Dec 13, 2022 BCC Agenda

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>> OKAY, IF EVERYONE IS READY, AND IT CAN TAKE THEIR SEATS WE WILL HAVE OUR INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE.

>> THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO SO, DO SO. LORD AS WE GATHER HERE AS MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WE PRAY WE ARE MINDFUL OF OPPORTUNITIES TO RENDER SERVICE TO CITIZENS AND THE COMMUNITY.

WE PRAY FOR THE AGENDA AND GRANT US THE WISDOM WITH CONFLICTING INTERESTS AND GIVE US THE ABILITY TO WORK TOGETHER IN HARMONY EVEN WHEN THERE IS DISAGREEMENT.

THANK YOU FOR BEING THE SOURCE OF OUR GUIDANCE.

BLESS THIS MEETING, ALL PRESENT AS WELL AS THE LIVES WE ENCOUNTER AFTERWARDS. MAKE EVERY MOMENT COUNT, IN

JESUS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN. >> AND WE ARE GLAD THAT YOU ARE FEELING BETTER. THIS AFTERNOON WE ARE PRIVILEGED TO HAVE OUR PLEDGE LED BY PRIVATE FIRST CLASS FROM THE U.S. ARMY JORDAN BRIMLOW. HE JOINED THE ARMY ON FEBRUARY 22, 2010 AND SERVED TWO YEARS WHICH INCLUDED ONES WHO ARE OUT OF SHIN DAN AND THE PROVINCE OF AFGHANISTAN.

DURING HIS SERVICE HE RECEIVED A METAL WOOD CAMPAIGN STAR, A NATO SERVICE MEDAL A NATIONAL DEFENSE SERVICE MEDAL, A GLOBAL WAR ON TERRORISM AND AN ARMY RIBBON. HE IS A CRINKLED SPRINGS RESIDENT CURRENTLY VOLUNTEERS WITH US.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS

AFTERNOON. >> SO IF YOU WILL PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AS WE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?

>> I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR HAVING ME.

I FEEL TRULY BEEN BLESSED FOR THE COMMUNITY I WAS JUST SAYING WHERE I AM FROM THE VETERAN COMMUNITY IS NOT THAT BIG.

SO TO COME TO CLAY COUNTY AND BE EMBRACED THE WAY WE ARE IS SUPER IMPACTFUL. IT'S VERY GOOD FOR ME AND MY FAMILY. WE LOVE YOU AND WE APPRECIATE YOU AND WE THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR US AND OPERATION BARNABAS AND THE COUNTY. I LOVE CLAY COUNTY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. .

[CALL TO ORDER]

[PET ADOPTIONS]

>> OKAY OUR FIRST DOG TODAY IS MATTA LINE A SPAYED FEMALE 2-YEARS-OLD AND WEIGHS 52 POUNDS.

SHE IS A SWEET GIRL THAT LOVES PEOPLE OF ALL SORTS.

SHE WOULD DO BEST WITH A CALM DOG BECAUSE SHE IS LAID-BACK AND DOES NOT WANT TO BE BOTHERED WITH A LOT OF ENERGY.

HOWEVER, IF YOU ONLY WANT ONE DOG IN YOUR LIFE SHE WOULD MIND THAT BECAUSE SHE LOVES BEING THE CENTER OF ATTENTION.

SHE IS UP TO DATE ON HER VACCINES, MICROCHIP AND HEART WARM NEGATIVE. NEXT WE HAVE BAILEE SPAYED FEMALE, MIXED BREED 11 MONTHS OLD AND WEIGHS 48 POUNDS.

BAILEY IS WAITING FOR HER CHRISTMAS WISH TO COME TRUE, A PART OF HER FAMILY. SHE IS DOG FRIENDLY, CRATE TRAINED, HOUSETRAINED, KNOWS BASIC COMMANDS AND ENJOY CAR RIDES AND WATER TIME. BAILEY IS A HIGH-ENERGY GIRL, SO SHE NEEDS A FENCED IN YARD TO BURN OFF THE ENERGY.

SHE IS ALSO A LOVER OF ALL PEOPLE INCLUDING KIDS, BUT SHE MAY BE TOO MUCH FOR YOUNG CHILDREN.

SHE IS UP TO DATE ON HER VACCINES, MICROCHIP AND HEART WARM NEGATIVE. OUR FIRST CAT TODAY IS ;-).

THAT IS THE CAT ON THE RIGHT. SPAYED FEMALE DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR THREE MONTHS OLD. ;-) HAS HAD A TOUGH START TO LIGHT BUT SHE IS MAKING THE BEST OF IT.

SHE WOULD LOVE TO GO HOME WITH HER BROTHER BECAUSE HE

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SHE IS UP-TO-DATE ON HER VACCINES AND MICROCHIP.

AND THIS IS THE NEUTERED MALE DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR, THREE MONTHS OLD. DOBBY HAS THE JOB OF TAKING CARE OF HIS SISTER. HE TAKES HIS JOB SERIOUSLY AND WOULD LOVE TO BE BY HER SIDE FOREVER.

DOBBY IS SWEET, SOCIAL AND AN ALL-AROUND GOOD GUY.

DOBBY IS UP-TO-DATE UP TO DATE ON HIS VACCINES AND IS MICROCHIP. AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN OUR KITCHEN CREW WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR FOSTERS.

[SPECIAL STAFF RECOGNITION]

ADOPTIONS. >> WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROCLAMATIONS BUT WE DO HAVE A STAFF RECOGNITION SO IF THE

BOARD COULD JOIN ME DOWN FRONT. >> OKAY, WE ARE JOINED BY ASSISTANT COUNTY MANAGER. TODAY, WE HAVE A SPECIAL STAFF RECOGNITION OF MISS BRENDA SULLIVAN FROM ENGINEERING.

SHE IS RETIRING. WHILE SHE JOINS US, WITH ALMOST 35 YEARS OF SERVICE, BRENDA SUTHERLAND WILL RETIRE FROM SERVICE ON DECEMBER 31, 2022. SHE BEGAN HER CAREER IN A PART-TIME POSITION AT THE ROSEMARY HILL LANDFILL IN FEBRUARY, 1988. SHE WAS LATER PROMOTED IN JUNE 1999, TO A CLERK TO POSITION A PUBLIC WORKS.

SHE WAS FURTHER PROMOTED TO AN OPERATIONS ASSISTANT POSITION IN APRIL, 1992 PLANE A BIG ROLE IN GETTING PAYROLL DATA ORGANIZE FOR PROCESSING BEFORE THE COUNTY HAD AN AUTOMATC PROCESSING.

TODAY SHE'S LEAVING THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS SERVING AS A OPERATING ASSISTANT SINCE 19 RESPONSIBLE FOR PROCESSING DRIVEWAY PERMITS. SHE ALSO ENJOYED A PART-TIME CAREER AS A CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE AT PUBLIX AND RETIRED THERE WITH OVER 20 YEARS OF SERVICE.

SHE LOVES ANTIQUING WITH HER HUSBAND AND LOOKING FORWARD TO SPENDING MORE TIME WITH HER GRANDKIDS, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR RETIREMENT. YOU WILL BE MISSED.

>> MISS BRENDA, WE WILL MISS YOU, I WILL MISS YOU BEING THE VOICE OF ENGINEERING. I WILL ALSO MISS HER BECAUSE IF I CAN'T GET ANYONE OVER THERE TO ANSWER HER PHONE I WILL TELL HER TO GO FIND SO-AND-SO AND SHE WILL.

THEN THEY WILL CALL ME BACK. I DON'T KNOW WHO WILL DO THAT NOW. I AM A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT THAT. BUT SHE HAS HAD TWO GREAT CAREERS WITH THE COUNTY AND WILL PUBLIX.

AND HER HUSBAND JERRY WHO IS WITH US TODAY WHO'S ALSO A PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEE, ONE OF OUR OPERATORS AND ONE OF THE SMILING FACES YOU SEE AS WELL. THEY BOT HAD A LONG, GREAT CAREER AND WE WILL MISS HER. JERRY I THINK WILL RETIRE PRETTY SOON TOO AND JOINED HER. WE WILL JUST MISS ALL THAT YOU DO. HOPE YOU REALLY ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT. YOU COME BACK AND SEE US ANYTIME YOU WANT. HE WANTS ANYTHING ELSE? COUNTY WORKER LOOKS LIKE GUYS.

[Broadband Update (Bill Ferry, Comcast)]

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TODAY WE HAVE WITH US COMCAST TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON OUR

BROADBAND. >> HELLO I AM BILL.

I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE. EXCITING NEWS FOR YOU.

YOU HAVE A PACKED AGENDA SO I WILL BE BRIEF.

I WANT TO TALK TO ABOUT THE CURRENT PROJECT.

WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A VERY LARGE BUILD IN CLAY HILL AND THE UNINCORPORATED PARTS OF THE COUNTY JUST NORTH OF KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. ABOUT 1600 PASSES OR SO.

THIS COMES BACK TO THE AWARD YOU GAVE US USING AARP FUNDS TO BUILD OUT THE UNSERVED PORTIONS OF THE COUNTY.

THERE ARE A FEW OTHERS I WILL TALK ABOUT A MINUTE.

EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A TIMELINE OF ONE YEAR AT-2 YEARS WHO COMPLETED WE ARE MOVING ALONG. IN FACT WE HOPE TO SEE SOME CUSTOMERS BEING ABLE TO BE SIGNED UP IN THE CLAY HEEL AREA AS SOON AS THE 1ST QUARTER. THAT MADE ME JANUARY.

IT IS OUR INCENTIVE TO WIRE AS MANY AS WE CANCEL WERE MOVING QUICKLY ON THAT. CONSTRUCTION IS DOING FINE.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH PERMITTING AND THE COW MANY COUNTY PERMITTING OFFICE HAS BEEN GREAT.

IT CAN BE A SLOW PROCESS BUT WE'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE WATER MAINS UNDERNEATH AND WE DON'T WANT TO HIT ANY OF THOSE.

WE ARE GOING UNDERGROUND AND THAT INVOLVES CLAY ELECTRIC SO THERE IS A DANCE THAT GOES INTO THAT.

BUT KEYSTONE HEIGHTS PART OF IT WE ARE IN THE PERMITTING PHASE BUT AS SOON AS IT IS DONE WE WILL START CONSTRUCTION THERE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MAY BE THE 2ND QUARTER, WE MAY SEE SOME PROGRESS AND MOST LIKELY SEE SOME CUSTOMERS IN THAT AREA AS WELL. THAT IS THE PROJECT RIGHT NOW.

ALSO, WE HAVE RECENTLY, TWO WEEKS AGO COMCAST APPLIED FOR A GRANT BEFORE THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF EQUAL OPPORTUNITY OFFICE OF BROADBAND TO WIRE SOME OTHER AREAS AND THAT INCLUDES THE OTHER AREA OF CLAY HILL AS WELL AS VIRGINIA VILLAGE.

THAT IS ABOUT A 5-$6 MILLION GRANT.

THEY PUT UP WELL OVER HALF OF THAT IF NOT MORE.

AND THE STATE FUNDING HAS THAT TOO.

