[INVOCATION]
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>> OUR PLEDGE THIS AFTERNOON IS BROUGHT TO US BY PETTY OFFICER SECOND CLASS DEAN HANE WHO SERVED SIX YEARS IN THE UNITED STATES NAVY. HE WAS STATIONED ABOARD THE U.S.S. TEXAS AS AN AIR SEARCH RADAR TECHNICIAN IN THE PERSIAN GULF DURING OPERATION DESERT STORM.
HE RECEIVED SEVERAL AWARDS AND MEDALS IN HIS CAREER INCLUDING SHARPSHOOTER AND PISTOL, SOUTHWEST ASIA MEDAL, AND GOOD CONDUCT MEDAL.
IF YOU DON'T MIND I WOULD LIKE TO TABLING A MOMENT TO GIVE GRACE AND GRATITUDE TO THE FREEDOMS WE HAVE IN OUR COUNTRY TODAY. WE KNOW FREEDOM IS NOT FREE AND THAT THE PRICE MUST BE PAID. LAST MONTH ON MEMORIAL DAY, WE HONORED THE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR ARMED SERVICES WHO PAID FOR THAT FREEDOM WITH THEIR LIVES. A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WE HO HONORED OUR FLAG WHICH IS A SYMBOL OF FREEDOM ACROSS THE GLOBE AND OUR FLAG HAS PAID THE PRICE.
NEXT WEEK, OUR COUNTRY WILL CELEBRATE ANOTHER YEAR OF INDEPENDENCE AND FREEDOM. WE KNOW THAT OUR COUNTRY CONTINUES TO PAY THE PRICE OF FREEDOM.
IF YOU SERVE IN THE MILITARY, SERVE OUR PUBLIC, OR EXERCISE YOUR RIGHT TO VOTE, THE PRICE OF FREEDOM MUST BE PAID.
[CALL TO ORDER]
>> WELCOME TO OUR BOARD MEETING FOR JUNE 27, 2023.
[PET ADOPTIONS]
ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT. WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH PETADOPTIONS. >> OKAY. OUR FIRST DOG TODAY IS JULES. SPAYED FEMALE, SHEPARD MIX, 50 POUNDS. SHE ALWAYS HAS SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT AND IS LOYAL TO HER PEOPLE.
DON'T LET THIS SWEET GIRL'S AGE FOOL YOU, SHE'S A PUPPY WITH TOYS. HE LOVES TO CARRY AROUND HER STUFFIE, AND SHE IS LOOKING FOR HER FOREVER HOME.
SHE'S UP TO DATE IN HER VACCINES, MICROCHIPPED, AND
HEART WORK NEGATIVE. >>> NEXT WE HAVE BEE BEE.
HE IS STILL WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE A CHANCE ON HER.
SHE CAME TO US IN ROUGH SHAPE AND KEEPLY MISUNDERSTOOD.
BEE BEE WOULD BE A GREAT COMPANION FOR SOMEONE THAT WANTS DOG TO GO ON WALKS, WATCH TV, AND SHARE SNACKS.
SHE DOESN'T WANT YOUNG CHILDREN OR CATS.
SHE WOULD PREFER TO BE YOUR ONE AND ONLY.
>> OUR FIRST CAT IS WONKA. NEUTERED MALE.
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8 WEEKS OLD. LOOK AT THOSE BLUE EYES.HE IS 100% KINDT AND LOVES HIS BROTHER WILLIE.
THEY WOULD LOVE A HOME TOGETHER WHERE THEY CAN RUN AND PLAY.
WONKA WILL REQUIRE BOOSTERS AND IS MICROCHIPS.
>>> THIS IS WILLIE. HIS BROTHER.
KITTEN SEASON HAS OFFICIALLY STARTED.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN OUR KITTEN CREW, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR FOSTERS. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN HELPING OUR FURRY FRIENDS BUT CAN'T BRING ONE HOME TAKE A LOOK AT OUR AMAZON WISH LIST. WE'RE ALWAYS IN NEED OF ITEMS FOR OUR FOSTER KITTENS AND SHELTERED ANIMALS.
[Retirement announcement - Robert Berryhill]
THAT INCLUDES. >> OKAY. THIS AFTERNOON WE HAVE A VERY SPECIAL STAFF RECOGNITION.
WE'RE CELEBRATING OUR RETIREMENT.
WE ALREADY HAD A CELEBRATION. IT'S MUCH COOLER IN HERE BUT IF YOU GET TOO CLOSE TO US YOU MIGHT SMELL US BUT THAT'S OKAY.
A LITTLE AIR CONDITIONING ISSUE. BUT WE WERE THRILLEDED TO BE THERE. WE HAVE ROBERT BARRY HILL RETIRING AFTER 40 YEARS OF SERVICE TO CLAY COUNTY.
>> YOU'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE MISSED.
I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE LOTS OF STORY SO I'LL PASS THE MICROPHONE OVER TO HER. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE GIVEN US. WE CAN NEVER SAY THANK YOU
ENOUGH. >> WE HAD A GREAT CELEBRATION EARLIER TODAY. WE'RE DEFINITELY SAD THAT ROBERT'S LEAVING US BUT WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO SOAK IN SOME OF THAT KNOWLEDGE HE HAS. HE KNOWS EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW. HE'S BEEN HERE 40 YEARS.
>> I THOUGHT ONE OF THE MOST POIGNANT THINGS TOO WAS WHEN THE COUNTY MANAGER TALKED ABOUT RESPONDING AT 10:30 AT NIGHT RESPONDING TO AN EMERGENCY AT HIS HOME AND YOU WERE THERE.
THAT HIS HIS COMMITMENT. THANK YOU.
WE'LL TAKE PICTURES BUT I KNOW YOU'RE TOO HUMBLE TO TAKE THE MICROPHONE BUT WE WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME PRAISE.
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[APPLAUSE]. >> IT'S ALWAYS A LITTLE BITTER SWEET. BITTER FOR US, SWEET FOR THEM.
[ULI TAPs - College Drive Initiative]
NEXT WE WILL MOVE TO PRESENTATION.WE HAVE OUR ULI WHICH IS THE URBAN LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE TAPS COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE PRESENTATION.
>> HELLO, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME AND OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT THE RECENTLY COMPLETED REPORT FOR THE URBAN LAND INSTITUTE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE PANEL FOR THE COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE.
THE PANEL CONVENED AT THE END OF MARCH AND YOU ALL HAVE RECEIVED THE REPORT FOR THIS AND WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW SOME HIGH LEVEL ITEMS FROM THE REPORT WITH RECOMM RECOMMENDATIONS, NEXT STEPS, AND SOME OTHER FEEDBACK THAT WAS GIVEN. SO AS YOU'LL SEE, THE PANEL LOOKED OVER THE AREA FROM LANDING BOULEVARD TO COLLEGE DRIVE TO COUNTY ROAD 220. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS, URBAN LAND INSTITUTE IS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION WHOSE MISSION IS TO SHAPE THE FUTURE AND BUILD AN ENVIRONMENT FOR TRANSFORMATIVE IMPACTS OF COMMUNITIES WORLDWIDE.
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE PANEL I'LL REFER TO AS A TAPS IS A TWO-DAY SESSION THAT WOULD PATROL MOTE ECONOMIC GROWTH, SOUND DEVELOPMENT PRACTICES, LIVEABILITY, AND ACCESS TO ENTERTAINMENT VENUES. THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION WAS HIGHEST AND BEST USES FOR THE STUDY AREA INCLUDING IDENTIFYING A RANGE OF USES THAT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING, COMMITTED, AND PLANNED USES AND PUBLIC FACILITIES WITHIN THE COLLEGE DRIVE AREA. THE THIRD RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR STRATEGIES FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES TO PROMOTE MOBILITY TO, FROM, AND WITHIN THE STUDY AREA AS WELL AS ANY RESULTING ADJUSTMENTS TO CURRENT LAND USE, TRANSPORTATION, RECREATION, AND OPEN SPACE PLANS. BASED OFF THE REPORT THE PROPOSED TIMELINE WAS BROKEN OUT INTO A SHORT TERM, MEDIUM TERM, AND LONG TERM. THE SHORT TERM OF ONE TO THREE YEARS INCLUDED THE FOLLOWING. CREATE A PLACE MAKING PLAN.
DEVELOP FORMAL ACTION PLAN. CONSOLIDATE A BUSINESS ZONING.
DELAY RESURFACING OTHER ROAD PLANS.
DETERMINE FUNDING OPTIONS. LOOK FOR ACTIVE PASSIVE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AND CONSOLIDATE PARCELS.
FOR THE MEDIUM TERM WHICH INCLUDED THREE TO FIVE YEARS THE FOLLOWING WERE PROPOSED. IMPLEMENT A CORE ROAD DIET.
SUBMIT FUNDING APPLICATIONS. ESTABLISH NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. DEVELOP BRANDING AND SIGNAGE AND POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND THE LAST WAS LONG TERM FIVE PLUS YEARS INCLUDING WATER, SEWER AND STORM WATER, REDEVELOPMENT, REDEVELOP AROUND ST. JOHN'S RIVER STATE COLLEGE AND COMPLETE CORRIDOR REDESIGN TO PROMOTE MOBILITY.
SO THE FOLLOWING EIGHT RECOMMENDATIONS WERE PROPOSED BY THE PANELISTS. THE FIRST ONE WAS TO CREATE A BRAND OR THEME FOR THE COLLEGE DRIVE CORRIDOR.
THE SECOND WAS TO DEVELOP A PLACE MAKING PLAN AND INITIATE A DESIGN. THE THIRD WAS TO COMBINE BUSINESS ZONES. THE FOURTH WAS TO CREATE A CORE AREA BETWEEN OLD JENNINGS ROAD AND MOSLEY ROAD AND CLUSTER
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INITIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ALREADY THERE.NUMBER FIVE WAS TO DEVELOP HIGHEST AND BEST USES.
SIX IS RECONFIGURE THE ROADWAY WITH THE ROAD DIET THROUGH THE CORE AREA. SEVEN, INCORPORATE GREEN SPACE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITY, AND THEN THE EIGHTH WAS TO DETERMINE FUNDING SOURCES. SO AFTER MEETING WITH INTERNAL STAFF, THE PROPOSED NEXT STEPS WE'D LIKE YOUR BLESSING ON IS THE FOLLOWING: FIRST WE'D LIKE TO MEET WITH ST. JOHN'S RIVER STATE COLLEGE BOARD TO BRIEF THE REPORT AND TO GET THEIR VISION FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS. THE SECOND WOULD BE TO CREATE PLACE MAKING COMMITTEE TO INCLUDE LARGE STAKEHOLDERS ON COLLEGE DRIVE THAT WILL REVIEW PROPOSAL OF OVERLAY DISTRICT.
THE THIRD IS TO CONDUCT A -- WITH THE COMMUNITY ON COLLEGE DRIVE AND THE LAST IS TO MEET WITH THE VA MIDDLEBURG CLINIC, CLAY COUNTY AUTHORITY, AND CLAY ELECTRIC BASED ON THE INFORMATION FROM THE REPORT.
QUESTIONS FOR GABRIEL? >> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
WHAT'S THE DEFINITION OF ROAD DIET?
>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I HAVE SOME GREAT PICTURES.
>> IT'S BASICALLY TAKING IN THIS CASE A FOUR LANE ROAD AND THEN IN ONE AREA BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERET, IT COULD BE PUTTING ON STREET PARKING, IT COULD BE WIDENING SIDEWALKS, WHATEVER, BUT SHRINKING THE ROAD DOWN TO TWO LANES INSTEAD OF THE FOUR LANES AND SO THERE WOULD BE SOME KIND OF DEMARKATION TO GET DRIVERS TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO THE TWO LANES FROM FOUR LANES AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT DOES IS IN ADDITION TO SLOW TRAFFIC AND COM TRAFFIC GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ON STREET PARKING OR WHATEVER ELSE YOU WANT TO GO THERE. IN TALLEDEGA FOUR LANES WERE COMING OUT OUT OF AT AED JULY AND NOW THEY HAVE TWO LANES AND THEY'VE DONE A LOT WITH THAT EXTRA TERRITORY INCLUDING BIKE LANES FOR MOBILITY PURPOSES. YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IN THE ACTUAL REPORT.
