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>> THIS MEETING WILL COME TO ORDER.
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO WELCOME OUR NEWEST MEMBER, IN MY OPINION, GABRIELLA FRANCO WE ARE PLEASED TO SEE YOU.
WE HOPE YOU WILL LIVE LONG AND PROSPER ON THE SPORT.
ACCORDING TO THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA WE BEGIN WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT. NO?
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>> FIRST AGENDA. >> I'M SORRY APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. OKAY, HAS EVERYBODY REVIEWED THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING? I MYSELF WAS NOT ABLE TO BECAUSE MY COMPUTER HAD BEEN DOWN FOR THE BETTER PART OF THIS WEEK BUT I HOPE OTHER MEMBERS HAVE REVIEWED IT.
HAVE YOU? I READ IT AT ONE POINT I DID NOT.
INOT. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES, CORRECTIONS, A MOMENT'S, ADDITIONS?
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY. >> ALL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO
APPROVE THE MINUTES. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
>> SECOND. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON
>> OKAY THEN I'LL ASK FOR A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR OF ADOPTING THEM AS THEY STAND, SAY AYE CAN ANY OPPOSED?
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THEN THOSE MINUTES ARE ADOPTED. NOW WE CAN ENTERTAIN A PUBLIC COMMENT AND HAVE AT LEAST ONE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC HERE.WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF SIR?
NO? >> MY NAME IS WILLIAM CLINTON.
>> AND YOU STATE YOUR NAME SIR. >> HE DID.
SO MUFFLED. >> RAISED THE MIC UP.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? >> YES, SIR.
>> I DON'T WANT TO EAT IT. IT STARTED, WE PURCHASED SOME PROPERTY ON DECOY ROAD, 16 YEARS AGO.
MY WIFE ACTUALLY PURCHASED ME A METAL DETECTOR FOR ME AND MY GRANDSON. AND OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEARS GOING OUT PLAYING WITH IT AND DIGGING UP STUFF AND FINDING STUFF WE FOUND STUFF THAT BASICALLY DATES BACK TO 7000 BC.
ARROWHEADS, WE GOT POTTERY, WE GOT SANDSTONE TOOLS, SANDSTONE AXES. WE ACTUALLY HAVE GLASS, I'M FAIRLY SURPRISED BECAUSE ALL THE GLASS WE FOUND WITHOUT THE HALL WAS EMPTY AND WE ACTUALLY PICKED UP LEAD GLASS, WE WERE SHOCKED ABOUT THAT. I DEALT WITH VICIOUS, THE HISTORICAL PROPERTY AND SHE LOOKED AT THE STUFF I TOOK TO HER AND SHE HAD CONTACTED FLAGLER COLLEGE AND THEY SENT A TEAM OUT AND THEY DUG IN THEY FOUND ALL SORTS OF INTERESTING STUFF, AXES, METAL, POTTERY. OVER THE 16 YEARS THAT WE'VE LIVED THERE I PULLED UP ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT ITEMS. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS. I'M KIND OF AFRAID TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE THE PEOPLE DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT. THIS IS A PART OF OUR HISTORY.
AND I GET UPSET OVER THAT BECAUSE NOBODY CARES.
WE ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE THE PEOPLE BACK THEN THAT MADE US WHAT WE ARE TODAY. I'M ASKING FOR SOME HELP, BEING
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ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THESE PIECES WHICH BETH HAS HELP ME WITH TODAY AS FAR AS ME CONTACTING THE PEOPLE THAT CAN HELP ME. BUT RIGHT WAY DECOY IN 209 COME TOGETHER, THE USED TO BE A TRADING POST WHERE THEY ACTUALLY, IN THE AREA WITH A LOT OF TURPENTINE.AND THEY WOULD TAKE THAT TURPENTINE AND MAKE GUNPOWDER WITH IT. NEVER HEARD OF SUCH A THING.
THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD. SURE ENOUGH, THE RESEARCH I DID% THAT'S WHAT THEY DID, THEY MADE GUNPOWDER AND TREATED WITH THE NORTH. SPINNAKERS A LOT I DO NOT UNDERSTAND. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS DEBUNKING OTHER THINGS I'M COMPUTER A ILLITERATE, THANK GOD FOR MY DAUGHTER. I'M OLD-FASHIONED.
I DON'T DO THAT KIND OF STUFF. BUT I WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT WE'RE FINDING. IN 2 MILES BOTH DIRECTION THERE'S SO MUCH ACTIVITY MY NEIGHBORS HAVE GIVEN ME PERMISSION TO DIG ON THEIR PROPERTY, SOME HAVEN'T SOME DON'T WANT TO TIP THE GRASS BUT I'M FINDING A LOT OF THE SAME STUFF. THEY ORIGINALLY TOLD ME IT WAS CLAY COUNTY'S ORIGINAL DUMPSITE. THE MORE DIGGING I DID I DON'T FIND THAT TO BE TRUE, I FIND IT TO BEING CAMPSITES BECAUSE I HAVE TO GET ON 4 FEET. WHEN I HIT 4 FEET THE WATER COMES IN FAST AND THEY CAN'T GO ANY FURTHER.
THEY TOLD ME 4 FEET JUST ABOUT RIGHT.
SO I STARTED DOCUMENTING THE THINGS THAT I PULLED OUT OF THE GROUND, FORKS, KNIVES, SOME OF IT DETERIORATED.
THE BIG THING WHEN I PULL METAL OUT OF THE GROUND IT DISINTEGRATES VERY, VERY VERY QUICKLY.
I WAS TOLD TO USE POLYURETHANE AND PUT A COAT ON IT BUT THAT DIDN'T WORK, IT WAS WATER-BASED. SO I ENDED UP USING OIL-BASED WHICH HELPS BUT I PUT THREE OR FOUR COATS ON.
THEN I FOUND A PISTOL. I WENT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ASK THEM IF I NEEDED TO TURN THAT IN.
IT MAY BE A CRIME WAS COMMITTED OR WHATEVER AND THEY SAID NO IT WAS TOO OLD AND TOO RUSTIC AND IT WAS ACTUALLY CORRODED, SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE HALF INCH TO AN INCH THICK, THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE GROUND SO LONG COPPER, METAL, POT METAL, THERE IS A LOT ABOUT ACTIVITY AND JUST A MILD HALF OR 2 MILES IN EACH DIRECTION WITH THE DIGS THAT I'VE DONE AT THE RAILROAD THAT CAME THROUGH THEIR, THE ACTUALLY TOOK THE TRAIN AND THEY BUILD A DOCK AND IT WENT OUT IN THE WATER.
