PROCLAMATIONS/RESOLUTIONS

[21. Public Hearing on an Ordinance extending the current moratorium on applications filed on or after November 9, 2021, for land use amendments to the Clay County 2040 Comprehensive Plan or for rezoning of parcels that effectively increase the allowable residential densities within the Lake Asbury Master Plan Area (C. Grimm)]

SPEAK IN REGULAR PUBLIC COMMENT? WE WILL MOVE TO OUR 5:00 O'CLOCK TIME CERTAIN. WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER 21 THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE EXTENDED A MORATORIUM ON APPLICATIONS ON OR AFTER NOVEMBER 9, 2021 FOR LAND-USE AMENDMENTS OF CLAY COUNTY 2040 COPPERHEADS A PLAN OR FOR REZONING OF PARCELS THAT EFFECTIVELY INCREASE THE ALLOWABLE RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES WITHIN THE AS VERY MASTER PLAN.

COURTNEY? >> AS REQUESTED OR DIRECTED BY THE BOARD. A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO WE BROUGHT FORWARD A PROPOSED EXTENSION OF THE MORATORIUM THAT REFLECTS THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU JUST READ.

IT WOULD PROPOSE TO EXTEND IT TO NEXT DECEMBER OF 2024.

>> DID ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR COURTNEY?

>> BEFORE I OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING I WANTED TO REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT WE DO NOT RECEIVE COMMENTS VIA E-MAIL ON ITEMS THAT ARE MEETINGS, WE HAVE RECEIVED A LETTER AND A COUPLE OF E-MAILS AND CERTAINLY THE COMMISSIONERS, THAT IS AVAILABLE TO US TO READ AND WHEN THERE IS THIS PACIFIC ZONING CHANGE THEY CAN BE SENT TO THE ZONING DEPARTMENT TO BE ADDED TO THE PACKAGE. BUT WE HAD SPECIFICALLY SOMEONE ASKED TO HAVE IT READ INTO THE RECORD AND THE BOARD RULES DO NOT DO THAT. I JUST WANTED TO REMIND THE PUBLIC OF THAT. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

I DO NOT HAVE ANY CARDS ON THIS. COME ON UP.

>> I GOT HERE A LITTLE LATE, THERE WAS TRAFFIC, A BAD WRECK.

THANK YOU AS ALWAYS FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

I AM AUSTIN WITH THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION 6747 SOUTH POINTE PARKWAY JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. AS I SAID THANK YOU ALL FOR

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ALOWING ME TO SPEAK AND I HOPE YOU ALL HAD A GREAT THANKSGIVING. THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA BUILDERS ASSOCIATION AS OPPOSED TO EXTENDING THE MORATORIUM IN LAKE ASBURY. THE DISCUSSION OF MORATORIUM WAS CENTERED AROUND A ONE-YEAR EXTENSION SO INFRASTRUCTURE COULD CATCH UP WHICH WAS MET WITH LITTLE OPPOSITION FROM THE BUILDER AND DEVELOPER COMMUNITY. WE ARE NOW ENTERING INTO A POTENTIAL THIRD YEAR OF THE MORATORIUM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS TYPICALLY TAKE ONE YEAR TO APPROVE BEFORE THE PERMITS START DEVELOPMENT BEGAN. IF YOU ENDED THE MORATORIUM TODAY THE SOONEST YOU WOULD SEE NEW HOMES CONSTRUCTED WILL BE THREE - 4 YEARS. BY EXTENDING THE MORATORIUM WERE CREATING A BACKLOG OF PROJECTS FOR 2 - 3 YEARS WHICH DRASTICALLY AFFECTS INVENTORY AND ENTERING HOUSING AUTHORITY WHICH MORTGAGE RATES HAVE BEEN MORE OF AN ISSUE.

FURTHER A MORATORIUM AFFECTS SMALL LOCAL LAND OWNERS WHO LIKELY HAVE BEEN LONGTIME COUNTY RESIDENTS.

LARGE DEVELOPERS HAVE THE ABILITY TO MEET THE RIGOROUS REQUIREMENTS RELATING TO OPEN SPACE, COMMERCIAL AND OTHER ZONING WITHIN LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN.

HOWEVER, LANDOWNERS WITH FIVE, 10 OR 20 ACRES TRYING TO MONETIZE THEIR PROPERTY INCREASE THE TAX BASE AND HELP THE COUNTY GROW INTELLIGENTLY AND ARE SEVERELY HAMPERED BY THE MORATORIUM. THE MORATORIUM TAKES THE POWER OUT OF THE COMMISSIONERS HANDS AND THE RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY. WE JUST ASK THAT THE COMMISSION ALLOWS THE MARKET, THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS IN YOU AS ELECTED OFFICIALS TO PROVIDE INPUT AND DECIDE ON THE NEW PROJECTS IN THE COUNTY ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS, NOT A BLANKET MORATORIUM. AS ALWAYS OUR ASSOCIATION AND ITS MEMBERS THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO CLAY COUNTY AND ASSISTANCE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU IF YOU COULD FILL OUT A CARD BEFORE YOU LEAVE.

ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING THAT I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR

DISCUSSION AND FOR A MOTION. >> I WILL START.

>> AS THE COMMISSIONER FOR DISTRICT FIVE WHERE AS WE SPOKE THIS MORNING THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF GROWTH, THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF GROWTH IS HAPPENING IN OUR COUNTY RIGHT NOW.

I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE SCRIBBLE ON MY PAPER, BEAR WITH ME HERE. AS FAR AS WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED WE ARE FACED WITH CONSTANT REMINDERS EVERY TIME WE SEE THE TREES COMING DOWN AND EVERY TIME WE SEE MORE BUILDINGS GOING UP, MORE HOMES GOING UP, THERE IS A MORATORIUM THAT DOES NOTHING TO KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING.

THOSE ARE THE DEVELOPMENTS WHERE THEY DO NOT HAVE TO COME TO US AND I HEAR THAT AS SOMETHING I HEAR EVERY DAY, NO THEY DO NOT HAVE TO COME TO YOU, YOU DO NOT HAVE A SAY SO IN THAT.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT NUMBER IS NOW, HOW MANY HOMES ARE STILL ALREADY APPROVED THAT CAN GO INTO THE AREA.

HEATHER, HOPEFULLY YOU REMEMBER, 24000 ALREADY APPROVED? SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT IS THE TOTAL THAT CAN GO BEFORE 2040. THAT IS THE NUMBER.

AGAIN, HUGE NUMBER. AS FAR AS YOU KNOW I LIVE IN THE AREA AND THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT ARE THE LARGE LANDOWNERS IN THE AREA HAVE ALREADY SOLD AND THERE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND WILL BEGIN SOON IF NOT IF THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY.

IN OUR AREA WE HAVE NO FIRE STATION WITHIN 5 MILES STILL TO THIS DAY. THINGS HAVE NOT CHANGED SINCE THE FIRST YEAR THAT THIS WAS VOTED ON AS FAR AS THE INFRASTRUCTURE. WERE STILL WAITING ON THE ROADS AND THE PLANS ARE THERE IN THEIR COMING BUT THEY'RE NOT THERE YET. COMMISSIONER SPOKE ABOUT THE TRAFFIC EVERY SINGLE DAY, IT'S NOT EVEN AFTER WORK IT WAS WHEN I WAS COMING HERE TODAY TRAFFIC WAS ALREADY BACKED UP ALL THE WAY DOWN 17, NORTH ON 17 IF YOU'RE COMING SOUTH ON 17 I SHOULD SAY. THIS IS NOT CHANGING IT IS GETTING MORE DANGEROUS EVERY DAY, THE PEOPLE MOVING IN THE AREA. WE ARE NOT ASKING TO STOP AUTHORITY BEEN APPROVED. I'M ASKING TO STOP EVEN IF IT'S ONE MORE HOME THAT COULD COME IN THIS AREA.

AT THIS POINT WE NEED TO GIVE IT A HALT THAT IS OUR RIGHT AS

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LEADERS AND OUR RIGHT TO POSIT. IN 2025, HOPEFULLY THE ROADS WILL BE THERE AND I THOUGHT THAT IS WHEN IT WAS GOING TO BE FINISHED BUT NOW I'M HEARING THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE MONEY SPENT BY THEN. I'M HOPEFUL THEY WILL BE DONE AT THAT TIME. LACK OF SUPPLY, THAT IS SAYING QUITE A BIT THERE. YOU CAN GO ALL THE WAY DOWN SANDRIDGE AND YOU CAN SHOP IN EVERY SICKLE DEVELOPMENT AND THERE'S PLENTY TO PICK FROM. THERE'S PLENTY TO PICK FROM A 209 ON RUSSELL ROAD. WITH MORE AND MORE DEVELOPMENT COMING ON AND AGAIN, WE HAVE A TWO LANE ROAD.

A TWO LANE ROAD THAT OUR KIDS ARE HAVING TO TRAVEL EVERY SINGLE DAY AND I PRAY TO GOD THAT THEY DO NOT GET HIT AND PEOPLE COMING OUT OF NEW SUBDIVISIONS WITHOUT STOPPING AT THE STOP SIGN. WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THIS AND CONTINUE TO BE READY TO TAKE THE STAND.

I UNDERSTAND IT IS DIFFICULT AND AS FAR AS WORKING AGAINST THE DEVELOPERS I DON'T FEEL THAT WAY.

I TALKED TO THE DEVELOPERS EVERY WEEK AND I'M ALWAYS THERE TO HELP AND ALWAYS THERE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THIS UNDER BEST POSSIBILITIES AND WHAT THINGS THEY CAN DO FOR OUR AREA TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY HAPPIER AND GIVE THEM BETTER IDEAS.

I'M READY FOR THAT BUT AGAIN WE HAVE ENOUGH APPROVED ALREADY.

LET'S SEE. I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED OR SEEN E-MAILS AND LETTERS THAT SAY WHAT WERE DOING IS ILLEGAL.

FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY THAT WE RESPECT AND LISTEN TO DAILY, IS

THAT TRUE? >> NO I DO NOT THINK THE MORATORIUM WERE AS EXTENDED IS ILLEGAL.

WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS ON THE BOARD AS PART OF THIS POLICY AND PROCEDURE THAT YOU PUT INTO PLACE AS INDICATED THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT, THE REASON FOR HIS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU NEEDED TO CATCH UP ON CA ON THE REASONR THAT IS A PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY AND EVERYONE KNOWS WERE WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY TO UPDATER, PLAN AND REDUCE REGULATIONS WITH WTI ON THE BOARD AND WERE STILL WORKING ON THOSE AND WE HOPE TO HAVE THOSE DONE BY NEXT YEAR. ADDITIONALLY I WILL THROW OUT AND I BELIEVE THE MORATORIUM DOES NOT TAKE AWAY ANYTHING FROM ANY LAND OWNER, THEY ALREADY HAVE AND KEEP ALL THE VESTED RATES THAT THEY HAVE. THAT WAS IMPORTANT.

>> AT THIS POINT IF THEY CAN GET THREE HOUSES AN ACRE, THIS WOULD BE TO STOP THEM FROM GOING ABOUT THAT IF THAT IS WHAT THE ZONING IS FOR THAT POINT. FOR THAT AREA.

>> THE PURPOSES TO NOT ALLOW INCREASED DENSITY WHICH WAS IN ORDER TO HELP FACILITATE THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

>> THAT'S ALL I HAD. >> I WOULD ASK FOR THE BOARD TO PLEASE APPROVE THE MORATORIUM EXTENSION.

>> IS THAT EMOTION? >> THAT IS EMOTION.

>> I CAN MAKE THE MOTION, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WANTS TO

SECOND OR OTHER DISCUSSION. >> I WILL SECOND.

I WILL SECOND A MOTION. I ALSO HAVE A COMMENT.

THE BOND OF TRANSPORTATION PLAN WAS PREDICATED ON THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN. , HASN'T DEVELOPED A PLAN 209 WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THREE LANES AND IT'S NOT, IT IS TO LANES.

WERE TAKING A VERY CAUTIOUS LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT AND WERE NOT CUTTING BACK FROM ANYTHING THAT WAS IN THE PLAN.

IT WAS IN ADDITION TO THE PLAN THE INCREASED DENSITY IS WHAT WERE SIDELINING SO TO SPEAK FOR TWO YEARS AND NOW POSSIBLY THREE. SO ONCE AGAIN IF YOU HAD A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN YOU WANTED TO DEVELOP IT YOU CAN DEVELOP IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PLAN BUT YOU CANNOT INCREASE THE DENSITY,

THAT IS ALREADY ALLOWABLE. >> OTHER COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS?

>> COMMISSIONER. >> MADAM CHAIR THANK YOU.

I VOTE AGAINST THE MORATORIUM FIRST YEAR BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE IT DOING MUCH IN TERMS OF HOLDING BACK ANY KIND OF

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DEVELOPMENT IN HALTING ANYBODY FROM INCREASING THE DENSITY OF THEIR ZONING ON A PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY BUT NOT STOPPING BUILDING IF THEY WERE ALREADY IN THE WORKS AND HAVE PERMITS IN 1700 PERMITS SOMETHING FOR THIS YEAR.

BUT THEN WE LOOKED AND I VOTED FOR THE LAST TIME BECAUSE INFRASTRUCTURE DID NOT COME ALONG AS FAST AS EVERYBODY THOUGHT IT WAS. FOR WHATEVER REASON WE HAD SUPPLY CHAIN PROBLEMS AND ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT SITUATIONS AND IT TOOK LONGER, CLEARANCES AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

SO I ASKED FOR A LOOK AT THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER WHICH CALLS FOR RESIDENTIAL UNITS. RIGHT NOW WERE AT 14000.

IF WE WOULD BUILD OUT ALL THE PROPERTY THAT IS OWNED OR WOULD BE ZONED ACCORDING TO WHERE IT'S LOCATED IN IF IT'S LOCATED IN THE THREE UNITS PER ACRE WILL HAVE YOU.

WE WOULD END UP WITH 18000 MORE. OBVIOUSLY FUTURE 24000 AND SUBTRACTED 14000 THE CURRENT NUMBER WOULD BE 10000 AND RIGHT NOW WERE ON TRACK TO ADD 18000. THAT'S AT THE DENSITY THE STAIR NOW TO INCREASE THE DENSITY AND THE NUMBER WOULD GO WELL.

THE BOTTOM LINE THAT SHOWS YOU THAT WE ARE TRENDING HEAVY IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF HOMES THAT ARE ADDED TO THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN. WE KNOW INFRASTRUCTURE WISE WERE GETTING CLOSER AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL PUT THE SHOVELS IN THE GROUND AND START MOVING. EVEN FEELING THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPERS COMING IN THAT WANT TO BUILD ADDITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT, IT'S REALLY BUILDING OFF OF WATKINS ROAD. 6 - 700 HOMES.

IT'S 1200, 1300 CARS A DAY COMING OUT OF THE AREA GOING TO 209. NEITHER NORTHBOUND OR SOUTHBOUND AND THEY WANT TO HAVE ONE LINCHPIN ENTRY AT 209B AND THE OTHER ONE AT WATKINS. AND THOSE PEOPLE WILL TAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN INTO TWO OR 90 OTHER PEOPLE WILL TAKE A LEFT HAND AT 209 AND WITH THE TRAFFICKER EITHER EVEN IF WE DO GET INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE IT IS GOING TO BE BUSY AND WE KNOW% QUITE HONESTLY A POSSIBILITY OF LEGAL ACTION BY THE DEVELOPER, THE EARLY PUT THAT ON THE TABLE.

IT IS A DIFFICULT DECISION, NOT AN EASY ONE.

BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT, HERE IS THE THING, THEY CAN BUILD WITHOUT HER PERMISSION BECAUSE IT WAS EARLY ESTABLISHED THAT ZONING WAS ESTABLISHED BACK IN 2006 WHEN THE MASTER PLAN WAS PUT INTO EFFECT, WE CAN'T STOP THEM, WE CAN GUIDE THEM AND CONTROL THEM AND TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN GET ADDITIONAL FUNDS OUT OF THEM TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THE ROADS BUT TALK TO ANYBODY THAT HAS TO DRIVE THROUGH THEIR AT VARIOUS RUSH-HOUR TIMES AND THEN A COURSE ON THE CORNER OF SANDRIDGE AND RUSSELL ROAD ALREADY ZONED COMMERCIAL THERE, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE ANYBODY IDEAS BUT THE LIVE LOCAL ACTIVITY OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS OWNED COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL THEY CAN GO WHEN THEY'RE PUT UP APARTMENTS WITHOUT EVEN TALKING TO US.

