[CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:09] WITHOUT, I WILL CALL THE CLAY COUNTY BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING FOR MAY 23 , 2024, TO ORDER. THE FIRST ITEM , WE HAVE [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] A QUORUM FOR THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING WHICH WAS THE BRAVE 22, 2024. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND PREDATOR, MOTION AND A SECOND FOR MINUTES. ALL APPROVED SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSE? THAT PASSES 3-0 NOT OPEN TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT TYPE IT ANYBODY CAN COME UP AND TALK ABOUT ANYTHING THEY WANT. GEORGIA FOOTBALL, FLORIDA FOR ALL. [1.  Public Hearing to consider Application BOA 24-0001; Variance to Section 3-13(f)(8) of the County Land Development Code.] OKAY. THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS FOR BOA 24-0001. I WILL TURN IT OVER. >> THIS IS THE APPLICANT IS MANDY RUFFINO AND THE AGENT IS -- THE PARCEL IS LOCATED AT 4925 WINDMILL COURT. AND THIS IS A REQUEST A VARIANCE DISSECTION 3-15 F 8 TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM FOR THE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE FROM 750 SQUARE FEET TO 720 SQUARE FEET. HARRIS AN AREA SHOWING THE OUTLINE OF THE PARCEL. IT IS NOT THE END OF -- >> IT IS HOT APPEAR -- NOT APPEAR. >> IT IS NOT? IS OVER THERE AND OVER THERE BUT IT IS JUST NOT -- AN THE PARCEL IS AT THE END OF WINDMILL COURT. TO THE NORTH OF THE PARCEL IS STATE FOREST. IT IS IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH. THE PARCEL IS LOCATED IN THE AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. AND THE USUAL ZONED RESIDENTIAL. WITH THE GOOD, THE ZONING DISTRICT REQUIRES THE PRINCIPAL RESIDENTIAL DWELLING TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF 750 SQUARE FEET OF LIVING AREA. THE APPLICANT WISHES TO CONSTRUCT A PRINCIPAL RESIDENTIAL UNIT TELLING CONSISTING OF TWO EIGHT BY 45 FOOT SHIPPING CONTAINERS. SHIPPING CONTAINERS IS A VALID BUILDABLE MATERIAL. IN THE BUILDING CODE FOR RESIDENTIAL 12. TOGETHER, THE TWO CONTAINERS OF RESULT IN OUR RESIDENTIAL DWELLING OF 750 SQUARE FEET. THE REQUEST FOR THE VARIANCE. JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND . SHIPPING CONTAINERS -- CONTAINERS ONLY COME IN STANDARD PREDETERMINED SIZES. THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THE ONLY SHIPPING CONTAINERS AVAILABLE WERE THE 45 FOOT LENGTH ONES. THERE ARE SIX CRITERIA TO JUDGE A VARIANCE. I WILL TOUCH ON THEM BRIEFLY. AGAIN, AS INDICATED , THE APPLICANT'S DESIRES TO UTILIZE TWO 45 FOOT LONG SHIPPING CONTAINERS TO DEVELOP A RESIDENTIAL UNIT. AND THE 45 FOOT CONTAINERS WERE THE ONES THAT WERE AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE. AGAIN, THESE COME IN PREDETERMINED SIZES. SO IT IS NOT REALLY THE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES . SORT OF A RESULT OF THE APPLICANT BECAUSE THAT IS THE CHOICE OF UTILIZING THE SHIPPING CONTAINERS. BUT BECAUSE OF THE SHIPPING CONTAINER LIMITED SIZE, THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE APPLICANT'S ACTIONS. THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WILL ALLOW , PROVIDE A [00:05:01] PRIVILEGE DENIED BY OTHER PROPERTIES BECAUSE IT WILL RESULT IN A REDUCTION IN THE MINIMUM LIVING REQUIRED AREA OF THE RESIDENTIAL DWELLING . FOR RESIDENTIAL DWELLING IN THE ARIZONA DISTRICT. THE LITERAL INTERPRETATION OF THE CODE WOULD NOT DEPRIVE THE APPLICANT OF RIGHTS COMMONLY ENJOYED BY OTHERS, PROPERTY FROM THE ZONING DISTRICT. BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS FOR CONSTRUCTION, BUT IT WOULD PREVENT THE UTILIZATION OF THE SHIPPING CONTAINERS FOR THIS RESIDENTIAL -- THE REQUESTED VARIANCE IS THE MINIMUM. THE VARIANCE NEEDED TO ALLOW FOR THE UTILIZATION OF THE SHIPPING CONTAINERS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE RESIDENTIAL DWELLING. THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WILL ALLOW FOR A REDUCTION OF LIVABLE SPACE BY 30 SQUARE FEET. THE VARIANCE, IF GRANTED, WILL BE IN HARMONY WITH THE GENERAL INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE, STAFF DOES NOT BELIEVE WILL BE INTEREST OR DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC WELFARE. THIS IS AN AREA OF THE COUNTY THAT IS -- BEING AT THE END OF THE ROAD. THERE IS VERY LITTLE NEIGHBORS. A LOT OF BUBBLE HOMES OUT IN THIS AREA OF THE COUNTY. SO IN SUMMARY, STAFF FINDS THAT THE REQUESTED MINIMUM REQUIRED LIVING AREA OF 720 SQUARE FEET IN THE AIR ZONING DISTRICT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. IN MEETING THE VARIANCE, IT IS BASICALLY A CHOICE OF THE APPLICANT TO UTILIZE THE SHIPPING CONTAINERS. SO STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE REQUESTED VARIANCE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THE STAFF AT THIS POINT? >> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE ARIEL? NO MIKE, ASSUMING IT IS UP, THE PICTURE TO THE SOUTH . I SEE THERE IS ANOTHER DIRT ROAD KIND OF THING. ARE THOSE MOBILE HOMES THERE? >> I BELIEVE THE MAJORITY ARE. THERE MAY BE ONE OR TWO -- YEAH. >> IS THAT ZONED THE SAME AS THIS? AR? >> YES, YES. THE AR ALLOWS MOBILE OR MANUFACTURED HOMES AS WELL AS CONVENTIONALLY BUILT. >> 750 SQUARE FEET? >> YEAH. >> OKAY. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MIKE ? OKAY. WOULD MR. RANDY USINA -- >> I THINK MR. FLETCHER OR -- >> YEAH, I SAW RANDY USINA AND JON MAYER WAS HIS REP. IF EITHER OR BOTH OR WHATEVER IS HERE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP? LAUGHTER ] IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE >> JONATHAN MAYER. WE ARE DESIGNER LIFESTYLES . >> YOU SWEAR EVERYTHING ABOUT TO SAY IS THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? OKAY. ARE THESE THINGS GOING TO BE A SIDE-BY-SIDE? TELL YOU -- TELL US A LITTLE ABOUT HOW YOU WILL CONSTRUCT THESE TRAITS MAKE THESE WILL BE SIDE-BY-SIDE WELDED TOGETHER, INSIGHT IS FRAMED OUT HERE SO THE OVERALL FINISH OF IT WILL LOOK JUST LIKE A HOUSE. >> DOES IT LOOK LIKE A DOUBLE WIDE? >> MOBILE HOME? >> ANYWAY, YES. IT IS CORRUGATED . >> I KNOW THE OUTSIDE IS CORRUGATED. IS THERE A PITCHED ROOF ON IT. >> AND WITH THE PITCH ON TOP. >> OKAY. I HAVE NEVER SEEN ONE OF THESE USED AS A HOUSE. WHAT IS THE REASONING FOR USE OF THE CONTAINERS OF THE HOUSE? >> OUR CUSTOMERS , YOU KNOW, WITH A CERTAIN BUDGET HE HAS TO TRY TO STAY IN. HE HAS ALREADY PURCHASED THESE. YOU KNOW, SO THE COST OF HOLDING HIM THAT AND TRADITIONAL WOULD BE MORE. SO WE ARE ABLE TO SAVE HIM MONEY BY PRODUCING THIS AS WELL. >> I'M JUST CURIOUS. HOW IS THE COST COMPARED TO THE 60 BY 43? PURCHASING A DOUBLE WIDE THAT WITHOUT SIZE AND HAD IT BROUGHT IN AND SET? >> HE IS ALSO TWO OF, HE IS OF STRUCTURE STRENGTH. YOU KNOW, [00:10:05] THAT IS ANOTHER THING HE IS GOING FORWARD. WHEN THIS THING IS BOLTED INTO FOOTERS AND PIERS AND WELDED TOGETHER, IT IS GOING TO BE A LOT HARDER FOR A WINDSTORM OR SOMETHING TO TAKE IT DOWN. >> A LOT OF THESE, HAVE YOU DONE SEVERAL OF THESE? >> NO, THIS IS OUR FIRST ONE. BUT WE GET HIT WITH THIS PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE TIMES PER MONTH NOW. IT HAS BECOME VERY POPULAR. >> >> IT IS COMING, I GUESS. >> FOR APARTMENTS, FOR HOUSES , IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A LOT FULLER. FOR AN APARTMENT, BACK IN TEL AVIV -- IT BECAME VERY AWKWARD UNTIL YOU PUT A BATHROOM IN AND YOU HAVE TO GET PAST THAT. THE POINT WHERE THE ADJUSTMENT BOARD -- >> WORK THOSE JUST SIMILAR? LIKE THE SINGULAR ONES? THEY WERE NOT THE COMBINED ONES. IS THAT CORRECT? >> YOU HAVE TO GET EGRESS OPENINGS? WINDOWS CUT IN? >> YEP. WE HAVE IT ALL. WHEN THESE THINGS ARE WELDED TOGETHER, THEY ARE BULLETPROOF. >> MIKE, WE DO NOT HAVE A SITE PLAN. HE IS NOT ASKING FOR SETBACK ON THE ENCROACHMENT. IT IS JUST THE FACT THAT HE HAS SHORT -- >> IT IS STRICTLY TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM REQUIRED VERBAL LIVABLE AREA. FORGET THE BILLS OF 30 SQUARE FOOT PORTS ON THE FRONT? >> AND ENCLOSED IT . >> IT IS ENCLOSED? >> BUILT AROUND IT, BUT THAT IS NOT CONSIDERED LIVABLE SPACE. >> MIKE, HAS ANYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASKED QUESTIONS? COMPLAINT? >> NO, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS. >> I WOULD ASSUME IT IS BASICALLY A RURAL AREA? >> YEP . IT IS VERY RURAL OUT THERE. >> VERY RURAL. >> HE IS RIGHT HERE. >> IF I HAD A LAPTOP, I COULD SEE THIS MYSELF. >> OH, NOTHING THAT WAY. >> OKAY. YEAH, HE IS AT THE END. THE END OF THE ROAD. >> YEAH. OKAY. >> SO I HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL QUESTION BUT TO DO BUILDING AND ZONING ELSEWHERE. OVER IN BRADFORD COUNTY. THEY STARTED THINK QUITE A FEW OF THESE COME IN AS WELL. IT IS THE LARGEST? I DON'T SAYS IT IS THE LARGEST POSSIBLE SIZE YOU COULD FIND. AS OF THE LARGEST POSSIBLE YOU COULD FIND IN FLORIDA? >> NO, AT THE TIME HE PURCHASED, IT WAS WHAT WAS AVAILABLE. >> OKAY. >> NO, THERE ARE LARGER ONES. >> I WILL INTERJECTED I KNOW WHERE THE 43 FOOT COMES FROM. THESE THINGS ARE TAKING OFF OF A SHIPPER TRAIN AND PUT UP ON A FLATBED. THAT IS WHERE THE 43 FOOT COMES IN. IF THEY ARE JUST ON SHIPS OR TRAINS, THEY CAN GO LONGER. BUT THE TRAILER PORTION CAN ONLY BE SO LONG. >> ANALYTE YOU WILL SEE F-350S AND TRUCKS PULLING THEM TOO. >> I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU OVER IN BRADFORD, WE STARTED GETTING A LOT OF THOSE COMING IN AND NOBODY WAS EXPECTING THAT. HAVE Y'ALL HAD A PREVIOUS REQUEST ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS? >> I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY. I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST ONE. AGAIN, BUILDING MAY HAVE HAD A FEW , BUT VERY FEW. >> I KNOW PEOPLE USE THEM FOR OUTBUILDINGS. >> YES. >> -- WITH OUR HOUSE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, SIR. I AM JUST FOLLOWING? YOU ARE THE DRIVER? HE CAN DRINK? OKAY. ANYBODY GOT QUESTIONS? MIKE OR ANYONE ELSE? I WILL OPEN IT TO THE PUBLIC FOR ANYBODY HERE THAT WANTS TO DISCUSS BOA 24-0001. THING NOBODY, I WILL CLOSE IT AND [00:15:06] COME BACK TO US. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? EMOTION? >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE BOA 24-0001. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE AYE. [2.  Public Hearing to consider BOA 24-0003; Variance to Section 3-15(g)(4) of the County Land Development Code.] >> AYE. >> OPPOSED? IT PASSES 3-0. >> GOOD LUCK TOM YOU GUYS. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS BOA 24-0003. THERE IS NO TWO? UP. >> THIS MONTH WE HAVE ONE, THREE, AND SIX BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REST OF THEM. AHEAD, MR. STAFF. >> THE APPLICANT IS THOMAS ROGERS CALLAHAN. THE PARCELS LOCATED AT 6600 SPIRIT LANE. A REQUESTED VARIANCE TO SECTION 3-15 TO REDUCE THE SIDE OF SETBACK FROM 10 TO 7 FEET IN THE STATE ZONING DISTRICT. HERE IS AN AERIAL OF THE PARCEL. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE LOCATION OF THE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE, THE REQUESTED VARIANCE WOULD BE ON THE SOUTH TOWARD THE BOTTOM OF THIS PROPERTY OF THE PROPERTY LINE. THE PARCEL IS LOCATED BETWEEN STATE ROAD 16 AND KINSLEY LAKE. I SEE THAT ON THE ZONING DISTRICT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE RESIDENTIAL. THE PARCEL AS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION THAT REPORTED BACK IN 1949. ACCORDING TO INFORMATION FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISAL OFFICE, THE RESIDENTIAL UNIT WAS CONSTRUCTED ON 1968. THAT WAS PRIOR TO ZONING IN THE COUNTY. THE APPLICANT WISHES TO CONSTRUCT AN ENTRY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE EXISTING HOUSE. BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION OF THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL UNIT , THE NEW COVERED ENTRANCE WILL BE REQUIRED . IT WILL RESULT IN AN ENCROACHMENT INTO THE 10 FOOT SIDE TOOK -- SETBACK BY THREE FEET. THE COUNTY IS IN RECEIPT OF AN EMAIL FROM A NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH. INDICATING THEY HAD NO ISSUES TO REDUCTION OF SITE VARIANCE. AGAIN, TOUCHING ON THE VARIOUS CRITERIA , THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 10 FEET FROM THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE. AS I INDICATED, THE APPRAISERS , THE INFORMATION INDICATES THE STRUCTURE WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT IN 1968 AT THE PRESENT LOCATION. THE LOCATION OF THE EXISTING DWELLING IN RELATION TO THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE IS NOT A RESULT OF ANY ACTION BY THE APPLICANT. THAT IS THE WAY IT WAS IN 1968. THERE WAS NOT ANY SETBACK REQUIREMENTS REQUIRING FURTHER DISTANCE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WILL PROVIDE THE APPLICANT THE PRIVILEGE DENIED BY OTHERS IN THE ZONING DISTRICT BY REDUCING THE SIDE YARD SETBACK. ALTHOUGH THE LITERAL INTERPRETATION OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD NOT DEPRIVE THE APPLICANT BY -- ENJOINED BY OTHERS IN THE AR TWO ZONING DISTRICT. IT WOULD. HOWEVER, THE EXISTING PRIMARY RESIDENCE WAS IN PLACE IN THE PRESENT LOCATION PRIOR TO THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS IN THE COUNTY. THE LITTLE INTERPRETATION OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR THE COVERED PORCH ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE RESIDENCE. THE REQUESTED VARIANCE REDUCTION TO SEVEN FEET IS THE MINIMUM REQUIRED . GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE, ALLOWING FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ENTRANCE. AGAIN, AS I INDICATED, THE EMAIL WAS RECEIVED BY STAFF FROM A NEIGHBOR ON THE SILICIDE AND THE INDICATED THEY HAD NO ISSUES WITH THE ENCROACHMENT. [00:20:03] THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE , STAFF DOES NOT BELIEVE IT WILL BE INTEREST OR OTHERWISE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH. IN SUMMARY, THE STAFF FINDS THE REQUESTED VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE SIDE SETBACK IN THE AR TWO ZONING DISTRICT WITH NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND OF ELLE MCLOGAN WEBER, VISITING STRUCTURE HAS BEEN IN THE PRESENT LOCATION SINCE 1968. AND THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WOULD BE IN HARMONY WITH THE GENERAL INTENT OF THE CODE AFRICA'S APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST REDUCE THE SIDE SETBACK FROM 10 FEET TO SEVEN FEET FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSTRUCTION OF A GABLED ENTRANCE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PRIMARY DWELLING. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> I ASSUME THAT THE PEOPLE TO THE SOUTH WHO DID NOT HAVE A FICTION, FROM THE AERIAL, I CANNOT SEE A HOUSE THAT THEY MUST NOT HAVE A HOUSE VERY CLOSE TO THAT PROPERTY LINE? >> I AM NOT REALLY SURE. >> IT IS ONLY SEVEN FEET OFF THEIR PROPERTY. >> YEAH, YEAH. >> I HAVE NO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. >> OKAY. MR. AND MRS. CALLAHAN, IF YOU COULD COME FORWARD, PLEASE? I AM GOING TO SWEAR YOU AND. YOU SWEAR EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? >> I DO. >> VERY GOOD TO TELL US WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO. >> WELL, TO ANSWER HIS QUESTION, THE NEIGHBORS , THEY LIVE IN GAINESVILLE. THE FATHER NEEDED HIM THE HOME ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. TWO DOCTORS IN GAINESVILLE. THERE'S A HOUSE THERE BUT YOU CANNOT REALLY SEE IT. THE OBJECTIVE IS TO TEAR IT DOWN. THERE IS A HUGE, THAT IS 13. ONE OAK TREE RIGHT THERE. BEYOND THAT, APPARENTLY, YELLED PAST THE ABILITY FOR THEM TO TURN ACROSS INTO A CABIN. AND THEY ARE PURSUING THAT AND ARE GOING TO START BUILDING ASAP. OUR HOUSE , THIS IS OUR FOREVER HOME. WE'VE BEEN HERE SEVEN YEARS, GREW UP ON THE LAKE SINCE 1969. AND WE HAVE ZERO PLANS OF LEAVING. AND THE HOUSE -- IT IS JUST NOT ACCOMMODATING THE STORAGE SPACE . WE WANT TO DO A LOT OF RENOVATIONS TO THE HOME ALL THE WAY AROUND IT. THIS ENTRYWAY JUST, SO WE ARE , WE CALL THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE FACING THE LAKE THE FRONT DOOR. I'M SORRY. THE SIDE DOOR IS SORT OF OUR FRONT DOOR. SO WE ARE GOING TO REMOVE THE DOUBLE DOORS THAT LEAD OUT TO THE LAKE. WE WILL REMOVE THOSE, BUMP IT OUT EIGHT FEET. YOU KNOW, NOT CHANGING THE FOOTPRINT AT ALL. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE IT AIR-CONDITIONED. YEAH. HI CONTROL. SO WE ARE MOVING THE FRONT DOOR, JUST DRESSING IT UP WITH THE GABLE ROOF FOR AESTHETICS. SO WHAT IS THERE NOW IS A STUPID. APPARENTLY, IT IS NOT REALLY CONSIDERED , YOU KNOW, IT IS NOT PART OF THE FOOTPRINT . IT DOES HAVE A LITTLE COVER OVER IT, BUT IT IS NOT SUPPORTED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT IS NOT VERY ATTRACTIVE. WE WANTED TO COME UP WITH A GABLE AND THEN REDO THE STEPS. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE ENTRY SLIGHTLY LARGER THAN THE PLANTS SHOW . I DON'T KNOW IF RICHARD HAS THOSE PLANS. WE WANT A DECKING THAT GOES DOWN THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE. AND STEPS THAT GO, YOU KNOW, YEAH. SO WE ACTUALLY DID THIS PRETTY HASTY. I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE AND WE DID IT IN ONE DAY WITH CHRISTY'S HELP. RICHARD IS TEAMMATE. >> AND WE GOT IT IN THEIR AND THEN WE WERE, LIKE, WOW. WE ASKED FOR SEVEN. WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE FIVE. BECAUSE IT GIVES US A LITTLE MORE BREATHING ROOM. WE DO NOT WANT , WE PROBABLY WILL NOT EVEN NEED THE TWO, BUT WE DO NOT KNOW. WE CANNOT GO TOO FAR OUT BECAUSE OF THE COMPROMISE OUR SIDEWALK WE HAVE TO HAVE TO DO OUR TRAVELS DOWN THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND TO THE LAKE. SO THE BOARDWALK OR DECKING IS NOT GOING TO BE THE PRIMARY WAY FOR A GUEST OR US TO GET OUT OF OUR CAR WHICH IS BEHIND THE HOUSE AND GOING TO THE LAKE . THAT IS WHY THE DECKING IS LIKE TO HAVE AN ENJOYABLE PLACE TO STEP OUT ON. YOU SIT DOWN IN THE EVENINGS OR WHATNOT. [00:25:02] AND THOSE STEPS , THE DECKING WOULD CARRY DOWN AND WE WOULD STEP ONTO THE GRASS. WE REALLY WANTED TO ASK IF WE COULD HAVE THE SETBACK OF FIVE FEET. VERSUS SEVEN. KRISTI SAID TO MENTION THAT TO Y'ALL. >> >> WELL, MY WIFE IS TRYING TO SAY THAT CURRENTLY, A COUPLE OF ERRORS FOR THE PROPERTY ADDRESSES 6597. THAT IS JUST A SIMPLE ERROR. 6597. THE OTHER ERROR, I BELIEVE, I FEEL CERTAIN THAT THE HOUSE FOUNDATION IS 12 FEET BACK , EVEN THOUGH THEY COULD'VE DONE 10, IT IS 12. SO WE ARE , COMING FROM THE HOUSE OUT, WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE ENTRY A LITTLE BIT LARGER. AND WE WANT TO ENTRY , THE SQUARED OFF ENTRY UNDER THE GABLE TO BE 12 INCHES LARGER THAN THE DECK THAT RUNS ALONG THE BACK. JUST FOR AESTHETICS. THAT IS WHY WE THOUGHT, WOW BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE HAD FIVE. BECAUSE THEN WE JUST HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF PLAYING BUT AGAIN, WE DO NOT WANT TO COMPROMISE TOO MUCH OF THE SIDEWALK. >> HAVING A SITE PLAN? >> I DO. >> A SURVEY WOULD SHOW US EXACTLY HOW FAR YOU ARE. >> WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. IT IS GOING TO LOOK REALLY NICE. HERE IS THE WALKWAY. STEPS COMING DOWN. >> SO THIS IS -- >> THIS IS EXISTING. >> AND HE WOULD LIKE TO COME DOWN A COUPLE MORE FEET? >> YES. >> THE FACE OF THE EXISTING HOME TO YOUR PROPERTY LINE. , WE GAVE OUR ONLY COPY OF THE SURVEY TO OUR CLIENT. >> MIKE, DO YOU KNOW IF THE EXISTING HOME IS REALLY 12 FEET OFF THE LINE OR 10 FEET OFF THE LINE? >> IT IS APPROXIMATE. >> >> OKAY. OKAY. IF HE SAYS IT IS 12, IT IS PROBABLY 12. >> IT IS 12 FEET. AN EXTRA TWO FEET ALLOWS -- LIKE YOU SAW. IS IS EXISTING? >> NO, SIR. >> THAT IS A WHOLE NEW CONCEPT. THE PARTS BACK HERE. YOU HAVE GOT TO MAINTAIN THE SIDEWALK. WE HAVE GOT TO TAKE THE -- TO THE LAKE. >> LET ME ASK YOU. THIS IS EVERYONE COMING OUT WITH THIS. AND GOING DOWN AND AROUND THE SIDEWALK. >> IS THIS PART , DOESN'T NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE VARIANCE ? OR DOES THIS PART STAY WITHIN WHAT IS ALLOWED? BECAUSE THIS COMES OUT . I REALIZE -- BUT IS THIS ALSO? >> YES, THIS WOULD ALSO COME -- SO THAT WOULD BE SIX FOOT. AND WE HAVE GOT A VARIANCE OF -- >> YOU WANT TO BUILD A PORCH. YOU WANT TO BUILD A WALKWAY. >> YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT FROM [00:30:06] THE SIDE HERE. BUT IF -- >> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS -- >> HERE IT IS. SO YOU HAVE THIS. THEY ARE SHOWING -- YEAH. THERE IS A LITTLE MORE SHADE. THE SUN IS BRUTAL. THAT PORCH, YOU CANNOT SIT OUT THERE. >> >> YEAH. SO MY NEIGHBOR OVER HERE >> FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. >> AND REQUIRED SETBACK IS? >> 10. >> 10. SO THIS WHOLE STRUCTURE WILL NOT BE WITHIN THE -- WE JUST NEED, DEPENDING WHAT GOES ON IN WHAT WE DO, WE NEED TO INCLUDE THIS PART AS WELL. >> THEY WERE ASKING YOU TO DROP IT TO SEVEN. HE THOUGHT THAT WAS FIVE AND THAT IS 12, SO THAT WOULD GIVE YOU FIVE. HE WAS SAYING, IF WE COULD GIVE HIM FIVE, THAT WOULD BE BETTER. SOME ROOM. THE ABILITY, HE PROBABLY WOULD NOT -- >> AFTER GOING UP THERE AND DOING THIS , IT IS MAYBE SIX OR 12 INCHES. WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS CABLE. SO NOTHING BULKY SO YOU CAN MAYBE SIT HERE FOR A FEW HOURS AND LOOK OUT AT THE LAKE. IT IS OVER THERE. AND THAT'S IT. BUT I HAVE TO MAINTAIN A SIDEWALK YOUR BUT RIGHT NOW, I HAVE GRASS AND A SIDEWALK RED AND NOW I WILL HAVE TO CUT INTO MY GRASS A LITTLE BIT. THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE AESTHETIC WISE IT LOOKS BETTER TO HAVE THIS TWO FEET LARGER THAN THIS. WE WANT A YOU CAN AT LEAST SIT THERE AND LOOK OUT. >> YEAH. >> CAN WE GO BACK TO THE ARIEL? >> ALL RIGHT. SO THE PEOPLE THAT WROTE THE LETTER, THEY ARE -- I AM THINKING THE PIECE OF PROPERTY IS -- I JUST WANTED TO SEE . IF THEY'RE BUILDING A HOUSE THERE AND IT IS A SKINNY PIECE OF PROPERTY? >> THERE DOC IS HERE. THE PROPERTY LINE IS ON THAT SIDE OF THAT TALK. >> OH, I SEE. >> >> DOUBLE THE WIDTH. >> OH, MY GOD. >> OKAY. THE OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE FOR STAFF. IS HE ALLOWED OR ARE WE ALLOWED TO ADJUST IT TO MORE OF -- >> NO , THAT WAS JUST CONSULTED WITH JAMIE, THE ATTORNEY BECAUSE WAS ADVERTISED, YOU COULD DO LESS BUT NOT MORE. YOU WOULD HAVE TO , WE WOULD HAVE TO -- >> WOULD HAVE TO ADVERTISE PRODUCING IT -- REDUCING IT FROM 10 TO 7. THAT MIGHT WORK IF IT WAS IN FACT, 12. THAT GIVES YOU THE FIVE FOOT WITH YOU NEED TO APPEAL. BUT HAS TO COME BACK AND RE-ADVISE AND DO THE WHOLE KIT AND CABOODLE WITH THE TWO MORE FEET. OKAY. HAVING THE ADVERTISEMENT WITH THE PUBLIC. >> YEAH. THEY COULD CHANGE THEIR MINDS. >> YEAH. HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY , I KNOW WE SAW THE LETTER. >> YEAH, THAT IS THE ONLY CONTACT WE HAVE RECEIVED. >> SO IF WE TALK IT OVER AND EXERCISED. SO WOULD YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN? WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS IF THAT WAS THE APPROACH HE WANTED TO TAKE, THAT IT WOULD BE , BASICALLY, CONTINUED. WE WOULD RE-ADVERTISE IT SO YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO SUBMIT ANOTHER APPLICATION FEE. YOU JUST HAVE TO PAY FOR THE NEW [00:35:02] ADVERTISEMENT. >> IN OTHER WORDS, WE DO NOT ACT ON THIS ONE? >> WE WOULD NOT GO UP OR DOWN TONIGHT. WE WOULD SAY, UNTIL NEXT MONTH . ADVERTISING AT FIVE FEET INSTEAD OF THE SEVEN , AND THEN WE COULD HOLD ONTO THAT TIME. >> I HAVE A SITE TITLE. LAUGHTER ] >> >> FOR THAT, WE CANNOT APPROVE ANY MORE THAN SEVEN TONIGHT. OKAY. THAT IS WHAT OUR ATTORNEY IS SAYING AND THAT IS WHAT WAS ADVERTISED. JAMIE? >> >> THE OTHER THING IS IT PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE NEXT MONTH . BY THE TIME YOU GET WHATEVER AND RE-ADVERTISE , CAN YOU MAKE AN EXCELLENT MEETING? >> AT THIS POINT WE COULD READ YET. IT IS NOT NECESSARILY, HE COULD SUBMIT A NEW APPLICATION. OR AMEND HIS PRESENT ONE. AND THEN WE WOULD ADVERTISE. SO WE CAN LOOK AT DOING IT IN THAT TIME PERIOD. >> JUST TO TAKE IT OFF OF YOU. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE -- HOW ARE YOU DOING WITH YOUR BUILDING PERMIT? IS IT ALREADY DONE EXCEPT FOR THIS ISSUE? >> NO. DOWN THE LINE IS -- ENGINEERING. THAT IS FOUR TO FIVE WEEKS . >> YOU HEAR BACK FROM US IN PLENTY OF TIME. >> I COULD, I WOULD JUST FEEL A LOT BETTER. THIS IS IT. WE ARE NOT LEAVING. SO I JUST THINK IT WOULD GIVE US A LITTLE MORE SPACE. >> IT GIVES YOU THE FLEXIBILITY IF SOMETHING IS LAID OUT INCORRECTLY IN THE FIELD. THEN COMING IN AT FIVE YEARS AND SAYING YOU NEED 66 IS HERE EITHER UP OR DOWN. >> BUT WHEN THE INSPECTOR COMES OUT, HE COULD GIVE A LOT OF GRIEF. >> YEAH, YEAH. HE IS NOT GOING TO WALK THROUGH THE SURVEY LINE. HE WILL SEE IF YOU BUILT IT -- FOR THE PROPERTY LINES. HE KNOWS WHERE THEY ARE. THE OTHER THING, WELL, YEAH. >> SO >> USING THE SAME CHAIN -- SIGN. >> THE SAME SIGN. PROTOCOL. >> JUST SUBMITS AN APPLICATION , JUST APPLICATION, BUT NOT ALL OF THE OTHER MATERIAL. MAKE A REQUEST FOR THE NEW WIDTH OF THE ADDITIONAL. YEAH. THAT IS ALL YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO. GET THAT INTO EITHER KRISTI OR ME. WE WILL MOVE FORWARD. AND THEN WE WILL JUST THREE ADVERTISE AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PAY A NEW APPLICATION FEE. BECAUSE THEY WILL CONTINUE THIS ITEM. YEAH. >> SO I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THIS BACK NEXT MONTH AND INAUDIBLE ] >> YEAH. >> THINGS ARE A LOT MORE GRAY ON THIS. I WAS SORT OF THINKING , I DO NOT WANT TO HAVE TO POSTPONE . WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST? >> THAT I CANNOT HELP YOU WITH. I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU HOW TO DEAL WITH -- >> IS IT YES OR NO?? COMPROMISE AND GO WITH THE SEVEN . >> YEAH, YOU CAN ALWAYS GO THE OTHER WAY. IF NEXT MONTH IS APPROVED AT FIVE. I MEAN -- >> YOU GUYS -- RIGHT. >> GIVING ME SOMETHING. I AM OFFICIALLY OFF OF ROOFING. >> KNOW. I WOULD FEEL -- >> AND I AM COMFORTABLE WITH IT. >> ONE THING TO CONSIDER . THERE ARE THREE OF US HERE TONIGHT. NORMALLY, THERE ARE FIVE. I DON'T KNOW HOW BRIAN AND NIKKI , AND HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT NOT BEING HERE. I DO PLAN TO, THE CALENDAR SAYS I AM GOING TO BE HERE NEXT MONTH. I WILL PROBABLY BE HERE NEXT MONTH. IF WE HAVE ONE. I'M ALWAYS HERE >> >> I WAS HERE EXCEPT FOR NOVEMBER. I AM ALSO A DISTRICT 4 RESIDENT. GOT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS GOING GOOD THAT WAY. I WILL BE HERE. >> YOU SEE A BIG PROBLEM BETWEEN FIVE AND SIX? YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT YOU TO RUN DOWN A [00:40:02] PATH THAT IS INCORRECT. CORRECT. SO IT IS YOUR CALL RIGHT NOW. EITHER WE VOTE OR YOU REQUEST TO DEFER. OKAY? IF WE DENY SEVEN YOU GRADUATE A YEAR TO REAPPLY. >> YEAH. WE COULD APPROVE THE SEVEN THAT YOU HAVE ADVERTISE AND YOU CAN GO FORWARD. >> YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS? >> NO. >> I THOUGHT THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THEN YOU ARE A WHOLE NEW APPLICATION. YEAH, YEAH. AND THIS, THE WAY IT WOULD HAPPEN IS THEY WOULD NOT TAKE AN ACTION. SO IT IS STILL IN PLACE. THE APPLICATION IS -- >> BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS SO HARD TO DEAL WITH RIGHT NOW. I THINK WE HAVE GOT A GOOD OVER. IN FACT, HE JUST TEXTED ME EARLIER. HE SAID , HOW DID THAT GO WITH THE BOARD? LAUGHTER % MARK SO HE HAS -- HE WANTS TO DO THIS DEAL BEFORE HE HAS TO START ON A MUCH LARGER PROJECT. SO I AM KINDA GETTING MORE ENGAGED WITH HIM AND EXACTLY WHAT I AM DEALING WITH. I WOULD YOU MAY SAY, WE ARE ONLY LEAVING A WEEK OR TWO FOR YOU. HE MAY SAY THAT. I CANNOT ENGAGE IN ANY GOOD SOLID CONVERSATION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE NOT APPROVED IT YET. AND THE PLANS GOING TO BE READY ANY MINUTE. >> MIKE, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WITH YOU AND MR. CALLAHAN IS THE APPLICATION THREE. >> YEAH, HE WOULD HAVE TO PAY THE ADVERTISEMENT EITHER WAY. >> SO $3600. >> IS WHEN YOU SAY , IF HE CONTINUES, ALL YOU DO IS STAY AT 1000. IF WE WERE TO APPROVE AND THEN YOU DECIDE TO COME IN AND MORE APPLY FOR A FIVE FOOT. IT WOULD BE THE SAME ADVERTISEMENT, PLUS RUINING YOU BOARD. SO THAT IF YOU SEVERAL HUNDREDS -- SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS MORE -- >> THE SEVEN FOOT, YEAH. >> IT IS YOUR CALL. THE LAST DAY OF THE MONTH. TO GET THE APPLICATION INTO THEM. >> YEAH. IT IS A WHOLE NEW APPLICATION, I CANNOT GUARANTEE WE ARE GOING TO LOCK. OKAY. RIGHT. JUNE. YEAH. YEAH, YOU PROBABLY MISSED JUNE. THE CONTINUATION -- >> >> I CAN WORK WITH YOU. IF YOU GET IT IN TOMORROW, -- >> DELETE CHAIN ON THE APPLICATION IS SEVEN FOOT TO FIVE FOOT. >> YEAH. >> TRUE, IT IS A WHOLE NEW APPLICATION , BUT EVEN THE SIGNATURE IS A LOT TRONIC. >> THE BUILDER IS NOT PURSUING ANYTHING, BUT THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET A SOLID ANSWER. IF YOU ARE GOOD WITH WHAT WE HAVE GOT, THEN WE GO WITH IT. AND THEN OFF TO -- >> WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT, THE NEW APPLICATION, I JUST REALIZED IT SAYS, WHAT IS THE BEST TIME FOR YOU? 5:00 ? 