PROCLAMATIONS/RESOLUTIONS

[22. Public hearing on the adoption of an Ordinance amending Ordinance No. 2018-23, as amended, Emergency Medical Transportation Services (COPCN Ordinance) (C. Grimm)]

AND THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES A 5/0. MOVING TO THE SECOND ITEM.

SO OUR SECOND ITEM IS A PULIC HEARING ON THE ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2018 23 AS AMENDED EMERGENCY MEDICAL TRANSPORTATION SERVICES CO PC ORDINANCE AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WATCH THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETINGS BUT HAD NOT WATCHED OUR FINANCE AND AUDIT MEETINGS IN THE PAST WE COMBINE OUR FINANCE AND AUDIT FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS TO THESE MEETINGS USED TO OCCUR ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF

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PERFORMING MAP TO THE PUBLIC HEARING? SEEING THAT I WILL OPEN UP THE

PUBLIC HEARING. >> WE HAVE A MOTION. YOU HAVE A SECOND?

>> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I WAS OPPOSED, MOTION CARRIES 5-0. AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 89 ON

[23. Public Hearing on the adoption of an Ordinance amending Ordinance No. 89-54, Solicitation on Public Road Rights-of-Way (C. Grimm)]

PUBLIC ROAD RIGHT OF WAYS. >> IN YOUR PACKET IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING A PREVIOUS SOLICITATION ON PUBLIC RIGHTS-OF-WAY ORDINANCE. TO DEVELOP THE NEW DRAFT AND WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED TO YOU BASICALLY IS AN ELIMINATION OF SOLICITATION ON ROAD RIGHTS-OF-WAY AND WHAT WE BELIEVE IS BEING PRESENTED IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH AN

ENFORCEABLE UNDER THE LAW. >> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? BEFORE I OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, SHARE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SAY ON

THIS ORDINANCE ARE YOU HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE ORDINANCE? >> IS MOVING PRETTY QUICK

THERE. >> I JUST WANT TO THANK COURTNEY FOR ALL OF HER HARD WORK ON THIS AND I KNOW LOTS OF PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS AND RESEARCH WENT INTO THIS WHICH IS -- I'M GRATEFUL TO HAVE FOR ALL OF YOUR PARTNERSHIP IN HER WORK ESPECIALLY OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS COMING TO RESOLUTION ON THIS. I WOULD SHARE WITH YOU THAT I HAD A MESSAGE TODAY FROM SOMEONE IN VIRGINIA WHO WAS DOING A GOOGLE SEARCH AND THEY ARE FACING THE SAME THING AND THEY HAD DONE A GOOGLE SEARCH AND CAME ACROSS THAT CLAY COUNTY WAS HEARING THIS TODAY AND SHE ASKED ME FOR A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE.

YOU ARE MAKING -- BLAZING THE TRAIL IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND COUNTY ORDINANCE WORLD BUT

WE APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP >> I APPRECIATE THAT. LAURA AND I KNOW OUR STAFF CAME UP WITH THE BE SMART DO GOOD GIVE WISELY AND THAT'S MAKING THE ROUNDS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND I HAVE FIELDED A COUPLE OF PHONE CALLS ON HOW WE DID THAT. JUST APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP

AND ALL OF THE WORK. >> I WOULD LIKE WERE KIND OF AN EXPLANATION FOR THE PEOPLE OF

WHAT THE CHANGES >> SO OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE IS AN ORDINANCE THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE CHALLENGED BY LEADING FREE-SPEECH IT ALLOWS CERTAIN ACTIVITY.

BASED ON CASES THAT HAVE OCCURRED THROUGHOUT FLORIDA AND ONE OTHER COUNTIES HAVE EXPERIENCED, IN ORDER TO BE ENFORCEABLE YOU HAVE TO RESTRICT WHAT YOU MIGHT PERCEIVE ANY SOLICITATION IN ANYTHING YOU WOULD CONSIDER IN OUR CASE WHICH IS WHAT OTHER COUNTIES AS WELL. WE ARE TRYING TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS WHETHER IT'S THE REGULAR TRAFFICKER CITIZENS ON THE SIDEWALK DOING THE SOLICITATION.

ANY SOLICITATION IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WOULD BE PROHIBITED.

THERE ARE CERTAIN EXCEPTIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN HERE SUCH AS IF THERE IS AN INSTANCE THAT'S NEEDED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY LAW ENFORCEMENT, IF YOU HAVE A ROAD CLOSURE THEN THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED AND OBVIOUSLY LEGAL CROSSING OF THE STREET AND USING THE MEDIAN.

>> WHAT THIS MEANS AS DUE TO SAFETY WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE HAVING ANY SIGN SPINNING AND RIGHT-OF-WAY COLLECTING MONEY IN THE MEDIANS BUT CARWASH SIGNS, I MEAN, I'M SURE PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO KNOW SO IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND THEY WILL HAVE TO BE TOLD SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, PRETTY BROAD BUT DEFINITELY THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, THERE IS A HUGE CHANGE FOR OUR

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COUNTY AND SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A WHILE. VERY MUCH NEEDED

>> SO WHAT WAS RULED UNCONSTITUTIONAL IS THAT YOU CANNOT ALLOW SOME PEOPLE TO STAND IN THE ROADWAY WAIVE A SIGN THAT WE USE THE -- IN THE RIGHT AWAY AND GO TO PEOPLE'S WINDOWS AND ASKED FOR MONEY. THE GUY COMES IN THE NEXT DAY AND SAYS I NEED FIVE DOLLARS FOR WHATEVER. WHAT THE COURTS RULED IS FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND YOU CAN'T PERMIT FREEDOM OF SPEECH SO IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE ALLOWED FOR EVERYBODY AND NOBODY. AND BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY RISKS, ESPECIALLY -- A LOT OF THESE PANHANDLERS ARE STANDING AT OUR HIGH-FREQUENCY FLASH LOCATIONS AND WE AIRED ON THE SIDE OF SAFETY AND SAID NOBODY COULD STAND OUT THERE AND WAVE SIGNS ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

FOR OUR YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS FOR ALL OF THOSE FOLKS THAT DO THAT IS A NORMAL FUNDRAISING EFFORT WE WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK WITH THEM ON LEGAL SAFE WAYS THAT WE CAN GET THE KIDS THAT ARE RAISING MONEY TO GO TO A FOOTBALL TOURNAMENT. UNDER THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS AS WELL BEING CREATIVE ON HOW WE CAN SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT HISTORICALLY USE

THAT AS A FUNDRAISING EFFORT. >> OF COURSE PRIVATE PROPERTY IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE SO ELECTION SIGNS AND ALL THAT IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING WE TALK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE AS LONG AS ITS OWN PRIVATE PROPERTY AND YOU HAVE PERMISSION THEN YOU ARE ALLOWED TO DO THAT