HOW MANY MORE THEY PUT 370 PARKING UNITS IN THE ALL DUMPING OUT INTO THE SAME AREA AND WERE NOT READY FOR THEM.

I SAID I WOULD GIVE IT THE YEAR AND THEN DECIDE ON WHAT I WANTED TO DO FOR THIS YEAR END WE HAVEN'T REALLY MOVED TOO MUCH FORWARD IN TERMS OF GETTING PEOPLE THROUGH WITH TRAFFIC.

IT IS COMING CLOSER, YOU WILL HEAR US DISCUSS HOW TO FUND 7.7 MILLION FOR ROUNDABOUT AND 209 INVITED THE 209B INTERSECTION. THAT IS COMING CLOSER BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.

I WILL SUPPORT THE MORATORIUM AND I WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE MY MIND NEXT YEAR BECAUSE I WON'T BE HERE.

BUT I WILL BE INTERESTED CERTAINLY TO SEE HOW THE BOARD HANDLES. AT THIS POINT ALTHOUGH I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SAY WE CAN TURN THAT LOOSE TO DEVELOPERS I JUST CAN'T SEE THIS POINT TIME HOW WE WOULD HANDLE THAT TRAFFIC STUDY OR NO TRAFFIC STUDY, THE LOGIC WOULD TELL YOU THIS WOULD

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BE A PROBLEM IF WE DON'T HOLD DOWN THE DEVELOPMENT AND GET THE

INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE. >> ANY OTHERS?

>> I HAVE SUPPORTED IT FROM DAY ONE AND I'M SYMPATHETIC TO THOSE IN THE LAKE ASBURY AREA AND I'M SYMPATHETIC TO PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS RIGHTS AND CERTAINLY COMMISSIONER USED TO SAY WITH THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN, IF WE FOLLOW THE PLAN AND DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING, IF WE JUST FOLLOW THE PLAN IT ALL WORKS.

BUT TO COMMISSIONER EDITORS POINT IT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK WE DON'T ALWAYS KEEP UP WITH IT, IT IS FUNNY BECAUSE ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE GOT TODAY THEY ATTACHED A MAP AND IT'S FROM 2017, A LONG TIME AGO, PRE-COVID, PRE-ALL OF THIS STUFF AND IT'S A 2040 TRAFFIC CIRCULATION MAP.

IT WOULD BE INTERESTING NEXT YEAR TO SEE WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE WE HAVE TO UPDATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

BUT IT TALKS ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE FOUR LANES AND WE TALK THIS MORNING WHEN THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THREE LANES AND THIS PLAN FROM 2017 EVEN INDICATES GOING WEST AT A KEYSTONE HEIGHTS ON SAINT ROAD 100 WHICH WOULD BE ATROCIOUS TO US. BUT AT ANY RATE IT'S QUITE IRONIC WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT WAS PERCEIVED AND WHEN THEY DID THE UPDATE 10 YEARS AGO, THIS IS PROBABLY WORKED ON BEFORE THAT FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHAT THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION WAS TO LOOK LIKE. CLEARLY WE KNOW THERE'S NOT A STRUCTURE IN PLACE AND I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT CAME OUT OF THIS MORNING'S WORKSHOP THAT IS POIGNANT IN MY SUPPORT OF CONTINUING THE MORATORIUM IS THE FACT THAT WE THE COUNTY WERE INSTRUCTED IN THE PAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION TO ADDRESS SEPTIC TANKS WITHIN THE COUNTY. IT'S A DELICATE RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE WE DON'T OWN THE UTILITY SO WE HAVE TO WORK WITH CCU WAY, DENNIS IS HERE THIS AFTERNOON THE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS LIAISON BETWEEN CCU WAY WE APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP, JEREMY JOHNSON WAS HERE THIS MORNING WE THE COMMISSION ARE RESPONSIBLE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO ADDRESS SEPTIC TANKS IN THE COUNTY AND WE ARE NOT PREPARED TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT JUST PAST THIS LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A DRAFT PLAN DONE BY FEBRUARY. I'M ALSO GOING TO SUPPORT EXTENDING THE MORATORIUM BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET THE PLAN DONE BEFORE WE CAN MORE ANSWERS AND THAT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT INFRASTRUCTURE THAN ROADS. A LOT OF TIME WE TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE ONLY MEANING ROADS BUT REALLY IF THERE'S OTHER THINGS WE HAVE A STORMWATER STUDY COMING BACK SOON TO ADDRESS, I'M SURE IN THE AREA WE ARE FLOODING ON SOME OF THE CREEKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO INFRASTRUCTURE AND IT'S NOT PAIRED RIGHT NOW TO MOVE AND COMMISSIONER I THINK HE SAID LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE EXTENDING THE MORATORIUM THAT IN THE EVENT THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION CAME TO LIGHT THAT WE WOULD BE WILLING TO ADDRESS THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HEARD FROM A RESIDENT OF LAKE ASBURY IN ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS I DON'T THINK IT WAS AT THE LAST MEETING I THINK IT WAS THE ONE PRIOR TALKING ABOUT THE DESIRE TO HAVE MORE MEDICAL DOCTORS IN THOSE KINDS OF FACILITIES WITHIN THE LAKE ASBURY AREA AND WE HEARD ABOUT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

CERTAINLY THOSE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE BRINGING THOSE AND THOSE ARE GOOD FOR THE CITIZENS OF LAKE ASBURY WE ARE WILLING TO MAYBE MOVE ON THAT BUT I DON'T SEE US CHANGING ANYONE'S DENSITY TO COMMERCIAL FOR THAT. THE ONLY THING THAT I SEE HAPPENING THAT WE CANNOT CONTROL IS THE LIVE LOCAL.

AS FAR AS COMMERCIAL AND LAKE ASBURY, WE DEFINITELY WANT THE COMMERCIAL TO COME IN AND A LOT OF COMMERCIAL HAS SAID THEY WANT THE HOUSES TO CONTINUE TO COME IN AND THEY WILL BE THERE.

THEY DEFINITELY TALK IN A GROCERY STORE NOW, IT IS STARTING TO HAPPEN. THAT IS GOOD.

>> STYLE JUST FOR CLARITY WHEN COURTNEY AND I WERE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION YESTERDAY, IT BOILED DOWN TO TWO THINGS, ONE INCREASING DENSITY. WHICH I LEARNED YESTERDAY THAT WE MAXED OUT DENSITY ANYWAY. MY NEXT QUESTION WAS PIVOTING

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AROUND WHETHER THE LAND USE CHANGES OR THE ZONING CHANGES WOULD NEED TO COME FORWARD. MY CONCERN ANYTIME I LOOK AT THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WHEN I HAD TO LOOK AT THE MORATORIUM.

HOW MUCH CAN WE AFFECT AS A COMMCOMMISSION WHAT DOES THIS RE FROM OUR CONTROL. IF I AM UNDERSTANDING THIS ISSUE CORRECTLY IT TURNS ON DENSITY AND ZONING CHANGES IN BOTH OF THOSE DECISIONS HAVE TO COME TO THE BOARD ANYWAY.

MORATORIUM I WANTED TO KNOW DEFINITIVELY WHAT DOES THE MORATORIUM AFFECT, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF IT IF DECISIONS LIKE THIS HAVE TO COME TO THE COMMISSION AND IF WE HAVE TO DECIDE IN MY DISTRICT IT WAS THE ZONING UC 10 TUC 16 BECAUSE THERE WAS AT A UC 12F THAT HAD TO COME TO US AND IF WE ARE ESSENTIALLY THE ARBITERS AND HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION IN THE ANSWER I KEPT GETTING, IT PREVENTS US FROM HAVING TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A COMPATIBILITY ARGUMENT AND I GUESS IF THE SOLUTION IS THAT WE HAVE TOGETHER INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE THEN I THINK IN ORDER FOR ME TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH MAKING A DECISION CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE BOARD.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE AN ACTION PLAN THAT ADDRESSES THIS CONCERN BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SEPTIC TO SEWER BEING INFRASTRUCTURE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT 209, THE ROUNDABOUT. BUT I DON'T KNOW, WE'RE HOPING 2025 IS A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM BUT THAT MEANS THIS TIME NEXT YEAR WERE MAKING ANOTHER DECISION ABOUT EXTENDING THE MORATORIUM AND THAT'LL BE FOUR CONSECUTIVE YEARS OF DOING SO AND IT IS BECOMING MORE PERFUNCTORY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION THAT WE CAN NEVER PREDICT WILL TAKE PLACE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT GIVES ME THE MOST HEARTBURN OF MAKING THIS DECISION YEAR-OVER-YEAR AND I DON'T KNOW.

I KNOW WHAT I'M ASKING IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE NONE OF US HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL. THE INFORMATION THAT IS COME TO US OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR SPECIFIC TO THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN HAS NOT MADE THIS DECISION ANY CLEARER AS IT RELATES TO WHAT SOLUTIONS ARE COMING INTO PLACE AND WHEN THAT TAKES PLACE AS WELL. I STRUGGLE VERY MUCH WITH IMPOSING THE MORATORIUM FOR ANOTHER YEAR, I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING THAT THIS DECISION SOLVES A PROBLEM.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP IN HEATHER'S PRESENTATION TO US THAT THE NUMBER OF PERMITS I CAME BACK OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS OF THE MORATORIUM HAS NOT CHANGED.

HE REMAINED THE SAME FIGURE THAT 600 OR 800 HOUSE NUMBER.

THE MORATORIUM DID NOT CHANGE THAT LIFTING IT IS WHAT COURTNEY WAS TELLING ME THAT COULD POTENTIALLY INCREASE THE NUMBER OF REQUEST THAT WE GET BUT IT BECOMES A CIRCULAR ARGUMENT IS A REQUEST THAT COMES BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND WE STILL HAVE TO DECIDE ON IT. I DON'T KNOW THAT I GOT A PERSUASIVE ANSWER ON HOW TO SOLVE THIS BECAUSE THE MORATORIUM KICKS THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND AM LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE.

IT GIVES ME HEARTBURN I DON'T LIKE DOING THINGS JUST TO CHECK THE BOX I FEEL LIKE LAST YEAR WE GOT SOME ANSWERS PENDING THAT THIS YEAR THOSE ANSWERS HAVE COME BACK AND WERE NO CLOSER TO IDENTIFYING HOW WE GET THIS RIGHT.

FOR ME THAT IS PROBLEMATIC. >> WE STARTED CONSTRUCTION ON THE BONDED ROADS AND THERE'S ONLY A LITTLE BIT LEFT IN LAKE

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ASBURY THAT HASN'T STARTED. >> I KNOW WE DIDN'T GET CLARITY WHEN WE LEFT THE LAST MEETING WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE REPORT ON THE NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENT.

YOU FEEL LIKE WHERE WE ARE WITH THE REMAINING UNITS THAT WERE

OVER THE LAMP? >> THE BOARD INDICATED.

>> HEATHER'S REPORT INDICATED 24492 IS WHAT IT PROVIDED FOR IN THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS WE ARE AT 14000 IN CHANGE I DON'T HAVE IT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF ME.

>> 14478. >> SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THE BASE DENSITY ALLOWS FOR 180843 UNITS.

>> IF WE ALLOW THOSE BASICALLY IF WE ALLOW THOSE TO BE BILLED OUT AT THAT RATE WHATEVER THAT RATE IS AT THE DENSITY THEY ARE TODAY IT WOULD BE 18000 UNITS. TO ME MY LIMITED MATH 18 PLUS 14

IS 32000. >> I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING BECAUSE I THOUGHT WHEN SHE SAID IT SHE TOLD US SOME OF THE DENSITY WAS COMMERCIAL SUM WAS NOT BUILDABLE.

THAT IS WHERE I WAS UNSURE WHAT THE ACTUAL NUMBER WAS IN ANOTHER WAS A QUESTION DID THE 14748 REMAINING, WHERE DID THEY DRAW THE LINE WERE THOSE PERMITS HAD BEEN ISSUED, DO YOU RECALL THAT

PART OF THE CONVERSATION. >> HEATHER IS COMING UP SHE WILL EXPLAIN THAT HERSELF. IF YOU REMEMBER WE STARTED THIS AND I ASKED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I SAW AN ARTICLE TALKING ABOUT KEY WEST AND HOW THEY HAD THE RATE OF GROWTH ORDINANCE WHICH CONTROLLED THE NUMBER OF HOMES SO THEY WOULD GET TO THE PAST YEAR 2023 WITH A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF HOMES SO THEY LIMITED THE NUMBER OF PERMITS DURING THE COURSE OF EACH YEAR LEADING UP TO THAT WHICH OF COURSE I THINK UNFAIRLY IN TERMS OF THE MARKET VALUE OF THE PROPERTIES IN THE LAST THAT CAME ON BOARD WERE THE MORE THAT CAME ON BOARD THE MORE VALUABLE AT THE END WOULD BE BECAUSE THE LIMITED NUMBER OF PARCELS.

I'M NOT RECOMMENDING THAT BUT AT THE SAME TIME THEY KEPT AN EYE ON THE TOTAL NUMBER OF HOMES AND RESIDENTS THAT NEEDED TO BE BUILT AND THOSE WHO DECIDED ON THE 24 24000 LIMITING THOSE HOMS IN THE AREA TO A CERTAIN NUMBER. WE STILL HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT WHAT HEATHER MAY CORRECTLY DID WE FIGURE OUT HOW THEY ARRIVED

AT THAT NUMBER. >> THE 24492.

>> I WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK APPEAR TO EXPLAIN THE.

>> LET ME CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS.

THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN LAKE ASBURY IS JUST UNDER 14000. THE 14748 NUMBER THAT YOU MENTIONED ARE THE AMOUNT OF UNITS THAT WE HAVE LEFT BEFORE WE MEET OUR 24490 BEFORE 2040. LIKE YOU SAID WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY WITH THE DENSITY THAT IS ALLOWED NOW IS 18000, WE ALREADY BACKED OUT THE COMMERCIAL, YOU SAID THAT INCLUDE COMMERCIAL BUT WE ALREADY BACKED UP THE COMMERCIAL SO THAT WOULD NOT INCLUDE THAT. INTO ACCOUNT SOME OF THE WETLANDS BUT I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD BE MARGINAL SO WOULDN'T BE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE BACKED UP FOR THAT.

TO STELLA'S POINT IF WE CONTINUE WHAT WE HAVE NOW IN ITS BILL

THAT WOULD REVEAL THE 748. >> DO WE KNOW THE 13895, WHERE DOES THAT DRAW THE LINE WHERE ARE WE IN THAT CYCLE WHAT DOES THAT INCLUDE DOES IT INCLUDE EVERYTHING THAT WAS BROUGHT TO DRC UP UNTIL THE DAY THAT YOU GOT THE INFORMATION AND BUILDING PERMITS ISSUED WHERE ARE THEY IN THE PROCESS.

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>> THAT DOES NOT JUST ACCOUNT FOR THE BUILDING PERMITS IT GOES FURTHER BACK IN WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED SO IT DOES INCLUDE THINGS THAT WE WILL START FOR THE BUILDING PERMIT IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THAT DOES INCLUDE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BACK OF WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED.

>> ANYTHING I WENT TO DRC PRIOR TO OCTOBER WILL.

>> NOT JUST WHAT YOU DO FOR CAME AND WENT APPROVED A DRC IT'S

INCLUDED IN THE 1389 13895. >> SHE WAS NOT MOVING.

>> SHE WAS TRYING TO DUCK OUT OF IT CA.

>> WHEN THIS WAS DONE IN TWO, FOUR, FIVE, SIX IT WAS ENTITLEDE 24000. WHEN IT WAS TRANSFERRED TO THE STATE THERE WAS A WINDOW OF 2015 AND THEY PUT A CAP OF 5000 ON AT THE TOP. WHEN THEY DID THE COMP PLAN THE EXPANDED THE NUMBER BASED ON WHAT WAS PREDICTED TO THE 21000 FIGURE THAT WE HAD IN THE 2025 COMP PLAN.

WHEN SARATOGA SPRINGS WAS ABANDONED BECAUSE HIS NUMBER DID NOT INCLUDE DRI'S THAT ADDED ANOTHER 3000 UNITS TO IT.

THAT IS A CAP THROUGH 2040 THAT IS NOT THE END OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF LAKE ASBURY THERE WILL BE FURTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT IS JUST BASED ON THE POPULATION PREDICTION THAT WE HAVE IN THE LAKE ASBURY AREA THROUGH 2040. WHEN WE GET THE NUMBERS FOR 2050 WE WILL BE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY EXPANDING THAT IF WE NEED TO.

