SPECIAL STAFF RECOGNITION

[16. Agreement with CSX Transportation, Inc. regarding Russell Road (CR 209) Roadway Widening for Bonded Transportation Program Project 2 (E. Dendor)]

THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. I DON'T NUMBER 16?

>> I PULLED I DON'T NUMBER 16, BECAUSE I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ED. AND WHAT MY QUESTION IS, THE WAY THIS READS , I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE COST OF EVERYTHING AND WHERE THINGS HAVE GONE. IT HAS AN AMOUNT OF -- HAS REIMBURSABLE EXPENSES IN THE AMOUNT OF BASICALLY 1 1/2 OR $1.5 MILLION COMPLETED IN JUNE. BUT MY QUESTION IS, DOES IT HAVE A CAT? BECAUSE

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EVERYTHING ELSE HAS GONE UP IN PRICE. I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE APPROVING AND OPEN ENDED AGREEMENT , ESPECIALLY NOT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF MAX.

>> GOOD EVENING TO THE BOARD AND CHAIR.

JOSH MATTIX, PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS . A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND , THE CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT WITH CSX TRANSPORTATION FOR THE WIDENING AND INSTALLATION OF THE IN CROSSINGS WITH REAL-WORLD WARNING SIGNS THROUGH THE CROSSING JANUARY 209. IT IS FOR PROJECT NUMBER TWO. CS X AND THERE IS ONE $47,845 , CSX COMPLETED THEIR DESIGN WITHOUT INPUT . AND THEIR INITIAL ESTIMATE FOR THE DESIGN, THEY DID AND WERE ABLE TO COME IN WITH THE ENDING RESULT WAS.

THAT'S OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS. AS FAR AS THE AGREEMENT, IT IS THE CSX AGREEMENT. WE WERE ABLE TO WORK OUR CONTRACTORS . IT IS A REIMBURSABLE CS X STANDARD CONTRACT. WE DID ASK THEM TO MODIFY IT. BUT WITH THAT, WE DON'T HAVE THE DISAGREEMENT, THE PROJECT IS --

>> IT'S REALLY COMFORTABLE. AS SHELLEY, I DEFINITELY DID NOT THINK IT BELONGED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT I'M NOT SURE. IT JUST FEELS LIKE THE COUNTY TAKING IT ON THE CHIN BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY HAVE -- I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT FOR THE TAXPAYER. IF YOU'RE LISTENING, CSX'S.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? >> NO. THAT'S MY QUESTION.

>> THE CHAIR WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> HAVE EMOTION AND SECOND .

ANY DISCUSSION? >> I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CONDON THAT IT'S NOT A COMFORTABLE POSITION TO BE IN.

WHEN YOU DEAL WITH CSX AND NOT ONLY DEALING WITH CSX ON THE BOARD, BUT OTHER SITUATIONS, IT IS. SO, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE A DEBT IN THE WATER. WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD, HAVE COMPLETE CONFIDENCE IN ED AND RICHARD AND THE OTHERS THAT WE ARE DOING WITH THE SITUATION THERE . THEY WILL DO THE VERY BEST THEY CAN FOR THE COUNTY. OTHERWISE, FOLKS HAVE FREE TIME, THEY CAN CALL THE CSX SWITCHBOARD TOMORROW AND LET THEM KNOW THEY COMMUNICATE BETTER WITH THEIR CUSTOMERS AND WHAT TO CHANGE AND PROVIDE EVERY DAY HERE IN CLAY COUNTY.

THAT THE BEST WE CAN DO.

YOU LOOK AT THE WALKING PATH , A RUN, ON DR. SLEEP DRIVE CAICOS 12 FEET FOR THE COUNTY HAD RIGHT AWAY DOWN TO EIGHT, SIX, FOUR, TWO FEET AT THE CORNER OF KINGSLEY , BECAUSE CSX ON THE PROPERTY. WE CAN NEVER GET COMMISSION FROM CSX TO PUT A 12 FOOT BIKE LANE ALL THE WAY TO KINGSLEY. THEY JUST WOULD NOT APPROVE IT. WHEN YOU'RE WORKING WITH 100 POUND GORILLAS , CSX AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY WIELD THAT POWER IN DIFFERENT WAYS. THEIR UNYIELDING AREAS SUCH AS THIS, ANYWAYS. HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? HEARING ON CALL THIS A FAVOR COST THEY EYE . CLEAR BROOK

