Jun 11, 2024 BCC Agenda

[INVOCATION]

[CALL TO ORDER]

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>> PLEASE TAKE OUR SEATS PLEASE AND WE WILL OPEN THE MEETING WITH THE THAT INVOCATION BY COMMISSIONER BURKE. PLEASE RISE

IF YOU CAN. >> LET US PRAY. DEAR LORD, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE STATE. THANK YOU FOR JUST BRING US HERE IN THIS BEAUTIFUL COUNTY THAT WE LIVE IN. LORD, PLEASE PRAY A SPECIAL PRAYER FOR THE INJURED WORKER THAT WAS INJURED TODAY AND IS IN THE HOSPITAL AND WE JUST PRAY THAT YOU WILL BE WITH HIM. THESE LET HIM HEAL AND LET THE DOCTORS HAVE A HEALING HAND ON HIM AND ALSO WITH HIS FAMILY, PLEASE PROTECT THEM. LORD, JUST PRAY THAT YOU WILL HELP US TODAY TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE. WE LOVE OUR COUNTY AND WE WANT TO MAKE IT EVEN BETTER AND I JUST PRAY THAT YOU WILL HELP US OUGHT TO BE PATIENT AND JUST KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO DO THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND WE JUST NEED TO BE ABLE TO SLOW DOWN AND BE MINDFUL OF ALL THOSE THAT ARE WORKING. PLEASE, LORD, HELP US TO MAKE THOSE RIGHT DECISIONS TONIGHT THAT WOULD AFFECT SO MUCH THAT HAPPENS IN OUR COUNTY. PLEASE BE WITH ALL OF THE FIRST RESPONDERS, ALL OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, ALL OF OUR MILITARY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THEM AND PRAY THAT YOU PUT A HAND OF PROTECTION AROUND THEM.

BE WITH OUR FAMILIES. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BLESSING US SO MUCH AND THINK YOU FOR BEING HERE. IN JESUS'S NAME, AMEN.

>> AMEN. >> YOU CAN TAKE YOUR SEATS, PLEASE. THIS EVENING, WE'RE CERTAINLY HONORED TO HAVE A MEMBER OF THE GREATEST GENERATION, PETTY OFFICER OF THIRD CLASS, ROBERT ROLAND POWERS. AND HE WAS BORN IN CLARKSVILLE, TENNESSEE. I AM GOING TO READ. JUNE 13TH, 1924.

SO IF YOU DO YOUR MATH, MIDDLEBURG MATH, YOU CAN SEE HE IS JUST ABOUT A CENTURY IN HERE. A COUPLE MORE DAYS HERE.

BACK DURING WORLD WAR II, PEARL HARBOR HAPPENED THE SAME YEAR HE GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL. SO HE AND HIS YOUNGER BROTHER AND TWO FRIENDS ALL JOINED THE MILITARY TOGETHER. THEY ALL ENDED UP IN DIFFERENT SERVICES. AND ROBERT JOINED THE NAVY, WHERE HE BECAME A MEMBER OF THE NET ESTATES NAVAL CONSTRUCTION BATTALION. HE BEGAN HIS SERVICE OF JULY, 1943 AND WAS HONORABLY DISCHARGED. AFTER WORLD WAR II, YOU GRADUATED AND MARRIED HIS WIFE, PAT. HE WORKED AS AN ACCOUNTANT IN 1990 AND HE LOVED TO SING AT WEDDINGS AND FUNERALS DURING HIS FREE TIME.

HE SANG IN CHOIRS AT MENTORING CHRISTIAN CHURCH , BAY MEADOWS BAPTIST CHURCH AND UNIVERSITY BAPTIST CHURCH. SO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND TO BE HERE WITH US THIS EVENING AND IF YOU COULD HONOR US BY DOING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE

FLAG. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> AND IF YOU COULD JOIN US UP HERE, WE WILL TAKE SOME PHOTOS UP FRONT.

>> ARE THERE ANY FAMILY MEMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE IN THE

PHOTOS? >>

SPEAKERS ] >> HE HAS JOINED US HERE WITH HIS FAMILY AND RON, HIS SON, ALSO HAS A DISTINGUISHED CAREER IN THE UNITED STATES NAVY SO, IF YOU COULD INTRODUCE YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBERS THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> WHERE IS MY DAUGHTERS? MY FATHER AND SON-IN-LAW. AND THE REST OF THE FAMILY IS BACK THERE.

>> I DO WANT TO ADD, I WAS A MARINE.

>> A MARINE. >> THEY FORGIVE YOU FOR THAT.

>> SOUP ONE A ONE-WORD TWO VETERAN AND IT IS AN HONOR THAT YOU CAN BE WITH US TONIGHT. LET'S TAKE A COUPLE OF PHOTOS.

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>> APPRECIATION FOR HONORING US WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE MIC IS YOURS.

>> THANK YOU . IS I'M GLAD TO BE HERE. IN FACT, I AM GLAD TO

BE ANYWHERE HERE. >> ONE

>> A CENTURY AND. THAT IS 100 YEARS. ANYWAYS, IT HAS BEEN A WONDERFUL LIFE AND I AM THANKFUL THAT I LIVED THROUGH THE GREATEST GENERATION . PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE WHAT WENT ON BACK THEN DURING THE DEPRESSION AND WE ATE WHAT WE GREW AND EVERYBODY GOT ALONG AND WE HAD WONDERFUL TIMES. IT WAS HARD TIMES BUT WE ALL STUCK TOGETHER . WE WERE PRACTICING A QUARTET ON DECEMBER THE SEVENTH, '41. IT WAS FOUR BOYS AND WE EACH SAID WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO THE SERVICES ALTOGETHER AND GO AND LET THE SOLOMONS. DO YOU REMEMBER THE

SOLOMONS? >>

>> GOING TOGETHER . ONE WENT IN THE AIR FORCE. ONE WENT IN THE ARMY. I WENT IN THE CBS BUT HAD NO IDEA WHAT THE CBS MEN. THE LAST THING THEY TOLD ME ON THE BUS. SHE SAID, YOU JOINED THE

NAVY AND YOU CAN'T SWIM. >>

>> SHE SAID, I HAVE NO IDEA. ANYWAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND

FOR BEING HERE. >>

>> I WILL TELL YOU ONE OTHER THING. WE WERE IN THE HOSPITAL RECENTLY AND DOCTORS PASSED VERY WELL. AND DAD SAYS,

YOUNGER OR OLDER? >>

>> I AM JUST KIDDING. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I

APPRECIATE IT. >> SPEAKERS ]

>> LET ME CALL THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING TO ORDER FOR JUNE 11TH, 2024. I CAN SEE ALL FIVE COMMISSIONERS

[PET ADOPTIONS]

INTO PET ADOPTIONS. >> OUR FIRST OFF TODAY IS ROCKY. NEUTERED MALE. MIXED BREED APPEARED TWO YEARS OLD AND WEIGHS 30 POUNDS. MEET ROCKY. GOOGLE BULLDOG BEAGLE MIX. ROCKY GETS ALONG WELL WITH OTHER DOGS THOUGH HE IS ESPECIALLY ENJOYS THE COMPANY OF DOG SAVVY FEMALE DOGS. THIS CHARMING BOY LOVES PEOPLE AND IS ALWAYS EAGER TO BE WHEREVER YOU ARE MAKING HIM A LOYAL AND DEVOTED COMPANION. ROCKY'S LOVE FOR TREATS MAKES HIM AN EAGER LEARNER AND HE IS ALWAYS UP FOR A BIT OF TRAINING OR GOOD OLD-FASHIONED SPOILING. IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A FRIENDLY AND AFFECTIONATE DOG WHO WILL BE YOUR CONSTANT SHADOW AND BEST FRIEND, ROCKY IS THE PERFECT MATCH. COME MEET ROCKY TODAY AND SEE HOW QUICKLY HE WILL WIN YOUR HEART. NEXT, WE HAVE RALPHIE. NEUTERED MALE.

MIXED BREED TWO YEARS OLD AND WEIGHS SIX POUNDS. MEET RALPHIE, THE OXIME IT IS PUP WHO WAS READY TO FIND HIS FOREVER HOME. RALPHIE IS FULL OF PUPPY ENERGY AND CURIOSITY

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ASTRID. SEVEN YEARS OLD. MEET ASTRID. THE INDEPENDENT SEVEN-YEAR YOUNG CAT WITH A SPIRIT FOR ADVENTURE. ASTRID WOULD MUCH PREFER THE FREEDOM AND EXCITEMENT OF BEING A BARN CAT RATHER THAN A HOUSE CAT. SHE THRIVES IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE SHE CAN EXPLORE, HUNT, AND HUNT TO HER HEART'S CONTENT. WHILE SHE MAY NOT BE A TYPICAL LAPTOP, ASTRID WOULD BRING HER UNIQUE HARM CHARMING YOU'RE BORN. HELPING IT KEEP IT FREE OF PESTS AND ADDING A FELINE GRACE. IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A BARN CAT LOOKING TO EMBRACE HER NATURAL INSTINCTS AND ENJOY THE GREAT OUTDOORS, ASTRID IS THE PERFECT MATCH. COME MEET ASTRID TODAY AND GIVE HER THE FREEDOM FILLED LIFE SHE HAS BEEN LONGING FOR. AND LASTLY, THEY WANT TO REMIND US THAT IT IS KITTEN SEASON AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR FOSTERS. AND

THAT COMPLETES PET ADOPTIONS. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HOPEFULLY, WE WILL CLEAR OUT SOME OF THE CAGES AT THE ANIMAL CONTROL AND MAKE ROOM FOR OTHERS. IF THE COMMISSION

[1.  Amateur Radio Week (June 17-23, 2024)]

WEEK. >> EXCUSE ME.

>> THIS EVENING, WE HAVE ONE PROCLAMATION ON THE AGENDA, TO RECOGNIZE AMATEUR RADIO WEEK, WHICH GOES FROM JUNE 17TH TO THE 23RD. AMATEUR RADIO OPERATORS ARE CELEBRATING MORE THAN A CENTURY A BROADCAST OVER THE AIRWAYS WE HONOR THEIR DEDICATED SERVICE AND VALUABLE PARTNERSHIPS IN FLORIDA, ESPECIALLY DURING HURRICANE SEASON WHEN THEY STEP UP TO ENSURE CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH EMERGENCY MANAGERS THROUGHOUT ALL THE COMMUNITIES HERE IN FLORIDA. WE HAVE SCOTT ROBERTS HERE, ASSISTANT EMERGENCY COORDINATOR WITH CLAY COUNTY'S AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE TO HELP US WITH THIS PROCLAMATION. SCOTT'S ORGANIZATION IS AFFILIATED WITH SKY WORN, A PROGRAM OF THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE. HE IS ALSO A MEMBER OF THE AMATEUR RADIO RELAY LEAGUE AND NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR AMATEUR RELAY RADIO, . I CAN SAY, I HONESTLY HAD THE PLEASURE OR THE EXPERIENCE OF USING AMATEUR RADIO ON A LARGE STATION ON AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER. THIS WAS BEFORE CELL TOWERS AND SATELLITE RADIOS , WHICH WAS HF, I THINK. HIGH-FREQUENCY SIGNAL WHICH BOUNCES OFF THE IONOSPHERE AND BOUNCES AROUND THE WORLD SEVERAL TIMES AND SOMEONE OUT AN ANTENNA AND CATCHES IT. BUT IT WAS A CONNECTION WITH MY FAMILY DURING THE BIRTH OF ONE MY KIDS THAT UP TO MY POINT, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY COMMUNICATION. SNAIL MAIL DOESN'T WORK THAT WELL. I CAN ATTEST TO THAT. SO, MARS HELPED ME OUT A LONG TIME AGO. WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, WE WILL

READ THE PROCLAMATION. >> WHEREAS OP READERS OF AMATEUR RADIO, ALSO KNOWN AS HAM RADIO ARE CELEBRATING MORE THAN A CENTURY OF VOICE, DATA, AND PICTURE TRANSMISSION OVER THE AIRWAYS TO LOCATIONS ACROSS THE GLOBE WITHOUT INTERNET OR CELL PHONE NETWORKS, AND WHEREAS AMATEUR RADIO OPERATORS PROVIDE A BRIDGE BETWEEN PEOPLE, SOCIETIES AND COUNTRIES AND DELIVER COUNTLESS HOURS OF FREE, SELF-SUPPORTING RADIO COMMUNICATIONS FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND ORGANIZATIONS DURING DISASTER AND POST DISASTER SITUATIONS. AND PREPLANNED NONEMERGENCY EVENTS AND CHARITABLE ACTIVITIES AND WHEREAS CLAY COUNTY AND HIS MS. PAWLEYS RECOGNIZED IN VALUABLE SERVICE PROVIDED BY AMATEUR RADIO IS TO OUR EMERGENCY

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FAVOR? >> AYE.

>> OF COURSE, UNANIMOUS. SCOTT, I SAW Y'ALL OF COURSE AT BREAKFAST. THEY PACKED UP THIS RESTAURANT SO HOW MANY ARE

THERE? >> WE HAVE 25 YEAR THIS WEEK AT BREAKFAST. SO THAT CLUB MEETS ONCE A MONTH AT NICOLE POLSKY AND THEN WE HAVE GOT ANOTHER CLUB THAT MEETS ONCE A MONTH AT A LOCAL CHURCH FOR OUR MEETINGS. AND I'M GLAD YOU WERE READING THAT TO DATE INSTEAD OF ME BECAUSE I WOULD'VE STUMBLED OVER ALL THOSE WORDS.

>>

>> WE USE HF. AROUND HERE LOCALLY, IT IS DUPLE METER AND WE ARE GOING TO BE OUT AT CAMP CHAWENWA DEMONSTRATING WHAT WE CAN DO. IT IS OUT BY THE PAVILION AND THE MUSEUMS OUT THERE AND WE SET UP IN THE FIELD. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE EVERYONE COME OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE DOING.

>> OKAY. GREAT. >> I JUST WANT TO TAKE A SECOND TO ECHO WHAT THE COMMISSIONERS. WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS PARTNERSHIP WITH ARIES. I HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING AROUND SCOTT AND THEY PUT IN COUNTLESS AMOUNT OF VOLUNTEER HOURS, PRE-STORM, POST-STORM, GETTING THE CAPABILITIES THAT WE NEED AS A BACKUP RADIO SYSTEM FOR WHEN WE LOSE CELL, RADIO, AND OTHER MEANS THAT WE TYPICALLY TAKE FOR GRANTED . SO I HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH THEM AND IT IS A VALUED PARTNER FOR OUR SHELTERS AND FACILITIES SO, SCOTT, THANK

YOU. >>

>> SCOTT IS OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT &, DASH, DASH, DASH,

.,.IS. >>

>> IF I REALIZE ONE OF THOSE IS GOING TO WORK, I THINK SO.

>>

[2.  National Mosquito Control Awareness Week (June 20-26, 2024)]

>> WE HAVE ONE DECLARATION THIS EVENING. IT IS A DECLARATION FOR MOSQUITO CONTROL AWARENESS WEEK. BEING IN FLORIDA, THAT IS AN ISSUE. LAST FISCAL YEAR, THE CLAY COUNTY MOSQUITO CONTROL PROGRAM TREATED 135 ACRES OF RURAL AND URBAN PROPERTY COUNTRYWIDE UTILIZING EFFECTIVE AND ENVIRONMENTALLY SAFE MOSQUITO CONTROL PRACTICES SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO LOOK AT OUR WEBSITE TODAY. IT IS NOT CLAYCOUNTYGOVERNMENT.COM .

[3.  Tax Deed Sale Process (T. Green)]

>> THANK YOU. SO, THIS IS FROM A CONVERSATION FROM A COUPLE BOARD MEETINGS AGO WHEN THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON TAX DEED SALES AND HOW THEY WORK AND I COULD TELL THERE IS LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO WALK THROUGH A HIGH-LEVEL EXERCISE AND THEN SHOW YOU WHAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO DECIDE TO BID AND ULTIMATELY

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OKAY. BASICALLY, WHAT HAPPENS IS THE TAX CERTIFICATE SALES ARE CONDUCT DID THROUGH THEIR FFICE. THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE, WHEN THE TAX IS BECOME DELINQUENT. THAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS ON OR BEFORE OF JUNE 1ST OF THE PRECEDING YEAR'S REAL ESTATE TAXES. SO I AM GOING TO GIVE MINE. THIS IS JUST A PURCHASE OF THE TAX ON THE PROPERTY AT THIS POINT.

THEN, IF THE TAX CERTIFICATE OLDER, THEY CAN APPLY FOR TAX SALE AFTER A MINIMUM OF TWO YEARS UP TO A MAXIMUM OF SEVEN YEARS HOLDING THAT CERTIFICATE. ANY TIME BETWEEN THE SECOND YEAR IN THE SEVENTH YEAR, THEY CAN REQUEST THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY TO CERTIFY SATISFY THE ADJUSTED TO IT. THE APPLICATION FOR THAT TAX DETAIL IS INITIATED WITHIN THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE AND TRANSMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND WE PREPARE AND CONDUCT THE SALE. SO STARTING WITH THIS FLOW, THIS IS WHERE IT STARTS IN MY OFFICE. ONCE THE APPLICATION IS MADE IN THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE, IT IS SENT OVER. WE PUT IT INTO THE SYSTEM. WE VERIFY THE COMPLETENESS OF EVERYTHING. GET IT READY FOR SELF PREP. WE ALLOW FOR, ONCE THEY PUT IN THEIR APPLICATION, WE ALLOW UP TO 30 DAYS FOR PAYMENT. I DID PUT SOME TIME FRAMES IN THERE SO YOU CAN SEE THIS CAN BE A LITTLE BIT OF A DRAWN OUT PROCESS SOMETIMES. THEN, AFTER THAT 30 TO 35 DAYS, WE WILL SET IT FOR SALE AND THAT IS USUALLY A ONE OR TWO DAY. THE KEY THING HERE IS THAT AT THIS POINT, IF NOT PRIOR TO THE SALE PREPARATION, USUALLY RIGHT AFTER WE TAKE IT FOR INTAKE, THE APPLICATION IS AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE. THE SALE DATE IS SET AND THE APPLICATION IS AVAILABLE ON MY WEBSITE AND THERE IS A TON OF INFORMATION ASSOCIATED WITH THAT APPLICATION, WHICH I WILL SHOW YOU WHAT IT IS AND HOW TO GET THERE. WITH THAT APPLICATION, IT INCLUDES A FULL TIGHTER SEARCH TITLE SEARCH WHAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE OFFICE AND ANY LIENS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPERTY. THEN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE NOTICE ALL OF THE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE, WHETHER IT BE OWNERS, LIENHOLDERS, . WE MAKE SURE THAT 8 TO 12 WEEKS DEPENDS ON WHERE THEY ARE. IF THEY ARE OUT OF COUNTY, WE HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OUT OF COUNTY. A LITTLE BIT FASTER PROCESS. SO THAT IS USUALLY 88 TO 12 WEEK TIME PERIOD. I DO WANT TO NOTE HERE THAT IF THERE IS A COLD ENFORCEMENT LIEN ON THE PROPERTY, WE ALSO NOTIFY THE COUNTY AS WELL. THEN, WE GO INTO OUR PRESALE REVIEW AND THAT IS JUST CONFIRMING, THAT WE HAVE TO THE NOTICES, THE PUBLICATION, WE VERIFY THE SERVICE ON THE TITLEHOLDERS ET CETERA SO THAT IS NOT REALLY A LONG TIME PERIOD AND WE UPDATE THE OPENING BID AND THAT COULD INCLUDE ADDITIONAL TAXES DUE TO THE TAX COLLECTOR. THE OPENING BID COULD CHANGE SLIGHTLY. THEN YOU HAVE YOUR AUCTION DATE, WHICH IS YOUR SALE DATE WHICH ALSO COULD BE LOCATED ON THE WEBSITE AND THESE ARE ALL ONLINE SALES. THAT STARTS ABOUT 930 IN THE MORNING. ON AVERAGE, AND TOLD THE LAST ABOUT 20 TO 30 MINUTES. AND THEN WE GO A DAY LATER DEPENDING, WE GO TO OUR POST-AUCTION PROCESSING AND THAT IS WHERE WE COLLECT OUR BALANCES FROM THE WINNING BIDDERS . THE STATUTE SAYS WE HAVE TO HAVE IT BY NOON THE FOLLOWING DAY. SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A I DON'T IS A LOOPHOLE, BUT WHAT CAN HAPPEN AT THIS POINT, FROM THE TIME WE TAKE THE APPLICATION IN AND START THE SALE PROCESS, UP UNTIL THE DATE OF THE PROPERTY GOES UP FOR SALE, LIENS CAN STILL BE GETTING ATTACHED TO THIS PROPERTY. THE IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THAT, THERE ARE TWO CAVEATS HERE. THE IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THAT IS THE LIEN IS NOT UPDATED IN THE APPLICATION.

THERE IS NO WAY WE WILL BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THAT. WE HAVE

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INCLUDE OMITTED TAXES IS TOO? >>

>> IF THEY MAKE EVERYTHING CLEAR FROM TIME TO TIME, THE PROPERTY IS REDEEMED AND THE BIDDER IS OUT OF LUCK. BUT JUST A LITTLE CAVEAT THERE. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT CAN HAPPEN. ONCE WE RECEIVE THE PAYMENT, THE PROPERTY CANNOT BE RECEIVED ANYMORE. WE RESTRICTED ALL THE FUNDS AND RECORD IT. WE MAIL THE DEEDED TO THE NEW OWNER. THE NEXT LONG PERIOD IS ACTUALLY FROM THE SURPLUS OF THE SALES. THAT IS SURPLUS FUNDS PROCESSING. FROM STATUTE 120 DAYS FROM THE SALE, CLAIMS CAN BE MADE AGAINST ANY PROCEED FROM THE TAX DEED SALE AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE COUNTY. IF THERE IS A TAX DEED SALE AND THERE IS SOME TRUST AND THERE IS AN OUTSTANDING CODE ENFORCEMENT LIEN, A CLAIM CAN BE MADE AND THEY ACTUALLYMOVE UP A LITTLE BIT ON THE HIERARCHY, GIVEN THAT THEY ARE GOVERNMENT. DOESN'T MEAN THERE'S ENOUGH SURPLUS TO PAY THE WHOLE LIEN BUT COULD BE APPLIED TO THE LIENS. AND THEN, IF THERE IS ANY -- GENERALLY, GENERAL COUNSEL WILL REVIEW THE HIERARCHY AND DISBURSEMENT OF THE SURPLUS FUNDS WITHIN THOSE 2020 DAYS. SO THEN, YOU ALSO HAVE -- THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT TO PUT THIS ALL TOGETHER IS THE APPLICATION TO SURPLUS. THE AVERAGE TIME PERIOD IS 6 TO 7 MONTHS. A LOT OF ACTIVITY. MY POINT IS A LOT OF ACTIVITY OUTSIDE OF THE SURPLUS AND CAN HAPPEN TO THAT PIECE OF PROPERT WITHIN THAT TIME PERIOD AND THAT IS WHY THE BUYERS HAVE TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE. WE ALSO HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAVE CANCELLATIONS, WHETHER IT IS FOR REDEMPTION, WHETHER THE TAX COLLECTOR WITHDRAWS, A COURT ORDER, LACK OF SERVICE, THERE ARE SITUATIONS WE HAVE TO CANCEL THE SALE AND RESET THE SALE FOR FIVE WEEKS TO START THE PROCESS BACK OVER.

REDEMPTIONS ARE WHAT I MENTIONED WHEN SOMEBODY COMES INTO THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE AND SATISFIES ALL THE TAXES, THE INTEREST, AND THE FEES. AND THEN, WE ALSO HAVE UNSOLD PROPERTIES WHICH WE WILL SET A TAX DEED FOR SALE AT TIMES DEPENDING ON THE QUALITY OF THE PROPERTY . IT CAN BE UNIMPROVED LAND LOT PIECE OF PROPERTY, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW. IT WON'T SELL SO WE SET IT FOR SALE ANYWHERE FROM 2 TO 3 TIMES. IF IT DOESN'T SELL FOR THAT POINT, WE PUT IT ON THE LISTED LANDS. IT WILL SIT ON LISTED LANDS FOR THREE YEARS AND AFTER THAT, IT GETS ESCHEATED TO THE COUNTY . THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECES TO SHOW YOU WHERE THIS INFORMATION EXISTS AND THAT IT HAS BEEN THERE SINCE I HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE AVAILABLE. AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES. I PICKED ONE IN PARTICULAR TO SHOW YOU TODAY. ALL RIGHT. SO, ON THE WEBSITE, MAIN PAGE, TAX DEED AND FORECLOSURES. RIGHT HERE IS OUR TAX DEEDS AND LANDS AVAILABLE. YOU CAN SEARCH BY DATE, SO IF YOU WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WAS COMING UP, LET'S PICK JUNE 26TH , JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU SEE. I THINK WE HAVE FOUR OR FIVE. YEAH. YOU CAN SEE ONE HAS ALREADY BEEN REDEEMED SO WE WENT FROM 5 TO 4. THAT INFORMATION IS THERE.