THE STEAMBOATS TO COME IN. THESE STEAMBOATS, ONE'S -- I'M SORRY. THE BIG PADDLES ON THE SIDE OF THEM, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TYPE THEY ARE BUT THE ACTIVITY IS A LOT AND I THINK THAT SOMETHING CLAY COUNTY SHOULD INVESTIGATE. I DON'T HOW I CAN HELP.
I'M TOTALLY SHOCKED THAT I ACTUALLY GOT INVOLVED OF THIS.
THIS IS THE LAST THING I WANTED TO GET INVOLVED IN.
BUT IT'S THE FACT THAT PEOPLE HAD THEIR HANDS ON IT.
PEOPLE TOLD ME HARSH THINGS THEY WERE BACK THEN.
THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE. >> I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE
>> MR. CLAYTON, DO YOU REMEMBER THE NAMES OF ANY OF THE
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ARCHAEOLOGIST THAT CAME OUT TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS.>> I HAVE THEIR CARDS I HAVE ONE CARD HE ACTUALLY IS A HISTORY TEACHER AT CLAY HIGH. HE IS AN ARCHAEOLOGIST AND MS. TARA GREEN. THE OTHER ONES I DO NOT HAVE.
I GOT PICTURES OF THEM BECAUSE ACTUALLY TOOK PICTURES OF THEM WHEN THEY WERE DIGGING AND I GOT A GROUP OF THEM TOGETHER.
>> TODAY TAKE AWAY ANY ARTIFACTS FOR EXAMINATION?
>> NO THEY DIDN'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
THEY DID NOT. THEY JUST ASKED ME IF I WANTED TO BE A HOST ORACLE PIECE OF PROPERTY AND I SAID SURE WHY NOT AND THEY TOLD ME I COULDN'T PUT A RODENT OR THE STATE CAN PUT A
RODENT. >> TODAY GIVE YOU ANY INFORMATION ABOUT SOME OF THE ARTIFACTS THAT YOU HAD
PREVIOUSLY FOUND? >> I SHOW THEM EVERYTHING THAT I GOT AT THAT POINT. I'VE GOT TOTES FULL OF STUFF BECAUSE I DIDN'T EXPECT TO SELL THE HOUSE SO QUICKLY.
THE PROPERTY HAS STILL GOT STUFF ON IT.
YOU CAN FIND THINGS OUT AFOOT, YOU CAN FIND THINGS UP FOR FEET.
ANYWHERE IN BETWEEN THERE AND THEY WERE BURN PILES.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DID WITH THE GARBAGE BACK THEN BUT THERE WOULD BE BURN PILES AFOOT DOWN AND YOU HAVE DIFFERENT COLORED LAYERS OF CLAY OR DIRT THAT YOU GO DOWN TO FEENEY FIND ANOTHER BURN PILE AND SOME OF IT IS A THIN LAYER AND SOME ARE REALLY, REALLY THICK. IT'S ALMOST LIKE A WHOLE, ABOUT THE SIZE OF THIS. HOLES WHERE THEY BURNED.
>> I GUESS I WAS WONDERING TO THE BOARD, I KNOW A PROFESSOR AT YOU ENOUGH DOCTOR DENISE BULL SEE SHE IS THE INDIGENOUS SCHOLAR OF THE AREA. I THINK SHE USED TO GO TO HARVARD BUT SHE'S REALLY KNOWLEDGEABLE.
I WONDER IF YOU ALL WOULD WANT ME TO REACH OUT TO HER, I DON'T
KNOW IF IT BE USEFUL OR NOT. >> I JUST STARTED ON 16 ACRES RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME. SHE'S GIVEN ME PERMISSION TO DIG ON HER SITE. I HAVE AN AFFIDAVIT THAT SHE SIGNS AND I SIGN TO MAKE SURE I DON'T GET MYSELF IN TROUBLE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S LEGAL AND WHAT'S NOT LEGAL.
BUT I GAVE IT TO THE HOMEOWNERS AND SHOW THEM WHAT THEY GET AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T HAVE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, I HAVE FIRST OPTION PURCHASE IT FROM THEM.
>> MR. CLAYTON, GABRIELA HERE, SHE SAID SHE COULD REACH OUT TO A SCHOLAR AND MAYBE THEY COULD GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU AND THAT
>> WE HAVE YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION FROM BETH.
MAYBE YOUR PHONE NUMBER OR E-MAIL.
>> I DON'T HAVE E-MAIL. >> A PHONE NUMBER THAT WE CAN
>> EXCELLENT, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
>> SIR I HAVE A QUESTION OR TWO FOR YOU.
IS THERE ANY ELEVATED LAND MOUNTS ON THE PROPERTY THAT
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? >> NOT MY PERSONAL PROPERTY BUT ON THE OTHER PROPERTIES THERE ARE MOUNDS BUT THEY'RE NOT REAL BIG THEY ARE OUT OF SORTS SHOULDN'T REALLY BE THERE.
>> THERE USED TO BE, THE INDIANS HAVE THIS AREA THAT WOULD BUILD MOUNDS IN THEIR LIVING STRUCTURE WOULD BE ON TOP OF THE MOUND IN THE BACKSIDE OF IT WOULD BE WHERE THEY WOULD TOSS ALL OF THEIR WASTE AND TRASH AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS THERE ANY LONELY PINE
TREES CLOSE TO YOUR PROPERTY? >> NO THERE IS NONE.
THEY GREW THEM AND I HAD FIVE TREES ON 11 ACRES.
BUT WITH THE 11 ACRES WHEN WE ORIGINALLY PURCHASED IT I SPLIT
>> OKAY, I'M SORRY. I SPLIT THE 11 ACRES AND WE
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BUILT A HOUSE ON THE FIVE AND A HALF ACRES.MY DAUGHTER AND HER HUSBAND. AND THE ONLY THING THAT I THOUGHT WAS A HISTORICAL SITE I THINK MY FIVE AND HALF, BUT THEN I UNDERSTAND I HAVE TO GO BEFORE BOARD AND HAVE IT DONE AS A HISTORICAL. WE JUST SIGNED A BUNCH OF PAPERS FOR FLAGLER COLLEGE. I THOUGHT IT WAS ALREADY HISTORICAL BUT EVIDENTLY IT IS NOT.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GONE THROUGH PHASES, HISTORICAL PHASES. DURING ONE OF THE LATTER PHASES THERE IS A TURPENTINE CAMP BECAUSE THERE USED TO BE HUNDREDS OF TURPENTINE CAMPS IN THIS AREA.
AND THERE ARE LONELY PINE TREES AND THEY USUALLY STOP THEM FOR SIX YEARS AND CHOP THEM DOWN AND CUT THEM UP INTO OLD-GROWTH
PINE. >> YES, SIR, THAT IS CORRECT.