[22. Progress Report on the Bonded Transportation Program (E. Dendor)]

THAT COMPLETES THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS

THE PROGRESS REPORT . >> THANK YOU. LET'S GET RIGHT INTO IT. PROJECT NUMBER ONE, WE REALLY VIEWED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION ARTIST 23, 24,/25. RECOMMENDATIONS WERE ON FEBRUARY 13TH, BOARD MEETING IN CONJUNCTION WITH CCO EIGHT UTILITY WORK IN ANDERSON, COLUMBIA. HOWEVER, THERE WAS A BUDGET SHORTFALL. IN THE SAME MEETING, THE TEAM REQUESTED TO WITH AND BE WHICH WAS ENFORCED EARLIER. DON'T LOOK FOR WAYS TO SECURE THE SHORTFALL. FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET ADJUSTMENT . ALONG WITH THE GUIDANCE. AND THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH THE TEAM DID AT THE 27TH. IN

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CONJUNCTION WITH CCO IS BOARD APPROVAL WHICH IS GOING TO BE MARCH 19 NEXT WEEK. FOR NUMBER TWO, PROJECT NUMBER TWO, FIVE AND A ON FEBRUARY 15 , THE U.S. DISTRICT COURT IN D.C.

AND CHEWED AN OPINION THAT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON MANY OF THE PROJECTS WITHIN THE ORDER REQUIRING PERMITS UNDER THE FLOOR OF THE PROGRAM. -- ON BEHALF OF THE FEDERAL ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. THE RULING APPLIES PERMIT THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW. -- BASED ON THIS FEDERAL MANDATED RULE TEAM IS EVALUATING IMPACTS THIS WILL HAVE ON THE PROJECTS. SPECIFICALLY, FOR PROJECT NUMBER TWO, THE NEW RULING BY THE DISTRICT COURTS WILL HAVE MINOR IMPACTS OF THIS PROJECT. SINCE THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY ISSUED, IT WAS -- AND GRUBBING WORK ON THE WEST GROVE TRACKS AS WELL AS RIGHT AWAY WITH ROAD TO A NINE. ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD, SUPERIORS PLACED SILT FENCE ALONG THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND STARTED CLEARING -- U.S. 17 , ROAD 209. FOR PROJECT 25, T 20 , THE FF OR PERMIT -- REGARDLESS IS THE PERMITTING ISSUES ARE RESOLVED, THE PROJECT DATA WILL BE PATCHED UP AND DELIVERED TO THE COUNTY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FUTURE PHASE AND INSTRUCTION. FOR PROJECT SIX, THE PERMIT FOR THIS PROJECT WILL ALSO BE IN BY THE FEDERAL ON THE SD FOR PERMIT. DUE TO THE PERMANENT IMPACT OF PROJECT SIX 860 .

THE TEAMS EVALUATED THE OPTIONS ON HOW TO -- ACQUISITION EFFORTS CONTINUE ON SOME OF THE PROFITS INJURE THE PROCEEDINGS. THE LITIGATIONS FOR THIS PROJECT WERE APPROVED FOR THE FEBRUARY MEETING. -- CONTINUE TO BE DEVELOPED AND WERE COMPLETED ON FEBRUARY. COMMENTS ARE PROVIDED TO JACOBS ON THE 100% PLAN SET WHAT JACOBS IS RESPONDING TO THE COMMENTS AND UPDATING THE PLANS. FINAL PLANS FOR THE ULTIMATE ACTIONS ARE EXPECTED AT THE END OF MARCH. IT WILL BE SHELVED AGAIN FOR THE PHASE CONSTRUCTION . SEYMOUR GROUP ONE, PROJECT THREE , JANUARY 209 , CONTRACTOR AND DEVELOPMENT PULVERIZATION START OPERATION AND SAFETY.

EXTREME AND AT WATKINS ROAD. ON FEBRUARY 14TH, CONTRACT PLACE ROADWAY BARRICADE SIZE COUNTY ROAD 209 CROSS STREET ENTRANCE AS WELL AS OAK STRING DRIVE I CAIRO 209. WILL BE CLOSE FOR AN ESTIMATED 180 DAYS FROM THAT FEBRUARY 14TH DAY.

