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          >>> FIRST I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING HERE TONIGHT. WITHOUT FURTHER ADIEU, 
          DELIVER THE INVOCATION. >> IF YOU WILL RISE AND PRAY WITH ME. GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TODAY. WE THANK YOU THAT WE GET TO LIVE IN THE GREATEST NATION IN THE WORLD AND THE GREATEST COUNTY IN OUR GREAT STATE OF FLORIDA. THAT BLESSING YOU HAVE BESTOWED UPON US DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED. FATHER, I JUST PRAY YOUR HAND WILL BE ON THIS MEETING TODAY AS WE CONDUCT THE BUSINESS OF THE PEOPLE IN THE SUNSHINE THAT WE WOULD MAKE WISE DECISIONS WITH THOUGHTFUL CONVERSATIONS AND RESPECTFUL CIVIL DEBATE. FATHER, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, AND OUR MILITARY AS THEY WORK SO HARD TO KEEP US SAFE AND PROTECT US FROM THE EVILS IN THE WORLD. AND FATHER, I ASK THAT YOU WOULD JUST PUT YOUR HEALING HAND UPON THE TEENAGERS THAT WERE INJURED IN THE CAR ACCIDENT YESTERDAY IN KEYSTONE HEIGHTS THAT THERE WOULD BE HEALING BROUGHT UPON THEM. FATHER, I JUST GIVE YOU THANKS AND PRAISE THAT WE CAN PRAY TO YOU BECAUSE WE HAVE THE FREEDOMS THAT WE HAVE AND THAT WE WON'T TAKE IT FOR GRANTED TO LIVE IN THIS REPUBLIC. I PRAY THESE THINGS IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. 
          >> AMEN. >> THIS EVENING WE'RE HONORED TO HAVE THOMAS HEBERT WITH US. HE'S THE COMMAND MASTER CHIEF IN THE NAVY. HE'S GOING TO DELIVER THE PLEDGE IN A SECOND HERE. BUT HE SERVED 24 YEARS IN THE UNITED STATES NAVY, RETIRING IN 2022. JUST FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, THAT IS THE HIGHEST RATED RANKING THAT YOU COULD GET. COMMAND MASTER CHIEF, HE'S IN CHARE OF THE SQUADRON OR THE COMMAND HE WAS ASSIGNED TO. HE SERVED EARLIER IN HIS CAREER AS AN ELECTRICIAN AND QUALIFIED AS AVIATION WARFARE SPECIALIST. THAT TAKES A LOT ON SHIPS TO GET QUALIFIED IN ALL PHASES OF WARFARE DELIVERY. HE WAS STATIONED IN PENSACOLA, NAVAL STATION NORFOLK, NAVAL BASE VENTURA, CALIFORNIA, JOINT RESERVE BASE FELLOW CHASE, AND THAT WAS LOUISIANA AND THEN JACKSONVILLE, HIS LAST DUTY STATION WITH THE PELICANS. HE JOINED THE MILITARY BECAUSE HE WANTED TO DEFEND OUR COUNTRY. 
          HE LEARNED DIVERSITY IS TRULY OUR HIGHEST GREATEST QUALITY. 
          HIS FAVORITE SERVICE MEMORIES WERE TRAVELING ALL AROUND THE WORLD AND EXPERIENCING OTHER CULTURES. MASTER CHIEF HEBERT IS A DECORATED VETERAN HOLDING MULTIPLE AWARDS, INCLUDING MARINE ACHIEVEMENT MEDALS, NATIONAL DEFENSE, SERVICE MEDAL, GLOBAL WAR ON TERRORISM, SERVICE MEDALS, AND THE NAVY EXPERT PISTOL MEDAL AMONG OTHER AWARDS. HE IS A RESIDENT OF ORANGE PARK AND CURRENTLY WORKS FOR MILLER ELECTRIC DOING VIDEO INTEGRATION WITH SECURITY SYSTEMS, WHICH WE HAVE ONGOING AT OUR COURTHOUSE HERE RIGHT NOW. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SERVICE, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT TO DELIVER THIS PLEDGE. THE MICROPHONE IS YOURS. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          >> THE MICROPHONE IS YOURS. >> THANK YOU ALL FOR INVITING ME TO DO THIS. THE SERVICE WAS WORTH IT TO SEE THIS HAPPEN. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. 
          >> YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          >> I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE AUGUST 27 BOARD OF COUNTY 
          [PET ADOPTIONS]
COMMISSIONERS MEETING HERE. WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL. WE HAVE FIVE COMMISSIONERS PRESENT, AND WE'LL ROLL RIGHT INTO PET 
          ADOPTIONS. >> FIRST UP TODAY IS THE MIXED BREED, 2 YEARS OLD, WEIGHS 44 POUNDS. MEET BARRY. HE'S ALL ABOUT FUN AND HIGH ENERGY WHETHER HE'S WORKING OUT HIS BRAIN WITH TOYS OR HANGING OUT WITH HIS FAVORITE HUMANS, BARRY 
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IS ALWAYS ON THE GO. HE'S DOG FRIENDLY ESPECIALLY WITH CONFIDENT HIGH-ENERGY PLAY MEATS. BUT COULD YOU SOMEHOW LEARN THE ROPES OF THE PROPER PLAY? AND READY TO CONTINUE TRAINING WITH BARRY, HE'S EAGER TO LEARN WITH YOU. AND MEET OSCAR, A CURIOUS PUP WITH A HEART OF AN EXPLORER. HE MAY BE NERVOUS AT FIRST, BUT WITH PATIENCE, HE'LL QUICKLY WARM 
          UP. >> MEET ASTRID, A 7-YEAR-OLD ADVENTURER FOR THE LOVE OF THE GREAT OUTDOORS. THIS INDEPENDENT CAT WOULD MUCH RATHER ROAM, HUNT, AND EXPLORE THAN SETTLE INTO LIFE AS A HOUSE CAT. PERFECT FOR A BARN OR OUTDOOR SETTING. SHE'S READY TO KEEP YOUR SPACE PEST FREE WITH HER NATURAL INSTINCT. IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A FELINE WHO THRIVES ON FREEDOM, ASTRID IS THE PERFECT MATCH. WE ARE STILL IN NEED OF FOSTER PARENTS FOR DOGS, CATS, KITTENS. PLEASE CONSIDER OPENING YOUR HOME TEMPORARILY. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, YOU CAN CONTACT US AT CLAY FOSTERS. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN HELPING OUR FURRY FRIENDS, BUT YOU CAN'T BRING ONE HOME, PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT OUR AMAZON WISH LIST. WE ARE ALWAYS IN NEED OF ITEMS FOR OUR FOSTER KITTENS AND OUR SHELTER ANIMALS. GO TO AMAZON.COM. THAT COMPLETES OUR PET ADOPTIONS. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE ALWAYS HAVE MORE PETS. IF YOU DON'T SEE WHAT YOU WANT THE FIRST TIME, COME BACK. THERE WILL BE SOME NEW ONES THERE. CAN MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS MEET ME DOWN FRONT FOR A SPECIAL PRESENTATION BY THE COUNTY MANAGER. 
          ALL RIGHT. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS. VERY SPECIAL TONIGHT AND A RECOGNITION OF SOMEONE ON THE STAFF HERE. WE HAVE A BEST THAT WILL BE PERFORMING THE CEREMONY AND THE PRESENTATION HERE. HE'S THE ST. AUGUSTINE FIRE CHIEF, CHIEF CARLOS WHO CAME ACROSS TO JOIN US OVER HERE TODAY. I'M GOING TO PASS THAT MIC OVER TO HIM AND HE'LL BE OUR MC FOR THIS SPECIAL RECOGNITION. CHIEF, GOOD TO SEE YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME. MR. CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE TONIGHT. I'VE GOT SOME FOLKS WITH ME IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM. I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME SPECIAL GUESTS THAT ARE ALSO JOINING US VIRTUALLY. 
          SO AS YOU JUST HEARD, I'M THE FIRE CHIEF FOR THE CITY OF ST. 
          AUGUSTINE. BUT TONIGHT I'M HERE IN A DIFFERENT CAPACITY. 
          I'M ALSO ON THE EXECUTIVE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE FIRE CHIEF ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS WHAT BRINGS ME HERE TODAY. I'M JOINED THIS AFTERNOON ONLINE BY FRANK WHO IS THE CITY MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF CORAL SPRINGS AND THE FORMER FIRE CHIEF. THE CURRENT FIRE CHIEF FOR THE CITY OF PARKLAND FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND THE DIVISION CHIEF FOR THEIR SAFETY HEALTH AND WELLNESS PROGRAM, AND ALSO JOINING US VIRTUALLY AS WELL. 
          WE ARE GRATEFUL TO BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON. GRATEFUL TO BE HERE TO SHARE IN THIS PRESENTATION WITH YOU. WITH THAT I'M GOING 
          TO TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I AM THE CURRENT CITY MANAGER WITH THE FIRE CHIEF FOR THE CITY OF CORAL SPRINGS. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE BOARD FOR THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. AND ALL OF THE GREAT AND WONDERFUL STAFF THAT YOU HAVE WORKING THERE. AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO JOIN VIRTUALLY THIS AFTERNOON. BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2020, I HAD A TREMENDOUS HONOR OF BEING THE RECIPIENT WITH THE LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD AND 
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FIREFIGHTER SAFETY AND HEALTH. THIS AWARD IS VERY CLOSE TO MY HEART NOT JUST BECAUSE IT BARES MY NAME, BUT REPRESENTS EXCEPTIONAL ACHIEVEMENT AND SAFETY AND HEALTH FOR THE PUBLIC AND MEMBERS OF THE FIRE SERVICE PROFESSIONAL. THIS AWARD IS RESERVED FOR THOSE FIRE PROFESSIONALS WHO HAVE TRULY MADE AN EXTRAORDINARY IMPACT ON THE PHYSICAL, OVERALL WELL BEING OF THOSE THEY'RE COMMITTED TO SERVE. CHIEF, I'LL 
          TURN IT BACK TO YOU. >> THANK YOU, CHIEF. SO THAT IS EXACTLY WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO RECOGNIZE AND CONGRATULATE THE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS BEEN PROTECTING NOT JUST THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN THAT SERVE CLAY COUNTY, BUT THE CITIZENS AND THE RESIDENTS OF CLAY COUNTY AS WELL. I'M HONORED TO CONGRATULATE CHIEF FOR BEING SELECTED AS THE FLORIDA FIRE CHIEF ASSOCIATION. LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD AND FIREFIGHTER SAFETY AND HEALTH. 
          >> I'VE GOT SOME MORE TO READ OFF FOR YOU. YOU HAVE DEDICATED NEARLY 50 YEARS TO THE FIRE SERVICE. THAT'S ALMOST HALF A CENTURY ON THE UNWAVERING SERVICE. THAT IS NOT JUST A CAREER, BUT THE LIFETIME OF MAKING A DIFFERENCE. AND AS A MEMBER OF THE FLORIDA DOMESTIC SECURITY OVERSIGHT COUNCIL. YOU HELPED SHAPE THE POLICIES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE ANNUAL SUPPORT AND PROVIDED TO THE GOVERNOR AND LEGISLATURE. IN 20 IS 1, YOU WERE ASKED BY THE FLORIDA CHIEF OF ASSOCIATION TO DEVELOP AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM FOR THEIR EXECUTIVE SERVICE LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE, WHICH IS STILL BEING TAUGHT TODAY. AND THAT IS HELPING TO SHAPE THE NEXT LEVEL OF DEVELOPING FUTURE LEADERS OF THE FIRE SERVICE AND AS CHAIRMAN OF THE SECURITY RESOURCE COMMITTEE. YOU ENSURE THEY REPAIN TRAINED AND EQUIPPED. YOUR VISION LED TO THE CREATION OF AN INNOVATIVE MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM FOR FIRST RESPONDERS, PROVIDING THEM WITH SUPPORT, LEADERSHIP, ADDRESSING THE OPIOID CRISIS AND THE AWARD WINNING PROGRAM THAT WILL HELP SET A NEW STANDARD FOR PUBLIC SAFETY HEALTH. YOU HAVE LEFT AN ENDURING LEGACY NOT JUST IN CLAY COUNTY, BUT THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA. AND TO PRESENT TO YOU THE FRANK A. 
          LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD. AND FRANK IS ONLINE. 
          >> WE JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO HONORING YOU IN PERSON WITH THE ANNUAL SAFETY AND HEALTH CONFERENCE ON OCTOBER 7 IN ORLANDO. WHERE WE WILL BE PRESENTING YOU WITH THE ACTUAL AWARD AT THAT TIME. THIS IS WELL DESERVED, AND I'M HONORED TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU. 
          CHIEF, ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA FIRE CHIEF ASSOCIATION SAFETY AND HEALTH SECTION, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON THIS AWARD. 
          IT IS A HUGE MONUMENTAL ACHIEVEMENT FOR YOU AND FOR ALL THOSE THAT HAVE SERVED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I LOOK FORWARD 
          TO SEEING YOU IN OCTOBER. >> CHIEF, CONGRATULATIONS. AS THE RECIPIENT OF THE PRESTIGIOUS AWARD MYSELF, IT IS A GREAT PLEASURE TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU AS WELL. ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA FIREFIGHTER SAFETY AND HEALTH COLLABORATIVE, I LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING YOU IN PERSON AND SHARING THIS RECOGNITION WITH YOU. CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT SERVE WITH YOU WHO MADE THIS POSSIBLE. CONGRATULATIONS. LIEUTENANT? 
          >> THANK YOU, CHIEF. ON BEHALF OF THE HEART AND SOUL OF EVERY SINGLE FIREFIGHTER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO BE A LEADER THAT HAS CULTIVATED THE CULTURE OF CHANGE. THANK YOU FOR USING YOUR INTERNAL DRIVE TO CREATE THE MOUNTAINS THAT YOU HAVE MOVED AND THANK YOU FOR RESTRUCTURING THE COASTLINE OF FLORIDA IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS FROM THE OUTSIDE IN. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO MEETING YOU FACE TO FACE AND TRULY I'M HONORED BY THE INSPIRING COMMITMENT OF YOUR CAREER. THANK YOU, CHIEF AND CONGRATULATIONS. 
          >> TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. WE 
          TRULY APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> I'LL BE BRIEF. EXCUSE ME. I CAN'T DO THIS WITHOUT THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT I WORK WITH. BOTH IN THE FIELD AND IN THE 
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ADMINISTRATION. AND THEY CANNOT DO IT WITHOUT THE SUPPORT THAT WE'VE HAD FROM BOTH THE COUNTY MANAGERS THAT HAVE WORKED UNDER US AS WELL AS THE BOARDS. AND IT IS JUST A REFLECTION OF ALL OF THAT WORK AND COMMITMENT THAT HAS GONE TOGETHER. FRANKLY CARLOS MADE IT SOUND LIKE I HAVE BEEN AROUND FOREVER, AND MAYBE I HAVE BEEN. I GOT TIRED JUST LISTENING TO IT. SO THANK YOU. IT WILL BE MY PRIVILEGE TO REPRESENT THE COUNTY AND THE FLORIDA FIRE CHIEF ASSOCIATION AT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CONFERENCE. AND THIS IS MORE THAN I COULD HAVE EVER ENVISIONED. THANK YOU ALL AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL THERE. 
          >> LAST, BUT NOT LEAST, I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE INCREDIBLE SUPPORT WE HAVE FROM ALL OVER NORTHEAST FLORIDA THAT YOU'VE INSPIRED OR HAD COMMUNICATIONS WITH OVER THE YEARS THAT TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES TO BE ABLE TO COME UP HERE. SO WE WILL INVITE THEM TO BE A PART OF THAT PICTURE 
          HERE WITH US . >> THAT'S AWESOME. 
          >> JUST TO REITERATE, CHIEF MOCK SAID IT BEST. IT'S A TEAM EFFORT. AND ALL OF US IN A ROOM, THE CONSTITUENTS TO BE RECOGNIZED STATEWIDE FOR SUCH AN HONORABLE SELECTION AND 
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THANK YOU EVERYONE. LOOKING OUT, I SEE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER, MS GREEN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO PRESENT? 
          >> YES, SIR, BUT I DON'T WANT TO FOLLOW THAT. SO TODAY WHAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, I PUT A COPY IN FRONT OF YOU AND IT'S A FINANCIAL REPORT AND THE PEOPLE'S REPORT. IT IS SOMETHING WE PILOTED THIS YEAR ONCE WE GOT THROUGH THE EXTERNAL AUDIT. AND AMY AND HER TEAM WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN COLLECTING THE DATA AS WELL AS WORKING WITH COUNTY LEADERS TO GET THIS REPORT DONE. SO I WANTED TO SHOW YOU GUYS THIS WILL BE A USEFUL TOOL FOR YOU WHEN YOU'RE OUT SPEAKING TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS. I'M NOT GOING TO WALK THROUGH ALL OF IT, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE LAY OUT OF WHAT THE REPORT 
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IS. IT WILL NOT LOOK LIKE THIS. IT'S AT THE PRINTERS. IT WILL LOOK MORE LIKE THIS, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE PROFESSIONAL. 
          WE ARE NOT PRINTING A WHOLE BUNCH TO SAVE MONEY, BUT IT WILL BE AVAILABLE ONLINE AND AVAILABLE TO YOU ELECTRONICALLY AS WELL. BUT THE ONES WE DO HAVE PRINTED, WE'RE GOING TO RESERVE A STACK THAT YOU COULD TAKE OUT TO YOUR HOA, MEETINGS, WHEREVER YOU WANT TO GO. SO BASICALLY IN IT THIS REPORT, THIS IS A CONDENSED VERSION OF IT THIS LOVELY THING HERE. THIS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE REPORT. AND SO THE IDEA BEHIND THIS REPORT, SO IT IS ACCESSIBLE AND EASY TO READ FOR A GENERAL PUBLIC PERSON. SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT WORKING IN THE PUBLIC FINANCE WORLD. I'LL LOOK AT THAT TALL OF CONTENT REAL QUICK AND SO THAT IS THE LAYOUT AND WHAT IS INVOLVED IN HERE IS BEST PRACTICES ACROSS THE NATION ACTUALLY, BUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND FOR THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS. WE ARE GOING TO POISE OURSELVES NEXT YEAR AND THIS YEAR AS A PILOT TO KIND OF GET OUR FEET WET AND GATHER THE DATA, THAT WAS A BIG LIFT. BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO HAVE TEN YEARS WORTH OF DATA, I BELIEVE, TO CREATE THE REPORT. BUT WE WILL APPLY FOR THE AWARD NEXT YEAR. HOPEFULLY WE CAN RECOGNIZE THE REPORT. AND THAT IS HOW WE HIGHLIGHT PAGE SIX WHERE WE HIGHLIGHT THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS AND THEIR DISTRICTS. AND THEN WE GET INTO THE ECONOMY AND SOME HIGH LEVELS OF FUN FACTS. AND THAT WE WOULD TOUCH ON THE HOUSING MARKET JUST A LITTLE BIT AS THEY SAID IT DURING HER THING AND THE GREAT NATION. AND IF YOU LOOK, WE ARE BELOW THE MEDIUM HOUSE PRICE AND NOT ONLY IN THE STATE AND STILL HONORING THEM AND THAT IS GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND THEN THE REPORT WILL GET INTO REVENUE AND REVENUE SOURCES, AND IT WILL TALK HIGH LEVEL AND WHAT THE SOURCES ARE, HOW THEY COULD BE USED AND WE WOULD SHOW SOME TRENDS. MOST OF THE NUMBERS THAT WE DO PROVIDE WILL SHOW THE CURRENT YEAR AND HOW IT'S BROKEN OUT AND THEN WE'LL COMPARE IT TO PREVIOUS YEAR OVER YEAR TO KIND OF SEE A BIGGER TREND. AND THEN IT TALKS ABOUT WHERE DOES YOUR PROPERTY TAXES GO? AND SO WE USED THE NUMBER OF5,201, THE AVERAGE TAX THAT'S PAID ON A MEDIUM HOME PRICE IN 2023. WE TOOK THE DOLLAR AND WE BROKE IT DOWN. 
          AND THAT THE TAXPAYER IS SPENT TO SUPPORT YOUR COUNTY AND YOUR COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND SERVICES AND WHAT HAVE YOU. THAT'S BROKEN DOWN. WE TALKED ABOUT YEAR-OVER-YEAR PROPERTY TAXES AS WELL, AS WELL AS OTHER TAXES THAT WE WOULD GET INTO THE SALES TAX REVENUE, TRENDS, TOURIST DEVELOPMENT, LOCAL GAS TAX. THEN WE START TALKING ABOUT BUDGET. AND THAT YOU COULD SEE WHAT THAT YEAR WAS. I'M SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THAT YEAR WAS. THEN WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE FUNDS ARE AND HOW THEY'RE USED TO EDUCATE THE GENERAL PUBLIC. 
          THEN IT WILL GET INTO OPERATING COST WE INCLUDED THE COUNTY DEPARTMENT AND BROKEN DOWN FROM 2022 TO 2023 AND WHAT THAT PERCENT CHANGE WAS AND WHAT THAT COST FOR TAXPAYERS WAS. 
          AND AS FAR AS THEIR BUDGET. THEN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT ACTIVITIES EXPENSES. THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE DOES YOUR MONEY GO? WHAT IS IT PAYING FOR? WHAT SERVICES IS IT PAYING FOR? AND THEY WILL TALK ABOUT SOME USER FEE, SOLID WASTE, AND THE UNIVERSAL COLLECTION, WHICH I KNOW SOMETIMES IT COULD BE HOT TOPICS. THEN THE COUNTY'S RESERVES. THAT'S THE BEST PRACTICE TO INCLUDE IN THE REPORT. WE HAVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE INVESTMENTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE MANAGING NOW FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS AND AS WELL AS THE DEBT AND THAT IS YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK OBVIOUSLY. 
          AND THAT WILL COME STRAIGHT FROM THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT. 
          WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE FINAL IS JUST SOME EXTRA PICTURES OF THE DEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN THE COUNTY, JUST SO THE BOOK COULD BE BOUND. I WANT TO PUT THAT IN FRONT OF YOU AND SHARE IT WITH YOU, SO WE WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME FINAL COPIES AS WE GET THEM AND REACH OUT TO US AND LET US KNOW HOW MANY YOU NEED. HOPEFULLY YOU'LL FIND IT AS A USEFUL TOOL AND WE WOULD LIKE SOME FEEDBACK ON IT AS WELL. IF YOU SEE SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE OR YOU SEE COMMUNICATED THAT IS NOT IN THERE. WE WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT. 
          >> AND JUST WITH A QUICK VIEW, THIS IS AN EXCEPTIONAL PIECE OF 
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DOCUMENT FOR THE HOA MEETINGS, AND JUST VERY CONCISE AND PORTRAYS WHAT WE WILL DO FROM A DAILY BASIS, SO THANK YOU. 
          >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> AND MR. CHAIR, POINT OF PRIVILEGE IF I MAY. THIS MORNING THEY HAVE A FEATURE THAT I WOULD LOOK ON THE WEBSITE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY PICKED IT UP. BUT IT'S A PROGRAM WITH THE LEGAL SERVICES THAT WAS $50 FOR HALF AN HOUR FOR AN HOUR. $80 FOR AN HOUR OF SERVICES AND NOT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WILL GO THROUGH. AND TO USE THOSE LEGAL SERVICES, BUT THEY WERE HIGHLIGHTING THEM THIS MORNING AND THAT I WANT TO TELL YOU THANK YOU AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT OFFERING THIS TYPE OF SERVICE. AND THE ATTORNEYS HAVE TO REPRESENT THEIR TIME. AND WHAT A GREAT SERVICE FOR OUR CITIZENS. I KNOW YOU HAD TO STOP IT IN THE COVID ERA, BUT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT BACK. 
          >> THANK YOU. AND THAT'S THE ISSUE? 
          >> I BELIEVE THEY WROTE THAT ARTICLE ON IT, YEAH. 
          >> IF YOU WANT TO READ MORE ABOUT IT, GET AN ARTICLE TODAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? >> CAN I BRAG? SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CLAY COUNTY FIRE AND RESCUE. SO MY SON, CONNOR, IS WITH CLAY COUNTY FIRE AND RESCUE. THEY HIRED HIM IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR. HUSBAND FIRST CALL WAS THE ACCIDENT OVER IN OAK LEAF. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER THAT. SO HE LEARNED QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, BY THE LINE OF FIRE ON THAT ONE. 
          HE SAT FOR HIS ENGINEER EXAM LAST WEEK AND PASSED. SO HE IS MOVING UP. I TOLD HIM I WOULD TRY TO EMBARRASS HIM TONIGHT. 
          >> LIKE THE GOOD MOM YOU HAVE. >> I'M SURE HIS FELLOW FIREFIGHTERS WILL MAKE SURE HE'S RECOGNIZED. 
          >>> WE HAVE THE SHERIFF THAT'S HERE AS WELL. THE MICROPHONE IS YOURS IF YOU NEED IT. YOU'RE GOOD? OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          EVERYTHING GOING WELL? EVERYBODY IS OBEYING THE LAW? 
          >> WE ARE SAFER NOW THAN WE WERE TEN YEARS AGO. 
          >> GREAT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. WE'RE LOOKING FOR HIGH LEVEL ACHIEVEMENTS. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND RICKY, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AS WELL. SEEING NO OTHER 
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CONSTITUTIONALS THAT I RECOGNIZE. OKAY, MOVING ON. 
          APPROVAL MINUTES FROM THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING 
          FROM AUGUST 13. >> I'LL MOVE APPROVAL. 
          >> SECOND. >> OKAY, A MOTION AND SECOND APPROVE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER MEETING FROM AUGUST 13. ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, INDICATE BY SAYING AYE? 
          [PUBLIC COMMENTS]
          >> AYE. >> ANY NAYS? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT PORTION OF OUR MEETING WILL GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA IS DESIGNED TO ALLOW CITIZENS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING MATTERS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOARD. AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL NOT ENGAGE YOU AND DEBATE AS A COMMENT PERIOD OR THEY WON'T ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. BUT YOU CAN GET ANYTHING ANSWERED IF YOU E-MAIL CLAY COUNTY. PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS ARE PLACED AT THE MEETING ROOM ENTRANCE AND SHOULD BE SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK AT THE FAR LEFT HERE. AND YOU'RE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR OUR RECORD. AND NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF CARDS. 
          THE FIRST ONE IS MR. WILLIAM JONES. 
          >> WILLIAM JONES, 3125 VERONICA AVENUE. AND THE FIRST COMMENT IS ON YOUR TRASH. YOU ALL HAVE PICTURES. THERE IS A WHOLE BUNCH. AND IT IS ISSUED. THE BLACK ONE. 
          AND I PUT IT UP SIX. 
          AND THE OTHER ONE THAT I HAVE AND THAT THERE E LOT OF PEOPLE. AND IN CLAY COUNTY THAT THEY WILL HAVE THOSE TRASH CANS. AND THOSE TRASH CANS, THEY SHOULD WORK THE NEW PICK UP. AND RIGHT NOW YOU'RE UNDER A MICROPHONE AND WHO YOU HAVE DOING IT. AND ST. JOHNS, EXCUSE MY LANGUAGE. I WILL TAKE MY 
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CAN. I WILL GO TO THREE DIFFERENT HOUSES OUTSIDE OF MY RESIDENTIAL AREA. AND MEET YOU ANYWHERE TO TEST THEM. AND THOSE SHOULD WORK AS THE SECONDARY OR TRIPLE WHATEVER THE PERSON WILL NEED FOR TRASH. AND MEET YOU ANYWHERE YOU WANT FOR AN OPT TEST. IF I'M WRONG, I'LL COME BACK AND APOLOGIZE. 
          AND I DON'T THINK I'M WRONG. YOU'RE CHARGING PEOPLE SOME CRAZY MONEY. AND IT'S GOT EVERYBODY REQUIRED. AND ANYWHERE TO OPT TEST THEM. WE'LL DO IT TOMORROW MORNING IF YOU WANT. AND AFTER 7:30 BECAUSE I NEED TO MAKE SURE MY GRANDKID WILL BE IN THE SCHOOL BUS. AND THE SECOND THING, THEY WILL BE TIRED OF THIS ONE. 25 YEARS. I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR MY ROAD TO BE PAVEED. AND WHO IS PAYING FOR THOSE. THE COUNTY OR THE CONTRACTOR BUILDING THE HOUSING. 
          IF THE COUNTY PAID FOR THAT, THAT IS TOTALLY WRONG. AND TWO OF THEM AS OF 2017 WHEN YOU GUYS HAD A LIST OR THE VERY BOTTOM. AND ONE OF THEM IS NOT EVEN ON THE LIST. I'VE HAD OTHER ROADS AND THAT THEY WERE BELOW MINE THAT HAVE BEEN 
          PAVEED. >> CAN HE FINISH IT UP? THE 
          COMMENTS. >> AND I'VE GOT TO CALL PUBLIC AND THEN THEY WILL FIX THE ROAD. AND PUTTING MILLINGS DOWN ON TOP AND SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE DIRT, SO I DON'T HAVE TO BE WITH THOSE TRUCKERS THAT COULD BE A BURN OUT AND DIRT. 
          >> FINISH UP, PLEASE. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> HI, AND IN KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. AND THE MISSION OF THE DIRT ROAD. AND WHEN I STARTED IN 2016, OUR VISION WAS TO SEE HIGH RIDGE AND THAT HIGH RIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSFORMED INTO A HEALTHY, STRONG REVITALIZED COMMUNITY. MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT IS A PIE IN THE SKY DREAM. AND I BEGAN TO RESEARCH AND ASK QUESTIONS AT THAT TIME, THE COUNTY WAS NOT INTERESTED IN THAT CONVERSATION AND SEEM TO BRUSH ME OFF. AND HOWEVER I'M HERE TODAY AND THAT HAS CHAINED. I KNOW YOU'RE ALL RECEIVING AN UPDATE ON THE INITIATIVES TONIGHT. AND THAT I WANTED TO COME AND SAY THANK YOU. I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. 
          NOW I DON'T JUST HAVE MY ANSWER OR MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED. AND REGULAR CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SOLUTIONS FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND FOR EXAMPLE, THE COUNTY MANAGER AND STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING WITH US TO FIND SOME SOLUTIONS FOR SOME ABANDONED PROPERTY. THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AND 
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SOCIAL SERVICES HAS BEEN WORKING WITH US AND THE KEYSTONE SAFETY NET, SO WE COULD INCREASE AWARENESS AND ACCESSIBILITY IN THE PROGRAM AND AND LIKE WHEN THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AND SOCIAL SERVICES INVITED ME TO BE A PART OF THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE CALL FOR AN EPA GRANT THAT WILL PRESENT AN OPPORTUNITY TO PAVE THE ROAD IN HIGH RIDGE, WHICH WILL BE AS YOU KNOW, A HUGE WIN. AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD TAKE DECADES TO IMPROVE THE ROADS. SO IT IS EXCITING TO SAY THIS WILL BE A BIG FIT AND THAT WE WOULD HAVE SOME HIGH RIDGE INITIATIVE MEETING LAST WEEK THAT CAME FIRED UP FOR ROADS. AND THANK YOU FOR LOOKING FOR CREATIVE SOLUTIONS TO COLLABORATE FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY. AS 
          YOU KNOW, HIGH RIDGE -- >> FINISH UP. 
          >> OKAY. AND IT IS A UNIQUE PROJECT AND IT NEEDS UNIQUE SOLUTIONS. AND IN MANY WAYS FIXING THE ROAD IS A STEP THAT WILL HAVE A HUGE IMPACT OR COULD HAVE A HUGE IMPACT. AND TO CONTINUE TO INVITE US FOR THESE IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS TO STRENGTHEN THE BEAUTIFUL PARTNERSHIP. THANKS. 
          >> THANK YOU. 
          >> AND MR. TOMMY HUTCHINSON? 
          >> YES, MY NAME IS THOMAS HUTCHISON. I LIVE AT EAGLE NEST LANE WITH A PRIVATE DIRT ROAD. WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT OURSELVES. IT'S ABOUT FOUR MILES OF DIRT ROAD. AND THE TRASH TRUCKS THAT WILL COME THROUGH THERE, TO SHOW WHERE THAT DART IS. I WOULD TALK TO ALL MY NEIGHBORS AND THEY'RE SAYING THAT WE DON'T EVEN WANT THAT TRASH. WE'VE GOT A SATELLITE DUNK RIGHT THERE BY LONG BAY. BY THE CHURCH. I MEAN I COULD THROW A BASEBALL TO IT ALMOST. I DON'T NEED TO BE IN THAT TRASH PICKUP. I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT WE DON'T WANT IT. AND IT'S OUT OF THE CITY LIMITS. AND WE ARE NOT HOLDING IT BECAUSE OF THE PRIZE. AND ONLY ONE TRASH CAN. 