>> TALLAHASSEE IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT THEY CAN DO AND WITH A FOUR LANE HIGHWAY AND IT'S SPURRED QUITE A BIT OF DEVELOPMENT ON THAT ON GAME STREET.
>> YES. AND I TALKED TO THE PEOPLE IN TALLAHASSEE ABOUT IT AND THE COMMON THOUGHT WOULD BE WELL YOU'RE SHRINKING THE LANE TO TWO LANES.
WILL IT BE A PROBLEM? THE FACT IS AS LONG AS YOU CAN CLEAR THEM OUT AT INTERSECTIONS THEY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.
THAT STREET THAT COMES OUT AH OF THE STADIUM AND MOVES PEOPLE AWAY FROM TALLAHASSEE AND DURING GAME DAYS, THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM WHEN THEY HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE AS THEY HAVE.
THE OTHER ASPECT TO THAT IS IN THIS AREA YOU ALSO HAVE NIGHT BOX WHICH RUNS NORTH SOUTH SO SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS THIS IS IN PLACE AND RATHER THAN TAKING TIME TO GO THROUGH THE AREA OF REDEVELOPMENT, THEY'D BE ABLE TO GO AROUND AND TAKE NIGHT BOX AND STILL NOT HAVE A PROBLEM IF THEY'RE IN A HURRY TO GET THERE.
YOU COULD ALSO LOOK AT THAT AS MAYBE AVONDALE WHEN THEY HAVE THAT AREA BLOCKED OFF. THAT'S SORT OF THE THOUGHT BEHIND THAT. OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO DO MORE STUDY BUT THIS FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE REPORT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY RECOMMENDED TO LOOK INTO.
>> PARALLEL PARKING, DIAGONAL PARKING, WALKABILITY, BIKEBILITY. LOOK AT ALL THAT.
>> IS THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE DELAY REEXAMINE RESOURCING
THERE'S NO SENSE IN DOING SOMETHING NOW AND THEN HAVING TO REDO IT AND SPEND MORE MONEY ON IT SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, MIGHT AS WELL COMBINE THAT ALL INTO ONE AND ALSO GIVES US PLANS ON PUTTING ANY KIND OF FUNDING OPTIONS IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION AT SOME POINT DOWN THE LINE.
IT WILL IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THIS IS TO FORM OUR OWN PLACE MAKING WHICH WILL BE PART STAFF. PART COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE
FOLKS. >> FINISHING OFF WITH A CHERETTE
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TO HELP FOLKS FROM THE AREA TO COME IN AND SAY WHAT DO THEY THINK IS THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS.MAYBE WE'RE WAY OFF THE MARK ON SOME THINGS.
MAYBE WE'RE DEAD ON. WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO 200 THROUGH THE COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WE'VE HAD AND NOW IT'S TIME TO ADD SOME SPECIFICS AND SEE IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN THOSE SPECIFICS. OF COURSE MEETING WITH THE DA WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THAT AREA AND ALSO THE ELECTRIC AND WATER AND SEWER. CAN'T GO TOO FAR UNLESS THOSE FOLKS ARE READY TO MOVE ON IT. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS CREATE THAT NEXT STEPS, SHORT TERM ONE TO THREE YEARS, PUT THAT PLACE MAKING GROUP TOGETHER, DEVELOP A REAL ACTION PLAN IN TERMS OF GOING TO TALK TO PRESIDENT PICKENS AND MAYBE THE BOARD. WE'VE ALREADY STARTED CONVERSATIONS IN THE ZONING AREA AS TO WHAT WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF OVERLAY. THERE'S, LIKE, 16 DIFFERENT ZONES IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. THEY RECOMMEND CUTTING THAT WAY BACK. AND ZONING -- PUTTING THE ZONING IN PLACE WHICH WILL THEN PREVENT US HAVING TO SAY NO TO PEOPLE HAVING TO PUT A MINI STORAGE WAREHOUSE FACILITY AND WHATEVER
THE CASE MAY BE. >> WHAT ABOUT THAT AREA WHERE IT CROSSES OVER --
WE HAVE THE COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD -- >> THE CITIZENS GROUP WHICH IS SOMEWHAT SIMILAR BUT THEY'RE FOCUSED ON THIS PARTICULAR ASPECT RATHER THAN ALL ZONING AND PLANNING THAT WOULD NORMALLY
YEAH. >> THAT'S MORE OF AN ADVERTISED PROCESS WHERE THEY APPLY WHERE YOURS IS NOT AS MUCH.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF YOU HAD ONE
THEY HAVEN'T -- THEY'VE NEVER PUT ONE IN PLACE AND I THINK ONCE WE GET THE OVERLAY AND WE GET AN IDEA AS TO WHAT ZONING LOOKS LIKE DOWN THE ROAD, IT WILL MAKE THAT MUCH EASIER IN THAT CORRIDOR FOR DEVELOPERS AND THOSE PEOPLE TO COME IN BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO GET CHANGED BECAUSE THAT'S -- WE'VE GOT A CERTAIN SPECIFIC KIND OF BUSINESS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO OR RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO PUT THERE.
>> OTHER QUESTIONS? ON THIS. DISCUSSION? YOU'RE LOOKING FOR US TO APPROVE NEXT STEPS BUT DON'T KNOW THE
COST YET? >> WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOU TO ADOPT -- THE PLAN IS WRITTEN WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH FIRST STEP. WE SPENT THE MONEY ON THE PLAN.
WE'VE GOT TO MOVE FORWARD JUST LIKE WE DO WITH THE OTHER PLANS THAT WE HAVE -- THE SESSIONS THAT WE HOPE TO HAVE.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT HAPPEN AS BEST AS WE CAN.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GOING TO BE THINGS THAT THEY RECOMMENDED THAT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE DONE AS THEY RECOMMENDED BUT THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVE THAT WE CAN DERIVE THAT WILL GET US TO A SIMILAR KIND OF FINISH. BUT I THINK THE OTHER FOLKS IN THE OTHER AREAS SHOULD BE EXCITED.
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I THINK THEY WERE THOROUGH. WE HAD I THINK HOW MANY ON THE TAP PLAN. OF THE SESSION? THE PANEL? EIGHT.SO THERE'S EIGHT PROFESSIONALS FROM AROUND THE STATE THAT CAME IN. TOP OF THE LIST IN TERMS OF THEIR REPUTATIONS AND I THINK THE OTHER FOLKS SHOULD BE VERY EXCITED ABOUT HAVING THAT PLAN BEING DONE IN PLACE SO THAT WE
CAN MOVE THOSE AREAS AHEAD TOO. >> YEAH.
>> JUST CONSENSUS IF EVERYBODY THINKS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO FOLLOW AND THEN OBVIOUSLY EVERY STEP EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS WE'LL BE VOTING ON ZONING AND OTHER THINGS AS WE GET TO THOSE ELEMENTS.
>> OKAY. SO ONE STEP AT A TIME.
>> THIS IS GREAT. >> I'M FOR IT.
>> I'M GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. EVERYBODY GOOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THEY'RE QUIET AND READY TO
MOVE ON. >> LET ME MAKE A COMMENT.
YOU KNOW, LAST MEETING, WE DEFERRED A ROAD PROJECT ON WELLS ROAD AND YOU CAN SEE HOW IMPORTANT TRANSPORTATION AND LINES OF COMMUNICATION ARE TO BUSINESSES AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- I WANT TO -- THE REASONS I WANT IT DELAYED IS IT'S KIND OF A SURPRISE BUT TWO IT REALLY AFFECTS IN MY CASE WELLS ROAD.
AL BE IT IT'S ANOTHER -- ALBEIT, IT'S A STATE ENTITY.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMUNITY OF THE PROJECT. SO I CAN SEE WHERE DELAYING COLLEGE DRIVE RENOVATION IS -- SHOULD BE DONE UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT TO DO. PARALLEL PARKING, DIAGONAL PARKING, BIKE PATHS, WALKING PATHS.
WHATEVER IT IS, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT IN PLAN BEFORE WE RENOVATE
I HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD BUT IT'S REGARDING THIS, SO I'M GOING TO HAVE HER GO AHEAD AND COME UP.
SHE HAS HER SHIRT ON. >> HI, Y'ALL.
YOU HOW YOU DOING TONIGHT? I'M HERE TO TALK ABILITY COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE AND COLLEGE DRIVE, GABY.
I'VE BEEN OFF OF COLLEGE FIVE 15 YEARS.
TEN YEARS AGO IF YOU WOULD HAVE ASKED ME ABOUT COLLEGE DRIVE I WOULD HAVE SAID NO. THREE YEARS AGO YOU GUYS DID SOMETHING GREAT. THAT GENTLEMAN RIGHT OVER THERE WHO LISTENS TO THE PEOPLE AND TALKS TO US.
LIVES BETTER. BY DOING THAT, HE HAS MADE PEOPLE PROUD TO BE FROM COLLEGE DRIVE.
AND CDI HAS DONE A GREAT JOB IF -- I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN TO FOOD TRUCK FRIDAYS. IT'S A GREAT COMMUNITY EFFORT AND THE COMMUNITY HAS COME TOGETHER AND IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE BIKE PATHS. TALKING ABOUT THE POND TO PARK.
I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE SEEN THAT AT THE THE END OF CRIPPLING
DRIVE WHERE IT'S NOW A PARK. >> WE WANT TO BRING MORE OF THAT SAME THING TO COLLEGE DRIVE INSTEAD OF MAKING IT, OH, I NEED TO GO TO THE ISLAND, LET ME GO DOWN COLLEGE TO HEY THERE'S A COOL SHOP, THERE'S A GREAT RESTAURANT.
LET'S GO. AND THAT'S WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO LIVE. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
WE HAVEN'T STOPPED EVERYTHING. THERE WILL BE A STORM WAR PROJECT IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS TO ADDRESS STORM WATER FLOW AND
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FLOODING IN THAT AREA AND IT IS JUST AN EXTREME ELEVATION CHANGE WITHIN THAT AREA AND MUCH NEEDED REPAIR THAT RICHARD AND THE TEAM HAS COORDINATED AND IT WILL START COMING UP HERE.JUST WANTED -- I'VE HEARD ABOUT DELAYS IN THAT BUT WHEN IT COMESES TO THOSE THINGS THEY NEED TO BE FIXED.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ITEM? >> AND JUST MADAME CHAIR THERE'S A GROUP OF FOLKS FROM COLLEGE DRIVE SOME SERVING ON THE CDI COMMITTEE AND SOME NOT BUT YOU CAN WAVE.
[1. Fiscal Year 2022 Audit Report (D. Caudill)]
>> STANDING IN FOR THE CLERK OF THE COURT AND COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, THE ONLY ONE WHO DIDN'T GET TO GO TO THE CONFERENCE.
[LAUGHTER]. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
NUMBERS GUY. THEY DON'T LET ME OUT MUCH.
[LAUGHTER]. >> I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT CLAY COUNTY RECEIVED AN OPINION ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR THE YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2022.
WE'RE. ANNOUNCER TWO: GOOD SHAPE.
OF $133 MILLION FOR THE FLORIDA RETIREMENT SYSTEM PENSION LIABILITY AND INCREASED OF $86 MILLION FROM LAST YEAR.
YOU MAY REMEMBER FROM LAST YEAR THAT THERE WAS ACTUALLY A REDUCTION IN THE LIABILITY BY 114 MILLION.
SO THIS NUMBER IS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
THE ACTUARY FOR THE STATE TO GET THE BEST EDUCATION AND IT REQUIRES WE PUT IT ON THERE. THE COUNTY'S REVENUES EXCEEDED EXPENDITURES ABOUT 36.9 MILLION SO THAT'S ALWAYS GOOD AND THE COUNTY IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL DEBT-RELATED ITEMS AND ARE OUTSTANDING BALANCES AROUND 120 MILLION.
