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          >> ALL RIGHT, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WE WILL HAVE OUR INVOCATION THIS AFTERNOON BY COMMISSIONER CELLA. 
          >> PLEASE ARISE. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TO HELP US TO THE MEETING. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU TODAY ASKING FOR YOUR GUIDANCE, WISDOM AND SUPPORT AS WE BEGIN THIS MEETING. 
          HELP US TO ENGAGE IN A MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION, ALLOW US TO GROW CLOSER AS A GROUP AND NURTURE THE BONDS OF COMMUNITY. FILL US WITH YOUR GRACE, LORD GOD, AS WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT WILL AFFECT OUR RESIDENTS. AND CONTINUE TO REMIND US THAT ALL THAT WE DO HERE TODAY ALTHOUGH WE ACCOMPLISH IS FOR THE PURSUIT OF THE GREATER GLORY OF YOU FOR THE SERVICE OF OUR COUNTY. WE ASK THESE THINGS IN YOUR NAME, AMEN. 
          >> THANK YOU. OUR VETERANS LEAD PLEDGE TODAY I HAVE NOW BRUSHED UP ON MY ITALIAN I MAY NEED YOUR PRACTICE. BRING CORPORAL DOMENIC PANICCIA IS GOING TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. HE SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES RECORD FOR FOUR YEARS FOR LESS THAN 32 97 DURING HIS SERVICE HE WAS STATIONED IN SOUTH CAROLINA, NORTH CAROLINA AND CALIFORNIA. CORPORAL DOMENIC PANICCIA DOING THE MILITARY BECAUSE OF SOMETHING HE WAS WHAT TO DO TO SERVE HIS COUNTRY AND CHALLENGE HIMSELF BY JOINING THE MARINES. HIS SERVICE AS A CORPORAL TAUGHT HIM SELF DISCIPLINE, SELF-MOTIVATION AND HELP HIM TO OBTAIN HIS GOALS. HIS FAVORITE MEMORY IS BEEN STATIONED AT PARRIS ISLAND, SOUTH CAROLINA DURING BOOT CAMP. 
          CORPORAL PANICCIA CURRENTLY SERVES AS CLEARLY AS YOU CAN SEE IS THE ASSISTANT CHIEF OF PATROL WITH THE CLAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND IS PRESIDENT OF THE CLAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND HUMANITARIAN FUND. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME IN THE MILITARY, FOR CONTINUED SERVICE OR COMMUNITY INTRAVENOUS THIS AFTERNOON WE HOPE YOU WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE AND SAY A FEW WORDS. 
          >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          >> COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE I WILL BE VERY QUICK WHEN I GOT THIS CALL TO COME AND DO THIS I WAS VERY HONORED, VERY HUMBLED TO DO IT. I HAD A SHORT TIME IN THE MARINE CORPS COMPARED TO A LOT OF VETERANS WHO ARE WAY MORE DESERVING TO BE APPEAR THAN I AM. 
          LIKE THE COMMISSIONERS SAID, I THINK THE MARINE CORPS FOR WHAT I AM TODAY A LOT OF WHAT I AM TODAY SELF-DISCIPLINE, MOTIVATION, THAT DRIVE THAT GOT ME OUT OF THE MARINE CORPS AND RIGHT BACK INTO COMMUNITY SERVICE WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN MY 26TH YEAR. 
          I THINK YOU FOR HAVING ME ONCE AGAIN SEMPER FI HAVE A GREAT MEETING. 
          >> I WILL NOW CALL TO ORDER THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING FOR OCTOBER 24, 2023. 
          [PET ADOPTIONS]
LET THE RECORD REFLECT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT. AND WE WILL MOVE INTO PET ADOPTIONS. 
          >> OKAY OUR FIRST DOG TODAY IS NINA SPAYED FEMALE NEXT. FOUR YEARS OLD AND WEIGHS 64 POUNDS. NINA CAME TO US AS A SHY GIRL WAS NERVOUS TO COME DOWN FOR CATTLE WITH A LOT OF TREATS AND SWEETTALK SHE HAS MADE A COMPLETE TURNAROUND AND OUTLOOKS COMING OUT. SHE IS A DOG FRIENDLY BUT CAN BE BOSSY, SHE DOES ADJUST HER PLACE OUT OF THE OTHER DOG IS MORE LAID-BACK. SHE IS UP TO DATE ON HER VACCINES AND MICRCHIPS. COME MEET NINA TODAY. SECONDLY, WE HAVE ZACH A NEUTERED MALE MIXED BREED TWO YEARS OLD AND WEIGHS 62 POUNDS ZACH IS THE SWEETEST BOY VERY CALM IN HIS KENNEL AND VERY FUN-LOVING. HIS DOG FRIENDLY AND VERY HIGH-ENERGY SO BEST IN THE YARD AND ACTIVE FAMILY IS BEST FOR THIS BOY IS UP-TO-DATE ON VACCINE AND MICROCHIPS AND ALTHOUGH HE IS HEARTWORM POSITIVE HIS TREATMENT IS COVERED THROUGH THE COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES. OUR FIRST CAT TODAY IS A LITTLE BLUE NERD MALE DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR THREE MONTHS OLD. LITTLE BLUE IS SNUGGLY AND PLAYFUL. HIS FOSTER MOM. HE LOVES PLAYING WITH HIS BROTHER CHANCE AND THE TWO OF THEM HAD THE BIGGEST COMB-OVER'S HE IS UP-TO-DATE ON VACCINES BUT STILL NEEDS SOME BOOSTERS AND HE IS MICROCHIPS. AND NEXT WE HAVE CHANCE. 
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HE IS ANOTHER MALE DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR THREE MONTHS OLD CHANCE LIKE HIS BROTHER LITTLE BLUE IS SNUGGLY AND PLAYFUL HE LOVES PLAYING WITH HIS BROTHER AND WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A HOME WHERE THEY COULD GO TOGETHER. CHANCE IS UP-TO-DATE ON VACCINES BUT WILL STILL NEED SOME BOOSTERS AND HE IS MICROCHIPS. WE ARE STILL IN NEED OF) FOR DOGS, CATS AND KITTENS IS CONSIDER OPENING YOUR HOME TEMPORARILY JOIN OUR KITCHEN. 
          WE NEED FOSTERS AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED PLEASE CONTACT VISIT CLAY FOSTERS AT CLAY COUNTY .COM. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN HELPING OUR FURRY FRIENDS BUT CAN'T TAKE ONE HOME PLEASE LOOK AT YOUR AMAZON WISH LIST WE ARE ALWAYS IN NEED OF ITEMS FOR OUR KIDS AND SHELTER ANIMALS JUST GO TO AMAZON.COM. THAT CAN PLEASE HER PET ADOPTIONS. 
          >> IF MICHAEL COMMISSIONERS WOULD JOIN ME DOWN FRONT WE HAVE TWO PROCLAMATIONS. 
          >> FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE GOING TO COME OF THIS AFTERNOON I'M COUGHING BUT NOT CONTAGIOUS 
          [1.  Veteran’s Day (November 11, 2023)]
ON MY THIRD ANTIBIOTIC SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. I JUST WANT TO SCARE ANYONE AWAY. OUR FIRST PROCLAMATION THIS AFTERNOON IS FOR VETERANS DAY. 
          VETERANS DAY IS ELEVATED EACH YEAR ON NOVEMBER 11 WHICH IS PRIOR TO OUR FIRST NOVEMBER MEETING THAT'S WHY WE ARE CELEBRATING IT TODAY WE ARE HONORING IT TODAY. 
          WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE SOME OF OUR CLAY COUNTY HEROES AND HONOR THEIR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY WITH A PROCLAMATION. SO IF YOU CAN JOIN ME UP FRONT AND HAVE A LIST OF PEOPLE BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ON IT BUT IF YOU ARE WITH THE VETERANS COUNCIL COME ON UP. CLAY COUNTY VETERAN SERVICE OFFICERS AND IT SAYS WE WERE GOING TO HAVE CHRISTINA FROM CONGRESSMAN DEAN'S OFFICE. THERE YOU ARE I DID NOT SEE SLIP IN. WE THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND FOR BEING HERE THIS AFTERNOON. SQUEEZING AND COMMISSIONER RENNINGER WILL DO OUR PREPARATION FOR US. 
          >> CHIEF DOMINIC REMEMBER'S PARRIS ISLAND VERY FONDLY I AM SURE. 
          AS I REMEMBER PENSACOLA WHERE I WAS MET BY STAFF SRGEANT KATHY WHO IS A VIETNAM PURPLE HEART WINNER HE WAS VERY ENJOYABLE TO ME. WELL, IT CERTAINLY MY HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO READ THIS POPULATION. WHEREAS IN 1954, PRESIDENT DWIGHT D EISENHOWER CALLED ON ALL AMERICANS TO OBSERVE NOVEMBER 11 IS VETERANS DAY AND SAID, ON THIS DAY LET US SOLEMNLY REMEMBER THE SECOND PHASES OF ALL THOSE WHO FOUGHT SO VALIANTLY ON THE SEASON IN THE AIR AND ON FOREIGN SHORES TO PRESERVE OUR HERITAGE OF FREEDOM AND LET US RE-CONSECRATE OURSELVES TO THE TASK OF PROMOTING AN ENDURING PEACE SO THAT THEIR EFFORTS SHALL NOT BE IN VAIN. AND WHEREAS WE CAN NEVER FULLY REPAY OUR DEBT OF GRATITUDE TO THOSE HEROIC MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVED WERE WOUNDED OR DIED ON THE BATTLEFIELD WHILE DEFENDING OUR FREEDOMS IN THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES AND WHEREAS ON VETERANS DAY WE ARE REMINDED OF OUR SOLEMN OBLIGATION TO SERVE OUR VETERANS AS WELL AS THEY HAVE SERVED US AND TO COME TOGETHER TO HONOR AND MEMORY THE LEGACY OF PROFOUND SERVICE AND SACRIFICES THEY HAVE UPHELD. AND WHEREAS CLAY COUNTY SINCE THERE VETERANS AND VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS AND ENCOURAGES ALL CITIZENS TO SUPPORT OUR VETERANS BY DONATING, VOLUNTEERING, PARTICIPATING IN LOCAL VETERANS DAY ACTIVITIES HONORING THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE SACRIFICED SO MUCH TO PROTECT OUR GREAT NATION. 
          NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA HEREBY CONFIRMS BY HIS ACTIONS TODAY THAT OUR VETERANS DESERVE TO BE HONORED FOR THEIR COURAGE, STRENGTH AND DEDICATION TO SERVING THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 
          BEFORE THE RESULT OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FULLY SUPPORTS THE CAMP BLANDING MUSEUM STAFF AND THE RESULT TO HONOR THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR MILITARY FORCES AND THE FAMILIES WITH A VETERANS DAY SALVATION TO BE HELD ON SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 11, 2023. 
          DULY ADOPTED BY THIS BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA THIS 24TH DAY OF OCTOBER 2023. DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION AND A SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 
          >> AYE. 
          >> THOSE OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ANSELL IS NOT HERE IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE VETERANS COUNCIL SO YOU WILL ACCEPT IT FOR HIM? 
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          >> JOHN ROURKE CLAY COUNTY VETERANS COUNCIL. 
          >> SILVERS VFW BSO. 
          >> ERIC SEX OPERATION LIFELINE. 
          >> OPERATION PURPOSE. 
          >> JIM BARLOW CHAPLAIN OF THE VIETNAM VETERANS OF AMERICA FOR CLAY COUNTY. 
          >> BRIDGET CAREY CLAY COUNTY VETERANS SERVICE OFFICER MANAGER. 
          >> CLAY COUNTY VETERANS SERVICE OFFICER. 
          >> ERIC CAMP BLANDING MUSEUM. 
          >> PART OF 1059 VIETNAM VETERANS CHAPTER. 
          >> JOHN CHAPTER 1059 CLAY COUNTY. 
          >> JAMES OPERATION BARNABAS. 
          >> JORDAN OPERATION BARNABAS. 
          >> CHRISTINA FROM CONGRESSMAN DEAN'S OFFICE. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY LET'S SQUEEZING TO GET A PICTURE. 
          >> JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE THE POPULATION IS THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE VETERANS DAY SALVATION AT CAMP BLANDING ON APRIL 11, SATURDAY, APRIL 11 AT 1100. 
          >> IT WAS ME LAST MEETING. ALL RIGHT, OUR SECOND PROCLAMATION IS A TAD 
          [2.  Recognition of Nancy Keating for 50 years of service to Challenge Enterprises]
BITTERSWEET, BETTER FOR US PROBABLY VERY SWEET FOR HER BUT ANYWAY NO, SERIOUSLY. 
          WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE MS. NANCY KEATING. WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE A SPECIAL MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO DEDICATED 50 YEARS OF HER LIFE SERVING OTHERS. 
          NANCY KEATING CEO OF A CHALLENGE AND PRICES OF THE FLORIDA COME ON UP AND ANYONE YOU WANT TO COME WITH YOU. PLEASE JOIN US. OUR SOME OF THEM BEING UNWANTED OUTSIDE, THEY'RE ALL IN? OKAY. TWO COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER COMPERE LEFT IS NANCY KEATING TO CEO OF CHALLENGE ENTERPRISES OF NORTH FLORIDA. 
          LEADERSHIP CHALLENGE ENTERPRISES HAS GONE INTO MAJOR ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT PROVIDES RESOURCES FOR FAMILIE , LIFE IN THE JOB SKILLS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR MEANINGFUL EMPLOYMENT AND A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE FOR HUNDREDS OF LIVING WITH UNIQUE ABILITIES IN THE CLAY COUNTY IN THE NORTH FLORIDA REGION. WE UNDERSTAND WE HAVE HEARD A RUMOR THAT YOU ARE RETIRING SOON AND CONFIRMED THAT IT'S TRUE. 
          WE WANT TO WISH YOU THE VERY BEST AND COMMISSIONER CELLA WILL READ YOUR POPULATION. 
          >> MY PLEASURE TO READ THE PREPARATION FOR THE BOARD. WHEREAS NANCY KEATING'S LIFETIME OF SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY BEGIN IN 1973 WITH THE DREAM OF PROMOTING THE POWER OF PEOPLE AND POSSIBILITIES FOR INDIVIDUALS LIVING WITH PHYSICAL, INTELLECTUAL AND DEVELOP MENTAL DIFFERENCES AND WHEREAS A CHALLENGE ENTERPRISES GRASSROOTS BEGINNING WAS THE INSPIRATION OF 33 CLAY COUNTY RESIDENTS WANTED TO HELP IDENTIFY PEOPLE NEEDING SERVICES, PROVIDE RESOURCES FOR FAMILIES AND EDUCATE OTHERS ABOUT THE VALUE OF PEOPLE LIVING WITH DIFFERENCES. WHEREAS UNDER KEATING'S LEADERSHIP CHALLENGE ENTERPRISES IS GOING TO A SOCIAL ENTERPRISE EMPLOYEE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE IN MULTIPLE COUNTIES WORKING ON LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL CONTRACTS SUPPORTING PRIVATE INDUSTRY LEARNING A REPUTATION AS A CONTRACTOR THAT PERFORMS. 
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AND WHEREAS KEATING'S BELIEF THAT EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE HAS LED TO 50 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE AND IN 2023, CHALLENGE ENTERPRISES CELEBRATED 242 EMPLOYEES WHO GAIN CAREER SKILLS AND OPPORTUNITIES ALLOWING THEM TO EARN $3.1 MILLION IN WAGES AND PROVIDE 2700 HOURS OF VOLUNTEER SERVICES TO LOCAL NONPROFITS VALUED AT MORE THAN $80,000. AND WHEREAS KEATING'S DECADES OF SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY ALSO INCLUDES CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED BOARD, BUDGET ADVISORY AND CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEES AND SERVICE TO COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING CLAY BEHAVIOR HEALTH, CLAY COUNTY HOSPITAL AUTHORITY NOW KINDRED HOSPITAL, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, COUNCIL ON AGING AND A ROTARY AMONG OTHERS. 
          WHEREAS KEATING ONLY RECEIVED MANY HONORS FOR HER WORK INCLUDING ROTARY AN AMAZING CITIZEN OF THE YEAR, ROTARIAN OF THE YEAR AND THE CELEBRATE CLAY EXTRAORDINARY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR SHE WAS NAMED WHEN THE JACKSONVILLE BUSINESS JOURNALS WOMEN OF INFLUENCE AND EARNED THE ROOT YOUNG LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD AND TO LUIS HUNTLEY PACESETTER AWARDS AND WHEREAS THE TIRELESS EFFORTS OF KEATING ALONG WITH FAMILIES, BUSINESSES, CHURCHES, CIVIC GROUPS, STAFF AND INDIVIDUALS THAT SERVE CLAY COUNTY HAVE CREATED ANNOUNCING COMMITTEE RESOURCES THAT HAS DRAMATICALLY IMPROVED THE LIVES OF PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT ABILITIES EMPOWERING THEM TO KNOW THEY ARE VALUED MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA DECEMBER RECOGNIZE NANCY KEATING CEO CHALLENGE ENTERPRISES FOR INCREDIBLE COUNTRY VISIONS TO OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH 50 YEARS OF SERVICE TO CHALLENGE ENTERPRISES OF NORTH FLORIDA. DULY ADOPTED BY THE BOARD CLINIC COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA THIS 24TH DAY OF OCTOBER I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          MOTION AND A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY CLAY COUNTY. 
          >> AYE. 
          >> ALL RIGHT, THERE IT IS, NANCY KEATING THAT'S HER PROCLAMATION. 
          >> INHIBITED THE VISIT. IT WENT BY QUICKLY. WHAT A PRIVILEGE TO WORK IN A CLAY COUNTY. CAN'T SAY ANYTHING BETTER IT'S THE PEOPLE OF CLAY COUNTY THE MIDDLE OF THIS FAMILY. THANK YOU. I AND KATIE VINEYARD THE CHIEF OPERATIONS OFFICER'S CHALLENGES FRANCIS NANCY HARVEY IN 19 ONLY ONE AND HAS TRAINED ME UP AND IS GIVING ME THE ROMANS JANUARY 1. THANK YOU, NANCY. 
          >> ALL RIGHT I BELIEVE THE ONLY ONE OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS WHO IS HERE THIS AFTERNOON IS HER SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS CHRIS, DID ANYTHING PYOU LIKE TO BE TO BRING TO US ASSAULTED? THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. DID HE SAY GOOD ALL, WE NEED TO SAY THAT ON THE RECORD. THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT, NEXT IS OUR APPROVAL 
          [APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
OF MINUTES. 
          >> WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 10. 
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          >> SECOND. 
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY 
          SAYING AYE. >> AYE 
          >> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. NEXT, WE ARE AT OUR FIRST 
          [PUBLIC COMMENTS]
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WE WELCOME PUBLIC COMMENT. MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY CAN COME AND THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO DISCUSS ANY ITEMS YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH US. WE HAVE, LET'S SEE, FOR PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS THIS AFTERNOON. OUR FIRST ONE IS VIVIAN. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON VIVIAN KEYSTONE HEIGHTS, FLORIDA. I BELIEVE CHAIRMAN CONDON HAS PASSED OUT THIS CONFIRMATION TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. 
          AND COUNTY MANAGER. THIS IS BASICALLY GUARDING THE CLEARING OF LAKE GENEVA YOU KNOW IF YOU GOT UP AND DOWN HIGHWAY 21 YOU SEE IN THE GROUND BLACK CREEK IS SCHEDULED TO FINISHED NEXT FALL. WATER WILL START FLOWING INTO THE LAKE BROOKLYN LAKE BROOKLYN IS UP TO 108 ELEVATION AND CLOSE TO 115 WAS POST HEAVY WET WINTER AND GOING TO GUESS. 
          THE GET INTO SOME KIND OF CRUNCH TIMELINE WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS WORK DONE AT THE TIME THE WATER STARTS FLOWING FROM BROOKLYN INTO GENEVA. SO I WOULD SAY THAT WE PROBABLY HAVE 2 TO 2 AND A HALF YEARS TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT THIS PROJECT AND GET IT DONE. 
          I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER CONDON COMING OUT WITH A COUPLE OF THE ST. JOHN'S DISTRICT LAND MANAGEMENT FOLKS AND WENT RIDING AROUND THE LAKE BED. WE BELIEVE AND AS THEY DO THAT THERE IS ENOUGH TIMBER ON THIS LAND TO ACTUALLY FUND THE MAJORITY OF THE EFFORT. 
          SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS A LAKE. THAT HAS BEEN A DRY FOR SO MANY DECADES THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A FOREST GROWING WHERE WATER SHOULD BE. 
          WHEN A BLACK CREEK COMES IN THOSE FORESTS WILL BE UNDERWATER. 
          THIS WILL CREATE A SIGNIFICANT HAZARD PROBABLY ALSO SOME WATER QUALITY ISSUES. 
          SO WE ARE LOOKING, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST WILL BE, WE BELIEVE, LIKE I SAID, WE WILL HAVE A FUNDING FROM ACTUALLY HARVESTING THE TREES BUT I ALSO TALKED WITH REPRESENTATIVE PAIN WHO IS URGING ME TO TALK WITH YOU ALL ABOUT SEEKING SOME APPROPRIATIONS FROM THE STATE. 
          SO I'M HERE TODAY TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING ON IT AND WE WILL APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS, THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, OUR NEXT PUBLIC COMMENT IS MARK. 
          FROM LAKE ASBURY. 
          >> GOOD EVENING, MARK. I LIVE IN THE LAKE ASBURY AREA. AND THERE IS A NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT IS BEING PLANTED ON LAKE ASBURY DRIVE IT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED IDLY BY RICHLAND. 
          ONE OF THE CONCERNS I'M EXPLAINING WE HAVE OUT THERE IS THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC IT'S GOING TO CREATE. THE ROAD THERE ARE NOT REALLY SUFFICIENT TO HANDLE THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC THAT WILL BE RESULTING FROM THIS AND FROM OTHER FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA. AND THEY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT IS HOW IS TRAFFIC GOING TO BE HANDLED GETTING ONTO HANLEY ROAD? RIGHT NOW, THE TRAFFIC IS SUCH THAT THERE IS LONG WAITS TO MAKE A RIGHT OR LEFT TURN AND IT'S GOING TO BECOME DANGEROUS AS THAT IS PRETTY MUCH A DRAGSTRIP. IT'S A COUPLE MILE-LONG DRAGSTRIP. I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE OTHER ROADS THAT INTERSECT AT HANLEY ROAD BUT THAT IS GOING TO BE A MAJOR TRAFFIC JAM PROBLEM. ADDITIONALLY, THE LOCATION OF THE ROAD POTENTIALLY IMPACT WATER QUALITY THAT FLOWS INTO LAKE ASBURY. THERE ARE PARTS OF THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT THE WAY IT IS SITUATED NOW ACTUALLY FLOWS UPHILL INTO THE LAKE ASBURY NORTH DAM. AND THE OUTLET IS RIGHT THERE BY THE DAM SO THERE'S POTENTIAL IMPACTS THAT REALLY NEED TO BE CONSIDERED BEFORE ANY APPROVAL WAS MADE IN TERMS OF WHERE THE WATER IS GOING, THE WETLANDS IN THE AREA AND THE IMPACT ON THE DAM BECAUSE THAT'S A VERY SENSITIVE AREA AND THAT DAMN AS YOU KNOW IS UNDERGOING PLANNING FOR RECONSTRUCTION FOR 
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RETROFITTING AND REPAIRS. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION, THANK YOU. 
          >> OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE SHARON MANLEY. 
          >> ALL RIGHT, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? MY NAME IS KATE MANLEY I LIVE AT 420 WESLEY ROAD I'VE BEEN ON LAKE ASBURY FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS NOW. 
          I AM NOT OPPOSED TO GROWTH, UNDERSTAND IT'S NECESSARY. BUT I SUPPORT SMART GROWTH. 
          WHICH IS NOT WHY I APPROVE THE LAKE ASBURY NEW DEVELOPMENT ASBURY HAMMOCK. 
          THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT BY TOM YANKEE, DARREN AND SUSAN FRAZIER. 
          THE 739 DEVELOPMENT. THE HOMES ON THE SIDE OF THE FAMILY ROAD ALL ARE VASTLY DIFFERENT THOSE ON OUR SIDE OF HANLEY ROAD. FROM THE PROPOSED LAKE ASBURY HAMMOCK THE CURRENT DESIGN FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT LOOKS MORE LIKE ASBURY TOWNSEND, GLENHAVEN OR ANY OF THE SMALL COMMUNITY HOMES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HANLEY ROAD. 
          WHERE THE LOT SIZES ARE MUCH MORE SMALL THAN WHAT WE HAVE. THE COMMUNITIES ON THE SAME SIDE OF HANLEY ROAD AS ASBURY CANNON AND LIKE ASBURY'S ARE LAKE ASBURY COMMUNITY OF ABOUT 850 HOMES. THE HOMESITES BEHIND IT ON WINCHESTER AND COURT AND PAUL THOSE ARE ALL WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE PROXIMITY THE OTHER COMMUNITIES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HANLEY SUCH AS ASBURY TRACE TEMECULA COURT AND KELLY LANE. THE SEMINAL VILLAGE COMMUNITY ALL OF THOSE ARE ON THAT SIDE OF HANLEY ROAD. WE ALL HAVE LARGE ACREAGE PROPERTIES. WE PROBABLY AVERAGE 1 TO 3 ACRES. 
          SOME HAVE A LOT MORE AND SOME HAVE A LITTLE LESS ONE THING WE HAVE IN COMMON IS OUR LARGE LOTS ARE SEPTIC TANKS AND NON-DEVELOPER BUILD HOMES. I PARTICIPATED IN THE MAKING OF THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITY, I WAS THERE. I ATTENDED THE MEETINGS AND SEVERAL OF THE REVISIONS. I KNOW THE INTENT OF CLAY COUNTY CITIZENS THAT VOLUNTEER THEIR PERSONAL TIME, PROVIDED FEEDBACK TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PLAN, I WAS THERE. 
