Aug 01, 2023 BCC Workshop

[CALL TO ORDER]

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>> CHAIR: LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. BEFORE WE MOVED TO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT, I WILL LET YOU RECOGNIZE THAT ARE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS WHO ARE HERE TODAY, SOME OF THEM HAVE SOME THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO ADD ON TO OUR PROJECT LIST.

I THINK I WILL GO LADIES FIRST. OUR TAX COLLECTOR DIANE HUTCHINS IS HERE AND WE WILL HAVE HER COME ON UP.

>> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING, NICE TO SEE EVERYONE HERE.

MY OFFICE HAS BEEN VERY BUSY TRYING TO UPGRADE OUR SERVICES BECAUSE OF THE COMING FLOOD OF PEOPLE.

WE HAVE MOVED TO MIDDLEBURG, YOU ARE AWARE OF THAT.

HE WILL ALSO FROM PARK AVENUE TO KINGSLEY AVENUE IN THE PLAZA. WE WILL HAVE A LOT MORE SPACE FOR LESS PER SQUARE FOOT, SO IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

FINALLY, WE WANTED TO MOVE OUR OFFICE IN KEYSTONE WE ARE PAYING $1700 A MONTH OVER TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

I CAN PUT IT IN MY BUDGET BUT SINCE IT IS A COUNTY BUILDING, I ASSUMED IT WOULD BE IN YOUR BUDGET.

THAT IS THE FORMER HEALTH APARTMENT BUILDING.

IF WE DO THAT, WE WILL BE ABLE TO INCREASE SERVICES BECAUSE WE ARE WE ARE RIGHT NOW WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO ROAD TEST, SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO ROAD TEST AS WELL.

>> HAS THERE BEEN ANY EXPECTATIONS ON WHAT THAT

RENOVATION WOULD COST? >> I HAVENOT BEEN IN IT YET .

>> OKAY. I KNOW IT HAS BEEN LEASED AND THAT IS BEING VACATED AUGUST 15.

>> YES, I WILL GO AND AFTER THAT DATE.

>> WHERE IS IT? >> COMMERCIAL CIRCLE, RIGHT

BESIDE THE SENIOR CENTER. >> TRACY DRAKE, OUR PROPERTY

APPRAISER?>> HELLO, GOOD MORNING.

ONE OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES AS PROPERTY APPRAISERS IS THAT WE HAVE TO PHYSICALLY REINSPECT OR INSPECT ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE COUNTY EVERY YEAR. SO, TO DO THAT, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A FLEET OF NINE VEHICLES. I REQUEST IS FAIRLY SIMPLE, WE WOULD LIKE TO START REPLACING THOSE VEHICLES, TWO PER YEAR BEGINNING IN FISCAL YEAR 2526. THE VEHICLES WE HAVE CURRENTLY A PURCHASE BETWEEN 2014 AND 2018.

WE WILL START REPLACING THEM AT THE 10 YEAR MARK.

THE VEHICLES AT THAT POINT WOULD HAVE ROUGHLY 100,000 MILES PER VEHICLE. OBVIOUSLY MADISON FIVE YEARS TO PURCHASE VEHICLES. THE LAST TIME HE PURCHASED, TWO RAN US 50,000. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE INFATION RATE IS NOW WITH THE NUMBER WOULD LOOK LIKE, I WOULD ASSUME MAYBE 60,000 FOR TWO VEHICLES. WE ASSIST WITH DAMAGE ASSESSMENTS, SO FOR US TO PURCHASE, WE WILL TYPICALLY PURCHASE FOUR-WHEEL-DRIVE VEHICLE SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE CAN ACCESS DIRT ROADS AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

THAT WOULD BE A REQUEST, TWO PER YEAR BEGINNING IN FISCAL

YEAR 2526. >> CHAIR: ANY QUESTIONS FOR TRACY? THANK YOU.

AND, OUR SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS, CHRIS.

>> GOOD MORNING. SO, OUR CIP ASK IS BUILT AROUND THE FACT THAT THERE IS A 10 YEAR END-OF-LIFE REQUIREMENT ON THE BOWLING EQUIPMENT HERE IN CLAY COUNTY.

CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW, FOR 80 OF THOSE UNITS, WE ARE AT APPROXIMATELY 14 YEARS . THERE ARE A COUPLEOF REASONS

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HOWEVER, WE HAVE REACHED THE POINT TO WHERE THE CURRENT FIRMWARE WILL NOT OPERATE GIVEN THE HORSEPOWER, IF YOU WILL, OF THE EQUIPMENT.SO AT THE TIME IT WAS MANUFACTURED, 14 YEARS AGO, IT WAS LEADING EDGE TECHNOLOGY WITH ENOUGH RAM AND CPU TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE. IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE ADDED ALL THE RAM THAT YOU CAN TOO THE UNITS.

WE DID THAT PROBABLY TWO YEARS AFTER PURCHASE.

CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, THE NEW REVISION THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR SYSTEMS WILL NOT OPERATE WITH THE NEW FIRMWARE.

SO, IN ORDER TO REMEDY THAT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE THE OLDEST PIECES FIRST. THAT IS 80 1.2 UNITS.

WE WILL GO FROM DS 200 1.2 TWO DS 300 WHICH WILL OPERATE THE NEW FIRMWARE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WILL ALSO BE UPDATING THE DS 850 WHICH IS OUR HIGH-SPEED CENTRAL COUNT UNITS. WE HAVE TWO OF THOSE, AND WILL UPGRADE THOSE TO THE LATEST DS 950.

THE RATIONALE BEHIND THIS UPGRADES ARE NOT NECESSARILY PERFORMANCE AND SPEED, BUT MORE SO WILL MAKE US OR ENABLE US, TO BE ABLE TO REPORT MORE INFORMATION IN A MORE DETAIL, WHICH IN THESPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO . AFTER THAT TIME, YOU WILL SEE LATER DOWN THE ROAD, I BELIEVE IT IS 2030, WE WILL HAVE THE REMAINING 32 UNITS THAT WE ADDED FOR GROWTH PREVIOUSLY, BUT THEY ARE THE LATEST 1.3. WE WILL BE UPGRADING THOSEAGAIN IN 2030 . AT THE SAME TIME, WE WILL BE UPGRADING OUR EE POLE BOOKS WHICH RIGHT NOW ARE GOING INTO ITS LAST PHASE OF END-OF-LIFE. SO, THE TOTAL ACQUISITION FOR THE EQUIPMENT IS $900 AND OF COURSE IN ADDITION TO THAT, SUSAN, 900,000. THAT SOUNDS BETTER DOESN'T IT?

>> I WAS READY TO GIVE YOU TWO OF THEM.

[LAUGHTER]. >> THE TOTAL ASK IS NINE $50,800. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> CHAIR: IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE IT.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING IS AHEAD OF TIME AND LETTING US HAVE THE SHOCK BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

I'M KIDDING, WE APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU DO AND WE WANT OUR ELECTIONS TO BE TRANSPARENT AND SAFE.

>> I THINK AS ANY OTHER TIME, THEMONEY YOU SPEND WILL BE WELL SPENT . I REMEMBER OUR ORIGINAL ACQUISITION WHEN WE WENT FROM PUNCHCARDS TO THE TECHNICAL UNITS THAT WE WERE USING FROM PUNCHCARDS.

IT WAS ROUGHLY RIGHT AT $600,000 WAS THE TOTAL ACQUISITION. I REMEMBER VOLUSIA COUNTY AT THE TIME SPENT $1.6 MILLION IN LITIGATION COSTS FOR THE 2000 ELECTION. I THINK IT WILL BE MONEY WELL

SPENT. >> IT'S A VAST IMPROVEMENT OF

THINKING OF THINGS.>> CHAIR: RICK, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING FROM THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE? OKAY, THANKS.

FINALLY, WE HAVE RECEIVED RIGHT REPRESENTING SHERIFF COOK THIS

MORNING. LAST BUT NOT LEAST.>> GOOD MORNING. AS YOU CAN SEE, I AM A LITTLE BIT TALLER THAN THE SHERIFF JUST A FEW THINGS THAT SHE

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THE MORE PEOPLE WE GET HERE IN THE COUNTY, THE MORE PEOPLE WILL END UP IN OUR JAIL. OF COURSE, WE HAVE AN EXTENSION NOW IN ADDITION IT WILL PROBABLY TAKE US 5 TO 7 YEARS FROM NOW. AS YOU GROW AND THE COUNTY GROWS, WE WILL NEED A NEW JAIL EVENTUALLY.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING.

>> THANKS FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING.

I'LL HAVE COMMON CARTER PUBLIC COMMENT, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO

[1.  Revenue and Projections]

>> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. TROY NAGEL, ASSISTANT COUNTY MANAGER TODAY, WE WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE CIP IN DETAIL AND GO PAGE BY PAGE LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

DEBBIE AND RICH WILL START OFF GOING WITH THE REVENUES WILL LOOK LIKE AND HOW THE CIP IS CREATED, THEN WE WILL GO PAGE BY PAGE. THIS IS A WORKING SESSION SO FEEL FREE TO SAY THIS PROJECT NEEDS TO BE ADDED AND YOU WILL TAKE THAT FEDBACK BACK AS WE DEVELOP THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AND PRESENT TO YOU IN SEPTEMBER WITH THE FULL CIP AND OPERATING COUNTY BUDGET ALL AS ONE PACKAGE.

I WILL TURN IT OVER TO DEBBIE AND SHE WILL START WITH THE

REVENUES. >> GOOD MORNING.

OUR FIRST SLIDE, WHAT IS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS? OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE FUNDED BY THE SALES, DISCRETIONARY SALES TAX. IT IS GENERALLY REGARDED AS ANYTHING, A CAPITAL PROJECT IS ANYTHING THAT HAS THE USEFUL LIFE OF FIVE YEARS OR MORE.AS A COST OF $25,000 OR MORE AND INCREASES CAPACITY.THAT'S BASICALLY THE PARAMETERS FOR A CIP PROJECT. OTHER ITEMS HAVE RESTRICTIONS SUCH AS MOBILITY FEES, THE COMPREHENSIVE IMPACT FEES FROM YOUR GRANTS AND YOUR BOND REVENUE, THOSE ARE ALL RESTRICTED FUNDS. THOSE ARE VERY SPECIFIC TO THOSE PROJECTS. HOW IS IT CREATED? WE START WITH THE DEPARTMENT AND CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS GIVING US A REQUEST FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

THEY DETAIL IT OUT, WE HAVE A SCHEDULE WHERE THEY BREAK IT OUT WITH DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION AND IF YOU NEED TO PURCHASE LAND, THEY PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER.

THEY PUT IT TOGETHER IN THEIR FIVE-YEAR SCOPE AND ALSO TELL US WHAT THE REVENUE SOURCES THAT THEY ARE EXPECTING.

ALL AND BE AS THE PROJECT TO THE CIP TABLE.

WE HAD TO HAVE IT BALANCED FOR THE FIVE YEARS.

PROJECTS ARE SUBMITTED TO THE BCC FOR REVIEW RELATED TO THE TIMING AND IF THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECTS.

WE DO NOT ADD ANY INFLATIONARY FACTORS TO THOSE DOLLARS FIVE YEARS OUT. SAME WITH THE REVENUES, WE DO NOT INCREASE THOSE AND WE TRY TO KEEP IT VERY CONSISTENT.

ONB TAKES DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD AND UPDATE THE CIP TABLES TO ENSURE IT MEETS REQUIREMENTS AND PRIORITIES.

THE BCC REVIEWS AND APPROVES THE CIP AS A PART OF THE OVERALL BUDGET. WHEN WE COME TO YOU IN SEPTEMBER, THE CIP TABLE WILL BE ADOPTED FOR THE OPERATIONAL BUDGETS. THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, THE CIP IS

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MAKE ADJUSTMENTS FROM THE CIP. >> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

WHEN THE DEPARTMENT PROJECTS WITH THE COST WILL BE IN THE REVENUE SOURCES, THE QUESTION REVOLVES AROUND GRANTS.

GRANTS CAN BE FULLY FUNDED OR MATCHED.

HOW DO WE SEE THE MATCH PART? I KNOW YOU PROVE IT, THESE GRANTS TAKE 2 TO 3 YEARS. DO WE ANNOTATE GRANT FUNDED PROJECTS TO SHOW WHAT WAS COUNTY MONEY AND GRANT MONEY?

>> WE HAVE THE INNER TABLE WHICH IS VERY INVOLVED.

>> I SEE THAT, BUT TO WHAT EXTENT IS THE MATCH? DO I SEE THAT SOMEWHERE THAT I CAN REFER TO?

>> WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL OVER THE LONG TERM.

THAT IS JUST A RECOMMENDATION. >> THE COST AND REVENUE PROJECTIONS ARE MAINTAINED REGULARLY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> IS THE GAS AND SALES-TAX ALWAYS DIFFERENT WHEN HE GETS TO THE END?

>> WE LOOK FOR THE REVENUE ESTIMATES FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE AROUND THE JULY TIMEFRAME.I RECEIVED SOME OF THEM AND ALL OF THEM. A LOT OF TIMES THEY HAVE UPDATED AGAIN. WE ARE BASICALLY UPDATING IT.

>> SO IT VARIES?IT IS ALWAYS HIGHER OR LOWER BUT USUALLY THE

SAME? >> )LAST YEAR WHEN WE GET ESTIMATES INTIMATELY WERE VERY LOW.

THE INCREASE INNOVEMBER SO WE ADJUSTED THAT .

>> THANK YOU. >> PEOPLE TURN OVER TO THE REVENUE PAGE. THE SECOND OPTION GAS TAX IS THE ONLY ONE USED IN THE CIP. THE OTHERS ARE USED IN THE TRANSPORTATION TRUST FUND AS MAINTENANCE OF THE ROADS BUT THE SECOND OPTION IS PRIMARILY CONSTRUCTION OF NEW ROADS.

HE REMINDED AND IMPACT FEES AND ANYTHING ELSE TO FILL THE GAPS TO FILL THE GAS TAX ON THOSE. THE OTHER MAJOR ONE IS DISCRETIONARY SALES TAX. WE JUST GOT THE NUMBERS IN NOW, THAT CAME IN OVER $33 MILLION. WE ARE PAYING ABOUT 8.4 MILLION IN DEBT SERVICE. THE BALANCE COMES OVER TO THE CIP SO THAT CAME OUT TO $25 MILLION.

THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY REVENUE SOURCES AND YOU ALSO HAVE YOUR GRANTS ON TOP OF THAT DOWN BELOW YOU CAN SEE THAT THE MOBILITY FEES AND IMPACT FEES . IMPACT FEES ARE STARTING TO COME IN NOW AND MOBILITY FEES WE HAVE HAD ONE YEAR.

WE ARE LOOKING AT $79 MILLION OF THOSE ANNUALLY.

THE REQUESTS ARE ALWAYS COMING IN FASTER THAN THE MONEY IS SO WE HAD TO SLOWTHE ROLE ON THAT ONE .

THAT'S GREAT, YOU CAN USE THESE THINGS BUT THEY'RE NOT COMING IN AS ROBUSTLY AS YOU MAY HAVE HOPED.

IF WE JUMP OVER TO THE CIP TABLE.

>> WOULD YOU MIND EXPLAINING THE 25 MILLION? I CANNOT CATCH EVERYTHING YOU ARE SAYING.

>> THAT'S FROM THE SALES SURTAX.

PROJECTIONS WE ARE 33 AND CHANGE.

THE FIRST OBLIGATION FOR THE SALES TAX IS FOR THE BONDED DEBT WHICH IS ABOUT 8.4 MILLION PER YEAR.

THAT IS TRANSFERRED OVER TO THAT FUND TO PAY THAT DEBT.

33-825. AS THINGS CHANGE, EVEN INTEREST

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IT'S ALWAYS A HUNGRY MOUTH. ON THE CIP TABLE, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN THE CIP TABLE. OVER ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, WE SEE THE LEGEND WILL BE EXPLAINED IN THE FUNDING CODES.

THAT IS THE BACKBONE OF THOSE HOPING TO KEEP TRACK OF THAT THING. YOU CAN SEE WHAT IS GETTING PAID WITH THE SALES SURTAX AND WHAT IS GOING TO BE PAID WITH THE IMPACT FEES AND ANY MOBILITY FEES AND BONDS STUFF AND NEW GRANTS. WAS HAPPENING NOW IS THERE SUCH A COBBLING TOGETHEROF TRYING TO FIND THE PROJECT .

EVERY TIME I TURN AROUND IT'S GOING UP THE IMPACT FEES OBVIOUSLY MOBILITY FEES . WE JUST GOT A GRANTIN THEIR MAKING CALLS . THAT GETS SHUFFLED IN THEIR.

IF THE CONSTANT LITTLE OF THIS, LITTLE OF THAT.

IT WORK SEPARATELY IN THAT IT HELPS US KEEP TRACK OF WHAT IS LEFT. IF WE ARE ONLY USING $700,000 FROM THIS 400,000 FROM THAT, IT LEAVES US A LITTLE SOMETHING HERE BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS I CANNOT BE FLEXIBLE TO FIND THEM, SO ALWAYS TRY TO BE CONSCIOUS OFTHAT .

IF YOU HAVE TO COMMIT A CERTAI REVENUE STREAM TO THIS COMMAND HAVE TO GO THERE AND WE WILL SEE WHAT IT HAS .

IT'S DIFFICULT TO KEEP TRACK OF OUR TIMES, BUT THIS IS IS OUR TOOL TO KEEPTRACK OF IT . I HAVE BASICALLY TWO QUESTIONS, HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT AND WHEN DO YOU NEED IT? THE TIMING IS EVERYTHING NOW. SOMETIMES WHEN A PROJECT IS PUT TOGETHER, YOU ARE MISSED ABOUT THINGSTHAT WILL GO .

IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE USING THIS NOW, I CAN USE IT FOR THIS PROJECT READY TO GO. THE TIMING OF EVERYTHING IS VERY IMPORTANT. OVERALL, WE ARE LOOKING AT FIVE YEARS. IF YOU ARE TRUTHFUL AND SAY THIS IS REALLY ONLY YEAR THREE OR TWO, THIS EASES THE BURDEN OF TRYING TO BALANCE THE LATER YEARS.

WE HAVE COLOR-CODED SOME OF THE ENTIREROPE MEANS THE NEW PROJECT . IF YOU ARE JUST CHANGING SOMETHING IN THE COLUMNS OF THE NUMBERS, AND MEANS EITHER A RELATION TO HOW THINGS ARE GOING, THE TIMING CHANGE.

NOW YOU CAN SHIFT $1 MILLION THIS WAY OR A FLAT OUT NUMBER CHANGE THAT WILL COST 12 MILLION, NOT 2 MILLION.

THAT IS KEEPING YOU AWARE. I REMEMBER A QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER COMPERE ON HOW TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE OF CHANGING FROM 10 MILLION TO 12 MILLION? ALL WE CAN SHOW IS THE PREVIOUS ONE WAS $10 MILLION AND NOW IT IS $12 MILLION.

HIS KEEPING TRACK OF THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT.

I'LL TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO SHOW THAT IS HERE.

BUT WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH WHAT IS CHANGING NOW.

WE HAVE A NOTES DOWN HERE, ALL NONPARTIES ARE ADDED ON THE CIP TABLE THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN FOR THE BEST WAY TO INTRODUCE A PROJECT IS TO DO IT IN YEAR FIVE AND WATCH IT MARCH FORWARD. THEN YOU WOULD KNOW MORE OF HOW

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THAT WAS PROBABLY MORE THAN I WAS SUPPOSED TO SAY.

>> CHAIR: GOOD EXPLANATION, THANK YOU.

>> WHAT I UNDERSTOOD FROM WHAT YOU SAID IS THAT WE NEED TO GET REALISTIC ABOUT WHEN THOSE FUNDS WERE GOING TO GET SPANKED. WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS IT TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT WHEN THOSE FUNDS WILL GET SPANKED?

>> I WILL LOOK TO THE PROJECT MANAGER.

BOOTS ON THE GROUND AS FAR AS WHAT IS GOING ON, ACQUIRING LAND, GETTING PERMITS, MAKING SURE THERE IS ENOUGH MATERIAL TO DO THE PROJECT. GETTING EVERYTHING LINED UP.

WHEN YOU ARE FINALLY READY TO START DIGGING DIRT, WHETHER IT IS A ROTOR BUILDING TO BUILDIN .

>> IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS, I THINK IT WAS DEBBIE DOZING THE DEPARTMENTS FILL OUT INDIVIDUAL PROJECT WORKSHEETS.THOSE WERE COMING OUT THOSE WORKSHEETS ARE THE ONES WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALSO LETTING RAGE KNOW IT'S REAL TO THOSE FUNDS WILL BE SPENT. YOU ARE STRUGGLING TO HAVE THAT COME THROUGH FOR PROJECT SHOULD BE ADDED HERE FIVE BUT THEY ARE

BEING ADDED A LOT SOONER. >> - - COMES FORWARD AND SAYS HE WILL GIVE YOU 1.2 MILLION TO THE DISUTILITY PROJECT WHILE YOU WERE THERE, THAT'S AN ADDED REVEUE SOURCE AND TAKE THE HEAT OFF THE MONEY. IF THEY CAN SEE THAT THINGS ARE GOT HELD BACK PERMITTING OR RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION AT THE TIME. THE SOONER I KNOW THAT IS HAPPENING, THE STATE MAY STEP IN AND SAY - -. THERE WAS 100 WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING MONEY FROM THE STATE BUT IT KEEPS GETTING DELAYED. THE PROJECT WILL GET DELAYED.

I THINK IT HAPPENED UNTIL THE STATE MONEY COMES IN AND WHAT IS THE POINT OF HAVING THIS MONEY UP FRONT?

>> MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, I THINK THIS WOULD BE REALLY GOOD. YOU CAN BETTER AS A TEAM BECAUSE WE PUT THE ENTIRE DOLLAR AMOUNT IN ONE FISCAL YEAR. HERE IF YOU LOOK AT THE HIGHLIGHT OF BERGENFIELD, IF YOU EXPLAIN THESE DOLLAR AMOUNTS AND WHY YOU GOT TO THOSE MULTIYEAR STAIR, THAT WILL PROVIDE SOME INSIGHTS TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE BEING MORE REALISTIC ON WHEN THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT WILL

HAPPEN. >> FOR A PROJECT LIKE THAT, THE FIRST THING IS TO BE HAD THE LAND? THE SECOND THING ABOUT THIS DESIGN.

DESIGN ALWAYS SEEMS TO LAG LONGER THAN IT SHOULD.

IT'S USUALLY LASTING OVER A YEAR AS FAR AS DESIGN GOES.

HAND-IN-HAND LET YOU KNOW DESIGNWISE THEN YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE PERMITS AND ALL THAT. DEPENDING ON WHO YOU'RE WORKING WITH, EPA OR WHATEVER, THE PERMITTING PROCESS CAN TAKE LONGER. HOW MUCH ARE YOU GOING TO BE LAYING OUT FOR THE DESIGN?WE HAVE ANOTHER LINE FOR LAND ACQUISITION THAT WORKS HAND-IN-HAND WITH THE PROJECT, JUST DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH LAND WE ARE THINKING OF GETTING.

IT'S A LOT OF PREP WORK AND THAT IS THAT THE UPFRONT MONEY IS. LOOKING AT 24 Ã25, THAT IS

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IT MAY BE AN 18 MONTH BILLS. RIGHT NOW THEY ARE SPLITTING EASILY. IT CAN BE 3 MILLION THAT FIRST YEAR WAS TO EXPLAIN THE NEXT YEAR.

IT'S CONSTANTLY SHIFTING. >> IF IT'S EXPLAIN THE FIRST YEAR IN YOU: WITH THE CHANGE, RIGHT?

>> IT DEPENDS ON THE TIMING OF IT.

>> CHAIR: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I WILL HAVE A QUESTION BUT MAYBE JUST A SUGGESTION OR START THE DISCUSSION IN REGARDS TO CHANGES IN CIP. OFTENTIMES, HE HAS REAMS OF PAPER AND HAS GOTTEN ONE LITTLE YELLOW BOX, I WILL CHANGE THAT BOX IS THERE A WAY FOR US RATHER 10 TO GET ALL OF THIS IS AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY? YOU'RE THE ONE THAT I AM CHANGING. IT WASN'T EVEN LIKE THIS, IT

WAS LIKE THIS. >> RATHER THAN GIVE US 16 PAGE

. >> WE WILL PUT A COVER SHEET ON IT. THE THOUGHT WAS THAT WE INCLUDED EVERYTHING AND WE MUST NOT BALANCE AND NOT BE IN THE NEGATIVE. WHEN HE DOES THIS, IT BECOMES VERY COMPLICATED. THAT BOX BEING ALONE - -.

>> WHEN WE DO PRESENT THAT, IN OUR BATTLE RHYTHM WE CALL IT LIKE WE DO IT YEAR TO YEAR, AT THE SIX-MONTH MARK OF THE FISCAL YEAR, WE ARE NOW COMING TO THE BOARD TALKED ABOUT THE CHANGES TOO. THIS GIVES THE BOARD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WHAT NEEDS TO MOVE OUT OR MOVE IN? TO COMMISSIONER RENNINGER!, IF YOU HAVE 6.5 AND HAVE ABUDGET OF 4.5, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM . ON THIS, WE WILL GIVE A COVER SHEET ON IT SO IT WILL ADDRESS THE YELLOW SQUARES AND BOXES.

HERE'S THE FIDELITY BEHIND IT, WHAT IS HAPPENING? WAS AN INFLATIONARY INCREASE, WAS THERE A GRANT OR EXTERNAL REVENUE THAT CAME IN TO HELP OUT? THINGS LIKE THAT. WE WILL GET BETTER AT DOING

THAT PROVIDING MORE FIDELITY. >> CHAIR: OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS?HEART STARTING TO BE A LITTLE FASTER.

[2.  Discussion of Grant\Appropriation Funded Projects]

MEGAN, YOU ARE UP NEXT. >> GOOD MORNING, MEGAN MOSTLY WITH THE KRANTZ DIVISION. THERE WERE SIX REVENUE BASE IN THE PROJECT THEY ARE ASSIGNED TO.

SOMETIMES THERE REQUIREMENTS AND MASS REVENUE AND EXPENSES ARE ALL PROGRAMMED INTO THE OVERALL CIP.

>> QUESTION ON THAT MEGAN, I ASKED IT TO HOWARD AND COURTNEY YESTERDAY BUT IT IS WORTHWHIE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION HERE.

ON OUR NEXT AGENDA, WE HAVE AN ITEM THAT WE ARE VOTING ON THE DISAPPROVAL TO APPLY FOR A GRANT.

IT HAS A MATCH ASSIGNED TO IT BUT THERE IS NO DOLLAR AMOUNT AN APPLICATION YET BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WILL GET, THEREFORE WE ARE NO WITH THE OBLIGATION WILL BE.F WE APPLY FOR A GRANT, ARE WE OBLIGATED TO ACCEPT IT?

>> NO, THAT IS THE BOARD'S DISCRETION ALL THOSE AGREEMENTS OVER $50,000 COMES TO THE BOARD SO I MATCH IS ALSO APPROVED AT THAT TIME. WE GET TWO OPPORTUNITIES.

WE GO TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT AND ONCE WE GET IT, WE VOTE TO

ACCEPT IT. >> THIS SLIDE SHOWS AN OVERVIEW

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ONLY THE GRANT PORTION OF THE PROJECT IS SHOWN, THE OVERALL COST IS REFLECTED IN THE OVERALL COST PAGES.THE ITEMS IN ORANGE ARE GRANT AGREEMENT THAT ARE NOT YET BEEN EXECUTED BUT ARE ANTICIPATED. FOR EXAMPLE, THE AUGUST 8 BCC AGENDA YOU WILL SEE THE GRANT AGREEMENT FOR THE SPORTS COMPLEX TURN LANES AND ALSO THE HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT PROGRAM AGREEMENT FOR THE BRANCH PROJECT.

