I DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT IT ANYMORE. I PUT IT IN THE BACK OF MY TRUCK AND I TAKE IT. I'M SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE DO. 
          IT'S ABOUT COMMUNICATING BULK PICKUP IS PART 
          OF IT. >> WHEN YOU SAY SPRING CLEAN, DO YOU MEAN YOUR YARD OR YOUR HOUSE? 
          >> I'M CLEANING OUT MY GARAGE, CLEANING OUT THE ATTIC, YOU KNOW, DID SOME WORK AROUND THE HOUSE. 
          >> BECAUSE IT IS NOT CLEAR WHAT THEY HAVE. 
          YOU KNOW, I HAD THE ONE RESIDENT WHO WAS SUPER ANGRY WITH -- AND I UNDERSTAND WHY. 
          WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT THEY COULD JUST PUT IT OUT AND A TRUCK TOOK IT. 
          I UNDERSTAND WITH FCC IT'S A DIFFERENT TRUCK, SO WE NEED TO SCHEDULE IT SO WE CAN GET THE DIFFERENT TRUCK THERE, DIFFERENT STYLE TRUCK. BUT I THINK THAT DEFINING IT IS REALLY PART OFOF THAT. COMMISSIONER RENNINGER? 
          >> HAS THE POLICY FOR BULK PICKUP CHANGED WHEN WASTE MANAGEMENT HAD IT? IT'S THE SAME PROCEDURE, RIGHT? 
          >> NO. THE SYSTEM 
          CHANGED. >> WASTE MANAGEMENT JUST PICKED UP BULK WITH THE GARBAGE BECAUSE -- TRUCKS. 
          THEY JUST PUT IT IN THE WITH THE GARBAGE WHILE THEY WERE THERE. THERE WAS NO CALL- IN NEEDED, NO SCHEDULING. 
          UNDER OUR CURRENT AGREEMENT, ONE, WE CHANGED THE BULK LIMITS, AND, TWO, WE CHANGED FROM A JUST-PUT-IT- OUT SYSTEM TO CALL-IN. 
          SO THEY CALL IT IN AND SCHEDULE 
          IT. >> THAT EXPLAINS A 
          LOT. >> BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO SEND A SEPARATE TRUCK TO GET THAT BULK. 
          SO THEY DO SEND A REAR LOADER TO GET IT, WHICH IS WHAT WASTE MANAGEMENT USED TO USE. THEY'RE NOT GOING THAT TO PICK UP THE CARTS -- 
          >> SO IF YOU PUT OUT A SOFA, THEY THROW IT IN THE BACK OF THE TRUCK? 
          >> YES. 
          >> AND IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, BULK PICKUP IS LIMITED TO ONCE A MONTH. IT'S -- 
          >> RIGHT. 
          >> RIGHT. 
          >> I WILL SAY I HAVE A NEIGHBOR THAT RAN FOR SHERIFF. HE'S DILIGENT. 
          YOU THINK HE READ STUFF. HE BLASTED ME THIS WEEK AND I 
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SAID WHY DIDN'T YOU CALL FOR BULK PICKUP? WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. 
          I'M LIKE, OKAY. I MEAN, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT STILL DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THEY DON'T READ, I GUESS. 
          >> WELL, WE'VE GONE OUT TO INVESTIGATE CONCERNS OROR AT HOUSES. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S STILL ON THERE, BUT THE PLASTIC BAG HOLDING THE INFORMATION THAT WAS DELIVERED WITH THE CART IS STILL TIED TO THE CART, AND THE MATERIALS HAVE NEVER BEEN REMOVED OR LOOKED AT. 
          SO WE DO THE BEST WE CAN. OUR COMMUNICATION TEAM IS USING ALL AVENUES AVAILABLE. LIKE THE MANAGER SAID, WE'LL BE COMING TO YOU. WE'VE DEVELOPED PUBLIC EDUCATION INFORMATION ABOUT THE BULK. 
          WE WANT YOU TO SEE IT FIRST. YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT, THEN WE CAN START DOING THE BLAST. THEN IF YOU GET CALLS, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL KNOW WHAT IT'S ABOUT. WE'LL SCHEDULE THOSE MEETINGS WITH YOU SHORTLY. 
