Jul 23, 2024 BCC Workshop

[CALL TO ORDER]

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WORKSHOP TO ORDER. IT IS 9:02. I SEE WE HAVE ALL COMMISSIONERS

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

>>, COUNTY GROWTH A VAST INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IF THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD ASK FOR INPUT ON GROWTH BECAUSE WE HAVE TRAFFIC ON THE ROADS. I WANT TO THANK THE SHERIFF ALSO BECAUSE WE HAD A POLICE OFFICER OUT BY THE BRIDGE TODAY AND HOPEFULLY THAT IS SLOWING TRAFFIC DOWN. THE OTHER THING, MILLEDGE. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE PAYING THE TAXES ON I BELIEVE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE MILLAGE HELD AT WHAT IT IS. I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF ROADS AND STUFF GOING IN AND WE BONDED AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE WE WILL NEED ROADS FOR THE GROWTH, BUT I WOULD LIKE THE COMMISSIONERS TO PLEASE TRY TO HOLD THIS GROWTH DOWN. I KNOW A LOT OF YOU HAVE PROBABLY BEEN HERE MANY DECADES LONGER THAN ME , BUT IT IS GETTING TO THE POINT YOU CAN HARDLY TRAVEL ON 17 AT CERTAIN TIMES. SO IF YOU COULD HOLD THAT MILLAGE DOWN SO THAT OUR TAXES DON'T INCREASE AGAIN I WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT. A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE WITH THIS INFLATION HAVE A PROBLEM PAYING THE TAXES. SO I WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IF YOU HOLD THAT DOWN. THE OTHER THING IS THE COST OF THE JAIL. THAT IS THE NEXT BIG EXPENDITURE AND I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT WHEN LOOKING AT THE TAX INCREASE. I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF YOU COULD HOLD TAXES DOWN BECAUSE THE NEXT ONE WILL BE THE JAIL AND THAT WILL BE A BIG ONE. AND WE NEED IT BECAUSE THE JAIL KEEPS GETTING FILLED UP. SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU COULD LOOK INTO THAT. AS FAR AS BUILDING, YOU HAVE TO GET A HANDLE ON THESE BUILDERS. WE CANNOT SUSTAIN THIS BUILDING BEFORE WE HAVE THE ROADS IN. MY QUESTION WOULD BE PLEASE CHARGE THE BUILDER TO PUT THE ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN IF THEY WANT TO MAKE THE MONEY OFF THE SUBDIVISIONS THEY ARE PUTTING IN. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO ME. THANK YOU AND HAVE A GOOD DAY.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS BUDGET WORKSHOP? CNN, HEARING THAT WE CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. WE WILL MOVE INTO NEW BUSINESS. OVERVIEW IS GOING TO BE CONDUCTED BY A --

>> TROY NAGEL WILL BE GOING TO THE SLIDES. YOU SHOULD HAVE A PACKET OF THE SLIDES. WE WILL GO PRETTY IN DEPTH HERE. BASED UPON WHAT WE HAD ON A BUCKET -- BUDGET WORKSHOP A FEW MONTHS AGO WE MADE IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT. WE ARE CONSTANTLY MAKING IMPROVEMENTS IN THE BUDGET TO GET A BALANCE. YOU ALSO HAVE A PACKET OF ALL OF THE FUNDS AND A LARGE PRINTOUT OF CIP AND ARPA. THE FINAL THING IS YOU HAVE WHAT WILL BE READ TONIGHT FOR THE MILLAGE AND SETTING MAX MILLAGE FOR TONIGHT AT THE END SO WE WILL GO OVER THAT. PENDING ANY INITIAL QUESTIONS

[1.  Overview of Revenues]

>> TAKE IT AWAY. >> WE WILL GO OVER REVENUES.

COUNTY BUDGET REVIEW. THE CIP PLAN. THEN FOLLOW UP WITH NEXT STEPS. DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE OVERVIEW, THIS IS SHOWING YOU A SNAPSHOT OF WHERE WE ARE, WHERE WE ARE GOING. 21-22 COLLECTION, 22-23 COLLECTION. WHAT WE BUDGETED FOR 23-24, WHAT WE BRIEFED IN MARCH IS WHERE REVENUES WERE AND THIS COLUMN WHERE WE ARE AS OF JUNE OF 24. REVENUES FOR MOST OF THESE LAG ONE MONTH BECAUSE THEY REPORT TO THE STATE. REALLY YOU ARE LOOKING AT BEING TWO THIRDS THROUGH THE YEAR EXCEPT FOR THE

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AS YOU CAN SEE FOR MOST OF OUR REVENUES WE ARE IN THAT 65, 64%. THAT MUTUAL I 100% COMES IN AT SOME POINT. WE ARE DONE COLLECTING THAT FOR THE YEAR. WHAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD GIVE US THEY GAVE US AT 100%. OVERALL WE DO NOT HAVE A WINDFALL, BUT WE ARE NOT DRAGGING TOO FAR. I WILL ASK QUESTIONS ON EACH SLIDE JUST IN CASE. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE

REVENUE? >> THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT SALES TAX IS A LOT LOWER 55% THAN ANY OF THE OTHERS. IS THERE A

REASON? >> WE GO BASED ON THE CALCULATIONS OF THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE. I NEVER REALLY UNDERSTOOD. IT DOESN'T WORK OUT THAT WAY. WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS WE ARE COMING INTO THE SALES TAX SEASON WITH PEOPLE TRAVELING, HOLIDAYS , SO HOPEFULLY THAT IS WHAT IS REFLECTED IN THE AND HOPEFULLY THAT IS A LAGGING INDICATOR.

WHEN WE LOOKED AT TAKING LAST YEAR'S REVENUES FOR THE LINE ITEM IN ADDING THEM TO WHAT WE COLLECTED IT SEEMS LIKE IT WILL COME IN ON TARGET BUT, AGAIN, THAT IS THE ONLY EXPLANATION I COULD REALLY GIVE. WE ARE NOT INTO SUMMERTIME YOU AND HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL SPEND. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT IN REGARDS TO THAT, WE'VE ADDED ADDITIONAL TAX HOLIDAYS. I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THAT

[2.  Overview of County Budget]

>> THIS IS A RECAP OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE WORKSHOP BACK IN MARCH. CAN'T BELIEVE IT WAS MARCH. WE ARE MOVING SOFTWARE AND TELECOM TO THE I.T. BUDGET FOR THE MOST PART.

TO MAKE SURE WE STAY IN COMPLIANCE WITH FLORIDA STATUTE THAT SAYS WE CAN ONLY DO BUSINESS WITH CERTAIN SOFTWARE COMPANIES. WE CANNOT DO BUSINESS WITH SOFTWARE COMPANIES IN OTHER COUNTRIES. THIS ALLOWS THE I.T. DEPARTMENT TO HAVE GREATER INSIGHT. MOVING ALL CELL PHONES TO I.T.. HELPS THE PROCESSING AND INVOICING. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT 40 DEPARTMENTS ALL LOOKING AT A PHONE BILL EACH MONTH THAT IS 40 PEOPLE THAT ALL HAVE TO TOUCH A PHONE BILL. IF WE GET IT DOWN TO ONE OR TWO A PROVIDES FOR EFFICIENCY.

SIMILAR IN BUILDING MAINTENANCE. RIGHT NOW THEY WANT TO DO WORK IT IS GO TO THE DEPARTMENT, GET A P.O., COMEBACK, PROCESS THE INVOICE, THIS WILL STREAMLINE THE MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT WITH THEY ARE IN CHARGE OF FACILITY MAINTENANCE AND THE DOLLARS AGO WITH FACILITY MAINTENANCE VERSUS IT BEING SPREAD EVERYWHERE AND CREATING MORE BURDEN ON ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS. AGAIN, LAST YEAR WE STARTED MOVING TO A PROJECT BASED BUDGET. YOU WILL SEE THAT EXTENSIVELY IN THIS BUDGET THAT IF IT IS MORE THAN $20,000 WE ARE KIND OF MOVING INTO A PROJECT SO YOU CAN SEE IT, BREAK IT OUT, HAVE MORE TRANSPARENCY. FROM A BUDGETING PERSPECTIVE IT SEPARATES WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR HIM OPERATING TO KEEP THINGS RUNNING AT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE WHAT WE ARE DOING ABOVE TO IMPROVE. THAT IS WHERE YOUR PROJECT BASIS. I WOULD LIKE TO BUILD ASK, WOULD LIKE TO BUILD Y, THAT IS KIND OF THE CHANGE IN BUDGETING WE ARE DOING THIS YEAR.

>> THIS $22,000 SOFTWARE PROGRAM WOULD BE --

>> SOFTWARE IS PROBABLY THE ONE EXCEPTION FOR THE PROJECT. WE DO LIST ALL OF THE SOFTWARE AS WE ARE BUYING, BUT THEY ARE ALL UNDER I.T. BUDGET. WE DO NOT CREATE A SEPARATE PROJECT FOR EVERY SOFTWARE LINE ITEM. NOT ONLY CAPITAL. YOU WILL SEE AND HEAR AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS ONCE A CONTINGENCY FOR TREE TRIMMING. WE WILL CALL THAT OUT AS A PROJECT THE CONTRACT AND NO BECAUSE THAT IS PROVIDING THAT NEXT LEVEL OF SERVICE IF WE WILL DO THAT TREE TRIMMING OUTSIDE OF JUST THE NORMAL DEPARTMENT LEVEL. I AM TRYING TO THINK OF SOME OTHER GOOD EXAMPLES THAT ARE NOT CAPITAL.

>> I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THAT SEEMS AWFULLY LOW.

>> THE REASON BEING THAT TIES IN THE CONTRACT RULES. AT 20,000 ACQUIRE CONTRACT. IF WE REQUIRE CONTRACT AND WE FEEL IT NEEDS TO BE A PROJECT AND HAS SOME EYES ON IT.

>> WHY WE DO THAT. PROJECTS LISTED ARE OPERATIONAL PROJECTS OUTSIDE OF THE CIP. AS A GO THROUGH THIS BUDGET TODAY WE WILL TALK ABOUT CIP AT THE END . AS WE GO THROUGH EACH DEPARTMENT BUDGET UNDERSTAND THAT IS NOT CIP. THOSE ARE OPERATIONAL FUNDS COMING OUT OF EITHER THE GENERAL FUND OR OUT OF THEIR DEDICATED FUND FOR TOURISM OR BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

CIP IS TOTALLY SEPARATE AND THAT WILL BE AT THE END OF THE

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THE BLUE BOX MEANS IT IS GRAND. IF IT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN GRAY THAT MEANS THE PROJECT HAS BEEN COMPLETED. THE NOTES WILL SHOW YOU WHAT WE ARE CARRYING FORWARD FROM YEAR TO YEAR AND WHETHER THEY'VE ADDED ANY BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR. FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIFTH LINE DOWN, THE LIBRARY HVAC SYSTEM, WE HAVE 400,000 BUDGETED. CONTRACTOR 338,000.

ASKING TO CARRY THE 62,000 FORWARD FOR FUTURE AIR-CONDITIONER REPAIRS BECAUSE WE KNOW WE ONLY REPLACED HALF OF IT. THAT WILL KIND OF LAYOUT HOW THE BUDGET WILL WORK AS WE WALK THROUGH THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS. ANY QUESTIONS? FEEL FREE AS WE GO THROUGH. NOW WE WILL START LOOKING AT THE INDIVIDUAL FUNDS. REALLY PULLED OUT THE FUNDS THAT HAVE PROJECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. AS YOU KNOW, WE HAD 100+ FUNDS AT THIS POINT. WE DIDN'T LIST EVERY SINGLE FUND IN HERE.

REALLY FOCUSING ON THE FUNDS THAT HAVE PROJECTS. IF THERE WAS ANOTHER FUND YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT WE ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO TALK ABOUT IT TO THE PRESENTATION. SHERIFFS BUDGET, THERE ARE THE NUMBERS. THE ACTUALS FOR 20 -- 22-23. WRITE YOUR BUDGET AND THEN WHERE WE ARE AT PROPOSED. I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE OFF BUDGET. IF YOU DO IT WILL BE EASIER TO SPEAK TO THEM. IN GENERAL THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE CREATED A PLAN THREE YEARS AGO FOR THE MILLAGE INCREASE BACK THEN. AND WE ARE STAYING PRETTY TRUE TO THAT PLAN WE CREATED WITH HIRING THE OFFICERS. IMPLEMENT THEIR COMPENSATION STUDY LAST YEAR AND THEY ARE GOING INTO PHASE

TWO OF THAT STUDY. >> I GUESS MY QUESTION, THIS INCORPORATES NEW OFFICERS AS WELL AS PAY RAISES, STEP PLAN,

ALL OF THAT? >> I WILL DEFER TO --.

>> FOR NEXT YEAR INCLUDES THE ADDITIONAL STUFF FOR EXISTING EMPLOYEES BUT ALSO THE ADDITION OF NEW OFFICERS TO CONTINUE TO ON -- WORK ON DEPUTY AND CITIZEN RATIO. DOES THAT ANSWER

YOUR QUESTION? >> I WANT TO SEE WHAT THE INCREASE WAS. ABOUT 15% I CALCULATED ON ANOTHER SHEET.

>> OVERALL INCREASES ABOUT 7.68. WE WORK WITH TROY AND EVERYONE ON THE TEAM.

TO THE FIVE YEAR PROJECTION WITH YOU. ALTHOUGH THE REVENUE STREAMS APPEAR TO BE AT A HIGHER RATE WE ARE COMING BELOW THAT. NOW ABOUT 7.68. SO WE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WE ARE BEING CONSERVATIVE YOU TRY TO CONTINUE TO CARRY OUT INITIATIVES. THE SHERIFF HAS A REVISION FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL

YEARS. >> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU. >> NOW TRANSPORTATION TRUST FUND. THIS SUPPORTS PUBLIC WORKS PRIMARILY. REVENUE IS COMING IN HAVE INCREASED SLIGHTLY. THIS IS A DEPARTMENT WE ARE TRYING TO UP THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IN TO MAINTAIN OUR ROADS. LAST YEAR WE BUDGETED $6 MILLION TRANSFER FROM GENERAL FUND TO SUPPORT TRANSPORTATION TRUST. CURRENTLY BUDGETING $4.9 MILLION TRANSFER FROM GENERAL FUND TO SUPPORT TRANSPORTATION TRUST. THE NEXT PAGE WE WILL GO TO THE PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT OF TRANSPORTATION TRUST. I WILL NOT GO THROUGH EACH INDIVIDUAL PROJECT UNLESS YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO. THE DEPARTMENTS ARE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL PROJECT. WITH THESE OTHER PROJECTS THEY ARE ASKING FOR. I WILL POINT OUT THAT THE FOURTH BUDGET DOWN USUALLY PROPOSE ON IS A NEW PROJECT THEY ARE ASKING TO ADD TO THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR THAT WE HAVE NOT PUT INTO THE BUDGET IN THE PAST OR IF IT WAS FOR IN THE BUDGET IN THE PAST IT WAS PUT IN AS OPERATIONAL AND WE ARE MOVING IT TO A PROJECT. THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT AS YOU ARE GOING THROUGH AND LOOKING AT ANY POTENTIAL REDUCTIONS THAT MAY BE AN AREA THAT YOU START LOOKING EFFORTS, PROPOSED PROJECTS VERSUS EXISTING

ONGOING PROJECTS. >> TO KNOW HOW MANY LIGHTS

ENTAILS? >> I DO NOT

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>> RICHARD SMITH, CLAY COUNTY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. BASED ON WHAT WE PRICED EARLIER WE EXPECT AROUND 25 OF THOSE.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON TRANSPORTATION TRUST? THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE UNINCORPORATED AND STO. ENFORCEMENT, PLANNING, AND ENGINEERING. THOSE ARE THE DEPARTMENTS THAT MAKE UP THE MSTU. A SEPARATE TAXING AUTHORITY. AGAIN, THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE HAVE TO SUPPORT THIS MSTU BY DOING A TRANSFER OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. THIS YEAR IT IS ABOUT 1.2 MILLION. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE YOU SEE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN PROPOSED FOR THAT MSTU.

ANYWHERE THROUGH THE BUDGET YOU SEE 476 THAT IS ABOUT AS OPERATIONAL CAPITAL EQUIPMENT. WE KIND OF DID A PROJECT ACROSS THE WHOLE COUNTY. DIVIDED UP INTO THE DIFFERENT CALL CENTERS, THAT REPRESENTS US BUYING VEHICLES OR EQUIPMENT.

WE HAVE A DETAILED LIST. WE CAN GO LINE BY LINE IF NEEDED EITHER HERE OR OFF-LINE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT MAKES UP THAT. IN THAT CASE THE $50,000 IS ONE VEHICLE THEY ARE ASKING TO ADD. ANY QUESTIONS ON PLANNING AND ZONING? ALL RIGHT.

YOU GUYS ARE MAKING THIS EASY. ENGINEERING. SAME THING. THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THEY ARE ASKING FOR NEXT YEAR. SOME OF THEM ARE CONTINUOUS PROJECTS AND SOME OF THEM ARE

CARRYFORWARD PROJECTS. >> MAY I ASK A QUESTION? ON THE FOUR PROJECTS THAT ARE CARRYFORWARD WE JUST DIDN'T

GET TO THOSE OR? >> I ASSUME YOU ARE REFERENCING

THE FOUR BRIDGES? >> YES.

>> WE HAVE THAT MONEY AVAILABLE IN CASE OF A MAJOR STORM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT COMES THROUGH. THESE ARE WHAT WE CALL SCOUR CRITICAL BRIDGES. IF WE DO NOT HAVE TO USE IT WE DON'T.

WE CARRY IT FORWARD.I DO NOT KNOW IF WE WANT TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO BUNDLE THAT MONEY AT SOME POINT AND MAKE A MAJOR IMPROVEMENT, BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE JUST

MAINTAINING. >> OKAY. THANKS.

>> THIS WOULD BE AN AREA INSTEAD OF CARRYING FORWARD HALF 1 MILLION YOU SAY LET'S PUT A BRIDGE PROJECT AND SAY WE WILL CARRY A QUARTER OF 1 MILLION. AT WHICH POINT YOU BUNDLED TOGETHER AND I COULD REDUCE YOUR TRANSFER BY A QUARTER MILLION. THAT WOULD BE ONE THING THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED TODAY OR THAT WE BRING BACK AS WE GO TO THE GENERAL

FUND AS A WAY TO DO THAT. >> WENT FROM QUARTER MILLION TO ZERO THIS YEAR. I ASSUME WE REPLACED SOME GUARDRAILS.