THE SPENCER INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX LISTED ON HERE AT THE BOTTOM IS STILL AN APPLICATION NOT YET APPROVED, BUT THIS IS ONE THAT WE DO ANTICIPATE RECEIVING. IT'S INCLUDED HERE FOR REFERENCE BECAUSE IF AWARDED, THERE WOULD BE A 25% MATCH WHICH WE NEED TO BE INCLUDED FOR CIP FOR NEXT YEAR.

ALL OTHER PROJECTS ON HERE ARE APPROPRIATION REQUESTS.

AGAIN, WE DO ANTICIPATE RECEIVING THOSE AGREEMENTS OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS SINCE THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADOPTED AS A PART OF THE STATE'S BUDGET.

>> SPENCER COMPLEX IS A DEL? >> YES.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU.

[3.  10 Overall Project Plan (CIP\Impact\Mobility)]

>> WE KIND OF GLAZE OVER THE FACT THAT IS $26 MILLION OF

GRANT MONEY. >> THE HIGHLIGHT WAS HUMAN FROM 10 MILLION TO 16MILLION YEAR-OVER-YEAR .

THAT'S GRANT AND APPROPRIATIONS.

BOTH OF THOSE SIDES WORKING VERY HARD TO BRING IN OTHER NEW DOLLARS TO THE COUNTY, TO 60% INCREASE YEAR-OVER-YEAR JUSTIN

CIP. >> WE WILL START WITH BONDED ROAD BUDGETS, YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THESE.

THEY MUST BE USED FOR FY 2425. HER TOTAL BOND PROJECTS IN THE CIP RIGHT NOW ARE AT 170 MILLION.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON BONDS.

>> THEY HAVE TO BE USED BY 24 Ã 25 BUT WE DON'T GET ALL OF 24 Ã

25. >> CORRECT.

>> MARCH. >> MARCH 2025?

>> YES. >> DOES THAT MEAN THE PROJECT HAS TO BE COMPLETE AND BILLS PLAYED PAID BY THE CLERK'S

OFFICE BY MARCH 2025? >> IT HAS TO BE PAID OUT BY

MARCH. >> AS THE COUNTY MANAGER POINTED OUT, WE HAVE GOT 4.6 MILLION THAT NEEDS TO BE SPENT IN 25 Ã26 IS MOBILITY AT THAT POINT.

>> MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT FOR TAXPAYERS THAT ARE LOOKING AT THE BIG NUMBERS. WE BONDED 130 MILLION WHICH WILL BE TAUGHT THE TIME TO TAKE CARE OF CONSTRUCTING THE PROJECT THE TEAM HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR THE BETTER PART OF A COUPLE OF YEARS. WITH THE INCREASED COSTS OF INFLATION, THE BILL FOR SOME OF THE PROJECTS IS 170 MILLION.

REMAKING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN - - FEES AND TAXES GET CAUGHT COLLECTED LOCALLY IS LIKE GOING TO THE CAR DEALERSHIP AND YOU BUY YOUR CAR AT ONE PRICE AND YOU DRIVE IT OUT AND THEY SAY NOW IT'S 14,000. IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THE CAR,

YOU HAVE TO PAY THE DIFFERENCE. >> AND YOU DON'T GET THE FANCY

PAINT JOB. >> YOU MAY HAVE TO SEND BACK A SEATBELT OR TWO, WHO KNOWS. IT HAS BEEN VERY IMPORTANT FOR ED AND HIS TEAM TO BE ABLE TO SIT AN ENGINEER, VALUE ENGINEER THAT MAKE DECISIONS AND WHAT THE COST WILL BE INSTEAD OF GETTING TO THE END OF FINDING OUT IT WILL BE X NUMBER PERCENTAGE OVER WHAT YOU THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE.

>> THE KEY THERE IS THAT AFFECTS OTHER PROJECTS THAT EXIST BECAUSE THAT'S MOBILITY FEEDOLLARS THAT THE MOVE THIS PROJECT .YES, IT IS A CONSTANT, HOW DO WE CONTINUE THIS PROJECT AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL?

>> WE ARE FORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE HAD IS MOBILITY FEEDOLLARS TO BE ABLE TO USE . THOSE ARE LITTLE BIT MORE

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THOSE HAVE TO BE SPENT BY THE THIRD DEADLINE FOR MOBILITY

FUTURE NOT. >> MOBILITY FEES HAVE I THINK

EIGHT YEARS. >> EIGHT YEARS FROM COLLECTION?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BONDED

PROJECTS? >> COMMISSIONER: I JUST HAVE A COMMENT. EVERYTHING HAVING MY DISTRICT I'VE BEEN ASKED REGULARLY, WHAT ARE WE SPENDING THIS MONEY ON COMING IN FROM THESE HOMES? A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK IT IS SITTING THERE AND WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHINGTO HELP THE ROADS .I THINK THIS SPEAKS A LOT TO THAT.

IT IS CONFUSING I THINK THE PEOPLETHAT WE HAVE SO MANY HOUSES COMING IN . IT'S BEING USED DEFINITELY TO BETTER THE COUNTY AND THIS IS A PART OF THAT FOR SURE.

>> RIGHT IN YOUR DISTRICT IS WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING.

THAT'S $40 MILLION THAT WE DO NOT PLAN ON.

>> WE ARE STILL HAVING TO GO FROM DRILLING TO TWO LAND AND WE WILL HAVE MONEY FOR THAT. DOING THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHAT

WE HAVE. >> ANYTHING ELSE?

OKAY. >> . THIS IS THE START, IT WILL BE A COUPLE OF PAGES OF ENGINEERING IN PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS.

TIME TO PUT HIGHLIGHT OVER TO THE SIDE.

WE INCREASE THE DIRT ROAD PAVING FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.

IT WILL BE 2.3 MILLION. WE ADDED A DIRT ROAD REJUVENATION PROJECT, ADDED THE LIVE OAK - - BILLINGS PROGRAM AND AS MEGAN INDICATED WE ADDED THE SPENCER COMPLEX AND INDIGO BRANCH BECAUSE WE ARE ANTICIPATING BOTH OF THOSE AGREEMENTS IN THE NEAR FUTURE SO WE WANTED TO FACTOR THEM INTO THE CIP. THE NEXT TWO PAGES CONTINUE ON

WITH THE PROJECTS. >> CHEST WITH OAKS, THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THEIR GRANT THERE, WITH THE

PLAN THERE? >> I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF ANY

GRANT APPLICATION. >> WE CAN LOOK INTO IT.

>> IS THAT TERESA AND MEGAN'S GROUP?

>> IT'S ON THE BUDGET AND HERE IN THE CIP.

>> IT'S A PLACEHOLDER THAT WE HAD ON THE LIST BECAUSE IT'S A PART OF THE COUNTY SAID THEY WANTED TO DO, HOWEVER THE PRICE TAG, I DON'T KNOW IF RICHARD HAS A CURRENT ESTIMATE, IT'S ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT TO PUT THAT INTO THE CIP WERE BASICALLY MAKE US TAKE OUT A LOT OF PROJECTS OUT OF THE CIP.

>> CAN YOU ALSO TALK ABOUT RICHARD BUT THAT PROJECT WOULD ENTAIL? THAT IS IMPORTANT.

>> RICHARD SMITH, CLAY COUNTY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

IT'S PROBABLY MORE NOTES PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY AS OAKLEAF PLANTATION PARKWAY EXTENSION. THE EXTENDED FROM THE NEW EXPRESSWAY EASTERLY. AT THAT POINT IT CONNECTS NORTH-SOUTH TO ARGYLE AND DUVALL COUNTY.

IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT CONNECTION FOR THE COUNTY BECAUSE THERE'S AN AREA OF THE COUNTY THAT IS ISOLATED FROM PUBLIC SERVICES SUCH AS FIRE. WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH DUVALL COUNTY AS WELL AS THE SCHOOL BUSES THAT DO THE SAME.

IT WOULD BE A TREMENDOUSLY IMPORTANT VERY GOOD LINK TO HAVE. IT JUST COMES WITH A VERY HIGH PRICE TAG. IT ACROSS A CREEK KNOWN AS DOUBLE BRANCH AND WE ARE LOOKING AT PROBABLY A 15 TO 20 MILLION ARE CROSSING BECAUSE OF THE EXTENT OF THE WETLANDS THERE. IT'S NOT A BRIDGE LIKE OVER BLACK CREEK ON 218 IN MIDDLEBURG FOR INSTANCE.

IT'S A LONG BRIDGE WITH A LOT OF WETLANDS TO TRAVERSE.

WE DO HAVE A GRANT WHICH WILL AMOUNT TO THE FIRST HALF-MILE TO MILE OF IT WHICH WILL ALSO INCLUDE COMPLETING THE

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THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING STUDIED BY THE TURNPIKE AUTHORITY TO GIVE US PROVISION TO COMPLETE THAT WORK FOR THAT STUDY IS DUE TO BE COMPLETED PROBABLY SPRING 2024.

WE WILL THEN BEGIN DESIGN WORK, WEHAVE A DEVELOPER THAT IS WORKING . IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY ON THE EAST SIDE OF 23 READY FOR DEVELOPMENT. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND FORPERMITTING . THAT WILL GIVE US THE 1ST MILE OF IT BUILT BY A DEVELOPER. THEN WE JUST GOT TO PLAN FOR IT TO BE EXTENDED. FIRETHORN COMES OFF OF BLANDING BOULEVARD I THINK. THAT WILL BE ANOTHER SPUR OFF OF IT, BUT THE INTENT IS ALWAYS TO CONNECT OAKLEAF PLANTATION PARKWAY INTO THAT AREA SOUTH OF ARGYLE.

>> WE HAVE THAT ON OUR TPO PRIORITY, JUST NOT WITHIN THE

TOP FIVE. >> THEY HAVE HAD IT ON THIS AS I WAS HIRED. IT DEFINITELY PREDATES ME SO PROBABLY AS TROY SAID, IT'S A FIVE-YEAR PLACEHOLDER BACK EVEN

THEN. >> SOMEONE TOLD ME A NUMBER RECENTLY OF THE LAST TIME THIS WAS ESTIMATED WITH THE PROJECT

WOULD COST. >> IT SEEMS LIKE I HAVE SEEN 10

OR 12 MILLION ON THEIR. >> I THOUGHT THAT WAS ON OUR BONDED ROAD PROJECT LIST AT SOME POINT .

>> THE CROSSING ALONE IS A BIG CROSSING JUST TO GET ACROSS THE DOUBLE BRANCH. IT'S A LONG ROAD TOO, CLOSE TO 2 TO 4 MILES. WE DON'T OWN ANY OF THE PROPERTY. THAT'S ANOTHER IMPORTANT

ELEMENT. >> THE APPROPRIATION RICHARD WAS REFERRING TO WOULD REQUIRE A GRANT MODIFICATION BECAUSE OF THE OLD STATE ROAD 23 GRANT THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE USING.

>> CORRECT, IT DOES BUILD THE FIRST 1500 2000 FEET OF IT DEPENDING ON HOW FAR IT GOES. THE DEVELOPER WILL CONTINUE THAT EASTERLY APPROVED ROUTE THAT WE WERE ALREADY PLANNING

FOR. >> IS $3 MILLION OF A $30

MILLION PROJECT. >> YES AND THAT $30 MILLION IS

NOT A $30 MILLION PROJECT. >> THAT'S THE DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD. THE PAST DIRECTION HAS BEEN THERE THE PROJECTS THAT THE BOARD WANTS US TO TRY TO FIND.

A LOT OF TIMES IF WE DON'T HAVE ON A LIST WE CAN GO FOR A GRANT WILL NOTICE SOME COMMITMENT FROM THE COUNTY THAT IS THE PROJECT THAT YOU WANT. IT'S A BOARD DECISION, IT IS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO LEAVE ON THE LIST OR TAKE OFF THE LIS? IF YOU LIVED ON THE LIST THAT'S LOOK FOR OTHER FUNDING IF YOU TAKE IT OFF, AND MAKES IT HARDERFOR US TO GO FIGHT FOR FUNDING . THAT'S TRULY THE BOARD'S DECISION. THAT IS WHY YOU SEE SO MANY MORE PROJECT ADDED TO THE LIST. THAT'S THE WAY WE CAN USE THAT AS A PROJECT LIST TO SUBMIT FOR GRANT FUNDING.

>> I AM VERY CURIOUS AS TO HOW WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THIS PIECEMEAL. I APPRECIATE THAT COMING UP WITH COMMISSIONER RENNINGER BECAUSE I'M GETTING THOSE COMPLAINTS ALL DAY LONG. THAT'S THE PART OF THE COUNTY THAT WESHARE . THE BIGGEST FRUSTRATION IS THANKFULLY, OUR CONSTITUENTS DO NOT WANT TO BE IN DUVALL.

THEY ARE VERY CLEAR THAT THEY HATE HAVING TO DRIVE THROUGH DUVALL AND THERE IS NO WAY AROUND IT.

>> THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION OF HOW WE WILL BE ABLE TO PHRASE

THAT ARE NOT PHRASE IT. >> THERE WILL BE SOME RELIEF COMMISSIONER COMPERE SOONER THAN LATER WITH A PROPOSED ROAD

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WOULD APPROVE. >> THAT IS A MILE.

>> IS A PRIORITY. IT'S A CHOICE IF YOU WANT TO SPEND THAT THERE OR ELSEWHERE. WHEN I' TALKING ABOUT IS A NEW ROAD THAT WILL GO FROM THE PARK WHERE WE HAD THE COVID TESTING AND RESPONSE ACROSS THE EXPRESSWAY OF OAKLEAF HIGH SCHOOL IT WILL GO SOUTH TO THE INTERCHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT AREA AT THE EAST SIDE OF OAK LEAF INTERCHANGE.

IT IS STILL NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE ISSUE, IT WILL JUST MAKE THOSE FOLKS A LITTLE CLOSER TO SERVICES IN CLAY COUNTY.

>> THESE ARE THE REST OF ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT . THERE'S COLLEGE DRIVE AND THE REMAINING IMPACT THE MOBILITY AND ONE MORE SLIDE.

IF YOU ARE GOOD TO MY WILL OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY.

>> DO YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THE PROJECTS INDIVIDUALLY?

