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>> GOOD EVENING. IT IS 6:30 AND WELCOME TO THE CLAY COUNTY MEETING.
FIRST IS ROLE CALL. BILLY? >> BILLY HERE
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>> >> UH PROFPL OF THE MINUTES -- APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
I HAD A FEW THINGS THAT I NOTED. IN ONE AREA THEY HAVE BELLA'S NAME AS BE -- B-E-L-L-A.
AND THEN ON THE PAGE LATER IT HAS HER NAME AS B-E-L-L-E. >> B-E-L-A.
CAN I ASK YOU, ACTUALLY, WHEN WE HAVE TO SAY WHO IS HERE DO I HAVE TO SAY MY LEGAL NAME?
>> NO. >> AND IT SAYS ON PAGE 1 OF THE MINUTES AND THE PUBLIC COMMENT SAYS 6:34 AND I AM THINKING IT HAS TO BE 7:34. THE MEETING DIDN'T START UNTIL
6:30. >> THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT -- OR THE SECOND CASH DASH AND THEN IT SAYS THE PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING STARTED AT 4:30. I AM NOT SURE WHAT THESE NUMBERS
ARE. AND THEN IT SAYS 45:16. >> THAT IS THE VIDEO.
>> OH. >> SO WHEN WE PUT THAT UP THERE, WE DON'T DO VERBATIM WORD FOR
WORD, THAT IS WHERE THEY CAN REFER TO THE VIDEO AT THAT TIME. >> IT IS A MARKER.
OKAY. OKAY. I WAS JUST LIKE IS THIS SOME KIND OF MILITARY? OKAY AND THEN UNDER NUMBER 2, BLUE ANGELS IT IT SAYS THE CHAIRMAN SUGGESTED IT AND IT WAS BILLY WHO SUGGESTED THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA. IT WAS HIS SUGGESTION. AND THEN ON PAGE 5 OF THE MINUTES UNDER STAFF COMMENTS WE DISCUSSED FORT 11 AND EVERYTHING I READ ABOUT FORT 11 THE 11 IS NUMERICAL. IT IS AN ACTUAL NUMBERED FORT. IT IS NEVER SPELLED OUT.
DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE IF I COMMENTS ABOUT THE MINUTES? >> I HAVE A QUESTION.
IS IT ALL RIGHT TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE MINUTES? >> SURE.
>> ON PAGE 5 ON THE SECOND TO LAST PARAGRAPH, RANDY HARRIS MENTIONED THAT HE VISITED AN OLD CRACKER HOME, THE ORIGINAL HOMESTEAD OF SHERIFF CHERRY. IS THERE A FOLLOW-UP OR --
>> THAT'S WHY WE REFER TO THE VIDEO. THEY CAN GO AND SEE THE ENTIRE
DISCUSSION. >> AND ARE WE AS A BOARD FOLLOWING UP ON THAT ANYWAY, OR
IS THAT JUST PUT OUT THERE. >> THAT WAS DISCUSSION. >> I WAS CONTACTED BY THE CLAY ARCHIVES AND SHE SAYS IT IS REALLY RIGHT ACROSS THE -- RIGHT ACROSS 220 AND DOWN AWAYS.
WHICH IS TO SAY IT IS RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD FROM THE SALVATION ARMY THAT'S THERE.
I LOOKED ON GOOGLE MAPS AND SAW AND THERE WERE LIKE FIVE TRAILERS BACK THERE AND THE ONE CRACKER HOUSE. I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS CONSIDERED PRIVATE PROPERTY OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT. ONE DAY DOM -- COMING BACK I TURNED BACK THERE AND HAD MY
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CAMERA AND TOOK A BUNCH OF PICTURES AND THEY ARE BOTH ON THE COMPUTER AND THE MUSEUM AND ELSEWHERE. I AM PROBABLY GONNA POST THEM ON THE CLAY COUNTY MUSEUM SITE.AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY -- THERE WAS AN ADA THAT PIPED IN AND SHE DIDN'T SEE HIM AT THE TIME. UPSET ABOUT ANYBODY GOING BACK THERE.
I COMPARED THE PICTURES TO THE HISTORIC PICTURES OF THE CHERRY HOUSE AND I CALLED AND SAID THE ONE BACK THERE IS THE SECOND STORY AND SHE HAS THE PAPERWORK THAT SHOWS WHEN THEY DID THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE HOUSE. THEY PUT THE SECOND STORY ON AND EXTENDED THE HOUSE.
AND THERE WAS JUST A STUFF IN THERE LIKE JUST PANTS AND IT IS ALL MANGLED UP AND WE WOULDN'T WANT TO MOVE ANYTHING FROM A HISTORIC PLACE LIKE THAT. I POSTED THE PICTURES OF IT AND
IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING. >> THANK YOU. >> ALSO I POSTED PICTURES OF THE
GESTAFSON RESIDENCE. >> THAT IS ON THE MUSEUM SITE? >> I WILL MAKE SURE I PUT IT ON
THERE. >> SO ARE WE APPROVING THE MINUTES?
DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION? >> I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH THE CHANGES THAT WE
HAVE SUGGESTED. >> WE HAVE A SECOND? >> A SECOND.
>> ALL IN FAVOR? >> I. >> I'S HAVE IT.
>> WE HAVE THE MINUTES FROM THE MAY 15TH BLUE ANGELS MARKER SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING.
DID EVERYONE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ THROUGH THOSE? THEY ARE PRETTY BRIEF.
YOU WERE THERE. >> I CAN GIVE A BRIEF SUMMARY. WE SAT THERE AND TALKED ABOUT THE TWO LANGUAGES FROM YOURS AND THE SUGGESTED CHANGES I SUGGESTED AND JERRY SUGGESTED
AND -- >> AND PREVIOUS OF THIS. >> THAT'S ALL WE DISCUSSED AND
WE GAVE IT BACK TO YOU FOR ANOTHER DRAFT. >> I WROTE UP MINUTES AND I BELIEVE THEY WERE IN THE PACKET. IT IS ABOUT A PARAGRAPH LONG. HEARING NO OTHER COMMENTS DO WE
HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SUBCOMMITTEE. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE
THE MINUTES. >> SECOND. >> RANDY, DO YOU SECOND IT?