          WHAT IF WE GET A TV OR SOMETHING OR A BIG BOX THAT COULD NOT FIT IN THAT TRASH CAN, THAT YOU KNOW, WE CANNOT DISPOSE THOSE AND WE NEED TO CARRY OUR TRASH ANY WAY AND MOST OF US DO. AND SO I DON'T WANT THAT TRASH AT ALL. YOU CAN COME UP, PICK YOUR CAN UP. NOT CONTRACT WITH YOU ON IT ALL. 
          AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> AND IT THIS ONE RIGHT HERE? 
          >> YES. >> THANK YOU. AND WAYNE? I LIVE IN KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. AND DOWN THE DIRT ROAD. I FIGURED OUT WHO WOULD COME UP WITH THIS CONTRACT FOR THE TRASH, BUT IT IS COMPLETE BS. AND WE ARE GETTING LESS COVERAGE AND HAVING TO PAY FOR A CAN THAT I'VE GOTTEN THAT IS WAY MORE HEAVIER DUTY THAN THAT. AND I'VE GOT A BAD BEAR PROBLEM. 
          BECAUSE I LIVE RIGHT BESIDE THE STATE FOREST. THEY ARE STRAPPED BETWEEN TWO POSTS TO KEEP ME FROM HAVING TO PICK UP TRASH EVERY DAY. AND NOW I'LL NEED TO UNSTRAP MY TRASH CAN TO PICK UP. THE TRASH CAN I'VE GOT IS WAY HEAVIER DUTY THAN WHAT THEY SENT OUT. AND I'M PAYING MORE FOR LESS PRODUCT. IT IS COMPLETE B.S. I DON'T KNOW WHO VOTED FOR THIS, BUT THEY NEED TO BE LOOKED INTO VERY HARD. AND NOW YOU'RE ALL JACKING UP 
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THE PRICE. IT'S WRONG. AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT SERVICE WE'VE GOT AND I HAVE MY ISSUE WITH THEM AND IT IS THE WAY I'VE GOT MY TRASH CAN. WE HAVE WORKED THAT WAY OUT AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE SERVICE THAT WE HAVE. 
          THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> I DON'T HAVE ANYMORE CARDS. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION TONIGHT? SEEING NONE, I'M GOING 
          [CONSENT AGENDA]
TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND MOVE ON TO CONSENT AGENDA. 
          ARE WE GOING TO PULL SOMETHING? >> ITEMS 14 AND 15. 
          >> AND 14 AND 15 ARE GOING TO BE PULLED. THERE'S 22, THERE'S 22 OTHER ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO 14 AND 15 ARE PULLED AND MOVED TO NEXT WEEK, NEXT MEETING? 
          >> WE DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE THE NEXT MEETING, BUT WE'LL 
          BRING THEM BACK. >> ALL RIGHT, BUT WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING THEM TONIGHT? ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL TAKE -- ANYONE ELSE WISH TO PULL ANY? SEEING ÚNONE, HEARING NONE, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          >> MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND. 
          >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA EXCEPT FOR 14 AND 15. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE. 
          >> ANY NAYS? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE ONTO ITEM 
          [22.  Budget update brief (T. Nagle)]
NUMBER 22. BUDGET UPDATE. MY PEN. YEAH. HE'S HERE FOR A LITTLE BIT LONGER. WHETHER GOOD EVENING E-COMMERCES. WANTED TO DO A QUICK BUDGET UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE AT BEFORE WE BRING THE BUDGET FOR THE TWO HEARINGS IN SEPTEMBER. AND THIS YEAR'S BUDGET WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FOR US. AND WE DON'T HAVE ARPA MONEY, SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS AND WE DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO. AS YOU REMEMBER, WE TALKED ABOUT SOME CHANGES IN THE BUDGET. AND MOVING BUILDING MAINTENANCE. MOVING TO MORE OF THE PROJECT BASED WORKSHOP. AND OPERATING BUDGET, WE'LL FOCUS ON THE GENERAL FUND TONIGHT AND STEPS TAKEN SO FAR THAT WERE IN THE GENERAL FUND THAT WOULD LOOK TO MOVE THOSE IF POSSIBLE. WE WOULD LOOK AT HISTORICAL TRENDS AND OPERATING AND ADJUSTED THOSE CALL CENTERS ACCORDINGLY. WE WOULD ADJUST THOSE ACCORDINGLY AND REDUCE PROJECT SCOPE AND BASED ON THE WORKSHOP THAT WE HAD IN PERSON. 
          AND THEY ARE CONTINUING TO GIVE US THE ESTIMATES AS THEY COME IN AND SOME TO OUR FAVOR AND SOME NOT TO OUR FAVORITE. AND WE WOULD CONTINUE TO LOOK IN WAYS THAT WE COULD TRIM THE BUDGET AS YOU'LL SEE AS WE GO THROUGH THE SLIDE PRESENTATION, SOME OF THE PLACES THAT WE HAVE DONE THAT. AND WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT PERSONNEL AS YOU'LL REMEMBER WE HAD A REQUEST. 
          REDUCE THAT DOWN AND NOW WE'RE DOWN TO SEVEN AND 15 FIREFIGHTERS IS WHAT WILL BE IN YOUR PROPOSED BUDGETS THAT WILL COME TO YOU IN SEPTEMBR. AND YOU WILL SEE THE POSITIONS THAT ARE LISTED OUT THERE. NEXT SLIDE. THE NEXT PART IS IMPLEMENTING THE SECOND PHASE OF THE STUDY WHERE LAST YEAR WE MOVED EVERYBODY, WE TRIED TO GET THEM ON TARGET. OUR PROPOSAL THIS YEAR IS TO GIVE THAT 3%, WHICH IS MATCHING WHAT THE STATE IS DOING. AND HOLD BACK 1.5% OF THE SALARIES TO GET THOSE BELOW THE MIDPOINT TO START SLIDING THEM CLOSER TO THE RANGE. THAT WILL AFFECT 283 OUT OF THE NON-UNION EMPLOYEES. 
          AND THEN 1.5% WILL BE SET ASIDE FOR MOVING THEM IN THE RANGES 
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AS WE MOVE IN OUR NEW PLAN TO HAVE PEOPLE PROMOTE FROM INSPECTOR ONE OR TWO IF THEY MEET THOSE QUALIFICATIONS. THAT IS HOW WE WILL LOOK AT COMMENDATION THIS YEAR AND ONE THING TO NOTE, FOR COMMENT EMPLOYEES, THEY WILL GO, AND WE WILL TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE SOME EMPLOYEES THAT ARE MAKING LESS THAN THAT NUMBER AND THAT I WILL STOP THERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. IF NOT. ALL RIGHT. 
          PERFECT. SO THE GENERAL FUND, THAT IS OUR MAIN FOCUS, MAKING SURE THE GENERAL FUND STAYS HEALTHY. WE DO HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET AT THIS POINT. AND THE EXPENSES ARE $141 MILLION FOR GENERAL FUND. WE HAVE THE RESERVES AT 16.7%. AND AS RECOMMENDED BY GFOA AND AS RECOMMENDED BY YOUR BOND COUNCIL. WHEN WE WENT FOR THE BONDS, WE HAD A GOOD CREDIT RATING BUT A WE WERE AT THAT THRESHOLD FOR THE RESERVES. 
          NEXT SLIDE. AND THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT. THIS IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO FINE TUNE WHAT VEHICLES WE WILL BE REPLACING. WE TRY TO REPLACE VEHICLES THAT ARE OVER TEN YEARS, OVER 120,000 MILES OR MORE THAN 50%. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF VEHICLES OVER TEN YEARS AND A LOT THAT ARE FOCUSED ON THE REPLACEMENT VEHICLES. ALL THE VEHICLES ARE BETWEEN 10 TO 22 YEARS OLD. OF THOSE 18, 12 WILL BE REUTILIZED IN THE FLEET. SO YES, WE'RE TAKING 10-YEAR-OLD VEHICLES AND WE'LL FIND A PLACE TO KEEP USING THEM AND SO MAYBE INSTEAD OF HAVING A VEHICLE THAT WILL DRIVE AROUND THE COUNTY, IT'S TO HAUL STUFF. AND STILL CONTINUE TO UTILIZE THAT VEHICLE, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO USE OR BUY AS MANY NEW VEHICLES. ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? AND THE NEXT PAGE KIND OF LOOKS AT WHERE WE MADE REDUCTIONS AT. WE TOLD YOU WE LOOKED AT OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES, HISTORICAL TRENDS. WE STARTED WITH THE BUDGET THAT WE PRESENTED THE WORKSHOP FROM THAT TIME TO TODAY AND THESE ARE THE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE MADE IN DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, AND THEY ARE YOUR ITEMS THAT YOU ARE SPENDING MONEY ON. AND OPERATIONAL AND SUPPLIES AND OPERATING EXPENSES, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. THAT THESE WILL BE WHERE WE FOUND WE COULD MAKE REDUCTIONS THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET THAT ARE NOT PROJECT RELATED. I HAVE 21% REDUCTION IN FUELS. WHAT MEASURES ARE WE 
          GOING TO USE TO ACHIEVE 21%? >> I THINK IT IS MORE LOOKING AT THOSE BUDGETS AND MAKING SURE THE NUMBERS THAT ARE IN THOSE BUDGETS OR SOME DEPARTMENTS MIGHT HAVE SAID HEY, WE NEED TO HAVE A 5,000 INCREASE, OKAY, WELL THEY DO NOT SUPPORT THAT, SO WE WILL PULL THAT BACK OUT. AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS MORE OF A SAVINGS OF HAIR, HERE IS WHERE WE WILL REDUCE OUR COSTS AND LOOKING FOR EFFICIENCIES IN THOSE BUDGETS OR WHERE THEY MIGHT HAVE ASKED FOR MORE AND WHERE THEY ARE SUPPORTING THE BUDGET. MAKING SURE IT'S TRUE TO WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SPENDING. 
          >> AND SOME ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE IDLING POLICIES. 
          >> YES, SIR. >> AND THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WE COULD IMPLEMENT TO ACHIEVE THOSE SAVINGS AND THAT CAR IDLING THERE REALLY, THAT THEY WILL KEEP IT COOL. 
          AND DOESN'T ACHIEVE MUCH. >> AND I CAN TELL YOU, NOT RECENTLY, BUT PROBABLY SIX OR SEVEN YEARS AGO THAT WE DID LOOK INTO THAT FOR SAVINGS AND IT IS PROBABLY SOMETHING AND THAT WE'VE GOT THAT ON ALL OF OUR VEHICLES TO PULL THAT DATA EASILY TO TELL YOU HOW LONG THE VEHICLE IS IDLING. 
          >> SOME NEWER CARS DO IT FOR YOU AS YOU WILL COME TO THE RED 
          LIGHT. >> YES, SIR. 
          >> WHICH IS AGGRAVATING SOMETIMES. AND YOU KNOW THERE WERE SOME AREAS WHERE WE WOULD HAVE INCREASES SINCE THE WORKSHOP, YOU KNOW. PRIMARILY RELATED TO UTILITIES, INSURANCE. THOSE AREAS. I MEAN WE'VE GOT NOTICE FROM A LOT OF OUR UTILITIES THAT THEY ARE ALL GOING UP. AND EVERYBODY, THEY'RE SHOWING THEIR INCREASES NEXT YEAR, SO WE 
          WOULD PREPARE FOR THOSE. >> AND NEXT PAGE, WE WILL GET 
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INTO PROJECTS THAT WERE FUNDED OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. AGAIN BE THE PROJECT WILL BE ANYTHING OVER $20,000 THAT IS A ONE TIME OR ONGOING PURCHASE. SO THESE ARE ONES THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT AND TO A FUTURE YEAR. SO THESE ARE NOT FUNDED IN THE CURRENT PROJECT IF THEY ARE A PRIORITY STILL FOR THE COUNTY. THEN THE NEXT PAGE ARE ONES THAT MAYBE THE PROJECT, THEY DID NOT NEED TO BE FULLY DONE IN THIS YEAR. AND THAT WILL BE A PRIME EXAMPLE. AND THAT WE HAVE $975,000 IN THERE AND WE WILL USE ABOUT $300,000 THIS YEAR IN THE DESIGN. THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO TAKE IT TO A FUTURE YEAR BEING IN '25, '26, IF WE DECIDE TO DO THAT PROJECT. AND SO INSTEAD OF HOLDING $975,000 IN YOUR BUDGET THAT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SPENT THIS YEAR, WE LOOK AT TIMING THINGS OUT. THEN YOU'LL SEE THE OTHER REDUCTIONS THAT WE MADE ACROSS THE BOARD AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP IN THE WORKSHOP INSTEAD OF DOING THE DEMO THIS YEAR. WE'LL DO THE 50,000 AND THEN IF THE COUNTY DECIDES TO PAVE IT, THAT CAN BE DONE IN A FUTURE YEAR. NEXT SLIDE. AND SO THE NEXT STEPS, WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON FINALIZING THE BUDGET FROM THIS MEETING AND ANY FEEDBACK THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE AND WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVEN'T MISSED ANYTHING JUST TO SAY HEY, THIS IS WHAT THEY SAW AND CHECK US, MAKE SURE WE'RE RIGHT. PRESENT THEM TO THE COMMISSIONER HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK. THAT WAY YOU HAVE A FEW DAYS TO REVIEW THEM BEFORE WE GO INTO HEARINGS ON THE 10TH AND THE 24TH. BETWEEN THE TWO HEARINGS, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET YOU THAT BOOK BEFORE THE FIRST HEARING. I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T THANK EVERYONE, THE ACMS. THIS HAS BEEN A REAL YEAR WHERE WE HAVE PUSHED THE DEPARTMENTS HARDER THAN WE HAVE IN THE PAST TO JUSTIFY EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE PUT IN YOUR BUDGET. NOT SAYING THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD A GOOD SOLID BUDGET IN THE PAST, BUT WE PUSHED HARD THIS YEAR BECAUSE REVENUES WERE FLAT AND WE PUSHED HARD TO MAKE SURE WE ACCOUNTED FOR EVERY DOLLAR AND TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW IN YOUR BUDGETS IF YOU WANT TO SEE THAT DETAILED BUDGET, I HAVE A BUDGET THAT WILL BREAK DOWN EVERY SPLIT. AND WHY ARE YOU SPENDING A MILLION DOLLARS ON SOFTWARE, I CAN TELL YOU THE 40 PRODUCTS THAT MAKE THAT UP NOW. THAT'S A GREATER LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT WE'VE EVER HAD IN OUR BUDGET. SO I COMMEND THE STAFF, THE OEM TEAM, BECAUSE I HAVE DRIVEN THEM ALL CRAZY. 
          >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR TROY? I WANT TO COMPLIMENT. WE STARTED OFF EIGHT WEEKS AGO SCRATCHING OUR HEADS. HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET TO THAT PERCENTAGE. AND WHAT THAT DOES, IT IS AN ELEMENT TO OUR CREDIT RATING AND YOU KNOW YOUR FICO SCORES, WE HAVE SOME PRETTY HIGH SCORES AND WE WANT TO KEEP THEM THERE AND SO CONGRATULATIONS ON MAKING THAT. 
          >> AND HARD WORK WITH THE STAFF. IT WASN'T ME. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> AND IF I CAN, ITEM NUMBER 28 IS OUR BENEFITS PRESENTATION, AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO 
          BEFORE 5:00 IF I SEE THEM. >> THEY STEPPED OUT. 
          >> OKAY. FORGET I EVER MENTIONED IT. YOU'RE UP. 
          [23.  Fair Association Task Force (J. Pierce)]
          >> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. THE FAIR ASSOCIATION BOARD SUBMITTED A LETTER TO THE BCC AND IT READS SEEKING THE COUNTY COMMISSION TO AUTHORIZE AND COLLABORATE WITH STAFF TO ANALYZE THE PROPOSED OPTIONS FOR THE COUNTY COMMISSION TO CONSIDER ON THE 9TH OF JULY, UTILIZING THE FAIRGROUNDS AND HOW THEY WILL MANAGE IT ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. STAFF WAS TO CREATE THE TASK FORCE AND DISCUSS THE VARIATIONS. YOU HAVE ALL RECEIVED A LIST OF THE MEMBERS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED FOR THE TASK FORCE. IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO RAZE THOSE 
          [00:55:01]
NAMES, I CAN. BUT WE ARE SEEKING APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING FROM THAT LEASE OR MODIFICATION OF THE CURRENT AGREEMENT THAT WE'LL HAVE WITH THE FAIR ASSOCIATION. WITH THAT. ANY QUESTIONS? 
          >> I THINK THIS ISA WONDERFUL THING, AND I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. AND I MOVE APPROVAL 
          UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANYTHING. >> I'LL SECOND HER MOTION. 
          >> AND THE BOARD IS TO MY LEFT AND THEY ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ALSO. 
          >> THAT'S A LOT OF MEMBERS ON THE COMMITTEE. SO YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THE DISCUSSION, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEMS. IT'S A GOOD SELECTION OF SPECIALTIES THAT 
          GO INTO THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. >> THANK YOU, SIR. 
          >> DO WE WANT TO VOTE ON THAT? LET'S TAKE A MOTION TO 
          APPROVE. >> WE ALREADY DID. 
          >> YES, A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> 
          >> GREAT, THANK YOU. >> BEFORE YOU GO THOUGH, WE HAVE A SPECIAL PRESENTATION HERE. AND JUST THIS SUMMER WE HAD THE BUILDERS AND CONTRACTORS, WHICH IS A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION, WHICH WILL REPRESENT 23,000 COMPANIES THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES. AND IT IS EXCELLENT IN CONSTRUCTION AWARDS SELECTED OUR REGIONAL PARK AS A RECIPIENT OF THIS. IT'S CALLED THE EAGLE AWARD FOR GENERAL CONTRACTOR, WHICH WENT TO THE PARKS COMMITTEE AND THE WHOLE GROUP THAT SET UP OUR REGIONAL PARKS, SO I WANT TO PRESENT THIS PUBLICLY. AND DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? AND SO THROUGH THEM, THEIR PROJECT WAS AWARDED THIS AND IT IS THE SECOND HIGHEST AWARD YOU COULD GET IN THE COUNTRY, WHICH IS A GREAT CLAIM THAT WE HAVE DONE IN CLAY COUNTY. 
          >> CHAIRMAN, IT'S A GREAT PROJECT OVERALL WHERE THE PLAN WAS EXECUTED AND ALONG WITH 1621 FOR THE 250 ACRES THAT IS ALSO OUT THERE. THIS IS JUST A TESTAMENT TO THE TEAM. YOU 
          KNOW, MORE TO FOLLOW. >> ONCE AGAIN, WE CAN PAT OURSELVES IN THE BACK. THAT IS GREAT. WHEN OTHER PEOPLE START PATTING YOU IN THE BACK, THAT'S WHEN YOU KNOW IT'S REAL. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> DO YOU NEED HELP CARRYING 
          THAT? >> I THINK I WILL BE ALL RIGHT. 
          >> THAT THING IS HEAVY. LET'S SEE. LET'S GO IN. CAN WE GO INTO TIME CERTAIN? A MINUTE EARLY? . DOES ANYBODY HAVE A JOKE? ANYBODY HAVE A JOKE? OKAY, JODY, COME ON UP. 
          [29.  Final Public Hearing to consider adoption of COMP 24-0014. (District 2, Comm Compere) (D.Selig)]
          >> THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE APPLICANT IS BRIAN SMALL. 
          THE PROJECT IS, EXCUSE ME, THE DR.'S INLET AND THE PLANNING DISTRICT, THERE IS ONE PARCEL INVOLVED. AND THE APPLICATION 
          [01:00:06]
WOULD CHANGE ACTUALLY FIVE ACRES. THERE WAS A CHANGE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THAT WENT FORWARD INITIALLY AS THE SIX ACRE PARCEL. HOWEVER, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION AT THAT MEETING ABOUT THE FACT THAT WOULD CREATE A NON-CONFORMING LOT. AND FOR THE PORTION THAT WAS REMAINING IN THE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. SO AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ACTUALLY AS OF TODAY, WE GOT A NEW SURVEY. AND IF YOU HAD SEEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND IT WAS SIX ACRES, IT IS NOW FIVE THAT ARE BEING AFFECTED BY THE APPLICATION AS I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE OF THE LITTLE CHANGE. THE REQUEST IS TO GO FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO THE SUBURBS. AND THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO RETAIN THE PROPERTY WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR HOME. AND IT IS 5.1 ACRES, THAT IT WILL BE SUBJECT TO THIS CHANGE POTENTIALLY. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS A COPY OF THE SURVEY OR THE PORTION OF IT. AND WHAT I HAVE OUTLINED IN ORANGE, THE PROPERTY WHERE THE OWNER WILL RETAIN. AND THE GREEN PART WILL BE AFFECTED BY THE FUTURE LAND USE CHANGE APPLICATION. AND THE DIFFERENCE FROM BEFORE IS THEY'VE ELECTED TO RETAIN THAT LONG 55-FOOT WIDE STRIP DOWN THE EASTERN SIDE. BUT THAT'S WHERE IT WILL DIFFER. BECAUSE THE SURVEY CAME TO IT JUST THIS MORNING, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO UPDATE THE MAPS. 
          EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE AFTER THIS DOESN'T REFLECT THAT STRIP, THAT 50-FOOT STRIP AND JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT. 
          SO IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD. AND SO THE PARCEL IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TRAIL RIDGE. AND IT IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW THERE AND IN THAT AERIAL. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND ON THE LEFT IS THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE. YOU CAN SEE THE YELLOW IS THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL AND THAT SORT OF TAN COLOR IS THE RURAL SUBURBS. 
          ON THE RIGHT IS THE PROPOSED CHANGE. NEXT SLIDE. AND EVERYTHING IN BRANDON FIELD IS THE SAME ZONING OF BFPUD FOR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. AND THE SIGNS WERE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY, AND MY LETTERS WERE MAILED OUT TO ALL OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS BY THEIR COAT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THIS SLIDE WILL SHOW YOU THE SUBJECT PARCEL THAT IS ATTACHED IN YELLOW ON THE RIGHT AND THE TWO PARCELS TO THE WEST, ADJACENT TO ALL OF IT OUTLINED IN BLUE. AND THE REASON FOR IT, THIS PARCEL IS BEING SUBDIVIDED IN THE BACK PORTION OF IT AND IT IS A PART OF THE SUBDIVISION THAT IS PLANNED. IN ORDER FOR YOU TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE ACCESS THAT WOULD BE CREATED. NORMALLY IF IT IS YOU CARVING OUT THE SMALL PORTION AND HOW WILL THAT HAVE ACCESS TO THE ROADWAY AND JUST THROUGH THE PROPERTY THAT THERE IS AN APPARENT PARCEL COMBINED TO THE BEST. THE ISSUE WHEN YOU CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE IS THE DENSITY BECAUSE THEY'RE CHANGING. IN THIS CASE THE EXISTING SUBURBS, THOSE EXISTING PARCELS WILL MEET THE PROGRAM. AND SO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE ABOUT 45 UNITS ON IT. THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL WILL REQUIRE THE MINIMUM OF FIVE ACRERS. AND IT HAS A HOUSING DENSITY PROGRAM AS WELL AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WON'T MEET THAT, WHICH IS WHY THEY ARE ASKING FOR THE BFRA AND THEY CAN MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THESE THAT ARE DIFFERENT. AND SO THAT WOULD ALLOW IT TO GO FROM ONE UNIT FOR FIVE ACRES TO BASICALLY EIGHT UNITS ON THAT SITE, AND SO YOU'RE ADDING SEVEN UNITS TO WHAT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED. THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS INCLUDED 
          [01:05:03]
WITH THE APPLICATION AND IT WAS IT INCLUDED TO SEE WHERE THAT ACCESS WOULD BE PROVIDED TO THE ADDITIONAL PIECE OF PROPERTY. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD US ON AUGUST 6. THEY VOTED 4-3 TO NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL. STAFF HAS GONE THROUGH THE CRITERIA OF THE COMP PLAN AND RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. ASK AND WHATEVER THE PROBLEM WAS AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL LIKE. 
          AND ONLY FOUR AND A HALF ROUGHLY FOR THE REMINDER, WHICH DOESN'T MEET THE MINIMUM FIVE ACRES UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING. 
          AND BECAUSE THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE CHANGED, THEY RECOMMENDED THAT THEY SHIFT THAT, WHICH THEY HAVE DONE. 
          >> AND SO NOW IF THEY GO BACK, THEY WILL PROBABLY BE OKAY WITH 
          THEM? >> CORRECT. 
          >> THAT'S WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS. 
          >> AND THAT IS ONE OF THEIR PRIMARY ISSUES, YEAH. 
          >> I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU SAID THE SURVEY, THAT SLIVER GOING DOWN IS NOT IN THE BACKUPS, SO WHAT DID THE BOARD SEE? 
          >> RIGHT. THEY SAW BASICALLY WHAT YOU SEE ON ALL THE MAPS THAT WE JUST LOOKED AT. CAN YOU GO BACK TO ONE? YEAH, GO FORWARD, YEAH. THEY SAW THESE MAPS. SO THE LINE WENT ALL THE 
          WAY TO THE PROPERTY LINE. >> I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED WHY 
          YOU HAVE A SURVEY IN THERE. >> IN ORDER TO MAKE BOTH PARCELS MEET THE MINIMUM FIVE ACRES EITHER OF THE FUTURE LAND USE TO TAKE THE PROPERTY AWAY AND WE HAD TO RESHIFT SOME PROPERTIES, YES. ONE ACRE NEEDED TO KIND OF MOVE OR ROUGHLY THAT. SO NOW THEY ARE FIVE ACRES, FIVE ACRES. 
          >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> NO, MR. CHAIR IF I COULD. 
          CAN WE SEE THE CURRENT SURVEY? THE ONE THAT WAS JUST SUBMITTED 
          TODAY? >> YES. AND WHAT IT DOES IS CREATE A BUFFER ESSENTIALLY ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THIS PROPOSED NEW PARCEL. 
          SORRY. >> AND SO MY UNDERSTANDING THEN, THAT THESE WERE TWO PARCELS AND THEY CREATED A NEW 
          PARCEL? >> NO, IT IS ONE PARCEL. 
          >> HE IS JUST CHANGING THE ZONING? 
          >> THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THE GREEN PART TO THE BRANAN FIELD RURAL SUBURBS. 
          >> AND IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY, THAT CHANGE MAKES A TOTAL OF EIGHT MORE LOTS PERMISSIBLE? 
          >> WELL, SEVEN MORE ACTUALLY. A TOTAL OF EIGHT. YEAH, YEAH. IT WAS ALREADY ENTITLED TO ONE. THAT'S THE BASE DENSITY FOR A 
          TOTAL OF EIGHT? >> EIGHT HOUSES ON THAT. 
          >> AND WHY DO THEY NOT WANT THAT WHOLE TEN? WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THAT SECOND FIVE ACRES? 
          >> THE PROPERTY OWNER LIVES THERE, SO I'M PRESUMING THEY'RE CONTINUING TO LIVE THERE. THEY DON'T TEND TO MOVE. 
          >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS. I HAVE SEVERAL CARDS. FIRST ONE IS TINA. 
          >> GOT TO SWEAR EVERYBODY IN. >> AND THE APPLICANT. 
          >> OKAY, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? 
          >> YOU STILL HAVE TO SWEAR. OU HAVE TO SWEAR IN. 
          >> WE HAVE THREE ITEMS TO SWEAR IN, CORRECT? AND SO IF ANYBODY IS SPEAKING ON ITEM 29, 30, OR 31, WE'LL NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN. 
          [01:10:06]
          >> JUST STAND UP. >> JUST STAND. YOU HAVE TO GET SWORN IN. IT'S A JUDICIAL HEARING, PUBLIC HEARING. 
          >> RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, PLEASE. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE WHOLE TRUTH, BUT NOTHING, BUT THE TRUTH? 
          >> I DO. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> OKAY. 
          >> GOOD EVENING, 25 NORTH MARKET STREET. JACKSONVILLE. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. CHAIRMAN, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR THE CHANCE TO SPEAK TO YOU THIS EVENING. TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL CLARITY SINCE WE MET WITH THE PLANNING DIVISION. YES, WE'RE RUSHING TO GET THE UPDATED PER STAFF'S REQUEST. THEY DID REQUIRE US TO HAVE AN UPDATED SURVEY TO REFLECT WHAT WE LEARNED GOING INTO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WE MISSED THE FACT WE HAD TO -- WE WERE CREATING AN INCOMPATIBLE PARCEL, ONLY IT WILL BE SIX ACRES, FOUR ACRES. WE MISSED THAT AS WELL. AND IT WAS ONE THAT POINTED THAT OUT TO US, SO WE NEEDED TO SPEAK TO THE OWNERS AND ADDRESS THAT MATTER. @ DID PUSH US IN SPEAKING TO STAFF TO COME BACK WITH A SURVEY CHANGE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN TODAY. AND TO ADD SOME COLOR TO IT JUST A LITTLE BIT. THE HOMEOWNER IS WITH US TODAY. THEY PLAN TO SPEAK ON IT AS WELL. THEY DO LIVE ON THE NORTH THERE AND THE FOUR ACRES. 
          THEY PLAN TO CONTINUE RESIDING ON THE PARCEL THIS EVENING. AS MENTIONED WE HAVE 45, SORRY, 45 LOTS HERE THAT WE ARE PLANNING TO DEVELOP. YOU'RE LOOKING AT HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THE HIGH $500,000 RANGE, LOW $600,000 THAT WILL SERVE THIS AREA GREATLY. THE DOCTORS AND SO FORTH AND THE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR HOSPITALS NEARBY HERE. THIS AREA HAS SEEN A GOT OF GROWTH WITH THE OUTER BELTWAY WHAT FAR ALONG. AND THE AREA TO THE SOUTH HERE IS IN THE MASTER PLAN. THE PARCEL TO THE WEST ARE ALL IN THE MASTER PLAN ALREADY. 624 ACRES AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD TWIN CREEKS AS WELL AS PINE RIDGE NEARBY AS WELL. THAT IS A BUSTLING AREA. 
          THIS IS A 25 MILES AN HOUR ROAD AS THE BEST MILEAGE YOU COULD GET FOR A ROAD AND THE NEIGHBORS ARE VERY PLEASED TO THE FACT IT IS A 25 MILES AN HOUR ROAD. THIS YEAR HERE, WE PLANNED ON DEVELOPING HOMES THAT WILL BE PLEASING. WE HAVE A 50-FOOT BUFFER AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY ON THE WEST AND THE NORTH SIDE ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PARCEL. IT'S ALL PRESERVATION LAND AND UNDISTURBED WETLANDS. 
          ON THE BOUNDARIES WHERE WE HAVE THE FOUR ACRES. AND WE DID FIND AN ACRE ALONG THE EAST COAST NEIGHBORHOODS. THE AIR STRIPE THERE, WE CARVED OUT 18 ACRES, WHICH RECEIVED IT 00-FOOT BUFFERS AND MR. IRA WILL SPEAK TO YOU TODAY. TWO OF THOSE ON THE SOUTH AGAINST THE WEAPONS THAT I DON'T SEE THEM THERE WHERE YOU HAVE ANOTHER PARCELS OF HIS, A THIRD OF IT OR TWO-THIRDS OF IT WILL HIT AGAINST THE PART OF THE WETLANDS THERE OR A THIRD OF IT HITS THE WETLANDS. THEN YOU HAVE THE 100-FOOT BUFFER RECENTLY THAT WE GAVE BACK TO THEM WITH THE 50-FOOT UNDESERVED BUFFER. YOU HAVE 150 FEET OF WHERE YOU NEED TO PLAN TO DEVELOP. WE ARE ASKING FOR SEVEN ADDITIONAL HOMES IN ORDER TO HELP WITH THE DENSITY IN THIS TO SPREAD OUT INFRASTRUCTURE COST. AND INFRASTRUCTURE IS RATHER COSTLY. THIS WILL BE UNDERSERVED TO THAT. FOR THE COMMISSIONER, COMPARED TO THE REQUEST, WE DID HAVE A TOWN HALL MEETING AT THE CLAY UTILITY AUTHORITY BUILDING LAST THURSDAY. WE WERE THERE, WE SCHEDULED FOR TWO HOURS. WE STARTED AT 6:00 AND I WAS THERE UNTIL U 7:20. ALL OF ONE PERSON SHOWED UP. THE NEIGHBOR CAME 
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BY, ANSWERED HER QUESTIONS. WE DIDN'T HEAR ANY CONCERNS OTHERWISE THAT WERE IMPACTFUL FOR TODAY THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE OF CONCERN TO PRESENT TO YOU. BUT ONLY ONE PERSON SHOWED UP. WE MAILED OUT LETTERS TO EVERYONE THAT GOT THE PLANNING NOTICES AS WELL. SHE'S HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU AS WE REACHED OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO HEAR WHAT THEIR CONCERNS WERE. SO YOU CAN GET A BETTER IDEA. IF YOU COULD SEE IT FROM HERE, BUT WE DID SHARE THIS AT OUR MEETING TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA. AND THAT THEY WOULD ASK ABOUT THIS AND TO BRING IT UP TO YOU TO SEE, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. AGAIN WITH THE BUFFER. THIS IS THE 50-FOOT BUFFER THAT IS THIS LINE HERE IF YOU CAN SEE IT OKAY. THE ADDITIONAL 50 FEET THAT WE GAVE BACK. HERE IS THE PARCEL HERE THAT THEY LIVE ON. WE GAVE THIS ADDITIONAL 50 HERE. YOU SEE THAT STRIP? THAT IS A WHOLE ACRE RIGHT HERE, SO YOU HAVE 100 FEET BETWEEN THE PAREL HERE, THE HOMEOWNER TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA. SO AS WE MENTIONED, YOU HAVE THREE PROPERTIES THAT WILL BE ADJACENT TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. THIS ONE HERE UP AGAINST THE WETLANDS. 
