[Call to Order] [00:00:11] PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF MAY 2ND, 2023. THE MEETING IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER. COMMISSIONER JOE WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASE STAND. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FO WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> MY NAME IS MARY BRIDGEMAN. I'M CHAIRMAN OF THE CLAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSIONS. MINUTES FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING WILL BE TAKEN BY CHRISTINE BLANCHET. RECORDER OF THE OFFICE, WE THANK YOU. WE HAVE OTHER STAFF PRESENT INCLUDING ED LEHMAN, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND ZONING MICHAEL BROWN ZONING CHIEF. KATE COURTNEY GRAHAM, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. JAMIE, ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY. AN WE DID HAVE THE COUNTY MANAGE EARLIER. WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK SERGEANT MCDADE OF THE CLAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FO PROVIDING SECURITY THIS EVENING ANY OTHER STAFF PERSONS I NEED TO RECOGNIZE? I THINK I CAN SAFELY SAY NO. I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT ARE HERE THIS EVENING. THIS IS RALPH TO MY RIGHT. AND THIS IS MICHAEL GRAY, JOE END ZONE, AND LANCE ADDISON REPRESENTING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THE CLAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION IS A ADVISORY BOARD TO THE CLAY COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. THE DECISIONS MADE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION MOSER MOST ARE RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVE THE FINAL SAY ON THE MATTER IS CONSIDERED TO ON MAY 23RD. THE ZONING PORTION STARTS AT 4:00 P.M. PLEASE CHECK THE AGENDA FOR THESE ITEMS. IF THERE'S AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT YOU WISH TO SPEAK ABOUT TONIGHT, PLEASE FIL OUT ONE OF THE COMMON CARDS HEARD IN THE ENTRY FESTIVAL. AT THIS TIME, LET'S PUT OUR CELL PHONES ON VIBRATE WHICH I DID NOT REMEMBER TO DO. IF YOU NEE TO TAKE A CALL DURING THE [1.  Approval of Minutes] MEETING, PLEASE STEP OUTSIDE . IF YOU NEED TO LEAVE DURING THE MEETING, PLEASE DO SO QUIETLY. THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA'S APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF APRI 4TH MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. DO I HEAR A MOTION? >> MOTION TO APPROVE. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. MOTION CARRIED. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AT THIS TIME ANY MEMBER MAY COMMENT ON THESE. I DO NOT HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS FOR THIS BUT I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. [1.  Public Hearing to consider COMP0323-00002 and PUD- 0323-00003. (District 5, Comm. Burke) (M. Brown)] ANYONE THAT WANTS TO PARTICIPATE? SEEING THEN I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. AND WILL MOVE INTO THE FIRST HEARING. THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER SEO 323-00002 . AND PUD 0323 DASH 0003. THIS IS PRESENTED BY MIKE BROWN , THE ZONING CHIEF. >> THESE ARE COMPANION APPLICATIONS FOR THE SAME PARCELS . A SMALL-SCALE AMENDMENT AND ZONING MAP CHANGE THE APPLICANTS ARE CHARLES TAYLOR AND BE MFS LLC. AGENTS HERE ARE FRANK MILLER AND RICK WOOD. SMALL-SCALE LAND-USE AMENDMENT TO CHANGE TO TWO PARCEL FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL T COMMERCIAL. AND A COMPANION REZONING AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE TWO PARCELS FROM AD RESIDENTIAL TO PLAN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THE PLANNING DISTRICT IS THE GLENCOE SPRING DISTRICT AND IT'S LOCATED IN COMMISSION DISTRICT 5 . [00:05:04] COMMISSIONER BURKS DISTRICT. THESE ITEMS WILL BE HEARD AT TH MAY 23RD BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. 