          THE INTENT OF THE LACK ASBURY MASTER-PLANNED AS WAS PRESENTED TO US WAS TO PROTECT THE HOMEOWNERS FROM URBAN SPRAWL. WITH THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER-PLANNED PLANT GROWTH WILL OCCUR IN A MORE ORDERLY AND ATTRACTIVE WAY THAN A PIECEMEAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD NORMALLY OCCUR IN THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER-PLANNED WILL HELP US TO PRESERVE DISTINCT CHARACTER OF THE AREA IN THE FACE OF THE FUTURE STEADY POPULATION GROWTH. 
          ARE YOU GOING TO USE THAT WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT OR WILL YOU PLACE IT IN THE TIME? THIS DESIGN DOES NOT PRESERVE THE CHARACTER OF OUR HOMES ON THAT SIDE OF HANLEY COURT. 
          I NOTICED ON THE CLAY COUNTY IT WORK WITH THE APPRAISAL CODED 170 HOMES BUT NOW THE DESIGN QUOTES 184 DISSOLVING THE MORE TOURING IS PLACED. THE ORIGINALLY LISTED ASBURY AREA ARE NOT OPPOSED TO THE POSSIBLE OF ASBURY HAMMOCK WHAT WE ARE POSTED IS ADDING DEVELOPMENT SO VAST AND DIFFERENT. I KNOW I'M UP BUT PUTTING A 75 FOOT IN A 50 FOOT WIDE LOT NEXT TO SOMEBODY THAT HAS AN ACRE AND A THREE ACRE IT JUST DOESN'T FIT. 
          >> THANK YOU, MS. MANLEY. VIVIAN DOUGLAS. 
          >> MY NAME IS VIVIAN DOUGLAS I LIVE AT 238 CIRCLE ROAD, CLAY COUNTY RESIDENT SINCE 1963 I AM 60 YEARS OLD I BOUGHT MY FIRST CHILD AND IT LAKE ASBURY AT 30 AND I HAVE BEEN THERE 30 YEARS. 
          I HAVE CHILDREN, MY CHILDREN, MY FIRST CHILD BOUGHT A HOME IN LAKE ASBURY. 
          I HAVE SOME A WETLANDS MAP WHICH YOU CAN GO TO FEMA AND IT SHOWS THE REASON WHY THERE WANTING TO PUT THE ENTRANCE ON LAKE ASBURY INSTEAD OF HANLEY BECAUSE THEY ARE SAYING ALL THE FRONTAGE OF HANLEY IS WETLANDS. IT'S NOT TRUE. YOU CAN GO ON FEMALES SITE MY MOTHER WORKED FOR GEOLOGICAL SURVEYS IS UP. 
          THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM TO PUT AN ENTRANCE THE ADDRESS IS REALLY 5600 HIGHWAY 739. 
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THIS ROAD NOT LAKE ASBURY DRIVE. SO WHY ARE WE PUTTING ENTRANCE IS ON LAKE ASBURY DRIVE? TO ME IS ALREADY ESTABLISHED THE COMMUNITY IS THE LAKES IT'S BAD ENOUGH THAT THIS SUBDIVISION IS QUICK TO FLOW INTO OUR LAKES AND FLOW INTO BLACK CREEK AND ITS GOING TO DO THE DAMAGES TO THE ANIMALS. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I KNOW SOME OF YOU PERSONALLY. I AM NOT GOING TO MENTION ANY NAMES BUT I THINK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I MYSELF DO A LOT OF SERVICE TO SCHOOLS AND OTHER THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY. I HAVE MY WHOLE LIFE I HAVE COACHED, NURTURED, HELPED FOSTER CHILDREN, I LOVE CLAY COUNTY. AND I DO NOT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. MY DAUGHTER IS 16 JUST STARTED DRIVING. 
          SHE CANNOT GOING TO HANLEY ROAD TO GO TO SCHOOL LAST WEEK AND ALMOST GOT HIT BY ONE OF THOSE LOGGING TRUCKS. SO DO TAKE THIS VERY PERSONALLY. 
          I KNOW IF ANY OF YOU LIVED IN LAKE ASBURY YOU WOULD TOO. I LIVE TOTALLY 500 FEET FROM WHERE THE SUBDIVISION IS GOING TO END. AND I KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO DO TO THAT LAKE. I GREW UP THERE. MR. RYAN THAT BUILT THE COMMUNITY WOULD HATE THIS AND DOCTOR SCALES HE WAS MY DENTIS . 
          HE WOULD NOT TILL THE DAY HE DIED TALK ABOUT SELLING THAT AND NOW HE'S GONE HIS CHILDREN, HIS CHILD AND GRANDSON PUT IT UP FOR SALE. I UNDERSTAND BUT DON'T PUT THE ENTRANCE ON LAKE ASBURY, PLEASE, DON'T LET THEM DO THAT TO US. 
          IT'S MORE ABOUT ME, YOU KNOW, I AM 60 IT'S ABOUT MY CHILD, SHE'S GOING TO BUILD A HOME THERE. IT'S MORE ABOUT THE CHILDREN, OUR GRANDCHILDREN, PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T DO THAT TO OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> THANK YOU. THERE IS NOTHING CHECKED ON THE NEXT TWO PARTS BUT ALLISON YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT PUBLIC, DID YOU? COME ON UP. 
          >> I APOLOGIZE IF I LOOK A LITTLE CRAZY I AM A SCHOOL TEACHER AND IT WAS WACKY TOURIST DAY. I AM TO LOOK CRAZY AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO STAY CALM AS WELL I LIVE IN LAKE ASBURY AND MY DAUGHTER IS A 17 AND SHE ALSO HAD THE SAME RUNNING WITH THE LOGGING TRUCKS. I AM ALSO VERY PASSIONATE AND TAKEN IS VERY PERSONAL. 
          GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS ALLISON AND I LIVE AT 350 LAKE ASBURY DRIVE. 
          THEY RECOGNIZE ME FROM PREVIOUS COMMISSIONERS MEETINGS AS WELL AS A FEW PLANNING AND ZONING MEETINGS. I LONG FOR THE DAY WHEN I CAN STOP LOSING SLEEP AT NIGHT BECAUSE I'M INVOLVED IN IT YET AGAIN ONE MORE FIGHT TO PRESERVE WHAT QUALITY OF LIFE WE HAVE LEFT IN THIS COMMUNITY. I AM HERE TO REQUEST AN ITEM BE ADDED TO ONE OF THE UPCOMING MONTHLY AGENDAS SO WE CAN FORMALLY DISCUSS IT ITEM I WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDED IS A DEVELOPMENT OF 5600 COUNTY ROAD 739 ALSO KNOWN AS THE PROPOSED LATE NEIGHBORHOOD LAKE ASBURY HAMMOCK ON THE CORNER OF LAKE ASBURY AND HANLEY ROAD. IT IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OUR COMMUNITY AND WE ALSO LIVE ON BLACK CREEK. I'VE LIVED HERE SINCE 2019 BUT MY HUSBAND GREW UP HERE. WE LIVE IN BETWEEN BOTH MY KIDS GRANDPARENTS ONE OF WHOM IS IN THE ROOM. AND ARE SURROUNDED BY NEIGHBORS THAT ARE DEAR FRIENDS. 
          THIS DEVELOPMENT CAME TO MY ATTENTION TO ME ABOUT A WEEK AGO WHEN I TURNED OUT LAKE ASBURY AND HANLEY IN A GIANT LOG TRUCK PULLED UP DRAGGING BEHIND A LONG TRAIL OF THICK MUD THAT COVERED THE ROADS IN THE PROPERTY AND THE ENTRANCE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I WAS APPALLED. IT DIDN'T TAKE MUCH TIME FOR ALL THE REMAINING JUST TO BE CONNECTED. WHY WAS IT SUCH A SURPRISE? I DROVE UP A TIME THAT ROAD DAY AND IT WAS NEVER ASSIGNED FOR PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING ABOUT THE PROPERTY. 
          TRULY A DEVELOPMENT OF THIS MAGNITUDE WAS SUCH AN IMPACT ON THE ROADS, ENVIRONMENT AND EXISTING POPULATION WOULD REQUIRE A MEETING WITH APPROVAL, RIGHT? NO, IT'S BECAUSE THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN WHICH WAS CREATED 17 YEARS AGO ALLOWS IT. 
          A PLAN WHICH WAS CREATED TO ENSURE THE PROPER DEVELOPMENT OF THIS AREA WAS THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION. A DEVELOPED AREA THAT CLAIMS TO SUPPORT OBSERVATION, WALKING AND BIKE FROM THE COMMUNITIES WITH SIDEWALKS, A NICE PLACE TO LIVE. 
          SINCE THEN, PLANS AND DEVELOPS GOING THROUGH WITH ALMOST NOTHING BUT EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY. THE PLANS IN QUESTION TODAY A GIANT NEIGHBORHOOD ON A SMALL PARCEL ONE OF THE FEW REMAINING NATURAL BUFFERS BETWEEN BLACK CREEK AND ALL THE LAKE ASBURY DEVELOPMENT WITH 170 OHMS. PROPERTY IS A ZONING TITLE OF A RURAL ONE. 
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FOUR HOMES PER NET ACRE THIS PART IS A TON OF WETLANDS TO PAY THE BUILDABLE ACRES IT'S 6.6 HOUSES PER ACRE. LOTS THAT ARE 50 FOOT WIDE BY 120 FOOT DEEP. 
          TO PUT THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE OUR EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS WOODED AREA IS 850 HOUSES WITH MOST PROPERTIES HAVE AN AVERAGE OF ONE HOUSE PER ACRE SOME ARE LARGER AND SOME ARE SMALLER BUT NONE OF THE HOUSES IN LAKE ASBURY OR EVEN ON THE SIDE OF HANLEY ARE ANYWHERE NEAR WHAT THEY PROPOSED. THE WORST PART IS IS PROPOSED. 
          AS ENTRANCES INSIDE OF OUR EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD NOT ONE SINGLE ACCESS POINT TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OURS. FIGURING CONSERVATIVELY THIS WOULD ADD AN ADDITIONAL 300 CARS ON THE ROAD WHICH IS A STRETCH OF LESS THAN HALF A MILE EVEN WITH THE LIGHT AT THE END I WILL STOP BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME THING EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT ONE OF THE LADIES MRS. SUSAN THAT'S ONE OF THE ADVISORS ON THAT HAS MET PERSONALLY WITH EACH AND EVERY RESIDENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND SHE KNOWS WE FEEL ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS AN ULTIMATUM WAS MADE BACK IN THE LAKE CLERK DEVELOPING CAME BEFORE YOU GUYS SO THIS WHOLE DEVELOPMENT IS BEING MADE IN BAD FAITH THAT'S A LESSON I WANT TO SAY. 
          >> THANK YOU. ROSS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK IN PUBLIC COMMENT? I AM SORRY I CAN'T READ YOUR LAST NAME. 
          >> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ROSS ALLUDED TO THE RETREAT AS VERY BEING MY WIFE MOVED OUT HERE RECENTLY FROM COLORADO AND ONE OF THE REASONS WE LEFT IS TO ESCAPE WANTON DEVELOPMENT THAT IS RUN THE QUALITY OF LIFE OUT THERE SO WHEN WE FOUND LAKE ASBURY FOUND OUR PARADISE. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT PARADISE IS TURNING INTO WHAT WE RAN AWAY FROM. I WILL REITERATE SOME OF WHAT PEOPLE SAID HERE BUT ADD IN THE APPRAISAL REPORT THAT WAS SENT OUT ON PAGE 8 AND SAID A TRAFFIC STUDY IS NOT REQUIRED I FIND THIS HIGHLY OBJECTIONABLE. LAKE ASBURY DRIVE COMING OFF OF HANLEY ROAD IS GOING TO BE IN INGRESS AND EGRESS. THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 170 OHMS WITH THE AVERAGE HOME HAS TWO CARS, RIGHT? AND IN THE MORNING WHEN THE, TO GET ONTO HANLEY TO GO TO WORK THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO THAT THEY ARE WANT TO BE CUTTING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          LAKE ASBURY DOESN'T HAVE SIDEWALKS IN ONLY. WE HAVE A MULTITUDE OF CHILDREN AND PEOPLE WALKING THEIR DOGS. SOMEONE WILL GET KILLED BECAUSE SOMEONE CAN'T GET OUT ONTO HANLEY THERE. WE ABSOLUTELY NEED HANLEY ACCESS FOR THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT THIS IS ON ACCEPTABLE AND DANGEROUS. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS THAT IN A LETTER WRITTEN FROM THOMAS YOUNG ONE OF THE DEVELOPERS HE WAS ADVISED ON OCTOBER 17 THAT THE SITE PLANS ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH RELATIVE CLAY COUNTY ORDINANCES IN THE 20/40 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH YOUR STAFF IS NOT ALLOWED OR AUTHORIZED TO DEVIATE FROM WE DEEPLY APPRECIATE IF YOU COULD FIND OUT WHY, WHY IT WAS DENIED AND WHERE WE ARE AT WITH THAT. THE QUALITY OF LIFE IS JUST GOING TO DETERIORATE SIGNIFICANTLY. IF WE HAD KNOWN ALL OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS COMING LIKE ONE OF THE LADIES SAID WE ARE NOT AGAINST PROGRESS IT'S INEVITABLE BUT LET'S BE SMART ABOUT IT. THIS IS NOT GOING TO LOOK AT 20 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE DOWNTOWN JACKSONVILLE. THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF OTHER CONCERNS STORMWATER RUNOFF, CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN WILDLIFE COMING THROUGH OUR YARD THAT WE'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE. 
          THIS ISN'T GOOD. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. DOCTOR JANET. PRETTY, DOCTOR JANET 242 BUSH COURT SPRINGS LAKE ASBURY. I'M ALSO THE LAKE ASBURY MUNICIPAL SERVICES ABOARD A TREASURER AS WELL AS HAVE A SEAT ON THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THINGS LIKE ASBURY DEVELOPMENT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE INGRESS AND EGRESS OF THIS NEW SUBDIVISION WAS NOT BROUGHT BEFORE THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. EXCUSE ME. 
          IF IT HAD BEEN WE WOULD HAVE DEFINITELY BEEN AT THE MINIMUM ASKING FOR TURNING LANES ON LAKE ASBURY DRIVE AS AN EXTREME A MINIMUM. BUT MY CONCERN REALLY IS THE RALPH THAT THIS IS GOING TO CREATE. WE VISUALLY WORKING ON THE DAMS WHICH IS NO SECRET TO ANYBODY AT THIS POINT THAT THE DAMS ARE HAZARDOUS THEY HAVE BEEN DETERMINED HIGH HAZARD DAMS I BELIEVE EVERYONE IS AWARE OF THAT. 
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AND AS THIS URBAN SPRAWL COMES TO US WE HAVE CONCRETE HAPPENING OF OUR LANDMASSES. 
          WE NO LONGER HAVE TREES AND SHRUBS WE HAVE CONCRETE AND WE HAVE DRIVEWAYS, PAVILIONS, HOUSES THIS RUNOFF IS GOING OFF INTO OUR LAKE IT IS DESTROYING THE LAKE WE ALREADY HAD ROADS THAT HAVE BLOWN OUT AND WE'VE ALREADY HAD TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF REPAIRS WE HAD TO DO TO OUR SOFT LIGHT DAMN BECAUSE OF THIS RUNOFF. YES, IT MAY STILL BE THE AMOUNT OF RUNOFF RUNNING INTO THE BASIN BUT WHEN THAT RUNOFF IS NOT ABSORBED BY TREES AND SHRUBS SUDDENLY YOU HAVE THIS HUGE INGRESS AND INFLUX OF WATER THAT IS DAMAGING AND DESTROYING. WE AS THE RESIDENTS HAVE CHOSEN TO TAX OURSELVES $2400 A YEAR IN ORDER TO FIX OUR DAMN PROBLEMS. AND AS SUCH WE ARE GOING TO NEED AND WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO JOIN HANDS WITH THE COUNTY IN ORDER TO FIX THESE PROBLEMS BECAUSE THE COUNTY IS CREATING SOME OF OUR PROBLEMS. NOW, WE DON'T WANT TO BE ADVERSARIAL AT ALL BUT WE DO WANT YOU TO KNOW AND BE AWARE OF PROBLEMS AND JOIN HANDS WITH US TO HELP FIX THIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING. 
          >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT OUR FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT? YES MA'AM, YOU CAN COME ON IT. THEN WE WILL NEED A CARD FROM YOU. TELL US YOUR NAME. 
          >> MY NAME IS TERESA MEYER I LIVE AT 637 COUNTY ROAD 214. 
          >> ACTUALLY MS. MEYER, HE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED DOLLAR GENERAL? YOU WILL HAVE TO WAIT THAT'S ON OUR 5 PM TIME CERTAIN IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR. 
          SO IF YOU AWAY. I DID NOT RECOGNIZE YOU BUT I KNOW WE SPOKE ON THE PHONE. 
          SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. YOU ARE FINE, YEAH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? ARE YOU COMING? 
          >> I LIVE IN LAKE ASBURY AND HIS PLANS FOR CONTINUED GROWTH. AS A HEALTHCARE PROVIDER SUPPORT GROWTH BUT I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE AT THIS MOMENT TO SUPPORT THE PLANT POPULATION. I KNOW FOR A FACT THERE ARE PANELS CLOSED IN PRIMARY CARE WE ARE NOT TAKING NEW PATIENTS THERE ARE OFFICES THEY ARE NOT TAKING NEW PATIENTS. 
          YESTERDAY AT WORK, I AM NERVOUS, I AM SORRY YESTERDAY AT WORK MY BOSS CAME IN AFTER THE WEEKEND SHE WASN'T CLAY COUNTY HER DAUGHTER ENDED UP IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM FACE PLANT SHE WALKED TO MY OFFICE AND SAYS THERE IS NOT AN AVAILABLE PEDIATRICIAN TAKING NEW PATIENTS IN THAT AREA. THAT'S A HUGE PROBLEM. NEUROLOGY, I SAT DOWN ON A DAILY BASIS IN A STRUGGLE TO FIND A NEUROLOGIST TO SEE PATIENT IN A CLAY COUNTY. 
          WE ARE HAVING TO SEND PATIENTS OUTSIDE OF CLAY COUNTY. THESE ARE AGES 45 TO 90 TRAVELING TO THE SOUTH SIDE JUST TO SEE A NEUROLOGIST. AS A HEALTHCARE PROVIDER I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PLANT GROWTH AND I BELIEVE IN GROWTH BUT I DO THINK OUR COMMUNITY IS READY TO TAKE ON WHAT IS PLANNED. PHARMACIES, OR PHARMACIES CLOSING IN LAKE ASBURY. MY PATIENTS SOME OF THEM HAVE COGNITIVE IMPAIRMENT, DRIVING FIVE MILES IS A BIG DEAL. WINN-DIXIE IS TURNING INTO ALL THESE WHERE IS HER PHARMACY GOING TO BE FOR OUR COMMUNITY? IF WE WERE TO HAVE ANOTHER PLAN T IF IT WAS IN FACT OUR AREA  AND NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES LIKE HEALTHCARE, PHARMACY, WHAT WE HAVE AS HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS FOR PATIENTS? AND THAT'S JUST WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE AVAILABLE RESOURCES IN THE FUTURE AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW. SIDEWALKS, PARKS, SCHOOL SYSTEMS I HOPE TO MAINTAIN THE SAME QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR CITIZENS NOW, THE ONES THAT PLAN TO ONE DAY BE IN OUR AREA. SORRY, THAT'S ALL. 
          >> THANK YOU. PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU FILL OUT. 
          >> I DID, SORRY I WAS NERVOUS. 
          >> CLEARLY, THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IN LAKE ASBURY THAT'S NOT ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT SO WE WILL NOT BE DISCUSSING IT BUT WE WANT TO THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER BURKE. 
          >> CAN I MAKE A COMMENT, PLEASE? MY REDSHIRT PEOPLE OUT THERE 
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KNOW WHO I AM. I FEEL THE SAME AS MANY OF YOU. I SEE ALL THE COMMENTS ON FACEBOOK. WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THAT. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE ANGRY. 
          MY FIRST YEAR IN OFFICE, YOU KNOW, I WAS A MOM, CITIZEN NEVER BEEN IN POLITICS. 
          ALL OF A SUDDEN, TREES START COMING DOWN OUTSIDE MY ROAD. I ALSO THE 16-YEAR-OLD OR THAT'S TURNED LEFT ONTO RUSSELL ROAD EVERY MORNING. TALK ABOUT BEING SCARED. 
          I KNOW THAT. I IMMEDIATELY FROM THE TIME I BEGAN MY TIME HERE BEGAN TRYING TO FIGHT IT. OKAY, IT'S NOT EASY. COUNTY STAFF THEY ARE AMAZING. 
          WE HAVE, I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT AND TRUST THAT THEY DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO HELP US. BUT THERE ARE THINGS THEY CAN'T DO. 
          DUE TO ORDINANCES, DUE TO CODES, DUE TO STATE LAW BUT BELIEVE ME I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GO AROUND IT. I'M BEING CREATIVE, VERY MUCH SO. THEY LOOK AT ME LIKE I'M CRAZY MANY TIMES BUT THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE, NO, WE DON'T WANT THIS GROWTH RATE NOW, WE CANNOT HANDLE IT. 
          THE ROADS ARE COMING, THEY ARE NOT HERE FAST ENOUGH. WE HAD A MORATORIUM IN PLACE FOR TWO YEARS NOW. HASN'T SLOWED DOWN I PRAY IT SLOW IT DOWN SOME. 
          THIS DOUBLE, YOU KNOW, IT DID NOT HAVE TO BE RESOLVED, DON'T NOT HAVE A YELLOW SIGN PUT IN FRONT OF IT. THEY CAN COME AND DO AS THEY PLEASE BECAUSE THIS WAS IN THE PLAN. I ASKED ALL OF YOU OR I ASKED SOME OF YOU TO SPREAD THE WORD THAT IT'S NOT IN PLACE YET IT'S NOT SET IN STONE SO JUST GIVE IT SOME TIME, TRY TO BE PATIEN . I UNDERSTAND WHENEVER YOU SEE THE TREES COMING DOWN AND THE WILDLIFE IS RUN ALL OVER, YOU KNOW, IS JUST MAKES YOU WANT TO PULL YOUR HAIR OUT AND CRY. 
          BUT, JUST WAIT, OKAY BECAUSE THE COUNTY IS WORKING ON IT. YES, THEY DID NOT DO THE CORRECT THING THE DEVELOPER DID NOT THEY DID NOT ABIDE BY THE RULES WHOEVER IT IS AND THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIX IT. WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO FIX IT. 
          THEY MAY OR MAY NOT, IT MAY NOT EVER HAPPEN BUT GIVE IT SOME TIME AND LET THE STAFF DO THEIR JOB, OKAY, AND JUST TRY TO KNOW I AM OUT THERE I AM CALLING THEM EVERY DAY, OKAY, TEXTING DRIVING THEM CRAZY FOR YOU ALL. OKAY, THAT'S MY JOB AND THAT'S WHY YOU ELECTED ME. 
          ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. IF YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          >> NO, NO, NO WE ARE NOT DOING PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE WILL BE ANOTHER ONE AT THE END OF THE MEETING. WE HAVE AN AGENDA THIS IS NOT ON THE AGENDA SO WE HAVE TO 
          [CONSENT AGENDA]
RESPECT WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA. MOVING ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. 
          ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS POLLS IS THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PULL? ASK I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. 
          >> ANY OTHER ITEMS? OKAY SO I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA WITHOUT ITEMS FIVE AND SEVEN. 
          >> SO MOVED. 
          >> SECOND. 
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY 
          SAYING AYE. >> AYE. 
          [5.  Subrecipient Agreement for American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) SLFRF Funds with Clay County Development Authority (T. Nagle/M. Mosley)]
          >> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. ITEM NUMBER FIVE ARE WE JUST DELAYING THAT TO A DIFFERENT AGENDA? PULLED NOT TO DISCUSS. 
          [7.  Request for approval of the County's acceptance of ownership of a portion of Plantation Oaks Boulevard from Middle Village Community Development District (C. Grimm)]
AN ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. 
          >> ITEM NUMBER SEVEN I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE ELEMENT OF ENHANCED LANDSCAPING. 
          HERE IS A PORTION OF THE ROAD LEADING UP TO THE ROUNDABOUT THAT WAS TO BE CONVEYED TO THE COUNTY WHICH WASN'T CONVEYED TO THE COUNTY A LONG TIME AGO. BUT THE DISCUSSION ABOUT ENHANCED LANDSCAPING. MY PROBLEM TODAY IS THAT TERM IS NOT IN THE AGREEMENT. 
          AND I KNOW MEMORIES ARE LONG BUT NOT VERY LONG, IN OTHER WORDS, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW WHEN THE COUNTY, THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IS TIRED OF MAINTAINING THAT ENHANCED LANDSCAPING ON THAT PORTION OF THE ROAD THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK TO THE COUNTY AND WE ACCEPTED IT AS IT IS AND I CAN MAKE AN ARGUMENT WE ACCEPT IT AS IT IS AND THEREFORE WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT AS IT IS. I WOULD LIKE SOME KIND OF VERBIAGE PUT IN THE AGREEMENT THAT ADDRESSES THE COUNTY WHEN SKIPPING PRIORITIES LANDSCAPING PRIORITIES DIFFERENT THAN THE 
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HOA'S IF THEY WANT TO MAINTAIN IT WITH ENHANCED MEASURES THAT'S FINE BUT THAT'S THEIR DECISION NOT THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE PUT THAT IN TO THE AGREEMENT ARE NOT. I AM ASKING STAFF. 