>> SOMEBODY STANDING IN THE PARKING LOT OF A BOX STORE ASKING FOR MONEY, THAT TECHNICALLY IS ON SEMI PRIVATE PROPERTY, PRIVATE PROPERTIES WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A COMPLAINT FROM THE STORE TELL US THAT THEY NO LONGER WANT THAT PERSON STANDING ON THEIR PARKING LOT

SOLICITING. >> IT'S NEVER BEEN LEGAL TO STAND IN THE MEDIANS EVEN

THOUGH PEOPLE HAVE DONE IT, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT WAS THE REASON THE LAW WAS STRETCHED DOWN BECAUSE WE WOULD SAY YOU CAN BUT YOU CAN'T AND THE COURTS HAVE SAID YOU CAN'T PERMIT FREE-SPEECH. EITHER IT'S ALLOWED OR ITS ALLOWED IN A PUBLIC AREA OR IT'S NOT. SO THAT WAS THE CONCERN WITH THE ORDINANCE AS IT STOOD.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I JUST HAD A COMMENT.HIS IS JUST FOR THE PUBLIC.

THIS IS AN OUTCOME OF PUBLIC OUTCRY TO STOP THIS SOLICITING MONEY ALONG THE HIGHWAY.

I MEAN, IT'S DISTRACTING, SOME OF THE PANHANDLERS COULD GET AGGRESSIVE AND OUR PUBLIC DIDN'T LIKE THAT SO THIS IS THE ACTION WE HAVE TAKEN TO THWART THIS TYPE ACTIVITY.

P>> THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD OR MAYBEÓ IS THE CONCERN I HAVE WITH THIS BEING AN ALL OR NOTHING PROPOSITION, THE WAY THAT THIS HAS BEEN DRAFTED AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY WAY AROUND THIS IS NO ONE IS GOING TO BE PERMITTED TO BE IN OUR RIGHT-OF-WAY'S AND I FIND PARTICULARLY CHALLENGING TO ACCEPT ONLY BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN SOME MEASURES TAKEN TO MITIGATE THE CONCERNS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. I KNOW THAT WHEN I WAS HAVING THIS CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY THAT I DID HAVE A HARD TIME WITH WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE AN EXECUTION AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS AN PRIVATE LIFE HAD TO MAKE CONTACT WITH SOME OF THESE PRIVATE BUSINESS OWNERS ALONG ANY OF OUR MAJOR ROADS, IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS WE ARE MAKING IT OUT TO BE, AND I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THOSE PARTNERSHIPS LOOK LIKE WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND EVEN THE CHEERLEADING GROUPS DOING THEIR CARWASHES IN THE CHRISTIAN ORGANIZATIONS ARE ALSO OUT THERE.

WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO MEET THAT NEED FOR THEM.ECAUSE I'VE BEEN THERE.

I'VE BEEN IN A SITUATION WHERE THOSE PRIVATE BUSINESSES ARE SAYING NO.

YOU CAN DO THAT HERE. AND THAT'S WHEN -- THAT'S AFTER YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH SIX OR SEVEN DIFFERENT OTHER PEOPLE BEFORE YOU CAN GET A RESPONSE. SO I AM STRUGGLING HERE

>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE FUNDRAISING EFFORTS? >> YES

>> IF YOU THINK ABOUT MOST OF THE CARWASHES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THEY WILL OCCUR IN A PARKING LOT OF A CVS OR WALGREENS AND THEY ARE USUALLY PRETTY GOOD ABOUT LETTING THE GREAT SIN. AND THE KIDS WILL STAND ON THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK THAT'S NOT IN THE MEDIAN. SO TYPICALLY, THEY ARE STANDING IN THE MEDIAN.

I DON'T WANT KIDS STANDING IN THE ROAD WHEN THE MEDIAN ON A SIDEWALK WITH ADULTS IS ONE THING, BUT IN THE MEDIAN IS REALLY IS EVERYTHING. I AM NOT AWARE OF A WHOLE LOT

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OF LEGITIMATE GROUPS THAT WERE IN THE MEDIANS. THIS DOESN'T PREVENT THE

MARKING ON THE SIDEWALKS ON THE SIDE. >> IT DOES

>> ON THE PUBLIC SIDEWALKS. YOU KNOW, WE WILL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH.

I THINK WE HAVE DISCRETION. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH PEOPLE AND IF IT TURNS OUT THAT THIS IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR COMMUNITY WE WILL COME BACK AND READDRESS

IT. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THE OVERWHELMING RESPONSE WE GOT FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC WAS, YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THESE FOLKS STANDING IN THE MEDIAN MAKING -- APPROACH INTO OUR CARS AND KNOCKING ON THE WINDOWS WERE GESTURING US TO TURN OVER THE CASH.

FROM THAT POINT, I THINK WE ARE BETTER OFF WITH IT AND WE ARE WITHOUT IT.

AGAIN, IF IT LOOKS LIKE WE GOT TO ADJUSTED SOME POINT ON THE LINE, WE JUST HAVE TO DO THAT.

UT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD FIRST STEP WE WILL SEE WHERE WE CAN GO FROM THERE.

>> JUST TO REITERATE. IT'S NOT A PERFECT SOLUTION BUT AS A STEP FORWARD TOWARD WHAT

WE HAD IN THE PAST. >> BEFORE WE GO FORWARD WITH DISCUSSION I WANTED TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR FOR THE SHERIFF? THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY, SHERIFF.

I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. ZENON I WILL CLOSE THE HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. DID YOU HAVE OTHER DISCUSSION YOU WANTED YOU HAVE ON THAT?

>> NOW. I THINK I HAVE BEEN CLEAR. I THINK THAT IT'S A DRASTIC STEP TO ELIMINATE ALL OF IT. AND I HEAR BUT THE CONCERN IS. SAFETY, OF COURSE.

OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS PUBLIC SAFETY. THAT'S NOT LOST ON ME.

I JUST THINK THAT IF OUR CONCERN IS THAT WE CANNOT ENFORCE THE ORDINANCES AS THEY ARE ON THE BOOKS NOW, THEN A STEP IN THIS DIRECTION IS A STEP TO COMPLETELY REMOVE IT OFF OF THE TABLE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A MIDDLE GROUND THAT WE HAVE NOT YET EXPLORED. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHERE I AM OUT ON THIS.