FOR THE 3B SECTION, WHICH CONNECTS THE EASTERN PROJECT AND UNDERSTOOD THE ROUNDABOUT , HERE HE CONTINUES TO PRE-GLOBALIZATION ACTIVITIES WHILE WORKING WITH THE COUNTIES TO DEVELOP THE PROCEEDS TASK AUTHORIZATIONS. THE TEAM CONTINUES WORKING PROPERTY OWNERS TO STAIN THE BALANCE ROADWAY ALIGNMENT. PROJECT FOUR, THE ROAD CONTINUES CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES ALONG BOTH SIDES OF CROSS SANDERS ROAD WITH STORMWATER DRAIN PIPE , DRAINED INSTRUCTIONS AND ROAD CONSTRUCTION. MOVING ON TO 6B, PROJECT 6B , THE TEAM CONTINUES TO HOLD THEIR BIMONTHLY STATUS MEETING , CUTTING THE OPERATIONS CONTINUE THROUGHOUT THE ROADWAY COURT OR FROM STATE ROAD 23 AT THE FAR WEST END OF THE PROJECT, COUNTY ROAD 315 AND MERRILL AVENUE ON THE FAR EAST END. THE OPERATIONS ARE COMPLETED ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CREEK. WHILE CONTRACTOR BEGAN SETTING BRIDGE BEING ON THE PILE CAPS. THE TEAM CONTINUES TO MEET WITH UTILITY PROVIDERS TO INCORPORATE UTILITIES IN THE PLANS. AND OF DRAINPIPES INSULATION CONTINUE TO BE PLACED. SUBBASE, WIMAX AND SIDEWALK AND TRIMMING ARE ALSO EAST OF THE PROJECT . IN SUPPORT OF ALL THIS EFFORT, THE BGI CONTINUES TO SUPPORT ACROSS THE -- BACK WITH MY DATE.

>> I'M GOING TO ASK IF I CAN PLAY A RECORDING. IT PERTAINS TO THIS. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITIZENS IN OUR AREA PEOPLE ARE GETTING ANGRY. SIMON IS NOT FUN. WE ALL KNOW

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AND ARE GOING THROUGH A LOT IN THAT AREA. I DON'T TIME IN OUR COUNTY THIS DEAR THAT'S BEEN SO MUCH IN OUR AREA. WE ARE, BACK INTO IT WE HAD TO HAVE IT DONE.

>> FROM THE CLAY COUNTY DESERVE BETTER THAN WHAT YOU'VE ALLOWED THE COMPANY, THE OUTCOME OF YOUR TO DO . THIS ROAD IS A TOTAL JOKE. I'M SURE YOU HAVE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF CALLS ABOUT THE SHAPE THAT IS IN . YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF , BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN CLAY COUNTY AND YOU SHOULD WANT BETTER FOR ALL OF US HERE TO PAY TAX . I HOPE SOMETHING BECOMES OF THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO PERSONALLY SAY TO RUSSELL, WHOEVER YOU ARE, IF YOU KNOW HIM, PLEASE LET ME KNOW THAT COMMENTED THAT, BECAUSE HE WOULD NOT ANSWER MY PHONE CALL.

I AM ASHAMED. I'M ASHAMED OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT TOSS ABOUT THE HARD-WORKING PEOPLE THAT ARE IN OUR COUNTY RIGHT NOW, WORKING TO MAKE OUR LIVES BETTER . IT IS NOT FUN TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH WHAT WE ARE DOING. I LIVE RIGHT THERE.

I'M A COMMISSIONER IN THE DISTRICT. PEOPLE ALWAYS SAY YOU NEVER GO. YES I DO I LIVE RIGHT THERE. IT'S GOING TO BE NICE WHEN IT DONE. I UNDERSTAND IT'S HORRIBLE RIGHT NOW. THAT ROAD WAS BUILT ON TOP OF SAND . MY HUSBAND SAID, EVIDENTLY THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED SANDRIDGE. I DID NOT REALLY THINK OF THAT. THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE. THERE WERE NO DRAINAGE PIPES, THEY'VE HAD TO DIG UP EVERYTHING TO MAKE OUR ROADS, NOW WORK AND BE OF GOOD QUALITY. SO, IT DOES NOT HELP AT ALL , FOR THIS ANGER TO COME OUT. AND THREATENING WORKERS THAT ARE OUT THERE , THREATENING THE FLAGGERS. COME ON, WE'RE BETTER THAN THIS.

