[CALL TO ORDER]
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>>> ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED THIS AFTERNOON. IF YOU WILL JOIN US FOR INVOCATION BY COMMISSIONER RENNINGER.
>> PLEASE JOIN ME IN PRAYER. LORD, OUR HEAVENLY FATHER, IN CLAY COUNTY WE ARE BLESSED WITH OUR PAST, CHALLENGED BY THE PRESENT AND INSPIRED BY OUR FUTURE.
ALTHOUGH WE CAN OVERCOME CURRENT EVENTS IN THE WORLD, BE WITH US TONIGHT AS WE ASSEMBLE TO GOVERN WITH THE DECISIONS WHICH HAVE REAL CONSEQUENCES. HELP US UNDERSTAND THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF EVERYONE WHO HAS HAD A HAND IN DEVELOPING THIS GREAT COUNTY. ESPECIALLY THOSE PIONEERS WHO HAVE HAD TO BREAK BARRIERS IN ORDER TO HAVE THEIR STORY TOLD.
BE WITH THE PUBLIC SERVANTS WITH US TONIGHT, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR MILITARY. KEEP THEM ALL SAFE.
IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY, AMEN. >> AMEN.
>> ALL RIGHT. OUR VETERAN-LEAD PLEDGE THIS AFTERNOON IS STAFF SERGEANT CHRISTOPHER RIENDEAU.
STAFF SERGEANT RIENDEU SERVED OUR COUNTRY FOR 15 YEARS, ACTIVE IN THE U.S. ARMY FLORIDA NATIONAL GUARD AND THE NATIONAL GUARD IN MASSACHUSETTS AND RHODE ISLAND.
HE WAS DEPLOYED TO PANAMA FOR OPERATION JUST CAUSE DURING HIS SERVICE. STAFF SERGEANT RIENDEAU RECEIVED A SERVICE ARMY AND FIVE ARMY ACHIEVEMENT MEDAL, A NATIONAL DEFENSE MEDAL, AN ARM -- APP ARMY ACHIEVEMENT MEDAL AND A BADGE. HE IS A GREEN CODE SPRINGS RESIDENT AND HE VOLUNTEERS WITH OPERATION BARNABAS.
AND OPERATION BARNABAS ASKED TO RELIEVE FORT GRACE.
THANK YOU FOR LEADING US AND IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDERGOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND
JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW
WORDS FOR US? >> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND WE WILL BE OBVIOUSLY SENDING MORE VETERANS YOUR WAY. PLEASE SUPPORT OPERATION BARNABAS. WE TRY TO DO GOOD WORK TAKING
CARE OF THE VETERANS OUT THERE. >> THANK YOU.
I WILL NOW CALL TO ORDER THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S MEETING FOR FEBRUARY 14TH, 2023.
HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY TO EVERYONE.
LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL FIVE COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT.
[PET ADOPTIONS]
WE WILL MOVE INTO PET ADOPTIONS. >> OUR FIRST DOG TODAY IS MEATBALL, A NEUTERED MALE, MIXED BREED.
HE IS FIVE YEARS OLD AND WEIGHS 66 POUNDS.
HE IS ONE HANDSOME DUDE WITH AN INCREDIBLE SMILE.
ALL HE WANTS IS YOUR LOVE AND UNDIVIDED ATTENTION.
HE ADORES SPENDING TIME WITH HIS PEOPLE, LONG WALKS, THE BEST TREES AND POSING FOR INSTA PICTURES.
HE IS UP TO DATE ON VACCINES AND MICROCHIPPED.
ALTHOUGH HE IS HEART DARK -- HEART WORM POSITIVE IT IS COVERED BY ANIMAL SERVICES. NEXT IS COOPER WHO IS 10 YEARS OLD AND WEIGHS 45 POUNDS. COOPER HAS A GENTLE SOUL AND IS PATIENTLY WAITING FOR HIS TURN AT A FOREVER HOME.
HE IS DOG FRIENDLY AND KID FRIENDLY AND SKPWHR*US -- JUST AN ALL-AROUND GOOD GUY. COOPER IS WAITING FOR YOU TO COME AND MEET HIM. HE PROMISES YOU WON'T BE DISAPPOINTED. HE IS UP-TO-DATE ON HIS VACCINES, MICROCHIPPED AND HEART WORM NEGATIVE.
THE NEXT CAT IS A FEMALE SHORT HAIRED AND TWO YEARS OLD.
SHE IS A CALM GIRL THAT LIKES TO LOUNGE AROUND.
SHE LIKES TKOETED ON AND SHE ADORES HER KITTY TREATS.
THIS SMOKY COLORED GIRL CAME TO US AS A STRAY SO WE ARE STILL GETTING TO KNOW HER, BUT SO FAR WE GIVE HER TWO THUMBS UP.
PATTY CAKE IS UP TO DATE ON HER VACCINES AND MICROCHIPPED.
AND LASTLY, WE HAVE MADDIE, A SPAYED FEMALE, DOMESTIC SHORT HAIR, 9 MONTHS OLD. MADDIE IS A SHY GIRL THAT REALLY WANTS YOUR AFFECTION. SHE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO ASK.
SHE NEEDS A QUIET HOME THAT WILL ALLOW HER TO ADJUST TO LIFE.
SHE IS UP TO DATE ON VACCINES AND MICROCHIPPED.
IF YOU WANT TO JOIN OUR KITTEN CREW, WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR FOSTERS. CONTACT US AT CLAY FOSTERS AT CLAY COUNTY GOV.COM. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE
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ANIMALS MAY BE A GOOD LATE VALENTINE GIFT FOR SOMEBODY.JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE. THAT'S IT.
IF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WILL JOIN ME OUT -- UP FRONT WE HAVE
TWO PROCLAMATIONS. >> ALL RIGHT.
[1. Black History Month (February 2023)]
WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH.FEBRUARY IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH AND A CHANCE TO RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS AND ACHIEVEMENTS MADE BY AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN BOTH CLAY COUNTY AND OUR NATION, AND WE HAVE A WELL-KNOWN LOCAL HISTORIAN HERE TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION, MR. EUGENE FRANCIS. PLEASE JOIN US UP FRONT.
>> ALL RIGHT. THE PROCLAMATION READS, WHEREAS, BLACK HISTORY MONTH WAS FOUNDED BASED ON WORK DONE BY HARVARD TRAINED CARTER G WOODSON TO BRING THE ATTENTION TO THE NEED FOR ACKNOWLEDGING AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT HAVE ENRICHED AMERICA AND THE LIVES OF EVERY AMERICAN AND WHEREAS DURING FEBRUARY BLACK HISTORY MONTH WE RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS AND THE ACHIEVEMENTS OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN EVERY PART OF AMERICAN SOCIETY, AND WHEREAS SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS HAVE BEEN MADE BY CLAY COUNTY RESIDENTS INCLUDING AFRICAN MISSIONARY DR. LIEU -- LAW -- LAW WEES LOU FLEMING, AUGUSTA PHELL SAVAGE AND ANNA KINGSLEY AND CIVIL RIGHTS MAUD BURROWS JACKSON, OPERA SINGER CYNTHIA HAYMAN COLE MAN, LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR CAROL AND MULTIPLE ATHLETES.
AND NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA HERE BY JOINS THE NATION IN CELEBRATING BLACK HISTORY MONTH AND URGES ALL RESIDENTS TO LEARN ABOUT AND APPRECIATE THE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN OUR COUNTRY'S HISTORY AND IN THE SHAPING OF OUR NATION AND CULTURE.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION? >> SO MOVED.
>> PROCLAMATION PASSES. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE MICROPHONE. I KNOW YOU HAVE A LITTLE SHARE
TO US. >> I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD FOR THE HONOR OF BEING HERE TODAY AND FOR YOUR RECOGNITION OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE SOME THINGS WITH YOU.
I HAVE MY BROTHER WITH ME, KENNETH FRANCIS, FORMER PRINCIPAL OF GLENCOE SPRINGS. ONE OF THE THINGS PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IS OUR FAMILY'S HISTORY. MY FAMILY HAS BEEN HERE ON THE BANKS OF THE ST. JOHN RIVER FOR NEARLY 300 YEARS.
I AM A DESCENDANT OF DAVID AND BARBARA GRAY GRAY.
THEY WERE ENSLAVED RESIDENTS OF THE FLEMING PLANTATION CALLED HYBURNIA. DAVID AND BARBARA GRAY HAD TWO DAUGHTERS, JULIA AND EFFIE. JULIA WAS PUT UP FOR SALE IN SAINT AUGUST -- IN ST. AUGUSTINE IN THE SLAVE MARKET.
AT THE TIME THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF GEORGE KIRKAS. HE WAS BORN IN LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND. HE WAS HIRED AS A PER -- PER -- MERCHANT MARINE OR WHAT THEY WOULD CALL A BLACKJACK.
HE AND HIS SHIP MATES WERE GUN RUNNING AND RAN INTO A STOCK CADE -- STOCKADE AND SELLING SUPPLIES TO THE SOUTH TO WHOEVER ELSE THEY COULD. HE AND HIS SHIP MATES WERE CAUGHT OFF THE COAST OF NEWPORT NEWS, VIRGINIA AND HE WAS THROWN IN JAIL ALONG WITH THE REST OF THEM.
IN ORDER TO -- WELL, AS THE STORY GO, THE JAILER WANTED TO
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KNOW WHO DID GEORGE BELONG TO. GEORGE INSISTED ON TELLING THEM I AM A FREE BRITISH CITIZEN. ONCE NO ONE CLAIMED HIM, HE EVENTUALLY WAS LET OUT OF JAIL, AND HE THOUGHT THE BEST WAY TO GET BACK TO ENGLAND WAS TO MAKE HIS WAY TO FLORIDA, TO NASA -- NASSAU SO HE CAN CATCH PASSAGE TO GET BACK TO ENGLAND.HE MADE IT DOWN HERE TO FLORIDA TRAVELING AT NIGHT AND HIDING OUT DURING THE DAY. WHEN HE MADE IT TO FLORIDA OR ST. AUGUSTINE HE WITNESSED A SLAVE AUCTION.
THERE HE SAW JULIA WEEING -- BEING SOLD AND HE BOUGHT HER AND HE MADE HER HIS WIFE. MY FAMILY ORIGIN IS RIGHT THERE IN THE SLAVE MARKET IN ST. AUGUSTINE.
THAT'S US. JULIA AND GEORGE HAD SEVERAL KIDS. THE OLDEST SEWN IS LUIS SLYKIRKUS. HE IS MY GREAT-GREAT-GRANDFATHER. I MENTIONED LUIS BECAUSE HERE IN CLAY COUNTY, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU KNOW THE STORY OF THE FORESTERS. THE SO-CALLED FIRST FREE BLACK FAMILY OF COLOR SOME 20 YEARS PRIOR TO THE CIVIL WAR.
JULIA WAS THE SISTER OF EFFIE. EFFIE WAS LUIS' FORRESTES WIFE.
SO THOSE FAMILIES, THE SLYKIRKUSS, THE GRAYS, WE GO BACK TO 1770 BETWEEN THIS SIDE OF THE RIVER AND FRUIT COVE.
I GUESS YOU CAN SAY WE DON'T TRAVEL TOO FAR, BUT THIS IS HOME. IT IS SO GOOD TO SEE THAT MY COUNTY RECOGNIZES AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY BECAUSE GIVEN THE NOTION OF SOME WHO WOULD HAVE THE AUDACITY TO SAY IT IS OF NO EDUCATIONAL VALUE, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT TODAY. THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE]. >> I HAD THE JOY OF -- ON SATURDAY EVENING OF GOING TO A PRESENTATION FOR THE BLACK ANCHORS OF CLAY COUNTY AND THE AUGUSTA SAVAGE RECOGNITION AT CLAY HIGH SCHOOL. I WAS ONLY TO STAY AN HOUR AND 45 MINUTES AND THE GENTLEMEN HERE TOLD ME I MISSED THE FOLLOWING TWO HOURS. IT WAS A AGREE -- GREAT PRESENTATION, BUT I OVERBOOKED MYSELF.
[2. Childhood Cancer Awareness Week (February 26-March 4, 2023)]
THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. >>> NEXT OUR PROCLAMATION IS FOR CHILD -- CHILDHOOD CANCER AWARENESS WEEK FEBRUARY 26TH THROUGH MARCH 4TH, 2023 IS CHILDHOOD CANCER AWARENESS WEEK.
CANCER IS A DEVASTATING DIAGNOSIS FOR SO MANY FAMILIES AND THE LONG PROCESS OF TREATMENT CAN ALSO BE A TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE. THERE ARE MANY ORGANIZATIONS
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THAT HELP FAMILIES THROUGH THE BATTLE AGAINST CHILDHOOD CANCER AND THE FAMILY OF OUR OWN ASSISTANT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR MIKE GLAD IS HERE TODAY TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF TWO OF THESE AMAZING ORGANIZATIONS DEDICATED TO HELPING THEIR FAMILIES TO OVERCOME THE DEVASTATING DIAGNOSIS. JESSICA AND CASEY, WOULD YOUCOME UP AND JOIN US? >> THIS IS CASEY AND THEIR MOM, AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK. I WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY. CASEY WAS DIAGNOSED WITH ACUTE LIMO BLASS STICK LEUKEMIA AT TWO YEARS OF OLD.
SHE ENDURED TREATMENT INCLUDING BONE MARROW THERAPY, BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS, NUMEROUS SPINAL TAPS AND COUNTLESS HOSPITAL STAYS. ON MOTHER'S DAY IN 2020 THEY OFFICIALLY ENDED TREATMENT AND CONTINUES TO BE IN REMISSION.
IN 2025 AT THE FIVE-YEAR MARK SHE WILL BE CONSIDERED CURED.
CASEY HAS DODGED SIDE EFFECTS THAT PLAGUED MOST CHILDHOOD CANCER FAMILIES. SHE IS THRIVING AND SHE ENJOYS SPENDING TIME WITH HER FAMILY, SWIMMING, LEARNING AND DOING
ARTS AND CRAFTS. >> MY NEIGHBORS ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. I CAN ATTEST TO THAT.
WHEREAS CANCER IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH BY DISEASE AMONG U.S. CHILDREN BETWEEN INFANCY AND AGE 15 WITH THE TRAGIC DISEASE DETECTED IN OVER 16,000 OF OUR COUNTRY'S YOUNG PEOPLE EACH YEAR AND WHEREAS WORLDWIDE AN ESTIMATED 400,000 CHILDREN AND ADOLESCENTS ARE DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER EACH YEAR AND ONE IN FIVE OF OUR NATION'S CHILDREN LOSE THEIR BATTLE WITH CANCER WHILE MANY MORE WILL SUFFER LONG-TERM EFFECTS INCLUDING SECONDARY CANCERS. AND WHEREAS THE AMERICAN CANCER FUND FOR CHILDREN INCORPORATED AND KIDS' CANCER CONNECTION INCORPORATED ARE DEDICATED TO HELPING THESE CHILDREN AND THEIR FAMILIES. AND WHEREAS THE AMERICAN CANCER FUND FOR CHILDREN AND KIDS' CANCER CONNECTION PROVIDES A VARIETY OF VITAL OF SERVICES TO CHILDREN UNDERGOING CANCER TREATMENT AT PARTICIPATING HOSPITALS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, THERE BY ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES AND WHEREAS THESE ORGANIZATIONS SPONSOR TOY DISTRIBUTIONS, FAMILY SAILING PROGRAMS, POSITIVE APPEARANCE PROGRAMS, PET ASSISTED THERAPY, LAUGHTER-NOON, LAUGHTER IS HEALING, EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS AND HOSPITAL CELEBRATIONS IN HONOR OF A CHILD'S DETERMINATION AND BRAVERY TO FIGHT THE BATTLE AGAINST CHILDHOOD CANCER. AND NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA PROCLAIMS CHILDHOOD CANCER AWARENESS WEEK IN CLAY COUNTY AND COMMANDS THE AMERICAN CANNER IS FUND FOR CHILDREN INCORPORATED AND KIDS CANCER CONNECTION INCORPORATED FOR THE WORK THEY DO DAILY IN OUR COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT THESE YOUNG PATIENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES AS THEY OVERCOME THIS DEVASTATING DIAGNOSIS. CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA ADOPT THEY HAD 14TH DAY OF FEBRUARY OF 2023 ON VALENTINE'S DAY.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? >> SO MOVED.