AND I HAVE FOUND THE CLAY POTS. >> THEY ALSO USED GLASS JARS.
GLASS YATES HALL THE HAVE A LITTLE HOOK ON THEM WHERE YOU PUT YOUR FINGER FULL OF TURPENTINE.
I SAID REALLY. >> THEY ALSO USED 10 CONTAINERS AS WELL. IT PROBABLY WAS A TURPENTINE CAMP AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER BUT BEFORE THAT WHO KNOWS.
THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN >> THEY ALSO USED 10 CONTAINERS INDIGENOUS PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE AND EVERYTHING.
>> I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP ANY MORE OF YOUR TIME UNLESS YOU
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> I THINK I'VE SAID ENOUGH.
>> WILL FIND OUT IF THERE WAS A REWARD FILE BY THE PEOPLE WHO
CAME AND HAD A LOOK. >> ALSO WHAT IS HE WANTING US TO DO? AT THE GETTY TO FIND OUT WHAT'S
THERE FIRST. >> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS,
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PEOPLE. BUSINESS IS THE NEXT SUBJECT, IS THEORETICALLY EMPTY, I KNOW HOWEVER, THERE HAS BEEN BUSINESS UNDERWAY THAT WAS SUSPENDED FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS BECAUSE OF THE WINTER HOLIDAYS AND SO FORTH.IS THERE ANY FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION MARKERS AND SO FORTH THAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED OR SHOULD BE UPDATED?
>> THE BLUE ANGELS THAT I'M WORKING ON, BLUE ANGELS MARKER.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THERE WILL BE TWO MARKERS SO I NEED TO FIND OUT, I TOOK OVER THIS PROJECT FROM FELICIA I BELIEVE, SINCE THEN I HAVE REACHED OUT TO GARRETT AND MARY AND THEY'VE GIVEN ME SOME INFORMATION. AND I HAVE WEBSITES AND EVERYTHING I CAN GO TO, THE NEXT PHASE BASICALLY IS WHEN WE MEET NEXT MONTH. I WANT TO HAVE A DRAFT, A FIRST DRAFT OF WHAT I THINK SHOULD BE COPIES FOR EVERYONE SO YOU CAN READ THEM AND WE CAN MASSAGE ALL OF THAT AND MAKE SEVERAL DRAFTS BEFORE WE GET THAT FINISHED. I JUST WANT THAT TO BE PUT ON FOR OLD BUSINESS AGAIN SO WE CAN KEEP THAT IN THE FOREFRONT.
>> WILL THOSE BE DOUBLE SIDED STATE MARKERS?
>> I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT TO SAY ABOUT THE ANGELS FROM WHAT I'VE READ SO FAR.
>> OKAY. >> TWO SIGNS WILL OF COURSE
INCREASE THE COST HOWEVER,. >> IT MAY DEPEND ON WHAT YOUR TEXT IS AS WELL MARY JUSTINE ARE WORKING ON MORE OF AN EDUCATIONAL DISPLAY. IT WILL BE UNDER A KIOSK.
IT'LL BE MORE SUBSTANTIAL AT LEAST DID NOT DISPLAY LEG NUMBER PATTERNS VERSUS THIS WHICH WOULD JUST BE TAXED.
BETWEEN THE TWO HOPEFULLY WE CAN COURTNEY GET THE MESSAGE OUT.
>> DOES THAT COME OUT OF OUR BUDGET WHAT THEY ARE DOING?
>> THEY ARE APPLYING FOR A GRANT FOR THE KIOSK IN THE EDUCATIONAL
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BOARD. THIS ONE IS SEPARATE.>> OKAY, VERY GOOD. I BELIEVE ALSO RANDY HAD BEEN ALREADY INVESTIGATING THINGS LIKE STAFF AND ARM AS A
CANDIDATE. >> THE GUSTAFSON RESIDENCE.
>> I'M SORRY. >> THE GUSTAFSON RESIDENCE.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO. THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN MAINTAINING THE HISTORIC INTEGRITY OF THE GUSTAFSON RESIDENCE.
I'VE BEEN INSIDE OF IT AND I'VE TAKEN ALL KINDS OF PICTURES AND I PUT THEM IN THE HISTORIC FACEBOOK GROUP AND EVERYTHING ELSE FOR PEOPLE TO SEE. WHAT PEOPLE WILL SEE IT NEEDS AN EXTENSIVE CLEANUP. AND WHAT I WAS GOING TO PROPOSE TO THE BOARD AND SOLICIT FROM THE PRESERVATION BOARD WAS POSSIBLY SOME OF $500 TO PURCHASE A VACUUM CLEANER AND CLEANING SUPPLIES TO KEEP AT THE GUSTAVSON RESIDENCE SO ANYTIME A GROUP OF OVER 50 VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE VOLUNTEERED TO HELP CLEAN UP THAT PLACE, WORKING ORGANIZE GROUPS AND MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE IN THERE AT A TIME OR ANYTHING ELSE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SOLICIT FROM THE BOARD POSSIBLY $500 SO WE CAN GET SOME PERMANENT CLEANING SUPPLIES, VACUUM CLEANER, BROOMS, DUST FANS, BRUSHES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
>> IS NOT CURRENTLY A PRIVATE RESIDENCE?
>> YES. >> HOW DOES THAT PLAY IN TO US BEING ABLE TO GIVE A PRIVATE RESIDENT.
PERSONALLY I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE EVERYTHING THERE ANYTIME YOU VOLUNTEERS.
ON THE FLIPSIDE THIS IS A COUNTY BOARD WHERE WE HAVE FUNDS, CAN IT BE GIVEN TO A FAMILY BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT WOULD LOOK BECAUSE IT'S A PRIVATE RESIDENCE AND NOT A PUBLIC ENTITY?
>> I SEE YOUR POINT AND THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WILL HAVE TO BE RESEARCHED FURTHER BECAUSE I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE.
I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE LADY NAMED NUMBER GUSTAFSON WHO IS THE CURRENT OWNER AND SHE IS ALSO SELLING THE PROPERTY INCLUDING THE RESIDENCE AND SHE STATED SHE WILL NOT SELL THE PROPERTY TO ANYONE THAT PLANS ON MOVING THE RESIDENCE.
>> UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS NOT HOW THAT WORKS.
IF SHE SELLS IS NO LONGER PROPERTY AND THE NEW OWNER CAN DO BASICALLY WHAT THEY WANT WITH IT UNLESS IT IS ALREADY DESIGNATED AS A HISTORICAL. I COULD BE WRONG AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK BETH. ONE, WHO WOULD WE TALK TO TO FIND OUT IF WE COULD PURCHASE A VACUUM CLEANER FOR A PRIVATE RESIDENCE TO HELP THEM CLEAN UP THEIR PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SELL. IT'S NOT SOUNDING RIGHT TO ME.