I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH SHERIFF AND IN PART WITH COMMISSIONER SELLER ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDED TO BE OUR PRIMARY PRIORITY IN MAKING SURE WE ARE TAKING STEPS TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE TAKEN A STEP THAT DOES NOT FULLY FLUSH OUT HOW WE CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. WE ARE ASSUMING THOSE PARTNERSHIPS WILL TAKE PLACE, AND IT'S EASIER TO ADD RESTRICTIONS THAN IT IS TO WALK THE BACK.

SO I'M WRESTLING WITH THIS LITTLE BIT BUT WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT KEEPING THE COMMUNITY SAFE. I JUST WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE AN APPLICATION,

HOW WE CAN MEET IN THE MIDDLE SOMEHOW. >> FURTHER DISCUSSION

REMISSION? >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 89 Ã54.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND? >> I WAS TRYING TO GET IT ON.

THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND. WE'VE ALREADY SAID IT'S EITHER ALL OR NOTHING.

THERE'S NO WAY TO PROVIDE AN EXCEPTION TO THE ROLE >> THAT'S OUR INTERPRETATION,

YES. >> AND THIS WAS A FEDERAL RULING, NOT A STATE OF FLORIDA RULING SO IT WAS RULED -- THE FLORIDA LAW WAS RULED UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND THEREFORE ALL COUNTY GOVERNMENTS IN FLORIDA HAVE TO REDO THE ORDINANCES IF THEY WANT TO HAVE

AN ORDINANCE >> IT WAS A FEDERAL OPINION TO THE FLORIDA LAW WOULD BE THE

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COUNTY -- DIFFERENT COUNTIES ORDINANCES. WHEN WE ARE MODELING AFTER IS THE COUNTY WHICH IS ALREADY BEEN CHALLENGED AND HAS BEEN UPHELD.

>> AND THE UNINCORPORATED AREA IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. THE OTHER ONES ARE ALREADY SAYING THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO COME ABOARD AND DO THE SAME THING.

>> MEET BEEN WORKING WITH HER SPEAKING WITH ORANGE PARK AND KEYSTONE HEIGHTS.

AND WE DO HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> MADAM CHAIR, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS WHETHER WE WANT TO GO ALL THE WAY OR FIND SOME KIND OF COMMON GROUND.

COMMON GROUND DOESN'T EXIST ACCORDING TO THE COURT OPINION AND SO CONSEQUENTLY AS WE LOOK TO VOTE ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, AGAIN, NOTHING THAT WE DO IS SET IN STONE FOR THE REST OF ETERNITY. SO I THINK THIS ACCOMPLISHES WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO TO ACCOMPLISH AND GET STATUS -- IS OUT OF FISA COURT AND HAS BEEN TESTED AND WILL NEED TO DO IS CALL LEE COUNTY AND FIND OUT HOW THEY WILL HANDLE SOME OF THESE GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT USUALLY DO WHAT THEY DO AROUND THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND FIND OUT HOW THEY ARE GOING TO HANDLE THAT AND I THINK THIS TAKES THE IMMEDIATE STEP OF TAKING THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN JEOPARDY AND MAKING OUR MOTORISTS AND CITIZENS IN JEOPARDY OF THE STREET AND

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO ULTIMATELY. >> I WOULD SHARE THAT WE ATTENDED THE EXECUTIVE BOARD MEETING FOR THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA REGIONAL COUNCIL LAST THURSDAY AND YOU'VE ALL COUNTY TO COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM DUVAL COUNTY REPRESENT ON THAT BOARD AS WELL AS THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE ALL ARE WRESTLING WITH THIS ISSUE AND ARE LOOKING

OPINION WILL COME BACK DIFFERENTLY. >> I THINK BECAUSE IT'S BROUGHT YOU RUN INTO SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES HERE. I AGREE ABOUT THE UNTOWARD CHARACTERS WE ARE LOOKING TO DISCOURAGE HERE AND THERE'S NO CONCERN THERE.

I THINK WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT THAT. THEY ARE NOT WHO I'M THINKING ABOUT PRIMARILY WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS. IT'S BROAD.

IT'S SWEEPING. AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MAKING A FIRM DECISION OF NO SOLICITATION WHATSOEVER AND THEN HOPING WE CAN WALK AT THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE AND

THAT'S JUST -- FOR ME AT THIS POINT THAT'S ILLUSORY >> I GET IT.

I HEAR YOU. THOSE OPPOSED AND CARRIES 4/1. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

UNDER CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE TODAY? I WANT TO RESPECT YOUR TIME.

I WILL MOVE BACK TO OUR APPROVAL OF MINUTES AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION

>> WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND THE COMMISSION MEETING ON DECEMBER 13 AS WELL

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AS THE GTA BUST MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 14 >> I WILL SECOND

>> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

[CONSENT AGENDA]

ALL THIS IN FAVOR AND THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5/0.

NOW WE ARE AT THE CONSENT AGENDA. IT'S RATHER LENGTHY BUT IT IS ALL SPELLED OUT. IS THERE ANY ITEMS ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO PULL? WE ARE NOT GOING TO HEAR ITEM NUMBER 10 TODAY. SO WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION

FOR ITEMS OTHER THAN ITEM 10. ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> SO MOVED.

[17. BCC Appointments (H. Wanamaker)]

>> SECOND THE MOTION >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO THE SECOND AND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SAYING ON ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. MOTION CARRIES 5-0. NOW WE ARE AT OLD BUSINESS.

BCC APPOINTMENTS. >> AS WAS BRIEFED AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING, THE LIST IS WITHIN THE BACKUP FOR THE BCC CHAIRMAN APPOINTMENTS FOR 22 TO 2023.

THE THREE MAIN AREAS ARE USED BY QUAYS BLU-RAYS ENTRAILS. >> AND LIVE 3.1 MILLION OUT OF

[18. Regional Park Funding (T. Nagle)]

OUR FUND. THAT LEAVES YOU ABOUT A 200,000 DEFICIT IN LOOKING AT OUR CIP WE HAVE A BUNCH SITTING IN A NINE ITEM PLAN ACQUISITIONS. WE ROLLED IT FORWARD TO THIS YEAR AND PUT 1.9 MILLION IN THE ACCOUNT MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TOO TAKE 200,000 OUT OF THAT ACCOUNT AND THAT COMBINED WITH ARPA WOULD GIVE YOU THE 3.3 YOU NEED AND THEN IF WE NEED MONEY FOR TURN LANES WHICH IS ONE OF THE ISSUES WE ARE STILL DISCUSSING I WOULD ALSO SAY TO TAKE THE TURNLEY MONEY OUT OF THAT LAND ACQUISITION ACCOUNT. IF THAT IS THE DESIRE OF THE BOARD THAT'S HOW YOU CAN FUND THE EIGHT FIELDS FOR REGIONAL PARK AND I STAND READY TO

ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE >> QUESTIONS FOR MR. NICHOL. >> THE ALTERNATIVE FOR TURN

LANES AT DOT IS THE ALTERNATIVE >> I WOULD DEFER TO RICHARD ON WHAT THE ALTERNATE PLANS ARE.