IF YOU CLICK ON IT, HERE IS ALL OF THE INFORMATION ASSOCIATED WITH THE SALE. HERE IS WHAT WE GET FROM THE TAXPAYERS OFFICE, APPLICATION AND ALL OF THE APPROPRIATE FORMS. WITHIN THE APPLICATION IS WHERE ALL THE INFORMATION IS RELATED TO THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY , INCLUDING THE TITLE SEARCH AND THE LIENS AND HERE IS YOUR RETURN ON THE TITLE SEARCH. THIS LOOKS PRETTY

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IT WENT THROUGH A SOFTWARE CALLED GRANTSTREET . THIS IS ONE THAT CAME BEFORE YOU A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THAT SAID HE WAS NOT INFORMED. IF YOU GO TO THE APPLICATION, WHAT YOU WILL FIND RIGHT HERE IS THE NOTICE OF ALL OF THE LIENHOLDERS AND YOU WILL SEE RIGHT HERE, ALL THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND CODE ENFORCEMENT. NOT ONLY THAT, AND AS YOU SCROLL DOWN -- THERE IS MR. BARRY -- AS YOU SCROLL DOWN, AGAIN, IT IS LISTED AGAIN RIGHT HERE. AND EVEN MORE SO, WHAT IS ALSO INCLUDED -- THE ACTUAL CODE ENFORCEMENT ORDER ENFORCING THE FINE. THE INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE AND OUT THERE. YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE INITIATIVE TO GO LOOK AT IT. SO REAL QUICK. I AM JUST GOING TO SHOW YOU A NEW ONE JUST IN CASE . JUST TO SHOW THE DIFFERENCE OF WHAT THE NEW SYSTEM IS DOING. MUCH CLEANER. THIS ONE DOES NOT HAVE A CODE ENFORCEMENT ON IT. BUT AGAIN, SAME INFORMATION. APPLICATION IS REALLY ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IS LISTED AT. HOW CLEAR THE TITLE IS ON THE LAND AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW. REDUCES THE SAME INFORMATION. YOU CAN SEE HERE, A FEW MORTGAGES ON THE PROPERTY. AND THEN ALL OF THE DETAIL BEHIND IT. SO, I JUST WANTED TO WALK THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HOW IT WORKS. IT IS A HANDOFF FROM THE TAX COLLECTOR OR FROM DELINQUENT TAXES TO THE TAX CERTIFICATE HOLDER TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND THIS IS THE INFORMATION THAT IS AVAILABLE OUT THERE ON ANY TAX SALE AND YOU CAN GO OUT AND LOOK FOR ANY GIVEN DAY JUST BY THE SEARCH FUNCTION BY THESE DIFFERENT AREAS. MOST PEOPLE LOOK AT SALE DATE SO YOU CAN

JUST SEE WHAT IS OUT THERE. >> QUESTION? SO, ANYONE THAT BUYS A TAX DEED CAN LOOK ON HERE AND THERE IS ALWAYS --

THEY ALWAYS CAN SEE THAT? >> THEY CAN SEE THERE IS A LIEN UP UNTIL THE POINT OF THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE. SO, LET'S SAY WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE ACTUALLY . TRACY, YOU MAY HAVE TO STEP UP AND KEEP ME HONEST ON THAT ONE BECAUSE WE FOUND THIS ONE TODAY. IT WAS A SITUATION WHERE -- LET ME GET MY DATES RIGHT.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. IT WAS A SITUATION WHERE ON MAY 31ST , THE TITLE SEARCH WAS COMPLETE AND JUNE 1ST -- JUNE 1ST?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> JUNE 1ST, THE COUNTY PUT A CODE ENFORCEMENT LIEN ON IT. THIS WAS REDEEMED AND HAD A TAX DEED SALE AND INDIVIDUAL SIDE, I DID NOT KNOW IT HAD A LIEN ON IT. IS BECAUSE UP UNTIL YOUR SALE YOU NEED TO LOOK IN OFFICIAL RECORDS, LOOK UP THE PROPERTY PROS ARE NUMBER OR THE OWNER'S NAME AND MAKE SURE THAT IS NOT BEEN ANY OTHER LIEN OR ADDITIONAL LIEN FILED ON THAT PIECE OF OPERATING. THAT IS THE BITTER'S RESPONSIBILITY. SO IT IS ON THEIR AT TIME OF TITLE SEARCH COMING FROM THE TAX COLLECTOR TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND ANYTHING AFTER THAT IS RECORDED IN OFFICIAL RECORDS BUT THE TITLE SEARCH IS NOT UPDATED.

>> BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS TELL US OUT THAT. THEY ALWAYS TELL US DID NOT KNOW THERE WAS A LIEN. THEY JUST DO NOT DO THE

RESEARCH. >> THIS IS NOT INFORMATION YOU HAVE TO PAY AN ATTORNEY TO DO OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. NO,

MA'AM. >> BETWEEN THE PARCEL NUMBER AND OWNER NUMBER, YOU CAN FIND OUT IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL LIENS ON YOUR PROPERTY. AND HAVE A HARD TIME, CALL. WE WILL

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WHAT YOU NEED TO LOOK FOR. >> THEY ARE NOT AS TECHNOLOGY

SAVVY. >> I THINK A LOT OF TIMES, THEY MAY THINK THAT ONCE IT IS UP FOR APPLICATION AND GETS SET FOR SALE, NOTHING CAN BE ATTACHED TO IT, BUT IT CAN.

>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. WHAT TRIGGERS THE LIEN? WE HAVE A CODE VIOLATION . WE GO TO MAGISTRATE AND THEY FIND AND THEY ACCUMULATE FINES , BUT WHAT TRIGGERS THE ACTUAL

LIEN DOCUMENT? >> TERESA MIGHT HAVE TO HELP ME ON THIS BUT THEY HAVE MANY CHANCES. THEY ARE FIRST GIVEN A NOTICE TO COME TO THE FIRST HEARING AND THEN THEY ARE GIVEN A ORDER OF COMPLIANCE. THEY ARE REQUIRED IN SO MANY DAYS TO BRING IT UP TO COMPLIANCE, THEN THEY COME BACK FOR ANOTHER HEARING. IF THEY HAVEN'T COMPLIED AND CLOSED THE CASE, AND AT THAT TIME, THE MAGISTRATE HAS THE OPTION IF THEY NEED MOE TIME TO GIVE THEM MORE TIME OR IF THEY JUST DON'T RESPOND TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ACTUAL ORDER IMPOSING THE LIEN. AT THAT TIME, THE FINE WILL BE IMPOSED AND IT WILL BE REPORTED.

>> SO, THE TEXT . IT COULD BE COINCIDENCE WITH A TEXT DEFAULT AS WELL. SO WE COULD BE GOING THROUGH A TAX DEED SALE AND THEN WE LEVY A LIEN AGAINST A PROPERTY FOR CODE VIOLATION.

>> I COULD GIVE YOU A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE. BECAUSE PART OF WHAT OUR CODE TEAM DOES BEHIND THE TEAM SEEMS IS A TON OF PAPERWORK LIKE CLERK GREENE SHOWED IN THIS DOCUMENT. OUR TEAM DOES ALL OF THIS AFTER SPECIAL MAGISTRATE MEETINGS SO IT TAKES A LOT OF PREP TO GET TO THIS SPECIAL MAGISTRATE AND IT TAKES JUST AS MUCH AS PREP IN THE BACKSIDE. A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS IS ON WEDNESDAY OF LAST WEEK, I GOT A CALL FROM SOMEONE WHO WAS ATTEMPTING TO BUY A PROPERTY, I THINK, A TAX DEED SALE. YOU HAVE A TAX DEED SALE LAST WEDNESDAY? OKAY. THANK YOU. SO HE WAS ATTEMPTING TO BUY IT. HE HAD DONE HIS HOMEWORK AND HE HAD AT LEAST SAW THERE WAS SOME CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION. SO THE QUESTION HE ASKS TO MEET IS HOW MUCH IS IT? WELL, I THINK HE HAD JUST SEEN SOME OF THAT DOCUMENTATION IN THERE BECAUSE ACTUALLY, THE NEXT DAY AT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, THE TAX DEED SALE WAS ON WEDNESDAY. ON THURSDAY THE NEXT DAY WAS OUR SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HEARING.

THAT FINECASE WAS GOING FOR A FINE THAT DAY AT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE MEETING. AND LET COURTNEY TALKED ABOUT, IF NOBODY SHOWED UP WAS THAT I NEED EXTRA TIME, SHE WOULD THEN TYPICALLY PUT A FINE ON IT AND THE FINE GOALS TO IN THE FIRST DATE STARTED. I HAD TO DO A LOT OF HOMEWORK TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE FINE WOULD BE BECAUSE IT WOULD GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE APRIL DATE SO, YES, SIR. THAT COULD HAPPEN. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, THE FINE IS ACCUMULATING AS THE VIOLATION EXISTS. AT SOME POINT, WE PUT A LIEN AGAINST THE PROPERTY. WHAT IS THE NUMBER WE PUT ON THE LIEN AGAINST THE PROPERTY?

>> IT IS ON THEIR -- >> IS THERE A DATE?

>> IS A DAILY RATE. >> THEY CALCULATED THE DAYS.

>> THE LIEN SPECIFIES THE DAILY RATE.

>> SOMEBODY HAS BOUGHT A FORECLOSURE, BUYING IT SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THE TITLE SEARCH FOR FOLKS WOULD SAY, I HAVE THIS ADDRESS. 1234 SMITH STREET. IS THERE ANY CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS ON IT? IF IT IS AN ACTIVE ROLLING FINE, THE ANSWER BACK TO THEM IS, AS OF JUNE 11 2024, THE FINE IS $25,000 AND WHATEVER SENSE. BUT IT IS ROLLING.

>> QUESTION? THAT WOULD NOT ALREADY BE IN THE SYSTEM FOR US AS A FINE THEN ? IF IT IS ALREADY BEEN ACCUMULATING EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVEN'T ON THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. THERE STILL WOULD BE SOMETHING IN THERE SHOWING IT IS ACCUMULATING?

>> IF IT IS NOT GOING TO THE MAGISTRATE, IT IS NOT COMMITTING. IF ALL OF THAT IS ON HOLD UNTIL THE DECISION IS MADE BY THE MAGISTRATE. WHEN THE DECISION IS MADE BY THE MAGISTRATE, YES, YOU ARE GETTING A DAILY FINE. THEY

BACKDATE IT. >> THAT IS HOW THEY MIGHT NOT

KNOW THAT. THAT MAKES SENSE. >> THE AUCTION IS A COMPETITIVE AUCTION WHAT KIND OF AUCTION IS IT?

>> IT IS AN ONLINE COMPETITIVE AUCTION. IT GOES TO THE HIGHEST

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BIDDER. >> AND YOU HAVE SO MUCH TIME TO

PAY? >> YOU DO. YOU HAVE UNTIL NOON

THE NEXT DAY TO PAY. >>

>> IT IS OPEN UNTIL THE HIGHEST BID IS ACCEPTED AND WHEN IT CLOSES, YOU HAVE UNTIL JUNE OF THE NEXT DAY TO MAKE YOUR PAYMENT. IF YOU DON'T MAKE YOUR PAYMENT, IT IS RESET.

>> IS THERE A CHANCE THAT A PROPERTY COULD GO FOR A TAX DEED SALE AT THE SAME TIME THIS IS GOING ON? ARE YOU SAYING THAT THAT ONE WENT UP FOR SALE THE DAY BEFORE IT WENT TO THE MAGISTRATE? DID THE PERSON SHOW UP AND SAY IT GOT SOLD

YESTERDAY? >> THAT PERSON, FROM WHAT I GATHERED FROM THE CALL DECIDED TO BACK OUT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MINIMUM AMOUNT WAS FOR THE TAX DEED SALE BUT THEY DECIDED IT WASN'T WORTH IT SO, NO. I AM PRETTY SURE -- A, I KNOW NOBODY SHOWED UP SO THEY PUT A FINE ON IT FOR SO MUCH PER DATE. DATING BACK TO APRIL WHEN THE CASE STARTED.

>> AND SO, THAT LIEN COULD STILL BE ATTACHED TO THE PROPERTY EVEN THOUGH THE PERSON DOESN'T OWN IT ANYMORE?

>> AND IT PROBABLY IS. WHOEVER BOUGHT IT THE DAY BEFORE WHEN THEY DO THEIR FINAL CLOSEOUT, THEY ARE GOING TO FIND A LIEN THAT WAS PUT ON IT THE NEXT DAY. YES. THEY ARE GOING TO GET

A SURPRISE. >> BUT HOW OFTEN DOES THAT

HAPPEN? >> IT IS A RARE OCCURRENCE, I

WOULD BET. >> TRACY POINTED SOMETHING OUT.

OPENING BIDS DO NOT INCLUDE THE AMOUNTS. THAT IS WHY I AM SAYING THAT THE BIDS MAY NOT CLEAR ALL OF THE LIENS. THAT IS A SIDETRACK TO HAVE TO GO TO GO FIND OUT. IT IS INTERESTS, TAXES AND FEES ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

>> IF THERE IS LIENS, THERE IS MORE TO IT.

>> YES. >> THERE IS A SURPRISE AT THE

END. >> A GIFT WITH PURCHASE.

>> A GIFT WITH PURCHASE. >> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. TEANECK APPRECIATE IT. AND WHILE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT, MR. BRIAN CAMPBELL BAXTER ALONG WITH SARAH CAMPBELL FROM ORANGE PARK. SO, WELCOME TO THE CLAY COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING. NEXT

[4.  Board of County Commissioners Meeting Minutes May 28, 2024.]

WHAT THAT SAYS. >> 28TH.

>> I WILL MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> A MOTION A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM MAY 28TH, 2024. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> EIGHT. AYE. >> THE NEXT ITEM IS THE PUBLIC

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS DENNIS MITTHINI . THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK. FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE SHERIFF COOK. SHE HAS BEEN VERY OPEN. I HAVE NEVER DEALT WITH A SHERIFF BEFORE THAT IS GIVING YOU INFORMATION AND WANTS TO GIVE YOU MORE SO, I WANT TO THANK HER VERY MUCH

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>> I APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU AND HAVE IT A DAY.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, DENNIS.

>> THAT IS THE ONLY CARD I HAVE. IS ANYONE ELSE HERE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE, CLOSING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SEGMENT OF THE HEARING. THE NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO PULL ANY ITEM OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA? IF NOT, I WILL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE

THE CONSENT AGENDA. >>

>> I HAVE A MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? HEARING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. ANY NAYS, LIKE SIGN. 5-0. MR. DEN DOOR?

[13.  Progress Report on the Bonded Transportation Program (E. Dendor)]

>> TO THE BOARD, TO THE CHAIR, ED DENDOR. WITH ME THIS MEETING IS THAT WTI'S . ARE SET UP WITH A HEAVY HEART THOUGH. WE HAVE TO REPORT OUR FIRST INJURY THIS EVENING. EARLIER THIS MORNING A WORKER WAS STRUCK BY A MOVING TRAILER THAT WAS BEING TOLD BY VEHICLE AND WHILE HE WAS WORKING ALONGSIDE RUSSELL ROAD NEAR THE NORTHBOUND LANE CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION OF RUSSELL ROAD. DETAILS OF THE INTERESTED INCIDENT ARE STILL UNDER INVESTIGATION SO NO FURTHER DETAILS AT THIS TIME WE WOULD APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PRAYERS FOR HIM, HIS FAMILY, AND COWORKERS AND THE HEALING HANDS OF THE DOCTOR AT THIS

TIME. >> HE WAS TRANSPORTED TO THE

HOSPITAL? >> YES, SIR. HE WAS TRANSPORTED AND REMAINS THERE AT THIS TIME. MOVING UP, FOR MASTERS PIT ROAD TO PINE TREE LANE. A CONSTRUCTION NOTICE WAS ISSUED TO RECEIPT AND THE TEAM HELD A PRECONSTRUCTION MEETING ON MAY 27TH. TYCHO'S GUEST CONTINUE RELOCATING REMAIN WITHIN THE COUNTY'S RIGHT AWAY. OUR TEAM RELEASED FOR CONSTRUCTION THE REVISED DRAWING TO DESIGN AROUND THE LACK OF EASEMENTS.

OUR TEAM IS REVIEWING THE SHOP DRAWINGS TO APPROVE THE DRAINAGE STRUCTURES ALONG WITH THE SANITARY SEWER. THE CONTRACTOR INSTALLED PORTABLE MACHINING SIGNS AND ADVANCED WARNING SIGNS OF NOTICED THE PUBLIC. FOR ROUTE 2, APPRAISALS AND COUNSEL OFFERS CONTINUE FOR RIGHT AWAY SPECIFICALLY FOR PRODUCT NUMBER TWO. A SUPERIOR CONSTRUCTION CONTINUED CLEARING WORKING ALONG THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. THE UTILITY ADJUSTMENTS CONTINUED THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDOR. OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS, DRAINAGE SYSTEMS WILL BE INSTALLED THROUGH PONDS I 22 U.S. 17 AND ON MAY 15TH, THE COUNTY HELD A PRECONSTRUCTION KICKOFF MEETING WITH CX SIX FOUR RAILROAD CROSSING WIDENING IMPROVEMENTS. REQUEST FOR CX SIX WERE PROCESSED AND SURGICAL SCHEDULE IS CRITICAL. THE TEAM IS WORKING WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND CSX AN ATTEMPT TO MINIMIZE IMPACT FOR THE TRAVELING PUBLIC. DURING THIS PERIOD, VERY LITTLE PROGRESS WAS MADE ACTUALLY ON PRODUCT NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS COUNTY ROAD 220 DUE TO CONTINUED FEDERAL INJUNCTION CAUSED BY THE FTP FOR PERMIT. DELAYS. PLANS ARE COMPLETE AND ON THE SHELF, WAITING FOR THE PERMIT APPROVAL. FOR PROJECT 6A, THE TEAM IS WORKING WITH A SUPERIOR FOR A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE ON THE SLIMMED-DOWN VERSION OF THE OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENT.

THE SCOPE IS BEING DIVIDED INTO BASICALLY TWO WORK AREAS. ONE FOR PROJECT 6B, WHICH WOULD TRANSLATE SIX ROADS NEAR

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FOR PROJECTS THREE A, 50209, FOR THE COUNTY 0209 SECTIONS JUST NORTH OF OAK STREAM ROAD TO SOUTH OF WATKINS ROAD, CONTINUED WITH THE OPERATIONAL SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AND THE SIDEWALK ALONG THE EASTERN SIDE OF COUNTY ROAD 209. LARGELY TO THE MULTIPLE ACTS OF VANDALISM AND DAMAGE TO THE EQUIPMENT AS WELL AS MULTIPLE TRUST PASSING INTO THE WORKSPACE AND THE SITE, CLAY COUNTY SHERIFF OFFICERS WERE ADDED TO SAFE UP THE SITE. AN ENGINEERED SOLUTION WAS PROPOSED , REVIEWED, AND AGREED TO FOR THE CROSS COLORED CONNECTIONS SOUTH OF WATKINS ROAD. THE SOLUTION WAS TO REDIRECT OUTFLOW. WHILE PERFORMING THIS ASSESSMENT, DAMAGE WAS DISCOVERED INSIDE OF THE CROSS DRAIN BY THE CIVIL ENGINEER SOLUTION THAT WAS CONSIDERED AND ADDED TO THE DOUBLE 54 CROSS RANGE WAS INSTALLED. THE INTENT WAS TO AVOID HAVING A COSTLY AND TIMELY REPLACEMENT OF THESE CROSS DRAINS. THIS PROJECT IS ON SCHEDULE WITH 61% OF THE PROJECT COMPLETE WITH RESPECT TO TIME AND 39% PAID OUT. FOR SECTION 3B, WHICH CONNECTS THE EASTERN AND THE PROJECT FOR AND RUNS THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT THROUGH 209 AND 209B, WE CONTINUE WITH THE PRE-MOBILIZATION ACTIVITIES AND HELP THEIR BIMONTHLY FOUR-WEEK LOOKAHEAD. THE TEAM CONTINUED WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS FOR THE BALANCE OF THE ROADWORK REALIGNMENT. YESTERDAY ON JUNE 10TH, CLAY ELECTRICAL BEGAN THEIR REHABILITATION AT THE COUNTY ROAD 209/209B RUNABOUT LOCATION. THE CONTRACTOR INSTALLED PORTABLE MESSAGING SIGNS AND ADVANCED NOTICE SIGNS TO ADVANCE THE PUBLIC OF THE UPCOMING ROAD INSTRUCTION. ON PART FOUR, THE CONTINUAL INSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD AND THIS PRODUCT IS ON SCHEDULE WITH 56% PAID OUT AND 62% OF THE TIME BEING USED.

MOVING ONTO PROJECTS 6B . THE TEAM CONTINUED HOLDING THEIR BIMONTHLY STATUS MEETINGS . CUT AND FILL OPERATIONS CONTINUED THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDOR FROM STATE ROAD 23 ON THE FOREST WENT TO COUNTY ROAD 315 AND MARYLAND AVENUE AT THE FAR EAST END. I'LL DRIVING CONTINUED ON THE WEST BANK. SUPERIOR CONTINUED SETTING BEINGS ON THE COMPLETED PILE CAPS AND CONTINUE TO PLACE REBAR AND PLACE THE RICH DECK. THE FIRST PERSON AT THE RIDGE THAT WAS PLACED CROSSED STORMWATER DRAINAGE INSTALLATION IN PLACE ALONG WITH SUBBASE, LIMESTONE, SIDEWALK AND CURBING INSULATION CONTINUES FROM WEST TO EAST. IN SUPPORT OF ALL OF THIS WORK, TARA GREENE CONTINUES TO WORK ACROSS THE SPECTRUM AS OF MAY 31ST, THE PROGRAM EXPANDED 52% OR $80,092,000 OF WHICH $75 MILLION ARE DEFINED FUNDS AND

THIS CONCLUDES OUR REPORT. >> WHAT INTEL DO YOU HAVE ABOUT THE POOR ENGINEER PERMIT PROCESS ? CAN WE GET ANYBODY FROM A HIGHER LEVEL TO HELP US WITH THAT, BRIAN?

>> IT IS STILL NOT REALLY MOVING AS LIGHTNING SPEED AS WE WOULD LIKE. FORTUNATELY OR UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS HITTING ALL COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND I APPRECIATE BRIAN COMING UP. HE HAS BEEN REALLY INSTRUMENTAL WITH HELPING US WITH OUR MULTIPLE DIFFERENT PERMITTING BUT THIS IS ONE OF

THOSE STICKY LINKS. >> THANK YU. WITH THE CHAIR'S PERMISSION, JUST A QUICK UPDATE. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE CONGRESSMAN DID HELP PASS AN AMENDMENT ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO THAT WOULD PUT THE AUTHORITY BACK IN THE EP'S HANDS. IT IS PASSED THROUGH THE HOUSE NOT BEEN TAKEN UP IN THE SENATE. WE WILL WAIT AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY SENATE ACTION AT THIS TIME.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS LIKELY MORE SPECIFICALLY, WE DID JUST LEARN ON FRIDAY OF LAST WEEK STARTING YESTERDAY, ABOUT 90% OF THE CASES JUST MAC JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE, THERE WERE MORE THAN 1000 CASES IN THE KEEL AND EP THAT FELL ON THE 404 RULING. OF THOSE 1000 CASES, ALL OF THEM HAVE TO REAPPLY SO THEY ARE ALL SITTING AS NEW CASES IN THE ARMY CORPS ALONG WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THEY ARE DEALING WITH. MORE THAN 90% OF THOSE DO NOT DEAL WITH ENDANGERED SPECIES. VISITED THE

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WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO FIND THAT OUT BUT HOPEFULLY, THAT WILL AT LEAST TRUNCATE THE TIMELINE TO GETTING THE

APPROVAL. >> I DO APPRECIATE THE DUE PROCESS, BRIAN. YOUR OFFICE HAS BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL AND TO THAT POINT, TALKING WITH SPECIALIST IN THE FIELD, THE ARMY CORPS HAS BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE TO OUR REQUESTS. ON THE FLIPSIDE, YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THAT RESPONSE UP. WE WILL GET TO YOU WHEN WE GET TO YOU BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE SO FAR

WITH THE ARMY CORPS. >> AND I JUST WANT TO FIRE APPRECIATE TO THE CONGRESSMAN . THERE IS CONCERN AT THE FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL LEVEL. HE IS A SUPERMAN UP THERE SO ANYWAY, WE APPRECIATE HIS WORK AND YOUR WORK AS WELL.

THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR AD?

>> THANK YOU. >> WE ARE ABOUT TWO MINUTES OR

[14.  Issuance of the County's Sales Surtax Revenue Bonds, Series 2024: Approval of Resolution of the Board of County Commissioners of Clay County, Florida, supplementing Resolution No. 2019/2020-45 of the County; making certain covenants and agreements in connection with the issuance of the County's Sales Surtax Revenue Bonds, Series 2024, including approval of execution for the Bond Closing of the Bond Purchase Contract; Official Statement relating to Clay County, Florida, Sales Surtax Revenue Bonds, Series 2024; and Disclosure Dissemination Agent Agreement; and approving authorization for the Chairman of the Board of County Commissioners and/or County Manager to execute any other documents necessary to close the transaction (C. Grimm/T. Nagle)]

I AM GOING TO READ THE WHOLE THING BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE HERE. ISSUANCE OF THE COUNTY'S SALES SURTAX REVENUE BONDS, SERIES 2024: APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, SUPPLEMENTING RESOLUTION NO. 2019/2020-45 OF THE COUNTY; MAKING CERTAIN COVENANTS AND AGREEMENTS IN CONNECTION WITH THE ISSUANCE OF THE COUNTY'S SALES SURTAX REVENUE BONDS, SERIES 2024, INCLUDING APPROVAL OF EXECUTION FOR THE BOND CLOSING OF THE BOND PURCHASE CONTRACT; OFFICIAL STATEMENT RELATING TO CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, SALES SURTAX REVENUE BONDS, SERIES 2024; AND DISCLOSURE DISSEMINATION AGENT AGREEMENT; AND APPROVING AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND/OR COUNTY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ANY OTHER DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO CLOSE THE TRANSACTION . LET ME EXPLAIN WHAT I JUST SAID.

>> YES. PREVIOUSLY, THE BOARD APPROVED MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS THAT IS IN CONNECTION WITH THE SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT YOU DESIGNATED, WHICH IS FOR FIRE STATIONS AND THE TOWER. WE HAVE PFM WERE HERE WITH US. COUNTY STAFF HAS WORKED WITH JEREMY WITH PFM AS WELL AS OUR BOND DISCLOSURE COUNSEL . NONDISCLOSURE AND? WHAT IS THE OTHER? I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THEY ARE SERVING AS BUT ALSO THE UNDERWRITER, WHICH WE HAVE CHOSEN BANK OF AMERICA AND WE HAVE WORKED WITH THEM AS WELL IN DRAFTING THE DOCUMENTS. AT THIS POINT, WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS FOR THE BOARD TO APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION, WHICH WILL ACTUALLY -- IT IS THE FINAL ACT OF YOU MOVING FORWARD WITH APPROVAL FOR US TO SELL THE BONDS, WHICH THAT IS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 25TH, IF THIS ALL MOVES FORWARD. AND THEN FOR YOUTH AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT WILL BE ESSENTIAL IN COMING TO THE ACTUAL CLOSING WHICH WE ANTICIPATE OCCURRING

DURING THE WEEK OF JULY 15TH. >> WE HAVE SPENT PROBABLY TWO HOURS ON THE PHONE WITH DIFFERENT ATTORNEYS FOR THE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS OF THIS PROCESS. SO, JEREMY, -- GO AHEAD. TELL US WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

>> THAT WAS A GREAT SUMMARY. JEREMY PIERRE FINANCIAL ADVISER TO THE COUNTY. THE PROCESS HAS GONE EXTREMELY WELL. IT HAS BEEN SMOOTH. WE'RE ACTUALLY BRINGING THIS TO THIS MEETING SO THAT WE CAN PRICE THE DEAL TOWARDS THE END OF JUNE. WE HAD GREAT NEWS FROM THE AGENCIES. AS MP ASSIGNED IT A+ AND THEY AFFIRMED THE A+. THEY SIGNED AA'S THAT IS TWO NOTCHES HIGHER AND THEY ALSO RAISED THE IDR, ISSUE DEFAULT RATING TO AAA. KUDOS TO THE TEAM, CLERKS OFFICE, AND ABDOMEN BY COMING TOGETHER. IT IS A GREAT STORY HERE AND I THINK THIS IS GOING TO PLAY WELL AS WE MOVE INTO THE MARKET HERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. THE MARKET IN GENERAL HAS BEEN PRETTY ROCKY. IT HASN'T BEEN THE GREATEST NEWS FOR THE CAPITAL MARKETS. LAST

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DEAL SPECIFICS OR PROCESS? >> THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD IS WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET A NUMBER FOR THE RESOLUTION. DID

WE GET THAT NUMBER? >> YES. IT WILL BE RESOLUTION

2023/2024 DASH 57. >>-57? SO, IN ESSENCE, THIS IS A RESOLUTION TO CONTINUE THE PROCESS FORWARD WITH THE BOND SALE . WELL, WITH THE BOND SALE. SO I AUTHORIZE MYSELF AND CLERK GREEN TO SIGN THE DOCUMENTS, I GUESS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR COURTNEY OR JEREMY? I WILL TAKE A MOTION IF

NOBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS. >> I WILL MOVE TO APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? HEARING NONE, SEEING

NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. >> AYE.