>> YES. >> ALL IN FAVOR? >> I.
>> I'S HAVE IT. >> ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE WE ARE GOING TO GO
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TO OLD BUSINESS. THE ELECTION OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD OFFICERS FOR THE SLATE OF 23-24. CURRENTLY WE HAVE THE CHAIR AS JERRY, GIRARD -- AM IPRONOUNCING HIS NAME RIGHT? >> CASALE. >> CASALE.
MYSELF AS VICE CHAIR AND SECRETARY AS CARLA LANGSTON. >> MAKE A MOTION TO ELECT THE
NAMES TO THOSE POSITIONS. >> ALL IN FAVOR. >> I.
>> DO WE NEED TO HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> SECONDED BY MAUREEN.
ALL IN FAVOR? >> I. I'S HAVE IT.
>> WE HAVE A NEW ELECTION OF OFFICERS NOW FOR 2324. I I GUESS WE WILL JUMP RIGHT INTO THE BLUE ANGELS HISTORIC MARKER. BECAUSE WE MET AS A SUBCOMMITTEE WE WERE ABLE TO CONDENSE JERRY'S CHANGES AS WELL AS INCORPORATING VISHU'S CHANGES AND JERRY'S CHANGES INTO ONE COCOA HE SEUF -- COHESIVE WRITE UP. AND HAS EVERYONE HAD AN
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OPPORTUNITY TO READ THE CONDENSED VERSION? DID YOU SEND THAT OUT?>> I COULD POSSIBLY EXPLAIN. THE REASON YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT VERSIONS IN YOUR PACKET TODAY IS BECAUSE I RECEIVED A SECOND VERSION FROM A DIFFERENT MEMBER IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND ME HE -- HE WAS TASKED WITH TAKING THE CHANGES AND PUTTING IT INTO A DRAFT.
THE STAFF WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME CLARIFICATION AND PERHAPS I CAN SHARE WITH YOU SOME INFORMATION ON WHAT OUR ARCHIVES DIVISION IS PLANNING TO DO OR HOPING TO DO IF THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL IN RECEIVING SOME FUNDING. I WILL PASS THIS TO YOU.
THE REASON I THOUGHT JERRY'S VERSION -- HIM WORKING ON THAT, THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE IT IN BILLY'S NOTES OR I DIDN'T THINK HE HAD BILLY'S NOTES. DID YOU GIVE HIM A COPY?
>> I THINK HE WAS WORKING ON IT AND SAID IF IT WAS ONE-SIDED REMEMBER HE WAS GOING TO -- HE
WAS GONNA WORK ON A LITTLE BIT MORE CONDENSED -- >> THAT'S RIGHT.
WE HAVE A LIMITED NUMBER OF CHARACTERS JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S KNOWLEDGE OF 1235 CHARACTERS FOR ONE SIDE WHICH WILL SAVE US A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS. IT IS NOT LIKE IT IS A DOUBLE FOR THE OTHER SIDE. THE SINGLE SIDE IS 2420 AND THE DOUBLE SIDE IS 2780.
>> AND ACTUALLY THE PRICES HAVE APPARENTLY GONE UP. >> SINCE LAST WEEK?
>> YES, SINCE LAST MONTH. ON THE WEBSITE TODAY THE SINGLE-SIDED IS $2540 AND THE DOUBLE-SIDED WHICH IS TWO DIFFERENT SIDES OF TEXT IS $2920.
>> WOW. >> AND THE REASON I HAVE HANDED YOU THIS DOCUMENT IS BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THE CLERK OF COURTS OF THE OFFICES IS WORKING ON. THEY ARE HOPING TO PUT TOGETHER A KIOSK WHICH WILL HAVE THREE SIDES PROVIDING MUCH MORE INFORMATION THAN THIS HISTORIC MARKER CAN PROVIDE. AND THEN ON THE BACK OF THIS DOCUMENT IS KIND OF THE LAYOUT THAT THEY ARE HOPING TO HAVE WHICH I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER PERHAPS WHERE YOUR MARKER WOULD BE IN RELATION TO THIS. I'M THINKING ACTUALLY AS YOU ARE FACING THEIR MARKER, THEIR KIOSK, PERHAPS ON THE LEFT SIDE BECAUSE THIS HAS TURNED TO THE RIGHT AND MAYBE IT IF -- IF IT WAS ON THE LEFT AND RUNNING PARALLEL WITH THE EXISTING SIDEWALK, IF ARE YOU DOING A SINGLE-SIDED. THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO ASK FROM YOU FOR CLARIFICATION. ARE YOU, NUMBER ONE, PLANNING TO DO A SINGLE-SIDED WITH THE SAME TEXT, OR ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO A DOUBLE-SIDED WITH A DIFFERENT TEXT.
AND THE CHARACTER LENGTH COMES INTO PLAY. WILL SO THAT WOULD HELP YOU WITH
DEVELOPING YOUR DRAFT. >> I'M THINKING THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO DO A SINGLE-SIDED.
EVERYTHING THAT WE REALLY NEEDED TO SAY WE COULD IN IN-- WE COULD INCORPORATE IN ONE SIDE.
AFTER I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH BILLY AND JERRY, I THINK THAT WE REALLY DID -- WE COULD CONDENSE IT. ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE THIS OTHER WHOLE KIOSK THAT IS GOING TO GO INTO A LOT MORE DETAIL. SO WITH THAT, BILLY BROUGHT TO MIND SINCE HIS BACKGROUND IS ACTUALLY INSTALLING THE MARKERS, HE SAID THAT WE HAD A 20-WEEK WINDOW THAT WOULD PUT US VERY CLOSE TO THE OCTOBER CUTOFF IF WE ARE TRYING TO GET THIS ALL IN PLACE AND DONE FOR THE BLUE ANGELS FLY BY, IF WE ARE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING AND COORDINATE IT WITH THE EVENT. WE NEED TO MAKE THIS DECISION I AM THINKING TODAY.
>> AGAIN FROM THE WEBSITE IT SAID 20 TO 22 WEEKS AFTER SUBMITTED TO THE MANUFACTURER.
