[INVOCATION] [00:00:06] INVOCATION FIGHT , COMMISSIONE COMPERE. >> GRACIOUS GOD, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS DAY. THANK YOU, GOD, FOR EVERY OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE TO COME TOGETHER , AND TO ADDRESS THE MATTERS OF CLAY COUNTY. WE PRAY, LORD, THAT YO GIVE US THE GUIDANCE, DIRECTION WISDOM, AND SITE AND KNOWLEDG TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS AT THE RIGHT TIME . WE THANK YOU, LORD, FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL COUNTY AND ALL OF THOSE WHO MAKE A GREAT. THANK YOU TO THE NEIGHBORS, RIGHT? WE ARE JUST SO, SO GRATEFUL, GOD, FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE, AND EVERYTHING WE GET TO ENJOY. EVERY BLESSING. BE WITH US TONIGHT. PLEASE, LORD, KEEP US SAFE. WE THANK YOU AND LOVE YO LORD, IN THE NAME OF JESUS, AMEN. >> AMEN. OKAY, OUR VETERAN LED PLEDGE TODAY IS GOING TO BE BY LIEUTENANT COLONEL ERICK SAKS HE LISTED AS A PUBLIC AFFAIRS SPECIALIST FOR MORE THAN SIX YEARS BEFORE RECEIVING HIS COMMISSION. DURING HIS SERVICE, HE COMPLETED SPECIALIZED WING MISSIONS, MAJOR COMMAND MISSIONS, OR MATCH, , AND AIR STAFF AND JOINT STAFF ASSIGNMENTS. DID I PRONOUNCE THAT RIGHT? LIEUTENANT COLONEL ERICK SAKS AND SERVED TWICE IN AFGHANISTAN , INCLUDING A ONE-YEAR TOUR OF PROVINCIAL INSTRUCTION TEAM. HE ALSO SUPPORTED OPERATION LIFELINE I PAKISTAN , A TWO-PART COMBINED JOINT TASK FORCE IN AFRICA , A JOINT TASK FORCE SHORT-LIVED I WEST AFRICA, AND OPERATION NO MAN'S SHADOW IN TURKEY. PRIOR TO HIS LAST ASSIGNMENT, LIEUTENANT COLONEL ERICK SAKS WAS PART OF THE 22ND TRAINING SUPPORT SQUADRON . HE RECEIVED NUMEROUS AWARDS AND MEDALS DURING HIS CAREER, INCLUDING A BRONZE STAR, DEFENSE MERITORIOU SERVICE MEDAL, JOINT SERVICE ACCOMMODATION, AIR FORCE COMMENDATION MEDAL , AIR FORCE ACHIEVEMENT MEDAL, ARMY ACHIEVEMENT MEDAL, AND AIR FORC COMBAT ACTION METAL. HE IS A NATIVE OF ST. JOHN'S, FLORIDA, BUT WORKS CLOSELY WITH VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS IN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY, AND IS NOW SERVING OUR COMMUNITY AS A FOUNDER AND OPERATOR OF OPERATION LIFELINE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE . AFTER YOU GIVE US THE PLEDGE, I YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU. THANK YOU. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDE GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AN JUSTICE FOR ALL. WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE, AND T BE PART OF THIS. I WILL TELL YO THAT SINCE RETIRING, I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIND MY PLACE, AND I FOUNDED A NONPROFIT WORK, SPECIFICALLY WORKING WITH VETERANS AND THE VETERANS COUNCIL HERE IN CLAY COUNTY. I WILL TELL YOU THAT HE GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK IN SEVERAL COUNTIES TO DO WHAT I AM DOING, AND I LOVE WORKING HERE SPECIFICALLY. I LIKE HOW OPEN EVERYBODY IS, SUPPOSEDLY WITH VETERAN ISSUES. I LOVE HOW PROACTIVE YOUR COUNSEL IS , AND WE ARE REALLY EXCITED. WE HAVE FEW PROGRAMS IN PLACE RIGHT NOW. WE'RE ACTUALLY BUILDING SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE IN GREEN HOPE SPRINGS. THAT'S MY CONSTRUCTION COMPANY. AS LIFELINE GOES, WE ARE HOPING TO BUILD MORE HOUSING FOR VETERANS AND REHAB PROJECTS, AND JUST IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU . [CALL TO ORDER] [PET ADOPTIONS] BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING FOR MAY 9TH, 2023. LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT, AND WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH PET ADOPTIONS. >> SO, TODAY WILL BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE PHOTOS OF OUR PETS, BUT, BELIEVE ME, WE HAVE ANIMALS THA NEED TO BE ADOPTED AT OUR SHELTER . CATS, DOGS, YOU NAME IT. THEY ARE LOOKING FOR HOMES, THE SUMMER IS COMING, AND THE KIDS WILL BE HOME, AND MAYBE THAT WILL BE THE TIME TO GET YO A CAT OR A DOG, AND LET THEM BE A PART OF YOUR FAMILY. BUT, I [00:05:02] WILL REMIND YOU, AS ALWAYS, IT IS KITTEN TIME. IF YOU WANT TO JOIN OUR KITCHEN CREW, WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR FOSTERS. IF YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT, YOU CAN EMAIL US AT -- . WE AR ALWAYS LOOKING FOR ITEMS TO FOSTER OUR KITTENS AND SHELTER ANIMALS. THAT WOULD BE AT AMAZON.COM. THAT WILL BE IT FOR [Warren "Sammy" Pendleton - Public Safety] TODAY. >> THANK YOU. IF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WOULD JOIN US DOW FRONT, WE HAVE TWO SPECIAL STAF RECOGNITIONS, AND THEN, THREE PROCLAMATIONS AND DECLARATIONS WE WILL BE DOWN FOR A WILD. OKAY, OUR FIRST SPECIAL STAFF RECOGNITION IS THE PROMOTION OF WARREN "SAMMY" PENDLETON. HE STARTED AS A FIREFIGHTER EMT PARAMEDIC. HE WAS RECENTLY PROMOTED TO CAPTAIN , AND IS SERVING THE COMMUNITY AND THE RESCUE UNIT STATION IN THE PARK AREA. WE ARE HERE TO HELP CONGRATULATE HIM ON HIS PROMOTION. >> THANK YOU. WE WILL GET SAMM AND HIS WIFE APPEAR. DAVID IS GOING TO DO THE HONORS OF PRESENTING THE BAD BADGE , AND ACCOUTREMENTS OF THE CHIEF POSITION TO HIS WIFE, AND THEN SHE WILL DO WITH THE PENDING. AND WE INSTRUCTED HER AHEAD OF TIME, AS WE SAID TO EVERYBODY, BLOOD IS OKAY. SHE SEEMED OKAY WITH THAT TOO. HE JOINED US IN 2016, AND BY 2017, HE WAS AN ENGINEER. TWO YEARS LATER, HE WAS A LIEUTENANTS, AND NOW, WE FIND OURSELVES IN 2023 AS A CAPTAIN. HE IS TAKE OVER THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE NEW RESCU UNIT IN THE ORANGE PARK AREA. IT WOULD BE FAIR TO SAY THAT CAPTAIN PENDLETON MOVES FAST. W WOULD NOT WANT TO BE BEHIND HIM ON A TEST . YOU'RE PRETTY GOOD AT THIS, CAPTAIN. OKAY. WELL, THAT MAY BE. YEP. IT IS CERTAINLY GOOD IN A DEPARTMENT WHERE YOUNG OFFICERS ARE IN RULE. WE APPRECIATE PEOPLE LIK CAPTAIN PENDLETON MOVING UP THROUGH THE RANKS. WE CERTAINLY NEEDED AS WE EXPAND. I WILL SA AS SHE IS FINISHING, HE ALSO SERVES ON THE 218. HE HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE COMMITTEE MEDICINE PROGRAM. HE SERVES ON BOTH THE OPERATIONS AND HAZMAT TEAMS. HE IS AN ALL HAZARDS PERSON. VERY GOOD. OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO DO THE HARD PART NOW. WILL HE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SWEAR YOU IN? I, STAT YOUR NAME, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE POSITION OF CAPTAIN , SETTING A GOOD EXAMPLES AND ALL ACTIONS AND DEEDS . I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES , AND THE STATE O FLORIDA , AND THE LAWS AND ORDINANCES OF CLAY COUNTY. AND WILL, TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITIES SERVE AND PROTECT THE CITIZENS AND VISITORS OF THIS COMMUNITY , AND THE DISCHARGE OF MY DUTIES, SO HELP ME GOD. CONGRATULATIONS. [David "Mike" Jammes - Traffic Division] [00:10:01] RETIREMENT, WHICH IS ALWAYS MOR FUN FOR THE RETIREE THAN FOR US WE HAVE THE RETIREMENT OF DAVID "MIKE" JAMMES FROM THE TRAFFIC DIVISION. MIKE JAMMES IS RETIRING AFTER NEARLY 33 YEARS OF SERVICE TO CLAY COUNTY. HE BEGAN HIS CAREER OF NOVEMBER OF 1990 AS A SENIOR SIGNAL TECHNICIAN, AND IS LEAVING US A A TRAFFIC SIGNAL COORDINATOR I THE TRAFFIC DIVISION. THAT MEANS NO MORE TRAFFIC LIGHTS WILL WORK FOR A WHILE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY YEARS OF SERVICE TO CLAY COUNTY. WE WIS YOU ALL OF THE BEST IN RETIREMENT. WE HAVE RICHARD SMITH, OUR DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING, AND CHARISSE, ARE YOU COMING UP, CHARISSE? I THOUGHT YOU WERE ON THE MOVE. I DIDN'T KNOW. >> THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS IN LIFE WE TAKE FOR GRANTED. THE SUN IS COMING UP. AT SOME POINT THAT LIGHT WILL TURN GREEN. MIKE IS THE REASON THAT HAS WORKED SMOOTHLY IN THIS COUNTY FOR THE PAST 15 OR 20 YEARS. HE'S DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB. HE WILL BE DIFFICULT TO REPLACE . MIKE, I GUESS HE WILL BE COMPLAINING ABOUT 218 AND PLANNING ANYMORE, EXCEPT PERSONALLY, BECAUSE HE LIVES THERE. BUT, MIKE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU HAVE MADE MY JOB VERY EASY. IT'S A VERY IMPORTAN PART OF THE COUNTY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT THAT I HAVE NEVER HA TO WORRY ABOUT. SO, MIKE, DAVID, THERE YOU GO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SA A FEW WORDS. >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO IF YOU DON'T WANT TO. >> IT IS UNLISTED. >> JUST TO CLEAR A FEW THINGS UP, I HAVE BEEN WORKING SIGNAL FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS. I DID A LO OF BALLPARK DESIGN . >> THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU. >> BALLPARK DESIGN,AND OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTY. I HAVE WORKED WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT, AND AS WELL AS MY STAFF, WE WORKED WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, RECREATION DEPARTMENT , AND ENDED UP IN TRAFFIC SIGNALS. JUST SO YOU KNOW, MY WIFE JUST WALKED IN , AND THAT IS BECAUSE SHE COULD NOT GET THROUGH THE LIGHTS IN MIDDLEBURG. STILL WORKING ON THAT. BUT, IT IS BEEN GREAT WORKING FOR THE COUNTY, IT HAS BEEN A GREAT CAREER. I'VE GOT A LOT OF FRIENDS, MADE A LOT OF FRIENDS SOME, UNFORTUNATELY, HAVE PASSE ON, AND OTHERS HAVE MOVED. SO, WILL STAY IN TOUCH. SOME OF YO HAVE MY PERSONAL NUMBER, SOME D NOT. SO, THAT IS ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> WHILE WE ARE WAITING , NO ON MENTIONED THE BACKFILL. RICHARD? NO ONE MENTIONED A BACKFILL. CAN YOU REASSURE THE RESIDENCE THAT WE WILL HAVE ONE? I KNOW THEY ARE BIG SHOES TO FILL, BUT HOPEFULLY, YOU HAV A PLAN. >> YES, WE HAVE A PLAN. THEY ARE BIG SHOES. ARE YOU READY TO TAKE OVER? NOT REALLY. WE HAVE PROMOTED JESSE FROM ESA . HE HAS 20 YEARS EXPERIENCE IN THE DEPARTMENT, AND IN CHARLOTTE AN RALEIGH. SO, WE'VE GOT SOME LEARNING CURVES. IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT STATE, BUT HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET HIM ON BOARD QUICKLY , AND KEEP THING MOVING SMOOTHLY. NOT ONLY IS A CLAY COUNTY, IT IS ALSO KEYSTONE , GREEN COVE, AND ORANGE PARK ALL DEPENDING ON THESE SIGNALS, WHETHER THEY ARE ON THE COUNTY ROAD, OR PLANNING BOULEVARD, THOSE OF OPEN MICS. SO, WE DO HAVE A PLAN TO GO FORWARD. WE ARE NOT JUST GOING TO LET YOU GUYS -- IT WILL BE OKAY. [1.  Clay County History Month & National Historic Preservation Month (May 2023)] PROCLAMATIONS, WE HAVE CLAY COUNTY HISTORY MONTH AND NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH. MAY IS CLAY COUNTY HISTORY MONTH AND NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH. [00:15:02] CLAY COUNTY HAS AN AMAZING HISTORY OF MILITARY SERVICE , HISTORICAL STRUCTURES, AND A WA OF LIFE THREADED DEEP THROUGH OUR WATERWAYS. TO HELP US CELEBRATE THE HISTORY OF CLAY COUNTY, WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CLA COUNTY CLERK OF THE COURT HISTORICAL ARCHIVES DIVISION, AND CLAY COUNTY DISTRICT SCHOOLS HERE WHO PARTNER EACH YEAR TO PRESENT TH CELEBRATE CLAY COUNTY HISTORY CURRICULUM AND OUR CLASSROOMS, AND ALSO COORDINATE DOZENS OF CLASS STORES YEAR-ROUND , ALONG WITH BACK-TO-SCHOOL TEACHER TRAINING EACH AUGUST. WE ALSO HAVE MEMBERS OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD HERE, AND TH VILLAGE IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION , THE LONGEST SERVING WOMAN'S CLUB IN FLORIDA. PLEASE JOIN U UP FRONT FOR THE PROCLAMATION. WE HAVE LARRY AND STUTZ AND AMELIA DIXON , MARIANNE ELLEN, AND JERRY. JERRY, YOU HAVE SOM OF THE PEOPLE HE WILL INTRODUCE TO US AS WELL? YOU CAN COME ON IN THE MIDDLE. VICE CHAIR RENNINGER WILL READ THE PROCLAMATION, AND YOU CAN SAY A FEW WORDS. >> LET ME READ THE PROCLAMATION FOR THE HISTORY MONTH HERE. WHERE IS A HISTORY OF CLAY COUNTY DATES GOES BACK TO 858 WHERE A "DISTRICT OF DUVAL COUNTY WAS DESIGNATED AS AN INDEPENDENT COUNTY BY FORD AS GOVERNOR AND NAMED AFTER HENRY CLAY , OUR NATION'S SEVENTH SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, AND NINTH SECRETARY OF STATE. WHEREAS EARLY SETTLERS AT HOMES, FARMS GREEN COVE SPRINGS, IT WAS -- THE ROARING 20S BROUGHT PLANT COMMUNITIES TOO MANY FARMS, KEYSTONE HEIGHTS, AND THE BANKS OF ST. JOHN'S RIVER, WHERE A DESTINATION FOR VISITORS WAS, AND WHERE IS CLAY COUNTY SCENIC WATERWAYS CONTINUE TO ATTRACT RESIDENTS AND VISITORS TODAY I THE CREEKS, LAKES, SWAMPS, BASINS, AND TRIBUTARIES WE LIVE AMONG, LIKE OUR HISTORY CONNECT US ALL. WHEREAS EACH MAY, CLAY COUNTY DISTRICT SCHOOLS PARTNER WITH CLAY COUNTY CLERK OF COURT ARCHIVES CENTER, AND LOCAL HISTORY CHURCH TO PRESENT THE CELEBRATE CLAY COUNTY HISTORY CURRICULUM TO THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS SO THAT THEY CAN LEAR TO APPRECIATE THE GEOGRAPHY AND EVENTS THAT HAVE SHAPED OUR COUNTRY AND COUNTY, AND WHEREAS THE MONTH OF MAY IS ALSO RECOGNIZED AS NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH , A TIME TO CELEBRATE THE ROLE OF HISTORY I OUR LIVES , AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY THOSE DEDICATED TO PRESERVING TANGIBL ASPECTS OF THE HERITAGE THAT HAVE SHAPED US AS PEOPLE , FOSTER LOCAL PRIDE, AND GIVING CHARACTER TO OUR COMMUNITIES. NOW THEREFORE, THE RESULT OF TH BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS CLAY COUNTY FLORIDA DOES HERE PROCLAIM MAY, 2023 IS CLAY COUNTY HISTORY MONTH, DULY ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COUNTY, FLORIDA, THE NINTH OF MAY, 2023. TO HAVE A MOTION? I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> SO BE IT. THE PROCLAMATION IS NOW IN MOTION. WHO WANTS TO SPEAK FIRST? >> I AM THE CURRENT PRESIDENT O THE ASSOCIATION. WE ARE THE OLDEST CLUB IN FLORIDA , AND WE DO PRIDE OURSELVES ON THAT. ACTUALLY, OUR BUILDING IS THE OLDEST BUILDING THAT IS STILL BEING USED FOR WHAT IT WAS CURRENTLY INTENDED TO BE USED FOR. SO, WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THAT. WE DO HAVE A LOT OF ARTIFACTS , AND WE ALSO HAVE AL OF THE MINUTES FOR MEETINGS BAC IN THE 1800S . ANYTIME A LOOK OVER THEM, I SEE A NAME THAT YOU CAN RECOGNIZE IT AND ATTACH IT TO SOMEBODY CURRENTLY, SO, THAT IS NEED AS WELL. WE WOULD OFFER YOU TO COME INTO HER OUR BUILDING, AND OUR GOAL NOW IS T BE OF MORE SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY WITH THE MANAGING CENTER, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF SERVICE PROJECTS. AS WE LOOK TO DO WITH OUR TIME. SO, THANK YOU THE SOCIAL STUDIES SPECIALIST , AND I AM DELIGHTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PHENOMENAL COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CLAY COUNTY DISTRICT SCHOOLS AND THE CLERK OF COURTS. TOGETHER, WE WORK TO BRING LOCAL HISTORY TO OUR STUDENTS IN A VERY MEANINGFUL WAY. CLAY COUNTY HA A VERY RICH HISTORY, AND WE ARE PROUD TO SHARE THAT WITH OUR STUDENTS. THROUGH THIS ONGOING COLLABORATION WITH THE CLERK OF COURTS, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CREATE ENGAGING LESSON PLANS AN EXPERIENCES THAT INCORPORATE LOCAL HISTORIES INTO OUR CURRICULUM. THE CLERK OF COURT HAS BEEN AN INVALUABLE PARTNER IN PROVIDING US WITH ACCESS TO HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS AND LOCATIONS, SUCH AS THE NORTH TRIANGLE, AND THAT HELPS US BRING THE PAST TO LIFE , NOT ONLY FOR OUR STUDENTS, BUT ALSO FOR OUR TEACHERS. THEY HAVE ALS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING U IDENTIFY LOCAL EXPERT WHO CAN SPEAK TO OUR TEACHER AND STUDENTS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE [00:20:03] OF BEING ENGAGED CITIZENS. SOMETHING THAT IS OF A SPECIAL IMPORTANCE TO SUPERINTENDENT ROSKI. WORKING WITH ARCHIVES AND HISTORIANS, WE ARE ABLE TO CREATE THE CLAY HISTORY PROJECT THAT ENSURES THAT ALL STUDENTS LEAVE SCHOOL KNOWING THE STORY THE COMMUNITY OF CLAY COUNTY. THIS PROJECT EXPOSES STUDENTS TO LOCAL, PRIMARY, AND SECONDAR SOURCES THAT HELP THEM TO ANSWE THE QUESTION, WHAT HAD THE GREATEST IMPACT ON THE DEVELOPING OF CLAY COUNTY? WIT THIS PROJECT, WITH RESOURCES FROM CLAY ARCHIVIST --, WE DO CRITICALLY CONNECTIONS INTO SEVERAL OF OUR U.S. HISTORY UNITS, WHICH ALLOWS OUR STUDENT TO OBSERVE LOCAL EVENTS DURING SPECIFIC MOMENTS IN OUR COUNTRY'S HISTORY. SO, THANK YOU TO THE CLERK OF COURTS FOR THEIR SUPPORT AND PARTNERSHIP IN THIS EFFORT. CLAY COUNTY DISTRICT SCHOOLS LOOKS FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK TOGETHER TO BRING HISTORY OF OUR COMMUNITY TO LIFE FOR OUR STUDENTS. >> I AM CURRENTLY THE CHAIR OF THE HISTORIC RESERVATION BOARD WHICH IS A BODY OF CITIZENS WH APPLIED FOR THE POSITION OF SEEING TO THE HISTORY OF THE COUNTY IS PRESERVED, AND HOPEFULLY, PUBLICIZED BEFORE THE WRECKING BALL TAKES MORE O THESE HISTORIC THINGS DOWN. WE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF MAKIN SURE HISTORIC EVENTS THAT ARE WELL DOCUMENTABLE ARE DOCUMENTED BY STATE OR COUNTY MARKERS. WHAT REMAINS TO BE CONCENTRATED ON THE OTHER PART OF OUR CHARTER, WHICH IS TO TRY TO PRESERVE HISTORIC STRUCTURES WHILE THEY STILL CAN BE HELPED . THOSE COMMUNITIES IN FLORIDA THAT HAVE MANAGED TO DO THIS USUALLY REAP A LOT OF REWARDS FOR PEOPLE HAVING EVIDENCE OF THE HISTORY OF THE PLACE THEY ARE LIVING. IT ATTRACTS TOURISM AND ALL OF THE REST. BUT, TO DO THIS, GIVEN THE VARIOUS KINDS OF LAWS THAT HAVE TO BE SATISFIED , WE NEED A GOOD RUNNING START FOR THESE THINGS. WE ARE GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE FUTURE, THIS WILL INVOLV MORE CONNECTION WITH THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE COUNTY , BUT ALSO, WITH THE CITIZEN BODY . WE HAVE ENCOURAGED CITIZENS T ATTEND OUR MEETINGS . WE ALSO ENCOURAGE THEM TO GIVE INPUT, AND ARE AWARE OF THINGS THAT AR GOING ON THAT NEED TO BE GIVEN ATTENTION IN A TIMELY MATTER T ENSURE THAT OUR HISTORY IS PRESERVED IN THAT WAY. SO, APPLY FOR THESE POSITIONS TO JOIN US ON THE BOARD, AND ALSO, LET US HEAR FROM YOU WHEN YOU CAN. THANK YOU. YEAR? >> ] [2.  Motorcycle Safety Awareness Month (May 2023)] THOSE . OUR NEXT PROCLAMATION I FOR MOTORCYCLE SAFETY AWARENESS MONTH TO HELP RAISE AWARENESS OF THE IMPORTANCE OF SHARING TH ROAD WITH MOTORCYCLISTS. WE HAV A PROCLAMATION FOR MOTORCYCLE SAFETY AWARENESS MONTH. MEMBERS OF THE AMERICAN BIKERS AIM TOWARDS EDUCATION CHAPTER, AN BIKERS AGAINST CHILD ABUSE ARE HERE TODAY TO EXIT THE PROCLAMATION. YOU MUST BE TRACY. COME ON UP, TRACY. IS BENDER HERE? HE IS PROBABLY AT THAT SAME TRAFFIC LIGHT. OH, I AM SO SORRY. WELL, TRAN I WIL READ THE PROCLAMATION, AND WE WILL ALLOW YOU TO SAY A FEW WORDS. >> WHEREAS 1 MILLION PEOPLE ENJOY MOTORCYCLE RIDING IN FLORIDA , AND WHEREAS IT IS IMPORTANT THAT DRIVERS OF ALL VEHICLES BE AWARE OF ONE ANOTHE , LEARN TO SHARE THE ROAD, AND PRACTICE SAFE DRIVING AND WRITING SKILLS TO HELP REDUCE THE NUMBER OF FATALITIES AND [00:25:03] INJURIES ON OUR ROADWAYS, AND WHEREAS , THE AMERICAN BIKERS AIM TOWARDS EDUCATION OF FLORID IS AN ORGANIZATION , THERE HE IS, THAT ACTIVELY REPORTS SAY VEHICLE OPERATION, INCREASED WRITER TRAINING, AND INCREASE MOTORIST AWARENESS OF MOTORCYCLES IN CLAY COUNTY AND THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA WHEREAS IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR AWARENES ON THE PART OF ALL DRIVERS , ESPECIALLY WHEN SHARING THE RESERVOIR TO CYCLES. BE IT RESOLVED, CLAY COUNTY 4DOT DOES CLAIM 2023 OF MAY MOTORCYCLE SAFETY AWARENESS MONTH, AND FOR MEMBERS TO BE BRING THAT MOTORCYCLISTS ARE HARD TO SEE, SELECT WAYS TO SAV A LIFE. DULY ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY FLORIDA, THIS NINTH OF MAY, 2023. TO HAVE A MOTION? >> SO MOVED. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> IT IS UNANIMOUS. >> MY LOVELY COHORT OVER HERE I BENDER. THE MAIN THING TO SAVE LIVES IS WATCH FOR US. SHARE THE ROAD WITH US. I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF IDIOTS OUT THERE, AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PEOPL WHO DRIVE CARS, I AM TALKING ABOUT OTHER MOTORCYCLISTS. I HAVE SEEN IT. THEY DO NOT FOLLO THE LAWS. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT I IN INDY GROUP. WE ARE FIGHTING TO GET MORE HELP FROM THE STATE TO GET OUR MONEY BACK FROM THE STATE THAT WE ONCE HAD . WE NEE POSTERS, MORE SAFETY BOOTHS GOING INTO SCHOOLS. THERE ARE LOT OF KIDS WHO WANT TO GET MOTORCYCLE LICENSES . IT'S CHEA ON GAS. YOU CAN GO FAST. OKAY, YES, IT CAN GO FAST. BUT, IF YO DON'T KNOW HOW TO WRITE IT, AND YOU DON'T LEARN HOW TO WRITE IT AND SHARE THE ROAD, YOUR LIFE WILL BE OVER. I HAVE A 16-YEAR-OLD GRANDCHILD. SHE HA BEEN ON A BIKE SINCE SHE WAS SI MONTHS OLD. WRITING SINCE SHE WAS SEVEN. SHE KNOWS THE LAWS, SHE KNOW SHE'S BETTER HAS BOOT ON, SHE KNOWS SHE BETTER HAVE BOOTS ON, SHE KNOWS TO HAVE A HELMET ON, AND THAT IS THE LAW FOR ANYONE UNDER THE AGE OF 21. SHE KNOWS THESE AND PRACTICES THEM. AND SHE WANTS A BIKE. SHE IS NOW 16. GRANDMA, COME I HAVE A BIKE? I WANT TO LEARN HOW TO DRIVE. WHERE WE LIVE, I DO NOT HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF LIVING I CLAY COUNTY. IT IS A BEAUTIFUL COUNTY. UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF LIVING IN DEVOL. THAT IS A VERY BUSY COUNTY. THERE ARE MORE AND MORE CARS AND VEHICLES IN BOTH COUNTY ALL THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA. IF WE DON'T GET OU THERE AND TEACH OUR CHILDREN TO SHARE THE ROAD, AND ADULTS TO SHARE THE ROAD WITH THE MOTORCYCLISTS , WE WILL BE CUTTING A LOT OF LIVES SHORT. THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY. [3.  