          >> OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE FOR MILTON OR THE COUNTY MANAGER? ALL RIGHT. 
          [34.  Final 2024-2025 Committee Selections]
THANKS, MILTON. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. 
          BEFORE WE GET TO INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS, FROM OUR LAST MEETING, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE NEEDED TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO WAS OUR DESIGNEE FOR THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA COMMUNITY ACTION AGENCY. 
          SO IF WE VOTE IN FAVOR TONIGHT, WE WOULD PUT DR. 
          COURTNEY CONNOR ONTO SERVE AS THE BOARD'S REPRESENTATIVE ON THIS. 
          THERE'S DISCUSSION, QUESTIONS, ENTERTAIN A MOTION? 
          >> I SPOKE WITH HER AT LUNCHTIME, AND SHE'S HAPPY TO DO THIS. 
          SHE'S A GOOD QUALITY -- SHE JUST TERMED OUT OF -- 
          >> CLAY BAR. 
          >> CLAY BAR AS PRESIDENT OR CHAIRMAN, WHATEVER IT IS. 
          GOOD QUALITY INDIVIDUAL. 
          >> YEAH, SHE DEFINITELY IS. 
          >> I'LL SECOND THAT. 
          >> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I GUESS WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON THOSE, DO WE? SHOULD WE VOTE ON IT BECAUSE SHE'S -- DID WE VOTE ON PAM LEWIS? 
          >> I THINK WE DID. 
          >> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, INDICATE BY 
          [COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]
SAYING AYE. MOTION CARRIES 5-0. 
          ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER RENNINGER? 
          >> JUST REAL QUICK, VERY BUSY IN THE LAST WEEK, THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA REGIONAL COUNCIL. 
          COMMISSIONER CONDON AND I ATTENDED A BOARD MEETING AS WELL AS AN AWARDS CEREMONY. 
          YOU'VE HEARD WE WERE AWARDED ONE OF THE TEN AWARDS FOR EXCELLENCE IN TRANSPORTATION. 
          NEXT DAY I ATTENDED THE FLORIDA REGIONAL COUNCIL, WHICH IS ALL TEN REGIONAL COUNCILS,EVENT IN TALLAHASSEE. I WENT OVER THERE THURSDAY NIGHT AFTER THE AWARDS CEREMONY AND WAS THERE. 
          IT'S JUST KIND OF LIKE FAC. THEY LOBBY LEGISLATURE ON DIFFERENT THINGS. SO NO BIG DEAL. 
          AND LAST THING FOR REGIONAL COUNCIL IS THIS MORNING WE HAD A TRAILS WORKSHOP AT THE FLEMING ISLAND LIBRARY, FAIRLY WELL ATTENDED, I THOUGHT, GOOD JOB UP THERE. 
          I HAD TO LEAVE EARLY FOR ANOTHER MEETING. I JUST -- AT ROTARY, WE HAD A YOUNG LADY THAT WAS TRAFFICKED WHEN SHE WAS YOUNGER, AND SHE'S A SURVIVOR AND VERY VOCAL AGAINST IT. BUT BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT JANUARY IS NATIONAL HUMAN TRAFFICKING MONTH. 
          IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT WE HAD A VERY SIGNIFICANT EVENT HERE IN CLAY COUNTY, WHICH WAS JUST RESOLVED THAT I THINK MAY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED TRAFFICKING AS WELL. 
          HASN'T BEEN DIVULGED YET, BUT ANYWAY IT'S A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM. HOPEFULLY SHERIFF COOK IS TAKING CARE OF THAT. 
          MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. CELEBRATION HOLIDAY MONDAY, JANUARY 20TH, AND THERE'S AN EVENT TOMORROW AT THE AME CHURCH RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. 
          I THINK I'LL BE ATTENDING THAT. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER COMPERE? 
          >> WHERE IS THE EVENT FOR MONDAY? DO YOU KNOW? 
          >> I DON'T THINK THERE IS ONE. 