YES, I'M DEFINITELY ASHAMED. I'M NOT ASHAMED OF THE JOB, BECAUSE I WORK HARD AND I PUT UP WITH THIS ALL THE TIME AS WELL AS ALL THE REST OF US DO, BUT COME ON, LET'S WORK TOGETHER AND GET THROUGH THIS . IN A COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK BACK AND YES IT WAS HARD, BUT THANK GOD WE DID IT AND THANK GOD WE HAVE PROJECT MANAGERS THIS IN THERE STUCK IN THEIR AND DEALT WITH ANGER AND JUST THE HARD TIMES THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.

WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS . WE HAVE ENOUGH ISSUES IN OUR COUNTRY THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE ACTING LIKE THIS IN OUR COUNTY.

WE LIVE IN A WONDERFUL COUNTY. WE SHOULD BE PROUD. THAT'S ALL.

AND. GOING BACK TO THE FIRST PAGE OF THE REPORT, HE SAID THAT THERE WERE , THAT BECAUSE OF AN ISSUE AND AN OPINION DOES ISSUE, THERE WOULD BE IMPACT ON PROJECT . AND THEN IT SAYS THAT ANY PERMIT, WHICH THE STATE WAS GRANTING WETLAND PERMITS , I WANT SOME CLARIFICATION THERE AS TO WHAT THAT ENTAILS. I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGE, I KNOW THE CHANGES WILL AFFECT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CHANGES.

WHO CAN ALSO HELP . AS FAR AS THE ORIGINAL , FEDS HAD FEDERAL HAD ALLOWED THIS DATE TO LOOK AT AND BASICALLY LOOK AT THEIR WETLANDS, WOULD AND THE TERMINAL OF THOSE JURISDICTIONS, EVIDENTLY, HAPPEN ITSELF, THERE WAS A PUSHBACK AND NOW THE U.S. DISTRICT COURT AND THE IS NO TO LOOK AT THOSE JURISDICTIONAL WETLAND THAT THERE FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SO, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PERMIT WHERE WE LOOK AT THE STATE TO HELP, THAT NO LONGER GOING TO HAPPEN .

IT'S GOT TO GO BACK TO THE FED. IF YOU ARE YOU HAVE A PERMIT THE STATE ISSUED , LESTER SAY HE HAD A PERMIT WITH THE DATE, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU WANT TO GET A MODIFICATION TO THAT, NOW THERE MAY BE A PROBLEM WITH THE MODIFICATION.

IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHERE YOUR PERMIT IS THAT IN THE LINE PERMITTING. BUT IF IT WAS JUST AN ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERING PERMIT. THERE IS NO PROBLEM WITH THOSE PERMITS GOING TOWARD. THEY'RE STILL MANAGING THE . BUT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS PERMITTED BACK DOWN TO THE STATE WHERE IT WAS FOR THE FEDS, THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

>> JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE PROBLEM IS IT'S A BLANKET

REJECTION JEOF THE PERMIT? >> IF IT WAS IN FLIGHT OR

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MODIFICATION TO IT, BUT IF IT WAS ARTIE ISSUED, LIKE PROJECT

DUE, WE ARE OKAY. >> WAS THE DEAL ON PROJECT FIVE ? WHERE ARE WE IN THE PAST ? ARE WE IN JEOPARDY?

>> OUR PERMIT WAS ON THE DESK TO BE SIGNED BY THE DATE. IF THEY WERE TO SIGN AT THE FRONT OF OR, WE WOULD HAVE HAD A PERMIT. NOW, SINCE HE DIDN'T SIGN IT, THE NEXT WEEK IT CAME OUT, AND SHUT IT DOWN, SO WE WERE NOT ABLE TO GET THE

PERMIT. >> WAS THE IMPACT OF NOT

GETTING THE PERMIT. >> WHAT WE ARE DOING IS GOING BACK TO BEING THE FIRST ON THE PILE FOR THE ARMY CORPS AND WE ACTUALLY TURNING OUR GUNS ALMOST LIKE A HELLO PROCESS, LET IT CONTINUE WITH THE STATE, WHATEVER THAT MAY COME AND ALSO TRY TO GET WITH ARMY CORPS AND FILL OUT THE PERMIT PROCESS TO MOVE DOWN. IS IT DAYS, MONTHS? WE HAD THE BEST PROFESSIONALS LOOK AT IT AND THEY CAN'T TELL US IS GOING TO BE SIX MONTHS,

EIGHT MONTHS OR SIX WEEKS. >> OBVIOUS NEXT QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS IF IT'S REJECTED?