IT WORKS REALLY WELL WITH, I WANT TO DO A SHOUT OUT WITH TROY AS WELL AS ED TUCKER AND THOSE WHO ARE INSTRUMENTAL IN SUPPORTING THAT. IT IS QUITE AN APPLICATION TO DO BUT THAT HAS BEEN FILED. A QUICK TIMELINE, WE MAY SEE SOME OF THOSE GRANTS, THE ACTUAL SERVICE AREAS COULD BE PUBLISHED IN A COUPLE OF DAYS BY THE OFFICE OF BROADBAND THAT OPENS IT UP TO A CHALLENGE. WHERE OTHER INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDERS SHOULD MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT OVERLAPPING.

I AND PRETTY CONFIDENT WE HAVE A VERY STRONG GRANT WE HAVE FILED.

I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD CHANCE AT THAT.

THE AWARDS I EXPECTED IN FEBRUARY.

AND WE CAN SEE HOW WE GO ABOUT DOING THAT.

THAT'S NOT ALL, THERE ARE TWO OTHER FUNDING CYCLES COMING OUT OF THE OFFICE. WE WILL WATCH THOSE CLOSELY ALONG WITH COUNTY STAFF AND WE WILL SEE IF THE CRITERIA WILL CHANGE. THERE ARE OTHER AREAS WE CAN LOOK AT. WE DO LOOK AT PENNY FARMS. WE ARE LOOKING TO DO THIS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?

>> I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT I'M ON THE BOARD OF PENNY FARMS AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A REPUTABLE PROVIDER.

>> I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT TOO.

>> I GOT AN E-MAIL MONTHS AGO AND I REFERRED THEM TO BILL.

>> I HAVE REACHED OUT TO THEM. UNDER THE CURRENT GRANT CYCLE IT DID NOT MAKE FINANCIAL SENSE YET BUT WE WILL SEE TO OTHERS.

SO STAY TUNED. >> WHAT IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR

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THE GRANT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT >> WE ARE LOOKING AT 1900 ADDITIONAL CUSTOMERS AND THE GRANT IS BETWEEN 5-$6 MILLION.

THAT IS WHAT WE APPLIED FOR. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU HAVE FOLLOW, THIS IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.

THE STATE THROUGH A CURVEBALL AND SAID THE GRANTS WERE ONLY ELIGIBLE IF THERE WASN'T ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE.

SO BECAUSE THE COUNTY USED AARPA MONEY ON THIS, WE COULDN'T USE COUNTY MONEY TO MATCH, SO ANYWAY THE STATE DIDN'T DO US ANY FAVORS BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN STRAIGHTEN THAT OUT WITH THE

2ND AND 3RD FUNDINGS CYCLES. >> I ADDRESS THAT WITH THE WORDING TO MAKE SURE WE USE THE FUNDING FOR THESE AREAS BUT NOT AREAS WE ARE APPLYING FOR SO SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

>> THANK YOU. >> APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

>> WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT KINDS OF MINUTES ON THE AGENDA.

>> YOU WANT TO TAKE OFF FOR. >> I CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM COUNTY COMMISSIONER, NOVEMBER 17.

AND THE FINANCE AND AUDIT AND WORKSHOP.

>> ME OF A MOTION, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ENTRY OF A MOTION IN THE SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

>> NOW WE WILL MOVE INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THE FIRST, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, I ONE CARD, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING IN GENERAL, WE HAVE ONE THAT'S RIGHT YOU CAN COME UP TO THE PODIUM, THAT IS FINE.

REVEREND PIERCE -- I'M SORRY PERNELL.

MY EYES ARE NOT THE BEST. >> HELLO EVERYONE, HOW ARE YOU DOING. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS REVEREND JAMES I AM THE PASTOR OF MOUNT ZION NINE ANION CHURCH.

I COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING.

WE'RE CELEBRATING 150 YEARS OF EXISTENCE AND GREEN COVE SPRINGS , FLORIDA. THAT IS APPROXIMATELY ONE AND A HALF YEARS LESS THAN THE CONCEPTION OF GREEN COVE SPRINGS ITSELF. WHAT WE WERE DOING IS COMMEMORATING OUR 150 YEAR CELEBRATION, WITH A MAGAZINE BOOKLET THAT WE ARE SOLICITING YOUR HELP TO PROMOTE WITHIN THE COUNTY. AT LARGE.

WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SOLICIT YOUR HELP AND PROMOTE YOUR BUSINESSES, PROMOTE ANY AFFILIATION ORGANIZATIONS YOU ARE WITH, ANYTHING THAT WOULD HELP US TO BE AWARE AS IT RELATES TO GREEN COLD SPRINGS AND CLAY COUNTY AT-LARGE.

WE DO HAVE SOME PAMPHLETS HERE FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS OR ANYONE INTERESTED. BUT JUST FROM THE HISTORICAL ARCHIVE. THE CHURCH WAS CREATED AND FOUNDED BY BOTH WHITE AND BLACK SPEAR I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT WE TEAR DOWN SOME WALLS AND BARRIERS AND SOME DIFFERENCES AS IT RELATES TO WHO WE ARE AS PEOPLE IN CLAY COUNTY AND AS A CHURCH AND GREEN COVE SPRINGS FLORIDA.

THIS IS THE INCUBATOR CHURCH FOR MANY OF THE CHURCHES HERE IN GREEN COVE SPRINGS WHERE WE WANT TO COMMEMORATE OUR 150 YEAR CELEBRATION WITH YOUR HELP AND PARTICIPATION AND INVOLVEMENT AS WE COME TOGETHER AS A COUNTY AND CITY.

ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE

OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. >> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT

[CONSENT AGENDA]

ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT THEY WANT PULLED FROM THE CONSENT

AGENDA? >> HEARING NONE I WILL TAKE A

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MOTION. >> OR MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

[11.  Progress Report on the Bonded Transportation Program (C. Campos)]

>> WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE UPDATE FOR THE BONDED TRANSPORTATION

PROGRAM. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M THE VON TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM I WILL PROVIDE A MONTHLY UPDATE.

COUNTY ROAD NUMBER ONE TO 18 FROM THIS AREA.

>> CARLOS, ERIC, CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU TURN UP HIS MICROPHONE, WE CAN'T HEAR HIM.

IT'S ALL THE WAY UP, WELL CAN YOU SPEAK UP?

>> LIKE OUR SAME PROJECT NUMBER ONE COUNTY ROAD 218, THE COUNTY ALONG WITH MICHAEL BAKER INTERNATIONAL HELD BIWEEKLY MEETINGS. WE RECEIVED 90% OF THE PLANS.

WE REVIEWED THE PLANS AND WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS A COMMON RESOLUTION. THE TEAM IS REVISING THEIR SCHEDULE TO ACCOMMODATE PERMANENT DELAYS.

FOR THIS GROUP PROJECT, PROJECTS 2-5 AND 6A, JACOBS ENGINEERING HELD THEIR BIWEEKLY MEETING. PERMITS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED FOR PROJECTS 2-5. AND REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND BEEN RECEIVED. AND THEY ARE RESPONDING TO THIS.

>> FOR PROJECT NUMBER FIVE WHICH IS COUNTY ROAD 220 WE RECEIVED THE PRICE AND CURRENTLY BEING VALIDATED.

FOR PROJECT SIX A WHICH IS COUNTY ROAD 315 THE DESIGNERS WORKING TOWARDS THE PLANS WE ARE EVALUATING ALTERNATIVE STORM WATER POND LOCATIONS. THE COUNTY AS ALSO RECEIVED THE DESIGN APPROACH. THE COUNTY CONTINUES TO WORK AND WE HELD OUR BIWEEKLY MEETINGS. NEGOTIATIONS ARE UNDERWAY.

AND THE PERMIT PROCESS IS UNDERGOING.

RUSSELL ROAD WE RECEIVED PLANS FROM GAI ON COUNTY ROAD.

WE RECEIVED PLANS AND HAVE ISSUED OUR PLANS FOR IMPLEMENTATION. ON PROJECT NUMBER FOUR, WE HELD OUR MEETING ON DECEMBER 6, WE ARE FINALIZING AN AGREEMENT AND WAITING ON THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT TO PERMIT MODIFICATION FOR BOTH PONDS ALONG THE PROJECT.

ON COUNTY ROAD TWO, THE COUNTY SUPERIOR HELD THEIR BIWEEKLY MEETINGS, PLANTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED AND COMMENTS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED. MORE PLANS WILL FOLLOW.

TODAY WE RECEIVED TWO OUT OF THE FOUR CREDITS FROM THE BANK, SUPERIOR HAS NOTIFIED US THAT THE CREDITS ARE CREATING A SCHEDULE DELAY. WE ARE WORKING WITH SUPERIOR AND OTHER DISTRICTS TO COME UP WITH A RESOLUTION.

WE CONTINUE TO MEET WITH OWNERS TO RESOLVE CONFLICTS AND FINALIZE SCHEDULES AS WELL. OVERALL WE CONTINUE TO HOLD OUR BIWEEKLY MEETING FOR EACH PROJECT.

WE WORK WITH DEVELOPERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS TO ACQUIRE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. WE REVIEWED AND APPROVED MULTIPLE INVOICES THROUGH VENDORS AND THE PROGRAM CONTINUES TO SEE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE AND COMMODITIES INCLUDING REAL ESTATE. WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET TO CONSIDER OTHER LINES OF FINANCING SUCH AS MOBILITY FEES, GRANTS AND ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES. WTI CONTINUES TO WORK ON PROJECTS SPECIFICALLY TO INCLUDE RIGHT-OF-WAY, UTILITY VERIFICATION PLAN REVIEWS, PURCHASE ORDERS AND MORE.

WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT IN THE COMING MONTHS.

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I WILL BRING MORE PROGRAMS TO THE BOARD, WITH REGARDS TO THE

PONDS. >>

>> I BELIEVE THIS CAME IN ROUGHLY AT $16 MILLION AND THE

CURRENT BUDGET IS AT 11. >> I DIDN'T HEAR YOU, THE

CURRENT BUDGET WAS WHAT? >> THE CURRENT BUDGET IS 11.

IT CAME IN AT 15.8. >> AND THESE ARE SLOWING US DOWN

BECAUSE? >> THERE WERE ( INDISCERNIBLE ) WE RESERVED WHAT WE NEEDED FOR THE ALIGNMENT HOWEVER THEY ARE

BEING RELEASED IN PORTIONS. >> OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU CARLOS. YOU SURVIVED.

TELL AND HE CANNOT GO ON VACATION AGAIN.

[12.  2023 BCC Meeting Schedule]

>> HE OWES YOU. >> OKAY, MOVING INTO NEW BUSINESS. BCC MEETING SCHEDULE.

>> BACKUP IS A NOTICE OF REGULAR MEETINGS AND THE 2ND AND 4TH TUESDAY OF EACH MONTH WITH ONLY ONE IN DECEMBER BOTH OF 2,023.

THOSE ARE AS LISTED AND READY TO BE VOTED ON.

THE SECOND THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS DISCUSS FINANCE AND AUDIT, IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A WHILE.