>> WE'VE HAD A VERY GOOD YEAR. WE HAVE NOT HAD TO REPLACE VERY MANY GUARDRAILS. REALLY. MAYBE IT IS THE FACT WE HAVE A RISK MANAGER NOW. WE HAVE BEEN FAIRLY FORTUNATE. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN TARGETED AS MUCH AS PAST YEARS.

>> THAT. I AM SURE THERE IS INSURANCE POLICY OUT THERE TO PAY FOR IT. HE WILL FIND IT. YEAH, $10,000. IF THEY HAD

INSURANCE. THANK YOU. >> NEXT ONE IS YOU ARE BUILDING FUND. THE EXPENSES LOOK HIGH BECAUSE WE PLANNED ON BUILDING A BUILDING THIS YEAR. AS YOU KNOW WE RAN INTO SOME DELAYS.

BUT WE STILL PLAN ON GETTING IT BACK ON TRACK. WE ARE BACK ON TRACK. PUTTING SOME OF THAT MONEY THIS YEAR AND THEN OF COURSE IT WILL MOVE FORWARD NEXT YEAR FOR US TO SPEND. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHERE THAT BUILDING HAS PLAYED OUT IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR.

ANY QUESTIONS ON BUILDING DEPARTMENT?

>> EVERYBODY OKAY? >> NEXT ONE IS SOLID WASTE.

COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL COMBINED. YOU NOTICE TWO FUNDS.

IN OUR BUDGET WE COMBINE IT INTO ONE FOR THE PURPOSES OF

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>> I'VE GOT YOU. >> NEXT PAGE IS TERRORISM. WE DID COMBINE THE FUNDS HERE. AGAIN, RESERVES, CARRYING FORWARD. IT IS A LITTLE MISLEADING POTENTIALLY BECAUSE WE BUDGETED FOR THE RESERVES WE THINK WILL BE THERE BASED ON EXPENSES BUT WE HAVE NOT MOVED THE EXPENSES FORWARD UNTIL NEXT YEAR SO RESERVES ARE PROBABLY $1 MILLION OFF OF THIS. NEXT PAGE SHOWS THE PROJECTS ANTICIPATED FOR NEXT YEAR. IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS WE WILL GO TO THE NEXT PAGE FOR THE

FACILITY FUND. >> WERE ARE MONUMENTS ON HERE?

>> WHERE DO YOU LIVE? >>

>> THE MONUMENT SIGN IS THE WELCOME TO CLAY COUNTY SIGNS.

WE HAVE TWO OF THEM. WE'VE GIVEN YOU A LIST SO THAT WE CAN PRIORITIZE THE REMAINING SIGNS. WE WILL CIRCLE BACK WITH YOU ON WHERE THOSE SIGNS WILL BE LOCATED. WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO WORK WITH D.O.T. AND RICHARD ON GETTING THOSE PERMITTED. BUT THE MONEY IS IN THE BUDGET TO DO AT LEAST PROBABLY SIX MORE

SIGNS. >> SIX. THAT WAS REALLY MY

QUESTION. >> THANK YOU. COURT FACILITY FUND. WE REALLY NARROWED THIS FUND IT DOWN FOR EXPENSES NEXT YEAR PRIMARILY DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE ARE DOING JUDICIAL MASTER PLAN AND THE RESULTS OF THE JUDICIAL MASTER PLAN WILL GIVE US THE GUIDE FOR WHAT WE WANT TO DO CONSTRUCTION WISE IN THE FUTURE. YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF PROJECTS ON THE NEXT PAGE.

WHAT WE ARE DOING IS MINIMIZING DOWN THE EXPENSES OVER THERE OTHER THAN GENERAL MAINTENANCE UNTIL THE COURTHOUSE FACILITY

PLAN COMES BACK. >> WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS INSIDE THE COURTHOUSE INCLUDING THE CLERK AS ONE OF THEM. CHIEF JUDGE LANDS A DAY AND HIS TERM -- TEAM, EVERYONE IS ON BOARD TO UNDERSTAND WE ARE IN A LITTLE BIT OF A HOLD HERE SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS PLAN BACK AND MOVE FORWARD ON WHAT IT RECOMMENDS.

>> I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE THIS WAS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS TO KIND OF SLOW THE RENOVATION REFURBISHMENT DOWN SO WE KNOW

EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE HEADED. >> FIRE MSTU IS LEFT. 20% OF THE FUNDS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COME OUT OF A DEDICATED REVENUE FOR THE MSTU. THE OTHER 25% WHICH IS RESCUE SERVICE AS WE CALL IT COMES OUT OF YOUR GENERAL FUND. WHATEVER YOU SEE HERE IS REFLECTIVE OF 25% OF THE COST OF THE OVERALL FUNCTION. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE ABOUT $2.8 MILLION TRANSFER IN PLAN FOR THIS YEAR TO SUPPORT THE MSTU OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. THESE ARE THE PROJECTS. I THINK TWO PAGES. I DID PUT ON TOP OF THIS THAT ON THE PROJECT SIDE I COMBINE THE COST OF THE GENERAL FUND SO YOU CAN SEE THE ENTIRE PROJECT COST

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>> I WOULD JUST ASK TO THE FIRE CHIEFS, THE SECOND SON -- SENT A BUNKER GEAR WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS IT IS NOW I CARRY FORWARD AGAIN TO $4 MILLION. I THOUGHT WE WERE MOVING FORWARD? I THOUGHT WHEN COMMISSIONER BURKE ASKED IN MAY WE WERE MOVING FORWARD.

>> PART OF THE CONCERN AT THIS POINT IS WE WERE STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE SELECTIONS ON THE GEAR. ONE OF THE CONCERNS RAISED BY THE BARGAINING UNIT WAS THE P FOSS CONTAINED IN SOME PIECES TO ENSURE THE FLAMMABILITY REDUCTION ON THE GEAR. WE ARE WORKING WITH HIM TO IDENTIFY SETS THAT HAVE THE LOWEST AMOUNT OF PFAS IN THE GEAR BUT STILL PROVIDES PROTECTION. THAT IS WHY IT HAS BEEN SLOWER THAN

WE'D LIKE OTHERWISE. >> OKAY. ALL OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS, THEY HAVE ONE SET?

>> THIS WAS PROVIDE THE SECOND SETS OF THEY ARE OPERATING ON THE SCENE WE CAN BAG THE EXISTING SET, TAKE IT BACK TO STATION LOCATIONS, RUNNING THROUGH THE EXTRACTION PROCESS TO CLEAN IT AND STILL ALLOW THE APPROPRIATE DRYING TIME AND GIVE THEM A SET OF GEAR THEY CAN GO RIGHT IN AND CONTINUE TO

OPERATE. >> CONCERNING PFAS , SPOKEN TO ABOUT RED ZONE,

>> THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES AND LITERALLY AS LATE AS SATURDAY I WAS TALKING TO VENDORS OF THE FIRE CHIEF CONFERENCE. TRYING TO GET A BETTER VISION AS TO WHERE THEY ARE GOING. I THINK VENDORS ARE STRUGGLING WITH THAT LITTLE BIT TOO TO ENSURE THEY CAN PROVIDE US WITH A SET THAT MEETS THE NEW SPECIFICATIONS. IT HAS TO BOTH PROVIDE PROTECTION AND REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF POTENTIAL CONTAMINATION IN THE GEAR AS IT IS WASHED AND CLEANED AND WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS. EVERY VENDOR I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT TO FIND OUT WHERE THE NEW BENCHMARK WILL BE.

>> WHILE YOU ARE THERE -- I WAS AT STATION 14 LAST NIGHT AND IT SAID PARKING LOT PAVING IS IN PROGRESS.

>> IT IS IN PHYSICALLY STARTED. IT IS IN THE CONTRACTING PHASE TO ALLOW THEM TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN COMPLETE IT WITHIN THE FISCAL YEAR. IT HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN A PROBLEM. I THINK THIS HAS BEEN FOR THE 15 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE A TARGET POINT WE WANT TO GET TO AND PROBABLY CLOSER THAN WE'VE BEEN.'S . WHEN I SAY IN PROGRESS, JUST TO CLARIFY, IF WE STARTED THE DESIGN WORK OR ANYTHING LISETTE IS IN PROGRESS BECAUSE SOME KIND OF EFFORT INTO IT IS NOT JUST A CONCEPT SO I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT CLARIFYING EARLIER.

>> I DO NOT KNOW IF I HEARD, HE WHEN YOU SUSPECT THE GEAR ?

>> WE'RE HOPING BEFORE THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, BUT THAT IS THE REASON WE ARE LOOKING, THE POINT OF GOING INTO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. WHERE WE SIT RIGHT NOW ON THE FISCAL YEAR WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PROCURE AND GET DELIVERY AND PUT IT OUT UNTIL NEXT FISCAL YEAR. THAT IS WHY.

>> SHEDS. I'VE HEARD THAT WHERE THEY ARE STORING THEIR GEAR IS

PROBABLY NOT THE GREATEST. >> TRYING TO GET IT OUT OF THE PHYSICAL LOCATION IN THE ÚBUILDING. FOR THE NEW STATIONS WE ARE CONSTRUCTING WE WILL BE ABLE TO ISOLATE THE GEAR AND PROVIDE A PROTECTED AREA WHERE THE GEAR CAN BE CLEANED, DRIED, PUT BACK INTO SERVICE OVER TIME. FOR THE EXISTING GEAR

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APPARATUS. >> THAT WAS ON THE BUDGET LAST YEAR SO WE ARE THINKING THIS YEAR --

>> YES, MA'AM. >> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU. >> NEXT IS IMPROVEMENT FUND.

REVENUE INCREASING SLIGHTLY. THIS ONE HAS A PRETTY EXTENSIVE RESERVE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ACTIVELY SPENDING THE FUNDS. TWO PROJECTS PROPOSED NEXT YEAR AND WE STILL HAVE ABOUT $1 MILLION IN A PLACEHOLDER SIGN UP FOR THE PROJECTS. ANY QUESTIONS? NEXT SLIDE. THE GENERAL FUND. THIS IS PROBABLY WHERE WE SPEND THE BULK OF OUR TIME. CURRENTLY REVENUE COMING IN ABOUT DENNIS -- EXPENSES ABOUT 136 MILLION WITH ABOUT 7 MILLION BEING TRANSFERRED OUT TO THE MSTU WE TALKED ABOUT ALREADY . LEAVES US A RESERVE ABOUT $12 MILLION.

THE BUDGET CURRENTLY IS BALANCED. HOWEVER, RESERVE SHOULD BE ONLY 16.7% BASED ON GF OA. CURRENTLY WE ARE ABOUT 9%. MOST OF YOU KNOW WE STARTED A LITTLE FURTHER OFF AND WE HAVE SLOWLY INCHED UP. AS OF LAST NIGHT ACTUALLY PRODUCING THE SHEET FOR YOU THIS MORNING THAT CLOSE THAT GAP A LITTLE BIT MORE. THE 12.2 NUMBER IS AS OF 7:00 LAST NIGHT. SO WE DO NEED TO FIND ABOUT ANOTHER $10 MILLION OF EITHER REDUCTIONS IN THE BUDGET OR REVENUE. WE KNOW ESTIMATES HAVEN'T COME IN YET.

I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF INCREASE OF WHAT WE'VE PROJECTED. PROJECTED CONSERVATIVE AT LEAST FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT. I WOULD NOT EXPECT $10 MILLION MORE REVENUE COMING IN. THE QUESTION TODAY AS WE GO THROUGH THE DEPARTMENTS REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT PROJECTS WE CAN DEFER TO FUTURE YEARS, WHAT PROJECTS MAY BE THE SCOPE CAN BE REDUCED.

YOU WILL SEE WHERE I'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THAT WHERE WE HAVE DONE THAT AND STAFF. WE'LL TALK ABOUT FTE AND WHAT WE'VE DONE THERE. $10 MILLION IS ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO FIND OVER TIME. WE ARE NOT IN A HORRIBLE SPOT BY ANY STRETCH.

DEPARTMENTS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB TRIMMING BACK. BUT THAT IS OUR GOAL. THAT IS WHAT WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR TODAY AS WE GO THROUGH THESE PROJECTS. TO SAY, HEY, ARE THERE THINGS YOU AS A BIRD FEEL WE CAN DEFER A YEAR OR TWO TO MAKE IT MORE

PALATABLE FOR THE BUDGET. >> EXPECTS MORE REVENUE, BUT JUST EVERYONE KNOWS WE CAN'T JUST ASSUME THAT.

>> THE BOARD POLICIES SINCE I'VE BEEN HAS BEEN TO GO WITH WHAT DOR ESTIMATES, NOT TO DO OUR OWN. BECAUSE THERE ARE EXPERTS IN TALLAHASSEE WITH ALL OF THE ECONOMISTS WE DEPEND ON TO GIVE US OUR ESTIMATES. HAS TO GIVE AN ESTIMATE TO GET TO THIS POINT BECAUSE DOR DOES NOT RELEASE HER NUMBERS UNTIL JULY, EARLY AUGUST. WE ARE AT THAT POINT, BUT I CANNOT WAIT FOR THEM TO COME OUT. WE HAVE TO DO OUR OWN INTERNAL ESTIMATES. WE THINK WE WILL GET A LITTLE BIT, YES, BUT I DO NOT THINK WE WILL GET 10 MILLION. WE MAY GET AN EXTRA MILLION ACROSS ALL

FUNDING STREAMS. >> EDUCATED GUESSES WITH

CONVERSATIONS? >> JUST EDUCATED GUESS BASED ON HISTORY WITH THE OH ARE AND HOW WE PROJECT INTERNALLY VERSUS WHAT USUALLY COMES OUT WITH DOR. WE CAN BE SPOT ON AND SEE NO EXTRA REVENUE. THEN WE CAN HAVE A HAPPENED TWO YEARS AGO WHERE THEY UNDER PROJECTED BY SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS AND THEN WHEN WE CAME BACK IN NOVEMBER WE GOT TO SAY WILL

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REVIEWED ALL THE PROJECTS AND MADE SOME DECISIONS BASED ON DEPARTMENTS TO DELAY PROJECTS TO FUTURE YEARS VERSUS THE NICE TO HAVE VERSUS NEED TO HAVE. ALREADY DONE FIRST BRUSH AT THE DEPARTMENT LEVEL. LOOKING AT ALL CALL CENTERS AND HISTORICAL TRENDS AND ADJUSTING OPERATING DOWN. WE TOLD YOU IN MARCH, WE DID A 5% OPERATING INCREASE. GONE BACK AND LOOKED AT THE AND MADE SURE THAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO THAT FIVE PERCENT. MANY WE REALLY DO BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT OPERATING WITHIN THE BUDGET. DOWN TO HISTORICAL SPENDS, PLUS OR MINUS. REQUEST FOR ALL NEW POSITIONS AND ADJUSTED ACCORDINGLY. TALK WITH THAT AS WE GO THROUGH. SOME PROJECTS GOT REDUCED IN SCOPE SO MAY HAVE SAID WE WANTED 20 OF SOMETHING AND INSTEAD TALKED TO THE DEPARTMENT AND WE CAN GET BY WITH 15 THIS YEAR. THAT IS WHAT WE'VE INTERNALLY DONE WITH THE DEPARTMENTS. THIS HAS BEEN VERY ITERATIVE PROCESS THIS YEAR. THE NEXT STEPS, FURTHER REVIEW THE PROJECTS TODAY, GUIDANCE FROM ALL OF YOU ON WHAT PROJECTS WE CAN HOLD OUT ON. WE WILL ADJUST REVENUES WHEN WE GET THEM FROM DOR. WE WILL CONTINUE LOOKING OPERATING BUDGETS AND EFFICIENCIES AND SEE IF THERE IS ANYPLACE WE CAN FURTHER ADJUST THOSE DOWN. THEN WE WILL CONSULT THE CONSTITUTIONAL'S AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY PLACE WHERE THEY CAN ADJUST DOWN A LITTLE BIT. WE WILL GO BASED ON DEPARTMENTS IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER. KNOTS BUT ONE IN FRONT OF THE OTHER.

DEPARTMENT HEADS AND STAFF ARE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON SPECIFIC PROJECTS. FIRST ONE IS BUILDING MAINTENANCE. I THINK BUILDING MAINTENANCE HAS TWO PAGES. I WILL LET YOU GUYS READ THROUGH THE PROJECTS AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS -- IS HERE

TO ADDRESS IT. >> MAYBE COULD HELP US. THE FIRST TWO ENTRIES THERE, OFFER . IT SAYS FUNDED PARTIALLY. HOW DO WE MAKE THAT DETERMINATION OF WHO SPENDS WHAT?

>> BRING IT TO THE BOARD IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THE NUMBERS WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET ARE PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE ARE GOING TO SIT FROM A COUNTY PERSPECTIVE. SHE IS BRINGING THROUGH HER STATE BUDGET SHE WILL APPROPRIATE THAT MONEY THROUGH THE STATE BUDGET. IT WILL MEAN IN FUTURE YEARS A REVISION FROM HER, BUT IT ALLOWS HER TO EARMARK THAT MONEY WERE BASICALLY SHE WILL PAY THE COUNTY OUT OF HER MONEY BEFORE SHE REVERTS -- THAT IS HOW OTHER COUNTIES HAVE BEEN APPROACHING THIS SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DIRECTLY FUNDED OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET.

INAUDIBLE ] >> PUTTING MONEY UP FOR HER AND SHE WILL PAY US BACK OUT OF REVENUES?

>> WE ARE PAYING FOR DESIGN RIGHT NOW. WE WILL PAY FOR PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION THEN SHE WILL PAY US INSTEAD OF REVERTING THE MONEY BACK. BASICALLY WE WILL INVOICE HER FOR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THIS YEAR AND WHATEVER NEXT YEAR. THIS IS ACTUALLY THE WAY STATE RECOMMENDED IT BE DONE.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. IN THE LAST PROJECT OPERATIONAL CAPITAL EQUIPMENT THEY'VE BEEN SPENDING HALF OF WHAT THEY ARE BUDGETING FOR NEXT YEAR.

>> WE CAN PULL THE LIST OF DASHES

>> $100,000 IS INSIGNIFICANT, BUT $100,000 -- THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT -- THE OTHER THING THAT OCCURS TO ME

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>> PARKING IS AT A PREMIUM. OBVIOUSLY. THIS IS PART OF THE PLAN TO GET IT DEMOED. AGAIN, I THINK ANYTHING UNDER THE NOTES VERSUS PROPOSE TO SOMETHING BRAND-NEW AND IT COULD BE MAKE A SPECIAL NOTE ON THIS IF YOU WANTED TO THE LAITY YEAR.