KEY VARIANCES BETWEEN THE YEAR BUDGET VERSUS ACTUAL SPENDING ANTICIPATED ENGINEERING AND OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES DID NOT OCCUR AS THE PROJECTED STARTED LATER AND RESULTED IN A POSITIVE VARIANCE OF 3.9 MILLION.
ANTICIPATED REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE PRIMARILY FOR BUILDINGS VEHICLES AND GROUNDS DID NOT OCCUR RESULTING IN A POSITIVE VARIANCE OF 3.1 MILLION.
SALARIES AND RELATED BENEFITS WERE LOWER THAN ANTICIPATED BY 2.5 MILLION AND LAND PURCHASES WERE LESS THAN BUDGET PLUS STATUTE 53380 PRAYER 7 LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF CARRY FORWARD FUNDS WE CAN HAVE BASED ON THE NEWS OF THE COUNTY TO ENFORCE THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE FUTURE PRO PROJECTS. SUBMIT THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS
TO THE JUNE 30TH DEADLINE. >> THANK YOU.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DAVID? AND I WOULD ASSUME YOU ALL HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THEM AND ASK QUESTIONS AND LOOK AT THE AUDIT IN ITS RAW FORM.
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LIT GO TO TAR ARE FOR ELECTRONIC SIGNIFICANT AS WELL.>> MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR.
MOTION CARRIES 4-0. THANK YOU.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
NEXT IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES. WORKSHOP AND REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING. WE CAN DO THEM SEPARATELY ORTOGETHER. >> I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE COMMISSIONER WORKSHOP ON JUNE 6TH AS WELL AS THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING ON JUNE 13TH.
>> SECOND. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
MOTION CARRIES 4-0. >>> TOTALLY MISSED THAT THERE WERE ANY OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS BUT I DON'T THINK THAT
[PUBLIC COMMENTS]
THERE ARE. >> NEXT WE ARE AT PUBLIC COMMENT. I DO NOT HAVE ANY CARDS.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK AT FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT? COME ON UP, MR. OTTO.
>> JAMES OTTO, 2908 LANDING BOULEVARD CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA HOTELS. I WATCHED THE LAST MEETING AND I WAS HAPPY TO HEAR THE SHERIFF TALK THE WAY SHE DID ABOUT SAND RING AND THAT WHOLE MESS OVER THERE.
I'VE BEEN TELLING Y'ALL THAT. >> WHAT ARE WE DOING SPENDING THAT WHEN WE HAVEN'T FINISHED THE TRAILS THAT WERE STARTED ALL THOSE YEARS AGO FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY AND OTHERS THAT COME TO THIS COUNTY? WE HAD TALKED ABOUT A MORATORIUM IN THE PAST BUT OBVIOUSLY THIS IS NOT REALLY A MORATORIUM.
WE NEED A REAL MORATORIUM ON COMMISSIONER -- ON COMMERCIAL BUILDING IN THIS COUNTY. YOU KNOW.
THERE WAS A SERIOUS ACCIDENT ON 95.
MARION COUNTY HAS OVERGROWN SO MUCH THEY CAN'T EVEN GET THE TRAFFIC ALL THE HIGHWAY SO THEY HAD ALL THESE ACCIDENTS AND DON'T KNOW WHY. WELL, THEY'RE BACKING UP INTO THE SLOW LANE OF THE HIGHWAY. THAT'S PROBABLY NOT AS BIG OF A DEAL BAD WAY AND YOU FOLKS THAT HAVE COME ON TO THIS AND I'M SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT DR. BURKE. I WAS PAYING ATTENTION.
PRAYERS TO HER FAMILY. BUT THIS OVERGROWTH JUST NEEDS TO COMPLETELY STOP. YOU GUYS GOT SUCH A MESS GOING ON HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTY.
WE NEED TO GET SOME KIND OF PLAN FOR YOUR AREA.
WE NEED A PLAN FOR THAT PART OF THE COUNTY.
WE WANT THE HIGHEST IMPACT FEES. WE DON'T WANT THE LOWEST.
IF THEY'RE GOING TO COME TO OUR COUNTY AND THAT PART OF THE COUNTY AND MAKE IT A MESS LIKE THEY DID ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE COUNTY THEY NEED TO PAY FOR IT.
I KNOW WE'VE TALKED MANY TIMES ABOUT THAT AND I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE IMPACT FEE HAS NOT BEEN PUT INTO PLACE.
>> THANK YOU, MR. OTTO. THE IMPACT FEES WENT INTO PLACE
JUNE 1ST. >> IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN YEARS AGO. YEARS AGO.
>> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
[CONSENT AGENDA]
ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA?>> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL 8, 9, AND 12.
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ANYTHING ELSE?>> I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS ITEM 6.
>> OKAY. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION WITHOUT ITEMS 6, 8, 9,
>> SECONDED. >> OKAY. MOTION AND SECOND.
FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
>> AYE. >> MOTION CARRIES 4-0.
>> I THINK I SAID 5-0 ON THE PREVIOUS ONE.
[6. National Fitness Campaign Sponsorship Opportunities and Grant Award (G. Biastre/M. Mosley)]
>> THOUGHT BECAUSE OF THE NEWNESS OF WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH OUR SPONSORSHIPS AND THINGS THAT WE SHOULD DISCUSS THAT.
I'VE HAD DISCUSSION WITH THE FOLKS AS WELL.
MAYBE WE COULD GET JUSTIN AN OVERALL VIEW OF THE PARK AND THEN WE CAN GET INTO THE DOLLARS AND CENTS WITH MEGAN AND GEORGE.
IT'S THE PRICE OF THE MATERIAL WHICH IS A FITNESS WALL WITH DIFFERENT POOL COMPONENTS ON THE BACK SIDE.
IT HAS ALMOST A TARP TO WHERE YOU CAN TEACH ANY TYPE OF YOGA CLASS. GOAT YOGA.
ZUMBA. IT'S UTILIZED FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BUT ON THE FRONT SIDE IT'S ALMOST A CROSS FIT OUTDOOR STATION FOR RESIDENTS TO USE FOR WILDERNESS OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL AS DIFFERENT FINANCIAL VENDORS TO USE AND RENT THAT FACILITY FROM THE COUNTY. HAVING OUTDOOR CLASSES IN THE LATE AFTERNOON AND EARLY MORNING.
IT'S A HEAVY UTILIZED PARK IN THE COUNTY AND THAT WAS SELECTED ON THE SPONSORSHIP SIDE OF IT. THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR DIFFERENT SPONSORS TO COME. IT GIVES A NICE VISUAL ALONG THE DRIVE AS WELL AS IF YOU'RE ENTERING THE PARK AND HAVING MULTIPLE RENTAL ACTIVITIES AND FAMILIES ENJOYING THE LARGE PLAYGROUND THERE GIVING EXPOSURE MAKING IT VERY MARKETABLE FOR THE TEAM BUT WE DO HAVE SOME FITNESS STATIOS IN MAY COUNTY BUT THEY'RE MAINLY FALL PREVENTION BUT A LOT OF IT IS STRETCHING TYPE COMPONENTS BUT NOT ACTUAL FITNESS AND GET BUFF LIKE THE DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES TYPE.
[LAUGHTER]. >> THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO BRING AND ADD THAT FITNESS COMPONENT TO THE COUNTY.
>> IS THIS LIKE A NINJA WARRIOR WALL?
>> IT'S LIKE A CROSS FIT STATION, PULL STATIONS, SIT UP STATIONS ON THE OUTSIDE. IT'S SIMPLY A LARGE ROOM OUTDOOR ROOM TO WHERE YOU CAN HAVE FITNESS COURSES AND CLASSES AS WELL. THE EXERCISE STOPS AND I GUESS
>> THOSE ARE IN MY MIND NOT USED ALL THAT MUCH.
RIGHT. AND SO MY QUESTION TO HIM WAS WE'RE PUTTING ANOTHER OUTDOOR EXERCISE COMMUNITY IN PLACE IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE USED AND HE SAID THAT THE DECISION TO PUT IT IN MOODY PARK WAS BECAUSE THE YMCA IS DOWN THE
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STREET -- ESPECIALLY WITH OVERFLOW AND THAT KIND OF THING SO WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK SOME PROGRAMS WITH THEM UTILIZING THE FACILITY. THE BIG PROBLEM IS IN MY MIND WAS $160,000 PRICE TAG. WE GET 30,000 AS THE GRANT.WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH 160,000 AND I ASKED JUSTIN ABOUT THAT 160,000, IS THERE SOME PLACE BETTER TO PUT IT AND HE WAS VERY ADAMANT ABOUT THE FACT THAT BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION IT WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING TO BE UTILIZED QUITE A BIT.
>> YES, SIR. AND SPEAKING ABOUT THE FITNESS OPPORTUNITIES, CAMP GLADIATOR IS ONE OF THE USER GROUPS THAT DESERVES -- ON SATURDAY MORNINGS THEY HAVE AN ACTUAL FITNESS PROGRAM THAT YOU WORK UNDER THE PAVILION OR OVERHANGS WHEN IT RAINS BUT THEY HAVE A CONTINGENCY WHERE THEY ALSO HAVE OAK LEAF BUT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO RENT THAT FROM THE COUNTY AND PUT ON FITNESS PROGRAMS FOR RESIDENTS.
SO THERE IS A DUAL POPULATION THAT USES THAT PARK FOR ITNESS.
AS WELL AS OPPORTUNITY -- FITNESS AS WELL AS OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUTH AND FITNESS PROGRAMS AND SOCCER PROGRAMS. AGAIN WITH MOODY HAVING THE VARIETY OF PLAYGROUNDS OPEN SPACE, MULTIPURPOSE VEHICLES ADDING THAT FITNESS COMPONENT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT'S ONE OF A KIND.
WE HAVE THAT FITNESS NINJA COURSE BUT IT'S MORE OF A RUN THROUGH HAVE A FUN THING PULL UP AND GET OUT.
MY SON DOES IT ALL THE TIME THANK GOD BECAUSE HE GOES TO SLEEP AFTER AND THEN THE OTHER PARKS YOU HAVE MORE FALL PREVESS AROUND A WALKING TRAIL AND IT'S SOMETHING TO WHERE YOU CAN -- BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU REALLY GET A GOOD FITNESS FOR THOSE ENTHUSISTS. IT WILL BE ONE OF A KIND IN CLAY COULD WANTY AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN BRING THAT INTO THE BUDGET NEXT FISCAL YEAR TO GIVE YOU INSIGHT ON PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AND THESE THINGS. A SMALL PLAYGROUND EVEN WILL RUN YOU ANYWHERE BETWEEN 180 TO $200,000 FOR A SMALL SLIDE.
SO TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT CAN SERVE THAT POPULATION AS WELL AS YOUTH WHO ARE VERY FIT AND ATHLETIC I THINK THAT COULD BE A
GREAT BENEFIT. >> IS THERE A FEE IF THEY
APPARENTLY OUR INSTRUCTOR CONTRACTED AS TO WHERE YOU PAY $10 PER HOUR TO THE COUNTY AND WHATEVER FEE YOU CHARGE TO THE USER GROUP AFTER YOU HIS HONOR IN YOUR INSURANCE AND CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS, THAT IS YOUR BUSINESS TO RUN.
IN THE PAST WE WOULD CHARGE A 75, 25 SPLIT BUT CHASING THAT DOWN DID YOU HAVE 20 PARTICIPANTS? WHAT IT 35 AND YOU ONLY REPORTED 30 CAUSED A LOT OF ISSUES SO WE JUST CHARGE A FLAT RATE AND WHATEVER YOU MAKE AS AN
INSTRUCTOR IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY. >> AND ONE THING THAT JUSTIN BROUGHT UP DURING OUR DISCUSSION WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HARKEN BACK TO I THINK IT WAS A PRIORITY FOR COMMISSIONER -- AT THE TIME WHICH WAS COMING UP WITH ADULT KIND OF RECREATIONAL
OPPORTUNITIES. >> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.
