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>> I WILL OPEN THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING FOR DECEMBER 21, 2022. FOR CLAY COUNTY.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS SEPTEMBER 22ND OF 2022.THE ONLY CORRECTION I HAVE TO MAKE FOR THE RECORD IS ON THE LAST PAGE. THERE WERE THREE TIMES THAT I WAS REFERENCED AS OPENING THE FLOOR, CLOSING THE FLOOR AND ADJOURNING THE MEETING, AND I WASN'T AT THE MEETING! THAT WAS OUR ILLUSTRIOUS CHAIRMAN OF VICE, RIGHT HERE.
OTHER THAN THAT, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR
CONCERNS? >> I WILL MOVE FOR APPROVAL WITH NO SUGGESTIONS. I WILL SECOND.
>> HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL.
(INDISCERNIBLE) SAY AYE.> AYE.
OPEN THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.
THIS IS THE TIME YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA, NOT ON THE AGENDA, I HAVE TWO AGENDA ITEMS (INDISCERNIBLE).
BUT YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN FOOTBALL.
[1. Public Hearing to consider Application BOA 22-19, Variance to reduce side setback in AR zoning District. (M.Brown)]
SEEING NOBODY COMING FORWARD, (INDISCERNIBLE) AND BRING IT BACK TO US.GO TO THE ALL-KNOWING (NAME). >> MR. CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD, FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, FOR THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON THE AGENDA IS BOA 22-19.THE APPLICANT IS PATRICIA (NAME), PARCEL IN QUESTION IS LOCATED AT 8653 RIDGE ROAD WITH ZONING OF AGRICULTURE RESIDENTIAL AR WITH FUTURE LAND USE (INDISCERNIBLE). THE REQUEST TO DECREASE THE SIDE SETBACK TO THE AARS ZONING DISTRICT FROM 20 FEET TO 10 FEET. HERE'S AN AERIAL SHOWING THE OUTLINE OF THE PARCEL. THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS LOT 15 OF 707 SUBDIVISION WHICH WAS RECORDED IN 1971, WHICH WAS PRIOR TO ANY ZONING IN THE COUNTY.
THE PARCEL IS 100 FEET WIDE. THE APPLICANT WISHES TO PLACE A NEW RESIDENIAL DWELLING WHICH IS 70 FEET WIDE ON THE PARCEL.
THE APPLICANT HAS PICKED OUT THE DWELLING THAT SHE INTENDS TO PLACE ON THEIR, AND HAS PROVIDED REASONING FOR HAVING TO PICK THAT SPECIFIC DWELLING UNIT AND ITS WIDTH.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE, SO SHE CAN ADDRESS THE SPECIFICS OF THAT. THE WIDTH OF THE DWELLING UNIT WOULD REQUIRE A VARIANCE TO THE REQUIRED 20 FOOT SIDE SETBACK, TO PLACE THE STRUCTURE ON THIS PARCEL.
STAFF FINDS THAT THE REQUESTED VARIANCE TOREDUCE THE SIDE SETBACK IN THE AR ZONING DISTRICT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND THEREFORE, RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE REQUEST . STAFF WILL GO THROUGH THE CRITERIA THAT IS UTILIZED -- SET FORTH IN THE CODE TO JUDGE AND CONSIDER VARIANCES. AS I INDICATED, THE SUBJECT PARCEL WAS PLANTED 100 FEET WIDE, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LOT REQUIREMENT OF THE AR ZONING DISTRICT.
THERE ARE NO OTHER SPECIAL CONDITIONS OR CIRCUMSTANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THE LAND THAT WOULD NOT BE APPLICABLE TO OTHER PROPERTIES WITHIN THE AR ZONING DISTRICT.
AND AGAIN, I THINK A LOT OF IT WILL DEPEND ON THE HARDSHIP THAT THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT DURING HER TIME.
THERE IS NO SPECIAL EXISTING CONDITIONS, AND THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THERE ARE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES RELATED TO FAMILY NEEDS THAT REQUIRE THE DWELLING UNIT THAT IS DESIRED TO BE PLACED ON THE SITE.
THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WILL CONFER ON THE APPLICANT OF
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PRIVILEGE AND DENIED BY OTHER PROPERTIES OWNERS WITHIN THE AR ZONING DISTRICT BY REDUCING THE SIDE YARD SETBACK.THE LITERAL INTERPRETATION OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD NOT DEPRIVE THE APPLICANT OF RIGHTS COMMONLY ENJOYED BY OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS. THERE THE SAME ZONING DISTRICT.
HOWEVER, THE VARIANCE WOULD ALLOW FOR THE DESIRED RESIDENTIAL UNIT TO BE PLACED ON THE PARCEL.
THE REQUESTED VARIANCE IS NOT THE MINIMUM THAT WOULD MAKE THE VIABLE USE OF THE SITE. HOWEVER, BASED ON THE DESCRIBED HARDSHIP, THE NEED FOR THE DWELLING UNIT DESIRED OF VARIANCE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO POLICE THAT STRUCTURE ON THE SITE. THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE IS NOT NECESSARILY IN HARMONY WITH THE INTENT OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, BUT SHOULD NOT BE INJURIOUS OR OTHERWISE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC WELFARE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
>> MY MAP SAYS 100-70 IS 30 FEET, WHICH WOULD BE A 15 FOOT
SETBACK IS OFFSET TO ONE SIDE? >> THAT WAS A REQUEST BY THE
APPLICANT, WAS THE 10 FEET. >> OKAY.
>> I MEAN, DOWN TO 10 FEET. >> OKAY.
>> NO QUESTIONS HERE. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
OF STAFF. >> ARE YOU THE APPLICANT, MA'AM? IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
>> MY NAME IS PATRICIA (NAME), I CURRENTLY LIVE AT 330 SW.
JASMINE AVENUE IN KEYSTONE HEIGHTS FLORIDA.
>> IS EVERYTHING YOU SAY THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD?
>> YES. >> IS THIS GENTLEMAN SAID, YOU COULD BUILD A 60 FOOT WIDE RIGHT NOW.
YOU WANT TO BUILD A 70 FOOT WIDE HOUSE (INDISCERNIBLE) AND YOU ARE ASKING TO TAKE IT DOWN TO 10.
WHY DO YOU NEED A WIDER HOME THEN 60 AND WHY DO YOU NEED
THAT EXTRA LITTLE BIT OF --? >> I ASKED FOR THE 10 ON THE (INDISCERNIBLE) OF THE MANAGER OF MY SITE PLAN.