THE QUALITY OF THE BUILDING IS RIGHT AT AVERAGE IF NOT BELOW AVERAGE. THE MOVIE NOW IS MOVING OUT IN TIME. THE BUILDING NEXT TO IT, THAT IS NOT USABLE AT ALL. AGAIN, THE DEMO OF IT IS TO CAPITALIZE ON THAT PROPERTY TO HELP OUT. WITH THE COURT SYSTEM AND PEOPLE COMING TO VISIT HERE. SO WE CAN START. WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

>> TO BE HAVE THE MONEY FOR THE PARKING LOT?

>> WE WOULD PROGRAM THE MONEY FOR THE PARKING LOT IN AT A FUTURE TIME. WE COULD PUSH THIS TO WRITE WHEN WE GET THAT.

>> TO A BANK TO YOUR VEHICLE QUESTION OR EQUIPMENT QUESTION, THEY ARE ASKING FOR TWO REPLACEMENT F-250S AND A NEW FAN. VM -- THE TWO VEHICLES THAT MAKE UP THAT 300,000.

>> WE HAD BUDGETED FOR A LEFT LAST YEAR. WE WERE NOT ABLE TO GET THAT LIVED LAST YEAR. WE WERE ASKED NOT TO SPEND IT PLUS THE PRICE WENT UP. THAT IS WHY YOU SEE THAT DIFFERENCE THERE.

>> THE LIFT HAS ALREADY BEEN REMOVED OUT OF THIS NUMBER. THE 215 IS WITH THE LIFT ALREADY REMOVED BECAUSE THAT WAS ALREADY DISCUSSED. I APOLOGIZE. THE 215 WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE BUDGET IS THE THREE VEHICLES.

>> DORMANT TALKING TRANSPORT PEOPLE TO THE PROJECT, CORRECT?

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT VEHICLES ARE FOR.

>>

RIGHT? >> I DON'T NECESSARILY FEEL COMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO GO THROUGH AND NITPICK DO YOU REALLY NEED TWO VEHICLES -- TWO TRUCKS AND OF EMPHASIS ONE TRUCK AND A VAN, BUT SINCE WE HAVE TO FIND $10 MILLION

SOMEWHERE. >> IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO QUESTION ABOUT WE CAN TAKE BACK. THAT IS AN AREA YOU WANT US TO LOOK AT WE CAN MOST CERTAINLY GO BACK, -- KYLE IS THE FLEET MANAGER SO HE CAN TELL YOU THOSE VEHICLES ARE 180,000 MILES AND, YEAH, YOU'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY THAN THE WORDS THEY NEED TO REPLACE THEM. THAT IS WHERE WE RELY ON HIS EXPERTISE TO HELP US LITTLE THAT LIST.

>> BACK TO --. THAT WILL BE PART OF THE JUDICIAL REVIEW. WE WILL NOT RENOVATE BUILDINGS UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT THE STUDY WILL TELL US. AND THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY WILL BE PART OF THE STUDY I WOULD GUESS. DO YOU WANT RECOMMENDATIONS NOW?

>> WE WILL COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND LET YOU KNOW HOW HE

WHITTLED THE REST OF THE WAY. >> START AND TAKE A LOOK.

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>> YES SIR. >> I WOULD ALSO THINK IT DEPENDS ON SOMEBODY IN BUILDING MAINTENANCE TO TELL US WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO MAINTAIN THE BUILDING JUST IN TERMS OF AN EXISTING. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OVER THERE IT IS NOT A PRETTY SIGHT. CONSEQUENTLY $50,000 FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT TAKING IT DOWN AND LEAVING IT EVEN IF WE DO NOT IMPROVE THE SITE IT WILL BE TAKEN DOWN AT SOME POINT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. WE WILL NOT IMPROVE OUR BUILDING. WHETHER YOU TAKE IT DOWN THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR I DON'T THINK IT REALLY MATTERS IN TERMS OF THE COURT PLAN, BUT CERTAINLY MATTERS IN TERMS OF THE COUNTY SETTING A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE BUILDING IS FALLING APART WE NEED TO GET RID OF IT RATHER THAN SEND CODE ENFORCEMENT OUT TO DO THE SAME THING TO OTHER PEOPLE IN WE -- SO I WOULD THINK FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY, THE 50,000, WE MIGHT EVEN BE ABLE TO GET IT DONE FOR LESS TO SEND THE CHIEFS FOLKS IN THERE AND LET THEM HACK IT UP AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO IT.

>> MY UNDERSTANDING FROM SOCIAL MEDIA IS THE CODE ENFORCEMENT

OFFICER IS PRETTY ZEALOUS. >> WE DO NOT WANT TO CROSS THE PATH THERE. THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS ON IS THE CLAY COUNTY ARCHIVES RENOVATION. THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD AND TURN IN TERMS OF THEIR COMPLAINTS OF WATER INTRUSION OR IS THAT A DIFFERENT SITUATION?

>> I THINK THIS WAS A PROJECT PUT INTO START LOOKING AT DOING STUFF OVER THERE. ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR GRANTS FOR THE ARCHIVES. I WILL SAY THAT IS AN AREA WHERE BUILDING MAINTENANCE ASKED FOR 250,000 ON THAT LINING HIM AND WE REDUCED IT TO 125 AS KIND OF A MIDDLE PATH.

IT. >> I WANT TO REVERT BACK TO THE WAY FAIR PARKING FIRST. THE NEW BUILDING STARTED SHORTLY NEXT TO US. THE NORTHERN PART OF THE PARKING AREAS ONLY UP TO THE COURTHOUSE. HAVING THAT DONE I THINK WOULD BE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT TO HAVE IT DONE EARLY. THE ARCHIVES, WE WENT ON A TOUR WITH STAFF AND THE CLERK. THAT MONEY WE TOOK IT DOWN TO 100,000 TO COVER LEAKAGE IN THE ROOFS AND HIS

POTENTIAL ASBESTOS ABATEMENT. >> THAT IS BEEN SOMETHING THEY'VE ASKED FOR FOR A WHILE AND HAVE CORRECTED SO AS LONG AS WE ARE TAKING CARE OF THAT WATER INTRUSION BECAUSE --

>> THAT IS THE PRIORITY. THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER THINGS ON THE LIST. MAKING A PERMANENT FIX TO THE ROOF OR FIXING THE ROOF IS

WHAT WE HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES. IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT SECTIONS. THERE WAS A LONGER LIST OF ITEMS ASKED TO IMPROVE. WE REMOVED PRESSURE WASHING AT GREEN COVE. THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT THEY FEEL IN FACILITIES AND IN TALKING TO FACILITIES WERE THE PRIMARY PROJECTS. I KNOW THERE WAS ONE MISSING OFF OF HERE WHICH IS THE ORANGE PARK PARKING LOT.

PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE IS ABOUT $350,000 SO WE ARE PURSUING WORKING WITH STATE ELDER AFFAIRS ON HOPEFULLY A GRANT FROM THE TO DO THE ORANGE PARK PARKING LOT BUT IT IS NOT ON THE LIST CURRENTLY. JUST BRING THE PAVING AND BRING THE PAVING INTO COMPLIANCE AND DO THE ROOTS AND EVERYTHING WAS ABOUT A $350,000 ASH IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. THAT WAS EXCLUSIVE OF LIGHTS. MOVED TO COMMUNITY SERVICE PROJECTS. ORANGE PARK FOUNTAIN UPGRADE. WHAT IS THAT?

>> THAT IS WATER FOUNTAINS IN THE BUILDING. WE PROBABLY NEED TO CHANGE THAT TO SAY WATER FOUNTAINS.

>> DRINKING FOUNTAINS. SUE MCMANUS PAGES COMMUNITY

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>> CAN YOU CLARIFY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IN PROGRESS

AND ONGOING? >> ONGOING IS EVERY YEAR. -- IS A CONTINUOUS PROGRAM WE DO EVERY YEAR. KIND OF DIFFERENTIATE OUT OF SOMETHING THAT COUNTY HAS FUNDED EVERY EFFORT IS A CONTINUING PROJECT. NEXT PAGE IS YOUR NONPROFIT FUNDING. ADDED EXEMPTIONS AND SUBSIDIES ON HERE FOR VISIBILITY. REQUIRED FUNDING WE GIVE EVERY YEAR TO -- DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THOSE TWO ENTITIES, BUT THOSE TWO FUNCTIONS. DISCRETIONARY FUNDING EVERYTHING YOU ARE GIVING TO NONPROFITS OUTSIDE OF THE REQUIRED ONES. THE 160 3000 WE TALKED ABOUT EXTENSIVELY. THE EXEMPTIONS, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT GOING UP WITH THE INCREASE IN THE ASSESSMENT AND MORE PEOPLE ASKING FOR IT. SUBSIDIES ARE MOBILITY FEES CURRENTLY .

THE COUNTY HAS TO PAY TO MAKE UP FOR THE SUBSIDIES IN THOSE AREAS. CAN I ASK YOU TO GO BACK ON MOBILITY FEES? IS THAT A NUMBER THAT WE DECIDED TO PUT ON A FIXED NUMBER EVERY YEAR OR SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE NEED TO PAY THE SUBSIDIES?

>> WE BUDGET FOR 50 EACH YEAR. THAT NUMBER COULD VARY BECAUSE -- I DO NOT REMEMBER WHICH AREAS THEY ARE IN. IF YOU HAVE 10 RESTAURANTS COME IN THERE'S NOTHING IN CLEAR PROVISIONS ONSET IT IS CAPPED AT 400,000 800,000. EVERYBODY THAT QUALIFIES FOR THE SUBSIDY GETS IT. SO THIS IS JUST A NUMBER WE PUT IN. SOME YEARS IT'S RAN 800,000, OTHER YEARS 200,000.

>> THAT WAS A FAMOUS DISCUSSION FROM A PREVIOUS SUBMISSION ABOUT SITDOWN RESTAURANTS VERSUS FAST FOOD. RIGHT? WE MIRRORED THAT LIST OF WHO COULD GET THOSE EXEMPTIONS. THAT

MAKES SENSE. >> I'M ASSUMING YOU HAVE NEW MOBILITY STUDY UNDERWAY. I'M ASSUMING WHEN THAT COMES OUT THIS WILL BE A POINT OF CONVERSATION AT THAT POINT IN

TIME >> THANK YOU. NEXT ONE IS MORE FOR VISIBILITY. THESE ARE CONTRACTUAL Z CAN'T REALLY ADJUST THINGS. BUT JUST YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLANS OF HOW MUCH YOU'RE PAYING OUT THIS YEAR ON THOSE GRANTS YOU'VE GIVEN FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

>> THEY ARE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH IT.

>> EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. UNLESS YOU HAVE A QUESTION?

>> MOBILITY, BUT AFTER THAT THEY WILL HAVE AN ONGOING TAX.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT JUST LIKE THE REST.

>>

MANAGEMENT. >> AND ASKED A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THAT? WHAT IS THE OVERHANG AND ON OUR PLANS REWRITE AND UPDATE, IS THAT SOMETHING THE REGIONAL COUNCIL COULD DO FOR

US? OR HELP WITH? >> I MISS THE SECOND PART OF

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THE QUESTION. >> FIRST WAS ON THE OVERHANG.

>> LEFT OVER FROM LAST YEAR. SUPPOSED TO COVER THE PARKING AREA. THE TRAILERS AND SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT MUST DAY OUTSIDE DO TO A LACK OF STORAGE FACILITIES IN THE AREA. JUST A WAY TO CONSERVE THE EQUIPMENT IS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE.

>> SO IT IS NOT PARKING FOR THE EMPLOYEES THERE? IT IS COVERING

THE EQUIPMENT? >> IT IS DEFINITELY FOR THE EQUIPMENT. WE HAVE ABOUT SIX TRAILERS , BOATS, TWO

GENERATORS. >> OKAY. ON THE PLAN REWRITE MY QUESTION WAS IS ON SOMETHING THAT THE REGIONAL COUNCIL COULD

HELP US WITH FOR LESS MONEY? >> ABSOLUTELY. OUR INITIAL ASSESSMENT IS THAT IS A VERY LUCRATIVE BUSINESS SO THAT IS A VERY CONSERVATIVE NUMBER OFF OF WHAT WE REQUIRE TO BECOME CERTIFIED FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT INCREASE OF 5% IS OUR GOAL WHAT IS THE GOAL OF THE PROGRAM. 64 PLANS IN TOTAL REQUIRE AN UPDATE AND REWRITE TO GET TO THAT POINT. INITIAL ASSESSMENT -- BASED ON SMALL, MEDIUM LARGE. 20 PAGE PLAN TO HUNDREDS OF PAGES PLANS AND RANGE FROM 18 TO $56,000 APIECE. PACIFIC TO YOUR QUESTION, THAT ISN'T WHERE WE'VE GONE YOU AS FAR AS INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL. THEY DID RIGHT OR HELP WRITE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE STATE REQUIREMENT. UP FOR THAT IN 2026. IN TALKS WITH THEM. THAT IS OUR STARTING POINT AS A BASELINE DOCUMENT. EVERY SUBSEQUENT REQUIREMENT FROM THEREON WOULD BE WHAT WE WOULD USE THE HUNDRED THOUSAND

TOWARDS. >> I'M REALLY STRUGGLING WITH THIS WILL NOT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT GOOD EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLANS, BUT BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE I SPENT MY CAREER AND I WROTE MY OWN PLANS FOR FREE. IT WAS JUST PART OF MY JOB. SO I GUESS I FEEL LIKE I STRUGGLE WITH -- AND IT IS NOT JUST YOURS. THE COUNTY MANAGER AND I HAD A CONVERSATION YESTERDAY.

WE ARE PAYING FOR A LOT OF DADDIES AND A LOT OF PLANS TO BE DEVELOPED. THESE KINDS OF THINGS. AND I QUESTION AS A TAXPAYER THEN WHAT ARE THE EMPLOYEES DOING ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. IF YOU NEED TO DO THIS AND THERE IS SOMETHING STATUTORILY THAT IS CHANGED. I KNOW THIS DATE HAS BEEN REALLY FOCUSED ON EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IN THE PAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND MEET SOME REQUIREMENTS FOR EMERGENCY MANAGERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO NOT TO POKE PARTICULARLY AT YOURS, BUT I GUESS KIND OF FOR ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS DOING THESE MASTER PLANS AND -- WE ARE PAYING A LOT OF MONEY TO GET PAPER. I KNOW IN SOME CASES THAT IS REQUIRED TO THEN GET GRANDSON THINGS AND THEN PROJECTS READY TO GO COMPLETELY ON BOARD WITH THAT. BUT JUST MAKING SURE THAT ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS THERE ARE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE PAID TO DO THE WORK THAT THEN HAS TO BE IMPLEMENTED. BECAUSE IF YOU COULD PAY FOR A COMPANY TO WRITE A VERY INTRICATE PLAN THEN WE DO NOT HAVE THE STAFF

TO IMPLEMENT IT. >> IF IT WAS JUST THE PLAN WRITING ITSELF 100% AGREE. WE ARE A SHOP OF FOUR. WE ARE UNDERSTAFFED BY FIVE BASED ON THE OTHER COUNTIES COMPARABLE TO OURS. AS YOU WILL KNOW WE ALWAYS DO MORE WITH LESS. LESS PEOPLE, MONEY, TIME. THE PLAN WRITING ITSELF AS A STARTING POINT. IT ESTABLISHES LEFT AND RIGHT LIMITS THAT WILL FALL BACK ON THE STAFF IS THE INTENT OVERALL. IF IT WAS JUST PUTTING WORDS ON PAPER WITHOUT ANY SUBSTANCE OVERSIGHT OR INPUT FROM THE TEAM AS A WHOLE, YES, IT WOULD BE PRETTY EASY TO SIT DOWN AND KNOCK THOSE OUT, BUT ONE PLAN OVERALL COULD TAKE SIX, EIGHT MONTHS OF ORDINATION AND OVERSIGHT. THAT IS WHAT THIS CONTRACTOR WOULD DO. NOT ONLY TO PUT PEN TO PAPER, BUT ALSO MANAGEMENT OVERSIGHT PIECES. COORDINATE MEETINGS, ANY SORT OF CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS PLAN. CURRENTLY OUR PLAN IS TO GO TO REQUIRE A HEAVY LIFT AND MAJOR MUSCLE FROM ALL PEOPLE INVOLVED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. NOT JUST EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SO IT REQUIRES THE INPUT OF THOSE PEOPLE AS WELL. EVERYBODY FROM

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MONTHS. >> OKAY. THANKS.

>> WE WILL TAKE EVERY RESOURCE OUT THERE. WE HAVE A GOOD STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH THE REGIONAL COUNCIL AND WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT TO SEE HOW WE COULD AUGMENT IT WITH SOME SORT

OF COST SAVINGS. >> MIXED HIS FLEET AND FUEL. NO QUESTIONS ON THAT. NEXT ONE IS GROUNDS MAINTENANCE. THIS IS THE ONE WHERE WE TALKED EARLIER WHEN YOU ASKED ABOUT -- HERE'S EXAMPLE OF THREE PROJECTS THAT WALLY HAVE SOME TO DO THE PROJECTS IF WE HAVE A CONSCIENCE URGENCY WHERE THERE IS TREE TRIMMING WE CAN TO REMOVAL WE PUT PROJECTS IN THEIR TO ALLOW FOR THAT CONTINGENCY.

>> I WAS THINKING $400,000 IN OPERATIONAL EQUIPMENT AND WE'VE BEEN SPENDING $135,000 IS ALARMING. IF THIS IS THE REGIONAL PARK ONE THAT WAS PROPOSED -- OKAY.

>> MORNING. PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR. FOR YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE OPERATION EQUIPMENT, THESE WERE VEHICLES. THIS FISCAL YEAR WE PURCHASED A VEHICLE FOR THE GROUNDS MAINTENANCE CREW AS WELL AS A VEHICLE FOR THE NEW SUPERVISOR.

SO THIS ISN'T DAY-TO-DAY OPERATION EQUIPMENT. THAT WAS PROJECT SPECIFIC FOR VEHICLES FOR STAFF. AS FAR AS A LINE ITEM FOR 517 K, NEXT YEAR THAT IS THE PLACEMENT OF 11 MOWERS AND MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT THAT EITHER HAD DISCONTINUED PARTS OR WORN OUT AND ARE NOT OPERATING CORRECTLY. SO TO REPLACE THOSE MOWERS THAT IS AT 517 K+. REPLACEMENT OF FOUR TRUCKS THAT ARE 10 TO 16 YEARS OLD. AGAIN, THOSE VEHICLES HAVE VARIOUS MECHANICAL ISSUES THAT PREVENT STAFF FROM OPERATING IN THOSE VEHICLES CONTINUOUSLY NEED TO GO INTO THE SHOPS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I HAVE WITH ME THE GROUNDS MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT EQUIPMENT AND HOW IT OPERATES.