ÚRIGHT NOW WE KNOW IT'S BEEN BUILT AT LESS DENSITY AND WHAT IT COULD ULTIMATELY BE. THERE WILL BE MORE UNITS THAT IS THE CAP THAT WE HAVE AT THIS TIME FOR 2040.

>> THE REAL QUESTION WHEN DID THEY MOVE OFF A FIVE YEAR WHEN DID THEY GO FROM 20, 225-29-2040.

>> THEY WENT FROM 15 - 25 AND WILL BE UPDATED TO 25 BACK IN 18 WHICH WE DO EVERY SEVEN YEARS INSTEAD OF TAKING IT TO 35 WE JUST TOOK IT TO 40 BECAUSE WE HAD THE NUMBER SEVEN-POINT.

>> IS TRYING TO GET A GAUGE I WAS AND TRY TO BE FACETIOUS I WAS TRYING TO GET A GAUGE ON HOW OFTEN THAT IS REVIEWED AND WHEN THE CAP CAN BE INCREASED OR DECREASED.

>> WE LOOK AT IT EVERY SEVEN YEARS.

>> WHEN IS THAT DUE. >> NEXT YEAR, STARTING THE

PROCESS NOW. >> MADAM CHAIR IF I COULD AS WE SIT HERE AND TOSS NUMBERS OUT LEFT AND RIGHT, THE BOTTOM LINE IF YOU WERE TO BE LOGICAL ABOUT IT WE HAVE TOO MANY CARS ON THE ROADS WOULD NOT ENOUGH CAPACITY IN ANY DAY OF THE WEEK YOU CAN DRIVE OUT THERE THAT IS A PROBLEM AND I LOVE AUSTIN IN THE LENDERS AND WE NEED THE INDUSTRY TO BE HEALTHY BECAUSE IT'S A MAJOR CONTRIBUTOR TO ECONOMICS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE CANNOT DAMAGE OF THE PART OF ECONOMICS BY DISCOURAGING PEOPLE FROM MOVING INTO THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO SIT ON 17 EVERY AFTERNOON AT 430 AND 5:00 O'CLOCK AND HAVE THE TRAFFIC STRETCHED BECAUSE NOBODY CAN GET THROUGH ON 209 TO GET PAST THE RACETRACK AND THEN GET PAST THE CSX AND GET PAST THE GUY TURNING LEFT INTO A NINE INTO A DRIVEWAY THERE, THAT'S HOW THE TRAFFIC STARTS PEOPLE AT THE RAILROAD TRACK BUILDING MINISTERS FROM THE MIDDLE TO A NINE IN THE RACETRACK.

THEY WANTED TO COLLECT INTEREST. IN TRAFFIC BUILT ON 17.

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BY ADDING ADDITIONAL HOMES FIXING YEAR OR TWO YEARS TO ADD ADDITIONAL IT'S NOT THE LIGHTSPEED TIME DRUNK I HAVE HAD ALL KIND OF SOLUTIONS AND PEOPLE SEEM TO BE IT'S A NUMBER OF CARS WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD WAY TO CLEAR THROUGH YET.

>> IS THE GRIDLOCK. >> INTERESTINGLY I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM ANY I DON'T KNOW IF THE REST OF YOU HAVE BUT I'VE NOT HEARD FROM MANY INDIVIDUAL LANDOWNERS AND NOT COMMISSIONER BURKE SAID AND WE SURMISE THAT I GOT AN E-MAIL FROM A DEVELOPER I WILL NOT NAME THE PERSON THAT SAID THAT THE BIG DEVELOPERS ARE NOT AFFECTED BY THIS. THEY ARE IN PLACE.

THEIR ARGUMENT THAT THIS WILL AFFECT SMALLER LANDOWNERS BUT I'M HEARD FROM THOSE PEOPLE SO I CAN TAKE YOUR WORD AND THIS DOESN'T COST ANY MONEY TO SUPPORT AND I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. IN ADDITION TO THAT TO ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC DOT STARTED WIDENING OF 17 AND THEY DECIDE TO SISTER WITH THE BLACK CREEK RIDGE, THAT'S NOT HELPING THE SITUATION DOWN TO ONE LANE. I DROVE THERE YESTERDAY AND THEY HAD THE SIGNS GOING THE WRONG WAY.

>> ONE MORE THING IF I CAN STRESS I'M NOT LOOKING TO CHANGE YOUR MIND BUT EXPLAIN HOW I SEE IT.

BOTTOM LINE IF WE DON'T PASS THE MORATORIUM AND PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO GET THE APPLICATIONS AND IN THE PROCESS.

PEOPLE WORK AND TRY TO GET INTO THE SYSTEM AND THEN THEY FLOW THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND THEN THEY COME TO US AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE AN OPTION TO WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO REALLY THINK IT'S BETTER TO TELL EVERYBODY AT THE FRONT DOOR NO RATHER THAN HAVE THEM SIT DOWN TO WATCH TV BEFORE YOU SAY NO.

THE BOARD CAN REPEAL AT ANY TIME IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO BRING THAT IT WILL AND WE NEED TO DO THAT. I DON'T SEE IT TO BE IN PLACE FOR A YEAR AS WE VERONICA CONDITIONS HAPPEN IN THIS DISCUSSION. AND WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE AND I DON'T KNOW WHO COULD EXPLAIN THE RESULTS OF THAT WE COMPLIED WITH THE FLORIDA STATUTE AND BASICALLY DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE AREN'T CHANGING THE ZONING JUST NOT ALLOWING ADDITIONAL DENSITY THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY IMPACT TO THE BUSINESSES WITH THIS PRODUCT. THE SUMMARY IS ONE EXPLAIN IT

BETTER THAN THE. >> I THINK IT'S EXACTLY IT IF YOUR BUSINESS AND HAVE YOUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WITHIN LAKE ASBURY YOU HAVE THE VESTED RIGHT AND IT DOES NOT IMPACT TO OTHERS BUSINESS WITH COMMERCIAL OR BUSINESS IS A DEVELOPER THAT OWNS THE LAND AND HAS ONLY IT DOES NOT IMPACT YOU BECAUSE YOU

HAVE YOUR INVESTMENT RATES. >> AN ECONOMIC PLAN TO REPORT YOU WITH EMOTION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[22. Public Hearing on Ordinance and Resolution to Amend the Capital Improvement Plan and Other Budget Adjustments (R. Kantor)]

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IN YOUR POST, MOTION CARRIED 5-0.

ITEM NUMBER 22 WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ONE LETTER AT A TIME THE FIRST ONE IS A PUBLIC HEARING SHE'S TO ORDINANCE TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT IN THE CLAY COUNTY IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

>> I AM THE BUDGET MANAGER THIS ITEM HAS SIX PEOPLE TO IT AND I'M GOING TO JUST THE FIRST FOUR AND TAKE IT FROM THERE LET ME GET THIS OFF IT'S A TRIP FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 20 AND THE 2024 BUDGET WE HAD THE FIRST 60 DAYS OF THE FISCAL YEAR TO MAKE BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS TO THE FISCAL YEAR EXTENDED THE PUBLIC HEARING ASPECT OF THIS ITEM IS FOR PUBLIC BUDGET CHANGES TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PUTTING THE DEFUNDD ROAD PROJECT THAT BUDGET WAS TO PLACE SPENDING BOND PROCEEDS FIRST.

>> THIS EVENING HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CIP PORTION OF THE BUDGET TROOP THAT HAS TO BE COMPLETED IN 60 DAYS.

YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON PREMISES THAT?COMING UP THAT IS FINE.

>> PLEASE DON'T LET CONGRESS KNOW THAT I DRESSED UP FOR YOU

AND OFFER HIM. >> I GAVE HER MONEY THIS TIME WILL ON A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS THE TRANSITION CENTER AT THE GIVEN OPPORTUNITY TO PULL ASIDE JUNIOR $50000 THE LAST TESTAMENT THAT WE GOT RECEIVED A $50000 BY INVESTING.

RIGHT NOW THE PLANS ARE DONE AND WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT DONATED THE LABOR AND THE CONCRETE FOR THE PAD, SEVEN TO 50000 OTHER BUILDING OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE MOVED ALONG AS WELL, I MET WITH JUDGE COLLINS AND HE MET WITH JUDGE WHITTINGTON THE BUILDING THAT IS EMPTY AND WERE DISCUSSING THE POSSIBILITY AS HOUSING BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IT MAY BE INOPERATIVE YET YOU WITH THOSE FUNDS THIS IS A RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND HELP THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT INTERCOMMUNITY.

THIS IS NOT A INCO SPRINGS PROJECT THIS IS ONE THAT SAID YOU KNOW WHAT WE DO BELIEVE NOT IN MY BACKYARD WE BELIEVE WE CAN HELP THE COUNTY AND THE PEOPLE BEING RELEASED NEAR GOING BACK TO COMMUNITIES AND FIVE-YEAR DIA GREAT PROJECT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY NOW THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA MONEY HERE AND THERE AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU PULL TO UNDER $50000 AND GET US ON OUR WAY. I BELEVE IF WE START NOW THERE'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY WITH CHRISTMAS NEXT YEAR WE MAY HAVE HOUSING FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS IN A FRESH START AND A NEW START IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND HELPING THESE INDIVIDUALS IN OUR EMPLOYERS. I HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER PULLING IN MOVING A LITTLE BIT OF THE ARPA FUNDS IN CIP FUNDS AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. WE HAVE OPERATING DOLLARS WERE TALKING ABOUT CIP THAT THE SMALL AMOUNT I THINK I CAME TO YOU FOR THE WHOLE 750 VAST TIMES. I DROP MY EXPECTATION BUT I HEARD YOU HAD EXTRA MONEY MAYBE AND I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU CONSIDERING NOT. I WOULD HAVE TO RUN IN SEE NANCY

BUT THANK YOU ALL. >> THANK YOU.

>> WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE BUDGET TROOP FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. SEEING NONE I WILL CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL BRING YOU BACK FOR EMOTION AND

DISCUSSION ITEM A 22 A. >> I WILL MOVE APPROVAL FOR THE

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BUDGET FISCAL YEAR 22 TWOMAC 23. >> OKAY WITH EMOTION DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ARE THERE DISCUSSIONS.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

MOTION CARRIED 5-0. THE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION OF THE NON- CIP PORTION OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

>> THE REST OF THE BUDGET AND OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGET CONSIDERING REVENUE, GRANTS, TRANSFERS, CARRYOVERS AND EXPENDITURES THIS TRANSITIONS FROM THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR TO

THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. >> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS?

THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC APPROVAL. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND. EMOTION AND THE SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, THE MOTION CARRIED 5-0. APPROVAL BUDGET RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FY20 2 - 23 BUDGET, SAME THING, THIS IS TAKING THE MONEY FROM 2020 -- CMD TAKING FROM 22 - 23 MOVING TO 23 TWOMAC

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR VEG? FOR THE DISCUSSION ON CMD? ANYONE WANTING TO SPEAK ON CMD? ALRIGHT. MOTION?

>> I WILL MOVE APPROVAL. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND

A SECOND. >> IS THAT MOTION ON C

OR JUST CMD. >> I WILL SUCK AT IT.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION TO THE SECOND, FOR THE DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, MOTION CARRIED 5-0. WE ARE TO AE AND F AND TROY IS COMING UP. OBVIOUSLY WAS SOMETIMES I CANNOT TALK TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ABOUT THIS. WHEN WE LEFT THE WORKSHOP TODAY I STAYED IN MY OFFICE AND I WORKED ON WHAT COMMISSIONER CHALLENGED US TO WORK ON.

I HAD A COPY FOR EACH OF YOU AND I CAME UP WITH A DIFFERENT POSSIBLE SOLUTION TO THE ISSUES.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT EE AND F TOGETHER.

>> YES, MA'AM I THINK THE BEST APPROACH SINCE WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE OVERALL BUDGET FOR THE ROADS WHICH BASED ON SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS MAY AFFECT E AND F AND THAT WE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THE BONDED ROAD PROJECTS AND BASED ON THAT WE COULD BRING BACK THE BUDGET AMENDMENT ON THE DECEMBER 12 MEETING IF THAT IS THE DIRECTION OF

THE BOARD. >> I DO HAVE TWO COMMENT CARDS ON THIS ITEM. IF IT PLEASES THE BOARD WE CAN GO AHEAD AND HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC AND THEN WE CAN BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION.

IS THAT GOOD WITH EVERYONE? ALRIGHT SEE NO OBJECTIONS, MR. WILLIAM BAYER OR BAIN? BEAR, COME ON UP.

>> I'M BILL BEAR A RETIRED COLONEL OF THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE, THE REASON I BRING THAT UP I MANAGE MILLION-DOLLAR PROGRAMS IN THE PAST AND I KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS COMPETING WHENEVER YOU LOOKING AT A BUDGET AND I'M HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR THE PICKLEBALL.

BEHIND ME. [INAUDIBLE] THIS IS A GROUP OF SUPPORTERS PEOPLE THAT PLAY PICKLEBALL THERE LITTLE BIT AGED LIKE I AM BUT I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW HOW GREAT OF A SPORT PICKLEBALL IS HERE AND ACROSS THE WORLD WE HAVE PLAYERS 12 YEARS OLD AND WE HAVE A LADY THAT'S 92 YEARS OLD AND IT GOES ACROSS THE ENTIRE SPECTRUM OUT THERE PLAYING WITH US.

USF BUILT COURTS IN THE OTHER DAY WE WERE

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PLAYING A BARNES, THE CAPACITY ALL THE COURTS WERE FULL AND THERE WAS A FULL STACK FOR PEOPLE WAITING TO GO AND PLAY. I SAW THE BUDGET GREW FROM WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE PICKLEBALL COURTS IN CLAY COUNTY THEY HAVE EXPANDED IF NOT MORE. WE'RE HERE TO ADVOCATE I KNOW IT'S A BIG AMOUNT OF MONEY BUT WE WOULD ALL LOVE TO CONTINUE TO PLAY PICKLEBALL AND HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO PLAY HERE, IT'S A GREAT SPORT TO GET OLDER PEOPLE TOGETHER WITH HER YOUNGER PEOPLE AND IS VERY INEXPENSIVE TO GET IN AND START PLAYING. A LOT OF THE UNDERPRIVILEGED KIDS CAN COME OUT THERE TO PADDLE PLAY IN GREAT DIVIDENDS TO ALL YOUR CONSTITUENTS IN CLAY COUNTY, PLEASE CONSIDER THAT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. NEXT WE HAVE LEGALLY LEAGUE A.K.

COACH. >> 1087 SPRING STREET PICKLEBALL COURT. DOCTOR BURKE, FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON TRYING TO GET PICKLEBALL IN GREENE COMPANY SPRINGS, WE STARTED ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO AND HARDLY ANYBODY IN THIS COUNTY KNEW ABOUT PICKLEBALL. A MATTER OF FACT TWO YEARS BACK THEN CALLED WHEN HE CAME IN AND ASKED THAT YOU GUYS DO SOME DEDICATED PICKLEBALL COURT AT RONNIE VAN ZANDT PARK WHICH THOSE WERE ALL TENNIS COURTS THAT HARDLY NOBODY USES. THOSE OF YOU AT THE BOARD AT THAT TIME AND ANDREW WAS ON BOARD LAST YEAR I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS OF THE BID THAT THEY WERE ASKING. I KNOW THAT IS HIGH AND I KNOW IT'S GONE UP PROBABLY 2 - 3 TIMES SINCE THE MONEY WAS BUDGETED.

I CANNOT GIVE YOU THE EXACT DAY I KNOW WAS IN DECEMBER WHEN WE WERE HOSTING A PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENT YOU HAD COME OVER AND TOLD ME THERE WAS A LITTLE OVER 100,000 THAT COULD GO KNOW PRICES HAVE JUMPED UP SINCE THEN.

YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT GREENE COMPANY AUGUSTINE AUGUSTINE'S SAVAGE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DO FOR PEOPLE, WE HAVE PROBABLY MADE, WE PROBABLY GIVEN THE ROTARY PROBABLY CLOSE TO 10000 FOR HIGH SCHOOL SCHOLARSHIPS.

THE PEOPLE AT THE FOOD PANTRY SAID THEY WERE OUT OF FOOD. WE HAD ENTERED MY AND PEOPLE CAME OUT OF NOWHERE IN THE ENTRY FOR THAT TOURNAMENT AT LEAST 25 OR MORE DOLLARS WORTH OF FOOD, WHAT WE MADE ON THAT WAS OVER 2500 POUNDS OF FOOD FOR THE FOOD PANTRY.