HE SAID THAT WOULD ONLY TAKE 15, HE WAS NERVOUS THAT IT WOULD BE OFF (INDISCERNIBLE) AND CAUSE ME PROBLEMS LATER
DOWN THE ROAD. >> OKAY.> THE REASON FOR THE 70 FOOT HOME IS I HAVE A SON WHO IS ALMOST 2 ADULT HOOD WITH DOWN SYNDROME. I'M A SINGLE MOTHER.
AND THE HOUSE THAT I HAVE LOOKED VERY HARD TO FIND AND PROBABLY WILL BE THE ONLY ONE I WILL EVER BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT WOULD DO THIS FOR ME IS I WOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE HIM A LIVING QUARTERS THAT CAN BE INDEPENDENT IN THE FUTURE FROM MY LIVING QUARTERS. SO I CAN ALLOW HIM TO BE AS MUCH OF AN ADULT AS HE WILL BE ABLE TO BE.
IT WILL SEPARATE THAT. >> SURE.
IS IT A PRE-MANUFACTURED HOME? >> YES.
>> OKAY. WHO HAS QUESTIONS? COULD WE SEE -- I THINK THERE IS A PLOT PLAN?
>> I DON'T HAVE THAT PLOT PLAN. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
PACKET, BUT I DON'T HAVE IT ON THE --.
>> I LOOKED AT IT. >> YOU ARE RIGHT.
(INDISCERNIBLE) AND PROBABLY WHOEVER'S TRYING TO BUILD IT OR CITE IT -- OKAY. (INDISCERNIBLE) HAVE A COUPLE OF FEET IN CASE YOU DON'T GET IT PLANTED (INDISCERNIBLE).
WHO HAS QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?
>> HOW LONG HAS THAT PROPERTY BEEN IN YOUR FAMILY?
>> MY FATHER BOUGHT IT JULY OF LAST YEAR.
AND THEN, HE PASS AWAY UNEXPECTEDLY IN DECEMBER AND
HE LEFT IT TO ME. >> GIVE US A LITTLE INFORMATION ON HOW MUCH EFFORT IT TOOK YOU TO FIND A STRUCTURE THAT WOULD
WORK FOR YOU. >> MONTHS (LAUGHING).
I HAVE BEEN ALL OVEROCALA. , PAST GAINESVILLE.
HOURS ON THE COMPUTER. I DON'T -- I JUST -- I LOOKED AS MUCH AS I POSSIBLY COULD TO FIND ONE.
SO, MONTHS -- MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS.
I'M A TEACHER, SO I'M NEVER GOING TO MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO BUILD A HOME -- BUILD A HOME THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO
OUTFIT WHAT HE NEEDS. >> WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON TURNING THE HOME SIDEWAYS SO IT FITS?
>> I DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE WOULD BE ANY RESALE VALUE ON
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THAT. AND I ALSO FEEL THAT IT WOULD MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD VERY UNHAPPY.I MEAN, IT WAS DEFINITELY A THOUGHT IF IT HAD TO COME DOWN TO IT. I GUESS, JUST THE WAY THE HOUSE WAS SET UP WOULD BE REALLY AWKWARD ON THE PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND I BELIEVE THAT PROPERTY ALSO HAS 30 -- 35 FOOT FRONT AND SETBACKS AS WELL.
IT'S A VERY LIMITED AREA TO BE ABLE TO BUILD ON OR PUT A HOME
IN. >> JUST A NOTE FOR YOU, I HAD A CASE IN JACKSONVILLE SIMILAR. AND NEIGHBORS WERE THERE AS THEY WERE TRYING TO GET IT APPROVED.
AND HAD CONCERNS AND SO FORTH. THE IDEA OF TURNING IT SIDEWAYS, THE NEIGHBORS WERE WEIGHT AGAINST IT.
>> YOU. >> FOR WHATEVER REASON.
IT WORKED ON ANOTHER WAY TO MAKE IT WORK.
I WILL CONFIRM THAT WAS A PROBLEM.
>> MIKE, HAVE WE HAD ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS (INDISCERNIBLE)?
>> STAFF HAS RECEIVED NO COMMENTS FROM THE OUTSIDE.
>> OKAY. >> IT LOOKS LIKE ALL THE OTHER HOUSES ON THAT STREET, AT LEAST FROM GOOGLE MAPS, THEY ARE ALL FACING THE STREET. BECAUSE THE AERIAL IN THERE ALMOST LOOKS LIKE THAT HOUSE TO THE NORTH OF THAT PROPERTY IS FACING SOUTH AND THAT'S NOT CORRECT.
IF ANYONE IS THINKING THAT OR HAS LOOKED AT IT.
>> YET. >> THAT WAS MY BEST FRIEND'S HOUSE. SHE PASSED AWAY IN MAY FROM CANCER. IT DOES FACE FORWARD IS WHAT I MEANT TO FINISH THE SENTENCE WITH (LAUGHING).
I'M SORRY. >> MIKE, CAN I ASK YOU -- IF THIS IS APPROVED, DOES THE 10 FOOT SETBACK STAY WITH THE PROPERTY IF THE HOUSE WAS MOVED?
>> NO. THE VARIANCE WOULD GO WITH THE
PROPERTY. >> I'VE GOT A QUESTION TOO.
IF WE APPROVE THIS, LET'S SAY, A 15 OR 14 OR WHATEVER TO GIVE A LITTLE WIGGLE ROOM BUT NOT ENOUGH, WHAT HAPPENS -- TO SOMEONE GO OUT THERE AND MEASURE? I ASSUME IT'S A COUPLE OF INCHES IN THE VARIANCE OR SOMETHING? YOU KNOW, TEAR THE HOUSE DOWN
(LAUGHING) WHAT HAPPENS THEN? >> I DOUBT THE COUNTY WOULD FORCE SOMEBODY TO TEAR DOWN THE STRUCTURE -- IT WOULD BE FUNCTIONING PROBABLY AT THAT POINT AS A NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE AND COULD BE MAINTAINED, BUT COULDN'T BE
>> THE REALISTIC RESULT WOULD BE THAT.
>> OKAY.Y ONLY CONCERN IS KIND OF SETTING A PRECEDENT AT 10 FEET, WHEN IT REALLY DIDN'T NEED TO BE.
>> YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO, BUT YOU CAN SAY YOU CAN WORK ON 12 AND A HALF FOOT.
YOU CAN ASK THE APPLICANT, LOOK, WE SEE YOU ARE TRYING TO PUT A 70 FOOT BUILDING. IF WE GIVE YOU TWO AND HALF FEET INSTEAD OF FIVE FEET, COULD YOU LIVE WITH THAT? AND SHE SAYS SHE COULD, YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT (INDISCERNIBLE). INSTEAD OF REVERSING IT TO 10, WE ARE REDUCING AT THE 12 1/2. OR 13.
