Oct 22, 2024 BCC Agenda

[CALL TO ORDER]

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>>> WANT TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING FOR

OCTOBER 22ND. COULD YOU PLEASE RISE. >> PRAY WITH ME IF YOU WILL.

GRACIOUS, HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY THAT YOU HAVE MADE. WE THANK YOU THAT YOU BROUGHT CLAY COUNTY THROUGH THE TWO HURRICANES RELATIVELY UNSCATHED . I PRAY, FATHER, FOR ALL OF THOSE WHO ARE STILL SUFFERING, STILL WITHOUT POWER, STILL WITHOUT WATER, STILL WITHOUT THEIR BASIC NEEDS BEING MET. I PRAY WITH THAT YOU BE WITH THE RESPONDERS OF THOSE AND HELP THEM HEAL. WE KNOW PAINFULLY WELL HOW THAT FEELS . FATHER, I PRAY THAT YOU WILL BE WITH CLAY COUNTY TODAY AS WE CONDUCT THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY, THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR FIREFIGHTERS , OUR MILITARY AS THEY KEEP US SAFE. PRAY, FATHER OVER THE ELECTIONS OF THIS NATION WHERE EARLY VOTING STARTED TODAY IN CLAY COUNTY, THAT THERE WOULD BE PEACE , AND THAT PEOPLE WILL EXERCISE THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE, BUT WILL DO SO IN A PEACEFUL MANNER, AND THAT THEY WILL REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE THIS RIGHT IN OUR COUNTRY, BECAUSE YOU HAVE BLESSED US TO LIVE IN THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, AND THEN THE GREATEST COUNTY IN THE GREATEST STATE. I PRAY ALL OF THESE THINGS IN

YOUR MOST HOLY AND PRECIOUS NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, AMEN. >> THIS AFTERNOON , IT IS OUR CUSTOM TO HAVE A VETERAN COME AND LEAD US INTO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. THIS AFTERNOON, WE HAVE PETTY OFFICER DAMARIS MATOS. SHE WILL LEAD US . CHIEF MATOS HAS CURRENTLY SERVE THE UNITED STATES NAVY WITH OVER 20 YEARS, SO TO BE RETIRED AT THE END OF THE MONTH I HEAR, OCTOBER 31ST . SHE HAS BEEN STATIONED AT ALL THE LOCATIONS, INCLUDING JOEY, EXPEDITION BASE LITTLE CREEK, VIRGINIA BEACH, VIRGINIA, NAVAL STATION NORFOLK, VIRGINIA, SUPPORT ACTIVITY NORFOLK, VIRGINIA, AND NAVAL AIR STATION IN JACKSONVILLE. SHE JOINED THE MILITARY FOR THE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AND TO SEE PLACES THAT SHE WOULD HAVE NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IN A NORMAL LIFETIME. DURING HER TIME IN THE UNITED STATES NAVY, SHE LEARNED ABOUT THE SACRIFICES THAT HER SERVICEMEMBERS MADE AND SHE TOOK GREAT PRIDE IN SERVING OUR COUNTRY, NO SHE PLAYED A PART IN HISTORY AND WILL FOREVER BE A UNITED STATES SAILOR. HER FAVORITE MEMORY FROM HER 20 YEARS OF SERVICES, COMING BACK FROM DEPLOYMENT. WE KIND OF WELCOME THAT UNIT BACK EITHER ON A PEER, IF IT IS A SHIP OR FLIGHT LINE IF IT IS AN AVIATION SQUAD, WHERE THE FAMILIES GET TO CONGREGATE AND WELCOME THEIR LOVED ONE BACK TO CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES. CHIEF PETTY OFFICER MATOS IS A VETERAN OFFICER, HOLDING SEVEN CONFLICT MEDALS, 2B MILITARY SERVICE MEDALS, FOUR NAVY COURT MEDALS, GLOBAL WAR ON TERRORISM EXPEDITIONARY MEDAL , TWO NATO RIBBONS , AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, TO ME, SHE IS SURFACE AND AIR WHERE WARFARE QUALIFIED. THAT TAKES A LOT OF EXTRA TIME OUTSIDE OF YOUR NORMAL DUTIES. MOST IMPORTANTLY, SHE IS A RESIDENT AND CURRENTLY WORKS AS A TRANSITIONING SERVICEMEMBER AT THAT NAVAL TELECOMMUNICATION STATION IN JACKSONVILLE. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR MILITARY SERVICE AND CONTINUED SERVICE TO YOUR COMMUNITY. WITHOUT

FURTHER ADO, IF YOU COULD LEAD US INTO THE PLEDGE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION

UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL >> THE MICROPHONE IS YOURS.

>> I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE WITH YOU ALL TODAY.

COMMISSIONER RENNINGER, SORRY . >> THAT IS PRETTY GOOD.

>> PRETTY MUCH SAID EVERYTHING, I WENT THROUGH THE NAVY, IT WAS NOT MY INITIAL PLAN TO DO 20 YEARS, BUT IT IS THE DECISION THAT I WHOLEHEARTEDLY DO NOT REGRET AND I TAKE FULL HONOR IN THE CHAPTER OF MY LIFE I WILL FOREVER BE GRATEFUL FOR. THANK YOU.

>> YOU DID NOT INTRODUCE YOUR GUEST. >> THAT IS THE MUSCLE.

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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING US THE HONOR HERE. >>> I'D LIKE TO CALL THE OCTOBER 22ND BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER. I SEE ALL FIVE COMMISSIONERS ARE

[PET ADOPTIONS]

PRESENT , SO WE WILL MOVE RIGHT INTO PET ADOPTIONS. >> OUR FIRST DOG TODAY IS MIDNIGHT, A NEUTERED MALE, MIXED BREED, 7 YEARS OLD AND WEIGHS 50 POUNDS. LOOKING FOR A FOUR-LEGGED FRIEND WITH PERSONALITY AND CHARM, MIDNIGHT IS YOUR GUY . HE IS THE PERFECT BLEND OF PLAYFUL AND CALM, ALWAYS READY TO JOIN YOU FOR A WALK OR SHOW OFF HIS COMMAND SKILLS. MIDNIGHT IS ALSO A JOINT EXPERT. STUFFY'S DON'T STAND A CHANCE WHEN HE IS AROUND. NEXT, WE HAVE BEETHOVEN, A MALE, MIXED BREED, 4 YEARS OLD AND WEIGHS 89 POUNDS. MEET BEETHOVEN, RB, 89 POUND GOOFBALL . 4 YEARS OLD, THIS BOY IS THE DEFINITION OF SWEET AND SILLY. BEETHOVEN WILL CHARM YOU WITH HIS FRIENDLY AND GOOFY PERSONALITY. HE LOVES SHOWING OFF HIS TOYS AND WILL HAPPILY BRING THEM TO YOU LIKE TROPHIES. FOOD IS THE WAY TO HIS HEART AND WORKS WONDERS WHEN WORKING ON TRAINING AND LEASH MANNERS. OUR FIRST CAT IS DIANA, SPADE FEMALE, WASTE 9 POUNDS. HIS 2-YEAR-OLD DIVA KNOWS WHAT SHE LIKES, PEACE, QUIET, AND COZY NAPPING SPOTS. DIANA IS A CHATTY GIRL , WHO WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN SHE HAS SOMETHING TO SAY, BUT SHE IS ALL ABOUT HER PERSONAL SPACE . SHE IS A BIT SHY AROUND NEW PEOPLE AND PREFERS THE SOLO LIFE. A PATIENT HOME IS HER DREAM, NOT A FAN OF OTHER CATS, DOGS, OR OF COURSE THE KIDDOS. DIANE'S IDEAL DAY IS SPENT LOUNGING OR SNUGGLING UP IN BED. WIN HER OVER WITH TREATS AND YOU HAVE GOT YOURSELF A LOYAL COMPANION. LASTLY, ENCHILADA, SPADE FEMALE, DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR 2 YEARS OLD. MEET ENCHILADA. THIS LOVING AND VOCAL GIRL IS READY TO BE THE CENTER OF YOUR WORLD WITH HER LOVELY EARS AND CHATTY PERSONALITY, SHE'S ALL ABOUT SOAKING UP LOVE AND ATTENTION. IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A LOYAL COMPANION, WHO WILL ALWAYS KEEP YOU COMPANY, ENCHILADA IS YOUR PERFECT MATCH. WE ARE STILL IN NEED OF FOSTERS, PARENTS FOR DOGS, CATS, AND KITTENS. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, CONTACT US AT PLAYFOSTERS AT CLAY COUNTY GOVERNMENT .COM. PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT OUR AMAZON WISH LIST , WE ARE ALWAYS IN NEED OF ITEMS FOR OUR FOSTER KITTENS AND SHELTERED ANIMALS. JUST GO TO

AMAZON.COM. THAT COMPLETES OUR PET ADOPTIONS. >> TACOS FOR LUNCH.

[1.  Veteran’s Day (November 11, 2024)]

>>> SEEMINGLY, WE HAVE TWO ACCLAMATION, IF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS COULD JOIN ME AT THE FRONT OF THE DAIS . APPRECIATE IT.

TODAY, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR VETERANS DAY, WHICH IS COMING UP NOVEMBER 12TH, I THINK IS WHAT IT IS. VETERANS DAY IS CELEBRATED EACH YEAR, AROUND NOVEMBER 11TH, I GUESS. A DAY OFF. THAT IS TRUE . YOU ARE CORRECT . YOU KNOW, IT IS TO CELEBRATE THE LOVE OF COUNTRY, WILLINGNESS TO SERVE AND SACRIFICE FOR THE COMMON GOOD. WE LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE SOME OF OUR CLAY COUNTY HEROES AND HONOR THEIR SERVICE WITH A PROCLAMATION. IF YOU WOULD KIND OF GATHER UP HERE, CLAY COUNTY IS PARTICIPATING IN NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY'S OPERATION GREENLIGHT. WHAT THAT IS IS WE WILL TRY TO LIGHT ALL GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS WITH GREEN COLOR. SO IF YOU DRIVE BY THE COUNTY OFFICE HERE , THE COURT HOUSE AND SEE GREEN , NOTHING TO GET ALARMED ABOUT, IT IS TO COMMEMORATE VETERANS DAY. THAT IS GOING TO BE FROM NOVEMBER 4TH THROUGH 11TH. YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN LIGHT SHINING BRIGHTLY ON CLAY COUNTY COURTHOUSE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, SHERIFF'S OFFICE, TAX CLERK OFFICE, CLERK OF COURTS, AND CLAY LIBRARY. WE WANT TO WELCOME ALL THE

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IS GOING TO READ THE PROCLAMATION. >> ALL RIGHT, IT SAYS, WHEREAS IN 1954, PRESIDENT DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER CALLED ON ALL AMERICANS TO OBSERVE NOVEMBER 11TH AS VETERANS DAY AND SAID, ON THIS DAY, LET US SOLEMNLY REMEMBER THE SACRIFICES OF ALL OF THOSE WHO FOUGHT SO VALIANTLY ON THE SEAS, IN THE AIR, AND ON FOREIGN SHORES TO PRESERVE OUR HERITAGE OF FREEDOM, AND LET US CONCENTRATE OURSELVES TO THE TASK OF PROMOTING AND ENDURING PEACE SO THAT THEIR EFFORTS SHALL NOT HAVE BEEN IN VAIN. AND WHERE IS, WE CAN NEVER FULLY REPAY OUR DEBT OF GRATITUDE TO THOSE HEROIC MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVED, WERE WOUNDED, OR DIED IN BATTLE WHILE DEFENDING OUR FREEDOMS IN THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES, AND WHEREAS ON VETERANS DAY, WE ARE REMINDED OF OUR SOLEMN OBLIGATION TO SERVE OUR VETERANS AS WELL AS THEY HAVE SERVED US TO ME AND TO COME TOGETHER TO HONOR AND COMMEMORATE THE LEGACY OF PROFOUND SERVICE AND SACRIFICE THEY HAVE UPHELD , AND WHEREAS, CLAY COUNTY STANDS WITH OUR VETERANS AND VETERANS' ORGANIZATIONS TO ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO SUPPORT OUR VETERANS BY DONATING, VOLUNTEERING, PARTICIPATING IN LOCAL VETERANS DAY ACTIVITIES, HONORING THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE SACRIFICED SO MUCH TO PROTECT OUR GREAT NATION. NOW, THEREFORE IT BE RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, LAKE COUNTY, FLORIDA, HEREBY CONFIRM, BY ITS ACTIONS TODAY, THAT OUR VETERANS DESERVE TO BE HONORED FOR THEIR VALOR, COURAGE, STRENGTH, AND DEDICATION TO SERVING THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND ON THIS DAY AND EVERY DAY, WE ARE TRULY GRATEFUL FOR THE SELFLESS ACTIONS OF THESE BRAVE PATRIOTS. DULY ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, THIS 22ND DAY OF OCTOBER. DO I HAVE A MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR? IT IS UNANIMOUS . WHO WANTS TO TAKE THE PROCLAMATION?

>> BILL, ARE YOU GOING TO COME APPEAR, ONE OF OUR MOST CELEBRATED VETERANS? EXACTLY .

>> FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW BILL, OUR CHAPTER OF THE VIETNAM ASSOCIATION OF VETERANS HERE, OUR BUILDING IS NAMED AFTER YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR TIME. WE HAVE SEVERAL P.O.W.S THAT LIVE IN CLAY COUNTY, AND BILL IS ONE OF THE BEST WE'VE EVER HAD. I'M GOING TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU, AND YOU CAN PRESENT THIS TO WHOEVER. AND I WILL GIVE YOU

THE MEAT FIRST. >> WHEN THEY DECIDED TO NAME THEIR CHAPTER AFTER ME, I TOLD THEM THAT THEY EXAGGERATED, AND THEY PROBABLY TOLD ME, THEY DON'T JUST NAME IT AFTER DEAD PEOPLE. I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT ALL OF US VETERANS , DID NOT JUST GO FORWARD TO AFTER THE ENEMY , WE WENT FORWARD TO PROTECT THOSE WE LEFT BEHIND . WE ALWAYS KEPT THAT IN MIND .

AND THE REAL VETERANS ARE OUR SPOUSES, OUR SISTERS, OUR MOTHERS , AND ALL OF THOSE LOVED ONES WE LEFT BEHIND THAT STOOD UP TO FIGHT FOR US AND MET US WHEN WE CAME BACK AND CARRIED US THROUGH THE REST OF OUR LIVES. THANK YOU, ALL . GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

>> FIRST, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE WORD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. YOU GUYS HAVE TRULY PROVEN THAT CLAY COUNTY IS A COUNTY THAT TAKES CARE OF ITS VETERANS. TO ALL THE VETERANS HERE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, TO EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. WE TRULY COULD NOT DO WHAT WE DO WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT AND FOR THAT, I TRULY

THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD DAY. >> AND I WANT TO RECOGNIZE, YOU KNOW CLAY COUNTY IS CHOCK-FULL OF VETERANS, THERE ARE SEVERAL OF THEM IN THE AUDIENCE. CAN ANYONE SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE THAT SERVED IN THE MILITARY, STAND UP?

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YOU, VERY MUCH. >> RATING FOR A PICTURE.

[2.  World Polio Day (October 24, 2024)]

>> THE SECOND PROCLAMATION WE HAVE TODAY IS IN COMMEMORATION OF WORLD POLIO DAY , WHICH IS OCTOBER 2024 . POLIO IS ONE OF THE MOST FEARED DISEASES IN THE INDUSTRIAL COUNTRY IN THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY, PARALYZING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN EVERY YEAR. I AM MATURE ENOUGH TO HAVE A NIECE THAT HAD POLIO IN THE UNITED STATES. THANKS TO THE TIRELESS EFFORTS OF HUMANITARIAN AND ORGANIZATIONS LIKE RODEO INTERNATIONAL, U.S. CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION, UNICEF AND OTHERS, THE WORLD IS ON THE BRINK OF ERADICATING THIS DEADLY, INFECTIOUS DISEASE. WE HAVE A LOCAL ROTARY CLUB MEMBERS, COME ON UP HERE TO RECEIVE THIS ACCLAMATION. SURE. SURE.

WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, COMMISSIONER BURKE WILL READ THE PROCLAMATION.

>> WHEREAS, ROTARY INTERNATIONAL, WHOSE MOTTO IS SERVICE ABOVE SELF, LAUNCHED A GLOBAL EFFORT TO IMMUNIZE THE WORLD'S CHILDREN AGAINST POLIO IN 1985, POLIOPLUS AND HELPED ESTABLISH THE GLOBAL POLIO ERADICATION INITIATIVE IN 1988, AND WHEREAS, AT THE START OF THIS GLOBAL INITIATIVE, THE FEARED POLIOVIRUS PARALYZED MORE THAN 1,000 CHILDREN WORLDWIDE EVERY DAY, AND SINCE THEN, MORE THAN 3 BILLION CHILDREN HAVE BEEN IMMUNIZED AGAINST POLIO BY ROTARY AND ITS CORE PARTNERS WITH THE HELP OF 20 MILLION VOLUNTEERS WORKING IN 200 COUNTRIES, AND WHEREAS, TODAY, WILD POLIOVIRUS CIRCULATES IN ONLY TWO COUNTRIES, AFGHANISTAN AND PAKISTAN, AND THE GLOBAL INCIDENCE OF POLIO CASES HAS DECREASED BY 99 PERCENT WITH THE WORLD STANDING ON THE THRESHOLD OF ERADICATING THE DISEASE, AND WHEREAS, WORLD POLIO DAY IS A TIME FOR ROTARY MEMBERS, PUBLIC HEALTH ADVOCATES, AND ALL WHO WANT A WORLD FREE FROM POLIO TO COME TOGETHER, RECOGNIZE THE PROGRESS IN THE FIGHT TO END POLIO, AND TALK ABOUT THE ACTIONS STILL NEEDED TO END POLIO FOR GOOD, AND WHEREAS, THE ROTARY CLUBS IN CLAY COUNTY INCLUDING ORANGE PARK SUNRISE, ORANGE PARK SUNSET, ORANGE PARK NOON, FLEMING ISLAND, GREEN COVE SPRINGS, KEYSTONE HEIGHTS, NORTHEAST FLORIDA, RIDGEVIEW HIGH SCHOOL INTERACT, FLEMING ISLAND INTERACT, ST. JOHNS CLASSICAL ACADEMY INTERACT AND ST. JOHNS COUNTRY DAY INTERACT SPONSOR SERVICE PROJECTS TO ADDRESS SUCH CRITICAL ISSUES AS POVERTY AND DISEASE AND WILL BE CELEBRATING WORLD POLIO DAY ON OCTOBER 24, 2024. NOW, THEREFORE , BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 24, 2024, AS WORLD POLIO DAY IN CLAY COUNTY AND IN SO DOING, COMMENDS THE OUTSTANDING HUMANITARIAN WORK OF ROTARY INTERNATIONAL AND ENCOURAGES ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN IN THE FIGHT FOR A POLIO-FREE WORLD. DULY ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA THIS 22

DAY OF OCTOBER 2024. SO MOVED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? SO MOVED. >> I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ROB

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HERE READ HIS NOTES, SHIPMATE FROM -- >> I HAVE PREPARED REMARKS.

FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE COMMISSION FOR THIS PROCLAMATION. YOU SHOULD KNOW, IT IS VERY PERSONAL TO ME. WHEN I WAS 2-YEAR-OLD MY 4 YEARS OLD SISTER DIED OF POLIO. I'D LIKE TO SAY, EACH ROTARY CLUB CONTRIBUTES TO THE POLIO FUND. CLUBS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR FUNDING TO THIS IMPORTANT AND COSTLY UNDERTAKING. OUR AREA CLUBS PARTNER WITH THE JACKSONVILLE, JACK ORGANIZATION TO CONTRIBUTE OVER $1 MILLION A YEAR TO POLIO ERADICATION AND PREVENTION. IN ADDITION, EACH DOLLAR RAISED DISPATCHED TO TWO DOLLARS BY THE BILL AND MELINDA GATES FOUNDATION. TODAY, POLIO REMAINS IN ONLY AFGHANISTAN AND PAKISTAN. IT IS CRUCIAL TO CONTINUE THE WORK TO KEEP OTHER COUNTRIES POLIO FREE . IF ALL ERADICATION EFFORTS STOPPED TODAY, WITHIN 10 YEARS, POLIO COULD PARALYZE AS MANY AS 200,000 CHILDREN EACH YEAR.

THIS IS WHY MEMBERS OF CLAY COUNTY ROTARY CLUB ROUTINELY TRAVELED TO AFRICA AND INDIA TO TEAM WITH INTERNATIONAL ROTARY CLUBS TO VACCINATE CHILDREN, SO POLIO WILL NOT RETURN TO THE

REGION. THANK YOU, AGAIN. >> ANYONE ELSE? YOU REPRESENT SUNRISE? FLEMING HI. WILL

DO WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM DIFFERENT CHAPTERS HERE? >> THIS WAS VERY SPECIAL FOR ME. IT IS MY FIFTH YEAR SORT OF HEADING UP THE PROJECT . THANKS TO CAPTAIN ROB , WHO HAS ASSUMED THE COORDINATION ROLE THIS YEAR . WE THINK POLIO IS ON THE PATH FOR ERADICATION , EVEN THOUGH THERE IS REALLY SOME TOUGH TIMES OUT THERE RIGHT NOW , BUT SUNSET CLUB ,

I'D LIKE OUR PRESIDENT DUANE MALIK OF TO-- >> I JUST WANT TO AGAIN THANK THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. IT IS A JOINT EFFORT. WE CAN DO THE CLUBS, BUT FOR YOU ALL TO RECOGNIZE AND IN A PROCLAMATION WHAT WE DO MEANS A LOT TO US . MEANS A LOT TO ALL THE MEMBERS, THE ONES THAT GO OUT , YOU GO TO THE HIGH SCHOOLS AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO, THEY REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT ALL IT MEANS , OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT PEOPLE SHOW UP AND SAY, HEY, WE NEED YOUR HELP. WITH THAT, PARTNERSHIPS LIKE THIS IS STILL WHAT ENCOURAGES THEM. WHEN THEY LOOK AT THE PROCLAMATION AND SAY, WOW, COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DID A PROCLAMATION. IT MEANS A LOT TO THEM, AND I THINK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

>> OKAY, WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH . WE HAVE GOT A PHOTO OP HERE COMING UP.

[Substance Use Disorder Summary Presentation (T. Nolen)]

>>> WE HAVE SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT, ACTUALLY THREE . THE FIRST ONE WILL BE ON SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER BY TYLER NOLAN FROM OUR FLORIDA NORTHEAST REGION OF COUNSEL.

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>> THANK YOU, THROUGH THE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOU THE YEARLY UPDATE ON YOUR SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDER TASK FORCE. THIS GROUP WAS CREATED ONCE YOU RECEIVED THE OPIOID LITIGATION FUND THAT WE SET UP. LET'S SEE, CLICKER MAY NOT BE-- THERE WE GO. THANK YOU . AS WAS MENTIONED , MY NAME IS TYLER NOLAN, SPECIAL COORDINATOR WITH THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA COUNSEL NORTHEAST JACKSON STREET IN JACKSONVILLE. THE STRUCTURE OF THE QUARTERLY MEETINGS THAT THIS GROUP PUT TOGETHER IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO EVALUATE THE DATA ON A ROUTINE BASIS. AS YOU ALL MAY KNOW , WHEN IT COMES TO SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER AND OVERDOSE DEATHS, AND A LOT OF OTHER METRICS THAT GO WITH THAT, THEY ARE A LAGGING ÚINDI' UNTIL MONTHS LATER, DUE TO THE MEANING BEING EVALUATED AND ACCESSED BY A MEDICAL EXAMINER. LOOKING AT THIS DATA ON A ROUTINE BASIS THIS MORNING , I PULLED THE MOST RECENT DATA WE COULD GET, IT WAS ONLY FROM APRIL 2024. WE ARE STILL MISSING A SET OF MONTHS THERE. THAT IS WHY IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO LOOK AT DATA. I DID WANT TO REPORT TO YOU THAT ON A U.S. BASIS ON THE PERIOD OF APRIL 24, BACK TO APRIL 2023 , LOOKING AT THAT YEAR GAP, WE HAVE SEEN OVERDOSE RELATED DEATHS ACROSS THE NATION DROP BY 20%. IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THAT NUMBER IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. THE DEATHS HAVE DROPPED 12.6%. I WILL TELL YOU THAT YOUR LOCAL DATA IS VERY SIMILAR IN THAT, IF NOT DROPPING EVEN AT A MORE SIGNIFICANT PACE. IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT WE GET ALL OF THESE STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER TO LOOK AT THAT DATA, LOOK AND SEE WHAT IT MEANS FOR DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT IS POPULATION, AGE, INCOME HOW THAT ALL AFFECTS PEOPLE AS WE GO THROUGH . ON A YEARLY ROTATIONAL BASIS, WE ARE CONSTANTLY ACCEPTING PROJECT NOMINATIONS FOR HOW THOSE OPIOID USE DOLLARS WILL BE SPENT . KIND OF OFF THE TOP, THE COUNTY HAS SOME INITIATIVES THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON THAT YOU ARE CONSTANTLY DOING, WHETHER IT IS THE ONBOARDING AND YOUR NEW FACILITY, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, PLAY BEHAVIORAL . THEN, THAT LITTLE PIECE LEFT OVER, WHICH OFTEN TIMES EQUALS A COUPLE OF HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, AS WE WILL MOVE OVER IN THESE NEXT 18 YEARS THEN GETS DISTRIBUTED TO YOUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS . THROUGH THAT, WE SET UP A SCORING PROCESS FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH. I WILL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW WE HAVE CHANGED THAT PROCESS MOVING INTO YEAR TWO, AND THEN WE FOLLOW-UP WITH OPEN DISCUSSION. WHAT ARE THE PATTERNS, WHAT ARE THE TRENDS THAT WE ARE SEEING THAT NECESSARILY THE DATA IS NOT CAPTURING YET, BUT WHAT, AS COMMUNITY PARTNERS, WE CAN IDENTIFY AHEAD OF TIME? LOOKING BACK TO YOUR ONE , YOU WILL AS A COMMISSION HAVE DISTRIBUTED OVER $2 MILLION WORTH OF THAT FIRST YEAR OF LITIGATION FUNDS. IT WAS THE SINGLE GREATEST YEAR OF OPIOID LITIGATION FUNDING UNDER THE TEEN YEARS. IT DOES FOLLOW A SIMPLIFIED PATTERN FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES, WHERE YEAR TWO, YEAR THREE, YEAR FOUR, A LITTLE LESS THEN THAT WHEN I AM OUT, BUT WE WILL STAY RELATIVE ABOUT THAT $400,000 MARK. SLOWLY , WEANING DOWN AS WE GET TO YOUR 15 THROUGH 18 . YOU WILL SEE THOSE KIND OF NUMBERS FLUCTUATE YEAR-OVER-YEAR, BUT LAST YEAR, YOU WERE ABLE TO FUND SIX PROJECTS OUT RIGHT, FIVE PROJECTS OUT RIGHT TOTALING OVER $2 MILLION . JUST TO RECAP, THIS WAS YOUR TASK FOR US AS A SUBSTANCE USE GROUP .

HE WANTED US TO CONTINUE THAT COMMUNITY DISCUSSION. YOU WANTED US TO IDENTIFY A PROJECT LIST, KNOWING THAT THESE DOLLARS WOULD FLUCTUATE. THERE MAY BE YEARS OF HEIGHT DOLLARS, THERE MAY BE YEARS OF LOWER. THE COSTS AND THE PROJECTS HAVE TO OFFER WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT. YOU WANTED US TO HAVE A WAY TO EVALUATE THOSE PROJECTS AND ASSIGNED THE FOLKS DEEMED THE HIGHEST PRIORITY FOR HAPPY HIGHEST CREATIVE IDEA, BASICALLY. YOU ALSO WANTED US TO ENSURE THESE EFFORTS ARE BEING DUPLICATED. CAN WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? THANK YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I POST TO THE GROUP WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TO PLAN OUR WORK AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO WORK OUR PLAN. ANY PLAN INVOLVES AN EVALUATION CRITERIA, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT PLAN IS ROUTINELY BEING LOOKED AT, CAN BE IMPROVED ON , AND THAT WE MAKE IT EASIER FOR FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY TO GET THIS MONEY. WE KNOW THAT A LOT OF TIMES, WHEN GOVERNMENT IS DOING THINGS, SOMETIMES THE REQUIREMENTS ARE BURDENSOME. WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE WE WERE BEING DILIGENT IN WHAT WE DID. WITH THAT, YOUR GRANTS DEPARTMENT, THROUGH MS. COLBY , IMPLEMENTED A PROJECT BUDGET TEMPLATE, TO WHERE THEIR DEPARTMENT COULD SEE HOW THESE

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YOU GET ZERO POINTS FOR NOT PARTNERING WITH ANYBODY AND KEEPING IT INTERNAL, AND IT GOES UP. IF YOU HAVE ONE PARTNER, YOU GET ONE POINT, ALL THE WAY TO FOUR, WITH FOUR POINTS. THAT IS AN SCORING CRITERIA. SECOND, NOT ONLY DID WE ADD THINGS, WE DECIDED WE NEEDED TO REMOVE SOMETHING. WE WENT THROUGH THE FIRST YEAR OF THIS SCORING PROCESS, WE HAD TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT SCORED THE PROJECTS BASED ON THE DEMOGRAPHICS THEY WERE TRYING TO ASSIST WERE TRYING TO HELP. THE FIRST ONE, WHO WAS THE PROJECT TRYING TO HELP? THE SECOND WAS A HEALTH AND SAFETY CONSIDERATION, LOOKING COUNTYWIDE. IF YOU ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT A CLEANUP IN A PARK , THAT HAS IMPLICATIONS FAR MORE THAN THE FOLKS IT IS ADDRESSING, IT IS THE FOLKS ITSELF THAT MAY USE THAT. AFTER GOING THROUGH A YEAR OF THIS, WE REALIZED THAT FOLKS ARE ALWAYS IN THAT ONE AND TWO POINT CATEGORY ACROSS BOTH OF THOSE, SO WE DECIDED NOT TO LOOK AT THE POPULATION PIECE OF THIS. IT IS STILL A PART REQUESTED AS A PART OF THE SUBMISSION PACKET, PROJECTS JUST UNDERSCORED BECAUSE NOBODY WAS GOING MORE THAN THAT 10 OR 20% OF THE OVERALL POPULATION. YOU CAN TELL WHETHER THE PROJECT LOOKS AT MALE POPULATION, FEMALE POPULATION, A SPECIFIC COMMUNITY IN YOUR TOWNS, ONE OF THOSE KIND OF ONE OFF PIECES, NOBODY WAS EVER SCORING HIGHLY IN THAT CATEGORY, SO WE TWEAKED THAT AS WELL. THEN, IN YEAR TWO, IT IS CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS, A PART OF YOUR GOOD CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT, YOUR TENT CONSENT AGENDA ITEM, TO FUND THE PROJECTS SELECTED THIS YEAR. WHILE THERE ARE SOME OTHER FUNDING GOING TO A BEHAVIORAL IN SOME OF YOUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS WRITE UP THE TOP, THESE WERE THE OUTSIDE ONES THAT SUBMITTED PROJECTS, EXCHANGE . AID IS A WAY TO SUPPORT PARENTS THAT ARE TAKING CARE OF KIDS, LIKE YOUR GRANDPARENTS THAT MAY BE TAKING CARE OF KIDS, OR THE FAMILY MEMBER THAT HAS CHILDREN AFFECTED BY SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDER, OR HAS A PARENT THAT IS IN RECOVERY THAT IS NO LONGER USING , TRYING TO MAKE LIFE WORK, TRYING TO GET BACK ON THEIR FEET BEING ABLE TO SUPPORT THE CHILD IN THAT WAY, WHETHER IT IS TUTORING SERVICES , OR ACTUAL THINGS TO HELP SUPPORT THE FAMILY . THE RECOVERING COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION, THEY WANT TO COME INTO YOUR COMMUNITY AND ESTABLISH AN EVENT AND IDENTIFY IF YOU HAVE THE NEED TO ACTUALLY HAVE A RECOVERY COORDINATOR. THEY WANT TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE SERVICES OFFERED HERE IN CLAY COUNTY THAT PERTAIN DIRECTLY TO RECOVERY AND SEE IF A NAVIGATOR FOR THAT PROCESS IS A NEED FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE WAITING TO SEE WHAT THAT EVENT ENTAILS, AND IN VIVITROL SHOTS AND COUNSELING INSIDE YOUR JAILS.

SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL AS CLAY COUNTY IN YOUR JAIL IS KIND OF LEADING THE WAY ON , WHICH IS EXCITING TO SEE. THE NEXT STEP I MENTIONED ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT, YOUR GRANTS DEPARTMENT AND YORK COUNTY STAFF WILL BE WORKING ON IMPLEMENTING AND GETTING THE FUNDING DOLLARS OUT . WHAT I HOPE YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SEE THROUGH COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WANAMAKER, MEGAN KOBE, GABRIELLE DUNN, YOU HAVE IMPLEMENTED A PROCESS TO EVALUATE THESE PROGRAMS, EVALUATE THESE PROJECTS , SOMETHING THAT YOUR PARTNERS ACROSS THE REGION ARE LOOKING AT THE WAY YOU ARE DOING IT AND FINDING HOW THEY CAN IMPLEMENT

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HAPPY TO GIVE YOU. THAT IS IT FOR A NUTSHELL FOR THIS YEAR. >> THANK YOU, TYLER. WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR TYLER? MET TYLER WHAT DID YOU LEAVE US NOW, ARE YOU HANDING IT BACK TO

US, OR WILL YOU LEAD US THROUGH YEAR TWO? >> YOU HAVE CONTRACTED WITH US TO MOVE FORWARD IN YEAR THREE. HOPEFULLY THAT WILL CONTINUE AS WE GO FORTH.

>> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR WORK ON THIS. >> TYLER , IN TERMS OF THE PROJECTS SUBMITTED, YOU SAID THREE PROJECTS WERE CONSIDERED VIABLE. HOW MANY DID WE END UP

WITH LOOKING TO US FOR FUNDING ? >> AND I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU THE WRONG NUMBER, I BELIEVE IT WAS SIX. I CAN GIVE YOU THAT NUMBER. WHAT WE DO IS, WE COMPARE THEM AGAINST THE DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES . THEY HAVE TWO DOCUMENTS OUT THERE KNOWN AS SCHEDULE A, AND SCHEDULE B . REALLY, SOMETIMES WE ARE SPLITTING HAIRS ON THAT, THE GROUP LOOKS AT IT AND COMPARES IT BETWEEN THOSE TWO SCHEDULES

AND DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD OR NOT. >> GOOD THINKING.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR TYLER? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, TYLER. GREAT JOB. ERIC WAS

[The Fire Watch Project, Inc. (D. Collins)]

DEREK COLLINS. IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD . >> THANK YOU. ERIC COLLINS, REGIONAL PROGRAMS DIRECTOR FOR NORTH FLORIDA FOR THE FIRE WATCH . I KNOW WE WERE JUST HERE IN SEPTEMBER AND DID A PRESENTATION ON THE DATA. I WANTED TO KIND OF GET SOME HIGHLIGHTS FROM THAT AN OPEN IT TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. WHEN WE WERE FOUNDED IN 2018 , WITH NORTH FLORIDA AND THE FIVE-COUNTY AGREEMENT , WE HAVE SEEN A 27% DECREASE IN VETERAN SUICIDE . IT COMES FROM THE SIMPLE IDEA THAT MOST SUICIDE PREVENTION PROGRAMS ARE BASED ON THE IDEA OF A VETERAN RAISING THEIR HANDS SAYING, I NEED HELP . CALL THIS NUMBER, GO TO THIS WEBSITE. FOR THOSE IN HERE THAT ARE VETERANS OR NO VETERANS, YOU KNOW THE ONE THING VETERANS HAVE A HARD TIME DOING IS AS FOR HELP. AT FIRE WATCH, WE DEVELOPED A PROGRAM WHERE WE GO TRAIN , NOT JUST VETERANS, BUT THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. IT IS WHAT QUESTIONS YOU ASK TO GET THEM TO THE RESOURCES THEY NEED. OUR APPROACH, WE ARE TEACHING PEOPLE TO ASK THE VETERAN , DO THEY NEED HELP, INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR THE VETERAN TO ASK FOR HELP. WE HAVE SEEN WERE IN FLORIDA THE FIRE WATCH PROGRAM IS AND HAS SEEN SUCCESS. SINCE 2019, WE HAVE EXPANDED INTO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, ALSO SOUTH FLORIDA WITH A LITTLE GROWTH IN THE PANHANDLE . EVERYWHERE THE FIRE WATCH PROGRAM IS THAT, WE HAVE SEEN A 16% DECREASE IN VETERAN SUICIDE. IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE, IT IS GOING UP. AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO THIS NEW YEAR, ONE OF THE THINGS AS A PROGRAM DIRECTOR, MICHAEL , WHEN I WAS FIRST HIRED, A FOCUS ON CLAY COUNTY EXTENSIVELY TO INCREASE WATCH DATA NUMBERS HERE IN CLAY COUNTY HAVE ALMOST DOUBLED. NOW, GOING INTO 2025, MY STRATEGIC PLAN IS I AM FOCUSING BACK ON CLAY COUNTY , SPECIFICALLY THE ORANGE PARK AREA, AND THEN GREEN COVE SPRINGS , TO DOUBLE THE NUMBERS IN WASHINGTON COUNTY AS WELL. OUR PROGRAM CALLED THE VETERAN SAFE PLACE PROGRAM, WHERE WE TRADE ORGANIZATIONS, BUSINESSES, AND CHURCHES ON THE FIRE WATCH PROGRAM . IF AT LEAST 50%, OR 50 PEOPLE, WHICHEVER IS SMALLER, WE HAVE A VETERAN SAFE LACE, THEREBY HAVING A COMMUNITY OF FOLKS LOOKING OUT FOR VETERANS. WITH THAT, I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OVER THE YEARS . A LOT OF FOLKS LOOK AT WHEN VETERANS HAVE PROGRAMS AS A WAY TO SAY THANK YOU FOR OUR PAST SERVICE. WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH THIS IS MORE OF AN INVESTMENT INTO THE FUTURE OF VETERANS . WHENEVER WE SAVE ONE VETERAN'S LIVES , WE INCREASE THEIR ABILITY TO ADD TO OUR GLOBAL COMMUNITIES GREATLY. I DO APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS THE PAST FIVE YEARS, GOING INTO NEXT YEAR . WITH THAT, DOES ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT

OUR PROGRAM, OR THE DATA THAT WE PRESENTED? >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR DEREK ?

>> EXPLAIN IT TO ME, IF YOU WILL. I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED AFTER WE SAID THE LAST TIME IN REGARDS TO FIRE WATCH. ORIGINALLY, IT STARTED WITH FIVE COUNTIES THAT WERE SORT OF

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>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. ORIGINALLY, WE WERE STRUCTURED AS THE FIVE COUNTIES CONTRIBUTING . IN 2021, THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF VETERAN AFFAIRS WANTED TO TAKE THE PROGRAM STATEWIDE . WE CREATED A 501(C)(3) TO DO THAT, WHICH WAS FUNDED THROUGH A MIXTURE OF STATE FUNDING, GRANTS, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE OTHER FORM OF IT . THEN, WHEN WE GOT TO LAST YEAR , WELL THIS YEAR, WE DECIDED, SINCE WE HAVE SEEN THE SUCCESS IN NORTH FLORIDATO DISSOLVE THE COUNSEL AND GO WITH A 501(C)(3). NOW, FOR EVERYONE ELSE, STILL APPROACHING THE STATE AGAIN FOR FUNDING. WE DID NOT GET ANY FROM THE STATE LAST YEAR, ALSO, WE FUNDED THROUGH , AGAIN, GRANTS -- SORRY, I APOLOGIZE, I AM LIKING ON MY MEMORY.

BUSINESSES ASK THEM TO CONTRIBUTE , THINGS LIKE THAT, ALSO OTHER COUNTIES WE ARE IN , APPROACHED THEM TO ASK FOR FUNDING, SIMILARLY TO WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE AS WELL.

>> DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE STATE FUNDING-- I THOUGHT STATE FUNDING WAS ASSURED , I GUESS

IT WASN'T. WE DID IT STOP? >> IT CAME DOWN TO AN INTERESTING SESSION THIS YEAR WITH THE SPEAKER , SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE AND PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE SETTING PRIORITIES AND CAPS RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING. USUALLY, EVERYONE PUTS THEIR BILLS IN ONE PILE AND THEY CHOOSE FROM THERE. I GUESS THEY PUT CAPS ON HOW MUCH EACH COMMITTEE COULD SPEND AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE GOT LEFT OUT, ALONG WITH SEVERAL OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT NORMALLY GET FUNDING . THIS IS OUR THIRD YEAR ASKING FOR SAVE FUNDING . THE FIRST YEAR WE GOT FUNDED WHAT WE ASKED, THE SECOND YEAR IT GOT CUT IN HALF, AND THEN IT GOT CUT OUT. THIS YEAR, HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE A BETTER TERM. WE GOT SOME STRONG SUPPORT GOING INTO IT .

>> I GUESS THAT IS WHERE I AM GOING WITH THIS. LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE, WHAT DOES THE

FUTURE HOLD? NOBODY HAS A CLEAR CRYSTAL BALL. >> THE FUTURE, I THINK WE HAVE CHOSEN A CHAMPION ON THE SENATE SIDE, VERY STRONG IN SENATOR COLLINS. I BELIEVE IT IS REPRESENTATIVE DUGGAN FOR THE HOUSE SIDE . TWO FOLKS THAT REALLY PUSH , SUPPORT US, LOVE WHAT WE DO, CAN PUSH THAT THROUGH. IF WE GET CUT AGAIN, WE WILL CONTINUE WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW, SEEK FUNDING WHERE WE CAN THROUGH FUNDRAISING , WHERE WE DO JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER 501(C)(3) OUT THERE. 501(C)(3) IS RISKY , WE ALWAYS WORRY ABOUT FUNDING , BUT WE BELIEVE WE HAVE A GOOD PROGRAM. PEOPLE ARE REALLY RESONATING WITH WHAT IT DOES , AND I THINK WE WILL HAVE SUPPORT, WHETHER WE HAVE TO WAIT EVERY MONTH FOR ALL THE GRANT TO COME IN, OR IF

WE CAN GET THE FUNDING AS WE CAN IN ONE SHOT. >> HOW MANY STAFF MEMBERS DO YOU HAVE THAT CAN GO THROUGHOUT FLORIDA ? THAT IS QUITE A BIT OF AREA TO COVER?

>> CURRENTLY , THERE IS FIVE OF US, SORRY, SIX OF US. WE HAVE OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR DOING ALL OF THIS, AND OUR PERMANENT ADMINISTRATIVE , MAKING SURE BACK AND IS TAKING CARE OF.

NOW, I COVER FROM NORTH FLORIDA, ALL THE WAY TO THE PANHANDLE . WE HAVE ONE THAT COVERS MAINLY HILLSBOROUGH , ALSO CENTRAL FLORIDA AS WELL . THEN, MIAMI-DADE, BASICALLY ALL OF SOUTH FLORIDA. WORKING WITH A VERY SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE TO COVER A LARGE-- IN FACT, I WAS OUT IN DESTIN LAST THURSDAY , AND THEN I WILL BE IN GAINESVILLE THIS FRIDAY, WHICH HAS INCREASED. ORIGINALLY, I WAS CONFINED TO NORTHEAST FLORIDA AS A PART OF THE

COUNSEL, BUT WE HAVE DECIDED TO EXPAND OUT. >> SO, I FULLY SUPPORT THE WORK THAT FIRE WATCH HAS DONE OVER THE TIME, THE THREE AND HALF YEARS THAT I HAVE BEEN A

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TAXPAYERS GOING TO GET A RELIGHT ON THIS? >> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION .

ONE OF THE THINGS, AS WE UNDERSTAND THE RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE HAD WITH CLAY COUNTY, SPECIFICALLY, IS HOW I SPEND MY PRIORITIES. CERTAINLY, CLAY COUNTY WOULD BE ONE OF THE PRIORITIES . AGAIN, WHEN IT COMES TO SCHEDULING, IF I HAVE SOMEONE THAT SAYS, COME OUT ON THIS DAY IN THE COUNTY, BECAUSE I'VE HAD TO DO THIS FOR ME IN THE COUNTY SAYS, HEY, WE WANT YOU TO PROVIDE TRAINING-- YOU STILL GET ME , JUST NOT AS OF FOCUSED CAPACITY AS I WAS AS WELL. ALSO TOO, FROM WHEN I STARTED IN 2021, IN 2022, YOU THOUGHT BASICALLY A THIRD REDUCTION IN SUICIDE . WE DON'T SHOW YOU OUR DATA , WHICH IS VERY EXPENSIVE EXTENSIVE UPFRONT, OR THE BACK, I CAN TELL YOU BY COUNTY WHAT IS THE AVERAGE HOURS YOU LOSE EVERY TIME YOU LOSE A VETERAN IN THE COUNTY. I CAN TELL YOU WHAT YOU ARE CONTRIBUTING AS A SMALL PART-- YOU WOULD BE LOSING AS SOMEONE CONTRIBUTES. I JUST WANT TO PARALYZE PUT IT THROUGH. VETERANS VOLUNTEER MORE, OUTWORK PEOPLE, JUST THE FACT OF WHAT WE DO AS A VETERAN. SO, EXACTLY WHAT THE COST IS , I CAN'T PUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT ON THAT , YOU ARE

INVESTING IN THE POTENTIAL FOR THE VETERAN TO BE SAVED. >> I AM A MOM OF A VETERAN, IT MATTERS A LOT TO ME THAT HE IS OKAY, THAT ALL OF YOU ARE, BUT I FELT THE NEED TO ASK THE

QUESTION . >> I FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO START WORKING IN THE NONPROFIT WORLD TO TREAT EVERY DOLLAR GIVEN TO YOU BY SOMEBODY THAT YOU WILL BE CALLED INTO ACCOUNT, SO I WILL CALL YOU AND SAY, WHAT DID YOU SPEND OUR MONEY ON? IT IS NOT YOUR MONEY, IT IS SOMETHING WE TAKE FIERCELY, ESPECIALLY THE DEPARTMENT WE TAKE SERIOUSLY.

>> THANK YOU. I JUST HAD A COMMENT. THANKS FOR COMING, MR. COLLINS . I UNDERSTOOD IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT IN THE EVENT THAT STATE FUNDING WOULD FALL THROUGH THE NEXT YEAR, THAT YOU WOULD ASSUME THE SAME POSTURE IN ASKING FOR FUNDS AT THE VARIOUS COUNTIES . AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE BOARD OF REPRESENTATIVES FOR FIRE WATCH ASSURED ME THE ALLOCATION WE ARE POTENTIALLY PUTTING INTO OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR WOULD BE A ONE TIME ASK. I AM ASKING YOU

TO ASSURE US OF THE SAME. >> SO, THAT IS KIND OF ABOVE MY PREY GREAT PAYGRADE. I DON'T MAKE DECISIONS WHEN IT COMES TO THE BUDGET AND ALL OF THAT. I AM PAID TO TRAIN PEOPLE TO COME OUT AND PRESENT THE DATA. PERSONALLY , I WOULD AGREE TO THAT, BUT I JUST CAN'T.

>> NO, I DO. >> I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WHO HANDLES

THAT DIRECTLY. WAS THE CHAIRMAN FLEMING? >> NO, IT WAS ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER. I AM THE BOARD MEMBER REPRESENTATIVE TO THE FIRE WATCH. THE REASON I AM BRINGING THAT UP IS BECAUSE , AGAIN, YOUR ANSWER TO COMMISSIONER CELLA'S QUESTION WAS , OR ACTUALLY I THINK IT WAS CHAIRMAN RENNINGER'S QUESTION , WHAT THE NEXT STEPS LOOK LIKE FOR THE FUTURE, AND TO ALSO ASSERT THAT YOU'D BE MAKING YOUR CIRCUITS, LOOKING TO RAISE FUNDS THE WAY THAT YOU ARE NOW IS CONTRADICTING , AN UNDERSTANDING THAT I HAVE.

>> UNDER THE STRUCTURE THAT WE HAD, KIND OF WE WERE LEVERAGED THAT EACH COUNTY HAD TO SUPPLY THE FUNDS, BECAUSE WE ENTERED THIS AGREEMENT TOGETHER. HAVING THE AGREEMENT NO LONGER APPLIED. IF WE COME BACK AGAIN AND ASK FOR MONEY, THE BOARD IS NOT UNDER ANY OBLIGATION. I AM

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>> OKAY. LET ME REPHRASE . IT IS NOT YOUR POSITION TODAY TO WALK BACK PREVIOUS ASSURANCES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE BCC, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS JUST WHAT I WANTED TO BE SURE WE

WERE-- >> WE ARE ASKING FOR MONEY TODAY, SO I CAN'T WALK BACK. I THINK I MIGHT-- AGAIN, THIS IS NOT MY FORTE. I APOLOGIZE IF I AM NOT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION

TO YOUR SATISFACTION. >> WELL, YOU ARE HERE FOR APPROVAL OF THE FUNDING AGREEMENT FOR $20,000 TO PROVIDE OPERATIONAL SUPPORT FOR THE FIRE WATCH PROGRAM, OR PROJECT INC , THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS IN AN ANSWER TO ANOTHER'S QUESTION, YOU ASSERTED THAT YOU WOULD BE BACK HERE IN THE EVENT THAT STATE FUNDING FELL THROUGH. THAT IS NOT THE UNDERSTANDING I HAD WHEN THIS WAS PRESENTED BEFORE. IF IT IS ABOVE YOUR PAY GRADE, THAT IS FINE. I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT YOU ARE NOT WALKING BACK PREVIOUS ARRANGEMENTS THAT

HAVE BEEN MADE. >> IF I MADE THAT IMPRESSION, I'M SORRY. I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE WITH THIS, I JUST KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW WITH IT.

>> OKAY, I THINK YES, THAT IS THE ANSWER I AM LOOKING FOR. >> I DO APOLOGIZE, I JUST DID NOT -- I TRIED TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH MY WORDS . IT GETS ME IN TROUBLE IN OTHER PLACES

AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. >> ARE YOU ASKING ALL THE OTHER

COUNTIES IN FLORIDA TO CONTRIBUTE TOO? >> NO, WE ONLY ASKED CLAY AND

JONES COUNTY. >> WHY IS THAT? >> WE WANT TO FOCUS MORE IN THIS NORTHEAST FLORIDA AREA AS WELL. BAKER HAS CONTRIBUTED A LOT MORE THAN WHAT THEIR

VETERAN COMMUNITY IS. >> I MEANT THROUGHOUT FLORIDA. >> WE ARE STILL BUILDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT THROUGHOUT THE REST OF FLORIDA . I THINK WE WENT TO ONE COUNTY IN SOUTH FLORIDA. I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THEY WILL BE PROVIDING FUNDS. I APOLOGIZE, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE COUNTY THAT SAID THAT. THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS, WE ARE ASKING THE COUNTIES DOWN THERE AS A PART OF OUR NEW STRUCTURE OF 501(C)(3).

>> IT SEEMS LIKE Y'ALL ARE PUTTING IN A TOUGH POSITION IS TO SERVE AS ALL OF FLORIDA, AND YET, ALL OF FLORIDA IS NOT HELPING YOU. PERSONALLY, I WOULD BE LIKE, WE NEED HELP.

YOU KNOW , THAT PUTS YOU IN A TOUGH SPOT HERE. ANYWAY, THAT IS JUST MY RECOMMENDATION.

>> WE'VE ONLY BEEN OF NONPROFITS WOULD NOT BE AT THE POINT WHERE WE ARE AT. WE HAVE GOTTEN WHAT NOBODY ELSE HAS. 2023 DATA EARLY NEXT YEAR, PUBLISHED OUR 2022 DATA, YET . IT IS DUE OUT, ALSO PROVIDING THE UNIX UNIQUE THE PROGRAM PROVIDES HAS GOTTEN US A LOT FURTHER THAN IF WE WERE STARTING FOR 0 AGAIN.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DEREK? COUNTY MANAGER . >> CHAIRMAN , JUST TO ADD SOME CLARIFICATION AND DISCUSSION HAD ON THE BOARD FLOOR, I WOULD RECOMMEND IN THE FUTURE THAT THE FIRE WATCH WOULD HAVE TO FILE THE STANDARD NONPROFIT THAT THE STANDARD BOARD HAS

MOVED. >> YOU MUST BE READING MY MIND . WHY IS THAT NOT THE CASE NOW?

>> THIS CASE WAS JUST A REQUEST FOR THEM. THEY WERE COUNTING ON MONEY, MY UNDERSTANDING, FROM

THE STATE, WHICH FELL THROUGH. >> DIDN'T WE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE, THAT THEY WERE IN THE

MIDDLE OF SWITCHING? >> WE HAVE OTHERS IN THAT SAME SITUATION. PHYSICAL CHILDREN'S

SERVICE, WE HAVE OTHERS AS WELL . >> AND I THINK WHEN WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION BEFORE THE APPLICATION PROCESS HAD NOT YET BEEN OPENED , SO THERE WAS A

CONFLICT IN THE TIMING, ALSO. >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> THE TIMING, IT WASN'T OPEN, SIMPLY BECAUSE WE DID NOT -- MY UNDERSTANDING, WE HAD TO APPROVE THE BUDGET TO ESTABLISH

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FUNDING, OR NOT. >> ONE MORE ITEM, CHAIRMAN. THE FUNDS LISTED HERE WOULD BE

COMING FROM ARPA , THE $20,000. >> WHICH WE HAVE OTHER NEEDS FOR. AND THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE APPLICATION , AND THE STAFFING TO DETERMINE , WHAT IS FUNDABLE , WHAT IS NOT FUNDABLE . I WILL SAY, I AM KIND OF -- I AM KIND OF NOT IN SUPPORT, SIMPLY BECAUSE WE DID NOT FOLLOW THE PROCESS WE ESTABLISHED AS A COMMISSION .

>> MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY THE PROBLEM , BUT THIS WAS THE SITUATION WHEN WE FIRST STOOD UP THE FIRE WATCH AND BECAME ONE OF THE FIRST FIVE COUNTIES INVOLVED . MY QUESTION, HOW MUCH DOES THE AMOUNT DETERMINED THE TIME THAT THEY SPENT IN THE COUNTY? WITH THAT MONEY BE BETTER OFF WITH AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS ALREADY IN THE COUNTY DOING WORK FOR ME NOT MINIMIZING THE WORK THAT YOU FOLKS HAVE DONE, BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOLLARS AND CENTS, WHERE THE INVESTMENT IS. IF THE STATE CAME TO ME AND SAID, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE YOU COVER THE WHOLE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND THEN DECIDED THEY WERE NOT GOING TO SUBSIDIZE YOU, MY QUESTION TO THE STATE, WELL, YOU MUST BE LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO GIVE THE FULL STATE, BECAUSE WE WILL ENTRENCH BACK IN THE AREA WE STARTED IN, THAT WE HAVE SUPPORT IN. MY ONLY CONCERN IS, WE ARE ONE OF ONLY TWO COUNTIES OUT OF THE FIRST FIVE THAT ARE CONTINUING TO CONTRIBUTE AND YOU ARE ALREADY SPENDING TIME IN THE PANHANDLE , HILLSBOROUGH, AND OTHER AREAS AND THEY HAVEN'T CONTRIBUTED ANY MONIES . TO ME, THAT IS A PROBLEM. AND SO, I AM NOT AGAINST THE PROGRAM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I AM NOT SURE THAT TAXPAYERS IN CLAY COUNTY, SPECIFICALLY VETERANS, ARE GETTING A LOT OF IT FROM THAT, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T REALLY TELL US SPECIFICALLY HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE BEING HELPED IN ANY ONE PARTICULAR COUNTY . SO, WE ARE RIGHT BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED. QUITE HONESTLY, WHEN WE STARTED, WE HAD A GENTLEMAN COMING TO THIS BOARDROOM AND HOLD QUARTERLY MEETINGS FOR OTHER VETERANS AS WELL AND THAT WENT BY THE WAYSIDE AS WELL, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A VIABLE VALUABLE ASPECT TO THE PROGRAM. SORRY YOU HAVE BEEN PUT INTO THIS SITUATION, WHICH IS NOT USUALLY YOUR FORTE . I AM SURE YOU ARE GREAT AT TRAINING, BUT CERTAINLY, WHETHER IT IS SOMEBODY IN THAT VEIN SHOULD BE STANDING WHERE YOU ARE TO BE ASKING FOR THE MONIES, EXPLAINING WHY WE ARE ONLY ONE OF TWO COUNTIES PUTTING IN MONEY, YET, YOU ARE SPENDING TIME IN OTHER AREAS THAT HAVEN'T GIVEN YOU ANY MONEY TO BE THERE. THAT IS THE PROBLEM I HAVE.

>> WELL, WHAT'S ONE ON THE AGENDA IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF $20,000. I WILL

TAKE A MOTION. >> MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD, I KNOW YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION I HAVE A QUESTION, A SPECIFIC QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE ARPAFUNDING, AND MAYBE THE COUNTY MANAGER CAN HELP REFRESH OUR MEMORIES AS TO WHAT THE TIMEFRAME IS THEY WOULD HAVE TO

INCUMBENT THAT MONEY? >> BY THE END OF DECEMBER . >> THANK YOU .

>> YES, SIR. >> I JUST WANTED TO GET SOME CLARITY ON YOU, ON YOUR ANSWER TO COMMISSIONER CONDON'S QUESTION . I THINK IT KEEPS RESURFACING . I THINK YOU'VE HAD A MINUTE NOW TO MAYBE GATHER YOUR THOUGHTS . IS THERE A WAY TO MEASURE THE IMPACT OF THIS $20,000 ALLOCATION FOR THE BENEFIT OF CLAY COUNTY VETERANS ?

>> YES, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO DO , PREVENTION PROGRAMS ARE ALWAYS KIND OF HARD TO GAUGE

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DO THAT . >> I GUESS , CHAIR, THE ISSUE THAT I HAVE IS , THAT UNFORTUNATELY, MR. COLLINS DOES NOT HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED ABOUT HOW CLAY COUNTY IS IMPACTED, AND IT MAKES ME VERY UNCOMFORTABLE TO SAY , NO, TO $20,000 THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN GRANTS WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT VETERANS SUICIDE PREVENTION . SO, I HATE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS TO OUR QUESTIONS, BUT I AM EQUALLY FRUSTRATED THAT WE ARE AT THIS JUNCTURE , OF A VERY CRITICAL TOPIC , AND WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO SEE HOW THIS NEGATIVELY IMPACTS CLAY COUNTY IF WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION, EITHER . AND I DON'T KNOW, TRUTHFULLY , HOW I AM GOING TO VOTE ON THIS . I THINK BOTH ARE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT IN ORDER TO MAKE A DECISION, AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE YOU HAVE

THAT INFORMATION TO PRESENT US TONIGHT. >> COMMISSIONER BURKE .

>> OKAY, SO , HOW DEEP ARE Y'ALL INTO ALL OVER FLORIDA ? OR COULD YOU BACKTRACK AND SAY, OKAY, WE NEED TO GET BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED , BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS, THEY ARE NOT SUPPORTING US AND THE REST OF FLORIDA, YOU HAVE TIME, I THINK BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, MAYBE WHOEVER DOES HAVE INFORMATION SHOULD BE HERE . I HAVE SAID BEFORE, AND I DON'T LIKE TALKING ABOUT THIS . YOUR ORGANIZATION DOES MEAN A LOT TO ME. I HAVE A BROTHER THAT COMMITTED SUICIDE AND WAS A VETERAN . SO, I KNOW THIS IS VERY WORTHWHILE TO , BUT WE CAN'T HONESTLY TELL OUR CITIZENS THAT WE ARE GIVING MONEY TO YOUR ORGANIZATION THAT IS NOT GOING TO TOTALLY GO TO CLAY COUNTY , NO MATTER WHAT STATISTICS WE SEE, OR HOW MUCH HAS AFFECTED OUR COUNTY, YOU ARE STILL GOING TO DO WORK IN THE REST OF THE STATE AND THAT IS NOT FAIR TO OUR PEOPLE IF THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CONTRIBUTE. RIGHT NOW, I HAVE TO SAY, I AM NOT IN AGREEMENT. MAYBE THE REST OF WHOEVER ELSE CAN COME IN HERE AND SPEAK BEFORE THE TIME IS UP , BUT I THINK WE ARE JUST NOT IN A GOOD PLACE RIGHT NOW TO BE ABLE TO

SAY, YES. THAT WOULD BE MY VOTE TODAY. >> LET ME ASK A QUESTION, CLARIFICATION . IS IT THE GRANT PROCESS GOING TO OPEN NOVEMBER 1ST? APPLICATION PROCESS?

>> AND THEN, THERE COULD BE-- AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE TIMELINE . CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, I DON'T REMEMBER THE TIMELINE ON THE FUNDS FOR THE 20,000, WE DO HAVE A NOVEMBER 12TH ECC MEETING, OF WHICH PERHAPS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COULD BE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD TO SUGGEST THAT, TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. GABBY IS HERE AND CAN BRIEF THE BOARD ON THE PROCESS THAT WAS

SET UP AND APPROVED BY THE BOARD. >> THE APPLICATION OPEN OCTOBER 1ST. THE DEADLINE FOR THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS OCTOBER 31ST. THERE ARE MANY REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE APPROVED FOR THAT APPLICATION PROCESS . WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF

INTEREST IN APPLICATIONS COMING BEFORE THE BOARD. >> SO, IT OPENED OCTOBER 1ST

THROUGH OCTOBER 31ST? >> THAT IS CORRECT. THE GOAL FOR CONTRACTS IS TO BE COMPLETED BY DECEMBER SO THAT FUNDING CAN BE AWARDED IN JANUARY .

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ? LET'S SEE . FOR MR. COLLINS . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. COLLINS? THERE IS, ON THE TABLE , AN AGENDA ITEM FOR $20,000 GRANT APPLICATION . I WILL TAKE

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A MOTION FOR THAT, IF ANYBODY HAS ONE. >> MIGHT MOTION WOULD BE TO

DENY APPROVAL AT THIS TIME. >> THAT IS ONE WAY TO DO IT. >> SORRY.

>> MOTION TO DENY THE REQUEST TONIGHT . >> I WILL SECOND THAT SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IT , AND IF I CAN ROLL RIGHT INTO DISCUSSION, THE MONIES THAT ARE BEING APPLIED FOR BY NONPROFITS AT THIS TIME , BETWEEN OCTOBER 1ST AND THE 31ST WAS OUT OF THE AD VALOREM PART OF THE BUDGET. WE ARE TALKING ARPA FUNDS, THAT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT POT OF MONEY THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING. AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM LOOKING AT, AGAIN, SOME OF THE MATERIALS THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ASKED FOR , BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, I AM NOT READY TO MOVE FORWARD AND APPROVE THE MONEY UNTIL WE SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE. I GUESS THE BIG QUESTION IS, WHY HAVEN'T THE OTHER COUNTIES DECIDED TO -- THE SAME AMOUNT THAT THEY DID BEFORE? NOT SURE WHAT ST. JOHN'S DONATED THIS TIME AROUND, BUT IS IT THE SAME AS THEY HAVE

DONE IN THE PAST? >> I BELIEVE THE ASK OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY WAS-- IT WAS NOT HIM VOLUNTEERING , IT WOULD SIMPLY BE AN ASK OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

>> RIGHT. THE OTHER COMMENT, 800 POUND GORILLA IN JACKSONVILLE , THEY DID NOT

CONTRIBUTE THIS YEAR? >> NO. WE WERE DENIED TO MAKE AN ASK OF JACKSONVILLE THIS

YEAR. >> YOU DID NOT MAKE AN ASK ? >> NO, WE DID NOT.

>> THAT IS THE WAY THEY HANDLE THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS . >> SINCE GOING FORWARD AS A NONPROFIT , OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS ARE CITY COUNCILMAN . WE CHOSE NOT TO ASK JUST BECAUSE OF A POLITICAL PROBLEM , INSTEAD OF NATIONAL, MONETARY PROBLEM.

>> THERE ARE A LOT OF NONPROFITS THAT ASK JACKSON FOR MONEY.

>> NOT ALL OF THEM HAVE THEIR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AS A CITY COUNCIL.

>> AND HE IS ON THEIR FINANCE COMMITTEE . WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION, SPECIFICALLY, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT IT . WHEN I ASKED HIM THE QUESTION HE SAID, BECAUSE HE SITS ON THEIR FINANCE COMMITTEE THE WAY THEIR STRUCTURE IS DIFFERENT FROM OURS, OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE SO

MUCH BIGGER , HE SAID, THAT WAS WHY THE CHOICE WAS MADE. >> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. COLLINS ? I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DENY THE REQUEST . ANY OTHER

COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? >> I GUESS THAT I WOULD COMMENT. I WILL NOT VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE NEGATIVE MOTION . I WILL VOTE NO ON THE NEGATIVE MOTION, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING AND MY THINKING BACK IS THAT IN, AND MAYBE IT IS THEIR FAULT, MAYBE IT IS NOT . IN AUGUST, WHEN WE WERE GETTING READY TO VOTE AT THE BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER, ON OUR BUDGET PROCESS , THEY DID NOT REALIZE THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE MOVING TO OUR NEW FUNDING , OR APPLICATION MODEL FOR OUR NONPROFITS, THAT IS WHEN THEY WERE IN THE PROCESS OF CHANGING OVER. AND I JUST -- I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE CLAY VETERANS IN A LURCH. THAT SITS ON MY CONSCIOUS. A THIRD , A REDUCTION IN 33% OF OUR VETERAN SUICIDES IS HUGE. SO , FROM THAT ASPECT , AND MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION . MAYBE WE CAN MOVE TO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION IF THEY COME BACK. I UNDERSTAND THAT I AM IN THE MINORITY , THAT IS

WHY I WILL VOTE THE WAY I WILL VOTE. >> JUST SO WE ARE CLEAR, IF YOU VOTE NO ON THIS , IT DOESN'T MEAN I DISAPPEAR FROM CLAY COUNTY. THE FIRE WATCH WORK DOES NOT STOP, IT JUST MAKES IT EASIER. TO KEEP GOING WITH THAT . WE STILL HAVE, WHATEVER THE COUNTY CALLS US TO DO TRAINING FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES, OR ANY OF THE GROWING BUSINESSES IN THIS AREA, WOULD BE FIFTH DISTRICT -- TALKING ABOUT PARTNERING WITH THEM IN THE COMMUNITY, IT

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STILL DO WORK IN CLAY COUNTY. >> WHEN I MAKE A MOTION FOR NO, I MEAN TONIGHT, AND AS I DISCUSSED EARLIER I FELT LIKE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME BACK. WE HAVE TIME . I DON'T KNOW, DO WE CONTINUE ? MY MOTION WAS FOR TONIGHT , NO APPROVAL, DEFINITELY YOU SHOULD

COME BACK. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO STATE THAT. >> DO YOU WANT TO WALK BACK?