          YOU'LL HAVE THIS ONE HERE AND THAT IS THE ONE THAT WOULD SHOW UP TO THE COMMUNITY MEETING WHERE WE WOULD ADDRESS ALL THE CONCERNS WE HAVE TO HER AS WELL AND I'M NOT SURE IF SHE IS HERE TO TALK TO YOU AS WELL. AS MENTIONED THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE SCHOOL BOARD STATED THAT THERE WILL BE NO IMPACT TO THE SCHOOLS. THEY WILL HAVE CAPACITY PLANNED, THAT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT. AGAIN, WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANY TRAFFIC CONCERNS EITHER WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO I KNOW WE WILL HAVE TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY AND THAT IT IS NOT WARRANTED PRIOR TO THIS. AND THAT IT IS A VERY EARLY SITE PLAN. AND IT IS A RECENT VERSION OF THE SITE PLAN THAT THE ENGINEERS HERE, BILL SCHAEFFER, TO YIELD SOME TIME FOR HIM TO ADDRESS THAT AS WELL AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT SITE PLAN AND THAT PROCESS, WHICH AGAIN, I KNOW SOME OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS WOULD HAVE QUESTIONS AND THAT IS NOT A PART OF OUR REQUIREMENT AND OUR APPLICATION FOR THE LAND USE CHANGE. I KNOW THEY WOULD HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CUL-DE-SACS AND SUCH, BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S PERTAINING TO THE APPLICATION THAT WILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AT THIS TIME. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. AS I SAID, WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO PRESENT THIS. AND I APPRECIATE 
          YOUR TIME. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. DID YOU SAY THERE WAS AN AIRSTRIP NEARBY? 
          >> THEY CALLED IT AN AIRSTRIP OR THE AIR, BASICALLY WHAT DO YOU CALL IT IF YOU CAN HELP ME OUT HERE, HOW THEY WOULD AIR 
          THEIR DEED. >> SO THE H-E-I-R. 
          >> IT'S A DIFFERENCE. >> YEAH, YEAH. TOTAL DIFFERENCE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? AND I HAVE SEVERAL CARDS. 
          >> TINA 3609 TRAIL RIDGE. COMMISSIONERS. LET ME JUST START BY SAYING I HAVE LIVED ON MY PROPERTY FOR 40 YEARS. 
          BEFORE THAT WHEN MY LATE HUSBAND AND I WERE DATING, HE LIVED ACROSS THE STREET IN A SMALL MOBILE HOME. WE WOULD SIT IN THE FRONT YARD AND LOOK ACROSS THE DIRT ROAD AND SAY WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT ONE DAY TO HAVE THAT AMERICAN DREAM? AND TO HAVE THAT PROPERTY, TO RAISE CHILDREN. TO HAVE CATTLE AND HORSES. AND A FEW, WELL SOME YEARS LATER, WE WERE BLESSED TO BE ABLE TO BUY THAT PROPERTY. WE DIDN'T JUST BUY PROPERTY. WE BOUGHT A WAY OF LIFE. AND WHEN YOU COMPARE TO THE WEST END OF TRAIL RIDGE TO THE EAST END OF TRAIL RIDGE. 
          THERE IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CULTURE IN THE WAY OF LIFE. AND THE WEST END WAS CREATED AND PREPARED, ESPECIALLY FOR WHAT 
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THEY HAD. THE EAST END, WE WOULD BUY 20 ACRE TRACKS AND WE WOULD PLAN FOR A DIFFERENT WAY OF LIFE. SO IT IS NOT A SURPRISE THAT THERE IS CONCERN. AND AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THAT THERE WERE NEIGHBORS TO SPEAK OUT. AND SEVERAL OTHERS THAT SPOKE. AND THAT I HAVE MET WITH INDIVIDUALS THAT THERE IS A CONCERN OF LOSING THAT WAY OF LIFE. THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, ALTHOUGH THEY DID MENTION THE CONCERN AND THE NUMBER OF CUL-DE-SACS AND THE CONNECTIVITY. STILL, THIS IS A GATEWAY TO FUTURE BUILDING ON THE EAST END OF TRAIL RIDGE. AND SO THIS IS CERTAINLY A CONCERN AND THERE IS NO WAY TO DENY THAT WITH OVER 50 HOMES THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL NOISE. AND MY DAUGHTER LIVES IN FOX MEADOW. WHEN THEY OPENED AND STARTED BUILDING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE POND THERE, THERE'S ONLY THREE HOUSES. OF COURSE, THE KIDS ARE YELLING, THE LAWNMOWERS, CARS, MOTORCYCLES, THE RESCUES. AND THAT IS WITH THREE. SO OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN'T REALLY SEPARATE THIS FIVE ACRES THAT WOULD NOT EVEN BE ADDRESSED IF IT WASN'T FOR THE OTHER 45 HOMES. AND 30 ACRES THAT IS ALREADY PLANNED. 
          >> YOU CAN KEEP SPEAKING. >> SO THE NOISE IS A FACTOR. 
          AND ALSO THE TRAFFIC, WITH OR WITHOUT THAT TRAFFIC STUDY. 
          THAT THERE IS NO WAY TO DENY THAT FACT WE HAVE OVER 50 HOMES, THE TWO CAR HOMES. THERE WILL BE 100 CARS THAT ARE COMING IN AND OUT OF ONE AREA AND COMING ON TO THE TWO LANE WITH NO MEDIAN THAT THEY WILL STOP TRAFFIC GOING IN BOTH DIRECTIONS, OF COURSE. AND HE SAID TO ME, ONE OF THE TWO TIMES THAT WE MET, I JUST WANT TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY. IF IT IS NOT RIGHT, I DON'T WANT TO DO IT. THE COMMUNITY THAT I'VE HEARD ON THE EAST END, YOU CANNOT COMPARE THE WEST END. YOU'RE COMPARING THE APPLES, ORANGES. 
          AND THEY HAVE SPOKEN AND THEY DO HAVE A CONCERN OF THE CHANGE THAT WILL AFFECT THIS EAST END OF THE STREET. 
          >> OKAY, IF YOU CAN SUMMARIZE QUICKLY. 
          >> THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          >> DESIREE GRIFFIN? >> SHE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THE END. SHE'S THE PROPERTY OWNER. 
          >> OKAY. JUST TAKE THEM IN ORDER. WILLIAM SCHAEFFER. 
          >> WILLIAM SCHAEFFER, 1935 SILO OAKS PLACEMENT. AND I'M THE ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT. I THOUGHT MAYBE JOSH WOULD CALL ME UP, BUT SINCE HE DIDN'T, I'LL GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THE PROJECT. THIS IS A TYPICAL SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, THE DEVELOPMENT THAT TO ME, SLOPES FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY COLLECTING TYPOGRAPHY. AND IT WILL BE THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND WITH REGARDS ÚTO WHAT I CALL THE WESTERN PARCEL AND THE EASTERN PARCEL IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW AND THAT LAND USE AGREEMENT OR THE MODIFICATION ON. AND SO THIS WILL HAVE A PUMP STATION, YOU KNOW. IT WILL HAVE AN AMENDMENT CENTER AND A VERY NICE AMENDMENT CENTER AND THE 50-FOOT BUFFER IS ALL THE WAY AROUND WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN, YOU KNOW, TRAIL RIDGE, YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT TREES. IT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE MUCH IN CHARACTER AS YOU DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD. THE SPEED LIMIT IS 25 MILES AN HOUR. THIS ROAD, IT IS NOT DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER PROJECT WHERE IT IS VERY LOW LEVEL OF SERVICE AND IT IS A LOW LEVEL AS FAR AS LEVEL OF SERVICE OUT HERE. THERE ISN'T A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CARDS IN REGARDS TO THE LEVEL OF SERVICE. IT'S 25 MILES AN HOUR AND IT IS A FAIRLY SAFE ROAD TO DRIVE ON AND LEFT, RIGHT TURN LANES WILL BE DETERMINED HOW LONG THEY NEED TO BE IF NEEDED WHEN WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE TRAFFIC STUDY TO MAKE IT SAFER. AND SO I'M THINKING THAT THIS 
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IS A GREAT LOCATION. AND THAT WE ARE JUST ADDING THAT PIECE TO IT AND THE ONES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE EAST. AND THEY ARE THE LAND PLANNERS WHERE THEY HAVE DONE THAT AND WE HEARD THEIR CONCERNS. AND THEIR CONCERNS THAT WE WANT TO SEE SOME MORE WOODS AND SO WE SAID OKAY, LET'S GIVE THEM MORE WOOD AND THAT IS WHAT WE DID AND I'VE BEEN DOING LAND DEVELOPMENT FOR 40 YEARS, AND I THINK WELL OF HIM AND SO THIS IS HOW, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW WE GROW. THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT PARCEL. AND WE WILL DO OUR VERY BEST TO MAKE IT A SAFE PARCEL AND DO OUR BEST TO MAKE IT A PARCEL TO THE NEIGHBORS, AND I'M HERE WITH ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ENGINEERING, PLANNING, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> AND NEXT BE INDIVIDUAL IS 
          BRIAN SMALL. >> GOOD EVENING, BRIAN SMALL. 
          ADDRESS ON FILE. I GUESS A QUICK QUESTION. WILL WE BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO ANY OF THE RESIDENTS OR IS IT BACK TO THE APPLICANT? WE WERE HOPING TO GO TO THE END TO ADDRESS ANY OF 
          THE COMMENTS. >> AND THESE ARE JUST COMMENTS. 
          >> OKAY. >> ASK SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NOT TOUCHED ON YET IS THE HOME BUILDER THAT WE HAVE SELECTED. 
          AND I USED TO WORK FOR THEM. AND THEY BUILT IN EAGLE LAPPING TO THE WEST OF THIS ON THE ESTATE LOTS THAT THEY JUST DID FOX MEADOWS AND THEY BUILT ON 60-FOOT AND 80-FOOT LOTS AND THE MOST RECENT, WHERE IT WAS AN AVERAGE SALESPERSON FOR US. 
          CURRENTLY OUR TAX BASE IS $5,000 A YEAR WITHOUT EXTENDING ANY INFRASTRUCTURE. AND ONCE THIS PROJECT IS BUILT OUT IN A COUPLE OF YEARS, THEY WILL GENERATE $350,000 FOR THE COUNTY. IT IS INFILL, WHICH MEANS EVERYBODY WILL GUETTA ADVANTAGE. AND AS FAR AS THE COMMUNITY FEEL, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT TO BUILD A HORSE FENCE TO DO IT RIGHT TO KEEP THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA. NOTHING OVER THE TOP, YOU KNOW, NO BRIGHT SHINING LIGHTS, NOTHING GLISTENING. IT WILL BE THAT HORSE, COUNTRY FEEL AND THAT, YOU KNOW, KEEPS BEING BROUGHT UP. WE DID HAVE A COUPLE OF DISCUSSIONS AND WILL STICK BY MY WORD AND WE WILL DO WHAT IS RIGHT. THEY WERE FOR DUPLEXES, APARTMENTS, TOWN HOMES, WHERE WE ARE BRINGING IN THE LOWEST THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN, WHICH IS GOING WITH WHAT IS THERE. WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE GRIFFINS TO THE EAST OF THIS PARCEL AND TO HAVE THEM ADD ON BECAUSE THIS IS THEIR OPPORTUNITY. AND IF THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO JOIN IN THIS APPLICATION AND REBUILD THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN THEY ARE LANDLOCKED AND THAT IT IS WHAT THEY HOPE TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY AND WITH THEIR FOUR CHILDREN THAT ARE LIVING THERE. 
          IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> I FINISH MY TIME. 
          >> DESIREE GRIFFIN? >> PULL THE MIC DOWN. 
          >> I'M DESIREE GRIFFIN, 3454 TRAIL RIDGE. I'LL APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE. I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE. I'M THE HOMEOWNER. SO BASICALLY WHAT I WANTED TO TELL YOU GUYS IS MY HUSBAND AND I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY A COUPLE YEARS AGO. I THINK IT WAS AROUND 2020. AND WITH THE INSPECTIONS AND STUFF THERE WERE SOME ISSUES ABOUT THE SEPTIC, WHICH WOULD LAST A COUPLE OF YEARS AND STUFF AND WE WERE CONCERNED AND SO THE WHOLE PURPOSE OVERBUYING THE PROPERTY WAS TO BUILD OUR DREAM HOME ON THE LAND THAT WAS THERE. AND WE CONTACTED THE CITY TO TRY TO GET MORE INFORMATION. WE WERE TOLD IN ORDER TO BUILD THE HOUSE LIKE WE WANTED TO OR EVEN TO FIX THE SEPTIC THAT WE HAVE, WE WOULD HAVE TO TAP CITY AND WATER, 
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THAT WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO PUT IN ANOTHER SEPTIC TANK. AND THAT IS 15,000 PER TAP AND JUST AT THE ROAD. THAT IS NOT ACTUALLY INCLUDING PIPING, GOING BACK TO OUR HOME. AND SO ESSENTIALLY THAT'S AN EXTRA $30,000. WITH THAT PRIOR TO EVEN THE COMPANY CONTACTING US, WE WERE LOOKING AT SELLING OFF THE PROPERTY THAT WAS BACK THERE AND BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE WANTED TO BUILD OUR DREAM HOME AND WE WERE NOT USING THE BACK PORTION, SO WE FIGURED THIS IS A WAY TO SELL OFF OR PAY OFF OUR MORTGAGE AND BUILD OUR HOME. AND BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT DREAM HOME. IF THIS IS NOT APPROVED TODAY, THEN THAT LAND IS ESSENTIALLY LANDLOCKED AND THERE IS NO WAY FOR ME TO SELL IT. THERE IS NOTHING THAT I COULD DO WITH IT IN ORDER TO BETTER OUR PURPOSE OF PURCHASING THE HOME. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ALSO WANTED TO -- WE HAVE FOUR CHILDREN. AND WITH THE WAY THE ECONOMY IS, US BUYING THE PROPERTY LIKE EVERYBODY WANTS LAND. ULTIMATELY WE WANTED TO HAVE A COMMUNITY WHERE EVERYBODY COULD LIVE ON THE LAND TOGETHER. AGAIN, WE'RE LIMITED BY THE AMOUNT OF HOME AND SO TO EACH PERSON, WE CAN'T DO THAT IF THEY ARE NOT PAID OFF. AT THIS POINT, WE CANNOT BUILD ANOTHER HOME BECAUSE IT'S AN EXTRA $30,000. THIS IS GIVING US LITERALLY EVERYTHING THAT WE WANTED WHEN WE WOULD BUY THE PROPERTY. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THESE 45 HOMES ARE DOING IN REGARDLESS. 
          AND THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEING AFFECTED IS MY PROPERTY. MY NEIGHBORS, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE CONCERNS. BUT MY PROPERTY IS STILL THERE BETWEEN THEM AND THE DEVELOPMENT. THE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING IN WHETHER OR WHY. AND SO I'M THE ONE THAT'S BEING AFFECTED. BECAUSE THOSE HOMES WILL BE CLOSEST TO ME, MY FAMILY, AND I NEED TO MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEST FOR MY FAMILY AND ME. IT'S PAYING OFF MY HOUSE. 
          LETTING ME GET MY DREAM HOME, AND ALLOWING MY KIDS TO HAVE 
          PROPERTY OF THEIR OWN. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> LORI VICARS? 
          JUST GO? >> YES. THANK YOU, SORRY. I GET NERVOUS IN FRONT OF PEOPLE. BUT I DID LIKE WHEN I WENT TO THE MEETING THAT THEY HAD FOR THE COMMUNITY, THE LAST ONE WHERE THEY GAVE US BASICALLY THE EXTRA ACRE BACK, WHICH GAVE US THE 100-FOOT BUFFER. THAT REALLY IS IT BECAUSE OUR BACKYARD LITERALLY HITS RIGHT ON IT. SO WE'RE THE START OF WHERE IT IS HAPPENING. I DID APPRECIATE THAT. THEY REALLY LISTENED TO US. THE TRAFFIC STILL IS A CONCERN. BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THE TWO CREEKS. WE ALREADY HAVE THEM COMING DOWN OUR ROADS AT 25 MILES AN HOUR, AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. AND WE HAVE DEER, WILDLIFE JUMPING BACK AND FORTH THROUGH THAT HAD ROAD. THERE IS ALREADY A WOUNDED DEER WITH TWO FAWNS RIGHT NOW THAT SHE'S HAVING TO CARE FOR HER YOUNG BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN HIT BY A CAR. LOTS OF TOURISTS. THE NOISE. PRIOR TO THE HOMEOWNER BUYING THE TEN ACRES, NOW WE HEAR EVERYTHING. 
          AND THAT IS US HEARING EVERYTHING FOR JUST THEIR FAMILY. THE OTHER CONCERN THAT I WOULD HAVE WITH THAT MEETING AND WHAT THE HOMEOWNER WAS SAYING ABOUT WITH A SHE'S KEEPING WITH WHAT SHE'S PLANNING TO DO WITH HER PROPERTY IS SPLIT THE ACRE AMONG HER CHILDREN. NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MORE ADDITIONAL FAMILIES COMING IN. I'M SPEAKING MY PEACE OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERN ME AND MY FAMILY AND WHAT WE PLAN TO DO, PASS DOWN OUR HOME TO SOMEBODY ELSE. 
          WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE SIZE OF OUR FOOTPRINT. WHEN WE MOVE OUT, OUR SON WILL MOVE IN. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CHANGE IT. 
          WE WANT IT TO STAY THE SAME. BUT WE DO APPRECIATE THE 
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          100-FOOT BUFFER. THANK YOU. >> SORRY. 
          >> STACEY SPOONER? >> HEY THERE, I'M STACEY SPOONER. AND BASICALLY I'M ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE THEY ARE WANTING TO PUT THE SIX ACRES OR THE FIVE ACRES. MY CONCERN IS MY FAMILY HAS OWNED THAT PROPERTY WHERE WE LIVE SINCE THE 60S. THEY HAVE LIVED THERE SINCE THE 70S. THEY'VE HAD THE PEACE WITH ALL THE ANIMALS. THEY ARE COMING, GOING. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SAY WITH THIS SUBDIVISION THAT CAME IN. WE SHOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF PEACE TO BE ABLE TO SAY WHEN IT COMES TO CHANGES COMING AROUND US. EVERYBODY IS WANTING TO MAKE CHANGES ON EVERYTHING, AND IT HAS BROUGHT IN MORE TRAFFIC. 
          THE OTHER DAY, I ALMOST GOT A HEAD ON COLLISION BECAUSE SOMEONE WAS COMING AROUND THE OTHER CAR WHEN I WAS GOING STRAIGHT. AND SO YOU WOULD NEED TO BRING IN 54 MORE HOMES, THAT IS EVEN GOING TO BE WORSE AND THAT IS A 25 MILES AN HOUR ROAD. YES. BUT THEY DRIVE 90. ESPECIALLY FROM THAT SUBDIVISION. THIS MIGHT SOUND CRAZY, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE TURTLES? THEY'RE PROTECTED. YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO WITH THEM? I HAVE THEM IN MY YARD. I CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THEM. SO HOW CAN THEY? AND WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO WITH THEM? IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY TO HAVE THEM REMOVED. SO I MEAN I'M JUST ASKING TO DENY THIS APPLICATION. AND ON THE BENEFIT OF ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND THERE. AND BECAUSE IF THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD ON THAT 30 ACRES THAT THEY WOULD HAVE, I DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY NEED ANOTHER FIVE. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> IRA CLOUD? 
          >> IRA CLOUD, 3527 TRAIL RIDGE ROAD. I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS. I TALKED TO THE FOLKS, AND I DO LIKE THE DIFFERENCE, WOULD SAY I WISH IT WASN'T DONE. I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THEY ARE OFFERING THERE IS BETTER IF THERE IS A WAY TO GUARANTEE WHAT'S BEING SAID IS DONE AND NOT CHANGE SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD. AND OUR PROPERTY BACKS UP TO THE SEVEN OR EIGHT HOUSES AND WHERE IT WILL BE. IT WOULD NOT BE LANDLOCKED IF THEY CAME TO OUR PROPERTY ON THE BACKSIDE AND WE HAVE THAT HAD OPTION. 
          AND HOWEVER, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU GUYS. THESE MILLION DOLLAR HOUSES THAT ARE COMING UP, WILL THAT AFFECT MY PROPERTY VALUES AND TAXES? DOES ANYBODY KNOW? I'M ALREADY PAYING $4,000 A YEAR. THAT'S A LOT. THE OTHER THING IS THIS. 
          THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, THEY WOULD TALK ABOUT THEIR SCHOOLS THAT WERE ALREADY OVERLOADED AND ALL READY TO CAPACITY AND THEY COULD TAKE A FEW OF THE ELEMENTARY AND JUNIOR HIGH AND HIGH WAS AT CAPACITY. WE'VE GOT DREAM FINDERS JUST DOWN THE ROAD OF OUR HOUSE AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EXPRESSWAY THERE AND THAT NEW 23 AND THEY ARE GOING CRAZY WHERE I HAVE WORKED WITH THEM FOR 20 SOMETHING YEARS. I KNOW THEM. AND WHO WILL STAND THERE WITH THE GUN AND SAY THAT YOU CANNOT TOUCH THESE 100 FEET OR WHATEVER? AND WILL IT ALL BE FENCED OFF? , I DON'T KNOW THAT. AND HOW ABOUT THE APARTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT AROUND FROM US ALREADY AND 
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THOSE APARTMENTS, THEY'RE SAYING WE ARE PROBABLY UP TO 2,000 PEOPLE. SOME OF THEM WILL HAVE A BABY OR CHILDREN. AND THEY WILL GO TO THESE SCHOOLS THAT WE CANNOT PUT THEM IN AND BECAUSE WE ARE AT CAPACITY. WHEN IS THE LAST TIME WE BUILT THE OTHER FIRE DEPARTMENT? THAT WE HAVE HIRED NEW POLICE? I MEAN WE'RE CONTINUING TO GROW AND GROW AND GROW AND AS A COUNTY, AND I LOVE THAT. BUT FOLKS, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT BOTH SIDES OF THAT. WE CANNOT BE JUST THE DOLLARS COMING IN AND WE NEED TO MAKE SOME PREPARATION FOR THE PEOPLE COMING IN AND THAT WILL BE THE FIRST TIME THAT I HAVE EVER GOTTEN THERE BEFORE MY TIME WAS UP. BUT THAT'S WHERE I AM AND THAT IT ALL NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED AS A WHOLE AND SOMEBODY SAYING AMEN. I'M A RETIRED PASTOR ALSO. BUT ANY 
          WAY, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> I HAVE NO FURTHER CARDS. ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO 
          ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? >> FOR THIS ITEM? 
          >> BRING YOUR CARD ALONG UP. >> I DON'T THINK HE WAS HERE 
          WHEN WE SWORE HIM IN. >> YOU NEED TO SWEAR HIM IN. 
          >> WE WILL HAVE TO SWEAR YOU IN FOR A SECOND. I APPRECIATE 
          THAT. THANK YOU. >> RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          REPEAT AFTER ME. OR ANSWER THE QUESTION. THAT'S A DIFFERENT SWEARING IN. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING, 
          BUT THE TRUTH? >> I DO, SO HELP ME GOD. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS KEN AND MY ADDRESS SON FILE. I LIVE ON FLEMMING ISLAND. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO ADDRES HERE TONIGHT IS SOME CONCEPT -- 
          >> CAN YOU REMOVE YOUR CAP, PLEASE? 
          >> AND ONE OF THE CONCEPTS THAT WE ADDRESSED PREVIOUSLY WHEN THE BOARD ADDRESSED AN ISSUE THAT WAS RELATED TO THE INFRINGEMENT OF OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS OF THE GOVERNMENT. AND THIS BOARD DECLARED CLAY COUNTY WITH THE FOUR SECOND AMENDMENT COUNTY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. HE WAS ON BOARD AT THAT TIME AND THE VOTE WAS 4-1 IN FAVOR OF THE WORD SANCTUARY THAT WAS REMOVED FROM THE RESOLUTION TO ALLOW FOR PASSAGE. AND I'M HERE TO REQUEST THE BOARD CONSIDER THE SITUATION. THAT THERE IS A MOVEMENT THAT'S GROWING THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES WHERE COUNTIES HAVE DECLARED THEMSELVES THE COUNTIES TO WARD OFF BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 
          AND 2024 SAN ELECTION YEAR. THERE ARE CONCERNS THAT THE SITUATIONS LIKE THE 2020 LOCKDOWN COULD REOCCUR, SO IT IS OUR ABILITY TO VOTE IN THE NOVEMBER GENERAL ELECTION. AND AS AN EXAMPLE, FOUR CITIES IN MASSACHUSETTS, THEY HAVE DECLARED THE NEED FOR SOME TYPE OF CURFEW FOR THEIR CITIZENS BECAUSE OF THE VIRUSES THAT WERE BORNE BY MOSQUITOES. AND WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS THE KIND OF GOVERNMENT OVERREACH. WE WOULD SEE THE IMPACT OF COVID-19 AND THE EPIDEMIC GLOBALLY AS WELL AS LOCALLY AND HOW THAT HAS IMPACTED THE COMMODITIES, THEIR EDUCATION AS WELL AS OUR ECONOMY. AND I REALIZED THAT REQUESTING YOU TO CONSIDER THIS RESOLUTION IS SOMETHING THAT CANNOT BE ACTED ON IMMEDIATELY AND I'M OFFERING THE BOARD TWO ALTERNATIVES FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          AND IT IS A RESOLUTION THAT HAS BEEN ADOPTED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND STARTING IN 2021. IT IS THE FOLLOW UP TO THE E-MAILS FOR EACH AWE WARD. AND THE CONFERENCE, EXCUSE ME, IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA. AND IT IS PRESENTED TO OFFER GUIDELINES FOR ADOPTING THESE OLD COUNTY PRINCIPLES. AND THE CONCEPT HAS BEEN ADOPTED AS IT WILL BE REVIEWED BY THE COUNY THROUGHOUT THE NATION. AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THEIR OVERREACH THERE AND LONG LASTING IMPACT ON THE THE ECONOMY AND OUR NATION. WE SAW SOME STATES. THAT VIOLATED THE FIFTH, NINTH, TENTH AMENDMENT DURING THE PANDEMIC. THE FOUR COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAVE ADOPTED THESE CONCEPTS. AND ADDITIONALLY, THE COUNTY IN MARCH OF 2021 AND ALSO OTTAWA COUNTY IN MICHIGAN AND IN MARCH HAS ADOPTED THE 
          COUNTY RESOLUTIONS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS SUBJECT? 
          >> HELLO, MR. CHAIRMAN. I DIDN'T PLAN FOR THAT 
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FILIBUSTER THIS EVENING. SO IN CLOSING AGAIN, I WANT TO ADDRESS A FEW OF THE CONCERNS AND AS THE DEVELOPERS, THEY WILL MITIGATE THOSE ISSUES ACCORDINGLY AND WE'RE AWARE OF THE COST OF DOING SUCH, BUT THOSE WILL BE MITIGATED AS STATED. AND ALSO REGARDING FENCING AND PREMIER FENCING WILL BE DIVIDED THROUGHOUT THE PARCEL AND ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST AND IN ADDITION TO THE BUFFER, WE WILL HAVE THAT AS WELL AS THE ADDITIONAL BARRIER, SO I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. I'M BIG ON PROPERTY RIGHTS AND REPUBLICANS AND CONSERVATIVES, THEY ARE BIG ON PROTECTING OUR PROPERTY RIGHTS. 
          BUT I HOPE THIS EVENING, THEY WILL GET YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS AND WE WOULD TAKE IN CONSIDERATION, THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S PROPERTY RIGHTS AS WELL AND THEY ARE HAVING THEIR RIGHTS TO DO WHAT THEY WISH TO DO WITH THEIRS AS WE HEARD FROM THE GRIFFINS THIS EVENING THAT THEY HOPE THEY COULD PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILIES AND TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR FUTURE PLANS IN PROVIDING WHETHER THIS WILL PASS THIS EVENING OR NOT THAT THEY WILL DO THAT AIR SPLIT. IF THAT IS SOMETHING THEY CHOOSE TO DO IN THE FUTURE, THEN THEY WILL. LET'S HOPE TO HAVE YOUR SUPPORT THIS EVENING AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE PROPERTY RIGHTS IN OUR COUNTY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS SUBJECT? TINA, NO, YOU SPOKE. 
          >> CAN I ASK A QUESTION OR NO? >> WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING BACK THE COMMISSION. 
          >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT STAFF? THE COUNTY MANAGER? THE COUNTY ATTORNEY? ANYBODY? 
          >> MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD. AND COULD YOU RUN DOWN ONCE AGAIN FOR ME AND WHAT THEY GAIN BY ADDING THE FIVE ACRES TO THE 
          EXISTING 45? >> WELL PRIMARILY IT IS WHAT HE POINTED OUT THAT THEY CAN SPREAD THE COSTS OUT OVER MORE UNITS AND WITH A THEY'RE ACQUIRING THE ADDITIONAL SEVEN HOUSES POTENTIALLY THROUGH THAT ACTION. ACTUALLY EIGHT ALL TOGETHER. BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEIR FINANCES, 
          BUT THAT WOULD BE MY GUEST. >> AND THERE IS NOTHING THAT ADDS TO THE 45 THAT THEY WOULD NOT GET ALREADY? THAT THEY WOULD DO THE 30 ACRES THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED, ABSOLUTELY, YEAH. FOR AND SO MR. CHAIR IF I COULD. WE'VE SEEN THIS A LOT IN THE LAST FEW MEETINGS WHERE THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS LOOKING TO REZONE FOR MOST OF THE TIME TO A LOT OF DEVELOPER OR THE BUILDER TO COME FROM THAT PROPERTY. AND THEY SORT OF HIT THE HOT BUTTON WITH ME IN THAT SENSE THAT HE WOULD LOOK RIGHT AT US AS CONSERVATIVES AND THE LANDOWNER RIGHTS AND THAT I STRONGLY BELIEVE IN THAT AND IT IS ALSO THE RIGHTS OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE TO HAVE THEIR RIGHTS ALSO PROTECTED. AND SO WHEN THE FOLKS THAT BOUGHT THE TEN ACRES BOUGHT IT WITH HOPES OF PUTTING THEIR DREAM HOME ON IT AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU COULD DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THAT PROPERTY BEFORE YOU BUY IT AND THEN YOU ARE HELD IN TO WHATEVER THE RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE FOR THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL. THEY ALREADY HAVE 30 ACRES AND THEY PUT TOGETHER A PLAN FOR 45 HOMES. 
          THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT THEM TO EXPAND AS THEY WOULD PREFER NOT TO SEE THEM THERE AT ALL AND WITH LOOKING AT THOSE PROPERTIES ACROSS THE STREET FROM THEM AND ENJOYING ALL THE ANIMALS AND THOSE THINGS. IN MY MIND, THE 30 ACRES THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BUILD ON IS SORT OF THE COMPROMISE, YOU KNOW, FIVE ACRES, THEY WILL GO BACK TO THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEY WILL BUILD ON THE 30, WHICH HAS CHANGED. AND SO THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT DECISION BY THIS BOARD. CERTAINLY WE WOULD TRY TO RESPECT THEIR RIGHTS, WHICH IS A TWO-WAY STREET AND AS THEY 
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INCUR THEIR PROPERTY RIGHTS, THOSE PEOPLE HAVE THE SAME DREAMS THAT THEY WANT TO ENJOY INTO THE FUTURE. AS OF THIS MOMENT, I'M NOT SURE WHICH WAY I WANT TO GO, BUT I'M LEANING TOWARDS NOT ALLOWING THEM TO CHANGE THE ZONING ON THOSE FIVE ACRES. I'M INTERESTED TO HEAR SOME OTHER THOUGHTS AND 
          COMMENTS ON THAT. >> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY? 