>> I CAN CHECK WITH PURCHASING ALL PURCHASES HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR APPROVAL, WHEN YOU ARE DOING A MARKER THAT HAS INFORMALLY AT THE TIME TO GO FORWARD WITH THE APPLICATION THAT IS SUPPOSED TO GO TO THE BOARD TO GET THEIR APPROVAL FOR THE EXPENDITURE.
RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE COMMITTED TO DOING TWO MARKERS, THE COST OF A SINGLE-SIDED MARKER IS 24 - 20, 2400 SOMETHING IN 27 IF YOU'RE TO DO A TWO-SIDED MARKER. I BELIEVE THAT'S A NUMBER.
YOU WILL GET 5000 YEAR, THAT IS PRETTY MUCH IN YOUR BUDGET.
>> THE OBVIOUSLY REQUIRES MORE RESEARCH AND THAT COULD BE PUT ON HOLD UNTIL SUCH A TIME THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT IT IS AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED WITH THAT.
THE PEOPLE INTERESTED IN BUYING IT IS ACTUALLY DARREN THAT OWNS THE AUTO PLACE RIGHT NEXT DOOR. AND HE OWNS THE CARRIAGE HOUSE.
HIM AND HIS WIFE ARE BOTH REALLY INTO HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE. HER POINT IS WELL TAKEN.
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BUT WERE PUTTING MONEY INTO SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T BELONG TO A SPREAD WE CAN DO FURTHER RESEARCH ON AND DETERMINE LATER EXACTLY HOW WE WANT TO PROCEED WITH THAT.>> I'VE SEEN THE REASON WHY YOU COULDN'T GO FORWARD ON THE IDEA OF PUTTING UP A MARKER THE CURRENT OWNER BEING WILLING BECAUSE IT IS A HISTORIC FEATURE OF THE TOWN.
>> RIGHT? >> I DON'T OTHER ANY CHECKS THAT
HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED YET. >> NO, NOT AT THIS TIME, OTHER THAN WHAT 30 ON THE SIGNS THAT ARE UP THERE BY THE HOUSE AND
EVERYTHING. >> WE HAVE A PROCESS FOR NEW MARKER APPLICATIONS? IF ANYONE WERE INTERESTED IN PRESENTING A REQUEST TO THE BOARD TO CONSIDER FOR A HISTORIC MARKER THEY CAN REACH OUT TO US AND GIVE US AN APPLICATION AND I WOULD BRING IT TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION.
>> I WOULD HATE TO SEE IT GO AWAY IT'S AN ICONIC AND AS PART OF THE HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE OF WALNUT STREET.
THERE IS NOTHING ON WALNUT STREET EXCEPT FOR OLD HISTORIC
HOUSES BASICALLY. >> MAYBE, BRANDY IF YOU TALK TO DARREN, SEE IF THAT IS THEIR INTENT AND IF THERE PURCHASING IT MAY BE MENTIONED TO HIM THAT HE COULD APPLY AND COMPLETE THE PAPERWORK FOR THE HISTORIC MARKER KNOWING HIS WIFE, I DON'T KNOW HIM BUT I KNOW HIS WIFE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN.
KNOWING THAT WE CAN SUPPORT THAT FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET IF THEY KNEW THAT PRETTY FEE TALK TO THEM MAYBE THAT'S THE WAY THEY WOULD BE MORE INTERESTED THAN THEY MIGHT BE ALREADY.
>> I WILL BRING IT UP TO THEM AND SEE WHAT THEIR RESPONSE IS.
>> THAT BRINGS ME TO ANOTHER POINT.
FELICIA WAS STARTING TO WORK ON A FLOWCHART IF YOU WILL OF HOW WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THAT WAS KIND OF HALTED.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT WE COULD REACH OUT TO THAT COULD GIVE US INFORMATION WITH REGARDS TO THE APPLICATION PROCESS, WHAT HAPPENS FIRST, SECOND, THIRD, DO WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN
THERE CURRENTLY? >> I BELIEVE THE BOARD APPROVED THE PROCESS THAT SHE PRESENTED. I GUESS I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING A
QUESTION ABOUT THAT. >> I DON'T REMEMBER THAT WE
APPROVED IT. >> IT WAS A WHILE BACK.
>> IT WAS A WHILE BACK. AN APPLICANT WILL FILL OUT THE APPLICATION AND THEY WILL PROVIDE -- BACKER MATERIAL.
>> ALL GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT. >> THAT WAS APPROVED AND BASICALLY WHAT SHE WRITTEN WAS CORRECT?
>> IT MIGHT BE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT BUT WE NEVER FORMED A COMMITTEE IN ORDER TO TRY TO DRAFT SOME HISTORIC PRESERVATION GUIDELINE FOR THE COUNTY WHICH DON'T REALLY EXIST AS FAR AS I KNOW YOU FOR SOME OF THE COUNTIES HAVE SOME THINGS IN PLACE TO PROTECT THEM. DUVALL COUNTY FOR EXAMPLE.
I BELIEVE ORANGE PARK TOWN WAS WORKING ON THEIR OWN SET OF GUIDELINES AND STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION INCLUDING DESIGNATED ZONE I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY CONCLUDED THAT OR NOT. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT CERTAINLY WE OUT OF TRY TO LOOK INTO SOONER THAN LATER.
GIVEN ALL THE CHANGES IN DEVELOPMENT AS A CALL GOING ON AROUND US. ANYTHING CLASSIFIABLE AS OLD BUSINESS THAT ANY MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO MENTION?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO BRING SOMETHING OUT.
I THINK I WAS ASSIGNED TAKEN OVER THE PROJECT FOR THE ONE STATE MARKER. I THINK CHRIS STUBBS INITIALLY HAD IT. WHAT WAS THAT?
>> OKAY DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE HE WAS AT IN THE PROCESS, WAS THERE ANY VERBIAGE WRITTEN UP YET OR ANYTHING ELSE.
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>> JOSH ALLEN WAS THE ORIGINAL MEMBER THAT WAS GOING TO WORK ON THAT WE RECEIVED NOTHING FROM HIM NOTHING FROM CHRIS STUBBS.
I DID RECEIVE AN E-MAIL WITH CONTACT INFORMATION AND AN ADDRESS THAT I GUESS WHAT WAS CONSIDERED FOR A LOCATION FOR THE MARKER. YOU SHOULD HAVE A IMO.
I JUST SENT IT SO YOU DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE IT.