>> ALL NAYS, SAME SIGN. WE ARE ALMOST RIGHT ON THE MONEY HERE.

[15.  Lien Reduction]

>> HELLO THERE. THIS IS THE ITEM THAT WAS ORIGINALLY ON OUR AGENDA BACK IN MAY AND MR. CARSON WAS OUT OF THE COUNTRY AND WAS UNABLE TO BE HERE, SO WE MOVED IT TO TODAY. I BELIEVE MISSES CARSON IS ACTUALLY GOING TO COME ON UP. MISSES CARSON.

WITH US TODAY AS HER HUSBAND , POOR FELLA IS STILL OUT OF THE COUNTRY ON BUSINESS, SO SHE CAN PROBABLY AN ELABORATE ON THAT.

BUT JUST A REALLY QUICK UPDATE ON THIS ONE. THIS PROPERTY IS OWNED BY THE WILLIS . YOU SEE THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE . THE RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT THE 24,000/25,000 LIEN BE REDUCED TO ZERO DOLLARS. HER DECISION WAS BASED ON THE FOLLOWING. CURRENT OWNER HAS PHYSICAL DISABILITIES AND MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND WAS NOT ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THE VIOLATIONS. PROPERTY WAS BEING USED AS A DRUG CAMP. MR. CARSON WAS ORDERED TO CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY AND CONDUCTED THREE PROBATE SPIRIT APPROXIMATELY $6000 IS THE COST TO OBTAIN CLEAN TITLE AND THE CLEANUP OF THE PROPERTY. IT EXCEEDS THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY. MR. CARSON PLANS TO PURCHASE THE PARTY FOR HIS BROTHER TO RESIDE UPON AND MR. CARSON OFFERED A GREAT SERVICE TO THE COUNTY IN CLEANING UP THE DRUG CAMP. THIS IS PART OF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. I DO WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THE STAFF'S COST.

THAT IS ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAVE REGULARLY IS $1540. AND I STAND HERE FOR QUESTIONS OR SAID HERE FOR QUESTIONS AND

MISS CARSON IS HERE AS WELL. >> SO, HE LEFT YOU WITH THE

DEFENSE HERE? >>

>> YES. I AM HERE FOR CLEANUP DUTY.

>> CLEANUP. >>

>> THE PROPERTY VALUE -- >>

SPEAKERS ] >> -- FOR THE CLARIFICATION OF THE BOARD, YOU CAN JUST GIVE US SOME IDEAS AS TO WHAT HAS HAD

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>> WE ARE PROBABLY ABOUT $20,000 INTO THIS. I BELIEVE IT

WAS -- >> COULD YOU PULL THE

MICROPHONE DOWN? >> -- SORRY. I BELIEVE IT WAS ABOUT 1040 YARD DUMPSTERS. THERE WAS A MOBILE HOME ON THERE. THERE WERE CAMPERS ON THERE. THERE WERE TENTS. THERE WERE LITTLE OUTBUILDINGS AND, YOU KNOW, TRASH JUST BEYOND BELIEF. THERE WERE NEEDLES. THERE WAS HUMAN WASTE. I MEAN, IT WAS HORRIFIC. MY HUSBAND WAS CONTACTED BY A FRIEND WHO WAS A FRIEND OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AND IT WAS ABOUT TO GO UP FOR TAX DEED SALE IS WHAT THE ISSUE WAS SO, WE PAID THE TAXES UP CURRENT. I DID DO THE RESEARCH AND FOUND OUT THAT THERE WAS A LIEN . CONTACTED THE CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THEY SAID, THERE IS AN OUTLET WHERE YOU CAN ASK FOR THOSE FOR TO BE LOWERED OR WHATEVER. IF YOU ARE GOING TO EXTEND THE OLIVE BRANCH, I AM GOING TO TAKE IT.

>> ONE >> SINCE WE ARE GOING THROUGH PROBATE, THERE IS ONE FAMILY MEMBER THAT WE CAN'T FIND IT SO THAT IS A WHOLE ANOTHER LEGAL ACTION TO GET THAT DONE.

BUT MR. WILLIS, THE ONE THAT WAS LIVING THERE, WE HAVE PAID HIM. EVERYONE ELSE HAS SIGNED OVER DEEDS TO US SO IT IS JUST THE ONE GENTLEMAN WERE HIS LAST KNOWN ADDRESS WAS IN NORTH CAROLINA BUT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND HIM.

>> AND WHAT WAS THE SALE PRICE YOU ENDED UP PLAYING PAYING?

>> $20,000. >> 20?

>> ALSO WHATEVER -- >> THE CLEANUP.

>> -- YES. >> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY?

>> SURE. >> HATS OFF TO YOU AND YOUR

HUSBAND FOR DOING THIS -- >> IT WASN'T MY IDEA.

>> DOING THIS ONE. BUT IT WORKED OUT WELL BECAUSE IT IS ALL CLEANED UP AND THE NEIGHBORS WERE SO APPRECIATIVE. IT WAS INFESTED WITHDINO MS. RATS WHEN WE STARTED CLEANING IT UP BUT THEY FOUND OTHER PLACES TO LIVE NOW.

>> MY SENTIMENT REMAINS. OR PROPERTY IS WITHIN MY DISTRICT SO I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE EFFORT HAS BEEN MADE TO ASSIST THE COUNTY. MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, MY MOTION IS FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH NOTHING MORE THAN THE COSTS THAT WERE INCURRED BY THE COUNTY. AS NOTED BY CHARISSE, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF COSTS, WHICH WERE $1540. WE WILL WAIVE THE REST. THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD.

>> THAT IS YOUR MOTION? >> THAT IS MY MOTION.

>> THANK YOU. SECOND. >> YES. I WILL SECOND HER

MOTION. >> OKAY. HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THE ONLY OTHER DISCUSSION I HAVE IS JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE PROPERTY VALUE IS WORTH ABOUT 56? NEARLY 57,000. AND THOSE STAFF COSTS ARE A BURDEN TO ALL OF THE RESIDENTS OF CLAY COUNTY. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT -- AND THEY ONLY REPRESENT APPROXIMATELY 10% OF WHAT THE ACTUAL COST IS. SO, I HAVE A MOTION TO US AND THE SECOND.

ANY COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> ANY NAYS, LIKE SIGN. THANK

[16.  Public Hearing on Petition to Establish the Governors Park South Community Development District (C. Grimm)]

[17.  Public Hearing for consideration of an Ordinance creating the Governors Park South Community Development District (C. Grimm)]

YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU.

>> ITEM NUMBER 16. PUBLIC HEARING ON PETITION TO ESTABLISH THE GOVERNORS PARK SOUTH COMMUNITY DISTRICT.

>> ON 16 AND 17 WE CAN DO TOGETHER BUT IT WILL REQUIRE SEPARATE VOTES. BUT IN CONNECTION WITH 16 AND 17, WE HAVE THE POSITION TO ESTABLISH THE GOVERNORS PARK SOUTH COMMUNITY CDD AND ORDINANCE THAT CREATES THE CDD. HERE ON THE APPLICANT IS MIKE ECKERT AND I BELIEVE HE HAS A

PRESENTATION. >> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

MIKE ECKERT. 107 WEST COLLEGE AVENUE. TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA.

HERE ON BEHALF OF GOVERNORS PARK PROPERTY HOLDINGS. WE ARE ASKING THE COMMISSION TO ESTABLISH A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. WE ALSO HAVE WITH US HERE TODAY KATE JOHN, FROM MY OFFICE WHO HAS BEEN ASSISTING WITH THE PETITION AND COUNTY STAFF. ALSO CRAIG , DISTRICT MANAGER AND ASSESSMENT CONSULTANT. MATTHEW . AS WELL AS KEVIN CRAMER, PETITIONERS RESENTED IT. ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE PREFILED

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>> THIS IS JUST THE PRESENTATION OUTLINE WE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH TO TALK ABOUT THE ESTABLISHMENT PROCESS. WE HAVE ALREADY DONE EVERYTHING WE NEEDED TO DO LEADING UP TO TODAY. THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROJECT, I CAN USE ALL, 2045 ACRES. ANYTHING UNDER 2500 ACRES GETS ESTABLISHED BY THE COUNTY OR IF IT IS A CITY BY CITY, OVER 2500, IT IS THE GOVERNMENT CABINET THAT ESTABLISHES THE CDD. WE WILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF ANALYSIS AND THEN, FINDINGS AND CERTAINLY THE CONCLUSION. BUT THAT IS OUR CONCLUSION. YOU ALL HAVE THE ULTIMATE CONCLUSION.

CHAPTER 190 IS A CHARTER FOR ALL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. IT IS NOT REALLY A CHOICE. THAT IS WHAT THE STATUTE SAYS. WE ARE A LOCAL UNIT OF SPECIAL-PURPOSE GOVERNMENT. A LOT OF TIMES I HEAR PEOPLE TO SUBSCRIBE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SIX AS QUASI-GOVERNMENT. WE ARE NOT QUASI-GOVERNMENT. WE ALSO TO THE SUNSHINE LAW AND MANY OF THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST LAWS THAT COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE ARE TOO. CDD DIVIDES MANY LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE AMENITIES FOR THE STRUCTURE THAT IS BUILT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND IN FACT, THAT IS WHAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT TODAY TOO AS A BRIEF CHANGE FROM THE PETITION WE INITIALLY FILED BASED ON SOME CONCERNS THAT WERE EXPRESSED TO US BY COUNTY STAFF AND TRYING TO ADDRESS THOSE. WE DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO DO OUR OWN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUILDING CODE, OR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. EVERYTHING THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DOES MUST COMPLY WITH ALL COUNTY LAWS, RULES, REGULATIONS, AND POLICIES REGARDING PLANNING AND PERMITTING OF THE DEVELOPMENT. THE PRODUCT IS GENERALLY LOCATED WEST OF COUNTY ROAD 15 A AND U.S. HIGHWAY 17 AND SOUTH AND WEST OF THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY. AND THERE IS A MAP SHOWING WHERE THE PROPOSED DISTRICT IS AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THERE IS ONE OUT PARCEL AS YOU SEE THERE THAT IS OWNED BY CLAY COUNTY UTILITY AUTHORITY. THAT IS NOT PROPOSED TO BE WITHIN THE BOUNDARY OF THE DISTRICT TECHNICALLY ALTHOUGH THE DISTRICT WILL PROBABLY PROVIDE SOME IMPROVED ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY WHEN IT GETS TO. THE POTENTIAL DISTRICT

IN THE STRUCTURE -- >> YOU THINK YOU WOULD?

>> WHAT IS THAT? >> YOU THINK YOU WILL PROVIDE ACCESS? I MEAN IT WILL BE IMPROVED ACCESS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT IS AN EYELID. WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO THAT IN RESEARCH UNDER CHAPTER 190 IS SEWER, ROADS, WATER, STREET LIGHTING, UNDER GROUNDING CONDIMENT AND CONDO WENT LANDSCAPE COMMUNICATIONS AND SITE AMENITIES. OUR ESTIMATED COST OF IMPROVEMENT IS $516,200. CHAPTER 190 PROVIDES THE FACTORS THAT THE COMMISSION IS REQUIRED TO CONSIDER AND WHETHER TO GRANT OR DENY THE PETITION. AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE ALL STATEMENTS THE PETITION HAS FOUND TRUE AND CORRECT. WHETHER THE DISTRICT IS INCONSISTENT WITH EITHER THE STATE OR LOCAL COMPREHENSIVE PLANS AND WHETHER THE LAND AREA IS SUFFICIENT SIZE, AND SUFFICIENTLY CONTINUOUS TO BE FUNCTIONAL IN A RELATED COMMUNITY. THE OTHER THREE FACTORS ARE WHETHER THE DISTRICT IS THE BEST ALTERNATIVE FOR DELIVERING THE COMMUNITY FACILITY SERVICES AND FACILITIES AND WHETHER THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WILL BE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE CAPACITY AND USES OF EXISTING LOCAL AND REGIONAL COMMUNITY DEPLOYMENT SERVICES AND THAT REALLY SPEAKS TO WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE OUR OWN SEWER SYSTEM AND SEWER UTILITY. IT IS NOT WHAT IS GOING ON HERE. WHETHER THE AREA WILL BE SERVED

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WE PUBLISHED THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS TODAY. AT THIS POINT IN TIME , I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT WE WOULD BE ASKING THE COMMISSION TO ESTABLISH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT CALLED GOVERNORS PARK SOUTH COMMUNITY CDD AND CONSENT TO THE EXERCISE OF SPECIAL POWERS OF RECREATION AS WELL AS SECURITY. AND WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD HAS AND I HAVE THREE INDIVIDUALS WITH ME TODAY IF I AM UNABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSIONER HAS. ONE THING I WILL NOTE IS I DO HAVE AN AMENDED AND RESTATED PETITION EXHIBIT SIX I PROVIDED TO HER COUNTY ATTORNEY WHO HAS BEEN VERY GRACIOUS IN WORKING WITH ME THROUGH THE COUNTY'S CONCERNS. ESSENTIALLY, IT JUST CLARIFIES THAT THE DISTRICT WILL BE THE OWNER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WROTE AND SUBDIVISION ROAD . THE COUNTY WILL STILL OWN THE COLLECTOR ROADS IF WE DO IMPROVEMENTS TO STATE HIGHWAYS BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE INITIALLY PROPOSED THAT WOULD BE MSBU OR MSTU . THE FEEDBACK WE GOT THE WAS THAT THE COMMUNITY OWNS THE DEVELOPMENT ROADS AND THAT

REVISED EXHIBIT DEMONSTRATES. >> CHAIR, IF I COULD?

>> SURE. >> I AM MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE ROLE THE CDD HOLDS. IT MAKES NOT A BIG DIFFERENCE BUT GOVERNORS PARK SOUTH, DOES THAT INDICATE THERE IS GOING TO BE

GOVERNORS PARK NORTH? >> IT CERTAINLY HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR THAT BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DOESN'T DO ANYBODY ANY GOOD OR IS OUT OF INTENTIONS TO ANYBODY IS TO CREATE SOMETHING TOO EARLY BEFORE DEVELOPMENT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO COME ONLINE. SO I THINK THAT IS THE POTENTIAL

THOUGH. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

>> ONE OF THE RECENT DISCUSSIONS WE HAVE HAD IN THIS CHAMBER IS THE RECREATIONAL COMPONENT OF EIGHT CDD. WHAT GUIDES YOU IN YOUR RECREATIONAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN?

>> WELL, IN TERMS OF WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE, THAT IS A MATTER BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE COUNTY. YOU ALL FIGURE THAT OUT. THAT IS NOT REALLY ALL BETWEEN THE DISTRICT IN THE COUNTY. THE COUNTY TYPICALLY DOES NOT REQUIRE , WHAT I HAVE SEEN, RECREATION TO EITHER BE PRIVATELY OWNED OR PUBLICLY OWNED. THEY PROVIDE THAT RECREATION BE PROVIDED THERE A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, IT IS A FACILITY THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. THERE ARE USER FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BECAUSE OF THE RESIDENCE WHO WILL LIVE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY ARE PAYING SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS EVERY YEAR TOWARDS THAT BUT WE LOOK AT WHAT IS THE STATE LAW REQUIRE WHEN THE COMMUNITY DISTRICT OWNS IT. WE ALSO HAD BOND COVENANTS. WE HAVE TO SIGN BOND COVENANTS SAYING THE FACILITIES WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND THEY WILL BE MAINTAINED AND INSURED AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE GUIDING FOR US AND WE HAVE RECREATION BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT IS REQUIRED WITHIN A PROJECT, THAT IS TYPICALLY COVERED BY THE DEVELOPMENT OWNER. NOT BY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

WE TAKE THE GOVERNMENT ORDER PROVIDES AND THERE IS A DECISION THAT IS MADE. IS IT GOING TO BE A JOY OWNED? CBD OWNED? IS THE DISTRICT GOING TO BUILD A PARK AND GIVEN TO THE COUNTY? CERTAINLY THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAVE BEEN DONE BEFORE. I WORKED WITH TWO OTHER DISTRICT AND OAK LEAF AND WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT RECREATION FACILITIES OVER THERE THAT THE RESIDENCE USE QUITE OFTEN BUT THOSE ARE THE GUIDEPOSTS WE USE AND HOW WE RUN THOSE. I AM NOT SURE IF I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. I'M HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP.

>> IS A CONVEX ISSUE IN MY MIND AND YOU HAVE CLARIFIED SOME THE ISSUES. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO, THIS FIRST IS A HEARING TO ESTABLISH GOVERNORS PARK SOUTH CDD AND WE WILL MOVE

ON TO THE ORDINANCE. >> PUBLIC HEARING.

>> PUBLIC HEARING. YOU ARE RIGHT. I AM GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PETITION TO ESTABLISHED GOVERNORS PARK SOUTH CDD. ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE, I AM GOING TO CLOSE

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GOVERNORS PARK SOUTH. >> SO MOVED, MR. CHAIR.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY

AYE. >> AYE.

>> ANY NAYS, LIKE SIGN. THE SECOND ITEM IS THE ORDINANCE TO CREATE GOVERNORS PARK SOUTH CDD. WE ARE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AN ORDINANCE WHICH ESTABLISHES THE GOVERNORS PARK SOUTH CDD. SEEING NONE HEARING NONE, WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK FOR THE COMMISSION FOR A VOTE.

>> I MAKE A MOTION. >> MR. CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION

TO APPROVE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ORDINANCE CREATING GOVERNORS PARK SOUTH CDD. ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? SEEING NONE HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> PASSES. 5-0.

>> MR. CHAIR, BEFORE WE PROCEED, MAY I? JUST SO OUR COUNTERPARTS CAN PUT A FACE TO THE NAME, MIKE IS WHO I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH IN THE OAKLEY AREA WITH THE CDD TO BRINGING ABOUT THE TRANSFER OF THE LAND FROM THE CDD TO THE COUNTY'S POSSESSION SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LIBRARY OUT THERE. HE HAS BEEN AN INTIMATE A PARK IN DISCUSSIONS AND MAKING ME AWARE OF WHAT THE CITIZENS HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT WAY. SO I WANT TO RECOGNIZE YOUR EFFORTS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

[18.  First Public Hearing to Consider the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Annual Action Plan for FY 2024-25 (M. Covey)]

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH AS WELL. IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING

WITH YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> ITEM NUMBER 18 IS A FIRST PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE CDD -- I'M SORRY. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT ANNUAL

ACTION PLAN. MEGAN? >> GOOD EVENING. MEGAN COVEY WITH THE GRANTS DEPARTMENT AND TONIGHT, WE ARE ANNOUNCING THE BEGINNING OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR THIS NEXT SCHOOL YEAR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN. WE ARE ESTIMATED TO RECEIVE ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS FROM HUD. THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE RECEIVED IN PRIOR YEARS. PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WAS RUN FOR 40 DAYS FROM TODAY, JUNE 11TH THROUGH TUESDAY JULY 10TH.

DURING THAT TIME, WE WILL HAVE THREE PUBLIC OUTREACH MEETINGS IN THE COMMUNITY . THE FIRST BEING MONDAY, JUNE 17TH AT 6 P.M. AT THE KEYSTONE HOW YOU IS TOWARD PAVILION. THE SECOND BEING JUNE 17TH 18 X! P.M. AT THE PUBLIC LIBRARY AND THE THIRD BEING THURSDAY JUNE 27TH AT ORANGE PARK PUBLIC LIBRARY.

WE HAVE TONIGHT PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL BRING BACK ALL FINAL PUBLIC COMMENTS IN THE PROPOSED ANNUAL ACTION PLAN FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR AT THE JULY 23RD ECC MEETING.

>> WHEN IS IT DUE AT HUD? >> AUGUST 15TH.

>> AUGUST 15TH. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MEGAN?

>> I HAVE ONE, MR. CHAIR. SO THE ONLY FEEDBACK THAT I HAVE IS I THOUGHT YOU WERE A LITTLE BIT LOW ON THE ESTIMATION OF NUMBER OF PEOPLE HELPED BY THE COMMUNITY CLEANUPS WHEN IT WAS

ONLY SET AT 100. >> I THINK IT IS MORE THAN THAT. CERTAINLY WITH THE ONE IN TANGLEWOOD AND THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN IN MY DISTRICT AS WELL. SO, I DON'T KNOW. IT IS REPORTING TO HUD AND THOSE WERE THE PEOPLE THAT WE COULD DOCUMENT THAT ATTENDED THE CLEANUPS. THAT IS PROBABLY

CLOSER TO THAT NUMBER. >> YES. I THINK DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, WE WILL GET A BETTER SENSE OF THE TARGET AREAS ARE FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR SO WE CAN CERTAINLY ADJUST THAT MATRIX AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO A PROPER PLAN.

>> OKAY. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MEGAN?

>> OKAY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO WE WILL OPEN FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT ENTITLEMENT RENT. SO ANY QUESTIONS ? THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES IN THE FUTURE TO INPUT TO THIS PLAN FOR 24-25? YES. 24-25. SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR

ACTION. >> ACTUALLY, NO ACTION AT THIS

TIME. >> NO ACTION?

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>> WE WILL BRING IT BACK ON JULY 23RD FOR ACTION.

[19.  Public Hearing on Petition to Vacate a Portion of Railroad Ave ROW]

>> THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 19 IS THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PETITION TO VACATE A PORTION OF RAILROAD AVENUE RIGHT OF WAY.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. RICHARD SMITH. CLAY COUNTY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. THIS PETITION IS FOR A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT TOOK A LOT OF RESEARCH TO FIND BUT SOMEONE DID. APPARENTLY IN THE 1800S WHEN THE RAILROAD WAS BUILT, THERE WAS A ROAD ADJACENT TO IT ON THE EAST SIDE CALLED RAILROAD AVENUE AND THE RESEARCHER, IN THIS CASE THE SURVEYOR TITLE COMPANY, DISCOVERED A PORTION OF IT SOUTH OF COUNTY ROAD 220 KIND OF ACROSS THE RAILROAD FROM OUR SLEEPY HOLLOW PUBLIC WORKS PIT.

AND IT IS NOT IMPROVED. THERE IS NO ROAD THERE. IT IS JUST A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY COULD PROBABLY EXPLAIN MORE AS TO WHY IT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP. WERE CLEARED

UP. >> ACTUALLY, THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE. SHE MIGHT WANT TO PROVIDE SOME

COMMENTS. >> SUSAN FRAZIER. SETH CLAIM 37 PARK STREET IN JACKSONVILLE. THIS PARTICULAR ROAD OF RAILROAD AVENUE WAS PART OF A PLAT IN 1908 AND WAS REPLANTED SHORTLY THEREAFTER IN ANOTHER PLAT BOOK. SO IT IS CLOSE TO OUR NORTH, IT IS CLOSE TO OUR SOUTH A LITTLE REMAINING PIECE ON THIS PROPERTY THAT HAS JUST -- NO ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN TO DATE SO THIS IS AN ORDER TO CLEAR A TITLE ON THIS PROPERTY.

>> WHO IS THE APPLICANT? >> THE APPLICANT IS FLEMING INDUSTRIAL . FLEMING INDUSTRIAL PARK LLC. THEY OWN THE PROPERTY

TODAY. >> AND HOW BIG IS THE PROPERTY?

>> THE PROPERTY IS ABOUT 18 ACRES IN TOTAL.

>> 18. I KNOW IT WAS FAIRLY LARGE.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR SUSAN? THANK YOU, SUSAN.

>> THANKS. >> THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS VACANT RAILROAD AVENUE. I AM GOING TO PLACE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION.

>> I HAVE NOTHING FOR THE DISCUSSION, MR. CHAIR, BUT I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO GO ALONG WITH THE RECOMMENDATION BY OUR CHIEF ENGINEER TO VACATE THAT PORTION OF THE RAILROAD AVENUE.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE VACATION OF A PORTION OF

RAILROAD AVENUE RIGHT-OF-WAY. >> SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I AM AT.

>> AYE. >> ANY NAYS, LIKE SIGN. PASSED

[20.  Public Hearing on Petition to Vacate a Portion of Seminole Ave ROW]

THAT. >> WE ARE GOING TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE TO THE JUNE 25TH MEETING.

>> BUT WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED SO WE HAVE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO YOU WANT TO DESCRIBE WHAT WE ARE GOING

TO CONTINUE TILL JUNE 25TH? >> THIS IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY.

SMALL RIGHT-OF-WAY SOUTH OF SHEDD ROAD. CONTINUOUSLY SHEDD ROAD THAT HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY VACATED TO THE NORTH AND THERE ARE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS INVOLVED. ONE PETITIONER AND ONE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE WEST AND IT WILL JUST KIND OF CONSOLIDATE THE PETITIONERS PROPERTY INTO ONE PARCEL.

>> THE REASON WE ARE CONTINUING IS BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HAD FULL CONVERSATION WITH THE PETITIONER.

>> AND THE PETITIONER IS OUT-OF-STATE.