OR WHATEVER. >> THAT'S FOR DISCUSSION.
>> RIGHT. THAT'S FOR DISCUSSION.
AND WE SAY, YOU KNOW -- THERE ARE SO MANY HOUSES AND THERE THAT THOSE OF US THAT DO THIS FOR A LIVING KNOW THAT THEY BUILD IT RIGHT ON THE SETBACK LINE.
AND (INDISCERNIBLE), YOU GO THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL THAT'S EXACTLY AT 10 FOOT. YOU KNOW? A SURVEYOR MARKS IT, AND THERE'S A LITTLE STAKE IN THE GROUND WITH A PEN ON TOP OF IT. BUT BY THE TIME THEY POUR THE FOUNDATION AND PUT UP THE WALLS AND ALL OF THAT -- NOBODY REALLY CARES. BUT IT'S -- THAT'S JUST -- YOU KNOW. THIS AIN'T NASSAU.
>> RIGHT. >> BUT THIS IS A MANUFACTURED HOME. SO IT LITERALLY SHOULD BE 70 FEET, GIVE OR TAKE AN INCH PERHAPS.
>> YES, SIR. >> IF WE DID 14, THAT WOULD BE
TRY TO GET IT SITUATED THERE. >> IS SEEKING A POOR FOUNDATION
OR PUT IT ON BLOCKS? >> EVENTUALLY.
YES, SIR. I PLAN ON TURNING IT INTO A PERMANENT STRUCTURE AND (INDISCERNIBLE) BLOCK.
>> I GUESS THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT THE HOME, LIKE THE FLOOR
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PLAN? BECAUSE YOU HAVE A DAUGHTER AS WELL? IS THAT CORRECT?>> I HAVE A DAUGHTER. THEY CANNOT SHARE A BATHROOM
ANYMORE. >> SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON --?
>> THAT'S THE ONLY HOUSE I COULD FIND WITH THREE BATHROOMS
>> YES. >> HOW OLD IS YOUR DAUGHTER?
>> SHE'S 10. >> (INDISCERNIBLE).
>> WOULD YOU CONSIDER REDUCING YOUR REQUEST?
>> ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.> WHAT WOULD YOU
BE WILLING TO DO? >> I MEAN, I WOULD BE FINE WITH 15 IF I KNEW THAT, YOU KNOW, A YEAR DOWN THE ROAD I WOULD BE
TOLD --. >> I WOULD RATHER GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF WIGGLE ROOM. I'D BE WILLING TO GO, LET'S SAY, 13. DO YOU LIKE THAT?
>> THAT WOULD BE FINE WITH ME. >> YEAH, I'D BE GOOD WITH THAT.
>> COULD YOU LIVE WITH 13? THAT GIVES YOU AN EXTRA TWO FEET -- YOU KNOW --?
>> SO I HEARD A YES, SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION --.
>> WE ARE STILL ASKING QUESTIONS, SO WE HAVE TO ASK
HER TO SIT DOWN. >> OH, I'M SORRY! OKAY, NO MORE QUESTIONS. YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT.
ANYONE ELSE SITTING FOR OR AGAINST BEFORE MY VOICE RUNS OUT? OKAY, (INDISCERNIBLE).
>> I'D FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH 14.
THAT STILL GIVES YOU TWO FEET ON A MANUFACTURED 70 FOOT HOUSE. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE 72 FEET WIDE. IT'S GOING TO RUN 70, AND MAYBE AN INCH. SO THE NEXT GUY DOESN'T COME
ALONG AND SAY I NEED 11. >> BUT AS THE NEXT GUY GONNA COME ALONG WITH A SITUATION WHERE HE'S GOT TWO KIDS?
>> I DON'T KNOW. BUT ONCE YOU SET THE PRECEDENCE, THAT PART DOESN'T MATTER.
IS, THE NOBODY CAN SAY THAT -- .
>> ARE YOU GOOD WITH 14? OKAY.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE -- WHATEVER THIS ONE IS, D 22- 1919, WITH A 14 FOOT -- TO REDUCE THE SETBACK FROM 20 TO
14 FEET ON BOTH SIDES. >> SECOND.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY OTHER CONVERSATION? ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION,
>> ALL OPPOSE? IT PASSES, 5-0.
[2. Public Hearing to consider Application BOA 22-20; Variance to allow accessory structure to be located in front yard in AG zoning district. (M. Brown)]
CONGRATULATIONS, MA'AM. GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY! NEXT WE HAVE IS POA 22-20.I OFFERED OVER TO MR. BROWN AGAIN.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD. THOMAS BRENNAN AND SISLEY RUSSELL. THE PARCELS LOCATED AT 4249 LAZY ACRES ROAD. IT'S IN THE BRANAN FIELD PUD.
AND I WILL GET INTO WHY THERE IS A DOUBLE ZONING DESIGNATION, FUTURE LAND USE AND AGRICULTURE.
THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE TO LOCATE IN THE FRONT YARD OF A LOT LESS THAN ONE ACRE IN SIZE AND THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT. HERE IS THE AERIAL SHOWING THE PARCEL AND THE EXISTING RESIDENCE.
THE PARCEL IS LOT 79 OF THE LAZY ACRES UNIT TWO SUBDIVISION, WHICH WAS RECORDED IN 1959.
THE PARCEL HAS 100 FOOT WATERFRONT AND IS DEVELOPED WITH A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE ON IT AS YOU SAW IN THE AERIAL.
THE LOT WAS CREATED PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF THE BRANAN FIELD MASTER PLAN. SECTION 33-33 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE STATES THAT LOTS OF RECORD AND DEVELOPMENTS CREATED PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF THE BRANAN FIELD MASTER PLAN SHALL BE EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE MASTER PLAN
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AND SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS OF THE COMP PLAN AND ZONING CODE IN EFFECT OF THE TIME OF THE ADOPTION OF THE MASTER PLAN. AT THE TIME OF THE ADOPTION OF THE MASTER PLAN, THE PARCEL WAS OWNED AGRICULTURE AND DESIGNATED AGRICULTURAL IN THE FUTURE LAND USE.(INDISCERNIBLE). IT REVERTS BACK TO AGRICULTURE.
THE APPLICANT WISHES TO PLACE AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN THE FRONT YARD OF THE PARCEL DUE TO THE LACK OF ACCESS ROOM IN THE REAR OF THE PARCEL. SECTION 3-6D2 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE STATES THAT WITHIN THE AG ZONING DISTRICT, WHERE THE LOT IS LESS THAN ONE ACRE IN SIZE, NO ACCESSORY STRUCTURE MAY BE LOCATED IN THE FRONT YARD.