>> THE FOR VEHICLES AND HOW MANY MOWERS?

>> FOUR TRUCKS, 11 MOWERS THAT ARE BETWEEN THE AGES OF 10, 16

YEARS. >> CURRENTLY IN THE BUDGET FOUR TRUCKS , FOUR REPLACEMENT VEHICLES. NEW FORD MAVERICK.

TWO ROTARY CUTTERS, SIX PRO TURN MOTORS WHICH WE CUT TO FOUR. CUT THAT TO FOUR INSTEAD OF SIX.

FOUR REPLACEMENT VEHICLES. TWO ROTARY CUTTERS, FOUR PRO TERMS. BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS IF YOU LIKE.

>>

THAT VEHICLE YESTERDAY. >> GROUND MAINTENANCE SUPERINTENDENT. THE MAVERICK IS A SMALLER VEHICLE FOR CUSTODIAN START. SOME ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE FULL-SIZE TRUCK. SODA SMALLER AND MORE MANEUVERABLE. AROUND CLEAN RESTROOMS.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. THE MAC THIS IS THE UPDATED FIGURE AFTER WE MADE CUTS LAST NIGHT.

>> THANK YOU. FOR EXAMPLE, THE ROTARY CUTTERS ARE 60,000

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TO KNOW ABOUT. >> SOME OF THE STUFF IS WE'RE LOOKING THREW A, BEEN IN PLACE FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS. KIND OF TRANSITIONING. DIDN'T GET SOME OF THE TURN MOTORS BUT IN LAST YEAR THAT WE WANTED. TRYING TO KEEP COSTS TO A MINIMUM.

INCREASE OF STAFF. TRYING TO INCREASE QUALITY OF PRODUCT PUTTING OUT WHICH IS WHY PUT IN FOR SIX ROTARY MOTORS. THE $2000 ONES ARE BUSH DOGS. -- 10 YEARS OLD WITH A FIVE YEAR LIFESPAN. MOWERS CENTER NINE YEARS OLD WITH A FIVE YEAR LIFESPAN. SPENDING A LOT OF TIME PUTTING MAINTENANCE INTO THESE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT ANYTHING ELSE SPECIFIC?

RECENTLY ACQUIRED -- FROM >> AND THOSE ARE WOODED AREAS, ESPECIALLY THE BLACK SECRET AREA. THAT ALLOWS US TO MAINTAIN THAT ON A FREQUENT LEVEL TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN AND KEEP THAT BRUSH DOWN BECAUSE THEY ARE UNDEVELOPED PARK AREAS THAT DO NOT HAVE ANY IMPROVEMENTS CURRENTLY SO A MOWER WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THOSE PARKS. SOMETHING

WE NEED TO KEEP UP WITH THOSE >> WHO DOES THE MAINTENANCE ON

THE MOWERS? >> ONE OF OUR HIRES USED TO WORK FOR ONE OF THE LOCAL SHOPS WITH 38 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO ALL THE MAINTENANCE THEY CAN IN-HOUSE THAT IS FEASIBLE WITHOUT HAVING TO SEND IT OUT AND HAVE THEM DO THE WORK SO THAT TAKES THAT SAVES HIM TIME OVER THERE. WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE WORKING AND WE ARE NOT WAITING ON EQUIPMENT OR TAKE TIME AWAY FROM THE FLEET TO GO

PICK IT UP. >> THANK YOU.

>> NEXT ONE IS INFORMATION SERVICES. THIS INCLUDES BOTH I.T. AND THE RADIO SYSTEM. IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS ON THAT WHEN THE NEXT ONE IS LIBRARY. THIS IS THE ONE THAT HAS THE GRANT PROJECT ORANGE PARK LIBRARY IMPROVEMENT PLAN IS TO CONVERT THE HALLWAY AND THE CURRENT MEETING ROOMS. THIS IS A GRANT WE GOT. MARY IS HERE -- I WOULD DEFER TO FACILITIES.

DONE IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LIBRARY.

HERE TO ANSWER THOSE IF YOU DO.

>> GOOD MORNING. DIRECTOR LIBRARY SERVICES. FOR THE ORANGE PARK IMPROVEMENT PLAN, THE GRANT -- WE ARE MATCHING $500,000 GRANT. THE QUOTE WAS OVER $1 MILLION. THAT IS WHY IT WAS 750 IN THE PROPOSED ADDITION. IT WILL TAKE THE EXISTING MEETING ROOM, RINGING ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE GALLERY

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AND THAT WILL ENABLE THE MEETING ROOM TO BE USED ALL THE TIME BY THE PUBLIC AND BY THE STAFF INSTEAD OF HAVING A STORYTIME IN THE MEETING ROOM AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU. >> IS THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS WILL GO TO PARKS AND RECREATION. SEVERAL PAGES FOR PARKS AND RECREATION. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THEM ONE PAGE AT A TIME. FIRST PAGES FOCUSED ON CAMP CHILD.

>> CAN WE DELAY THE AMPHITHEATER?

>> YES, MA'AM. THAT IS ONE OF THE PROJECTS WE CAN DELAY.

>> NEXT PAGE IS THE FAIRGROUNDS AND GUN RANGE.

>> I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK FOR SKEETS PRETTY FREQUENTLY. I KNOW YOU CHALLENGED TO BE COST NEUTRAL.

>> 350,000 FOR A LARGER STATE-OF-THE-ART TYPE HEAT SUIT -- SKEET SHOOT OPPORTUNITY AND BROUGHT IT DOWN TO A MORE

MANUAL SIMPLE SET UP. >> YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE 84,000 IN PORTABLES. WHAT THAT IS?

>> ON THE PORTABLES WERE THE TWO PORTABLE BUILDINGS WE RECEIVED FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD -- THERE. CURRENTLY IN THE PERMITTING PHASE. CONSTRUCTION OF BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS AROUND 100 K. ALTHOUGH WE ARE IN THE PERMITTING PHASE ESTIMATE THE RENOVATIONS CARRY

OVER TO NEXT FISCAL YEAR. >> THAT INCLUDES THE COST OF LOOKING UP ELECTRICITY, MAKING IT USABLE.

>> I HATE FOR YOU TO HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND COME BACK UP. HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. AS FAR AS THE SKEET RANGE IS CONCERNED, FROM $350,000-$50,000 TO TRUNCATE THE PROJECT. WOULDN'T IT MAKE MORE SENSE INSTEAD OF GREATLY LIMITING THE QUALITY OF THE PROJECT WHY NOT JUST PUSH IT BACK AND KEEP THE 350?

>> THERE IS SOME OPPORTUNITY OUT THERE TO PROVIDE THIS MANUAL TYPE SET UP WHERE THERE IS A DEVICE THAT SHOOTS THE SKEET FROM YOUR HAND BASICALLY.

ALTERNATIVE TO TRYING AND KEEP EVOLVING WITH THE GUN RANGE.

BUT COULD WE HOLD ON ON THAT. ABSOLUTELY.

>> WHAT WAS THE REST OF THE PROJECT? WHAT WAS THE PLAN?

>> WOULD'VE BEEN SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF TOWERS BUILT ALONG THE RANGE AND THEY WOULD EACH SHOOT SKEET IN A DIFFERENT MANNER SO WHEN THE SHOOTER WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TOWERS THEY WOULD CALL POLAND IT WOULD COME FROM DIFFERENT TOWERS. THE MANUAL IS A HANDHELD THROWING DEVICE BASICALLY.

>> I WAS JUST THINKING BIG PICTURE YOUR SECOND IDEA SOUNDS A LOT COOLER THAN YOUR FIRST. I WAS THINKING I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF BUILDING OUT SO THERE IS SOMETHING THERE, BUT I WONDER, DOES THIS COMPROMISE THE BIGGER PLAN OR IS THIS GOING TO BE A STEP UP PROJECT TO WORK UP TO WHAT THE BIGGER

PLAN WAS? >> THE EVOLUTION HAS BEEN

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FAIRLY -- >>

>> OUR MENTALITY IS TO START REALLY SLOW AND PICK UP THE TEMPO. I THINK WITH A HANDHELD IF WE DO IN THAT DIRECTION IT PROVIDES A NEW OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE WHO SHOOT SKEET THAT WE DO NOT HAVE IN THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW, BUT CERTAINLY IF IT IS REALISTIC THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT IT IN THE FOLLOWING BUDGET I WOULD RATHER SEE THAT WE CAN BUILD AROUND OR GET A BETTER PRODUCT ON TOP OF THE PRODUCT WITH THE 50,000.

>> AS A POINT OF CLARITY, THIS PROJECT BEING PROPOSED WOULDN'T BE RAISED AND THEN ADD SOMETHING DIFFERENT NEXT YEAR. IT IS NOT $50,000 WE ARE THROWING AWAY. OKAY. YOU USE THE WORD EVOLUTION. SO IT WOULD BE BUILDING OUT, NOT DESTROYING AND BUILDING SOMETHING BETTER NEXT.

>> YES, MA'AM. WE ALSO WANT TO EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF PROVIDING A PLAN AND LOOKING AT THE PLAN AND WHAT THE COST WOULD BE BEFORE WE ACTUALLY SPEND THE $50,000. SHOWING WE CAN ACTUALLY EVOLVE INTO A MORE ADVANCED OPTION.

>> THAT WAS ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE WERE HAVING WITH GUN RANGE STAFF. DO WE USE A PORTION OF ITS PUT TOGETHER A DESIGN THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE CAN DO WHAT IS THE FIRST PHASE, SECOND PHASE TO BUILD TO THAT 350 THOUSAND STATE OF OUR TYPE OF FACILITY. DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE WHERE WE ARE AWAITING THE DECISION OF WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

>> MIGHT BE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A SKEET RANGE. I DO NOT KNOW WHETHER THAT FALLS UNDER PARKS. THAT IS WHAT IT IS DESIGNED FOR, BUT RECREATIONAL FACILITY. THIS IS A HOLDING FACILITY. WE DO NOT HAVE THIS NOW.

>> I WOULD AGREE THAT AS AN OPTION FOR US TO RESEARCH. THE STATE DOES HAVE A LIST OF PRIORITY AMENITIES FOR PARKS THEY RELEASE EVERY YEAR. THAT PLAYS A ROLE. IT IS CERTAINLY

SOMETHING WE CAN EXPLORE. >> I THINK THE LIMIT IS

250,000. >> IF I MAY, IN AN SKEET FACILITY, AND I LIKE THEIR ANALOGY, WE TRY TO MEET THE DEMAND AS BEST WE CAN. WHEN IT COMES TO SKEET, THE FACILITIES ARE THESE TOWERS WORK CONCRETE BLOCK AND THEY HAVE A MACHINE AND EQUIPMENT INSIDE OF IT. IT IS LOADED UP AND THEN THERE IS A ELECTRONIC BUTTON AND DEVICE THAT LAUNCHES IT, THINGS LIKE THAT. FIRST IDENTIFYING THE AREA, BUILDING UPON THAT AND GET THE FACILITY REBUILT. THEN IT GETS EVEN MORE ELABORATE FROM THEN. USUALLY A ROUTE OR PATH TO TAKE DIFFERENT STATIONS ALONG THE WAY. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD ON TO THE SKEET RANGE AT JACKSONVILLE AND I CONSIDER THIS TO BE KIND OF THE SAME PROJECT TO BUILD UPON AND CAPITALIZE. I THINK ERIN AND THE TEAM ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB OUT THERE AS IT IS. IF WE COULD MAYBE GET THIS OFF THE GROUND A LITTLE BIT HERE IT MAY NOT BE VERY HIGH OFF. AND THEN WE COULD ALSO SEE THE DEMAND AND COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND SAY THIS NEEDS TO GROW SOME LEGS AND GET FASTER.

>> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HANDSEWN PLATE THAT GOES BACK TO MY MIND 50, 60 YEARS. FIRST IMPRESSIONS ARE VERY IMPORTANT.

>> HOW WILL YOU GET SOMEBODY TO SLING THOSE SUCKERS. YOU JUST

SOLVE THAT PROBLEM. >> IT IS ACTUALLY NOT HAND THROWN IT AS A LAUNCH MACHINE.

>> A ROLLING LAUNCH YOU CAN SAID THE TIMER ON THE DEVICE AND AS IT MOVES TOWER TO TOWER IT SHOOTS. SHOWED CELLA, THANK

YOU, BUT I THINK WERE GOOD. >>

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>> YOU NEVER KNOW. >> I JUST HAVE TO SAY, $770,000 AT THE REGIONAL PARK, I GET THREE TO FOUR COMPLAINTS A WEEK, NO EXAGGERATION, ABOUT NOT BEING AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AND TAXPAYER MONEY GOING INTO IT. AND I UNDERSTAND THE TOURISM. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I JUST HAVE TO TELL YOU, MAYBE IT IS BECAUSE IT IS IN MY DISTRICT, -- I HAVE GONE BACK AND WATCHED OLD MEDIANS, RED OLD MINUTES, I JUST DO NOT REMEMBER US TALKING ABOUT IT ONLY BEING AVAILABLE TO RENT OUT, THESE BIG TOURNAMENT THINGS AND ALL OF THAT. I REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT IT ON THE WEEKENDS, BUT DURING THE WEEK WE TALK ABOUT IT BEING AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. THEY CAN PARK ON THE SIDE AND WALK IN. NO SIGNAGE TO INDICATE THAT. AND THESE THINGS ARE THINGS LIKE BUILDING -- EXPANDING THE PARKING LOT OR THE CROSS-COUNTRY THING. I AM FINE TO TAKE IT ON THE CHIN. I RAN FOR OFFICE AND I SIGNED UP FOR THE JOB. I DID NOT SIGN UP FOR A $10 MILLION PARK THAT IS NOT AVAILABLE TO THE TAXPAYERS. I HAVE TO GO ON RECORD BECAUSE THEY BLOW ME UP AND IT GETS OLD. I'M NOT TRYING TO COMPLAIN. I KNOW YOU GET COMPLAINTS TOO. THIS ONE I TAKE ON THE CHIN. TO THE POINT WHERE I AM SOMETIMES LIKE I AM OUT. I AM DONE. BECAUSE THIS ONE HURTS . I WILL TAKE YOUR ROAD NOT BEING PAVED. SOMEBODY PROMISE YOU 25 YEARS AGO. I TAKE THOSE, THE GARBAGE FEES, TRY TO DO MY BEST ON THOSE. BUT THIS ONE IS HARD FOR ME AND IT IS PERSONAL AND IT IS EMOTIONAL AND I WILL STOP TALKING NOW BECAUSE IT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT I NEEDED TO SAY. I DO NOT KNOW THAT I CAN SUPPORT ANY MORE AT THE REGIONAL PARK BECAUSE I WAS SUPPORTIVE, I WAS ON BOARD, THE GOVERNOR SCRANTON THIS THING HAS GROWN AND I GET IT. I THINK WE NEED A CROSS-COUNTRY COURSE AND HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE IN CLAY COUNTY AND FOR ST. JOHN'S RIVER STATE COLLEGE AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. I AM ON BOARD WITH THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND I UNDERSTAND IT BRINGING PEOPLE TO CLAY COUNTY TO SPEND MONEY THAT THEN LEAVE. IT IS THE DURING THE WEEK PART THAT IT IS NOT OPEN TO OUR TAXPAYERS. ANYWAY. I'M

OUT. >> YES, MA'AM. THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE ADDRESSING. WORKING TO CREATE A PEDESTRIAN ACCESS GATE TO THE RIGHT OF THE MAIN GATE DRIVE-IN ENTRANCE.

THE MAIN THING WE ARE FOCUSING ON IS PROTECTING FIELDS . WE ARE OPEN SOME OF TO 3:00 SO HAVE IN THE PEDESTRIAN GATE WHERE THEY CAN PARK ON THE OUTSIDE TO WALK IN TO ENJOY THE TRAIL, WE WILL ENJOY -- INSTALL ALONG THE TRAIL AND ENTRANCE WITH THIS DESK TO DON SIGNAGE WE HAVE AT ALL OF OUR LOCATIONS OF PEDESTRIANS CAN ACCESS IT. AGAIN, THESE ARE HIGH-QUALITY ATHLETIC FIELD SO THEY ARE AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL YOU WOULD SEE AT --, BUT THE INTENT, LIKE CHARLIE SAID EARLIER WITH THE GUN RANGE, IS STILL THAT -- WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT A FALL IN THE WINTER LOOKS LIKE ON THOSE ATHLETIC FIELDS. TO OPEN IT AND LET PLAY MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS WILL BE. WE HAD TWO EVENTS AND WE ARE PLANNING MORE IN THE FALL. AS WE GO OVER TO NEXT YEAR HAVING THE MONDAY FOR THURSDAY RECREATIONAL ELEMENT FOR TEAMS TO PRACTICE WHETHER IT IS FOOTBALL OR SOCCER OR LACROSSE CEMENT PROTECT THAT FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY. AGAIN, WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE SEE HOW THE FIELDS RECOVER. THE LAST EVENT WE HAD WAS MIKE BALL TOURNAMENT. IT ALMOST LOOKED LIKE ALIENS CAME DOWN . CIRCLES OF BARE SPOTS ON THE FIELD. WE HAD HUGE CONCERNS BUT OVER TWO WEEK PERIOD DURING PRACTICES THE GRASS GREW BACK AND WAS HEALTHY SO THAT WAS A MOVING EXPERIENCE TO SAY HOW MUCH DAMAGE IN THE FIELD TAKE BEFORE WE CAN OPEN A BACKUP. WE ARE STILL WALKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS BUT WE ARE ADDRESSING THE CONCERN OF THE GATES BEING CLOSED AND PEDESTRIANS NOT BEING ABLE TO ACCESS FIELDS. WE RUN INTO ISSUES WHEN THE GATES ARE OPEN THERE ARE DOG WALKERS THAT ARE NOT CLEANING UP AFTER THEMSELVES SO WE ARE INSTALLING PET WASTE STATIONS. WASTE CAN

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EQUIPMENT IS FOR US TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE CONTRACT YOU SEE ON THE LINE ITEM ABOVE. SO AS WE GET MORE EQUIPMENT AND STAFF IN THOSE CONTRACTED SERVICES WE CAN PULL BACK. SO IT IS A SEESAW METHOD IF YOU WILL. THAT EQUIPMENT USED AT THE REGIONAL SPORTS COMPLEX WE CAN USE IT OTHER ATHLETIC FIELDS ACROSS THE COUNTY TO WHERE WE CAN START MOVING BACK THE CONTRACT WE HAVE ON THE GROUNDS MAINTENANCE BUDGET, AS WELL.