          >> SURE SO, THE ITEM IS TO ACCEPT THE DEED FOR THE CONVEYANCE BUT SEPARATE AND APART FROM THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE I CAN REACH OUT TO THE CED AND REQUEST THEIR JUST BE A SIDE AGREEMENT THAT SPECIFICALLY SPELLS OUT THAT IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO STEAMERS THAT THE COUNTY IS AMENABLE TO THAT BUT IT'S A HUGE TO NO LONGER DO THAT IT BE MAINTAINED BY THE COUNTY. 
          >> THE REASON I'M BRINGING THIS TO THE COMMISSION'S ATTENTION IS I HAVE ANOTHER CONSTITUENT OR ANOTHER HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION THAT HAS A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT ACTUALLY THE COUNTY OWNS AND THEY HAVE IMPLEMENTED ENHANCED LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS OR LANDSCAPING IN THAT PORTION AND THEY DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE IT BUT THEY WANTED THE COUNTY TO CONTINUE IT. SO THAT'S A HARD PILL TO SWALLOW AND I THINK THEY OUGHT TO KNOW AND WE OUGHT TO KNOW ANY NEW FUTURE TRANSFER OF PROPERTY THOSE SUBSIDIES SHOULD NOTE THAT WE DON'T DO ENHANCED LANDSCAPING. BUT I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW ANOTHER HOA WOULD LIKE US TO TAKE OVER THERE, WELL ACTUALLY, IT'S OUR PROPERTY TO IMPLEMENT ENHANCED LANDSCAPING. PROCEDURES SO, JUST SOMETHING I THINK WE OUGHT TO PUT IN WRITING WHAT WE ARE ACCEPTING AND WHAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR. 
          WITH THE ADDITION OF SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT WITH THE HOA IS THAT WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING? 
          >> NO, WELL, SO I THINK WHAT COURTNEY WAS SAYING THIS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS TO ACCEPT THE CONVEYANCE OF THE DEED. SEPARATELY, WE COULD HAVE HER BRING BACK SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT. 
          >> THAT'S FINE WITH ME. 
          >> IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING IN OUR POLICY THE COUNTY COULD EXECUTE. I WILL REACH OUT TO THE CDD BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING THAT YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF THE CONVEYANCE WOULD BE CONDITIONED ON THE AGREEMENT BEEN AGREED TO BY THE CDD. 
          >> WHICH THEY HAVE ALREADY AGREED TO ANOTHER LETTER. IT SHOULDN'T BE A LONG REACH FOR THEM. BUT IT WILL COMMIT THEM IN THE FUTURE 
          >> YES, I THINK UNDER WHEN HE BOARDED THE DOCUMENT FOR THE CONVEYANCE THEY ARE STATING THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE WITH THE ENHANCED BUT I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER RENNINGER 'S WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT IF THEY DECIDE TO NO LONGER PROVIDED THE ENHANCED THAT THE COUNTY WILL NOT MAINTAIN THAT STANDARD. 
          >> THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WANT TO ENFORCE OR ENCOURAGE. 
          >> IS THERE ANYONE WHO HAS CONCERNS OR ISSUES WITH THAT? OKAY IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          >> I WILL MOVE APPROVAL WITH THE ADDITIONAL COMMUNICATION WITH THE HOA FOR CDD. 
          WITH ABOUT THE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING. 
          >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER CELLA. 
          >> I THINK HAS BEEN CUSTOMARY TO DO THAT HAVING SERVED IN A CDD OR FOR YEARS I THOUGHT THERE WERE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE THAT IF YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN IT HIGHER STANDARD YOU ARE HELD THE CDD IS HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT AND THAT THE COUNTY DOES NOT TAKE CARE OF THAT. 
          ISN'T THAT COVERED WITH A SEPARATE AGREEMENT WITH THE OTHER CDS OR A CHOICE? 
          >> I AM NOT SURE. 
          >> I THINK IT IS I UNDERSTAND WITH THE COMMISSION IS GOING WITH THAT THOUGHT PROCESS. 
          THE NEIGHBORHOOD ESPECIALLY WITH THE CDS YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN A HIGHER LEVEL YOU CAN DO THAT BUT THEY ARE RESPONSE FOR DOING THAT THE COUNTY DOES NOT DO THAT. 
          SO SORRY I GO ALONG WITH THE COMMISSION. 
          >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. 
          >> AYE. 
          >> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. OKAY WE ARE AT DISCUSSION 
          [19.  FY23 Grants Management and Sponsorship Annual Report (M. Mosley/G. Biastre)]
UPDATES. FY 23 GRANTS MANAGEMENT AND SPONSORSHIP ANNUAL REPORT. 
          MEGAN IS STARTING AND THEN GEORGE WILL WRAP IT UP. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MEGAN MOSLEY WITH THE GRANTS DIVISION. OUR CURRENT GRANTS POLICY AND 
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SPONSORSHIP POLICY WE COME TO THE BOARD ONCE A YEAR TO DELIVER AN UPDATE ON HOW WE DID THE PRIOR FISCAL. BEFORE I GET STARTED I HAVE SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE GRANTS DIVISION TONIGHT IF THEY COULD JUST RAISE THEIR HANDS IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR TREND IS EFFORTS THIS YEAR FOR 20 WAS EVEN MORE PSUCCESSFUL THAN FY 22 FOR THE DEPARTMENT. REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HELP AS WELL AS HELP AND ASSISTANCE FOR OTHER COUNTY DEPARTMENTS, COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS CAN'T DO GRANTS WITHOUT THE COLLABORATION. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PRIMARY RESPONSE TO THESE WE HAVE THREE MAIN THINGS THAT WE DID. WE WRITE APPLICATIONS, WE SECURE NEW GRANT AWARDS. 
          WE MANAGE CONTRACTS COMPLIANCE AND REIMBURSEMENT OF REVENUE TO ENSURE THAT ANY OBLIGATIONS TO BECOME ACTUALLY DO COME BACK AS REVENUE. SO LOOKING AT APPLICATIONS, SORRY, WE CAN GO BACK. APPLICATIONS WE SUBMITTED 36 LAST YEAR OF THOSE 12 WERE STILL UNDER REVIEW. 12 WERE FUNDED, 12 OR UNFUNDED, THAT PUTS US CURRENTLY AT A 50 PERCENT SUCCESS RATE WITH APPLICATIONS. LAST YEAR, APPLICATIONS RESULTED IN $13 MILLION IN FUNDING THIS YEAR THEY RESULTED IN 19.7 MILLION THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE 4 AND A HALF ADDITIONAL MILLION THAT WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THE STATE THIS IS THE RESULT OF OUR APPROPRIATION REQUEST FROM LAST YEAR. 
          AS WE EXPECT TO SEE VERY SHORTLY. ADDITIONALLY, THE SON APPLICATION WE SUBMITTED LAST YEAR WE NOTICED AT DOT JUST PLAN TO ISSUE THAT AWARD FOR THE COUNTY FOR THE NEXT PHASE OF THE TRAIL EXPANSION. LOOKING AT THE COMPLIANCE FIGURE THERE THAT 6.1 MILLION THAT'S A DIRECT RESULT OF THOSE MONTHLY REPORTS, REIMBURSEMENT REQUESTS, THAT OUR COMPLIANCE TEAM DOES FOR US. LAST YEAR, IN TOTAL WE MANAGE CONTRACTS OF 84 MILLION THIS YEAR WE ARE AT 94 WITH THE ADDITION OF THAT THE TRAILS WILL BE WELL OVER 100 MILLION FOR FY 24. SO NOW WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. RETURN ON INVESTMENT THIS IS REALLY THE BOTTOM LINE. 
          LAST YEAR, TOTAL COST OF THE COUNTY FOR OPERATIONS OF THE GRANTS DIVISION WHICH WAS UNDER HALF $1 MILLION AND THEN THERE IS OUR REVENUE FOR LAST YEAR THAT IS A CULMINATION OF THOSE NEW AWARDS AND THAT REIMBURSEMENT REVENUE THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE CONTRACTS. 
          THAT PUTS US AT 861 TO 1 TOTAL ROI $61 FOR EVERY DOLLAR INVESTED BACK INTO OPERATIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT. ONE NOTE OPEN ON THE COST TO THE COUNTY AS WELL WE NEED ARE GRANT AGREEMENTS TO ALLOW US TO RECOUP ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS SO THAT COST IS ACTUALLY PROBABLY MUCH LOWER DEPENDING ON HOW THAT GETS DISTRIBUTED OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR. 
          SO LOOKING TO FY 24 OUR MAIN GOAL IS IN JANUARY TO ALIGN GRANTS THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AND STRATEGIC PLAN PRIORITIES. I THINK WERE STARTING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ARE SUCCESSFUL YEAR-OVER-YEAR FEELING THESE GRANT PROGRAMS BUT THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES REQUESTS WE WANT TO ALIGN STRATEGIC PLAN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 
          WE KNOW FROM WORKING WITH GRANTORS IN THE PAST THEY LOVE STRATEGIC PROJECTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF ORGANIZATION, THEY ARE BUDGETED, THEY HAVE COMMUNITY INPUT AND IS THERE SHOVEL READY RIGHT NOW THEY KNOW THE TIME DELIVERABLE IS ATTACHED TO THAT. THOSE REALLY ALL THE ELEMENTS WE NEED TO MAKE GRANT MAGIC FOR THE COUNTY. SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEW YEAR AND I WOULD JUST ASK IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON GRANTS BEFORE WE TRANSITION TO SPONSORSHIPS. 
          >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MEGAN? COMMISSIONER RENNINGER. 
          >> I JUST HAVE A COMMENT I THINK THE COUNTY IS DOING ANNUAL REPORT ALL THE DEPARTMENTS IN ONE ANNUAL REPORT. THE FIDELITY OF THE GRANT PERMIT WILL BE DISPLAYED IN THE ANNUAL REPORT I GUESS AFTER THE NEW YEAR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          >> ALL RIGHT, SO I WILL HIT IT TO GEORGE TO TALK ABOUT SPONSORSHIPS. 
          >> I'M SORRY SHE HAS SOMETHING. 
          >> I KNOW OUR RESPONSE APPEAR MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE UNDERWHELMING BECAUSE WE HEARD THIS ALREADY BUT CANNOT HIGHLIGHT ENOUGH THE EXCITEMENT OVER STATE $17 MILLION GOING TO GREENWAYS AND TRAILS THAT'S A BIG DEAL. AND IT SPEAKS TO THE REGIONAL EFFORT HAS BEEN MADE TO CONNECT THE COUNTIES. I KNOW THAT'S A REPRESENTATIVE GARRISON THAT'S HIS PROJECT, HIS BABY, AND FOR US TO BE A PART OF THAT IT REALLY IS A BIG DEAL AND HATS OFF TO THE GRANTS DEPARTMENT YOUR TEAM. WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT 
          [01:00:02]
BUT PUBLICLY, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR EFFORT TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION. 
          IT'S AWESOME. 
          >> I DON'T KNOW IF THE PUBLIC RECOGNIZES WHAT THAT IS BUT THAT TRAIL WILL CONNECT TO ALL COUNTY ALL THE WAY TO COLD HEADED RIDGE STATE PARK. 
          >> MORE TO COME ON THAT ONE WHEN I GOT THE EMAIL THAT EVENTUALLY AFFORDED TO THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS I OPENED UP THE EMAIL AND I SENT JOY AND COUNTY MANAGER A TEXT AND SAID IS THIS REAL? 
          >> IT'S REAL. 
          >> ANYTHING ELSE FOR MEGAN? 
          >> MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY JUST DOING SOME PUBLIC MATH 225,000 PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY AT $30 MILLION 30.2 IS $134 PER PERSON WE WANT TO THAT TO SET IN THOSE ARE TAXES NOT SPENT BY THE COMMUNITY. IF YOU DID BY PARCELS IS OVER $300 PER PARCEL, PARCEL OWNERS WITHIN THE COUNTY. THAT'S WHAT MEGAN AND HER TEAM ARE DOING. 
          >> GOOD JOB, MEGAN. 
          >> SUPERVISOR LEFT BUT YOU ARE AN OPTION AS WELL, IT'S A BIG DEAL. 
          >> ALL RIGHT, AND GEORGE. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON, GEORGE, SPONSORSHIP DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR FOR THE COUNTY. 
          JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF SPONSORSHIPS I STARTED IN FEBRUARY. 
          IN FEBRUARY, WE STARTED AN EFFORT TO FIND A FIRM TO GIVE US VALUATION ON THE ASSETS WITHIN THE COUNTY. WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE FIRM CALLED VICTOR'S ADVISORS OUT OF UTAH THEY DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF HELPING US DETERMINE WHAT POTENTIAL SPONSORSHIP VALUES WE HAVE FROM NAMING RIGHTS EXHIBIT ROOMS WERE LOOKING AT THAT MEETINGS THOSE LEADS HAVE TURNED AND BLOSSOMED INTO A LOT OF DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES THAT WERE STILL TALKING ABOUT. 
          SO THERE WAS AN EFFORT FOR ME TO HAVE A TOOL TO BE ABLE TO TRACK MY CONTACTS, I COME FROM A BACKGROUND OF SALES AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT SO CRM WAS NECESSARY, TOOK A LONG TIME TO FIND THAT. WE NEGOTIATED A NATIONAL FITNESS COURT WE ENDED UP GETTING A $30,000 GRANT FROM NSC TO THE FITNESS COURT PUT IN AT MOODY PARK. 
          WE HAVE THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE PAVILION IF ANYONE HAS BEEN BY THERE RECENTLY IT'S BEEN A FULL PAVILION THAT WEAKENS CONSTRUCTION HAS PUT UP THERE. IT'S HAVING ITS FINISHING TOUCHES I WAS OVER THERE THIS MORNING FINISHING TOUCHES PUT IN THERE. 
          SO WE DID THE RESEARCH, WE MADE THE SELECTION ON THE EVALUATION FORMS AND CRM SELECTION THAT'S ALL GOOD. NOW LET'S GET TO THE MEAT AND POTATOES, SPONSORSHIPS SURVIVE WITH A FITNESS COURT, WE GOT THAT IN PLACE AND THEN THEY TOUCH A TRUCK, ADOPT A MILE AND PLAY DAY ALL WE RAISED NOT RAISED IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD BUT RAISED CLOSE TO $50,000. 
          INCLUDING THEY TOUCH A TRUCK, ADOPT A MILE AND CLAY DATE EFFORTS. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? LOOKING FORWARD TO 23-24 WE ARE WORKING ON A WEBSITE FOR THE SPONSORSHIP THAT WILL BE ABLE TO GENERATE SOME REVENUE. WE WILL HAVE DONATION PORTALS FOR THE KEY DEPARTMENTS, ANIMAL SERVICES, PARKS AND REC, LIBRARIES, ETC. WHERE CITIZENS WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE CONTRIBUTIONS. WE ARE WORKING ON THAT NOW AND THEN WE HAVE THE NAMING RIGHTS, THE BIG TICKET ITEMS ARE NAMING RIGHTS FOR THE REGIONAL PARK, THE GUN RANGE IN THE FITNESS COURT AND THOSE ARE ALL IN PLACE RIGHT NOW. 
          SHOULD PROBABLY BE ABLE TO WRAP THOSE UP IN 24. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE VALUES WILL BE THEY ARE FORTHCOMING. 
          >> CRM STANDS FOR? X CONTACT RELATIONSHIP MANAGEMENT. 
          IT'S A TOOL FOR ME TO KEEP TRACK OF PEOPLE I WHEN I AND SCHEDULE A FOLLOW-UP CALL. 
          >> ARE YOU STILL TAKING SPONSORSHIPS FOR CLAY DAY? 
          >> ABSOLUTELY, THAT EFFORT HAS JUST BEGUN WE ARE STILL WORKING ON A NUANCED NUANCES FOR CLAY DAY BUT THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE ONGOING RIGHT NOW WE HAVE GOT A GROUP IN THE SPONSORSHIP DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT. LAURA AT THE EC AND MONTE WITH WG I ARE ON MY COMMITTEE AND WE ARE WORKING TO TRY TO MAKE CLAY DAY BETTER THAN IT WAS LESTER. 
          >> I HAVE A BUSINESS OWNER WHO TAUGHT ME A COUPLE WEEKS AGO BUT HE DID KNOW IF CLAY DAY IS SOMETHING HE SHOULD LOOK INTO SO UP WITH YOU IN TOUCH WITH THEM. 
          >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THE INTRODUCTION. 
          >> ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR MARK? 
          >> YOU HAVE SPECIFIC AREAS PEOPLE CAN DONATE TO? 
          >> WE DID, YES. 
          >> CAN YOU GO OVER THE BALL COURT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DONATE BUT COULDN'T BUT WHO 
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CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA WAY BACK WHEN. AND I WILL LET THEM KNOW. 
          >> IS THAT ONE OF OUR REGIONAL PARKS AND REC PROPERTIES? 
          >> WHEN DO YOU THINK IT MIGHT HAVE IT TOGETHER THERE? 
          >> OH, WE DON'T KNOW. THERE'S A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS INVOLVED YOU ARE TALK ABOUT THE WEBSITE PORTALS? THERE'S A LOT OF BACKEND WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE WE ARE WORKING WITH IIS, WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS, WORKING WITH LEGAL TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ALL THE T'S CROSSED AND EYES DARTED TO PUT THAT APPLY. THAT'S WHAT YOU TAKE A LITTLE WHILE THE WAGES. PROBABLY FIRST QUARTER, SECOND QUARTER NEXT YEAR TO HAVE 
          SOMETHING >> AND YOU WILL LET US KNOW? 
          >> THAT'S CORRECT. CITIZENS DO NOT HAVE TO WAIT IN ORDER TO GIVE. 
          ANIMAL SERVICES HAS TAKEN THE LEAD IN SHOWING CITIZENS OF THE CAN GIVE. 
          THERE PUT OUT SOME THREE OCCASIONS ON SOCIAL MEDIA DIFFICULT ACTION ON THEIR SITE THAT ALLOWS CITIZENS TO ADOPT AND CONTRIBUTE BY WRITING A CHECK, SEND IT TO OR DROPPING OFF AT THE ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICE. THE SAME KIND OF EFFORTS CAN HAPPEN IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL OR DESIRES TO MAKE IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE FOR CONSUMERS TO GIVE SAAVEDRA HAD TO LEAVE THEIR HOME TO GIVE TO THE CAUSES THAT THEY ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT. 
          >> HOW WOULD THESE PEOPLE DO THAT FOR THE PICKLE BALL COURT? X CONTACT ME. 
          >> NUMBER? 
          >> 904-837-5653. 
          >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER CELLA. 
          >> LIKE WE DO WITH MEGAN AND THE GRANTS DIVISION STARTED OUT WITH MEGAN AND GREW FROM THERE AND AS PART OF THE GRANTS WE TAKE AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE TO MANAGE THOSE GRANTS. 
          WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT POSSIBLY DOING THE SAME THING GEORGE'S SPONSORSHIPS AND DUTY AND HAVING A PERCENTAGE AS ADMIN FEE IN THE CAN WORK THAT OUT WHICH IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO WITH GRANTS. BECAUSE GEORGE WILL BE BY HIMSELF TOO LONG IN THE FUTURE BEFORE THIS OVERCOME SOME IN TERMS OF JUST THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE AMOUNT OF BUSINESSES THAT PROBABLY WILL WANT TO GET INVOLVED AND WE THINK THEY WILL SO THAT WEEK IS THE IS THE OVERSPENDING TO ACTUALLY RUN THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASPECT OF IT AND WILL HAVE TO MANAGE BECAUSE OF RECENT ASPECTS SPONSORSHIPS AND DONATIONS TO TAKE CARE OF ON A REGULAR BASIS SO THOSE ADMIN FEES. ACTUALLY SPONSORSHIPS AND DONATIONS CALLING SOME THAT MONEY ASIDE THAT WILL BE NEEDED TO BE DONE. BECAUSE HE WILL BE LONESOME GEORGE TO LAW IN THE FUTURE. JUST LONESOME GEORGE. 
          >> WHEN HE GAVE OUT HIS PHONE NUMBER I SAID NUMBER POST, PLEASE. 
          IT'S ON THE BACK OF THE PRESENTATION WHICH WE PART OF THE MINUTES SO IF YOU DO NOT CATCH THAT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR GEORGE OR FOR MEGAN? GREAT PRESENTATION. IT'S ON THE SCREEN. GREAT PRESENTATION, THANK YOU. 
          [20.  Regional Sports Complex Road Name (D. Hane/L.Christmas)]
OLD BUSINESS. REGIONAL SPORTS COMPLEX ROAD NAME. 
          DEAN. 
          >> DO YOU WANT TO SWITCH TO 5:00 PM? 
          >> WE ARE 5:08 PM SO DEAN, BUCKLE YOUR SEAT NO, WE ARE MOVING ON. 
          TWO 5 O'CLOCK TIME SERMONS I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. IN JUST ONE ITEM OF HOUSEKEEPING. MRS. STANLEY, YOU WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PROPOSED DOLLAR GENERAL, CORRECT? OKAY I THOUGHT SO THAT'S ITEM 24. 
          IT'S OKAY. EVERYBODY ELSE MARKED IT AS 24 BUT YOURS IS SAID 23 SO I JUST 
          [23.  Public Hearing to consider adoption of COMP0723-00008 and PUD-0723-00009. (District 4, Comm. Condon) (B. Carson)]
WANTED TO CHECK. I THOUGHT YOU WERE 24 BUT I RECOGNIZED YOUR NAME I JUST WANT TO MARKET. ITEM NUMBER 23. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF COMP 0723-00008 AND PUD ASSOCIATED WITH IT. 
          >> THAT'S CARSON PLANNING AND ZONING DUE TO A PUBLIC COMMISSIONER WE ARE REQUESTING THIS BE CONTINUED TO THE NOVEMBER 28 MEETING AS VERIFIED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 7 AND FOLLOW THEIR MEETING ON THE 28TH. 
          >> AND THE APPLICANT IS AWARE AND ON BOARD WITH THAT? 
          >> THEY ARE. BUT BECAUSE WE ADVERTISED IT IS TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
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          >> YOU WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT AND READ THE MOTION. 
          >> AND THIS IS EIGHT REZONING, I THINK WE SHOULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT MORE DETAIL ON OUR ITEMS OF WHAT THEY ACTUALLY ARE VERSUS NUMBERS IF THAT CAN BE AN IMPROVEMENT. 
          THAT YOU COULD TAKE BACK. THIS IS PROPOSED CHANGE THE MIDDLEBURG CLAY HILL AREA. 
          >> THIS IS A MOMENT FOR THE IMC CONSTRUCTION DEVELOPMENT THEY ARE PLANNING ON 15. 
          AND THEY ARE REQUESTING TO EXPAND THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. 
          THE AMENDMENT AND REASON. 
          >> THANKS, I WILL OPEN PUBLIC HEARING IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE PROPOSED REZONING AND COMP PLAN ON THEM FOR THE IMC MECHANICAL CONTRACTOR ON A LANDING BOULEVARD? IF YOU ARE NOT COME BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION IN A NOVEMBER AND BCC AT THE END OF NOVEMBER. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL BRING IT BACK TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CONTINUE. 
          >> MADAM CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO NOVEMBER 28 MEETING. 
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND TO BE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. 
          >> AYE. 
          [24.  Public Hearing to consider COMP 0823-0009 and ZON 0823-00018. Dist. 4, Commissioner Condon. (M. Brown)]
          >> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. 5-0. 
          ITEM NUMBER 24 THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER COMP 0823-000 NINE AND THE ZONING THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT. 
          >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR, THIS APPLICATION IS BY DAVID AND KIMBERLY HOWARD HAS BEEN REPRESENT PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN CASE IN CIVIL ENGINEERING. THEY HAVE RETAINED MARCUS KIRBY AS LEGAL REVISITATION AND HE HAS EXHIBITED VIA EMAIL AND IS ALSO HERE TO REQUEST TO DEFER THIS ITEM TWO NUMBER 28. 
          >> THIS IS A PROPOSED DOLLAR GENERAL ON STATE ROAD 100 AND KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. 
          >> I AM PREPARED TO DO THE PRESENTATION AND BRINGING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION. 
          >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ITEM I DON'T KNOW IF HE A MOTION TO DO THAT. 
          I HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE SPEAKERS HERE. 
          >> THE MATTER CAN PROCEED FORWARD UNLESS WE DID A MOTION TO CONTINUE. 
          >> REGARDLESS YOU NEED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          >> DO I TAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING OR AFTER? 
          >> WE HAVE TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING REGARDLESS. MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PUBLIC HERE. 
          >> GO AHEAD WITH THE PRESENTATION THEN. 
          >> THIS IS A REQUEST WHICH IS A SMALL SCALE LAND-USE AMENDMENT FROM RURAL TO COMMERCIAL. 
          ALSO INCLUDED THE ZONING MAP MINUTES FROM AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL TO NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS WHICH IS VA. THIS IS IN THE KEYSTONE HEIGHTS DISTRICT AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THIS ON OCTOBER 5. THEY VOTED UNANIMOUSLY 7-02 RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THIS APPLICATION. SOME OF BACKGROUND THIS IS LOCATED SOUTH OF KEYSTONE HEIGHTS AND HAS ROAD FRONTAGE ON BOTH STATE ROUTE 100 AND COUNTY ROAD 214 THE COUNTY, THE PROPERTY IS TO THE NORTH COMMERCIAL LAND USE WITH THE ZONING AND CONTINUES AND EXISTING CIRCLE K GAS STATION. PARTIAL TO THE SOUTH AND EAST. 
          ZONED AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL WHILE THE PARCEL TO THE WEST ACROSS TO 14 ARE ZONED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. YOU WILL SEE FROM THE MAP COMING UP THE VISIT. 