          >> OKAY. JUST TOMORROW 
          EVENING. >> GREEN COVE IS -- DUE TO THE FACT THAT I THINK WHAT THE MAYOR SAID IS THERE'S ANOTHER EVENT AT THE PARK, SO THEY'RE DOING IT AT AME CHURCH 
          TOMORROW. >> OH, I GOT 
          YOU. >> I DON'T THINK IT'S AT THE PARK. I THINK THEY DIDN'T WANT TO COMPETE WITH THE INAUGURATION. 
          >> WELL, THAT'S HAPPENING TOO. 
          >> YEAH. THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. 
          >> SO NOT MUCH. JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT 
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MAYBE. I'M LOOKING FOR THOUGHT LEADERS, SOME HELP ON THIS PERCEPTION THAT CAME UP TONIGHT ALSO. 
          THAT'S WHY I BRING IT UP. WE HAVE -- I'M NOT SURE HOW TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN THAT EVERY TIME WE PRESENT INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC, LIKE WHERE WE SET UP A MEETING AND WE GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY THAT THERE'S THIS UNDERSTANDING, THIS ASSUMPTION THAT WE ARE PRESENTING THEM WITH INFORMATION OF A DECISION THAT'S ALREADY BEEN MADE AND YOU SUCH THAT IT'S NOT A ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION. IT'S A WE'RE SHARING WITH YOU WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND OUR FATHER FORWARD. PATH FORWARD. LAST WEEK I HAD A SIMILAR CONVERSATION. IT WAS ABOUT THAT COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE. THE CONTENTION IN THE ROOM WAS PREDICATED ON FOLKS SHOWING UP THINKING THAT THE COUNTY WAS ABOUT TO LAY INTO THEM ABOUT ALL OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WERE INEVITABLY COMING. 
          I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN RECTIFY THIS GAP. IT'S VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT STAFF HAS THIS PASSION FOR GETTING THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED, AND THEY'RE OUT THERE AND THEY'RE SETTING UP THESE MEETINGS. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO COMMUNICATE THAT WE WANT AND VALUE THEIR INPUT. BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, THERE'S A DISCONNECT IN THAT ING SUCH THAT THEY SHOW UP ANGRY ANYWAY. 
          OR PASTOR WEEKS SAID TONIGHT TWICE I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS EVEN A CONVERSATION TO BE HAD. I THOUGHT THEY WERE PRESENTING US INFORMATION THAT WAS ALREADY SOLIDIFIED. BUT FOR THE CONVERSATION I HAD LAST WEEK WITH BLAIR AND KINLEY-HORN KIM KINLEY- KINLEY-HORN, I THINK THAT COMMENT WOULD HAVE FALLEN ON DEAF EARS TONIGHT. 
          I KNOW THERE'S A MISTRUST OF GOVERNMENT AND IT'S PERMEATED NOT JUST CLAY OR THE STATE. 
          IT'S A NATIONWIDE SENTIMENT. BUT I'M LOOKING FOR MAYBE SOME HELP ON HOW TO BRIDGE THAT GAP, BECAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY CARE ABOUT WHAT FOLKS SAY. 
          OUR PUBLIC COMMENT SECTIONS HAVE BEEN UNUSUALLY LONG THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS. 
          IT'S BECAUSE WE CARE. BUT FOLKS DON'T KNOW THAT. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW -- I REALLY DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT I'M LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION. 
          HOW DO WE GET THAT MESSAGE OUT THERE THAT THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS ARE REALLY TO DRAW THEIR PERSPECTIVE, THEIR THOUGHT ON A THING, WHATEVER THAT THING MAY BE. BUT THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. 
          HAPPY NEW YEAR. 10:00, GUYS. 
          10:00, THE FIRST MEETING OF THE YEAR. 
          WE'RE OFF TO A GREAT START. IT'S A PLEASURE. 
          WE'RE EXCITED. I'M SURE THERE'S SOME REALLY NEAT THINGS ON THE HORIZON. 
          SO HERE'S TO A GREAT YEAR IN SERVING WITH SOME REALLY AMAZING FOLKS. 