>> WE ARE DOING ULI STUDIES AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING FOR WELLS ROAD. SHOULD WE HAVE A LINE ITEM IN THEIR FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE PURSUING ALREADY? WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO BE BUT THAT WILL PROVIDE THE EMPHASIS TO LOOK FOR GRANTS. I RECOMMEND WE DO THAT.

THERE IS NO PLACEHOLDER IN THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN.

>> WE WILL HAVE THE BLANDING REVITALIZATION.

>> WE CAN ADD THOSE. >> ,HAVE ALSO BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD LAST WEEK ABOUT VETERANS PARK AND ADDING THAT? I DON'T KNOW YET THAT YOU WANT TO ASSIGN ANY DOLLARS FOR IT TO ADD LEAST BE ON THE HORIZON TO LOOK AT THIS.

>> WE ADDED A LOT OF FULL-LINE YELLOW, DO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS

THAT? >> WHAT WE DID TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON THE ORANGE AND WE CAN WALK THROUGH EACH PROJECT INDIVIDUALLY IF YOU WOULD LIKE, THE 220 AND COLLEGE DRIVE ARE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS, WITH THE STAFF THAT WAS WE WILL FIND ALL THESE AT ONE TIME SO BREAK THEM DOWNTO COMPONENTS . I THINK YOU WILL SEE EIGHT DIFFERENT COMPONENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE FUNDED AS CIP.

SAME THING WITH COLLEGE DRIVE, BE PREPARED TO SEVERAL PROJECTS. WE CAN GO LINE BY LINE IF YOU WILL LIKE HIM IS THE BOARD'S DISCRETION.

>> A LOT OF THESE ARE ON HERE SIMPLY FOR GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.

>> WE ADDED THE MOBILITY FEES LAST TIME, WE NEEDED A PLACE TO ATTRACT THEM. BASICALLY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMMITTING TO WHAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO.

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>> THERE ARE SOME THINGS ON HERE THAT WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY SEEN LIKE HABITAT COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT IS.

>> I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO ENGINEERING.

>> THE HABITAT COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE ARE FAIRLY COMPLETE. WHAT'S LEFT TO BE DONE ON IT, WE STILL US IN CONCRETE REMEDIATION WORK ON THE MAIN ROAD COMING IN. THE TRANSFER WAS COMPLETED ABOUT A MONTH AGO. WE DID USE SOME ARPA MONEY ON THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PORTION IT WAS A PART OF THE RESURFACING PLAN FOR 220, 223 AND THE CONCRETE STUFF WILL SCOPE THAT. WE WILL SCOPE THAT POSSIBLY AS A PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT FOR IN-HOUSE PROJECTS.

>> OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BIG YELLOW BLOB?

>> MAILINGS ROADWAY, THAT THE NEW ADDITION.

>> IS A PRACTICE BECAUSE MAILINGS IS THE MOST RECYCLABLE MATERIAL IN THE WORLD, ASPHALT. THEREFORE, WE USE PRETTY MUCH THE ENTIRE PART OF IT ON THAT ONE.

WE GOT 27 MILES OF BILLINGS PILED UP.

WE CAN PUT ON THE 22 FOOT WIDE DIRT ROAD 6 INCHES THICK.

WHAT WE FOUND WAS ON ANY LARGE PROJECTS , IT KIND OF CONSUMES OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT EQUIPMENT AND MANPOWER TO WHERE THE NORMAL DAILY OPERATIONS ARE LIMITED.

WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS MONEY TO PAY AN OUTSIDE CONTRACTOR TO HAVE OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS COME IN SELECTIVE AND ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. THESE WILL BE THE LARGER DIRT ROADS PROJECTS. ONE OF THE TOP OF THE LIST IS ONE OFF OF CHALLENGER DRIVE IN THE OAK LEAF AREA.

IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE DANGEROUS TRIP.

THEY ARE NOT HAULED ON A FLATBED TRUCK OR ANYTHING, THEY GET OUT THERE AND NAVIGATE TRAFFIC.

THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE GOT ENOUGH MAILINGS TO GET THAT DONE. BUT IF WE DID THAT, PUBLIC WORKS WILL BE LIMITED IN THE REST OF THEIR CAPACITY WITH THE OTHER 640 MICHIGAN.B2 OF THE COUNTY.

THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR, WE DO HAVE AN ESTIMATE BUT I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS AS MUCH AS 30 TO 40 MILES OF DIRT ROADS THIS YEAR WITH $1 MILLION IS WHAT WE ARE PLANNING AND HAVE THE MATERIAL. WE'LL HAVE THE PURCHASE THIS MATERIAL FROM AN OUTSIDE SOURCE, IT'S PILED UP.

>> SO WE WILL CONTINUE BUT NOT AT THIS RATE?

AS RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE. >> WE CONTINUE RESURFACING, THERE WILL BE MAILINGS AVAILABLE AND IT'S A VERY GOOD FIRST STEP IN PREPARING THAT ROAD.

IT PREPARES THE ROAD TO GET PAVED.

WE ALSO TO THE ROAD FOR INSTANCE, THE DEVIL WOULD OVER ON DISCOVERY, THE DISCOVERY SIDE OF THE EXPRESSWAY.

THAT ROAD WE TOUCHED 17 TIMES A YEAR THIS YEAR WE DO NOT TOUCH ANY. WE WILL HAVE TO GO THERE.

IT WILL BE AN ON-CALL BASIS. WE HAVE A WASHOUT WE GET A CALL, WE GET A CALL OUT, WE GET A CALL.

THEY ARE VERY MAINTENANCE-FREE. THAT IS REALLY THE REASON.

70 TIMES A YEAR DRIVING THE TRACTOR UP 12 TO 14 MILES AN HOUR ON BLANDING IS PROBABLY NOT THE SAFEST TRIP THAT JOHN OR LADY MAKES ON THEIR DAY-TO-DAY COMMUTES.

>> WE HAVE THE SAME PLANS AND COMMISSIONER CELLA'S DISTRICT

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RIGHT? >> WE TOOK CARE OF THAT WHEN AN OLD CHURCH ROAD.THAT ONE WAS NUMBER THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT . THE PUBLIC WORKS PERMIT WILL STILL BE DOING WORK BUT WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS THE BIG ROADS, WE WILL FOCUS ON THE SMALLER ONES THE DIRT ROAD LIST HERE HAS ABOUT 500 ROADS ON HERE .

I THINK 30 OF THEM ARE OVER 1 MILE LONG.

THERE'S ABOUT 450+ ROADS THAT ARE BETWEEN 2/10 TO AND A HALF MILE LONG. THAT'S THE KIND OF PROJECTS THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WILL GO OUT THERE AND A COUPLE OF DAYS AND FIX. WE JUST CAN'T HAVE THEM GO TO BAYBERRY AND PINE OAKS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND SPENT THREE WEEKS DOING THAT. THE REST OF OUR SERVICES WOULD SUFFER. THAT IS THE JUSTIFICATION.

>> RICHARD, YOU WANT TO GO OVER THE OTHER TWO?

>> WE WILL GET ERIC TO COME UP ON THE DIRT ROAD REJUVENATION.

ON THE DIRT ROAD PAVING, WE ARE PROGRAM SIDE IN YOUR ALLOCATING MONEY TO PAY DIRT ROADS A LUMP SUM AMOUNT.

THIS YEAR WITH THE IRON FIST THE OFFICE OF BUDGET MANAGEMENT, THEY CAME UP WITH THE LIST.

WE GIVE THEM SIX ROADS LAID OUT WITH PROPOSED PRICES FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO DO THAT WORK. THAT'S THE REASON IT'S AN ODD NUMBER, THAT SIX DIFFERENT LINK PROJECTS.

THE SAME WITH THE RESURFACING LIST, WE GET A 95 ROADS THAT WILL BE RESURFACED. WE GET THAT CUTBACK 20% SO WE WILL PROBABLY END UP DOING 75 TO 80 OF THOSE WILL BE OF THE FIRST 15 FOR NEXT YEAR. THAT IS THE BABY WILL BUILD ON ITS. DIRT ROAD REJUVENATION, I WILL

LET ERIC TALK ABOUT THAT. >> CHAIR: I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE TAKEN THE TWO STUDIES, THE WRONG STUDY OF THE PAVED ROADS AND THE DIRT ROAD STUDY AND NOW WE ARE RECOGNIZING THAT MORE MONEY NEEDED TO BE ALLOCATED TO IT. THE STUDIES WERE WORTHWHILE TO SEE YOU NEXT YEAR'S ROAD RESURFACING LIST IF THE AMOUNT YOUR ALLOCATING TOWARDS ROAD RESURFACING IN CLAY COUNTY HAS DOUBLED SINCE I STARTED 2.5 YEARS AGO AS A COMMISSIONER BECAUSE IT NEEDED TO HAPPEN AND WE GET THE DATA TO SHOW WHICH ROADS NEEDED TO HAPPEN. THE STUDIES DON'T JUST GET DONE AND PUT ON THE SHELF, THEY HAVE PROVIDED DATA THAT WE NOW CAN MAKE MORE INFORMED DECISIONS O .

>> AGREED. WITH THAT RECYCLABLE PRODUCTS HAVING MORE OF IT TO GO OUT AND TOUCH MORE OF THESE 500 ROADS, IT MAY NOT BE THE FINAL IMPROVEMENT BUT IT IS AN IMPROVEMENT, DEFINITELY AN IMPROVEMENT.

GROWTH FROM OUR STANDPOINT OF 17+ TRIPS PER YEAR MAINTENANCE DOWN TO ZERO AND THE FOLKS THAT LIVE THERE.

>> GOOD MORNING, ERIC PULLED WITH PUBLIC WORKS.

I WILL TALK ABOUT THE DIRT ROAD REJUVENATION.

I SAID REJUVENATION, IT'S MORE OF A RESTORATIVE THE TURBO STUDY CAME AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW MANY ROADS, WE ARE LOOKING AT 210 DIRT ROADS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY PRIMARILY IN DISTRICT 4 AND FIVE.

WITH THAT 27 MILES WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, IT WILL ONLY TAKE CARE OF 12% OF THE ROADS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE DIRT ROAD AT THIS POINT THAT WILL GET MALES IN THE FUTURE.

WHAT IS REMAINING IS THE AMOUNT THEY CAME IN 790,000 LOOKING AT JUST REJUVENATING 60 MILES OF ROAD TO ABOUT 30% OF THE AVAILABLE ROADS THAT WE HAVE NOW.

REALISTICALLY, LOOKING IN THE PAST THREE YEARS, OUR BUDGET HAS COME BETWEEN 300,000 FOUR FY 21, 22, THEN WE INCREASED TO 600,000 FOR THIS YEAR AND PROJECTING FOR NEXT YEAR.

WHEN YOU TAKE THAT ALL, 75% IF THAT IS PUT INTO THE ROADS THEMSELVES. EVERY YEAR ON AVERAGE DUE TO DUST ALONE, WE LOSE 450 YD.B3 O MATERIAL PER MILE.

THAT COMES OUT TO BE 90,000 YD.B3.

YOU LOSE ABOUT 21 MILES WITH THE MATERIAL EVERY YEAR JUST FOR DUSTIN MILLIGAN. THIS PROJECT WOULD JUST BE

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ANY QUESTIONS? >> MATTER CHAIR, IF I MAY.

IF YOU DON'T MIND ERIC, TALK ABOUT BECAUSE IN DRY TIMES THE DIRT BLOWS AWAY THE THERE ARE MATERIALS AND THERE IS TECHNOLOGY OUT THERE TO HARDEN THE DIRT.THESE ARE NEW ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND WAYS TO DO THIS AND THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THERE WE ARE EXPLORING AND WOULD COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND BRIEF YOU ON. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, 21 MILES A YEAR IS LOST. IT BLOWS AWAY.

IT'S NOT A GOOD THING. WE WANTED TO STAY COMPETITIVE, REAL HOT WHINY POTHOLES.THE BIGGEST THING THAT KILLS IS AND HAS BEEN KILLING US LATELY IS THE AMOUNT OF RAIN IN THE RAINFALL. IT SEEMS FROM MY LIFETIME IT

WAS GETTING WORSE. >> THE STABILIZATION TYPE THINGS ARE ENZYMES. WE HAVE USED THEM ON LANDING STRIPS AND DIRT ROADS AND TYPICALLY WE USE THEM ON THE TRAINING AREAS AND ARE INSTALLATIONS ON THE CONTINENTAL U.S. SOME OF THE THINGS GO FROM A WIDEGAMUT OF NATURAL ENZYMES . THE ONE YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS A MIXTURE OF MOLASSES AND SUGAR. WHAT IT BASICALLY DOES - - LOOKING AT DOING INITIATIVES THIS YEAR.

IS THAT SHE WAS WORTH THE SQUEEZE? IS THE INVESTMENT DOING THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE ARE DOING. SOME OF THEM GREATLY VERY BETWEEN THE AMOUNT OF TIMES YOU HAVE TO SPRAY THEM AND THE AMOUNT TO SPRAY THEM. SOME OF THOSE REMARKABLY WORK VERY WELL. THE STREET NAME IS CALLED RHINO SNACKS. ENOUGH OF IT IS SPRAYED ON, MAYBE $1500 ON A DIRT STRIP, YOU CAN ACTUALLY LAND A C-17 AIRCRAFT WHICH PUTS 50,000 KIPS OF PRESSURE ONTO THE SOIL.

AT A SMALL AREA AND IT IS CONGESTED.

GOOD THINGS TO COME IN THE FUTURE HOPEFULLY.

>> THANKS ERIC, WE ARE GLAD YOU ARE HERE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON SPECIFIC ROADS?

>> IT MIGHT BE WORTHWHILE FOR RICHARD TO RUN DOWN THE ROAD CAVING WHICH DEFINITION IS PAVING DIRT ROADS AS OPPOSED TO THE ROAD RESURFACING WHICH IS RE-PAVING ASPHALT ROADS.

>> YOU WANT A DIRT ROAD PAVING? >> YES, IT'S A SPECIFIC NUMBER I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE GAME PLAN.

