Apr 25, 2023 BCC Agenda

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>> - - UNABLE TO FULLY CELEBRATE LIFE DUE TO DISTURBANCE, DISEASE OR DISABILITY.

LASTLY, BE WITH HER TONIGHT AS WE ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS WHICH REFLECT AN INCREASE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL RESIDENTS WHO LIVE VISIT THIS GREAT COUNTY.

FOR ALL OF THIS, WE PRAY IN YOUR HOLY NAME, AMEN.

>> CHAIR: OUR PLEDGE THIS AFTERNOON IS BROUGHT BY CHIEF WARRANT OFFICER GAYWARD HENDRY. CHIEF WARRANT OFFICER GAYWARD HENDRY IS RETIRED FROM THE U.S. SPECIAL AGENT WITH THE NAVAL CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIVE SERVICE. HE RETIRED FOR 20 YEARS OF SERVICE IN THE JACKSONVILLE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS 17 YEARS IN THE INTELLIGENCE UNIT. HE SERVED AS A UNIT INVESTIGATOR SPECIAL PROSECUTION DIVISION AND AS CHIEF INSPECTOR FOR THE CLAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE ULTIMATELY RETIRING AFTER MORE THAN 44 YEARS OF SERVICE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. SHE HENRY MADE ACTIVE IN HIS COMMUNITY AND HAS SERVED IN NUMEROUS ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING CLAY COUNTY FARM BUREAU, HISTORICAL SOCIETY, LAKE ASBURY COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, THE MILITARY MUSEUM OF NORTH FLORIDA, 4H FOUNDATION AND SCOTTISH MILITARY SOCIETY. HE IS A 16 YEAR VETERAN OF THE USED - - SERVED AS A DIRECTOR. ALSO, HE ESTABLISHED THE FLORIDA FBI - - CAMP LENDING IN 2019.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTY, OUR NATION AND OUR STATE. PLEASE, WILL YOU LEAD US IN THE

PLEDGE? >> IF I COULD INDULGE A MOMENT, CAN WE TAKE OUR SEATS PLEASE? I HAD ONE THING I WANTED TO GIVE PRIOR TO THE PLEDGE. WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS ALL HER LIFE, BUT I DOUBT VERY FEW OF US KNOW THE HISTORY BEHIND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WHICH I'M GOING TO SHARE WITH THERIGHT NOW . DO YOU KNOW WHEN IT WAS

WRITTEN? >> PROBABLY THE YEAR YOU GRADUATED EIGHTH GRADE. [LAUGHTER].

>> 1892, A BAPTIST MINISTER WROTE WHAT IS NOW BECOME THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. HE DID IT BECAUSE HE WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE DIVISION OF PATRIOTIC LETHARGY IN OUR COUNTRY BROUGHT ON BY THE CIVIL WAR.

IT WAS HIS WAY OF TRYING TO UNITE THE PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY. HIS CLIENT WAS SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO MY FLIGHT AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. PRESIDENT BENJAMIN HARRISON WAS SO MOVED THAT HE ORDERED IT BE INFUSED IN THE CURRICULUM OF THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM OF THE UNITED STATES.

- - I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, I PLACE MY HEAD, MY HEART, TO MY GOD, TO MY COUNTRY, ONE LANGUAGE AND ONE FLAG - - ADDED TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE TEXT ADDED A LITTLE SOMETHING TO IT. THAT STAYED THE SAME UNTIL 1942 WHEN CONGRESS APPROVED IT AS THE OFFICIAL PLEDGE OF

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YOU KIND OF KNOW WHAT THAT IS, DON'T YOU? SOMEBODY IN CONGRESS SAID IT LOOKS TOO MUCH LIKE THE NAZI SALUTE, SO THAT WENT TO THE PLEDGE OVER THE HEART IS WHAT WE ARE ALL ACCUSTOMED TO. IN 1953, PRESIDENT EISENHOWER ADDED THE WORDS "UNDER GOD" WHICH CONGRESS UNANIMOUSLY DID WHICH LEFT US WITH WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL, ONLY SCORE HIGH SCHOOL, WE GOT UP EVERY MORNING AND SOMEBODY SAID A PRAYER AND YOU GET THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG.I THINK THAT HAPPENS ANYMORE IN MOST PLACES.

THAT WAS A GOOD WAY TO BE BROUGHT UP IN A SOLDIERLY REMEMBER THAT AND I CERTAINLY WILL NOT FORGET THE WORDS TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE OR OUR GREAT FLAG.

LET US STAND, HAND OVER HEART AND RENDER THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

BE SEATED. [APPLAUSE].

>> I AM KIND OF DISAPPOINTED THERE WAS NOT A SONG THERE,

COMMISSIONER. >> ALRIGHT.

[CALL TO ORDER]

I WILL NOW CALL TO ORDER THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS

[PET ADOPTIONS]

ADOPTIONS. >> OUR FIRST DOG TODAY IS CORY.

I NEUTERED MALE, HOUND MIX, EIGHT YEARS OLD AND WEIGHS 89 POUNDS. IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A GENTLE GIANT, CORY IS A SWEET, SOCIAL, DOG FRIENDLY, HOUSETRAINED ANDTHE COMMANDS. ONE OF THE BEST THINGS ABOUT ADOPTING SENIOR DOG IS THAT THEY KNOWTHEY ARE , SO THERE ARE NO SURPRISES FOR YOU. FAIR WARNING, CORY IS A TALKER IN HIS CANDLE KENNEL AND HAS PLENTY TO SAY, BUT HE IS A STAFF FAVORITE TAKE INTO AN EVENT BECAUSE HE IS A PERFECT GENTLEMAN. NEXT WE HAVE TURBO, NEUTERED MALE, MIXED BREED, FIVE YEARS OLD.

TURBO IS SWEET, SEEMS TO LOVE EVERYONE HE MEETS AND IS A HAPPY BOY RAIN OR SHINE. TURBO WILL LOVE TO MEET YOU IN YOUR CURRENT POP TO SEE IF THERE IS A MATCH MADE IN HEAVEN. HE IS UP TO DATE ON HIS VACCINES, MICROCHIP AND HEARTWORM NEGATIVE.OUR FIRST CAT IS IRIS, A SPAYED FEMALE, DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR, EIGHT YEARS OLD. IRIS IS A LOVELY LADY THAT WANTS A CALM, QUIET HOME TO REST HER HEAD.

SHE LOVES MAKING BISCUITS AND LYING AROUND THAT LOVES TO SNUGGLE TIME WITH HER HUMAN. IRIS IS UP TO DATE ON HER VACCINES AND IS MICROCHIP. LASTLY, WE HAVE RAZOR, NEUTERED MALE. DOMESTIC LONG HERE, EIGHT YEARS OLD, RAZOR IS THE SWEETEST BOY AND IS READY TO MEET YOUR ACQUAINTANCE. HE STRUTS AROUND LIKE A DISTINGUISHED AND THAT HE IS AND IS READY TO CHECK OUT HIS NEW HOME. HE IS UP-TO-DATE ON HIS VACCINE AND MICROCHIPS. KINSEY HAS OFFICIALLY STARTED, SO IF YOU WANT TO JOIN OUR KITCHEN CREW, WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR FOSTERS. IF INTERESTED, CONTACT US AT CLAY FOSTERS AT CLAY COUNTY GOLF.COM.

LASTLY, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN HELPING OUR FURRY FRIENDS BUT CANNOT BRING ONE HOME, TAKE A LOOK AT OUR AMAZON WISH LIST.

JUST GO TO AMAZON.COM. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PET

ADOPTIONS. >> THANK YOU, IF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WERE JIMMY DOWN FRONT, WE HAVE A SPECIAL STAFF

RECOGNITION. >> WE HAVE A RETIREMENT THIS

[Mark Neeld - Public Works]

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MARK WAS HIRED ON JANUARY 4, 1995 IN THE FLEET FUEL DIVISION AND IS LEAVING US IN THE POSITION OF FLEET MANAGER FROM A PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. WE APPRECIATE YOUR MANY YEARS OF HARD WORK AND DEDICATION AND WISH YOU THE VERY BEST IN YOUR RETIREMENT. I WILL TURN THE MICROPHONE TO

THE COUNTY MANAGER. >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

WHO WANTS TO SAY SOME FINE THINGS ABOUT THIS MAN?

>> CONGRATULATIONS ON 20 YEARS. >> TERESA?

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT FLEET HERE AND YOU ARE A KEY PIECE OF THAT SUCCESS.

I'M ALSO VERY JEALOUS OF YOU. BEST WISHES IN YOUR RETIREMENT,

PLEASE COME BACK AND SEE US. >> I CAN TELL YOU, WHEN I CAME ON BOARD AND PROMOTED MARK, HE HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB.

YOU ALWAYS TAKE A LOOK AT SAVINGS WHERE WE CAN SAVE SOME DOLLARS, WE SPENT A LOT OF HOURS LOOKING TO CONTRACT FLEET AND WE CAME DOWN TO THE BOTTOM LINE, IT WAS BETTER TO OWNTHEM AND MANAGE THEM . HE IS THE PERSON TO MANAGE THEM FLAWLESSLY. AS YOU KNOW, WE REPLACE VEHICLES PERIODICALLY ON A REGULAR BASIS AND IT IS THROUGH HIS LEADERSHIP THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE THESE VEHICLES AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE UP TO PAR SAFELY AND PROVIDING GREAT PRODUCT SO WE CAN PROVIDE SERVICES TO YOU ARE THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T THINK YOU ALL, I HAVE A CERTIFICATE FOR YOU. HE WILL GIVE IT A SECOND TIME, BUT I WANT TO GIVE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY A FEW WODS.

>> THIS BEEN AN HONOR TO SERVE CLAY COUNTY FOR 23 YEARS, IT IS A SECOND FAMILY FOR ME. I KNOW IT WILL CONTINUE AND I'M SURE THEY WILL DO A FANTASTIC JOB.

I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR ALLOWING ME TO SERVE YOU ALL FOR 28 YEARS. THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]. >> NEXT, WE WILL MOVE INTO A

[1.  Clay County Police Officer's Memorial Day/National Law Enforcement Appreciation Week (May 14-20, 2023)]

IF YOU COULD JIMMY UPFRONT, WE HAVE SHERIFF MICHELLE COOK, CHIEF GARY FROM THE ORANGE PARK POLICE DEPARTMENT, CHIEF KENNY LADNER THE CLAY COUNTY SCHOOL DEPARTMENT, CHIEF GOODMAN FROM THE GREEN COVE SPRINGS APARTMENT AND IN THEIR IS ANYONE THE FOUROF YOU WILL LIKE TO HAVE, PURSUE THE PROCLAMATION WITH YOU ? I AM GOING TO TURN THE

MICROPHONE OVER. >> THE PROCLAMATION READ AS FOLLOWS. WHEREAS, THE CLAY COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO JOIN THE CITY OF GREEN COVE SPRINGS, THE TOWN OF ORANGE PARK, AND THE REST OF CLAY COUNTY IN RECOGNIZING THE 2023 POLICE MEMORIAL DAY CEREMONY TO BE HELD ON TUESDAY, MAY 2, 2023, AT MOOSEHAVEN IN HONOR OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO LOST THEIR LIVES IN THE LINE OF DUTY SERVING THE CITIZENS OF CLAY COUNTY; AND WHEREAS, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT ALL OF OUR CITIZENS KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THE RESPONSIBILITIES, HAZARDS, AND SACRIFICES MADE DAILY BY OUR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT PROFESSIONALS, AND THAT WE HONOR THOSE WHO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITIES, ENFORCE OUR LAWS, AND KEEP THE PEACE; AND WHEREAS, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS REPRESENT AN OUTWARD

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NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 2, 2023, AS POLICE MEMORIAL DAY IN CLAY COUNTY AND MAY 14TH THROUGH MAY 20TH AS LAW ENFORCEMENT APPRECIATION WEEK IN CLAY COUNTY AND ENCOURAGES ALL CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE THE SACRIFICES OF OUR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT PROFESSIONALS AND THEIR FAMILIES AS THEY FULFILL THEIR SOLEMN OATH TO PROTECT AND SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.

TOTALLY ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS CLAY COUNTY FLORIDA, THE 25TH DAY OF APRIL 2023, TO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION AND THESECOND THEM ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY I . THE PROCLAMATION IS OFFICIAL, POLICE MEMORIAL DAY IS MAY 2. SHERIFF, DID YOU WANT TO SAY A

FEW WORDS? >> JUST THANKFUL THAT WE LIVE IN A MOST LAW ENFORCEMENT SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND ACROSS THE NATION.

THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND THANKS TO OUR CITIZENS FOR CONTINUING TO SUPPORT THE MINIMUM TO PUT THEIR LIVES IN THE LINE EVERY DAY.

>> THANK YOU AND THANK YOU TO THE CITIZENS.

I'VE BEEN IN THIS COUNTY FOR - - AND DON'T PLAN ON GOING

ANYWHERE SOON. >> ON BEHALF OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SUPPORTING THE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY. I HAVE BEEN IN CLAY COUNTY FOR 25 YEARS AND PROBABLY SERVE EACH AND EVERY DAY.

>> ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, THANK YOU AND WE APPRECIATE THIS

COMMUNITY. >> JUST A REMINDER, WE WILL BE CELEBRATING ON MAY 2 AND IN MOOSE HAVEN THIS YEAR.

IT WILL BE 9:00 A.M. ON MAY 2. [APPLAUSE].

>> NOW, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO OUR PRESENTATION TIME.

BUT, WE ARE GOING TO DO THE FIRST ONE WITH THE GROUP PHOTO,

[Clay County Fair 2023]

OUR FIRST PRESENTATION, WE WENT TO RECOGNIZE THE CLAY COUNTY FAIR STAFF. THE CLAY COUNTY AGRICULTURAL FAIR HELD AT THE CLAY COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS HAD RECORD CROWDS THIS YEAR. WE HAVE SEVERAL REPRESENTATIVES HERE TONIGHT WITH THE CLAY COUNTY FAIR ASSOCIATION AND THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. IF WE MISS SOMEBODY, FEEL FREE TO JUMP ON UP THE WE HAVE FAIR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR (NAME).

CLAY COUNTY SHERIFF MICHELLE COOK.

IS NOBODY HERE? COME ON UP! [LAUGHTER]. CLAY COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, (NAME). PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR (NAME), MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEMS DIRECTOR DEAN HAYNE, FAIRGROUNDS INFORMANT RON HORNBECK AND FACILITY DIRECTOR - -. I KNOW YOU HAVEQUITE A FEW PEOPLE HERE SO I WILL TURN THE MICROPHONE TO YOU . THIS IS A SMALL AMOUNT OF THE MATTER PEOPLE MAKE THE FAIR SUCCESSFUL AND SAFE.

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GREATFAIR AND A LOT OF FUN . >> THEY ARE WORKING MORNING PUT IN A LOT OF EFFORT HOURS, THEY PICK UP TRASH, THERE IS NOTHIN THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE WON'T DO . I AM SO SURPRISED THEY ARE STILL HERE WITH US. REBECCA BAILEY, - - SMITH, SANDRA WILSON, (NAME). (LISTING NAMES).

SHE ALSO FINISHED HER FIRST YEAR AS DIRECTOR AND IS OUR MAIN ENTERTAINMENT DIRECTOR SO IF YOU DON'T LIKE OUR LINEUP, I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GIVE YOU HER NUMBER.

I GUESS THAT IS IT.OUR CHAIRMAN, MR. BOB OLSON.

THIS IS MICHAEL'S FIRST YEAR AS DIRECTOR AS WELL.

WE DID HAVE AN AMAZING YEAR, HUNDRED 56,000 PEOPLE CAME TO THE FAIR THIS YEAR, THAT WAS 8000 MORE THAN OUR LARGEST PREVIOUS YEAR. WE RAISED $8000 IN THE PICNIC PROJECT AND HAD A RECORD LIVESTOCK AUCTIONS WHICH RAISE FOR LITTLE KIDS OVER $500,000, THAT WAS A RECORD.

WE HAD A GREAT YEAR. MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT WAS SAFE, FLOOD THAT WE DID NOT KILL ON TRAFFIC BECAUSE WE HAD GREAT TRAFFIC THIS YEAR. WE HAD $21 AND 16 OF THEM GOT ADOPTED THROUGH OUR ADOPTION PROCESS.

THAT IS HUGE FOR LOCAL SHELTERS.

ALTHOUGH LOCAL SHELTERS ARE FULL SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET 16 OF THEM IN HOMES. NOW I WILL DEFER THE REST OF MY

TWO MINUTES TO MY CHAIRMAN. >> I THINK SHE TOOK EVERYTHING AWAY. IT WAS A FANTASTIC FAIR, A GREAT POSITIVE EVENT. THIS FEAR IS KIND OF UNIQUE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. EVERY TIME YOU GO TO A CONVENTION AND RETELL ALL THE AFFAIRS KNOW WE ARE RUN BY OUR VOLUNTEERS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OUR THREE STAFF EMPLOYEES.

THEY JUST SHAKE THEIR HEAD AND SAY HOW DO YOU DO IT? I MENTIONED AT OUR LUNCHEON, VOLUNTEERS BRING TO THE TABLE TRAITS THAT ARE JUST UNIQUE. COMMITMENT, LOYALTY AND THEY GO ALL OUT AND WILL DO ANYTHING. WE PICK UP TRASH, WE MEET EVERY MONTH AND DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO MAKE THE FAIR OPERATES.

A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS ARE RIGHT HERE, WE WOULD BE REMISS IF WE DID EMPHASIZE THAT IS HOW THIS FEAR RUNS.THE TRAFFIC WAS PHENOMENAL, WE ALL WENT A LITTLE NERVOUS AT THE LAST YEAR , BUT I THINK THE LONGEST - - 45 MINUTES.

IT WAS FANTASTIC. 40 MINUTES, EVEN BETTER.

I'M SURROUNDED BY A FANTASTIC TEAM.

I ALWAYS GET ASKED, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO PLAN? WE ARE ALREADY PLANNING NEXT YEAR.I WANT TO THANK THE COUNTY FOR SUPPORTING US AND ALL THE FOLKS COMING OUT.

154,000 PEOPLE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE, THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]. >> IF WE CAN GET PUBLIC WORKS

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HE WILL DO FACILITIES. >> GREAT, THANKS.

CAN THE PUBLIC WORKS FOLKS, PLEASE? AS THEY WORK THEIR WAY UP HERE, WE WILL MOVE TO THE SIDE TO GET THESE GUYS ARE THE FOLKS THAT ACCOMPLISH THIS.

WE DID A LOT OF WORK FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOT ONLY IN THE FAIRGROUNDS ITSELF BUT ON THE PERIMETER.

THIS EVENT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE TEAM.

THANK YOU, IT WAS EVERYTHING FROM FIXING SIDEWALKS TO THE PARKING ISSUE TO IMPROVING THE AXIS ON SPRINGBANK ROAD.