>> SO IS THIS AN -- DO YOU WANT TO ASK ME QUESTIONS OR GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND OF THINGS THAT I FOUND OUT
RECENTLY. >> DO THE LATTER AND THEN WE CAN
ASK QUESTIONS. >> OKAY. SO THERE IS NOT -- WE'D LIKE TO SAY THAT, OKAY, I'LL GO OUT AND FIND THIS $160,000 TO REPLACE. BUT THE RESEARCH THAT I'VE DONE IS I FOUND THAT THERE'S A WIDE VARIETY OF WAYS THAT
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MUNICIPALITIES FUND THESE AND THERE'S A WIDE VARIETY OF WAYS THAT SPONSORS COME TO THE TABLE TO OFFSET THE COST.THERE'S A SPONSOR IN MIAMI THAT BASICALLY PAID FOR THE ENTIRE THING. OVER IN PENSACOLA THERE WAS ABOUT 20 SPONSORS THAT CAME TOGETHER, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE PUT THAT TOGETHER IN PENSACOLA FUNDING THREE INSTALLATIONS. THAT'S THREE TIMES $160,000 FOR THEM. OF COURSE JUSTIN HAS THE EXPERIENCE OVER IN PENSACOLA. IT LOOKS LIKE A VERY ACTIVELY USED FORMAT. THESE ARE VERY ATTRACTIVE FITNESS WALLS. SPEAKING OF WALL, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR BRANDING FOR AN ENGAGED SPONSOR TO HAVE THEIR BRANDING BOTH ON THE WALL AND WITHIN AN APP FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO USE THE WALL AND FOLLOW A FITNESS PROGRAM THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR BRANDING WITHIN THE APP.
THAT THEY WILL RECEIVE IMPRESSIONS TO THEIR BRAND FORM.
SO I'M GOING TO BE SEEKING A HEALTHY LIVING TYPE OF SPONSOR
TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE. >> ANY QUESTIONS?
>> THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IT'S COMMON FOR THEIR ARTISTS TO GET PAID. ONE HAS ENGAGED IN I THINK -- WHERE SHE DEVELOPED A MURAL AND WAS PAID SO WE CAN ATTRIBUTE A COST TO THAT FUNCTION. THEY'RE ALREADY CONSIDERING DONATING THAT SKILL SET. IF WE SHOULD DESIRE TO --
>> AND I THINK THE OTHER KEY FACTOR HERE IS THAT IT'S NOT JUST A SPONSORSHIP THAT THE BUSINESS OR THE ORGANIZATION CAN GET INVOLVED WITH. THEY CAN PUT A PROGRAM TOGETHER WHETHER IT'S WELLNESS PROGRAM OR SOMETHING UTILIZING AROUND THAT.
SO IT ACTUALLY REINFORCES THEIR SPONSORSHIP DOLLAR.
>> SUPPORT THEIR MISSION TO HEALTHY LIVING IF SO DESIRED CERTAINLY.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE WITH AYE. >> AYE.
>> THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES 4-0.
[8. Modification Three to Subgrant Agreement No. B0071 (2019/2020-111) Re: 4055 Lazy Acres Road Flood Mitigation (M. Mosley)]
THANK YOU. ITEM 8.MODIFICATION 3 TO SUB GRANT AGREEMENT B 00712.
THIS GOES BACK TO 2019-2020 REGARDING LAZY ACRES ROAD FLOOD
MITIGATION. >> I WOULD LIKE TO -- EIGHT AND NINE ARE KIND OF THE SAME. I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT
[9. Third Amendment to Flood Mitigation Assistance Grant Agreement No. 2019/2020-112 with Stephen M. Williams (M. Mosley)]
IT BEFORE WE CONSIDER THOSE. EIGHT AND NINE INVOLVE A GRANT FLOOD MITIGATION GRANT WHERE A HOME WAS RAISED 18-20 FEET.THE GRANT WAS A FEMA GRANT THROUGH THE STATE OF FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT I THINK.
THE ADMINISTERED THE GRANT. THE INDIVIDUAL WHO APPLIED FOR THE FRONT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EXECUTING THE GRANT.
IN THIS GRANT THESE TWO PR PROPOSALS, I THINK WE HAVE STEPPED OUTSIDE OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO ASSIST THIS INDIVIDUAL TO EXECUTE THIS GRANT BY OFFERING AN RFP TO PURCHASE A STAIRWELL, STAIRS TO THE FACILITY.
THE FACILITY HAD AN ARCHITECT AND CONTRACTOR AND PLUMBING ELECTRICAL INVOLVED BUT THE ARCHITECT I DON'T THINK
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UNDERSTOOD THE STARES TO GET TO THE HOME WEREN'T SATISFACTORY TO FEMA. SO THE FACILITY DID NOT PASS INSPECTION. THE HOMEOWNER GOT A BID THAT HE THOUGHT WAS WAY OVER WHAT IT COST AND WHAT HE COULD AFFORD.ANY COST ABOVE THE GRANT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOMEOWNER.
THE COST THAT HE GOT FOR THIS STAIRWELL WAS EXCEPTIONALLY HIGH SO HE ASKED US FOR ASSISTANCE WHICH WE SHOULD ASSIST BUT WE'RE OUTSIDE OUR AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY BY GETTING INVOLVED WITH THE EXECUTION OF THE GRANT.
NOT THE ADMIN ADMINISTRATION. WORE AT ABOUT 90% OF THE GRANT EXECUTION SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT 100,000 WOULD TAKE.
IT'S WELL OVER THE AUTHORITY OF THE GRANT.
THE GRANT DOESN'T INVOLVE AN INCREASE IN FUNDS.
I THINK JUST SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE HEADED I THINK WE'LL BE HEADED INTO -- I THEIRIZE WE'LL BE HEADED INTO A FOURTH MODIFICATION WHICH WILL BE AN INCREASE IN FUNDS TO DEVELOP THIS -- FINISH THIS PROJECT.
NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE TO CAUTION EVERYBODY ON IS WITH THIS PROJECT IF IT'S NOT COMPLETED, THEY CAN CLAW BACK ALL THE MONEY. OKAY. SO IF THEY DON'T -- IF I'M CORRECT WE'RE HEADED TOWARD A FOURTH MODIFICATION WHICH INCREASES THE FUNDING TO THIS PROJECT. IF THEY DON'T INCREASE THAT NUMBER THEN THE HOMEOWNER IS GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE.
IF HE'S NOT RESPONSIBLE WE COULD -- THIS COULD END UP IN A PROJECT NOT BEING COMPLETED. IT COULD END UP IN A CLAW BACK SITUATION. SO THIS PROJECT WAS STARTED I THINK RIGHT BEFORE THE FOUR OF US CAME ON THE COMMISSION AND IT'S BEEN THREE AND A HALF YEARS -- THREE YEARS PLUS IN THE MAKING. AND SO IT'S -- IT'S TAKING A LONG TIME TO GET TO THIS AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE A COMPLETED PROJECT. I THINK THIS IS A STEP WE SHOULD TAKE BUT WITH DUE REGARD IN WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
AND IT'S -- AND I VIEW IT AS A SIMPLE SUPPORTING OUR CONSTITUENCY IN TRYING TO EFFECT A PROJECT THAT WE AGREED TO A LONG TIME AGO. BUT IT'S NOT WITHOUT -- IT COULD NOT BE -- IT MAY BE WITH CONSEQUENCES IN THE FUTURE.
ACTUALLY A TRANSFER OF COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY TO AN INDIVIDUAL.
OKAY. AND THERE IS A MOVE AFOOT I THINK AS OF JULY 1ST, THE GOVERNOR SIGNED A LAW THAT SAYS WE OUGHT TO SURVEY ALL OUR PROPERTY AND SEE WHAT'S SUITABLE.
I THINK IN THE LIGHT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO, YOU KNOW, IN THE SAME MEETING WE'RE BUYING PROPERTY FROM INDIVIDUALS AT $65,000 AN ACRE AND IN THIS CASE WE'VE GIVEN AWAY AN ACRE FOR NOTHING. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE STAFF UNDERSTANDS I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A RUBRIC WHERE WE LOOK AT PROPERTY SUCH AS THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT SUITABLE FOR PORTABLE HOUSING OR THIS PROPERTY JUST LOOKING AT THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE SUITABLE TO ME WITHOUT STUDY FOR A CELL TOWER. IT COULD BE REVENUE GENERATING IF SUITABLE. WE HAVE NOT STUDIED THAT.
IT COULD BE SUITABLE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WE'RE IN A MODE NOW JUST GIVE IT AWAY BECAUSE SOMEBODY ASKED FOR IT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE INVESTIGATE FUTURE PROPERTIES OR EVEN THIS PROPERTY IF WE HAVE
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TIME FOR FUTURE COUNTY USE BEFORE WE PETITION TO VACATE ARIGHT OF WAY. >> IT IS JUST -- SET A PUBLIC
NEXT MEETING WE'LL DECIDE THAT BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE ITEMS AND SEE IF THERE'S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO GIVE IT
>> OR IF IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US NOT TO GIVE IT AWAY.
[12. Approval to set public hearing on Petition to Vacate Right of Way adjacent to Parsonage St. and adoption of Resolution to schedule the public hearing (C. Grimm)]
SO WITH THAT, I MOVE APPROVAL FOR ITEM 12 TO HOLD A PUBLICMEETING. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SETTING OF PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
>> I'LL SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> I KNOW THE COMMISSIONER IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE LIVE LOCAL AND THIS PROPERTY WHICH WE CAN GO INTO FURTHER DETAIL WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE USED UNDER THAT STATUTE FOR MANY REASONS.
AND WITH RESPECT TO THE CELL TOWER AS MANY OF YOU KNOW WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT THAT OUT FOR BID AND IN CONNECTION WITH ANY OTHER INSTANCE THAT WE'VE DONE WITH CELL TOWERS, THEY DON'T LIKE TO DISCLOSE THEIR LEXES AND DON'T LIKE TO AUDIO]. AND YOU WOULD REQUIRE REZONING
FOR ANY OF THAT. >> OKAY. AND DO YOU KNOW THE LAND USE -- ZONING AND THE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL AND ZONING IS
AR 2 WITH A DENSITY OF 1 TO 5. >> ALL RIGHT.
>> MADAME CHAIR, I THE END TO AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER AND I THINK WE'RE IN A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT IS WORKING ON REAL ESTATE ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY NOW ON A FULL TIME BASIS. I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO GET A REPORT FROM OUR INDIVIDUAL TO MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER THERE IS SOME VALUE TO THAT.
IF WE SET THE PUBLIC HEARING WE CAN STILL MAKE THE DETER DETERMINATION. THIS INDICATION IS TO WHAT IF ANYTHING THE PUBLIC IS THINKING ABOUT THAT.
>> RIGHT. MR. CARTER, THE LAND OWNER THAT THE APPLICATION WILL BE PRESENT AS WELL AS THE CHURCH THAT IT
IMPACTS AS WELL. >> OKAY. I WOULD THE END TO AGREE. I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER THAT AND NOT SET A PRECEDENT.
BUT WE NEED AT THIS TIME SO MAKE SENSE -- IT TO MAKE SENSE.
>> ACTUALLY WE'RE SETTING THE PRECEDENT THE OTHER WAY OF NOT
GIVING IT AWAY. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY.
IT'S A TWO WAY STREET. THERE'S A COST BENEFIT.
THE COST TO OWN IT AND THE BENEFIT.
>> THAT'S WHAT I ASKED HEATHER IF SHE COULD GET INVOLVED TOO.
>> MADAME CHAIR, I AM ALSO MORE INTERESTED ALONG THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT RUBRIC THAT YOU DISCUSSED.
IT'S ONE THING TO RUN THE NUMBERS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S TRUE IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION.
I WOULD LIKE SOMETHING MORE FORMAL.
A RUB RICK SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA MOVING FORWARD.
RAP >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE WITH AYE.
>>> NEXT WE HAVE A DISCUSSION UPDATE.