THUS, THE REQUEST FOR THE VARIANCE.
STAFF FINDS THAT THE REQUEST TO VARIANCE TO ALLOW ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN THE FRONT YARD AND A LOT LESS THAN ONE ACRE IN SIZE AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND OF ATMAN CODE AND RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE REQUEST TO THE VARIANCE. GAIN, I'LL BRIEFLY GO OVER THE ITEMS -- CONDITIONS FOR VARIANCE.THE SUBJECT PARCEL WAS PLANTED AT 80 FEET ALONG THE FRONTAGE WITH LAZY ACRES ROADS AND 100 FEET ALONG THE WATERFRONT.
THE PARCEL IS DEVELOPED WITH AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNIT. THERE ARE NO OTHER SPECIAL CONDITIONS OR CIRCUMSTANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THE LAND OR THE BUILDING INVOLVED, WHICH ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO EITHER PROPERTIES OR STRUCTURESIN THE SAME ZONING DISTRICT.
NO SPECIAL CONDITIONS EXIST ON THE LAND OR THE STRUCTURE .
GRANTING THE VARIANCE WILL CONFIRM THE APPLICANT PRIVILEGE (INDISCERNIBLE) BY ALLOWING AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN THE FRONT YARD. LITERAL INTERPRETATION OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD NOT DEPRIVE THE APPLICANT OF RIGHTS COMMONLY ENJOYED BY OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE SAME ZONING DISTRICT AND LAND USE. THE LITERAL INTERPRETATION WOULD REQUIRE AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE TO BE PLACED AT THE REAR OF THE LOT. AND AS YOU SAW IN THE AERIAL, THERE MAY BE SOME DIFFICULTY IN DOING THAT.
THE REQUESTED VARIANCE IS NOT THE MINIMUM THAT WOULD MAKE THE VIABLE USE OF THIS SITE. THE SITE IS PRESENTLY USED AS A RESIDENTIAL USE. THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE IS NOT NECESSARILY IN HARMONY WITH THE INTENT OF THE LAND OF ATMAN CODE. HOWEVER, STAFF DOES NOT BELIEVE IT WOULD BE INJURIOUS OR OTHERWISE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC WELFARE IF GRANTED. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF, AND I DO. THERE IS A SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED THAT I DID ON THIS ONE INCLUDED IN THE
PRESENTATION. >> WOULD THEY HAVE -- THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO COME BEFORE US FOR A VARIANCE BEFORE THE
BRANAN FIELD PLAN CAME IN? >> THEY PROBABLY WOULD HAVE.
BECAUSE THE CODE WAS FOR AGRICULTURE LAND USE, AGRICULTURAL ZONING. AND THAT WAS IN 06, THAT CONDITION -- THE LIMITATION WAS IN THE CODE AT THAT TIME.
>> OKAY. >> SO THEY WOULD HAVE HAD TO COME GET A VARIANCE TO DO IT PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF THE
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS OF MIKE OKAY.
>> WITH THAT, I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
>> I AM TOM BRENNAN. >> LESLIE RUSSELL.
>> WILL RESIDENCE AT 4249 LAZY ACRES.
WE WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A GARAG , I GUESS IT'S IN OUR FRONT YARD. ALTHOUGH, MOST WATER DWELLERS CONSIDER THE WATERFRONT FRONT YARD.
>> DO YOU SWEAR EVERYTHING THAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO STATE IS THE
TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? >> YES.
SO RIGHT NOW, YOU SAY YOU RUN YOUR BUSINESS OUT OF YOUR DOWNSTAIRS RIGHT NOW? AND (INDISCERNIBLE) FLOODS.
>> LUGGING ALL THE TOOLS OUT AND WHAT HAVE YOU (INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE).
SO YEAH, WE WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A GARAGE WITH A MEZZANINE SO I COULD PUT MOST ALL OF THE TOOLS OF PIPE.
>> SURE. >> (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE).
>> WE ARE ON TV, AND THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU!
>> 42 STATIONS (LAUGHING)! ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY! ESPN! MIKE, IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE
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WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS FROM ANY NEIGHBORS OR
ANYBODY FROM THE OUTSIDE. >> (INDISCERNIBLE) A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF HIDING YOUR HOUSE WITH THIS BUILDING THAT YOU WANT TO BUILD. BUT IT'S YOUR HOUSE, SO.
>> GIVE US A LITTLE MORE PRIVACY, TOO.
BUT YEAH, PART OF IT IS GOING TO BE AN RV STORAGE AND A THREE CAR GARAGE AS WELL. I DO HAVE SOME OTHER SKETCHES I CAN SHOW YOU IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.
BUT YEAH, THE WHOLE IDEA OF PUTTING THE GARAGE ON THE WATERSIDE WOULD BLOCK OUR VIEW. SO THAT'S KIND OF CRAZY.
>> SURE. >> LOOKING AT THE AERIAL, NOT THAT WE DON'T JUDGE IT BASED ON OTHERS, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE EVERYBODY ON EACH SIDE HAD -- STOP.
>> I CANNOT RESPOND AS I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY OBTAINED A VARIANCE OR HOW THOSE GOT APPROVED.
BUT YES. >> NOW THAT YOU MENTIONED IT, ON EITHER SIDE, THEIR GARAGES ARE ON THE STREET SIDE.
>> HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN THERE?
THE HOUSE LOOKS FAIRLY NEW. >> THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 08.
IT SURVIVED IRMA. IT CAME UP TO THE BOTTOM OF THE FLOOR, I GUESS YOU'D SAY. I MEAN, IT WAS BUILT GOOD NEW CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS. WE BEEN IN THERE FOR A YEAR.
SHE'S LIVED IN CLAY COUNTY SINCE ABOUT SIX, I GUESS.
(INDISCERNIBLE). >> YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN THOSE OTHER STRUCTURES MAY HAVE BEEN BUILT? THEY LOOK LIKE THEY'VE BEEN HERE A WHILE.
>> NOT SURE. >> YEAH, THEY HAVE ALL BEEN
THERE A WHILE. >> EVERYTHING IN THAT SECTION FLOODS AT A CERTAIN POINT. EVERY FIVE YEARS, THEY BUMP UP A LITTLE HIGHER. YOU CAN TELL THE AGE OF THE
HOME BY HOW HIGH IT IS. >> YEAH, FORTUNATELY, THE HOME IS OUT OF FLOODS HARM. IT'S JUST THE SHOP DOWNSTAIRS.
>> SURE. DON'T ENCLOSE IT OR PUT IN AN
>> DON'T DO THAT. WE HAD ONE COME BEFORE US.