>> LOOKING AT JOSH, IF IT'S REJECTED , THE INTENT WAS TO FINALIZE THE DESIGN, GET AS MUCH OF A PURCHASE, AND THEY CAN THE EAST ON 220 THROUGH THE INTERSECTION. THIS IS THE NEXT SECTIONS OF THE WEST OF THE WATER INTERSECTION THAT WE WANT. WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ON OUR SIDE ACTUALLY.

IT'S OF A BENEFIT, IF YOU WOULD. THE DELAY REALLY WON'T HURT THAT CONSTRUCTION, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT READY TO GO.

THINK IT'S IN THE 2020 RANGE WHERE THE ARMY CORPS WAS TOTALLY ON THE PERMIT APPLICATIONS AND THEY COULD NOT KEEP UP . SO, THE STATE AND ARMY CORPS GOT TOGETHER AND SAID -- WE SHOULD NOT REALLY BE PERMITTING THE FILM WETLANDS IN THE MIDDLE OF A COUNTY WHERE WE ARE WORRIED MERELY FOR NAVIGABLE WATERWAYS AND ANY PRESSINGS WITHIN THE JIFFY OF HIGH WATER AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO, THE STATE TOOK OVER THAT PROGRAM. THERE ARE SOME ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS OUT THERE THAT I BASICALLY FILED SUIT AGAINST THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND SOME OTHERS SAYING THE STATE WERE PERMITTING PROGRAM, IS NOT TO THE LETTER OF THE LAW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS RUNNING AND THERE ARE SOME CHECKS AND BALANCES THAT WERE NOT TAKING PLACE. THE RULING WAS TO PUT A HOLD ON THE PERMIT EFFORT UNTIL THEY FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS WERE GOING TO BE. IN THE MEANTIME, ENVIRONMENT PROTECTION AGENCY REALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT. THERE WAS SOME ENDANGERED SPECIES AND BIOLOGICAL ASSESSMENTS THAT WERE NOT BEING DONE, OR NOT BEING DONE TO THE LEVEL THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE . THEY WERE NOT HAPPENING. THAT'S WHAT THE HOPE IS. THE EPS GIVEN THE ARMY CORPS DIRECTION. NOW YOUR SPONSOR FOR APPROVING THESE PERMIT NOW. THE PROBLEM WE ARE FACED NOT JUST CLAY COUNTY, THE WHOLE STATE OF FLORIDA. NOW, THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS RESPONSIBLE FOR PERMITTING ALL FILLED. ANY IMPACT IN THE STATE. WE ARE DOING. THEY'RE TRYING TO GET OUT OF THE LINE.

WITH TAKING THE LEG WORK ALREADY DONE , ARM OR A COUPLE MINUTES REMAINS OR NOT. I HOPE THEY KNOW WE'VE GOT ALL THIS DONE . NOW WE ARE RESUBMITTING THE SAME PACKAGE TO THE ARMY CORPS. HOPEFULLY, WE CAN ALL GET IN THERE FASTER THAN OTHERS, I GUESS. BUT IT COULD BE A TIME-CONSUMING SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR BEFORE WE GET A PERMIT AS FAR AS GETTING AND HAVING THEM NOT APPROVED, I FEEL CONFIDENT WITH THE LEGWORK WE PENCIL OUR AND WHERE WE WERE IN THE PROCESS WITH REQUESTING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE STAGE AND AND GIVING THEM THE INFORMATION AND BE SO CLOSE TO THEM BEING SIGNED. I REALLY DON'T SEE THEM BEING A MAJOR HOLDUP OF THEM BEING REJECTED OR MAYBE SOME MORE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BECAUSE IS GOING TO A DIFFERENT AGENCY NOW.

ALSO, ALL OF THESE PROJECTS, WE'VE ARTIE OBTAINED ALL THE FEDERAL AND STATE WETLAND MITIGATION CREDITS WE NEEDED.