COUNTY MANAGER AND I DISCUSSED JUST WANTING TO HAVE A
[18. 2023 State Appropriations]
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CONVERSATION IN THE SUNSHINE ABOUT OUR 2023 STATE APPROPRIATES SO THE PUBLIC IS CLEAR ON THINGS THAT ARE THERE.>> SOMETIMES IN NEGOTIATIONS THEY TURN THE CLOCK BACK AND
STOP IT. >> I GUESS -- I MISSED IT BY
[22. Public Hearing for the purpose of considering the entry into a Purchase and Sale Agreement for the purchase by the County of real property necessary for the Bonded Transporation Program, more particularly described as a portion of Tax Parcel No. 46-05-26-010214-004-00 and authorization for County Manager to execute all documents necessary to close the acquisition (C. Grimm/E. Dendor))]
FIVE MINUTES. ALL RIGHT.SO 5:00 O'CLOCK TIME CERTAIN WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE ENTRY INTO A PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT BY THE COUNTY OF REAL PROPERTY NECESSARY FOR THE BONDED TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM. MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED AS A PORTION OF PARCELS. THE NUMBER IS ON THE ONLINE AGENDA. AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY MANAGER TO DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO CLOSE THE THE PURCHASE IS NECESSARY TO HARMONIZE THE ROAD FOR IMPROVEMENT ON BOND PROJECT NUMBER THREE.
ANY QUESTIONS? >> ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. HEARING NONE, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? STAY ON TOPIC, MR. OTTO.
SPECIFICALLY ON THE PURCHASE OF THIS PARCEL.
>> ALL OF THIS STUFF SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE YEARS AGO WHEN YOU TRY TO DECIDE WHEN YOU'RE BUYING FOR THIS $129 MILLION LOAN THAT Y'ALL GOT FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY TO PAY FOR.
LAST I HEARD IT WAS 135 MILLION. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THE COUNTY
SHOULD BE PAYING FOR THIS. >> LIKE OTHER FOLKS, YOU'RE JUST PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THIS STUFF. THIS IS 06-08 ALL OVER AGAIN AND YOU'RE SPENDING ALL THIS MONEY WHEN IT SHOULD MR. JUST PUT ON THE BACK BURNER. IT'S NOT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED HERE THEIR ENTIRE LIVES THAT SHOULD BE PAYING THIS FOR 20 YEARS, 25 YEARS. THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE HEARING? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. PWE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> I MOVE APPROVAL. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY AING AYE.
>> OPPOSED. >> MOTION CARRIES 4-0.
[23. Public Hearing for the purpose of considering the entry into a Purchase and Sale Agreement for the purchase by the County of real property necessary for future Public Safety facilities, more particularly described as Tax Parcel No. 16-04-23-000116-000-00 and authorization for County Manager to execute all documents necessary to close the acquisition (A. Chapman)]
NEXT WE HAVE -- THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSIDERING THE ENTRY INTO A PURCHASE AND SALES AGREEMENT FOR THE PURCHASE BY THE COUNTY OF REAL PROPERTY NECESSARY FOR FUTURE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES.THE TAX PARCEL IS LIFTED AND AUTHORIZATION OF THE COUNTY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO CLOSE THE ACQUISITION. AND WE NOW HAVE THE FAMOUS ADAM CHAPMAN.
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ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS?MR. OTTO. >> HE REALED TO DATE OF BIRTH CHAPMAN BY ANY CHANCE. IS THIS WHERE THE BUILDING THAT THEY WANTED TO PUT THAT HUGE MET DAL BUILDING ACROSS FROM THE
THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NONE I'LL CLOSE THE HEARING AND I'LL BRING IT BACK
TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT FOR THIS ITEM.
>> SECOND. >> OKAY MOTION AND SECOND.
>> I WANT TO REITERATE THAT PUBLIC SAFETY WHO CHOSE THIS PARCEL AND THEY IDENTIFIED IT WITH THE ISOMAPS AND THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE WANT TO USE FOR SITE SELECTION AT LEAST WE HAVE IN THE PAST. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK, ADAM.
AND FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY. AND THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE RATES FOR THE PEOPLE THIS MIGHT HELP.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES. >>> NOW YOU'RE UP, CHARLIE.
>> 2023 LEGISLATIVE SESSION CONVENED MARCH 7TH AND -- MAY 5TH AND DURING THAT TIME, THE GOVERNOR PASSED $117 BILLION BUDGET WHICH IS A STATE RECORD AND 1873 BILLS FILED, 356 PASSED. IT WAS ABOUT 19% OF THEM WERE PASSED. YOU'LL RECALL THE PALM CARD THAT YOU AUTHORIZED AND SENT YOUR PRIORITIES TO TALLAHASSEE.
I'M PROUD TO REPORT TO OUR CITIZENS AND CERTAINLY YOU FOLKS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN $8 MILLION OF THE 9 REQUESTED.
ACTUALLY RECEIVED ALL 9 INITIALLY THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE BUT THE GOVERNOR LINE ITEM VETOED TWO SO $8 MILLION FOR APPROPRIATIONS THIS YEAR WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL VENTURE FOR US. A LOT WAS DONE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. YOU CAN SEE OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DID SUBMIT PROP YEGGSS FOR CLAY COUNTY YOUTH, THE SWEAT PROGRAM AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY WAREHOUSE WERE LINE ITEM VETOED BY THE GOVERNOR. AND LAST YEAR, NEXT YEAR ISSAL COOING FAST LEGISLATIVELY. WE'RE GOING TO BE STARTING JANUARY 9TH. CLAY DAY IS PLANNED FOR JANUARY.
HAVEN'T QUITE GOT THE TIME DOWN YET BUT KAREN AND KIMBERLY AND THERESA ARE WORKING ON THAT NOW. HOUSE AND SENATE COMMITTEE M MEETINGS WILL BE HELD SEPTEMBER THROUGH DECEMBER AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND POTENTIAL COLA IMPACT WILL BE THE BIG ITEMS NEXT YEAR COMING BACK. SO WE HAD A GOOD YEAR.
WE HAD A LOT OF FUN THIS YEAR AT CLAY DAY AND LOOK FORWARD TO
ANOTHER GOOD YEAR NEXT YEAR. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHARLIE?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION PROBABLY FOR THE COUNTY MANAGER.
LAST MEETING WE APPROVED A CONTRACT TO EXECUTE THE SWEAT PROGRAM. I NOTICED IT WAS NOT -- IT WAS VETOED BY THE GOVERNOR. FUNDING FOR IT.
SO ARE WE GOING TO CANCEL THE PROGRAM?
>> WE WERE NOT GOING TO CANCEL THE SWEAT PROGRAM.
NO, SIR. WE HAVE OTHER ALTERNATIVES THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND OTHER AGENCIES TO HELP US OUT IN THAT
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MENTORING TYPE OF PART OF THE PROGRAM.AGAIN, WE ARE WORKING CLOSE HAND IN HAND WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND EXECUTING THAT. AND TO PIVOT TO ANOTHER AGENCY
TO HELP US OUT WITH THIS. >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAD $168,000 LEFT OVER FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR AND SO BY UTILIZING SOME FOLKS FOR TUTORING AS OPPOSED TO THE SWEAT PROGRAM WE CAN ACTUALLY PAY FOR SWEAT WITH 168,000 AND IT WILL GET US TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN APPLY AGAIN FOR NEW
APPROPRIATIONS. >> SO HAS THE COUNTY MANAGER INDICATED WE'LL TAKE THE MONEY FROM PREVIOUS FOR THE PAYMENT OF THE OFFICERS AND THAT SIDE OF IT AND THEN WE'VE MET WITH TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS AND FIRMS THAT DO MENTORING SERVICE.
THE PROGRAM IS JUST GOING TO LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT BUT WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THOSE SERVICES AVAILABLE.
>> THANK YOU. >> ANYTHING ELSE?
>> IS IT -- I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
IS IT LONG TERM SUSTAINABLE? SO IF WE PRESENT THIS FOR THE LEGISLATURE AGAIN NEXT YEAR AND THE GOVERNOR DECIDES TO LINE ITEM VETO IT AGAIN, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO FUND PERPETUALLY WITHOUT THE STATE'S ASSISTANCE?
>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE A DECISION FOR THE FIVE OF YOU UP THERE OF WHETHER THIS WOULD BE A PRIORITY.
FUTURE FUNDING. IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT -- BECAUSE THE MAIN FUNDING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS THAT OFFICER WHO HAS TO BE OUT THERE WITH THE YOUTH TO SUPERVISE THEM IN THEIR CLEAN UP OR WORKING AT THE LIBRARY OR THE ANIMAL SHELTER OR WHEREVER THEY HAVE THEM PERFORMING THEIR HOURS.
>> I ALSO HAD A CONVERSATION DURING MY BUDGET DISCUSSION WITH MS. GREEN THE CLERK OF COURT WE HAD A CONVERSATION.
SO THEY HAVE A FUND IN THE CLERK'S BUDGET THAT FREQUENTLY THEY HAVE EXTRA MONEY IN. ONE OF THE THINGS I -- IT WAS BEFORE THIS GOT VETOED THAT I HAD THE CONVERSATION, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TALKED TO HER ABOUT WAS AT THE REGIONAL COUNCIL WE HEARD SOME PRESENTATIONS FROM I THINK IT'S CITY OF JACKSONVILLE AND CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE ARE DOING SOME INTERESTING THINGS LIKE HOMELESS COURT LIKE VETERANS COURT KIND OF SO NOT JUST A NO TRESPASS OF A HOMELESS PERSON BUT HELP THEM GET RESOURCES WITH COUNSELING AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND THEN THEY CAN WAIVE THE FINES LIKE IF THEY VANDALIZE PROPERTY OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT. THE CHIEF JUDGE WAS ACTUALLY VERY INTERESTED IN THAT AND KIND OF LIKE A DRUG COURT, VETERANS COURT. SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK SHE ALSO SEES THE VALUE IN TEAM COURT AND THE SWEAT PROGRAM. SHE WAS SAYING THERE ARE OTHER WAYS THAT THEY HAVE FUNDS THAT THEY HAVE TO USE FOR THAT SORT OF PROGRAM AND SO THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THERE AS WELL.
>> MADAME CHAIR, IF ALSO. >> WE'VE LEARNED WE DON'T VICE PRESIDENT TO BE THERE MANAGING THAT FUNDING AND WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD WAY TO GO WITH AND OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE IT SET UP ABTEED UP FOR YOU ALL JUST YET BUT WE WILL AND OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE ONE OF MANY. WE CAN ALSO HAVE THAT AND TALK ABOUT THE APPROPRIATIONS AND WHAT'S COMING UP FOR NEXT YEAR.
AGAIN, THIS WILL BE UP THERE IN OUR REQUEST AND ASK ALONG WITH OTHERS AS WE PREPARE AND WE'LL PREPARE QUICKLY.
I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO CHARLIE ABOUT THIS TO GET US FORMS READY. TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE YOUR DIRECTION OF THE
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WE ORIGINALLY HAD A MUCH LOWER ASK AND SO WE RAISED IT AND GOT IT AND THAT SHOWS US THAT WE NEED TO BE PREPARED AND IT KIND OF SHOWED ME TOO THAT THEY LIKE DIVERSE IF I OCCASION ON OUR ASK ASKS AND YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT WILL RESONATE SO I GUESS BE THINKING ABOUT YOUR REQUESTS FOR NEXT YEAR.AND WHAT WE WANT TO ASK FOR. AND BECAUSE WE -- I KNOW THIS IS NOT EXACTLY TIED TO THIS BUT IT KIND OF IS, BECAUSE WE GOT THE AUDIT AND WE'RE SUBMITTING THE AUDIT SO YOU HAVE THAT, ARE WE STILL ON TRACK FOR OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP?
WE'RE STILL ON TARGET FOR OUR WORKSHOP IN EARLY JULY AND THEN
JULY 11TH. >> WE'LL BE PREPARED TO BRING THE FIRST BLUSH OF THE BUDGET. I THINK THIS WILL TIE IN.
WE'LL COME BACK TO THE BOARD ON THE OPOID FACILITY.
WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT AS STAFFING.
WE'LL BE PRESENTING THAT VERY SOON.
>> OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU BOTH.
AND THANK YOU CHARLIE. ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO COMMENT ON?
>> GREAT YEAR FOR CLAY COUNTY. IT DOESN'T HURT THAT WE HAD A $117 BILLION YEAR. I MEAN, HATS OFF TO ALL OF THE FACTORS THAT MADE THAT TRUE.