          >> AND SO AS THE COMMISSIONER OF THE DISTRICT HAD SOME VERY SPECIFIC REQUESTS IN BRINGING THIS PROJECT TO TRAIL RIDGE. 
          AND TO THEIR CREDIT, THEY ADDRESSED ALL OF MY CONCERNS. 
          AND THE ONES THAT I PRESENTED TO THEM AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE BROUGHT UP TONIGHT IS IN HOSTING THE MEETING, ALL, BUT ACTUALLY NO ONE EXCEPT FOR ONE WHO SPOKE TONIGHT ATTENDED THAT MEETING. AND THEY DIDN'T ATTEND THE MEETING IN LIEU OF SHOWING UP, THEY CALLED ME AND THEY WERE PROTESTING THIS PROJECT. AND THEY HAVE BEEN CALLING ME SINCE THE SIGN WENT UP THE EARLY PART OF THE MONTH. AND THE COMMISSION TO ALLOW IN THIS COMP CHANGE IS WHAT DOES COME BEFORE US IN WEIGHING ALL THE INTERESTS. I APPRECIATE THE REMINDER OF PROPERTY RIGHTS. 
          BUT I THINK OUR RESPONSIBILITY ALSO REQUIRES A BALANCE OF THOSE INTERESTS. AND SO TONIGHT, I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE PROPOSAL FOR THE ADDITIONAL LOTS. THAT IS MY 
          MOTION TONIGHT. >> I'LL SECOND THE MOTION, MR. 
          CHAIR? >> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY THE CHANGE. CORRECT? AND ANYONE ELSE? 
          >> I SPOKE WITH JOSH, YOU KNOW, I HEARD EVERYTHING YOU SAID AND BRIAN. AND THIS IS DEFINITELY A TOUGH ONE FOR ME. MY DISTRICT IS BLOWN UP RIGHT NOW. AND IT IS TOUGH. I HAD NO CHOICE TO PRESERVE ANY KIND OF PROPERTY IN MY DISTRICT IS GONE. AND SO I HEAR THESE PEOPLE. I MEAN WE HAVE A CHOICE TO BE ABLE TO KEEP SOME OF OUR COUNTY INTACT. AND IT IS SO FRUSTRATING TO ME THAT FOR SO MUCH OF IT WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT I HEARD FROM THESE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, THAT I HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND NOW THAT I HAVE A CHOICE, I FEEL I NEED TO GO ALONG WITH THIS DENIAL. 
          >> ONE, I DON'T LIKE TO SEE A CHANGE THAT I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO REVIEW AND THAT URS ME A LITTLE BIT. AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS DENYING THE CURRENT NEIGHBORS THEIR PROPERTY RIGHTS. I THINK THE PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY THAT IS GIVING THEM THE BENEFIT. IT IS SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY THAT IS GIVING THEM THE BENEFIT. WHETHER IT WILL BE THE BEAUTY OF THE TREES OR THE DOE AND HER TWO FAWNS, I DON'T KNOW. THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T GROW UP IN THEIR BACKYARD. AND SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE A PROPERTY RIGHT HERE WITH THAT. BUT LIKE I SAID, I DON'T LIKE TO SEE THINGS CHANGE BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD WILL GET THE CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT. AND SO I'M GOING TO GO ALONG WITH THAT AS WELL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? 
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          >> AYE. >> ANY NAYS LIKE SIGN? AND IT 
          [30.  Final Public Hearing to consider ZON 24-0010. (B. Carson)]
          IS DENIED. >> ITEM NUMBER 30. PUBLIC 
          HEARING CITY ZONING 24-0010. >> GOOD EVENING, BETH CARSON, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND ZONING. AND THIS IS A COUNTY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT TO ARTICLES III AND ARTICLE VIII OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ADDRESS SAFETY CONCERNS WITHIN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT DUE TO INADEQUATE OFFSTREET PARKING. 
          AND THIS WAS PRESENTED TO YOU BACK IN MAY FOR AN INFORMATION ITEM. AND THIS IS FOR CONSIDERATION FOR ADOPTION TONIGHT. SO THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT CHANGES. THERE ARE TWO ARTICLES INVOLVED, ARTICLE III. THE CHANGE TO OFFSTREET PARKING WOULD BE IN THAT PARAGRAPH ONE. A LITTLE BIT OF REWORDING. SO IT WILL FOLLOW A COMBINATION OF ONE CAR GARAGE OR DRIVEWAY SHALL COUNT AS TWO OFFSTREET PARKING SPACES. 
          PROVIDED THE DRIVEWAY MEASURES A MINIMUM OF 20 FEET IN LENGTH BETWEEN THE FACE OF THE GARAGE OR CARPORT AND A LINE OR ANY ACCESS EASEMENT BOUNDARY. AND THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO CAR GARAGE SHALL COUNT AS OFFSTREET PARKING SPACES, PROVIDE THE MINIMUM WITHIN THAT LENGTH IS AS SPECIFIED ABOVE. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE A PAD THAT IS 25 FEET FROM THE STRUCTURE TO THE PROPERTY LINE, AND 20 FEET IN WIDTH, SO YOU COULD EASILY PARK TWO VEHICLES WITHIN THAT SPACE AND THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO ATTAIN. HERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF THE DIAGRAM TO HELP EXPLAIN THAT. SO RIGHT NOW, SINGLE-FAMILY REQUIRES IN THE UPPER RIGHT CORNER, TWO PARKING SPACES FOR SINGLE-FAMILY ONE, TWO, THREE BEDROOM. DUPLEX IS ALSO TWO BEDROOM. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THREE BEDROOM HOUSE. AND COULD REQUIRE ONLY TWO PARKING SPACES. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THE TWO IN THE GARAGE AND TWO IN THE DRIVEWAY. THE DIAGRAM ON THE LEFT IS THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE, THE SECOND PART OF IT. 
          AND IT IS THE 25-FOOT TO THE PROPERTY LINE. THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS THE 25-FOOT WHEN THERE IS AN EASEMENT INSTEAD OF THE RIGHT AWAY. NORMALLY YOUR SUBDIVISION IS THE SCENARIO ON THE LEFT WHERE YOU HAVE A 60-FOOT RIGHT OF WAY AND YOUR PAVEMENT IS IN THE MIDDLE WITH YOUR 24-FOOT LANES. THIS WAY WE WILL HAVE THE SPACE WITH THE STREET TREES AND THE SIDEWALK IS PUSHED ALL THE WAY TO THE PROPERTY LINES, SO WE MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT PARKING OVER THE SIDEWALK THAT YOU WILL HAVE ALL YOUR SPACE ON THE PROPERTY AND THE SIDEWALK IS OUTSIDE THE PROPERTY. THIS IS NOT PRE VENTING THE DEVELOPMENT FROM HAVING HOUSES, WHERE THE SETBACK IS CLOSER THAN 25 FEET TO THE PROPERTY LINE. IN MANY OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS, WHERE THE STRUCTURE IS LESS THAN THE 25 FOOT. THAT'S INTENTIONAL TO CREATE A CERTAIN WALKABLE TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD, WHERE THE HOUSES ARE PUSHED, YOU KNOW, CLOSER TO THE STREET. BUT THE CONCERN IS THAT THE DRIVEWAY BE ADEQUATE SIZED. SO IN THIS CASE IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIAGRAM, THE HOUSE CLOSER TO THE STREET AND THE DRIVEWAY PORTION IS SENT BACK, SO YOU HAVE THAT SPACE. 
          SO TO ENSURE THE 25-FOOT PARKING SPACE ON THE DRIVEWAY, THE MINIMUM DRIVING SETBACK THROUGHOUT MANY OF OUR DISTRICTS WILL NEED TO BE ADJUSTED. SO WITHIN THE AR1 AND RD, RE, AND THE BFRS, THE PROPOSED CHANGE WOULD BE AS FOLLOWS. THE 20-FOOT WOULD APPLY TO THE FRONT FACADE OF THE BUILDING. AND THE 25 FOOT, THE ADDITION IS THE 25 FOR THE ATTACHED OR DETACHED FRONT FACING GARAGE. IT WOULD BE SETBACK. WITHIN THE RMAP, YOUR RESIDENTIAL MOBILE HOME PARK DISTRICT. AND THE VERY LAST LINE, WE'VE ADDED THAT THE INDIVIDUAL STRUCTURES WITHIN THE PARKS SHALL SET BACK NOT LESS THAN 25 FEET FROM ALL PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAYS OR THE PAVEMENT EDGES OF THE PRIVATE STREETS. WITHIN THE BFMPC VILLAGE DISTRICT. THEY HAVE THREE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS, VILLAGE IS ONE OF THEM, AND THAT IS INTENDED TO HAVE HIGHER DENSITY. IN THIS CASE WHEN YOU WOULD GET IN THE MASTER PLAN, YOU'LL START HAVING THE SETBACKS FOR THE FRONT PORCHES, THE FRONT FACADE, AND THE GARAGE. SO IT IS A TEN-FOOT 
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FRONT. AND IT APPLIES TO THE FACADE OF THE STRUCTURE. 25 FEET IS FOR THE DETACHED, FRONT FACING GARAGE. AND THEN 15 FEET INSTEAD OF FIVE FEET FOR ALL NON-RESIDENTIAL. WITHIN THE RURAL RESERVE, RURAL COMMUNITY, AND RURAL FRINGE, THIS IS WHAT THE CHANGE WOULD BE. AGAIN, YOU HAVE FRONT PORCHES AND THE FRONT FACADE. AND WITHIN THE LAMPC, YOU HAVE A FIVE-FOOT FRONT PORCHES AND 10-FOOT FACADE AND 25 FEET. WITHIN THE BFAC, THIS IS THE CHANGE THAT WOULD BE THERE AGAIN, ADDING THE 25-FOOT. WITHIN THE BF MIXED USE. WE ARE ADDING THE 25 FOOT DETACHED FRONT FACING GARAGE OR CARPORT AND STRIKING THE LINE. NECESSARY TO MEET THE STANDARDS TO PROTECT THE STREET TREES, WHICH IS NOT REALLY TELLING YOU MUCH THERE. AND WITHIN THE LAKE ACTIVITY CENTER, WHAT WE'VE SEEN TO THE MASTER PLAN OF THE GRANITE FIELD. AND WE'VE GOT YOUR FACADE. WE'VE GOT YOUR NON-RESIDENTIAL. WE HAVE A LOT OF DISTRICTS, DON'T WE? AND THE MINIMUM FRONT SETBACK, THE SAME. 15, 10, 25 FOR THE GARAGE. AND THE ACTIVITY CENTER AND THE LAKE ASBURY CENTER AND THE ACTIVITY CENTER. IT HAD IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE POTENTIALLY SOME APRTMENTS. 
          AND AS WELL AS VERY SMALL SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A 25-FOOT FRONT FACADE. AND FOR YOUR MAXIMUM SETBACK. AND THE IDEA IS TO KEEP THE STRUCTURES FROM NOT MOVING TOO FAR BACK FROM THE STREET LIKE I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. AND WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM ZONE24010. THE PLANNING VISION VOTED 5-0 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ZONE 2410. THAT WE DID SHARE THIS AND THEY HAD A CONCERN ABOUT THEY WEREN'T OPPOSED TO HAVING THE OFFSTREET PARKING, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY WERE FINE WITH THAT AND THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE WIDTH OF 25 FEET AND BECAUSE OF HAVING IT TAKE UP LIKE HALF OF THE FRONT YARD IF YOU HAVE A 40-FOOT LOT AND THAT IS OBVIOUSLY 20 FEET. BUT WE DON'T MANDATE THAT THEY BUILD THOSE LOTS AND THAT IS THEIR 
          CHOICE. >> AND ANY QUESTIONS FOR BETH? 
          >> MR. CHAIR. AND DIDN'T NEPA OR ANY OF THE BUILDERS WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE 40 FOOT, DID THEY HAVE AN ALTERNATE THAT THEY WERE PROPOSING OR ARE THEY SUBJECT TO THE 40 FOOT BECAUSE 
          OF THAT CONSTRAINT? >> AND THE OTHER THING WE SAID IS THEY COULD INCREASE THE COST OF THE HOUSE WITH THE ADDITIONAL PAVEMENT THAT THEY'RE PUTTING DOWN, WHICH IS 
          NOT A LARGE COST. >> AND WHEN YOU CAN PARK TWO CARS IN YOUR DRIVEWAY. IS THAT TOO MUCH OF A COST TO ASK? 
          >> WE MET WITH THEM YESTERDAY AS WELL AND ON THE GENERAL QUARTERLY MEETING THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM AND WE TOLD THEM THAT THIS WOULD BE TONIGHT. SO IF THEY KNEW WE WERE BRINGING IT 
          TO YOU. >> I RECEIVED NO CALLS FROM ANY BUILDERS THAT ARE OBJECTING. AND THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT WE'VE SEEN. AND THAT IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE RECOMMENDED. AND THAT IT WILL BE THAT FRONT BACK AND TO PUT TWO CARS SIDE BY SIDE IN THE DRIVEWAY. AND EVEN E PARKING TO PREVENT THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES FROM GETTING BY THE SANITATION TRUCKS, WHATEVER. AND SO I GUESS THAT IT WILL HELP IN THAT REGARD. AND ANY THOUGHTS AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND DOING SOMETHING ADDITIONAL IN TERMS OF BUILDING THE STREET FOR OFFSTREET PARKING AND HAVING THOSE PARKING AREAS, YOU KNOW, SCATTERED THROUGHOUT NEIGHBORHOOD AND JUST LOOKING AHEAD TO WHAT WE MAY LOOK AT DOWN THE FUTURE THAT WILL NOT IMPACT WHAT WE HAVE HERE TONIGHT AND SOME THOUGHTS ON THAT? 
          >> THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CONSIDER WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER CITIES, LARGER CITIES. I LIVED IN PHOENIX AND THEY ACTUALLY BUILT THAT INTO THEIR RESIDENTIAL STREETS. IT IS A MUCH WIDER STREET. AND THE 
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PROBLEM WITH THAT IS YOU THEN POSE, YOU KNOW, THE DRAG STRIP. 
          YOU'LL START HAVING SPEED STRIPS FOR PEOPLE TO DRIVE. AND SO IN A WAY, HAVING THE VEHICLES PARKED ON THE ROAD IS TRAFFIC CALMING AND IT DOES SLOW DOWN YOUR TRAFFIC MOVING THROUGH YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT THE PROBLEM IS WHEN THEY PARK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREETS. SO MAYBE IF THEY COULD INSTITUTE THE SINGLE SIDE PARKING OR HAVE THEM DESIGNATE THE PARKING SPACES THROUGH STRIPING, SO WE CAN ENSURE THAT YOU CAN HAVE PASSAGE THROUGH FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES. 
          >> YEAH. AND I'VE USED THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AS AN EXAMPLE. THE FOLKS ARE HARD WORKING FOLKS. AND I'M SURE THAT THEY WISH WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT WAS BUILT THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT MAYFIELD OFF OF JUST AFTER YOU COME OFF THE BLANDING THAT YOU WOULD GO IN THERE ON A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY AND YOU WOULD HAVE CARS PARKED ON THE FRONT LINES OR THE RIGHT OF WAYS OR THE DRIVEWAYS ON THE STREETS AND THERE IS JUST NOT ENOUGH ROOM AND THOSE ARE 40-FOOT LOTS AND THE FRONTS. AND SO THE HOUSES, THEY ARE RIGHT ON TOP OF THE STREET. SO I THINK THIS IS A BENEFIT AND A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT WILL BUY THAT AND I FULLY SUPPORT IT. 
          >> QUESTIONS? >> SURE. WHEN DOES THIS START? 
          >> THIS WOULD BE FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS NOT GONE 
          THROUGH THE DRC AT THIS TIME. >> OKAY, SO STARTING TOMORROW? 
          >> YEAH, IF IT HASN'T GONE THROUGH THE DRC AND WE NEED TO LET THE DEVELOPERS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLAN THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND KNOWING THEY MAY NEED TO FIND A DEEPER LOT OR DIFFERENT HOUSING PROJECT IN ALL FAIRNESS. THEY ARE STILL 
          DOING THAT REWRITE, CORRECT? >> THEIR CONTRACT WITH WGI IS OVER. THAT'S CONCLUDED, SO STAFF IS REVIEWING IT AT THIS TIME. AND THAT IS WHY WE'RE BRINGING THESE SMALL CHANGES TO YOU THAT ARE HOT ISSUES RIGHT NOW. THEN WE'LL GO BACK AND START FROM THE BEGINNING AND TAKE ON THE WHOLE BALANCE WITH 
          THAT. >> THEY DID AND WE'VE SEEN 
          THAT. >> AND YOU'VE SEEN THAT? 
          >> WE HAVE PRESENTED THAT TO YOU. AND WE HAVE SUBSTANTIAL 
          WORK TO GO THROUGH ON THAT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR BETH? I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS FOR ITEM NUMBER 30. AND THIS CHANGE, SEEING NONE HERE. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND 
          BRING IT BACK TO COMMISSION. >> MR. CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION 
          TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ARTICLE III AND ARTICLE VIII ZONING CHANGES TO 24-0010. ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, OR CONCERNS? HEARING NONE, SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 
          [31.  Final Hearing to consider adoption of ZON 24-0016. (District 1, Comm. Cella) (T. McCoy)]
          >> AYE. >> ANY NAYS? AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER 31? 24-0016. 
          >> YES, SIR, I'M FILLING IN TONIGHT ON THIS. AND THE APPLICANT ON THIS ITEM IS MR. JOHN SCHMIDT. THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR 1.85 ACRES FROM SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL RA TO AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL, AR. AND THE PLANNING DISTRICT IS FLEMMING ISLAND AND IT IS IN THE COMMISSIONER'S DISTRICT, DISTRICT ONE. AND THEY HEARD THIS ITEM BACK ON AUGUST 6. THE PUBLIC WAS NOTIFIED. OUR STANDARD 350-FOOT BUFFER, THE MAP ON THE RIGHT WILL SHOW YOU THAT THE PROPERTY IS NOTIFIED AND THIS IS A COPY OF THE LETTER AND THE SIGNAGE. AND A LITTLE BACK GROUND ON THIS ITEM. THE PURPOSE OF THE REZONING IS TO PRESERVE THE AGRICULTURAL LAND AND MAINTAIN IT IN ITS CURRENT STATE. THEY WILL FACILITATE THE USE OF PROPERTY FOR AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES INCLUDING THE DIRECTION OF THE SHED TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY. THE LAND USE OF THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY RURAL FRINGE, WHICH WILL ALLOW THE DENSITY OF ONE UNIT PER ACRE AND THAT IS 1.85 ACRES, SO BASICALLY THEY COULD ONLY HOUSE ONE HOME. AND SO THIS IS NOT AN INCREASE IN DENSITY THAT IS BEING ASKED. 
          IT'S A CHANGE IN THE ZONING DISTRICT. SO THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT AND IT IS DESIGNATED AR AND INTENDED TO SERVE AS A TRANSITION BETWEEN THE AGRICULTURAL AND URBAN RESIDENTIAL AREAS PROMOTING THE RURAL ENVIRONMENT WHILE RECOGNIZING AND PROTECTING THE NATURAL DEVELOPMENT CONSTRAINTS. AND THE COMMUNITY IMPACT, REZONING OF THE PROPERTY SAN 'TIS PATED TO HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY BY PRESERVING THE AGRICULTURAL NATURE OF THE 
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SITE. AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE ALL RURAL FRINGE FUTURE LAND USE. AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE ALL AR ZONING. 
          AND ALL RESIDENTIAL LAND USE. THE MAP ON THE LEFT IS THE EXISTING ZONING. YOU SEE THEY ALL PATCH. AND THE MAP ON THE RIGHT, IT IS SHOWING THIS PROPERTY THAT IS GOING TO AR. 
          AND THE FINDINGS, THE PROPOSED REZONING FROM AR TO RA IS INCLUDING THE PLACEMENT OF THE SHED AND PRIOR TO THE STRUCTURE. AND THAT IS THE PURPOSE FOR GOING TO THIS ZONING DISTRICT BECAUSE YOU CANNOT PUT A SHED ON THE PROPERTY THAT IS R A. AND THIS CHANGE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO GIVE THE CURRENT LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. AND THEY ARE DESIGNATED TO CREATE THAT RURAL FRINGE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL REQUIRE THE SETBACKS AND THE BUFFER ZONES TO ENSURE ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT IS PROPERLY INTEGRATED INTO THE SURROUNDING AREA. MINIMIZING ANY POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROPERTIES. AND IT REDUCTION IN THE POTENTIAL USES WILL RESULT IN PRESERVING THE RURAL NATURE OF THE AREA. AND BASED ON THE ANALYSIS AND TO ZONING REGULATIONS, IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT THE ZONING APPLICATION BE APPROVED AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED 6-1 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. THE FLEMMING ISLAND WILL RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR 
          THIS ITEM? >> SEEING NONE, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AS I HAVE NO CARD FOR THE REQUEST TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE, BUT I WILL SEE SOMEONE. 
          >> AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS HERE. 
          >> THAT'S THE PROPERTY OWNER? >> YES, MR. SCHMIDT. 
          >> I'M JOHN SCHMIDT. I LIVE IN 1974 ROSE MILE LANE. I OWN THE PROPERTY AT 1544 CEDAR RUN DRIVE. I WOULD LIKE TO PUT A SHED ON IT, AND I TRIED TO DO A CO-CHANGE, AND MIKE BROWN TOLD ME WELL, I COULDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD CHANGE THE CODE FOR EVERYBODY ON RA AND NOT JUST MY PIECE OF PROPERTY. 
          SO I COULD PUT A SHED ON IT. AND SO HE SAID YOU CAN CHANGE IT FROM RA TO AR, JUST YOUR PROPERTY. AND I HAD TALKED TO ALL MY NEIGHBORS AROUND ME, AND NONE OF THEM ANY PROBLEMS WITH WHAT I AM GOING TO DO. AND I'M NOT GOING TO BUILD A HOUSE ON IT. IT HAS 200 TO 300-YEAR-OLD OAK TREES AND HICK TREES, AND I DON'T WANT ANYBODY CUTTING THE TREES DOWN. IN FACT I HAD DOUBLED THE PRICE I PAID FOR IT AND I TOLD THEM NO. I'M NOT SELLING IT. I LOVE THE PIECE OF PROPERTY. I'M A LITTLE OLD NOW, BUT I NEED A SHED TO PUT MY TOOLS IN IT. I HAVE WORKED WITH TOUGH SHED OVER ON LANDING TO BUILD A SHED, AND I'M LOOKING AT SOMETHING LIKE 16 BY 20 WITH A CONCRETE FLOOR. FROM THEN IT WILL LOOK LIKE A BARN. AND NONE OF MY NEIGHBORS, THEY ALL SAY OKAY. THEY HAD NO PROBLEM WITH IT. I'M NOT GOING TO PUT ANY ANIMALS ON IT OR BEEHIVES ON IT. AND I'LL LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS. WE TAKE CARE OF IT AND MY LADY AND I, WE TAKE CARE OF IT AND WE LOVE IT, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO CUT THE BIG OAK TREES DOWN. NONE OF THE HICKORY TREES OR PINE TREES WELL(.) JUST LOVE IT. ANY QUESTIONS? 
          >> I THINK YOUR GOAL IS AUDIBLE. IT MAKES IT A NICE 
          PIECE OF PROPERTY ON THE RIVER. >> YES, SIR. 
          >> AND JUST LOOKING AT THE LOCATION. 
          >> IT IS UNBELIEVABLE. IN FACT WHEN I CAME DOWN HERE, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 40 YEARS. AND WHO USED TO OWN THAT PROPERTY. 
          >> RIGHT. >> AND THEY USED TO OWN THE WHOLE AREA RIGHT THERE. I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT. WHEN THEY FLEW DOWN HERE ON THE AIRPLANE, THEY SAID OH, ARE YOU LOOKING AT CLAY COUNTY? AND TAY SAID I LOVE CLAY COUNTY. HE SAID THAT IS WHERE YOU WOULD WANT TO LIVE. AND THAT IS WHERE I LIVE AND I HAVE BEEN HERE EVER SINCE. ANY QUESTIONS? 
          >> I DON'T THINK SO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
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          >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS SUBJECT? I'M GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          >> MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. AND ALSO IT WAS STANDING IN MY MIND WHEN THAT PHONE CALL CAME IN FROM MR. SCHMIDT AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY ON THE WATER. ALL I WANT IS A SHED. AND THEY WON'T LET ME PUT THIS SHED UP. AND I THOUGHT MY HEARING WAS GONE. I THOUGHT SOMEBODY FROM THE ISLAND THAT DOES NOT WANT TO BUILD ON IT. I COULDN'T GET HIM BACK TO MIKE BROWN FAST ENOUGH TO GET HIM TO WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT. IT'S BEEN A FEW MONTHS, MR. SCHMIDT. BUT WE ARE RIGHT THERE ON THE VERGE OF MAKING YOUR SHED A POSSIBILITY 
          THERE. >> I'LL SECOND HIS MOTION. 
          >> WE'RE AT THE FINISH LINE. ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN 
          FAVOR? >> AYE. 
          >> ANY NAYS? IT'S DONE. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU, MR. SCHMIDT. >> GOD BLESS YOU. 
          [32.  Public Hearing regarding Annual Rate Resolution for Solid Waste Disposal Assessment for FY 2024-25 (C. Grimm/C. Roken)]
          >> ITEM NUMBER 32, PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING ANNUAL RATE RESOLUTION FOR SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL, 24-25. 
          >> YES, SO NUMBER 32 IS THE ANNUAL RATE FOR DISPOSAL ASSESSMENTS. THIS WILL BE AT $96. IT IS FOR THE DISPOSAL SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED FOR THE COUNTY, GREEN COVE SPRINGS, THE TOWN OF ORANGE PARK, AND KEYSTONE. AND IT DOES REQUIRE A 
          PUBLIC HEARING. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I'M GOING TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. I HAVE NO CARDS. AND THIS IS THE RATE INCREASE FOR DISPOSAL, TRASH DISPOSAL. 
          >> IT WILL STAY THE SAME. >> THE DISPOSAL WILL STAY THE 
          SAME. >> YES, IT WILL STAY THE SAME. 
          SEEING NO ONE WILLING TO SPEAK ON THIS. WE'LL BRING IT BACK 
          TO THE COMMISSION. . >> I WILL MOVE APPROVAL. 
          >> I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH THE ASSESSMENT. ANY COMMENTS, 
          QUESTIONS FOR ANYBODY? >> NO. 
          >> AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY? >> I THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY THAT THIS IS THE DISPOSAL PIECE. THIS IS NOT THE 
          COLLECTION AT CURB SIDE. >> RIGHT. 
          >> WHICH IS NEXT. >> YEAH. 
          >> OKAY ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE. 
          [33.  Public Hearing regarding Annual Rate Resolution for Solid Waste and Recovered Materials Collection Services Assessments for FY 2024-25 (C. Grimm/C. Roken)]
          >> IT PASSES 5-0. >>> AND ITEM 33, REGARDING ANNUAL RATE RESOLUTION FOR SOLID WASTE. AND COLLECTION 
          SERVICES. >> YES, THIS IS IN CONNECTION WITH THE COLLECTION SERVICE. IN CONNECTION TO THE COLLECTION SERVICES TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES FOR THE UNINCORPORATED PART OF THE COUNTY AS WELL AS KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. AS YOU'LL RECALL BACK IN FEBRUARY AT THE TIME THE FCC CONTRACT WAS ADOPTED, THE BOARD ENTERED INTO RESOLUTION NUMBER 2023-24-29, WHICH APPROVED THIS RATE WITH THE CONTRACT BEING ENTERED INTO AND THE RATE TO BE SET AT $262, WHICH IS BELOW THE MAXIMUM OF $504 THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY SET. AND AGAIN WE DO NEED A PUBLIC 
          HEARING. >> AND SO IT'S $262? 
          >> YES, SIR. >> $226. ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY? I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS. COME ON UP. 
          >> WILLIAM JONES, 3135 VERONICA AVENUE IN MIDDLEBURG. HOW MUCH OF AN INCREASE IS THIS COMPARED TO LAST YEAR? HELLO? COUNTY 
          ATTORNEY? WHAT IS THE INCREASE? >> LAST YEAR WAS $228 AND THIS 
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          YEAR IT IS $262. >> AND SO THE PRICE IS GOING UP. YOU'RE TAKING AWAY THE RECYCLE. BUT WE ARE GETTING LESS, COSTING US MORE, AND I GO BACK AGAIN TO THE TRASH CANS. 
          YOU CHARGED EVERYBODY FOR THE TRASH CANS. BUT IT IS ONLY ONE TRASH CAN. AND MY OFFER IS STILL OPEN FOR TOMORROW. TO GO UP THE TRASH CANS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THEM. YOU'RE HITTING EVERYBODY UP FOR MORE MONEY AND YOU'RE GIVING US LESS PRODUCT. IN MY MATH, THAT'S UNSET. THANK YOU. 
          >> I HAVE A CARD FROM MONICA WARD. YOU CAN PULL THAT MIC 
          DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT. >> JUST A LITTLE BIT. I KNOW I'M SHORT. YEAH, SO I JUST HAVE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS. SO I GET THERE'S ONLY LIKE A $40 SOMETHING INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR, RIGHT? ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID? 
          >> $36. >> YES, SO ALMOST $40. 
          >> $34. >> OKAY. IN MY BOOK THAT IS ALMOST $40. BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO THE $96 -- 
          >> WHICH DIDN'T CHANGE. >> THAT WE JUST FINISHED DISCUSSING. SO WE'RE AT $400 ALMOST. 
          >> $358. >> $266 -- $262 PLUS $90 -- 
          >> $96. >> IT IS ALMOST $400 IN TAXES ON ALL THAT TOGETHER. AND SO IN THIS LITTLE PIECE OF PAPER THAT WE GOT SENT TO US, INVITING US TO ATTEND THIS MEETING TODAY IN THE FINE PRINT HERE, IT DOES SAY A MAXIMUM RATE OF ASSESSMENT FOR FUTURE FISCAL YEARS OF $504. AND SO DOES THAT MEAN IT IS GOING TO GO UP EVERY YEAR? IS THAT THE POTENTIAL? THAT WE CAN LOOK FORWARD TO? IS THAT WHAT THAT MEANS? I'M 
          TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS. >> WELL IN THE CONTRACT THERE IS AN ESCALATION CLAUSE FOR FOUR INFLATIONS. 
          >> AND SO -- >> IF YOU COULD TELL ME WHAT THE INFLATION WILL DO THREE YEARS FROM NOW, I'LL TELL YOU EXACTLY HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO BE. 
          >> WELL NO, I MEAN I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE LITTLE FINE PRINT THINGS THAT I KNOW PERSONALLY A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO. IT IS KIND OF LIKE THE INGREDIENTS OF THE THINGS THEY EAT THAT THEY SHOULDN'T. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. I'M JUST BE REALISTIC. I'M A DETAILED PERSON AND THAT IS WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING. I SEARCH FOR ERRORS AND QUESTIONABLE THINGS. AND SO MY OTHER QUESTION IS WHY, IF WE DON'T LIVE IN A SUBDIVISION WITH AN HOA, WHAT WE CAN REACH OUT AND TOUCH OUR NEIGHBORS THAT WE WANT TO KEEP THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS NICE AND PRETTY WITH UNIFORMED TRASH CANS, PARKING SPACES DESIGNATED. WHEN WE LIVE ON THREE ACRES IN THE WOOD AND WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT OUR TRASH CANS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN THE FRONT YARD. I MEAN WHY ARE WE HAVING TO ADHERE TO SOMETHING THAT IS NOT GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE? I MEAN IT'S WHERE WE LIVE AT, WE CAN TAKE OUR TRASH TO THE DUMP. 
          WE DON'T NEED TO BEAUTIFY THE DARK ROADS AND THE FOREST WHERE WE LIVE. WE TAKE CARE OF IT OURSELVES. AND SO THAT IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND TOO. WHY IS THIS BEING FORCED UPON THOSE OF US THAT LIVE IN RURAL AREAS? IT JUST IS? IS THAT HOW 
          IT GOES? >> IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU CAN EITHER E-MAIL THE QUESTIONS OR CALL YOUR COMMISSIONER AND YOU CAN GET DIRECT ANSWERS. THIS IS A COMMENT PERIOD, NOT A 
          COMMUNICATION PERIOD. >> OKAY. WELL I THOUGHT IT WAS PUBLIC HEARING, SO I THOUGHT I COULD ASK QUESTIONS. MY 
          MISTAKE. SORRY. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 33? 
          >> DON'T LEAVE, YOUR QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED WHEN WE HAVE 
          OUR TIME TO TALK. YEAH. >> ITEM NUMBER 33, I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. 
