[00:00:01] . >> OKAY. IF YOU WILL JOIN US FOR THE INVOCATION BY COMMISSIONER BURKE. >> PLEASE JOIN ME IN PRAYER. DEAR LORD, THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY IN OUR BEAUTIFUL COUNTY HERE. WE PRAY YOU'LL BE WITH ALL THOSE HERE TODAY. PRAY, ALSO, YOU'LL BE WITH ALL OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND MILITARY. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE HERE THAT WORKS SO HARD TO MAKE OUR COUNTY SUCH A WONDERFUL PLACE. PRAY YOU'LL BE WITH US TONIGHT AS WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT IMPACT PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTY AND HELP AND GUIDE AND DIRECT US IN THAT. I PRAY YOU'LL BLESS EVERYONE HERE AND IN OUR COUNTY AND THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES. IN JESUS' NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. NOW OUR VETERAN-LED PLEDGE IS BROUGHT TO US THIS AFTERNOON BY CAPTAIN ZANE E. SCHAUER. CAPTAIN SCHAUER SERVED OUR COUNTRY FOR SEVEN YEARS, ACTIVE IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY AND ACHIEVED THE RANK OF CAPTAIN DURING HIS CAREER. HE THEN SERVED IN THE FEDERAL CIVIL SERVICE FROM 1977 TO 2004 RETIRING AS A MEMBER OF THE SENIOR EXECUTIVE SERVICE. THAT WAS A COMBINED 34 YEARS OF FEDERAL SERVICE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. CAPTAIN SCHAUER WAS AWARDED A NATIONAL DEFENSE SERVICE MEDAL AND ARMY COMMENDATION MEDAL AND A MEMBER OF SEVERAL TEAMS TO EVALUATE MISSION READINESS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, SIR. IF YOU WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE AND THEN YOU CAN SAY A FEW WORDS. >> WELL, NO DISRESPECT TO ANYBODY HERE, BUT OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, I'D LIKE TO SAY A FEW THINGS FIRST. >> SURE. >> IN OUR LIVES, YOU PROBABLY SAID THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TIMES. THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS. THE BAD NEWS IS IT CAN BE KIND OF ROBOTIC. IF YOU'VE EVER SHOPPED AT KMART, YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN ON THE CASH REGISTERING TSFK. IT WAS THERE. THANK YOU FOR SHOPPING AT KMART, THANK YOU FOR SHOPPING AT KMART. IT WAS WHAT ROBOTS DO. BUT WE'RE PATRIOTS HERE. WE'RE GOING TO SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LIKE PATRIOTS. IT'S MY HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO LEAD YOU IN THIS PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> ALL: I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. [APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU, CAPTAIN SCHAUER. >> I WILL NOW CALL TO ORDER THE [CALL TO ORDER] BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING FOR MARCH 28TH, 2023. LET THE RECORD REFLECT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT. [PET ADOPTIONS] WE WILL NOW TO OPTIONS. OKAY. OUR FIRST, IS APRIL, A SPAYED FEMALE, GERMAN SHEPHERD, 8 YEARS OLD, AND WEIGHS 64 POUNDS. SHE'S A SWEET OLDER GAL THAT JUST WANTS A WARM HOME TO CALL HER OWN. SHE IS DOG FRIENDLY, HOUSE TRAINED AND KNOWS BASIC COMMANDS. ALL SHE NEEDS NOW IS FOR A FAMILY TO TAKE A CHANCE ON HER. APRIL IS UP TO DATE ON HER VACCINES AND MICROCHIPPED. ALTHOUGH, SHE IS HEARTWORM POSITIVE, APRIL'S MEDICAL WILL BE COVERED BY CLAY COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES. NEXT, WE HAVE CLEATUS, A NEUTERED MALE, WEIGHS 71 POUNDS. DO YOU HAVE A LOT OF TIME ON YOUR HANDS? ARE YOU ON OUTDOOR ENTHUSIASTS? DO YOU LIKE TO LIVE AN ACTIVE LIFESTYLE? DOES EVERYTHING IN LIFE MAKE YOU WIGGLE WITH JOY, IF SO, YOU MAY BE A MATCH MADE IN HEAVEN WITH OUR BOY CLEATUS, DOG FORGETTABLE -- DOG FRIENDLY AND UP TO DATE ON HIS VACCINES, MICROCHIPPED AND HEARTWORM NEGATIVE. OUR FIRST CAT TODAY IS CAPTAIN CRUNCH, A NEUTERED MALE, DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR AND TWO YEARS OLD. ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A CAT WITH A BIG PERSONALITY? [00:05:02] CAPTAIN CRUNCH SHOULD DEFINITELY BE YOUR TOP FIVE LIST. FOR THE MOST PART, HE IS A CALM GUY THAT WANTS ATTENTION BUT HE ALSO HAS A SPICY SIDE, WHICH MAKES HIM THAT MUCH MORE ADORABLE TO US. CAPTAIN CRUNCH IS UP TO DATE ON HIS VACCINES AND MICROCHIPPED. LASTLY, WE HAVE DUKE, A NEUTERED MALE, 3 YEARS OLD. IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AN AFFECTIONATE CAT TO SPEND YOUR EX EVENINGS WITH, THEN LOOK NO FURTHER. HE LOVES PEOPLE AND WANTS YOUR LOVE. HE'LL DO THE SAME FOR YOU. DUKE IS UP TO DATE ON HIS VACCINES AND IS MICROCHIPPED. KITTEN SEASON HAS OFFICIALLY STARTED. I GUESS IT STARTED EARLY. SO, IF YOU WANT TO JOIN OUR KITTEN CREW, WE'RE LOOKING FOR FOSTERS. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, PLEASE CONTACT US AT CLAYCOUNTYGOV.COM. LASTLY, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN HELPING OUR FURRY FRIENDS BUT YOU CAN'T BRING ONE HOME, PLEASE LOOK AT OUR AMAZON WISH LIST. WE'RE ALWAYS IN NEED OF ITEMS FOR OUR FOSTER KITTENS AND SHELTER ANIMALS. JUST GO TO AMAZON.COM AND THAT COMPLETES OUR PET ADOPTIONS. [1.  National Child Abuse Prevention Month (April 2023)] >> JOIN ME DOWN FRONT, WE HAVE PROCLAMATIONS. >> OUR FIRST PROCLAMATION THIS AFTERNOON IS NATNATIONAL CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH. APRIL IS NATIONAL CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH. IT'S A TIME TO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES WORKING TOGETHER TO PREVENT CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT. EVERYONE CAN PLAY A ROLE IN SUPPORTING FAMILIES SO THEY CAN PROVIDE A BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR OUR CHILDREN. HERE TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION IS ELIZABETH FRANCO, THE CEO OF KIDS FIRST OF FLORIDA. >> WHEREAS FLORIDA IS COMMITTED TO PROVIDING A SYSTEM OF CARE THAT PROTECTS OUR MOST VULNERABLE AND ENSURES OUR CHILDREN GROW UP SAFE, HEALTHY, EDUCATED, AND PREPARED TO REACH THEIR FULL POTENTIAL IN LIFE, WHEREAS CHILDREN HAVE BETTER MENTAL HEALTH, PHYSICAL HEALTH AND ACADEMIC SUCCESS WHEN THEY'RE RAISED IN A SAFE, STABLE, AND NURTURING ENVIRONMENT AND RESOURCES AND SUPPORT ARE BETTER EQUIPPED TO PROVIDE SAFE AND NURTURING EXPERIENCES FOR THEIR CHILDREN, AND WHEREAS THE DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES WORKS IN COLLABORATION WITH STATE AGENCIES, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROVIDERS, AND COMMUNITY-BASED CARE PROVIDERS LIKE KIDS FIRST OF FLORIDA WHICH PROVIDES CHILD WELFARE AND FOSTER CARE SERVICESES TO THE RESIDENTS OF CLAY COUNTY, AND WHEREAS THE CHILDREN OF CLAY COUNTY DESERVE TO LIVE AND GROW IN HEALTHY, NURTURING ENVIRONMENTS THAT ARE FREE FROM THREATS OF VIOLENCE, HARM AND OTHER ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EVENTS, NOW, THEREFORE, BIT RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 2023 AS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH IN CLAY COUNTY. IN DOING SO, TAKES THIS IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY TO URGE ALL CLAY COUNTY RESIDENTS TO WORK TOGETHER TO HELP PROTECT OUR CHILDREN TO CREATE STRONG AND HEALTHY COMMUNITIES DUALLY ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TODAY, THE 28TH OF MARCH. SHOULD I GET A MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. IT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. CONGRATS. OH, WE DO APPRECIATE IT, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. KIDS FIRST OF FLORIDA APPRECIATES THE SUPPORT. WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR MORE FOSTER CARE HOMES. SO, PLEASE CONSIDER US. KEEP US IN YOUR THOUGHTS AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, I'M ELIZABETH FRANCO, THE CEO. THIS IS TANYA MILLER, SHE'S THE OPERATIONS DIRECTOR. JESSICA MORRISON IS AN OPERATIONS DIRECTOR WITH CAMELOT WHICH IS A SUBCONTRACTED CASE MANAGEMENT PROVIDER AND JENNIFER CLARK, SHE'S A PROGRAM DIRECTOR. THIS IS HOLLIE, AN ADMIN ASSISTANT THAT WORKS DIRECTLY WITH ME. [00:10:02] >> VERY NICE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> IF YOU COULD COME IN FOR A PHOTO. >> OUR NEXT PROCLAMATION IS THE CLAY HIGH IRON LADIES BLUE DEVIL [2.  Clay High School Girls Weightlifting State Champions Team] WEIGHT LIFTING TEAM STATE CHAMPIONSHIP. SO, TONIGHT WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE CLAY HIGH WEIGHT LIFTING TEAM FOR THEIR CHAMPIONSHIP WIN AT THE 2023 CLASS 2A STATING WEIGHTING FINALS IN FEBRUARY. WE HAVE THE REMARKABLE YOUNG LADIES AND THEIR COACHES TO RECOGNIZE THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS. SO, WE WANT YOU TO ALL COME UP. SO, WE HAVE DAVID, OUR SUPERINTENDENT. SUCH A TREAT. JOHN, OUR COORDINATOR OF DIRECT ATHLETICS. TERRY DENNIS, COORDINATOR OF COMMUNICATIONS AND MEDIA PARTNERSHIPS, OUR WORLD-FAMS JEN HALTER WHO IS CLAY HIGH SCHOOL IMMEDIATE-PAST PRINCIPAL OF THE YEAR FOR THE WHOLE STATE OF FLORIDA. COACH RODNEY KELLER, COACH AU AUTUMN NOEL. >> WELL, I AM SO EXCITED TO GET TO READ THIS. MY DAUGHTERS GO TO SCHOOL WITH THESE LOVELY LADIES AND HAVE ALL THESE COACHES AND PRINCIPALS, SO WHAT AN HONOR. ALL RIGHT. CLAY COUNTY WISHES TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE OUTSTANDING ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE WEIGHT LIFTING TEAM LED BY COACHES FOR THEIR CHAMPIONSHIP WIN AT THE 2023 CLASS 2A STATE WEIGHTING LIFTING FINALS ON. WHEREAS TEAM MEMBERS ARE THE STRONGEST AND MOST TALENTED FEMALE WEIGHT LIFTERS IN FLORIDA AND SUCCESSFULLY DEFENDED THEIR 2022 CLASS 2A STATE CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES BACK TO CLAY COUNTY. WHEREAS, THE WEIGHT LIFTING TEAM'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE NUMEROUS TITLES AND CONSECUTIVE CLASS 2A CHAMPIONS IN BOTH WEIGHTLIFTING DISCIPLINES, TRADITIONAL AND OLYMPIC COMPETITIONS. WHEREZ W-- WHEREAS THE TEAM CONTRIBUTED TO THIS SUCCESS, SHOULD BE COMMENDED. NOW, THEREFORE, BIT RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, DOES HEREBY RECOGNIZE THE GIRLS' WEIGHT LIFTING TEAM FOR THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AT THE WEIGHT LIFTING STATE FINALS, DUALLY ADOPTED BY THE CLAY COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THIS 28TH DAY OF MARCH 2023. DO I HAVE A MOTION. SECONDED. >> ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. IT IS UNANIMOUS. VERY GOOD. YES. [APPLAUSE] ALL RIGHT. I KNOW YOU WANT TO TALK. >> COACH KELLER HERE GIVES THE MOST MOTIVATIONAL, AWESOME SPEECHES. >> WE ARE TREMENDOUSLY GRATEFUL FOR THE RECOGNITION HERE TODAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU TO OUR GIRLS WHO WERE ABLE TO SHOW UP HERE TO SUPPORT OUR TEAM AND SHOW UP TODAY. AGAIN, FOR THIS TREMENDOUS HONOR FOR YOU GUYS, AGAIN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE TIME TODAY. WITH US IS MS. STEVENS, MS. LAUREN WESTPHAL. ALSO WANT TO THANK OUR ADMINISTRATION AT CLAY HIGH SCHOOL AND OUR TREMENDOUS SUPPORT FROM THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR AND THE PRINCIPAL. THANK YOU ALL. [APPLAUSE] >> I THINK SHE SHOULD -- ERIC, CAN YOU ZOOM IN ON HIS HAND BECAUSE HE'S GOT RINGS HERE THAT ARE JUST INCREDIBLE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THOSE AT HOME. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT YOU DO FOR PRACTICE. THANK YOU, ALL. IF YOU ALL WANT TO COME IN, WE'LL GET SOME PHOTOS. [00:15:33] >> BEFORE YOU ALL LEAVE, SUPERINTENDENT BROSKI, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? OKAY. LET ME NOT TRIP THIS YOUNG LADY WITH THE MICROPHONE. OKAY. THERE WE GO. >> JUST SO THANKFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT OF OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM HERE IN CLAY COUNTY. IT REQUIRES PEOPLE THAT WORK WITHIN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, REQUIRES THE SUPPORT OF OUR PARENTS AND REQUIRES THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. VERY THANKFUL FOR THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR THIS RECOGNITION, VERY THANKFUL FOR THESE YOUNG LADIES. YOU KNOW, THE DISCIPLINE THAT'S REQUIRED TO BE A GOOD WEIGHTLIFTER, IT'S CONSTANT, WHETHER YOU WANT TO LIFT OR NOT, YOU HAVE TO IN ORDER TO BE SUCCESSFUL. SO, JUST SHOW UP. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANKS FOR HAVING US. >> OH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING. PLEASE TELL YOUR LADIES CONGRATULATIONS. >> OKAY. [3.  Water Conservation Month (April 2023)] AND OUR FINAL PROCLAMATION TODAY IS FOR WATER CONSERVATION MONTH. APRIL IS WATER CONSERVATION MONTH IN FLORIDA. THE NEED TO CONSERVE WATER IS BECOMING MORE CRITICAL ACROSS OUR GREAT STATE AND NOW IS THE PERFECT TIME TO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF PRACTICING WATER CONSERVATION MEASURES IN OUR COMMUNITIES. 2023 IS ALSO THE 25TH ANNIVERSARY OF WATER CONSERVATION MONTH IN FLORIDA. THIS YEAR'S THEME IS LEAK DETECTION TO ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES TO IDENTIFY AND REPAIR LEAKS IN WATER SYSTEMS TO PREVENT WATER LOSS. HERE TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION THIS AFTERNOON, PLEASE JOIN US UP FRONT, WE HAVE DOUG, INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATOR, ST. JOHNS RIVER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, TED CLARK. DID TED MAKE IT? THERE HE IS. TED CLARK, CHAIR OF CLAY SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT AND HAVE MEMBERS OF THE SAVE OUR LAKES ORGANIZATION. SO, I PUT OUT A RED SHIRT ALERT AND LEFT MY RED JACKET IN THE CAR. IF YOU ALL WOULD COME UP AND JOIN US FOR THE WATER PROCLAMATION. PLEASE BRING THEM ON UP. I NOTICED THEM, TOO. AND THEN, ALSO -- AND I'LL LET YOU INTRODUCE THEM. THEN, ALSO, CHAIRMAN BRADLEY WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN WITH US THIS AFTERNOON. HE'S CHAIRMAN OF THE ST. JOHNS RIVER MANAGEMENT DISTRICTBOARD AND HE ENDED UP WITH A LAST-MINUTE CONFLICT. HE SENDS HIS REGARDS. IF YOU ALL WILL COME ON UP. WHEREAS, MORE THAN 90% OF FLORIDA'S DRINKING WATER IS SUPPLIED BY UNDERLYING QUACK WHICHFERS AND OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND ECONOMY DEPEND ON A RELIABLE, CLEAN, AND AVAILABLE SUPPLY OF WATER WITH; WHEREAS THE ST. JOHNS RIVER DISTRICT IN CLAY COUNTY ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO INCREASE AWARENESS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF WATER CONSERVATION; AND WHEREAS THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS DESIGNATED APRIL, TYPICALLY A DRY MONTH WHEN WATER DEMANDS ARE HIGH, AS FLORIDA'S WATER CONSERVATION MONTH TO ENCOURAGE AND EDUCATE CITIZENS ABOUT HOW THEY CAN HELP SAVE FLORIDA'S PRECIOUS WATER RESOURCES; AND WHEREAS EVERY BUSINESS, INDUSTRY, SCHOOL, AND RESIDENT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHEN IT COMES TO CONSERVING WATER; AND WHEREAS, IRRIGATION IS OFTEN THE BIGGEST USE OF WTER AND FOLLOWING SIMPLE WATER CONSERVATION MEASURES, SUCH AS MAKING SURE AUTOMATIC SPRINKLER SYSTEMS ARE FUNCTIONING PROPERLY, FOLLOWING WATER RESTRICTIONS, USING A RAIN SENSOR, REPAIRING SPRINKLER HEADS AND REPAIRING LEAKS OR CLOGS CAN MAKE A CONSIDERABLE IMPACT ON OUR WATER SUPPLY; AND WHEREAS, LEAK PREVENTION IS COMMONLY THOUGHT TO BE THE FIRST STEP IN CONSERVING WATER AND FOR THIS THE 25TH YEAR OF WATER CONSERVATION MONTH, THERE WILL BE A SPECIAL FOCUS ON ENCOURAGING ALL RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES TO FIX LEAKS IN WATER SYSTEMS TO PREVENT WATER LOSS. NOW, THEREFORE, BIT RESOLVED, THE BOARD OF COUNTY [00:20:02] COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 2023 AS WATER CONSERVATION MONTH IN CLAY COUNTY AND IN, IN DOING SO, COMMENDS THE ST. JOHNS WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND OTHERS FOR THEIR EFFORTS TO ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES ABOUT THE NEED TO CONSERVE WATER AND HELP PROTECT OUR WATER SUPPLY BY PRACTICING WATER-SAVING MEASURES DUALLY ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, THIS 28TH DAY OF MARCH, 2023. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? WE HAVE A MOTION. A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. >> AYE. OF COURSE, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE HAVE TWO COPIES OF THE PROCLAMATION. WE CAN GET MORE. I WANTED TO PASS THE MICROPHONE AND LET YOU ALL SAY SOMETHING. WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA LATER IN THE PROGRAM, TERESA, IF YOU CAN DO IT NOW, IF ANYONE CAN SEE A TV SCREEN, WE WANT TO SHOW YOU A [Black Creek Project Video] SHORT LITTLE VIDEO THAT THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT HAS DONE TO SHOW YOU THE PROGRESS ON THE BLACK CREEK PROJECT, WHICH IS ABOUT CONSERVING WATER AND PROTECTING FLORIDA'S WATER SUPPLY BY RECHARGE OF THE AQUIFER AND PREVENTING FLOODING IN BLACK CREEK. IF YOU CAN WATCH THIS BEFORE HE GIVES US A FEW WORDS. ♪ FOLLOWING THE STATE CHAMPIONS IS ALWAYS A TOUGH ACT. THAT'S FANTASTIC. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS PROCLAMATION. IT IS THE 25TH ANNIVERSARY DEGENERATING APRIL AS THE WATER CONSERVATION FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA. LEAK DETECTION IS THE THEME. EVERY MONTH SHOULD BE WAWATER CONSERVATION MONTH. LET'S RECOGNIZE THAT THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD'S LEAKS WILL PROBABLY ACCOUNT FOR OVER 10,000 GALLONS OF WATER WASTED IN A YEAR. 10% OF THOSE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLDS WILL PROBABLY ACCOUNT FOR 90 GALLONS A DAY WASTED. THE GOOD NEWS IS, THOSE LEAKS ARE EASILY CORRECTIBLE AND 10% SAVINGS ON YOUR WATER BILL IF YOU DO FIX THOSE. THEN YOU ENJOY TIME IN THE YARD WHERE OVER 50% OF THE WATER IS USED IS BEING USED OUTSIDE IN OUR IRRIGATION SYSTEMS. RECOGNIZE THAT A 1/32 OF AN INCH LEAK IN YOUR SYSTEM CAN ACCOUNT FOR ABOUT 6300 GALLONS OF WATER WASTED IN A MONTH. SO, THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS FOR US TO SAVE ON OUR WATER, AND IT'S ESSENTIAL BECAUSE WATER CONSERVATION IS THE PREMIER ACTIVITY WE WILL UNDERTAKE TO SUSTAIN OUR WATER SUPPLIES. YOU KNOW, OVERALL, THE BLACK CREEK PROJECT IS ESSENTIAL IN RECHARGING OUR AQUIFER, WHICH IS A KEY, INEXPENSIVE WATER SUPPLY, WHICH IS THE CRITICAL FACTOR. I WANT TO THANK THE CLAY COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THE STAFF FOR THEIR CONTINUED EXCELLENCE FOR WATER CONSERVATION. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THEM AS A GREAT PARTNER IN THIS TRIP AND MANY THINGS THEY DO AS THE LEADER IN THE INDUSTRY AND WORKING WITH THE SOIL AND WATER FOLKS AND, OBVIOUSLY, VIVIAN IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF CITIZEN PARTICIPATION LEADING TO GREAT THINGS IN TERMS OF WATER SUPPLY, WATER CONSERVATION. SO, YOU ARE A SHINING EXAMPLE FOR US ALL TO FOLLOW. WITH THAT, I WILL PASS THE MIC TO -- >> JEREMY. >> WELL, ON BEHALF OF OUR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE ENTIRE [00:25:05] TEAM, I WANT TO EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION AND GRATITUDE TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION FOR ALLOWING US TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCLAMATION AND THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN STAKEHOLDERS. IT TAKES A WHOLE COMMUNITY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING WATER USE AND WATER CONSERVATION. I JUST WANT TO SHARE A FEW STATISTICS FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE. WE DO HAVE AN ACTIVE LEAK DETECTION PROGRAM. IT'S CALLED CONSERVING CLAY. WE DO HAVE AN AUTOMATED SYSTEM. SO, WHEN SOMEONE'S METER'S RUNNING CONTINUOUSLY, IT GETS FLAGGED, AND WE REACH OUT TO THEM. SINCE 2014, WE HAVE CONTACTED NEARLY 27,000 CUSTOMERS, AND THAT HAS SAVED AN ESTIMATED 332 MILLION GALLONS IN THAT LEAK DETECTION PROGRAM. WE'RE MAKING FURTHER INVESTMENTS IN THAT WHERE CUSTOMERS WILL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SET THEIR OWN ALARMS AND MANAGE THEIR OWN WATER USE. OUR 12-MONTH PER CAPITA WATER USE AMONGST OUR CUSTOMERS IS 66 GALLONS PER DAY. YOU LOOK ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND IN THE REGION -- THE SOUTHEAST REGION, THAT'S A VERY LOW NUMBER. WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT. ROUGHLY A THIRD OF OUR CUSTOMERS HAVE ACCESS AND USE RECLAIMED WATER FOR IRRIGAION PURPOSES. THAT IS A VERY ROBUST RECLAIM SYSTEM. SO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THE ZERO SURFACE WATER DISCHARGE THAT'S AIMED AT THE BENEFICIAL USE OF RECLAIMED WATER, WE WILL FULLY COMPLY WITH THOSE REGULATES BEFORE THOSE DEADLINES AND THAT'S ANOTHER ITEM WERE VERY PROUD OF. I WANT TO EXPRESS THE APPRECIATION FOR LEADING THE BLACK CREEK WATER RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT. WE THINK THAT IS A HUGE PROJECT AND BENEFIT FOR THE ENTIRE REGION, AND WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THAT IS A MODEL FOR THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE NEEDED TO ADDRESS WATER RESOURCE CHALLENGES ELSEWHERE IN THE REGION. SO, WE'RE HOPEFUL FOR THOSE TO CONTINUE ON AS A MODEL MOVING FORWARD. >> I PROMISE I WILL ONLY TAKE TWO MINUTES, SO PLEASE REMIND ME WHEN IT'S 30 MINUTES OUT. I'LL INTRODUCE MYSELF. I'M TED CLARK. I'M THE CHAIR OF THE CLAY AND SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT. I HAVE MY VICE-CHAIR WITH ME, WES TAYLOR. OUR THREE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS COULD NOT MAKE IT. BUT FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW ABOUT US, WE'RE AN ELECTED SPECIAL DISTRICT BOARD. ANYBODY IN CLAY COUNTY VOTES FOR US. WE ARE PRETTY MUCH YOUR VOICE WHEN IT COMES TO SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION CONCERNS. WE DO MEET SECOND FRIDAYS AT 9:00 A.M. AT THE CLAY KF EXTENSION CENTER AND YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO REACH OUT TO US. AT CLAYSOILANDWATER.ORG. I'LL TRY TO GIVE OUR DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES IN A NUTSHELL. WE ARE MORE HERE TO, ONCE AGAIN CONSERVATION PRACTICES AND BE A VOICE FOR CITIZENS. WE'VE BEEN BLESSED TO HAVE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE WATER MNAGEMENT DISTRICT. THERE ARE A LOT OF STATES OUT THERE THAT DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF PARTNERSHIP IN THE SOIL AND WATER DISTRICTS ARE THE CITIZENS' VOICES. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH US IN A NUTSHELL. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO US. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] >> I'M VIVIAN JAMES, PRESIDENT OF THE SAVE OUR LAKES ORGANIZATION. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT SAY. I'LL START WITH CCUA. I USE CCUA AS THE POSTER CHILD FOR UTILITIES, AND, BELIEVE ME, THERE ARE MANY OF THEM I WOULDN'T PUT ON A POSTER, OR MAYBE I WOULD, MOST WANTED. THEY'RE AHEAD OF THE GAME AND DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR DECADES. THANK YOU. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE ST. JOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS 14 YEARS. THEY'VE NOT ALWAYS BEEN A TEAM MEMBER, BUT THEY ARE NOW AND THEY HAVE BEEN FOR SOME TIME FROM THEIRBOARD -- THEIR BOARD TO THEIR STAFF LEVEL. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY THAT MY FAVORITE -- THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE WAY TO SAY IT, BUT MY FAVORITE, SENATOR BRADLEY, AND I REALLY LIKE THE CURRENT ONE, BUT HE WAS MY FIRST FAVORITE SENATOR BRADLEY, HE IS THE STORMTROOPER ON THIS BLACK CREEK PROJECT. [00:30:02] IT'S A WATER RECHARGE PROJECTS. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, OUR COMMUNITY, KEYSTONE HEIGHTS IS ONE OF THE TWO MAJOR RECHARGE AREAS FOR THE FLORIDA AQUIFER, YOUR DRINKING WATER AND MINE. SO, THIS PROJECT IS HUGE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT A NOW-DECEASED ASSISTANT EXEC AT THE WATER DISTRICT TOLD ME, VIVIAN, HE SAID, THE ONLY WAY YOU WILL SOLVE THIS ISSUE WITH WATER IS TO BRING IN NEW WATER. BECAUSE THERE'S RAIN, AND WE CAN USE THE RAIN. BUT WE'VE GOT SO MUCH POPULATION NOW THAT WE HAVE TO REALLY DO MANY THINGS. CONSERVATION FIRST AND FOREMOST, THAT'S THE CHEAPEST WAY TO GO. BT THE BLACK CREEK PROJECT IS BRINGING IN NEW WATER IN A GOOD WAY. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE. CHANDLER ROSIER AND THANK YOU. BETSY CONDON IS A VERY, VERY, VERY GOOD TEAM LEADER. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> COME IN CLOSE FOR PICTURES. (TAKING PICTURES). >> THANK YOU >> THANK YOU. >> WHILE OUR COMMISSIONERS ARE [JTA Transportation Study] GETTING BACK INTO THEIR SEATS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR PRESENTATION TODAY FROM JTA. >> MADAM CHAIR, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS GIVING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR JTA TO PRESENT THEIR PRESENTATION ON OUR STUDY THAT WE DID. IF YOU REMEMBER CORRECTLY, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, WE ENGAGED WITH JTA TO DO A COOPERATIVE STUDY ON TRANSPORTATION IN THE COUNTY. AND TODAY'S KIND OF THE CULMINATION OF THAT FIRST STEP. HERE'S THE PLAN. WITH NO FURTHER ADO, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THEM TO INTRODUCE THE TEAM. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS, COUNTY MANAGER. GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY. I THINK THE LAST TIME THAT MOST OF US WERE TOGETHER WAS ON A WINDSHIELD TOUR, DRIVING AROUND AND LOOKING AT THE CONDITION OF TRANSPORTATION. SO, A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THAT TIME. SO, WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE. I'M NOT GOING TO BE TOO LONG, BUT I DO WANT TO READ A LETTER FROM OUR CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER INTO THE RECORD. YOU HAVE A COPY OF THIS IN YOUR P PACKET. I WILL READ THE LETTER FIRST. DEAR CHAIR CONDON, IT'S WITH GREAT ENTHUSIASM THAT THE JACKSONVILLE TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY STANDS TODAY BEFORE YOU TO PRESENT THE CLAY COUNTY TRANSPORTATION STUDY. I SINCERELY REGRET NOT BEING ABLE TO BE IN PERSON FOR THIS VERY IMPORTANT PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION. I HOPE YOU RECEIVE THIS LETTER AS EVIDENCE OF THE STRONG COMMITMENT THAT WE AT THE JTA HAVE FOR CLAY COUNTY AND OUR COMBINED GOALS TO SEE YOUR TRANSPORTATION NETWORK CONTINUE TO GROW AND PROSPER. THE JTA REGARDS OUR PARTNERSHIP IN HIGH HONOR. AND, AS SUCH, WE TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF PROVIDING TRANSPORTATION SERVICES IN CLAY COUNTY AS A TOPMOST PRIORITY. WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE SERVICES PROVIDED ARE ESSENTIAL TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR YOUR COMMUNITY. THIS PARTNERSHIP HAS PROCESS PPEED DUE TO OUR MUTUAL RESPECT AND TRUST. WE AT THE JTA HAS GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND TO EXCEED THE EXPECTATIONS OF YOUR COMMUNITY. THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS APPROVED A NEW FIVE-YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN ENTITLED "MOBILITY OPTIMIZATION THROUGH VISION AND EXCELLENCE [00:35:06] 2027." THIS STRATEGIC PLAN ESTABLISHES THE FRAMEWORK FOR JTA TO CONTINUE ITS JOURNEY TO BECOME A HOLISTIC, MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION AGENCY, PROVIDING SEAMLESS MOBILITY SOLUTIONS TO ALL OF NORTHEAST FLORIDA. THE VISION THAT MOVE 2027 SETS IS BASED ON SEVEN KEY INITIATIVES, TWO OF WHICH ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN THIS STUDY, TRANSIT WORKS AND REGIONAL WORKS. I TRUST YOU WILL BE SATISFIED WITH THE WORK PERFORMED TO DATE FOR THE COUNTY. MY TEAM ENSURED THAT THE STUDY TEAM COLLECTED AND ANALYZE DATA TO PROVIDE SOUND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHICH THEY WILL BE REVIEWING THIS EVENING. HOWEVER, I KNOW MUCH DISCUSSION WILL ARISE AND FURTHER MEETINGS WILL LIKELY OCCUR. LET ME STATE AGAIN FORWARD THIS STUDY AND OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY IS A PRIORIY FOR US. WE WILL CONTINUE TO PLAN COMPUTE ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS. I LOOK FORWARD TO DISCUSS NEXT STEPS FOR THIS STUDY. AND I'M EXCITED TO SHARE IN BUILDING A STRONGER PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION NETWORK FOR CLAY COUNTY. SINCERELY NATHANIAL P. FORD. MR. FORD WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE BEEN HERE TONIGHT, COULD NOT BE. WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE. IF I COULD, I WANT TO INTRODUCE THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS STUDY, JEREMY. JEREMY HAS LED THIS. HE'S DONE AN AMAZING JOB. HE'S BEEN EVERY STEP OF THE WAY, AND VERY INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE REALLY THANKFUL HE'S ON OUR TEAM AND WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIM HERE TODAY. GOOD JOB, JEREMY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO THANK ALL OF THE JTA EMPLOYEES. THERE'S LITERALLY AN ARMY OF PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING ON YOUR BEHALF, ALL AS PUBLIC SERVANTS TO HELP THE COMMUNITY TO GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO ALLOW YOU TO SEE THE RESULTS OF THIS PARTICULAR STUDY. WITH THAT, ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE OUR LEAD CONSULTANT TOM MCVAY WHAT WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION STUDY AND THEN OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. >> YOU ALL DO HAVE A COPY OF BOTH THE POWERPOINT AND THE ONE-PAGER. JUST FOR TOM'S REFERENCE, THEY RECEIVED THAT EARLIER, AND THEY HAVE IT AVAILABLE. >> THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE FINDINGS OF THE STUDY WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON. I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL THE FOLKS AT JTA THAT CHARLES MENTIONED AND TROY AND HIS STAFF THAT WORKED HAND IN HAND WITH US OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS. SO, LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET THIS TO WORK. >> IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND MOVING THAT MIC UP A LITTLE BIT, TOO, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. THANK YOU. >> YES. >> IS THAT BETTER? >> YES, IT'S PERFECT. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. SO, OUR AGENDA FOR THE PRESENTATION IS WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT, DISCUSS SOME OF THE KEY FINDINGS FROM ALL THE ANALYSIS WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THE THAT ANALYSIS, GO OVER AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AND A MONITORING PLAN TO ENSURE THE SUCCESS OF THE FUTURE OF THE TRANSPORTATION. UM, SO, THE PRIMARY PURPOSE, OF COURSE, OF THE STUDY IS TO UPDATE THE CLAY COUNTY TRANSPORTATION PLAN. THIS IS AN UPDATE TO A STUDY DONE BACK IN 2018. PRIMARY PURPOSE IS TO ADDRESS THE COUNTY'S CHANGING CONDITIONS AND TRANSIT NEEDS AS THE COUNTY GROWS TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE TRANSIT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. SO, THE KEY OUTCOMES OF THE STUDY ARE TO DEVELOP A SYSTEM-WIDE VISION FOR CLAY COUNTY AND ALSO THE CONNECTIVITY OF THE COUNTY SYSTEMS TO THE REGION AS WELL. SO, TO GET THERE, WE PERFORMED A COMPREHENSIVE OPERATIONAL ANALYSIS OF THE CURRENT SYSTEM, AND THEN WE CAME UP WITH SOME RECOMMENDED SERVICE FRAMEWORK IMPROVEMENTS, AND WE'VE PUT THOSE TOGETHER IN A NEAR MID-RANGE ACTION PLAN, ALONG WITH COSTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS AS FAR AS SERVICE IMPROVEMENTS. THIS SLIDE ILLUSTRATES THE COMPONENTS OF THE STUDY THAT WE FOLLOWED. WE STARTED BACK IN OCTOBER. WE INITIATED A PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT CAMPAIGN THAT INCLUDED EXTENSIVE SURVEYS. WE ALSO ASSEMBLED A LOT OF DATA, MOST CURRENT CENSUS DATA, DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION AND ASSEMBLED ALL THAT INFORMATION BASICALLY USING A GIS PLATFORM AND USED FUTURE PROJECTIONS TO DETERMINE WHERE THE FUTURE POPULATION TRENDS WILL BE. THEN, AS I SAID, WE CONDUCTED A [00:40:03] DETAILED OPERATIONAL ANALYSIS OF THE EXISTING SYSTEM AND ALSO LOOKED AT DIFFERENT SCENARIOS FOR IMPROVEMENTS IN THE FUTURE AS WELL. SO, WE USED THAT TO DEVELOP A SERVICE FRAMEWORK, ULTIMATELY, TO GET TO A RECOMMENDED TRANSIT NETWORK AND AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, AND THIS WILL ALL BE INCORPORATED INTO A DOCUMENT. WE DEVELOPED A DRAFT OF THAT DOCUMENT. THAT DOCUMENT WILL BE FINALIZED AFTER THIS MEETING OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, AFTER WE RECEIVE YOUR INPUT. SO, I WANT TO WALK THROUGH -- OOPS, I WENT BACKWARDS. SO, THIS IS JUST AN IDEAL OF SOME OF THE COMPLETED PROJECT ELEMENTS. WE HAD A ROBUST PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PLAN. I MENTIONED THE DATA ANALYSIS, DEMOGRAPHIC, ECONOMIC ANALYSIS, LOOKED AT LAND USE AND TRANSIT, TECHNOLOGY. THEN THE OPERATIONAL ANALYSIS, WE LOOKED AT RIDERSHIP TRENDS, MAINTENANCE NEEDS AND OTHERS. WE HAD A ROBUST PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PLAN, STARTED BACK IN NOVEMBER. WE HAD HYBRID PUBLIC MEETINGS, ONE IN EACH DISTRICT, PLUS TWO IN DISTRICT FOUR. IN ADDITION, WE HAD MEETINGS WITH KEY STAKEHOLDERS, AND WE HAD A COUPLE OF FOCUSED MEETINGS WITH FOLKS AT COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE AND THE CLAY SAFETY ALLIANCE. THAT WAS A GREAT MEETING WE HAD WITH THE ALLIANCE. WE HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM VARIOUS NONPROFITS. I THINK WE HAD 45 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE. WE GOT A LOT OF REALLY GOOD INPUT AND FEEDBACK FROM THAT GROUP THAT WE FEEL WILL REALLY HELP DEVELOP A BETTER TRANSIT NETWORK. I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO BEV DAVIS. I WANT TO INTRODUCE OUR TEAM. BEV DAVIS IS A SENIOR PLANNERS THAT WORK WITH US. WE HAVE MANY OTHERS THAT WORK WITH US AS WELL ON THE STUDY. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THEM. >> THANK YOU. >> I WANTED -- IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? >> YEAH. >> OKAY. I WANTED TO GO OVER SOME OF THE KEY FINDINGS OF THE STUDY AND THOSE CAME FROM THE COMPONENTS OF THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT WAS THE NEED FOR IMPROVED EDUCATION AND MARKETING FOR THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE TRANSIT SYSTEM. AND, ALSO, FOCUSED ON THE PUBLIC'S PERCEPTION AND THE PUBLIC NEED FOR EXPANDED SERVICE HOURS AND INCREASED EFFICIENCY, MORE OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY ON THE SERVICE. UM, WE DID LOOK AT THE EXISTING AND THE FUTURE CONDITIONS. UM, WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT THE TRIP ATTRACTORS ARE PRIMARILY FOCUSED IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE COUNTY AND REGIONAL NEED FOR TRAVEL. IN LOOKING AT THE OPERATIONAL SIDE OF THINGS, WE LOOKED AT EACH ROUTE INDIVIDUALLY TO IDENTIFY THE RIDERSHIP, LOOKED AT LEVEL OF SERVICE, FREQUENCY, STOP ACCESSIBILITY AND FOUND THAT'S REALLY NOT MEETING THE EXPECTED OR THE CURRENT DEMAND FOR THAT SERVICE. THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS -- CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE WANTED TO BRING INTO THE STUDY. ONE OF WHICH WAS REGIONAL MOBILITY HUBS. THERE'S AN EXISTING HUB AT BLACK CREEK. AND, ALSO, TWO PROPOSED HUBS AT ORANGE PARK MALL AND MIDDLEBURG. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THOSE WERE IN THE STUDY. OTHER ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS WERE ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH COULD CHANGE THE COMPLEXITY OF THE TRAVEL PATTERNS WITH THE CLAY COUNTY TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM, AS WELL AS THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY, LOOKING AT OPTIMIZING THE DEMAND RESPONSE. THE COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE AND ACCESS TO THE VA CLINIC. TOM MENTIONED AHEIGHTS AND LOOKING AT DEMAND VERSUS THE DENSITY AND THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT TOM ALSO MENTIONED WERE A KEY ELEMENT. SO, IN DEVELOPING THE SERVICE FRAMEWORK, WE REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS ON THE COMPONENTS OF GEOGRAPHY, WHERE'S THE SERVICE NEEDED? AND IS IT FEASIBLE TO GET IT THERE? USER GROUPS. WHO ARE WE TRYING TO SERVE? MODE. WHAT MODE OF TRANSIT BEST SUITS THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND GOALS OF THE COMMUNITY AND THEN THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES. WHAT FUNDING IS AVAILABLE. AND HOW CAN THAT BE USED. ALL OF THAT WAS COMBINED INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE TRANSIT SERVICE'S OVERALL STRATEGY. SO, THOSE STRATEGIES INCLUDED A SHORT, MID, AND LONG-TERM RECOMMENDATION, REALLY TRYING TO OPTIMIZE THE PERFORMANCE OF THE SYSTEM, EXPANDING THE SERVICE TO MEET DEMAND, AND ENHANCING THAT OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY AND ACCESSIBILITY. IF YOU NOTE, THE BLUE GRAPHIC ON THE BOTTOM, UM, THAT IS A GEOGRAPHY-BASED MODEL, WHICH [00:45:02] CLAY COUNTY CURRENTLY OPERATES. IT SERVES A BROAD GEOGRAPHIC AREA BUT HAS LOWER SERVICE. THE TOP ONE ON THE -- IN THE RED IS A FREQUENCY-BASED MODEL, WHERE THE TRANSIT SERVICE OPERATES MORE FREQUENTLY AND BETTER SERVES THOSE AREAS WITH HIGH DEMAND AND HIGH RIDERSHIP. SO, AS I MENTIONED, THE AREA OF THE NORTHEAST PART OF THE COUNTY IS REALLY WHERE A LOT OF THE CONSE CONCENTRATION IS. IT SHOWS THE MAJOR ACTIVITY CENTERS LOCATED IN THAT AREA. THE TRANSIT BOARDINGS AND ALININGS ARE CONCENTRATED THERE IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE COUNTY. IN DEVELOPING THE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE LOOKED AT SHORT-TERM RECOMMENDATIONS. THAT'S ZERO TO TWO YEARS, WHERE WE REALLY WANTED TO LOOK AT INVESTING IN TECHNOLOGY, EVALUATING CONTRACTS, AND ADOPTING THOSE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICES SO WE CAN MONITOR THE SYSTEM AS IT GOES FORWARD. THE TRANSIT NETWORK PHASE ONE LOOKED AT REROUTING, AGAIN, LOOKING AT ALL THE ROUTES, BEGIN REVIEW OF THE TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, AND PERFORM A SITE SELECTION ANALYSIS IN LINE WITH THOSE REGIONAL MOBILITY HUBS. THE MIDTERM RECOMMENDATIONS NICOLA -- FOCUSED ON TWO TO FIVE YEARS, MONITORING THE DATA AT THE STOP AND SEGMENT LEVEL, CONTINUING THAT PUBLIC INFORMATION AND EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN. ON THE OPERATIONALS SIDE, PERFORMING A BUS STOP IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM TO IDENTIFY BUS STOPS THAT ARE IN NEED OF IMPROVEMENTS AND IDENTIFYING THOSE AMENITIES THAT NEED TO GO WITH THOSE TYPES OF BUS STOPS. AND THEN CONTINUING TO ADVANCE THAT REGIONAL MOBILITY HUB INITIATIVE. THE LONGER-TERM RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH FOCUSES ON 5-20 YEARS, AGAIN, PULLS IN AN ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE HOW THE CHANGES TO THE SYSTEM ARE OPERATING. ARE THEY MEETING THE EXPECTED NEEDS? DO CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE? CONTINUING THAT PUBLIC AND MARKETING INFORMATION CAMPAIGN AND, ALSO, CONTINUING WITH THE BUS STOP IMPROVEMENT -- IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS. UM, ALSO LOOKING AT ESTABLISHING VEHICLE PROPULSION RECOMMENDATIONS AND, AGAIN, CONTINUING TO ADVANCE THAT REGIONAL MOBILITY HUB -- INITIATIVE. SO, THE SHORT-RANGE RECOMMENDATIONS REALLY FOCUS ON INCREASING SERVICE IN THOSE HIGH TRANSIT PROPENSITY AREAS AND IMPROVING ROUTE AND TRANSFER SERVICE. AND THAT DOES REALIGN BUS STOPS SO THAT USERS HAVE A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO ACCESS AND A SAFER OPPORTUNITY TO ACCESS STOPS, BOTH FOR INBOUND AND OUTBOUND SERVICE. THE MID-RANGE RECOMMENDATIONS FOCUS ON TO IMPLEMENTATION OF TWO NEW FLEX ROUTES AND EXPANDED SERVICES HOURS FROM 5:30 A.M. TO 7:30 A.M. AND INCREASING STOPS AND ALLOWING THEM FOR GOOD USER ACCESS. ON-DEMAND RECOMMENDATIONS FOCUSED ON OPTIMIZING THE SERVICE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING -- OR THAT IS SERVICE IS PROVIDING -- PROVIDING THE SERVICES NEEDED FOR THE TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED POPULATIONS, AS WELL AS THE ELDERLY. AND, ALSO, INCLUDING A NEW PASSENGER TRACKING SYSTEM TO IMPROVE THE PASSENGER DATA PRIVACY AND THAT WILL ALSO INCREASE EFFICIENCY. >> SO, WE WANTED TO LOOK AT WHAT THE BENEFITS WERE FROM THE SHORT-RANGE NETWORK, AS WELL AS THE MID-RANGE NETWORK, AND THAT INCLUDES INCREASED RIDERSHIP, LOWER TRAVEL TIME, LOWER LAY OVERTIME, AND BETTER ACCESS FOR THE WORKING POPULATION TO TRANSIT SERVICES. WE ALSO PUT TOGETHER AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AND A SCHEDULE, AND IT'S A VERY DETAILED PLAN THAT INCLUDES THE STENOSIS AND EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AT THOSE MILESTONES IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS. SO, WE ALSO LOOKED AT COST. SO, THE 2023 COSTS REMAIN THE SAME EXCEPT FOR A RECOMMENDED IMPROVED MARKETING AND EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN. THE 2024 COSTS INCLUDE THOSE SHORT-TERM RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT WE ALSO DID TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. ONE THAT INCLUDED ADDITIONAL EVENING SERVICE, AND IDENTIFIED THE COSTS FOR THAT -- FOR THAT ADDITIONAL SERVICE. AS WELL AS, A PROPOSED ADDITIONAL WEEKEND SERVICE. AND IN 2025, THAT MAINTAINS THE OPTIMIZATION RECOMMENDATIONS AND [00:50:05] ALSO INCLUDES CAPITAL PURCHASES TO PREPARE FOR THE ADDITIONAL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SERVICE. I'D ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT IN 2025, IF FDOT GRANT PROGRAMS WILL SUN SET. 2026 AND 2027 SHOW AN INCREASE IN LOCAL CONTRIBUTION, BUT THAT IS DUE TO THAT LACK OF FDOT FUNDING. JTA AND CLAY COUNTY CAN WORK TOGETHER TO OBTAIN ADDITIONAL FUNDING WHICH WOULD LOWER THE LOCAL MATCH. MONITORING IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, AND THERE ARE TWO COMPONENTS FOR A MONITORING PROCESS. THE FIRST IS A MONITORING CYCLE, AND THAT HAS TO BE CROSS-REFERENCED WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. UM, IDENTIFYING THE PERFORMANCE THRESHOLDS THAT NEED TO BE -- THAT NEED TO BE IDENTIFIED, UM, COLLECTING WITH DATA AND REPORTING BACK ON THOSE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED. THE OVERALL MONITORING SYSTEM IS A QUANTITATIVE APPROACH THAT'S BASED ON THAT DATA COLLECTED AND THOSE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS, AS WELL AS A QUALITATIVE APPROACH TO GET THE RIDER'S PERCEPTION ABOUT HOW THE SERVICE IS PERFORMING, AND ALL OF THAT GOES INTO THE EVALUATION OF THE SERVICE. SO, OUR NEXT STEPS: WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING COMMENTS WE'VE RECEIVED AND THEN FINALIZING THE PLAN. SO, WITH THAT, I THINK WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MAY HAVE. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE ONE. >> TURN ON YOUR MIC. >> WE TALK ABOUT HEADWAY, WHAT IS HEADWAY MINUS 13%? >> THAT MEANS THE LONGER THE BUSES TAKE TO GO FROM POINT TO POINT, UM, SO THAT LOWERS THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THE BUSES ARE GOING TO FROM STOP A TO STOP B. >> OKAY. >> SO, IT MEANS THE SYSTEM'S RUNNING QUICKER. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> YES. >> THE GREEN SHORT-RANGE RECOMMENDATION OF GREEN ROUTES, SERVICE ENDS IN GREEN COVE. IS THAT THE SAME TIME AS THE BLUE ROUTE? IT DOESN'T SAY WHEN IT ENDS. >> UM, I THINK I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO -- [INDISCERNIBLE] >> YES. THE SLIDE DOESN'T READ LEFT TO RIGHT. IT'S, BASICALLY, TO COLUMNS OF DATA. GO BACK. >> YES. >> THAT ONE RIGHT THERE. >> YES. YES. IT IS. YOU'RE RIGHT. THE ROUTE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, AND THEN THE ACTUAL SERVICE RECOMMENDS ARE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE. >> I THINK IT WOULD BE FAIR TO SAY, COMMISSIONER BURKE, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE SERVICE HOURS OF ALL FOUR ROUTES WOULD BE 6:30 A.M. TO 6:30 P.M., WHICH IS WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE AS WE LOOK TO MODIFY WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. >> SO, IS THERE NOT A ROUTE THAT WOULD TWO TO THE VA ANY MORE? BECAUSE THE CURRENT GREEN ROUTE TURNS AT 218 AND GOES TO COLLEGE DRIVE. >> WE'LL STILL HAVE A ROUTE SERVICE IN THE VA. I THINK THE CHANGE WITH THAT IS THAT THE BLUE ROUTE -- >> COULD YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIC. >> THE BLUE ROUTE WOULD NO LONGER DO THAT ROUTE. IT WOULD BE FULLY SERVICED BY THE GREEN ROUTE. >> WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE DATA, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAP BETWEEN THE GREEN AND BLUE ROUTE. >> RIGHT. >> INSTEAD OF CONTINUING THAT OVERLAP, THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT THE GREEN ROUTE STOPS IN GREEN COVE, THE BLUE ROUTE STOPS IN GREEN COVE, A BUS TRANSFER INCREASING YOUR FREQUENCY OF TRIPS IN BOTH OF THOSE AREAS. >> RIGHT. >> IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GO TO IMPLEMENTING ISLAND FROM COLLEGE DRIVE TO SOME PLACE, THAT BUS ROUTE WOULD HAPPEN FASTER? >> RIGHT. >> IT SPEAKS BACK TO THE HEADWAY YOU WERE REFERENCING. THEY WON'T HAVE TO BE WAITING AN HOUR FOR THAT BUS TO LOOP AND COME BACK. IT WOULD BE 30 MINUTES. >> DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >> I THINK SO. >> I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT I'M SURE YOU WILL COME AND TALK AT OUR TD BOARD MEETING. MY QUESTIONS ARE ABOUT THE COMBINATION. I WON'T TAKE THE TIME. I'M JUST INTERESTED IN YOUR -- IN HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THAT AND HOPEFULLY Y'ALL ARE TAKING THE MANAGEMENT OF IT AND -- >> ABSOLUTELY. >> IF I MAY MAKE A SUGGESTION. BECAUSE THERE ARE CONTRACTUAL CONSIDERATIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE SOONER THAN YOUR NEXT TD [00:55:01] MEETING, I KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE TIME, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE THAT WE AT LEAST HAD A PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION TODAY. >> OH, SURE. >> BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING YOU FOR DIRECTION ON THAT TD A LITTLE BIT. JUST BECAUSE THERE'S SOME CONTRACTUAL THINGS THAT HAPPEN WITH AGING TRUE AND JTA AND OURSELVES THAT WE MAY HAVE TO WORK OUT DEPENDING ON THE OVERALL DIRECTION THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO GO. I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO TAKE ON THE -- THE SENIOR PART OF THAT, NOT THAT AGING TRUE HASN'T DONE WELL, BUT IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S THE WAY THE CONTRACT COMPANY IS BILLING AGING TRUE WHO IS BILLING US. WE FREQUENCILY RUN OUT OF MONEY. THERE CAN BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MAXIMIZATION. SENIORS WOULD RATHER RIDE WITH THEIR FRIENDS. IF Y'ALL CAN FIGURE OUT A ROUTE FOR THAT AND TO BILL, IT JUST SEEMED LIKE IT MADE MORE SENSE FROM THE PERSPECTIVE. >> SO, OUR RECOMMENDATION, IF YOU WANT ME TO, ON THE ONE-PAGER, AT THE VERY BOTTOM, WE TALKED ABOUT ON-DEMAND RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH ARE RECOMMENDATIONS WE'RE ASKING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. WHAT WE WOULD DO IS MOVING THE AGING TRUE SERVICE. WE'D MOVE THE AGING TRUE CUSTOMERS ON TO THE FLEX ROUTE. WE'VE GOT 17ISH PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF BEING QUALIFIED FOR TD SERVICE. THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THE BILLING -- BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE WAY THAT REGIMENT WORKS IS MV -- JT'S CONTRACT, WE PAY THE BILL. INSTEAD OF ALL THAT WORK BEING DONE, IT'S EASIER IF THE RELATIONSHIP IS DIRECTLY COUNTY TO JTA. JTA HANDLES IT. THOSE PEOPLE ON THE TD WOULD BE FREE TO SERVICE. WE WILL COME TO THE ADVISORY BOARD AND ASK FOR A WAIVER OF FEES FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY USING THAT SYSTEM. THAT WILL BE A REQUEST WE MAKE THROUGH THE TD BOARD AT THAT POINT IN TIME. CHARLES, AM I MISSING ANYTHING IN THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD? >> UM -- >> WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ON THIS EXACT TO TOPIC. >> I DON'T THINK YOU'RE MISSING ANYTHING. ONE OF THE BENEFITS, I THINK YOU SHOULD POINT OUT TWO THINGS. NUMBER ONE, IT OPENS UP THE TD SERVICE TO EVERYONE I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE FOLKS THAT WERE JUST USING IT FOR THE SENIOR CENTER OR AGING TRUE. WE DISQUALIFY THOSE AS AGENCY TRIPS, AND NOW WE'RE OPENING UP THE SERVICE TO ANYBODY THAT QUALIFIES FOR TD. WE THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY THERE. AND THEN IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE US FROM ALSO FOCUSING ON THAT MARKETING AND OUTREACH PLAN FOR PEOPLE TO USE THE FLEX ROUTES, WHICH IS THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE TO DO SO. AS A REMINDER FOR THE COMMISSION, WHEN WE MADE THE -- TOOK THE MONTH OF OCTOBER AND MADE THE FLEX TRIPS FREE -- FARE FREE TO GET THE WORD OUT THERE, WE HAD AN INCREASE -- YOU HAD AN INCREASE OF 7% RIDERSHIP, WHICH IS AN INCREDIBLE NUMBER, RIGHT. IT WAS ABOUT THE FACT THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW THE SERVICE WAS THERE. IT'S THE STRATEGY WE WANT TO TAKE IN THE NEAR TERM AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY, I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO FAR, REALLY, ALSO, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THAT MID-RANGE PLAN. IN THE SHORT TERM, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THE EFFICIENCIES ARE IN PLACE SO WE DON'T GROW EXPENSES EXPONENTIALLY IN THE NEAR TERM. WE WANT TO CORRECT THOSE ITEMS FIRST SO THAT YOU CA THEN FOCUS ON ON-TIME PERFORMANCE, EFFICIENCY, CUSTOMER SATISFACTION BEFORE YOU CONSIDER MAKING AN INVESTMENT IN THE FUTURE FOR THAT MID-RANGE. >> OKAY. THEN KIND OF COMBINED WITH THAT, WITH THE TD, WAS THE FR FREQUENY THERE'S TALKS ABOUT THE TWO TRIPS SOLVING THAT. SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD USE JUST REGULAR TD SERVICE TO JUST TAKE THEM. IT WASN'T NECESSARILY CONVENIENT. SO, SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO WOULD QUALIFY FOR TD THAT ISN'T SENIOR CITIZENS WERE NOT REALLY ABLE TO GET JOBS BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF THE -- THE BUSES, LIKE, TO NAS. SO, MAYBE -- I KNOW YOU HAVE THAT ON YOUR MID-RANGE AS WELL, SO I'M SURE YOU'RE LOOKING ANOTHER THOSE, TOO. >> WE ARE. ALLOW US TO GET INTO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL AND COME BACK TO YOU WITH AN UPDATED PLAN. WE HAVE NOTES ON EVERY SINGLE PERSON WE SPOKE TO. SO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M GIVING YOU A REPRESENTATION FOR [01:00:08] THAT PARTICULAR AREA. >> SO, SOME OF THE THINGS IN THE MID-RANGE ARE ON-DEMAND ONLY, AND THE MAGENTA LINE IS IN MY DISTRICT, AND I KNOW IT'S NOT HEAVILY UTILIZED, BUT IT IS USED SOME TO THE VA. WHAT DOES ON-DEMAND MEAN? >> ON-DEMAND, SO, AT THE JTA, WE HAVE A SERVICE CALLED READY RIDE, MICROTRANSIT ON-DEMAND SERVICE. WE CREATE A ZONE. YOU HAIL THE VEHICLE ON YOUR PHONE OR YOU CALL, MUCH LIKE AN UBER, IF YOU COULD IMAGINE THAT. IT'S ON DEMAND. IT'S CALLING IT THAT NAME. IT'S, COME AND GET ME WHERE I AM AND TAKE ME TO MY FINAL DESTINATION. >> IT TOOK FROM THE SENIOR CENTER IN KEYSTONE HEIGHTS, THEY HAVE TO CALL TO IT COME BACK? >> WE COULD DO SUBSCRIPTIONS WHERE YOU PLAN YOUR WHOLE TRIP, AND IT GETS ALL PROGRAMMED AT ONCE. >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY WELCOME IN THE COMMUNITY. ONE OF THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WE HAVE DISCOVERED IS THAT WE HAVE SOME HOMELESS TRANSIENTS THAT FIGURED OUT THEY CAN RIDE FOR A $1 FROM THE VA IN GAINESVILLE TO KEYSTONE HEIGHTS AND UTILIZE SERVICES THERE WITH THE FOOD BANK AND STUFF AND GO BACK. THE INTENTION IS NOT TO PROVIDE A FREE WAY FOR THEM TO COME GET FOODS FROM THE FOOD BANK. THEY SHOULD BE A RESIDENT TO UTILIZE THE SERVICES. ANYWAY, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE THEN THEY WOULDN'T HAVE FREE ACCESS TO KNOWING THE SCHEDULE; THAT IT WOULD BE A SUBSCRIPTION OR... >> IF I MAY, MA'AM? >> YES, ABSOLUTELY. >> THERE ARE TWO OTHER THINGS I'D LIKE TO ADD TO THE WHOLE SENIOR CENTER CONCEPT. WITH AGING TRUE, PICK ME UP, TAKE ME TO THE SENIOR CENTER, TAKE ME BACK TO MY HOUSE. WHEREAS, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING WITH THE MERGING OF THE SERVICES IS THAT WOULD BE MORE OF A TRADITIONAL BUS SERVICE. SO, BETWEEN THE TD AND THE FLEX, THERE CAN BE SOME FLEXIBILITY ON, OKAY, I NEED TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE, THAT'S ANOTHER BUS STOP. THERE WILL BE MORE FLEXIBILITY. THE OTHER THING, SHE HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN ALL OF OUR CONVERSATIONS. IF YOU HAD SOME SPECIFICATIONS, SHE'S BACK -- >> HEY, TREA. IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS HOW THIS WILL AFFECT THE SENIOR CENTERS, SHE COULD ANSWER. >> TREA, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE -- MY INTERPRETATION IS, FROM WORKING WITH YOU FOR ALL THESE MONTHS WITH TD, THAT THIS WOULD BE HELPFUL, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH. SO, LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. >> TREA ROBINSON, DIRECTOR OF SENIOR SERVICES, AGING TRUE. I HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE STUDY AND THE CONVERSATIONS WITH TROY, CHARLES AND HIS TEAM. I AM IN FAVOR AND IN SUPPORT OF THE RECOMMENDATION FROM JTA AS IT DOES PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FOR THE CLIENTS AND GREATER FLEXIBILITY IN THEIR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS. >> OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANKS FOR BEING HERE THIS AFTERNOON. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR TREA? OKAY. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. DID WE -- DID WE -- SO WE -- I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S MY DIRECTION. BUT THERE'S FOUR OTHERS. >> I MEAN, I THINK IT'S REALLY CONSENSUS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE CONTRACT LANGUAGE THE WAY IT IS. THE CONTRACT IS ABOUT TO EXPIRE. WE CAN LET THAT CONTRACT EXPIRE AND TALKING TO OUR LEGAL TEAM. I'M NOT GOING TO PUT WORDS IN COURTNEY'S MOUTH. THE CONTRACT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ALLOWS US TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES. I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE ANY INCREASED -- WE DON'T NEED TO DO A CONTRACT TIME AT THIS TIME TO ADDRESS THAT. IF IT'S THE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD, THERE'S NO REAL ACTION WE HAVE TO TAKE, OTHER THAN CONDITION AGING TRUE LETTING THEIR CONTRACT DIE AND WE WOULD TAKE THAT OVER. AS LONG AS THAT'S THE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD THAT THAT'S THE BEST OPTION, THEN WE MOVE FORWARD. >> OKAY. >> A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT LOOKING THIS UP EARLIER. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INCREASED SERVICES, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMBINING SERVICES. WE HAVE A PRICE TAG OF $4 MILLION UNDER MID-RANGE RECOMMENDATIONS. WHERE DOES THAT -- I MEAN, I GUESS THERE'S NO GRANT MONEY APPLIED TO THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME? >> THAT'S CORRECT, SIR. THIS IS A PART WHERE WE'VE HAD LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS AND STRUGGLED WITH HOW TO REPRESENT THIS NUMBER EFFECTIVELY. WE'RE PLANNING MORE ROUTES THAT [01:05:01] WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE FEDERAL FUNDING FOR OR STATE FUNDING FOR. HOWEVER, ONCE WE KNOW THAT THIS IS THE PLAN AND WE'RE ADOPTING THIS PLAN, THEN JTA AND THE COUNTY TEAMS WILL WORK TOGETHER TO GO LOOK FOR MORE GRANTS. THE IMPRESSION WE'RE PUTING ON THE TABLE, AND PLEASE CORRECT ME AND THE TEAM, $4 MILLION IS IF ALL THE GRANTS DIE, WE'RE ALL IN, WE HAVE TO DO IT BETWEEN US AND JTA, WE'RE CONFIDENT THERE'S GRANTS OUT THERE. WE JUST DON'T WANT TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE PLAN THAT WE DON'T HAVE YET. >> WORST-CASE SCENARIO. >> SAME THING WITH THE VEHICLE COSTS WITH THE CAPITAL COST. WE HAVE A CAPITAL COST ON SLIDE -- I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE, ONE OF THE SLIDES HAS A CAPITAL COST. THAT'S THE FULL-IN CAPITAL COST. WHEREAS IN THE PAST, WE GOT 90% COST SHARE WHERE THE COUNTY PUTS IN 10 OR 20%. OUR CIP MEETING, WE FACTORED IN THE 20% INTO OUR CIP TO DO ANY KIND OF GRANT THAT WOULD COME FOR CAPITAL. SO WITH WE -- SO, WE WERE TRYING TO PAINT THE RIGHT PICTURE WITHOUT MAKING ASSUMPTIONS THAT WEREN'T TRUE. >> I WOULD ADD THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE STRATEGIZED ON IS WE DIDN'T WANT TO COME BACK FROM THE STUDY TO THE COMMISSION WITH A REQUEST THAT WE NEED TO UP THE BUDGET SOME AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THE FIRST YEAR. WE REALLY WANTED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE WERE UNDERSTANDING THE SYSTEM AS IT WAS, FORECASTING WITH DATA; THAT THERE'S A LONGER-TERM -- MID-TERM PLAN THAT WE NEED AN INVESTMENT IN, FOCUS ON EFFICIENCIES IN THE NEAR TERM. THAT'S WHY THERE'S NO ASK. WE ALSO LOOKED AT OTHER REVENUES SOURCES, FOR EXAMPLE, ADVERTISING ON VEHICLES IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WOULD REALLY HELP TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THE COST. THERE'S MANY STRATEGIES. WE HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH THAT ENTIRE EXERCISE TODAY. BUT MY -- MY FEELING ABOUT THE WHOLE STUDY IS THAT THIS IS PART OF AN ONGOING RELATIONSHIP WHERE WE -- WE STRATEGIZE TOGETHER AND BRING BACK MORE INFORMATION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. BUT THERE'S SOME THINGS WE'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT. >> OKAY. >> YEAH, I MEAN, IT STILL DOESN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION TOTALLY. BUT, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. BOTTOM LINE, WHERE ARE WE? ACCORDING TO THIS, OUR LOCAL CONTRIBUTION FOR 2023 IS FOR 2-24 BUDGET, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE ON PAGE 22 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SHORT- AND MID-RANGE ESTIMATED COSTS. I'M TRYING TO GET MY HANDS AROUND WHAT WE WILL COMMIT TO. AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S GREAT TO TALK ABOUT GRANTS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS, OTHER FUNDINGS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL PUTTING OURSELVES AT RISK FOR THAT. >> SO, IN THE CURRENT PLAN THAT WE HAVE, THERE WOULD BE NO -- OR A NOMINAL, WHEN I SAY NOMINAL, LESS THAN $100,000 INCREASE NEXT YEAR IN YOUR BUDGET, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SET NEXT YEAR. SOME OF THAT IS MOVING MONEY CURRENTLY GOING TO AGING TRUE TO JTA AS PART OF OUR BUDGET PROCESS, WE WILL DO THAT. WE'LL PUT IN A CAPITAL REQUEST IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR $250,000 TO MATCH POTENTIAL GRANTS FOR TECHNOLOGY OR EXTRA BUSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO PREPARE US FOR THE MID-RANGE PLAN. IF THE BOARD'S DIRECTION WAS TO BE EXPENSE NEUTRAL, UM, NEXT YEAR, MY RECOMMENDATION -- MY RECOMMENDATION WILL BE ANYWAYS, EVEN IF IT'S NOT, TO START LOOKING AT THESE ADVERTISING OPPORTUNITIES. WE RAN NUMBERS ON ADVERTISING OPPORTUNITIES. WE'RE IN THE PROBABLY 100,000ISH RANGE, BASED ON WHAT I REMEMBER, ON POTENTIAL REVENUE FROM THOSE ADVERTISING OPPORTUNITIES. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN COME BACK WITH, COMMISSIONER, TO YOUR DIRECT QUESTION. NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET WILL NOT SEE A DRAMATIC INCREASE. IT WILL BE A NOMINAL $100,000ISH INCREASE AND THE CAPITAL REQUEST SO WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH TRYING TO GET SOME OF THESE BUS FARE SYSTEMS IN PLACE SO WE CAN TAKE ELECTRONIC PAYMENTS AND VOUCHER SYSTEMS. IF YOUR NONPROFITS WERE HERE, YOU'D HEAR FROM THEM, VOUCHERS ARE A WAY FOR THEM TO PAY FOR TRIPS IS THE BIGGEST HINDRANCE THEY HAVE. THAT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEIR PATRONS $50 IN CASH, BUT THEY'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GIVE THEM A $50 BUS CARD SO THEY CAN PAY FOR THOSE BUS TRIPS. WE DON'T HAVE THAT TECHNOLOGY IN PLACE RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ALL OF US ON THE TEAM HAVE TALKED EXTENSIVELY ABOUT, IS THAT TRIP. I DON'T KNOW IF CHARLES WANTS TO ADD ANYTHING OR NOT, BUT I THINK THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY. >> YEAH, THANK YOU. [01:10:03] >> YES, SIR. >> ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. THANK YOU. >> I APPRECIATE YOU. >> UM, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO O OUR -- BEFORE WE MOVE TO -- INTO THE NEXT PHASE OF THE AGENDA, I DIDN'T SEE ANY OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS HERE. DID I MISS ANYONE? THEN I WANTED TO SEE IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES AND GO AHEAD AND GET OUR FIRST -- OUR FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT OUT OF THE WAY AND OUR CONSENT AGENDA BEFORE WE MOVE TO 5:00 TIME CERTAINS. I KNOW WE HAVE -- WE ARE AT 5:10, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE WAITED FOR THIS -- THIS FIRST PART, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD. IF YOU CAN KEEP NOISE -- IF YOU CAN KEEP NOISE -- IF YOU CAN KEEP NOISE TO A MINIMUM, BECAUSE IT'S VERY DISTRACTING FOR US TO LISTEN TO THE DOOR OPENING AND CLOSING AND LOTS OF MOVEMENT. IF YOU NEED TO MOVE AROUND, WE UNDERSTAND, BUT KEEP NOISE TO A [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] MINIMUM, PLEASE. >> I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CIP IMPACT FEE WORKSHOP MARCH 4TH AND THE COMMISSIONER MEETING ON MARCH 14TH, 2023. >> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. [PUBLIC COMMENTS] MOTION CARRIES 5-0. WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT CARD FOR JUST THE REGULAR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> MY NAME IS A -- I LIVE IN COMMISSIONER BURKE'S DISTRICT. I AM HERE REQUESTING ASSISTANCE WITH THE DUMP TRUCKS. I LIVE ALMOST AT THE CORNER OF SANDRIDGE AND BRANDSCOMB. THE TRUCKS DO NOT WANT TO GO FROM SANDRIDGE TO HENLEY. THEY BAKE A -- THEY MAKE A RIGHT AND THEY'RE FLYING. MY HOUSE IS SHAKING. I AM TWO BLOCKS FROM -- OR TWO HOUSES IN. I HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO WORK MIDNIGHTS. YOU'RE NOT SLEEPING WITH THAT. I WORK FROM HOME. I'M IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. MY HOUSE IS SHAKING. I CAN JUST HEAR IT. THEY'RE BOOMING. THEY'RE COMING THROUGH. THEY DO NOT WANT TO GO TO THE STOP SIGN. IN ADDITION, REQUESTING MORE POLICE OFFICERS, WHATEVER IT IS GOING TO TAKE TO SLOW THOSE TRUCKS DOWN WHEN THOSE LIGHTS ARE FLASHING. I'M SITTING THERE -- I WENT OUTSIDE, VIDEOTAPED, WATCHING THEM. THEY'RE FLYING. THOSE TRUCKS DO NOT CARE. THERE'S A WEIGHT RESTRICTION, SO THEY CAN'T GO DOWN RUSSELL ROAD. THEY HAVE TO COME DOWN SANDRIDGE WITH THE DIRT. WE REALLY NEED THEM TO SLOW DOWN. I DON'T WANT ANY CHILDREN HIT. I WAS OUT THERE WATCHING THE KIDS LEAVING, AND THEY JUST FLOCK ACROSS TO ALL THESE CARS WHO ARE PARKED BEHINDS THE WINN WINN-DIXIE. RIGHT NOW IT'S -- YOU KNOW, WE'VE NOW LOST ALL THESE PEOPLE. THEY'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT EIGHT-FOOT FENCES IN THE BACK. I CAN'T AFFORD THAT RIGHT NOW. AND I'M JUST REQUESTING ASSISTANCE. I KNOW YOU'RE IN RUSSELL. SO, SOMEONE REALLY NEEDS TO LOOK AT THAT. BECAUSE WE'RE MISERABLE. SO, I'M REQUESTING ASSISTANCE. >> THANK YOU. >> SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BY THE WAY, I AM ON THE BOARD FOR GLENHAVEN, SO I TOLD THEM I'D COME. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING THIS AFTERNOON. MR. TALVI, YOU'RE ON HERE FOR A SPECIFIC ITEM, AND DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC COMMENT OR JUST THE SPECIFIC ITEM? >> OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE CONSENT AGENDA -- [INDISCERNIBLE] >> WELL, I WASN'T SURE IF YOU MIGHT WANT TO HELP US OUT WITH TIME. >> NO, MA'M. JAMES OTTO, CLAY COUNTY FLORIDA [01:15:02] ACC HOTELS. PRAYERS TO THE KIDS KILLED IN TENNESSEE. I ALSO LIKE TO SAY PRAYERS OUT TO THE FOLKS IN ST. JOHNS WHERE THE CHEERLEADER GOT STABBED. WE JUST WENT THROUGH THAT MESS IN THE COURTS. WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT GETTING THAT K-12, THE FOOTBALL OUT OF THE K-12. THIS IS KIND OF SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. AS FAR AS THE SCHOOLS -- WE HAD THEM IN OUR SCHOOLS. THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN REGULATIONS. I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH WHAT HAPPENED WITH OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. YOU KNOW, WE LOST ADDISON DAVIS, STEPHANIE AND THEN WE WERE FORCED OUT OF OUR SHERIFF. THEY GOT ACQUITTED OF ALL CHARGES, SHERIFF DANIELS. NOT TO PUT ANYTHING NEGATIVE ON OUR SHERIFF, BUT I HOPE THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER SOME DAY HERE IN CLAY COUNTY. SO, WE NEED A MAP ON WHO DIDN'T PAY IMPACT FEES BECAUSE I'M TIRED HEARING ALL THESE PEOPLE COME IN FROM SANDRIDGE AND OTHER PLACES. AND, MAN, WE DO NOT WANT THE OVERGROWTH AND ALL THE REGULATIONS THAT JIM AND THIS GUY OVER HERE HAS. >> MR. OTTO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. >> WE DON'T WANT THAT GROWTH. YOU GOT US DOWN TO THE LOWEST IMPACT FEE. WE WANT THE HIGHEST IMPACT FEE. NOW I'M HEARING SOMETHING ABOUT THESE AIRSTREAM ADVENTURES, PUTSING MOTOR BOATS ON OUR AQUIFER LAKES. COME ON, FOLKS. I'M HERE IN THIS SHIRT BECAUSE I WAS FALSELY ARRESTED IN MARION COUNTY FOR MY GUN I STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN BACK YET ALMOST TWO YEARS LATER. WE NEED COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE STANDING UP FOR OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, NOT STEPPING ON THEM LIKE THE TDC, WHAT HAPPENED AT THE LAST MEETING I WAS HERE. I APPRECIATE YOUR BEING THE CHAIR AND DOING IT RIGHT, BUT THE ONLY ONE IN TALLAHASSEE THAT HAS KICKED ME OUT OF A MEETING BECAUSE OF MY SHIRT THAT WAS MADE AT ORANGE PARK MALL. THAT'S SAD. IT REALLY AGGRAVATES ME, WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING. FOR MARION COUNTY TO STEP ON OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND THROW SOMEBODY IN JAIL IS WRONG. IT'S WRONG. AND FOR YOU ALL, JUST LIKE THIS PAPER SHOWS RIGHT HERE, IT'S JUST AS WRONG FOR YOU TO SUPPORT A FARE, TAKING AWAY OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND NOT TAKING CARE OF THIS PROBLEM. >> THANK YOU. >> PRIOR BOARDS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS. >> OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. OTTO. >> WHAT A MESS. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE TO OUR -- UM, WAS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTED TO SPEAK IN OUR FIRST PUBLIC [CONSENT AGENDA] COMMENT, NOT ABOUT ONE OF THE ZONING ITEMS, BUT SOMETHING ELSE. THE CONSENT AGENDA, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION WITH THE EXCEPTIONS OF ITEMS 12 AND 19. ITEM NUMBER 12 WILL BE MOVED TO THE 4/11 AGENDA AND ITEM IN THE 19 WILL BE MOVED TO PROB PROBABLY 4/25? >> 4/11. ITEMS NUMBER 12 AND 19 WILL MOVE TO 4/11, SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA EXCEPT 12 AND 19. >> A SECOND. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? MOION CARRIES 5-0. NOW WE WILL MOVE TO OUR 5:00 TIME CERTAINS, STARTING WITH TONIGHT'S MEETING, THE BOARD WILL BEGIN INSTITUTING A NEW POLICY OF SWEARING IN ALL INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH TO SPEAK DURING A ZONING-RELATED PUBLIC HEARING AS IT IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING. THIS POLICY WAS BEGUN AT THE MARCH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND APPLIES TO OTHER COMMISSIONS. IT IS TO BETTER REFLECT THE NATURE OF QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS WHEREIN EACH PERSON SPEAKING IS CONSIDERED BY THE LAW TO BE GIVING TESTIMONY WHICH IS TRADITIONALLY DONE UNDER OATH. TONIGHT, THERE ARE THREE ZONING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, NUMBER 21, NUMBER 23 AND NUMBER 24B. I'M 23 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN. HOWEVER, BECAUSE THERE WAS A PUBLIC HEARING ADVERTISED, WE WILL STILL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AT THE START OF THOSE AGENDA ITEMS, EVERYONE WHO HAS FILLED OUT A COMMENT CARD AND WISHES TO SPEAK WILL BE ASKED TO STAND AND SWORN IN BY THE COUNTY CLERK TO MY FAR RIGHT. INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY DECIDE TO [01:20:02] SPEAK AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS COMMENCED WILL BE INDIVIDUALLY SWORN IN PRIOR TO SPEAKING AND MUST SUBMIT A [21.  Public Hearing to consider ZON-0123-00002. (District 1, Comm. Cella) (M. Brown)] COMMENT CARD. WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ZON-0123-00002. THIS IS A REZONING OF ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL TO PRIVATE SERVICE. >> JUST ONE CORRECTION. IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 23, IT HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN AND THERE NOT BE A PUBLIC HEARING. >> OH, THERE WILL NOT BE A PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 23, WE APOLOGIZE, THE APPLICANT WITHDREW THAT. >> MADAM CHAIRMAN AND BOARD, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUATION OF THIS ITEM TO APRIL 25TH DUE TO A MEDICAL EMERGENCY. SO, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO LET THE BOARD KNOW THAT AT THIS POINT. I CAN STILL GO THROUGH THE -- THE STAFF REPORT IF YOU DESIRE. >> SO, WE STILL HAVE TO OPEN THE ARE HERE, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SWEAR THE PEOPLE WHO MAY WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 21 NOW OR AFTER MR. BROWN DOES HIS PRESENTATION. >> OKAY. MR. MAY, IS YOUR ITEM NUMBER 24? MR. MAY? LARRY MAY? >> RIGHT HERE. 24. >> 24. I HAVE TWO CARDS ON 21. I HAVE ONE FOR VICTOR CRAVEN. ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTED TO SPEAK ON NUMBER 21. OKAY. SO, I GUESS, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 21, STAND UP, AND THE CLERK CAN SWEAR YOU IN AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. >> ALL RAISE YOUR RIGHT-HAND, PLEASE. (SWEARING IN). >> YES. >> THANK YOU. HAVE A SEAT. >> OKAY. MARSHALL WOOD? >> YES. >> ITEM 24. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO, UM, YOU WANT TO SPEAK, OR DO YOU WANT THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE TO COME UP? >> REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APLICANT WAS JUST REQUESTING A -- A CONTINUATION. I CAN DO THE STAFF PRESENTATION IF YOU LIKE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THIS ITEM, MADAM CHAIRMAN AND BOARD, UM, IS A REQUESTED REZONING FROM AGRICULTURE TO PS3, WHICH IS PRIVATE SERVICES. THERE ARE THREE PARCELS LOCATED SOUTH OF COUNTY ROAD 220 AND WEST OF CLAUDE ROAD IN THE FLEMING ISLAND PLANNING DISTRICT. IT IS COMMISSIONER CELLA'S DISTRICT. THEY HEARD THE ITEM MARCH 7TH AT THE ADVERTISED MEETING. THIS IS AN AERIAL SHOWING YOU THE THREE PARCELS AND THE LOCATION. THE THREE PARCELS TOTAL 9.56 ACRES. EACH ARE PRESENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING. THEY HAVE APPROXIMATELY 1,041 LINEAR FEET OF FRONTAGE ON COUNTY ROAD 220 AND 428 FEET FRONTAGE ON THE ROAD. THE REQUESTED PS3 ZONING IS PERMISSIBLE IN THE RURAL FRINGE LAND USE. THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DOES PROVIDE FOR VARIOUS INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT FOR SPECIFIC USES THAT ARE ALLOWED WITHIN THE PS3 ZONING DISTRICT. AND THOSE ARE BASED ON THE ROAD FUNCTION CLASSIFICATION. COUNTY ROAD 220 IS CLASSIFIED AS A MINOR ARTERIAL. DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE WILL BE LIMITED TO THE INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT ALLOWED ON MINOR ARTERIALS SET FORTH IN THE PS3 ZONING DISTRICT SHOULD THIS ZONING REQUEST BE APPROVED. THE PS3 DEVELOPMENT STANDARD [01:25:02] SETS A MAXIMUM RATIO OF 40% WITH THE EXCEPTION OF HOSPITAL USES, WHICH WOULD NOT EXCEED A FLOOR AREA RATIO OF 80%. THE STATED INTENT OF THE REQUESTED REZONING IS TO FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A STAND-ALONE EMERGENCY ROOM WITH MEDICAL OFFICES. THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOU THE ZONING -- SURROUNDING ZONING. THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH AND WEST ARE AGRICULTURE/RESIDENTIAL. EAST ACROSS CLAUDE ROAD IS THE LOCATION OF THE ST. JOHNS CLASSICAL ACADEMY, AND IT'S ZONED PS1. ACROSS COUNTY ROAD 220, THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING ZONING CHANGE TO AR -- OR FROM AGRICULTURAL-RESIDENTIAL TO PS3 ZONING. THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE RURAL FRINGE FUTURE LAND USE. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND DETERMINED THAT REQUEST IS CAPABLE WITH -- COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. THEY VOTED 4-1 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED 5-5 STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL TO AMEND THE REZONING MAP. THAT'S FOR 9.5 ACRES FROM AR TO PS3. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> QUESTIONS OF STAFF? WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE COME UP. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS EMILY PIERCE. WE ARE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE OF THIS. UNFORTUNATELY, THE ATTORNEY THAT IS HANDLING THIS, ENDED UP IN THE ER YESTERDAY AND THEN IN THE HOSPITAL. I EXPECT HIM TO BE FINE BY APRIL 25TH. BUT IT WAS UNEXPECTED, AND WE ARE REQUESTING YOUR INDULGENCE TO CONTINUE THIS. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND READVERTISE IT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE AT LEAST A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT IT, SO WE WILL MAKE SURE IT IS PROPERLY READVERTISED. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. >> PLEASE GIVE HIM OUR BEST. >> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. OH, WAIT, I NEED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. I OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> NOW I CAN SPEAK. YES. I LIVE BEHIND ONE OF THE PROPERTIES -- OR, ACTUALLY, TWO OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO HAVE IT. BECAUSE, FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC, D THROUGH CLAUDE ROAD, EVEN THOUGH IT SAYS IT IS A DEAD END, PEOPLE WILL STILL GO AROUND. AND, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH -- WITH A LOT OF, UM, FLOODING. AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THE COUNTY NOT KEEPING UP THE DITCHES AND ROADWAYS, IT'S -- IT'S GONNA REALLY IMPACT IT. PLUS, IF WE HAVE THIS EMERGENCY ROOM, WHAT'S TO SAY WE WON'T HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THEFT, AND, YOU KNOW, GUNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? SO, I -- I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT IT TO -- I'D RATHER KEEP IT AN AGRICULTURAL INSTEAD OF A PS3 BECAUSE THEY SHOULD JUST STOP WHERE -- WHERE THE PS3 IS SUPPOSED TO BE, AND THAT'S BEFORE CONOVER ROAD. I REALLY THINK THAT WE -- I -- I -- I WOULD NOT LIKE TO HAVE IT. SO, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. AND VICTOR CRAVEN. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M VICTOR CRAVEN. I LIVE RIGHT BEHIND THE PROPOSED CHANGE. I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. >> CAN YOU PULL THAT MICROPHONE UP A LITTLE BIT. THANKS. >> BETTER? >> YEAH. >> THANK YOU. WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHY WE'RE DOING IT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND DURING THE FLEMING ISLAND PLANNING [01:30:03] COMMISSION, WHEN THEY PUT ALL THIS TOGETHER -- AND I'VE BEEN OUT THERE SINCE 1981. ALL OF THIS WAS PLANNED UP, AND THEY DID IT, AND ALL THE COMMERCIAL WAS TO STOP AT EAST-WEST. THERE WAS GOING TO BE NO COMMERCIAL BEYOND THAT. THEY PUT IN THE CHURCH THAT USED TO BE THERE, WHICH IS NOW ST. JOHNS CLASSICAL ACADEMY. IT WOULD BE SUNDAY SERVICES, WEDNESDAY EVENING, THINGS OUT OF THE NORMAL FLOW OF TRAFFIC. NOW LOOK AT IT. IT'S TEARING THINGS UP AROUND THERE. AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN ANOTHER COMMERCIAL BUILDING WITH A LOT OF IN-AND-OUT TRAFFIC, A LOT OF TRAFFIC ACROSS 220. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY ACCIDENTS I'VE SEEN AT THE LIGHT AT CANOVER. THEY WILL BE GETTING SMACKED GOING IN AND OUT OF THIS PLACE. I JUST -- I JUST DON'T SEE IT. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. WHERE WILL WE STOP WITH THE COMMERCIAL GOING DOWN THAT WAY? IF WE KEEP GOING AND GOING WITH IT, WE WILL BE WILD OUT THERE. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY. MR. OTTO, I REMIND YOU THAT YOU ARE SPEAKING ON ITEM NUMBER 21 ONLY. >> JAMES OTTO. 2809 BLANEY BOULEVARD. YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT MORATORIUMS. IT KIND OF SEEMS LIKE IT'S A JOKE BECAUSE THINGS KEEP GETTING PASSED AND PASSES. I DON'T -- I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY -- WHY WE CAN'T STOP THIS STUFF. THEY DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO JUST BUILD STUFF WHEN THERE'S NO STRUCTURE. THEY DON'T HAVE A RIGHT. IF THEY DID IT FIVE, TEN YEARS AGO, THEY SHOULD HAVE DID IT WHEN THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO. OUR PERMITS ARE UP IN A YEAR, YOU KNOW. THIS IS THE SAME MARK THAT HAD AN ORDINANCE. HOW DOES HE HAVE A LAW LICENSE? I NEED TO CONTACT THE BAR ASSOCIATION. I MEAN, HONESTLY, 20 YEARS? A LAW AT 0% IN FEDERAL COURT. >> YOU NEED TO STAY ON THIS ITEM. >> HE'S REPRESENTING STUFF ON THIS BOARD. >> WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER 21, WHICH IS ABOUT THE REZONING OF THIS PARCEL OF 9.65 ACRES. >> PEOPLE ARE DYING IN FRONT OF MY PROPERTY. >> THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, MR. OTTO. 9.56 ACRES ON COUNTY ROAD 220. >> AGAIN, WE DIDN'T COLLECT AN IMPACT FEE FOR THIS AREA, AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MAP OF WHO'S PAID IMPACT FEES -- >> MR. OTTO. >> THIS IS MY FINAL WARNING. YOU STAY ON THIS ITEM, OR YOU CAN'T SPEAK. >> FOR GROWTH, RIGHT, MA'AM. >> IT'S FOR REZONING OF A PARTICULAR PARCEL. PLEASE SPEAK ON THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL. >> ALL RIGHT. WELL, CAN YOU PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE DESCRIPTION NEXT TIME. >> MR. OTTO, A REZONING OF 9.56 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL-RESIDENTIAL TO PRIVATE SERVICES, PERIOD. >> YO'RE ON 21 NOW? >> WE'RE ON 21. >> I DON'T SEE THAT UNDER 21 ON MY COPY. >> IT'S THE BLUE ON MY COPY. I JUST GOT FROM THE ATTORNEY DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT. >> ALL RIGHT. >> I APPRECIATE YOU. THEY NEED TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT ON THESE. YOU CAN ALSO OPEN IT UP ON YOUR IPAD. >> I ALSO ASKED YOU TO PUT THE ITEM ON THE SCREEN LIKE MARION COUNTY DOES SO WE CAN FOLLOW YOU BETTER, MA'AM. >> THANK YOU FOR CALLING OUT THE VOTES. >> ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR A MOTION. >> MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO APRIL 25TH. >> I SECOND THE MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CONTINUE TO APRIL 25TH. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. [22.  Public Hearing to consider CPA-2022-23. (District 4, Comm. Condon) (M. Brown)] WE WILL NOW MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 22. ITEM NUMBER 22 IS NOT A REZONING AND, THEREFORE, DID NOT NEED THE -- THE SPEAKERS TO BE SWORN IN. MR. BROWN. >> MADAM CHAIR AND BOARD, THIS [01:35:04] ITEM, THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO REQUESTED A CONTINUATION TO MAY 23RD. THE REASON IS, UM,TH THERE WAS COMPANION REZONING. THEY'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THAT THROUGH LOOKING AT A PLANNED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT RATHER THAN A STRAIGHT PB4. THE DESIRE OF THE APPLICANT IS TO TRY TO MATCH THOSE BACK UP TOGETHER, THE COMPANION REZONING WITH THE LAND USE SO THAT THE BOARD CAN ADDRESS AND SEE BOTH AT THE SAME HEARING. SO, THAT IS THE BASIS OF THEIR REQUEST TO CONTINUE THE HEARING UNTIL MAY 23RD AT YOUR BOARD MEETING. I CAN GO THROUGH THE STAFF PRESENTATION FOR IT. THE APPLICANT IS CHRISTOPHER AND SARAH. THIS IS A SMALL-SCALE LAND-USE CHANGE FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3910 MAIN STREET IN MIDDLEBURG. IT'S IN COMMISSIONER CONDON'S DISTRICT. THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD THIS ITEM AT THEIR MARCH 7TH MEETING. THIS IS A SMALL-SCALE LAND-USE CHANGE FOR 0.86 ACRES, AS I STATED, FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL. THE PARCEL IS SITUATED NORTH SIDE OF MAIN STREET BETWEEN PALMETTO STREET AND BUTLER AVENUE. THE PARCEL IS VACANT WITH APPROXIMATELY 100 FEET OF FRONTAGE ON MAIN STREET. THE SUBJECT PARCEL SITS BETWEEN PARCELS WEST AND EAST THAT ARE PRESENTLY DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOU THE AERIAL, THEN THE PARCEL SITS BETWEEN THE TWO EXISTING COMMERCIAL DESIGNATED PARCELS. WE ALWAYS LOOK AT COMPARISON OF LAND USES. PRESENTLY, UNDER RURAL FRINGE MAX DENSITY IS ONE DWELLING UNIT. UNDER THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL WITH THE ALLOWABLE FLOOR AREA RATIO OF .4 ON THE 0.86 ACRES, THERE IS A MAXIMUM POTENTIAL OF 14,984 SQUARE FEET. OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. IF THE PROPOSED LAND USE IS APPROVED, THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOU WHAT IT WOULD -- WHAT THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS WOULD LOOK LIKE IN THE AREA. FUTURE LAND USE POLICY 1.4.8 STATES THAT SMALL-SCALE AMENDMENTS TO DEKT -- DESIGNATE LAND USE MAP SHALL BE FURTHER LIMITED TO THOSE MEETING THE PLAN CRITERIA SET FORTH IN THAT POLICY. THE INFILL CRITERIA STATES THAT A PARCEL -- IF A PARCEL LOCATED BETWEEN PARCELS WITHIN AN EXISTING DESIGNATION OF COMMERCIAL, INSTITUTIONAL AND/OR INDUSTRIAL, WHICH ARE LOCATED ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE ROADWAY SERVING THE PARCEL, AND ARE NO MORE THAN 500 FEET APART, IT MEETS THE DEFINITION OF INFILL IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. TE STAFF BELIEVES THAT THIS REQUEST MEETS THAT TEST OF INFILL. THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, UM, IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND THE REQUEST IS -- AND BELIEVES THE REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. THEY VOTED 8-0 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED LAND-USE CHANGE. THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED 4-3 TO RECOMMEND DENIAL. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT 2022-23 TO AMEND THE 2040 FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE DENIAL? >> OH, FOR DENIAL? UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION BELIEVED IT WASN'T COMPATIBLE [01:40:01] WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA ALONG MAIN STREET IN MUFFLM MIDDLEBURG. >> QUESTIONS? WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME UP? >> GOOD EVENING. UM, LIKE MR. BROWN SAID, I'M ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY. WE ARE SEEKING THE LAND USE CHANGE FROM COMMERCIAL, R2 COMMERCIAL AND REQUEST FOR COMBINATION SO WE CAN AMEND TO PCD TO BETTER FIT THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AFTER HEARING THE CONCERNS OF THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COUNCIL, UM, AND, OBVIOUSLY, THE PUBLIC FROM THE LAST COMMITTEE MEETING. WE DO BELIEVE THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE, THOUGH, WITH THE INFILL POLICY. DO I HAVE SOME -- HERE IS A -- I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT ME TO SHOW THIS. HERE IS A MAP OF OUR LOCAL AREA WITH OUR PROPERTY BEING HERE. WE'RE SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL IN THESE AREAS AND, OBVIOUSLY, A LOT OF COMMERCIAL AROUND BLANDING. DIRECTLY TO THE EAST AND WEST OF OUR PROPERTY ARE ALSO ZONED COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, AND THE SURROUNDING AREA. SO, SINCE THE INFILL IS LISTED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE DO FEEL LIKE WE ARE MEETING THAT CRITERIA. >> CAN YOU POINT OUT WHAT THOSE RED PARCELS ARE CURRENTLY. >> YES, MA'AM. THIS IS US. THIS IS A COMMERCIAL -- OR A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO THE WEST OF US THAT IS -- I ACTUALLY HAVE THAT ON -- IT'S LISTED AS COMMERCIAL. HOWEVER, WHEN YOU GO TO THE ZONING WEBSITE, IT IS ACTUALLY THE LAND USE IS MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL, AND THERE'S MULTIPLE -- THE LAND USE SAYS MULTIPLE RESIDENCES AND THERE'S AT LEAST THREE PROPERTIES ON THERE THAT I ALSO HAVE PHOTOS OF AS WELL. >> SO, IT'S RESIDENCES? >> IT IS RESIDENCES BUT IT IS ZONED COMMERCIAL, SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE ABOUT THAT. ON HERE, THIS IS FIVE STAR DESIGNS. THIS IS AN AT&T UTILITY BUILDING. THIS, I BELIEVE, IS OWNED BY FIVE STAR DETHREE. I DON'T KNOW THE STORE THERE. >> IT'S A BOOKSHOP. >> IT'S LIKE A -- >> IT'S CLOSED. IT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM MY CHURCH. >> THE ONE THAT YOU SAID IS OWNED BY FIVE STAR DESIGNS, IS THERE ANYTHING THERE? >> THERE IS A BUILDING THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE USE IS. OKAY. THE OTHER RED ONE IS THE CHURCH. >> ACTUALLY, THIS IS A -- THIS IS A -- UM, THIS IS UNKNOWN TO US AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. HOWEVER, THIS IS JUST WHAT CAME UP IN THE ZONING MAP. SO, YOU CAN SEE WE ARE SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, SO WE FELT LIKE OUR REQUEST FOR THE LAND-USE CHANGE WOULD BE -- WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. >> OKAY. THIS IS ANOTHER PICTURE. THIS IS US. JUST SHOWING HOW MUCH THE AREA DOES HAVE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY SURROUNDING IT, AND THAT WE REALLY ARE -- ARE KIND OF JUST GOING ALONG WITH THE PROPERTIES SURROUNDING US. I DO HAVE PHOTOS THAT SHOW T THAT -- WHAT OUR PROPERTY CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE, AND SOME OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS THAT WERE CONCERNS IN THE -- IN THE BOARD OF COMMISSION -- OR THE OTHER MEETING WE HAD. HOWEVER, SINCE WE'RE REQUESTING FOR A CONTINUATION, I'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE IT WITH YOU AT THAT OTHER TIME. >> YEAH, THAT'S FINE. WE SAID THAT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE [01:45:01] SURROUNDING USES. WE'RE HOPING TO PUT A SMALL OFFICE BUILDING ON THAT PROPERTY WITH A PLANNED PCD WITH AS LITTLE AFFECT ON THE NEIGHBORS AS POSSIBLE. THE CHANGE DOESN'T AFFECT SCHOOLS, RECREATION, REGIONALLY SIGNIFICANT HABITATS, HISTORIC STRUCTURES OR SITES. THEY DID VOTE IN FAVOR OF US. AND WE HAD MENTIONED AT THAT POINT, AS WELL, TO GO ALONG AND SWITCH IT FROM A BB4, WHICH, OBVIOUSLY, BROUGHT A LOT OF FEELINGS UP BECAUSE OF THE LIMITATIONS THAT ARE OR ARE NOT THERE IN TERMS OF WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE ON THAT PROPERTY. WE'RE HOPING TO LIMIT THAT BY DO IT WITH A PCD. >> YOU WANT TO PUT AN OFFICE BUILDING AND WHAT? >> PARKING FOR OUR BUSINESS EQUIPMENT. >> BUT YOUR BUSINESS EQUIPMENT -- I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO HEAR WHAT YOUR EQUIPMENT IS. >> WE OWN A LAND CLEARING COMPANY. IT WOULD BE DUMP TRUCKS, EQUIPMENT THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT, SMALL-SCALE, UM, EXCAVATORS AND THINGS, NOTHING THAT WOULDN'T FIT WITHIN THE COMPOUNDS OF OUR GATE. SO, ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE LARGER THAT YOU COULD FIT IN A BACKYARD, WOULD BE STORED ON A JOB SITE. >> WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS? >> REGULAR DAYLIGHT HOURS WITH COMPLIANCE TO THE -- TO THE CLAY COUNTY NOISE ORDINANCES THAT ARE LISTED. THAT'S ALL LISTED IN THE PCD. WE DON'T DO ANY WORK ON THE PROPERTY. IT'S BASICALLY LOADING AND UNLOADING OF -- OF EQUIPMENT, AS WELL AS THAT'S WHERE OUR EMPLOYEES PARK. TYPICALLY, PEOPLE GET THERE BETWEEN 7:00 AND 7:30 AND THEN OUR WORKDAY IS COMPLETELY OVER BY SUNDOWN AT THE LATEST. IT'S A TRANSITIONAL PLACE. WE'RE NOT LAND CLEARING THERE. SINCE THE NATURE OF OUR BUSINESS DOES TAKE PLACE ON OTHER PROPERTIES, IT'S MOSTLY VACANT. >> THE REASON I ASK YOU ABOUT YOUR HOURS IS BECAUSE THESE DAYS IT GETS LATE -- IT GETS DARK ALMOST 9:00 AT NIGHT, AND I HAVE LOTS OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT HOW EARLY YOU START UP VEHICLES IN THE MORNING. AND THEN COMING BACK IN THE EVENING, THE EMPLOYEES STANDING AROUND, TALKING, CONGREGATING, LAUGHING LOUD, HANGING OUT, DOING WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING, THOSE ARE THE COMPLAINTS THAT I'VE GOTTEN. YOU'RE ASKING FOR COMMERCIAL, BUT IT'S NOT INDOORS. THAT'S WHY I ASKED ABOUT THE OFFICE BUILDING AND THE PARKING. >> WELL, IN TERMS OF THE FEELINGS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE HAVING, WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE FACTS. IF THIS IS A RESIDENCE, WE WOULD BE WELL WITHIN OUR RIGHTS TO LAUGH AND ENJOY TIME OUTSIDE. I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE THINGS WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERATE OF WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND THAT'S ALSO ADDRESSED IN OUR PCD. WE MENTIONED A SIX-FEET FENCE BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY DO WANT TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE LIVE HERE AS WELL. WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO FEEL LIKE WE'RE INFRINGING ON THEIR RIGHTS OR NOT BEING RESPECTFUL. WE ALL LIVE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL. ALSO, IF WE COULD GET OUR GUYS TO WORK AT 9:00 AT NIGHT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING. I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN. >> JUST PASSING ALONG THE COMPLAINTS. >> YES, MA'AM. >> ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? >> HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO YOU HAVE? >> WE HAVE A MAXIMUM OF FOUR EMPLOYEES, AND THEN OUR PEOPLE THAT ARE SUB -- OR THE OWNERS OF THE COMPANY, SO THERE WOULD BE FOUR OF US. >> LET ME REPHRASE. AT PEAK HOURS IN THE MORNING AND THE EVENING, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ON THE PROPERTY? >> EIGHT PEOPLE MAXIMUM. BUT IT IS STAGGERED. IT'S USUALLY TO DROP OFF THEIR TRUCK AND GET INTO A VEHICLE TO GO TO A JOB SITE. DURING THE DAY, TYPICALLY, THERE IS NOBODY THERE. THE GATE IS LOCKED. IT'S COMPLETELY CLOSED IN. IT'S NOT ANYWHERE THAT CUSTOMERS MEET. WE TEND TO MEET CUSTOMERS AT THEIR PROPERTY SITES, SINCE THAT'S THE NATURE OF OUR BUSINESS. SO, UNTIL THERE'S AN OFFICE BUILDING, WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING IN OUR PCD; THAT THAT MAY BE AN OPTION AT THAT POINT, BUT IT WOULD BE VERY LIMITED. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? >> NOT AT THIS TIME. >> ARE WE ABLE TO REBUT AFTER THE COMMUNITY -- >> YOU CAN JUST WAIT -- IF IT GETS CONTINUED, YOU CAN WAIT UNTIL THEN. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER 22. I HAVE TWO CARDS ON THIS ITEM. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AFTER THESE TWO CITIZENS DO, THEN WE'LL NEED A CARD FROM YOU. THE FIRST ONE IS JUSTIN WIEMER. >> GOOD EVENING. I PUT MY NAME ON A COMMENT CARD. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME AT A COMMISSIONERS' MEETING. I AM ONE OF THE OWNERS THERE. THE PICTURES THAT YOU SAW THERE, ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS THAT WE GOT FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE, THAT [01:50:01] WE WERE ADDING TRAFFIC TO THE AREA. I DON'T KNOW HOW FAMILIAR YOU ARE ALL WITH THAT AREA. BUT I THINK ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER IS WHAT'S RIGHT THERE. SO, WE'VE BEEN BLAMED FOR EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING FROM LOUD MUSIC TO LOUD NOISES, TO DUMP TRUCKS. SARAH ACTUALLY MISSPOKE WHEN SHE SAID DUMP TRUCKS. WE OWN ONE DUMP TRUCK. YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE PICTURE WE PASSED AROUND. WE PUT THOSE ON PICTURES SO YOU COULD SEE EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS. THE RACETRACK GAS STATION IN MIDDLEBURG, IT'S A MAJOR SOURCE OF COMMERCE. I WOULD GUESS THERE'S HUNDREDS OF BUSINESSES THAT USE THAT EVERY DAY. AND SINCE -- WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD THIS PROPERTY FOR A WHILE AND RECENTLY THIS HAS BECOME AN ISSUE. AND SINCE IT'S BECOME AN ISSUE, THEY HAVE CLOSED DOWN THE MEDIAN ON BLANDING BOULEVARD. IF YOU LEAVE THE RACETRACK AND WANT TO GO SOUTHBOUND, YOU HAVE TO GO DOWN -- I DON'T RECALL THE NAME OF THE STREET, BUT YOU HAVE TO GO PAST THE HOUSES. IT'S FROM THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES. THAT'S ONE THING THAT IS DEFINITELY WORTH NOTING. YOU SAW CARS PARKED ALONG THE STREET. THEY MADE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE DISTURBING HISTORIC MIDDLEBURG. THIS IS A MAJOR AREA OF TRAFFIC. ONE THING THAT SARAH DIDN'T POINT OUT -- THIS IS US RIGHT HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THIS. ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES, THEY'RE NOT ZONED COMMERCIAL, BUT THEY ARE CHURCHES. SO, THEY ARE USED IN AND OUT ALL DAY LONG. THIS IS -- THIS IS A SCHOOL HERE. THIS, AGAIN, IS ALL CHURCH PARKING, WHERE THEY DO FOOD GIVEAWAYS, SO THERE'S CONSTANTLY TRAFFIC LINING THE STREET. THEY'RE COMPLETELY LINING THE STREET. YOU CANNOT GET INTO THIS PROPERTY BY ANY POINT BY PASSING NO LESS THAN 10 BUSINESSES. WE GOT STATSTATE FARM, WE HAVE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS DOWN HERE, I MEAN, OFFICE BUILDING AFTER OFFICE BUILDING. I MEAN, THERE'S SO MUCH COMMERCIAL PROPERTY RIGHT HERE IN THIS AREA THAT I FEEL LIKE A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE WOULD BE THE ONE THAT STANDS OUT. UM, I THINK THAT IS ALL I HAD. OKAY. THANK YOU. CHERYL AKRIDGE. >> THANK YOU. >> SURE. JUST PULL THE MICROPHONE DOWN A LITTLE BIT SO YOU CAN SPEAK RIGHT INTO IT. >> BEFORE I READ WHAT I'VE WROTE TO ADDRESS JOSH, UM, AS FAR AS THE CHURCH GOES AND THE FOOD GIVEAWAY, THAT'S ONLY ON THURSDAYS, AND IT'S CONTROLLED. AS FAR AS HIS ONE DUMP TRUCK, YES, THEY USE BUTLER. IT'S A DIRT ROAD. UM, THE LAST MEETING I WAS HERE ON TUESDAY, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE 5TH, THEY SPOKE THAT THEY DIDN'T USE THAT ROAD. THE NEXT DAY, I PULLED IN MY DRIVEWAY, I COULDN'T GET MY PHONE OUT FAST ENOUGH TO PUT IT ON RECORD TO RECORD THE DUMP TRUCK GOING DOWN BUTLER, WHICH IS A DIRT ROAD. THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T USE. AS FAR AS COMMERCIAL, UM, THE AT&T BUILDING, MS. MUELLER, WHICH IS THEIR PIECE OF PROPERTY IS IN BETWEEN. MY UNCLE IS HERE. HE IS A RENTER. THAT IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR, WHICH IS MS. MUELLER'S PROPERTY THAT HE RENTS FROM. HE'S WOKEN UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'VE GOT PETITIONS HERE FROM THE CHURCH, WHICH HAS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND AN ELEMENTARY -- MIDDLEBURG ELEMENTARY. IT'S A HAZARD. THEY SAY THEIR GATE IS CLOSED. I'VE GOT A CD HERE, WHICH HAVE VIDEOS THAT I'VE DOWNLOADED, AND EVEN AS OF TODAY, I TOOK A PICTURE AND A VIDEO WITH THEIR GATE OPEN, WHICH IS A HAZARD FOR THESE CHILDREN, DURING SCHOOL HOURS. I MEAN, NO, AFTER SCHOOL GOT OUT AT 2:30 TODAY. SO, WHAT I WROTE WAS: I HAVE THE PETITIONS FROM THE CHURCH AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY'RE STILL CRANKING UP AFTER 6:00, BEFORE 7:00. THEY'VE GOT THEIR GATE OPEN, WHICH IS A HAZARD FOR THE KIDS. THEY DON'T EVEN TARP THEIR TRUCKS. [01:55:02] I'VE GOT PICTURES, VIDEOS OF THAT. OF THE DEBRIS IN THE BACK OF THEIR TRUCKS, THE DIRT. WE ARE RESIDENTIAL. WE'RE -- WE'RE OLD MIDDLEBURG, WE'RE HISTORICAL. UM, WE FOUGHT SO HARD TO HAVE IT HISTORICAL. THEY KNEW THIS WHEN THEY BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY; THAT IT WAS RESIDENTIAL. THEY HAVE BUSINESSES. THEY CAME IN. THEY CLEAR-CUTTED IT. THEY DIDN'T GET ANY PERMITS FOR ANY BUILDING, POLE BARN. EVEN AS FOR COMMERCIAL, UNTIL I PUT A COMPLAINT IN BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ALL UPSET OVER ALL THE NOISE. YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL WE HAVE OF OLD MIDDLEBURG. >> THANK YOU. >> I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO NOT POSTPONE THIS BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS TO SUFFER EVEN MORE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. UM, YES, SIR, COME ON UP. >> MY NAME IS RODNEY BLACK. I LIVE AT 2125 BUTLER AVENUE, MIDDLEBURG, FLORIDA. THE FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS IN 1984, I TRIED TO PUT A DAYCARE IN RIGHT NEXT TO THE PROPERTY OF THE SCHOOL, AND THEY TURNED IT DOWN. AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO LET SOMETHING LIKE THAT COME IN THERE? I MEAN, IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT. A DAYCARE RIGHT THERE AT THE SCHOOL, AND NOW YOU'RE WANTING TO PUT SOMETHING WITH THESE BIG TRUCKS GOING BACK AND FORTH, AND THERE'S TWO SCHOOLS AND A CHURCH WITHIN A HOLLERING DISTANCE. I MEAN, IT'S -- IT'S -- IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO BE SAFE. AND YOU KNOW LITTLE KIDS WALK UP AND DOWN THE SIDEWALK BACK AND FORTH TO HOME. THEY SEE THAT GATE OPEN, AND THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO WALK IN THERE AND SEE WHAT ALL THAT STUFF IS. THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF AUTOMATED MACHINES, BUT THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF PARTIALS THEY HOOK UP TO DO DIFFERENT JOBS, LINED UP ALL AGAINST THE FENCE. AND, IN FACT, LIKE I SAID IN THE '80S, THEY PASSED A LAW THAT THERE WOULD NEVER BE ANY BUSINESSES ON MAIN STREET, AND NOW YOU'RE TRYING TO CHANGE IT TO PUT A TREE-TRIMMING PLACE, OR WHATEVER THEY DO, AND SOMEBODY NEEDS TO SET THEIR CLOCK BACK ABOUT AN HOUR. THEY MIGHT LEAVE AT 7:30, BUT THEY DON'T START THEIR EQUIPMENT AT 7:30. >> THANK YOU, MR. BLACK. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> MR. OTTO, I ALREADY GAVE YOU YOUR THREE MINUTES. >> JAMES OTTO, 2908 BLANDING BOULEVARD. I'D REALLY APPRECIATE, I'M SURE A LOT OF US WOULD, IF WE COULD GET A BIGGER MAP, TOO. I MEAN, A SMALL MAP MIGHT BE ALL RIGHT, BUT A BIGGER MAP OF THE WHOLE AREA TO SHOW US EXACTLY HOW MUCH DENSITY WE GOT GOING THERE. ANOTHER THING THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR IS ROAD TRIPS. MAYBE I MISSED IT, BUT ROAD TRIPS ARE A HUGE THING ON BLANDING. I KNOW WE USED TO DO THAT WHEN WENDELL DAVIS WAS UP HERE, THEY'D DO THE ROAD TRIPS ALL THE TIME. YOU KNOW, WE -- WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT -- ON TOP OF THE SCHOOL, UM, IN YOUR DISTRICT, MA'AM, WHERE IT WAS AN ISSUE FOR THESE TRUCKS AND THESE KIDS TO BE AROUND. AND, HONESTLY, GOD BLESS THE TRUCKERS, BUT THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT MOST -- A LOT OF THEM DO. THEY TEAR UP OUR SIDEWALKS, THEY PARK ON OUR SIDEWALKS WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO. YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE FOR A WHILE. I'M GOING TO STAY ON TOPIC, MA'AM. BUT, HONESTLY, I MEAN, THESE START TIMES, AND THEY GOT NOBODY TO BLAME BUT THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES. [02:00:01] THEY REALLY DON'T. AND, YOU KNOW, THESE TRUCKS ARE GOING UP AND DOWN 24/7. THEY CAN'T SIT HERE AND SAY THESE TRUCKS DON'T GO ON THESE ROADS AFTER A CERTAIN TIME. IT'S ON BLANDING, RIGHT? >> NO, IT'S NOT. IT'S ON MAIN STREET AND MIDDLE OFB -- MIDDLEBURG. >> NOT THAT FAR DOWN. >> YEAH, WE'RE TALKING THAT SAME AREA WHERE THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS. THE ROADS ARE VERY LIMITED. VERY LIMITED. WE GOT CHURCH SERVICES WITH FOOD AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF ALREADY THERE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING IN OLD TOWN MIDDLEBURG UNLESS IT HAS TO DO WITH THAT HISTORICAL AREA. I MEAN, HONESTLY, HAVE YOU DRIVEN THAT ROAD? YOU'RE GOING TO STICK ONE DUMP TRUCK ON THAT ROAD? COME LOOK AT MY PROPERTY IN MARION COUNTY, AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THE TRUCKS ARE DOING TO THESE ROADS. >> OTTO, STAY ON THIS ITEM. >> PLEASE, MA'AM, GIVE US LARGER MAPS SO WE CAN SEE THE DENSITY AROUND IT. DON'T JUST GIVE US A LITTLE PICTURE SO YOU CAN PASS SOMETHING. HONESTLY, I MEAN, WE HAVE A RIGHT TO SEE THE ENTIRE PICTURE. >> OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. OTTO. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES, MA'AM. OH, YEAH, IF YOU TAKE IT OVER THERE, THE DEPUTIES WILL BRING AT TH IT TO US. >> I'M JACKIE WIEMER. I'M ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS THAT WERE STATED. NUMBER ONE, BUTLER IS A PUBLIC ROAD. ALL RIGHT. WE TECHNICALLY DO HAVE A RIGHT TO DRIVE DOWN IT IF WE DO. MULTIPLE VEHICLES, COMMERCIAL VEHICLES DRIVE DOWN IT, NOT JUST OURS. THE GATE IS ACTUALLY A COURTESY. WE TRY TO ACCOMMODATE OUR COMMUNITY. THE GATE WAS OPEN. I SAW HER TAKE A PICTURE OF MY MEN AT OUR PROPERTY. THEY WERE COMING IN FROM WORK AND HAD THE GATE OPEN. IT IS NOT LOGICAL FOR US TO HOLD UP TRAFFIC BY COMING IN WITH ONE VEHICLE, CLOSING THE GATE BEHIND THAT, COMING IN WITH THE NEXT VEHICLE AND HOLDING UP TRAFFIC. THAT'S NOT SMART OR SAFE FOR KIDS. OUR CREW IS VERY FAMILIAR. WE ARE IN A POPULATED AREA WITH CHILDREN. THEY ARE VIGILANT WHEN COMING OUT OF OUR GATES. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE SIDEWALK. WE WATCH OUT FOR THESE CHILDREN. MY OWN CHILDREN WALK FROM MY PROPERTY. FOR HER TO STATE THAT IT'S NOT ONE OF OUR CONCERNS IS A LITTLE OFFENSIVE. WE ARE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY. THIS IS OUR HOME. AS FAR AS PERMITTING, IN CLAY COUNTY, THERE'S NO PERMIT REQUIRED TO CLEAR OUR OWN PROPERTY, SO WE DID NOT PULL A PERMIT ON THAT. WHEREAS, WE DID NOT HAVE TO. UM, TRUCKS ARE COVERED AND REGULATED BY DOT. DOT LIKES TO FOLLOW OUR TRUCKS. IT HAS ITS COVER ON IT. WHEN IT IS PARKED AT OUR PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, IF IT COMES OFF FOR US TO THROW DEBRIS IN IT OR ANYTHING ELSE, IT'S COVERED BACK. IF IT'S NOT, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT WITH OUR STAFF. UM, WHERE WE ARE LOCATED IS NOT ACTUALLY HISTORICAL. WE ARE RIGHT ON THE BOUNDARY OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND THEN THE LAST ITEM, IT SAYS, KEEP IN MIND THIS IS -- THIS IS FACT-BASED, NOT FEELING-BASED AND WE ARE STILL REQUESTING TO EXTEND TO COINCIDE AND, YOU KNOW, REPRESENT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND MAKE EVERYTHING NICE TOGETHER. SO, THAT'S ALL. >> THANK YOU, MS. WIEMER. SO, I'M JUST GOING TO ENCOURAGE YOU WHETHER WE POSTPONE OR NOT, I DIDN'T CUT YOU OFF, BUT WE DON'T ADDRESS INDIVIDUALS. SO, BY YOU SPECIFICALLY SAYING THAT YOU WERE ADDRESSING ANOTHER PERSON'S RIGHT TO SPEAK IS -- IS NOT PROFESSIONAL AND APPROPRIATE FOR OUR FORUM, SO PLEASE DON'T DO THAT AGAIN. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. >> WE WILL CONTINUE TO MAY 23RD >> THE REQUEST FROM -- >> THE APPLICANT. >> MADAM CHAIR, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUATION OF THIS ITEM TO YOUR MAY 23RD MEETING AT 5:00 P.M. OR SOON THEREAFTER AS CAN BE HEARD. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE [02:05:05] TO MAY 23RD. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> I'LL SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DISCUSSION? >> I HAVE A QUESTION. I KNOW THIS AREA, BUT I DON'T REALLY KNOW THIS AREA -- LIKE, THAT SPECIFIC SPOT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD WANT TO HAVE THAT KIND OF COMPANY AT A PLACE LIKE THAT. WHY WOULDN'T YOU WANT TO GO IN THE WOODS SOMEWHERE? >> THIS IS BOARD DISCUSSION. >> THAT'S MY CONCERN. I DON'T KNOW. I HAVEN'T DRIVEN PAST IT, BUT IT JUST DOES SEEM LIKE SOMETHING YOU'D HAVE MORE OUT OF SUCH A BUSY AREA. AND THIS IS A BUSY AREA, RIGHT? >> IT IS A LITTLE UNUSUAL IN THAT YOU DO HAVE A CHURCH ACROSS THE STREET, YOU HAVE THE SCHOOLS TOWARDS BLANDING, GOING DOWN MAIN STREET. YOU HAVE ANOTHER CHURCH ON PALMETTO AND MAIN STREET. ONE OF OUR SPEAKERS TONIGHT SAID THAT HOME -- OR A HOUSE OUT THAT WAY IS THE ANOMALY, AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S TRUE. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE OR AN ACCURATE DEPICTION OF WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE. BECAUSE, UM, RIGHT UP MAIN STREET, THERE ARE HOUSES ON -- I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT, UM, MANY HOMES DOWN MAIN STREET, UP THAT PROPERTY. I THINK THAT'S A MISCHARACTERIZATION TO SAY HOUSES AREN'T THAT WAY. UM, PALMETTO STREET DOES HAVE A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY BEFORE YOU GET TO THE CIVIC CENTER THAT WAS DEPICTED ON ONE OF THOSE PHOTOS. BUT, AGAIN, THERE ARE HOMES OUT THAT WAY UNTIL YOU GET TO THE CIVIC CENTER AND THE KIND OF WAYNE. I DO FIND IT A LITTLE UNUSUAL. THE TYPE OF -- THE TYPE OF COMMERCIAL WORK THAT IS BEING DONE IS DISTINCT FROM WHAT THE OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ARE DOING. UM, AND THE OTHER THING THAT MAKES THIS A LITTLE DIFFERENT IS THAT IT IS OUTDOOR COMPARED TO THE PRINT SHOP THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET ON PALMETTO OR EVEN THE CHURCH AND THE SCHOOL, IT IS DIFFERENT. IT'S DIFFERENT. >> SO, UM, I WILL TELL YOU I HAVE HAD TONS OF NEGATIVE PHONE CALLS FROM RESIDENTS IN THE AREA ON THIS -- ON THIS APPLICATION. A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE, IN PAST COMMISSIONS, AND COMMISSIONER CELLA, YOU MAY REMEMBER SOME OF THESE, BUT APPARENTLY ON PALMETTO AND ON MAIN, THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTED TO BE RE REZONEDR COMMERCIAL AND NOT PASSED BY THE COUNTY COMMISSIONS IN THE PAST. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A UNIQUE SITUATION. SO, THEY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, AND THEY PUT THEIR BUSINESS THERE AND HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. AND THEN, WHEN THE RESIDENTS COMPLAINED, UM, THAT'S WHEN IT HAS COME TO -- TO THIS SITUATION. WHEN THE RESIDENTS COMPLAINED, UM, THAT'S WHEN IT HAS COME TO -- TO THIS SITUATION. COMMISSIONER COMPERE CHARACTERIZED IT VERY WELL. AND THEIR COME -- COMPATIBILITY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT BLANDING, YOU CAN'T COMPARE THAT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF WHERE THIS IS ON MAIN STREET. >> WHAT WILL HELP CONTINUE THIS? I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WILL CHANGE ANYTHING. YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO, WHAT WILL CHANGE? >> I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO TRY A PCD, WHICH IS GOING TO LOOK REAL -- MY -- MY FORECAST IS A PCD WILL LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. >> WOULD THAT MAKE IT MORE COMPATIBLE? WHAT IS THE REASONING? >> I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY COULD. >> THE -- THE LAND USE HAS -- HAS TO LINE UP WITH THEIR -- THEIR -- THEIR ZONING. >> ZONING. >> THEIR LAND USE TODAY IS RURAL-RESIDENTIAL. THEY CAN'T COME WITH A PCD ON RURAL RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE PCD IS PLANNED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THEY NEED IT CHANGED TO COMMERCIAL TO COME WITH A PLANNED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO, THEY'RE ASKING TO CONTINUE THIS TO MARRY THE TWO UP. THEY WITHDREW THEIR ZONING APPLICATION FOR NUMBER 23. THEY WERE NUMBER 23. TO REZONE THAT. THEIR ORIGINAL ZONING REQUEST WAS TO GO FROM, UM, THEIR [02:10:03] CURRENT ZONING TO, UM, BB4, WHICH IS INTENSE COMMERCIAL. >> MADAM CHAIR, IF I COULD? >> YES. >> I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THEY WANTED TO CONTINUE THIS IS BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO GET BACK BEFORE THE CAC, THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, CHARGES, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY, THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE BROUGHT UP AND THE NEIGHBORS HAVE BROUGHT UP. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THAT CONTINUATION. AS I LOOK AT THE MAP, UM, AND THE ZONING, UM, IF YOU COUNT THE -- IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY AND YOU LOOK TO THE LEFT-HAND SIDE WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING TO PUT THEIR -- CHANGE THE ZONING, THEY SAID IT'S COMMERCIAL, BUT IT'S REALLY RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURES, THERE'S SOME NICE PICTURES OF THE HOME ON THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY. THE OTHER SIDE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS, AND THAT IS WHERE -- WHAT? AT&T IS THERE? >> IT'S AN AT&T SWITCH BUILDING. >> THERE'S LITERALLY NO ACTIVITY IN THERE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, YOU'VE GOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS DISTRICT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS STREET, THAT'S WHERE THAT BOOKSHOP IS, ANTIQUE PLACE, LOOKS PRETTY BENIGN. THE REST IS EITHER AR OR PS1. SO, BOTTOM LINE IS I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, THE INTENSITY OF THE BUSINESS. THIS BUSINESS IS, YOU KNOW, OPERATING AND IT'S OPERATING ON PROPERTY, AND IT'S BEEN SEVERAL YEARS, YOU SAID, THEY'VE OPERATED THIS ON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. IT'S A NON-COMPLYING PROPERTY AS IT IS. THE BOTTOM LINE IS, I MEAN, I'M -- I'M READY TO VOTE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER NOW, AND MY VOTE I DON'T THINK WOULD CHANGE IN MORE THAN A MONTH FROM NOW. I MEAN, I MADE THE MOTION TO -- TO CONTINUE BECAUSE I WANTED TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE COULD DISCUSS. >> OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CONTINUE TO MAY SOMETHING. >> MAY 23RD >> MAY 23RD. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? AYE. MOTION FAILS 4-1. I'LL ENTERTAIN ANOTHER MOTION. NO OTHER MOTIONS? ITEM FAILS FOR LACK OF A MOTION. ALL RIGHT. UM, I'M NUMBER 23, WHICH IS [24.  Public Hearing to consider adoption of CPA-2022-19 and PUD-2022-11. (District 2, Comm. Compere) (D. Selig)] WITHDRAWN. I'M NUMBER 24. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF CPA 22-19 AND PUD 2022-11 IN COMMISSIONER COMPERE'S DISTRICT. WE HAVE A THICK STACK OF CARDS OF PUBLIC SPEAKERS. YOUR SWORN-IN TESTIMONY WILL BE FOR ITEM B, BUT WE WILL HEAR A AND B TOGETHER. ANY OF YOU WHO HAVE A CARD HERE, AND I'M NOT READING ALL OF YOUR NMES, BUT IF YOU HAVE A CARD AND YOU SPEAK, THE APPLICANT PLEASE STAND AND THE CLERK WILL SWEAR YOU IN. (SWEARING IN). >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SORRY. >> GOOD EVENING. >> GOOD EVENING. AS YOU SAID, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT TWO APPLICATIONS, ONE IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, AND ONE IS REZONING APPLICATION FOR THE SAME PROPERTY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE APPLICANT IS KIMLEY-HORN. >> CAN WE KEEP CONVERSATION TO A MINIMUM. >> THE PROPERTY IS TWO PARCELS 23.74 ACRES ALL TOGETHER. THIS IS IN THE DISTRICT. THE FUTURE LAND USE CHANGE WOULD CHANGE THE DESIGNATION FROM UC10, WHICH IS URBAN CORE 10 TO URBAN CORE 16 AND THEN THE ZONING CHANGE IS TO GO FROM AR TO A PUD. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. ON THE LEFT WE HAVE A MAP OF THE TWO PARCELS AND ON THE RIGHT AN AERIAL OF THE PARCELS OUTLINED [02:15:05] IN YELLOW JUST NORTH OF BLANDING BOULEVARD AND JUST WEST OF OAK LANE. THE MAP ON THE LEFT IS THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. THE RED IS COMMERCIAL AND THEN THE BROWN COLOR IS THE UC10, URBAN CORE 10. AND THE MAP ON THE RIGHT IS THE ZONING IN THE AREA WITH A HATCH IN THE CENTER. NEXT SLIDE. AND THIS IS A SITE PLAN, THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. IT WOULD BE PART OF THE PUD TO DEVELOP THE SITE WITH I BELIEVE IT'S NINE APARTMENT BUILDINGS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. CONSIDERING THE FUTURE LAND USE CHANGE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE VERSUS THE PROPOSED. THE CURRENT DENSITY THAT IS ALLOWED IS 10 UNITS PER ACRE. UNDER URBAN CORE 16, THAT CAN GO UP TO 16 UNITS PER ACRE. THERE IS A DENSITY BONUS OFFERED UNDER EITHER OF THESE TWO FUTURE LAND USES. YOU CAN GO UP TO 15 UNITS CURRENTLY IF IT'S A TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT, OR UP TO 16 UNITS IF IT IS AN ELDERLY OR HANDICAPPED OR VERY LOW, LOW OR MODERATE INCOME PROJECT. THE BONUS UNDER URBAN CORE 16 IS 20 UNITS, AGAIN, ONLY IF IT'S ELDERLY, HANDICAPPED, OR INCOME DEPENDENT. AND THE USES ALLOWED UNDER EITHER OF THESE FUTURE LAND USES ARE THE SAME, SO THAT DOES NOT CHANGE. SINGLE-FAMILY, MULTIFAMILY AND TOWN HOLMES. -- TOWN HOMES. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD BOTH OF THESE ITEMS ON MARCH 7TH. THEIR VOTE FOR BOTH ITEMS ACTUALLY WAS THE SAME. THEY VOTED 6-2 TO RECOMMEND DENIAL OF BOTH THE FUTURE LAND USE ITEM AND, ALSO, THE REZONING ITEM. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. STAFF'S GONE THROUGH THE CRITERIA FOR BOTH ITEMS AND FINDS THAT FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE AND ALSO FOR THE ZONING THAT THOSE CRITERIA WERE MET AND, THEREFORE, RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THAT'S IT. >> THAT'S IT? >> THAT'S IT. >> ANY QUESTIONS BY STAFF? WOULD THE APPLICANT PLEASE COME UP. (COUGHING). >> GOOD EVENING, STACY, 1 INDEPENDENT DRIVE. I'M ON BEHALF OF REPUBLIC PROPERTIES CORPORATION. WITH ME TOGETHER IS OUR TEAM. MARK SHELTON A CERTIFIED PLANNER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. I HAVE A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND BILL SCHILLING, CERTIFIED. WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND GIVEN ITS LOCATION AND IT'S COMPATIBILITY WITH THE AREA, I AM GOING TO TURN OVER TO OUR PLANNER TO DO THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARK SHELTON. I'M WITH KIMLEY-HORN. I LIVE IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. I'M BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF OUR PROJECT KNOWN AS REPUBLIC MULTIFAMILY. SHE GAVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW, THIS IS OFF BLANDING BOULEVARD. TO BEGIN, A SIMILAR PROJECT WAS PROPOSED IN 2005. AND THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR NEW SITE PLAN COMPARED TO THIS ONE. THIS SITE PLAN YOU SEE HERE IN 2005 CARRIED 320 UNITS ON 22 ACRES, WHICH IS A DENSITY OF 14.5 UNITS AN ACRE. IT CONNECTED TO BEAR RUN. DODI GAVE A GREAT OVERVIEW OF THE DENSITY. WE WANT TO POINT OUT THIS TABLE. WE TOOK A CAREFUL LOOK AT THIS [02:20:04] AVAILABLE DENSITY. IT WAS PURPOSEFUL WE DIDN'T TRY TO ACHIEVE THE MAXIMUM DENSITY. WE CAN GO AS HIGH AS 15 OR 16 UNITS AN ACRE. WE'RE NOT DOING 20 OR 16 UNITS AN ACRE. WE'RE PROPOSING 12.8. THIS AMOUNTS TO A 30% DECREASE FROM THE MAXIMUM POTENTIAL OF 380 UNITS. THIS DENSITY WOULD BE EVEN LOWER IF WE REMOVE THE WETLANDS ON SITE. IF WE REMOVE THE WETLANDS, OUR DENSITY WOULD BE A LITTLE OVER 11 UNITS AN ACRE. WE'RE KEEPING THREE ACRES TAKING OUR NET DENSITY UP TO 12.87. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS HOW THIS USE, IN THIS LOCATION, IS PRECISELY DESCRIBED AND DEFENDED BY YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS USE SATISFIES THE MARKET DEMAND. THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED IN INFILL DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE INSIDE THE URBAN SERVICE AREA. WE HAVE AVAILABLE PUBLIC FACILITIES AND SERVICES. WHAT'S INTERESTING IN FUTURE LAND USE POLICY, 1.5.4, NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS AT GROSS DENSITIES AT LESS THAN THREE UNITS AN ACRE WILL BE DISCOURAGED. IN THE LAST TWO POLICIES RECOMMEND AND ENCOURAGE URBAN INFILL IN URBANIZED AREA. SO, KNOWING THIS, AS SUCH, OUR SITE PLAN IS A LOT DIFFERENT FROM THAT WHICH YOU SAW IN 2005. IT'S A THOUGHTFUL AND DELIBERATE DESIGN IN CONSIDERATION OF LOCATION AND CONSTRAINTS. IT MEETS OR EXCEEDS THE CODE. WE'RE NOT CONNECTING TO BEAR-RUN AND ADDING MORE ACREAGE TO THE SITE. HERE'S AN EXHIBIT SHOWING OUR SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL USES. AS YOU CAN SEE TO THE NORTH, WE HAVE THE DOG PARK. THIS IS A COMMERCIAL DOG PARK TO OUR NORTHERN BOUNDARY TO THE EAST IS A MOBIL GAS STATION. WALGREENS AND SHOPPING CENTER AND COUNTY OFFICES AND FIVE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY AN INFILL SITE AS DEFINED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. PART OF THE REASON WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD SITE BECAUSE IT DOES PROVIDE A TRANSITION OF INTENSITIES. WITH THIS NEXT SLIDE, I'M SHOWING YOU THAT WE INCLUDED THIS EXHIBIT BECAUSE IT'S A COMMONLY ACCEPTED DEPICTION OF URBAN FORM. IF YOU FOCUS ON T6, THE URBAN CORE ZONE THROUGH BLANDING AND OAK LANE INTERSECTION. T5 IS A SHOPPING CENTER THERE NOW. BEHIND THAT, YOUR MULTIFAMILY AND APARTMENTS AND BEHIND THAT SINGLE FAMILY. THEN YOUR RURAL ZONE, T2, BAND THE NATURAL ZONE. THIS PROJECT LOCATION AND USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE BASIC PLANNING PRINCIPLE. AS PUBLIC FACILITIES AND SERVICES ARE EMPHASIZED, WE WANTED TO SHOW THE HOSPITAL, A TRANSIT STOP IS ACROSS THE STREET. TWO PUBLIC SCHOOLS, A HIGH SCHOOL AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ARE WITHIN ONE MILE. AND A FIRE STATION IS 1.6 MILES AWAY. ALTHOUGH POINTS DON'T MATTER FOR UC16, WE DID ACHIEVE A RELATIVELY HIGH SCORE OF 130 POINTS BASED ON THE URBAN SERVICE AREA POINT SCHEDULE. THIS IS EVIDENCE OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPLIANCE. AS ONE OF THE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED GOALS ALLUDED TO, THERE'S A MARKET DEMAND IN THIS AREA -- FOR THIS USE IN THE AREA. WE FOUND THAT 89% OF DWELLINGS IN CLAY COUNTY ARE SINGLE FAMILY. THAT, COMBINED WITH THE FACT THAT CLAY COUNTY HAS INCREASED IN POPULATION SINCE 2005 BY 52,000 PEOPLE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A VIABLE NEED TO SUPPORT A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL OPTIONS. THIS NEXT SLIDE SHOWS EXISTING MULTIFAMILY IN THE AREA. THE PURPOSE T -- PURPLE ARE TEN PLUS UNITS. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S THE ONE TO THE NORTH, THAT SQUARE IS THE MAVERICK TOWN HOMES AND TO THE SOUTH, WE HAVE CYPRESS POINT APARTMENTS. THE NEXT SLIDE DEPICTING A DELIBERATE PLAN TO EXPONENTIALLY INCREASE THE CODE REQUIRED [02:25:03] SETBACKS WHERE WE ARE ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY. WE WERE PURPOSEFUL TO MOVE OUR BUILDINGS AWAY FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY TO THEEST -- THE WEST. WE'RE PROPOSING 135 FEET, MORE THAN FIVE TIMES THE AMOUNT OF SET SETBACK. WE'VE POSITIONED DRIVEWAYS AND LIGHTING IN CONSIDERATION OF OUR NEIGHBORS. ALL LIGHTS WILL MEET REQUIREMENTS. THERE WILL BE NO LIGHT POLLUTION PER THE CODE. IN CLOSING, I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR WE HAVE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY RESERVED. WE APPLIED TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND WE RECEIVED THIS LETTER, WHICH SAYS THAT WE HAVE IT, AND WE CAN RESERVE IT, AND THAT THERE'S ROOM. HERE'S THE ACTUAL LETTER WE RECEIVED. WE WANT TO POINT OUT THIS PROJECT IS ONE OF A RARE OCCURRENCES WHERE THERE IS SCHOOL CONCURRENCY AVAILABLE AT ALL TYPES OF SCHOOLS. AGAIN, WE MEET THE LETTER OF THE LAW. WE ALSO WANT TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT WE HAVE COMPLIED WITH EVERY TRAFFIC ANALYSIS REQUESTED AND NOT RECEIVED ANY CAPACITY CONCERNS BY THE COUNTY OR STATE SEEK WITH THIS FDOT LETTER. FDOT STATES IN THIS LETTER THAT THEY DO NOT ANTICIPATE ANY SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACTS TO STATE ROAD 21/BLANDING BOULEVARD AND COORDINATING WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS. THE DEVELOPER WILL BE PAYING 291,000 IN MOBILITY FEES. ACCORDING TO YOUR MOBILITY FEE ORDINANCE, THIS MOBILITY FEE IS COLLECTED TO FUND THE CONSTRUCTION OF NECESSARY ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ATTRIBUTABLE TO GROWTH. WRONG WAY. QUICKLY, I WANT SHOW YOU THIS IS OUR TOTAL COUNTY BENEFITS. THERE WILL BE A LARGE SCHOOL IMPACT FEE. THE MOBILITY FEE, AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, AND, OF COURSE, THE COUNTY PIPE REPLACEMENT WHICH WE AGREED TO TO IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE IN THIS AREA. BEFORE I MOVE TO QUESTIONS, I JUST WANT TO MENTION A FEW QUOTES FROM YOUR PLANNING REPORT. THE SUBJECT PARCELS ARE LOCATED IMMEDIATELY BEHIND COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT FRONTS BLANDING BOULEVARD WHICH IS A SIX-LANE STATE ROAD CARRYING A HIGH VOLUME OF THROUGH TRAFFIC AND OFFERING SEVERAL MASS TRANSIT ROUTES. THE EXISTING AR DISTRICT DESIGNATION IS ILLOGICAL AT THIS LOCATION. THE CORRIDOR MAKES AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR MULTIFAMILY, INFILL DEVELOPMENT. SUBJECT PARCELS HAVE BEEN SURROUNDED BY INCREASED DENSITY AND INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT SINCE ORIGINALLY ZONED. IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE PLAN AND FURTHER THE COUNTY'S OBJECTIVE TO INCREASE RESIDENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH REDEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY INFILL -- ESPECIALLY INFILL IN AREAS OF HIGHER DENSITY AND TRANSIT ALTERNATIVES. FINALLY, THERE IS NO PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY MAINTAINING THE EXISTING AR ZONE DISTRICT AT THIS LOCATION. UM, BEFORE I END THIS, I WANT TO RESPECTFULLY REQUE FOR A REBUTTAL AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN CONTENTIOUS. >> I'M NOT SURE I'LL PROMISE TIME FOR REBUTTAL. WE HAVE 48 MINUTES OF SPEAKER CARDS. ARE THERE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR FOR STAFF BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD? OKAY. >> TOTAL NUMBER OF NUMBERS IS HOW MANY? >> TOLL -- TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS IS 270. >> I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANDLY BEGIN WITH THE SPEAKER CARDS, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU. WE WELCOME ALL PUBLIC COMMENT. HOWEVER, IF THERE IS SOMEONE -- IF A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS HAVE SAID WHAT YOU INTEND TO SAY, FEEL FREE TO YIELD YOUR TIME. I DON'T WANT TO CUT ANYONE OFF, BUT, AGAIN, 48 MINUTES OF SPEAKER CARDS, AND I KNOW THAT YOU ALL SPOKE FOR TWO HOURS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I BELIEVE ALL OF US HAVE WATCHED THAT AS WELL. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. I WILL CALL YOU UP AND THEN HAVE THE NEXT PERSON READY TO COME UP RIGHT THEREAFTER. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS MARY COOK AND RIGHT AFTER MS. COOK IS MARSHALL WOOD. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >> WHEN ALL OF THIS BEGAN, UM, [02:30:02] WE MET WITH THE DEVELOPER REPRESENTATIVES, AS WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD INITIALLY. WE TOOK THE POSITION OF COLLABORATION SERIOUSLY, AND WE HOPED FOR A WIN-WIN SITUATION. WE WANTED A MIX OF STRUCTURES WITH MEANDERING ROADS TO PROVIDE CHARACTER COMMUNITY, COMPLEMENTARY IN DESIGN AND SIZE FOR THE BEAR RUN COMMUNITY. WE KNEW THIS COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED BASED ON THE PROJECT. BY MIMICKING THAT PROJECT IN A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION AT OUR MEETING, IT WAS VIEWED AS UNPRECEDENTED AND RECEIVED WITH GREAT INTEREST FOR SUCCESS. WHEN WE MET WITH THE DEVELOPER REPRESENTATIVES A SECOND TIME, TWO OUR SHOCK AND DISAPPOINTMENT, REPUBLIC PROPERTIES SAID NO TO EVERYTHING THAT WAS NEEDED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. REPUBLIC PROPERTIES WANTS THEIR SIGNIFICANT DESIGN, THEIR DOUGHNUT ARCHITECT OF N NINE 30-UNIT, THREE-STORY BUILDINGS WITH A CIRCLE WITH PARKING IS SOMETHING YOU WOULD SEE IN A RESORT ENVIRONMENT. IT EMOTES A TURN KEY HOTEL DESIGN. WHERE ARE THE CHILDREN GOING TO PLAY? THIS IS NOT A FAMILY COMMUNITY DESIGN. IT WILL NOT BENEFIT THE CURRENT OR FUTURE CITIZENS OF CLAY COUNTY. THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE FOR ANYTHING TO BE BUILT ON THIS PROPERTY IS EGRESS. BEAR RUN COMMUNITY IS THE ONLY NEIGHBORHOOD ON BLANNING BOULEVARD THAT DOES NOT HAVE THE COUNTY SERVICE OF THEIR OWN TRAFFIC LIGHT. BEAR RUN CONSISTS OF 340 HOMES THAT IS A RANGE OF 600 TO 800 VEHICLES. THIS IS A DIRECT IMPACT ON ALL THE NEIGHBORS COMMUNITIES NORTH OF BEAR RUN. WITH THE LOCAL ROAD OF OAK LANE BEING IMPACTED THE MOST. THAT'S THEIR ACCESS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT IF A TRAFFIC LIGHT WAS INSTALLED AT BEAR RUN BOULEVARD AND BLANDING BOULEVARD, A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION OF THIS IMPACT ON OTHER INTERSECTIONS WOULD BE SEEN AND. TONIGHT, THIS 38-YEAR-OLD HISTORICALLY HEALTHY, STRONG, MULTI-GENERATIONAL FAMILY COMMUNITY OF BEAR- BEAR RUN IS DENYING THE REZONING APPLICATION AND PUT ON YOUR FUTURE AGENDA THE SAFETY AND WELFARE OF BEAR RUN COMMUNITY BY PROVIDING US WITH THE COUNTY SERVICE OF A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF BEAR RUN BOULEVARD AND BLANDING BOULEVARD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, MS. COOK. AFTER MR. WOOD IS DEBRA LIDDELL. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. WE HAVE LIVED IN THE BEAR RUN 2 SUBDIVISION FOR 30 YEARS. I'M A RETIRED MILITARY PILOT. CAPTAIN WANAMAKER AND I HAVE BEEN ON SHORT, FINAL ON A BADLY MISPERFORMING AIRPLANE ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS NOT KNOWING WHEN THE WHEELS TOUCH THE GROUND WILL HAPPEN. NOMINAL AIRCRAFT RECOVERY OR A FLAMING MISS. WE'RE ON SHORT FINAL WITH THIS ISSUE, AND WE MAY NOT HAVE A NOMINAL RECOVERY. WE MAY HAVE A REAL MESS THAT RESULTS FROM WHAT REPUBLIC WANTS TO DO. AND I AM HERE TO OPPOSE IT. WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BODY. I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THIS ISSUE. I WROTE A BOOK RELEASED IN 2014, PAGES 229-234 WOULD ADDRESS THE REASONS THAT HAVE NOT COME TO THE SURFACE HERE AND CAN'T FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS WHY I OPPOSE A 270-UNIT APARTMENT CENTER BEING PUT WHERE IT IS. OPPOSE IT GREATLY. ALSO, I STARTED A RADIO PROGRAM ON. >> WCGA. I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT ISSUES WHICH THIS REPUBLIC COMPANY WANTS TO DO IN OUR AREA. SPECIFICS. PERCEPTIONS ARE IMPORTANT. AND I DON'T IMPLY THAT YOU ARE [02:35:13] IMPEERIOUS PEOPLE, BUT IN MY COMMERCIAL PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE, I DON'T KNOW I'VE EVER SEEN MORE PEOPLE THAT WERE LESS ATTUNE TO WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO. HERE'S MY STATEMENT: THE PROPOSAL TO ADD 270 HOUSING UNITS ON THE 20-ACRE CORNER OF OAK LANE AND BLANDING AND MORE CRITICALLY A CONCENTRATION OF 400 TO 500 VEHICLES PROXIMAL TO THE TRAFFIC CHOKE POINT ON OAK LANE AND BLANDING SHOULD BE ON THE SURFACE INADMISSIBLE, CARTE BLANCHE, CIVIC DISCOURSE AND PROCEDURE NOTWITHSTANDING. THIS IS AN ILL-CONCEIVED IDEA. IT IS FRAUGHT WITH A LOT OF THE SAFETY ISSUES, BUT THERE ARE SOME SOCIAL AND INTEL ISSUES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN DISCOVERED THAT CAN'T BE IN THE FORUM. ANY PERSON ON THIS BOARD WHO APPROVES THIS ISSUE IS MAKING A SERIOUS MISTAKE. THREE MINUTES DOESN'T ALLOW TIME TO DEVELOP IT. >> THANK YOU, MR. WOOD. MS. LIDDELL. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. >> MA'AM, COULD YOU PULL THAT MICROPHONE RIGHT DOWN TOWARDS YOU. >> LIKE THAT? >> THAT'S GOOD. >> HAVING, UM, THEM BUILD THAT -- FIRST OF ALL, I'VE LIVED THERE SINCE 1986. BEFORE I MOVED THERE, BEFORE THE WALGREENS AND ALL THAT CAME IN THERE, THAT WAS ALL WOODED AREA. ONCE THEY BUILT THE WALGREENS AND ALL THAT LITTLE SHOPPING WHATEVER IT IS, THE WAY BEAR RUNS FROM THE TOP OF BLANDING, WE RUN THIS WAY. IT COMES DOWN LIKE A HILL. WHEN THEY PUT ALL THAT CONCRETE IN, IT WOUND UP FLOODING US OUT, OKAY. I HAVE THE FEMA FLOOD REPORT, WHICH SHOWS YOU THE FLOOD ZONES AND HOW LITTLE BLACK CREEK IS RIGHT BEHIND THE WETLANDS. WHEN WE HAVE A BAD STORM, WE CAN'T GET OUT OF BEAR RUN. SEE THE WETLANDS. HERE'S BEAR RUN. IT'S FLOODED. IN 2009, WE FLOOD. I GUESS ENGINEERS TO COME IN TO SEE HOW THEY COULD FIX CERTAIN THINGS. A LOT OF IT I DON'T BELIEVE HAS BEEN DONE BECAUSE WE'RE STILL GETTING FLOODED OUT. SO, WE HAVE TO -- WHEN OUR ENTRANCE FLOODS, WE CAN'T GET OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE TO GO OUT OAK LANE. IT'S ONE IN AND ONE OUT. SO, NOW YOU HAVE ALL BEAR RUN TRYING TO GET IN AND OUT DURING A BAD RAINY TIME. THEN YOU WANT TO PUT 540 OTHER CARS? THERE'S NO WAY. I LEFT -- I HAVE THESE PICTURES FOR YOU. IN FACT, I EVEN HAVE THE CLAY REPORT WITH YOUR PICTURE IN IT. AND I HAVE THE FEMA REPORT FOR YOU. BUT YOU CAN HAVE ALL THIS SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. OKAY. >> HELLO. I LIVE ON BEAR RUN BOULEVARD, 1338 AND THAT'S IN ORANGE PARK, FLORIDA. I HAVE CONCERN WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT BEHIND US. FIRST OF ALL, IT'S FLOODING. AND THEY'RE NOW GOING TO PUT IN A WHOLE NEW DEVELOPMENT. THEY'RE GOING TO BE CONCRETE, ASPHALT. I WAS UP THE OTHER DAY AND LOOKED AROUND. WHEN IT'S RAINING, THERE IS A PIPE ON THE WEST SIDE OF BEAR RUN. [02:40:03] THAT IS COMPLETELY COVERED OVER ON THE WEST SIDE. SOMEBODY HAD BEEN IN ON THE EAST SIDE AND CUT DOWN SOME TREE AND DRAGGED OUT SOME DIRT. BUT THIS IS CONNECTED TO DITCH WHO GOES INTO THE WETLAND. I WALKED BACK FAR ENOUGH TO SEE IT DIDN'T CONNECT TO THE STRIP MALL OR ANY OTHER LIVING AREA. ALSO, THAT IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE WATER COLLECTION DURING A HEAVY STORM. SO, TO FIX THAT, WE NEED TO GET NEW DRAINAGE. I HAD $40,000, $50,000 WORTH OF PIPE. THAT'S NOT EVEN THE BEGINNING OF THAT STORY TO GET THAT FIXED. ALSO, THEY HAVE CLAIMED THERE IS NO WILDLIFE IN THERE. WHEN I WAS WALKING AROUND THE OTHER DAY, I SAW A COUPLE OF DEERS RUNNING AWAY FROM ME. SO, DEFINITELY WILDLIFE IN THERE. THERE IS ALSO A LOT OF RACCOONS AND POSSUMS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. ALSO, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. IT WILL BE COMPLETELY CLOGGED UP, AND I WILL TRY TO THROW IN THIS. WHEN WE HAD THE MEETING OVER AT THE LIBRARY, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT SECURITY IN THE DEVELOPMENT. THAT IT WOULD NOT GO INTO THE SECURITY CONCERN. IT WAS KIND OF FISHY FOR ALL OF US. I ALSO TALKED TO BUSINESSPEOPLE IN THE AREA. A COUPLE OF THEM ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE THEFT AND CRIMES IN THE PLACE. THEY ACTUALLY RIGHT NOW DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LOCKED UP, BUT IT HAD BEEN LIKE THAT FOR A LONG TIME. THE GUY SAID HE HAD BEEN THERE OVER 25 YEARS AND NOTHING WAS STOLEN. HE WAS WORRIED ABOUT THIS STUFF. OKAY. THANKS A LOT. >> THANK YOU, SIR. JEFFREY ELKHOLM. >> I LIVE AT RUSHING DRIVE SINCE 1984. I JUST WANT TO SAY GOOD EVENING. AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME AND THE JOB THAT Y'ALL DO. MY CONCERNS IN THIS AREA IS MORE SAFETY. EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT THE FLOODING AND TALKS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. NOBODY TALKS ABOUT SAFETY. WE HAVE TWO SCHOOLS. WE HAVE RIDGEVIEW HIGH SCHOOL AND WE HAVE RIDGEVIEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. THERE IS NO BUS FOR THEM TO RIDE TO SCHOOL. OAK LANE IS A TWO-LANE ROAD, MAJOR ROAD FOR THE SCHOOL BUSES, FOR THE PARENTS, AND THE KIDS HAVE TO WALK. I SENT ALL THE COMMISSIONERS PHOTOGRAPHS OF OAK LANE INTERSECTION AND HARRISON. THERE IS NO CROSSWALKS. I SENT Y'ALL A VIDEO OF THE SIDEWALK ON HARRISON, HOW DEPLORABLE THAT SIDEWALK IS. IT'S NOT LEVEL, IT'S UNSAFE, THERE'S DEBRIS. YOU END UP WITH A ONE-FOOT AREA TO WALK ON THERE TO GO DOWN THROUGH THERE. IF YOU GO JUST PAST HARRISON ON OAK, THAT'S A ONE-LANE ROAD, AND THAT GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND TO THE SCHOOL. THE KIDS, THE SCHOOL BUS AND EVERYTHING ELSE COME OUT OF THERE. THEY DON'T WATCH FOR THE KIDS. OAK LANE -- OR HARRISON DOES NOT HAVE A LIGHT. THERE IS NO TRAFFIC -- THERE IS NO OVERHEAD STREETLIGHTS ON HARRISON. IN THE MORNINGS, IT'S DARK. THOSE KIDS ARE WALKING IN THE DARK. THERE'S NOTHING FOR THEM TO HELP THEM. OKAY. THE ZONING BOARD DID HAVE US MEET WITH THE DEVELOPER. WE HAD A SCHEDULED MEETING FOR ONE HOUR. THE FIRST 30 MINUTES, THEY HAD A PRIVATE MEETING WITH A DEVELOPER, A COUPLE OF THE RESIDENTS AND A COMMISSIONER. I DON'T KNOW WHICH COMMISSIONER, BUT THEY HAD A PRIVATE MEETING TO DO A COMPROMISE. WE NEVER WANTED A COMPROMISE. WE TURNED IN A PETITION SIGNED BY 95% OF THE RESIDENTS OF BEAR [02:45:02] RUN THAT DO NOT WANT THE APARTMENTS IN THERE. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND COMMISSIONER CELLA, I APPRECIATE YOUR ACKNOWLEDGING THE EMAIL. WHEN WE SEND EMAIL OR CORRESPONDENCE, WE SHOULD AT LEAST KNOW YOU RECEIVED IT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. DO I ASK THAT YOU VOTE NO ON THIS. >> THANK YOU, SIR. LARRY MAY AND THEN MS. ANN MARIE MAY. >> LARRY MAY, ORANGE PARK, BEAR RUN. WE'VE BEEN IN BEAR RUN FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS NOW, RAISED MY KIDS THERE. THEY'RE GROWN AND SUCCESSFUL AND THEY'RE GONE. I'M HERE, LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. DON'T LOVE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. REPUBLIC, I'M SURE, IS A FINE COMPANY. THEY HAVE A BEAUTIFUL IDEA. IT JUST DOES NOT FIT IN THE 21 ACRES THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PUT IT. WE'VE GOT CYPRESS POINT DOWN THE ROAD. THEY PUT IN SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT AND IT'S SCARY TO WATCH THOSE FOLKS TRY TO GET IN AND OUT OF THAT PLACE ON A DAYS-TO-DAY BASIS. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE MORE -- ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT. THEY CAN'T EVEN GET A TWO-WAY IN AND OUT. IT'S NOT -- IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA. I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. YOU GUYS KNOW WHERE I'M AT. I OPPOSE IT. I HOPE THAT COMMON SENSE PREVAILS AND YOU MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANN MARIE MAY AND THEN MATTHEW BRACKEN. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES, THANK YOU. >> I OPPOSE THIS PROJECT. OAK LANE IS ALREADY A HIGHLY CONGESTED ROAD WITH NO ABILITY TO BE EXPANDED IF WE ADD AN ADDITIONAL 500 MORE VEHICLES TO THIS MIX, IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A SAFETY HAZARD. THE PARKING SPACES AT THIS COMPLEX ARE ABOUT 500 SPOTS. SO, GIVE OR TAKE 4 OR 500 CARS. THERE ARE NO TURN LANES. I HAVE PERSONALLY SAT AT THE LIGHT ON OAK THROUGH MORE THAN ONE CYCLE TO GO STRAIGHT ACROSS BECAUSE THERE'S NO RIGHT-HAND TURNS. SO, TO ADD ALL THESE OTHER CARS TO THE MIX WOULD BE A REAL ISSUE. PLUS, THE HIGH TRAFFIC VOLUME WOULD BE VERY HARSH ON THE LOCAL BUSINESSES, THE GAS STATION, AS WELL AS WALGREENS AND THE RESTAURANT AND EVERYTHING IN THERE. IT WOULD BE HARD FOR PEOPLE TO TURN INTO THE PARKING SPOTS THERE. UM, THE DEVELOPER DID DO A TRAFFIC STUDY. IT WAS DONE ON A TUESDAY AFTERNOON FROM 4:00 TO 6:00 P.M. THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT THEY DID IS NOT -- IT DOESN'T WORK. BECAUSE WE GET MOST OF OUR TRAFFIC FROM THE SCHOOLS IN THE MORNING. WE HAVE RIDGEVIEW HIGH SCHOOL AND RIDGEVIEW ELEMENTARY STUDENTS AND BUSES THAT TRAVEL THAT ROAD, AND THEY STUDY WAS NOT VERY REALISTIC. AND I BELIEVE THAT THE TRANSITION FROM AN AGRICULTURE-RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING TO 270-UNIT, THREE-STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX IS NOT A GRADUAL TRANSITION, AND IT WOULD AFFECT THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I BELIEVE IF WE PUT LESS UNITS IN THERE, WE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT LESS -- LESS TRAFFIC AND ISSUES WITH THAT. AND, ALSO, THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN. THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS, THERE'S NO STREETLIGHT LIGHTS, AND YOU'RE PUTTING IN ALL THESE ADDITIONAL VEHICLES, AND WE'VE GOT TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN. AND AT THE ZONING MEETING, THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD DID GET UP THERE, AND HE DID MENTION THAT IF WE PUT IN THESE UNITS, THERE WOULD BE AN ISSUE WITH OVERCROWDING IN THE SCHOOLS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. MATTHEW BRACKEN AND AFTER HIM IS ELLIE BRACKEN. >> HI, MY NAME IS MATTHEW BRACKEN. ON LIVE ON B STREET IN BEAR RUN. I MADE THIS BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND [02:50:01] THAN THE GRAY AND BLACK MAP OF THE DEVELOPER. AS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED, THIS IS OAK LANE. IT'S TINY. THERE'S A GAS STATION HERE. IT HAS UNDERGROUND GASOLINE TANKS, NOT EASY TO MOVE. IT'S A BIG PROBLEM. THIS IS THE BIGGEST HILL IN CLAY COUNTY, I THINK, WHICH MEANS THAT FOR A FLAT ROAD HERE, IT HAS TO GO IN STEPS. THE ROAD IS SMOOTH, BUT HAVE TO HAVE STEPS HERE. THE WALGREENS HAS A BERM 15 FEET DOWN, LIKE, A 45-DEGREE ANGLE. YOU CAN'T JUST WIDEN THIS. GAS TANKS HERE AND A STEEP SLEEP HERE ON THE WALGREENS' SIDE. IT'S A NARROW, TWO-LANE ROAD JAMMED WITH BUSES IN THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON, ALL THE WAY BACK HERE. NOW, THE COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT THIS LOOKING LIKE A RESORT OR A HOTEL IS TRUE. IN THE MIDDLE IS THIS WETLAND AND A POND. THAT'S NOT RECREATIONAL AREA. THEY HAVE TO DO THAT. THEY MADE I SOUNDS LIKE IT'S OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF THEIR HEART. THEY HAD TO ADD THAT FOR THE DRAINAGE. BUT IT'S NOT ANY KIND OF RECREATIONAL AREA. IT'S SOMETHING THEY CAN LOOK AT. ALL THE 500 PLUS PARKING SPACES ARE ON THE PERIMETER OF THIS DOUGHNUT RING OF THREE-STORY HOTELS. WHERE WOULD KIDS PLAY? THE PARKING LOTS. THAT'S IT. THEY CAN'T PLAY IN THE SWAMP. THEY CAN'T PLAY IN THE POND. THE ONLY RECREATIONAL SPACE THEY HAVE IS INSIDE OF THE GATE, THIS LITTLE TINY AREA DESIGNATED AS THE POOL AND CLUBHOUSE. THAT THING RIGHT THERE. (INDICATING). 270 UNITS, MAYBE 700, 800 PEOPLE, 400, 500 CARS AND THAT'S THEIR RECREATIONAL AREA? WHERE ARE THE KIDS GOING TO PLAY? HOPSCOTCH ON BLANDING BOULEVARD? ARE YOU GUYS SERIOUS? THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE. YOU KNOW, THE ZONING BOARD, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, VOTED 6-2 AGAINST THIS PROJECT. IT WASN'T EVEN CLOSE. IT WAS, LIKE, RIGHT THEN. EVEN THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER, WHO WAS A VOTING MEMBER OF THE ZONING BOARD AS WELL, HE DID HIS FULL CONCURRENCY REPORT IF THIS WAS THAT AND SQUEEZE THIS THROUGH WITH THIS EXPECTATION, TECHNICALLY IT GETS CONCURRENCY, HE VOTED AGAINST IT. WHEN THEY SAY, OH, IT HAS SCHOOL BOARD CONCURRENCY, THAT WAS WITH 16 EXCEPTIONS AND IF THENS AND WHEREASES, HE VOTED AGAINST IT. IT TOOK THEM A MINUTE TO VOTE 6-2 AGAINST IT, AND I HOPE YOU'LL DO THE SAME THING. THIS IS A NIGHTMARE IN THE MAKING. IMAGINE GETTING A FIRE TRUCK IN THERE. CARS BACKED UP, ACCIDENT, PARAMEDICS, HOW WILL THEY GET IN THERE? PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THIS. >> THANK YOU, MR. BRACKEN. AFTER HER IS JANET SHANNON. >> HI, I'M ELLIE BRACKEN. I'M RELATED TO THAT MAN THAT JUST SPOKE. THERE'S A REASON WHY THE BOARD VOTED 6-2 RATHER QUICKLY. IT IS A NIGHTMARE. I'M HOPING EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM HAS BEEN TO THAT LOCATION. THE MAN SITTING IN THE CHAIR, SOMEBODY THERE SAID, OAK LANE'S NOT JUST A CONTINUATION OF BLANDING, DOWN TO A MINIATURE ROAD. IT'S DIRT DOWN THAT ROAD. IT'S A DIRT ROAD. THIS ISN'T GONNA WORK. MY HUSBAND AND I RIDE OUR BIKES AROUND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY SINGLE DAY. I'M VERY -- AND WE CAN SEE THE MADNESS OF IT ALL. IN FACT, WE'RE ACTUALLY ON VACATION THIS WEEK. I'M SO COMMITTED TO THAT WE DROVE UP TO COME TO THIS MEETING. SO, WE'RE VERY COMMITTED. NOW, HERE'S ANOTHER THING. HERE'S ANOTHER THING ABOUT THIS. CHANGING THE -- THERE'S NO RECREATIONAL AREA, THERE'S NO PLACE TO WIDEN THE ROAD, THEY KEEP SAYING, WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE BEAR RUN BOULBOULEVARD AND OF THE FOLKS THAT SIGNED THE PETITIONS, THE OTHER 5% WEREN'T AGAINST IT, THEY JUST WEREN'T HOME. SO, I'M SURE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 100%. THERE'S NOBODY IN THIS SUBDIVISION THAT WANTS THIS, AND THEY'RE ADAMANT ABOUT IT. WE DON'T HAVE AN HOA, BUT WE COMMUNICATE TO EACH OTHER. WE HAVE A PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP AND WE'RE A DAMN STRONG GROUP, PARDON THE FRENCH, I'M SORRY, AND WE ARE VERY ORGANIZED AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN. A GENTLEMAN THAT LIST NEXT DOOR TO ME WHO IS OLDER AND COULDN'T BE HERE BECAUSE OF FAILING HEALTH SAID IF THIS HAPPENS, THIS DEVELOPER IS GOING TO BE [02:55:04] STEALING GENERATIONAL WEALTH FROM EVERYBODY IN THIS SUBDIVISION THAT OWNS A HOME. THIS CANNOT HAPPEN. THESE ARE OUR HOMES. AND IT'S NOT JUST THAT ASPECT OF IT, IT'S ALSO -- IT'S ALSO WHERE ARE THE TEENAGERS GONNA GO? NOT JUST WHERE ARE THE KIDS GOING TO REEK -- RECREATE. THIS IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE CLAY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SO, AS COMMISSIONERS, YOU SHOULD BE MAKING SURE THAT THINGS ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SO PLEASE, I ASK YOU TO DENY THIS PROPOSAL. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. JANET SHANNON AND AFTER HER IS DAVID COPHAMMER. >> GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. I'M NOT A RESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M A DOG PARK PARTICIPANT. W GO EVERY DAY. ONE OF THE BEAUTIES OF THE DOG PARK IS THAT TREED SURROUNDING AREA, AND THAT'S WHAT BORDERS ALL OF THE HOUSES DOWN THERE. MY SUGGESTION IS, IN ORDER TO HELP RETAIN SOIL AND ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THERE, A BIG BUFFER, 50, MAYBE 100 FEET OF THAT NATURAL LAND BE LEFT FOR THE TREES, BIRD, ANIMALS FOR THE INHERENT WILDLIFE FOR THAT AND THE PEACE OF QUIET OF WHOEVER IS A TENANT IN THIS. CAN YOU IMAGINE LOOKING OUT YOUR APARTMENT BALCONY AND RIGHT OVER THAT SIX-FOOT FENCE ARE THE DOGS. THE DOGS WILL BARK. IT WON'T BE REAL NOISY, BUT THE KIDS ARE GOING TO THROW STUFF OVER THE FENCE. YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH KIDS IN THERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE A DOG AND THEY'D LIKE ONE. SO, MY REQUEST IS THAT YOU THINK ABOUT A BUFFER ZONE IN THAT DEVELOPMENT OR ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT TO PROTECT THE HOUSES AT THE BASE OF BEAR RUN AND THAT COMMERCIAL AREA NEXT TO THE DOG PARK SECTION. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. DAVID COPHAMMER AND AFTER HIM IS TOMAS SCULLY. >> HELLO, EVERYBODY. DAVID COPHAMMER. I'M THE OWNER OF POOCHIES PARK. I WANT TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS. THIS YEAR -- LATER THIS YEAR, IT WILL BE ABOUT 20 YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS. SO, I'VE BEEN THERE THE WHOLE TIME. I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW THE AREA REALLY WELL. I DON'T LIVE THERE, BUT, UM, I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW THE BEAR RUN NEIGHBORHOOD. I FIND THEM TO BE JUST, LIKE, A REALLY EXCELLENT NEIGHBOHOOD, WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE, THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT WILL TELL THAT TEENAGER TO SLOW DOWN, YOU KNOW, THEY TALK TO EACH OTHER, THEY TALK TO ME. WHENEVER THIS PROJECT BEGAN, WHEN THE SIGNS WENT UP AND WE FIRST HEARD ABOUT THINGS, I WAS WONDERING, LIKE, AM I FOR IT AND AGAINST IT? I WAS NEITHER IN THE BEGINNING. I WANTED TO SEE WHAT'S IT ABOUT. UM, I COULD BE FOR IT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE JUST AN INCREASE IN CUSTOMERS FOR CATCH POOCHIES AND ALL THESE PEOPLE IN APARTMENTS WON'T HAVE LAND. IT WILL BE GREAT FOR US NEXT DOOR. THEN I THOUGHT ABOUT ALL THE CONS. THE BIGGEST ONE IS THE TRAFFIC. I JUST DON'T THINK -- ON PAPER, THE PROJECT PROBABLY LOOKED REALLY GOOD TO AN OUTSIDER, WHERE IT'S LOCATED AND ALL THAT, AND THE DEVELOPERS, THEY WERE REALLY NICE. THEY MET WITH US, SO WE CONSIDERED EVERYTHING THEY SAID. EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS GOOD ON PAPER, AS SOMEONE THAT'S BEEN THERE A WHILE, I JUST THINK IT'S TOO BIG. I THOUGHT THAT IT SHOULD BE -- WE'RE NOT AGAINST PEOPLE LIVING THERE, BUT IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT TOO BIG TO PACK IN. MAYBE, LIKE, 100 LESS UNITS OR SO, THAT WOULD BE MORE FITTING. AND LIKE I SAID, THAT'S IT. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. THOMAS GULLEY AND MEL ADAMS. >> HI, MY NAME IS TOM GULEY. I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH ON THE [03:00:01] TRAFFIC SITUATION. I DIDN'T MAKE THE SECOND MEETING. I WAS AT THE FIRST MEETING WHERE IT WAS VOTED FOR, AND A PERSON FROM THE FDOC SAID AT THAT TIME WE DID A TRAFFIC STUDY FROM 5:00 TO 6:00 P.M. LET ME TELL YOU WHAT, YOU'RE ONE HELL OF A COUNTER IF YOU CAN COUNT CARS IN ONE HOUR AND TURN AROUND AND SAY, OKAY, WITH OUR CALCULAT CALCULATIONS, EVERYTHING'S FINE AND DANDY. THAT WAS NOTHING BUT A BLATANT LIE. EVERYBODY KNOWS BLANDING BOULEVARD FROM 295 AS FAR SOUTH AS YOU CAN GO IS A MESS. THEY DON'T NOW HOW TO SET UP THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS. NOTHING HAS TURN SIGNALS ON EVERY INTERSECTION. FOR THAT GENTLEMAN TO COME AND SAY THAT, IT'S JUST LYING TO US. THE ONLY WAY YOU DO A TRAFFIC STUDY -- I'M 68 YEARS OLD, I MOVED FOR TEXAS IN 38 YEARS, MOVED DOWN HERE WHEN I RETIRED. EVERY INTERSECTION IN EVERY STATE, A BLACK HOSE. IT WILL SIT THERE FOR TWO, THREE, MAYBE SEVEN DAYS. YOU GET AN ACCURATE ACCOUNT OF THE TRAFFIC, THE TIME OF DAY IT GOES BY, AND YOU'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON. YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET THAT IN 60 MINUTES WORTH OF TIME SITTING THERE, I DON'T CARE WHO YOU ARE. YOU CAN BE THE BEST CALCULATING MATHEMATICIAN IN THE WORLD. YOU'RE LYING RIGHT TO OUR FACES WHEN YOU SAY THAT THIS IS HANDLE IT. EVERYBODY KNOWS FDOT DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING WHEN IT COMES TO THIS ROAD. SO, PLEASE TAKE THIS IN MIND. DO NOT LET THIS GO THROUGH. IF THAT GENTLEMAN WAS THERE WHEN THE SCHOOL BUSES COME AND GO IN THE MORNING, WE WOULDN'T THINK TWICE ABOUT SAYING YES. BESIDES, JUST OAK LANE, THEY GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO PICK THE KIDS UP AND EVERYTHING ELSE. BUT IT'S JUST A TOTAL MESS. I CAN'T EMPHASIZE THAT ENOUGH. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. PLEASE VOTE THIS DOWN. PLEASE. >> THANK YOU. MR. ADAMS AND THEN JASON COOK. >> MR. ADAMS, 3199 BEAR RUN BOULEVARD. WITH THE TRAFFIC ON OAK LANE, IT'S NOT PREPARED FOR ANY OF IT. BUT WHAT I SEE ON BEAR RUN, EARLY IN THE MORNING, IS THE BUSES AND THE STUDENTS, MAYBE TEACHERS, I DON'T KNOW. I WALK THE DOGS EVERY DAY IN THE MORNING. AND I'M SIDESTEPPING BUSES, NOT PICKING UP KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY'RE CUTTING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AS THIS GENTLEMAN BACK HERE SAID THAT'S THE APPLICANT, THERE'S NO REASON FOR OUR PEOPLE THAT'S GOING TO BE LIVING IN APARTMENTS TO GO THROUGH BEAR RUN. WHEN THEY'RE TIRED SITTING AT THAT LIGHT UP THERE EVERY DAY, THEY'RE GOING TO CUT THROUGH MY NEIGHBORHOOD, OUR INUNNEIGHBORH TO GET AROUND TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOOD. WHAT HE'S THINKING IS TOTALLY OUT TO LUNCH. THEY'RE COMING THROUGH THERE. THEY'RE SPEEDING THROUGH THERE. BUSES, STUDENTS, PEOPLE, EVERY DAY, EVERY HOUR, ESPECIALLY DURING THE MORNING AND THE AFTERNOON. IT'S NOT BUILT FOR WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. AND IT AFFECTS ME DIRECTLY BECAUSE THEY'RE BEHIND ME. I HATE SO SAY, NOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I'LL BE LOOKING AT IT BECAUSE THEY'R RIGHT BEHIND ME. I'M NOT FOR IT. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM IS FOR IT EXCEPT FOR THIS COUPLE OVER HERE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >> THANK YOU. JASON COOK AND AFTER HIM, FRANK SEGOMA. >> HI, JASON COOK. I'LL YIELD BACK MOST OF MY TIME. TODAY AT 12:15, TRAFFIC WAS BACKED UP PAST THE ENTRANCE WHERE THESE APARTMENTS WOULD BE ON OAK LANE. IT WILL ONLY GET WORSE FROM THERE. SO, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, TRAVELING FROM OAK LANE OVER TO WINN-DIXIE, YOU CAN'T USE THAT GREEN LIGHT AS A GREEN LIGHT BECAUSE SOMEONE IS GOING TO TURN LEFT IN FRONT OF YOU. I HAD TO SLAM ON MY BRAKES, BUT I GOT DINGED BY MY INSURANCE. COMING BACK TO MY HOUSE IN BEAR RUN, IT TOOK ME 15 MINUTES TO GET FROM WINN-DIXIE TO MY HOUSE BECAUSE THE LIGHT ON NIGHTBOX WAS DEADV -- BUSY FOR TWO CYCLES. FOUR BUSES FOLLOWED ME THROUGH TO PICK UP KIDS FOR THE DAY. THAT'S ALL. >> THANK YOU. >> FRANK SEGONA AND JAMES OTTO [03:05:11] AFTER HIM. >> MY NAME IS FRANK. I LIVE AT 1324 BEAR RUN BOULEVARD. I'VE LIVED THERE SINCE 1991. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT THE DEVELOPER DID. HE USED THE REFERENCE OF THE FDOT20 -- HANDBOOK AND CLASSIFIED OAK LANE AS A LEVEL OF SERVICE D CLASS 2, NONDIVIDED, NONSTATE HIGHWAY. THAT SAME REFERENCE DEFINES OAK LANE AS A LOCAL RESIDENTIAL ROAD. THE DEVELOPER SAID THAT OAK LANE CAN HANDLE 1200 CARS PER HOUR. IN THE -- [LAUGHTER] >> NO, NO, NO. STOP, PLEASE. >> LAKE COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT DEFINITION FOR LOCAL ROAD, THE SAME AS FDOT. THE AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC FOR A LOCAL ROAD IS 1600 CARS IN 24 HOURS, THAT'S 66 CARS PER HOUR. THE TRAFFIC WOULD CAUSE FRUSTRATED DRIVERS TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE AND CAUSE ACCIDENTS. BY GOING THROUGH GAS STATION OR GOING THROUGH THE WALGREENS TO GET ON BLANDING. THEY ALSO -- THEY'RE ADDING AN EGRESS TO THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS A GOOD IDEA. BUT THE EGRESS ENTRANCE/EXIT IS ON OAK LANE ALSO. SO, IT WOULD BE MAYBE 100, 200 FEET FROM THE MAIN ENTRANCE. SO, THE EMERGENCY EGRESS DOESN'T HELP. THESE FEW MEETINGS THAT I'VE ATTENDED, THERE'S TALK ABOUT URBAN SPRAWL. WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT URBAN SPRAWL. SO, I READ THE STATUTES WHICH IS REGULATIONS FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ONE OF THE INDICATORS THAT YOU'RE NOT DOING IT RIGHT IS WHEN YOU DEVELOP THE LAND WITHOUT DEVELOPING THE INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING THE ROADS. SO, THE RESIDENTS SUFFER WHEN YOU DEVELOP THE LAND WITHOUT IMPROVING THE ROADS, AND YOU'RE CAUTION URBAN SPRAWL. THIS INCREASES TRAVEL TIME, HOW LONG A DRIVER HAS TO WAIT FOR A LIGHT, FRUSTRATED DRIVERS. AND THEN THE COST FOR IMPROVING CATCH UP, AND YOU MIGHT IMPROVE THE ROADS THREE, FIVE, TEN YEARS LATER AND WE HAVE TO SUFFER FOR ALL THIS TIME AND PAY THE EXPENSE IN TAXES. SO, MY OPINION IS THIS PROJECT SHOULD BE PUT ON HOLD UNTIL OAK LANE CAN BE APPROVED, AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, SIR. MR. OTTO. >> YES, MA'AM, THANK YOU. JAMES OTTO, 2908 BLANDING BOULEVARD. UM, YEAH, THERE'S HUGE ACCIDENTS AT THE -- AT THIS INTERSECTION. YOU TALK ABOUT NIGHTBOX WHERE IT'S A HILL RIGHT THERE. SIDEWALK ISSUES IS -- WAS -- WAS LED BY STEPHANIE TRYING TO CREATE SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE HERE THROUGH OUR PARKS. AND I DO APPRECIATE THE CHAIR TAKING CARE OF THAT U-HAUL ISSUE. I THINK THAT WAS YOU THAT DID THAT, BUT THEY MOVED. THIS IS -- YOU KNOW, I KIND OF MIXED IT WITH THE OTHER ONES. BEAR WITH ME A SECOND. UM, THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, LIKE CLAY TRANSIT HAS TOTALLY FAILED THIS COMMUNITY. IS THIS GOING TO BE A PART OF A GRANT WHERE THE TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING PART OF THIS? I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF GRANT MONEY OUT FOR PUBLIC HOUSING. A LOT OF THESE PRICES ARE COMING DOWN NOW, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS THE HURRY ON TRYING TO BUILD EVERYTHING AND CONTRACT EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW. GOVERNMENT IS CONTRACTING IT. YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT IS SMART WOULD JUST HOLD OFF. AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR -- OUR ROADS, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE PAYING. EVERYBODY THAT COMES IN FRONT OF YOU THAT WANTS A CHANGE, HOW MUCH ARE THEY GIVING OUR SCHOOLS? HOW MUCH ARE THEY GIVING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, HOME, MA'AM? THEY WANT TO DUMP THESE PEOPLE [03:10:03] HERE. THERE'S PEOPLE HERE THAT NEED TO BE CARE OF BEFORE NEW PEOPLE COME IN. I AGREE. WE NEED PUBLIC HOUSING. WE REALLY DO. BUT IS THIS THE RIGHT PLACE? IT MIGHT BE. I HAVEN'T REALLY LOOKED AT IT. IT'S THERE BY BLANDING BOULEVARD BUT WE CAN'T HAVE PUBLIX ISSUE. PUBLIX IS A DRIVEWAY, I MEAN, HONESTLY. I GOT ALL THESE COMMENTS. THE COMMISSIONERS REALLY NEED TO CARE ABOUT WHO'S REALLY HERE AND NOT ABOUT TRYING TO BRING PEOPLE HERE. I MEAN, THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE REALLY UPSET AND YOU GUYS ARE PAWNING OUT ALL THIS WORK TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T EVEN LIVE HERE AND WE WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH THIS MESS. HONESTLY, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, JTA WAS HERE TALKING ABOUT TAXES. WE NEED A TAX FOR ALL THIS STUFF THAT'S RIDING ON OUR SIDEWALKS. >> STAY ON THIS ONE, MR. OTTO. >> THE GENTLEMAN WAS UP HERE TALKING ABOUT SIDEWALKS AND STUFF BEING DESTROYED. THAT'S WHAT I'M COMMENTING TO. I MEAN, THIS COMMISSION NEEDS TO STOP THE TRAVELING ON OUR SIDEWALKS WITH MOTORIZED VEHICLES, AND YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT BEING OUT IN THAT AREA. >> THANK YOU, MR. OTTO. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? WE DON'T HAVE CARDS ON ALL OF YOU. WERE YOU SWORN IN? >> YEAH. >> OKAY. CAN YOU COME UP? OKAY. WE'LL DO IT AFTER THIS GENTLEMAN SPEAKS. >> I'M DOUG SKILES. I DESIGNED THE DRAINAGE. I WANT TO SPEAK QUICKLY. I KNOW THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT THE DRAINAGE OF THE SITE. WE ARE REQUIRED BY STATE LAW AND COUNTY ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE WE DESIGN A SITE THAT MITIGATES ANY NATIVE -- PAVEMENT WE PUT IN. THE WATER WILL BE EQUAL TO OR LESS THAN THE WATER NOW. AS YOU'RE ALL AWARE, THE SITE DOES HAVE CONSIDERABLE SLOPE TO IT. THERE ARE SEVERAL NATURAL DITCHES THAT HAVE FORMED. THEY ALL COME TOGETHER JUST NORTH OF THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, RIGHT BEFORE IT CROSSES BEAR RUN ROAD. WHEN WE WERE DOING OUR INVESTIGATION, WE WERE THE ONES THAT CUT THE LITTLE TREES DOWN. WE FIGURED THERE HAD TO BE A PIPE THERE. SURE ENOUGH, WE FOUND ONE BURIED, 18-INCH PIPE, COMPLETELY FULL. WHEN WATER LEAVES THAT SITE, THE ONLY WAY IT CAN GET OUT IS TO GO ACROSS THE ROAD. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS PUT IN A NEW 24-INCH PIPE THAT WOULD TAKE WHATEVER WATER THAT COMES OFF OF OUR SITE AND GET IT OVER INTO THE WETLAND THAT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF BEAR RUN. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY DURING YOUR DISCUSSION. >> THANK YOU. I SAW A LADY IN THE BACK WHO HAD HER HAND RAISED TO SPEAK. IS THERE SOMEONE ELSE? OKAY. WE HAVE ONE LAST GENTLEMAN. HAVE YOU SPOKEN ALREADY? OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? DID YOU STAND EARLIER? OKAY. IF YOU'LL STAND AND YOU'LL STAND, SIR, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. (SWEARING IN). >> THANK YOU. I'LL TAKE YOU FIRST. YES, THEY'LL GET IT TO YOU AFTERWARD. SO, CHRISTIE, WE VA THIS GENTLEMAN, THE GENTLEMAN IN GRAY AND THEN THE GENTLEMAN IN TEAL BEHIND HIM. >> I LIVE AT 1327 B STREET NORTH, FLORIDA. I KNOW EVERYBODY IS BEATING ON OAK LANE. BEAR RUN IS ALSO AN ISSUE, AND PEOPLE SAY, OH, YOU CAN EXIT THAT WAY. IF YOU'VE EVER TRIED TO DO THAT DURING RUSH HOUR AND GO NORTHBOUND, IT'S NOT HAPPENING. IF YOU WANT TO EXIT TO THE SOUTH, YOU CAN WITH AT RISK, BUT DURING THOSE PERIODS, YOU'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE GO OUT OAK LANE. THERE'S NO GOOD ALTERNATIVE AT THIS POINT FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN YOU WANT TO ADD ALL THESE EXTRA CARS. ALSO, THEY SAY THE DRAINAGE STUFF. I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 1989, AND I HAPPEN -- THE SPOT WHERE I AM IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FEW PLACES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WASN'T REZONED AS A FLOOD AREA WITH THE MOST RECENT FEMA MAP. ONE OF THE THINGS IS, LIKE, I HAVE A DITCH BEHIND MY HOUSE. WELL, WHEN I FIRST MOVED THERE, IT WAS APPROXIMATELY TWO FEET DEEP. JUST FROM ALL THE EXTRA RAIN OVER THE YEARS, BECAUSE THEY KEEP CHANGING THE FLOODPLAIN AROUND THERE AND THE BUILDINGS [03:15:02] AND THE RUNOFF AND ALL THAT, NOW IT'S ABOUT 10 FEET DEEP BEHIND MY HOUSE AND PROBABLY ABOUT 8, 10 FEET ACROSS AND ALSO ERODING MY YARD. THE COUNTY IS, WELL, THEIR SOLUTION IS TO DIG MORE DIRT. I HAD TO GET THIS EXTRA CONCRETE AROUND. THEY'RE CONSTANTLY THROWING MORE CONCRETE IN THERE AND THAT'S NOT HELPING THE REST OF THE AREA, TOO, IT IS, OBVIOUSLY, GOING SOMEWHERE AND NOT JUST DOWN THERE IN THE PIPE. IT'S INCREASED OVER THE YEARS. THAT'S REALLY ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY. >> THANK YOU, SIR. THE GENTLEMAN IN THE GRAY. >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. ALLEN SCARBOROUGH, 3201 SOMERSET DRIVE. I DON'T WANT TO SAY NOTHING THAT HASN'T BEEN SAID. MY BIG CONCERN ABOUT APARTMENTS BEING THERE, I'VE DONE RIDE AALONGS WITH SHERIFF DEPUTIES. I DON'T WANT ANY THEFT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT GOING ON NEAR ME. IT SCARES ME. THAT ALONE SCARES ME. TRAFFIC AIN'T NO GOOD, YOU KNOW, THE FLOODING. THE LIGHTING, THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE THAT CORRECT. AS THE YEARS GO BY, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX WILL DETERIORATE AND THE PEOPLE MOVING INTO IT WILL ALSO BE LOWER-GRADE, NOT THAT I'M PUTTING MYSELF ABOVE ANYBODY, BUT, AT THE SAME TIME, I'VE LIVED IN APARTMENT COMPLEXES. THEY'LL WRITE A BACK CHECK TO GET IN THERE AND THEY'RE TROUBLE. THEY'RE TROUBLE TO SURROUNDING AREA, THEY'RE TROUBLE TO THE COMPLEX THEY'RE LIVING IN. I DON'T WANT THAT NEAR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU, SIR. THE GENTLEMAN IN TEAL. >> GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH YOU. MY NAME IS JOHN GALLOP. I'VE BEEN IN THAT AREA. I'M SORRY, I LOVE AT 1244 B STREET NORTH ORANGE PARK. I'VE BEEN THERE 35 YEARS. I WAS ALSO ON THE PATROL, THE PEOPLE'S PATROL, AND IT WAS VERY, VERY SAFE IN THAT AREA. AND I'M -- THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN RIGHT NOW, IS ABOUT THE TALK ABOUT THE LOW-INCOME -- YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM THEM, THEY NEED A PLACE TO LIVE. BUT WE'RE NOW, AFTER 30 SOMETHING YEARS, JUST IN THE LAST YEAR, I HAVE SEEN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ON BEAR RUN BOULEVARD AND ON B STREET BECAUSE OF PROBLEMS. JUST A MONTH OR TWO AGO, THEY HAD CARS BEING BROKE INTO ON BEAR RUN BOULEVARD, AND WE NEVER HEARD OF THAT. ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE'RE HAVING THEM KIND OF TROUBLES. ALSO, DOWN THE ROAD, ON BLANDING, THERE'S A GREAT BIG APARTMENT COMPLEX FOR SENIOR CITIZENS AND NORTH OF IT, ANOTHER COMPLEX GOING IN THERE FOR SENIOR CITIZENS, FOR US THAT DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY. YOU GO DOWN OLD JENNINGS ROAD AND THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER SENIOR CITIZEN APARTMENT COMPLEX GOING IN THERE, WHERE YOU TURN TO GO UP 23 OFF OLD JENNINGS ROAD. MY REAL CONCERN IS SAFETY. THE CHILDREN. WE'VE HAD -- OUR CHILDREN, I'VE SEEN THEM PLAYING AND STUFF, AND WE GOT TO WATCH THEM LIKE A HAWK NOW BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE TRAFFIC IS NOW. 220 APARTMENTS, WE'RE TALKING 300, 400 CARS. THEY'RE GOING TO COME DOWN AND AROUND OUR AREA. THEY COME DOWN OUR ROAD, AND IT'S A DEAD END. NOBODY SEES THAT IT'S A DEAD END BECAUSE THERE'S NO SIGN TO SAY "DEAD END" OR NO WAY TO COME OUT. I REALLY AND TRULY HOPE YOU ALL VOTE AGAINST THIS, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE A SMART GUY. REMEMBER, WE'RE THE ONES THAT VOTE FOR EVERYBODY. FOR DIFFERENT AREAS. SO, YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE CITIZENS RATHER THAN JUST THE BIG CORPORATIONS. AND THANK YOU -- WELL, I WON'T SAY TOO MUCH. THE TRANSPORTATION THING, I KIND OF GOT UPSET WITH BECAUSE I THOUGHT, WE GOT A FANTASTIC SCHOOL BOARD TRANSPORTATION, WHY [03:20:01] AREN'T WE USING THEM TO SET UP THE BUS SYSTEM IN CLAY COUNTY INSTEAD OF HIRING SOMEBODY FROM OUT OF OUR COUNTY? THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >> ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR A MOTION AND DISCUSSION. AND -- AND WHEN WE BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD, LET'S DEAL WITH ISSUES -- LET'S DEAL WITH ISSUE A AND THEN WE WILL DEAL WITH ISSUE B. >> THE CODE ALLOWS THE ABILITY TO REBUT. I JUST WANT THAT ON THE RECORD. >> I'VE NEVER KNOWN THAT. IS THAT TRUE? >> KEEP IT VERY SHORT, PLEASE. WE'VE BEEN HERE OVER AN HOUR ON THIS SAME ISSUE, AND WE WATCHED THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR OVER TWO YEARS. >> IT WILL BE VERY SHORT. >> WITH THE RESIDENTS, I UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS. THEY HAVE A LOT OF PASSION, AND IT'S VERY UNDERSTANDABLE. LAND USE AND ZONING APPLICATIONS ARE HELD TO LEGAL STANDARDS, AND THOSE STANDARDS HAVE MET. ONE OF THE BIGGEST EVIDENTIARY EVIDENCE IS YOUR STAFF REPORT, WHICH IS CONSIDERED SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. WE'VE PROFFERED OUR EXPERTS AS WELL, INCLUDING TRAFFIC REPORTS. THERE'S BEEN A LOT SAID ABOUT TRAFFIC, BUT THE STUDY THAT WE PRODUCED IS PART OF OUR APPLICATION, MET ALL OF THOSE STANDARDS. WE'VE SPOKEN AS WELL WITH STAFF AND THAT'S ALL. I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND DISCUSSION ON ITEM A. THE APPLICATION WOULD CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF TWO PARCELS OF LAND FROM URBAN CORE 10, WHICH THEY CURRENT ARE, TO URBAN CORE 16. I JUST WANT TO COMMENT BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION SINCE THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT. >> I JUST WANT TO START BY SAYING THANK YOU TO THE COMMUNITY, REPUBLIC FOR ALL THE EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS. THIS HAS BEEN A VERY INTERESTING EXCHANGE. AND WHEN I SAY INUNDATED WITH EMAILS, I ECHO WHAT STACY HAS MENTIONED ABOUT THE PASSION OF THE COMMUNITY REGARDING THIS PROJECT. I HEAR -- I HEAR BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE. I WANT START BY SAYING, I DO APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK. THIS IS -- THIS IS CLAY COUNTY. THIS IS HOME. SO, FOR YOU GUYS TO BE VESTED IN WHAT'S GOING ON IS VERY IMPORTANT. REPUBLIC HAS BEEN A GREAT COMPANY TO BE CORRESPONDING WITH YOU. I WANT DRAW EVERYONE'S ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT AT THE FIRST PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, THEY WERE OPEN TO HAVING A PUBLIC CONVERSATION WITH THE BEAR RUN COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF -- BECAUSE OF HOW SENSITIVE THE COMMUNITY WAS ABOUT THIS PROJECT. AND SO, THERE'S VESTED INTEREST ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE, AND IT MATTERED TO ME THAT WE DID HAVE THE CONSIDERATION. I WENT TO THE FIRST COMMUNITY MEETING, UM, AND THEN I REALIZED THAT SOMETIMES PASSION GOES TOO FAR. AND IT -- IT -- IT REALLY DID DEVOLVE INTO SOME UNNECESSARY CONVERSATIONS. THE SUBSEQUENT COMMUNITY MEETING GOT EVEN MORE HOSTILE. SO, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT, UM, I -- I -- I DON'T AGREE WITH THE -- THE MANNER IN WHICH REPUBLIC WAS ADDRESSED ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS BECAUSE OF THIS PROJECT. A LOT OF THE ATTACKS ON REPUBLIC WERE PERSONAL RATHER THAN PROFESSIONAL, AND SO THAT WAS DIFFICULT TO -- TO SEE. UM, AND I FOUND THAT TO BE A LITTLE DISHEARTENING. I ALSO WANT TO STATE FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING THAT IT'S ASTONISHING THE EXTENT PROFESSIONALS WILL GO TO TO MANIPULATE AN OUTCOME. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN ACCESSIBLE ON THIS PROJECT, NOT ONLY TO REPUBLIC BUT TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT THIS. [03:25:02] AND IF ANYBODY WANTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ME ABOUT THIS, THOSE CONVERSATIONS COULD HAVE BEEN HAD WITH ME. I'VE BEEN AVAILABLE. I'VE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH REPUBLIC, MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY, I'VE RESPONDED TO MANY EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS ABOUT THIS. I DID NOT FIND THAT TO BE PROFESSIONAL, SOME OF THE WAYS IN WHICH -- WAYS IN WHICH PEOPLE ATTEMPTED TO FORCE MY HAND IN MAKING A DECISION ON THIS. TAT BEING SAID, THAT BEING SAID, UM, I WANT THE BEAR RUN COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING THAT DID NOT COME UP IN THIS MEETING BUT BRIEFLY WHEN DODI SHARED WITH THE GROUP. THIS IS ALREADY ZONED FOR MULTIFAMILY, AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT POINT HAS RESONATED WITH THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS ALREADY ZONED FOR MULTIFAMILY. AND I DON'T WANT FOR THERE TO BE ANY CONFUSION ABOUT THAT FACT. THAT BEING SAID, I DO FIND, UM, THAT WE CURRENTLY LACK THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS. THERE ARE MANY POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE WITH RESPECT TO NOT JUST -- I -- I CAN'T COMMENT SPECIFICALLY ON TRAFFIC. I'M STRICTLY PROHIBITED FROM DOING THAT, BUT INFRASTRUCTURE IS A LOT BROADER THAN TRAFFIC, AND I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS -- IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS THAT I HAD ABOUT THIS PROJECT WAS INFRASTRUCTURE. AND UNTIL THOSE ISSUES GET RESOLVED, I APPRECIATE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON THIS. HOWEVER, I DO NOT AGREE THAT THIS -- IT'S THE RIGHT TIME FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS ONE. UM, SO I -- I RESERVE, UM, -- WELL, I'VE MADE IT -- I'VE MADE IT PLAIN. THAT'S MY POSITION ON THIS. I'M HAPPY TO UNPACK SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED OVER THE LAST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS ABOUT THIS FOR ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WHO MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS. BUT YOU GUYS WERE ALSO VERY MUCH ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYBODY INVOLVED, AND I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER CELLA RESPONDING TO THE OTHER GENTLEMAN. WHEN I SAY I'VE HAD COUNTLESS EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS ON THIS, I DO APPRECIATE IT, BUT IT BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE THROUGH ALL OF THE EMAILS THAT I'VE RECEIVED ON THIS PROJECT. >> SO, IS THAT A MOTION? >> IT IS. >> WHAT IS THE MOTION? >> ON THE -- >> ITEM A. >> ITEM A. >> SO YOUR MOTION IS... >> COURTNEY, WHAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE LANGUAGE FOR THIS? >> WHAT I HEAR YOU SAY IS A MOTION TO DENY. >> CORRECT. >> SO, WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY THE APPLICATION FOR SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, CHANGING FROM URBAN CORE 10 TO URBAN CORE 16. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> I'LL SECOND. >> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> YEAH, ON THE CURRENT LAND USE, DODI, COULD YOU COMMENT ON THAT? >> CERTAINLY. SO, THE CURRENTLY FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY, THE UC10, ALLOWS UP TO 10 UNITS AS A BASE. BUT THEN THERE'S THE BONUS DNSITIES. IF YOU'RE CONSTRUCTING PROJECTS DEDICATED TO HANDICAP, CONSIDERS, OR INCOME DEPENDENT, VERY LOW, LOW OR MODERATE INCOME. HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A PROJECT 12.5, 12.8 UNITS PER ACRE, SO THAT'S OVER THE SHOULD COUNTY AT UC10, SO UC16 IS THE NEXT DESIGNATION UP, WHICH GOES UP TO 16 UNITS PER ACRE. >> BUT CURRENTLY, IT'S 10 WITH BONUS TO 15? >> TO -- YES. >> OKAY. SO, WITHOUT -- >> 16. >> -- FURTHER MODIFICATION TO THE FUTURE USE LAND MAP, A DEVELOPER COULD DEVELOP A -- >> UP TO 16 UNITS. >> -- A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT WITH 15 UNITS PER ACRE IF THEY ACCOMMODATE ELDERLY, HANDICAPPED, LOW INCOME? >> CORRECT. >> MAYBE THIS IS FOR COURTNEY, OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY, OR WHATEVER, THE LEGISLATURE [03:30:06] CURRENT MAY HAVE ALREADY PASSED ON TO THE GOVERNOR A BILL TO ACCOMMODATE -- TO FURTHER INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPERS TO DEVELOP LOW-INCOME, MULTIFAMILY HOUSING? >> AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WILL PLAY. I MEAN, HOW IT PLAYS OUT. >> I MEAN, I'M READING IN THE PAPER. THAT'S ONE OF THE BILLS THEY'RE CONSIDERING. I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR ALONG IT HAS GOTTEN. >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT PASSED BOTH THE HOUSE AND SENATE. >> CORRECT. THE GOVERNOR HASN'T SIGNED IT YET, THAT I'VE HEARD. NONETHELESS, I'M PRETTY SURE HE'S GOING TO. THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST CONFLICTED CASES I'VE EVER HAD. A DEVELOPER COULD DEVELOP 300-UNIT, MULTIFAMILY ON 22 ACRES OF LOW-INCOME, AFFORDABLE, ADULT HANDICAP LIVING FACILITY, WITHOUT COMING TO US EVER? >> CORRECT. >> THAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE. WHICH WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY SAY ABOUT. THAT'S WHY THIS IS A VERY CONFLICTED ISSUE TO ME. 270 VERSUS 300, MAYBE EVEN MORE WITH 22 ACRES. OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THAT'S -- THAT'S -- THAT'S A HARD DECISION FOR ME. I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN SEPARATE A FROM B, BUT I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS CONCERNING B. >> OKAY. YOU WANT ME TO ASK THOSE, TOO? >> NOT YET. >> WE'RE NOT DONE WITH A. >> SO, I DID WANT TO -- TO, UP, UNDERSCORE COMMISSIONER RENNINGER'S POINT IN THAT SHOULD THIS BE ALIGN ITEM THAT THE GOVERNOR APPROVES, IT NO LONGER IS A QUESTION THAT WE CAN ADDRESS. UM, THE ONLY PROBLEM THAT I HAD WITH, AND I TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL, I CAN'T SPECULATE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I CAN ONLY DEAL WITH WHAT'S IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW. AND I WOULD HATE TO ACT ON WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN. WHEREAS, IF THIS WAS BROUGHT TO ME, UM, AFTER THAT IS BEFORE THE GOVERNOR AND HE SAYS YES OR NO, THEN POTENTIALLY, MY ANSWER -- MY ANSWER CHANGES. HOWEVER, RIGHT NOW, THIS IS WHAT I HAVE. I CAN'T SPECULATE AS TO WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN. I DO -- I DID -- I MEAN, I'VE, UM, READ OVER AND OVER, AND I'VE TOILED OVER THIS AS WELL. BECAUSE THAT IS A DANGEROUS PROPOSITION SHOULD IT COME UP THAT WAY. AND SO, WHEN THE COMMUNITY COMES OUT AND SAYS WITH HEY, WE DON'T WANT THIS, WE DON'T WANT THIS, I WANTED IT TO BE VERY CLEAR, RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO DECISION AS TO WHETHER THIS IS MULTIFAMILY OR NOT. IT COULD VERY WELL BE THAT. THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. SHOULD THE -- SHOULD THIS BECOME AN ISSUE WHERE WE, THE COMMISSION, DOES NOT HAVE A SAY, IT BECOMES A WHOLE LOT MORE COMPLICATED, AND THE CONCERNS ARGUABLY -- I DON'T KNOW. AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO DELVE INTO SPECULATION. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT COULD COME, BUT I DO KNOW WHAT IS BEFORE ME RIGHT NOW. AGAIN, I FALL BACK ON WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE AT THE PRESENT MOMENT. LITERALLY, MY VERY FIRST QUESTION WHEN THIS WAS PRESENTED TO ME WERE QUESTIONS OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH TRAFFIC. AND I -- I CARE ABOUT THE PROLIF IMPLICATIONS OF A PROJECT. LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, THREE YEARS FROM NOW, TWO YEARS FROM NOW. I THINK I MET WITH -- I THINK IT WAS STEVE, RIGHT, WHERE HE SHARED WITH ME THAT THIS IS A PROJECT THEY WOULD BE GETTING OFF THE GROUND THIS SUMMER. SO, I -- I'M THINKING LONG TERM ON THIS, NOT -- NOT AS NARROW AS IT MAY -- AS IT MAY SEEM. >> COMMISSIONER BURKE. >> UM -- I -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL KNOW, BUT I'M RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THIS DISTRICT. WE HAVE SO MANY ISSUES IN MY DISTRICT BECAUSE OF THE ENORMOUS [03:35:04] GROWTH. WE WERE ACTUALLY FACED WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM WHERE I LIVE, ACTUALLY, WITH AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT THEY JUST, LIKE, RENNINGER SAID, THEY COULD GET AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WITHOUT COMING TO US, BUT THEY WANTED TO CHANGE TO A PUD, SO THAT'S WHY THEY CAME WITH US. I WAS FACED WITH, OF COURSE, THE NEIGHBORS NOT WANTING APARTMENTS. THE BAD THING IS THAT -- YOU KNOW, WE SAY WE NEED APARTMENTS, WE SAY WE DEFINITELY NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT NOBODY WANTS IT AROUND THEM. I KNOW THAT'S NOT REALLY THE ONLY PROBLEM Y'ALL ARE HAVING BECAUSE, I MEAN, I GO OVER THERE ALL THE TIME. BASICALLY, I LIKE TO GO EAT OVER THERE AND GO TO WALGREENS. I ALSO WENT TO BEAR RUN. THAT'S WHY THEY MOVED OUT OF THERE, THE ENORMOUS FLOODING YOU HAVE OVER THERE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY SHOULD HAVE BEEN REPAIRED A LONG TIME AGO. IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER -- I MEAN, WE SEE DEVELOPMENTS ALL THE TIME COME IN, AND THEY BUILD THEM UP AND SAY THEY'VE TAKEN CARE OF THE ENGINEERING AND FLOODING AND THEN THEY'RE BUILT, AND WE'RE FACED WITH ENORMOUS FLOODING WHICH, AGAIN, HAPPENED ON NIGHTBOX AND THAT IS JUST ONE AREA. I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS. I THINK YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE MORE FLOODING. YOU KNOW, Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH ENOUGH IN THAT AREA. AS FAR AS WHAT -- I WANTED TO EXPAND WHAT COMMISSION COMPERE SPOKE ABOUT, AND I ACTUALLY HAD ANOTHER -- ANOTHER ISSUE. I MEAN, I HAVE TONS OF ISSUES IN MY DISTRICT. AGAIN, USUALLY IT'S COMMISSIONER BURKE, COMMISSIONER BURKE ON THIS PAPER BUT I GOT A BREAK THIS YEAR. COMMISSIONER, COMPERE, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL JUST -- AND I'M GOING TO -- YOU KNOW, I TRY NOT TO DEAL WITH EMOTION, BUT, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NORMAL PEOPLE. WE DECIDED TO SERVE OUR COUNTY AND TO SERVE THE PEOPLE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER YOU GET UP THERE AND YOU SAY SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, REMEMBER, WE'RE THE ONES THAT VOTE YOU IN. WELL, YOU KNOW, REMEMBER, WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WE CARE. I'M NOT HERE -- I'M -- I'M -- MY KIDS ARE GROWING UP. I'M NOT HERE FOR POLITICS. I DON'T WANT TO BE A POLITICIAN, YOU KNOW, ANY MORE AFTER THIS. HOPEFULLY, I GET TO BE HERE ANOTHER TERM AND GET SOME MORE WORK DOWN. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE BECAUSE WE CARE. JUST REMEMBER THAT. I KNOW YOU HAVE TONS OF PASSION. I HAVE PASSION. WE ARE DEALING WITH MAJOR STUFF IN MY DISTRICT THAT I AM SCARED TO DEATH ABOUT. I AM PASSIONATE. REMEMBER THAT. WHENEVER YOU SPEAK TO US AND CALL US, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE FOR YOU AND WE WANT TO BE HERE FOR YOU. I ANSWER EMAILS, I ANSWER CALLS ALL THE TIME. THE EMAILS WE GOT, A LOT OF THEM SAID THE SAME THING. YOU KNOW, IF WE DIDN'T RESPOND TO YOU, I APOLOGIZE. YOU KNOW, IF YOU COULD JUST REMEMBER THAT PART; THAT WE'RE PEOPLE AND THAT WE DO CARE. BUT I, IN THE SAME RESPECT, ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, UM, I DO -- I DO REALLY THINK THIS IS NOT A GOOD PROJECT FOR THIS AREA. AND I DO WORRY ABOUT, UM, THE -- THE KIDS IN THE AREA AND THE TRAFFIC. I GO TO POOCHIES PARK. I LOVE IT. IT MAY HAPPEN LATER. Y'ALL MIGHT NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT BECAUSE IT IS AN ALREADY THAT'S ALREADY ZONED FOR THAT. THAT WOULD BE MY VOTE. >> OKAY. OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> ONE POINT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT BILL GETS APPROVED BY THE GOVERNOR. IF IT GOES THROUGH, IT COULD IMPACT, EVEN IF WE MAKE THE DECISION, TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION. THEY COULD GO TO 20 HOUSES PER UNIT, PER ACRE DEPENDING ON WHAT THE BILL SAYS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I DON'T THINK WE CAN LOOK DOWN THE ROAD AND MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHAT THAT'S GOING TO DO. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TODAY. UM, YOU KNOW, I'M ASKED A LOT, AND CERTAINLY WRITTEN UP A LOT ON FACEBOOK, AS NOT KNOWING WHAT SMART GROWTH IS. SMART GROWTH IS SIMPLE. IT'S FINDING THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR THE RIGHT PROJECT. THIS BOARD HAS DONE THAT A NUMBER OF TIMES. WE DID THAT EARLIER TODAY. WE DIDN'T THINK THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN MIDDLEBURG WAS THE RIGHT PLACE. WE VOTED DOWN A BIG, COMMERCIAL -- OR A BIG APARTMENT COMPLEX ON BLANDING NOT TOO FAR AWAY FROM THIS ONE. SO, BOTTOM LINE IS, YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED APARTMENTS IN CLAY COUNTY TO TAKE CARE OF FOLKS? [03:40:02] YEAH, WE DO. IS THIS THE RIGHT PLACE FOR IT? I DON'T THINK SO. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I ASKED, AND I MET WITH REPUBLIC, LIKE MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES DID, ONE OF THE THINGS I ASKED THEM, NEVER RECEIVED AN ANSWER ON, WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD GO TO 10-15% OF THOSE APARTMENTS LESS THAN MARKET RATE FOR OUR MILITARY, FOR FIRE AND AND RESCUE, FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT. NEVER GOT AN ANSWER ON THAT. THAT WAS AN OFFICIAL REQUEST. MADE THAT DURING A MEETING WITH THEM TO SEE IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, ATTACK THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SITUATION, THE WORKFORCE HOUSING IN THE COMMUNITY BY HAVING, YOU KNOW, NEW APARTMENT COMPLEXES GIVE US 15, 20, 25% AT A LOWER RATE. BOTTOM LINE, I DON'T KNOW IF REPUBLIC IS INTERESTED IN DOING ANY KIND OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR ANY ELDERLY HOUSING. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS MODEL. BUT DO I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, I'D BE HYPOTHETICAL IF I SAT HERE AND WENT AGAINST THE WANTS OF THE PEOPLE IN THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT WHEN I'VE VOTED MANY TIMES IN FAVOR OF THINGS THAT MY DISTRICT WAS INTERESTED IN OR VOTED AGAINST THOSE THINGS THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SEE. AND THAT'S ANY NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS WE HAD IN DISTRICT 1. I MADE THE MOTION TO SECOND TO DENY THE APPLICATION, AND THAT'S THE WAY I'LL BE VOTING. >> OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY AND A SECOND. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES 5-0. SO, BECAUSE OUR ITEM B, WHICH IS THE PUD -- REZONING OF THE PUD, AND YOUR PUD IS DESIGNED FOR UC16, OUR QUESTION FOR YOU -- OR MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS, UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO WITHDRAW THAT APPLICATION FOR THE PUD BECAUSE OF INCOMPATIBILITY WITH THE UC10 OR KEEP IT? >> NO, WE WANT TO KEEP IT. WE'D LIKE A VOTE. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ITEM B, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MY MOTION IS TO DENY THE REZONING OF THE TWO PARCELS FROM AR TO THE PUD. >> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND. OKAY. AND FURTHER DISCUSSION. YOU SAID YOU HAD QUESTIONS? >> I'M NOT SURE THE APPLICANT WANTED TO CONTINUE THE -- >> NO. THEY JUST -- THEY ARE ASKING US TO VOTE ON IT. >> UM, DO I HAVE QUESTIONS? YEAH, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER. I DO HAVE QUESTIONS. QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS. THIS IS MOSTLY FOR STAFF. OAK LANE, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS OF MODIFICATION OF OAK LANE AT THE INTERSECTION. IS THAT TRUE OR FALSE? >> RICHARD SMITH. NO, I'VE NOT HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS DIRECTLY WITH THE APPLICANT. WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE FLORIDA DOT CONCERNING THIS INTERSECTION? >> WE HAVE. I PARTICIPATED YESTERDAY WITH RICHARD AND CHARISSE AND WE SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED THIS INTERSECTION. THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE OAK LANE WIDENED AND IMPROVED. >> OKAY. BEAR RUN LAKE. >> IT'S -- WE CAN CERTAINLY -- IT'S PART OF THE STUDY AREA. WE CAN ADD THAT. THE PROXIMITY TO THE NIGHTBOX LIGHT WOULD MAKE IT DIFFICULT. WE DO HAVE A -- IF YOU'LL RECALL, VE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL STUDY THAT DOT APPROVED AT KINGFISHER ON BLANDING. WE CAN CERTAINLY ASK FOR THAT. IT'S NOT OUR DECISION. IT WILL BE DOT'S DECISION BASED ON TRAFFIC, IT WILL BE BASED ON ACCIDENTS, AND LEVEL OF SERVICE. >> SO, WE'RE LOOKING AT -- >> WE CAN GET THAT LOOKED AT. >> WE DO NOT HAVE A REQUEST ME CURRENT? >> WE DO NOT. HARRISON SIDEWALK LIGHTS. IS HEROIN -- HARRISON A COUNTY ROAD? >> YES, SIR. WE JUST PUT A PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK THERE AT. WE'LL LOOK AT THE SIDEWALKS. I'VE NEVER HAD A COMPLAINT ON THAT. I APPRECIATE THE CITIZEN FOR [03:45:01] BRINGING IT TO ME. >> THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF COMMUNITY INPUT. YOU LEARN THINGS -- IF YOU DON'T LIVE THERE, YOU LEARN THINGS YOU NEVER KNEW. EMS ACCESS -- [INDISCERNIBLE] >> TOO LATE. SECONDARY EMS ACCESS ON OAK LANE. I MEAN, IF OAK LANE IS CLOBBERED, WHAT GOOD IS A SECONDARY? >> CAN I JUST SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK? >> RICHARD, DID YOU HEAR THE MAN SAY ABOUT THE DEAD END SIGN? I GUESS THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER ONE. >> LORIN MOCK, FIRE CHIEF. IF YOU'RE ASKING THE QUESTION IF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX WAS IN PLACE, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, BASED ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS THROUGH THE FIRE CODE, WOULD REQUIRE POTENTIALLY MULTIPLE ACCESS POINTS. AND SO, IT COULD HAVE TO REQUIRE, AND IT DEPENDS ON HOW TO DESIGN COMES IN, A SECONDARY ACCESS, BUT WE'D HAVE TO SEE THE DESIGN FOR THE APPLICATION FOR THE BUILDINGS TO KNOW WHETHER IT WOULD BE REQUIRED BY THE CODE OR NOT. >> I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, THE REQUIREMENT OF THE SECONDARY ACCESS. IF THE PRIMARY WAY TO GET TO THE ACCESS IS BLOCKED, YOU CAN'T GET TO THE PRIMARY OR THE SECONDARY. >> IT DEPENDS ON IF IT'S ALLOWED TO BE ON EITHER BEAR RUN OR ON TO OAK LANE. THEY COULD BE DESIGNED EITHER WAY. AND THAT'S WHY IT, REALLY, YOU HAVE TO SEE WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING AND THE ALIGNMENT OF THE BUILDING TO KNOW BY CODE WHETHER THE SECONDARY MEANS ARE REQUIRED. >> ANYWAY, THAT'S -- THAT WAS OF CONCERN TO ME. IMPACT FEES, WE LISTED THE SCHOOL IMPACT FEES, BUT WE DIDN'T LIST THE COUNTY IMPACT FEES. EFFECTIVE, WHAT, 60 DAYS. THAT WOULD PLAY, CORRECT? JUNE 1ST. YES? NO? >> I THOUGHT MULTIFAMILY DIDN'T QUALIFY FOR IMPACT FEES. IT WAS SO WEIRD. >> SOME OF THEM BUT NOT ALL OF THEM. THEY DON'T PAY PARK, THEY DON'T PAY LIBRARY. >> THEY WOULD PAY PARK. >> SOME OF THEM DON'T APPLY TO CERTAIN -- >> IF IT'S A COMMERCIAL USE, THEN THEY DON'T PAY PARK IMPACT FEES AND OTHER IMPACT FEES. I DON'T HAVE THE LIST IN FRONT OF MY. MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE WOULD PAY ALL SIX IMPACT FEES. >> IT WASN'T LISTED HERE. YET, IT WOULD APPLY. >> YEA. >> TO THIS PUD OR ANOTHER PUD? >> I THINK THAT'S JUST A -- YOU'RE IN THAT GRAY SPACE WHERE WE'RE NOT CHARGING THEM YET, AND STAFF DIDN'T RECORD THEM. MAYBE WE NEED TO UPDATE THAT IN THE FUTURE. >> I DON'T WANT TO -- I THINK -- I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, AND WE TALKED -- I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT IT'S CLEAR: THIS IS -- THIS IS -- HAS LAND USE FOR MULTI-USE HOUSING OR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING. WITHOUT -- WITH THE GOVERNOR'S INCENTIVES, THERE'S MORE OF A LIKELIHOOD IT COULD BECOME A MULTIFAMILY/AFFORDABLE HOUSING FACILITY? >> UH-HUH. >> WITHOUT OUR INPUT, CORRECT? THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME TO US? >> WELL, THEY -- >> WELL, WITH A PUD. >> -- WOULD HAVE TO COME TO YOU FOR ZONING. THE CURRENT ZONING WOULDN'T ALLOW MULTIFAMILY. YEP, THAT PART WOULD HAVE TO COME. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? DISCUSSION? OKAY. THE REASON THAT I ASK THE QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT, IF THEY WANTED TO WITHDRAW, BECAUSE THEIR PUD IS FOR UC16 AND NOT FOR UC10. BASED ON INCOMPATIBILITY, DENIAL IS OUR OPTION. >> IS OUR ONLY OPTION. >> BUT AT ANY RATE. I HAVE A MOTION TO DENY AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. AYE. [25.  Notice of Designation - Crime Stoppers Trust Fund Grants] CRIME STOPPER TRUST FUND GRANTS. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SILENT. CRI. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SILENT. [03:50:01] ANYBODY GOING TO TALK TO US ABOUT TRUST FUNT GRANTS. >> THIS IS A CRIME STOPPERS TRUST FUND GRANT LISTED WITHIN THE BACKUP. THEY HAVE A WEBSITE. THEY HAVE A 1-800 NUMBER. THIS IS ANONYMOUS TIPS FOR ANY -- ANY REPORTS TO CRIME. OVER THE PAST TWO DECADES, THE CRIME STOPPERS HAVE ASSIGNED $1.1 MILLION, ABOUT 60% OF THOSE MONIES ARE COLLECTED, THE OTHER 40 ARE JUST GIVEN BACK ON THAT. IT COMES OUT TO BE ABOUT $5,000 A YEAR. WE'D BE INDICATING THEY WOULD BE IN RECEIPT OF THOSE MONIES FOR US TO HELP US FIGHT CRIME IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. >> THAT WOULD GO TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE? >> TO THEIR -- GO AHEAD, YEAH. PLEASE UNDERSHERIFF. HE CAN EXPLAIN THE DETAILS. >> OKAY. OH, THIS IS LIKE THE AWARDS ON TV. OH, OKAY. >> YEP. >> GOOD EVENING. UNDERSHERIFF. I'M FAMILIAR WITH CRIME STOPPERS AND HAVE WORKED WITH THEM FOR DECADES. OUTSTANDING ORGANIZE THAT DOES A LOT TO SOLVE CRIMES. THEY DO FUNDRAIING, MOSTLY IN THE BUSINES SECTOR, BUT ALSO IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND OFFER REWARDS. NOT EVERYBODY TAKES ADVANTAGE OF IT, BUT THEY HELP SOLVE A LOT OF CRIMES. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR UNDERSHERIFF? I TOTALLY APOLOGIZE. I WOULD HAVE HEARD THAT BEFORE. I MISSED THAT. I AM SO SORRY THAT I MADE YOU GUYS SIT HERE. >> THAT'S OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THE LETTERS FOR ACTION? >> GIVE STAFF DIRECTION. >> YEAH, IT'S JUST CONSENSUS FOR HOW WE'RE DOING THE LETTER. [26.  Bid Opening Tabulations (K. Smith)] >> CONSENSUS WE CAN HAVE THE COUNTY MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT SIGN? >> I'M GOOD WITH THAT. PURCHASING HAS BEEN REALLY BUSY. ANYONE HAVE ANY ISSUES ON THOSE? [PUBLIC COMMENTS] OKAY. OUR SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT, MR. OTTO. >> YES, MA'AM, JAMES OTTO, 2906 BLANDING BOULEVARD. UM, WE SHOULD BE FUNDING A $12 MILLION HOMELESS SHELTER, NOT AN ANIMAL SHELTER. WE ALREADY GOT AN ANIMAL SHELTER. PEOPLE CAN START TAKING CARE -- I KNOW THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH THAT, TOO, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT THE $129 MILLION GRANT SLASH SLLOAN. THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A 5% CAP. SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUSHED OFF UNTIL THE PRICES CAME DOWN, IN MY OPINION. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, MRS. CONDON, I SEEN THAT MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT. YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU COULD DO IT. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, SARCASTIC. WE NEED TO GET THE COMMENTS BACK. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT FOR SOME OF YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT USED TO THE PRIOR BOARD. WE START AT 2:00. I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU SHOULD BE STARTING AND GOING UNTIL 8:00, 9:00, 10:00, 11:00 AT NIGHT. THERE'S TOO MUCH GOING ON IN THIS COUNTY FOR YOU GUYS NOT TO BE HERE LONGER THAN YOU ARE. I KNOW YOU GET PAID HALF THE AMOUNT THAT MARION COUNTY DOES. MARION COUNTY, THEY DON'T TAKE UP THE PICTURE IN PICTURE. THEY WRITE THE AGENDA NUMBER ON THERE AND WHAT IT'S ABOUT SO THE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT IT IS. THEY MIGHT NOT ALWAYS BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I HONESTLY HOPE THAT YOU WILL STOP THIS AIRSTREAM ADVENTURE GOING ON OUR AQUIFERS WITH ANY KIND OF MOTORIZED VEHICLES. KEYSTONE DOESN'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR Y'ALL TO BE DRAGGING THIS PLESS -- MESS OUT THERE. THE JAIL HAS BEEN IN THE NEWS. I DIDN'T GET TO THAT MEETING. WE'RE DUMPING MONEY RIGHT HERE ON THE WATERWAY WHEN IT SHOULD BE GOING TO FAIRGROUNDS. MOST OF THIS MONEY YOU'RE DUMPING INTO THIS COURTHOUSE FOR A REHAB IS A WASTE OF MONEY. HONESTLY. AND THEN THE JTA, THE VETS, THE DISABLED AND OTHERS, I MEAN, CLAY TRANSIT WAS A MESS FOR YEARS. CLAY COUNTY HAS GOOD KARMA COMING TO THEM WITH JACKSONVILLE BUILDING A NEW FAIRGROUNDS OVER THERE. YOU KNOW, THIS IS DISGUSTING THAT YOU COULDN'T PUT THE HOMELESS PEOPLE DURING 2020 IN THE FAIRGROUNDS AND GIVING THEM THE HELP THAT THEY NEEDED; THAT YOU WOULD STICK IT IN STORAGE. [03:55:03] I MEAN, COME ON, FOLKS. I KNOW A LOT OF Y'ALL WEREN'T ON THE BOARD, SO THIS -- A LOT OF THIS IS FOR THE PRIOR BOARD. >> THANK YOU, MR. OTTO. YOUR TIME IS UP. MORE OTTO, YOUR TIME IS UP. COME BACK TO THE NEXT ONE. >> I WILL. >> ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NONE, I WILL SEE THE COMMISSION AUDITOR. [COUNTY MANAGER] NOTHING. COUNTY ATTORNEY? COUNTY MANAGER? >> MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS, THE CLAY COUNTY FAIR WILL OPEN AT 2:00 P.M. THIS THURSDAY COMING UP DESPITE THE DELUGE AND STORM THAT WE JUST EXPERIENCED HERE INSIDE THE -- OUTSIDE. THANK GOD WE ARE INSIDE. LOOKS LIKE ABSOLUTE BEAUTIFUL WEATHER OVER THE NEXT WEEK AND A HALF. I ENCOURAGE THE COMMUNITY TO DOWNLOAD SAFER WATCH. IT'S AN APP THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WILL PUT OUT INFORMATION WITH REGARDS TO ANYTHING GOING ON AND ESPECIALLY TRAFFIC. AND WE CAN STAND BY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNTY [COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS] MANAGER? OKAY. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER BURKE. >> ALL RIGHT. WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE SHERIFF AND A GROUP, UM, CALLED -- THEY ARE ALONG WITH AN ORGANIZATION CALLED OPERATION NEW HOPE OUT OF JACKSONVILLE THAT ACTUALLY HAS AN OFFICE NOW IN CLAY COUNTY. IN THE JAIL? YEAH. THEY ARE LOOKING FOR FUNDS FOR A TRANSITIONAL HOME THAT WOULD HOUSE PRISONERS THAT JUST GOT OUT. AND I THINK IT WAS, LIKE, 12 BEDS THEY WOULD HAVE. THEY ALREADY HAVE THE PLANS DRAWN UP. THEY ALREADY HAVE THE LOCATION ON MARTIN LUTHER KING -- I THINK IT'S RIGHT OFF OF MARTIN LUTHER KING. ANYWAY, THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR FUNDING IN A MEETING WITH STAFF, ALSO. THAT'S TO DISCUS GRANTS THEY CAN GET. SO, ANYWAY, I WANTED TO BRING IT UP, BECAUSE THEY'LL PROBABLY BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL. IT'S A GREAT THING, AND THE RESIDENTS ARE ALL IN ON IT, ALSO, IN THAT AREA. ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF SAM HAS ALREADY LEFT, BUT I'M SAD. I HEARD SHE'S GOING TO BE LEAVING US. SHE WILL TAKE A JOB IN ANOTHER STATE. I KNOW SHE WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND TO HELP ME WITH SOME THINGS, AND I APPRECIATE HERE, AND ALL OF US WILL MISS YOU, SAM, IF YOU CAN HEAR THIS. THAT'S IT. >> YEAH. OPERATION NEW HOPE WAS STARTED BY KEVIN GAYE IN JACKSONVILLE TO REDUCE RECIDIVISM OF PRISONERS GETTING OUT OF PRISON. IT WAS EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL. NOW, I GOT TO ADMIT KEVIN GAYE IS RETIRED, SO I'VE LOST TRACK OF THAT. THEY HAVE A GREAT PROGRAM AND THE FACT THEY WANT TO COME TO CLAY WOULD BE GOOD FOR US. I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR THE VIETNAM VETERANS DAY CEREMONY LAST SATURDAY. WE HAD GOOD SPEAKERS, GOOD PARTICIPATION, GREAT WEATHER. THE FLYOVER WASN'T THAT GOOD. [CHUCKLES] >> A LITTLE CLOUDY. BUT THE PILOTS SAID THEY'LL DO A LOT BETTER NEXT YEAR. ALSO ATTENDED THE SE SEQUINCENTENNIAL ON SUNDAY. THEY'RE A GREAT NEIGHBOR. THEY LIVE RIGHT BEHIND US HERE. THE PASTOR PERNELL, I THINK IS HIS NAME, HE HAS ATTENDED OUR MEETINGS A COUPLE OF TIMES. GREAT NEIGHBORS, GOOD CEREMONY, WELL ATTENDED. LAST THING I WANT TALK ABOUT IS A -- OUR PARTICIPATION WITH FIRE WATCH. THE '23 ANNUAL REPORT IS COMING OUT. I THINK IT'S OUT. WE HAD A MEETING LAST NIGHT, MONDAY NIGHT, YEAH, MONDAY NIGHT. I JUST WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FIRST SHEET, I DON'T HAVE TIME TO READ THE WHOLE THING. SUICIDES IN 2019, OUR BASE YEAR, 80 IN THE NORTHEAST. A FIVE-COUNTY COLLABORATE ENVIRONMENT WITH BAKER, CLAY, DUVAL, NASSAU AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY. 80 SUICIDES THAT YEAR, THE FIRST YEAR. IN 2021, NOW, THAT'S A YEAR AGO, THEY WERE DOWN TO 36. SO, 2022 SHOULD BE OUT SHORTLY, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE TIME. [04:00:08] NLP KF LO-- LOGICS DOES THE DAT COLLECTION. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TIME. SOME OF THE DATA HAS TO BE VERIFIED. ANYWAY, THE -- THE ISSUE I WANT TO POINT OUT IS -- AND WE CAN'T REALLY -- FIRE WATCH CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR REDUCING SUICIDES SOLELY. IT'S AN ALL-HANDS EFFORT. NONETHELESS, IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT SUICIDE -- VETERAN SUICIDE IS DOWN. HOWEVER, I ASKED NICK AND THE GENERAL TO SHOW ME SOME BASELINE WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC. YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THE GENERAL PUBLIC DATA SHOW? AND HOW DO WE COMPARE TO THAT? WE MAY HAVE HAD AN INCIDENT HERE IN CLAY COUNTY WHERE A YOUNG PERSON WHO ASPIRED TO BE IN THE MILITARY COMMITTED SUICIDE. SO, I ASKED HIM, WELL, MAYBE WE BROADEN OUR -- OUR LENS AND LOOK AT NOT JUST VETERANS BUT ACTIVE DUTY, LOOK AT -- LOOK AT -- LOOK AT THE UNIVERSITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS WELL. SO, WE'RE DOING THAT. THE LAST THING, WHICH DEALS WITH FIRE WATCH, IS EVERY SEPTEMBER THEY -- IT'S NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH. LAST YEAR WE HAD A SYMPOSIUM IN DOWNTOWN JACKSONVILLE. I THINK IT WAS ON THE SHIP. THEY ASKED US TO LOOK AT CLAY COUNTY TO HOST THAT EVENT THIS SEPTEMBER. I'M ASKING THE COMMISSION WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD PURSUE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN CLAY COUNTY. >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. >> THEY NEED ABOUT SPACE FOR 50-75 PEOPLE. >> COMMISSIONER COMPERE? >> YES. I WANT TO ECHO WHAT COMMISSIONER RENNINGER STATED ABOUT THE VIETNAM VETERANS CEREMONY THIS PAST SATURDAY. BIG THANK YOU TO STAFF. IT WAS -- KAREN, IS SHE STILL HERE? THANK YOU. EVERYBODY INVOLVED. ERIC IS OUR PHOTOGRAPHER. I SAW HIM OUT THERE. HEY, ERIC. EVERYBODY WHO HAS A PART IN PULLING SOMETHING LIKE THIS OFF IS -- IT REALLY COMES THROUGH AT THE END OF THE DAY, AND I ENJOYED IT. IT WAS REALLY GOOD. THE MUSIC WAS FUN, WHICH WAS AN ELEMENT THAT WASN'T TRUE LAST YEAR. SO, I LOVE THAT THEY'RE KEEPING THE PROGRAM FRESH, AND THAT WAS NEAT. I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THAT I'M EAGERLY ANTICIPATING THIS REGIONAL PARK. WE WERE AT THE -- THE GROUND BREAKING THIS MORNING, AND THAT WAS -- THAT WAS REALLY NEAT, VERY NEAT. I'M EXCITED. I MEAN, VISIONARIES ON BOTH SIDES OF ME WOULD -- WERE JUST SO READY TO SEE WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE, AND I THINK THE PROJECTION, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IS BY THE END OF THIS YEAR FOR CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS AND GUIDELINES WE MUST MEET. VERY, VERY EXCITED TO SEE OUR COUNTY MARKET THIS PRODUCT AND HAVE A BEAUTIFUL RECREATIONAL SETTING FOR OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S REALLY NEAT. AND THEN I DO HAVE A REQUEST. THE OAKLEAF HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL TEAM MADE IT TO REGIONALS THIS SEASON, AND I WOULD LOVE TO RECOGNIZE THEM, AND I DON'T KNOW THE FORMALITIES OF A REQUEST LIKE THAT. I THINK THE GIRLS' BASKETBALL TEAM ALSO, FOR THE FIRST TIME -- BOTH BOY AND GIRL BASKETBALL TEAMS ADVANCED FURTHER THAN THEY HAVE IN THE PAST, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY NEAT TO RECOGNIZE THEM. SO, THAT'S MY ASK. AND THEN, OF COURSE, IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT. I HOPE EVERYBODY HAS A GOOD EVENING AND THANKS FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> THANKS TO STAFF, AS ALWAYS, FOR YOUR NEVER-ENDED BACKUP AND INFORMATION YOU PROVIDE US. WE HAVE A SITUATION IN DISTRICT 1 WHERE WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL TO GO TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND HER STAFF TO WORK ON AN ORDINANCE, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE, WHICH WOULD PREVENT SOMEBODY FROM PARKING AN 18 WHEELER IN THE FRONT OF THEIR HOME ON THE ROAD, BLOCKING THE ACTUAL ROADWAY. SO, WE'D LIKE TO EXPLORE THAT. WE'VE WORKED WITH THE [04:05:04] UNDERSHERIFF ON WHAT WE MAY NEED TO DO TO BE ABLE TO PUT A STOP TO THAT, BUT IT'S A DANGEROUS SITUATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY PARKING A SEMI TRACTOR-TRAILER -- CAB AND TRAILER RIGHT THERE ON THE LANE FOR TRAVELING. SO, IT CERTAINLY IS GOING TO CAUSE SOME PROBLEMS. SO, IF THAT'S OKAY -- >> COURTNEY HAS SOMETHING -- >> -- DISTRICT 1. >> I CAN DISCUSS. OUR CURRENT RIGHT-OF-WAY ORDINANCE PROHIBITS THAT, IT PROHIBITS ANY KIND OF INTERFERENCE WITH PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE RIGHT OF WAY. >> IT'S THE ROAD. >> THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS EVERYTHING WE OWN. THE RIGHT-OF-WAY -- I MEAN THE WAY THE RIGHT-OF-WAY -- >> FOR FUTURE -- YEAH, FUTURE NEEDS OUT OF THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, BUT WE'LL WORK ON THAT. OTHERWISE, YEAH, IT WAS A GREAT -- A GREAT MOMENT, I THINK, FOR THE COUNTY THIS MORNING WHEN WE HAD THE GROUNDBREAKING FOR THE CLAY COUNTY REGIONAL SPORTS COMPLEX. WORDS LIKE GAME-CHANGE WERE USED AND THAT WILL DO IT. MORE IMPORTANTLY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS WE BUILD IN THE TOURIST AREA, THOSE THINGS THAT GET BUILT THAT ATTRACT TOURISTS WILL ALSO BENEFIT THE FOLKS THAT LIVE HERE IN CLAY COUNTY, THE RESIDENTS. WHAT'S BEST ABOUT IT IS, UNLESS THE LEGISLATURE GOES OUT ON A LIMB AND STARTS CHANGING THINGS ON US, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT TOURISM COST THE AVERAGE CITIZEN NOTHING UNLESS YOU'RE STAYING IN A HOTEL ON A REGULAR BASIS BECAUSE THAT'S THE WERE THE ENTIRETY THE TOURIST EFFORT FR IS FUNDED IS THROUGH BED TAX. SO, CONSEQUENTLY, THOSE PEOPLE THAT COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, SPEND MONIES AND DROP MONIES HERE AND THEN GO HOME IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, OBVIOUSLY. BECAUSE THEY DON'T PUT A REAL STRAIN ON A LOT OF FACILITIES AND A LOT OF SERVICES, INCLUDING THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. SO, SO THAT WAS GOOD. IT WAS A BIG DAY FOR US. THE COUNTY MANAGER AND GENE PRICE AND ALL THE FOLKS WORKED HARD TO GET US TO THIS POINT. IT WAS NICE TO SEE CHARLTON CONSTRUCTION OUT THERE DOING THEIR THING TODAY. >> THANK YOU. SO, TOMORROW IS THE ACTUAL 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE END OF VIETNAM WAR, AND SO IT WAS A WONDERFUL CEREMONY. CLARK GREEN AND I WERE THOROUGHLY ENTERTAINED WITH THE HECKLER THAT COMMISSIONER CELLA HAD. THANKFULLY SHE BACKED OFF WHEN HE CALLED HER OUT PERSONALLY. WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT THE MICROPHONE. COMMISSIONER CELLA WAS TRYING HIS BEST. WE HAD A SOUNDBOARD PROBLEM THAT WASN'T HIS FAULT, BUT SHE DIDN'T THINK SHE WAS TALKING LOUD ENOUGH. HE DID A YEOMAN'S JOB OF KEEPING US ALL ON TASK AND GOING THROUGH THE -- WHO WAS THERE. ONE THING THAT CAME OUT OF IT, TERESA, THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE HELPFUL, THE COMMISSIONER AND I THOUGHT SO, BUT WE'D LIKE TO KNOW FROM THE OTHER COMMISSIONS IF THEY THOUGHT SO, TOO, IF COMMUNICATIONS COULD GIVE US A SHEET -- A BLANK SHEET THAT LISTS, LIKE, ALL THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THINGS. THEN WE'RE AT AN EVENT, WE CAN CHECK OFF WHO IS THERE. YOU WILL GET IN FRONT OF THE PLISK -- MICROPHONE AND THE MIND GOES BLANK. ANYWAY, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU COULD GIVE TO US EASILY, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING EASY TO HAVE IN OUR BACK POCKET WHEN WE GO OUT AND SPEAK, IF THAT'S AGREEABLE AND CERTAINLY WE WANT TO REMEMBER ALL OF OUR VIETNAM VETERANS, ALL OF OUR VETERANS WHO HAVE SERVED THIS COUNTRY. WE'RE SO GRATEFUL FOR YOU. BUT FOR THE 1500 THAT ARE STILL NOT HOME, WE WANT TO REMEMBER THOSE AS WELL. AND THIS MORNING WAS ONE. YOU KNOW IT'S A GOOD DAY WHEN THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR MAKES A POINT -- THE FORMER LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, JENNIFER CARROLL, MAKES A POINT TO COME TO A COUNTY EVENT, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT AND EVERYONE WHO WAS OUT TODAY. AND IF THERE IS NOTHING * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.