AND SO THERE IS ALSO GOING TO BE DEPENDING ON WHEN IT IS SUBMITTED TO THE STATE UP TO TWO MONTHS TO GET IN THE CYCLE. I DON'T BELIEVE WE ARE IN THE REALM OF GETTING THIS DONE THIS
YEAR. I'M CERTAIN -- >> SO THE KIOSKS WILL HAPPEN
THIS YEAR? >> IF THEY GET THE FUNDING. IT DEPENDS ON THE MANUFACTURER
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OF THE KIOSK AND THEIR TIMING. THE GOAL WOULD BE OCTOBER, BUT CERTAINLY THIS -- THERE COULD BE A PRESENTATION OUT THERE TO ELUDE TO THE FUTURE OF WHAT IS COMING.I'M NOT SURE. WE WOULD HAVE TO SEE THE TIMING OF THE FUNDING AND THE
MANUFACTURE OF THE KIOSK. >> I GUESS THAT DOES AFFORD US THOUGH TIME TO TWEAK THIS AND I WAS REALLY FEELING THE PRESSURE THAT WE HAD TO HAVE IT DONE TONIGHT.
>> SKP-TD OTHER THING -- AND THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO HAND OUT TO YOU, OBVIOUSLY YOUR AGENDA IS ONLINE AND THEY LOOKED AT THE DRAFT THAT IS IN THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED SOME COMMENTS. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE HIGHLIGHTING MEANS, BUT THERE IS SOME STRIKE THROUGH CHANGES. IF YOU WOULD LIKE THAT, I CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
CHANGE. >> AND IT WENT TO BOTH VERSIONS IN THE AGENDA.
THEY DID CALL THEM OUT STKPARS -- AS FAR AS WHOSE THEY WERE.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WHEN I GOT TWO VERSIONS AND I PUT THEM IN THE AGENDA BLIND.
>> I DON'T THINK IT REALLY MATTERS. I THINK WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT IS WE GET SOMETHING THAT WE ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH. AND THEN WE CAN INCORPORATE THEIR INFORMATION AS WELL. I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO CONSIDER WHAT THEY ARE WRITING IS THEY HAVE EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT EXACTLY IS GONNA BE ON THE KIOSK.
SO THEY WOULD BE IN A POBGS -- A POSITION TO BETTER SERVE US FOR WHAT WE SHOULD TAKE OUT AND LEAVE IN BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE A DUPLICATION OF WHAT IS ALREADY GONNA BE PRESENTED.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> AND WE NEED TO FACTOR IN IF YOU ARE DOING THE SINGLE-SIDED IT NEEDS TO BE THE 1235 CHARACTERS. JERRY'S IS CLOSER TO THAT.
IT IS ACTUALLY 1235. THE OTHER LONGER VERSION WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE THAT A LITTLE MORE CONCISE. I KNOW WE CALL THIS THE BLUE ANGELS MARKER.
THE OTHER THING IS WE NEED TO REMEMBER WE ARE COMMEMORATING THE AIRFIELD WHICH HAS THIS
SPECIAL FACT TO IT THAT THE BLUE ANGELS PRACTICED THERE. >> I DID CHANGE -- I TOOK
BRANDON FIELD. >> AND NOT TO CONFUSE YOU. IF IT IS ON THE AGENDA I WILL
PUT B RENAN -- THE FIELD. >> IT IS ABOUT THE FIELD AND THE PLACE IN CLAY COUNTY AND H-S HIS STORE US -- IT IS HISTORIC BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED THERE AND WHAT HAPPENED THERE IS BECAUSE OF THE BLUE ANGELS VERSUS IT IS ABOUT THE BLUE ANGELS BECAUSE THAT IS MORE
EXCITING. >> UNDERSTAND. >> SPECIFICALLY IT SHOULD BE THE
AIRFIELD. >> RIGHT. DO WE WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE AND READ THROUGH AT THIS TIME, SEEING THAT WE JUST FOUND THAT WE DO HAVE A BROADER TIMELINE? DO WE WANT TO TAKE TIME THIS EVENING TO ADD, INCORPORATE ANY OTHER THINGS BESIDES WHAT MARY AND VISHIE HAVE ADDED? OR DO WE WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK AT IT AT HOME AND THEN COME
BACK OR EMAIL EVERYTHING TO BETH? >> THAT IS YOUR CALL IF YOU WANTED ANOTHER SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING OR HOWEVER -- WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE.
>> HERE IS THE THING ABOUT THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS. THEY ARE VERY PRODUCTIVE.
IT IS INFORMAL AND WE CAN JUST SCRATCH THINGS OUT AND JUST GET IT DONE RIGHT AWAY.
IT IS JUST THAT IT IS ANOTHER LEVEL OF TIME FROM PEOPLE THAT HAVE JOBS AND POSITIONS, AND THIS IS A VOLUNTARY POST. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANYBODY ELSE'S TIME TO DO THAT.
>> I CAN READ IT NO PROBLEM. IF WE WANT TO TAKE IT BACK TO SUBCOMMITTEE.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR BETH. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WORD COUNT IS ON JERRY'S VERSION THAT THE
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ARCHIVES UPDATED? OR MODIFIED? >> I DO NOT.
I DON'T THINK THEY ACTUALLY CHANGED ANYTHING IN HIS. THERE IS NOTHING STRIKED OR
UNDERLINED. HIS IS 12:35. >> THEY CHANGED THE SECOND WORLD
WAR. >> DID THEY? DID THEY SPELL IT OUT?
>> NO. THEY SHORTENED IT. >> IT WAS ORIGINALLY W W-2.
AND THEN JERRY WANTED IT SPELLED OUT. AND NOW THEY HAVE PUT IT BACK TO WW II. THIS IS THE LITTLE THINGS THAT IS AN INDIVIDUAL PERSON'S -- --
>> I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHICH WOULD FIT WITHIN OUR 1250 CHARACTERS.
>> 1235. SO HIS ORIGINAL DRAFT IN THE AGENDA TODAY WAS 1235.
DO YOU -- >> DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT MY ORIGINAL DRAFT WAS?
NO, THE ONE I INCORPORATED EVERYBODY'S CHANGES IN. >> THE ONE YOU SENT TO ME?
>> 2500. >> OH, ALL RIGHT. >> YOURS WOULD HAVE WORKED IF WE WENT TO A TWO-SIDED ONE AND JERRY'S KIND OF WORKS WITH A ONE-SIDED.
