Jan 24, 2023 BCC Agenda

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OKAY. IF YOU WOULD JOIN US FOR THE INVOCATION.

COMMISSIONER BURKE WILL DELIVER THAT AND THEN WE WILL HAVE THE PLEDGE.

>> PRAY WITH ME. DEAR LORD, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS DAY.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US HERE TO OUR WONDERFUL COUNTY AND WE ARE SO GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF THE BLESSINGS THAT YOU HAVE BESTOWED UPON US. PLEASE BE WITH US TODAY AND AS WE ARE MAKING IMPORTANT DECISIONS THAT CAN AFFECT SO MANY PEOPLE, HELP US ALL TO BE RESPECTFUL AND KIND. PLEASE BE WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND MILITARY AND PLEASE WATCH OVER THEM. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN BLESSED WITH AN THANK YOU FOR OUR COUNTY AND OUR LEADERS AND STAFF AND IT'S IN YOUR NAME I PRAY, AMEN.

>> THIS AFTERNOON WE HAVE CHIEF PETTY OFFICER EDUARDO SILVA, CHIEF PETTY OFFICER SILVA IS RETIRED FROM THE U.S. NAVY HE RETIRED AFTER 24 YEARS AND SERVED AS A CHIEF NAVY CAREER COUNSELOR AVIATION WARFARE SPECIALIST WHILE ON ACTIVE DUTY, HE WAS DEPLOYED TO BEIRUT, LEBANON, ON BOARD THE U.S. NASSAU LH A FORK DURING OPERATION DESERT STEEL -- SHIELD STORM AND THE LIBERATION OF KUWAIT AND SERVED ON BOARD THE USS DWIGHT D EISENHOWER AND SERVED AS A MILITARY LIAISON IN HONDURAS AS AN INTERPRETER AND SERVED IN NAPLES, ITALY AS PART OF NATO FORCES AND RECEIVED MEDALS AND AWARDS DURING HIS SERVICE FIVE NAVY MARINE CORPS ACHIEVEMENT MEDALS A SOUTHWEST ASIA SERVICE MEDAL AND CAMPAIGN MEDAL AMONG MANY OTHERS HE IS AN ORANGE PARK RESIDENT AND SERVES AS THE AMERICAN LEGION POST 373 AND DISTRICT AS THE SERVICE OFFICER IN VFW POST 5968 AS JUNIOR VICE COMMANDER. HE IS A MEMBER OF THE VIETNAM VETERANS OF AMERICA CLAY COUNTY CHAPTER 1059. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

IF YOU WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE AND THEN YOU CAN SAY A FEW WORDS.

THE MICROPHONE IS BEHIND YOU. IF EVERYBODY CAN JOIN IN PLEASE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY

AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY?

>> I HATE TO HAVE MY BACK TURNED BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE IN FRONT OF EVERYONE. IT'S REALLY AN HONOR THAT YOU HAVE ME HERE AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU FOLKS ARE DOING FOR US TODAY AND I KNOW OUR FUTURE WILL BE VERY BRIGHT HAVING FOLKS LIKE YOU IN THESE POSITIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[CALL TO ORDER]

[PET ADOPTIONS]

>> I WILL NOW CALL TO ORDER THE BOARD OF COUNY COMMISSIONERS MEETING FOR JANUARY 24, 2023.

LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT. WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH PET

ADOPTIONS. >> OUR FIRST DOG IS BOBBY NEUTERED MALE NEXT GRADE, FOUR YEARS OLD AND WEIGHS 54 POUNDS. HAVING SEEN ME DO ZOOM IS? IT IS ADORABLE.

I DON'T DO THEM OFTEN, ONLY WHEN I'M SUPER EXCITED TO BE HANGING OUTSIDE WITH YOU WERE PLAYING WITH MY STUFFED ANIMAL. QUICK FACTS. I HAVE THE VOLUNTEER STAFF FOLLOWING THAT THINK I'M A STUD MUFFIN. DOG FRIENDLY.

I REALLY ENJOY MY DOG FRIENDS. I THINK I AM SMALL ENOUGH TO BE A LAPDOG.

MEATBALLS ARE MY FAVORITE TRICKS. HE IS UP TO DATE ON VACCINES AND MICROCHIPS. NEXT WE HAVE MISSY PICKED A SPAYED FEMALE MIXED BREED.

SHE'S FIVE YEARS OLD AND WEIGHS 41 POUNDS. FIRECRACKER WHO LOVES LIFE AND YOU. MISSY HAS A PERSONALITY THAT MAKES YOU FALL IN LOVE WITH HER IMMEDIATELY. PLEASE ASK TO MEET ME IN THE PLAY ARE TO SHOW YOU HOW I SHINE. I AM NOT FRIENDLY BUT I PREFER THE MALE DOGS.

I ENJOY BATHTIME AND I LOVE TO PLAY. MISSY IS UP-TO-DATE ON HER VACCINES AND DOES MICROCHIPS. KITTY NEUTERED MALE DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR ONE-YEAR-OLD.

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MAKE SURE YOU HAVE AN ENDLESS SUPPLY OF TOYS ON HAND. KITTY IS UP-TO-DATE ON VACCINES AND AS MICROCHIP. NOW WE HAVE A SPAYED FEMALE DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR.

SHE IS OUR SOCIAL BUTTERFLY AT THE SHELTER. IF SHE HAD THINGS HER WAY, SHE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO ROAM AROUND FREE. YOU CAN LOOK BUT I DOUBT YOU WILL FIND A SWEETER GIRL. SHE IS UP-TO-DATE ON HER VACCINES AND IS MICROCHIPS.

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ADOPTIONS. >> WE ARE NOW GOING TO MOVE INTO PRESENTATIONS AND WHILE THE HIGHRIDGE INITIATIVE DEVELOPMENT IS COMING UP CARRIE IS COMING UP TO PRESENT WE ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE WE HAVE ONE OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE BUT SHE IS ALSO THE WIFE OF THE NEWLY NAMED VA IN CLAY COUNTY WAS NAMED LAST WEEK ONE OF FOUR CHILDREN HELICOPTER HIS WIFE IS HERE WITH US AND SHE'S NOT HERE FOR THIS BUT WE WANTED TO RECOGNIZE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY WITH US.

>> I AM THRILLED TO BE HERE AND GRATEFUL TO PRESENT THE HYBRID INITIATIVES.

I MET PASTOR AT MISSION OF THE DIRT ROAD AND I'VE LIVED ALMOST MY ENTIRE LIFE -- I WENT AWAY FOR COLLEGE AND STARTED MY FAMILY IN SOUTH CAROLINA BUT WE QUICKLY RETURNED HOME.

IN 2016, I LAUNCHED MISSION OF THE DIRT ROAD WITH THE FLORIDA DISTRICT OF THE WESLEYAN CHURCH. IT IS A CHURCH AND THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND WE ARE MAKING DISCIPLES THROUGH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. IN 2017 WE STARTED MEETING ON A VACANT LOT AND HIGHRIDGE THAT WAS DONATED TO A NONPROFIT THAT WE HAVE ALWAYS WORKED CLOSELY WITH IN AND 2019 WE PURCHASED OUR BUILDING ON STATE ROAD 100 DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENTRANCE. WE AVERAGE A PERSON THROUGH OUR DOORS EVERY HOUR WE ARE OPEN FOR COFFEE AND WI-FI IN ADDITION TO HELPING PEOPLE CONNECT TO THE RESOURCES THEY NEED, WE OFFER COMMUNITY CLASSES, AA AND OTHER SUPPORT GROUPS AND MORE TRADITIONAL CHURCH ACTIVITIES. WE HAVE JUST OPENED A PUBLIC SHOWER AND A TOOL ENDING LIBRARY FOR OUR NEIGHBORS AND RESERVE 2 TO 3 HOT MEALS EVERY WEEK FOR FREE.

AND WE HAVE A YOUTH DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. MY FAMILY MOVED INTO HIGHRIDGE ESTATES IN 2018 AND SO I KNOW FIRSTHAND WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LIVE THERE.

AS MOST OF MY NEIGHBORS WOULD TELL YOU, THERE IS A LOT THAT'S REALLY WONDERFUL ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL THERE. HOWEVER, IT'S ALSO A PLACE THAT HAS BEEN UNDER RESOURCED FOR A LONG TIME. AND SO THERE ARE BARRIERS TO STRENGTH AND SAFETY ARE OVERWHELMING, WHICH IS WHAT BRINGS ME HERE TODAY.

TO DISCUSS THE HIGHRIDGE INITIATIVE AND ASKED THAT YOU CONSIDER SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF. HIGHRIDGE ESTATES WAS DEVELOPED IN 1969 IS A 55 AND UP COMMUNITY. BUT IT WAS DEVELOPED ON REALLY EMPTY PROMISES FROM THE DEVELOPER. THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS HAVE TRIED AT VARIOUS TIMES THROUGHOUT HISTORY TO WORK TOGETHER BUT THEY'VE JUST BEEN UNABLE TO ACCESS THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO MEET NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS. THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ENTIRELY RESIDENTIAL WITH APPROXIMATELY 500 HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S LOCATED JUST OUTSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF KEYSTONE HEIGHTS IN UNINCORPORATED SOUTHEAST CLAY COUNTY BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS OVER A THOUSAND ACRES WHICH MAKES IT A TIME AND 1/2.

WE BELIEVE THE POPULATION IS ABOUT THE SAME AS THE TOWN LIMITS.BOUT 1500 PEOPLE WE KNOW THERE ARE 237 CLAY COUNTY STUDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. HIGHRIDGE WAS LABELED AN

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SO HOW DID THIS INITIATIVE COME TO BE. IN DECEMBER 2021, I SAW A POST ON WORD-OF-MOUTH, A DANGEROUS PLACE TO BE, BUT A POST FROM A NEIGHBOR THAT WAS ACTUALLY SAYING SOMETHING REALLY POSITIVE ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND SO I DECIDED TO PUT OUT AN INFORMAL SURVEY TO ASK WHAT YOU LIKE ABOUT LIVING HERE AND WHAT DO YOU NOT LIKE. AND THERE WAS ENOUGH RESPONSE TO THAT SURVEY THAT IT WAS LIKE THERE IS INTEREST IN DOING SOMETHING HERE. THE IMMEDIATE THING THAT CAME OUT OF THAT WAS WE COLLABORATED WITH CHRISTCHURCH TO DO A CLEANUP DAY WHERE WE WALKED THE ROADS AND PICKED UP TRASH. AND THEN WE ALSO WERE INTRODUCED TO IMPACT CLAY WITH THE IDEA OF BECOMING A PROJECT AND THEN WE WERE CONNECTED TO COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE.

SO WE FORMED OUR STEERING COMMITTEE AND MAY 2022, AN ADJUSTMENT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THINK SOME OF OUR STEERING COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THEY PUT IN A LOT OF HOURS AND WORK TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, AND IN OCTOBER WE HOSTED HEALTHY HARVEST.

WE HAD 150 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE AND 20 HEALTH ORGANIZATIONS ATTENDED.

WE USED THIS EVENT TO CATALYZE THE EMMANUEL PROJECT WHO IS NOW OFFERING FREE HOTEL SERVICES ONCE A MONTH IN OUR AREA, AND WE ALSO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR WHAT WE CALLED OUR HOTDOG DIALOGUES. WE HOPE -- WE HOSTED 10 WHICH YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS FROM COLLEGE DRIVE, BUT WE SWITCHED THEM UP A LITTLE BIT AND THAT WE OFFERED CHILDCARE, WE OFFER HOTDOGS AS A MEAL, AND THEN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE SCHEDULE THEM AT DIFFERENT TIMES THROUGHOUT THE WEEK SO THAT PEOPLE WHO DON'T WORK A TRADITIONAL WORK SCHEDULE COULD MAKE IT. SO WE HAD OVER 100 PEOPLE FILL OUT A SURVEY OR PARTICIPATE IN A DISCUSSION, AND IN DECEMBER WE STARTED WRITING A FINAL REPORT SO WE COULD BE HERE WITH YOU TODAY. SO I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED THAT WE MODEL OURSELVES AFTER THE COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE. THEY WERE FOCUSED ON REVITALIZATION AND WE ARE FOCUSED ON REVITALIZATION. WE STARTED WITH COMMUNITY INTERESTS LIKE THEY DID, AND WE HAVE USED THIS DELIBERATIVE DIALOGUE PROCESS, BUT WE DID ADJUSTED, LIKE I MENTIONED ALREADY, AND WE ALSO HAVE TO DIFFERENT AND THAT THIS IS A LARGE ONLY RESIDENTIAL AREA.

WHICH MAKES THINGS A LITTLE HARDER IN SOME WAYS. BUT WE HAVE REALLY ACCOMPLISHED THINGS THAT I'M QUITE PROUD OF. NOT ONLY DID WE COMPLETE THE SURVEY AND DISCUSSIONS AND HAVE 100 PEOPLE PARTICIPATE AND NOT, WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY EIGHT KEY CONCERNS, LACK OF WATER, LACK OF ROAD MAINTENANCE, DRUG PREVENTION, REDUCING THE STIGMA, BEAUTIFICATION AND PROPERTY MAINTENANCE ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION HEALTHCARE AND HEALTHY FOODS.

I'M GOING TO TAKE THE TIME TO GIVE YOU ALL OF THE DETAILS ABOUT EACH OF THESE ACCOMPLISHMENTS BUT I WANT TO TAKE SOME TIME TO RECOGNIZE THAT ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH GREAT EFFORT AND COLLABORATION BY LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SEVERAL NONPROFITS WORKING TOGETHER. I ALSO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK THE COUNTY FOR USING THE CDBG FUNDING TO BENEFIT AREAS LIKE THIS FOR PURSUING THAT FUNDING AND ALSO BEING WILLING TO USE IT TO RENT DUMPSTERS FOR CLEANUP TAZE THAT HAS BEEN A HUGE HELP AND IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE IN HELPING CLEAN UP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO AFTER CONSIDERING THE DATA WE GATHER THROUGH OUR DELIBERATIONS AND SURVEYS LIKE COUNTY STAFF AND OTHER COMMUNITY LEADERS WE WERE ABLE TO -- WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE UP THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. I AM GOING TO READ THEM AS LISTED IN HER FINAL REPORT ON

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YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THESE REQUESTS CORRELATE WITH THE THREE APPROACHES WE IDENTIFIED IN THE DISCUSSION GUIDE. SO WORK WITH URBAN LAND INSTITUTE AND CLAY COUNTY ZONING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO DEVELOP A MASTER PLAN THAT CONSIDERS ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AND MAINTENANCE GRANTING ANESTHETICS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATER AND SEWAGE INFRASTRUCTURE AND DEVELOPMENT OF QUALITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE SECOND REQUEST IS COLLABORATE WITH CLAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO ADDRESS DRUG PREVENTION MEASURES IN HIGHRIDGE ESTATES. HIGHRIDGE ESTATES REALLY DOES STILL HAVE SO MUCH POTENTIAL.

THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 1000 VACANT LOTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH MEANS THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR DEVELOPMENT. ALSO, SINCE THERE ARE VERY FEW LOTS THAT ARE BUILDABLE IN THE TOWN LIMITS THIS WOULD BE A GREAT NEXT LOGICAL STEP. HOWEVER, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DEVELOP WITH A CURRENT RESIDENCE IN MIND. WE WILL NEED TO WORK TOGETHER AND THINK CREATIVELY TO DEVELOP A PLAN THAT DOESN'T PRICE OUT OUR CURRENT RESIDENCE BUT ALLOWS FOR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS A 50-YEAR-OLD PROBLEM, AND THESE PROBLEMS WERE NOT CREATED OVERNIGHT.

THE SOLUTION WILL TAKE TIME AND PLANNING AND COLLABORATION AND WE ARE VERY AWARE OF THAT.

WHEN WE TALK TO PEOPLE WHO DID NOT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT ADDRESSING DRUG USE AND DEALING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS WAS HIGH ON THEIR LIST. BUT PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AGREED THAT IT WAS AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BUT ALSO WERE VERY INTERESTED IN CREATING IN THE WIDER AND DEEPER ISSUE OF IMPROVING RELATIONSHIPS WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OTHER AGENCIES THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL AS WE ADDRESS SUBSTANCE ABUSE.

SO UNDER OUR PEOPLE POWER REQUEST, WE HAVE SEEK SUPPORT FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA EXTENSION FOR EACH PROGRAM AND CLAY COUNTY LIBRARY PARKS AND RECREATION TO DEVELOP YOUTH PROGRAMS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SUPPORT MISSION OF THE DIRT ROAD TO BRING RESIDENTS TOGETHER FOR CLEANUP TAZE, NEIGHBORHOOD AESTHETIC IMPROVEMENTS AND COMMUNITY EVENTS INTENDED TO PROVIDE EDUCATION AND RESOURCES.WE ARE ALREADY DOING SOME OF THIS PROGRAMMING WORK. PEYTON BEATTY IS ON THE COMMITTEE SHE'S AN EXTENSION AGENT WHO LIVES IN KEYSTONE AND SHARES A SEAT.

FOR STUDENTS FROM OUR YOUTH DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM ATTENDED THE 4H COLLEGE AND CAREER CAMP THIS SUMMER AND THEY WERE ABLE TO DO THAT LARGELY BECAUSE TRANSPORTATION WAS PROVIDED TO GREEN COVE TO THE CAMP. SHE'S CURRENTLY TEACHING A CHILD PREP SERIES FOR OUR TEAM IN THE BUILDING WE ARE PLEASED WITH THE PARTICIPATION IN THE HOPE THAT THAT BUILDING AND OUR STUDENTS. AND THEN WE ARE ALREADY HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH LIBRARIES AND PARKS AND RACKS ABOUT WHAT COULD HAPPEN. I MENTIONED OUR CLEANUP DAYS EARLIER. WE HAD OVER 50 PEOPLE INVOLVED IN HELPING WITH THOSE.

AT OUR LAST CLEANUP DAY WE HAD A SMALLER CREW OF HELPERS. HERE WERE ONLY 10, BUT ALL OF HIS PEOPLE EITHER LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR HAD A FAMILY MEMBER WHO LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE ARE BEGINNING TO SEE THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE REALLY GROW. I DON'T KNOW IF I MENTIONED BUT I THINK THE NUMBER UP THERE SAYS.35. I SINCE LEARNED AT THE LAST CLEANUP DAY WE HAD ANOTHER 1.3 TONS OF TRASH REMOVED. IT'S A TOTAL OF 1.8 TONS OF TRASH THAT'S BEEN REMOVED AT 3.5 TONS OF TIRES. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT CARING FOR NEIGHBORS, WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU A TO IMPROVE TRANSPORTATION TO NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES AND PROVIDING SHUTTLE SERVICES WITHIN THE KEYSTONE HEIGHTS AREA. WE ALSO HAVE HERE SUPPORT NONPROFIT AND SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AROUND PROVIDING HEALTHCARE NEAR HIGHRIDGE ESTATES AND ENCOURAGE CLAY COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES TO CONTINUE ADDRESSING ANIMAL CARE RESOURCES TO PET OWNERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. TRANSPORTATION WAS A HUGE ISSUE DURING THE DISCUSSIONS WERE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN HIGHRIDGE THE UNMAINTAINED GROWTH

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THE POORLY MAINTAINED ROADS ALSO MEANS THAT STUDENTS HAVE TO WALK LONGER THAN USUAL DISTANCES TO THE SCHOOL BUS AND THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS SO WALKING AND INCLEMENT WEATHER BECOMES A BARRIER TO SCHOOL ATTENDANCE OF FAMILIES DON'T HAVE A PERSONAL VEHICLE.

WE ARE SO THRILLED THAT THROUGH EFFICACY EFFORTS WITH THE WAY FREE MEDICAL CLINIC TO THE MANUAL PROJECT IS NOW OFFERING FREE HEALTHCARE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE ON A MONTHLY BASIS.

WE HOPE TO BUILD AND GROW THOSE EFFORTS. ONE OF OUR STEERING COMMITTEE MEMBERS WORKS AT A BUSINESS THAT'S LOCATED ON STATE ROAD 100 AND THERE IS THAT BIPAP THERE AND SHE SAYS THEY CAN ALMOST SET THEIR CLOCKS ON PEOPLE WALKING FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE DOLLAR GENERAL WITH THEIR WAGON OR WHATEVER TO PICK UP GROCERIES.

THAT ACCESS TO HEALTHY FOOD IS REALLY A NEED. WHILE ROAD MAINTENANCE IS THE GREATEST CONCERN THAT PEOPLE EXPRESS WHILE LIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, STRAY ANIMALS IS REALLY HIGH UP THERE. AND WE -- AS WE KEPT TALKING ABOUT THIS WE WERE ABLE TO CONNECT TWISTED OAKS AND CLAY COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FREE SPAY AND NEUTER TO OUR AREA SPECIFICALLY. THERE ARE CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WAYS WE COULD EMPOWER AND EDUCATE PET OWNERS AND OTHER RESIDENTS WHO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT ANIMALS. ALL OF THAT TO SAY WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS ENERGY AND THE MOMENTUM THAT HAS DEVELOPED AROUND THE HIGHRIDGE INITIATIVE AND WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT HOW THAT COULD GROW EVEN STRONGER AS WE CREATE -- IF WE CREATE AN OFFICIAL PARTNERSHIP WITH CLAY COUNTY AND THE HIGHRIDGE INITIATIVE. I APPRECIATE YOUR

CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. >> QUESTIONS?

COMMISSIONER BURKE? >> I WAS ABLE TO EXPERIENCE THIS AREA MYSELF AND ALONG WITH MY DAUGHTERS AND IT WAS -- DEFINITE -- IT WAS DEFINITELY MEMORABLE AND I JUST APPLAUD WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND ONE THING -- DID YOU SAY THERE WAS 1100 EMPTY LOTS OR SOMETHING

LIKE THAT? >> ABOUT A THOUSAND. BETWEEN 1011 HUNDRED

>> 37 WENT TO MAKE SURE THE RESIDENTS ARE TAKEN CARE OF AND REGIONAL OUT PRICE THEM.F COURSE, AS A BOARD WE ARE LOOKING AND A LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THAT DEFINITELY DOES RING TRUE TO ME AND MAYBE WE CAN DEFINITELY KEEP THAT ON THE

BACK BURNER ALSO. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> WHO OWNS THOSE LOTS?

>> THEY ARE MOSTLY PRIVATELY OWNED. >> WE OWN SOME OF THEM.

>> YOU DID AT ONE TIME. I KEEP TRACK OF THESE SORTS OF THINGS.

YOU DID AT ONE TIME OWNED A NUMBER, BUT I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW IT'S VERY MINIMAL.

NOW YOU OWN SOME PIECES OF LAND THAT WERE SET ASIDE BY THE DEVELOPERS THAT WERE INTENDED

FOR EASEMENT AND DRAINAGE AND THAT KIND OF THING. >> IF I COULD JUST COMMENT ON THIS. THOSE OF US INVOLVED IN THE COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE ARE VERY FAMILIAR IN THE PROCESS AND THE THING FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO HAVEN'T HEARD OF THE HIGHRIDGE INITIATIVE OR GATEWAY TO CLAY WHAT'S INTERESTING IS I DON'T WANT TO SAY IS FROM THE BOTTOM UP BUT GRASSROOTS LEVEL RATHER THAN GOVERNMENT TRYING TO FORCE THINGS DOWN AND THE CITIZENS ARE GETTING TOGETHER TO TRY TO IMPROVE THEIR OWN LOT AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY NOTEWORTHY AND THAT'S WHY WE SUPPORT THE COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE AND I LOOK FORWARD

TO SUPPORTING THE HIGHRIDGE INITIATIVE. >> HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A DRIVE THROUGH HIGHRIDGE ALL THREE INITIATIVES HAVE IN S COMMON IS REVITALIZATION.

SO ALL THREE LOOKING AT REVITALIZING A PROMINENT AREA AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER.

ALL THREE HAVE A DIFFERENT TWIST TO IT AFTER THAT. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE -- WE WOULD BE WELL ADVISED TO TAKE ON THIS PROJECT. THIS PROJECT HAS, I THINK, -- WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE THE MOST AGAIN, I THINK IN THIS AREA.

WE HAVE TO BE SOMEWHAT CAUTIOUS AND ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD OR READ CONCERNS THE OWNERSHIP OF ROADS WHETHER THEY ARE PRIVATE ROADS OR COUNTY ROADS AND SO WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO

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SO WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE OWN LOTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT ROADS ARE PRETTY IMPORTANT. THE OTHER THING IS IT FALLS -- BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.

I WANT THIS, PUBLIC ORDER ALONG WITH THAT COMES A COMMITMENT OF FINANCIAL RESOURCES FROM THE INDIVIDUAL HOMOWNERS. WE NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE APPROACH CC YOU A BUT I'M ENCOURAGED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY THERE TO REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE OR

CONSTITUENTS IN THE HIGHRIDGE AREA. >> JUST TO COMMENT, I DO APPRECIATE US GETTING TOGETHER AND FLUSHING SOME OF THESE DETAILS OUT.

LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, I THINK THAT THIS IS A REALLY NEAT PROJECT FOR THE COUNTY TO BE ABLE TO COLLABORATE WITH HIGH RIDGE. AS I MENTIONED THEN, THIS IS A HUGE LEFT HOWEVER THIS IS SOMETHING WORTH LOOKING INTO BECAUSE THE IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY, THE POSITIVE IMPACT AND KEYSTONE IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART EVEN THOUGH I DON'T REPRESENT KEYSTONE AND I THINK THAT IT'S REALLY NEAT THAT SOMEBODY IN THE COMMUNITY IS

LEADING THIS EFFORT AND BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION >> AND IN KEYSTONE WE ARE KNOWN FOR TURNING OUT IN OUR SHIRTS SO YOU MAY REMEMBER THE SAVE OUR LIKES GROUP OR ARE THEY REDSHIRTS WE REPRESENT TODAY AND OUR COMMISSION OF THE DIRT ROAD GREEN SHIRTS BUT IT'S BEEN A JOY TO BE PART OF THAT STEERING TEAM AND CARRIE AND I HAVE TALKED FOR SEVERAL YEARS ABOUT WHAT THIS COULD BE AND WE SEE THE VISION BUT IT'S GREAT TO SHARE THE VISION WITH OTHER PEOPLE WHO SEE THE VISION BECAUSE AT FIRST WE WOULD TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT IT AND YOU WOULD WATCH THEIR EYES. BUT WE ARE NOT CRAZY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALLY HEARD WHAT CARRIE SAID ABOUT -- THERE'S 239 GUESTS FROM SUPERINTENDENT PROSTATE AND 239 SCHOOL STUDENTS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. WE CAN REALLY CHANGE GENERATIONS BY THIS WORK IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH WILL CHANGE A COMMUNITY THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE WITH THE BLACK CREEK PROJECT SO THE TIMING IS PERFECT.

RESOLUTION AND IT -- WE CAN -- WE CAN PASS THIS RESOLUTION. RESOLUTION NUMBER 22, 23, IT DOESN'T HAVE A NUMBER. DOES IT NEED A NUMBER? NOT UNTIL IT'S APPROVED.

RESOLUTION THE WORD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA SUPPORTING THE DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE WHEREAS HIGHRIDGE ESTATES IS AN UNDER RESOURCED NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF CLAY COUNTY AND WHEREAS HIGHRIDGE ESTATES IS HOME TO CLAY COUNTY RESIDENTS WHICH INCLUDES STUDENTS, ELDERLY AND VETERANS LIVING IN POVERTY AND WHEREAS THERE EXISTS EFFORT TO CREATE A COMMUNITY SERVICE AND NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND HIGHRIDGE ESTATES AND WHEREAS MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGED IN A DELIBERATIVE PROCESS TO DETERMINE NEEDS THAT WOULD ASSIST WITH THE COMMUNITY'S EFFORTS TO FURTHER TRANSFORM HIGHRIDGE ESTATES AND A THRIVING NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHEREAS THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, DESIRES TO PROVIDE SUPPORT TO THE HIGHRIDGE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE TO IMPROVE HIGHRIDGE ESTATES ALONG WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY INCLUDING THE BUSINESS OWNERS, NONPROFIT AGENCY EMPLOYEES, RESIDENTS, COMMUNITY LEADERS, AND OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA AS FOLLOWS.

THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF CLAY COUNTY FLORIDA SUPPORTS THE HIGHRIDGE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE TO CREATE A COMMUNITY SERVICE AND NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR HIGHRIDGE ESTATES. TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HEREBY COMMITS TO SUPPORTING THE HIGHRIDGE INITIATIVE REQUEST RELATED TO COMMUNITY SAFETY AND AESTHETICS, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND ACCESS TO ESSENTIAL RESOURCES BY WAY OF ALLOCATION OF VARIOUS RESOURCES SUCH AS STAFF SUPPORT, GRANT REQUESTS, CONSIDERATION OF MONETARY FUNDING, AND PUBLIC AWARENESS OF THE INITIATIVE AS WELL AS OTHER EFFORTS THAT WILL FURTHER FULFILL THE REQUEST. DULY ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF

COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THIS 24TH DAY OF JANUARY 2023. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

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THANK YOU. I THINK I SAW MARY LAKE AND TONY BROWN WITHOUT THE KEYSTONE CONTENTION AND I COULD INTRODUCE THEM ALL TO YOU THEY WERE PROBABLY BE EMBARRASSED IF I DID THAT. WE HAD THE HEAD OF THE LAKE ERIE MINISTRIES, TONYA DENNIS, HEAD OF THE STATE OF GRACE NONPROFIT TERRY SAT I INTRODUCED TINA BAKER.

SHE'S THE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP SCHOOLS KEYSTONE HEIGHTS HIGH SCHOOL.

AND THEN WE HAVE MISS GOHEEN WHO IS A LONGTIME WONDERFUL KEYSTONE SUPPORTER AND SWEET.

SHE RAISED ME AS A TEENAGE -- PARTLY RAISED ME AS A TEENAGER. WE HAVE RANDY MANNING WHO WAS A RESIDENT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS AN EMPLOYEE FOR CAMP BLANDING.

WE ARE GLAD YOU ARE HERE. I SKIPPED OVER PEYTON BECAUSE SHE INTRODUCED YOU EARLIER.

WE HAVE LAYLA WHO IS ONE OF THE RESIDENTS AND DID I MISS ANYBODY ELSE? DANA GRANTHAM IS ONE OF THE TEACHERS AT OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND A SUPPORTER AND TEAM MEMBER. ANYONE ELSE THAT I MISSED? THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE

TODAY. >> VERY IMPRESSIVE -- LIME GREEN SHIRTS THAT'S A CHALLENGE TO THE COLLEGE DRIVE SO I WILL BE FILLING YOU IN ON IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WITH A BUNCH OF

YELLOW SHIRTS. >> THAT WILL BE, COLOR A CLICK AWAY TO CLAY B?

[CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS]

CLERK GREEN, YOU'RE UP >> I DON'T HOW TO FOLLOW THAT. THAT IS NOT FAIR. DON'T LIKE

THIS NEW LINEUP. >> -31.964070 DEGREES LATITUDE 152.474250 DEGREES LONGITUDE

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[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

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PROVE TO BE A RELIABLE AND VIABLE PLACE FOR THE B HOTEL. >> NEXT WE HAVE FROM TROOP 31020 MARGARET SCHWEGMAN. OUR TRIP IS ALSO CONSIDERED THE SAFETY OF THE BEES IN HUMANS AS PART OF OUR PROJECT. WE PRESENT TO YOU THE FOLLOWING PROTOCOLS.

THE MINIMUM REQUIRED HEIGHT FROM THE B HOTEL IS 3 TO 5 FEET.

CATS, DOGS, ALLIGATORS, HER TRUE PARTNER WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SWITCHING OUT THE BE TUBE TO PREPARE FOR THE WINTER. OUR TROOP WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING THE TEMPERATURE OF THE B HOTEL EXTREME TEMPERATURES CAN CAUSE THE BEES TO BECOME AGGRESSIVE TO HOT OR LETHARGIC TO CALL THE SAFETY OF HUMANS ARE TROOP WILL PLACE SIGNS WARNING BEES ARE NEAR TO BE ALERT. SIGNS WILL BE PLACED FIVE FEET FROM THE HOTEL NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST A PUBLIC SERVICE ASSIGNMENT 91 THE PARKS IN MAINE WILL BE PLACED IN THE EVENT OF A BEAST CHAIN, THAT IS ALL.

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>> FINALLY WE HAVE FROM TROOP 31020 SOPHIA LEWIS. >> WE HAVE TAKEN THINGS LIKE THE LOCATION OF THE B HOTEL INTO ACCOUNT AND LOCATION WE DECIDED ON WAS AT THE CLARK HOUSE PARK NEAR THE TRAIL BECAUSE IT'S A WAY FOR PEOPLE AND ANY TRAIL WALKERS AND WE WILL TAKE MANY SAFETY PRECAUTIONS LIKE PLACING THE HOTEL 3 TO 5 FEET OFF THE GROUND TO PROTECT IT FROM PREDATORS IN CASE SOMEONE ALLERGIC GETS STONE.

OUR TROOP AS WELL AS OUR PARTNER'S SISTER TROOP WILL BE REGULARLY CHANGING OUT THE TUBES FOR THE SAFETY OF THE BEES. OUR TROOP THANK YOU FOR TAKING

THE TIME TO MEET WITH US AND LISTENING TO OUR IDEAS. >> COMMISSIONER BURKE?

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING, AND OUR PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR JUSTIN PIERCE SAID HE WOULD SEAK TO THEM IN THE LOBBY SO YOU CAN JUST MAKE YOUR WAY OUT THERE TO SEE HIM.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. GREAT PRESENTATION. IF YOU HAVEN'T GOT IN FRONT OF THE MICROPHONE AND SPOKEN, IT'S REALLY INTIMIDATING FOR AN ADULT MUCH LESS SOME GREAT KIDS SO GOOD JOB. NOW SOMEBODY HAS TO FOLLOW THAT.

OUR NEXT PERSON FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IS JANICE MATHENY AND I WILL MENTION WHILE YOU ARE COMING OUT THAT SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO US -- THIS IS REGULAR PUBLIC COMMENT YOU CAN SPEAK ON ANY TOPIC. PLEASE FILL OUT A WHITE CARD AND GET IT TO THE DEPUTIES AND

THEY WILL GET IT TO YOU. SORRY YOU DREW THAT SHORT STRAW >> FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE AND THANK THE FIRE CHIEF. A MONTH AGO HE GAVE ME INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO TRAFFIC FLOW ON 17. AND I WAS SHOCKED TO HEAR THERE WAS 42,000 AVERAGE PER OUR PAST VILLAGESQ., PARKWAY. SO THERE IS A WAWA THAT WANTS TO GO IN AND I HAVE A 500 NAME PETITION AGAINST IT FROM OUR FLEMING ISLAND PLANTATION.