>> THE WORD I'VE GOTTEN. I SPOKEN WITH THE FAMILY MEMBERS AND THE GRANDDAUGHTER I BELIEVE STILL LIVES OUT ON THE PROPERTY AT WOODPECKER PARADISE. IN THE INDICATED THEY APPROVE OF HISTORIC MARKER BUT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT AT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY OF THE CORNER OF THE DRIVE GOING IN AND EVERYTHING ALSO PEOPLE CAN SEE IT FROM THE ROAD SO THAT WAS THAT. I GUESS I NEED TO RENEW MY EFFORTS AS FAR AS GETTING SOME VERBIAGE UP AND I'LL GET A HOLD OF THE WHITMAN FAMILY OR THE BEAGLE FAMILY AND DISCUSS VERBIAGE AND HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO TO SOUND AND TAKE IT FROM THERE. I'LL MAKE THAT MY NUMBER ONE
>> ANY OTHER CLASSIFIABLE OLD BUSINESS THAT ANYONE HAS IN MIND THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO REVIVE? OKAY.
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LET'S MOVE ON TO SUBJECT OF NEW BUSINESS.>> I CAN MENTION SOMETHING THAT CAME TO MY ATTENTION VERY RECENTLY. I GOT A CALL ABOUT ONE SUBJECT AND FOUND OUT ABOUT ABOUT ANOTHER.
I LEARNED THAT FIRST OF ALL THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS APPARENTLY ARE CONSIDERED THE RESHUFFLING OF FINANCES SUCH HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROJECTS COULD ACTUALLY RECEIVE SOME REAL FUNDS IF THIS THING GOES THROUGH. I DON'T HAVE ANY DETAILS.
I WAS TOLD IT'S KIND OF IN THE WORKS WHICH IS VERY ENCOURAGING PROSPECTIVELY BECAUSE DURING THE SAME DISCUSSION THE PERSON I WAS ASKED TO CONTACT FOR SOMETHING ELSE HAVING TO DO WITH THE ROW DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTY I DISCOVERED THE NORTH FLORID LAND TRUST WHICH IS A MAJOR ACQUIRE OF LAND FOR PRESERVATION IS NOW APPARENTLY HEADED THE EPISCOPAL CANON BEFORE THE EPISCOPAL DIOCESE OF THIS REGION.
HE IS A BIG FAN FOR PRESE PRESERVATION.
HE IS ENTIRELY SYMPATHETIC TO THE IDEA OF SEEING IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO REPURCHASE THE UNFORTUNATE LAST LOT SAN FRANCISCO ON BAYARD POINT THAT WE LOST EVENTUALLY WE CANNOT MOBILIZE ENOUGH FINANCING TO SAVE IT AS A PUBLIC ACQUISITION.
SO POSSIBLY ALL OF THIS I'VE LOST IF WE COULD JUST LINE UP THE RIGHT RESOURCES IN THE RIGHT INFORMATION.
HOW ONE GETS THE PUBLIC INVOLVED IN MATCHING FUNDS AND SO FORTH WHICH IS BEEN THE MAIN ENTRY MECHANISM I'M AWARE OF FOR OTHER HISTORIC PROPERTIES IN THE ST STATE.
NOW IT'S A BIG TOURIST ATTRACTION, ALL SORTS OF EVENTS ARE HELD ON THE SITE AND OF COURSE IT'S A GREAT EDUCATING CENTER TO BECAUSE IT HAS ARCHAEOLOGICAL INTERPRETATION PLACE NEARBY BUT BECAUSE DRAWINGS EXISTED OF THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE AT LEAST T THE LAST OE DURING THE SEMINAL WAR THAT HAD THEY KNOW WHAT IT LOOK LIKE SO THEY ARE GRADUALLY REBUILDING THE PALISADES AND NOW THEY'RE EVEN WORKING ON THE BLACKSMITH SHOP IN THE SETTLERS PLACE. IT'S A GREAT ASSET FOR THE
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TOURISM BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO SEE IT SO THEY COME.WE COULD DO THE SAME IF WE CAN EVER ACQUIRE FORT COOPER AS A PLACE AMENABLE TO THE ENVIRONMENT READ WE HAVE ONE BUT TO ENGINEERS DRAWINGS OF WHAT THE BLOCK HOUSE LOOK LIKE.
AND OF COURSE IT WAS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT GUARDED THE ACTUAL WITHIN A FEW YARDS, THE CAMINO ROYALE JUST A LITTLE FANCY FOR WHAT IT WAS BUT IT WAS A VITAL LIFELINE OF THE TRAIL THAT LED ALL THE WAY TO THE WESTERN PANHANDLE WINDING ITS WAY ALONG THE MISSIONS AND RANCHES THAT USED TO EXIST THERE UNDER THE SPANISH. BOTH FIRST AND SECOND THE SECOND HOWEVER. IT WAS STILL KNOWN TO BE THE TRAIL IN MUCH OF THAT TRAIL BECAME A DEVELOPING ROAD WHICH IS A FEDERALLY SPONSORED ROAD ACROSS THE PENINSULA TWO.
I'M ENCOURAGED BY THE IDEA THAT IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE TO SAVE THE SITE YET. ANY COMMENTS ON THAT?
>> IS THAT SITE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CURRENTLY VISIT?
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. >> IS IDENTIFIABLE ENOUGH.
>> I'VE BEEN TIED DOWN WITH A COMPUTER PROBLEM.
BUT I GUESS ONE OF US WOULD HAVE TO VISIT THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE TO SEE THE NAME AND ADDRESS OF THE PERSON WHO BOUGHT IT WITH THE REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS ARE GOING DOWN.
THE REALTOR SEEMS TO HAVE A DUTY NOT TO DISCLOSE THE STUFF UNTIL IT'S DONE. I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THE
PERSON WHO ACQUIRED IT. >> EXCEPT IT WAS ACQUIRED.
>> IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT. >> WE KNOW WHERE IT IS.
>> AND HAVE AN ADDRESS WHERE WE COULD PHYSICALLY GO THERE AND
TAKE A LOOK AT IT. >> BEFORE IT WAS RATHER
DIFFICULT. >> TO SEE WHAT IS THERE TO
PRESERVE. >> SEVERAL OF US HAVE SEEN IT.
ALL THAT REMAINS IS THE SAND PLATFORM WHICH IS PARTIALLY ERODED IN THE RIVER YEARS AGO BUT IT IS STILL THERE.
