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[Public Comment]
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[Board Member's Comments]
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>> ANOTHER ITEM THAT WAS RECENTLY BROUGHT TO OUR
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ATTENTION WAS THAT SOMEONE HAD DETERMINED THAT WE COULD NO[00:52:40]
LONGER HELP TO INITIATE SIGNAGE OF HISTORIC MARKERS AND[00:52:49]
INCORPORATED MUNICIPALITIES ON OUR OWN INITIATIVE OR EVEN BY[00:52:52]
THOSE PEOPLE WITHIN THOSE PLACES THAT WANTED US TO HELP THEM.[00:52:57]
>> THAT IS CORRECT. THE SERVICE AREA FOR THIS BOARD
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IS THE UNINCORPORATED PART OF THE COUNTY.[00:53:02]
YOUR FUNDING IS TO GO FOR PROJECTS IN THE UNINCORPORATED[00:53:05]
PART OF THE COUNTY. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE ASSISTANT[00:53:11]
COUNTY MANAGER, AND SO THE DISCUSSION LAST MONTH WAS IF[00:53:15]
SOMEONE BROUGHT AN AGREEMENT TO THE COUNTY OR COULD WE HAVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH-- FOR YOUR SERVICES.THE DECISION WAS THAT IF AN APPLICANT CAME WITH THE FUNDING FOR THE MARKER, AND AN AGREEMENT WITH THE MUNICIPALITY OR TOWN, THAT THIS MARKER WOULD BE LOCATED IN AND BROUGHT THIS TO THE BOARD, WE WOULD GET BOARD APPROVAL.
THAT THE BCC APPROVAL. >> DOES THAT PERSON PRECLUDE THAT IS ONLY UNINCORPORATED AREAS COULD RECEIVE MONEYS FROM
THAT IS CORRECT. >> HOW DID THEY ARRIVE AT SUCH A CONCLUSION? ARE THOSE MUNICIPALITIES NOT
PAYING TAXES TO THE COUNTY? >> THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SET UP THEIR OWN CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT WHERE THEY CAN HAVE THEIR OWN HISTORIC BOARD AND THEIR OWN BUDGET.
IF YOU TAKE AWAY MONEY FROM THE $7,500 BUDGET THAT YOU HAVE TO COMMEMORATE MARKERS IN THE UNINCORP. RATE COUNTY, YOU ARE TAKING AWAY FROM THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY WHICH YOU SERVE TO MARK THINGS IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
WHERE THEY COULD DO IT THEMSELVES.
>> BUT ALL THOSE PEOPLE PAY TAXES TO THE COUNTY.
THEY PAY TAXES. >> THEY ALONE DO NOT GET ANY ASSISTANCE FROM THE COUNTY? BEING EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING THE TAXES. PROBABLY MORE OF THEM.
>> IF THEY PROVIDED THE FUNDING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, YOU COULD PROVIDE YOUR SERVICES AS THE HIS OR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION
BOARD ON WORKING ON THAT MARKER. >> TO ASK THE COMMISSIONERS TO
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RECONSIDER HOW MEMORANDA OF UNDERSTANDING COULD BE REACHED.WITH THOSE MUNICIPALITIES. SO THEY AND THEIR CITIZENS COULD GET A FAIR SHARE OF CONSIDERATION FROM THE COUNTY?
>> YOU ARE WELCOME TO ASK THEM AT A BOARD MEETING OR SEND A LETTER IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK THEM.
>> IT DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE ANY LOGICAL SENSE OR JUSTICE TO ME TO HAVE THIS SUDDENLY PUT IN THE WAY OF US GOING AHEAD WITH THESE
SIGNS. >> IT IS JUST THAT THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES THAT DO HAVE THEIR OWN HISTORIC COMMISSION SET IN PLACE. OTHERS THAT DON'T.
IF YOU TAKE IT AWAY FROM ONE, HOW CAN YOU GIVE IT TO ANOTHER? THAT IS WHERE IT BECOMES, I THINK, SKEWED.
IF THERE IS ONE INCORPORATED AREA, THAT WE WOULD BE GIVING FUNDING TO, AND THEN WE DON'T TO ANOTHER, JUST BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE AN ORGANIZATION IN PLACE, IT DOESN'T SEEM FAIR
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE COUNTY COME UP WITH AT LEAST A MODEL FOR WHAT AN MOU WOULD LOOK LIKE THAT WE COULD THEN INVITE TH THOSE-- WHAT-- THREE UNINCORPORATED AREAS IN THE COUNTY OR MAYBE THERE ARE MORE RIGHTNOW.
TO BE PARTY TO THIS: >> AND IF THAT IS WHAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WISHES TO DO, WE CAN PURSUE THAT.
WE CAN ASK THE QUESTION. I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY THE ASSISTANT COUNTY MANAGER THEY WOULD NEED TO BRING MONEY FOR THE MARKER AND GET BOARD APPROVAL AS WELL AS PROVIDE AN AGREEMENT THAT THE MUNICIPALITY THAT THIS MARKER WOULD BE LOCATED IN MEETS THEIR APPROVAL. I MEAN, WE DON'T DO WORK INSIDE THE CITY OF GREEN COVE SPRINGS. WE DON'T DO WORK IN KEYSTONE.