>> I. >> AND OF COURSE NONE OPPOSED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING. WE ARE SO HONORED.
>> [APPLAUSE]. >> MOVING ALONG OUR
[CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS]
CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS. TARA GREEN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
FOR US? OKAY.AND NEXT WE WILL MOVE TO THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
>> EXCUSE ME. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL OF THE COMMISSIONER WORKSHOP ON JANUARY 6TH MINUTES AS WELL AS THE COMMISSIONER MEETING ON JANUARY 24TH AND THE WORKSHOP MEETING ON JANUARY 24TH AS WELL.
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DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND.
>> I DO HAVE A COMMENT. >> OKAY.
>> ONE OF -- MY RECOMMENDATION FOR THE WORKSHOP, THE TITLE OF THESE MINUTES ARE JUST WORKSHOP. I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO ADD SOME -- ADD A SUBJECT MATTER OF THE WORKSHOP TO THE
TITLE FOR SEARCH PURPOSES. >> I AGREE.
IF SOMEONE IS SEARCHING THEY COULD SEARCH FOR A TOPIC.
IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE THINK STPH-G.
>> YEAH. BUT THEN IF THEY SEARCH BY THE MINUTES THEY SEARCH BY DATE, RIGHT, FOR A REGULAR MEETING?
>> THEY REALLY AREN'T SEARCHABLE --
>> IT NEEDS TO BE SET AT THE AGENDA LEVEL.
THAT CAN BE FIXED THERE. >> IF THEY CHANGE THE AGENDA TOPIC? OKAY.
>> SO SO I GUESS THE AGENDA WOULD BE CHANGED TO THE
STRATEGIC VISION WORKSHOP. >> THE WORKSHOP IS USUALLY ONE TOPIC SO IT MAKES IT EASIER TO LABEL IT A SPECIFIC SUBJECT AS OPPOSED TO THE MINUTES WHICH HAVE 20, 30, 40 ITEMS ON THE
AGENDA. >> LET US KNOW IF THAT BECOMES
>> FOR NOW WE CAN GO WITH IT. DOES ANYONE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT? A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE
>> MOTION CARRIES 5-0. NOW AS -- NOW IS OUR FIRST
[PUBLIC COMMENTS]
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS.WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK TO US DURING PUBLIC COMMENT?
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS HELENA AND I HAVE ONE OF THE CARDS. I NOTICED THAT ROLLING HILLS IS ON THE AGENDA FOR LATER. I HAD ALREADY SPOKE TO SOME OF THE STAFF AND SO THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING SOME OF THE STUFF CONCERNING THE ROAD THAT IS GOING ON IN THE SUBDIVISION.
THERE IS A PORTION OF ROLLING HILLS BOULEVARD THAT HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED, AND SO THAT KIND OF LEADS INTO OUR SECOND ENTRANCE THAT IS ON OUR PLANS. IF SOMEBODY HAS THE MAPS IN THERE IT IS THE SEASONS AT ROLLING HILLS.
THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SECOND ENTRANCE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND IT NEVER GOT DEVELOPED. IT IS IN THE FUTURE ROAD THAT IS EXPECTED TO BE THERE. THE STAFF ENLIGHTENED ME THAT THE BOTTOM PART OF THIS SHADOW CREST, THERE IS GOING TO BE AN OUTLET THAT WILL LEAD TO THE FUTURE ROAD.
SO WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THAT. IF THERE IS ANYTHING IN YOUR FUTURE THAT Y'ALL ARE LOOKING THROUGH TO HELP US GET THAT ROAD DEVELOPED OR ENCOURAGED -- OR ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPER TO DO IT SO OUR COMMUNITY WILL HAVE THAT OTHER ENTRANCE BECAUSE WE'RE ABOUT TO BE DEVELOPING THE LAST HALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE ABOUT 750 HOMES IN THE COMMUNITY.
ONE SECTION IS 140 HOMES AND THIS SECTION WILL BE ABOUT 250 GIVE OR TAKE. AND AS Y'ALL ARE GO THROUGH -- GOING THROUGH PLANS, IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO ENSURE THAT THE POCKET PARKS GET DEVELOPED AT SOME POINT.
I KNOW THERE IS WORK GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES ON THAT SO WE CAN ENSURE THE DEVELOPERS DO THEM AND THEY DON'T JUST GET LEFT LIKE THEY HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. AND WE ARE ACTUALLY NOT READY FOR THAT ITEM SO WE ARE PULLING IT OFF THE AGENDA TO PUT ON A FUTURE ONE, BUT WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT ANYWAY.
JUST 13. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, ARE WE ABLE TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THEM WITH A SECOND ENTRANCE? NOW THAT WE DID NOT -- IT WAS NOT DONE IN THE BEGINNING TO MAKE THE DEVELOPER DO THAT OR ASK THEM TO DO IT THERE IS NO
GOING BACKWARDS. >> I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS ABOUT IT, BUT SHARICE SAID THEY DID MEET WITH HER TODAY.
SO I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS. I MEAN, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S ON THIS PLAT SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE SECOND ENTRANCE
AT ALL. >> DID YOU TALK ABOUT THE SIGNATURES? ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT?
>> IT IS A COMPLICATED ONE. APPARENTLY OUR DEVELOPER OWNS THAT PORTION OF THE LAND AND IS CHOOSING NOT TO DEVELOP IT.
THE MANAGER EXPLAINED THAT THERE IS A -- THERE IS ALMOST LIKE A THIRD ENTRANCE OR EXIT THAT WILL CONNECT TO THE FUTURE ROAD FOR
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THE CATHEDRAL ROAD IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.BUT THAT DOESN'T HELP WITH GETTING THE TRAFFIC IN AND OUT.
OBVIOUSLY THE STAN BRIDGE BOULEVARD OR THE ROLLING HILLS BOULEVARD WILL BE ONE WAY OUT, BUT THE TRAFFIC IN OUR COMMUNITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE WITH PEOPLE PARKING ON THE ROADS AND DIFFERENT STUFF LIKE THAT. SO BUSES GETTING IN AND OUT AND THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES GETTING IN AND OUT, IT IS AN ISSUE.
AND WE ARE ONLY HALF DEVELOPED. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO DEAL WITH ONCE WE HAVE BOTH OF THESE.
WE DO UNDERSTAND THESE HOUSES ARE NOT GOING UP INSTANTLY.
IT IS GOING TO TAKE THE NEXT FEW YEARS BEFORE THEY ARE FULLY DEVELOPED. AND HOPEFULLY DURING THAT TIME THE OTHER ROAD WILL BE DEVELOPED THAT WILL LEAD TO THE CATHEDRAL, BUT WE WOULD LOVE TO STILL SEE THE MIDDLE ENTRANCE THAT'S DOWN THERE WHERE IT WOULD ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC IN THE MIDDLE
OF THE SUBDIVISION. >> I SO YOU WEREN'T GIVEN A
DIRECT ANSWER? >> WE WILL SEE SOME PROGRESS OVERTIME, BUT THAT OTHER ENTRANCE IS AN ISSUE BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER STILL OWNS IT AND IT HASN'T BEEN TURNED OVER TO THE COUNTY. THE COUNTY IS NOT READY TO BUILD THAT ROLLING HILLS BOULEVARD. WE'LL KEEP WORKING ON IT THOUGH.
THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE WE WILL MOVE ON TO
[CONSENT AGENDA]
OUR CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ANYONEWOULD LIKE TO PULL. >> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM
NUMBER 8. >> AS WELL AS ITEM 13.
>> AND ITEM 12 TO SPEAK TO THE DEVELOPER.
>> OKAY. YOU WANT TO PULL IT FROM THE
CONSENT AGENDA FOR NOW? >> AND THEN DEAL WITH IT.
>> IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO PULL OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEMS 12 -- 8, 12 AND 13.
>> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.
>> I. >> OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. ITEM NUMBER 8, COMMISSIONER?
[8. Bid No. 22/23-27, Generator for Public Works (K. Smith)]
>> MY ISSUE WITH THIS IS BACK UP.
WE SAW POLICY WISE THAT THE COUNTY MANAGER CAN APPROVE ANYTHING ABOVE 25,000 AND ANYTHING BEYOND THAT IT COMES TO THE COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL. WE ARE THE LAST QA CHECK, QUALITY ASSURANCE CHECK, OF THE ITEM.
WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE BACK UP, IT SAYS WE HAVE ONE GENERATOR PROPOSAL FOR 65,000 AND ANOTHER GENERATOR PROPOSAL FOR 45,000.
IT IS A BIG DISPARITY. IT WAS A GENERATOR.
THAT'S NOT THE SPECIFICITY I NEED.
THEY LISTED IT AS A GILLETTE GENERATOR MADE BY JOHN DEERE OR A CATERPILLAR GENERATOR WHICH IS YELLOW.
WITHOUT SPECIFICITY, I WAS KIND OF THINKING WELL, I CAN PICK THE GREEN ONE OR THE YELLOW ONE. THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.
I WOULD LIKE TOEE MORE SPECIFICITY.
I CONSULTED WITH PURCHASING AND I RESOLVED EVERYTHING.
I AM FULLY IN AGREEMENT WITH THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT THAT THEY -- WITH THE $45,000 GENERATOR. THEY CAN COME SINGLE-PHASED, DOUBLE-PHASED. KBA'S AND ALL OF THAT.
THERE IS A LOT OF ENGINEERING AND BACKGROUND THAT GOES IN -- NOT ALL GENERATORS ARE CREATED EQUAL.
IN THIS CASE I THINK FOR ME RELEGATED TO PICK THE RED OR GREEN ONE, I WOULD NEED MORE INFORMATION.
I JUST ASK THAT WE PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE TECHNICAL INFORMATION FOR SOME OF THESE TECHNICAL THINGS WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION. WITH THAT I WILL MOVE APPROVAL.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNTY MANAGER HAS NOTED YOUR REQUEST AND FEELS LIKE IT IS
REASONABLE HOPEFULLY. >> YES, MA'AM.
I DID SPEAK TO THE COMMISSIONER ABOUT IT ALSO.
YES, MA'AM. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY
[12. Acceptance for Final Plat for Recording Shadow Crest at Rolling Hills (District 5, Comm. Burke)(R.Smith)]
>> THOSE OPPOSED? IT CARRIES 5-0.
ITEM 12, COMMISSIONER BURKE. >> I WOULD JUST LIKE SOME
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CLARIFICATION AS TO WHAT IS EXPECTED HERE.I'M HEARING TOO MUCH ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS HAPPENING AND THE DEVELOPERS ARE NOT HELD TO THE STANDARD.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE -- WHAT ARE THEY REQUIRED TO DO AND WHAT HAS BEEN AGREED UPON? CAN Y'ALL TELL ME THAT OR IS
THAT -- >> I MEAN, I CAN'T TELL YOU -- WITH RESPECT TO ROLLING HILLS, I MEAN, WE CAN RESEARCH IT.
THIS IS ANOTHER PHASE BROUGHT UP.
I DON'T KNOW IF RICHARD KNOWS ANYTHING.
>> IT IS 247 MORE HOMES WITHOUT A ROAD, WITHOUT A CUT THROUGH
RAD, SO ... >> IT IS PROBABLY FOR PLANNING.
I DON'T KNOW IF RICHARD KNOWS ANYTHING, BUT IT IS PROBABLY FOR
PLANNING. >> RICHARD SMITH, CLAY COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THE ROAD IN QUESTION IS THE FRONTAGE ROAD THAT WILL BE BUILT BETWEEN ROLLING HILLS' NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE EXPRESSWAY. THERE IS ABOUT A 120-FOOT STRIP OF LAND THERE THAT IS STILL OWNED BY THE ROLLING HILLS LLC WHICH WILL BE TURNED OVER TO THE HOA WHEN THEY GET ENOUGH PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE. IT IS ALSO ANOTHER SMALL STRIP OWNED BY HOLSTEIN. THAT IS ONE OF OUR APF ROADS, ADEQUATE PUBLIC FACILITIES. SIMILAR TO A FEED MILL AND SIMILAR TO BEING A PARKWAY AND OTHER WAYS.
THAT ROAD IS -- THAT ROAD IS NOT A MOBILITY FEE ROAD.
IT WILL RUN PARALLEL FROM SAND RIDGE DOWN TO THE NEW COULD YOUD THAT -- THE NUKA THAOED RAL OAK -- CATHEDRAL OAK PARKWAY.
THAT WILL BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN THREE TO FOUR WEEKS.
THIS PARTICULAR PLAT IS AT THE VERY SOUTH END OF ROLLING HILLS.
THE FRONTAGE ROAD THAT THE CITIZEN WAS ASKING ABOUT IS THE EXISTING ENTRANCE ON THE SAND RIDGE TO ROLLING HILLS.
BASICALLY IT IS ANOTHER PARALLEL ROAD.
YOU WOULD STILL HAVE 500, 600 LOTS GOING INTO ONE ENTRANCE ON SAND RIDGE. THE ANSWER IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS IN EARLY 25 WILL BE THE SOUTHERN EXIT.
THERE WILL BE A ROAD FROM CATHEDRAL OAK PARKWAY THAT LEADS UP TO THE ROLLING HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD AND PARTICULARLY THIS SECTION OF SHADOW CREST. THAT'S THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUE.
AS FAR AS WHAT THE DEVELOPER WAS REQUIRED TO BUILD, AT THIS POINT, THEY MAY BE LOOKING TO THE COUNTY TO BUILD IT AND IT DOES NOT REALLY RISE UP TO THE LEVEL OF THE IMPORTANCE OF SAY A
FEED MILL AS A TRAFFIC RELIEVER. >> THAT'S THE SAME AS ANOTHER ENTRANCE? I KNOW ABOUT THIS APF THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, BUT THAT CORRELATES ALSO WITH THE SECOND
THAT'S WHAT SHE IS REFER TOGETHER SECOND ENTRANCE.
THERE'S TWO ENTRANCES OFF OF A ROAD THAT LEAD TO SAND RIDGE.
IT WOULD BE LIKE PUTTING TWO ENTRANCES ON 209B.
>> RIGHT. >> THEY BOTH LEAD TO 209.
>> BUT WE MAY NOT -- THEY MAY NOT HAVE A SECOND ENTRANCE.
EVEN AFTER EVERYTHING IS BUILT, THEY MAY ONLY STILL HAVE THIS ONE ENTRANCE BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER IS NOT REQUIRED TO
BUILD THE SECOND ENTRANCE? >> THAT SECOND ENTRANCE --
>> I DON'T THINK WE KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
>> YEAH. THAT SECOND ENTRANCE LEADS TO A ROAD THAT, AGAIN, IT IS PART OF OUR ADEQUATE PUBLIC FACILITIES, BUT WE ARE NOT -- WE DON'T HAVE THAT BUDGETED OR PRIORITIZED IN THE COUNTY. IT IS FOR COUNTY FUNDS TO BUILD.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEVELOPER WAS REQUIRED TO BUILD 15, 18 YEARS AGO WHEN ROLLING HILLS BEGAN.