          >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER 
          BURKE? >> I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING. HAPPY NEW YEAR. 
          WHAT YOU JUST SAID, COMMISSIONER COMPERE, I FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST AN ONGOING THING. 
          YOU HAVE TO CONTINUE -- I MEAN, WITH MY EXPERIENCE IN THE FOUR YEARS, IT'S LIKE I'M CONSTANTLY EDUCATING. 
          I'M CONSTANTLY LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THEY CAN TRUST US. BUT I DO KNOW AND I'M SURE YOU KNOW THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE PEOPLE THAT DON'T. IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT YOU SAY. FOR THE MOST PART, IF SOMEONE HAS A CONCERN, I'M LIKE, COME TO THE MEETING. WE REALLY DO HAVE A CARING BOARD. WE LISTEN. 
          I FEEL LIKE I'M CONSTANTLY SAYING THAT AND JUST HAVE TO CONTINUE STAYING POSITIVE AND LETTING THEM KNOW WE'RE THERE FOR THEM. I GUESS THAT'S THE BEST THAT REALLY I FEEL LIKE WE CAN DO. 
          AND I THINK IT DOES HELP QUITE A BIT. BUT, YEAH, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH TO TALK ABOUT. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. 
          HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY GETS SOME REST VERY 
          SOON. >> THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER SGROMOLO? 
          >> AS THEY SAY ON CHANNEL 4 NEWS, IT'S 10:00, DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR KIDS ARE? 
          >> AND WHO THEY'RE WITH. 
          >> A COUPLE THINGS. THE ANIMAL SEIZURE THAT HAPPENED IN MY DISTRICT RIGHT AFTER THANKSGIVING, CONGRATULATIONS TO THE STAFF THAT SO ELOQUENTLY HANDLED THAT TOUGH SITUATION. 
          SPECIFICALLY, I HAD SOME CONSTITUENTS REACH OUT. 
          SHOUTOUTS TO COURTNEY RAYMOND AND THE TECH KAYLA FROM ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          THIS WAS A REALLY IMPACTFUL ATTA BOY FROM A STAFF MMBER ABOUT TIM DEVIN. THEY SAID THEY PERSONALLY 
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WITNESSED TIM DEVIN CLEANING KENNELS. 
          AND IN LEADERSHIP, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD AN OLD ADAGE IN LEADERSHIP. 
          NEVER BE TOO BIG TO TAKE OUT THE TRASH OR SWEEP THE FLOOR. SO, TIM, YOUR LEADERSHIP WAS RECOGNIZED BY A RESIDENT. I TOLD THAT RESIDENT WITHOUT A DOUBT I WOULD CELEBRATE THAT AND THE HELP OF YOUR DAUGHTER AS WELL. 
          WE APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S WAY BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY. I ATTENDED THE CCUA TOUR WITH COMMISSIONER CONDON. THAT WAS AWESOME. 
          THE PETERS CREEK RECLAIMED WATER, IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW RECLAIMED WATER -- RECLAIMED WATER, YOU'LL PROBABLY THINK TWICE ABOUT PLAYING IN THE SPRINKLERS. 
          IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE, THE SPEED OF THAT PROJECT THEY WERE ABLE TO COMPLETE AND THE 20,000 FOLKS THAT ARE NOW EVENTUALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT SERVICE BY THAT FACILITY. ALSO I LEARNED A LOT AT CCUA. 
          IF YOU ARE A CCUA RESIDENT AND YOU'VE NEVER OPENED YOUR PORTAL, I WOULD. I WOULD REALLY TAKE A DEEP DIVE IN YOUR PORTAL. 
          YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH YOU'RE USING, THE TIMELINES THAT THEY TELL YOU HOW MUCH WATER YOU'RE USING ARE PRETTY QUICK. 
          THERE'S ALSO A TIERED SYSTEM I LEARNED ABOUT, WHICH IS IMPORTANT, BECAUSE YOU ARE LIMIT YOUR USAGE AND SAVE SOME MONEY AND HELP THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          NORTHEAST FLORIDA AWARDS, CONGRATULATION TO ED AND THEIR TEAM. 