I'M GOING TO THAT MEETING. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WE HAD A PROPANE LEAK ON AUTUMN PLAN AND THAT WAS FOR THE GENERATOR FOR THE AT&T EQUIPMENT, AND THEY CAME OUT THERE WITH FIRE TRUCKS AND A HAZMAT TEAM AND THEY GOT RIGHT ON IT. I REALLY APPRECIATED THAT. I'M A BOARD MEMBER ON AUTUMN CLAN AND AMONG THE MASTER BOARD FOR FLEMING ISLAND PLANTATION. THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSIONERS IF THAT IS EVER BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION ABOUT THE FILLING STATION GOING IN FOR THE ACCESS TO 17. I TALKED TO THE SUPERINTENDENT WITH HASKELL AT THE HOSPITAL A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO AND HE INFORMED ME THAT THEY GOT AN EXIT AND ENTRANCE GOING INTO THE BACK OF THE HOSPITAL ON THE 17TH.

AND THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2020 SO THAT THEY COULD BRING THE AMBULANCE AND VEHICLES IN THERE. SO IN 1200 FEET WE WILL HAVE THE HOSPITAL ENTRANCE AND EXIT ONTO 17 AND WE WILL HAVE VILLAGE SQUARE STOP LIGHT ON TO 17 AND WAWA WANTS TO PUT ONE IN

ABOUT 600 FEET NORTH OF THAT. AND OUR CONCERN -- I'M SORRY. >> YOU HAVE TIME.

IT'S UNTIL IT'S RED >> AND JUST ABOUT DONE. BUT WITHIN THAT DISTANCE, WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE AND MY MAIN CONCERN IS WE HAD A WALKING PATH THERE, THE BLACK CREEK TRL. AND THEY WILL HAVE TO CUT INTO THAT AS WELL AS MY CONCERN PERSONALLY IS WHEN YOU GET A TRUCK THAT IS A GASOLINE TRUCK AND THEY FILL THE TANKS, WHEN THEY PULL OUT, THEY ARE PULLING OUT INTO A 55+ MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT, AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT TRUCK CAN PULL OUT THERE AND PICK UP TO 55 MILE AN HOUR AND GET INTO THE TRAFFIC.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A VERY DANGEROUS INTERSECTION. GOING TO THAT MEETING TONIGHT HOPING THE BOARD WILL VOTE AGAINST IT. IF THEY DO BRING IT TO YOU I

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GOOD DAY. >> OUR NEXT COMMENT IS FROM JAMES BRANNING.

>> I'D RATHER BE CHASING SOMEONE AND BEING BACK IN JAIL. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS LISTENING TO ME. JUST SOMETHING THAT CAME TO US RECENTLY THAT WE FOUND OUT WE GO THROUGH THIS QUITE OFTEN AND WE FIX IT, BUT THIS TIME WAS TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

HIM JAMES BRANNAN I RESIDE AT 535 CYPRESS AVENUE WE OWN THAT HOME HERE AND THE HOME AT 501 WHICH IS THE BELMONT OFFICE. WE'VE BEEN BONDING HERE AND I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR 12 AND SHE'S BEEN DOING IT FOR FOUR. THE LAST JAIL LIST FOR THE BONDSMAN IS SKEWED RIGHT NOW.

WHEN YOU GET ARRESTED YOU HAVE A LIST OF NUMBERS TO CALL AND GET OUT OF THE JAIL OR WHEN YOU ARE ARRESTED YOU CALL SOMEONE WHICH IS THE BAIL BONDS OFFICE IS THE LOCAL BAIL BOND OFFICES HOPEFULLY AND WE GET THE BUSINESS AND WE CAN GET THEM OUT OF JAIL.

RIGHT NOW, IT USED TO BE LOCALS FIRST AND WE HAVE ABOUT 6 TO 7 LOCAL BAIL BOND BUSINESSES AND NOW WE ARE ON A LIST OF 80+ OUT-OF-TOWNERS. IT DOESN'T RESONATE WITH ME AS BEING SAYING BECAUSE IF THERE'S SOMEONE IN JAIL THAT NEEDS TO GET OUT ON A SMALL BOND NO ONE WILL DRIVE UP FROM THAT FAR TO COME BOND AMOUNT MAY NEED TO BE CALLING THE LOCAL NUMBERS FIRST. LOSSES IN THE BUSINESS 30 TO 40 PERCENT OF LOSS DRIVEN OUT OF BUSINESS NOW FOR A MONTH AND HALF AND DIDN'T EVEN KNOW. WE SENT OUT AN EMAIL AND GOT A CALL BACK AND WE ARE PRETTY MUCH SHUT DOWN. IT'S NOT EVEN THE SHERIFF CAN CHANGE IT NOW. I'M AT A LOSS AND WE WERE EXCITED ABOUT HEARING ABOUT THE NEW GROWTH. WE WILL BE PART OF THAT GROWTH AS FAR AS DOING OUR BUSINESS AND EVERY NEIGHBORING COUNTY HAS A LOCAL LIST FIRST, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND THERE'S NO REASON. I'M HEARING A BUNCH OF TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES THAT -- I'M JUST AT A LOSS. AND LOCAL MONEY LEAVING CLAY COUNTY IS LETTING ALL OF THESE OUT-OF-TOWNERS COME IN AND DO THE BUSINESS AND WE ARE LOCAL AND PAY TAXES AND OUR MONEY GOES HERE. WE DON'T LEAVE CLAY COUNTY. WE SERVICE HUNDREDS OF FAMILIES AND THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WE GUIDE THEM THROUGH AND HELP THEM NAVIGATE THROUGH THE COURSES AND NOT EVERYBODY IS A BAD PERSON. I GUESS MINE IS A BASIC STATEMENT WHY ARE OUT-OF-TOWNERS OF THE LIST? THAT'S ALL I NEED TO SAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> MR. DRINKWATER, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK NOW AND ON THAT? ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK FOR REGULAR PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU WERE NOT HERE FOR A SPECIFIC ITEM ON THE AGENDA? YOU CAN COME ON UP. IF YOU WILL TELL US YOUR NAME

AND THEN WHEN YOU ARE DONE YOU CAN TURN -- YOU HAVE THE CARD. >> I LIVED HERE IN MIDDLEBURG FOR 28 YEARS.Y CONDITION HERE -- I MEAN, WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS I'VE LIVED HERE BECAUSE I'VE BEEN IN THE MILITARY WITH MY HUSBAND WORKING AROUND ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND ALSO OVERSEAS AND WE MOVED HERE 28 YEARS AGO AND I WAS A MIAMI RESIDENTS AS A CHILD AND I WANTED TO COME HERE TO LIVE IN THE COUNTY WHERE IT'S PEACEFUL, WHERE THERE'S HUNTING IF YOU WANT, FISHING, AND MY COMPLAINT IS THAT MAYBE I'M NOT LOOKING WHERE I'M SUPPOSED TO, BUT I DON'T SEE WHERE WE ARE VOTING OURSELVES WE WANT ALL OF THIS HOUSING TO COME UP.

THERE'S SO MANY HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS COMING UP AND SEEING THE TREES ON HOW THEY ARE BEING MOWED OVER AND SEE WHERE THE ANIMALS GOING? ARE WE MOVING THEM, KILLING THEM, WHAT ARE WE DOING?OES ANYBODY HAVE A MEETING OF THIS AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MAYBE I NEED TO LOOK FURTHER INTO IT. BUT MY COMPLAINT IS THE OVERBUILDING OF THIS COUNTY.

IT'S TOO MUCH. MY SON WHO WAS A TEACHER FOR EIGHT YEARS, HE WAS IN OAKLEAF AND IN HIGH SCHOOL AND HE QUIT. THERE'S NOTHING TO SUPPORT THE SCHOOLS EITHER.

DO THEY HAVE MONEY FROM ALL OF THE BUILDERS TO COME IN? I JUST WOULD LIKE SOMEBODY TO

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MAYBE I'M WRONG AND I'M MISSING IT BUT CAN YOU TELL ME THAT? WHERE'S THE INFORMATION? WHERE CAN I VOTE? I WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS. I'VE BEEN HERE 28 YEARS AND I DIDN'T KNOW. MAYBE I'M JUST ASLEEP AT THIS. WHAT DO I DO? SO I'M JUST VOTING FOR BUILDING IN THIS PLACE. I WANT MY TOWN.

THANK YOU. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN AND SPEAKING THIS AFTERNOON BUT WE ALSO ARE BOUND BY THE LAW AND PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE RIGHTS. AND SO IF YOU DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO DO SOMETHING WITHIN THEIR LEGAL RIGHTS ON THE PROPERTY, THEN YOUR ONLY OPTION IS TO BUY THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND I KNOW THAT SOUNDS CALLOUS AND WE ARE HERE TO HEAR A LOT OF OTHER THINGS AND I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF YOU ARE HERE AGAINST THINGS ON THE AGENDA TODAY OR ARE YOU MAY BE HERE FOR THINGS THAT ARE ON OUR AGENDA TODAY, BUT IN CLAY COUNTY AND IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE RIGHTS AS WELL AS YOU HAVE RIGHTS ON YOUR PROPERTY THAT YOU DON'T WANT SOMEONE ELSE TO INFRINGE ON.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

TO PULL ANY ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> I MOVE WE APPROVE THE

CONSENT AGENDA AS WRITTEN >> SECOND >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND THE SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. WE ARE NOW AT THE INVESTMENT

[16.  Investment Committee Update (A. Bramlitt)]

COMMITTEE UPDATE. >> AM GOING TO BORROW TERESA'S AREA.

THE FINANCE OFFICER UNDER CLERK GREEN. REAL QUICK, THIS IS A QUARTERLY UPDATE TO THE BOARD COMMITTEE UPDATE AND ALL OF OUR EARNINGS IN THE FOURTH QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 2022. IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2023. SO YOU WILL SEE A VERY DIFFERENT RESULT FOR THE TWO QUARTERS. SO IF WE GO TO THE -- LET ME SEE IF I CAN -- THERE WE GO. OUR INVESTMENT COMMITTEE IS MADE UP OF THE SAME NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE HAD FOR THE LAST YEAR IN TWO OR THREE MONTHS WITH THE EXCEPTION -- WHAT JUST HAPPENED. THAT GERMAN JOIN THE COMMITTEE AS THE CHAIR OF -- CHAIRPERSON WHICH IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR INVESTMENT POLICY. WE DID HAVE A MEETING EARLIER THIS MONTH AND WE DO MEET ONCE 1/4. TO GIVE EVERYBODY AN UPDATE ON THE MARKET, I WILL GO TO THIS QUICKLY BECAUSE I THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING BUT THE FEDERAL RESERVE DID RAISE TARGETED INTEREST RATES FOR THE BANKS IN DECEMBER FOR THE SEVENTH TIME THIS YEAR. THE RANGE IS BETWEEN 4 A FOURTH PERCENT AND 4 1/2 PERCENT. WHILE THAT IS AN INDICATOR, WHAT WE'D SEEN AS INTEREST RATES ON 30 YEAR FIXED-RATE MORTGAGES WE ARE ABOUT 3.14 PERCENT A YEAR AGO AND THEY SURPASSED SEVEN PERCENT IN OCTOBER. IN EARLY JANUARY THEY DID DIP BUT THERE STILL MUCH HIGHER THAN WE'VE SEEN IN SEVERAL YEARS.

THE REASON FOR THIS IS THE FED IS TRYING TO CURVE INFLATION AND YOU CAN SEE JULY, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, ALL WERE OVER EIGHT PERCENT TRENDING DOWN AND THEN THE INFLATION FOR OCTOBER NOVEMBER WAS 7.7 AND 7.1 PERCENT. DECEMBER WASN'T OUT YET AS WE PUT THIS TOGETHER. IT IS DECLINING BUT IT'S NOT HAVING -- TO RAISE AN INTEREST RATES THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS DOING IS NOT HAVING IMPACT ON INFLATION AS THEY WOULD LIKE. THE EMPLOYMENT MARKET IS STAYING STRONG.

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EITHER WAY, INTEREST RATES ARE PROBABLY GOING TO RAISE. SO GIVEN THAT, WE ARE SHORT-TERM IN NATURE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE BOND PORTFOLIO AND ONE OTHER FUND.

WE WILL NOT CHANGE THE MIX OF OUR INVESTMENT STRATEGY HAS WE ARE GOING TO SEE SHORT-TERM INTEREST RATES OUTPACED THE LONGER TERM. AS THOSE START FLIPPING WE MAY LOOK AT GOING TO TERM MORE ON SOME OF OUR MONEY. REAL QUICKLY ON WHERE WE ARE.

THIS CHART REALLY SHOWS WE HAVE OVER $408 MILLION IN OUR CASH AND INVESTMENTS, AND YOU CAN SEE THE QUARTERLY INTEREST WENT FROM $125,603 IN Q1 LAST FISCAL YEAR IN THE LAST QUARTER WHICH IS IN SEPTEMBER 30, 2022, WE PICKED UP $1,571,576. THAT IS 62 PERCENT OF THE INTEREST THAT WE GOT IN FISCAL YEAR 2022. SO THAT'S THAT RISING INTEREST RATE. SO WE HAVE BEEN SEEING THOSE DAILY FUNDS.

THE SUMMARY BY FUND, ARE ALL IN GREEN. WE ARE ALL IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR INVESTMENT POLICY. SO WE'VE GOT THE RIGHT MIX IN HERE AS WELL AS HITTING OUR TARGET INTEREST RATE ON ALL OF OUR FUNDS. THE ONE THING I WILL POINT OUT THE ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES DOES REQUIRE AS FOR OUR LONG-TERM BOND PORTFOLIO INVESTMENT TO MARK THOSE INVESTMENTS TO MARKET, AND WITH THE RISE IN INTEREST RATES, THE INVESTMENTS THAT WE HAVE HAD FOR THE LONG TERM IF WE WERE TO SELL THEM TODAY ARE NOT WORTH WHAT WE PAID FOR THEM. HOWEVER, THAT IS A PORTFOLIO THAT WE WILL HOLD TO TERM.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE WILL GET EVERY ONE OF THESE DOLLARS PLUS SOME BACK WHEN THEY DO MATURE.

SO WHILE THERE IS A $4.339 MILLION BOOK PAPER LOSS, IF YOU WILL LOOK OVER TIME, OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS WE WILL PICK UP $4,847,696 OFF OF THAT VALUE AS OF THAT TIME.

AND YOU WILL SEE A LITTLE LATER THAT THEY HAVE PICKED UP. THAT IS AS THESE ACTUAL INVESTMENTS MATURE. AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT $89.8 MILLION THAT WILL BE MATURING OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS. SO THAT WILL COME BACK ONTO THE POSITIVE, SO WE WILL SEE GAINS. AGAIN, NON-CASH GAINS. THIS IS JUST A CHART AND THE THING THAT HIT ME WHEN I SAW IT DID THIS IS FOR THE FULL YEAR 2022.

THE RANGE OF INTEREST RATES IN 2022 ARE HIGHER THAN I'VE SEEN IN PROBABLY MY CAREER.

SO THEY STARTED OUT AT THE LOW OF LESS THAN ONE PERCENT AND ALMOST ALL OF THE POOLS THAT WE HAVE INVESTMENTS IN, THE AVERAGE HAS BEEN RIGHT AROUND EIGHT PERCENT, WHICH STILL IS NOTHING TO DO CARTWHEELS OVER. BUT THEN HIGH AND THAT IS IN THE LATTER MONTHS IS IN THE 2 TO 3 PERCENT RANGE. THAT WAS AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER.O IF WE MOVE INTO DECEMBER, 2022, VERY DIFFERENT PICTURE. FIRST OFF WE'VE GOT 500 MILLION INVESTMENT AND THAT IS DUE TO THE TIMING OF OUR AD VALOREM TAXES.

WE WILL INVEST THEM SHORT-TERM AND THEN AS WE NEED THEM THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THEM THE SAME DAY AND YOU CAN SEE THE FIRST QUARTER WHICH WILL BE OCTOBER 1 THROUGH DECEMBER 31. YOUR INTEREST IN THE FIRST QUARTER IS $3,234,000 ALMOST DOUBLE WHAT WE GOT THE PREVIOUS QUARTER SO WE HAVE SEEN SIGNIFICANT RISES IN INTEREST RATES. SAME SLIDE HERE. I THINK WE ARE TRENDING TO THE POSITIVE THERE. THE OTHER LONG-TERM WE HAVE PUT A LOT OF OUR AD VALOREM TAXES

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HAVE >> THIS REPORT LOOKS BETTER IN SOME RESPECTS BUT WE ARE BALANCING INFLATION WITH RETURNS AND IT'S HARD TO KEEP UP.

WITH INFLATION AND THE OUTLOOK FOR THE FUTURE LOOKS MORE OF THE SAME WITH RATES INCREASING AND INFLATION GOING FREE. DEBATING SOMEWHAT. WE ARE DOING THE BEST WE CAN

>> ANYTHING ELSE? >> THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW AT OUR 5:00 TIME CERTAIN SPIRIT I'M GOING TO USE CHAIRMAN'S PRIVILEGE AND REARRANGE OUR SCHEDULE SO I KNOW THERE ARE QUITE A FEW COMIC CARDS AND QUITE A FEW OF YOU HERE ON ITEM 27 SO I WILL

[27.  Final Public Hearing to consider adoption of CPA 2022-22. (District 5, Comm. Burke) (B. Carson)]

TO THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP. >> A SMALL-SCALE LAND-USE AMENDMENT THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN DOCTORS INLET RIDGEWOOD PLANNING DISTRICT THE COMMISSION DISTRICT 5 WHICH IS COMMISSIONER BERT'S DISTRICT AND THE APPLICANT ON THIS IS CLAY COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING AND THIS WAS HEARD BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION LAST TUESDAY. I WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS FIRST.

SO BACK IN 99 CAROL BISHOP GRAY WAS THE ORIGINAL OWNER OF THE PARCEL AND SHE SOLD THE LOTS LISTED BELOW -- THE SUBJECT OF TODAY'S DISCUSSION IS THE VERY FIRST ONE AND THAT CURRENT OWNER IS JIM DURANCE AND HE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN DECEMBER 1999.

THE PROPERTY IS VACANT AND HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED. THE NEXTPARCEL AND IS OWNED BY THE FISHERS AND THE NEXT FEW PARCELS ARE OWNED BY MICHAEL HARRISON AND THEY WERE PURCHASED IN 2017 AND 2014 RESPECTIVELY AND THE LAST TWO PARCELS ARE OWNED BY THE BOYDS AND THE GOSS FAMILY AND THOSE WERE PURCHASED BACK IN 2002 AND BUILT IN 2004 AND SIX.

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IF YOU HAD UPLAND AND YOU COULD PRESENT A SURVEY TO THE COUNTY SHOWING THAT THERE WAS NO WETLANDS YOU COULD DEVELOP YOUR PARCEL FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE LOT.

THE MAP ON THE RIGHT IS THE MAP WHEN THE MASTER PLAN WAS DESIGNATED AND WHEN IT CAME IN, IT CAME IN ABOUT 2000 WHICH WAS AFTER SOME OF THESE LOTS WERE CREATED.

IT DESIGNATED THIS AREA AS CONSERVATION AS WELL BUT IT WAS A DIFFERENT KIND OF CONSERVATION AND BRANNAN FIELD MASTER PLAN IS CALLED THE PRIMARY CONSERVATION NETWORK AND IT DOES NOT WORK THE SAME. WE CAN'T HAVE APPLICANTS COME TO US WITH WETLAND SURVEYS.

IT REQUIRES THAT YOU AS A BOARD CHANGE THE MAP IF THERE'S A NEED TO CHANGE THE MAP.

WE AS STAFF CANNOT DO IT. AND THIS IS SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE CTM INCLUDES MOST CREEKS AND STREAMBANKS MAJOR DRAINAGE WAYS MAJOR WETLANDS, ETC., THE FLOODPLAIN IS DRAINAGE SYSTEMS AND HEADWATERS IN TRIBUTARIES AND PRESENTS BLOCKS, FENCES, SIMILAR USES BUT NOT HOUSES. THE BOUNDARY IS INTENDED TO BE A MINIMUM OF 200 FEET IN WIDTH OR 25 FEET FROM THE JURISDICTIONAL WETLAND LINE WHICHEVER IS GREATER.

SO THE DIRECT PARCEL FOR THIS APPLICATION IS SHOWN HERE AND THIS ENTIRE SUBDIVISION ARE THE PARCELS TO THE LEFT AS WELL AS THIS PARCEL WITH THIS STRANGE OUTLINED AREA ATTACHED.

THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL FIVE ACRE LOT SUBDIVISION THE FIRST ONE WAS SPLIT WHICH WAS NOTED ON THE FIRST TABLE. IT IS A PROBLEM DEFINITELY 5.24 ACRES IN THE EXISTING LAND -- IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT MAP THE MAP ON THE LEFT IS THE EXISTING LAND USE THE GREEN HATCH IS THE PRIMARY CONSERVATION. MAKE THIS RIGHTS IN THE EXISTING HOUSES AND FUTURE VACANT LOTS COULD BE BUILT UPON BY THE HOMEOWNERS. SO THAT WAS DESIGNATED BRANNAN FIELD PRIMARY CONSERVATION NETWORK AT THE TIME. WE DID NOT INCLUDE THIS FOR THIS PARCEL BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS PRIMARILY FLOODPLAIN AND WE DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS ANY AFFLUENCE ON IT. LIMITED OUR MAILING WHICH IS ALWAYS TO 350 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY, THE CURRENT OWNER OF THIS PARCEL CAME IN AND CONTACTED WITH AND ASKED THAT HE HAVE BEEN CONSIDERING. THAT'S THE REASON WERE BRINGING THIS ONE FORWARD. THE MAP ON THE RIGHT IS THE CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT.

ALL OF BRANNAN FIELD'S UNDER THIS PUD. THE NEXT MAP ARE THE SOILS MAP AND THE FLOOD ZONE MAP. YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS ENTIRE AREA AS PART OF THE FLOODWAY AS IS PROPERTIES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF BLACK CREEK. THE OTHER SIDE OF BLACK CREEK ARE -- WE HAVE OTHER UNFLATTERING SUBDIVISIONS LIKE OAKLAND AND I BELIEVE GOVERNOR! IS THE SET OF PARCELS TO THE SOUTH AND THAT IS ALSO IN THE SUBDIVISION.

YOU SEE THIS AREA IN GENERAL HAS LOTS OF FLOODWAY. THE SURROUNDING LAND TYPE

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THE EFFECT OF THIS CHANGE, THE PARCEL IS LOCATED WITHIN URBAN SERVICE AREA IS CURRENTLY SERVED BY SEWER AND THERE WAS A SEWER LINE PUT INTO SERVICE FIVE LOT SUBDIVISION.

SOLID WASTE CAPACITY IS AVAILABLE TRAFFIC IS BASED ON THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS OF THE SITE WHICH IS BASED ON THE NPC STANDARD OF ONE DWELLING UNIT PER THREE GRAMS ACRES TO 6 DWELLING UNITS WITH AN AVERAGE OF FIVE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

THIS CALCULATION IS BASIC AND IT IS BASED EXCLUSIVELY ON THE FIVE ACRE PORTION THAT'S DEVELOPABLE AND ANYTHING THAT IS BRANNAN FIELD PCN IS NOT FACTORED INTO ANY CALCULATION BECAUSE IT IS NOT DEVELOPABLE. STORMWATER MANAGEMENT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED ON SITE.

SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE THAT THE PROPOSED LAND USE WOULD CHANGE THIS LOT ONLY.

THE UPLAND PORTION OF IT WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED BY THE SURVEY.

AS SINGLE-FAMILY SUBDIVISION INTENDED IN 1999 IT WOULD CHANGE IT TO MPC AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION AFTER MEETING LAST TUESDAY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL 6 TO 1 SUBJECT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER ENTERING INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY TO

COMBINE DEVELOPMENT TO AND SINGLE-FAMILY HOME. >> PROPERTY OWNER MAY BE HERE

>> QUESTIONS? >> COMMISSION NUMBER? >> AND BETH, I ALWAYS TELL YOU THAT I DON'T SPEAK YOUR KIND OF TALK. AM GOING TO KIND OF GO BACK A LITTLE BIT.

IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE MAP THAT HAS A TON OF GREEN -- I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE THAT WAS.

SO I WANT TO KIND OF BACKTRACK TO WHEN THESE HOMES ON MANATEE POINTE WERE BUILT WAY BACK WHEN. WHY WERE THEY ALLOWED TO BE BUILT?

CAN YOU TELL US JUST A SIMPLE -- >> BACK TO THE TIME IN 99 THIS WAS DESIGNATED AS CONSERVATION LAND. AND WITH THAT WE ALLOWED -- IF YOU BROUGHT INTO THE COUNTY EVIDENCE THAT THERE WAS UPLAND NOT JUST CONSERVATION AND NOT JUST EXCLUSIVELY WETLANDS BUT THERE WAS UPLAND LAND THAT COULD BE DEVELOPABLE AND IF YOU HAD A PORTION THAT WAS LARGE ENOUGH TO HAVE YOUR HOUSE AND HAVE YOUR APPROPRIATE SETBACKS, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO BUILD ONE SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE ON THAT PROPERTY

>> OKAY. SO THREE HOMES WERE BUILT AND THERE'S TWO LOTS -- I BELIEVE IN BETWEEN THOSE THREE HOMES AND MR. GANTZ PROPERTY IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT.

SO WHENEVER WE ON DECEMBER 13, I BELIEVE WE WENT AND APPROVED INTO THE BRANNAN FIELD NETWORK, THE HOMES. WHY DID WE DO THAT? CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT?

WHAT DID THAT DO FOR THESE PEOPLE. >> OUTSIDE OF THAT 5.4 ACRES OF

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SHE COULDN'T PUT THAT OTHER PARCEL IN THEIR BUT I WANTED TO CONSERVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD OBVIOUSLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT -- WHEN I BOUGHT A PRODUCT TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS ZONE WHEN I BOUGHT IT. WOULD LIKE TO GIVE CONSIDERATION OF IT LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SPLIT THE LAND AND DEVELOP IT -- I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE BUT I WOULD CONSENT TO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT

>> YOU ARE SAYING YOU WOULD AGREE TO SIGN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THE REST OF IT WE DEVELOPED? >> SOMETHING SIMILAR. I LIKE FOR MORE THAN TWO.

>> THIS IS MY DISTRICT AND I LOVE THE AREA. I LOVE THE CREEK LOVE THE PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT AND ON THEIR BEHALF I WOULD SAY THANK YOU FOR NEGOTIATING ON BEING WILLING TO ABLE TO ACCEPT THAT I KNOW IT'S BEEN A HARD SITUATION FOR YOU AND I DON'T TRUST ALL OF IT EITHER SO YOU ARE NOT ALONE IN THAT. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THAT, AT

LEAST. >> THANKS FOR TRYING TO WORK WITH US ON THIS.

WHAT CHANGED FROM THE PLANNING MEETING A WEEK AGO ON TUESDAY WHICH YOU AGREED TO DO AND YOU

JUST MENTIONED THREE. WHERE ARE WITH US? >> AT THE PLANNING MEETING I AGREED TO ONE AND I'M NOT AWARE THAT THAT I DID THAT I WATCHED THE VIDEO.

I'M GOING BY YOUR WORDS. >> I DIDN'T SAY THAT. MY DAUGHTER SEND OUT

>> I APOLOGIZE WHAT YOU AGREED TO IT. WHEN I SAY YOU, YOU'RE SORT OF

A TEAM >> YES. FIRST OF ALL, IF WE DID SAY ONE AT THAT POINT WE THOUGHT THERE WAS AN AIR SPLIT. LET THEM IT WAS SUGGESTED I MIGHT JUST DUE TO THE MISTAKE OF COMPROMISE. I HATE CONFLICT AND I WOULD LIKE THREE. IF I GOT 5.4 ACRES OF UPLAND WHEN I PUT IT INTO THREE PARCELS, EACH PARCEL WOULD BE 1.8 ACRES. THAT'S NOT HIGH DENSITY.

OUR NEIGHBORS WILL MANATEE POINTE DRIVE ARE SELLING LOTS AND THEY ARE NOWHERE NEAR THAT SIZE. I WOULD LIKE THREE BUT UNWILLING TO SETTLE FOR TWO RISER BE SO MUCH OPPOSITION I'VE BEEN SPEAKING TO MR. BRANDT'S AND I WATCHED THE VIDEO WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, BUT NOAH'S DAUGHTER AND SON THEY WERE DOING PROPERTY WHEN SHE CAME UP AT THE END AND SAID SHE DIDN'T WANT TO MUCK IT UP FOR MY UNDERSTANDING AFTER THE MEETING WAS OVER, THEY DISCUSSED HAVING MORE THAN ONE AND KNOW THAT WOULD BE OF THAT TIME BY KNOW WHAT I UNDERSTOOD WAS THAT WAS CONTINGENT ON HE WOULD AGREE TO THAT.

BUT IT'S CLEAR YOU'RE SAYING YOU WOULD AGREE TO 2. >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?

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IS IT AARON SAWYER OR SAYER? >> MY NAME IS AARON SAYER MY HUSBAND GLENN AND I RESIDE AT 2100 SPINNAKER CT. MIDDLEBURG ARE PROPERTY SITUATED ON THE NORTH PRONG OF BLACK CREEK ABOUT FOUR MILES DOWN THE CREEK FROM THE CONCERT LAND THAT IS CURRENTLY IN JEOPARDY. THE LAND THAT'S BEEN CONCERNED FOR OVER 20 YEARS LAST WHY NOW.

WHAT HAS CHANGED TO SUDDENLY MAKE THIS LAND NOT WORTH CONSERVING.

I'VE HEARD THE BOARD'S COMMENTS ON THE ORIGINAL ZONING POSSIBLY BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE AIR AND POSSIBLY IS A WORD I'M HEARING A LOT AND IT DOESN'T GIVE ME A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN MY LOCAL GOVERNMENT OR THE PROCESS. I'M HERE TO TELL YOU I DON'T BUY THAT FOR ONE MINUTE.

COMMON SENSE SHOULD TELL EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BUY IT EITHER.

23 YEARS TO FIX AN ADMINISTRATIVE AIR, 23 YEARS WITH THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY TO GET ADMINISTRATIVE ERA RESOLVED AND WHY NOW. IT IS BECAUSE MANATEE POINTE WAS RESUMED LAST MONTH TO ALLOW FOR MULTIPLE DWELLINGS PER ACRE? IS IT BECAUSE HERE IN CLAY COUNTY WE ARE ENJOYING OUR HIGHEST PROPERTY VALUES TO DATE WHICH RESULTS IN INCREASED TAX REVENUE AND IN THIS CASE AT THE EXPENSE OF DESTROYING CONSERVATION LAND. WHAT A SHAME. AS A SIDE NOTE I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE CURRENT OWNER WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING BACK TAXES SINCE HE HAS SURELY BEEN ENJOYING THE TAX BREAKS THAT COME ALONG WITH OWNING CONSERVATION LAND MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS REZONING WILL ULTIMATELY RESULT IN THE WORST FLOODING BLACK CREEK HAS EVER SEEN. 100 YEAR FLOOD LIKE THE ONE THAT DEVASTATED THIS COMMUNITY IN 2017 WILL BECOME REGULAR OCCURRENCES IF WE CONTINUE TO IMPEDE THE FLOODWAY.

DECISIONS TO REZONE AREAS THAT IMPACT THE ENTIRECOMMUNITY SHOULD NOT BE MADE BASED ON WHAT IS SINGLE LAND OWNER WANTS AND WHAT HE SAYS HE'S PLANNING TO DO WITH IT WHICH SEEMS TO CHANGE ON A DAILY BASIS.OUR JOB IS TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND WE ARE YOUR CONSTITUENTS. YOU APPROVE THIS REZONING YOU ARE SETTING A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT. I AM FOR THIS BOARD TO TAKE THE TIME TO EDUCATE YOURSELVES ON THE IMPACT THIS COULD HAVE ON OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY FROM THE RISK OF RISING WATER LEVELS TO THE DISPLACEMENT AND POTENTIAL ENDANGERMENT OF THE PLANT ANIMAL SPECIES THAT MAKE CLAY COUNTY SUCH A SPECIAL PLACE TO LIVE. I ASKED THAT YOU CONSIDER THESE IMPACTS BASED NOT ON WHAT THE CURRENT LANDOWNER TELLS YOU HE'S GOING TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY BUT WHAT COULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN BASED ON WHAT A REZONING OF THIS LAND WOULD

ALLOW AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION >> NEXT WE HAVE TOBY ANDERSON

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>> THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK NAVY COMMANDER RETIRED AND MOVED BACK TO THE AREA IN 2013 AFTER 23 YEARS OF NAVY SERVICE. I WASN'T HERE IN 1999 RELATED THE ORIGINAL PROBABLY TRAVESTY OF MAKING MANATEE POINTE SUBDIVISION BUT THAT THE GREEN AREA ARE BROUGHT EARLIER A PICTURE AND SO THE COMMISSIONERS CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT EVERYBODY BE ABLE TO SEE THE ACTUAL NATURE THAT WILL BE DESTROYED IN THIS PROCESS. THIS IS A PICTURE FROM ACROSS THE STREET AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WILDLIFE AND THERE'S A BALD EAGLE THAT SITS RIGHT WHERE THE MIDDLE OF THE WORD SITE SITS ON THE PROPERTY BECAUSE HE PRETTY PMUCH HAS UNFETTERED ACCESS TO THAT WHOLE GREEN AREA TO HUNT AND DO WHATEVER EAGLES DO.

SOME OF THE POINTS I WANTED TO SAY WAS WHEN THE LANDOWNER BOUGHT THIS LAND IT WAS ZONED ONE HOUSE PER ONE LOT AND SOMEHOW IN THE -- WITHOUT RESIDENTS REALIZING THAT THEY WENT BACK AND MADE THIS PART OF THE INCREASED ZONING THERE SO WHETHER OR NOT MANATEE POINTE SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN MIGHT BE THE ORIGINAL ARGUMENT.

IT'S THE LAST CONTIGUOUS. IT STARTS RIGHT THERE AND IT'S A CONTIGUOUS CONSERVATION LOAN ALL THE WAY TO ST. JOHNS RIVER ON THAT SIDE OF THE CREEK SO YOU ARE BASICALLY STARTING TO CUT INTO WHAT IS IN THE CONSERVATION ZONE AND CUTTING OUT THE ANIMALS PLACES.