THEN AGAIN, IF YOU THINK THIS WILL BE LABOR THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE WE CAN TAKE IT BACK TO
THE SUBCOMMITTEE. >> I THINK WE CAN TAKE IT BACK TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
IT SAVES A LOT OF TIME AND NOW YOU ARE IMAGERRED WITH -- IMERGED WITH IT ANYWAY.
WE WILL COME UP WITH A DAY AND A TIME TO MEET WITH BETH MAYBE LATER IN THE MONTH.
ARE WE STILL OFF IN JULY? IT WOULD BE AUGUST THEN. >> IT WOULD BE AUGUST.
>> WE CAN SCHEDULE IT BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING. >> THAT SOUNDS GOOD.
>> I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE REST OF THE BOARD. IS THERE ANYBODY THAT HAS ANY ISSUES WITH -- THAT THEY WANT TO SEE RIGHT NOW THAT IS GLARING OR IS THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD BEFORE WE TAKE IT BACK TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE?
>> ABSOLUTELY. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN
ADDITION TO WHAT HAS BEEN EDITED OUT? >> I THINK YOU HAVE GOOD STARTS.
I THINK YOU HAVE SOME GOOD DIRECTION FROM VISHIE AND THE OTHER PERSON WHO TOOK A LOOK AT THAT. THEY WOULD BE THERE WITH WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO PUT IN.
SO I THINK YOU'VE GOT SOME GOOD FEEDBACK TO START WITH. >> OKAY.
>> DO YOU WANT TO LOOK AT YOUR CALENDAR? >> I THINK WE CAN JUST WAIT AND WE WILL EMAIL BETH BECAUSE SHE WILL NEED TO FIND A ROOM FOR US. AND A DAY AND TIME SOMEBODY WILL BE THERE TO LET US IN. WE CAN MEET. IS EVERYONE OKAY WITH THAT? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING?
>> SOMETIME IN -- WHEN? >> BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT MEETING IN AUGUST.
>> WHAT TIME DID YOU MEET LAST TIME? >> IT WAS LIKE 4:30.
>> IT WAS 4. >> 4:00. >> ON LIKE A THURSDAY?
>> IT WAS DURING THE WEEK. >> IT WAS ACTUALLY ON A MONDAY, BUT IT WAS JUST WHEN -- IT WAS A
DATE WE PICKED. THERE WAS NO SET DATE. >> IT WAS FLEXIBILITY.
>> I THINK I PUT IT ON A THURSDAY, LATER AT LIKE -- WELL, ACTUALLY -- I CAN PROBABLY DO
IT. >> SO WE CAN INCLUDE YOU IN THE EMAIL.
OKAY. THURSDAY ARE YOU SAYING? AND TO BE CLEAR, I'M SORRY, YOUR WORD COUNT WAS 2164 AND THAT IS TAKING OUT THE TITLE. THE TITLE DOESN'T COUNT TOWARD IT. IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE THAT FUNCTION IN WORD, I WOULD
BE HAPPY TO SHOW YOU. >> I HAVE IT. BY NOW I'VE GOT IT.
>> BELLA AND BILLY AND MYSELF ARE GONNA COME UP WITH A TIME TO MEET PROBABLY A THURSDAY AROUND 4:00 OR A WEDNESDAY THAT WOULD WORK BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT MEETING IN AOUG -- IN AUGUST AND I WILL COORDINATE THAT THROUGH BETH AND BETH WILL SEND YOU AN EMAIL CONFIRMING THE TIME AND
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DATE. IS THAT RIGHT? >> WELL, I NEED TO CHECK FOR A
LOCATION. SO IF YOU CAN TELL ME -- YEAH. >> DID YOU GO TO THE LIBRARY
LAST TIME? >> YES. >> WHERE DID WE GO?
>> WE WENT TO THE HISTORICAL COURTHOUSE. >> OH, THAT'S RIGHT.
>> AND I THINK JERRY WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO BE IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE'S OFFICE.
>> GREAT. NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE SLIM WHITMAN STATE HISTORIC MARKER AND THE DRAFT MARKER LANGUAGE AND ANY REVISIONS. DID YOU HAVE --
>> OUR LAST MEETING I PASSED OUT WHAT THE WHITMAN FAMILY OFFERED AS TEXT FOR THE MARKER. WE DECIDED IT WASN'T ENOUGH WORDS ON IT TO ADEQUATELY CONVEY THE HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE OF THE AREA. I HANDED THOSE OUT TO EVERY BOARD MEMBER.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY MADE ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THEM. >> I DID NOT, BUT I DO REMEMBER YOU SENDING THAT OUT. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO WORK ON FURTHER?
>> WE CAN WORK ON IT FURTHER. I HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH THE WHIT PHA*P FAMILY -- THE WHITMAN FAMILY. THERE IS A COUPLE ISSUES WITH THE STATE MARKER THAT, NUMBER ONE, PLACEMENT. WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PUT IT? WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PUT IT THAT WON'T CAUSE CARS TO STOP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD TO READ IT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
DEWEY IS KIND OF SICK AND AS SOON AS HE GETS BETTER, I WILL MEET HIM AND A NUMBER OF HIS FAMILY MEMBERS AT THE WOOD PECKER PAIR -- PARADISE AND SEE WHERE IT CAN BE PLACED THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. AND HE MENTIONED THAT THERE IS A CHURCH GROUND ACROSS THE ROAD THAT HE MAY HAVE ACCESS TO PUTTING A MARKER UP THERE. OUR OPTIONS ARE STILL CHANGING.
>> HOW ABOUT THE CHURCH? >> I'M NOT SURE. I NEVER LOOKED OVER THAT WAY WHEN I WENT DOWN THE ROAD I WILL BE GOING OUT THERE SOMETIME THIS WEEK OR WHENEVER DEWEY WANTS TO MEET OUT THERE AND TALK ABOUT IT. I'LL GET GPS COORDINATES AND
EVERYTHING WE CAN AS DETAILED AS POSSIBLE. >> AND THEN REGARDING THIS LANGUAGE WE NEED RESOURCES TO BACK UP THE STATEMENTS AND THE -- WE CAN'T TAKE THIS.