WE KNEW WE NEEDED TO DO AND -- A NAME CHANGE BUT WE WERE LOOKING AT HOW WE COULD STREAMLINE THIS AND POSSIBLY TAKE THESE ITEMS DIRECTLY TO THE BBC. I HAVE DISTRIBUTED A SAMPLE AGENDA OF TODAY'S AGENDA OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

BASICALLY ITEMS THAT WERE ON THE FINANCE AND AUDIT, IT WENT TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AND LISTED ON THIS BOARD AGENDA ITEMS 11-22ND PERIOD IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT, IF THE BOARD TAKES A LOOK THEY ARE MORE DETAILED. THEY ALSO ADDED A SECTION, THEY TOOK AWAY THE 5:00 P.M. TIME CERTAIN SPOT ADDED IT UNDER PLANNING AND ZONING. ALL OF THOSE ITEMS ARE CONTAINED IN THEIR. WE WOULD STILL HAVE TIME CERTAIN FOR INSTANCE ANY BIG CHANGES THAT ARE REQUIRED AND OBVIOUSLY ANYTHING TO DEAL WITH THE BUDGET AS WE PREPARE IT.

ALSO IT IS UP TO THE CHAIR, TO ADD A PARTICULAR ITEM TO MAKE IT EXACTLY AT THE TIME, MAYBE GUESTS ARE COMING OR THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE CAN HAVE THAT TOO.

I DID ALSO PASS OUT AND I HAVE OTHERS, I JUST BRIEFED YOU ALL HERE. IT WOULD STILL HAVE ITEMS SUCH AS, THE PLEDGE, SPECIAL STAFF RECOGNITION, APPROVAL OF MINUTES. I THINK AS WE TOOK A LOOK AT THIS, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THIS IS SEPARATE FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. THERE WOULD STILL BE TO PUBLIC COMMENT SECTIONS. ONE AT THE BEGINNING AND ONE AT THE END. AND CONSTITUTIONALISTS WOULD HAVE A MOMENT TO TALK. AND PUBLIC COMMENTS.

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INITIALLY AS WE START OUT THAT WOULD BE THE FINANCE BUSINESS THAT WE HAVE NOW. MINUTES, PLATS AND EASEMENT.

AGREEMENTS THAT REQUIRE BOARD APPROVAL.

BUDGET TRANSFERS. GRANT APPLICATIONS AND AWARDS.

AND AWARDS OF RFP AND ADVANCE PAYMENTS THAT MEET THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA. AND SO, ONE WOULD NOT FALL FOR THAT. IT WOULD BE A NEW ITEM OR BUSINESS. A PERCENTAGE BETWEEN 1-2 OF OUT THEY RANKED OR 3% OR THREE POINTS BETWEEN 1-3.

OUR NEW PURCHASING POLICY, IT IS A REMINDER THAT FORMAL REPRESENTATIONS BE REQUESTED BY FIVE FIRMS IN SITUATIONS WHERE THEY WARRANT. AS WE LOOK AT OUR BUFFALO WOULD CREATE, ACCESS TO A DRAFT ELECTRONICALLY FOR REVIEW.

FOR SEVEN DAYS OUT. BY CLOSE OF BUSINESS MONDAY.

AND WE WILL FINALIZE THE AGENDA AND ADJUST ACCORDINGLY IF THINGS NEED TO BE ADJUSTED IN ORDER. I THINK WITH THIS, IT IS GOING TO BE A LEARNING EXPERIENCE AS WE PROGRESS.

MAYBE OPINIONS MAY CHANGE OR BOARDS MAY CHANGE.

IT WOULD BE FLUID AND GOING IN THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD.

IT ALSO GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SCHEDULE MEETINGS WITH STAFF. SO THEY CAN GO OVER'S PARTICULAR THINGS. I ALSO SAID SHOULD WE GO IN THIS DIRECTION. THIS WOULD BE UP FOR DISCUSSION.

SO IN SUMMARY IT WOULD BE, THE FINANCE COMMITTEE WOULD MEET ON THE 1ST AND 3RD TUESDAY AND THOSE ITEMS WOULD BE ON CONSENT AND BE VISIBLE TO THE PUBLIC. I HAD THAT VISIBILITY HAVE THE BACKUP AND AGAIN AT ANY TIME, SO ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS FOR ME

>> I DIDN'T GET ANY OF THOSE COPIES.

>> I DIDN'T GET THE NEW AGENDA OR ANY OF IT.

>> IT'S OKAY, I TALKED ABOUT A. >> I HAVE THIS COPY HERE.

>> AGAIN, IT IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

I THOUGHT WE E-MAILED IT OUT SO I APOLOGIZE.

IT IS VERY SIMILAR. THIS HAS BROKEN OUT AND NOW IT'S JUST NEW BUSINESS. THERE'S MANY REASONS.

>> THERE WERE MANY REASONS WE WERE THINKING THE OTHER WAY.

>> MANY TIMES WHEN WE MEET FOR THAT, THE TWO COMMISSIONERS THOSE THAT RUN THE FINANCE AND AUDIT DECIDES WHAT GOES TO THE BOARD. AND WE CAN SAVE TIME TIME TO DO THEIR. THE STAFF STILL HAS TO BE THERE EVEN THOUGH AN ITEM IS NONCONSENT BECAUSE IT COULD BE PULLED AT ANY TIME. IT'S REALLY TRYING TO BE EFFECTIVE WITH THE GOOD USE OF TIME OUT THERE.

AND WE FELT LIKE LOOKING AT THIS AS A GOOD WAY TO GO.

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>> I'M THINKING ALSO, SOMETHING I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT BEFORE I WAS ON THE COMMISSION HOW MUCH PREPARATION GOES INTO ANY MEETING, SO IF YOU HAVE AN EXTRA MEETING WHERE YOU COULD DO IT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A. AND AS FAR AS LOOKING AT THE START TIME, THE MEETINGS WILL HAVE MORE INTO IT NOW BECAUSE WE WILL PUT SOME OF THE FINANCE ITEMS IN THERE.

>> IF POSSIBLE. WE COULD BE FLUID WITH IT AND TRY SOMETHING OUT MOST LIKELY IT WOULD PUSH IT TO THE RIGHT ON THE AND TIME OF THE BCC MEETING. BUT AGAIN, THAT IS UP FOR

DISCUSSION. >> I HAVE BEEN ON FINANCE AND AUDIT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. WHEN I WAS IN ORANGE PARK WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT. OF LESS FORMAL WAY OF INVESTIGATING HOWEVER, THE WASTE OF THE STAFF TIME IS WHAT I OBJECTED TO. LIKE TONIGHT THEY HAVE TO SIT HERE TO ANSWER THE SAME QUESTIONS.

>> WE COULD USE STAFF TIME A LITTLE BETTER WITH THIS NEW MODEL. IT'S GOING TO PUSH, I THINK IT WILL PUSH BOTH FINISH TIME TO THE RIGHT NO MATTER WHEN WE START. USES PEOPLE AND EARLIER TIMES AS

WELL. >> OR IF WE ARE LOOKING TO MAKE THIS ADJUSTMENT, IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO ME TOO BRING UP THE START TIME. IF WE START AT 4:00 P.M., SAPPING YOUR ALL-DAY ANYWAY, WE ARE STARTING AT 4:00 P.M., I DON'T OPPOSE STARTING A COUPLE OF HOURS SOONER TO MEET THOSE

INTERESTS. >> I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE CONSENT AGENDA BE MORE TRANSPARENT.

GETS OUT THERE SO THE PEOPLE WHO COME TO THE MEETINGS CAN GO TO THE -- GO THROUGH THE AGENDA. SOME ITEMS WILL BE PASSED AS A GROUP, SOME MAY BE PULLED OUT BY A COMMISSIONER BECAUSE THEY HAVE QUESTIONS. I DON'T SEE THAT ADDING TOO MUCH TIME TO THE MEETING. THERE'S MANY MORE AGENDA ITEMS WE HAVE TO DISCUSS AND VOTE ON. CERTAINLY, BAD ASPECT, I THINK WILL BE AN IMPROVEMENT OVER THE LONG HAUL.

I GUESS, I'M A LITTLE MORE CAUTIOUS, I DON'T LIKE TO SEE A LOT OF CHANGES AT ONCE. MAYBE WE COULD SEE THE NEW AGENDA GIVE IT A TRIAL RUN AND SEE WHERE THE START TIME SHOULD BE. EVERY COUNTY DOES SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THEY BREAK UP LUNCH AND THEN THEY COME BACK BECAUSE THEY HAVE THAT MUCH.

THEY DO TO REGULAR MEETING AND THEN A THIRD MEETING.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US ADOPT THIS NEW AGENDA AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THIS OUT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

IT WILL PUT MORE WORK IN THE END BASKET FOR THOSE NOT SERVING ON THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE TO TALK TO DEPARTMENT HEADS ABOUT THE CONSENT ITEMS. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US MOVE TOWARDS THAT I WANT TO HEAR THE COMMISSIONER TALK ABOUT IT AND TAKE ONE THING AT A TIME.

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>> I WOULD AGREE -- I AGREE WITH MOVING IN ORALLY OR.

I WOULD IMAGINE FOR A 4:00 P.M. START TIME PEOPLE HAD TO TAKE OFF EARLY TO GET HERE FOR A 4:0. IT'S NOT REALISTIC TO EXPECT THE PUBLIC TO COME EARLIER. THAT WOULDN'T BE WELL RECEIVED, US INCLUDED. BECAUSE SOME OF US APPEAR HAVE HAVE OTHER JOBS AND WE CHOOSE THAT.

BUT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER JOB IS A PUBLIC PART-TIME JOB AS THE PUBLIC HAS NOTED. I DO LIKE THE NEW AGENDA FOR BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS EXPECTING WHEN I JOINED TWO YEARS AGO.

ALL ABUZZ EXCEPT THE ONE COMMISSIONER SAID HERE AND DID FINANCE AND AUDIT AND YOU HAVE TO DO THAT AHEAD OF TIME PART MAYBE THIS WILL BALANCE THE WORK OUT.

I AGREE YOU CAN'T TAKE A 30 MINUTE MEETING WHICH IS TYPICALLY WHAT FINANCE AND AUDIT IS AND ADD 30 MINUTES TO THE BBC. SO IF WE PULL A BUNCH OF ITEMS THAT'S NOT A GOOD USE OF TIME EITHER.

>> I HAVE A COMMENT. I THINK -- CHANGES HARD.

WE SHOULD SEE HOW LONG IT GOES. AN EARLIER TIME, WOULD BURDEN THE PUBLIC AND THEIR ABILITY TO GET TO A MEETING.

LIKEWISE A MEETING THERE GOES UNTIL 11:00 P.M. WILL BURN THE PUBLIC AS WELL. WE WILL SEE WHAT KIND OF AN IMPACT IT HAS ON THE START TIME AND ADJUST ACCORDINGLY.

>> I WILL TAKE A MOTION. >> WE HAVE TO PUT ON THE MEETING

SCHEDULE AS WELL. >> I MOVE THAT THE COMMISSION MEETINGS BE MOVED UNDER START TIME IS 4:00 P.M.

>> REV MOTION ON THE TABLES WE HAVE A SECOND PERIOD WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSE.

>> I WANT TO CONFIRM IT IS THE MEETING SCHEDULE INCLUDED.

SANCHEZ. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND THE NEW AGENDA AND THE NEW START TIME AT 4:00 P.M.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK

[13.  Community Development Block Grant Consolidated Annual Performance and Evaluation Report (CAPER) (M. Mosley)]

REPORT. >>

>> REVENUE MAKE A WITH THE END OF THE YEAR REPORTING FOR THE PERIOD OF OCTOBER 21-2021-SEPTEMBER 30-23 TO. THIS WAS THE COUNTY'S FIRST YEAR OF HUD FUNDING FOR HOME REHABILITATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS APPEAR IN LOW AND MODERATE INCOME AREAS. WE RECEIVED A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION IN FUNDING AND ADD TOTAL EXPENSES $251,000.