          >> SO IF I MAY, THE QUESTION THAT WAS JUST ASKED. BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THAT QUESTION IN THE PUBLIC. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS AT SOME POINT IN THE LATE 1990S, CLAY COUNTY MADE TRASH COLLECTION UNIVERSAL BY ORDINANCE. SO WHOEVER WAS ON THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BACK IN THE 1990S 
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REQUIRED THAT YOU HAVE TRASH COLLECTION IN SOME WAY. AT THAT POINT YOU HAD OPTIONS. YOU COULD CONTRACT WITH WHOEVER WAS OUT THERE SERVING THE PUBLIC. A NUMBER OF COUNTIES IN FLORIDA STILL OFFER THAT TODAY. I BELIEVE NASSAU COUNTY OFFERS THAT AND BRADFORD COUNTY OFFERS THAT. SO AT ANY RATE, THEN IN 2007, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHEN CLAY COUNTY WENT TO REQUIRING UNIVERSAL COLLECTION THAT EVERY HOUSEHOLD HAD TO PARTICIPATE IN ONE COLLECTION SERVICE AND BUILD ON THE PROPERTY TAX BILL. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY MADE THAT CHANGE, BUT THAT PART OF HAVING TO PARTICIPATE IN IT IS NOT NEW. AND SO THAT WILL ANSWER THAT QUESTION. MY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY IN THE COLLECTION, LIKE IN THE COLLECTION FEE THAT WE DON'T SET -- WE HAVE THE ADDITIONAL GARBAGE CART FOR COLLECTION SERVICES. IT IS GOING TO BE PROPOSED TO BE BUILD ON THE PROPERTY TAX BILL AND WHY IS THAT NOT A PART OF THE ORDINANCE? AND BECAUSE OF THE ORDINANCE TO THAT PUBLIC COMMENT POINT THAT THERE IS A MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT THE ORDINANCE COULD BE SET, BUT 
          THAT DOES NOT AFFECT THIS CART. >> AND SO THE SECOND CART? 
          >> THE SECOND CART WILL BE FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT WANT THAT SECOND CART AND SO THAT ALL THE OTHERS THAT ARE BEING SUPPLIED THE ONE CART, THEY DO NOT NEED TO PAY FOR WHOEVER WANTS THAT SECOND CART. WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE SECOND CART UNDER THE AMENDMENT THAT IS TO COME UP. AND IF THAT IS THE WAY THEY DESIRE TO MOVE UNDER THAT, THEN IF YOU DESIRE IT THIS YEAR THAT YOU WILL PAY FOR THAT CART AT THIS TIME AND THE RATE THAT IT WILL COST YOU FROM NOW UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR. AND THEN MOVING FORWARD, IT WILLBE ENTERED ON YOUR TAX BILL, BUT ONLY YOURS WHERE IT WILL NOT GO ON EVERYONE'S. AND IT IS ONLY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WILL CHOOSE TO HAVE THAT SECOND CART. 
          >> THAT IS KIND OF INTERESTING BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING ELSE THAT COULD BE BILLED ON THE PROPERTY TAX BILL LIKE THAT, IS 
          THERE? >> IT IS A PART OF THIS ORDINANCE AND THEY SIGNED THAT ADDITIONAL DOCUMENT THAT'S A USER AGREEMENT TO ALLOW THEM TO GO UNDER THAT ORDINANCE. THAT IS KIND OF CONFUSING, I THINK I'M CONFUSED BY THAT. 
          >> AND IT WILL BE A SECOND ITEM, SO YOU WILL BE CHARGED WITH YOUR REGULAR COLLECTION AMOUNT AND THAT SECOND CART WILL HAVE A SEPARATE ITEM THAT WILL IDENTIFY IT IS FOR YOUR 
          SECOND CART. >> AND KIND OF LIKE IF YOU LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT KIND OF THING? 
          >> YES. >> IT IS A SECOND LINE ITEM AND THAT WILL MAKE SENSE TO ME. OKAY, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS, 
          MR. CHAIRMAN. >> YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT BACK NOT ONLY TO YOU, BUT EVERYONE ELSE WE HAVE HEARD FROM QUITE A BIT AND THIS IS ALL CONFUSING AND ALL NEW AND IT IS A HUGE CHANGE FOR OUR COUNTY. BUT I KEEP ON HEARING PEOPLE SAY THAT WE WANT THE OLD SERVICE AND THAT WE ARE GETTING LESS SERVICE FOR MORE. WELL, WE HAD NO CHOICE. WE ARE AT THE END OF THE CONTRACT, OKAY? AND YOU THEN NEED TO LOOK AND SEND OUT FOR BIDS THAT WE HAD THREE BIDS THAT CAME BACK. WE TOOK THE LOWEST BID. AND THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WILL SAY WELL, IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE BEST. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE OTHER HALF OF EVERYBODY SAYING WE DON'T WANT TO PAY $34 MORE. AND I MEAN LIKE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BID AND ACCEPT THAT BID AND WE NEED THAT GARBAGE COLLECTION FOR THE REASONS THAT THE COMMISSIONER JUST SAID THAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO HAVE IT. WHENEVER YOU, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE THAT SAY THAT WE NEVER KNOW WHEN IT WAS TOLD AND THAT I FOUND A GREAT THING FROM MY CONSTITUENT WHO SAID THAT WE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE SO MUCH GOING ON THAT WE DO FORGET A LOT OF THINGS FROM WAY BACK WHEN. BUT THE STATEMENT WAS SENT OUT AND THAT IT WAS OUT THAT SAID THEY COULD INCREASE OUR GARBAGE COLLECTION IF WE KEPT THE SAME CONTRACT. AND AFTER TWO YEARS, THEY COULD INCREASE IT AND TRIPLE IT AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE THAT SAY SO. AND SO YES, IT WILL BE GREAT TO HAVE AS MUCH AS WE WANT OUT ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. AND SO WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION. AND NOW AUTOMATED 
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PICKUP. IT'S A HUGE CHANGE. AND I'VE SPOKE TO TONS OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT WILL LIVE IN OTHER COUNTIES, AND THAT WILL HAVE THAT AND THEY LOVE IT. YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE IT A CHANCE OR ELSE THAT WE ARE FACED WITH PAYING OR A LOT MORE. AND THAT WE KNEW THAT THEY ALSO COULD CHARGE US AS MUCH AS THEY WANT AND WE WOULD HAVE NO SAY SO AS FAR AS THE LIMIT. AND SO I UNDERSTAND PAYING MORE FOR LESS, BUT THAT THERE WAS NO OTHER CHOICE, YOU KNOW, THAT I WAS NOT PRESENTED WITH A CHOICE, WE KNOW THAT. ANY WAY THAT MY ANSWER TO THE QUESTIONS THAT I THINK THAT WE WILL BE PRESENTING TONIGHT AND 
          SO. >> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY. 
          >> AND JUST TO ECHO THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ADDRESSED SOME OF THE ISSUES AND THE ONE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED IN THAT LAST MEETING THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO REITERATE IS THAT WE HAVE TIM, OUR DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SEE ANNUALLY IS HURRICANE DEBRIS THAT WILL COST THEM MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO CLEAN UP. WHEN I WAS HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HAVING THE UNIVERSAL TRASH PICKUP AND SOMETHING THEY DID NOT KNOW IS THAT WE NO LONGER HAVE ACCESS TO THE TRASH PICKUP IS NOT A PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE COUNTY. AND SO WHAT THAT TRANSLATES TO IS THE PROJECTS AND THAT THEY ARE ASKING ABOUT THAT ROAD BEING REPAVED AND THOSE ARE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WILL NEED TO REIMBURSE THE HURRICANE DEBRIS, THE DIFFERENT WAYS IN WHICH THE COUNTY WILL GET IMPACTED BY THE NATURAL DISASTERS WHERE IT IS NOT ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE AND THE FACT THAT IT IS DEFINITELY COMING. IF WE DON'T HAVE UNIVERSAL TRASH PICKUP, THEN THE FEDERAL DOLLARS, THEY DO NOT COME TO REIMBURSE WHATEVER WE HAVE TO SPEND IN ORDER TO GET THAT COUNTY BACK TO STATUS QUO AND BACK TO WHERE WE WERE BEFORE THE STORM. IN THE CONVERSATION THAT I WOULD HAVE, IT STARTED TO MAKE SENSE. I KNOW THAT IT IS NOT THE APPETIZING DECISION TO HAVE THESE INCREASES, BUT SUCH IS THE WAY OF EVERYONE'S LIFE RIGHT NOW THAT THESE INCREASES, THEY ARE HAPPENING. AND IF WE DON'T MAKE PRUDENT DECISIONS, IT COULD BE FAR WORSE. AGAIN, LAST MEETING I SAID THANK YOU, MR. DEVIN. I APPRECIATE KNOWING HOW THOSE STORMS WILL AFFECT US AND THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT WILL CORRELATE WITH THAT DAMAGE, IT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT AND WE WOULD HATE TO HANG THE CITIZENS OUT TO DRY IF A DECISION LIKE THAT TO SUSPEND UNIVERSAL TRASH PICKUP BECOMES A PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE 
          HERE IN CLAY. >> AND WE FEEL YOUR PAIN. OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A ROAD PROJECT THAT STARTED AT $129 MILLION AND NOW IT IS $179 MILLION. AND IT'S THAT NASTY EYE WORD, INFLATION THAT IT WILL AFFECT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO AND WE STUDIED THIS FOR 15 MONTHS, 18 MONTHS. AND I THINK THAT WE'VE GOT THE BEST DEAL FOR THE CONSTITUENTS THAT WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN. AND SO YEAH, WE FEEL IT AND WE PAY THE SAME PRICE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT 
          ELSE TO SAY. >> AND PACK TO THE ITEM THAT WE WOULD HAVE FOR THE ANNUAL RATE RESOLUTION. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IF I COULD. MY MOTION IS TO NOT ACCEPT THESE, AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE OF THIS. SO A YEAR AGO WHEN WE SET THE SAME, WE HAD TO SET THE SAME RATE. WE DID HEAR FROM A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE. AND A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE ASKING US, THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TRASH. REMEMBER THE ONE PERSON THAT CAME TO HAVE THEIR ONE BAG AND HELD UP THEIR BAG OF TRASH AND SAID I ONLY GENERATE ONE BAG OF TRASH EVERY WEEK, AND I HAVE TO PAY THE SAME RATE AS A PERSON WHO COULD 
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PUT OUT HOWEVER MUCH THEY PUT OUT. WE NOW HAVE A CONTRACT THAT IS GOING TO START ON OCTOBER 1. IT PASSED IN FEBRUARY. AND IT IS GOING TO CHARGE THE SAME AMOUNT AND THEN IT'S GOING TO THE NEW AUTOMATED ARM SYSTEM THAT COMMISSIONER BURKE REFERRED TO. IF SOMEONE DOESN'T GENERATE AS MUCH AS THE 95-GALLON CAN THAT THEY CAN CHANGE OUT FOR A 65-GALLON CAN AND THEY WILL BE PAYING THE SAME AMOUNT. AND AT THE TIME A YEAR AGO, OUR CITIZENS ASKED US WHY DO I NEED TO PAY AS MUCH? AND WE SAID WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY TO CHARGE SEPARATELY. BUT NOW WE HAVE THAT ABILITY TO CHARGE SEPARATELY. WE HAVE THAT ABILITY, WE MUST BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE THAT ABILITY TO KNOW WHO HAS WHAT SIZE CAN AND SO THAT WHEN THEY GO TO PICK IT UP, THEY WILL KNOW IF IT IS SUPPOSE TO BE A 65-GALLON CAN OR IF THIS IS SUPPOSE TO HAVE TWO OR THREE CANS AND SOMEHOW THEY WILL KNOW THAT AND BECAUSE THEY SIGNED THIS ORDINANCE. AND THAT OUR ABILITIES TO TRACK THE HOUSEHOLDS. AND SO IF WE CAN SCALE UP FOR OUR RESIDENTS, THEN WHY ARE WE NOT SCALING DOWN? AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I VOTED AGAINST THE RATE A YEAR AGO FOR COLLECTION AND THAT AGAIN, ONLY ONE OF THE REASONS, BUT ONE OF THOSE REASONS IS THAT I HAVE 65% OF MY DISTRICT OVER 65 AND A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE ON A FIXED INCOME. SO THAT IS A LOT FOR THEM AND I HEAR THEM ON THAT AND THAT IS WHY I WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT THE RESOLUTION TO LOOK AT THOSE SYSTEMS IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE. AND ASIDE FROM THAT, I'M NOT, I WASN'T ON BOARD WITH IT ANY WAY, BUT WE OWE IT TO THEM TO FIND THAT AND 
          THAT IS MY MOTION. >> I SECOND THAT MOTION. 
          >> I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THAT. AS FAR AS COLLECTION, DOES IT COST ANY LESS TO PICK UP THE 65-GALLON GARBAGE CAN? IS IT STILL THE SAME COST TO PICK THAT UP? AND SO DISPOSAL WOULD BE DIFFERENT, CORRECT? I'M JUST ASKING WHAT IS THE 
          DIFFERENCE IN VOLUME? >> RIGHT. 
          >> AND THE AMOUNT THEY'RE CHANGING IS THE SAME. 
          >> NO. >> THE COST TO THE GARBAGE COMING TO COLLECT THAT GARBAGE IS STILL THE SAME. AND THAT IS THE $34 INCREASE AND THAT IS WHERE IT IS AND SO IT DOESN'T COST THEM ANY LESS TO PICK UP THE 65 GALLON AND STILL THE SAME AMOUNT OF WORK FOR THAT COMPANY? 
          >> RIGHT. >> EXACTLY. AND SO WHEN THAT TRACK ROLLS DOWN THE STREET, IT'S COSTING THEM THE SAME AMOUNT TO HIT BOTH LOCATIONS ON THAT STREET. AND THE TRUCK COSTS IN TERMS OF WHAT IT WILL COST TO THE PERSON COST AND TO ACTUALLY OPERATE THE VEHICLE, THAT'S THE SAME REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. QUITE HONESTLY I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT THIS CAME UP AT THE LAST MOMENT. WE'RE ABOUT A MONTH AND A WEEK OR MAYBE SO FROM ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTING THE ACTUAL COLLECTION UNDER THE NEW CONTRACT AND FIVE WEEKS IN ADVANCE OF THAT WE WILL BE MAKING THE WHOLESALE CHANGES? I THINK THERE MAY BE SOME MERIT, BUT YOU KNOW WHERE WERE WE IN FEBRUARY OR EVEN RIGHT UP UNTIL THREE, FOUR MONTHS AGO THAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED AND THE FCC THAT WE COULD HAVE LOOKED INTO THAT AND NOW I THINK IT'S TOO LATE TO DO THAT. QUITE HONESTLY AGAIN, COMMISSIONER BURKE BROUGHT UP THE GOOD POINT. BUT THE COST TO COLLECT THE GARBAGE WHETHER IT IS THE HALF CAN OR NO CAN, IT IS THE SAME. IT IS NOT MUCH DIFFERENT. WE PAY TAXES BASED ON THE SCHOOL TAX WHETHER WE HAVE A CHILD IN THAT SCHOOL OR NOT AND EVERYBODY PAYS IT. AND SO YOU KNOW, THE BOTTOM LINE IS AT THIS POINT, I THINK IT IS TOO LATE. WE MAY HAVE SOME ERRORS OR NOT. I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO THINK ABOUT IT UNTIL THIS SECOND. BUT AT THE SAME TIME THE COST FOR ROLLING A TRUCK OR TRUCKS FOR PICKING UP THE GARBAGE TO BRING IT BACK TO THE LANDFILL, IT'S THE SAME REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH IT WILL PICK UP OR THEY DON'T PICK UP. 
          AND SO I'M NOT SURE THAT MAKING THAT CHANGE IS GOING TO 
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BE A BIG DIFFERENCE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE FIXED INCOMES. AND I CERTAINLY DEAL WITH THAT AND I HAVE SOME SYMPATHY WITH THAT. 
          BUT IN THIS LATE DATE, YOU'RE GOING TO CAUSE SOME ADDITIONAL PROBLEMS FOR US IN TERMS OF MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE THAT NEEDS TO BE NEGOTIATED WITH THE COMPANY. AND ALSO WORKED OUT TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THAT ANYONE ELSE WILL DO IT IN THAT FASHION AND WHETHER THAT IS A POSSIBILITY THAT IT IS NOT BEING DONE THAT WAY IN OTHER AREAS OR FOR WHATEVER REASON. 
          AND I CAN'T SUPPORT THE MOTION AS IT STANDS. 
          >> MR. CHAIR IF I MAY. THAT, I APPRECIATE THAT PERSPECTIVE SO MUCH. I THINK IT IS CRITICAL AT THIS JUNCTURE TO FLIP EVERY SINGLE STONE. IT HAS BEEN MADE VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT IF THIS IS COMING BEFORE US THIS LAST MINUTE AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW WITH A MAGNIFYING GLASS IN LIGHT OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING, IT DOESN'T, IT'S VERY APPARENT TO ME THAT THERE IS A LOT THAT WILL HAPPEN THAT DOESN'T BECOME PUBLIC OR PRIVY TO US UNTIL IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO COURSE CORRECT. AT THIS POINT, ONE THING ABOUT IT, I DON'T SET THE AGENDA. AND THAT I DON'T GET TO DECIDE WHEN SOMETHING LIKE IT THIS CAME BEFORE ME AND IT CAME UP TONIGHT IN LIGHT OF THE TIMELINE. THAT I CAN APPRECIATE YOUR POSITION AND BECAUSE I GET THAT AND THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO COME BACK BEFORE US AND BEFORE THAT CONTRACT IS IMPLEMENTED. AND IF WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASSESS IT NOW, THEN I DON'T SEE THE HARM IN DOING SO AND IF THERE IS, THEN WHAT IT WILL BOIL DOWN TO THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE VETTED THAT PROCESS AND IF THERE IS A WAY TO COST SAVE THAT WE DID SO. AND INSTEAD OF BELIEVING WITHOUT ANYTHING THAT THERE WASN'T A PATH FORWARD. 
          AND SO I GET THE TIME CONSTRAINTS, BUT I THINK THAT IN LIGHT OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN REAL TIME THAT I WOULD BE REMISS TO NOT ASK THOSE QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW AS IT IS BEING PRESENTED TO ME. AND SO THAT IS WHY I SUPPORTED THE POSITION. FAR BE IT FOR ME TO SAY WHATEVER, THAT'S MY POSITION ON WHY I WOULD SECOND THIS MOTION. 
          >> AGAIN, MY QUESTION IS WHOEVER COULD ANSWER THAT, WHAT IS THAT COST DIFFERENCE FOR DISPOSAL AND COLLECTION AS OPPOSED TO THAT GARBAGE CAN? AND I'M NOT ASKING YOU, THANK YOU. AND THAT THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE IN COST FOR WHAT 
          WE'RE PAYING FOR DISPOSAL. >> I'M THE OPERATIONS MANAGER FOR CLAY COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES. AND THE WAY THAT THE CONTRACTS OR THE WAY IT WAS BID, THAT THEY WOULD BID TO PICK UP ONE 95-GALLON CAN AT EVERY HOUSEHOLD AND EVERY DWELLING IN CLAY COUNTY. SO IT IS AN OPTION FOR PEOPLE THAT CANNOT HANDLE. AND THAT BID IS FOR THE 95 GALLON CAN. 
          AND SO THIS TRUCK WILL GO THERE ALL WEEK AND THAT IS WHAT THEY 
          ARE CHARGING FOR. >> WHAT THEY ARE SAYING THOUGH, IF YOU HAVE IT SINCE WE BID OUT FOR -- IF WE PICK UP THE 65 GALLON, DOES IT COST LESS TO PICK THAT UP? AND SO THERE IS NOTHING TO NEGOTIATE. AND IT DOESN'T MATTER. AND THEY WILL BID ON PICKING UP THE 95 GALLON CAN FOR EVERY HOUSEHOLD. AND 
          THAT IS WHAT THE PRICE IS. >> WAIT, YOU'RE ANSWERING A DIFFERENT QUESTION, I THINK. YOUR QUESTION WILL TURN ON 
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WHETHER IT WILL COST THEM LESS IF THEY GO TO PICK UP 65 OVER 90. THIS IS JUST THE ASSESSMENT. THE COST ISN'T IN THE VOLUME THAT'S BEING PICKED UP. FOR ME AS I'M WORKING THROUGH THIS AND THAT COST IS ACTUALLY IN HOW MUCH VOLUME IS BEING PICKED UP BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT BEFORE, WHEN I HAD A CONVERSATION LAST WEEK WITH THE CEO, HE WAS TELLING ME THAT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED WAS ABOUT VOLUME. I CAN LEAVE IT AT THAT AT VOLUME. HE SAID DEPENDING ON WHETHER WE WOULD INCREASE THE VOLUME, THAT HE MAY HAVE TO CONSIDER ROUTES. AND I COULD GO UP FURTHER WHEN I'M ALONG MY ROUTES. AND SO WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT IS DOES 65 AND 95 REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE? AND IT BOILS DOWN TO THE NUMBER OF TRIPS. AND SO THERE IS A DELTA THERE AND THAT I'M NOT LOOKING TO CHANGE THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT AND I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. I KNOW WHAT WE HAVE AGREED TO. 
          BUT YOUR QUESTION IS DIFFERENT. IF THEY'RE COMING TO MY HOUSE AND THEY ARE PICKING UP 65 WHEN THEY CONTRACTED TO PICK UP 95 AND THEY'RE NOT PICKING THAT MUCH, THEY COULD GO FURTHER. IF IT'S A NUMBER OF US THAT DECIDED TO COLLECT LESS, THEN THERE IS A CHANGE AND THEY ARE NOT SPENDING AS MUCH. 
          >> AND I DISAGREE. WHAT MY QUESTION WAS, DOES IT COST ANYMORE FOR THAT TRUCK TO PICK UP THE CAN VERSES THAT CAN AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE AGREEING TO AND THAT WOW WOULD USE MORE ELECTRICITY, YOU PAY FOR ELECTRICITY AND THIS IS ONLY ONE CHARGE DUE TO THEM COMING DOWN OUR ROAD AND PICKING UP ONE GARBAGE CAN AND SO THERE IS NO PRICE IN COLLECTION AND HOW MUCH IT WILL COST FOR THEM TO PICK UP ONE CAB AND THERE IS 
          ONE PRICE. >> AND SO OKAY, FOR THE SECOND CAN, IT'S ON THE NEXT ONE THAT WE'RE COMING TO? 
          >> AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT. 
          >> BUT IT MATTERS WHERE THEY ARE NOT PAYING THAT EMPLOYEE 
          ANYMORE. >> AND THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE 
          REFERRING TO? >> NO. AND SO CLEARLY YOU KEEP INTERRUPTING ME. SO YOU CANNOT FOLLOW MY THOUGHT PROCESS. AND IF WE ARE CHARGING MORE TO PICK UP THE SECOND CAN, WHY ARE WE NOT CHARGING LESS TO PICK UP LESS VOLUME IN THE FIRST CAN? AND I'LL ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT COMMISSIONER BROUGHT UP AND THAT IT IS THE REASON THAT I BROUGHT IT UP TONIGHT IS BECAUSE THIS IS THE ANNUAL RATE RESOLUTION'S PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH WE DO EVERY YEAR AND WE WERE TOLD BY STAFF THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY TO CHARGE DIFFERENTLY, AND WE CAN ADD LINES TO THE PROPERTY TAX BILL. AND THAT IT MAY BE DIFFERENT AND THAT IF I LIVE IN THAT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, MY ASSESSMENT MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN YOURS. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING IS WHY WE CAN'T DO TIERED RATES. AND IF IT IS A NEGOTIATION THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE ANNUAL RATE RESOLUTION AND BECAUSE OF THE PUBLIC SPEAKER THAT ASKED EARLIER AND TO HAVE THAT MAXIMUM IN IT THAT THERE IS ONLY A CERTAIN AMOUNT THAT COULD GO UP EVERY YEAR. AND SO IF THAT IS IN THERE, 
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THAT'S NOT THE MAXIMUM OF THE $504 THAT IS NOT IN THAT CONTRACT AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT CONTRACT WITH ENVIRONMENTAL. THAT'S WHY I ASKED MY QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT THE SECOND CAN. AND SO IT IS ALL VERY CONFUSING AT THIS WHOLE THING. WHEN I MET WITH THE COMMISSIONER AUDITOR AND SHE SAID WE ORIGINALLY, THE SECOND CAN THEY WERE GOING TO BILL IT. NOW WE'RE PULLING THIS IN HOUSE. THERE IS JUST -- THIS IS SO MUCH CHANGE. SO LET ME JUST DO A QUICK LITTLE EXPLANATION ON THIS ASSESSMENT. AS YOU SAID, THIS IS AN ASSESSMENT THAT WILL GO ON THE TAX BILL. IT'S DONE YEARLY, RIGHT? AND IF YOU DON'T GET IT TO THE TAX COLLECTOR BY THE DEADLINE IN SEPTEMBER, IT WON'T BE ON THE TAX BILL. SO THE COUNTY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE. SO WE DO HAVE A TIME CRUNCH FOR FIGURING IT OUT. BACK IN FEBRUARY, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU SAID YOU VOTED AGAINST IT. BUT THE BOARD APPROVED THAT CONTRACT AT THE TIME IN FEBRUARY AT THE TIME THAT YOU WOULD APPROVE THAT CONTRACT. YOU KNEW BECAUSE YOU ENTERED INTO THE RESOLUTION NUMBER 29, THAT APPROVED THE RATE. BECAUSE THERE WAS NO WAY TO SATISFY OR PAY FOR THAT CONTRACT IF YOU DIDN'T APPROVE THE RATE AT THE $262. SO THAT IS BACK IN FEBRUARY, FEBRUARY 13 MEETING WHEN YOU DID THAT. 
          AND SO THE CONTRACT DOESN'T PROVIDE FOR THE TIER RATE. THAT WOULD TAKE PROBABLY ANOTHER PERSON ON OUR STAFF TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT AND IF THAT IS SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO EXPLORE OR IMPLEMENT IN THE FUTURE. BUT FOR PURPOSES OF GETTING THIS ON THE TAX ROLL FOR IT UPCOMING YEAR IN ORDER TO PAY FOR THIS SERVICE. THAT WE DO HAVE THE DEADLINE THAT IT WILL BE TO THE TAX COLLECTOR BY THAT DATE IN SEPTEMBER. AND WITH THE UNDERSTANDING IF YOU ARE ADOPTING THAT RATE. SO REALLY THIS IS JUST THE TIME FRAME THAT IT HAS ALWAYS BROUGHT BEFORE YOU AND IT WAS JUST REALLY TO REFLECT THAT YOU WOULD ALREADY APPROVE THE RESOLUTION ON FEBRUARY 13 OF MOVING IT TO THE $262 IN ORDER TO FUND THE CONTRACT. 
          >> LET ME JUST ADD SOME OTHER ELEMENT HERE. IT'S INTERESTING TO DISCUSS, BUT THEY WERE NOT A PART OF THE RFP. AND THEY WERE NOT A PART OF THE BIDS THAT THEY GOT IN OR THE EVALUATIONS. 
          AND TO FCC. UNLESS THE VOLUME AND THE WAIT AND EVERY TIME THEY PICK UP. THAT IT WILL BE WAIT AND VOLUME, WHICH ARE JERMAINE TO THE DISCUSSION AND EVERY INDIVIDUAL, 77,000 
          HOUSEHOLDS. >> YES, SIR. AND IT WILL BE EVERY WEEK AND I DON'T KNOW ANY COMPANIES THAT WILL DO THAT EVERY WEEK, REEVALUATE AND CHARGE IT FOR WHAT THEY ARE PICKING UP. AND THAT DISPOSAL COST, I'M CONTRIBUTING TO AND 
          EITHER A LOT OR BY WEIGHT. >> AND THAT WILL BE WHAT THEY 
          SAY, THE 95 CAN WOULD BE. >> FOR THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD. 
          IT'S SOMETHING THEY NEED TO GO TO EACH HOUSEHOLD. AND THAT THEY WILL GO TO EVERY HOUSEHOLD AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE PAYING 
          THEM FOR. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DENY. AND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? ALL THOSE 
          IN FAVOR SAY AYE? >> AYE. 
          >> ANY NAYS LIKE SIGNS? >> NAY. 
          >> IT FAILS. DO WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT? 
          >> YES. >> I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO 
          ACCEPT THE -- THE RESOLUTION. >> I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. AND SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COLLECTION RATE OF 2025. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? 
          >> YEAH. I HAVE ANOTHER. I WISH WE COULD LIKE REWIND BACK TO 
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WHENEVER COMMISSIONER CONDON MADE THE MOTION. MY QUESTION IN MY MIND THAT I FELT BECAUSE THAT'S WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION. DOES IT COST THE SAME TO PICK UP THE 65 GALLON VERSES THE 95 GALLON, AND THAT'S WHY THE INCREASE OF $34 THAT WE HAVE NO CHOICE IN THE MATTER THAT IT IS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, $34 FOR THE YEAR. THAT'S WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE $262, CORRECT, COURTNEY? THE $34 INCREASE? 
          >> RIGHT. >> THAT'S WHAT'S INCLUDED IN 
          THAT? >> $262. 
          >> SO ALL THE OTHER QUESTIONS, I KNOW THAT WAS EVEN A PART OF WHAT YOU WERE DISCUSSING UNTIL, YOU KNOW, JUST NOW. BUT NO MATTER WHAT, THE $34 INCREASE, THEY HAVE TO BE THERE BECAUSE IT'S A PART OF THE CONTRACT AND THEY NEED TO HAVE THEIR GARBAGE COLLECTED. SO ANY WAY THAT IS WHY MY, I AGREE WITH 
          THE MOTION. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE RATE FOR 24/25. ALL 
          THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE. 
          >> ANY NAYS? >> PASSES 3-2. 
          [34.  Public Hearing to consider adoption of Final Assessment Resolution for the addition of subdivision properties to the Subdivision Roads Maintenance Municipal Service Benefit Unit and to impose non-ad valorem special assessments for the provision of subdivision roads maintenance services therein (C. Grimm/R. Smith)]
          >> ITEM NUMBER 34 IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ADOPTION FINAL ASSESSMENT RESOLUTION FOR SUBDIVISION PROPERTIES. ROAD 
          MAINTENANCE. >> YES, SO THIS IS FOR THE ADDITION OF NEW SUBDIVISIONS TO THE SUBDIVISION MSBU. THERE ARE FOUR SUBDIVISIONS. THEY WERE BROUGHT TO YOU WITH THE INITIAL RESOLUTION BACK IN JUNE. AND THAT TIME YOU APPROVED THE RATES AND NOW WE'RE BRINGING IT FORWARD AFTER NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE FOUR SUBDIVISIONS FOR YOUR APPROVAL. 
          AND SO IT DOES REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY? I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ADOPT FINAL ASSESSMENT FOR SUBDIVISION PROPERTIES FOR ROAD MANAGEMENT. I HAVE NO CARDS. 
          SEEING NO ONE STANDING, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. 
          >> I'LL MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND. 
          >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE, AND I THINK THERE ARE QUITE A FEW IN THERE? LIKE 19 OF THEM OR SOMETHING LIKE 
          THAT? >> NOPE, THIS ONE IS FOUR 
          SUBDIVISIONS. >> FOUR, OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 
          >> AYE. >> ANY LAYS LIKE SIGNS? IT 
          [27.  Personnel Policy Manual (J. Leighton)]
PASSES 5-0. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO -- 
          >> MR. CHAIRMAN? >> YES? 
          >> MAY I HAVE A REQUEST. CAN WE BRING UP NUMBER 27 AND 28 TO HEAR FOLLOWING? WE FINISHED OFF ON 23, WE HAVE A GUEST THAT'S 
          HERE FOR THE BENEFITS. >> 27 AND 28 TOGETHER, YES, 
          SIR. >> COME ON UP. 
          >> GOOD EVENING, JESSICA LEIGHTON, DIRECTOR OF PERSONNEL. AS BRIEFED, THE CURRENT PERSONNEL POLICY MANUAL WAS LAST ADOPTED BY THE BOCC IN 2005. REVISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE AND OCCURRED IN 2006, 2007, AND 2018. THIS LAST REVIEW THAT WE'VE DONE THE PAST YEAR HAS BEEN DONE BY THE PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT, OUR INSIDE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, AND THE OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNCIL. AFTER THE IMPLEMENTATION, IF APPROVED BY THE BOARD, WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO DO AN ONGOING DYNAMIC PROCESS REVIEW OF THE POLICY MANUAL AND SO THAT WAY WE ARE NOT WAITING EVERY SIX YEARS TO DO A REVIEW. IT WOULD BE AN ONGOING PROCESS. AND AS BRIEFED, THESE ARE A FEW OF THE CHANGES, UPDATES, AND E REMOVALS OF CERTAIN POLICIES. 
          CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING ] 
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          >> AYE . >> NEXT SLIDE. THE BENEFITS 
          [28.  Benefits 2025 Presentation (J. Leighton)]
PROPOSAL WAS PUT TOGETHER AND RECOMMENDED BY THE BENEFITS COMMITTEE, THIS WAS MADE UP OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE, PROPERTY APPRAISER, TAX COLLECTOR, SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS AND BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. 
          SOME OF THE MEDICAL PLAN CHANGES THAT WE HAVE BRIEFED ON WAS PHARMACY CARVEOUT AND WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES HEAR FROM THE BAILEY GROUP, THAT YOU HAD MET EARLIER TO DISCUSS ANY CHANGES WITH REGARDS TO THAT. RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO GO FROM A TWO-TIERED PLAN TO A FOUR TIERED PLAN, THIS WOULD BE BREAKING OUT FROM EMPLOYEE ONLY AND EMPLOYEE FAMILY PLAN TO AN EMPLOYEE ONLY, EMPLOYEE SPOUSE, EMPLOYEE CHILDREN AND EMPLOYEE FAMILY OPTIONS. AND THERE WAS ALSO CHANGES IN THE DEDUCTIBLE 
          FOR THE PPO AND THE HPHE PLANS. >> THE PHRASING FOR PHARMACY CARVEOUT, DOES THAT MEAN IT IS GOING TO BE BUILT SEPARATELY OR DOES THAT MEAN THE COUNTY WILL PAY FOR THAT SERVICE SEPARATELY FROM FLORIDA BLUE? SO, ON OUR RATE SHEET, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, IS IN A HIGHER OR OPEN ENROLLMENT, IS THERE GOING TO BE A SEPARATE LINE THAT I'M GOING TO BUILD FOR PHARMACY 
          PREMIUM? >> YOU DON'T GET A BILL FOR 
          PHARMACY, NO. >> I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT 
          DISTINCTION TO MAKE. >> YOU ARE PAYING FOR THE MEDICAL PLAN AND THE PHARMACY IS A PART OF THE MEDICAL PLAN. 
          >> OKAY, I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE WE HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT SAYS PHARMACY CARVEOUT SO FOR THE PUBLIC AND THE EMPLOYEES THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SEE A CARVEOUT OF THAT, IT'S JUST HOW IT IS GOING TO BE BILLED AS FOR AS THE SERVICE. 
          >> WE WILL HAVE FLORIDA BLUE AND THE PHARMACY, REALLY THE DIFFERENCE FOR THE EMPLOYEE WOULD BE, IN SETTING -- INSTEAD 
          OF HAVING A PHARMACY CARD. >> THE PREMIUM WILL COVER BOTH. 
          >> SORRY, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. >> THIS NEXT SLIDE OUTLINES WHAT THESE TIERED PLAN CHANGES WILL LOOK LIKE, CURRENTLY YOU CAN SEE THE COUNTIES COST SHARE AND THE EMPLOYEES SHARE AND IN GREEN YOU CAN SEE THE COUNTIES COST SHARE AS WELL AS THE EMPLOYEES COST SHARE. THE DENTAL RENEWAL AS BRIEFED DID HAVE A SLIGHT INCREASE, YOU CAN SEE THE CURRENT RATES IN THE LIGHT BLUE IS THE RENEWAL RATES. WITH BASIC LIFE, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE BENEFITS COMMITTEE WAS TO INCREASE THE EMPLOYER-PROVIDED COVERAGE FROM 20,000 TO 50,000, WE GOT QUOTED AT SIX DOLLARS AND THE DIFFERENCE FOR THE 
          EMPLOYEE PREMIUM PER MONTH. >> WITH 20 TO 50, 50 WOULD BE 
          THE MINIMUM, CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE BENEFITS COMMITTEE IS ALSO INCLUDING TELE-DOCK WHICH IS THE VIRTUAL HEALTH SCREEN OPTION, INTO OUR MEDICAL PLAN. THIS COVERS MEDICAL DERMATOLOGY AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. THE HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNT, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE BENEFITS COMMITTEE WAS TO INCREASE THE COUNTY CONTRIBUTION , THIS WILL 
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MAINTAIN OUR CONTRIBUTION RATE AT 50% OF THAT OF THE DEDUCTIBLE WHICH WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING, SO YOU CAN SEE THE INCREASE OPTIONS AT THE TOP. THE SECOND PORTION OF THE PAGE SAYS THE BENEFITS COMMITTEE WILL BE LOOKING FOR SOME GUIDANCE FROM THE BOARD ON HOW TO FUND THE HSA, CURRENTLY YOU CAN -- CURRENTLY WE ARE FRONTLOADING WHICH MEANS THAT WE ARE PUTTING IN ALL OF THE AGENCY FUNDS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR FOR ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES THAT ARE OPTING INTO THE PLAN, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE BENEFITS COMMITTEE WOULD BE OPTION ONE MOVING FROM THE BEGINNING OF YOUR FUNDING TO A SEMI ANNUAL FUNDING, SO PARTIAL FUNDING IN JANUARY, PARTIAL IN JULY, OR PHASING IN THE SEMIANNUAL STARTING IN 2026. THIS NEXT SLIDE OUTLINES AT A HIGH LEVEL OF WHAT THE POTENTIAL EMPLOYEE COST IMPACTS WOULD BE WITH ALL OF THE CHANGES THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR THE ENTIRE BENEFIT PACKAGE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. THE RETIREE IMPACTS. THE OPT OUT ALLOWANCE CURRENTLY, THE OPT OUT ALLOWANCE RATE FOR OUR RETIREES IS SET AT $150 PER MONTH, IN ORDER TO ENSURE THE COUNTY STAYS IN COMPLIANCE WITH IRS CODE 125.9, THE OPT OUT ALLIANCE WOULD BE TIERED EQUALLY TO THAT AS OUR ACTIVE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES. AND BELOW YOU CAN SEE IN BLUE AGAIN, THE RETIREE COST IN OUR CURRENT PLAN AND IN THE GREEN IS THE RETIREE COST FOR 2025. AGAIN, WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE ON THE HSA CONTRIBUTION FUNDING, AND THEN LOOKING FOR A CONSENSUS, TO IMPLEMENT THE BENEFITS AS 
          PRESENTED. >> WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT MOTIONS. JUST GENERAL CONSENSUS. 
          >> I THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE THE HSA FUNDING ALONE , I HAVE ASKED SEVERAL TIMES HOW MANY PEOPLE THIS AFFECTS, I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE LEAVE AND YOU'VE TOLD ME IT IS IN THE 20S OR WHATEVER, I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE SEEN AS A HUGE TAKE AWAY FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE EMPLOYEES COVERED BY THIS PLAN, AND FOR THE SMALL AMOUNT THAT TAKE MONEY WITH IT AND I GET IT, THAT IS REAL MONEY THAT THE COUNTY IS PAYING BUT IT IS UNDER $50,000 RIGHT NOW. SO, MAYBE IN THE FUTURE I THINK MAYBE IF WE GIVE EMPLOYEES AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLAN FOR IT, BUT A LOT OF THEM DO PLAN FOR PROCEDURES RIGHT THERE IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY OR THE FIRST PART OF THE YEAR, TO GO AHEAD AND USE THAT HSA OR A PART OF IT, FROM TALKING TO EMPLOYEES I THINK THAT THEY WOULD SEE THAT AS A HUGE TAKE AWAY. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF DOING IT NOW. 
          >> I AGREE. >> SO, IS THAT 2026, THE PHASED 
          IMPLEMENTATION? >> WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE 
          CAN -- >> WELL, WE WANT TO GIVE THEM 
          NOTICE, IF THAT IS THE PLAN. >> DO WE HAVE TO DECIDE THAT 
          TONIGHT? >> I THINK AS LONG AS I HAVE GUIDANCE AND THAT WE ARE GOOD WITH CONTINUING THE CURRENT SITUATION, BY FULLY FUNDING THE HSA ACCOUNTS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND THEN LATER ON, THE BENEFITS COMMITTEE CAN COME BACK AND LOOK FOR MORE GUIDANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMMUNICATING TO EMPLOYEES ON TIME. 
          >> THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE HEARD OF THE LEAKAGE OF 
          $50,000, IS THAT APPROXIMATE? >> CURRENTLY, RIGHT AT THIS VERY MOMENT, I THINK ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO WE WERE OUT ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 22,000, SO FAR FOR THIS CALENDAR, SO ABOUT ANOTHER FEW MONTHS TIME, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE HERE AND THERE. 
          >> I AGREE, IT WOULD PUT A GREAT NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN STRESS MODE IF WE DO IT RIGHT NOW. FOR 25, THAT IS ONLY THREE 
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          MONTHS AWAY BASICALLY. ANYWAY. >> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, I'M JUST CURIOUS, I THINK WE ASKED THAT QUESTION AT SOME POINT WHEN YOU BRIEFED US, BUT WHAT'S THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT DO ACTIVATE AND USE THEIR HSA? I MEAN ARE WE TALKING MAJORITY, LESS THAN 50%? JUST CURIOUS. 
          >> WELL, IT IS REFLECTED IN THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLAN, THAT IS HOW THEY ARE PAYING THAT PART. IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ON IT, MAYBE IT IS NOT ONE TO ONE, 
          BUT THEY HAVE THE PLAN. >> WELL, YOU CAN USE YOUR HSA FUNDS FOR A LOT OF OTHER THINGS OUTSIDE OF JUST MEDICAL VISITS. 
          SO THAT I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ADDRESS HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE USING AND HOW MUCH MONEY OF THE HSA FUNDS WE ARE GETTING THAT 
          THEY ARE ABLE TO USE. >> WE DON'T HAVE VISIBILITY. 
          ONCE IT LEAVES, IT IS OUT OF OUR CONTROL. 
          >> BUT HOW MANY ARE ON IT? HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ON THE HSA? 
          >> THEY HAD THE HSA BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLAN? SO, IT IS 300 PEOPLE, NO, IT IS ABOUT 600. 
          600 PEOPLE AND THE WHOLE 3000 EMPLOYEES THAT THIS COVERS FOR ACTIVE EMPLOYEES, YES. SO, THERE'S TWENTYSOMETHING HUNDRED EMPLOYEES THAT ARE ON THE PPO? 
          >> I HAVE A LITTLE OVER 700 IN THE PPO PLAN WHICH THIS AGENCY WOULD NOT AFFECT, AND THEN I HAVE PROBABLY A LITTLE OVER 600 EMPLOYEES IN HSA PLAN THAT WOULD AFFECT. 
          >> I THINK WE ARE MIXING EMPLOYEES VERSUS COVERED MEMBERS, SO 3000 COVERED MEMBERS, WHICH MEANS I HAVE FOUR ON MY PLAN, SO THAT IS YOU ARE 3000 NUMBER, YOU HAVE ABOUT 1700 ELIGIBLE EMPLOYEES, BETWEEN EMPLOYEES AND RETIREES, OF THOSE THE NUMBERS WE JUST PROVIDED ARE THE PPO. 
          >> WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS AGAIN ON THE PPO AND THE HIGH 
          DEDUCTIBLE? >> IT WOULD BE A LITTLE OVER 700 IN THE PPO AND A LITTLE OVER 600 AND HSA. 
          >> DON'T ALL EMPLOYEES GET HSA? 
          >> NO, THEY CAN OPT IN TO THE PLAN. 
          >> BUT HSA IS HIGH DEDUCTIBLE. >> THAT IS CORRECT. 
          >> I THINK THAT IS ACTUALLY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLAN ORDER TO LEGALLY HAVE HSA, NOT THE FSA, WHICH IS THE FLEXIBLE SPENDING ACCOUNT. AND THEN THE GAP EMPLOYEES, I'M SORRY, THE GAP EMPLOYEES ARE THE ONE WHO OPT OUT OF THE COUNTY'S INSURANCE ALTOGETHER BECAUSE THEY HAVE 
          INSURANCE SOMEWHERE ELSE. >> CORRECT. 
          >> I WILL MAKE A COMMENT, WHICH LOOKS AT THE COST IMPACT PAGE AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WORK THAT Y'ALL DID, THE BENEFITS COMMITTEE WITH OUR CONTRACTOR TO COME UP WITH A FEW INCREASES AND THEY ARE LOW TO BEGIN WITH, $7.68, THAT IS NOTEWORTHY IN MY MIND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HEALTHCARE COSTS. 
          >> AND MY BIG ONE, WAS THAT RETIREE AND SPOUSE, I MEAN, THAT WAS HUGE, YES. THAT WAS REALLY NOTICEABLE. 
          >> SO WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT FOR THIS BENEFIT PLAN, WITH A HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNT, LEAVE IT AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS? 
          >> YES. >> BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, TRAVIS, AND GROUP. OKAY, WE ARE BACK TO 24, COUNTY 
          [24.  County Initiative's Update (G. Gunn)]
INITIATIVES UPDATE. GABBY, WHEREVER YOU ARE. THERE SHE IS. 
          [03:15:07]
          >> GABRIELLE GUNN, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES, YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THE PACKET THAT IS ON THE SCREEN, FINAL REPORTS INTO THE DOCUMENT PRESENTED TODAY, THIS NINE PAGE DOCUMENT INCLUDES ALL OF OUR DOCUMENTS AND EACH REPORT, STAFF HAVE GONE THROUGH AND WHERE APPLICABLE IDENTIFIED A STATUS PRIORITY, PROVIDING UPDATES AND ASSIGNING TO THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENTS. THIS THURSDAY, THEY WILL CONCENTRATE ON ALL FOUR OF THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE PANELS THAT HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED FOR THE COUNTY, ULI WILL DISCUSS THE BEST WAYS TO MANAGE EFFORTS BASED ON THE GIVEN RECOMMENDATION. ULI LEAVES THIS EXERCISE WILL ASSIST THE COUNTY WITH EFFECTIVE IMPLEMENTATION AND HELP COORDINATE ALL FOUR AS ONE CONSISTENT EFFORT. STARTING WITH THE BLANDING CORE DOOR, WE HAVE NOT HAD MUCH MOVEMENT ON THIS PROJECT, IT ALSO DOES NOT HAVE A COMMITTEE OR COMMITTEE COLLABORATIVE COMPARED TO THE OTHER THREE PROJECTS. FOR THE COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE, COUNTY STAFF ATTEND MONTHLY MEETINGS FOR THIS INITIATIVE AND ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE COLLEGE DRIVE WITH EMILY HORN, THIS INCLUDES STAKEHOLDERS, NONPROFIT PARTNERS, BUSINESS AND PUBLIC COMMENT MEETINGS TO GET COLLECTIVE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. AT THE COMPLETION OF THIS, WE WILL HAVE FURTHER DIRECTION ON MOVING FORWARD WITH BOARD APPROVAL FOR PROJECTS ON THE LIST. YOU WILL SEE ON THIS INITIATIVE, A COUPLE OF IN PROGRESS WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE CREATING OF PLACE MAKING WHICH INCLUDES THE CHARRETTE. 
          PARKS AND REC IS IN PROGRESS WITH LOOKING AT ACTIVE PASSIVE RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH THE PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN. AND ALSO INCLUDED ON THE COMMUNITY SERVICES, IN PROGRESS ITEM DEVELOP BRANDING AND SIGNAGE, THIS IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR THE CHARRETTE. ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I MOVED TO THE NEXT PROJECT? COUNTY STAFF IS LEADING AND ATTENDING MONTHLY LEADERSHIP MEETINGS FOR THIS PROJECT, THE MOST RECENT ITEM IS THE IN PROGRESS ITEM OF DEVELOPING A STAKEHOLDER MANAGEMENT PLAN, THE COMMITTEE HAS CREATED AND IS WORKING THROUGH TO ASSIST MULTIPLE ITEMS ON THE LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS PROVIDED THROUGH THE TAPS. THE COMMITTEE IS ALSO PLANNING A COMMUNITY WALK FOR THE FIRST YEAR, SIMILARLY TO WHAT HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY DONE IN PAST YEARS TO ASSIST IN EXPOSURE OF THE PROJECT AND GAINING COMMUNITY COLLABORATION. THROUGH THIS ITEM WE ARE INCREASING STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT AND AGENCY COORDINATION. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PROJECT? OUR FINAL PROJECT IS HIGH RIDGE INITIATIVE, COUNTY STAFF ARE BUILDING A STRONG COLLABORATIVE COMMUNITY BOND, ALSO WORKING ON AN APPLICATION WITH THE EPA TO ADDRESS RECOGNITIONS FROM THE FIRST STEP SECTION IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE INITIATIVE THROUGH THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE PROCESS. STAFF HAVE ALSO MET WITH CCOA TO WORK ON ESTIMATES FOR WATER AND SEWER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE ARE WORKING ON THE ALLOCATION OF FUNDS FOR CLEANUPS AND PAVING A ONE MILE ROAD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU WILL SEE THIS REFLECTED ON THE DESCRIPTION OF DETERMINED CCOA ESTIMATE FOR WATER AND SEWER . AND ALSO, UNDER THE CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS PAGE IN PROGRESS, ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT TO SCHEDULE REGULAR CLEANUPS. AND ALSO TO CONTINUE TO BUILD A STRONG COLLABORATIVE COMMUNITY BOND, WORK WITH THE HIGH RIDGE INITIATIVE TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF SOCIAL SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY. ANY 
          QUESTIONS ON THIS PROJECT? >> I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS BUT I HAVE COMMENTS IF IT IS APPROPRIATE, SO AS KERRY MENTIONED IN HER PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HAVE CONTINUED TO 
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HAVE HIGH RIDGE INITIATIVE TEAM MEETINGS, WITHOUT FAIL, THOSE MEETINGS START WITH AND AND WITH THE ROADS. AND WE STARTED THESE ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO AND REALLY I SPENT SOME SLEEPLESS NIGHTS WONDERING HOW WE COULD MAKE ANY IMPROVEMENT WITHOUT FINDING A WAY TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE ROADS AND EVEN THE ULI FOLKS SAID IN THEIR PRESENTATION, UNLESS YOU FIND A WAY, DAVE RECOMMENDED SOME PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP FOR THE ROADS. SO THEN, OUT OF THE CLEAR BLUE, WASHINGTON CESSPOOL CAME THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR AN EPA GRANT, THAT WAS MY COMMENTARY BY THE WAY, NOT REFLECTION OF THE OPINIONS OF ANYONE ELSE. THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS EPA GRANT WHICH I'M GRATEFUL FOR BECAUSE THERE ARE 20 MILES OF DIRT ROADS THAT HAVE NO INFRASTRUCTURE IN HIGH RIDGE, SO THEY HAVE NO UNDER DRAINAGE, SO THEY GET THESE LARGE GULLIES THAT WILL SWALLOW WHOLE CAR AND WE'VE HAD CARS THAT GO UNDERWATER AND HAVE TO BE FISHED OUT AND IT'S JUST A REALLY BAD SITUATION, THEY CANNOT HAVE THEIR TRASH PICKED UP, THE TRASH COMPANIES HAVE HAD MANY TRUCKS THAT NEED TO BE TOWED OUT OF THIS AREA. SO THIS GRANT THAT HAS COME UP, IF WE GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE FULL AMOUNT WE COULD IMPROVE THE ROADS IN THAT AREA. 
          >> AND WITH UNDER DRAINAGE, EARL HAS BEEN WORKING ON SOME QUOTES, AND STAFF INCLUDED IN A BIG MEETING TO TALK ABOUT IF IT WAS EVEN FEASIBLE FOR US TO GO AFTER THIS GRANT AND I REALIZED IN ASKING THE QUESTIONS, WHEN THIS CAME OUT, THAT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY ADOPTED ANY OF THE INITIATIVES FROM THE ULI TASK FORCE , THAT IS A STEP THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN ORDER FOR MEGAN, OR FOR THE COUNTY TO ACTUALLY APPLY FOR THE GRANT. 
          AND THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DIFFERENT TALK, I KNOW THE ESTIMATES FROM CCOA, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ESTIMATES ARE BECAUSE STAFF MET WITH CCOA, I WASN'T EVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY BUT I WILL SAY THIS, I AM NOT IN FAVOR IN ANY WAY OF THIS DOING ANYTHING FOR THE HIGH RIDGE INITIATIVE THAT CAUSES THEM TO HAVE ANOTHER BILL WHICH IS WHAT CCOA WOULD DO FOR THEM IF WE DON'T IMPROVE THE ROADS. BECAUSE AGAIN, EVERY CONVERSATION STARTS AND ENDS WITH ROADS. THERE'S NOBODY CURRENTLY IN HIGH RIDGE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO WATER ACCESS TO SEWER. AT TIMES THE WELLS GO DRY BECAUSE THEY ARE REALLY SHALLOW, SO IF SOMEBODY HAS TO DRILL A NEW WELL, THEY ARE FACED WITH A $20,000 BILL AND THAT IS QUITE DAUNTING. WE HAVE HAD THAT HAPPEN, THE WATER TABLE IS VERY HIGH RIGHT NOW SO THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE BUT WHEN THAT HAS HAPPENED, WE DO HAVE NEIGHBORS GOING TO A NEIGHBORS HOUSE TO GET WATER AND IT BECOMES AN ISSUE. BUT A LOT OF THAT CAN BE SOLVED WITH SHIP AND OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THOSE ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. SO MY REQUEST FROM YOU AS A COMMISSION IS COULD WE ADOPT THE INITIATIVE ON THE ROADS SO THAT STAFF COULD PURSUE THE EPA GRANT TO IMPROVE THE ROADS? AND IF THERE'S MONEY LEFT OVER IN THAT GRANT OR WE WERE TO GET MORE THAN WE NEEDED FOR THE ROADS, THEN MAYBE WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT SOMETHING ELSE, WATER OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT CAME FROM THAT OPPORTUNITY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US BE TRUE TO WHAT THE CITIZENS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE TOLD US THEY NEED AND THAT IS ROAD IMPROVEMENT. BUT WE CAN'T APPLY FOR THE GRANT IF THE COMMISSION HASN'T ADOPTED THAT INITIATIVE I GUESS, BECAUSE WE RECEIVED THE REPORT BACK BUT WE NEVER ACTED ON IT. SO, MY ONLY ASK TONIGHT IS THAT WE ACCEPT THAT ONE INITIATIVE ABOUT IMPROVING THE ROADS. 
          >> WHY WOULDN'T WE ACCEPT ALL FOUR? 
          >> THAT WAS GOING TO BE OUR QUESTION. 
          >> AS INITIATIVES. >> OH, EXCEPT ALL THE 
          RECOMMENDATIONS? >> BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER GRANTS, I HAVE TRIED, GATEWAY TO CLAY, IT IS TRANSPORTATION AS SUCH THAT WE COULD PURSUE, AND I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE COUNTY ACCEPTING IT AS AN INITIATIVE AND WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS, SOMEBODY CAN CLARIFY THAT? 
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          >> TO CONCLUDE UPDATE, STAFF IS ACTING -- ASKING PURSUING ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS PROVIDED IN THE ULI CHECKLIST BECAUSE WE AREN'T CURRENTLY GOING AFTER GRANTS FOR THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. WHEN I PREVIOUSLY HAVE COME UP, I HAVE ONLY GIVEN UPDATES, THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A FORMAL APPROVAL OF 
          THE NEXT STEPS. >> SO THIS WOULD BE A NEXT 
          STEP. >> IF I CAN ASK A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION TO THAT, IF WE WERE TO ADOPT ALL FOUR INITIATIVES, DOES THAT OBLIGATE US TO DO THOSE THINGS? BECAUSE I WILL SPEAK TO YOUR OTHER INITIATIVES, BUT ON THE HIGH RIDGE INITIATIVE, THERE IS A LOT OF DIRECTION TOWARDS THE AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT AND THERE'S AN AIRPORT AUTHORITY BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL THAT ALL HAVE THE LEGAL ENTITY THERE, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN PURSUING GRANTS OUTSIDE OF -- I'M NOT INTERESTED IN THE COUNTY PURSUING GRANTS FOR THEM IF WE PURSUE GRANTS TOGETHER AND I WOULD FEEL THE SAME WAY ON CCOA, IT HAS NOT BEEN A PARTNER TO YOU , THE COUNTY AND THEY HAVE COME TO US, EVERYONE IS WAITING ON CCOA, THAT IS NOT A CRITICISM TO JEREMY , I KNOW HE'S TRYING TO BE THAT PARTNER, I THINK THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD ON SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF BUT IN HIS STRATEGIC PLAN, HE ALREADY TALKS ABOUT EXPANDING THE KEYSTONE HEIGHTS WASTEWATER PLANT IN 2025 SO I'M ASKING, DOES IT OBLIGATE US? 
          >> I THINK WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS, THE POLICY SAYS IF THE BOARD IS NOT IN OUR CIP OR THE BOARD DOESN'T GIVE US DIRECTION, THEN WE DON'T GO LOOKING FOR ANSWERS, I THINK WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR, IF THE BOARD SAYS YES WE SUPPORT THESE INITIATIVES, GO LOOK FOR GRANTS IN THESE AREAS, WE HAVE TO GET THE GRANTS BACK TO YOU BEFORE WE EVER SUBMIT IT, THAT IS A PART OF THE POLICY ALSO BECAUSE IT IS NOT A FUNDED PROJECT. IF IT IS FUNDED, IT HAS THE RIGHT TO GO AFTER THE GRANT BECAUSE YOU ARE ALREADY FUNDING THE PROJECT. ANY OF THESE WE HAVE TO BRING BACK TO THE BOARD, IT JUST MAKES MEGAN'S JOB A LITTLE BIT EASIER OF NOT LOOKING AT 1000 GRANTS KNOWING WHAT THE BOARD'S PERSPECTIVE IS. IF YOU SAY YES, WE ARE GOOD WITH GOING AFTER THE HIGH RIDGE GRANTS, THEN WE ARE GOING TO START LOOKING FOR THE GRANTS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. AND PUT SOME EFFORT TO HIDE IT. BUT WE DON'T WANT TO PUT EFFORT BEHIND THAT GRANT IF THE BOARD SAYS WE REALLY WANT YOUR FOCUS 
          OVER HERE. >> YES, BECAUSE I WAS WONDERING IF WE SAID YES TO THIS, DOES THAT TELL YOU THAT YOU CAN ALSO GO PURSUE THAT GRANT FOR SOMETHING ON THIS LIST? AND AGAIN, MY EXAMPLE WITH WATER AND SEWER VERSUS THE ROADS, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THOSE PEOPLE A BILL BECAUSE WATER AND SEWER WOULD ADD TO THEIR MONTHLY COST AND NOT HAVE ROAD IMPROVEMENT. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          >> ANYTIME WE APPLY FOR A GRANT THAT IS NOT ALREADY A FUNDED PROJECT, WOULD COME TO YOU WHICH I THINK MEGAN IS PLANNING ON BRINGING THIS GRANT BACK TO YOU IN THE NEXT MONTH. 
          >> THE SECOND MEETING IN SEPTEMBER. 
          >> IF WE MOVE FORWARD TONIGHT AND HER PLAN IS TO GET THE GRANT READY AND ASK YOUR PERMISSION TO SUBMIT IT. 
          >> BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, COLLABORATION GRANT IS VERY CRITICAL, SO IF YOU COLLABORATE WITH CCOA AND AIRPORT AUTHORITY, AND ANOTHER COUNTY , A FUNDER WILL LOOK FAVORABLY ON THAT AND QUITE HONESTLY, THIS IS THE TIDE THAT RAISES ALL FOLKS, TOO. SO IT'S NOT ALL LINEAR, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT BRING IT DOWN, TOO. SO, TO HAVE SEWER AND WATER AND HAVE TO PAY FOR IT, THAT IS A PROBLEM, THAT IS A BENEFIT, 
          TOO. >> IT WOULD NOT BE SEEN THAT 
          WAY. >> BUT SAY WE HAVE THE CHOICE TO SUPPORT THAT GRANT OR NOT, BUT MAYBE WITH AIRPORT AUTHORITY AND JOB CREATION, IT MIGHT LEAD TO BENEFITS, SO WE MIGHT WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND, WHAT'S THE WORD YOU USED, THAT WE ARE GOING TO 
          FOCUS ON THESE AREAS? >> WELL, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT 
          I SAID. >> ADOPT THEM. 
          >> YES, ADOPT THE INITIATIVES, A LOT OF THAT IS PLANNING AND ZONING CHANGES BUT A LOT OF IT LOOKS VERY NICE, WE DON'T HAVE A COMMUNITY PUSHING THAT ONE, WE HAVEN'T DONE A LOT OF 
          GATEWAY, NOT A LOT. >> SO IF IT REMAINS FOR FUTURE 
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          PROJECTS, I'M ALL FOR IT. >> YES, I AGREE. 
          >> WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THESE INITIATIVES AND AS THEY COME ACROSS, OPPORTUNITIES SO WE CAN ADOPT THAT SPECIFIC OPPORTUNITY WHICH MEANS GOING AFTER THE GRANT OR WHATEVER, IN THIS CASE IT WOULD BE THE EPA. SO, THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO DO BOTH. BUT STAFF, I NOTICED , THE DIRECTION WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE EVERY OPPORTUNITY POSSIBLE THAT MATCHES UP WITH THESE INITIATIVES AND AT THE SAME TIME GIVE YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS LOVE TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE 
          THAN THEY NEED. >> I THOUGHT THAT'S WHERE WE WERE BUT, IF WE NEED TO FORMALLY ADOPT THESE FOUR 
          PROJECTS, THEN I'M ALL FOR IT. >> AND AFTER THE TALKS ON THURSDAY, WE SHOULD HAVE A MORE SYNTHESIZED REPORT THAT IS PUTTING THEM ALL TOGETHER AND SANITIZING THEM. 
          >> OKAY, WE ARE FOR ADOPTING THESE PROJECTS? THANK YOU. ITEM 
          [25.  Additional Garbage Cart for Residential Curbside Collection Services (C. Roken/H. Boucher)]
NUMBER 25. ADDITIONAL GARBAGE CART FOR RESIDENTIAL CURBSIDE COLLECTION. 
          >> JAMIE WILKES AGAIN, ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES. FIRST THING WE ARE HERE FOR HIS APPROVAL OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL CURBSIDE COLLECTION SERVICE FOR THE FCC. THE AGREEMENT IS AMENDED TO ALLOW THE PLACEMENT OF THE YARD TRASH IN PLASTIC BAGS, AND ALSO THE AGREEMENT AS AMENDED TO PROVIDE THE COUNTY INSTEAD OF THE CONTRACTOR TO ADMINISTER THE SPECIAL SERVICES PROGRAM FOR THE ADDITIONAL CART, FOR THE ADDITIONAL GARBAGE CART. ANY 
          QUESTIONS? >> JAMIE, IN TERMS OF THE LEAF BAG, ANY PARTICULAR SIZE OR ANYTHING? 
          >> IT IS A 40 GALLON BAG AND IT CAN'T BE ANY MORE THAN 50 
          POUNDS. >> THE OTHER QUESTION, YOU CAN PILE IT IN THREE BY THREE CUBES? 
          >> YES, YOU CAN BUY YOUR STICKS AND LIMBS, RELIEVES AND LAWN STUFF HAVE TO BE BAGGED, YOU CAN EITHER USE A GARBAGE CAN, PAPER OR PLASTIC. AND THE ONE BIG CHANGE WITH YARD TRASH, WE ARE GOING FROM FIVE YARDS TO THREE YARDS, THAT IS THE BIG 
          CHANGE. >> THAT HAS CHANGED FROM WASTE 
          MANAGEMENT. >> IS IT CORRECT, IT IS THE 
          SIZE OF A DISHWASHER? >> YES, THE SIZE OF A DISHWASHER IS ONE CUBIC YARD, SO THAT IS THE SIZE THEY WILL 
          PICK UP AT ONE TIME. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR 
          JAMIE? TAKE A MOTION. >> I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION PER SE, I WAS LOOKING AT THE BULLET POINTS, I SEE THE FIRST ONE FOR WHAT IT IS, BUT FOR THE SECOND ONE, IT IS BROKEN UP INTO TWO PARTS, ONE STATES AT ONE TIME A NONREFUNDABLE FEE. I DON'T TAKE EXCEPTION TO THAT. I THINK THE SECOND ONE, AN ANNUAL DISPOSAL FEE BASED ON A MONTHLY RATE OF $5.11 , SO JUST AS A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE, I BELIEVE THAT THE RESIDENCE SHOULD HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO FCC, AND THIS CHANGE IS A ROAD PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS, BUT IT PRIMARILY BENEFITS THEM AND CREATES A BUFFER NAMELY, THE COUNTY BETWEEN THE SERVICE PROVIDER AND THE CUSTOMER. AND THOSE DEGREES OF SEPARATION ME PAUSE, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF FCC IS VERY PUBLIC POOR PERFORMANCE IN ST. JOHN'S. SO I'M THINKING ABOUT THOSE 10,000 COMPLAINTS THAT CAME INTO THEIR COUNTY, NOT COMING INTO THE COUNTY BUT GOING DIRECTLY TO FCC, THIS CHANGE 
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CREATES ALL OF THAT DISCUSSION TO HAPPEN AT THE COUNTY LEVEL RATHER THAN ALLOWING FOR YOUR CITIZENS TO DISCUSS DIRECTLY WITH FCC AND I THINK THAT GIVES ME PAUSE. SO, I UNDERSTAND THE ONE-TIME NONREFUNDABLE FEE, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT, BUT I THINK STAFF IS LOOKING TO DO RIGHT. IT WAS A REALLY GREAT IDEA IN THEORY BUT I THINK IN PRACTICE I DON'T LIKE THE COUNTY BEING A BUFFER BETWEEN A SERVICE PROVIDER AND THE CUSTOMER. AND ESSENTIALLY THAT'S WHAT THE SECOND CHANGE CREATES. SO, I TAKE EXCEPTION TO IT. 