THEY ENCLOSED IT AND PUT ELECTRIC IN AN ELEVATOR AND SAID OH, NO (INDISCERNIBLE). OKAY.
DO Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS? >> SO IT'S AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE BECAUSE IT'S NOT ATTACHED TO THE HOME.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON ATTACHING IT TO THE HOME SO IT'S NOT AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE?
>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN PICTURES OF THE FRONT OF THE HOME. ARCHITECTURALLY, THE ARCHITECTURE SHOULD BE COMMENDABLE.
COLUMNS AND STAIRS GOING OFF BOTH SIDES.
YOU'D HATE TO (INDISCERNIBLE). I DON'T THINK IT WOULD DO IT JUSTICE. THE HOUSE IS BEAUTIFUL.
SO THE GARAGE WILL BE OUT BY THE STREET CLOSER.
HE ALSO BE ABLE TO SEE THE HOUSE, BUT TO TRY AND ATTACH IT? I DON'T THINK YOU COULD DO IT ARCHITECTURALLY JUSTICE.> IS THERE MUCH ELEVATION DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE GROUND WHERE YOUR HOME IS NOW IN THE GROUND WHERE
THE NEW GARAGE WOULD BE? >> YEAH, ACTUALLY WHERE THEY BUILT THE HOME, THEY MUST HAVE BROUGHT A LOT OF FILL IN.
PBECAUSE OUR YARD IS PROBABLY A FOOT AND AND A HALF OR SO HIGHER IN BOTH NEIGHBORS THAN THE OTHER SIDE.
BUT IT'S LEVEL ALL THE WAY ACROSS.
>> OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? CONCERNS?
>> HAVE YOU TALKED TO YOUR NEIGHBORS?
>> YEAH, WE TALK TO OUR NEIGHBORS.
THEY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
>> AND YOU SAID YOU HAVE SOME OTHER, LIGHT, PAPERWORK? OTHER DRAFTS OR SOMETHING ON HAND? TO SHOW --? ANYTHING ADDITIONAL?
>> (INDISCERNIBLE) SKETCH THAT I HAD COME UP WITH (INDISCERNIBLE) SHOWING THE OUTLINE OF THE --.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS ON THE WEB --?
>> YEAH, I SEEN IT ON THERE. YOU JUSTMENTIONED HAVING ADDITIONAL STUFF . (INDISCERNIBLE).
>> AND I SEE THAT? I JUST WANT TO SEE HOW FAR IT IS IN RELATION TO HOWCLOSE THE OTHERS ARE .
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THERE. IT'S KIND OF LIMITED.>> EXACTLY. HAVING TO GO FORWARD OF THE
DRAIN FIELD --. >> HAVE THE NEIGHBORS SEEN THE DRAWING OF WHAT YOU INTEND BUT THERE?
>> I HAVEN'T SHOWN THEM YET. BUT I FIGURED ONCE I GET THE VOTING PART (INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE).
>> YEAH. >> MIKE OR THE APPLICANT, HAVE YOU CHECKED -- IT'S NOT TOO MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE
PROPERTY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? >> THEY WOULD NOT EXCEED THE
LOT COVERAGE ISSUE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU, FOLKS. KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A SEAT AND OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.
YOU CAN HAVE YOUR DRAWINGS BACK.
THIS APPLICATION? NOT SEEING ANYBODY, I'LL CLOSE IT AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.
DISCUSSION. I UNDERSTAND IT DOES LOOK KIND OF HUGE FOR THE AREA. BUT WHAT THEY ARE HERE FOR (INDISCERNIBLE) IN THE FRONT YARD IS THE THING.
>> NOT THE SIZE. >> NOT THE SIZE.
AND I DO SEE -- LIKE I SAID, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE AERIAL, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT OVER THERE IN THAT PICTURE OF PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES HAVE SOMETHING IN THE FRONT YARD.
I DON'T KNOW THE REST OF THE PROPERTY ALONG THERE, WHETHER IT DOES OR NOT. BUT FOR SURE, THE OTHERS DO.
THOSE DO. >> BUT I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER FACTORS. THE SIZE OF IT, WHERE IT'S LOCATED. IT BLOCKS THE NEIGHBORS USE UP THE ROAD. IT'S HUGE.
IT'S HUGE. AND THEY MAY HAVE SOMETHING THERE THAT WAS BUILT WITHOUT A PERMIT.
WE DON'T KNOW AND WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO LOOK TO THE RIGHT OR LEFT. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT JUST
WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. >> AS FAR AS LOCATION, IT DOES APPEAR WITH THE LOCATION OF THE DRAIN FIELD, THAT IS ABOUT THE ONLY EASY PLACE (INDISCERNIBLE).
>> I MEAN, I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BILL.
THE BUILDING THEY WANT TO BUILD IS QUITE LARGE.
THE ONE PHOTOGRAPH WE HAVE OF THEIR HOME, IT LOOKS GORGEOUS,
>> I HOPE THIS IS IN A BIG (INDISCERNIBLE) INDUSTRIAL LOOP OF LAWRENCE PARK. BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE AWAY VALUE. WOULD BE NICE SIZE WISE FOR
WHAT HE NEEDS. >> SIZE WISE, IT'S A HOUSE.
T'S PUSHING 1800 SQUARE FEET. >> OH, NO.T'S BIGGER THAN THAT. I MEAN, IT'S 50 FEET DEEP AND 35 FEET WIDE. SO IT'S GOING TO BE THE SIZE OF THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE. BUT LIKE TOM SAID, I MEAN, THEY ARE HERE BECAUSE (INDISCERNIBLE) THE FRONT YARD.
I MEAN, IF IT WAS A 12 FOOT BY 12 FOOT, THAT LOOK LIKE THE HOUSE WOULD PROBABLY SAY GREAT. YOU KNOW, LAWN CARE AND STORAGE THING. BUT I THINK I WILL HOLD UP IS
BECAUSE IT'S 35 BY 50 FEET. >> WOULD FIT IN THE BACKYARD?
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>> NO. >> PART OF IT IS FOR MOTORHOME.
YOU NEVER GET BACK THERE TO GET IN IT.
>> BUT THE PROBLEM IS, THE TURNING RADIUS ON THOSE SUCKERS IS, YOU KNOW -- THEY CAN TURN IT, BUT HARD TO MANEUVER.
HAVE TO BE INSIDE THE GARAGE. ND LIKE YOU SAID, THEY DON'T WANT TO BLOCK THEIR VIEW OF BLACK CREEK EITHER.
>> I GUESS IT REALLY ISN'T ENOUGH ROOM ON THAT SIDE.
>> YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE WATER LIKE THAT HAVING A BUILDING IN THEIR FRONT YARD. MY PROBLEM IS HOW BIG THE BUILDING IS. I KNOW (INDISCERNIBLE) EQUATION. IT SHOULD JUST BE YES OR NO, CAN THEY HAVE IT IN THEIR FRONT YARD?
BUT -- I WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM. >> IF IT WAS JUST AN RV GARAGE YOU COULD ATTACH IT TO THE HOUSE AND NOT TOTALLY RUIN THE ARCHITECTURE. BUT WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT FITS IN RV, +3 OTHER BAYS, PLUS WORKSPACE.
IT'S WAY BIGGER THAN WHAT IS NEEDED FOR AN RV.
>> (INDISCERNIBLE). >> 12 FOOT NINE.
>> HE'S GOT A 22 FOOT HEADER. >> THEY'VE GOT BASICALLY A METHYLENE DOWN THERE.
SO THAT AREA THROUGH THERE IS HIGH ENOUGH FOR STORAGE.
THIS IS A POLE BARN. AND THIS IS LIKE A SHED YOU CAN GET LIKE AT HOME DEPOT WITH AN EXTENSION OF THE BACK.
THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. >> OKAY, MAYBE I CAN'T SEE IT
THAT WELL. >> WHAT'S A TWO-STORY GARAGE?
>> (INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE).
>> I KNOW YOU'RE A LITTLE WAYS UP.
>> YEAH, COME BACK UP TO THE MICROPHONE.
>> THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE TO THE RIGHT OF OUR HOME, IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT THAT AERIAL VIEW, IS ACTUALLY A TWO-STORY GARAGE. THE GARAGE IN THE BOTTOM AREA.
AND IT'S A TOTALLY SAME SIZE STORAGE AREA ON THE SECOND LEVEL. ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE ON THAT AERIAL VIEW, THAT ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS ACTUALLY TWO FLOORS. THE SECOND FLOOR IS AN APARTMENT. IT PROBABLY ISN'T EVEN PERMITTED FOR AN APARTMENT, BUT THAT'S AN APARTMENT WHERE HIS TEENAGE SON LIVES. IN THE BOTTOM PART IS OPEN FOR STORAGE. PART OF IT IS CLOSED, PART OF
IT OPEN. >> IS THAT LIKE A TINY HOME
APARTMENT? >> I GUESS YOU COULD CALL IT
>> BUT YEAH, OBVIOUSLY THE HOME, ARCHITECTURALLY, IS BEAUTIFUL. WE WOULD NOT WANT TO DESTROY THAT, SO WE WOULD DO A NICE JOB WITH THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE TO MAKE IT BLEND IN AND COMPLEMENT THE HOUSE.
WE'RE NOT DUMB ENOUGH TO SAY WE'RE JUST GONNA WORRY ABOUT.
>> WHAT ARE YOU BUILDING IT OUT OF?
IS IT STUCCO? >> AM NOT SURE YET.
IT MAY BE A PRE-ENGINEERED BUILDING, BUT WILL DO SOMETHING BETTER ON THE OUTSIDE THEN JUST CORRUGATED METAL.
>> CAN I ASK A PROCEDURAL QUESTION? MAYBE MORE TO MIKE OR CHAIR? IF WE WERE TO VOTE IT DOWN, HE CAN'T COME BACK FOR THAT SAME THING WITHIN A YEAR?
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ON THE SAME TYPE OF THING? WHAT IS THAT RULE?>> VARIANCE, I BELIEVE, I THINK IT IS A YEAR.
>> IT'S A YEAR. >> IT'S A YEAR.
THAT ANSWERS ONE PART. ANOTHER PART, ARE WE ALLOWED TO LIKE TAKE A STRAW POLL BEFORE WE VOTE? I JUST MY THOUGHT COULD BE THAT IF THE STRAW POLL SHOWED US VOTING IT DOWN BECAUSE OF THE SIZE, THE APPLICANT MAY WANT TO REQUEST TO DEFER AND THINK ABOUT A REDUCED SIZE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT HE DOES, BUT ONE, CAN WE DO THAT? AND IF WE CAN, THEN THAT GIVES THEM A CHOICE OF WHETHER HE MAY
WANT TO DO THAT OR NOT. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY? THIS IS ONLY TO ALLOW FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
THERE IS NO APPROVAL OF SIZE. ON WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO VOTE ON. IT'S WHETHER AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE CAN BE (INDISCERNIBLE) IN THE FRONT
YARD. >> WE'VE APPROVED THESE IN THE PAST AS BEST AS I CAN REMEMBER. SOMEONE SAYS I'M IN A BUILD A 12 BY 18. I'M JUST GONNA PICK A NUMBER.
APPROVAL OF A 12 BY 18 IN THE FRONT YARD.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN GO OUT AND BUILD A 30 BY 40 IN THE FRONT YARD. TYPICALLY, WE PUT THE FOOTAGE
IN THERE. >> YOU HAVE THAT PREROGATIVE TO
>> AND TO TOM'S POINT, I HAVE TWO CONCERNS: THE SIZE.
THE STRUCTURE IN THE FRONT YARD DOESN'T BOTHER ME.
BECAUSE WE HAVE THOSE ALL THE TIME OF SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.
ND THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE THE BUILDING IN THEIR BACKYARD.
I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT THE SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE IS MY CONCERN AND NOT KNOWING WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE BOAT THAT SHOW HOW IT'S GOING TO LOOK. BECAUSE LIKE BILL SAID, YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE REALLY GOING TO SEE THIS SUCKER.
IT'S GOING TO BE IN THEIR FRONT YARD TOO.
BECAUSE YOUR CLASS A IS QUITE HIGH.
AND YOU NEED THE 50 FOOT. I REALIZE THAT.
AND YOU'VE GOT YOUR THREE-CAR GARAGE AND YOU HAVE THE CORNER THERE, A WORKSHOP THING. YOU HAVE THREE CARS THIS WAY, AND THE CLASS A THAT WAY. SO I UNDERSTAND THE REASONING FOR THE SIZING. IF IT WAS MY HOUSE? I'D PARK THE CLASS A ON ONE SIDE AND THREE CARS ON THE OTHER. I MAKE TWO BUILDINGS OUT OF IT.
BECAUSE THEREFORE, NEITHER BUILDING WOULD BE AS IMPACTFUL AS THIS THING ALL PULLED TOGETHER.
THAT'S JUST HOW I FEEL. >> WE DO HAVE THE OPTION TO
>> OR WE CAN TABLE IT. >> AND LET THEM THINK --.
>> AND LET THEM BRING A REVISED PLAN.