>> THAT IS A REASON WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE IT.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. I OPENED PUBLIC HEARING TO ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE VACATE OF SEMINOLE AVENUE. HEARING AND SEEING THEM, WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING . I GUESS WE

NEED A MOTION TO CONTINUE? >> MR. CHAIR, I MOVED TO CONTINUE TO THE JUNE 25TH MEETING FOR ITEM 20.

>> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 20. THE VACATION OF A PORTION OF

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MAC. >> AYE.

>> ALTERNATE, SAME SIGN. PASS AGAIN IMMENSELY. WE HAVE ANOTHER PETITION TO VACATE A PORTION OF MELROSE ROAD AVENUE.

>> MELROSE ROAD IS LOCATED NEAR THE BRADFORD PUTNAM CLAY COUNTY . AND THE PETITIONER OWNS BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD. IT IS APPROXIMATELY 1.1 MILES LONG . IT DONATES CONNECTS STATE ROAD 21 TO A PUBLICLY MAINTAIN AND PRESCRIPTIVE PORTION OF MELROSE ROAD, WHICH THEN TIMES INTO A COUNTY ON RIGHT-OF-WAY MELROSE ROAD THAT CONTINUES TO COUNTY ROAD 214. IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT ROW TO MAINTAIN. I HAVE THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR HERE AS WELL AS PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR IN THE HOUSE. ERIC POLK AND MIKE TODD. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MAINTENANCE OF THE ROAD AND THE SCOPE OF THAT, THE ROAD IS A NARROW ROAD FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT. IT IS NOT TWO LANES WIDE. WE HAVE SOME CONCERNS OVER THE SAFETY OF DRIVERS, ESPECIALLY IN LIMITED VISION TIMES AT TIMES OF NIGHT AND DURING WEATHER EVENTS. THEN THEY CAN'T SAFELY PASS. AGAIN, AS THERE IS ONLY ONE PROPERTY OWNER OF BOTH SIDES OF THIS ROAD, THE SIGNS WERE POSTED AND IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, REALLY, I THINK IT IS ABOUT ALL WE HAVE. WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ENGINEERING AND THE SAFETY OF THE ROAD AND THERE ARE OTHER ACCESS POINTS AND ROUTES TO GET TO THE RESIDENCE THAT ARE ON THE ROAD NOW.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR RICHARD? I HEARD ONE COMMENT ABOUT EMERGENCY ACCESS . DO WE USE THAT ROAD AT ALL FOR EMERGENCY

SERVICES? >> I THINK CHIEF LEROY IS HERE AND ACHIEVE A MOCK. I WOULD LIKE THEM TO SPEAK TO THAT. THE

SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS NOT IN. >> OKAY. JASON IS HERE.

>> OH, YES. >> JASON MORAY. NO, SIR. WE DON'T CURRENTLY USE THAT SECTION. WE HAVE ACTUALLY REQUESTED FOLKS NOT TO DRIVE DOWN THAT ROAD BECAUSE OF THE

CONDITION OF THE ROADWAY. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.

[21.  Public Hearing on Petition to Vacate a Portion of Melrose Rd ROW]

>> YES, SIR. >> I AM GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. CONCERNING THE VACATION PORTION OF MELROSE ROAD. SIR, I SAW YOUR HAND UP FIRST SO, COME, PLEASE. I NEED

YOU TO IDENTIFY YOUR NAME . >> I AM JOYCE IF JOSEPH FOYE .

I LIVE AT 8296 MELROSE ROAD. I AM A RESIDENT ON THE ROAD. I USE IT EVERY DAY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER TO GO OUT. WE, AS A MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENCE THAT LIVE ON THE ROAD ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE INCREASE OF TRAFFIC THAT HAS OCCURRED OVER THE YEARS AND IS NO DOUBT GOING TO INCREASE MORE AS THE ROAD IS IMPROVED TO THE NORTHEAST. IT IS HORRENDOUS AT TIMES. IN PAST, MY WIFE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE MY DAUGHTER DOWN TO THE INTERSECTION AT LILY LAKE ROAD TO GET ON THE SCHOOL BUS. TWO TIMES, CARS OR VAN CAME THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION WHILE THE SCHOOLBUS LIGHTS ARE FLASHING AND JUST ABOUT HIT MY DAUGHTER.

THAT IS IN THE PREDAWN HOURS. IT IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC. I, MYSELF, AND I'M SURE OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT DISAGREE BUT FROM WHAT I HAVE TALKED TO, THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE -- AND I GAVE BETSY A LIST OF PEOPLE OR MORE PEOPLE HERE THAT DID NOT SIGN THAT THAT AGREE WITH ME . IT NEEDS TO BE CLOSED OFF . THE ROAD THAT GOES THROUGH THE WOODS , THE GENTLEMAN WAS SAYING THAT THE OWNER OWNS BOTH SIDES. HE ALSO OWNS THE ROAD.

THERE IS NO RIGHT-OF-WAY THROUGH THE WOODS THERE. IT IS A VERY NARROW LANE. IT IS VERY POORLY MAINTAINED. WE HAVE ALREADY HAVE ONE DEATH THAT I KNOW OF RUN INTO A TREE ON THE

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>> OKAY, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS. MA'AM, I THINK YOU WERE NEXT? COME ON UP HERE AND IF YOU COULD FILL OUT A CARD WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR OUR RECORDS. GO AHEAD AND HAND IN YOUR CARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR

THE RECORD PLEASE. >> YES. MY NAME IS NANCY BUDGE AND I LIVE AT EIGHT 449 LILY LAKE ROAD WHICH CONNECTS TO MELROSE ROAD. MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED OUT THERE SEVERAL YEARS AGO NOW AND WHEN I DIDN'T KNOW ANY BETTER, I DID TAKE THAT ROAD TO 221 AND IT IS A VERY NARROW ROAD. THERE ARE TWO MAJOR CURVES IN IT THAT I ALMOST HAD HEAD ON COLLISIONS WITH PEOPLE THAT WERE DRIVING, I WOULD SAY, CLOSE TO 45 OR 50 ON THE ROAD, WHICH IT WON'T HANDLE THAT. SCARED ME TO DEATH. THE ROAD NEEDS TO BE CLOSED BECAUSE THIS GENTLEMAN WANTS IT, THAT OWNS IT. THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS IT. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SERVICES TO BE ABLE TO GET TO US. MY HUSBAND IS HANDICAPPED AND I MIGHT NEED TO CALL SOMEONE TO COME HELP ME AND IT WOULD BE NICE IF THEY COULD GET THERE NO MATTER WHAT THE WEATHER IS. SO THAT IS MY

STATEMENT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES,

SIR. COULD YOU FILL OUT A CARD? >>

>> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> YES, SIR. MY NAME IS COREY MEAD. I LIVED THERE SINCE 2018.

I AM THE LAST HOUSE ON THE SOUTHWESTERN SIDE, SO I AM THE PORT AT WHICH EVERYBODY SPEEDS UP AND GOES AND I'M ALSO ON THE SIDE WHERE EVERYBODY IS SLOWING DOWN FROM THE WOODS SO THEY DON'T CRASH THEIR CARS. RECENTLY, IT HAS BECOME A SPEEDWAY FOR FOUR WHEELERS, DIRT BIKES, AND SIDE BY BIKES.

ALL DAY LONG. I WITNESSED IT ALL DAY LONG. THEY JUST PUT UP A 25-MILE-PER-HOUR SIGN. OUT THERE, IT IS MORE OF A RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE NOBODY DRIVES 25. WITH THAT ROAD BEING SITUATED THE WAY IT IS, THERE IS NO REALLY WAY TO ENFORCE THAT. POLICE OFFICERS HAVE NOWHERE TO SIT OUT THERE TO ENFORCE A 25 PER MILE OUR ZONE. LIKE JOE SAID, IT HAS BECOME THE LOCAL DUMP IF YOU WANT TO DUMP FURNITURE, IF YOU WANT TO DUMP ANIMAL CARCASSES, IF YOU WANT TO DUMP YOUR HEADS THAT YOU DON'T WANT, THEY GO RIGHT THERE. BECAUSE -- WE HAVE DOGS RUNNING UP AND DOWN OUR ROAD ALL DAY LONG AND HAVE THREE YOUNG CHILDREN. SO DON'T WANT A PEOPLE DECKING MY KIT. THAT IS MY CONCERN. I HAVE THREE KIDS THAT LIVED IN GO TO KEYSTONE ELEMENTARY. I LIVE APPROXIMATELY 1000 FEET BETWEEN LAKE AND WHERE I LIVE AT. THERE IS NO WAY I WOULD EVER LET MY CHILDREN WALK HOME FROM THE BUS STOP. IT IS NOT A POSSIBILITY.

SO, I PAY OUT-OF-POCKET FOR AFTERSCHOOL CARE SO I CAN GET TO THEM SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO WALK DOWN THE ROAD. THAT IS HOW TERRIBLE IT IS. I UNDERSTAND IT IS GOING TO BE A BURDEN FOR A

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>> THANK YOU. I WILL FILL A CART OUT.

>> YES, SIR? >> ONCE AGAIN, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND PLEASE FILL OUT A CARD SO WE

HAVE A RECORD. >> MY NAME IS KENT FEAGIN. I LIVE AT 8230 MELROSE ROAD AND I AM ALSO A PROPONENT FOR CLOSING THIS ROAD. WE GET SO MUCH THROUGH TRAFFIC THROUGH THEIR PEER IT IS A THOROUGH FEAR. I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF TIME THEY ARE SAVING COMING DOWN THERE BUT IT IS MAKING THE REST OF THE ROAD ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO DRIVE ON. I MEAN, I HAVE GOT MIRRORS ON MY TRUCK. ONE OF THEM HAS BROKE OFF BECAUSE OF THE ROAD IS SO JUMPY BUMPY AND I KNOW THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE REST TO GET THE REST OF THE ROAD, BUT THE GOOD PART OF THE ROAD WHERE EVERYBODY LIVES ONTO EXIT OUT ONTO 14. MORE RECENTLY, I JUST HAD SOME PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS TO MY PROPERTY AND I HAD A GUY COME FROM IT WAS EITHER OCALA OR GAINESVILLE AREA AND GOOGLE MAPS SENDS DOWN AN 18 WHEEL TRUCK , A BIG SEMI TRUCK WITH AN EXCAVATOR ON IT AND HE HAD A COMEDOWN MELROSE ROAD BECAUSE GOOGLE MAP WILL SEND EVERY TRUCK, EVERY TRAILER , DOWN THAT ROAD. AND IF HE WOULD HAVE MET ANOTHER BIG TRUCK, SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HAVE TO BACK UP FOR MILES TO LET ONE GET BY THE OTHER. AND RIGHT NOW, IF WE KNOW IT IS JUST NEIGHBORS THAT ARE BLASTING DOWN THAT ROAD, WELL, WE WILL KNOW IT IS NEIGHBORS. RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE PEOPLE COME THROUGH THEIR JUST FOR A CUT OFF. SO I REALLY RECOMMEND CLOSING THE ROAD . IT IS DANGEROUS. I HAVE ALMOST HAD IT TWO HEAD ON COLLISIONS. I HAVE BEEN GUILTY OF GOING DOWN THE ROAD. IT IS CONVENIENT TO RUN DOWN TO THE ACE HARDWARE. BUT I JUST DON'T USE THE ROAD ANYMORE. IT IS TWO MAJOR IS. MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO SHUT THAT PART OF IT DOWN. GIVE THE MAN HIS LAND BACK BECAUSE HE OWNS THE LAND THAT BORDERS -- THE HAVE A ONE LANE ROAD. AND DUMPS TIRES, MATTRESSES , LIKE YOU SAID. CAR PARTS. I KNOW HE HAS ALMOST HAVE POSTEL CITATIONS BECAUSE OF LITTERING ON HIS PROPERTY. WELL, HE IS NOT THE ONE DOING IT. IT IS PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE DOWN THE ROAD. THEY RANDOMLY COME IN AND DUMP STUFF. SO IT NEEDS TO BE CLOSED. IT IS MY OPINION.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? YES, SIR.

COME ON UP. YOU ARE NEXT. BLUE SHIRT, NEXT.

>> WILLIAM BECK. I LIVE AT 8485 LILY LAKE ROAD. I HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 20 YEARS. MY WIFE, CAROL, IS A REGISTERED NURSE IN GAINESVILLE AND SHE DRIVES THIS ROAD EVERY DAY. SHE DRIVES AT LEAST TWICE EVERY DAY. EVERY DAY SHE IS WORKING. SHE IS WORKING FIVE DAYS A WEEK. SHE HAS HAD NO ACCIDENTS IN 27 YEARS. SHE IS A 27 YEAR NURSE. IT WILL BE 20 YEARS IN AUGUST.

WE WANT TO KEEP MELROSE ROAD OPEN. THAT IS THE EASY ACCESS FOR US. SAVES US ABOUT 3.2 MILES EACH DIRECTION . WHEN YOU ADD THAT UP OVER THOSE YEAR PERIOD, IT WINDS UP BEING OVER 50 HOURS OF HER TIME. 1600 EXTRA MILES AND ABOUT 224 IN FUEL. SHE HAS A VERY FUEL-EFFICIENT CAR. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THAT OVER 20 YEARS, YOU ARE LOOKING AT 32,000 MILES THAT SHE CAN SAVE BY GOING DOWN MELROSE ROAD. SHE HAS HAD NO

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YOU COULD NOT GET AN MS OR A FIRE TRUCK AROUND THAT. A VEHICLE, A SMALL VEHICLE COULD GET AROUND THAT ROAD WAS EFFECTIVELY CLOSED BETWEEN LILY AND STATE ROAD 214 , SO ANY EMERGENCY SERVICES WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO ONLY AROUND MELROSE ROAD FROM 21 TO COME INTO LILY. WE HAVE ELDERLY RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA. SO, MELROSE ROAD ALSO FACES OF THE PACKAGES. I HAVE RUN INTO SITUATIONS WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN MOBILE HOMES DELIVERED AND ALSO SHED. YARD SETS. YOU CANNOT GET AROUND THOSE GUIDES EVEN ON THE WHITE PART OF MELROSE ROAD AND LILY 214. THE GARBAGE ISSUES I UNDERSTAND. IT IS HORRIBLE THAT IS A COUNTYWIDE ISSUE. YOU HAVE A VERY LIMITED NUMBER OF HOURS AT THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS AND THERE IS A LACK OF CONVENIENCE TO YOUR CITIZENS. HISTORICALLY, THE MAPS ON USGS GO BACK TO 1935 SHOWING MELROSE OPEN. I THINK IT GOES BACK IN THE 1800S. I THINK IT IS A SHAME TO CLOSE IT. FURTHERMORE, I DON'T SEE ANY TRAFFIC INFORMATION, ANY ADT OR VEHICLES PER DAY COUNTS FROM ENGINEERING AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BEFORE YOU EVER THINK ABOUT CLOSING THAT ROAD. YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE USE IT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. AND IF YOU COULD FILL OUT A CARD PLEASE BEFORE YOU LEAVE. THANK YOU. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS PEYTON CAPPER. I AM ALSO FORECLOSING THE ROAD. IT IS USED AS A CUT THROUGH ROAD FROM COUNTY ROAD 214 TWO STATE ROAD 221. THE VEHICLES CUTTING THROUGH THAT ROAD ARE USING IT AS A SHORTCUT, THEREFORE THEY ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE 24 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT. EASILY DOUBLING THAT. I AM ON THE SOUTH END OF THE ROAD. SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE MOST AFFECTED BY THE CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC VEHICLES ARE TRAVELING AT THAT SPEED ON ROADS THAT ARE SO WASHBOARD CREATES SUCH A ROAR AND RUMBLE, YOU CAN HEAR THEM COMING FROM ALMOST THE OTHER END OF THE ROAD A MILE AWAY. THE NOISE, AS WELL AS YOU CAN FEEL IT INSIDE OUR HOMES AND IT CREATES A BLANKET OF DUST EVERY TIME, ESPECIALLY IN THE CONDITIONS THAT WE ARE RIGHT NOW INTO OUR PROPERTIES.

REALLY A NUISANCE. THE SAFETY IS A BIG ISSUE AS WELL. CARS THAT ARE TRAVELING DOWN NARROW ROADS AT THAT RATE OF SPEED BECAUSE THEY ARE CUTTING THROUGH USING THE SHORTCUT. I HAVE TWO TEENAGE DRIVERS. I WOULD NEVER LET MY SONS DRIVE ON THE END OF THE ROAD AND I AM ALWAYS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THEM PULLING OUT INTO TRAFFIC ONTO THAT ROAD WITH THOSE CUT THROUGH DRIVERS THAT ARE NOT RESIDENTS OF THE AREA SPEEDING THROUGH TO GET WHERE THEY ARE GOING. IT DEFINITELY PROVIDES A SAFETY ISSUE AS WELL AS , YOU KNOW, IT WOULD IMPROVE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE IF THAT END OF THE ROAD WAS CLOSED. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. SIR, I THINK YOU WERE NEXT? BACK HERE WITH THE

ARMLESS SHIRT. COME ON UP. >> MY NAME IS JAMES DODIE O'KELLY. I LIVE AT 8350 OLD LAKE LANE. JUST OFF OF MELROSE ROAD. I HAVE BEEN LIVING THERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS BUT I HAVE BEEN ON THAT ROAD FOR MOST OF 20 BECAUSE OF FAMILY AND FRIENDS. I GREW UP IN THAT AREA AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE TRASH ISSUE IS A BIG THING AND IT IS TERRIBLE. ME AND MY FAMILY HAVE SPENT HOURS OF OUR OWN TIME PICKING THAT TRASH UP OURSELVES. I USED TO HAUL IT INTO WORK WITH ME. I WORKED AT WASTE PRO. I USE THAT ROAD FREQUENTLY. THE CUT THROUGH ROAD GOING THROUGH SAVES TIME AND IT ALSO HAS -- IT SAVED ME IN GETTING IN ACCENTS BECAUSE I HAVE HIT TWO DEAR ON 214 ITSELF GOING TO WORK AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING AS OPPOSED TO GOING THROUGH THERE. I DON'T DRIVE AS FAST BECAUSE OF THE ROAD AND I HAVE NOT HAD AN ISSUE YET. AND I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT EXPERIENCES THAT. THE ROAD HAS BEEN NEGLECTED, BUT I MEAN, EVEN WE HAVE -- I HAVE A REAL ROAD IRON. THERE OTHER PEOPLE THAT BEEN IN THE AREA THAT HAVE SEEN ME DO IT. I HAVE DRUGGED THE ROAD MYSELF TRYING TO MAKE IT BETTER AND I DON'T THINK

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YOU. >> THANK YOU. SIR, BLUE SHIRT.

>> GOOD EVENING. I AM KENNETH BARRY FROM 8262 MELROSE ROAD. I LIVED ON MELROSE ROAD SINCE ABOUT 1998. I HAVE BEEN USING MELROSE ROAD SINCE ABOUT 1987 WHEN MY SISTER MOVED TO THAT PART OF MELROSE ROAD. I KNOW THAT THE END OF THE ROAD THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE CLOSED IS NOT MAINTAINED WELL, BUT MY BIG QUESTION IS, WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION HERE WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO. THERE WAS A PETITION TO CLOSE IT. WE WENT THROUGH HEARINGS AND WE AGREED THAT IT -- YOU AGREED THAT IT WAS GOING TO REMAIN OPEN. NOTHING HAS CHANGED. THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY HAS CHANGED WAS FOR A YEAR, A YEAR AND A HALF, THE COUNTY STOPPED MAINTAINING THAT END OF THE ROAD AND IT GOT PROGRESSIVELY WORSE. POTHOLES GOT BIGGER. PUDDLES GOT BIGGER . YEARS AGO, THE COUNTY ACTUALLY CAME THROUGH ABOUT ONCE EVERY 2 TO 3 YEARS. THEY WOULD GET A WORK CREW FROM ONE OF THE LOCAL PRISONS OR JAILS.

THEY WOULD CLEAN UP TRASH. THAT SOLVED A LOT OF THAT PROBLEM.

THAT STOPPED. THAT STOPPED BEFORE COVID. SO IT HAS PROBABLY BEEN FIVE YEARS IS MY BEST GUESS SINCE EVERYBODY HAS COME THROUGH AND DONE A MAJOR CLEANUP. THE COUNTY WAS MAINTAINING IT. THEY WERE SPENDING THE MONEY TO MAINTAIN THE ROAD. THEY STOPPED DOING THAT. THEY STOPPED DOING TRASH PICKUP. MY QUESTION IS WHY . THIS ROAD HAS BEEN IN USE FOR YEARS. AND AT THE PREVIOUS HEARING THAT WE HAD 15 YEARS AGO OR SO, WE HAD RESIDENTS THAT WERE SAYING THAT THEY HAD BEEN USING IT FOR 70 TO 80 YEARS. THEY ARE UNFORTUNATELY NO LONGER WITH US. I THINK IT BEHOOVES THE COUNTIES ACTUALLY LOOK BACK TO NOTE ABOUT WHAT THE DECISION WAS BEFORE AND WHY THE DECISION WAS LEFT TO KEEP THE STREET OPEN . I AM IN FAVOR OF KEEPING IT OPEN. I AM SORRY ABOUT THE PEOPLE USING IT AS A PASS-THROUGH, BUT LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HAS AGREED, MOST OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE FLYING DOWN THE ROAD AT EXCESSIVE SPEEDS DON'T LIVE ON MELROSE ROAD. THE DON'T LIVE ON THE LAKE ROAD.

THEY ARE USING IT AS A CUT THROUGH. I CAN'T USE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, BUT I DO KNOW THAT IT IS A MAJOR INCONVENIENCE IF YOU HAVE TO GO INTO A LATCH WORK OR OCALA WORK AND TO GAIN WILL GAINESVILLE WAS CALIFORNIA. THERE IS AN EXTRA THREE MILES IS WHAT MY NEIGHBOR SAID SO I AM IN FAVOR OF

KEEPING IT OPEN. >> THANK YOU. AND I SAW A HAND IN THE BACK. YES, SIR. COME ON UP. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND

ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> NAME IS CURTIS AND I HAVE LIVED OUT THERE FOR A LONG TIME. I HAVE BEEN DRIVING THAT ROAD FOR 48 YEARS . I HAVE NEVER HAD AN ACCIDENT ON IT BUT IT HAS SAVED MY LIFE TWICE. ONCE WHEN THERE WAS A TREE DOWN BETWEEN LILY LAKE ROAD AND 214 AND THEY CAME IN AND GOT ME. I HAD BROKE MY NECK IN FIVE PLACES. AND ONCE MORE, IT SAVED MY LIFE WHEN I HAD A HEART ATTACK AND THEY HAD A TRAILER BLOCKING THE ROAD. AND THEY CAME OUT FROM THE OTHER END TO GET ME. NOW, RECENTLY, YES. I HAD ANOTHER HEART ATTACK BUT THE ROAD WASN'T UP TO , WHICH HAD THE COUNTY BEEN UP KEEPING IT AFTER THE SEVERE STORM WHICH HAD NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE. THE COUNTY HAS UP KEPT THIS ROAD FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. I KNOW, I HAVE BEEN THERE. BACK IN THE LATE 1800S, IT WAS USED AS A

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IS IMPORTANT. >> THANK YOU, SIR. COME ON UP, SIR. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> MY NAME IS LOGAN CURTIS. I LIVE AT 8358 LILLY ROAD JUST SHORTLY THERE. I HAVE LIVED THERE -- ACTUALLY I LIVED WITH MY GRANDFATHER DOWN THE ROAD JUST FOR THAT. EVER SINCE I COULD DRIVE, I HAVE BEEN USING THAT ROAD TO GO TO WORK TO GO TO GAINESVILLE. THAT ROAD HAS BEEN IMPERATIVE AND I HAVE NEVER HAD AN ACCIDENT. I NEVER HAD ISSUES WITH ANIMALS. ONLY TIME I EVER HAD ISSUES DOWN THE ROAD WAS WHEN I SMACK LET'S SEE. OTHER THAN THE HIGH-SPEED DRIVERS, THAT IS IT. I USE THAT ROAD CURRENTLY DAILY TO GO TO WORK IN NAPA. I USE AT LEAST FOUR TIMES EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT GOING TO CAR SHOWS AND CAR MEETS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THAT IS PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE TO SAY HONESTLY. IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS

SUBJECT? >> MY NAME IS JOANNE WINKLER. I

LIVE IN 84 -- >> PULL THE MIC DOWN.

>> I HAVE BEEN USING THE ROAD FOR 48 YEARS. WE USE IT WET OR DRIVE, DOESN'T MATTER. SOMETIMES IT IS WET AND YOU HAVE SOME PRETTY BIG PUDDLES TO NAVIGATE. I HAVE ALSO ALWAYS MET COMING THE OTHER DIRECTION ON THE ROAD. THERE IS AMPLE SPACE TO PULL OFF TO THE SIDE AND TO COMMAND TRAFFIC TO GO ON FIVE AND YOU GET A FRIENDLY WAVE. AND THAT IS WHAT I SUGGEST WE CONTINUE TO DO. YOU SHOULD BE FRIENDLY TO EVERYONE.

AND AS LONG AS YOU DO THAT, YOU CAN KEEP A SAFE TRIP ON THAT ROAD. I GET CONCERNED ABOUT IF THERE IS A FIRE SOMEWHERE ON MELROSE ROAD, HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET OUT WHEN WE ONLY HAVE THE FIRE ROAD TO LEAVE ON? WE MUST HAVE ANOTHER WAY TO GET OUT OF THE AREA AND I HOPE IT WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND LEAVE OUR ROAD OPEN. WE LOVE OUR ROAD AND

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? YES, SIR?

>> MY NAME IS REGGIE TOMLIN . I LIVE AT 680 COUNTY ROAD 219 AND MELROSE. ME AND MY FAMILY OWNED BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD AND THE ROAD. YOU'LL HAVE THE DESCRIPTIVE RIGHT THROUGH THERE. MY FAMILY HAS HAD THIS FOR ABOUT 90 YEARS. I WON'T EVEN GO DOWN THAT ROAD. I RECENTLY WENT DOWN IT ABOUT A WEEK AGO OR TWO WEEKS AGO TO PUT THE SIGNS UP. IT IS HARD TO GO DOWN AND LOOK AT YOUR OWN PROPERTY AT WHAT THE PEOPLE DO.