BECAUSE THIS WAS OUR FIRST YEAR QUITE A BIT OF TIME BOOK SPENT IN ONE YEAR QUALIFIED APPLICANTS AND SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR PROJECTS. ANY UNUSED FUNDS FROM THE PREVIOUS ANNUAL ACTION PLAN WILL BE REPROGRAMMED IN NEXT YEAR'S ANNUAL ACTION PLAN AND THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON HOW THE FUNDS ARE SPENT.

SOME ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE PLAN WE REVIEWED 188 APPLICANTS FOR ASSISTANCE. 118 PROJECTS FOR HOME REHABILITATION WERE APPROVED. TEN OF THESE RECEIVED HOME INSPECTIONS OR THE END OF -- THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT RESURFACE THIS ROAD. AND THESE WERE IN KEYSTONE.

THE MAJORITY OF THE APPLICANTS CAME FROM MIDDLEBURG FOLLOWED BY

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THE MEDIAN INCOME OF APPROVED APPLICANTS WAS $25,674.

TOTAL BENEFIT 619 PEOPLE WE DID NOT RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS BUT THE PROGRESS WAS HEAVILY PLANNED FOR THE CURRENT ACTION PLAN OVER THE SUMMER. TONIGHT, WE ARE ASKING FOR APPROVAL SO WE CAN SUBMIT IT TO HUD BY THE DECEMBER DEADLINE.

>> WE COULD ROLL THIS INTO THE CURRENT YEAR.

>> IS THE CURRENT YEAR THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR?

>> WE WILL BEGIN PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN STARTING OCTOBER 1, 2,023. THAT WILL GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE HOW THESE FUNDS WILL BE USED.

>> JUST TO CLARIFY, WE WERE ALSO AWARDED A GRANT FOR THIS YEAR? SO THIS EXTRA MONEY WILL GO TO 23-24.

WE WON'T LOSE THE MONEY BUT WE HAVE TO DELAY EIGHT YEARS TO

EXTENDED. >> YES.

>> IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS I WILL

ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> OF MOTION TO APPROVE ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

IT CARRIES 5-0. >> ALL RIGHT, NUMBER 14.

[14.  School Concurrency Proportionate Share Mitigation Agreement (Branan Field Park)]

>> THIS WAS APPROVED LAST WEEK AT THEIR BOARD MEETING.

IT WAS FOR BRENNAN FIELD PARK IT IS ENTERED INTO WITH DR HORTON AND THE PURPOSE OF FULFILLING A LACK OF CONCURRENCY FOR I BELIEVE IT IS 42 HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AT MIDDLEBURG HEIGHTS SCHOOL. THE AGREEMENT IS FOR A PAYMENT OF A LITTLE OVER $2.1 MILLION. AS I INDICATED IS ALREADY APPROVED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD AND COMING TO YOU FOR APPROVAL.

AND THEY ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

-- DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I SEE NONE. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> I MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> A PROMOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. IT CARRIES 5-0.

[15.  Bid No. 22/23-15, Frontload Container Service for Multiple County Facilities]

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. WE ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL TO AWARD THIS BID TO FREEDOM WASTE MANAGEMENT.

THEY ARE ONE OF OUR CURRENT FRANCHISEES.

THEY WERE THE LOW BIDDER WE RECEIVED THREE BIDS ON THIS.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE BACKUP WE ARE WARDING AT THAT UNIT PRICES AND WE HAVE ROUGHLY 33 LOCATIONS LISTED IN THE BID.

WE CAN ADD AND DELETE FROM THAT AS WE HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS.

WE ASKED FOR APPROVAL TO AWARD THE BID AND THIS IS ONE THE COUNTY MANAGER CAN SIGN, THE AGREEMENT AFTER THE AWARD IS

APPROVED. >> OKAY, QUESTIONS FOR KAREN.

>> ASKED YOU THIS QUESTION I DON'T REMEMBER THE QUOTE ANSWER

IS THIS A CURRENT PROVIDER. >> ESSER.

>> THEY ARE NEW. WE HAVE NOT USE THEM FOR THIS TYPE OF SERVICE SO WE DID REACH OUT AND ASK THEM IF THEY COULD HANDLE THE VOLUME AND COULD BRING CONTAINERS IN BECAUSE OUR CURRENT CONTRACT WILL EXPIRE AND THEY ANSWERED EVERYTHING IS WE

EXPECTED. >> SO THEY ARE NOT THE CURRENT

PROVIDER? >> NO.

>> OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT REGARDING THE NEW EVALUATION SHEETS AND THE REPORTS THAT CAME OUT OF THE NEW SOFTWARE? I THOUGHT IT WAS EASIER TO READ AND UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE GOING I LIKE THE IDEA ALL OF TH% VENDORS AT THAT SAME FORMAT TO

WORK WITH. >> I APOLOGIZE I ANSWERED THAT

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>> MY CONFUSION WAS WASTE MANAGEMENT AND FREEDOM WASTE MANAGEMENT. TWO DIFFERENT COMPANIES.

>> THEY HAVE AN AGREEMENT. >> OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR KAREN? IF THERE ARE NONE I WILL

ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> GO AHEAD JIM.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE FREEDOM WASTE MANAGEMENT.

>> IS THERE A SECOND QUICKSAND WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[16.  Agreement with Miller Electric Company for Courthouse Access Security System Upgrade Project(D.Hane)]

>> GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONER STEEN HAYNE.

WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS IN AGREEMENT WE ARE ASKING FOR APPROVAL TO REPLACE THE EXISTING COURTHOUSE SECURITY SYSTEM, BOTH ACCESS CONTROL, CAMERA AND A YOU OTHER ASPECTS REPLACING -- I AM SORRY, REMOVING THE EXISTING SYSTEM AS WELL.

THAT IS AT THE HIGH-LEVEL. I AM HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY

QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? AND $1 MILLION OF THIS IS OUT OF

AARP FUNDING? >> YES.

>> AGGRESSORS CONTRIBUTION? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> WE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED MILLER AS THE PROVIDER AT THE PREVIOUS BCC MEETING. NOW WE ARE IN NEGOTIATION FOR THE ACTUAL WORK. I GUESS, DID WE GET EVERYTHING

WE WANTED? >> WE GOT A LITTLE MORE ON ONE HAND AND MAYBE NOT QUITE AS MUCH ON THE OTHER HAND.

MEANING THAT IT CERTAINLY REPLACES WHAT WE HAVE, THE AMOUNT AND THE CONTRACT IMPROVES ON WHAT WE HAVE BUT IN THE GRAND SCOPE OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, THERE IS ADDITIONAL WORK WE WANT TO GET DONE BUT WE DON'T HAVE A FINANCIAL PATH TO GET THERE TODAY. WE HAVE MADE ARRANGEMENTS THAT IF ADDITIONAL FUNDING DOES BECOME AVAILABLE WE CAN PROCURE THOSE SERVICES UNDER THE CONTRACT.

>> I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WE HAVE A NEED OVER THERE THAT WILL GO UNMET AND IS IT A $500 NEED OR A MILLION-DOLLAR NEED.

>> THE DELTA IS ABOUT $400,000 RIGHT NOW.

>> WE UP TO LOOK FOR $400,000 FROM SOMEWHERE.

>> TO COMPLETE THE NEEDS, AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL WE CAN, YES OR.

>> MACON, YOU ARE LISTENING TO THIS.

>> SHE IS A GREAT PARTNER. >> OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

>> LET ME UNDERSTAND, THE $400,000 WOULD PUT US ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CAPABILITIES THAT WE WILL HAVE?

>> THE EXISTING AGREEMENT PUTS US ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. SO IF WE THINK TODAY WE ARE AT X, WE ARE MOVING TOWARDS Y AND WE WOULD LIKE TO GET TO Z.

THE AGREEMENT TODAY, THE $1.4 MILLION TAKES US FURTHER THEN WHERE WE ARE TODAY, PUTS US ON THE SUSTAINABLE PLATFORM AND PROVIDES A NUMBER OF IMPROVEMENTS.

>> THANK YOU. >> IF WE DON'T FUND THE FULL PROJECT WILL BE PUTTING ANYONE AT RISK?

>> NO, THERE'S NO RISK. IT CERTAINLY AN IMPROVEMENT WE WOULD LIKE TO GET TO. THE SHERIFFS OFFICE HAS BEEN A WONDERFUL PARTNER IN THIS PROCESS.

I SPENT A LOT OF TIME THERE PEOPLE.

MILLER SPENT A LOT OF TIME TO THE PEOPLE.

IS DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR THE RIGHT REASON.

WE HAVE A FINANCIAL LIMITATION AT THE MOMENT.

>> OKAY. >> YOU SAID IT WAS 1,000 TIMES BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW. THAT IS A LOT MORE THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. WE HAVE A DINOSAUR OVER THERE RIGHT NOW. SO I AM SO GLAD TO SEE THIS HAPPENING. IT NEEDS TO HAVE BEEN.

WE ARE ON A TIME CRUNCH TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, BEFORE A PRICE

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CHANGE HAPPENS. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING. WHEN WE HAD OUR CONVERSATION YOU WERE MORE EXPRESSIVE ABOUT THIS NEED.

YOU ARE A LITTLE MODEST THIS EVENING.

>> THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE A CAMERA WAS ON AND I HAVE A FACE FOR RADIO. WE ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR THE RIGHT REASON. THE CAP I AM TALKING ABOUT NOW IS SOMETHING FAR BEYOND OUR ORIGINAL SCOPE OF WORK.

WE ARE NOT LOSING ANY FUNCTIONALITY, BUT IT IS OUTSIDE OF OUR SCOPE OF WORK. WE WOULD LOVE TO ACCOMMODATE IT

BUT WE ARE AT OUR LIMIT TODAY. >> ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

[17.  Memorandum of Agreement with Smart North Florida, Inc. for Smart Corridor along Wells Road - ARPA Project (T. Nagle)]

>> ITEM NUMBER 17 MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT WITH SMART NORTH FLORIDA FOR SMART CORRIDOR ALONG WELLS ROAD ARBA PROJECT.

>> SO, THIS IS PART OF THE WELLS ROAD CORRIDOR DOOR.

SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WE TALKED ABOUT DOING A SMART INITIATIVE.

THIS WILL BASICALLY PROVIDE A NETWORK ON THE CORE DOOR TO ALLOW THE REAL-TIME CRIME AND TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.

BASICALLY IT IS A PILOT PROJECT IF IT SUCCESSFUL WE CAN EXPANDED ACROSS OTHER AREAS SO WE CAN DO OTHER THINGS LIKE SMART TRASH CANS AND LIGHTING BEINGS WE CAN'T DO WITHOUT AN EXPENSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE. OWNING OUR OWN NETWORK WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT. I APOLOGIZE TO THE COMMISSION.

I THINK THE OTHERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS OFF AND ON.

IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, WE ARE ASKING FOR APPROVAL.

IT IS OUR PUP FUNDED AND I'M READY FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

>> MAYBE I MISSED IT BUT CALL BOXES ARE UNDER CONSIDERATION? THAT WOULD BE A HUGE IMPROVEMENT.

THIS IS A HOME GROWN INITIATIVE. >> WE ARE HOME GROWN.