IT EVEN HAS A BIG BOY SCOUT SIGN GIVEN HIS HISTORY AND OF COURSE WE HAVE A HISTORIC MARKER AND A SUB DISTANCE ALONG ROUTE 16 OR AT LEAST I DON'T IF IT'S STILL THERE BCAUSE THEY KEEP FOOLING
WITH THEM. >> DIDN'T THEY LOSE 10 FEET OF SHORELINE WHEN THEY HAD A STORM THE YEAR BEFORE LAST OR SOMETHING WITHOUT EFFECT? , THEY USED TO BE ABLE TO GET UP ON THE BANKS AND INTO THE PROPERTY THAT WAY.
>> I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING TO STOP PEOPLE WHO CAN ARRIVE BY WATER EVEN NOW EXCEPT THAT IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE WITH THEIR PERMISSION. YES, WE HAVEN'T BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE PERSON WHO ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY.
IT WAS SAD BECAUSE THE COUNTY HAD ACTUALLY INVESTED AT LEAST A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS TO HAVE A PRELIMINARY ARCHAEOLOGY SURVEY OF THE PLACE. AND THEY FOUND IT WAS WILD, THE LAND TRUST AT AS IT WAS CONSTITUTED DID NOT DISTINGUISH BETWEEN IT AND ANY OTHER RAW LAND THAT HAD NO, NO ARCHAEOLOGICAL VALUE. IT WAS ACQUIRED, EVERYTHING WAS ACQUIRED EXCEPT THE ONE LOT SEEING THE ACTUAL SITE ITSELF.
>> IF I ADD ONE THING THE ST. JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IS DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN THE PROPERTY THEY MADE IT A PRIORITY FOR THEM. THEY'RE HOPEFULLY GOING TO GIVE US AN UPDATE LATER IN THE SPRING.
RIGHT NOW THERE IS NOTHING TO REPORT ON THE ACTIVITY WITH
PURCHSING THE PROPERTY. >> OKAY THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MENTION, ONE THING PERHAPS WE SHOULD LOOK INTO, WHAT ARE THE CURRENT GUIDELINES FOR PUTTING TOGETHER AGENDAS AND SO FORTH.
I HAD A RECENT COMMUNICATION FROM BETH WHICH RAISED THE
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QUESTION IN MY MIND WHETHER THINGS HAVE CHANGED A LITTLE B BIT. UNTIL THE MOVE HOLDING OUR MEETINGS HERE THE INTERPRETATION OF THE SUNSHINE LAW WAS THAT ANYONE COULD ANNOUNCE TO THE GENERAL BOARD SOME SUBJECT THAT THEY WANTED TO INCLUDE ON THE AGENDA AND AS LONG AS IT DIDN'T CRATE A DISCUSSION BACK FROM THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS IT SHOULD BE MENTIONED SO THEY WOULD BE AWARE OF IT.AND USUALLY IS STARTED BY HAVING HIS AGENDA ITEMS GO TO THE CHAIRMAN, WHOEVER IT WAS AT THE TIME.
IS THAT STILL THE CASE. >> AS ALWAYS I WELCOME YOU GIVING ME SUGGESTIONS FOR ITEMS TO PUT ON THE AGENDA I JUST NEED TO HAVE THEM A WEEK BEFORE THE MEETING SO THEY CAN BE PUT INTO HER SYSTEM WHICH WE HAD ISSUES WITH LATELY BUT ALWAYS I WELCOME
SUGGESTIONS FOR THE AGENDA. >> WHEN WE SEND THOSE SUGGESTIONS OVER, SHOULD WE REPLY ALL OR SEND THEM DIRECTLY TO YOU WITHOUT BROADCASTING TO THE REST OF THE BOARD?
>> ALL COMMUNICATION SHOULD BE INDIVIDUAL, EVEN WHEN YOU'RE REPLYING THAT YOU CAN ATTEND THE MEETING SINCE WE STARTED THE PROCESS LAST TIME WHICH I APPRECIATE YOU ALL RESPONDING SO WE KNOW WE WILL HAVE A QUORUM. ALL CORRESPONDENCE REALLY SHOULD
BE INDIVIDUAL NOT REPLY ALL. >> TO RESPOND DIRECTLY TO YOU?
>> YES. >> IT CONCERNS ME IN THIS POSITION AGAIN THAT WE HAVE A CONSIDERABLE PROBLEM WITH DELAYS BECAUSE OF DELAYS AND COMMUNICATION ARE PEOPLE NOT KNOWING ENOUGH TO BE FULLY ENGAGED AS MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, IF WERE NOT AWARE OF EVEN SUGGESTIONS FOR AGENDA ITEMS AS A GROUP. I FORESEE NOW WILL BE A FURTHER
DRIVE ON OUR ACTIVITIES. >> YOU'RE ALWAYS WELCOME TO MAKE COMMENTS UNDER THE BOARD MEMBERS COMMENTS.
A LOT WHAT WAS DISCUSSED TONIGHT PROBABLY SHOULD'VE BEEN BROUGHT UP UNDER BOARDMEMBER'S COMMENTS. GENERALLY THE OLD BUSINESS AND NEW BUSINESSES FOR TOPICS FOR PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON FOR INSTANCE AT OUR NEXT MEETING IF WERE GOING TO HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE BLUE ANGELS MARKER OR THE SLIM WHITMAN MARKER I WOULD PUT THOSE UNDER OLD BUSINESS TO BE DISCUSSED AND IF YOU HAVE TEXT FOR THE MARKER THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE BOARD I WELCOME THAT BEFORE THE MEETING AND I WILL PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA SO IT IS PART OF THE RECORD FOR THE AGENDA AS WELL AS GOING INTO THE MINUTES. AND THEN YOU CAN OPENLY DISCUSS IN THE MEETING, MAKE YOUR ADJUSTMENTS TO WHATEVER WORDING YOU WOULD LIKE AND THAT IS ALL PART OF THE FORMAL MEETING
MINUTES. >> OKAY, ANYTHING ON THE SUBJECT, ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS ITEMS THAT THE STAFF WANTS TO BRING UP? OKAY CERTIFICATES OF APPROVAL,
ANYTHING GOING ON WITH THAT? >> ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS?
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OKAY. AND NOW ACCORDING TO THE ORDERHERE ARE THEIR STAFF COMMENTS? >> I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT I WAS GOING TO MAKE I'M TRIED TO BE RESPECTFUL AND RESPONSIBLE WITH EVERYONE'S TIME I KNOW YOU ALL ARE VOLUNTEERS, OUR AGENDAS HAVE BEEN LIGHT NOW THAT WERE STARTING TO GET INTO CONTENT AND MARKER AND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
THESE ARE THE DATES. WHAT I'M GOING TO POINT OUT AS A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT WE ARE ONLY REQUIRED TO HAVE FOUR MEETINGS DURING THE YEAR. WE ACTUALLY HAVE 10 MEETING SCHEDULED. IN THE PAST WE HAD ISSUES WITH QUORUM NOT HAVING ENOUGH. I KNOW SOME OF YOU ARE TRAVELING A DISTANCE TO COME TO THE MEETING.