AND THROUGH THE YEARS, IT HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT TROUBLE TO OUR FAMILY. WE HAVE ABOUT 16/1700 ACRES THERE. IT BASICALLY SPLITS ABOUT A THIRD OF IT OFF. AND WE GROW TIMBER FOR INCOME AND HAVE TRIED TO KEEP IT ABOUT 40% OF IT IS WETLANDS. AND WE GET OFFERS CONSTANTLY TO SELL IT, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE. AND WE

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EVEN INSIDE IT ON THE SOUTH END ABOUT 10 FEET AND MY OPPOSITION TO CLOSING THAT ROAD WOULD COME AND REMOVE , TO THE GATES OFF, THEY STILL DO IT THIS THEY AND DESTROY THE GATES AND DEFENSES.

HE WENT UP TO MILTON TO WHERE HE CURRENTLY KEEPS ALL HIS COWS NOW AND WE HAVE HAD TO -- THE CENTER OF ALL THE TROUBLE IS WHERE THE MAJOR TRANSITION LINE THAT CROSSES MELROSE VILLA BUT HALFWAY DOWN WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD A MURDER THERE. BODIES DUMPED. TRASH. YOU CAN'T IMAGINE.

>> CAN YOU PUT FINISH UP, PLEASE. PLEASE SUMMARIZE,

PLEASE. >> ANYHOW, IT HAS BEEN A BIG BURDEN TO OUR FAMILY FOR MANY YEARS AND MIKE GRANDDADDY BUILT THE ROAD . WE HAVE ALL OF THE DOCUMENTATION AND THE MAPS AND EVERYTHING AND HE ONLY GAVE Y'ALL THE RIGHT TO GRADE IT BACK WHEN HE WAS SELLING PROPERTY FOR THAT PROPERTY AROUND LAKE AND ALL THAT WAS EVEN DEVELOPED OR ANYTHING. BUT ANYHOW, IT WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED IF IT CLOSES. OUR FAMILY HAS COME CLOSE TO SELLING THE PROPERTY JUST BECAUSE OF THAT ROAD AND WHAT WE ENDURED FROM IT. I COULD SIT HERE AND TALK FOR A MONTH OF SUNDAYS. BUT, ANYHOW.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE, I AM GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ASPECT AND BRING IT BACK TO

COMMISSION. >> MR. CHAIR, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS A COMPLICATED ISSUE. WE HELD A PUBLIC MEETING BACK IN DECEMBER . NOVEMBER/DECEMBER TIME FRAME. COUNTY ENGINEER , PUBLIC WORKS, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT , FIRE DEPARTMENT, COUNTY MANAGER ALL ATTENDED. WE HAD OVER 80 ATTENDEES AT THAT LOCATION. I HAVE HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF THE RESIDENCE THAT LIVE IN THE AREA AND ON MELROSE ROAD, UNTIL TONIGHT, MR. GARY IS THE FIRST PERSON WHO LIVES ON MELROSE ROAD THAT HAS INDICATED WANTING TO LEAVE IT OPEN. ALL OF THE OTHER RESIDENTS THAT LIVE DIRECTLY ON MELROSE ROAD HAVE ASKED TO SEE IT CLOSE. HAVE ACTUALLY SIGNED POSITIONS PETITIONS. I DID GET A PHONE CALL BEFORE OUR MEETING TONIGHT FROM A LADY WHO LIVES ON LILLY LAKE ROAD. SAID SHE COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT. HER QUESTION WAS ALSO ABOUT SAFETY EGRESS . SO I TOLD HER, WE DON'T USE THEIR NAMES. WE CAN'T READ IT INTO THE RECORD BUT I WOULD MAKE THAT MENTION. UNTIL TODAY, I HAVE HAD FOUR PEOPLE ASKED ME TO LEAVE IT OPEN AND THE REST, TO CLOSE IT.

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AND SO, IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION, BUT ULTIMATELY, I LEANED TO THE COUNTY ENGINEER'S RECOMMENDATION TO CLOSE THE ROAD. HE HAS EXPRESSED THAT HIS LICENSE , HIS ACTUAL PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING LICENSE COULD BE IN JEOPARDY IF WE WERE TO NOT VACATE THE ROAD AND THERE WERE TO BE AN ACCIDENT AND HE WAS CONCERNED AT THAT. DO YOU WANT

TO SPEAK TO THAT, RICHARD? >> YES, MA'AM. TO EXPAND ON THAT, THE ISSUE WITH LICENSE , YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE, PERIOD.

WHETHER YOU WORK FOR THE BIGGEST ENGINEERING COMPANY ON THE WORLD, OR THE 29TH COMPANY IN FLORIDA. I KNOW I HAVE GOT SOME PROTECTION FROM THE VEIL OF GOVERNMENT. I HAD A FRIEND THAT WAS SUED PERSONALLY FOR JUMPING OFF A BRIDGE HE DESIGNED. HE DID NOT PUSH THE GUY. HE HAD FINISHED DRAWING AND IT WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION THREE YEARS LATER. IF WE DO KEEP IT OPEN, WE REALLY HAVE GOT TO DO SOME SERIOUS, MAYBE MAKE IT A ONE WAY. ANYTHING. IT IS NOT SAFE AND I DON'T KNOW.

WE ALL WATCHED TELEVISION AND YOU CANNOT WATCH ALL WITHOUT SEEING AN ATTORNEY ON THEIR WANTING TO SEE SOMEONE. I DON'T KNOW HOW THE PERSON THAT HAD THE ACCIDENT THAT LOST THEIR LIFE DIDN'T COME AFTER THE COUNTY FOR THE COUNTY'S GOOD. AS SOON AS YOU GET OFF OF THAT DIRT PART, IT BECOMES'S OR TOMLIN'S PROPERTY. IT BECOMES MR. TOMLIN'S PROBLEM.

HE LOOKED BACK AT THE 1999 APPLICATION FOR CROZER CLOSER CLOSURE. HE WAS FINE FOR GARBAGE OTHER PEOPLE DUMP THERE. SO IT IS NOT OUR PROBLEM SO TO SPEAK, BUT THEY PROBABLY DID NOT HAVE ATTORNEY COMMERCIALS EVERY 30 SECONDS ON TELEVISION. I WOULD HAVE SOME CONCERNS. I DON'T KNOW IF MY FRIEND AND ATLANTA SUFFERED ANY ADVERSE FINANCIAL HARDSHIP WHEN THE GUY JUMPED OFF THE BRIDGE OVER ON PEACHTREE STREET THAT HE CERTAINLY SUFFERED SOME PERSONAL ISSUES. HE ENDED UP IN -- IT BOTHERED HIM A LOT. I WOULD WANT TO GET SOME SIGNAGE UP. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE DO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH MR. TOMLIN THAT IF THIS IS SUCCESSFUL, WE WILL HAVE AN EMERGENCY TURNAROUND AT THE END OF THE ROAD. HE WILL DEDICATE LAND TO THE COUNTY WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE URGENCY VEHICLES TURNAROUND THERE IF THEY HAVE TO SERVE SOMEONE ON THE SOUTHWESTERN END OF MELROSE ROAD. WE HAVE TO IMPROVE IT IF WE ARE GOING TO KEEP IT OPEN. IT IS NOT SAFE. IT IS NOT JUST -- MY MOM WENT OUT THERE. WE VISITED SOME OF THE GRAVE SITES. SHE SAW SOME FERNS. WE STOPPED AND PULLED SOME FERNS UP FOR HER YARD. PEOPLE HAD TO GO AROUND US. THAT OTHER TYPE OF FOLKS THAT LIVE OUT THERE BUT SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT DRIVE ON THIS ROAD DON'T LIVE ON THE. THEY FOLLOW GOOGLE MAPS. THEY'RE DRIVING AN 18 WHEELER WITH LOADS ON IT. THOSE PEOPLE WOULDN'T REALLY RESPECT A 79-YEAR-OLD LADY PICKING FERNS. SO, IT IS A CONCERN OF MINE PERSONALLY THAT THE ROADS STAY OPEN IF WE ARE GOING TO MAINTAIN TRAFFIC ON IT WITHOUT

SOME RESTRICTIONS. >> THANKS, RICHARD. SO, THIS IS DIFFICULT HAS NO MATTER WHAT DECISION WE MAKE, THERE WILL BE UPSET PEOPLE. I DID GO BACK. THE ISSUE CAME UP IN 1999. IT WAS IN FRONT OF THE BCC IN 2000. IT FAILED, 3-2 AND, OBVIOUSLY, I CAN'T GO BACK TO TALK TO ALL OF THOSE COMMISSIONERS TO FIND OUT WHY BUT AT ANY RATE, TODAY I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE VACATION PETITION .

>> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO VACATE A PORTION OF MELROSE

ROAD. >> MR. CHAIR, I WILL MAKE THE

SECOND TO DISCUSS. >> WHERE A MOTION AND DISCUSSION. WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR

DISCUSSION. >> FIRST OFF, IF I COULD, OBVIOUSLY COMMISSIONER CONDON HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THIS ISSUE A LOT LONGER THAN THE REST OF US AND SO SHE HAS BEEN EXPOSED TO MORE RESIDENTS WHO ARE AGAINST KEEPING IT OPEN OR

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>> COMMISSIONER, IT IS NOT OUR PROPERTY. I LOOK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER TO CAN SECURE IT. I DON'T WANT TO SPEND ANY COUNTY FUNDS OF THE 200,000 RESIDENTS TO PROTECT THIS ONE .14 MILE STRETCH OF DIRT ROAD, YOU KNOW? AT THE NORTHEASTERN END OF IT, WE ARE GOING TO PUT A PROPER MERCY TURNAROUND THERE AND WE WILL EXPAND THAT. WE HAVE SOME IMPROVEMENTS PLAN FOR THE ROAD IF WE CAN CLOSE IT. I DON'T WANT TO IMPROVE THE ROAD, THE PORTION THAT IS STAYING OPEN, TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO ADD TO THE AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC, WHICH PROBABLY ORDERS, I WOULD SAY, MUCH LESS THEN 500 A DAY. SO I WOULD LOOK TO MR. TOMLIN AND WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK OUT SOME SORT OF AN AGREEMENT TO HAVE THAT PROPERTY -- ODDLY ENOUGH, I AM NOT THAT CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE PEOPLE LIVE. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE ON STATE ROAD 21. THE PERSON WHO SAID THEIR PHONE

MADE THEM DRIVE THAT WAY. >> NO, IT DIDN'T. I HEARD MY KID HAD TO PAY A TOLL ON THE ROAD SHE DID NOT HAVE TO BE ON.

THE PHONE DID NOT MAKE YOU GO ANYWHERE BUT THE MAP ON IT WILL TELL YOU TO USE THIS ROAD. I AM GOING TO LOOK TO MR. TOMLIN AND WE WILL COME UP WITH A PRETTY BARRICADE SYSTEM TEMPORARILY AND LOOK FOR A PHYSICAL OWNER BARRIER FOR THE OWNER TO PUT

UP. >> THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND. IF WE COULD GIVE HIM RECOMMENDATION FOR BARRICADING TO POSITIVELY ELIMINATE TRAFFIC FROM USING THAT ROAD.

>> 100%. YES, SIR. >> THANK YOU. YES,?

>> THE SWEET LADY BACK THERE WHO SAID SHE IS WORRIED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO GET OUT IF THERE IS A TREE DOWN OR THERE IS NO OTHER WAY OUT. WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER

SEEN THIS ROAD . >> WHEN YOU GO UP MELROSE ROAD BETWEEN 214 AND LILY LAKE, WE HAVE, AS PART OF OUR ESTIMATE IF THIS IS SUCCESSFUL TONIGHT WITH THE VACATION OF IT, WE DO HAVE AS PART OF OUR 24/25 BUDGET THAT BEGINS IN OCTOBER THE PAVING PORTION OF THE LILY LAKE THAT WE HAVE, EXCUSE ME.

THE PAVING PORTION THAT WE OWN RIGHT-OF-WAY TOO. WE HAVE RIGHT-OF-WAY TO DO 14 JUST BEFORE YOU GET TO LILY LAKE ROAD. THAT WILL BE IMPROVED. THE REMAINING PART OF MELROSE ROAD WILL PUT BUILDINGS DOWN SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE IN THE CURRENT BILLINGS PROGRAM. ONE SIDE OF IT, COMMISSIONER BURKE, IS FIELDS AND PASTURES. A LOT OF IT ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF IT. DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES I DON'T THINK WITH TREES. ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE DO HAVE A 40 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY, WHICH MEANS THE ROAD IS IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. IT WOULD BE LIKE ANY OTHER PLACE. YOU WOULD WANT TO GET SOMEONE OUT THERE FROM PUBLIC WORKS TO GET IT CLEARED. TYPICALLY IN THESE EVENTS, LIKE A HURRICANE EVENT, THAT IS WHAT WE DO WITH EOC. ALL DAY LONG.

THOSE GUYS ARE OUT THERE WITH THEIR RAT CREW. RAPID RESPONSE CREWS OUT THERE CLEANING STUFF UP. I DO KNOW THIS. WE ARE PRETTY CONVINCED THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET ANY FIRE TRUCKS GOING DOWN THE ROAD COMING FROM PUTNAM COUNTY WERE FROM 21. YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN ASSURED THAT THAT IS NOT A

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>> THE OTHER THING FOR ME MAMA BEAR COMES OUT AND IT SADDENS ME AND BREAKS MY HEART TO HEAR THAT YOUR NEIGHBORS AND JOE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH EACH OTHER. SO, I HOPE Y'ALL CAN WORK THAT OUT BECAUSE YOUR HOME IS YOUR HOME. YOU WANT YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR KIDS AND EVERYBODY TO BE SAFE. NO WONDER PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE SAFE. SO, HOPEFULLY Y'ALL CAN BE GOOD TO EACH OTHER.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR MOTION? COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF MOVEMENT OF THE VACATION OF THE PORTION OF MELROSE ROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY SAY AYE.

>> AYE. ALL NAYS, SAME SIGN >> PASSES. 5-0. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING OUT. ITEM NUMBER

[22.  Final Public Hearing to consider adoption of COMP 24-0011 and ZON 24-0009. (District 5, Comm. Burke) (T. McCoy)]

>> ALL APPLICANTS OR AGENTS FOR APPLICANTS ? OKAY. IS THAT

EVERYBODY FROM 22 THROUGH 25? >> THIS IS FOR ALL OF THE

ITEMS. >> ALL OF THEM? NOT JUST THE

ONES. >> 20 THROUGH 26.

>> ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO BE OR ARE YOU NOT PRESENTING AT ALL? OKAY. DO YOU ALL SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE

TRUTH? >> YES.

>> THANK YOU, ALL. >> OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, CHAIR. WE ARE HERE TODAY TO CONSIDER COMP PLAN 24 00 11 AND THE COMPANION ZONING, 24 0009. THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST AND AGAIN, THE CONTAINED ZONING REQUEST. THE REQUEST WAS SUBMITTED BY DRY STORAGE ON BEHALF OF DRY STORAGE AND MOBILE MARINE.

DAVID PEPPER IS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR BOTH PARTIES. THIS APPLICATION IS TO SEEK A SMALL-SCALE PLAN USE AMENDMENT AND COMPREHENSIVE COMPANION REZONING FOR APPROXIMATELY FOUR ACRES OF LAND ACROSS TWO PARCELS OF LAND. THE REQUEST INVOLVES CHANGING THE LAND-USE DESIGNATION FROM RURAL FRENCH TO INDUSTRIAL AND THE COMPANION REZONING IS FOR AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL TO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. THE INTENTION OF THE PARTIES ARE FOR THE CONTINUATION OF THE EXISTING USE FOR THE MOBILE MARINE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY AND FOR A NEW STOCK BOAT STORAGE FACILITY ON MR. PEPPER'S POVERTY WHICH IS THE GREEN COAST DRY STORAGE. PUBLIC NOTIFICATION WAS PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC AS PER OUR CODE. BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THE PROPERTY IS THAT THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF STATE ROUTE 16. APPROXIMATELY ONE MILE WEST OF THE BRIDGE.

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MOBILE MARINE IS AGAIN ALREADY IDENTIFIED AS INDUSTRIAL ZONING AND THE RURAL FRIENDS, WHICH IS THE IN ORANGE. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, IT KIND OF GOES RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING. THIS IS WHY THE REQUEST WAS MADE SO THAT MOBILE MARINE CAN CONTINUE TO USE HIS PROPERTY AS INDUSTRIAL AS WELL AS THE GREEN COVE SPRINGS SPRINGS DRIVE STORAGE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO USE THIS PROPERTY AS WELL SO, THE FUTURE LAND USE ANALYSIS, WE LOOKED AT THE PARCEL FOR THE UTILITY SERVICES AND GREEN COVE SPRINGS WILL BE ABLE TO USE THE PROPERTY.

SCHOOL CONCURRENCY IS NOT REQUIRED. SOLID WASTE CAPACITY IS AVAILABLE. THE FROG OF THE OF THE PROPERTY IS RELATIVELY FLAT AND THE SITE IS NOT LOCATED IN A FLOOD WAY. THE PARCEL IS NOT LOCATED THROUGH NEAR CAMP LANDING. NO HISTORICAL STRUCTURES ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE PROPERTY AND THE SITE DOES NOT CONTAIN ANY REASONABLY SIGNIFICANT HABITATS. THE PROJECT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO CONCURRENCY MOBILITY PROGRAMS FOR OPEN SPACE AND TRANSPORTATION AND THE GENERATION FOR MARINA IS A ROUNDABOUT 35 PEAK HOUR TRIPS WHICH IS NOT SUBSTANTIAL FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED NEAR THESE MAJOR HIGHWAYS. THE LOT AND BUILDING LANDSCAPE AND PARKING BARRIER REQUIREMENTS FOR THE NEW ZONING OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL WOULD REQUIRE BARRIERS THAT WOULD ALLOW THE PROPERTY TO TRANSITION INTO THE RURAL FRENCH. DENSITY REQUIREMENTS IS ABOUT 11 UNITS IS WHAT IT IS ABLE TO DEVELOP RIGHT NOW AND IF IT WAS REZONED TO THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING, THAT WOULD BE 50%. THE EXISTING LAND USE, AGAIN, SHOWS THAT THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED FOR RURAL FRENCH AND INDUSTRIAL AND THAT RURAL FRENCH IS CUTTING INTO THE INDUSTRIAL PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. THE PROPOSED LAND-USE SHOWS HOW THE PROPERTY WILL BE CONSOLIDATED. THE ZONING ANALYSIS . AGAIN, THAT IS THE IB ZONING, ALSO CALLED HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. THE IB ZONING CONSTABLE IS AN AREA OF 50% AND THE PROPOSAL THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD ADHERE TO ALL OF THE IB ZONING REQUIREMENTS.

THE MUNICIPAL CONSERVATION AREA IS TO THE SOUTH INTO THE EAST.

AGAIN, IT IS INDUSTRIAL AND TO THE WEST IS THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. FROM THAT, WE HAVE AGAIN THE EXISTING ZONING THAT YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP THAT PRETTY MUCH CUT THROUGH THE PROPERTY AND WITH THE PROPOSED NEW ZONING, THE PROPERTY WOULD BE CONSOLIDATED AND THE USES WOULD BE SEPARATED APPROPRIATELY. SO, OUR FINDINGS. STAFF'S FINDINGS AT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO RURAL FRIENDS TO THE INDUSTRIAL LAND USE AND COMPANION REZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL TO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE LAND-USE CHANGE IS A LOGICAL TRANSITION CONSIDERING THE PROPERTY'S LOCATION AND IT'S SURROUNDED BY INDUSTRIAL USES AND ADJACENT MAJOR ROADWAYS. THE CHANGE PROMOTES

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COMP 24-0011. >> OKAY. SO, THERE IS AN LETTER A AND B. STAFF RECOMMENDS A COMP LAND CHANGE AS WELL AS A ZONING CHANGE. PUBLIC HEARING FOR BOTH SIMULTANEOUSLY? WELL,

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? >> YES, SIR. PATRICK KENNEDY. I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, THE AGENT. JUST TO KIND OF REALLY NOT OFFER A WHOLE LOT UNLESS YOU HAVE GOT MORE QUESTIONS OF US. OBVIOUSLY, WE BELIEVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION, AND THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION. WE OBVIOUSLY AGREE WITH THAT. I WILL SAY, WE WERE THE FIRST TEST CASE FOR THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE NEWLY CONSTITUTED. THEY DID A GREAT JOB. THEY STRUGGLED WITH ALL THE RIGHT ISSUES AND WE APPRECIATE THEIR EFFORTS ON OUR BEHALF. I ASK YOU AND OUR PLANNING COMMISSION TO LOOK THEM UP WHEN THEY ARE DEALING WITH ISSUES LIKE THIS. BUT WE WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO OFFER . STAFF DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.

>> THANK YOU. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY. NO QUESTIONS. I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON BOTH A COMP PLAN AND THE ZONING CHANGE. SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE, I AM GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMP 24-0011 AND ZONING 24-0009. BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR ANY COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? AND IF NOT, I WILL TAKE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER LETTER A, COMP PLAN 24-0011.

>> I RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND APPROVAL FOR THE COMP PLAN 24-0011. ANY COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? CONCERNS? SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AS THE AYE.

>> AYE. ALL NAYS, SAME SIGN. 5-0. ONTO THE ZONING CHANGE OF 24-0009. ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS , CONCERNS? IF NOT, I

WILL TAKE A MOTION. >> MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND YEAR . ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? SEEING NONE HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> PASSES. 5-0. THANK YOU VERY

[23.  First Public Hearing to consider adoption of ZON 24-0007. (BSC) (T. McCoy)]

AS WELL. >> YES. I DO. WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS ZONING 24-0007 THIS IS THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT.

AMENDMENT TO THE LAND LIMIT CODE. ORANGE PARK MALL LLC IS THE APPLICANT AND THE REPRESENTATIVE BRANDY FARBOCK FROM DEVELOPMENT MANAGER IS THE REPRESENTATIVE. THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT IS A REQUEST TO ALLOW HOTEL AS A PERMITTED USE WITHIN

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THAT PART? >> THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT WAS DONE ON THIS AND I DO SUPPORT IT. I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT. MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS MAYBE MORE BROAD.

CHARISSE MIGHT TAKE ME. IT IS PROBABLY MAYBE A BIT IMMATURE, BUT IN MY DISTRICT, THERE IS A PROPERTY THAT DID NOT AND READ NEED REZONING. SO IT DID NOT COME TO US. YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO ASK YOU. THEY ARE BUILDING YET ANOTHER EXTENDED STAY HOTEL ON IT AND I THINK THAT KIMBERLY HAS TOLD ME THIS RAISES CLAY COUNTY TO FIVE OF THESE PROPERTIES. SO IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN CHANGE THE LDC TO ALLOW FOR HOTELS AND NOT HAVE THESE EXTENDED-STAY HOTELS THAT KIND OF ATTRACT A CLIENTELE THAT WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN ATTRACTING?

>> I THINK THAT I WOULD HAVE TO TURN IT OVER TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR EXPLANATION BECAUSE THAT IS PRETTY MUCH THE DEFINITION OF A HOTEL IN THE STATE STATUTE, SO I AM NOT SURE IF WE CAN CHANGE THAT DEFINITION WITHIN OUR COUNTY

STATUTE. >> OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT IT. I KNOW IT HAS BEEN DONE NOT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS BEEN DONE IN FLORIDA, BUT I GOOGLED IT .

OF COURSE I DID. EVERYTHING ON GOOGLE IS RIGHT. IT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE EVERYONE WAS EXCITED ABOUT A HOTEL COMING TO MIDDLEBURG AND THEN WHEN IT WAS ANNOUNCED THAT IT WAS AN EXTENDED-STAY HOTEL, IT WAS A DISAPPOINTMENT. SO, ANYWAY, THAT IS MY TWO CENTS WORTH ON THAT BUT I FELT LIKE ASKING YOU THE QUESTION. AS FAR AS THESE CHANGES, THIS PINK CIRCLE IN KEYSTONE HEIGHT ARE THE PEAK SQUARES IN KEYSTONE HEIGHT MIGHT BE WELCOMED BUT IT WOULD TAKE THE RIGHT CLIENTELE, OBVIOUSLY. KEYSTONE IS NOT THE CENTER OF TOURISM BUT, ANYWAY.

>> THAT WAS AN ITEM OF PERSONAL DISCUSSION THAT I HAD AS WELL.

THEY DISCUSSED IT AND THE INTENT OF THIS IS NOT FOR AN

EXTENDED STAY. >> YES.

>> SO, IS BRANDY HERE? I DON'T SEE HER. ANYBODY? BRANDY?

BRANDY? LDPG ? NO? OKAY. >> STAFF'S FINDING IS THAT THE SHOPPING CENTER DISTRICT IS DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL USE WITH RETAIL AND SERVICE ACTIVITIES AND THE FACT THAT PERMITTING THE HOTEL USE WOULD COMPLEMENT THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY, IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW THE CONTINUED PROCESS OF A MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT, SO WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND NOT TO HAVE HOTELS IN THESE BSC DISTRICTS, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THEY ARE SMALLER DISTRICTS WHICH ONLY ALLOWS HER INCISED BUILDINGS WITHIN THOSE DISTRICTS.

ADDITIONALLY, DOES HAVE A PERMITTED USE WOULD BE STRATEGICALLY AND HALF THE ZONING ORDINANCE BY PROMOTING ECONOMIC VIABILITY AND ALIGNING WITH OUR BROADER URBAN PLANNING VOTES. PRIOR TO COMMISSION ACTION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED 5-02 RECOMMEND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE HOTEL AS A USE

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THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD SAY THE COMMISSION MIGHT WANT

TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT. >> WHAT IS THE ALLOWABLE --

>> THERE IS NO RESTRICTIONS ON HEIGHT FOR THIS DISTRICT SO THERE IS ONLY A RESTRICTION ON THE FOR AIR RATIO. THIS PROPERTY BEING THE LARGEST ONE IN THE DISTRICT WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROBABLY GO A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN SOME OF THESE OTHER ONES BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE PARCEL..

>> THAT DISCUSSION WOULD UNTIL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT THAT THEY

ARE CAPABLE AS WELL. >> THAT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE WHEN I WENT ON ON MOTOR SKIP DAY WHICH THANK YOU FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OF MY TOUR, I GOT TO GO ON THE BOAT. THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE BECAUSE ONE OF THE CAPTAINS WHO WAS ON OUR BOAT IS ALSO A CAPTAIN IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AT STATION 18 AND I HEARD HIM MAKE THE COMMENT TO CHIEF MACH OR CHIEF MOTTS THAT THEY NEEDED A LETTER TRUCK IN THE PAST THIS SO THAT IS PROBABLY WHY THEY ASKED THAT. BECAUSE THEY CURRENTLY

DON'T HAVE ONE, CORRECT? >> IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, NO JOKING ASIDE, RESPONDED TO A FIRE AT THAT LOCATION OF ANY HEIGHT , WHAT HEIGHT WOULD DRIVE THAT? DO YOU HAVE IT? I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT?