          THAT WAS A GREAT EVENT. SECONDING WHAT COMMISSIONER RENNINGER SAID ABOUT SHERIFF COOK. 
          SOMETIMES SOCIAL MEDIA GETS AN EXTREMELY NEGATIVE CONNOTATION, BUT THIS IS JUST ANOTHER REMINDER IN A COMMUNITY WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING. I'VE SEEN FIVE, SIX, SEVEN TIMES OVER IN THE PAST FIVE OR SIX MONTHS OF THE POWER OF SOCIAL MEDIA IN A POSITIVE LIGHT. THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY WAS LOOKING FOR THAT YOUNG LADY. 
          THERE WERE PEOPLE RALLYING BEHIND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WORKING TOGETHER, MAKING SMALL UNITS IN COORDINATION. THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT. 
          THAT'S THE COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER FOR POSITIVE CHANGE. 
          SO CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYONE ON THAT. 
          LAST THING I WANT TO SAY IS THERE WAS A RESIDENT THAT REACHED OUT ABOUT SENSORY EVENTS IN CLAY COUNTY FOR FOLKS WITH DIFFERING ABILITIES. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. I HAVE A NEPHEW THAT HAS SPECIAL NEEDS, HAVE A BROTHER-IN- LAW WHO HAS SPECIAL NEEDS. WE UTILIZETHESE TYPES OF THINGS. SO I DO WANT TO SEE IF STAFF COULD POTENTIALLY COMPILE ALL OF THE OPPORTUNITIES WE DO HAVE IN CLAY FOR SENSORY- TYPE ACTIVITIES. WE HAVE THE TOUCH A TRUCK EVENT WITH THOSE HOURS. I WANT TO ALSO THANK MARY. 
          SHE REACHED OUT. THE LIBRARY IN DECEMBER SERVICED ALMOST A THOUSAND KIDS, WHICH WAS AWESOME, BUT SHE HAS A WHOLE LIST OF SENSORY ACTIVITIES AT THE FLEMING ISLAND LIBRARY. MAYBE THROUGH OUR ACCESSIBILITY PLATFORM ON THE WEBSITE, SO FOR FOLKS WHO HAVE DIFFERING ABILITIES, HERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOU IN CLAY COUNTY. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SEE. 
          OTHER THAN THAT, HAPPY NEW YEAR. 
          WE'RE OFF TO A GREAT START. 2025 IS GOING TO 
          BE GOOD. >> THANK YOU. 
          I WILL TRY TO BE QUICK, BUT I HAVE A LITTLE LIST TO GET THROUGH. TOMORROW IS THE CHAMBER STATE OF THE COUNTY. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF YOU ARE GOING, BUT I'LL BE REPRESENTING THE COUNTY THERE. 
          SO IT WILL COME QUICKLY. SO YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED FROM TERESA OR YOU WILL SOON YOUR EVALUATION PACKAGE FOR THE THREE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK FOR US, THE COMMISSIONER AUDITOR, COUNTY ATTORNEY, THE COUNTY MANAGER. THE HR DEPARTMENT HAS TOLD US THEY WOULD LIKE THIS BACK BY THE END OF FEBRUARY, SO THEY'RE GIVING YOU SIX WEEKS BUT IT'S SIX SHORT WEEKS. PLEASE TRY TO GET THOSE DONE. 
          IF YOU WANT A DIGITAL COPY, LET TERESA KNOW. 
          SHE CAN SEND IT TO YOU. IF YOU WANT TO SEE PAST ONES, I THINK YOU CAN ASK TO SEE THOSE AS WELL. 
          AT THE DELEGATION MEETING THAT WAS GENTLEMAN WHO CAME UP AND SPOKE ABOUT HIS EFFORTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO PASS A HANDS-FREE CELL PHONE BILL. WELL, HE'S TRYING TO PASS IT IN TALLAHASSEE, BUT HE'S LOOKING FOR PROCLAMATIONS OR -- THE WORD IS ESCAPING ME. 