AGAIN WANTING TO RESPECT YOUR TIME IF OUR AGENDAS ARE LIGHT I WANTED TO PUT THIS OUT TO YOU IS IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN HAVING LESS MEETINGS THAN THE 10 THAT WERE ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED.%
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WE HAVE TO HAVE FOR MAYBE IF YOU WOULD LIKE A BUFFER COUPLE MORE THAN F FOR ANY MAKE SURE WE ALWS HAVE A QUORUM TO QUALIFY.>> THAT'S A SUGGESTION OR A TOPIC AND PUTTING OUT TO YOU TO
SEE WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE. >> I WOULD SUGGEST SIX.
>> I THINK THAT HAS US MEETING EVERY OTHER MONTH.
WE STILL HAVE JULY AND DECEMBER WERE WE DON'T HAVE MEETINGS,
>> IT'S JUST MY THOUGHT. I'M OPEN TO ANYBODY.
>> LET'S SAY OTHER MEMBERS, I HAVE MY OWN OPINION.
>> TO ME IT SEEMS IT'S NOT TOO OFTEN THAT WE HAVE PROJECTS COME UP ON A FAST TRACK THAT WE GOTTA GET IT DONE OR THINKS OF THAT NATURE. IT'S USUALLY A PROCESS THAT INVOLVES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME AND EFFORT IN RESEARCH OF THAT NATURE. SO I'M GOOD WITH EITHER FOUR OR SIX. EITHER WAY, I'M RETIRED SO I CAN MAKE 10 MEETINGS A YEAR IF YOU WANTED BUT FOUR OR SIX IS GOOD WITH ME. BUT IT'S UP TO EVERYBODY ELSE.
>> THAT'S OKAY WITH ME. >> IS A SOMETHING WE WOULD NEED
>> I WOULD ALSO LIKE SOME INPUT IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO THIS.
SOME INPUT AS TO WHICH OF THESE MEETINGS WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE HAD TO ALREADY. I DON'T IF YOU TRAVEL DURING SUMMER OR FALL PERHAPS SO I WOULD LIKE INPUT ON WHICH MEETINGS YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO THIS.
>> I AGREE I THINK SIX IS REASONABLE, FOR SEEMS ONLY WITH THE BUDGET AND KNOWING WE HAVE TO HAVE THINGS DONE JUST TO STAY ON TOP OF THINGS. MAYBE FOUR IS NOT QUITE ENOUGH, MAYBE SIX. I AGREE.
>> I WOULD THINK FOR THE TIME BEING WE OUGHT TO HAVE AS MANY AS WE REASONABLY CAN, PERHAPS A CURTAILMENT OF ONE OR TWO BUT THE HISTORY OF THE SITUATION HAS BEEN WITHIN RECENT MEMORY WE SOMETIMES LOST THE CYCLE OF GETTING MARKERS CONFIRMED AND THROUGH AND ISSUED ON TIME BECAUSE OF DELAYS OR SOMETIMES LACK OF A QUORUM.% THAT IS THE OTHER THING WHAT IF YOU CUT IT BACK TO ONLY SIX OR FOUR AND YOU DON'T GET A QUORUM, THEY WERE BASICALLY DEAD IN THE WATER FOR A LONG STRETCH OF TIME. THAT CONCERNS ME EVEN THOUGH IT MAY BE ATTRACTIVE TO RUNNING AROUND FREE FOR EXTRA TIME.
THERE IS THAT TO THINK ABOUT. WE ARE HERE TO GET SOME THINGS
DONE I BELIEVE. >> IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO SCHEDULE SIX AND FOR INSTANCE WE DO NOT HAVE A QUORUM DURING ONE OF THE SIX, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL MONTH ON TO
OFFSET THAT? >> WE COULD TRY, CERTAINLY.
SOMETIMES IT'S A CHALLENGE TO RESERVE THIS ROOM BUT WE COULD.
BUT AGAIN YOU ONLY NEED FOR SO IF YOU HAVE SIX, PROBABLY A GOOD CHANCE YOU WILL HAVE A QUORUM WITH AT LEAST FOUR.
>> WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO KILL MARGE FOR STARTERS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO ME IN APRIL?
>> ALL MOVE THAT WE MEET IN APRIL.
BUT I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT ALL THE DATES AND PERHAPS DECIDE WHAT DATES FIRST BECAUSE THE BLUE ANGELS MARKER, RIGHT NOW WERE DOING THE DEDICATION IN OCTOBER HOPEFULLY OF 2023 SO WE WILL DEFINITELY WANT TO BE MEETING IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER SO WE HAVE OUR DUCKS IN A ROW THERE.
SO BETH, CAN YOU. >> MAJESTY TO THE TARGETED FOR THE EDUCATIONAL MARKER IS OCTOBER THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE DONE. CERTAINLY WE COULD HAVE THE BLUE ANGELS MARKER TARGET DATE OF OCTOBER AS WELL, THE CHAIR HAS SAID WE NEED TO CHECK THE TIMING THAT THE COMMITTEE MEETS TO
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DISCUSS THE MARKERS. IT'S AT YOUR LEISURE WHATMEETINGS YOU WOULD WANT TO HAVE. >> OKAY, IT'S UP TO THE REST OF THE BOARD TO PROPOSE WHAT THEY THINK IS WISE.
MY VIEW. >> DID I SHARE THAT WITH YOU THE
DATES? >> YOU JUST PASSED IT UP.
>> I THOUGHT I HAD IT. I'M SORRY.
>> THEY WERE EXTRA. >> I DIDN'T TAKE ONE BECAUSE I
THOUGHT I HAD ONE. >> MY THOUGHT WAS WE COULD EXPERIMENT FOR STARTERS WITH SAYING WE WILL NOT MEET IN MARCH BUT WE WILL MEET IN APRIL BUT WILL SEE BY THEN IF EVERYTHING IS STILL UNDERWAY AS IT NEEDS TO BE TO MEET SOME OF THESE GOALS.
IF IT IS IN EVERYTHING IS WONDERFUL THEN MAYBE WE CONSIDER TAKING OFF ANOTHER OF THESE MONTHS OR WHATEVER BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE THE MORE CAUTIOUS WAY TO SEE WHETHER THIS WORKS FOR THE PURPOSE THAT WERE HERE FOR.