>> OR INFORMATION OR WHATEVER. >> I THINK WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITHOUT VOTING THAT WE ARE NOT READY TO ALLOW THAT HUGE BUILDING. BUT WE MIGHT ALLOW ONE FOR AN RV -- OR SOMETHING. BUT WE DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO TABLE IT OR HAVE THEM COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT PLAN.
>> RIGHT. >> I MEAN, SPEAKING FOR MYSELF ONLY? WITH THE INFORMATION I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW, I CAN'T VOTE TO APPROVE IT.
MY FEARS IT'S GOING TO BE A (INDISCERNIBLE) BUILDING.
MY JOB IS TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORS.
AND ITS BIG BUILDING, TOO. OF COURSE, I HAVE A CAR COLLECTION AND I HAVE 1/5 WHEEL.
SO I'M IN THE SAME BOAT YOU ARE IN.
SO I BOUGHT A FARM OVER LAKE CITY AND I KEEP THEM ALL OVER THERE IN A BIG ASS BARN. AND IF I WAS GOING TO BUILD THIS IN MY FRONT YARD, I WOULD WANT TO DO IT DIFFERENTLY.
BUT I'M IN THAT BUSINESS. SO, YOU KNOW, WERE IN THE BUSINESS OF HOW WOULD WE DO IT? YOU KNOW? NOW I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA LIKE THIS BUILDING WHEN YOU FINISH IT, BUT THAT'S NOT MY VOTE.
BUT I DO HAVE TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORS ON EITHER SIDE.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF LIKE THE LADY IN FRONT OF YOU ONE OF THE SIDE YARD SETBACK REDUCED. YOU'VE GOT YOUR CLASS A PARKED ON THE SIDE OF YOUR HOUSE RIGHT NOW.
YOU COULD ALMOST ASK FOR A REDUCTION OF THAT -- OF THE
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SIDE YARD -- TO PUT AN ENCLOSURE OVER THAT.THEREFORE, IT'S AN ATTACHED STRUCTURE LIKE BILL WAS TALKING ABOUT. AND THEN, HAVE A SMALLER THREE-CAR GARAGE UP IN THE FRONT THAT ALSO HAS STORAGE FOR YOUR TOOLS IN CASE OF FLOODING OR THAT KIND OF THING.
SINCE THE PROPERTY IS ALL ABOUT THE SAME LEVEL, YOU'RE GONNA MOVE YOUR THREE CARS IN THE CLASS E TO GET IT OUT OF THE FLOOD ANYWAY. (INDISCERNIBLE) SO I WOULD SAY BUILD A TWO-STORY, THREE-CAR GARAGE OUT THERE WITH THE MEZZANINE. WE STILL HAVE ROOM FOR THREE CARS ANYWAY. THERE IS MORE THAN ONE WAY TO
SKIN A CAT. >> WE CAN KIND OF ADVISE YOU OF THOSE TWO OPTIONS. WE WILL DENY IF WE VOTE.
OR YOU CAN TABLE THIS AND COME BACK IN ANOTHER MONTH.
SET IT UP WITH THE COUNTY WITH A DIFFERENT PLAN.
THAT WE CAN -- WE MAY DENY AT THAT TIME, TOO.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO WORK FOR US THE WAY IT SITS.
>> AND I WOULD BE A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE VOTING FOR -- I KNOW THE NEIGHBORS SAW THE SIGNS OUT THERE.
THEY KNOW THERE'S A HEARING ON THIS.
I'D BE A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE VOTING ON IT KNOWING THAT THE NEIGHBORS SAW WHAT SIZE, HOW TALL IT IS, WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE. AND THEN, THEY CAME IN OR SENT A LETTER SAYING WE ARE OKAY WITH THAT.
>> BECAUSE THEIR STRUCTURES ARE RELATIVELY SMALL IN COMPARISON.
THEY MIGHT BE THINKING THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR.
SO --. >> AND THOSE NEIGHBORS MIGHT NOT BE OR TO COMPLAIN, BECAUSE THEY MIGHT HAVE THEIR YOUNG AND LIVING UPSTAIRS IN AN UNPERMITTED BUILDING.'M JUST THINKING! I'VE SEEN THAT BEFORE.
>> IF I COULD GET THE NEIGHBORS TO SIGN OFF ON SOMETHING COME
UP WITH THAT --? >> ANY TIME THAT YOU CAN GET A LETTER FROM A NEIGHBOR SAYING WE'VE SEEN THE PLAN, WE KNOW THE SIZE, WE KNOW THE EXTERIOR LOOK OF IT? MEAN, YOU HEARD MY CONCERNS FOR THE NEIGHBORS. THE SIZE ON THE GROUND, THE HEIGHT, AND MATERIALS. IF THE NEIGHBOR SAYS, YOU KNOW, THEY TOLD ME IT WAS GOING TO BE STUCCO, IT WAS GONNA BE VINYL SIDING, IT WAS GOING TO BE BRICK, WHATEVER.
PAINTED BLOCK? YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBOR HAS NO PROBLEM WITH THE SIZE? THAT TAKES A LOT OF THAT BURDEN OFF OF ME. BECAUSE I'VE GOT NEIGHBORS ON EITHER SIDE THAT SAID HEY, WE HAD NO PROBLEM (INDISCERNIBLE).
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO SAY.
NOT ONLY IS THIS SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR EVERYBODY DOWN THE STREET FROM YOU TO BUILD A 35 BY 50 FOOT BUILDING IN THEIR FRONT YARD THAT'S TWO STORIES TALL, THE WALK AND SAY WELL, YOU APPROVED THEIRS. HERE'S MINE.
AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY WHEREWITHAL TO DENY IT.
SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ALONG THOSE LINES.
>> UNDERSTAND. >> BUT OF THE OTHER PEOPLE INSIDE ARE HAVING THE SAME KIND OF DEAL? YOU KNOW, WE SEE THAT. LAKE ASBURY, KEYSTONE, BLACK CREEK, A LOT OF PLACES. DOCTORS LAKE.
WHERE PEOPLE HAVE ACCESSORY BUILDINGS IN THEIR FRONT YARD BECAUSE THEY WANT THEIR BACKYARD TO BE PRISTINE BECAUSE
>> SO A SUGGESTION MIGHT BE A DESCRIPTION OF LIKE WHAT YOU SAID. ON A SHEET OF PAPER.
AND THEN, REALLY WELL DESCRIBED.
IT'S THIS BIG. TO MAKE IT OUT OF THIS AND THIS.ND HERE IS MARY THAT LIVES AT THIS ADDRESS WHO
SIGNED IT AND SO ON.>> THAT WOULD WORK.