>> RICHARD SMITH CLAY COUNTY. THE ALTERNATE PLAN OF GOD IS TO HAVE THE SPECIAL EVENT IN PHASE

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1. BEFORE WE GET EVERYTHING BUILT OUT IN ANY EVENT ORGANIZERS WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING PSA SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR TRAFFIC FLOW AND TRAFFIC SAFETY.

I WOULD WORK WITH JUSTIN PEARSON THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO SET THOSE THRESHOLDS.

IS IT A TWO FIELD TOURNAMENT EIGHT FIELD TOURNAMENT WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO.

I WILL STRESS THAT BECAUSE THE SPEED LIMIT ON THE STREET ON THE ROAD OUT THERE, IT'S A TURN LANE IS VERY IMPORTANT. I TRAVEL THAT ROAD A LOT AND WE KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, THAT GOLD HAD RANCH STATE PARK THERE'S NOT A TURNLEY MERRICK STREET IS DEFINITELY NAVIGABLE AND DOABLE BUT WE DO WAT TO MAKE SURE IN FUTURE PHASES IT'S THERE. THIS GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD THIS REQUEST ON OUR TPO PRIORITY LIST. IT'S ON THE PRIORITY LIST AND MAKES IT ELIGIBLE FOR COMMUNITY TYPE GRANTS THAT COME OUT OF FLORIDA DOT TYPICALLY SMALLER

GRANTS DEPENDING ON THE RIG AND SECURE SOME OF US >> QUESTION WHAT DOES THAT DO

FOR US. >> WE MENTION OUR TEAM HERE IF YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS.

YOUR AUDIENCE >> COMMISSIONER, YOUR QUESTION IS WHAT REALLY MAKES A DIFFERENCE. I WILL GIVE YOU A PERFECT EXAMPLE, THIS WEEKEND ACROSS.

WE HAVE DETERMINED THAT GHANAIAN THEORY USING SEVEN FIELDS AND HAVE TO USE TWO PARKS THAT HAPPEN. WE ARE ACTUALLY -- WE HAVE THIS PLACE; USER GROUPS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE. WITH THE SPORTS COMPLEX, HAVING THAT EIGHT FIELD ADVANTAGE, IT ALLOWS US TO BRING IN NOT ONLY WORKGROUPS BUT SMALLER TOURNAMENTS THAT WE CONSERVE.

ALLEN IS HERE ALSO WITH AIRSTREAM VENTURES CONTRACTED SPORTS SALES AND MARKETING FIRM. IF WE GO DOWN TO FIVE FIELDS, WE HAVE THAT IN OUR SPORTS COMPLEXES CURRENTLY. AND WE CAN'T DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO NOW.

SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. >> I WOULD JUST SAY AS WE ARE TALKING TO ALL KINDS OF EVENTS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY ON TRYING TO COME TO CLAY COUNTY IT'S A DEFICIT WE HAVE TO USE TWO FACILITIES THERE ARE PLENTY OF FACILITIES THAT HAVE MULTIPURPOSE FACILITIES IN THE SAME AREA. IF WE COULD GET 28 FIELDS IT ALLOWS US TO GET TENDS TO 20S TO 30S MORE TEAMS TO COME IN AND IS CONTIGUOUS IN THE SAME FACILITY WHICH ALLOWS US TO

BOOST. >> I HAVE ONE OTHER COMMENT AND THAT'S WITH THE COMMISSIONER BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION LAST MEETING THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM SO WE CANNOT FORGET ABOUT THAT IN OUR PLANNING AND SCHEDULING AND ALL OF THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER THOSE WHO HAVE PAID

FOR THIS >> I DON'T WANT YOU TO FORGET YOUR QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE THEM WRITTEN DOWN? SO AFTER THIS COMMISSIONER JUSTIN HAS A SOLUTION FOR THAT SO I WILL ASK HIM, BUT I DON'T WANT HIM TO GET HIS DEMON TO HAVE THAT ADDRESS?

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE THE COMMENT BUT LET'S HEAR FROM JUSTIN.

I THINK MY BRAIN IS SO VIABLE ENOUGH TO REMEMBER >> IT WASN'T A CRITICISM.

YOU CAN BECOME A BLONDE LIKE ME. >> AND STILL TRYING TO WARM UP FROM OUTSIDE TALKING TO THE FOOTBALL GROUP. I HAVE BEEN HAVING MEETINGS WITH DIFFERENT AGENCIES AROUND THE STATE, IN PARTICULAR COLUMBIA COUNTY AND SEMINOLE COUNTY. WHAT THEY DO IS THEY ALLOW FOR RECREATIONAL USE FOR USE FOR TEENS TO ACCESS THE FIELDS OR RECREATIONAL -- SHUTDOWN AND PREP THE FIELD AFTERWARDS AND

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DIDN'T HAVE AN EVENT ON THE WEEKEND OR PARKS AND WITH WHAT IT BE OPEN THAT

>> WE WOULD NOT LOCK THE GATES TO PROHIBIT PUBLIC ACCESS SO THE FIELDS WILL BE OPEN TO RECREATIONAL USE FOR ANY ACTIVITY THAT IS NOT SCHEDULED TOURISM OR PARKS IN.

>> DOES THAT HELP ANSWER THE QUESTION? >> I REMEMBERED.

I APPRECIATE THAT AND AS A MATTER FACT USING MY PUBLIC SCHOOL MASS I THINK WE CAME UP WITH [INDISCERNIBLE] AND I DIDN'T REALIZE HE WAS TALKING TO OTHER GROUPS BUT IN MY MIND MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY WITH THREE DAYS IF YOU GO THROUGH THE YEAR THAT'S ABOUT 35 PERCENT USAGE BY TOURISM AND TOURNAMENTS SO IT'S ALMOST 221 IN TERMS OF RECREATION USING IT OVER THE EVENTS. LET'S ALSO REMEMBER THAT THIS IS ONE WAY WE CAN PAY FOR THE FACILITY AND THIS IS WHAT WAS PRESCRIBED BY THE STATE DELEGATION WHERE WE WERE AWARDED $3 MILLION TO START THE PARK IT WAS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE UTILIZED AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS PUBLIC RECREATION. I THINK WE HAVE TO BE JUDICIOUS IN MOST OF THE TIME TOURNAMENTS COME IN THEIR LOOKING FOR THE WEEKENDS.