A LOT OF WORK THAT THE GUYS DID.

I AM VERY PROUD TO BE A PART OF THIS TEAM NOT ONLY FOR WHAT THEY DID AT THE FAIR FOR WHAT WE DO EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.

THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING US. [APPLAUSE].

>> AS THEY LEAVE, WE WILL HAVE IT COME UP, DEAN HAYNE'S GROUP.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M NOT SURE THATOUR WORK IS QUITE AS VISIBLE AS PUBLIC WORKS .

WE CATER WORKING WITH TOSH AT THE BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY TO PREP UP FOR WIRELESS ACCESS AND CAMERAS TO SUPPORT THE EEOC, SHERIFF'S OFFICE REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER.

I WANTED TO RECOMMEND A COUPLE OF OUR GUYS HERE BECAUSE THEREFORE TARGET THE FULL EIGHT WEEKS.

WILL HOFFMAN HERE AND JOHN GRISHAM IS OUR NETWORK GUY.

WHAT I WANT TO RELAY IS SOME OF THE WORK THAT OFTEN GOES UNSEE , WE FEEL THISECOLOGY TO WORK . WE SAT ON DAY ONE AND FIVE PROBLEM AFTER PROBLEM, THERE'S NO CONDUIT TO SMASH.

WE HAVE BAD EQUIPMENT, WE HAVE CABLES.

WE HAD ONE PROBLEM AFTER ANOTHER AND IT WAS REAL STRESSFUL ON ALL OF US. WE HAD A COUPLE LIGHTNING STORM THAT TOOK OUT EQUIPMENT AFTER WE HAD ALREADY REPAIRED IT.

I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE OUR GUYS, SO THANK

YOU VERY MUCH. >> LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE

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>> THANK YOU FORTHIS OPPORTUNITY, I WANT TO BRING THE TEAM APPEAR . WE HAVE MR. ROLANDO RIVERA,, NOT GENTLEMEN. THESE ARE THE PERSONNEL AND WHEN STUFF GOES SIDEWAYS, CALL THE MAINTENANCE GUYS.

WE HAVE A SMALL STAFF THAT IS FLEXIBLE AND VERSATILE.

THIS WAS A RECORD-SETTING 154,000 IN ATTENDANCE.

THAT ATTENDANCE KEEPS GOING UP BUT WE HAD LIMITED STAFF.

AS YOU SAID SIR, THE PLANNING STARTS NOW FOR NEXT YEAR FAIR.

THAT UNIT ARE WORKING TOGETHER. GENTLEMEN, IT IS AN HONOR, YOU GUYS GET OUT THERE. THESE PERSONNEL - - TAKE PRIDE IN THEIR FACILITIES. ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE

OPPORTUNITIES. >> CHAIR: I THINK LAST BUT NOT

LEAST WE HAVE THE COUNTY MANAGER.>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THEY ARE A LITTLE SHY IN THE BACK, I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE OUR TOURISM FOLKS.

A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR THEM, IT IS DEFINITELY A TEAM EFFORT.

[APPLAUSE]. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WHO CLEANS UP AS TOSHA MENTIONS ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING AND CLEANING UP, BUT CHARLIE AND MILTON ARE HERE.

THERE ARE TWO, HATS OFF. OVERALL IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL PARTNERSHIP. IT WENT OFF BASICALLY WITHOUT A HITCH. AS YOU HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE AND WORK THROUGH THINGS, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THEFAIR ASSOCIATION FOR AN OUTSTANDING JOB .

PROBABLY EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU THAT MADE THIS FAIR SO SUCCESSFUL. THANK YOU MA'AM.

>> CHAIR: HE WILL GIVE IT JUST A MINUTE WHILE OUR ROOM CLEARS

[Clay County Health Department - Community Health Assessment]

>> IS MORE OF AN ANNOUNCEMENT BUT THANK YOU.

I HAVE NOT BEEN THERE IN A WHILE SO THAT IS ALWAYS GOOD NEWS AFTER WHAT WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH.

I WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION ON THE COMMUNITY HEALTH ASSESSMENT. IT'S AN ASSESSMENT WILL RETAKE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY DATA ALONG WITH FOCUS GROUPS, SURVEYS AND KEY STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS ALONG WITH MORBIDITY AND MORTALITY DATA AND REALLY GET A COMBINATION OF WHAT ARE OUR TOP PRIORITY DATERS AREAS. IT HAS BEEN FIVE YEARS SINCE WE HAVE DONE ONE, WE HAVE LIVED THROUGH PANDEMIC NOW SO IT SHOULD LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAD DONE BEFORE.

WE ARE AT THE PAST NOW WE ARE COLLECTING COMMUNITY SURVEYS.

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YOU WANT TO GET AS MANY COMMUNITY INPUT AS WE CAN.

WHAT WE WILL DO ONCE WE HAD THAT THERE IS WITH THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS, WE WILL IDENTIFY THE TOP TWO OR THREE AREAS TO DEVELOP SMART OBJECTIVES.

I JUST WANTED TO ANNOUNCE TO THE BOARD.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE GLAD TO TAKE THOSE.

>> GREAT, THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR HEATHER? THANK YOU.

[Clay County Strategic Plan]

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS BEEN AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE EMBARKED ON STARTING A PROCESS OF DOING A STRATEGIC PLAN.

I WANTED IN ADDITION TO THE TEAM THAT IS LEADING THIS AND THEY WILL GO THROUGH WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN LOOKS LIKE.

MYSELF TRYING TO GET THE TEAM PUT TOGETHER.

PEYTON FROM EXTENSION SERVICES, THIS IS IN HER WHEELHOUSE AS FAR AS BRINGING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER, DOING THE SURVEYS.

GABBY FROM COMMUNITY SERVICES IS TRAINED AND WILL BE DOING FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN. - - TEAM IS HELPING US SYNTHESIZE SOME OF THE DATA WE ARE SEEING AROUND THE REGION IN WHICH THE TEAM WILL GET INTO AND - - TO THE HEALTHY HEAVY LIFTING AS FAR AS STARTING THAT PROCESS.

WAS THE GOAL OF STRATEGIC PLAN? HEATHER DID A GREAT JOB, INITIALLY OTHERS PLAN FOR THE NEXT FIVE, 10, 20 YEARS OF WHAT WE WANT CLAY COUNTY TO BE. WE WANT TO COME BACK WITH A FIVE-YEAR MEASURABLE GOAL. HERE'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN YOUR THE MEASURABLE WE CAN MEASURE SUCCESS FROM A STRATEGIC PLAN. YOU'VE ALL SEEN STRATEGIC PLANS THAT WANT TO DO GREAT THINGS BUT NEVER SAY IF IT IS SUCCESSFUL. WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, GABBY,

TAKE A LOOK AWAY. >> HELLO, GABBYWITH COMMUNITY AND SOCIAL SERVICES . WE STARTED OFF THE STRATEGIC PLAN WITH WORKING ONTO THE SIZING A REPORT WITH STARTING A BASELINE FEVER WE ARE LACKING AND SEE WHERE WE CAN GROW, WHAT IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE MADE AND THAT SPREADSHEET IS VERY FAST AND AS FOR THE BASELINE TOGETHER WITH HOW WE CAN DO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN WITH THE DIALOGUE PROCESSES AND UNDERSTANDING WITH THAT ROADMAP LOOKS LIKE THE FUTURE THE

COUNTY. >> IT'S STRATEGIC TO US TOGETHER MULTIPLE PERSPECTIVES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

I HAD THE SCRIPT TO THREE BIG CATEGORIES.

ONE OF THOSE BEING COUNTY RESIDENTS, HE WILL MAKE SURE WE DO COUNTY DISCUSSIONS IN EACH ONE OF THE DISTRICTS.

WE HAVE OUR COUNTY GOVERNMENT ENTITIES, THAT'S DEPARTMENT HEAD AND COUNTY EMPLOYEES ON LEADERSHIP POSITIONS AND THE OTHER ORGANIZATION IN THE COUNTY AS WELL.

CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICES AND FEDERAL AND STATE CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATIONS. OUR TIMELINE FOR THIS WHOLE PROCESS AND MAKING SURE WE GET THOSE PERSPECTIVES IN THE VARIOUS PEOPLES, WE HAVE STARTED NOW IN APRIL, WE HAVE A FACILITATION PLAN PROCESS AND ALSO CREATED A SURVEY WHICH GABBY WILL TELL YOU ABOUT IN A MINUTE.

WE WILL POST THOSE DEPARTMENT HEAD DISCUSSIONS NOW AND WE WILL MOVE INTO OUR COMMUNITY FACILITATED DISCUSSIONS IN MAY AND JUNE. IN JULY, WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE ORGANIZATIONS WE WILL HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH EACH ONE OF THOSE. IN AUGUST THROUGH OCTOBER, WE WILL HAVE OUR MEETINGS WYTHE COUNTY EMPLOYEES ON LEADERSHIP POSITIONS AND PASS IT ON OVER TO THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA RETAIL COUNCIL WHERE THEY WILL DRAFT A REPORT BASED ON THE

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THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS WILL BE UPCOMING IN MAY AND JUNE.

OUR FIRST ONE IS MAY 15. HE WILL HAVE A DEMONSTRATION BUILDING ON MAY 22 . ON MAY 24, WE WILL HAVE IT AT THE MIDDLEBURG LIBRARY JUNE 1 THE ORANGE PARK - - ON JUNE 14 AT THE KEYSTONE HEIGHTS PAVILION.

ALL OF THOSE COMMUNITY DISCUSSIONS WILL BE FROM 6:00 TO 7:30 P.M. WHAT CAN YOU BE LOOKING FOR? IF YOU USE THIS QR CODE, IT WILL TAKE YOU STRAIGHT TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE UNDER THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TAB. THERE WILL ALSO BECAUSE THE COMMUNICATION ON SOCIAL MEDIA FOR OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM.

THERE IS A DEDICATED NEWSLETTER THAT INDIVIDUALS CAN SIGN UP FOR TO GET CONFIRMATION, EDUCATIONAL COMPONENTS AND UPCOMING DATA. THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS ARE LISTEDON THE COUNTY CALENDAR AS OF RIGHT NOW .

THERE IS A STRICT STRATEGIC PLAN SURVEY YOU CAN FIND THE PATH TOP OF YOUR PAGE THAT WE ARE TELLING ALL RESIDENTS TO FILL OUT THE EARLIEST CONVENIENCE.

IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER WHEN WE COME TO YOU AND GIVE THE PRESENTATION, THAT WILL BE A CUMULATIVE REPORT FROM ALL THE MEETINGS ACROSS THE BOARD THAT WE HAVE .

WHAT ARE WE ASKING FOR YOU TODAY? WE WOULD LIKE FEEDBACK ON THE FORMAT THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE SUGGESTED. WE WANT FEEDBACK ON THE PLAN IN GENERAL. PARTICIPATE IN YOUR DISTRICT MEETING AND ENCOURAGE PARTICIPATION FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT STRATEGIES FOR THE FUTURE, HOW FAR OUT? WHAT IS OUR PLAN HERE?

>> IMPACT FEE IS A 22 YEAR PLAN.

WE BROKE THAT DOWN TO WHAT WE HOPE TO EVENTUALLY BE A 20 YEAR CIP PLAN. WE ALREADY PRESENTED A 10 YEAR PLAN TO THE COUNTY FOR BUDGET PURPOSES.

WE HAVE TO ADOPT A FIVE-YEAR AND ROLL IT OUT TO ONE YEAR.

THIS STRATEGIC PLAN IS A STEP TO HELP US FIGURE OUT THE 20 YEAR PLAN. OVERALL, WE WANT TO BUILD A 20 YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN WITH FIVE YEARS OF MEASURABLE SPIRIT FIVE USE OF MEASURABLE IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING INTO CIP EVERY YEAR. LOOKING AT OTHER COUNTIES AND PEOPLE FROM THE STATE, FIVE YEARS IS WITH HAD A MEASURABLE GOAL. LEON COUNTY SAYS I WILL PLAT 1000 REASON FIVE YEARS, THAT IS A MEASURABLE GOAL.

THEY WANT TO SEE 1000 TREES PLANTED,THAT IS THEIR GOAL .

>> THE SECOND COMMENT I HAVE IS WE SEE A LOT OF MEETINGS WITHIN THE CONFINES OF CLAY COUNTY, BUT THE ENVIRONMENT OUTSIDE CLAY COUNTY AFFECTS WHAT WE DO. WE NEED TO BE LOOKING OUTSIDE AND TRENDS IN THE NATION. ELECTRIC VEHICLES CHARGING STATION, HOW DO WE EMBEDTHOSE ? WE NEED TO BE LOOKING WAY OUTSIDE THE CONFINES OF CLAY COUNTY.

>> I THINK BETH CAN SPEAK TO WHAT WE HAVE ASKED THEM TO DO AND WHAT IS ALREADY BEEN DONE WITH LOOKING OUTSIDE OF CLAY

COUNTY. >> GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY.

THAT IS TRUE, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS IN LOOKING AT THE CLAY COUNTY PLAN SPECIFICALLY, WE LOOKED A LOT CLAY COUNTY DETAILS BUT ALSO TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE KNOW WITH REGIONAL PERSPECTIVES AND SAY PERSPECTIVES.

THE KIND OF HELP US SHAPE OUR LOOK AT CLAY COUNTY.

I THINK THE ESV STUFF IS A GREAT SEGUE AND CARBON REDUCTION. WE TOOK OUR PERSPECTIVE AND TRY TO DO THAT, BUT THAT IS WHO, WE WILL BE ATTENDING THOSE

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A LOT OF IT IS FOLLOWING THE MONEY.

WE TALKED ABOUT GRANTS, WHERE THE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES? AS YOU KNOW, GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOLLOW TRENDS.

WE HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON THAT, BUT I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE WATCHING, LISTENING AND LOOKING AT

STATEWIDE AND FEDERAL AS WELL. >> THEY REQUIRE MORE POWER IN THE HOME. TODAY WE HAVE 100 AMP SERVICE REQUIREMENTS. THAT MAY NOT BE ENOUGH FOR THE

FUTURE. >> WE MAY WANT TO ADD CLAY

ELECTRIC AS STAKEHOLDERS. >> ARE WE GOING ON THE RIGHT PATH? CAN YOU SUPPORT IT?IT'S GREAT TO SEE IF YOU WANT TO GO DOWN THE PATH XYZ BUT IF CLAY ELECTRIC SAYS THAT'S GREAT BUT WE CAN'T GET THERE, WE WANT TO SAY SOMETHING IN THE PLAN THAT WE CAN'T DO.

>> NOW IS THE TIME FOR THEM TO PLAN - -

>> MY BOSS MAKE SURE THERE. WE ALSO ADDED ON, IT WASN'T UNTIL RECENT WE SHOULD HOW ABOUT TALLAHASSEE? WE ASKED THEM TO TALK TO THEM BRIEFLY, I'LL HAVE DETAILS TO GIVE THEM THAT THEY WILL BE ALSO IN THE CONGRESS.

I TALKED TO BRIAN CAMPBELL AND THE MORE WE CAN GET OUT THAT IS WHAT WE ARE PLANNING FOR, THE BETTER THE STRATEGIC PLAN WILL BE. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO PREDICT THE FUTURE, AFTER THE TIME AND TIME AGAIN TO THE STAFF AND EVERYONE.WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN AND A ROADMAP SO ALL OF HIS ARROWS ARE STARTING TO FLOW IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND IN

THE SAME DIRECTION. >> FROM THE COUNTY MANAGER ASKED ME WHAT I WANT TO SEE, THIS WAS IT.

THIS IS WHAT I HEAR FROM OUR CITIZENS, WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR CLAY COUNTY? WHAT DO WE WANT TO BE? MOST RESIDENTS ARE WE DON'T WANT TO BE IS A COUNTY FULL OF A TON ARE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS.

THAT IS WHERE WE ARE HEADED THESE DAYS.

SCALING THE BACK AND DECIDING WHAT WE WANT THE NEXT 20 YEARS WITH THE ORIGINAL INTENTION WAS.

OTHER QUESTIONS? >> LOU BE ABLE TO COMPARE THE FINAL PRODUCT THAT IS PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION ACROSS NOT JUST THE REGION BUT ACROSS THE STATE? FOR ME, I'M LOOKING AT THIS IT'S BROAD IN SCOPE.

I GET THAT IS PROBABLY INTENTIONAL HOWEVER, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WERE OTHER STATES HAVE DONE THIS AND IMPLEMENTED AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE 15 YEARS, I'M ASSUMING THIS IS NOT A NEW CONCEPT. WHAT DID IT LOOK LIKE FOR THOSE STATES? HOW WERE THEY ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THEIR GOALS AND HOW CAN WE AVOID ANY PITFALLS THAT

THEY MAY HAVE FALLEN INTO? >> ARE NOT COMPARING TO OTHER STATES OF THE APICAL BECAUSE OF THE JURISDICTIONAL.THEY HAD DIFFERENT CONCERNS THAN WE HAVE BUT I THINK INSIDE OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, BEFORE WE EVEN STARTED DOWN THIS PATH, WE LOOK AT SANTA ROSA, COLLIER, LEON COUNTIES AS THEY APPROACHED.

MOST OF THEM ARE IN THEIR SECOND VERSION.

IF WE LOOK AT THAT, WE SAID CAN SOME THINGS THAT IS NOT MEASURABLE WE SHOULD HAVE MEASURED OR THEATER THINGS NOW.

YES, MA'AM, WE WILL PULL TOGETHER OTHER PEOPLE'S PLAN TO

SEE WHERE THEY ARE AT. >> AND THE OTHERS?

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IF YOU HAVE A CONFLICT, GET WITH TERESA SO WE DON'T HAVE - - SAME TIME. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.WE HAD CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS HERE EARLIER AND THEY SKATED OUT WITH AN UPDATE. WE HAD SUPERVISOR ELECTION AND SHERIFF MICHELLE COOK. IT IS NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE THIS AFTERNOON. ALRIGHT, NEXT TO THE APPROVAL

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

>> COMMISSIONER: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING ON APRIL 11, 2023.

>> SECOND. >> CHAIR: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A DISCUSSION SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

NEXT WE ARE GOING TO A PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HAVE A THOSE OUR CITY MANAGER FROM KEYSTONE HEIGHTS.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER.YOU ONLY SEE ME OF YOUR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR TWO REASONS, THERE IS A THANK YOU OR CAN WE TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED? TONIGHT IS A THANK YOU SO MUCH. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ARE FULLY RECOVERED FROM THIS PAST WEEKEND, BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR A VERY SUCCESSFUL - - YOU HAVE A FANTASTIC STAFF AND A FANTASTIC COUNTY MANAGER. WE ENJOY OUR PARTNERSHIPS.

I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSIONERS THAT MADE IT OUT.