THIS IS AS BRINGING THINGS MORE IN-HOUSE, BUT, AGAIN, WE ARE OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS AND WHATEVER ADJUSTMENTS WE NEED TO MAKE. WE ARE WORKING ON THAT APPROPRIATION. TERRORISM HAS FUNDING TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AS FAR AS ADDING AMENITIES, INCREASE PARKING. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON SECONDARY ACCESS POINT TO ADD ADDITIONAL 150 PARKING SPACES SO VEHICLES WILL NOT BE PARKING ALONG THE ROAD. THOSE ARE THINGS WE DO INTERNALLY TO RECTIFY THE SITUATION UNTIL WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH FUTURE PHASES ABOUT WILL INCLUDE

ENHANCED PARKING. >> QUESTION. I AGREE AND I HEAR ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME. I'VE TALKED TO ABOUT THIS. THIS IS SOME:00 TO 3:00 COME FROM. WHY DID WE MAKE THOSE HOURS? DOESN'T HELP FOR ANYBODY TRYING TO GET OFF WORK AND TAKE

A WALK. >> THAT IS THE MAINTENANCE STAFF SCHEDULE SO THE GATE IS OPEN FROM 7:00 TO 3:00. BUT WE ARE CREATING A SECONDARY ACCESS POINT. GROUND RAIL FENCING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE MAIN GATE. WE WILL CREATE A PEDESTRIAN WALK POINT. IF YOU GO TO -- IT IS THE SAME SET UP. THERE IS PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO THE SITE WHERE YOU CAN WALK IN AND WALK THE FIELDS OR SOCCER PLAYER CAN COME IN, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE TO WHERE TEAMS CAN COME IN AND ACCESS THE FIELD AND HAVE UNAUTHORIZED PRACTICE BECAUSE NOW YOU ARE OPEN YOURSELF UP TO LIABILITY BECAUSE HE WAS ON THE FIELD, DO THEY HAVE LIABILITY INSURANCE.IS A YOUTH PROGRAM WITH BACKGROUND SCREENING ON RECORD. ALL THOSE THINGS WE WANT TO PROTECT SO WE KNOW WHO IS ACCESSING THE FIELDS FOR PRACTICES VERSUS PEDESTRIAN ACCESS. SEE MY GREAT IDEA. AS I GOING TO HAPPEN?

>> WORKING ON IT THIS WEEK. STAFF IS HERE AND WE HAD A --

INAUDIBLE ] >> AND HAVE SIGNAGE FOR THAT? AS FAR AS THAT THEY CAN PARK IN CERTAIN AREAS AFTER HOURS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WHAT IS THE SIGN GOING TO SAY?

>> WE WILL WORK WITH OUR COMMUNICATION TEAM TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE FROM 75 TO 3:00 TO DUSK UNTIL -- DAWN TO DUSK. YOU CAN ACCESS THE PARK. BUT ONCE IS A SCHEDULED ACTIVITY ALL T - PARKS ARE CLOSED. SO WE WILL ADD THAT SIGNAGE. WE WILL HAVE SIGNAGE, DUSK TO DAWN AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS SO YOU CAN BE ACCESS SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AND WAS IS A SCHEDULED ACTIVITY. WE WILL HAVE MESSAGING ON SOCIAL MEDIA TOO.

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. NEXT PAGE.

GETTING INTO YOUR GENERAL PARK AND RECREATION FOR ALL OF YOUR OTHER PARKS IN YOUR SYSTEM. NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE. THE

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LAST ONE. >> I GUESS WE ARE GOING TO

APPROVE THE PROJECT? >> YES, SIR. LAST BOARD MEETING THE DECISION WAS TO TAKE IT BACK. NOW THAT WE HAVE QUOTES UNDER THE THRESHOLD WE POTENTIALLY BETTER PRICING. THAT IS ESTIMATED TO BE

COMPLETED THIS FISCAL YEAR. >> PLAYGROUND REMODELS. ARE THEY ALL SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE RIGHT AWAY?

>> THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF A PREGROUND IS BETWEEN 15 TO 20 YEARS. MOODY AVENUE PARK WAS I BELIEVE INSTALLED IN 2010, 2012 RANGE. A HEAVILY USED PEGRAM. WE ARE HAVING A LOT OF REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE ISSUES AT THOSE PLAYGROUNDS AS WELL AS LACK OF REPLACEMENT PARKS DUE TO THE ENTRY OF THE PLAYGROUND. THAT IS ONE THAT IS UNIQUE. THAT IS THE ONLY PLAYGROUND WE HAVE THAT IS A POROUS PLAY SURFACE. THERE IS UNDER DRAINAGE THERE SO THE PLAYGROUND IS 80 ACCESSIBLE. THAT IS WHY THAT PROJECT IS A LITTLE HIGHER THAN THE REST WE HAVE. A LOT OF IT IS THE ACTUAL SERVICING OF THAT PLAYGROUND.

>> POSSIBLE GRANT OPPORTUNITY FOR -- SINCE IT IS A.D.A.

COMPLIANT. IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE SOMEBODY WOULD GIVE US A GRANT

FOR THAT. >> THAT IS SOMETHING I CAN TALK WITH OUTSIDE OF THIS MEETING AND SEE WHAT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES ARE OUT THERE.

>> MAYBE I MISSED IT, BUT >> IF YOUR MEMBER MAYBE A YEAR OR SO AGO WE HAD PROJECT WITH LOWE'S AND COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE TO WORK THAT POND INTO KIND OF AN OVERLOOK AREA.

WHAT BECOMES OF THAT IS A WALKING PATH THAT GOES AROUND THE ENTIRE POND WITH SECURITY MEASURES TO KEEP POTENTIAL GAITERS IN AND PEDESTRIAN SAFE TO WALK AROUND THAT. WHERE DO WE CREATE SOME KIND OF PARKING OPPORTUNITY FOR THE STRUCTURES

WE HAVE. >> THANK YOU.

>> JUMP IN IF I COULD, CHAIR. IN TERMS OF POND APART. THAT HAS BEEN ONGOING FROM THE COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE. GRANT FOR LOWE'S FOR THE FIRST PHASE. WE APPLIED FOR SECOND PHASE WHICH WE DIDN'T GET. WE WILL COME BACK AGAIN WITH THE MANAGER OF LOWE'S OVER IN ORANGE PARK IS ON THE COMMITTEE AND GETS PRETTY GOOD RECEPTION FROM LOWE'S CORPORATE. WE WILL TRY AND LOOK TO HAVE THAT MONEY INCLUDED IN THERE. I THINK EVERYBODY WITH THE COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE WOULD THINK WE CAN MOVE ON WITH SOME OTHER WAY TO FUND THAT WE CERTAINLY WOULD SELL IT FREE OF THE $200,000. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IN TERMS OF DANCE GOING BACK A COUPLE PAGES -- IN TERMS OF CAMERAS. WHERE WOULD THOSE BE ?

>> INITIALLY ROLLING THOSE OUT AT -- PARK, REGIONAL SPORTS COMPLEX. -- AND MOODY ARE TWO OF THE MOST HEAVILY UTILIZED PARKS WE HAVE. ALSO EXPERIENCES A LOT OF VANDALISM IN THE RESTROOM AREAS. CONSTANTLY REPLACING THE FIXTURES, SINKS, MIRRORS. ESPECIALLY SPRING BREAKS AND SUMMER TIME. SO HAVING THAT CAMERA SYSTEM CAN HELP WITH HATCHING THOSE VANDALS WHO ARE SPRAY PAINTING OR VANDALIZING PARK RESTROOMS. AS FAR AS A REGIONAL SPORTS COMPLEX WE ARE LOOKING AT TWO

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ALSO CONCERNS OFF-ROAD VEHICLES ACCESSING IT. -- DAMAGE CAN SHUT IT DOWN FOR WEEKS OR MONTHS. THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS .

IN THE EVENT SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS WE COULD CAPTURE THAT. YOU SEE IN THE BUDGET ALSO SECURITY MEASURES ABOUT PERIMETER FENCING. SO HOW DO WE PROTECT THE FIELDS FROM NATURE AS WELL AS THOSE THAT WILL COST THE COUNTY SOME DOLLARS.

>> ALL FOR THE CAMERAS. I THINK THEY PROVIDE US WITH SOME MEASURE OF SECURITY. HOPEFULLY HELP US TRACK DOWN ANYONE WHO DOES DAMAGE TO COUNTY PROPERTY.

>> TO CHIME IN A LITTLE BIT MORE, WITH THAT PORTABLE BUILDING THERE OPERATING SOME OF OUR RECREATIONAL ELEMENTS SO HAVING A CAMERA THAT CAN CAPTURE THAT ENTRANCE. WE FOUND THE DOOR KICKED IN ONCE SINCE WE MOVED IN THIS PAST DECEMBER SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE COVERED FOR ANY FUTURE EVENT AS WELL AS ANOTHER CAMERA CAPTURING THE BATHROOM AREA. AND MOODY AVENUE THE CAMERA WILL CATCH MAJORITY OF THE PARK AS WELL AS RESTROOMS AS WELL AS SPRAY PAINTING OR ISSUES WE'VE HAD.

>> THANK YOU. IF I COULD, -- DO NOT WANT TO INTERRUPT ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO REFERENCE WHAT COMMISSIONER RENNINGER TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN REGARDS THE REGIONAL SPORTS PARK . I DO FEEL SOME SYMPATHY AS FOR WHERE THEY STAND IN TERMS OF GETTING REACTION FROM RESIDENTS. I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT I DO NOT GET THAT SAME REACTION. IN A DIFFERENT PART OF THE COUNTY SO MAYBE A DIFFERENT OUTLOOK ON WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. I THINK IT WAS BEGINNING OF APRIL THAT WE OPENED THE REGIONAL SPORTS PARK AND HERE WE ARE AT THE END OF JULY. THAT HAS BEEN CONSISTENT IN TERMS OF THE WAY THEY ARE OPERATING WITH A SPORTS PARK THEY'VE OPERATED WITH THE OTHER FACILITY'S BEHALF. CRAWL, WALK, RUN KIND OF LAWSUIT. THEY MADE STRIDES AND I THINK IT WILL MAKE SIMILAR STRIDES. I ALSO THINK MOVING IN THE DIRECTION WE WANTED TO MOVE WITH THE REGIONAL SPORTS PARK, OBVIOUSLY IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF A SALES PITCH. OUR PARKS TO RESIDENTS. I THINK IT WILL GET TO THE POINT WE HAVE THE BALANCE WE NEED IN TERMS OF BEING ACCESSIBLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND AT THE SAME GUARD SAFEGUARDING WHAT IS A PRETTY BIG INVESTMENT BY NOT ONLY THE STATE OF FLORIDA, BUT OF COURSE, CONNECTING WITH THE COUNTY IN TERMS OF BEING A PARTNER IN THAT. I CAN ONLY SAY WHETHER IT IS NAPLES OR GAINESVILLE OR SEMINOLE OR SOME OF THESE OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAVE SPENDS A LOT MORE THAN WE HAVE IN TERMS OF PUTTING THOSE FACILITIES IN, SPECIFICALLY TO ATTRACT OUTSIDE VISITORS, TOURISTS IF YOU WILL. THEN BE ABLE TO SERVE THOSE TERRORS SO THAT THEY STAY AND SPEND MONEY HERE AND IMPROVE OUR SITUATION WITH CASH FLOW, SALES TAX, OTHER THINGS TOURISTS DO. QUITE HONESTLY IT HAS BEEN FOUND TO BE PART OF A GOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHERE PEOPLE COME IN USING THE FIELDS, PARTICIPATING WITH THEIR SON, DAUGHTER, CHILD, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. BRINGING OPPORTUNITY BACK BUSINESSWISE FOR THE COUNTY. I UNDERSTAND THE EMOTIONS OF THE RESIDENTS BUT CAN'T GET IN THERE. BUT WE ARE MAKING STRIDES IN THAT AREA. WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE SECURITY. AT THE SAME TIME, A LARGE REASON WHY THAT EXISTS THE RESIDENTS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY UTILIZES BECAUSE THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE TO GIVE A $3 MILLION GRANT SPECIFICALLY -- NOT FOR A LOCAL PARK ATTACHED BUT FOR A REGIONAL PARK THAT WILL ATTRACT OTHER FOLKS WITH TEAMS IN THAT KIND OF THING TO UTILIZE IT. SO WHEN YOU HAVE GAINESVILLE SPENDING 29 OR $30 MILLION ON THE LATEST PROJECT AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE SPENDING CLOSE TO $60 MILLION. THEY DO THAT FOR REASON.

BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE LOOKING TO ATTRACT PEOPLE IN.

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THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR DELAYING THE AMPHITHEATER.

SINCE YOU KNOW ALL OF THESE AND WE DON'T IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN DELAY? OVER ALL OF THESE?

>> YES, MA'AM. I UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION THE COUNTY IS IN.

WE ARE LOOKING AT PROJECTS WHERE -- THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO LOOK AT. WE WANT TO GO DOWN THE LIST OF HOW

YOU WOULD LIKE TO -- >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> DILAPIDATED RESOURCE THERE. A RESOURCE FOR QUALITY OF LIFE EVENTS. WE UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION. SO THAT IS WHERE WE CAN GROW BUT NOT A MAIN UPKEEP NEED. WE CAN DELAY THAT.

FLIPPING THE PAGE TO THE GUN RANGE. WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE SKEET RANGE AND POSSIBLY LOOKING AT GRANTS TO HELP FIND THAT OR THINGS THAT OUT OR USING PORTIONS OF THAT 50,000 TO DESIGN. AGAIN, THAT WAS THE PLAN ON THAT PAGE THAT COULD BE A POINT OF DISCUSSION. FLIPPING THE PAGE TO THE SPORTS COMPLEX. ALL OF THESE ARE SECURITY OR OPERATIONAL SUBSTANCES. -- EXPENSES. UNLESS OR SOMETHING AS FAR AS EQUIPMENT THE DECISION IS MADE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE CAN MAYBE PULL BACK A LITTLE BIT, BUT ALL OF THESE OPERATIONAL EXPENSES FOR THE SPORTS COMPLEX. GOING INTO PARKS AND REC PROJECTS. THE BLACK CREEK BIKE TRAIL, THAT IS A MAJOR ISSUE. THERE IS A LOT OF SOFT SPOTS ALONG THE TRAIL. WE ARE WORKING ON DESIGNS AND WE HAVE ESTIMATES NOW TO HAVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS WHERE THERE IS WORD, WHERE DECK OR TRACKS. DIFFERENT OPTIONS. THE FUNDING WE HAVE AVAILABLE WOULD ALLOW US TO BID OUT TWO OF THOSE THREE OPTIONS. AGAIN, THAT IS NOT A LUXURY ITEM. THAT IS A REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE ITEM. THAT WOULD NOT BE ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS. -- PARK, MAJOR DRAINAGE ISSUES THERE. HOW TO MAKE THAT FIELD MORE PLAYABLE AND RECOVERABLE AFTER HEAVY RAINS WHERE IT IS NOT COUNSELING FOR SOMETIMES WEEKS AT A TIME. -- WE ARE NEEDED

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THAT WILL BE A PROJECT I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND -- DRAINAGE FOR OAKLEY SPORTS COMPLEX. THE SAME SCENARIO. 99% COMPLETE. THE REST OF THE FUNDING AND DESIGN IS FOR CONTRACT OVERSIGHT FOR WHEN WE PUT THAT PROJECT OUT TO BID AND START IMPROVEMENT ON THOSE ATHLETIC FIELDS. PLANTATION SPORTS COMPLEX.

GROUNDS MAINTENANCE -- GROWING. LOOKING AT HAVING A STAGING AREA TO ENSURE DRIVETIME AND EQUIPMENT FOR CALLING FROM GREEN COVE AND WE CAN HAVE EQUIPMENT IN THAT AREA.

INAUDIBLE ] ALL IN A CENTRALIZED LOCATION SO THAT IS THE IDEA BEHIND THAT. THAT IS A PROJECT THAT NEEDS TO BE DELAYED. THAT IS ONE THAT COULD BE RECOMMENDED. BOAT RAMP STORM DAMAGE. THOSE ARE PARA-MAINTENANCE ITEMS. YOU CAN ASK A QUESTION ON THAT ONE? THE 280 REPAIRS THE DAMAGE ALREADY

DONE, CORRECT? >> YES, SIR.

>> THE 500,000 FOR NEXT YEAR'S THAT JUST IN CASE OR --

>> THOSE OF US ONCE WE RECEIVE ARCHERY REPAIR COSTS. WHEN ASSESSMENTS CAME BACK WHEN FACILITIES PUT THAT OUT THAT IS THE ESTIMATED COST FOR BOAT RAMP AND I THINK IT WAS

GOVERNOR'S CREEK. YES, SIR. >> THANK YOU. SORRY.

>> NO PROBLEM. WE CAN TALK OFF-LINE TO CONFIRM AS WELL.

NEXT YEAR -- CONNECTION ISSUE. WE HAVE A LOT OF DRAINAGE AND PLUMBING ISSUES THERE. REACHED CAPACITY AND NEED TO ALLOW BACKUP IN THE RESTROOMS. EXPERIENCE THAT IN THE PAST. TO MAKE IT SAFER AND FUNCTION BETTER WHEN UTILIZED AT MAXIMUM CAPACITY. AMENITIES SHADES. ARE PLAYGROUNDS ARE IN THE ELEMENTS ALL WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM OUR MASTER-PLANNED SURVEYS. THEY WANT SHADE STRUCTURES OVER PLAYGROUND AREAS AS WELL AS THE BLEACHERS AT ATHLETIC COMPLEXES WHERE YOU'RE AT A GAME IN THE SUN IS BEATING ON YOU. THAT IS A DECISION -- THAT IS THE IDEA BEHIND IT. SPECIAL EVENT PROGRAMMING. THAT IS BRINGING QUALITY OF LIFE EVENTS AND PROGRAMS TO THE COMMUNITY. THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SPOKE HIGHLY HONOR SURVEYS THAT THE RESIDENTS WANT TO SEE MORE PROGRAMS. THAT FUNDING COULD BE ADJUSTED DEPENDING ON THE NEEDS OF THE BOARD. REMOTE LIGHTING SYSTEMS FOR PARKS. A LOT OF OUR LIGHTING -- PAUL ARMSTRONG IS A PRIME EXAMPLE. THAT IS A MANUAL TIMER. BE ABLE TO REMOTELY SET A TIME, DUSK TO DAWN, 9:00 P.M.