WE NEED TO -- WHEN THERE IS CLAIMS ABOUT NUMBER OF MILLIONS OF RECORDS SOLD WE NEED
SOMETHING THAT DOCUMENTS THAT. THIS ALL NEEDS TO BE CHECKED. >> THAT CAME DIRECTLY FROM THE
FAMILY. I WASN'T AWARE. >> AND YOU ALL MAY VERY WELL BE CORRECT. WE NEED TO BACK IT UP WITH DOCUMENTATION.
IT IS AN ON GOING PROCESS AND I WILL MAINTAIN IT AND IT KEEPS ON GOING.
>> SO WE WILL PUT THIS ON AND REVISIT NEXT MEETING. >> HOPEFULLY I WILL HAVE SOME
MORE WORD -- WORDING, SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED. >> THAT BRINGS ME TO A POINT THAT I HAVE ALL OF THE REFERENCES FOR BLUE ANGEL STUFF I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN AS WELL, BUT
THAT DOESN'T COUNT AS OUR WORD COUNT, DOES IT? >> NO.
THAT IS A SEPARATE DOCUMENT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE. >> SHOULD I JUST SEND THAT TO
YOU? >> YEAH. I HAVE PROBABLY MOST OF THAT
FROM VISHI. >> AM I ABLE TO SEE THE REFERENCES?
LIKE YOU CAN SEND THEM TO ME? >> CERTAINLY I CAN EMAIL THAT TO YOU.
RIGHT NOW -- OR, HERE. THEY ARE ON THIS PIECE OF PAPER. WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO SEE THE
REFERENCES? >> I MEAN, IF YOU ARE GOING TO SEND THEM YOU CAN SEND THEM OUT.
>> DO YOU KNOW HOW TO DO FOOT NOTES? >> UH-HUH.
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>> I WAS WONDERING. >> I I CAN PUT IT IN THAT FORMAT.
>> DOES IT HAVE TO BE IN CHICAGO STYLE? >> THAT I DON'T KNOW.
>> I CAN'T THINK WHAT I DID WITH THE AUGUSTA SAVAGE. I HAVEN'T DONE A BIBLY YOKING
TKPWRAU FEE -- BIBLIOGRAPHY SINCE COLLEGE. >> ARE YOU CLOSER TO COLLEGE
THAN I AM SO YOU WOULD BE A GREAT RESOURCE. >> YOU CAN HELP ME.
>> FOR HISTORY YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO USE CHICAGO -- IT IS CALLED CHICAGO MANUAL STYLE.
>> OH IT IS FOR HISTORIANS SPECIFIC. >> AND FOR HISTORY.
THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO USE. >> CAN YOU TELL ME --
>> A WRITING STYLE FREQUENTLY USED BY HISTORIANS AND MANY OTHER WRITERS.
>> FOR THE BIBLIOGRAPHY -- >> WHAT IS IT CALLED? >> CHICAGO STYLE.
>> I WILL GOOGLE THAT. >> CHICAGO MAN -- MANUAL OF STYLE?
>> YEAH. >> I PREFER IMMEDIATE TKROE -- MEADOWBROOKE STYLE.
>> DO WE HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS? >> I JUST WANT TO PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE.
NOTHING AFFIRMATIVE YET, BUT I STOPPED BY AND VISITED THE VILLAGE, WOMEN'S IMPROVEMENT -- THE VILLAGE IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION. I SPOKE WITH THE LADY WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF THAT AND SHE SPOKE AT THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY THE BUILDING -- AND THE BUILDING THEY ARE LOCATED IN, IT IS A HISTORIC BUILDING. THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER SOMETHING THAT WE REVIEWED AT A LATER DATE. I WILL GO IN THERE ABOUT -- GO IN THERE WITH MY CAMERA AND GET PHOTOGRAPHIC RECORDINGS. IT IS REALLY QUITE A STREUBG TOUR. STRUCTURE. IT IS THE OLDEST STRUCTURE.
IT IS AWESOME. THEY WELCOME ANYBODY THAT COMES THERE.
THEY WILL BE HAPPY TO SHOW ANYBODY THAT GOES THERE AROUND. THEY HAVE A BUNCH OF OLD RELICS.
>> WHERE IS THIS? IS THIS GREEN COVE? >> IT IS JUST DOWN THE STREET
FROM THE POST OFFICE. >> DON'T THEY HAVE A MARKER. >> I'M NOT SURE.
>> THEY DO. >> OH THEY DO? OKAY.
ANYWAY. IF THEY DO I HAVEN'T SEEN IT. THEY ARE GONNA BE GOING THROUGH SOME IMPROVEMENTS ON THE BUILDING. THEY NEED TO BUILD A HANDICAP RAMP IN THE BACK AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND HER HUSBAND IS THE GUY THAT OWNS DARRIN'S AUTO RESTORATION PLACE AND THEY OWN THE CARRIAGE HOUSE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF DARRIN'S. I WOULD LIKE TO GET IN THERE AND GET SOME PICTURES AS WELL.
ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO UPDATE EVERYBODY ON THAT. THERE IS NOTHING WE NEED TO DO, BUT IT MIGHT TAKE OFF AND BECOME SOMETHING. WE DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE ABOUT THAT. >> SINCE WE DO NOT HAVE ANY CERTIFICATES OF APPROVAL AND WE DO DO NOT HAVE ANYONE -- WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS. LET'S JUST GO DOWN THE LINE AND
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START WITH BILLY. I'M SORRY. STAFF COMMENTS.>> SO I WANTED TO RAISE THE QUESTION BECAUSE WE HAVE -- WITH OUR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND OTHER MEETINGS THAT WE MOVED UP EARLIER -- IN THE TIME. IT USED TO BE A 7 P.M. MEETING AND WE MOVED IT UP. I WANTED TO RAISE THE QUESTION TO SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY INTEREST IN MOVING THIS MEETING UP. I KNOW YOU ARE TRAVELING A DISTANCE.
>> I WOULD LOVE TO MOVE IT UP. >> SO THE MEETING IS CURRENTLY AT 6:30.
I AM RAISING THAT QUESTION TO YOU ALL. >> I WOULD LOVE TO MOVE IT UP.
>> MOVE IT UP TO 5? IS THAT THE TIME YOU MEAN? >> I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY
ACCOMMODATE 5. >> I WOULD LOVE IT TO BE 5. >> HAVE I NO ISSUES -- I HAVE NO
ISSUE WITH 5:00. >> I CAN DO 5. >> I SEE A GRIM -- GRIMACES?