A HUGE IMPACT COME OUT TO THINK MRS. KIMBERLY MORGAN AND HER TEAM FOR ALL OF HER EFFORTS TO THAT.

OUR SUCCESS IS BECAUSE OF OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CLAY COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS AND I CAN'T REITERATE THAT ENOUGH. THIS IS SIMPLY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR A VERY SUCCESSFUL PAST SEVEN DAYS.

I ALSO WANT TO INVITE ALL OF YOU TO OUR FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES DINNER WHICH OF THE DAY BEFORE GRADUATION.

- - WILL BE OUR GUEST SPEAKER. WE ARE CHANGING THINGS UP IN THE TRADITIONAL FORMAT, WE WILL HAVE A GUEST SPEAKER AT 6:30 IN THE PAVILION THAN THE TRADITIONAL PIG ROAST AND LUAU I KEYSTONE BEACH. MARK YOUR CALENDARS, HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE. AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

OUR PARTNERSHIPS. >> THANK YOU, IT WAS A LOT OF FUN. I THINK WE ARE ALL STILL A LITTLE TIRED. ALRIGHT, MOVING TO A CONSENT

[CONSENT AGENDA]

FOR DISCUSSION? >> MANAGER, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITHOUT ITEM 5.

>> CHAIR: WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

[5.  Budget Resolution Amending FY22/23 Budget (R. Kantor)]

STRAIGHTFORWARD. >> ÃIF I REMEMBER RIGHT, YOU WERE TELLING ME, WE BUDGETED A YEAR AGO, AND NOW WE ARE READY TO PUT THE PROJECT INTO MOTION AND THE BIDS ARE HIGHER THAN WHAT WE BUDGETED FOR A YEAR AGO.

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SO WE ARE NOT ACTUALLY OVERBUDGET.

WE HAVE NOT SPENT MORE MONEY THAN WE HAVE ALLOCATED IN THE

SITUATION, CORRECT? >> CORRECT.

>> OKAY. I WAS ASKING, ARE WE SEEING ANY PROJECTS COMING OVERBUDGET? IN THIS CASE, IT IS NOT.

BUT, WE ARE TRYING TO BE AHEAD OF THE GAME BECAUSE THIS PROJECT WILL BE COMING FOR US IN THE COMING WEEKS FOR

APPROVAL. >> THE SECOND ISSUE WHICH IS A CONCERN TO ME AND IS ONLY $12,000 IS ON THE GUN RANGE PROJECT. I REMEMBER BACK, THE PAINFUL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE GUN RANG , WE PUSHED.

IT WAS NOT TO EXCEED AM SUPPOSED TO BE A QUICK PROJECT IN JULY 2022. HERE IS ON APRIL AND IT IS STILL NOT DONE THE QUESTION OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS IS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WHEN WE HAD THE DATASHEET THAT COMPARED ALL THE BIDS, IT HAD A LINE ON THAT THE SAID TORTOISES SURVEY.

OUR CONTRACTOR THAT WE AWARD THE CONTRACT TO PUT $9605 IN THEIR BID.I AM TOLD THAT THEY DID NOT INCLUDE WAS MOVING THE TORTOISES. MY QUESTION FOR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS IS DID YOU BELIEVE THAT IN THEIR.

>> THESE ARE THE PUNCHLIST ITEMS TO BUILD HIS GUN RANGE AND IF NOT, WE MESSED UP. WHY WOULD WE DO A SURVEY AND WE BEAR THE COST OF MOVING THE TORTOISES.

I UNDERSTAND IS $12,000, BUT THIS COMPANY HAS NICKEL AND DIME DOES IN THAT STRETCH THIS PROJECT OUT IT WAS VERY FRUSTRATING TO ME FOR THE PUBLIC.

WE MADE A PRESENTATION TO THE PUBLIC AND NOW WE ARE ADDING TO

IT. >> HAVE THEM MOVE THEM?

>> YES. >> CAN WE DO SOMETHING NOW THAT

THEY ALREADY DID IT? >> TO CLARIFY, IT WASN'T DIRECTED THE CONTRACTOR. WITH THIS, IT DOES SAY SURVEY ON IT. IN THE FUTURE, MAKE A LOT WITH THESE BIDS, MANY TO HAVE ANY ENDANGERED SPECIES ON THE SURVEY THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REMOVED OR MITIGATED IN SOME WAY. WE ARE HYPER FOCUSED ON THE GOAL FOR TORTOISES BUT IT COULD BE OTHER PAGES SPECIES THAT WERE ALSO ON THE SURVEY AS THEY DO THIS ENVIRONMENTAL SURVEY.

WE WILL PUT A LINE ITEM IN THERE AND A CONTINGENCY ITEM PER SE. IT IS NOT CHEAP TO MOVE A GOPHER TORTOISE. THE GOING RATE CURRENTLY IS HOW MUCH? 8000, THANKS JEAN.

NORMALLY, THEY ARE ONLY GOING BY THE HOLES AND WHEN THEY DID THEIR INITIAL SURVEY TO GO THROUGH IT, THEY ENDED UP FINDING A FEW MORE ON IT. IF ADDITIONAL ENDANGERED SPECIES ARE FOUND, WE WILL HAVE A CONTINGENCY NUMBER AND THEIR.

>> IS NOT ABOUT THE TORAH'S COMMITMENT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A BID PRESENTATION MADE TO US THAT I THOUGHT WAS COMPLETE AND MOVING A TORTOISE, WE WILL ASK YOU TO TELL US THAT THEY ARETORTOISES THERE . WHY WOULD ANYONE THINK WE WOULD NOT OF MOVED ON. IT'S BEYOND ME, I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS AND IT BEGS THE QUESTION WHAT ELSE COME

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>> MANAGER, HAVE A QUESTION. IS THAT REMOVING THE TORTOISES OVER FINDING THE ADDITIONAL TORTOISES? I UNDERSTAND THE TORTOISE AND THE DAUGHTER WAS AN ALL-INCLUSIVE PRICE, THEY WOULD HAVE OPTED TO USE A DIFFERENT.

IS IT THREE TORTOISES AT $7000 EACH?

>> THE INITIAL SURVEY PROVIDED BY DESIGN PUT TORTOISES IN THE PERMANENT AREA.YOU'RE GOING TO THE BID PACKAGE ON THE LINE ITEMS, WE DID HAVE A SURVEY IN THEIR AND THERE'S A REGULATION REQUIREMENT ON THE DID THE SURVEY OBVIOUSLY FOUND THE GOAL FOR TORTOISES. NOW WE HAVE TO REMOVE THEM FROM OUR PROPERTY. WI HAS THAT CAPABILITY AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET IT DOWN TO $12,000 AND THE ESTIMATED 8000 SHOULD BE 24,000 TO HELP OUT WITH THE PRICING COSTS.

GOING FORWARD, WE LEARNED SEVE CONTRACTS .

THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MAYBE WE PUT A LINE ITEM IN THEIR TO MAKE A FIRM, FAIR AND CONSISTENT FOR THE BIDDERS, EVERY COUNTRY WOULD PUT 24,000 LINE ITEM ACROSS THE BOARD.

>> THE PROBLEM IS, ONE OF THEM DID.

ONE OF THEM PUT - - CLEARLY THOUGHT THERE WANT TO MOVE THE TORTOISES. I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE BEEN SUCKERED AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS WTI OR FORESIGHT.

TODAY PAY $9600 FOR A SURVEY? >> THEY DID HAVE THE SURVEY

COMPLETED, MA'AM. >> I HAVE CLEARLY BEEN THE DEAD NOT GOPHER TORTOISE, HORSE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WILL BE VOTED ON LAST YEAR'S COMING BACK TO HAVING TO PAY MORE MONEY. IT'S THE PRINCIPLE OF THE

MATTER. >> IN THIS PROJECT, DO WE HAVE A CONTINGENCY LINE ITEM? MOST PROJECTS HAVE A CONTINGENCY. DON'T WE HAVE THIS POLICY?

NO? >> THAT HAS BEEN ABORTIFACIENT FOR A WHILE NOW THAT WE CAN PUT CONTINGENCIES BECAUSE IF YOU PUT A CONTINGENCY AND, THE BOARD DIRECTION HAS BEEN THAT THEY WANT TO BE THE APPROVAL OF ANYTHING OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT.

IF YOU PUT IN A 5% CONTINGENCY AND A TIME IN OUR CONTRACT, DAMAGES IS NOT COMING BACK TO THE BOARD FOR THE 5%.

STAFF IS NOT ATTIC CONTINGENCIES TO THOSE CONTRACTS. THE CONTINGENCY IS YOU GET THE COUNTY MANAGER CERTAIN LATITUDE ON THE CHANGE ORDER FOR A PROJECT WITHIN A DEFINED BUDGE .

THE BUDGET IS THE CONTROLLING DOCUMENT IN THIS CASE, WE COMING BACK FOR A $2000 CHANGE BECAUSE HER BUDGET SHORT $4000.

>> CHAIR: AND THE OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ARRIVED TO A SOLUTION HERE ON PREVENTING THIS FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE. WHAT WOULD'VE BEEN THE SAFEGUARD HERE THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT MOVING FORWARD?

>> JEAN JUST TALKED ABOUT IT. >> YOUR SAFEGUARD IS DOING EXACTLY WHAT JEAN, THE COUNTY MANAGER TALKED ABOUT.

YOU HAVE A LINE ITEM THAT SAYS EITHER YOU ARE REQUIRED TO REMOVE ALL ANIMALS FOUND OR YOU WILL HAVE THE AVALON ITEM IN YOUR BUDGET AND SAYS PLEASE GIVE ME AN ESTIMATE OF HOWMUCH

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IF WE SEE A LINE THAT SAYS WE ARE GOING TO PUT IN $100,000 FOR CONTINGENCY FOR REMOVING ENDANGERED SPECIES, THAT IS A CONTRACT NEGOTIATION POINT THAT WE CAN NEGOTIATE AT THAT POINT.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, SOMETHING SIMILAR

TO THAT. >> CHAIR: I AM ASKING FOR HONESTY FROM BIDDERS AND HONESTY TO LIFT THE CONTRACTS.

I FEEL IF THEY DID NOT LIVE TO THIS CONTRACT AND THE TAXPAYERS

ARE PAYING THE PRICE. THAT IS HOW I FEEL.>> THE PROBLEM IS THEY WON'T KNOWWHAT THEY WANTED TO UNTIL THEY GET THERE . AGAIN, THERE COULD BE 20 OUT THERE WERE THREE, HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT? YOU HAVE FIVE COMPANIES AND NONE OF THEM KNOW WHAT TO RUN

INTO. >> AT THAT ON A MONDAY, THE COUNTY MANAGER WOULD'VE APPROVED BUT DID NOT TELL US THAT HE SAW THE SET UP TIME. IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE NOT GETTING THE BILL FOR THIS UNTIL THE END.

>> THIS WAS PAID AND THE WAY BACK IN APRIL OR MAY OF LAST YEAR. THE RESULT OF THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT TERM IS, BUT IT'S AN ACCOUNTING TRANSITION AT THE CLERK'S OFFICE WAS REQUESTING BE MADE.

FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE AUDITOR, THEY WANTED TO MOVE TO A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT. THAT IS THE SOLE PURPOSE, THE

BILL HAS BEEN PAID. >> ORIGINALLY, WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS UNDER THE CONTINUING SERVICE CONTRACT.

IT'S A $12,000 ITEM WHICH FALLS UNDER THE COUNTY MANAGER PURVIEW. AFTER STARTING THE PROCESS AND DOING THE $12,000, THERE WAS A DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION OF WEATHER THAT CAN'T COME OUT OF THE FACILITIES BUDGET OR CAPITAL - -. THE BUDGET HAS TO GO TO 3.5 MILLION IS THE TOTAL NUMBER. TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO PUT THIS OVER HERE. IF THIS WAS A DAY TODAY, AND THE OTHER PROJECT AND WAS NOT BEING CAPITALIZED, CLEARING GOPHER TORTOISES IS UNDER THE COUNTY MANAGER PURVIEW FOR THE

DOLLAR AMOUNT. >> WTI REPRESENTS OUR SPIRIT AGAIN, I'M BEATING A DEAD HORS , IS NOT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS CLEAR THAT WE DID NOT PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.

THEY MOVED TO GOPHER TORTOISES, GOT THE APPLICANT RECEIPTS TO TELL US WHAT THEY DID ANDWHERE THEY MOVED ON ? THERE IS IDENTIFICATION - - HAVING MORE TORTOISES THAN WE THOUGHT. MOVING FORWARD, IF YOU HAD THAT LINE ITEM THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PERSON AUTHORIZED BY WHATEVER AUTHORITY TO AUTHORIZE MOVING THESE THINGS, THAT IS TO BE PAID AT SOME POINT.IT COMES WITH A PROJECT THAT WE'VE HAD SOME DELAYS THAT I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT.

THE COUNTY MANAGER HAS BEEN STRONG IN DEALING WITH THIS VENDOR BUT IN ANY CASE, EVEN IF WE WERE ACTUALLY HAPPY WITH THE VENDOR, TURTLES HAD TO BE MOVED AND REMOVED THEM AND WE HAVE TO PAY WHATEVER THE GOING RATE IS TO MOVE THE TURTLE.

THEY ARE HOPEFULLY VERY HAPPY WHEREVER THEY ENDED UP.

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>> TYPIFIED ACROSS THE ROAD, THAT IS OBLIGATED.

>> THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION IS AROUND THE UNKNOWN.

WHEN HE WROTE THE CONTRACT AND THE BID THE CONTRACT, THEY DO NOT KNOW. THE STUDY WAS TO DETERMINE AND CONTINUES CONTINGENCY LINE ITEMS ARE THE WAYS YOU HANDLE THIS. THERE ARE PLUS AND -2 CONTINGENCIES IN EVERY PROJECT BUT THAT IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. THEY WON'T SIGN UP FOR AN UNKNOWN WITHOUT CHARGING US FOR IT.

THEY WILL CHARGE HIGH, THEY WILL CHARGE FOR 21 TURTLES JUST IN CASE. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO THAT WITH NO CONTINGENCIES. I WOULD TEST STAFF TO LOOK AT THIS AND SEE WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE FUTURE TO SEE HOW WE CAN KEEP TO AVOID THIS I THOUGHT THIS, YOU THOUGHT THAT. NOBODY KNOWS UNTIL YOU DO THE STUDY AND EVEN THEN THERE IS A 90% PROBABILITY THAT YOU ARE ACCURATE. WITHOUT A CONTINGENCY, WE WILL

BE RIGHT BACK HERE. >> WHO BEARS THE COST OF THE

STUDY? >> THE CONTRACTOR.

>> IT IS IN THEIR CONTRACT. >> THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING THAT IS DOES THE STUDY HAVE TO BE CONDUCTED BYTHEM ? OR IS IT A COST TO US AND THAT IS WHY? WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS IF YOU CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION BEFORE HAND SO THAT THIS CONTINGENCY QUESTION IS NOT WHAT WE NEED TO

DEAL WITH . >> ULTIMATELY, AN OUTSIDE AGENCY COMES INTO THE SURVEY, IT WAS WTI.

THERE WAS A CHECK AND BALANCE THERE, NOT LIKE FORESIGHT SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE THREE VERSUS 20.

ALSO, FORESIGHT SUBCONTRACTOR THAT OUT.

THERE ARE OTHER REQUIREMENTS WHEN YOU PUT THE FENCE UP THEY DON'T RETURN BACK BECAUSE THEY WERE REPOSITIONED ON THE PARCEL ITSELF. IF YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE A NOTE FROM AN UNKNOWN, THE ONLY OTHER WAY HE COULD DO IT ISGROUND PENETRATING RADAR WHICH WILL COST MORE MONEY .

THEY ARE TAKING EQUIPMENT AND CAREFULLY DIGGING IT OUT AND SEEING WHAT IS THERE. THAT WHOLE NOT ONLY IS THE GOPHER TORTOISES, THERE'S A FROG BUT USES IT AND THE SNAKE FOR MY PART AS I DO HAVE THE EXACT NAMES BUT THEY ARE ALL ENDANGERED SPECIES. IT'S WHY BECOMES A BIG DEAL ON PROPERTY TO MAKE SURE THAT IS TAKING CARE OF PROPERLY.

WE HAVE NOT EVEN GOTTEN TO THE WOODPECKERS, THE MOTHS, THE OTHER ANIMALS YOU GET THE DEAL WITH DEPENDING UPON THE NATURE IS THAT FAIR. WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, TO MITIGATE THE UNKNOWN RISK OF INCREASING COST, WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND EXAMINE THAT AND EXAMINE WITH THAT LINE AND WOULD BE ON FUTURE BIDS SO IT IS NOT JUST, THERE'S A SURVEY PORTION OF IT AND THE REMOVAL PORTION OF IT.

FOR THE REMOVAL CO-OP, WE WOULD GO FORWARD AND LET THE BOARD KNOW THAT WE HAD MORE ENDANGERED SPECIES THAN ANTICIPATED. THEN, GO FORWARD FROM THERE.

>> IF I COULD ADD A LITTLE BIT OF THAT, WE DISCUSSED THIS EARLIER TODAY, IF YOU ARE ASKING ABOUT DOING THE SURVEY IN ADVANCE, THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE CONTRACT.

WHAT YOU ARE LOSING THERE IS TIME.

WHEN INTO THE CONTRACT, THEIR STAGING, PREPPING EVEN FOR THE OF THE SURVEY DONE. IF YOU SAID TO THE SURVEY, GET

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>> CAN WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM - - GOPHER TORTOISE MOVING OR PAYMENT? STRICTLY FOR BUDGET TRANSFERS.

>> I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

>> SECOND. >> CHAIR: WE HAVE A MOTION AND ASECOND . ALL THOSE, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING I. THOSE OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIED FIVE ÃZERO.

[14.  Public Hearing to consider ZON-0123-00002. (District 1, Comm. Cella) (M. Brown) Continued from March 28, 2023.]

>> AS YOU POINTED OUT, THIS CONTINUED FROM MARCH 28.

I BELIEVE THE AGENT FOR THE APPLICANT DESIRES TO REQUEST FROM THE BOARD AND THE CONTINUATION OF JUST IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO ALLOW HER TO COME UP HERE AND MAKE THAT REQUEST AND SEE WHETHER YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT OR ACT ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT, WE HAVE ORDERED IN THE PRESENTATION ON THE 28TH SO I WILL LEAVE IT UP TO THE BOARD

AND YOUR DESIRES. >> THIS IS THE REZONING OF 9.56 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL - - DO YOU WANT TO

HEAR MIKE'S PRESENTATION? >> I WAS A MONTH AGO REQUESTING A CONTINUOUS - - AND EFFECTIVELY ENDED UP IN THE HOSPITAL THE SAME DAY FIGURING. HE HAD A MEDICAL PROCEDURE AND DEVELOPED AN INFECTION. HE IS NOW ON THE MEND, THINGS ARE GETTING BETTER BUT UNFORTUNATELY HE COULD STILL NOT BE HERE. WE ARE REQUESTING ANOTHER MONTH SO WE CAN PROPERLY ADVERTISE AGAIN AND COME BACK TO SEE YOU AND MARK WILL COME BACK TO SEE YOU.

>> QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? HAVE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE ONE CAR TO SPEAK IN THE

PUBLIC HEARING, DEBORAH CLARK. >> HI, MY NAME IS DEBORAH CLARK. I LIVE IN CLAUDE ROAD, AND THE TRUSTEE FOR MY PARENTS DOES TO LIVE ON THE PROPERTY.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WEST ON HIGHWAY 220 IS TO MAINTAIN A RESIDENTIAL LOOK ZONING FREE OF COMMERCIAL BUSINESS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CHURCHES, ALLOWING THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS GOES AGAINST - - MUCH EASIER FOR OTHERS TO FOLLOW.

REALISTICALLY, I KNOW THAT CHANGE WILL COME.

ONLY TWO PLAN PROCESS WILL REMAIN IF THEY DO THIS.

THERE IS ALREADY A CARE SPOT, URGENT CARE, FOR LESS CRITICAL NEEDS 1.2 MILESFROM THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION .

BAPTIST HOSPITAL IS ONLY 3.2 MILES FROM THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE NUMEROUS PRIMARY CARE OR SURGERY LOCATIONS NEARBY.

I QUESTION THE NEED AT THIS LOCATION.

OUR ROAD IS A DEAD END ROAD, IT IS SOMEWHAT PAVED AND MISSTATED NO ACCESS WOULD BE TOO THE ACA EMERGENCY ROAD HOWEVER, - -

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IT'S A DARK ROAD AND DIFFICULT. THERE IS NO EASY TRANSFER THERE ALL THE TIME. LIGHTING AND NOISE IS ALSO AN ISSUE. 60,000 FEET, - - WE WOULD REQUEST A BUFFER ZONE SUGGESTING PROPERTY WITH THE HIGH FENCE AND PUT IN PLACE. THERE IS A SECONDARY PLAN THAT 30,000 SQUARE-FOOT PROPERTY TO BE BUILT AT A LATERDATE .

ANYTHING DAY FIX OR WANT TO DO THAT THAT'S AND THAT'S ON WILL BE ACCESSIBLE THERE. INCREASED CRIME, THERE IS A SCHOOL THERE. HAVING THOSE DRUGS NEXT DOOR TO A SCHOOL IS A CONCERN. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WILL SAY IT WAS THIS WAS TURNED DOWN BY THE ZONING DEPARTMENT AND WAS APPROVED FIVE ÃTWO. THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD PROMOTION AND DISCUSSION.

>> THEY ARE ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE AGAIN?

>> YES. >> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO

CONTINUE TO MAY 23. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> I WILL SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

SECOND, FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> MENTOR IF I COULD, I UNDERSTAND THE ATTORNEY HAS BEEN ILL THE MY STATION WOULD BE IF WE GET TO A POINT, WE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS IF FOR WHATEVER REASON IS NOT A SITUATION WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT BUT IF IT'S NOT AVAILABLE THAT ON MAY 23 WE DRAW THE LINE. THEN WE MOVE FORWARD AT THAT

TIME. >> CHAIR: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING I. THOSE OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIED FIVE ÃZERO.

[15.  RFP No. 22/23-24 Solid Waste Transfer Stations - Operation, Transport, and Disposal (K. Smith/M. Towns)]

TRANSFER AND DISPOSAL. >> GOOD EVENING.

OUR CURRENT AGREEMENT FOR THE SOLID WASTE TRANSFER DISPOSAL SERVICE EXPIRING ON SEPTEMBER 30.

THE COUNTY ISSUED A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS ON FEBRUARY 2.

THERE WERE THREE EVALUATORS ON THE COMMITTEE, OUR DIRECTOR OF ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AND RECYCLING COORDINATOR.

TWO COUNTRIES SUBMITTED PROPOSALS IN WASTE MANAGEMENT.

THE COMMITTEE EVALUATED THE CONTRACTORS - - THEY ARE BOTH HERE TODAY. INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET AND THE INFORMATION IN HOW THE COMMITTEE SCORE THE CONTRACTORS, THE CONTRACTORS WERE SCORED ON A PROJECT APPROACH, SUMMARY OF QUALIFICATIONS, PROPOSE COSTS, FINANCIAL CAPABILITY, PAST PERFORMANCE AND LOCAL PREFERENCE. PACKAGES WERE INSTRUCTED TO GIVE A 5 TO 10 MINUTE PRESENTATION WITH QUESTIONS TO FOLLOW. WE SHOULD EACH HAVE A SCORESHEET. FIRST, WE HAVE GFL.

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>> GOOD EVENING MADAME SHARON COMMISSIONERS, COUNTY MANAGER AND STAFF. I'M THE GOVERNOR CONTRACT MANAGER, 7580 PHILLIPS HIGHWAY IN JACKSONVILLE FLORIDA.

BEFORE WE START TONIGHT, I'LL TAKE A MINUTE AND THINK THE COUNTY DEMONSTRATION AND HIS COMMISSION TO ALLOW US TO PRESENT YOU THIS EVENING PROVIDE MORE BACKGROUND ON OUR EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATION FOR THIS RFP.

JUST A LITTLE BIT OF AN OUTLINE OF HER PRESENTATION THIS EVENING, WE WILL TALK ABOUT GFL ENVIRONMENTAL, OUR EXPERIENCE, PROPOSED SITE LOCATIONS, PROPOSED PRICING AND SELECTION 2.6 IS THE AWARD OPTION IN THE DOCUMENT.

SO, GFL WAS FOUNDED IN 2007 WITH OUR CURRENT CEO.

IN THE PAST 16 YEARS, WE HAVE GROWN OUR COMPANY TO BE THE FOURTH-LARGEST SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT COMPANY IN NORTH AMERICA. WE HAVE EXPERIENCE IN COLLECTION SOLID WASTE, TRANSFER STATIONS, AND LANDFILL MANAGEMENT. ALSO, LANDFILL OPERATING AGREEMENTS. WE ALSO HAVE 195 RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL OPERATION THROUGHOUT THE U.S. WITH 57% OF THE REVENUES DRIVING FROM THE U.S. MARKETS.

WE OPERATE UNDER THE TRANSFER STATIONS AND LANDFILL OPERATION FACILITIES AND AT 20 OF FACILITIES THAT WE OPERATE AS WELL. OUR EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS TO SOLIDIFY CONCRETE HERE, THOSE ARE OBVIOUSLY THERE. THE NEXT THING I'LL TALK ABOUT IS HER DISPOSABLE SITE LOCATIONS.

WHILE WE ENDED UP DOING IS PARTNERING WITH OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES FOR DISPOSAL SOLID WASTE.

BESIDES KEEPING IT RIGHT HERE LOCALLY TO THE SOUTH AND - - CLASS III LANDFILL LOCATED IN JACKSONVILLE.

ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY, IT'S A LINE LANDFILL. FOR EXAMPLE, ANYTIME THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE ANY OVERAGES WITH BULK MATERIALS LIKE A HURRICANE OR ANY KIND OF STORM COMES THROUGH AND YOU HAVE AN ABUNDANCE OF BULK MATERIAL, IT WAS DESCRIBED AS - - FACILITY TO THE NORTH OF US WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE MANY OF US OVERAGES. WE SEE THAT AS BEING A POTENTIAL ASSET OF THE COUNTY HAS WE GO THROUGH THE NEXT 10 YEARS OR SO. THE YARD TRASH, WE ARE ABLE TO TAKE THAT AS WELL. ALL THE OPERATIONS WOULD BE FAC.

WE HAVE SOME CARPETED THROUGH CNW.

THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND SINCE 2008.

WE CURRENTLY UTILIZE THEM FOR HAULING MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE.

THEY THINK ABOUT 600 HUNDRED MATERIALS PER DAY TO OUR OCALA TRANSFER STATION. WE WILL PROVIDE SERVICES TO CLAY COUNTY. TALKING ABOUT THE PRICING WE HAVE SUBMITTED, FOR THE BASE COST ONE, NUMBER ONE AND TWO, WE ARE ACTUALLY LOW ON OUR PROPOSAL.

ON THE UNIT COST, NUMBER 201 AND FOUR, FIVE AND SIX, THE C AND D - - HOLLY AND DISPOSAL. WE WERE THE LOWEST COST PROPOSAL FOR A LINE ITEM WHICH EQUATES TO A $400,000 PER YEAR ANNUAL SAVINGS OF THE COUNTY. OVER THE INITIAL TERM OF THIS AGREEMENT, OUR PROPOSED PRICING WOULD SAVE THE COUNTY PROXIMALLY $4 MILLION OVER THE INITIAL TERM.

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HOWEVER, WE WERE A LITTLE BIT OFF ON THAT.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY'RE WILLING TO FIGURE IT OUT ON WHERE WE NEED TO BE WITH YOU AND POTENTIALLY TRY AND DO SOMETHING IN THAT REGARD. SO, SECTION 2.6 OF THE RFP, THERE IS A PROVISION THE DOCUMENTS THAT ESSENTIALLY SAYS THAT THE COUNTY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO AWARD TO MULTIPLE BIDDERS. WE BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE COUNTY. AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE AGAIN.

HAVING TWO CONGRESS AND NOT A BAD THING EITHER.

AS IF ONE COMPANY HAS SOME EQUIPMENT FAILURE OR ANYTHING WITH STAFFING, YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMPANY THAT MAY BE ABLE TO HELP ON THAT REGARDS. WE FULLY BELIEVE THAT HAVING TWO CONTRACTORS ON SITE IS AN ADVANTAGE OF THE COUNTY.

SO IN CLOSING, I REQUEST WOULD BE FOR THE COUNTY TO CONSIDER AWARDING SEPARATE CONTRACTS TO THE LOWEST COST PRICE PROPOSALS FOR EACH OF THE THREE PROPOSAL FACILITIES.

AGAIN, I WANTED TO REITERATE THAT WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY AFFORDED TO YOU THIS AFTERNOON AND GIVE US OUR PRESENTATION. WE THINK THAT HAVING MULTIPLE CONTRACTORS NOT ONLY FROM A PHYSICAL, FINANCIAL STANDPOINT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS OVER THE INITIAL TERM, BUT TO HAVE ADDITIONAL RESOURCE IN THE COUNTY ALONG WITH A LINE CLASS FACILITY FOR THE MATERIAL THAT MAY COME THROUGH WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE. WITH THAT, WE HOPE WE CAN SOLIDIFY OUR PUBLIC, PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AND WE WILL BE

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> QUESTIONS FOR MR. MCCALL?

COMMISSIONER BURKE?>> COMMISSIONER: WHY WOULD IT BE

ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE COUNTY TO HAVE MULTIPLE PROVIDERS?>> THE TWO POINTS THAT STAND OUT AS THE FIRST WOULD BE THE SAVINGS OF HAVING THE $4 MILLION OVER THE INITIAL TERM OF THE CONTRACT. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY TAXPAYERS IN THAT INITIAL FORMULA DOLLARS OF SAVINGS IS OBVIOUSLY AN ADVANTAGE.

THE SECOND IS AGAIN RESOURCES. I BELIEVE HAVING MULTIPLE RESOURCES IN THE TIME THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH, WE WENT TO THE COVID PANDEMIC THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT OUR COMPANY BECAUSE OF WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE IN OUR MANAGEMENT TEAM AND THE FOLKS THAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS ALL OF OUR KNOWLEDGE OF THIS INDUSTRY, WE DID NOT SUSPEND ANY SERVICES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE TIME THAT WE TO GO TO THAT PANDEMIC ISSUE. SOME ROUTES MAY HAVE BEEN DELAYED. HAVING MULTIPLE RESOURCES IN

THIS DAY AND AGE IS ESSENTIAL. >> WHAT ELSE DO YOU SERVICE IN

OUR REGION? >> COLLECTION WISE, WE SERVICE THE ALACHUA COUNTY CONTRACT AND IMMUTABLE SOLID WASTE.

THE CITY OF GAINESVILLE THE SERVICE AS WELL AND OUR OCALA TRANSFER STATION THAT WE OPERATE.

>> OTHER QUESTIONS?>> I HAVE ONE.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU THIS BUT YOU POINTED OUT FOR LINE ITEM 7, THAT GFL IS COMING IN CONSIDERABLY HIGHER.

>> WE WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK WITH STAFF TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT REGARD BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE MISSED

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NOT MORE COMPETITIVE. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA, ANY

QUESTIONS? >> NO QUESTIONS BUT A BIT OF A COMMENT, MELTED ANTICIPATED YOU'RE LOOKING TO SPLIT THESE.

ODYSSEY FROM A DOLLAR STANDPOINT THERE IS REASON TO LOOK AT THAT BUT I ALSO THOUGHT MELTED IT, LINE ITEM 7 WAS PUT IN AT THE LEVEL IT WAS TO MAKE UP FOR BEING A LITTLE LOWER THAN YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE OTHER FOUR, FIVE AND SIX.

NOT SURE WHICH WAY THAT WENT, BUT THAT IS THE WAY I LOOKED AT IT.SACRIFICE THE YARD WASTE FROM BEING ABLE TO DROP THE OTHER A LITTLE BIT. THAT IS HOW LOOK TO ME.

>> A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU LOOK AT FOR EXAMPLE, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDUAL CONTRACT PER SE, IF YOU HAVE AN EXCESSIVE AGREEMENT, SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL SUBSIDIZED THAT RESIDENT A PIECE LITTLE BIT BUT WITH THE SENTIMENTAL OPERATIONS CONTRACTS, WE LOOK AT EACH INDIVIDUAL ON A BUSINESS AND WE BASICALLY LOOK AT THAT BUSINESS MODEL AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO SUBSIDIZING. THAT WAS SOMETHING UNFORTUNATELY WE WERE NOT CLEAR ON AND IT ENDED UP BEING WHAT

IT WAS. >> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION, HE MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES THE ADVANTAGE OF THE OTIS LANDFILL IS BEING ALIGNED.

EDUCATE ME, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?

>> THAT'S A CMD CLASS III LANDFILL SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT MEANS, WE HAVE LONG-TERM CAPACITY AT THE FACILITY.

BEGIN TAKING ITEMS AND CAN'T ACCEPT MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE.

WE CAN ACCEPT ITEM MATERIALS LIKE FURNITURE, COUCHES, ANYTHING WITH OUTSIDE TECH MATERIALS.

IT'S A BIG DEAL, THAT SOMETHING HEAVILY REGULATED AND IS A LONG-TERM INVESTMENT FOR US. SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL COULD BE AN ASSET FOR THE COUNTY AND THERE COULD BE COST SAVINGS ASSOCIATED BECAUSE WE ARE ONLY AN HOUR AWAY .

>> WHERE ARE YOU OBLIGATED AGAIN?

>> ARE LANDFILL IS OTIS BILL LANDFILL.>> WE HAVE MULTIPLE FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

OUR CORPORATE OFFICE IS IN RALEIGH NORTH CAROLINA AND WE HAVE FACILITIES THROUGH GEORGIA AND THE STATE OF FULTON AND

ALABAMA AS WELL. >> MY QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU MAY NOT HAVE THIS INFORMATION BUT I ACTUALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF POTENTIALLY HAVING - - WE ENDED UP BEARING THE BRUNT OF GETTING THE PHONE CALLS SO WORK WAS NOT ABOUT THE DISPOSAL ITE THE COLLECTION SITE. A LOT OF OUR CITIZENS WERE REALLY ANGRY IS THE BEST WAY TO PUT IT IN THE CALL THOSE NAMES, SAID SHAME ON YOU AND ALL THESE KINDS OF THINGS BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT BEING SERVED THE WAY THEY THOUGHT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN SERVED. THIS COUNTRY HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 2009 AND HAD EXTENSIONS ON IT POLICE AS FAR AS MARKET THE TWINS GO, I HEARD A LOT ABOUT - - GET IT DONE.

>> IS ABOUT TAXPAYER DOLLARS, YOUR CMD PRICE IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS OVER THE LIFE THE CONTRACT BUT THERE ARE SOME SAFETY CONCERNS ABOUT THE WAY OUR FACILITIES ARE DESIGNED AND OPERATED WITH TWO PACKAGES IN THE PUBLICCOMING IN THEIR .

I WAS WONDERING IF YOU HAVE ANY INPUT TO GIVE TO THAT TOO.

>> SURE, AT SMALL FIELD HE WAS A GENERAL MANAGER AND HIS FAMILY WERE THAT SITE. I WANT TO BRING THEM UP AND

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>> GOOD EVENING, (STATES NAME AND ADDRESS).

I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S TIME. WE HAVE ONE SIDE COMING IN AND THEN OUT AND EVERY OTHER SIDE, SAME OPERATION.

DISTINCT AREAS, WE HAVE A COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT AND THE TRUCKS COMING IN DIRECTLY TO THE DESIGNATED AREA AND SAME THING. WE DON'T SEE ADDING ANY ADDITIONAL TRUCKS PULLING OUT OF THERE.

WE DON'T SEE ANY ADDITIONAL HEAVY EQUIPMENT BEING ON SITE.

WE STILL ANTICIPATE PUTTING ONE PRIMARY LOADER OVER THERE AND HAVING A BACKUP ON SITE. MAYBE A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE DECIMATED AREAS THAT MIGHT ADD AN EXTRA SPARE THING WILL BE MOVING AROUND.

WE WILL WORK, SAFETY IS NUMBER ONE FOR US AND WASTE MANAGEMENT. WE ARE BOTH VERY COGNIZANT OF THE PEOPLE COMING IN AND THEIR OPERATIONS.

WE WOULD WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER, NOT ONLY WITH THE COUNTY BUT WITH MANAGEMENT TO FIND OUT THE OPERATIONS AND FLOW THE PEOPLE AND NOW THE SYSTEMS ARE EMPLOYEES AND THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER AND AVOID THESE

CONCERNS. >> CHAIR: MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE STAFF IS EDUCATED ME, I WILL GO WITH THIS.

STAFF SAID THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN THE TEMPORARY TRAILER IS A WALKING FLOOR TRAILER AND THAT A CURRENT TEMPERATURE USING A TEMPER TRAILER AND USE A WALKING TRAILER.

IT TAKES LONGER TO UNLOAD? >> THEY ARE BOTH VIABLE OPTIONS. A WALKING FLOOR TRAILER, YOU LOADED UP CHEMICALS OUT OF THE DISPOSAL FACILITY AND HAS A FOUR THAT VIBRATE AND PUSH THE MATERIAL OUT.

THOSE ARE THE WAY TO GET THE MATERIAL OUT.

WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE LOOKING AT THE PROPOSAL IS THE ADVANTAGE OF THE WALKING FOREVERSEPTEMBER .