5:00 P.M. OR SOON THEREAFTER AS HEARD BY THE BOARD. AS I INDICATED, TO PARCELS ADJACENT PARCELS TOTALING 7.5 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS. PARCELS HAVE APPROXIMATELY 450 FEET OF FRONTAGE ON COUNTY ROAD 315. AS YOU ARE PROBABLY AWARE , COUNTY ROAD B 15 IS IN THE PROCESS OF THE UNDER THE BOND CAPITATION PROGRAM BY THE COUNTY. IT WILL ULTIMATELY BE RENAMED CATHEDRAL OAK PARK'S PARKWAY. EAST, THERE IS PROPERTY ZONED INDUSTRIAL USE PRESENTLY. AND HE SAID THAT AR THE COMMERCIAL USE ASSOCIATED WITH INTERSECTION AT 315 AND HIGHWAY 17. PARCELS ARE BORDERED ON THE WEST AND SOUTH BY THE RAIL LINE. ALSO WEST OF THE PARCELS COUNTY ROAD B 15 BETWEEN THE SUBJECT PARCELS AND THE RAIL LINE THAT WILL REMAIN A TRIANGULAR PARCELS THAT IS PRESENTLY ZONED AND REMAINS WITHIN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DWELLING . STATED INTENT, THE PROPOSED LAND-USE AMENDMENT AN ZONING CHANGE IS TO FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A COMMERCIAL FLEXSPACE WAREHOUSE PROJECT. . THESE SHOW YOU THE LAND-USE ON THE LEFT AND EXISTING ZONING O THE RIGHT. YOU CAN SEE DIRECTLY EAST OF THE SUBJECT PARCELS YOU HAVE USES AND DEVELOPMENT ALREADY AND THE MORE INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL USES ASSOCIATED WITH THE EXISTING INTERSECTION AT COUNTER 315 AND U.S. HIGHWAY 17. THE MAXIMUM INTENSITY IS PROPOSED IN THE WRITTEN REPORT OR DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECTS COMMITTED BY THE APPLICANT . MAXIMUM WILL BE 40% SAR, BASED ON THE SUBJECT ACREAGE WOULD RESULT IN ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM OF 130,000 680 SQUARE FEET WOULD BE ALLOWED LOOKING AT TRIP GENERATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THA FOR INDUSTRIAL PARK HE COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE HUNDRED AND 1 PEAK P.M. TRIPS. CENTRAL WATER AND SEWER WILL BE PROVIDED TO THE SITE BY GLENCOE SPRINGS AN THEY HAVE AVAILABLE CAPACITY. SOLID WASTE HANDLED BY THE COUNTY. IN THE COUNTY HAS AVAILABLE CAPACITY. NO SCHOOL IMPACTS ASSOCIATED. THIS IS A NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. NO IMPACT TO REGIONALLY SIGNIFICAN HABITATS AND PARCELS ARE NOT LOCATED IN THE NOISE LAND-USE IMPACT . IS A SITE PLAN AS PROPOSED . ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT I THE DRAINAGE PROVIDING FOR THE PROJECT WILL ALSO BE TAKING SOM OF THE DRAINAGE OFF OF THE WIDENING OF 315. ON BOTH SIDE OF THIS PARCEL, THIS DEVELOPMENT YOU HAVE DRAINAGE BECAUSE A LOT OF THE ADDITIONAL DRAINAGE WILL BE GENERATED OFF 315 AND IT WILL BE HANDLED PARTLY BY THIS PROJECT. IN YOU WRITTEN REPORT OR WRITTEN DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECT THERE WERE SOME PROPOSED LANDSCAPE AND BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS, STAFF IS REQUESTING SOME CHANGES TO WHA WAS PROPOSED. I WOULD LIKE TO QUICKLY GO OVER THOSE. AND ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED AS STAFF IS [00:10:03] PROPOSING TO ADD TO THOSE, TO THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS. IN SUBPARAGRAPH THREE WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT THE PROVIDED SCREENING AND CAPACITY TO OPTION ONE WHICH BE BY VEGETATION AT THE 80% OPACITY THAT HAS TO BE REACHED WITHIN TWO YEARS. OF THE PLANTING. T PROVIDE THAT THE MINIMUM WOULD BE 80% OPACITY. A GOOD SYSTEM PROPOSED FROM THE VEGETATION. AND THAT THE PERIMETER BUFFER ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL ZON PROPERTY TO THE WEST WILL BE I PLACE PRIOR TO ANY BUILDING BEING ISSUED FOR THIS PROJECT. JUST TO PROVIDE AND MAKE SURE THERE IS BUFFERING FOR THAT RESIDENTIAL PARCEL. WITH THAT, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TH LAND-USE CHANGE FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL AND A ZONING CHANGE FOR AGRICULTURE RESIDENTIAL TO PLAN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT FOR 7.5 ACRES. THERE IS ADEQUATE UTILITIES PROVIDED BY GREEN COVE SPRINGS THE PROJECT WILL HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO THE 315 WHICH WILL BE WIDENED BY THE COUNTY. STAF BELIEVES THIS IS A LOGICAL EXTENSION OF THE EXISTING INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS TO THESE. AND WITH THE BORDERING TO THE WEST AND SOUTH OF THE LINE WHICH BASICALLY PROVIDES A CONFINING LINE FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT AND JUST TO KNOW WEST OF THE RAIL LINE IS COUNTY PROPERTY WHICH WE HAVE BUILDING MAINTENANCE FACILITIES THERE. NOT ANY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IMPACTED. THE REQUESTED PLAN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS ALLOWED IN THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL LAND-USE DESIGNATION STAFF BELIEVES THE APPLICATION IS COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING AREAS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVA OF PLANS 03230002 TO AMEND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE 7.5 ACRES FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL. STAFF RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ZONING CHANGE 03230003 TO AMEND THE ZONING AMOUNT FOR THE SAME 7.5 ACRES AROUND RESIDENTIAL TO PLAN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENT AND WITH THE ADOPTION, THE AMENDMENTS TO THE WRITTEN STATEMENT TO THE LANDSCAPE STANDARDS. ANY QUESTIONS TO STAFF? >> I AGREE WITH STAFF. I THINK THIS IS A PERFECT TRANSITIONAL PROJECT FOR THIS PARCEL. I JUST HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. ONE BECAUSE I DON'T SEE OR DON'T KNOW IF I SEE THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL OWNER HERE TODAY WHERE THOSE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THAT YOU ADDED THAT WERE ADDED, WHERE THEY FROM INPUT FROM THEM OR IS THAT STAFF ? IT WAS THAT WAS STAFF SOLELY. WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER. [00:15:08] IT WAS A COUPLE OF THINGS IN HERE PRIMARILY AROUND LIGHTING AND SIGNS. I DID NOT SEE A WHOLELOT ABOUT LIGHTING. WHAT ARE THE LIGHTING STANDARDS GOIN TO BE? >> THEY WILL BE AS THEY WERE PRESENTED IN THE WRITTEN STATEMENT . WHAT THEY SAY THER BECOMES THE ZONING FOR THE TW PARCELS IF IT'S ADOPTED. >> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD ABOUT THIS WAS THE BUILDING HEIGHT. 40 FEET IS HIGHER THAN WE USUALLY. AREN'T WE USUALLY AT 35 FEET ON BUILDING HEIGHT ? DISTRICT. PRIMARILY 35 IS USUALLY WHAT WE HAVE AND A LOT OF THE STANDARD DISTRICTS. WE DO ALLOW A LITTLE HEIGHT IN SOM OF THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS. AGAIN BEING A PCD , BASICALLY DEFINES WHAT THE ZONING WILL BE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. >> THAT I HAVE FOR NOW. IT WAS AT THIS TIME, ANYONE WHO WE AR GOING TO HAVE THE PRESENTATION APPLICANT AND WE WILL NEED THOSE FOLKS AND ANYONE ELSE THA WILL SPEAK ON HIS APPLICATIONS IF YOU WOULD BE RISE AND BE SWORN IN, THE APPLICANT CAN MAKE THE PRESENTATION. >> IS HE GOING TO SPEAK OR WILL IT JUST BE YOU MR. MILLER? ON THE OFF CHANCE THAT HE MIGHT CA WE SWEAR YOU BOTH AND PAGES RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR FROM THE TESTIMONY ABOUT TO GIVE UP THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT TH TRUTH SO HELP YOU GOD. >> I DO. >> I DO. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS FRANK MILLER. ADDRESS IS ONE INDEPENDENT DRIVE . 2300 IN JACKSONVILLE. IF HE COULD GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WITH THE LAND-USE, THERE YOU GO. JUST T ORIENT YOU. ON THE SLIDE TO TH LEFT, WHICH IS THE ZONING LAND-USE SLIDE, THERE'S ABOUT 40 ACRES TO THE EAST OF THIS PARCEL THAT'S ACCOMMODATION OF COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL SLACK IT DOES NOT SHOW THERE'S ALSO STUFF ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 17 AND RUNNING NORTH TOWARDS GARTER. WHAT THIS ALSO DOESN'T SHOW IS ON THE SOUTH OF THIS PARCEL, THAT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS IS THE COUNTY'S MAINTENANCE FACILITY. AND I THINK IT'S 15 ANCHORS . IT'S A PRETTY HUGE THING. LITTLE TRIANGLE THAT'S LEFT IS THE COMMERCIAL OR EXCUSE ME, RESIDENTIAL PARCEL. RICK HAS BEEN IN TOUCH WITH TH OWNER. THE OWNER BELIEVED IS TH BROTHER OF ONE OF THE SELLERS OF THESE TWO PARCELS AND HE'S VERY CORDIAL AND HAD NO PROBLEM WITH EVERYTHING. HE HAS ACTUALLY TRIED TO ACQUIRE HIS PROPERTY. OR ACQUIRED THE REMAINDER INTEREST. HE'S 80 SOMETHING YEARS OLD AND JUST DIDN'T WANT TO BE MESSED WITH. HE DIDN'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED. BUT HE DOESN'T CARE. HE HAS NO INTEREST IN WHAT'S GOING ON THE PROPERTY. I THINK THAT HELPS YOU UNDERSTAND IN TERMS OF THE LAND-USE CHANGE, IT'S REALLY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS AROUND IT . I THINK AS BROWN INDICATED IS AN EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING NODE THERE. I WOULD BE HAPPY T ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT , ABOUT THE LAND-USE CHANGE. THE CONCEPT UNDER THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS TO PROVIDE FOR A NUMBER OF USES UNDER A FLEXIBLE WAREHOUSE TYPE PROJECT. IT'S NOT KNOWN NOW WHAT THE PROJECT MAY BE. THEY [00:20:06] MAY HAVE SOME RETAIL ELEMENTS. IT MIGHT HAVE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ELEMENTS. IT IS SET UP SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE THE KIND OF THING WE HAVE OFFICE UPFRONT AND WAREHOUSE SPACE IN THE BACK OR POSSIBLY EVEN AN OFFICE OR REALTOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD AND ATTENDED TO BE A JOB GENERATOR. CLAY COUNTY SEEMS TO BE LIGHT IN THE AVAILABLE SPACE FOR THAT TYPE OF PROJECT. REGARDING TH SIGNAGE IS SET FORTH AS WRITTE AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER. THE LIGHTING WILL BE SET SUCH THAT IT DOESN'T IMPAC THE NEIGHBORS TO THE LAST . THE RESIDENTIAL PARCEL. ALSO TO SOME EXTENT , THE INDUSTRIAL SELECT ON THE OTHER SIDE. I MA HAVE OVERLOOKED THE QUESTION SOMEBODY MAY HAVE HAD BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER IT. >> I JUST WANTED TO HIT THOSE COUPLE OF ITEMS AGAIN. COULD B 40 FEET ABOVE THE GROUND LEVEL THE COUNTY IS MOVING TO TRY TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF WHAT I CALL OBSCENE SIGNAGE. I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT WOULD BE ADEQUATE. . THAT'S ONE ISSUE THAT I DEFINITELY HAVE HERE. THE OTHER ONE IS THE LIGHTING. WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO CONTROL THE LIGHTING. AS MR. BROWN SAID WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION, THE WRITTEN STATEMENT SAYS THE APPLICANT SHALL SUBMIT A LIGHTING PLAN TO THE DEVELOPMENT. IT DOESN'T TELL U ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT THE LIGHTIN PLAN IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. IS IT GOING TO BE ALL DOWN LIGHTING. >> IT DOES SAY IT WAS SHIELDED. >> I HAVE SOME CONCERN WITH THAT. THAT