          AS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE RETAIL STORE. THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY. ATTACHED IS THE SITE. THE MAP ON THE LEFT IS THE LAND. IT'S ON THE BROWN IS THE PRESIDENTIAL AND THE LIGHT YELLOW IS THE AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE IT IS SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL THE EXCEPTION THAT ONE THE MAP ON THE RIGHT IS REZONING MATH AND THEY ARE OPPOSING THE CHANGE FROM THE GREEN TO THE WHAT WOULD BE THE IT WOULD BE COMMERCIAL JUST DISTRICT. 
          THE ANALYSIS OF THE COMPLINE IF THEY WERE TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THIS COMMERCIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION THE MAXIMUM INTENSITY WOULD BE 40 PERCENT AREA RATIO WHICH WOULD EQUATE TO 76,000 SQUARE-FOOT FACILITY. THE APPLICATION STATES IT WOULD ONLY BE BUILDING A 12,000 
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SQUARE-FOOT DEVELOPMENT. GENERATION BASED ON THIS PROPOSED USE WOULD BE 337 PEAK HOUR TRIPS THE EXISTING WATER MAIN TO PROVIDE WATER AND WASTEWATER BE HANDLED BY ON-SITE SEPTIC SYSTEM. SOLID WASTE SERVICES AVAILABLE THERE IS NO IMPACT ON SCHOOLS. 
          THE SITE IS LOCATED IN A FLOOD ZONE NEXT THERE'S NO IMPACT TO REGIONAL HABITATS. 
          THE PARCEL IS NOT LOCATED IN THE OTHERWISE LAND-USE AREA. FUTURE LAND USE POLICY 1.4.8 LIMITS SMALL-SCALE FUTURE LAND USE LIMITS TO COMMERCIAL EITHER IF THEY ARE IN FEEL PROJECT OR PROJECTS THAT ACCEPTED UNIFIED PLAN DEVELOPMENT. THIS PARCEL IS LOCATED IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO COMMERCIAL BUT THERE IS NO COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL USE WITHIN 500 FEET TO THE SOUTH AND THEREFORE DOES NOT MEET THE CRITERIA FOR INFILL DEVELOPMENT AS SET FORTH IN THIS POLICY. THE FINDINGS AND REGULATIONS THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CHANGE IN LAND USE FROM A TO COMMERCIAL AND A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM A TWO VA FOR THE 4 X 4 ACRE PARCEL. THE ADEQUATE UTILITIES AVAILABLE THERE'S AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL USE IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF THE PARCEL ALTHOUGH THE REQUESTED LAND-USE CHANGE DOES NOT MEET THE DISSOLUTION OF INFILL SET FORTH IN FUTURE LAND USE POLICY 1.4.8 THEY WILL NOT PROMOTE AND THAT IS A LOGICAL EXTENSION OF EXISTING PARCEL LAND-USE ALONG STATE ROUTE 100 AT ITS INTERSECTION WITH COUNTY ROAD 214. 
          REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICY AND THE ADOPTIVE CONFERENCE OF PLAN STEP IS DETERMINED THE REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF BOTH COMPLINE 08230009 TWO IN THE FUTURE LAND USE TO COMMERCIAL AND STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ZONING 082-30-0018 TWO MEN THE ZONING MAP FROM A TWO VA. CONTINGENT ON THE APPROVAL OF LAND-USE CHANGE. WITH THAT, DO YOU? 
          >> WE DO BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THE ANSWER. CHRIS, WILL YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE, PLEASE. I KNOW THIS WAS MIKE'S PROJECT THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING TWO NIGHTS BUT MY QUESTION IS IT DOESN'T MEET THE LAND-USE CHANGE FOR INFILL AND IN THE PAST I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD A PROPOSED SIMILAR CHANGE ON COUNTY ROAD 315 HERE IN GREEN COVE WHERE ON ONE SIDE IT WAS OWNED COMMERCIAL AND THEN ON ONE SIDE THERE WAS IT WAS 1/4 SO THERE WASN'T ANYTHING ON ONE SIDE AND STEPS REGULATIONS WAS TO NOT APPROVE THE COMMERCIAL CHANGE FROM A RESIDENTIAL CHANGE. SO MY QUESTION IS WHY THE DIFFERENCE IN POLICY? 
          >> YOU ARE CORRECT IN THE COMMENTS EARLIER DID STATE THAT DID NOT MEET THE CRITERIA OR INFILL IT'S NOT BETWEEN TWO PARCELS. BUT BE LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF TWO MAJOR HIGHWAYS IS NOT AN INAPPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THERE IS ALREADY COMMERCIAL EXISTING I BELIEVE IS WHY THE COMMENT WAS READ MANY APPROVAL. 
          >> BUT THE COMMERCIAL HAS BEEN THERE FOR LONGER THAN I HAVE BEEN ALIVE. 
          AND MUCH LONGER THAN THE COMP PLAN WOULD HAVE BEEN IN EXISTENCE. 
          BUT THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T FEEL IT'S AN APPROPRIATE AREA. 
          >> I WAS JUST WONDERING THE DIFFERENCE IN THOSE DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER CELLA. 
          >> ONE QUESTION THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL THERE AT THE INTERSECTION WHAT IS THERE NOW YOU SAID BUSINESS BUT WHAT KIND OF BUSINESS? 
          >> CIRCLE K. >> BUT THAT'S NOT HOW IT'S KNOWN IN KEYSTONE IT'S KNOWN AS THE GIZMO. 
          >> BEING FROM THERE I DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT GIZMO WAS. 
          >> THE GIZMO IS WHERE YOU GET YOUR GAS. WELL, I GUESS THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE OTHER OPINIONS ABOUT WHAT YOU DO. ANYWAY, THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR BETH? 
          >> I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO POINT OUT WE DID RECEIVE A NUMBER OF EMAILS REGARDING THIS AND WE AFFORDED THAT TO YOU VIA EMAIL. I ALSO HANDED A COPY TO THE PRESENTERS TO THE INTERESTED PARTIES EMAILS. 
          >> I WOULD ADD I'VE GOT NUMEROUS PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS, AS WELL, I HAVE TRIED 
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TO FOR THOSE TWO ZONING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 
          >> ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR BETH? I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          I HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM AND IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON IT AND I DON'T CALL YOU UP YOU ARE WELCOME TO WORK. MS. T MEYER. 
          AS I ALREADY CALLED YOU OF WHAT'S WE WILL GO AHEAD AND HAVE YOU. 
          >> MY NAME IS TERESA T MEYER I LIVE AT 6374 COUNTY ROAD 214 WHICH IS LESS THAN HALF MILE FROM THE GIZMO. I'VE BEEN THERE OVER 30 YEARS. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS NOT ONLY THE IMPACT ON OUR AREA AS FAR AS MOST OF THAT BEING AGRICULTURAL OR INDIVIDUAL HOUSES AND HOMES BUT WITHIN FIVE MILES OF MY HOME BETWEEN THE DOLLAR STORES AND THE FAMILY DOLLAR THERE IS TO MILLS ON A 21, TWO IN KEYSTONE HEIGHTS ONE AT 21 NEXT TO CVS AND ONE BY CAPITAL CITY BANK. THERE'S ONE BY WINN-DIXIE AND THERE'S ONE BY SMITH LAKE ROAD ACROSS FROM THE DUMP THOSE ARE THE DOLLAR STORES IN THE DOLLAR GENERAL. 
          AS FAR AS CONVENIENCE STORES THE GIZMO WHICH IS AT THE CORNER OF 102 14 I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW THE MAP THIS LADY PUT UP EARLIER THAT INTERSECTION TO 14 AND 100 COMES OFF LIKE A 80 DEGREES ANGLE SO WHEN YOU TURN OFF TO 100 WITH A SHARP TURN THE CONVENIENCE STORES OF THE GIZMO IS THE GATOR EXPRESS AT 126 THERE'S A SMOKE SHOP ON 100 THERE'S A BP AT 100 AND 214 NORTH AND ONE UNWARRANTED KEYSTONE BOULEVARD AND THE CIRCLE K ON THE 26 AND 21 AND MIDWAY AT 21 AND 20 1B ARE ALL CONVENIENCE STORES. 
          THERE'S ONLY TO STOPLIGHTS WELL THERE'S ONE STOPLIGHT IN THE TOWN OF KEYSTONE HEIGHTS THERE'S NO WARNING FOR FLASHING LIGHTS OR ANYTHING AT THE COUNTY ROAD 214 ADDITIONALLY, THE PEOPLE THAT TRAVEL ON 214 ARE FATALLY GOING MUCH FASTER THAN THAT. 
          INVOLVING PEOPLE RUNNING INTO TREES AND BUSHES ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD WHICH YOU HAVE SEEN A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS. I DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME LEFT BUT ONE OF THE THINGS TO CONSIDER IN THIS PROPOSAL IS THE NUMBER OF CONVENIENCE STORES AND DOLLAR GENERAL STORES AND DOLLAR FAMILY DOLLAR STORES WE HAVE IN THE AREA PURSUE NUMEROUS I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY WE NEED ANOTHER ONE. ADDITIONALLY, IF YOU HAVE TWO ENTRANCES ONE ON 101 AND 214 YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A REAL CONGESTION OF TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THE DOT HAS EVALUATED THAT. I KNOW YOU DON'T BELIEVE THEY ARE REQUIRED TO. I WOULD CERTAINLY RECOMMEND IT BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT IS GOING TO BE A HUGE IMPACT. SO IN CONCLUSION, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I SINCERELY HOPE YOU WOULD CONSIDER DECLINING THIS MOTION AND LEAVING IT AS AGRICULTURAL. 
          I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          >> THANK YOU MS. T MEYER. SUSAN STANLEY. 
          >> HELLO, MY NAME IS SUSAN STANLEY AND 1118 01 STATE ROAD 100 MELROSE WHICH IS TWO MILES FROM THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. I AM ALSO SPEAKING FOR MY 93-YEAR-OLD MOTHER MARGARET WHO CANNOT BE HERE BUT OWNS A HOME ONE MILE FROM THE PROPERTY AT 6319 FOURTH AVENUE LAKE GENEVA. 
          WE MOVED HERE IN 1967 AND WE NEVER LEFT AS WE ENJOY THE RURAL NATURE OF THE AREA AND ITS MANY LAKES AND SMALL-TOWN CHARACTER. KEYSTONE HEIGHTS WAS A BEDROOM COMMUNITY WAY THAT MANY FOLKS COMING FROM JACKSONVILLE OR GAINESVILLE TO ENJOY THE QUIET MANY ACTIVITIES THAT THE LAKES OFFER. THIS PROPERTY IS ACROSS THE COUNTY ROAD FROM LAKE GENEVA WHICH IS THE MAIN LAKE OF KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. 
          THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALL AROUND THE LAKE AND THE AREA WHERE MY MOTHER LIVES ONCE ONCE AGRICULTURAL LAND NOW CURRENTLY RURAL RESIDENTIAL. BACK THEN THE ONLY COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE WAS THIS LITTLE OLD WOODEN MOM-AND-POP COUNTRY STORE AND GAS STATION CALLED THE GIZMO AND WHILE THE ORIGINAL STORE HAS BEEN TORN DOWN AND A CONVENIENCE STORE BUILT IN ITS PLACE IN THE KEYSTONE HEIGHTS CITY LIMIT IS ABOUT TWO MILES AWAY THE CHARACTER OF THIS AREA REMAINS THE SAME. SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES SURROUNDED LAKE GENEVA RURAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH SOME AGRICULTURE. 
          ACCORDING TO THE CLAY COUNTY FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, A COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION ACCOMMODATES THE FULL RANGE OF SALES, SERVICE AND ACTIVITIES, INTENDED FOR LARGER SCALE MORE INTENSIVE COMMUNITY TYPE USES CONCENTRATED AT MAJOR INTERSECTIONS WITH ACTIVITIES CENTERS AND PLANT COMMUNITIES? WE DON'T BELIEVE THIS PROPERTY 
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IS SUITABLE FOR COMMERCIAL OR A NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS OWNS. IT DOESN'T FIT THE OVERALL CHARACTER OF THE EXISTING AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE AREA FOR THE RESIDENTS DESIRED LIFESTYLE. AS FOR THE SPECIFIC PROPOSAL OF THE DOLLAR GENERAL YOU MUST KNOW THAT AS THE LADY BEFORE ME MENTIONED MY DRIVEWAY TWO MILES AWAY I CAN GO EAST OR WEST, NORTH OR SOUTH AND I CAN GET TO SEVEN DOLLAR GENERAL STORES OR FAMILY STORES WITHIN A 4 AND A HALF TO 6 AND HALF MILES. MY MOTHER CAN GET TO FIVE OF THEM. 
          THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE INSTITUTE FOR SELF-RELIANCE STATEMENT THAT SAYS CHAIN DOLLAR STORES ARE INUNDATING AMERICA'S COMMUNITIES EDGING OUT LOCALLY OWNED BUSINESSES, FREEZING OUT ENTREPRENEURS AND SHIFTING PROFITS FROM A LOCAL CASH REGISTERS TO CORPORATE INVESTORS POCKETS. THE ARTICLE GOES ON IN THE REPORT HOW DOLLAR STORE CHAINS FOR COMMUNITIES WITH A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF 17 PROBLEMS. I KNOW IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TODAY BUT IN THE FUTURE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE COUNTY ENACT MEASURES THAT WOULD RESTRICT CHAIN DOLLAR STORES AND PROMOTE DEVELOPMENT THAT BETTER SERVES THE NEEDS OF KEYSTONE HEIGHTS AND IN AN AREA MORE APPROPRIATE. 
          THIS >> THANK YOU, MS. STANLEY. 
          MARK. 
          >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME MY NAME IS MARK AN ATTORNEY WITH ROGERS TOWERS LAW FIRM JACKSONVILLE, 1301 PLACE BOULEVARD. AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THIS MATTER I WAS ENGAGED BY THE AGENT TO ASSIST THEM IN THIS PROJECT. WE ARE LISTENING. CLOSELY TO WHAT IS BEING SAID I KNOW THAT OTHERS PROBABLY WANT TO SPEAK AS WELL SO I WAS GOING TO COME AT THE END. 
          SHE IS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF ENGINEERING FOR THE AGENT WHO IS THE BUYER, INTO THE BUYER OF THE PROPERTY. SO SHE CAN VALIDATE THAT I'M HERE ON THEIR BEHALF. 
          WE ARE ASKING FOR DEFERRAL SO WE CAN HAVE SOME TIME TO SIT DOWN WITH COUNTY PERSONNEL AND LISTEN TO WHAT IS BEING SAID AND, AGAIN, WITH ME COMING FORWARD AFTER THE FACT I WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK THIS PROBLEM BEST I CAN. I UNDERSTAND THE OPPOSITION AND I WOULD LIKE A CHANCE TO SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE SO THAT'S WHAT OUR REQUEST IS TODAY IS FOR DEFERRAL OR CONTINUANCE. AND YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING, VALIDATE THAT? 
          >> YES, I WILL, HOLLY IRISH, CIVIL ENGINEERING, JUST ECHOING WHAT MR. MARK'S STATEMENT WE ARE ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE TONIGHT SO WE DO HOPE THAT IS UP FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THE NOVEMBER 28 MEETING. AND, YET. I GUESS THAT'S BASICALLY IT. 
          >> OKAY, THANK YOU. DANIEL WARD. YOU HERE ON THIS ITEM, MR. WARD? I JUST WANT TO NOTE IT, THAT'S FINE. 
          >> AS STATED MY NAME IS DANIEL WARD. MY FAMILY AND I RESIDE AT 6328 COUNTY ROAD AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. 
          A PLACE WHICH HAS BEEN IN OUR FAMILY SINCE THE 1950S. I COULD SPEND MY ALLOTTED THREE MINUTES INFORMING YOU OF THE WILL DOCUMENT LESS DESIRABLE THE DOLLAR STORE BUSINESS MODE . HOW THEY CREATE FEWER JOBS AND PAID LOW WAGES. 
          IN THE STORES THEY OFTEN DISPLACE. HOW DOLLAR STORE EMPLOYEES SUFFER FROM THIR COMPANY SUPPORT LABOR PRACTICES, HOW DOLLAR STORE CHAINS OFTEN INCREASE COSTS AND REDUCE TAX REVENUES FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, HOW CHAIN DOLLAR STORES LACKS SECURITY AND MINIMAL STAFFING, MAKE THEM EASY TARGETS FOR CRIME. 
          AND HOW IT IS NOT UNCOMMON FOR DOLLAR STORES TO BE CITED FOR SERIOUS SAFETY VIOLATIONS AND HOW THEY DO NOT SEEM TO CARE FOR THE UPTAKE AND APPEARANCES OF THE BUILDINGS. 
          I COULD SPEND MY ALLOTTED THREE MINUTES ACKNOWLEDGING THAT, YES, THERE IS AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WE KNOW AND LOVE AS THE GIZMO. WHICH THAT THIS IS AS MS. STANLEY SAID THIS IS THE ORIGINAL MOM-AND-POP STORE OF MY YOUTH 
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WHERE I PURCHASED MY DAILY STASH OF BAZOOKA BUBBLEGUM AND A JOB RECORDS FOR A PENNY A PIECE THAT SHOULD TELL YOU HOW LONG AGO THAT WAS. I COULD SPEND MY TIME EXPRESSING MY FRUSTRATION WITH THE CORPORATION WHO ASSUMES WOULD RATHER WALK ACROSS THE STREET RATHER THAN DRIVING THE FOUR MINUTES TO THE HEART OF KEYSTONE TO PURCHASE ANY GOODS OR SERVICES THAT ARE MIGHTY. MY FAMILY AND I HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO LIVE IN A METROPOLITAN AREA WHERE THOSE CONVENIENCES ARE NEEDED. I PERSONALLY PREFER COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES TO BE CONVENIENTLY CENTRALIZED IN THE TOWN RATHER THAN PLANTED IN A FARMERS FIELD ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE. I COULD SPEND THE WHOLE OF MY ALLOTTED THREE MINUTES ASKING THE COMMISSION TO DEVELOP A MASTER PLAN FOR THE GREAT CITY WHICH ESTABLISHED COMMON SENSE BOUNDARIES WHERE COMMERCE IS AND IS NOT ALLOWED. 
          WHERE DOES IT STOP, IS MY QUESTION? I WILL WHAT I WANT TO SPEND MY TIME IS SAYING IS THIS THE REZONING OF THIS PARCEL DOES NOT FIT THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE REZONING OF THE 4.43 ACRES FOR THE GROWTH AND PROJECTION BUSINESS MODEL OF A CORPORATE ENTITY HOWEVER IT DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE AREA SURROUNDING THIS LAND. WHERE WILL IT STOP? THERE IS A NEVER ENDING COMMERCIAL RABBIT WE WILL CONTINUE TO CHASE DOWN THE ROAD IF WE OPENED THIS PANDORA'S BO . IN CLOSING, IT'S REALLY NOT ABOUT THE CHAIN DOLLAR STORE, IT IS ABOUT PROTECTING THE LIFESTYLE AND RURAL COMMUNITY FEEL THAT WE LOVE SO MUCH IN THE KEYSTONE HEIGHTS AREA. PLEASE, DO NOT APPROVE THE PROPOSED REZONING OF THIS PARCEL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          >> THANK YOU, MR. WARD. AND SHELLEY. SO HE HAS SHELLEY HAS --. 
          >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS SHELLEY PROBST DAUGHTER OF HUGH EDWARDS JUNIOR. 
          MY PARENTS HOME OF 54 YEARS IS LOCATED AT 6332 COUNTY ROAD 214 ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED LOCATION. THROUGH MEETINGS AND PRIVATE DISCUSSIONS WILL DETERMINE THE RESIDENCE IN THIS AREA ARE ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO HAVING THIS AT THIS LOCATION. 
          THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS FOR OUR OPPOSITION. FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE ARE CONCERNED THAT IT HAS THE POTENTIAL AND VERY LIKELY RISK OF INCREASING UNWANTED TRAFFIC IN CRIME TO OUR AREA. AS OF OCTOBER 16, 2023, THERE BEEN APPROXIMATELY 300 CRIMINAL INCIDENTS AT THE CLAY COUNTY DOLLAR GENERAL THIS YEAR THAT ARE CLAY COUNTY SHARES OFFICE DUTIES AND RESPONDED TO. SECOND, THESE NOTE THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS LESS THAN TWO AND HALF MILES FROM THE NEAREST DOLLAR GENERAL IS REALLY NECESSARY THAT ANOTHER STORE LOCATED LESS THAN FOUR MINUTES AWAY? THERE ARE FOUR DOLLAR GENERAL'S WITHIN A FIVE MILE RADIUS OF OUR HOME. THIRD, IT'S OUR OPINION THAT DOLLAR GENERAL STORES CAN OFTEN BE AN EYESORE IN THE COMMUNITY TO WHICH THEY ARE LOCATED IS DEMONSTRATE BY THE ATTACHED PHOTOS. THESE PHOTOS WERE TAKEN RECENTLY OF THE STORES LOCATED IN KEYSTONE HEIGHTS, WIND COVE SPRINGS, MIDDLEBURG AND MELROSE. WE BELIEVE PERHAPS POTENTIAL FINANCIAL INVESTMENT MAY BE BETTER SERVED TO MAINTAIN THE ALREADY EXISTING BUILDINGS, PROPERTY ENTRANCE AND PARKING IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY. ALSO, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THESE PHOTOS THESE STORES DO NOT MAINTAIN ORGANIZED TIDY STOREFRONTS THERE A LOT OF CARDS AND BOXES NOT ONLY IN THE FRONT OF THE STORE BUT IN THE BACK OF THE STORE, AS WELL. SOME OF THE STORES EVEN HAVE BOX AND CLUTTER IN THE AISLES OF THE STORE AS OF AUGUST 26, 2023, OSHA HAS AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION OF THE DOLLAR GENERAL MASS SHOOTING IN OUR NEIGHBORING DUAL COUNTY. 
          FOR THIS EXACT REASON. THREE PEOPLE WERE FATALLY SHOT BY THE CLAY COUNTY RESIDENT RYAN PREVIOUS EMPLOYEE OF DOLLAR GENERAL AND NONE OF THEIR INSPECTIONS OF DOLLAR GENERAL ACROSS FOUR STATES OSHA WORKERS WERE EXPOSED TO BLOCKED EXITS, FOR ANALYTICAL HAZARDS. 
          SINCE 2007, OSHA PROPOSED $21 MILLION IN FINES TO THE NATIONAL RETAILER FOLLOWING 240 INSPECTIONS AS REFERENCE FOR THE WEBSITE. I ASK YOU TO GENERALLY CONSIDER WHICH YOU WANT DOLLAR GENERAL ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOUR HOME THAT APPEAR AS THESE STORES DO IN THESE PHOTOS? WE DO NOT. AS CLAY COUNTY VOTERS WE BELIEVE IS MORE IMPORTANT TO FOCUS ON DECREASING CRIME, SLOWING DOWN DEVELOPMENT, ALLOWING UPDATING AND EXPANSION OF INFRASTRUCTURE OUR AREA. IN CONCLUSION, RESIDENTS IN OUR AREA AGREED WITH THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE NOT TO RECOMMEND REZONING THE SPOT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          >> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK,? 
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          >> HI MY NAME IS ANGELA ADAMS I LIVE AT 6242 BAKER ROAD ABOUT A MILE OF THE GIZMO. 
          THIS WOULD NOT BE A GOOD FIT FOR THIS AREA. WE HAVE FIVE DOLLAR GENERAL'S AND A SEVEN MILE RADIUS. THIS PART OF KEYSTONE DOES NOT NEED ANY MORE COMMERCIAL. 
          THIS IS A SMALL TOWN AND WE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN KEYSTONE TO KEEP A SMALL TOWN. 
          I DO NOT SUPPORT SOMEONE THAT DOES NOT LIVE IN KEYSTONE NOR HAS THE INTEREST TO HAVE A SAY IN WHAT HAPPENS IN KEYSTONE. YOU DON'T HAVE THE RESPECT THAT KEYSTONE DESERVES. 
          I DECLINE THIS MOTION AND STAND BY KEEPING THIS AREA IS ZONED FOR AGRICULTURAL AND RESIDENTIAL. 
          >> THANK YOU. AND IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND GIVING YOUR CARD. 
          THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? YES, COME ON UP. AND WE WILL HAVE YOU FILL OUT A CARD AFTER YOU SPEAK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          >> I APOLOGIZE FOR MY IN. I TYPE THIS AFTERNOON BUT I AM A FARM GIRL SO GUESS WHAT POSITION I AM GOING TO TAKE ON THE WHOLE MATTER CONCERNING CHANGING AGRICULTURAL AND RURAL TO COMMERCIAL. WE ARE AT ODDS WITH TRYING TO FIND FARMLAND AND AGRICULTURAL AND. HAVING SAID THAT I AM DOTTIE BAKER, I LIVE AT 6348 BAKER ROAD AND THE BAKER FAMILY THEY ARE THE ONES THAT HAD ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED THE GIZMO BACK IN THE DAY AND WORKED THAT GAS STATION AND STORE FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE HAVE LONG BEEN A FAMILY, THE BAKER FAMILY, OF AGRICULTURAL MEANS LOOKING TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND KEEP HER RURAL AND FEELING. WE KNOW THAT THE BIG PUMPING STATION IS WHERE TO BEGIN INCREASING THE LIGHTS WE ARE PROMISED WE ARE GOING TO SEE THAT IN THE NOT TOO FAR FUTURE AND THAT WITH THE RETURN OF THE LAKES THEN WE ARE GOING TO SEE AN INFLUX OF THE WAY IT WAS BACK IN THE 60S WHEN WE HAD THE KEYSTONE AREA AS THE GO TO PLACE FOR PEOPLE OUT OF JACKSONVILLE AND GEORGIA AND EVEN ORANGE PARK IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS AS THERE WE CAN GET AWAY BECAUSE IT WAS RURAL. 