HOW DO YOU GET THE GARBAGE OUT OF THE TRUCKS? THAT IS THE CHALLENGE. THERE'S A LOT OF SET UP TO GET IT RIGHT AND MAINTAINTHE EQUIPMENT .

THE WALK-IN FLOORS WHEN THEY BREAK DOWN IN MY FACILITY, WE ARE ABLE TO STILL USE ADDITIONAL HEAVY COMMIT ON SITE TO GET THE MATERIAL OUT. WE SO THAT AS AN ADVANTAGE IN TERMS OF DEPENDABILITYAND IT ALL COMES OUT OPERATORS, HORNS TAKE TO GET TO YOUR SITE? HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO SET UP, HOW ONE IS A PUSH OUT WHICH IS HOW QUICKLY THE GUY GET OUT OF HIS CAB, HOOK UP TO THE TIPPER, CONTROL THAT AND GET IT OUT? IT COMES OUT OF THE OPERATORS.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE WILL HAVE VENDORS A GREAT MENTOR, GIVEN THIS FOR A LONG TIME. THERE IS ALL BRAND-NEW COMMIT WE WOULD BE USING WITH TRUCKS AND HEAVY EQUIPMENT AT THE

SITE. >> THANK YOU FOR I'LL HAVE ANY

OTHER QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. >> I HAD A SIMILAR BRIEFING AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS WHETHER IT WAS EFFICIENT TO THE WALKING FLOOR. COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT,

PLEASE? >> I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE COULD BE A TIME, IT WILL COME TO A LOT OF FACTORS.

ON ANOTHER WAS THAT DRASTIC, IS NOT A CONCERN OR WILL IMPACT THE SERVICES TO THE COUNTY. OUR BID WAS SET UP IN OUR PROPOSAL SET UP TO ACCOMMODATE GETTING THE VOLUME OF GARBAGE WASTE OUT OF THE TRANSPORTATION AND TO THE DISPOSAL FACILITIES.

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DURING THE TONSIL MOVED OUT. IF TAKE A LITTLE LONGER OR LESS IT WILL IMPACT THE SERVICE PROVIDERS OF THE COUNTY.

>> ONE MORE QUESTION OUT OF THE CHAIR.

CONTEXT FOR MY QUESTION, I WAS INFORMED THAT THIS INJURY TENDS TO BE A LITTLE CONTENTIOUS AND THE CONCERN THAT CAME UP IN MY BRIEFING WAS BEARING THE COST OF MAINTENANCE TO THE AREAS THAT WE WILL BE USED. THE LAND THAT WAS IS NEEDED FOR THIS WILL BE BIFURCATED.OU WILL BE ON ONE SIDE, - - ON THE OTHER BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE'S A VERY REAL POSSIBILITY THE MACHINERY WILL ACTUALLY BE IN A SHARED SPACE.

THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT HOW WE CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT TO PRORATE THE COST OF MAINTENANCE.

>> GREAT QUESTION BY THE WAY. IT WAS BASED ON A COST PER TON BASIS.WE PACKED ALL INTO OUR PRICINGINITIALLY .

THERE'S NOT ANY ADDITIONAL COST THE CONCERNING ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IS STRICTLY COSPER TIME.

THAT CORRELATES BACK TO THE WALKING FLOOR AND TAKING TRAILERS. IT'S NOT A WHOLE PLUS DISPOSAL, THE COST FOR THE COUNTY THE COST PER TON.

>> THANK YOU. >> SINCE WERE TALKING NUTS AND BOLTS HERE, GIVE ME A GOOD TIPPER ANYTIME.

[LAUGHTER]. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS OR SOMETHING YOU'LL BE DOING DIFFERENT TO INCREASE THE EFFICIENCY OF THE OPERATIONS? I AM SPECIFICALLY LOOKING FOR HOW DO YOU HANDLE BESIDE YOUR TRUCK GOING IN, WE WILL HAVE PICKUP TRUCKS AND PEOPLE WITH SUVS DROPPING STUFF OFF,THOSE KIND OF THINGS , HOW DO YOU

HANDLE THAT? >> WE LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF THINGS. GOING BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SET OF OF THE REDUNDANCY OF THE EQUIPMENT, BOTH SIDES WILL BENEFIT FROM HAVING AN ADDITIONAL PIECE OF EQUIPMENT UNLESS WASTE MANAGEMENT LET ME JUMP IN SERVICE TO THE SIDE.

WE WILL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL PIECE OF EQUIPMENT SO ONE THAT HELPS WITH DOWNTIME OF EQUIPMENT THAT WILL KEEP THE NORMAL OPERATION MORE EFFICIENT VERSUS GOD FORBID YOU TWO PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, YOURLOADER AND +1 .

YOU'RE SCRAMBLING TO GET YOUR OTHER SPEAR OUT THERE.

YOU WORK OUT TRANSPORTATION HERE, AS A CONSULTANT, I WAS BROUGHT IN THE WASTE MANAGEMENT AND THE COUNTY TO DO ENVIRONMENTAL AND SAFETY INSPECTIONS ON THE TRANSFER STATIONS. EVEN STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS OF CERTAIN THINGS. VERY FAMILIAR.

SIGNAGE, LANE, DEMARCATION, DEVICES WE LOOK INTERNALLY.

OBVIOUSLY EVERY OPERATOR WE HAVE OUT THERE WOULD BE A TRAINED SPOTTER AND OR TRANSPORTATION OPERATOR.

JUST DOING TRAINING AND COMMUNICATION, WORKING WITH THE COUNTY. YOUR FOLKS ARE ON THE GROUND THERE AND WILL SEE THINGS FROM AN OPERATIONS STANDPOINT ONLY WITH THE CURRENT LENDER DOES NOT SEE EVERY DAY THIS IS COMMUNICATION I THINK. THIS MAY CONTRIBUTE TO PEOPLE

IN THE SAFELY. >> EVENTUALLY, YOU HAVE ONE OPERATOR? THAT PERSON IN ATTENDANCE?

>> WE HAVE TWO FOLKS DEDICATED TO THE AREA AT MINIMUM.

IN ADDITION SUPERVISORS, MYSELF GOING OUT THERE.

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COMMUNICATING WITH THE CUSTOMERS COMING IN AND WORKING

WITH - -. APPRECIATE IT.>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME.

>> FOR THE RECORD, CRAIG HUNTINGTON? (NAME). WE HAVE OPERATIONS HERE IN CLAY COUNTY. I DO WANT TO DRAW A DISTINCTION. FIRST LET ME SAY THIS, I DECAPITATED THANK THIS BOARD, THEN COUNTY STAFF AND THE RESIDENTS OF CLAY COUNTY FOR ALLOWING US TO PROVIDE THIS VERY CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES.

TODAY WE TALKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE SOLID WASTE TRANSFER STATIONS OPERATION TRANSPORT AND DISPOSAL.

I WAS SAY THAT EXPERIENCE IS INVALUABLE.

PROJECT APPROACHING METHODOLOGY, THIS SPEAKS TO SOME OF THE MORE SUBCONTRACTORS.

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THERE'S EQUIPMENT INSIDE THE TRANSPORTATIONS, TWO FRONT LOADERS. YOU HAVE 2 YARD SPOTTERS IN EACH OF THE TRANSPORTATIONS THAT SETTLE TRAILERS IN AND OUT AND HAVE SPARES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.OUR DYSPNEA DISPOSAL SITES ROCHESTER ISLAND LANDFILL IN GEORGIA, CHARLESTON COUNTY. OUR - - INTO BOTH COUNTY WILL HOST THE DESTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION DEBRIS GARBAGE MATERIAL. I'M NOT THE EXPERT OF THE RFP DOCUMENTS DID SUGGEST THAT IS NEEDED ABILITY SITES SHOULD HAVE TIPPERS. TIPPING TRAILERS ARE LIGHTER AND CAN HANDLE MORE MATERIAL AND YOU CAN DUMP THEM QUICKER.

IT SPEAKS TO A MORE COST-EFFECTIVE MODEL THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PRESENT TO THE COUNTY.

QUALIFICATIONS, JUST FOR THIS BOOK ABOUT, ECOLOGY EXPERIENCE, PROVIDING LOADING, HAULING IN THE SOUTHEAST, 27 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. FIVE OF THOSE ARE TRANSPORTATION ONLY, SO IT IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE THAT THEY HAVE IN THE SOUTHEAST.

THE CURRENT SUBCONTRACTOR FOR WASTE MANAGEMENT AT CLAY COUNTY TRANSPORTATION. SPENCER FARMS WERE MENTIONED INTO THE SHREDDING OF THE YARD DEBRIS, IT SHREDDED YOU THINK IS DISPOSED OF THEY HAD 13 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE THAT SUBCONTRACT THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE LANDFILL .

PROPOSED COSTS. I DO NOT NECESSARILY HAVE THE DETAIL THAT SKIP HAD. WE WERE NOT ON THE PROPOSAL FROM THE OTHER COMPANY. WE WERE TOLD HER OVERALL COST PROPOSAL WAS 1 TO 1.5% LOWER THAN GFL.

THE BASE BID WE WERE LOWEST OVERALL.

IT'S A 10 YEAR CONTRACT WHICH WOULD EQUATE TO $2.5 MILLION IN SAVINGS OVER THE LIFE THAT 10 YEARS.THE RFP ALSO GIVES THE ABILITY TO SUBMIT AN ALTERNATE PRICE PROPOSAL WHICH IS BASED ON A COST-PLUS MODEL. THE LOADING PIECE IN THE TRANSPORTATION. I WILL THAT WE SEPARATE THE DETAILS ON THAT. BACK TO THE COUNTY ANYWHERE BETWEEN 30 AND $40 MILLION OVER THE 10 YEAR CONTRACT.

THAT IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. LOCAL VENDOR PREFERENCE, WE QUALIFY FOR THAT BASED - - CLAY COUNTY.

AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP.

WE ARE BUSY HIRE PEOPLE IN CLAY COUNTY AND SPEND MONEY WITH LOCAL VENDORS, WE ARE INVOLVED IN COMMUNITY EVENTS AT THE CHAMBER IT'S FITTING THAT HE WILL HONOR THAT.E PARTICIPATE IN THE FAIR FOR THE PAST 17 YEARS.

REPORTEDLY IN THE LIVE AUCTION WILL BE BID HONESTY OR A PIG USUALLY FOR A KID IS NOT A LOT OF INTEREST IN THEIR ANIMAL.

WE ARE VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

REFERENCES, THE RFP REQUIRED AREA FOR REFERENCES.

IT IS VERY SIMILAR SERVICES. UWM HAS BEEN MANAGING A

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THIS EXTENSION GAVE US THE SECURITY OF KNOWING OUR WE SHOULD BE HANDLED IN AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND WAY.

WE APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP TO PROVIDE THESE CRITICAL SERVICES. I WILL FINISH WITH THIS BEFORE WE GET INTO QUESTIONS. WASTE MANAGEMENT REPRESENTS A LONG-TERM PROCESSSERVICE PROVIDER , HIGHEST RANKED BIDDER AND LOWEST COST OPTION. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU GREG. QUESTIONS?

>> CAN WE GET A RUNDOWN OF THE ULTIMATE PRICE PROPOSAL? YOU ARE CLAIMING IT WOULD SAVE US UP TO $40 MILLION.

>> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS LISA MCKNIGHT.

I'M THE AREA DIRECTOR FOR WASTE MANAGEMENT.

WASTE MANAGEMENT PROVIDED AN ALTERNATE PROPOSAL SIMILAR TO SUWANNEE COUNTY AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY WHERE WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT PREVIOUSLY IN ONE OF THE OTHER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT BEING ABLE TO PREDICT THE FUTURE AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS DOES.

INSTEAD OF US PUTTING IN A PRICE OR TRANSPORTATION, WE ARE GOING TO SHARE OUR TRANSPORTATION COST WITH YOU AND ADMINISTRATIVE TURN. PRETTY SIMPLE.

>> HOW CAN THE SAME AS $40 MILLION?

>> IN OUR BASE PROPOSAL PRICE, WE ARE TO PROVIDE WITH THE TRANSPORTATION WOULD BE AND WHAT THAT COST WAS.

THIS WAY WE KNOW IT WOULD BE LESS EXPENSIVE BY GOING THROUGH THE COST-PLUS MODEL. THE THREE SO YOUR TOTAL COST PER YEAR IS $16.2 MILLION? YOU ARE SAYING COST-PLUS MODEL IS $50 MILLION AND THEREFORE IT'S A 1.2 NO SAVINGS OVER THE COST? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE GETTING

$14 MILLION? >> I DO NOT HAVE THE PRICE UP WITH ME FOR THE TOTAL SAVINGS WE HAVE BETWEEN THE TWO PROPOSALS IS $40 MILLION FOR THE 10 YEAR CONTRACT.

I'M SORRY, I DO NOT WANT TO GO THROUGH THE DETAILS, ENTITLED THE METHODOLOGY SO I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.WE WORK WITH CEI AS GREG UPDATED AND THE FOCUS WOULD BE EVERY YEAR, WE WILL EXPOSE OUR TRANSPORTATION COST NUMBERS TO YOU AND ONLY APPLY A 15% ADMINISTRATOR CHARGE ON TOP OF THAT VERSUS PROVIDED NATIONAL STATION.

>> CHAIR: MY MATH IS $11.5 MILLION SAVINGS OVER THE TWO YEARS, SWIM STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND THE 40 MILLION.

>> AGAIN, WE WERE NOT SHOWN THE PRICING.

>> I'M DOING THE MATH BETWEEN YOUR BID AND YOUR COST-PLUS.

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>> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS I HEARD ABOUT ALIGNED - - AND WANTED TO HEAR MORE ABOUT YOUR FACILITY IN REGARDS TO THAT.

LIKE LIKE GREG SAID MY NAME IS - -, I AM THE NORTH FLORIDA OVER TWO MAJOR LANDFILLS AND OLD KINGS ROAD.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE TRANSPORTATIONS CLAY COUNTY OR ST. JOHNS COUNTY THE EXPERIENCE I HAVE, IN JUNE I WOULD HAVE 46 YEARS WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT BACK TO YOUR QUESTION FOR MY BENEFIT THE ENVIRONMENT OUTSID .

AS FAR AS THE LANDFILL - - THAT IS THE CHANGE CAME UP AND DIRECTED US THOSE ALL LANDFILLS MOVING FORWARD WILL HAVE - - JUST ON OUR LANDFILL THERE IN FACT MUCH OF CHARLES I LANDFILL IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA. ANYWAY, WE ARE A LANDFILL THE OTHER LANDFILLS THAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED, PART F THE LANDFILL DON'T HAVE - - THE ARE GRANDFATHERED IN.

IT WOULD NOT COME IN THE GARBAGE LANDFILL AND RECENTLY CLASS III WHICH FLORIDA HAS. BACK TO BACK ON OVER TO OLD KINGS ROAD, WE DO HAVE THE OTHER CLIENTS.

GOING FORWARD, WILL BE GOING TO A NEW ONE AND A NEW LOCATION, WE HAVE ANOTHER LANDFILL TOO, JONES ROAD WHICH IS DORMANT RIGHT NOW. AND WE GO THERE, WE WILL BE PUTTING THE PROCESS COMPLIANCE THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH NOW AS FAR AS ANY ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, THERE ARE NO ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WE ARE MODEL LANDFILL.

THE STATE DEP WILL BRING NEW INSPECTORS OUT TO LOOK AT OUR LANDFILL TO SHOW THEM HOW LANDFILL IS SUPPOSED TO OPERATE

HELP ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. >> YES YOU DID, THANK YOU FOR.

>> I HAVE A QUESTIO FOR ECOLOGY, DO WE HAVE A REP HERE AND CINDY PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION TO THE LANDFILL

FROM THE TRANSPORTATION. >> I DO SPEND 90% OF MY DAYS HERE IN CLAY COUNTY TO THE TRANSPORTATION.

I VISITED TWO OR THREE TIMES A DAY.

CLAY COUNTY HAVE TO BE 10 MINUTES FROM MY HOUSE SO CELLA TO PAY. QUITE OFTEN.

>> YOU EMPLOY A LOT OF CDL DRIVERS AND WE GET A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM WITH THE COLLECTION SIDE YET I DON'T RECALL ANY PROBLEM WITH THE TRANSFER PART TELL ME WHAT YOUR SECRET SAUCE WAS OR HOW YOU MIGRATED THAT.

>> THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN DRIVERS.

MY TRUCKS ARE CLASS VIII TRUCKS OF THE TRUCK CLASS B TRUCKS.

THERE'S A DIFFERENT MINDSET, WE DID FEEL THE IMPACT OF COVID.

YOUR DAYS FOR EVERYONE BUT SHORT.WHEN WE FEEL IT, IS NOT

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CLASS B DRIVERS, THEY JUST FELT MORE THAN THE CLASS A DRIVERS.

I AM VERY HAPPY TO SAY THAT DURING THE ENTIRE TIME COVID WAS GOING ON, WE NEVER HAD A DAY WERE WE HAD TO SHUT THE STATION DOWN OR GET A NOTICE OF VIOLATION.

WE WERE ABLE TO CONTINUE SERVICES AND STILL DO TO THIS DAY. I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT I THINK ALL OF BERKELEY COUNTY EMPLOYEES LIVE IN CLAY COUNTY.

THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN PROUD OF.

>> I WOULD IMAGINE SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT THAT, OUR CONTINGENCY PLANS, WE ALWAYS DRIVE THE CONTINGENCY PLANS OF EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON. WE BROUGHT AND OTHER TRUCKING COMPANIES WHICH WE HAVE A BROKER THAT DEALS WITH US.

WHEN WE GET INTO A SITUATION SOMETHING THAT DRIVERS DON'T SHOW UP FOR BEING SICK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE CAN PULL THE DRIVERS IN THROUGH OUR BROKER TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE CARE OF CLAY COUNTY. AT THE REASON DURING THE PANDEMIC, WE WENT AHEAD AND MADE SURE EVERYONE WAS TAKING CARE OF AS FAR AS THEIR NEEDS WE HAVE A LOT OF PLANS ON DOING

THAT. >> ARE CLASS B DRIVERS NOT ABLE

TO DO CLASS TODAY? >> NO.

I'VE SEEN THE DRIVERS - - CLASS A TRUCK.

YOU HAVE TO GO TAKE A DRIVING TEST AND THE WRITTEN TEST TO

BECOME A CLASS A DRIVER. >> OTHER QUESTIONS?

COMMISSIONER COMPERE? >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR GREG.

IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE BUT I FEEL I NEED TO ASK IT.

I WAS BROUGHT PROPOSAL BACK IN I THINK JANUARY BEFORE WE PUT OUT THE RFP, PROPOSAL FROM YOU ALL IN YOUR CONTRACT AND YOU CAME BACK WITH THE PROPOSAL. IT WAS DIFFERENT BUT WE HAD AND I WAS ASKED HOW I FELT ABOUT PBRINGING THAT TOTHE BOARD .