MOTION TO INCLUDE, REENGAGE IN NOVEMBER ? >> WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE NO

TONIGHT. WE CAN JUST SAY, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO SAY IT. >> RETRACT YOUR MOTION AND WE

WILL MAKE A NEW MOTION TO CONTINUE UNTIL NOVEMBER. >> I RETRACT MY MOTION, CONTINUED TO NOVEMBER AND I WOULD ASK BOARD MEMBERS THAT KNOW THE NUMBERS TO COME SO WE

CAN ACTUALLY GET THAT. >> I WITHDRAW MY SECOND. >> IS THAT YOUR MOTION?

>> OKAY, I SECOND . >> MAY I ASK A QUESTION? IF YOU GUYS DECIDE TO VOTE THAT WAY, CAN WE GET DIRECTION ? I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH MR. HOLLAND ON EXACTLY WHAT AGREEMENTS WE CAN WORK WITH LEGAL STAFF. ONE OPTION MAY BE, BECAUSE I HEAR THE CONCERN OF MAKING SURE THE DOLLARS ARE USED IN CLAY COUNTY. INSTEAD OF IT BEING HERE IS A STRAIGHT $20,000, GO DO GOOD, MAYBE TURN THAT INTO A REIMBURSEMENT. IF YOU SHOW UP AS YOU DID X TRAININGS IN CLAY COUNTY, WE GIVE YOU X DOLLARS AND THAT WAY IT IS SERVICES RENDERED IN CLAY COUNTY.

>> SOME DELIVERABLE . >> A DELIVERABLE WITH REIMBURSEMENT MAY BE A WAY TO PLEAD IT. WE ARE GETTING CLOSE TO THAT NOVEMBER, DECEMBER DEADLINE.

>> IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, IN THAT LIGHT, I WOULD BE MUCH MORE APT TO CONSIDER IT IN FUTURE BUDGET YEARS AS WELL . IT COULD BE CONTINUING, BECAUSE I THINK THE FIRE WATCH , I THINK WE ALL-- I HAVE NOT HEARD ONE PERSON THAT HAS BEEN ABLE TO TELL ME THAT FIRE WATCH DOES NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I HAVE THE PASSION AROUND IT, AND I TOLD YOU BEFORE, I AM BIASED.

AND MY SON HAS , THANKFULLY, NOT HAD TO USE FIRE WATCH SERVICES, BUT IT IS THERE IN THE EVENT. I DO NOT OBJECT TO THAT MODEL, I DID NOT OBJECT TO THE OTHER ONE I THINK THAT IS MUCH MORE DEFENSIBLE TO OUR TAXPAYERS, AND THE KIND OF, IN MY MIND, PULLS IT OUT OF WHERE THE NONPROFITS ARE GOING TO GO WITH WANTING THE GRANT. MAYBE I AM WRONG. WE TRIED FOR THE FIRST YEAR AND SEE HOW IT WORKS AND MAYBE IT DOESN'T WORK WELL.

>> IF I OFFER IT UP AS A POTENTIAL AREA WHERE, IF THAT IS THE CONCERN ABOUT SERVICES RENDERED IN CLAY COUNTY, THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO MAKE SURE THE SERVICES THAT YOU ARE PAYING

FOR ARE RENDERED IN CLAY COUNTY. >> MR. CHAIR, MY ONLY THING ON THAT IS USING ARPA FUNDS TO DO REIMBURSEMENT, IF YOU HAVE GOT TO USE THEM BEFORE THE END OF DECEMBER, HOW IS THAT GOING TO CARRY YOU THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR?

>> YOU CAN STILL SPEND THEM OVER THE NEXT YEAR, AS LONG AS THEY ARE OBLIGATED BY DECEMBER.

YOU HAVE UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR. >> HAVE TO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH

THE DELIVERABLES. >> AND THEY GET AREN'T . >> JUST MAKING SURE. AS LONG AS WE ARE IN AGREEMENT BY DECEMBER, THEY CAN USE OVER THE NEXT YEAR. THAT WOULD BE ONE WAY TO HANDLE THIS SITUATION , TO KIND OF MEET IN THE MIDDLE , IF THAT IS THE DESIRE OF THE

BOARD. >> I GUESS THE NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE TO DEREK, IF THAT IS SOMETHING THEY COULD PUT TOGETHER BY THAT TIMEFRAME OF WHAT KIND OF REIMBURSABLE, OR WHAT KIND OF PROGRAM THEY HAVE AND WHAT THAT COST WOULD BE PER EVENT, ALL OF THAT OTHER STUFF

. >> THAT IS KIND OF WHAT WE ARE DOING. WE ARE THROWING IT OUT

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>> I BELIEVE THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN WORK WITH. THAT IS THE WAY MANY GRANTS WORK. SOMETIMES YOU GET THE MONEY, SOMETIMES IT IS ON A REIMBURSABLE BASIS . A PERFECTLY, SMART THING TO DO.

WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO COME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT AND ALSO GET CLARIFICATIONS ON OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE SO WE CAN GET YOU MORE DIRECT ANSWERS

ON IT AS WELL. >> OKAY, WE WALKED BACK TO THE DENIAL , DO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? MOTION AND A SECOND TO CONTINUE WITH CONTINUED DISCUSSION WITH STAFF TO COME UP WITH A DELIVERABLE, EXECUTABLE MODEL FOR NOVEMBER.

>> I WOULD ASK THAT THIS BE CONTINUED TO THE SECOND MEETING IN NOVEMBER, TO GIVE US TIME TO WORK ON THE REIMBURSABLES, AND WORK WITH LEGAL TO WRITE THAT INTO AGREEMENT, IF WE COME TO A MUTUAL, WHAT MAKES SENSE, IF THAT IS ALLOWABLE TO THE BOARD IF THAT PLEASES THE BOARD.

>> 26TH. >> THAT IS GOOD. SECOND MEETING? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE. PASSES, UNANIMOUSLY . IT IS A LITTLE BIT PAST 5:00 . SORRY FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS . WE HAVE TO MOVE INTO THE LAST PRESENTATION . WE

[Florida Forest Service Annual Clay County Commissioners Reports (Carlton Scott/David Sechrist)]

HAVE TO MOVE INTO THE 5:00 CIRCUIT . SOME OF THESE ITEMS-- >> COMMISSIONER, RENNINGER, BEFORE WE MOVE, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND DO THE FORREST STREET PRESENTATION?

>> YOU WANT TO DO FOR STREET PRESENTATION ? WE SHOULD HAVE MR. SCOTT AND MR. SECHRIST .

>> SO, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS FOR HOSTING US THIS EVENING. REAL QUICK , MY NAME IS CARLTON SCOTT, BEE COUNTY FORSTER FOR CLAY COUNTY, ALSO CALLED THE COOPERATIVE CFA FORSTER. EVEN THOUGH CLAY IS DEVELOPING RAPIDLY, THERE IS STILL 200,000 ACRES OF TIMBER LAND IN THE COUNTY. SOME OF MY JOB DUTIES INCLUDE RUNNING FOREST MANAGEMENT PLANS FOR LAND OWNERS DISTRIBUTING COST SHARE PROGRAMS, CHECKING FOREST HEALTH, AND LOOKING OUT FOR DISEASES, SUCH AS SOUTHERN PINE NEEDLE, AS WELL IS DOING URBAN TREE PLANTINGS IN ELEMENTARY ÚSCHOOLS AND RETIREMENT COMMUNITIES LIKE PENNY FARMS .

OVER THIS LAST YEAR, I WROTE SIX MANAGEMENT PLANS, COVERING 13,000 ACRES. I HOSTED FIVE ARBOR DAY EVENTS FOR 190 ATTENDEES . AND I HOSTED FIVE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS FOR OVER 5000 CHILDREN AND ADULTS. I PERFORMED FOUR URBAN TREE PLANTING INSPECTIONS, AND I DID ONE AERIAL SURVEY LOOKING FOR SOUTHERN PINE BEETLE. THE MAJORITY OF MY TIME WAS SPENT DOING RURAL FORESTRY, AND ABOUT 13% OF MY TIME WAS SPENT DOING URBAN FORESTRY. WE HAD ONE OF TIMBER HARVEST ON DELMAR STATE FOREST FOR 230 ACRES, ONE TIMBER HARVEST ON STATE FORCE FOR 135 ACRES. WE REPLANTED 253 ACRES ON DELMAR AND GENIC STATE FOREST, BURNED OVER 5000 ACRES AS A PART OF OUR PRESCRIBED BURN PROGRAM , AND WE HOSTED OVER 180,000 VISITORS FOR RECREATION BETWEEN THOSE TWO STATES FOREST . WE ALSO CONDUCTED OUR ANNUAL TEACHERS TORE ME WHICH HOST TEACHERS THROUGHOUT FLORIDA AND THAT WAS ON GINNY STATE FLORIST FOREST.

IT IS AN OVERVIEW ON THE PROGRAMS WE DID THIS YEAR. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> AERIAL OBSERVATIONS WITH DRONES? >> NO, WE ACTUALLY JUST ARE STARTING UP OUR DRONE PROGRAM NOW, BUT RIGHT NOW, WE STILL USE CESSNA PLANE.

>> DEPLOYED TO WEST COAST FOR FIRE, FOREST FIRES OUT THERE IN CALIFORNIA, OREGON, WHEREVER

THEY WERE THIS YEAR? >> YEAH, I DID NOT DEPLOY THIS YEAR, BUT SOME OF MY COWORKERS DID. DAVID SECHRIST, WHO IS BEHIND ME , I THINK HE WENT TO OREGON. THEY SENT US ALL OVER, I JUST GOT MY WILDLAND FIREFIGHTER PATCH A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. SO, YEP.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD. CAN YOU TELL US THE KIND OF AFFECTS

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THE SOUTHERN PINE BEETLES DO TO A FORESTED AREA ? >> A SOUTHERN PINE BEETLE OUTBREAK CAN HAPPEN PRETTY RAPIDLY . USUALLY, IT IS AFTER OTHER STRESSES, LIKE DROUGHT OR FIRE . SOUTHERN PINE BEETLE, IN THE PAST, IT COULD DO MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DAMAGE TO TIMBER . USUALLY, THE ONLY WAY TO CONTROL IT IS TO KNOW TIMBER DOWN, USUALLY BEFORE IT IS PLANNED ON BEING HARVESTED . I THINK I MIGHT HAVE--

>> I APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP AND THE WORK YOU ALL DO. BUT I AM HEARING SOME OF OUR PRIVATE, TIMBER LAND OWNERS SAYING , THAT THEY ARE STARTING TO SEE SOME DISEASE, AND OR PINE BEETLES . DO YOU WORK WITH THEM? DO THEY WORK WITH YOU , SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE SPREAD

FROM THEIR LAND INTO YOURS? >> FELL, I ACTUALLY ALMOST WORK EXCLUSIVELY WITH PRIVATE LANDOWNERS . ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL DO, YOU CALL ME, OR SEND ME AN EMAIL, I WILL COME TO THEIR PROPERTY AND LOOK UNDER THE BARK OF ANY INFECTED TREES SO TO SEE IF I CAN IDENTIFY PINE BEETLES. THERE ARE ALSO OTHER BEETLES THAT LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO SOUTHERN PINE BEETLE , BUT IT IS CAUSED BY OTHER STRESSES . AND WHEN I DO SEE SOUTHERN PINE BEETLE OUTBREAKS , I MONITORED THEM AND MAKE SURE THEY DON'T SPREAD . SO FAR, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING OVER MAYBE LIKE A QUARTER ACRE OF DAMAGE. WE HAVE BEEN LUCKY, EVEN THOUGH THERE HAVE BEEN STRESSES AND FIRES RECENTLY, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THAT WOULD INDICATE A MASSIVE

OUTBREAK. >> OKAY, THANKS. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ? DOES

THAT COMPLETE YOUR BRIEF? >> OKAY, FOLKS, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT. I AM DAVID SECHRIST, FOR STREET AREA SUPERVISOR . TO SIMPLIFY OUR AGENCY, MR. SCOTT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE. WE HAVE RESOURCE AND OTHER OPERATIONS. I HAVE 11 FULL TIME OPERATORS IN CLAY COUNTY THAT THEIR PRIMARY MISSION IS-- VERY CLOSELY WITH MR. SCOTT. HE HAS KIND OF SPECIALTIES, NOT THE FIRE GUY , PER SE. LOOKING BACK AT SOME OF THE TOPICS I WILL TOUCH ON HERE REAL QUICK FOR OUR '23 , '24 SEASON , JUST UNDER 90 ACRES . THAT IS FANTASTIC. THAT IS A REALLY GOOD NUMBER, KNOCK ON WOOD, THAT WE HAVE A GOOD, WET SEASON AHEAD OF US. OBVIOUSLY, WILDFIRES, YOU KNOW IT IS WHETHER DEPENDENT . MOTHER NATURE IS WHAT WILL GUIDE OUR FIRES . SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT OUR AGENCY DOES, WE ISSUE-- WE OVERSEE ALL THE ISSUING OF PILE BURNING FOR DEVELOPMENTS. CLAY COUNTY, WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT. ALL OF THE CONTRACTORS ARE LAND CLEARING, BURNING PILES. YOU SEE ALL THE SOCIAL MEDIA STUFF ABOUT SMOKE , AND IMPACTS. WE HAVE TO MANAGE ALL OF THAT STUFF. ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO IS WE MANAGE AUTHORIZATIONS FOR PILE BURNING FOR CONTRACTORS. WE AUTHORIZE POWELL BURNING FOR REGULAR CAKE CLAY COUNTY CITIZENS, AND WE DO AUTHORIZE -- WE CALL BROADCAST, JUST PRESCRIBED BURNING ACREAGE . IF YOU LOOK, 1127 BROADCAST BURN AUTHORIZATIONS ISSUED FOR ROUGHLY 28,500 ACRES IN CLAY COUNTY JUST THIS PAST YEAR.

THAT IS A PRETTY GOOD AMOUNT. THE REAL IMPRESSIVE NUMBER IS THE 2004 PILE BURN

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OBVIOUSLY, AS WE GET MORE BUILT, WE HAVE SCHOOL ZONES, ROAD SYSTEMS, AND STUFF WE CAN HAVE SMOKE ON, IT IS A CHALLENGE. WE DID 2004 OF THOSE, 87 ON-SITE INSPECTIONS CONDUCTED PRIOR TO ISSUING BURN AUTHORIZATIONS. WE ARE RUNNING AROUND EDUCATING PEOPLE, PRIVATE LAND OWNERS AND WHAT NOT. WE DO PRESCRIBED BURN ASSISTS FOR LAND OWNERS. IF YOU ARE A CLAY COUNTY RESIDENT THAT HAS ACREAGE AND WANTS TO BURN YOUR WOULD, WE GO OUT AND HELP YOU. BASICALLY, 5254 ACRES WERE BURNED ON LAND MANAGEMENT BY THE SERVICE IN THE COUNTY .

THAT IS A GOOD NUMBER. I WOULD LIKE TO DOUBLE THAT, PERSONALLY. HAD SOME GOALS FOR AREA BURNING, MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET 7000 ACRES IN A DAY, WHICH WOULD BE NICE. 104 ACRES IMPROVED ON PUBLIC LAND AND EFFORTS WITH OUR MITIGATION CREW . WE HAVE A WHOLE MITIGATION CREW THAT IS OUT OF THE GAINESVILLE AREA THAT WILL GO OUT AND DO WILDFIRE MITIGATION . THEY DO REALLY GOOD WORK IN AREAS YOU ALMOST CAN'T PUT SMOKE ANYMORE . SAY AN OAK LEAF, OAK LEAF AREA WHERE YOU CAN'T EXACTLY GO IN AND PRESCRIBED ACREAGE BURNED ANYMORE, BECAUSE THERE IS TOO MANY SMOKE ISSUES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THEY CAN GO IN WITH MECHANICAL TYPE EQUIPMENT AND GET SOME OF THAT VEGETATION TAKEN DOWN. WE DO A LOTS OF FIRE PREVENTION OUTREACH STUFF , OVER 20 IN CLAY COUNTY. OBVIOUSLY, THE CLAY COUNTY FAIR IS A BIG ONE. MR. SCOTT TALKED ABOUT THE TEACHERS TOUR THAT OUR AGENCY SUPPORTS. THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF TOPICS I WANTED TO POINT OUT TO Y'ALL , SOME OF OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS. I WILL TELL YOU, WE TRAVEL A LOT . I LIVE IN CLAY COUNTY. I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE ' 09 . I TRAVEL THROUGHOUT THE STATE, DEALING WITH CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

ONE THING THAT ALWAYS IMPRESSES ME THAT I AM REALLY PROUD OF WHEN I COME BACK HOME IS MY RELATIONSHIP WITH THESE GENTLEMEN IN THE WHITE SHIRTS, CLAY COUNTY FIRE AND RESCUE AND HOW WE WORK TOGETHER. PART OF THE REASON WE ONLY HAD 90 ACRES IN CLAY COUNTY , I NEED TO GIVE IT TO THOSE GUYS TOO. IT IS A UNIFIED COMMAND APPROACH TO WHAT WE ARE DOING OUT HERE.

THEY TYPICALLY BEAT ME TO THE FIRE AND THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO WHEN THEY GET THERE. IT IS A REALLY GOOD THING. AND I THINK NORTHEAST FLORIDA , THIS AREA, HAS NOT REALLY EXPERIENCED AN ACTIVE OUR FIRE SEASON SINCE 2011, 2012 . IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN AND I FEEL REALLY GOOD BETWEEN US AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WE WILL BE ABLE TO PROTECT A LOT OF LAND IN SOME

HOMES. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME . ANY QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH MR.

SECHRIST. THANK YOU. >>> I'M GOING TO MOVE ON WITH THE AGENDA AS WRITTEN HERE. I WILL RECOGNIZE THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS I SEE , MS. CRANE HERE FOR CLERK OF COURTS, I DON'T SEE THE SHERIFF FOR ANYTHIN. I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE MR. DOUG KAKI, PREVIOUS COMMISSION AS WELL AS DAN ROYAL, FORMER GREEN COVE CITY COUNCIL, AS WELL AS

MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING TONIGHT. >>> NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS THE

APPROVAL OF MINUTES . >> IF I MAY, THE CLERK HAD A COMMENT .

>> DID YOU WANT TO DO 5:00 , FIRST? >> YOU WANT TO MAKE ALL THE RESIDENTS WAIT, I DON'T. WE ARE GOING TO MAKE RESIDENCE A PRIORITY HERE TONIGHT.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

>> THANK YOU, SO SHE CAN BE RECOGNIZED. >> APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

>> APPROVAL . >> I SECOND . >> A MOTION TO APPROVE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OCTOBER 8TH. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? MOVING ON.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

FOR EVERYBODY'S IDENTIFICATION, THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA IS DESIGNED TO ALLOW

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>> GOOD EVENING. ADAM WARREN , 2839 HARVEST MOON DRIVE. I COME TO YOU THIS MORNING , I DON'T

SEE A TIMER, I WILL DO MY BEST . >> THE LITTLE GREEN LIGHT IS

THE TIMER . >> PERFECT. COMING TO YOU ABOUT THE TRASH , THE NEW TRASH COMPANY WE HAVE GOTTEN WITH, I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS, I WANT TO BRING FORTH THE REASON I AM COMING TO YOU. I AM A FATHER WITH FOUR KIDS, I AM MARRIED AND MY WIFE COOKS UP TO FIVE TIMES A WEEK . I DID SOME GOOGLING WHILE WAITING, A FEW OF YOU HAVE FOUR KIDS, I HAVE LEARNED , AT LEAST ONE OF YOU HAS A CONCERNED-- IT IS UNREASONABLE YOU THINK WE CAN FIT THE AMOUNT OF TRASH INTO THIS ONE RECEPTACLE IN ONE WEEKS TIME , AND NOT HAVE ANYTHING SITTING ON THE SIDE. THIS COMPANY REQUIRES THE LEAD TO BE COMPLETELY SHUT , IT CAN'T BE OPENED . REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY TELL YOU, THEY DRIVE RIGHT PAST IT WHEN IT IS BARELY OPENED . I JUST THINK IT IS REALLY HARD TO EXPECT THAT OF US . OBVIOUSLY NOW , YES, WE CAN GET ANOTHER TRASHCAN AT 68 BLOCKS AND WEEKLIES IT. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COUNTY IS REQUIRING US TO PAY $60 ON TOP OF THAT, YEARLY. THE COUNTY IS SAVING A LOT OF MONEY GOING WITH THIS COMPANY, BUT YOUR TAXPAYERS ARE HAVING TO NOW PAY EXTRA, AND GO THROUGH EXTRA HEARTACHES OF HAVING THIS TRASH SITTING OUT AND ALL THAT . I AM A HOMEOWNER . ALSO, ANOTHER THING GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE IS NO RECYCLING . ANYBODY THAT WAS RECYCLING IS REQUIRED TO PUT ALL OF THEIR RECYCLING INTO THIS ONE TRASHCAN. THERE WAS AN EXITING THE NEIGHBORHOOD YESTERDAY, A FAMILY MOVED OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MOVE OUT, YOU PILE A BUNCH OF TRASH AT THE END OF THE ROAD. WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? BECAUSE THEY LEFT . MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO GO OVER THERE AND GET UP ALL THIS TRASH. PRIOR, THE OLD COMPANY WOULD TAKE THIS TRASH -- NOT THAT I THINK THAT WAS FAIR, I DON'T, BUT THEY ALWAYS DID . NOT SAYING THIS COMPANY SHOULDN'T , OUR NEW COMPANY OR WHATEVER , BUT I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THAT MAYBE YOU COULD CONSIDER THE FAMILIES THAT DO QUALIFY FOR AN ADDITIONAL CAN, THAT WE WAIVE THAT CHARGE FOR THE ADDITIONAL CAN, AND OR ADDITIONALLY WAIVE THE EXTRA $60 WE HAVE TO PAY. I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY DESERVES THAT. A FAMILY OF TWO , OR WHATNOT PROBABLY DOES NOT NEED AN EXTRA CAN. FAMILIES LIKE MYSELF, LIKE I SAID, I AM A CLAY COUNTY RESIDENT, BEEN HERE 10 YEARS, LEVY COUNTY AND EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS AREA . I JUST DON'T THINK IT IS FAIR THAT NOW I SHOULD HAVE TO PAY EXTRA, JUST BECAUSE WE ARE RAISING A FAMILY HERE IN CLAY COUNTY. AGAIN, MY WIFE, A GREAT COOK . WE DO ACCUMULATE A LOT OF TRASH WITH FOUR KIDS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. NANCY MCDANIELS.

>> JUST LOWER THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT. IS A ME, MY NAME IS NANCY MCDANIELS. MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT BY NOW. I AM NOT HERE TO COMPLAIN, I AM NOT. 2009, MY NEIGHBORHOOD FLOODED AND RECEIVED A LETTER DAMAGE, FOR YEARS WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET IT FIXED. A FEW YEARS AGO, I HAD A COUNTY EMPLOYEE TOLD ME, WELL WE HAVE A NEW COUNTY MANAGER, HIS NAME IS HOWARD WANAMAKER, YOU SHOULD CALL HIM, AND I DID. ACTUALLY, I EMAILED HIM AND HE CALLED ME BACK WITHIN AN HOUR . HE CAME TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD, HE WALKED THE ENTIRE HALF MILE LOOP , HE TOOK RESPONSIBILITY AT THAT MOMENT AND HE SAID, THIS IS WRONG , IT IS GOING TO BE CLEANED UP QUICKLY, AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, DID NOT BELIEVE IT, SORRY, DID NOT BELIEVE IT. TWO HOURS LATER, I HAD SIX COUNTY TRUCKS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY DID A YEARS WORTH OF MAINTENANCE.

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IT IS NOT GOING TO BE TODAY, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE TOMORROW. I NEED YOU TO HAVE PATIENCE WITH ME. DURING THIS PROCESS, YOU COMMUNICATE WITH MRS. STEWART , Y'ALL WORK IT OUT, AS SOON AS WE CAN, WE WILL FIX IT. MRS. STEWART, YOU ARE THE BOMB. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT RIGHT NOW. YOU ARE THE BOMB. THIS WOMAN LISTENS. SHE IS PROACTIVE, JUST NOT REACTIVE, SHE HAS BEEN AMAZING. CHARLIE, I THINK HIS LAST NAME IS MEYER , AM I RIGHT? YOUR AREA SUPERVISOR, CHARLIE , AND THE COMPANY YOU HAD INSTALLED THE DRAIN IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE , WE HAD THREE STORMS, FOLKS , BACK TO BACK , TOO. GUESS HOW MUCH FLOODING WE GOT? ZERO. WE WERE SCARED THE FIRST STORM, HE WAS SCARED THE SECOND STORM COME OF THE LAST STORM WE HAD A HURRICANE PARTY IN OUR GARAGE BECAUSE WE KNEW OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS NOT GOING TO FLOOD. YOU SAID, I GIVE YOU MY WORD, THIS WILL BE DONE. YOU MADE THAT PROMISE , YOU KEPT THAT PROMISE , AND YOUR STAFF ARE AMAZING . SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I SAY THAT FROM ME AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AS THEY ARE TEXTING ME TO SAY, THANK YOU, THANK YOU . OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS BETTER. WE DO NOT HAVE A TOUR OF ROAD. I HAVE SEEN MORE OF MY NEIGHBORS IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS , THEN THE LAST THREE YEARS BECAUSE IT IS FUN. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE

YOU. >> CLARENCE AND FELICIA HILLSHIRE. IS THIS A TAGTEAM?

OKAY, YOU ARE VANA . >> GOOD EVENING . MY NAME IS CLARENCE, I LIVE AT 508 FRANKLIN STREET HERE IN GREEN COVE SPRINGS. I AM AT THE COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING. I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF MIDDLEBURG . I'M SPEAKING TO YOU ABOUT THE EVENT THAT SOME GUYS OF US HAVE COME TOGETHER AND WE ARE PLANNING, AT THE MIDDLEBURG HUNTER DOUGLASPARK , ON THE BASEBALL FIELD , WE ARE PLANNING AN EVENT , AND WHERE IS THE EVENT? WHAT IS THE EVENT , EXCUSE ME, IS TO HONOR A TEAM THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED SINCE 1962, BASEBALL. ALSO , THERE IS ANOTHER TEAM THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1975, WHICH WAS A SOFTBALL TEAM. THIS WAS ON A HISTORICAL SITE , THE ONLY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT IS IN MIDDLEBURG THAT WHEN I WENT TO THAT SCHOOL, BEFORE WE INTEGRATED , THAT IS WHERE WE PLAYED AND HAD ALL THE GAMES.

THESE GAMES WERE PLAYED WITH ALL AROUND FROM GAINESVILLE, JACKSONVILLE, THEY TAUGHT THEM ALL. THIS IS THE FIRST BLACK TEAM, BASEBALL TEAM . MOST OF THESE GUYS WERE VETERANS . AND MOST OF THESE GUYS WERE DRAFTED INTO THE VIETNAM WAR. SOME OF THEM DID NOT COME HOME. THERE ARE SOME , MAYBE ONE OR TWO THAT ARE STILL ALIVE . IN FACT, ONE OF THEM IS A COACH THAT WE WANT TO HONOR HIM AND HONOR ONE OF THE OTHER TEAMMATES THAT IS STILL ALIVE TODAY. THOSE TWO GUYS ARE COACHES IN THEIR 80S NOW. ON NOVEMBER 10TH, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS EVENT THAT WILL RECOGNIZE THEM AND ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THOSE WHO HAVE GONE ON , AND ALSO WITH THE SOFTBALL TEAM , MOST OF THEM ARE STILL HERE , BUT WE ARE ASKING YOU ALL, INVITING YOU ALL TO COME OUT TO THIS EVNT ON A SUNDAY AT 3:00 . THIS IS SOMETHING WE USED TO HAVE AFTER CHURCH , WE USED TO HAVE AT 3:00, EVERYBODY WOULD COME OUT AND SEE THESE GAMES . THERE WAS

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>> DO YOU HAVE A NAME FOR THE EVENT?

SUPPORTING . >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> NEXT UP IS JULIA GARRETT .

>> GOOD EVENING . HI, MY NAME IS JULIE GARRETT. MY ADDRESS IS 2550 COURT STREET , MADISON, WISCONSIN 53704. I AM HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I AM A PUBLIC AFFAIRS SPECIALIST WITH THE SBA OFFICE OF DISASTER RECOVERY AND RESILIENCE . I WAS SO HAPPY TO HEAR THAT YOU DID NOT HAVE HAD DAMAGE HERE FROM MILTON . EVEN THOUGH YOU DID NOT, THE CITIZENS OF CLAY COUNTY ARE STILL ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR DISASTER LOANS . A PART OF OUR OUTREACH IS I AM HERE TO TELL YOU THAT THE PROGRAM IS OPEN TO YOUR RESIDENCE AND ENCOURAGE ANYONE THAT DID HAVE DAMAGE, THAT THEY CAN APPLY FOR A DISASTER LOAN . I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU REALLY BRIEFLY WHAT THE PROGRAM IS. CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? SO, THE DEADLINE TO APPLY FOR A PHYSICAL DISASTER LOAN IS NOT UNTIL DECEMBER 10TH. THAT IS FOR BUSINESSES, NONPROFITS, HOMEOWNERS , AND RENTERS. THE INTEREST RATES ARE REALLY GREAT FOR THESE LOANS . THEY ARE SUPER LOW, AS LOW AS 2.183% FOR HOMEOWNERS AND RENTERS , 4% FOR BUSINESSES, AND 3.25% FOR NONPROFITS. THERE IS NO PAYMENT REQUIRED FOR THE FIRST YEAR OF THE LOAN . THERE IS NO INTEREST ACCRUING DURING THAT YEAR. BY THE WAY, IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS OR FAMILY IN SOME OF THE COUNTIES THAT WERE VERY HEAVILY IMPACTED, THEY ARE ELIGIBLE WHERE THEY ARE AS WELL. BUSINESSES CAN APPLY FOR UP TO $2 MILLION, HOMEOWNERS UP TO $500,000 FOR THEIR PROPERTIES . IT HAS TO BE THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE. IT CANNOT BE A VACATION HOME ALONG THE RIVER, IT HAS TO BE THERE PRIMARY RESIDENCE. AND RENTERS AND HOMEOWNERS CAN APPLY FOR UP TO $100,000 FOR THEIR PERSONAL PROPERTY THAT WAS DAMAGED , AND THAT INCLUDES VEHICLES . IF THEIR CAR WAS FLOODED , AND THEY HAVE HAD TO BUY A NEW CAR, AND THE INTEREST RATE ON THEIR CAR LOAN IS HIGHER THAN THAT TO ME THEY CAN USE AN SBA LOAN TO PAY THAT DOWN. I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO LET YOUR RESIDENTS KNOW . I MET EARLIER TODAY WITH MR. THOMAS OVER IN THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICE, TOLD ME YOU WERE HAVING YOUR MEETING, SO I WILL EMAIL YOU THIS INFORMATION TO ME SO THAT YOU HAVE IT FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS . I KNOW YOU CAN'T ASK ME QUESTIONS, BUT IF YOU DO HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU WILL HAVE MY CONTACT INFORMATION . I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT.

>> THANK YOU. LASHANDA LYCHEE.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD . I AM AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL CONGRESSIONAL AFFAIRS RIVER FOR FEMA . SO FAR, CLAY COUNTY HAS BEEN INCLUDED WITH THE DECLARATION FOR HURRICANE MILTON . IF YOU GUYS WANT TO LOOK ANY OF IT UP, IT IS DR4834. SO, THIS MEANS THAT RESIDENCE WITHIN YOUR COUNTY , THEY CAN APPLY FOR INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE, PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, CATEGORIES A AND B ARE THOSE ARE YOUR EMERGENCY PROTECTIVE MEASURES , AS WELL AS DEBRIS

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BEING DONE IS TO YOUR UTMOST CONVENIENCE. >> WE HAVE SEEN A FEW EMAILS.

>> EVERYONE IS BOOTS ON THE GROUND RUNNING . YOU HAVE GOT 50 MILLION THINGS COMING AT YOU AT ONE TIME. THE REASON WHY WE SEND YOU SO MUCH INFORMATION IS Y'ALL KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING,

ALSO TO PUSH THAT INFORMATION . >> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH.

>> GIANNA . MAYBE I DID NOT PRONOUNCE IT CORRECTLY. GIANNI? I'M SORRY.

>> GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. I LIVE AT 414 CAPRICORN LANE IN ORANGE PARK .

I AM HERE TO SOMEWHAT ADDRESS THE NEW COMPANY YOU ALL HAVE HIRED, FCC . I'VE SEEN A LOT OF -- AND I AM ENCOURAGING ALL TO MAYBE DRIVE SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE AREAS THAT YOU LIVE IN. TO ME, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, LOOKING AROUND AND DRIVING AROUND NOW, IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS TURNING INTO A DUMP. I REALIZE THAT YOU CAN GO AND BUY THESE STICKERS, THINGS

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NEIGHBORHOODS AND TAKE A LOOK . THAT IS ALL I HAVE. >> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH. DAVID HOUSE.