AND THE LAST THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AND THERE WAS TALK DURING THE PLANNING ADVISORY MEETINGS ABOUT HOW IT MIGHT BE A FLOODWAY BUT IT'S NEVER FLOODED AND I HAVE A PICTURE HERE. I DON'T HAVE A VERY GOOD ONE BASICALLY DURING IRMA AND IT SHOWS PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE MANATEE POINTE WAS UNDERWATER. THERE WAS NO DRYLAND FROM THE HENLEY BRIDGE ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE WHOLE PENINSULA. USE TO MAKE IT BUILDABLE AS MUCH AS THEY CAN. THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN SLOW THIS DOWN IS TO RECONSIDER SAVING

HIS CONSERVATION LINE. >> NEXT WE HAVE ROBIN SHETLER >> MY NAME IS ROBIN SHETLER AND I RESIDE AT 2896 OAKLAND DOCTOR MY EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND IS MOLECULAR BIOLOGY IN A STUDY MORE CLOSELY IN THE FIELD OF ENVIRONMENTAL DIAGNOSTICS AND REMEDIATION AS WELL AS HAVING PREVIOUSLY TAUGHT THE SCIENCES FOR SEVEN YEARS IN THE CLAY COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT.

I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT THIS MEETING ISN'T REALLY ABOUT BUILDING A SINGLE HOME ON CONSERVED LAND BUT IT IS QUITE LITERALLY THE PROCESS OF OPENING I COULD STAND HER PROVIDE YOU WITH THE SCIENCE AS TO WHY EVEN A SINGLE DWELLING ON THIS CONSERVED LAND WOULD HAVE DELETERIOUS EFFECTS. OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A TIME. INSTEAD I WILL COMMUNICATE TO YOU THAT THE ZONING OF THIS LAND FROM CONSERVED WILL SIMPLY HASTEN THE STRUCTURE OF THIS WILL BE RELOCATED TRANSLOCATION MIGHT MITIGATION SIMPLY DOES NOT WORK.

STUDIES PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF RELOCATED SPECIES UNDERGO INTENSE STRESS WHICH AFFECTS OUR ABILITY MUCH LESS REPRODUCE LAND SPACE. WILL MORE LIKELY OFTEN RESULT IN A LOSER OFTEN A NEWCOMER ONLY IS VERY LAST RESORT IN MY MIND TRUE INTENT OF THE REZONING DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A LAST RESORT. THIS REZONING IS SUCCESSFUL FLOODING ESPECIALLY IN THE PRONGS CONTINUE TO BE MORE MORE PREVALENT NATIVE WILDLIFE TO INCLUDE PLANTS, ANIMALS, AND COMPETE FOR AIR, FOOD, SHELTER, WATER WE ARE INTRODUCING ANOTHER COMPETITOR INTO THIS LAND SPACE WE ARE ALSO COMPETING FOR THE SAME LIMITED RESOURCE. WHO IN THIS COMPETITIVE RESOURCE WILL WHEN? YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION.T'S NO MATCH FOR US.

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THE HUMAN SPECIES. >> EVEN GAINED NATIONAL NEWS COVERAGE DURING HURRICANE IRMA AND RECENT REASOR'S BECAUSE OF THE DAMAGING EFFECTS ON BLACK CREEK.

THIS IS CONSERVATORY BECAUSE ACTS AS A FLOODING SHOCK ABSORBER AND ALLOWS THE CREEK TO TAKE A PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE PART OF BLACK CREEK WHERE 180 DEGREES TURN IS PRESENT YOU ADD SALT TO THE WOUND TROWBRIDGE NEW QUICKLY SEE WE COULD BE IN A FLOODING DISASTER RAPIDLY. HONESTLY, IT'S OUR MOST FRAGILE PART OF THE COUNTY IF THEY CALLED FOR WILDLIFE THEY DON'T STAND A CHANCE IN THE BIODIVERSITY WORLD WHEN THEY ARE IMPEDED UPON BY HUMAN BEINGS. THE LANDOWNER'S INTENT BEFORE I CAME UP HERE AT PRESENT OF THE LANTERN WITH A CARD FROM CAMEL AND SHE WAS AT THE MEETING THIS MORNING 2 TO SCARE YOU SHE IS A BRIDGE BETWEEN NOW AND THEM AND I HOPE -- I IMPLORE THE LANDOWNER TO REACH OUT AND WE CAN FIND A SOLUTION PICK THEM ASKING YOU TO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTACT THEM BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION AND ASKING FOR CONTINGENCIES TO ALLOW THE SKY TO REACH OUT AND YOU MIGHT FIND A SOLUTION THAT WORKS TO MAKE HIM WHOLE AGAIN AND REALLY SOLVE THE PROBLEM WE ALL POSE HERE AND MAINTAIN THIS CONSERVATIVE AREA.

I CERTAINLY HOPE YOU REALIZE I'M HAPPY TO BE A MEMBER OF CLAY COUNTY.

>> ALLISON BRAMLETT. >> MY NAME IS ALLISON BRAMLETT I LIVE AT 359 LAKE ASBURY

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A COMMENT WAS MADE ABOUT CITIZENS BEING ALLOWED TO DO WHAT THEY WANT AND I JUST WANT TO STATE WE LIVE ON A MAD MADE EARTH AND DAM AND WE ARE LIMITED IN SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO ON THE PROPERTY INCLUDING REMOVING TREES, PUTTING IN THE SWIMMING POOL IF WE WANTED TO SO NOT EVERYONE AND ALSO WE HAVE TO ANSWER TO A LOT OF OTHER AGENCIES IN ORDER TO BUILD BULKHEADS AND DAMS AND OTHER THINGS ON THE PROPERTY AND I HAVE FRIENDS THAT HAVE DONE SOME THINGS TO THEIR PROPERTY THAT THEY ARE NOW BEING TOLD HAVE TO GO BACK AND REDO. SO THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE. I HAD A BIG LONG THING OF THINGS I WANTED TO SAY THAT I AM ACROSS FROM ONE OF THE VERY LARGE PARCELS OF LAND OF THE NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST PURCHASE AND I WAS UNABLE TO MAKE IT TO THE MEETING THIS MORNING BUT I WATCHED IT AND I JUST KINDA WANT TO PIGGYBACK OFF WHAT RICH SAID AND CAN WE HAVE MORE TIME? IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN GO BACK AND WORK WITH THE NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST AND PUT THINGS IN ACTION HE WAS SPEAKING ABOUT AND ACQUIRE THIS LAND MAKE HIM WHOLE? I JUST -- I DEFINITELY SEE BOTH SIDES OF IT AND I AGREE THAT I DO HAVE SYMPATHY FOR SOMEONE GOING UP AGAINST AND I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION WANT TO READ A FEW LINES. FLORIDA I KNOW YOU'RE OUT THERE HIDING FROM ME YOU GET HARDER AND HARDER TO FIND. EVERYDAY SHE KEEPS SLIPPING AWAY.

SO TAKE A GOOD LUCK AND REMEMBER IT NOW BECAUSEONE DAY YOU'RE GOING TO WAKE UP AND FIND IT GONE. TODAY THOUSANDS OF CLAY COUNTY CITIZENS WITNESSING DAILY THE COMPLETE DESTRUCTION OF OUR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT FOR THE SAKE OF DEVELOPMENT AT ALL COSTS AND ONLY SCRATCHES THE SURFACE WE KNOW THAT CHANGE IS INEVITABLE AND EVERY PERSON ON THIS ROOM THAT LIVES ON LAND THAT WAS CHERISHED. WE DON'T WANT TO STOP EVERY PIECE OF LAND FROM BEING BUILT OR TREATMENT BEING TORN DOWN WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE THE PLACE WE LIVE IN IS STILL A NICE PLACE TO LIVE IN IS STILL SOMEWHAT RECOGNIZABLE AND WE HAVE NOT DESTROYED ALL THE THINGS THAT MAKE US WANT TO

LIVE HERE TO BEGIN WITH. >> MARY MCCARTHY > AND MARY MCCARTHY AND I WAS AT THE LAST MEETING AND SAID A FEW WORDS OF HAD A LITTLE TIME TO LOOK AT THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS FROM THE AGENDA AND I CAME UP WITH A FEW QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ON PAGE 1044 OF THE AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING TO CORRECT A BELIEVED MAPPING ERROR SO I THOUGHT BELIEVED WAS KIND OF QUESTIONABLE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN STATED AS SUCH WITH A MORE DEFINITIVE WORD SO I THINK THAT KIND OF OPENS -- THE TIMEFRAME THAT WAS INVOLVED IN PURCHASING THE PROPERTY AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DEVELOP IT IS QUITE A WHILE AND A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

I MOVED ON TO BLACK CREEK AND MOVED ACROSS FROM THIS PROPERTY AND I SEEN A CONSTANT BUILDING IN THIS AREA AND ESPECIALLY IN THIS WATERSHED AREA HAS AFFECTED MY PROPERTY AND ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS EACH YEAR THE WATER IS RISING IS GETTING DEEPER AND DEEPER IN THE LAST

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IN THE BRANDON FIELD -- I TOOK THE LIBERTY OF PRINTING IT OUT THE BRANNAN FIELD MASTER PLAN ALSO IN THE CONSERVATION PORTION OF IT IT STATES THAT THE OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES STATED ON PAGE 28 AND 29 IN REGARDS TO THE ELEMENT GOALS TO BE FOLLOWED IN LINE -- NATURAL HABITATS WETLANDS PRESERVATION AND FLOODPLAINS WETLANDS, UPLAND ÃUPLAND NATIVE VEGETATION COMMUNITIES AND WILDLIFE WITHIN THAT THIS IS THE JOB TO PROTECT THIS AND NOT TO EXPLOIT IT. I THINK WITH ALL OF US LIVING IN FLORIDA AND OUR INSURANCE RISING UP HIGHER IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE EVERY TIME WE FILL IN ANY OF THESE AREAS THAT WE LIVE WITH. IF YOU COULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, WE WOULD REALLY

APPRECIATE IT. >> I DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? SEEING ON I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.

>> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I'M NOT READY TO MAKE A MOTION AT ANY POINT IN TIME BUT I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND PERHAPS WE CAN LOOK BACK. IN 1999, DECEMBER OF THAT YEAR, 2000 JANUARY WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE MR. GRANTS ABOUT HIS LOT, WHAT WAS THE ZONING FOR

THAT PARTICULAR AREA? >> THE PARCEL IS ZONED RA -- AR >> I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION IT DEPENDS ON THE LAND USE I DO NOT HAVE THAT AND PERHAPS MIKE BROWN HAS IT.

IT ALLOWS SINGLE-FAMILY AND WITH THE AR AND RURAL RESIDENTIAL MAXIMUM DENSITY ONE UNIT PER FIVE ACRES WHICH IS PRETTY TYPICAL FOR RURAL RESIDENTIAL SO THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE ABOUT WHY DID WE NOT PICK A DIFFERENT BRANDON FIELD THAT THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS FOUR ACRES. SO BECAUSE WE ARE DESIGNATING UPLAND PORTIONS OF THESE LOTS, THE LOTS WULD NOT QUALIFY. THEY ARE NOT FOUR ACRES IN SIZE.

THE OTHER LOTS, THIS LOT, OBVIOUSLY IS OVER THE FIVE ACRES.

WE COULD NOT GO WITH THE RURAL SUBURBS SO THAT'S WHY WE MET WITH THE BRANNAN FIELD MASTER

PLANNED COMMUNITY. >> BOTTOM LINE IS IF -- AND MR. SHETLER BROUGHT AT THIS POINT THAT PEOPLE THAT PURCHASE THOSE LOTS AT THE TIME WERE GIVEN A THREE YEAR GRACE PERIOD TO

EITHER BUILD OR TURN IN.O WE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? >> WE DO NOT BECAUSE THE MASTER PLAN CAME IN AND IT CAME IN IN DIFFERENT WAVES CAME IN AS SPECIFIED SPECIFIC AREA PLAN THE REZONING OF THE PARCELS DID NOT OCCUR UNTIL 2004 SO I CAME IN PHASES OVER A GREAT DEAL OF

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TIME. >> SO IN 2004 WHAT DID IT GET RESUMED ASS.

>> IN 2004 GOT RE-ZONED AS BRANNAN FIELD PCL AS BRANNAN FIELD PUD.

>> BOTTOM LINE THE OTHER LOTS THAT ARE NOT BUILT ON THIS LOT IF THEY CAME IN AND WANTED TO

FILE A BUILDING PERMIT TOMORROW THEY COULD DO THAT >> THEY COULD DO THAT AS WELL.

BECAUSE WE HAVE ENTITLED THEM WITH THE ABILITY. THEY ARE NONRESIDENTIAL SO THERE'S TWO LOTS THAT WE DID THIS FORM. HE COULD COME IN AND PERMIT AND

THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THIS WHOLE EXERCISE. >> WHEN HE BOUGHT THE LOTS ORIGINALLY, THOUGH, THEY RESUMED SO HE COULD BUILD THE PURCHASE ON THEM

>> AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MR. HARRISON'S PROPERTY SO THEY WERE BRANDON FIELD PCM AND BECAUSE MY GUESS IS IT'S THE RESIDENTIAL COULD BE BUILDING PERHAPS YOU DIDN'T CHECK AND FIND OUT THEY WERE PCN BUT NOW HE CAN BECAUSE YOU MADE THE CHANGE FOR THOSE PARCELS

>> AND THE CHANGE WE MADE WAS THIS PAST DECEMBER WHEN WE TOOK ALL OF THOSE AS A LOT

>> THAT'S CORRECT >> AND WE MADE THOSE LOTS AND I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT

BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T HERE IN 1999 AND 2000 >> TECHNICALLY I WAS BUT I WAS

NOT INVOLVED WITH THE BRANNAN FIELD MASTER PLAN >> YOU ARE RE-CREATING AS WE GO

FOLLOWING THE PAPER TRAIL >> AND IS A BEAR TO UNDERSTAND >> I THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE TO POINT OUT. OUR STAFF IS VERY PROFESSIONAL AND THESE PEOPLE DO THIS FOR A LIVING. MOST OF THEM HAVE MASTERS DEGREES AND PLANNING AND LAND USE AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE IN THE CASE OF MS. CARSON AND THEY USE WORDS LIKE BELIEF BECAUSE NO ONE ON STAFF TODAY WAS HERE WHEN THE MASTER PLAN WAS WRITTEN OR PASSED.

SO PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THEY ARE DOING THE BEST HE CAN THERE JUST TRYING TO DO THEIR JOBS.

THEY ARE NOT NEFARIOUS AND THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW THE LAW AND SO THEY CHOOSE THOSE WORDS BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT THE ONES HERE AND THEY DON'T KNOW FOR A FACT.

THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY MINUTES AGO ALONG WITH THE >> IT WAS PRETTY DIFFICULT WHEN

YOU ARE IN HERE >> MR. SHETLER BROUGHT UP HIS -- HE PRINTED OUT -- IT SAYS THE BRANNAN FIELD MASTER PLAN EXHIBIT L FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR 2025 AND BRANDON FIELD COUNTY WILL -- BRANNAN FIELD POLICY 2.3 UNDER OBJECTIVE THE COUNTY WILL DEVELOP IT'S ON PAGE ONE OF EXHIBIT L. I WILL GIVE THIS BACK TO YOU.

I DON'T WANT YOU TO KILL ANY MORE TREES. YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF PAPER HERE.

>> IT SAYS VF POLICY 2.3. THAT'S THE POLICIES HAVE BEEN RENUMBERED.

THEY ALL HAVE ONES IN FRONT OF THEM. >> WHEN YOU READ THAT IT GAVE ME -- I INTERPRETED THAT AND I'M NOT A LAWYER OR A PLANNER AND WITH MY BEST PUBLIC SCHOOL YEARS I LEARNED YOU HAD A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THREE YEARS TO DO WHATEVER HE

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COMES TO READING AGREEMENTS FROM 20 YEARS AGO >> I WILL SAY I THOUGHT I HEARD BETH SAY ZONING WAS NOT CHANGED UNTIL 2004. SO HE MAY HAVE HAD AR ZONING UNTIL 2004 WHEN THOSE OTHERS WERE CHANGED BUT THEN THEY ALSO HAD THE CONSERVATION OVERLAY AND IT'S VERY COMPLICATED. OTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO SOME SORT OF EXPERT THEY RECOMMENDED YOU SPEAK TO AND I DIDN'T CATCH WHAT KIND OF EXPERT THAT WAS. NOR WHAT THE EXPECTATION WOULD

BE OUT OF THE CONVERSATION AND THAT REGARD. >> DO YOU WANT THE PROPERTY

OWNER TO ANSWER THAT? >> WHOMEVER KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION.

I DON'T REALLY CARE. >> THE EXPERT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WAS THE MEMBER THAT WAS HERE FROM THE NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST THIS MORNING HER NAME IS KIM HALL AND THAT PRESENTED THE DAUGHTER AND THE LANDOWNER AND THE CONTACT INFORMATION OF THAT INDIVIDUAL WHO I TALKED TO THIS MORNING. SHE SAID THERE MAY BE A BRIDGE TO WHERE WE ARE HEADED AS A REPRIMAND IN THE COUNTY IN 2025 TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. OBVIOUSLY, TODAY WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE DECISIONS ON THINGS IN FRONT OF YOU. THAT'S THE CONVERSATION I

WANTED TO PASS ALONG >> MY QUESTION IS WHAT THAT BE AN OPTION? SO MAYBE WE COULD CONTINUE THIS TO INVESTIGATE OR IS THAT NOT AN OPTION?

>> EVERYTHING IS AN OPTION.

FOR HIM HE WOULD NEED TO COME UP >> THERE'S BEEN CONFUSION.

I'VE HAD SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TOLD ME YOU SAID YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SELLING AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT. IS NOT AN OPTION, THEN? I HAVEN'T HEARD YOU SAY THAT

PERSONALLY >> WE WOULD NEED YOU TO COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE IF YOU DON'T

MIND >> OR ARE YOU CANNOT ANSWER. IT'S UP TO YOU.

I HAVE A LITTLE VERTIGO. THIS IS ALL NEW TO ME. I HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF CHANCE TO THINK ABOUT IT BUT I THINK I MADE A STATEMENT. I DON'T WANT TO STICK OUT LIKE

A THORN AND I WAS MADE WHOLE WITH MONEY I WOULD CONSIDER IT. >> TO ME THAT MEANS HE DOESN'T FOR SURE KNOW HE WANTS TO BUILD ON IT > IT'S VERY CLEAR HIS NEIGHBORS DON'T WANT HIM THERE

>> I DON'T WANT TO BUILD ON IT AND MY NEIGHBORS PROBABLY DON'T WANT ME TO BUILD ON IT.

I WENT TO PICK ENABLE >> YOUR PROPERTY SO WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO DO

>> WELL, I PREFER, YOU KNOW, AS PRESENTED LIKE TO ENTER INTO A DEVELOPMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY AND HAVE TWO PARCELS BECAUSE I THINK WHAT MY DAUGHTER SAID LAST WEEK WHEN SHE SAID ONE, SHE ALSO CAME BACK AND SAID TO AND THAT'S WHEN SHE KIND OF GOT BOOED WHEN SHE TALKED ABOUT A FAMILY COMPOUND AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE TWO PARCELS OUT OF IT.

BUT THAT'S MY WISHES. BUT I WOULD CONSIDER ANYTHING THAT'S REASONABLE.

>> I MEAN, IT'S HIS OPTION OF WHAT HE WOULD LIKE TO DO. WE CAN'T MAKE THAT DECISION.

>> MY COMMENT IS THIS. NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST, THEIR BUSINESS IS TO BUY LAND AND KEEP IT IN PRESERVATION FOR PERPETUITY. SO WITH THAT IS AN OPTION THAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER, MIGHT IT WANT TO TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO INVESTIGATE THAT OPTION?>

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YES. >> SO IT'S A BIT COMPLICATED BECAUSE THE LANDOWNER DID NOT

BRING THE APPLICATION >> THAT'S TRUE >> SO IF THE LANDOWNER WOULD LIKE THE COUNTY TO WITHDRAW THIS FROM CONSIDERATION TO GIVE HIM TIME, IS THAT A POSSIBILITY, OR WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO WITHDRAW IT OR WOULD YOU WILL CONSIDER A

CONTINUANCE TO GIVE HIM TIME? >> CONTINUE IT PENDING INVESTIGATION OF AN

ALTERNATIVE. >> OKAY >> SABEEKA ENTERTAIN A CONTINUANCE AND I AGREE WITH SOME OF THE THINGS YOU SAID. THE ONLY THING THAT I THINK GOING FORWARD I WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER AND I'M NOT SAYING YES OR NO BUT I WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER A HANDS-ON WOULD BE ONE HOUSE, AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S VERY CLEAR TO ME THIS WAS INTENDED TO BE ONE HOUSE PER PARCEL AND THE SUBURBS BRANDON FIELD -- IT WAS ZONED AR. AR WAS ONE HOUSE PER FIVE ACRES, SO IT JUST IS VERY CLEAR TO ME THE CONSERVATION I GOT. VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE EAGLE IN THE NEST AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A FEDERAL PERMIT TO DO ANYTHING ON THE PROPERTY AND I'M NOT SURE YOU WOULD GET IT.

BEAUTIFUL PICTURES, BY THE WAY BUT AT ANY RATE, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CONTINUE

WITHOUT THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD OR OTHER MOTIONS. >> DOESN'T HE HAVE TO --

>> YES. HE WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO THAT AND THAT'S WHY THINK AT THIS POINT IN TIME I THINK THE COUNTY NEEDS TO BE OUT OF THE MIDDLE OF THAT TO MAKE AND BE RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS OWN ZONING. THAT'S WHY I ASKED ABOUT WHAT THE ZONING WAS WHEN HE PURCHASED IT BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL INTENT. THIS IS ARTIFICIAL IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH TRYING TO REZONE AND SQUEEZE THE SQUARE PEG INTO THE ROUND HOLE.

SO I ASKED ABOUT WHEN HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IT WAS 14 FIVE AND THAT'S UPLAND, NOT THE WETLANDS. SO HE'S GOT FIVE ACRES OF PLANS THAT MATCHES THE ONE ACRE PER FIVE THE ONE HOME PER FIVE ACRES.HAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING.

I CAN SEE MY WAY CLEAR TO POSSIBLY GOING FOR ONE HOME BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL INTENT. HE DIDN'T KNOW HE COULD BUILD MORE THAN ONE UNTIL WE INTRODUCE THAT BECAUSE OF THE ZONING THAT WE DID. AND I APOLOGIZE.

I KNOW YOU WANTED TO PUT A COMPOUND OR AT LEAST TWO HOMES UP THERE BUT THE ORIGINAL ZONING IF WE GET IN THE WAY THAT MACHINE AND GO TO 1999 THEY WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO

BUILD THIS ONE. >> IF YOU INTERPRETED FIVE ACRES AND UPLAND ONLY, I THINK IT SAID FIVE ACRES. I'M NOT SO SURE THAT THAT DIDN'T MEAN ALL OF THE LAND.

I THINK SHE HAD ABOUT 53, 56 ACRES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND SHE DIVIDED FAIRLY EVENLY.

I DON'T KNOW -- PROPERTY APPRAISER HAS AN 11 POINT SOMETHING ACRES SO BASED OFF OF

THAT CRITERIA I COULD PUT TWO ON. >> IT'S ONLY 5.42 ACRES

>> RIGHT. >> AND THEN WHEN YOU CAME TO THEM TO BRING YOUR DEVELOPMENT PLANS YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD THAT SECOND HOME BECAUSE OF YOUR WETLANDS

>> POSSIBLY >> AND MITIGATING WETLANDS RIGHT NOW IS VERY EXPENSIVE AND VERY DIFFICULT TO DO ON PURPOSE , BUT THAT'S JUST THE CASE. I MET WITH A DEVELOPER YESTERDAY AND HE WAS TELLING ME HOW EXPENSIVE IT WAS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> I DIDN'T MEAN TO MAKE YOU STANDING THERE. >> I DID WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING. I BELIEVE THE PAPERS THAT YOU ARE RELYING ON ARE NOT FROM THE CURRENT COMP LAND. THEY APPEAR TO BE FROM THE 2025 AND NOT THE 20/40 COMP PLAN > DID YOU HEAR THAT? THE COMP PLAN -- HOW OFTEN IS NOT, PLAN UPDATED?

>> POTENTIALLY EVERY SEVEN YEARS >> SO WHEN THEY DO THAT THAT WAS SEVEN YEARS PRIOR TO 2025 WE ARE NOW IN 2040, BUT AT ANY RATE.

>> AGAIN, I WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

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>> I WOULD MOVE TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW MR. DURRANT TO FIGURE OUT WHEN HE WOULD LIKE TO DO.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> YOU NEED TO SPECIFY THE DATE

>> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE SECOND AND WE DO NEED A DATE SPECIFIED WE WOULD CONTINUE IT

TO APPEAR WHAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. >> PERHAPS FEBRUARY 28.

>> CAN YOU INVESTIGATED? >> IS THAT ENOUGH TIME FOR YOU? >>

>> EVERYONE CAN HEAR AND ALL HE WAS SAYING AS BEFORE HE CAME IN THIS AFTERNOON HE GOT A TEXT MESSAGE FROM A T.V. REPORTER THAT SAID SOMEONE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN PURCHASING THE LAND FOR CONSERVATION AND HE THINKS MAYBE IT WAS THE SAME PERSON.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A DATE FOR FEBRUARY 28. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION

>> GIVEN THESE LATEST REVELATIONS AND COMMISSIONER BURKE WHO WAS THE COMMISSIONER IN THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT I WILL DEFER TO HER. THOUGHTS THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE THIS AND WE WILL SEE MARY GAYLE AND HOPEFULLY IT HAS A POSITIVE RESULT FOR THE FOLKS

THAT ARE HERE AS WELL FOR MR. DIRKS. >> COMMISSIONER BURKE

>> KIND OF GOING OFF SCRIPT HERE. BECAUSE I CAN.

I FIGURE THAT OUT CENTS ON THE COMMISSIONER. AND I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF TALK TO THE PEOPLE HERE AND ALSO IN T.V. LAND. YOU KNOW, I CAME TO MY FIRST COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING PROBABLY FIVE YEARS AGO AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT COUNTY COMMISSION DID. I HAD NO IDEA. I HAD A REASONABLY ASSIGNED PUT UP IN MY BACKYARD ALSO AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW WHAT'S SO LIGHT AS THEY DID HORRIBLE THINGS TO OUR PROPERTY IN COUNTY. MANY THINGS HAPPEN IN MY FAMILY. I WAS GOING TO SPEAK UP AND I SCARED OUT OF MY MIND HAD NO IDEA WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT I SPOKE UP AND THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING THE.

THAT IS WHAT WE ALL WANT HERE ON OUR BOARD. WE WANT YOU TO BE INVOLVED.

NOW THAT YOU KNOW THE MEETING STARTS AT 4:00 BECAUSE I READ ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS, IT WASN'T CHANGED. IT IS ACTUALLY 4:00 AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN SINCE I'VE KNOWN, BUT WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO COME AND BE INVOLVED BECAUSE WE LOVE OUR COUNTY.

WE ARE NOT HERE TO OPPOSE THINGS THAT ARE RIGHT, BUT WE DO HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE LAW AND WE DO HAVE TO ABIDE BY OUR CODE WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR CODE, YOU KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT COME UP LIKE THIS AND IF IT WAS ME, I LOVE MR. DURANCE AND I DON'T KNOW HIM HIS LIKE MY GRANDFATHER. YOU KNOW HE HAS A RIGHT AND I'M SO THANKFUL THAT HE'S WILLING TO BEND AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE RIGHT THING IS FOR OUR COUNTY AND SO JUST BE CAREFUL ABOUT THINGS YOU SAY. I SEE IT AND SO DOES EVERYONE ELSE HERE WE ARE TRYING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN. I RAN AND HAVE FOUR KIDS IN THE BUSINESS AND HAVE A HUSBAND AND I HAVE A CRAZY LIFE BUT I DID IT BECAUSE I LOVE THIS COUNTY.

SO I DON'T TAKE MONEY FROM PEOPLE. I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE HEADS UP OF SOME OF THE THINGS I READ. I CAN'T EVEN ACCEPT A CUP OF COFFEE FROM SOMEONE. SO I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE MORE MONEY THAN I DO.

DOESN'T EVERYBODY? BUT I WOULD NEVER TAKE MONEY. I PERSONALLY HATE THE DEVELOPMENT IN MY DISTRICT. AND I SAY THAT WORD. I DON'T EVEN LIKE THAT WORD.

BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN I BECAME A COMMISSIONER I HAVE SOMETHING PEOPLE SAY TO ME WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE YOU DOING? YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE STEPPING INTO AND NO, I DID NOT BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? ABOUT A YEAR LATER AFTER THAT ALL THE TREES STARTED COMING DOWN AND ALL OF THE BEARS STARTED COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALL OF THE

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WE DIDN'T DO THIS. 2006 MOST OF US -- OF THE STAFF WASN'T EVEN HERE.

WE DIDN'T APPROVE 10,000, 50,000 HOMES. WE DIDN'T APPROVE THAT.

AND I WOULD HOPE THEY HAD NO CLUE WHAT WAS GOING TO BE LIKE IT IS.

BUT WE ARE STUCK WITH THAT. WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. LET'S ALL TRY TO WORK TOGETHER AND BE POSITIVE AND TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER AND BE KIND. IF YOU WANT TO RUN AGAINST ME, HAVE ADDED. TRUST ME. YOU WILL HAVE A RUDE AWAKENING.

BUT I LOVE THIS JOB AND I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH. I JUST WANT TO SAY THOSE THINGS. I COULD COME BACK ON FACEBOOK AND MY EMAIL WAS PUT OUT THERE THAT MY WONDERFUL PATIENT HERE PUT OUT AND I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING IN REGARDS TO IT BECAUSE THERE WASN'T REALLY ANYTHING I COULD SAY BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS ALWAYS GOING TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING NEGATIVE BUT JUST KNOW THAT WE DO CARE.

WE HAVE AN AWESOME BOARD HERE AND AM SO PRIVILEGED TO BE A PART OF IT AND OUR STAFF.

THEY WORK HARD. BETH, GOD BLESS HER. I HAVE TO COME TO THEM.

THEY ARE ALWAYS WILLING TO HELP. SO JUST KNOW THEY WILL BE THERE FOR YOU. IF YOU NEED QUESTIONS ANSWERED, DON'T GET ON FACEBOOK AND TRASH AS. JUST REACH OUT AND WE WILL BE THERE.

I WILL DO WHATEVER I CAN. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BURKE.

ALL RIGHT. I AM GOING TO MOVE US TO ITEM NUMBER 25 BECAUSE -- WE DIDN'T

VOTE? I THOUGHT WE VOTED. >> IS AFTER DINNER TIME.

WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO FEBRUARY 28.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR NOW I NEED

[25.  Final Public Hearing to consider CPA-2022-13. (District 4, Comm. Condon)(D. Selig)]

WE ARE MOVING TO OUR FINAL PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER CPA 2022 Ã13.

THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A SMALL-SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO THE 20/40 FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND APPLICATION WOULD CHANGE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF A SINGLE PARCEL OF LAND FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO BRANNAN FIELD RURAL SUBURBS. THIS ITEM WAS CONTINUED FROM

OUR NOVEMBER 22, 2022 MEETING. >> ONE SECOND.MR. WANAMAKER, WOULD YOU MOVE THAT TD HE'S GOT TO TAKE HIS PICTURES. THEY WERE JUST BLOCKING THE DATE THEY WERE BLOCKING HER VIEW SO I APPRECIATE THAT. GO ON. THE APPLICANT IS MR. AND MRS.

PLEASANT AND THE PROPERTY IS ON THE EAST SIDE -- >> COULD YOU ALL

>> WAIT UNTIL THEY CLEAR. >> COULD YOU ENCOURAGE THEM TO TAKE THEIR CONVERSATION FURTHER OUT? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

>> SO THE APPLICANT >> IF YOU COULD SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE

>> THE APPLICANTS ARE MR. MRS. PLEASANT AND THIS IS NORTH OF ROBERT KEENE ROAD DOCTORS LAKE RIDGEWOOD PLANNING DISTRICT IT'S DISTRICT 4. IT IS ONE SINGLE PARCEL AND IT'S JUST

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ON THE LEFT IS THE MAP OF THE LOCATION AND ON THE RIGHT IS THE AERAL AND YELLOW.

NEXT SLIDE. ON THE LEFT HERE IS THE PROPOSED LAND USE ATTACHED AND ON THE RIGHT IS THE FLOOD ZONE MAP AND YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A LARGE SORT OF PALE GREEN COLOR, LARGE AREA OF WETLANDS IN THE MIDDLE -- I'M SORRY. FLOOD ZONE.

THE APPLICANT INTENDS -- HIS PRACTICE REQUEST FORWARD IN ORDER TO HAVE A CELL TOWER ON THE PROPERTY, SO CELL TOWERS IN THE BRANNAN FIELD MASTER PLAN ARE CONDITIONAL USE AND REQUIRE A 50 FOOT BUFFER FROM ADJOINING RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY AND THE BUFFER NEEDS TO CONTAIN LANDSCAPE SCREENING AND THE TOWER HAS A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 130 FEET OR 189 IF IT'S CAMOUFLAGED AT ANY HEIGHT OVER THAT WOULD REQUIRE APPROVAL OF A VARIANCE FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. THIS ITEM WAS HEARD NOVEMBER 1 BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEY VOTED FIVE-TO FOR APPROVAL IN THIS ITEM -- THEY ARE AMENDING APPROVAL AND THEY REVIEWED THE CRITERIA AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF IT. I DO WANT TO MENTION ONE THING BEFORE YOU OPEN IT TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND THAT'S JUST TO CLARIFY SOME LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THE ANALYSIS, THE LAST PAGE OF THE STACK REPORT, AND THAT HAD TO DO WITH THE TYPE OF STRUCTURES THAT CAN BE BUILT AS FAR AS RESIDENCE. THE PROPERTY UNDER THE CURRENT OR THE PROPOSED LAND USE CHANGE EITHER WAY CAN HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY LIKE A STICK BUILT HOME. IT COULD HAVE A MODULAR HOME. THOSE ARE BOTH REGULATED UNDER THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE. IN EITHER CASE, A MOBILE HOME IS PROHIBITED, HOWEVER, A MANUFACTURED HOME THAT WAS A PORTION THAT WASN'T ADDRESSED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

UNDER THE PRESENT CODE, A MANUFACTURED HOME IS PROHIBITED UNDER RURAL SUBURBS.

THEY ARE PERMITTED UNDER PROPOSED AND THAT WAS A CHANGE THAT HAPPENED JUST ABOUT ONE YEAR AGO, AS A MATTER OF FACT THIS MONTH WHEN THE BOARD ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ALLOW MANUFACTURED HOMES, SPECIFICALLY IN UNFLATTERING SUBDIVISIONS WITHIN BRANNAN FIELD SUBURBS. THIS IS THE DATE THIS PARCEL BEING ON LIVE OAK LANE IS A RURAL AREA AND THERE ARE ALSO MOBILE HOMES -- MANUFACTURED HOMES NEARBY.