IT WAS A PRE-2008 DEVELOPMENT. >> HOW IS IT OKAY TO HAVE THE DEVELOPMENTS WITH ONE ENTRANCE? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS.
THERE IS ONE -- I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE ROAD AND THAT IS A HUGE DEVELOPMENT. AND THERE IS ONE ENTRANCE.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE PARKING IN THE ROADS.
HOW ARE WE ABLE -- HOW ARE EMERGENCY VEHICLES ABLE TO GET THROUGH? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
>> IT CERTAINLY IS NOT -- FOX MEADOWS IS AN EXAMPLE.
FOX MEADOWS ■IS600 PLUSLOTS%-ÚW. MOVING FORWARD, DISCUSSION
[13. Acceptance of Rolling Hills Phase 1A Subdivision (District 5, Comm. Burke)(R. Smith)]
[21. Progress Report on the Bonded Transportation Program (E. Dendor)]
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UPDATES, BONDED TRANSPORTATION. MR. DENDOR.[00:41:00]
>> GOOD EVENING, BOARD. HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY.
>> SAME TO YOU. >> ED DENDOR BONDED TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR.
HERE WITH ME IS CARLOS CAMPOS WITH WGI.
WE ARE HERE TO UPDATE OUT PROGRESS THE TEAM HAS MADE IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS. THE DESIGN TEAMS CONTINUE WITH THEIR DESIGN AND PERMITTING PROCESS WITH INPUT FROM THE CON -- CONTRACTORS ON SIX OF THE SEVEN PROJECTS.
ONE OF THE SEVEN PROJECTS, PROJECT FOUR, IS NOW UNDER ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION. I'LL GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS ON PROJECT 4 LATER. PROJECT NUMBER ONE, COUNTY ROAD 218, THEIR DESIGNER, THE DESIGN BUILD TEAM ON THEIR 90% DESIGN COMMENTS AND RESOLUTION ALONG WITH THE REVISED CPM SCHEDULE.
THEY SUBMITTED A NOTICE OF INTENT ON FEBRUARY 6TH AND THE MERITS ARE BEING EVALUATED BY THE COUNTY.
NUMBER 2, OVERALL THEY CONTINUE WITH THE DESIGN AND HELD THEIR BI-MONTHLY STATUS MEETINGS. APACE -- APPRAISALS CONTINUE FOR RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITIONS. PERMITS UNDER REVIEW FOR PROJECT NUMBER 2 AND 5. PROJECT NUMBER 2 AND PROJECT 6A CONTINUE WITH DEVELOPING THE 90% PLANS.
THE CULTURAL RESOURCE ASSESSMENT SUR RAY REPORTS -- SURVEY REPORTS WERE DEDICATED TO THE PRESERVATION OFFICE FOR REVIEW ON PROJECT NUMBER 2. AND PROJECT NUMBER 5 WHICH IS CANNON ROAD 220, THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE WAS GIVEN BY SPEAR YES, SIR -- SUPERIOR AND UNDER EVALUATION.
THE TEAM CONTINUES WITH THE CRASH REPORT ON PROJECT NUMBER 5. PROJECT NUMBER 3, WHICH IS COUNTY 209, THEY SUBMITTED PLANS ON DECEMBER 27TH.
THESE PLANS INCORPORATED THE REALIGN -- REALIGNMENT OF 739B AND 209B. THEY PROVIDED COMMENTS ON THE 90% PLANS AND THE DESIGNERS WORKING TOWARD FINAL PLANS.
THEY SUBMITTED THEIR GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE AND THE TEAM IS CURRENTLY VALIDATING THAT PRICE AND THE CURRENT BUDGET FOR THIS PORTION OF CONSTRUCTION IS INSUFFICIENT AT THIS TIME.
THE TEAM IS LOOKING AT PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED OPTIONS TO REMEDY THE SCOPE TO INCLUDE OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS, SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AT WATKINS ROAD, OAK STREAM ROAD AND THE NEW ROUNDABOUT. THE TEAM IS WORKING WITH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT BUDGET AND THE COUNTY GRANTS DIVISION FOR IS UP -- SUPPLEMENTAL AND ALTERNATIVE SOURCES.
FOR PROJECT 4 KNOWN AS SAND RIDGE ROAD, CREEK VIEW AND ROBINSON PERMIT MODIFICATION WAS FINALIZED.
THE DISTRICT ISSUED THE PERMITS ON FEBRUARY 3RD.
THE SITE WAS MOBILIZED WITH FIELD OFFICES, EQUIPMENT AND PERSONNEL. CONSTRUCTION STARTED AT THE WEST END OF IS -- NEAR SAND RIDGE ROAD WITH A HEAVY EMPHASIS ON THE COMPLETION OF THEIR WORK BY THE END OF THE SUMMER WHILE THE SCHOOLS ARE CLOSED FOR THE SUMMER SESSION.
HEAVY COORDINATION HAS AND WILL CONTINUE WITH THE CLAY COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD PERSONNEL. MOVING ON TO PROJECT 6B ALSO KNOWN AS -- THE TEAM CONTINUED TO HOLD THE BI-MONTHLY STATUS MEETINGS. 100% BRIDGE PLANS WERE REVIEWED AND PROVIDED TO THE DESIGNER. FINAL ROADWAY, LIGHTING, SIGNAL AND DRAINAGE PLANS WERE SUBMITTED AND REVIEWED.
THE TEAM CONTINUES TO WORK TOWARD OBTAINING WET LAND MITIGATION LETTERS FROM MULTIPLE BANKS.
WE RECEIVED RESERVATION LETTERS AND A PARTIAL RELEAS FROM AN ADDITIONAL BANK. ONE OF THE MITIGATION BANKS WAS
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UNABLE TO MEET THEIR ACCREDITATION IN A TIMELY MANNER. THE DEPOSIT BODY -- PAID TO SUNNY SIDE WILL BE REFUNDED TO THE COUNTY.WE SHIFTED GEARS AND OUR TEAM HAS SECURED RESERVATIONS OF CREDITS FROM NEW MITIGATION BANKS, THE HIGHLAND RANCH.
WITH THE EXECUTION OF THE AGREEMENT ON CONSENT AGENDA NUMBER 20, WE ARE EXPECTING TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENTS AND RECEIVE OUR MITIGATION CREDITS OVER THE NEXT MONTH -- NEXT FEW WEEKS, ACTUALLY. ONCE THEY ARE RECEIVED, THEY SHOULD BE ISSUED AND ANTICIPATE START OF CONSTRUCTION NO LATER THAN EARLY APRIL. LASTLY WITH A QUICK NOTE ABOUT THE DASHBOARD, IF YOU WOULD FROM THE BOND TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM IT WAS AN AVERAGE OF 20 HITS PER DAY PER PROJECT.
JUST LIKE TO SAY THE DASHBOARD SEEMED TO BE DOING ITS JOB WITH A GOOD PLACE OF INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC TO GET THE LATEST INFORMATION ON EACH PROJECT. THAT CONCLUDES MY UPDATE.
DO YOU HAVE IF I QUESTIONS? >> ANY QUESTIONS?
>> I HAVE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
THIS WAS CONCEIVED WITH A $129 MILLION BOND TO FUND IT AND NOW WE ARE $164 MILLION, $165 MILLION?
>> CORRECT. >> WE ARE EXPERIENCING SEVERE INFLATION IN THIS PROJECT THAT WE HAVE NOT TURNED A SHOVEL YET FOR THE ROADS. IT IS OF CONCERN TO ME.
>> YES, SIR. THE 129 IS WHAT WE BONDED, THE FIVE-YEAR PROGRAM THAT HIGHLIGHTS MARCH 26 OF 2025.
AND AS EVERYONE HAS SEEN WITH THE EXPANDED INFLATION, EVERY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT -- NOT ONLY THAT, BUT REAL ESTATE, THE GROWTH OF THE COUNTY IS A BLESSING AND A CURSE, IF YOU WOULD. THAT REAL ESTATE DOES COST MORE.
THE SUPPLEMENTAL CURRENTLY AT 164, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 129 AND 164 IS BEING -- IS WORKING WITH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT BUDGET, THE COUNTY'S OMB. WE LOOK AT IMPACT FEES AS WELL AS MOBILITY FEES AND THAT'S HOW WE ARE ABLE TO SUPPLEMENT THE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS AT THE 164 MILLION.
>> IT'S A CHALLENGE. >> IT IS A DEFINITE CHALLENGE.
THE CHALLENGE IS A BLESSING AND A CURSE.
I AM GLAD TO SEE CLAY COUNTY GROWING AS IT IS.
IF YOU LOOK WHAT FDOT WENT THROUGH WITH THE BRIDGE PROCESS RECEIVING BIDS 50% HIGHER THAN THEY ARE EXPERIENCING.
WE ARE ABLE TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS I THINK WITHIN THE COUNTY'S CONFER WRENS ON THE DIFFERENT ROAD PROJECTS AS THEY ARE
[22. Discussion of Legislative Priorities and approval of palm card and website content. (C. Latham/L. Christmas)]
>> ITEM NUMBER 22 ARE DISCUSSION OF LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AND APROVAL OF PALM CARD AND WEBSITE CONTENT.
>> GOOD EVENING. I AM LAURA CHRISTMAS.
IN YOUR BACK UP YOU HAVE THE FIRST DRAFT, IF YOU WILL OF OUR 2023 PRAY KWRORTS AND THE WEB PAGE WE MADE FOR IT.
THE FIRST WEB PAGE WILL LIVE ON OUR WEBSITE, CLAY COUNTY GOV.COM AND IT IS UNDER THE BCC PORTION OF THE WEBSITE.
THE PALM CARD HAS A QR CODE ON IT WHICH IF YOU SCAN IT WITH YOUR SMARTPHONE IT WILL TAKE TO YOU THE WEBSITE THAT HAD A BREAK DOWN OF ALL OF OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AND APPROPRIATIONS WHICH OF COURSE OUR STAFF HAS DEVELOPED.
IT IS TRACKABLE SO ANY TIME SOMEBODY SCAN ITSELF WE CAN SEE HOW MANY SCANS IT HAS AND INFORMATION LIKE THAT SO YOU CAN KEEP TRACK OF THE DATA. YOU WILL SEE THE 4 BY 6 AND IT IT HAS THE APPROPRIATIONS IN PAPA WREN THAT YOU SEES AND THERE ARE OTHER PRIORITIES WE DEEMED IMPORTANT WITHOUT THOSE APPROPRIATIONS ATTACHED. THE THIRD PAGE OF YOUR BACK UP IS AN APPLICABLE LINK SO YOU CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
>> AND HOPEFULLY ALL OF YOU FOUND IT, I LEFT THE TPO PALM
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CARD AND THERE ARE A FEW EXTRAS FLOATING AROUND AND WE HAVE THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA REGIONAL LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES IF ANYBODY MISSED THAT FROM BEFORE. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES?>> ARE WE CHOOSING ONE OF THESE? >> YES.
>> MADAM CHAIR, IF I COULD, I THINK IN IS THE -- THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR WE HAVE GONE TO A PALM CARD APPROACH RATHER THAN EIGHT AND A HALF BY 11 SHEET OF PAPER AS WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST. IT IS TAKING ANOTHER STEP FORWARD AND I AM HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE PUT THE -- THOSE PROJECTS INTERESTED IN MAKING PRIORITIES WITHOUT GETTING THE DETAILED INFORMATION. I WAS THERE A COUPLE TIMES SO YOU CAN PROBABLY SEE ME SCANNED IN THERE A COUPLE TIMES.
I THINK STAFF IS WHO WILL BE ASSIGNED TO LOOK UP THE ADDITIONAL DETAILS RATHER THAN OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS.
THEY HAVE ENOUGH ON THEIR HANDS. WHEN THE FIRST ITERATION OF THIS PIECE CAME OUT, THEY DID HAVE THE PICTURE OF THE DOCK.
NOT THAT I HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST GREEN CO PARK, THAT'S PART OF THE CITY AND NOT RESPONSIBLE AS FAR AS THE COUNTY IS, SO I ASKED IF WE COULD GET A COUPLE OTHER PHOTOS AND THAT'S WHAT PROMPTED THE SECOND AND THIRD PAGE. I SHOW A PREFERENCE FOR THE TREE HOUSE. SEEMS LIKE THE COLOR MATCHES WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO THERE AND THAT'S THE WAY I WOULD LIKE US TO GO. WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A LITTLE REARRANGING BECAUSE AS WE MOVE THE PICTURE DOWN IT PUSHED THE
TYPE DOWN INTO THE QR CODE. >> ANYBODY WHO HAS WORKED WITH ANY OF THESE PROGRAMS, WE MOVE ONE THING AND EVERYTHING MOVES AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND RESET EVERYTHING.
THAT'S SORT OF WHERE IT IS. THAT WOULD BE MY THOUGHTS.
>> OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
>> IT IS MY FAVORITE, ALSO. >> COMMISSIONER WREN --
ANYTHING? >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE PRIORITY PALM CORD UTILIZING THE TREE HOUSES AS THE ARTWORK AND MAKING THAT ONE SMALL CHANGE, BUT KEEPING EVERYTHING ELSE IN TACT AS IT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING I.
>> THANK YOU, LAURA. >> ALL RIGHT.
[23. Non-profit Funding (G. Gunn)]
ITEM 23, NON-PROFIT FUNDING. MS. GUNN.>> GABRIELLE GUNN, COMMUNITY AND SOCIAL SERVICES.
YOU ALL HAVE RECEIVED YOUR BACK UP DOCUMENTATION FOR THIS LINE ITEM. WE RECENTLY DID AN APPLICATION PROCESS FOR THE ARPA NON-PROFIT FUNDING.
WE HAD $35,000 THRESHOLD FOR SERVICES AND SMALL PROJECTS AND A SECOND THRESHOLD OF $200,000 FOR CAPITAL INVESTMENTS THAT INCLUDED LAND, BUILDINGS, INFRASTRUCTURE AND OTHER ITEMS. THESE ALLOWABLE EXPENDITURES INCLUDED PERSONNEL, RENT, MORTGAGE, UTILITIES, SUPPLIES, EQUIPMENT AND CAPITAL.
IN THIS INITIAL APPLICATION REQUIREMENT, THE NONPROFIT OFFICE OR HEADQUARTERS MUST HAVE BEEN LOCATED IN CLAY COUNTY.
THE NONPROFIT MUST PROVIDE SERVICES -- SUPPORT SERVICES TO CLAY COUNTY RESIDENTS AND MUST BE A REGISTERED 501C3 AND MUST BE ESTABLISHED FOR A MINIMUM OF ONE YEAR AND THEY HAD TO HAVE HAD A MINIMUM OF THREE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND SUBMIT A COMPLETE APPLICATION. THE SCORING MATRIX THAT WAS USED IS 20 POINTS FOR INITIAL REQUIREMENTS.
15 POINTS FOR ORGANIZATIONAL CAPACITY, 25 POINTS FOR SCOPE OF
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THE PROJECT, 15 FOR JUSTIFICATION, 10 POINTS FOR SUSTAINABILITY AND 15 POINTS FOR OPERATIONAL BUDGET VERSUS PROJECT BUDGET OF NO MORE THAN 25%.WE RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 7 APPLICATIONS IN OVER 2 MILLION.