TO 6 P.M. REMOTELY. A LOT OF OUR AMENITIES ARE STILL IN THAT MANUAL PHASE AREA THAT IS A WAY FOR US BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH TIME AND RESOURCES. OR IF YOU EXPERIENCE A LIGHTNING STRIKE AND UNTIL YOUR PHONE CALL FROM THE RESIDENTS OF THE LIGHTS DINNER, WE WON'T KNOW SO THE LIGHTING SYSTEM WILL BE ABLE TO TELL US IS A MALFUNCTION SOMEWHERE TO GET THAT FIXED.

THE PARK AND EXPANSION PROJECT CURRENTLY AT PAUL ARMSTRONG. IF YOU PART TWO VEHICLES EAST AND WEST IT IS BARELY ENOUGH FOR A CAR TO DRIVE THROUGH WHICH IS AN ISSUE WE ARE TRYING TO RECTIFY. WE ARE HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW TO EXPAND THE SIDE ACCESS FUNDS. TO REMOVE THAT FENCE AND EXPAND THE PARKING TO WHERE WE CAN INCREASE THE RANGE I WANT TO SAY 50 FEET BETWEEN A CAR AND THE EMERGENCY VEHICLE TO GET TO THAT PART. THOSE ARE DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING.

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PLAYABILITY. >> WHAT ABOUT THE MOODY PARK OR

PLAYGROUND? >> THAT GOES BACK TO THE CONVERSATION WE HAD EARLIER ABOUT THE LIFESPAN OF THE PLAYGROUND AND THAT IS UP FOR RENEWAL. WE HAVE A LOT OF REPAIRS AND FINDING REPLACEMENT PARKS FOR THOSE. AND THE NUMBER FOR THAT IS BECAUSE THE SURFACE WHICH IS THE ONLY A.D.A.

ACCESSIBLE SERVICE -- SURFACE WE HAVE IN OUR PART SYSTEM. SO THERE IS UNDER DRAINAGE INVOLVED TO WHERE THAT INAUDIBLE ] AND HIS PLAYGROUND WE ARE DOING A FOX MEADOW .

RUNNING IN THE 230 RANGE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> IF WE COULD GO BACK TO PAUL ARMSTRONG. I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE STAND WITH THAT. MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME HELP WITH IN REGARDS TO WHAT THE DEVELOPERS LOOKING TO DO. MULTIFAMILY BUILDING BEHIND THE PIE CAN BE ABLE TO OPEN UP A SECOND EXETER ENTRANCE. EMERGENCY EXIT, ENTRANCE I GUESS. WHERE DO WE STAND ON THAT? ARE WE CONTEMPLATING WE WILL HAVE TO PUT MORE MONEY IN ON TOP OF WHAT THE DEVELOPERS ALREADY SAID THEY MAY BE INTERESTED IN DOING?

>> WE'VE BEEN HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH REGARDS TO THAT. WE MET WITH HIM LAST WEEK. HAD DISCUSSION WITH RICHARD. I THINK THROUGH ENGINEERING WE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE PROPOSED DESIGN SO WE'VE GOT TO GO BACK. STILL

WORKING ON IT. >> ABSOLUTELY HAS TO GET DONE.

TALK TO OFFSETTING SOME OF THE COST. THAT IS STILL IN PROGRESS

THEN? OKAY. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> NEXT PAGE IS RISK MANAGEMENT.

>> WE NEED A VEHICLE FOR RISK MANAGEMENT? IS THAT WHAT THAT IS? I GUESS I DEFER TO THE FLEET EXPERTS. I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THESE 10-YEAR-OLD VEHICLES. BUT WHEN I'VE ASKED QUESTIONS IN THE PAST OF FIRE RESCUE -- EXPLAINED TO ME REQUIREMENTS THEY HAVE STATUTORILY ON THEIR VEHICLES, BUT CAN WE MOVE ANY OF THOSE OLDER VEHICLES INTO SOME OF THESE VEHICLES. I GET IT, EVERYBODY WANTS A VEHICLE. BUT YOU ARE TELLING US WE HAVE THE PARKING ISSUE. IF WE DO NOT HAVE VEHICLES -- THERE IS KIND OF A THEME. WE ARE GROWING. BUT WE ARE NOT GROWING THAT FAST. WE ARE GROWING BECAUSE WE ARE ADDING STAFF. SHOULD WE BE ADDING STAFF? IT IS ALL IN MY HEAD THIS JUMBLED UP, OKAY, OUR CONSTITUENT SAY WHERE IS ALL THE MONEY THAT OUR PROPERTY VALUES ARE GOING UP SO COSTS ARE GOING UP, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT. WE ARE NOW PAYING OUR PEOPLE -- EVERYBODY GETS THAT LONG TIME OVERDUE. THOSE THINGS WE GET. BY CONSTANTLY ADDING STAFF AND THEN THOSE STAFF NEED A VEHICLE. HOW MANY VEHICLES -- I KNOW CHARISSE DEPARTMENT -- BECAUSE I'VE HEARD THEM TALK ABOUT IT -- CHECKS OUT VEHICLE.

NO ONE IS ASSIGNED A VEHICLE, BUT IF THEY NEED A VEHICLE THEY GO AND CHECK IT OUT. AND THEN THEY USE IT WHEN THEY NEED IT.

IS THAT HOW OTHER VEHICLES ARE USED? THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD SAY BECAUSE IT JUST POPPED IN MY HEAD SO SORRY ABOUT MY DELAYED REACTION -- WE MOVED ON FROM PARKS AND REC -- BACK BEFORE 2008 WE HAD MAINTENANCE SHEDS AT STRATEGIC LOCATIONS AROUND THE COUNTY AND EQUIPMENT THAT WAS DEDICATED TO

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IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY DEPARTMENT WE'VE GONE TO IS ADDING VEHICLES. AND I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE THAT IS THE LIFE OF OUR VEHICLES WE ARE ALL AT THAT POINT. IT JUST SEEMS ODD TO ME WE HAVE THAT MANY VEHICLES THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED AT THAT FREQUENCY. I'M SORRY. I CANNOT TO GIVE YOU A HEART ATTACK THERE. I THINK THE CHECKOUT SYSTEM WORKS. THOSE VEHICLES ARE DRIVEN EVERY DAY, BUT BY DIFFERENT PEOPLE. MAYBE EVERYBODY DOES THAT. I DON'T KNOW.

>> IF WE ARE LOOKING IN THAT DIRECTION CAN WE TAKE AN INVENTORY OF VEHICLES LIKE WE DO WITH FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AND SAY, OKAY, WE HAVE 75 VEHICLES ARE LOOKING TO GO TO 85 OR GOING TO 80 BECAUSE WE ARE REPLACING RATHER THAN ADDING.

THE MEDIC SOUNDS LIKE WHAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE TO THE BOARD IS PROVIDE A LIST OF ALL THE VEHICLES WE ARE PURCHASING NEXT YEAR, ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT WE ARE PURCHASING AND DETAIL AT WHICH ARE REPLACEMENTS AND WHICH ARE NEW. I THINK THAT ANSWERS THE FIRST QUESTION OF HOW MANY NEW VEHICLES WE ARE BUYING VERSUS HOW MUCH EXPANSION YOU'RE DOING VERSUS HOW MUCH HER PLACEMENT. WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU. I THINK THE NEXT THING WE CAN DO TO LOOK AT WHAT VEHICLES WILL REPLACING AND SAYING HERE ARE THE VEHICLES WE ARE REPLACING BECAUSE WE HAVE EXACTLY WHAT VEHICLES WE ARE REPLACING IN OUR SYSTEM. FROM THE ESSAY VEHICLES WE ARE REPLACING HAS 12 YEARS, 280,000 MILES, AND HERE IS THE COST THAT HAS BEEN OCCURRING OVER THE LAST YEAR TO MAINTAIN. I THINK THAT WOULD HELP GIVE THE VISIBILITY TO SAY WHY ARE WE REPLACING THESE VEHICLES. I DON'T THINK THAT IS A HARD EXERCISE FOR US TO DO. I THINK IF YOU GIVE US A WEEK OR SO, TWO WEEKS, WE CAN COME BACK WITH THAT INFORMATION AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? PERFECT. >> I THINK THAT IS GREAT. IT HAS BEEN PIECEMEAL TO US SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IN ONE PLACE HERE IS -- WHETHER YOU BREAK IT DOWN BY VEHICLE OR WHATEVER OR JUST A NUMBER. WE'VE GROWN FROM TWO YEARS AGO OR THREE YEARS AGO WE MOVED FROM 65 TO 105. REPLACED A BUNCH OF THOSE 65 SIT AND INCREASE THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES FLOATING AROUND. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. DR. MIKE VEHICLES WE ARE ENSURING THAT WILL GIVE US AN IDEA OF THE WORTH OF THE VEHICLES. THERE IS THAT OTHER ADDED COSTS. WE HAVE OTHER UNSEEN COSTS SUCH AS INSURANCE, LIABILITY, ALL THAT STUFF. WE CAN DEFINITELY PROVIDE THAT. A GOOD REASON TO SET THIS UP. ON THE BUDGET SIDE --

>> WE PURCHASE THE VEHICLES, DO WE DO THAT INDIVIDUAL PURCHASE EVERY TIME, BIDDING ON THAT, OR HOW DO WE BUY?

>> USUALLY STATE CONTRACT. AND WE BOUNCED AROUND THE IDEA NOW

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>> THAT IS WHAT I WAS GETTING INTO. SEE IF WE CAN GET MORE LEVERAGE BUYING X AMOUNT OF VEHICLES AND PLAY THAT TO OUR

ADVANTAGE. >>

>> THANK YOU. >> THE LAST TWO PROJECTS.

PURCHASING. CREATING A PROJECTS A WEEK CAN ACCOUNT AND BE TRANSPARENT TO OF WHAT -- IS COSTING US. THE OTHER IS A WELLNESS PAVILION. WELLNESS PRESERVE MONEY WE GET FROM BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD AND WE WILL USE THAT FOR THE PAVILION

VERSUS GENERAL FUND DOLLARS. >> CLAY DAY, HOW DOES THAT WORK

WITH SPONSORSHIPS? >> WE DO NOT USE THE SPONSORSHIPS RIGHT NOW TO PAY FOR OUR TRAVEL. WE USE SPONSORSHIPS TO PAY FOR THE VENUE, THE TENTS, ALL OF THAT STUFF. THIS REALLY COMES DOWN TO TRAVEL FOR THE STAFF THAT GOES TO CLAY DAY. LOOKING FOR THOSE EFFICIENCIES OF OPERATION WHERE AS IN THE PAST EVERY DEPARTMENT PULLED THEIR OWN TRAVEL, WORKED INDIVIDUALLY. BY PUTTING IT TOGETHER IT ALL FALLS UNDER HER AND MAKES IT EASIER FOR LOOKING FOR THOSE EFFICIENCIES. THEY MAY BE SMALL, BUT THEY ADD UP. THAT IS THE END OF YOUR COST CENTER --

>> MAY BE A TOO IN THE WEEDS QUESTION, BUT THIS FIGURE, HOW

MANY PEOPLE DOES THAT COVER? >> WE HAVE OUTLINED OUT BY -- WE CAN GET YOU THAT NUMBER. I CAN GET THAT TO YOU AFTER THIS MEETING. I JUST DON'T HAVE IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

>> I FIGURED. I'M SORRY. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.

>> YES, MA'AM. BEFORE I MOVED TO PERSONNEL ARE THERE ANY OTHER FUNDS YOU LIKE TO GO OVER? I KNOW I JUST GAVE YOU THE UPDATED COPY THIS MORNING. ANY FUND YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT BEFORE WE GO INTO PERSONNEL AND THEN IN THE CAPITAL? GOING INTO PERSONNEL, ORIGINALLY WHEN WE ASK ALL THE DEPARTMENTS FOR THEIR LIST END UP WITH 127 FTE ASKED FOR. WHEN WE WERE TO THE WORKSHOP IN MARCH WE HAD A LIST OF 42 1/2 FTE. AT THE PRESENT TIME RECOMMENDED BUDGET IS 22 1/2 FTE. 15TH FIREFIGHTERS AND 7.5 OTHER POSITIONS. THAT IS WHERE

WE SIT TODAY. >> WERE ON THE 7.5 FTE?

>> ONE IS IN I.T. ONE IS IN GRANTS. ONE IS A PART-TIME PERSON AT THE GUN RANGE. ONE, TWO, THREE ARE FOR PARKS INTERACTS. A MECHANIC AND A SOLID WASTE INSPECTOR. THAT IS YOUR TOTAL PLEASURE 15TH FIREFIGHTERS.

>> WHAT ARE THE THREE PARK-AND-RIDE?

>> EVENT SPECIALIST, BALLWIN TECH, AND ATHLETIC FIELD TECH.

>> SPECIAL EVENTS OR W CALL THAT, IS THAT FAIRGROUNDS?

>> I WILL DEFER TO JUSTIN ON WHAT THE EVENT SPECIALIST WILL

DO. >> JUSTIN PIERCE AGAIN. YES,

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>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

>> I HAD ONE FUND I THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC, BUT I DO NOT KNOW THE NUMBER OF IT. THE NEW ONE FOR THE SHERIFF'S

DEPARTMENT FOR THE SRO >> 1077.

>> I JUST WANTED THE PUBLIC TO SEE THAT THE CASH CARRYFORWARD FROM THE 23-24 BUDGET OF THE 225.890 IS WHAT WAS TRANSFERRED JULY 1 INTO OUR BUDGET TO THEN GO FOR THE INITIAL IMPLEMENTATION 4.5 MILLION IS EXACTLY WHAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SAID THEY NEEDED TO RUN TO TAKE OVER THE SRO, THE SCHOOL BOARD POLICE WITH SRO. THAT IS THE ENDING BALANCE AS WELL. FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SIDE, THE TRANSFER FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD OF THAT SPECIAL MILL THEY HAVE -- ONE MILL IN TREMONT GENERATES IN THIS PURPOSE FOR ABOUT $90 MILLION. AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SAID THEY NEEDED 4 1/2 MILLION DOLLARS TO TAKE OVER THAT SCHOOL BOARD POLICE.

SCHOOL BOARD TRANSFER THE FOREIGN HALF-MILLION DOLLARS OUT OF THAT $90 MILLION TO -- OR THEY WILL TRANSFER TO THE BCC. A PAST FEW DASHES THROUGH FOR THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT.

USING 100% OF THAT FOR SRO. I JUST WANTED TO BE KNOWN TO THE PUBLIC THAT FROM THE BCC AND SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SIDE WE ARE CLEAN ON THAT MONEY. THE REST OF THE MONEY I DO NOT KNOW THAT GO TOWARDS. BUT THAT MONEY THAT COMES HERE, I JUST WANTED

THAT TO BE HIGHLIGHTED. >> EVERY DOLLAR REVENUES COMING

TO THEM AS AN EXPENSE. >> THANK YOU.

>> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS IS ABOUT 30 PEOPLE INCLUDING THE COMMITTEE. ROUGHLY 30, 31 PEOPLE YOU BUDGETED RIGHT NOW.

GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK MY MATH. DID NOT COME UP WITH AN EVEN NUMBER OF PEOPLE. BUT, YES, ABOUT 30, 31 PEOPLE.

>> EVERYBODY ASK WHAT WE PUT IN IN THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR FOR EMPLOYEE INCREASES. AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE FENCED OFF SOME FUNDING. WORKING WITH COUNTY MANAGER AND PERSONNEL WE WILL DECIDE HOW MUCH OF THAT WILL GO STRAIGHT ACROSS THE BOARD AND HOW MUCH WILL GO TO HONOR INCREASES AS PART AS PHASE TWO OF OUR COMPENSATION STUDY. THE COMPENSATION STUDY WE IMPLEMENT IT LAST YEAR TALKED ABOUT MOVING PEOPLE THROUGH LEVELS INSIDE OF THE JOB. BASED ON THEIR CAREER PATH AND USING EDUCATION, EXPERIENCE, TENURE TO RESUME IN THE FIELD. SO IT WILL BE A COMBINATION OF BOTH OF THOSE WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT FOR COMPENSATION NEXT YEAR. IF THAT MAKES SENSE. I DO NOT HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT. I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU. NEXT SLIDE TALKS ABOUT BENEFITS. HE WILL BRING THE BOARD OPTIONS FOR ADJUSTING BENEFITS IN AUGUST. BEEN WORKING HARD WITH THE BENEFIT COMMITTEE AND OUR BROKER TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO CONTROL THE COST OF HEALTHCARE.

THOSE INCLUDE CARVING OUT PHARMACY, ALTERNATIVES TO

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PROBABLY ABOUT 15 DIFFERENT THINGS THE BENEFIT COMMITTEE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT. THE GOAL IS TO BRING YOU A COMPREHENSIVE PACKAGE TO LOOK AT IN AUGUST FOR ALL OF THE BENEFITS COMBINED SO YOU CAN SEE THE OVERALL EFFECT ON THE COUNTY.

[3.  CIP/Bond]

>> INCLUDE RETIREES? >> YES, SIR. IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS THERE WE WILL MOVE TO CAPITAL. WE HAVE A SLIDE DECK WHICH HAS A GENERALIZED IDEA OF CIP. IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO THE DETAILS WE HAVE THE 10 YEAR CIP WE PROVIDED IN SMALL PRINT, LARGE PAPER. BUT WE CAN WORK OFF THE SLIDES AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS WE CAN DIVE INTO OTHER PAGES. LOOKING AT THE FIVE YEAR CIP. SPENDS A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO GET US BALANCE.