WE DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY TO DO WORK IN THOSE AREAS.
WE ARE THE UNINCORP. RATE PART OF THE COUNTY.
>> WE HAVE MORE AREAS, AS FAR -- >> THE LIST YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, THE ONES THAT WERE PAID F FOR, THERE IS ALL OF FIVE THAT I BELIEVE WERE PAID FOR BY THIS HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS.
THAT WOULD BE THE ORANGE PARK ONE.
LISTS YOU AS THE SPONSOR. OR LISTS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD. THE DR. APPLEGATE HOUSE.
THE KEYSTONE INN IN KEYSTONE. >> IT IS NOT INCORPORATED.
IT IS OUTSIDE OF THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.
IT IS IN ONE OF THE JURISDICTIONS IN ONE OF THE CITIES. AND THEN THE AUGUSTA SAVIDGE MARKER. THE REASON THIS LIST IS PUT TOGETHER AND THAT DISCUSSION CAME UP LAST MEETING BECAUSE I RAISED THE QUESTION AS TO WHETHER IT WAS APPROPRIATE THAT THIS BOARD WOULD BE SPENDING THEIR BUDGET ON MARKERS THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE JURISDICTION OF THIS BOARD.
AND SO THE ANSWER I GOT WAS THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE SPENDING-- YOU SHOULD NOT BE SPENDING MONEY ON MARKERS OUTSIDE THE
JURISDICTION. >> WHEN I LOOK OVER WHAT APPEARS TO BE OUR CHARTER, YOU KNOW, SECTION 12 AND SO FORTH, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT SAYS WE CAN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH
INCORPORATED AREAS. >> THAT WAS THE DECISION THAT WAS PRESENTED BASED ON THE INTERPRETATION OF THE CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE AND THE JURISDICTION WHICH THIS BOARD IS APPOINTED AS A FUNCTION OF BEING A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT. THAT IS AN AGREEMENT THAT WAS MADE WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA. IT MAKES YOU ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR GRANTS AND FUNDING, AND YOU ARE TO SERVE AS THE PROMOTER OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION IN THE COUNTY.
YOUR JURISDICTION IS THE UNINCORPORATED PART OF THE COUNTY. CITIES AND COUNTIES CAN ESTABLISH THEIR OWN. GREEN COVE SPRINGS COULD HAVE THEIR OWN CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
THEY COULD APPLY AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, ESTABLISH THEIR OWN BOARD, CREATE THEIR OWN BUDGET, AND DO THEIR OWN MARKERS WITHIN THEIR CITY. AS COULD KEYSTONE, THE TOWN OF
ORANGE PARK. >> WELL, THEN TO TAKE ABALTERNATIVE QUESTION, THEN. CAN WE NOT ASSIST THOSE ENTITIES OR PEOPLE FROM THEM IN HELPING TO EDIT OR REFINE, YOU KNOW, THE
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PROPOSED MARKER LANGUAGE? >> YOU COULD.
YOU CERTAINLY COULD. IT IS A QUESTION OF THE TIME.
IF THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT AND, YOU KNOW, IT PROBABLY WOULD REQUIRE THE BOARD TO AGREE TO ALLOW YOU TO DO THAT.
IT IS YOUR TIME. YOU CERTAINLY CAN DO IT ON YOUR OWN PRIVATE TIME OUTSIDE OF THIS BOARD.
THERE IS NOTHING STOPPING YOU FROM DOING THAT.
YOU HAVE THE EXPERTISE OF PUTTING TOGETHER MARKERS.
YOU CAN CERTAINLY HELP PEOPLE IN MUNICIPALITIES.
PENNEY FARMS HAS VERY LITTLE SUPPORT.
I'M SURE THEY WOULD ENJOY HAVING SOME ASSISTANCE.
>> GOOD. BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH FREEDOM TO ACT WITHIN THE DUTIES THAT WE SUPPOSEDLY HAVE AS A BOARD WITHIN THE TIME THAT IS REQUIRED TO GET THINGS DONE. YOU KNOW, EACH FISCAL YEAR.
FOR THESE PROJECTS. THEY COULD VERY WELL FAIL TO
MAKE IT THROUGH THE PIPELINE. >> WERE THERE ANY OTHER BOARD
MEMBER COMMENTS? >> I HAVE A COMMENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE DISCUSSIONS OF CHANGES IN LAWS EITHER AT THE STATE LEVEL OR AT THE COUNTY LEVEL BE TIME-LIMITED IF WE DISCUSS THEM HERE IN THE BOARD OR OTHERWISE, TAKE PLACE ELSEWHERE SINCE I DON'T SEE THAT IT MOVES OUR PROJECT ALONG, WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING HERE.
I DON'T SEE HOW IT BENEFITS THE WORK THAT WE ARE DOING.
>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IT IS NOW 6:40.
OUR MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.