SEVERAL DID NOT QUALIFY FOR SCORING AS IT WAS NOT RECEIVED.
TWO MORE APPLICATIONS WERE NOT INCLUDED IN RECOMMENDATIONS PER THE ORGANIZATION'S REQUEST FOR NOT BEING LOCATED IN CLAY COUNTY. OUT OF THE 20 APPLICATIONS THAT WERE SCORED, ALL OF THEM SCORED OVER 70% FROM A TEAM OF FIVE THAT SCORED THESE APPLICATIONS. EIGHT NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS WERE IN THE $35,000 CATEGORY REQUESTING A TOTAL OF $270,000.
11 NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS WERE IN THE 200,000 CATEGORY AND IN TOTAL REQUESTED OVER 1.2 MILLION.
COMBINED OUT OF THE 19 ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE UP FOR RECOMMENDATION IS $1.5 MILLION OF THE 800,000 THAT HAS BEEN ALLOTTED FOR THIS NONPROFIT FUNDING.
IN THE $35,000 CATEGORY, WE HAVE THE FOLLOWING ORGANIZATIONS, CHILDREN'S HOME SOCIETY, CLAMMER THEATER, CLAY COUNTY EDUCATION FOUNDATION, MISSION OF THE DIRT ROAD, QUIGLY HOUSE, SEEDS OF LOVE, THE SHEPHERD CENTER AND THE VILLAGE IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION. ON THIS YOU WILL SEE THE REQUESTED AMOUNT, THE OPERATING BUDGET, THE 25% OF THE PROJECT AND THE FOLLOWING COLUMNS OF 10, 15 AND 20%.
NEXT YOU WILL SEE THE ORGANIZATIONS IN THE $200,000 CATEGORY. ACT KNOWN AS ANOINTED COMMUNITIES AND TRANSFORMATION, BASCA, MERCY SUPPORT SERVICES, MONTGOMERY PRESBYTERIAN CENTER, SALVATION ARMY, C MARK RANCH, WASTE NOT, WANT NOT AND THE WAY FREE MEDICAL CLINIC.
BASED OFF THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WE ARE PROPOSING THE FUNDING OF ALL PROJECTS AT 10% FOR A TOTAL OF $755,000 -- $755,261. FOR A TOTAL OF $840,291.
IF WE WERE TO FUND ALL DIRECT SERVICES OR SMALL PROJECTS AT 15% AND ALL CAPITAL PROJECTS AT 10%, THAT IS A TOTAL OF 764,737.
WE MUST KEEP IN MIND THAT ALL PROJECTS MUST BE COMPLETED BY 2024 TO STAY IN LINE WITH ARPA GUIDELINES.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT AWARDS IN THE 35,000 CATEGORY BE COST REIMBURSE -- REIMBURSABLE AND AWARDS IN THE 200,000 CATEGORY ARE REIMBURSABLE WITH A 20% ADVANCE OF FUNDS TO BEGIN THE PROJECT. WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS GUIDANCE FROM YOU ALL TONIGHT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONTRACTS ON THE 28TH OF THIS MONTH. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE ORGANIZATIONS LISTED?
>> ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? >> VERIFICATION 501C3,
[INAUDIBLE]. >> OUR DETERMINATION LETTER IS WHAT WAS REQUESTED. SKWRAOEUL THEY HAVE TO FILE A 990 FORM EVERY YEAR. HOW DO WE FARE -- VERIFY -- YOU
SAID IRS DETERMINATION LETTERS? >> YES.
>> THE OTHER THING WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO LOOK AT IS 990S JUST
SO SEE THE INFORMATION. >> THANK YOU.
OTHER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AT THIS POINT?
>> SO YOU DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE ONE GROUP, THE TR1 GROUP GOING WITH 15% ON THE SECOND GROUP. WHAT DO WE SET ASIDE?
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>> 800,000. >> I KNEW IT WAS EIGHT, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS 800 EVEN. IN SOME CASES YOU HAVE THESE REQUESTS THAT WERE YELLOWED OUT BECAUSE THEY EITHER DIDN'T QUALIFY OR THERE WAS THOUGHT THAT MAYBE WE COULD HELP THEM IN ANOTHER WAY. THE ORGANIZATION ASKED FOR EQUIPMENT, SPECIFICALLY A VAN, MAYBE WE CAN WORK WITH THEM IN SOME OTHER FASHION RATHER THAN GIVE THEM THE MONEY THEY -- TO GET THE SPECIFIC VAN THEY ARE LOOKING FOR.
>> YES, SIR. >> MADAM CHAIR, THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE WERE LOOKING FOR A WAY TO SORT OF MEASURE AND MAKE A DETERMINATION AND VET THESE NONPROFITS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW. THIS IS FOR, YOU KNOW, ARPA MONIES AS OPPOSED TO GENERAL FUND BUDGET MONIES WHICH WE ALSO DO. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD TEMPLATE IN TERMS OF MOVING FORWARD IN HOW WE VET NONPROFITS AND THE WAY WE CAN HELP THEM IN TERMS OF DOLLAR AMOUNTS.
IT IS NOT EASY. A LOT OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS DO A GREAT JOB. IN MY MIND IT IS EITHER MOVING FORWARD WITH GIVING, YOU KNOW, SOME ORGANIZATION SOME OF THESE BIGGER -- YOU KNOW, THE FULL AMOUNT THEY WANT AND WIDDLE THE OTHER ONES DOWN OR TRY TO WIDDLE EVERYBODY DOWN.
MY BIGGEST FEAR IS THAT IF THEY HAD A CERTAIN PROJECT IN MIND, THESE #R* ARPA PROJECTS AND THEY HAVE TO BE DONE A CERTAIN TIME.
IF THEY START WIDDLING DOWN, THEY CAN'T COMPLETE THE PROJECT THEY SET OUT TO DO AND IT MAY HANDICAP THEM FROM REACHING THE GOAL BY THE TIME WE NEED THEM TO GO.
EVERYBODY IS WELL AWARE THAT IF THEY ACCEPT ONE OF THESE GRANTS, THAT THEY HAVE TO BE COMPLETED BY THE DEADLINE DATE, RIGHT, AND WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS WOULD BE IF THEY DON'T?
>> BY THE END OF 2024. CORRECT.
>> I SEE THAT AS THE BIGGEST HURDLE FOR THESE ORGANIZATIONS.
THEY ASKED FOR 33,000 AND WE RECOMMEND 23,000, ARE THEY ABLE TO PULL OFF WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING TO DO? CAN THEY MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT AND CAN THEY GET THAT DONE IN TIME TO SATISFY ARPA? THOSE ARE THOUGHTS I HAD.
>> GREAT. AND WITH THE GUIDANCE WE WILL TAKE THAT BACK TO THE ORGANIZATIONS UP FOR RECOMMENDATION AND SEE IF THE PROPOSED -- WHAT IS BRA POSED TONIGHT WILL BE ABLE TO HAPPEN SO WHEN THE 28TH COMES WE HAVE CLEAR PARAMETERS MOVING FORWARD.
>> AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR RECONSIDERATION, FOR ONE ON THE -- OF OUR BACK UP MATERIAL ON THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE ELIMINATED FROM CONSIDERATION. ONE OF THOSE IS LAKE AREA MINISTRIES. THEY HAVE BEEN A RECIPIENT OF GRANT MONEY IN THE PAST. THEY SERVE 600 FAMILIES A MONTH IN THE KEYSTONE HEIGHTS AREA WITH A FOOD BANK.
THEY PROVIDED THEIR NONPROFIT DETERMINATION LETTER BEFORE AND THERE IS DISCREPANCY BETWEEN WHAT THEIR STORY IS AND WHAT OUR STORY IS AND I DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE MIDDLE OF WHO SAID/SHE SAID, BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE A RECONSIDERATION OF LAKE AREA MINISTRIES INTO THE FINAL AWARD DETERMINATION.
>> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING.
JUST TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR ON THE 10%, 15%, THAT IS BASED ON THEIR OPERATING BUDGET. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF A NONPROFIT HAS A $2 MILLION OPERATING BUDGET AND ASKED US FOR $200,000, THEY ARE UP 10% BECAUSE THAT IS 10% OF OPERATING. THEY WOULD STILL GET THE FULL
AMOUNT THEY ASKED FOR. >> AND I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE CLEAR FOR THE RECORD.
THAT WOULD BE A CAP ON THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY GET BASED
ON CURRENT OPERATING EXPENSES. >> IS THAT WHY SOME OF THEM ARE
THE SAME ALL THE WAY ACROSS? >> IF YOU HAVE A FIRM -- IF YOU HAVE AN ORGANIZATION THAT CAN SUPPORT THE FULL 200,000 AND IT IS LESS THAN 10% OF THEIR BUDGET, WE SAID TO FUND THEM AT THE FULL AMOUNT BECAUSE THEY CAN MEET THAT AND IT IS 10% OF THE
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OPERATING. IT IS A CAP ON THE OPERATING EXPENSE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL CLEAR ON WHAT WE ARE DOING AND IT IS 10% OF THE ASK.SOME OF THE NONPROFIT WILL SPEAK THAT -- WILL SPEAK TO THAT.
JUST MAKING SURE THAT WAS CLEAR. >> THAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? TO ME THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SEEM -- WHEN WE WERE RAISING OUR KIDS, EQUAL AND FAIR ARE NOT THE SAME.
I THINK THAT SHOULD APPLY FOR NONPROFITS AND WE ARE KIND OF TRYING TO LOOK AT THEM ALL AS EQUAL AND NOT NECESSARILY AS FAIR. THAT GIVES THE LARGER -- THE ORGANIZATION THAT'S HAVE A LARGER OPERATING BUDGET, IT -- LIKE ONE OF THE EQUAL -- QUALIFIERS, MOST OF THE STAFF IS VOLUNTEER IF THEY HAD PAID STAFF.
LAKE AREA MINISTRIES DOES HAVE A PAID STAFF, BUT FOR 36 YEARS THEY HAVE OPERATED ON ON VOLUNTEER SERVICES.
AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PROBABLY REFLECTED HERE TONIGHT THAT PEOPLE GIVE GREAT AMOUNTS OF THEIR TIME, AND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN IT IS NOT A GOOD ORGANIZATION THAT THE COUNTY SHOULD PROVIDE FUNDING FOR. AND SO WE PUT A STRIKE AGAINST THEM BECAUSE THEY AREN'T PAYING AN EMPLOYEE.
THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO USE THEIR FUNDS ANOTHER WAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A GOOD MEASURE OF AN ORGANIZATION'S ABILITY TO BE SUCCESSFUL. THAT'S MY OPINION.
>> CAN WE GET SOME CLARITY ON WHERE THE CRITERIA FOR MEASURING
THESE NONPROFITS CAME FROM? >> THE CRITERIA WAS PUT TOGETHER LAST YEAR BEFORE MY TIME WITH THE COUNTY.
IT WAS SOMETHING APPROVED BY YOU ALL BEFORE IT WAS SEPTEMBER -- BEFORE IT WAS SENT OUT AS AN APPLICATION.
>> OUR TIME. >> YES, BEFORE OUR TIME.
WE ARE JUST PICKING IT UP AT THE TOP.
>> SO IT IS PROBABLY GOOD TO GET THOSE SO SHE CAN SEE THAT AND WE
CAN REFRESH OUR MEMORY ALSO. >> IT IS ON THE SLIDE.
>> IT IS A SCORING MATRIX. >> IT CAME TO US A COUPLE TIMES AND PRIVATELY AS WELL. AT THIS POINT IT IS LATE IN THE GAME TO START CHANGING THE WAY THE MATRIX WORKS.
THAT'S BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE ALL APPROVED -- WE LOOKED AT IT A COUPLE TIMES AND APPROVED IT. THIS IS NEVER EASY.
WE ARE FORTUNATE IN CLAY COUNTY TO HAVE A NUMBER OF NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS. THEY USE IT 125 OR 130 DIFFERENT NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS DOING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF WORK IN OUR COMMUNITY AND TO MAKE A DETERMINATION OF PICKING ONE OVER ANOTHER IS ALWAYS HARD. THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO TAKE SOME OF THE EMOTION OUT OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS IN TERMS OF GIVING THE MONEY TO THESE GROUPS BY DOING THE MATE TRICKS SO -- MATRIX SO THERE ARE COLD, HARD NUMBERS YOU ARE LOOKING AT.
IS THAT FAIR? DOES SOMEBODY HAVE A BETTER IDEA AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SPOKEN UP ABOUT IT BEFORE.
I THINK WE ALL MOVE FORWARD AND AT THIS POINT THIS IS THE BEST WE HAVE TO WORK WITH EACH ORGANIZATION AGAINST THEMSELVES
AND AGAINST THE MATRIX. >> WELL, I THINK YOU CAN LOOK AT THE SCORES AND SEE WHERE WE CAN MAKE IMPROVEMENT GOING FORWARD.
IT IS THE FIRST EFFORT OF ITS KIND.
IT WAS SIMILAR TO WHEN TDC, THE TOURISM AND DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, DID THEIR MATRIX BEFORE GIVING OUT GRANTS TOOK IT OUT OF THE PROCEEDINGS IN TERMS OF COMING UP WITH PEOPLE AND IT FULFILLED THE OBLIGATION THAT A GRANT HAS TO MEET.
IF THERE IS AN ODD -- BASED ON WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION AND BASED ON THE CRITERIA, ONE ORGANIZATION
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THAT SERVES 13 PEOPLE IN THE CUNTY IS GONNA GET A QUARTER OFTHIS NONPROFIT ALLOCATION. >> I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS PERFECT.
>> I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE FORETHOUGHT.
>> I THINK JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, UNTIL YOU SEE AN APPLICATION OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU SEE IT HOW IT HAPPENS AND THE RESULTS OF IT. YOU CAN'T GET THE FULL SCOPE OF IT UNTIL WE HAVE SEEN IT AND LOOKING AT THE FUTURE.
WE NEED TO FINE-TUNE IT. TO ME, SEEING THESE WAY BACK WHEN AND SEEING IT NOW ACTUALLY APPLIED IS DIFFERENT.
WE KNOW THEY HAVE TO BE DONE BY 2024.
THAT'S THE BIGGEST PART OF THIS WHOLE THING.
>> THEY DIDN'T GET ANY MONEY IN THIS SCHEME AS WELL, BUT THEY JUST RECENTLY RECEIVED A STATE FARM $25,000 GRANT WITHIN THE LAST PROBABLY 90 DAYS. SALVATION ARMY RECEIVED $1.2 BILLION FROM THE MCDONALD'S CORPORATION AND JOAN CROC. THEY HAVE MULTIPLE REVENUE SOURCE AVAILABILITY. YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR IT AND YOU HAVE TO MEET THE CRITERIA. LIKE I SAID, NO OTHER NONPROFIT GO THAT GRANT. NOTHING'S PERFECT, BUT THIS ISN'T THE ONLY SOURCE OF INCOME REVENUE FOR THESE NON-PROFITS.
IT IS JUST ONE OF THEM. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN EVERY PROPOSAL YOU WRITE.
I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION THAT MAY NEED CLARIFICATION.
THE 2024 DEADLINE, IF A GROUP GOT A REIMBURSE -- REIMBURSABLE PAYMENT OR AN ADVANCE AND DO NOT MEET THE 2024 DEADLINE WHAT
HAPPENS? >> THEY WOULD HAVE TO GIVE THAT
MONEY BACK. >> IS THAT BOLDED AND UNDERLINED
IN THE DOCUMENTS? >> IT WILL BE IN THE CONTRACT.