THE OAKLEAF RENEGADES AREA AND MAYBE THEY END UP WITH A FIELD THAT THEY USE EACH WEEK THEY END UP WITH A PARK THEY CAN ACTUALLY GO AND PLAY ON BUT ON THE WEEKENDS THEY CAN USE IT IF IT'S NOT BEING USED BUT IF IT'S BEING USED TO GENERATE REVENUE SO WE CAN MAINTAIN THE FIELDS AND LOOK FORWARD TO POSSIBLY EXPANDING TO A PHASE 1B OR TWO OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE I THINK IT HAS CERTAINLY PLENTY OF TIME TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT. THEY DIDN'T MENTION THIS ALLEN AND KIMBERLY BUT THE DELTA -- MY FEELING IS THAT SOMETHING COULD TURN LANES I GUESS THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS WILL HAVE TWO ENTRANCES OF THE PURPOSE OF BUILDING BOTH ENTRANCES RIGHT AWAY. HOW MUCH WOULD THAT BE WE CAN LOOK AT THAT WOMAN GET TO THAT POINT.IGHT NOW WE ARE PLANNING ON THE CURRENT PLAN WAS PAID TO HAVE A RIGHT TURN

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LANE TO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN TURNING RIGHT COMING FROM THE SOUTH FROM THE KEYSTONE HEIGHTS CROSSROADS AREA AND IS FIRST LEFT TURN WHEN I SAY LAW ENFORCEMENT NO ONE OUT THERE STANDING IN THE ROAD DIRECTING TRAFFIC PROBABLY HAS SOME WARNING SIGNS RESPONSIBLE FOR VIDEO BOARDS EVENT THIS WEEKEND WHETHER IT'S A CAR SHOW ACROSS TOURNAMENT HAVE VIDEO BOARDS ABA PSA OFFICER WITH LIGHTS ON. THE OTHER THING IS HAVING THIS IS A PARK ENTRANCE AND SEEING HOW THE SPEED LIMIT REDUCTION. WE DO THAT IF YOU TRAVEL TO 15 OFTEN OVER THERE OFF OAK GROVE BAPTIST CHURCH WE HAVE A REDUCTION OR WHEN THERE'S NO REASON TO HAVE A REDUCTION

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THERE >> WE ARE ALSO AGAINST THE TIMEFRAME AND HAVE TO USE THESE DOLLARS AT END OF 2024. SOUND LIKE IT'S A LONG WAY WAY WE ARE HAVING DISCUSSIONS ON -- WHILE IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TIME TO SPEND THIS MONEY THERE'S REALLY NOT.

WE ARE STARTING TO COME UP AGAINST THE TIMELINE >> WE LEARNED.

PAINFULLY JUST TRYING TO SPEND 300 OR THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR TWO PICKLE BALL COURTS WAS 17 MONTHS BECAUSE THE CONTRACTORS HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE IT'S FEDERAL MONEY SO IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS SOME OF IT OUR REGULAR PROJECTS > WE ARE STAYING IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO THERE IS MONEY LEFT OVER THAT COULD BE SPENT SO SAME

THING. >> IT FEELS LIKE YOU ARE SAYING LET'S HURRY UP AND WAIT AND WE ARE. BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT ENCUMBERED THE MONEY AND WE KIND OF DID IT THEN MEGAN GANNON HOUND IS FOR THE PAPERWORK.

ANYONE NOT IN FAVOR OF EIGHT FIELDS AND IN FAVOR OF FIVE? I THINK WE HAVE A CONSENSUS

AROUND THE EIGHTH. >> AND AGAIN, MAC AND HIS TEAM ARE HERE AND WE HAVE BEEN

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HAVING BIMONTHLY MEETINGS AND OUR NEXT ONE WILL BE COMING UP HERE IN TWO WEEKS.

WE JUST HAD ONE EARLIER YESTERDAY. SO THEY ARE READY TO GO AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE AND ASSURE THE BOARD THEY ARE READY TO GO. THEY CAN MEET THE TIMELINE AND THE EXTENSION OF THE GRANT WAS THE OTHER THING FOR THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND WE HAVE UNTIL THE END OF DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR TO COMPLETE. SO WE ARE OFF TO THE RACES.

>> ARE WE STILL GOING TO ASK FOR THE SPECIFIC GRANT FROM THE GOVERNOR'S MONEY AGAIN OR NOT?

>> MEGAN IS ACTUALLY WORKING ON ALL OF THE LEGISLATIVE REQUESTS SHE PUT AN EMAIL OUT TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TODAY HER AND CHARLIE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT'S WHAT YOUR NEXT BOARD MEETING WE WILL COME IN WITH A LIST OF WHAT THE DEPARTMENTS FEEL WE NEED TO MAKE THE LEGISLATURE ASK FOR SO AT THAT TIME THE BOARD WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE -- APPROPRIATION ASKED

FOR IT WILL BE ONE OF THE ONES WE OFFER UP ON THE BOARD FOR. >>

[19. Lien Reduction (C. Stewart)]

>> I THOUGHT WE WOULD MAKE A TEACHER COMMENT SO I HAD BETH AND DAD IN THE AUDIENCE HE WAS ALSO ONE OF MY STUDENTS IS GOING TO BE WORKING ON OUR PART SO I LIKE TO SEE ALL OF THE

HOMEGROWN KIDS >> YOU TAUGHT WHEN YOU WERE 12 >> I TAUGHT WHEN I WAS 12 AS EVERYBODY KNOWS. REAL QUICK JUST HAVE ONE REDUCTION FOR YOU TONIGHT YOU HAVE A MEMO AND YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION AND THIS WAS A CASE THAT WAS ACTIVE DOWN IN KEYSTONE ACTIVE FOR 11 MONTHS. THE LIEN COST TOTAL ABOUT $6000.

$6025 STAFF'S COST WAS $2280. I BELIEVE MR. TORRES IS HERE OR HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT. MAYBE NOT.UT YOU GUYS GOT THE PACKET THESE GUYS ARE INVESTORS AND THEY OWN THE PROPERTY AND THEY HAD SOMEBODY WHO WAS KIND OF A RENT TO OWN ON THE PROPERTY AND THEN THEY DEFAULTED AND QUIT PAYING AND THEN BASICALLY BECAME SQUATTERS ON TE PROPERTY. IT TOOK THEM A WHILE TO GET THE PROCESS TO GET THEM EVICTED AND GOT THEM CLEANED UP CAME TO THE DECEMBER 1 SPECIAL MAGISTRATE TO ASK FOR REDUCTION TO $2500 WHICH IS A LITTLE ABOVE STAFF'S COST BY SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HARTON WAS IN FAVOR OF REDUCING TO THOSE -- 2D $2500 SUGGESTED BY THEN SO MANY QUESTIONS OF ME, LET ME NOW.