>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY MY NAME IS DAVID HOUSE . I LIVE AT 14 CAPRICORN LANE. I HAPPEN TO BE NEIGHBORS WITH JOHN . JUST REITERATING WHAT WHAT HE COMMENTED ABOUT, AND I EVEN HAVE PICTURES ON MY PHONE I CAN BRING IT UP TO YOU TO LOOK AT ON THE TRASH PILING UP ON THE STREETS RIGHT NOW. FTC IS CONVINCED, ALL THEY HAVE TO PICK UP IS THAT FIND A GARBAGE CAN EVERYONE GOT DELIVERED. THAT IS ALL THEY WANT TO PICK UP . EVERYTHING ELSE STAYS IN THERE. I THINK A BIG MISTAKE WAS MADE SIGNING A CONTRACT WITH THEM . I KNOW SOME PEOPLE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY ARE LAUGHING AT US HERE IN CLAY COUNTY FOR GETTING A CONTRACT WITH THEM. AND I THINK YOU SHOULD LOOK AT IT AND GET WASTE MANAGEMENT BACK. I WOULD RATHER PAY MORE ON THEIR FEES THAN TRYING TO NOT HAVE THE GARBAGE TAKEN AWAY FROM OUR STREETS.

THE OTHER THING I HAVE , I CAN'T REMEMBER THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME , PICKING UP STORM DEBRIS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, HE MADE A COMMENT, HE HAD TO GET SOMEONE FROM ENVIRONMENTAL . EVERY YEAR, WE HAVE A HURRICANE SEASON . THAT SHOULD ALREADY BE IN PLACE BEFORE HURRICANE SEASON EVEN STARTS SO THESE PEOPLE THAT PICK UP THE DEBRIS HAVE A PLACE TO DUMP IT. THAT IS MY QUESTION, WHY NOT? THAT IS ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR

TIME. >> THANK YOU. I HAVE NO MORE CARDS. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION? SEE NONE, I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION. WE WILL MOVE TO 5:00 CERTAIN . 5:00 CERTAIN INVOLVES SOME ZONING CHANGES . IT IS A QUASI JUDICIAL TYPE SITUATION WHERE, IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK , JUST FOR INFORMATION,

27, 28 , 29, AND 30 ARE GOING TO BE CONTINUED >> THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED

IT. >> 27, 28, 29 ARE REQUESTED TO BE CONTINUED. WHAT THAT MEANS, IF WE APPROVE THAT WHEN WE GET TO THAT, WE WILL NOT BE HEARING THOSE ITEMS, BUT THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO THOSE . IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO 27, 28, AND 29, YOU WILL HAVE TO GO, ALONG WITH ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON TIME CERTAIN ITEMS , GET SWORN IN BY THE COUNTY CLERK . IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK 126, 27, 28 29, 30 , YOU WILL WANT TO COME TO THE

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>> JUST TO BE CLEAR, 27, 28, 29 , 30. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ON 26, 27, 28, 29, 30 ITEM . OKAY. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE

[26.  Final Public Hearing to consider codification of the Clay County Land Conservation Program (D. Selig)]

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM NUMBER 26 IS THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER

CODIFICATION OF CLAY COUNTY LAND CONSERVATION PROGRAM. >> GOOD EVENING. PLEASED TO BE BRINGING THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. JUST TO GIVE THE PUBLIC THAT MAY BE ATTENDING A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS PROGRAM AND ITS CREATION, THIS PROCESS STARTED IN THE FALL OF '22. THE COUNTY RETAINED THE NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST, THEY IDENTIFIED CONSERVATION VALUES AND PRIORITIES OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE COUNTY. THEY WERE ASKED TO IDENTIFY NATURAL RESOURCES WITHIN THE COUNTY AND DEVELOP A BLUEPRINT DOCUMENT FOR A CONSERVATION PROGRAM. IN THE SPRING AND SUMMER OF LAST YEAR, THE LAND TRUST HELD MULTIPLE PUBLIC WORKSHOPS THAT CREATED AN ONLINE SURVEY THAT GATHERED PUBLIC INPUT. IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, THAT FINAL DOCUMENT WAS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD. IT IS ENTITLED CLAY COUNTY LAND CONSERVATION BLUEPRINT FOR SUCCESS. A BIT OF A MOUTHFUL . IT SERVES AS THE FRAMEWORK FOR THIS PROGRAM AND STAFF WOULD REALLY LIKE TO THANK THE NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST FOR THEIR INVALUABLE KNOWLEDGE AND ASSISTANCE TO US IN CREATING THE PROGRAM THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT TONIGHT. JUST TO GIVE A QUICK SUMMARY OF WHAT THE PROGRAM DOES, THIS IS A COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY PROGRAM , WHEREBY LAND OR CONSERVATION EASEMENTS MAY BE REQUIRED BY THE COUNTY FROM A WILLING SELLER IN ORDER TO FURTHER THE CONSERVATION GOALS THAT WERE VOICED BY THE BOARD AND THE RESIDENTS OF CLAY COUNTY, TO PROTECT THE WATER RESOURCES WILDLIFE HABITAT, OR STENT FARMS IN CLAY COUNTY. THE PROGRAM INCLUDES THE PURCHASE OF LAND AND THE PURCHASE OF CONSERVATION EASEMENTS, WHICH CAN BE OVER SOME OR ALL OF A PROPERTY. THEY WOULD BE A COMMITTEE ESTABLISHED AS A PART OF THIS PROGRAM. ALL OF THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, AS ALL OF OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS ARE. IT WILL BE A NOTICE IN THE COUNTY WEBSITE AND NEWSPAPERS. THE ORDIENCE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS BROKEN INTO SIX DIFFERENT DIVISIONS, THE FIRST IS A GENERAL DIVISION PURPOSE AND INTENT AND DEFINITIONS. THE SECOND DIVISION IT CREATES THAT LAND CONSERVATION COMMITTEE THAT I MENTIONED. THE THIRD DIVISION IS THE SITE SELECTION PROCESS, WHEREBY LAND IS CHOSEN . FOUR IS THE ACQUISITION OF CONSERVATION LAND , FIVE IS THE STEWARDSHIP, MANAGEMENT OF ACQUIRED PROPERTIES, SIX IS MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS. THE PROGRAM WILL GO THROUGH A NUMBER OF STEPS . A PROPERTY WOULD BE NOMINATED TO THE PROGRAM BY THE PUBLIC , OR BY THE LAND OWNER . THERE WOULD BE AN INITIAL OFFICE REVIEW BY STAFF. THE LAND COMMITTEE WILL DETERMINE IF THE PROPERTIES INCLUDED IN THE ELIGIBILITY PULL OF THE PROPERTIES . STAFF WILL THEN CONDUCT A SITE EVALUATION AND CREATE A PROPERTY EVALUATION REPORT. THE COMMITTEE WILL DETERMINE IF THE PROPERTY MOVES ON TO WHAT IS CALLED THE PRIORITY PULL, WHICH PRIORITY PROPERTIES DETERMINED BY THEM . THEN, THE BOARD WILL DECIDE WHICH OF THOSE PROPERTIES WILL MOVE TO ACTIVE ACQUISITION LIST. STAFF WILL THEN BE AUTHORIZED TO NEGOTIATE ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD AND PREPARE THE DOCUMENTATION FOR THAT ACQUISITION . AFTER WHICH, THE BOARD WILL MAKE A FINAL DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO ACCEPT THE SALES CONTRACT. STAFF WILL FINALIZE A STEWARDSHIP PROGRAM FOR LONG-TERM MANAGEMENT OF THE PROPERTY, EVALUATE THE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS ON A YEARLY BASIS AND ANNUALLY REPORT TO THE COMMITTEE AND TO THE BOARD ON THE PROGRAM TO DATE . JUST TO GIVE EVERYONE KIND OF A NEXT STEPS, WHAT TO EXPECT IF THE ORDINANCE TONIGHT IS APPROVED IN THE JANUARY, FEBRUARY TIMEFRAME, WE WOULD HAVE AN OPEN NOMINATION PERIOD FOR LAND CONSERVATION COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIPS IN MARCH OR APRIL

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YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, THAT WAS MY PRESENTATION. >> ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A PROCESS, WHICH IS NOT FUNDED RIGHT NOW, IN THE BUDGET , OR OTHERWISE. WE ARE JUST APPROVING A PROCESS TONIGHT, OR THE PROPOSAL IS JUST TO APPROVE A PROCESS.

>> RIGHT. >> ONCE AGAIN, EARLY VOTING STARTED TODAY. THERE IS A REFERENDUM ON THE BALLOT FOR THE PUBLIC TO DETERMINE WHETHER THEY WANT TO FUND SUCH A

PROGRAM . >> YES . >> ANY QUESTIONS ? TAKE A MOTION . THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING . I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR OF PUBLIC HEARING TO TALK ABOUT OUR CONSERVATION PROGRAM , AS DEFINED BY DOTY . SEEING NONE , CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING PART AND

BRING BACK TO COMMISSION . >> WE APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE. >> SECOND.

>> COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS . ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY NAY? PASSES , 5-0.

[27.  Final Public Hearing to Consider adoption of COMP 24-0016 and ZON 24-0019. (District 5, Comm. Burke) (J.Bryla)]

[28.  Final Public Hearing to consider the adoption of COMP 24-0017 and ZON 24-0023. (District 5, Comm. Burke) (J.Bryla)]

[29.  Final Public Hearing to consider the adoption of COMP 24-0018 and ZON 24-0024. (District 5, Comm. Burke) (J.Bryla)]

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME? THESE ARE ALL COMPANION PIECES . THESE SIX, OR THESE THREE ITEMS, 26, 27, 28, 29 . I DID FIND OUT, HOWEVER THAT CASE NUMBER ZON -004-29 WAS NOT ADVERTISED HARPER LEE. THEY ADVERTISED TWO OF THE COMP PLAN PIECES, SO THAT ONE WILL BE REQUIRED TO CONTINUE. I DO BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND WANTS TO SPEAK ON THESE ITEMS, AS HE WANTS TO SUPPLEMENT SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED INITIALLY.

>> I AM LOOKING FOR 20019. >> NO, IT IS ITEM 20 7B. >> OKAY, I AM ON BOARD NOW. IS

THE APPLICANT HERE? >> HI, MY NAME IS KELLY HART. I LIVE IN CLAY COUNTY. WHEN WE FIRST BROUGHT THIS BEFORE THE CITIZENS COMMITTEE , EVERYTHING WAS FINE. THERE ARE THREE PIECES OF PROPERTY AND WE HAVE A FOURTH PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS A CONTINUOUS TO THIS THAT IS RUNNING ABOUT A MONTH BEHIND. EVERYTHING WAS FINE. WE WENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, AND WE HAD THREE NEIGHBORS COME UP WITH CONCERNS . WE FELT LIKE AFTER THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, WE NEEDED TO BASICALLY CONTINUE THIS. WE ARE BASICALLY ASKING YOU TO PUSH THIS TO JANUARY AND FEBRUARY . WE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE NEIGHBORS' CONCERNS, ADDRESS THIS ON ITS FINAL USE, HOW IT WOULD BE DONE, AND TAKE IT BACK TO THE CITIZENS BOARD WITH THIS FOURTH PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAS TO GO BEFORE THEM. ANYWAY, THAT WAY, THE WHOLE PACKAGE, ALL FOUR PROPERTIES WILL COME BEFORE YOU AT ONE TIME. THAT WAY YOU GET ALL OF THE INFORMATION, VERSUS JUST PORTIONS AND WE CAN HOPEFULLY ADDRESS SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS' CONCERNS AND EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS. THAT IS WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR THE CONTINUANCES.

>> CONTINUE TO AT LEAST JANUARY? >> JANUARY, OR THE FIRST

MEETING IN FEBRUARY IS FINE WITH ME . >> ANYTHING ELSE? I WANT TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING ON ALL THREE ITEMS. OPEN PUBLIC HEARING ON THE COMP PLAN OR AMENDMENT , AS WELL AS SONY CHANGES. SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE-- GO AHEAD. COME ON UP.

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>> YES, PLEASE. >> PATRICIA ROSS, 5423 COUNTY ROAD, SOUTH GREEN COVE. I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF CITIZENS ON ITEMS 27, 28, 29 , I BELIEVE, BECAUSE AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING , THERE WERE A LOT OF CONCERNS WITH HEAVY USE ON THE ROADS , JUST THE LAND IN GENERAL BEING MORE RESIDENTIAL, BRINGING COMMERCIAL TO THAT AREA. I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE WILL CONTINUE THIS AND GET MORE

INFORMATION FOR THAT AREA. >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS? SEE

ONE MORE . CLAIMANT >> GOOD EVENING, DAN ROYLE, 3688 LACOSTE THE COURT . JUST A POINT OF PROCEDURE , IF YOU ARE GOING TO DELAY IT, WONDERFUL. IF YOU WEREN'T GOING TO DELAY IT, I HAD A PITCH. I AM PERFECTLY -- I DON'T HAVE TO PITCH IT NOW, I WOULD BE HAPPY

TO WAIT. >> YOU CAN REFINE YOUR PITCH FOR A LITTLE LATER.

>> THAT WILL WORK FOR ME. THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THESE THREE ITEMS? SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PERIOD. 27, 28, 29 . A

REQUEST TO CONTINUE. WE CAN DO ALL THREE AT ONCE . >> I JUST NEED THE DATE FOR THE

SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY . >> I THINK BECAUSE OF THE TIME HE WAS REQUESTING THE END OF JANUARY, OR FEBRUARY, I THINK WE SHOULD REQUIRE THEM TO RE-ADVERTISE . LET'S JUST DO A MOTION TO CONTINUE AND WE CAN REEMPHASIZE IT FOR WHATEVER THEY DECIDE TO COME BACK.

>> THEN, THAT IS MY MOTION , CHAIR. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE, PREDICATED ON WHEN THEY COME BACK AND REQUEST AND WE WILL RE-ADVERTISE AND PUT IT

ON THE AGENDA AT THE TIME. >> I SECOND . MAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER COMMENTS,

[30.  Final Public Hearing to consider ZON 24-0017, LDC Text Change for Rock Crushing; Rock or Sand Storage Yards; and Stone Cutting. (M. Brown)]

>> MR. CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD, I AM 30. THIS IS THE ADOPTION HEARING TO A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGE . THE APPLICANT IS CRYSTAL BOWIE, RIVERSTONE CONSTRUCTION . THE REQUEST IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE REQUIRED STANDARDS FOR THE ROCK CRUSHING, ROCK OR SAND ORANGE , AND STONE CUTTING CONDITIONAL USE AND THE CODE TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR CENTRAL WATERING, CENTRAL SEWER MUST BE AVAILABLE . REALLY QUICKLY, THERE IS TWO MAIN AREAS , WHERE THE ROCK CRUSHING AND STONE CUTTING CONDITIONAL USE IS CONDITIONAL USE ONLY AND HEAVY ZONING DISTRICT. THERE ARE TWO CONCENTRATED AREAS IN THE COUNTY, ONE IS A LONG 17 SOUTH OF GREEN COVE, THE OTHER IS IN THE NORTHWEST PORTION OF THE COUNTY, ALONG 301 , BETWEEN COUNTY ROAD 218 , AND THE COUNTY LINE . THERE IS LIMITED CENTRAL UTILITIES TO BOTH OF THESE SITES , ALTHOUGH SOUTH OF GREEN COVE IS BECOMING A LITTLE BETTER WITH SOME EXTENSION OF UTILITIES FROM THE CITY OF GREEN COVE , AND SOME OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT SEE CQ A CCUA IS DOING IN THE AREA. IT IS STILL STILL SOMEWHAT LIMITED IN THE 301 AREA, THERE IS NO CENTRAL UTILITIES. THIS LIMITS THE ABILITY FOR ANY USES THAT REQUIRE CENTRAL UTILITIES IN THOSE AREAS. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING , AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE , TO DROP THE CENTRAL WATER AND SEWER REQUIREMENT FOR THIS CONDITIONAL USE. PLANNING

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THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WE HAVE HEARD THIS . >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON

THIS ITEM ? >> NO PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED HERE.

>> IT IS PUBLIC HEARING. >> IT IS ADOPTION. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS, SO I WILL OPEN PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ZONING CHANGE, LAND DEVELOPMENT CHANGE , SEEING

NONE, HEARING NONE, CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING . >> MAY WE HAVE APPROVAL .

>> MOTION, SECOND COMING OF THE COMMENTS, CONCERNS ISSUE , NONE INVASIVE, NONCRITICAL TYPE

THING. >> THIS IS THE AREA YOU ACTUALLY WANT THIS WORK TO GO ON IN. IT IS NOT LIKELY TO EVER HAVE CONTROL WATER AND SEWER .

>> MOTION INCLUDED THE RECOMMENDATION BY PLANNING AND ZONING.

>> IF WATER AND BECOME AVAILABLE , THEY MUST CONNECT. A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL IN

[CONSENT AGENDA]

AGENDA . >> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS ? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, AYE.

[18.  FCC Status Update]

>> GOOD EVENING, HEATHER VOUCHER, COMMISSION AUDITOR . I HAVE A BRIEF UPDATE FOR YOU GUYS TODAY. I AM WRAPPING UP MY FIELDWORK, MY TESTING. I HAVE ABOUT THREE TEST LEFT . THEY ARE ALL RELATED TO EQUIPMENT. ONCE THE LAST PIECES OF EQUIPMENT , I WILL BE ABLE TO WRAP UP THAT TESTING. I PLAN ON HAVING A FINAL REPORT NOVEMBER . THAT IS ALL I HAD TO UPDATE

TODAY. >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> PERFECT, THANK YOU.

>>> GOOD AFTERNOON, OR GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR AND FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS DOUG, WITH FCC, I AM THE OPERATIONS PERFORMANCE MANAGER. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO YOU ALL BEFORE AND WOULD LIKE TO JUST GIVE A LITTLE OF AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE ON A FEW ITEMS. THERE IT GOES. SO, JUST , I KNOW WE HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT MRS. AND SUCCESS RATES . I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF ESTABLISH WHERE WE ARE AT IN TERMS OF MISSES , AND THE TRASH SERVICE.

YOU CAN SEE AT THE START OF THE CONTRACT WE TEND TO HAVE A BIT OF A WRAP-UP, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE TRANSITION, IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, ESPECIALLY ONES LIKE CLAY COUNTY, AND CALL IT AN EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT TO THE RESIDENCE ON HOW TO PROPERLY SET OUT THESE ITEMS AND UTILIZE THE NEW SERVICE AND WHAT THE NEW SERVICES ARE. AS THE CHART KIND OF SHOWS, WE ARE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WE HAVE DIALED IN THE ROUTES . I HAVE DEMETRIUS HERE, OUR GM FROM THE CLAY COUNTY SITE. WE HAVE REALLY DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF GETTING THE ROUTES IN ORDER, SO THAT WE ARE COMPLETING ON A DAILY BASIS. DON'T SEE TOO MANY , OTHER THAN THE ONE OFF THAT YOU TYPICALLY SEE IN THE TRASH INDUSTRY.

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AS FAR AS BILLING GOES WHEN IT COMES TO THAT, OBVIOUSLY, THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF IT IS THE CONCERN OF RESIDENCE. THE WAY THE BUILDING WORKS, IT IS BILLED ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.

WITH A SIGN UP, YOU HAVE TO PAY THE LEASE FEE, THE $65 OR $56 TO LEASE THE CART. FROM THERE, SEC WILL CONTACT BY EMAIL AND PHONE FCC TO THE RESIDENT TO SET UP THE BILLING ARRANGEMENTS FOR HOW THAT WILL WORK. THE MAJORITY, OBVIOUSLY, IT WILL BE ONLINE . THE VAST MAJORITY WILL BE THROUGH OUR ONLINE PORTAL , AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE INVOICE, GET NOTIFIED BY EMAIL, AND THEN PAY. RESIDENTS WILL BE INVOICED ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, THAT FIRST INVOICE, THOUGH, WILL INCLUDE THE MONTH OF DECEMBER. THE FIRST INVOICE IS FOR 4 MONTHS. WE ARE GIVING A GRACE PERIOD OF NOVEMBER, BECAUSE NATURALLY WITH DELIVERIES BEGINNING NOVEMBER 1ST, WE WILL START SERVICING RIGHT AWAY. LIKE I SAID, THE INVOICE IS FOR DECEMBER AND THE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR . THE LAST ONE, I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A SLIGHT FOR THIS . I ANTICIPATED GETTING A QUESTION ABOUT THIS . I WANTED TO ADDRESS IT RIGHT AWAY. THAT IS THE PHONES . I KNOW MANY OF YOU ALL RIGHT HERE, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT . I KNOW YOU ARE HEARING FROM RESIDENTS, CALLBACKS, VOICEMAILS, LOAN CALL TIMES , THOSE SORTS OF THINGS . WE HAVE HEARD IT TOO. TRUST ME WHEN I SAY, I'VE HAD TO CONVERSATION WITH ADMIN'S , WHO ARE DEALING WITH THIS. THE CALL VOLUME IS A LITTLE HIGHER THAN EXPECTED. I THINK THERE IS A NUMBER OF FACTORS TO THAT. ONE OF THE BIG ONES IS THE CART RELATED QUESTIONS. HEY, MY GARBAGE WASN'T PICKED UP, AND THEN THERE IS AN EDUCATIONAL CONVERSATION, WHICH LEADS TO LONGER HANDLE TIME. THE ASPECT OF, I DID NOT GET A CARD, WHERE'S MY CAR, THOSE KINDS OF QUESTIONS ARE COMING IN. AS WE PROGRESS IN THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER, THE SMALLER SWAPS ARE COMPLETED . THE CALL VOLUME WILL COME DOWN A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT FROM THAT AND OBVIOUSLY, DURING THAT TIME, WE WILL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE ON OUR ROUTE AND NOT HAVE SERVICE COMPLAINTS FROM A MISSED PICK UP STANDPOINT OR ANY NUMBER OF THINGS . THE PLAN GOING FORWARD IS TO CONTRACT WITH A CALL CENTER. RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE FIVE CALL TAKERS AT THE SITE. THE NUMBER GOES UP TO EIGHT AND WILL FLUCTUATE, BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME TEMP SERVICES WHERE WE HAVE CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVES COME IN. SOMETIMES THEY ARE ALL THERE, SOMETIMES THEY ARE NOT . WE HAVE A BIT OF A SPACE ISSUE FOR OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE REPS. THAT IS WHY WE ARE GOING THE CALL SERVICE OPTION. MYSELF, PERSONALLY, I SPOKE WITH TWO DIFFERENT VENDORS AND HONESTLY I AM WAITING FOR MY START DATE . WHOEVER CAN START FIRST WILL BE THE ONE THAT GETS IT FROM US. AS FAR AS A LEARNING CURVE, I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE ONE . IT IS JUST TAKING THE CUSTOMER COMPLAINTS AND A FEW DIFFERENT REQUESTS THAT COME IN FOR THINGS LIKE THAT. SMALL LEARNING CURVE TO GET THE CALL CENTER UP TO SPEED. DON'T ANTICIPATE IT BEING ANYTHING MONUMENTAL AS FAR AS TIMELINE. AS FAR AS A DATE, I CAN'T GIVE IT TO YOU, BUT JUST KNOW, THE CALL CENTER WILL COME AND THAT WILL ALLEVIATE THE ISSUE 100% .

WITH THAT , THAT IS REALLY THE UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE AT . I THINK THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I MISSED, NOW IT IS TIME FOR QUESTIONS. FEEL DAMAGED CART . WE ARE

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GETTING CALLS, WHAT ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO DO? >> IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF DAMAGE. IF IT IS SOMETHING LIKE A WHEEL THAT IS REPLACEABLE , WE PUT IN A REPAIR TICKET.

CUSTOMERS WILL ASK QUESTIONS AND DETERMINE IF IT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETELY REPLACED, OR AS SIMPLE AS BRINGING ANOTHER WHEEL OUT TO PREPARE THE CART. AS FAR AS THE CART DELIVERIES , SWAPS, THINGS LIKE THAT, FCC DOES NOT HANDLE ANY OF THAT TO THIS POINT. WE HAVE BEEN HANDED OVER FROM THE COUNTY TO START MANAGING ALL OF THE CART DELIVERIES, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE EXTRA CART AND THE SWAP FOR THE SMALLER CART THAT IS BEING HANDLED BY THE VENDOR .

AS FAR AS WHAT TO DO IN THAT CASE, AGAIN , JUST CALL IT IN AND PUT IN THE TICKET FOR A REPLACEMENT , WHICH AGAIN, WE HAVE STARTED THE REPLACEMENT TODAY, ACTUALLY.

>> AGAIN , THAT WILL BE BETTER BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE A CALL CENTER, BECAUSE IT HAS NOT BEEN

GOOD. >> TO ADDRESS ONE OTHER PART OF THAT , WE HAVE EXPLORED THROUGH THE MEETINGS WE HAVE, EVERYONE KNOWS, IF THEY DON'T KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH STAFF DAILY SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE CONTRACT, THE WEEK BEFORE THE CONTRACT, OR ANY OF THEM ARE HERE TODAY. APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP AND HONESTLY, THE MEETINGS ARE VERY PRODUCTIVE WITH STAFF. I AM BLANKING ON WHERE I AM GOING WITH THAT. NONETHELESS, WE WILL SEE IN THE FUTURE WITH THE CALL CENTER, AND THE OPTION WE ARE ASKED DURING IS THE FORUM FORM TO FILL OUT ON THE WEBSITE. CUSTOMER SERVICE PROGRAM THAT WE USE HAS AN ONLINE COMPONENT AVAILABLE. WE HAVE NOT USED IT WITH ANY DEGREE , WE ARE TESTING IT NOW TO SEE IF IT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD OFFER TO OUR RESIDENTS, AND A BLESSING FROM STAFF WILL HELP ALLEVIATE

THE CALL VOLUME. >> AND THE CHRONIC MISSES, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE CERTAIN POCKETS COME IT MUST BE WEIRD PLACES TO GET TO OR , I DON'T KNOW.

>> CLAY COUNTY IS A VERY UNIQUE LANDSCAPE, TO SAY THE LEAST . I THINK THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF RURAL AREAS AND HARD-TO-REACH AREAS. OBVIOUSLY, THAT IS NOT AN EXCUSE, BUT PROBABLY WHY IT HAS HAPPENED SO FAR. WE CHANGED THE INTERNAL PROCESS AND ADDED A SERVICE TICKET TYPE CATEGORY AND TRACK OUR SERVICE FOR THE CHRONIC COMPLAINTS. WHEN THE CALL TAKERS ACTUALLY TAKE THE CALL, THEY WILL LOOK AT THE ADDRESS TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY PREVIOUS TICKETS, AND ESSENTIALLY, IF THERE HAVE BEEN THREE MISSES OR MORE IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS, WE WILL PUT IN A CHRONIC COMPLAINT TICKET AND THAT WILL GO BEYOND THE ROUTING FOR THE DRIVER FOR THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR SERVICE DATES SO THEY WILL HAVE A NOTE TO SAY, HEY, IT IS A REMINDER SERVICE AREA. I THINK THERE ARE SOME ONE OFFS THAT HAPPEN MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, BUT THERE ARE A FEW AREAS I THINK THAT ARE CONCERNING. ON TOP OF THAT, I KNOW DEMETRIUS AND THE LOCAL TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING WITH OUR ROUTING TEAM TO IDENTIFY ANY ISSUES. EASE OF ACCESS GETTING INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD, SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS HAVING TO CROSS A MAIN ROAD CAN CAUSE A ISSUE FOR THE DRIVER, SO THAT CAN BE AN ISSUE IN THAT CASE. I KNOW THAT IS A LONG ANSWER, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION.

>> WHEN YOU HAVE A MISSED PICK UP, WHAT I HAVE BEEN HEARING IS MY FOLKS SAY, THEIR PICKUP IS FRIDAY, THEY DON'T COME UNTIL TUESDAY WITH A LOT MORE GARBAGE. ARE YOU DOING

SOMETHING TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT? >> GET ADDITIONAL TRASH? TYPICALLY, WE COACH THE DRIVERS ON A CUSTOMER SERVICE BASIS. IF IT IS A MISSED PICK UP, AND DEMETRIUS CAN SPEAK TO THIS ON A LOCAL LEVEL, WHEN THERE ARE CASES THAT HAVE SAID, WE

SERVICE ONES OUT THERE, THAT IS WHAT THE DRIVER IS INSTRUCTED. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> I WANT TO STOP YOU RIGHT HERE. EXPLAIN YOUR PROCESS. I CALL, YOU MISSED MY PICKUP WHAT

IS YOUR PROCESS? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVENING, EVERYBODY. SO, TYPICALLY , WHAT WE DO , A RESIDENT WILL CALL IN AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT GOT MISSED , WE WILL PUT THAT IN TRACKING AND THE FOLLOWING DAY, WE WILL GO IN, GENERATE AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET , AND ROUTE

THOSE PARTICULAR STOPS FOR THE NEXT DAY TO BE PICKED UP. >> YOU ARE SAYING , YOU GO BACK

WITHIN 24 HOURS OR SO, YOU PICK UP THE MISSED ? >> YES.

>> SO, IF IT IS REPORTED, THERE SHOULD BE THREE IN A ROW, RIGHT?

>> THROUGH PATRICIAN , I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS WHY IT MAY GET MISSED .

WE HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE IT MAKE IT STUCK AND WE ARE STUCK LATE INTO THE EVENING , AND A

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DAY. >> WHAT KIND OF EQUIPMENT DO YOU USE TO GO BACK AND PICK IT

UP WITH? IT IS ONE HOUSE IN A DEVELOPMENT OF 80? >> WE RUN A MISSED TRUCK , SPECIFICALLY FOR MISSES. IT IS ONE OF FOUR SMALLER TRUCKS, JUST IN CASE IT IS IN KEYSTONE, OR AN AREA INACCESSIBLE BY A BIG TRUCK, WE SEND A SMALL TRUCK.

>> OKAY. >> I THINK THE ANSWERS ARE CONTINGENT UPON THE COMPLAINT ACTUALLY REACHING FCC . I THINK THAT IS THE ISSUE I HAVE . IT IS GREAT IF YOU CAN SERVICE THAT MISSED PICK UP WITHIN 24 HOURS, BUT IF YOU DON'T KNOW IT CAME IN BECAUSE YOU DID NOT ANSWER THE CALL, BECAUSE THEY WAITED THREE MINUTES AND THEN HUNG UP, OR THEY LEFT A VOICEMAIL THAT WAS NEVER RETURNED, AND YOU CAN'T GET THERE WITHIN 24 HOURS, THAT IS THE COMPLAINT THAT FRANKLY, I AM TIRED OF GETTING. PRIMARILY BECAUSE , LAST TIME YOU PRESENTED , WE WERE ASSURED THAT THIS WAS JUST A TRAINING ISSUE AND I GOT AN INFLUX OF PHONE CALLS FROM MY DISTRICT LAST WEEK. SO, THERE IS AN INCONSISTENCY THERE THAT I

WOULD LIKE ADDRESSED . >> I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS . WHEN IT COMES TO THE FRUSTRATION OF THE RESIDENCE, I THINK I SPEAK ON THE HALF OF OUR ADMIN STAFF, THEY ARE TIRED OF THAT TOO, TO BE HONEST. BY THE TIME THEY ARE TALKING TO A RESIDENT, THEY ARE PRETTY UPSET THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO REACH FCC. I THINK IT IS MORE OF -- NOT JUST A TRAINING ISSUE, IT IS MORE DYNAMIC THAN THAT. I THINK THE CALL VOLUME IS HIGHER THAN EXPECTED, AGAIN, MOSTLY DUE TO THE STORM, A LOT OF DEBRIS QUESTIONS, A LOT OF CONFUSION ON RESIDENTS' BEHALF ON WHAT IS TO BE PICKED UP, WHAT IS NOT TO BE PICKED UP. HE DROVE BY MY HOUSE, YOU ONLY PICKED UP THE CAN, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. THERE IS THAT, ALSO THE CONTAINERS WE TALKED ABOUT TOO. NOT TO GET TOO LONG-WINDED, BUT THE CALL CENTER WILL ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THIS. I THINK THAT YOUR POINT, THERE ARE SOME MRS. MAX MISSES OUT THERE THAT WE DON'T KNOW

WE HAVE MISSED. >> IS YOUR PROCESS CONCERNING CALLS INCLUDE A CALL BACK

SAYING, WE WILL BE OUT TOMORROW? >> IN SOME CASES, YES. IF THERE IS A VOICEMAIL, YES . THE PROCESS IS TO HAVE THEM CALL BACK. HAS THAT HAPPENED? NOT

EVERY CASE, IT SEEMS LIKE. >> BECAUSE THERE IS NO VOICEMAIL. I'M TALKING TO THE REP, IF THEY MISSED MY PICKUP, THE REP DOES NOT KNOW THEY WILL BE BACK TOMORROW MORNING, I

DON'T THINK ? >> YES, THEY DO. THE EXPECTATION IS TO HAVE 24

HOURS. >> WHAT ABOUT THE PERSON THAT MAKES THE PHONE CALL AND BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE FIVE STAFF MEMBERS IN YOUR CALL CENTER, THE PHONE RINGS FOR 2 MINUTES, THREE MINUTES, FOUR MINUTES, WE'VE HAD COMPLAINTS UP TO FIVE UNITS , WAITING FOR SOMEBODY TO TAKE THE CALL . IF THEY HANG UP, HOW THEN CAN YOU SERVICE THEM AND THEIR MISSED

PICK UP ? >> OBVIOUSLY, IF WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT, WE CAN'T. THAT IS WHY WE ARE ON THE CALL CENTER ROUTE TO ENSURE WE HAVE ADEQUATE CALL TAKERS TO KNOW

THE DEPTH OF THE ISSUE. >> REALLY, THE SOLUTION I WAS LOOKING FOR IS THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE A RANKING PROCESS THAT LASTS THAT LONG. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS REASONABLE TO HAVE EXPECTED ANYBODY TO HANG OUT ON THE PHONE THAT LONG IN THIS MICROWAVE SOCIETY THAT WE LIVE

IN. SO , I THINK THAT -- LET ME LEAVE IT AT THAT. >> TRUST ME, I HEAR THE FRUSTRATION . YOU DO GET TIRED OF THEM CALLING . I GET IT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE WHOLE TIME , CALL HANDLING TIME, WE WILL SEE THEM DROP CONSIDERABLY, ESPECIALLY BEHOLD TIME. AT A CALL CENTER, AGAIN, NOT TO KIND OF MAKE IT SO YOU DON'T PUT OUR FEET TO THE FIRE WITH IT, WE ARE TALKING EIGHT TO 10 CALL TAKERS ADDITIONALLY. WITH THE CALL VOLUME WE HAVE SEEN, WE ANTICIPATE THAT WILL LEAD TO, I THINK SOME DAYS, VIRTUALLY NO CALL WEIGHT VIRTUALLY, THE CALL TIME CAN FLUCTUATE. AGAIN, WITH THE ADDITIONAL CALL TIME AND HOLD

TIME WILL GO DOWN CONSIDERABLY. >> AT THE RISK OF SOUNDING OFFENSIVE, AND I APOLOGIZE TO

ANYONE THAT THIS OFFENSE, IS YOUR CALL CENTER IN THE U.S.? >> YES.