          I HAVE SAID ENOUGH, I JUST WOULD ASK THAT YOU DECLINE THE MOTION TO CONTINUE BECAUSE WE HAVE HEARD IT THROUGH THE ADVISORY BOARD THEY HAVE MADE THE RECOMMENDATION AND IF WE BEGIN TO DRAW IT OUT WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DRIVE OUT WEEK AFTER WEEK, MONTH AFTER MONTH. THESE ARE RURAL PEOPLE AND THAT IS HOW WE WANT TO KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU, MS. BAKER. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING? ALL RIGHT SEEING NONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR MOTION AND DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER CELLA. 
          >> THE ADVISORY BOARD WAS MENTIONED TO HAVE THE BEST REPORT? 
          >> WE DO NOT. I THINK SHE WAS REFERRING TO PLANNING AND ZONING. 
          >> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT. 
          >> WE MAY NEED ONE IF MORE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT COMES IT WAS NOT, I'M SORRY, I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, I'M SORRY, SIR. AT THIS POINT THERE'S NOT ONE IN KEYSTONE. 
          I WOULD ADD IF ANYONE DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO WATCH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ONE A VERY POIGNANT QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED BY ONE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS OF THE APPLICANT WAS IF THEY OWNED THE OTHER DOLLAR GENERAL STORES IN KEYSTONE AND THEY DO. 
          YOU CAN LOOK AT THE PICTURES THAT WERE SHOWN BY MS. KILGORE THERE'S A JOB DOLLAR GENERAL STORE FROM THE CANADIAN CENTER ON 214 WHICH TRULY COULD BE AN AREA THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED A FOOD DESERT. PEOPLE WERE KIND OF EXCITED WHEN THAT DOLLAR GENERAL WAS 
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BUILT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE SOME PLACE TO RUN AND GRAB NOPE AND BREAD AND THAT KIND OF THING, LAUNDRY DETERGENT, TOILET PAPER AS IT WAS. THAT STORE IS RARELY OPEN. 
          I GUESS BECAUSE OF STAFFING ISSUES AND THEY HAVE HAD A PLYWOOD DOOR FOR SIX MONTHS, MONTHS, NOT SIX WEEKS, NOT SIX DAYS, SOMEBODY BROKE THE DOOR AND THEY HAD A PLYWOOD DOOR FOR SIX MONTHS. THIS OWNER AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THE DOLLAR GENERAL ARE OWNED PROBABLY BUT THIS OWNER SAID TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SAID THEY OWNED THE OTHER STORES IN KEYSTONE THEY ARE NOT WELL MAINTAINED, I THINK THEY ARE FIRE HAZARDS WITH STUFF GOING TO THE AISLES. WHY WOULD WE WANT IS A COMMISSION WHY WOULD WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE A BUSINESS TO BUILD A NEW STORE WHEN THEY CAN'T MAINTAIN THE STORES THEY HAVE AND CLAY COUNTY. AND IN THE KEYSTONE AREA THEY HAVE? . RECENTLY ONE BUILT IN MY DISTRICT ON ATLANTIC BOULEVARD BEFORE YOU GET TO 218, NORTH AND MIDDLEBURG AND THERE IS ONE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT COUNTY ROAD 217 AND 218 IN A CLAY HILL NEITHER ONE NEEDS ZONING CHANGES. 
          SO AS YOU POINTED OUT EARLIER COMMISSIONER BURKE YOUR CONSTITUENTS WERE CONCERNED WE DID GET THE OPPORTUNITY IN THAT CASE BUT IN THIS CASE WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF SET A POLICY DECISION NOT EVEN CONSIDERING THE REZONING BUT JUST ON ITEM NUMBER A WHICH IS A POLICY DECISION ON THE SMALL SCALE AND IN MY OPINION IT'S JUST NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THAT AREA. FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT, COMMISSIONERBURKE. 
          >> I HAVE SO MANY THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THIS. I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I THINK I HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO APPROVE OR DENY A DOLLAR GENERAL COMING INTO AN AREA. ACTUALLY LIKE DOLLAR GENERAL FOR THE MOST PART. 
          I GO AND GET CAT FOOD AND THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS I WILL GO THERE AND GET SOME MORE CLEAN. 
          I THINK THEY DEFINITELY HAVE A PROBLEM GETTING EMPLOYEES WHICH EVERYBODY DOES SO THAT'S PROBABLY THE REASON WHY THEY HAVE BOXES ALL OVER THE AISLES BECAUSE THEY CAN KEEP UP WITH WORK. AS FAR AS YOUR AREA AS FAR AS YOUR DISTRICT PROBE BY PERSONAL EXPENSE I THINK YOU DEFINITELY NEED AN ADVISORY BOARD BECAUSE YOU NEED A PLAN FOR YOURSELF AREA BECAUSE IT IS COMING THAT WAY. WE ARE MAXED SO IT HAS GOT TO COME TO YOU. I WILL GIVE SOME ADVICE TO WHOEVER IS THERE BECAUSE WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A BETTER PLAN FOR YOU ALL. YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL AREA. 
          I KNOW AS FAR AS THE LAKES STARTED TO FILL UP PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO MOVE THAT WAY, FOR SURE. I WOULD SAY I DON'T SEE A REASON TO CONTINUE THIS. 
          I THINK WE ARE ALLOWED TO NOT CONTINUE IT. WE HAVE GOT TO RESERVE SOME AREAS AND TRY TO KEEP SOMETHING OF WHAT WE HAVE AND I MEAN I KNOW THIS AREA MY MOM I JUST LOOKED AT HER TEXT AND CHOOSE TO BABY SIT RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM HERE SO HER FAMILY IS FROM THERE. AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING AND THIS IS JUST NOT A GOOD FIT. I MEAN, I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY SAY THAT AND GO AHEAD AND PUT DOWN OUR FOOT AND JUST SAY THIS IS NOT A GOOD AREA, PERIOD, YOU CAN GO RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD TO ONE SO THAT'S MY OPINION. 
          >> THANK YOU. OTHER COMMENTS? I WOULD ADD SPECIFICALLY THAT IN A LOT OF CASES WE DON'T GET TO DETERMINE WHAT SPECIFICALLY WHAT BUSINESS CAN GO WHERE SO WE GOT A LOT OF RIGHT NOW CARWASHES IN THE STORAGE UNITS AND WE DON'T GET TO CHOOSE IF A LAND OWNER HAS THE PROPER ZONING FOR COMMERCIAL IF THEY ARE IN THE RIGHT LOCATION THEY CAN BUILD THINGS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT ZONING. SO SPECIFIC TO THE DOLLAR GENERAL I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT SINCE IT CAME UP AT PLANNING COMMISSION I WANTED TO BRING UP THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE AND THEN I ALSO WOULD ADD THAT WE DID AN EMAIL FROM RESIDENT WHO COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY BECAUSE OF HER WORK SCHEDULE SHE WORKS SECOND SHIFT. 
          BUT SHE SAID THAT SPECIFIC TO DOLLAR GENERAL THE REASON THAT ARE NOT STAFFED ISN'T BECAUSE OF LACK OF EMPLOYEES IS BECAUSE THEY ONLY PAY PART-TIME EMPLOYEES, THEY DO NOT PAY FULL 
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TIME, THEY DON'T PAY BENEFITS AND THEY GIVE EACH STORE AND ALLOTMENT OF MONEY TO PAY EMPLOYEES AND WITHER OUT OF THAT MONEY THEY CLOSE THE DOORS. 
          IT'S JUST NOT GREAT BUSINESS PRACTICES AND I UNDERSTAND AT SOME POINTS IF THIS WERE PURELY A REZONING THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS WE CAN APPROVE OR DENY BASED ON AND ONLY THOSE THINGS WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING SUED BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE WE HAVE THE SMALL SCALE LANDMEN WHICH IS POLICY. AS FAR AS MY POLICY, MY OPINION ON POLICY IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, IT'S MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL, AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL, IT'S MOSTLY WOODS, MY SON LIVES NEAR THERE SO I DRIVE BY THERE QUITE A BIT. 
          SO AT ANY RATE THAT'S MY TWO CENTS ON WINE WE TALK ABOUT FOR THE PUBLIC WHILE WE TALK ABOUT WHERE WE DON'T TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC BUSINESSES AND IN CERTAIN INSTANCES BUT I WANTED TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE IT CAME UP IN PLANNING COMMISSION. COMMISSIONER RENNINGER. 
          >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION MAYBE SOMEONE KNOWS THE ANSWER. IS THIS A CORPORATE APPLICANT OR IS THIS A RICH ICY APPLICANT? FRANCHISEE APPLICANT? DOES ANYONE KNOW. 
          >> THE APPLICANT THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS IS CONCEPT DEVELOPMENT CIVIL ENGINEERING THEY WORK WITH CONCEPT DEVELOPMENT. CONCEPT DEVELOPMENT DOES PURCHASE THE SOURCE THERE IS A LEASE DOLLAR GENERAL IS AT THE MAINTAINING OF THAT LEASE AS A CORPORATION THEY ACTUALLY HOLD THAT LEASE. YES OF SO IT CORPORATE? 
          >> IT'S A CORPORATE MAINTAINED STORE. 
          >> IT WAS INFORMED THAT THIS CORPORATION OWNS TWO OR THREE OTHERS IN THE VICINITY. 
          >> THIS CORPORATION HAS A LEASE FOR OTHER STORES THE CORPORATION DOES NOT OWN THE ACTUAL LAND AND STORE. 
          >> THEY OPERATE THE OTHER TWO STORES WITHIN THE DOLLAR GENERAL CORPORATION WITHIN MELROSE IN KEYSTONE. 
          >> MADAM CHAIR CAN ASK I HAVE A QUESTION. MARK, I THINK THIS QUESTION IS FOR YOU. WHAT IS THE POLICY REASON FOR BRINGING IT HERE? IT CAN'T BE UNKNOWN TO THE CORPORATION THAT THERE ARE OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE VICINITY SO WHAT IS THE NEED THAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO FILL? 
          >> WE WANTED TO DO FOR THIS SO WE WOULD HAVE A CHANCE 
          >> I UNDERSTAND >> SO WE WOULD HAVE THAT HISTORY BUT SOME OF THE THINGS THEY HAVE SAID AN AMOUNT WHERE THEY HAVE SAID WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN AND WORK THE PROBLEM CANNOT JUST JUDGE IT BASED ON THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE HERE TONIGHT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN REBUTTED AND JUST TO SEE IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIND MIDDLE GROUND ON THIS. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I DO. 
          I MAY NOT BE SUCCESSFUL AT IT BUT I WOULD LIKE JUST FROM A DUE PROCESS STANDPOINT A FAIR OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS MATTER. TO DECLINE TO CONTINUE IT ON A FIRST REQUEST SEEMS A LITTLE BIT, I DON'T WANT TO SAY UNREASONABLE, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME IT GIVES US VERY LITTLE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK THIS PROBLEM OUT. 
          I THINK WOULD BE FAIR TO ALLOW US TO DO THAT. 
          >> MY QUESTION WASN'T ACTUALLY ABOUT DENYING IT IT WAS SPECIFIC TO THIS LOCATION THAT'S NOT NEWS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAME UP TONIGHT FOR THE FIRST TIME SO THE PO LICY REASON WHAT YOU NEED IS ASKED WHAT NEED IS ATTEMPTED TO BE MET AT THAT LOCATION WOULD HAVE TO BE ANALYZED BEFORE COMING HERE. 
          >> YOU ARE RIGHT I HAVE NOT SPOKEN WITH THE CORPORATE PEOPLE ABOUT THIS BUT THE ANSWER IS THEY WOULDN'T PICK THIS SPOT UNLESS THE DEMOGRAPHICS SUPPORTED IT. 
          THEY WOULDN'T HAVE PICKED THIS SPOT THAT'S WHAT I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO THEM ABOUT THAT BUT I'M SURE THEY WOULD NOT INVEST THE RESOURCES AND ENGAGE THE ENERGY IT'S TAKEN AT THIS POINT THEY DIDN'T FIND THAT IT SUPPORTED THE DEMOGRAPHICS SUPPORTED IT. 
          SO YOU SAY FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT, YES, THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO IT HERE BECAUSE AGAIN IT'S NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL THEY WANT TO BE IN A POSITION TO SERVE THIS PARTICULAR PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT, WE DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO GET INTO THAT WE SIMPLY WANTED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT AT A LATER DATE. IF YOU ALL ARE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE THIS WHICH IS A BIT 
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EXTREME THEN WE WOULD JUST WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION. IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE IT THEN WE WILL WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION. 
          >> THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR HIM? COMMISSIONER BURKE. 
          >> AS FAR AS ME I DON'T SEE A REASON TO GO ON HE REVISITS DOLLAR GENERAL I MIGHT ANSWER WAS TO BE THE SAME. AS FAR AS THE RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE IN MY AREA I HAVE TOLD PEOPLE IF YOU THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT OWNED THE PROPERTY I ALWAYS SAY GO TO THEM THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE SELLING INTO THE DOLLAR GENERAL. YOU KNOW NOW SO GO TALK TO THEM THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. BECAUSE AGAIN THERE IS PROPERTY OWNER RIGHTS AND I HEARD THAT AND NAUSEA IN MY DISTRICT. 
          >> I DON'T REPRESENT DOLLAR GENERAL. 
          >> BUT THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD A DOLLAR GENERAL. 
          >> THEY WOULD LIKE TO BUILD TO SUIT BUT I DO NOT REPRESENT DOLLAR GENERAL. 
          >> IF THEY WITHDRAW THEY CAN ATTEMPT TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          >> WE HAVE TO AGREE TO LET THEM WITHDRAW AT THIS POINT. 
          >> I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT WHEN COMMISSIONER BOBO WAS CHAIR WE WILL FORWARD AND WE DENIED REZONING AND A POLICY CHANGE IN APPLICANT WAS THERE SUSAN FRAZIER WAS THERE WANTING TO WITHDRAW DID AND HE SAID, NO, WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE VOTE. 
          DO YOU NOT REMEMBER THAT, COMMISSIONER CELLA? , THESE HAVE A SEAT. 
          >> PLEASE HAVE A SEAT. 
          >> AS FAR AS WE CONTINUE IT OR NOT THE FACT THAT THEY BROUGHT COUNSEL AFTER BEING DENIED LOOKING AT THE RESPONSE TO THE FACILITY BY THE RESIDENTS OF THAT AREA I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WOULD WANT TO GO ON BASICALLY WITH AN AUDIENCE THAT'S NEGATIVE IN TERMS OF ALREADY IN THE COMMUNITY SO THAT VIEWPOINT THERE. IT'S CLEAR I HAVE WORKED WITH ATTORNEY SCURVY WE WERE ABLE TO COME TO THE CONCLUSION ON A COUPLE OF THESE THINGS. 
          SEE HOW EVEN KNOWING WHAT THE COMPLAINTS OF THE CITIZENS WOULD BE WOULD CHANGE ANYBODY'S MIND. IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T FIT WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA IN THE AREA DOESN'T APPARENTLY HAVE THE NEED FOR A DOLLAR STORE WITH ALL THESE OTHER STORES NEXT TO IT. QUITE HONESTLY, I KNOW THAT SOME IN FAVOR OF THAT WOULD SAY THE ALREADY GOT A COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT ON THE CORNER BUT IN THAT CASE I DON'T THINK IT BEGETS ANOTHER COMMERCIAL PARCEL RIGHT NEXT DOOR BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN THERE SO LONG IT SORT OF GRANDFATHER THEN AND THERE'S NO OTHER COMMERCIAL AND THE ENTIRE AREA THERE. AT LEAST, ON THE MAPS WE ARE LOOKING AT. 
          THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE COMMERCIAL. AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THE ATTORNEY THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK THIS THROUGH I DON'T THINK IS GOING TO CHANGE AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A WASTE OF EVERYBODY'S TIME TO BE HONEST SO LET'S MAKE A MOTION WE DENY THE SMALL-SCALE LAND IS A LIMIT WHICH IS A ON THE 20 4A AND ALSO DENIED THE REQUEST TO REZONE THAT PARCEL. 
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO BE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND 
          FURTHER DISCUSSION 2 >> 
          >> I WOULD LIKE YOU TO KNOW THAT IF THE APPLICANT DOES WITHDRAW IT WOULD NOT BE A MATTER FOR YOU TO VOTE ON YOU CAN TO CONTINUE AND DO THE VOTE BUT IF THERE ARE CURRENTLY WITHDRAWN BEFORE YOU KNOW IT WAS JUST A PROCEDURAL MATTER. 
          >> I WOULD LIKE IT REFLECTED IN THE MINTES BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT WE HAVE THIS BEFORE AND MR. SCURVY WE GIVE YOU CONTINUANCES IN OTHER SITUATIONS BEFORE AND THEY WERE NOT WHEN YOU CAME IN AT THE VERY END OF THE PROJECT. I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE FACT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I CAN RECALL IN THE 2 AND A HALF YEARS ALMOST 3 YEARS I'VE BEEN IN YOUR COMMISSIONER THAT WE HAVE HAD THESE FOLKS DROVE OVER AN HOUR TO GET HERE BECAUSE THAT'S HOW FAR AWAY IT IS FROM KEYSTONE TO COME TO GREEN COVE AND THEY ALL SHOULD APPEAR IN THE SUGAR. PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEY CALLED IN THE EMAILS AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO BE RESENTFUL OF DOING THIS COMMISSION TO BE HAVE THE REPUTATION THAT AN ATTORNEYOR AN AGENT CAN COME IN AND IT'S NOT JUST YOU MR. SCURVY BUT ANY AGENT ON ANY ATTORNEY CAN COME IN AND WORK THIS BOARD TO GET THINGS MANEUVERED THE WAY THEY WANT TO MANEUVER THEM FOR ANY KIND OF CHANGE THAT THEY WANT. THEY REFERRED TO THIS AS A 
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NEIGHBORHOOD, MR. SCURVY, I WOULD CHALLENGE HAVE YOU EVEN DRIVEN OUT THERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S 60 MILES AN HOUR SPEED ZONE AND THIS WHOLE NORTH SOUTH EAST WEST OF JUST TELLING AN ESTATE ROAD 100 COMES FROM PALATKA EAST TO KEYSTONE EYES AND THE SUBMISSIVE FEMALE PER HOUR ZONE AND IT'S A GOOD MILE BEFORE YOU GET TO WHERE THE SPEED LIMIT EVEN DROPS TO 50 MILES PER HOUR. IN OUR COUNTY ENGINEER MR. SMITH SAID THAT IF THIS EVEN GOT TO THE POINT OF APPROVAL DOT WOULD REQUIRE THIS AGENT TO PUT IN A LEFT TURN LANE THAT WOULD COST MORE THAN IT WOULD COST TO BUILD THE WHOLE STORY SO WHY WOULD SOMEBODY WANT TO DO THIS? THAT RAISES THE QUESTION TO ASK YOU AGAIN WHOSE POCKETS ARE BEING ALIGNED? PEOPLE POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONS POCKETS ARE BEING ALIGNED I CAN ASSURE YOU NONE OF OUR POCKETS ARE EVER BEING LINED AND WE ALL SERVE BECAUSE WE HAVE CHOSEN TO SERVE BUT I WOULD TELL YOU SOMEBODY POCKETS ARE BEING LINED IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD THE TURN LANE THAT COST MORE THAN BUYING A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND BUILDING A STORE. THIS MAKES ME EXTREMELY ANGRY THAT WE ARE TRYING PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO MANIPULATE A SITUATION WHERE THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND WE HEARD THE PUBLIC. I APPRECIATE YOU COMMISSIONER CELLA AND COMMISSIONER BURKE ARE MAKING A MOTION AND A SECOND AND I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO VOTE AND THAT'S IF IT'S OUT OF LINE IT'S OUT OF LINE BUT THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT. 
          >> I THINK THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO FORMALLY SAY WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE WITHDRAWING IT AND REGARDLESS YOU CAN PROCEED FORWARD WITH EITHER DENIAL OF THE MOTION OR CONTINUANCE BUT IT IS A PROCEDURAL ISSUE AND I BELIEVE THAT IN THE PAST THAT WE HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION AND IF THE APPLICATION IS WITHDRAWN THERE'S NOTHING FREE TO VOTE ON. 
          >> I REMEMBER SUSAN FRAZIER STANDING UP THERE SAYING I WILL WITHDRAW, I WAS DESTROYED, I WITHDRAW IT AND THEN THE COMMISSIONER SAY NUMBER A BOW ON IT. 
          >> I'M ALSO SAYING IF IT'S WITHDRAWN THERE'S NOTHING BEAUTIFUL ON. 
          >> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN THEY CAN THEN BRING IT BACK? 
          >> WE ARE FORMALLY REQUESTING TO WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION. 
          >> THEY CAN BRING BACK BUT IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. IT CANNOT BE THE SAME. 
          >> RIGHT, BUT YOU CANNOT BRING IT BACK NEXT WEEK. 
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DENY ITEM A. 
          >> WELL, I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION THEN MADAM CHAIR FOR LEGAL COURTNEY SPECIFICALLY IF THERE IS NOTHING FOR ME TO VOTE ON THEN IS THERE A PROCESS OF NOT VOTING AT ALL? IT SOUNDS LIKE A MOOT POINT IF THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. 
          >> THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED FORWARD WITH THE VOTE AND IT'S HER PREROGATIVE TO PROCEED FORWARD WITH THE VOTE IF SHE WANTED TO CHALLENGE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT LEGALLY WE COULD DETERMINE LATER. 
          >> MY QUESTION IS FOR YOU, WAS THE PURPOSE OF MOVING FORWARD FOR MY EDIFICATION WAS THE PURPOSE IN CASTING A VOTE IF THERE'S NO APPLICATION TO CAST A VOTE FOR? 
          >> TO HAVE IT ON THE RECORD THAT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND THINK I HEARD THERE WERE AT LEAST THREE OPPOSED TO THIS THE SMALL-SCALE LAND USE AMENDMENT WE WOULD NOT GET TO THE REZONING AND I WOULD LIKE IT ON THE RECORD BECAUSE THE APPLICANT'S AGENT HAS ALREADY INDICATED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO BRING IT BACK SO I WOULD LIKE THE MINUTES TO REFLECT THAT WE ARE IN OPPOSITION OF CHANGING THE SMALL-SCALE IN A MOMENT ALREADY ON IT THIS PARCEL SO THEY CAN BRING IT BACK BUT IF THEY HAVE A VOTE THAT THE DENIAL WHEN YOU THINK YOU WOULD GET THE SAME THING IF YOU BROUGHT IT BACK FOR THE SAME THING. 
          >> MADAM CHAIR, YOU HAVE TO ASSUME IF YOU BROUGHT THE SAME THING BACK IF YOU BROUGHT IT TO PLANNING ZERO IT WAS 7-0 NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THAT ASSUME WITH THE SAME INFORMATION PRESENTED TO THEM THEY WOULD COME UP WITH THE SAME CONCLUSION. AND THEN BRING BROUGHT TO THE SPORT IF WE VOTE BY-ZERO YOU WOULD ASSUME UNLESS SOMETHING DRAMATIC CHANGES YOU WOULD ASSUME WE WOULD VOTE AGAIN AND THE OUTCOME LIKELY WOULD BE THE SAME AGAIN. 
          A MESSAGE TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE EVERYBODY LIKES TO TALK ABOUT SMART GROWTH SMART GROWTH IS PUTTING THE RIGHT PROJECTS IN THE RIGHT PLACE IN THIS DOESN'T SEEM TO FIT THAT, 
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PERIOD. 
          >> COMMISSIONER BURKE. 
          >> WE ARE LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE AND I WOULD LIKE TO FINISH THE VOTE THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO WITHDRAW IT BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ON THE RECORD THAT WE VOTED ON IT. 
          TO NOT CONTINUE IT. 
          >> I DID NOT WANT TO BRING THIS UP ITS THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S OPERATING IN OUR COUNTY. 
          THESE BUSINESSES ARE OPERATING WITH PLYWOOD BOARDS AND WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER IT TODAY AND I HAVE PROMOTED THIS A LONG TIME AGO A BUSINESS LICENSE WE KNOW WHO IS OPERATING AND WHO IS THE OWNER OF THE BUSINESS AND THINGS AS SUCH AND WE WOULD HAVE SOME SOME LITTLE CONTROL. 
          TODAY, WE DON'T KNOW SO OUR CONSTITUENTS HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS ON THEIR OWN AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT. I JUST THINK THERE IS MORE CONTROL THAT WE OUGHT TO EXERT ON OUR BUSINESS TO KEEP THIRD WORLD COUNTRY OPERATIONS OUT OF OUR COUNTY SO THAT'S JUST ONE OF MY PLEAS. SOONER OR LATER I WILL WIN THIS BATTLE. 
          >> I WAS OPPOSED TO IT WHEN YOU BROUGHT IT UP BEFORE BUT YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT. 
          >> THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IS DESIGNED TO DO. HOW MANY DOLLAR GENERAL'S DO WE HAVE IN KEYSTONE, WE DON'T KNOW. WE HAVE TO ASK OUR CONSTITUENTS FOR WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND COUNT OURSELVES. HOW MANY CARWASHES? HOW MANY STORAGE PLACES? WE DON'T KNOW. WE TALKED ABOUT HEALTHCAREHOW MANY HOTSPOTS DO WE HAVE EMERGENCY ROOM HOTSPOTS DO WE HAVE? WE DON'T KNOW. SO IT'S HARD TO MAKE DECISIONS WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE, WITHOUT DATA, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW. BUT I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW DOLLAR GENERAL HAS MIXED REVIEWS, IT HAS SOME HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE REALLY IS IS AND WE STRUGGLE WITH THIS ON KINGSLEY AVENUE. WE PUT SOME CONTROLS ON FA?ADES TO MAKE IT ONE COMMUNITY BASED AND WE HAVE HAD NO PROBLEM WITH IT THAT I KNOW OF NO PROBLEM WITH DOLLAR GENERAL ON KINGSLEY BUT PICTURES LIKE THIS DON'T EXIST ON KINGSLEY. 