WE ARE ALL ABOUT PEOPLE AND WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THEM AND KEEP KIDS OUT OF THE STREET.

I REMEMBER THE TIME COMMISSIONER WHEN YOU AND I WENT FOR A RIDE ON MY GOLF CART ALL AROUND GREEN COVE AND YOU WANTED TO SEE THE PARKS.

NOT A ONE OF THEM HAS PICKLEBALL COURTS AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I WANTED TO TAKE YOU ON

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THE RIDE BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T SEE ANY TENNIS

COURTS. >> THANK YOU.

>> WE CANNOT REFURBISH TENNIS COURTS BECAUSE WE

DON'T HAVE ANY. >> THE TENNIS COURT IN GREENEGREEN COVE SPRINGS IS BY CHAIN-LINK.

LIKE I ASKED YOU BEFORE, PLEASE CONSIDER THIS BECAUSE KIDS DON'T HAVE MUCH TO DO AROUND HERE.

>> THANK YOU MISLE. WE APPRECIATE IT.

ALRIGHT. >> MADAME CHAIRMAN.

>> YES. >> AND MYELOGENOUS ANYTHING ABOUT THE MORATORIUM.

>> TECHNICALLY NOT. >> I COULD GIVE YOU CHAIRMAN'S PRIVILEGE IS MY LAST NIGHT YOU KNOW.

>> I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR. >> ALRIGHT I DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENT CARDS. WE WILL MOVE IN TO TROY.

>> I KNOW YOU PROVIDED YOUR SHEET.

AN EXPLANATION. >> I DIDN'T KNOW IF THE COMMISSION HAD A SHEET THAT YOU WANT TO

PROVIDE. >> THROW IT IN THE MIX.

>> I DIDN'T KNOW ANYBODY ELSE HAD A SHEET TO

PROVIDE. >> I HAVE A QUESTION DO WE KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING FROM TONIGHT.

>> WHAT WE NEED TO DO. WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT. THE FIRST IS APPROVAL OF A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE AUGUSTINE'S SAVAGE PICKLEBALL COURT. THAT ONE IS THE ORIGINAL BUDGET OF $248,000 LEFT IN THEIR, WE SPENT ABOUT $15000 ON DESIGN WORK, $12000 ON DESIGN WORK, WE SPENT THAT IN THAT'S OUT.

248,000 THAT WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR THE AUGUSTINE'S SAVAGE PICKLEBALL COURTS IS NOT ENOUGH THE BID CAME IN AT 453,000, 457.

467. 406 TO $4000.

WE ARE MISSING $225,000. IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THAT THE KNIGHTS MARINA LIFT STATION.

THAT IS ONE ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT.

WE ALSO HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE ARCO BUDGET ON HER AGENDA TONIGHT.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO IS GIVE DIRECTION THAT THOSE TWO THINGS ARE CONNECTED WITH ON THE BOND AND TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM. IT MAY BE THAT WE TABLE THOSE TWO ITEMS TO THE NEXT AGENDA FOR THE BUDGET HEARING. WE CANNOT ABOUT ON $7.7 MILLION TONIGHT BUT WE CAN GIVE DIRECTION ON WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE BROUGHT BACK AND IT MAY AFFECT US VOTING ON THOSE TWO ITEMS.

>> THINTHANK YOU. >> YES, MA'AM.

YOU SOME THAT UP BEAUTIFULLY.

REALLY WHAT WERE ASKING FOR ON THE ARPA ITEM TO PULL THAT UNTIL NEXT AGENDA AND WHATEVER YOUR DISCRETION IS ON EE BUT REALLY GIVING STAFF DIRECTION FOR THE $7.7 MILLION SO WE CAN COMPARE THE BUDGET AMENDMENT TO BRING BACK

TO YOU ON THE 12TH. >> MADAME CHAIR CAN I MENTION THE TERMS OF THE PICKLEBALL IN THE SECOND BID OF 460 PLUS THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THE PICKLEBALL COURT OF 380,000.

WE DON'T WANT TO PUT IT OUT TO BID AGAIN IT'S GOING TO GO HIGHER. WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE MONEY OR COME UP WITH ANOTHER PLAN FOR THE COURTS AT THIS POINT IN TIME ALL CONSTRUCTION IS 30 OR 40% HIGHER THAN IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO.

THAT IS WHAT WERE DEALING WITH.

>> I DID HAVE THE COUNTY MANAGER THAT TOLD ME THAT HE AND THE CITY OF GREEN COVE SPRINGS ARE

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CURRENTLY PURSUING OTHER OPTIONS TO COME UP WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO HELP PAY FOR THAT SO THERE IS WORK GOING ON ON THAT.

SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT AND I THINK WE WANT THE PICKLEBALL COURTS TO BE THERE AND TO COACH LEE'S POINT WAS POIGNANT WE STARTED AT $100,000 NOW OR AT A HALF A MILLION.

THE QUESTION? >> WHAT IS THE BOTTOM

PART FOR YEARS? >> RANDOM NOTES.

>> YOU HAD PICKLEBALL DOWN THERE AGAIN.

>> THAT WAS A NOTE TO REMIND MYSELF WHAT THE NUMBER WAS. I PUT PICKLEBALL THERE BUT IT'S NOT PART OF THE 7.7.

I APOLOGIZE. >> IT WAS NOT PART OF

THE 7.7. >> NO.

>> ITS POTENTIAL MONEY IF WE WANTED TO GO THAT

WAY. >> SO WE CAN CROSS THAT

OUT. >> YES IF YOU WANT TO.

>> THESE ARE ALL SUGGESTIONS.

>> DID YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH YOUR SUGGESTION.

>> I COULD DO THAT PRETTY QUICKLY.

AS YOU LOOK AT THE COLUMNS THE MONEY THAT GOES TO THE SWOOSH AND WHAT MAY REMAIN OF THE LINE ITEM SINCE I DID TAKE PARTIAL AMOUNTS.

WE HAVE THE UNEXPECTED INTEREST FROM CIP WHICH IS $600,000 AND WE KNOW THE FIRE STATION, 15 COMES OUT OF ARPA FOR A MILLION DOLLARS AND THAT WOULD TAKE THE MONIES OUT OF THEIR.

I DID LEAVE A MILLION DOLLARS ACQUISITION TO HELP WITH THE FIREFIGHTING LAND.

THE BILLING PROGRAM I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM THAT'S WHY I PUT TROY IT'S UNDER HIS BUDGET IS GOING TO SUPPLY US WITH THAT.

BUT I CAN'T ABOUT 500,000 TOWARDS SWISH AND 500,000 FOR RESURFACING AND I TOOK A MILLION AND AT LEAST 7 MILLION FOR THE RESURFACING AND THE REASON I FELT COMFORTABLE TAKING THOSE ROADS NOT BECAUSE I WANTED TO TAKE THE ROADS BUT I FELT IF WE TOOK THE ROADS MONEY AND INVESTED IN ROADS AND BE DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE IT WENT. THAT WAS A PHILOSOPHY THERE. REDUCE OUR LAND ACQUISITION MILLION DOLLARS.

THE DIRT ROAD NATION 790 THAT LEAVES US 540.% THE GT SHELTERS AT 250 THAT LEAVES US WITH AND THAT COLUMN THIRD FLOOR ADMIN I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THAT IS BUT IS DOWN AT 508 FOR THIS YEAR AND HAS AN ONGOING BUDGET, WAREHOUSE 500, THAT IS FOR THE REMAINS IN THE CCD A PROJECT WHICH WE ALLOCATED FOR POSSIBLE DEVELOP ON COLLEGE DRIVE THAT IS OUT BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER FELL THROUGH THEIR SO THERE IS 200 THERE AND I PUT DOWN THE COUNTY ROAD 220 QUADRANT SO THAT LEAVES US 1 MILLION. IT'S A MILLION IF YOU TOTAL THAT UP AT 7.7 YOU KNOW HOW TO USE THE PICKLEBALL AT ALL IT'S 248 LEFT THERE.

>> OKAY I AM HAPPY TO GIVE AN EXPLANATION OF WHERE I GOT MINE FROM GREED WE ALREADY HAD THE ARPA BOND AND TRANSPORTATION MONEY ALLOCATED ON THE SHEET THAT TROY GAVE US WHICH WAS 1.147999, WE DO NOT KNOW WHERE THE EXTRA DOLLAR CAME FROM. I TRIED TO GIVE TROY A DOLLAR EARLIER AND HE WOULD NOT TAKE IT.

THE FAIRGROUNDS MASTER PLAN IMPROVEMENT I PUT THAT ON THERE BECAUSE I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH JEAN WITH THE WATER IN SEWER THAT WAS PLANNED AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, THAT BID CAME BACK OVER $3.3 MILLION IN THE CCU WAY PETERS CREEK FACILITY WILL NOT BE ONLINE ANYWAY UNTIL THE END OF 25. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO SPEND THAT MONEY THERE, THE EXTRA INTEREST WAS THE 600,000 WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.

I DID PUT ON HERE THE PICKLEBALL NOT THAT I DON'T SUPPORT IT BUT THAT'S HOW I FOUND OUT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR OTHER WAYS TO SUPPORT IT. OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT THE JT A BUS SHELTER AT 250, THIRD FLOOR ADMIN I STOLE FROM COMMISSIONER LIST THIS MORNING AND PUT THE HALF-MILLION ON THE MILLION FROM THE LAND ACQUISITION I INCLUDED THE PARK IN THE

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LIBRARY. IT WAS IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE OAKLEAF LIBRARY DESIGN AND THE COMMISSIONER TOLD US THAT HER CONSTITUENTS WERE EXCITED ABOUT LIBRARY ON THE GO SO I PUT THOSE TWO IN THERE, THE WILLIAMS VOTE RAMP AND SOME IN YOUR SUGGESTIONS IN THE 500,000 FROM THE 315 ROAD WIDENING AS REAL MONEY THAT IS FINISHED AND WE ALLOCATED THE 500,000 THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD DID NOT PAY THE MONEY BACK BUT THEY DID SO THE FIVE A THOUSAND IS REAL MONEY. I GUESS I WILL STOP THERE'S CLEARLY OTHERS GOING ON.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU STOP LISTENING I DON'T

KNOW WHY SHE CONTINUE. >> SPECIFICALLY ON THE 220 QUADRANT I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH CHARISSE AND SHE THOUGHT IT WAS NOT APPROPRIATE PULLING OUT A GOOD BIT OF THAT MONEY AND SHE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT SO SHE SUGGESTED NOT COMPLETELY TAKEN OUT SO I TOOK OUT THE REMAINING AMOUNT WHICH INCLUDED EXTRA DOLLAR. THAT WAS AN EFFORT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE AND I DIDN'T THINK ANY OF THE SPECIFIC PROJECT INFLICTED TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PAIN BUT SOME OF THE OTHER ONES DID.

>> JUST FOR CLARITY BETWEEN THE CCP PROJECT IN THE ARPA ROAD 471999 SO THERE'S CLARITY I INCLUDED 200,000 IN THE 1.1 MILLION BECAUSE WE KNEW THE PROJECT WAS NOT WHAT HAPPENED.

>> I'M GLAD YOU CLARIFIED THEM.

>> IT'S HARD LOOK AT BOTH OF THESE TOGETHER BUT CLEARLY IT LOOKS LIKE WE CAN GET AROUND HAVING TO DITCH THE PICKLEBALL.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO GET RID OF THAT 100,000 BREED UPRIGHT THEIR.

THERE IS DEFINITELY WAYS WE CAN KEEP FROM THE MILLING AND RESURFACING. IF YOU PUT A COMBINED BOTH OF THESE TOGETHER IT LOOKS LIKE WE CAN KEEP FROM HAVING TO DITCH THE PICKLEBALL.

>> ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND, WHATEVER THE BOARD'S DECISION IF YOU DECIDE TO LEAVE THE PICKLEBALL COURT YOU NEED TO FIND 220 FIGURE NUMBER WILL BE 7.7 PLUS 225,000 MORE BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO FIND THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THE PICKLEBALL COURT FEAR NUMBER WOULD BE 7.9 FOR

CLARITY FOR THE BOARD. >> THE ROAD WIDENING THE

315 IS NOT ON YOURS. >> THAT IS EXTRA MONEY IN THE PROJECT WAS COMPLETED AND WE RESERVE THE 500,000 BECAUSE OVERHEAD TO PAY US BACK AD THEY HAVE NOW DONE THAT.

THAT IS REAL MONEY. >> THE 600,000 RIGHT

THERE. >> IT WAS UNDER BUDGET.

>> MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE RESTARTED THE TOP AND WORK OUR WAY DOWN WE HAD LOW HANGING FRUIT AND CERTAINLY 1.147 MILLION THAT IS EASILY SATISFIED I HEADED DOWN TO 900 TROY CORRECTED ME BECAUSE HE INCLUDED THE CCD EXTRA INTEREST IS 600,000. WILL SKIP THE PICKLEBALL FOR NOW, BUS SHELTER 250 ADMIN OF 500 LAND ACQUISITION 1 MILLION SKIP IT IF YOU WILL FOR THE TIME BEING PARK AND LIBRARY, WILLIAMS VOTE RAMP. ROAD WIDENING AT 500 AND THE COMMISSIONER REVISE NUMBER ON 220 INTERSECTION WILL BE THE 4541.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE COMEDY OF A CALCULATOR

MR. COUNTY MANAGER. >> JUST TO CONFIRM

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1.1 MILLION AT THE TOP, 600,000 FOR THE EXTRA INTEREST. BUS SHELTER AT 250, LAND ACQUISITION AT 1,000,003RD FOR 500,000 IN THE VOTE RA RAMP.

>> WE WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THAT OUT.

>> INCLUDED. >> DIVERT THE MONEY.

>> THAN 500,000 FROM THE COUNTY ROAD 350 AND 450

FROM THE QUADRANT. >> CORRECT.

>> WAS IF WE COME UP WITH THE SAME ANSWER.

>> CAN YOU REEXPLAIN THE 220 QUADRANT AND WHAT

THE IMPACT OF THAT IS. >> CHARISSE CAN, PROBABLY BETTER THAN I CAN SHE SAID IS NOT REALLY QUADRANT INTERSECTION RIGHT NOW SO THIS IS THE QUADRANT TOWARD LIGHTBOX AND NOW WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT SO SHE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO

KEEP SOME MONEY THERE. >> RICHARD SMITH CLAY

COUNTY DEPARTMENT. >> GOSLING THE DESIGN MODIFICATION IT WAS WHEN TO BE A QUADRANT ROAD A LOOP ROAD THAT MAPPED AROUND THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT OF THE INTERSECTION.

DOT FUNDED IT THAT WAY. IT SOUNDS A BAD WORD WAS KIND OF LIKE AN EXPERIMENT I ASKED FOR ANOTHER EXAMPLE AND THEY GAVE ME THE ROUNDABOUT OVER BY THE FLORIDA SCHOOL DEAF AND BLIND BY SAINT AUGUSTINE, THAT IS NOT THE SAME THING.

SO WE GOT PERMISSION EARLIER THIS YEAR TO REMOVE THE QUADRANT ROAD AND IT WILL BE A WIDENING IMPROVEMENT OF THE INTERSECTION WITH DUAL LEFT TURNS FROM HINDLEY.

EXCUSE ME FROM HINDLEY NORTHBOUND TOWARDS MIDDLEBURG HIGH SCHOOL FROM 22220 EASTBOUND TO THE LANDING ON HINDLEY, THAT IS ENGINEERING ASPECT OF IT. FINANCIALLY WE HAVE NOT, WE HAVE ENGINEERING ESTIMATES AND WE DO NOT AND WILL NOT WANT TO BID UNTIL MARCH IS A REAL PROJECT THE DOT HAS FUNDING IN AND WE HAVE BUDGET MONEY AND AS WELL.

CHARISSE DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN.

>> RICHARD YOU MIGHT WANT TO STAY UP THERE ARE TWO PHASES TO THE PROJECT, IS THIS PHASE I OR PHASE II. THIS IS CALLED PHASE ONE. THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT PHASES TO THE PROJECT MONEY IS AN ISSUE ON THIS PROJECT AND WERE LOOKING AT THE BRIDGE PROJECT CURRENTLY WHICH IS PHASE TWO.

BOTH ARE VERY COSTLY BUT WERE HOPING THAT WE HAVE A SOLUTION THAT CAUSED IT TO BE LESS ON PHASE TWO BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET.

WITH THIS NUMBER WE'RE GOING TO TAKE 454,000.

>> THTHAT IS WHAT I WAS PROPOSING COMMISSIONER OFFERED MORE LIKE A MILLION.