>> I MOVED TO APPROVE THE $2500 LIEN REDUCTION >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND THE SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I MOTION CARRIES 5-0.

>> I WILL SAY THANK YOU AS WELL >> IT WAS A MASS SO FOR IT TO GET CLEANED UP AND THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IT BACK ON THE MARKET AND TRY TO SELL IT AGAIN.

[20. RFP No. 22/23-14, 911 Hardware and Software Maintenance Services (K. Smith / D. Barro)]

>> MY COMPUTER IS BEING SLOW BUT WE WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM WHICH IS OUR NFPA 20 2223

Ã14 9-1-1 HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE SERVICES >> HELLO, COMMISSIONERS MY NAME IS TIMOTHY BOND AND I'M AMANKWAA DATA FOR LAKE COUNTY. BEFORE I GET INTO THE NITTY-GRITTY OF THE RFP I WANTED TO FIRST COMMEND OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR IMPLEMENTATION FOR OPEN GOVERNMENT. I THINK WE AREN'T THE FIRST PEOPLE TO GO THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS AND IT REALLY MADE IT SMOOTH AND EASY WITH MY PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE WITH RFPS. I REALLY COMMEND THEM FOR HELPING US WITH THIS WHOLE SITUATION HERE. SO THANK YOU FOR IF THERE IS ANYONE HERE.

>> I AM SEEKING YOUR APPOVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AWARD OF A.K.A. ASSOCIATES BACK IN

[02:25:02]

NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR WE RECEIVED THE ONE PROPOSAL FROM A.K.A. ASSOCIATES BEFORE EXPIRING LAST MONTH. OUR GOAL FOR THIS WAS TO COMBINE THE TWO AGREEMENTS AND 4911 SUPPORT SERVICES INTO ONE CONTRACT AND FIND A VENDOR THAT CAN MAKE THOSE COMMITMENTS SO WE MAY AVOID ANY APSES IN COVERAGE. A.K.A. ASSOCIATES WAS THE ONLY PROPOSAL RECEIVED AND THEY HAVE SERVICED OUR COUNTY SINCE MARCH 2007 AND IN THE PROPOSAL WE REQUESTED WE HAVE CERTIFIED SERVICE TECHNICIANS ON SITE DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS AS WELL AS BEING ON SITE DURING EMERGENCY EVENTS SUCH AS INCLEMENT WEATHER AT THE 9-1-1 COORDINATOR'S DISCRETION AND SO A.K.A. ASSOCIATES HISTORICALLY HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF BEING AVAILABLE TO US AS A COUNTY. I CAN'T RECALL OF ANY SERVICES THAT YOU HAVE A TACK ON SITE NOR NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS AND OUR CURRENT TAX THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR THE PAST 11 YEARS IS JUST AND LEADERS AND IS REALLY DONE A GREAT JOB BEING COMMITTED TO THIS COUNTY AS WELL AS OUR 4911 CALL CENTERS AS WELL. IT'S BEEN GREAT SO AGAIN, I'M

ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RFP. >> WELCOME TO CLAY COUNTY.

THIS IS COMING TO US BECAUSE IT HAS A SINGLE BIDDER. IT COULD GO ON LIKE IT COULDN'T GO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

IF NOT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL

>> AND THE SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> THANK YOU FOR THE THOROUGH EXPLANATION. SIGNIFY BY SAYING I CARED AND THOSE OPPOSED.

MISSION CARRIES >> HOW MUCH DID KAREN PAY YOU TO SAY THAT.

>> SHE DIDN'T PAY ME AT ALL. >> WE ARE GLAD THAT YOU ARE HERE

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> ANY CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS HERE?

[COUNTY MANAGER]

COMMISSIONER AUDITOR, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR US? COUNTY ATTORNEY?

ALL RIGHT. COUNTY MANAGER YOU ARE OUT. >> I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK THING.

I HAVE THE HONOR TO JUST PASS THIS AROUND. I'M GOING TO NEED ATTACK BUT THIS IS A CHAMPIONSHIP RING. YOU MAY HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE YOUNG MEN THAT CAME UP HERE EARLIER. I WANTED YOU PASSED THROUGH IN THE RENEGADE.HIS IS THE SUPER BOWL. JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT AS YOU ALL TAKE A LOOK AT IT BUT I NEED A BACK PLEASE. AND THEN -- I HELD BACK MY COMMENTS.

THEY BEAT A PENNSYLVANIA TEAM THAT IS IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY WHICH IS WHERE I GREW UP.

SO I RESERVE MY COMMENTS FOR MORE PREP THAN FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP.

>> AS THE RING IS GOING AROUND. I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD IN PROVIDING US LEE MANN DIRECTION YOU CAN SEE THOSE AGENDAS AND WE ARE STANDING BY READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS THEY DEVELOP THROUGH THIS. THIS IS REALLY A TIMESAVER FOR US AS A STAFF AND I KNOW EVERYBODY IS EXCITED AND WE WILL HAVE OUR DEPARTMENT HEAD MEETING TOMORROW AND GO OVER ANY ITEMS FROM THE BOARD BUT WE ARE EXCITED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

SO THANK YOU ALL. PENDING ANY QUESTIONS THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSIONER HAPPENS TO KNOW A SUPER BOWL CHAMPION OF HER OWN SO MAYBE THERE IS A MEETING IN THE FUTURE FOR A LITTLE BIT. ACTUALLY, DAVID BRIGHT WITH BRIGHT MINDS I THINK MAY ALSO BE -- I DON'T KNOW IF HE PLAYED IN THE SUPER BOWL BUT I KNOW HE PLAYED IN THE NFL. GREAT MENTOR IN OUR COMMUNITY. THAT THING IS HEAVY.

[24. Discussion of Appointment to the Planning Commission]

ALL RIGHT. LETTERS FOR ACTION. ITEM NUMBER 24, WE HAVE APPLICATIONS -- THREE POSITIONS TO REAPPOINT FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND WE HAVE FOUR APPLICANTS. SO WE NEED TO HAVE DISCUSSION AND MAKE A MOTION AND APPROVE THREE OF THE FOUR APPLICANTS. WE HAVE ONE OF THEM WITH US HERE TONIGHT -- ACTUALLY, IS MR. KRAUT HERE? I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE IN PERSON.

WE HAVE ONE OF THEM HERE WITH US TONIGHT. MARY BRIDGMAN HAS OFFERED HERSELF IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON HER QUALIFICATIONS OR ANYTHING.

SHE SERVES AT LARGE AND IS CURRENTLY THE CHAIR OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

VICE CHAIR. HAS SERVED AS CHAIR. SORRY FOR THAT MISSPEAK THERE.