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>> 5:30? >> WORKS FOR ME. EITHER OF THOSE TIMES.
>> I'M GOOD WITH WHAT THE GENERAL CONSENSUS IS. >> IF WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH 5 AND MELISSA NEEDS 5:30, I THINK WE CAN ACCOMMODATE YOU AND MAKE IT 5:30 SO EVERYBODY IS ON BOARD BECAUSE IF IT IS WORK-RELATED -- YEAH. I THINK WE NEED TO WORK WITH EVERYONE'S SCHEDULE. I JUST KNOW THAT AS THE TIME GOES INTO THE LATER MONTHS IT GETS DARKER EARLIER AND I DON'T LIKE TO DRIVE THAT DISTANCE IN THE DARK.
>> I'VE -- 5:30? >> WOULD YOU CONSIDER TO MAKE THE MOTION AND THEN I WILL CHECK
INTO IT. >> SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO CHANGE OUR
MEETING TIME TO 5:30. >> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR?
>> I. >> I'S HAVE IT. OUR NEW MEETING TIME WILL BE AT
5:30. >> WITH THE CAVEAT I CAN MAKE SURE THE ROOM IS AVAILABLE AT 5:30. IT HAS BEEN. AT LEAST TODAY THERE WAS NO
CONFLICT, BUT I WILL UPDATE YOU. >> IT WOULD STILL BE ON A THURSDAY.
>> YES. >> THE FIRST WEEK. >> THE FIRST THURSDAY OF THE
MONTH AT 5:30. >> OH, AND THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT TO YOU ALL IS PROMPTED A LITTLE BY YOU BECAUSE I DID NEED TO GET AROUND TO UPDATING THE WEBSITE.
IT IS NOT SOMETHING I HAVE GOTTEN TO. BUT I HAVE UPDATED THE WEBSITE.
I REMOVED THE MISSION AND REVISED IT. I REMOVED THE LETTER FROM THE CHAIRMAN. WE HAD NO IDEA WHO WROTE THAT. I TOOK THAT UP AND UPDATED YOUR MEMBERSHIP AND ADDED THE APPLICATION YOU ALL APPROVED FOR STATE MARKERS AND ADDED LINKS TO THE STATE MARKER PROGRAM SO IF CITIZENS WANT TO APPLY ON THEIR OWN THEY CAN USE THAT AS A LINK THERE. I HAVE ADDED EXTRA ADDITIONAL LINKS FOR ORANGE PARK HISTORICAL SOCIETIES AS WELL AS THE LIBRARIES HAVE FREE ACCESS TO ANCESTRY.COM.
THERE IS A LINK THERE. I WELCOME YOU -- THEY ARE STILL REVISING IT.
THERE WILL BE CHANGES THROUGH TOMORROW, BUT I WELCOME YOU ALL TO LOOK AT IT AND IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS EMAIL THEM TO ME. OTHER LINKS WE CAN INCLUDE.
I DID NOT INCLUDE KEYSTONES HERITAGE. I HONESTLY FORGOT.
I SEE THEY JUST HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE. THEY DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL
WEBSITE? >> THEY HAVE A CITY OF KEYSTONE WEBSITE AND THEN WE ARE UNDER IT AS A COMMISSION. WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN -- IT IS UNDER THE CITY OF KEYSTONE.
>> IF ANY OF YOU HAVE DISCUSSIONS OF -- SUGGESTIONS OF OTHER SITES THAT ARE INTERESTING TO PUT UP THERE. IT IS NOT LIKE HAVING A FULL PAGE.
IT IS TECHNICALLY UNDER THE BOARDS AND COMMITTEES THAT ARE A BEAR BONE PAGE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE MISSION AND THE MEMBERSHIP. SINCE YOUR MISSION IS ON PRESERVATION, I TOOK A LITTLE
LIBERTY TO ADD LENGTHS TO IT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> ANY OTHER STAFF COMMENTS?
>> NO. >> NOW BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS AND I WILL START WITH BILLY.
[Board Member's Comments]
>> I UNDERSTAND FROM A CONVERSATION I HAD WITH BETH, A FEW -- PROBABLY ABOUT SIX WEEKS AGO IN MY DAY JOB I WAS APPROACHED BY A CITIZEN. THERE IS A PORTION OF THE COUNTY SOUTH OF GRENCO ALONG THE 209 DECOY AREA. HE WAS SAYING IT WAS KNOWN AS WEST DECOY OR WHATEVER, SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT FOR YEARS AND THEY HAD A SIGN ON 209 STATING THAT WAS NAMED LIKE DOWN IN KEYSTONE MCCRAY AND MELROSE GOING TO KEYSTONE AND SOME OF THESE OTHER PLACES LIKE THAT. HE SAID THE SIGN WENT MISSING SOMETIME DURING THE 60S.
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HIM AND HIS NEIGHBORS WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE PUT BACK UP. TALKING WITH BETH, AS THE SIGN SUPERVISOR OF ORANGE COUNTY I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I SHOULD JUST MAKE THE SIGN AND PUTTING IT UP WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE BOARD HERE TO SEE IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT NEEDED HISTORICALSIGNIFICANCE ENOUGH FOR US TO PUT THE SIGN BACK UP. >> IS THERE ANY ANYWAY THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN COMING PUBLICLY TO THE MEETING AND ADDRESSING US?
>> I WILL REACH OUT TO THEM AND INVITE THEM TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.
>> THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IT CREATES THEIR INVOLVEMENT WHICH IS WHAT WE WANT WITH THE PUBLIC. THEY CAN PROBABLY SHED A LOT OF LIGHT ON WHAT THIS MARCUSEER WAS AND WHAT IT REFERENCED IN THE PAST AND THEN FROM THERE WE CAN START RESEARCHING IT.
>> OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. LIKE I SAID, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A PROCESS IF PLACE. BETH WASN'T AWARE OF ONE TO RECOGNIZE THESE LITTLE SMALL AREAS. THEY ARE NOT ASKING FOR A STATE MARKER.
>> SOME RECOGNITION. >> YES. >> I WANTED TO BRING IT TO Y'ALL'S DECISION AND I WILL INVITE THEM TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.