IT'S SORT OF A SEMANTICS, BUT IT IS THE DISTINCTION I WANTED TO MAKE.

>> AND I OWE YOU AN APOLOGY BECAUSE I TOLD YOU INCORRECTLY. WE THOUGHT WE HAD CLEAR DATA AND IT WAS NOT CLEAR SO I APOLOGIZE FOR MY EMAIL TO YOU TELLING YOU THAT.

OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JODY >> AN ORDINANCE OR LAW THAT WE CANNOT DENY THIS DUE TO SOMEONE WANTING IT BECAUSE IT BEING DANGEROUS OR WHATEVER? I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THAT WAS CORRECT BECAUSE I RECEIVED EMAILS THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT IT IN THEIR BACKYARD BECAUSE OF THE DANGER POSED TO THEIR FAMILY OR WHATEVER

>> IN CONNECTION WITH THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS ACT, THERE ARE CERTAIN PREEMPTION SET APPLY TO STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN CONNECTION SUCH AS THE CELL TOWER AND SPECIFICALLY THE STATUTE PREEMPTS LOCAL DECISIONS THAT ARE PREMISED ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS. SUCH AS THE RADIOFREQUENCY ADMISSIONS.

>> WE CANNOT DENY BASED ON THAT? >> NOW.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? COME ON UP, SIR. OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO US. YOU ARE BACK AGAIN > MY NAME IS PAUL PLEASANT I LIVE AT 3551 SANDY RIDGE CT. IN MIDDLEBURG MY WIFE AND I ARE THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY.

WE AGREED TO THE CONTINUANCE IN NOVEMBER SO THEY COULD PURSUE THE CONFUSION WITH THE MOBILE HOME MANUFACTURED HOME SO EVEN -- I DO UNDERSTAND ABOUT WHAT SHE EXPLAINS AS LONG AS WE FALL

WITHIN THE TIMELINE SOLANO COUNTY CODE THEN UNSATISFIED. >> AND YOUR INTENT IS TO LIVE

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ON THE PROPERTY? >> NOT AT THIS TIME. AND IF WE CHOOSE TO BUILD, MY INTENT WOULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING ON THE ORDER OF A CEDAR LOG HOME OF SOME KIND.

BUT I KIND OF LIKE THE WILD. IT'S A LOT OF WETLANDS AND WE HUNT ON IT.

FRIENDS OF MINE HUNT ON IT AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT AS PRISTINE AS POSSIBLE

>> I WAS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AT RISK OF RESIDENTS COMING AT ME WITH PITCHFORKS IF YOU DIDN'T WHEN I WAS JUDGING CHRISTMAS LIGHTS. AND SO IF YOU ARE NOT -- IF YOU ARE WATCHING TONIGHT AND YOU ARE MAD YOU DIDN'T WHEN IT WASN'T ME WHO VOTED AGAINST YOU. I'M KIDDING. BUT I WAS THERE TO SEE CHRISTMAS LIGHTS AND I SAW IN FOX MEADOW NOT ON LIVE OAK LN. AND I SAW A TRUCK GOING DOWN THE UTILITY EASEMENT TO YOUR PROPERTY WHICH I FOUND ODD BECAUSE IT WAS AFTER DARK ON A SATURDAY NIGHT IN DECEMBER. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE AND THE PREFERENCE OF THE RESIDENTS THAT THERE BE VERY LITTLE ACCESS FROM THE FOX MEADOW SIDE IF YOU -- THAT'S

INTENDED TO ONLY BE UTILITY EASEMENT >> IT WASN'T ME.

>> IT WAS A TRUCK. A WHITE PICKUP TRUCK >> OKAY.

I DO KNOW WITH THE CELL TOWER COMPANY THEY WANTED ACCESS FROM LIVE OAK LN. AND PUT IN THE DRIVEWAY OF SORTS WHICH WOULD GIVE US ACCESS TO A PROPERTY FROM LIVE OAK LN.

THERE SHOULD BE NO REASON FOR ANYONE GOING THROUGH THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T GO THAT WAY.

WE HAVE TO HIKE ACROSS A DITCH RIGHT NOW TO GET ON THEIR WALK THE PROPERTY AND IT WASN'T

ANYBODY THAT I KNOW SHE >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MR. ARCHAMBAULT, I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU SINCE YOU HAD TO COACH A BASKETBALL GAME.

>> I LIVE ON SADDLE HORN TRL. IN FOX MEADOW AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE PROPOSED CELL TOWER. I CAN'T TAKE IN THREE MINUTES EDUCATE EVERYBODY AND I KNOW -- THIS IS THE SAME TYPE OF GOVERNMENT AGENCY THAT TOLD US THAT VACCINES DID NOT -- YOU WOULDN'T SPREAD COVID. THIS IS THE SAME TYPE OF THING THAT GOES ON OUT THERE WHERE THE TRUTH IS NOT IN FRONT OF US. THERE ARE DANGERS.

YOU CAN LOOK ONLINE AND YOU CAN LOOK UNBIASED REPORT THAT CELL TOWER DAMAGES REAL AND WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS FOR SURE AND I'M WONDERING ABOUT THE TIMING OF THIS.

THE ARGUMENT FOR THE CELL PHONE TOWER IS THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT GET IN TROUBLE AND YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE A PHONE CALL. TODAY I SPOKE WITH AN OFFICER HAYDEN AT CLAY COUNTY SHERIFF. I SAID HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF ANYBODY WHO WASN'T SERVICED IN ANY EMERGENCY FROM A -- POOR CELL SERVICE AND HE SAID NO. I HAVE NOT.

I SAID YOU KNOW OF ANYBODY ELSE THERE WHO HAS NOT BEEN SERVICED DUE TO LACK OF CELL PHONE SERVICE? HE SAID NO. ALSO, THIS LAND WAS MEDICATED WITH LOTS OF DIRT AT SOME POINT. I UNDERSTAND

>> AND LIVE WITH HIM. CLAY COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME AS SIGNIFICANT

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THIS NOTE WAS DISTRIBUTED TO HOUSEHOLDS IN FOX MEADOW THAT FELL WITHIN THE DISTANCE WHICH I MEASURED WHICH IS CONSIDERED HIGH RISK FOR SIGNIFICANT HEALTH ISSUES WERE RADIATION AND TO DATE I HAVE 40 SIGNATURES. REMEMBER THERE ARE NO SAFETY UPDATES BY THE FCC SINCE 19 -- 1996. PETITIONERS FILED 11,000 PAGES OF EVIDENCE AFTER REVIEW THE U.S. COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA CIRCUIT RULED THAT THE SEC'S 2019 DECISION NOT TO UPDATE SAFETY LIMITS FOR WIRELESS RADIATION WAS, QUOTE, ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS. THE COURT FOUND THAT THE SEC DID NOT PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF PROPERLY EXAMINING EVIDENCE SUCH AS IMPACTS OF LONG-TERM WIRELESS EXPOSURE, IMPACTS TO CHILDREN, THE DEVELOPING BRAIN AND THE REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEM WERE TO WILDLIFE AND THE TESTIMONY A PERSON IS INJURED BY WIRELESS RADIATION.

THE SAFETY ASSUMPTIONS BY THE PUBLIC ARE NOW CLEARLY DOCUMENTED TO BE INCORRECT ASSUMPTIONS. SIMPLY PUT, THE SEC COULD NOT DEFEND ITSELF IN THE AUGUST 2021 COURT RULING FOUND THE FCC IGNORED SCIENCE AND FAILED TO EXPLAIN WHY IT WANTS TO KEEP OUTDATED 1996 LIMITS. THEY WERE ORDERED TO BEGIN UPDATING.

THE FCC'S 1996 LIMITS WOULD NOT -- I'M GOING TO SKIP THAT. HERE ARE OTHER VERY VALID CONCERNS THAT WERE DISCUSSED WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS. NUMBER ONE THE TOWER IS SO BIG, SO CLOSE AND SO UGLY. NO ONE WANTS TO SIT IN THEIR BACKYARD OR WALK OUT THE FRONT YARD -- DOOR AND SEE THAT. WOULD YOU? THE DEVALUING OF PROPERTY THAT IS NEAR A TOWER, THE REALTOR INDUSTRY SAYS THIS IS VERY REAL AND VALUES CAN DECREASE BY UP TO 20 PERCENT. NUMBER THREE, THE PROPERTY IS A WETLAND.

ME AND FOX MEADOW LOVE OUR WILDLIFE. HOW WILL THIS BE AFFECTED? IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS NEVER A VARIANCE SIGN. NOT AT THE EASEMENT OR IN FRONT OF THE DEVELOPMENT. MANY NEIGHBORS DID NOT KNOW THIS WAS HAPPENING AND IT WAS SO CLOSE. IF AT ALL. MANY SAID WHY CAN'T THEY JUST PUT IT IN THE FOREST WERE DAMAGE WOULD BE MINIMAL IF PUT 500 METERS FROM THE NEAREST HOUSE. NOT FEET. 500 METERS.

THAT'S 1640 FEET. SO AT A MINIMUM CAN'T WE AT LEAST DELAY THIS DECISION UNTIL ALL OF US HAVE AMPLE TIME TO REVIEW THE POSSIBLE EFFECTS THIS IS GOING TO HAVE ON US? THERE IS NO PUBLIC HEALTH RISK FOR ERRING ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION.

IT IS MY GREATEST HOPE THAT OUR PLANNING COMMISSION WILL STAND BY WHAT FOX MEADOW HAS AND HOPEFULLY WILL CONTINUE TO BE TRULY A SPECIAL PLACE OF REFUGE, WELL-BEING, AND BEAUTY.

THANK YOU. >> KEVIN DRINKWATER. >> MY NAME IS KEVIN DRINKWATER I LIVE IN FOX MEADOW. I AM ONE OF THE PEOPLE AFFECTED BY THE CELL SURFACE.

PARTICULARLY IN BACK PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE HAD CONTRACTORS THAT CAME IN.

TO PUT UP THE BUILDING, NONE OF THEM HAVE CELL SERVICE. IF ANY ONE OF THE CONTRACTORS WERE TO BE HEARD THEY HAD NO CELL SERVICE. THEY'VE GOT TO GO DOWN THE ROAD DOWN THAT WAY TO FIND IT. OUR COMMISSIONER HAS BEEN OUT THERE AND CAN PROBABLY PROVIDE WITNESS THAT THE CELL SERVICE BACK THERE IS TERRIBLE. WE HAVE AN INFORMAL SURVEY ON OUR OWN ASSOCIATION WHERE 109 RESIDENTS WOULD PREFER TO HAVE A CELL TOWER VICE THE 24 ELECTED. WE BROUGHT THIS UP TO THE COMMUNITY AND ASKED THEM FOR THEIR INPUT. THEY BROUGHT IT BACK. I UNDERSTAND AND I READ MS. ARCHIBALD'S -- I'M SORRY. I HAVE THAT NAME. IT'S PATTY? I WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT RECEIVED IT. DID MY RESEARCH.

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IT'S INCONCLUSIVE. AS WE SAID EARLIER, FEDERAL LAW SAYS YOU CAN'T BE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION FOR GRANTING THIS BECAUSE OF THE RADIATION FROM THE TOWER.

WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT THE CELL SERVICE AT THE BACK OF FOX MEADOW IS TERRIBLE EVEN COMING THROUGH BY THE PARK. BUT I WOULD ASK YOU TO LOOK AT WHAT THE HOME IS OUT THERE OVERWHELMINGLY WISH WHICH IS TO HAVE THAT GRANTED TO PUT THAT POWER BACK THERE.

>> THAT'S ALL THE CARDS THAT I HAVE. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? AS LONG AS WE GET A CARD FROM YOU.

>> JAMES STEWART I LIVE OFF OF 215. WE HAVE A HUGE CELL PHONE TOWER NEXT TO US THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR OVER SEVEN YEARS AND NOBODY'S EVER GOTTEN SICK FROM IT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WORTH ANYBODY -- ANYTHING TO

ANYBODY'S DECISION WE ALL LIVE THERE WE ARE FINE. >> MY NAME IS HELENA AND I LIVE IN ROLLING HILLS 28 LIVING ON WOODBRIDGE CRESCENT COURT I KNOW THE CELL TOWER ISSUE HAS COME UP AND IT'S COME UP IN OUR CDD MEETING THE AREA WHERE THEY WERE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE LAND IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND ANOTHER WAS A FINANCIAL BENEFIT THAT OUR COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE RECEIVED AND THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY WHEN IT COMES TO THE CELL TOWER. LIVE IN ROLLING HILLS AND WE ALL KNOW THE BACK OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU DON'T GET CELL SERVICE.

INSIDE OUR HOUSE, IT'S SO SKETCHY WHEN WE ARE TRYING TO DO WORK AND WE ARE TRYING TO WORK FROM HOME AND DOING THE STUFF WE ARE DOING AT THE INTERNET AND THE SERVICES ARE VERY POOR. WHEN ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE MOVING OUT INTO THE LAKE ASBURY AREA DO SUFFER FROM THAT ANYBODY THAT AFTER THAT HAS KIDS AT ASBURY JUNIOR HIGH IT WAS ALWAYS TERRIBLE FOR THEM TO GET CELL SERVICE.

CELL SERVICE IS AN ISSUE IN OUR COUNTY BUT I DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION ON HOW TO FIX IT OR HOW TO HELP AND SO WHEN YOU ALL ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT PLACEMENT AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT, TAKING EVERYTHING INTO CONSIDERATION IS A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOU ALL.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU ALL DON'T TAKE IT LIGHTLY, AND JUST TRYING TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT THAT BALANCE IS DIFFICULT SO YOU WILL BE IN MY PRAYERS ON THIS ONE AND BEING ABLE TO KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT GETTING PAID FOR WHAT OUR OPINION IS UNLESS OR HAVING IT IN THEIR -- OR WHOEVER PUTS A CELL TOWER ON THE LAND THEY BENEFIT. THEY FINANCIALLY BENEFIT BECAUSE THEY LEASE THE LAND. BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY. IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE PROTECTION AND IF YOU HAVE EVER HAD A CHILD IN DANGER AND YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY THAT LIFE IN YOUR HAVING TO GO OUTSIDE, I HAVE SEEN SOMEBODY IN THE SOUTH I GO THROUGH THAT, AND IT'S HORRIBLE WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE A PHONE CALL FOR LIFESAVING SERVICES.

SO CONNECTION IS IMPORTANT. >> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? SEE A NUN, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. MY COMPUTER DECIDED TO DO AN UPDATE SO I HAVE PAPER, BUT THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. SO I WILL BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY PICTURES? THERE ARE MAPS. I HAVEN'T SEEN -- THAYER

SHOWING WHERE THIS IS COMPARED TO THE OTHER HOUSES. >> I'M SURE WE'VE BEEN TOLD

THIS. WHERE WAS HE GOING TO PUT IT >> THEY IDENTIFY TWO LIKELY SITES AND ONE OF THEM WAS AT THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY WHERE IT STEAMED UP PLANS AND THE OTHERS AT THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY. IF YOU GO ON GOOGLE MAPS AND YOU CAN MEASURE THE DISTANCE I BELIEVE THE CLOSEST IT WOULD BE AT THE SOUTHERN SIDE WOULD BE 750 FEET FROM THE NEAREST BUILDING. ARNOLD WAS A SHELERHOUSE BUT

SEVEN OR 50 FEET TO > THIS IS PINE TREES? >> IS ALL PINE TREES.

>> WHENEVER YOU HAVE A CELL TOWER >> OTHER QUESTIONS OR OTHER

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DISCUSSION? >> OTHER DISCUSSION? >> I MEAN, WE DO HAVE AN AERIAL SHOT OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS FOR THE HOMES AND STUFF ARE THERE.

I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT PAGE IT IS. PAGE 4 IT SAYS IN MY BOOK THE

GLOBAL >> PRETTY MUCH THAT WHITE SANDY SPOT AT THE TOP BY LIVE OAK WHERE IT SAYS LIVE OAK LN. THAT'S THE LARGER THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE.

>> THAT WOULD BE DECIDED DURING A SITE REVIEW ONCE THEY DECIDED >> I DID HEAR FROM A NUMBER

RESIDENTS ON THIS FORM ARE IN FAVOR OF A CELL TOWER >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS INITIATIVE BECAUSE I THINK THE PUBLIC SAFETY OUTWEIGHS ANY POTENTIAL RISK THAT MAY BE EVIDENT WITH RF EXPOSURE. YOU ARE RIGHT WE GET EXPOSED RF AND CERTAINLY MY PAST CAREER I WAS CERTAINLY SUPPOSED TO A LOT OF RF. ANYWAY, I'M MAKING A MOTION FOR

APPROVAL. >> WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND

>> I WILL SECOND >> WE HAVE A MOTION ON MAY 2. I WOULD ADD TO THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY IN OUR MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE HOUSE PHONES AND SO THE ABILITY FOR YOUR CHILD'S STILL TO CONTACT YOU IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG IS REAL, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTS IN FOX MEADOW THAT DON'T HAVE SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN ANYMORE WERE CHILDREN IN SCHOOL ANYMORE BUT THERE ARE SOME WHO DO AND I DID HEAR FROM SOME WHO SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS A PROBLEM FOR THEM, SO I WOULD ADD THAT AS WELL.

AND SITTING MIC, THERE'S NO GOOD ANSWER I KINDA HAD TO GO WITH THE MAJORITY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE.

ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY I. MOTION CARRIES IN THE SPIRIT OF WE ARE MOVING THINGS

[21.  Final Public Hearing to consider adoption of HIS_Tree 2022-01 (District 5, Comm. Burke) (B. Carson)]

IN ARTICLE 6. MS. CARSON? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE LOCATION OF THE TREE THAT

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THIS IS A SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY THE SUBJECT TREE IS LOCATED AT 2975 ROSENCRANTZ LN.

THE ARBORIST DESCRIBED IT AS AN 83 DPH THAT STANDS WERE DIAMETER BRASS TIGHT WHICH IS TYPICALLY FOR THE HAPPY HIGH. THE SURVEYOR NOTED IT WAS 75 INCHES BUT WHEN YOU SEE THE PHOTOS OF THE TREE YOU CAN SEE IT'S GOT MULTIPLE TRUNKS AND MEASURING TREES ARE NOT PERFECTLY SMOOTH SO YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME KNOTS IN THE TRUNKS WHICH MIGHT ACCOUNT FOR THE DIFFERENCE IN THE MEASUREMENT. SO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 75 AND 83 IS REALLY NOT THAT SUBSTANTIAL.

REGARDING EVALUATION, OUR CODE REQUIRES THAT AN EVALUATION BE SUBMITTED BY A CERTIFIED ARBORIST. FORGIVE ME IF I DON'T SAY THIS NAME CORRECTLY.

EARLY P.D. FOUND THE TREE TO BE APPROXIMATELY 150 TO 200 YEARS OLD.

NO OBVIOUS DEFECTS IN THE STEM OR CROWD OF THE TREE AND DESCRIBED IT AS AN EXCELLENT SPECIMEN OF MATURE LIVE OAK AND SHOULD THRIVE FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.

THE TREE WOULD CERTAINLY BE A CANDIDATE FOR DESIGNATION AS THEY STATED.

WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS OF THE TREE. SO FOR SPECIMEN DESIGNATION ARTICLE 6 WHICH IS THE TREE PROTECTION AND LANDSCAPING STANDARDS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 6 Ã TWO FOR THE GIVES THE BCC THE AUTHORITY TO PROTECT SPECIMEN AND HISTORIC TREES. DESIGNATION PROTECTS THEM FROM TREE REMOVAL WHICH IS PROHIBITED EXCEPT BY YOUR PERMISSION SOMEONE WANTED TO REMOVE THE TREE THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK WITH EVIDENCE THAT IT IS NO LONGER A VIABLE TREE, THAT IS A HAZARD OR THATIT WOULD BE ECONOMICALLY TOO EXPENSIVE TO TRY AND DEVELOP AROUND IT.

BUT THAT GIVES YOU THE AUTHORITY TO PROTECT THAT TREE. WITH THAT SAID BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CERTIFIED ARBORIST REPORT THE TREE APPEARS TO BE AN EXCELLENT CANDIDATE FOR SPECIMEN DESIGNATION AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF HISTORY

APPLICATION 20 2201. ANY QUESTIONS? >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR BETH? ALL RIGHT. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? OKAY.

I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER. JAMES K.

>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JAMES K MY ADDRESS IS 1439 ROSENCRANTZ LN. AND GINA HAS ASKED ME TO COME TO SPEAK FOR THE TREE. THE REASON I USE THOSE WORDS IS ALSO ONE OF THE CITIZENS FOR MY NICKNAME WAS MR. LORAX BECAUSE I DO SPEAK FOR THE TREES.

WITH RESPECT TO THIS HOPEFULLY THIS IS A LITTLE LESS CONTENTIOUS THAN SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES YOU'VE DEALT WITH TONIGHT. THE TREE HAS BEEN ON THE FRONT RIVER SIDE OF THE BLACK CREEK AND THE PROPERTY IS UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF THE BLACK CREEK AND THE ST. JOHNS RIVER. THE PROPERTY THAT IS ON IS ONE OF THE THREE REMAINING PROPERTIES FROM THE ORIGINAL FISH CAMP THAT WAS THERE. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS THE HISTORICAL MULTIGENERATIONAL FAMILY THAT OWNS THIS PROPERTY IN THE CURRENT -- SHE COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE SHE IS IN MINNESOTA. SHE HAS ASKED ME TO SPEAK.

THE PROPERTY IS SO STABLE THEY LITERALLY MANAGE CANNIBALS THERE.

THEY WERE FIRING ACROSS AT THE BRITISH AND THEY LANDED ON THE PROPERTY.

THE NEIGHBORS THERE HAVE ALL BEEN THERE FOR MOST OF THEIR ENTIRE LIVES.

THEY CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE PROPERTY AND DEEPLY ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT AND DEEPLY ABOUT THESE TREES. THE GENESIS OF THIS REQUEST WAS THERE WAS A COMPARABLE TREE DOWN THE STREET. A NEW OWNER CAME IN. HE WANTED TO PARK CARS ON THE STREET WHICH IS A DIRT ROAD, I WANT TO POINT OUT. AND CUT DOWN THE TREE FOR THAT REASON AND THAT REASON ALONE. ABOUT SIX MONTHS LATER, FOR INSURANCE REASONS, SHE WAS TOLD

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IT SURVIVED MANY HURRICANES AND I HOPE THAT YOU FIND IN YOUR HEART TO PRESERVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY THAT STILL REMAINS. THE TREE HAS BEEN THERE WELL IN EXCESS OF 100 YEARS AND HOPEFULLY WILL BE THERE FOR SEVERAL HUNDRED MORE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME >> ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON THE PUBLIC HEARING?

>> AND WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING >> I WOULD DEFINITELY MOVE

APPROVAL. I LOVE TREES. >> WE HAVE A MOTION.

YOU MAY HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION ON A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> I'M JUST GLAD THIS WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION. THE EVENING WE HAD AN ORDINANCE TO PROTECT A TREE. WE HAVE SEVERAL IN ORANGE PARK THAT ARE ADAPTED IF NOT BIGGER.

SO I'M GOING TO LOOK INTO IT >> I'M THRILLED THAT IT'S HEALTHY BECAUSE SO FEW ARE

HEALTHY AT THAT SIZE AND THAT AGE. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

[19.  Public Hearing on Petition to Establish the Lakes at Bella Lago Community Develoment District (C. Grimm)]

>> WE ARE GOING TO ITEM NUMBER 19 PICKED WITH A PUBLIC HEARING TO PETITION THE DAY TO ESTABLISH THE LEGS AT BELLA LAGO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

MADELEY HOMES JACKSONVILLE, LLC HAS SUBMITTED TO THE BOARD A PETITION TO ESTABLISH THE LAKE THAT BELLA LAGO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WITH A 254.16 ACRE TRACT SITUATED

SOLELY WITHIN UNINCORPORATED CLAY COUNTY. >> YOU HAVE ITEM NUMBER 19 WHICH IS THE PETITION AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT WILL BE ITEM NUMBER 20, THE ORDINANCE CREATING IT, AND WE HAVE THE PETITIONER REPRESENTATIVE HERE WITH A PRESENTATION.

JENNIFER I AM AT THE LAW FIRM OF KE LAW GROUP AND APPEAR ON BEHALF OF THE PETITIONER IN THE CONSIDERATION OF THIS ESTABLISHMENT. JUST FOR PURPOSES OF THE RECORD, I WANT TO REITERATE THIS IS NOT A HEARING ON ZONING.

THIS IS REALLY JUST A HEARING ON WHETHER THIS IS THE BEST MECHANISM FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OF THIS 254 ACRE PARCEL. SO ON THE POWERPOINT, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF REVIEW FOR PURPOSES OF THE COMMISSION WHAT IS A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. YOU HAVE HEARD ACTUALLY SOME COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC TONIGHT ABOUT LIVING IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS.

THERE ARE UNITS OF LOCAL SPECIAL GOVERNMENT. THEY ARE ESTABLISHED PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 190 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES. AND THEY ARE USED PRIMARILY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE TO SERVE DEVELOPMENT -- COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

SO THEY CANNOT TAKE -- I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THEY CANNOT TAKE ANY ACTION WHICH IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN OR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE'S. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ZONING RIGHTS OR ZONING AUTHORITY.

I HEARD TONIGHT COMMENT ABOUT FLEMING ISLAND HAVING SOME APPROVAL AUTHORITY OVER WHILE I STATION. IT'S NOT POSSIBLE UNDER THE LAW.

THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE TYPE OF AUTHORITY. AND ALL OF VCU DEPARTMENT POWER MUST COMPLY WITH ALL OF YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES. THEY CAN'T GRANT SPECIAL POWERS TO DEVELOPER TO DO ANYTHING THAT'S INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU'VE GRANTED HER THE PERMITS THAT YOU AFFORD. SO THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT -- ON THE NEXT SLIDES CONTAINED WITHIN THAT PETITION BUT IS THE PROPOSED LEGS AT BELLA LAGO SO IS APPROXIMATELY 254 ACRES AND YOU WLL SEE THE PROJECT SITE THERE IS LOCATED SOUTH OF SAND RIDGE ROAD EAST OF FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY AND WEST OF BEAD MILL ROAD.

THE NEXT SLIDE WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THIS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT HAS PROPOSED TO DELIVER. IT'S ANTICIPATED AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO BE CONSTRUCTED OVER THREE YEARS SO FROM 2023 TO 2026.

IT WOULD DELIVER THINGS LIKE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT FACILITY ON SITE ROADWAYS, WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM SANITARY SEWER COLLECTION AND TRANSMISSION LANDSCAPE AND HARDSCAPE AS WELL AS SITE AMENITIES AND HARDSCAPE WHICH ARE INCLUSIVE OF PARKS AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES. WOULD KNOW JUST ON SOME OF THESE FACILITIES I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE YOU ON ESTABLISHMENTS BEFORE THIS DISTRICT IS ANTICIPATED TO ON THE ROADWAYS

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SO THE CBD 'S CAN ISSUE TAX-EXEMPT LOW-COST DEBT TO FINANCE THESE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS. THE DEVELOPER PAYS ITS PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF HIS ASSESSMENT LEVIED WHILE IT OWNS THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

AND THEN YOU GOT TRANSPARENCY. YOU'VE GOT THE BOND COVENANTS REQUIRE LOTS OF NOTICE TO RESIDENTS IN THE FORM OF DISCLOSURES AND PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENTS, RECORDED NOTICES OF ASSESSMENTS, RECORDED NOTICES OF THE DISTRICT RECORDED NOTICES OF PUBLIC DISCLOSURE FINANCING WHICH IS BOTH WHAT IS ANTICIPATED TO BE FINANCE AND WHAT IS ACTUALLY FINANCED THROUGH THE DISTRICT, AND THEN ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS AS YOUR COUNTY STAFF ON THOSE IS THE DISTRICTS HAVE THE ABILITY TO COLLECT THEIR ASSESSMENTS TO THE COUNTY TAX ROLL.

IN THE PLUS THERE IS THE FOLKS THAT BUY INTO THE CDD KNOW THEY WILL HAVE A LONG-TERM STABLE MECHANISM TO MAKE SURE THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY IS ALWAYS MAINTAINED TO AN APPROPRIATE STANDARD. BOND COVENANTS ACTUALLY REQUIRES THAT.

ALSO PROTECTIONS FOR HOMEOWNERS WHO PURCHASE WITHIN CDD'S. ON THE NEXT SLIDE WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE INTERACTION BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND ANOTHER LOCAL UNIT OF GOVERNMENT. WE'VE GOT GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTABILITY WHICH MAKES THEM SUBJECT TO SUNSHINE LAWS AND PUBLIC RECORDS LAWS THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT ANNUAL AUDIT AND THAT GETS POSTED ON THE WEBSITE HAVE WEBSITE THAT CONTAINS DISTRICT INFORMATION, BUDGETS, THE AUDITS, MEETING MINUTES JUST AS THE COUNTY IS.

AND IN THE COUNTY WILL RECEIVE EVERY YEAR THE PROPOSED BUDGET BEFORE FINAL ADOPTION SO YOU KNOW IT'S GOING ON IN THAT UNIT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT. SOME BENEFITS TO HOMEOWNERS IS THAT HE WAS HE ON THE NEXT SLIDE THERE'S CHEAPER FINANCING FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS ARE SPREAD OVER TIMES, SO RATHER THAN HAVING THIS FRONTLOADED -- I PURCHASED MY HOME UPFRONT AND A PAYING ALL OF THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, THIS CAN BE FINANCED OVER 30 YEARS. THERE IS A STABLE REVENUE STREAM, SO ASSESSMENTS ARE PAID. THE TURNOVER FROM DEVELOPER CONTROL TO RESIN CONTROL IS ALWAYS A QUESTION OF RESIDENCE. IT'S MUCH FASTER WITH HOA'S WHICH REQUIRES 90 PERCENT BUILDOUT. THIS ACTUALLY TURNED OVER AT SIX YEARS.

THERE IS ALSO INCREASED ACCOUNTABILITY AND ENHANCED LEVEL OF SERVICE.

DURING THE DOWNTURN IN 2008 WE SAW COMMUNITIES THAT CAME OUT THE FASTEST FROM THE DOWNTURN WERE ALL OF THE SPECIAL DISTRICTS AND THERE'S A LOT OF DATA ON THAT THAT'S LARGELY BECAUSE THERE'S A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HIGHLY INVESTED IN THE OUTCOME OF THE COMMUNITY FROM BONDHOLDERS TO THE RESIDENTS AND SO YOU'VE GOT THIS LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE DENSITY THAT NEVER WENT THE OTHER WAY AND BONDHOLDERS INVESTING AND ONGOING

MAINTENANCE >> CAN ASK YOU A QUESTION? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY RELATIVELY

EARLY TURNOVER? TURNOVER TO WHAT? >> THE WAY CHAPTER 190 WORKS IS THE BOARD IS INITIALLY POPULATED AND YOU WILL SEE IN THE PETITION BY LANDOWNER REPRESENTATIVES, SO FOR THE FIRST SIX YEARS IT IS POPULATED -- THE BOARD IS POPULATED ON A ONE ACRE ONE-VOTE BASIS SO WHEN RESIDENTS COME IN THEY GOT A FRACTION OF AN ACRE AND IT'S ROUNDED UP TO 1 ACRE. SO THEY CAN VOTE THERE ONE SHARE.

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DOES NOT MAKE SENSE? >> YES. >> SO SOME BENEFITS TO THE COUNTY, AGAIN, I KNOW IN TALKING WITH STAFF ON WHEN WE FIRST HAD OUR FIRST HERE WHEN THE -- WHEN HOA'S ON YOUR ROADWAYS, YOU REALLY GO BELLY UP AND IT'S DIFFICULT FOR THE COUNTY AND IT PUTS THE COUNTY IN A DIFFICULT POSITION ON WHO IS MAINTAINING THOSE ROADWAYS BECAUSE RESIDENTS -- RESIDENTS HAVE A CHALLENGE ON THE HOA'S WERE NOBODY'S PAYING IN AND YOU HAVE NO ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM TO COLLECT ENFORCEMENTS.O THERE'S A STABLE FINANCING SOURCE AND THERE'S A STABLE LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE ENTITY AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE DISTRICT WERE TO ISSUE BONDS THAT CAN NEVER BECOME A GENERAL OBLIGATION OF THE COUNTY. IT'S ALWAYS THE GENERAL OBLIGATION OF THE DISTRICT AND THE ONLY RECOURSE IS AGAINST THE LAND. NOT AGAINST INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS. A COUPLE OF SLIDES FROM THIS LINE I THINK PROBABLY THE NEXT SLIDE, PROTECTIONS FOR THE COUNTY AND THESE ARE QUESTIONS WE GET FROM LOCAL JURISDICTIONS SO YOU WILL SEE IT'S NEVER DISCLOSE THE COUNTIES FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND IT CAN'T BECOME A GENERAL OBLIGATION AND YOU RETAIN ALL OF THE AUTHORITY FROM A ZONING AND PERMITTING PERSPECTIVE. SO IN SUMMARY, WE BELIEVE AND HAVE SEEN THROUGH THE 15 OR 20 YEARS IN FLORIDA 48 OF THEM ARE SPECIAL DISTRICTS AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT STATUTORY WE ALSO SUBMITTED PREFILED TESTIMONY THAT SPEAKS TO ALL THOSE STATUTORY CONSIDERATIONS.

ONE FROM FEEDER MALL IS HERE FOR MILLER. TIM'S AND MILLER TALKED ABOUT THE ENGINEERING FACTORS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE QUESTIONS. WE HAD PREFILED TESTIMONY FROM CRAIG ROTH OUT WHO'S THE DISTRICT'S METHODOLOGY CONSULTANT. THEN ALSO FROM THE PETITIONER.

HAPPY JUST SEE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. HOPEFULLY YOU LEARNED ABOUT SPECIAL DISTRICT

TONIGHT AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. WE WEREN'T EXPECTING TO BE AT THE END OF THE AGENDA. QUESTIONS FOR THE

APPLICANT? >> THE QUESTION. ON YOUR APPLICATION YOU REFER TO PARKS AND GREENS BASED ON ALL THAT. AND YET IN EXHIBIT 7 SEE ANY LIGHT ITEM FOR PARKS. WHAT KIND OF RESOURCES DO YOU EXPECT TO ATTACH TO THE PARK DEVELOPMENT?