>> TELL ME HOW IT STARTED. >> THIS IS BORNE OUT OF THE SMART CITY MOVEMENT THAT HAS CAPTURED ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. AND THE TPO WAS THE STANDARD BARRIER. AND BOTH SUCCESS AND INTERESTS FROM HOSPITALS ACROSS THE REGION AS WELL AS PUBLIC SCHOOLS ALLOWED THIS TO BE MORE THAN JUST BEING SMART.

IT INCLUDED FIRST RESPONDERS AND PARTNERS.

AND THAT LED TO THIS BEING SPUN OFF TO PARTNER WITH MUNICIPAL AND COUNTY LEVEL TO BE THEIR PARTNER TO SOLVE HAUPPAUGE -- HARDEST PROBLEMS AND ALLOW FOR THE PUBLIC SECTOR TO DO WHAT WE ARE DOING WHICH IS TRIED NEW THINGS AS THEY ARE READY TO DO

SO. >> IT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE, I THINK THIS IS EXCEPTIONAL TO HIGHLIGHT CLAY COUNTY IN THE FUTURE, WITH HIGH-TECH INITIATIVES.

I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING AND IMPROVING ON WHAT WE ARE DOING.

I AM ALL FOR THIS. >> OTHER QUESTIONS FOR TROY OR

CLAYTON? >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

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>> I'VE MOVE APPROVAL OF THE AGREEMENT.

>> OUR SECOND. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0.

[24.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Public hearing on adoption of the Clay County Comprehensive Impact Fee Ordinance for Government, Jails, and Constitutional Facilities; Fire and Rescue Facilities; Law Enforcement Facilities; Parks and Recreation Facilities; and Library and Cultural Facilities]

THINK YOU. >> SEEING THAT IT IS 5:01 P.M. I WILL MOVE TO THE TIME CERTAIN SPIRIT WE ARE AT ITEM 24.

THIS IS ABOUT PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ADOPTION OF THE CLAY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE IMPACT THE ORDINANCE OF GOVERNMENTS, JAILS AND CONSTITUTIONAL FACILITIES AND FIRE AND RESCUE FACILITIES, LAW ENFORCEMENT FACILITIES, PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES I LIBRARY AND CULTURAL FACILITIES

CONTINUED FROM OCTOBER 25, 2022. >> I WILL KICK IT OFF FOR YOU.

>> SO THIS IS A CONTINUATION FROM THE PREVIOUS BOARD MEETING.

SINCE THAT POINT WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH DEVELOPERS AND REPRESENTATIVES AS WELL AS THE WORKSHOP.

SO I THINK SO WE HAVE A BETTER PLAN AT CARLOS IS HERE TO HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS. WE WILL NOT GO THROUGH WHAT IS AN IMPACT FEE PRESENTATION, BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT AND TIME THIS IS WHAT HAS CHANGED IN THE PLAN.

YOU WILL HAVE TO LOOK TO THE VISITS LEFT AND RIGHT BECAUSE

THE SCREENS ARE NOT WORKING. >> GOOD EVENING AND HAVE ME BE HERE WITH YOU. I AM GOING TO RUN THROUGH AN OVERVIEW OF THE CHANGES. COMPARED TO THE PRIOR OCTOBER 19 STUDY THAT WAS LAST PRESENTED. AND THEN I WILL JUMP RIGHT INTO IT. SO THE FIRST SLIDE SUMMARIZES THE PROGRAM, THE FIRST BIG COMMON THAT WE GOT WAS THE STAKEHOLDERS FELT THE EMPLOYMENT PROJECTION WAS TO THE PROGRAM SHOWS WHY YOUR COMMISSION ADOPTED AND AMENDED.

THEY UPDATED THE CREDIT CALCULATIONS THIS IS UPDATED BASED ON THE LATEST INFORMATION FROM YOUR CIP.

THE BIG CHANGE HERE IS THAT WE CHANGE FROM A SERVICE POPULATION APPROACH TO THIS. AND SO, THIS WAS WHERE WE WAITED FOR WORKERS RELATIVE TO A RESIDENT AND LET THE CALCULATIONS WORK OUT FROM THERE.

WHAT THIS DOES IT ACCOUNTS FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTS SO RESIDENTS THAT DO NOT WORK, RESIDENTS AND SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN AND VISITORS AS WELL. WE ALSO DO A DEEPER DIVE INTO A DEMAND FOR FACILITIES FOR NONRESIDENT SPIRIT AGAIN, IT IS A MORE DETAILED APPROACH SPIRIT STAKEHOLDERS WERE MORE COMFORTABLE SO WE WERE HAPPY TO ADJUST TO USE THAT ANALYSIS.

OTHER GLOBAL CHANGES, WE UPDATED THE LATEST ASSET VALUES TO MATCH COUNTY ASSETS TO MATCH DATA FROM THE PROPERTY ASSESSOR.

WHEN WE WERE ESTIMATING THE BUILDING BECAUSE WE USE THE LATEST PROPERTY SCHEDULE TO IDENTIFY THE REPLACEMENT VALUE OF EVERYTHING WE INCLUDED IN THE STUDY.

FOR THE FIRE AND RESCUE FEE. THE STAKEHOLDERS REQUESTED MORE INFORMATION ON THE CAPITAL FACILITIES PLAN.

WE DID THAT WITH THE AID OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE FIRE

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WE STARTED BY IDENTIFYING NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IT. AS WE GOT INTO THE ANALYSIS THROUGH CONVERSATIONS WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT IT BECAME APPARENT NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS ARE FUNDED LOCALLY AND MAINTAINED AND OWNED BY HOA'S.

THE FIRST THING WE DID, WE PULLED THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK COMPONENT BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE FUNDED SEPARATELY AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO OVERLAP. THE SECOND THING WE DID, WE CONSTRAINED THE FEES TO FUND PARKS AT THE LEVEL YOU SEE.

THE TABLE YOU SEE THERE ARE THE STANDARDS AND NEW DEVELOPMENT WILL HAPPEN IF THIS FUNDS NEW FACILITIES AT THE COMPREHENSIVE STANDARD. THAT IS GREAT, BUT IN SOME CASES THE STANDARDS ARE HIGHER THAN YOUR EXISTING STANDARDS.

ANOTHER COMMENT WE GOT, THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE BENEFIT FROM PLAYING THE -- PAYING THE FEE WOULD BE THIS.

IT WAS A COUNTYWIDE FEE. EVERYONE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA WOULD PAY THE FEE, AND THIS ITERATION WE IMPLEMENTED THE POPULATION BECAUSE THE RESIDENTIAL POPULATION DEMANDS THE NEED FOR PARKS. THAT MEANS, PER DISTRICT WE CAN IDENTIFY IF THIS IS MEETING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STANDARDS.

IF NOT THAT DEFICIENCY NEEDS TO BE FUNDED WITH NON- IMPACT FEE FUNDING IN ORDER TO NOT OVERCHARGE NEW DEVELOPMENT.

WE IDENTIFIED THE EFFICIENCIES THAT WAY PEOPLE CAN GET WHAT THEY PAY FOR AND IT IS ALL ACCOUNTED FOR.

ON THE LAST NOTE THERE, AND TOTAL IT IS 18 AND HALF MILLION.

THIS DRAFT ALSO INCLUDES THE REGIONAL PARK FEE.

THIS IS ABOVE AND BEYOND. WE USE THIS FOR THIS IS CALCULATED ON A PLANNED APPROACH SO THEY WILL PAY A SHARE BUT IT WILL NOT FULLY FUND THE PARK. THE COUNTY NEEDS TO PAY FOR FUNDING SOURCES OTHER THAN IMPACT FEES.

FOR LIBRARY AND CULTURAL FACILITIES, NOT MUCH AS CHANGED.

USING THE LATEST DATA AND THE BUILDING REPLACEMENT COST.

WE ALSO INCLUDED COLLECTIONS IN THAT EXISTING INVENTORIES.

SO, HOW DOES THIS LOOK. THIS IS THE MAXIMIZE FEE SCHEDULE. IN THE PRIOR DRAFT, A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME WAS $6,777. IN THIS REVISION THE TOTAL IS

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ALSO THERE WERE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS HERE AND CHANGES.

>> I MENTIONED DEFICIENCIES IN FEW TIMES.

FOR SEVERAL OF THE FEE CATEGORIES, THE ASSUMPTION OR WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN ORDER TO CHARGE FEES AT THE MAXIMUM LEVEL , THE COUNTY NEEDS TO FUND THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT SHARE OF THE HIGHER LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT EXISTS.

THE COUNTY NEEDS TO FUND THAT WITH SOURCES OTHER THAN THE IMPACT FEES. THIS EXPERIENCE THROUGH ONGOING SOURCES. WE MET THAT CREDIT OUT OF THE IMPACT FEE CALCULATION. THIS IS THE NEW DEVELOPMENT FUNDING 120 MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF THE IMPROVEMENTS IDENTIFIED. SO, TO GIVE CONTACTS, WE HAVE UPDATED THE CERTAIN COUNTIES INCLUDING YOURS HAVE DIFFERENT SOUNDS FOR CERTAIN FEES THE HIGH AND LOW AND THE BOOKEND OF FEES FOR CLAY COUNTY IN PARTICULAR, THE FEES ARE UNIFORM THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. IT IS YOUR EXISTING MOBILITY FEE THAT VARIES BY ZONE. THAT IS DRIVING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE HIGH AND LOW. WE ALSO HAD AN EXAMPLE OF THE FUNCTIONAL APPROACH SPIRIT SO WE ADDED IN THAT INFORMATION TO SHOW HOW THE FEES COMPARE. WE ALSO ADDED IN MORE RECENT DATA. I HAVE ONE NOTE YOU CAN SEE THE FOOTNOTE THERE. THE IMPACT FEES THEY INCREASE SLIGHTLY EVERY YEAR. THE STORY HERE WOULD SAY, THE FULL BASKET OF FEES FALL WITHIN THE RANGE OF THE JURISDICTION DEPENDING ON THE MOBILITY FEE. ALL OF THE SAME NOTES APPLY THAT I JUST MENTIONED FOR THE SINGLE-FAMILY FEE.

THE DIFFERENCE, THEY ARE NOT CHARGED LIBRARY AND PARK FEES.

THE OTHER COUNTIES DON'T CHARGE THOSE.

AND I THINK THE STORY IS ROUGHLY THE SAME.

IF YOU ARE IN A HIGH MOBILITY FEE ZONE YOU WOULD BE IN THE UPPER END. BELOW ARE IN WOULD BE NEAR THE BOTTOM. SAME STORY FOR OFFICE.

WE COMPILED THE COMPARISON HERE. ALL OF THE COMMENTS I MADE PRIOR COMPARE HERE. AND THE SAME STORY FOR INDUSTRIAL. WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER

ANY QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR

FOR CARLOS? >> I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I HAVE A NUMBER OF CARDS HERE TO SPEAK ON IT. SO, BEFORE I START.

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SPAK ON? >> WE WILL GET TO YOU IN A SECOND. ALL RIGHT, SO FIRST UP IS DANIEL

VALLEN COURT. >> HELLO EVERYONE.

FIRST OF OTHER ME SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION I KNOW THIS IS A LOT OF WORK. ALMOST A VOLUNTEER POSITION SO WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. I THINK THE STUDY IS GETTING BETTER. IT STILL NEEDS A LOT OF WORK.