>> THANK YOU. >> ALSO, YOU HAVE SEEN ALL OF MY MISSED PICKUPS , STUFF LIKE

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I CONTINUE TO THINK WE MAY NEED TO REVISIT THAT, I UNDERSTAND YOU JUST PURCHASED A NEW RECYCLING COMPANY, SO THAT MAY BECOME AN OPTION FOR US, MORE FISCALLY REASONABLE. I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HEARING ABOUT THAT AT ANOTHER TIME. I KNOW THAT IS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, BECAUSE I DO NOT THAT IS AN AGENDA, ESPECIALLY CARDBOARD BOXES AND THINGS LIKE THAT WILL TAKE UP A LOT OF ROOM IN THE CAN. I'VE HAD PEOPLE ASK ABOUT BOOK PICKUPS. AND I KNOW THEY HAVE TO CALL, BUT CAN THEY CALL AND GET A MATTRESS PICKED UP, BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM DON'T HAVE A WAY TO TAKE THAT TO ROSEMARY HILL, OR WHATEVER .

>> I ACTUALLY STEPPED ON IN THE HALLWAY FOR A MOMENT TO TALK TO RESIDENTS THAT HAD PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT. I DO THINK COMING FROM THEM, IT IS MORE OF AN EDUCATION ISSUE. BASICALLY SAYING, I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE A BOOK PICK UP AVAILABLE. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT IS THE CASE. IN THE CONTEXT, IT IS ONE BULK PER MONTH, UP TO -- I DON'T KNOW THE CONTRACT, I BELIEVE IT IS UP TO TWO CUBIC YARDS, THINK THREE WASHING MACHINES NEXT TO EACH OTHER, A MATTRESS FALLS RIGHT INTO THAT CATEGORY. AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE CALL ISSUE, OBVIOUSLY, IT TAKES A CALL TO SCHEDULE THE BULK . AS LONG AS THAT CALL IS ANSWERED, WE WILL BE ABLE TO

PICK UP THE BULK. >> IN THE SAME LIGHT, IF IT IS THE THREE WASHING MACHINES, THE ONES THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, A RENTER MOVES OUT, A PERSON PUTS ALL OF THAT THERE, THEY CAN GET

THE BULK PICKUP, OR IS IT ONE ITEM? >> IF WE GET CAUGHT OUT TO A PILE , WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME. MOVE OUT PILES, EVICTION PILES, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM.

WE WILL PICK THE THREE CUBIC YARDS. >> SO I THINK THAT IS HELPFUL FOR OUR RESIDENTS. THE OTHER QUESTION I GOT WAS ON THE FLYER THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THEIR CANE, IT TALKS ABOUT THE LOOSE STICKS AND THINGS CUT TO THREE FEET IN LENGTH, OR WHATEVER .

WE KNOW WE HAVE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY YOUR YARD WASTE TRUCK HAS DRIVEN RIGHT BY PILES THAT ARE OF THAT SIZE . I KNOW THAT WHEN THE COUNTY MANAGER AND I TALKED ABOUT IT , IT WAS BECAUSE WE HAD THE STORM CONTRACTOR , BUT IS THAT GOING TO BE AN ONGOING THING?

>> SO, TWO FOLD ANSWER . IN THAT CASE, WE HAVE INSTRUCTED DRIVERS TO USE COMMON SENSE.

OBVIOUSLY, IF IT IS IN A LOOSE CONTAINER, PICK IT UP. CAN WE FOLLOW BEHIND EVERY TRUCK? NO, IT IS A JUDGMENT THING. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SPIES GOING BACK TO NORMAL ESSENTIALLY, WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE COUNTY, ESSENTIALLY SAT IN WITH PARKING DEVRY MEETING A FEW WEEKS AGO TO DISCUSS THE PLAN FOR THE COUNTY . ESSENTIALLY, THEY ARE CLEARING AREAS AND WORKING WITH STAFF. THEY WILL START IDENTIFYING, I DO BELIEVE THEY HAVE. PERFECT. WE HAVE STARTED TO CLEAR AREAS , ESSENTIALLY. ONCE WE KNOW THE STORM DEBRIS CONTRACTOR IS DONE SERVICING THAT AREA, IT IS GREENLIGHT, LET'S TURN ON A NORMAL SERVICE

AGAIN AND GREENLIGHT LIKE WE NORMALLY WOULD. >> AND THEN, YOU'RE VERY SERIOUS ACCIDENT THAT OCCURRED OVER THE WEEKEND IN MY DISTRICT ON COUNTY ROAD 218, IS NO

DRIVER OKAY? >> THE DRIVER IS FINE. I THINK HE WAS A LITTLE MORE SHAKEN UP, MENTALLY. I TOOK HIM -- WE TOOK HIM TO THE CLINIC JUST FOR PRECAUTIONARY PURPOSES, BUT HE IS BACK AT WORK. THE OTHER GENTLEMEN, I HAVEN'T HEARD MUCH . I SPOKE WITH ONE OF THE DEPUTIES ON SCENE ON SATURDAY, BECAUSE I WAS OUT THERE AS WELL, AND HE WAS A LITTLE MORE

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INJURED BUT I DON'T KNOW TO WHAT EXTENT . >> AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IT WAS NOT THE FCC DRIVER'S FAULT, I WOULD LIKE THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT. BEFORE WE KNEW THAT, THERE WAS A LOT OF NEGATIVE PRESS. SO, FCC -- AND I ALSO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT-- FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT, YOU HAVE TERMINATED DRIVERS FOR DRIVING INFRACTIONS, AND YOU DO WATCH THOSE THINGS, THEIR DRIVING IS ON CAMERA.

>> YES, MA'AM . >> BECAUSE I HAD SOMEWHAT ALLEGED TO ME THAT ONE OF YOUR TRUCKS HAD GONE PAST THE STOPPED SCHOOL BUS, SO THEN I ASKED IF THEY COULD GIVE ME MORE INFORMATION SO THAT Y'ALL COULD GO AND LOOK IT UP, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE WHOLE CAMERA SYSTEM AND ALL OF THAT . AND I DID NOT GET THE INFORMATION BACK.

>> TYPICALLY IN THOSE SITUATIONS-- NOT TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER THAT. THE CAMERA SYSTEM HAS AN A.I. FUNCTION. NOT ONLY WILL IT READ SPEED, BUT WHEN THINGS HAPPEN LIKE THAT, RUNNING A STOP SIGN, IT DOES TRIGGER AN EVENT AND SEND TO US. I DON'T KNOW IN THIS CASE IF IT GOT TO THAT, BUT IT WILL TELL US AUTOMATICALLY.

>> I GUESS THE ONLY OTHER THING, IF YOU COULD WATCH THOSE ROUTES . THE REPEATS, THE CHRONIC MISSED , I GOT ANOTHER ONE TONIGHT THAT I SENT TO Y'ALL , AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS A WHOLE ROAD . THAT IS A LITTLE OF AN EDUCATION WITH YOUR DRIVERS TOO. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WILL HAVE A PRIVATE DIRT ROAD THAT ONE OF YOUR BIG TRUCKS CANNOT GET DOWN, RIGHT NEXT TO COUNTY , PAVED MAINTAINED ROADS . I GUESS, DO YOU FLAG THAT DIFFERENTLY? THAT IS WHAT THIS ONE SOUNDS LIKE . SHE IS ANGRY ENOUGH NOW THAT SHE IS ASKING IF THEY CAN OPT OUT, WHICH, UNFORTUNATELY FOR ANYONE WATCHING ME THERE IS NOT A WAY TO OPT OUT. THIS HAS BEEN AN ORDINANCE SINCE 2007 , SO NOT THIS BCC THAT PUT THIS IN PLACE, THERE IS NO OPT OUT.

OBVIOUSLY, SHE IS ANGRY BECAUSE SHE HAS HAD THREE WEEKS OF MISSED, AND SHE IS SAYING, THE TRUCK BACKED DOWN OUR ROAD. THE ARM IS ON THE WRONG SIDE , BUT HE SAID, HE CAN'T DRIVE ON THAT SIDE, IT IS SOFT SAND, HE CAN'T. AND SO I THINK THAT IS WHERE PEOPLE GET FRUSTRATED WHEN NOW THEIR STUFF IS PILING UP , AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE EXTRA CANE.

>> ONCE WE GET THOSE PARTICULAR SITUATIONS IDENTIFIED , WE MOVED THEM TO THE APPROPRIATE

VEHICLE THAT NEEDS TO PICK IT UP. >> AND THEN, DO YOU COMMUNICATE BACK TO CHARLIE AND MILTON 'S GROUP ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF -- I THINK IT WOULD BE, MAYBE NOT TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, BUT I THINK IT MAY BE TO YOU, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR YOU IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY. IT WOULD BE VALUABLE TO ME, ARE YOU SEEING LARGE AMOUNTS, HOW MUCH DOES THE LID HAVE TO BE COMPLETELY CLOSED, OR CAN IT BE STICKING UP? THESE ARE THINGS, THEY ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT I ASSUME YOU ARE HAVNG , I AM HAVING ON A DAILY BASIS .

>> ON MY ROAD, I SEE THE PICKUP, EVEN IF THERE IS A GOOD AMOUNT OF OPEN--

>> I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED BY THAT, THAT IS NOT WHAT WE DO. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PRETTY

EGREGIOUS FOR US NOT TO PICK UP WHAT IS IN THE CAN. >> THREE FEET, TO WHERE WHEN A

DRIVER PICKS IT UP, STUFF FALLS OUT THE CAN. >> AND IF IT IS A REOCCURRING THING, OBVIOUSLY, WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THAT RESIDENCE.

>> WE ARE HAVING PROBLEMS PICKING YOUR VOICE UP HERE >> I WAS SAYING, IN THAT CASE, IF WE SEE THE SAME RESIDENT OVER AND OVER AGAIN, LOADING THEIR CANNED, THE DRIVER WILL TAKE NOTE OF IT . THAT IS AN EDUCATIONAL THING WHERE WE MAY NEED TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT

EXTRA BAG TAGS, OR EXTRA CART, WE WILL CALL IT. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS ?

>> ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DID SOMETHING WRONG, THEY HAD TO MAKE MUCH OUT, THEY WERE GIVEN ONE OF THOSE FORMS THAT SUPPOSEDLY CHECK OFF WITH THEY DID WRONG . IT WAS IN THEIR MAILBOX . THE RESIDENT WAS PRETTY UPSET ABOUT THAT, CONSIDERING THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO LEAVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN U.S. MAIL IN THE MAILBOX, AND THE SECOND THING, THERE WAS NO CHECK OFF. THEY HAD NO IDEA HOW THEY WERE VIOLATING WHATEVER THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE VIOLATING, BECAUSE IT WASN'T THERE. ARE THEY TRAINED TO PUT THAT WITH THE CART , OR BRING IT TO THE FRONT DOOR? WHERE ARE THEY

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SUPPOSED TO PUT THAT? >> RIGHT AWAY, NO, DEFINITELY NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE MAILBOX . THAT IS A DRIVER KIND OF TAKING THE INITIATIVE . TRYING TO MAKE SURE--

>> I APPLAUD THE FACT THAT HE WAS TRYING TO NOTIFY, COMMUNICATE WITH THE CUSTOMER,

JUST DID NOT GO 100% ROUTE . >> I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THE PARTICULARS OF THAT, DEMETRIUS AS WELL THAT WE CAN APPROACH THE DRIVER AND TALK TO HIM ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE .

>> ATTACHED TO THE ITEM ITSELF THAT WAS LEFT. >> I CANNOT TELL YOU WHAT WAS LEFT, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE THE CART WAS LEFT AND THE NOTE WAS LEFT. I CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT LOCATION IT WAS . WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CALL CENTERS, THIS IS 2024. IS THERE ANYWAY WE CAN INCORPORATE EMAIL SO SOMEONE AT HOME CONTINUE AN EMAIL? SOMEONE CAN ANSWER IT REALLY CLICK AND PUT IT IN PROCESS ? IT SEEMS TO ME THAT MAY ALSO HELP WITH YOUR CALL

VOLUME . >> I AGREE. WE WERE EXPLORING THOSE DIFFERENT ELECTRONIC OPTIONS. I THINK THE PRESS WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT WAS THE FORM, WHICH ESSENTIALLY IS GOING TO FUNCTION SIMILARLY TO HOW AN EMAIL WOULD. ALLOWS FOR A LITTLE MORE CONTROL TO

VALIDATE THE ADDRESSES AND COMPLAINTS . >> I WASN'T FAMILIAR WITH THAT

. >> I THINK WE WANT TO SEE HOW THIS FORM DOES BEFORE WE MOVE

FORWARD. >> THAT'S FINE. I WAS NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE FORM YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD REVOLVES AROUND MAKING SURE THE DRIVERS ARE COMMUNICATED WITH. IS THERE A WAY YOU TELL EVERYBODY AN EXAMPLE AS WE ARE PICKING UP STORM DEBRIS AND THEY ARE CLEAR TO START PICKING UP WITH THEY USUALLY WOULD PICK UP WITH THE YARD WASTE ? HOW DO YOU TELL YOUR DRIVERS? IS THERE ONE PLACE THEY ALL WOULD LOOK TO

SEE WHAT THE COMMUNICATION IS, OR HOW IS THAT PROCESS? >> I WILL KIND OF LET DEMETRIUS SPEAK TO IT A LITTLE MORE. OUR CREW OUT PROCESS IN THE MORNING, ALL EMPLOYEES CLOCK IN AT THE SAME TIME. IT IS LARGE GROUPS AND DEMETRIUS CAN FILL YOU IN A LITTLE BIT. IT IS

MORNING MEETINGS . >> SO, TYPICALLY , WE HAVE TWO LAUNCHES IN THE MORNING, ONE FOR THE GARBAGE GUYS , ONE FOR THE YARD WASTE GUYS. GARBAGE GUYS ARE AT 5:00, YARD WASTE STARTS AT 5:30. IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE CLOCK IN, WE HAVE A MORNING HUDDLE MEETING , STAND UP, STAND DOWN, DEPENDING ON WHAT PART OF THE COUNTRY YOU ARE IN. AND WE DISSEMINATE THAT INFORMATION . ONE OF THOSE THINGS THIS WEEK WAS STORM DEBRIS. WE WENT BACK TO THE PRESCRIBED THREE YARDS , AS PER THE CONTRACT . WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT SINCE MONDAY.

>> GREAT. THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE IS TO THE CHRONIC MISSES, AN UNUSUAL LOCATION. THEY PICKED IT UP THE FIRST DAY AND HAVE MISSED IT EVER SINCE, ONLY THROUGH THE FACT THAT THEY CAN'T GET TO YOU GUYS, THEY CALL ME AND I LET MILTON KNOW, AND HE LET SOMEONE ELSE KNOW, NOT THE MOST EFFICIENT COMMUNICATION, CERTAINLY, MY CONCERN IS THE DRIVER GETTING THAT COMMUNICATION. HOW DO YOU GET IT THE FIRST TIME, UNLESS YOU CHANGE DRIVERS ON THAT ROUTE, MAYBE THAT IS WHY. THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THAT BECOMES VERY FRUSTRATING FOR THE RESIDENT, AND QUITE HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COMMUNICATE THAT ONE OFF WITH THE DRIVER TO

MAKE SURE THEY DON'T MISS THAT PARTICULAR PEERS >> WE ACTUALLY DO IT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE RUN A MISSED TRUCK. ANYTIME YOU DO A STARTUP, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE MRS. . YOU DO NOT WANT TO TYPICALLY SEND THAT DRIVER BACK BECAUSE OF HOURS. AS WE GET MORE ON ROUTES, AS THE GUYS GET FAMILIAR WITH AREAS , THEN WE WILL START SENDING THE DRIVERS BACK. SO, THEY GET FAMILIAR AND NOT MISS THOSE STOPS.

>> THERE IS A WAY YOU ARE ABLE TO TELL THEM, THIS IS A TROUBLE SPOT , YOU SHOULD TAKE A LOOK

AT THAT. >> AND A LOT OF TIMES, THEY WILL IDENTIFY THEM. WE HAVE HAD A TRUCK HAVE A PRETTY SERIOUS ACCIDENT TURNING OVER . EVERY BODY WAS GIVEN VERY EXPLICIT INSTRUCTIONS . IF IT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT FOR ONE OF THESE BIG TRUCKS TO DOWN, DON'T DO IT.

CALL US. NEITHER MYSELF, MY OPERATIONS MANAGER, ONE OF THE SUPERVISORS WILL GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT, DEEM IF WE NEED TO GO DOWN, OR HOW WE ARE GOING TO GO DOWN, WHETHER IT BE A DIRT ROAD, A ROAD THAT YOU GO DOWN AND THERE IS NO TURNAROUND . A LOT OF TIMES, YOU CAN'T

SEE THESE THINGS FIRST, SECOND, THIRD TIME ON THE ROUTE. >> AND THEN WE HAVE RADIOS. WE

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>> OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER . EVERYBODY ELSE HAS ASKED THINGS THAT I WANTED TO

HEAR. >> I HAVE ONE COMMENT. FOR EVERY PHONE CALL I GET, I ASSUME YOU GET 10. THAT IS NOT A GOOD THING. WE ARE NOT THERE YET . WE NEED TO KEEP WORKING ON THIS, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET ANY PHONE CALLS. I KNOW THERE IS START UP, NEW DRIVERS, CHANGE OF DRIVERS , I KNOW THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. WE ARE GETTING WAY TOO MANY PHONE CALLS AT MY LEVEL, AND THAT MEANS, THEY CAN'T GET A HOLD OF YOU GUYS. THEY ARE NOT GETTING SERVED PROPERLY AT YOUR LEVEL . LET ME JUST SAY, YOU ARE NOT THERE YET. WE SPOKE TO THIS ALL NIGHT LONG. I THINK WE ARE ON A GOOD PATH. I THINK THE PARTNERSHIP IS WORKING . I AM VERY HOPEFUL WE WILL GET THERE. WE ARE EARLY IN THE GAME TOO. WE ALL UNDERSTAND , BUT IT IS FRUSTRATING . IT IS REALLY FRUSTRATING FOR US. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ?

>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY. THIS KIND OF GOES HAND IN HAND. I ASKED TIM DEVON TO PREPARE A COUPLE OF SLIDES ON STORM DEBRIS, IF IT PLEASES THE BOARD AND THE CHAIRMAN, HE CAN DO THAT NOW, AND SINCE IT IS TOPIC, YOU CAN KIND OF SYNERGIZE . ONE THING THAT IT WILL POINT OUT THAT WAS SAID, WE ARE NOT CLEARING AREAS, WE ARE CLEARING ROUTES. THERE IS OVER 80 ROUTES , 83 ROUTES THAT ARE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTY . THAT IS KIND OF THE PROCESS . I AM KIND OF STEALING A LITTLE OF'S THUNDER , IF I MAY, WE CAN KIND OF GET THAT ALL LEVELED HERE.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNTY MANAGER . I APPRECIATE THAT PEERS

>> YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT, GUYS, IF YOU WANT. >> THEY MAKE END UP ADDING THINGS IN.

SO, TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, WE ARE STILL CURRENTLY UNDER TWO LOCAL STATES OF EMERGENCY, FOR HEALING, AND ONE FOR MILTON . THIS WAS NOT A TYPICAL STORM SEASON . THIS STORM SEASON AFFECTED SIX STATES , NOT JUST FLORIDA . IT WENT ACROSS THE CENTRAL PART OF FLORIDA. WE ARE NOT TALKING AN EVENT THAT JUST AFFECTED 15 OR 20 COUNTIES . WE ARE POSITIONING OURSELVES TO UTILIZE THE SAME RESOURCES THAT SIX STATES ARE FIGHTING FOR. IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN FOR CLAY COUNTY CATASTROPHIC, AND I KNOW A LOT OF CITIZENS MAY FEEL THAT WAY, BUT THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE IN THE CENTRAL PART OF FLORIDA THAT DO NOT HAVE POWER, THAT THEY ARE UTILIZING THE DEBRIS MANAGEMENT TRUCKS TO CLEAR WASTE, SO THAT THEY CAN GET POWER BACK TO THEIR RESIDENCE.

OUR RESIDENTS HAVE POWER. WE ARE STILL TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THOSE ISSUES, WE JUST NEED THEM TO UNDERSTAND, WE ARE LIMITED ON OUR RESOURCES, NOT BECAUSE OF THE CONTRACTS WE HAVE IN PLACE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS THAT IS OUT THERE WITHIN THE SIX STATES. I WANTED TO ADD ALSO THAT MYSELF AND HOWARD HAD BEEN RECEIVING A LOT OF EMAILS FROM OTHER COUNTIES, ASKING IF WE HAVE RESOURCES THAT WE CAN SEND TO THEM , BECAUSE THERE IS A NEED FOR THOSE RESOURCES . WHEN WE STARTED THE OPERATIONS THAT WE HAD , WE WERE ALLOCATED TWO TRUCKS, ONLY TWO TRUCKS. WHEN FCC IS RUNNING THEIR ROUTES FOR 75,000 CITIZENS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND THEY ARE RUNNING 83 ROUTES, RUNNING IT WITH ABOUT 36 TRUCKS A DAY, TIME FIVE

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THEY COULD EITHER UTILIZE WASTE MANAGEMENT, OR NOW FCC TO PUT OUT THEIR TRASH AT THE CURB TO BE PICKED UP, OR THEY COULD TAKE IT TO ONE OF OUR ECCS , OR TO ROSEMARY, OR IF IT WAS AN ACTUAL EVENT THAT WE QUALIFY FOR, WE COULD ENACT THE DEBRIS MANAGEMENT CONTRACT. I KNOW ON SOME OF OUR LESSONS LEARNED, AND I KNOW I TALKED ABOUT IT WITH SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS, WASTE MANAGEMENT PICKED UP FIVE YARDS, FCC ONLY PICKS UP THREE YARDS . WHEN WE ENACTED THE DEBRIS MANAGEMENT CONTRACT , THOSE ARE FEMA GUIDELINES . IT IS NOT LIKE WE SET THOSE GUIDELINES. WE AS A COUNTY DON'T HAVE FLEXIBILITY WHEN IT COMES TO THAT. THEY ARE ONLY PICKING UP THE BIG STUFF. YES, THE BIGGER TRUCKS WERE DRIVING BY PILES . THAT ONE DID NOT QUALIFY, THAT ONE DID NOT QUALIFY, THAT CITIZEN HAPPENED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE AND TRIM THEIR BUSHES, IT IS REALLY NOT STORM DEBRIS. THE DISASTER DEBRIS MANAGEMENT COMPANY WAS PASSING A LOT OF PILES. THE FIRST TWO WEEKS, WE AS A COUNTY DID SUSPEND FCC PICKING UP THE PILES. WE WANTED THEM TO CONCENTRATE ON THE CANS AND THE BAG DEBRIS, BECAUSE JUST THAT AMOUNT WAS MORE THAN WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE EXPECTED . IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE THAN WHAT WASTE MANAGEMENT WOULD HAVE EXPECTED . WE WANTED THEM TO CONCENTRATE ON PICKING UP THE CANS AND THE BAG , BECAUSE WE WERE NOT SET UP FOR THAT AND THE DEBRIS MANAGEMENT CONTRACT WAS NOT SET UP FOR THAT. THAT IS INITIALLY WHY THERE WAS A TWO WEEK LEFT WITH THAT. THE SECOND QUESTION I HAD A LOT ON WHEN WE SET UP THE DEBRIS MANAGEMENT SITE, IT TAKES TWO WEEKS TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS . WE ALREADY HAVE THE PLAN, AND WE ALREADY HAVE THE VENDORS , AND WE ALREADY HAVE THE CONTRACT, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO INTERACT THE PO AND GO THROUGH THAT QUICK PROCESS. WE HAVE TO SELECT THE SITE. LUCKILY FOR US, SLEEPY HOLLOW WAS A SITE ALREADY PRECERTIFIED, BUT EPA AND THE STATE STILL HAS TO COME OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING HAS CHANGED ON THAT SITE AND THEY STILL HAVE TO APPROVE IT , PROCESSES WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER. WE THEN HAVE TO MAKE A REQUEST TO USE THAT SITE THROUGH THE STATE AND THE STATE HAS TO APPROVE THAT SITE. WHEN THEY APPROVE IT, THEN THAT SITE OFFICIALLY GETS CERTIFIED. WHEN IT IS CERTIFIED, THEY ALLOCATE THE ASSETS. WE GOT ASSIGNED TWO TRUCKS. THEY HAVE TO SHOW UP AT THE EEOC, BECAUSE THOSE TRUCKS HAD TO BE CHECKED IN AND CERTIFIED. THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE EMPTY , MAKE SURE THEY ARE WEIGHTED. THEY HAVE TO WEIGH THE TRUCK, MEASURE THE TRUCK, TAKE PICTURES OF THE TRUCK. THERE IS A WHOLE PROCESS THAT FEMA HAS TO GET REIMBURSED FOR ANY OF THIS STORM DEBRIS. THEY WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS . WE THEN HAVE A MONITORING CONTRACT AS WELL . WE ENACTED THAT CONTRACT, THE MONITORS SHOWED UP . THEY HAD TO GO TO SLEEPY HOLLOW AND SET UP TOWERS, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE-- WHEN THE TRUCKS COME IN, THEY HAVE TO TAKE PICTURES AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS COPACETIC WITH THE DEBRIS THEY ARE BRINGING IN, THAT PROCESS TAKES TWO WEEKS , THERE IS A LOT OF MOVING PARTS FOR THAT.

THAT IS WHY WHEN WE ENACTED THAT, AND I APPLAUD THE COUNTY MANAGER FOR LETTING US PULL THAT TRIGGER. HONESTLY, WE WERE ON THE VERGE OF, DID WE REALLY QUALIFIED TO PULL THAT TRIGGER

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THIS COMING SATURDAY, WE WILL HAVE THREE. WE ARE TRYING TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX AND PULL IN OTHER RESOURCES WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE MOVING FORWARD ON THIS PROCESS. SO, SOME OF THE DIFFICULTIES WE HAD, AND WE SAW THIS WHEN IT CAME TO THE TRASH CONVERSION.

IT WAS SIX DIFFERENT POINTS OF INTAKE FOR REPORTING DEBRIS PILES IN THIS COUNTY. WE HAD THE COUNTY CALL CENTER THAT STOOD UP, THE 877 NUMBER WE UTILIZED FOR A DISASTER. FCC HAS THEIR CALL CENTER, BECAUSE THE CITIZENS ARE USED TO DEBRIS, THEY CALL THEIR TRASH VENDOR. THAT WAS A SECOND POINT. ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, WE KNEW FROM THE TRASH CONVERSION WE WERE TAKING 600 CALLS THROUGH THE COUNTY NUMBER, THEY WERE ALSO TAKING AND DEBRIS PILES. CRISIS TRACK ME ONE OF THE SOFTWARE PROGRAMS WE USE FOR SELF REPORTING FOR THE CITIZENS THAT IS STARTING TO ROLL OUT , WE WERE GETTING DAMAGE AND DEBRIS PILES THROUGH THERE. DEBRIS TECH, AS THEY WERE PASSING CERTAIN PILES, THEY WERE GATHERING THAT INFORMATION , AND THE ROUTE AS THE CREWS WERE GOING AROUND. WE HAD SIX DIFFERENT DATA SOURCES, SO WE PULLED THAT INTO ONE. AND I CAN SAY, SO FAR TODAY, OR YESTERDAY AT CLOSE OF BUSINESS AT 8:00, WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THE MOST ACCURATE DATA THAT EXISTED WITHIN THE COUNTY. THAT NUMBER IS SITTING RIGHT AROUND 400 FOR PILES THAT ARE OUT THERE. AND WE ARE CODIFYING THAT TODAY TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE HAD SIX DIFFERENT DATA POINTS. WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT DATA POINT NUMBER TWO IS NOT DUPLICATED ON THAT SPREADSHEET. IF YOU WERE TO ASK MY HONEST OPINION, BETWEEN200 AND 500 PILES THAT EXISTED IN CLAY COUNTY. WE CANNOT ACT ON THAT SOONER, LIKE I SAID, HELENE AND MILTON TOOK US TWO WEEKS TO SURVEY. NOW, WE ARE AT THAT STARTING POINT, WHERE WE CAN START CLEARING MAPS. WE DID NOT REINVENT THE WHEEL, WE USE THE SAME 83 MAPS THAT FCC USES, BECAUSE IT TIED RIGHT IN WITH THEIR OPERATIONS. SO, AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE CLEARED SEVEN MAPS . I KNOW I HAVE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS OF, WHY CAN'T WE RIDE A PLAN FROM A TO Z TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE GOING? IT IS SUCH A DYNAMIC PROCESS AS WE LOOK AT WHERE THE PILES ARE, AND WHAT WE CAN CLEAR . I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY PLOTTED ON A MAP AND WE HAVE BEEN IN ALL FIVE DISTRICTS CLEARING MAPS . THERE IS SEVEN MAPS COMPLETED. THERE IS 14 THAT ARE PARTIAL , AND HOPEFULLY, WITHIN THE NEXT DAY, WE WILL BE CLEARED . THERE ARE 17 THAT ARE POSSIBLY CLEARED. THOSE MEANS , WE DID NOT HAVE ANY PILES . FCC DID NOT REPORT ANY PILES ON THOSE MAPS AND THE DEBRIS CONTRACTOR DID NOT REPORT ANY PILES. WE ARE PUTTING COUNTY EYES BEFORE WE SAY, THAT MAP IS CLEAR . IN ESSENCE, GOING INTO TOMORROW AND THE NEXT DAY, WE COULD BE OF A 45% CLEARED IN THIS COUNTY . WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE WE PULL THAT TRIGGER . I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH LAURA TO SEE WHAT THAT MESSAGING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE WITH THAT PROCESS . AS SOON AS WE CLEAR A MAP, WE HAND IT BACK TO FCC AND IT IS BACK TO CAMPUS FOR YARD DEBRIS . WE WILL MESSAGE BACK TO THE COMMUNIY AND PUT A CAVEAT. WE KNOW WE ARE GOING TO MISS A PILE . NO MATTER HOW MUCH WE DO IT RIGHT, WE KNOW THERE WILL BE A CITIZEN THAT WE MISSED IN A PARTICULAR AREA. WE STILL HAVE OUR CALL CENTER, THEY CAN STILL CALL THAT, IT GOES ON OUR SPREADSHEET AND OUR CLAW TRUCKS CAN STILL PICK IT UP. EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T MAP BACK AND SAY, IT HAS CLEARED FCC, WE STILL HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE FOR IF WE DO HAPPEN TO HAVE ONE. THE PLAN, THIS IS WHERE HOWARD WAS ALLUDING, NOT TO NECESSARILY CORRECT YOU, THE PLAN DID EVOLVE FROM THERE.