          >> I ALSO TAKE EXCEPTION TO IT, MR. CHAIRMAN BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO NOTIFY BASED ON THIS, I BELIEVE IT IS IN THE SECOND ONE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, YOU HAVE TO NOTIFY THE COUNTY BY JULY 31ST, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT YEAR BUT YOU LOSE THREE MONTHS OF YOUR PAY, OR TWO MONTHS BECAUSE THEY WILL COME GET YOUR EXTRA CAN AND STOP IT IMMEDIATELY. THAT IS WHAT HEATHER TOLD ME WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION, SHE SAID THEY WILL GET IT JULY 31ST AND THEY WILL TAKE IT AND OCTOBER 
          -- >> YOU WILL HAVE PAID THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, SO YOU JUST HAVE TO RETURN IT BY SEPTEMBER 
          30TH. >> WE WILL SEND THE NOTICES OUT LIKE WE DO WITH THE SHIPPING EXEMPTION AND THE VETERANS EXEMPTION, WHEN WE SEND IT OUT. WHEN WE GET THOSE BACK, ANYBODY THAT DOES NOT WANT TO RENEW IT, WE WILL SEND A LIST TO FCC AND THEY WILL PICK IT UP AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER. BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THE WHOLE YEAR. 
          >> OKAY, THAT WAS DIFFERENT THAN WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION 
          EARLIER. >> WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE TIME TO GET IT BACK AND COMPILE THE LIST ANALYST WILL GO TO FCC 
          AND THEY WILL PICK THE CAN UP. >> IN SEPTEMBER. 
          >> YES. >> BUT, THAT DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT IT BECOMES AN IN-HOUSE FUNCTION RATHER THAN THE CONSUMER OR THE CUSTOMER DEALING DIRECTLY WITH THE SERVICE PROVIDER AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH. 
          >> I AGREE. >> I THOUGHT ONE OF THE REASONS FOR CHANGE WAS THAT WE BOUGHT CANS AND WE COULD PROVIDE THEM TO THE CONSUMER AT A REDUCED COST. THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT 
          IT. >> WELL, THE ILLUSTRATION THAT MADE SENSE TO ME WAS WHEN HEATHER SAID THIS IS ESSENTIALLY PLAYING OUT AS A REPO, IF I GO A MONTH WITHOUT PAIN THE MONTHLY RATE THAN THE NEXT TIME FCC SHOWS UP AT MY HOUSE, THEY CAN COME AND TAKE BACK THE WASTE BIN OR THE CART , AND WHAT THEY DO WITH THAT FROM THERE, I GUESS IT COMES BACK TO US BECAUSE WE OWN THE CART AND THAT IS FINE, BUT THIS CHANGE SAYS FCC IS NO LONGER RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPLEMENTING THAT CHANGE. THE COUNTY TAKES THAT AS AN ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITY, WHICH IS WHY THERE ARE INTERNAL CHANGES, THEY ARE NOT EXTERNAL IN THE PRICE REMAINS THE SAME. SO WHAT I'M SAYING, THERE IS NO ISSUE, CLAY COUNTY OWNS THE CARTS, THEY ARE LEASING THE CARTS. THERE'S NO POINT OF CONFUSION FOR ME, IT'S THAT THIS CHANGE PRIMARILY BENEFITS FCC, AND WE THE COUNTY BECOMES THE BUFFER, IF THEY FAIL, THE CUSTOMER FAILS TO PAY THE MONTHLY FEE, THE OWNERSHIP IS TO THE COUNTY TO GO CHASE DOWN THOSE MONIES INSTEAD OF HAVING FCC -- 
          >> NO, IT IS AN ANNUAL FEE BASE, THE WAY WE ARE DOING IT THE FIRST YEAR, THAT IS WHY WE HAVE IT PRORATED FOR THE FIRST YEAR. SO WE ARE SAYING WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET A SECOND CAN OUT TILL NOVEMBER SO IN OCTOBER -- WE ALREADY HAVE A LIST OF 
          PEOPLE WANTING A SECOND CAN. >> DID YOU SAY WE ALREADY HAVE A RUNNING LIST OF PEOPLE WHO WANT A SECOND CAN? 
          >> YES. >> I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON 
          THAT. >> YES, BECAUSE WE KNOW IT IS COMING. SO, IF YOU WANT A CAN, YOU WILL HAVE TO COME IN AND ACTUALLY PAY FOR THE CAN WHICH I WILL GET TO THE RATE IN A MINUTE. YOU WILL PAY FOR THE CAN AND IF YOU COME IN NOVEMBER, YOU WILL PAY THE PRORATED RATE, FOR WHAT IT 
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          WOULD BE FOR THE 11 MONTHS. >> THAT IS NOT MY CONFUSION. 
          >> AT THE NEXT YEAR WHEN WE SEND OUT A NOTICE SAYING DO YOU WANT TO KEEP THIS CAN? AND YOU WILL EITHER SAY YES OR NO. IF YOU SAY NO, WE WILL COMPILE A LIST OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO KEEP THE CAN, WE GIVE IT TO FCC AND THEY GET THE CAN. 
          >> CHRIS HEISEY, THAT IS THE PIECE THAT I TAKE OBJECTION TOO, I PREFER THAT BEING A DISCUSSION BETWEEN FCC AND THE CUSTOMER, REMOVING THE COUNTY'S PART IN IT COMPLETELY, THAT IS WHAT IS BROUGHT BEFORE US. SO THE CHANGE, I THINK WE NEED TO LEAVE THAT PROVISION ALONE. 
          >> YOU JUST WANT TO LEAVE IT AS IS JUST SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, THE CURRENT AS IS, IF YOU WANT A SECOND CAN, YOU GO TO FCC, YOU REQUEST THE SECOND CAN AND IT GETS DELIVERED, THEY SEND YOU A BILL AND YOU PAY THE BILL AND THEY PICK YOUR CART UP. IF YOU MISS IT, THEN THE NEXT TIME THEY COME TO THE HOUSE, THEY ARE PICKING IT UP. THERE'S NO GRACE PERIOD, THERE'S NOTHING. THEN AS THE CUSTOMER YOU HAVE TO CALL AND SAY WHAT HAPPENED TO MY CART, AND THEY SAY YOU DIDN'T PAY ME YOUR $5.11, SO THAT IS HOW YOU WANT IT. 
          THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT WOULD BE FOR THE FULL CONTRACT. BUT IF I PAID THE $66 IN THE FIRST YEAR TO LEASE THE CART, THEY DON'T NEED TO COME AND GET IT UNTIL I DON'T -- UNTIL I PUT IT OUT FOR DISPOSAL. I COULD KEEP THAT CART, IF I'M NOT 
          USING IT. >> I THOUGHT YOU HAVE TO PAY $5.11, IF I WANT TO DISPOSE OF A SECOND CART. SO I WILL PUSH MY ONE CART AND MY SECOND CART, I BETTER HAVE PAID MY $5.11. 
          BUT IF I DON'T PUSH OUT MY SECOND CART, I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY $5.11. THAT'S WHERE IT'S JUST SO CONFUSING IN THIS. I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I'M NOT IN THE TRASH INDUSTRY BUT I THINK IT IS JUST SO VOLUMINOUS TO HAVE THAT MANY CUSTOMERS THAT IT IS ON A MONTHLY BASIS OR WEEKLY BASIS. 
          LIKE OKAY, THIS IS THANKSGIVING SO I'M GOING TO ROLL OUT MY SECOND CART AND I WILL PAY YOU $5.11 AND I DON'T NEED TO USE THE SECOND CART AGAIN UNTIL EASTER. 
          >> I CAN FOLLOW, EXCEPT YOU ARE SAYING IF I HAVEN'T PAID THE BILL THEY ARE GOING TO REPO THE CART RIGHT AWAY, IT CAN'T BE BOTH WAYS, IF THEY KNOW I HAVE PAID THE BILL THEN THEY KNOW IF THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO REPO THE CART. 
          >> I DON'T KNOW THE TECHNOLOGY. 
          >> HOW DO THEY NOT KNOW THAT I DIDN'T GO STEAL MY NEIGHBORS? 
          >> ALL CANS ARE TAGGED. >> THE TEMPORARY NEED IS ACCOMMODATED WITH A FOUR DOLLAR TAG ON A GARBAGE CAN, HOW BIG IS A GARBAGE BAG? A FOUR DOLLAR TAG. HOW BIG OF A BAG AND YOU 
          PUT OUT THERE? >> 40 GALLONS, UP TO 50 POUNDS. 
          >> SO, IF YOU HAVE A TEMPORARY NEED, THAT IS THE SOLUTION, IF YOU HAVE A PERMANENT NEED, I NEED TWO CARTS EVERY WEEK, THEN YOU BY ANOTHER AND PAY DOUBLE OR PAY $5.11 PER MONTH. 
          >> I THINK I CAN APPRECIATE THE CHANGES, WHAT I'M SAYING IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, I DON'T LIKE THE CONCEPT OF THE COUNTY INTHE BUFFER, THAT IS ALL. AND THAT IS WHAT THE SECOND PART OF THE SECOND BULLET POINT REFLECTS OUR BACKUP, I THINK THAT SHOULD REMAIN THE SAME BECAUSE THAT ALLOWS FOR THE CUSTOMER TO DIRECT, TO WORK DIRECTLY OR TO DEAL DIRECTLY WITH THE SERVICE PROVIDER. A CHANGE MAKES US THE GO-BETWEEN AND I DON'T THINK -- I DO NOT FAVOR THAT POSITION. 
          >> WITHOUT THE CHANGE, IT GOES BACK TO FCC AND THE COUNTY, AND THAT IS FRAUGHT WITH PROBLEMS, TOO. 
          >> BETWEEN THE CUSTOMER AND THE SERVICE PROVIDER. BUT, THAT 
          TAKES US COMPLETELY OUT OF IT. >> NOT REALLY. NO, IT DOESN'T. 
          >> WELL, WHEN YOU SAY NOT REALLY, THIS BOILS DOWN TO $5.11, NEEDING TO BE PAID, AND THIS CHANGE SAYS INSTEAD OF THE CUSTOMER, THE RESIDENT DEALING DIRECTLY WITH FCC, CONCERNING THEIR SECOND THEN, THE COUNTY STEPPED IN AS A MEDIATOR TO 
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BRIDGE THE GAP. SO IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES THAT ARISE, IT COMES DIRECTLY TO THE COUNTY TO ADDRESS IT. AM I MISUNDERSTANDING? THAT IS WHAT THIS CHANGE DOES. SO THE COUNTY -- BECAUSE WHEN I WAS GETTING BRIEFED ON THIS, IT WAS WELL THE PUBLIC OUTCRY OF FCC TAKING THEIR SECOND THEN, THAT BECOMES A LOT OF PROBLEMS AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET INUNDATED WITH PHONE CALLS, I GET ALL OF THAT BUT THE CONVERSATION THEN BECOMES, DEAL WITH FCC. THEY ARE THE TAXPAYER, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO PAY THE $5.11 ANYWAY, SO TO ME, TO CREATE A BUFFER BETWEEN THEM AND SERVICE PROVIDER ON PRINCIPLE DOES NOT CONTORT WITH WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE THE RIGHT COURSE OF ACTION, THAT IS WHY I'M CONTENDING WITH THE SECOND ITEM OF THE SECOND BULLET POINT, IN OUR BACKUP. SO, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME OTHER REASONS WHY THERE MIGHT BE SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT THIS BUT I DON'T LIKE CUTTING OFF THE DIRECT ACCESS BETWEEN THE RESIDENT AND FCC AND THAT IS 
          WHAT THIS DOES. >> I'M ALSO CONFUSED ON SOME THINGS, ON THE ATTACHMENT NUMBER FIVE, THE PRICE TABLE FOR SERVICES FIRST AMENDMENT. ONLINE NUMBER ONE, IT SAYS 96 GALLON CART, FREQUENCY ONE WEEK PER DWELLING, PER UNIT, PER MONTH. IT IS $10.23. NOT $5.11. PER DWELLING UNIT, PER MONTH. 
          >> THAT IS TO GET THE TRUCK THERE. 
          >> OKAY, IF IT IS $10.23, THAT'S AN EXTRA $5.11 TO THEN PICK UP ANOTHER CART. SO, IF THEY CAN BREAK THAT DOWN, THAT WAS MY QUESTION EARLIER ON THE COLLECTION, JUST SAYING, IT IS A DIFFERENT COST, THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. 
          >> WELL, THEY ARE ALREADY THERE, I SEE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, THEY ARE ALREADY THERE. THEY HAD TO DRIVE OUT THERE AND PICK UP THE FIRST CART, THAT WAS THE INITIAL ONE. AND THE $5.11 IS TO PICK UP THE SECOND CART AND THAT WAS A BID, THEY COULD HAVE BID ONE DOLLAR OR $10 BUT, THAT IS THE BID. 
          >> THEY ARE GETTING A 50% DISCOUNT FROM SOMEBODY WHO HAS JUST 195 GALLON CONTAINER, BUT IF THEY GET TWO OF THEM FOR 
          $15. >> MR. CHAIRMAN IF I MAY, JUST ONE OTHER IDEA THAT IS OUT THERE, THE $5.11 WHEN IT COMES MONTH THE, THAT IS WHERE THE ISSUE AND RUB IS. IF SOMEBODY HAS FORGOT TO PAY IT OR THEY DIDN'T GET THEIR PAYMENT IN, THE REPERCUSSIONS OF THAT ARE THE TAKING OF THE CART. SO, WHAT IF WE COME BACK AND SAY YOU ARE MAINTAINING IT, BUT INSTEAD OF CHARGING MONTHLY, WHY NOT TO BILL THEM AT A YEARLY BASIS, JUST LIKE WHAT IT WOULD BE IF WE WERE TO TAKE OVER, WE ARE BILLING THEM AT A YEARLY BASIS, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING IT FROM A MONTHLY RATE TO PAY EXTRA, WE ASKED THEM, AND BY THE WAY, MAYBE THEY WOULD WANT TO DO IT MONTHLY, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THE BEST WAY TO DO IT WOULD BE YEARLY, IF WE TOOK IT OVER, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DRIVING TO, JUST A THOUGHT. 
          >> I PERSONALLY LIKE THAT. I'M VERY WORRIED ABOUT OUR CONSTITUENTS GETTING BILLED PER MONTH AND THEN THEY FORGET OR YOU HAVE AN ELDERLY THAT DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THINGS, I MEAN THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT SCENARIOS HERE, IF THEY DON'T KEEP UP WITH THAT PER MONTH, THAT WOULD BE DIFFICULT ON THEM I THINK, ON A LOT OF THE PEOPLE, SO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE EASIEST WAY FOR THE MAJORITY OF OUR PEOPLE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD, AND THE FCC, THEY STILL HAVE TO TALK TO THEM. I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID BECAUSE I ALWAYS CALLED YOU, I MEAN, WASTE MANAGEMENT NEVER HELPED ME GET DOWN TO THE 
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SOLUTION. I ALWAYS HAD TO CALL THE COUNTY. 
          >> WE TRY TO KEEP THE PHONE CALLS COMING TO Y'ALL, WE ARE 
          USED TO IT. >> BUT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, I THINK I LIKE THAT, FCC STILL BE INVOLVED IN THAT. 
          >> BECAUSE FCC, THERE'S NO GRACE PERIOD AND THEY ARE GOING TO BILL QUARTERLY OR MONTHLY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SAY IN HOW THEY BILL. SO, IF PEOPLE DON'T PAY THE BILL THIS MONTH, THEY DON'T HAVE IT AND LIKE YOU SAID, IF THEY TRY TO GO BACK AND FORTH, WE ARE GOING TO DO IT AT CHRISTMAS, I'M JUST SAYING, WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP IT UNIFORM IS BASICALLY WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. WE ARE NOT GOING OUT AND PICKING UP THE CANS OURSELVES, FCC WILL PICK THEM UP AND DELIVER, SO WE ARE 
          JUST KEEPING TRACK . >> AGAIN, IT IS NOT LOST ON ME, GOOD INTENTIONS EVERYWHERE, THAT IS NOT MY POINT. BUT, IF WE ARE TRANSITIONING FROM FCC AND THEIR OWN PROCESS FOR COLLECTION OF THAT $5.11, AND WE ARE MOVING TO IT BEING AN ANNUAL ASSESSMENT THAT THE COUNTY IS ADDING TO WHATEVER ROLE, I WOULD ARGUE THAT IT IS MORE ONEROUS THAN ALLOWING FOR THAT PERSON TO DECIDE OR TO GO THROUGH FCC WITH A MONTHLY BASIS OR A QUARTERLY BASIS OR BIANNUAL, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY GOING TO SEE INCREASES AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME, IF THE COUNTY TAKES THIS ON AND IT'S AN ADDITIONAL ASSESSMENT FOR THE SECOND CART, THEN THAT IS YET ANOTHER LINE ITEM THAT HAS TO BE PAID WHEN THAT NOTICE IS DUE. AND I ARGUED THAT IT IS MORE DIFFICULT TO GET A LUMP SUM THAN TO DEAL WITH A MONTHLY RATE OR A QUARTERLY RATE OR A BIANNUAL RATE. I THINK IT IS ALSO DIFFICULT FOR ME TO AGREE THAT FOLKS WHO ARE REGULARLY ACCUSTOMED TO PAYING MONTHLY BILLS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HANDLE THIS. AGAIN, I'M HEARING THE GOOD INTENTIONS HERE, I HEAR THEM AND I DON'T DISAGREE THAT THEY ARE GOOD INTENTIONS. BUT, ON PRINCIPLE, WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE HAVE EXPANDED THE GOVERNMENT'S FUNCTION HERE AND I DON'T BELIEVE IN EXPANDING GOVERNMENT'S FUNCTION ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO A SERVICE THAT IS BEING RENDERED TO A CUSTOMER. SO, YOUR ARGUMENTS, I HEAR THEM, THEY ARE NOT BAD, I THINK THEY ARE JUST GOOD INTENTIONS AND I'M JUST NOT SOMEBODY WHO IS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPAND GOVERNMENT'S FUNCTION 
          AND IS IN ESSENCE DOES THAT. >> I SEE ANOTHER REASON THAT YOUR POINT IS VALID, AND THAT IS I HAPPEN TO SERVE THE DISTRICT THAT HAS THE MOST PROPERTIES THAT HAVE A LOT OF HOBBY FARMS, GARDENING, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S WHY I'VE HAD A LOT OF THE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF TRASH. WE HAVEN'T HAD A LIMIT ON THE TRASH COLLECTED, WE ARE ELIMINATING RECYCLING AND NOW WE ARE LIMITING THE TRASH THAT THEY ARE COLLECTING. SO, THERE'S PROBABLY, I'M GOING TO GUESS, THERE WILL BE A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT NEEDING THE SECOND CAN AND THERE IS AN -- JUST ECONOMICALLY, I SERVE ONE OF THE LOWEST INCOME DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE, SO I THINK YOU HAVE A VALID ARGUMENT THAT EITHER YOU ARE NOT MAKING IT IN THIS MANNER, IN THAT YOU ARE ALREADY RAISING THEIR PROPERTY TAX BILL, TOTAL BILL BY $34, YOU GO AND ADD ANOTHER 60 SOMETHING DOLLARS FOR THEM TO EVEN GO PICK UP THE CART SO OUT OF MY POCKET I HAVE TO PAY $66, AND THEN ON MY PROPERTY TAX BILL, I HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER 60 SOME DOLLARS TO PAY THE $5.11 PER MONTH AND IF I DON'T PAY THE $5.11 PER MONTH AND I FORGOT TO SEND MY FORM SO IT IS BUILD ON MY PROPERTY TAX BILL, I COULD END UP LOSING MY HOME TO A TAX CERTIFICATE SALE BECAUSE I CAN'T COME UP WITH AN EXTRA $60. I THINK IT CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY THAT DOESN'T APPLY TO EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY AND I JUST THINK, MY 
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DISTRICT FEELS TARGETED BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN USED TO PUTTING OUT THE TRASH, BUT THAT IS WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE LOWER RATE FOR THE 65 GALLON, THAT IS REALLY MORE EQUAL PLAYING FIELD, SO FOR ME THE WHOLE THING, IT FEELS LIKE WE ARE ASKING PEOPLE TO COME UP WITH A LOT OF MONEY ON THE PROPERTY TAX BILL , WHEN FCC IS BILLING IT AND THAT IS A COMPLETELY SEPARATE THING AND THAT REALLY IS THE CHOICE AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LOSE THEIR HOME IF THEY CAN'T PAY THAT. SOMEBODY IS GOING TO COME IN REPO THE GARBAGE CAN, AND BY THE WAY WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT REPEALING THE MOBILE HOME OR THE CAR . IT JUST HAPPENS. SO I THINK THAT IS WHERE I WOULD BE ON BOARD WITH NOT PUTTING ON THE PROPERTY TAX BILL FOR THAT REASON, I THINK IT IS AN UNDUE RISK. 
          >> AND I DID SPEAK TO THE TAX COLLECTOR ABOUT THIS IN PARTICULAR WHEN IT CAME UP BEFORE, I ASKED DIANE DIRECTLY, WAS THERE ANY WAY TO PARSE THIS OUT AND THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO. SO AGAIN, IT SOUNDS GOOD IN THEORY, TO HAVE ONE SOURCE, HAVE THE COUNTY BE THE ONE TO MEDIATE OR BE THE INTERMEDIARY AS IT RELATESTO THIS SECOND CART SERVICE, IT SOUNDS GREAT, I GET THAT, BUT I FIND THE BIG PICTURE, IT DOES NOT BODE WELL, TO COMMISSIONER CONDON'S POINT, THERE ARE LINE ITEMS AND THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE ANOTHER LINE ITEM WHEN WE CAN SAY THAT WE FEEL IT AND THEN MAKE DECISIONS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE WHEN THAT NOTICE COMES IN THE MAIL ONCE PER YEAR. I JUST HAVE SERIOUS TREPIDATION ABOUT THIS BECOMING AN IN-HOUSE FUNCTION. 
          >> BUT WHAT HOWARD SAID WASN'T HAVING A GOVERNMENT INVOLVED IN IT, HE WAS SAYING FCC WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WOULD BE BILLING BUT IT WOULD JUST BE ON CALL BASIS. 
          >> JUST TO ADD, SO CURRENTLY IN THE FCC CONTRACT, IT PROVIDES THAT FCC WILL WORK WITH THE CUSTOMER FOR THE PAYMENTS, WHICH COULD INCLUDE QUARTERLY, BIANNUAL OR ANNUAL, SO IT IS A CUSTOMER OPTION FOR THAT. I THINK ONE OF THE PROBLEMS, AND WITHOUT D MIKE -- YOU MIGHT KNOW BETTER, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE WERE HAVING WITH THE CART, BECAUSE WE PURCHASE THEM AND WE OWN THEM AND THEY GO TO THE PROPERTY, THE PROBLEM WAS IF THEY FAILED TO PAY AND IF FCC PICKS THEM UP, THERE IS A LOGISTIC ISSUE BECAUSE WE OWN THE CART, THEY LEASE THEM, I 
          KNOW THAT IS ONE OF THE SHIFTS. >> WE ACTUALLY GOT A WHOLE SECOND COMPANY DELIVERING THE FIRST SET OF CARTS, NOW YOU HAVE FCC WITH THE SECOND SET AND THEY ARE BILLING FOR THE SECOND SET AND WE ARE IN CHARGE OF THE OTHER SET. EVERYTHING IS GOING TO GET CROSSED UP. OUR THOUGHT WAS, BECAUSE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CART IS OURS. WE BOUGHT THEM. 
          >> OKAY, BUT IN THAT ARGUMENT, IF IT IS NOT PAID OR I SENT BACK MY LETTER THAT SAYS IN MAY, BY WHATEVER THE DATE IS SO IT CAN BE BILLED ON MY OCTOBER 1ST, THEN YOU SET FCC IS GOING TO PICK IT UP ANYWAY, OR IF I HAVE A MAINTENANCE ISSUE, FCC IS SUPPOSED TO COME AND CHANGE OUT THAT CART. SOME OF IT JUST DOESN'T ADD UP COMPLETELY, THE THINGS THEY ARE SAYING THEY CAN DO AND WILL DO AND WILL NOT DO. I HAVE TO SAY, I DIDN'T TALK SPECIFICALLY WITH THE CEO, I CALLED AND LEFT A MESSAGE, AND THAT IS FINE, THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE TO ME, BUT IF I HAVE A BUNCH OF ANGRY CUSTOMERS, I MEAN WHAT IF THERE'S AN ISSUE IN THE POSTAL SERVICE, LAST WEEK WITH THE CANVASSING BOARD, WE HAD ABSENTEE BALLOTS THAT CAME IN LATE BECAUSE OF THE POSTAL SERVICE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT, AND TO SAY THAT FCC IS GOING TO IMMEDIATELY PULL UP AND KNOW THAT THEY HAVEN'T PAID THE BILL, SO MY PICKUP DAY IS MONDAYS CURRENTLY, OR TUESDAYS CURRENTLY SO IF THE FIRST IS A TUESDAY, THEY KNOW IF I PAID IT. I DON'T KNOW. IT JUST 
          FEELS SO -- >> I THINK IF WE ARE WORRIED 
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ABOUT NOT GETTING PHONE CALLS, YOU ARE GOING TO GET PHONE CALLS ANYWAY, I DON'T CARE WHO IS RESPONSIBLE. 
          >> THAT DOESN'T GO AWAY, FOR SURE. 
          >> AND QUITE HONESTLY, THE MORE WE CAN CONTROL, THE BETTER OFF WE CAN RESOLVE THE ISSUES. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THIS. 
          >> IT ALWAYS MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE WHEN WE WANT TO MAINTAIN CONTROL, IT ALWAYS MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE. 
          >> WHEN IT IS OUR MONEY, I WANT TO CONTROL IT, BECAUSE THEY PAID FOR IT AND IF SOMETHING ISN'T RIGHT, IF THE TRUCK DIDN'T SHOW UP, YOU KNOW. I DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU ALLUDED TO, IT BEING ON THE TAX BILL AND THAT IS A LIABILITY, WITHOUT PAYMENT, BECAUSE THAT ISN'T GOING TO CHANGE, THAT 
          HAS BEEN THERE FOR 15 YEARS. >> WHAT DOES CHANGE, IF I CAN'T PAY THE 60 SOME ODD DOLLARS FOR MY SECOND CART TO BE DELIVERED SO I'M ALREADY PAYING THE EXTRA $34 AND IF I CANNOT PAY THAT EXTRA $60 BY WHATEVER THE DATE IS, MARCH 31ST, THEN I COULD LOSE MY HOME, THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN TODAY. AND I HAVE PEOPLE THAT THIS IS A VERY REAL THING. 
          I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU, YOU CAN GO AND LOOK AT THE TAX ROLLS, ABOUT 50% OF MY DISTRICT LIVE IN MOBILE HOMES AND THEY ARE TAXED DIFFERENTLY. THERE ARE PEOPLE, IF YOU HAVE SEEN THE EMAILS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH TO THE COMMISSIONERS, WHEN THEY SAY YOU RAISED MY GARBAGE FEE HIGHER THAN MY PROPERTY TAX BILL, THEY ARE NOT EXAGGERATING, BECAUSE THEY PAID TAXES ON THEIR LAND AND THEY HAVE PAID MUCH LIKE A CAR REGISTRATION FOR THEIR MOBILE HOME SO THEY PAY IT DIFFERENTLY. THEY ARE NOT PAYING THE SAME WAY AS THIS BRICK-AND-MORTAR HOUSE IS WITH TAXES. WHEN THEY PLAN THEIR BUDGET, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE PLANNING THEIR BUDGET, IF YOU HAVE AN ANNUAL INCREASE, IT IS OVER 100 MORE AND I THINK THAT COULD BE A BURDEN ON SOME BUT I WILL LET IT GO. 
          >> BUT THE SERVICE IS THE SAME, SO YOU KNOW, WE CAN ARGUE THAT, THE EQUITY OF THE BUREAUCRATIC SYSTEM, IT IS NOT . 
          >> SOMEONE ENTERTAINED THIS DISCUSSION AND I'M TRYING TO FORMULATE IN MY OWN MIND, AS TO HOW WE SHOULD PROCEED, SO I THINK IF IT IS UNWISE TO BE IN THE MIDDLE THEN MAYBE THAT IS THOUGHT WE SHOULD GIVE TO IT AND WE SHOULD LET FCC HANDLE THAT AND COME UP WITH A GAME PLAN AS TO HOW THEY NOTIFY US THAT THE PERSON THAT OWNS THE CAN IS NOT PAID, IN MOST CASES THERE IS ALWAYS A DELAY, IF YOU DON'T PAY, UNLESS IT IS A CABLE TV OR YOUR CELL PHONE, MOST PEOPLE CANNOT SHUT YOU OFF 
          RIGHT AWAY. >> WAYS THAT THINGS CAN GET SCREWED UP. THAT IS AN EVERYDAY TYPE OF THING. IF THERE IS AN ELEMENT IN THE CONTRACT THAT ALLOWS US TO GO BACK TO FCC, WE SHOULD GO BACK TO FCC AND LET THEM HANDLE IT. DO WHATEVER WORKS TO GET REPORTING. I THINK THAT COULD BE QUITE A BIT. $66 PLUS ANOTHER $60 IN CHANGE FOR A YEAR'S WORTH OF SERVICES. THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING QUARTERLY, BIANNUALLY AND ANNUALLY THAT WILL GIVE THE CUSTOMER AN OPPORTUNITY TO DECIDE. 
          >> IT IS AN OPTION IN THE CONTRACT. 
          >> $66 IS A ONE-TIME FEE. >> THAT IS JUST FOR THE CART. 
          >> THE ONLY THING ON THE ASSESSMENT IS THE SERVICE. 
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          >> THE 511 ACCUMULATES. MY POSITION REMAINS THE SAME. 
          >> TO MOVE US FORWARD THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT IS ALREADY IN PLACE. IT GOES BACK TO THE ORIGINAL WAY IT WOULD GO FORWARD THEN IT CHANGED. AND LEFT YOU HAVE ANY OTHER TRICKS 
          UP YOUR SLEEVE. >> CHAIRMAN IF YOU DO NOT MIND , WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT. IT IS THE ONE-TIME FEE, IT IS A LEASE BY AND FOR THE 10 YEARS THAT THE CONTRACT HAPPENS. THAT IS WHY YOU ARE PLAYING THE 66 DOLLARS FOR THE CARD. ONE ASPECT THAT I AM NOT SURE THEY TALKED ABOUT WHAT IF ON THE SECOND WE SELL IT TO FCC THEN IT DOES 
          COMPLETELY . >> IF THEY ARE WILLING TO DO IT 
          IT IS A GREAT SOLUTION. >> WHEN IT CAME TO TAKING THE CARD THAT IS WHERE THERE WAS AN ISSUE. WE DID SIGN A CONTRACT. 
          IT IS PART OF A FEE, IT IS BUILT IN. THAT MAY BE SOMETHING TO ADDRESS. IF FCC HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BILL ANNUALLY THAT ALLEVIATES THE MONTHLY PROBLEM. WHO OWNS IT? WE BOUGHT THEM ALL. THE REASON WE BOUGHT THEM, IT IS IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT. IT WAS A VOLUME RATE AND WE PAID THE TAXES. I THINK THAT WILL LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD. MAYBE WE CAN NEGOTIATE WITH THEM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PURCHASE IT FROM US AND PROVIDE A SERVICE. THAT MAY BE THE FINAL SOLUTION. 
          >> LET'S BE REAL IF THEY ARE SQUABBLING WITH US ON WHO OWNS A $66 CART WE HAVE BIGGER ISSUES. IF ANYONE THINKS THERE ARE GOING TO BE ISSUES IF THEY ON THE SECOND, THIRD AND FOURTH CARD AND WE OWNED THE FIRST THAT IS A NIGHTMARE WAITING TO HAPPEN. IT IS WHAT HOWARD JUST SAID. 