>> FIRST ON THE LINE ITEMS. TYPICALLY AT THIS STAGE WE DON'T KNOW HARD COST FOR INDIVIDUAL LINE ITEMS WITHIN THE DISTRICTS FINANCING PLAN. OUR DISTRICT, JUST THE CDD 6 PERSPECTIVE, THE LINE ITEM IN THAT EXHIBIT THAT PERTAIN TO SOME AMENITIES AND SITE WORK CATEGORIES WHERE THE PARK COST WOULD COME IN. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN HARD BIDS FROM CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIAL DISTRICT YET TO START DOING THAT CONSTRUCTION PLANNING. PETER CAN PROBABLY TALK FROM A SITE PLAN PERSPECTIVE WHAT IS

CURRENTLY CONTEMPATED FOR PARKS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL? >> YET, SO THE LIGHT ITEM OF SITE AMENITIES AND HARDSCAPE IS THE BUDGET ITEM. WHAT YOU PLAN TO PUT IN THIS DEVELOPMENT AS

PER PARKS? >> PETER Ã14775 JACKSON PORT APPEARED I BELIEVE UNDER THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE LAKE ASBERRY MASTER PLAN THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR CERTAIN AMENITIES AND CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS. THOSE DOLLARS YOU SEE IN THOSE LINE ITEMS WILL GO TOWARD THOSE TYPES OF AMENITIES. RIGHT NOW WE EALLY HAVEN'T STARTED DESIGNING ANY OF THOSE RIGHT NOW. IT'S A EQUIREMENT AS PART OF THE LAKE ASBERRY MASTER

PLAN. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST DIDN'T SEE IT CATEGORIZED. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WERE CONSIDERING THAT, YOU'RE CONSIDERING NOT.

>> YES, SIR . >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE

APPLICANT? >> COMMISSIONER? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. HAVING SERVED ON THE PLUMBING ISLAND PLANTATION CDD BOARD FOR 10 YEARS FOR MAYOR WITH THE CONCEPT AND COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD TO GIVING THEM PERMISSION TO INSTITUTE A CDD THERE. AT THE LEGS. I GUESS WE WILL REFER TO IT AS OUT. CERTAINLY IT'S NOTHING THAT

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WOULD BE GLAD TO MAKE A MOTION. >> OKAY, WE HAVE TO HAVE A

PUBLIC HEARING. >> I DO HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. INGRESS AND EGRESS.

I SEE THAT TUNNEL GOING TO THE NORTH. IS THAT A RIGHT AWAY OR PROPERTY THAT BELONGS TO THE

CDD? IS THAT THE ONLY INGRESS AND EGRESS? >> NO, I SEE. THAT IS A

PRIMARY ACCESS TO SAND RIDGE BOULEVARD. >> RIGHT.

>> WHEN FEMALE ROAD IT'S BUILT THERE'S A SECULAR AXIS WE WILL CONNECT TO. I BELIEVE IN OUR APPROVAL PROCESS THAT COMES IN WHEN WE DEVELOP PHASE 2 OF THE PROJECT.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> WERE NOT APPROVING YOUR PROJECT TONIGHT. I KEEP HEARING PEOPLE TALK ABOUT FEMALE ROAD AND NOBODY IS PONYING UP THE MONEY FOR FEED MILL ROAD. WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR FEED MILL ROAD. JUST LAYING THAT OUT THERE THAT, [LAUGHTER], WE ARE TAPPED OUT. OKAY. I'M GOOD OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES MA'AM. COME ON UP.

>> HELLO ME AGAIN. SORRY, I GET NERVOUS WITH PUBLIC SPEAKING. I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT BELLA LAGO. I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS WITH THIS COMMUNITY PROPOSITION THAT SHE HAS BECAUSE JUST SITTING HERE NOW I MET CCF J.NET AND THEY HAVE A WHOLE THING ABOUT THE SCAM OF IT ALL. AND THAT THESE PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THIS COMMUNITY ARE GOING TO BE PAYING A LOT OF MONEY. IN THE BACK END. I THINK SOMEBODY REALLY NEEDS TO DELVE INTO THIS BEFORE WE SAY YES. AS FAR AS WHAT I SAID BEFORE, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK T WHAT WE ARE MOWING DOWN.

WHERE IS THIS EXACTLY? I DON'T KNOW, I'M SORRY I HEARD WHAT SHE SAID BUT, COULDN'T FIND IT QUICKLY. WHAT KIND OF DAMAGE ARE WE DOING TO OUR CLAY COUNTY CREEK BERKELEY COUNTY IS BEAUTIFUL. WE'VE GOT TREES, BEARS, EVERYTHING. NOW I'M DRIVING DOWN TOWARDS GREENE COVE SPRINGS AND I SEE DEAD DEER EVERYWHERE. GETTING MOWED DOWN BY CARS, TRUCKS, BEARS.

YOU HAVE LESS BEARS NOW. ANIMALS ARE COMING TO PEOPLE'S HOUSES. AS THIS CAN AFFECT THAT AREA FOR THIS IS GOING TO BE DONE? I JUST WANT TO KNOW MORE BEFORE WE ALL SAY YES.

YOU JUST SAID YOU DIDN'T WANT TO GO AHEAD AND INVESTIGATE THINGS. LIKE I SAID, JUST READY NOW I SAW A LOT OF IF HE'S GOING ON. YOU'RE AN ATTORNEY OVER THERE MS. GRAHAM.

PLEASE, LOOK INTO THIS. THERE'S PEOPLE'S LIVES GOING TO BEBE AGED AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO PLEASE STAND UP FOR US. I KNOW YOU ARE AND KNOW YOU'RE LOOKING INTO IT BUT, I BELIEVE

WANT YOU TO SAY NO FOR NOW. >> THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE, YES MA'AM?

. >> FILL OUT ANOTHER ONE? YOU CAN ADD THEM TO THE SAME CARD IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE. WE APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. IT'S GREAT.

>> THEY KILL. LATERCORMIER. I'M A SUPERVISOR IN THE CDD COMMUNITY. I'M IN ROLLING HILL' WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THIS PROPERTY. WE'VE DEFINITELY LEARNED DIFFERENT ISSUES AND IN A CDD COMMUNITY. THINGS THAT WERE DONE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE BUT, HAPPENED. AS YOU ALL ARE GOING THROUGH THIS TRYING TO KEEP SOME OF THOSE THINGS IN MIND. THANK YOU MR. BRADWRITE GRANT FOR ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PARKS. IF ANY OF YOU WERE HERE AT THE LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION MEETING THAT WAS SOMETHING I ADDRESSED AS WELL.

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THOSE POCKET PARKS TO GET DEVELOPED BY THE DEVELOPERS. I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL YOU WILL DO THE PLANNING SAID THOSE ARE STRATEGICALLY DONE. AND DEVELOPED. WE HAVE UNFORTUNATELY HAD SOME SEXY OFFENDERS THAT IT MOVED INTO

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>> THANK YOU. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? > YES, ABSOLUTELY.

>> I HAVE 2 CDD SEMI DISTRICT ABOUT MOST OF US ARE RURAL BUT I HAVE ONE THAT'S MORE ESTABLISHED AND I'M GETTING COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT AND I'M NOT GOING TO DAME AND PUBLICLY.

BUT, MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS NOW YOU LEAVE IN A CDD NEIGHBORHOOD. WOULD YOU DO IT

AGAIN? >> OH, THAT'S VERY TRICKY. YES, ABSOLUTELY I WOULD. YES.

>> IF YOU LIKE THE PROTECTIONS ARE BETTER THAN? >> I THINK THERE'S STUFF THAT WE HAVE LEARNED FROM OUR COMMUNITY AND I MOVED IN THERE IN 2018. I DO NOT KNOW THE STUFF. I LIVED IN HOA COMMUNITY BEFORE. THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS I DIDN'T KNOW THAT I LEARN. IN 2020 RAN FOR OFFICE BECAUSE OF WHAT I SAW IN THAT SHINING THE LIGHT STUFF.

THERE WERE THINGS THAT JUST FELL TO THE CLARKS AND ONE OF THEM BEING HOW THE COMMUNITY WAS BEING TAKEN CARE OF. OUR AMENITY CENTER AND JUST WHO OWNS WHAT COMPANY AND HOW THAT RESIDENT IS B I HAD MAJOR ISSUES WITH THAT. I TOOK SOME OPPOSITION AND I TOOK SOME HEAT FOR MY STANCE. TO THE POINT WHERE I WAS NOT ENDORSE BY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS. I WAS OKAY WITH THAT AND I CONTINUED TO GO TO MEETINGS AND I CONTINUED TO BE INVOLVED. I WON MY SEAT AND 2022. SO I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE IF YOU LIVED IN A CDD COMMUNITY GO TO THE MEETINGS. BE INVOLVED BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR COMMUNITY AND IT'S YOUR VOICE AND DURING THOSE FOR 6 YEARS THAT'S WHEN THE DEVELOPER IS TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING GOING AND DOING.

YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU BUY INTO. I THOROUGHLY LOVE ROLLING HILLS. WE ARE SO BLESSED TO HAVE THAT COMMUNITY. WE'VE HAD OLYMPIANS CALEB TRESSEL SWAM THROUGH CLAY HIGH SCHOOL IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE TENNIS COURTS IN THERE.

WHERE PICKLE BALL. WE HAVE A COACH OR THEREABOUTS HELPING DO STUFF. TO ME, HE'S TEACHING THE NEXT GENERATION. SO THE ADVANTAGE IS THAT ARE THERE AND POSSIBLE ARE 100 PERCENT THERE.

WHEN YOU THINK OF OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE IN OUR COUNTY THAT ARE CDD COMMUNITIES, THEY ARE A BLESSING FOR WHOEVER LIVES IN THEM. THEN BEING TAKEN CARE OF

PROPERLY IS ALSO VERY RELEVANT. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> HOLD ON. WE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> THANKS ALAYNA FOR SPEAKING OUT. SO YOU BEEN ELUDING THIS PENTIRE TIME TO WHAT YOU CHARACTERIZE AS IDS FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS AND HE MENTIONED THE POCKET PARKS. CAN YOU NAME 2 OR 3 OTHER THINGS THAT WERE OF CONCERN TO

YOU THAT YOU WISH WERE DONE DIFFERENTLY? >> YES. I WISHED OUR DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE MADE OUR COMMUNITY DEED RESTRICTED ON FIRST OR SECOND HOME BUYERS. SO WE DIDN'T HAVE LEASING COMPANIES COMING IN THERE AND BUYING OUR LAND. WHEN THE MARKET WAS AT ITS PEAK THE INVESTORS HAD BOX OFFERS THAT THEY WOULD PAY IN OUR COUNTY. THEY WOULD PAY 3

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SO THAT HOUSE WAS LISTED AND WE HAD ONE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOUCOULD GO BACK AND LOOK AT. WAS LISTED FOR $315,000. THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A FABULOUS HOUSE FOR SOMEBODY TO BUY. 3 BEDROOM, 2 BATH. YOUR SMALLER SIZE HOME THAT WAS IN THE COMMUNITY. THAT INVESTOR WAS ABLE TO GO IN THERE AND VIA AN BIT OFF THE MARKET AND PAID THAT 340 AND THE SELLERS TOOK IT. IT'S HARD BUT, WHEN YOU BUY INTO A COMMUNITY LIKE THAT YOU DON'T WANT ALL THE RENTALS.

HAVING RENTALS IN THEIR CAN BE DIFFICULT WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO BALANCE THE COMMUNITY ASPECT OF IT. PEOPLE WHEN THEY BUY INTO THEM EVEN IN THE NEW ONE LIKE GREENERY PARK. YOU HAVE TO READ THAT CONTRACT. AND THAT PURCHASE AGREEMENT AND THAT'S WHY WE ADVOCATE FOR YOU TAKING A REALTOR. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. THERE IS A LINE IN THERE THAT TELLS YOU THAT THEY COULD LEASE OUT WHATEVER THEY WANT TO SELL. SO WHEN YOU SIGN THAT CONTRACT YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT. IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT'S NOT THEIR FAULT. THAT'S ON YOU AS SOMEBODY PURCHASING IT. I ALWAYS ADVOCATE FOR TAKING A REALTOR TO THE BUILDER. AND SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. AND, THE POCKET PARKS, THE AFFILIATED BUSINESS AND I FULLY, IF PEOPLE ARE BEING TRANSPARENT THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE FORENSIC AUDIT EVERY 5 YEARS ON THAT MANAGEMENT COMPANY. AND SO WHEN YOU ALL ARE THINKING ABOUT LAWS AND WHAT SHOULD BE AND HOW TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE GOING RIGHT. IF THAT MAN IS BEING SPENT WISELY AND WHOSE PAIN WHO IF THEY HAVE AFFILIATED BUSINESSES. REQUIRING THAT IN A CDD COMMUNITY IS I THINK VERY RESOURCEFUL AND BEING DILIGENT WITH THE MONEY THAT IS THERE.

THOSE WOULD BE MY 3 THAT I'M ADVOCATING FOR AND WOULD LOVE TO SEE MOVING FORWARD.

>> THANK YOU. >> APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS. OKAY DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK OF THE PUBLIC HEARING? I WOULD CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BACK TO THE BOARD. I WANT TO CLARIFY, I'M BAD WITH NAMES FOR FORGOT YOUR NAME. I'M SORRY, MR. WORK. I WANTED TO CLARIFY. THIS IS NOT, IS THIS GOING TO BE A SUBDIVISION? IS IT GOING TO BE A CDD SUBDIVISION? THAT'S OKAY I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. IF YOU ASKED THE QUESTION CHANCES ARE OTHERS HAD AS WELL. SO ANYWAY. THANKS. I WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE

BOARD FOR DISCUSSION AND EMOTION. >> MADAM CHAIR IF I COULD AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ANSWER HER ORIGINAL QUESTION. I DID SOME RESEARCH AND PEOPLE THAT LIVED IN CDD'S ARE GETTING RIPPED OFF OR PAYING HIGHER FEES. YOU DO PAY HIGHER FEES WHEN YOU'RE IN CDD'S BECAUSE THEY PROPERTY THAT THEY'VE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF. THAT OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE OF THE POLLS, OF THE OTHER PARKS ARE ALL COMING OUT OF THAT.

THAT'S AUDIT ON TOP OF YOUR COUNTY TAXES BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY YOUR COUNTY BILL ESTATE TAXES. USUALLY THERE'S HOA FEE OF 75 OR $80 WHICH PAYS THE MASTER HOA TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE CUTTING THEIR GRASS AND NOT PAINTING THEIR HOUSE PURPLE OR WHATEVER COLOR.

THAT'S WHAT YOU BUY INTO WHEN YOU'RE IN A DEEDED NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT, I FOUND I'VE LIVED IN FLEMING PLANTATION FOR 20 YEARS. THE FIRST MEETING EVERYONE TO THE WRIST ALMOST A FISTFIGHT OVER THE FACT THAT THE DEVELOPER WAS ENDING THEIR SUBSIDY SO THE FEES WERE GOING UP HUNDRED $50 A YEAR OR WHATEVER AND LITERALLY ALMOST A FISTFIGHT.

WE FORMED A NEIGHBORHOOD ADVISORY COUNCIL WITH THE RESIDENTS THAT WANTED TO BE INVOLVED IN THE GOVERNMENT EVEN THEY THEY WEREN'T ON THE BOARD. WE USE THAT AS A VERY HEAVY LOBBYING TO MAKE SURE THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE WORKING, IT WAS FOR SYNTAX, THE COMPANY NO LONGER EXIST. THIS PEOPLE ON THE BOARD KNEW HOW WE FELT ABOUT PARTICULAR ISSUES. THEY BECAME DEPENDENT ON HOW WE FELT. IT TOOK THE HEAT OFF THEM AS TO MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YES, YOU WILL PAY MORE. THAT'S ALL DISCLOSE TO YOU WHEN YOU SIGN A CONTRACT AND HE MOVE INTO A PLACE. WE HAVE FOUND IT TO BE NO MORE EXPENSIVE THAN IF YOU BELONG TO A COUNTRY CLUB. WE HAVE 2 POOLS, 7 TENNIS COURTS. SO TO GO PICKLE BALL COURTS. QUITE HONESTLY WE WISH WE MOVED IN EARLIER SORT KIDS COULD GROW UP IN THAT ENVIRONMENT. THEY'RE NOT HERE TO ENJOY IT SO WE ENJOY IT. BUT, YOU WILL PAY MORE. NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. THOSE DOLLARS COME BACK TO YOU IN OTHER WAYS. THE OTHER THING

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THERE'S A POTHOLDER. THE BONDHOLDER PUTS THE CDD'S FEET TO THE FIRE IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT PROPERTY IS IN GOOD SHAPE SO THAT THE BOND GETS PAID OFF AFTER 30 YEARS OR TRY 5 YEARS OR WHATEVER THE BOND IS. LIKE I SAID A VERY COMFORTABLE CDD'S. THERE IS EXTRA FEES. UNFORTUNATELY IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS EVE GOT SOME REALTORS THAT SELL AGAINST CDD'S BECAUSE THERE IS INCREASED MONIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN TERMS OF YOUR FEES AND THEY DO GO THROUGH TAX. WE DON'T GET THAT MONEY ON THE COUNTY LEVEL FROM A CDD IF IT'S INTENDED FOR THE CDD FEE. IT GOES BACK TO LOCAL COMMUNITY UNEXPENDED WITH LIFEGUARDS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE CUTTING THE GRASS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. I JUST WANTED TO ANSWER THAT. IT'S NOT A SCAM. EAGLE HARBOR HAS A CDD, FLEMING ISLAND MENTATION, OAKLEAF, ROLLING HILLS, THEY ARE ALL VERY SUCCESSFUL IN TERMS OF THAT. JUST LIKE ANY FORM OF GOVERNMENT IF YOU DON'T PUT THE HEAT ON THEM IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THEY DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY THEY MAY NOT DO IT. THAT IS PROBABLY WHAT COMMISSIONER CONDON IS RUNNING INTO. THOSE FOLKS SHOULD BE COMPLAINING TO THEIR CITY BOARD AND IF THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY'RE DOING, EVERY 4 YEARS AT LEAST 2 OR 3 OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE PUTTING UP FOR ELECTION AND YOU CAN VOTE SOMEBODY ELSE IN JUST LIKE HELENA GOT VOTED IN THIS TIME.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? > ONE OTHER THING THAT HE PROBABLY SAID, LESS ROADS ARE COUNTING ANSWER TAKE CARE OF. THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THEM?

>> YES A CUSTOMER CDD RATHER THAN THE HOA. THE HOA AS WE BEEN SEEN HAS BEEN IN MANY INSTANCES THE HOA'S ARE EITHER GOING AWAY OR EXPIRED AND THERE'S NOBODY THERE TO TALK TO TO DO WHAT THEY NEED THEM TO DO TO KEEPING UP THERE STORMWATER PONDS OR ROADS OR WHATEVER. IN

THIS CASE THEY WILL BE DOING THAT. >> WITH THE MASTER PLAN THERE IS A RULE ABOUT PARKS BEING SO MANY FEET FROM EACH RESIDENT. CORRECT? IS NOT RIGHT. WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO ENFORCE THAT THEY BUILD THEM IN THE PAST. WE WORKING ON THAT?

>> YOU HAVE TO TALK TO SOMEBODY AND PLANNING. I CAN'T QUOTE THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

>> IT LOOKS LIKE SHE'S ON HER WAY. >> SO YES, THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR OTH NEIGHBORHOOD PARK AND POCKET PARKS. YOU HAVE TO BE WITHIN DEPENDING ON THE ZONING DISTRICT EITHER A THOUSAND FEET OR 1200 FEET FROM A PARK EVERY LOT HAS TO BE WITHIN. PARKER PARKS DON'T HAVE STANDARDS AT THIS TIME. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE HOPING WE CAN ENCOURAGE OUR CONSULTANTS WITH THE LAND DEVELOPING CODE TO HELP US GET SOME REAL STANDARD SO THESE ARE MEANINGFUL PARKS INSTEAD OF JUST LEFT OVER LOT THAT THEY

HAVE TO GIVE US. SO THEY CAN BE USED FOR THAT SPACE. >> HELENA WAS TALKING ABOUT THEY NEVER BUILT THEM SO NOW THEY CAN'T TO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

>> WE CAN CHECK INTO THAT FURTHER. AGAIN, TYPICALLY THE POCKET PARKS ARE REALLY JUST KIND OF A GRASSED AREA. NOT EVEN REALLY RECOGNIZABLE AS A PARK. RESIDENTS DON'T KNOW

THERE'S NOT A SIGN THAT INDICATES IT'S A PARK. >> THAT IS ONE THING WERE

LOOKING OUT TO CHANGE THAT. > YES. >> GREAT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. FURTHER DISCUSSION? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> I WILL SECOND PAID.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING

[20.  Public Hearing for consideration of an Ordinance creating the Lakes at Bella Lago Community Develoment District (C. Grimm)]

>> NO. >> I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ORDINANCE.

ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THAT? IF NOT I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO

THE BOARD. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> WE HAVE A MOTION, TO BE OF A

SECOND? >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? >> I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THE POWERPOINT. IT TOOK ME WAY BACK TO FIRST-YEAR LAW WITH PROPERTY. I WAS LIKE ALI, THAT'S INTENSE. I DO APPRECIATE YOU NOT ASSUMING WE ALL KNEW OR WOULD REMEMBER. IN MY CASEI'M OLD AND WHAT THIS ENTAILS. I THINK IT FUNCTIONS AS A TOOL TO EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY. THESE ARE ACCRETIVE VERY OFTEN. SOMETIMES YOU FORGET. AT LEAST FOR ME I'M NEW TO THE BOARD. THERE'S

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TO SHARE THAT WITH US. >> THE LAWYER LOVE. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE DO LOVE YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING I APPEARED

[22.  Final Public Hearing to consider adoption of CPA-2022-19 and PUD-2022-11. (District 2, Comm. Compere) (D. Selig)]

IN MIDDLEBURG. THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONTINUE THAT. WE HAD ALREADY ADVERTISED A PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAD TO HAVE IT ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT. IF ANYONE IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THE PUBLIC HEARING WE CAN ENTERTAIN THAT. ARE YOU HERE? OKAY. LET ME OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY,

GO AHEAD. >> HI, STACY ROWE WAS, æ I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. I JUST WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE ARE HAVING A COMMUNITY MEETING NEXT TUESDAY AT THE ORANGE PARK LIBRARY AT 2054 PLAINFIELD BEGINNING AT 5:30. NOTICES WERE EMAILED OUT TO EVERYONE THAT WE RECEIVED EMAIL ADDRESSES 2. WE SENT IT TO THE PLANNING STAFF. WE LOOK FORWARD TO EVERYBODY COMING. I JUST WANT TO THANK TERESA AND OTHERS AND STUFF BECAUSE IT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT TIME TRYING TO FIND A PLACE THAT WILL HOST US. WE GOT A LOT OF NOSE.

ULTIMATELY WE FINALLY FOUND THE LIBRARY. I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE COUNTY HELPING

US WITH THAT. >> THANK YOU STACY. YOU ARE MY LITTLE TEAM SCREEN THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE YOU. AT ANY RATE THIS ITEM, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OR, DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON IT? I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I WILL TELL YOU. THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONTINUED IT. THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL NOT HEAR IT AGAIN UNTIL MARCH. FEBRUARY 7. IT WILL BE ON ONE OF OUR FUTURE AGENDAS EITHER FEBRUARY 28 OR THE FIRST MEETING IN MARCH. THERE IS THAT PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL REITERATE IT IS ON, DID ANYBODY WRITE IT DOWN? TUESDAY AT 5:30 AT THE ORANGE PARK LIBRARY. THIS COMING TUESDAY, A WEEK LIBRARY AT 5:30 IF YOU'D LIKE TO MEET WITH THE DEVELOPER AND DISCUSS THAT WAS ONE OF THE OUTCOMES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. I APOLOGIZE IF YOU SAW THROUGH TONIGHT THINKING WE WERE GOING TO HEAR IT. THEY DID CONTINUE IT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. WE CANNOT TAKE IT UP AND VOTE ON IT TONIGHT BASED ON CODE.

>> YOU DO NEED TO DO A MOTION TO CONTINUE A AND B UNTIL FEBRUARY 7. I'M SORRY FEBRUARY

14. >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CONTINUE IT.

>> ALL MAKE A MOTION. DO YOU WANT TO MAKE MOTION? >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO

CONTINUE THIS TO WHA DATE DID YOU SAY? FEBRUARY 28. >> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION, TO

WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AT SECOND TO CONTINUE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I APPEARED MOTION CARRIES 5

[23.  Final Public Hearing to consider CPA-2022-18 and REZ-2022-26. (District 4, Comm. Condon) (M. Brown)]

FOR COMMISSIONER CELLA. HE LIKED THAT ONE. >> I'M EASILY AMUSED.

[LAUGHTER]. >> ITEM 23 IS AN APPLICATION FOR SMALL-SCALE LAND USE A MINUTE FROM COMMERCIAL TO RURAL RESIDENTIAL AND A COMPANION REZONING AMENDMENT OF THE SAME PROPERTY FROM COMMERCIAL PROFESSIONAL TO AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL. THIS IS IN THE HE MIDDLEBURG /CLAY HILL PLANNING DISTRICT. COMMISSION DISTRICT FOR COMMISSIONER CONDON'S DISTRICT. THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD BOTH OF THESE ITEMS JANUARY 17. . JUST A

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ASSOCIATED WITH THE SIEMENS COVE SUBDIVISION AND THE STATED INTENT IN THE APPLICATION IS FOR REQUESTING THE ZONING AND LAND USE CHANGE IS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF A PARCEL SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THE LAND USE CHANGE AS I STATED WOULD CHANGE, YOU CAN SEE A PICTURE OF THE LAND USE. THE RED IS THE COMMERCIAL, 0.9 ACRES OF THE PARCEL. THE YELLOW IS A RURAL RESIDENTIAL. PROPOSED LAND USE CHANGE IN IT OF ITSELF WOULD RESULT IN A DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL REDUCTION FROM THE 2500 SQUARE FEET THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER THE COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION GOING TO THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL WOULD ONLY ALLOW THE SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. SO THERE'S NOT ONLY, THAT WOULD ALSO HAVE A CORRESPONDING REDUCTION IN THE IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT CHANGE. THE ZONING CHANGE WOULD GO AS I INDICATED PREVIOUSLY FROM THE BA2 TO AR. THE AR DESIGNATION IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. IT IS ALSO ALLOWED WITHIN THE PROPOSED RULE RESIDENTIAL LAND USE. THE ZONING WOULD MATCH IF THE LAND USE IS ADOPTED. THE PROPOSED REZONING WILL MATCH THAT FUTURE LAND USE. IN CONCLUSION, COMP PLAN AMENDMENT 2218 IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR 0.9 ACRES FROM COMMERCIAL TO RULE RESIDENTIAL. PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED 7 ¦[SINGING] TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF CPA 22 Ã18. THE COMPANION ZONING 22 Ã26 IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE ZONING MAP FOR THE SAME 0.9 ACRES FROM BA2 TO AR. THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED 7 ¦[SINGING] TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL L OF THE REQUESTED CONTINGENT ON THE APPROVAL OF THE LAND USE CHANGE. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS POINT?

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF MIKE? >> I'VE GOT A QUICK ONE. MIKE, HOW DID WE GET OUT OF WHACK WITH PART OF IT BEING COMMERCIAL AND PART OF IT BEING RESIDENTIAL THERE?

>> AGAIN, BACK IN THE DAY THE COUNTY WHEN THEY ADOPTED THEIR COMP PLAN IN MANY AREAS THEY DID AND THIS IS ONE AREA. THEY TOOK A CERTAIN DISTANCE OFF THE ROAD, 300 Ã400 Ã500 WHATEVER IT WAS INTERLINE. TOTAL DISREGARD OF PARCELS. THAT'S HOW THAT HAPPENED.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> JUST A REMINDER. BUT THIS WILL REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING FOR EACH ACTION. THE COMP PLAN AND THE ZONING CHANGE AND HEARINGS FOR EACH. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME ON STUFF WE TRY TO COMBINE THE COMPANION COMP PLAN REZONING INTO ONE PRESENTATION.

>> OKAY. THE APPLICANT IS HERE, MR. TAYLOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK?

>> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. CHARLES TAYLOR ON THE SUCCESSOR TRUSTEE OF THE TAYLOR FAMILY TRUST. I COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO ASK YOU IF YOU WILL ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COUNTY STAFF AS WELL AS THE COUNTING ZONING DEPARTMENT IN CHANGING THIS PROPERTY FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL. I THINK, I'VE TALKED TO NOT ALL THE RESIDENTS BUT SOME OF THE

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RECOMMENDATION OF THE ZONING BOARD. >> AND IT WILL BE PART OF THE

SIEMENS COVE SUBDIVISION? >> YES MA'AM. >> IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SAVE SOME OF THEM. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT, SAYING NONE I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. YES SIR. COULD OPEN

THE PUBLIC HEARING. NOW YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME ON UP AND US. >> YOU PROBABLY ALREADY ANSWERED MY QUESTION. INAUDIBLE. I LOOKED UP THE ZONING FOR AR IT SAID IT COULD BE 732 SQUARE-FOOT HOUSE AND IT COULD HAVE CHICKENS AND PIGS BECAUSE IT WAS MORE THAN ONE ACRE. THAT WAS MY QUESTION IS IS IT GOING TO BE CONSIDERED PART OF SIEMENS CODE AND HAVE TO MEET SIEMENS CODE COVENANTS, CORRECT? WHICH IS A NUGGET OF 1600 SQUARE-FOOT GARAGE WITH AN ATTACHED GARAGE AND NO CATTLE IT WILL MEET THOSE RESTRICTIONS CORRECT?

>> THE APPLICANT HAS COMMITTED TO THAT. THAT'S BEYOND. >> THE APPLICANT HAS COMMITTED

THAT THE DEED RESTRICTIONS WILL BE IN PLACE. >> I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS GOOD TO

BE LIKE THAT. THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION. >> DON'T GO AWAY DOWN TO HIS YARD HE THERE'S A FULL ON FARM. THEY GIVE ARE COMING AND SPEAKING. DID YOU GIVE US YOUR

NAME? >>.[INAUDIBLE]. >> ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON

THE HEARING? YES SIR. >> CRAIG Ã2720 ANCHOR ACROSS FROM IT. THEY'VE ANSWERED ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS. WITH THAT WHEN HE SELLS THE PROPERTY IF SOMEONE ELSE COMES IN ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE A DEED RESTRICTED SET UP ON THAT? SOMEBODY COULD BUY INTO WHETHER AND TO WHAT

THEY WANT WITH IT. >> IF THE RESTRICTIONS ARE PUT INTO THE DEED THEY WILL HAVE TO

COMPLY WITH THOSE. >> YEAH. WE'RE GLAD IT'S NOT RETAIL AND IT NEVER COULD BE

USED FOR RETAIL I'M GLAD IT'S GOING RESIDENTIAL. >> SURE. THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT. I WOULD

APPRECIATE A MOTION TO APPROVE IF SOMEONE SO CHOOSES. >> MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> I WILL SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR BY SAYING B& IT' ONLY FOR FUTURE LAND USE. WERE GONNA DO THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE DUST. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE CHANGE INDICATE BY SAYING I ALL THOSE

[26.  Final Public Hearing to consider adoption of CPA-2022-20 and PCD-2022-12. (District 5, Comm. Burke) (D. Selig)]

AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL. ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT? SAYING NONE UP CLOSE THE PUBLIC

HEARING AND I WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR MOTION. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE

B. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING I MOTION CARRIES 5 ¦[SINGING]. THANK YOU. THANK

[24.  Public hearing to consider adoption of a resolution closing, vacating and abandoning a portion of Seminole Ave. right of way within the plat of Fellowship Park, recorded in Plat Book 2, Page 61, public records of Clay County, Florida. (R. Smith)]

CONTINUED AGAIN OR WITHDRAWN. >> SO THE APPLICANT WHICH I'M NOT SURE IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE. SO JUMP UP IF I MISS REPRESENTING. MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO WITHDRAW THE REQUEST AT THIS TIME. BASED ON THE COUNTY STORM WATER MANAGEMENT STUDY THAT WERE DOING, DRAINAGE STUDY. THE ONLY THING IS THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THE FEES HE HAS AARTI PAID, NOTE NOT FOR REFUND OF THE FEES THAT HE'S AARTI PAID THAT ONCE THE STUDIES DONE THAT WE ACTIVATE HIS APPLICATION THAT THEY JUST BE APPLIED FOR THAT

REACTIVATION. YEAH. >> OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK? YOU'RE WELCOME TO. I DIDN'T REALIZE THEY WERE HERE. I APOLOGIZE I WAS SLIDING RIGHT OVER THAT.

>> MR. ANDERSON HAS BEEN SO AGREEABLE TO THIS AND I APPRECIATED. I JUST SAW

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FEES AGAIN SO THAT'S WHY ATTORNEY WAS SAYING THAT. >> OKAY. TROY ANDERSON, 1577 Ã ROAD. TALKED ABOUT THIS BACK IN NOVEMBER. CLOSING THIS EASEMENT. I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THE FIRST HUNDRED 50 FOOT OF THIS EASEMENT HAS AARTI BEEN CLOSED A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

IT DOESN'T AFFECT ANYBODY BESIDES US. THE LAND OWNERS. S. THERE ARE NO OTHER LANDOWNERS THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH IT. THE ONE THAT WE DID HAVE, IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY DOG IN THE FIGHT, WE CONTACTED AND THEY NEVER CONTACTED BACK. THIS IS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YOUR NOW. I DO KNOW THERE'S A LOT GOING ONWITH THE WATERSHED EVALUATION AND STUFF IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I SPOKE TO COMMISSIONER BURKE SATURDAY I BELIEVE. AGREED WE COULD PUT THIS OFF LITTLE LONGER AND SEE WITHOUT BRINKS AND GO FROM THERE.

>> MAY END UP BEING MORE BENEFICIAL FOR YOU SO THAT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO WAIT AND

HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION. >> SURE. >> OKAY IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH

THAT. >> ABSOLUTELY. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IN CASE ANYONE

WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. >> THANK YOU. > I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THEY WOULD LIKE US TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT WE WOULD BASICALLY KEEP A CREDIT ON MR. ANDERSON'S APPLICATION SO THAT WHEN IT COMES BACK IT WOULD NOT HAVE TO BRING INCUR A FEE. SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO O CONTINUE AND HE WILL HAVE A CREDIT UNTIL SUCH TIME.

>> OKAY AND WHAT WILL HE BE A CONTINUANCE BECAUSE WE CAN'T CONTINUE IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE. THAT'S WHY IT WILL BE WITHDRAWAL WE WILL BE ADVERTISE THE PUBLIC

HEARING. >> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> I WILL SECOND NORTH CRAWL. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING I ANY OPPOSED? MOTION

[28.  Final Public Hearing to consider LDC 2022-17. (B. Carson)]

THIS IS AN COMMISSIONER BROOKS DISTRICT. STRICT. IT'S 2022 Ã 20. ITEM NUMBER 26 TONIGHT.