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE FINAL NUMBERS

ON PHASE ONE YET DO WE? >> NO WE DO NOT THE 454 WHERE DID THAT NUMBER COME FROM.

>> KEYSTONE MATH IF YOU TAKE 7.7 IS THE LAST

ITEM ON THE LIST. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT WASN'T AN AMOUNT THAT WE GOT FROM THE DESIGNER TO MAKE THE DESIGN CHANGE.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE. THAT'S WHY IT HAS EXTRA DOLLAR AN IMPORTANT PROJECT AS WE KNOW AND THIS IS NUMBER ONE PROJECT OF NORTH FLORIDA

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TBL LIST FOR ST. JOHN'S, DUVALL, NASSAU AND CLAY

COUNTY. >> AND WE DID A LOT OF SHUFFLING ON THIS PROJECT SO BEFORE THERE'S A FINAL DECISION AND A CUT OUR TEAMS NEED

TO LOOK AT A LITTLE. >> AND I ASK YOU.

>> IF WE TOOK IT FROM THERE.

>> THAT IS BRINGING DIRT ROADS UP PUTTING EXTRA MONEY INTO THE PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET SO WE CAN ADD MORE MATERIALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN EXPERIMENTAL STUFF AS WELL WE SEPARATED THE MILLING PROGRAM TO ANY ROAD LESS THAN A QUARTER OF A MILE LONG OF THOUSAND TO 200 FEET LONG THAT WILL BE DONE BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IN THEIR GROUP DID ANYTHING ABOUT THAT IS THE MILLING'S BUDGET HANDED OUT AT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. I THINK WE'RE NEEDED SOME OF THE ROADS WITHOUT MONEY ON THE

FUNDED ROAD. >> IS NOT THE FULL 750.

>> I THINK THAT 754 THIS YEAR.

>> 794 THIS YEAR. >> SO THERE IS 750 LEFT.

>> I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH US LEAVING THE 454 IN AND BORROWING FROM THE REJUVENATION PER BETWEEN PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING WE SPOKE A LOT ABOUT THE DIFFERENT WAYS. AS SOMETHING THAT YOU TALK ABOUT FREQUENTLY HOW ARE DIRT ROADS USED TO BE THIS HIGH IN OTHER DITCHES ARE THAT HIGH IN THE ROADS ARE THAT HIGH. THAT'S WHAT THE REJUVENATION MONEY IS TO TRY TO START GETTING THAT MONEY BACK. IF WE ARE A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS SHORTER THAN WHAT WE WERE, THE 790 WAS NEW MONEY TO REALLY GET THAT STARTED.

>> IT IS AN INVESTMENT. WE GRADE THESE ROADS 17 TIMES A YEAR WHEN WE PUT MILLIONS ON THEM WE MAY TOUCH THEM ONCE A YEAR AND THAT'S WHEN WE GET A RESIDENT CALL. SOME WE MAY NOT TOUCH IT AGAIN AT ALL. IT'S TRULY AN INVESTMENT AN OVERALL REDUCTION OF BUDGET.

>> I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO CUT IT BUT I WOULD HATE TO SEE US CUT THE MILLING FLIGHT, THE RESURFACING LINE IN EXCHANGE FOR THE

REJUVENATION. >> I THINK THAT'S THE

RIGHT DECISION. >> IF WE TAKE OUT THE 454,000 AND WE LEAVE THE 220 QUADRANT IN TACT AND WE TAKE THE 451 FROM DIRT ROAD REJUVENATION WE THINK IT WOULD BE OKAY? IT COMMISSIONER, YOU DID NOT REALLY ADDRESS THE FAIRGROUNDS MASTER PLAN IMPROVEMENTS.

>> I WAS GOING TO GET THERE.

THE 2.4 MILLION HAS BEEN CARRIED ON THE BOOKS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND THAT WE COULD GET SEWER AND WATER FROM CC AWAY ONTO THE FAIRGROUNDS PREMISES. AND FOR WHATEVER REASON A NUMBER OF YEARS WE COULDN'T GET A QUOTE AND THERE WERE SOME HOLD UP WHEN WE FINALLY GOT WORD THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE CAPACITY AND WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR IN TERMS OF THE ADDITIONAL WATER AND SEWER UNTIL THEY GOT ANOTHER STATION IN PETERS CREEK SO THEY WERE NOT AVAILABLE TO GIVE US ANY.

THAT IS WHERE SOME OF THE MONEY WAS INTENDED.

ALL I CAN SAY IS WE HAVE A BARN PROJECT THAT WE HAVE TO MATCH AND WE KNOW CONSTRUCTION IS GOING UP 30 - 40% AND I WOULD HATE TO SEE US DO AWAY WITH A SMALL CUSHION TO GET THE BARN PROJECT FINISHED AND I WOULD ALSO SAY WITH THE SEPTIC TO SEWER PROGRAM THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.

LET'S FACE IT THAT'S THE BIGGEST EVENT THAT TAKES PLACE IN CLAY COUNTY ON A TRUISM BASIS AND EVERYBODY REALIZES BATHROOMS ARE THE PROBLEM AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, WE HAVE OUTSTRIPPED THE CAPACITY FOR BATHROOMS WITH ATTORNEY FOR - 25000 PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP AT A

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PARTICULAR DAY. FOR YOU TO GO TO SEPTIC TO SEWER AT SOME POINT, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE SEPTIC TANKS WERE PUT IN AT SOME POINT BUT CERTAINLY IF WE CAN REPLACE THOSE WITH THE NEW MODERN ONES AND ADD MORE MAYBE WE CAN HANDLE MORE THE CAPACITY BY DOING IT IN THAT FASHION SINCE ECOA IS NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE WAS SEWER AND WATER AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE WATER ASPECT AND TAKE US OUT OF WELLS AT THIS POINT. WATER WISE WE MAY HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GET THAT OR DO MORE WELLS I'M NOT SURE WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. I'M NOT SURE THE CAPACITY AS COMPARED TO WHAT WE NEED BUT THAT IS MY THOUGHTS. IN A YEAR OR SO THE STATE MAY COME BACK AND SAY YOU HAVE ALL THE SEPTIC TANK SHE CAN HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THEM AND WHERE DO WE GO TO GET THE MONEY.

THAT'S ONLY THING I HAVE QUALMS ABOUT AT THIS POINT IS TO TAKE THAT MONEY KNOWING FULL WELL NOW THAT WE KNOW WE CAN'T GO ONE WAY, TRY TO GO THE OTHER WAY SO WE CAN HAVE THE CAPACITY THAT IS NECESSARY SO FOLKS CAN ENJOY THE FAIR IN THE SEPTIC TANKS CAN HANDLE THE EXTRA

CAPACITY. >> MY THOUGHT PROCESS.

I DID NOT WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE BARN PROJECT, I DID NOT TAKE THOSE IT WAS MORE PETERS CREEK WILL NOT BE ONLINE UNTIL THE END OF 25.

THAT IS TWO YEARS FROM NOW BEFORE WE COULD POTENTIALLY CONNECT AND AS JEAN SAID THE BID CAME BACK IF THEY WOULD ENTERTAIN IT IT WOULD BE ACCRUED CONNECTION AT THAT POINT AT THE END OF 25 AND WE WOULD HAVE TO SUPPLEMENT.

I WAS TRYING TO STRETCH OUT TWO YEARS.

THE BID CAME BACK AT DECEMBER 23 AT 3.3 MILLION SO WE WERE NOWHERE NEAR CLOSE.

>> AND WE WON'T BE IN 25 IF WE GO BACK INTO IT AGAIN OBVIOUSLY IT'LL BE MORE THAT MAY BE WHY WE NEED TO CONSIDER ANOTHER METHOD.

THAT WAS MY THOUGHT ON THAT NOT THAT I DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT AND SAY THAT'S NOT A BAD PLACE

TO FIND MONEY. >> MADAM CHAIR IF I MAY.

>> I DON'T KNOW WE GAVE YOU THE TOTAL NUMBER.

BASED ON TRANSPORTATION THE CIP IN THE ITEMS THAT YOU LISTED OUT AND SWITCH TO 454 AND REJUVENATION INCIDENT TO 20 INTERSECTION ROUTE

4.5 MILLION. >> RIGHT.

>> I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT NUMBER.

>> THANKS. >> WE NEVER HAD THAT NUMBER. SO WE SKIPPED OVER THE FAIRGROUNDS MASTER PLAN AND WE SKIPPED OVER THE PICKLEBALL FOR THE MOMENT, DID YOU HAVE COMMENT ON PARK ON THE GO?

>> I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEADS IN THOSE AREAS TO SEE HOW CRUCIAL THEY ARE TO THEIR PLAN. WE HEARD THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THEIR TASK OF PUTTING THAT TOGETHER. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM AND MAKE A DETERMINATION.

>> I FEEL LIKE WERE ON THE PRICE IS RIGHT, ON

DOWN. >> JUSTIN PIERCE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND. THE PARK STARTED A FEW MONTHS BACK WE WENT TO AN FRP A CONFERENCE AND WE SAW SOMETHING IN THE CITY OF PLANTATION THE DATA MOBILE RACK UNIT THAT HAD ATTACHMENTS IN STORAGE WHERE WE CAN GO TO HER PARKS BECAUSE WERE LACKING INDOOR SPACE SO WE CAN TAKE HER PARKS AND AND VISIT PARKS AND BRING THEM TO US, THAT WAS THE INITIAL IDEA.

AT THIS POINT IT'S NOT A NECESSITY TO HAVE, SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD IN BUT WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD FOR SOMETHING WE WANT TO TAKE ANOTHER YEAR OR SO AND SOMETHING WILL USE FOR OUR REC DIVISION AND MORE ACTIVE PROGRAMMING IN IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO IN THE FUTURE OVER OUTREACH. ALTERNATE OVER TO YOU.

>> THANK YOU LIBRARY DIRECTOR WILL BE FIRST STARTED THINKING ABOUT LIBRARIES TO GO IT WAS TO ME IN NEED IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE IT'LL HAVE A LIBRARY UP THERE WAS ANOTHER WAY TO BRING

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LARGER PROGRAMMING TO THE AREA VERSUS A SMALLER OUTREACH AND THAT WAS OUR INITIAL PLAN FOR THE STOREFRONT PROPERTY AND WE WERE ABLE TO FIND THAT INTO FIND THE NEEDS, NOW THAT WE ARE PROPERTY FOR ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LIBRARY IN THE AREA JUST LIKE JUSTIN SAID IT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY FOR US TO EXPAND OUTREACH.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO EXPAND OUR OUTREACH AND WE HAVE A SPECIAL VEHICLE OR NOT.

AGAIN I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THAT IN MY STRATEGIC PLAN THAT I TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING THAT I WILL BE WORKING ON. HE GAVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE OPPORTUNITY BUT WE WILL STILL BE CONTINUING TO DO OUTREACH. WE HAVE TO PUT IT INTO THE FUTURE THAT'S OKAY AS LONG AS WERE MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE COUNTY UP IN THE OAKLEAF AREA,

THAT IS IMPORTANT TO US. >> TROY HOW MUCH IS THAT GOING TO COST TO GET A DESIGN PLAN.

>> WE FACTORED INTO THE ART BESIDE 400,000 FROM TALKING TO JEAN THAT WAS A BALLPARK ESTIMATE BASED ON WHAT WERE PAYING FOR DESIGNS RIGHT NOW AND THAT WAS SOMETHING WE FACTORED IN

TO THE ARPA DISCUSSION. >> IF WE GO WITH COMMISSIONERS PROPOSAL WHERE WILL WE DRAW THE

OTHER $150,000. >> YOU MEAN FOR THE

EXTRA $150,000. >> FOR THE DESIGN.

>> THAT WAS LEAVING IT IN.

THAT WAS LEAVING IT HE HERE.

>> I WAS SUGGESTING ELIMINATE LIBRARY ON THE GO BUT KEEP THE OAKLEY DESIGN.

>> I MISUNDERSTANDING. >> I THINK THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT PIECES TO THE CONVERSATION, HOW TO FUND 7.7 AND THEN OTHER MONEY AND ARPA.

ON THE OTHER SHEET THAT I PROVIDED YOU AT THIS POINT I LISTED OUT 1.5 MILLION BASICALLY FOR REVENUE REPLACEMENT AND OF THAT WILL TAKE THE 1.1 MILLION WHICH IS WHAT COMMISSIONER CAUGHT A REFLEX FOR THE MONETARY TRANSPORTATION THAT WE WOULD LEAVE THE OTHER 400,000 OUT FOR THE OAK LEAF BRANCH DESIGN.

THEORETICALLY COULD YOU TAKE 400,000 AND USE IT TOWARDS THE ROAD, YES, I THINK THAT WAS HER POINT SHE DOESN'T WANT TO TAKE THE 400,000 AND MOVE IT TO BONDED ROAD SHE WANTS TO LEAVE THE LIBRARY DESIGN IN THE ART BES BESIDE.

>> I WAS NOT CLEAR ON THAT I JUST WANTED TO

MAKE SURE. >> GREAT QUESTION LIST MAKERS TRY TO GIVE YOU A CHEAT SHEET NOTE TO LOOK

AT BUT IT DID NOT WORK. >> SO IT'S ACCOUNTED THAT'S WHY WERE ONLY TAKING 1.147 TO ADD.

>> YES, SIR. >> I WANT TO SPEAK FOR MARY BUT I THINK THAT WAS THE IDEA OF THE LIBRARY ON THE GO IF WE DO THE DESIGN THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT PROJECT MOVING FORWARD THE NAVY LIBRARY ON THE GO WOULD TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS.

>> IF IT AFFECTS YOUR DISTRICT CLAY WAS THE

OTHER PART. >> IT'S NICE TO HAVE BUT THEY USE THE MIDDLEBROOK LIBRARY.

I THINK ORANGE PARK MALL WAS ANOTHER PLACE THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT THE CAN TAKE THE LIBRARY ON THE GO AND PARK AT THE ORANGE PARK MALL OR SOMEWHERE NEAR FOR THOSE FOLKS IN THAT AREA THAT YOU HAVE A LOCATION RIGHT THERE CLOSE BECAUSE ORANGE PARK KINGSLEY IN PARK AVENUE.

>> IS NOT ON KINGSLEY. >> IT'S RIGHT THERE.

>> I ASSOCIATE THINGS WITH FOOD.

BY THE DAIRY QUEEN. >> RIGHT BEHIND THE DAIRY QUEEN. THAT'S WHAT THE THINKING WAS BUT I THINK IT IS NICE TO HAVE, WE FUNCTION WITH THE FIVE LIBRARIES FOR NOW AND WE WANT TO ADD A SIXTH. WHEREFORE LIBRARIES AND WE WANT TO ADD A FIFTH. ANYWAY THAT'S WHY I WAS WILLING TO MAKE THE SACRIFICES BECAUSE THE AREA OF NEED IS DEFINITELY OAKLEY.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO COME UP WITH PLACES WE WOULD INFLICT THE LEAST AMOUNT OF PAIN ON HER RESIDENCE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO, WE CUT THINGS LIKE RESURFACING AND MILLIONS WERE AFFECTING TAXPAYERS ON A DAILY BASIS. I DIDN'T WANT TO CUT ANYTHING FOR PUBLIC SAFETY SO THAT'S WHY

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ONLINE THE MILLION DOLLARS FOR FIRE STATION 15 IS NOT ON THEIR. I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER THAT POSSIBLY A DEVELOPER BUT THE IMPACT FEE CREDITS YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THEM SO PUBLIC SAFETY IS THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE TO ALL OF US AND I WANT TO HONOR THAT.

AND I THINK QUALITY ROADS ARE A PART OF TH

THAT. >> DID YOU FACTOR THE WAREHOUSE IS PUBLIC SAFETY AS WELL.

>> I DID NOT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

>> IS A MULTIPURPOSE WAREHOUSE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN LOOKING TO DO FOR A WHILE AND 500,000 ON THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR IT'S BEEN ONGOING TO GET UP TO THE TOTAL OF WHAT THEY THINK THEY NEED.

WE'VE DONE AWAY WITH IT AS LONG AS THIS 500,000 WAREHOUSE UNLESS THEY GO WITH THE LEASE SO THAT'S

WHY I COUNTED THAT A IN. >> WHERE IS NOT LISTED

ON THE BUDGET. >> IS UNDER CIP I

BELIEVE. >> THAT WOULD BE ON PAGE THREE UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS MULTI AGENCY WAREHOUSE. IS THAT THE ORIGINAL PLAN FOR THAT, THE WAREHOUSE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR EM, FIRE RESCUE AND SHERIFF.