>>

>>

QUESTIONS. >> THE HOLIDAY INN IS SIX

FLOORS. >> OKAY. WHAT HEIGHT REQUIRES -- WE HAVE TRUCKS THAT CAN RESPOND, SO REALLY BEYOND SIX FLOORS, MAYBE NOT. RIGHT? OKAY. THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION.

>> BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS I HAD , THEY SAID THERE WOULD ONLY BE 123 ROOMS, WHICH WOULD MAKE THAT A LARGE HOTEL AT LEAST IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, VERTICAL.

>> SPEAKING FOR WPG, I CAN TELL YOU, THEY HAVE BEEN APPROACHED BY SOME MAJOR TRAINS TEAMS TO THE VISIBILITY OF PUTTING HOTEL ON THE PROPERTY. THE OTHER THING I CAN TELL YOU IS TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, WE TALKED ABOUT AN EMPATHY OR ON ONE OF THE PARCELS AND THIS WOULD BE A REPLACEMENT FOR AN AMBER THEATER, WHICH I BLESS 100%. THE OTHER THING IS, IT FALLS INTO -- RIGHT INTO THE GATEWAY TO CLAY INITIATIVE .

RESTORATION AND REBUILDING AND RESTORING. I THINK IT WOULD BE A WELCOME REPLACEMENT. THE OTHER THING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROPER TERM IS BUT IT IS NOT A FULL-SERVICE HOTEL. THERE WOULD NOT BE A RESTAURANT IN THE HOTEL. WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO IS DRIVE THAT PORTION OF THE SERVICE PART AND THE MALL WHICH WOULD HELP AS WELL. SO THEY WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THE

STRING BRIEF THROUGH AS WELL. >> MR. CHAIR, I THINK THE MIXED-USE IS SOMETHING THE COUNTY IS GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK INTO MORE AND MORE AS WE GO INTO MORE OF URBAN AREAS WHERE THERE IS LESS LAND. WE MAY HAVE TO SHARE THINGS THAT SIT ON THE SAME PARCEL. I THINK IN THIS CASE, IT HAS BEEN PROVEN AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT MALLS AND SHOPPING MALLS SORT OF WORK TOGETHER. I THINK THE KINDS OF BRANDS THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT CERTAINLY, DOES THAT SO THE COUNTY WOULD BENEFIT IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL TOURISM TAX. LET'S NOT FORGET, THE ORANGE COUNTY MALL IS UNDER ONE ROOF IF YOU COME CONSIDER ALL OF THE COMPANY'S WORKING . IT IS RIGHT THERE AND THE OTHER THING IS, I BELIEVE IT IS OVER $26 MILLION THAT THEY PAY IN TERMS OF PROPERTY TAX. SO IT BEHOOVES US TO WORK WITH THEM TO PUT WHATEVER WE CAN IN PLACE TO TRY TO MAKE THEM SUCCESSFUL.

WE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH AS A GOVERNMENT IN TERMS OF HELPING A PRIVATE INDUSTRY, BUT IN THIS CASE, I THINK IT IS WELL WORTH IT FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS AND I GUESS AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> WE HAVE TO HAVE FIRST PUBLIC.

>> FIRST PUBLIC HEARING. I WILL PUT IT ON THE TABLE. THAT IS THE WAY I WILL BE LOOKING AT IT THE FIRST TIME AROUND.

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>> BEFORE YOU DO THE FIRST MOTION, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ZONING CHANGE 24-0007. TO ADD A HOTEL AS A

PERMITTED USE. >>

>> PODIUM SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WOULD LIKE

TO PICK A MOTION. >>

SPEAKERS ] >> FIRST PUBLIC HEARING. THE FIRST. NOT DO FIRST. NOT FIRST DO.

>>

>> WASN'T DON'T DO IT FIRST. SOMEBODY PULL UP GRAMMARLY AND

CHECK ME. >> THANK YOU. SO, WE DON'T

VOTE ON THAT. WE JUST MOVE ON. >> YES. ON THE 25TH.

>> THANK YOU. GOOD JOB. >> THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 24 IS

[24.  First Public Hearing to consider ZON-24-0003. (Debris Facilities) (D. Selig)]

>> GOOD EVENING. SO, THIS ITEM WAS BEFORE YOU BACK IN MARCH AND IT IS THAT'S NOT THE STAFF HAS MADE SOME CHANGES BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BOARD. WE ARE BRINGING BACK A REVISED VERSION. THIS WOULD BE A CHANGE TO SECTION 3 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THESE OTHER CONDITIONAL USES AND 3.5 . SPECIFICALLY, THIS IS THE LAND CLEARING DEBRIS DISPOSAL FACILITY, WHICH IS PROPOSED TO ACTUALLY NOW BE CALLED THE LAND CLEARING OFF SIDE THE THREE DISPOSAL FACILITY. STAFF MAY NOTE CHANGES TO THE WORDING OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE USE. THE ONLY CHANGE WAS TO REMOVE THE USE FROM FOUR MORE OF THE DISTRICTS. WE TOOK IT OUT OF INDUSTRIAL SELECT. WE TOOK IT OUT OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. WE TOOK IT OUT OF THE PUBLIC OWNERSHIP THREE AND PRIVATE SERVICES 2. THE INDUSTRIAL SELECT IS INTENDED TO BE NEAR RESIDENTIAL AREAS . LIKE INDUSTRIAL IS INTENDED FOR MAINLY INDOOR USES. PUBLIC OWNERSHIP THREE HAS TO DEAL WITH HEAVY INDUSTRY THAT INVOLVES FUEL TO STORAGE. YOU WOULD WANT THIS USE NEAR THAT.

AND PRIVATE SERVICES IS REALLY GOLF COURSES, CLUB HOUSES, PARKS. THAT KIND OF THING. IT IS APPROPRIATE IN MOST DISTRICTS. THIS WILL LEAD TO USE AS INDUSTRIAL USE IN AGRICULTURE, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, IN PLANNED INDUSTRIAL, PUBLIC OWNERSHIP FOUR, WHICH IS RECYCLING CENTERS AND LANDFILLS

AND EXCAVATION. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR DODIE?

>> DODIE, REFRESH MY AND MEMORY AND FOR THE PUBLIC, AS COMMISSIONER USED MEAN THAT HAVE TO COME AND ASK FOR IT? ONLY THEY HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN THINGS?

>> THEY HAVE TO MEET THE CRITERIA THAT IS LISTED UNDER

THAT USED. YES. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DODIE? WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING FOR ZONING 24-0003. LAND CLEARING DEBRIS CHANGES.

SEEING NONE, HEARING ONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING

[25.  Final Public Hearing to consider adoption of COMP 24-0002 and ZON 24-0001. (District 5, Comm. Burke) (B. Carson)]

>> AGAIN. THIS IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.

>> WE ARE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 25. THE ADOPTION OF THE COMP PLAN 24-000 2 AND COMPANION ZONING 24-0001. THIS IS THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING FOR BOTH OF THESE ITEMS AND THE AGENT -- THAT IS THE RIGHT ONE. THE AGENT WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT ON THIS AND WE WILL FOLLOW UP AFTER THEY ARE THROUGH.

>> OKAY. MR. DENDOR IS THE AGENT.

>> IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE AFTERNOON.

>> YES. CASEY DENDOR. THIS IS ADOPTION PLANS FOR THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE ZONING PLAN APPLICATION. YOU HEARD THOSE TRANSMITTAL HEARINGS IN APRIL EARLIER THIS YEAR. SO TO ORIENT YOU WITH THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. WE ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE LAKE ASBURY AREA . TALK BETWEEN THE FIRST COAST

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LOOKING AT THIS BOX, YOU CAN SEE THE CHANGES IN THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS AND AS A RESULT OF THIS, THE 214 ACRES IN TOTAL, WE ARE TAKING 20 ACRES AND APPLYING IT TO THE GREENWAY AND THAT WILL PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL BUFFER FROM BRADLEY CREEK. IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU WILL SEE A SMALL BOX IN THE VILLAGE CENTER AREA THAT REMAINS AS NBC AND THE INTENT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS FOR A FUTURE FIRE STATION. THAT IS THE RELOCATION OF STATION 15 WHICH WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND STAFF ON AND THERE IS A AGREEMENT BEING DRAFTED AND REVIEWED BY STAFF. THE ZONING MAP IS A MERE IMAGE OF THE PLANNED USE MAP. SO ONE THING THAT IS REPOSED AS A RESULT OF THIS IS TO, AGAIN, MOVE THE VILLAGE CENTER DOWN TO THE SOUTH PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND RELOCATE THOSE AREAS . THE ONE THING THAT DOES NOT CHANGE IS THE RURAL FRINGE THAT IS LOCATED APPEAR IN THIS CORNER. THE EXISTING LAND USE HAS NBC FOR THAT LOCATION BUT CHANGING THE LOCATION TO NPC WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF THE MORATORIUMS AND THAT IS NOT PROPOSED. AND THE FIRE STATION SITE WOULD BE REZONED TO PUBLIC OWNERSHIP ONE AND THAT IS AT THE REQUEST OF STAFF. THIS MAP JUST SHOWS YOU THE AREA THAT IS PART OF THE EXTENT OF THE APPLICATION PRACTICES. THIS APPLICATION DID GO TO THE LAKE ASBURY CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE EARLIER THIS YEAR AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION.

ONE THING THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT WAS THE WALK ABILITY REQUIREMENTS IN LAKE ASBURY.

DURING THAT HEARING, WE EXPLAINED TO THEM THAT LAKE ASBURY DOES HAVE MORE SPECIFIC STANDARDS, MORE DETAILED STANDARDS THAN WE ARE REQUIRED IN YOUR TRADITIONAL REQUIREMENT CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. ONE OF THOSE OUTLINE THAT WALK ABILITY SHALL BE ACHIEVED THROUGH SIDEWALKS THROUGH SIDES OF THE STREETS. INTERCONNECTIVI TY BETWEEN ALL RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL USES , COMPACT DEVELOPMENT, WALKABLE FORUM, EVERYTHING ASSESSABLE BY SIDEWALK. SO ON AND SO FORTH.

ALL OF THIS WILL BE REVIEWED BY YOUR STAFF AT THE TIME THAT THE

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AND IN SUMMARY, THE PROPOSED CHANGES HAVE NO INCREASE IN DENSITY OR INTENSITY AND THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL IMPACT ON PUBLIC SERVICES. THE REVEGETATION OF LANDS TOTALS 214 ACRES WITH 20 ADDITIONAL ACRES ADDED TO THE ASBURY GREENWAY. IT DOES NOT VIOLATE THE MORATORIUM. AS FOR SCHOOLS, WE HAVE AN EXISTING PROPORTIONATE SHARE AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THAT EXCEPT THAT THEY WILL BE THE ADDITION OF LAND FURTHER TO THE EAST JUST EAST OF THE GREENWAY. WE WILL BE SPREADING THOSE EXISTING RIGHTS SO NO ADDITIONAL SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN WILL BE GENERATED AS A RESULT OF THIS APPLICATION. THE PUBLIC BENEFIT AS A RESULT OF THIS APPLICATION AND APPROVAL OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AGREEMENT IS THAT RELOCATION OF THAT FIRE STATION SITE LUNG FOR THAT VILLAGE CENTER TO BE PULLED TO SANDY RIDGE ROAD WHILE ALLOWING THE VILLAGE CENTER TO SERVICE MAJORITY OF YOUR SANDRIDGE AREAS. THERE IS NOT A LOT OF MARTIAL AREA AND THAT LOCATION. IT WILL ALSO INCLUDE THE CONSTRUCTION OF SOME OF YOUR MOBILITY ROAD SUCH AS RAVINA PARKWAY . THAT NORTH-SOUTH ROADWAY WHICH WAS PARALLEL IN PORTIONS OF THE EAST-WEST ROADWAY WHICH IS THE EAST REST ROAD THAT CONNECTS TO RUSSELL ROAD. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE ADDITIONAL 20 ACRES ELECTED TO THE GREENWAY ALLOWS US TO BE MORE SENSITIVE TO BRADLEY CREEK WETLAND AND FLOODPLAIN CONSTRAINTS AND APPLICATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN. AS MENTIONED, THE TRANSMITTAL HEARINGS WERE HEARD EARLIER THIS YEAR IN APRIL AND THAT WAS TRANSMITTED TO STATE AGENCIES FOR COORDINATED REVIEWS. NO COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED BACK SO THAT WAS GREAT NEWS AND YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD THIS ITEM LAST WEEK AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL UNANIMOUSLY. WITH THAT, I WILL LEAVE IT TO BETH TO GIVE YOU ADDITIONAL UPDATES AND I WILL ALSO BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU. >> WE WILL GO THROUGH THIS REALLY QUICKLY AND NOT BE TOO REDUNDANT. AGAIN, THIS IS A LARGE-SCALE END-USER MOMENT OF 214 ACRES TO SHIFT THE LOCATION OF LAKE ASBURY VILLAGE CENTER MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITY , RURAL FRINGE, AND THE 20 ACRES OF LAKE ASBURY ROADWAY. THIS IS IN PENNY FARMS LAKE ASBURY PLANNING DISTRICT. COMMISSIONER BURKE'S DISTRICT. MISSION DISTRICT 5. THE HISTORY OF THAT COMMISSION HEARINGS THE THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED 7-02 RECOMMEND TRANSMITTAL OF THE LAND-USE AMENDMENT. THAT WAS TRANSMITTED .■ CAME TO THE BOARD FOR YOUR REVIEW ON THE 23RD AND YOU VOTED 4-02 TRANSMIT. OBVIOUSLY, THAT WAS TRANSMITTED. WE DID RECEIVE NO COMMENTS AS TRACY HAS STATED.

THIS IS THE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION . 350 FOOT BUFFER FOR THE LAND-USE AMENDMENT. THIS IS FOR THE ZONING. THE FINDINGS OF THE FLUM AMENDMENT. ROAD SHIFTS THAT LAKE ASBURY MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITY AND LAKE ASBURY RURAL FRINGE CREATES ADDITIONAL LAKE ASBURY GREENWAY. THERE IS NO INCREASE IN RESIDENTIAL DENSITY. YOU SEE THE TABLE BELOW IS A COMPARISON THAT CORRELATES TO THE MAP ON THE SIDE TO VERIFY THAT THERE WAS NO ADDITIONAL DENSITY CREATED. AND AGAIN, THE DEVELOPERS CREATING THE FOUR ACRE SITE FOR THE BUYER STATION. THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE VILLAGE CENTER WOULD ALLOW ACCESS FROM STANDARD ROAD NORTH-SOUTH TWO AND EAST-WEST 1B. OFFERING EASY ACCESS FOR RESIDENTIAL USERS AS WELL AS MITIGATING THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF HAVING A COMMERCIAL AREA RIGHT NECK TO RESIDENTIAL BUFFER. THERE IS NO INCREASE IN DENSITY AND LAKE ASBURY CAC VOTED 8-1 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CASEY ALSO STATED AND THAT WILL ALL BE VERIFIED AND DRC. WE DEFINITELY WILL BE LOOKING AT THE CONNECTIVITY AS WELL AS SIDEWALKS AND LIKABILITY WALK ABILITY ASPECT. NO OBJECTIONS FROM THE STATE AGENCIES THAT APPROVED THIS. WITH THAT, STATE RECOMMENDS THE APPROVAL OF COMP . AND THERE WERE TWO CHANGES TO

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24-0001. ANY QUESTIONS? >> OKAY. ARE THERE ANY

QUESTIONS FOR BETH? >> THIS IS THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING ON BOTH COMP PLAN AS WELL AS THE ZONING CHANGE SO I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON EITHER THE COMP PLAN OR ZONING CHANGE . FOR THAT LAKE ASBURY VILLAGE CENTER CHANGE. SEEING NONE, HEARING THEM, CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRINGING IT BACK TO

THE COMMISSIONER. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO CASEY AND ALL OF YOUR GROUP FOR WORKING ON THIS AND FOR BEING SO QUIET AND HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY FOR THE FILE STATION. OF COURSE WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. I THINK IT WAS VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT AND I AM EXCITED ABOUT COMMERCIAL COMING IN AND MAYBE PRAYING THAT NOT REALLY A LOT OF APARTMENTS. WE NEED MORE COMMERCIAL IN THE AREA REALLY BADLY. SO, I THINK, Y'ALL, I CAN REALLY BADLY AND WITH THAT,

I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> IS THERE A MOTION?

>> I SECOND. HE MET WITH A MOTION AND A SECOND TO PUT ON THE COMP PLAN. 24-000 2. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

>> AYE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> TO HAVE TO DO A SECOND

PUBLIC HEARING OR NO? >> NO.

>> ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS?

>> DO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MOTION INCLUDES THE CORRECTIONS TO THE ORDINANCE THAT WERE MENTIONED BY BETH?

>> I THINK IT IS WHAT SHE MEANT.

>> I MEANT THAT. THAT IS WHAT I MEANT.

>> I INCLUDED THAT IN MY SECOND.

>> OKAY. SO, REZONING CHANGE HAS BEEN AMENDED. ALL THOSE IN

FAVOR, SAY AYE. >> AYE.

[26.  Final Public Hearing to consider adoption of COMP 24-0005 (B. Carson)]

>> ALL NAYS, SAME SIGN. WE MIGHT AS WELL SIT THERE FOR THE NEXT ONE. THE ADOPTION TO CONSIDER THE COMP PLAN OF

24-0005. >> YES. THIS IS THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING. THIS ITEM CAME BACK TO YOU IN APRIL. THIS IS A COUNTY INITIATED TEXT COMMITMENT TO THE TEXT PLAN IN RESPONSE TO HOSPITAL 79 WHICH INVOLVES PROTECTION OF ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES. PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD THIS ON APRIL 2ND VOTED 6 TO 0 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO TRANSMIT.

YOU ALL HEARD THIS ON APRIL 9TH BUT REQUESTED SOME POLICY CHANGES SO WE MADE THOSE CHANGES AND BROUGHT IT BACK TO YOU ON APRIL 23RD. AT WHICH POINT YOU VOTED TRANSMITTAL OF THIS AMENDMENT . LIKE THE LAST ONE, THERE WERE NO COMMENTS ANY OF THE REVIEWING AGENCIES. THEY HAD NO OBJECTIONS OR COMMENTS.

JUST REMIND YOU WHAT THIS ONE WAS, THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE B MAP, WHICH IS REQUIREMENT FOR THE STATE AND THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT REGULATES THIS AND THIS IS HOUSE BILL 39.

IT REQUIRES HOUSEBUILDING AMENDED TO INCLUDE A LIST OF PART OF THAT REQUIRED TO REDUCE REDUCTIONS ESTABLISHED IN THE AMOUNT MAP.

SO, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, BASICALLY WHAT I JUST READ TO YOU BUT I CAN READ IT TO YOU AGAIN. THIS WOULD BE POLICY 1.1.8 IN THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES DEVELOPMENT WHAT IT SAYS IS THE COUNTY SHALL ASSESS THE FEASIBILITY OF PROVIDING THE SANITARY SEWER SERVICES FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT UNDER HIS JURISDICTION OF 50 OR MORE RESIDENTIAL LOTS WHETHER BUILT OR UNBUILT WITH MORE THAN ONE ON-SITE SEWAGE SYSTEM PER ACRE

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AND THAT POLICY READS AS FOLLOWS. THE COUNTY SHALL FINALLY UPDATE AS POSSIBLE TO SCHEDULE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH MAY INCLUDE ANY PUBLICLY FUNDED PARTNERS OF FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN WHICH WE IMPROVE PUBLICLY FUNDED PROGRESS PROJECTS . REQUIRED TO ACHIEVE THAT POLLUTANT BUILD REDUCTIONS PURSUANT TO THE COUNTY.

ESTABLISHED IN THE LOWER ST. JOHNS RIVER BASIN MANAGEMENT ACTION PLAN PURSUANT TO STATUTE 403.0677 . IF THE CURRENT T MDL IS BEING MET, NO PROJECT SHALL BE LISTED. AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME REPRESENTATIVES HEAR FROM JONES EDMUNDS? NOT SEEING ANY. BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE CAN GET THROUGH

THAT. >> ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR BETH THAT SHE CAN'T ANSWER?

>>

>> I DID SPEAK WITH RYAN AND ALL OF MY QUESTIONS WERE

ANSWERED AND I FULLY SUPPORT. >> YOU BROUGHT THIS UP. GOOD

CHANGES. >> YEAH.

>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, IS IT? OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ELEMENT TO THE COMP PLAN.

SEEING NONE/HEARING THEN, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. FOR A COMMENT

OR A MOTION. >> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND APPROVAL TO APPROVE COMP PLAN ADOPTION OF COMP PLAN 24-0005.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE, HEARING ON, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

[27.  Discussion of Appointment to the Clay County Housing Finance Authority]

>> AYE. >> I SEE BARBARA COLEMAN IS SEEKING RE-EMPLOYMENT. I WANT TO COUPLE MET BARBARA. SHE HAS BEEN ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME AND SHE IS DOING WELL FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO I CERTAINLY ENDORSE HER REAPPOINTMENT. THOUGH, WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVE THAT TO

HER. >> I THINK WE DO.

>> WE DO? >> I MOVE APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE BARBARA COLEMAN'S REAL IMPROVEMENT TO THE HOUSING FINANCE AUTHORITY.

[28.  Bid Opening Tabulations (K. Smith)]

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. >> AYE.

>> ALL NAYS, SAME SIGN >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. OPENING FOR CONSTRUCTION ENGINEERING INSPECTION SERVICES, WIDENING OF 220 . I GUESS IT IS A, B, C, D ALL OF THE SAME. SO I WILL OPEN THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING COMPONENT OF THE MEETING TONIGHT. ANYONE WISHING TO ADJUST THE COUNCIL, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. TO COMMENT. SEEING NONE, WE ARE GOING TO

[COMMISSION AUDITOR]

COMMISSION AUDITOR. COMMISSION AUDITOR.

>> GOOD EVENING. I HAVE TWO ITEMS FOR YOU GUYS TONIGHT. THE FIRST ITEM I HAVE IS THE BOARD HAS ASKED ME TO LOOK INTO OUR FRANCHISE HOLLER PROGRAM AND MANAGEMENT WITH SOME SURROUNDING COUNTIES ON OUR APPLICATION PROCESS AND ALSO OUR FEES. FOR THAT PROGRAM. SO, YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, A

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THERE WERE A FEW COUNTIES THAT I SPOKE TO WHO ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE OPEN APPLICATIONS, THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THEIR RENEWALS ARE AT THE SAME TIME FOR ALL OF THEIR FRANCHISE HAULER'S . SO, FOR INSTANCE, IF ALL OF THEIR APPLICATIONS WERE NEW IN APRIL BUT SOMEONE CAME AND APPLIED IN FEBRUARY AND THEY BECAME A HAULER IN FEBRUARY, THEY WOULD HAVE A TWO MONTH CONTRACT AND ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS WOULD BE RENEWED IN APRIL. SO THEN, THEY WOULD ALL BE ON THE SAME CYCLE FOR RENEWALS. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT APPLICATION?

>> SO, FOR THE SECOND PIECE. FOR THE FEES THAT GO ALONG WITH THE FRANCHISE HAULER PROGRAM, IT IS A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO LOOK AT THIS ACROSS THE COUNTIES THAT WE LOOK BACK JUST BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT THAT GOES INTO THE FEES THAT ARE CHARGED. SO, THE FIRST COLUMN, YOU CAN SEE APPLICATION FEE.

SO, WE CHARGE A $250 APPLICATION FEE AT TIME OF APPLICATION. SO THAT IS JUST A ONE-TIME FEE THAT WE CHARGE.

THERE ARE OTHER COUNTIES THAT CHARGE ANNUAL FEES, SO YOU CAN SEE, DUVAL HAS A $15 1500 THOUSAND DOLLAR ANNUAL FEE. WE DO NOT HAVE A TRANSFER FEE FOR THAT. AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE, NASSAU COUNTY HAS ANNUAL FEE. VOLUSIA HAS A FEE EVERY FIVE YEARS. ANOTHER INTERESTING THING THAT I FOUND WAS ON THE APPLICATION FEE ASPECT OF THIS, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF COUNTIES THAT CHARGE PER VEHICLE OR PER TRAILER. WE ALSO DO NOT HAVE THAT TYPE OF FEE IN OUR COUNTY RIGHT NOW. SO, WHEN YOU MOVE OVER TO THE RIGHT /FEE THAT WE CHARGE, THESE PERCENTAGES ARE CHARGED BASED ON OUR GROSS RECEIPTS OF OUR FRANCHISE HAULER'S . SO YOU CAN SEE WE ARE AT 14%. DUVAL IS HIGHER THAN US AT 17%. A GOOD NUMBERS OF THE COUNTIES ARE AT 17%. SO THIS ONE, WE ARE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE HERE. WE ARE ON THE HIGHER AND IF YOU LOOK JUST BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY ONE COUNTY HIGHER THAN US AND MORE COUNTIES THAN NOT ARE LOWER THAN US ON THAT FEE. AND WHEN YOU GO TO THE FAR COLUMN, THIS IS OUR TIPPING FEES. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE CHARGE $40-$70 PER TIME TON. I WOULD SAY WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RANGE OF THE COUNTIES THAT WILL AFFECT . ONE THING I DO WANT TO SAY ABOUT THE TIPPING FEES IS FOR OUR FRANCHISE HAULERS THAT ARE ABLE TO BRING MORE TYPES OF WASTE TO US SO THEY CAN BRING GLASS ONES, INSTRUCTIONS, AND YARD WASTE, I KNOW DUVAL AND I BELIEVE ST. JOHNS COUNTY , THEY ONLY ALLOW FOR CLASS 1 TO BE DUMPED THERE. WE ARE ALSO THE ONLY COUNTY THAT OFFERS DISCOUNTED TIPPING FEES FOR OUR FRANCHISE HAULERS . SO, IT IS $67 BASED ON WHAT KIND OF WASTE THAT THEY ARE BRINGING. SO, I WOULD SAY LOOKING AT ALL OF THIS ACROSS ALL OF THE FEES THAT ARE CHARGED, FOR OUR FRANCHISE HAULERS, I WOULD NOT SAY THAT WE ARE CHARGING ANY MORE THAN OUR COUNTIES. SOME ASPECTS ARE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. SOME ASPECTS WERE LOWER. SOME ARE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE RANGE. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE FOR US HAVING A

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CLOSED APPLICATION PERIOD? >> WHEN I FIRST CAME ON BOARD, WE LIMITED THE NUMBER OF FRANCHISE HAULERS THAT WE HAD.