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THAT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH THE NORMAL FCC PROCESS. WHAT WE ARE DOING AS A COUNTY IS PICKING UP STORM RELATED DEBRIS FROM HELENE AND MILTON . WE ARE ASKING CITIZENS TO BE PATIENT, BECAUSE THIS IS A LONG PROCESS. IT WAS 130 DAYS, WE ARE ONLY 13 DAYS INTO THIS. WE WILL TAKE SOME TIME TO GET THIS DONE. THE WOODEN FENCING , NOT VEGETATIVE STORM DEBRIS, PLEASE GO THROUGH

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THROUGH THIS PARTNERSHIP , WE HAVE ALREADY REMOVED A LOT OF DEBRIS . I ALSO WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO THE MANY DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS THAT HAVE COME TOGETHER TO ASSIST ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES WITH THIS MONUMENTAL TASK OF GETTING STORM DEBRIS CLEANED UP. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, CLAY COUNTY IS TWO WEEKS AHEAD OF THIS PROCESS. OUR CREWS HAVE BEEN DOING AN AWESOME JOB WITH LIMITED RESOURCES. WE WILL CONTINUE OUR CALL CENTER AT THE EOC FROM 8:00 TO 10:00 MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT EXIST. THAT NUMBER IS 1-877-252-9362 . AGAIN, THAT NUMBER IS 1-877-CLAY-EOC. ERIC, MILTON, FCC ARE IN THE ROOM . WE ARE ALL PARTNERS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO STORM DEBRIS, I ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL HAVE.

>> YOU HAVE EXPLAINED IT ALL . >> THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME TAKE THE TIME.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANKS A LOT, GUYS . APPRECIATE IT. WE ARE ON TO

[19.  Clay County Strategic Plan (C. Everill)]

NUMBER 19. CLAY COUNTY STRATEGIC PLAN. >> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

I AM THE OPERATIONS OFFICER REPORTING COORDINATOR HERE AT THE CLAY COUNTY BCC . I WILL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON QUARTER THREE OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN. PLEASE NOTE, ALL THE DATA I WILL GO OVER TONIGHT IS ONLY THROUGH THE END OF THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER. I AM JUST GOING TO GO OVER SOME HIGHLIGHTS. THIS DOES NOT ENCOMPASS ALL OF THE AMAZING THINGS WE HAVE DONE HERE JUST A FEW HIGHLIGHTS, INCLUDING OUR PROGRESS TOWARD OUR FIVE-YEAR GOAL, TOWARD ONE OUR GOAL, ET CETERA . NOW, THE FIRST THING I WANT TO LOOK AT IS COMMUNITY HEALTH AND SAFETY.

OUR TARGET GOAL TO INSPECT 100% OF ALL HIGH RISK OCCUPANCY BUILDINGS, WE ARE ALREADY 60% TO OUR OVERALL GOAL . END OF QUARTER THREE WAS 213. THE LAST TOTAL NUMBER REPORTED BUILDINGS THAT FALL INTO THIS CATEGORY IS 359. THE NEXT GOAL I WANT TO TALK ABOUT HIS INCREASED ACCESS TO AUTOMATED EXTERNAL DEFIBRILLATORS, ALSO KNOWN AS AEDS IN THE COUNTY TO 250 LOCATIONS. OUR END OF THE THREE TOTAL WAS 55. ARE YOUR ONE GOAL WAS 50. WE HAVE ALREADY MET AND EXCEEDED OUR YEAR ONE GOAL AND ARE ON A REALLY GREAT TRACK TO COMPLETE OUR TOTAL FIVE-YEAR GOAL. THE NEXT MEASURABLE IS REGISTER 100 PRIVATE AND NONPROFIT AGENCIES TO THE & COUNTY CARE REFERRAL SYSTEM . OUR END OF QUARTER THREE TOTAL WAS 19. ARE YOUR ONE GOAL WAS 20. WE ARE WELL ON OUR WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THIS YEAR ONE GOAL, AND ONE TRACK TO COMPLETE OUR FIVE-YEAR GOAL . LASTLY, FOR THIS THEME , TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF ENGAGEMENTS THROUGH THE COUNTY REFERRAL SYSTEM TO 1000. THOUGHT IT WAS 1537. WE HAVE EXCEEDED THIS OVERALL GOAL BY 537 . THE NEXT THEME, ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT . THE FIRST MEASURABLE, ATTRACT 30 TOURISM EVENTS IN THE COUNTY, GENERATING OVERNIGHT STAYS. OUR END OF QUARTER THREE TOTAL WAS 6. ARE YOUR ONE GOAL IS FOUR. WE HAVE EXCEEDED THE YEAR ONE

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OUR END OF QUARTER THREE TOTAL COMMERCIAL WAS 20, PRESIDENTIAL WAS FOUR. SO, WE HAVE MET THE OVERALL GOAL AND HAVE ALREADY IMPROVED UPON IT AS WELL. THE NEXT THEME INFRASTRUCTURE, THE FIRST MEASURABLE TO INCREASE RIDERSHIP FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION BY ANY PRESENT OUR END OF QUARTER THREE TOTAL WAS 43,222. WE ARE 32% AWAY FROM REACHING OUR OVERALL GOAL.

THE NEXT THING, QUALITY AND BALANCE OF LIFE. WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED 63% OF THE GOAL IN ITS ENTIRETY. THE BOLD GOAL TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS IN THE COUNTY EDUCATIONAL RECREATIONAL AND CULTURAL PROGRAMS BY 35%. THE END OF QUARTER THREE TOTAL IS 93,567. END OF QUARTER THREE TOTAL WAS 36,309. THE OVERALL GOAL WAS 42,988 . WE ARE ONLY 6679 WAY FROM THE GOAL. LASTLY, THE BOLD GOAL , TO GENERATE 100 MILLION IN REVENUES. END OF QUARTER THREE TOTAL WAS 6,201,435 . OUR YEAR ONE GOAL WAS 20 MILLION. WE ARE 40% -- 46% OF THE OVERALL GOAL HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THESE ARE JUST A FEW HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT IS GOING ON WITH DARKE COUNTY STRATEGIC PLAN , ALL OF YOU HAVE A COPY OF OUR MOST RECENT REPORT, SUMMARIZED IN QUARTER THREE. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THINGS I JUST HIGHLIGHTED NOW, OR ANYTHING TO REPORT IN THIS ENTIRETY , I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, AND ALWAYS AS WITH ANY STRATEGIC PLAN, AS TIME PROGRESSES, WE WILL FINE-TUNE THE PLAN AND ONCE WE HAVE MET THE FIRST YEAR, WE WILL BE IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE GOALS WE HAVE REACHED AND WHAT ELSE THE COUNTY CAN

ACHIEVE. ANY QUESTIONS? >> QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU, SO MUCH.

[20.  FY24 Grants Department Report (M. Covey/G. Biastre)]

>> ITEM NUMBER 20 , FISCAL YEAR 24 GRANT DEPARTMENT. >> GOOD EVENING, MEGYN KELLY , GRANTS DIRECTOR. PER THE GRANTS MANAGEMENT POLICY, WE COME TO THE ACC EACH YEAR TO RECAP THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR, SOME OF OUR MILESTONES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND REPORT ON THE DEPARTMENT'S OVERALL RETURN ON INVESTMENT TO THE COUNTY AND TAXPAYERS, BEFORE I GET TOO FAR INTO THE PRESENTATION, I WANT TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO THESE COUNTY AND STAFF DEPARTMENT . A BIG THANK YOU TO CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS AND COUNTYWIDE DEPARTMENTS WE WORK WITH ON A DAILY BASIS, BECAUSE WITHOUT THEIR SUPPORT AND BUY-IN, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE DO WITH GRANTS. IN FY '24, A COUPLE OF MILESTONES I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, NUMBER ONE, ARPA ALLOCATION OF 42 1/2 MILLION DOLLARS IS ALLOCATED AS WE GO TO THIS LAST ARPA ALLOCATION .

WE WILL BE FOCUSING ON CLOSEOUT AND AUDITING THAT WITH U.S. TREASURY. SIMILARLY, OUR EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE WITH ANOTHER FEDERAL PROGRAM THAT BECAME AVAILABLE IN RESPONSE TO COVID-19. OUR EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE ONE PROGRAM HAS BEEN CLOSED AND WAS FULLY AUDITED IN FY '24. E.R.A. 2 HAS BEEN FULLY EXTENDED, AND ARE COMPLIANT TEAM IS MANAGING FINAL CLOSEOUT FOR THAT PROGRAM AS WELL. WE ALSO RECEIVED OUR $17 MILLION CENTRALE AWARD FOR THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA GREENWAY TRAIL THROUGH THE COUNTY. THIS IS THE LARGEST, SINGLE

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AS WE LOOK TO FY '25, THESE OBJECTIVES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN AS WELL. WE WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD ON OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH NONPROFITS , MUNICIPALITIES TO STRENGTHEN OUR GRANT ACQUISITION CAPABILITIES. ALSO ENSURE THAT OUR F-ROC INVESTMENT RATE REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS IS UPDATED ANNUALLY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COMES INTO PLAY WHEN WE LOOK AT FEMA ASSISTANCE AND DISASTER RECOVERY. AND OF COURSE, CONTINUE TO ESTABLISH ANNUAL PRIORITIES AND ALIGNED WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND PURSUE THE FEDERAL GRANT OPPORTUNITIES TO MAXIMIZE ON FORD COUNTY PROJECTS.

ONE AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY THE DEPARTMENT HAS, WE DON'T TALK ABOUT QUITE AS MUCH IS POST DISASTER FINANCIAL RECOVERY. WE DID HAVE THREE MAJOR NAMED STORMS THIS YEAR, I THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH HIGHLIGHTING . ANYTIME THERE IS A FEDERAL DISASTER DECLARATION THAT INCLUDES CLAY COUNTY, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNTY TO REQUEST PUBLIC ASSISTANCE THROUGH FEMA.

THIS GRAPH SHOWS NO AWARDS YEAR OVER YEAR, FISCAL YEAR 22, 2022 WAS THE FIRST YEAR OF THE GRANT DEPARTMENT . THIS IS OUR DEPARTMENT'S ENTIRE HISTORY, BUT IT SHOWS THE GROWTH . THIS IS IN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE DEPARTMENT . THIS YEAR, WE HAD $47 MILLION IN AWARDS IN FY '24 THAT IS MORE THAN DOUBLE THE PRIOR YEAR AND MORE THAN TRIPLED WHERE WE STARTED IN FY '2022. WE WILL CONTINUE TO TRACK THIS AND REPORT ALONGSIDE THE STRATEGIC PLAN. THERE ARE TWO MAIN SIDES TO THE GRANT DEPARTMENT WHEN IT COMES TO THE APPLICATION AND COMPLIANCE PROCESS. WE HAVE GRANT WRITERS WHO ACTUALLY DO THE RESEARCH AND PREPARE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE SUBMITTING AND FUNDING AGENTS FOR THE REVIEW. WE HAVE COMPLIANCE ANALYST ONCE THOSE APPLICATIONS ARE ABORTED , MAKE SURE WE CHECK ALL OF THOSE COMPLIANCE BOXES, THE ENVIRONMENTAL REQUIREMENTS, TWO CFR 200 REQUIREMENTS, AND ACTUALLY OVERSEE THE REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS AND ISSUE CASH COMES BACK TO THE COUNTY.

58% WERE AWARDED ON THE GRANT COMPLIANCE SIDE, THE TEAM MANAGED 63 GRANT AGREEMENTS. ON THOSE AGREEMENTS RECEIVED, $13.1 MILLION BACK IN CASH TO THE COUNTY. NEXT SLIDE. WE ALWAYS WANT TO LOOK AT RETURN ON INVESTMENT . THIS IS A LOOK AT OUR COST NEXT TO OUR REVENUE . IN FY '24, THE TOTAL COST TO THE COUNTY INCLUDED NINE ADDITIONAL FTES, AND WAS APPROXIMATELY $145,000. REVENUE WAS $60 MILLION. THIS INCLUDES THAT $47 MILLION IN NEW AWARDS, PLUS THE $13 MILLION IN REIMBURSEMENTS WE RECEIVED. THIS WAS A 98% INCREASE OVER FY '23. WHEN YOU COMPARE THOSE NUMBERS SIDE-BY-SIDE, THAT GIVES YOU A 71 TO 1 ROI FOR THE DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE. I THINK THE MOST IMPACTFUL NUMBER IS HOW THIS AFFECTS OUR TAXPAYERS . WE KNOW AS A DEPARTMENT , OUR OVERALL GOAL IS TO HELP INCREASE THE COUNTY'S

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TO REPLACE GRANT REVENUE , WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE NUMBERS . FOR FY '25, AD VALOREM IS ESTIMATED AT $125 MILLION. WE COMPARE THAT AGAINST $47 MILLION IN NEW AWARDS. IF WE HAD TO REPLACE GRANT AWARDS, IT WOULD REQUIRE A 30% INCREASE . THAT IS WHAT WE HOPE WE CAN SHARE WITH THE TAXPAYERS TO WORK ON AS WE MOVE FORWARD AS A DEPARTMENT. SO, WITH THAT, WE ALSO HAVE SPONSORSHIPS INCLUDED IN THE GRANT DEPARTMENT. THIS WAS A NEW POSITION THAT WAS ADDED LAST YEAR. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO GEORGE TO BRIEF YOU ON PROGRESS

THERE AND WE CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS . >> THANK YOU, MEGAN. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. SO, RECAP , '24, WE GENERATED ALMOST $97,000 IN SPONSORSHIPS. $34,000 IN DONATIONS, BOTH CASH AND IN-KIND VALUE . THERE WERE 21 PROJECTS THAT WERE COUNTED IN THAT THAT WE HAD WORKING WITH THE VOLUNTEER SERVICES APARTMENT. WE HAD 14 ADOPT A MILE FIVE , EVERY MILE THAT IS ADOPTED BY A PERSON OR AN INSTITUTION IS MONEY THAT WE ARE NOT SPENDING HAVING ROAD CLUES CREWS CLEANING UP THE MILE. WE ARE PUTTING DONATION PORTALS ON OUR DEPARTMENT , OUR ANIMAL SERVICES SITE HAS ONE NOW WHERE PEOPLE CAN MAKE CASH DONATIONS TO SUPPORT THE PROJECTS ANIMAL SERVICES DOES , AND WE WILL BE STANDING UP FOR NO MORE OF THEM IN THIS YEAR. LOOKING AT 2025, WE HAVE SOME VERY GOOD NEWS . I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE DR. KIM CARNEY, SHE IS IN THE ROOM WITH LINCOLN MEMORIAL UNIVERSITY . THEY HAVE INDICATED A LETTER OF INTENT TO HELP SUPPORT OUR ANIMAL SERVICES BUILDING WITH THE MILLION DOLLAR CONTRIBUTION . WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. THAT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY NICE PARTNERSHIP . THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME SHARED RESOURCES WITH LMU AND OUR ANIMAL SERVICES FACILITY WITH THE CHAIRMAN'S BUT PERMISSION, IF KIM CARNEY WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING, YOU'RE WELCOME TO HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU, FAIR ENOUGH. OBVIOUSLY CONTINUING MY WORK AROUND THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE COUNTY TO CHAMBER MEETINGS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THE SPONSORSHIP WEBSITE WOULD BE ENHANCED, WHICH WOULD COMMUNICATE OUR MISSING QUITE A BIT BETTER. AGAIN, I MENTIONED THE DONATION PORTALS FOR MORE DEPARTMENT , AND WE HAVE SOME PENDING GOOD NEWS COMING ON REGIONAL PARK NAMING RIGHTS , I GOT VERY CURSORY CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH EIGHT MAJOR BRAND THAT MAY BE INTERESTED IN NAMING THE REGIONAL PARK . WE ALREADY HAVE WASTE MANAGEMENT AS ONE OF THE FIELDS , $25,000 COMMITMENT PER YEAR , AND I HAVE GOT SOME OTHERS IN THE PIPELINE. FITNESS AT MOODY PARK HAS SLOWED DOWN A LITTLE, BUT I STILL HAVE SOME GOOD PROSPECTS IN THE PIPELINE FOR THAT ONE WHEN WE GET CLOSE TO THAT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE . I GUESS THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE FINISH. HERE WE GO. ANY

QUESTIONS ? >> NO, ALL GOOD NEWS. >> I LIKE FOLLOWING LOTS OF

GOOD NEWS. >> WE ARE ALWAYS WILLING TO ACCEPT BETTER NEWS.

>> THANK YOU. >> MR. CHAIR, ONE QUICK QUESTION. GOING BACK A FEW SLIDES THAT MEGAN WENT OVER THAT INDICATED THAT ARPA WAS FULLY OBLIGATED, THAT TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION THE 20,000 WE DID NOT DO ANYTHING WITH TODAY IN REGARDS TO

>> THOSE FUNDS ARE STILL AVAILABLE, YES, SHOULD WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. PURCHASING

[21.  Purchasing Policy Revisions including Local Preference (K. Smith)]

POLICY. >> GOOD AFTERNOON . AS YOU KNOW, WE PERIODICALLY MAKE

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WITH THAT, I WANTED TO BRING TO THE BOARD AND ASKED IF THERE WERE ANY CHANGES THE BOARD WANTED IN OUR LOCAL PREFERENCE POLICY. WE APPLY LOCAL PREFERENCE TO LOW BID ITEMS AND REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS . THAT DOES NOT INCLUDERFQ'S FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS . THAT IS A DIFFERENT CRITERIA, DRIVEN BY FLORIDA STAFF AND CC IN A, WHERE WE LOOK AT LOCATION . OUR LOCAL PREFERENCE , A COPY WAS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA . I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY INPUT ON THE LOCAL PREFERENCE. ANY CHANGES NEEDED, I'M NOT INDICATING THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH OUR CURRENT, LOCAL PREFERENCE, I JUST WANTED TO NOTE IF THAT WAS SOMETHING YOU WANTED ME TO BRING BACK WITH CHANGES ?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT, IF YOU DON'T MIND. QUICKLY, I WAS ONE OF THE ONES WHO HAD EXPRESSED LOOKING AT THE LOCAL PREFERENCE BEFORE, BUT KAREN , HOW DOES OUR CURRENT PURCHASING POLICY ALIGNED WITH THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES AND OTHER COUNTIES IN FLORIDA? ARE WE

MORE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THIS? >> YES, YES WE ARE. WE DID ANOTHER RESEARCH AGAIN JUST THIS LAST FEW WEEKS, SERVING OTHER COUNTIES TO MAKE SURE WE WERE STILL IN LINE WITH WHAT THE OTHER COUNTIES DO. SOME OF THE BIGGER COUNTIES HAVE A BROADER, LOCAL PREFERENCE, BUT I WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND THAT . THAT IS LIKE MIAMI-DADE,. LARGE COUNTIES.

>> SOME OF THE THOUGHTS I HAD WHEN THIS HAD COME UP BEFORE, I TALKED ABOUT WITH COURTNEY, AND REALIZED, THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN LEGAL. SO, I KNOW WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T WANT TO DO

THAT, SO I AM FINE TO LEAVE THE LOCAL PREFERENCE THE WAY IT IS. >> I AGREE WITH THAT. I KNOW IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE PUT IN SEVEN YEARS AGO. I THOUGHT THAT AT SOME POINT, MAYBE IT MAY NEED A LITTLE TWEAK, IT IS NOT BEING OVERUSED, IN TERMS OF OFFSETTING A LOT OF THE BIDS THAT WE GET IN AND OUR PURCHASING . I THINK WE COULD LEAVE IT ALONE AND RE-EXAMINE IF THERE IS A SITUATION THAT SHOWS IT NEEDS TO BE TWEAKED IN SOME FASHION. I THINK IT SHOWS GOOD FAITH THE BOARD, THE COUNTY, IN MAKING SURE THAT WE TRY TO BENEFIT LOCAL COMPANIES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE . WE SEND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OUT, ACHING TO BRING COMPANIES BACK TO US , WHY NOT REWARD THOSE COMPANIES THAT ARE HERE IN CLAY COUNTY AND WANT TO DO BUSINESS

WITH THE COUNTY? >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR KAREN?

>> I WILL BE BACK IN ANOTHER COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH CHANGES, BUT APPRECIATE THE

FEEDBACK . THANK YOU. >> HUNTER DOUGLAS PARK BASEBALL, WE HEARD A LITTLE

ABOUT TONIGHT. JUSTIN WILL TELL US IN DETAILS. >> SPORTS COMPLEX, NUMBER 22.

[22.  Clay County Regional Sports Complex Cross Country Course (J Pierce/M. Covey/K. Morgan)]

>> I SORRY . LOOKED AT THE WRONG ONE. HE WILL TALK ABOUT THE BOOKS COMPLEX.

>> KIMBERLY MORGAN, TOURISM AND I WILL TECH TEAM THIS NEXT ITEM.

>> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS . BACK EARLIER THIS SUMMER WE BROUGHT TO YOU A FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT MADE A RECOMMENDATION FOR PHASE 2 OF THE REGIONAL SPORTS COMPLEX TO INCLUDE FOUR TURF MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS , AND INDOOR FACILITY, ACCOMMODATING EIGHT BASKETBALL COURTS, AND A CROSS-COUNTRY MET THE REGULATIONS FOR NCAA COMPETITION. THAT REPORT WAS DONE BY THE PARTNERS AND THEY DID A LOT OF RESEARCH BASICALLY TO LOOK AT COMPETITIVE MARKETS WITHIN THE SPORTS ARENA AND LOOKED AT THE LOCAL COMMUNITY DEMANDED. YOU, KIMBERLY. WHERE THAT LEAVES US NOW IS IF YOU SPORTS COMPLEX AND THE REGIONAL PHASES THAT WE DID A FEW YEARS AGO , THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS INITIALLY PRESENTED, SO WHAT

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THAT IS THE MASTER PLAN. FINANCIAL DATA OF HOW MUCH IT WILL COST TO BUILD NEW ELEMENTS AND OPERATIONAL COSTS IT WILL BE FOR THE NEW ELEMENTS AND ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT IT WILL BRING INTO THE COUNTY, AS WELL AS DOING A NEW MASTER PLAN TO INCLUDE ELEMENTS BEFORE YOU. WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE DIRECTION FOR THE BOARDS TO PROVIDE NEXT STEPS.

>> YOU ARE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION?

>> DO WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE TDC TO BUILD ELEMENTS AND THE NCAA COURSE WITHIN THE ELEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU OR ARE WE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DESIGNING THE COURSE AROUND THE CURRENT RENDERING AND FUTURE PHASES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE SITE PLAN WE HAVE.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAVE RECOMMENDED . I THINK IT IS BASED ON WHAT THEY FEEL IS NEEDED FOR OUR AREA. WHAT WE HAVE SAID BEFORE WAS SOMETHING KIND OF A PLAN. WE DIDN'T HAVE A STUDY BASED ON IT, SO I LIKE TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAVE.

>> MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD? REALIZING THAT THEY HAVE PUT TOGETHER A RECOMMENDATION MORE SO THAN TELLING US SPECIFICALLY . THESE PLANS ARE WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE . I HATE TO SPEND MONEY ON STUDIES AND A MASTER PLAN SHOULD BE DONE ONLY IF YOU THINK IT'S YOU WILL BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU WANT TO WITH THE PLAN . AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THEY HAVE IT LABELED AT PHASE TWO, PHASE ONE OR BE WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT B . WE WOULD LIKE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE CROSS-COUNTRY COURSE AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH PARKING. I THINK WE NEED TO DO SOME WITH MORE BATHROOMS OR A SEPARATE BATHROOM AREA BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE SEEN SO FAR AND ASKING FOR FOUR FULL-SIZE MULTISPORT SOCCER TEXT FIELDS AND ALSO MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT ARTIFICIAL TURF FIELDS . THOSE ARE RUNNING 1 MILLION OR MORE PER . WHEN YOU COMBINE THOSE WITH INDOOR VENUES, WHICH WILL BE A NUMBER OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, IS THAT WHERE YOU WANT TO GO OR DO WE WANT TO CONCENTRATE ON SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW IS DOABLE ON PHASE 1B OR HOLD IT OFF TO A FULL FACE TO PHASE TWO. IN THE EVENTS THAT WE PUT ON , IT COULD BE HIGH SCHOOL AND TALKED ABOUT MAYBE DOING SOMETHING WITH THEIRS . LOCAL PEOPLE IF IT'S DESIGNED IN THE RIGHT PLACE AND RESIDENTS CAN UTILIZE THAT FOR THE WALKING PATH OR RUNNING PATH , SO TO ME AND I THINK WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN THE POPULARITY OF OUR EIGHT FIELDS AND HAVING FOUR

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>> I WOULD LIKE TO CHIME IN ON THAT. THE INTENT OF TOURISM AND THE COUNTY IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PHASE TWO, WHICH WILL BE THE NCAA COURSE. WITH THAT IN MIND, HOW WE INCORPORATE THE COURSE WITH THE FUTURE PHASES AND WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE IS GEARING IN THAT DIRECTION OR STICKING WITH THE CURRENT PLAN AND I THINK IT WILL SWAY THE DESIGNS OF THE COURSE, SO THAT IS THE STICKING PORT POINT. WE ARE MOVING THAT MONEY TOWARDS THE COURSE AND ALLOCATING FUNDS TO THE SUPPORT FACILITIES FOR THAT COURSE , BUT IS IT AN INDOOR COURT IN THE FUTURE THAT WE ARE BUILDING THE COURSE AROUND? IS IT BASEBALL FIELDS OR FOUR ADDITIONAL FIELDS WITH THE SIX BASEBALL DUEL? IT IS HOW WE DESIGN THE NCAA COURSE AROUND THE FUTURE OF WHAT THAT 200 ACRES WILL BE. AND ANOTHER THING I LEFT OUT, WE ARE HOLDING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NORTH FLORIDA LANDS FOR US AND IT IS DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE REGIONAL SPORTS COMPLEX.

KIMBERLY HAS BEEN REACHING OUT TO DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS AND EXPERTS IN THE NCAA COURSE FIELDS, ESPECIALLY IN THE TALLAHASSEE REGION OF WHAT THE MATERIAL NEEDS TO BE, SO WITH THAT, IT CAN BE ANYTHING FROM MOST NATURAL AND ALL SORTS OF LAND TRUST THAT HAVE CONVERSATION WITH US TO ORDER 2.5 YEARS AGO OF BUILDING TRUST THROUGHOUT THE LAND , SO THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN EXPLORE OF MAYBE USING THE ELEMENTS OF THAT 421 ACRES TO BUILD TRAIL AND FOR TOURISM EVENTS. HOW WE DESIGN IS PREDICATED ON WHAT THE FUTURE WILL LOOK LIKE AS A WHOLE, SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR DIRECTIONS OF WHERE WE ARE MOVING NEXT.

>> MAY I ALSO ADD THAT IN THE BUDGET, THERE ARE IMPACT FEES THAT WE HAVE ACCUMULATED THAT ARE AVAILABLE, AS WELL. I THINK

400,000. >> $400,000 AND PROBABLY 400,000 THIS PAST COMING YEAR , WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE WITHIN DIRECTLY ALLOCATED TOWARDS THE REGIONAL PARK. IT CAN ONLY BE

USED . >> I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT. WHEN DID WE PASS AN IMPACT FEE THAT COULD ONLY BE USED FOR THE REGIONAL PARK ? I THOUGHT THERE WERE PARKS.

>> THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT FUNDS.

>> WHEN WE ADOPTED THE COMPREHENSIVE IMPACT FEES, WE ADOPTED SIX DIFFERENT IMPACT FEES. ONE WAS DESIGNATED FOR COMMUNITY PARKS TO DO IT THROUGH EACH DISTRICT BASED ON THE MOBILITY FEES, THEN WE ADOPTED A REGIONAL FEE AT THE SAME TIME WITH MONEY THAT PAYS INTO THE POT TO BUILD OR EXPAND THE REGIONAL PARK NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE BUILT IN THE COUNTY . TO THE COUNTY MANAGERS POINT , A LITTLE OVER 400,000 LAST YEAR IN THE BANK WITH REAL DOLLARS COLLECTD, THEN WE BUDGETED 400,000 THAT WE EXPECT TO BRING IN ON THE IMPACT FEE

THIS YEAR. >> DO HAVE $400,000 IN OUR

OTHER PARKS FUND, AS WELL? >> WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY, BECAUSE THERE ARE FIVE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS. THAT IS PROGRAMMED. IT JUST DOESN'T HAVE PROGRAMS IDENTIFIED YET .

ON THE COMMUNITY PARKS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE IMPACT THE DOLLAR PLUS THE DOLLAR TO MAKE UP THE COUNTY DEFICITS, SO WE

HAVE BOTH BUDGETED. >> RIGHT NOW, MAYBE IT IS BECAUSE WE ARE GOING ON FOUR HOURS AND I JUST DON'T HAVE THE DETAILS OF RECOLLECTIONS ON THE IMPACT FEES.

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>> I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SET DOWN AND GO OVER THE

CIP. >> TO KIMBERLY'S POINT AND JUSTIN, YOU HAVE THE IMPACT FEES AND THE APPROPRIATION IF YOU DECIDE TO DO AN IMPROVEMENT OR MOVE FORWARD WITH AN APPROPRIATE . YOU DO MONEY ON BOTH SIDES.

>> HOW MANY ACRES IS THE NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST?

>> 421. >> COMBINE THAT WITH 250.

>> WE DEVELOPED 48 ACRES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

>> I HEAR YOU, JUSTIN. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO WORK WITH THE NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST, BUT YOU CAN'T GO TO A STUDY UNTIL YOU ARE SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING ONE DIRECTION OR THE OTHER, SO I GUESS THAT'S WHY YOU ARE COMING TO US AND I TOLD YOU THAT I WOULD STAY AWAY FROM DIAMONDS AND GO FOR FULL-SIZE AND STAY AWAY FROM ARTIFICIAL TURF . CROSS COUNTRY, WHETHER IT IS PART OF THE NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST OR PART OF OUR 250 OR MAY BE A COMBINATION OF BOTH AND IT MAKES THE DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH AN INDOOR FACILITY . FOR FUTURE USE AND WHETHER YOU ARE PLANNING TO RUNAROUND THAT WITH THE CROSS COUNTRY COURSE OR NOT WITH SOMEBODY THAT IS MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE WAY THAT THEY BOUGHT THE COURSES TO BE DESIGNED AS FAR AS COLLEGES ARE CONCERNED OR HIGH SCHOOLS. DO THEY RUN INTO THE WOODS AND DISAPPEAR? WE TRACK THEM ON GPS NOW AND THEY COME BACK OUT OF THE WOODS AND FINISH. THAT IS TYPICALLY WHAT IT USED TO BE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS NOW, SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE WHO WE ARE CONSULTING WITH TO TRY TO GET THE THOUGHT PROCESS. LESS-EXPENSIVE STUDY OR MASTER PLAN -- I WOULDN'T EVEN CALL IT A MASTER PLAN, BECAUSE IT CERTAINLY WILL NOT BE THE BE ALL AND ALL OF THE SPORTS PARK AS WE CONTINUE TO ADD DIFFERENT COMPONENTS AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT FOR FISHING OR RECREATIONAL BOATING OR WHATEVER. IT IS PART OF THAT. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

>> WE ARE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION TO DESIGN AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. WHEN WE DO WITH THE CONSULTANT, WE WILL HAVE MEETINGS AND TALK ABOUT THE ELEMENTS WE WANT TO INCLUDE AND EXCLUDE FROM THE FUTURE PHASES, SO IT MAY NOT BE ADOPTED ADOPTING THE INDOOR BASKETBALL COURT, BUT THE COMBINATION OF SIX BASEBALL FIELDS . THE DESIRE OF THE BOARD OR STAFF MAY BE TO ADD OTHER RECREATIONAL ELEMENTS, WHICH ALLOWS THE CONSULTANT TO BRING US A RENDERING AND TESTAMENT OF WHAT WILL FIT INTO THE ADDITIONAL 200 ACRES WITH THE COURSE BEING THE MAIN DESIGN OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TO MOVE

FORWARD WITH IN THE NEXT PHASE. >> I WOULD BE CAUTIOUS ON TWO THINGS. WHEN IT COMES TO THE IMPACT FEES, WE'VE GOT TO BE CAUTIOUS WHEN USING THEM, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. I THINK ANYTHING THAT WE DESIGN HER SISTER HAS TO STAY ON OUR PROPERTY. THERE ARE A LIST OF SEVEN PHASES INSTEAD OF THE ACT IMPACT FEE STUDY. TO USE THE MONEY, IT HAS TO BE ITEMS WITHIN THE STUDY AND WHAT WE DID AT THE TIME . WHILE I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THERE MAY BE CHANGES THAT WE WANT TO DO , IF WE ARE USING THE MONEY, WE HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS TO STAY ON THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT WAS

APPROVED DURING THE STUDY. >> MR. CHAIRMAN , IF I MAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE AT A STANDING POINT. WE HAVE $500,000 APPROPRIATED TO US THAT WE CAN USE TO DEVELOP A CROSS COUNTRY COURSE . MEGAN CAN HELP ME OUT ON THE DETAILS OF THE GRANT APPLICATION . APPARENTLY, IT APPEARS THAT WE CAN DESIGN THE CROSS COUNTRY COURSE WITH THE $500,000, WHICH PROBABLY BE SOMEWHERE IN THE $100,000 RANGE . IF IT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT TO HAVE THIS ARCHITECT SPECIALIZING IN CROSS COUNTRY'S AND DESIGN IT, THEN WE CAN HAVE MONEY TO BUILD IT . SHOULD WE NOT HAVE ENOUGH

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>> WE DON'T HAVE THAT. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT PART OF IT. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY USE GPS OR NOT OR THE TRACK COMES BACK TO WHERE A GROUP IS OR CROWD. I DO KNOW THAT IT WAS A DISCUSSION. THAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD WHAT I JUST HYPER FOCUSED ON CROSS COUNTRY , WHICH WILL BE THE DIRECTION WE MOVE INTO AND WE WOULD GO OUT AND BRING BACK TO THE PORT SOMEONE WHO WOULD COME AND DESIGN THIS, BECAUSE NONE OF US ARE EXPERTS WHEN IT COMES TO THE DESIGN OF THE CROSS-COUNTRY COURSE. IF THAT'S THE PLEASURE, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND PUT OUR THINKING CAPS ON AND GET WITH THE DEPARTMENT A LITTLE BIT MORE TO FIND THAT OUT AND USE THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE TERRIFYING WHAT THEY ARE RECOMMENDING AND MAYBE KNOCK IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE AND NOT HAVE SUCH A BROAD AREA. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DIAMONDS AND FIELDS AND ALL OF THAT. IT GETS COMPLICATED AS IT DOES EXPONENTIALLY. THAT IS GOOD.