>> IT WAS NOT BASED ON A DIRT ROAD STUDY X. THESE ARE PRETTY MUCH BASED ON THE TROUBLESHOOTING.

WE ARE TWO ROADS ON THE EAST SIDE OF BLANDING BOULEVARD THAT WE HAVE TO DRIVE ALONG STATE ROAD 21 TO GET TO.

THEY ARE VERY SHORT ROADS. WE HAVE ASKED TO COMPLETE THOSE. WE HAVE GOT TWO IN THE KEYSTONE PROPER AREA OF THE CITY NEAR THE HIGH SCHOOL THAT ARE PRETTY

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A LOT OF THE SEDIMENT TRAINS DOWN TO THE HIGH SCHOOL WITH, IT'S A SITUATION AFTER EVERY RAINFALL THAT WE HAVE TO GO AN PCLEAN THE ROAD . WE GET A LOT OF CALLS ON THAT.

THEY ARE TOO TWO SHORT ROADS. SPANISH MOSS IS ANOTHER WE HAVE DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT WILL REALLY HELP ESTABLISH A SPINE.

WE HAVE THE SPINE DONE AND WILL COME IN AND MOBILIZE THE BUILDINGS, THESE ARE PROBABLY SMALL THE PUBLIC WORKS GOVERNMENT CAN DO TO COMPLETE THE OTHER ROADS ATTACHED TO IT.

THE OTHER ONE IS FIRE TOWER ROAD.

AS OUR NEWEST FIRESTATION . THIS LEAVES THE SAME CRITERIA, TRYING TO GET THE ONES THAT ARE DANGEROUS AND A PAIN TO PAVE.

OTHER ONES, THE NUMBER ONE ON THE LIST IS FOX TAIL.

IT'S IN MIDDLEBURG, TODD HAVE THE NAME OF THE SUBDIVISION.

IT'S BASICALLY AN ENTIRE SUBDIVISION BUILT I WOULD GUESS IN THE 30S AND 40S. ALL DIRT ROADS, STILL THERE.

VERY DENSE, SAME AS YOU WOULD SEE IN OAKLEY FOR FLEMING ISLAND WITH THE DIFFERENCE BEING AS FAR AS THE HOUSES BEING HUNDRED 50 FEET EXCEPT THESE ARE DIRT ROADS.

IT WOULD IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE, THAT IS WHAT THIS LIST SEEMS TO HAVE FOCUSED ON IS MORE OF THOSE TYPES OF FIELDS.

THOSE ARE THE SIX ROWS THAT WE ARE PLANNING THIS YEAR.

>> THANK YOU RICHARD. >> COMMISSIONER: I HAVE A QUESTION. THERE ARE COMPLAINTS ABOUT BIKE PATHS THAT ARE ASPHALT. THEN WE HAVE THE BIKE PATH AND ELEVATOR WOODEN BIKE PATH ON FLEMING ISLAND.

THERE IS NO PLAN FOR RENOVATION.

WE DON'T EVEN EVALUATE THEM I DON'T THINK.

SOONER OR LATER THERE IS AN IMPEDIMENT TO SAFETY.

SOONER OR LATER WE WILL HAVE TO REDO THE FACILITY FOR THE PUBLIC. HOW DO WE LOOK AT THAT AND PUT THAT IN OUR CAPITAL PLANS? HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT?

>> DO YOU PART OF IT IS, DOES IT FIT INTO THE CAPITAL PLAN REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE? IF YOU ARE JUST FIXING THE BOARDS OUT THERE OR REPLACING LIKE FOR LIKE, IT IS NOT CAPACITY IMPROVING. TALKING ABOUT THE BIKE ROAD ON 17? THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES WITH THAT. WE ARE THE MAIN NECESSITY BUT

WE CAN'T. >> WE YOU MOVED FAST, WE THOUGHT YOU WERE ON THE BASKETBALL COURT THERE.

[LAUGHTER]. >> ARE PARKS MAINTENANCE CREW GOES OUT AND LOOKS GOOD WE DID AN ASSESSMENT MAYBE A YEAR AGO AND LOOKING AT 1.4 MILLION TO REPLACE THE THREE BRIDGE SECTIONS. IF IS NOT EXPANDING CAPACITY AS A MAINTENANCE ITEM, THERE BRING IT INTO A GENERAL FUND.

JEFF MATTHEWS ON BOARD WITH FACILITIES TAKING A LOOK AT IT AND YOU WILL GET A TRUE QUOTE IN OUR BUDGET.

WE MAY HAVE TO BREAK IT UP BECAUSE AT ONE POINT THE $4 MILLION INITIAL PRICE TAG PUT A HOLD ON A FEW THINGS.

>> WE HAVE AMENITIES IN DISTRICT 3.

YOU DON'T LOOK AFTER THOSE, RIGHT?> NO SIR, THOSE ARE

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NOT UNDER PARKS AND REC. >> COMMISSIONER RENNINGER, WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY WITH THIS IT WILL HAVE TO COVER THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET.

WHICH BUDGET WILL COME FROM WE WILL TALK INTERNALLY AND BRING

THAT BACK. >> JUST SOMETHING WE OUGHT TO

LOOK AT SOONER OR LATER. >> WHEN I WANT TO STRESS ON THAT IS OBVIOUSLY THE TRAIL ALONG MOODY IS VERY OLD.

I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE PERSONALLY AND I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH TO ENCOURAGE THE USE THE CLAY CONNECTED APP, TAKE A PICTURE OF EXPERT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT DANGEROUS OUT THERE THAT IMPEDE SOMEBODY TO WRITE ON THEIR WALKWAY, WE WILL GO OUT AND FIX IT AND TAKE CARE OF IT.

IF IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED THE ENTIRE LENGTH OR IS JUST REPAIRED WE WILL COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND PROPOSE A BUDGET.

>> THERE ARE SIDEWALKS, THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE FOR THE SIDEWALK PORTIONS .THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS TO TAKE CARE OF AND WE WERE TRYING TO TRIAGE THIS AND GET TO THESE AREAS . IF THOSE POTHOLES FIXED ON THE SIDEWALK OR PATH AREAS. IF THERE IS MORE FROM THE BOARD, WE ARE ALL YEARS AND WILL TAKE A LOOK AND COME UP

WITH A PLAN. >> THE COUNTY MANAGER AT HAND ALLOWS HER TO ASK SO WE ARE GOOD.

>> CHAIR: ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE ISSUES WITH THE ROAD

RIGHT NOW? >> NOW WE ARE IN PUBLIC SAFETY AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE. A FEW THINGS TO NOTE, INCREASE COSTOF VEHICLES IS WHY THERE'S A CHANGE TO PUBLIC SAFETY .

THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WILL RIGHT SIZE THE NUMBER SLIGHTEST BIT BEFORE THIS IS AND SHE THE NUMBER CHANGE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BASED ON STAFF COMING IN AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE ACCURATE COST FOR SHERIFF'S OFFICE VEHICLES ONCE THEY ARE OUTFITTED. THOSE NUMBERS WILL ADJUST AS WE GO FORWARD. WE DID ADD THE ADDITION OF FIR STATION NUMBER ONE AT BRANDON FEEL TO THE BUDGET .

WE HAVE THE TWO TOWERS FOR THE RADIO SYSTEM THATNEED TO BE REPLACED . WE MOVE THEM IN AND TO DO THAT WE ENDED UP MOVING THE 9-1-1 CONSOLIDATED CENTER OUT A COUPLE OF YEARS. THAT COINCIDES WITH THE PLAN TO DO THE REGIONAL COMPLEX SPOKEN ON EARLIER FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THAT'S AN OUTLINE AND AS YOU CAN SEE OTHER STUFF IS MOVING AROUND.

>> CHIEF, CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT WHY THOSE TWO TOWER

APPRAISERS - -? >> PICKED UP YOU WERE TO ASK

ABOUT A FIRE STATION. >> I THINK I'M CLEAR ON THE FIRE STATIONS, BUT IS IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT THOSE TOWERS.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, CLAY COUNTY DIRECTOR OF IT.

THE TOWERS WE HAVE THEY ARE AT STRUCTURAL CAPACITY RIGHT NOW AT KEYSTONE AND SLEEPY HOLLOW. THERE WERE TOWER IMPROVEMENTS AND APPRAISE IN 2015 AS A PART OF THE PREPARATION OF THE NEW SYSTEM WAS CAME AROUND IN 2016. THAT IS AS FAR AS THOSE TOWERS CAN STRUCTURALLY GO AT THIS STAGE.

OVER THE LIFE OF THE TOWER, THE AND STRUCTURE WILL BE HERE FOR A WHILE. WE ARE HEAVILY INVESTED IN A RADIO SYSTEM, WE HAVE NEW SITES, GENERATORS AND EQUIPMENT SO WE ARE HEAVILY INVESTED IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

THOSE TOWERS ARE A RISK AND I WAS A PARTICULARLY IN KEYSTONE.

RIGHT NOW, THAT TOWER IS OUT THERE AWAY FROM THE REST OF THE SYSTEM MEANING AND OTHER PLACES IN THE COUNTY WE HAVE SOME OVERLAPPING RADIO COVERAGE OUT IN KEYSTONE WHERE WE DO NOT HAVE THE OPTION. LAST YEAR WE ALL MEMBER HURRICANE EM. ON THE TUESDAY MORNING OF THAT WEEK , THE PROJECTION FOR EM WAS COMING RIGHT UP MAIN STREET IN KEYSTONE. WE GOT LUCKY THE STORM TURNED OUT TO THE EAST AND WE DODGED IT, THAT IS A HUGE RISK THAT WE

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THOSE ARE THE REASONS OF THAT IMMEDIACY FOR THE

INFRASTRUCTURE. >> SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THE TOWER IN THE SOUTH PART OF THE COUNTY, WE WOULD HAVE ZERO RADIO COVERAGE FOR AN EMERGENCY?

>> NOT EXACTLY, IT GETS COMPLICATED.

WE DEFINITELY HAVE FALLBACK PLANS.

IT WOULD BE REDUCED AND THERE WOULD BE SOME COORDINATION SIMILARLY TO INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEMS. WE CAN GET THERE, IT WILL NOT BE PRETTY AND COULD LAST A WHILE AND WE WANT TO AVOID THAT.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE SEE A PROBLEM THAT COULD HAPPEN AND WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MITIGATE THE SITUATION BEFORE THE PROBLEM OCCURS. WE DON'T WANT TO PUT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND THAT SPOT OR THE PUBLIC IN THAT SPOT.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A RED FLAG FOR US, WE WANT TO PAY

ATTENTION TO IT. ANY MORE QUESTIONS?>>

STRUCTURAL NEW TOWER IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE?>> YES, WE NEED TO REPLACE THE EXISTING TOWER WITH THE NEW TOWER WITH MORE CAPACITY. ) HAVE BEEN IN SERVICE FOR A LITTLE OVER 20 YEARS. THEY HAVE TAKEN A LITTLE BIT OF WIND PUNISHMENT. WE HAD TO MAKE STRUCTURAL UPGRADES OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT THERE IS NO MORE CAPACITY FOR ADDING SERVICES. IF WE NEED TO ADD ANTENNAS OR BRING ON CALL LOCATORS FROM OUR PARTNERS, WE'VE BEEN HAVING SOME CHATS ABOUT SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS.

DO YOU HAVE A TOWER WE CAN COME ON AND PRINT SERVICES? WE ARE NOT AND A SPOT TO DO THAT WITH THE STRUCTURAL

LIMITATIONS. >> OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY QUESTIONS? CHIEF OF MOATS AND LEROY ARE READY AND CHOMPING AT THE BIT TO TALK TO US ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS.

>> AT A RISK OF THEM I HAVE TRIED TO EXPLAIN THIS TO A COUPLE THE COMMISSIONERS, BUT WE HAVE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE GOT LAID OUT WITH - - AS CONSERVATIVE OF A PLAN AS WE CAN POSSIBLY DO. GOING BACK A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WE SET A PATH TO WRITE THE DEFICIT OF OUR EMPLOYEES.

WE HAVE BEEN HIRING EMPLOYEES TO GET US UP TO WHERE WE SHOULD BE AT WITH THAT DEFICIT. WITH THAT BECOME SEEDS IN PLACES AND IN TRUCKS TO INCREASE OUR CAPACITY WITH THOSE FIRETRUCKS AND RESCUE UNITS TO RESPOND TO CALLS.

THAT IN AND OF ITSELF EQUATES TO FIRE STATIONS.

WE HAVE SEVERAL FIRE STATIONS THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT EXACTLY IN THE SPOT TO BEST SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT RESILIENT TO STORMS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WE TYPICALLY HAVE TO MOVE THE FIREFIGHTERS OUT OF THERE. YOU WILL NOTICE STATION ONE MOVED UP AND PART OF THE CONVERSATION EARLIER, ONE THING THAT WE WORKED ON VERY HARD AND WE TALKED ABOUT PULLING THE FIRE STATION WAS DURING THE DESIGN AND MEMORY SPEND THE MONEY. I CAN SIT HERE AND TELL YOU IN A PERFECT WORLD MANY OF THE STATIONS WE HAVE AND MANY OF THE OUT YEARS THE BUDGET TRULY SHOULD BE GOING ON NOW.

WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS NOT ONLY LOSING IT IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY, THESE ARE NOT JUST NORMAL BUILDINGS LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING, THEY REQUIRE SEVERAL FACETS THAT TAKE A LONGER TIME TO GET THE GENERATORS IN ALL TYPES OF THINGS .

DOING THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR EQUIPMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE PUSHED THE LADDER TRUCK OUT SEVERAL YEARS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE FACILITY TO PUT IT IN. AS THE PERSONAL COME ON, WE NEED TO PUT THE FIRETRUCKS AND HAVE THE FACILITIES TO PUT THEM IN. WE HAVE BEEN MEETING QUITE CONSISTENTLY WITH DRC AND THE NUMBER OF MULTISTORY BUILDINGS, WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE STATION ONE GOING TO THAT AREA HAS FORCED US INTO GETTING TRUCKS ON FASTER AND OF COURSE OUR VOLUME INCREASES THAT WE ARE SEEING HAS IS GETTING THOSE TRUCKS ON FASTER. I WILL TELL YOU THAT WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS TRULY AS CONSERVATIVE AS I CAN TELL YOU,

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WE HAVE STARTED TO PAY FOR MANY OF THOSE TRUCKS UP FRONT.