          >> RESOLUTION. 
          >> RESOLUTIONS. THANK YOU. 
          FROM COUNTY COMMISSIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. I ASKED HIM TO E- MAIL ME, AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYTHING FROM HIM YET, THE COPY OF THE RESOLUTION. BUT I'M GOING TO FIND A WAY TO GET IN TOUCH WITH HIM AND BRING IT BACK TO LOOK AT. 
          WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING IN YOUR VEHICLE, YOU THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU PICK UP YOUR PHONE TO PUT SOMETHING IN A MAP OR LOOK AT THE ROAD FUNNY OR TO ANSWER THE PHONE AND TO MAKE A PHONE CALL AND YOU DON'T HAVE A 
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HANDS- FREE OPTION, YOU'D BE SURPRISED HOW MUCH YOU'RE PICKING IT UP. HE HAD A STATISTIC ABOUT THAT, ABOUT HOW YOU'RE 200 TIMES MORE DISTRACTED JUST BY HAVING THE PHONE IN YOUR HAND VERSUS USING THE HANDS FREE. JUST THAT ONE THING. 
          ANYWAY, SO I'D LIKE US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 
          I FULLY SUPPORT THE STUDY ON 209, THE TRAFFIC FOR SAFETY PERSPECTIVE AND RICHARD. THE OTHER THING THAT CAME UP, IT ACTUALLY CAME UP INITIALLY FOR ME, WELL, NOT THE FIRST TIME, BUT IT CAME UP IN MY COLLEGE DRIVE DEBRIEF. 
          I'M GETTING LOTS OF REQUESTS FOR STREET LIGHTS IN CLAY COUNTY. WE DON'T HAVE A STREET LIGHT PROGRAM IN CLAY COUNTY, SO ALL THE ONES YOU SEE ON BLANDING ANDAND AND SOME OF THE OTHER LOCATIONS ARE DO, T. 
          THERE'S A FEW THAT COME UP IN NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE IF THEY DO A REPAIR PROJECT OR SOMETHING, SOMETIMES THEY COME UP. 
          BUT I'M GETTING LOTS OF REQUESTS FOR THEM. I ASK RICHARD IF MAYBE WE CAN SUBMIT THAT TO TPO TO DO SOME SORT OF LIGHTING STUDY POSSIBLY USING THE PULLS THAT ARE ALREADY OUT THERE. I KNOW JEA AND ALACHUA COUNTY, THEY ZE THEIR UTILITY POLLS. 
          IT CAN GET UPWARDS OF $40,000 A LIGHT IF YOU HAVE TO PUT THE POLES IN. AND WE DON'T NEED A LOT OF EXTRA POLES. ONE COMPLAINT I GOT AND IT'S VALID. THEY LIVE ON CLAY HILL AT THE END OF A DEAD END ROAD. A LOT OF NEFARIOUS ACTIVITY GOES ON BECAUSE IT'S DARK. 
          I HOPE YOU'LL SUPPORT THAT WHEN HE BRINGS BACK THAT LIST OF STUDIES. IF YOU HAVE OTHER STUDY IDEAS THAT INVOLVE SAFETY AND TRANSPORTATION, GET THOSE TO RICHARD, BECAUSE THEY'LL ASK US FOR THOSE, AND THEY USUALLY FUND ONE OR TWO. WE HAVE THE INCOMING CHAIRPERSON OF THE TPO NEXT YEAR. 
          COMMISSIONER BURKE WILL FILL THAT ROLE. 
          SO I THINK NEXT YEAR WE MIGHT GET TWO STUDIES. 
          MAYBE WE'LL GET BOTH LIGHTING AND 209. 
          YOU MIGHT HAVE A BETTER IDEA THAN I HAVE. 
          ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. 
          I WANTED TO ALSO ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT SAVE OUR LAKES, WHICH YOU'VE SEEN THEM WHEN THEY COME TO TALK TO US. THE SAVE OUR LAKES ORGANIZATION IS A 501C 3 ORGANIZATION. 
          THEY WEAR THEIR RED SHIRTS WHEN THEY COME AND TALK TO US. 