ALTHOUGH SCORES HAVE BEEN CALCULATED AND ALL THE VIKINGS BEEN VERIFIED. THERE COULD BE A NEED TO VERIFY SOME OF THE WETLAND FLAGGING WITH ARMY CORPS, SO THEY WERE NOT

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VERIFYING THE FLAGGING IN THE FIRST PLACE. THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT . WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT IN OUR ENVIRONMENTALIST AND THERE FLAGGING CAPABILITIES THAT THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY CHANGE.

>> WE WILL KEEP OUR FINGERS CROSSED.

>> JUST A FOLLOW-UP TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. THIS IS THE ONLY PERMIT THAT IN THAT PARTICULAR STATUS THAT WAS GOING TO THE STATE THAT NONE IS TO GO TO THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. DO WE HAVE ANY OF THE PERMITS THAT ARE IN THAT

SITUATION? >> I THINK THE HEAVIER LIST FOR US IS 416 6B COME TOGETHER. ON THE TEAM EAST AND WEST. WE ARE WAITING FOR THAT PERMIT . SINCE THIS REALLY HAS COME OUT, WE ARE LOOKING AT TO REDEFINE, IF YOU WITH THE ALIGNMENT SIX A AND 6B WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE OF THE WHAT THAT WILL BE CARRIED, THAT'S KIND OF THE RIDGE, HE WOULD AND THE TEAM IS STILL WORKING ON THAT. THIS IS JUST A MATTER OF A COUPLE WEEKS OLD. WE MET AGAIN THIS MORNING. WE MET ON THE END OF LAST WEEK. WE CONTINUE TO PUSH AND FIND THE RIGHT ANSWER.

AGAIN, WE WANT SIX AND 6B TO COME TOGETHER AND CONTINUE .

THAT MIGHT NOT LIKE THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT WE HAD.

>> I'M CONCERNED, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS DOES NOT SET THE SPEED RECORD IN TERMS OF REVIEWING THESE PERMIT REQUESTS AND TURNING THEM AROUND AND GETTING BACK TO US. WE ACTUALLY HAD TO UTILIZE THE COUNTY MANAGER'S MILITARY CONNECTIONS TO BE ABLE TO GET SOMEBODY TO SIGN UP ON SOMETHING THAT WAS SITTING ON SOMEONE'S DESK FOR A WHILE. DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE THAT THIS IS GOING TO CAUSE US SOME SERIOUS DELAYS IN THEM OF THESE AREAS THAT WE ARE GOING

TO BE DEPENDING ON? >> I DON'T WANT TO BURN DOWN HOUSE RIGHT NOW. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF SMART OAKS AND GOOD ENGINEERS THAT ARE LOOKING AT IT. JUST ONE, BUT FOR S&H AS WELL AS JACOB. THEY CAME TOGETHER IN AT THAT MEETING POINT. -- AS WELL AS ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTISTS OUT THERE. AND HOW WE MITIGATING AGAINST WHETHER A PURCHASE.

THEIR CREDIT. I DON'T SEE ANY BETTER WAY TO PUT A BETTER TEAM TOGETHER TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE JUST AS DIFFICULT WHEN YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE STATE ORGANIZATION GIVING YOU THE HEAD AND NOT IS GOING RIGHT DIRECTION. AND THERE'S A LAWSUIT IN SOUTH FLORIDA WHERE ALL OF THE COUNTIES ARE DRAGGED INTO EVERYTHING STOPS AND GETS BACK TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ARMY CORPS. THAT'S JUST THE BRINDISI . EVEN REACHED OUT TO PART OF OUR HIGHER MEDICAL CONTINGENTS TRYING TO HELP WITH THAT AS WELL. SO, WE ARE PUSHING IN EVERY DIRECTION WE CAN FOR ASSISTANCE. AGAIN, THERE IS A ROADBLOCK, WE LOOK OVER AND AROUND TO TRYING, ON THE OTHER SIDE.

>> APPRECIATE IT. >> I CANNOT SAY THE NUMBER CAUSE I GOT WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

>> I CAN TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF COMMENTS I GOT ONCE IT WAS COMPLETE. IT'S ONE OF THOSE TURMOILS THAT HE HAD TO GO THROUGH , WHEN YOU BUILD SOMETHING BIGGER AND NEW AND BETTER, IT'S A PAIN UNTIL IT'S DONE. THANK YOU VERY

MUCH. >> I APPRECIATE IT.