I ASSUME THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS WERE PROTESTANT PROPOSAL. MY RESPONSE WAS THAT I AM LUKEWARM.THE PUBLIC WANT TO SEE US WITHOUT THE BID.

THERE WAS THAT WHOLE THIS MIGHT BE THE BEST THAT YOU GET THIS PRICE WILL END COULD CHANGE I SAID I'LL TAKE MY CHANCES, THAT WAS WHERE MY POSITION WAS OBVIOUSLY FROM AT LEAST TWO OTHER COMMISSIONERS FELT SIMILAR IN SOME WAY BECAUSE I COME TO US AND WE PUT IT OUT PROPOSAL THEN, WHEN YOUR BIDS CAME BACK, THIS WAS $1.5 MILLION PER YEAR OR LESS THAT WAS SHOWN TO US IN JANUARY. SO, MY DISCOMFORT TAXPAYERS IN CLAY COUNTY WITH THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GIVING THEM THE BEST SERVICE FOR THE BEST RATES FOR I GUESS I WANTED TO HAVE SOME DIALOGUE ABOUT HOW THE RATES COULD SHIFT THAT MUC

. >> WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO, YES, BUT WITH THE RECENT ST. JOHNS COUNTY, WE MOVE THEM TO A COST-PLUS MODEL IS VERY TRANSPARENT.

WE ARE ABLE TO THE VENDOR INVOICES FOR OUR SUBCONTRACTORS AND IF YOU ADD 15% ON TOP OF THAT.

IN ORDER FOR THEM TO HAVE BUDGETARY STABILITY, WHAT WE DID GOING TO THAT FIRST YEAR OF THE CONTRACT, WE AVERAGE THOSE

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WE SET UP AS A COST FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR OF THE BUDGET FOR THAT. OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY GO BACK TO THE END OF LAST YEAR WE WERE PROPOSING TO THEM A VERY SIMILAR MODEL THE PROPOSED ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO ACHIEVE AN EXTENSION I WAS SLEEPING WITH THE BASE.

HERE IS ASKING FOR ALL IN NUMBER, YOU CAN FACTOR IN THE CPI INCREASE YEAR-OVER-YEAR WHERE THE COST-PLUS MODEL IS DIFFERENT OUT OF THE LOOK AT EXACTLY WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNTY AT THAT POINT IN TIME IN TERMS OF THE COST AND HOW IT COMPARED TO WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR COST-PLUS MODEL TODAY, BUT THAT HAPPENS IN BIDS FERNANDINA BEACH, WE OFFER THEM AN EXTENSION. WE CAME BACK WITH A HIGHER RATE THEREST OF THE LOW BIDDER . AT TIMES BECAUSE OF THE PARTNERSHIP, THERE MAY BE SOME GIVE-AND-TAKE IN AN EXTENSION PROCESS COMPARED TO IF WE OUGHT TO GO TO THE RFP PROCESS TAKE

ON THE EXPOSURE. >> SPEAKER: IN OUR INITIAL PROPOSAL TO CLAY COUNTY, WE REALIZE THE INITIAL PROPOSAL WE DO WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY AS WELL AND THAT WAS 20% VERSUS 50% ULTIMATELY, WE FINALIZE NEGOTIATION WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY THAT IS WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO CLAY COUNTY TOO.

>> SO WITH THE PAST WAS 50%? >> CORRECTIONAL WE ORIGINALLY STARTED AT - - THEY ALREADY PAST IT.

>> TO PASS IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND I AM FRIENDS WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. THEN I WAS PRESENTED WITH - - I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS 15 OR 20 AT THE TIME.

>> IT'S RARE THAT THINGS ARE APPLES TO APPLES BECAUSE ST.

JOHNS COUNTY HAS - - THA VOLUME COULD CREATE THE COST STRUCTURE 30 A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE IN CLAY COUNTY. I ALSO COMFORTABLE SPEAKING IN PUBLIC ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF THOSE MEETINGS HAPPENED A WHILE

BACK. >> I WAS CURIOUS IN THE $1.5 MILLION PER YEAR IS A LOT TO HAVE A CHANGE BETWEEN JANUARY AND WHEN THOSE WENT OUT FOR BID IN FEBRUARY.

>> SOME OF THE BIDS RP SPECIFICATIONS.

>> MY NEXT QUESTION IS BETWEEN YOUR TWO PROPOSALS, BETWEEN THE REGULAR ONE AND COST REQUESTS, DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE?

>> WILLING TO MORE TOWARDS THE COST-PLUS MODEL.

WE ACHIEVED A SIMILAR CONTRACT WITH - - COUNTY AND ST. JOHNS

COUNTY. >> THE COST-PLUS IS NOT ALLOW FOR FUEL ADJUSTMENT, CORRECT? I KNOW YOUR ORIGINAL RATES HAD AN ANNUAL CPI AND FUEL ADJUSTMENTIN THEM .

BUT ON THE COST-PLUS, ADJUSTED CPI ADJUSTMENT AND LOADING AND

HAULING RATE AT COST +15%. >> RIGHT, THERE'S PROBABLY AT THE FUEL ADJUSTMENT FOR THE CP .

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>> THE FUEL COMPONENT FOR TRANSPORTATION AND PROCESSING FOR THE EQUIPMENT THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE COST WHICH

WOULD BE HAVING THE 15% MARKUP. >> THE $11 MILLION SAVINGS COULD BE ZERO? IF FUEL PRICES DRIVES, THAT COULD - - BLOCK MORE THAN $50 MILLION PER YEAR.

>> WHEN THEY GO DOWN, THE COUNTY WOULD GET THE BENEFIT OF

THEM AS WELL. >> FRIENDS ARE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE FUEL CALCULATIONS, THEY ARE ALMOST HALF OF WHAT THEY WERE LAST YEAR.

WE DO HAVE FUEL ADJUSTMENTS WHETHER THEY ARE COLLECTION,

TRANSPORTATION OR DISPOSAL. >> WE HAVE NO GUARANTEE OF THE

SAVINGS, CORRECT? >> THAT'S WHAT I THINK I AM

READING.>> IN TERMS OF THE COST, BUT IF YOU HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY, THEY ARE EXPERIENCING A SAVINGS AND APPRECIATE THE MODEL THAT WE HAVE EMPLOYED

WITH THEM. >> THAT SOUNDS WONDERFUL, BUT WE CAN'T GIVE THE GUARANTEE TOWARD PEOPLE .

I AM WORRIED ABOUT THAT. >> THE GENERIC CONTRACT IS A FUEL ADJUSTMENT AND INFLATION IN IT AS WELL.

WE DO KNOW THAT IS GOING TO BE ON THE GENERIC CONTRACT.

THE BASE CONTRACT. >> THERE BRINGING UP HIS COST-PLUS THING IS A DIFFERENT APPROACH.

>> BUT IS THE COST THE VENDOR CHARGES WHICH WILL INCLUDE THE COST OF THE FUEL, COMPLETION COSTS.

EITHER WAY WE WILL PAY FOR IT. >> THAT IS TAKING INTO ACCOUNT WE PERCEIVED GFL NUMBERS TO BE BASED ON WHAT WAS SAID BY THE

EVALUATION COMMITTEE. >> THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, WE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR TWOBIDS . WE TALKED ABOUT WASTE MANAGEMENT, YOUR REGULAR PERSONAL BID WAS $16.2 MILLION PER YEAR. IN YOUR COST-PLUS IS LISTED AT 15 POINT MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR.

I THOUGHT THAT THIS ANSWER WAS THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE FUEL ADJUSTMENT NOT BEING IN ONEAND BEING IN THE OTHER .

>> WITH THE COMPARISON TO THE BASE AN ALTERNATE BID AND PUT IN THE SAVINGS TO COME UP WITH WHAT WE BELIEVE OUR SAVINGS TO YOU WOULD BE IF WE WENT WITH THE COST-PLUS MODEL.

YOU WILL HAVE AN INITIAL LOWER NUMBER IN THE FIRST YEAR OF

YOUR CONTRACT. >> THAT IS NOT WHAT I'M ASKING.

TAKE GFL OUT OF BEDFORD AND ASKING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TRADITIONAL BASEMENT AND COST-PLUS IT'S A ONE POINT YOU MAY KNOW THE DIFFERENCE OVER THE LIFE OF THE CONTRACT, IT'S 11 NO DIFFERENCE. WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND COMMISSIONER BURKEWAS ASKING IS WHAT IS THE

DIFFERENCE ?>> WE TO MAKE EDUCATED GUESSES ON WHAT THE

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WE ARE PASSING ALONG THE SAVINGS WITH THE VALUE IN PASSING THAT ARE INTO THE CONTRACT AND CHARGING THE ADMINISTRATION FEE TO ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM.

WE ARE TAKING OUR BUYING POWER ANDPUTTING IN THE CONTRACT .

FOR EXAMPLE, IN CLAY COUNTY WENT OUT TO GET A TRANSPORTATION PIECE OF THIS, YOU MAY HAVE HIGHER RATES THAN WHAT RISK MANAGEMENT CAN NEGOTIATE.

>> I'M STILL NOT UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE THERE'S NOT REALLY $11 MILLION OF SAVINGS IN THE COST-PLUS MODEL BASED ON WHAT YOU ARE SAVING SAYING. I UNDERSTAND THAT CAR AND IT IS SHARING YOUR ABILITY TO UTILIZE YOUR NEGOTIATING, I GET ALL OF THAT. WHAT I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING IS IS THE REAL SAVINGS IN THE COST-PLUS, OR IS IT JUST A BENEFIT TO WASTE MANAGEMENT? ON THE BID SHEET IS $1.2 MILLION DIFFERENCE, BUT IF WE ARE VERY ALL THE RISK, I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO KNOW THAT THE BOAT.

>> I WILL FEEL THAT IT IS BEARING ON THE RISK, IS TAKING THE PARTNERSHIP OF WHAT WILL BE IN THE MARKET WE WILL HAVE FOOTBALL SO WHEN THE MARKET GOES DOWN WITH FUEL, YOU WILL

BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR BENEFITS. >> OTHER QUESTIONS?QUESTIONS

OF STAFF?>> CHARLIE, DO YOU WANT TO COME UP?

>> MY QUESTION IS THE TRANSPORTATION IS PERMITTED, CORRECT? THERE IS ONE PERMIT? WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT AGREEMENT?

>> THE CONTRACTOR. >> HOW WOULD IT WORK IF WE HAD

SHARE RESPONSIBILITIES? >> WE HAD TO CALL IN THE DEP TO FIND OUT NEED TO DO TO MODIFY THE PERMITS PERMITS.

AT THIS POINT IT IS UNKNOWN. >> THE SECOND QUESTION, HAVE WE LOOKED AT THE BASE BID COST-PLUS MODEL?

>> IT IS BASED OFF OF STAFF CALCULATIONS.

>> I DID TAKE A LOOK AT BOTH BIDS AND I DO AGREE WITH SOME OF THE THINGS YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST WILL GO ON THE FUTURE. THIS YEAR THERE'S A COST SAVINGS BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT YEAR.

GATHER SALARIES CAN SKYROCKET AND AS FAR AS YOUR, BUT THE FUEL, FOR THE CPI TO BOTH OF THEM SO BOTH BIDS WILL GO UP WITH THAT CPI ADJUSTMENT IS WHAT I SAW YOUR COMMENT FOR THE FUEL WILL BE INCLUDED IN THEIR COST.

ALSO, THE FUEL ADJUSTMENT FOR THE OTHER BASE ADJUSTED.

BOTH WILL HAVE THE FUEL ADJUSTMENT, IT IS WHETHER OR NOT THE FUEL ADJUSTMENT WILL SEE OR HINDER SPENCER WE WILL

BE ABLE TO SEE THAT WAY. >> I THINK IS MORE TRANSPARENT

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THE PROFIT CAN BE A LOT MORE IF THEIR COST GOES DOWN.

WE WOULD SHARE THE COST-PLUS. >> COMMISSIONER: SO WE CAN GO ON THIS IF YOU KNOW THE ANSWER FROM DEP CORRECT?

>> IF YOU WANT TO DO BOTH WE WOULDNEED ADDITIONAL .

>> OTHER QUESTIONS?>> I DON'T THINK SO, FOR EVERYTHING.

>> OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? COMMISSIONER CELLA?

>> COMMISSIONER: WHAT ADDITIONAL COSTS ARE WE GOING TO INCUR THAT WILL LEAD AWAY AT THE $400,000 SAVINGS THAT WE TALKING ABOUT? WILL THERE BE ADDITIONAL THE FIRM IS PERMITTED? DURING INCREASE COSTS THERE FOR RESTORING FUEL ON THE PREMISES? TELL ME ABOUT WHERE WE ARE WITH

THAT. >> COMMISSIONER, TO BE QUITE BLUNT, WE HAVE NOT LEARNED A GREAT DEAL ABOUT THAT! WE EXPECT THERE WILL BE EQUIPMENT SHALL BE MANAGED BY THE CONTRACTOR. I DON'T KNOW THERE WOULD BE THAT MUCH COST ASSOCIATED WITH. WHAT I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE TWO COMPANIES OPERATING ON A SMALL PARCEL AND WHAT THE POTENTIAL DANGERS WOULD BE TO OUR RESIDENTS THAT COME TO THE CENTER. THERE WILL BE - - WE ARE RESPONDING TO. HE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THE

MONEY. >> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, IS THERE A MODEL THAT OTHER COUNTIES USING TEXTBOOKS

COLLECTIONS AND HAULING? >> ST. JOHNS COUNTY BUT THEY ARE AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. THEY HAVE TWO CALLERS.

>> BUT THEY WILL OPERATE OUT OF THE SAME FACILITY?

>> THEY HAVE A CLUSTER THAT MANAGES BOTH TRANSPORTATION.

>> IF I MAY, I THINK WE ARE MIXING UP COLLECTION AND HAULING. ST. JOHN'S DOES HAVE TWO ZONES ON TRANSFER AND HAULING WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE OF TWO TRANSFER STATIONS LOCATED IN SEPARATE PARCELS.

HOWEVER, THEY ARE CURRENTLY CONDUCTED WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT

OPERATING THEM. >> MY QUESTION IS IS ANYBODY ELSE DOING OUT OF ONE FACILITY AND TRANSFERRING INTO HAULING?

>> I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER LOCATION LIKE THIS THAT HAS TWO DISTINCT TRANSPORTATION ON THE SAME PROPERTY THAT IS SPLIT.

>> WE ARE LOOKING AT THE NEW BUILDING.

THAT WILL TAKE ONE BUILDING OUT OF THE WAY, HOW DOES THAT WORK?

>> WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO LOCATE THE LAND.

SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO THE ROSEMARY FACILITY AND INITIALLY WITH SET THAT UP THE RESIDENCE WOULD HAVE A PLACE AND WE WOULD MAKE

THAT MSW. >> I'M TRYING TO GET TO THE

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>> THEY SHARE A STAGING PARKIN AREA FOR EQUIPMENT .

I HAVE CONCERNS AND HOW OPERATIONALLY HOW THAT WORKS WITH TWO DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS FOR LIMITED SPACE.

WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PERMITS BECAUSE OF THAT SHARED SPACE?

>> THIS PAST YEAR I'VE BEEN TO THE TRANSPORTATION QUITE A BIT YOU GOT TO HAVEYOUR HEAD ON A SWIVEL .

IT IS BUSY, HECTIC. WE HAD THREE FLAT TIRES, THAT WAS MY QUESTION THE OPERATIONS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THEIR TOES TO MAKE SURE WE CLEAN THAT STUFF I HAVE ANOTHER SMALL COTTAGES WITH LACK TIRES NOT TOO HAPPY ABOUT IT.

>> IT'S A CONTINUOUS BATTLE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> MANAGER, BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE HAD SPLITTING, I THINK WE CAN MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THAT TODAY BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT IS PERMITTED. SOMEBODY ELSE MIGHT TELL US THAT OUR FUEL STORAGE CAPACITY WOULD GO FROM ONE TIER TO ANOTHER TIER BIBLE COST IN TERMS OF INSURANCE, WHO KNOWS? FROM THAT STANDPOINT IF WE ARE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION, THAT IS NOT A DECISION THAT CAN BE MADE TODAY IT IS EASY TO VOTE FOR THE NEW GUY COMING IN BECAUSE THE OLD GUY HAS SOME SINS BUT THEY HAVE BEEN THERE WHEN WE NEEDED THEM AND PRODUCE RIGHTTHROUGH THE PANDEMIC . CERTAINLY COLLECTIONS IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY AND WHEN WE GET TO THAT, I'M CONSIDERING WE WILL HAVE NO MORE THAN TWO COMPANIES BIDDING ON THAT, AT LEAST WE HOPE THAT IS THE CASE. WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT. THE NUMBER ONE PICK ACCORDING TO A PROCUREMENT SELECTION. I HAVE NO PROBLEMS MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

THE QUESTION IS DO WE ROLL THE DICE THINKING THAT FUEL PRICES WILL RISE AS MUCH AS WE THINK. THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING, THE BOARD DECIDES THAT IT WOULD SPLIT NOT SOMETHING YOU COME TO BASED ON THE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.

I WOULD NOT BE COMFORTABLE IN PASSING SOMETHING.

>> THE DISCUSSION WE HAD ABOUT THIS YARD TRASH PRICE OPERATIO , MAYBE THEY DID NOT KNOW, CAN WE ASK ABOUT THAT? THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO ME. THERE WERE TONS OF DOTS WIDENED THE COME AND HELP US TOO ANYWAY, THAT'S BESIDE THE

POINT. >> OTHER COMMUNITIES NEEDED DRIVERS AS WELL WE PRODUCE MORE GARBAGE IN THE PANDEMIC OF THE

BEFORE AFTER. >> THAT WOULD MY QUESTION FROM

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PRICE. >> WE OFTEN NICE FOR THE ATHLETES COMING TO LOWER A SPECIFIC PRICE POINT.

THESE ARE OUR NUMBERS, WE ARE STICKING WITH THEM THIS IS WHAT WE ARE PUTTING THE PROPOSAL. FOR ASKING EACH COMPANY TO LOWER THE PRICE OF THE GET TOGETHER IN PRIVATE BUSINESS.

>> CONCERNING THAT, THERE IS A PROCESS CALLED INVITATION TO NEGOTIATE. THIS IS NOT AN ATM, YOU CAN'T

REALLY DIVERT TOO MUCH. >> AT THIS JUNCTURE, WE CAN ASK THEM TO CHANGE THAT.. THERE IS A NEXT STEP THAT MAY BE CONSIDERED BUT THAT IS WHAT THEY SUBMITTED.