          WE HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE. THAT'S IN THE TOWN OF ORANGE PARK. 
          >> I WOULD ADD THAT THE PLYWOOD DOOR THAT'S A FIRE CODE VIOLATION SO MRS. STEWART ASKED OUR FIRE MARSHAL TO GO OUT AND INSPECT AND THAT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT. 
          OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY 
          SAYING AYE. >> AYE. 
          [25.  Public Hearing on Ordinance and Resolution to Amend the Capital Improvement Plan, and, Amendments to FY22/23 and FY23/24 Budgets (R. Kantor)]
          >> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT ITEM NUMBER 25. PUBLIC HEARING ON ORDINANCE AND RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AMENDMENTS TO FY 22/20 AND FY 23/24 BUDGET. 
          I APOLOGIZE YOU HAD TO FOLLOW THAT. RANJIT SAID THE WORD OF THE DAY IS BUCKETS. 
          >> I WILL ADDRESS THE PART 80 WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING CHANGES THE BUDGET WITHIN THE BONDED CODE PROJECTS THUS NECESSITATING THE TIME SERVED PUBLIC HEARING. 
          BUDGET HAS BEEN INCREASED PRODUCT NUMBER TWO FOUR COUNTY ROAD 209 FROM 17 TO 215 B CONTRACT APPROVAL ON THE FOLLOWING ITEM. ALSO, OTHER ADJUSTMENTS REMAIN IN THE BONDED ROADS TO ENSURE FULL SPENDING OF BONDED FUNDS BY FEBRUARY 2025. 
          >> THAT'S THE ITEM WE NEED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS IS ITEM A ON A NUMBER 55. 
          DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM ON THAT? I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IS ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THESE BUDGET TRANSFERS? I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL BRING IT BACK FOR MOTION CAN WE HEAR ALL FOUR AT THE SAME TIME FOR TODAY HAVE TO BE INDIVIDUALLY? 
          >> WE CAN DO ALL OF THEM THIS NEW SOLUTION INCLUDES ALL OF THEM BECAUSE ESPECIALLY AS AN ORDINANCE. 
          >> THE REASON WHY IT REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING IS BECAUSE IT'S AN ORDINANCE CHANGE. 
          >> ITEM B FUNDING FOR PERSONAL COSTS IN THE FUNDRAISING OFFICE AND BUDGET FOR THE REGIONAL SPORTS COMPLEX TO CORRESPOND WITH THE WAY THE STUDY WILL OCCUR AND THEN FINALLY BUDGET 
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OF $25,000 FROM F DOT FOR THE 218 SIDEWALK TO THE ELEMENTARY. 
          >> THOSE ARE ALL THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS B, C, D? ANY FAMILY QUESTIONS FOR REG? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. 
          >> IS YOUR MOTION CLUES INCLUDE A THROUGH B IN. YES, DOES. 
          >> MOTION AND A SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY 
          SAYING AYE. >> AYE. 
          >> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. ITEM NUMBER 25 IS PHASE 2 OF 
          [26.  Phase 2 Construction Agreement for the Bonded Transportation Program CMAR Group #2, Project 2 with Superior Construction Company Southeast, LLC (E. Dendor)]
THE CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT FOR BOND AND TRANSPORTATION SEE MARGARET NUMBER TWO PROJECT TO DISAPPEAR CONSTRUCTION. 
          >> GOOD EVENING THROUGH THE CHAIR TRANSPORTATION HERE WITH ME THIS EVENING IS JOSH MADDOX WITH WGA THE OWNERS PRESENT AS WELL AS DONNA LAMBERSON AND OTHER WITH SUPERIOR CONSTRUCTION. BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING ITEM NUMBER 26 IS REQUESTED TO WORK PROJECT NUMBER TWO WHICH IS CONSTRUCTION SOUTHEAST FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF BONDED PROJECT NUMBER TWO ON COUNTY ROAD 209. THIS WORK INCLUDES THE EXISTING TOOLING RURAL ROAD FROM US 17 UP TO AND OVER THE RAILROAD TRACK IMPROVEMENTS TO THE RAILROAD CROSSINGS, INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS ON COUNTY ROAD 209 AND 350, 315 B WITH ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS ALL THE WAY UP TO HIS ASTHMA THE DO PROJECT NUMBER TWO. THIS INCLUDES SIDEWALK, BUT WINS IN THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT. AS A SIDE NOTE JUST AS A TEAM AND PRESENTED AT THE OPEN HOUSE OF WHICH MEETING HELD LAST YEAR IN OCTOBER AT THE RUSSELL THIS IS ALSO IN THE NOTES WILL BE A VOTE WAS WITH THIS PRODUCT ON THE ROAD ON THE RIVER CROSSING. 
          WHEN THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE PERFORMED BY CSX DIRECTOR. EXACT OF THE CLOSING IS WHAT WILL BE IN CONCERT WITH FIRE AND RESCUE, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS CLAY COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD. THE REQUEST IS TO WORK GUARANTEED MAXIMUM SUBCONTRACT TO SPIRIT CONSTRUCTION SOUTHEAST IN THE AMOUNT OF $21,786,162.46. 
          WITH THE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE OF MAY 7, 2026. 
          >> QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER BURKE. 
          >> WHITE 2026, I THOUGHT IT HAD TO BE DONE BY MARCH 2025 
          >> THE FUNDS HAVE TO BE EXPENDED BY MARCH 2025 BUT AS YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROGRAM THE BOND FUNDS ARE 129 MILLION IN THE PROGRAM TO BUILD A LOT OF THE PIECES ARE RIGHT NOW BUDGETED AS 172 MILLION THAT TAKES A MOBILITY FEE FUNDS THE TIPS AND FUNDS FROM F DOT AS WELL AS OTHER FUNDING SOURCES AND SO THEREFORE THOSE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES WE EXPECT THE ON MARCH 2025 WHILE THE BOND FUNDS WILL BE EXTENDED BY MARCH 2025 AND ALL THAT IS IN CASH FLOW OF COURSE WITH THE CAPITAL PERMIT PLAN IS DIMENSION. 
          >> I JUST LOVE ALL THESE. ARE WE GOING TO BE CAN I GET A DATE OF NOW IT'S GOING TO BE DONE WHEN OR DO WE KNOW THE OTHER PROJECTS WERE ROUNDABOUT? 
          >> AS FAR AS THE ROUNDABOUT ON COUNTY ROAD 209 THAT'S PROJECT 3B WE HAVE A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE WE ARE EVALUATING THE AS WELL AS CONTINUE WITH THE RIGHT-OF-WAY PURCHASES TO THE VARIOUS PROJECTS. EACH ONE OF THE 50 HAS BEEN SPOKEN IN THE PAST THE PROJECT AND THE PROGRAM IS FACED AGAIN BASED ON REALISTIC WHAT THINGS COST NOW VERSUS WHAT THEY WERE ORIGINALLY ESTIMATED FOR THREE YEARS AGO. 
          >> I HAVE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE THAT THINGS ARE TO BE DONE BY MARCH 25 NOW I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME DATES BECAUSE I LIKE TO KNOW WHEN ENCLOSURES I KNOW YOU KNOW DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT ORDER WE ARE GOING IN. IT HAS TO BE DONE BY MARCH 2025 FOR YOU TO PAY THEM? 
          >> HEARTEDLY GUIDANCE THE BOND FUNDS HAVE TO BE EXPENDED BY MARCH OF I THINK MARCH 26, 25 FIVE I BELIEVE, AGAIN IS ACCOUNTING NAZI IT'S A FUNDING TO A PROJECT THE CORPORATE WE ARE ADDITIONAL WORK AGAIN THAT REALLY GOES IS TO BE LITTLE SAVANT TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM 
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BUT TAKING ADDITIONAL FUNDS AS AN EXAMPLE WITH THIS ROAD F DOT FOUND IT WAS A BENEFICIAL FOR THEM TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL $900,000 FOR US TO DO SOME OF THIS WORK WITH COUNTY ROAD 209 SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S CALLED BOND TRANSPORTATION IT TAKES ADDITIONAL FUNDS OTHER THAN JUST BOND FUND. 
          >> MY FEAR, MY UNEXPERIENCED FEAR, IS IT WILL REDUCE THE MONEY AND THEN THIS WOULD BE PROJECTS THAT WILL BE DONE. DO WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT WHAT WE PROPOSE TO BE DONE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DONE NOW? 
          >> AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THROUGH EACH ONE OF THE PROJECTS IN EACH ONE OF THE PHASES AND EACH ONE OF THE PROJECTS I WOULD SAY THAT'S IF YOU WOULD THE PROJECT IS LOCKED UP FOR EXAMPLE ON 6B THE COMMUTABLE PARKWAY WE BROUGHT THAT ONE BACK FOR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WE KNOW THOSE FUNDS WERE LOCKED UP OR LOCKED-IN AND AGAIN EACH ONE OF THE PROJECTS TAKE AN VARIOUS FUNDING SOURCES OTHER THAN JUST BOND FUND. SECOND THING WITH THE PROJECT FOR 30+ GOING ON AND WHEN THAT WAS BROUGHT BACK WE WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE NOW THAT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS PURCHASED ALL THE POND SITES ARE DEVELOPED WITHIN A CULTURAL RESOURCE ASSESSMENT WE DID THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WE DID ALL THE PIECES THEY ARE LOCKED-IN IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME WE ARE MOVING FORWARD AND SAYING NOW WE KNOW WAS GONNA COST OF CONSTRUCTION. 
          >> WHEN DO YOU FORESEE BEING LOCKED IN IT THEN? 
          >> I CAN BRING THOSE DATES BACK FOR YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE EACH ONE IS A DIFFERENT PHASE IN A DIFFERENT STAGE. 
          >> WE ARE COMFORTABLE AT THAT POINT? SO SANDRIDGE IS ELECTED? 
          >> YES, MA'AM THAT IS WELL UNDERWAY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. I WOULD TAKE SAY THE CONSTRUCTION IS THE EASY PART. WHERE A LOT OF TIME AT THE EFFORT IS PUT INTO IDENTIFYING THE RIGHT ALIGNMENT HORIZONTALLY AND ENVIRONMENTALLY STORM WATER PONDS, DRAINAGE ALL THE VARIOUS REAL ESTATE ALONG THE WAY THAT ALL HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION BEFORE WE CAN SAY I CAN GO AHEAD AND BUILD IT. 
          >> YOU CAN GIVE ME THOSE DATES THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. 
          >> SO SEVEN OF THE PROJECTS THREE OR LOCKED-IN OR FOR? 
          >> WE HAVE PROJECT NUMBER FOUR WHICH IS PROJECT 6B WILL HAVE THIS ONE PROJECT NUMBER TWO WE ARE READY TO GO TO JUST ABOUT WITH PROJECT THREE OR PUT 3A ON THE STREETS. 
          THE BIDS ARE DUE BACK IN SHORTLY THAT WILL BE THE NEXT ONE. 
          >> WHICH ONE IS THAT? 
          >> THAT'S WHEN THAT RUNS JUST NORTH OF OAK STREAM THAT SECTION. 
          PROJECT NUMBER ONE WHICH IS COUNTY ROAD 218 OPEN THAT WHEN I FORGET AGAIN HERE SHORTLY WE WANT THAT ONE UNDER CONSTRUCTION BY JANUARY. THAT ONE IS NOT LOCKED-IN, CORRECT. 
          >> WHAT IS NOT LOCKED-IN? COUNTY ROAD 218 WEST. 
          >> 220 PROJECT FIVE. 
          >> IN PART OF 209. OTHERS ARE LOCKED-IN? AFTER TONIGHT. 
          >> I'M THINKING THROUGH IN MY MIND AND 6A, THANK YOU. 6A WHICH IS, AGAIN, THE OTHER HALF OF THE PARKWAY 6B WHICH IS THE LONGEST PIECE THAT ONE IS ALREADY LOCKED-IN WE ALREADY MENTIONED THAT STILL VOTED TO 23 OF THE MARYLAND AVENUE 6A WHICH WAS FROM MARYLAND AVENUE BACK TO THE 17TH THAT ONE IS NOT LOCKED-IN THE 
          >> CAN I DO ANYTHING TO HELP GET THEM LOCKED-IN? 
          >> GET US MOR MONEY. PROPERTIES, AGAIN, REAL ESTATE WE HAVE OVER 240 PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT WE TOUCH MANIKIN PART OF THE ALIGNMENT INITIALLY WE LOOK AT I WANT TO GO FROM POINT A TO POINT B HERE'S WHERE THE PROPOSED ALIGNMENT IS THE BEST PLACE SHIFTED MORRIS SOUTH, EAST WEST AGAIN SOME FOLKS AND YES, THIS MAKES GOOD SENSE AND YES I'M READY TO GIVE A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT A PERMANENT EASEMENT JORGE WE REALLY NEED TO BUY THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IN PLAY POND SITE OR PUT PIPE IN THE GROUND SOME OF THEM ARE WILLING AND UNDERSTAND THE BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY OTHERS ARE MAYBE NOT SO WELL AND AGAIN WE USE COUNSEL FOR ALL OF THAT GOD BLESS HIM BECAUSE IT'S A HERCULEAN EFFORT STEP ONE AND DONE A LOT OF OFFERS, COUNTER OFFERS, AS WELL AS A LOT OF OTHER COUNSEL BEEN INVOLVED. 
          >> I DON'T KNOW WHY AM NOT ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE BUT DO YOU KNOW WHERE UPGRADING THE CROSSING AT 209 THE CSS CROSSING INTO 09 THEY ROUTINELY HAVE TO RENOVATE AND WE ASK THEM FOR FUNDING? 
          >> ASKING A CSX FOR FUNDING, WE HAVE TRIED MULTIPLE DIFFERENT ITERATIONS, YES SIR. 
          THEY ARE VERY UNUSUAL THE ANSWER IS NO BUT EVEN WHEN COMMISSIONER CELLA WAS HERE 
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WITH CSX I'M SORRY BOLO. 
          >> I AM STILL HERE. YOU ALL TRY TO GET RID OF ME EARLIER. 
          >> COMMISSIONER BOLO HE WOULD ALWAYS HAVE SOME GOOD QUIPS WITH THE REAL DEPARTMENT. 
          >> SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU GOT NO MONEY OUT OF CSX? 
          >> CORRECT. 
          >> HE IS LUCKY THEY HAVE COOPERATION. 
          >> WE ARE PLEASED ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH US. THEY HAVE BEEN GOOD PARTNERS SO FAR. 
          >> WHAT WILL THE CROSSING LOOK LIKE WHEN WE ACTUALLY GET TO CONSTRUCTION? 
          >> YES, SIR, THE EXISTING CROSSING I HAVE JOSH OR IF I DON'T GIVE A GOOD ENOUGH EXPLANATION. 
          >> IS FOR US TO CROSSING IT WILL HAVE A BETTER ALIGNMENT BOTH VERTICALLY AND HORIZONTALLY BUT COMING THROUGH THEIR THERE ALSO BE A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING TO THE SOUTH A SIDEWALK TO BE ABLE TO GET THERE AND ALSO IT INTERSECTION AND ALSO WITH THAT PART OF THAT CHALLENGE IS THE TWO LANE RURAL ROAD YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO GET THROUGH THE WILL BE ADDITIONAL LANES TO GET QUICKER SLIP IF YOU WILL AS YOU TRAVERSE WEST AND TURN NORTH ON THE 209 THERE TO KEEP THE TRAFFIC MOVING FOR THE INTERSECTION. 
          JOSH. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT. 
          >> THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH AT THE BIGGEST THING WILL BE A DUAL LEFT TURN LANES SOUTHBOUND ON A 209 TO EASTBOUND AND THEN THERE WILL BE DUAL RIGHT TURN LANE. GOING WESTBOUND. 
          >> OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? 
          >> SORRY, I HAVE ONE MORE, SORRY. I DID NOT REALIZE AND IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THERE IS NO MEDIAN BREAK FOR RUSSELL BAPTIST CHURCH TO GET OUT NOW IN OUR PLAN AND I GUESS THEY HAD SAID SOMETHING TO YOU ABOUT THAT? 
          >> I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHECK. 
          >> CARLOS MET WITH THEM ON WHAT WAS IT TUESDAY? HE MET WITH HIM YESTERDAY MORNING AND WE ARE CIRCLING BACK WITH RICHARD TO DISCUSS THAT. 
          >> WE WANT TO BUILD AND DESIGN IT WITH THE SAFEST APPROACH AND YOU CAN ONLY PUT THOSE BREAKS SO OFTEN. SO AGAIN DISCUSSIONS BEING HAD BUT NOTHING DEFINITIVE AT THIS POINT. 
          >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, CORRECT? WE JUST NEEDED TO HEAR THIS AFTER THE BUDGET TRANSFER THE BUDGET TRANSFER REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          >> I AM ASKING FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGREEMENT. 
          >> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY 
          SAYING AYE. >> AYE. 
          >> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. 
          [27.  Public Hearing for the purpose of considering the entry into a Purchase and Sale Agreement for the purchase by the County of real property necessary for the Bonded Transportation Program, more particularly described as a portion of Tax Parcel No. 05-05-25-009016-004-04 and authorization for County Manager to execute all documents necessary to close the acquisition (C. Grimm/E. Dendor)]
          >> DON'T GO ANYWHERE. 
          >> NEXT IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NUMBER 27 PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSIDERING THE ENTRY INTO A PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT FOR THE COUNTY PURCHASE REAL PROPERTY NEEDED BY THE BONDED TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED. 
          >> THANK YOU AS FAR AS ITEM 27 IS A PURCHASE AGREEMENT FOR VERY MINOR PIECE OF PROPERTY NECESSARY TO HARMONIZE THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ON A PORTION OF COUNTY ROAD 220 WHICH IS THE BONDED TRANSPORTATION PROJECT NUMBER FIVE. THIS IS A SECTION OF 220 AND ACTUALLY ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE. 
          >> IN QUESTIONS FOR ED? I AM GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN IF YOU MAKE A MOTION PLEASE INCLUDE THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE DOCUMENTS NEEDED FOR THE ACQUISITION. NOT ACCUSATION. 
          SLIP OF THE TIME. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEE NONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. 
          >> I WILL MOVE APPROVAL AND GIVE COUNTY MANAGER AUTHORIZATION. 
          >> SECOND THE MOTION. 
          >> MOTION AND A SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY 
          SAYING AYE. >> AYE. 
          >> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. THANKS, ED. 
          ALL RIGHT NOW WE ARE BACK TO OLD BUSINESS. DEAN PAYNE HAS TAKEN HIS NAP IN HIS BACK TO DISCUSS THE REGIONAL SPORTS ROAD COMPLEX. I JUST RENAMED YOU DANE, SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS, DEAN DIRECTOR. SPECIFIC OF FROM TWO WEEKS AGO 
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WE ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE RELATED TO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WE HAD FOR A NEW ROAD NAME TO ORIGINAL SPORTS COMPLEX. WE DID HAVE A CHANCE TO ENGAGE WITH THE TWO OF THE THREE ORGANIZATIONS OTHER. THE THIRD ONE WE MADE MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS TO REACH AND GOT NO RESPONSE. THE SIGN IN QUESTION IS IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IT IS AN UNAUTHORIZED SIGN IS NOT APPROVED IN OUR 911 DATABASE FOR THAT ROAD NAME. 
          SO WE THINK WE'VE PROBABLY GONE AS FAR AS WE CAN GO IN REACHING YOUR CONSTITUENTS FOR THE MATTER AND WE WOULD ASK TO BRING THIS BACK TO YOUR ATTENTION OR APPROVAL OF THE ROAD NAME. 
          >> IT'S A VICTORY? 
          >> YES, VICTORY IS THE DECIDED WINNER THREE POOL. 
          >> DO YOU KNOW WHAT WERE GOING TO CALL IT VICTORY ROAD, VICTORY LANE. 
          I WILL SAY THAT FOR AT LEAST TRAVELING EAST TO WEST THE SIGN BY THE CHURCH IS NOT LEGIBLE. 
          I KNOW IT IS ON GOOGLE MAPS, IT IS NOT NOW. 
          >> YEAH, IT'S A PRETTY ROUGH TOUGH IT'S OLD IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME WE WANTED TAKE MEASUREMENTS AND PHOTOS AND SUCH BUT THE FOLKS WE DID CONTACT HAD NO IDEA THE ORIGIN OF THAT SIGN, EITHER. 
          >> ARE WE TAKING THAT DOWN? 
          >> YES, WE WOULD TAKE IT DOWN. 
          >> WAS THAT YOU ON A STEP LADDER TAKING THE SIGN DOWN? 
          >> NOT YET. 
          >> WE WOULD REMOVE THE SIGN BECAUSE IT'S IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. 
          ASK WE ARE NOT GOING TO REMOVE >> WE ARE NOT CAN REMOVE THE SIGN UNTIL WE GET YOUR AUTHORITY. 
          >> WHICH ENTITY DID NOT RESPOND? 
          >> CAVALRY CHURCH. 
          >> COMMISSIONER BURKE. 
          >> VICTORY LANE. 
          >> VICTORY LANE IS WHAT THE ONE BY THE CHURCHES. 
          >> THAT'S WITH THE EXISTING ROAD NAME IS, LET ME BACK UP, THAT'S WITH THE EXISTING SIGN. 
          >> SO THE ONE THAT HASN'T RESPONDED IT WASN'T IN THE 911 DATABASE. 
          >> CORRECT, THE ROAD NAME VICTORY IS UNAUTHORIZED AT THIS POINT IN THE 911 DATABASE. 
          IT IS SHOWN ON THE GOOGLE MAPS, WE HAVE REACHED GOOGLE TO HAVE THEM CORRECT THAT. 
          AND SO, THE INTENT HERE TODAY IS TO REMOVE THAT SIGN AND THEN RENAME OR NOW NAME THE NEW ROAD APPROACH TO THE SPORTS COMPLEX VICTORY ROAD. 
          >> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING I THOUGHT THE PEOPLE VOTED VICTORY LANE, NO? 
          >> YOU GUYS CAN PICK THE SUFFIX. 
          >> WE HAVE SOME LIMITATIONS ON THE SUFFIX THAT'S WHY STAFF RECOMMENDS VICTORY ROAD. 
          LANES TRACES AND OTHER SUFFIXES HAVE SOME BOUNDARIES AND VICTORY ROAD MEETS THE CRITERIA AND THE UNIFORMITY OF OUR ROAD NAMING EFFORTS. WE WOULD ASK YOUR APPROVAL. 
          >> I THOUGHT IT WAS POETIC TO BE VICTORY LANE BUT APPARENTLY THAT FLIES IN THE FACE OF ORDINANCE WHO MADE A QUESTION ORDINANCES THAT SAY I CAN HAVE A LANE BUT I CAN NEVER ROAD OR STREET OR ANYTHING. 
          >> WE CAN REVISIT THE ORDINANCE AT ANOTHER MEETING IF YOU WOULD LIKE. 
          >> WAS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LANE, DRIVEWAY? AND IS THERE A WAY TO GET AROUND IT. 
          >> I AM NOT PREPARED FOR IS THERE A WAY TO GET AROUND IT. WE TRIED TO BE IN CONFORMITY WITH OUR OWN GUIDELINES, I SUPPOSE. HAS TO DO WITH THE LENGTH OF THE ROAD WHETHER THE ROAD INTERSECTS ANOTHER ONE WHETHER IT'S A SINGULAR OUTLET OR A DEAD-END ROAD. IN THIS CASE, VICTORY ROAD MEETS THE CRITERIA, IT'S A LONG ENTRANCE IT HAS GOT. 
          >> EXPLAINED THAT. 
          >> IT DOES HAVE CONNECTION THERE SO THE LANE DOES NOT HAVE A CONNECTION TO ANOTHER EXTERNAL ROAD THAT'S ONE DIFFERENCE TO VICTORY LANE, VICTORY ROAD. 
          >> IS A ROAD AND A STREET OUR ONLY CHOICE OR IS THERE OTHERS? 
          >> THOSE ARE THE TWO I'M FAMILIAR WITH I CAN GO BACK TO OUR GIS TEAM AND THAT'S WHAT THEY RECOMMENDED TO US. PULL A FRIEND, PHONE A FRIEND. PROBABLY USED TO OF YOUR 
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LIFELINES IN THIS QUESTION. 
          >> HE IS NOT AS YOUNG AS YOU LAURA YOU NEED TO BLOW IT UP. LET'S STREET, ROAD, AVENUE OR TRACE. 
          >> YOU SAID I'M CONFUSED YOU SAID IT'S CONNECTED TO ANOTHER. 
          >> THE PLAN IS IT CONNECTS TO 221 AND TWO SPOTS. 
          >> I HAD NO IDEA ABOUT THAT. 
          >> IT'S IN THE MASTER PLAN. 
          >> IS IN THE FUTURE FACE? 
          >> YES, MA'AM. 
          >> SOUTH OF WHERE CURRENTLY IS OR NORTH? 
          >> SELF. 
          >> I AM NOT SURE I LOVE THAT I GUESS TRAFFIC FLOW. OKAY, WHATEVER. 
          >> THEN IN THEIR RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING. 
          >> I AM THINKING ABOUT OUR TURN LANES THE TURN LANES WILL THEN APPLY IT WILL APPLY FOR ONE AND NOT THE OTHER. YOU CAN ONLY GO IN ONE AND OUT THE OTHER REALLY THINK ABOUT IT HONESTLY I'M NOT TRYING TO BE FACETIOUS HERE WHEN I SAY I DON'T LOVE IT I'M THINKING ABOUT TRAFFIC. 