WE GET THAT IS PRICED THEN AND TYPICALLY GET A REDUCTION IN COSTS OF ABOUT $19-$20,000 PER TRUCK THAT WE DO THAT WITH.

WE SAVE SOME MONEY ON THAT ON THE FRONT END.

I STAND READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> CHAIR: COMMISSIONER BURKE? >> COMMISSIONER: YES, IF I LOOKED AT 15, DOES THAT MEAN YOU AND I HAVE A NEW STATION

COMPLETE UNTIL 27 OR 28? >> 15 IS A COMPLEX ISSUE.

RIGHT NOW WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE LAND FOR THIS.WE ARE LOOKING AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT AREAS FOR THAT WHICH IS ALSO INVOLVED IN OTHER, TROY MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT.

I WILL TELL YOU LOOKING AT THAT COMBINED CENTER, ALL THAT IS WRAPPED INTO ONE PIECE. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE LAND AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW TO START DESIGN ON, THAT IS WHY YOU SEE

THAT MOVING OUT. >> WAS THE ISSUE? I KNOW WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT LAND IN A SPECIFIC AREA, PWHAT IS THE ISSUE? WE HAVE HOUSES COMING IN AND WE DON'T HAVE A FIRESTATION IN THAT AREA .

>> YES, MA'AM, STATION ONE WHICH WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A STRAIGHT SHOT DOWN FAMILY, THAT IS FOR STATION ONE WILL BECOME VERY IMPORTANT. ALSO WE HAVE LISTED HERE GREEN COVE NORTH. THAT STATION COMING ONLINE IN THE FUTURE WILL HELP THE LAKE AS VERY AREA BUT UNTIL WE GET A FINALIZATION ON WHERE THE PROPERTY WILL BE AT, IT'S NOT REALISTIC TO PUT THAT INTO YOUR BUDGET.

>> AGAIN, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE LAND THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT? I THOUGHT WE WERE COMING DOWN TO THAT NEW THE EXPRESSWAY OR SOMETHING.

THERE'S NOTHING ON GREEN COVE NORTH FOR ANY YEARS I CAN SEE?

>> WE ARE WORKING WITH AN INDIVIDUAL RIGHT NOW AND THE AREA OF HANLEY ROAD AND RUSSELL ROAD BUT WE ARE IN THE EARLY STAGES F DISCUSSION TO SEE IF THAT PLAYS OUT.

>> THE EXPRESSWAY AREA FELL THROUGH?

>> THE ONE ON STANDRIDGE? THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THEY ARE STILL IN TALKS WITH THAT THE LAST THAT I

HEARD. >> WE ARE TRYING TO, BUT THEY

ARE NOT BEING REASONABLE. >> THAT MIGHT WORK OUT FOR ITSELF BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE AN ON RAMP SO IF WE END UP OVER THE RUSSELL ROAD AREA AND HANLEY, WE ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE ON-RAMP. SOMETHING HAPPENED FOR A REASON

AND IT MAY BE BETTER THERE. >> THAT STATION IS NEAR AND DEAR TO HER HEART BECAUSE IT IS ONE OF THE LEAST RESILIENT STATIONS THAT WE HAVE WITH OVERALL CONSTRUCTION AND HOW IT

IS MADE. >> YOU FEEL THAT THE AMOUNT OF HOMES COMING IN OUR AREA WILL BE ABLE TO BE SERVICED WITH NO

ISSUES OR PROBLEMS?>> WE LACK CAPACITY TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE TO ITS, BUT THE MAIN THING IS THE RELEASE IN THE

OF THE STATION. >> YOU ALSO HAVE STATION 22.

>> STATION 22, THAT IS CORRECT. WE HAVE GOT 100% DESIGN ON 24.

WE ARE IN THE 60% AREA ON STATION 20 AND GREEN COVE SPRINGS WHICH IS MOVING VERY WELL.

THE ORIGINAL DESIGN OF STATION 24 WAS A LITTLE MORE ELONGATED BECAUSE WE GOT OUR FOOTPRINT FOR GOING FORWARD EVERYTHING ELSE EXPANDS OR CONTRACTS. SECTION 22 IS LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE SIZE PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE.

NOT SURE ON THAT, WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THAT.

WE ALSO LOOK AT THE FACILITIES SO WHEN IT COMES TO TRY TO BUILD THESE THINGS, WE WILL HAVE THAT ON BOARD TO ROLL

THROUGH BUILDING THE BUILDINGS ONCE WE HAVE THAT ON BOARD.>>

OTHER QUESTIONS TOO. >> I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT

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BECAUSE OF WHAT IS STRATEGICALLY PLACED, WE WILL BE ABLE TO SERVICE THE LAKE AS VERY AREA WHICH IS WHAT I'VE SPOKEN TO THE CHIEF ABOUT. SPECIFICALLY WE SHARE WITH ME THE LOCATION BECAUSE 26 IS IN MY DISTRICT AS WELL BUT BECAUSE OF WHERE THE EXPRESSWAY IS, IT WAS TOO CONVENIENCE TO HAVE ISSUES AND EMERGENCIES ARISE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE EXPRESSWAY HAVE BECOME ALL WAY DOWN DISCOVERY, HIT THE TURN AROUND AND HEAD ALLTHE WAY BACK . THAT POSITIONING AT THE END OF ALL JENNINGS IS PARAMOUNT. HE AND I WERE HAVING A CONVERSATION AFTER THIS FOURTH OF JULY AND THERE WERE THREE OR FOUR ISSUES THAT AROSE THAT WEEKEND IN THAT AREA THAT IS GOING TO BE SERVICED WITH THE PLACEMENT OF THE STATION.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS BEING MOVED UP IT IS NOT JUST MY DISTRICT THAT WILL BENEFIT, MY DISTRICT IS INTERESTING BECAUSE IT TOUCHES ALL FOUR OF THE OTHERS.

>> THAT AREA IN AND OF ITSELF IS A LONG WAYS AWAY FROM ALL OUR STATIONS RIGHT NOW. IT IS ALSO A VERY FAST-GROWING AREA. WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF ELDERLY FACILITIES IN THATAREA . WITH THOSE MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS AND THE INCREASE, WE HAVE THE SPRAWL OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AS HE GROWS OUT. THAT POPULATION INCREASE COMES UP SLOWLY BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THESE BUILDINGS, THAT PUBLISHING COULD SEE INCREASES VERY FAST SO OUR VOLUME

INCREASED. >> I WOULD ALSO IMAGINE THAT IT COULD BE, IT COULD HELP IN COMMISSIONER CELLA'S DISTRICT AS WELL IN THAT AREA WHERE WE HAVE THREE OR FOUR MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT COMPLEXES BEING PROPOSED UNDER THAT LOCAL.

>> WE ARE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM THE INTERSTATE BEING OPENED UP SO ANYTHING THAT IS RIGHT THERE THAT IS NEAR THAT CAN STRIKE ALL THE WAY UP TO GREEN COVE.

IT'S AN APPROPRIATE SPOT. WE CAN GET TO MIDDLEBURG IN THE NORTH END OF THE COUNTY. IT WILL BE OUT OF SERVICE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME TO GET THAT FIXED.

THAT IS OUR NORTHERN LATTER WE USE FOR THE ENTIRE NORTHERN AREA OF THE COUNTY. AGAIN, WE ARE VERY VULNERABLE WHEN IT COMES TO THE SUCCESS OF THAT SERVICE.

>> TWO WE HAVE ANOTHER LADDER TRUCK IN ADDITION TO THE LONG

WE JUST BOUGHT, THE USE ONE? >> THIS YEAR WE HAVE A NUMBER ALL THE WAY UP TO THE CHIEF CASEY DAYS WHICH IS A LONG TIME AGO, WE HAV BEEN USING THOSE ALL THOSE YEARS AND THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT SERVICE FOR US. BOTH OF THOSE TEAMS ARE REGIONAL RESPONSE TEAMS AND AS WE GO ON POPULATION, THAT IS A SERVICE WE USE MORE AND MORE. WE HAD A LARGE NATIONAL GAS LEAK IN GREENVILLE THE OTHER DAY SO WE ARE SCHEDULED TO MODERNIZE THOSE TRUCKS TO BIGGER TRUCKS WITH MORE CAPACITY. WE SWAPPED OUT THE HAZMAT TRUCK FOR NEXT YEAR AND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BUY IS FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM A DEMO LADDER. SOME OF THE FIRE MANUFACTURERS

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THEY GOING TO BUY THAT LADDER RIGHT THERE.

WE HAVE ONE ON ORDER WHICH CHIEF COULD BE COMING IN ON 24 OR 25. THAT ONE IS ALREADY BEEN ON ORDER, IT'S REPLACEMENT FOR THAT IS 26 AT THE TIME.

>> FOR OUR AREAS THE COUNTY THAT DO NOT HAVE HYDRANTS SERVICES BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE WATER THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE THREE THINKERS THAT SERVE THE ENTIRE COUNTY, CORRECT?

>> THAT IS CORRECT, WE HAVE THREE THOSE ARE THE ENTIRE COUNTY. WE HAVE TANKERS THAT VOLUNTEERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE WILL TAKE AN AS WE SIT RIGHT NOW, AS YOU HAVE THE INCREASED PERSONNEL, WE MAY SHIFT PERSONNEL OVER TO A TANKER DURING THE TRUCK TO US FOR THAT SPECIFIC THING. PHASE 2, ISO IS A BIG THING AND I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION WITH THE MILLIONS AND UTILIZE THAT AS A TRAINING GROUND THAT HELPS US IN OUR ISO RATING TO BRING EVERYONE'S FIRE INSURANCE DOWN.

THAT WILL BE ANOTHER PHASE TO MOVE INTO MAXIMIZE OUR SOURCES WE USE NOT WITH THE THE DISTRICT IN THE FUTURE.

>> OTHER EQUIPMENT QUESTIONS? >> THE UTILIZE INTO THE NORMAL RESOURCES AND ASKED THE CITY OF JACKSON FOR THAT MATTER SERVIC

. >> WHAT IS THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING THAT REQUIRES A LADDER?

FOR STORIES? >> THREE STORIES WOULD REQUIRE A LADDER. WE ARE BUYING 75 FOOT, TYPICALLY TAKES A 10 FOOTLADDER FOR THOSE .

IF THE DIFFERENCE JUST GETTING TO THE BUILDING TO RESCUE PEOPLE REFILL GETTING ON TOP TO VENTILATE THE ROOF.

THE NICE PART ON A LOT OF THESE MULTISTORY BUILDINGS COMING IN, THEY DO REQUIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS IN THEM.

AS WE GET THESE LIGHTNING STORMS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE SEE AS WE SEE IN ATTIC FIRE WHICH IS SOMETHING NEED TO GET TO THE ROOF AND VENTILATE TO

STOP THAT. >> WHAT STORY BUILDING WOULD REQUIRE US TO GETTHE ONE THAT IS THE TWO DRIVERS ON BOTH ENDS

? >> WE WILL PROBABLY NOT GO WITH THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE. WE WILL - - IT HAS WATER CAPACITY AND IS ABLE TO FIGHT A FIRE TRUCK AND ENGINE CAN DO.

THEY CAN ALSO DO WITH A LADDER CAN DO.

WE'LL HAVE THE MANPOWER TO DO LADDER SERVICES AND ENGINE TO DO ENGINE SERVICES. HOURS YOU BOTH.

OTHER ENGINES THE CALL HEAVY ENGINES.

WE HAVE VENTILATION EQUIPMENT ALL OF OUR TRUCKS.

WHEN HUNG THE LUXURY TO HAVE A SPECIAL THING FOR EACH THING.

WE KNOW HOW THAT - - UTILIZE THOSE TRUCKS TO BRING THEM.

>> OTHER FIRE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

I WOULD JUST REMIND EVERYONE THAT WE ALREADY HEARD FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE EARLIER, BUT THEY HAD THEIR PRIORITY LIST AS

WELL WORKING CLOSELY WITH ONB. >> AS I SAID, WE WILL ADJUST THE EQUIPMENT FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AS WE GET THOSE FINAL NUMBERS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON

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>> DON'T THINK SO. >> PARKS AND RECKONED FAIRGROUNDS. SO CAN WE REALIGN THE FAIRGROUND IMPROVEMENTS. WE MAKE SURETHAT LIVESTOCK PEOPLE IN WAS RIGHT THERE . REMOVE THE MOCCASIN TOWER TO OUTER YEARS. WE DID RECEIVE NEWS RECENTLY.

IT WILL PAY FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT BUT IT ALWAYS GIVES US A START. THEN, WE MOVE THAT WATER MODEM TO OUTER YEARS TO BALANCE THE CIP.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING PARKS AND

REC RELATED? >> NOTING THAT COMMISSIONER COMPERE JUST WANT A PLACEHOLDER FOR VETERANS PARK ADDED ON I

GUESS. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> WHAT OTHER PROJECTS FOR MY AREA?

>> ONE, TWO, SEVEN, FOUR AND FIVE OF THE BOTTOM ARE PLACEHOLDERS. THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT TO MY FAILED TWO. WE HAVE TO HAVE AN IMPACT MONEY MATCH BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST INCREASING CAPACITY, WE ARE TO CATCH UP WITH A DEFICIT OF PARKS AS A PART OF THAT IMPACT THE STUDY. THIS IS THE DOLLAR FIGURE IN EACH OF THE YEAR STARTING IN YOUR 2425 THAT GETS US THAT MONEY TO PARTNER WITH HER IMPACT BE DOLLARS.

SO WE ARE WHOLE AND MEET THE PLAN AS REQUIRED BY STATUTE.

>> I THOUGHT LAST YEAR I HAD A BOAT RAMPPLACEHOLDER .

WITHOUT BE IN THAT?>> IT COULD BE INSIDE OF THIS OR THE OTHER FUND THAT IS NOW PART OF CIP IS THE BORDER IMPROVEMENT FUNDS WHICH IS PART OF THE OPERATING BUDGET.