>> MUNICIPAL FINANCE. >> I KNOW YOU'RE ON A ROLL.

[26. Final Public Hearing to consider adoption of ZON-23-00029 (Airport Code Art. III and XII) (D. Selig)]

>> TIMES IS NUMBER 26, FINAL PLATFORM CONSIDERED ADOPTION ZONING 23 TYPE 00029 AIRPORT CODE.

>> SO IT'S RECOMMENDED TICKET --

>> FIRST MEETING OF MAY? >> I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO

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CONTINUE? PUBLIC HEARING ON LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES CONCERNING AIRPORT ? ANYBODY HERE SPEAKING ON THAT ?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS, NAME IS DEBBIE.

175 ON ORANGE PARK FLORIDA, 32065. I RECEIVED THIS LETTER, ON LOT 39 AT -- BY CAMPBELL BLANDING . ALSO ON LOT 47.

WHEN I RECEIVED THIS, IF YOU SEE THE LITTLE AIRPORT STRIPS THERE, AND THIS IS THE 1400 FOOT BUFFER ZONE. THE BUFFER ZONE IS WHERE THE PROPERTY WAS. EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT THE DIRECT REZONING OF THE PROPERTY. I STILL OBJECT TO IT.

I WROTE A LIST OF WHY I JUST LIVE THIS TOO LONG FOR THIS MEETING. I OPPOSED THE ZONING FOR ZONING 23 0029. AND IT'S COMPANION COMP 24 003 TRANSPORTATION ELEMENTS. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THIS GOES BACK TO THE PLANNING. I UNDERSTAND IT'S POSTPONED UNTIL THEN. IT GOES BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING AND GIVE THEM TIME TO WORK ON IT AND RESEARCH IT AND COME UP WITH OTHER OPTIONS THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE AND THE ZONING YOU'RE PROPOSING IS ACTUALLY THE STATUTE 330. IN 330, IT REQUIRES YOU HAVE AN AIRPORT COMMITTEE BOARD WHICH IS NOT EXISTING IN THIS COUNTY AS OF RIGHT NOW. ALSO, THE ONLY INPUT THAT IS INTACT IS THE THREE MINUTES HERE AT THE PODIUM. THERE'S NO TIME TO DISCUSS WORK OR -- THERE'S NO WORKSHOP OR ANYTHING I'M AWARE OF THE COMMITTEE THAT I'M AWARE OF AS OF RIGHT NOW, WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SET UP . CITIZENS HAVE THE INPUT, THIS DOES AFFECT A LOT OF AREA. ALTHOUGH WE DON'T HAVE A LOT HERE . HE STILL DOES AFFECT QUITE A FEW LANDOWNERS AND PROPERTIES AS WELL AS SOME OF THE ACTUAL -- FOLLOWING PLACES LIKE CELL PHONE TOWERS. I HAVE, ADJACENT TO MY PROPERTY IS PINNACLE TOWERS. THEY HAVE A TOWER OVER 100 FEET TALL IT FALLS WITHIN THE 35 FOOT LIMIT THAT YOU CAN BUILD. THERE WILL OVER THAT. IT WOULD AFFECT SALES TOWERS, ST.

JOHN'S WORT AMENDMENT FOR THE LAKE WATERWAYS, WETLANDS, WILDLIFE, FORESTRY, MILITARY, CAN'T LANDING, FCC, FAA , HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND HISTORICAL DISTRICTS. REALLY, BEFORE ANYTHING'S PASSED ON THIS, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU LET THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION DO THE DEAL.

AND COME UP WITH A BETTER OPTION THAN COPPING A FLORIDA STATUTE THAT ALREADY EXISTS. WHEN I TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IF WE ARE ALLOWED TO MAKE CHANGES TO THAT FOR OUR COUNTY.

THIS WOULD BE FOR THE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT OR SOMETHING. THEY GOT THE LANDMASS AND COUNTY LANDMASS, DATE -- YOU SET UP WORKSHOPS AND COMMITTEES OR SOMETHING WHERE THE ORDINARY CITIZEN CAN COME AND ACTUALLY DISCUSS THIS AND PLAN AND MAKE A -- AND IMPROVE IT. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I WOULD PLEASE CONSIDER IT. THANK YOU. AND ALSO, FOR THE COMMISSIONER , THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK . THAT TAKES A LOT OF WORK TO DO THAT. PEOPLE SHOULD APPRECIATE. ANYTIME ANY YEAR COUNTY DON'T WANT TO SEND IT ON TO KEYSTONE, WE WILL GLADLY TAKE IT.