6:00? ANYTHING? I DO NOT KNOW WHY YOU ARE GIVEN A CHOICE? FOR 25 YEARS AND IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN 6:00. YOU, I TELL YOU. >> WHY ARE WE ASKING? >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT, WE CANNOT COME BACK EVERY YEAR. IF WE APPROVE IT, EVEN COMING BACK FOR THE SAME TYPE OF THING, BUT HE CAN DO THAT AND STILL COME BACK. >> IT IS FOR ADDITIONAL, YEAH. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE. >> EVEN IF WE ARE TO DENY THE FIVE , I HAVE HEARD THIS TONIGHT. AND THEN HE APPLIES FOR FIVE FEET. FOR SOME REASON, WITH MY UNDERWEAR WE DENIED THE FIVE FEET HE WOULD STILL HAVE THE FIVE FEET. HE MAY NOT NEED THE FIVE FEET. >> HE MAY NOT. >> OKAY. I KNOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH . THAT IS THE REASON YOU GET PAID SO MUCH IN THE REASON YOU ARE HERE. KEEP US ON TRACK. >> THANK YOU, MR. CALLAHAN. I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO THE [00:45:07] PUBLIC. ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK REGARDING THE CALLAHAN'S PROJECT BOA 24-0003 . THINK ABOUT IT, I WILL CLOSE IT AND BRING IT BACK TO US FOR OUR MOTION. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> HAS SUBMITTED. YES. >> AS SUBMITTED . UNLESS THEY WANT TO GO FOR THE FIVE. >> I AM JUST -- YEAH. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH A SEVEN FOOT SETBACK. >> THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO MAKE SURE. WE NEED TO ADD ANY LANGUAGE THAT IT WOULD BE FOR THE WHOLE ADDITION ON THAT SIDE? NOT JUST THE COVERED? >> I THINK THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE MOTION. YEAH. >> SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO HIS MOTION THAT IT INCLUDES WELL, THE WHOLE WALKWAY . WHAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING IS THAT? >> SOUTH. >> THE SOUTH SIDE BOOTED IN THERE. AND I SECOND THE MOTION. >> YES. I WILL ADMIT MY NOTION TO SAY THAT HAS A SECOND. >> IS YOUR WALKWAY COVERED? SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO REDUCE THE SIDE SETBACK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF YOUR PROPERTY FROM 10 FEET TO SEVEN FEET. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE AYE. >> AYE. >> OH, YOU ARE LIVE OVER THERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH . MAYBE WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT MONTH BUT [3.  Public Hearing to consider BOA 24-0006; Variance to Section 3-33A.III.5.h of the County Land Development Code.] MAYBE WE WON'T. YOU'RE WELCOME. THE NEXT IS BOA 24-0006. WILL GO TO STAFF FIRST. >> CHAIRMAN, THE APPLICANT, I BELIEVE IT IS THE WOD TIMBER COMPANY, INC.. THE AGENT IS RACETRAC, INC. AND ALSO ROGER TOWERS AND COURTNEY GABER. >> OUR CITY IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF -- AND CLEAR WAY. IN HIS UNDEVELOPED. A REQUEST IS A VARIANT ARTICLE THROUGH SECTION 3 DEATH 80 3A REED DOC CAPITAL -- DOC FIVE AND DOCUMENT H. TWO CANOPIES OVER PUMP ISLANDS AND GAS STATION IN THE BRANDON FIELD ACTIVITY CENTER DISTRICT. HERE IS AN AERIAL OF THE PARCEL. AS I INDICATED, THE PARCEL IS LOCATED IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT OF BRANDON AND THREE-WAY. THE PARCEL IS DESIGNATED BRAND-NEW FIELD AND ACTIVITY CENTER LAND USE. BRANDON -- HAS GOOD SERVICE STATIONS REQUIRING ALL ITEMS TO BE UNDER ONE CANOPY. THE APPLICANT DESIRES TO CONSTRUCT A CONVENIENCE FOR A SERVICE STATION THAT PROVIDES TOOLING OR PASSENGER CARS , AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL VEHICLES. APPLICANT DESIRES TO SEPARATE THE TWO OF AREAS FOR SAFETY PURPOSES. THERE FOR, IS REQUESTING TWO CANOPIES. ONE OVER EACH OF THE PUMP AREAS. THIS SPECIAL , CATCHING THE CRITERIA FOR REVIEWING REQUESTED VARIANCE. THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS ARE RELATED TO THE SEPARATION OF THE TWO TYPES OF VEHICLES THAT THEY INTEND TO PROVIDE COOLING OR THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES O CFO WHICH ARE LARGER. AND PASSENGER VEHICLES. THE SITE PLAN PROVIDES THE FOR THESE TWO TYPES OF VEHICLES WITH CANOPIES OVER EACH AREA. THIS WOULD LIMIT THE CONFLICT AND PROVIDE SAFETY BETWEEN AREAS BETWEEN THE PASSENGER VEHICLES AND THE LARGER COMMERCIAL VEHICLES. AS I INDICATED EARLIER, THE COURT REQUIRES ALL PROMPTS TO BE UNDER CANOPY. THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS IN THIS CASE FUELING FOR TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF VEHICLES. WHILE PROVIDING SAFETY . I SEPARATED THEM INTO TWO AREAS AND HAVE TWO VEHICLE TYPES IN A THE [00:50:03] GRANTING, WELCOMING THE TWO KENNEDYS FOR GAS STATION SERVICE. A CYBER STATION BRANDON FIELD ACTIVITY LAND-USE AREA. THE LITERAL INTERPRETATION OF THE CODE WOULD RESULT A SINGLE CANOPY OVER THE TRUE FEELING TIGHT, WAS THE COURSE OF VEHICLES IN THE PAST AND ONE IS FOR THE PASSENGER VEHICLES . IN THE SAME AREA, RESULTING IN SAFETY CONCERNS, ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT. OUR VEHICLE TYPES BUT NOT DEPRIVE THE APPLICANT MUST HIS RATES WHO AN ALTERNATE FOR THE APPLICANT TO GO TO HIGHER COMMERCIAL ART BY PROVIDING A HARDSHIP ON THE APPLICANT. THE MINIMUM VARIANCE ALLOWED , TO ALLOW THE SEPARATE FLOORING ON ROOF. THE GRANTING OF VARIANCE, AGAIN, IT WILL ALLOW FOR SEPARATE FILL-IN AREAS. PROFESSIONAL VEHICLES: ONE FOR PASSENGER VEHICLES, WHILE PROVIDING ENHANCED SAFETY FOR THOSE YOU TO FILE -- UTILIZING THE FUELING AREAS. AND IT -- CANOPY AS REQUIRE BY THE BRAND OF HILTON MASTER PLAN. THIS -- STAFF DOES NOT BELIEVE SUCH A GRANTING, THEY DO BELIEVE THE VARIANCE WOULD NOT BE INDUCED OR OTHERWISE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC WELFARE. FOR SOME DEGREE, THE STATUS OF THE REQUESTED VARIANCE -- VARIANCE FOR SERMON -- STORM THE STATIONS AND THE ACTIVITY CENTER . PLANNED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT CODE. WEBER, THE DESIRE FOR SAFETY, REASONS, FROM THE EDUCATION SO WILL NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC WELFARE THEY RECOGNIZED APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED BARRIERS. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? AT THIS POINT? >> SO IT SAYS YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE CANOPY. >> YES . HE WENT OVER THE CONVENIENCE STORE AND OVER ALL THE ISLANDS YOU WOULD BE GOOD TO GO. BUT WHEN HE WROTE THAT, I DO NOT WANT TO LIE THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT STAFF IS LOOKING AT IS A UPDATE THE CODE. >> I KNOW THIS FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN THE BUSINESS. A LOT OF TIMES, FOR SAFETY, YOU KNOW? YOU WANT THE TRACTOR-TRAILER OVERRUN THE SITE AND THE PASSENGER CAR IS OVER HERE. YOU SEE A LOT, ESPECIALLY ALONG THE INTERSTATE. WHERE IS GREG . DRIVE AROUND LANDON? >> IT IS JUST SOUTH OF THE FREEWAY. ARE HEADING DOWN TOWARD KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. OKAY. SO JUST SOUTH OF THE BORDER THERE? >> IS THIS NEW ROAD THE JUST GOT INSPECTED THE KINDNESS OF -- >> I HAVE KNOWN GREG FOR YEARS. OKAY. >> COMING UP FROM THE SCHOOL . >> YEAH, YEAH, OKAY. OKAY. I WILL ASK THE APPLICANT COME FOR GOOD YOUNG LADY, I GUESS YOU ARE THE APPLICANT. -- MA'AM? OH, ARE YOU AN ATTORNEY? OH, MY GOSH. OKAY. YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? >> YES, I DO. IT WILL BE EVEN SHORTER NOW SINCE WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE. ROGERS TOWERS, 3001 REPLACE BOULEVARD. ILLITERACY TO THE TEAM HERE TONIGHT. WE HAVE MERCEDES WITH RACETRAC, INC. PARTICULARLY FROM ATLANTA TO BE WITH US . AND THEN -- AS A CONTRACT ENGINEER BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS , FEEL FREE. YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD, MIKE. >> SO YOU ALREADY KNOW WHERE THIS IS. IT IS ABOUT A HALF-MILE WEST OF THE EXPRESSWAY COMING YOUR BID AS YOU HEARD, VISAS ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT IT BASICALLY, WE ARE HERE TO SAY THE STANDARDS ONLY ALLOW ONE CANOPY, NOT TWO. [00:55:07] MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, WILL HAVE TWO ACCESSORIES OFF OF THE GREGORY CLEARY WAIT FOR THE ONE THAT IS CLOSEST TO THE SOUTH WOULD BE FOR THE REGULAR VEHICLES COMING IN AND THE AUTO COURT . 16 PUMPS IN THE FRONT. AND THEN YOU SEE THE ACCESS WAY TO THE NORTH OF THAT IS GOING TO BE FOR EVEN EAGER DIESEL TRUCKS, LANDSCAPE VEHICLES CARING TRAILERS OR THEY'LL COME AROUND TO THE SIDE. YOU SEE FOR WHAT WE ARE CONSIDERING THE DIESEL COMMERCIAL PUMPS THAT ARE THERE ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SITE PLAN, THOSE ARE TRUTH RULINGS WITH SOMETHING I DID NOT REALIZE BEFORE. SOME OF THE BIGGER TRUCKS ACTUALLY THROW FROM BOTH SIDES WOULD THOSE PUMPS ALLOW FOR THAT SO YOU DO NOT HAVE COMING IN THE MIDDLE. IT WILL BASICALLY -- TRAFFIC SO YOU DO NOT HAVE SOMEONE'S TRAILER BLOCKING A DRIVE I'LL PUT IT REALLY DOES ALLOW THE WAY THE SITE PLAN IS CONFIGURED TO KEEP THOSE TRAFFIC FROM INTERFERING WITH ONE ANOTHER. >> IS A SAFETY FOR OPERATIONAL. BECAUSE THE LAND OF THE CODES IS EVERYTHING IS TO BE UNDER ONE CANOPY, THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE THIS EVENING. WE ARE ONLY ASKING FOR THE PUMPS, THE MAXIMUM 20 THAT ARE ALLOWED. AND THEY WILL JUST BY THE FOUR OF THE 16 . >> HOW DO WE MAKE TRUCKS EXIT? I CAN SHOW YOU. >> THAT TURNAROUND TO THE EAST. >> HAVE GOT IT. HERE, WE ARE CHEVRON. IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET AROUND THAT? WOKE UP AROUND -- THE TOP DID NOT . ON THE EXIT, IT IS A RATING, RIGHT OUT ONLY. THAT WAS MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THIS. PEER HOW MUCH ROOM TO TURN. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THEM , THE BIG CANOPY. BUT NOW I AM BEING KIND OF RIDICULOUS. BY THE WATERS GETTING DOWN. >> BUT OKAY. I DID DRINK SOME -- OBVIOUSLY, I WILL NOT BELABOR ON THE CRITERIA. MR. BROWN HAS THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT. SO I BROUGHT TWO PHOTOS THIS IS BECOMING REALLY POPULAR SITE PLAN IN FLORIDA WHICH BLOCKS SEVERAL OF THESE LOCATIONS. THE MOST RECENT ONE BEING JACKSONVILLE OFF RICHARD ROAD. THIS IS NOT RICHARD ROAD. THIS IS FROM -- GEORGIA FOR THIS IS DEFINITELY BECAUSE THE SITE CAN GRADUATION WAS -- OBVIOUSLY WE ARTY HAVE UPON THERE. THE OTHER PART OF OUR SEVEN ACRES IS BASED THE FLOOD AREA THAT IS COMPLETELY WENT. WE ARE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE , THIS IS A GOOGLE VIEW OF PHONE FLORIDA HAS ONE OF THESE. AS YOU CAN SEE FRONTCOURT AND YOU KNOW, THE SITE PLANS ARE LITTLE DIFFERENT BUT THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. >> FROM THE PASSENGER ISLAND TO THE FRONT DOOR. >> WHAT WAS THAT QUESTION? >> SO THERE IS A CANOPY OVER THE ISLAND. IF I AM THERE IN THE LANE , AND I WANT TO STOP FOR A CUP OF COFFEE, I COULD GET OUT IN THE LANE. THAT IS KIND OF A PET PEEVE OF MINE BEING IN THIS BUSINESS. I TRY TO PUT THOSE IN BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU AT LEAST A CORRIDOR TO LEARN . >> I DON'T KNOW IF I EVER GOT