>> I AM OPEN TO THAT. I WAS ALSO THINKING SINCE WE HAVE MET IN JANUARY AND WE MET IN FEBRUARY NOW AND IF WE MEET IN APRIL, FROM THERE WE COULD DO EVERY OTHER MONTH AND MEET OUR SIX. SO IF WE MET IN JUNE, SEPTEMBER, NOVEMBER. IT IS JUST ALTERNATING MONTHS.
>> THOSE ARE THE TWO VIEWS, IF YOU KNOW IN ADVANCE AND YOU'RE CONFIDENT THAT THAT WILL WORK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW IT STARTS OFF IF IT REALLY DOES WORK WE COULD DO THAT.
>> I'M GOOD WITH THAT WE MEET IN APRIL AND WE SEE HOW THAT GOES
AND DECIDE AT THAT POINT. >> IF ANYBODY WANTS TO WEIGH IN.
>> I A YOU THINK THAT'S A GOOD PLAN.
>> I AGREE WITH THAT. >> I GUESS WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION OR WE JUST AGREED TO DO IT?
>> JUST TO BE SAFE LET'S MAKE A MOTION.
>> I THOUGHT SO. >> NOBODY HAS IN THE CHAIR IS NOT SUPPOSED TO INITIATE A MOTION I DON'T THINK INLETS IS A
TIE-BREAKING. >> I MOVE THAT WE ELIMINATE MARCH 2 MEETING AND MEET ON APRIL 6, 2023 TO SEE HOW THE PRESERVATION BOARD DATES WORK AS A SCHEDULE.
>> I SECOND THAT. >> SECOND, OKAY.
>> A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED.
>> MARCH ELIMINATED AS OUR MEETING TIME AND WILL NEED TO AGAIN IN APRIL AND WILL THEN BE ABLE TO CONSIDER WHETHER TO ELIMINATE OTHER MONTH. OKAY THE MOTION IS MADE AND SECONDED, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? REVELATIONS ANYBODY HAS BEFORE WE VOTE? OKAY, ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING
>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSING? IT CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. ANY OTHER STAFF COMMENTS, I
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DON'T KNOW WHO STAFF IS IN THIS CASE, IS THAT YOU QUESTION WHAT.>> NO, I HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENTS.
>> OKAY. OTHER BOARD MEMBERS COMMENTS?
YES. >> YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS?
>> ALL JUST GET THE CONTACT INFORMATION FROM YOU.
>> FROM BETH. >> IF YOU SEND IT TO ME ALL
FORWARDED ON TO THE GENTLEMAN. >> I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU HAD MORE INFORMATION SO I CAN TO THE DOCTOR ABOUT FINDINGS, WHERE IT SAT, STUFF LIKE THE BASICS.
>> OKAY I WILL SHARE MR. CLINT'S REACH OUT TO HIM.
HE DID NOT LEAVE ANY INFORMATION WITH US.
>> OKAY. >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY REPRESENTING DISTRICT FOR DOWNING KEYSTONE HEIGHTS THAT WE ARE NOW GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER, MAY IS HISTORIC MONTH FOR
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FLORIDA SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER MOTHER'S DAY CELEB CELEBRATION, SO MAY 13 WHICH IS THE SATURDAY BEFORE MOTHER'S DAY WE ARE HAVING A TOUR OF HOMES, WALKING TO HER WE WILL BE MEETING AT THE KEYSTONE PAVILION IF YOU'VE NOT BEEN TO THE KEYSTONE PAVILION. IN THE PAST IS BEEN FULLY RESTORED, IT'S GREAT IN ITS INNER KEYSTONE BEACH AREA AND WE ARE JUST GIVING OUT MAPS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN DO A WALKING TOUR OF THE HOMES THERE. LAST YEAR WE HAD ABOUT 100 ATTENDEES AND THEN ALSO AS THE HISTORIC COMMISSION OF KEYSTONE HEIGHTS WE HAVE WORKED ON A PROGRAM WITH THE SCHOOL, THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO TEACH THEM ABOUT THE HISTORY OF KEYSTONE AND WERE BRINGING FIFTH-GRADERS OVER TO THE PAVILION, HAVING LUNCH AND INCORPORATING INTO THE HISTORY CLASS THE HISTORY OF KEYSTONE AND GIVING THEM A TOUR. IT IS CUTE.>> IS THIS THE 13TH OF MAY? >> THE 13TH OF MAY IS A WALKING TOUR OF HOMES. AND APRIL WE DO NOT HAVE A DATE YET. WE ARE WORKING THAT OUT WITH THE SCHOOL FOR THE KIDS EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM AND IT'S GOING TO BE AT A LEVEL THAT FIFTH-GRADERS COULD UNDERSTAND AND KEEP THEIR
ATTENTION. >> HAVE YOU MADE UP A FLYER FOR
THIS EVENT YET? >> WE ARE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT
NOW. >> WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE GET
THAT AND SPREAD THAT AROUND. >> RIGHT, WHEN WE MEET IN APRIL.
>> IF YOU WILL SEND IT TO ME. >> ANY OTHER UPCOMING EVENTS THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO MENTION FOR THE RECORD WORDLE FIND ITS WAY ONTO THE WEBSITE, THE COUNTIES.
OKAY. >> IF THERE IS ANY OTHER BUSINESS OR COMMENTS, FOR THE RECORD I GUESS TIME IS TO CALL FOR AN ADJOURNMENT. IS THERE ANYBODY -- YOU MIGHT INTRODUCE YOURSELF IN TERMS OF YOUR INTEREST IN ALL THAT?
>> MY NAME IS BELLA FRANCO, I'M 22 YEARS OLD I GREW UP IN CLAY COUNTY AND I AM A HISTORY MAJOR, RIGHT NOW I'M TRYING TO PERHAPS APPLY TO BE A TUTOR OR A SUBSTITUTE UNTIL I BECOME A TEACHER IN THE NEXT YEAR. MY INTEREST FOR HISTORY, HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST BUT WHAT I DID DEEP DIVE RESEARCH INTO WAS IN 1962 WHITE MOUNTAIN APACHE TRIBE, THEIR NEWSPAPER THAT WAS WHAT MY BIG RESEARCH PROJECTS. PERIOD AMERICAN HISTORY I GUESS.
>> WONDERFUL, THAT IS GREAT, WELCOME.
>> HAPPY TO HAVE YOU WITH US. WITH THERE BEING NO OTHER
BUSINESS. >> I HAVE ONE OTHER THING.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK BETH FOR ALL THE HELP SHE HAS GIVEN US AND ALL THE WORK SHE DOES, TIRELESSLY TO KEEP A STRAIGHT AND ACCORDING TO WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING, THANK YOU VERY MUCH
BETH, WE APPRECIATE IT. >> OKAY.
SO WE
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