>> WHAT WAS OUR THOUGHTS OVER A FOUR-YEAR ... IS THAT IS DESIGN THIS YEAR?

>> DESIGN START BUILDING IT MADE HEAVEN MULTI THE DISCUSSION OF MULTIPLE BUILDINGS BUILT OVER TIME ON A CAMPUS THAT'S WHERE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS COME TO YOU PLACES TO BUILD THEIR VEHICLES AND STUFF A PATH TO SOLVE THE

PROBLEM. >> WE CUT THE LAND ACQUISITION TO ACQUIRE THE LAND BY HALF.

>> BUT WE STILL HAVE A MILLION IN THEIR UNIT UNDERSTAND THERE IS POSSIBLE LAND THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR FIRE STATION THAT'S WHY I DID NOT CUT THE WHOLE THING FOR THE LAND ACQUISITION THAT PENNY FARMS IS PARTICIPATING IN.

>> WERE UP TO 5.6, IS THAT RIGHT?

>> 4.5. >> I THOUGHT YOU ADDED

THE LIBRARY AND PARK. >> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS THE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD.

I'M ASSUMING THAT WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THE 4.5 THAT'S WHERE I WAS DRAWING THE LINE TO

START WITH MADAM CHAIR. >> ALL QUICKLY GO THROUGH THEM AGAIN WE HAVE ARPA BTP MONEY, THE EXTRA CIP MONEY THE JT A BUS SHELTER, ADMIN THIRD FLOOR RENOVATION. A MILLION FROM THE LAND ACQUISITION, WILLIAMS VOTE RAMP OF 100,000.

500,000 RECOGNIZED SAVINGS ON 315 ROAD WIDENING AND 454,001-DOLLAR FROM THE DIRT ROAD REJUVENATION PROJECT, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO ANY OF THOSE?

>> I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO REINSTATE THE

454. >> WE TOOK IT OUT OF THE 220 QUADRANT AND TOOK IT OUT OF THE DIRT ROAD

REJUVENATION PROJECT. >> ON YOUR CIP LIST DIRT ROAD REJUVENATION IS 790,000.

>> SO WERE ADDING 750. >> FROM 790 AND 798 WERE TAKEN OUT 454,001-DOLLAR.

>> THAT IS MORE THAN I HAD DONE.

>> THAT'S WHAT I ASKED ENSURE EASE OF RICHARD THOUGHT IT WOULD BE OKAY.

BUT IF WE DON'T COME UP WITH HER THEN OBVIOUSLY

THE MATH DOESN'T WORK. >> IF THERE IS CONSENSUS ON THAT DID NOT GET THIS TO THE 4.5 TO THIS POINT

TIME. >> IS THERE CONSENSUS ON

THAT? >> THAT IS FINE.

>> THEN WE HAVE. IF WE ELIMINATE PARK ON

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THE GO AND LIBRARY ON THE GO AND WE DELAY I WOULD RATHER SAY IT THAT WAY IF WE DELAY LIBRARY ON THE GO AND PARK ON THE GO, THAT IS A HALF A MILLION. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY

OBJECTIONS TO THOSE? >> NO.

>> WE ARE AT 5 MILLION AND WE NEED 2.7 MILLION AND IF WE KEEP THE PICKLEBALL WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO FIND, WE REALLY NEED TO GO TO 3 MILLION.

SO WE NEED 3 MILLION MORE.

>> I WOULD SUGGEST SINCE WORKING TO BE SHORT AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST WILL BE FOR DOING SOMETHING WITH THE SEPTIC TANKS OR INCREASING CAPACITY AT THE FAIRGROUNDS KEEP 1.4

IN THE MIX. >> TO CHANGE OUT THE

1 MILLION. >> 1 MILLION TOWARDS A

7.7 MILLION. >> RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO MILLION MORE TO KEEP PICKLEBALL INTO DO THE

SWOOSH. >> AS MUCH AS I KNOW THEY AND WE IN A GROUP HAPPEN SEARCHING FOR MONIES IN THE LOCATION FOR THE WAREHOUSE AND SEE WHERE THE 500,000 IS GOING TO GET THEM A ESPECIALLY THE WAY THEY HAVE THAT FINANCED.

AT THIS POINT WE HAVE TO START MAKING HER DECISIONS AND IF IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND WITH FULL ONE AD FOR THIS YOUR FOR A TOTAL, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST.

>> QUESTION. >> AS FAR AS MILLING AND RESURFACING DO WE KNOW WHAT COMES FROM DISTRICT FIVE OR DO YOU HAVE A PERCENTAGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT YOU WILL BE DOING IT I KNOW THE MAJORITY SPEAKS TO IT BUT.

>> WE DID NOT BREAK IT DOWN INTO COMMISSION DISTRICTS BECAUSE IT'S WHAT PART OF THE COUNTY THAT THEY WORKING. WE ARE PREPARED FOR THIS AND IF YOU REALLY WANTED ALL OF IT RIGHT NOW WHAT WE WOULD DO WE HAVE BIG ROADS TO DO THIS YEAR WE HAVE PARKWAY, WE HAVE VILLAGE SQUARE PARK.

WE HAVE ABOUT SIX ROADS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT ARE BIG ROADS LIKE THAT AND THEN WE HAVE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE DID UNDER DURING WORK AND WE WOULD LIKE TO GET FRESH PAYMENT ON THOSE.

WE DID THAT THEN WE CAN DO ALL THAT FOR 5.5 MILLION. THERE IS A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS THAT WE PLAN TO DO THIS YOU THAT WOULD NOT BE DONE.

ONE BIG ROAD IN THE MIDDLE OF BERG AREA THAT WE WOULDN'T DO THAT'S OUR NUCLEAR OPTION IF YOU WANTED TO CUT A COUPLE OF MILLION, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO BUT WE ARE PREPARED.

>> THAT IS RESURFACING. >> WHAT ROAD.

>> THE THREE-YEAR PEPPER GRASS, LONGHORN.

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LONGHORN WE POSTPONED FOR A YEAR THE OTHER TWO WE WOULD DO. IMMOKALEE IS THE FIRST ONE TO BE DONE IN JANUARY IN THE BILLINGS PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE IS CONNECTED TO THAT BECAUSE WE WANTED A SITUATION WHERE WE WILL MILL THE PARKWAY AND INSTEAD OF THE MILLING'S GOING TO SLEEPY HOLLOW WHICH IS ABOUT A 55 - 60 MINUTE ROUND-TRIP FOR THE DUMP TRUCK WE WANT TO TAKE THIS DIRECTLY INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OFF OF CHALLENGER SOUTH OF CANDLEWOOD WHICH IS A 10 MINUTE ROUND-TRIP ON THE DUMP TRUCK AND PLACE THOSE PERMANENTLY. THAT IS WHY THE MILLING PROGRAM FITS INTO THAT AND WE CAN DO IT

EFFICIENTLY. >> MY ONLY COMMENT TO THAT THE LIST THAT IS LOOKING AT IS SPREAD OUT. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANSWERING TO DISTRICT FIVES SPECIFIC QUES QUESTIONS. REMEMBER TRYING TO MAKE THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES AND THE RESOURCES MORE

EFFICIENT. >> 209 RIVERSIDE IS ONE OF THE ONES WE WANT TO DO ALSO THAT IS DISTRICT FIVE. THE OLD-TIMERS COLLEGE 209 SO THERE'S LIKE FOUR, 209'S AND THE COUNTY THIS GOES FROM THE APARTMENTS UP TO 17 SOUTH OF BLACK CREEK BRIDGE.

>> IS IT THAT BAD, I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT WAS.

>> IS PROBABLY FIVE OR SIX WORSEN THE COUNTY.

>> REALLY, I DRIVE THAT OFTEN.

>> WE STOP AT THE GREEN COVE CITY LIMIT.

WILL PAY THROUGH THE AREA WE SURFACE THE AREA THAT GETS FLOODED BUT IT'S NOT GOOD AT ALL IS

IN VERY POOR CONDITION. >> WHAT DID YOU SAY THAT WOULD BE A GOOD AMOUNT IF WE WERE ABLE TO USE ANY OF IT, YOU CAN STILL GET A GOOD AMOUNT DONE.

>> WE WOULD GET ABOUT 27 ROADS DONE 27 SEPARATE STREET INCLUDING THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS, TANGLEWOOD IN THE GROVE PARK AREA AS WELL AS THE SIX LARGER ROADS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

IMMOKALEE IS 980,000-DOLLAR PRICE THAT WE ARE TO RECEIVED. IT'S 1.1 MILLION TO COMPLETE IT. THOSE ARE BIG CHUNKS OF OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR. NEXT YEAR WILL MAYBE FOCUS ON THE NEIGHBORHOODS AGAIN.

>> WE ARE TRADING LONGHORN FOR LAKE ASBURY SO I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE RESIDENCE ON LONGHORN IS A WE WE'RE GOING TO RESURFACE BUT NOW ARE

NOT. >> THAT'S THE HARD PART.

>> LONGHORN IS $430,000, THAT WOULD BE ONE DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU CUT AGAIN FROM TO

8 MILLION. >> 8 MILLION OF THE

BUDGET THIS YEAR. >> WE HAVEN'T SPENT ANY YET THE PAPER WILL HAVE AGGREGATE UNTIL JANUARY.

>> THAT IS 407,000, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH THAT WE PUT IN THIS WITHOUT CUTTING THAT.

>> IF WE CUT $2 MILLION, WHAT COULD YOU DO.

>> LONGHORN WOULD BE ADDED BACK INTO AND ONE MORE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE SEVEN I DESCRIBED.

>> I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY SOMEWHERE AROUND 5.5 MILLION INITIALLY WITH THE SEVEN ROADS CAN YOU CLARIFY FOR US HOW MUCH GETS US THE 6 MILLION ALLOCATED. CURRENTLY IT'S 8 MILLION AND CIP. IF WE TRUNCATED TO 6 MILLION WHAT CAN WE GET.

>> PEPPER GRASS, TO A NINE RIVERSIDE, VILLAGE SQUARE PARK AND LONGHORN THOSE OF THE SEVEN LARGE ROADS THAT WE WOULD DO AND WHEN I SAY LARGE THOSE ARE OVER $400,000 AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE 10 ROADS BEYOND THAT THE GROVE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD AND TANGLEWOOD WHISKEY AVENUE AREA THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD GET THIS YOUR FOR 6 MILLION.

>> WHAT WOULD BE BE GIVING UP, WHAT ARE THE $2 MILLION WHAT ROADS ARE $2 MILLION THAT

WOULD HAVE TO BE ABOUT. >> WE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD OFF OF PINE AVENUE THAT WE NEED TO COMPLETE THAT HAS SIX ROADS IN IT. OFFICE 17 FLEMING ISLAND DRIVE, LAVA PLAYING AND HEATH ROAD AND THE TWO AND NINE RIVERSIDE AREA. KEYSTONE, OAK HILL AND

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SANS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD IN OAKLEAF DEERFIELD THAT WE HAD PROPOSED EIGHT ROADS IN THE

NEIGHBORHOOD. >> IF WE WERE TO MAKE THAT CHANGE IT AFFECTS DISTRICT ONE THE MOST IS WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY.

>> DISTRICT ONE. >> FLEMING ISLAND THAT

AREA. >> FLEMING ISLAND IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S A SICK STREET NEIGHBORHOOD.

PROBABLY DOLLAR WISE THE BIGGEST EFFECT WOULD BE IN THE OAKLEAF AREA BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL OAKLEAF IS PRETTY NEW IT'S NEWER THAN THESE OTHER PLACES SO THEREFORE RESURFACING IS NOT NEARLY AS DEMANDING TO BE DONE NOW AS IT IS IN ORANGE PARK FOR INSTANCE.

WE HAVE DEERFIELD, DELAFIELD, FON RIDGE, SPRINGFIELD COURT, SUMMER DRIVE, WITH A GREEN THOSE WITHIN IN THE OAKLEAF PROBABLY POOR QUALITY MATERIAL BACK IN EARLY 2000'S THAT NEEDS REPLACEMENT. MOST OF OAKLEAF IS IN

REAL GOOD CONDITION. >> IT WOULD BE DELAYED A YEAR AND YOU THINK WE COULD GET ON FOR NEXT YEAR WOULD THEY BE THE FIRST ONE TO GO BACK ON.

>> YES THAT'S WHAT WE DID THIS YEAR WE TOOK THE ONE FROM LASTER, OAK PARK IS BECAUSE WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR END WE POSTPONED IT TO FIRST THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE STUFF UNDER THE DRAIN WISE. AGAIN THIS NOT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENTS DESIRE OR YOUR DESIRE BUT IT IS AVAILABLE AND I CHECKED IT OUT WHILE

WE WERE WAITING. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH

RICHARD. >> THANK YOU RICHARD.

IS ANYBODY ELSE OUT THERE THAT HAD MONEY.

ANYBODY ELSE? >> MADAM CHAIR WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THE WAREHOUSE.

>> WE DID NOT DISCUSS THAT.

>> TALK ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS WITH THE

WAREHOUSE. >> YOU ALREADY EXPRESSED

YOURS. >> DO WE HAVE THE HONOR LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATIONS REQUEST?

>> THAT WAS A REQUEST THAT WE MADE LAST YEAR.

>> I THOUGHT WE HAD THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING.

>> THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEXES REALLY FOCUSING ON THE 911 COMPS AND REPLACEMENT TO START BUILDING NOW THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX

THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. >> THIS IS THE MULTI

AGENCY. >> IF YOU REMEMBER A FEW YEARS BACK WE WERE IN NEGOTIATIONS THAT FELL THROUGH DUE TO THE PRICE INCREASES THIS IS WHAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TALKED ABOUT STORING VEHICLES AND WE COULD USE THIS FROM RENTING

PLACES. >> MADAM CHAIR THAT'S WHY I SUGGESTED THE WAREHOUSE I DID NOT THINK IT WOULD MOVE THEM FORWARD THIS YEAR WITH THE 500 I ORIGINALLY SAID TICKET MILLION OUT OF THE RESURFACING THE MILLION PLUS A 500,000 OR 1.5 IN THE NEW AD THAT WERE AT 7.5, JUST A

THOUGHT. >> I THOUGHT WE WERE AT FIVE WITH THE LIBRARY ON THE GO IN THE PARK ON

THE GO, CATCH ME UP. >> AND THEN A MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE FAIRGROUND ASKED HER PLAN TO GET US TO 6,052,000.

>> I CONCUR WITH THAT. >> THEN WE ARE SHORT THE MARKET TECHNICALLY SHORT 400,000.

>> IF YOU INCLUDE IMPECCABLE.

>> RIGHT NOW THE 6 MILLION SEEMS TO BE

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CONSENSUS WITH THE PICKLEBALL COURT IN THE ROOF PROJECT THAT YOU ILLUSTRATED WE NEEDED $8,000,000.7.9 OR 8 MILLION YOU WOULD NEED ANOTHER 8.9 IF YOU DO THE RESURFACING IN THE WAREHOUSE OF 500,000 LIKE A JET ONE AND A HALF MILLION AND YOU WOULD STILL BE A 400,000

SHORT. >> RICHARD WE CAN TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM THEIR.

1.5 OR WHATEVER THE EXTRAS.

>> IT ALSO TAKES 400 OUT OF THE LAND ACQUISITION.

>> 400 OUT OF WHAT? >> THE LAND ACQUISITION, 600,000 NEW TAKE THE 400,000 AND PUT THAT ON

TOP SO WE BE AT 7.9. >> YOU ALSO HAVE THE 1 MILLION UNDER THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

>> CHARISSE IS DIALING HERSELF.

>> WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE MILLION UNDER THE FIRE STATION LINE ITEM SO YOU WOULD HAVE

1.6 MILLION IF NEED BE. >> NOT REALLY STATION 15 IMPENDING FARMS ARE NOT THE SAME STATION.

>> STATION 15, MY UNDERSTANDING THE SWEET SPOT FOR STATION 15 FOR RESPONSE TIME IS KIND OF IN THE AREA OF THE RAILROAD.

IS THAT SANDRIDGE BUT NOT JUST THE EXPRESSWAY THERE IS AN EXPRESSWAY ON HENLEY THERE IS ONE

SANDRIDGE, CORRECT. >> CHIEF YOU ARE SITTING OVER THERE. DID YOU HAVE AN ARGUMENT

WITH THEM? >> DAVID IS OVER THERE.

>> IN CHIEF IS OVER HE HERE.