WE HAVE IMPACT FEES, PAGE SEVEN SAYS $402 MILLION IN SPENDING.

YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER $250 MILLION. MY CONCERN IS WE ARE SETTING UP THE CITIZENS FOR A TAX INCREASE DOWN THE ROAD.

I THINK WE NEED TO BE TRANSPARENT AND SAY WHEN WE START SPENDING THIS MONEY, WE HAVE TO FUND IT WITH OTHER MONEY. IF WE DON'T HAVE IT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET IT SOMEWHERE.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOUSING. THIS STUFF DOES AFFECT REAL PEOPLE, NOT JUST CONSTRUCTION OWNER PEOPLE.

OCTOBER 2021 THERE WERE 161 PERMITS.

THIS OCTOBER THERE WAS 105. THAT IS 35% DOWN.

WHEN YOU TAX SOMETHING, WHICH IS WHAT AN IMPACT FEE IS YOU WILL HAVE LESS OF A. MORTGAGE RATES ARE 7%.

THIS IS JUST MORE PRESSURE ON A MARKET TRENDING DOWNWARD.

WE HAVE HEARD FROM EVERYONE, THEY HAVE REAL NEEDS AND REAL PROBLEMS NOW. LONG TERM IMPACT FEES YOU CAN EVEN USE THAT MONEY. WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HELP THEM NOW. I THINK, IN MY OPINION WE SHOULD HAVE A PLAN TO FIX THE EXISTING PROBLEMS FIRST.

SETTING THIS UP, I DON'T THINK THIS WILL SOLVE PROBLEMS QUICKLY ENOUGH AND THEY HAVE REAL ISSUES.

LASTLY, I DON'T WANT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE, BUT THIS DID GET OFF TO A ROUGH START. I THINK IT DOES NEED TO BE TALKED ABOUT. THE TRYING TO PASSÉ MASSIVE TAX INCREASE WITHOUT ANYONE KNOWING THIS.

THIS IS HOW I FEEL. THE STUDY WAS PRESENTED ON OCTOBER 11 AND ADDED TO THE AGENDA ON THE 19TH.

IT WAS TO BE VOTED ON ON THE 25TH.

WASN'T EVEN THE FIRST ITEM. NEVER REACHED OUT TO ANY STAKEHOLDER PRIOR TO THIS. I APPRECIATE YOU NOT BOOTING ON THIS. FRANKLY I HAVEN'T HAD MUCH FAITH IN THIS PROCESS IS THE INITIAL -- SINCE THE INITIAL EFFORT TO HIDE IT. AND I THINK WE JUST NEED TO

START OVER. >> ALL RIGHT NEXT IS GEORGE

EGAN. >> GOOD AFTERNOON GEORGE EGAN, FIRST OF ALL HATS OFF TO TROY AND HIS TEAM, THEY MET WITH US TWICE, I'M PRETTY SURE THEY INTEGRATED ALL OF OUR OBSERVATIONS INTO THE DOCUMENT. I REALLY WANT TO THANK THE TEAM AND AS A SIDE NOTE, MY WIFE, LAST THURSDAY NIGHTS AT YOUR PHONE RANG AT 9:00 P.M. AND IT WAS A GUY NAMED CHARLIE.

THANK YOU SARAH FOR HELPING US OUT.

YOU HAVE HEARD ME SAY I SUPPORT THIS.

I THINK IT IS PART OF THE COUNTY BECAUSE STRATEGIC PLAN AND HOW WE WILL CREATE A VISION GOING FORWARD.

THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT. IT IS A VERY COMPLICATED

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IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, KEEP ASKING BUT I ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO BE THOUGHTFUL IN THEIR DELIBERATIONS.

>> >> THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TOO SPEAK WITH THE COMMISSION. THIS CANNOT BE FUNDED BY IMPACT FEES. WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT.

WE DISCUSSED THIS WORKING CAPITAL FACILITIES ARE EXTRACTED. THIS WILL BE DISCUSSED IN THE STUDY. INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS ARE NOT INCLUDED SO THE NUMBERS OVER 5,000 PEOPLE IT IS WE THANK YOU

FOR REVIEWING THE STUDY. >> OKAY SO THAN FRAZIER.

>> GOOD EVENING SUSAN FRAZIER I LIVE IN JACKSONVILLE.

I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE REINHOLD CORPORATION.

WE WORKED REALLY HARD WITH STAFF AND THE ONLY PERSON TO WORK LONGER HOURS WILL DESTROY. WE ARE TRYING TO CATCH UP WITH EACH OTHER WITH A QUESTION. I DID NOT HEAR IT ANSWERED IN THE PRESENTATION SO I WANT TO SEE IF I CAN GET THAT ANSWERED.

THE CONSULTANTS READ YOUR COMMUNITY PARK STANDARD WILL BE YOUR MY QUESTION TO JOY WAS THEIRS AN EXISTING STANDARD AND THERE IS A ANOTHER STANDARD. SOME NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT STANDARD YOU WILL APPLY TO COMMUNITY PARK.

WHEN WE MET WITH STAFF THERE WAS' TWO DIFFERENT ONES AND I WANT TO ASK THAT YOU LOOK AT THE STUDY AND MAKE THAT CLEAR.

BUT WE WANT TO THANK THE STAFF. WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF DETAILS AND WE THINK THEY DID A GREAT JOB ACCOMMODATING WENT OUR

CONCERNS WERE. >> ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON BOTH?

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>> AND THAT IS FINE, NO WORRIES. >> GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

3168 I WANTED CONSTRUCTION GROUP.

I WANT TO START WITH THANKING THE STAFF.

TROY AND COURTNEY WORKED HARD. I AM SHOCKED AT HOW MUCH WORK GOT DOWN -- GOT DONE. WE MET WITH THEM MULTIPLE TIMES.

WE HAD A LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS THAT WERE CONCERNS.

SOMEWHERE SUBSTANTIAL. THEY HAVE ADDRESSED 99% OF THOSE CONCERNS. I RECEIVED IT FRIDAY MORNING.

GOING THROUGH IT, AND OF COURSE TODAY CONFIRMED THAT THEY DID ADDRESS THE LION SHARE OF WHAT WE ASKED FOR.

WE KNOW THAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THEY NEED CRITICAL SERVICES. IMPACT FEES PLAY A ROLE.

OF ALWAYS SAID AS LONG AS THE STUDY IS DONE PROPERLY AND CONFORMS I WOULD SUPPORT IT. EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT A FAN OF IMPACT FEES, AS LONG AS IT IS DONE APPROPRIATELY WE WOULD SUPPORT WHAT THE COUNTY NEEDS TO FUNCTION.

FROM THE ORIGINAL STUDY WHICH WAS 49 PAGES THE NEW ONE WAS 100 PAGES AND ADDED MORE DETAIL. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS, $280 MILLION. THAT HAS NOT BEEN SPELLED OUT ON THE COUNTY WILL DO THAT PORTION. I THINK THE IMPACT FEES WERE $120 MILLION. THE $280 MILLION IS UNKNOWN.

ALSO THE OPERATING COSTS, THAT HAS NOT BEEN SPELLED OUT.

I WOULD JUST ASK THE COMMISSIONERS REVIEW THOSE ITEMS. LASTLY I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE DOWNTURN. LIKE MR. VALLEN COURT MY COMPANY IS HERE, MY EMPLOYEES ARE HERE MY FAMILY IS HERE.

THIS HITS HOME WITH ME ALONG WITH A LOT OF OTHER BUILDERS.

THE FACT WE ARE GOING INTO A DOWNTURN, THE RATES ARE HIGHER, INFLATION IS HIGHER, THERE IS A CONCERN OVER WHAT THE MARKET CAN'T SUSTAIN VERSUS KILLING THEIR MARKET WHICH IS A BALANCE.

BUT WITH THAT, I WOULD ASK THAT THE COMMISSION CONSIDER A ROLLOUT OF THE FEES. I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THE FEES BUT I ASKED THAT THERE IS A ROLLOUT.

THERE IS A 90 DAY FEE. THESE AREN'T NEW PERMITS BUT I WOULD ASK SIX NEW FEES, THE SUBSTANTIAL ACT TO AFFORDABILITY IS BY A HOT BUTTON. IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IF WE COULD STRETCH THOSE OUT INSTEAD OF HITTING OUR COMMUNITY WITH SIX SUBSTANTIAL FEES. I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSIONERS THAT THE STAFF. VERY PROUD TO BE AND THIS

COUNTY. >> DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO

SPEAK. >> THIS IS A LITTLE OF MY WILL HOUSE. I'M A NATIVE.

A LOT OF YOU KNOW ME. I GREW UP IN MIDDLEBURG I LIVE IN CRINKLED NOW. I HAVE TWO BUSINESSES HERE.

AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER I HAVE A BARBECUE GRILL AND A RETAIL STORE. I WANT TO SEE THE GROWTH.

I SPENT A LOT OF MONEY TO OPEN THE RETAIL STORE HERE.

ABOUT SMALL CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS.

WE ARE BEING HIT EVERY WAY. WE HAVE HAD TO PAY EMPLOYEES MORE. THE UTILITIES ARE A.

WE ARE BEING HAMMERED. WITH THOSE THINGS, I KNOW WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH COSTS AND WAYS TO PAY FOR THINGS BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE A CONSIDERATION OF HOW.

I SEE THE IMPACT FEES, I HAVE BEEN HERE ALL OF MY LIFE.

THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE FEES THEY HAVE IMPACTED THE ROAD FOR 25 YEARS AND THIS AFFECTS HOUSING AND PRICES, WE ARE SEEN INFLATION. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS.

THIS CONCERNS ME AS A NATIVE. I EMPLOYED 13 PEOPLE.

I HAVE 13 SAGS TITLE TO YOUR. OF THREE PERSONAL AND TENT WORK TRUCKS I PAY ALL OF THE FEES. JUST CONTINUING TO BE MORE AND

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I DO FIREPLACES. WHEN WE ADD $10,000 TO THE PRICE OF A HOUSE THE FIREPLACE IS THE FIRST THING PEOPLE PULL OUT.

THEY START TAKING THINGS OUT OF THEIR HOUSE.

I JUST WANT TO GIVE MY 2 CENTS. I'M VERY INVOLVED WITH THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION WE DO A LOT OF THINGS TO GET BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU MY THOUGHTS AND HOPEFULLY YOU WILL TAKE BEINGS INTO CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. >> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> MY NAME IS MELANIE RANDALL.

LIKE THIS GENTLEMAN JUST SAID, I'VE BEEN A LONG TERM RESIDENT I GRADUATED FROM ORANGE PARK HIGH SCHOOL MANY MOONS AGO.

I DON'T REPRESENT A BUILDER OR A TRADE.

I SEE MYSELF AS REPRESENTING THE SMALL INDIVIDUAL PERSON WHO WILL BE IMPACTED BY THIS. I'M SURE YOU KNOW THIS BUT ACCORDING TO THE CENSUS BUREAU THE MEDIAN INCOME IS $32,871.

PER MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS $68,650 PER YEAR.

THIS WILL HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED HARD, TO BUY A HOUSE. THESE FEES WILL BE PASSED ALONG TO THE END USER FOR CERTAIN. I ASK THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER, I KNOW THERE ARE SERVICES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY BUT I ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THE THINGS YOU HAVE HEARD AND CONSIDER A ROLLOUT OVER TIME. PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO BECOME HOMEOWNERS ARE NOT HEAVILY IMPACTED RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE.