>> EVERYONE OKAY WITH THAT? GOOD. >> THAT'S IT FOR ME.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? >> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. >> ALSO DOWN THERE IN THE WEST DECOY AREA IT WAS THE WEST DECOY TURPENTINE CAMP. WHERE THE WORKERS STAYED IS STILL STANDING. IT IS A LONG CYLINDER BUILDING AND IT HAS SEVEN UNITS.
EACH UNIT HAS THREE APARTMENTS AND AT THE VERY EPBGD -- END IS THE COMPANY STORE.
THE WORKERS THAT WORKED IN THE TURPENTINE CAMP WERE PAID IN SCRIPT WHICH IS A COIN.
THEY COULD ONLY SPEND IT IN THE COMPANY STORE. THEY COULDN'T SPEND IT ANYWHERE ELSE. IT PRETTY MUCH CONFINED THEM TO THAT TURPENTINE CAMP.
AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT IS THE TWO-HORSE STABLE THAT THE WOODS RIDER AND TURPENTINE MANAGER WHERE THE HORSES WERE KEPT AND NEXT TO THAT WAS THE WOODS RIDER'S HOUSE AND IT IS STILL STANDING. THE WALLS ARE EATING OUT, BUT THE STUDS IN THE HOUSE ARE STILL AS GOOD AS NEW AND THE FLOOR BEAMS LOOK AS GOOD AS NEW. THAT IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU DRAIN THE SAP FROM A LONG LEAF PINE TREE AFTER SIX SEASONS OF DRAINING SAP OUT OF THAT, THE WOOD BECOMES SAPPED OUT AFTER SIX SEASONS. THEN THEY TURN IT INTO A LUMBER MILL AND IT IS OLD GROWTH PINE AND THAT PINE IS SOME OF THE MOST RESILIENT LUMBER IN THE INDUSTRY TODAY, TO THIS DAY. IT IS JUST AN AMAZING PLACE AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF HISTORY DOWN THERE. I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT TO IT. IT WAS A HUGE TURPENTINE CAMP.
THEY HAD THESE CUP THAT'S WERE PUT IN THE TREE AND THEY HAVE THESE LITTLE TIN FUNNELS THAT WOULD DRAIN THE SAP INTO THE CUPS AND THOSE THINGS ARE LAYING ALL OVER THE PLACE AROUND THERE IT IS A REALLY INTERESTING PLACE. IT IS OWNED BY THE NATIONAL TRUCK DRIVER TRAINING SCHOOL THAT YOU PASS A MILE BEFORE YOU GET TO THAT AREA THERE.
IT IS INTERESTING AND THAT'S ALL THE I HAD TO ADD. >> WELL, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY -- WELL, I SHOULD SAY WHEN WE DID THE -- IN HESON HEIGHTS, WE DID A HISTORY DAY FOR THE STUDENTS OF KEYSTONE'S FOURTH GRADE CLASS. AND WE SET UP FOUR STATIONS WHERE THEY CAN MOVE AND YOU ARE THINKING 9-YEAR-OLDS AND YOU HAVE TO KEEP THEM ACTIVE.
WE MOVED THEM THROUGH FOUR STATIONS LEARNING ABOUT KEYSTONE HEIGHTS.
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THEY PASSED DOWN THE MAPS SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE FORT 11 IS. IT IS SPELLED OUT AS FORT AND THEY ARE NUMBERED. THIS IS A RENDITION AND IT IS VERY SIMILAR I THINK TO THE ONE THAT IS FORT CHRISTMAS. THEY HAVE DONE A REPLICA OF THE FORT.JERRY ACTUALLY CAME TO ONE OF OUR TOURS FROM THIS GROUP AND HE KNEW ALL ABOUT FORT 11 AND I INTRODUCED HIM TO THE PEOPLE ON THE KEYSTONE HEIGHTS HERITAGE COMMISSION AND IT WAS LIKE TWO PEAS IN A POD. THEY GOT TO TALKING ABOUT FORT 11 AND THE HISTORY OF THE FORT.
IT IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM CITY HALL AND ALMOST IN THE SAME LOCATION AS WE PUT THE MARKER FOR THE KEYSTONE INN. ONLY THIS WAS YEARS AND YEARS BEFORE THAT WHEN THE INDIANS WERE STILL IN THAT AREA. COME TO FIND OUT THAT THE INDIANS IN THE KEYSTONE HEIGHTS AREA MOVED ON AM MACAW -- AMICABLY AND THERE WAS NO FIGHTING AND NO BLOODSHED WHICH IS AMAZING. THEY MOVED OUT INTO THE STARK -- WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE STARK AREA NOW. THEY LEFT KEYSTONE. THIS FORT WAS THERE AND THE SOLDIERS IN THE FORT REALLY ENDED UP BEING KIND OF THE PEACE KEEPERS FOR ALL OTHER THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING AT THE TIME. IT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT. AND WE TALKED ABOUT AT ONE TIME -- AND I THINK AT OUR LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING IN A MARKER BECAUSE OF THE SIGNIFICANCE AND THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO PUT ON OUR AGENDA FOR NEXT MEETING IN AUGUST TO DISCUSS. AND I WILL BRING MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IT IF YOU ARE GOOD WITH THAT. IT IS REALLY QUITE AMAZING. AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT IS THE MUSEUM. WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THE BOARD I KNOW YOU WERE ALL VERY ACTIVE IN WORKING AT THE MUSEUM. IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE AND OF COURSE BELLA IS NEW AND YOU KNOW WHERE IT IS, BUT FOR ALL OF US TO BE ABLE TO GO THERE AND SEE
WHAT IS IN THE MUSEUM AND IS IT MANNED EVERY SUNDAY? >> 2 TO 5.
>> I HAVE NEVER BEEN. >> AND SO I THINK -- EVERY SUNDAY?
>> EXCEPT HOLIDAYS. >> I THINK I'M GOING TO ATTEND. WHO IS MANNING IT?
>> WE HAVE SOMEONE ON THE SCHEDULE FOR EVERY SUNDAY. >> SHE IS THE CHAIRMAN AND SHE
DOES THE ROTATION. >> I THINK WE SHOULD BE MORE INVOLVED IN THAT.
WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT. >> I LIKE IT. >> WONDERFUL.