WE ARE BALANCED AT THIS POINT THROUGH THE FIVE YEARS. DONE A GREAT JOB GETTING US TO THAT POINT. YOU WILL SEE SOME CHANGES WE MADE. ANYTHING IN COLORS BECAUSE WE MADE A CHANGE. BUT WE'VE ADJUSTED THE SALES TAX. THE BIGGEST THING IS GOING INTO YEAR SIX -- NOT ADDING NEGATIVE. BOXES IN GREENER PROJECTS WE ARE ADDING MONEY TO. THIS IS TO FUND COUNTY ROAD T 20. AS YOU SEE LATER ON BECAUSE OF THE BOND ABLE TO MOVE DIFFERENT BUDGETS OUT OF CIP AND ALLOWS US TO FUND THIS PROJECT. NOT TO GET AHEAD OF OURSELVES, BUT -- WANT TO COME UP AND TALK REALLY QUICK? KAREN AND THE TEAM WORKING WITH THE OT TO HOPEFULLY SECURE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING. HOPEFULLY BRING CONTRACTS TO YOU AT THE BOARD MEETING. ALSO BRING THAT AGREEMENT TO YOU CHANGES GRANT

FUNDING. >> THIS INCLUDES STATE BRIDGE

MONEY? >> THIS IS OUR CIP DOLLARS. A GRANT THAT INCLUDES IT. WITH THE CHANGE TO THE GRANT KAREN WILL BRING TO THE BOARD THE MONEY WE GOT IN CIP, WE FEEL HE WILL HAVE THE FUNDING IN PLACE THAT WILL ALLOW US TO DO BOTH TO 20 PROJECTS. THE NEXT PAGE, NO CHANGES WERE MADE. NEXT PAGE NO CHANGES. I WOULD GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY WHICH WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS

TO HEAR FROM HIM NOW. >> BRING HIM ON UP. THE MAC --

>> WE ARE DOING MORE THAN JUST SPENDING THE MONEY SO TO SPEAK.

ONE THING WE HAVE GOING ON NOW IS A PILOT PROJECT. THREE PARTS TO THIS. RESURFACING PAVED ROADS COME IN AND GOT A COUNTYWIDE STUDY DONE THREE YEARS AGO WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD OUT. ONE OF OUR GOALS IS BILLED OVERALL CONDITION OF THE ROADS UP ON AVERAGE. THE DIRT ROAD PAVING PROJECTS HAVE KIND OF EXPANDED OUT TO TAKE THE USE OF THE BUILDINGS AND PUT THEM IN PARISH ON THE DIRT ROAD TO RING THEM UP TO A BETTER LEVEL OF SERVICE. STARTING A PILOT PROJECT I THINK WE WILL PROBABLY START THIS WEEK WHERE WE'VE TAKEN A MILLED ROAD AND WE ARE GOING TO NOW DO A ALL WEATHER PAVING SURFACE ON IT.

CAME IN AT ABOUT 60% SAVINGS. SO WE THINK WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET OUR MILLION-DOLLAR MILE. ME DROPPED UP TO BELOW HALF 1 MILLION A MILE IF THIS WORKS. WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT. PROJECT THAT WILL HOPEFULLY GET THEM FOR $81,000. SO TRYING TO DO SOME EFFICIENCIES. ONE THING WE NEED A LITTLE BIT OF -- AND IT

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THAT ALSO OPENS UP MILLION OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE 19 ROADS WE CURRENTLY GRADE 17 TIMES A YEAR. EVERY THREE WEEKS GOING OUT THERE. WE WILL GET THOSE ROADS MILLED AND THEY WILL BE DONE. WE WILL NOT HAVE TO TOUCH THEM AGAIN. SO THE CURRENT BUDGET WHICH I HAVE LAID OUT AT ABOUT 10.3 ASH WE ARE TOUCHING 73 ROADS. IN THESE RANGE FROM TOWN CENTER PARKWAY DOWN TO ANTELOPE WHICH IS A LITTLE SHORT DIRT ROAD TRAIL OFF OF THE 215 AREA. ONE THING I WANT TO ANSWER -- ASKED SOURCE FLEXIBILITY. I WILL GIVE YOU THE LIST. ALL 73 ROADS ARE ACCOUNTED FOR WITH THE PRICE FOR EACH ONE. 73 SEPARATE PROJECTS AS WE GO TO PROJECT-BASED BUDGET INSTEAD OF BUCKET BASED BUDGET. IF THERE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS I WILL ANSWER THOSE. ONE THING WE DID TO MAKE THAT WORK IS IF THIS WORKS ON THE ROAD WE ARE DOING WHERE WE ARE DOING RESURFACING THE MILLIONS PHASE ONE AND COMING BACK WITH AN ASPHALT SURFACE. IN THIS CASE ABOUT SIX MONTHS LATER. MAYBE DOING THAT WITH ONE OF OUR DIRT ROADS WE PLANNED ON PAVING. MILL AT THIS YEAR AND THE DO THIS FOR NEXT YEAR. SO WE TAKE ABOUT A $650,000 DIRT ROAD PAVING JOB AND GET IT DONE FOR AROUND 350.

BUT IT WILL BE SPREAD OUT OVER TWO BUCKET CYCLES. WE JUST WANT TO LOOK AND SEE. CERTAIN ROADS STRAIGHT, RELATIVELY FLAT, DRAINED WELL. WE THINK IT WILL WORK. WE ARE HOPING IT WILL. WE HAVE OUR FINGERS CROSSED. ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY?

>> WHAT IS THIS NEW PROCESS? >> NOT REALLY A NEW PROCESS. IT IS CALLED CHIP SEAL. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD BASE MATERIAL FIRST OF ALL WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE MILLING.

KIND OF CHEATED A LITTLE BIT. NOT STARTING FROM A FLAT DIRT.

ALREADY PUT SOME IMPROVEMENT IN IT. ONE OF THE MAIN WAYS ST.

JOHNS COUNTY WHERE THEY DID THEIR ROAD -- THERE DIRT ROAD BOND -- THIS IS WHAT THE USED TO GET A LOT OF THEM COVERED UP. WE STILL THINK WE GET 20 YEAR LIFE OUT OF IT MAINLY BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC IS SO LOW ON THESE ROADS TYPICALLY PEER LOOKING AT LOCAL TRAFFIC. NOT LOOKING AT A LOT OF TRUCKS.

DIRT ROAD THAT MAY BE LEADS INTO A STATE FOREST OR THERE'LL BE CONSTANT OPERATIONS FOR TEMPERING AND STUFF. WE WILL HAVE OUR EYES ON IT. SHOULD HAVE A REPORT ON IT MAY BE IN FIRST OR SECOND MEETING IN SEPTEMBER.

>> FOR ME BUDGET PERSPECTIVE THE BOARD HAS A FEW OPTIONS.

CONTINUED REHAB WITH THREE DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS IN YOUR BUDGET, ALLOCATE BASED ON RICHARD SUGGESTION EACH YEAR.

WITH THAT WILL DO IS HE'LL HAVE UPS AND DOWNS IN YOUR RESURFACING, REPAVING, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SAY CONSISTENTLY

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>> THE GOAL IS TO GET THE OVERALL INDEX TO PAVING FOR THE 1200 PAVED THE MILES UP. THE GOAL ON THE OTHER END IS DIFFERENT. SOME REQUIRE A LOT OF MAINTENANCE AND IF WE CAN TAKE 57 GRADING TRIPS A YEAR OUT OF IT THAT IS A PUBLIC WORKS WIN. ANOTHER THING IS WE ARE CHANGING, WE HAVE A ROAD LIKE RUSSELL ROAD 209. SOON IT HAS CHANGED A LOT. ROOFTOPS COMING IN. WE WANT TO GET -- ROAD -- THE GRATERS PHYSICALLY GET ON 17 OR -- OR SANDRIDGE OR RUSSELL ROAD, FIGHT THE TRAFFIC JUST LIKE EVERYBODY IN TESLAS OR PREVENTS AND SWATTED TRUCKS.

WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS. WE HAVE HUTCHINSON ROAD ON THE LIST.

WHEN IT GETS MILLED IT COMES OFF OF 220 NORTH OF 220 JUST EAST OF NIGHT BOX. ONLY ONE ROAD LEFT IN DISTRICTS ONE, TWO, OR THREE THAT AREN'T PAVED OR MILLED. THAT IS BUGGY WHIP. IT HAS SOME RIGHT-OF-WAY ISSUES AS WELL AS IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE -- A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T LIKE IT PAVED. JUST KEEP IN CONDITION. THERE IS PROGRESS BEING MADE. HAVE TO GO INTO DEFAULT COUNTY. HAVE TO GO ON 301 UP TO MEXICO AND COME ON DOWN. THAT WHEN WE WANT TO GET MILLING ON AND NOT HAVE TO MAKE THAT TRIP. THERE ARE DIFFERENT GOALS AND SOME YEARS WE WILL SEE ASHLEY'S LONG ROADS -- WE HAVE A NEW FIRE STATION GOING THERE. 250 IS IMPORTANT. OTHER YEARS MAYBE GET SOME OF THOSE ROADS IN THE MIDDLEBURG AREA THAT WERE DIRT ROADS AND NOW HAVE VACANT LOTS ON THEM. LET'S GET THOSE TAKEN CARE OF, GET MAINTENANCE BURDEN TAKEN DOWN. THAT IS ALL. SO THERE ARE

DIFFERENT GOALS. >> DON'T NECESSARILY NEED AN ANSWER TODAY. JUST NEED DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD WHETHER YOU WANT TO SEE ROAD MAINTENANCE ITEM IN CIP OR KEEP IT BROKEN OUT. AND DETERMINE IF WE WANT TO KEEP IT BROKEN OUT .

AND IF YOU WANT TO WORK HIS PLAN LECTURING TO THE BUDGET.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE PROBABLY SOME HUNDRED THOUSAND SHORT.

>> THE THING ABOUT THIS PLAN WE HAVE, WHAT IS GOOD ABOUT IT IS I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE ARE CUTTING ANYTHING OUT OF IT.

JUST POSTPONING IT 12 MONTHS. WE ARE SAYING, OKAY, NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET TO PLANTATION OAKS ONE YEAR. THAT WILL BE OCTOBER, 2025. THAT IS THE BEAUTY OF HAVING A PLAN.

>> THAT IS THE QUESTION FOR THE BOARD ON THAT.

>> I WOULD SAY TO AVOID QUESTIONS OF PROFESSIONAL OPINIONS A SINGLE BUDGET ITEM OR A SINGLE LINE ITEM WOULD BE PREFERRED AND WHAT THE EXPERT NOT ONLY MATERIAL BUT TIMING AND CONTRACTS AND ALL OF THAT DETERMINE HOW IT IS SPENT.

>> I AGREE. >> I DISAGREE. HE'LL BE COMING UP WITH A PLAN. HE'LL BE TELLING US WHAT NUMBERS TO PUT THE WHITE CATEGORIES AND TRANSPARENCY FOR -- IF YOU LUMP IT ALL AND YOU WILL NOT KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING. HE HAS THE PLANS SO ASK FOR MONIES IN THOSE PARTICULAR CATEGORIES IS WORKED ON. MY OPINION, OBVIOUSLY. BUT ALSO I THINK WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO FIND MONEY TO IMPLEMENT THAT FIRST PLAN. THAT FIRST YEAR I WAS ON THE BOARD I ASKED FOR CHIP SEAL EVERY MONTH FOR THE SAME LIKE I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG. I WAS TOLD THAT IT WOULDN'T WORK. FINALLY, GOD BLESS RICHARD, DR.

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OF CHIP SEAL. HERE HE IS. >> I DO REMEMBER COMMISSIONER CELLA COMING TO ME BACK IN ABOUT A -- BRAGGING ABOUT A CONVENTION OR SOMETHING HE WENT TO. IN 21. VERY EARLY IN MY

TENURE. >> FOR STAY LOCKED IN THE

BUILDING, I THINK. >> WE WILL SEE. IT IS GOING TO

WORK, I THINK. WE WILL SEE. >> LET ME SAY RICHARD CAN PROVIDE THAT LIST. IT IS A PLAN.

>> IT IS RIGHT HERE. ON THIS ONE I GOT A CALL END OF DAY YESTERDAY WE WERE WORKING TOWARD 12 MILLION, GET IT DOWN TO 9.5. THE WAY I DO IT IS ON THE RESURFACING WE WILL DO SEVEN OF THOSE ROADS IN THE STREET NEIGHBORHOOD -- KNOW. WE WILL DO THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT YEAR. -- PARK, WE HAD TO DO THE DRAINAGE FIRST. THAT IS READY. $700,000. THAT IS AN EASY CUT. SAME THING WITH BIG ROADS. BIG ROADS WE CAN PUT PLANTATION OAKS DRIVE OFF ONE YEAR. OR WE CAN SAY LET'S SAVE THAT FOR NEXT YEAR. BUT IT WILL BE THE FIRST ON THE LIST. IT IS NOT LIKE A CUT. MORE LIKE A ONE-YEAR DELAY.

>> THEN A 10.3 IS WHAT RICHARD HAS IN THE BUDGET? AND WHERE IS

IT LOCATED? >> 9.5.

OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ] WE WILL MAKE WHATEVER YOU WANT TO FIT BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE 73 ROADS ARE LISTED. I KNOW WHAT THEY

ARE. >> SHOOT FOR THE 10.3. I THINK THE OTHER OPTION IS DEEP WITH IN ONE BUDGET LINE ITEM OR THREE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS

CONSENSUS ON THAT. >> CAN YOU EXPLAIN, THE REASON THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT HE CAN MOVE IT AROUND IF HE NEEDS TO. STUCK TO THOSE. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN

OPINION. >> MY UNDERSTANDING WAS -- RICHARD SAID THERE WOULD BE 73 INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS. THOSE WITH ILL APPEAR ON THE BIG LIST IN LINE ITEM FOR -- FORM. MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE ONE SINGLE LINE ITEM FOR THE BUDGET WAS SO THAT RICHARD CAN ANNUALLY BRING THAT LIST OF HOWEVER HOW MANY PROJECTS -- THIS YEAR IT IS 73. MAYBE NEXT YEAR IT IS ONLY 55 BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE LARGER ROADS -- I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS ROAD IS -- BUT AQUARIUS CONCOURSE WAS I KNOW A REALLY EXPENSIVE ONE. I AM USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. THAT WOULD TAKE MORE MONEY FROM THIS ONE WHERE HE WOULD MOVE IT AROUND. I THINK IT IS EASY TO SAY, OKAY, THAT'S YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT BOTH I GUESS. THAT WAS WHAT I WAS LEANING TOWARDS. OUR TRUSTEE HAS A PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT TO KNOW LIST TO KNOW.

FOR INSTANCE, WE'VE HAD MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SAY USED TO HAVE THE ROAD RESURFACING LIST AND ROAD PAVING LIST ONLINE. NOW I CAN'T FIND THEM ANYMORE. WELL, IT IS BECAUSE WHEN I ASKED RICHARD ABOUT IT IT IS A LARGE FILE FOR I.T. TO UPLOAD AND THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO USE THE DISCRETION OF IF THERE IS, SAY, A DRAINAGE ISSUE LIKE A PINE RIDGE WHEN WE HAD THE EMERGENCY . WE WERE AFRAID THE ROAD WAS GOING TO CAVE IN.

OBVIOUSLY THEY HAD TO BE ABLE TO TRANSFER MONEY . THE COUNTY MANAGER BROUGHT THOSE THINGS TO US, BUT I GUESS THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS I THINK OF WHEN I THINK IF YOU JUST HAS A LINE ITEM THAT SAYS THAT THERE ARE STILL ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT WILL COME TO US AND HE WILL HAVE A LINE ITEM OUT ON

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>> LINE ITEM IN THE ONE AREA, NOT IN BOTH?

>> THAT IS WHAT I WAS THINKING RICHARD WAS ASKING FOR.

>> NO, I AM ASKING FOR WHAT YOU SAID. I WILL GIVE A LIST. THE ONLY THING WILL CHANGE ON THAT LIST IS AROUND THIS TIME OF YEAR WE BALANCE OUR CHECKBOOK. SEE WHAT WE HAVE LEFT OVER.

THIS YEAR WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT LEFT OVER BECAUSE WE HAD MIDSEASON SHIFT, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO -- WE FOUND $973,000 FROM EITHER OUR ESTIMATES E- THE ESTIMATES OF TONNAGE. DIDN'T HAVE TO BUT THAT MANY DOWN BECAUSE WE DIDN'T PAY THEM A LUMP SUM BEFORE THE START. PAY THEM BASED ON HOW MANY TONS OF ASPHALT A PLACE.

THIS WAY ABLE TO GO UP IN THE VILLAGE SQUARE FROM -- HIGH SCHOOL DOWN TO CLAY BAPTIST. ABOUT ONE TO 17. THE EAGLE HARBOR PARKWAY FROM 17 TO AMENITY CENTER. BELMONT UP IN ORANGE PARK AND LOCK RAIN AND A COUPLE OF OTHERS. THAT WE DO HAPPEN ON THIS. I MAY BE ABLE -- WITH $12 MILLION WE CAN DO

PLANTATION OAKS PARK. >> I THINK WE ARE GETTING INTO THE WEEDS DIFFERENTLY. REALLY YOU HAVE ROAD RESURFACING, DIRT ROAD PAVING, MILLINGS. IF WE GET TO THE POINT HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR AND RICHARD HAS DONE A GREAT JOB AND SAVE MONEY ON RESURFACING AND HE NEEDS TO MOVE THAT SHE WANTS TO PAVE ANOTHER ROAD RIGHT NOW THE ONLY WAY FOR HIM TO MOVE MONEY FROM ROAD SURFACING OR VICE VERSA IS TO COME TO A CIP CHANGE, ADVERTISE THE CIP CHANGE INTO THE CIP CHANGE.

WHEREAS IF ONE PROJECT WAS UNDER IN ONE'S OVERT MOVE MONEY FROM ROAD SURFACING TO REPAVING OR MILLING RIGHT NOW HE HAS TO COME TO YOU TO ASK TO DO THAT. IF HE NEEDS TO MOVE MONEY BETWEEN ROAD RESURFACING AND ROAD PAVING HE COULD DO THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD ALL BE ONE LINE ITEM IN THE CIP. THAT

IS WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO. >> WHAT WAS THE PRACTICING OF

THE CHECK BALANCE? >> IF YOU GO BACK THROUGH HISTORY THE COUNTY HAD A RESURFACING BUDGET. NEVER REALLY ATE PAVING OR MILLING BUDGET. COMMISSIONER CONDON PUSHED REALLY HARD FOR . ROAD PAVING SO THAT BECAME ANOTHER LINE ITEM TO TRACK IT. THERE WAS A HISTORY WHERE EVERYONE WANTED TO SEE THAT ROAD RESURFACING NUMBER INCREASE EVERY YEAR. IT IS ALL PERCEPTION OR BUDGET CONTROL.

THERE ARE PROS AND CONS TO BOTH. IN MY OPINION NEITHER ONE -- THAT IS NOT REALLY A RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER. THERE IS TRANSPARENCY. TWO -- DOES ALLOW FOR EFFICIENCIES. THERE ARE PROS AND CONS TO BOTH. IT IS YOUR BUDGET WHICH IS WHY WE ARE ASKING YOU FOR DIRECTION BECAUSE YOU ARE THE ONES THAT DANCE AT THE END OF THE DAY TO CONSTITUENTS.