>> THAT'S WHERE YOU WILL CALL THEM AND TALK TO THEM.
>> THAT'S GOING TO BE THE HARDER DECISION TO MAKE.
>> MY QUESTION WOULD BE TO ADD TO -- ADD ON TO THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DEADLINE PRIOR TO THE END OF 2024 SO IF AN ORGANIZATION IS NOT ABLE TO USE THE MONEY WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE IT BACK TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND WE CAN REALLOCATE
IT. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, I THINK THAT'S A COUPLE THINGS, A, THAT'S WHY -- CAN YOU GO TO THE LAST SLIDE, PLEASE? ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF IS THESE ALL BE REIMBURSABLE FOR THE SMALL ONES AND IF IT IS OVER $20,000 IT IS REIMBURSABLE IN ADVANCE TO PROTECT THE COUNTY. AT THE END OF THE DAY YOUR -- YOU AS THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND WE AS COUNTY STAFF ARE THE ONE THAT'S HAVE TO SIGN OFF THIS TO THE -- YOUR COMPTROLLER HAS TO SIGN THIS OFF TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT WE SPENT IT APPROPRIATELY BEFORE THE 2024 DEADLINE.
INTERNATIONALLY WE TALKED ABOUT AN OCTOBER 1ST OR SEPTEMBER 30TH DEADLINE TO GIVE AS YOU THREE-WINDOW TO DO OUR PAPERWORK AND HAVE MY TEAM SUBMIT IT ALL.
IF YOU REMEMBER CARES, WE GAVE THE MONEY AND WERE CHASING PAPERWORK. IT TOOK US SEVERAL MONTHS TO CHASE THE PAPERWORK TO CLOSE OUT EVERYTHING PROPERLY.
>> ALSO IS THERE AN ABILITY TO PUT INTO THE CONTRACT -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORD IT. IT IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS NOT BEING FUNDED ON HERE. YOU FOE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS. THERE WAS AN ORGANIZATION THAT GOT CARES ACT MONEY TO PURCHASE A VAN.
IT WAS AS A GRANT. AND THEN LAST SUMMER THEY SOLD THE VAN AT A PROFIT. I FEEL LIKE THAT IS DISINGENUOUS TO THE INTENT OF THE COMMISSIONERS WHO GRANTED IT, AND I WAS NOT A COMMISSIONER AT THAT TIME.
WHEN THAT GRANT WAS GIVEN IT WAS FOR A SPECIFIC INTENT.
THAT NONPROFIT IS STILL IN BUSINESS TODAY, AND THEY SOLD THE ASSET THEY BOUGHT WITH THE GRANT.
I'M WONDER FIGURE THERE IS -- IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN PUT INTO THE CONTRACT LANGUAGE THEY CAN'T GO AND DISPOSE OF THIS OR AT A
PROFIT OR, I DON'T KNOW. >> AS FAR AS THE DISPOSAL OF THE ASSET I HAVE TO DEFER TO YOUR LEGAL TEAM.
I WILL SAY FROM A FEDERAL STANDPOINT AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE MAKING OF A PROFIT HAS BEEN CLARIFIED ARPA.
HENCE, THERE IS ONE OF YOUR -- ONE OF THE SUBMITTALS WAS TO
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IMPROVE RENTAL PROPERTY TO MAKE MONEY.ARPA CLEARLY SAID IF YOU ARE MAKING MONEY, SO IN THIS CASE WHEN YOU SELL SOMETHING, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT ANY PROFIT BACK TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF DOING SOMETHING IN ARPA.
AS FAR AS THE SELLING OF IT, I MEAN COURTNEY'S TEAM WILL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE ABILITY TO RESTRICT THAT AND TURN THE ASSET BACK TO THE COUNTY. OR HAVE THE GRANTS THE COUNTY GIVES SAYING IF THEY GET RID OF THE ASSET THEY HAVE TO LET THE STATE KNOW AND THEY CAN GET THE ASSET BACK.
>> MAYBE I'M NOT BEING FAIR. I DON'T WANT TO PENALIZE ALL NONPROFITS FOR A BAD DECISION IN MY MIND MADE BY ONE NONPROFIT, BUT IT IS TAXPAYER MONEY THAT WE ARE GRANTING FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE AND WE NEED TO BE HONEST ABOUT THE -- OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, THOUGHTS ABOUT THE PROPOSALS ON THE LAST SLIDE?
>> THE TIMELINE IS 12 MONTHS FOR THE NON-PROFITS, ESSENTIALLY, TO COMPLETE THEIR PROJECT ONCE THEY RECEIVE THE FUNDS FROM US.
IF WE SET A DEADLINE -- 16? OKAY.
SO 16 MONTHS TO GET IT DONE SO THAT WE CAN GET THE PAPERWORK COLLECTED BEFORE THE END OF NEXT YEAR.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT. >> WE DON'T HAVE -- WE ARE NOT MAKING A DECISION TONIGHT. I'M SORRY COMMISSIONER, GO AHEAD, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION IF YOU DON'T WANT TO. GO AHEAD.
>> I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO SORT OF HAVE A FRAMEWORK BEFORE WE LEAVE HERE TONIGHT. AS WE ALL SIT IN BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING, WE WILL HAVE AN IDEA WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE A FRAMEWORK. I WOULD HATE TO GET HERE IN TWO WEEKS TIME AND BE DEADLOCKED OVER WHO IS IN AND WHO IS NOT IN. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THE INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO THE LAKE AREA MINISTRIES AS TO WHY IT WAS DETERMINED THAT IT WOULDN'T -- THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE ELIGIBLE. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
MY FEELING IS WE TRY TO GIVE AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO AS MANY AS WE CAN. AND MAYBE WE HAVE TO GO IN IN SOME CASES AND MAKE A DETERMINATION WHERE WE ARE GIVING MONEY -- FOR EXAMPLE, WE ARE HELPING WITH HOME RENTAL AND PROPERTY MANAGE -- MANAGEMENT. TO ME THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A PROJECT THAT WILL BE COMPLETED. IT SOUNDS LIKE MULTIPLE THINGS.
THEY ARE RENTING OUT PROPERTY. >> WHICH ORGANIZATION ARE YOU
REFERRING TO? >> SALVATION ARMY.
>> THE SALVATION ARMY, WHEN WE SAT DOWN AND BASED OFF OF THE RECOMMENDED AMOUNT WE TOOK OUT THE FUNDS THAT WERE A DUPLICATION OF SERVICE ALREADY OFFERED IN THE COUNTY.
THEIR INITIAL REQUEST WAS $138,000.
THAT'S WHY THAT AMOUNT WAS LESS. WE TOOK OUT THE FUNDING THAT WE CAN PROVIDE BY THE EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WE CURRENTLY OFFER. AND THEY HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED AND ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH SUBMITTING THOSE APPLICATIONS
THROUGH THE PROGRAM. >> SO, DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION ON THE PROJECTS TO --
>> SO FOR INSTANCE, THE FIRST ONE HAS SOLAR PANELS AND RESTROOMS FOR OUTDOOR FACILITY IES ON THERE.
IF YOU ARE RECOMMENDING FUNDING, THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO ALL THAT, IF YOU ARE RECOMMENDING FUNDING AT A LOWER AMOUNT THAN REQUESTED. SO I GUESS --
>> WE ARE NOT THE ONLY MONEY COMING IN.
>> IT IS ON THE ONUS ON THEM TO BRIDGE THAT GAP THOUGH.
WE ARE JUST ONE SOURCE. THEY SHOULD UNDERSTAND, I'M THINKING, THAT THEY DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IS BEING MADE AVAILABLE
>> I THINK, IF I MAY, I THINK AFTER TONIGHT ONCE WE GET AN IDEA WE WILL GO BACK. IF WE SAY, HEY, YOU WANTED 35 AD WE ARE FUNDING YOU 18 WHAT DO YOU PLAN ON DOING? WHEN WE WRITE THE CONTRACT WITH THEM, WE WANT TO BE CLEAR OF WHAT OUR MONEY IS GOING TO. IF THEY SAID I WANT TO DO ALL OF THESE GREAT THINGS, BUT WE CAN ONLY FUND 18,000, BUT WE ARE GOING TO WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT. THAT'S WHERE IT ALLOWS US TO GO
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BACK TO THE FIRMS. I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH WA*UPD WE RECOMMEND 120. I TALKED TO THEM AND THEY SAID I CAN DO WHAT I WANT TO DO FOR 120 AND WE'LL FIND ANOTHER 120,000.THOSE ARE THE NEXT CONVERSATIONS WE NEED TO HAVE BASED ON SOME DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD. A LOT OF THOSE NONPROFITS ARE
HERE TONIGHT. >> I DIDN'T GET CARDS FOR PEOPLE
TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM. >> I DON'T KNOW IF THEY PLAN TO SPEAK, BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL IN THE AUDIENCE.
I THINK THAT'S THE INTENT TODAY. IF YOU SAY I WILL FUND EVERYBODY AT THE 15, THAT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THE SMALL PROJECTS AT 15 AND CAPITAL PROJECTS AT 10% DEPENDING ON LAKE AREA MINISTRY IT PUTS US CLOSE TO THE 800,000 CAP.
AND THEN FROM THAT POINT WE WOULD GO BACK AND ENGAGE WITH EACH OF THE NON-PROFITS AND SAY HERE IS WHAT THE BOARD HAS RECOMMENDED. THEY WILL APPROVE IT NEXT WEEK.
GIVE AS YOU THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN ON WHAT WE CAN DO TO WRITE THE CONTRACTS AND GET EVERYTHING MOVING.
>> I HAVE A POSSIBILITY. THEY CALLED AND THEY SAID WE ARE NOT ABLE TO FINISH IT BY TO 024 BECAUSE IT IS NOT IF YOU HAVE FUNDS. THEN WE TAKE THEM OFF THE LIST
AND PUT IT BACK IN THE POT. >> WE WOULD COME BACK NEXT WEEK AND SAY THESE THREE ORGANIZATIONS SAID WE CAN'T DO IT AND WE WANT TO PULL OUT. THANK YOU, BUT NO THANK YOU.
AND THEN THE BOARD HAS ANOTHER DECISION AFTER THAT.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WOULD THINK. >> IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF THIS GETTING PUSHED BACK TO MARCH WITH THAT MUCH -- WELL, IT IS NOT FLEXIBILITY, BUT IT IS A LOT OF FLUCTUATION.
IF HER SCENARIO PLAYS OUT AND SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS COME BACK TO US AND SAY THEY CAN'T ACCOMPLISH THIS WITHIN 16 MONTHS, DO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER PROSER IS OF SELECT
I DON'T THINK WE WOULD NEED TO DO THAT.
>> IT IS UP TO THE BOARD'S DISCRETION.
MY RECOMMENDATION IS GET TO WHERE YOU ARE AT TONIGHT.
WHATEVER YOU DECIDE. WE MAKE THE PHONE CALLS.
IF YOU SAY WHAT IS THE TOTAL ON THE FUNDING LIST? 15 SAY, SURE, I CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT.
LET'S ALLOW LEGAL TO WORK ON THE CONTRACTS AND GET THAT DONE.
IF YOU HAVE 100,000, $200,000 LEFT, THE BOARD CAN MAKE THE DECISION OF GIVE IT TO OTHER PEOPLE, UP THE AMOUNT YOU ARE GIVING PEOPLE, OR CREATE A WHOLE OTHER APPLICATION PROCESS.
IT IS A TWO-PHASE OR THREE-PHASE APPROACH.
>> THE TIME FRAME IS THE SAME FOR THE ORGANIZATIONS IS WHAT
I'M GETTING AT, RIGHT? >> THE TIME FRAME REMAINS THE SAME BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAYS COME DECEMBER 31ST, 2024, IF MS. MOSEL -- MOSLEY DOESN'T HAVE A REPORT SAYING WE SPENT EVERY DOLLAR WE WANT MONEY BACK.
>> SO THE ORGANIZATIONS WILL HAVE LESS TIME TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT. OKAY.
>> AS THE PROPOSAL SITS TONIGHT, ONLY THREE ORGANIZATIONS TOTAL OF THE 20 THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT ARE GOING TO GET THE FULL AMOUNT THEY ASKED FOR. BUT THERE ARE THREE GOING TO GET THE FULL AMOUNT THEY ASKED FOR IF IT IS VOTED ON THE WAY IT
SITS TODAY. >> AND I WANT TO CLARIFY IT IS 15 ORGANIZATIONS AND NOT 19. IT IS 15.
>> I THOUGHT YOU SAID THERE WERE 20 -- I THOUGHT YOU SAID THERE
WERE 28. >> THAT WAS THE INITIAL AMOUNT THAT WENT THROUGH THE REQUIREMENTS OF SUBMITTING INFORMATION. BUT BECAUSE OF THE FOUR ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE TO NOT RECEIVE FUNDING BASED OFF OF THE ARPA GUIDELINES OR BECAUSE OF THEIR -- BECAUSE OF THE RENTAL ELEMENT BROUGHT IN NOT CONSIDERED FOR FUNDING IT TOTALS
>> 15, CORREC. >> STILL, ONLY THREE OF THE 15 ARE GOING TO BE RECEIVING IF THEY ARE VOTED ON AS IT SITS, THE FULL REQUEST. THE REST WOULD BE A PARTIAL.
AND I IMAGINE FOR SOME IT IS PROHIBITIVE.
>> AND MAYBE THEY DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.
DO YOU THINK THEY KNOW THEY HAVE TO BE DONE IN 2024?
DO YOU THINK THEY KNOW THAT? >> WE HELD AN INFO SESSION HERE IN THE CHAMBERS BEFORE AM -- APPLICATIONS WERE SUBMITTED.
>> SO THEY ALL THINK THEY CAN BE DONE BY 2024?
>> YES. >> BUT ARE YOU ASKING AGAIN.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> IT IS A CONTINGENCY.
THEY HAVE TO. >> THEY HAVE TO.
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>> I MEAN, SOME OF THEM ARE NOT REALLY OF CONCERN.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> I IMAGINE THE PROGRAMMING ONES ARE NOT OF A CONCERN. THE CAPITAL PROJECTS WHICH ARE
THE $200,000 CASH -- -- >> THAT'S WHY WE SAID 15% FOR THE DIRECT SURVEY SMALL PROJECTS.
>> OKAY. I RECOMMEND WE DO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING HERE AND THEN YOU CALL THEM.
THEY DETERMINED WHETHER THEY CAN BE DONE BY 2024 AND IF THEY CAN DO IT WITH THE FUNDS WE SAY WE CAN GIVE, AND IF NOT WE PUT IT IN THE POT AND GIVE THOSE THAT ARE STILL THERE MORE.
>> THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION, BUT WE CAN MOVE ON.
>> TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PHRASE THIS, BUT THE COMMISSION LOOKS FAVORABLY ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS PRESENTED TONIGHT.
>> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
>> I I WOULD GO WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF THE 15% TEAR .
ARE WE LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE ARE DISQUALIFYING THOUGHTS APPLIED IN THE WRONG FASHION SO WE CAN MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.
AND ANY MONIES THAT NEED TO BE REALLOCATED BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BY OCTOBER OF 24, WE HAVE EXTRA MONEY. SO EVEN IF LAKE AREA MINISTRIES IS ADDED BACK IN THERE ARE MONIES AND IT WON'T AFFECT THE OTHERS IN TOO BIG A FASHION. I RECOMMEND GIVING STAFF PER -- PERMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH 15% AND 10% AS RECOMMENDED AND SEE WHERE EVERYBODY SITS AFTER THEY GET DONE TALKING.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. >> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT
TO ADD? >> ANYTHING ELSE? DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE FEEDBACK YOU GOT?