[02:30:42]

>> LOOKS TO MOVE INTO POSSIBLY LEADERSHIP LOVE TO BE ABLE TO GET THEM IN SOMEPLACE I THINK

SOME >> MOTION AND A SECOND PEER DISCUSSION AROUND THE

COMMISSIONER'S MOTION. >> I WILL SAY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE CONTINUITY OF THE PAST MEMBERS IS WELL KNOWN TO THE CONTINUITY IS IMPORTANT AND THAT'S WHY I RECOMMEND WE GO WITH THE THREE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE ALREADY SERVED ON THE BOARD.

WANT TO CONTINUE. HE WOULD BE QUALIFIED GIVING SOME VACANCY.

THEY ARE APPLYING FOR REAPPLICATION DON'T ALWAYS AGREE.

FOR THOSE WHO THINK THAT -- FIRST ABOUT THE VOLUNTEER COMMITTEE AND WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THEIR SERVICE. THEY REALLY PUT IN A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT ALL FOUR ZERO COMPENSATION BUT VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR PROCESS BUT AGAIN, THOSE THREE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE NONE OF THEM REPRESENT THE BUILDING COMMUNITY. THEY DO REPRESENT THE CITIZENS AND MISS BRIDGMAN HAPPENS TO BE FOR MY DISTRICT SO I APPRECIATE HER SERVICE AS WELL AND FOR YOU COMING TONIGHT AND SITTING THROUGH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING THEN, WE HAVE A MOTION AT THE SECOND AND ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING

[25. Discussion of Appointment to the Historic Preservation Board]

AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0.

NOW WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE APPOINTMENT TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD GABRIELA FRANCO IS SEEKING APPOINTMENT TO FILL THE DISTRICT 1 VACANCY. SO WE HAVE ONE VACANCY AND ONE APPLICANT. AND SO IT'S REALLY LIKE AS A MINISTERIAL VOTE UNLESS SOMEONE HAS REASON THAT MISS FRANCO COULD NOT SERVE BUT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR

DISCUSSION. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL >> SECOND

>> WE HAVE A MOTION DONE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY HAVE YOU READ HER APPLICATION, IT DOESN'T -- SHE DOES HAVE BACKGROUND IN TERMS OF HISTORY AND SHE MAJORED IN HISTORY IN COLLEGE AND ALSO IS WRITING A PAPER WHICH PROPOSES A FLORIDA CONFERENCE THEY'VE OKAYED THAT AND WILL MOVE FORWARD ON THAT SO I THINK SHE'S GOT THE RIGHT INTEREST IN THE BACKGROUND AND WOULD MAKE A VALUABLE MEMBER OF THAT COMMITTEE AND FOR MANY YEARS, WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD WHICH IS CONFINED PEOPLE INTERESTED. SO THIS IS A REAL COUP FOR US TO GET SOMEONE WHO'S INTERESTED IN SERVING AND HAS THAT KIND OF BACKGROUND.

SO I'M FULLY IN SUPPORT OF HER CANDIDACY >> I WOULD AGREE.

WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY

[26. Discussion of Appointment to the Middleburg/Clay Hill Citizens Advisory Committee]

SAYING AYE. WE HAVE A DISCUSSION OF APPOINTMENT TO THE MIDDLEBURG CLAY HILL ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND AS YOU RECALL WE FORMED THE COMMITTEE IN THE DECEMBER MEETING AND WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL APPLICANT WHO IS INTERESTED IN SERVING CYNTHIA MCLEAN. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. THIS IS MY DISTRICT AND I

OBVIOUSLY WOULD APPRECIATE SOMEONE ELSE MAKING THE MOTION. >> AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE

>> SECOND THE MOTION >> WE HAVE A MOTION ON A SECOND.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION AND THIS WILL MAKE NUMBER EIGHT AND HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN WE HAVE ON THE

[02:35:01]

ADVISORY COMMITTEE? >> 11 >> 11.

DOES THAT PRESENT ANY KIND OF PROBLEM? BECAUSE IT'S AN EVEN NUMBER?

>> WE THINK IT'LL BE OKAY. >> BECAUSE THEY COME TO YOU AS A RECOMMENDATION > THEY ARE

AN ADVISORY BOARD SO THEY CAN COME TO THE BOARD. >> IT'S AN ADVISORY FUNCTION

>> THEY CAN COME AND SAY IT WAS A 4-4 BUT WE DON'T HAVE RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME AND

IT SAYS SOMETHING TO THE PLANNING BOARD AS WELL. >> MAY HAVE A MOTION ON A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. MOTION CARRIES 5-0.

WE HAVE OUR LETTERS OF DOCUMENTATION WHICH ARE THE ONES WE LOOKED AT TONIGHT AND

[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]

NOW WE ARE AT OUR SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS THERE ANYONE HEAR WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? WE APPRECIATE THOSE OF YOU WHO STAYED WITH US THROUGH NOT QUITE AS LONG MEETING TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE BACK TO COMMISSIONER

COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER BURKE. >> I WOULD JUST SAY FOR EVERYONE TO REMEMBER THE MARTIN LUTHER KING CEREMONY ON MONDAY AT 11:00 AT VERA FRANCIS PARK ON MARTIN LUTHER KING DOCTOR. I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING NICE FOR EVERYONE TO ATTEND.

>> AND IF YOU HAVE OFF MAYBE YOU HAVE A DAY OF SERVICE IF YOU ARE OFF BEFORE THEN.

THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE MENTIONED OUR ATTENDANCE AT THE REGIONAL COUNCIL AND THE HENDERSON IS OUT IN THE AUDIENCE AND SUPPORTING US AND HAS BEEN FOR MANY OF OUR MEETINGS. WE WERE HONORED TO RECEIVE THE REWARD FOR OUR WORK IN PUBLIC SAFETY BUT WE KIND OF NEED TO KEEP WORKING AND THAT AND IT'S A GOOD VENUE TO GET RECOGNIZED AND IT'S A GOOD VENUE FOR EXCHANGE OF IDEAS AND WE MENTIONED THE PANHANDLING ORDINANCE, THE CITY OF BALTIMORE AND ASKED ME TO FORWARD THIS ORDINANCE AS SOON AS IT'S PASSED BECAUSE IT'S A STATEWIDE AND A NATIONAL PROBLEM THAT A LOT OF THESE ISSUES ARE VERY WIDESPREAD SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE BEST SOLUTIONS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THEM ALL AND THEY DON'T HAVE THEM ALL. IT'S AN EXCHANGE OF IDEAS AND A GOOD MEETING WERE A LOT OF THINGS GET ACCOMPLISHED.O I WANT TO THANK -- IS A BRAND-NEW YEAR. 22 WAS A CHALLENGING YEAR AND I ASSUME 23 IS GOING TO BE AS WELL. I JUST DON'T NOW. MY CRYSTAL BALL IS REALLY CLOUDY. WE SAW A LOT OF ISSUES IN 2022 BUT I'M SURE THERE'S OTHERS WE NEED TO ADDRESS IN 2023 SO I APPRECIATE THE WORK OF EVERYBODY APPEAR AND WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE AND THAT'S GOOD AND THAT'S NORMAL. SO GOOD EXCHANGE OF IDEAS