          >> I THINK WHEN THEY PLANNED THIS SO WERE GONNA TAKE AN ASIDE SO THIS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROAD NAME SO ON A PHASE 1 IN THIS SECTION THAT COMES INTO HERE THAT FACE IT TAKES YOU INTO THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS. IN THE FUTURE FOLLOW-UP PHASES REMEMBER WE ARE ALL THE WAY UP TO PHASE 6 ON SOME OF THESE PLANS, RIGHT JUSTIN? IT'S OUT THERE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MULTIPLE THINGS GOING ON WITHIN THE AREA YOU WOULD HAVE TWO ENTRANCES IN THAT GET YOU FLOWING ON BOTH SIDES OF IT THAT WAY INTO THE PARK THAT WAY. WITH REGARDS TO TURN LANES WE WOULD PLAN OUT IN THE FUTURE IT'S NOT LIKE THAT THE TURN LANES ARE GOING TO HAPPEN WITHIN A YEAR. YOU KNOW, THE TURN LANES THERE COULD BE MULTIYEAR'S THAT ARE OUT THERE DEPENDING ON HOW QUICKLY WE CAN VISIT INFLUENCES IN THERE. 
          BUT IF YOU OPEN THESE TRAVEL TEAMS A LOT ONE WAY OR ONE MIGHT HELP ABSOLUTELY KILL YOU BUT YOU HAVE IN THE TOURNAMENT IN THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE ARE LEAVING ANOTHER GROUP IS COMING IN I THINK WHEN CARLSON LOOKED AT THIS THE DESIGNERS TO THIS COVENANT IT WAS TWO ENTRANCES OFF THE 21 THERE TO GET YOU FLOWING WHETHER ONE WHETHER IT'S ONE WAY OR NOT IN AND OUT THAT SOMETHING WE WOULD DISCUSS WITH RICHARD TO ADDRESS THE IMPACT TO STATE ROUTE 21. 
          >> THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS ALSO 60 MILES PER HOUR PAST THE REGIONAL PARK THAT PROPOSED NOW NOT VOTED DOWN BECAUSE OF DOLLAR GENERAL. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET DOT TO REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT BUT TURNING IT AWAY OUT OF THEIR IS NOT. 
          >> ANY COMMENTS ON REDUCING THE SPEED IN THE FUTURE? 
          >> IT MAY WARRANT THAT BUT RICHARD WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK. 
          >> RICHARD SMITH, LAKE COUNTY ENGINEERING, THAT'S NOT LIKELY PEOPLE ARE MORE WORRIED ABOUT GETTING FROM KEYSTONE TO JACKSONVILLE THAN THEY ARE ABOUT PLAYING BALL. 
          THE SECOND ENTRANCE WOULD NEED TO BE A FULL TURN LANE BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS THE TURN LANE SIZE ISN'T DICTATED ON HOW MANY TRIPS ARE IN THERE. NUMBER OF TRIPS YOU NEED OR DON'T NEED IT ONCE YOU NEEDED IT THEN CONFORMS TO THE SPEED LIMIT OF THE ROAD TO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN SAFELY. SO WHETHER YOU ARE TURNING IN WITH THREE OR 400 TRIPS A DAY LIKE DELUSIONAL OR MAYBE THOUSAND TRIPS A DAY WITH HIM ON THIS THE TURN LANES ARE THE SAME. TO DROP DOWN TO 60 MILES AN HOUR TIMES 12 THAT'S 720 FEET AND YOU DO THAT TWO TIMES THEN YOU HAVE THE LENGTH OF THE LANE. 
          >> WOULD THERE BE ROOM BETWEEN THESE TWO PROPOSED ENTRANCES ON THE PROPERTY THAT COUNTY OWNS? 
          >> THE PROPOSED ENTRANCES THERE IS ROOM OTHER THINGS COULD BE RESTRICTED ON THAT SELF ONE CAN BE RIGHT AND AND WRITE OUT ONLY. WHERE YOU WOULD ONLY ENTER AND EXIT AND NOT MAKE LEFT TURN OUT OR IN IT WOULD BE ANOTHER CALL HOWARD WOULD BEAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THE EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS. MAYBE WE HAVE TWO CUL-DE-SACS I'M NOT SURE AND ANY COMMINGLING BUT THEN RIGHT NOW THE PLAN IS A LOOP ROAD. 
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          >> THANKS, RICHARD. 
          >> I THINK MADAME CHAIR WHILE FOR HAVING THIS DISCUSSION MAYBE THERE'S CONSENSUS ON THE NAMING, TOO. 
          >> THERE HAS BEEN SOME MOVEMENT SO ELAINE MIGHT STILL BE IN THE MIX. 
          >> NOT TO DELAY IT BUT IF WERE NOT ALL IN FAVOR OF ROAD I THINK WE SHOULD GO BACK AND EVALUATE OUR DEFINITIONS BECAUSE THERE'S LOTS OF OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. 
          >> I REALLY COULD CARE LESS WHAT THE SUFFIXES I PERSONALLY WILL GO WITH WHAT THE MAJORITY IS I AM REALLY MOST CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC AND SAFETY IN AND OUT AND CALLING IT VICTORY, CALLING 911, IS FINE WITH ME I WILL CALL IT WHATEVER THE BOARD WANTS TO DO. 
          IS THERE A MOTION TO DO PSOMETHING DIFFERENT? 
          >> WE ARE NOT IN A RUSH, ARE WE? I LIKE VICTORY LANE. 
          >> VICTORY LANE SEEMS TO HAVE A RACETRACK CONNOTATION. 
          >> WE MIGHT OFFER THEN ANOTHER CONTINUANCE TO INVESTIGATE ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVES TO OUR ORDINANCE FOR POSSIBLE EXCEPTIONS THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. 
          >> SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. 
          >> I THINK WE WERE LOOKING TO GET THIS DONE BECAUSE WE HAVE GOT PEOPLE OUT THERE JUST IN THE TERMS OF THE BILLS IT'S A TIMING WISE. MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE AT LEAST IN MY EYES GO WITH THE VICTORY LANE IT'S A CATCHY AND PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND AND IF NOT THEN WE PICK A SECONDARY AND LET THEM IF IT CAN'T BE LANE AND WILL GO WITH THE SECOND CHOICE AND IT WILL BE DONE. THERE'S NO SENSE IN CONTINUING. VICTORY LANE IN ORDER AND OR WHAT WAS ONE YOU JUST SUGGESTED? 
          >> ROAD, STREET, TRACE. 
          >> I'M GOING WITH LOOP E. I WOULD SAY VICTORY ROAD AS THE ALTERNATIVE. 
          >> VICTORY LANE AS FIRST CHOICE IF WE CAN'T HAVE THAT VICTORY ROAD THAT'S MY MOTION. 
          BUCKS WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY 
          SAYING AYE. >> AYE. 
          [21.  Appropriations and Legislative Priorities Approval (C. Latham)]
          P>> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. NEXT WE ARE REVISITING OUR SECOND ITEM OF OLD BUSINESS THE APPROPRIATIONS AND LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES APPROVAL. 
          >> MADAM CHAIR, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO BEHALF TO GIVE THEM AUTHORIZATION TO TAKE DOWN THE SIGNPOST THAT WE HAD INDICATED? 
          >> IN OUR RIGHT-OF-WAY. I MEAN, DO WE HAVE TO TAKE IT DOWN? ARE PEOPLE GOING TO BE MAD IF WE TAKE IT DOWN? YOU DON'T THINK SO. 
          I WILL TELL YOU YOU'LL FIND OUT IF THEY GET MAD BECAUSE THEY WILL CALL ME AND I WILL CALL YOU. DON'T DESTROY IT, ERIC, WHERE ARE YOU. 
          THANKS. 
          >> WE WILL GIVE IT TO THEM SO THEY CAN HANG IT UP ON THE WALL. 
          >> HOW DID IT GET THERE, THEY MADE THEIR OWN SIGN? 
          >> THINGS GOT DONE BACK IN THE DAY A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN THEY GET DONE TODAY. 
          >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, ONCE AGAIN WE ARE BACK TO TALK ABOUT LEGISLATIVE GOALS AND APPROPRIATIONS INITIATIVES AND GOALS. 
          AFTER OUR LAST MEETING COUPLE WEEKS AGO WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR WHAT MOST OF YOU HAVE SAID YOU WERE LOOKING FOR. WE DID THE APERTURE WE DID MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO ASK FOR. 
          WE HAVE MITIGATED THAT TO OUR LOBBYIST MERCER AND WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS PRETTY MUCH YOU HAVE THIS COPY WHICH IS THE CURRENT NEW FORMAT WITH ALL THE INFORMATION FOR 2024. 
          [02:35:10]
IT'S THE SAME SIZE AS LAST YEAR'S SO BE A LITTLE SMALLER. YOU CAN SEE WE MOVED A LEGISLATION TO THE FRONT OF THE CARD. THIS IS ALL THE SAME WITH THE ADDITION OF THE TWO MODIFIED FS NINE, I GUESS I NEED TO GET NEW GLASSES. 
          939.185 ASSESSMENT FOR ADDITIONAL COURT COSTS AND SURCHARGES INCREASING THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT IS RELISTED BEFORE IS THE $65 FEE. AND ALSO THE ONE BELOW IS A VALUE ADJUSTMENT BOARD MODIFICATION AND IF YOU FLIP THE CAR OVER YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE THING IS FOR THE APPROPRIATIONS THAT WAS DIVIDED INTO THREE PARTS INFRASTRUCTURE AND RESILIENCY, TRAILS, PARKS AND LAKES AND LOOK SAFETY AND LIBRARY FACILITIES. 
          MADAM CHAIR, IF YOU LIKE ME TO READ THESE I WILL BUT EVERYONE HE HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE AND I BELIEVE THE MANAGER AND OR I MET WITH EACH OF YOU TO DISCUSS THIS SO BASICALLY HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. 
          >> SO LET'S FIRST TURN IT OVER TO THE THE FRONT SIDE, THE BLUE SIDE. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DID THE DESIGN, I LOVE IT. SO THANK YOU. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SEE DIFFERENTLY ON THE FRONT? CAN WE JUST AGREE TO THAT ONE FIRST THAT ONE SEEMS LIKE IT WAS LESS CONTROVERSIAL BEFORE. 
          ANYTHING ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SEE DIFFERENTLY? ARE WE ALL IN AGREEMENT WE LIKE THAT SIDE? OKAY SO, GOING TO THE BACK THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE AFTER HAVING SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH DIFFERENT STAFF ABOUT FOR THE REGIONAL SPORTS PARK KIND OF TO OPEN UP WHAT WE COULD DO. THERE SEEMS TO BE KIND OF A MOVEMENT TO REMOVE PICKLE BALL COURTS TO NOT LOCK US INTO THAT BUT THE POTENTIAL TO BUILD A CROSS-COUNTRY TRAIL AND ADD SO ADD CROSS-COUNTRY TRAIL AND ADD MORE RESTROOMS AND PARKING AS OPTIONS LEAVING ON VOLLEYBALL FIELDS, ADDITIONAL LIGHTING AND THE MULTIUSE FIELDS. 
          BECAUSE PICKLE COURTS, AS WE HAVE SEEN EARLIER TONIGHT, THE PERSON TO BUILD THEM IS OUTRAGEOUS RIGHT NOW. THAT IS PUTTING, YOU KNOW, WE COULD MAKE SOME MONEY GO A LOT FURTHER, YOU KNOW, CUTTING A TRAIL FOR BUILDING THE SAND VOLATILE COURTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT SO IF ANYBODY HAS A REAL PROBLEM THERE'S ALSO OTHER PLACES IN THE COUNTY THAT ARE BUILDING PICKLE BALL COURTS I UNDERSTAND THE PREVIOUS ORANGE PARK COUNTRY CLUB THERE'S A PROPOSAL TO DO PICKLE BALL THERE SO JUST AND THINKING OF WHAT OUR CITIZENS WOULD LIKE TO SEE. IF ANYBODY HAS AN ISSUE WITH THAT I KNOW THINGS AND REMOVING PICKLE BALL. 
          >> THERE WOULD STILL BE ROOM LATER FOR THAT IN A DIFFERENT PHASE OR? 
          >> YES, MA'AM. OH, DEFINITELY. THIS IS PHASE 2 POTENTIALLY 6 TO 8 FACES. 
          >> SO WE POSTED THEY CROSS-COUNTRY MEET IN MADISON IS THAT WE BUILT A CROSS-COUNTRY TRAIL TO NCAA STANDARDS COULD BE USED FOR EVERYTHING FROM JUNIOR HIGH UP TO COLLEGIATE LEVEL SPORTING EVENTS. AND COULD BE USED BY OUR CITIZENS. THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE. 
          >> I HAVE NOTED THAT CHANGE. 
          >> THE COST IS PRETTY LIMITED ON WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO SPEND ON THAT WE WILL DO FOR INFRASTRUCTURE WITH MORE PARKING IN THAT KIND OF THING THAT COULD BE INCLUDED IN THE PHASES AND THE ACTUAL DESIGNING THE CROSS-COUNTRY IS PRETTY INEXPENSIVE. 
          >> YEAH, IT SEEMED TO ME MUCH MORE DOABLE THAN PICKLE BALL COURTS GIVEN OUR RECENT EXPERIENCE WITH THE SAVAGE QUOTE. 
          >> I AM GOOD WITH IT. 
          >> IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ANYONE? 
          >> JUST TO NOTE THE QR IN THE BACK WOULD BE TIED TO VERBIAGE ON THE PAGE YOU RECEIVED SO 
          [02:40:03]
THAT WILL BE PROVIDING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO THE CITIZENS WHO WANT TO LEARN MOR . 
          >> THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS IN TERMS OF THE GENEVA RESTORATION PROJECT TO THE PUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT NEXT TO ALL DO YOU THINK WE NEED THAT THERE? 
          >> YES, SIR, WHEN WE TALK TO MERCER HE SAID IT WOULD BE A STATED MANAGED PROJECT SO WE NEED TO ASK FOR MONEY. 
          >> VIVIAN HAD TO LEAVE SHE SPOKE A PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE THERE'S NOT PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE. SHE AND I HAD A TEAMS MEETING WITH THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IS WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE DEPUTY SECTOR FOR DEP THEY ARE AWARE OF THE PROJECT. 
          THEY SEEM TO BE COMING AROUND TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT. 
          REALLY WHAT NO ONE KNOWS IS WHAT THE VALUE WOULD BE IN THE TIMBER. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THEY ASKED AND DEP IS GOING TO ASK MIKE BECAUSE WHAT MIKE WILL BE BACK WITH IS TIMBERING THE TREES CUTTING THEM A GROUND-LEVEL VERSUS DISTURBING THE LAKEBED BY PULLING OUT STUMPS WHICH WOULD BE FAR MORE EXPENSIVE AND EVERYONE SEEMS TO BE IN AGREEMENT THERE'S NO REASON TO PULL THE STEPS OUT TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE HABITAT FOR FISH AND THAT KIND OF THING. SO I THINK THEY WILL COME TO A RESOLUTION AND, SEE, THE DIRECTOR REGISTER REPRESENTATIVE PAIN IN THE DEP ALL SEEM TO BE WORKING TOGETHER AND SO THEY WILL COME BACK TO US WITHOUT THINK, I DON'T KNOW WHO ACTUALLY PULL THE PERMIT, IT MAY COME BACK AND COME BACK ASKED THE COUNTY TO PULL THE PERMIT, I DON'T KNOW, WHATEVER THEY WILL DO AND MAYBE ST. JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT THEY DIDN'T SEEM TO HAVE A FIGURE, I DON'T KNOW, DOES THAT HELP? 
          >> NO, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF IT WAS BENEFICIAL AND OBVIOUSLY IF THERE WAS THOUGHT AND WE DIDN'T LIKE THAT SO THAT'S FINE. I WASN'T AWARE OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WAS SET ON THAT. LOOKING AT THE PREPARATIONS I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD I AM VERY HAPPY WITH THE WAY IT CAME OUT AND TELLS OUR LEGISLATURE ALL THE AREAS WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOME HELP IN WHATEVER THEY CAN DO TO HELP US HERE IS A LIST OF THINGS YOU CAN HELP WITH PICKLE AND PAY FOR. 
          >> MANAGER, AS YOU RECALL THERE'S A LOT OF PAPERWORK FOR EACH OF THESE ITEMS AND WE WILL BE ASKING FOR THE PERMISSION FOR THE MANAGER TO BE ABLE TO SIGN NOT JUST THE INFORMATION REQUEST BUT IF YOU RECALL WE HAVE STATIONS THAT WILL BE COMING LATER WERE ASKING TO SIGN THOSE, AS WELL. 
          >> SO WE ACTUALLY NEED A VOTE? 
          >> MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT OTHER COMMENTS. 
          I WANT TO BE VERY ACCURATE WITH REGARDS TO THE REGIONAL SPORTS COMPLEX WE WERE GOING TO REMOVE THE REFERENCE OF PICKLE BALL COURTS, WE WILL ADD CROSS-COUNTRY COURSE, IS THAT ACCESSIBLE? TRAIL, OKAY. WE WILL ADD THE WORD RESTROOMS. 
          >> MORE RESTROOMS AND PARKING. 
          >> RESTROOMS AND PARKING OKAY. AND WE USE THE WORD OR THERE SO THERE'S THAT OPTION AND IN THE BACK OF DOCUMENTATION, TOO, IT WILL HAVE THAT ABILITY AS WELL JUST TO CLARIFY. 
          I DID BRING IT UP ON THE WEBSITE BUT THE FUTURE PHASES THAT WERE THERE AND I CALL IT A HORSESHOE IT'S PROBABLY NOT I DON'T OWN A HORSE ANYWAY IT COMES AROUND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S OUT THERE. ANYHOW, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          >> WHEN WE FIRST IS THAT WE WERE NOT SURE WE WERE GOING TO GET THE MONEY FOR THE TURN LANES BUT SINCE WE DO ON MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE ROOM. AND THAT ENTRANCE IS ALSO OUR CURRENT ENTRANCE IT IS NOT THAT FAR BUT IT'S FURTHER THE CURRENT ENTRANCE IS FURTHER SOUTH AND ORIGINALLY HAD BEEN PLANNED TO BE. THAT IS CORRECT. 
          >> THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP, SAFETY. ALL RIGHT, SO ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON EITHER SIDE OF THIS OR ON THE BACK OF DATA? IF NOT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR MOTION INCLUDES TO ALLOW THE COUNTY MANAGER TO SIGN ALL RELATED DOCUMENTATION. 
          >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AS LISTED WITH ALSO THE COUNTY MANAGERS APPROVE THE COUNTY MANAGER MAKE ALL ATTESTATIONS THAT MAY BE REQUIRED TO APPLY FOR THESE GRANTS. 
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MOTION AND A SECOND FURTHER 
          [02:45:02]
DISCUSSION? I JUST 
          >> JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT WAS PUT INTO IT WE APPRECIATE IT I THINK IS A BETTER PRODUCT. 
          >> MAKE SURE REGIONAL COUNCIL HAS A COPY BECAUSE ARE GOING TO INCLUDE THIS IN THEIR QR CODE. 
          >> YES, SIR. 
          >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. AYE. 
          [22.  Discussion of resolution of claim against Fidelity National Title Group re: 2175 Center Way, Middleburg, Florida (C. Grimm/C. Stewart)]
THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. 
          >> ITEM 22 NEW BUSINESS. COURTNEY. 
          >> THIS ITEM IS NO LONGER RIGHT FOR DISCUSSION OR RESOLUTION OF THIS PROPERTY WAS RECENTLY SOLD WITHIN THE LAST MONTH SO THEREFORE THE CURRENT TITLE COMPANY IS NO LONGER ONE WE HAVE A CLAIM AGAINST SO WE WILL IN CONNECTION WITH THE NEW PROPERTY OWNERS WE WILL ASSERT A CLAIM AGAINST THE NEW PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE TITLE INSURANCE COMPANY AND PROBABLY BRING IT BACK TO YOU SOMETIME LATER. 
          >> WHAT IS THE CLAIM FOR? 
          >> THIS HAS BEEN IN FRONT OF YOU THIS ACTUAL CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE THIS WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH THE THIRD OR FOURTH TIME SO THIS PROPERTY THE ORIGINAL OWNER OWNED THREE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES AND FOR TWO OF THE PROPERTIES THEY CAME BEFORE YOU 18 REDUCTION AND YOU REDUCE IT TO AROUND $4000 THE SECOND TIME IT WAS MISSED IN THE TITLE COMPANY CAME AND THEN YOU REDUCE IT FOR ABOUT 30,000 SO HERE WE ARE ON THE THIRD PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT NOW IT HAS BEEN MISSED QUITE A FEW TIMES SO RETURNED TO ASSERT A CLAIM ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD TO RECOVER SOME OF THE MONEY. 
          >> WHEN YOU SAY MISSED WAS THAT KIND OF THAT MUNICIPAL? 
          >> THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND THAT THEY ACTUALLY ASSERT IF YOU RECALL IN CONNECTION WITH THE FIRST PROPERTY YOU ENTERED INTO THE PERSPECTIVE PURCHASER AND YOU ENTERED IN TO A LIEN ADDICTION ONLY $4000 THE PARTIAL RELEASE WAS ENTERED SO THE TITLE COMPANIES ARE ARGUING WITH US OVER THEY CONSTRUE THAT HAS BEEN AN ENTIRE RELEASE BECAUSE THE AGREEMENT THEY LOOK AT IT HAS BEEN AN ENTIRE RELEASE SUBSEQUENT PROPERTY THAT CAME BEFORE YOU WE DISAGREED IN THE CAN BEFORE YOU AND THAT'S WHAT WERE THE CLAIM YOU REDUCED IT. 
          THIS IS NOT THE SECOND TITLE COMPANY THAT IS LISTED IN THEIR ARGUING WITH US ON THE THIRD PROPERTY. 
          >> SO THE TITLE COMPANY ALLOWED THEM TO CONVEY THEY SHOULD NOT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON IT? OKAY SO WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 28. 
          [28.  Discussion of Appointments to the Middleburg/Clay Hill Citizens Advisory Committee]
THIS IS A DISCUSSION OF APPOINTMENTS TO THE MIDDLEBURG CLAY HILL CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. SO AND THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT SO WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK OF YOU TONIGHT FIRST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE HEARD OUR PLEAS AND COME OUT TO SUPPORT OUR MIDDLEBURG, CLAY HILL CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          WHAT I WOULD ASK OF YOU TONIGHT IS TO GO IN AND APPROVE THE APPLICATION SUPPORT WE APPOINTMENTS THAT ARE FROM MELINDA JOHNSON AND NATIVIDAD SANTOS. 
          SO THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO MEET BUT IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT THIS ITEM WITH STAFF IT CAME TO MY ATTENTION THAT THERE IS PART OF MIDDLEBURG WHERE I KNOW THERE IS SOME UPCOMING PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT CHANGES THAT FOR SOME CRAZY REASON IS CONSIDERED IN THE KEYSTONE HEIGHTS DEVELOPMENT AREA AND NOT IN MIDDLEBURG AND IT IS LOCATED NORTH OF ORIGINAL PART. SO REALLY BELONGS IN THE MIDDLEBURG AREA THE CITIZENS OF A PSEUDO-HAVE A COMMITTEE IN KEYSTONE BUT IF WE DID THEY WOULD NOT IT'S NOT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD KIND OF THING. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO DO IS IF WE CAN GET A MOTION TO REAPPOINT BELINDA JOHNSON AND NATIVIDAD SANTOS SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO MEET TO BRING BACK THE MAPS OF MY TWO AREAS OF KEYSTONE IN THE MIDDLE OR MAY CROSS OVER INTO COMMISSIONER BURKE IS AREA A LITTLE BIT CHARISSE WAS SAYING WE MIGHT WANT TO GO TO THUNDER ROAD AND USE THAT AS A DIVIDING LINE LOOKING AT THE MAP SO IT'S NOT JUST AND IN SPACE. 
          IN THE BRING BACK THAT MAP THE KEYSTONE MAP TO REVISE THEM AND THEN WE WOULD STILL FILL WE WOULD STILL NEED TO FILL THE REMAINING SEATS. AND THESE FOLKS WOULD STAY ON AS APPLICANTS. IF THAT WOULD PLEASE THE BOARD. 
          >> ARE YOU SAYING THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE ALL FROM KEYSTONE? 
          >> NO, NONE OF THEM ARE. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO FIX THAT MAP BEFORE WE AT ANYONE ELSE 
          [02:50:05]
NEW TO THE COMMITTEE. I THINK IT COULD PLAY INTO WHERE I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHERE EACH OF THESE FIVE FOLKS LIVE BUT I WOULD WANT TO BE ABLE TO INCLUDE THEM IF ONE OF THEM LIVES IN THEIR AND THERE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD IN MY DISTRICT IN THIS DISTRICT THAT IS IN THE KEYSTONE SECTION THAT SHOULDN'T BE LONGLEAF PINE OR LONGLEAF WHATEVER, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? ANYWAY, IT DIVIDES THAT WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD SO IF ONE OF THESE PEOPLE LIVED OUTSIDE OF THAT BUT WANTED TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE THEY COULDN'T BE AND I WANT TO GIVE IT A FAIR SHAKE. I DON'T SPECIFICALLY KNOW WHERE THESE PEOPLE LIVE. 
          I KNOW TWO OF THEM BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE. BUT AT ANY RATE, I WANTED TO BE FAIR ABOUT THE MIDDLEBURG WHOLE MIDDLEBURG, CLAY HILL COMMITTEE VERSUS A LIMITING POSSIBLY SOMEONE IF THAT'S OKAY. IF THAT'S OKAY. 