[19. Bid No. 22/23-22, Gate and Security System Upgrades at Clay County Emergency Operations Center (K. Smith)]
WE HAVE A BID 2023-22 FOR A GATE SECURITY UPDATE AT THE EOC.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. YES THIS IS TO AWARD THE BID TO MILLER ELECTRIC IN THE AMOUNT OF 13515648.
WE ONLY RECEIVED ONE BID SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS COMING UNDER NEW BUSINESS. WE HAD A PREBID MEETING WITH THREE VENDORS THAT SHOWED UP AND ONLY RECEIVED ONE BID.
THIS IS FOR THE REAR GATE AT THE EOC.
SO AS YOU NO THEY STORE EQUIPMENT -- KNOW, THEY STORE EQUIPMENT. THAT'S WHERE LOADING HAPPENS FOR THE EOC, MOBILE OPS UNIT. THE GATES NEEDED SOME UPDATING FOR A WHILE NOW SO THIS WILL BE REPAIR UPGRADING TO THE ACCESS
CONTROL TO THE CAMERA SYSTEM. >> AND THIS IS PAID FOR OUT OF
ARPA FUNDING. >> WE HAVE DIRECTOR LADD HERE THIS AFTERNOON FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
>> I THINK IT'S MORE THAN THE GATE UP IS IT NOT?
>> RIGHT. IT'S ACCESS CONTROL CAMERA UPGRADE. S BOTH EM AND MIS HELPED WORK ON THE TECHES AND REVIEWED THIS ONE FOR SUBMITTAL AND WE'RE
HAPPY WITH IT. >> THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY FOR A
GATE. >> THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT. IT'S MORE THAN JUST A GATE.
THANK YOU. >> I'M EXCITED THAT MILLER BID ON IT. IT'S A SHAME THAT OTHER PEOPLE DIDN'T. BUT IF YOU REMEMBER BACK I GUESS IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO NOW WHEN WE DID THE BROADBAND RFP MILLER WAS A SUBCONTRACTOR ON ONE OF THE BIDDERS.
THEY HAVE SOME INNOVATIVE STUFF. THEY WERE NOT QUITE READY FOR THE BROADBAND PROJECT FOR THE RURAL AREAS BUT I'M SURE THE COMMISSIONER, IF THANK YOU MEET WITH TROY OR KAREN YOU CAN GO BACK AND READ THAT THEY HAVE THE COPIES OF THOSE AND GO BACK AND READ THOSE PROPOSALS. THEY HAVE SOME INNOVATIVE THINGS COMING. THEY'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH SMART NORTH FLORIDA AND THROUGH THE TPO.
SO I THINK THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT COULD COME FROM THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTINA BECAUSE THEY'RE PUTTING THIS IN THAT THEIR SYSTEMS WILL WORK. AND I AM NOT DOING IT ANY
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JUSTICE BECAUSE I AM NOT A TECH KEY BUT THEY CAN BASICALLYCREATE THEIR OWN SMALL NETWORK. >> THEY'RE WORKING BIG COURTHOUSE PROJECT.
ANY OTHER QUACKSS OR COMMENTS? -- QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
>> I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I'LL MOVE APPROVAL FOR THE
CONTRACT OF MILLER ELECTRIC. >> SECOND.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
>> OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES 4-0.
[20. Bid No. 22/23-28, Green Cove Springs Library Plumbing Repairs (K. Smith)]
>>> BID NUMBER 2223-28. GREEN COVE SPRINGS LIBRARY PULMONARYING REPAIRS. THAT NEVER SOUNDS FUN.
>> THIS IS PLUMBING REPAIRS TO THE MAIN SEWER LINE.
THE LIBRARY IS ONE OF OUR OLDER FACILITIES AS WELL AS THIS SEWER LINE. ACTUALLY HAD TWO PREBID MEETINGS TO TRY TO BRING INTEREST IN THIS PROJECT BUT ONLY DID RECEIVE THE ONE BID. ER ROOTER INC.
THEY WORK FOR THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE SO WE REFERENCE CHECKED ON THEM AND ARE PLEASED WITH FEEDBACK WE GOT.
SO LOOK FARED TO GETTING THIS PROJECT STARTED AND FINISHED.
>> YEAH. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS?
>> I JUST HAVE A COMMENT. I GET REAL CONCERNED WHEN WE ONLY GET ONE BIDDER. IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, THEY HAVE PLUMBING ISSUES AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF -- I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ONLY GET ONE BIDDER ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS.
IT'S NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT PROJECT.
FAIRLY ROBUST $46,000. IT'S NOT A HUGE PROJECT EITHER.
BUT TO GET ONE BIDDER, I JUST -- >> WE SENT IT OUT THROUGH OUR OPEN GOV SO AT LEAST 768 SUPPLY PERS SAW THE BID, 15 DOWNLOADED IT AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S DEMAND, WE CAN MAKE PHONE CALLS BUT WE OFFERED THE SECOND PREBID AND TRIED TO CALL AND GET SOME INTEREST BUT -- I HAD A KITCHEN SINK REPLACED AND HAD TO MAKE A LOT OF FOB CALLS AND FINALLY FOUND ONE OUT OF ORANGE PARK THAT WAS WILLING
AN DOTALLY YOU -- ANECDOTALLY YOU HEAR ABOUT THAT.
>> WE KNOW IT WAS A WIG PROJECT. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY PLEASED WITH THE PRICE BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF WORK.
AND THEY HAD GOOD REFERENCES FROM THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE SO
THAT'S A GOOD THING. >> I MOVE APPROVAL OF CONTRACT
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND.
>> OKAY. MOTHS AND SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION?
>> IF I COULD JUST AND I KNOW TREY PROBABLY HAS THIS SCOPED OUT SOMEWHERE AT SOME POINT BUT I THINK THE -- WHEN SHE SAID THAT ONE OF OUR OLDER FACILITIES AND TAKES A LOT OF MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP OBVIOUSLY WEAVER GOT TO LOOK DOWN THE ROAD AT SOME POINT TO DOING SOMETHIG WITH THAT BUILDING ANDNA SILTY AND I HOPE THAT'S IN OUR THREE TO FIVE YEAR PLAN BECAUSE IT FIRST ALL NEEDS IT BUT SECOND OF ALL, WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THAT.
MUNICIPAL SITE THAT WAS GIVEN TO US.
>> YEAH. >> BUT THAT WAS PART OF --
>> SARATOGA SPRINGS. IT WILL BE SOMETIME BEFORE THEY BUILD THAT ROAD TO ENABLE US TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE SITE.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO MAYBE LOOK AT IT SOME OTHER WAY OF HANDLING THAT BUT AT LEAST IN TERMS OF THOUGHT OBVIOUSLY THOUGHTS HAVE BEEN TAKING PLACE. WE JUST NEED TO HEAR MORE OF THEM AND MOVE FORWARD. BUT WE'VE GOT TO MAINTAIN THE
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MILLING IN THE MEANTIME.-- THE BUILDING IN THE MEANTIME.
SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH MAKING SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS
AS WELL. >> AND I WILL SAY THAT'S WHAT ADAMS IS WORKING ON A LOT SINCE HE'S BEEN HERE.
SO MORE TO COME ON THAT. IT'S THE TASK WE'VE GIVEN HIM.
>> MOTION AND SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION?
>> OPPOSED? >> MOTION CARRIES.
[21. Bid No. 22/23-55 Island Forest Park Basketball Court (K. Smith)]
>>> ITEM 21. BID NUMBER 2223-55.
ISLAND FOREST PARK BASKETBALL COURT.
>> ONCE AGAIN WE ONLY RECEIVED ONE BID FROM COURT SURFACES.
YOU PROBABLY RECOGNIZE THEIR NAME.
THEY DO A LOT OF BUSINESS FOR US.
THEY KIND OF ARE THE PROS IN THIS TYPE THING.
RESURFACING TENNIS COURTS, BASKETBALL COURTS.
THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THEY BID ON IT $88,480 TO
DEMO AND REBUILD THE COURT. >> THEY DID OUR PICKLE BALL COURTS AT WE BARNES AND TWIN LAKES PARK.
>> THEY HELD A LOT OF CONTRACTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
THEY'RE THE BIG SHOW THAT DOES THIS TYPE WORK.
WASN'T EXPECTING A LOT OF COMPETITION.
>> I KNOW THAT PRIVATE RESIDENT WAS TRYING TO BUILD A PICKLE BALL COURT IN THEIR HOUSE NOT MANY MY DISTRICT AND ACTUALLY IN COMMISSIONER BURKES' DISTRICT AND THEY REACHED OUT TO JUSTIN TO GET CONTACT INFORMATION FOR COURT SURFACES BECAUSE THERE'S JUST NO ONE WHO DOES THAT TYPE OF WORK.
>> I THINK THE BID CAME BACK ALL RIGHT.H.- I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR QUESTIONS.
>> MOTION AND SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
>> JUST I WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT AND WE'VE HAD SINGLE BIDDERS AND IT COULD BE WORKFORCE.
IT COULD BE WORKFORCE RELATED. AN I JUST ATTENDED THE WORK SOURCE BOARD MEETING YESTERDAY AND I THINK OUR UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS 2.3%. THAT IS SO LOW AND IN THE WHOLE STATE OF FLORIDA IT'S VERY LOW. BELOW NORMAL.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THE WORKERS WENT.
BUT THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE WORKING RIHT NOW.
SO EVERYBODY WANTS A JOB HAS A JOB BASICALLY.
SO IT'S PART OF THE THING WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH RIGHT NOW.
WORKFORCE SHORTAGES. >> ALL RIGHT.
>> THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES 4-0.
[24. Bid Opening Tabulations (K. Smith)]
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF BID OPENING TABULATIONS FOR THINGS WE'VE[PUBLIC COMMENTS]
ALREADY DISCUSSED. WE'RE NOW AT OR SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME UP, MR. OTTO.I EMAILED A FEW OF THE COMMISSIONERS ON THE FALSE ARREST IN MARION COUNTY. JEFF GOLD.
COMMISSIONER RESIGNED. THAT WAS THE ONE THAT FALSELY ARRESTED ME FOR MY GUN AND THREATS ON THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER WHICH WERE TOTALLY NOT TRUE.
COMMISSIONER CURRY SAID HE LOVES HIM AT THE LAST MEETING.
I DON'T KNOW HOW. BUT IT'S BEEN A FUN YEAR LIKE YOU SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE. CLAY WEEK WAS GREAT.
I WAS THERE DURING THAT. I AGREE WITH WHAT THEY SAID.
VOTERS IF YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THE ROADS EMAIL MIKE BECAUSE THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS DID NOT MAKE THIS MESS.
>> LET'S REFRAIN FROM THE PERSONAL ATTACKS MR. OTTO OR I
WILL CUT YOU OFF. >> THE DOLLAR PERKS FOR A YEAR? I WAS HERE AT THE MEETINGS WHEN THEY SAID THE FOOTBALL PLAYERS KEPT THE PARKS THE WORST AS FAR AS NOT CLEANING THEM UP.
HAVE WE FIXEDED THAT PROBLEM OF JUST GIVING IT AWAY?
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YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT GIVING THINGS AWAY.THE ADULT OPPORTUNITIES I DEFINITELY WANT TO SPEAK TO Y'ALL MAYBE KIMBERLY ABOUT THE ADULT ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY.
Y'ALL WERE TALKING EARLIER. AND THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS COUNTY IS NOT COMPATIBLE TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIS COUNTY.
IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE TO DO WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN THE NORTH IN THE SOUTH. IT'S JUST NOT COMPATIBLE AT ALL.
THE PRICES WILL GO DOWN THIS IS 06-08 AGAIN.
WE DON'T NEED TO PUSH EVERYTHING IN HIGH DOLLAR WHEN WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO COME BACK DOWN. THE SHERIFF COOK AGAIN GREAT COMMENTS AT THE LAST MEETING. AWESOME.
IT'S ABOUT THE TRAGEDY OF THE -- THAT MADE THAT MESS.
AND THEN THE COUNTY RAN OFF THE BIDDERS.