APPEAR AND WE WILL MOVE FORWARD TO 2023. >>

>> I DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH TO SAY AT THIS POINT OTHER THAN IF YOU'RE GOING TO THE GREEN COVE MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY CEREMONIES ALWAYS THROW A CODE IN YOUR CAR BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS WINDY UPON THAT HELEN USUALLY IS A COLD WIND ALL THAT THEY USUALLY HAVE GOOD FOOD FOR LUNCH THEY SERVE A NICE BARBECUE LUNCH SO HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY WILL MAKE TIME TO GET OUT THERE. I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT YOU FOLKS SUPPORTED WITH ME TONIGHT AND I MEAN SEEMS TO BE SORT OF THE WAY THINGS SHOULD WORK AT LEAST IN MY MIND THEY CAME IN AUGUST AND PRESENTED SOMETHING I DIDN'T THINK THERE WERE CERTAIN THINGS QUITE WRITING DIDN'T FIT CERTAIN WAYS WITH US AND WITH OUR ZONING IN THE AREA THEY WANTED TO PUT THE UNIT WE HAD A COUPLE OF PLEADINGS AND CLEANING STUFF BACK THEY AGREED TO CUT OUT A PORTION DOWN THE NUMBER OF UNITS THE SUM OF THE WETLANDS IN TERMS OF SHEDDING WATER INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IT'S MORE COMPATIBLE THAN IT WAS WHEN THEY FIRST CAME IN AND I LIKE TO THINK WE COULD ACT AS DEVELOPERS WE ARE TO DOCUMENT. DON'T BE AFRAID TO MAKE SUGGESTIONS APARTMENTS IN CERTAIN PLACES AND IF THEY DON'T FIT THEY DON'T FIT IF THEY LOOK LIKE BLENDED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IT SORT OF WORKED A LITTLE BETTER IN THE AREA

[02:40:02]

STILL HAVE IN A MONTH AND I DO APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION ON THAT WOULD SAVE WITH JUST A FEW HOUSEKEEPING TRIED TO WATCH OUR WORKSHOP FROM LAST FRIDAY WE HAD A GOOD WORKSHOP WE MISSED YOU AND WE UNDERSTAND HE HAD A FAMILY I WOULD USE NOT THAT IT COMES BEFORE BIKE WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION WE HAD ZERO SOUND AND MICROPHONE ISSUE SYLVIA PUBLIC APOLOGIZE IT WOULD BE MINUTES SHOULD FOR THE MEETING AS WELL AS THEY DID NOT VOTE ON ANYTHING.

WE WILL BE CONSIDERING ITEMS FOR VOTE AND CHARLIE THAT'S OUR NEXT MEETING ON THE 24TH MEETING THOSE ITEMS WILL BE COMING BACK WAS A GOOD DISCUSSION AROUND PUBLIC SAFETY, AROUND TRAILS AND GREENWAYS AND PARKS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO I WOULD ADD THAT OUR RELATIONSHIP COMMISSIONER VINEGAR AND I GET TO LEAD YOU WILL HAVE THE ABILITY WITH MR. ANDERSON AND THE AUDIENCE IS PARTIES ARE ALIGNING WITH THE REGIONAL COUNCIL'S AND THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA AREA IS HAVING WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AND ALIGNMENT. IT WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION OF THAT MEETING ABOUT PARTNERING UP AND JUST BECAUSE COUNTY LINE SEPARATE REGIONAL COUNCIL ADOPTED THE FIRST EVER WORKPLAN OF ITS KIND AND IN THE PAST THEY'VE HAD MULTIPLE 3 TO 5, SEVEN PRIORITIES THAT DIFFERENT EMPLOYEES WERE WORKING ON THEM INSTEAD THEY HAVE PASSED ONE PRIORITY FOR 2023 AND THAT OF THE CONNECTION OF ALL THE PARKS AND TRAILS AND TOURISM IS KIND OF HEADED UNDER THE BROAD TERM AT ECOTOURISM OF THE WHOLE REGION AND WE HAVE THE BENEFIT THAT MR. ANDERSON OUR REPRESENTATIVE HEADING UP THAT PROJECT SO HE MAY BE CONTACTING YOU AND THEN SOME OF THE STAFF TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT THINGS IN YOUR DISTRICT THAT YOU WANT HIGHLIGHTED AGREEMENT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE REFLECTED SO LOOK FOR THAT AS WELL AS WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT 24 THEM COMING UP THAT REPORT WILL LEAD RIGHT INTO AS CHARLIE SHARED WITH US LAST FRIDAY THAT IN SEPTEMBER WE WILL BE MOVING INTO OUR LEGISLATIVE PARTIES INTO 2024 BECAUSE WE HAVE AN EARLY SESSION NEXT YEAR.NEXT YEAR SESSION WILL BEGIN IN JANUARY VERSUS MARCH SO WE WILL NEED TO BE PREPARED SO WE REALLY ONLY HAVE ABOUT NINE MONTHS TO GET THAT GOING. IF YOU'RE LEGISLATIVE ASKED HER IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THE PRIORITIES COMING IN 23 AGREEMENT SOMETHING TO BE A DIFFERENT PRIORITY DON'T WORRY.

YOU HAVE RIGHT BEHIND IT 24 PRIORITIES UNTIL WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE WE GO WITH THOSE.

WE WOULD JUST ADD THAT AND APOLOGIZE TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE SOUND AND I WOULD ADD TO THE PUBLIC WE KNOW THERE ARE SOUND ISSUES ON THE COMCAST CHANNEL COUNTY STAFF AND COMCAST HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIX THOSE PROBLEMS AND THERE SEEMS TO BE FINGER-POINTING ON COMCAST THAT IS A COUNTY PROBLEM. I KNOW A NUMBER OF YOU WATCH ON -- LISTEN ON FACEBOOK AND WATCH ON YOUR TVS AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

WE APPRECIATE OUR STAFF AND THEIR DEDICATION TO GETTING THIS OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD ADD IS THERE HAVE BEEN A NOTE COMMISSIONER HAD A SERIOUS CRASH IN HER DISTRICT AND THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF I WOULD ASK PEOPLE AS MUCH AS YOU

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