>> I'M SORRY TERESA. >> THIS IS TO APPLICATIONS. THERE'S A SMALLALE TRANSIT PLAN AGREEMENT THAT WILL CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE FROM RURAL FRENCH TO COMMERCIAL WHICH IS ON ONE PARCEL OF LAND. AND THEN PCD 2022 Ã12 WHICH IS A REZONING APPLICATION. WHICH WOULD CHANGE THE ZONING FROM 80 RESIDENTIAL AR TO PLANT COMMERCIAL DEPONENT DISTRICT.

THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY MR. FAGAN. IT'S ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF COUNTY ROAD 15 F IS ELAINE. THAT'S RIGHT WERE FOR 315 MAKES A RIGHT-HAND TURN 90 DEGREES. GREAT COVE SPRINGS.

PLANNING DISTRICT, DISTRICT 5. THE PARTIAL IS JUST OVER 6 1/4 ACRE.

PLEASE. ON THE LEFT WHERE THE LOCATION OF IT KIND OF HATCHED AND ON THE RIGHT YOU CAN SEE IT OUTLINED IN YELLOW. I WILL POINT OUT THAT THIS IS JUST NORTH OF THE FUTURE EAST /WEST EXPRESSWAY CONNECTION WHICH WILL BE CALLED CATHEDRAL PARKWAY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

ON THE LEFT WE HAVE EXISTING LAND USE CATEGORY. IT IS SHOWN THERE AS RF. YOU WILL NOTICE THERE IS COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH AND ACROSS ON THE WEST SIDE OF 315 IS ALSO COMMERCIAL.

THEN ON THE RIGHT WE HAVE THE PROPOSED EXPANSION OF THE COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THESE ARE THE ZONING, ON THE LEFT IS EXISTING WHICH IS AR.

YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THE ONLY PIECE REMAINING AR WITHIN PD AREA. ON THE RIGHT IS A PLAN COMMERCIAL DEPONENT. . THIS IS A SITE PLAN. IT'S IN THE WRITTEN DESCRIPTION AS EXHIBIT C. THE INTENDED USE IS RV AND BOAT STORAGE. THOSE NARROW LOTS REPRESENT PARKING SPACES ESSENTIALLY. THE ACCESS IS PROPOSED TO BE DOWN AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THIS

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I THINK WE HAVE THE SAME CONVERSATION LAST MONTH TO CREATE THAT COMMERCIAL USES AROUND A SIGNIFICANT INTERCHANGE THAT CAN HANDLE THE TRAFFIC. THE IDEA BEING YOU COMBINE ACCESS AND STORMWATER THAT KIND OF THING. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ON JANUARY 17 THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD THESE ITEMS. THEY VOTED 5 Ã2 FOR EACH ITEM. RESPECTIVELY TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. STAFF JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE TO ACTUALLY MEET THE 1.4.2 80 PLAN REQUIREMENT THAT THE STAFF, THAT THE APPLICANT EXCUSE ME, SHOULD ESTABLISH SHARE ACCESS ASSIGNED INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE PARCEL IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH OF THIS PARCEL WHICH IS ALSO ALREADY COMMERCIAL. ASIDE FROM THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF BOTH THE FUTURE LAND USE CHANGE AND THE REZONING CHANGE.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. IF YOU'RE ON A CORNER, SO IF YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL ONE SIDE OF YOU AND THEN YOU'RE ON A CORNER. SO YOU CAN HAVE COMMERCIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF YOU? DOES IT

MEET THE INFO? >> NOT TECHNICALLY. RIGHT. >> RIGHT, THE ROAD TURNS.

>> THERE IS NOT THE ABILITY TO HAVE COMMERCIAL ON THE OTHER? >> IT'S WRITTEN TO INTEND TO PREVENT THAT COMMERCIAL FOR MIGRATING. I GUESS YOU COULD SAY IF THE PARCEL KIND OF ON THE OTHER SIDE JUST TO THE EAST OF THEM, THE EXISTING ONE HAD BEEN COMMERCIAL HE WOULD HAVE 2 SIDES OF THE PARCEL. IT'S A WEIRD SHAPE. STAFF RECOGNIZES THAT.

>> OKAY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

>> THIS WILL NOT BE THE MAIN DRAG, PRETTY MUCH. ONCE A NEW ROAD COMES IN. IT REALLY IS CORRECT AXIS IS CHANGING 315. IT WILL BE LIMITEDTED, THE EXPRESSWAY WILL TAKE PRECEDENCE. I DON'T THANK YOU WILL SEE THE PAST BY TRAFFIC. WHICH WILL BENEFIT THE END-USE THAT'S INTENDED. WHEN HAVE AN RV OR YOUR TOWING YOUR BOAT YOU'RE SLOWING DOWN. YOU NEED TIME TO MAKE A PULL OFF. TRAFFIC ON 315 RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE MAKING NOT BENT IT'S VERY HEAVY. ONCE THE NEW EXPRESSWAY IS OPEN MOST OF THE TRAFFIC WILL TAKE THAT ROUTE.

IT WILL BE VERY LITTLE TRAFFIC IN THE BACKSIDE. >> WHICH WAS SOMETHING I WAS DEATHLY CONCERNED ABOUT MY AREA WITH TRYING TO MAKE THE TURN TO GO INTO THE PROPERTY OFF TILL

9. THIS SEEMS MUCH MORE APPROPRIATE TO ME. >> UNDERSTANDABLY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICED IT BUT IN THE WRITTEN DESCRIPTION, THE ONE THING THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING IS TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT THAT THEY BE ON DIRECT ACCESS ONTO A COLLECTOR WHICH ISN'T. FOR THE SAME REASONS YOU JUST BROUGHT UP. STAFF UNDERSTANDS THAT MAY BE

IN THIS CASE IS A GOOD THING. >> COMMISSIONER ÃTEVA QUESTION?

>> CAN YOU GO OVER THE UNIFIED PLAN. >> SURE. CAN YOU BACKUP, THERE YOU GO. SO THERE'S REALLY 3 PARTS OF IT. THE FIRST YOU'RE ADDING A PARCEL THAT INCREASES DEPTH OF COMMERCIAL OF EXISTING COMMERCIAL. NOT ADDITIONAL ROAD FRONTAGE NECESSARILY. IT SHOULD BE CREATING AT LEAST 10 ACRE AGGREGATE OF COMMERCIAL. THE NEXT PART HAS TO DO WITH

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LITERALLY IT SAYS A PLAN TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOP OR A PUD WHICH IN THIS CASE THE APPLICANT IS CREATING A PLANT UNIT. ONLY FOR THEIR PARCEL NOT WITH THE OTHER PIECE.

>> THE IDEA IS TO GET THEM WHAT LOOKS LIKE 10 ACRES. IT REALLY IS IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T OWN

THE OTHER 4 ACRES? IS THAT WITHOUT SENSE? >> YES. FAVORITE PIECE THAT 6.

THE PIECE IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH I BELIEVE IS 13. SO, IN THEORY YOU COULD COMBINE THEM.

THEN YOU'VYOU'D BE OVER 10 ACRE HE STOPPED BY THE PIECE BELOW THEM. IT'S NOT ONE OWNERSHIP AND THEY DON'T HAVE THAT AGREEMENT YET IN PLACE. TO HAVE SHARED ACCESS. ALTHOUGH THERE CREATING A PLAN COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IT'S ONLY ON ONE PARCEL. IT'S NOT REALLY

A FULL ON PCD. IT'S A LITTLE GREAT. >> I JUST DON'T THINK WE NEED

IT BECAUSE IT'S ON THE CORNER. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. >> I MAY COME BACK TO THAT BECAUSE I'M STILL NOT PUNDERSTANDING COMPLETELY HOW THAT ALL WORKS. WE WILL WAIT

TO HEAR. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? COMMISSIONER SAUL IS STILL PROCESSING. MAYBE THE APPLICANT'S AGENT WANTS TO COME UP AND US.

>> MARCUS GROUP B, ATTORNEY WITH ROGER ÃLAWFUL JACKSONVILLE. 1301 RIVERPLACE LAVAR 32207. SO, THE PROPERTY IS THE OLD HOMESTEAD FOR CHARLOTTE ESSAY RIGHT.

EVERYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN CONSUMED IN SARATOGA. THIS IS WHAT'S LEFT. I NEVER ARGUED, IF YOU LOOK AT MY APPLICATION, BOTH APPLICATIONS. I NEVER ARGUED FOR UNIFIED PLAN. THAT WASN'T MY APPROACH TO THIS. TERESA, COULD YOU PUT THE MAPS UP PLEASE. GREAT. OKAY. I WANT YOU TO GO, THAT SOMEONE. THAT'S THE ONE. OKAY. BELOW WAS RIGHT THERE, THAT WHOLE CORNER THAT'S ABOVE THE FIRST COAST CONNECTOR IS WILLOW SPRINGS NORTH. YOU JUST DID THAT LAST YEAR WHERE YOU RECONFIGURED THAT. YOU ADDED SOME ACREAGE, 8 ACRES OR SOMETHING TO AN EXISTING 5 ACRES. MADE THAT ALL COMMERCIAL. I DON'T HAVE ANY EXPECTATION OF BEING ABLE TO COLLABORATE WITH THE COMMERCIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. MY ARGUMENT HAS BEEN AND THAT'S WHAT I MADE IN MY APPLICATION, IS THAT IT CONSTITUTES INFILL. YES IT'S ON THE CORNER. BUT, YOU HAVE, OTHERWISE YOU WOULD HAVE A ROAD THAT MIGHT HAVE SEVERAL INFILL OPPORTUNITIES EXCEPT AT THE END. DON'T THINK THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE PLAN. I WOULD SAY THERE IS A LITTLE PIECE OF THE COMMERCIAL FROM WILLOW SPRINGS NORTH THAT WRAPS AROUND US. IN A WAY, I'M NOT JUMPING UP AND DOWN ON THIS. I DON'T SEE A REAL PRACTICAL WAY AROUND APPROACHING THIS OTHER THAN TO REALLY QUALIFY IT AS INFILL. I DIDN'T TRY TO QUALIFY IT AS A 10 ACRE UNIFIED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. SO TALKING ABOUT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. WE ORIGINALLY HAD PLANNED TO FASHION THE SOFTER WILLOW SPRINGS NORTH. YOUR MEMBER SUSAN FRAZIER CAME IN AND I SAT AND LISTENED TO HER PRESENT THIS. IT WAS QUITE A LIST OF USES THAT COULD BE MADE, COMMERCIAL TYPE USES. BEFORE

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WHERE YOU CAN'T PARK A BOAT. YOU CAN'T PARK IN RV. THAT SORT OF THE MODERN STANDARD NOW FOR SUBDIVISION FILAMENT. BECAUSE OF LOTS ARE SMALL. WHAT ARE THEY IN WILLOW SPRINGS? LIKE 60 BY 100, 120. SO BE LIKE THAT. THIS WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO STORE THEIR BOATS AND RVS AND NOT HAVE TO DRIVE ACROSS THE COUNTY TO DO IT. WE UNDERSTAND THAT 315 IS GOING TO BE BLOCKED ON THE EAST AND WHERE IT'S GOING TO JOIN WITH THE FIRST COAST CONNECTOR. SO PEOPLE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE BYPASS IF YOU WILL TO GO UP. CAN I GO OVER TO THE MOUMAP. WE UNDERSTAND THIS IS GOOD TO BE BLOCKED OFF.

PEOPLE COMING DOWN HERE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO JUMP THE TRAFFIC OVER HERE WHICH WOULD BE A MESS BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE TO GO CROSS TRAFFIC TO DO THAT. THIS WOULD BE ÃROAD FOR MOST PEOPLE. OR 550 FEET MAYBE FROM THE ALIGNMENT FOR, LET ME GET BACK ON THE MIC. WE ARE ABOUT 550 FEET FROM THE ALIGNMENT OF THE FIRST COAST CONNECTOR. CATHEDRAL OAK PARKWAY. I THINK STAFF HAS COVERED IT FROM THERE. STAFF IS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. I APPRECIATE YOUR

FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION. >> QUESTIONS FOR THE AGENT? >> I THINK IT'S A SITE PLAN

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THAT BEEN WORKED OUT? >> WHEN ESSAY BUILT HIS DAIRY, THAT WAS A LOW SPOT. IT WAS PART OF THE FUN PLAYING. HE DUG IT OUT. . HE DIDN'T, HE OWNED ALL OF THAT EAST OF THERE. THAT'S AN AREA HE DUG OUTAND WHY IT WAS SPLIT OFF I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

I BELIEVE IT WILL PROBABLY BE UTILIZED BY WILLOW SPRINGS NORTH. I CAN IMAGINE THEY

WOULDN'T TRY TO PUT WATER IN THERE. >> SO YOU DON'T OWN THE POND?

>> WE DO OWN A PORTION OF THE POND. MOST OF THE POND IS ON OUR PROPERTY. THERE'S A PIECE

OF IT THAT'S OVER IT ON BELOW SPRINGS SIDE. >> GIVE A PERCENTAGE OF THE

POND WHICH YOU'RE GONNA USED TO OFFSET THE RUNOFF? >> THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT.

>> OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS ON ITEM NUMBER 26.

>> I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT CDS AFTER THIS. >> WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO US ON

THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THIS PARCEL? YES MA'AM. >> I'M JANE CORBY 3635 OGLEBAY DRIVE. EVERYBODY IS WORKING ON THE CONCEPTION THAT 315 IS NOT A BUSY ROAD. IT IS A USE.

>> MA'AM, CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE. >> 315 IS A BUSY ROAD. IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE A BUSY ROAD BECAUSE YOU'RE BUILDING A SCHOOL BACK THERE. I THINK IT SHOULD BE COMMERCIAL. IT MAKES SENSE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO BOATS AND RVS, WILL THERE BE A TURN LANE? THERE'S ALREADY A BACKUP AT THAT CORNER IF THERE'S A GARBAGE TRUCK OR ANY OTHER THING THAT NEEDS TO GO UP FOR NOT GOING TO PUT A TURN LANE EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BACKUP ALL THOSE RVS AND THE BOATS THAT ARE TRY TO TURN IN. THERE'S ONLY A LITTLE TINY

DRIVEWAY RIGHT NOW. >> THAT'S NOT GOOD TO BE THE ROAD ANY LONGER.

>> 315 IS NOT GOING TO BE A ROAD ANYMORE? >> NO. WHEN OPERATIVE HAVE

THAT TURN. >> CAN YOU SHOW ME THAT? SO HOW WOULD SOMEBODY GET OUT OF

THE MAGNOLIA WEST AND GET TO THE 17? >> THIS IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO EXIST AS A ROAD. BUT, PEOPLE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GO IN THIS DIRECTION TO GO OUT TO THE FIRST COAST CONNECTOR. THERE WILL BE A BARRIER THERE. PEOPLE WHO LIVED HERE WILL HAVE TO GO DOWN HERE AND EITHER JUMP ON CATHEDRAL OAK PARKWAY IF THEY WANT TO GO OUT TO 17 OR THIS WAY TO GO TO THE EXPRESSWAY OR THIS WAY TO GO DOWN TO 16. THIS ROAD IS NOT GOING TO BE MADE, IT'S NOT GOING AWAY. STRESS GOING TO BE A QUIET ROAD THAT PEOPLE ARE REALLY NOT QUITE USE. PEOPLE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GO LIKE THIS TO 17.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> CATHEDRAL OAKS IS WHERE YOU WILL GO WHEN THEY COME OFF 17

TO GO OUT TOWARDS 218. >> THEN THAT JUMPS ONTO 315? OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> MA'AM, JUST REAL QUICK. >> RIGHT HERE IS AN ACCESS. SO IT'S BLOCKED. THIS PART IS BLOCKED. THESE PEOPLE THAT LIVED ALONG HERE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK HERE. THERE'S AN ENTRANCE HERE WHERE YOU WILL ENTER ON CATHEDRAL WAY.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE ARRANGED SO THAT PEOPLE CANNOT TRY TO GAIN THE SYSTEM AND I'M IN A HURRY.

JUST GONNA GO UP 315 AROUND THE CORNER AND TRY TO GET ON OUT TO 17.

>> I THINK IT WILL GET THERE A LOT FASTER WITH CATHEDRAL OAKS.

>> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. THIS IS ONLY ON THE FUTURE LAND USE THAT WE NEED TO DO ONE ON THE

ASSOCIATED ZONING. >> I WILL MOVE APPROVAL FOR FUTURE LAND USE.

>> OKAY. >> I SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

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THE COUNTRY. YOU CAN PARK IT IN YOUR YARD. ANYWAY. >> ME TOO.

>> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ACTUAL USAGE. I THINK THE RV AND BOAT STORAGE IS PROBABLY A GOOD SOLUTION THERE. MY PROBLEM IS WITH THE UNIFIED PLAN. I'M HUNG UP ON THIS 6 ACRES EMMA IS A 10 ACRES? IS IT INFILL? WE HAVE A STORMWATER POND IS PARTIALLY ON THE PROPRTY BUT THE PARTY WORKED IT OUT SO THEY'VE GOT A PART. I COULD THEY DO THE UNIFIED PLAN? THEN THE OTHER ASPECT OF THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE ON MAJOR ROAD COLLECTOR, MINOR COLLECTOR. THOSE EXIST ONLY IN OUR IMAGINATION AT THIS POINT AND MR. SMITH'S DRAWING TABLE. I UNDERSTAND JOHN WANTS TO GET STARTED VERY QUICKLY TO OPEN THIS THING AND GET IT RUNNING. IT'S GOOD BE RUNNING FOR 2 YEARS BEFORE WE GET CATHEDRAL OAK PARKWAY IN PLACE.

ACTUALLY THE LADY THAT CAME UP THERE, SHE'S RIGHT. UNTIL THEN THEY ARE GOING TO GO AROUND THAT HAIRPIN TURN AND WEIGHT BEHIND SOMEBODY THAT'S DRIVING AN RV OR BIG BOAT TRYING TO GET IN. THAT'S MORE OF A PROBLEM. I THINK THE RV AND BOAT STORAGE PROBABLY A GREAT CHOICE ESPECIALLY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE GOING TO POP UP RIGHT AROUND IT.

ADJUSTING, HOW SOON ARE WE SUPPOSED TO APPROVE SOMETHING BEFORE, IF THE ROAD IS THERE IN

MY MIND IT'S A NO-BRAINER. THE ROAD IS IN THERE. >> CAN WE NOT WAIT?

>> DEVELOPMENT IS NOT THERE EITHER. >> THAT'S THE ENTREPRENEUR'S CHOICE. HE TAKES THAT RISK. WHETHER HE THANKS THE MARKET IS READY FOR IT OR NOT. THAT'S HIS CHOICE. MY THING IS TO BE SET A PRECEDENT WITH SO MANY THING COMES IN AND SAYS, OH YEAH IT'S GOING TO BE A MAJOR COLLECTOR ROAD AND READY TO PUT SOMETHING IN HERE BUT IT'S NOT A COLLECTOR ROAD YET OR MAJOR OR MINOR OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS. THAT TO ME IS A TUMBLING BLOCK AS FAR AS TH IS CONCERNED. THE USAGE, I'VE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT AT ALL.

>> I HEAR YOU. THE PROPERTY BE CITED THAT HIS OWN COMMERCIAL I WOULD THINK WOULD RAISE MORE.

I USE THAT ROAD QUITE A BIT. THAT'S HOW I COME UP TO FLEMING ISLAND. FROM WEAR AND LIFT.

IT'S MARK 25, NOBODY GOES 25. BUT, AT THE SAME E TIME, AND WE DIDN'T HEAR IT TONIGHT BUT, THE LAST TIME WHEN WE WERE GOING TO DENY RV AND BOAT STORAGE WE HAD 5 OR 6 PEOPLE HERE. SAYING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO PUT THEIR RVS AND BOATS. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS THE THING. SO THE REGULAR COMMERCIAL WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE A COLLECTOR ROAD.

IT'S RVS ON THAT WAY. BECAUSE THIS HAS HAD THAT HOUSE ON IT I GUESS YOU GONNA TEAR THE HOUSE

DOWN OR SOMETHING? >> OH YEAH. AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED THE FASTER THE

BETTER. >> THE HOUSE HAS THE BLUE TARP ON THE ROOF FOR LIKE 5 YEARS OR

SO. >> I LIKE TO KNOW HOW FAST ARE WE THINKING? I MEAN B& LIKE IT

WOULD OPEN IN THE SUMMER? >>.[INAUDIBLE] >> JOHN?

>> JOHN FAGAN 2341 FOOTLOCKER COURT LIKE A RASPBERRY. >> SHE GOT HER QUESTION

ANSWERED. >> WE WILL HAVE ENGINEERING START IN A CONCEPT FORM WERE

READY TO MOVE FORWARD AS SOON AS WE CAN GET APPROVAL. >> THIS IS ABOUT A YEAR AND AND

A HALF BEFORE CATHEDRAL OAKS SHOULD BE DONE. CORRECT? >> I DO THINK FROM ANY CONCERN ABOUT IT AFTER MAKE A LARGE PULL OFF FOR RVS AND BOATS TO PULL OFF. THEY REQUIRE US, THE PLANNING AND BUILDING PEOPLE TO HAVE AN AREA WHERE THEY COULD GET COMPLETELY OFF THE ROAD

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PERHAPS YOU MIGHT HAVE WEEKEND TRAFFICKED THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED THERE. DURING THE WEEK, PEOPLE JUST NOT ACCESSING THESE PLACES. THEY GO PICK UP THEIR BOAT MAYBE ON FRIDAY EVENING OR SATURDAY MORNING AND THEY GO AND THEN THEY BRING IT BACK THE NEXT DAY. THAT'S ABOUT HOW IT WORKS. THEN IT JUST SITS THERE FOR WHO KNOWS HOW LONG UNTIL THEY COME AGAIN.

IT'S JUST A VERY SPORADIC AND LOW TRAFFIC KIND OF USAGE WHICH IS WHY THE PEOPLE IN FUZZY LANE THOUGHT, OH, THAT'S GREAT. IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY FROM A FACILITY THERE THAT'S GETTING CONSTANT EVERYDAY TRAFFIC LIKE RETAIL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT YOUR FLOW OF TRAFFIC IS DAILY AND SOMETIMES INTO THE NIGHT. THIS DOESN'T HAVE MUCH TRAFFIC EVEN AFTER DARK. PEOPLE WANT TO GET THEIR BOAT BACK AND GET IT DONE AND GO HOME. I DON'T THINK THAT IS GOING TO B A BIG ISSUE FOR THE SHORT PERIOD OF TIME THAT WERE LOOKING OUT. TO HAVE THAT KIND OF ACCESS PROBLEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. ONCE THAT ROAD IS CUT OFF I DOUBT ANYBODY EXCEPT PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN THAT AREA ARE GOING TO GO DOWN THERE BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY A SNARL. WHY WOULD YOU GO THAT WAY OPPOSED TO GOING ON A 4-LANE HIGHWAY THAT GETS YOU RIPPED RIGHT AROUND AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. I JUST SEE IT AS A VERY SHORT WINDOW OF ANY PROBLEM THERE BUT IS JUST GOING

TO EXIST IF AT ALL. >> AND ARE NOT BE FULLY OPEN RIGHT AWAY. IT WILL TAKE TIME

TO GET NEW CUSTOMERS. >> YEAH. >> IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SECTION OF ROAD FROM 17 OVER 2 315 IS ALREADY UNDER CONTRACT AND CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO START WITHIN 4 MONTHS. YES, THERE MAY BE SOME GAP BETWEEN OPENING AND COMPLETION OF THAT ROAD. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE ONE MORE THING FOR MR. CELLA. THAT IS THAT I DO NOT ADVOCATE IN MY APPLICATION FOR THE ALTERNATIVE WHICH IS THE 10 ACRE UNIFIED PLAN AFTER FILAMENT. IT WAS IN THE ALTERNATIVE. YOU COULD EITHER BE INFILL OR YOU COULD BE A 10 ACRE UNIFIED PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT. IF YOU LOOK AT MY APPLICATION I MAKE NOTE OF THAT PROVISION OF THE PLAN BUT, MY ARGUMENT IS STRICTLY ON AS THE QUALIFIER. NOT UNIFIED PLANNER.

>> I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. ON OUR SIDE I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE CLEAR AS WE MOVE FORWARD. BECAUSE TO ME, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT GIVES US BAD REPUTATION WITH PEOPLE COME IN AND SAY WELL YOU COULD DO THIS AND YOU COULD DO THAT.

DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE ROAD. YOU COULD BUILD IT BEFORE THE ROAD IS EVEN BUILT.

>>.[INAUDIBLE] >> THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> RICHARD WHEN WE SAY THAT'S

GOING TO BE DONE? IS THAT STILL 2025 ALSO? >> YES.

>> HAS TO BE. >> MARCH? P>> AND HONORABLE.

>> AT THE LATEST MARCH 2025? 5? >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE PRICING I. THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 4 Ã WOW. W. NOW WE HAVEE VE ASSOCIATED REZONING FROM AR TO PLAN COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WANTING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I LL GET BACK TO THE BOARD.

>> I WILL MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> I WILL SECOND THE MOTION. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE PRICING I. THOSE

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 4 Ã ONE BACK. >> ITEM NUMBER 28 FINAL PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER LTC 2022 Ã 17. PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE 2 OF THE LAND

DEVELOPMENT CODE. THIS CARSON. >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONTINUED THIS TO THEIR FEBRUARY 7 MEETING. WE WILL ASK YOU TO DO

THAT AS WELL. >> I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IF ANY WOULD LIKE TO

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>> SO MOVED. QUICK SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE PRICING I. THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5 Ã0. WE'RE GOING BACK TO OLD BUSINESS. WE

[17.  FY 2023-2024 Legislative Appropriations Projects (M. Mosley)]

>> YES. MAKE IT MOSTLY WITH THE GRANTS DIVISION. ONE QUICK UPDATE. WE DID RECEIVE SOME GOOD NEWS AND OLD BUSINESS TODAY ABOUT 2 OF OUR E- 911 STATE GRANTS WE SUBMIT IT BACK IN NOVEMBER. WE SHOULD BE RECEIVING GRANT AGREEMENTS AND AWARDS FOR BOTH OF THOSE TOTALING $388,000 TO SUPPORT 911 CALL CENTER. THOSE WILL BE ON THE FEBRUARY CONSENT AGENDA.

BUT, THIS ITEM IS TO DISCUSS THAT LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATIONS PROJECTS. THIS IS OLD BUSINESS FROM THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES WORKSHOP ON JANUARY 6. THE FOLLOWING PROJECTS WERE DISCUSSED AT THAT WORKSHOP. BRING THE BLOCK TO THE BOARD TO GET SOME CONSENSUS ON WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO SUBMIT. FOR CONSIDERATION. SO, THE 6 PROJECTS LISTED ARE THE SWEAT PROGRAM, THIS IS AN ANNUAL ASK FOR $250,000. THE OTHER 5 PROJECTS ARE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. WE FOUND FROM PAST EXPERIENCE THAT SUITES BOB FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IS USUALLY $750,000 ASK TO A MILLION-DOLLAR ASK. THAT'S WHY THIS PROPOSED FIGURES ARE THERE. BUT, WE ARE HERE TO TAKE DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD ABOUT HOW YOU WOULD LIKE US TO

PROCEED WITH THESE PROJECT PROPOSALS. >> OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? [INAUDIBLE]. COMMISSIONER SOLA, YOUR MICROSOFT.

>> SORRY. THERE'S A COUPLE OF THEM. THE ONE THAT CAUSES ME SOME PAUSE NOT BECAUSE I THINK WE MAY NEED IT BUT, IF WE GET A MILLION-DOLLAR CRAP FOR SUBSTANCE ABUSE RECOVERY CENTER. WHERE DO WE GET THE ADDITIONAL MONIES TO ACTUALLY BUILD THE FACILITY AND HOW FAST IS GOING TO BE AND WHAT IS THE MASS GOING TO BE. THE STATE DELEGATION USUALLY HAS, I'M GIVING YOU THIS MONDAY BUT YOU GOTTA SPEND EQUAL MONEY. AL MONEY. IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY IF IT IS HAVOC ON A MUCHTHINK THE ESTIMATES ON BUILDING A FACILITY LIKE THAT WERE WERE 3 Ã4 MILLION? FROM WHAT I REMEMBER IN TERMS OF CIP THERE IS AN A LOT TO SQUEEZE OUT TO GET ANOTHER 3 MILLION, 2 OR 3 MILLION OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. WE MAY GET GRANTS AND DOLLARS AND FROM THE OPIOID SETTLEMENTS. THAT'S A MAYBE. I SEE TROY LURKING SO HE MUST

HAVE SOME KIND OF RESPONSE THERE. >> I WILL YIELD THE FLOOR.

>> THANK YOU SORE. >> WILL BE TOTALLY. >> COUPLE E OF RESPONSES. 1, WE HAVE THE UPDATED SETTLEMENTS. WE DID RECEIVE OUR FIRST TRENCH OF MONEY IF YOU WANT TO SAY OR ALLOCATIONS I THINK 300,000 I THINK IT ROUGHLY WAS. WE'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS. THE COUNTY MANAGER, CHIEF MARK, GABBY AND MYSELF WENT UP AND MET WITH LUTHERAN SERVICES ABOUT THEIR FUNDS. THEY'RE GETTING THE STATES ALLOCATION THROUGH THEM.

IT'S VERY POSITIVE I THINK AS FAR AS ALL DEFERRED TO THE COUNTY MANAGER IF HE FEELS OTHERWISE. THAT WE COULD USE OUR PART OF THE MONEY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING WHETHER THAT'S A LEASE OR LONG-TERM WE WOULD HAVE TO DISCUSS THAT IF WE GOT AN APPROPRIATION FROM THE STATE. THE MONEY FROM LUTHERAN FAMILY SERVICES WILL BE USED TO DO THE INTERIOR STUFF. THE BANDS, THE PEOPLE, ALL THAT STUFF. I DO THINK WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS IF MANY CAME AVAILABLE THROUGH THE STATE. I THINK THAT HOPEFULLY ANSWER THE QUESTION.

>> YEP. I FEEL BETTER ABOUT THAT ASPECT OF THINGS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE PLACED IN CIP AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE THOSE GET DISPLACED OR PUSHED OUT. IN A NUMBER OF YEARS WE GET IN A SITUATION WHERE STOCK IN TERMS OF PAYING FOR THAT.

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>> I WILL SAY FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT AS WELL. THEY DO ASK YOU TO SUBMIT ANY SORT OF MATCHING FUNDS ARE FUNDS IDENTIFIED IN CIP. YOU CAN HAVE A FULL SENSE OF WHAT'S

AVAILABLE FOR THE PROJECT. >> ALSO, IN DEALING WITH THE FACILITY IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

THAT A LOT OF PARTNERSHIPS WITH CORPORATIONS AND I MEAN I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ESTABLISH GETTING NOT GOING BUT THAT WAS WONDERFUL TO SEE. I DON'T SEE WHY WE COULDN'T DO THE SAME.

TO HELP GET THOSE FUNDS. >> MADAM CHAIR. WE EVEN HAD A MEETING IT WAS LAST WEEK WITH A GROUP AND THEY BUILD FACILITIES AND FOR OUR AGED COMMUNITY. WE ALSO TALK TO THEM ABOUT THIS IN A FACILITY HERE. OF WHICH IF THEY BUILT IT THEN WE COULD LEASE IT FROM THEM. SO THAT IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE AND I'M SURE THESE MONIES COULD BE USED TOWARDS THAT TO HELP US OUT. WE'VE LOOKED AT OTHER BUILDINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE PRE-STANDING IF THEY BECOME VERY DIFFICULT ON THE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU NEED FROM ALKA AND OTHER AGENCIES WITH REGARDS TO MEDICAL FACILITIES IN THAT. WE'VE BEEN, IS WITH THEM. LUTHERAN SERVICES DID GO VERY, VERY WELL. SO THEY KNOW OUR IDEAS AND WITH THE BOARD'S DESIRE IS TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS TYPE OF FACILITY. SO THERE'S ADDITIONAL REHABILITATION BEYOND THE PARAMEDICS INSIDE TO GET PEOPLE BACK ON THEIR FEET. OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD BE LIMITED THE BED SIZE. I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT 20 BEDS AT APPROXIMATE NUMBERS.

>> GABBY AND I HAVE BEEN READING WITH PLATE BEHAVIORAL, THANK YOU. I READ WAS HERE AND SHE HAD A LEAF UNFORTUNATELY. THANK YOU GABBY, I TOTALLY LOST MY TRUCK THERE. WHAT IS OUTLOOK LIKE FOR EPIC? WHAT IS EPIC SIZE LOOK LIKE OVER IN ST. JOHN'S MIRRORING WHAT THEIR STARTUP WAS. HAVING ENOUGH EXPANSION SPACE. IN TALKING TO THE GROUP THE CAYMAN ABOUT PRICING FOR BUILDING SIZE AND PRICE OF THE BUILDING. LOOKING AT 18 TO 20,000 SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING TO CONSOLIDATE SOME OF THOSE OTHER SERVICES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. SO I THINK THAT

ANSWERS WHAT YOU'RE GOING FOR. >> THAT BRINGS UP AN INTERESTING QUESTION ABOUT LOCATION. BECAUSE, IT NEEDS TO BE LOCATED NEAR WHERE THE ACTUAL PATIENTS ARE. WE KNOW 60 PERCENT OF OUR OVERDOSES HAPPEN WITHIN A 2 MILE RADIUS OF THE WINN-DIXIE AT MIDDLEBURG AT BLENDING. SO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU START THINKING ABOUT THE BUILDING OF THAT SIZE AND YOU THINK ABOUT, OR TRY TO REVIVE DELAYS BLANDING BOULEVARD. IN THAT EXISTING FACILITIES, THIS BECOMES VERY COMPLICATED BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF LAND OUT THERE AND SO.

>> I THINK IT'S IN A STRIP MALL KIND OF THING. YOU NEVER WOULD THINK THAT'S WHAT'S THERE. I WAS VERY IMPRESSED AND VERY SURPRISED. WE HAVE PLENTY OF THOSE AREAS. IT'S KIND OF LIKE HIDDEN. THE COMMUNITY DOES KNOW IS THERE. THEY SAID THEY REALLY HAVEN'T HAD ANY NEGATIVE

FEEDBACK REGARDING IT. >> 20,000 SQUARE FEET IS LIKE SIZE OF A SMALL WALMART. I OWN AN OLD TRUE VALUE HARDWARE STORE AND ITS 14,000 SQUARE FEET. YOU'RE TALKING A LOT

BIGGER THAN THAT AND. >> THIS IS LIKE AN AL SHAPE. >> OF JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW.