ONE THUPBG I -- ONE THING I WILL SAY THOUGH IS I AM RETIRED NAVY. MY ONLY COMMITMENT IS I HAVE TO DO THE DISHES. I CAN MEET ANYBODY OUT THERE ANY TIME ON ANY DAY OF THE WEEK TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON I CAN TAKE THEM. PEOPLE HAVE FAMILY GET TOGETHERS AND THEY HAVE EIGHT FAMILY MEMBERS AND THEY SEND ME A MESSAGE, CAN YOU POSSIBLY -- SURE. I WILL BE OUT THERE. I GO OUT THERE AND LET THEM LOOK AROUND AND SEE THE WHOLE CABOOSE AND THE COUNTY JAIL SOMETIMES I ACCIDENTALLY LOCK PEOPLE IN THE
JAIL. IT IS QUITE ENTERTAINING. >> I JUST THINK THAT SOMETHING WEE SHOULD INCORPORATE -- IF WE WERE DOING IT IN THE PAST WE SHOULD PICK IT BACK UP AGAIN.
>> DON'T I HAVE TO CALL TARA? THAT'S WHO I CALLED IN THE PAST. IT WAS SOMEONE SCHEDULING.
>> DO YOU HAVE AN EMAIL ADDRESS? >> IF I'M ALLOWED TO DO THAT. >> YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO
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CONTACT RANDY ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE ARE VOTING ON.>> YEAH. >> THAT'S NOT SUNSHINE LAW, IS IT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AS LONG AS YOU DON'T DISCUSS A MATTER COMING BEFORE THIS
COURT. >> 904-505-4827. I HAVE ALL OF THE KEYS RIGHT HERE. I CAN GET YOU INTO THE CABOOSE AND THE OLD JAIL.
>> I THINK WE ALL SHOULD BE EXPOSED TO THAT. >> FOR SURE.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD ALL LEARN ABOUT IT. >> A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WE ACTUALLY HAD A PRETTY BIG GHOST HUNTING TOUR THERE. AND THEY ATTRACTED A HUNDRED
PEOPLE I GUESS. >> WOW, THAT'S GREAT. >> YEAH, IT WAS.
THEY VERIFIED WHAT WE HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN, THAT THERE IS DEFINITELY PARANORMAL ACTIVITY GOING ON INSIDE THE OLD JAIL. I HANG OUT IN THERE ALL THE TIME.
ANYWAY, IT IS PRETTY NEAT AND REALLY AMAZING AND IT IS PART OF OUR HISTORY.
IT IS ONE OF THE VERY BEGINNINGS OF OUR HISTORY. ANYWAY, IF YOU HAVE ANY FAMILY MEMBERS OR IF YOU JUST WANT TO MEET OUT THERE, JUST SHOOT ME AN EMAIL.
>> WE WILL BE THERE ON SUNDAY. >> STPHEU -- ANY COMMENTS? >> I ACTUALLY WANTED TO ASK ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON WITH MAUD AND THE SCHOOLHOUSE? JUST BECAUSE I'M CURIOUS *FPL --
CURIOUS. >> MAUD JACKSON HAS BEEN ILL WITH SOME ISSUES.
WE ARE CONTINUING TO TALK TO FAMILY MEMBERS AND A FEW PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED MIDDLEBURG COLLEGE SCHOOL. PEOPLE IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY ARE GETTING TOGETHER FOR A JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION ON THE 19TH OF JUNE AND WHILE I WON'T BE THERE, THEY WILL BE HAVING A CELEBRATION AND SEEING IF THEY CAN CULTIVATE NEW CONTACTS WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT THE MUSEUM. WE HAVE A GOAL TO HAVE THE DRAFT TAX BY THE END OF JUNE AND SERIOUS DRAFT BY THE END OF JULY SO THAT WHEN WE COME BACK IN AUGUST THAT TEXT SHOULD BE READY
FOR THE BOARD TO TAKE A LOOK. >> FOR THE MARKER? >> FOR THE MARKER.
AS FAR AS PRESERVING THE BUILDING, WE HAVE NOT HEARD YET, AT LEAST I HAVEN'T HEARD YET WHETHER OR NOT THE GRANT HAS BEEN FUNDED. THAT WAS WRITTEN BY THE COUNTY IN ORDER TO HAVE A HISTORICAL ARCHITECT COME OUT AND EXAMINE THE MUSEUM FOR STRUCTURAL
INTEGRITY. >> IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO GO TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS? OR DOES THAT COME OUT OF OUR BUDGET?
>> NO. THIS COMES FROM THE STATE. >> OH FROM THE STATE.
>> OUR GRANTS DIVISION HAS TAKEN THAT ON SEPARATELY. THAT WAS NOT PART OF YOUR
BUDGET. >> WE HAVE LOST A FEW BUILDINGS TO TERMITE DAMAGE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THE COLONIAL INN OR BEFORE THAT THE RHINEHART MANSION.
THE INTENT WAS TO PRESERVE THAT AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH TERMITE DAMAGE
TO EVERYTHING ELSE. >> AND ONE MORE THING. I WANTED TO ASK MATT, REMEMBER THE THE FIRST TIME I -- I THINK IT WAS THE FIRST MEETING I CAME OR SECOND, AND SISON CAME AND IT WAS A MAN AND HE TALKED ABOUT FINDING NATIVE AMERICAN ARTIFACTS OR SOMETHING IN HIS YARD. DO YOU HAVE HIS CONTACT OR DID YOU EVER GET IT?
>> NO. I DON'T THINK I EVER HAD IT. >> DO WE HAVE THE NAME OF HIM?
>> LET ME CHECK AND SEE IF I HAVE ANY INFORMATION. I'M NOT SURE.
I INVITED HIM TO COME TO THE MEETING BECAUSE I THOUGHT HE MIGHT SHARE THE INTEREST OF HISTORY AND I THOUGHT HE WOULD ENJOY THE CONNECTION OF MEETING YOU ALL.
I'M NOT SURE I HAVE HIS INFORMATION. >> IF YOU DO, AND HOPEFULLY I
CAN GET INTO CONTACT WITH HIM. >> OKAY. >> I CAN EMAIL.
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>> IS THERE ANY OTHER MEMBER -- ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY.
>> DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >> OH YES. >> MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.