IT IS A ROLLOUT OF SOME SORT AND YOU WOULD TAKE THE INDIVIDUAL

INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL. >> COULD YOU, I KNOW THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER DID NOT SAY HIS NAME AND'S OR ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT?

ANYONE FROM THE OVERFLOW ROOM? >> THE OVERFLOW ROOM IS EMPTY.

ALL RIGHT. SO NO FURTHER COMMENT I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR QUESTIONS, COMMENTS AND DO WE WANT CARLOS TO ADDRESS

SUSAN'S QUESTION? >> THERE WAS ACTUALLY A GREAT QUESTION. THE REASON WHY WE SHOW THE EXISTING STANDARD AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE COMMUNITY PARK SINCE WE NEED TO IDENTIFY THE EXISTING DEFICIENCIES THAT CANNOT BE FUNDED.

THIS IS WHEN YOU ARE CHARGING AN IMPACT FEE AT A HIGHER STANDARD.

WE COMPARED THIS TO WHERE THEY NEEDED TO BE.

AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE STANDARDS WE CAN QUANTIFY AND THAT IS DRIVING WHAT NEEDS TO BE.

THIS WILL MONITOR YOUR PROGRESS. >> CAN I ASKED ONE QUESTION FOR THE RECORD, WE ARE GOING BASED ON THE COMP PLAN STANDARD AND THAT IS WHAT WE WILL BE IMPLEMENTING?

>> YES, THE COUNTY WILL MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE.

>> DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

>> CAN YOU ADDRESS THE QUESTION WE KEEP GETTING ON OUR WE GET TO THE 250 AND HOW DO WE SPEND IT FOR ACCENT I THINK THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ANSWERS. THE FIRST THING THIS IS A TWO-YEAR PLAN. THIS IS $11 MILLION PER YEAR YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH. AS YOU GET NEW PEOPLE -- EXCUSE ME. AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND MORE PEOPLE COME INTO THE COUNTY POPULATION AND WORKERS, AND WITH THOSE COMES AN INCREASE IN SALES TAX.

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I THINK THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

>> RIGHT NOW, WE ARE AT A CERTAIN STANDARD, AS WE INCREASE THE POPULATION NUMBER. SO,.

>> THE SECOND QUESTION WAS MORE OPERATING RELATED.

THAT WOULD BE ANSWERED WITH CONSIDERING TODAY, THE PRICE OF STUFF GOES UP. THIS IS SOMEWHAT IN CONCERT WITH EACH OTHER. HOMES COME IN, THE AVERAGE PRICE YOU MULTIPLY THIS AND YOU WILL COME WITH A MILLAGE GENERATED FROM THAT. AND YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE ADDITIVE. NEXT YEAR I CAN'T THAT IS MORE THAN ENOUGH TO IF WE STAY ON OUR CURRENT PACE, STAFF ANALYSIS IS THERE TO SUPPORT IT. I THINK THAT ANSWERS BOTH

QUESTIONS. >> CAN WE DISCUSS THE PUBLIC QUESTION OR DEVELOPMENT PIECE. HOW DO WE AVOID DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WITH ALL OF THESE FEES.

DO WE ALSO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE, I AM CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WE ARE INVITING BACK TO HELP OFFSET THESE COSTS. IT SEEMS WE NEED TO WIDEN THE BASE MAYBE THAT WILL HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THIS.

>> I DON'T THINK I WOULD BE THE ONE TO ANSWER.

>> THIS WILL BE A HUGE GAME CHANGER WITH SALES TAX.

I DON'T THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT.

>> >> WE WILL HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ANSWERED LATER. I DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE YOUR TIME.

I FEEL LIKE, WE ARE ONLY SEEN ONE SIDE HERE.

AND THE WHOLE REASON WE DID START THIS TALK BACK IN MARCH, AND I TAKE OFFENSE TO SOMEONE SAYING WE ARE HIDING IT.

I'M DEFINITELY NOT FOR THAT. I TAKE THIS JOB SERIOUSLY.

I TRY TO KEEP MY EMOTIONS OUT OF THIS.

BUT I HIDING IT HAS NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE HERE.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN MARCH. WE BROUGHT THIS UP.

>> ACTUALLY WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN DECEMBER.

>> IT WAS IN THE NEWS BACK THEN. DEFINITELY, IT HAS NOT BEEN HIDDEN. BUT I THINK, I WOULD LIKE -- I KNOW -- I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE FIRE CHIEF.

WE NEED TO HERE AGAIN WHY WE CAME TO THIS.

I HAVE COMMUNITY THAT I LIVE IN AND I HAVE TO KEEP GOING BACK TO THAT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IF WE WERE TO HAVE FIRE, I DON'T KNOW IF OUR HOUSES WOULD BE STANDING UP.

I DON'T HAVE A FIRE STATION. I DON'T HAVE A TRUCK, AND WE

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BUT DON'T TELL ME THIS IS NOT A NEED.

PLEASE, FIRE CHIEF IF YOU COULD COME UP AND TELL US WHAT YOU'RE THINKING AND WHY YOU FEEL WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING BEFORE IT'S

TOO LATE. >> I THINK MAYBE WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WOKE WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE WORKSHOP.

FROM THE PERIOD OF 2015 UNTIL, I AM PROJECTING THE RESULTS IN 2022 BECAUSE WE ARE A A FEW DAYS AWAY.

WE HAVE SEEN A 40% GROWTH RATE AND CALLS FOR SERVICE.

I THINK A LOT OF THAT REFLECTS US COMING OUT OF THE RECESSION AND THE DEVELOPMENT YOU SEE TAKING PLACE.

CLEARLY, THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE NEW HOME DEVELOPMENT IS TAKING PLACE THERE. BUT WE HAVE SEEN IN OTHER AREAS, MIDDLEBURG, THE DIFFERENT AREAS. WE HAVE ALSO SEEN IT IN EXISTING LOCATIONS. WITH THAT CALL VOLUME INCREASING AS ONE OF THE PROGRESSIONS TROY LOOKED AT, THE BOARD WILL CONSIDER THAT AS WELL AS WE HAVE WE HAVE SEEN WE HAVE MULTI FAMILY HOMES. BUT THAT IS CHANGING AND INCREASING DENSITY. WE TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AND WHAT YOU PROJECT. THAT IS A DIFFICULT TASK.

I DID GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE 2006 MASTER PLAN THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DID IN RELATION TO CALL VOLUME AND IT IS CLOSE TO POPULATION AND UNDERESTIMATED WERE CALLED VOLUME WAS FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT DIDN'T TAKE PLACE.

SO I THINK THE WAY YOU ARE FORECASTING THE MODEL LOOKING FORWARD IS TO SAY, IF NO DEVELOPMENT TAKES PLACE, NO IMPACT FEES COLLECTED AND HENCE NO NEED FOR THE NEW FACILITIES.

BUT IF THE DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES, I'M NOT AN ECONOMIST AND I WON'T PROJECT WHERE THE ECONOMY WILL GO, BUT THE TRUTH IS CLAY COUNTY IS VERY LAND RICH AND WHERE THE LAND IS IS WHERE YOU WILL SEE THE DEVELOPMENT COMING IN.

THAT IS WHERE YOU SEE THE PROJECTIONS FOR GOVERNORS CREEK AND THE THINGS YOU SEE WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT MOVES FURTHER SOUTH.

SO, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN TELLING THE PEOPLE IS, I'M A FAN OF DEVELOPMENT. I THINK IT IS GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY BUT RIGHT NOW I DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO INCREASE UNLESS SOMETHING CHANGES. THAT IS WHY TROY HAS PRESENTED SOMETHING THAT GIVES YOU AN EFFECT TO LOOK AT YOUR IMPACT FEES DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

AS FAR AS YOUR CALL RESPONSE TIME.

A MEDICAL EMERGENCY IN A CERTAIN TIME, WE KNOW IF SOMEONE IS IN ARREST IF WE DON'T HAVE INTERVENTION THEY COULD GO INTO DEATH UNLESS CPR IS STARTED. LAST WEEK KID CPR STARTED.

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WE TRY TO ASSEMBLE THE FIRE RESPONSES.

YOU HAVE 12 STATIONS COVERING THESE SQUARE MILES.

WE PARTNER WITH THE TOWN OF ORANGE PARK.

IN THE URBAN AREAS, WE DO A LITTLE BETTER.

AND I HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMISSIONER AND SHE SAID WE NEED THAT PARTNERSHIP WE HAD WITH JACKSONVILLE WHERE WE GO ACROSS BOUNDARY LINES TO ENSURE WE CAN SERVICE IT.

BUT I THINK WHAT WE HAVE SEEN, N THE 90TH PERCENTILE.

IF SOMETHING DOESN'T CHANGE AND WE CONTINUE TO GROW, THAT WILL MORPH INTO 9-10 MINUTES AND THOSE ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE

OUTCOMES. >> THAT'S NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH EMPLOYEES, WE DON'T HAVE ANY FACILITIES TO PUT

ANYMORE, CORRECT? >> THIS IS WHERE WE CAN ADD EMPLOYEES OR SERVICE. THAT IS NOT SOMETHING WE CAN DO, THAT IS WHAT THE CIP PLAN ADDRESSES THE IMPROVEMENT ON SITE. THIS IS DOWN THE ROAD TO THE OLD HELP DEPARTMENT LOCATION AND THE RELOCATION OF FIRE STATION 22.

THAT SHOWS WHERE WE HAVE BEEN AND WHERE WE NEED THE INCREASED CAPACITIES MOVING FROM STATIONS THAT WERE UPGRADED TO HANDLE CAREER SERVICE. WITH STATIONS THAT CAN PUT IN ADDITIONAL APPARATUS. ONE OF THE DEMANDS WE HAVE SEEN IS NOT ONLY THE ONE CALL TAKING PLACE BUT MULTIPLE CALLS.

WE GET TO THE FIRST ONE BUT WE WILL BE HARD-PRESSED TO COME TO THE SECOND ONE. WE HAD A DIFFICULT TIME ADDRESSING THE SECOND OR THIRD CALL.

THAT REALLY IMPACTS THE RESPONSE TIME SPIRIT.

>> THANK YOU. >> DID YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THE

SHERIFF? >> SORRY CHIEF.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, AS FAR AS IS DEALING WITH DEFICIENCIES NOW, AS WE SPEAK WE HAVE THINGS HAPPENING TO ADDRESS THE

DEFICIENCIES. >> THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT THE THIRD LEG OF THE SCHOOL WILL ALLOW CRITICAL FACILITIES TO BE SUPPORTED AS WE MOVE INTO AREAS WHERE THERE ARE NO STATIONS.

WE HAVE THE WILLOW SPRINGS, AND THE 315 STATION LOCATION.

AND WE HAVE TO BE DEVELOPING AS WE COME IN.