I HOPE TRUMP WINS BECAUSE THE OTHER SIDE IS A MESS, MAN.
NOT STANDING UP FOR OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT OF A SPEEDY TRIAL. I MEAN WHAT A MESS THEY'VE MADE IN FLORIDA FOR US.
AS FAR AS THE HOMELESS LET'S LOOK AT THE CARES ACT MONEY THAT WAS SPENT AND WHERE THAT WENT. AND HOW WE HELPED THE PEOPLE THAT WENT TO HOMELESSNESS OVER THIS.
SO I GUESS MY TIME IS UP BUT I APPRECIATE POOH AS OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONER. YOU ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB COMPARED TO THE ONES IN THE PAST.
>> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.
I GOT A CARD FOR YOU. >> THAT'S FINE.
WE'LL GET IT FROM YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
>> ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE WILL COME TO
[COUNTY ATTORNEY]
COMMISSIONER AUDITOR.>> NOTHING. >> COUNTY ATTORNEY.
>> YES. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IN CONNECTION WITH THE BONDED TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM WE WILL BE BRINGING TO YOU NEXT MONTH A REQUEST TO MOVE FORWARD WITH EMINENT DOMAIN PROCEEDINGS IN CONNECTION WITH PROPERTIES ALONG DIFFERENT PROJECTS. SO IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD AND FILE TEXASES WE NEED YOU TO AUTHORIZATION RESOLUTIONS.
THEY WILL BE COMING TO YOU. >> THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO JUST
WOULDN'T COME TO AN AGREEMENT? >> RIGHT.
>> THERE'S DISAGREEMENTS OVER THE ACTUAL DAMAGES TO THE
>> WE'RE GOING TO START WITH A PROJECT RESOLUTION FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT FEMALES. AND THEN NEXT I THINK WE HAVE TWO PARCELS FOR SURE BUT THERE WILL BE MORE.
>> I'LL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU ABOUT IT.
WHEN WE'RE DONE. >> ALL RIGHT.
[COUNTY MANAGER]
COUNTY ATTORNEY.>> ALL RIGHT. >> COUNTY MANAGER.
>> JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS. FIRST ONE WE'VE BEEN IN COMS WITH DEO ABOUT A FLORIDA JOB GROWTH GRANT APPLICATION THAT WE MOVED FORWARD ON BACK IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR FOR PROJECT GATOR.
THAT'S SPECIFICALLY IKO AND THE SHINGLES PLANT THAT THEY'LL BE PUTTING IN ABOUT APPROXIMATELY $275 MILLION CAPITAL INVESTMENT.
THE REQUEST IN THE GROWTH GRANT WAS 4.75 MILLION FOR ENGINEERING CONSTRUCTION AND CI FOR COUNTY ROAD 218.
THIS INCLUDES THE TURN LANES AND THE ROAD INTO THE PARCEL THERE.
THAT WOULD ALSO BENEFIT OTHER PARCELS ALONG THE LINE.
I THINK THE BIG PEST VISION FOR THAT AREA IS THE RAIL HEAD AND INDUSTRIAL FOOTPRINT WITHIN THAT AREA OF THE COUNTY.
THE DO IN GAUCHE ATEING AND TALK, THEIR GRANTS DEPARTMENT HAS ASKED IF THE COUNTY CAN PROVIDE A LOCAL MATCH.
IF LAND WERE DONATED THAT DONATED VALUE WOULD ALSO BE TAKEN OFF OF THAT 25%. I'M JUST BRINGING IT TO THE BOARD TODAY NOT NECESSARILY FOR A VOTE BUT JUST CONSENSUS TO KIND OF MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT IF THAT WAS THE RIGHT ANSWER BACK TO DEO IF YOU FELT THAT WAY OR WE COULD GO BACK WITH
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SOMETHING DIFFERENT.Y'ALL FELT ABOUT THAT. >> OKAY.
>> I HAVE -- DO WE HAVE ANY ESTABLISHED POLICY FOR SUCH A REQUEST?
OR IS THIS -- >> HISTORICALLY, AUDIO] NO. NO, SIR.
I MEAN OUR BIGGEST AND MOST RECENT WAS NIAGARA.
SO THIS WOULD BE KIND OF A SECOND ONE.
MAYBE I'M WRONG. WHAT DID YOU THINK? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FROM A GRANT PERSPECTIVE?
>> WELL, FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE.
>> OKAY. >> BECAUSE GENERALLY GRANTS THIS IS KIND OF A DIFFERENT APPROACH THAT THEY'RE ASKING US AFTER THE FACT. NORMALLY GRANTS HAVE AN ESTABLISHED 75-25-50/50 SOME ESTABLISHED MATCHING AND I THINK IN THIS CASE WE'RE JUST BEING ASKED WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO DO AS PART OF THE PROCESS. SO IF YOU'RE TALKING GRANTS IN
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TYPE. >> I WOULD DEFER THAT FOR
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. >> THE GRANT APPLICATION ITSELF THE NOTICE DID NOT REQUIRE MATCHING FUNDS.
IT'S JUST NOW THAT WE'VE GONE TO THIS NEGOTIATION PHASE AND I THINK THEY'RE SERIOUSLY LOOKING AT THE PROJECT, CONSIDERING ISSUING A GRANT AGREEMENT. SO COME BACK AND ASKED IF ANY LOCAL FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE TO COMMIT TO THE PROJECT.
I THINK THAT WOULD HELP SMOOTH THE PROCESS IF WE HAVE THAT
I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE. I'M CURIOUS SINCE WE KNOW BASED ON WHAT -- THERE'S TYPICALLY A STANDARD SET AT THE BEGINNING.
75-25. IS THAT USUALLY THE BREAKDOWN THERE OR DOES IT VARY BY GRANT? IT'S ALL OVER --
>> WE THEN BEING ASKED IF THERE ARE FUNDS ALLOCATED TO IT THAT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SET OUR OWN -- OKAY.
>> IT DOES VARY BY OPPORTUNITY. GENERALLY SPEAKING FUNDERS DO LIKE TO SEE LOCAL BUY IN AND SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT.
>> DO WE USE THE MOBILITY FEE CREDITS WE GAVE THEM AS THE
>> NO. I DON'T BELIEVE WE COULD.
WE WERE LOOKING AT A CIP OPTION FOR FUNDING.
THE MATCH. >> I THINK THE MAIN THING WAS -- IT WAS NOT LISTED ON THAT. WE COULD AT A LATER DATE PUT THAT ROAD ON THE LIST BUT THE MAIN THING --
>> 218 IS. >> NOT THAT PORTION.
>> AND WE ALSO MANY INTEREST MONEY IN THE ARPA FROM THE
>> INVESTED CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> THAT WE WERE NOT ANTICIPATING.
>> RIGHT. WE'VE DONE BETTER AS THE CLERK'S OFFICE POINTED OUT LAST TIME WITH OUR INVESTMENTS.
I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY THAT WE WOULD NEED TO REARRANGE OUR PRIORITIES AS IT RELATES TO ARPA.
DID YOU JUST SAY WE WOULD HAVE TO DO DIFFERENT PROJECTS OR NOT
DO CERTAIN ONES? >> IF WE USED ARPA MONEY.
USE SALES TAX DOLLARS, WE HAVE DIFFERENT STREAMS OF MONEY.
>> THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING THAT IS BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING THAT EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE INTEREST THAT HAS ACCRUED BETTER THAN WE WERE EXPECTING THAT WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO SHIFT FROM PROJECTS CURRENTLY BEING CONSIDERED IN ORDER TO DO THIS.
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IF WE WERE TO PULL FROM ARPA. >> NO MATTER WHAT FUNDING STREAM YOU PULL FROM, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REPRIORITIZE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A CIP PLAN THAT DID NOT ANTICIPATE THIS PROJECT.
IF YOU'RE WITH ARPA, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A MILLION DOLLARS
IN INTEREST. >> I THOUGHT IT WAS ABOUT
SO YOU'RE NOT GOING HAVE THE FULL 1.12 MILLION.
SO NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT YOUR
PRIORITIES. >> THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO BECAUSE OF NOT HAVING BIDDERS LIKE WITH SOME OF THE SRPA STUFF SOME OF THE AWARDEES OF THE GRANTS MAY NOT -- I MEAN I KNOW I TALKED TO SEVERAL OF THEM THAT THEY'RE JUST -- IT JUST DIDN'T COME TO FRUITION WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE GAVE THEM. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF VARIABES THAT WE'RE WORKING OUT AND WE'RE CONSTANTLY WORKING AT ARPA AND MAKING SURE TO GET PROJECTS DONE.
PUBLIC WORKS IS WORKING HARD ON GETTING THOSE PROGENTLEMENS DONE. BT THAT REQUIRES # MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF CRITHS GOING OUT.
SGLING THAT THIS IS NOT JUST FOR IKO.
THIS IS FOR FUTURE. >> THAT'S MY CONCERN.
I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTH WHILE TO LOOK AT PROCESS AND WHAT WENT INTO THIS DECISION. A DECISION 75/25, WHERE DID THAT COME FROM. YOU KNOW.
MAYBE IT'S LEGITIMATE AND MAYBE NOT.
>> WHAT WAS THE ATLANTA STRIVE? >> 50/50.
>> AND IT WAS NOT JUST FOR NIGH I CAN'T GO GRAS.
IT WAS FOR ATLANTA >> PRIOR TO NIAGARA EVEN BEEN A THOUGHT IN ANYONE'S MIND. IT WAS JUST TO OPEN UP THAT INDUSTRIAL PARK TO WHOEVER MIGHT BE AVAILABLE TO TAKE THE SPOT AND NIAGARA HAPPENED TO BE IT BUT THAT TOOK A LONG TIME TO PUT INTO PLACE AND THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE OF TALKING ABOUT ARPA IN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IF WE'RE WAITING ON DEO AND WHEN THEY FINALLY GET DONE AND WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE THE
>> ONE THING IF I MAY JUST TO CLARIFY BECAUSE I WANT TO BE SURE WE'RE TALKING. THIS PROJECT IS VERY SIMILAR TO AT LAND TIS DRIVE. YOU ALLUDED TO IT BEING AN ECONOMIC INCENTIVE. THIS IS NOT.
THIS IS FOR THE COUNTY TO BUILD A COUNTY CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, A COUNTY ROAD IF WE REEFED THE DEO BRAND -- RECEIVED
THE DEO BRAND. >> WE LIKE ATLANTIS BECAUSE ROAD INTO THAT INDUSTRIAL PARK VERY SIMILAR TO ATLANTIS.
>> AND WE HAVE ALSO TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT -- I'M ALL FOR USING DEO MONEY TO LEVERAGE OUR MONEYS BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT SEWER AND WATER IS A BIG TICKET ITEM TO GET INTO THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL AND THAT'S ONE REASON IKO CAN GO IN THERE.
HAVE DEMANDS IN A WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM.
OTHER PLANTS MAY NOT FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO BE IN THAT SITUATION. IN TERMS OF HOW WE GET THAT WATER AND SEWER TO THAT PROPERTY IF WE HOPE TO DEVELOP IT AS AN
INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY. >> NOT EVERY COMPANY IS GOING TO BE LIKE NIAGARA AND FOOT THE BILL WHICH IS SOMETHING THEY STRESSED THAT EVEN THOUGH OUR UTILITIES DID NOT EXTEND TO THAT PROPERTY THEY WERE WILLING BUT NOT EVERYONE IS GOING -- NOT
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EVERY COMPANY IS GOING TO MAKE THAT INVESTMENT.>> AND I WILL SAY THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION BY THE EDC.
I MEAN, SOME OF THE COMPANIES THEY'VE BEEN GOING AT ARE COMPANIES LIKE IKO WHO ARE NOT NECESSARILY HEAVY USERS.
SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS OF AN ISSUE TODAY.
>> WE AS A BOARD HAVE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION.