SO WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 25.
[25. Final Public Hearing to consider Adoption of CPA 2022-21. (B. Carson)]
WE ARE ONLY SKIPPING ONE ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA.WE WILL HAVE THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF CPA2022-21. MS. CARSON.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. BETH CARSON WITH PLANNING AND ZONING. I ORIGINALLY BROUGHT THIS ITEM TO YOU IN DECEMBER FOR CONSIDERATION FOR TRANSMITTAL.
WE TRANSMITTED IT AND I WILL GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW OF IT.
THE ORIGINAL NORTHEAST MAP IS SHOWN ON THE LEFT AND IT INCLUDES AN ALIGNMENT THAT COMES PARTIALLY DOWN LANDING BOULEVARD, BUT THEN TAKES A DETOUR TO 218 THROUGH THE LAKE ASBURY AREA. WHEN THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WAS DONE, THEY FOUND THAT THE HIGHEST SCORING PATHWAY TOOK IT DOWN LANDING. OUR BIKE WAYS MAP DID NOT INCLUDE THAT LINK. IT WAS THE LINK BETWEEN LONG BAY DOWN TO 16TH. THE PORTION GOING THROUGH THE LAKE ASBURY AREA WILL REMAIN ON THE MAP.
IT WAS TRANSMITTED IN DECEMBER AND THERE ARE NO COMMENTS AND OBJECTIONS. WITH THAT STAFF WOULD ASK FOR --
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. >> QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR MOTION AND DISCUSSION.
>> MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY
[26. Public Hearing for consideration of an Ordinance amending Clay County Ordinance 88-69, as amended, which is codified in Article III of Chapter 18.3 of the Clay County Code, Tourist Development Tax, to provide for auditing by and assessment, collection and enforcement of payment of delinquent taxes by the County Tax Collector (C. Grimm/K. Morgan))]
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>> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0.
ITEM 26, PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CLAY COUNTY ORDINANCE 88-69, AS AMENDED, WHICH IS CODIFIED IN ARTICLE 3 OF CHAPTER 18.3 OF THE CLAY COUNTY CODE FOR THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX MS. MORGAN.
THIS AGENDA ITEM IS JUST A -- IT IS REQUESTING A CHANGE TO THIS ORDINANCE THAT ACTUALLY TRANSFERS THE AUDITING -- THE TDT COLLECTIONS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE TO OUR
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. MORGAN?
>> AND WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
>> HI. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
>> ALL RIGHT. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE AUDITING OF OUR TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX BEING MOVED FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE TO OUR LOCAL TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK FOR A MOTION AND DISCUSSION.
>> MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS ORDINANCE.
>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
WHAT I WILL SAY FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT IS THE EXPECTATION THAT THIS WILL ACTUALLY INCREASE OUR TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX COLLECTION BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH GREAT STAFF IN THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE WHO IS DILIGENT IN THEIR WORK AND THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE. THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME EAGLE EYE IS MY UNDERSTANDING, CORRECT?
>> THEY DO HAVE 66 OTHER COUNTIES TO LOOK AT.
>> THEY DO. >> IT IS A GOOD TAOUPLT -- OPPORTUNITY AND HOPEFULLY OUR LEGISLATURE SEES FEET TO LEAD THIS WHERE -- SEES FIT TO LEAD THIS.
AND WHERE OUR TOURIST DEVELOPMEN TAX COMES FROM, WE SHOULD CLARIFY THAT THIS IS WHEN PEOPLE COME AND STAY IF HOTELS IN CLAY COUNTY, THIS IS THE TAX COLLECTED THERE.
OUR RESIDENTS UNLESS THEY ARE STAYING IN A HOTEL OR AIRBNB, VACATION RENTAL, THEY DO NOT PAY THIS TAX, AND IT COULD ONLY BE USED FOR CERTAIN THINGS. ANY FURTHER CLARIFICATION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING I.
>> I. >> THOSE APIECE -- THOSE
[27. Public Hearing for consideration of an Ordinance amending Clay County Ordinance 03-30, as amended, which is codified in Article IV of Chapter 16 of the Clay County Code, relating to Public School Impact Fees (C. Grimm)]
OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0.>> THANK YOU. >> ITEM 27, PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CLAY COUNTY ORDINANCE 03-30, AS AMENDED, WHICH IS CODIFIED IN ARTICLE 4 OF CHAPTER 16 OF THE CLAY COUNTY CODE RELATING TO PUBLIC SCHOOL IMPACT FEES. MS. GRIMM.
>> YES. AS REQUIRED BY THE STATUTE IMPACT FEES, THE SCHOOL BOARD UPDATED THEIR STUDY AND HAD A NEW STUDY PERFORMED AND IN CONNECTION WITH THAT THEY HAVE -- THE BOARD HAS APPROVED THEIR STURDY AND HAS FORWARDED IT TO YOU FOR YOUR REVIEW AND REQUESTED THAT YOUR ORDINANCE BE UPDATED TO REFLECT THE STUDY DETERMINATION TO ALTER OR AMEND THE IMPACT FEE THAT'S ARE BEING ASSESSED.
YOU WILL NOTICE THAT IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WE PRESENTED, THE IN THE FEES THAT IT LASS -- THAT IT HAS TO BE PHASED OUT OVER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME AND IT IS CAPPED.
ALTHOUGH THE STUDY REQUESTED A MUCH LARGER AMOUNT, BY STATUTE IT IS CAPPED AND REQUIRED TO BE SPREAD OUT OVER FOUR YEARS.
THERE ARE MEMBERS FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT ARE HERE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM HERE TO HELP.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR SCHOOL DISTRICT, STAFF OR FOR COURTNEY BEFORE WE OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING?
>> I JUST HAVE A COMMENT. I THINK I HAVE CORRECTED IT, BUT THE IMPACT FEES WILL BE RAISED DUE TO THE CAP AND THE FLORIDA STATUTE OUT LIMB TKAEUGS -- LIMITATIONS, IT WILL BE 10% A
YEAR IS THAT RIGHT? >> IT WILL GO UP ABOUT 12.5%.
>> 12 AND A HALF? >> I KNOW THEY LIKE TO TALK ABOUT SCHOOLS. IF YOU COULD KIND OF GIVE THE PUBLIC -- WE READY KNOW WE ARE IN A BIND.
WE NEED SCHOOLS. OUR KIDS ARE AT MAX CAPACITY AT OUR SCHOOLS AND PEOPLE ARE STILL COMING IN BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A WONDERFUL COUNTY. CAN YOU LET US KNOW WHEN WE ARE EXPECTING TO HAVE MORE SCHOOLS STP IF YOU CAN -- AND IF YOU CAN
CLARIFY. >> IT IS NOT 12 AND A HALF
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PERCENT OF WHERE IT IS NOW. IT IS 12 AND A HALF PERCENT OF THE 50% THAT IS ALLOWED TO INCREASE THE IMPACT FEES.IT IS ONLY GOING UP $800 A YEAR. SO IT WAS 12,000 PER FAMILY HOME, SO BECAUSE OF THE CAP WE CAN ONLY GO TO 10,000 AND CHANGE. BECAUSE OF THE 10,000 WE CAN ONLY INCREASE TO THE 10,000 OR 12 AND A HALF PERCENT AT A TIME.
IT IS NOT ALL THROWN ON THEM AT ONCE.
IT IS MAZED IN. >> IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE.
WE GOT A BRIEF ON WHY THIS IS NEEDED.
I THINK YOU HAD -- SOMEONE HAD SOME DATA ON ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND WHAT IT COSTS THREE YEARS AGO AND WHAT IT COSTS TODAY AND
WE ARE CONSTRUCTING IT AT $40 MILLION.
IT IS THE SAME DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
DISCOVERY OAKS WAS 2018 AND THAT WAS 26 MILLION.
AS YOU KNOW THE COSTS ARE EXORBITANT.
WE ARE LOOKING AT A K8 AND HIGH SCHOOL IN THE NEXT SEVEN YEARS.
THE COST IS TOTALING $200 MILLION.
AND THAT -- THERE THAT DOESN'T COUNT TAKING CARE OF THE SCHOOLS WE CURRENTLY HAVE. IT IS THE SAME PROBLEMS YOU GUYS
SEE. >> AND FOR THE PUBLIC'S KNOWLEDGE THIS IS OUR ASSISTANT FOR OPERATIONS?
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR -- >> JUST A QUICK ONE.
YOU SAID K-8. IS THAT THE WAY YOU THINK YOU WILL BE MOVING IN THE FUTURE OR IS IT JUST ISOLATED BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU NEED IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA?
>> PART IS -- PART IS IT IS CHEAPER TO BUILD THAT AREA AND RIGHT NOW TALKING WITH ST. JOHN'S COUNTY THAT'S THE MODEL THEY HAD TO GO TO TO KEEP UP WITH THE GROWTH.
WE ARE EXPECTING THE SAME KIND OF GROWTH.
>> THEY WILL STILL BE SEPARATE? >> YES.
THERE ARE DIFFERENT DESIGNS TO HAVE LIKE AN ADMINISTRATION IN THE MIDDLE AND THE TWO SEPARATE KIND OF CAMPUSES.
THA*SZ -- THAT'S HOW ST. JOHN'S COUNTY HAS THEM SET UP AND WE
LIKED HOW THEY OPERATED. >> ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, I WAS OVER FOR A BROADBAND CONFERENCE A FEW WEEKS AGO AND THEY HAVE TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS LITERALLY BESIDES EACH OTHER.
>> WHICH WAS THAT? >> IT WAS UPON TAU VEE -- PONTE VI IDRA. ONE WAS PONTE VIDRA ELEMENTARY AND LITERALLY ANOTHER SCHOOL. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAD EXTRA
>> THEY REALLY LIKE THE LOCATION.
>> PROBABLY THE FACT THEY HAVE THE LAND.
>> I WAS ABLE TO DO A PARENT DROP OFF.
>> THAT'S ALWAYS FUN. >> I HAVE A COMMENT FOR THE PUBLIC. THE REASON FOR THIS HEARING OR THIS EVENT TONIGHT IS JUST ADMINISTRATIVE IN NATURE.
THIS PROPOSAL WAS APPROVED BY THE SCHOOL -- THE SCHOOL BOARD.
>> 5-0. ACTUALLY IT HAD A 5-0 VOTE,
>> AND I TALKED WITH SOME OF THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR BRYCE OR LANCE?
>> AND IT ACTUALLY STAYED QUIET. I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT.
>> THE MEETING IS NOT OVER YET. >> I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IMPACT FEES? I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK FOR A MOTION AND DISCUSSION.
>> MADAM CHAIR, I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING I.
>> I. >> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. THANK YOU.
[24. RFQ No. 22/23-11, Construction Engineering and Inspection Services for American Rescue Plan Act Projects (K. Smith / T. Abernathy)]
AND WE WILL NOW GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 24.IT IS RFQ NUMBER 22/23-11, CONSTRUCTION ENGINEERING AND INSPECTION SERVICES FOR ARPA PLAN PROJECT, SPEAKING OF ARPA.
>> YES. SPEAK -- SPEAKING OF ARPA AND WE
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SPOKE A LOT. WE ISSUED AN RFQ FOR THE ENGINEERING FIRMS TO DO THESE INSPECTION SERVICES FOR MANY OF OUR ARPA PROJECTS. MANY OF THEM ARE DRAINAGE PROJECTS. WE HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS IN LINE. WE TALK ABOUT TIMELINE TONIGHT QUITE A BIT. DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF PROJECTS AND THE TIMELINE, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TOP THREE FIRMS. WE HAD FOUR THAT SUBMITTED AND STAFF EVALUATED THEM. WE HAD ENGINEERING STAFF AND PUBLIC WORKS STAFF THAT WERE PART OF THE COMMITTEE.WITH THAT WE ARE PRESENTING EISMAN AND RUSSO INK INK NUMBER 1 AND -- INC. NUMBER ONE, AND NUMBER TWO IS GAE CONSULTANTS.
WE WILL NEGOTIATE A CON -- CONTRACT AND BRING THAT BACK TO
THE BOARD. >> QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> PROVE -- MOVE APPROVAL OF ALL THREE ENGINEERING FIRMS.
>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. THEY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
>> I SEE THAT WE HAVE MR. JAMESON FROM GAI.
DO WE HAVE ANY OF THE OTHER FIRMS REPRESENTED HERE TONIGHT? THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
>> I APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU.
WE APPRECIATE YOU. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, INDICATE BY SAYING I.
MOTION CARRIES 5-0. >> THANK YOU.
[28. Acceptance of Resignation from the Historic Preservation Board]
>> LETTERS FOR ACTION, WE HAVE AN ACCEPTANCE FROM THE RESIGNATION FROM THE HISTORIC PRESS -- PRESERVATION BOARD.
HE HAD A REASON FOR SUBMITTING HIS RESIGNATION AND IT IS RECOMMENDED WE ACCEPT THE RESIGNATION.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I WILL MOVE APPROVAL FOR
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY
>> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0.
[29. Discussion of Appointment to the Middleburg/Clay Hill Citizens Advisory Committee]
DISCUSSION OF APPOINTMENT TO THE MID-- MIDDLEBURG/CLAY HILL CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. KAREN JOHNS IS SPEAKING -- SEEKING APPOINTMENT. THIS IS THE CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND IT CURRENTLY HAS EIGHT MEMBERS AND IT CAN HAVE UP TO 11. MS. JOHNS, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW -- WHAT HAPPENED. SHE THOUGHT SHE SUBMITTED HER APPLICATION, AND SHE THOUGHT WE APPROVED HER AND SHE CAME TO THE FIRST MEETING. SO SHE IS ALREADY VOLUNTEERING, BUT SHE WOULD APPRECIATE IF WE WOULD ACTUALLY APPOINT HER TOTHAT COMMITTEE. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.
>> GO AHEAD. >> SHE LISTS HER ADDRESS AS JACKSONVILLE. IS THAT OKAY?
>> IF YOU WONDERED -- WOO-HOO! IF YOU WONDERED WHERE I WENT AT LUNCH TODAY I SPENT ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF IN CLAY HILL WITH A NUMBER OF CITIZENS AND CONGRESSMAN BEAN.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON TRYING TO GET THEIR OWN ZIP CODE FOR CLAY HILL FOR ABOUT 65 YEARS OR WHATEVER.
SO IN CLAY HILL, IF YOU LIVE KIND OF WEST OF CARTER SPENCER
AREA -- >> OKAY, I UNDERSTAND.
>> YOU HAVE A JACKSONVILLE ADDRESS.
YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR MAIL -- YOUR POST OFFICE IS? BALDWIN. SO THEY CAN PUT ON THERE -- THEY CAN PUT THEIR ADDRESS AS JACKSONVILLE OR BALDWIN OR MAXVILLE. THEY HAVE PROBLEMS GETTING THEIR MAIL. THEY HAVE PROBLEMS GETTING A LIBRARY CARD HERE IN CLAY COUNTY.
THEY ARE QUESTIONED WHEN THEY GO TO VOTE BECAUSE THEY DON'T THINK THEY LIVE IN THE COUNTY. IT'S A REAL ISSUE.