>> THAT WAS NOT ONLY TO DO THAT BUT CONSOLIDATE SOME OTHER SERVICES. BASICALLY ALLOW SOME SPACE IN THE BUILDING FOR SIMILAR SERVICES TO BE LEASED OUT BY THE COUNTY TO MAYBE A CLAY BEHAVIORAL WITH THOSE TYPE OF SERVICES. SINCE ARE ALSO SPREAD OUT TO THE COUNTY THAT'S LIKE SERVICES. YOU COUD SAY FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE EPIC WISTFUL THOUSANDS WHERE FEET.

SO, THEY GIVE YOU KIND OF A BACK-AND-FORTH PERCEPTION. HE WANTED TO LOCATE YOUR COMMUNITY PARAMEDICS AND IN SAME BUILDING AND GET OUT OF THE LEASE YOU WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ADDED SPACE FOR CONSOLIDATING THOSE SERVICES. IT'S A POOR DECISION OF A, IS THIS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CONSIDER IS A LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY. IF IT'S NOT IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE? IF THE ANSWER IS NO WE'VE GOT A LOOK AT WHAT ELSE YOU'RE GOING TO USE THOSE OPIOIDS FUNDS FOR IN THE OTHER FUNDS IN THE FUTURE. I THINK THERE'S SEVERAL DECISION POINTS FOR THE BOARD TO MAKE ALONG THIS LINE. AND THEN OF COURSE MADAM CHAIR, ONCE ALL THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE AND WE START GOING DOWN THE PATH, LOCATION, LOCATION,

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LOCATION. >> I THINK COMMISSIONER CELLA MAKES A GOOD POINT. WE HAVE IT AS NUMBER 3 ON OR ASK LIST. WE GOTTA BE READY TO DO IT. IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE ARE.

MAYBE IT NEEDS TO BE NUMBER 6. >> ARE NOT NECESSARILY RANKED. >> DO WE GET TO PICK THE RANK?

>> WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO RANK THEM. THESE ARE JUST THE 6 PROJECTS THAT CAME OUT OF THE WORKSHOP. THEY'RE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. STAFF WANTS TO KNOW WHICH OF THE 6 WE WANT TO

SUBMIT. >> WHEN OUR DELEGATION LOOKS AT THEM AND WHEN SOUTHERN GROUP

GOES IN ADVOCATES THERE'S GOING TO BE A RANK. >> MAYBE WE NEED TO DEFINE THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT. THIS ISN'T REALLY BRAKING SYSTEM. WE SUBMIT APPLICATIONS INTO THE APPROPRIATION COMMITTEE. WE DON'T PROVIDE A RANKING. BASICALLY HERE'S A 6 APPLICATIONS, THE 10 APPLICATION, THE 12 APPLICATIONS WE WANT. WHICH ONES HONESTLY COMES DOWN TO WHAT DOES THE SENATOR AND REPRESENTATIVE WANT TO BACK.

THEY COULD COME BACK TO US AGAIN, IT'S GREAT THAT YOU WANT THE 6 BUT WE DON'T SUPPORT TO WITH THOSE. THEY DON'T EVEN PUT THEM OUT OR PUSH THEM FORWARD. THERE IS TO YOUR POINT SOME WITHOUT REPRESENTATION BUT, WE DON'T REALLY GET ASKED TO RANK THESE PRODIGIOUS ABUTTING APPLICATION TO OUR LEGISLATORS TO SAY, WILL THE AVON SUPPORT THE BILL.

>> I THINK WITH COMMISSIONER CONDON IS TALKING ABOUT, ARE WE STILL IN THE GAME PLAN TO PUT A

PALM CARD TOGETHER? >> I THINK THAT SEPARATE AND APART FROM THIS. THIS IS

BECAUSE OF THE DEADLINE. >> THE SENSE OF URGENCY WAS FOR FEBRUARY 13.

>> THAT'S THE DAY BEFORE NEXT MEETING. >> LISTEN, I FULLY SUPPORT RECOVERY CENTER. I AGRE WITH YOU COMMISSIONER CELLA. MILLION DOLLARS IS NOT ENOUGH AND HOW WOULD WE PAY FOR IT? I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING COMMISSIONER BURKE ABOUT PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND LUTHERAN SERVICES AND YOU KNOW HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL COME THROUGH. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A POSITION WE HAVE TO GIVE BACK.

>> MY CONCERN IS COMMISSIONER CELLA SPOKE TO HIS CARE FOR WHAT YOU WISH FOR. YOU MAY GET IT. WHAT I PROPOSE IS WE DO AN LOI OR OSS IN A LETTER INTENT. WORDS ARE CHEAP TODAY. THEY

CAN'T DO THAT? >> YOU GOT TO REMEMBER ELIPHAZ CAN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A FACILITY. THE CAT TO A LETTER OF INTENT SAYING THERE COULD GIVE YOU MONEY IN THE FUTURE TO FUND OPERATIONAL COST TO A FACILITY THAT IS IN EXCESS. I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN A BASEBALL. YOU WERE THE CHIEF ARE THERE. THEY'VE GOT MONEY GRANTS THAT THINGS ARE NOT SPENDING. THEY HAVE NO FEAR THAT THEY COULD DO THE SERVICES FOR CLAY COUNTY. I DON'T THANK YOU CAN ASK THEM FOR LETTER OF INTENT FOR SERVICES THAT. IT'S KIND OF

THE CHICKEN AND THE EGG. >> KIND OF PUTTING AN RV AND BOAT STORAGE IN A COLLECTIVE

THAT'S NOT THERE YET. >> 2 QUESTIONS, ONE WOULD BE FOR YOU ONE IS FOR COUNTY MANAGER. IF WE GOT THE MILLION DOLLARS COULD WE SECURE A FACILITY FOR THE MILLION DOLLARS? AND OR WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT COULD THEY BUILD IT THAT WE LEASE IT BACK FROM THEM. IS THERE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT. LIKE THE MILLION DOLLARS AS THE DOWN

PAYMENT. >> AT LEAST BY. > OR SOMETHING I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THESE BACK BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ARREST THE FLOODING. UNDER STANDARD CHICKEN AT A CONCEPT THAT WE HAVE TO GO FIND THE FUNDING AND WE CAN'T GO FIND THE FUNDING FOR SURE.

UNTIL WE HAVE IT. I GUESS, IT'S JUST A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND $1 MILLION PROJECT THAT

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE KNOW ENOUGH. >> THE ONLY REASON TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST THAT WE PUT IT BACK ON THE LIST IS REMEMBER THIS IS ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT THE STATE HAD FUNDED WITH HUNDRED $75 MILLION THAT ARE REPRESENTATIVES SUPPORTED PREVIOUSLY. BECAUSE OF HURRICANE IAN THEY PULLED THE MONEY BACK. DUE DILIGENCE WE FELT OUT OF RESPECT FOR ALBERT LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION BUT SINCE THEY GAVE US THE MONDAY BEFORE WE SHOULD PUT IT BACK IN. IF THE BOARD'S DECISION IS WAIT A YEAR.

>> THE CHANCES WE GET IT WE GET IT. IF THE BOARD'S DECISION IS TO WAIT A YEAR I UNDERSTAND THE DECISION. THAT'S WHERE OUR RATIONALE CAME FROM. TO GET THE WHOLE PICTURE. RE.

>> WE KNOW WE HAVE A PROBLEM. >> MADAM CHAIR? > YOU CAN'T GET WHAT YOU DONE ELSEWHERE. I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. N, BY THE TIME THE FUNDING WOULD COME TO BE THROUGH OUR

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>> I DON'T THINK THEY COULD DO THAT. THEY HAVE TO BALANCE THEIR BUDGET. THEIR PREPARATIONS ARE ANNUAL. THE OTHER THING THAT COMES TO MIND IS EVERYTHING WE HAVE DONE.

EVERYTHING HAS BEEN OVERBUDGET. SO, CAN WE ASK FOR 2 MILLION? I'M JUST SAYING BECAUSE OF MILLION WE CAN'T EVEN GET STARTED FOR $1 MILLION. WE ASKED THE REGIONAL PARK, THE GOVERNOR GAVE US MONEY FOR THE REGIONAL PARK AND WE HAD TO MATCH IT AND IT DIDN'T DO THE

JOB. >> I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE ASK FOR $3 MILLION.

>> ARRIGO. >> LET'S BE REALISTIC. AND I AGREE. I THINK TO BACK UP TROY. WE PICKED THE BAND BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE BASICALLY LOST. OR IT WASN'T OBTAINED. I TAINT LET'S BE REALISTIC. LET'S ASK FOR THE $3 MILLION. WE WOULD BE IN A LOT BETTER SPOT FOR HAVING $3 MILLION. I THINK THAT ANSWERS THAT. > LOOK, WE'VE APPLIED FOR GRANTS FOR THE FAIRGROUNDS FOR CERTAIN AMOUNT AND THEY GIVE US LESS. SO, THEN IT'S UP TO US WHETHER OR NOT WE THINK. THEY ALSO ALWAYS ATTACH THAT PESKY ONE YEAR DEADLINE ON US.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT ONE PROJECT THAT WE MADE IN ONE YEAR.

>> YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SECURE FACILITY AND GET STARTED. >> TO SHOW THAT THERE IS PROGRESS AND YOU WANT AN EXTENSION. NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. I'VE EXPRESSED MY FEARS ABOUT THAT. I THINK IF WE GO THAT DIRECTION AND SUPPORT THAT AND SEE WERE BEGUN.

>> ASPER 3 INSTEAD AND IF THEY GIVE US TO THEN WERE BETTER OFF THAN ONE.

>> OR GIVE US HALF A GROUT WHERE WE CAN GO TO TRY TO US TO A POINT WE CAN MAKE IT WORK.

>> OKAY. I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. OTHER DISCUSSION ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS?

>> I WANT THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA GREENWAY TRAIL. >> YOU DON'T WANT IT?

>> I DO WANT IT. DIRECTION, THAT'S WHAT SHE WERE ASKING FOR RIGHT?

>> ÃMADE SURE TO TELL US IT WAS ON THE TOP OF THE LIST LAST YEAR.

>> 2, NO WE DIDN'T LOSE THAT ONE. LIVE OAK LANE, LIVE OAK LANE AS PART OF THIS. RIGHT?

>> THAT'S WHAT WE RECEIVED LAST TIME. YES MA'AM. THAT'S $1 MILLION.

>> AND HOPEFULLY THEY ARE GOING TO PAY FOR IT SOON. >> THEN WE ADDED THE REGIONAL

PARK. >> THE OTHER THING IS AGAIN ON THAT ONE IS THE NUMBER RIGHT? IF YOU KNOW THAT THE GREENWAY TRAIL SAYS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN, BOARDMAN WANTED DIFFERENT COMFORT LEVEL WANT TO ASK FOR ON THE GREENWAY ORTH EAST FLORIDA GREENWAY. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING YOU NEED TO CONSIDER. AS THE ASK, THE RIGHT ASK.

>> WAS LAST YEAR. [LAUGHTER]. THAT'S WHEN GOING BY. >> THE GREENWAY TRAIL ONE WILL CHANGE IF WE DON'T GET THROUGH THE TPO DOT TO FIX THE BLACK CREEK TRAIL.

>> YEAH. >> OR THE GUYS INSURANCE COMPANY THAT RAN INTO IT. I'M

STILL HOLDING OUT HELP. COURTNEY IS GOOD AT HER JOB. >> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD ON THE COUNTY WAREHOUSE FACILITY. I DON'T REMEMBER TO MUCH ABOUT THAT BEING DISCUSSED DURING THE

WORKSHOP. WHERE WAS THAT GOING TO BE LOCATED? DO WE KNOW? >> THAT WAS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CAMP LANDING. IT WOULD HELP US PARTNER WITH THEM. IT'S IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION OF THE BURNED BUILDING. YES SIR. THEY ASKED US TO DELAY ON THAT OR I THINK SOME FISCAL CONSTRAINTS THIS YEAR AND SO WE SAID WHEN WE ARE TALKING INTERNALLY FOR THE STAFF WE SAID, THIS WOULD HELP US PARTNER WITH THEM INTO HAVING A LOCATION FOR FTM AND OUR

EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO STORE EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ARE

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MADE. >> I WILL MOVE APPROVAL WITH THE CHANGE TO THE SUBSTANCE

ABUSE TO 3 MILLION. >> IS NOT GOOD? >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

SECOND. TROY, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? >> AT THIS TIME WERE JUST SUBMITTING THE PROJECT REQUEST FORMS AND ONCE PUBLISHED ON THE STATE WEBSITE WOULD GET THAT TO STATION FORMS BACK AND IT WILL GO TO THE CHAIR FOR SIGNATURE. THAT WILL BE A SECOND AGENDA

ITEM. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER

DISCUSSION? >>HOW DO WE GET THAT TO THE STATE DELEGATION? IS THERE A TIME CRUNCH AFTER WE FILE IT TO GET IT TO THEM SO THEY KNOW WHAT IT IS?

>> I'M SORRY FOR WHICH PART? >> ONCE YOU FILE IT ONLINE. >> YES.

>> ARE WE SUPPOSED TO LET THEM KNOW HAD A TIME THAT WERE FALLING THIS ONLINE?

>> THEY WILL DO IT FOR US. YEP. YEP. >> OKAY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

>> MA'AM I SPOKE TO MERCER ALSO ABOUT THIS. HE KNOWS THAT THIS WAS COMING. MERCER IS WAS SOUTHERN GROUP SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS. OUR LOBBYING GROUP. SOONER WE GET THIS AND ENTERED INTO THE COMPUTER SYSTEM IT'S VERY CUMBERSOME. AFTER FILL OUT THE FORM THE RIGHT WAY.

COMMISSIONER RENICK OR EXPLAINS THIS. THERE IS BLOCKS TO FILL OUT. ONCE THE BLOCKS INTO THE SYSTEM THEN THE STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE STAFF WILL LOOK AT THIS AND IT WILL BE SPONSORING BY REPRESENTATION HERE BY A SPECIFIC EITHER MOST LIKELY REPRESENTATIVE. THAT'S NOT HARD TO PASS. THEN IT GETS SPONSORED IN. THAT'S WHAT MERCER UNDERSTANDS IT'S IN

THERE AND HE STARTS TALKING TO INDIVIDUALS ABOUT THAT. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL

[18.  2023 Transportation Project Priorities and Unified Planning Work Program Projects to be submitted to the TPO (E. Lehman/C. Stewart/M. Mosley)]

NOW WRITE NEW BUSINESS THE 2023 TRANSPORTATION PROJECT PRIORITIES AND UNIFIED PLANNING WORK PROGRAM. PROJECTS TO BE SUBMITTED TO TPO. WE HAVE A PINCH-HITTER TONIGHT. MS.

STEWART. >> ALL RIGHT MR. ÃIF YOU GET THAT RULING FOR US. WE COME TO YOU GUYS AND ELECT FOR TPO PRIORITY LIST. ED DID A YEOMAN'S JOB, A LAYMAN'S JOB GETTING THIS GOING. [LAUGHTER]. THEN HE PUNTED IT TO ME. I DO HAVE RICHARD AS MY BACKUP PRINT AND CHIPPER BEHIND HIM IF WE NEED HIM. RESET TONIGHT. I DON'T NUMBER ONE WHICH IS THE SAME AS LAST YEAR. WHICH IS COUNTY ROAD 220 WIDENING TO 4 LANES FROM STATE ROAD ÃTO BAXLEY. THAT IS IN THE WORKS AND A LOT OF PLACES WE HAVE TO KEEP IT ON THIS LIST TO KEEP IT MOVING FORWARD. I WILL GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM IF YOU WANT TO MAKE NOTES. YOU SHOULD HAVE A POWERPOINT MAYBE? IF YOU WANT TO MOVE STUFF AROUND THAT KIND OF THING YOU JUST GOTTA LET US KNOW. NEXT ONE. NUMBER 2 WHICH WAS NUMBER 2 LESTER IS AWAITING A STATE ROAD 14 I'M SORRY 16 FROM GREENE COVE SPRINGS CITY LIMITS TO THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY.

NUMBER 3, IS LESTER IT WAS NOT ON THE LIST. IT'S US 17 WIDENING TO 6 LANES. FROM THE END OF THE 4-LANE SOUTH TO TOWNCENTER PARKWAY TO 315. AFTER CONVERSATIONS WITH DOT THIS IS SOMETHING THEY'RE WORKING ON AS WELL. THEY URGED US TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS ON OUR TPO LIST TO TRY TO GET ALL THE FUNDING WE CAN FROM ALL THE PLACES WE COULD. DID I SAY

THAT QUICKLY RICHARD? >> WHEN I TALKED WITH JEFF SHOP PFIELD OF THE TPO HE STRONGLY

ENCOURAGED. >> THAT'S WHY I SAID IT. NUMBER 4. HIS FEED MILL ROAD WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER TONIGHT. THIS IS NEW TO LANE CONSTRUCTION IN THE 4-LANE RIGHT AWAY FROM SANDRIDGE TO CATHEDRAL OAKS. WE THINK PARTS OF THIS WILL BE BUILT BY DEVELOPERS OR CREDITS IN THAT DISCUSSION WE HAD. FEED MILL ROAD IS OUR MOBILITY LIST SO IT IS AVAILABLE FOR THAT. WE THOUGHT WE NEEDED TO LEAST GET ON THIS LIST BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION. LAST YEAR IT WAS NUMBER 8. NEXT PLEASE. NUMBER 5 ESTATE ROAD 21 INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS FROM NIGHT BOX ROAD TO THE DEVOL COUNTY LINE. AGAIN THAT WAS PART OF DOT DISCUSSIONS. THEY HAVE SOME OF THESE IN THEIR WORK PROGRAM. I THINK ONE OF THEM FOR THIS COMING YEAR. AT WELLS ROAD. RICHARD MIGHT GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT MORE

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FOR ANY OTHER TYPES OF FUNDING. >> WHAT KIND OF IMPROVEMENTS

ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? >> SIGNAL IS A SHOULD FOR THE MOST PART.

>> WHAT RICHARD SMITH, CLAY COUNTY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. WHAT HAPPENS IS IF IT'S ON THE LIST COMMISSIONER MAKES IT ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING AT THE DOT LEVEL. SO NOT ANYTHING WE WOULD PARTICIPATE IN. SHOWN YOU THE PLAN FOR THE WELLS ROAD AT BLANDING FOR INSTANCE. THEY DO THAT RELATE WITHOUT ANY INPUT FROM US. THAT'S ACTUALLY AN IMPROVEMENT FROM YOUNGER MEN CIRCLE ALL THE WAY SOUTH. THEY WANTED ON THE LIST. OUR PRIORITY LIST. SOME OF LOOKS LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE COUNTY AS WELL. A LOT OF THESE CROSS COUNTY LINES YOU WILL SEE

LATER ONE THAT DOES. >> ALL RIGHT NUMBER 6. COUNTY ROAD 218 WHITING TO FORD LANES FROM COSMOS TO BLUE JAY. WHICH WAS 6 LAST YEAR. NEXT TERESA. NUMBER 7. IT'S A 218 FROM WHITING TO FORD LANES FOR THE FIRST COAST CONNECTOR TO BLACK CREEK BRIDGE. THIS WAS ALSO NUMBER 7 ON DIRT LAST YEAR AS WELL. THIS IS ON 218 E. JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS CLEAR ON THAT. NEXT PLEASE. 8 IS CHEST WOULD OAKS WHICH IS NEW CONSTRUCTION FROM CHALLENGER DRIVE TO THE END OF THE 2 LANE DEVELOPMENT COMMITMENT. THIS KIND OF MOVE FROM 8, FROM 3 TO 8. FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT REASONS. ONE WAS JUST SOME OF THE URGING FROM DOT ON THE OTHER PROJECTS BUT, ONE OF THE OTHER REASONS FOR THIS IS WE ARE MOVING LONG PRETTY GOOD ON THE PORTIONS CLOSE TO THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT GOING ON THERE.

THE LATTER PORTION OF THAT ROAD IS A VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE LIST. WE JUST BUMP THIS ONE DOWN THE LIST A LITTLE BIT. NEXT PLEASE. PRIORITY NUMBER 9 WHICH IS STATE ROAD 21 INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS FROM 218. TO KEYSTONE HEIGHTS CITY LIMITS. ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH DOT, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE NEED FOR LIGHTS AND THAT KIND OF

THING LIKE A 215. WE LOOKED AT ANOTHER ONE RICHARD. >> WE REQUEST A SIGNAL AT ÃWAY AND APARTMENTS ECKENRODE 352. PLACES LIKE THAT WE CAN APPLY. THIS MAKES US ELIGIBLE TO APPLY

FOR CERTAIN CP AND TRIP GRANTS. >> TURN LANES. AND ALONG THE REGIONAL PARK. ON THE PAPER THIS IS COUNTY ROAD 215. SO IT WOULD INCLUDE HAL BURNS?

>> WE CHANGED IN AND HAD IT NEXT TO THE FINAL DRIVE YESTERDAY AND WE EDITED THAT SO

IT WOULD BE CORRECT. THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. >> ANYTHING FROM A SIGNAL NOW TO 215 WOULD BE A MILLION BUCKS. WE COULD DO THAT FOR HALF PRICE WITH THE GRANT OR

EVEN AT HALPERN'S WAY BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF IT. >> 15 WOULD HAVE TO BE TOTALLY REDESIGNED WHEN IT? THE WAY, THAT'S WHERE THE DANGER IS WHEN THEY COME ACROSS.

>> YEAH, YOU WHEN I TRAVEL IT A LOT. IT'S NOT EASY. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A FROG AGAIN.

IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT FOR YEARS. AS IT GETS MORE AND MORE HEAVILY TRAVELED GOING TO NEED, THEY WILL NEED TO DO SOMETHING. ANOTHER ONE WE GOT FOR DOCTOR BURKE WAS ON THE ONE AT TRACTOR

SUPPLY. >> OH YEAH. >> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A SIGNAL STUDY RIGHT AT KINGFISHER. AGAIN THEY DIDN'T SEND A CHECK WITH THAT. THEY LOOK FOR US TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT. THIS ALLOWS US TO APPLY FOR GRANTS TO GET CLOSER.

>> GETTING THESE ON THIS LIST WILL SAY IT WILL HELP TO APPLY FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF GRANTS.

NUMBER 10 PLAYS. THERE WERE 209 WHAT IT FROM SANDRIDGE TO HANLEY. THAT IS A NORTHERN SECTION OF 209. THE NORTHERN SECTION OF RUSSELL ROAD. IT WAS NUMBER 9 LAST YEAR. NUMBER 11 PLEASE. COUNTY ROAD 217. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT WANT TO ADD TO THE LIST. I'VE HAD LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS WITH DOT. ALSO WITH MEGAN AND HER TEAM ON GRANTS. THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS ROAD IS THE FACT THAT IF ESPECIALLY IF 301 AT CS X TRACKS ARE SHUTDOWN WHICH SEEMS

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WE ADDED THIS ONE TO THE LESS BECAUSE IT IS A HEAVY LIFT. NOT ONLY DOES A RIB NEED THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS IN THE RESURFACING BUT THERE IS A BRIDGE ON THERE THAT NEEDS

REPLACING. >> THAT BRIDGE. >> IT'S A WEIGHT LIMIT BRIDGE

ALREADY. >> SCHOOL BUS CAN PASS SAFELY BUT THA'S ABOUT THE HEAVIEST.

>> BIG SEMI TRUCKS WOULD USE IT AND IT'S NOT A GOOD THING. EXCEPT BACK TO THE LAST ONE WHILE BE ADDING WHENEVER WE HAD OUR FUNDS TAKEN AWAY FOR 209 S. WITHOUT. WHY WE ADDING THAT?

>> ADDING 209 NORTH? JUST TO TRY TO GET THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. 29 S. IS STILL BEING APPROVED

WITH THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN. >> WE LOST OUR FUNDING FOR 3 LANE PAVING.

>> 29 NORTH DOESN'T HAVE A FEED MILL. FEED MILL IS GOING TO BE A BIG TRAFFIC RELIEVER OF THE

SOUTHERN PART. >> FEED MILL IS IMAGINARY I'M SORRY.

>> WE HAVE TO CHOOSE. >> YEAH. UNDERSTAND. >> FEED MILL IN THE CATHEDRAL

PARKWAY. >> UNTIL 9 NORTH THE DEVELOPER AS THEY COME IN WITH THE ANNABELLE ISLAND AND ANOTHER ONE COMING IN. THEY WILL BOTH GO AHEAD AND PUT IN THE 3 LANE

SECTIONS. >> IS FRUSTRATING BECAUSE THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED. THERE WAS AARTI VOTED ON. WE AARTI KNEW ABOUT THE OTHER ROADS BUT NOW, IT'S JUST GOING AWAY. I'M

NOT GOING TO THINK ABOUT IT AGAIN. >> IT WILL STILL HAVE THE OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS. AT WALK-INS, AT OAK STREET. WE WILL FIX THOSE. AGAIN, FEED

MILL, IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE, IT'S NOT A DREAM. >> I'M LOVING IT. I LOVE THE

IDEA. >> I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT THAT THOUGH. IN OUR SHOES OR AT LEAST FOR ME. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANY OF THE REST OF YOU. TO PUT HIGHER ON THE PRIORITY LIST A ROAD WHERE IT DOESN'T EXIST TODAY AND DEVELOPERS. I WASN'T KIDDING EARLIER WHEN I SAID TO THOSE PEOPLE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. YOU WANT THIS ROAD PUT IN ANY WANT TO BUILD DEVELOPMENT OFF OF IT YOU BUILD A ROAD. WERE PUTTING IT HIGHER ON OUR PRIORITY LIST THEN WHERE EXISTING RESIDENCE LIFE THAT HAVE ISSUES. MAYBE IT'S GETTING THE CARS OFF OF 209 HELPS MORE THAN WIDENING 209. I JUST HAVEN'T HEARD THAT SPECIFICALLY SAID. IT.

>> IT'S HARD TO JUSTIFY WE HAD APPROVED NOW WERE NOT GOING TO THINK ABOUT IT AGAIN.

>> AGAIN, GO FROM 2 LANES TO 3 LANES IS NOT A CAPACITY IMPROVEMENT. YOU CAN'T GET MORE CARS TRAVELING NORTH AND SOUTH 3 LANES AS YOU CAN WITH 2.

>> THAT WAS VOTED AND APPROVED. >> YEAH.

>> IT WAS VOTED AND APPROVED BUT AS THE FATHER TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS GET HIGHER AND HIGHER EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS IS BEING LOOKED AT VERY CAREFULLY IF

THINGS NEED TO CHANGE SO WE CAN STAY WITHIN OUR BUDGET. >> NONE OF THEM HAVE GONE DOWN AS FAR AS HOW MANY LANES. 209, I'VE GOT A PICTURE TODAY SENT TO ME.

>> I WILL TELL YOU BEFORE RICHARD GOT HERE AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT, AND USE OF TRAFFIC STUDY NUMBERS WHICH I HAVE TO GET FROM ED ABOUT IF WE WERE ABLE TO DO SOME UPGRADES ON 209 S. SHE HAD FEED MILL AND CATHEDRAL OAKS PARKWAY. IT'S A TOTAL GAME

CHANGER FOR THE UTILIZATION OF 209 S. >> WHAT ABOUT SIDEWALK AND BIKE

LANE AND ALL THAT? NOT EVEN HAVING NOT RIGHT? >> THAT'S THE BIG LOSS. IT IS. THAT'S A

BIG REDUCTION. >> ,PUT THAT ON OUR LIST? >> YEAH. X CAN WE ADD THAT TO THE LIST? WE SHOULD ADD THE BIKE LANES AND SIDEWALK FOR 29 S.

>> YEAH. JUST MAKE SURE WILL BE GOOD TO THE END WE MAKE YOUR MOTION SUBJECT LIVES THAT.

>> WHAT NUMBER DO YOU WANT TO MAKE IT? >> I DON'T KNOW THAT IT REALLY LLY MATTERS PARTY WISE SUAREZ JEFF TOLD ME ON THE PHONE. E. THEY GO THROUGH AND WHERE THEY CAME LOOK AT WHERE THEY COULD GET OTHER GROUNDS SO, I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE IT DOES MATTER.

>> SEEMS LIKE THEY PICK HIM OUT IF THEY KNOW THEY CAN GET FUNDING OR MAYBE AN EMERGENCY.

>> THE OTHER THING THAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THAT IS SO WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE MATCH FOR

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>> WHAT I WILL DO WAS ASK ED AND ED AND RICHARD WILL MAKE THAT DECISION. IF WE COULD PIGGYBACK IT TO PRIORITY NUMBER 10 WHICH IS COUNTY ROAD 209. IF NOT WE WILL PUT IT BEHIND

IT. HOW ABOUT THAT? >> YEAH. >> GREAT. THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT WHAT'S AN EXCELLENT TERESA? >> PARTY NUMBER 12 WHICH WAS NUMBER 9 LAST YEAR. THIS IS A REQUEST FROM KEYSTONE AND THIS IS AIRPORT ROAD, CAMP CRYSTAL

LAKE AND THAT'S REALIGNING AND CONSTRUCT THAT ROAD. >> THE RECENT THAT'S IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE IT BRADFORD COUNTY HAD A JOB SCRAP TIED TO A DIFFERENT ACCESS TO THE AIRPORT

AND SECOND ENTRANCE. THE LOSS OF JOBS GRANT. >> OKAY.

>> IS NOT GOING TO BE THAT SECOND ROAD BUILT. THEY NEED IMPROVEMENTS HERE. NOW ONE OF THE ASKS I MADE AS THEY HAD MADE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH BRADFORD COUNTY BASICALLY GIVING BRADFORD COUNTY THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY IN THE CITY OF KEYSTONE/CLAY COUNTY SECTION.

I HAVE MADE A REQUEST OF SEVERAL CITY COUNCILMEMBERS PRIVATELY TO RECONSIDER THAT.

IF WE CAN ASK FOR IT. >> AGREED. >> ITEM NUMBER 13 IS CANOVA ROAD WHICH IS WANTING TO 3 LOADS FROM COUNTY ROAD 222 OLD HART ROAD WHICH IS IMPORTANT.

FOR THE TRAFFIC THAT IMMEDIATE AREA. IN THE OLD HART ROAD CHANGES COMING WITH THE SAFETY PROJECTS. PRIOR TO NUMBER 14 IS COUNTY ROAD 21 WANTING TO FROM 4-LANE TO BLUE JANE TO US 301. WHICH WAS ON THE LAST LAST YEAR AS NUMBER 12. PRIORITY NUMBER 15 WHICH IS STATE ROAD 16 AT COUNTY ROAD 218 RIGHT THERE IN PENNY FARMS TO ADD TURN LANES. THAT WAS

ALSO ON THE LIST LAST YEAR. >> THAT'S A CITY OF PENNY FARMS REQUEST.

>> THERE IS A STUDY THAT'S GOING ON FUNDED BY THE TPO RICHARD OR NOEL?

>> YES THERE IS A STUDY GOING ON FOR THE 16 CORRIDOR STUDY. WEST OF FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY ALL THE WAY TO HIGHWAY 21. WE WILL GET SOME INFORMATION OUT OF THAT. NUMBER 16 OR NEXT HIS OTHER PROJECTS. THESE ARE NOT ROADWAY PROJECTS. ESSENTIALLY MOST OF THOSE HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE. NUMBER 5 WAS THE DOCTOR'S LAKE EXTENSION REQUESTED BY THE TOWN OF ORANGE PARK. THAT'S THE DEVOL COUNTY PIECE OF THAT ROAD THOUGH. THE MUNICIPALITY REQUEST ARE BELOW THE LINE. YOU SEE THE GREEN COVE AND THE OP REQUEST THERE. WHICH IS FROM WHAT THEY

PRESENTED TO YOU GUYS HERE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS. >> TO THEY RECOMMEND WE KEEP NUMBER ONE UP THERE EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEEN SCHEDULED BY THE STATE?

>> NUMBER ONE. >> IT'S FUNDED. >> IT'S ABOUT TO BE LET FOR

CONSTRUCTION PROCUREMENT IN JUNE. >> I WILL CONFIRM THAT WITH ED.

I THINK ED TOLD ME THE ANSWER WAS TO KEEP IT THERE. I WILL KEEP AND CONFIRM IT. ALL RIGHT TERESA, NEXT PLEASE. THIS IS GOING BACK TO THE PAGE BEFORE. THIS IS OUR SUNBELT, CENTRAL PARTY WHICH THEY ASKED US TO DO IN ORDER TO KEEP FUNDING COMING. OBVIOUSLY NUMBER ONE IS WHAT WE PARTY GOT THE MONEY APPROPRIATED 4. WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT TO GET LIVE OAK PAID THE TRAIL SYSTEM THERE. YOU'VE GOT THE PIECE THAT TAKES US TO THE REGIONAL PARK. THE KNEES GOT THE PIECE THAT JOINS US DOWN TO KEYSTONE. 4 AND 5. NUMBER 4 WAS IN THAT POSITION BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY SIDEWALK THERE. IT WOULD JUST NEED TO BE IMPROVED. THE NUMBER 5 WERE STILL WORKING ON GETTING THE VETERANS PARK AND STRAIGHTENING SOME STUFF OUT

WITH THE 4 STREET APARTMENTS. >> HAS CECIL MOVED ANY ON THAT ONE?

>> HAS HEALED? >> CECIL. I KNOW THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T WANT IT RIGHT, THEY

DO WANT PEOPLE GOING THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY. >> META-CHAIR ON THE SEASONAL PORTION OF IT WERE STILL IN COMPS WITH THEM. THEY LOOK FAVORABLE. THEY JUST WON'T LET US CROSS INTO THE AIRPORT BOUNDARY. WE CAN GO RIGHT UP AGAINST THE FENCE LINE IS ONE.

WE DROVE IT, WE WALKED IN IT. MATT PACINO WHO OVERSEES CECIL WAS VERY PROACTIVE IN HIS LEADERSHIP AND HIS BOARD. THE PORTION WHICH IS KEY ON NUMBER 5. MERCER CALLED ME UP LAST

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YOU CAN'T SEE IT. IT'S A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF THERE. THERE'S SOME STAIR STEPS TO GET YOU OVER TO CECIL. WE ARE TRYING TO LOOK ALSO HOW WE CAN STRAIGHT LINE THAT UP TO THE

BORDER OF DEVOL AND CONNECT THAT STRAIGHT UP FROM THERE. >> 1.0 WENT UP 103RD.

>> RIGHT, IF YOU REMEMBER THOSE WERE ALTERNATES. >> NOBODY REALLY LOVED THOSE.