>> AS FAR AS GRANTS, THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN GO FOR, RIGHT?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> THAT'S ANOTHER PLACE WE CAN PAY FOR BOAT RAMPS OUTER BORDER IMPROVEMENT OR AS WE GET TO THE PROJECTS. AS WE GET INTO NEXT YEAR AND GET THE PARK PLAN BACK, WE WILL START LINE I ADDING THESE

FIGURES OUT. >> PERFECT SEGUE.

ABOUT A MONTH AND AND A HALF AGO WE HAD A MEETING WITH A GA I CONSULTANTS DOING OUR MASTER PLAN.

FROM THERE, WE HAD HER OWN TENURE CIP PROJECT OVER WE NEED TO GO GROW BOAT RAMPS AND CONSERVE.

NEXT YEAR WE WILL HAVE A 10 YEAR CIP PROJECT WE REALLY TO ADD PARTS. THE ONLY THING WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN CIP IS THE MAIN STREET PROGRAM IMPROVEMENTS.

THAT IS ONLY ONE CURRENTLY IDENTIFIED AS THEPROJECT .

>> QUESTIONS ON PARKS AND REC? AN FAIRGROUNDS?

>> IN TERMS OF THE VARIOUS DISTRICT PROJECT FOR THE IMPACT FEE, HOW DO WE COME UP WITH A NUMBER? ARE THOSE REAL NUMBERS OR ESTIMATED NUMBERS?

>> THEY ARE BOTH. WHAT WE DID WAS WE ANTICIPATED HOW MUCH IMPACT FEE DOLLARS WOULD COME IN.

35% IMPACT FEE, 65% OR VICE VERSA.

START PLUGGING THOSE NUMBERS INTO WE CAN BALANCE SOUND THE DOLLARS COMING WITH THE INVESTMENT.

LET'S TAKE 2 TO 4 FOR EXAMPLE, THE WAKE AS VERY DISTRICT.

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>> I KNOW YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THE FAIRGROUNDS.

WE HAVE TWO CLIENTS THAT ARE THERE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND THE BIN PUSHED OFF AS WE KEEP DOING THAT.

WE NEEDED TO MOVE THAT EVEN FURTHER.

MY POINT BEING WITH THE GRANTS WERE FOR X NUMBER OF DOLLARS AND WE HAVE LONG EXCEEDED THOSE DOLLARS IN TERMS OF THE INFLATION AND COST GOING UP. HOW WILL WE RECTIFY THAT? HE WILL HAVE TO HAVE OUR OWN CIP TO ADD TO THAT, CORRECT?

>> FAIRGROUND IMPROVEMENTS WHICH ARE ORIGINALLY SUPPOSED TO BE THE WATER LINE AND OTHER PROJECTS OUT THERE THAT ONE HALF MILLION DOLLARS, THE 2.4 MILLION YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW IS SET ASIDE FOR THE WATER LINE TO BE PUT IN.

THE WATER LINE OF THE FAIRGROUNDS WAS 3.1 MILLION.

THAT PROJECT ALONG WITH TAKE ANOTHER $700,000 TO COMPLETE IF

THAT WAS THE DESIRE. >> IS THEIR ABILITY, AND IF THERE IS NOT, ME BEING ME TO ASK OUR STATE DELEGATION THIS, FOR THESE GRANTS TAKE A MULTIYEAR AND YOU HAVE A GOOD PLAN BRINGING THAT UP, IS THERE THE ABILITY TO GO BACK AND HAVE THEM REEVALUATE, THE COST TO DO ANYTHING IS NOT A CLAY COUNTY PROBLEM, IT IS ACROSS THE BOARD.

MAKING A STICK TO THE RULES THAT WERE IN PLACE WHEN HE FIRST ACCEPTED THE GRANT BECAUSE WE SERVE THE PROJECT - - DOUBLE THE MONEY IN THIS CAS .

>> - - IT $20 MILLION THIS YEAR TO USE FOR GRANTS.

THAT IS A WILL MONDAY HAD ALLOCATED INSIDE OF THAT.

THEY CAN CHANGE YOUR NUMBER GIVE US ANY MORE MONEY, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ANOTHER GRANT CYCLE.

THE OTHER OPTION IS TO SAY, IS PROBABLY NOT POPULAR OPINION, I WANT TO THE PROJECT, WE WILL SHUT DOWN THE GRANT AND TAKE THE MONEYREQUIRED TO MATCH WITH THE GRANT AND USE IT FOR A DIFFERENT PROJECT .HILE THAT IS NOT IDEAL BECAUSE OF THE PROJECT YOU ARE COMMITTED TO, WHEN IT WAS A 50-50 MATCH AND NOW IT'S A THREE OR $4 MILLION PROJECT, THAT IS WHERE THE BOARD HAS TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE GRANT PROJECTS AND MAKE THE DIFFICULT DECISION OF ARE THESE PROJECTS THAT WE ARE SO COMMITTED TO? THE OTHER THING YOU GOT TO REMEMBER IS THE OTHER CONVERSATION THAT HAPPENED IS IF YOU DO THESE GRANTS, YOU WERE ON THE HOOK FOR MAINTAINING THIS PROJECT FOR FIVE, SEVEN, 10 YEARS.

YOU HOLD THAT VALUEFOR THE 7 TO 10 YEARS AND YOU ARE OBLIGATED TO PAY THAT MONEY BACK . HIS PARTITIONING TOBE GROWING EXPONENTIALLY IN THIS AREA . I THINK THAT ANSWERS YOUR

QUESTION COMMISSIONER. >> THE EXHIBIT HALL REMODEL, WE

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REMOVING DESIGN. >> WE ARE CURRENTLY FINISHING UP WITHTHE DESIGN . WE HAVE - - CONSTRUCTION MANAGER FOR THAT AND LOOKING TO DO A NET PROJECT ON THE TAIL END OF THE FAIR. THERE WAS ALSO STIPULATION - - SUPPORT THAT CAPACITY WITH THE DESIGN THAT WE HAVE.

THEY WANTED US TO WAIT UNTIL 2025.

STAFF IS GOING FORWARD AND TRYING TO GET THESE GRANTS AND PROJECTS DONE AS THEY COME TO US BUT THAT IS FOR THE FAIRGROUND PROJECTS ARE CURRENTLY TO ANSWER YOUR

QUESTION. >> THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT PROBABLY WON'T BE 3.1 MILLION BY THE TIME WE GET THERE IN 2025? THAT PUTS US FURTHER IN THE HOLE TO GET THE PROJECT ACCOMPLISHED.

>> POSSIBLY, YES, SIR. FUTURE TALKS AND DISCUSSIONS NEED TO OCCUR WITH WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA THAT THEY WILL ACCEPT AND WE CAN WORK TOGETHER POSSIBLY.

>> THE MASTER PLAN IMPROVEMENTS IN THE FAIRGROUNDS IMPROVEMENTS FOR NEXT YEAR, WE HAVE THINGS PLANNED TO DO THAT MONEY?

>> YES, THAT IS THE LIVESTOCK BARN.

LIKE JEAN SAID, THAT WILL BE GOING OUT TO BID IN THE FALL.

WE ARE LOOKING TO SHUT DOWN THAT BAR SECTION OF THE FAIRGROUNDS MAY THROUGH DECEMBER 24.

>> PEOPLE LOSE CAPACITY, RIGHT? >> NOT OF THE REST OF THE

FAIRGROUNDS. >> WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS W ARE NOT JUST REPLACING A BAR WITH THE BARN .

THIS IS A CONVERSATION THAT I HAD I THOUGHT WE CAME TO A DIFFERENT DECISION. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND I WAS TO LISTEN TO.

I WILL REPRESENT THE MY CONSTITUENTS IN THE AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY. WE CAN'T JUST REPLACE WHAT WE HAVE WITH WHAT WE HAVE . IT DOES NOT ADD CAPACITY FOR ANIMALS. NOW YOU ARE SAYING AT SOME POINT YOU'RE GOING TO DEMO IT? NO.

>> THE TWO BARS NEXT TO THE GP WHOLE MEDIUM ARENA, THAT IS WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS DESIGN ACT.

WE WILL LOOKING AT TAKING THOSE DOWN AND PUTTING IN A LITTLE BIT LARGER PAVILION IN THERE. THE COMBINATION OF THE LIVESTOCK, YOU DISCUSSIONS ABOUT BEDDING AND ALL OF THAT AND IT SEEMED LIKE SOME OF THE ASSOCIATION WAS ON BOARD WITH

WHAT WE WERE GOING FORWARD. >> NO CONCRETE.

COUNTRIES ONLY HORSE. I THINK MANY MORE CONVERSATION

. >> WE WILL GET TOGETHER ON IT.

>> IT HAS BEEN AT LEAST SIX MONTHS AS WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

>> THIS WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BUDGET IS COMPLETED IF THERE IS A PIVOT OF THAT AND THE DESIRE OF THE BOARD IS NOT TO DO THAT PROJECT BUT WE WANT TO IT.

IT BECOMES DIFFICULT BECAUSE THE FACILITY ITSELF NEEDS LOTS OF TLC. WE DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT WHAT THEY DO WITH THE FAIR AND OTHER MONTHS THEY HAVE THEIR WHEN IT COMES TO STALLS IN THE MATERIAL FOR THE FLOORING.

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BRIEF TOO. >> OTHER FAIRGROUNDS OR

PRODUCTION READ? >> OTHER PROJECTS, WE ADDED THE LAND ACQUISITION. THE ONLY MONEY TO BUY LAND POTENTIALLY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

WE ADDED THE FUNDING FOR THE SUBSTANCE ABUSE ABUSE RECOVERY CENTER WHICH IS THE APPROPRIATION WE GOT FROM THE STATES. EVERYTHING ELSE IS STAYING THE WAY IT WAS. ONE THING TO NOTE, IT WILL COME UP IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS WE TALK ABOUT THESE FEES, I AM SURE CHARLIE AND MILTON HAVE BRIEFED ON THIS, THERE IS A CAPITAL COMMITMENT OUT OF RESERVES BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE WE PAY FOR CAPITAL OUT THE SOLID WASTE FUND.

CURRENTLY THERE IS ABOUT $21 MILLION IN MONEY OUT OF THAT RESERVE FOR EACH OF THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THESE PROJECTS?

>> YES, HOW CONFIDENT ARE WE THAT THE SUBSTANCE ABUSE CENTER RENOVATION WILL COME IN UNDER AT BUDGET 3 MILLION?

>> I WANT TO ANSWER THAT AGAIN A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS.

YOU WILL BE GETTING A BRIEF NEXT TUESDAY AND WE HAVE ALL BRIEFED YOU EACH INDIVIDUALLY TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD ON THEFACILITY . IF WE CONFIRM THE LOCATION IS THE RIGHT LOCATION, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH JEAN ON DOING THOSE ESTIMATES. IT IS REMODELING IF WE USE THE FACILITY THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING.

I AM NOT SURE AND I DON'T KNOW GINA HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK INTO THAT AND HOW MUCH THAT WILL COST.

I THINK WE ARE CONFIDENT BETWEEN THIS AND THE SETTLEMENT MONEY THAT WE HAVE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO MODELING.

>> WE WERE TALKING HIGH-LEVEL, IF WE MOVED TO THE FACILITY THAT WE DISCUSSED WHICH WILL COME TO THE BOARD FOR THE SUBSTANCE ABUSE FACILITY, TO WE FEEL THAT 3 MILLION WILL BE ENOUGH TO DO - - WE HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.

>> - - SEE WHAT SPECIAL CASES INTIMATELY TO THE BUILDING SQUAREFOOTAGE ROOMS , WHATEVER IT MAY BE.RIGHT NOW IT IS CLOSE TO WHAT COULD BE DONE IN THEIR JUST FROM INITIAL DISCUSSIONS BUT WE SHOULD HAVE A MEETING OF THE KEY PERSONNEL

SOON WITH THE OTHER FACILITIES. >> WHILE WE ARE DISCUSSING IT, TO THAT BUILDING FLOOD DURING IRMA?

>> THE PARKING LOT DID. >> IF I MAY, MADAM CHAIR, ALSO THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE THERE, THERE WERE RUMORS THAT IT FLOODED AND I TALKED TO DIANE ABOUT THIS IT DID NOT FLOOD EITHER. NOW, THE PARKING LOT WAS FLOODED AND IT WAS A MESS AT THE LOWER-LEVEL TOO.

I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT ALSO TO THE BOARD.

>> THE REASON I ASK IS WHEN YOU RENOVATE, IF IT IS APPALLING PRONE AREA IN THE BUILDING, WE ARE LOOKING AT RESILIENCY.

YOU CAN GET SOME BIG DOLLAR ITEMS VERY QUICKLY.

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>> OTHER QUESTIONS ON THOSE THINGS?

OKAY. >> THE NEXT PART IS ABOUT ARPA, WE DID A LOT OF HOMEWORK TO SEE WHERE OUR ARPA PROJECTS ARE.

YOU WANT TO HAVE ALL AYE PROJECT COMPLETED BYDECEMBER 2024 , MEGAN'S TEAM CAN DO THE CLOSEOUT.

THE PROJECT HAVE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF ARPA WHICH ARE DEFINED IN THE FEDERAL REGULATIONS. HOWEVER, THERE IS A $10 MILLION THAT CAN BE USED FOR REVENUE REPLACEMENT THAT IS NOT TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS. IF YOU REMEMBER, THAT'S HOW WE MOVE MONEY FROM ARPA TO THE REGIONAL PARK.

WE MOVED IN THE GO BRANCH OUT OF ARPA, WE ARE CURRENTLY USING THE GRANT WITH THE DESIGN. THE ODDS ARE THAT IS I WILL

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DRAINAGE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL MUSCLE OUT OF YOUR SIX-YEAR ALLOCATION YOU ONLY HAVE $688,000 LEFT IN THEIR PRACTICE IDENTIFIED, WE STILL HAVE THOSE PULLED GETS.

I WILL GIVE MY SHOUT OUT HERE TO ENGINEERING AND EARL.

TO MOVE ALL THE RESURFACING THEY DID THIS YEAR AND TO REMOVE ALL OF THESE ARPA PROJECTS OVER THE LAST YEAR, ENGINEERING IN THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THESE PROJECTS A SUCCESS. I HAD TO SHUT THAT OUT, THAT IS $13 MILLION ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE DONE.