>> BUT IT WILL STILL BE PROJECT BASED.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS CLEAR, WE DO NOT BREAK OUT THOSE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS IN OUR BUDGET.

OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ] THEY ARE ALL UNDERNEATH ONE PROJECT NUMBER SO IT IS ONE FUNDING STREAM AS FAR AS THE BOARD'S PERSPECTIVE ON HOW IT IS ENTERED IN THE BUDGET. WE DO NOT ENTER INTO THE BUDGET WHEN WE DO A LINE ITEM BUDGET WE DO NOT DO 75 DIFFERENT PROJECTS FOR THE 75 ROADS. WE PUT THEM INTO EITHER THREE PROJECTS OR ONE PROJECT AT A FUNDING LEVEL.

BEHIND-THE-SCENES, YES, PURCHASING MANAGEMENT MIXERS INAUDIBLE ] LIST TO APPROVE AND ADOPT. THAT IS THE POINT. YOU ARE ADOPTING OR PROVING THAT 73, 75 RICHARD BRINGS TO YOU.

>> WANT TO PUT ON THIS QUICK AND EASY AS POSSIBLE FROM THE

BUDGET PERSPECTIVE. >> TO HELP US ON THIS IS THE 250 JOB. ONE CONTRACTOR BECAUSE WE ARE ABLE TO ADD SOME LINE ITEMS. THE CONTRACTOR WILL USE HIS EQUIPMENT TO PULL THE MATERIAL OFF OF 215, HAVE ANOTHER CREW SITTING ON PRODIGAL, GOPHER, CHICORY. THOSE MILLIONS WILL BE MADE PROBABLY THE SAME DAY THEY COME OFF OF THE ASPHALT ROAD. LAID ON THE DIRT ROAD AND -- SEE YOU GET TO ROADS IMPROVED IN A WEEK. AND IT IS TOUGH FOR US -- AND MAKES IT EASY BECAUSE IF

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MILLING. >> IS THAT POSTED FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE? IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TRANSPARENCY E- IF THEY CAN SEE WHAT PAUL -- PROJECTS ARE DONE THEN FINE.

>> WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE AS I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT LIST AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WHEN YOU . THE BUDGET OR YOU SOMEHOW PROVE THAT LIST AND THAT LIST CAN BE PUBLISHED WHEREVER YOU WANT IT. WITH YOU DO THEORY LINES ARE ONE LINE IN THE CIP IS THE TRANSPARENCY OF WHAT PROJECTS YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT IS WHERE YOU WOULD SAY THIS IS OUR PROPOSED LIST OF INDIVIDUAL ROADS FOR THIS YEAR. IT IS NOT AN ANSWER WE NEED TODAY. WE HAVE DIRECTION TRIPE OF THE 700,002 CIP. WE CAN COME BACK TO THE DISCUSSION , LET YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT IF YOU WANT THREE LINES OR ONE LINES. IT IS NOT A DECISION I NEED TODAY FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH THE BUDGET. IN THE INTEREST OF TIME ARE WE GOOD TO KEEP GOING? ALL RIGHT. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR PARKS AND MIKE. NUMBERS BASED ON WHERE WE PROJECT IMPACT FEES COMING IN THAT MATCHUP TO THE COUNTY REVENUE. A FEW ADJUSTMENTS ON THE NUMBERS AND PUTTING THEM INTO THE RIGHT YEARS. NEXT PAGE. YOU WILL SEE A BUNCH OF GREEN BOXES. THAT IS WHERE WE REMOVE MONEY FROM THE CIP FOR THE FIRE STATIONS AND MOVED IT TO THE BOND AS BOND EXPENSES.

THE NEXT PAGE, -- TOWER, WE MOVED OUT TO THE BOND. NEXT PAGE IS CIP PLAN. ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IS ADDING OAKLEAF LIBRARY. ADDING OAKLEAF LIBRARY INTO THE CIP.

NEXT PAGE, AGAIN, THE IMPACT FEES FOR THE DISTRICT PARKS HAVE BEEN ADJUSTED BASED ON WHAT WE PROJECT TO BE THE IMPACT FEES COMING IN. YOU WILL SEE THE FIRE FEE TRANSFERRED IN RED. MONEY TRANSFERRED OUT OF THE IMPACT FEE TO PAY FOR THE BOND, THAT SERVICE. GREEN LINES ARE WHERE WE MOVED FIRE STATIONS OUT OF THE FACILITY BUDGET. THE NEXT LINE IS YOUR MOBILITY FEES, IMPACT FEES FOR ROADS. IMPACT FEES AND CURRENT MOBILITY FEES. NO CHANGES ON THAT PAGE. THE INFRASTRUCTURE BOND THE NEXT ONE WHICH IS YOUR BONDED ROAD PROJECTS. NO CHANGES THERE AT THIS TIME. THE NEXT PAGE IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY BOND. THIS IS WHERE WE DOLLARS INTO THE BUDGET FOR THE FIRE STATIONS AND THE RADIO TOWER. THIS IS A NEW SLIDE. THEY HAVE THE UPDATED NUMBERS I THINK DISCUSSED WITH ALL OF YOU THAT GO DOWN TO THE ACTUAL CONTRACT PRICES. I FAILED ON THE NEXT PAGE TO CHANGE THE TITLE. I APOLOGIZE. THIS SHOULD BE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, OTHER PROJECTS IN CIP. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT TITLE CHANGE. THESE ARE YOUR OTHER PROJECTS.

TALKING ABOUT SOLID WASTE TRANSFER PATIENT, BUILDING DEPARTMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT. THE NEXT PAGE TO PUT THE TITLE AT THE BOTTOM BECAUSE THE SCREEN GOT TO BED. GRANT FUNDED PROJECTS IN CIP. JUST SHOWING YOU THE GRANT EXPENSES. THAT IS

THE NEXT PAGE. >> IS SIDEWALK -- ELEMENTARY NOT A GRANT? I THOUGHT IT WAS A SAFE SCHOOLS GRANT?

[4.  ARPA]

>> IT IS. IT'S ON HERE. NO CHANGE TO IT.

>> OKAY. >> THEN WE GET INTO ARPA.

BEFORE WE GET TOO DEEP INTO ARPA THERE WAS A CHANGE RECENTLY THAT WAS FINALLY APPROVED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TALKING ABOUT THE DEADLINE FOR ARPA PROJECTS.

ALWAYS SAID 12, 31, 2024 MUST BE DONE. THE JAIL IS WHERE THIS COMES INTO PLAY. AS LONG AS SOMETHING IS UNDER CONTRACT BY 12/31/2024 IT CAN EXTEND TO 12/31/2026. WE MAKE SURE I GET

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WE'VE UPDATED ARPA. SEE ALL THE PROJECTS IN YELLOW.

KEYSTONE PROJECT MOVING OUT OF ARPA BACK TO CIP SINCE THEY STILL HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH PERMITTING AND THINGS HERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT DOWN THERE. OTHER PROJECTS EITHER GET -- LOOKS LIKE I DUPLICATED THAT PAGE. I APOLOGIZE. YOU WILL SEE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT RENOVATIONS ARE FINISHED UP.

THAT NUMBER HAS BEEN ADJUSTED. YOU WILL SEE THE OTHER ARPA PROJECTS AS YOU GO DOWN SUCH AS ACORN CHASE WHERE WE'VE ADJUSTED THOSE NUMBERS . WE'VE ADJUSTED THOSE NUMBERS BASED ON THE ACTUALS OF THE EXPENSE FOR THE DRAINAGE PROJECT. KNOCKED OUT A LOT OF DRAINAGE PROJECTS. ONE MORE SLIDE. HE WILL SEE WHERE WE ARE AT IN ARPA. BASED ON ADJUSTMENTS MADE ALL OF THE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN CHEWED UP. ALL OF THE NUMBERS IN, TO THE JAIL BACK WITH A COMPLETION DATE OF NO LATER THAN 12/31.

THE CURRENT FUNDING YOU HAVE LEFT TO SPEND ON ARPA IS A LITTLE MORE THAN $2 MILLION. I'VE LISTED OUT SOME PROJECTS I HAVE COME UP FROM STAFF LEVEL . THERE MAY BE OTHER THINGS YOU WANT TO FACTOR IN. WE HAD A PROJECT WE WANTED TO DO FOR OPERATING THE CAMERAS IN THE LIBRARIES, ABOUT $356,000. THAT IS A HARD NUMBER.

THREATS. THERE IS A DEVICE WE COULD BUY WE WOULD LIKE TO TO ADD TO OUR ENVIRONMENT THAT IS ABOUT 150,000. THE NEXT FOUR ARE DRAINAGE RELATED PROJECTS. I WILL DEFER TO RICHARD OR EARL IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THOSE FOUR. THOSE ARE USING CURRENT CONTRACT PRICING. THOSE NUMBERS ESTIMATE A LITTLE HIGH. PRETTY FIRM NUMBERS, BUT OPERABLY ATTACHED THEY WOULD NOT EXCEED THOSE NUMBERS. IT WOULD COME IN A LITTLE UNDER THOSE NUMBERS.

THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION ON THE PIECE OF PROPERTY AND CALEB IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT IF YOU LIKE. A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT MAY GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND BOAT RAMP PARKING AT KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. THERE IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY PUT UP FOR SALE RECENTLY ADJOINING WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE PROPERTY. ALL THOSE PROJECTS ABOUT 2.2 MILLION. I THINK IT WILL COME IN LOWER THAN ON SOME PROJECTS. THAT 350 A BALLPARK BASED ON THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW SO IT MAY COME IN HIGHER THAN THAT, LOWER THAN THAT. TOOK THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY, ADDED A LITTLE BIT OF CUSHION.

>>

ISN'T DONE BY 2026. >> THE ARCHITECT AS WELL AS CONTRACTOR. CURRENT STATUS WINNING -- WAITING ON THE CONTRACTOR TO GIVE US FACTS AND FIGURES EARMARKING $2 MILLION, I THINK. WHAT ARE WE EARMARKING FOR THE

JAIL EXPANSION? 1.7? >> AND HE WOULD STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE YEAR TO REALLOCATE THAT MONEY. IF WE GET ANOTHER PROJECT UNDER CONTRACT. I DO NOT WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE LEGAL TEAM OR FACILITIES, BUT I WOULD ASSUME BEFORE NOVEMBER YOU WILL KNOW WHERE WE ARE GOING.

>> WE HOPE TO KNOW WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.

>> HOPEFUL. >> OPTIMISTIC, SIR.

>> BETTER THAN HOPEFUL. I JUST WANT TO SAY IT IS NOT SCORPIO.

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THAT IS WHO EMAILED ABOUT THE PROPERTY ON FIFTH STREET IN KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. SENT IT TO ALL OF US. EMAIL THE CONGRESSMAN. THE GOVERNOR. EVERYONE HE COULD. I'M SURE YOU PROBABLY SAW THAT ORIGINAL EMAIL. I RESPONDED BACK TO HIM.

HE AND I ARE GOING TO MEET IN PERSON TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES.

JUSTIN AND KIMBERLY AND CALEB HAVE BEEN TAKING A LOOK AT THAT. I THINK IT WOULD BE FROM USE OF THE BOAT RAMP AND TOURISM PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE KIMBERLY -- LIKE WHEN IT WAS IN ITS HEYDAY WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL BE BACK TO IN ABOUT TWO YEARS.

THE BASS FISHING CAPITAL OF THE AREA. I THINK SHE WOULD LIKE TO TRY AND ATTRACT SOME OF THOSE THINGS. CURRENTLY NOT AS MUCH PARKING BUT THE OTHER THING THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR IS WITH NOT TOO MUCH RENOVATION RESTROOMS AND MEETING SPACE THAT COULD BE LEASED OUT. SO I THINK WOULD OFFER AN OPPORTUNITY THERE MAY REGRET IF WE DON'T TAKE IT.

SOMEONE WILL BUY IT. TODAY IF YOU SEE IT GO TO THE FRONT YARD AND IT IS FENCED IN. IT IS A BIG SAND AREA BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN SO TORN UP WITH ALL THE TRUCKS ON THE LAKEBED. THAT WILL BE WATER. SO IT WILL BE A WATERFRONT PROPERTY RIGHT AT OUR BOAT RAMP IF WE PASS IT UP. I DON'T HAVE PICTURES, BUT I

CAN GET THEM. >> COUNTY REAL ESTATE ACQUISITIONS MANAGER. THERE IS THE PARCEL THERE IN YELLOW COMMISSIONER CONDON IS REFERENCING. YOU SEE WHAT USED TO BE CONNECTED TO LAKE GENEVA. THE WHOLE POND AT THE CORNER THERE. WE OWN A PARCEL RIGHT ACROSS FROM -- PARCEL RIGHT THERE. THE REST OF THAT PRETTY MUCH BETWEEN US AND THOSE TWO PARCELS IS OWNED BY THE STATE. THIS IS LOOKING FROM OUR PARCEL ACROSS TO THE PARCEL SHE IS REFERENCING. SMALL HOME THERE AND SHED AN OFFENSE. THE BOAT RAMP WOULD BE GOING FROM LEFT TO RIGHT BACK OUT THERE. SEE THE POND. AS MENTIONED, THE WATER HOPEFULLY WITHIN TWO YEARS WOULD COME BACK UP TO THE BOAT RAMP. RIGHT NOW IT IS CUT OFF FROM THE REST OF THE LAKE.

ONLY HAS ACCESS TO THAT LITTLE POND. THIS IS LOOKING NORTH DOWN THE STREET. YOU SEE THIS HOUSE THERE. THE SHOT IN THE FENCED AREA. TALKING TO JUSTIN AND KIMBERLY, LOOKING AT POTENTIAL TO ADD PARKING FOR THE BOAT RAMP. DO SOME BIGGER FISHING TOURNAMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. JUST LOOKING AT THAT SPACE IN THE POTENTIAL OF DOING SOMETHING WITH THE HOUSE AND MAYBE TRANSITION THAT TO A BAIT SHOP OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF ENTITY TO SUPPORT THE BOAT RAMP. IN THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD EVERYTHING AROUND THE LAKE RIGHT NOW UP TO THE PARCEL IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF HIS PARCEL SO WE PROBABLY WANT TO TALK WITH HIM AS WELL ABOUT TRYING TO PARTNER IN SOME FASHION TO

EXTEND. >> THE IDEA IS IT IS UNDERWATER. THAT IS THE THING WE TALK ABOUT. WE DON'T WANT TO DO TOO MUCH BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW FAR THE WATER WILL POTENTIALLY COME BACK UP IN THAT AREA. WE REALLY WANT TO TAKE A CLOSE WORK

TO THIS POINT. >> IT PROBABLY WILL ON THE SIDES. IN FRONT OF HIS PROPERTY IT DID.

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>> THAT WAS SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY TALK ABOUT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE BEFORE SO WE DON'T KNOW HOW FAR THE WATER WILL COME BACK. IT IS A SMALLER PARCEL. THINK .2 OR .3 AND ACTUALLY LOOKS BIGGER ON HERE. PROBABLY A LITTLE LARGER THAN THE PARCEL. BUT WOULD HAVE TO SURVEY THAT.

DOES THAT KIND OF ANSWER QUESTION ABOUT WHERE IT'S AT,

WHAT WERE DOING? >> THESE ARE POSSIBLE PROJECTS.

IF THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE US TO EXPLORE OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO BRING BACK TO TRIM FOR THE PROJECTS WE WANT IN THE AUGUST MEETING. IF THERE ARE THINGS YOU LIKE TO TALK OFF-LINE OR WITH STAFF LET US KNOW SO WE

CAN PLAN ACCORDINGLY. >> ON YOUR I.T. BUDGET SIDE THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT CYBERSECURITY. DOES THIS

APPLIANCE TAKE AWAY THAT? >> NO. IN ADDITION TO. I WAS CORRECTED BY THE COUNTY MANAGER. VIDEO ARPA IN THE AGENDA . IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS AND VOTE ON ARPA TONIGHT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY OR WE CAN THIS EVENING TO SAY, NO, WE DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT. IF THERE ARE CERTAIN PROJECTS YOU WANT US TO MOVE FORWARD ON ESPECIALLY THE DRAINAGE ONE WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW SOONER THAN LATER BECAUSE ALL OF OUR CONTRACTORS ARE KIND OF AT MAX CAPACITY SO WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THE DRAINAGE ONCE IF THAT IS THE BOARD'S DIRECTION.

BUT, AGAIN, WE CAN TALK WITHOUT BETWEEN NOW AND THE BOARD

[5.  Next Steps - Dates]

>> OKAY. >> MIXED LIVE. SPEAKING OF TONIGHT, THE MAIN OBJECTIVE TONIGHT IS SETBACK AND MILLAGE.

EVERYTHING WE WORKED ON SO FAR TODAY WAS TO COMFORTABLY SET THE MAX MILLAGE. WE WOULD ASK TO SET THE MAX MILLAGE AT THE EXISTING MILLAGE RATE, 8.601. YOU WILL BE ASKED TO MAKE THREE DIFFERENT VOTES TONIGHT. ONE FOR REQUESTING A MAJORITY VOTE FOR THE INCREASING TAXABLE VALUE IN THOSE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.

BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE -- BUT TO MAINTAIN THE 3.0. I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT BEFORE TONIGHT. SLIDE. MAINLY DUE TO THE CHANGE IN HOW THE SOFTWARE WORKS. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE TO DO THREE VOTES VERSUS WHAT WE NORMALLY DO. UPCOMING MEETINGS. SET THE MAX MILLAGE TONIGHT AND THEN WE HAVE SET THE TWO MEETINGS WHICH WILL BE SEPTEMBER 10TH AND SEPTEMBER 24TH FOR THE FINAL HEARINGS OF THE BUDGET. WITH ÚTE 70 SOME PAGE STAFF REPORT.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNTY MANAGER, STAFF? WHAT IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF THIS BUDGET? 750? 770? AT A 20 MILLION MORE SINCE I TALKED TO YOU LAST. SIGNIFICANT. A LOT OF MOVING PARTS. A LOT OF THOUGHT HAS GONE INTO THIS. WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE ALL THE STAFF IN TIME. ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT VEHICLES. I'M A 57 CHEVY GUY. 70 YEARS OLD AND STILL ON THE STREET IF YOU JUST MAINTAIN THEM. THE ISSUE IS MAINTENANCE.

TO KEEP IT ON THE STREET. NONETHELESS, WHEN YOU BUY A NEW VEHICLE THE DAY YOU DRIVE IT OFF THE LOT IS NOT NEW ANYMORE.

SO HAVE TO MAKE ALL OF THOSE DECISIONS AND WHAT IS BEST FOR

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