KIND OF FLOWS BACK UP TO THE SIGNAGE AS WELL. BECAUSE IN ADDITION TO THE FRON IS GOING TO PUT OUT FRONT WHICH IS A PRETTY TALL SIGN, EVERY TENANT CAN HAVE A SIGN ON THE BUILDING AS WELL . IT'S A LOT O SIGNAGE AND A LOT OF LIGHT. I GUESS IS REALLY TWO THINGS THA IN GENERAL I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE SIGN OUT FRONT IS A BILLBOARD SITTING OUT THERE . IF THIS IS GOING TO BE FLEX SPACE I DON'T KNOW WHY A MONUMENT SIGN WOULDN'T BE ADEQUATE. I TRYING TO ADVERTISE A RELAY TO COMING HERE. AND THE THE OTHER ONE IS THE LIGHTING. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME MORE SPECIFIC LIGHTING LIKE THE LAK STANDARDS FOR YOU SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC AND THEN WE WILL SUBMIT A PLAN IN THE FUTURE. THOSE ARE KIND OF MY COMMENTS ABOUT THAT. MADAM CHAIR, DID WANT TO ASK ONEOF THE QUESTION IF THAT'S OKAY. THE OTHER ONE AS I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THIS ARTIE MENTIONED TO HAD A LITTL BIT OF A PROBLEM WITH THE BUILDING HEIGHT BUT I GUESS AS TIME GOES BY WE WILL GET HIGHER YOU TELL ME. 40 FEET, THAT'S A FOUR-STORY BUILDING . IT WAS A DEPENDS ON THE ROOF AND THE SPACE IT IT'S THREE-STORY BACO [00:25:03] MAY BE SQUEEZED FOUR-STORY AND. >> IS KIND OF WHAT I THOUGHT. THAT'S LESS OF AN ISSUE. THE OTHER ONE ARE THE USES. THE ALLOWABLE USES. AS I HAVE READ THROUGH THESE AND LOOKED AT THEM, I COULD THINK IS THAT WE HAVE SCRAPED EVER USE WE COULD FIND OUT OF ALL OF THE BP CATEGORIES. WE ARE BACK TO FLEXSPACE WAREHOUSE . THERE'S ONE IN HERE THAT SAYS VETERINAR OFFICES AND THEN YOU TURN AROUN AND UNDER CONDITIONAL USES YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL KENNELS. I GOING TO HAVE ANIMALS OR NOT? PUT A SCHOOL IN HERE FOR PERFORMING ARTS OR MOVIE THEATER. OR RESTAURANTS IN THERE. I COULD SEE MAYBE A SMALL RESTAURANT OR FOOD PLACES AND THEN THERE'S A LOT OF LIGH INDUSTRIAL STUFF. FOOD PROCESSING, PRODUCTION, AND PACKAGING, HEATING, AIR CONDITIONING, MANUFACTURING. LARGE-SCALE PRINTING PLANT. NEWSPAPER PRINTING OPERATIONS. IT REALLY COVERS A LOT OF AREAS HERE AND THEN AT THE VERY END AND THE OTHER SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR FACILITIES AND USES, A KIND OF LOOKS LIKE WE WANT TO DO OPEN ZONING. ANYTHING WE CAN THINK OF THEM I WANT TO GO IN HERE WE WILL PUT IN HERE IN THE FUTURE. I'M JUST WONDERING WAS THAT THE PURPOSE OF SUCH A LARG LIST OF ALLOWABLE USES ? >> ANYWAY, YES. THE USES WE HAVE LISTED ARE COMPATIBLE WIT THE USES WITHIN 40 ACRES RIGHT THERE AT 17 AND 315. AND ARE NOT INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE INDUSTRIAL SELECT STORE. AT TH MOMENT , THERE IS NO TENANT BUYER OR ANY PORTION OF THIS. THERE'S NO WAY OF KNOWING WHAT THE SITE WILL DROP. RATHER THAN TRY TO LIMIT THE USES AND THEN HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU IS SOMEONE POPS UP AND SAID CAN WE DO THIS HERE. INTERESTINGLY ON A PROJECT THAT'S UP BY HEINZ ELEMENTARY, I MUST HAVE HAD TO ANSWER 10 INQUIRIES ABOUT WHAT USE COULD BE MADE OF THE PROPERTY BECAUSE SOMEONE HAS COME TO TRY TO PUT SOMETHING THERE AND EVERYONE DOESN'T COMPLY. THAT'S BEEN THE ANSWER AND IT'S GONE DOWN THE ROAD. WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IN THI KIND OF SITUATION, HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU IF IT'S ONE OF THES THAT YOU MAY HAVE OBJECTION TO RIGHT NOW. I THINK THE DEVELOPER RICK WOOD HAS A GOOD REPUTATION IN TERMS OF PUTTING THINGS TOGETHER AND HE'S NOT GOING TO PUT TRASH IN HERE BECAUSE IF HE PUTS TRASH IN IT, IT AFFECTS WHAT HE HAS LEFT. SOME OF THOSE THINGS INDIVIDUALLY MAPI COMPATIBLE WITH EACH OTHER . BUT ON THE GRAND SCALE, THEY ARE ALL COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDIN AREA. >> JUST ONE FOLLOW-UP ON AKAMAI DON'T WANT TO REDO THIS WHOLE THING AGAIN. I SAW SOMETHING ABOUT OUTSIDE STORAGE. >> YES. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> I JUST HAVE ONE. THIS IS REALLY NOT A FACTOR OF OUR DECISION, I'M JUST CURIOUS, WIL THESE BE BUILT TO SELL OR WILL THESE BE BUILT AS LONG-TERM LEASES? >> THE INTENTION IS TO BE BUIL AS LONG-TERM LEASES. AND THE REASON FOR THE HEIGHT OF THE IDEA OF WAREHOUSING. GIVING IT MORE HEIGHT TO STORE STUFF. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION BUT I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY . SEEING NONE I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM. I WANT T RECOGNIZE DEPUTY JONES FROM THE [00:30:03] SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO PROVIDE SECURITY TONIGHT. WE APPRECIATE THAT AT THIS TIME, IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE . ANY OPPOSED. SEEMS FINE. MOTION CARRIES. SHALL WE PROCEED TO THE ZONING PORTION? >> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ZONING AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. >> SECOND. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. >> I HAVE DISCUSSION. I'M GOIN TO VOTE AGAINST THE PCD , PRIMARILY BASED ON THE OBJECTIONS THAT I STATED. I THINK THE SIGNAGE IS REALLY OBSCENE AND I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT WE DON'T HAVE A BETTER DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE LIGHTIN PLAN WILL LOOK LIKE. IT'S NOT THE PROJECT ITSELF THAT SEEMS INAPPROPRIATE. IT'S SOME OF TH ANCILLARY THINGS. LIKE THE SIGNAGE AND ALL THAT. UNFORTUNATELY I CANNOT SEPARATE THOSE TWO THINGS. AND MADAM CHAIR I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT YOU MAY WANT TO DO THE MOTION BECAUSE WE DID NOT INCLUDE THE CHANGE IN THE LANGUAGE IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> WE CAN PROBABLY HANDLE THAT >> IF WE MOVE STAFF REPORT I THINK THAT REMOVES RECOMMENDATION. I THINK WE COVERED THAT. >> I WAS UNDER THAT IMPRESSION. ALL RIGHT WE'VE HAD THE MOTIO AND DISCUSSION SO I THINK WE AR READY FOR A VOTE ON THE ZONING PORTION. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. ALL THOS OPPOSED . LANCE, DID YOU VOTE SO IT'S 3-2. I BELIEVE THAT THE MOTION CARRIES. >> I WILL AGREE WITH RALPH ON THE SIGNAGE. IT'S A LITTLE EXCESSIVE. . >> I HOPE THE APPLICANT WILL TAKE ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. I DID ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE ASSISTAN COUNTY MANAGER CHARISSE STEWAR HAS JOINED US. GLAD TO SEE YOU [2.  Public Hearing to consider ZON-0223-00008. (District 5, Comm. Burke) (M. Brown)] THIS EVENING. AT THIS POINT WE MOVE ON TO ITEM 2 ON THE AGENDA THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER VLAN 0223-00008 . THIS ALSO PRESENTED BY BROWN, THE ZONING CHIEF. >> THE APPLICANT FOR THIS REQUEST ZONING CHANGE IS AGENT TORI CARTER. THIS IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING I'M .64 ACRES FROM THE COMMUNITY BUSINESS TO BP THREE SPECIALTY BUSINESS. THE PARCELS LOCATED AT 1747 FOR DAD STREET. PLANNING DISTRICT IS GREEN COV SPRINGS. THIS IS COMMISSIONER BURKS, DISTRICT 5. I MADE A MISTAKE I'M NOT SLIDE. I APOLOGIZE. THIS WILL BE HEARD BY THE BOARD ON MAY 23RD. TIME CERTAIN SET FOR 5 P.M. OR THEREAFTER. THE PARCEL IS DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP LOCATED WITHIN WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE GREEN COVE NORTH COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AREA. RIGHT OFF OF HIGHWAY 17. THE PROPERTIES IMMEDIATELY NORTHEAST AND SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ARE ZONED EB