          >> I HAVE NO OBJECTION. 
          >> SO WOULD SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT BELINDA JOHNSON AND NATIVIDAD SANTOS? 
          >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION JOHNSON AND SANTOS TO REAPPOINT JOHNSON AND SANTOS. 
          >> AND OKAY, DO I HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. BOX AYE. 
          >> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE FIVE APPLICATION FOR THE FIVE REMAINING SEATS SIT TIGHT ONCE WE FIX THE MAP WILL BE RECONSIDERING YOUR APPLICATIONS. I THINK WE WILL HAVE ENOUGH APPLICANTS TO DO THAT. WE WILL HAVE UP TO 11. BUT BY REAPPOINTING THE TWO TONIGHT THEY AT LEAST --. MR. VANGUNDY HE DID NOT SEEK REAPPOINTMENT. 
          HE HAD AN UNFORTUNATE FAMILY REASON. SEND HIM OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS AND APPRECIATE HIS SERVICE. HE WAS ACTUALLY A VERY ACTIVE MEMBER SO SORRY THAT HAPPENED. OKAY, ANY OTHER ITEMS ON THAT ONE? 
          [29.  Bid Opening Tabulations (K. Smith)]
OUR LETTERS OF DOCUMENTATION. THE LONG-AWAITED RFP BID TABULATION'S ARE BACK FOR OUR 
          [30.  Clay County Urban County Requalification Notification]
          [31.  August 2, 2023 TDC Meeting Minutes]
CONTRACT SO IMAGINE THOSE WILL BE COMING SOON. OUR URBAN COUNTY REQUALIFICATION NOTIFICATION AND OUR TDC MINUTES ARE ALL IN PTHE BACK FOR OUR REVIEW. 
          [PUBLIC COMMENTS]
WE ARE AT OUR SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND I HAVE GOTTEN A MESSAGE THAT WHILE HE COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT OUR U.S. REPRESENTATIVE AARON DEAN HAS ASKED CHRISTINA TO BRING US A SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT. 
          >> HE WASN'T ELECTED TO US. 
          >> IF ONLY. MY NAME IS CHRISTINA TROUP I'M WITH THE OFFICE OF AARON DEAN PRESENTING FOR THE DISTRICT 4. I HEARD FROM THE CONGRESSMAN TODAY FROM ABOUT 515 THAT A DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION GRANT WAS AWARDED TO THE CLAY COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. FOR $300,000 TO BE USED FOR DEVELOPMENT OF A COMPREHENSIVE SAFETY ACTION PLAN AS PART OF A PROGRAM CALLED SAFE STREETS AND ROADS FOR ALL. 
          HE IS VERY EXCITED TO GET THIS NEWS AND HE WANTED ME TO SHARE IT WITH ALL OF YOU SOON AS WE GOT THAT INFORMATION. 
          >> THANK YOU, CHRISTINA, WE APPRECIATE IT 
          >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 
          >> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? COME ON UP, SIR. 
          >> MARK 242 COURT LAKE ASBURY. I WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS SOMEWHAT BASED UPON WHAT I HEARD TODAY EARLIER IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT IS GOING ON. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS I AM CONCERNED ABOUT BUT ALSO INTERESTED IN IS THAT LARGE DEVELPMENTS ARE ALLOWED TO USE HIRED INSPECTORS, PRIVATE INSPECTORS. 
          EXPERIENCE HAS SHOWN THAT ANYTIME YOU HAVE A LEVEL OF SEPARATION FROM THE OWNER THE QUALITY OF THOSE INSPECTIONS AND QUALITY OF COMMISSION GOES DOWN CONSIDERABLY. 
          [02:55:03]
DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE GOOD COMPANY OR THAT COMPANY OR SOMETHING IN BETWEEN WHICH IS MOST ALL COMPANIES. SO IT'S MY CONCERN FIRST THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE BUYING THESE HOMES DON'T REALIZE THAT THESE HOMES ARE NOT INSPECTED BY THE COUNTY. 
          EVERYBODY ASSUMES THAT THE COUNTY INSPECTOR HAS BEEN OTHER AND LOOKED AT THE PIECE OF PROPERTY AND HAS CERTIFIED THE PROPERTY IS ACCURATE. AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE. 
          I HAVE A LOT OF ANECDOTAL INFORMATION THAT THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE BEING PUT IN PLACE OUT IN THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS HAVE PROBLEMS, PROBLEMS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN EASILY CAUGHT THAT USUALLY THE COMMENT LINE IS THE WARRANTY WILL CATCH IT. 
          AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE BECAUSE THE WARRANTY PROCESS IS A LONG ARDUOUS PROCESS. 
          AND SO, A GOOD COMPANY MAY THINK THAT THEY'RE OPERATING IN GOOD FAITH WHEN ACTUALLY THEY'RE NOT REALLY OPERATING IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE INDIVIDUAL. 
          SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING IN AND YOU PUT IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEY ARE PUTTING IN THESE LARGE BUILDINGS AND SMALL SPACE THAT CAUSES PROBLEMS AND THOSE PROBLEMS COME TO LIGHT IN JUST A FEW YEARS IF YOU GO AROUND AND SEE HOMES AND DEVELPMENTS THAT LOOK VERY WARM OR YOU CAN SEE ROADS THAT ARE COLLAPSING. I WOULD LIKE THE COMMISSION TO THINK ABOUT LOOKING FOR MEANS OF HAVING COUNTY INSPECTORS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THESE INSPECTIONS. IN A MORE DILIGENT WAY. AGAIN, GOOD INSPECTORS OUT THERE ARE MISSING A LOT AND COMMISSIONING PROCESS JUST LIKE A HOME INSPECTION PROCESS PRODUCES GREATER FRUIT WHEN IS THE OWNER THAT IS DOING IT. GENERALLY, AT LEAST 40 -70 PERCENT WHEN YOU LOOK AT RETURN ON INVESTMENT WHEN IT COMES TO COST-BENEFIT. 
          THEY COULD PERHAPS PAY FOR ANOTHER COUNTY PERSON TO BE ON STAFF TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS BECAUSE YOU HAVE STAFF THAT HAS MORE WORK THAN A TIME. 
          I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH AND MEET WITH SEVERAL OF THEM THEY ARE TRYING THAT THEY ARE MOOTED AND THEIR ABILITY TO DO THINGS. AND SINCE WE ARE TALKING THE SHELL READY, SORRY, THANK YOU. 
          >> I WORKED THANK YOU I APPRECIATE IT. ANYONE ELSE WANTING TO SPEAK? IT WAS ACTUALLY GOOD INFORMATION, THANK YOU. COMMISSION AUDITOR. 
          [COUNTY MANAGER]
COUNTY ATTORNEY. COUNTY MANAGER. 
          >> MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS, JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS. FIRST OF ALL, TO REEMPHASIZE VETERANS DAY AT CAMP LANDING MUSEUM SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 11, FROM 11 AM TO 3 PM THERE WILL BE LUNCH SERVED THERE AND WORLD WAR II PRICES FOR BURGERS AND HOTDOGS AND AT THOSE ITEMS. WHAT WAS IT? NOT APRIL. T-SHIRTS FOR THE FIRST 100 VETERANS THAT COME IN. WE ARE ALSO TRYING TO EXPAND OUT THERE WITH SOME VEHICLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT IS THE ADDRESS IS 5629 STATE ROAD 16 NUMBER 3040 STARK, FLORIDA, 32 019. MAKE SURE PEOPLE CAN COME OUT TO THAT. 
          SECOND IS OPERATION GREENLIGHT 2023 IS UPCOMING. 6 TO 12 NOVEMBER IF YOU ALL REMEMBER LAST YEAR 'S AND INVITE BY THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AND THERE ARE 3069 COUNTIES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES AND THEY ASK AND INVITE COUNTIES AND COMMUNITIES TO LIGHT THEIR PORCH OR LIKED THEIR FACILITIES IN GREEN AND IT SHOWS SUPPORT FOR VETERANS VIOLATING THESE BUILDINGS AND HOMES SHOWING VETERANS THAT THEY ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE AND SUPPORT. BY THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO WE HAVE THAT ONGOING AGAIN IF YOU REMEMBER THE OUTSIDE I THINK JANE IS A COUPLE OTHER IDEAS ON LIGHTING UP THE GREEN BUT IT'S NOT JUST OUR BUILDING IT SHOULD BE OTHERS OUT THERE SO THEY SENT OUT AN EMAIL EARLIER TODAY TO PLEASE SHARE THAT EMAIL WITH YOUR FRIENDS, YOUR NEIGHBORS AND REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING EVERYTHING LIT UP. 
          THE OTHER COMMENT I HAVE HAS ALREADY BEEN TAKEN CARE OF AND PENDING ANY QUESTIONS THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          [COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]
          >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNTY MANAGER? THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. ANYONE WANT TO GO FIRST? 
          >> I WILL GO FIRST BECAUSE I WANT TO TAG ONTO IT TO COUNTY MANAGER SAID. 
          VETERANS DAY IS COMING UP NOVEMBER 11, RIGHT? A LOT OF CELEBRATIONS 
          [03:00:01]
THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE REGION YOU HAVE ORANGE PARK IS GOING TO HAVE ONE ONCE AGAIN 11 AM AT THE ORANGE PARK CEMETERY. HAVEN WILL HAVE ONE A CHILI COOKOFF THE SAME DAY WITH PROCEEDS GOING TO FRIENDS OF THE TOWN OF ORANGE PARK PARKS SO ONCE AGAIN TRYING TO GET SUPPORT FOR THE PARK SYSTEM SO IF YOU WANT TO DRIVE DOWN TO JACKSONVILLE THERE'S A HUGE GRADE VETERANS DAY. DOWNTOWN JACKSONVILLE. IT STARTS AT 11:01 AM I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE OLD ONE COMES FROM. BACK TO THE OPERATION GREENLIGHT THAT THY MAY GO NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY INITIATIVE BUT LIKE IS A VERY EASY WAY TO SHOW SUPPORT. AND SO, WANTED ASK IF WHEN WE BUILD OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET WHERE THE OUT PLATING DOWN LIGHTING IS PART OF THE DISCRETE CONSTRUCTION SUCH THAT YOU CAN PROMOTE BREAST CANCER, YOU CAN PROMOTE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS WITH DIFFERENT COLORED LIGHTS, YOU CAN SEE THE BRIDGES DOWNTOWN ARE ALL ENHANCED WITH DIFFERENT LIGHTS BUT THEY HAD TO ADD THEM ON TO THE BRIDGE IF WE CONSIDER THEM WHEN WE BUILD THE BUILDING LIKE ORANGE PARK HOSPITAL BUILD THAT INTO THEIR CONSTRUCTION PLAN. 
          IT'S REALLY EASY TO FLICK A SWITCH AND HAVE A DIFFERENT COLORED LIGHT. 
          IT'S FAIRLY INEXPENSIVE. LAST THING I HAVE IS ORANGE PARK ART GUILD IS 50 YEARS OLD AND HAVING A STUDIO TOUR THIS WEEKEND SO IF YOU HAVE A DESIRE TO GO LOOK AT SOME DIFFERENT STREAMS CALL -- GET A TICKET $10 A VISIT THROUGHOUT CLAY COUNTY. 
          SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          >> OKAY, WHO'S NEXT? ANYBODY? 
          >> I WILL GO. 
          >> COMPETITION AT EITHER END OF THE DAY IS. COMMISSIONER COMPERE. 
          >> A COUPLE OF THINGS THE ORANGE PARK FALL FESTIVAL LAST WEEK AND WAS AMAZING. 
          THE WEATHER WAS GREAT, THE ATTENDANCE WAS GREAT. MY SOCIAL MEDIA FEEDS WERE FULL OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND JOIN THE ELEMENTS OF BEING THERE AND SO KUDOS TO THE TOWN OF ORANGE PARK AND EVERYBODY WHO HAS COME OUT TO MAKE THAT EVENT A SUCCESS IT WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. THE SECOND THING FOR TONIGHT'S THE OAKLEY INAUGURAL CHRISTMAS. 
          THIS YEAR DECEMBER 9 FROM 6 PM TO 9 PM. THE COMMUNITY IS SUPER EXCITED WE HAVE BEEN SEEING A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES. 
          THERE WILL BE VENDORS, FOOD TRUCKS, I WAS CAUTIONED NOT TO SAY TOO MUCH SO JUST KNOW THERE IS A LOT GOING ON IF YOU ARE INTERESTED. THE OAK LEAF COMMUNITY EVENTS PAGE ON FACEBOOK MAYBE IG IS UP AND RUNNING PLEASE GO SIGN UP AND PARTICIPATE. 
          MY SISTER SARAH IS HEADING UP THAT PROJECT AND SHE'S REALLY EXCITED. 
          SARAH IS QUEEN OF CHRISTMAS. WE AFFECTIONATELY CALL HER. SHE IS GETTING A LOT OF SUPPORT OUT THERE AND SO OAK LEAF, ORANGE PARK, NEIGHBORING PARTS OF THE COUNTY PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COME OUT DECEMBER 9 FROM 6 PM TO 9 PM. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE GOT, THANK YOU. 
          >> SINCE COMMISSIONER BURKE HAS CONVINCED ME TO LET HER GO LAST I WILL JUMP IN HERE. 
          THANKS TO ALL STAFF IS ALWAYS WHAT YOU SEE IN THE COURSE OF THE MEETING IS LIKE A LITTLE PART OF THE ICEBERG THAT SITS ABOVE THE WATER ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT GOES ON BELOW THE WATER YOU DON'T SEE AND IT'S ALL DEPARTMENTS SO WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          IF YOU WERE NOT OUT THIS PAST WEEKEND AND JOIN CLAY COUNTY WITH AS MANY ACTIVITIES AS THERE WERE AND YOU MUST NOT HAVE BEEN WITHIN THE COUNTY LINES. 
          THAT SHOWS THE VIBRANCY OF OUR COMMUNITY. IT SHOWS WHAT TOURISM HAS BEEN DOING, IT SHOWS YOU PEOPLE HAVE HARPED ON THE IDEA THAT WE LOST OUR SMALL TOWN FEEL IF YOU'RE OUT AT ANY OF THESE EVENTS IT DID NOT FEEL THAT WAY. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO BRING UP TODAY I JUST FORGOT TO GET ALL THE INFO BUT I WILL GIVE YOU ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND. 
          IN TERMS OF COMPANY CALLED NICHE THEY RATE THE DIFFERENT CITIES, DIFFERENT COUNTIES, DIFFERENT SCHOOL BOARDS, SCHOOL SYSTEMS IN THE LATEST 2023 RANKINGS AND I DID NOT LOOK AT 
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ALL OF THEM I JUST LOOKED AT THE BEST COUNTY TO LIVE IN IN FLORIDA WE WERE NUMBER 10 OF 67. RIGHT, SO THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. COULD IT BE BETTER? YEAH, WE CAN WORK ON SEE IF WE CAN'T MOVE OUT. EITHER WAY, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM ACCORDING TO NICHE WAS NUMBER ONE. SO I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED BY THAT. I THINK SEMINAL COUNTY CAYMAN IS NUMBER ONE FOR VARIOUS REASONS YOU CAN LOOK THAT UP IF YOU LIKE. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW AS PART OF OUR ISSUE WE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD AT IT REACHING OUT AND WORKING WITH THE FOLKS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA OF OUR COUNTY. AS OF FRIDAY WE'VE GOT A RATHER BIG EVENT IS A FOOD TRUCK / TRUNK OR TREAT PUMPKIN FESTIVA . WE HAVE A NUMBER OF COLLABORATORS IN THE CHAMBER IS GOING TO BE THERE OF COURSE IMPACT CLAY THE FOLKS AT THE ASBURY METHODIST CHURCH IN THE CORNER OF COLLEGE AND BRANDON ARE HOSTING. 
          IN THE SIX OR SEVEN FOOD TRUCKS IS A BIG DEAL IT'S THIS FRIDAY BETWEEN 6 AND 8 PM. 
          THE COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE IS WORKING WITH GOT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE NOW INVOLVED IN GETTING PEOPLE OUT AND TAKING PRIDE IN THEIR AREA AND I THINK IT'S ANYTHING THE COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE HAS REALLY HELPED WITH THAT ASPECT OF IT. HOPE TO SEE YOU ON FRIDAY BETWEEN 6 PM AND AGAIN. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. 
          >> COMMISSIONER BURKE. 
          >> >> I HAVE A COUPLE I WAS DIGGING UP THE TRUNK OR TREAT THEY ARE HAVING THIS ON A SUNDAY NIGHT. 
          I HAD A QUESTION FROM TEACHERS AT SPRINGER PARK ELEMENTARY THAT HANDLE AFTER SCHOOL I GUESS BEFORE AND AFTER ACTIVITY THEY ARE WANTING TO KNOW WHEN THE SIDEWALK WILL BE DONE. 
          DO WE HAVE AN ANSWER ON THAT? HE SAID IS REALLY TREACHEROUS TO NOT HAVE IT. 
          >> THE SIDEWALK DOWNS TOWARD MANUALLY TO ADMIT DINA THE CONSTRUCTION IS IN THE PURCHASE ORDER NOW. WE GOT PERMISSION TO BUILD THE SIDEWALK TO THE WETLANDS THERE'S A WETLANDS ACROSS THE CREEK WE NEED TO GET SOME CONTACT AT MAGNOLIA WE DID GET SOME FROM ST. JOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT TO TAKE IT TO THE HOA PARCEL IF THEY WANT YOU TO CONNECT TO ONE OF THE STREETS AND GREEN COVE SPRINGS SO GOING TO EXTEND THE SIDEWALK I THINK IS ABOUT 1200 FEET DOWN AS FAR AS WE CAN GO AT THIS TIME AND THEY WILL BEGIN THE PERMITTING PROCESS WHICH WILL TAKE ABOUT A YEAR TO GET IT DOWN TO THE END OF THE STREET. 
          BUT WE DO HAVE PERMISSION IF THEY WANT TO GO FROM THE SIDEWALK THAT WE COMPLETED DUE EAST INTO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGH AN HOA OWNED PARCEL THERE'S NO WETLANDS THERE. 
          IT'S ABOUT 250 FEET BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT'S NOT PART OF OUR BUDGET TO DO THAT. 
          >> SO IS THAT GOING TO HELP THEM I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, PERSONALLY. 
          WILL THAT HELP THEM. 
          >> IT WILL HELP THEM IF THE HOA WANTS TO BUILD A SIDEWALK WORD THE CITY OF GREEN COVE SPRINGS TO CONNECT. 
          >> IS A POINT OUT THE ELEMENTARY, IS NOT LONG ENOUGH TO HELP THEM? 
          >> THEY CAN WALK ON IT BUT IT DOESN'T GO WE CANNOT GO ANY FURTHER SOUTH, THE WAY IT WORKS IS MY DINO ROAD COMES OFF OF COUNTY ROAD 315 INTO MAGNOLIA INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUR GOAL IS GET THE SIDE WALK FROM THE ICE AND I THINK TO MEDINA WE WETLANDS IN BETWEEN. 
          WE FEEL WILL BE A YEAR TO GET THE FUNDING AND PERMITTING AND GET THE ST. JOHNS WATER MANAGEMENT TO CROSS IT WILL TAKE SOME SORT OF A BRIDGE FOR A MAJOR MITIGATION AND CLEARING OF TREES AND SUCH. WE ARE GOING TO GET TO THAT POINT AND THEN WE HAVE TO STOP. 
          >> SO AS FAR AS THE SCHOOL BOARD THEY CAN ALLOW THE KIDS TO WALK THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE CONNECTIVITY, RIGHT? X THERE'S NO CONNECTIVITY TO AN EXISTING STREET THE CLOSEST TO GET TO IT WOULD BE GOING INTO THE SEMI CITY LIMITS OF THE SPRINGS AND IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS ON THAT MR. COUNTY MANAGER IF WE COULD COORDINATE SOMETHING THERE BUT IT'S ALSO ON PROPERTY WE DON'T OWN IT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY. LEX IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING BEFORE SCHOOL STARTED WE LET THEM KNOW WE WOULD BE DOING THEM SO WE WOULD ONLY HAVE TO 
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BE TEMPORARILY BUSTING THE KIDS SO NOW IT'S GOING TO BE MORE THAN A YEAR? 
          >> THAT'S HOW LONG THE PERMIT PROCESS TAKES WE WILL DO IT AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN IT'S ALREADY STARTED. 
          >> CAN WE COMMUNICATE TO THE SCHOOL BOARD ON THAT? 
          >> I TALKED TO LANCE ADDISON. 
          >> THEY ARE NOT COMMUNICATING TO THE TEACHERS, I GUESS. I WILL LET THEM KNOW. 
          >> WE TALKED TO LANCE ADDISON DISTRICT EMPLOYEE I DON'T KNOW ANY MEMBERS. 
          >> VERY GOOD, MY LAST BIG DEAL HERE IS THAT IT IS TIME TO LOOK INTO THE MORATORIUM EXTENSION AGAIN. AND DUE TO INCOMPLETE ROADWORK AND DEFINITELY NOT HAVING ENOUGH WITH THE CURRENT CAPACITY NOTHING HAS REALLY CHANGED WITH THE ROADS. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK COURTNEY IF SHE COULD BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD MEETING IN NOVEMBER BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO ADVERTISE IT TO BE AND TO THE NOVEMBER 28 MEETING. 
          IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYONE? 
          >> WE STILL NEED THE UPDATE ON THE HOMES IN LAKE ASBURY THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR THAT DISCUSSION. 
          >> WE ARE UNABLE TO DO WHAT I WAS TOLD BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A BRIDGE IN AND OUT AND OURS IS DIFFERENT. 
          >> I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT ALL I KNOW IS THAT THE COMMISSIONER CELLA ASKED ABOUT A NUMBER. 
          >> I ASKED CHARISSE AFTER YOU ASKED. 
          >> I WAS GOING TO SAY I WOULD HAVE MY REPORT NEXT --. 
          >> YEAH, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONER RENNINGER. LEX IT HAS COME TO MY 
          >> IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT THEY HAD ASKED US FOR A DESIGNATION OF A VETERAN OF THE YEAR AND WE SUBMITTED ONE ANSELL WAS DELETED AS OUR IN HER VETERAN OF THE YEAR. 
          THIS YEAR I REQUESTED FROM CONGRESSMAN DEAN'S OFFICE IF THEY WERE GOING TO DO THAT BUT VETERANS COUNCIL IS ASKING US IF WE COULD SELECT A VETERAN OF THE YEAR FROM CLAY COUNTY. 
          AND THEY HAVE TWO PROPOSALS SO I WOULD LIKE THE BOARD'S CONCURRENCE THAT WE INITIATE THE DESIGNATION OF A VETERAN OF THE YEAR SOMEBODY WHO HAS DONE SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN DRUM UP SOME REQUIREMENTS AND SELECT A VETERAN OF THE YEAR FOR CLAY COUNTY PERCEPTION TO ANY UPPER ECHELON TYPE DESIGNATION OR SELECTION. I WOULD LIKE COMMISSIONS CONCURRENCE REINSTITUTED A VETERAN OF THE YEAR SELECTION. 
          >> I AM FINE WITH THAT AS LONG AS THERE IS CRITERIA I DON'T WANT TO BECOME A POPULARITY CONTEST. 
          >> IF WE HAVE A BOARD CONCURRENCE WE WILL DRAW UP SOME CRITERIA IN THE SELECTION COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENT AND THAT TYPE STUFF. 
          >> MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, TOO. WE CAN ASSIGN THAT TO GABBY I ALREADY GAVE HER A HEADS UP AND IF WE COULD GET CONCURRENCE ON IT. WILL COME UP WITH THE CRITERIA MAYBE THE NEXT BOARD MEETING WE CAN RESET, OKAY, PERFECT SO WE WILL BRING THAT BACK TO THE BOARD AND THIS'LL BE A GREAT THING THAT OUR VETERAN OF THE YEAR WOULD BE ABLE TO COMPETE NATIONALLY AND BE RECOGNIZED AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. 
          >> ANYTHING ELSE? 
          >> YOU HEARD ME COUGHING I HAVE BEEN SICK FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS. LAST WEEKEND, WHEN I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE RESTING AND GETTING BETTER I WAS PLAYING ON MY SMART PHONE AND SO IF YOU LIVE IN THE COUNTRY IN THE OLD DAYS YOU LISTEN TO THE SKIN BUT YOU DON'T HAVE A SCANNER LIKE TO WATCH POLLS POINTS THAT HAVE ALL! THE TOLD YOU WHAT'S GOING ON WITH HER WONDERFUL CLAY COUNTY FIRE RESCUE STAFF WHICH IS KIND OF ALARMING TO ME THE NUMBER OF VEGETATION FIRES THEY HAD TO RESPOND TO SPECIFICALLY LAST SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING ADJUSTING TO ONE AFTER ANOTHER SO AS THE WEATHER IS GETTING COOLER WE ARE NOW INTO ABOUT 10 DAYS OUT OF HAVING ANY RAIN AND WHEN THERE IS WIND AND THERE'S A FRONT COMING THROUGH PLEASE BE CAREFUL ABOUT BURNING MAKE SURE YOU PER THE ORDINANCE NOT IN FLEMING ISLAND AS WE GOT A CALL LAST YEAR WE GOT A CALL SOMEONE WAS BURNING IN FLEMING ISLAND AND SMOKING OF THE NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR AT ANY RATE 
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IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS CALL CLAY COUNTY FIRE RESCUE NOT 911 CALL CLAY COUNTY FIRE RESCUE AND ASK WHEN IT'S OKAY TO BURN. NOT SAYING IT'S A BONFIRE SEASON EVERYONE ENJOYS THE COOLER WEATHER BUT IT NEEDS TO BE SAFELY AND PROPERLY WE DEVALUE OUR CLAY COUNTY FIRE
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.