WE HAD BETWEEN 10 TO 15 FRANCHISE HAULERS. SO, AT THE TIME, WE WERE NOT OPENING APPLICATIONS JUST BECAUSE WE WERE NOT BRINGING ON ANY NEW PEOPLE. WHEN WE OPENED THAT UP AND ALLOWED FOR NEW COMPANIES TO COME ON BOARD AS A FRANCHISE HAULER, I BELIEVE IT WAS OUR THOUGHT PROCESS THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW MANY APPLICATIONS WE WERE GOING TO GET, SO IT WAS TRYING TO NOT HAVE THE FLOODGATES OPEN FOR THE APPLICATIONS. SO, WE LEFT THEM CLOSED. THERE IS ALSO A CONCERN THAT WE HAVE HAD FROM STAFF IS THAT, IF WE HAVE OPEN APPLICATIONS, THEN WE WILL GET THESE ONE OFFS RANDOMLY AND WE WOULD HAVE TO PROCESS THEM WHEREAS WHEN WE HAVE OPEN APPLICATION BY THE BOARD, THEN WE KNOW WE ARE GOING TO GET THOSE. WE CAN HAVE IT OPEN FOR A MONTH OR TWO OR WHATEVER THE TIMEFRAME IS AND WE KNOW THAT THAT IS GOING TO COME AND WE CAN ADJUST FOR THAT IN OUR WORKLOAD.

>> HOW MANY DO WE HAVE RIGHT NOW? DOES ANYBODY KNOW?

>> I BELIEVE IS BETWEEN 25 AND 35. THERE IS A LIST ONLINE OF ALL OF OUR FRANCHISE HAULERS, BUT THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. YET THAT IS ACTUALLY HOW THIS CAME ABOUT. I HAD A CONSTITUENT CALL ME AND HE WAS ANGRY THAT HE LIVES IN CLAY COUNTY AND HE COULD DO BUSINESS IN ST. JOHN'S , DUVAL AND PUTNAM COUNTY, BUT HE COULDN'T DO BUSINESS IN THE COUNTY HE LIVED IN. WHAT HE SAID TO ME IS, THIS IS THE ONLY BUSINESS IN CLAY COUNTY WERE THE BCC LIMITS IF I CAN DO BUSINESS. IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE HE COULDN'T APPLY UNTIL THE NEXT APPLICATION PERIOD OPENED, WHICH IN HIS CASE WAS NINE MONTHS LATER. SO, WHEN I ASK ABOUT IT, MILTON SAID THAT THESE THINGS HAD BEEN PUT INTO PLACE IN BASICALLY 2014 ONE THE WHOLE THING HAD COME ABOUT AND NOTHING HAD BEEN TOUCHED SINCE THEN. EXCEPT FOR ONE WE HAD CHANGED IT, I THINK TWO YEARS AGO WHEN WE SAID WE AREN'T GOING TO LIMIT IT TO THE 15.

AND SO IT DOES KIND OF -- I WON'T SHARE HOW EXTREME THE CONSTITUENT SAID. I MEAN, HE WAS BASICALLY LIKE WHAT ARE YOU? THE NEW YORK MAFIA. YOU ARE CONTROLLING WHETHER I CAN DO BUSINESS OR NOT WITH GARBAGE. I THINK IT IS A BIT EXTREME, BUT IT DID STRIKE ME AS NOT VERY SUPPORTIVE OF --

>> DISCUSSION SPOKE TO CONCERNS OF STAFF AND WHETHER OPENING THE ENROLLMENT PROCESS OR, YES, THE APPLICATIONS PROCESS WOULD IN FACT INUNDATE STAFF THE WAY IT HAS BEEN RECEIVED IN LIGHT OF WHERE WE HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE AND WHAT THE RESULTS WERE.

>> YES. COMMISSIONER COMPERE AND I TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE GET APPLICATIONS, IT IS LOOKED AT BY MILTON AND HIS STAFF, BUT IT IS ALSO LOOKED OVER BY LEGAL AND ALSO MYSELF BECAUSE THEY PROVIDE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. SO WE ARE ALL LOOKING AT THE APPLICATIONS. SO WHEN WE FIRST OPENED IT UP TO HAVE AS MANY BUSINESSES AS WE WANTED BASICALLY TO BE IN THE PROGRAM, WE DID GET A LOT OF APPLICATIONS, AND I THINK THAT FIRST YEAR, WE ADDED I WANT TO SAY 10 OR SO AND THEN EVERY YEAR SINCE, WHEN WE OPENED APPLICATIONS, WE HAVE GOTTEN LESS AND LESS AND LESS. AND SO I REALLY DON'T THINK, IN MY OPINION, WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE 10 OR SO APPLICATIONS EVERY MONTH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT THE BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO BE IN THIS PROGRAM HAVE APPLIED AND ARE IN THE PROGRAM. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESSES THAT WE DECLINE TO BECOME A FRANCHISE HAULER. I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN A HANDFUL SO WE ARE NOT GETTING A LOT OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE APPLYING, YOU KNOW, HOPING THAT WE WILL APPROVE

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>> IT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT AN ISSUE IN THE SIX OTHER COUNTIES SURROUNDING US. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US OPEN IT UP. I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT SMALL BUSINESSES, BUT IT WAS MY CONSTITUENT THAT ASKED THE QUESTION AND I THINK HE GOT APPROVED IN FEBRUARY. I THINK HE HAD ORIGINALLY ASKED IN NOVEMBER OR SOMETHING. I

THINK HE IS APPROVED NOW. >> CHARLIE, WE HAVE 25 TO 35

AUTHORIZED. >> YES, SIR.

>> THERE IS NO ANNUAL FEE. HOW MANY ARE ACTIVE?

>> PROBABLY ABOUT 30. >> 30?

>> PRETTY MUCH. IT IS SPORADIC PERIODIC TIMES AND THERE ARE OTHER TIMES DURING HOLIDAYS OR SIGNIFICANT BUILDING PERIOD WHERE THERE ARE MORE, BUT I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT WE ARE PREPARED TO GO TO A YEAR-ROUND SCHEDULE. THE ONLY THING THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IS THE ORDINANCE SAYS THAT YOU ALL ESTABLISHED WHEN THE PERIOD OF AN APPLICATION ARE SCHEDULED.

SO, WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO I AM ASSUMING AND I'M REFERRING TO COURTNEY IS EITHER CHANGE THE ORDINANCE TO SAY THAT IT IS OPEN ENROLLMENT BASICALLY , OR NOT CHANGE THE AGREEMENT AND SAY, YOU FILLED THIS AND NOW YOU WANT IT OPEN. SO, WE ARE FOLLOWING IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONTRACTOR OF THE ORDINANCE. YOU HAVE DETERMINED THAT IT WOULD BE OPEN MARKET AND WE SET IT UP AS AN OPEN MARKET.

>> I THINK IT DOES MAKE SENSE, THE RENEWAL CONTRACT THING ALL AT THE SAME TIME. I THOUGHT THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

>> WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT ONE. WHAT ARE TAKING PLACE FOR

THE FIRST YEAR I'M SURE. >> THEY AREN'T ALL ON THE SAME SCHEDULE NOW? EVEN THOUGH THE APPLICATION PERIOD IS SHORT?

>> I THINK WE HAVE HAD THE APPLICATION OPEN AT TWO SEPARATE TIMES. I KNOW ONE TIME WE HAD IT OPEN LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, FEBRUARY TIMEFRAME AND THEN, WE HAVE HAD ANOTHER ONE OPEN LATE SUMMER/EARLY FALL. SO, WE DO HAVE TWO DIFFERENT

RENEWAL PERIOD. >> IT DOES MAKE SENSE FOR YOU ALL THEN. I WANT IT TO MAKE SENSE FOR YOU. IT SATISFIES ME TO NOT LIMIT SOMEONE'S BUSINESS POTENTIAL. BASED ON

OUR ORDINANCE. >> AGAIN, THERE ARE A COUPLE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE SPEAKING FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES PIECE THAT ARE READY AND CAPABLE TO DO THAT.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR HEATHER?

>> SO ARE WE VOTING RIGHT NOW WERE WHAT ARE WE DOING?

CONSENSUS? >> YEAH. IS THERE A CONSENSUS I GUESS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CHANGING THE ORDINANCE?

>> I RECOMMEND WE REVIEW THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO THAT AND COMPONENTS.

>> IS THAT THE ONLY PART WE ARE CHANGING THE?

>> PARDON ME? >> IS THAT THE ONLY PART WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE? OPENING THE APPLICATION?

>> THAT WAS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS AT THIS POINT. YOU KNOW. WAITING AT THIS POINT TO HEAR OTHER INPUT . THEY CERTAINLY CAN HANDLE ENVIRONMENT OF SERVICES , CAN HANDLE OPEN ENROLLMENT AND I THINK WE GO WITH THAT . IF MOST OF THEM HAVE ALREADY APPLIED HERE AND ARE INTERESTED IN DOING BUSINESS HERE, THERE ARE PROBABLY NOT A LOT OF WANT TO JUMP IN AND OVERWHELM THE SYSTEM. MY CONCERN WILL BE WORKING TO APPOINT WHERE THEY ALL GET RENEWED AT THE SAME TIME, WHICH THEN AT THAT POINT COULD OVERWHELM THE SYSTEM AS YOU ARE TRYING TO GET THESE THROUGH AND VETTED AND APPROVED . IF WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE IN THE WINTER AND TIMEFRAME, SOME IN THE SUMMER TIMEFRAME, MAYBE WE HAVE TWO TIMES THAT YOU CAN GET AND MIX IT UP AND KEEP THOSE PEOPLE ON BECAUSE THE FIRST YEAR WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR THE PRORATE AND MOVE PEOPLE AND IT WILL BE TOUGH ON THE BUSINESSES TOO. DO NOT GET

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WORKS. >> BUT THAT WOULD BE AN

ORDINANCE CHANGE, RIGHT? >> I WILL GET WITH COURTNEY AND CHARLIE AND WE WILL DISCUSS IT AND BRING IT BACK.

>> I THINK JUST DIRECT STAFF TO REVIEW THE ORDINANCE.

>> EXCUSE ME, CHAIR, WHAT IF YOU LOOKING AT THE OTHER ASPECTS OF THIS IN DOLLARS AND CENTS, IF WE START AT THE MIDDLE OF THE PACK, THE QUESTION IS WHETHER WE WANT TO UPGRADE THAT IN CHARGE OR EVEN CHANGE THE WAY WE CHARGE. WE CHARGE $250 INITIALLY AND WE HAVE TO SOME THAT CHART ON A YEARLY BASIS . AND I'M NOT SURE, CHARLIE, OR AT LEAST I WOULD CONVENE WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHAT WOULD

BE BEST AT THIS POINT. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

COMMISSIONERS AND CHARLIE. MY PERSONAL RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE KEEP THE PRICING WHERE IT IS. WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT PRICES ARE GOING UP AND WE ARE A LITTLE BIT AROUND THE MEDIAN. WE ARE GETTING READY TO IMPLEMENT A NEW CONTRACT IN OCTOBER. WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO KEEP COSTS DOWN BUT THIS I THINK WOULD NOT REALLY IMPACT MOST PEOPLE OTHER THAN BUSINESSES BECAUSE MOST OF THESE HAULERS OR ROLL OFF TRUCK

TYPE PEOPLE. >> THERE YOU GO, MR. CHAIR.

DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH EVERYONE FEELS ON DOING THE YEARLY KIND OF A THING AND CUTTING PEOPLE, AND ON THE YEARLY RENEWAL AND HAVING PEOPLE COME AND ANY TIME DURING THE COURSE OF THE YEAR TO SIGN UP . I PERSONALLY THINK THAT CHARLIE IS RIGHT THAT WE SHOULD BE GOING TOWARDS THE FEEDS AT THIS TIME . IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING FOR EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO DO BUSINESS HERE.

KEEP THOSE AS THEY ARE AND LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.

>> YOU ARE SEEING YOU WANT TO SEE THE ORDINANCE COME BACK?

>> I THINK THEY ARE PREPARED TO REVIEW THE ORDINANCE IN ALL ASPECTS AND BRING IT BACK. OKAY?

>> THANK YOU. THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS TONIGHT WITH YOU GUYS IS MY COMMISSION AUDITOR POLICY THAT I HAVE SPOKE WITH YOU ALL ABOUT ON THIS DOCUMENT JUST OUTLINES THE PURPOSE OF AUTHORITY AND RESPONSIBILITY OF MY POSITION.

JUST SO I SPOKE WITH ALL OF YOU ABOUT IT. I DIDN'T HAVE ANY REVISIONS. THE ONLY ONE LITTLE TINY THING COMMISSIONER COMPERE AND I SPOKE ABOUT TODAY THAT I INCLUDED WAS A SECTION SAYING THAT I FOLLOW PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS , WHICH WITH MY CERTIFICATION, I HAVE TO ANYWAY. SO I JUST ADDED THAT IN THERE AND IT IS JUST A LITTLE BLURB THAT I ADDED AND THAT IS SOMETHING THE REST OF YOU DID NOT SEE BECAUSE I ADDED THAT

TODAY. >> CONTEXT, HEATHER. GIVE THEM

CONTEXT. >> I DON'T EVEN REMEMBE WHAT I TALKED ABOUT. WE TALKED ABOUT SO MUCH ON THIS THAT I DON'T

EVEN REMEMBER WHAT. >> OKAY. I WILL GIVE IT. HAPPY TO. IT IS THAT THE POLICY SETS OUT HER JOB DESCRIPTION IS IN ESSENCE AN EXTENDED EXPLANATION OF WHAT SHE DOES BUT IT DID NOT INCLUDE PROCEDURE, WHICH WAS THE NATURE OF OUR CONVERSATION.

AND SO HEATHER EXPLAINED TO ME THAT SHE LOOKS TO MULTIPLE GUIDES TO GET DIRECTION ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. HOWEVER, THAT IS NOT CODIFIED IN WRITING EVERYWHERE , WHICH IS ALSO TRUE ABOUT THIS POLICY. SO IF HEATHER HAS A WAY OF HANDLING THE WORK, THEN WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK BACK AT THIS COMMISSIONER AUDITOR POLICY AND SET OUT HERE IS WHAT SHE DOES IN HERE IS THE PROCESS BY WHICH SHE DOES IT. AND I THINK THAT THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE GETTING AT IN THE NATURE OF OUR

CONVERSATION. >> THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A POLICY DOCUMENT VERSUS A SEIZURE DOCUMENT.

>> PRECISELY. >> ARE YOU GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO US WITH THOSE CORRECTIONS?

>> I ADDED, UNDER THE AUTHORITY, CURRENTLY WHEN YOU GUYS SAW IT, IT HAD A SENTENCE AND I WILL READ IT. IT SAID, THE COMMISSIONER AUDITOR HAD SHALL PERFORM HIS OR HER WORK IN COMPLIANCE WITH COUNTY'S OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES AS WELL

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AND PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS. >> DO Y'ALL WANT TO SEE IT BEFORE WE PASS IT? I WANT TO SEE IT BEFORE WE PASS IT.

>> OKAY. SURE. >> I DON'T DO WELL VERBALLY

HERE. OKAY. >> ANYTHING ELSE? PERFECT.

[COUNTY ATTORNEY]

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COUNTY ATTORNEY?

>> JUST QUICKLY REMEMBER. JUNE 25TH. THAT IS THE DAY WE WILL BE SELLING THE BONDS. I DON'T WANT YOU TO FORGET. AND THEN, REALLY THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I HAVE IS I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE OUR SUMMER INTERNS THAT WE HAVE. SO, I KNOW THE COUNTY HAS A LOT OF SUMMER INTERNS THIS SUMMER SO WE WILL GET TO THE OTHERS BUT WE HAVE ELLA GIBSON WHO IS A SOPHOMORE AT ALL THE MARIA AND WE HAVE SOPHIA SEAN WHO IS A SENIOR AT MIDDLEBURG HIGH. AND AHOJUSTIN WHO JUST GRADUATED FROM FSU .

>> THANKS. >> ARE THEY GOING TO BE HERE TOMORROW AFTER THIS LONG MEETING?

>>

THE LONG MEETINGS. >>

>> WELCOME ABOARD AND HOPEFULLY YOU WILL LEARN SOMETHING THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE BAK AND TAKE FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.

ASSIGNMENTS AND LIFE. THESE ARE VERY OUT VALUABLE ACTUALLY.

[COUNTY MANAGER]

>> CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONER, JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS HERE.

FIRST OF ALL, I WILL CONTINUE WITH THE INTERNS AND WE HAVE A TOTAL OF NINE. SO SIX ADDITIONAL. RILEY IS WORKING IN COMMUNICATIONS. ANTONIO IS IN MIS ALONG WITH KAYLEE. SHE IS ALSO AT MIS. KAYLEE. YOU WILL SEE A PATTERN HERE. XAVIER IS AT UF. AND DWIGHT. HE IS AND PUBLIC WORKS. HE IS JUST A GREAT KID JUST TALKING TO HIM. HE IS GOING TO GET UP REALLY EARLY TO GET THE PUBLIC WORKS BY 7:30. AND TOURISM. A LAURA.

SHE IS WORKING THERE AND SHE IS AT THE RIDGEVIW AND MIDDLEBURG. SO THIS IS A GREAT PARTNERSHIP AND SOMETHING WE HAVE FOLLOWED SUIT WITH. THE CCO IT A AND THEIR INTERNSHIPS.

I HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH THEM AS THEY ONBOARD IT AND HAD A CHANCE TO SEE THEM IN THEIR PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT SO I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THEM. YOU WILL SEE THESE NEW FACES WALKING AROUND AND HOW GREAT IT IS TO HAVE OUR YOUTH COME TO THE COUNTY , ESTABLISH AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COUNTY IS ABOUT AND ESTABLISH POSSIBLY A FUTURE JOB WITH US HERE TO BE ABSOLUTELY WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO STAFF FOR OUR ALL THE OF LIFE. AND WHAT IS GOING ON. SO GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND SPECIFICALLY ELLIE MOSLEY AND HER JUST WANTE THINK YOU GUYS FOR VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME AND WE DO HAVE PAID INTERNSHIPS AS PART OF IT TOO. SO IT IS NOT JUST VOLUNTEER.

BUT THEY TOOK TIME OUT OF THEIR SUMMER TO COME HERE AND WORK.

SECOND THING IS TALKING ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE, WE RECEIVED A LETTER BOTH THE CHAIRMAN AND I FROM THE CORPORATION. I WILL READ THE FIRST PARAGRAPH. I WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU, YOUR ENTIRE TEAM, AND THE BCC FOR THE SUPERB DOCUMENT. LOOKING BACK ON THE HUNDRED OF STRATEGIC PLANS I REVIEWED OVER THE YEARS, YOUR PLAN IS IN THE TOP FIVE, MAYBE 1%. THIS DOCUMENT IS PRECISE LOBE ORIENTED AND EASY TO UNDERSTAND. SKIPPING THROUGH, MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE ENTIRELY OF THE PLAN TIES BACK TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN CLAY COUNTY, WHICH IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL TO PROMOTE AND PROTECT. CLAY COUNTY IS A VERY SPECIAL PLACE THINGS TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR WORKING SO HARD TO KEEP THE SPECIAL SIDE, GEORGE M. FEEGNA . FINALLY, JUST A REMINDER, WE ARE IN HURRICANE SEASON.

DISASTER PREPAREDNESS SALES TAX HOLIDAY GOES THROUGH THIS FRIDAY , JUNE 14TH. YOU GO WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL ABOUT THAT? NOT ONLY IS IT BATTERIES GENERATORS BUNGEE CORDS AND ALL THAT, BUT ON THE PET EVACUATION SUPPLIES AND THOSE OF US THAT HAVE DOGS, WHICH ONE OF THE INTERNS MENTIONED THEIR DOGS --

>> A LOT OF ANIMALS. >> -- A LOT OF ANIMALS. TELL YOUR PARENTS. GO OUT. $100 OR LESS FOR LESS OF DOG FOOD IS TAX-EXEMPT. THERE ARE LOTS OF DOCUMENT REGION EVACUATION SUPPLIES OUT THERE. THERE IS ABOUT FOUR OTHER TAX HOLIDAYS

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THAT IS FANTASTIC. PENDING ANY QUESTIONS, THAT IS ALL I HAVE

FOR THE BOARD. >> THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN RENNINGER? YEAH. SO, THREE GECKOS AND A TWIRL.

>> FIVE DOGS. >> FIVE DOGS. A BUNCH OF CHICKENS. WE FIGURED ONE OF THEM LIVED IN MY DISTRICT BECAUSE THEY HAD ATE CHICKEN SO IF THEY'RE IN YOUR DISTRICT,

THEY ARE IN VIOLATION. >>

>> THE FACT THAT YOU CAN KEEP GECKOS AROUND. THEY USUALLY RUN

AWAY FROM ME. >> I DON'T LIKE GECKOS BUT I WAS HOPING ANTONIA OR KAYLEE COULD HELP US WITH OUR PHONE SYSTEM. I CONSISTENTLY KEEP GETTING EMAILS AND THINGS THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE LEAVING MESSAGES AND NO ONE CALLED THEM BACK AND I THINK THAT THESE MESSAGES ARE STILL GOING INTO OBLIVION. SO IF DEAN IS LISTENING, WE REALLY NEED TO IN ALL SERIOUSNESS WORK ON THAT WELCOME TO THE INTERNS. I WILL JUST TELL YOU THAT I HAVE WORKED MY ENTIRE PROFESSIONAL CAREER IN PRIVATE POLICY AND IN PUBLIC POLICY. THEY BOTH GO HAND IN HAND. GOOD POLICY IS GOOD POLICY AND IT MATTERS A LOT AND YOU JUST SAW THAT NIGHT. I MADE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE MAD AT A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE HAPPY AND I WILL HEAR ABOUT IT. I HAVE ALREADY BEEN GETTING MESSAGES, BUT AT ANY RATE, ERIC ANDERSON IS HERE FOR THE REGIONAL COUNSEL. ERIC, WE WILL GET YOU A COPY OF THAT LETTER. YOU SHOULD TAKE IT BACK TO THE REGIONAL COUNSEL AS YOU ALL FACILITATE IT. WE CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR IT. COMMISSIONER , CHAIRMAN RENNINGER AND I ATTENDED THEIR MEETING, LAST THURSDAY IT FEELS LIKE ANYWAY BUT OUR MONTHLY MEETING AND IT JUST CONTINUALLY GETS THAT MESSAGE SENT HOME ABOUT HOW MUCH -- OF WHAT ADVANTAGES CLAY COUNTY GETS FROM THE REGIONAL COUNSEL THAT IF WE WERE TO PURCHASE THOSE SERVICES FROM ANOTHER, THEY WOULD COST SO MUCH MORE TO THE TAXPAYERS AND, IN FACT, I THINK THEY HAVE AN EXERCISE WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COMING UP OR HAVE JUST COMPLETED ONE RATHER SOON. SO WE APPRECIATE THAT WORK AND IF COMMISIONER RENNINGER HAS ANY UPDATES BUT THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO BRAG ON IS -- YOU CALL BETH THE PRESIDENT? CEO. I COULD NEVER REMEMBER TITLES AND ALL BUT PRESIDENT WHITEHURST WHO IS PART OF THE REGIONAL COUNSEL AND IS COMMISSIONER IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY CALLED OUT THE AGRICOLA PROJECT AND COMMENDED THE BCC WITH WORKING WITH THE AGRICOLAS TO BRING A REALLY EXTREMELY UNIQUE PROJECT OF THE REGION AND HE WAS SAYING, HE REALLY WAS IMPRESSED WITH THIS.

SO FROM SOMEBODY THAT SEES A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, ANYWAY, I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY GOOD NEWS AND A FEATHER IN THE CAP TO STAFF AND HATS OFF. PLEASE PASS THAT ALONG. THEY WERE HOPING THAT THEY MIGHT SEE SOME OF THAT DEVELOPMENT IN OTHER COUNTIES. SO THAT WAS GOOD AND I THINK THAT IS ALL THAT I HAD.

>> ALL RIGHT. EQUITY. COMMISSIONER COMPERE.

>> I THINK IT WAS FUNNY THAT COMMISSIONER CONDON WAS TALKING ABOUT I.T. BECAUSE I WAS HAVING ISSUES WITH MY PHONE TOO AND HATS OFF TO DEAN AND HIS TEAM FOR GETTING THIS BACK TO ME SO QUICKLY. I DRINK JOKED WITH TERESA OF THEM KEEPING IT AS LONG AS A NEEDED AND OBVIOUSLY THAT IS A JOKE, BUT MY CONSTITUENTS CAN FIND ME. LITERALLY I WAS LEAVING THE GYM THIS MORNING AND ONE OF THEM WAS LIKE HEY COMMISSIONER. I HAVE NEVER MET THEM IN MY LIFE BUT THAT THIS HAPPENS. BUT I LOVE THAT OUR STAFF IS ALWAYS AT THE READY TO ADDRESS CONCERNS. I WAS SHARING WITH SOMEBODY THIS AFTERNOON THAT OUR TEAM RESPONDS SO QUICKLY EVERY TIME I HAVE A QUESTION. I KNOW THAT IS TRUE OF OUR COUNTERPARTS. THIS RAPID RESPONSE AND HATS OFF TO OUR TEAM WITH EMERGENCY SERVICES TODAY DIFFUSING AN ISSUE . IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME AND I AM GRATEFUL TO LIVE IN CLAY BECAUSE WE HAVE GOT FOLKS WHO

[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]

HAVE GOT FOR TONIGHT. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BURKE? I HAD A COUPLE THINGS. I ALSO GOT TO GO SEE THE COMMAND

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I MEAN I WAS JUST LOOKING THROUGH THE TREES. ALL OF THE STUFF HAPPENING OUT THERE IN THE RIVER WHICH WAS VERY INTERESTING IF YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT, BUT I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT. BUT JUST SEEING EVERYBODY WORK TOGETHER, JUST WHAT COMMISSIONER COMPERE JUST SAID. IT MAKES ME SO PROUD AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT I NEVER SAW BEFORE I WAS A COMMISSIONER AND JUST TO SEE EVERYBODY WORKING TOGETHE, I MEAN PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT COUNTIES OR SHERIFF'S OFFICE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, -- I THINK CHIEF MOATS ALSO SAID THAT.