THEN OVER HERE. >> THEY PUSH ME OUT OF THE ROOM MA'AM. ANYWAY CHIEF IS AT THE RIGHT LOCATION. SANDRIDGE EXPRESSWAY IS

LIKE THE SWEET SPOT. >> IF I MADE ONE SUGGESTION IT WOULD MAYBE BE WE DON'T KNOW WHEN 15 IS GOING TO COME UP VERSUS PINNING FARMS.% IF YOU LEAVE THE 600,000 THAT WE CAME UP WITH IN THE LAND ACQUISITION AND MAYBE UNDER ARPA YOU% CHANGE THE VERBIAGE TO SAY FIRE STATION PROPERTY AND IF ONE MOVES FASTER THAN THE OTHER THAT WOULD GIVE YOU THE FLEXIBILITY TO GO LEFT OR RIGHT DEPENDING ON WHICH FIRE STATION MAY COME UP THAT MAY BE AN OPTION TO CONSIDER IF YOU'RE FLEXIBILITY OF THE MILLION DOLLARS DEPENDING ON WHAT

STATION. >> WE WANT THEM BOTH FOR THE PUBLIC OUT THERE ANYBODY THAT OWNS LAND WERE NEGOTIATING WE WANT BOTH.

>> WE'RE GOING TO GET BOTH.

>> WITHOUT GIVING AWAY HALF THE WORLD AND

CREDITS. >> SOMETIMES THE LANDOWNERS HERE THAT WE HAVE THIS MUCH MONEY TO PAY FOR PROPERTY AND THAT'S WHAT THE PRICE

BECOMES. >> I WAS COMMENTING ABOUT CREDITS TO DEFINE SOMETHING WHILE I WAS

DOING THAT. >> THE QUESTION WOULD BE DID WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THE WAREHOUSE?

>> YES. >> DID YOU HAVE CONSENSUS ON HOW MUCH TO TAKE IT RESURFACING.

>> WE SUGGESTED A MILLION AS OPPOSED TO

TWO. >> AND ALL THE ONES THAT RICHARD WAS TALKING ABOUT.

>> MIGHT I PROPOSE, I MEAN THROWING RANGE OF COMMISSIONER, I'M JUST GOING TO ASK YOU WHEN YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT RESURFACING PROJECTS IN DISTRICT FIVE WERE YOU THINKING BECAUSE WERE PUTTING EXTRA MONEY IN HERE THAT YOU WOULD KIND OF DO THOSE. HE'S A MILLION DOLLAR SHORT MAYBE IF WE COULD STRETCH OUT THOSE PROJECTS IN YOUR DISTRICT NOT AT THE SAKE OF SACRIFICING COMMISSIONERS DISTRICT, WAS THAT KIND OF WHERE YOU ARE AT, I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING BUT I DIDN'T WANT

[02:55:02]

TO ASK. >> IS THAT CONSENSUS ON

THE MILLION DOLLARS. >> DOES ANYBODY HAVE HEARTBURN OVERTAKEN MILLION DOLLARS OVER THE

RESURFACING. >> NO HEARTBURN.

>> WOULD LIKE A 227,552,000.

>> OKAY. >> I WOULD SAY FOR

400,000. >> THAT'S WHY I SAID 400 MORE THOUSAND RICHARD AND YOU SAID TO WOULD BE OKAY, THAT STILL A LOT US.

YOU CAN TAKE IT FROM MY DISTRICT.

I WILL SACRIFICE. >> I DON'T THINK THAT

MUCH IN YOURS. >> AGAIN THE INTERNAL GOAL THIS YEAR WAS THE ROADS THAT WE ALL DRIVE ON THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF FOLKS THAT STOP AT THE DISTRICT LINE AND SAY I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER THERE. THEY KEEP ON GOING.

TO GIVE IT OUR NUMBER, OUR BUDGET FOR 209 RIVERSIDE IS 720,142. WE JUST REALLY WANT TO

KICK DOCTOR BURKE. >> CAN WE REPHRASE THAT.

>> WE DID NOT SET THESE UP BY THE DISTRICT, THERE IS JUST NEEDS OUT THERE.

IMMOKALEE IS A BIG NEED IT'S AN ODD ROAD BECAUSE GOOGLE MAPS TELL YOU TO DRIVE IT TO GET TO THE

RV PARK. >> IT'S NOT WIDE ENOUGH THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT TWO WEEKS AGO WITH THE AMAZON DRIVER AND THE DRIVER BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT'S ONLY 20 FEET RIDE, NOW ROADS ARE BUILT AT 24 IF IT'S ONLY 20 FEET WIDE SO THE AMAZON DRIVER AND ANOTHER DRIVER MEARS CLIPPED NOTHING ELSE WAS DAMAGED BUT THE TWO

MEARS. >> WE CONSIDER THOSE THINGS, TO A NINE RIVERSIDE IS BAD WHEN WE WERE LOOKING OUT BAHAMA BLUFF THAT WAS WHAT ARE THE ISSUES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IT FORGET TO GET TO A NINE RIVERSIDE RESURFACED WITH THE FIRST ARE CUT INTERSECTION OF DIO DEITY IN THE LIGHT AT TONIGHT AND YOU HAD TO MAKE THE YOU TURN THAT WOULD HAVE GIVEN A GOOD ROAD AS A BYPASS IF YOU ARE GOING GREEN CO-S

CO-SOUTH. >> AND YOU DO $320,000 WITH RIGHT NOW AND A YEAR LATER.

>> WE COULD STOP IT AND PICK UP ONE, YES, MA'AM IF YOU GIVE US A NUMBER IF YOU GIVE US THE SHOE

WE WILL FIND THE FOOT. >> DID YOU ALL HEAR

THAT. >> IF YOU GET SISTER

HUNDRED $20000 WORTH. >> LOOK AT RICHARD AS

CINDERELLA. >> I MEAN THE SHOE THAT

FITS. >> THEN WE HAVE THE

400,000. >> WHATEVER MY BUDGET IS

JUST LET ME KNOW. >> ALL ASSIGNED SOMEDAY

IF YOU WANT ME TO. >> THAT'S WORTH A LOT

MORE THAN 8 MILLION. >> YOU MAY NOT WANT TO

DO THAT. >> IS CALLED

RETRIBUTION. >> THAT WAS THAT WE HAVE THE TOTAL. HE SKIDDED TO $320,000 ON RIVER ROAD, 209 RIVER ROAD THAT GIVES US A TOTAL. COMING FROM MY DISTRICT.

>> 400,000. >> IN ADDITION TO THE MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE ARE NEEDED FOR

RESURFACING. >> 1.4.

>> ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT RICHARD?

>> YES I JUST WON 231,000.

>> YOU JUST DELAYING IT FOR NEXT YEAR.

>> YES. >> TELL US AGAIN WHAT

THAT GETS US TO. >> IF WE DO 1.4 THAT WILL GET YOU TO 7.9 THAT WE NEED.

>> THAT INCLUDES PICKLEBALL AND IT

INCLUDES SWOOSHES. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> 1.4 MILLION. >> YOU CAN TAKE THAT OUT

OF RESURFACING. >> LET ME SEE IF I RECAP THESE CAN WE DO THAT, STARTING AT THE TOP FUNDING TRANSPORTATION 1.147999, FAIRGROUNDS MASTER PLAN IMPROVEMENT WE ARE TAKING 1 MILLION.

EXTRA EXPECTED INTEREST FOR CIP, 600,000 BUS

SHELTERS FOR. >> LIBRARY ON THE GO TO

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A 50000, WILLIAMS VOTE RAMP 100,000, 500,000 FROM COUNTY ROAD 315 SAVINGS CHARGER PLEASE.

REJUVENATION MULTI AGENCY WAREHOUSE OF $500,000 AND RESURFACING OF 1.4 MILLION.

>> THESE ARE ALL ITEMS THAT I HAD.

>> WERE ADDING THEM UP AGAIN TO MAKE SURE.

>> WE CAN ASK SIRI TO ADD ABOUT HOW DEPENDABLE IS THE NEW UPDATE, NOT HAPPY OVER HERE.

I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT WHILE THERE DURING THE ADDING, THERE IS A FUTURE THAT WAS ADDED ON THE IOS UPDATE THAT CAN GIVE YOUR INFORMATION TO SOMEONE NEAR YOU THROUGH AIRDROP WITHOUT IT EVEN COMING UP. I PUT THE LINK ON MY FACEBOOK PAGE IS PUBLIC IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OFF BUT YOU COULD BASICALLY GO TO YOUR SETTINGS IN TURN IT OFF.

IF YOU JUST GOOGLE PRIVACY ISSUES WITH IOS UPDATE. YOU WILL FIND IT.

SETTINGS, GENERAL, AIRDROP, TURN IT OFF.

>> IT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC SERVICE UPDATES TO GIVE YOU. I ONLY KNOW ONE JOKE I'LL TELL YOU MY JOKE THAT I KNOW.

WHY DID THE APPLE STOP IN THE

MIDDLE-OF-THE-ROAD. >> WHY.

>> HE RAN OUT OF JUICE. THAT WAS ON THE DISPLAY AT THE SHOPPING CENTER, THAT'S HOW I KNOW MY ONE JOKE. I TOLD YOU MY LIFE IS

>> I AM TIRED. >> WANTED ONE TRAFFIC LIGHT SAY TO THE OTHER TRAFFIC LIGHT.

>> DON'T LOOK I AM CHANGING.

>> WE BETTER GET THE ADDING MACHINE GOING.

>> WE CONFIRM THE NUMBERS I THINK WERE GOOD ON THAT. WILL BRING THAT BACK ON

THE 12. >> DATA WHAT WE NEED

THEM TO ADD UP TO. >> 7,952,000.

>> IT LOOKS LIKE IT ADDS UP TO 7.7.

ED IS SWEATING IN THE MONEY FOR THE

PICKLEBALL. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> WE WILL BRING THAT BACK ON THE 12 IS A CIP BUDGET WHICH WE ALREADY ADVERTISED.

>> CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION.

ON ITEM EE WE TALKED ABOUT A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR AUGUSTUS SAVAGE PICKLE BAR STATION.

>> WOULD YOU LIKE THAT. >> KNIGHTS MARINA LIFT STATION YOU STILL GET TO BRING THE SAVINGS.

>> WILL BRING THE SAVINGS TO THE GENERAL

FUND RESERVES. >> CAN WE PUT THAT BACK INTO RESURFACING OR SOMETHING?

>> I WOULD NOT MIX GENERAL FUND WITH CIP MONEY. WILL BRING THAT BACK IN GENERAL FUND RESERVES FOR ANY OTHER PROJECT THAT YOU WANTED YOU OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

FORGET ON THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE CONSENSUS ON THE REST OF ARPA.

IF IT PLEASES THE BOARD D AND E WE WILL PULL THEM AND BRING BOTH OF THOSE BACK.

IF I CAN GET CONSENSUS FROM THE REST OF THE BOARD ON THE ARPA LIST THAT WE HAD AT THE BOTTOM WHICH WAS CHEWING UP ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS WHICH WE WILL BRING BACK THE OAKLEAF BRANCH LIBRARY FOR 400,000 IS SOMETHING WE HAD A CONSENSUS ON THAT IN $636,000, $636,100 OF ARPA FUNDS CURRENTLY AND I THINK A SUGGESTION WAS $386,601 GOING TO THE DRAINAGE PROJECTS INTO A 50000 GOING TO WEIGH FREE.

IS THAT THE DESIRE OF THE BOARD IS THERE

CONSENSUS ON THAT. >> MAY BE COMMISSIONER YOU SEEM TO KNOW EARLIER INFORMATION ON THE WAY

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FREE VERSUS WHAT VAN ASKED US FOR, ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY, DON WAS HERE BUT I DON'T

SEE HIM HE LEFT. >> THERE HAVING A 50TH ANNIVERSARY RETIREMENT PARTY AT THE CLAY THEATERS THAT'S WHY THEY HAD TO LEAVE.

THERE IS TWO WAYS THAT THE WAY FREE CLINIC COULD GO AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE ORIGINALLY NOTED FOR THE MOBILE UNIT BUT THERE IS ALSO A POSSIBILITY WE COULD HELP THEM FURTHER BY HAVING THEM FINISH THE FACILITY IN ORANGE PARK.

THAT MAKES IT AVAILABLE LOCATION LATER IN THAT WE CAN TURN INTO PARKING ALTHOUGH WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO FIND THE MONEY FOR THAT AND HAVE A SLEDGEHAMMER DAY AND DO A DEMO.

AS WORTHWHILE THAT THE PROJECT THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT AND I WOULD LOVE TO HELP THAT OUT I THINK IT REACHES MANY MORE PEOPLE.

>> CAN I ASK YOU, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE WAY FREE MOBILE CLINIC IS OFF THE TABLE.

>> NO IT'S NOT IT IS NOT OFF THE TABLE BUT DON ASKED, THAT'S WHAT HE CAME TONIGHT OBVIOUSLY WE CAN HAVE THEM COME BACK ON DECEMBER 12 AND HAVE THEM TALK ABOUT IT RATHER THAN ME TALK

ABOUT IT. >> I PERSONALLY SUPPORTED IT BECAUSE OF THE MOBILE CLINIC.

IF THE MOBILE CLINIC IS NOT AND I'M OFF THE TABLE WITH WAY. THAT IS BECAUSE WITH THE MOBILE CLINIC THEY CAN SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT FOUR IN THE CLAY HILL AREA IN THE MIDDLEBURG AREA AND KEYSTONE HEIGHTS BUT OTHERWISE THEY DO NOT SERVE THE RESIDENTS.

I REALLY WANT TO SEE THE MOBILE CLINIC HAPPEN I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT YOU ASKED EARLIER ABOUT THE DIRT ROA AND THAT'S WHAT I SAY TO THEM.

>> IS JUST ONE OF THE OTHER.

>> WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.

>> THIS WOULD BE BOTH. >> THERE STILL IN THEIR.

>> I MISUNDERSTOOD. >> RIGHT NOW IT WOULD BE%

BOTH IF THAT'S A DESIRE. >> THE QUESTION CANNOT

PRODUCE. >> YES.

>> THERE ALREADY UNDERWAY WITH THE CONSTRUCTION THAT THEY NEED TO FINISH BEFORE THEY CAN MOVE OUT OF HERE.

THAT WOULD FACILITATE THE MOVING FASTER IF THE EXISTING 30 TWOMAC 40% INCREASE IN CONSTRUCTION COST THAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS.

COMMISSIONER I UNDERSTAND IT DOESN'T HELP YOU IN TERMS OF PEOPLE IN YOUR AREA WE CAN ONLY HOPE WITH THE MOBILE CLINIC IT CAN REACH MORE PEOPLE BUT I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT OUR STRATEGY TO GET PEOPLE AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE FOR THE ONLY ORGANIZATION IN THE COUNTY THAT DOES WHAT THEY DO IN TERMS OF SIGNING PEOPLE UP FOR HEALTHCARE AND THEY HAVE THE NEW PROGRAM UP THE HOUSE SMALL BUSINES OWNERS THAT CAN AFFORD HEALTHCARE ON THEIR OWN BECAUSE HER SMALL BUSINESS.

I KNOW WHEN I WAS SMALL BUSINESS I DID NOT OFFER ANYBODY HEALTHCARE I CANNOT AFFORD IT, THE ABILITY TO SIGN UP AND USE THE SERVICES ONCE I GET THE LARGER FACILITY OPEN.

I JUST THINK THAT EVERYBODY HAS HEALTHCARE AND NOT EVERYBODY'S ABLE TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL TO GET IT OR GO TO A DOCTOR TO GET IT.

THAT'S A REAL SEED THAT WILL GROW AND THEY WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL BRICK-AND-MORTAR LOCATION BUT THEY GOTTA GET THE FIRST ONE GOING

BEFORE THEY CAN DO THAT. >> I WAS JUST ASKING BECAUSE THEY CAME TO US, PRESENTED THE MOBILE

CLINIC. >> THE MOBILE CLINIC IS

NOT GOING TO BE STOPPED. >> IT IS FUNDED.

THE QUESTION IS CAN THEY PRODUCE THE CAPABILITY WITH THIS FUNDING I DON'T KNOW BUT THERE IS MONEY THERE FOR THE MOBILE CLINIC.

>> IS THAT ALL WE HAVE LEFT THERE'S NOTHING ELSE LEFT TO GIVE THEM SOMETHING.

>> AT THIS POINT YOU WOULD BE USING ALL OF ARPA NOW AS A DESIRE OF THE BOARD.

I WOULD HAVE TO UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO SEE HOW IT FITS INTO THE REQUIREMENTS FOR CAPITAL REVENUE REPLACEMENT WHICH WE USED EVERY DOLLAR REPLACEMENT AND WHERE DOES IT FIT IN TWO OTHER ARPA STUFF

SOMEWHERE. >> WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.