DID I MISS ANYTHING FOR YOU ON THAT ONE?

>> I'M FINE WITH THAT, EXCEPT THAT THE COUNTY TOLD US THAT THEY DID NOT DO -- WE GET ALL OF THESE DESIGNS FROM EVERYBODY AND DO ALL OF THESE STUDIES. WE SPEND SO MUCH MONEY STUDYING AND DESIGNING . I GET IT THAT THINGS ARE EXPENSIVE, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT OTHER COUNTIES ARE ABLE TO DO THINGS FOR LESS MONEY. WE ARE ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT AN ANIMAL SERVICES BUILDING THAT IS ARGUABLY LONG OVERDUE. WHY HAS IT NOT BEEN DONE? IT IS SO EXPENSIVE AND I GET IT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ARCHITECT TO DESIGN IT. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND. UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANT THE CALIBER AND I WAS THE ONE WHO SAID HOW I REALLY WANT TO DO THIS AND I DON'T WANT TO DO IT, EXCEPT LEON COUNTY TOLD US THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT AND THEY DID IT AS THEY COULD GO. THEY GOT WITH THEIR LOCAL UNIVERSITY THAT HELPED THEM. WHAT YOU NEED FOR THIS AND THAT KIND OF THING. THEY WERE ABLE TO DO IT. DOES THAT MAKE IT LONGER? I DON'T KNOW. DOES IT MAKE IT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN $100,000? IT SEEMS TO ME THAT $100,000 TO DESIGN A CROSS-COUNTRY COURSE -- I'VE WATCHED CROSS-COUNTRY MEETS . I JUST DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND. THERE IS A DEFINITE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR CROSS-COUNTRY COURSES AND WE HAVE THE ONE THAT THEY HAVE DONE AT THE FAIRGROUNDS AND I KNOW IT'S A NEED. IT IS $100,000 TO DESIGN IT , THEN WE ARE GOING TO REDESIGN THE PART THAT WE DESIGNED BEFORE I WAS ON THE COMMISSION, SO I GUESS IT IS FRUSTRATING TO ME THAT IS WHAT WE CONTINUE TO DO. WE KEEP COMING BACK TO WE NEED MORE. WE NEED ANOTHER STUDY. WE NEED ANOTHER SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW. I WANT TO SEE THE CROSS-COUNTRY COURSE DONE , BUT

IT'S ALL OF THE OTHER MONEY. >> IT'S THE WAY WE GET THERE.

OUT OF THE 500,000 TO SPEND 100 THOUSAND TO DO AN OUTDOOR PRINT

>> WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S 100 GRAND. IT COULD BE LESS OR MORE. WITH THAT, YOU COULD GO OUT WITH AN RFQ ON THAT AND COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND THE BOARD CAN MAKE A DECISION. WE DO HAVE 500,000 AND IT IS AVAILABLE HERE. WE SHOULD USE WISELY AND I FULLY AGREE WITH THAT. WE DO NOT WANT TO OVERSPEND FOR THE DESIGN OF A CROSS-COUNTRY COURSE AND I THOUGHT THAT YOU HAD TALKED TO A FEW PEOPLE . HE DID TALK TO THE EXPERT AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE LAST TIME.

>> THE 120 RANGE WAS PREDICATED ON THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE FACILITY NOT JUST THE CROSS-COUNTRY COURSE AND THE

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>> HOW DO WE WANT TO DIRECT STAFF? WE'VE GOT THE 500,000 FOR CROSS-COUNTRY . WE DON'T HAVE THE SKILL SET INTERNALLY

TO DO THAT . >> I'M FINE TO SEE WHAT THEY COME BACK WITH DEFINITELY. WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO WITH THE LEGISLATURE FOR THE APPROPRIATION. THANKFULLY, THAT WAS ONE OF THE VERY FEW THINGS HAT THE GOVERNOR DIDN'T STRIKE. ST. JOHNS RIVER STATE COLLEGE ASKED FOR THIS PARTNERSHIP AND I THINK ALL OF THAT IS A GOOD THING. IT IS WHERE WE GO WITH THE REST OF THE REGIONAL PARK THAT IS A HEADACHE. WE DON'T HAVE THE

MONEY. >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PLAN AHEAD, BUT THEY DESIGN A CROSS-COUNTRY COURSE , THEN WE WILL HAVE TO BRING IT TO ACTUALLY DO THAT AND TO SHOW THE WAY. YOU CAN USE YOUR IMAGINATION TO MAKE A BIG CIRCLE SOMEWHERE WHERE AT SOME POINT HE WILL PUT SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CIRCLE. I SAID IN THE BEGINNING HOW I DON'T LIKE SPENDING ALL OF THIS MONEY ON STUDIES AND PLANS WHEN WE ARE NOT SURE WHETHER THE PLANS WILL EVER BE TO FLOURISH IN . I THINK WE NEED MORE THINGS. MAYBE PAY FOR BATHROOMS AND PARKING LOT , SO THAT IT FREES UP OTHER MONEY TO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THE MONEY THAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE GAVE US TO DO . CROSS-COUNTRY OR MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE THAT CAN BE TAGGED ONTO THAT. TO PAY THE MASTER PLAN GUIDE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING FOR $120,000 . I KNOW IT'S AN EXAGGERATION , BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS INCLUDED. THEY CAME BACK AND HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION AND LET US GO IN WHATEVER DIRECTION THEY POSTED.

>> I DO THINK THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR INDOOR SPORTS COURTS AND WE HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF OUR YOUNG LADIES WHO PLAY VOLLEYBALL AND BASKETBALL. I HAD MENTIONED THAT I LIKE THE IDEA OF PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. MAYBE THE GUY WHO HAD THE MINOR LEAGUE BASKETBALL WILL COME BACK EVEN THOUGH WHAT HE WANTED IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE. I DON'T KNOW

WHAT'S THERE. >> LOOKING AT A SPORTS COMPLEX IN ALABAMA RIGHT NOW . THERE IS A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT I ATTENDED IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS. WE ARE LOOKINGIN THAT DIRECTION. I THINK WE ARE NOT THERE YET. DO WE NEED A MOTION TO DO THAT? DO WE HAVE DIRECTION ENOUGH? NOW, WE WILL

[23.  Hunter Douglas Park Baseball Field Commemoration (J. Pierce)]

GET INTO JUSTIN'S EVENT. >> EARLIER TODAY, YOU HEARD FROM THE HAMPSHIRE FAMILY ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE HILLTOP COMMUNITY IN THE HUNTER DOUGLAS FACILITY THAT IS OUT THERE AND THE TEAMS THAT PLAYED IN THE SWAPPERS AND THE TWINS BRIDGE TWO MEETINGS AGO, CAME AND DISCUSSED THE EVENT ON NOVEMBER 10TH AND INVITED THE COMMISSION OUT, AS WELL TO TALK ABOUT THE NEED AND WANT OF MEMORIALIZING THE GROUP . THE PLATE 50 YEARS AGO AND I DON'T THINK I EXISTED AT THAT TIME , BUT WHAT WE ARE WANTING TO DO IS WORK WITH THE GROUP . SINCE THEN, WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE PAST MONTH ABOUT HOW WE CAN MEMORIALIZE THE TWO GROUPS THAT PLAY THERE AND WHAT HAS COME

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USE. >> I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. THAT IS ONE OF THE NEATEST THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IN CLAY COUNTY. MEMORIALIZE IN THE HISTORY OF THE TEAMS THAT

HAVE PLAYED THERE. >> IF YOU GET TO COME OUT ON NOVEMBER 10TH, YOU GET TO SEE THE OLD SCHOOL HOUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL AFRICAN-AMERICAN SCHOOLS IN CLAY COUNTY, AND THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME AT THE HUNTER DOUGLAS PARK WITH A LOT OF KIDS PLAYING. ONE OF OUR MARTIN LUTHER KING CLEANUPS WAS OUT THERE AND IT WAS A GREAT TIME, SO I HOPE THAT IF YOU CAN MAKE IT AND I KNOW IT'S THE SAME WEEKEND AS THE RACE AND ALL OF THAT, SO I KNOW THERE'S A LOT GOING ON, BUT I JUST CAN'T. I'M SUPER EXCITED, TOO. I THINK THIS IS AWESOME FOR THAT COMMUNITY AND THEY WILL APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. I WAS ALIVE THEN AND BARELY.

>> I APPRECIATE YOU. VETERANS DAY 5K ON THAT SATURDAY, SO

PEOPLE CAN PARTICIPATE IN BOTH. >> DIRECTION , GO FORTH AND

MAKE IT HAPPEN. >> THAT'S ALL I NEED TO HEAR.

[24.  Bid No. 23/24-128, Clay County Animal Services Shelter and Care Facility (Re-Bid) (K. Smith)]

THANK YOU. >> WE ARE ONTO NEW BUSINESS FOR ITEM 24 THE CLAY COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES SHELTER. THIS ITEM IS TO BRING THE DETAILS OF THE RECENT REBID OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND WE PUT UP THE BID AND IT IS STILL EXTREMELY HIGH , SO WE DID A SUMMARY SCOPING OF THE BUDGET WITH THE ARCHITECT AND PUT THE BIDS BACK OUT AGAIN. WE RECEIVED THREE BIDS AND THE LOW BID WAS SUBMITTED BY YVONNE RIVERS . IT WAS THE BOARD'S DESIRE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT AND THE ARCHITECTS RECOMMENDATION TO GO FORWARD WITH THE BASE BID AND DEDUCT NUMBER THREE AND THE ALLOWANCE FOR THE DBA FOR THE PROJECTS . THOSE TOTAL $21,550,585 . I'M HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> MY QUESTIONS AREN'T SO MUCH FOR THE ACTUAL FOR THE BIDS , BUT WE ARE OBVIOUSLY $6 MILLION OVER WHAT WE ALLOCATED IN CIP AND IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND GIVE US SOME IDEAS ON HOW YOU

MIGHT FILL THE GAP? >> I THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE OF WAYS TO FILL THE GAP IF THEY CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD. WE WILL TALK TO EACH OF YOU ABOUT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT NEXT-DOOR , WHICH IS 80% FUNDED BY THE DEPARTMENT AND NOT ENOUGH MONEY IN THEIR RESERVE ACCOUNT TO FUND THE BUILDING, SO WE ARE FINDING THAT PART OF OUT OF THE CIP , SO AS THE REVENUE COMES INTO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, IT WILL PAY THE CIP BACK TO MAKE THE REST OF THE 80% , SO THAT'S ABOUT $3 MILLION THAT YOU WILL HAVE A REVENUE COMING BACK INTO CIP OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. WE DO KNOW THAT THERE IS POTENTIAL REDUCTIONS THAT WE WILL LOOK AT IN THE BUILDING. KAREN CAN ELABORATE MORE ON THOSE AND WE HAVE ALREADY HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS. WE KNOW THAT THE NEXT ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BID IS A LETTER OF INTENT FROM ELLEN YOU FOR $1 MILLION. THERE ARE SOME OTHER PROJECTS WILL

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FROM A CIP STANDPOINT, YOU HAVE REVENUE STREAMS COMING BACK TO MAKE THE DEFICIT IT SO CHOSE WITHOUT HAVING TO SACRIFICE AN EXISTING PROJECT. WE MAY HAVE TO DO SOME ROOM MANEUVERING .

AS I LOOK BACK, WE WILL HAVE TO DO MANEUVERING. THAT IS HOW I WOULD RECOMMEND IT . IF IT PLEASES THE BOARD AND IF KAREN COULD GO THROUGH SOME STUFF THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AS FAR AS SAVINGS ON THE PROJECT AND I THINK THAT ME GIVE INSIGHT . IT WOULD BE ROUGHLY ANOTHER $1 MILLION IF IT PLEASES THE

BOARD. >> SURE. GO AHEAD.

>> LOOKING OVER THE PROJECT WAS STAFF AGAIN AND WE KNOW THAT WE WOULD IMPLEMENT THE PURCHASE PROGRAM THAT WAS ALREADY IN THE BID THAT WE WOULD BE CONSIDERING AND WE DO THAT ON ALL OF OUR LARGE PROJECTS LATELY AS AN EXAMPLE , SO THAT COULD ROUGHLY BRING IN $300,000 IN SAVINGS AND WE DID IT ON THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND RENOVATION IN FLEMING ISLAND AND FIRE STATION, FOR EXAMPLE. ON A DIRECT PURCHASE, WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME FINISHINGS THE FLOORS AND STUFF WITHIN THE BUILDING WHERE WE COULD DO SOME REVIEW WITH THE AWARDED CONTRACTOR AND LOOK AT SOME VALUE ENGINEERING FOR THOSE THINGS . THE FLOORING AND POLISHING ON THE FLOORING .

LOOK AT MINIMIZING THE PORT AS PART OF THE PROJECT AND COMPLETING THAT IS AT A LATER DATE AND NOT AS PART OF THE INITIAL PROJECT. THOSE ARE THINGS . IT IS BASICALLY VALUED ENGINEERING PROJECT ONCE WE ARE UNDER CONTRACT AND CONSTRUCTION

HAS STARTED. >> I ASKED THIS EARLIER.

PROBABLY HERE AND PROBABLY NOT WATCHING IN THE ROOM, BUT HE SHARED THAT THIS PARTICULAR LOPID CONTRACTOR HAS DONE SOME OF THAT WORK WITH THE OTHER PROJECTS. I THINK HE SAID THEY DID A CHANGE OUT THAT MET CODE, BUT WASN'T AS EXPENSIVE AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT ELSE HE SAID.

>> LOOKING AT SOME REFERENCES AND CALLING RIVERS , THEY DID THE SIMILAR THING AND THEY WERE THE CONTRACTOR ON THAT PROJECT . THERE A GOOD CONTRACTOR BASED ON REFERENCES AND DID INDICAT THAT THEY DID SOME COST SAVINGS ONCE THEY WERE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND WE KNOW FOR A FACT ON OUR COUNTY PROJECT THEY

DID THE SAME. >> I DON'T WANT TO JUMP IN FRONT OF ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS QUESTIONS . FOR ME, THE ANIMAL SHELTER FALLS UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY . OUR OBLIGATION TO FULFILL PUBLIC SAFETY AS WE TALK ABOUT A LOT, THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE MOVING TO CLAY COUNTY AND A LOT HAVE ANIMALS.

I FEEL LIKE IF ANY OF YOU -- NOT OLD ENOUGH, BUT IF YOU REMEMBER THAT BOB BARKER IS TO CLOSE EVERY PRICE IS RIGHT TO HAVE YOUR PET SPAYED OR NEUTERED AND I THINK WE NEED TO AND EVERY COMMISSION MEETING THAT WE NOW, BUT PEOPLE ARE DOING THAT. THEY STILL HAVE ANIMALS AND WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO CARE FOR THEM. I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE BEEN HONORED AS MUCH AS WE CAN A NO KILL SHELTER AND IF AN ANIMAL IS SO INJURED , THEN OBVIOUSLY THAT IS THE MORE HUMANE THING TO DO . THAT IS THE CASE, BUT I DON'T WANT US TO GO BACK TO BEING A KILL SHELTER AND I DON'T WANT US TO GO BACK TO HAVING OVERLOADS AND I KNOW YOU SEE IT, TOO. FROM BEFORE I WAS ON THE BOARD , THIS HAS BEEN A DISCUSSION. IT HAS BEEN BUDGETED OUT . OBVIOUSLY, THE PRICE HAS GONE UP , BUT IT'S LONG OVERDUE. WE JUST HAD TO MOVE THE ANIMALS FOR THE LAST HURRICANE , SO THAT WE COULD MAKE SURE THEY WERE SAFE AND OUR STAFF WAS SAFE . I DO CARE ABOUT WHAT THE STAFF THINKS, TOO. I WANTED TO HAVE SUFFICIENT WORKING ENVIRONMENT

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>> I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CONDON. IT TAKES ON A DIFFERENT IMPORTANCE. YES, WE CARE ABOUT THE DOGS AND CATS , WHICH IS PART OF IT, BUT I THINK IT'S MORE THAN THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW AS A COUNTY AT 237,000 WITH A CERTAIN PERCENT OF ANIMALS THAT COME ALONG WITH THOSE PEOPLE . AN ARTICLE THAT I READ THE OTHER DAY SAID IN THE LAST 10 YEARS WITH THE WAY PEOPLE TREAT THEIR PETS AND THINK OF THEIR PETS IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN IT HAD BEFORE THAT IN A SENSE THAT THEY BECOME PART OF THE FAMILY AND NOT JUST A PET ANY LONGER. THAT MEANS THERE WILL BE MORE . THE BOTTOM LINE IS WHERE WE ARE NOW IS UNATTAINABLE. IT WAS UNATTAINABLE YEARS AGO. ONE OF MY PROMISES IS TO SEE THROUGH TO BUILD AN ANIMAL CONTROL SHELTER AND THE TIME IS NOW. IT HAS NEVER BEEN MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE DO IT NOW, BECAUSE THIS IS HOW SHOT AT IT. THE KIND OF MONEY THAT ARE BEING ASKED FOR IN OTHER PROJECTS, SO CONSEQUENTIALLY WE LOOK AT THE COSTS AND IT'S NOT THAT OUTRAGEOUS WHEN YOU SEE THAT THEY ARE BUILDING ALMOST THE EXACT SAME SHELTER SIZE WISE FOR $22.5 MILLION. IT IS NOT AS IF WE ARE OVERPAYING AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THEY BUILT A NEW SHELTER AND IT DIDN'T COME ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THE SIZE THAT WE HAVE , BUT A LOT OF THEM TO ATTRACT OVER 200 VOLUNTEERS TO WORK IN THE SHELTER TO BE ABLE TO HELP AND I THINK THEY HAVE AS MANY AS NINE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES , SO JUST IMAGINE WHAT THEY COULD DO WITH 200 VOLUNTEERS OUT THERE HELPING OUT AND IT COULD WORK THAT WAY. I KNOW THIS IS GEORGIA AND I KNOW I'M IN FLORIDA AND THEY'RE GOING TO REFERENCE THIS AT SOME POINT , BUT FULTON COUNTY IS SPENDING $40 MILLION OF ON A 50,000 SQUARE FOOT BRAND-NEW ANIMAL SHELTER. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT IN TERMS OF OUR SQUARE FOOTAGE BASIS AND COST , THEN WE ARE RIGHT THERE. IT'S NOT AS IF WE ARE OVERPAYING FOR SOMETHING, BUT IT'S THE GOING RATE. THIS IS A STUDY THAT WAS DONE IN 2023 IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA . THE SHELTERED ANIMAL INTAKE WAS 15.8 PER 1000 RESIDENTS. WE HAVE TO HUNDRED 37 -- 237,000 RESIDENTS WERE TAKING IN 15.8 ANIMALS FOR EVERY 1000. FIGURE THAT OUT. IS IT A LOT OF MONEY? YEAH, IT IS. HAS IT BEEN ENGINEERED AS IT IS BEING DESIGNED? YES. WE STARTED TO HAVE IT DESIGNED AND WORKED ON . AS THEY WERE DESIGNING IT , THEY WERE TRYING TO ENGINEER IT TO GIVE US THE LEAST COST THAT WE COULD GET AND WE HAVE DONE AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO TRIM IT. IT IS A QUESTION OF THE BOARD HAS INTEREST IN MOVING FORWARD AND SEEING AS THOUGH THIS IS THE LAST EFFORT BY THE OLD COMMISSIONER AND CERTAINLY I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE DONE. IT WILL HAVE TO LAST ASKED 50 TO 60 YEARS JUST LIKE THE LAST ONE LASTED, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED . HONESTLY , BRINGS UP THE FACT THAT PART OF IT IS SEEKING SOMEWHERE AND WE HAVE TO SINK MORE MONEY INTO IT.

I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THAT IS WORTH IT AT THAT POINT BASED ON THE FACT THAT EVERY TIME WE HAVE A STORM BREWING UP, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HAS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO TAKE A COUPLE HUNDRED ANIMALS AND FIGURE OUT WHERE TO PUT THEM. FROM THAT STANDPOINT , FULLY IN FAVOR OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT .

LET'S FACE IT, WE HAVE A PARTNER TO WORK WITH THE , WHICH IS GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL FOR NOT ONLY THEM, BUT US.

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>> I WILL TAKE CHAIRMAN PRIVILEGE HERE. WE HAVE ANOTHER AND PATRICIA WATLEY IS HERE. THIS ISN'T A PUBLIC OPINION

TYPE THING . >> SORRY. I THINK MOST OF YOU GOT AN EMAIL FROM ME YESTERDAY IN REFERENCE TO THIS WHEN I FOUND OUT THIS HAPPENED TODAY. I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH AS VOLUNTEER AND I HAVE A FULL-TIME JOB WITH FULL-TIME COLLEGE AND KIDS. I DON'T HAVE TIME TO VOLUNTEER FOR THAT, BUT I WAS OUT THERE LAST WEEK AND TWO WEEKS AGO WALKING THEM AND PUTTING THEM IN CANALS AND MOVING THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT I DO TNR AT MY DAY CARE WHERE KIDS GO, BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T FEED THEM OR TAKE CARE OF THEM. WE HAVE CATS EVERYWHERE. AGAIN, TO YOUR POINT, IN 2021 THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, $10 MILLION TO BUILD AT THAT TIME. WE ARE THREE YEARS LATER AND IT'S DOUBLE. IT WILL NOT GET CHEAPER . IT WILL ABSOLUTELY NOT GET ANY CHEAPER. IT IS NOT FAIR TO THE PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE. I DROP OFF CATS AND THEY ARE IN CLOSED CORNERS AND EVEN THE FRONT OFFICE. IF YOU WALK OUT AND LOOK AT THE FRONT OFFICE TO THE PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE, THEY DON'T HAVE PRIVACY AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING. IT FLOODS ON TOP OF THAT. THE SIMPLE FACT THAT I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN BRADFORD COUNTY. I HAVE LIVED IN CLAY COUNTY FOR 30 YEARS AND I HAVE WATCHED THE GROWTH THAT WE HAVE HAD AND I APPRECIATE THE GROWTH. I'M NOT ONE TO SAY STOP THE GROWTH. WE WILL GROW AND GOOD OR BAD IT WILL HAPPEN.

I WOULD PREFER IT TO BE BETTER. IN THAT, YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT WE ARE ALSO GOING TO HAVE THESE THINGS THAT COME UP AND WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE. WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GROW OR STOP SOME GROWTH, BECAUSE WE CANNOT BE DEUEL COUNTY WHERE WE ARE TURNING ANIMALS AWAY. PUT THEM BACK IN THE STREET. I THINK THAT IS WHAT THEY TELL THEM. THEY ARE SO OVERWHELMED. WE ARE NOT DOING THAT, BUT AT WHAT POINT DO WE HAVE TO? WE HAVE NO SPACES. EVERY KENNEL IS FULL AND WE HAVE NOWHERE TO PUT THEM. YOU PICK THEM UP AND WHAT WILL YOU DO WITH THEM? ARE YOU GOING TO EUTHANIZE THEM? IT IS PART OF IT. I'M A REALISTIC PERSON AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE , BUT WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO TURN OUR ANIMALS AWAY AND NOT HAVE A FACILITY. SECONDLY, LOCATION. YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT. THAT LOCATION IS LOCATED IN CLAY COUNTY AND NOT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE. ALL OF THE AREAS BEING BUILT, IT IS NOT A CONVENIENT PLACE TO GO TO. WHEN YOU HAVE TO DRIVE FROM MY HOUSE, IT'S 35 MINUTES TO GO THERE. NO ONE IS GOING OUT THERE. YOU CAN BE IN THERE ALL DAY LONG AND IT IS A CONVENIENT LOCATION FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO. 5:00 AND I WORK UNTIL 6:00 MOST DAYS AND SOME DAYS LONGER. YOU HAVE PEOPLE TO GO OUT THERE TO LOOK AT THAT. I CANNOT URGE YOU ENOUGH TO PLEASE APPROVE THIS AND ALL OF THE ANIMALS IN CLAY COUNTY. I CANNOT EXPRESS FOR EVERYBODY IN CLAY COUNTY TO PLEASE DO THIS.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK TAKE EMOTION?

>> MY FAMILY WERE ANIMAL PEOPLE. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU SAID. THIS IS MY DISTRICT. I LOVE ANIMALS AND MY KIDS HAVE VOLUNTEERED JUST LIKE YOU. WE HAVE RESCUED MANY ANIMALS AND MY KIDS WOULD HAVE LIKED TO RESCUE TONS MORE. I DO AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT EVERYONE HAS ALREADY SAID. THERE ARE SO MANY PLACES IN THE COUNTY THAT NEED MONEY. THEY NEED EXPANSIONS AND THERE IS STUFF THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE FOR YEARS AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM. WE HAVE TO SPEAK FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES AND OUR ANIMALS ARE THAT. I DO WANT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY, SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

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>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. I CAN ONLY ADD THAT THIS HAS BEEN A SHORTCOMING IN THE COUNTY ARE PROBABLY A DECADE OR TWO. HERE WE ARE CLEANING IT UP AND LIKE YOU ALLUDE TO, IT DOESN'T GET CHEAPER THE LONGER YOU WAIT. HE WILL FIND THE MONEY TO DO THAT, SO NO PROBLEM.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS , QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? ALL IN

[25.  Lincoln Memorial University Letter of Intent to the Board of County Commissioners for Clay County Animal Services Shelter and Care Facility Naming Rights Sponsorship (G. Biastre/M. Covey)]

THE NEXT ITEM IS LINCOLN MEMORIAL UNIVERSITY LETTER OF INTENT TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER FOR CLAY COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICE SHELTER , WHICH WE JUST APPROVED. GEORGE? THE

MICROPHONE IS YOURS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE LEADER THAT WILL BE GOING IN ON WELLS ROAD AND I'M NOT SURE IF THE BOARD IS 100% FAMILIAR, BUT THEY ARE BUILDING A VETERINARY SCHOOL AND THIS IS SHAPING UP LIKE IT WILL BE A WONDERFUL PARTNERSHIP . LMU IS COMING TO THE TABLE WITH A ONE MILLION-DOLLAR LETTER OF INTENT TO HELP US SUPPORT THE ANIMAL SHELTER . WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I APPRECIATE THIS CRASH COURSE. I AM VERY PLEASED TO BE BRINGING PROBABLY THE 36 COLLEGE OF

VETERINARY MEDICINE IN THE U.S. >> CAN YOU BRING THE MICROPHONE

CLOSER? >> THIS MORNING, WE HAD OUR PROVISION ARE LICENSURE , SO NOW WE CAN ADVERTISE AND LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE EXIST AND DO THAT, SO I'M EXCITED TO PARTNER WITH YOU ALL AND WE WILL BE BRINGING AS PART OF THAT AS WE DEVELOP WITH THAT AND WE WILL BE BRINGING ALL OF OUR STUDENTS THROUGH THE FACILITY TO DO SOME TRAINING , SO THEY WILL HELP WITH ANIMAL CARE AND SOME ACTUAL HANDS-ON TRAINING IN THE SURGICAL PROCEDURES, AS WELL, SO IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM AND APPRECIATE WHAT THE COUNTY IS DOING FOR THEM. THEY ADOPT SO MANY ANIMALS THAT THEY DEAL WITH IN SCHOOLS, SO THE SHELTER WILL BE CLEARED OUT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE OR TAKE MY MONEY

AND RUN. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION AND MAYBE THIS IS NOT A FAIR QUESTION, BUT IT COMES TO MIND.

I KNOW THAT YOU ARE A PRIVATE INSTITUTION, SO IT WILL BE EXPENSIVE TO ATTEND THAT SCHOOL , BUT WILL YOU BE ABLE TO AND AS YOUR STUDENTS ARE IN TRAINING TO PROVIDE LOWER COST VETERINARY SERVICES TO OUR RESIDENTS?

>> WE WORK WITH SOME UNIVERSITIES AND EMPLOY A HIGHLY DISTRIBUTIVE MODEL FOR OUR CLINICAL YEAR OF EDUCATION , SO INSTEAD OF BUILDING A TEACHIG HOSPITAL AND STAFFING IT, WE SEND OUR STUDENTS INTO PRIMARY CARE FACILITIES, SO THAT THEY CAN GET HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE, SO WE APPRECIATE THAT PART OF IT , SO THAT WE DON'T PROVIDE DIRECT SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY. OUR FACULTY WILL PROBABLY BE IN OTHER PLACES AND OFFSET SOME OF THAT AND WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER PRIVATE PRACTICE PARTNERSHIPS PERFORM ANIMAL MEDICINE . YOU HAVE OTHER PEOPLE AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF MEETINGS THIS WEEK TO

GET THAT SITUATED. >> THERE IS A LARGE ANIMAL VET WHO HAS TRIED TO RETIRE FOUR OR FIVE TIMES IN HIS NAME IS DR.

MURRAY, BUT EVERYONE CALLS AND THERE IS NO ONE ELSE TO CALL, BUT HE CAN'T RETIRE, BECAUSE HE HAS TRIED, BUT I DIDN'T

TALK TO HIM FOR SURE. >> OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH LINCOLN FOR PROBABLY TWO YEARS TO MOVE IN THE FACILITY , SO THE POINT I'M TRYING TO BRING UP IS HOW THESE ARE LONG-TERM PROJECTS AND IT IS A REAL BOOM TO THE GATEWAY TO CLAY AND WE WILL TAKE CREDIT FOR IT .

ANYWAY, WE ARE HAPPY TO SEE YOU HERE AND WE WANT TO WELCOME YOU

WITH OPEN ARMS. >> I GUESS I SHOULD MENTION

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PEOPLE TEND TO. >> THAT' REALLY COOL. THANK

YOU SO MUCH. >> THE AGENDA ITEMS TO ACCEPT THE LETTER OF INTENT AND PROVE THE LETTER OF INTENT .

>> MOVED >> SECOND. APPROVE THE LETTER OF INTENT FROM LIBERTY OR LINCOLN MEMORIAL UNIVERSITY.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? ALL IN FAVOR? IT PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND SORRY TO KEEP YOU WAITING

[31.  Discussion of Re-Appointment to the Clay County Board of Adjustments]

[32.  Discussion of Appointments to the Middleburg/Clay Hill Citizens Advisory Committee]

>> WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SPEAK ON THIS?

>> IF IT WOULD PLEASE EVERYONE, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AND REAPPOINT THE FOUR PEOPLE WHO HAVE CURRENTLY SERVED ON IT.

THEY SERVED VERY WELL AND HAVE ATTENDED MEETINGS AND FULFILLED THEIR TERM WELL AND I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE TO DO SEPARATE MOTIONS OR IF I CAN DO THEM ALTOGETHER , BUT I SHOULD PROBABLY DO THEM SEPARATELY, BECAUSE THEY ARE -- WE ARE CURRENTLY AT NINE MEMBERS, SO THOSE FOUR PEOPLE, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO REAPPOINT TO THEIR CURRENT SPOT.

>> WE CAN DO ALL FOUR. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE CYNTHIA MCLAIN, JESSICA POWNALL, SCOTTY TAYLOR AND APRIL WATTS. WE HAVE A MOTION ACE AND SECOND. IT PASSES 4-0.

>> ON OUR APPLICATIONS TO EXPAND TO THE 11 MEMBERS THAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO NOW EXPAND TO, I WOULD NOMINATE BRITNEY AND SAMUAL J. KILGORE TO THOSE, WHICH IS PURELY BASED ON SPOTS

OF VACANCY ON THE MAP. >> OF BRITNEY AND SAMUEL? THAT

IS THE EMOTION? >> THAT IS MY MOTION.

>> MOTION AND SECOND TO APPOINT BRITNEY AND SAMUAL J. KILGORE.

>> ONE NOTE, AND EXPANDING IT TO 11 MEMBERS, ONE OF THEM WILL HAVE THE TERM OF AN EVEN NUMBER AND AN AUDIT, SO THEY WILL BOTH

HAVE THE SAME TERM. >> LET'S ASSIGN THAT TONIGHT.

>> TERESA CAN ASSIGN THAT, BECAUSE SHE MANAGES PEOPLE WELL , SO SHE KEEPS TRACK OF ALL OF THAT. I HAVE NO IDEA HOW IT

NEEDS TO LAYOUT. >> MOTION AND SECOND. IT PASSES

[33.  Discussion of Appointments to the Construction Trades Licensing Board]

HOW MANY DID WE PICK? >> STEVE IS WALKING UP, BUT IN CONNECTION WITH THE, IT IS A FIVE-MEMBER BOARD . IT IS A FIVE-MEMBER BOARD AND YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN ENGINEER, AN ARCHITECT, BUSINESS PERSON , DIVISION I CONTRACTOR AND A

DIVISION II CONTRACTOR. >> THIS BOARD DOESN'T COST ANY MONEY. WITH ALL OF THE MONEY THAT WE SPENT ALL NIGHT, THIS.