TO ARE ALSO INCLUDED WITHIN THE GREEN COVE SPRINGS NORTH COMMERCIAL AREA. WEST ACROSS U.S. 17 ARE COMMERCIALL ZONED PROPERTIES . THIS PROJECT WILL ALSO BE PROVIDING UTILITIE BY GREEN COVE SPRINGS, THE CITY THEY DO HAVE ADEQUATE CAPACITY AND THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO FACILITATE THE [00:35:02] DEVELOPMENT OF A QUICK SERVICE STATION. IN WHICH THE PRESENT EXISTING ZONING WILL NOT ALLOW HERE IS ZONING ON THE LEFT SHOWING ADJACENT ZONING . AND THE AREA TO THE RIGHT , THIS DEVELOPMENT AREA IS NEW AND HA BEEN APPROVED. THERE WILL BE A NEW ROAD PUT IN. THE FOR DAD STREET, THIS WILL PROVIDE ACCESS FROM ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AREA INCLUDING THE SUBJECT PROJECT RATHER THAN HAVING THEM ACCESS ONTO 17 THE WILL ALL GO OUT ONE ENTRANCE WHICH A BEAD TIED WITH DISSECTIONS AT 315 AND U.S. HIGHWAY 17. AS I INDICATED IT'S A ZONING CHANGE FROM BB T TO BE THREE. STAFF HAS REVIEWE THE APPLICATION AND DETERMINED THAT THE REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE REQUESTED BP THREE ZONING IS ALLOWED IN THE COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL . APPLICATION 0.223 -00008 . ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS POINT. >> ANY QUESTIONS ? IT WAS JUST CLARIFICATION PLEASE. FOR DAD STREET OR ROAD GO IN THERE. I DID SEE THAT. I THINK ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS AND I SEE I THERE. HE WAS BUILDING THAT ROA AND WHEN? >> THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION BUT IT'S THE COUNTY STAFF THE DEVELOPER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR BUILDING THAT. TO ACCESS ANY OF THESE PROJECTS THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT ROAD ARE SAYING THIS BASICALLY , THI BUSINESS WILL HAVE NO ACCESS UNTIL THAT ROAD GETS BUILT BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT BE ALLOWE TO GO STRAIGHT OUT ONTO U.S. 17. IT WAS EXACTLY. I THINK THAT WAS THE MAIN POINT. IT WA ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? AT THE TIM OF HEAR FROM APPLICANT. IF YOU WOULD ARISE AND BE SWORN IN. D YOU SWEAR THAT YOUR TESTIMONY I THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. >> I DO. I DID BRING A PRESENTATION HERE. I THINK MIKE COVERED MOST OF THE KEY POINTS ON THAT. I'M JUST GOING TO TUR IT BACK TO YOU GUYS. >> I ASKED MIKE BUT I WILL ASK YOU, TOO. YOU ARE FULLY AWARE THEY REALLY WON'T HAVE ANY BUSINESS ACCESS UNTIL THIS ROAD GETS BUILT. IT WAS ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE A DEAL TENNIS PROJECT MULTIPLE TIMES. THIS IS PART OF THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET ANY ACCESS IN THE U.S. 17. ADDITIONALLY THERE IS A MASTER STORMWATER FACILITY AND ALL THAT STUFF WILL HAVE TO BE CONSTRUCTED , ACCEPTED, CLEARED BY ALL OF THE AGENCIES BEFORE WE CAN HAVE ANY ACCESS, UTILITY SERVICE, SO ON AND SO FORTH. >> I JUST WANTED TO ASK . >> STORAGE FACILITY PART OF TH MASTER DEVELOPMENT. >> DO THEY GET ACCESS FROM 17? THEY ARE WAITING ON THIS ROAD. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THI EVENING. IT'S A BIT OF A DRIVE FROM WESTLAKE CHAPEL. I'M JUST CURIOUS, ARE YOU THE CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THAT WHOLE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT OR JUST FOR THIS PARCEL? >> I'M CORPORAL ENGINEER, TAKIN 50 CHANGE IN CARWASH LINES. THAT'S THE MASTER TRACK FOR THE PARCEL WE ARE CALLING IT. I BELIEVE THE ROADS UTILITY AND STORMWATER ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THIS TIME. AS PART OF THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT THEY SUBBED OUT A FEW PARCELS . [00:40:03] I WILL BE THE ENGINEER FOR THIS PROJECT. HAVE TO VERIFY EVERYTHING IS CLEARED BY ALL OF THE AGENCIES. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> HAVE ANOTHER CURIOSITY QUESTION. I HAVE WONDERED NUMEROUS TIMES, WHAT IS THE BUSINESS BETWEEN THE WAREHOUSE, THE STORAGE FACILITY GOING UP ? IS ANOTHER BUSINESS BETWEEN THA AND 17 AND THERE IS AN AWNING . DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS AND WHAT THE FUTURE OF THAT IS? >> I DO NOT KNOW. I KNOW THE SELF STORAGE HAS THE PARCEL AND NEXT TO US IS BEING PLANNED FOR A DAIRY QUEEN. >> I THINK AT THIS TIME IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION, THANK YOU. I THINK WE PROCEED TO PUBLIC HEARING. I HAVE NO COMMENT CARDS. I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS APPLICATION JUST TO BE SURE. W CAN HAVE FOR THE DISCUSSION OR MOTION ON THIS APPLICATION. MOTION CARRIES ANY OLD BUSINES OR NEW BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION TONIGHT? WE CAN HANDLE ALL OF THIS AT ONCE. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET THIS RIGHT. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IN JUNE. WE ARE GOOD TO GO ON THAT. THE OTHER THING IS HOWEVER WE DO HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP THAT DAY AT 2:30. THAT'S TO GO OVER SOME OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES . IF YOU GUYS CAN PLAN TO COME TO THAT WILL MAKE SURE KELLY SENDS THAT OUT. >> YES. THAT'S MY COMMENTS. >> 2:30 TO 4:00 ? >> APPARENTLY RALPH HAS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS. >> CAN YOU GIVE US ANY UPDATE THAT'S ALREADY IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN . I KEEP SEEING NEWS ABOUT IT THAT THERE . THE DEVELOPERS ARE LOOKING AT IT? . I'M NOT ASKING ANYTHING PRIVAT AT THIS POINT . THE COVERAGE YO SEE OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN IS A LITTLE SPOTTY . >> FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD I THOUGHT THEY WERE RECENTLY OUT THERE DOING TESTING. THAT'S ONGOING. THINK A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN SOLD. A VERY SMALL PORTION , THE 80 ACRES OF TO THE NORTHWESTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY . UNLESS STAFF HAS ANY MORE COMMENTS, WE ARE BEING TOLD WE THINK FOLKS ARE LOOKING AT BUYING A PIECE OF PROPERTY BUT THERE'S BEEN A LO OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BP DOIN THEIR OWN TESTING BEFORE ANYTHING MOVES FORWARD. >> YOUR MEMBER THE LAST TIME THIS CAME THROUGH. EITHER THE WHOLE SITE OR IS CLEAN OR NONE OF IT IS CLEAN. IT'S ALL OR NOTHING. IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM WHAT LITTLE BIT I'M SEEING IN [00:45:03] THE PAPER THERE TRYING THE SAME THING AGAIN, LET'S PULL OFF A LITTLE PIECE HERE AND THERE. >> AS PART OF THE SALE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DOLLARS HAVE TO BE SATISFIED TO BE CLEANED UP. I KNOW THAT IS STILL PART O IT. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND I BELIEVE BP IS HEAVENLY INVOLVED. >> THAT WAS A LONG DRAWN OUT THING , SET OF MEETINGS. >> KIND OF THE ESSENCE OF IT. THE MONEY THEY WANT SET ASIDE IS NOWHERE NEAR WHAT'S NEEDED T CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY. THE DEVELOPER DOES NOT WANT TO SPEN THE EXTRA MONEY. >> THEY WERE THROWING OUT A VER UNREASONABLE NUMBER. IT WAS A LITTLE LOW FOR THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF CLEANUP THAT NEEDED T BE DONE. IN THE TAPE AND EVERYTHING ELSE HE WAS THE A LO OF INFORMATION. >> ANY OTHER OLD OR NEW BUSINES TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION? SEE NONE I WILL OPEN THE LAST PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS OR SEE ANYONE. SO I CLOSE THE * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.