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>> I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT IT BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO AND WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO YOU ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

>> I WILL JUST ADD THAT WE HAVE FIVE OTHER PICKLEBALL COURTS IN THE COUNTY AND NONE OF THEM HAVE LIGHTS THE ONE AND KEYSTONE HEIGHTS I GET CALLS ALMOST DAILY ABOUT PUTTING LIGHTS IN THEIR AND IN MARCH IT WILL BE AN ISSUE AGAIN IF CONGRESS WOULD MOVE ON NOT CHANGING DAYLIGHT SAVINGS WOULD NOT BE MUCH OF AN ISSUE BUT JUSTIN GOT THE QUOTE TO DO LIGHTING AT THE FIVE DIFFERENT PICKLEBALL COURTS AND IS 100,000 EACH. IT'S A HALF A MILLION.

IT'S ALL THE TRADE-OFFS. WILL MY CONSTITUENTS IN TWIN LAKES OR FOX MEADOW BE HAPPY THAT WERE SPENDING A HALF MILLION DOLLARS ON THE PICKLEBALL COURT AND WE SPENT 100,000 ON THEIR COURT THAT NOW HAS ISSUES AND JUSTIN HAS TO WORK WITH WARRANTY ISSUES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THOSE ARE THE

TRADE-OFFS. >> THE PROBLEM IS IT WASN'T JUST THE PICKLEBALL COURT IT TURNED INTO DRAINAGE AND POND IF YOU WOULD'VE JUST BEEN THE PICKLEBALL COURT IT WOULDN'T OF BEEN NEAR AS BIG OF A DEAL.

AND TO THE COMMISSIONERS POINT EARLIER THEY

AREN'T GOING TO OWN IT. >> IS NOT OUR PART.

>> WHAT YOUR PEOPLE ARE USING IT.

>> THAT WAS A CONVERSATION.

I'M JUST BRINGING UP FROM THE CONVERSATION EARLIER IT IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF GREENE COMPANY SPRINGS.

>> I WOULD JUST SAY IF WE CAN FIND THE PROPERTY SUMMARY WETHERINGTON CITY LIMITS WERE NOT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM NOT DOING IT WITH GREEN COMPANY OR OURSELVES WE'VE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND WITH A NUMBER OF INSTANCES TO GET THIS THING BUILT AND THAT'S NO GUARANTEE OR PROMISE I THINK IF WE CAN FIND A LOCATION THAT WORKS I WOULD EVEN LOOK BACK AT ANOTHER LOCATION THAT WE LOOKED UP BEFORE AND SEE WHETHER WE CAN GET IT.

I WOULD RESERVE UNTIL DECEMBER AFTER WE MOVE FORWARD A LITTLE BIT MORE.

>> I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH JUSTIN AND TROY AND DANIEL FROM CONSTRUCTION AND WE WERE LOOKING AT THE AERIAL PHOTOS AND WHEN ONE STAFF MEMBER USED TO HAVE KIDS THAT PLAYED IN SPORTS, CARL PEEL THEY SAID OBVIOUSLY WHERE THE TENNIS COURTS ARE THEY DIDN'T PARK THERE THEY ONLY PARKED ON THE GRASS, THE NEW FIRE STATION 20 IS GOING TO HAVE 40 PUBLIC PARKING PLACES THAT ARE NOT REALLY THERE TODAY BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE DESIGN WILL BE SO UNLESS SOMETHING WERE GOING OUT OF THE FIRE STATION FOR THE NIGHTS AND SATURDAY GAMES, THAT IS A POSSIBILITY ON CURRENT COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY.

THE FOOTPRINT FOR THE TENNIS COURT IF YOU GO ON GOOGLE MAP, THE FOOTPRINT IS ALREADY THERE BUT I DON'T KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS

TURNED INTO A BIG DEAL. >> IF I CAN MAKE A SUGGESTION. WE COULD TAKE THE NUMBERS THAT YOU DISCUSSED TODAY AND WE COULD TAKE THE NUMBER FOR THE PICKLEBALL COURT AND LEAVE IT IN CIP AND IF YOU DECIDE TO MOVE THAT BECAUSE MY NECK NEXT RECOMMENDATION WILL BE THE TABLE ITEM 23 WHICH IS YOUR AWARDING OF AGUSTA WE DON'T HAVE A RESOLUTION TO WORD IT.

WHAT YOU COULD DO IS SAY TABLE TO THE 12TH BRING IT BACK ON THE 12TH WITH A RESOLUTION AND SAY PICKLEBALL COURTS INSTEAD OF BEING SPECIFIC TO AGUSTA'S LET STAFF HAVE THAT TO EXPLORE ANY OF THE LOCATION OF THAT IS THE DESIRE AND ONE OTHER THING, GABBY AND HER QUICKNESS DON SAID HE COULD SUPPORT BOTH FACILITIES IF THE BOARD CHOSE TO MOVE IN THAT

DIRECTION. >> OKAY.

>> YES, MA'AM SHE TOOK CARE OF THAT WHILE WE WERE SITTING HERE TALKING.

>> JUSTIN DO YOU WANT TO COME UP.

>> YES. >> JUSTIN PIERCE PARKS AND. WHAT ARE THE THINGS IN A DESIRE BY THE BOARD WILL GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT CARL PIO AS A LOCATION BUT ONE THING AND WANTED TO KEEP IN MIND WE WILL HAVE TO GET ENGINEERING AND RICHARDS TEAM IN IN THE MAJOR ISSUE THERE WAS NO FOOTPRINT INITIALLY THE

[03:15:04]

OTHER TWO PICKLEBALL COURTS THAT WE CONVERTED WAS TEARING DOWN EXISTING IN REBUILDING AND THOSE WERE IN THE REQUIREMENTS WE NEED TO LOOK AT IS THERE ANY TYPE OF DESIGNS TO PUT INTO THIS PROJECT REMOVING CARL PIO OR PREVIOUS AS THE CREDITS THAT WE WILL NEED TO NOT HAVE A STORMWATER RUNOFF RETENTION POND.

THAT'S ONE THING I WANTED TO FACTOR IN.

>> I'M GOING TO REVISIT THAT.

THE REASON WHY THIS IS A GREAT LOCATION BECAUSE HOW MANY PLAY THERE IN THE GYM.

YOU CAN HAVE THE SAME AREA.

IF YOU GO TO NOKIA T OR ANY OTHER AREA BESIDES CLAY COUNTY, NICER AREAS.

THE AMOUNT OF PICKL PICKLEBALL, THERE IS NOTHING IN GREEN COVE, WE NEED IT.

THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING.

IT'S BEEN OVER A YEAR I KNOW AND I HEAR EVERY OTHER WEEK AND JUSTIN HAS HEARD SO MUCH TOO.

>> I THINK IT FELL POSSIBLE WE NEED TO GET

THIS DONE. >> WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT NOT GETTING IT DONE BUT IS IT THE RIGHT

LOCATION. >> OKAY WE'RE GOOD.

DOES EVERYONE FEEL LIKE TRY HAS ENOUGH TO GO OFF OF AND COME BACK ON THE 12TH?

>> WE WILL BRING ALL OF THIS ON THE 12TH AS A BUDGET AMENDMENT AND WILL BRING BACK PICKLEBALL COURT IN THE BUDGET AND AT THAT TIME STAFF HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO PROVIDE YOU ONE WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE.

THAT WOULD BE ITEM 22 IN IT FOR GOOD ON 22 THEN ON 23 WE WOULD ASK TO GET THIS TABLE TILL THE 12TH. WILL TABLE 23 IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THE BOARD UNTIL DECEMBER 12.

>> LET'S DEAL WITH THEM WHAT IT IS TIME.

WE WANT TO TABLE ITEM E AND F ON 22.

>> WILL WE NEED TO TABLE THEM OR JUST NOT VOTE ON

THEM. >> ITEM NUMBER 22 IS

[23. Bid No. 23/24-018, Green Cove Springs Augusta Savage Arts & Community Center Pickleball Courts Project - RE-BID (K. Smith)]

OVER. ITEM NUMBER 23 WE NEED A MOTION TO TABLE OR JUST BRING IT BACK.

>> IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.

>> IS EVERYONE GOOD WITH THAT.

OKAY TO ALL YOUR PICKLEBALL PEOPLE, STAY TUNED. THANK YOU.

>> NOT UNTIL WE TAKE IT UP, ON DECEMBER 12.

[24. Cost Reimbursement Funding Agreement for a Tourism Feasibility Study with Clay County Economic Development Corportation (K. Morgan)]

BUT NOT UNTIL WE ACTUALLY TAKE IT UP.

ITEM NUMBER 24, COST REIMBURSEMENT FUNDING FOR TOURISM FEASIBILITY STUDY WITH CLAY COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

KIMBERLY AND I SEE CRAWFORD '.

>> THIS IS NOT ABOUT PICKLEBALL.

THIS IS AN AGREEMENT FOR A COST REIMBURSEMENT WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT APPROPRIATION TO DO FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR A

TOURISM PRODUCT. >> OKAY.

>> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR KIMBERLY,

DISCUSSION? >> CRAWFORD DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY.

HELLO? >> NO, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CRAWFORD.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO

APPROVE. >> I WILL SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND NEED FOR THE DISCUSSION READ ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES 4. THANK YOU FOR STAYING.

[25. Twelfth Amendment to Agreement No. 2020/2021-213 for Professional Engineering Design Consultant Services for the Bonded Transportation Program Construction Management At Risk Group #2 regarding Project 6A with Jacobs Engineering Group Inc. (E. Dendor)]

ITEM NUMBER 25 IS A 12 AMENDMENT TO AGREEMENT NUMBER 2020 - 2021 FOR THE BONDED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING DESIGN SERVICE CONSULTANT SERVICES FOR THE BONDING TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM

REGARDING PROJECT SIX A. >> GOOD EVENING AND THE TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM A MINISTRY.

WITH THIS EVENING CARLA CAMPOS OWNERS

[03:20:02]

REPRESENTATIVE AS YOU MENTIONED A REQUEST TO APPROVE A WORD OF NUMBER 12 AND TO THE MENTIONED AGREEMENT DASHED TO 13 WHICH IS AN EXISTING PROFESSIONAL DESIGN SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH JACOBS IN PREPARATION PHASE THREE TO OPERATIONALIZE THE IMPROVEMENTS ON SIX-DAY TO CONNECT THE PARKWAY AND PROJECT 6B DO THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD 315 AND 315B.

>> OKAY QUESTIONS FOR ED?

>> SEEING NONE I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOVED APPROVAL. >> I WILL SECOND SPIN EQUIVALENT MOTION AND THE SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, MOTION

[26. Public Hearing on Liberty Ambulance Service's Application for Renewal of a Certificate of Public Convenience and Necessity for Ambulance Service (J. Boree)]

CARRIED 5-0. ITEM NUMBER 26, PUBLIC HEARING ON LIBERTY AMBULANCE SERVICES APPLICATION FOR RENEWAL OF A CO PCN.

>> GOOD EVENING YES, MA'AM, WE ARE HERE TONIGHT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING FOR APPLICATION RENEWAL COPCN PRIMULA SERVICES.

APPLICATION WAS COMPLETE AND DIRECTION FROM STAFF

WOULD BE TO APPROVE. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR

CHIEF? >> FOR TWO YEARS

QUESTIONING. >> AS A TWO-YEAR PERIOD.

>> HE OTHER QUESTIONS? OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, IS ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE NEED FOR LIBERTY AMBULANCE SERVICES, SEEING NONE ALL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR A MOTION TO

DISCUSSION. >> I MOVED APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? , ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, MOTION

[27. Public Hearing for the purpose of considering the entry into a Purchase and Sale Agreement for the purchase by the County of real property necessary for the Bonded Transportation Program, more particularly described as a portion of Tax Parcel No. 46-05-26-010321-002-00 and authorization for County Manager to execute all documents necessary to close the acquisition (C. Grimm/E. Dendor)]

CARRIED 5-0. PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSIDERING ENTRY, MORE BONDING TRANSPORTATION LAND PROGRAM AND AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY MANAGER TO EXECUTE DOCUMENTS AS NECESSARY.

>> GOOD EVENING ADD BACK FROM THE TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM. ITEM 27 IS A REQUEST FOR PUBLIC HEARING IT APPROVAL FOR THE SALE AGREEMENT TO PURCHASE THE REFERENCE PARCEL WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY A THIRD OF AN ACRE NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT PLANS ON BOND ROAD IIIA AND AT THE INTERSECTION OF WATKINS ROAD IN RUSSELL ROAD.

>> OKAY. QUESTIONS?

>> SEEING NONE I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN TALKING ABOUT THIS

PURCHASE OF THIS PARCEL. >> ISSUE JUMPING UP TO COME SPEAK? OKAY.

WHEN I CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING YOU JUMP UP.

>> IS LIKE BEING AT AN AUCTION.

>> DON'T SCRATCH YOUR NOSE YOU TO SPOT IT.

AT ANY RATE SORRY ABOUT THAT ALL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING YOU BACK FOR ACTION.

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> A MOTION AND THE SECOND.

DOES YOUR MOTION INCLUDE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE

COUNTY MANAGER. >> IT DOES.

>> EMOTION DATA SECOND, FURTHER DISCUSSION.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

[28. Public Hearing for the purpose of considering the entry into a Purchase and Sale Agreement for the purchase by the County of real property necessary for the Bonded Transportation Program, more particularly described as a portion of Tax Parcel No. 46-05-26-010324-002-04 and authorization for County Manager to execute all documents necessary to close the acquisition (C. Grimm/E. Dendor)]

>> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0.

A PUBLIC AIRING FOR ANOTHER PIECE OF

PROPERTY. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> THE SAME CORRIDOR THIS IS A REQUEST FOR PUBLIC HEARING IN A QUREQUEST FOR THE SALE AGREEMENT, THIS IS A SMALL PORTION NECESSARY TO PUT THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AGAIN AND PROJECT IIIA AT THE INTERSECTION OF

WATKINS ROAD ON 209. >> A DIFFERENT PROPERTY

OWNER? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS PARCEL? CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRINGING IT

BACK FOR ACTION. >> MOVE APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE FURTHER

[29. Public Hearing for the purpose of considering the entry into a Purchase and Sale Agreement for the purchase by the County of real property necessary for the Bonded Transportation Program, more particularly described as a portion of Tax Parcel No. 46-05-26-010324-002-06 and authorization for County Manager to execute all documents necessary to close the acquisition (C. Grimm/E. Dendor)]

DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, MOTION CARRIES 5-0. PUBLIC HEARING ON A

THIRD PARCEL. >> AGAIN I REQUEST FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL AS THE PURCHASE SALE AGREEMENT FOR REFERENCE PARCEL A VERY SMALL PORTION AND IT'S NECESSARY FOR THE SAME AREA PROJECT IIIA AT THE INTERSECTION OF WATKINS

ROAD ON 209. >> OKAY, QUESTIONS? OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING, WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE THIRD PARCEL TONIGHT, I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK FOR

ACTION. >> EMOTION.

>> I WILL SECOND. >> ANY FURTHER

[30. Public Hearing for the purpose of considering the entry into a Purchase and Sale Agreement for the purchase by the County of real property necessary for the Bonded Transportation Program, more particularly described as Tax Parcel No. 32-05-26-021023-001-00 and authorization for County Manager to execute all documents necessary to close the acquisition (C. Grimm/E. Dendor)]

DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR

INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. >> MOTION CARRIES 5-0.

OUR FOURTH PUBLIC HEARING ON A PARCEL FOR

BONDED TRANSPORTATION. >> THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 30 A REQUEST FOR PUBLIC ARENA PURCHASE SALE AGREEMENT TO PURCHASE A REFERENCE PARCEL, THE

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PROPERTY IS NECESSARY TEMPLE MAY ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS. THIS IS A BOND PROJECT

68 COUNTY ROAD 350. >> OKAY A DIFFERENT PROJECT, ANY QUESTIONS? I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS PARCEL? I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT

BACK FOR ACTION. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO

APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> .62 ACRES.

>> YESTERDAY .62 ACRES, 10000.

IT'S 150 FEET DEEP BY 20 FEET LE COUNTY ROAD 315 IN THE PARCEL IS A PART OF THE ACTUAL ROADWAY COMPONENT AND THERE IS AN EXISTING RESIDENCE THERE AND WERE WORKING WITH THE OWNER THEY WOULD SELL THE ENTIRE PARCEL IF YOU WOULD, THE PART THAT WE NEED AS WELL IS THE TWO THIRDS THAT WOULD BECOME