>> IS THERE A WAY TO DIRECT PURCHASING NEGOTIATE THE KIND

OF STUFF? >> THAT IS A PART OF

PURCHASING'S JOB. >> SO GFL PRICE WAS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER, THUS THE $450,000 PER YEAR LESS WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS CAUSING ME TO WANT TO ENTERTAIN A SECOND COLLAR. THAT OBVIOUSLY, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT STANDS THE SITUATION WITH REPEATABILITY FOR US TO

ASK PURCHASING TO MATCH THAT? >> THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED INTHE NEGOTIATIONS .

>> OTHER DISCUSSION? >> SO WE DON'T HAVE A FIRM ANSWER ON THAT? LIKELY? BEST SO TO ANSWER COMMISSIONERS CONDON QUESTION, WE WILL BE DANCING ON THE FIGURES THAT THEY HAVE GIVEN US MORE OR LESS IT WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT CHANG .

>> WE CANNOT DETERMINE WHAT MAY HAPPEN IN THE NEGOTIATIONS PART A LOT THOSE INVOLVED IN THIS CONTRACT THAT IS SEPARATE AND JUST NUMBERS. IF WE DON'T REACH AGREEMENT ON CERTAIN TERMS, IT RIGHT BACK TO ME.

EVEN FROM A NEGOTIATION STANDPOINT, IF FROM STAFF STANDPOINT WE CAN AGREE, IT WILL COME BACK TO YOU.

>> LIKE IN OUR COLLECTION CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE THE DAMAGE BEFORE, TALKED WITH OUR NEXT CONTRACT WOULD HAVE THAT IN THEIR THIRD SUCCESSFUL BIDDER DID NOT WANT TO ENTERTAIN THAT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO COME BACK AND SAY WE CAN DO SOMETHINGDIFFERENT . OTHER DISCUSSION?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE BEFORE I VOTE.

>> IN THE PROCESS OF OUR RANKING SHE, IT IS NOT GIVE THE OPTION FOR COMMISSIONER TO MAKE A DIFFERENT MOTION HOWEVER YOU WANT TO YOUR MOTION. IF YOU WANT TO SEPARATE OR MORE THAN ONE, PAST ADDITIONAL SCORE SHEETS OR FINESSE THIS HOWEVER

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HE PROPOSED. >> WITH THAT EMOTION THAT YOU

WANT TO DELAY THE BID? >> YES, WE DON'T KNOW EITHER

ANSWER YET. >> I THINK THAT THE FIRST THING ME TO DECIDE. DO YOU WANT TO INVESTIGATE TWO PROVIDERS OR A SINGLE PROVIDER BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF WORK

THERE. >> CHAIR: I WOULD THINK GFL KNOWS HOW TO DO THAT. THEY PROPOSED THAT, DO THEY HAVE AN ANSWER TO IT? HAVE BEEN THOSE OTHER COUNTIES? THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION IF THE COUNTY IS NOT KNOWN AT COMEDY THE MORE INFORMATION IS PERMITTED, THAT IS WHEN WE MET

MORE INFORMATION. >> .GFL KNEW THERE WERE - - WHY DIDN'T WASTE MANAGEMENT NEED INFORMATION AS TO WHAT THE BID?

>> IT WAS POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AGENDA, THE CRITTER PULLED UP.

>> ON THE BACK OF THE AGENDA FOR A WEEK BUT IT WAS AT THE

LAST BOARD MEETING. >> TWO WEEKS AGO ACTUALLY.

>> THE ONLY WAY WE WILL MOVE FORWARD AS THE TERMINATION ON EXPLORING THE ROLE OF THE SERVICES AND FIND OUT THAT THE CASE THAT WE HAVE STAFF IN THESE TWO GOING TO HOMEWORK TO GET US THE ANSWER, DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT TAKES IT DOESN'T TAKE IN TERMS OF GETTING AN ANSWER AND RECONVENING AT SOME POINT AND MAKE THE DETERMINATION REALITY BY VOTING ON IT. THAT DOES NOT WORK IN TERMS OF A MAJORITY OF US AT THIS POINT TIME VICKI WE DON'T WANT TO SPLIT IT THAN THAT IS A MOOT POINT.

>> WHAT IS HER CURRENT CONTRACT EXPIRED?

>> IT SEEMS LIKE PLENTY OF TIME BUT - - NEW VENDOR WHO IS NOT ALREADY ON THE GROUND BECAUSE WE ARE REQUIRING NEW EQUIPMENT, IT IS TIME NEEDED TO ACQUIRE THE AMOUNT OF ROLLING STOCK AS FAR AS TRACTOR-TRAILERS. THERE WILL BE SOME TIME NEEDED

TO GET THAT EQUIPMENT IN PLACE. >> THE DREADED SUPPLY CHAIN, I THINK IT IS ALL THE CONSPIRACY BUT THAT IS MY

OPINION. >> WE HAVE FIVE MONTHS.

IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TIME, TWO WEEKS WON'T MAKE MUCH OF A

DIFFERENCE. >> I THINK TWO WEEKS TO DELAY

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THE VOTE, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> I THINK A MISSION CELLA IS ASKING IF WE HAVE ENOUGH COMMISSIONERS THAT WANT TO OR INTERESTED IN SPLITTING IT? IF WE DON'T, IT'S A MOOT POINT.

>> MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, IT WILL TAKE MATTER OF DAYS TO GET A VERBAL RESPONSE BACK IT WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO GO TO THE PROCESS OF THEPERMITTING .

WE WOULD ALSO HAVE THAT ANSWER I HOW LONG THAT WOULD TAKE.

JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU WOULD

NEEDED. >> WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO MAKE A MOTION? I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT CONTINUE UNTIL WE FIND OUT FROM DP IF WE CAN HAVE TWO PERMITS, AND ALSO TO ALLOW TIME TO GET MORE INFORMATION HOW THAT WILL WORK I WOULD BE CONTINUING GET HIS TWO WEEKS ENOUGH?

THE NEXT MEETING WITH ME NINE. >> THERE IS NO ADVERTISING

NEEDED. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CONTINUING THIS TO THE MAIN NINTH MEETING TO FIND OF THE THINNER INFORMATION INDICATED BY SAYING I, THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES FOR THIS ONE. GOING BACK ON OUR AGENDA.

>> CAN YOU PLEASE REMIND EVERYONE OF THE NO CONTACT

RULE? >> YES, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE OF THE NO CONTACT RUL , IT IS NICE SEEING YOU, WE WILL SEE YOU AGAIN IN TWO WEEK , THANK YOU.

IS THAT SUFFICIENT?WILL BE TOO ITEM 13, RESOLUTON

[13.  Resolution approving the Community Redevelopment Plan for the Green Cove Springs Redevelopment Area and approving the Interlocal Agreement between the County, the City and the Green Cove Springs Community Redevelopment Agency (T. Nagle/C. Grimm)]

AGENCY. >> I KNOW MR. KENNEDY IS HERE, PREVIOUS PRESENTATION MOVING FORWARD, THE CITY HAS CREATED THE ACTUAL CRA AGENCY AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND ALSO BASED ON DELEGATION OF POWERS WITH AGENCY SET FORTH IN THE INTERLOCAL.

THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED - - WORK WITH THE COUNCIL I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A MUCH BETTER PRODUCT.

THEY ALSO PREVIOUSLY APPROVED THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THAT IS WHY THE DRAFT DOES NOT HAVE ANY LENGTH TO EXPERT IF YOU APPROVE IT TONIGHT, ONCE THOSE ACTIONS OCCUR WE WOULD FILL THOSE POINTS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE INTERLOCAL, STAFF AND I CAN ASSIST WITH THAT BUT I THINK MR. KENNEDY IS HERE MAY BE ABLE TO ASSIST YOU WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.ALSO, YOU'VE COMMISSIONER BURKE ON THE AGENCY. THEY HAVE ALREADY APPROVED THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN SO THEY CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY

HAVE. >> MR. KENNEDY?

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>> MADAM CHAIRMAN AND BOARD, I WAS ABOUT TO ORDER SOME PIZZA FOR EVERYBODY. [LAUGHTER].

I HAD CATARACT SURGERY SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME.

TO COURTNEY'S COMMENT, THE REDEVELOPMENT PLANS WE HAVE SUBMITTED HAVE BEEN PROVIDED FOR YOU ALL TO REVIEW, THAT IS NOT CHANGED. THE DOCUMENTS, THE PROJECTS, THE OBJECTIVES, ALL THOSE THINGS REMAIN THE SAME.

PART OF THE PRESENTATION WE HAVE MADE MAKING A BACKUP MARCH AND APRIL, INCLUDED THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN CAPTURES WHAT YOU ALL HAVE AGREED TO AND LOOKED AT. EACH OF THE PARTIES THEY CAN GO ON AND WILL GO ON GOING TO THE TRUST FUND.

AT THIS POINT, SHORT OF ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, MY ASSUMPTION IS YOU WOULD'VE HAD THOSE DOCUMENTS AND REVIEWED THEM. I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT HOWARD, COURTNEY AND TROY AND WHOEVER ELSE GOT THERE HANDED, IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS. I STILL CONVEY MY REQUEST FOR YOU ALL TO APPROVE IT BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT TOOL TO NOT ONLY THE COMMUNITY BEFORE OUR CITY DOWNTOWN AS YOU WILL RECALL WE EXPANDED THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE BOARD TO INCLUDE TWO REPRESENTATIVES. AT THIS POINT, I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE WE ARE AT.

ANYTHING IN THE PREDEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. IT IS A DOCUMENT THA HAS BEEN SUBMITTED AND COULD HAVE BEEN REVIEWED. SO AGAIN, I REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL AS WE DID THE VERY FIRST MEETING AND I REACHED OUT TO EACH OF YOU WANTING TO MAKE SURE THERE WERE NO QUESTIONS OR ISSUES. AND YOU KNOW, PART OF THIS, WHILE I HAV DONE ONE OF THESE IN A PREVIOUS LOCATION IN ANOTHER STATE, IT I DIFFERENT. FLORIDA STATUTES ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I HAD WORKE WITH. GENERALLY SPEAKING I THIN IT WAS NEW FOR ALL OF US AND TH IDEA OF DOING IT TOGETHER AND WORKING ON IT WAS OF GREAT BENEFIT. IT WAS TO US TO MAKE SURE WE HAD OUR DUCKS IN A ROW.

WITH THAT, I'M NOT SURE YOUR PARTICULAR PROTOCOL FROM COURTNEY BUT I WOULD REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL ON THE TWO

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THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. KENNEDY.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM? OR FO STAFF?

>> IF I COULD. >> WHAT PERCENTAGE WERE YOU

RECOMMENDING? >> THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION WHICH WAS WHAT IS, STATED IN TH FLORIDA STATUTE WAS 95%. AND WE TALKED AND THE REQUEST WAS TO DROP IT ON THE COUNTY'S INCREMENT TO 90% WHICH MEANS YO WILL RETAIN 5% OF ALL THAT IS COLLECTED. FOR THE FIRST TEN YEARS. IF NO ONE WILL HOLD ME T THE EXACT NUMBERS, I DID A QUIC CALCULATION OFF OF THE NUMBERS WE HAD WORKED WITH AND IT LOOKS LIKE FOR THE FIRST 20 YEARS, THAT THE COUNTY WOULD GET OVER HALF MILLION DOLLARS OVER THE ENTIRE PERIOD. THEN DROPPING IT ANOTHER 10% THIS WAS AGREEABLE TO AND IN THE WORDING, IT WOULD GIVE YOU ABOUT $2.3 MILLION.

>> SO 90 THE FIRST 20 YEARS AND THEN AFTER YOUR 20, GO TO 80?

>> YES, SIR. >> DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION?

>> I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING. I ASSUME WITH THIS FUND WE ARE GOING TO USE IT TO GET SOME SORT OF BONDING FOR RENOVATIONS, REJUVENATION OF THIS AREA. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE, THIS IS KIND AFTER A LEGA QUESTION. THAT RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE BONDS WILL BE WITH THE CRA. HOPEFULLY, IT DOES WELL.

WHAT IF IT DOESN'T? WHO IS RESPONSIBLE? GREEN CODES IN CLA COUNTY. WHAT RESPONSIBILITY DO OUR OTHER CITIZENS HAVE? OR ANY BONDING OR EQUITY TYPE INSTRUMENTS THAT THEY MAY

PURSUE? >> WELL THE SECURITY FOR THE BONDING WOULD BE THIS INCREMENT FUNDING. SO THERE IS LANGUAGE THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE AGREEMENT THAT THE AGENCY IS REQUIRED AT SUNSET NOT TO HAVE DEBT. THE STATUTE PROVIDES THAT THE FUNDING WOULD CONTINUE TO SERVICE THE DEBT.

>> IT WOULD CONTINUE INTO 40 YEAR INS WOULD IT GO BEYOND 40

YEARS? >> IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE AGENCY NOT TO LET THAT HAPPEN SO IT IS PROVIDED IN THE INTERLOCAL THAT THE FUNDING BEFORE THEY CAN ENTER INTO THE BONDS THEY HAVE TO GET THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY AND THE COUNTY SO WE WOULD HOPEFULLY BEBE LOOKING AT THE CITY COUNCILS AND THE COMMISSIONERS TO CHECK.

>> I'M JUST, JUST FOR KNOWLEDGE WE HAVE TO PROVE THE BONDING REQUEST OR WHATEVER. THERE IS SOME CULPABILITY IN THERE. WITH A COMPLETE MELTDOWN OF THE ECONOMY, THERE MAY NOT BE A CONTRIBUTION TO THAT FUND. BUT THAT'S WORST CASE.

>> OKAY. >> COMMISSIONER, I DIDN'T ASK I

YOU HAD ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS. >> I WOULD JUST ECHO IT. BUT ALSO, I THINK ANY BONDING THAT TAKES PLACE, THEY WOULD LET YOU

BOND TO A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE. >> YOU NORMALLY HAVE TO HAVE 11 OR 120% COVERAGE ON WHATEVER YOUR DEBT IS. FOR WHATEVER THE ENGAGEMENT, YOU HAVE TWO MEMBERS, THE COUNTY REPRESENTATION THAT WILL BE IN THE TWO, THE CITY, AND THEN,

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COVER THAT IN MY EXPERIENCE. >> ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE, I A CONCERNED ABOUT BONDING IS PREDICATED ON PAST PERFORMANCE.

HERE YOU HAVE A CRA WITH NO PAS PERFORMANCE. AND RATING INTERES RATES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT A CRA BONDING, WHAT KIND OF INTEREST RATE ARE WE GOING TO PAY MORE THAN NORMAL? PROBABLY SO, I

WOULD GUESS. >> SO MY POINT, THOSE ARE A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS THAT THE SECURITY FOLKS WILL WANT. IT WOULD BE AN OPTION. AND AGAIN, MY REQUEST IS THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL WE GET THE ENGIN STARTED. AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. AND I ASSURE YOU, FROM WHATEVER INVOLVEMENT, BECAUSE I BROUGHT THE IDEA TO YOU ALL. I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE MY REPUTATION AND MY AWARENESS OF THINGS IS NOT GOING TO BE IMPACTED IN A NEGATIVE WAY IF THERE IS ANY WAY I CAN HELP IT.

>> THANK YOU. >> I THANK Y'ALL AGAIN.

>> I ONLY EXPRESSED, I HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE. BUT I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THE CRA. I THINK IT IS GOOD WORK TO BE DONE. I WILL SHARE WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS THAT I HAV SHARED WITH MR. KENNEDY MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE GREEN COAST SPRING CITY COUNCIL CONTINUING TO ANNEX PROPERTY WITHOUT REALL COOPERATION WITH THE COUNTY. AN THE ONE THAT COMES TO MIND FOR ME IS THAT THE ANNEXATION OF OU LAST TRULY DEVELOPPROPERTY WAS THE GUSTAVSON PROPERTY AND NOW IT IS A THOUSAND HOMES AND I KNOW YOU DID THAT LEGALLY. NOT YOU, YOUR COUNCIL DID THAT LEGALLY. BUT I JUST ASKED MR. KENNEDY GOING FORWARD IF THEY CAN BE A BETTER PARTNER WITH TH COUNTY TO PREVENT SOME OF THAT STUFF FROM HAPPENING. WE HAVE OTHER SHARED INTEREST ON OTHER BORDERS AND WE WANT TO BE GOOD PARTNERS WITH THE CITY. THAT DOESN'T AFFECT THE CRA. BUT THI IS OUR LAST OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT FROM THE DAIS AND SO I WANTED TO SHARE THAT IN FULL TRANSPARENCY THAT I HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH MR. KENNEDY.

AND HOPEFULLY, WE WILL PASS THA ALONG TO HIS COUNCIL. HOPEFULLY

THEY ARE WATCHING TONIGHT. >> TO YOUR POINT, MADAME CHAIRMAN, HOWARD AND I AND THE STAFF, THE LAST OPPORTUNITY WE HAD, WE CAME AND CHATTED ABOUT IT. DISCUSSED WHAT THE ISSUES WERE, WHAT THE THOUGHTS WERE. IDENTIFIED WHAT THE POTENTIAL HEARTBURN WAS. AND IT WAS IDENTIFIED AS LAND USE.

COMPATIBILITY OF LAND USE: ANYTHING TIME WE HAD SOMETHING COME UP, APPROPRIATE STAFF WOUL MEET AND WE WOULD REVIEW THE IMPACT BEFORE IT EVEN WENT TO THE LEVEL OF APPLICATION. WE WOULD KNOW ABOUT IT BEFORE IT GOT DOWN THE ROAD. IT WAS TOO LATE TO SAY, LET'S THINK ABOUT IT. THE PARTNERSHIP IS WHAT WE

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WE WANT TO LEVERAGE WHATEVER WE CAN LEVERAGE AMONG OUR TWO OPERATIONS TO MAKE IT BENEFICIA TO OUR RESPECTIVE CONSTITUENTS.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. AND THAT'S MY COMMITMENT. IT HAS BEEN MY COMMITMENT FOUR-AND-A-HALF YEARS AGO WHEN CAME ON BOARD, THAT'S THE WAY I LIKE TO DO BUSINESS. IF WE ARE GOING TO GO THIS WAY ALL THE TIME, IT WILL BE A MISERABLE

RELATIONSHIP. >> WE CAN TALK AMONG OURSELVES.

BUT I FEEL FORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE THE TEAMS ON OUR END AND TEAMS ON THE COUNTY END THAT WE CAN TALK. AND WE CAN, I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. BUT WE CAN STILL TALK. WHAT WE ARE DOING AND WHY WE ARE DOING IT. AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT. I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS. I KNOW THAT'S THE CASE. BUT, I DO AND HAVE ENJOYED AND WILL CONTINUE TO ENJOY WORKING WITH COURTNEY AND TROY AND MR. HALE EVERYBODY THAT WE CAN WORK WITH ON SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MR. KENNEDY. >> WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

OR WAS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION >> I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CRA SPECIFYING THAT WOULD BE A 90/8 SPLIT AS DISCUSSED. DO WE HAVE TWO?