>> YOU OWE US 3 MILLION BACK .

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY. I'M WORKING ON IT.

>> NOT REALLY ASK, BUT YOU KNOW.

[04:25:01]

>> NOW, YOU HAVE TO PAY BACK THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

>> SOMETIMES WE WON'T GET AN OFFICE OVER THERE. CAN SIT IN

THE PARKING LOT. >> IF WE DON'T GET GOING, IT

WILL NOT BE THERE SOON ENOUGH. >> I CAN MAKE A MOTION IF

EVERYONE WANTS ME TO? >> I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY KNOWS CAN, BUT HE IS ON THE COUNCIL. HE IS A COUNCILMAN RIGHT NOW AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING. HE IS A GOOD GUY AND A FORMER TEACHER IF YOU DON'T KNOW HIM. EVERYBODY KNOWS JOE WILLIAMS . DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION?

>> I DON'T KNOW HIM, SO IF YOU WANT TO GO WITH THAT AND I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND HOW THERE ARE THREE THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE.

WE NEED THOSE ENGINEER AND ARCHITECT BUSINESS PERSONS. WE ARE THE ONLY ONES IN THE GROUPS THAT APPLY , THEN I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND JOE WIGGINS , SO THAT MAKES THE FIVE, I CAN MOVE THAT WAY. I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THESE PEOPLE EXCEPT JOE

WIGGINS. >> AND CHECKING THAT MOTION.

>> YOU ARE GOING TO GO WITH THE ENGINEER ARCHITECT AND DIVISION

II AND DIVISION I JOE WIGGINS? >> OR ANY OF THE APPLICANTS

PRESENT? >> A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY NAY? PASSES FOUR MINUTES ZERO. WHEN DO YOU PAY

[34.  Juvenile Justice Circuit Advisory Board, 4th Judicial Circuit, per Florida Statutes section 985.664]

THIS MORNING. >> THEY REACHED OUT TO US WANTING TO KNOW, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A MEETING COMING UP. DO YOU WANT TO PUT ONE OF US IN CONTACT? WAS SHE GOING TO GIVE US -- WE NEED TO SUBMIT IT, BECAUSE ON THAT FOR YOU HAVE TO

SIGN AND DESIGNATED. >> HOW DO WE DO THIS? SHE HASN'T FILLED OUT THE FORM THAT I KNOW OF.

>> IF YOU WANT THE BOARD TO AGREE THAT SHE WOULD BE THE DESIGNEE AND MAYBE IF YOU HAVE AN ALTERNATE IF SHE DECIDES

THAT SHE DOESN'T WANT TO ? >> DO WE HAVE AN ALTERNATE?

>> I'M HAPPY TO VOLUNTEER . I'M HAPPY TO VOLUNTEER IN THE EVENT THAT SHE DOES NOT , THEN I WOULD PROBABLY LOOK FOR A

DESIGNEE . >> WE HAVE A MOTION FOR PAM AND ALEXANDER . ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? ALL IN FAVOR? PASSES FOUR MINUTES ZERO. WE HAD AN OPENING FOR THE COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER . WE WILL MOVE ONTO PUBLIC COMMENTS. I WILL OPEN THE SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. I HAVE NO FURTHER CARDS AND I'M HEARING CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND -

[CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS]

ATTORNEY? >> WHAT ABOUT THE

CONSTITUTIONAL? CLERK? >> WE WILL JUST GO WITH THE

FLOW. >> I KNOW EVERYONE IS TIRED, SO I WILL BE BRIEF. UPDATE ON THE INVESTMENTS. AS YOU KNOW, WE STARTED AN INVESTMENT STRATEGY OF WHICH THIS PAST YEAR ACTUALLY PERFORMED VERY WELL GIVEN THE MARKET. THIS IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE 2020 BOND SERIOUS PROCEEDS, SO BASICALLY WHERE WE ARE AT TODAY IS THE FIRST THREE YEARS WITH ANY INTEREST EARNINGS OR WHAT WE MADE ON THE INVESTMENTS, WE HAD A GRACE PERIOD AS IT RELATES TO ARBITRAGE AND IRS

[04:30:04]

THAT WE MAKE? >> SORRY TO MAKING YOU WAIT .

>> MY HEART WILL BE TOMORROW. >> COUNTY ATTORNEY?

[COUNTY ATTORNEY]

>> WE HAVE ONE UP FOR REQUEST AND SPECIFIC WAY IN CONNECTION WITH CHAPTER 12 ARTICLE THREE NOTED ON THE AGENDA WHERE WE WOULD REQUEST THAT THE BOARD SUSPEND ENFORCEMENT OF ARTICLE THREE AT THIS TIME TO PROVIDE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT.

THAT IS WITH RESPECT TO THE ENFORCEMENT OF IT AND WE WOULD SEEK TO HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT PURSUE ENFORCEMENT PURSUING FLORIDA STATUTES THAT RELATE TO PEDESTRIANS RIGHT AWAY.

>> I WILL MAKE THE MOTION. >> MOTION TO SUSPEND . ALL IN

FAVOR? IT PASSES 4-0. >> NOTHING FURTHER.

[COUNTY MANAGER]

>> NOTHING FURTHER? GREAT. >> CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS, YOU EACH RECEIVED A HANDOUT FOR EVENTS HAPPENING HERE AS HALLOWEEN QUICKLY APPROACHES HERE IN THE MONTH OF OVER AND FOLLOW ON EVENTS IN NOVEMBER AND NOTICE OW ALL OF THEM ARE AT THE SPOTLIGHT THEATER AND SOME REALLY NEAT ONES . I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THREE MAIN ONES THAT ARE UPCOMING IN THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER. FIRST OF ALL, WAS RESCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 2ND , SO PRESENTED BY BAPTIST MEDICAL CENTER AND IT WILL BE AT THE CLAY COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS IN THE QUIET TIME IS 9:00 TO 11:00. AGAIN, AT THE CLAY COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS FOR THE FIRST 1000 PEOPLE WHO RECEIVED A BAG OF GOODIES. NEXT UP, OUR FIRST ANNUAL EVENT FOR THIS . THE CLAY COUNTY VETERANS DAY WEEKEND , WHICH WILL OCCUR AT THE COMMUNITY PARK ON SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 9TH 8:00 TO 3:00 AND WE WILL HAVE A RUN THAT CHECKS

[04:35:05]

AND, STAY FOR LUNCH FOR THE WORLD WAR II PRICES AND THERE IS A LIMITED EDITION T-SHIRT FOR 100 VETERANS THAT ARE THERE . AGAIN, FOR MORE INFORMATION, YOU CAN CALL THE MUSEUM AT 904 6231 96. YES, YOU MAY SEE SOME FAMILIAR FACES FLIPPING BURGERS OUT THERE THAT DAY. PENDING ANY QUESTIONS, THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

>> DID YOU GET A NEW APRON? >> I CAN'T FIND THE APRON.

>> I HAVE ONE. BASED ON THE CALENDAR AND I BELIEVE THAT IS ON MONDAY AND NOT TUESDAY. THE THING SAYS TUESDAY. IT IS

MONDAY. GOOD CALL. THANK YOU. >> GOT IT.

[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY MOVED HIM UP FROM HOTDOGS TO

HAMBURGERS. >> YOU ARE MOVING ON UP. I THINK I JUST HAVE ONE THING TO BRING TO YOU TONIGHT, WHICH IS ALL I CAN REMEMBER. IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING. I HAVE A COPY FOR ALL OF YOU OF SOME LANGUAGE AND IF YOU WANT TO PASS IT DOWN. IN APRIL 2010 , THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HEARD A POLICY THAT BASICALLY SAYS THAT IF A STRUCTURE ON A PARCEL NEEDS TO BE REPLACED OR REBUILT, THEN IT HAS TO BE OF THE SAME SIZE. THEY NEVER CODIFIED THAT , BUT IT HAS BEEN THE POLICY OF THE BOARD PASSED BY THE BOARD IN 2010 AND IT HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED SINCE THEN. FOR THE PAST 14 YEARS, THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE. I FEEL LIKE IT HAD BEEN A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. ONE OF MY CONSTITUENTS CONTACTED ME .

THE TIMING IS IMPORTANT. AT THE TIME THAT THIS WAS GOING INTO PLACE , THE FATHER OR FATHER-IN-LAW OF THE FAMILY THAT CONTACTED ME , THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF A LEASE PURCHASE ON A PROPERTY THAT IS NOT FAR FROM THE HUNTER DOUGLAS PARK THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER TONIGHT.

IT IS ON ONE ACRE AND IS A MOBILE HOME. IT IS A VERY SMALL MOBILE HOME . IT DOES NOT MEET THE MINIMUM BUILDING STANDARDS IN CLAY COUNTY. HE PURCHASED THE HOME FROM THE PEOPLE HE RENTED IT FROM . IN 2011, HE TOOK TITLE TO IT NOT KNOWING THAT AT THAT POINT THE POLICY CHANGED TO THE BOARD AND IF HE EVER WANTS TO REPLACE THE MOBILE HOME, HE CANNOT REPLACE IT WITH ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT IT IS AND IT IS LIKE 600 SOMETHING SQUARE FEET. AT ANY RATE, THAT IS WHEN I STARTED WORKING WITH CHARISSE AND MIKE BROWN. THEY TOOK A LOOK AT THE POLICY WITH COURTNEY AND THEY CAME UP WITH HOW EVERYONE AGREES THAT OUR LANGUAGE IS NOT APPROPRIATE. IT MAKES SENSE IN PLACE LIKE A TRAILER PARK OR IN A VERY CONGESTED AREA WITH SMALL LOTS , BUT THIS SITS ON ONE ACRE , SO CAME UP WITH NEW POLICY LANGUAGE THAT WOULD REPLACE IT AT BASICALLY SAYS THAT PARCELS CREATED PRIOR TO OCTOBER 22ND 2024 ON WHICH A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME OR MOBILE HOME HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED OR PLACED ON THE SITE BASED UPON THE ISSUANCE OF A VALID BUILDING PERMIT BY CLAY COUNTY SHALL BE ALLOWED TO REPLACE THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME OR MOBILE HOME CONSTITUTION WITH THE MINIMUM SETBACKS AND IN THE ZONING DISTRICT , WHICH THE PARCEL IS LOCATED. IF THEY MEET OUR BUILDING CODES, THEN THEY CAN PUT WHATEVER SIZE IS APPROPRIATE ON THERE. IF YOU

[04:40:01]

FURTHER . >> FORTHCOMING.

>> I AM HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

>> OR WANT MORE INFORMATION . >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS

WAS EVER WRITTEN THIS WAY. >> WAS ACTUALLY IN THE BOARD WHEN WE DID THIS. YOU HAVE FOLKS OVER TIME . THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE HAD AND WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE AND THEY ACTUALLY SENT US TODAY I THINK IT WAS. IT'S THEIR NEW UPDATED DOCUMENT, BECAUSE WE ASKED THEM TO ADD A DISCLAIMER. HERE IS WHAT HAPPENS. SOMEONE WILL GO TO THE SECOND FLOOR AND ASK PROPERTY APPRAISERS TO BREAK UP THEIR PARCELS, SO IF THEY HAVE A FIVE ACRE PARCEL, THEN A ONE ACRE PARCEL. THERE IS NO LANGUAGE CURRENTLY IN THOSE DOCUMENTS THAT THEY CAN PLEAD. CHECK WITH THE THIRD FLOOR BEFORE YOU DO THIS AND YOU MAY BE MAKING ALL OF THEM NON-BUILDABLE, A.K.A. NON-CAN REMAIN LOTS, BECAUSE IT DOES NOT ALLOW IT TO BE. THE DISCLAIMER THAT SAYS THE LAST PART OF THE STATEMENT SAYS THAT YOU NEED TO CHECK WITH ZONING, BECAUSE YOUR LOT MAY NOT BE BUILDABLE. MOSTLY IN THE RURAL PARTS OF THE COUNTY, WE HAVE NONCONFORMING LOTS THAT WERE DONE WAY BACK WHEN AFTER 91 . THEY HAD MOBILE HOMES ON THE OR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THEM , LIKE THE FOLKS HERE TONIGHT , SO WHEN THEY TRIED TO GET A NEW PERMIT OR GET SOMETHING NEW, AND BASIC OUR COACH SAID THAT IF IT IS NONCONFORMING, THEN YOU CAN DO ANYTHING WITH IT. THESE FOLKS WHO ALREADY HAVE A HOME ON THE LOTS PRIOR TO 2010 WHEN WE MADE THE POLICY COULD NOT DO IT. WE MADE THAT POLICY AND MADE IT THE REPLACEMENT POLICY AND SAID PER SQUARE FOOTAGE OF WHAT IS EXISTING, BECAUSE IT IS A NON-CONFORMING LOT. THE COMMENTS CITED IN THIS ONE PARTICULARLY. THEY DON'T EVEN MAKE MOBILE HOMES IN SOME SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THAT SMALL ANYMORE, SO YOU CAN'T DO A REPLACEMENT. WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THE RIGHT ANSWER . AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE LOT IS ALREADY NONCONFORMING AND IT WILL REMAIN NONCONFORMING UNLESS THEY ADD ACREAGE TO IT. WHY DON'T WE ALLOW THEM TO DO WHATEVER THE ZONING CODE ALLOWS BY MEETING SETBACKS AND MINIMUM LOT SIZES , SUCH AS THE MINIMUM HOUSE SIZES AND 750 SQUARE FOOT. LET THEM JUST ABIDE BY THE ZONING CODE OF EACH AREAS THAT ARE TRYING TO REPLACE THEM. A LOT OF TIMES TODAY , A LOT OF FOLKS IF THERE ON A NONCONFORMING , THEN ADD AN OLDER MOBILE HOME, THEY MAY WANT TO BUILD, WHICH IS BETTER FOR TAX PURPOSES, SAFETY AND ALL OF THAT GOOD STUFF. WE PUT TODAY'S DATE ON IT TO CODIFY THAT . NOW, WE ARE CATCHING PEOPLE BETWEEN NOW AND 2024. WHAT WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TAKING THESE AND I CAN GO AHEAD AND RECLINE INTO NONCONFORMING LOTS AND THIS POLICY AND CODE WOULD SAVE ME, SO THAT IS WHY WE CODIFIED IT. HOPEFULLY IT MADE SENSE TO YOU.

>> MY MOTION IS TO APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, SO WE CAN MAKE AN

[04:45:07]

. >> IS THIS A NONCONFORMING LOT?

>> YES, THIS IS. IN THAT PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD , THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS FIVE ACRES. THE PEOPLE THAT HE PURCHASED THIS FIRM AND WAS LEASING FROM ALL AROUND HIM AND THEY STILL ON THIS PROPERTY AND LIVE THERE. THEY HAD A MOBILE HOME AND HE MOVED INTO THE MOBILE HOME AND THEY DID A PURCHASE WITH HIM. AT THE TIME THAT IT HAPPENED , HE PURCHASED WHAT WAS PROBABLY CREATED FROM ONE OF THE ERRORS.

>> IT WAS A NONCONFORMING LOT WHEN HE BOUGHT IT, BUT THE

HOUSE WAS ALREADY ON IT. >> IT'S ODD TO THINK OF A NONCONFORMING , BUT I GET IT. AS FAR AS EVERYTHING ELSE BEING FIVE ACRES. THAT IS MY MOTION, WHICH IS THAT WE APPROVE THE POLICY CHANGE TONIGHT AND I HALF STAFF MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT CODE ADVERTISEMENT.

>> DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? >> I ALWAYS HAVE A COMMENT.

SOMETIMES YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO HEAR THEM. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS AND I THINK IT'S LONG OVERDUE. I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THE PROCESS . IT IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE, BUT WE ARE MAKING AN EXCEPTION AND BACKTRACKING TO MAKING IT AVAILABLE FOR EVERYONE ELSE. WHAT HAPPENS IF I GET A CALL TOMORROW? I DOUBT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN IN THE FUTURE. I WISH THAT COMMISSIONER COMMENTS WERE TO BRING THINGS UP AND OPPOSE SOMETHING, SO THAT YOU CAN SIT AND THINK ABOUT THIS. IT IS IN REGARDS TO THINKING -- THE PEOPLE CAN SLIP INTO THAT. I HAVE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE THEY WAITED ON THINGS, BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO BRING IT UP AND STATING THAT WE ARE GOING TO VOTE ON IT. I THOUGHT IT'S BEEN INTRODUCED AND IT GETS THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD, THEN WE MOVE IT ONTO THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT TIME . I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE A LARGE CRY FOR PEOPLE COMING FORWARD . I'M TORN ABOUT USING THE WORDS, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT THAT WE ARE CHANGING POLICY AND BACKTRACK TO PUT IN PLACE FOR

EVERYONE EFFICIENTLY. >> I THOUGHT THAT WE UNDERSTOOD AND TREATED IN THE POLICY THAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE TODAY AND THEY ARE USING THIS POLICY TODAY DOWNSTAIRS , SO WE WOULD JUST BE CHANGING THE POLICY THAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY USING

FOR EVERYONE . >> THAT'S FINE.

>> I HAVE NO OTHER MECHANISM TO GET IT ON THE AGENDA.

>> I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT THE LANGUAGE IS PROBABLY BETTER THAN THE LANGUAGE WE USED IN 2010. IT HAS BEEN 14 YEARS. WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS AND LOOK AT THEIR WEBSITE TO GET THE ACCURATE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE REPLACEMENTS. TO UPDATE IT AND SAY THAT IT IS A NONCONFORMING LOT, THEN YOU CAN BUILD AS LONG AS YOU ARE MEETING THE STANDARDS OF THE ZONING CODE, WHICH MAKES IT MUCH CLEANER AND

CRISPER. >> I HAVE NO PROBLEM IN WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO. I THINK IT'S FINE. I WAS A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT HOW WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH A ONE-OFF, BUT IF IT APPLIES TO ANYBODY THAT COMES IN.

>> IT APPLIES WITH A NONCONFORMING LOT.

>> NOW, WE ARE GOING BACK TO ADVERTISING AND NOT THAT I THINK ANYBODY WILL HAVE AN EXCEPTION TO PUBLIC HEARING.

>> ADVOCATES GOING BACK AND I'M NOT TRYING TO ARGUE WITH

YOU. >> WELL, YOU ARE.

>> THE POLICY WILL GO AWAY. THIS POLICY AT SOME POINT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT TO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OR NOT. WE WILL PUT IT INTO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT. I GUESS I COULD

[04:50:01]

BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE. >> NO QUESTION.

>> I GUESS TO PILE IT ON , WE TALKED ABOUT THIS POLICY CHANGE THAT DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS A NONCONFORMING LOT.

>> THAT IS SO THE REPLACEMENT POLICY IS FOR THE NONCONFORMING LOTS. EVERYONE ELSE HAS TO ABIDE BY THE CODE.

>> IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, IF THE POLICY CHANGE IS NOT MADE, THEN THEY ARE STUCK WITH WHAT THEY HAVE.

>> IT'S NOT ON THE MARKET TODAY. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A

12 BY SIX. >> THE ONE THAT WAS THERE FOR 600 SOMETHING SQUARE FEET. YOU CAN'T GET THEM THAT LITTLE

ANYMORE. >> THE NEW LANGUAGE DOES ALLOW FOR THEM FOR A LOT OF FOLKS AND PROBABLY LIKE THIS GENTLEMAN WHO BOUGHT WHAT HE COULD AFFORD BACK IN THE DAY AND NOW HE CAN AFFORD A MORE, SO AS LONG AS IT MEETS THE ZONING CODE, THEN I THINK IT'S BETTER FOR EVERYBODY TO BUILD OR HAVE A BETTER MOBILE HOME MOVED ON THERE.

>> I GUESS WE NEED A MOTION TO CHANGE POLICY WITH THE STIPULATION . I WAS WITH THE MOTION I MADE. TONIGHT ADD? THINK IT ACCURATE THE SENTIMENTS. I DO IN FACT ECHO CONCERN HERE AND I JUST SAW A FEW WEEKS AGO HOW THIS COMMISSION UNIFORMLY VOTE DOWN A PROJECT, BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING PAPERWORK THE SAME DAY AND WE HAD THE PAPERWORK PRESENTED TO US A COUPLE OF HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING, SO THIS HAVING BEEN PRESENTED TO ME 10 MINUTES AGO AND I'M HAVING TO VOTE ON IT MAKES IT VERY UNCOMFORTABLE . NOT ONLY DOES IT MAKE ME UNCOMFORTABLE , BUT IN MY PRIVATE PRACTICE EXPERIENCE , I AM UNCOMFORTABLE WITH DOING THIS AND I DO NOT WANT TO BE MISUNDERSTOOD. THIS IS A DECISION THAT WILL RECTIFY A WRONG. I THINK THE CONVERSATION KEEPS TURNING ON THE NEED RATHER THAN THE PROCESS TO ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL . FOR ME, IF I WERE TO HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS HAVING SEEN IT 10 OR 15 MINUTES AGO , IT'S A NO ON PRINCIPLE AND NOT OUTCOME.

PUT IN THAT PREDICAMENT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE AND I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO GET TO VOTE ON DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR THE RIGHT REASON, BUT I'M HAVING TO VOTE NO ON PRINCIPLE AND POLICY. I REALLY WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE SEEN THIS SOONER, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH THE REASONS AS TO WHY WE HAVE TO DO IT. YOU ARE ASKING ME TO DIGEST INFORMATION AND TO MAKE IT PREDICATED ON THE DETAILS PRESENTED IN REAL TIME. I AM UNCOMFORTABLE DOING THAT. WHILE I AGREE WITH THE OUTCOME , IF I SAY YESTERDAY, THAT I VOTED INCONSISTENTLY ON A PROJECT IN MY OWN DISTRICT THAT HAPPENED A FEW WEEKS AGO AND I CAN'T IN GOOD CONSCIENCE DO THAT , SO IT'S NOT A NO ON WANTING TO DO THIS IN THE FUTURE, BUT HAVING TO DO IT UNDER THESE

CIRCUMSTANCES. >> WHAT'S THE HARM IN KICKING

IT TO NEXT MEETING? >> I'M IN A VERY UNCOMFORTABLE DECISION POSITION, BECAUSE I WAS DIRECTED TO BRING IT THIS WAY AND I'M NOT UPSET WITH STAFF . I HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR WEEKS. THIS CONSTITUENT HAS BEEN WAITING. THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH MIKE BROWN FOR WEEKS AND I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA. I HAD THIS LANGUAGE A DAY OR TWO AGO, BUT I CAN'T SEND IT TO YOU ALL BECAUSE OF THE SUNSHINE. I'M NOT TRYING TO BE A BAD -- I'M NOT TRYING TO HAVE BAD SPORTSMANSHIP THEY FEEL LIKE MY ETHICS ARE UNDER SCRUTINY, BECAUSE OF BRINGING SOMETHING AND SLIGHTING IT IN AT THE LAST MINUTE. MY BRIEF REGIONAL PARK ON THAT THING AND I HAD ABOUT

[04:55:06]

>> WHAT'S THE HARM IN WAITING THREE WEEKS?

>> AS I UNDERSTAND FROM WHAT WE HEARD FROM THESE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAD GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS, PURCHASED THE MOBILE HOME AND DONE ALL OF THAT AHEAD OF TIME AND WITH THE MOBILE HOME MANUFACTURER CAN'T GET THE PERMIT, THEY REALIZED IT WAS A NONCONFORMING LOT , SO HE IS READY TO GO AND HAS A NONCONFORMING LOT AND HAS A MOBILE HOME PURCHASE THAT IS BIGGER THAN THE CURRENT SQUARE FOOT , WHICH THAT REPLACEMENT POLICY CURRENTLY ALLOWS. WE CAN BRING IT BACK , BUT HE HAS THE MOBILE HOME SITTING THERE AND I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG THE MANUFACTURER WILL HOLD IT FOR THAT KIND OF STUFF , BUT WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY ADVERTISING AND ALL OF THAT STUFF TO GET SOMETHING BROUGHT TO YOU IN A CODE FORM. I DON'T HAVE MY CALENDAR WITH ME , BUT PROBABLY JANUARY BEFORE WE COULD GET IT.

>> THE REASON IT WAS BROUGHT THIS WAY AS A POLICY WAS BECAUSE WHEN THE BOARD DID IT WHEN THIS WAS DONE, IT WAS DONE AS A POLICY, BECAUSE IT WAS BACK IN 2012 AND DONE AS A POLICY AND WAS NEVER FOR WHATEVER REASON AND WE WEREN'T HERE, BUT IT WASN'T PUT INTO THE CODE. IT WAS JUST ON A

SHEET IN THE ZONING DEPARTMENT. >> IS THERE A WAY TO GET A POLICY EXCEPTION FOR THIS? IS THERE A WAY THAT I COULD GET A POLICY EXCEPTION FOR MY CONSTITUENT?

>> IT'S NOT PART OF THE CODE , SO IT DOESN'T REQUIRE. THAT WOULD BE A BOARD ACTION. IF YOU JUST WANT TO DO AN EXCEPTION VERSUS REPLACING THE WHOLE POLICY OR CHANGING THE WHOLE POLICY . THOSE ARE ALL OPTIONS, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING. IT'S JUST A POLICY. THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE

BOARD. >> WE HAVE A MOTION, BUT WE

DON'T HAVE A SECOND. >> WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? IF NLY GOOD FOR THIS PARTICULAR AND WE CAN GO BACK ON LDCS TO

DO IT THE RIGHT WAY? >> YOU CAN DO TWO STEPS. YOU COULD CHANGE THE ENTIRE POLICY NEXT MEETING AND STILL DO THE LDC. THE NEXT BOARD MEETING , BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIFTH WEEK, WE HAVE AN EXTRA WEEK TO ADVERTISE.

>> WE HAVE THREE WEEKS. >> WE HAVE TO GO TO PLANNING.

>> THERE'S ONLY ONE IN NOVEMBER?

>> I WASN'T THINKING. WE MISSED THE TIME, SO THIS WOULD HAVE TO GO TO PLANNING IN DECEMBER, THEN BACK FOR THE

CODE PART. >> BY STATUTE, WE HAVE GOT TO ADVERTISE IN ADVERTISING IS 21 DAYS. IT TAKES A WHILE.

>> WE DON'T HAVE TIME AT THIS POINT TO DO THAT AND GO BACK , BUT I'M WILLING TO GO WITH AN EXCEPTION , ALTHOUGH I BROUGHT UP THE IDEA AND I'M NOT TOTALLY COMFORTABLE WITH DOING IT IN THIS FASHION. USUALLY COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT . IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM , BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US MOVE IN A FORMAL SENSE WITH THE WAIVER USUALLY CHANGE THIS, SO WE CAN PASS THE EXCEPTION AND MOVE FORWARD ON SOME KIND OF LDC AND ADVERTISE IT AND DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, THEN I'M WILLING TO GO THAT.

>> I WILL SECOND HIS MOTION . >> I GUESS IT IS NOW. WHAT ARE

THEY GOING TO DO? FIRE ME? >> FOR SOME SPECIFICS, DO YOU HAVE A PARCEL NUMBER OR ADDRESS OR SOMETHING? CAN WE JUST PUT THAT ON THE RECORD , SO THAT WE KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE ARE

ACCEPTING OR EXEMPTING? >> HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE?

[05:00:10]

>> WE CAN BRING IT IN DECEMBER. WE WILL HAVE TIME TO ADVERTISE

IT AND TAKE IT TO PLANNING. >> 4723 DEBBIE ROAD .

>> OKAY. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO CHANGE POLICY WITH THE STIPULATION OF THE INSERTED CODE FOR THE DECEMBER MEETING. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> I THINK WAS MAKING AN EXCEPTION FOR THIS PARTICULAR

ADDRESS , THEN CHANGE THE CODE. >> JUST ONE ADDRESS?

>> DECEMBER YOU GET TO VOTE ON IT WITHOUT ME. THERE YOU GO. IT WON'T REALLY MATTER WHAT I SAY TODAY.

>> WE REALLY GET IN THE SPOT ZONING.

>> THIS IS A POLICY. IT'S JUST A POLICY.

>> IF WE HAVE ANOTHER CONSTITUENT , THEN WE SAY NO?

>> YOU BRING IT BACK THE SAME WAY. IN 14 YEARS, HOW MANY HAVE

THESE COME UP? DO WE KNOW? >> I WOULD SAY FIVE OR SIX.

>> SHE SAID FIVE OR SIX. IN MY FOUR YEARS, THIS IS MY FIRST.

>> THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? THIS PASSES 3-1.

>> I'M DONE. THANK YOU. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS.

>> YOU DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS?

>> THE COUNTY MANAGER SHARED WHAT MINE WAS FOR NOVEMBER AND WE WILL BE BACK TO WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY THANKSGIVING .

THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA? YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE THIS GOOD. GOT TO LAST ME A LIFETIME THESE LAST

TWO COMMENTS. >> YOU CAN JUST SIT OUT AND RUN

AGAIN. >> IF I HIT MY HEAD ON THE CEMENT FLOOR I MIGHT DO THAT. POLISH THE FLOOR. OUT OF THE KEYSTONE HEIGHTS HIGH SCHOOL THIS PAST SATURDAY, 80 RESIDENTS SERVED BY 80 VOLUNTEERS , WHICH DRAWS A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS SERVING FOLKS WITH ALL KINDS OF SERVICES AND THE NEXT EVENT OUT IS THE CLAY HILL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ON NOVEMBER 16TH, SO HELPING PEOPLE WHO NEED GROCERIES, CLOTHING, HAIRCUT , MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING , MEDICAL SERVICES . THAT IS SOMEPLACE TO SEND THEM, SO THE LIBRARY IS THERE. GIVING OUT BOOKS AND KIDS BOOKS AND BOTH ENDS COVERED THERE AND WE HAVE THE OFFICE THAT'S USUALLY THERE, SO THAT SOMETHING. CLAY HILL NOVEMBER 16TH. EIGHTH ANNUAL PROCUREMENT CONFERENCE IS COMING UP NOVEMBER 7TH AND THIS IS ONE. IT ALL STARTED BECAUSE I ASKED AFTER I GOT ELECTED .

HOW DOES ANYBODY DO BUSINESS WITH CLAY COUNTY? I GOT THAT ON A CAMPING TRAIL TO START THIS PARTICULAR EVENT. IT IS $10 PER PERSON. 100 REGISTRATIONS SO FAR, WHICH IS THE ALL-TIME HIGH AND WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF AGENCIES AND THERE IS A GOOD PROGRAM AS TO HOW YOU CAN DO BUSINESS . WE HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS OR BIG BUSINESS THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE PART, THAT IS COMING UP. I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP WHEN THE GUYS FROM FCC WERE HERE. I GOT TWO EMAILS. ONE FROM BRIAN WHO SAID THAT THE PICKUPS HAVE BEEN FLAWLESS , SO THAT IS UNSOLICITED. ALSO UNSOLICITED FROM BARTON BRITE IN ORANGE PARK. IT IS A 32073 Z.I.P. CODE . THE CUL-DE-SACS . THEY DRIVE

[05:05:08]

COMMENTS. THANK YOU. >> I JUST HAVE A FEW. THIS WEEKEND IS A VERY BUSY WEEKEND. ART GUILD GALA, BLUE ANGEL AIR SHOW AND IT'S THE BUSIEST WEEKEND. COUNTY MANAGER AND I SAT ON A REPRESENTATIVE MILITARY ACADEMY SELECTION BOARD ALL DAY YESTERDAY. WE ARE IN GOOD HANDS WITH THE NEW ACADEMY WANNABES . TALKING ABOUT TRASH . IN THAT SELECTION MEETING , WE HAD A RESIDENT WHO SAID THE TRASH WAS PERFECT. HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM. ONE GUY PULLED ME ASIDE AND SAID THAT HE HAS NO PROBLEM . IT IS THE SILENT MAJORITY WHO ARE OUT THERE AND SATISFIED AND YOU CAN HEAR A COUPLE. ANYWAY, TODAY IS OCTOBER 22ND WHERE EARLY VOTING STARTED, WHICH GOES THROUGH NOVEMBER 2ND WITH THE GENERAL ELECTION ON NOVEMBER 5TH. I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GET OUT AND VOTE.

>> CHAIRMAN, SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS ASKED AND IT'S ON HIS FACEBOOK PAGE, BUT IF EVERYONE COULD SHARE THAT. HE WANTED THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT YESTERDAY THE STATES PLATFORM THAT RAN THE ELECTIONS WEBSITE , THE SUPERVISORS WEBSITE FOR THE ELECTION WAS NOT WORKING AND I THINK IT WAS JAMMED WITH SO MANY PEOPLE TRYING TO GET SAMPLE BALLOTS , BUT HE WANTED THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT THE INTEGRITY OF THE ELECTIONS COUNTING BALLOT MACHINES AND ALL OF THAT IS NOT ATTACHED AT ALL AND HAS NOT BEEN COMPROMISED. HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT CONSTITUENTS WORRIED ABOUT ELECTION SECURITY AND

THEY ARE SECURE IN CLAY COUNTY. >> THE STATE WEBSITE HAS BEEN PROBLEMATIC , BUT ELECTION RESULTS HAVE GONE OUT TO FACEBOOK, TWITTER AND ALL OF THAT. IT IS ONE OF YOUR OBLIGATIONS TO VOTE. IF YOU HAVE MAIL-IN BALLOTS, SEND THEM IN

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