I THINK IT'S WORTH WHILE TO PURSUE UNDER THE MATCH THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING 75-25. THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO BE AWARE THAT IF IT COMES BACK AND WE GET THE BID THAT WE'LL NEED TO MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHERE THOSE MONEYS ARE COMING FROM AND THOSE PROJECTS ARE THOSE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL PROJECTS THAT ARE SITTING THERE AND WHERE THAT MONEY IS GOING TO BE DIVERTED FROM. AND THERE COULD BE WAYS OF BEING ABLE TO DO THAT BY JUST PUSHING SOME PROJECTS BACK INTO A NEW FISCAL YEAR AND BE ABLE TO DO IT THAT WAY AS WELL.
>> OKAY. I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR --
>> CONSENSUS. IS THERE CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A POTENTIAL 75/25% MATCH?
OBVIOUSLY WE'LL COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND LET YOU KNOW HOW THE NEGOTIATION GOES ON THAT.
SECOND ITEM I CAME TO Y'ALL LAST BOARD MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THE ROAD NAMING FOR THE GUN RANGE. HAVE THESE CHOICES.
I WOULD LIKE TO JUST PROPOSE THAT IF ANYBODY OUT DOCTOR WITHIN THE COMMUNITY HAS AN IDEA FOR THIS NAME, WE WILL -- YOU'LL HAVE UNTIL JULY 5TH AND REALLY THROUGH HERE THE JULY 4G9 WEEKEND. AT THE CLOSE OF BUSINESS THE CHOICES OUT THERE. WE WOULD DO IT VIA SURVEY MONKEY BECAUSE I ASKED HOW DO YOU LIMIT PEOPLE'S VOTES THAT WAY.
I'M SURE YOU'LL BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT WHETHER IT'S THROUGH I IP.
>> I WANT TO ASSURE WE KEEP GOING.
THEY'RE PAYING THE PRICE FOR GOING.
BUT IF THAT PLEASES THE BOARD THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT WE WILL GO INTO SO AGAIN FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THROUGH THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT WE'LL PUT IT OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
HAVE YOU UNTIL JULY 5TH TO PUT NAMES IN AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE IT AND THEN PUT IT OUT FOR VOTE AND THEN BASICALLY YOU HAVE ABOUT THREE WEEKS OF VOTING AT PLAY THERE.
AND THEN IT WILL BE CLOSED PROBABLY PRIOR TO THE BOARD AND THEY CAN TALLY IT UP AND BRING IT TO THE BOARD.
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>> I REALLY WANT TO STRESS TO THE FOLKS WITH OUR FIRE LEADERSHIP IN THE BOARD ROOM HERE TO PLEASE LET THE FIRE WORKS BE HANDLED, SET OFF BY PROFESSIONALS.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF THESE FIRE WORK PLACES THROUGHOUT.
I WAS ALWAYS TAUGHT AND MY FAMILY WE JUST LET IT -- THE PROFESSIONALS HANDLE IT. IT'S A LOT SAFER.
I'M SURE -- WHEN WE TALK THERE WILL PROBABLY BE AT LEAST ONE CAR BADGE -- GARBAGE CAN FIRE WITHIN THE COUNTY.
PLEASE BE SAFE OUT THERE AND CELEBRATING OUR INDEPENDENCE DAY. AND JUST WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY
A HAPPY SAFE 4TH OF JULY. >> I THINK THE CHIEF TOLD US LAST YEAR THAT ONLY ON THE 4TH IS IT LEGAL TO SET THEM OFF WHICH IS A REMINDER THAT IT'S NOT -- IT'S A TUESDAY.
AND THE COUNTY OFFICES ARE OPEN ON MONDAY THE 3RD.
[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]
>> COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. ANYBODY WANT TO GO FIRST?
>> JUST REAL QUICK, FOLLOWING ALONG WITH JULY 4TH.
247TH ANNIVERSARY OF OUR SIGNING OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE SO I WANT EVERYBODY TO ENJOY IT.
AND CELEBRATE IT FOR WHAT IT IS. IT'S A GREAT COUNTRY AND PEOPLE WANT TO MODIFY THE CONSTITUTION AND CHANGE IT I THINK YOU'RE BARKING UP THE WRONG TREE. ANYWAY.
>> I ALSO WANT TO JUST THANK DEAN FOR ASSERTIONS MADE BEFORE I AGREE 100% THAT FREEDOM ISN'T FREE.
THAT WE NEED TO APPRECIATE FULLY THE SOUTHBOUNDING RAY IDENTIFICATIONS MADE -- SACRIFICES MADE IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO CELEBRATE. IT'S NOT ABOUT THE FIREWORKS AND THE FOOD. ONE OF MY FAVORITE QUOTES IS THAT THE FLAG DOES NOT WAVE BY THE WIND BUT BY THE LAST BREATH OF THE SOLDIER WHO DIED IN PRESERVING AND DEFENDING IT.
AND I HAVE A SPECIAL LOVE FOR OUR COUNTRY.
I KNOW WHAT MY PARENTS LEFT BEHIND IN HAITI TO CHASE THE AMERICAN DREAM AND INDEPENDENCE DAY IS UP THERE AS ONE OF MY FAVORITE HOLIDAYS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT LIFE COULD HAVE BEEN VERY DIFFERENT FOR ME HAD MY PARENTS NOT SEEN HOPE HERE IN AMERICA.
AND I AGREE. IF WE'RE LOOKING AT REWRITING THE CONSTITUTION OR MAKING AMENDMENTS TO IT THEY'RE BARKING UP THE WRONG TREE. AMERICA IS AN MAIZING COUNTRY AND THERE'S NOWHERE LIKE IT. I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN.
>> THAT'S IT. >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER.
>> THANK YOU. LET'S HAVE A LITTLE HISTORY LESSON FOR THE MAN IN THE PINK SHIRT.
I TRY TO IGNORE HIM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE HIS BAH PHONEERY IS OFF THE CHARTS. HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND AND HELP OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T KEEP UP WITH WHAT IS REAL AND WHAT IS FANTASY IN HIS OWN MIND. AND SINCE HE PICKED ON ME EARLIER I FEEL I HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO DEFEND MYSELF.
2008, 2009, THERE WAS A MORATORIUM FOR IMPACT FEES IN THE COUNTY ENACTED AND THEN RETRACTED WHEN IT WAS PUT ON A MORORIAL SO THEY PASSED IMPACT FEES, THEN A MORATORIUM AND THEN THEY RETURNED ALL THE MONEYS COLLECTED FROM THOSE DEVELOPERS THAT PAID THEM. LET'S FAST FORWARD TO 2016.
I GET ELECTED. 2017 THE SPRING OF THAT YEAR WE IMPLEMENTED IMPACT FEES OVER THE OBJECTIONS OF THE BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS IN THE CAN YOU WANTY. I WAS A STRONG MOVER IN THAT PARTICULAR -- LEGISLATION IN TERMS OF VOTING FOR IT AND MAKING SURE TO TALK IN FAVOR OF IT. AND THOSE ARE NOW MOBILITY FEES.
WE THEN IN 2022 ENACTED MOBILITY FEES WHICH THEN JUNE 1ST BECAME ACTIVE -- NEW IMPACT FEES I SHOULD SAY AND THEY BECAME ACTIVE. SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS, YEAH, YOU CAN SEND ME YOUR EMAILS IF YOU WANT.
I HAVE BROAD SHOULDERS. GLAD TO TAKE CRITICISM THAT YOU MAY WANT TO OFFER. BUT THOSE DEVELOPMENTS 90% OF THEM WERE ENACTED IN 2006 IN THE LAST BIG RUN UP OF REAL ESTATE AND SO KENTLY, I DON'T LIKE TO POINT FINGERS AT PREVIOUS
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BOARDS. THEY MAY HAVE UNDERSTOOD SOMETHING WE DON'T UNDERSTAND NOW BECAUSE WE LOOK AT THINGS DIFFERENTLY IN HINDSIGHT TO 2020.BUT WE PICKED THE CAN UP OFF THE ROAD THAT WAS KICKED DOWN THE ROAD BY MANY OTHER BOARDS FOR WHATEVER REASON.
AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE GOT A SITUATION IN THE SAND RIDGE AREA AND LIKE ASBURY THAT WE'RE BUILDING NEW ROADS IS BECAUSE THIS BOARD AND SOME -- I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY WAS ON THAT BOARD BUT OTHER THAN ME, TOOK THE BOLD STEP OF BORROWING MONEY WHICH EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM DOES WHETHER FOR CARS OR HOUSES OR
WHATEVER PURCHASES. >> THERE'S A BUILDING ON HIGHWAY 17. IT'S A GYMNASTICS GYM CURRENTLY.
IT WILL BE EMPTY SOON BECAUSE THE CURRENT OWNER IS BUILDING PROPERTY FURTHER UP. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S QUALIFIED ENOUGH TO BE A PUBLIC SAFETY WAREHOUSE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO EITHER LEASE OR BUY BUT IT'S CERTAINLY ALSO SOMETHING THAT IS USABLE MAYBE FOR RECREATIONAL PRESSURES AS WELL.
-- PURPOSES AS WELL. I'LL GET TOGETHER WITH THE FOLKS AND SEE BUT I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP BECAUSE THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITIES THERE. OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYBODY PLEASE GO OUT AND MAKE IT A SAFE AND HAPPY FOURTH OF JULY AND AS ALWAYS, I ENJOY WORKING WITH MY COLLEAGUES BECAUSE WE MAY DISAGREE BUT WE ARE ABLE TO HASH IT OUT AND COME UP WITH WHAT WORKS BEST FOR THE COUNTY AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
>> THANK YOU. >> I WOULD JUST ECHO THE SAME SENTIMENTS AS MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
THE COUNTY MANAGER AND I WERE DISCUSSING EARLIER AN REALLY THAT WAS WRITTEN -- ARTICLE THAT WAS WRITTEN INTENDED TO BE NEGATIVE ABOUT CLAY COUNTY AND THE COMMENTS WERE I'M MOVING TO CLAY COUNTY BECAUSE OF THE VALUES AND THINGS SO ANYWAY, PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE LOW TAXES, A GREAT SCHOOL SYSTEM. GREAT EDUCATION SYSTEM.
GREAT CONSERVATIVE VALUES AND THAT'S WHY WE ALL LIVE HERE TOO.
THE WORK WE DO IS VERY IMPORTANT AND WE TRY TO BALANCE THE RESIDENTS HERE AND THOSE WHO WANT TO COME HERE BECAUSE THEY APPRECIATE OUR WAY OF LIFE. I THINK WE IN CLAY COULD WANTY REFLECT AMERICA'S VALUES AND WHAT OUR COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON SO LONG AGO.
BUT ANYWAY, I TOO WOULD SAY BE SAFE.
REMEMBER THE HOLIDAY IS THE FOURTH.
BUT MOST OF YOU ARE GOING TO CELEBRATE ON -- OVER THE WEEKEND I IMAGINE IT WILL BE AN EXTENDED CELEBRATION.
BUT ONE OF THE BEST 4TH OF JULY EVENTS IN THE COUNTY IS OUR COUNTRY DAY IN KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. THEY IS A FREEDOM 5K AT 8:00 IN THE MORNING. I VOLUNTEER FOR THAT.
I DON'T RUN BECAUSE THEY'VE ASKED ME TO VOLUNTEER EVERY YEAR THAT THEY'VE HAD IT BUT IT'S A GREAT EVENT.
IT RAISES FUNDS FOR SCHOLARSHIPS FOR THE LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL SO THE MONEY STAYS RIGHT THERE IN KEYSTONE HEIGHTS AS WELL AS THEN THERE ARE A LOT OF NEW EVENTS COMING THIS YEAR.
THERE'S A HOT DOG EATING CONTEST IF ANY OF YOU ARE OPEN FOR THAT.
THERE IS A DUNK TANK WHICH I'M NOT GOING TO BE IN TO I KNOW YOUR CHAGRIN BECAUSE I AM THE GRAND MARSHAL FOR THE KINGSLY LAKE BOAT PARADE. SO ANYWAY LOTS OF GREAT EVENTS GOING ON. AND LOTS OF FUN TO BE HAD ON THE FOURTH OF JULY TO CELEBRATE OUR COUNTRY'S BIRTHDAY.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FOR GOOD OF THE ORDER? SEEING NONE, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.