>> IT IS APPROVING THE RESOLUTION AND THE RESOLUTION ITSELF ALLOWS FOR THE ADOPTION OF OUR APPROVAL OF THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND ALSO, APPROVAL OF THE INTERLOCAL. BUT IF I COULD JUST ADD A LITTLE CAVEAT. IF YOU WOULD AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE IT ONCE WE HAVE THE DATES, IT WILL BE

FINALIZED. >> I APPROVE TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION. AND AS SUCH, GIVEN THE CHAIRMAN THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE AS NECESSARY AS DIRECTE BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

>> SECOND MOTION. >> AND WE HAVE A MOTION, AENED

SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> JUST IF I COULD, THERE IS ANOTHER STEP IN THE COOPERATION AND THE PARTNERSHIP OF THE COUNTY AND THE CITY OF GREEN COVE. THERE IS ALWAYS IN ANY RELATIONSHIP, THERE IS SOME ROUGH SPOTS. I THINK IT WAS TALKED ABOUT AND SPOKE ABOUT BY THE SHERIFF. SOMETHING I TALKED ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN MANEUVER AROUND THAT.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE CRA TRANSFORMING GREEN COVE SPRINGS INTO A PLACE THAT EVERYBODY WOULD NOT ONLY LIKE TO LIVE IN,

BUT VISIT AS WELL. >> THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE IS CRA IS AN EXCELLENT TOOL TO RENOVATE, REJUVENATE. REHAVE OU PROPERTIES HERE IN CLAY COUNTY. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE CRA. I THINK IT IS GOING TO REALLY CHANGE THE WHOLE DYNAMIC OF

GREEN COVE SPRINGS. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIE

4-0. 5-0. >> OKAY.

>> WHAT'S ONE COMMISSIONER BETWEEN FRIENDS? IT STILL

PASSES. >> I LAUGHED EARLIER. YOU DIDN'

[16.  Acceptance of Resignation from the Middleburg/Clay Hill Citizens Advisory Committee]

IT'S 5-0. ITEM NUMBER 16, THAT' WHY. BECAUSE I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS. AND THIS ONE MAKES ME SAD. SO, RESIGNATION FROM OU MIDDLEBURG CLAY HEALTH CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. MS. SANDRA WILSON. THEY HAD ONE MEETING AN IT WAS A ROUGH MEETING. RUNNING HER OFF. BUT, SHE DIDN'T LIKE HOW HER FELLOW CITIZENS VOTED AND I DON'T THINK SHE LIKED THE DISCUSSION. SO, WITH THAT. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE HER RESIGNATION.

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>> I WILL MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE SAYING AYE.

>> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIE 5-0.

>> SANDRA, WE HARDLY KNEW YOU. >> I KNOW.

>> BUT WE DO KNOW HER AND SHE WAS ONE OF THE BEST ONES.

[17.  Discussion of Appointments to the Historic Preservation Board]

>>> DISCUSSION OF APPOINTMENTS TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD. RANDY HARRIS HAS SUBMITTED HIS APPLICATION FOR REAPPOINTMENT TO HIS DISTRICT 5 SEAT. AND BILLY GOULD HAS SUBMITTED HIS APPLICATION TO FILL A VACANT AT LARGE SEAT. AN THERE WAS A QUESTION RAISED THA BILLY GOULD IS ON OUR STAFF AND COULD HE FILL A ROLE ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD? AN THE ANSWER IS YES BECAUSE IT IS A VOLUNTEER BOARD. HE CAN

FULFILL THAT. >> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE

BOTH. >> A MOTION TO APPROVE BOTH.

>> SECOND THE MOTION. >> SECOND. ALL THOSE. FURTHER DISCUSSION? MOTION CARRIES 5-0.

>>> NEXT, WE HAVE SOME BID OPENINGS. AND WE ARE AT OUR LAS PUBLIC COMMENT. I DO NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO THE

[COUNTY MANAGER]

COUNTY ATTORNEY? MANAGER? >> MADAME CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS, JUST WANT TO THANK THE TEAM AND THE CLAY DAY COMMITTEE FOR A SPECIAL CLAY DAY THIS PAST WEEK THEY DEFINITELY HEARD US IN TALLAHASSEE. AND IT WAS VERY GOOD TO MEET THE DELEGATION AND TO SEE OTHERS FROM OUR LEGISLATURE AND GETTING RECOGNIZED TWICE ON THE FLOOR WHICH WAS ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC.

SO AGAIN, WANTED TO THANK SPECIFICALLY SHARICE, KIMBERLY, AND KAREN. I DON'T THINK ALL THREE OF THEM. THEY ARE DOING

SOME OTHER THINGS. >> THEY ARE STILL SLEEPING.

>> THEY STILL MAY BE A LITTLE TIRED. THEY JUST KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK WITH THE ENTIRE TEAM. I APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT FROM THOSE SPONSORS THA WERE OUT THERE. AND ESPECIALLY CLAY CHAMBER. NEXT ITEM, THIS PAST SATURDAY, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON THESE PAST WEEKENDS. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT ONE ITEM OF NOTE. IT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT. ON SATURDAY, APRIL 22ND, AN EARTH DAY EVENT WAS HELD AT HIGH RIDGESTATES. I WANT TO RECOGNIZ COMMISSIONER DIRK ROAD, CLAY COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AND ANIMAL SERVICES. KEEP CLAY BEAUTIFUL. UFIFIS. HUMANA. SEED OF GRACE BOOK BUS. LAKE AREA MINISTRIES AND LAKE REGION. THERE WAS 1.37 TONS OF C AND D THAT IS CONSTRUCTION DEMOLITION DEBRIS COLLECTED. 3.38 TONS OF GARBAGE. FOUR TONS OF TIRES THA WAS ESTIMATED FOR A TOTAL OF 8.75 TONS OF TRASH COLLECTED. S ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC. 34 HOMES WERE SERVICED. WITH 68 TRASH CANS DISTRIBUTED. VOLUNTEERS FROM FLQCA. NUMBER OF VOLUNTEER HOURS SERVED, 275. VOLUNTEER VALUE FOR THE EVENT, $7,612. ANIMAL SERVICES FINALLY SERVED OVER 20 FAMILIES AND DONATED DO AND CAT COLLARS. DOG LEASHES, DOG AND CAT TOYS. WHAT AN EVENT AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING FOR MOTOR SERVE. TO CHANGES OF COMMAND.

WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COUNTY I ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC. FINALLY.

JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, THERE I A PACT ACT INFORMATION FORM.

THIS IS THE PROMISE TO ADDRESS THE COMPREHENSIVE TOCKS. WE ARE THE FIRST AREA AROUND TO HAVE THIS WITHIN THE STATE. IT IS ON SATURDAY THE 6TH OF MAY. AND THAT'S AT 9:00 IN THE MORNING UNTIL NOON. AT THE VI STAR METE RAN'S MEMORIAL ARENA. 308 RANDOLPH BOULEVARD IN THE DUVAL ROOM. THIS IS AREAS WHERE OUR VETERANS WERE EXPOSED TO OPEN BURNING PITS AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS. AND, THE GOVERNMENT HAS RECOGNIZED THAT. THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNIT O GET THE HELP THESE VETERANS NEED. PENDING ANY QUESTIONS, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNTY MANAGER? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]

>>> AND, FINALLY, WE MOVE TO COMMISSIONER COMMENTS?

COMMISSIONER BURKE? >> I WAS ABOUT TO JUMP OUT THER AND START YELLING BECAUSE I JUS FOUND OUT THAT WE GOT OUR 3

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ONE. YES. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> THAT'S EXCITING.

>> OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR FINGERS PROCESSED.

>> THEY DON'T GO BACK ON IT. THAT'S RIGHT.

>> HE HAS LINE ITEM. THANKS. >> MY NEXT, YEAH. RICHARD, THIS IS A BIG PROJECT AND WE DON'T BRIEF THAT VERY OFTEN. I THINK IT IS A 2-POINT SOMETHING MILLION? A BIG PROJECT?

>> RICHARD SMITH. CLAY COUNTY ENGINEERING YES. THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT WAS THE CCUA DECIDE TO PARTICIPATE AND REPLACE AN AGING WATER LINE THAT WAS ASBESTOS LINED WATER LINE. I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THE WATER LINE IS 100% INSTALLED AND REPLACED.

AND WE HAVE THE NEXT UPCOMING COUPLE OF WEEKS WE WILL HAVE TRANSFERS OVER FOR THE CITIZENS AND THAT PART OF THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE. IT IS ALL THE SAME CONTRACTOR BUT IT WILL SPEED UP THE REMAINING PORTION OF IT. WHICH INCLUDES STORM DRAINS, UNDERDRAINS AND SOME SIDEWALK. MOSTLY SIDEWALK RAMP REPAIRS. S WE EXPECT THIS TO BE FINISHED I SEPTEMBER. YOU KNOW. NORMAL WEATHER PERMITTING. WE HAVE THE PURCHASE ORDER TO RESURFACE THE STREET AND A COUPLE OF OTHER STREETS IN THE AREA. IT WILL LOOK LIKE A NEW CORRIDOR. INCLUDING UNDERGROUND. SO, ANY

OTHER SPECIFIC CONCERNS? >> I JUST WANTED TO HEAR HOW WE ARE DOING ON THAT. AT A MEETING LAST EVENING AT COURTYARD ON WELLS ROAD. ABOUT GATEWAY TO CLAY, EXCELLENT BRIEF. GABBY IS NOT HERE. OH, THERE SHE IS. DID AN EXCELLENT JOB FACILITATING THAT. GOT A LOT OF POSITIVE COMMENTS SO, YOU KNOW, WE SHOUL BE EDUCATING THE PUBLIC AND THE ARE GETTING INTERESTED IN THE WHOLE PROJECT. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ERIC WITH US WITH THE REGIONAL COUNCIL. HE IS IN ATTENDANCE HERE. BUT, MORE IMPORTANTLY, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE SUPERSTARS WE HAD HERE TONIGHT WAS TASHA.

EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, SHE DID A GREAT FARE. BUT SHE WAS ALSO SELECTED AS A TOP UNDER 40 IN JACKSONVILLE. THAT WAS ANNOUNCE LATE LAST WEEK I THINK. SO YOU KNOW, OUR SUPERSTARS ARE BEING RECOGNIZED NOT ONLY WITHIN THE COUNTY BUT OUTSIDE THE COUNTY A WELL. SO I WANT TO CONGRATULATE HER THOUGH SHE IS NOT HERE TONIGHT. AND, WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER?

>> I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF. I WANT T ECHO WHAT OUR COUNTY MANAGER SAID ABOUT CLAY DAY. I APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORT IT TAKES TO PULL OFF SOMETHING LIK THAT AND A SPECIAL NOD TO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. JOHN CANTRELL, I KNOW YOU ARE WATCHING SOMEWHERE, YOU AND YOU TEAM DID A PHENOMENAL JOB. ONE THING I NOTICED THAT WAS VERY DIFFERENT FROM LAST YEAR WHEN I GOT TO PARTICIPATE WAS THEIR PRESENCE. THEY SHOWED UP AND SHOWED OUT AND OUR COUNTY STAFF THEY KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THEM AMAZING PEOPLE WORKING AT THE COUNTY LEVEL. IT IS GREAT TO

HAVE THAT HERE. GOODNIGHT FOLKS >> THANK YOU.

>> GOODNIGHT. >> I'M SORRY. HE LEFT. I WAS GOING TO RECOGNIZE FORMER STATE REPRESENTATIVE AND FORMER COMMISSIONER TRAVIS CUMMINGS. AND HE SNUCK OUT AT SOME POINT, BUT HE WAS HERE. SORRY I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SAY HI TO THEM.

COUPLE OF THINGS, I HAVE TO ECH WHAT EVERYBODY SAID ABOUT STAFF AND CLAY DAY, I THOUGHT THAT WA FANTASTIC. MOTO SURF TURNED OUT TO BE A GREAT EVENT. ORANGE PAR HAD THEIR KIDS FEST THIS WEEKEND. BIG CROWDS TURNED OUT THERE. TAKING OUT INVASIVE PLANTS TO GIVE OUR FLORIDA PLANTS A SHOT AT GROWING. THAT WAS ON EARTH DAY AS WELL. WE HAVE A TDC MEETING TOMORROW

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POOLS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, THAT WILL CERTAINLY BE GREAT.

THAT WILL BE RIGHT THERE. FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO DRIVE HIGHWAY 1 THROUGH FLEMMING ISLAND. I TALKED TO JIM KNIGHT, DISTRICT 2, WE WILL HAVE A BID OPENING FOR RESURFACING FROM WATER OAK LANE TO NORTH OF THE EAGLE HARPER PARKWAY. AND THAT INCLUDES REDOING THE INTERSECTIONS WITH THE NEW TURN LANES. BOTH ON BALD EAGLE AND 1 GOING UP TO 220. 17. AND ALSO, 17 OUT TO 220. SO THERE WILL BE SOME ACTION THERE. ANOTHER FEW

MONTHS UNTIL WE GET THAT. >> WHEN ARE THEY STARTING

CONSTRUCTION? >> START DATE THEY PUT ON THE

CONTRACT IS 9/27. >> ARE THEY GOING TO ISSUE MOUT GUARDS UNTIL THEN SO YOU DON'T CHATTER YOUR TEETH?

>> JUST DON'T OVERFEEL YOUR TIRES.

>> THE BENEFIT WILL BE THAT THE CHICK-FIL-A WILL BE BACK OPEN.

AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE PEOPLE IN FLEMMING ISLAND WILL EAT THE NEXT THREE MONTHS BUT I UNDERSTAND CHICK-FIL-A IS

CLOSING FOR RENOVATION. >> THREE MONTHS.

>> I THINK WE LOST THE ONE ON WELLS ROAD. IT WAS A LONG TIME.

>> BIGGEST CONVERSATION THAT I HAVE. THAT WE HAVE AT CHICK-FIL-A IS MORE RESTAURANTS THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO SEE.

SO DEVELOPERS ARE WATCHING. I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER, DID I CUT

YOU OFF? >> CHICK-FIL-A CUT ME OFF.

>> ENOUGH CHICKEN SANDWICHES. >> I'M DONE, THANK YOU.

>> SO I WILL ONLY FOLLOW UP WIT YES, THERE WAS A LOT GOING ON.

THE HIGH RIDGE INITIATIVE. IT WAS OUTSTANDING. THEY ARE WORKING ON COMMUNICATION FOR TH NEIGHBORHOODS. AND, THE LOGO WA DESIGNED BY KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. ARCHITECTURE. SO, OUR OWN BETH CARSON IS A MEMBER OF THAT ORGANIZATION. THERE ARE PEOPLE VOLUNTEERING. AND IT WAS A GREA EVENT. THE PEOPLE, WITH HIGH RIDGE INITIATIVE. THEY PRESENTE IDEAS OF WHAT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE. AND THEY ARE PAINTING THE LOGO. AND IT IS GOING TO LOOK REALLY NICE. I WAS UNABLE TO BE THERE. GOT SOME CRITICISM FROM MY FANS. OUT THERE. THE REASON WAS NOT THERE, I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER. MY HUSBAND, THE CHANGING OF THE GENERAL FOR THE ENTIRE FLORIDA NATIONAL GUARD. I WOULD TELL YO IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO ATTEND ONE OF THOSE EVENTS. IT IS QUITE MOVING. VERY MOTIVATING. MAKE YOU FEEL SOME PATRIOTISM. BUT, OUR NEW AJOINT GENERAL IS QUITE YOUNG. AND SO I'M NOT SURE THAT IT WILL BE HAPPENING IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

DID A GREAT JOB, BUT WE HAVE GENERAL HOSS NOW. HE IS A FRIEN TO CLAY COUNTY. AND SO, HE IS O A FIRST NAME BASIS WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER AND I SO WE FEEL VERY, I GUESS BLESSED TO HAVE

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AND THEY KNOW WHERE THEY WANT T BE GREAT PARTNERS WITH US AS WELL FOR CAMP BLANNING SO I SEE THE FUTURE BEING BRIGHT WITH THAT RELATIONSHIP AND IT IS VER IMPORTANT TO US AS IT SITS RIGH IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 6,000 ACRE IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR COUNTY. BU IT WAS A VERY MOVING EVENT AND OF COURSE, THERE IS ALWAYS LOTS GOING ON THESE DAY SOS S SO WE DIVIDE AND CONQUER. I UNDERSTAN THERE IS ANOTHER SHERIFF'S NET. THURSDAY THE 27TH AT, I DIDN'T READ THE POST. BUT AT PENNY FARMS? SO FOR THOSE OF YOU. SO FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC. THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS CHANGING THE WAY THE MEETINGS ARE BEING DONE. SO THEY ARE GOING TO MORE OF A NOT AS FREQUENT OF MEETINGS BUT THEY ARE DOING MORE REGIONAL MEETINGS. THEY ARE HITTING EVER DISTRICT. THE SHERIFF GOES. A LOT OF HER STAFF. JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO I WAS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ONE IN MIDDLEBURG AND WE HAD THE CHIEF OF NARCOTICS PRESENT IT. IT WAS FASCINATING. HE IS AN EXCELLENT SPEAKER. AND SO, IF YOU HAVE TIME ON THURSDAY NIGHT, GO TO PENNY FARMS AT 6:30. OH, IT'S DURING THE DAY. 4:00. 4/27 AT 4:00 AT PENNY FARMS. AND, I DON'T THINK I HAD, OH, SHERIFFS MEMORIAL, POLICE MEMORIAL WAS TALKED ABOUT EARLIER BUT THAT I MAY 2 AT MOOSE HAVEN AND THERE IS A NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER SERVICE. MORNING STAR CHURCH IN MIDDLEBURG AT 8:30. SO, IF THOS OF YOU WHO USED TO ATTEND THE NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER SERVICE. IT HAS BEEN MOVED. RIGHT OFF OF PALMETTO. AND OF COURSE, THE POLICE MEMORIAL IS AT MOOSEHAVE

. >> I GUESS I'M CONFUSED THEN. I WAS TOLD ABOUT NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER ON THE SECOND. I'LL BE A BOTH, HOPEFULLY. SO AT ANY RATE LET ME THEN CLARIFY. MAY 2 AT 9:00 IN THE MORNING. POLICE MEMORIAL AT MOOSE HAVEN. MAY 4TH. MAY THE 4TH BE WITH YOU. NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER SERVICE AT MORNING STAR FAMILY CHURCH A 8:30 IN THE MORNING.

>> 8:30 TO 9:30. >> AND PENNY FARMS IN THE EVENING. BE THERE. OR BE SQUARE I WILL ALWAYS BE AT THE SAINT JOHN'S RIVER STATE COLLEGE GRADUATION ON THAT FRIDAY MORNING, MAY 5TH AT 10:00 A.M. SO. ANYWAY. WITH THAT, IF THERE IS NOTHING FURTHER, FOR THE GOO OF THE ORDER, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.