AND NOW WE ARE ON OUR FOURTH IS CONGRESS PERSON WE ARE TRYING TO GET TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE AND CONGRESSMAN BEAN ASSURED US HE IS ON THE CASE. AND SO HE MET US ALL OUT AT JIM BUD'S STORE. IF YOU HAVEN'T STOPPED BY TO GET A DRINK AND A SNACK, YOU'VE MISSED OUT.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE ANSWER TO THAT.
>> THANK YOU. >> YOU WERE NOT EXPECTING THAT
LONG EXPLANATION, WERE YOU? >> I WASN'T.
>> THAT'S A LITTLE CLAY COUNTY HISTORY.
>> WE SHOULD GET MR. FRANCIS TO BE ON THE HISTORIC PRESERATION
>> COMMISSIONER BURKE CAN TALK HIM INTO IT.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE UH POINTMENT.
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>> I AM NOT ASKING. OR MAYBE PUT A TIME LIMIT ON THE
ANSWER. >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> HEY, YOU ARE GETTING OUT EARLY TONIGHT.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY
>> THOSE OPPOSED, MOTION CARRIES 5-0.
[30. Discussion of Appointment to the Health Planning Council of Northeast Florida]
DISCUSSION OF APPOINTMENT TO HEALTH PLANNING COUNCIL OF NORTHEAST FLORIDA. ANDREA CROWDER, THE ASSOCIATE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE WAY FREE MEDICAL CLINIC WISHES TO BE APPOINTED TO THE BOARD TO REPLACE DR. BRADLEY SHUMAKER WHOSE TERM EXPIRED ON OCTOBER 31ST, 2022.I DO NOT HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THIS ONE IF
ANYBODY -- >> MOVE APPROVED -- APPROVAL.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> I THINK ANDREA WOULD BE A GREAT REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE COUNTY ON THAT COUNCIL.
YOU KNOW, SHE WORKED PREVIOUSLY FOR HCA AND MOST FOLKS KNOW HER IN THE COUNTY AND I'M THRILLED TO DEATH SHE IS INTERESTED IN TAKING A CHANCE TO REPRESENT US ON THE COUNCIL.
>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE
>> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0.
[LETTERS OF DOCUMENTATION]
WE HAVE TWO BID OPENING TABOO LAYINGSES -- OPENING BID OPENING TAB -- TABOO LAYINGSES -- TABULATIONS.WE ARE AT OUR SECOND PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I DON'T HAVE CARDS, BUT WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK FOR OUR SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD. COMMISSIONER -- COMMISSION
[COUNTY ATTORNEY]
AUDITOR? NOTHING?SO COMMISSIONER COMPERE ASKED ABOUT ESTABLISHING THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COUNCIL FOR THE DOCTORS INLET RIDGEWOOD DISTRICT AND SO WE HAVE FLEMINGS -- WE HAVE FLEMING EYE LAND AND THE PENNY FARMS LAKE ASBURY. WE HAVE OPENED UP THE APPLICATIONS FOR GREEN CO SPRINGS, BUT HAVEN'T HAD SUFFICIENT INTEREST AT THIS TIME.
WE WOULD JUST NEED MORE PWREBGS TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE APPLICATION FOR THE RIDGEWOOD DISTRICT.
>> CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS? >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
THANK YOU FIRST AND FOREMOST FOR LOOKING INTO THAT.
CONTEXT FOR THE REQUEST IS THAT WE'VE HAD SOME PROJECTS COME UP RECENTLY WHERE THE COMMUNITY WANTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE DEVELOPER BEFORE IT IS PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. WITHOUT HAVING THAT STEP INITIALLY IT MADE IT A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING AND TOUGH FOR THE GUYS AND GALS UP HERE. THAT'S WHY I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT. HOWEVER, YOU JUST SAID SOMETHING ABOUT COMMISSIONER BURKE AND THEIR CAC ATTEMPT.
WHAT DOES SUFFICIENT INTEREST LOOK LIKE?
>> WE NEED EIGHT TO 11 MEMBERS? >> FIVE.
I THOUGHT IT WAS FIVE TO 11. >> I AM NOT CERTAIN, BUT THERE IS A CERTAIN MEMBERSHIP REQUIREMENT.
THE ONE WE OPEN UP FOR APPLICATIONS EVEN THOUGH WE WERE REQUESTED TO OPEN IT UP, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED SUFFICIENT APPLICATIONS TO INFORM THE COUNCIL.
>> WHERE CAN I FIND THE CRITERIA FOR CAC?
>> WE CAN SEND IT TO YOU. IT IS IN THE CODE.
>> THANK YOU. >> I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU ALSO ASK THERESA GIVE YOU THE ELECTRONIC LINK TO THE APPLICATION. YOU MAY HAVE RESIDENTS WHILE IT IS NOT THAT HARD TO FIND, THEY THINK IT IS HARD TO FIND ON THE WEBSITE AND YOU CAN EMAIL IT OUT.
>> THAT WAS HELPFUL TO ME. >> I THINK WHAT ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS SHOULD BE AWARE OF, REMEMBER THESE AREN'T BASED ON YOUR COMMISSION DISTRICTS. I I DO BELIEVE PART OF THE DISTRICT OVERLAPS INTO, I THINK COMMISSIONER CONDON -- IT MAY BE
JB'S AS WELL. >> I THOUGHT SO TOO.
WE'LL SEND YOU -- I'LL HAVE THEM FORWARD YOU THE INFORMATION.
>> THANK YOU. >> WE JUST NEED DIRECTION IF EVERYBODY IS IN AGREEMENT WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH OPENING
UP THE APPLICATION. >> I'M IF FULL -- I'M IN FULL AGREEMENT. I THINK IT IS ONE OF THE BEST WAYS WE CAN HAVE CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT ON WHAT DEVELOPMENT EVEN -- WHAT PLANS COME TO THE PLANNINGS -- PLANNING COMMISSION
MUCH LESS THE BCC. >> ANYONE ELSE HAVE CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS? ANYTHING ELSE?
[COUNTY MANAGER]
>> MR. COUNTY MANAGER. >> I HAVE A -- MADAM CHAIR
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BOARD, JUST ONE ITEM. SEEKING CONSENSUS TO APPLY FOR THE LOWE'S HOMETOWN PROJECT GRANT.IT WOULD BE A PHASE 1 THROUGH THE CDI, COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE GROUP. THE APPLICATION I HAVE HERE -- I HAVE COPIES IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE APPLICATION.
I CAN PASS THAT DOWN. IT IS AN ONLINE FORM GIVING A PARAGRAPH ON THE BACKSIDE. MEGAN REPAIRED THE FORM AND IT HAS THE CONTACT INFORMATION UP FRONT.
THE STATEMENTS IN THE BACK TALK ABOUT THE POND TO PARK PROJECT ON COLLEGE DRIVE. ONE AND A HALF AND A MILE LONG WALKWAY THAT IS AROUND THE POND AND THE IMPACT CLAY AND THE CDI GROUP IS CONTACTED AND EVEN THE PRINCIPAL OF DOCTORS INLET IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ALONG WITH EVERYONE IN THE AREA.
AS YOU'VE SEEN THERE WAS AN INITIAL PART OF THE POND AT THE PARK WHERE WE PUT PLANTS OUT THERE AND THERE IS A WALK WE -- WALKWAY FOR PEOPLE TO SIT AND HANG OUT ON SOME BENCHES.
THIS WOULD CONTINUE THE PROJECT TO GO AROUND THE POND.
THIS WOULD JUST BE THE INITIAL APPLICATION.
OBVIOUSLY THERE IS COMPETITION WITH THIS.
OTHERS WOULD ALSO GET TO PUT SUPPORTIVE INFORMATION ON THIS.
BECAUSE IT IS COUNTY PROPERTY WE WOULD BE DOING THIS APPLICATION FOR THE MONIES. THERE IS A PHASE 2 THAT WE WOULDN'T KNOW IF YOU QUALIFY FOR THE NOMINATIONS ARE DUE BY BASICALLY MIDNIGHT, FEBRUARY 20TH.
SO JUST LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS TO ASK FOR A REQUEST FOR THESE MONIES. AND THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS TO BE DETERMINED. I THINK IT IS UP TO $300,000? AND THEN AS THIS IS AN INTERIM PROCESS WITH LOWES, THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS INCREASE OVER TIME AND IT COULD BE AS MUCH AS UP TO -- THE TPOPL UP APPLICATION -- THE FOLLOW-UP APPLICATIONS COULD BE A MILLION DOLLARS. PLANTS, BRICKS, WALKWAYS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS YOU CAN DEAL WITH.
SO JUST LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS, MADAM CHAIR.
>> I WAS LOOKING REAL QUICK AND NOW I AM NOT PUTTING MY HANDS ON IT, BUT I BELIEVE THERE IS ON THE TPO -- ON THE TPO LIST I BELIEVE THERE IS A SIDEWALK THAT IS FOR -- I -- I'LL FIND IT.
YOU MAY WANT TO ADD IT TO THE APPLICATION AS A SUPPORTING THAT THERE IS A SIDEWALK FOR ONE OF THE -- I THINK IT IS FOR --
IT IS DOCTOR'S INLET. >> I SHOULD HAVE MARKED THE
BOOKLET. >> THERE IS A SIDEWALK AND IT IS SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL. IT BEGAN IN 2018.
REMINDER, LANCE IS GONE, BUT THE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL IS PRETTY EASY TO SAY, BUT IT IS HARD TO GET.
IT HAS BEEN FIVE YEARS NOW AND WE ARE JUST NOW GETTING THE FUNDING TO BEGIN THE DESIGN. IT IS A VERY GOOD PROCESS AND IT HAS TO BE INITIATED BY THE SCHOOL FACULTY AND THE ADMINISTRATION. WE CAN WANT ALL WE WANT.
THE TEACHERS AND THE FACULTY AND THE PARENTS HAVE TO GO FOR IT.
THE GREENWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD WILL GET SIDEWALKS ALONG THE STREETS IN THERE AND THEN IT COMES OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE DOCTOR'S INLET ELEMENTARY THAT WOULD BE A GREAT CONNECTION TO THAT. IT WOULD GIVE YOU ACCESS TO THE LAKE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS FROM COLLEGE DRIVE.
>> SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL IS A GRANT PROGRAM BY D.O.T.AND FOR SOME REASON THEY APPROVE PROJECTS, BUT THE FUNDING IS NOT THERE. SO THEY KEEP THESE APPROVED PROJECTS ON THE LIST AND FIVE YEARS IS QUICK.
IT CAN GO OUT 10 YEARS OR SO. >> IS EVERYONE GOOD WITH THE APPLICATION FOR THE LOWE'S HOMETOWN GRANT?
>> EXCELLENT. AND I WILL BE BACK TO THE BOARD.
SHOULD WE BE CHOSEN, I WILL COME BACK AND EXPLAIN WHAT THE NEXT
>> PENDING ANY QUESTIONS FROM ME, HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY, AND I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER FOR THE BOARD.
>> WE ARE GONNA GET Y'ALL OUT EARLY ENOUGH THAT YOU MAY NEED TO TAKE HOME A LITTLE CANDY OR SOMETHING.
>> FLOWERS. >> STOP BY PUBLIX.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNTY MANAGER?
[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]
ALL RIGHT. MOVING TO COMMISSIONER COMMENTS.[01:55:01]
I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE I STARTED LAST TIME.>> WITH ME. >> I STARTED WITH YOU?
OKAY. >> I AM HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THE CLAY GIRLS VARSITY SOCCER TEAM WENT FURTHER THAN THEY HAVE BEEN IN OVER 20 YEARS. THEY WENT TO PANAMA CITY THIS WEEKEND IN THE SEMIREGIONALS. THEY DIDN'T WIN, BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT. THEY DID GREAT.
WE ARE PROUD OF THEM. I HAD A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY TO GET THEM A CHARTER BUS SO THAT WAS GREAT.
MARCH THIRD, FOOD TRUCK FRIDAY STARTS AGAIN AND WE ARE ALL EXCITED ABOUT THAT. CAN'T WAIT.
THE TIME MAY BE CHANGING SOON AND WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. ROAD IMPROVEMENTS I WAS TOLD TODAY ON 209 FOR THE PUBLIC THEY ARE TRYING TO MOVE UP AND THE ROAD WILL BE QUICKER THAN THE OTHERS BECAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT THAT. ALL OF YOU THAT WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE NO TURNING LANES THERE , OF COURSE IT IS A LITTLE SCARY. I AGREE.
THEY WILL BE STARTING THAT IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE.
AS WELL AS ALL OF THE ROAD PROJECTS.
JUST REMEMBER, WE ARE ALL GOING TO BE GETTING HIT QUICKLY AND THEN ALL AT ONCE. HAVE YOU TO BE PATIENT.
WE WANT THE ROADS, BUT WE HAVE TO WORK TO GET THEM.
JUST BE PATIENT. THE FIRST IS HENLEY ROAD AND SAND RIDGE ROAD AREA CLOSING DOWN FOR THEM TO START ON THAT.
IT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND THEN SUMMER IS WHEN THEY WILL CLOSE THE AREA DOWN FOR THREE MONTHS.
>> THEY WILL TRY TO DO AS MUCH AS THEY CAN IN THE NIGHT, BUT THE BIG MOVE IS STARTING RIGHT AT MEMORIAL DAY AND THEY WILL
CLOSE SAND RIDGE. >> SO YOU HAVE TO GO AROUND.
>> IT WILL BE 209 TO HENLEY. PLAN ACCORDINGLY.
WE WILL POST THAT A LOT OF TIMES.
>> THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WANT TO MAKE MENTION THAT THE NEXT MEETING I AM GOING TO BRING UP A PROPOSAL TO RENAME OR MAYBE NAME, MAYBE RENAME ONE OF OUR PARKS AS POW/MIA PARK.
IT IS OFF MOODYY -- MOODY ROAD. I WANT TO MENTION MARCH 11TH FOR THE VETERANS THAT MAY BE LISTENING.
THE COUNTY IS SPONSORING A VETERANS APPRECIATION DAY AT THE THRASHER HORN CENTER. THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF SERVICES PROVIDED AND A LOT OF INFORMATION PASSED OUT AT THAT EVENT. MARCH 25TH WILL BE THE VIETNAM WAR VETERAN MEMORIAL SERVICE AT HISTORIC TRIANGLE.
I WANT TO MAKE MENTION -- YOU KNOW, I'M A PILOT BY NATURE, BUT IN 1921, MS. BEES -- BESSIE COLEMAN, THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN PILOT TO GET A LICENSE WAS DESIGNATED AS AN AVIATOR IN 1921, BUT YOU TALK ABOUT BREAKING BARRIERS, SHE COULDN'T GET HER TRAINING IN THE UNITED STATES.
SHE HAD TO GO TO FRANCE. SHE GOT HER TRAINING IN FRANCE AND SHE DID A LOT OF FLYING IN THE JACKSONVILLE AREA.
I WANT TO MAKE MENTION TO THAT. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IT WAS 18 YEARS AFTER THE WRIGHT BOYS HAD THEIR FIRST FLIGHT.
IT WASN'T LONG AFTER THE FIRST AIRPLANE FLEW IN THE UNITED STATES AND WE HAD SOMEBODY WITH COURAGE TO GO OUT AND GET HER LICENSE WHICH WAS HARD TO GET. I WANT TO MAKE MENTION OF THAT.
>> COMMISSIONER COMPERE? >> YES.
I ALSO HAVE A SPORTS UPDATE LIKE COMMISSIONER BURKE.