>> MA'AM, COULD YOU STAY THERE FOR A SECOND. WE NEED TO SWEAR -- TAKE ON THE NEXT COUPLE OF ISSUES. IF YOU

SUBMITTED THE CARD, -- >> THAT'S MY HUSBAND.

>> ARE YOU GOING TO SPEAK? >> I CAN SPEAK FOR HIM IF IT'S

ALLOWED. HE OPPOSES AS WELL. >> RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. HE SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE WHOLE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HOPE

YOU GOT? >> I DO.

>> CLIFTON, THE MIC IS YOURS >> I'M NOT MUCH OF A SPEAKER.

I JUST DISAPPROVE OF IT BECAUSE IT'S PUTTING

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RESTRICTIONS ON MY PROPERTY. TO ME, IT DON'T MAKE SENSE, BECAUSE AIRPORTS GOING THIS WAY , MY PROPERTIES OVER HERE.

IT'S GOING AWAY FROM IT. THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. THANK

YOU. >> DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS? ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON ON 26 ? I'M SEEING NONE HERE. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO

CONTINUE THIS . >> MR. CHAIR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL MAY 20TH.

>> PERSON TO SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

[27. Public Hearing for the purpose of considering the entry into a Purchase and Sale Agreement for the purchase by the County of real property necessary for the Bonded Transportation Program, more particularly described as a portion of Tax Parcel No. 46-05-26-010224-000-00, and authorization for County Manager to execute all documents necessary to close the acquisition (C. Grimm/E. Dendor)]

ITEM NUMBER 27. PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PUBLIC'S CONSIDERING

ENTRY INTO THE COUNTY FOR -- >> WE ARE GOING TO BE MINUTES TRADING -- BEFORE THIS EVENING, ITEM IS FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVAL OF PURCHASES SALE AGREEMENT. WITH THE COOPERATIVE TO PURCHASE APPROXIMATELY 1817 SQUARE FEET.

OTHER PARTS LOCATED IN 209 AND AUTHORIZE ACCOUNTING MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY. THE PROPERTY IS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM IMPROVEMENTS ON PORTIONS OF PROJECT 3B, WHICH IS ON 209, 209B .

>> IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING. I WILL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING TO

DISCUSS ANYTHING YOU WISH. >> I WAS SEEN ON HEARING. CLOSE

PUBLIC HEARING. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE SALE AGREEMENT. FOR THE BTP . ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS ? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I.

[28. First Public Hearing to Consider ZON-24-0003, Proposal Addressing Land Clearing Disposal Conditional Use (E. Lehman, D. Selig)]

ITEM NUMBER 20 IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERING ZONING PROPOSED ADDRESSING LAND CLEARING DISPOSAL CONDITIONALLY USE.

'S BEHALF THE ACCOUNTING STAFF IS THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE.

THIS IS THE REQUEST TO CHANGE THE CONDITION USE, WHICH WE CALL LAND CLEARING DEBRIS FACILITY . WE ARE PROPOSING TO CHANGE THE NAME SLIGHTLY BY ADDING OFF-SITE TO THE TITLE OF THAT USE. WE TWEAKED A FEW OTHER CRITERIA OF THE USE. THE USE CURRENTLY IS ALLOWED MANY OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS. THE PURPOSE OF THIS USE IS TO BE A RECEIVING SITE THAT PROCESSES DEBRIS FROM OTHER SITE. THAT PROCESS IS USUALLY CONSIDERING AND CHIPPING , IT'S MORE OF AN INDUSTRIAL USE. DOES IT BELONG IN, OR AT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS OVER THE ASHES NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE ARE PROPOSING TO USE THE DISTRICTS. THESE DUTIES WERE APPROPRIATE FOR THESE. THESE ARE THE DISHES THAT'S CURRENTLY A LOT AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO REMOVE THESE. THAT IS MOST ALL OF OUR -- WE COULD TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE . WE RECOMMEND APPROVING ANY CHANGES .

>> FIRST QUESTION IS, WHY ADD THE WORD OFF-SITE?