GAS AT A GAS STATION THAT IS DONE THAT WAY. >> YEAH. SO IF YOU MOVE YOUR CAR UP TO A PARKING STALL AND NOT TAKE UP THE GAS, BUT I AM NOT COURTEOUS. I THINK THERE ARE THOSE THAT DO DO THAT. MOST OF THE ONES I DESIGN, AND I GO FOR AND WORK FOR RESTRICTED MOST OF THE ONES I DESIGN, I WOULD PUT THAT IN. RECOMMEND TO THE OWNER TO PUT IT IN BECAUSE IT IS ALL OVER IN FLORIDA, YOU KNOW? YOU CAN'T REDO IT BACK WHERE THE TRUCKS ARE BECAUSE THE TRUCKS ARE TOO TALL. BUT ANYWAY. THAT'S IT. >> THAT'S ALL MY PRESENTATION. I WILL INTRODUCE OUR REPRESENTATIVE. WITH STAFF RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL INTENT , THE RECOMMENDED VARIANCE REQUEST. >> YOUR SITE PLAN. LET'S GO BACK. ONE MORE. THERE WAS ONE RAPID ONE THAT WAS SIGNED AND SEALED. I WANTED TO SEE. >> OH, YEAH. >> GO BACK ONE MORE, MIKE. YOUNG LADY YOU SIGNED AND SEALED IT >> OH, IT IS NOT SIGNED. WHAT [01:00:08] IS YOUR NUMBER? I AM IN THE 36,000. >> AND THAT I THINK THIS PERSON IS 12 YEARS OLD. >> THAT'S ENOUGH. JUST LIKE I JUST LIKE MY DOCTOR. THEY ARE YOUNGER THAN MY KIDS, YOU KNOW? MORE FOR YOU. THIS REALLY IS NOT ABOUT THIS, BUT I WANTED TO ASK YOU AS WELL. WOULD YOU CONSIDER I DRIVE A 32 FOOT RV. AND I PULL A PICKUP BEHIND IT. I HAVE TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME I MEAN, GETTING INTO , AND GET YOU WHAT ? THIS LOOKS LIKE WHEN I WOULD GO, YOU KNOW WHAT? IT DOES NOT LOOK EASY? TURNS MAKE THE TRUCK BEHIND IT. >> WHERE THE TRUCKS GO. I DID. >> >> TRUCK CLEAN IS OPTIONAL ? OR IS THAT DIESEL? >> LEGITIMATE QUESTION FOR PEOPLE. WHO HAVE DONE IT. AND THE 18 MILLION AND THE CLASS A WITH THE TRUCK. YOU CAN TURN AN 18 EARLIER KIND OF EARLIER. BUT YOU CAN AFFORD A -- WITH A 20 FOOT TRUCK. THAT IS A PURE MATHEMATICAL THING. AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GOT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE PARKING IN YOUR PLACES , WHATEVER. SERIOUSLY. WE DO AND THERE ARE A LOT OF OUR FEARS. IT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. TO -- TO ME, I PROBABLY WOULD NOT GO THERE. BECAUSE TRYING TO LINE MYSELF TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, TO MISS EVERYTHING AND GET OUT WITH THE PICKUP, IT JUST WOULD BE A PAIN. >> HE MOVED THE RACETRACK BECAUSE YOU MILLED IN -- IT WILL SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS. >> HEAVILY SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. YOU ARE RIGHT. >> THE TANKS ARE RIGHT THERE. >> YEAH. >> >> SO IF I HAD TO DO THAT, WHAT, MA'AM? >> FOOD FOR THOUGHT. IF YOU HAD TO GO THERE BECAUSE OF WHATEVER -- SO I COULD COME IN AND COME STRAIGHT DOWN. I WOULD HAVE TO WAIT AND TAKE ONE OF THOSE ONES I WOULD BE ALIGNED WITH . >> WOULD BE BLOCKING THE FRONT DOOR. EXACTLY. IT IS A LONG SOMETHING. >> YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. A VERY NICE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THE SITE PLAN. BEFORE WE GET ANOTHER SITE PLAN, OH, HELP US OUT. OKAY. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THIS PEER DOES ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST A COMMENT OR TALK ABOUT HOW YOUNG YOU ARE? OKAY. WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND COME BACK TO US. DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR BEING ALLOWED TO HAVE TWO CANOPIES AND NOT ONE? >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I WANTED TO ADD REAL QUICK BECAUSE WE RECEIVED A LETTER OF OPPOSITION ON THIS. I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT LETTER. AND IF THAT PERSON IS WATCHING THIS EVENING . THE LETTER STATED THIS IS MY OBJECTION OF ANY REZONING IN THE AREA. THIS AREA SHOULD BE PRESERVED. I WANT TO ADD THIS AREA HAS ALREADY BEEN ZONED. THIS IS NOT WHAT THIS ORGANIZATION IS HERE TO DO TONIGHT. WE ARE HERE TO APPROVE A VARIANCE. THIS HAS BEEN A PART OF THE ACTIVITY DISTRICT FOR MANY, THE ACTIVITY CENTER FOR MANY, ANY YEARS NOW. THIS HAS BEEN REZONED FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW. THE JOB OF THIS BOARD TO APPROVE VARIANCES . WITH THAT, I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND . >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE APPROVAL OF BOA 24-0006 FOR TWO CANOPIES. ALL IN FAVOR [01:05:04] SAY AYE AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSE? THAT PASSES THREE MINUS RAPID GOOD LUCK TO YELL, LADIES. ANYTHING ELSE TO COME BEFORE THIS ILLUSTRIOUS BOARD? >> I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE -- MCCOY, THE NEW SENIOR PLANNER WHO YOU MAY SEE MORE AND MORE. >> OKAY. DID YOU COME FROM JACKSONVILLE? >> HIGHWAY OF SOMEWHERE ELSE, RIGHT? >> BY WAY OF? GOOD. GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US. >> IS THIS IN ADDITION TO YOUR STAFF ARE IN REPLACEMENT OF SOMEBODY? >> IT IS IN ADDITION. >> GOOD. GOOD. I KNOW BETH MOVED UP. AND SO YOU NEED ALL THE HELP YOU CAN GET. >> RIGHT. YEAH. BECAUSE MR. LANE HAD RETIRED WE HAVE TO SAY NUMBER. NO, IT IS A NEW POSITION. >> AT SOME POINT I WILL. HI >> WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE SOMETIME TULSA BIT I DO NOT WANT YOU TO RETIRE. I MEAN, I DID NOT WANT ED TO RETIRE BUT HE HAD ISSUES. WE APPRECIATE ALL OF HIS YEARS WITH HUSBAND YOU CANNOT RETIRE, MIKE. I AM SORRY. I'VE ONLY KNOWN YOU FOR 50 YEARS. YOU CANNOT RETIRE. >> YOU WILL HAVE TO TAKE IT UP WITH MY WIFE. >> HAMMER. I HAVE TALKED TO MY WIFE AND SHE SAID, NOPD ARE NOT GOING TO RETIRE COULD GO BACK AND WORK. A MEETING NEXT MONTH. >> YET. OH, JUST THAT ONE? >> IT IS VERY NICE TO HAVE YOU WITH US. >> I'LL THERE WILL BE ANOTHER COMMENT ABOUT JAEGER FOOTBALLER GEORGIA FOOTBALL. NOBODY? ANYBODY? THAT IS ON ME. OKAY, SEEING NOBODY, I WILL CLOSE IT COULD IS ADJOURNED. >> SO MOVED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.