          >> WHY WOULD WE DO THAT? >> THAT IS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. THE SECOND WOULD BE $95. IT WILL CHANGE. IF THEY ARE GETTING THE CART FROM FCC WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE PRICES WOULD BE FOR THE SECOND, THIRD AND FOURTH. 
          >> THAT IS DIFFERENT TO THE CONTRACT THAT THEY AGREED TO AND SIGNED. THIS IS A FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT. 
          >> I WAS NOT TOTALLY INVOLVED. HEATHER AND JAMIE WERE PROBABLY INVOLVED. KELLY CAN HELP US. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF CAME UP WITH. THERE WAS THE CONCERN OF THE PERSON NOT PAYING THE BILL AND LOSING THE CARD. IF WE WANT TO NOD THEM IN THE CONTRACT THAT IS FINE. DO YOU STILL WANT THE CHANGE? THIS IS TOTALLY THE STAFF INITIATIVE BECAUSE OF THE CONCERN FOR THE 
          CITIZEN. >> WE HAVE TO DO THE CHANGE TO THE PLASTIC BAG AND I AM WILLING TO SUPPORT THAT. THE 
          PLASTIC BAG -- >> LET'S SPLIT IT. WILL TAKE THE FIRST PART OF THE AMENDMENT. 
          >> THE MOVEMENT WAS APPROVED. >> SECOND . 
          [04:10:01]
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FIRST PART OF THE MADMAN THAT MAKES THE PLASTIC BAG OPTIONAL. IT IS IN PLACE OF DAVE PAPERBACK. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? 
          >> THAT PASSES. I AM NOT GOING TO TOUCH THE SECOND ONE. 
          >> LET'S HOLD OFF AND GO BACK, IT WILL STAY AS IS. EVERYONE MAKE SURE AND REGROUP LIKE YOU CAN BILL LIKE THE CONTRACT SAYS QUARTERLY, WHATEVER AND WE WILL REPORT BACK TO YOU. 
          >> WE WILL COME BACK NEXT MEETING. 
          >> MAY BE I KNOW CHRISTINE CANNOT BE HERE NEITHER COULD BE CHARLIE IF THEY HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE ISSUE 
          MAYBE THEY CAN HELP US OUT. >> YOU DO NOT NEED, WE DO NOT 
          NEED TO VOTE ON THE. >> HERE IS ITEM NUMBER 26. IT 
          [26.  Governors Park Road Naming Results and Evaluation (D. Hane)]
IS GOVERNORS PARK ROAD NAMING. 
          >> THAT AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION IS A FOLLOW-UP FROM TWO WEEKS AGO. WE STARTED IN A TRACK AND GETTING DIRECTIONS AND NAMING A NEW ROADWAY IN GOVERNORS PARK. WE CONDUCTED A STAFF SURVEY AND WE COME BACK TO YOU WITH THE TOP FIVE OF THAT IT NAMES. WE CAME BACK TO YOU WITH THE TOP SIX VETTED NAMES. WE HAD SOME VARIATIONS OF THE SIXTH ONE THAT WERE SIMILAR. IN ANY CASE WE ARE HOPEFUL WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION AND GET THE BALL OVER THE FINISH LINE TONIGHT. I AM HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY 
          DISCUSSION WITH YOU. >> THAT SIX RECOMMENDATIONS CAME FROM STAFF. THERE WERE VERY GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          >> I THINK I SEE AT LEAST ONE ON HERE. 
          >> WAS HE THE MAGNOLIA? >> MAGNOLIA SPRINGS. 
          >> THAT IS OKAY. >> I THINK HE HAD A DIFFERENT 
          ONE THERE. >> IF YOU WANT MY RECOMMENDATION ALL OF THEM ARE GOOD. THERE IS ONE ON THEIR THAT NO ONE WILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH I THINK. IT IS OUR HERITAGE, THERE ARE OAK TREES IN CLAY COUNTY. IT IS GREEN. 
          ALL THE REST I THINK SOME PEOPLE WILL HAVE ISSUES WITH. 
          >> SOUTHERN OAK PARKWAY, THE BATTERY IN MY CELL PHONE JUST WENT DEAD. B THAT STUCK OUT HENRY CLAY PARKWAY AND I REALLY LIKE JEREMY MCKAY PARKWAY I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE AS A FIRE STATION. WE WOULD DO THE RESEARCH IF THERE ARE OTHER FIREFIGHTERS THAT WE WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE. WE HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED DEPUTIES WHO OF LOSS THEIR LIVES IN THE LINE OF DUTY. I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT JEREMY MCKAY WE TALKED ABOUT JENNINGS MARIE RESERVING NOTHING LIKE THAT FOR FUTURE DATE. CERTAINLY IT IS YOUR DISTRICT. I THOUGHT MAGNOLIA SPRINGS IS A LITTLE CONFUSING. WE HAVE SPRINGS PARK. 
          >> I LIKE THE IDEA OF HENRY CLAY PARKWAY MYSELF. HE IS THE REASON THAT WE HAVE OUR NAME. WE COULD HAVE A NICE PLAQUE. IT 
          [04:15:01]
WAS FORMALLY KNOWN AS 17 BYPASS. CLAY PARKWAY, I AM STUCK ON CLAY PARKWAY. AS THAT COMMISSIONER CALLED ME ON THE SOUTHERN OAK LIVE HOTLINE. IT IS HISTORIC. I WAS GOING TO DO A SEARCH AND THE OTHER 17 CLAY COUNTY'S IF ANYONE ELSE HAD A CLAY PARKWAY. I THINK IT IS AN HISTORICAL NAME AND IT CERTAINLY FITS IN THIS CATEGORY. 
          >> I KNOW YOU ARE QUIET OVER THERE, THE ONLY THING THAT RESONATED WITH ME AS OLD JERRY THAT ROAD GOES TOWARDS THE OLD RIGHT DAIRY THERE IS SOME HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE IN THAT PARTICULAR REGION OF THE COUNTY. I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT ONE BEFORE. THAT WAS INTERESTING. 
          >> DO WE HAVE ANY ROADS WITH JERRY IN IT? I AM TALKING ABOUT WHAT EXISTS. DAIRY IS A BIG DEAL. 
          >> MA'AM, I KNOW WE VETTED THE NAMES THAT CAME IN. THERE COULD BE A VARIATION. I MAY HAVE ASKED THAT QUESTION. WE WENT WITH WHAT THE SUBMITTALS WERE. 
          >> WASN'T THERE I DAIRY ROAD. 
          >> THERE IS A JERRY LANE. >> 
          >> ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS WAS CLAY DAIRY PARKWAY. THEY 
          MENTIONED THE SPECIFIC DAIRY. >> WE MIGHT ASK THE OPPORTUNITY 
          TO VET THAT. >> ALWAYS CONNECTING THE TWO 
          OTHER OPTIONS. >> CLAY IN THE NAME. 
          >> THAT WAS WELL DONE. >> CAN I SAY THAT COMMISSIONER 
          IS REALLY MILKING IT NOW. >> I WILL TAKE A MOTION. 
          >> THERE WAS LITTLE DAIRY ROAD, LITTLE DAIRY LANE, 
          >> WAS IT BECAUSE OF CONFUSION AT THAT TIME? 
          >> IS IT IN THE SAME VICINITY? 
          >> CLAY DAIRY HAS BEEN VETTED BY OUR 911 ADDRESS DEPARTMENT. 
          >> I RECOMMEND CLAY DAIRY PARKWAY. 
          >> DO I TAKE A SECOND? >> SECOND. 
          >> I HAVE A MOTION OF SECOND, CLAY DAIRY PARKWAY.ALL THOSE IN 
          FAVOR SAY AYE? >> AYE . 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. 
          [35.  Discussion of Appointments to the Middleburg/Clay Hill Citizens Advisory Committee]
          >> ARE WE DOWN TO 35? DISCUSSION OF APPOINTMENTS TO THE MIDDLEBURG CLAY HILL CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          >> TERESA HAS BEEN BUGGING US TO GET THIS ON THE AGENDA. ONE OF THE MEMBERS, HURT TERM HAD EXPIRED WE WOULD LIKE TO RENEW HER TURN THAT IS KAREN JOHNS. I AM NOT SURE IF IT WAS HELPFUL WITH THE MAP BECAUSE THE DISTRICT IS LARGE. TO MAKE SURE WE HAD REPRESENTATION FAIRLY ACROSS, IF EVERYONE DOES NOT HAVE AN ISSUE MY RECOMMENDATION FOR APPOINTMENT AT THIS TIME ARE GOING TO BE APPLICANTS NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER THREE POLLOCK CLOUD AND ERIN SAYER . DO NOT KNOW YOUR STUFF AWAY THE OTHER SEAT ARE COMING BACK. WE WILL REVISIT THE MAP AT THAT TIME. MY RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD TO BE HAVE THEIR REPRESENTATION IN THE MIDDLE EAST, THE MIDDLE PART. 
          [04:20:08]
          >> THE NOMINATION IS -- >> POLLOCK CLOUD AND ERIN SAYER 
          . ALSO TO KEEP KAREN JOHNS. >>, WE HAVE A MOTION? 
          >> THAT IS MY MOTION. >> IS THERE A MOTION OF A SECOND FOR POLLOCK CLOUD AND ERIN SAYER . WHAT IS THE THIRD? 
          >> KAREN JOHNS . >> ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS.I'LL SAY AYE. 
          [36.  Bid Opening Tabulations (K. Smith)]
          >>> HERE IS ITEM 36 BID OPENING TABULATION. WHAT IS A FOR? IT IS FOR AN RF PEAK, A BID FOR A BATHROOM. THE BATHROOM BID WE REJECTED FOR A SINGLE BIDDER. WE WILL START WITH PUBLIC ON THE CANDIDATES PUBLIC COMMENTS, IF YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ON ANYTHING. DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS? I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. I WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. WE ARE AT 
          [COMMISSION AUDITOR]
          COMMISSION AUDITOR. >> HELLO EVERYONE. I KNOW YOU WILL THAT YOU ARE DONE TALKING ABOUT GARBAGE TODAY. I HAVE A FEW MORE THINGS FOR YOU. BASED ON ALL OF THE CONVERSATION AND CONCERN THAT WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT FCC AND SOME OF THE PERFORMANCE AND SURROUNDING COUNTIES, I AM DOING AN AUDIT OF THE FCC TRANSITION PLAN. A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, FCC PROVIDED US WITH A TRANSITION PLAN THAT OUTLINED THEIR COORDINATION PRIOR TO THE START OF THE CONTRACT, OCTOBER 1ST FOR EQUIPMENT, PERSONNEL, FACILITIES, ROUTES, CUSTOMER SERVICE OFFER, REPORTS AND COMMUNICATION FOR OUR CONTRACT. 
          THEY ALSO PROVIDED A COLLECTION PLANNED THAT FURTHER DETAILED SOME OF THE I DIDN'T IN THE TRANSITION PLAN INCLUDING THE ROUTES, STOPPING AND THE EQUIPMENT.  AGAIN THE PURPOSE OF MY AUDIT IS TO IDENTIFY THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAD OUTLINED IN THE TRANSITION PLAN. THEY PROVIDED THEM TO US. 
          THE COLLECTION PLANNED THAT WAS DATED JUNE 19TH, 2024. I AM GOING TO IDENTIFY THOSE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY SET OUT. 
          I WILL REVIEW DOCUMENTATION TO ENSURE THEY HAVE COMPLETED THEIR NECESSARY STEPS PRIOR TO THE OCTOBER FIRST START DATE. 
          SO THE NEXT SLIDE THAT WE HAVE YES MA'AM, THANK YOU TERESA. 
          YOU ARE LOOKING TO SEE IF HE HAS ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS. 
          WHAT IS INFORMATION WILL WE BE GIVEN IN THE EVENT THEY YOU DISCOVER SOME OF THAT HAS NOT BEEN MET. 
          >> I WILL ANSWER THAT IN A FEW SLIDES, THANK YOU. GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT. THE NEXT SLIDE HAS THE TIMELINE. PLANNING, I STARTED IT A FEW WEEKS AGO. THAT WAS IDENTIFYING, THIS WILL GO INTO THE NEXT SLIDE. I WILL GO FOR THE TIMELINE, PLANNING I IDENTIFIED THOSE REQUIREMENTS. I FINISH MY PLANNING LAST WEEK STARTED THE FIELD WORK, I STARTED TO DO SOME OF THE TESTING. I PLAN ON ENDING FIELDWORK OCTOBER 15TH. THAT IS AFTER THE START DATE OF OCTOBER 1ST BUT SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS ARE UP TO SEPTEMBER 30TH. IN ORDER TO GET THE DOCUMENTATION AND DO THE TESTING THAT IS WHY THE 
          [04:25:02]
FIELDWORK IS GOING INTO THE START DAY. THAT IS THE SAME WITH REPORTING. I WILL START WITH THE REPORTING FOR THE TESTING THAT I HAVE ALREADY DONE. I WILL START OCTOBER 8 TO THE END OF THE MONTH, WE WILL HAVE A FINAL REPORT BY THE END OF A TOBER. THE NEXT SLIDE WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. JUST OUTLINING WHAT I AM DOING AND EACH PHASE OF THE AUDIT. I AGAIN IF I 25 REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED IN THE TRANSITION PLAN, I DEVELOPED TESTING STEPS FOR THOSE REQUIREMENTS AND I PROVIDED THE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICE STAFF OF THE LIST OF REQUESTED ITEMS TO TEST ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS. FIELDWORK IS BUT I AM IN RIGHT NOW. I AM MEETING WITH ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES STAFF TO DISCUSS THOSE ITEMS I AM ATTENDING THE WEEKLY MEETINGS TOOK OVER THE PROGRESS OF THE TRANSITION PLAN, REVIEWING TESTING ITEMS. TWO OF THE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN TESTING WITH NO ISSUES NOTED. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AS SOON AS I IDENTIFY AN ISSUE WITH ANY OF THE TESTING AND AS SOON AS I HAVE IN VETTED THAT WITH ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES STAFF WE AGREE THEY MISSED SOMETHING. I WILL REPORT IT TO YOU. WE HAVE DISCUSSED I WILL DO UPDATES AT EVERY BOARD MEETING UNTIL THE FINAL REPORT UNTIL YOU SEE THE UPDATES OF THOSE TESTING REPORTS. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? 
          >> AGAIN REPORTING, WE WILL HAVE A FORMAL AUDIT REPORT THAT OUTLINES ALL OF THE TESTING AND IN THE ISSUES THAT I HAVE COME ACROSS IT WILL BE THE OVERALL RESULTS OF THE FIELDWORK. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. 
          >> ARE YOU USING THE TEMPLATE OR IS THERE ONE THAT YOU 
          CREATED? >> I AM NOT USING A TEMPLATE. I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THE TWO ITEMS THAT WE HAVE TESTED SO FAR. ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE TRANSITION PLAN WOULD THEY WOULD PROVIDE US WITH THE COLLECTION PLAN. THAT IS AN EASY ROUTE HARMON FOR THEM TO ACCOMPLISH. THAT ONE WAS EASY. 
          THE OTHER ONE THAT I TOOK A LOOK AT THAT HAS PASSED SO FAR, LET ME PULL IT UP. IT SAYS FCC WILL PERFORM IN THE SHOW FIELD AUDITS TO PROVIDE SERVICES IN CLAY COUNTY. I CREATED A LIST OF STEPS TO TEST THAT. JUST A LITTLE AUDIT BACKGROUND FOR YOU GUYS. WE HAVE WAYS TO TEST WHAT WE CALL OUR CONTROLS. WE HAVE INQUIRY, INSPECTION, EVERY PERFORMANCE. I CANNOT GO BACK AND RE-PERFORM WHAT THEY DID HERE I HAVE REQUIRED INQUIRED WHAT THEY DID FOR THEIR AUDIT. I HAVE INSPECTED DOCUMENTATION. 
          SOME OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS I WILL BE OBSERVING. FOR INSTANCE THE EQUIPMENT. JAME AND I ARE GOING LATER THIS WEEK TO TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT FCC HAS GOTTEN IN. WE WILL CHECK THE VEHICLE I.D. NUMBERS, AND ALSO THE SOFT WHERE IS INCLUDED. YES. I KNOW WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE ROUTES. IN THEIR TRANSITION PLAN THEY SAID THEY WOULD START RUNNING ROUTES IN THE COUNTY. HOWARD AND I WILL BE ON THOSE TRUCKS. WE WANT TO OBSERVE THOSE ROUTES. 
          >> IT IS NOT A TEMPLATE. >> THERE IS NOT A IT 
          IS HOW I KNOW HOW TO AUDIT. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER 
          [COUNTY ATTORNEY]
          QUESTIONS? >> 
          >> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT WE ARE MOVING RIGHT ALONG. WE HAVE AN ITEM THAT WE NEED YOU TO VOTE ON. 
          [04:30:13]
UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA. HOWARD AND I LEARNED ABOUT IT THIS MORNING. IT IS AN CONNECTION WITH THE OBSERVATION RESOLUTION THAT THE BOARD ADOPTED A FEW MONTHS AGO TO PUT THE BOND REFERENDUM ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT. THERE WAS SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT WE INCLUDED. IT PROVIDED A YES OR A NO RESPONSE. THERE IS A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT. THEY ARE SAYING YES FOR BONDS OR NO FOR BONDS. I HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE RESOLUTION THAT PROVIDES FOR INCLUSION FOR THOSE WORDS TO THAT BALLOT LANGUAGE. WE SPOKE TO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION. IF WE CAN GIVE HIM THAT HE WILL HAVE NO PROBLEM ADDING THAT TO THE BALLOT. I AM ASKING FOR APPROVAL TO THE AMENDMENT TO THE RESOLUTION 2023-2024. 
          >> I WILL MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> I WILL SECOND . 
          >> THERE IS THE SECOND FOR APPROVAL FOR IT IS 2023, 23 FOR SELECT FINE.ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE . 
          [COUNTY MANAGER]
          >> CHAIR COMMISSIONER THERE IS ONE ITEM. SUCH A TRUCK IS COMING UP. BAPTIST HEALTH IS THE PRESENTING SPONSOR. THERE ARE QUITE A FEW OTHERS TO HELP US OUT WITH THE COST. IT IS SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 28. AFTER 11:00. FROM 11:00-2:00 THERE WILL BE LIGHTS IN SOUNDS. THEY WILL BE FOR THAT TRUCKS WITH LIGHTS AND FLASHERS. IT IS OPENED UP TOO MANY DIFFERENT AREAS ACROSS THE BOARD. IT IS THAT THAT CLAY COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS, SATURDAY SEPTEMBER 20TH FROM 9:00-11:00. YOU WANT TO GET THAT WORD OUT. WE WANT PEOPLE TO ATTEND. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, THAT IS ALL I HAVE. 
          >> I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING. HAVE A GREAT NIGHT EVERYONE. 
          [COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]
          >> I WAIT UNTIL YOU CALL MY NAME. I AM NOT STEPPING ON ANY TOES. A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          IT WAS AN ACCEPTANCE OF GRANT MONEY FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA. IT WAS FOR THE INITIAL PHASE OF BUILDING A BOARDWALK HERE, I BRING THAT UP IF YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS THERE IS A NATURE HIKE THERE BETWEEN 9:00-10:00. I AM SURE THE STAFF WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU ABOUT THAT. THAT HAS BEEN A REQUIREMENT OF HOURS FOR THE STATE GIVING US THAT PROPERTY. 
          THAT IS A BIG ONE. THAT IS SOMETHING I THINK MOST RESIDENTS WILL REALLY ENJOY WHEN THEY GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT IT IS ABOUT. THERE IS $375 FOR CONSTRUCTION AND --. 
          IT IS A BIG WOODEN STRUCTURE GIVEN TO THE COUNTY. IT IS THE STIPULATION THAT WE MAINTAIN IT. IT IS ABOUT A $750 REPAIR BUDGET. THE PRESSURE TREATED LUMBER. WE GOT THE STATE DELEGATION TO GIVE US RE-HUNDRED $75,000 OF US. THAT WILL GET STARTED THIS YEAR. HOPEFULLY WE WILL PUNISH THE JOB NEXT YEAR. CERTAINLY THE FOLKS REALLY LOVE THAT. THE RUNNING TRAIL THAT CROSSES THE WOODEN BRIDGE. WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE AS SOON AS THERE IS A BOARD MISSING OR CAR CRASHES INTO IT WE KNOW ABOUT IT PRETTY QUICKLY. BOTH OF THOSE THINGS ARE BIG. I WANTED TO POINT THOSE OUT. ALSO A BIG MOMENT WILL BE SEPTEMBER 19TH AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL FROM 5:00-7:00 IT WILL BE A PUBLIC MEETING. IT IS THE FOUR-LANE, LITTLE CREEK BLACK BRIDGE. THERE WILL BE SOME CLOSURES. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW ALL ABOUT THAT. WE PLAN TO DO THAT AGAIN ON SEPTEMBER 19TH. THAT IS BIG NEWS THERE. IT IS A 
          [04:35:06]
MILLION-DOLLAR DEAL BY THE TIME IT IS ALL SAID AND DONE. THERE WILL BE THE NEW INTERSECTION. THERE WILL BE SOME WORK ON THE OTHERS SIDE OF THAT. THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          >> ONE THINK TONIGHT. I WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW CLAY COUNTY IS KICKING UP VETERAN DAY WEEKEND WITH A 5K IN A SOFT ALL EXHIBITION GAME ON THE NINTH OF NOVEMBER FROM 8:00-3:00, THE 5K IS THAT THE OAK LEAF COMMUNITY PARK. CHECK IN BEGINS AT 6:30 AND THE RACE WILL START AT 8:00. THERE WILL BE AN AWARDS FOR THE 5K RUNNERS. THERE WILL BE A CEREMONY WHEN WE WILL PREVENT THE FLAG AND HONOR THE VETERANS. AT 11:30 THERE WILL BE AND EXHIBITION GAME US OFF ALL FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO ENGAGE AT THE PARK. I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY STAFF TO PULL THIS TOGETHER. THEY HAVE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB WITH THE VETERANS COUNCIL. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP. ALL AGES ARE WELCOME FOR THE SOFTBALL GAME IN PARTICULAR WE ARE OPENING UP LINEUP UTTERANCE FIRST. I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. IT IS A HAT TIP TO THEIR SERVICE. IF THERE ARE ANY AVAILABILITIES BEYOND THAT WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC. ANYONE CAN COME OUT. FEEL FREE TO CHECK OUT THE WEBSITE. THE ROUTE LAUNCHED THAT. THEY HAVE BEEN DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB WITH THE FLYERS. COMMISSIONERS ANTICIPATE GETTING A COPY OF THIS WITH THE COLORS. IT WOULD NOT BE A BLUE BACKGROUND THERE WILL BE SOME READ IT, YES. 
          THOSE WILL BE IN YOUR INBOX FOR YOU GUYS TO SEE AND DISTRIBUTE. 
          I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR 
          HELP. THAT IS ALL I GOT. >> I HAVE HAD COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE VICE PRESIDENT OF PUBLIC RELATIONS. ALSO WITH THE DISTRICT MANAGER. THE CLAY ELECTRIC BOARD JUST VOTED TO PURSUE SOME GRANT FUNDING TO PROVIDE INTERMITTENT AS AN OPTION TO ALL OF THEIR CUSTOMERS. THIS WOULD CROSS ALL FIVE OF OUR DISTRICTS. THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR AN OPTION FOR INTERNET SERVICE. I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT YOUR DISTRICTS. I REMEMBER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT INTERNET THREE YEARS AGO. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT HOT AND HEAVY. I DID NOT REALIZE IT PEOPLE DID NOT HAVE A CHOICE OF A PROVIDER FOR THEIR INTERNET. WE DID THE COUNTY GRANT WHICH A LOT OF THE PEOPLE IN CLAY HILL IN KEYSTONE HEIGHTS DID THAT. THEY DID THE GRANT WITH COMCAST. THEY FINISHED PHASE 1, I WILL SHARE WITH YOU FRUSTRATINGLY THE REST OF THE PROJECT HAS COME TO A COMPLETE HALT. I HEAR FROM CONSTITUENTS WEEKLY THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE AN INTERNET OPTION. WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS. IN MANY OF THOSE CASES THEY DO NOT HAVE A GREAT CELL PHONE PROVIDER. 
          NOW AT&T IS REMOVING THE ABILITY TO HAVE A LAND LINE. 
          PEOPLE HAVE NO ACCESS TO CALL 911 FROM THEIR HOME. THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE NEAREST PAVED ROAD OR GO TO THE FIRE STATION. CLAY ELECTRIC IS ASKING US TO GIVE THEM A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THIS GRANT FUNDING. WE WERE GOING TO GET THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE THEY ARE LOOKING FOR. IF THERE IS CONSENSUS I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE IT TO THE COUNTY MANAGER. THAT WOULD BE FOR THE FUTURE AGENDAS SO WE CAN GIVE SUPPORT TO CLAY ELECTRIC, PROVIDING INTERNET THROUGH THE ELECTRIC COOPERATIVES, AND NORTHWEST FLORIDA, ONE OF THE ELECTRIC CO-OPS OUT THERE IT MUST HAVE DONE WELL. AT ONE TIME CLAY ELECTRIC'S BOARD WAS COMPLETELY OPPOSED TO THIS. THEY HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE ALREADY. IT IS JUST AN ADDITION. IF NO ONE HAS THE 
          [04:40:05]
OBJECTION WILL WE GET THAT INFORMATION I WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT BACK. I THOUGHT IT WAS AN INTERESTING PURSUIT. ON MONDAY I WAS HONORED TO JOIN CONGRESSMAN DEAN, IN MELROSE, FLORIDA. THAT IS WHERE THE POST OFFICE IS LOCATED IN PUTNAM COUNTY. AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW IF YOU HAVE DRIVEN THROUGH MELROSE IT IS WHERE FOUR COUNTIES COME TOGETHER. PAM BROCK IS THE NAME OF A LETTER CARRIER THAT WORKED FOR THE POSTAL SERVICE. SHE LIVED IN KEYSTONE, SHE IS A CLAY COUNTY RESIDENT. SHE DELIVERED THE MAIL, A WONDERFUL STORY SHE HAD VOLUNTEERED FOR THREE YEARS IN THE PEACE CORPS. HER DEGREE WAS IN ACCRETION AND SHE EDUCATED MOMS ON NUTRITION. SHE WAS SPENDING HER SEMI RETIREMENT WORKING FOR THE POST OFFICE. SHE WAS ATTACKED BY DANGEROUS STOCKS AND MAULED TO DEATH. THE CONGRESSMAN WAS PLEASED TO AND WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE CONGRESSWOMAN WAS PLEASED TO PUSH THROUGH IN THE PAST LAST YEAR THE PAM ROCK ACT. PAM ROCK ACT WEBSITE YOU CAN SIGN A PETITION TO GET DANGEROUS DOGS REMOVED IN CERTAIN AREAS ACROSS OUR NATION IN ADDITION THEY SAID THERE IS A BILL HE TRIED TO GET TO THE FINISH LINE LAST YEAR IT DID NOT QUITE GET THERE. HE HAS SOMEONE SPONSORING IT GOING FORWARD. HE HAS A SENATOR SPONSORING IT, IT IS SENATOR COLLINS TO ADDRESS THE STATE STEPPING UP. WE AS A COMMISSION TWO YEARS AGO INCREASED, WE HAD AN AGGRESSIVE ORDINANCE TO HAVING A DANGEROUS DOG ORDINANCE. IT IS SO IMPORTANT. WE DO NOT WANT TO PUT ANY DOGS DOWN, IT IS NOT OUR INTENTION WE JUST WANT TO PROTECT PEOPLE. 
          IN THE SITUATION IT HAD A DETRIMENTAL OUTCOME. THEY ARE HONORING HER WITH THAT. IT WAS REALLY A CELEBRATION OF HER LIFE. SHE IS THE YOUNGEST OF 14 CHILDREN. SEVERAL OF HER SIBLINGS WERE THERE WAS SO AMAZING. IF YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT BACK IN 2016, THE WAY THE BLACK CREEK WATER RESOURCE PROJECT THAT STARTED WAS THE FIRST EVER WATER SUMMIT WHERE THEY HAD THE CONGRESSMAN AND ALL OF THE STATE AND LOCAL REPRESENTATION GOT TOGETHER IN ONE ROOM WITH THE CITY OF KEYSTONE HEIGHTS TO TRY TO SOLVE THE DRINKING WATER PROBLEM WHICH AFFECTS NORTHEAST FLORIDA AND THE LAKES ISSUE. 
          THAT IS HOW IT STARTED IN OCTOBER 2016. IT WAS IN 2016. 
          >> IT WAS OCTOBER, I WAS THERE. 
          >> WE ARE FINALLY REACHING THE CELEBRATION. DAVE TOWER LAKES, THE PROJECT IS ALMOST COMPLET. THE PIPES WILL BE TURNED ON BY DECEMBER. THE DECEMBER WILL BE OCTOBER 25TH. I WILL GIVE YOU A TIMELINE. EVERYONE WILL BE INVITED. SOLO IS PRESENTING THAT PARTY. THAT WILL BE SEPARATE. THERE WILL BE A TURN ON CEREMONY. I EXPECT FORMER SENATOR CHAIRMAN OF THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT MR. BRADLEY TO HAVE A BIG CELEBRATION. MY ONLY FINAL THING AND I DO NOT NEED AN ANSWER TONIGHT. I WAS GOING TO ASK IF WE COULD GET AN UPDATE ON THE MEALS ON WHEELS THINK. WE WERE LOOKING FOR AN ALTERNATIVE FOR ALL OF THE PEOPLE ON THE WAITING LIST. IF YOU CAN DO THAT THAT WOULD BE 
          APPRECIATED. THANK YOU. >> I ONLY HAVE A FEW ITEMS. IF YOU RECEIVE THIS RETURN ON INVESTMENT FLYER FROM THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA REGIONAL COUNCIL THEY DO THIS EVERY YEAR 
          >> DO WE SEE A RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT DUES. IT WAS 13-1. 
          THE RALLS COUNTY WAS 2-1. IT IS PREDICATED ON OUR DUES. THEY ARE KEY TO THE POPULATION. I THINK IT IS $.80 PER PERSON. 
          THAT CAME UP. DUVAL COUNTY IS PLAYING A LOT MORE THAN WE ARE. 
          [04:45:02]
ANYWAY YOU CAN SEE FOR EVERY ONE DOLLAR THAT WE SPEND ON REGIONAL COUNCIL WE GET A $13 RETURN. SOME OF THOSE ARE REGIONWIDE. SOME ARE FOCUSED ON THE COUNTY AND THE BENEFIT THAT WE GET. I THINK THAT IS WORTHY OF NOTE. ACA HAD A GRANT, A RIBBON-CUTTING ON MONDAY. IT WAS THEIR SIMULATION CENTER. 
          WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS WITH MANIKINS WITH ROBOTS THEY ARE SIMULATING HEALTH PROCEDURES AND OPERATION TYPE PROCEDURES WHERE THEY CAN SHOCK THE DUMMY, THE MANNA CAN. THE MANIKIN TALKS. ANYWAY THE IMPORTANT THING IS THEY SPEND ABOUT $6 MILLION ON THE SIMULATION CENTER. THEY HAVE 170 STUDENTS ANYWHERE FROM INTERNS TO FELLOWS THAT COME FROM ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES AND THE TRAIN THERE. HOPEFULLY WITH LOCATION, LOCATION SOMEONE WILL STAY. ONCE AGAIN HAVING THE LARGEST IN CLAY COUNTY. THE LARGEST TAXPAYER IN CLAY COUNTY, THAT IS A REAL BENEFIT THERE. THAT IS A GOOD THING. I SPENT A LOT OF TIME AT THE SUPERVISOR ELECTION OFFICE. YOU WILL SEE AN ARTICLE, IT WILL BE ON FACEBOOK TONIGHT. IT WAS A DISAPPOINTING TURNOUT FOR THE ELECTION. IT WAS 90% OF THE RICHEST HEARD VOTERS HERE WHAT IS INTERESTING TO NOTE HE HAS TO MAN UP FOR 100%. JUST THE TEMPORARY WORKERS IS A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE SELECTION. THEN WHEN YOU HAVE THE PERMANENT STAFF, THEN YOU ADD WHAT THE CANDIDATES PAY THERE ARE POSTERIOR SIGNS, MAIL OUTS AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF IT IS A LOT OF MONEY. THEN TO GET A CALL ON WEDNESDAY, WHEN IS THE PRIMARY? IT WAS YESTERDAY. IT IS A LITTLE FRUSTRATING. 
          THERE IS AN ARTICLE. ANYWAY WITH THAT IF THER
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.