National Tourism Week, (May 7-13, 2023)] FOR NATIONAL TRAVEL AND TOURIS WEEK, MAY 7TH THROUGH 13TH 2023. NATIONAL TRAVEL AND TOURISM WEEK IS MAY 7TH THROUGH INDUSTRY TRADITION CELEBRATES THE VALLEY TRAVEL HOLDS FOR OUR ECONOMY. THIS YEAR MARKS THE 40TH ANNIVERSARY OF TRAVEL AND TOURISM WEEK. MEMBERS OF OUR CLAY COUNTY TOURS AND EVOLVING COUNSEL ARE HERE TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION. KIMBERLY MORGAN I [00:30:01] OUR DIRECTOR OF TOURISM AND FIL DEVELOPMENT. PLEASE JOIN US UP FRONT, AND THEN AFTER THE COMMISSIONER READS THE PROCLAMATION, I WILL INTRODUCE ALL OF YOU WHO IS HERE TODAY. >> IT IS MY PRIVILEGE TO READ THE PROCLAMATION , WHERE IS THE TRAVEL INDUSTRY FUELS ESSENTIAL ASSETS TO OUR COMMUNITY , AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE A STRONG PART OF CLAY COUNTY'S DEVELOPMENT WORKFORCE , AND WHEREAS TRAVEL IS AN ECONOMIC POWERHOUSE FOR EVERY STATE AND DESTINATION ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH AN ECONOMIC OUTPUT OF $2,600,000,000,000.00 AND 2022 SUPPORTING SOME 14.5 MILLION AMERICAN JOBS, AND WERE TRAVEL SPENDING SUPPORTS VIBRANT AND SAFE COMMUNITIES IN FLORIDA AND ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, AND GENERATED $84,000,000,000.00 I STATE AND LOCAL TAX REVENUE LAS YEAR TO SUPPORT SERVICES SUCH AS EDUCATION, EMERGENCY RESPONSE, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND MORE. WHEREAS IN CLAY COUNTY, TOURS AND GENERATED MORE THAN $23,000,000.00 IN STATE AND LOCAL COAT IN 2021, AND INVESTMENTS IN OUR COUNTY SAVE THE RESIDENCE NEARLY $300.00 ANNUALLY. AND THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY FLORIDA DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 7TH TO THE 13TH 2023 AS TRAVEL AND TOURISM WEE IN CLAY COUNTY. ALL RESINS OF CLAY COUNTY WILL JOIN US IN RECOGNIZING TRAVEL AS AN ESSENTIAL INDUSTRY THAT LEADS TO ECONOMIC GROWTH, THRIVING BUSINESSES, AND ENHANCED QUALIT OF LIFE. DULY ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, THIS NINTH OF MAY, 2023. TO HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT? THERE IS A MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY I? >> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> IT IS OFFICIALLY NATIONAL TOURISM WEEK IN CLAY COUNTY. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH KURT FOR RECOGNIZING THE TOURISM INDUSTR HERE IN CLAY COUNTY. WE HAVE GOT HERE THE TOURISM TEAM, CAROLINE AVRIL, AND CONNOR MATTHEWS. WE JUST COUNTED A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE THE BUSINESSES, THE SMALL BUSINESSES, THE MOM AND POP RESTAURANTS, THE SMALL-TOWN BOUTIQUES, AND JUST THE TOURISM RELATED BUSINESSES . THERE IS HUNDREDS OF THEM THROUGHOUT OU COUNTY, AND WE HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO TELL THEIR STORY. WE ALSO HAVE DEBBIE BEALS WHO SERVES AS -- THERE IS A NINE-MEMBER TBC BOARD , IT IS A COMMITTEE OF THE BOARD OF COUNT COMMISSIONERS, AND DEBBIE PROUDLY SERVES ON THAT , AND WE THANK HER FOR HER SERVICE AND ARE PRESENT IN THE INDUSTRY. AN THEN, WE ALSO HAVE SOME SPECIAL GUESTS TODAY. WE HAVE ADRIAN AN LAURA FROM ADVANCED TRAVEL AND TOURISM. NO PRESSURE, BUT THEI CONTRACT IS UP FOR YOUR VOTE O TODAY'S CONSENT AGENDA, BUT THE WANTED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT CLAY COUNTY , AND HELPING US TELL TH STORY. TOURISM IS ABOUT STORYTELLING, AND MAKING SURE THAT IT IS AN ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR OUR RESIDENTS . IT IS A GREAT INDUSTRY TO WORK IN, AND WE JUST APPRECIATE THE RECOGNITION OF NATIONAL TOURIS . [4.  National Public Works Week (May 21-27, 2023)] OFHAVING THEM. NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK'S IS MAY 21ST THROUGH 27TH 2023 . OUR PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS PLAY A CRITICAL ROLE IN MAINTAINING RESILIENT COMMUNITIES AND PROTECTING OUR PUBLIC HEALTH AN HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE . WE WISH TO RECOGNIZE THEIR HARD WORK AN DEDICATION FOR A DECLARATION OF NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK ON MAY 21ST THROUGH THE 27TH, 2023 . IF YOU SEE A PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEE, TELL THEM THANK YOU. [5.  EMS Week (May 21-27, 2023)] WE APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DO. AND THEN, WE ALSO [00:35:05] WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT SAME WEEK, EMS WEEK. EMS PRACTITIONERS ARE THE CRITICAL LIFE-SAVING LINK IN OUR MEDICAL SYSTEM DEDICATED TO PROVIDING THE MOST ADVANCED PREHOSPITAL MEDICAL CARE WHERE AND WHEN YO NEED IT MOST. WE ARE SO THANKFU FOR THEIR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND WISH TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEM BY DECLARING MAY 21ST THROUGH 27TH, 2023, AS EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES WEEK SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PLEASE PASS THAT ALONG TO YOUR MEMBERS. ALL RIGHT. CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS , I DON'T THINK I SAW ANY HERE THIS [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] AFTERNOON. ARE THERE ANY THAT MISSED? OKAY. NEXT, WE ARE AT THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES. >> I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING ON APRIL 25TH, 2023. >> WE HAVE A MOTION. TO HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> MOTION IN A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I AM HEARIN ON. ALTHOUGH THE FAVOR, INDICAT BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> THE MOTION CARRIES, 5-0. [PUBLIC COMMENTS] NEXT, WE ARE A PUBLIC COMMENT. OUR FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT IS FRO GREG HUNTINGTON. WHICH, HE ALS HAVE ITEM 20. YOU WANT TO SPEA ABOUT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 20 AND PUBLIC COMMENT? >>I WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 20 FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> HE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL THEN. >> HOLD ON, LET ME BE SURE. YO CAN WAIT, I WANT TO SPEAK THEN. >> THANK YOU. >> NO WORRIES. OUR PUBLIC OTHE PUBLIC COMMENT IS FROM DEBORAH I AM SORRY, I COULD NOT -- OKAY. IF YOU WILL PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT KRISTI HAS YOUR LAST NAME. CAN YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE RIGHT DOWN TO YOU? YES, MA'AM, THANK YOU. >> I CAME IN FOR A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS, BUT YOU ONLY TO START AT 4:45 OR 5:00. >> CAN YOU MOVE THE MIC LOWER? THANK YOU. >> YOU NEED TO START AT 4:00 OR 5:00 SO THAT ALL THE STAFF IS OUT OF HERE SO WE CAN PARK. LET'S SEE. IT'S HISTORIC RESERVATION MONTH. I WOULD LIK TO SEE MORE GREEN PRESERVATION. THERE IS A CAR WASH ON EVERY CORNER. I DON'T KNOW IF ZONING HAS TO APPROVE EVERY REQUEST , BUT WE ARE LOSING ALL OF OUR GREEN SPACE. NEXT, I WANT TO CHANGE THE LIBRARY HOURS TO 9:00 A.M. . WAITING TILL 10:00 IS JUST, HALF OF YOUR WARNING I GONE. HAVE AT 9:00 TO 7:00, INSTEAD OF 10:00 TO 8:00, OR HAVE MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY 9:00 TO 7:00 . AND THEN, THE LAST THING , FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE NO CHILDREN IN THE HOM , NEVER DID , I WANT TO WORK WITH OUR STATE LEGISLATORS TO FIND A BILL, I HAVE ALREADY CONTACTED GARRISON, BUT I HAVE NOT GOTTEN A RESPONSE , THOSE O US WHO ARE 65 OR OLDER WITH NO CHILDREN IN THE HOME SHOULD GE SOME SORT OF REPRIEVE FOR SCHOOL TAXES. JUST LIKE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, BUT A SCHOOL TAX EXEMPTION. ANYWAYS I HAVE NEVER HAD CHILDREN , NOT THAT THAT MATTERS , BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY -- THE BIGGEST CHUNK OF MY TAXES GOES TO SCHOOLS , WHICH I HAVE NEVER HAD ANY REASON TO SUPPORT. DON'T SAY IT'S FOR THE FUTURE, BECAUSE I HAVE NO FAITH IN THE FUTURE WIT WHERE WE ARE AT NOWADAYS. AND AM FROM DISTRICT 3. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAD. >> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR [CONSENT AGENDA] [00:40:02] PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT. I A SEEING NO OTHERS. WE WILL MOVE FORWARD TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE ANY ITEMS TO PULL? >> YES. ITEMS 17 AND 18 , WE LIKE TO PULL THOSE. THOSE WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD AT THE MAY 23RD MEETING . WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER ON THOSE. ADDITIONALLY, JUST FOR THE MINUTES , IN CONNECTION WIT ITEM NUMBER 11 , THE BACKUP DID NOT HAVE THE EXHIBITS FOR THE LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS FOR TWO OF THE EMERGENCY PURPOSES ONLY EASEMENT . THOSE HAVE BEEN EACH PROVIDED TO THE COMMISSIONERS. SO, THOSE TWO HAVE LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS. AND ALSO, THE EASEMENT THAT WAS THE PERMANEN EASEMENT FOR DRAINAGE , THE BACKUP HAD REFERENCE THAT IT WAS EXCLUSIVE, AND IT WILL BE NONEXCLUSIVE. NOT ONLY DOES THE COUNTY HAVE PIPES , BUT THE DEVELOPER ALSO HAS PIPES, SO, W WILL NEED ACCESS TO THAT AS WELL. AND THEN FINALLY, FOR ITE NUMBER 16 , IN CONNECTION WITH THAT FINAL PLAT, WHICH IS A RE-PLAT, THAT IS IN CONNECTION WITH A BOND TRANSPORTATION ROAD THAT IS BEING CONSTRUCTED BY THE COUNTY . WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PLAT. TH PROPERTY OWNER IS STILL GETTIN US THE TITLE LETTER . SINCE IT IS A RE-PLAT, WE DO NOT EXPECT ANY CONFERENCES ON THE PROPERTY BUT WILL WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO JUST APPROVE IT SUBJECT TO THE CLEAR TITLE. THAT IS IT. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS AN COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO PULL? >> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM NUMBER 12. >> OKAY. ANY OTHERS? OKAY, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION , WITH THE EXCEPTIONS OF ITEM NUMBER 11 HAVING THE ADDED LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS, I DON'T NUMBER 16 , PROVIDED THERE IS A CLEAR TITLE, AND WITHOUT ITEMS NUMBER 17 AND 18. >> AND 12. >> AND 12. SORRY. >> SO MOVED. >> SECONDED. >> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, INDICATE B [12.  Budget Resolution for 2022 Animal Welfare Organizations (AWO) Grant Award (M. Mosley)] SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES ITEM 12. >> ITEM NUMBER 12, I DON'T SEE TROY, BUT I DO SEE MEGAN, SO SH CAN COME UP APPEAR. THEY CAN TALK ABOUT THE PETCO $50,000 .0 GRANT. BACKGROUND, LAST FALL, WE APPLIED FOR $50,000.00 REQUEST FROM THE PETCO FOUNDATION TO SUPPORT THE NEW ANIMAL SERVICE FACILITY . WE JUST FOUND OUT WITHIN THE LAST 30 DAYS OR SO THAT WE WERE AWARDED , SO, THAT WAS THE CONTEXT OF THE APPLICATION, AND THIS IS THE BUDGET RESOLUTION. >> YOUR BACKUP SHOULD A CONVENIENTLY ANYWAYS . IS IT A COMPETITIVE GRANT? >> IT IS COMPETITIVE. >> I WANT TO POINT OUT , HERE I THE RESULT OF THE GRANT DEPARTMENT. $50,000.00 GOING T OUR ANIMAL CONTROL PROGRAM FOR THE COUNTY. THAT IS NOT COMING OUT OF THE TAXPAYERS WALLET DIRECTLY. IF YOU BY PET FOOD AN ALL OF THAT, NONETHELESS, IT IS A RESULT OF HARD WORK BY OUR GRANT DEPARTMENT. SO, THANK YOU GOOD JOB. >> I WOULD LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 12, PETCO GRANT, $50,000.00. >> OKAY, HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THE FAVOR, INDICATE BY SAYING AYE? >> >> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. [19.  Progress Report on the Bonded Transportation Program (E. Dendor)] >> MOTION CARRIES, 5-0. ITEM NUMBER 19, OR PROGRESS REPORT FOR FUNDED TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM. >> ANYTHING TO THE BOARD, INTO THE CHAIR FOR THE TRANSLATION PROGRAM. HERE WITH ME THIS EVENING IS CARLOS CAMPOS WITH CHUBBY WG I TO UPDATE YOU. ON PROJECT NUMBER ONE , EXCUSE ME THE COUNTY SEEM EVALUATED THE PROPOSAL TO FINALIZE THEIR DESIGN AND ACQUIRE PERMITS. TO UPDATE THE SCHEDULE, AND THE COST TO COMPUTE THE PROJECT. TH PROPOSAL IS FOUND TO BE AN EXIT BY THE COUNTY. ANY MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING WAS REACHED TO [00:45:04] TERMINATE THE ANDERSON COLUMBI AGREEMENT. AN ADDENDUM HAS BEEN DEVELOPED TO DISSOLVE THAT AGREEMENT WITH ANDERSON COLUMBIA, AND A STRATEGY IS BEING DEVELOPED TO CONTINUE THE DESIGN PERMIT CONSTRUCTION FOR THE PROJECT. THAT IS THE LIMITATION OF THE PROJECT. FOR GROUP NUMBER TWO, OVERALL COUNT CONSTRUCTION OF JACOBS CONTINUES WITH THE DESIGN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STATUS MEETING. APPRAISALS AND OFFERS CONTINUE FOR MULTIPLE POND SITES, AS WELL AS RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITIONS. ON PROJECT NUMBER TWO, THE TEAM AND I CONTINUE THEIR 100% DESIGN PLAN HERBACEOUS AND FORWARDED MITIGATION CREDITS WERE SECURED ONE PENSÉE IT WAS PROCURED AND CLOSED , AND OTHERS ARE UNDER NEGOTIATION. THE WATER MANAGEMENT PERMIT WAS RECEIVED ON MARCH 17TH. ON PROJECT NUMBER FIVE, COUNTY ROAD U 20, THE TEAM CONTINUES WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF 90% OF THE PLANS. WE ALSO CONTINUE WITH THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION, A ALL OF THE CULTURAL RESOURCES SURVEY REPORT. BOTH RENOVATIONS IMITATION CREDITS WERE SECURED FOR THE SPARTANS AS WELL. AS AN ALTERNATIVE PENSÉE THAT WAS PROCURED , AND THE PERMIT IS STILL UNDERWAY. THE PROJECT CONTINUES TO DEVELOP A 90% DESIGN PACKAGE, WHILE FINALIZIN THE EVALUATION FOR FOR ALTERNATIVE BOND SITES. APPRAISALS UNDERWAY FOR VARIOUS PROPERTIES AND WETLAND MITIGATIONS. FOR SEYMOUR GROUP NUMBER ONE, WE HELD OUR MONTHL STATUS MEETINGS WITH FINALIZIN THE ULTIMATE PLAN SET, AS WELL AS REQUIRING PERMITS. THE TEAM CONTINUED WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER AND MULTIPLE PROPERTY OWNERS FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY OF PENSÉE ACQUISITION. GA I CONTINUED WITH THE SAFETY OF PERMIT PLANS FOR WATKINS ROAD , OAK STREAM, AS WELL AS A ROUNDABOUT AT THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY 209 BE. WE CONTINUE OUR DISCREDIT CONSTRUCTION EFFORTS ON THE WEST END OF HENLEY , EASTWOOD WITH A HEAVY EMPHASIS ON THE ROAD OF LAKE ASBURY SCHOOLS. THE INTENT IS BASICALLY TO FINISH THE SECTION IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL BY THE END OF THE SUMMER WHILE ALL THE SCHOOLS ARE CLOSED. DURING THE SCHOOL SUMMER BREAK, A DETOUR AROUND THE SECTION WILL START O THE AFTERNOON OF MAY 26 , AND RUN THROUGH JULY 31ST. THEY AR NOT OUR CONTRACTOR, BUT THERE WERE CONTINUES IN THE SAME AREA AND THE INSTALLATION OF THE NATIONAL GAS PIPELINE TOWARD THE EDGE OF THE COUNTY ROADWAY -- RIGHT-OF-WAY, EXCUSE ME. TH CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS ARE MODIFIED FOR THE EXECUTION AND TO INCORPORATE CCO A'S WORK WITHIN THE DESIGN CONCEPT. MOVING ON TO PROJECT 6B, ALSO KNOWN AS CATHEDRAL PARKWAY, THE TEAM CONTINUES TO HOLD MONTHLY STATUS MEETINGS AND THE DESIGN BUILD TEAM AND LAMENTED THEIR FINAL MINUTES TRAFFIC PLANS, WHICH ARE UNDER REVIEW, AND WIL BE RELEASED WITH CONSTRUCTION SOON. THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS PERMIT IS STILL UNDER SUPERVISORY REVIEW. THIS CONTINUED REVIEW IS DELAYING TH START OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT . AS SOON AS WE GET APPROVAL, WE ARE READY TO GO. THE TEAM CONTINUES TO MEET WITH UTILITY PROVIDERS TO INCORPORATE UTILITIES INTO THE PLANS. THAT IS MY UPDATE. I AM OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [20.  RFP No. 22/23-24 Solid Waste Transfer Stations - Operation, Transport, and Disposal (K. Smith/M. Towns)] >> ALL RIGHT. UNDER OLD BUSINESS, I DO NUMBER 20, RFP NUMBER 22/23-24 SOLID WASTE TRANSFER STATIONS, OPERATION, TRANSPORT, AND DISPOSAL. >> IT EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS. SO, I WILL DISSLY DUE TO SOME DISCUSSION OF A CONTINUATION OF OUR LAST MEETING. YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH SOME FURTHER INFORMATION REGARDING OUR TRANSPORTATION AND DISPOSAL OPERATIONS. JUST FOR A QUICK BACKGROUND , OUR CURRENT TRANSFER AND DISPOSAL CONTRACT EXPIRES THIS SEPTEMBER 30TH . SO, IN FEBRUARY , WE ISSUED AN RFP ADVERTISEMENT , AS WELL AS HELD A MANDATORY PRE-MEETING. IN MARCH, WE RECEIVED PROPOSAL FROM TWO VENDORS , GFL AND WAST MANAGEMENT , AND THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE INDEPENDENTLY EVALUATED AND SCORED THEIR PROPOSALS , AND THOSE SCORES WERE BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD ON APRIL 11TH. THE BOARD HAS T [00:50:02] HAVE PRESENTATIONS FOR BOTH OF THOSE VENDORS. THAT OCCURRED O APRIL 25TH, AND THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS THAT STAFF WAS UNABLE TO ANSWER ON THE BOARD FLOOR, SO THAT BRINGS US TO TODAY. WE ARE COMING BACK. SO, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. SO, FROM THAT APRIL 25TH MEETING , ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS WAS CAN THE TRANSFER STATION OPERATED WITH PERMITS TO BE SPLIT. IF IT CAN, HOW LONG IS A PROCESS WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION? SO, YES INDEED, THEY CAN BE SPLIT TWO DIFFERENT OPERATORS FOR TH TRANSPORTATION BUILDINGS , AND THAT, IF THAT PERMIT WERE TO BE TRANSFERRED TO A DIFFERENT OPERATOR, IT WOULD TAKE 30 TO 60 DAYS TO COMPLETE THAT TASK. NOW, OF NOTE , OUR DEP REP BROUGHT THIS UP, CURRENTLY, THERE ARE NO RULE CHANGES UNTIL THE EXPIRATION OF THE CURRENT PERMIT, WHICH IS IN 2033. SO, OUR OPERATIONAL PLAN , THE HOUR OF OPERATION, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE ATTACHED TO THAT PERMIT, AND ARE MADE PART OF TH PERMIT. SO, A DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR WHO CAME INTO THE BUILDING WOULD HAVE TO WORK UNDER THE CURRENT OPERATIONS PLAN. AND, IF THEY CHANGE THAT THEN THAT COULD TRIGGER THE NEED FOR A MODIFICATION . IF WE GOT INTO THAT, THEN WE LOSE TH GRANDFATHER STATUS IF THERE HAV BEEN CHANGES IN THE PROCESS . IS GOING TO BE A FOUR TO SIX MONTH PROCESS. SO, QUESTION NUMBER TWO, HOW WOULD A SPLIT AWARD AFFECT THE FACILITY LAND LEASE? AND THE ANSWER TO THIS I THAT TWO SEPARATE LEASES WOULD BE REQUIRED. AND IT WOULD REQUIRE SHARE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COMMON SPACES. WITH AN AGREEMENT FROM ALL PARTIES, THEY WOULD HAVE TO RETAIN AGREEMENT FOR THAT COMMON AREA. SOME NOTES ON THAT ARE THE THE PROPOSED RATES THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE VENDORS INCLUDED THEIR ESTIMATED REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE COST FOR THE ENTIR TRANSPORTATION CANVAS. SO, SPLITTING THE LEASE MAY CHANGE THEIR CALCULATIONS. THE CONTRACTORS VERY WELL MAY NOT AGREE TO SHARE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THESE COMMON AREAS BECAUSE OF THE FINANCIAL LIABILITY THA WOULD NOT HAVE FULL CONTROL TO MITIGATE THE RISK. AND, IN THA CASE, THE COUNTY BECOME DIRECTL RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE SHARED AREAS, WHICH ARE THE ROADWAYS , AND A PORTLY, THE CITIZEN DROP OFF AREAS. AND SO, REPAIR MAINTENANCE WOULD FALL IN ON TH COUNTY , AS WELL AS THE RISK AN LIABILITY , WHICH WE ARE CURRENTLY HELD HARMLESS FOR THA BECAUSE YOU DO NOT LEASE FROM THE CONTRACTOR. THEY ASSUME ALL OF THAT. SO, QUESTION THREE. ARE THERE OTHER TRANSFER STATIO FACILITIES IN FLORIDA WITH MULTIPLE CONTRACTORS? I THINK WE TOLD YOU , AT THE LAST MEETING, WE ALSO TALKED WITH OUR REPRESENTATIVES AT THE NORTHEAST DISTRICT OF THE DEP, AS WELL AS --, WHO IS OUR CONSULTANT ENGINEER . WE FOUND NO ONE THAT WE SPOKE WITH WHO I AWARE OF ANY TRANSFER STATIONS WHETHER PUBLIC OR PRIVATE, IN FLORIDA THAT UTILIZE MULTIPLE CONTRACTORS FOR THE LOADING OPERATIONS. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR TO PUT IT HERE, JONES EDMUNDS ASSOCIATES IS OUR WAST CONSULTANT. THEY HAVE BEEN OUR WASTE CONSULTANT IN OUR ENGINEERING RECORD THAT HANDLE ALL OF OUR DEP PROGRAMMING WORK, ALL OF OUR INSPECTIONS , ALL THE LANDFILL GAS , AND WHIL MONITORING INSPECTIONS, AND HANDLES ALL OF THOSE REPORTS IN DEP FOR US. THEY HAVE BEEN A CONTRACTOR FOR THIS YEAR, WILL BE 30 YEARS. THEY HAVE BEEN WIT THE COUNTY A VERY LONG TIME. THEY LARGELY DO THEIR WORK, THE HELPED US GET A CLIENT WITH DE WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE HOLD. NEXT SLIDE? QUESTION FOUR. WITH THE TRANSFER STATION FACILITY SUPPORT SAFE AND EFFICIENT OPERATIONS ? WANT TO BE CLEAR, AM SING FOUR ENTITIES PER CUSTOMER. OUR RESPONDENTS, WASTE MANAGEMENT , IS THERE , A [00:55:06] IS THEIR SUBCONTRACTOR CEI. AN GFL PROPOSES TO BE THERE WITH THEIR SUBCONTRACTOR. SO, THIS PUTS FOUR CONTRACTORS ON THE TRANSPORTATION SITE. AND, THE GRAPHIC , WHEN WE TRIED TO COLO CODE , IF WE WERE TO SPLIT IT, ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THE BRIGHT GREEN AREA, THAT IS THE TRANSFE STATION. THE FRONT OF THE TRANSPORTATION STATION IS THE APRON, OR THE PATH LEADING INT THE BUILDING. OF THE BUILDING ITSELF, THAT'S WHERE IS COVERED AND THEN, YOU HAVE THE RAMP IN WHICH THE TRUCK BACK DOWN INTO PIT TO BE LOADED. ON THE NORTH LEFT SIDE IS SHOWING A MUCH LARGER AREA FOR THE CLASS ONE TRANSFER STATION. AGAIN, WE HAV THE TRANSFER STATION, WHICH IS COVERED, THE APRON , THE OFFICE FOR THE FACILITY FOR THE CONTRACTOR USE WHICH IS LOCATE AS ATTACHED TO THAT BUILDING, AND THEN, YOU SEE THERE IS A DRIVEWAY THAT GOES COMPLETELY AROUND THE BUILDING, AND THE TRACTOR-TRAILERS PULL INTO THE LOADING AREA UNDERCOVER , AND THEN, AS THEY COME OUT AT THE BOTTOM NEXT TO THE PURPLE DRIVEWAY , THEY HAVE A TARP RAC IN WHICH THERE STAFF PUTS ON THE TARPS. THE CLASS ONE TRANSPORTATION IS ON QUITE A RISE. WELL IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF PROPERTY BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE DRIVEWAY, IT I VERY SLOPED , YOU KNOW, AND IT IS NOT A FLAT SOLID AREA THAT IS ACCESSIBLE FOR PARKING EQUIPMENT. AND THEN, IF WE LOO AT THE VIOLET AREA, WE ARE SHOWING THE CONTRACTORS GATES, WHICH IS SEPARATE FROM THE MAIN GATE AT THE FACILITY. SO, IT I ONLY USED BY THE CONTRACTOR AND THEIR EQUIPMENT. SO, IT IS A ONE-WAY -- IT IS A ONE LANE ROAD FROM THE GATE IN AND OUT , AND THEN, THE RED CIRCLES ARE TO DESIGNATE THE CITIZEN DROP OFF AREAS , AND YOU WILL BE ABL TO SEE THAT CLEARLY. THAT IS ALSO PART OF THE COMMON AREA, BECAUSE I WOULD BE HANDLED THROUGH THE CONTRACT TO MANAGE THOSE AREAS , AND DUMP THE CITIZEN DROP OFF AT THEIR HOUS THERE. AND THEN, THE TRUCK PARKING AND EQUIPMENT STORAGE AREAS ARE BESIDE AND IN FRONT OF THE CND TRANSFER STATION . AND THOSE AREAS ARE IF THERE WERE A SPLIT AWARD. THEN, THEY WILL HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN TO SHARE THOSE AREAS OR DEFY THOSE AREAS UP BETWEEN THE CONTRACTORS. AND WE WILL NOTE THAT , WITH THESE FOUR ENTITIES , PLUS OUR STAFF OCCUPYING A RELATIVELY SMALL AREA, IT WILL INCREASE CHALLENGES TO FISH OPERATION SUGGESTIONS. THE IN AND OUT TIMES, WHICH MEANS THE TIME REQUEST, WE MEASURE THAT FROM THE TIME THE CUSTOMER COME INTO THE GATE, UNTIL THEY GET ACROSS THE SCALE, DUMPED, AND THEN THEY EXIT THE FACILITY. SO, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF INCREASING THOSE TIMES , AND CERTAINLY, THERE ARE SOME SAFET CONCERNS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE IN RECEIPT OF A LETTER FRO JONES EDMUNDS, THEY LOOKED AT THIS FOR US, AND THEY DON'T SUPPORT SPLITTING THE OPERATION DUE TO THE SIZE AND DESIGN OF OUR TRANSPORTATION FACILITY. SO, THIS MAIN EXAMPLE SHOWS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE CERTAINLY OCCURRING IN THESE CURRENT SPACES. IT IS COMBINED AS A CAMPUS. IT WAS DESIGNED O OPTIMIZE EFFICIENT USE OF SPACE . LIKE I SAID LAST TIME I WAS HERE , YOU KNOW, THE CLASS ONE BUILDING WAS BUILT FIRST , AND FEW YEARS LATER, IT WAS BUILT TO SHARE THE PARKING AREAS THA ARE ALREADY IN EXISTENCE , AND WAS CONSTRUCTED FOR THE CLASS ONE. SO, THERE IS A LIMITED PARKING AND STORAGE AREA THAT HAS TO BE DIVIDED . BY INCREASING THE NUMBER OF CONTRACTORS , WE INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF EQUIPMENT THAT WILL B STORED IN THE FACILITY , BECAUS EACH CONTRACTOR IS GOING TO HAV THEIR OWN SPARE EQUIPMENT. SO, AT MINIMUM, WE WILL HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER FUELING STATION . THE CURRENT FUELING STATION IS [01:00:03] ADJACENT TO THE CND BUILDING , SO WE WILL HAVE TO FIND AN AREA FOR ANOTHER CONTRACTOR TO USE FOR THEIR EQUIPMENT. AND THEN, WE ESTIMATE THERE WOULD BE TWO ADDITIONAL PIECES WITH OUR BACKUP LOADING EQUIPMENT , WHETHER THESE ARE YOUR DOCK TRUCKS, OR JOCKEY TRUCKS THAT MOVE THE MD TRAILERS FROM THE TRANSPORTATION STATION TO THE SCALE AND BACK TO THE TARP RACK THESE ARE SMALLER SEMI TRUCKS. THEY ARE NOT LICENSED TO BE ON THE ROAD. SO, THEY ARE STRICTLY USED WITHIN A FACILITY LIKE OURS. AND ADDITIONAL TRAILERS. IT IS GETTING PRETTY CROWDED AS IT IS DUE TO REACHING OUR CAPACITY LIMITS. THAT IS WHY W CAME TO YOU A FEW MONTHS AGO, AND THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THE PLA TO CONSTRUCT AND TO EXPAND OUR FACILITIES. OF THE SAFETY CONCERNS, AGAIN, IT'S JUST NUMBERS. MORE OPERATORS , MORE INCREASES THAT ARE ALREADY A SUBSTANTIAL RISK ASSOCIATING WITH SOLID WASTE FACILITIES , BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT MIX OF RESIDENTIAL VEHICLES AND PEOPL UNLOADING TRASH OUTSIDE OF THEI VEHICLES ALONG WITH PERSONAL TRUCKS AND HEAVY EQUIPMENT WIT THE SOLID WASTE LOADERS. AND THEN, THE SHARED COMMON AREAS . BY SHARING, YOU DILUTE THE RESPONSIBILITY AND LIABILITY . QUESTION FIVE WAS WILL SPLITTING THE OPERATION INCREASE THE COUNTY'S COST? AND THE ANSWER IS YES . IS ESTIMATE $140,544.00. PLUS, INCREASED LIABILITY THAT WE WILL BE DRIVING A DOLLAR FIGURE 2. MOST OF THAT 140,000, IN FACT, THAT IS RELATED TO TWO FTES. THE SOLID WASTE IS THE INSPECTORS , IT'S CALCULATED AS A $17 AN HOUR SALARY. WE WILL REQUIRE TWO PEOPLE IN ORDER TO COVER OU OPERATING HOURS . IT'S 10 HOURS A DAY, SIX DAYS A WEEK, SO, TO COVER 60 HOURS A WEEK. THIS WOULD HELP COUNTY EMPLOYEES TO HELP WITH TRAFFIC CONTROL AND SAFETY TO OVERSEE THE CONTRACTORS , AND PRIORITIZE TH WORK BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS. BECAUSE, AS WASTE FLOWS , CHANGE, AND DIFFERS BETWEEN CLASS ONE AND CND, OR SOMETHING HAPPENS AT THE LANDFILL, AND ON OF THE LANDFILLS IS HAVING DELAYS , YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE TO PRIORITIZE, BECAUSE YOU DO THOSE CONTRACTORS WILL PRIORITIZE THEIR OWN WORK IN THEIR OWN BUILDING. CERTAINLY, WE SEE A NEED FOR CONFLICT MITIGATION, AS WELL AS A BIG JOB AT OUR FACILITY IS JUST LITTER CONTROL. LITTER PICKUP , AND SPILLS PICKUP. SO, WE WILL HELP DETERMINE WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT . AND THEN, $50,000.00 INITIAL COST TO BUILD A COVERED SECONDARY CONTAINMENT AREA FOR AN ADDITIONAL FUEL TANK. IF YOU ALLOW IT, IT IS NOT A FUEL TANK THIS IS JUST SECONDARY CONTAINMENT. SO, IF THE TANK TH CONTRACTOR MIGHT SIT IN THEIR WERE TOO WEAK, IT CONTAINS THAT FUEL SO THAT IT CAN BE PUMPED OUT. SO, IT IS TO KEEP IT FROM GETTING INTO OUR GROUND. AND, IT IS REQUIRED TO BE COVERED. DEP WOULD NOT COMMIT TO WHETHER THAT WOULD BE NEEDING A PERMIT MODIFICATION IN ORDER TO ADD MORE. SO, THAT IS STILL UNCLEAR. ADDITIONALLY, WITH ADDITION OF THE CONTRACTOR AND A SUBCONTRACTOR, IT WOULD BE AN INCREASED ROOM FOR STAFF FOR MANAGING TWO CONTRACTS. PART O THAT MANAGEMENT DOES INCLUDE INSPECTIONS , NOT ONLY OF THE FACILITY IS , WHICH ARGUABLY WOULD LEAD TO STILL BE IN THE SAME FACILITIES, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES MONITORING PAPERWORK , AND MAKING SURE THAT GIVING THEM SOME OVERSIGHT TO SATISFY [01:05:05] US , AND THEY ARE DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO MEET THESE GUIDELINES. SO, IF THERE IS NO A PROBLEM THAT WE WISH HER RESPONSE ABILITY FOR, AND THEN, IF WE ARE IN CONTROL OF THOSE COMMON AREAS , WE WILL BE IN A POSITION OF HAVING TO SOLICIT PREPARED MAIDENS CONTRACTS. SO IF IT'S DAMAGED, AND WE NEED TO PREPARE , THEN THAT IS SOMETHIN THAT WE WILL HAVE TO DO WHEREAS UNDER A DIFFERENT STRUCTURE, THAT IS PART OF THAT LEASE OR THAT CONTRACT FOR THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THAT. AND THEN, THE INCREASED LIABILITY FOR THE INCIDENTS AN ACCIDENTS, THERE'LL BE SOME MORE STAFF TIED UP INTO INVESTIGATING AND PREPARING THE REPORTS FOR THOSE, AS WELL AS FOR OUR STORMWATER COORDINATES , WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO AND HOW DO YOU HOLD EITHER ONE TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE WHEN BOTH ARE DISCHARGING TO I FOR BOTH BUILDING AREAS? SO, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR I JUST HAD A NOTE OF WHY SAFET IS A CONCERN , IS A SOLID WASTE FACILITIES ARE CONSISTENTLY I THE TOP 10 MOST DANGEROUS JOBS. THAT'S NOT ONLY FOR EMPLOYEES , BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS FOR ACCIDENT AND DEATH FOR NONEMPLOYEES AT THOSE SITES AS WELL. GENERALLY, IT IS ALWAYS RANKED BETWEEN NUMBER THREE AND NUMBER SEVEN. NUMBER SEVEN MOST DANGEROUS IS THE BEST THAT I CAN RECALL THE INDUSTRY BEING RANKED. FINALLY, QUESTION SIX, HOW WILL THE CHANGES AFFECT OU EMERGENCY OPERATIONS? IN OUR 2 YEAR SOLID MANAGEMENT PLAN , I WOULD ELIMINATE OUR FLEXIBILITY TO COMBINE BOTH WASTE STREAMS FOR EMERGENCY , OR DURING, IF W NEED TO DO IN OUR FUTURE CONSTRUCTION OF SOLID WASTE FACILITIES . OUR CURRENT PLAN IS THAT, IF ONE BUILDING IS DAMAGED OR MADE UNAVAILABLE , THE WASTE WOULD BE DESERTED AN DIVERTED TO THE OTHER BUILDING UNTIL THE DAMAGED BUILDING COUL BE REPAIRED. AND WHAT ALLOWS THE PLAN TO DO THAT IS THE LANDFILL, BECAUSE IT IS PERMITTED TO ACCEPT BOTH CLASS ONE WAYS. AND, IT CAN ACCEPT THOSE SEGREGATED ORDINANCE . SO, THAT IS AN ADVANTAGE THAT ALLOWS FOR FLEXIBILITY CURRENTLY. SO, SEPARATE CONTRACTS WOULD PUT US IN A POSITION OF DIRECT HAULING EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE BUILDINGS BEING DAMAGED. SO, USING THE EXAMPLE OF OUR CLASS ONE BUILDING BEING DAMAGED BY A TORNADO , IT IS UNUSABLE FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. IF WE ARE IN THE TWO CONTRACTOR SCENARIO. SO, ALL THE CUSTOMER COMING IN, THEY ARE BRINGING IN CLASS ONE WASTE OR HOUSEHOLD GARBAGE , THEY WILL BE DIRECTED TO THE NEAREST LANDFILL. THAT WILL BE PUTNAM COUNTY. THAT IS A RESULT OF LOSS TO THOSE TWO FEES IN CLAY COUNTY. AND I TRIED TO PUT A GRAPHIC JUST TO KIND OF SHOW THAT . IN THE SCENARIO WITH THE CLASS ONE BUILDING DOWN , AND USING A MIXED WASTE LANDFILL , CLASS ON AND CND WOULD CONTINUE TO COME INTO THE GATES AT ROSEMARY HIL . IT COULD ALL GO INTO THE CND TRANSPORTATION BUILDING, AND WOULD BE TRANSPORTED TO THE MIXED WASTE LANDFILL . WITHOUT THE USE OF A MIXED WASTE LANDFILL , IF WE HAD TWO CONTRACTORS -- THE CND WOULD COME THROUGH THE GATE, GO TO TH TRANSFER STATION, AND BE CHARGE TO THE LANDFILL IN DUVAL COUNTY. THE CLASS ONE WASTE WITH THAT BUILDING IS NOT ABLE TO OPERATE AND WOULD HAVE TO B HAULED DIRECTLY TO A LANDFILL. IN THIS EXAMPLE, WE USED PUTNAM COUNTY , AND THAT IS THE NEARES LANDFILL TO OUR FACILITY. SO, THAT WOULD BE OUR COLLECTION TRUCKS , AND THE CUSTOMERS WOUL [01:10:03] BE DIVERTED TO A LANDFILL IF W WERE NOT ABLE TO ACCEPT THE MATERIAL AT OUR FACILITY. THAT COMPLETES THE INFORMATION WE HAVE BROUGHT BACK TO YOU. I WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT STEVE LOCKS IS HERE , SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS SURROUNDING THAT LETTER , HE IS HERE AND AVAILABLE . >> QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. WE DO HAVE MR. HUNTINGTON'S CARD, AND IF WE DO LIKE TO COME ON UP AND ADDRESS US, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME. >> NO, MA'AM, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. EXCUSE ME, NO, MA'AM, AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THANK YOU. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> I GUESS I WILL OPEN IT FOR DISCUSSION. OR QUESTIONS? DID ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? >> I DO NOT GET TO GLASSMAN, IS HE HERE? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. >> STEVE LOCKS, I REPRESENT ENGINEERS FOR THE TWO TRANSPORTATION STATIONS , AND W ARE INVOLVED IN THE TRANSFER STATIONS AS WELL AS A NUMBER O OTHER TRANSFER STATIONS IN THE FACILITIES AROUND THE STATE. >> ARE YOU AN ENGINEER? >> YES, SIR, CIVIL ENGINEER. >> I THINK I HEARD JONES EDMUND IS UNDER CONTRACT FROM CLAY COUNTY FOR 30 YEARS. YOU HAVE BEEN WITH JONES EDMUNDS FOR - >> 38 YEARS? >> I WAS THERE THE FIRST DAY. >> OH, REALLY? OH, YOU ARE AN EXPERT. MY REAL QUESTION IS, OVER 30 YEARS, HAS THERE BEEN ANY ISSUES AT THE TRANSFER STATION? >> NO, THEY RUN PRETTY SMOOTH. I THINK THE BIGGEST ISSUE WITH THOSE TRANSFER STATIONS, THEY ARE VERY SIMPLE TRANSFER STATIONS. THEY WERE DESIGNED TO BE VERY ECONOMICAL, VERY EASY T OPERATE . THE ISSUE THAT YOU HAVE IS WHEN THE BILL TO THOSE TRANSFER STATIONS , THEY WERE BUILT BECAUSE YOU WERE SHUTTING DOWN YOUR LANDFILLS , AND THAT WAS WHERE EVERYTHING CAME FROM THE COUNTY , AND THEY NEEDED TO TRANSFER WITHOUT OF THE COUNTY. UNFORTUNATELY, THE SITE, AS YOU CAN TELL, IS VERY TIGHT. THERE IS A VERY SMALL AREA TO BUILD THOSE TRANSFER STATIONS. THE CLASS ONE TRANSFER STATION WAS BUILT FIRST A NUMBER OF YEARS LATER, AND IN THE CLASS THREE TRANSFER STATION WAS BUILT. SO IF YOU HAVE BEEN OUT THERE, I A SURE YOU HAVE NOTICED THAT THER IS A LOT OF HEAVY TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, TRACTOR-TRAILERS NEXT AND WITH CITIZENS DRIVING AND PERSONALLY OPERATING VEHICLES AROUND THAT SITE. SO, IT IS A TIGHT SITE. THERE IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC , AND, TO US, A MAJOR CONSIDERATION TO THINK ABOUT , BESIDE THE SHARED SPACE ISSUE AND THOSE THINGS , IS THAT RIGH NOW, THE WAY YOU HAVE IT SET UP IT IS A SINGLE CONTRACT WITH ON POINT OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ENTIRE SITE, AND THAT INCLUDES COORDINATED TRAFFIC WITHOUT SIT , DEALING WITH HOLY MAINTENANCE ISSUES, AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IF YOU HAVE TWO CONTRACTS , EVEN THOUGH I CAN THINK OF A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS FOR HAVING TWO CONTRACTS, IT CREATES AN INTERFACE BETWEEN TWO CONTRACTORS, AND IT CREATES A POINT WHERE YOU CAN HAVE MISCOMMUNICATION, A POINT WHERE AN ATTORNEY WOULD HAVE TO ADVISE LIABILITY ISSUES YOU HAVE TRAFFIC, YOU HAVE SOME EYE MIXED WITH PERSONAL VEHICLES , ANYTHING THROUGH MISCO MEDICATION OR ANYTHING ELSE COULD RESULT IN AN ACCIDENT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD CREATE MORE RISK ON THE COUNTY OR MORE RISK TO FOLKS, I THINK. >> YOU DO, YOU'RE RIGHT. >> I HAVE DRIVEN OUT THERE FOR MY PERSONAL BUSINESS, AND TAKEN TRASH, I DON'T ACTUALLY DO THE UNLOADING , BUT I HAVE WRITTEN OUT THERE , AND THERE IS NOT A LOT OF DIRECTIONS. >> YES, MA'AM, YOU'RE ABSOLUTEL RIGHT. THE CHALLENGE, IN A WAY I THINK THIS WOULD ADD AN ADDITIONAL CHALLENGE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH IS ALL I AM SAYING. THIS IS A COMMUNICATION ISSUE. AND ALSO, AT LEAST IN MY EXPERIENCE, WORKING WITH BOTH OPERATION AND PRIMARILY CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT , YOU STILL RUN A CONSTRUCTION SITE FOR HAVING MULTIPLE CONTRACTORS, PRIME CONTRACTORS WORKING ON A SITE. THE BIGGEST AREA OF RISK AS THE INTERFACE BETWEEN THE CONTRACTORS. IF ONE ENCOURAGES AND ANOTHER ONE, YO [01:15:01] GET INVOLVED WITH CLAIMS. AND THERE ARE CLAIMS OR ONE CONTRACTOR HAS CAUSED A DELAY O AN ISSUE WITH ANOTHER CONTRACTOR, NOW, THE COUNTY IS IN A POSITION OF POTENTIALLY HAVING TO PAY A CLAIM, AND THEN HAVING TO PURSUE THE OTHER CONTRACTOR, BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE INDIVIDUAL CONTRACTS . SO, I KNOW THAT IT JUST ADDS ANOTHER ELEMENT TO THE OPERATION THAT YOU DON'T HAVE NOW. THAT IS JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT AS YOU DO THIS. AS FAR AS THE PERMITTING ISSUES, DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYTHING OBLIGATED. THESE ARE STANDARD PERMITS THAT WOULD BE FAIRLY SIMPLE FOR TRANSFERRING PERMITS. I THINK ONE COMMENT PERMIT FOR STORMWATER WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A CHALLENGE. MAYBE THE COUNTY MIGHT HAVE TO TAKE OVER THAT PERMIT. BUT, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN COMP LOCATED ON THIS. THIS IS OUR BIGGEST ISSUE QUESTIONS? >> ONE QUESTION BEFORE YOU GO, THANK YOU FOR TELLING US THAT THIS IS NOT -- WE CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THAT. YOU OUTLINED YOUR THOUGHTS AS TO OUR TRANSPORTATION STATION AND THE SIZE BEING A KEY COMPONENT OF SPLIT THAT. CERTAINLY, THERE IS OTHER FACILITIES IN THE STATE THAT ARE LARGER THAN OURS, AND THEY DON'T SPLIT EITHER. SO, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE REASONS WHY THE WOULD SPLIT? >> I THINK TO BE CLEAR ON THAT, IF YOU WORK WITH A NUMBER OF LARGER COMMUNITIES, THEY HAVE VERY LARGE SITES . THEY WILL HAVE DIFFERENT OPERATIONS. THEY HAVE A TRANSFER STATION, YOU MIGHT HAVE A WASTE-TO-ENERGY FACILITY, YOU HAVE A SLUDGE PROCESSING FACILITY, YOU HAVE DIFFERENT VENDORS ON THE SITE. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM OF HAVING DIFFERENT VENDORS ON THE SITE WHERE YOU CAN ASSIGN A SPECIFI AREA THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR, AND IT GETS YOU A PRETTY CLEAN INTERFAE. I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY COUNTY IN THE STATE THAT HAS MULTIPLE TRANSFER STATIONS ON THE SAME SITE THAT HAS MULTIPLE OPERATORS OPERATING, PROBABLY FOR THE SAM REASONS. BUT, I WOULD THINK THA EVER ROSEMARY HILL, IF YOU HAD ENOUGH ROOM TO WHERE YOU CAN KEEP THEM APART , I DON'T SEE A ISSUE. >> THERE IS ONE AT A YARD WASTE SITUATION WHERE THEY WOULD BE FAR ENOUGH AWAY WITH TWO DIFFERENT OPERATIONS COMING IN. >> CORRECT. KEEPING THEM IN SEPARATE AREAS, AND THEN, IN PARTICULAR, IF YOU HAD A YARD TRASH PROCESSING FACILITY THAT WAS KEPT AWAY FROM THAT, THERE CERTAINLY WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE OF SPLITTING. I THINK IT IS JUST WHEN YOU BASICALLY GOT TW OPERATIONS ESSENTIALLY IN THE SAME SITE. AT THE SAME OPERATIONAL AREA ON THE SITE THAT WOULD CREATE SOME CHALLENGES. >> THANK YOU, I AM ALL DONE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. COMMISSIONER BURKE? >> WITH QUESTION NUMBER ONE, WITH THE PERMIT BEING TRANSFERRED HOWEVER, CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT? HE WAS TO SING THAT THE PERMITTING PROCESS WIL BE SIMPLE, BUT THIS IS SAYING A FOUR TO SIX MONTH PROCESS. THAT WOULD GET RID OF THE GRANDFATHERING. >> SORRY, MADAM CHAIR. THAT WOULD BE IF TRANSFERRING IT AS IS IS 30 TO 60 DAYS. IF THEY WANTED TO CHANGE THE OPERATIONS PLAN , THAT WOULD TRIGGER IT NEEDING TO BE A MODIFIED PERMIT AND WE WOULD GET INTO THAT LONGER REVIEW PROCESS WITH DEP. >> SO, WOULD YOU CHANGE THE OPERATION PLAN? >> WELL, AND THE SCENARIO WE AR CONSIDERING, IT WOULD BE WE'RE GOING FROM ONE CONTRACTOR TO A DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR. SO, THER IS A POSSIBILITY THEY MAY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE CURRENT OPERATIONS PLAN. I DON'T KNOW I THEY WOULD OR NOT. IF WE DID THAT, WE WOULD ABIDE BY THE CURRENT OPERATIONS PLAN. >> I'VE GOT IT. >> THOSE ARE TYPES OF QUESTIONS WE WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO THE CONTRACTOR ABOUT AT THIS STAGE. I NEEDED. >> MADAM CHAIR, THE FUELING STATION, THAT WON'T TRIGGER THIS? >> THAT IS UNKNOWN. OUR DEP RE WOULD NOT COMMIT EITHER WAY. THEY ARE BASICALLY SAYING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE REVIEWED. I DON'T KNOW IF STEVE, YOU HAVE A IDEA, STAFF, -- >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT -- >> SECONDARY CONTAINMENT . [01:20:08] >> IT USED TO BE THESE PERMITS WERE MUCH MORE COMP LOCATED. THEY WERE A FULL PERMIT. NOWADAYS, IT IS IS A GENERAL PERMIT . YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT AN OPERATIONS PLAN. IF YOU WERE TO CHANGE SOMETHING LIKE THAT , YO WOULD NEED TO SUBMIT THAT TO DE . MR. TOWNS IS RIGHT, THAT WOUL BE SOME ADDITIONAL EFFORT TO BE DONE. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I DON'T SEE THOSE AS MAJOR CHALLENGES TO DO SOMETHING THA WOULD TAKE ADDITIONAL EFFORT LIKE THAT. BUT CERTAINLY , THAT IS NOTHING INSURMOUNTABLE. >> IS THAT CORRECT? >> DEP COULD HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT. >> CERTAINLY. >> WE DON'T KNOW. >> THEY CAN HAVE AN ISSUE WITH JUST ABOUT ANYTHING. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTION FOR STAFF? COMMENTS? QUESTIONS FOR OUR TWO BIDDERS? WELL, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR OUR BIDDERS. I SEE REPS FROM GFL ARE HERE, SO, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW YOU WOULD PROPOSE SPLITTING IT. SO, ARE YOU PREPARED TO TAL ABOUT THAT? >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR AN COMMISSIONERS. I'M A GOVERNMEN CONTRACTS MANAGER , 7580 PHILIPS HIGHWAY. TONIGHT, WE HAVE A SMALL FIELD, HE IS OUR GENERAL MANAGER. HE IS THE LEAD, IF YOU WILL, FOR ALL OF OUR OPERATIONS. WE ALSO HAVE DEREK HERE AS WELL. CERTAINLY, WE LOVE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS, AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A MAP OUTLINING WHAT WE THINK FOR PERSPECTIVE WOULD BE A GOOD FLOW FOR TRAFFIC, AND HO WE WOULD ACCOMPLISH SOME OF THESE TASKS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY AS WELL THAT I KNOW THE STAFF OF BROUGHT UP THERE WILL BE SOME ADDITIONAL EXPENSES IN REGARDS TO THE $15,000.00 , YOU KNOW, CANOPY, OR SOMETHING IN THAT REGARD. I THINK WE ARE HER TO SAY , AS A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, WE ARE ALWAYS WILLING TO TRY TO WORK WITH TH COUNTY, AND COUNTY STAFF IN THA REGARD. IF THERE IS ANY FINANCIAL HURDLE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO ADDRESS , JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE OPEN TO TRYING TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THAT -- SOME OF THOSE AREAS OF CONCERN. AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING ED A SMALL FIELD UP, AND HAVE YOU WALK THROUGH SOME OF THE ASSETS OF THOSE. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> IT AFTERNOON. EDWARD SMALL FIELD, I AM THE GENERAL MANAGE FOR GFL ENVIRONMENT WILL, HENC THE OTIS ROAD. WE HAVE A LITTL MAP, I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE ALLOWED TO HANDLE SOMETHING? CA A HANDED TO YOU? >> I FIGURED I'M NOT ALLOWED T COME THE WHITE PORTION. >> NO, WE PREFER YOU NOT. WE WANT FAIR WARNING IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE US. WE HAVE BACKUP IN THE CORNER. >> TO BE FAIR, I AM FAIRLY SLOW, SO YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO GET OUT THE DOOR BEFORE I CAME ANYWHERE CLOSE SO, SOMETHING THAT IS PART OF THE CONVERSATIO THAT MAYBE WE SEE DIFFERENTLY IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES IN THE OPERATIONS IN THE FIELD. WE DON'T SEE THAT. THERE IS A SAM AMOUNT OF TONNAGE COMING IN, SAME AMOUNT OF TONERS THAT GOES OUT. THE TRAILERS COMING TO THE FACILITY NOW ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE THE FACILITY AS PART O THIS PLAN. YOU KNOW, WE ARE MOVING MSW FROM THE CLASS ONE . THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH ON VENDOR, OR TWO VENDORS. WHAT W SEE IS -- LET ME BACK UP TO TH MAP , SINCE WE EVEN PRINTED IN COLOR FOR TODAY . THE MAP IS NO A CHANGE IN THE CURRENT FLOW. THIS IS JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS FAMILIAR WITH HO THE TRANSFER STATION IS CURRENTLY OPERATING. PEOPLE AR COMING IN THROUGH THAT SCALE , YOUR CUSTOMERS AND CITIZENS, AN THEN, THEY GET TO THAT POINT WHERE YOU CAN SEE IF YOU GO TO THE GREEN ARROWS FOR THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE TRANSFER STATION, OR THEY GO TO THE CLASS ONE. GF DOES NOT PROPOSE TO CHANGE THAT BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS ENHANCE IT BY PUTTING SOME ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DIFFEREN VENDOR, I THINK IT IS JUST BETTER , YOU KNOW, MY SITE HAS LOTS OF SIGNS, SO WE CAN GET PEOPLE TO WHERE THEY NEED. THEY FORGET THINGS ONCE THEY GO PAST THAT SCALE HOUSE. WITH MANAGEMENT FACILITY HAS SIGNS . I HAVE COPIED A COUPLE OF THEM. SO, WE'LL HAVE SIGNS. I THINK I IS MORE COMMUNICATION , YOU KNOW, ORIGINAL COMEDIC ASIAN TO ENHANCE WHAT IS ALREADY THE PLA OUT THERE. IN TERMS OF TRAILER [01:25:05] STORAGE, WE HAVE ALL OF THE PROPOSED TRAILER STORAGE AREAS ON THAT MAP. THIS IS WHAT IS BEING USED NOW. GFL , OUR PROPOSED PLAN WAS TO HAVE A MAXIMUM OF SIX TRAILERS ON SITE TO ACCOMMODATE OUR 20 LOADOUT A DAY. THEY ARE OUT OF THE WAY, THEY DO NOT HINDER OPERATIONS THAT ALLOWS A LOT OF OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR WASTE MANAGEMENT TO USE WHICHEVER PORTION, YOU KNOW, EITHER THROUGH A CONVERSATION , YOU KNOW, A JOINT CONVERSATION BETWEEN GFL, WASTE MANAGEMENT, AND THE COUNTY, OR AGAIN, WE AR VERY OPEN TO WORKING WITH ALL PARTIES. WE ARE OBVIOUSLY -- W WOULD BE THE NEW KID ON THE BLOCK, SO, WE WANT TO BE A SUPER PARTNER, YOU KNOW? ESPECIALLY GETTING IN THERE AND SHOWING YOU EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE SAID IN OUR FEET, EVERYTHING WE HAVE COMES UP AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT WE CAN ACTUALLY DO. AND YOU GET TO SEE IT. SO, WE DON'T SEE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES. WE SEE ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT , THERE WILL BE AN EXTRA LOADER. THERE WILL BE AN EXTRA SWEEPER. THERE WILL BE AN EXTRA YARD DOG. WE DON'T SEE THAT AS A LIABILITY. THEY AREN'T MOVING, THEY ARE PARKED ON THE SIDE FOR MOST OF THE DAY. THE UTILIZE WE HAVE AGREEMENT BREAKDOWNS JUST LIKE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. THE BACK UP EQUIPMENT USES BACKUP. THERE USED FOR INCREASED VOLUMES OR EMERGENCY. WE WOULD STILL USE I FOR THAT. IN FACT, I WOULD TELL YOU THAT, BY ADDING OUR , EITHE HOUR OR WASTE MANAGEMENT, THE ADDITION OF BACKUP EQUIPPING, I WOULD SAY THE FACILITY IS MORE EQUIPPED TO ADDRESS AN EMERGENC , OR SOMETHING THAT COMES UP ON EXACTLY. INCREASE VOLUME, OR, I WE HAVE A MAJOR STORM EVENT, YO KNOW? WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SCALE OPERATIONS WITHOUT GOING OUTSIDE. IT'S ALREADY THERE. SECOND, BREAKING UP THE AREAS , THEY ARE DISTINCT AREAS. AND, WHAT HAPPENS NOW, AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS YOU HAVE HEAVY EQUIPMENT THAT IS GOING BACK AN FORTH ON THE TRANSFER CND TO THE CLASS ONE. YOU ALREADY HAVE LOADERS CROSSING THIS COMMON AREA THAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. THEY WILL TAKE A LOT OF THAT AWAY. MOST LIKELY, WASTE MANAGEMENT WILL NOT BE TO COME OVER AND HELP, SO WE ARE ACTUALLY ELIMINATING SOME OF THAT CROSS TRAFFIC THAT NATURALLY HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE YOU KNOW, TWO OPERATIONS ARE SEPARATE. THEY DO ZIGZAG. AS I POINTED OUT LAST TIME, JUST TO QUALIFY THOSE COMMENTS, I AM ALSO A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER. HAVE BEEN BROUGHT ON BY THE COUNTY , AND BY WASTE MANAGEMEN IN THE PAST. I WAS LIKE, THEY'RE NOT CALLING ME NOW, BUT IN A PAST LIFE, TO COME OUT AND DO THE OPERATIONAL INSPECTIONS OF THE FACILITY . THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS OF THE FACILITY , THE SAFETY, YOU KNOW, OPERATION OUT HERE. SO, I AM VERY, VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE SAFETY PART. SAFETY IS OUR NUMBER ONE THING. WASTE MANAGEMENT TAKES SAFETY A THEIR NUMBER ONE THING. THIS IDEA THAT I THINK WE ARE GOING TO GO PLAY BUMPER CARS WITH EAC OTHER, THAT IS TERRIBLE FOR TH COUNTY, TERRIBLE FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED, BUT IT IS ALSO NOT ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US. OUR GOALS ARE TO STAY SAFE. WE WILL GO ABOVE AND BEYOND, ESPECIALLY IN ANY CROSS INTERACTION. THAT IS GOING TO BE THE THINGS THAT WE DO OUR SAFETY MEETINGS ON, THAT IS WHAT THEY WILL DO THEIR SAFETY MEETINGS ON, I WOULD PROPOSE WE DO JOINT SAFETY MEETINGS OF EVERYBODY'S INCLINED. SO, AGAIN, WE DON'T SEE THIS SEPARATION OF THE TWO TRANSFER STATIONS AS THIS CRAZ IDEA WHERE WE ARE ADDING ALL THESE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE INTO QUITTING ON THE SIDE. >> THANK YOU. WHAT DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? THAT WAS LITTLE LONG-WINDED. >> THAT IS OKAY. WHAT IS YOUR ANSWER AS FAR AS THE LIABILITY WITH THE COMMON AREAS? WHAT WOULD GFL DO ABOUT THAT? >> AGAIN, I WANT TO STRESS THE BIG TALKING POINT FOR ME WOULD BE OUR WILLINGNESS AND ENTHUSIASM TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY, AND WORK WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT . UNDER THE SCENARIO WE ARE ALL PARTNERS. WE ARE NOT COMPETITORS, WE ARE PARTNERS. AND SO, WE HAVE SOME IDEAS. OBVIOUSLY, I THINK THERE IS SOM CLEAR DELINEATION BETWEEN THE TWO TRANSFER STATIONS. THE MAP THAT WAS PUT UP WITH THE DIFFERENT COLORS, THOSE ARE SOM DISTINCT AREAS . THINGS LIKE MAINTENANCE OF THE ROADS, THE COMMON AREAS, I WOULD TELL YOU THAT WE ARE 100% INVESTED IN COMPUTING AND HELPING MAINTAIN THOSE AREAS , AND PAYING OUR FAIR SHARE OF THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. YOU KNOW, THINK THERE IS LOTS OF MECHANISMS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN IN A PERFECT WORLD, WHAT I WOUL LIKE TO SEE IS WE WORK WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT, WE BOTH -- WE BOTH GET RESPONSIBLE SOLUTIONS FOR THOSE AREAS, AND WORK TOGETHER TO PICK ONE OF OU VENDORS, AND GET IT FIXED IMMEDIATELY. IF THERE IS A COMMON AREA, AND THERE BECOMES CONFLICT, I WOULD TELL YOU, I WOULD RATHER ERR ON THE SIDE OF WE ARE GOING TO GO AFTER IT AND [01:30:01] TAKE CARE OF IT, AND FIGURE OUT YOU KNOW, THE DOLLAR PART OF IT LATER, BECAUSE WE HAVE INVESTED INTEREST IN THE COMMON AREAS FUNCTIONING PROPERLY, BECAUSE THE SAME AREA COMING OVER TO TH CED HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT SECTION. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE I PROBABLY LEGALITIES AND ADMINISTERED OF THINGS THAT I A NOT PRIVY TO THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK THROUGH, BUT, TO ME, THOSE ARE SMALL RELATIVE TO TH $4 MILLION .00 SAVINGS THAT OU OPTIONS ARE PROVIDING TO THE TAXPAYERS OF CLAY COUNTY. WE THINK THAT THAT IS WORTH HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS, AND WORKING IT OUT. I DON'T THINK THEY ARE THINGS WE HAVE TO WORK FOR WEEKS OR MONTHS ON, I THINK THI IS SITS DOWN, AND IRONED THEM OUT IN A DAY OR TWO. WE ARE A WILLING PARTNER, AND WE WOULD B WILLING TO SIT THERE, AND COME TO THE CONCLUSION ON THOSE. >> ANY OTHERS? >> ONLY EASY QUESTIONS. >> I CAN'T PROMISE THOSE, BUT, I DON'T WANT TO BE PRESUMPTUOUS AS TO YOUR ANSWER ON THIS. BUT, I THINK COMMISSIONER BURKE ASKE EARLIER ABOUT WORKING UNDER CURRENT OPERATIONS PLAN . THAT SEEMS TO BE THE BIGGEST CONCER AS FAR AS THE TIMELINE WITH RESPECT TO THE DEADLINES WE HAVE TO MEET AS A COUNTY. WHERE IS GFL ON MAINTAINING THE CURRENT PLANS? >> ABSOLUTELY, WE WOULD BE ON BOARD. IF IT WAS SOMETHING WHER IT WAS A TIME SENSITIVE THING , HONESTLY, YOU HAVE A COPY OF OU OPERATIONS PLAN. IT IS SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME AS WASTE MANAGEMENT. WE DO NOT REINVENT THE WHEEL. NOR DID THEY. A LOT OF THESE ARE INDUSTRY-STANDARD THINGS. THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE VERY COMMON FROM TRANSFER STATION TO TRANSFER STATION. THEY HAD GOOD IDEAS . WE LOOKED AT THAT, WE MADE SURE OF THAT. SO, I WOULD TELL YOU, EVEN IF W HAD -- EVEN IF WE THOUGHT THER WERE BETTER APPROACHES TO CERTAIN THINGS, MY APPROACH WOULD BE TO OPERATE UNDER THE EXISTING OPERATIONS PLAN. WE HAVE NO HEARTACHE ABOUT THAT . WE CAN DO THAT. I AM NOT SURE W NEED ANY CHANGES. I WOULD GO BACK AND REVIEW IT, BUT IF WE HAD TO, WE WOULD WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND THE DEP TO LOOK AT DOES IT MAKE SENSE OPERATIONALLY? IS THERE A SAFET THING WE CAN IMPROVE? IS IT SOMETHING OPERATIONALLY THAT HA CHANGED FROM DAY ONE? THE OPERATION PLAN IS NOT A STATIC DOCUMENT. IT CAN BE CHANGED, AN YOUR SITUATION CAN CHANGE. IF AND WHEN YOU CREATE A NEW TRANSFER STATION , MAY BE PART OF THE OPERATIONS ARE ON THE EXISTING FACILITY, AND PART GO TO THE OTHER. WE WILL CHANGE THAT. THESE OPERATION PLANS CHANGE ALL THE TIME. I HAVE CHANGED MY LANDFILLS AT LEAST SIX TIMES IN THE LAST THREE YEARS FOR DIFFERENT THINGS AS WE HAVE EXPANDED OR CHANGED DIFFERENT RECYCLING THINGS WE ARE DOING. IT IS A DOCUMENT THAT CAN BE CHANGED , BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WILL REITERATE, WE ABSOLUTELY CAN OPERATE UNDER THE EXISTING OPERATIONS PLAN, ESPECIALLY TO KICK IT OFF. IT IS A GOOD DOCUMENT. THEY HAVE A GOOD PLA TOGETHER. >> I'M ALL SET. >> THANK YOU, SIR, WE APPRECIAT YOUR ENTHUSIASM. CAN YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY IN TERMS OF WHERE THE MATERIALS THAT YOU PICK UP THERE, WHERE DO THEY FORMALLY GO? >> WE WILL GO TO OTIS ROAD LANDFILL ON THE WEST SIDE OF JACKSONVILLE . >> OTIS, I THOUGHT IT WAS, BUT WASN'T SURE. AND THAT IS A FACILITY THAT YOUR COMPANY OWNS RELEASES? >> OWENS, YES, SIR. IT IS A LINED CLASS THREE FACILITY. SO I THINK WE HIGHLIGHTED THAT LAS TIME. WE HAVE A COLLECTION SYSTEM . EVERYTHING IS TAKEN T A BASED WATER TREATMENT PLANT , AND TREATED, AND, YOU KNOW, IT IS A GOOD FACILITY. FEEL FREE T REACH OUT TO THE FTP. HAVE A GOOD RELATION WITH THE TEAM. >> IS EVERYONE'S FACILITY SUPPOSED TO BE LINED? >> NO. SOME ARE GRANDFATHERED I . >> THE NEW FACILITIES ARE? >> WHAT'S THAT? >> THE NEW FACILITIES ARE? >> YES, SIR. >> OKAY. >> THAT IS A BIG THING, OBVIOUSLY, TO PROTECT THE GROUNDWATER. LANDFILLS AREN'T I THE CITY REHAB WATER AND SEWER EVERYWHERE. THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNITIES FOR LANDFILLS ARE. IT IS JUST THAT ADDED LEVEL OF PROTECTION THAT OUR FACILITY, BEING A NEWER FACILITY, WE ARE ABOUT 5 1/2 YEARS OLD? I LIKE TO SAY WE JUST TOOK THAT INITIATIVE ENDED IT OURSELVES. WE WERE ABSOLUTELY REQUIREDTO DO IT, AND AGAIN, CLASSROOM MATERIALS. WE CAN EVEN TAKE SOME ADDITIONAL MATERIALS IF WE LOOKED AT THAT DOWN THE ROAD IS WORKING WITH THE COUNTY. THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES >> YOU HAVE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS FOR A WHILE. >> YES, SIR. >> WE HAVE NOT COME ACROSS [01:35:07] ANYBODY ELSE WHO IS WITH THESE AS POSSIBILITIES IN THE WAY IT IS GOING AT THIS POINT IN TIME. HAVE YOU COME ACROSS ANYBODY WH DOES THAT? WHY WOULDN'T THEY I THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF WILL NOT SPEAK FOR STEVE. ME AND STEVE AND I HAVE WORKED TOGETHER. HE IS AWESOME. WITHOU HIM ON THE BACK. >> I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU AGAINST EACH OTHER. YOUR EXPERIENCE IS DIFFERENT FROM HI EXPERIENCE. I'M TRYING TO DRAW THAT OUT. >> SO, THIS IS SELF-SERVING. THE $4,000,000.00 PORTION OF THIS IS WHY I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER IT. THAT IS NOT ALWAY THE SITUATION AT OTHER FACILITIES. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE NOT -- THERE AR NOT , THAT I'M AWARE OF EITHER, OF JUST STRAIGHT TRANSFER STATION LOCATIONS. THEY ARE TW DIFFERENT BUILDINGS ON THE SAME PROPERTY. THAT WASN'T SOMETHIN RUN ACROSS. YOUR OPERATION HER HAS ANOTHER ENTITY. YOUR SINGL STRING RECYCLING HAS WASTE PRO AND THEY HAVE RIGID CALLING OUT, THEY ARE CROSSING PATHS WITH YOUR CUSTOMERS, SO YOU ALREADY ARE WORKING WITH TWO COMPLETELY SEPARATE ENTITIES OU HERE. I WOULD TELL YOU, OTHER FACILITIES , WHILE IT IS NOT TRANSFER STATION RELATED, I THINK STEVE TOUCHED ON THIS A LITTLE BIT. THERE ARE LANDFILL AND TRANSFER STATIONS, BUT I WILL SPEAK TO LANDFILLS A LITTL BIT. THERE ARE ALWAYS LOTS OF DIFFERENT VENDORS. WE OPERATE THE SARASOTA COUNTY LANDFILL AS OF JANUARY 1ST, SO, WE HANDLE EVERY THING ON THE LANDFILL. THERE IS A TRANSFER STATION OWNED BY A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT COMPANY. THERE ARE YARD WASTE HANDLED BY A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT COMPANY. THERE IS RECYCLING, DIFFERENT COMPANY. YOU SEE THE SAME. THERE ARE FIV OR SIX DIFFERENT VENDORS ALREAD WORKING ON THAT FACILITY WE ARE ACTUALLY CROSSING PATHS, ABSOLUTELY WORKING TOGETHER. AM SORRY, I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT YOU. >> NO, THAT WAS A GOOD QUESTION MY CONCERN IS THAT YOU MAY NOT BE COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES, BECAUSE IN YOUR PRESENTATION, THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT THE SIZE. SO, WHEN YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE IS A VARIETY OR A NUMBER OF VENDORS, ARE WE COMPARING THOSE TWO, LIKE, A SIZE SIMILARLY SITUATED? >> NO, I WILL GO BACK TO YOUR SIDE. ON ROSEMARY. AGAIN, WE ARE NOT INCREASING THE NUMBER O TRUCKS , YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT INCREASING THE NUMBER OF PIECES OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT MOVING ON A DAILY BASIS. WE ARE NOT INCREASING ANY POTENTIAL NEGATIVE INTERACTIONS WITH THE CUSTOMERS COMING IN. I WOULD ARGUE THAT WE MIGHT BE REDUCING SOME OF THEM. I WOULD TELL YOU THE ADDITIONAL, I AM NOT PRIVY TO HOW THE COUNTY WORKS AND WHA IS REQUIRED FOR THAT TEAM, BUT I WOULD TELL YOU, I AM NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE BIG UPTICK THAT IS REQUIRED FOR, YOU KNOW WE ARE NOT INCREASING THE NUMBE TRANSFER STATIONS. WE ARE NOT INCREASING THE NUMBER OF PERMITS, YOU KNOW? IT IS ALREAD A GENERAL PERMIT . MAYBE THERE ARE THINGS THAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT , AND OBVIOUSLY, I WOULD NOT DARE TELL THE COUNTY HOW THEY ARE GOING TO RUN THEIR OPERATION, BUT I WOULD TELL YOU THAT THE THING THAT IS GOING THROUGH MY HEAD AS I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, ESPECIALLY FROM THE LAST MEETING , IS THAT THE CHALLENGES MORE ADMINISTERE OF TO ME. IT IS FIGURING OUT , COMING TO THE TABLE, WORKING TOGETHER LIKE ADULTS, AND SAYING, HEY, WE WILL HANDLE THIS, WE WILL HANDLE THAT, WE WILL PAY FOR THIS, AND CREATE A FUEL TANK IN A DUAL AREA. WE WILL WORK TOGETHER WITH WHOEVER IS NOT -- I MEAN, I DON'T SEE THE SAFETY . AGAIN, WE ARE NOT INCREASING THE NUMBER OF BIG THINGS THAT CAN RUN OVER PEOPLE YOU KNOW? WE GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO WITH ADDITIONAL BACKUP EQUIPMENT, BUT THAT IS FOR EMERGENCIES, YOU KNOW? THA IS THE TORNADO. THAT IS THE HURRICANE, THAT ARE THESE BIG STORM EVENTS. >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER BURKE? >> 10 YEARS. >> AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFOR AT THE MEETING, WHEN ARE WE EXPECTING TO GET A NEW ELECTION? >> OUR NEW COLLECTION CONTRACT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT OCTOBER 1ST OF 24. >> NO, I AM SORRY, THE LANDFIL FACILITY. >> THE TRANSFER FACILITY? >> YES. >> WE ARE HOPING THAT IS ON THE RELATIVELY SHORT TIMEFRAME. WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING THAT PROGRAM. ONCE WE GET PROPERTY , THEN I THINK BETWEEN PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION , HOPEFULLY WITHIN TWO YEARS OF OBTAINING THE PROPERTY, WE CAN HAVE THE FACILITY. >> I ASKED THAT QUESTION IN OU PRIVATE MEETING . WE ARE GOING [01:40:09] TO BE EXPANDING AS FAR AS GETTING MORE AREAS . I WOULD NO BE WITH AS MUCH OF AN ISSUE WITH THE NEW ONE, CORRECT? >> IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT. WHAT OUR PLAN IS IS TO CONSTRUCT AN ADDITIONAL TRANSFER STATION , BECAUSE WE NEED TO RAISE AND REBUILD BOTH OF OUR CURRENT LOCATIONS. SO, WE WOULD EVER ONE OF THESE TO THE NEW FACILIT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE IT COULD BE REBUILT, IMPROVED, AND EXPANDED, AND THEN, WE DO IT TO THE OTHER ONE. AND THEN, ONCE WE HAD A NEW BUILDING WITH BOTH OF OUR CURRENT BUILDINGS , AND THEY GET REPLACED AND UPGRADED, THEN THE IDEA IS THAT THE NEW FACILITY THEN IS GOING TO BE OFF THE CURRENT CAMPUS, AND THA WILL BECOME OUR PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL SITE SO THAT WE CA MOVE OUR RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, VEHICLES AWAY FROM THE COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC. >> SO, IS IT TRUE THAT THESE ISSUES WOULD NOT BE THE SAME ISSUES THEN AFTER TWO YEARS AFTER WE GET THE NEW FACILITY THEN? THEY WOULD BE SPREAD APART, OR THEY WOULD HAVE MORE SPACE? CORRECT? >> SOME OF THEM, DEFINITELY. >> SAVING $4 MILLION 0/10 YEARS HAVING A NEW FACILITY IN TWO YEARS, IF WE DID IT, WE MIGHT HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE ISSUES ARE NEGATIVE THAT YOU ARE SAYING THAT ARE HAPPENING. BUT, IN THE LONG RUN THAT MIGHT BE A POSITIVE . WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? >> I PERSONALLY THINK, YOU KNOW THERE IS WRITTEN NEGOTIATION RATES. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT NUMBER IS A SPECIFIC RATE AT THIS POINT. >> WELL, IT IS CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO GO UP, OR DOWN . I MEAN, THE BID IS WHAT THE BID IS. WE CAN NEGOTIATE RATES, RIGHT? >> RIGHT, THIS IS AN RFP, NOT A STRAIGHT BID. >> BUT, THEY WILL NOT RAISE THE RATES. KAREN IS SAYING NO. >> NO, WE HOPE NOT. >> RAY. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT - >> TO GET YOUR QUESTION ANSWERED? >> I THINK SO. >> JUST A CLARIFICATION, THE 4 MILLION IS A TEN-YEAR SAVING. >> RIGHT. >> THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID. >> YOU SAID 4 MILLION, BUT WE ESTABLISH THAT THERE ARE ADDITIONAL EXPENSES WITH THIS CONTRACT. >> 200,000 A YEAR. >> THAT COMES OFF TO 400,000 DIFFERENCES . SO, OVER 10 YEARS YOUR SAVING LESS THAN THE 4 MILLION , AND IT IS INDICATED, WE GET IN TRYING TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER COSTS ARE, I CAN'T EVEN FIND THAT NUMBER IN TERMS OF SAVINGS SO, ALTHOUGH GOOD, I DON'T THINK THIS IS FINALIZED. WE'VE BEEN AT IT FOR QUITE A WHILE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER COMPAN THAT IS INVOLVED IN THIS THAT WILL BE NEGOTIATING A CONTRACT WITH FOR POINTS HAVE TO BE NEGOTIATED YET. THERE COULD BE MOVEMENT FROM THEM AS WELL. SO ALTHOUGH IT IS 4 MILLION ON TH PROPOSAL, THAT IS NOT WEIRD IS GOING TO END UP AFTER WE TAKE OUT EXPENSES AROUND THE EDGES O THESE NUMBERS. >> I AM GLAD YOU SAID THAT. THIS GENTLEMAN SAID THAT HE DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE COMMITMENT TO MOR EMPLOYEES. CAN YOU VALIDATE THA ? IF THERE IS NO MORE COMING AND GOING DOWN THERE ALREADY IS , THEN WHY WOULD WE HAVE TO INCREASE THAT? >> IT IS NOT STRICTLY ABOUT THE NUMBERS, IT IS MORE OF THE WHO IS IN CONTROL IF THERE IS COMMO AREAS? IF WE ARE IN A POSITION OF MAINTAINING CONTROL OF THIS AND NOT BEING ABLE TO MAKE A CONTRACTOR IN CONTROL THAT , OR, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN'T COME TO AN AGREEMENT FOR THEM TO SPLIT RESPONSIBILITY , AND WE MAINTAIN CONTROL, THEN ALL OF THE TRAFFIC CONTROL AND ALL OF THAT MANAGEMENT OF THOSE COMMON AREAS, PARTICULARLY THE CITIZE DROP OFF AREAS , IS GOING TO FOLLOW THE COUNTY TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. BECAUSE, IT WILL BE PART OF THAT LEASE WITH THE CONTRACT. >> BUT, DO WE HAVE THESE PEOPLE TODAY? DO WE HAVE THESE PEOPLE [01:45:03] TODAY? NOBODY DIRECTS. NOBODY DIRECTS OUT THERE. BUT, WE HAVE HAD ACCIDENTS. >> THE CONTRACTOR DIRECTS IT WHEN WE BACKUP AND THEY NEED TRAFFIC CONTROL , WE MADE A CONTRACTOR TO PROVIDE. >> MAYBE WHEN THEY PROVIDE BIG TRUCKS, BUT NOBODY DIRECTS YOU. I MEAN, I HAVE BEEN IN THE TRUCK WITH OUR TRAILER ATTACHE TO IT, AND WE DRIVE IT, AND SO MANY POINTS AT US, AND SAYS GO TO THAT BUILDING. BY THE WAY, W BRING THE SAME THING EVERY TIME, BUT SOMETIMES, WE ARE DIRECTED TO THIS BUILDING, AND SOMETIMES WE ARE DIRECTED TO THIS BUILDING. WE HAVE THE SAME THING. SO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RHYME OR REASON IS. AND THE GO, GO TO THAT BUILDING. AND THEN YOU ARE DRIVING, AND YOU REALLY HAVE NO IDEA WHERE TO GO I WOULD AGREE THAT SIGNAGE IS BETTER, YOU KNOW, BETTER SIGNAG IS A GOOD IDEA. BUT CURRENTLY, WE HAVE HAD ACCIDENTS OUT THERE RIGHT? WITH OUR CURRENT CONTRACTOR AND THE PUBLIC. >> YES. >> OKAY. SO, I AM NOT SO SURE THAT WE DON'T NEED TO EITHER AD SOMEBODY NO MATTER WHAT THE CONTRACT IS, BECAUSE I JUST DON'T KNOW . IT IS VERY CLEAR T ME THAT STAFF DOES NOT WANT US TO SPLIT THEIR CONTRACT. THAT I VERY CLEAR TO ME. BUT, I HAVE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS, NOT JUST FOR MY DISTRICT, BUT FROM OTHER THAT, SAY, 17 YEARS IS WAY TO LONG TO BE IN BED WITH THE SAME CONTRACTOR. AND MY CONSTITUENT WHO HAVE CALLED ME , AND SOME O YOURS WHO HAVE CALLED ME FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY, THEY ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW COMFORTABLE STAFF IS WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT, AND THE FACT THAT , IN THE PANDEMI TIME , IN THE YARD WASTE, WE CAN'T PICK UP YARD WASTE, WE CAN'T PICK UP RECYCLING , AND I GET THE DRIVE SORTED US. OUR RESIDENTS DON'T CARE. OUR RESIDENTS FEEL LIKE THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAD FOR 17 YEARS WAS FAVORABLE TO WASTE MANAGEMENT'S, AND NOT TO THE COUNTY , AND SO, THERE IS A LOT OF INTEREST TO HAVING MULTIPLE CONTRACTS. OR MULTIPLE CONTRACTORS. IN ADDITION TO THA , THINGS LIKE THE EMERGENCY ISSUE , I COULD SEE THAT BEING BENEFICIAL TO HAVING TWO CONTRACTORS. YOU SAY IT A LAMINATE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT, BUT BOTH CONTRACTORS BID ON ALL THREE SERVICES. SO, I WOULD THINK IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY, WE WOULD FIGURE OUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT. YOU KNOW? I UNDERSTAND YOUR SCENARIO ABOU THE TORNADO HITTING ONE BUILDIN . I THINK IT IS UNLIKELY THAT ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS WOULD BE DAMAGED BY A TORNADO, AND THE OTHER NOT, BUT I GUESS IT COULD HAPPEN, AND THEN, WE WOULD DEAL WITH THAT SITUATION. I GUESS, JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE. I WAS CURIOUS, THOUGH. DID EVERYBODY HAVE THEI QUESTIONS ANSWERED ON THIS? I HAD A QUESTION FOR STEVE. >> AND THEN, I JUST WANTED TO POINT SOMETHING OUT, SOMETHING FROM THE COUNTY STANDPOINT THAT I THINK IS IMPERATIVE FOR YOU T CONSIDER IS THAT, WITH RESPECT TO THE COMMON AREAS, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE CONTRACTORS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR LIABILITY AND CONNECTION WITH THAT. IF TH CONTRACTORS ARE NOT WILLING TO SHARE THAT RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE THEM ON, THEN THE WRECKS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT AND THE MISHAPS WOULD BECOME THE RESPONSIBILITY SOLELY OF THE COUNTY. WE DO HAVE CLAIMS, AS PART OF THE CURRENT AGREEMENTS, WE TENDER THE DEFENSE TO THEM . . SO, MY QUESTION IS WHETHER THAT CAN BE NEGOTIATED ON THIS END. YOU ARE RIGHT, WE DON'T WANT THE OWNERS TO SHIFT TO TH COUNTY. SO, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A MEASURE IN PLACE SUCH THAT IF WE WERE TO GO THAT ROUTE, BOTH VENDORS ARE AGREEING TO SHARE THAT VIABILITY. IS THERE A PROVISION THAT WOULD SECURE THAT? IS THERE ANY WAY TO SECUR THAT? >> I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE PART O THE NEGOTIATION STANDPOINT IF THEY WERE BOTH WILLING TO DO THAT. >> I THOUGHT I JUST ASKED THAT? >> THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO SHARE RESPONSE ABILITY FOR THE COMMON AREAS? >> CAN WE GIVE EDWARD A CHANCE TO REST HIS LEGS? >> YES. I HAD A QUESTION FOR STEVE ANYWAYS . >> I AM GOOD. >> OKAY. STEVE, YOU MADE THE COMMENT EARLIER, NOT TO PUT ON THE SPOT, BUT YOU DREW THE SHOR STRAW TODAY. I DID NOT KNOW YO ARE GOING TO BE HERE TODAY, SO, OBVIOUS, STAFF REACH OUT TO YOU SO, MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS, YOU MADE THE COMMENT EARLIER THAT YOU COULD SEE A NUMBER OF REASONS WHY HAVING MULTIPLE CONTRACTORS WOULD NOT BE BENEFICIAL. DO YOU CARE TO EXPAND UPON THAT? OR NOT? >> OH, I AM HAPPY TO. I HAVE BEEN WORKING IN OTHER AREAS RELATED TO SOLID WASTE AND NOT RELATED TO SOLID WASTE. THERE IS A BENEFIT TO HAVING MULTIPLE [01:50:04] VENDORS . YOU CAN FLEX ABILITY YOU CAN MONITOR ONE THING OVER THE OTHER. YOU CAN IMPACT CONTRACTS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT . FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, I SEE THE DISADVANTAGE. I DO THINK THE CONSTRAINED NATURE OF THE SITE MAKES IT HARDER. >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? FOR STAFF OR EITHER OF OUR TWO VENDORS? COMMENTS, OR I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION? >> I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR MANAGEMENT. >> OKAY. >> YOU WANT TO GET UP THERE? >> RAY CUNNINGTON, WASTE MANAGEMENT. >> IT TAKES A LION TO GET UP THERE AND ANSWER THE CALL. YOU HAVE HEARD QUITE A BIT IN TERMS OF GFL AND WHAT THEY ARE WILLIN TO DO ON VARIOUS ELEMENTS OF COSTS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. WHERE DOES WASTE MANAGEMENT STAND ON THIS? >> I MEAN, IN THE MOMENT, WE ARE ABLE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS COMPANY. GFL, THEY ARE TH FOURTH LARGEST IN THE INDUSTRY. THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO NECESSARILY SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THAT AT LARGE. I KNOW OUR COMPANY, BEING THE LARGEST IN THE INDUSTRY, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE MORE CORPORATE. I AM SURE THAT IF THERE ARE PEOPLE O MY TEAM THAT WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND WITH CERTAIN THINGS THA HAVE BEEN SAID, LET ME SAY THIS GFL IS MOTIVATED BY WANTING TO GET ANOTHER LINE OF BUSINESS O EITHER LANDFILL. I GET IT. I DON'T CALL JUDGMENT FOR DOING THAT. BUT, AS YOU HAVE HEARD MANY TIMES , AND ASK THE QUESTION, IS THIS BEING DONE ANYWHERE ELSE , THE ANSWER IS NO. SO, DOES THIS COMMISSION O THIS COUNTY WANT TO TAKE ON THE GRAND EXPERIMENT OF DOING SOMETHING THAT IS NOT BEING DONE? WE CAN TALK ABOUT SAFETY BUT, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE , ADDING TWO VENDORS ACTUALLY DECREASE THE SAFETY AND SECURIT . IT DOES NOT INCREASE IT. AND SECURITY IS PARAMOUNT. AS YOU ALREADY MENTIONED , CLAY COUNT EMPLOYEES THAT WERE THERE , AND THE DUPLICITY OF VENDORS THAT UTILIZE THE FACILITY , AS WELL AS RESIDENTS, OR THINGS GOING T ALWAYS BE DONE PERFECTLY? NO. BUT, SAFETY IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO US , AND I WILL, I YOU DON'T MIND, I CAN BRING UP OUR SENIOR DISTRICT MANAGER, WH OVERSEES ALL OF OUR REGIONAL LANDFILLS AND TRANSFER STATION TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THAT IN MOR DETAIL IF YOU WOULD LIKE. >> NO, I AM JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT , DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY THE BOARD GOES, AND EITHER WAY , IF WE DECIDE TO SPLIT OR DECIDE TO KEEP IT ALL ON ONE COMPANY, THERE ARE NEGOTIATIONS IN TERMS OF COMIN UP WITH A NEW CONTRACT. I AM JUST ASKING , BASICALLY FROM A PHILOSOPHY STANDPOINT, HOW WE ASK WASTE MANAGEMENT TO BE ELECTABLE IN SOME OF THE THINGS I KNOW IT IS A DIFFICULT QUESTION. >> IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT QUESTION, SIMPLY BECAUSE WE DO LIVE IN A LITIGIOUS ATMOSPHERE. EVERYBODY IS VERY FAMILIAR WIT LIABILITY AND COMPANIES OF THA MAGNITUDE . SHARING SPACES , BORROWING EQUIPMENT , UNFORTUNATELY, IT SOUNDS GOOD I THEORY, EVERYONE WANTS TO BE A GOOD PLAYER, BUT, WE KNOW THAT INSURANCE COMPANIES AND LAWS REALLY PLAY INTO THAT AND DICTATE WHAT COMPANIES CAN AND CANNOT DO. I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HEAR TODAY AND STAND ON THE AUTHORITY OF WHAT WASTE MANAGEMENT WOULD DO, BECAUSE I AM NOT IN POSITION TO SAY THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE CONTRACT , YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE RSV, IT DOES SAY THAT IT IS UPON NEGOTIATIONS . OBVIOUS IT, WAST MANAGEMENT IS OPEN TO NEGOTIATIONS. WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY PREFER TO BE AWARDED ALL THREE LINES OF BUSINESS WHE WE BID THIS BUSINESS. WE BID IT WITH THE INTENT THAT WE WOULD GET ALL THREE LINES OF BUSINESS . AGAIN, WE HAVE BEEN DOING THI FOR 17 YEARS. IF I MAY, MAYBE W WILL BE HERE ALL NIGHT , BUT MADAM CHAIR, YOU DID BRING UP THE IDEA OF THE COLLECTION CONTRACT. WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN DOING THE SERVICES FOR 17 YEARS AS WASTE MANAGEMENT. IN 2020, WASTE MANAGEMENT ACQUIRE ADVANCED DISPOSAL . IN 2020, OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PANDEMIC. REMEMBER MARCEL DOBBY, WE MADE MULTIPLE [01:55:05] PRESENTATIONS TO THIS BOARD ON ALL OF THE EFFORTS THAT WE WERE DOING, THAT WASTE MANAGEMENT WA DOING IN TERMS OF INCREASING WAGES, OFFERING A $10,000.00 SIGN-ON BONUS, OFFERING FREE EDUCATION TO OUR EMPLOYEES AND THEIR FAMILIES . WE BROUGHT IN PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE STATES, DREAM TEAMS. WE DID EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY COULD WHILE THERE WAS DIFFICULTIES GOING ON AROUN THE STATE. IT PAINS ME TO SAY THIS , AS MUCH AS I LIKE WORKIN FOR ADVANCE ROLES, THE EFFORTS AT WASTE MANAGEMENT MADE IN THA TIME WERE MORE THAN WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO. WE EVENTUALLY GOT THROUGH IT. I ALWAYS SPEAK TO THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE SHARED WITH THIS COUNTY, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A GOOD ONE. WE DID WORK THROUGH IT, AND WE ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT. MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THE PLAYER RATIO IS VERY LOW. SO, I DON'T THINK IT IS FAIR TO APPLY PEOPLE'S SEDIMENT ABOUT WASTE MANAGEMENT AS PERTAINS TO A COLLECTION CONTACT THAT HE INHERITED AS COMPARED TO A CONTRACT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN SERVICING FOR OVER 17 YEARS. >> I AM GOOD. >> YOUR GOOD? >> OKAY. >> MAY I ASK? I DO HAVE A QUESTION. DID YOU SAY THAT WE SHOULD NOT COMPARE -- WE SHOUL NOT COMPARE WASTE MANAGEMENT'S PREVIOUS LEVEL OF SERVICE TO WHAT WE RECEIVED BECAUSE WASTE MANAGEMENT ACQUIRED ADVANCED DISPOSAL? AS IF IT WAS US WHO BURDENED WASTE MANAGEMENT WITH ACQUIRING ADVANCED DISPOSAL, S THEREFORE, WE HAVE EXPERIENCED THE BYPRODUCT OF THAT ACQUISITION, AND THEREFORE , WE SHOULD ABSOLVE WASTE MANAGEMENT OF THE MISHAP THAT TOOK PLACE AS THE TRANSITION WAS TAKING PLACE? >> NO, MA'AM, I AM NOT ASKING FOR WASTE MANAGEMENT TO BE INVOLVED IN THEIR EFFORTS IN TERMS OF ON THE COLLECTION CONTRACT. I AM JUST SAYING, THE WASTE MANAGEMENT WAS ALREADY IN PLACE WITH THIS CONTRACT FOR TH OPERATION TRANSFER STATION , TH TRANSPORTATION OF DISPOSAL CONTRACT FOR 17 YEARS. WE HAVE PARTNERED IN THE COUNTY WITH THOSE SERVICES . AS PART OF THE ACQUIRING ADVANCED DISPOSAL, THEY DID ACQUIRE A COLLECTION CONTRACT. I MEAN, IT IS WHAT I IS. I'M SAYING AT THE TIME IN WHICH THEY DID, IT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT TIME FOR THE WORLD IN GENERAL. BOTH OF THE UNITED STATES, AND FLORIDA. IT WAS A DIFFICULT TIME. THE ACQUISITIO TOOK OVER A YEAR AND A HALF. AGAIN, IT WAS AT THE HEIGHT OF THE PANDEMIC. WE HAD PEOPLE THAT WERE QUARANTINED, THEY COULDN'T WORK , SO, I AM JUST SAYING IT WAS A DIFFICULT TIME. WASTE MANAGEMENT DID EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY COULD WITH WHAT THEY HAD TO MAKE IT AS BEST AS THEY COULD ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY. WHEN WE EVENTUALLY GOT THROUGH TO THE OTHER SIDE , WASTE MANAGEMENT, I THINK, AS I HAVE SAID , THEY PROBABLY DID MORE THAN WHAT THE PREVIOUS CONTRACTOR WOULD DO. DEFINITELY, WE ARE WERE NOT OBSTRUCTING ANY LEVEL OF RESPONSIBILITY. >> I THOUGHT THE ACQUISITION WA ON 2019? >> NO, MA'AM, ONE OCTOBER 31ST, 2020. >> THE SALE WAS CLOSED , BUT THE ACQUISITION STARTED A YEAR AND A HALF PRIOR TO THAT. >> IT WAS ANNOUNCED, YES, MA'AM BUT, IT COULD HAVE FALLEN APART. BUT, IT TOOK A YEAR AND HALF, AND A LOT OF THAT WAS THE PANDEMIC WAS THE REASON THAT I TOOK SO LONG TO GO THROUGH. BUT IT WASN'T MADE OFFICIAL UNTIL OCTOBER 31ST OR OCTOBER 30TH, 2020 , WAS WHEN THE ACQUISITION WAS COMPLETED. >> OKAY. AND THEN, YOU STOPPED OUR -- YOU HAD YARD WASTE COLLECTION ISSUES IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT . BECAUSE, IN THE SPRING OF '21 , THEY BEGAN, CORRECT? AND THEN, IN AUGUST O P 21, YOU STOPPED CURBSIDE RECYCLING COLLECTION FOR A YEAR? >> I BELIEVE SO, YES, MA'AM. I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE IN FRONT OF ME. >> I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. I DON'T WANT TO GLOSS OVER , WE HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION TO MAKE. >> YES, MA'AM. >> BUT, THE DECISION ALSO INCLUDES WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR RESIDENTS . AND I UNDERSTAND, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT CURBSIDE COLLECTION TODAY. BUT IT MATTERS TO OUR RESIDENTS. A LEAST THE ONES I HAVE HEARD FROM. I GUESS I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THOSE THINGS. AS FAR A [02:00:03] I AM CONCERNED, IT WAS NOT THE EASIEST TRANSITION. WE HAD PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEES OUT THER PICKING UP TRASH. EXCEPT WE HA PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEES PICKING UP TRASH THAT WERE DOING PUBLIC WORKS JOBS. AND WE ARE NOT A HEAVILY STAFFED COUNTY. SO, WE HAD TO PULL THEM OFF OF THE REGULAR JOBS TO ASSIST, TO USE YOUR WORDS, THE LARGEST WASTE COLLECTION COMPANY IN THE WORLD SO, IT IS NOT AS HOLD HANDS AN SING CAN BUY A AS IT WAS. >> I'M NOT SUGGESTING IT WAS. IT WAS A DIFFICULT TIME FOR YOU COUNTY, THE STAFF, THE COMPANY AND OUR STAFF. PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE STATE . WE HAD WASTE MANAGEMENT INCORPORATED IN FLORIDA . WE HAD NOTHING TO DO OF BEING ON THE BACK OF THE TRUCK OR DRIVING A TRUCK. WE WERE ALL DISCUSSING TONIGHT, AGAIN, IS ABOUT THE OPERATION O TRANSPORTATION STATION OF THE DISPOSAL CONTRACT. >> RIGHT. >> THE COLLECTION CONTRACT IS COMING OUT TO BID. WASTE MANAGEMENT MAY OR MAY NOT BE I THE MIX THERE BASED ON OUR BID RESPONSE. BUT, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS CONTRACT TONIGHT. >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> THANKS, I APPRECIATE THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR GREG , I'M SORRY, I HAVE FORGOTTEN YOU NAME. MORRIS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? YES, SURE. MANAGER WITH THE LANDFILLS AND TRANSFER STATIONS OF FLORIDA. DURING THIS , THIS DOES ADD A LITTLE BIT TO THE RESIDENTIAL OF ADS EVENTS. I SENT OPERATOR DOWN TO SUPPORT CLAY COUNTY. I HAVE BEEN WITH CLAY COUNTY PARTNERSHIPS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS IN CLAY COUNTY. ONE THING I WANT TO SAY AT THE END ONE THING IS THAT I WANT TO MAKE SOME FACTS ABOUT WHAT WE SAID ABOUT THE TIPPERS COMPARED TO WALKING FORWARD WITH ALL OF THIS. A STATEMENT WAS MADE THA WALKING FOR THE BETTER THAN TIPPER TRAILERS. PART OF THE REASON IS THE RFP WENT OUT , AN STAFF RECOMMENDED TIPPER TRAILERS OVER WALKING FORCE. THERE IS A REASON FOR THAT. TO TRAILERS THE TRAILER THAT GOES AND IT HAS A TIPPER , TO MAKES THEIR SURE THAT YOU WILL UNDERSTAND, THE TIPPER IS A VER SAFE OPERATION. WE HAVE THREE O THEM. IF IT GOES DOWN, IF MECHANICAL GOES DOWN, WE HAVE AUXILIARY ENGINES THAT WE CAN BRING UP , AND PUT IN THE THREE CONNECTIONS, TWO HOSES AND ELECTRICAL, AND WE CAN HAVE THA BACK IN OPERATION IN LESS THAN TWO HOURS. WALKING FLOORS , WALKING FLOORS IS ONLY USED WHE YOU DON'T HAVE TIPPER TRAILERS. WHAT HAPPENED WITH WALKING FLOORS , ONE THING IS HYDRAULICS. EACH TRUCK NEEDS T HAVE A HYDRAULIC TANK ON THE TRUCKS. THE TRAILERS HAVE HOSE ON THESE WALKING FORCE. SO, WHAT HAPPENS WITH HYDRAULIC TAN THAN A HOSE? HAVE A HUGE POTENTIAL FOR LEAKS. SO, IF THEY ARE SITTING AROUND, THEY ARE GOING TO LEAK, OR POTENTIALLY LEAK. WHEN YOU TAL ABOUT THE PERMIT, THE STORMWATE PERMIT , YOU COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE A LOT OF LEAKS ON THESE TRUCKS AND TRAILERS GOING TO AND FROM THE LANDFILL, BECAUSE EVERY TRUCK HAS TO HAVE A HYDRAULIC TANK. SO, THE TIPPERS ARE THE WAY TO GO, WHICH THE RFP SAID. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT TO TRAILERS CAN HOLD TWO MORE TIMES, APPROXIMATELY TWO MORE TONS THAN A WALKING FOUR, BECAUSE IT IS LESS WEIGHT. IT SAYS THAT THE CHIPPER TRAILER WAS MENTIONED AS A VIBRATOR. IT DOES NOT HAVE THAT, IT HAS WALKING FLOORS. HE WALKS ON THIS. WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WALKING FORCE INTO. A TIPPER I A MUCH MORE ENVIRONMENT WE FRIENDLY, IF WE DO HAVE A ISSU ON THE TIPPER, WE ARE ON A LANDFILL TO CONTROL IT. THE [02:05:02] OTHER THING , AND I WOULD LIKE ERIC PARKER, WHO IS OUR EMP MANAGER, TO TALK ABOUT THE WAY OUR LANDFILLS ARE DESIGNED , ON THING IS, WE HAVE BEEN PARTNERS HERE, LIKE I HAVE SAID, FOR OVER 17 YEARS IN CLAY COUNTY. WE HAVE OWNERSHIP HERE AT CLAY COUNTY. WE PUT THIS RFP OUT BECAUSE WE MANAGED THE LANDFILL , AND THE MULCH AREAS THAT WE HAVE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PASS-THROUGH. THIS IS ONE OF OU LANDFILLS THAT WE CAN MANAGE, I WOULD GO HERE THE WAY IT WAS SE UP. WE ARE NOT GOING TO SPLIT THIS CONTRACT. WE WANT TO GIVE THE BEST SERVICE THAT WE HAVE THROUGH THE STAFF FOR ALL OF THESE YEARS. AND ONE THING TO WE HAVE A PERSONAL OWNERSHIP HERE IN CLAY COUNTY. THERE WER TWO BODIES FOR THE LANDFILL. IT'S OVER COLLOCATED. ALL I HAD TO DO WAS TELL THE STAFF BACK THEN NO, WE CAN'T DO THIS IN THERE. BUT, WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT. WE ARE GOING TO BE PARTNERS WITH CLAY COUNTY, LIKE WE HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST 17 YEARS. LET ME TELL YOU, THAT LITTLE GIRL, I HAVE A LITTLE GIRL. WE BROUGHT IT HOME, AND WE GAVE CLOSURE. SUSAN, THE OTHER ONE THAT WENT MISSING , SHE WENT MISSING IN OCTOBER. W FOUND HER AT THE END OF JANUARY . IT'S A WAY THAT WE MANAGE THINGS. IT'S JUST THE COMPASSIO THAT WE HAVE. WE'VE GOT LITTLE CROSSES IN ALL OF THIS STUFF UP THERE. SO, WE HAVE OWNERSHIP HERE IN CLAY COUNTY. THE FBI SAID , THEY CALLED ME AFTER EVERYTHING WAS OVER WITH WITH SUSAN, AND THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME EVER THAT A BODY HAS BEEN EXCAVATED OUT OF THE LANDFILL. SO, THE THING IS, I AM HERE TODAY THAT WE SHOW OUR TRACK RECORD OF WHAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS OVER 50 YEARS. NOT SINCE 2008. OUR LANDFILL IS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. ERIC CAN SPEAK ON OUR LANDFILL ON OLD KINGS ROAD OR NOT. I'M JUST TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT HAPPENED. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BURK HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU. >> I WANT TO TELL YOU, I SEE YOUR PASSION, AND I AM VERY GRATEFUL FOR YOU. IT DEFINITEL SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE A WONDERFUL EMPLOYEE. JUST, WELL, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE 10 OF YOU AT MY OFFICE. BUT, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AS FAR AS THE TIPPER BECAUSE, IS IT A PINION? BECAUSE THE OTHER GFL SAID THA THEY FELT LIKE THE OTHER WAS TH BEST. YOU SAY IT IS THE BEST, BUT, IS THAT AN OPINION? SO HOW DO WE KNOW THAT? >> WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, COMMISSIONER BURKE, A TIP OR TI TRAILER DOES NOT HAVE HYDRAULI HOSES OPERATE THE MECHANICAL STUFF ON THE CHIPPER. SO, YOU HAVE A VERY POTENTIAL HUGE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT . IF A HOS BREAKS, YOU WILL LOSE HYDRAULIC OIL. IF YOU WAS AT THE SITE, YO JUST INCREASE IT. EVERY SINGLE TRAILER HAS TO HAVE THIS. THE TRUCKS THAT PULL THE TRAILERS, ALL OF THEM HAVE TO HAVE HYDRAULIC TANKS WITH PTOS ON IT TO OPERATE THE TIPPER FOR THE WALKING FOR SIDE. SO, YES, IT IS A DIFFERENCE. THE DIFFERENCE IS LESS ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT FOR TIBOR TRAILERS. SO, LET'S TRUCKS CAN BE ON THE ROAD FOR THIS. SO, THAT IS THE REASON THAT TIPPER TRAILERS IS THE WAY TO GO FOR TRANSFER STATIONS FOR WALKING FORCE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, MORRIS. >> THANK YOU. CAN I HAVE ERIC, PEER TO SPEAK TO DEFEND US ABOUT THE LINER? >> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T THINK SO, BUT THANK YOU. LET'S BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. >> I HAVE SEVERAL COMMENTS. HATE TO EVEN TALK ABOUT TIBOR O WALKING FLOOR, BUT RFP ASKED FOR TIPPERS. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT WERE WE WERE AT? HOW DID [02:10:04] WE APPROACH TIPPER WALKING FLOOR RFP? >> WE REQUESTED TIPPERS IS THE PREFERRED OPTION. >> THE PREFERRED OPTION? OKAY. I GUESS I AM TORN HERE, BECAUS THERE IS SAVINGS, BUT THERE IS AN ALLEGED EXPENSE WITH THIS OPTION. I GO BACK, I WILL SAY, GO BACK , WE HIRED PROFESSIONALS IN THE FIELD , AN WE HAD A SELECTION COMMITTEE. THE SELECTION COMMITTEE DID THEIR JOB, AND EVALUATED BOTH PROPOSALS. IT WAS A DISTINCT DIFFERENCE IN THE SELECTION COMMITTEE. WE GO BACK TO STAFF -- WELL, THE COMMITTEE, THERE WAS SAVINGS IN THE WASTE MANAGEMENT CONTRACT. WE GO BACK TO PAST PERFORMANCE, AND I AM JUST TALKING ABOUT COLLECTION, AND CND OR TND. WE KEEP MIXIN AND MATCHING THE COLLECTION CONTRACT . THAT IS A DIFFERENT DAY. THERE ARE DIFFERENT ISSUE THERE. BUT, I THINK WE HAVE TO EVALUATE THIS ON ITS OWN MERITS THIS TRANSFER TND CONTRACT OF 17 YEARS EXPERIENCE. WE HIRED AN EXPERT WITNESS IN INSPECTIONS, AND YOU SAW THE RESULTS. WE ASKED HEATHER TO INITIATE THIS CONTRACT, AND HE ANALYSIS POINTED US TOWARDS WASTE MANAGEMENT. LASTLY, I THINK STAFF IS DEFINITELY LEANING IN THAT DIRECTION. >> AND I JUST ASK -- >> I HAVE BEFORE RIGHT NOW. >> YOU SAID HEATHER GAVE YOU INFORMATION, I GAIT GOT NO INFORMATION FROM HEATHER. I DI NOT SEE IT, BUT GO AHEAD. >> OKAY. JUST ORGANIZATIONALLY WHEN YOU MIX AND MATCH , YOU'R ASKING FOR A CONFLICT FOR A PROBLEM THAT DOES NOT EXIST TODAY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THESE EXPERT OPINIONS , THEY LEAD YOU TOWARDS A DIRECTION. THE COLLECTION CONTRACT IS COMING UP NEXT. I WILL COME AS MANY BIDDERS AS WE GET, AND WE WILL EVALUATE THAT AS IT COMES. SO FAR, THE TRANSFER PROBLEM DISPOSAL PROBLEM DOES NOT EXIST WE HAVE HAD 17 YEARS OF GOOD SERVICE IS WHAT I AM HEARING. SO, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE WASTE MANAGEMENT BID AS RECOMMENDED BY THE SELECTIO COUNTY. >> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO W HAVE A SECOND? >> I WILL SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> MADAM CHAIR, I AM HAPPY TO OPEN UP DISCUSSION. UNFORTUNATELY, UNLIKE YOURSELF, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY CALLS FROM CONSTITUENTS IN REGARDS T THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT. I CERTAINLY HAVEN'T GONE CALLS OVER THE YEARS OVER PICKUP OR THE LACK THEREOF. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE DECISION ON THEIR BEHALF. I TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSL IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT ALL THE ELEMENTS OF THIS. I THINK JUST THE SIMPLE DISCUSSION OF TIPPE VERSUS WALKING FOUR INDICATES HOW TREACHEROUS A SPLIT DECISIO WOULD BE. IS THE TIP OR BETTER WALKING FOR BETTER? EVEN THOUG WE DID NOT ASK FOR THAT, WE ASK THEM TO GO TIPPER , THEY SUGGESTED THAT WE GO WITH WALKING BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE FAMILIAR WITH THAT. THAT MAY SEEM LIKE A SMALL THING, BUT THAT MAY BE DETERMINATION FOR OUR MANAGEMENT AS TO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO. IT IS HARD T BELIEVE THAT, IN A HIGHLY COMPETITIVE BUSINESS AS WE ARE DISCUSSING HERE TODAY , THE TWO VERY LARGE COMPANIES ARE WORKING TOGETHER, OR TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER AFTER THE PERIOD IS OVER, THAT COULD BE PART WIT SOME PROBLEMS. WE ARE SITTING IN THE MIDDLE WITH A STRIPED SHIRT TRYING TO REFEREE THOSE PROBLEMS. IN THE 6 1/2 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN SERVING ON THIS BOARD, AND PROBABLY A YEAR AND [02:15:01] HALF BEFORE THAT, AS I ATTENDED EACH OF THE COMMISSION MEETINGS PRIOR TO BEING ELECTED TO THE SEATS, I DON'T RECALL ANY SITUATION OR PROBLEM THAT CAME UP IN REGARDS TO THAT. THERE WERE SOME USUAL OPERATIONAL THINGS THAT HAD TO BE DISCUSSED SO, MAYBE LITTLE BIT MORE THA SEVEN YEARS, I'VE PERSONALLY BEEN ABLE TO SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN TERMS OF HAULING. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE COLLECTIO AGAIN, AND I THINK THERE IS AN AGREEMENT FOR STEPPING DOWN TH LINE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. WHETHER IT IS A CLASS ONE , OR THE CND AND YARD WAYS, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT . TAKING IT FROM ROSEMARY HILL, AND TAKING IT TO WHEREVER THIS NEEDS TO GO. FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I DON'T LIKE TO CHANGE A HORSE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, I THINK IT IS T EARLY FOR US TO TRY SOMETHING NEW. WE HAVE HEARD FROM VARIOU PEOPLE THAT THE COUNTIES DON'T DO IT THAT WAY. WE HAVE A SPECIFIC REASON, BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN TOLD WE SHOULD DO IT THAT WAY BECAUSE OF THE SIZE. MAYBE IT WILL WORK WITH HER, AN MAYBE IT WON'T. I THINK THAT I ON US IF WE THINK THAT THERE IS NOT SOMETHING HAPPENING FOR US TO SAY SOMETHING SO THAT IT DOE HAPPEN. WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. WE ALSO SPLIT THE RESPONSIBILITY, SO, TO ME, THIS IS A LIE. TO THAT RESPECT, I WILL BE GOING ALONG WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS , AND WE WILL GET OUR PENCIL OUT, AND START NEGOTIATING. >> OKAY. JUST TO CLARIFY, IS YOUR MOTION FOR THE STRAIGHT BID OR THE COST PLUS? >> STRAIGHT BID. >> I ASSUME IT WAS STRAIGHT BID "I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY IT. >> I BELIEVE IS WHAT HEATHER RECOMMENDED >> OTHER DISCUSSIONS? OKAY. I HAVE SET MY COMMENTS EARLIER. DID HEAR FROM SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS RISK. WE OFTEN HEAR THAT CLAY COUNTY IS A LEADER , AND THE COUNTY MANAGER HAS TOLD US AS BEFORE, WE WANT TO BE OUT THERE IN DOING WHAT IS BEST FO OUR CITIZENS. WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MAY NOT B A COST SAVINGS HERE AS ANTICIPATED, I THINK IT IS CREATIVE , AND I, FOR ONE, WHEN I MET WITH STAFF WHEN I ASKED FOR THIS TO BE SENT OUT, ASKED FOR CREATIVITY. SO, THAT IS WHERE I TEND TO LEAN. AT ANY RATE, THAT IS MY PREFERENCE. I WOULD HOPE THAT BOTH COMPANIES WOULD BE PROFESSIONALS THAT I KNOW THAT YOU ARE. I WILL SAY THAT I APPRECIATED THAT WASTE MANAGEMENT HAD A SUBCONTRACTOR THAT IS FOR MY DISTRICT. I APPRECIATE THAT. WE DID NOT HAV ANY CONTACT IN THE QUITE PERIO SPENCER FARMS AS A PART OF THE CLAY COUNTY FABRIC, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, DISCUSSIONS? I AM SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL OPPOSED? >> AYE. >> AYE. >> THAT MOVES, 3-2. STAFF WILL NEGOTIATE WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT AND WE APPRECIATE BOTH COMPANIE . WE APPRECIATE YOUR BIDS, WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE WITH US, WE KNOW THIS IS CARRIED FOR A SIX WEEK PERIOD WITH OUR MEETINGS. SO, WE APPRECIATE YOU [21.  Lien Reduction (C. Stewart)] PATIENCE AND TIME , AND THANK YOU FOR COMING. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER 21, MS. STEWART , FOR LIEN REDUCTIONS. KIND. HOW ABOUT THAT? I'M UP HERE FOR THE NEXT THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX ITEMS. I JUST PUT A STACK OF PAPERS, AND WE WILL GE STARTED. >> DID YOU BRING A SNACK? [02:20:02] >> I WOULD LIKE A SNACK. I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT. THE FIRST ITEM, LET ME STACK THIS TOGETHER, IS CASE NUMBER CE-07-027, IT IS MENDOZA TRAIL, KEYSTONE HEIGHTS , MR. AND MRS FURMAN. THE CASE WAS OUT FOR QUITE SOME TIME. WE RECEIVED RECOMMENDATION OR REQUEST FROM MRS. FURMAN TO REDUCE THE LANE, THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HER CASE AT THE LESS SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HEARING, AND HER RECOMMENDATION WAS TO REDUCE TO ZERO, TO THE FACT THAT SHE IS BEEN SICK FOR QUITE SOMETIMES, AND HAS QUITE MULTIPLE TIMES TO TRY TO GET TH PROPERTY CLEANED UP, AND HAS BEEN SUCCESS. LONG STORY SHORT, THAT IS THIS ONE. I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS, OR MISS FURMAN CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> HELLO, MISS FURMAN. WE JUST SAID HELLO. WE ARE JUST SAYING HELLO. >> HI, HOW ARE YOU? >> OKAY. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS FURMAN? OR FOR STAFF? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING TODAY . >> EXCUSE ME , I HAD TO GET UP AND WALK AROUND A LITTLE BIT. >> YES, MA'AM, I APOLOGIZE. THA LAST ISSUE TOOK A LITTLE WHILE. >> IT WAS SOMETHING INTERESTING >> YES, MA'AM. MANY YEARS AGO >> YES, I OWN A BUSINESS. >> YES, MA'AM, THANK YOU. I WIL ENTERTAIN A MOTION? >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO GO OUT FOR SPECIAL RECOMMENDATION . >> OKAY, HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. WE HAVE A SECOND? >> I WILL SECOND. >> OKAY, HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE . THE LAST SEVERAL MEETINGS , THOSE WHO HAVE ASKED US FOR REDUCTION HAVE FAR LESS OF A REASON TO B ABSENT, AND HERE YOU ARE. YOU HAVE A LOT GOING ON, AND DID YOU ARE STILL HERE. THANK YOU S MUCH. IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT , AND YOU ARE STILL HERE. SO, THANK YOU. >> I AM HAPPY TO BE HERE, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS INTERESTING. I ENJOYED A LOT OF THE COMMENTS. I WISH THEY MADE IT A LITTLE BI SHORTER. >> ME TOO. >> WE WILL GET YOU OUT OF HERE IN JUST A SECOND. DO WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> WE MAY NEED TO KEEP HER IN MIND, AND UTILIZE ANY FUNDS IF THE SITUATION ARISES AGAIN , AN LASTS AS LONG THIS TIME. BUT, AM LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING HER HOME. >> THAT IS RIGHT. >> I AM YOUR COMMISSIONER. YOU LIVE IN MY DISTRICT. SO, I DO SUPPORT WHAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID TODAY. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I AM SEEIN NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, INDICATE BY SAYING AYE? >> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES, 5-0. WE HAVE WAIVED YOUR LIEN . >> WE WILL SEND YOU THE PAPERWORK. YOU ARE GOOD TO GO. YOU PAPERWORK IN THE MAIL. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. [22.  Lien Reduction (C.Stewart)] >> THANK YOU, YOU HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. >> YOU ALL DRIVE SAFE GOING ON. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY, I KNOW 22. >> ITEM NUMBER 22 IS CASE NUMBE CE-14-014 , 187 VENUS LANE, ORANGE PARK . THE PREVIOUS OWNERS WERE THE THE COST IS , AND THE NEW OWNERS ARE BREVAR ISLAND OAKS LLC. THE PURCHASE THE PROPERTY BY WAY OF A TAX SALE ON DECEMBER 7TH, 2020 TWO. THE TENANT AN APPLICATION TO REQUEST AN $80,000 REDUCTION TO THE LANE, WHICH WAS 163 $50.00. THE RECOMMENDED THAT THE LESS SPECIAL MINISTRY HEARING THAT THEY REDUCED THAT GOING INTO 83,350 , AND THEIR DECISION WAS BASED ON THE CURRENT OWNER OF THE PROPERTY PURCHASED IN DECEMBER CLEANED I UP IMMEDIATELY , AND WILL ADD VALUE AND BENEFIT AT THE COUNTY >> I AM THE AGENT. >> CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE [02:25:01] MICROPHONE? >> YES, I AM THE OWNER REPRESENTED OF AGENT. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS KATHY. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR KATHY? >> CAN I SAY SOMETHING? >> SURE. >> WHICH ONE OF THE PROPERTIES THE FINE IS OVER 160. SO, HOPEFULLY ALL THE COMMISSIONERS CAN HELP ME OUT HERE. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> MADAM CHAIR ? WHAT IS IS GOING TO BE? >> IT WAS VACANT PROBABLY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. WE HAD TO GE SEVEN DUMPSTERS TO GET IT OUT. RIGHT NOW, THE PROPERTY WILL B SELLING IT. IT IS WAY LESS THA THE FINE AMOUNT. >> SO, WHAT WE SELLING PRICE BE >> THE SELLING PRICE? I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME. PROBABL AROUND 120,000. >> DID YOU HAVE TO RENOVATE INSIDE THE HOUSE AS WELL? >> NO, NO. WE JUST CLEANED OUT ALL OF THE JUNK, AND CLEANED UP THE YARD. THE TRIM WAS MISSING AND DILAPIDATED. WE DID ALL THE CODE VIOLATIONS FIXINGS. GUESS THE PREVIOUS OWNER PASSED AWAY. SO, THEY DID NOT TAKE CARE OF IT. SO, WE GOT IT. WE ALWAYS TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTIES AT LEAST RIGHT AWAY >> OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KATHY? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I HAVE A PROBABLY OFF THE WALL QUESTION. YOU ARE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR BREVARD ISLAND . THE LAST TIME YOUR COMPANY PURCHASED A HOME, INSIDE OF THE COUNTY OR OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY, WAS IT SOLD TO PRIVATE OWNER? OR IN OTHER BUSINESS? >> THE LAST TIME? >> YES. >> THE LAST TIME, I SOLD IT TO SOMEONE IN BREVARD COUNTY. >> YES, WHEREVER. >> WE BY INVESTMENT HOMES . YO CAN SEE THE SUNLIGHT FROM THE LIVING ROOM. SO, WE GO IN AND CLEAN IT UP. IT IS THAT WE BRING IN FIRST-TIME HOMEBUYERS. IN ANSWERING THE QUESTION? >> HE DID, THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. >> OKAY. HAVE A MOTION TO EXIT THE SPECIAL MINISTRY RECOMMENDATION. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR'S, INDICATE BY SAYING AYE >> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES [23.  Lien Reduction (C. Stewart)] 5-0. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> YOU WILL GET PAPER IN THE MAIL FROM STAFF. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> FINALLY, OUR FINAL LIEN REDUCTION, MR. TOWNS. >> THIS IS CE-20-063 , 6095 TAYLOR ROAD, MAXWELL, FLORIDA. MR. TOWNS ALSO TURNED IN AN APPLICATION TO ASK FOR A LIEN REDUCTION. MR. TOWNS REASONINGS WAS THAT HIS DAUGHTER WAS THER ON PROPERTY, AND WAS HOSPITALIZED FOR A WHILE . IT SOUNDS LIKE HIS DAUGHTER IS NO LONGER LIVING THERE, AND HE HAS GOTTEN IT CLEANED UP. YOU MAY HAVE THE MORE PACIFIC QUESTION FOR HIM. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING FOR US? >> EVERYTHING I SAID IN THE WA ANYTHING ABOUT IT. I WAS IN TH DARK UNTIL I TRIED TO SETTLE TH HOUSE. I LEFT THE HOUSE FOR A TWO TIERED PERIOD. WHEN I LEFT [02:30:01] THE HOUSE, I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT AND THEN I CLEANED IT UP. >> ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? >> MR. MAYOR? >> CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY YOU DID NOT KNOW ABOUT IT? >> NOBODY TOLD ME. I NEVER GOT A PHONE CALL , I HAD NEVER GOTTEN ANY INFORMATION . >> MISTY WORK, DID WE SEND OUT NOTICES? >> OH, YES, SIR. IT WAS TWO YEARS, A MONTH, AND 28 DAYS. >> TO GO TO THAT HOUSE OR HIS ADDRESS? >> IT WOULD GO TO THAT HOUSE. >> THAT'S THE PROBLEM. >> IT WAS DEFINITELY OCCUPIED. LET ME PULL IT UP. >> OKAY. >> AT THE TIME, MY DAUGHTER WA LIVING AT THAT HOUSE. I'VE BEE TRYING TO CLEAN IT UP FOR 19 DAYS. >> I AM SO SORRY. I DON'T HAVE AN EMAIL THAT YOUR MEMBERS GETTING. SHE DOES NOT REMEMBER. >> SO, ALL OF OUR LETTERS AND NOTICES , I DON'T HAVE ALL THOS WITH ME, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THERE WILL BE MANY OF THEM >> WHEN THE PROCESS STARTS, THE GET THE 230 DAY LETTERS, AND THEN, AFTER THAT, IF THEY ARE NOT SEEING ANY MOVEMENT, WHICH IF THEY DID NOT GET THE LETTERS , THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE DONE ANY MOVEMENT. AND THEN, THEY RECEIVE A THIRD LETTER SEN THEM INTO THE MAGISTRATE. AND THEN, THEY WILL RECEIVE A NOTIC THAT THEY HAVE A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY. I WOULD SAY UP TO FOUR. MAYBE A COUPLE OF MORE I WE GIVE THEM EXTRA TIME. >> OVER THE COURSE OF HOW LONG? >> TYPICALLY, YOU GET YOUR 30 DAY LETTER, AND ESSENTIALLY, EVERY 32ND DAY THEY GO OUT. IF THE PERSON'S ARE NOT MAKING ANY ATTEMPT TO CLEAN IT, THEY GET A LETTER FOR THE MAGISTRATE. THE HAVE TO BE SENT THAT LATE LETTER 40 DAYS IN ADVANCE. IF YOU WANT A TIMEFRAME , IT'S 35 AND 35, 70, AND THAN 40. AND THEN 110 AND SOME CHANGE? >> WHICH IS REALLY MINIMUM. USUALLY, THE 40 DAY ONE, IT COULD BE THAT THERE IS MUCH LONGER IF THERE IS NOT AS MUCH MAGISTRATE HEARINGS AT A CERTAI TIME. >> MY DAUGHTER HAD A MAGISTRATE HEARING . AT THE TIME, SHE WAS IN THE HOSPITAL FOR 19 DAYS . A THAT TIME, SHE CALLED THE DAY SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN COURT THE YOUNG LADY HAD TO ANSWER SAYING AS SOON AS I GET THROUGH I LET HIM KNOW ABOUT IT. THAT I THE LAST I HEARD ABOUT IT. WHEN MY DAUGHTER GOT OUT OF THE HOSPITAL A FEW DAYS LATER, SHE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING THAT SHE KNEW OF AS TO WHAT WAS GOING ON. IF SHE HAD ANOTHER HEARING, OR ANYTHING, BECAUSE SHE WORKED HER TRY TO CLEAN EVERYTHING UP BEFORE SHE HAD BEEN HOSPITALIZED. >> MR. TOWNS, THIS IS AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY? >> NO. HYPOTHESIS YEARS AGO WHE MY DAUGHTER WAS HAVING TROUBLE WITH HER HUSBAND, AND SHE WAS GETTING A DIVORCE. >> HOW THIS IS CLEANED UP AND SHE IS NOT LIVING THERE -- >> SHE HAD NOT LIVED THERE SINC HER MOTHER DIED LAST YEAR. HER MOTHER DIED, SO, RIGHT NOW, SHE IS LIVING AT HER MOTHER'S HOUSE WHICH IS NOW GONE THROUGH COURT WHERE SHE HAS TO WORK ON THAT ONE. BUT, SHE HAS LIVED IN HER MOTHER'S HOUSE. >> YOU ON THE PROPERTY. >> THE ONLY REASON I KNEW THERE WAS A LIEN ON IT THAT SOMEONE WANTED TO BUY IT AS IS. >> YOU'RE LOOKING TO SELL IT? >> THEY ARE WAITING FOR ME TO GET THE LIEN OFF SO THEY CAN BU IT. SO, IT WILL BE OUT OF THE WAY. WE ARE TAKING TEARING THE PLACE DOWN, AND DOING SOMETHING WITH IT. >> THE MARKET VALUE FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE IS 55,000 . $55,500.00. >> WHAT YOU PLAN TO SELL IT FOR $40,000.00. >> EVERY MORTGAGE ON THE PROPERTY? >> YES, I DO. >> HOW MUCH IS YOUR MORTGAGE? >> 30,000. >> OKAY. >> THE INTEREST RATE IS 8%. >> OKAY. >> THIS IS BACK WHEN THE INTEREST-RATE WAS SKYHIGH. >> YES, SIR. IS IT A MANUFACTURED HOME? IT LOOKS LIKE IT FROM THE ROAD. >> YES, IT IS A MANUFACTURED HOME, YES. HAS OVER 2000 SQUARE FEET IN IT. THREE BATHROOMS. BUT, AS SOON AS THE LIEN IS OFF , THEY ARE READY TO BUY IT AS SOON AS THE LIEN IS OFF. >> OKAY. THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT. I WOULD SUPPORT THIS IF SOMEONE WAS TO MAKE THAT MOTION. IF THEY WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENT ONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN THAT AS WELL. [02:35:02] >> SO MOVED, MADAM CHAIR. >> SECOND. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WE HAV A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, INDICATE BY THING AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL OPPOSED? >> AYE. >> THE MOTION CARRIES, 4-1. SO, IT WAS APPROVED. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. TOWNS. >> COMMISSIONER BURKE HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU. >> WE SAID THIS LAST TIME , IT DOES NOT GOOD TO THE PERSON WHO OWNS IT. IS THERE NO WAY WE CAN DO THAT? WHEN WE GO TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS, CAN THEY PULL THAT UP? THAT IS THE ADDRESS THAT THE TAX COLLECTOR SENSOR TAX BILL TWO. MOST OF THE TIME, PEOPLE MANAGED TO PAY THEIR TAXES. >> WELL, SHE DID GET THE LETTER . SHE SAID SHE WAS IN THE HOSPITAL. >> AND I KEPT TELLING YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS HOW MANY LETTERS I HAVE SENT? I WOULD SA AT LEAST FOUR, AND SHE SAID, AT LEAST THAT MANY. AT SOME POINT IN TIME, PEOPLE WHO OWN THE PROPERTY HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE I HAVE A COUPLE OF RENTAL PROPERTIES. IF YOU MAINTAIN THE , IT'S FINE, AND IF NOT, WELL , IT IS IMPORTANT TO DO SO. >> OKAY. >> I ASK ONE MORE THING? I APOLOGIZE. I HAVE THOUGHT ABOU THEM BEFORE I STARTED ASKING THESE QUESTIONS, I HAVE A TIMELINE, I GUESS FOR ABOUT LAC OF A BETTER WORD , THAT I WILL SHARE WITH YOU THAT SHOWS HOW WE GET TO WHERE WE GET TO. IT IS A PRETTY GOOD DEPICTION OF IT. WE HAVE HAD THE SAME ONE FOR A FEW YEARS. SO, I WILL SHARE WITH YOU. >> THANK YOU. [24.  Acceptance of Unit 1 of Bradley Creek Subdivision] >> OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ? MOVING FORWARD, I AM KIND OF SURPRISED THIS ONE WAS NOT ON A CONSENT. ANYWAYS, ACCEPTANCE OF THE UNI ONE BRADLEY CREEK SUBDIVISION? >> IT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE, JUS BECAUSE IN THE PAST, WE MISSED IT, SO, WE APOLOGIZE. BUT, WIT RESPECT TO IT, JUST A YOU KNOW, IT IS ONLY UNIT ONE. IT IS 57 LOTS, AND IT WOULD BE THREE ROADS WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION. >> OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND? >> I WILL SECOND THE MOTION. >> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I AM SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN [25.  Request for Economic Development Mobility Fee Mitigation by Project Gator (C. Stewart)] FAVOR, INDICATE BY THING AYE >> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. FINALLY, TO OUR LAST PATIENT WAITERSIN THE BACK OF THE ROOM, WE HAVE A REQUEST FO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ABILITY FEED MITIGATION BY PROJECT CATER. >> I WILL JUST TAKE THIS ONE OF REALLY QUICK. >> MICROPHONE. >> THEY DON'T NEED THAT FOR ME LAUGHTER ] >> THE RENT LOT WAS ACTUALLY COMING ON. >> THE MOBILITY FEE ORDINANCE ALLOWS FOR BUSINESSES TO APPLY FOR EXEMPTION TO OUR MOBILITY FEES AND NEW IMPACT FEES ORDINANCE, BY THE WAY, HAS THE SAME LANGUAGE IN IT. FOR QT I TYPE BUSINESSES. THEY HAVE TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS IN ORDE TO DO SO. THEY APPLY, YOU GUYS HAVE THE APPLICATION IN YOUR PACKAGE , AND THIS COMPANY DID SO. SO, WHAT WE HAVE WITH US TODAY, WE HAVE THE EDC, AND THEN, WE HAVE MR. JOHN WITH PROJECT THE GATOR TO TALK ABOU THIS ITEM A LITTLE BIT FORWARD. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, YOU CAN LET ME KNOW. I WILL GIVE MARIA A SHOUT OUT , THE COORDINATOR WHO HANDLES MOBILIT AND IMPACT FEES AND ALL OTHER FEES SUCH AS THAT HUNG OUT WITH US THIS AFTERNOON AS WELL. TAKE IT AWAY, CRAWFORD. >> WE DON'T GET A SHOUT OUT? >> I GAVE YOU ONE! >> YES, YOU DID. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. I UNDERSTAND IN BASEBALL JARGON, IT IS BEST TO BE THE FIFTH BATTER IN THE LINEUP WHEN EVERYBODY HAD A BASE HIT IN FRONT OF YOU. SO, THAT LOAD THE BASES UP, AND WE ARE READY TO GO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME EARLIER THIS WEEK, AND THE LAST WEEK FOR THE PRESENTATION. >> BEHIND YOU. >> I KO INDUSTRY IS IS WITH US AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME ON THAT. AS A REMINDER , WE COULD TEE UP THE REST OF THAT PRESENTATION IF YOU WANTED THI TO BE PUBLICLY. IT COULD TAKE 20, 30 MINUTES. I AM JOKING. I SAW EVERYBODY TAKE A DEEP BREATH, SO, I AM GOOD WITH THAT [02:40:04] THAT NEW JACKET. SALESMAN. >> I WAS THINKING KENTUCKY DERBY. >> THANK YOU, MUCH NICER. >> I HAVE TO ADD IN HERE. I SAID LOOK FOR CRAWFORD, AND SHE SAID, WELL, I HAVE NOT MET HIM BEFORE. I SAID, WELL, HE LOOKED LIKE A COLLEGE PROFESSOR, ESPECIALLY IF HE HAS HIS ROUND RIM GLASSES AND A PLAID SHIRT. >> I WAS PRETTY CLOSE. YOU ARE PRETTY GOOD WITH THAT. YOU ARE PRETTY GOOD. I WOULD REMIND YOU AS ONE OF YOU SAID EARLIER WHE WE MET, THIS IS REALLY A GENERATIONAL IMPACT TYPE OF PROJECT FOR THE COMMUNITY. FOR THE COUNTY IN LARGE, BUT ALSO, FOR THE COUNTY COMMITTEE. AS WE ALL KNOW, THEY HAVE HISTORICALL HAD A LACK OF CAPITAL INVESTMENTS TO THIS MAGNITUDE PLACED IN ON IT. SO, WE ARE APPRECIATIVE FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY. IN THE COOPERATIO OF YOUR EXISTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUPPORT . I DID WAN TO SAY THAT THIS PROJECT, AND I DO HAVE SOME IMPACT NUMBERS, I HAD SUBMITTED THE END PLAN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT . JUST FOR THE RECORD ON THIS , DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE, THIS PLAN, WHICH IS ACTUALLY DONE WHEN WE INITIALLY SPOKE TO YOU GUYS BACK IN THE END OF THE YEAR WHE THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT WAS 225 MILLION, THAT INVESTMENT, AS YO KNOW, HAS NOW GONE UP COMPANIES LOOKING AT 270 CAPITAL INVESTMENT INTO THE COMMUNITY. BUT, THIS PLAN WAS DONE ON THE ORIGINAL NUMBERS WITH DIRECT AND INDIRECT JOBS IN CLAY COUNTY OR IN THE REGION . IS LOOKING AT JUST OVER 1000 JOBS THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT. THAT WOULD BE DURING THE CONSTRUCTION AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES THROUGH THAT. AS YOU KNOW, THE COMPANY HAS COMMITTED TO OVER 100 FULL-TIME JOBS AS COMMITTED TO 120 AT THIS POINT THAT THEY EXPECT THAT NUMBER TO THEN INCREASE AS A PRODUCTION CAPACITY CONTINUES. AND, AS YOU'RE ALSO AWARE, THE SALARY O WAGE COMPENSATION FOR THOSE JOB IS PUSHING 125% , WITH THE MEDIAN INCOME IN THE COUNTY CURRENTLY. THE TALKS TO OTHER ENTITIES IS BASED ON EARLY IMPACTS OF OVER $2,000,000.00 ANNUALLY . SO, WE DID WANT TO PRESENT THIS IS A MITIGATION FOR THE MOBILITY FEES THAT ARE EXISTING AS YOU HAVE IN YOUR STATUTE , AND OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THE SCOPE OF THOSE PROJECTS WITH THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT, TH NUMBER OF JOBS, AND PAYROLL FOR THIS PROJECT LEADS YOU TO THE MITIGATION OF THAT. SO, WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THIS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE GLAD TO TR TO ADDRESS THIS. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> QUESTIONS FOR CRAWFORD? COMMISSIONER RENNINGER? >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR JOHN. >> MY NAME IS JOHN --, I'M WIT --, AND HAPPY TO BE IN THIS EVENING. >> I DO KNOW WHAT YOU DISCUSS WITH THE COMMISSIONERS, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR FAMILY IS A VERTICALLY INTEGRATED BUSINESS OF FOUR GENERATIONS? >> I AM AN EMPLOYEE OF THE COMPANY. >> NOT YOU PERSONALLY. >> CORRECT. THE COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED IN 1951. WE ARE CURRENTLY THE SECOND, THIRD, AN FOURTH GENERATIONS OF THE COMPANY THAT ARE INVOLVED IN MANAGING THE COMPANY. >> YOU KNOW, THIS PROCESS , THI REQUEST IS USUALLY NORMALLY A SWEETENER TO MOVE TO THIS AREA BUT, YOU ALREADY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY. SO, I GUESS YOU'RE ASKING FOR OUR COLLABORATION IN YOUR BUSINESS VENTURE HERE IN THE WEST SIDE OF CLAY COUNTY? I GUESS MY QUESTION, AND I DID NO SEE IT ANYWHERE IN THE PRESENTATIONS. WHAT COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT DOES I KO PROVIDE TO THE COUNTY? WHAT CAN WE ANTICIPATE I KO TO HELP OUT IN THE COUNTY? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE AT THE OTHER PLANT THE JOB ALL OVER THE WORLD? >> I CAN GIVE YOU SEVERAL EXAMPLES. THE MOST RECENT SINGLE POINT WE OPEN THE COUNTR WAS IN TEXAS FIVE YEARS AGO. W WANT A PROGRAM WITH LOCAL SCHOO BOARD STUDENTS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOLS ONCE A YEAR TO GET THE THINKING ABOUT MANUFACTURING [02:45:02] JOBS . LAST YEAR, THE COMMUNITY WAS BIG BROTHERS BIG SISTERS ORGANIZATION DOESN'T OF A LETTER. THERE WORKING FOR THE FACILITY, AND ALSO FOR DONATION WE WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF TH COMMUNITY AND HIRE LOCALLY. WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME THIS IS A FACTORY THAT ONE CAN DECIDE OVERNIGHT OR TAKE IT TO MEXICO OR SOMEWHERE. ONCE WE PU THIS IN, IT HELPS US WITH BUILDING. THAT EQUIPMENT IS NEVER MOVING IN THE NEXT 50 YEARS. SO, WE ARE THERE. WE AR HERE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WE FRANKLY WANT TO ATTRACT THE BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE WIL HIT THE SIZE OF THE INVESTMENT AND THE NUMBER OF JOBS, THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT FOR JOBS. SO THERE IS A LOT OF HIGH-STAKES FOR EQUIPMENT THERE. A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, WE MADE A PLAN I ONTARIO, BEFORE HE JOINED THE COMPANY, WE BUILT A PARK FOR LOCAL COMMUNITIES THAT IS STILL THERE IN THE CENTER OF TOWN. I CAN'T TELL YOU WE WILL DO THE SAME THING IN THIS CASE, BUT I WILL SAY THAT WE WILL STRIVE TO FURTHER BETTER THE COMMUNITY. >> SO, YOU'RE OPEN TO OFFERS O RECOMMENDATIONS OR INQUIRIES I THAT REGARD AS A COMPANY? TO INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY? >> YES. WE ARE OPEN TO REQUESTS. AT THE SAME TIME , YO KNOW, WE ARE LOOKING FOR AN INDICATION OF ENTHUSIASM AND SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY ITSELF. AND WHILE IT IS TRUE THAT WE ALREADY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY , AND THE PROJECT IS GOING AHEAD , WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE WITH COUNTY STAFF AND WITH THE COMMISSIONER FOR A YEAR OR MORE. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH PARTICULAR ISSUE FOR A LONG TIME. THIS IS NOT A NEW ISSUE THAT WE ARE BROUGHT T THE BOARD. >> I ECHO -- HE CHARACTERIZES AS A TRANSFORMATIVE AREA . I AGREE, IT IS AN EXTERNALLY LARG STEP IN THAT AREA , AND COULD HAVE GREAT APPLICATIONS FOR THE FUTURE OF CLAY COUNTY. SO, I WILL APPLAUD IKO AND YOUR SELECTION OF THIS GREAT SITE . THANK YOU. >> YEAH, I THINK IT WAS THE ONE WHO USED THE WORD TRANSFORMATIONAL TO A GENERATION. THIS COULD CHANGE FAMILY TREES. JOHN, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HIRE LOCALLY . BUT, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, SINCE WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE THE TIME TO VIEW THE FULL PRESENTATION, ALTHOUGH IT IS AVAILABLE IN OUR EMAIL THROUGH PUBLIC RECORDS AND THOS KIND OF THINGS , THE PUBLIC CAN SEE IT WITHOUT EVEN HAVING TO MAKE A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST. BUT, MY QUESTION FOR YOU THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW IS, DO THEY NEED TO COME T YOU ALREADY KNOWING HOW TO MAK SHINGLES? OR, DO YOU TRAIN YOUR EMPLOYEES? >> WE TRAIN OUR EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE TRAINING UP TO SIX MONTHS A LOT OF THESE PLACES, WE ARE SIX MONTHS IN ADVANCE, AND WE ACTUALLY TAKE THEM TO TINGLING PLANT IN THE COUNTRY, AND TRAIN THEM HOW TO OPERATE. THIS IS NO SOMETHING THAT IS TAUGHT AT LOCAL COLLEGES OR SOMETHING . W HAVE OUR OWN WAY OF DOING IT. SO, WE ACTUALLY TAKE EMPLOYEES AND TRAIN THEM ON THE JOB. AND THEN, WE BRING THEM BACK TO STARTUP. >> AND THEN, I HAVE A LOT ON M MIND. >> I THINK I'VE GOT ONE. >> AHEAD. IT MAY COME BACK, IT MAY NOT. >> ONE OTHER OBSERVATION OF WHA WAS IN YOUR SLIDES WITH THE RECYCLING OF MANUFACTURING WASTE ON THE BACK END AND PRODUCTION LINE. I DON'T RECALL, THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE PART OF THIS FIRST PHASE ONE, I THAT CORRECT? >> SO, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT TOPIC WAS MENTIONED IN THE SLIDES. >> MAYBE I DID THE WRONG RESEARCH ONLINE AND. >> YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN OUR RECENT PRESS RELEASE ON THAT. THAT WAS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. SO, THERE IS A TEST FACILITY, PILOT FACILITY IN ONTARIO, WHIC IS RECYCLING POSTINDUSTRIAL . THAT IS WAY FROM THE PLANT AND SO ON. WE HAVE NOW DEVELOPED TECHNOLOGY AND A PLAN TO ACTUALLY RECYCLE THOSE SHINGLES OUR HOPE , ONE OF THE OWNERS O THE COMPANY TOLD ME SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, HE SAID HIS GOAL WA A FEW YEARS. I SAY THREE TO FIV YEARS. WE ARE NOT SHOVING [02:50:02] ANYTHING FOR OUR PLANT. ANY SECONDS, ANYWAYS SIGNALS FROM OUR PLANTS IN ANY OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE IN. OUR PLAN IS EVENTUALLY TO BE DOING THIS . OKAY? IT IS PROBABLY BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE GREEN , AND IT IS ALSO PARTLY BECAUSE THE VALUE IS IN THOSE SECONDS , IT IS WORTH A LOT OF MONEY. AN BECAUSE TIPPING FEES ARE GOING UP. THERE IS A FINANCIAL RETURN TO THE COMPANY . >> WE HEARD THAT EARLIER! >> YOU HEARD ALL OF THAT? >> IS A GREEN, AND IT LOOKS GOOD? IS IT THE RIGHT THING TO BE DOING? IT IS ALSO FINANCIALL ATTRACTIVE TO TAKE THOSE SECOND OF WASTE SHINGLES , AND RECYCLE THEM, AND PUT THEM BACK IN. THAT FIBERGLASS MATS, AND THAT TIPPING FEE. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF POSTCONSUMER. IF HE SHINGLES UP AND ALSO FOR 20, 25, 30 YEARS, THIS IS A NE INITIATIVE WITH ROOFING MANUFACTURER ASSOCIATIONS. RECENTLY, THE GROUP COMMITTED ALMOST 15% BY 2030. THE INDUSTRY IS WORKING TOGETHER T FIND WAYS TO RECYCLE SHINGLES THAT COME OFF OF YOUR ROOF. THEY MIGHT BE TURNING INTO ASPHALT, OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT CAN BE USED BY 2030. >> THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO BRING TO LIGHT, IS POSTINDUSTRIAL IS A BABY STEP , BUT A GIANT STEP POSTCONSUMER RECYCLING. IF YOUR INDUSTRY IS LOOKING AT THAT, THAT WOULD BE A HUGE GAIN NATIONWIDE AND WORLDWIDE IF WE CAN RECYCLE SHINGLES AND ROOFING MATERIALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. >> I'M SORRY, I JUMPED. >> 2030 THINK THEY CAN DO IT BY ALREADY BEING RECYCLED. THEY CAN BE USED FOR SOMETHING THAT BASICALLY, THERE RECYCLED INTO PAVEMENT. I THINK ALMOST 10 T 50% OF SHINGLES NATIONWIDE ARE RECYCLED THE PAVEMENT. THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE ROUND UP DRAMATICALLY? THE ROOFING INDUSTRY IS WORKING ON IT. >> THANK YOU. >> I REMEMBER MY QUESTION FOR YOU. AT ONE POINT, YOU TOLD ME THAT YOUR PROJECTED PLANT MANAGER IS A GRADUATE OF ORANG PARK HIGH SCHOOL. YOU AND STILL IN STAND FOR THAT TO BE THE CASE? >> WE ARE STILL EXPECTING AND PLANNING ON WANTING TO COME HERE. >> YES, I THINK IT IS NICE THAT YOU KNOW, THE PLANT MANAGER WOULD BE SOMEONE WITH LOCAL ROOTS WHO WANTS TO,. >> YES, HE IS HERE IN THE COUNTY. YES, AS OF FRIDAY , HE STILL WANTS AND PLANS TO COME BACK. >> THAT IS EXCITING. OTHER QUESTIONS? >> SO, WHEN WE TALKED THE OTHER DAY , WE DID REFRESH YOUR MEMOR THAT FLORIDA IS VERY VIBRANT WHEN IT COMES TO PLACING ROOTS. UNFORTUNATELY, THE INDUSTRY I NOT FIT FOR THAT. WE WOULD LIK TO HAVE RECYCLING FOR PLANTS. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE LAND, YOU HAVE LOTS OF LAND. WHEN YOU'RE RECYCLING, YET THE COUNTY MANAGER TALKING TO ANOTHER COMPANY ABOUT RECYCLING THE PLASTIC BOTTLES. WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE THE HOME OF RECYCLING THROUGHOUT FLORIDA. SO, JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. MAYBE IN A VERY SHORT, THE THINGS WAKES, FOR FOLKS WHO ARE WATCHING, YOU CAN GIVE US A VER SUCCINCT VIEW OF THE PROJECT? NOT A LOT OF DETAILS, BUT ALL O THE MAGNITUDE OF THE DOLLARS AMOUNT OF THE PLANS YOU'RE PLANNING TO PUT IN THERE? >> OKAY, I KNOW THIS LITTLE PROJECT IS CALLED PROJECT GATOR, SO I WAS IN THE COMPANY NAME . IKO INDUSTRIES HAS ACQUIRED THIS PROPERTY ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF HIGHWAY 301 AND COUNTY 218 . THIS IS NORTH OF WEST FRASER CURRENT SAWMILL OVER THERE. THE PLAN IS TO BUILD NOT ONE, BUT THREE FACTORIES THERE. ONE FACTORY FOR ROOFING SHINGLES, THAT IS A INVESTMENT OF $160,000,000.00 , I'M JUST DOING THE MATH IN MY HEAD. THAT'S $160,000,000.00 , AND THAT WILL CREATE 60 JOBS FROM THE GET GO. HOPEFULLY, THAT INCREASES TO 80 JOBS OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS. THERE IS A SECOND FACTOR THAT IS AN INVESTMENT OF $65,000,000,000.0 AND ROUGHLY 20 JOBS, AND THEN, THE THIRD INVESTMENT OF $45,000,000.00 TO BUILD A FACTORY PRODUCING ROOFING PRODUCTS TO GO UNDER SHINGLES. THAT IS AN INVESTMENT OF $27,000,000.00 , AND WILL CREAT [02:55:03] 100 JOBS FROM THE GET GO. IDEALLY, WE WOULD LOVE A FOURT SHIFT ON THE SITE, OR POTENTIALLY MORE. WE ARE NOT COMMITTING TO THAT AT THIS POINT. WE WANT TO DO WHAT WE COMMIT TO. OUR TIMELINE FOR THA IS STARTING VERY QUICKLY. WE HAVE TAKEN CARE OF THE WETLANDS LITIGATION , AND OUR REHABILITATION. AND WE ARE GOING TO BE APPLYING, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF APPLYING FOR BUILDING PERMITS FROM THE COUNTY. WE HOPE TO GET THAT BY SOMETIME IN JUNE, JULY AT THE LATEST. WE HAVE A THREE-YEAR TIMELINE TO BUILD THOSE THREE PLANTS . THE SHINGLE PLANT WOUL START OPERATION IN THE FIRST HALF OF THE SEASON IN '25. THE OLD ROOFING PLANT, THE FIRST HALF OF 2026. SO, IT IS THREE YEARS TO THE OPENING OF THE THIRD PLANT. CRAWFORD MENTIONE A LARGE NUMBER OF SPINOFF JOBS. I CAN TELL YOU GENERAL CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE THREE PLANTS WILL PROBABLY BE, MY GUESS, ARE SOCIAL WORKERS ON SITE EVERY DAY. THAT IS BASICALLY THE PROJECT. ONE OR TWO OTHER ITEMS THAT WAS JUST MENTIONED YOU MAY BE INTERESTE IN IS YOU MENTIONED OVER HUNDRED JOBS, AND WE ARE WELL ABOVE THE COUNTY AVERAGE FOR THOSE JOBS. ALL OF THOSE JOBS ARE PERMANENT FULL-TIME JOBS. EVERY EMPLOYEE, INCLUDING SOMEONE DRIVING MAKING OVER $18.00 AN HOUR, THE MAKE FULL BENEFITS FOR DENTAL, VISION, AND LIFE INSURANCE, LONG-TERM DISABILITY FOR THE PROGRAM. A TUITION REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM , GOING BACK TO SCHOOL, THE COMMITTEE PAYS ROUGHLY 70 TO 75 OF THE COST OF THE INSURANCE PLAN. SO, THESE ARE FRANKLY WELL-PAYING MANUFACTURING JOBS WITH GOOD BENEITS. I CAN TELL YOU, IKO HAS NEVER CLOSED -- W HAVE ALMOST NEVER CLOSED A SHINGLE PLANT. WE CLOSE TWO OF THEM IN THE LAST 10 YEARS , BOT WERE 60 OR 70 YEARS OLD. SO, W BUILD A PLANTS TYPICALLY RUNNING FOR 40 TO 60 YEARS. HOPEFULLY, THESE WILL BE GOOD FOR 40 TO 50 YEARS. I'LL JUST ADJUST ONE OTHER ITEM, WHICH IS TRANSPORTATION. A LOT OF OUR RAW MATERIALS COME IN RAIL . SOME OF OUR RAW MATERIALS COME IN BY TRUCK, AND VIRTUALLY ALL OF OUR FINISHED GOODS GO UP BY TRUCK. SO, THERE'LL BE A LOT O HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC. FORTUNATELY, ALL THAT TRAFFIC WILL GO WEST ON COUNTY ROAD 21 BACK TO 301. WE HAVE VERY FEW OF THOSE TRUCKS GOING EAST AND ACTUALLY COMING INTO THE COUNTY SO, WE EXPECT SOMEWHERE IN THE AREA OF 250 TRUCKS PER DAY GOING IN AND OUT OF THE SITE. YOU WILL SEE VERY FEW OF THOSE ACTUALLY ON THE COUNTY ROADS. WHAT ELSE CAN I TELL YOU? >> I THINK THAT IS GREAT. THAT WAS VERY WELL DONE, I APPRECIAT IT. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CRAWFORD. THE REMAINDER OF THE ASK INVOLVE TRANSPORTATION. EXPLAIN THAT ASK. >> WELL, THE MOBILITY IMPACT THING? >> WITH INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT, ROAD PAVING . >> YES, SIR. WE ARE WORKING THROUGH STAFF AT THE COUNTY AFTER THE GRANT DEPARTMENT AS YOU IDENTIFIED EARLIER IN THIS MEETING TODAY. WE HAVE SUBMITTE FOR A GOVERNORS JOB GROWTH GRAN FUND. AT THIS TIME, THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH THE COUNTY . IT HAS ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED OVER FROM D.O. TO ENTERPRISE FLORIDA, AND HAS ENTERPRISE FOR THE SEAL OF APPROVAL . THEY HAVE WRITTEN A SUPPORT LETTER THAT IS ATTACHED TO IT. I DID MAKE A CALL TO ENTERPRISE FLORIDA TODAY . HE SAID IT IS STILL NOTED THAT TH CEO IS NOT MOVING THROUGH THOSE UNTIL THE FUNDING IS BACK IN PLACE OF THE GOVERNORS JOB GROWTH GRANT FUND TO SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. BUT, HE SAID HE WILL MAKE AN INQUIRY TOMORROW. HE EXPECTS THAT FUNDING TO BE FINALIZED JULY 1ST. I THINK HE SAID FROM THE LEGISLATURE TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, WHICH YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY AWARE OF . BUT, HE DID SAY, HEY, YOU'RE IN THE QUEUE, YOU HAVE GOTTEN ALL OF THE SUPPORT THAT OUR SENIOR MANAGEMENT AND ENTERPRISE FLORIDA HAS . THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, AND THE SENIOR STAFF ARE ALL AWARE OF THE SIZE AND THE SCOPE AND THE IMPACT OF THI PROJECT. NOT ONLY FROM CLAY COUNTY, BUT TO BE HONEST, A [03:00:03] PRODUCT OF THE SIZE OF THE REGIONAL IMPACT. >> WHAT IS THE PRICE TAG? >> IS A LITTLE UNDER $5,000,000.00. I'M GIVING YOU DETAIL FOR THE ROADWORK. THAT WOULD BE 5 MILLION TO EXIST WIT PRIVILEGE ON COUNTY ROAD 218 , AND THEN, ALSO PROVIDE AN ENTRANCE ROAD INTO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK TO SUPPORT NOT ONLY THIS PROJECT, BUT FUTURE PROJECTS THAT WE ANTICIPATE THA WILL BE LANDING OUT THERE WITH THEM. THAT'S DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU DO HAVE FREE AND ONE NEARBY . YOU HAVE A REAL SERVIC NEARBY, AND YOU ALSO HAVE A HIGH-CAPACITY -- HIGH-PRESSURE GAS LINE THAT RUNS IN THE RIGHT AWAY OF 301. AND, YOU HAVE AN OWNER THAT IS READY, WILLING, AND ABLE TO DEVELOP. >> THE 218 PROJECT INCLUDES THE INTERSECTION ? >> YES, SIR. >> HOW ABOUT 301? >> THERE IS NO PROVEN NECESSARY FOR 301 THAT I'M AWARE OF. UNLESS STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED SOMETHING ELSE. BUT, THAT WOUL BE FEDERAL, I THINK . JUST AS A SIDELINE, AND I KNOW THAT SEVERAL OF YOU, WHEN WE SPOKE , IF YOU ARE ASKING, WHY DON'T THEY JUST DO A DRIVEWAY OFF OF 301, THAT IS A HIGH-SPEED FEDERAL HIGHWAY. THEY WOULD HAVE TO CROSS WITH A GUIDELINE , AND THEY DO NOT ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. YOU CAN -- IT CAN BE DONE , BUT TYPICALLY, HOW TO CLOSE MULTIPLE OTHER CROSSINGS THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THERE IS A SPUR OFF OF THAT LINE THAT WOULD IMPEDE THE ENTRANCE ROAD OFF OF 301 . SO, THE SAFEST, MORE SECURE ROUTE IS TO HAVE TRAFFIC COME TO THE LIGHTS AT 301 AND 218 , AND COME DOWN TO LATE THAT GOES INTO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK . THAT WOULD BE THE SAFEST , NOT FOR NON-PEDESTRIAN, BUT RESIDENTIAL CAR TRAFFIC AND TRUCK TRAFFIC. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CRAWFORD, YOU AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS. YOU HAD A STATISTIC THAT I THOUGHT YOU SHARED WITH ME. THAT THIS WAS NOT ONE OF THE TOP FIVE PROJECTS IN THE REGION, BUT -- >> I HAVE HARD NUMBERS AND WIT THE FINAL WOULD BE. BUT, AT TH TOTAL VOLUME OF THIS PROJECT, I HAVE ANTICIPATED POSSIBLY BEING ONE OF THE TOP FIVE LARGEST PROJECTS FOR THE STATE. THERE ARE SOME CAVEATS THAT MIGHT POP UP EARLY IN THE YEAR. BUT, THI PROJECT IS, LIKE I SAID, ENTERPRISE FLORIDA IS WELL AWAR OF THIS. I'VE BEEN IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH THEM. TO THEM, IT IS A VERY, VERY NICE PROJECT. THE DAYS THAT WE ARE THE PRODUC WAS $10,000,000.00. THEY ARE A 270 MILLION CAPITAL INVESTMENT IF YOU DID INDUSTRY SECTORS MANUFACTURING VERSUS BIOSCIENCE, OR AEROSPACE, OR THOSE INDUSTRY SECTORS, AS FAR AS MANUFACTURING, I AM SURE RUNS VERY HIGH , AS THE STATE O FLORIDA DOES NOT HAVE A ROBUST INCOME MANUFACTURING LOOKING AT THE STATE. >> OKAY, THANKS. AND THEN, DO YOU ANTICIPATE -- SO, THIS WOULD TAKE OUR MOBILITY FEE CREDIT BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, AND SOME OF NEXT YEAR . >> YES. >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE HAVE NOT -- WE HAVE HAD THIS IN PLACE FOR TWO AND HALF YEARS , BUT IN THE PAST YEARS, NO ONE APPLIED FOR IT, SO WE DID NOT USE THAT MONEY. DO YOU FORESEE ANYTHING COMING DOWN THE PIKE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY APPLY FO THIS? >> THOUSANDS. >> NO, IF -- IN MY OPTIMISTIC WORLD , I WOULD LOVE TO SAY YES IN MY REALIST WORLD, THIS IS WINNING THE TPC. IT IS A GREAT PROJECT FOR THE COMMUNITY. DO SEE ANOTHER PROJECT OF THE SCOP AND SCALE COMING TO OUR COMMUNITY ANYTIME IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO? I WOULD LOVE TO SA YES, BUT NO, I REALLY DO NOT SE THAT AT THIS POINT. I THINK THE BUDGETED MONEY THAT YOU HAVE FO THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR, THAT IS OR MIAMI, COMMISSIONER, THA THIS AMOUNT IS NOT ACTUALLY TABULATED UNTIL THEY APPLY A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY . SO, THIS IS ACTUALLY A TWO YEAR DOW THE ROAD PROJECT. IT GIVES UP MONEY TIME TO BALANCE OUT ON WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR. >> OKAY. WE GET TO GIVE REGGIE HE IS NOT HERE, BUT WE GET TO GIVE THEM ANOTHER HEADACHE IF W GIVE THEM THIS AWARD IF WE ALLOCATED? YES? NO? BASICALLY, WHAT YOU DO, YOU WILL NOT CARRY [03:05:04] IT FORWARD, BUT WHATEVER YEAR I IS THAT THE ELECTRICAL CLEARANC POTENTIALLY HAPPEN, YOU HAVE T MAKE SURE THAT YOU BUDGET WHATEVER AMOUNT IS GIVEN. THAT WOULD BE BASED ON WHAT YOU DO A AMOUNT OR PERCENTAGE. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING. >> OKAY. >> AND YOU GUYS SUPPORT THIS PROJECT THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE ENDEAVOR. THAT IS A PRETTY STRONG STATEMENT TO OTHER PROJECTS IN THIS INDUSTRY. IN OTHER PROJECTS AT LOOK AT THE STATE, WE CAN GO BACK AND SAY, LOOK, WE HAVE A, B, C, D. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION . >> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PERCENTAGES, I WOULD NOT TALK ABOUT DOLLAR AMOUNTS SPECIFICALLY, SINCE WE DON'T KNOW WHEN IT IS GOING TO BE. SO I WOULD SAY SEE THE PERCENTAGE NOT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. >> IF SOMEONE MAKES A MOTION. >> I WAS TRYING TO TRACK WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT. I GOT LOST ON THAT ONE, SORRY. >> THAT IS OKAY. >> I AM LOOKING FOR A PERCENTAGE. >> WELL, I GUESS, IF YOU GIVE U AN AMOUNT, WE CAN CONVERT IT T THE PERCENTAGE OF SOME SORT. >> WE COULD. JUST A MEMBER, I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE ASKED LANEY LITTLE BIT MORE, TYPICALLY, THERE IS AN ANNUAL, WHAT IS THAT? >> THE ESCALATOR. >> THERE IS AN ANNUAL ESCALATOR I THINK IT WAS 5% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE LAST YEAR? 8%? IT CHANGES ANNUALLY. >> SO, IF SOMEONE GAVE AN AMOUNT, IT MIGHT NOT BE AS MUCH JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE. >> AND THEN, WHAT WAS GOING TO SAY ABOUT THE BUDGET? FOR BUDGETING, THEY JUST WANT YOU T UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS MONEY THAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO PAY. IT IS NOT A CREDIT. HAS TO ACTUALL BE BUDGETED AND THEN PUT BACK INTO THE MOBILITY FEE FUND. >> IN THIS MOBILITY FEE , WHOEVER PAYS IT, WHETHER THE COUNTY PAYS ITS, OR IF IKO PAYS IT, THEY GO INTO THE MOBILITY DISTRICT THAT IS NOT CALLED DISTRICT FOUR, BUT IS CALLED SOMETHING ELSE. IT APPLIES TO THE 218 CORRIDOR. >> CORRECT. >> I MENTIONED THAT, BECAUSE THEY MAY NEED SOME OF THAT MONE TO FINISH. I DON'T KNOW IF HE WENT HOME . >> WE ARE SO MEETING HERE TONIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT. I WILL ENTERTAIN MOTION. >> THE REQUEST IS FOR 100% OF THE MOBILITY FEE. I WANTED TO MENTION THAT. >> NO MOTIONS? >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION OF 25% OR, A 75% DISCOUNT . >> OKAY. >> I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR DO WE HAVE A SECOND? OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> MAY HAVE THE MIC? >> SURE. >> I BELIEVE THE PROJECT IS TRANSFORMATIVE FOR THE DISTRICT, AND ALSO THE COUNTY AND REGION. HOWEVER, THE POLICIES THIS IS AN INCENTIVE TO MOVE. WE HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY IN THAT REGION FOR OTHER COMPANIES TO COME. SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO AWARD IKO FOR STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE. IT MAY NOT BE SO GENEROUS NEXT TIME . IT DEPENDS ON THE INDUSTRY, AND WHAT WE AR TRYING TO DO. >> I THOUGHT THAT ACTUALLY WASN'T TRUE. I THOUGHT THAT THEY COULD NOT APPLY UNTIL THEY CLOSED OR OWNED THE PROPERTY. >> I HAVE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY. >> I KNOW. THE COMMISSIONERS THINK THIS IS AN INCENTIVE TO MOVE HERE, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. THAT IS WHAT THE PROPERTY TAX ONE IS. >> I MEAN, YOU CAN APPLY, IT JUST WON'T COME INTO EFFECT. >> NO, THEY WERE TOLD THAT THEY COULD NOT APPLY UNTIL THEY HAD CLOSED AND THEY WERE THE OWNERS [03:10:03] OF THE PROPERTY. >> WELL, WE LET THEM APPLY BEFORE THEY OWNED THE PROPERTY. >> THEY DID NOT OWN IT UNTIL A WEEK OR TWO AGO. >> BUT, AS AN INCENTIVE TO COME HERE, CRAWFORD NEED SOMETHING TO COMPETE WITH NORTH CAROLINA TAXES, WHOEVER. >> THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS IS. OU INCENTIVE PACKAGE ONLY COVERS PROPERTY TAXES, RIGHT? JOHN AND I ACTUALLY HAVE THE CONVERSATIO THAT OURS DOES NOT COVER TANGIBLE PROPERTY TAXES , AND OTHER STATES DO. >> WELL, YOURS COVERS THREE YEARS. THE COVER THREE YEARS O TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY. >> OKAY. >> AT 50%, OTHER COMMUNITIES INCLUDE , THIS IS A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION, BUT THEY INCLUDE TANGIBLE PROPERTY BECAUSE, AND JOHN IS VERY KEEN ON THAT DIFFERENCE. BECAUSE THE BUILDING COSTS X, AND THE COST IS X TIMES X, X. IS IT WAS CURRENTLY WRITTEN UP. BUT I WIL SAY , AGAIN, IN A SEPARATE CONVERSATION ON COMMUNITY INCENTIVES AND INVESTMENTS, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY THROUGH A THIRD-PARTY INDUSTRY CONSULTANT. THAT IS TO UPDATE THE COUNTY'S OVERALL INCENTIVE POLICY , INVESTMENT POLICY. SO THAT WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU , BUT I WILL SAY, THAT WILL BE THREE, FOUR, FIVE MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD. I THINK THE MOBILITY I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE INTENT WAS, COMMISSIONER, WHEN WAS INTENTIONALLY ON THE PAVEMENT OF THE MOBILITY. SO, YES, A VERY MUCH AS AN INCENTIVE FOR THE COMPANY. >> WE OFFER A FUTURE INDUSTRY T MOVE HERE. >> YES. >> THE OPPORTUNITY TO WAIVE THAT. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> IT IS IS NOT CURRENTLY WRITTEN UP IN YOUR STATUTE ON YOUR INCENTIVE POLICY. COURTNEY, YOU HAVE TO HELP ME HERE. IT'S A SEPARATE ORDINANCE THANK YOU. >> SEPARATE ORDINANCE, RIGHT. BUT, IT STILL APPLIES. >> CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT, TROY? >> TRAN 27 >> YOU HAVE TO TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE. >> YOU CAME IN WITH THE INCENTIVE PACKAGE TO INCENTIVIZ THEM TO MOVE HERE, INCENTIVIZE THEM TO BRING THE PROJECT ON. NOW, YOU'RE ASKING FOR A SEPARATE APPLICATION FOR THE MOBILITY FEE , SEPARATE AND APART FROM YOUR PACKAGE. >> YES, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. HAVE YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICY, WHICH IS FO EDC, WHICH HAS CERTAIN INCENTIVES. THEN, APART FROM THAT, WE DO HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE. THAT'S IN OUR CONFERENCE OF IMPACT FEE THEY ARE ALL OPPORTUNITIES THA ARE AVAILABLE. >> RIGHT. IT IS A MISNOMER TO THAT IS TO GET THEM TO MOVE HER WE HAVE CURRENT COMPANIES HERE THAT APPLY FOR MOBILITY FEE CREDITS. >> TRUE, AGREED. IT CAN BE AN INCENTIVE. >> OR EVEN YOUR SUBSIDIES. HE SUBSIDIES ARE, YOUR MOBILITY FE ISSUES, CERTAIN ISSUES . >> THEY ARE BUILDING NEW. >> THEY EXPAND. >> BUT, THEY ARE ALL DIFFERENT PIECES OF THE PUZZLE. >> I WILL DEFINITELY AGREE , THERE ARE THREE STRINGS . THE GOOD WAY TO SAY THAT. >> THEY ARE ALL SOMETHING THAT HELPS CLAY COUNTY AT THE END OF THE DAY. BECAUSE FLORIDA, HONESTLY, I HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH SOME OF MR. JOHN'S VOTES. I MEAN, SOUTH CAROLINA PULLED OUT A RED CARPET, AND THE ROLE THAT ANOTHER RED CARPET ON TOP OF THAT. FLORIDA DOES NOT DO THAT. SO, THIS GIVES CLAY COUNTY A LITTLE BIT OF A LEG UP FOR SOME OF OUR OTHER COUNTIES. THAT'S INCENTIVE FOR THE INDUSTRY TO COME HERE. >> SO, WHY HAVE WE NOT, AND TO HAVE YEARS OF BUDGETING AND MOBILITY FEE MITIGATION, WHY HAVE WE NOT HAD ANYONE APPLY FOR? I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU THAT, FOR INSTANCE, THE BAPTIST HOSPITAL, THEY DID, HOWEVER, [03:15:01] THERE WERE SUFFICIENT CREDIT THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN GIVEN THA THEY WERE ABLE TO UTILIZE. SO, WE DO NOT HAVE TO DIP INTO OUR BUDGET. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE HAVE DIPPED INTO THAT BUDGET, BECAUS THAT IS WHERE THE SUBSIDY INCREASES FROM. BUSINESSES DO MOVE HERE, THAT IS THE SAME PAR OF MONEY THAT WE USE FOR SUBSIDIZING WHOEVER MOVES INTO THE , WHAT IS A COMEDY SUBSIDIE THAT WE HAVE? >> BUT, WHOEVER USED IT FOR? I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT WE HAVE NOT USED IT. >> WELL, WE HAVEN'T USED IT. TH IMPORTANT PART IS, YOU HAVE NOT USED IT FOR UTI BUSINESS HAS APPLIED LIKE THIS. BUT, THE SUBSIDIES THAT YOU JUST HAVE ON THE CHART THAT YOU GUYS HAVE APPROVED IN THE PAST, I MEAN, WINDOWS COME IN THROUGH MARIA, THAT IS WHERE THE MONEY IS. >> BUT, HOW MANY HAVE WE NOT? >> TRAN 27 >> I JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT THAT MONEY ALL COMES OUT OF THAT SAM SUBSIDY POT FOR BOTH THIS PROGRAM AND YOUR STRAIGHT SUBSIDIES BASED ON INDUSTRY WITH MOBILITY FEED THAT YOU ALREADY APPROVED. >> PROBABLY VERY FEW HAVE BEEN DONE, IF ANY AT ALL, HAVE BEEN DONE AT THIS MOBILITY FEE DISTRICT. >> OKAY, I DON'T KNOW IF SUBSIDIES APPLY TO THAT. >> IF YOU GUYS RECALL WHEN WE FIRST DID THIS BACK SEVERAL YEARS AGO , PER THE MOBILITY FE STUDY, THEY WERE ALL WONKY THINGS THAT GOD SUBSIDIES. SOMEBODY MENTIONED CAR WASHES HERE. THAT WAS ACTUALLY IN SOM OF THE SUBSIDY LISTS, AND WE WERE , LIKE, WHAT THE HECK? 18 MONTHS OR SO, WE CHANGE THAT, AND MADE THAT A VERY DEFINITIVE LIST OF WHO CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. >> IT'S MUCH MORE TARGETED IN TERMS OF BUSINESS. >> IS FOR TARGETED AND WHO WE WANT TO GET UP SHOP HERE. >> WE NEED TO MEMORIALIZE THE SITDOWN RESTAURANTS. >> YES, QUALITY. >> QUALITY. >> IF YOU HAVE THE TABLECLOTH, IT TURNS INTO A JACKET. >> HE DIDN'T EVEN HEAR YOU ARE HE DID NOT EVEN HEAR YOU! >> THAT MAKES IT EVEN BETTER. >> I KNOW, IT DOES. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION? WE HAVE MOTION AND A SECOND. >> MADAM CHAIR, IF I COULD. NOBODY HAS ASKED FOR 100% OF TH MOBILITY FEE , WHICH IS UNDER THE THOUSAND OF DOLLARS, CONSIDERING THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WE ARE BRINGING TO THE DOLLAR, THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF THE PROPERTY TAX THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF, YOU KNOW, 100 JOBS BEING PAID ON AN AVERAGE OF 50 AND $60,000 .00 A YEAR , YOU KNOW, 25% , YOU KNOW, OFF OF TH HOW TO PRESENT THEIR ASKING FOR WE EITHER ROLL THE CARPET OUT AND GIVE IT TO THESE FOLKS , AN ENTERTAIN A GOOD FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS , WHICH I WHAT WE EXPERIENCED, AND WE CAN DUPLICATE THAT . I AM MOVING FOR THE HUNDRED PERCENT. THE MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR FOR 75, WOULD TO TAKE A VOTE FOR THAT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR 100% OF THIS MOTION FAILS. >> OKAY. >> I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS. I APPRECIATE THE CONTRIBUTION THAT HAVING A COMMUNITY PARTNER WITH THIS GROUP WOULD CREATE -- I APPRECIATE THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE WITH MOVING FORWAR IN THIS WAY IS THAT WE ARE SETTING A TONE FOR HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. AND I DON'T NEGATE TH PARTNERSHIP THAT IS HAPPENING HERE , AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO RECOGNIZE, WHAT DID YOU SAY? $270,000,000.00 CAPITAL INVESTMENT THAT IS NOT LOST ON ME . THE CONCERN I HAVE IS ANYONE ELSE MOVING FORWARD CAN SAY, WELL, YOU ROLLED OUT THE RED CARPET FOR ONE . TECHNICALLY, WE CAN CHECK ALL THESE BOXES TO, BECAUSE I HAD THAT CONVERSATION LAST WEEK, WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE EXCEEDED THE EXPECTATION. WELL THAT CAN HAPPEN OVER AND OVER AND OVER. I AM JUST CONCERNED ABOUT IT BEING SUCH A BROAD STROKE THE VERY FIRST TIME WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION. AND MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, I AM THINKING ABOUT HOW THERE HAS TO BE A REALLOCATION FROM OUR BUDGET T MEET THIS MITIGATION. SO, I AGREE THAT IT WOULD NOT WANT T MOVE FORWARD WITH 100% EITHER. NONE OF THE FIRST. >> AND FOUR JULY, THE LUCK OF THE DRAW, IT HAD TO BE SOMETHIN SO BRILLIANT AND SO AMAZING. [03:20:04] BUT, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. >> I SAY, ANYONE ALSO BRING TO $70 MILLION YOUR INVESTMENT, COME ON IN. >> MADAM CHAIR, THAT IS WHAT I SAID. IF WE CAN LINE THEM UP , WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT. AND ALSO, BECAUSE SHE HAS NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE THIS, SIMILAR TO A NUMBER OF OTHER PROJECTS . >> I AM HEARING THE ATTORNEYS I IS NOT THE SAME. >> WE DID THE $1,000,000.00 FOR THE ROAD GRANT. WE GAVE THE $1,000,000.00. THE COUNTY PAID FOR THEIR ROAD. >> THE BOTTOM LINE IS, WE WILL SETTLE THAT ARGUMENT AFTERWARDS THE BOTTOM LINE IS , EITHER WE ARE GOING TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT ATTRACTING BUSINESS OR NOT. WE DON'T GET THE BACKUP FROM THE STATE , COMMUNITY AND OTHER STATES. THIS ALSO GOES FROM ON POCKET TO THE COUNTY TO ANOTHER POCKET. THAT'S ALL IT IS IS AN ACCOUNT TRANSFER. THE MOBILITY FEE IS, THE REASON IT COSTS WHATEVER IT IS, THAT IS THE MONEY THAT GOES INTO THE MOBILITY FEES DISTRICT TO BE ABLE TO BE USED FOR PAYMENT TO BUILD ROADS . SO, IT NEVER LEAVES THE COUNTY. WE ARE TAKIN IT FROM ONE PART OF OUR BUDGET, RATHER THAN TAKING THE BUDGET FROM IKO TO PUT OUR OWN MONEY AND PUT IT IN. THE THOUGHT THE MOST ARTICULATE INDEX DONATION I'VE EVER GIVEN. IT COMES OUT OF ONE POCKET FROM THE COUNTY, AND GOES INTO ANOTHER POCKET. >> COMMISSIONER BURKE? >> MY COMMENT WOULD BE THAT NO IS THE TIME THAT BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT OUR COUNTY WITH EXPRESSWAY ALMOST COMPLETE. WE SAID WE NEED JOBS, WE NEED JOBS, WE NEED BUSINESSES, WE NEED PLACES FOR OUR PEOPLE TO WORK. I AM ALSO I FAVOR OF WHAT THE COMMISSIONER SAID. I AM VERY FITTED ABOUT THE COMPANY AND THE PROJECT. I KNOW EVERYONE ELSE OUT HERE IS AS WELL. THAT IS NOT MEAN THAT THEY AGREE WITH ME, BUT, ANYWAYS, THAT IS MY COMMENT ONLY. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON IT? ALL RIGHT, ALTHOUGH THE FAVOR, INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> THE POST? >> AYE. >> AYE. >> MOTION FAILS, TWO- THREE. I WILL ENTERTAIN ANOTHER MOTION. >> MADAM CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION TO MAKE THE MOBILITY FEE MITIGATION EQUAL TO 100% OF TH MOBILITY FEE. >> SECOND. >> OKAY, HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL OPPOSED? >> AYE. [26.  Bid Opening Tabulations (K. Smith)] >> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES, 3-2. >> THANK YOU FOR SAYING . >> WE HAVE BEEN OPENING TYPE RELATION FOR PROCESSING AND EXAMS AND RENEWALS. WITH THE TAX COLLECTORS, I'M SURE THAT I FOR THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE. AND THEN, OUR SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT FOR THE ENTITLEMEN PROGRAM . AS YOU RECALL, I THIN WAS JULY OF LAST YEAR, WE APPROVED THE SIDEWALKS TO BE REPAIRED ALL OVER THE COUNTY. THEY WERE SPREAD ACROSS THE COUNTY. MOSTLY IN THE ORANGE PARK AREA, I BELIEVE. AND THEN, WE HAVE OUR MINUTES. AND YOU WISHING TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? ARE APPEARING I AM [COMMISSION AUDITOR] SEEING NONE. OUR COMMISSIONER AUDITOR, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, WITH RESPECT TO ITEM NUMBER 25, WIT RESPECT TO NUMBER 25, IT IS A REQUIREMENT UNDER THE ORDINANCE THAT THEY ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT. SO, I AM SURE THAT YOUR APPROVAL IS CONTINGENT ON THEM ENTERING INTO THE AGREEMENT. THAT WAS PLACED IN YOUR BACKUP. >> WAS A PART OF YOUR MOTION? >> IT WAS NOT. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. DID WE HAV ANYTHING FROM THE COMMISSIONER [COUNTY ATTORNEY] AUDITOR? COUNTY ATTORNEY? >> THE ONLY THING IS THAT JUST THIS WEEK, WE RECEIVED AN UPDAT FROM OUR OPIOID COUNSEL IN CONNECTION WITH THE INDIA BANKRUPTCY. AS YOU KNOW, THEY FILED BANKRUPTCY. THEY WANTED T LET US KNOW THAT THEY ARE PROCEEDING THROUGH THE BANKRUPTCY WITH A SALE OF THEIR [03:25:01] ASSETS. AND THERE WILL EITHER BE A POTENTIAL BUYER, OR IT WIL BE AUCTIONED OFF , AND THEY WANTED APPROVAL TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND FILE A NOTICE OF CLAIM ON OUR BEHALF. WE WIL CERTAINLY AGREE TO THE NOTICE O CLAIM, THE RESULTS IN ANYTHING, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, VAGRANCY I PROBABLY UNLIKELY. >> COMMISSIONER COMPERE MIGHT NOT KNOW THIS OPIOID MITIGATIO HAS YIELDED VERY LITTLE MONEY OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. BUT, THEY ARE LEASING TO DO A BETTER THAN THE TOBACCO LITIGATION. >> AND WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME. >> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THAT? OKAY. DO [COUNTY MANAGER] WE NEED TO AUTHORIZE YOU TO SIG AN AGREEMENT? >> OKAY. COUNTY MANAGER? >> I JUST WANT TO COME LAMENT THE COMEDIC ASIAN'S DEPARTMENT THEY'RE NOT HERE RIGHT NOW, BUT JUST WITH THE 2022 ANNUAL REPORT. I THINK SHE DID A FANTASTIC JOB CAPTURING THE COMPETENCE OF THE COUNTY OF 2022. THIS IS KEY AND CRITICAL TO OUR NEXT STEP OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. IT WILL BE THE WAY THAT WE CAN GET GRADED HEREAFTER ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN WITHIN THE ANNUAL REPORT. JUST A REMINDER TO THE PUBLIC, OUR FIRST PUBLIC MEETING WILL BE O MAY 15TH. IT IS A MONDAY. THAT IS AT THE FLEMING ISLAND PUBLI LIBRARY. THAT WILL BE OUR FIRST OPEN DISCUSSION , WITH CAPTURIN BOOKS ON STRATEGIC PLAN. FINALLY, WE JUST WANTED TO REPORT BACK . I AM SURE PEOPLE ARE WATCHING THE NEWS WITH YOU FOR THE STATE SENATE , AND THE HOUSE HAVE COMPLETED THEIR DISCUSSIONS , AND AGREED UPON A BUDGET, WHICH IS NOW BEING MOVE FORWARD TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFIC FOR SIGNATURE. WITHIN THAT BUDGET, THE REQUEST BY THIS BOARD, THERE WERE EIGHT OF THEM THAT WERE LISTED WITHIN THE BUDGET. I WOULDN'T CELEBRATE JUST YET, BUT IT IS A VERY, VERY PROMISING SITUATION FOR US WITH THOSE REQUESTS THAT WE HAD. BY THE WAY, THIS HARDCOPY FOR THE ANNUAL REPORT IS AN ELECTRONIC ON HER WEBSITE. I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT PART. SO, THE SECOND ITEM IS WE ARE DEFINITELY ANTICIPATING , HOPEFULLY BEFORE JULY 1ST , THA IS WHERE JULY 1ST DOES COME IN THE STATE COMMISSION TO THAT WOULD HOPEFULLY BE UP. PENDING ANY QUESTIONS, THAT'S ALL I [COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS] HAVE. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CELLA? WANT TO COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, AND THE, CERTAINLY. >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER COMPERE? >> NO COMMENTS. >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER RENNINGER? >> WANTED TO SAY, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD . THE SCHOOL TAXES. THE COMMON MISPERCEPTION, I DON'T HAVE KID AT SCHOOL, I SHOULD HAVE TO PA TAXES. MY RETORT TO THAT IS, DO YOU WANT YOUR DOCTOR TO BE TRAINED WHEN YOU HAVE A HEALTH ISSUE? DO YOU WANT YOUR CAR MECHANIC TO BE A PROFESSIONAL IS FIXING YOUR CAR? WHAT ABOUT YOUR AIR CONDITIONER? THESE AR ALL SKILLS THAT THOSE TECHNICIANS GET STARTING IN KINDERGARTEN. EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T HAVE CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, YOU ARE AFFECTE BY THE EDUCATION OF THE PUBLIC I THINK IT IS A WEAK ARGUMENT BUT NONETHELESS, IT PERVADES . I HAD A REGIONAL COUNCIL MEETIN LAST WEEK WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE MEETING , WHICH I HOSTED DOWNTOWN WITH THE REGIONAL COUNCIL , WE HAD DR. ANTHONY WOODS FROM LACK OF HOUSING AUTHORITY . THEY HAD A HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR 40 YEARS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE ARE ADJUSTING WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUES THAT THIS NATIO IS SUFFERING RIGHT NOW. THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I WANT TO BRIN TO YOUR ATTENTION IS THE SENATE BILL 102 . WE SENT OUT AN EMAIL WHERE AN ATTORNEY REVIEWED THA LAW . I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR OR NOT. BUT, THE REVIEW THAT LAW, AND BROUGHT IT DOWN TO WHAT IT MEAN TO US. IT'S VERY IMPACTFUL TO THE COUNTY. >> COMMISSIONER, IF I COULD ON THAT NOTE, I DID SEND OUT AN [03:30:03] EMAIL TO THE COUNTY MANAGER WITH THE SUGGESTION THAT EITHER WE BRING IN SOMEBODY TO DO A PRESENTATION FOR US, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT LAW DOES, BECAUSE IT DOES TAKE SOME LOCAL CONTROL AWAY FROM US IN REGARDS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND I WILL GIVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND. BUT, H THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO HAVE A WORKSHOP OR SOME SORT OF PRESENTATION. >> BECAUSE YOUR CONSTITUENTS AR GOING TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS WITH THE IMPACT OF THAT LAW. >> AGAIN, WE HAVE NO CONTROL O CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THAT HOUSING SO, WE REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT. >> THE ISSUE PAPER WAS DONE BY BETH , AND TOM INGRAM. ANYWAYS, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ISSUE PAPER. WAS VERY WELL WRITTEN. THE LAST THING I HAVE IS I HAVE RECEIVED NUMEROUS PHONE CALLS AND COMPLAINTS ABOUT SURFACE WATER AT WILL FOR PRESERVE . WE HAVE HELD A MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPER IN THAT AREA DREAM FINDER , AND AS WE WERE SITTING HERE, WE JUST RECEIVED -- WE HELD A MEETING LAST, ONE WAS A, LAST TUESDAY? TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY, AND I HAV NOT RECEIVED ANY INFORMATION BACK. THEY HAD NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS, WHICH THEY KEPT ADDRESSED, AND I HAD A LIST OF 22 HOUSEHOLDS THAT STILL HAVE PROBLEMS, WHICH I ASKED THEM TO RESEARCH. AS OF THIS MORNING, OR AS OF YESTERDAY, I HADN'T RECEIVED ANY RESPONSE BACK TO THAT EMAIL. SO, I SENT ANOTHER INQUIRY , AND IT IS HAD ANOTHER MEETING NOTICE FOR NEXT MONDAY THAT WILL ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE COMPLAINTS. FOR THOSE OF YOU , WILL SEND OUT AN EMAIL TOMORRO MORNING AS TO WHAT THE NEXT ACTION IS GOING TO BE ON OUR PART ON THIS ISSUE . WITH THAT, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TONIGHT. EVERYON BE SAFE. >> SO, I JUST HAVE TWO THINGS. ONE, I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT CAR WASHES. BECAUSE, WE SEE IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT CAR WASHES AND STORAGE UNITS. IF A PROPERTY OWNER HAS A CERTAIN ZONING , AND THOSE AWNINGS CAN BE FOUND UNDER COMMERCIAL ZONING'S ON OUR WEBSITE, IF YO JUST GO AND CLICK ON THE LITTLE MAGNIFYING GLASS, AND PUT IN COMMERCIAL ZONING'S, YOU CAN READ ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN EACH ZONING. IN FACT, WE TEND TO SHY AWAY FROM EITHER PREVENTING CERTAIN BUSINESSES, OR ENCOURAGES ENCOURAGING CERTAIN BUSINESSES, BECAUSE OUR LEGAL COUNSEL TELL US THAT THAT CAN END UP GETTING SUED, AND SPENDING TAXPAYER MONEY TO FIGHT THOSE LAWSUITS. I WANTED TO BE CLEAR, BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM TO BE SOME CONFUSION OUT THERE. THE COUNT COMMISSION DOES NOT DECIDE IF A CAR WASH GOES INTO ANY CERTAIN LOCATION, NOR A STORAGE UNIT. I THEY HAVE THE ZONING AND LAND-USE THAT THEY NEED, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO COME TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. OR DOLLA GENERAL. BECAUSE WE HAVE THOSE COMING OUT OF OUR EARS. WE GOT CALL ABOUT ANOTHER ONE YESTERDAY. BUT AT ANY RATE, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. THIS SEEMS TO BE THAT MISNOMER THAT WE ARE THE ONE DECIDING THESE. THE LAST THING THAT I HA IS I'M GOING TO ASK A FAVOR OF ONE OF YOU. I HAVE, FROM US TW YEARS NOW, CLAY COUNTY TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGE MEETINGS , I AM ON VACATION NEX WEEK. DON'T RUB MY HOUSE, NOBOD WILL BE THERE. BUT, I REALLY TAKE A VACATION. I HESITATED TO SAY THAT, BUT I CANNOT BE HERE TO CHAIR THIS MEETING , IT HAS TO BE CHAIRED BY AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. SO, THEY WOULD RATHER NOT CANCEL IT . SO, IF ONE OF YOU WANTED TO CHAIR THE TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGE MEETING , IT MEETS IN THIS ROOM AT 2:00 ON MONDAY . IT USUALLY LASTS ABOUT 20 TO 30 MINUTES. THE REGIONAL COUNCIL WILL WALK YOU THROUGH ALL OF IT. REALLY, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SHOW UP, AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER, AND THEN HE WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE STEPS OF IT. BUT, A I HAVE SAID, I HAVE CHAIRED THA FOR THE BETTER PART OF TWO YEAR NOW. IT IS A VERY VITAL PART OF OUR DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITY. >> I CAN DO IT. >> THANK YOU. >> OH, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. [03:35:06] I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. MR. BACON WILL WALK YOU RIGHT THROUGH, SO IT IS NOT HARD AT ALL. AND YES, COUNTY MANAGERS, THE ENJOY USUALLY, HE IS NOT HERE RIGHT NOW, BUT HE IS USUALLY THERE TO STAFF. AND, I THE PUBLIC WANTS TO ATTEND THAT'S, YOU CAN CALL INTO IT. THAT INFORMATION HAS THAT REGIONAL COUNCIL WEBSITE. WA * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.