A LETTER FROM THEM. JUST SOMETHING THAT SHOWED THEY'VE SEEN IT. YOU KNOW?
>> I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO MESS UP YOUR BACKYARD, BUT THAT ENTIRE STREET, I THINK Y'ALL'S HOUSE IS THE ONLY ONE WITH ROOM
IN THE BACK. >> YEAH, EVERYTHING US E IS
RIGHT ABOVE THE WATER. >> IN MY MIND THAT MAKES IT HEY, WE BEEN HERE MORE THAN A YEAR.
WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT THIS BUILDING IN THIS BACKYARD AND WE JUST DON'T WANT TO. IS THAT LIKE A FOREVER HOME? SIX MONTHS FROM NOW, YOU SELL THAT HOUSE -- YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WE PUT THIS GIANT THING IN THE FRONT. IF THERE IS A PROPERTY HERE FOR THAT STRUCTURE TO GO IN THE BACKYARD, IT'S YOUR PROPERTY.
I DON'T THINK YOU COULD MAKE IT SWING AND GET IT UNLESS YOU
HAVE A --. >> HE HAS A BACK THE NEXT OF THE HOUSE --.
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STRAIGHT IN THE GARAGE IN THE BACKYARD DOES FOR THE ALIGNMENT OF THE GARAGE IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH HIS DRIVEWAY.>> IF HE HAD A (INDISCERNIBLE) SETBACK.
BROUGHT UP. HE COULD BUILD A GARAGE RIGHT THERE ATTACHED TO THE HOUSE. (INDISCERNIBLE) BE A SIDE YARD
SETBACK AS WELL. >> AGAIN, YOU LOSE ALL THE VISIBILITY BEHIND IT. WHY EVEN HAVE A HOUSE ON THE WATER? IT ACTUALLY WOULD BE BETTER IF THE HOUSE WAS BACK FURTHER. AND THEN, THE GARAGE, INSTEAD OF BEING UP --
>> YOU KNOW -- I THINK WE HAVE QUESTIONS.
AND IF WE HAD TO VOTE TODAY, RIGHT HERE AND NOW, I THINK YOU HAVE AT LEAST THREE OF THE FIVE OF US VOTING AGAINST WHAT YOU ARE REQUESTING. THINK A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS CAN BE ANSWERED BY CONTACTING YOUR NEIGHBORS, TALKING ABOUT MATERIALS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF, AND COMING BACK.
AND IF WE JUST DEFER THIS TO A LATER DATE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY A NEW APPLICATION FEE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
(INDISCERNIBLE) ADVERTISE. BECAUSE ANYBODY WHO CAME TO SPEAK (INDISCERNIBLE). AND IT GIVES YOU A CHANCE TO TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS AND TALK ABOUT MATERIALS AND THAT KIND OF THING. BECAUSE I JUST THINK IF I WAS LIVING NEXT TO YOU AND YOU BUILT THIS OUT OF CORRUGATED METAL -- I'M NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY.
BUT IF IT LOOKS AS NICE AS YOUR HOUSE, I WOULD BE TICKLED PINK
BECAUSE YOUR HOUSE IS GREAT. >> YEAH, NO, WE WOULD LOVE TO DO IT IN (INDISCERNIBLE) BOARD TO MATCH THE HOUSE.
BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW PRACTICAL THAT IS.
BECAUSE THE SPACING ON, YOU KNOW, THESE PRE-ENGINEERED BUILDINGS IS LIKE FIVE FOOT METAL SPACING BETWEEN THE LEGS, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY. SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO PUT CROSS BRACING IN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I SUPPOSE, TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. ONE MANUFACTURER ACTUALLY HAS A SIDING THAT LOOKS JUST LIKE CLAPBOARD.
BUT IT'S METAL, BUT IT'S CLAPBOARD LOOK INSTEAD OF
CORRUGATED. >> YEAH.THERE'S AN OUTFIT OUT OF OCALA THAT DOES THAT. I WANT TO CALL IT TOUGH HOUSE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I'VE SEEN THEIR STUFF.
AND IT DOES -- IT LOOKS -- BECAUSE MY HOUSE IS HARDY BOARD. UNTIL YOU GET UP TO IT.
AND YOU GO OKAY, I THOUGHT IT WAS FOR DOMINIC (INDISCERNIBLE). THAT'S AT LEAST ME TALKING.
I LIKE A BETTER FEEL FOR WHAT THE NEIGHBORS FEEL AND WHAT THIS THING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
>> FAIR ENOUGH. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT I NEEDED TO GET INTO THOSE DETAILS FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A (INDISCERNIBLE) FOR THE FRONT
YARD. >> IF IT WASN'T FOR THE PURE SIZE OF WHAT THIS IS, WE WOULDN'T HAVE GONE THERE.
BUT YOU KNOW, YOU WERE BUILDING SOMETHING THIS BIG ON THE
GROUND AS YOUR HOUSES. >> GO BIG OR STAY HOME!
>> WELL, IT'S CAN BE A DAMN NICE BUILDING WHEN YOU ARE FINISHED, I'LL TELL YOU THAT! I WISH I HAD THAT KIND OF SPACE 12 FEET FROM MY HOUSE, TOO. SO GET WITH STAFF.
ARE WE OKAY TO CONTINUE THIS THING? OR DO WE HAVE TO CLOSE IT AND TAKE A VOTE FOR CONTINUANCE?
>> (INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE).
>> IT WOULD BE JANUARY 26. >> OKAY.
>> WOULD BE CONTINUED UNTIL THE 26.
>> IS A MONTH ENOUGH TIME? >> I WISH IT WAS TWO WEEKS FROM NOW (LAUGHING). THE MEETING WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DECEMBER 1 BUT THEN I GOT PUSHED OFF (INDISCERNIBLE).
>> OKAY. SO WE WILL CONTINUE THIS.
WILL CONTINUE THIS UNTIL THE 26.
TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS AND BRING US A LITTLE INFORMATION, AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE. LOOKS VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU. >> I HAVE A MOTION THAT WE CONTINUE WITH TILL THE NEXT MEETING WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR
>> I'VE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR A CONTINUANCE OF BOA 22-20.
>> IT PAST 5-0. WE WILL SEE YOU IN A MONTH.
THANK YOU. MR. BROWN, ANYTHING ELSE?
>> STAFF IS NOTHING ELSE. >> IS THAT THE ONLY THING ON
OUR AGENDA? >> NO, WE HAVE TWO MORE.
>> TWO MORE? >> I'M SORRY, BUT YOU'RE A
POPULAR --. >> WE ARE A POPULAR BUNCH OF GUYS!COMMENT. OFFICER ONE, OFFICER TWO, NOTHING TO SAY?
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