IF YOU TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE INCREASE THE COST OF THE COURTHOUSE CAMERA SYSTEM. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE FOUND TO MAKE THAT A GOOD TURNKEY SOLUTION TO THE COURTHOUSE. THE INTERCOM SYSTEM FOR PAGING INSIDE HAD SOME ISSUES SO WHILE THEY ARE THERE, WE WANTED TO FACTOR THAT IN. ALL THAT FOR THE , YOU HAVE 42.5 MILLION WITH ALLOCATION.

CURRENTLY OBLIGATED IN THE PLAN AT $39.9 MILLION.

YOU HAD INTEREST EARNINGS RIGHT AT $1 MILLION.

WE HAVE AT LEAST ABOUT $3.5 MILLION IN FUNDING THAT ISNOT OBLIGATED CURRENTLY . THE LINE BELOW THAT SHOWS OUT OF A $10 MILLION REVENUE REPLACEMENT, FIVE, MILLION OF THAT HAS BEEN USED UP. THEORETICALLY, YOU HAVE $3.5 MILLION OF ARPA MONEY THAT YOU CAN MOVE TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANTED. YOU CAN PUT IT TO ANY CAPITAL PROJECT. IT WOULD NOT HAVE TO MEET THE

ARPA GUIDELINES. >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ARPA WANT TO COME BACK AT A LATERTIME AND

GIVE US DIRECTION . >> I AM NOT READY TO COMMIT TO

THAT. >> WHEN DOES IT HAVE TO BE USED

BY?>> IT HAS TO BE COMPLETED BY DECEMBER 2024.

>> THE WHOLE 3.5? >> ALL 42.5, EVERYTHING.

>> COMMISSIONER CELLA? BEFORE I THINK TREY WILL JUMP BACK IN AND ANSWER. NOW WITH THE PROJECT.

>> WITH THEPROJECT IS BONDED ROAD PROJECT .

IF WE SENSE IS USED FOR THE FRONT HALF OF THE PROJECT AND THE PROJECT CONTINUES ON, I'LL GET TO SHOW INVOICES TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE PAYING THE BILLS OF $3.5 MILLION PLUS THE OTHER 39 MILLION OF ARPA HOPEFULLY BY OCTOBER 2024.

>> YOU SAID THE PROJECT HAD TO BE COMPLETED, THAT'S NOT RIGHT?

>> IT HAS TO BE COMPLETE FROM THE ARPA DOLLAR STANDPOINT.

LET'S SAY HYPOTHETICALLY, NOT SAYING THIS IS THE DIRECTION YOU HAVE TO GOING, BUT IF YOU WANT TO BUILD A FIRE STATION AND SAY I WILL PAY FOR THE DESIGN OF THIS BECAUSE THIS IS GENERAL REVENUE REPLACEMENT, WE WILL BE FINE.

TO END THE GOOD NEWS, THERE ARE $3.5 MILLION NOT FACTORED INTO OUR CIP RIGHT NOW THE BOARD TO USE FOREVER THE DESIRES OF THE

BOARD ARE. >> I WOULD IMAGINE YOU CAN COME BACK TO US INDIVIDUALLY. THERE ARE PROJECTS OUT THERE, JUST THROWING IT OUT, MAYBE I'M SPEAKING TOO SOON AND THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER: I HAD A QUESTION, CAN YOU MAKE SENSE FOR ME THIS LAST LINE THAT SAYS WE HAVE ALLOCATED THIS 5.1 OF THE 10 MILLION, BUT THERE IS NOT ADDING.

>> BE A $43.5 MILLION OF OUR PART ARPA MONEY.

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LATER DENNIS WAS SPEAKING USE $10 MILLION OF THAT AS LONG AS THERE IS GENERAL GOVERNMENT SERVICES.

LET'S SAY YOU WANTED PAVED ROADS, WE COULD HAVE USED$10 MILLION . OF THE $10 MILLION OF ARPA MONEY CAN BE USED FOR ANY GOVERNMENT SERVICES, THAT IS YOUR. OUT OF ALL 43.5 OF TOTAL REVENUE, I HAVE TO USE 33.5 MILLION OF THAT FOR ARPA ELIGIBLE EXPENSES. TIME AND CAN BE USED FOR WHATEVER. OF THAT, WE HAVE USED 5.1 MILLION. YOU CAN THEORETICALLY GO BACK INTO ARPA AND PULL OUT ANOTHER $1.2 MILLION FOR THE PROJECTS

BUT OF ARPA ELIGIBLE. >> YOU TO SHARE THAT WITH ME AND EVERYTHING. IF YOU SUBTRACT 5.1 FROM 10,

YOU HAVE 4.9. >> THE 1.2 WE HAVE ALREADY

ALLOCATED TO OTHER PROJECTS. >> IN THE USAGE OF THE MONEY

VIA MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. >> YOU CAN - - WITHOUT

FOLLOWING THE ARPA GUIDELINES. >> FOR INSTANCE, IF 1.2 MILLION OF THE AMOUNT THAT WE GAVE TO NONPROFITS DOES NOT GET USED, WE CAN PULL IT AND USE IT ON THE ROAD PROJECT THAT NORMALLY WOULD NOT BE ARPA ELIGIBLE BUT WE CAN USE IT BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS EXTRA? IF WE HAVE ALREADY SPENT 10 MILLION ON A NON-ÁUNTRAN10Á ELIGIBLE PROJECT, THAT ONE SHOULD ONLY BE FOR ARPA ELIGIBLE.

ARPA HAS BEEN A HEADACHE I GETTING CONTRACTORS THAT ARE

ARPA ELIGIBLE. >> KAREN AND HER TEAM CAN SPEAK TO THAT. THERE IS A VERY FINITE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL THE REGISTRATION PROCESS TO BE A FEDERAL REGISTERED AND ALL THAT STUFF.

IT IS NARROW OUR POOL OF ELIGIBLE CONTRACTORS.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

HE SAID VENDORS ARE TOUGH, THE CHAIRMAN BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE WE DID GIVE ARPA GRANTS TO ALREADY SPENT THAT MONEY AND THEY WILL BE IN THE SAME SHAPE.

WE MAY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSET SOME OF THATBACK .

THE QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT WE THINK WE CAN SPEND IT AND HAVE A PROJECT DONE BY THE END OF 24.

>> NOT SAYING WHICH WAY TO GO, BUT THE LOW HANGING FRUIT, WE ALL KNOW THERE STORM WATER AND THAT COULD BE A SUCCESSFUL PAPER PROJECTS IF THAT IS THE WORST DESIRE.

[5.  Questions]

>> OTHER ARPA QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER BURKE?

>> COMMISSIONER: CAN IT BE LAND AND DESIGN ORDERS THE BUILDING

HAVE TO BE COMPLETE? >> IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE COMPLETING. IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT?

>> OTHER ARPA QUESTIONS OR OTHER CIP QUESTIONS? BEFORE WE GET COMMISSIONER COMMENTS, ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO US? WE DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS, WE WOULD NEED TO FILL OUT A CARD BUT IF YOU ELECTED, AND ANYTHING YOU HAVE HEARD TODAY.

[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]

COMMISSIONER CELLA?> COMMISSIONER: THANK YOU CHAIR.

FIRST OF ALL, THANKS TO STAFF. I KNOW TROY HAS WORKED HARD ON

[02:10:01]

I HOPE THE PUBLIC WAS ABLE TO GARNER SOME INFORMATION AS TO HOW ALL THIS IS PUT TOGETHER, THE MAKING OF THE SAUSAGE.

BUT ALSO TO THE EXTENT OF THE DOLLARS THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, JUST AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY BEING USED.

IT'S A 5 POUNDS OF MONEY, NEED 20 POUNDS OF MONEY TO FINISH THE JOB THE WAY WE WOULD ALL LIKE IT TO BE.

WE ARE WORKING HARD. WE HAD $52 MILLION SPENT OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AND COULD BE MORE BASED ON THE FACT THAT THOSE COULD GO UP, HOPEFULLY THEY WILL GO DOWN WITH A COUPLE MORE GRANTS FROM OUR STATE DELEGATION.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TRUCKS COSTING NEARLY $2 MILLION, WE ARE UNDER GREAT PRESSURE BY THE LIVE LOCAL ACT WAS THE STATE LEGISLATOR PASSED WHICH ALLOWS DEVELOPERS TO TAKE INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL PARCELS AND TURN THEM INTO MULTIFAMILY UNITS WHICH CAUSES FOUR-STORY BUILDINGS TO BE BILLS.

WE NEED MORE LETTER TRUCKS. THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE ARE FACING. IT'S A LIMITED PART FROM AN UNLIMITED POT OF MONEY. THIS 25 MILLION PER YEAR AFTER YOU PAY YOUR BONDS IN TERMS OF SALES TAX THAT WE COLLECT FROM THE STATE WHICH IS USED TO FUND OUR CIP WITH GRANTS AND OTHER APPROPRIATIONS. IT IS MULTIFACETED IN TERMS OF WHERE THE MONEY COMES IN FROM AN MULTIFACETED TO WHERE IT GOES OUT. WE TRY TO DISPERSE THOSE MONEY AND SPEND THEM THE WAY THAT WE CAN BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS FOR I THINK THE STATE TOOK IN QUITE A BIT MORE FROM SALES TAX, SO HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE GETTING A LETTER FROM THE STATE THAT SAYS WE HAVE MORE TO WORK WITH.

BUT THOSE OF THE REALITIES, IT'S NEVER EASY TO MAKE THAT DECISION. WE HAVE IN OUR RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS, THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GET DONE AND THINGS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE GET DONE. CONSEQUENTLY, IT WAS A GOOD SESSION. WE SAW SOME GOOD QUESTIONS FOR QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED BUT IT MOVES ALONG DOWN THE ROAD.

>> CHAIR: COMMISSIONER COMPERE? >> COMMISSIONER: SHORT AND SWEET, THANKS SO MUCH FOR GIVING US GUIDANCE ON THIS.

IT'S ALWAYS AN INTRICATE THING IN NEGOTIATING THE BUDGET.

IT IS A TIGHT ROPE. WE HAVE SO MANY CONVERSATIONS COMING AND I AM EXCITED ABOUT IT.

IT IS GOING TO BE GREAT SPIRIT MY NEW BEST FRIEND AT WORK.

[LAUGHTER]. I'M SO GRATEFUL COUNTY MANAGER, TROY, I KNOW THIS IS A LOT. IT IS SO MUCH AND IT IS VERY INTRICATE AND I APPRECIATE THE PATIENCE YOU WILL HAVE WITH ME AS I WAVED THROUGH ALL OF THIS. THANK YOU AND I WILL SEE YOU

NEXT WEEK. >> COMMISSIONER:

>> CHAIR: COMMISSIONER RENNINGER?

>> COMMISSIONER: WE WANT TO COMPLEMENT THE COUNTY MANAGER FOR BEING A LEADER OF THE BAND HERE BUT IT'S AN ALL HANDS EFFORT WHENYOU LOOK AT PUBLIC WORKS AND PUBLIC SAFETY .

BUILDINGS, CONCRETE FLOORS FOR HORSES.

IT IS HUGE. WE HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES BUT WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS. EVEN THOUGH WE DISCUSSED A LOT HERE TODAY, THERE ARE STILL OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS WHICH NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

I WANT TO COMPLEMENT STAFF IN PARTICULAR, THE WHOLE STAFF.

IT'S NOT JUST REGGIE. REGGIE PUT THE NUMBERS IN THE RIGHT PLACE, BUT TO GET THE RIGHT NUMBERS IS A VERY DIFFICULT PURCHASING AND PROJECT MATTER, ANYWAY I WENT TO COMPLEMENT EVERYBODY. THANK YOU ALL.

>> CHAIR: COMMISSIONER BURKE? >> COMMISSIONER: I WILL LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE. YOU ALL MIGHT GET TIRED ABOUT HEARING ABOUT DISTRICT 5 WITH THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH GOING ON THER , BUT TO MY CONSTITUENTS IN THE PUBLIC, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ALL ARE IN YOUR CARE AND WE ARE TRYING TO FIND THAT PUZZLE SOLUTION.

JUST LIKE COMMISSIONER COMPERE WAS TALKING ABOUT.

HANG IN THERE WITH US AND THANK YOU ALL FOR STAFF FOR TRYING TO

GET IT WORKED OUT. >> CHAIR: I WOULD ECHO THE

[02:15:03]

I HAVE SEEN A SHIFT IN THAT SINCE I CAME ON AS A COMMISSIONER 2.5 YEARS AGO. THIS TO BE SOME THINGS OUT OF BOUNDS AT THE TIME, A ROAD RESURFACING PROJECTS.

WE AFFIRM THE PUBLIC THAT WE ARE ALL FOCUSING MY DISTRICT AND NOT SPREADING ACROSS DISTRICTS , SO I THINK WE HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB. FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE JOB OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION IS PUBLIC SAFETY.

THAT CROSSES ALL,NOT JUST OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND FIRE RESCUE BUT IT ALSO MEANS PROVIDING GOOD ROADS FOR THEM TO USE . ONE OF THE PLACES THAT STATION WILL HELP RESPOND OUT OF MIDDLEBURG RIGHT NOW HAS TO GO DOWN IN UNPAVED ROAD TO RESPOND TO THINGS AND COMMISSIONER COMPERE'S DISTRICT BECAUSE THAT'S THE CLOSEST ROUTE TO GET THERE. THEY TEAR UP EQUIPMENT THAT PROVIDES MORE MAINTENANCE. ALL THE DEPARTMENTS WORKING TOGETHER TO PUT PUBLIC SAFETY AT THE FOREFRONT IS REALLY WHAT WE WANT TO DO. WE HAVE TRIED TO DO A LOT FOR STAFF ON SALARIES WHICH IS PART OF THE GENERAL BUDGET, NOT PART OF CIP. STILL MORE WORK TO DO IN BOTH ARENAS. THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK SORRY WE WENT ABOUT 18 MINUTES OVER, GOOD WORKSHOP AND

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.