THE OAKLEY IGNITES VARSITY BASKETBALL GAME HAD A RECORD-BREAKING REGULAR SEASON. THEY HAD THE MOST WINS IN A SEASON THIS YEAR. THERE WERE 18 OR 19 CONSECUTIVE WINS. THEY SECURED THE DISTRICT CHAMPIONSHIP AGAINST PONTE IDRE HIGH SCHOOL WHICH WAS A NAIL BITER. IT WAS INTENSE.
I'M PARTIAL BECAUSE MY LITTLE BROTHER, MICHAEL, PLAYS ON THE TEAM. A PLUG IN THERE.
THE REGIONAL GAME, HOWEVER, WILL BE PLAYED HERE IN CLAY COUNTY THIS THURSDAY EVENING AT 7 P.M. AT THE PALACE FOR ANYBODY WHO
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WANTS TO GO OUT AND SUPPORT THEM.IT IS A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT AND THE BOYS HAVE DONE REALLY WELL THIS SEASON. THEY HAVE BEEN FOR MANY YEARS, BUT IT IS REALLY EXCITING TO SEE WHAT THEY WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS YEAR. I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE WHO CAN TO BE THERE. THE ONLY OTHER THING IS HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY TO MY SWEETHEARTS.
>> THEY ARE SISTERS AND GREAT BAKERS.
>> YES. MY LITTLE SISTERS ARE GREAT.
>> AND STILL LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT TRIP THAT YOU TALKED TO
THEM ABOUT. >> SORT OF A SERIOUS SUBJECT.
I HAD A CONSTITUENT IN EAGLE HARBOR THAT WAS EXTREMELY UPSET BY THE ANTICS OF EITHER AN INDIVIDUAL OR A GROUP OF PEOPLE YOU MIGHT RECALL A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
SOMEBODY LEFT ANTI-SEMITIC FLIERS IN THE DRIVEWAYS OF A NUMBER OF HOMES IN CLAY COUNTY AND SPECIFICALLY ORANGE PARK AND FEMING ISLAND. COULD BE OTHER PLACES AS WELL.
OF COURSE, THE WEST SIDE OF DUVALL COUNTY IN JACKSONVILLE.
SHE CALLED ME AND I TOLD HER I WOULD SPEAK OUT ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR INCIDENT HERE ON THE BOARD FLOOR TO LET HER KNOW THAT SORT OF LIKE THE SHERIFF SAID WE ARE NOT GOING TO PUT UP WITH THAT STUFF IN CLAY COUNTY. ALTHOUGH WE CAN'T PREVENT THESE FOLKS TO EXERCISE THEIR RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH, WE CAN CONDEMN THEIR MESSAGE OF HATE. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT I WOULD LIKE PEOPLE TO KNOW IS WE ARE NOT STANDING BEHIND THIS MESS -- THIS MESSAGE. IT IS ONE THING TO HAVE THE FREEDOM OF STPAOEFP AND HAVE AN EXERCISE OF -- FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND HAVE AN EXERCISE OF RIGHTS. AT THAT POINT IN TIME THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING SAID OR DONE. WE DON'T CONDONE THAT IN CLAY COUNTY. IT HAS NO PLACE HERE AND I CERTAINLY STAND UP FOR THAT. SHE IS ACTUALLY WORKING WITH HER INTEL TEAM TO LOOK AND SEE IF THEY CAN IDENTIFY EITHER INDIVIDUALS OR A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS AND LOCATIONS AS TO WHERE THOSE LOCATIONS MAY BE HEADQUARTERED.
THERE IS ALSO A BILL BEING CONSIDERED THIS TALLAHASSEE THAT WOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IF THEY LEAVE HATE MESSAGES ON YOUR OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY.
WE WILL SEE HOW THAT PROGRESSES. CERTAINLY NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. THEY ARE NOT SURE WHETHER IT IS A GROUP OR AN INDIVIDUAL AND THEY THINK THERE COULD BE ONE OF THESE FOLKS LIVING RIGHT HERE IN CLAY COUNTY.
WE'LL HAVE TO SEE AS THINGS DEVELOP AND I'LL KEEP YOU POSTED ON THAT. FOOD TRUCK NIGHT, ON A LIGHTER NOTE, COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE IS HOLDING ONE ON FEBRUARY 24TH. IT IS FRIDAY NIGHT AND ST.
JOHN'S RIVER. THEY WILL HAVE A DJ AND GAMES AND VENDORS AND ALSO NONPROFIT GROUPS AND BUSINESSES DISPLAYED THERE. WE INVITE YOU ALL OUT.
IT WAS GROWING QUITE A BIT BEFORE WE SHUT IT DOWN BECAUSE OF THE WINTER MONTHS THAT WILL GET STARTED AT 6:00.
AND I DON'T HAVE ANY REAL SUCCESS STORIES, BUT WE DO WISH THE GREEN AND GOLD OF FLEMING ISLAND HIGH SCHOOL AND ALL OF THEIR ATHLETIC TEAMS SUCCESS. THEY ARE ALL MOVING INTO THE SPRING SEASON BECAUSE I THINK THEY WERE ALL KNOCKED OUT OF THE
WINTER SEASON. >> I THINK THE GIRLS WON.
>> ALL RIGHT. WE ARE CELEBRATING THE WOMEN'S BASKETBALL THERE ON FLEMING ISLAND.
THANK YOU. >> I HAVE ONE MORE THING.
>> GO AHEAD. >> I JUST SAW, SOMEONE WAS SAYING SO MUCH FOR THE PANHANDLING LAW.
TODAY I SAW AT 220 AND 17 THERE WERE PEOPLE WITH BACKPACKS.
THEY WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MEDIAN AND PEOPLE WITH THEIR WINDOWS DOWN AND TALKING TO PEOPLE.
I CONTACT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IMMEDIATELY AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT I CAME BACK THROUGH THERE LIKE 30 MINUTES LATER AND THEY WERE GONE. THEY DID SEND SOMEBODY THERE.
IF YOU SEE SOMEBODY, DON'T ROLL DOWN YOUR WINDOW, FIRST OFF.
IGNORE THEM. LET THEM STARE AT YOU.
I KNOW IT IS WEIRD, JUST DO IT. CALL THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF IT. IT IS LAW NOW AND WE DON'T HAVE
TO PUT UP WITH IT. >> IT IS TRUE.
I GET CALLS FROM SEVERAL PEOPLE AND I CALL THE SHERIFF AND THEY DISPATCH SOMEBODY TO TALK TO THEM AND LET THEM KNOW HOW UNSAFE IT IS FOR THEM TO STAND ON THE STREET.
>> THEY WERE IN THE MIDDLE THERE BEWEEN CARS.
>> I THINK JACKSONVILLE CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT IS VOTING ON A SIMILAR ORDINANCE, BUT IT ENDS -- IT ENTAILS FINES FOR THOSE WHO GIVE MONEY AS WELL. THEY EXPECT IT TO PASS.
WE'LL SEE. >> THEIRS HAS A PERMIT EXEMPTION, I THINK. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF
IT HOLDS UP IN COURT. >> ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY?
>> COMMISSIONER BURKE AND I BOTH ATTENDED THE TPO BOARD MEETING
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LAST WEEK. I JUSTER -- I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY IF YOU TUNED INTO OUR ONLINE EVENTS AND YOU DIDN'T SEE ME OR YOU WENT TO SOMETHING IN PERSON AND YOU DIDN'T SEE ME, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS STEPPING UP.I BATTLED COVID FOR 9 DAYS. I WAS DOWN FOR THE COUNT, BUT I DID NOT LEAVE HOME. I KNOW I STILL SOUND BAD, BUT I DID NOT LEAVE HOME WHILE I STILL HAD A FEVER UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, DIRECTOR HEATHER HUFFMAN.
I APPRECIATE THOSE OF YOU WHO HAD TO STEP IN FOR ME.
I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. HOPEFULLY, IF YOU'RE SICK, STAY HOME. I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE I GOT IT.
I GOT IT AT CHURCH. IF YOU'RE SICK, STAY HOME.
OTHERWISE TAKE CARE OF YOURSELVES.
LAST THURSDAY, ON MY FIRST MEETING OUT AFTER BEING AT HOME, I WAS THE -- I WENT TO THE TPO BOARD MEETING.
IT WASN'T COMMISSIONER BURKE'S FIRST TIME, BUT IT WAS MINE.
AND SO I ATTENDED THE BOARD MEETING AND I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS. AFTER AFTER I TOOK A TOUR I FOLLOWED UP WITH TPO STAFF. I LEARNED QUITE A BIT AND I WILL SHARE IT. YOU MAY KNOW IT, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW. WE HAVE DONE OUR TPO LIST, THE THRAO*ETS -- THREE OF US THE LAST TWO YEARS AND YOU DID YOUR FIRST ONE THIS YEAR. WE HAVE HAD 15 PROJECTS AND LAST YEAR I THINK WE HAD I THINK 13 PROJECTS ON OUR TPO LIST.
WE SUBMIT THAT LIST TO THE TPO BOARD.
THEY COME UP EVERY FIVE YEARS WITH A LIST 20.
THEY ONLY HAVE 20 ON THEIR LIST. IF IT IS NOT ON OUR LIST, IT CAN'T GET ON THEIR LIST. THEY BREAK UP HOW MANY WE GET ON THEIR LIST BASED ON POPULATION. THE TPO SEARCHED FOUR COUNTIES.
IT IS DUVALL, NASSAU, ST. JOHN'S AND CLAY.
AND WE GET FIVE OF THE 20 ROADS. AND SO WHAT WE HAD SUBMITTED, WHAT WE VOTED ON I THINK LAST MEETING AND WE SUB KNITTED -- SUBMITTED WAS COUNTY ROAD 220 FROM LANDING BOULEVARD TO HENLEY ROAD WIDENING TO FOUR LANES, STATE ROAD 16 FROM THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY INTERCHANGE TO THE CITY LIMITS OF GREEN COVE SPRINGS, WIDENING TO FOUR LANES. U.S. 17 FROM TOWN CENTER BOULEVARD TO COUNTY ROAD 315, WIDENING TO SIX LANES, STATE ROAD 21BLANDING BOULEVARD FROM COUNTY ROAD 220 TO COLLINS ROAD INITTER SECTION IMPROVEMENT -- INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT AND THAT IS CONSIDERED A HIGH CRASH CORRIDOR.
AND THE FIFTH WE SUBMITTED WAS FEED MILL ROAD.
WHEN I TALKED TO TPO STAFF AND DOT STAFF WAS BASICALLY TOLD WE HAVE NO CHANCE OF IT BEING PICKED UP.
SO I ASKED FOR THE LIST TO BE BROUGHT BACK TONIGHT AND WE CAN DELAY IT UNTIL NEXT MEETING IF YOU WANT TO.
COMMISSIONER BURKE AND I, I THINK HE SAID MORE AT THE TPO MEETING. THEY DON'T CARE WHAT THE FIVE ROADS ARE. WE JUST GET TPAO*EUFP ROADS ON -- FIVE ROADS ON THERE. IF WE LEAD FEED MILL ON THERE THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO IT. THE REASON HE SAID WHAT HE SAID WAS IF FEDERAL MONEY TOUCHES A ROAD IT BECOMES OTHERWISE WHICH RICHARD CAN EXPLAIN MORE OF. IT IS BASICALLY -- IT QUADRUPLES EVERYTHING TOUCHING THE ROAD GOING FORWARD.
AND ALL WE WERE ASKING FOR WITH FEED MILL WAS THE DESIGN OF IT.
HE SAID WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO FEDERALIZE YOUR ROAD AT THIS POINT. AND THEY GOOGLE MAPPED IT.
HE SAID THEY HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THIS ROAD BEFORE.
THEY GOOGLED IT. THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
IT IS THE TP*EURBS TIME THEY HAVE SEEN IT ON THE LIST.
ONE OF THE ROADS ON OUR LIST BEFORE THAT HAD SAFETY ISSUE AND IT HAS BEEN FEDERALIZED BECAUSE OF THE PAST MONEY USED AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR OTHER FOUR ROADS, THEY ALL INVOLVE A STATE ROAD WITH SOMETHING FROM THE COUNTY.
EVEN 220 GOES FROM BLANDING TO HENRY -- HENLEY.
SO THE ONE ROAD I WAS LOOKING TO POSSIBLY MOVE UP INTO THE PLACE OF FEED MILL WAS JUST BELOW IT WAS COUNTY ROAD 217.
COUNTY ROAD 217 GOES FROM STATE ROAD 238, I THINK IS THE NUMBER,
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228 IN DUVALL COUNTY AND CONNECTS TO COUNTY ROAD 218 RIGHT AT 301. IT IS A TRUCK DETOUR THE H.THE -- DETOUR. THE BRIDGE ON THERE IS NOT RATED FOR TRUCKS. THE ROADS THAT WE PUT ON THE LIST ARE THE ROADS WE PUT ON THE LIST.
I JUST WANTED US TO, IN FULL DISCLOSURE, IF WE GET FIVE ROADS WE SHOULD GET FIVE ROADS. ANYWAY, IT'S ON -- YOU HAVE A BACK UP FROM ED IF WE WANT TO DELAY IT AND MAYBE TALK ABOUT IT NEXT COMMISSION MEETING. I'M FINE WITH THAT.
IF WE WANT TO LEAVE WHAT WE VOTED LAST MEETING, I'M FINE WITH THAT TOO. I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT BACK
>> ON THE 28 AGENDA? >> I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE AND WE WOULD BE FOOLISH IF WE ALREADY HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND THAT ADVANCED INFO THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CONSIDER THAT THEN WE ARE WASTING A POSITION ON THAT.
DEFINITELY 217 WOULD BE A STRONG CANDIDATE.
>> AND YOU ARE WELCOME, IF THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE ON THERE THAT YOU WANT TO -- AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT AND THAT CONCERNS ME THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN THAT IF YOU DIDN'T ASK.
GOOD THING FOR DOING THAT. I GUESS WE HAVE TO ASK EACH YEAR
AND REALLY I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
AND I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, WE COME UP WITH -- I STILL THINK WE SHOULD COME UP WITH THE 15 -- WE NEED TO PUT OUR ROADS ON AND IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THEM AND THE ORDER.
HE SAID THAT WE ARE THE ONLY COUNTY WHO HAS HAD COUNTY ROADS DONE BY THE PARTNERSHIP OF THE TPO AND THE D.O.T.
MOST OTHER COUNTIES HAVE NOT HAD THE PAST HISTORY.
I WAS LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE. WE HAD OTHER COUNTY ROADS DONE
BY YOU ALL. >> I GUESS WE HAD 17.
>> I AND THEY REALLY WANTED -- THEY ARE PUSHING HARD FOR -- THE D.O.T.IS PUSHING HARD FOR 17. IT INVOLVES BRIDGE WEIGHEDDEN --
BRIDGE WIDENING. >> MAYBE WE CAN GET RICHARD INVOLVED IN THAT. MAYBE HE CAN COME UP WITH HIS RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL TO BE AT THE NEXT MEETING AND WE CAN HASH THAT OUT FROM THERE. RICHARD IS THAT FAIR?
>> GREAT. YOU GOT THAT FOR THE NEXT --
>> YES, MA'AM. >> AND I WILL WAIVE MY TPO AGENDA BOOK -- I WILL LEAVE IT ON THE TABLE IN MY OFFICE IF ANYONE WANTS TO PICK IT UP AND READ IT.
SORRY FOR THE COFFEE SPILL ON THE FRONT.
IT IS COFFEE. ANYTHING ELSE? SEEING NONE. MEETING ADJOURNED.
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