>> THERE WERE QUITE A FEW ALTERNATES WHEN IT CAME UP INTO THAT AREA BECAUSE IT WAS TRY TO CONNECT UP TO THE EQUESTRIAN CENTER IN TOWN. WE REALLY FOCUSED ON THIS WESTERLY PORTION ALONG THE AIRPORT. THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE TO OUT STRAIGHT

THROUGH CECIL AND THAT WAS NOT VERY GOOD EITHER. >> JUST FOR COMMISSIONER COMPARE. THAT NUMBER 5, IF WE CAN GET FOR ME HOPE WE COULD GET WITH THE 4 STREET DEPARTMENT THAT WILL GIVE US SOME BETTER ACCESS TO VETERANS PARK WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED. SO, NEXT ONE. THIS IS THE 16 E. TRAIL. THIS IS SOME DEPICTIONS THE NEXT FEW OF THE TRIALS THAT WERE ON THE LIST. THE NEXT ONE PLEASE MA'AM. THIS IS THE TRAIL AMONG 16 AND 17. SOME OF THESE FOR THE CITY'S RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL. LOOKS IS THIS WHERE WE SHOULD ASK FOR A CONTINUATION OF THIS TRAIL? WHERE THE NEW PARK IS GOING TO BE?

>> CORRECT. YES. THAT'S IN OUR PLANS FOR HER TO GO. FORWARD TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE SHANDS AND WHERE THE OLD CHANCE A NEW PARK WILL BE. THAT'S WHERE FOLKS CAN GET ON THE SHANDS AND GO ACROSS ALL MY MULTIUSE TRAIL. IT'S ON THE NEW BRIDGE. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY MAPS AND STUFF THEY HAVE WHERE YOU CAN ALSO GO UNDERNEATH THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY TO THE BACKYARD RESERVE. THAT TRAIL. NEXT ONE MS. TERESA. THIS IS PART OF ORANGE PARKS ASKED. YOU'VE ALL SEEN THAT BEFORE WHEN SARAH CAME UP. THE NEXT ONE PLEASE. THE KNOTS THE SAME. THE TOP PIECE OF THAT IS THE COUNTY PORTION. AND THEN DO WE HAVE ANOTHER? SO, ANY QUESTIONS? I GOT THE NOTES ABOUT 209 S.

ANYTHING ELSE? THAT YOU WANT ME TO LOOK AT? >> MAYBE THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO ASK. RICHARD MAY BE ABLE TO HELP WITH THIS AS WELL. IT USED TO BE ON THE LIST AND MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE IT'S BEEN MOVED OR REFUNDED OR MAYBE. WHERE'S THE 220 IN HENLEY INTERSECTION? WHERE DO WE STAND WITH THAT? WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF STILL ACQUIRING RIGHT AWAY. DOT HAS ABOUT 3 OR 4 MORE PARCELS TO GET INCLUDING THE ONE FROM DOLLAR GENERAL IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND COURTNEY MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE UP NOW THAT 3 OF THEM HAS GONE TO SUIT. WHICH I DON'T, WE'RE HOPING THEY BE SETTLED BY JUNE 2023. NOT SURE IF THAT'S

GOING HAPPEN NOW. >> IS DOT FUNDING THAT ENTIRELY?

>> ENTIRELY. THEY'VE ASKED US NOT TO BE INVOLVED. [LAUGHTER].

>> IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION. >> THE ONE THAT ONLY GOT TO T I THINK WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN THE TITLE. THE SUIT WILL JUST CONTINUE ON. WE'RE STILL

WORKING ON DOLLAR GENERAL. >> SO THAT'S JUST ONE WERE STILL WORKING ON.

>> THANK YOU. >> IT IS A BIG PRIORITY. WITH SOME RECENT EVENTS WE'VE EVEN LOOKED OUT YOU KNOW MAY BE ACCELERATING THAT. THE DOT FUNDING IS AVAILABLE IN JULY OF

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>> HAVE THEY DECIDED? >> THE DESIGN IS COMPLETE. YEP.

>> THANK YOU. >> MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE, SHOULD WE PUT THAT BRIDGE ONTO 20? THE ONE THAT GOT HIT THEN HAVING TO MAKE THE EMERGENCY REPAIRS? SHOULD WE

PUT THAT ON THERE? REX IT'S PART OF IT. >> THAT'S PHASE 2 OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. THOSE FUNDS WILL BECOME AVAILABLE IN JULY 2024.

>> OH, OKAY. THAT WAS SOME OF THE STUFF WE LOOKED AT. PENDING PERMITTING ON THAT.

REALLY DON'T THINK WE COULD ACCELERATE IT. WE DECIDED TO SELF FUND THAT. THAT WAS

DECIDED AFTER THE ACCIDENT LAST WEEK. >> CAN YOU JUST MAKE SURE YOU

DON'T SAY TILL 9 S. >> YES MA'AM. >> I GOT 209S. SO YOU'VE GOT THIS ITEM WHICH IS A. FOR NUMBER 18 I THINK IT IS. ITEM B IS ABOUT THE UPW P WHICH IS A UNIFIED PLANNING ORKPLAN WHICH WE ALSO TYPICALLY DO ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. THAT LETTER WAS ATTACHED. I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A POWERPOINT FOR THAT. DIVIDE TERESA? THAT LETTER WAS ATTACHED. IF YOU WILL RECALL, THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE HERE. I START WE HAD 3 ITEMS ON THE LIST. AT THE STATE ROAD 60 CORRIDOR STUDY WHICH IS ON THE LIST AGAIN. WE HAD THE LAKE AS BARRY ÃLINE ROAD WHICH IS ON THE LIST AGAIN. THE NUMBER ONE ITEM ON A LIST WAS A DIRT ROAD STUDY WHICH THEY CHOSE. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW. WE MEET WITH THOSE FOLKS EVERY OTHER FRIDAY. WE MEET WITH THEM AND I THINK SHOULD HAVE THE OUTCOME OF THAT STUDY BY THE SUMMER. WE WILL APRIL TO REMOVE THAT ONE OFF THE LIST. WE DID FLIP THE 16 CORRIDOR TO NUMBER ONE IN THE LAKE AS BARRY ÃLINE ROADS TO 2. FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT REASONS. ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS IS WE WILL HAVE OUR NEXT MOBILIT FEE STUDY WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. IF THE TPO HASN'T HELPED US AND PICKING UP THAT LAKE AS BARRY ÃLINE STUDY WILL BE ABLE TO ADD THAT IN OUR MOBILITY FEE STUDY. THE STATE ROAD CORRIDOR STUDY WE THINK IS JUST IMMENSELY IMPORTANT WITH TRYING TO GET THE ROAD 4 LANED. YOU'VE HAD A RECENT INQUIRY AND APPLICATION ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY ON HIGHWAY 16.

>> BUSINESS. >> GUESSER. JUST THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE THE NUMBER ONE ITEM. THIS YEAR WE HAVE 2 ON THE LIST. THEN THE TOWN OF ORANGE PARK HAS THEIR REQUEST OF THEIR MOBILITY FEES. FEES. SO I HAVE THAT PART AS WELL. THAT'S PART B. PART C AND D IS MEGAN. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO TAKE HIM. I DO HAVE YOUR NOTESFOR THAT VIEW.

>> CAN WE JUST APPROVE THEM ALL AT ONE TIME OR DO WE HAVE TO DO THEM ONE AT A TIME?

>> YOU CAN DO ALL OF THEM. LOOKS ALL RIGHT. >> DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN ISSUE

AT ENTERTAINING THEM AT ONE TIME? OKAY. >> JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS AND MAKE IT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. THE PURPOSE OF C AND D IS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO SUBMIT THE GRANTS THAT ANY OF THEM YOU PUT ON THE LIST MEGAN CAN MUTELY GO AHEAD AND APPLY. THAT AUTHORIZES THE COUNTY MANAGER. A LOT OF THEM HAVE TO GO THROUGH PORTALS AND IT'S EASIER FOR THE COUNTY MANAGER AND IT'S HARD WE HAVE TO

HAVE.[INAUDIBLE]. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE LETTERS A, B C AND D. >> I WILL SECOND.

>> HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING I. THOSE OPPOSED? SHE CARRIES 5 Ã0. WE HAVE A FEW BID OPENINGS AND MINUTES FROM

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SORRY. >> ONE MORE TIME. THANK YOU THANK YOU.

>> ALMOST MOVED TO FAST. >> WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR LITTLE BIT. X WE DON'T NORMALLY STAY

THIS LATE. >> I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL DID THIS MORNING WITH THE WORKSHOPS. BEING ABLE TO INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY UNJUST, THE LEARNING PROCESS THAT STILL GOES ON IN OUR COUNTY. WE COULD SEE WITHOUT CONSERVATION AT THOSE EFFECTS EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON IN THAT IS RELEVANT WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE LAND UNIT IN SPACE AND LIKE ASBERRY. BEING ABLE TO GET THE STUFF DONE AND OUT

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THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE, I FORGOT. NEXT TIME I GUESS. >> THANK YOU ELAINE.

[COUNTY MANAGER]

>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? COMMISSIONER AUDITOR? COUNTY ATTORNEY? MR.

COUNTY MANAGER? >> MADAM CHAIR, BOARD. JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS. BRIEFLY HEAR RESILIENT FIRST COAST PARTNER AGREEMENT. THERE'S A COPY IN FRONT OF EACH OF YOU ON THIS.

JUST RECEIVED CONSENSUS I CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. THERE'S NO MONETARY SUPPORT TO THIS. REALLY, THE INTENT IS THE MEMBER WHICH WE ARE PART OF THE REGIONAL COUNSEL. TO JOIN THE RESILIENT FIRST COAST AS AN EXPRESSION OF THEIR INTENT AND COMMITMENT TO WORK TOGETHER ON A REGIONAL LEVEL TO IDENTIFY AND ADDRESS THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO FLOODING, WOULD DAMAGE AND EXTREME WEATHER. IF IT PLEASES THE BOARD I WILL MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT. MOST OF THE SIGNATORIES OF THIS WE CONFIRMED EVEN AT THE STAFF LEVEL. IT WAS SIGNED. NONE OF THEM HAD A BOARD IF I REMEMBER THAT RIGHT. IF THAT'S OKAY I

WILL MOVE FORWARD. HEARING NO ISSUES. >> THINK ABOUT. THE NEXT THING BEFORE YOU IS A LIST OF CODE ENFORCEMENT CASES. WITH REGARDS TO OUR WORKING LAW CASES WORKING JUNK CASES. AS THE BOARD REMEMBERS BACK WHEN THE BOARD VOTED ON THE CDBG FUNDING. THERE ARE 3 PARTICULAR AREAS THE FUNDING WENT INTO. ONE WAS CODE ENFORCEMENT. WHAT WAS HOUSING REHABILITATION. III WAS INFRASTRCTURE. OUR FOCUS WAS MORE ON SIDEWALKS THIS YEAR. EACH AMOUNT WAS HUNDRED 56,000 FOR CODE. PHONE AT 60,000 FOR HOUSING. REHABILITATION. SIDEWALKS WAS 3 1/12 ALSO. OUR LAST ARE PROGRESSING WELL. NEED TO SPEND AT LEAST 80 PERCENT OF THOSE MONIES TO CONTINUE TO RECEIVE THIS FUNDING. IN THIS GRANT. WHERE WE ARE NOT SPENDING QUICK NOUGH BY OUR ESTIMATES HERE IS 150 6000 8 VERY LITTLE HAS BEEN SPENT IN THAT AREA. WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE TO THE BOARD IS AN INCENTIVE FOR THE CASES THAT ARE BEFORE YOU. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THEM RANGE TO NOTHING YET BUT IT'S JUST A BRAND-NEW CODE VIOLATION TO SOME THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR LITTLE BIT WITH HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND A FINE. AS WE SEEN IN THE PAST THE FINE, ONCE IT GETS TO AN UNBEARABLE AMOUNT THAT HOMEOWNER OR PARCEL OWNER JUST GETS OVERWHELMED COMPLETELY. WHAT I LIKE TO PROPOSE IS WE ALSO, WE'VE GONE OUT, IS GABBY STILL HERE OR NO? GABBY IS NOT HERE. I SPOKE WITH GABBY. THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN A CLEANUP. IF WE CAN HELP THEM ALONG WITH THIS AND CLEAN UP USING THE CODE ENFORCEMENT MONIES THERE, I'M PROPOSING TO THE BOARD AND TALKING TO COURTNEY. OUR STATUTE UNDER SECTION 2 Ã115 IS A REQUEST FOR LIEN REDUCTION. THESE LIENS HERE, IF WE COULD GIVE AMNESTY. THAT ONE ENTICE THESE INDIVIDUALS TO GET THEIR LOTS CLEANED UP. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING FOR THE COMMUNITY OVERALL. IN SECTION E IN THAT SECTION THE BOARD MAY ESTABLISH A CODE ENFORCEMENT LIEN AMNESTY PROGRAM TO INTENSIFIES CODE COMPLIANCE AND SUBTLE CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS. THAT IS MY OPEN FOR QUESTIONS ON THIS.

> SO FOR THE WORKING JUNK CASES ARE IN HIGHRIDGE AND I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PARTNERSHIP WITH THE HIGHRIDGE INITIATIVE TO USE THAT. THE ONE ON HEDGEHOG. IS

UP ONE THE MAGISTRATE KEEPS GIVING EXTRA TIME TO? >> TERESA, DO YOU REMEMBER? I

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HE SUPPOSEDLY GOING TO BUILD A HOME BUT, HE HASN'T SUBMITTED PLANS SO I DON'T WANT TO HELP HIM. HE'S NOT TRYING. I THINK IT'S ONLY ONE I HAVE ON HEDGEHOG.

>> OKAY. >> ASIDE FROM THAT ONE I WILL AGREE TO IT.

>> OKAY. HOW ABOUT OTHER ADDRESSES FOR OTHER COMMISSIONERS OF DISTRICTS?

>> I'VE A QUESTION. MONEY WOULD BE USED FOR THE CLEANUP? >> THAT'S CORRECT. WITH UNDERSTANDING THERE WOULD BE A LIEN INDUCTION IF THEY AGREE TO IT.

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> I THINK WERE PROPOSING AS A WAIVER OF THE LIEN AMOUNT.

>> A WAIVER OF THE COMPLETE AMOUNT? >> THAT'S WHY DON'T HELP HIM.

I THINK THE JUNK ONES ARE MOSTLY IN MY DISTRICT. SURPRISE.

>> TELL ME IF I'M GETTING THIS WRONG BUT, IN ORDER TO USE THE FUNDS TO THE EXTENT. WE WANT TO WIN A LIMITED TO JUST THESE. IF THERE ANY ONCE THE CROP UP ON THE CODE ENFORCEMENT LESS BETWEEN NOW THE DEADLINE TO USE THE MONIES WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND USE THE MONEY BUT, BY THAT TIME THEY WON'T EVEN HAVE A LIEN. IT WILL BE A CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS TO GET THROUGH AND GET A LIEN WILL TAKE MORE TIME THAN US JUST GOING OUT THERE AND

CLEAN IT UP. >> IN HIGHRIDGE ON LOAN THERE IS 9 LIENS. ON OTHER HOMES.

>> THIS COULD ONLY BE JUNK. >> OKAY. >> THERE ARE SOME OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED LIKE A DILAPIDATED MOBILE HOME AND SOME OTHERS. THAT'S A DIFFERENT FUNDING STREAM IN THAT. THIS IS REALLY CLEANING UP AND BECAUSE THERE REALLY HASN'T BEEN THAT MUCH DEMAND ON THIS. THIS WAS SOMETHING TO MAYBE SPREAD THIS ON TO HELP US

OUT. >> THERE'S ONE ON SPANISH MOSS. CHECK AT ABOUT ONE PLACE. IT'S NOT HOMESTEADED. THE GUY DIED. A NEPHEW INHERITED IT. IT'S THE ONLY ONE ON THE ROAD THAT'S A TOTAL EYESORE. IT HAS JUNK CARS AND IT HAS TRASH EVERYWHERE. AND THE TARP OF THE MOBILE HOME ROOF BUT, WE CAN'T DO THAT. THROW AWAY THE TARP.

>> THEY WILL NEED TO REPAIR THE ROOF. >>.[INAUDIBLE]

>> OH IT'S NOT HOMESTEADED. >> ALL RIGHT. IF HER OPENING UP THE APERTURE THAT WAY TO.

ALSO, I NOTE INDIVIDUALLY APPROVED DIFFERENT COMMISSIONERS. IF IT COULD OPEN UP INTO ANOTHER PARTICULAR AREA, IT HAS TO QUALIFY AS CDBG OR LOW TO MODERATE INCOME.

THAT WAS ANOTHER. IF IT'S ALSO OKAY WITH THE BOARD WE WILL MAKE SURE IT QUALIFIES AS CBD G SEE WHERE WE CAN HELP OUT. WHAT I WILL DO, ALSO PROBABLY IF YOU COULD GIVE US AT LEAST 4 WEEKS COME BACK TO BCC'S FOR NOW AND GIVE YOU A REPORT AND LET YOU KNOW HOW SUCCESSFUL THIS WAS. AND SEE IF OTHERS HAVE JOINED. WE HAD AN INTERNAL DISCUSSION. BECAUSE IT'S WRITTEN IN THE CODE THIS WAY IF WE RECEIVED A VOTE TONIGHT TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT, VIA THIS AMNESTY TYPE OF PROGRAM. THAT WOULD WORK THIS WOULD BE YOUR PROGRAM FOR CDBG. RELATED EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS PAID THIS WOULD BE A AMNESTY PROGRAM JUST FOR THAT.

WE WOULD ONLY USE IT IN CONNECTION WITH THE CDBG. >> SO WILL MY QUESTION.

>> YES MA'AM. >> HAS A OLD JENNINGS PROPERTY AGREED TO STOP SELLING THE

GOATS? >> SORRY, THAT'S NOT COVERED. >> I KNOW IT'S NOT COVERED. IF WERE GOING TO GO GET THEM, AT ALL HONESTLY AFRICAN TO GIVE THEM AMNESTY THERE WERE $306,000 FINE. THERE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SELL GOATS. IT SAYS RIGHT HERE IN THE THAT THEY HAVE A CODE NFORCEMENT CASE PERSONALLY GOATS. IF HER GET AWAY WITH 306,000 OFF-LINE IF

THERE SO TO BE BREAKING THE CODES. AKING THE CODES. >> THIS IS ACTUALLY TERESA SHOT. WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE IS THE ONLY WAY WE WOULD WAVE AND IS YOU WOULD USE THE CDBG FUNDS. OF CODE ENFORCEMENT WHEN OUT IN THE POUND THE PULPIT WAS 100 PERCENT COMPLIANCE THEN YOU COULD WAIVE THE FINE. THEY ARE DOING OTHER THINGS LIKE CLOTHES AND STUFF FOR THAT ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DOING LIKE SELLING GOATS MANAGING CODES OR WHATEVER. THEN WE WILL HELP THEM CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY BUT WERE NOT GONNA

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COMPLIANT THEN CHOOSE NOT TO LET THEM WAIVE THE FEES. >> THANK YOU. FABULOUS IDEA.

>> THOSE 2 ADDRESSES NOTED. IT HAS TO BE HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLIANT. THOSE ARE 2 MAJOR STIPULATIONS. JUST LOOKING FOR A VOTE AND APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED BY THE COUNTY MANAGER WITH THE

FEE WAIVER HINGING ON COMPLIANCE. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION WE USE CDBG FUNDS TO CREATE A PROGRAM TO CLEANUP PROPERTIES WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THE FINES WILL BE WAIVED. AS LONG AS THEY ARE REMAINING IN COMPLIANCE AFTER THE CLEANUP.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> WE KNOW WHAT THE G AND CDBG IS. >> GOATS. JUST WAIT UNTIL HE

GETS MY COMMENT. I HAVE OTHER ANIMALS TO TALK ABOUT. >> ON A SERIOUS NOTE I LIKE TO LOOK AT THIS AS A PILOT PROGRAM. WE'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING ON CASES OF $62,000 FINE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CUT THE GRASS. ARE WE GOING TO BE REWARDING PEOPLE TO NOT DO SOMETHING THAT HANG AROUND AND SAY WELL, IF WE DON'T DO IT THE COUNTY WILL COME IN AND DO IT FOR US. WE WON'T HAVE TO PAY THE FINE EITHER. I'M VERY SKEPTICAL THAT FOLKS THAT CAN'T GET THEMSELVES IN THE RIGHT GEAR TO GET CLEANED UP AT SOME POINT ALONG THE WAY WILL KEEP IT THAT WAY AFTER IT'S BEEN CLEANED UP. WE WILL SEE. I'M IN FAVOR OF GIVING IT A SHOT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE MONIES AVAILABLE AND IT CERTAINLY WILL HELP THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS TO GET

THIS CLEANED UP. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY

SAYING I THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5 Ã0. ANYTHING ELSE? >> ONE MORE ITEM MADAM CHAIR.

FOR THOSE THAT ARE ON CHANNEL 260, THE VOLUME IS FULL. 10 BY 10. I WANT TO COMPLEMENT. I DON'T THINK IS HERE RIGHT NOW. BUT DEAN HAYNE ALONG WITH LAURA CHRISTMAS REALLY SPEARHEADED THIS TO GET US FULL UP AROUND THE VOLUME ON 260. ONLY UPGRADED OUR AV EQUIPMENT BUT

ALSO GETTING COMCAST TO FIX THAT PORTION FOR US ALSO. >> THANK YOU.

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>> HE'S DOING FANTASTIC WORK AND I WANTED TO COMPLEMENT HIM.

>> WE APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. NOW THE RESIDENTS DON'T HAVE TO WATCH AS A DELAY. OR LISTEN ON FACEBOOK BUT WATCHES ON TV. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER DEMARCO FIRST? DO

YOU HAVE ANY? >> I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS TONIGHT.

>> COMMISSIONER CELLA? >> AFTER 12 HOURS OF 15 MINUTES. [LAUGHTER]. I HAVE VERY FEW COMMENTS OTHER TO SAY EXCITED ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WERE FORGING WITH NORTH FLORIDA ATLANTA REST AND MOVING FORWARD ON THAT. I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING FOR THE COUNTY.

I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHERE THAT'S GONNA GO. THANK YOU JUST OFF FOR HELPING PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER AND TO BE HANGING TOUGH HERE AFTER A VERY LONG DAY FOR EVERYBODY. ARE WE GONNA GET A LITTLE EXTRA TIME BEFORE GOING INTO A STAFF MEETING?

>> YES SIR. >> EXCELLENT. OTHER THAN THAT I SAY THIS THANKFULLY. THAT WE HAVE A BOARD THAT WORKS TOGETHER EVEN IF WE DISAGREE WITH SOMETHING. THAT WE MOVE ON, LET THAT BE GONE AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. IT'S NOT THAT WAY IN OTHER COUNTIES.

WE'VE BEEN HEARD THAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT DIRECTLY BY OTHER COMMISSIONERS. THAT HAD PROBLEMS WITH CERTAIN COMMISSIONERS DON'T TALK TO OTHER COMMISSIONERS. SOME COMMISSIONERS WILL PUT THINGS ON THE AGENDA WE DON'T HAVE THAT. WORKING DIRECTLY FOR THE TAXPAYERS AND THE RESIDENTS AND IT'S A GOOD HONEST EFFORT BY ALL 5 OF US AND I THINK WE

SHOULD BE PROUD OF THAT. >> COMMISSIONER BANNEKER? >> YES, THANK YOU. WE HAD A COMMENT TONIGHT ABOUT BAIL BONDS. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND TAND THAT AND WHOSE BELLYBUTTON

IS THAT? SO THE SHERIFF'S? 'S? >> YES. LE]

>> YOUR MIKE IS NOT ON. >>> I TALKED TO THE DERSHERIFF MONDAY HE HAD CHIEF SUE VAUGHN

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>> EBERLY SAYS. I GUESS THAT WOULD BE CHAPTER 903.101. LICENSE PERSONS TO HAVE EQUAL ACCESS. THE STATE STATUTE ACTUALLY SAYS SUBJECT TO RULES ADOPTED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCIAL SERVICES IN THE FINANCIAL SERVICES COMMISSION. EVERY CHARITY THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF AN ATLAS OUT FOR STATE FOR STATUTES. EVERY PERSON THAT IS CURRENTLY LICENSED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCIAL SERVICES AND REGISTERED AS REQUIRED IN A DIFFERENT SECTION OF THE STATUTES SHALL HAVE EQUAL ACCESS TO THE JAILS OF THE STATE FOR THE PURPOSE OF MAKING A BONDS. SO, EQUAL ACCESS. I GUESS THAT MEANS ALL OF THEM POSTED. SO HE SAID OTHER COUNTIES HAD LOCAL HEADS. MAYBE WE CAN GET THE SHERIFF.

>> I JUST WANT TO BRING IT UP. >> THE SHERIFF AND THE UNDERSHERIFF HAVE BOTH BEEN

NOTIFIED. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. WE SPOKE TO IT TONIGHT. U.S. 17. THE BLACK CREEK TRAIL THAT WAS DAMAGED BY ACCIDENT. CAN'T WE DO A TEMPORARY REPAIR OF THAT THING? IT LOOKS AS IF ONLY ONE SUPPORT WAS HIT. WE LIFTED UP, BUILD A TEMPORARY SUPPORT. IT

DOESN'T LOOK THAT DIFFICULT QUITE HONESTLY TO ME. >> I ASKED THIS DAME TO THE STAFF. THEY'RE LOOKING INTO IT. WE WILL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO GET IT DONE. SAFETY IS OF

MOST CONCERN. WERE TRYING TO WEIGH THAT. >> THERE IS A STATE REQUIREMENT THAT PROPERTY DAMAGE INSURANCE WHEN YOU DRIVE A CAR. I DON'T KNOW, OR BE LOOKING INTO THAT?

>> YES SIR. STATE FARM WILL PAY? >> TALK TO BOTH JEAN AND ALSO JUSTIN. THEY ARE BOTH ON IT. THEY'RE INVESTIGATED WITH INSURANCE COMPANY TO SEE WITH THE POSSIBILITIES ARE. THE NC AGE AND MARINE GO OUT AND THEY ESTIMATED THE REPAIRS TO $22,000-$60,000. THEY'RE WORKING ON GETTING 2 OTHER QUOTES SO THEY CAN HAVE 3 QUOTES AND HE THANKS THEY WILL HAVE THAT WITHIN THE NEXT 3 WEEKS. REPAIRS WILL BE MADE.

THEY ARE ON IT IT'S ONLY BEEN OUT OF COMMISSION FOR 2 WEEKS. IT HAPPENED IN THE LATER STAGE OF THE WEEK BETWEEN NEW YEAR'S AND CHRISTMAS. THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF DELAY AND GET

TERMS ARE GETTING STARTED. THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE. >> I DO HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE.

BUT A SIMILAR ACCIDENT WITH A PLAYGROUND CART WITH HER PLAYGROUND. WE GOT OUR MONEY FAIRLY QUICKLY. INSURANCE COMPANY SENT JUST TAKE THE 10,000. YOU'RE LIKE I GET

10,000 PROBABLY. BECAUSE THAT'S A MINIMUM REQUIRED. >> OUR LAWYER LOVE. SHE SAYS

YES. >> WE OUGHT TO PURSUE THAT. IF IT'S GONNA BE AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME WE SHOULD LOOK AT A TEMPORARY REPAIR. LAST THING I HAVE IS TO PUT ON MY VETERAN HAD. WE HAD A MEETING A FIRE WATCH LAST NIGHT AND WE AWARDED 10 MILLIGRAMS AND AM HAPPY TO PROVIDE THE PROJECT BARNABAS 11 OF THE GRANTS AGAIN FOR 75,500. LAST THING AND ONCE AGAIN SUPPORT YOUR VETERANS. IT'S PRETTY EASY TO DO. GO TO CALLERS BETWEEN 4 AND 8 PM THERE DURING THE 10 PERCENT TO CLAY COUNTY VETERANS ASSOCIATION.

>> WHERE IS IT? >> CULVERS. >> YOU SAID FEBRUARY 1?

>> FEBRUARY 1 4 TO 8 PM. >> DO TELL THEM THERE THAT YOU'RE THERE FOR THE VETERANS?

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>> I THINK THEY JUST DONATE THE WHOLE NIGHT. >> THAT'S NEXT WEDNESDAY.

>> THAT'S A PRETTY EASY WAY TO DONATE MONEY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER BURKE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WHETHER YOUR MCDONALD'S FAN OR NOT OPEN AT LAKE ASBURY. GRAND OPENING SATURDAY. I HEARD SOMETHING YESTERDAY THAT WAS PRETTY FUNNY. THEY SAY THAT MCDONALD'S HAS THE BEST COKE WHICH I THINK THEY DEAL. THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THEIR COKE DELIVERED IN A METAL CYLINDER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THE REST OF THEM DON'T. ANYWAY, JUST A LITTLE PLUG LOOKS MCDONALD'S HAS HER OWN

COCA-COLA RECIPE. >> OH. >> IS GOT MORE CAFFEINE AND WHO ALSO KNOWS WHAT'S IN THERE. IT'S THE REAL THING THERE AND MCDONALD'S.

>> WOW. >> WE DO HAVE DEPUTIES IN THE BACK.

>> AND THEN, RICHARD. THE LIGHT AT SANDRIDGE AND TO A 9. DID YOU LOOK INTO IT ANYMORE

ABOUT MOVING INTO LAKE ASBURY? YOU KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. >> THAT'S BEING DONE BY THE

DEVELOPER WHEN THEY PUT IN THAT RETAIL CENTER THERE. >> OH. OKAY. SO WE DON'T HAVE

TO MOVE THAT ONE. >> YEAH. >> WE DON'T HAVE TO MOVE THAT

ONE? >> THAT ONE IS OURS. IT'S AVAILABLE FOR SOMEWHERE ELSE.

RIGHT NOW I'M NOT GETTING ANY. IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING THERE. >> WERE NOT USING IT.

>> THAT'S WHY IT'S WORKING. [LAUGHTER]. >> I KNOW. OBTAIN SOMEWHERE

ELSE. >> I THINK WERE GONNA NEED AND HAVE A PROBLEM. I THINK THAT HAVE TO GET READY FOR THE CLOSING OF THE SANDRIDGE. WE MIGHT BE USING THAT LIGHT

GRANTS COME AND HENLEY. >> OH, OKAY. I DON'T THINK HUMAN NATURE IS GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO TAKE THE DETOUR. WHICH IS 209 NORTH TO HENLEY. I THINK WE ARE GOING HAVE SOME

ISSUES GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. >> OH.

>> WE NEED TO START EARLY ON THAT. >> OKAY. GOTCHA. THAT'S ALL I

HAVE. THANK YOU. >> I WILL MAKE IT QUICK. COMMISSIONER BURKE I WANT TO COMMEND YOU WILL. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND HOW YOU ADDRESSED. WE ARE HUMANS OVER PDOING OUR BEST. WE ARE STUCK WITH A LOT THAT PASS BOARDS PROBABLY VOTED FOR ALL IN GOOD FAITH AND SO I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. PEOPLE COULD GET NASTY ESPECIALLY BEHIND A KEYBOARD AND THEY DON'T REALIZE OTHER PEOPLE READ IT AND AT LAST FOREVER. IT REFLECTS ON

THEM. >> AND WE ARE NORMAL PEOPLE JUST LIKE THEM. I APPRECIATE

THAT. >> MISSIONARY SULLA TO YOUR POINT. I WAS TALKING TO A CHAIRMAN OF A DIFFERENT COUNTY. SHE WAS ELECTED AS CHAIRMAN OF HER COUNTY. THIS IS IN CENTRAL FLORIDA. 3 Ã2 HAD NOBODY RUNNING AGAINST HER. THE OTHER 2 REALLY DON'T LIKE HER.

[LAUGHTER]. I SHARED THAT. AGAIN WERE VERY COLLEGIAL BOARD WE APPRECIATE THAT. WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE. THAT'S WHY WERE ELECTED BY DIFFERENT CONSTITUENTS. WE DO REPRESENT THE WHOLE COUNTY WE APPRECIATE THAT. THE BIGGEST ISSUE RIGHT NOW THAT'S GOING ON IN DISTRICT 4 AND AM SHARING THIS BECAUSE IT'S A REAL ISSUE. WE HAVE DEPUTY EGG CROAK WAS WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. IF YOU DON'T KNOW HIM HE WORKS IN COMMUNITY SERVICES. HE IS ALSO OUR AGRICULTURAL DEPUTY. GIVE A PROBLEM RIGHT NOW IN MIDDLEBURG WITH FERAL PIGS. YOU THINK THAT'S FUNNY. OUR ANIMAL SERVICES COULD DO NOTHING BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DOMESTIC ANIMALS. BUT, THE NEW CALL FWC AND THEY SAY TO THE HOMEOWNERS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, SHOOT THEM.

OKAY YEAH WE LIVED IN THE COUNTRY BUT THIS BECOMES AN ISSUE BECAUSE THERE IS KIDS.

JUST WALK OUTSIDE AND THERE POPULATE PIGS THAT SOMEBODY LEFT. THEY ARE REPRODUCING.

LIKE THE WOMAN TOOK PICTURES AND SET THEM TO ME AND YOU COULD SEE THE PIGS HAVING BABIES AS SHE'S TAKING THE PICTURES. I SHARE THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE THINK IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL TO JUST LEAVE YOUR ANIMALS. WHATEVER YOUR PETS ARE WHETHER THERE POPULATE PIGS OR GOATS BUT THE LADY SELLING. WE HAVE THE SHEEP THEY GET OUT ON LONG PAY ALL OF THE TIME.

IT'S REALLY, THE SHEEP ON LONG PAY OUR TRAFFIC HAZARD. THESE PIGS AND MIDDLEBURG ARE GOING TO BECOME A TRAFFIC HAZARD BECAUSE WE HAVE 23 OF THEM AT LEAST. THEY ARE JUST MULTIPLYING PROBABLY AS WE ARE TALKING. IF YOU CAN'T TAKE CARE OF AN ANIMAL, DON'T GET AN ANIMAL AND PLEASE DON'T MOVE AND LEAVE YOUR ANIMAL. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED HERE. THEY BELONG TO NO ONE. THERE AT AN ABANDONED PROPERTY. ROUTING AND PEOPLE'S YARDS AND FW C SAYS SHOOT THEM. WE DONT REALLY KNOW WHAT WERE GONNA DO WITH FERAL PIGS. POPULATE PIGS. IF YOU DESIRE TO HAVE ONE COAT TO MIDDLEBURG AND YOU CAN FIND ONE. WE WILL TELL YOU WHERE. THERE OFF OF PEPPER GRASS. I'M REALLY NOT KIDDING. IT'S A BIG DEAL. WE APPRECIATE DEPUTY KROLL. HE RESPONDS AND HE IS GREAT WITH THESE RESIDENTS. JUST A SHOUT OUT TO

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