          THEY'VE GOT SOME GRANT MONEY THEY'RE TRYING TO GET MATCHES FOR. THEY HAVE A PRETTY UNIQUE PROJECT THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON. 
          IT'S THE ONLY WITHIN LIKE A 40- MILE RADIUS OR MAYBE EVEN MORE THAN THAT, MAYBE ALL OF NORTHEAST FLORIDA, THE ONLY ACCESSIBLE FISHING PIER AT KEYSTONE BEACH AND THE CITY OF KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME SORT OF DONATION FROM THE COUNTY FOR THAT PROJECT. IT WOULD BE BELOW THE AMOUNT OF THE COUNTY MANAGER'S SIGNING AUTHORITY, AND IT WOULD COME OUT OF THE KEYSTONE LAKES PROJECT MONEY THAT WE HAVE SET ASIDE, THE $200,000, BUT IT WOULD BE BELOW THE COUNTY MANAGER'S SIGNING AUTHORITY. 
          SO MY QUESTION F■OR YOU TO THINK ABOUT -- AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL ME TONIGHT -- WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THAT PROJECT COME BEFORE US ANYWAY EVEN THOUGH HE COULD SIGN OFF ON IT, OR ARE YOU COMFORTABLE IF -- THE COUNTY MANAGER? SO JUST THINK ABOUT THAT IF YOU WANT TO GIVE THE COUNTY MANAGER YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT. BUT THEY HAVE -- THEIR SOLO MEETINGS ARE ON THE SECOND TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH. 
          SO THEY HAD A MEETING TONIGHT. OTHERWISE VIVIENNE WOULD HAVE COME AND ASKED US ABOUT THAT. 
          THE FINAL THING THAT I WANTED TO TELL YOU IS, AS COMMISSIONER RENNINGER PREDICTED, MY HUSBAND IS PROBABLY WATCHING SO HE'LL LOVE IT THAT I TELL YOU YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          ANYWAY, YOU ARE RIGHT. AS YOU PREDICTED, OUR VOTE ON THE GOOD FRIDAY HOLIDAY HAS CREATED ANGST WITH OUR FIREFIGHTERS, AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE INCLUDED IN THAT. AS OUR CHIEF TOLD US, THAT'S A COLLECTIVELY BARGAINED PART OF THE, I GUESS, OF THE BARGAINING AGREEMENT. AND SO I ASK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO ASK OUTSIDE COUNSEL IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE AN MOU TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          THE ISSUE IS PROBABLY LEGALLY WE COULD DO IT. HOWEVER, THEY TALKED ABOUT THIS SPECIFICALLY IN THE 
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BARGAINING AS COMMISSIONER RENNINGER TOLD US AT THAT TIME. SO THEY'VE MADE THE REQUEST OF ME TO RECTIFY THE SITUATION. IT'S NOT THAT WE WERE INTENTIONALLY -- I HAD A COUPLE OF FIREFIGHTERS TELL ME THAT THEY THOUGHT I WAS SAYING THAT SPECIFICALLY I SAID I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT THEM. I DON'T THINK I SAID THAT AT ALL. IT WAS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT OUR OTHER EMPLOYEES HAD ASKED US TO DO FOR SEVERAL YEARS. I DO CARE ABOUT THE FIREFIGHTERS, BUT THAT IS AN AGREEMENT THAT IS COLLECTIVELY BARGAINED. 
          AT ANY RATE, I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOU. 
          I DON'T KNOW OF A REQUEST. I THINK IN ORDER FOR US TO DO SOMETHING ON THAT, IT WOULD TAKE A BOARD VOTE. 
          I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF WE COULD GO OUTSIDE. I DON'T REALLY KNOW. 
          BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, MAYBE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY -- SHE GOT MY ANSWER FOR ME AND WE HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT ANY FURTHER, BUT I WANTED TO DISCLOSE IT TO YOU ALL IN THE SUNSHINE THAT I HAD ASKED FOR THAT OPINION FROM OUTSIDE COUNSEL ON THAT. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FOR THEGOOD OF THE ORDER?
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.