THAT PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE HAVING A GOOD TIME. THEY JUST WANT TO GET AWAY AND FORGET ALL ABOUT ALL OF THEIR WORRIES AND ENJOY WHAT A DAY ON THE RIVER. LAW ENFORCEMENT IS NOT THERE TO GIVE THEM A HARD TIME. EVERYBODY IS HAVING A GOOD TIME. I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY NEED TO THINK OF IT THAT WAY.

AND AGAIN, JUST TO SEE EVERYTHING COME TOGETHER. THE SHERIFF'S DID JUST A GREAT JOB TOO. JUST COORDINATING ALL OF THAT. LET'S SEE. THE OTHER THING. OH. TERESA ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT THE FOSTERING THE KITTIES. MY DAUGHTER, WHO IS --

SHE WANTS TO BE A VET. GOD -- >>

>> SHE ASKS TO ME, SHE SAID, THE SHELTER EMAILED ME AND SAID THEY ARE FULL AND THEY NEED US TO FOSTER A DOG AND I SAID, OKAY. WELL YOU HAVE TO TALK TO YOUR DATA BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE IS YOU AT OUR HOUSE AND SHE DIDN'T TALK TO HER DAD.

SHE FORGOT AND SHE THOUGHT THAT I HAD TALKED TO HER DAD AND ALL OF A SUDDEN FIRST SHE TELLS ME, THIS IS REALLY NEAT. THE SHELTER SAYS, WHY DON'T YOU BRING SOME OF YOUR DOGS TUBER TO SEE WHAT DOGS THEY WOULD GET ALONG WITH. SOME OF THEM BARKED AT EACH OTHER AND ROUTE AND THERE WAS ONE NAMED COOKIE THAT WE NOW HAVE AT OUR HOUSE AND THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY HOME AND IT IS HAVE TO SAY, AS I SAID WE ARE GOING OUT OF TOWN AND NOT BEING ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THIS DOG FOR GOOD BUT THEY SAID IF YOU COULD JUST FOSTER IT FOR A LITTLE BIT AND SEE HOW IT DOES WITH YOUR FAMILY. SO WE ARE TAKING VIDEOS AND PICTURES AND, PLEASE. IT IS A TRAP! I AM PUTTING IT ON FACEBOOK. THIS IS THE BEST DOG BECAUSE SHE LITERALLY IS. SHE IS SO SWEET.

SHE IS A BIG DOG, BUT SOMEONE ON THE OTHER END SAYS, OH, IT IS JUST ONE MORE. THAT DID NOT WORK. SO, ANYWAY. THIS IS A PLUG FOR KATMAI COOKIE. ANYONE NEEDS A GOOD DOG, WE HAVE ONE.

>> FOSTERS FOR DOGS, EVEN IF IT IS JUST A SHORT WHILE. I THINK IT IS REALLY NEAT AND WE HAVE AWESOME STAFF OUT THERE TOO. SO

THAT IS ALL I HAVE. >> THAT IS ENOUGH.

>> YEAH. >> ONE

>> YOU CAN HELP HER OUT BY TAKING COOKIE .

>> >> I HAVE MANY. HE IS AN EIGHT POUND ROOKIE AND HE IS ALL WE CAN HANDLE. ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE. WHERE AM I GOING TO START HERE. FIRST I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH FORMER MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN FROM GREEN COVE SPRINGS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE IS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT AS I THINK YOU ALL KNOW IS A VINEYARD TRANSITION CENTER.

THEY BASICALLY WORK IT OUT IN TERMS OF NUMBERS THAT I GUESS THE PROJECT COST IS GOING TO BE BETWEEN $750-$1 MILLION. THEY HAVE ABOUT $100,000 THAT THEY HAVE RAISED. THEY ARE LOOKING TO GET BIGGER GRANTS. THEY HAVE THE RHINO VALIDATION. THE CONVERSATION HE HAD WITH TROY AND OTHER STAFF LAST YEAR RATHER THAN MONIES , HE ASKED IF THERE WAS ANYTHING ELSE THAT THE COUNTY MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO TO HELP THEM GET THERE BECAUSE IT IS THEIR CONTENTION THAT ACCORDING TO THEIR STATISTICS IN TERMS OFTHE RETURN RATE, BEFORE WE RELEASE EACH YEAR WHICH WE COME BACK TO THE COUNTY ABOUT $140,000 PER YEAR IN TAX SAVINGS, THAT IS $35,000 AN INMATE. ONE OF THE THINGS I TALKED ABOUT RATHER THAN FUNDING WAS PERHAPS TWO BE ABLE TO GET MEGAN AND HER STAFF TO DO SOME SEARCHING FOR SOME GRANTS AND HELP THEM MAYBE APPLY FOR THOSE GRANTS. I CHECKED WITH TROY. TROY SAYS THAT IS ON IT IS VERY POSSIBLE IN TERMS OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN SOCIAL SERVICES GROUP AND SPECIFICALLY THE GRANT TEAM. AND SO, WHAT I GUESS I NEED TO DO IS GET WORD OF APPROVAL THAT WE WOULD USE THEIR TIME BECAUSE

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COOKIES. >> I WILL MAKE A COMMENT. IN THE NORMAL GRANT WRITING DEPARTMENT, THEY SURE FOR IT ALL THE TIME. IT IS HARD TO MAKE A MATCH IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE A MATCH AND EVEN MORE DIFFICULT TO WRITE A GOOD PROPOSAL. EVEN MORE DIFFICULT TO GET THAT PROPOSAL APPROVED. MY CONCERN IS THERE ARE PROBABLY 3000 NONPROFITS.

YOU GOT THE QUIGLEY HOUSE, SALVATION ARMY, AND I GET INVOLVED WITH THIS BECAUSE I GET PHONE CALLS ALL THE TIME ABOUT CAN YOU HELP ME WRITE A GRANT? MY WIFE AND I. AND IT IS VERY SLIPPERY SLOPE. I THINK WE COULD HELP THESE PEOPLE IF THEY WOULD IDENTIFY WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE AND GIVE US THEIR NEEDS AND AS MEGAN RUNS ACROSS FUNDING AGENCIES OR TROY RUNS ACROSS THESE FUNDING AGENCIES, TO TRY TO SEE WHAT IS A MATCH BUT IF WE SAY WE ARE GOING TO -- THE VINEYARD? IS THAT WHAT IT IS? I WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME TELLING MERCY WE ARE NOT GOING TO HELP THEM WRITE GRANTS TOO. OR SALVATION ARMY OR QUIGLEY HOUSE. YOU NAME IT. THOSE ARE MY PET ROCKS. GRANTS.GOV IS OPEN TO ANYONE. THEY CAN LOOK FOR GRANTS THEMSELVES AND IT IS NOT AN EASY TASK. I KNOW FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, IT IS A HARD TASK TO MAKE A MATCH . OKAY, WHO IS GOING TO WRITE THE GRANT? YOU CAN LOOK FOR THE GRANT OR FIND THE GRANT, YOU ARE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIND THE GRANT.

>> AND THEY CAN CONTRACT FOR THAT. THEY CAN CONTRACT FOR A GRANT SEARCH TOO. THAT IS ALL DOABLE. I THINK THIS IS ONE THING WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL OF. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SUPPORTING ONLINE PROFITS AND GIVING MONEY TO GRAND NONPROFITS. YOU CAN RUN OUT REAL QUICK. AND MEGAN IS DOING A GOOD JOB FOR US SO I AM NOT SURE SHE HAS THE TIME AVAILABLE TO SERVICE ONE, TWO, 300 PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW. I AM APPREHENSIVE ABOUT SAYING, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.

>> EVERYBODY AGREES WITH THE CHAIRMAN THAT I WILL MOVE

FORWARD. >> I WOULD SAY IF THEY COULD GIVE US A LIST OF THINGS THAT THEY WANT, THEN AS SHE HAS TIME OR AS SHE COMES ACROSS IT BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT GRANTS.GOV, YOU SEE ALL OF THEM. THEY MAY STUMBLE INTO SOMETHING THAT IS A MATCH. I DON'T KNOW.

>> WHAT WOULD YOU ASK THEM? >> YES. I WAS ASKING FOR CHORE TO BE ABLE TO GO TO MEGAN AND DISCUSS WITH HER WHATEVER PROCESSES. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THEY HAVE IS THEY DON'T HAVE ANY STAFF. IT IS ALL VOLUNTEER. SO FOR JUST RANK ROOKIES TO GO OUT THERE AND TRY TO GO THROUGH GRANT.GOV AND COME UP WITH WHO IS ACTUALLY GOING TO SIT AND DO THAT. THAT IS WHY THEY WERE ASKING WITH THAT KIND OF HELP. WHAT THEY WANT IS MONIES TO BUILD THE TRANSITION CENTER SO FOLKS AT NEW HOPE WILL BE GETTING FEDERAL DOLLARS TO HELP OPERATE IT, BUT ONE, THEY NEED TO BUILD IT FIRST. IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOME OF THE NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAVE HAD. THE PROJECT NEW HOPE IN JACKSONVILLE HAS A GREAT OF 8.6%. SO IF YOU DO THAT EVEN AT 16%, THAT GIVES THEM -- YOUR RELEASED INMATES WHICH WOULD COME BACK TO THE CLAY COUNTY JAIL AT A COST OF $35,000 EACH FOR A TOTAL SAVINGS FOR TAXPAYERS $140,000 OVER THE COURSE OF SIX OR SEVEN YEARS. YOU WOULD BE PAID BACK OF THAT TOTAL OF $700,000 TO $1 MILLION. SO THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR. SOME ASSISTANCE IN THAT REGARD. TROY

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WITH WOULD BE AMENABLE TO . >> WHAT IF WE PUT IT IN OUR NONPROFIT FUNDING POLICY THAT GAPS IS GOING TO BRING BACK TO US I GUESS MAYBE LATER THIS MONTH? WHAT IF WE PUT IT IN AS ONE OF THOSE SERVICES? SO I UNDERSTAND, I THINK THE VINEYARD CENTER IS A GREAT SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY AND I THINK IT IS WELL NEEDED HERE IN CLAY COUNTY. I WOULD LIKE TO THEM. I UNDERSTAND THE CHAIRMAN'S CONCERN. SO, WHAT IF WE HAVE THESE AS PART OF THESE APPLICATION PERIOD WHEN WE OPEN THE APPLICATION PERIOD FOR FUNDING THAT WE ALSO INCLUDE IN THERE THAT THEY CAN, BASICALLY, AS FOR THE COUNTY'S GRANT SERVICES? AND THEN WHAT WE WOULD SEE IS HOW MANY ARE ACTUALLY ASKING? AND THAT COULD BE A WAY THAT WE CAN PROVIDE IN-KIND SERVICES TO SOME OF OUR NONPROFITS THAT WERE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE MONEY TO FUND BECAUSE I COULD ENVISION IT BEING THAT BECAUSE THEN, FILLING OUT AN APPLICATION WOULD HAVE THEM DO IS KIND OF HONE WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR.

SO IT IS NOT JUST A, WIDE SWATH OF ANYTHING MEGAN THINGS POSSIBLY COULD APPLY OR HER TEAM BUT WE ARE LOOKING FOR HELP TO FIND GRANTS FOR FURNITURE -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD BE LOOKING FOR BUT IT JUST OCCURRED TO ME. WE ARE WORKING ON OUR POLICY FOR NONPROFIT FUNDING. WHAT IF WE JUST PUT IT IN THERE THAT'S NOT IT IS FUNDING. IT IS JUST NOT

INVOLUNTARY DOLLARS. >> IT IS A RESOURCE.

>> I THINK THAT COULD CAUSE US SOME BIG PROLEMS. BY PROVIDING THAT SERVICE WHEN WE ARE NOT EVEN BEING THE ONE RECEIVING THE FUNDS. US HAVING TO DO ALL OF THE REPORTING FOR IT. BEING

HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR IT. >> I THINK TO THE CHAIR IF I MAY, ASSISTANT COUNTY MANAGER, I THINK THAT IS WHERE WE NEED TO DEFINE BECAUSE WE HAVE HEARD TWO DIFFERENT THINGS TONIGHT AND WE NEEDED TO FIND WHAT THE ASK IS AND ADJUST ACCORDINGLY.

SEARCHING ON GRANTS.GOV AND AS YOU SAID WHEN MEGAN'S TEAM RUNS ACROSS A GRANT AND FORWARDING IT TO MERCY, FORWARDING IT TO WHOEVER, WE DO THAT TO A CERTAIN DEGREE NOW.

THERE IS NOTHING THAT STOPS US FROM BUILDING A LIST LIKE, HEY, HERE IS WHAT I NEED. IF WE SEE A GRANT THAT FITS THAT, FORWARDING IT TO WHATEVER NONPROFIT. I THINK THT IS ONE BUCKET. WE DO THAT NOW AS WE SEE THINGS AND IF WE'S THINK IT DOESN'T FIT WE WILL SEND IT TO OTHER NONPROFITS. I THINK THERE IS A MIDDLE GROUND WHICH IS YOU NEED SOME HELP WRITING A GRANT APPLICATION, WE WOULD HAVE TO DEFINE WHAT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE IS BECAUSE OF THIS WE ARE USING TAXPAYER DOLLARS. I THINK THAT MAYBE WERE COMMISSIONER CONDON WAS GOING.

MAYBE WE COULD HELP THEM AS A SERVICE INSTEAD OF GIVING THEM 50,000 IN CASH, WE GIVE THEM 10 HOURS OF GRANT WRITING HELP AND THEY STILL SUBMIT THE APPLICATION. THEY STILL DO IT AND THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COMPLIANCE AND THEN THERE IS A THIRD SIDE WHICH WE HAVE DONE FOR MUNICIPALITIES IS OFFER UP A FULL SLIDE I WOULDN'T SUGGEST THIS FOR NONPROFITS BUT FOR KEYSTONE. WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH KEYSTONE SAYING WE WILL RACK RIGHT THERE CONTRACT. WE WILL DO EVERYTHING FOR THEM FOR A FEE BECAUSE THEY ARE PAYING AS PER OUR TO RECRUIT THAT BENEFIT THAT THE COUNTY IS PUTTING OUT THERE BECAUSE MOST OF THE GRANTS YOU HAVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE CALL THAT THEY CAN TAP INTO. THE REASON I SUGGESTED BRINGING IT TO THE BOARD IS WE HAVE A DEFINED GRANTS POLICY NOW THIS IS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO WORK ON? ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT GRANTS POLICY NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY THE BOARD BECAUSE I AM USING STAFF TIME TAKING AWAY FROM THE GRANTS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ASKED US TO GO FOR SO I THINK IT IS THE BOARD DEFINING, NUMBER ONE, PRETTY EASY. NUMBER TWO, I WOULD ASK THAT IF WE DECIDE TO GO NUMBER TWO AND ALLOW FOR THE GRANTS DEPARTMENT TO MAYBE SPEND 10 HOURS WRITING A GRANT THAT WE EACH PUT A CAP ON IT. MAYBE WE ONLY DO FIVE OF THOSE A YEAR UNDER THE NONPROFIT SIDE. MAYBE THAT IS WHERE VINEYARD APPLIES AND IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE IF THAT IS THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD. I WOULD STAY AWAY FROM THE THIRD PART BECAUSE THAT GETS YOU INTO CLAWBACK AND COMPLIANCY. IF THEY DON'T COMPLY, THE COUNTY IS PAYING FOR IT. I WOULD TEND TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT THIRD

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SIDE BUT I THINK THAT HELPS. >> MY VISION WAS THE NUMBER TWO PARK. IT IS NOT MY IDEA WAS IT WAS JUST AN IDEA. JUST A THOUGHT. BECAUSE I AGREE, COMMISIONER RENNINGER, PEOPLE CAN GO AND LOOK FOR THESE BUT WRITING GRANT AND ACTUALLY WRITING THEM INTO THE POINT WHERE YOU CAN GET THEM IS

ACTUALLY REALLY HARD. >> AND IT IS HUNDREDS OF HOURS.

NOT 10 HOURS. >> WELL, I THINK GUIDANCE OF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I DON'T KNOW. WHAT IF WE TRIED IT AND IT DIDN'T WORK AND WE TRIED IT ONE YEAR.

>> I THINK IF IT'S TO THE LEVEL OF GRANT YOU ARE APPLYING FOR TOO. IF YOU ARE APPLYING FOR A $10 MILLION D.O.T. GRANT, WE MAY SPEND THREE OR FOUR MONTHS OF THE STAFF PUTTING IT TOGETHER. IF IT IS ONE OF THE ONE PAGE $10,000 GRANTS THAT WE ALSO GO FOR, SOME OF THOSE ARE 5 TO 10 HOURS OF WORK BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT ONLY ANSWERING ONE OR TWO PAGES.

>> A COMPETITIVE GRANT , YOU ARE NOT TALKING 10 HOURS. YOU ARE TALKING 50 TO 100 HOURS. THAT IS 100 HOURS THAT THAT PERSON IS WORKING ON COUNTY BUSINESS SO, WE STRUGGLED WITH GRANTS FOUR YEARS AGO TO THE POINT WHERE WE WERE GIVING UP $1 MILLION A YEAR BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH TIME. WE WANT KNOWLEDGEABLE ENOUGH TO APPLY FOR THEM. AND I THINK WE HAVE SOLVED THAT PROBLEM. I FEAR OVERPROMISING AND UNDER DELIVERING. THAT IS WHAT I FEAR BECAUSE WE DON'THAVE A BIG

GRANT FUND. QUITE HONESTLY. >> IF WE FOUND THAT WAS A REAL NEED FOR OUR NONPROFITS, WE FOUND OUT LAST WEEK WE ONLY GIVE A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO NONPROFITS THAT IS NOT REQUIRED BY STATUTE, SO WHAT IF WE FOUND THAT A REAL NEED, -- MAYBE WE COULD FIND THAT IT WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO OUR NONPROFITS IN THIS CAPACITY AND END UP DECIDING THAT IS MORE COST-EFFECTIVE TO ADD A STAFF MEMBER TO WORK ON THOSE THINGS, MAYBE THAT WOULD PROVIDE MORE SERVICES OF THE COUNTY. I AM JUST SAYING MAYBE. I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF LOOK AT IT. I AM WITH COMMISSIONER CELLA.

>> WE TALK ABOUT GRANTS UNDER THE SENSE THAT THOSE SERVICES WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO NONPROFITS IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE THAT WOULD LESSEN THE NEED FOR US TO ACTUALLY GIVE HARDENED DOLLARS TO THOSE GROUPS. AND SO, THAT IS WHERE THAT THOUGHT PROCESS CAME FROM. MAYBE INSTEAD OF PULLING OUT ALL $300,000 THAT WE GIVE TO NONPROFITS, MAYBE WE TAKE SOME, WE BUFF UP THE GRANT DEPARTMENT AND HAVE SOMEBODY THERE TAKE THOSE DOLLARS AND LOOK AT THOSE REQUESTS PRETTY RIGIDLY. I MEAN, IN THIS CASE, THEY MAKE THE CASE THAT IT IS GOING TO SAY TAXPAYERS DOLLARS. WE ALL STAND HERE AND SAY THAT WE WANT TO DO THAT. WE ALSO SAY THAT WE WANT TO SPEND $100 MILLION TO BUILD A NEW JAIL. WELL, HERE IS A WAY THAT WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM GETTING BACK TO JAIL. AND THERE COULD BE OTHER AS WERE THE GROUPS OUT THERE BUT SOME WILL SERVER NEEDS AND SOME WILL NOT. THAT IS JUST ANOTHER THOUGHT.

>> WHAT SPOKE TO ME WAS THAT THEY ACTUALLY MADE A CASE THAT IS GOING TO SAVE TAXPAYERS MONEY. IF YOU ARE GOING TO PICK CERTAIN ONES, MAYBE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD MAKE IT TO SAY OKAY. HOW IS THAT GOING TO HELP THE TAXPAYERS? HOW IS THAT GOING TO HELP THE COUNTY MAKE THEIR CASE. I THINK IT IS

GREAT. >> GOES BACK TO WHAT THE COMMISSIONER SUGGESTED THAT WE HAVE THEM APPLY FOR THAT OR FILL OUT AN APPLICATION'S JUST IN THE SENSE THAT , YOU KNOW, HERE ARE THE THINGS OF THESE FOLKS ARE LISTENING FOR AND AS WE GO THROUGH LIFE, IF WE SEE THEM, GREAT. IF NOT, THAT IS

FINE TOO. >> IF IT'S IS THE BOARD IF I MAY OFFER A SUGGESTION. THE POLLS BRINGING BACK THE NONPROFIT IN TWO WEEKS. IF WE CAN HAVE THAT TWO WEEKS , I WILL WORK WITH MEGAN AND GABBY TO COME UP WITH A COUPLE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS OF HOW THIS COULD LAY OUT SOME DIFFERENT COSTING OPTIONS OF, HEY, IF WE DID IT AS A SMALL THING, IT IS GOING TO TAKE THIS MANY HOURS. IF WE DO IT TO A FULL-SCALE EMPLOYEE, THIS IS ABOUT WHAT IT IS GOING TO CALL COST TO BRING THOSE OPTIONS BACK IF GABS BRINGS BACK THE NONPROFIT.

>> QUITE HONESTLY, ARE WE OPERATING AT A POINT EVEN NOW THAT BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO PUT ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS INTO THE GRANT THAT WE PUT A GRANT WRITER ON , THEY MORE THAN PAID

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FOR THEMSELVES. >> I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER. MY BOSS WILL KNOW THE NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF HIS HEAD BECAUSE HE FELT IT. WHAT IS OUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT IN THE GRANTS RIGHT

NOW? >>

>> THERE IS YOUR ANSWER. IT IS ONE OF THE FEW DEPARTMENTS THAT

MAKES YOU MONEY. >> FUNDAMENTALLY, YOU CAN SEE IT VERY CLEARLY WITHOUT HAVING TO WORK TOO HARD.

>> YOU KNOW, I WILL PLAY DEVILS ADVOCATE. IF WE CAN DO 66-1, THEY CAN DO 50-1. IF THEY HIRE A WRITER AND FOCUS ON THEIR GRANTS. ANYWAY. I AM FOR WHATEVER WE DO. BUT IT IS NOT AS SIMPLE AS LOOKING FOR GRANT WRITING GRANT GETTING A GRANT, MANAGING A GRANT. IT IS VERY, VERY HARD.

>> BUT YOU HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE. YOU HAVE TO START

SOMEWHERE THOUGH. >>

>> TO MAKE SURE I GOT CLEAR DIRECTION . THE CONSENSUS IS YOU WANT ME TO BRING BACK SOMETHING?

>> YES. WHEN WE BRING BACK THE NONPROFIT, WE WILL BRING BACK PROPOSALS WHETHER THEY MERGE TOGETHER OR STAY SEPARATE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. >>

SPEAKERS ] >>

>> IN MY EYES, THAT WASN'T CONTROVERSIAL. JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE GARY NEWMAN. MOST OF US ALL KNOW GARY AS A STRONG VOICE FOR AND AN ADVOCATE FOR VETERANS AND GARY HAS JUST BEEN ELECTED AS THE NEW PRESIDENT OF THE VIETNAM VETERANS OF AMERICA FLORIDA STATE COUNCIL. THAT IS QUITE AN ACHIEVEMENT BECAUSE THE FLORIDA STATE COUNCIL, THE VBA IS THE SECOND LARGEST IN THE U.S. WITH NEARLY 6000 MEMBERS SO GARY HAS WORKED HIS WAY UP IN THE ORGANIZATION TAKES OVER AN HOUR FRIEND, DAVID , WHO WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE BURNS TURNER OF THE VVA WAS ELECTED AS A SECRETARY. SO MODULATIONS ON HIS APPOINTMENT ON THE BOARD OF THAT RECEIPT IS ORGANIZATION AND ALSO WISH HIM WELL. BOTH HE AND HIS WIFE , MARIANNE , HAVE BEEN UNDER THE WEATHER. SHE STILL REMAINED HOSPITALIZED. HE IS HOME RECUPERATING AND WE SEND OUT OUR BEST AND WANT TO THINK RICH KERRY IN OUR CREW FOR REACHING OUT TO THEM FOR MAKING SURE THERE WASN'T ANYTHING THAT WE COULD DO TO HELP THEM IN WHATEVER CASE. SO HOPEFULLY, THEY WILL GET UP AND GET AROUND AND GARY WILL BE READY TO GO AGAIN IN MARCH AT THE VIETNAM VETERANS MEMORIAL. THAT IS IT. MR. CHAIR.

>> THANK YOU. I WANT TO PILE ON MR. EGAN'S AT A BOY IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. HE IS NOT PRONE TO COMPLIMENTS AS SUCH THAT TELLS ME A LOT. MR. ANDERSON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ENDURING A LONG MEETING AGAIN. AND AMPLIFY WHAT COMMISSIONER CONDON SAID, THE AGRICOLE OF PROJECT CAME UP NOT JUST FROM THE CEO AND PRESIDENT OF THE REGIONAL COUNCIL BUT SOME OF THE MEMBERS ACTUALLY WERE ENVIOUS OF CLAY COUNTY AND THEY WISHED THEY COULD HAVE A PROJECT AS SUCH. SO MY HATS OFF TO THE AGRICOLA FAMILY AND WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO IN CLAY COUNTY. JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THEY ARE MOVING HEADQUARTERS TO THE JESSE BALL BUILDING DOWNTOWN SO THAT WILL TAKE PLACE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO. SO THAT WILL BE A GOOD

CHANGE AS WELL. >> LASTLY, A LOT OF MOVING PARTS IN THE COUNTY AND I TEND TO THE GRADUATION THIS MORNING 95 STUDENTS GRADUATED , GOT THEIR HIGH SCHOOL GED AND HOPEFULLY ON THE RIGHT PATH IN LIFE AND JUST AS AN ASIDE, I THOUGHT IT WAS ONLY ONCE A YEAR BUT THEY HOLD TWO CLASSES A YEAR. I WOULD EXPECT ANOTHER HUNDRED OR SO GRADUATES -- GRADUATES LATER ON THIS YEAR. OTHER THAN THAT, I WANT TO COMPLEMENT THE STAFF ONCE AGAIN. I THINK WE ARE FIRING ON ALL CYLINDERS WILL WHATEVER IT IS OR MAYBE NO CYLINDERS WORTH OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES -- I SENT OUT A VIDEO OF A COUPLE OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES THAT HAD A MISHAP, ANYWAY. MY COMPLIMENTS TO THE STAFF FOR HANDLING EMERGENCY THIS MORNING. I

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>> I WAS JUST SAYING ABOUT THE INJURED EMPLOYEE FROM THIS

MORNING. >> THAT DISTURBED ME.

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