THIS IS FORECASTING A DELAY. AT SOME POINT YOU WILL HAVE TO PLAY STATIONS INTO THOSE AREAS. ONE OF MY REAL KEYS IS, I SEEN IT YOU THEN CAN BUILD THE FACILITIES AFTER THE FACT, WHEN THE NEW HOMES GO IN THOSE SERVICES ARE NOT THERE FOR THOSE

PEOPLE. >> I WANTED TO HEAR WHY WE BEGAN LOOKING AT IMPACT FEES. CAN YOU ADDRESS WHY YOU THINK IT IS SUPPORTED, YOUR RESPONSE RATES AND WHAT YOU THINK IS

IMPORTANT TO THIS. >> AS THE CHIEF SAID WE, 644 MILES. WE DO HAVE JURISDICTION OVER MOST OF THE AREA. WE ASSIST THEM AS NEEDED.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE 1.9 DEPUTIES PER 1,000.

THE STATE AVERAGE IS 1.69. WE ARE ALREADY TAPPED THE DEPUTY BEHIND THE AVERAGE. WE HANDLED 250,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE PER YEAR. AND AS CHIEF MENTIONED, WE HAVE

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AS PEOPLE CONTINUED TO MOVE THEN AS MORE TRAFFIC COMES IN AND MORE PEOPLE DRIVE THROUGH THE COUNTY OUR CALL VOLUME WILL INCREASE. OUR CRIME NUMBERS HAVE BOTTOMED OUT BUT BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE MOVING IN I PERCEIVED THE CRIME RATES EVEN UP -- EASY KNOW.

WE ARE SAY BUT WHEN YOU START ADDING MORE PEOPLE YOU'RE GOING TO ADD MORE CRIME. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER ISSUES. THE FIRST IS WE DO OCCUPY 19 DIFFERENT BUILDINGS WHERE WE HAVE PEOPLE AND STUFF.

NINETEEN DIFFERENT BUILDINGS WHERE WE ARE PAYING UTILITIES, INSURANCE, MAINTENANCE. I HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE DROP THE MAIL OFF AT A LOT OF THE BUILDINGS.

SEVERAL ARE BORROWED. SO AS SOON AS THAT PERSON FINDS SOMEONE TO BUY THEIR BUILDING OR NEW PURPOSE WILL BE OUT.

THERE IS A LOT OF INEFFICIENCY THAT OCCURS WHEN YOU HAVE DETECTIVES IN A TRAILER. PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING.

AND OLD OFFICE MEDICAL BUILDING. MYSELF AND MANY OF THE STAFF.

PART OF THE REASON I WAS LATE HERE I HAD TO BE AT A BUILDING 20 MINUTES AWAY. WE DO HAVE A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT COST AND EFFICIENCY, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IN ADDITION OUR JAIL WHICH WAS BUILT IN 1972 -- I THINK WAS 1972, IT HAS BEEN AT CAPACITY FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW.

WE DID GET SOME ARPA MONEY TO REPURPOSE SOME SPACE IN THE CURRENT FOOTPRINT. BUT WE HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO GO.

BUT I SEE THAT BASED UPON THE GROWTH OF THE COUNTY AND THE CAPACITY WE ARE AT WITH OUR OLD JAIL THAT IS A 5-7 YEAR BAND-AID. A JAIL AT 80% CAPACITY IS CONSIDERED AT CAPACITY BUT DOES GET TO DO MOVEMENT, WE HAVE TO KEEP PEOPLE SEPARATED BECAUSE OF CASES.

WE HAVE BEEN ADDED 80% OR BETTER SINCE I HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE.

ONE TIME WE WERE 100 OVER MAXIM. THERE WAS NO QUESTION OF CAN WE JUST MOVE THE INMATES. IF ANOTHER JAIL WILL TAKE THEM, BUT A LOT WON'T, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT $100 PER DAY.

IF YOU WANT TO DO 30 INMATES PER MONTH THAT IS 30,000 DOLLARS AND THAT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE. WE HAVE A MULTIPLE TOOLED OF ISSUES. WE ARE COMMITTED TO KEEPING CLAY COUNTY SAY. I WANT TO COMMEND THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO PROVIDE AN EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF SERVICE.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE SHARE OF?

>> BURKE DID YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? >> I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS RIGHT

NOW. >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

THIS HAS BEEN A PUBLIC ISSUE SINCE LAST NOVEMBER WHEN THE COMMISSION DECIDED TO MAKE THIS A PRIORITY.

WE HAVE HAD 5-6 PUBLIC MEETINGS. IM NOT SURE THE TERM HIDDEN IS APPROPRIATE. SHERIFF COOK, TOOK SOME OF MY COMMENTS, THE JAILS ARE AT CAPACITY.

YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU HAVE BEEN OVER CAPACITY.

SPACES, THEY ARE LEASED, AND AT RISK AT ANY POINT.

TROY, I THINK HAS ADDRESSED THE OPERATING COSTS WITH THIS SYSTEM. YOU HAVE OPERATING COSTS AND CAPITAL COSTS AND EXPANSION COSTS.

I THINK ALL THREE WE HAVE ADDRESSED.

I WANT TO BRING GO ONE SITUATION.

WE SHOULD HAVE A FACILITY READY AND THE ROADS READY.

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WHICH PROMPTED A QUESTION FROM ME, DO YOU WANT TO PAY FOR IT.

NO. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE FACED WITH TODAY. CURRENT RESIDENTS PAYING FOR EXPANSION. THIS IS A SYSTEM WHERE -- I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABILITY.

THIS PLAN HAS AFFORDABILITY. IN FACT, IT HAS AN OPTION WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY IMPACT FEES.

IF THERE ARE LOW INCOME OUT THERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY AN IMPACT FEE. WE HAVE TO RATE THEM AGAINST A CERTAIN CRITERIA BUT NONETHELESS IT ACCOMPLISHES THAT.

WE'VE LOOKED AT THE OTHER TWO LEGS OF THE STOOL WE HAVE BEEN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THIS IN THE FUTURE.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T LOOK AT IT SOONER THAN THAT.

SO ANYWAY,. >> DID YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE

ECONOMIC QUESTION? >> I MADE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS OR I READ A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. I JUST WANT TO A FEW THINGS ABOUT JOB GROWTH. HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH OVER IMPACT FEES. ONE ANSWER IS THE FACT THAT IT IS HAPPENING AS WE SPEAK AND MARCH 2025 I THINK THAT WILL SOLVE OUR JOB ISSUES. I THINK NIAGARA IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT. BUT GOING BACK TO WHEN WE HAVE THAT COMING IN, THE IMPACT FEES WOULD BE USED FOR THE CAPITAL PART. THAT IS WHERE THEY HAVE TO BE USED I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS BUT IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

>> I GUESS THE OCCUPATIONAL HAZARD, PEOPLE GOING OVER THE INFORMATION YOU GET OUT. SOMEONE SAID WE WERE HIDING IT.

WE OPERATE IN THE SUNSHINE UNLIKE A LOT OF INDUSTRIES AND ORGANIZATIONS. WHAT WE DO IS PUT IN FRONT OF YOU ALL OF THE TIME. THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THE ORGANIZATION THAT WORKS WITH BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS.

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THERE WAS AN AGENDA THAT INDICATED WE WOULD TALK ABOUT IMPACT FEES. INCREASE IN MILLEDGE, PEOPLE WARNING US THERE WILL BE AN INCREASE.

LET ME TELL YOU IF THIS DOESN' GET PAST THEIR WILL STILL BE AND INCREASE IN MILLEDGE. IT TOOK US EIGHT YEARS TO INCREASE MILLEDGE BECAUSE WE ARE A CONSERVATIVE GROUP WE TRY NOT TO SPEND YOUR MONEY FOOLISHLY. 2014 WAS THE PREVIOUS INCREASE.

THE SHERIFF AND PHI CHIEF SAID WE NEED SOME HELP.

WE NEED TO PAY OUR PEOPLE MORE. THE THING YOU SHOULD REMEMBER, THERE ARE 67 COUNTIES. TWENTY-THREE THAT DON'T HAVE IMPACT FEES. NOT ALL BUT MOST HAVE SHOWN NO GROWTH OR NEGATIVE GROWTH. THE REST OF THE COUNTIES HAVE IMPACT FEES, 43 OF THEM. WHY DO THEY HAVE THAT.

THEY NEED HELP PAYING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITIES THAT THE NEW GROWTH THAT YOU WILL BE BRINGING IN BY THE NATURE OF WHAT YOU DO, WILL WANT TO USE.

AS YOU HAVE SEEN IN THIS STUDY IT IS A FAIR STUDY AND TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR, THE SALES TAX AND PROPERTY TAX THAT WE USE EVERY DAY THAT IS DISCOUNTED OFF OF WHAT THE NEW FACILITIES NEED TO SERVICE THE NEW RESIDENTS AND THEY WILL PAY THE IMPACT FEES.

SO, FROM THAT STANDPOINT, FROM TAXES WE WILL HAVE MORE TAXES, THAT IS INEVITABLE. WE DON'T WANT TO TAX PEOPLE MORE THAN WE HAVE TO VOTE THAT IS WHERE WE ARE.

FOR THIS ROLE I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

IF I DIDN'T OFFER IT UP FOR THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES I FULLY SUPPORT THAT. THE ONLY PROBLEM THERE IS A NEW STATE STATUTE WHICH ALLOWS US TO INCREASE ONLY ONCE IN FOUR YEARS AND THAT HAS TO BE A 24% MAXIMUM INCREASE.

HOW THAT RUNS IN OPPOSITION ON HOW WE CAN OVERCOME THAT IS A DIFFERENT STORY. AND AS THE COMMISSIONER SAYS THIS IS NOT THE END ALL BE ALL. I THINK WE CAN DO A STUDY AFTER THREE YEARS WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FIVE YEARS.

>> YOU CAN DO A STUDY AT ANY POINT AND TIME.

>> WE SEE THIS AS AN ESSENTIAL WAY OF MAKING SURE OUR COUNTY IS SOMEPLACE PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE. THE QUALITY OF LIFE WILL BE THERE LONG AFTER MANY OF YOU HAVE RETIRED AND MADE YOUR MONEY AND MOVED ON. THE NEIGHBORHOODS WILL STILL BE HERE. THE BUILDERS RETIRED A LONG TIME AGO. THIS IS SOMETHING WE THINK IS ESSENTIAL. WE HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB.

WE HAVE DONE AN ADEQUATE JOB OF MEETING THE DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRY IN TERMS OF USING DIFFERENT DATA , WE HAVE HEARD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE INTIMATE THAT, CERTAINLY OUR STAFF WORKED HARD TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THE INFORMATION WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE WAS HAPPY WITH THIS. YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANOTHER WAY TO RAISE THESE FUNDS PUT IT ON THE TABLE.

UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT COMES OUT OF STATE CAPITAL, THEY ARE LIMITING WHAT THEY CAN DO TO RAISE FUNDS. AND IT THAT MAKES IT TOUGH.

CONSEQUENTLY THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW WE THINK IS FAIR.

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A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON WHERE THESE EXISTING SOURCES ARE.

I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL ASPHALT STARTS HITTING THE GROUND.

WORSE CARLOS. I HAVE HEARD ENOUGH ABOUT DESIGN PLANS AND RIGHT OF WAYS AND STORM WATER PONDS.

I WOULD LIKE TO START SHOWING YOU WHAT WILL HAPPEN WE HAVE 17 MORE YEARS TO PAY ON THAT. THAT WILL BE COMING OUT OF WHAT WE GET. IT GOES UP WHETHER WE WANT TO OR NOT. BOTTOM LINE IS WE SIT HERE WITH A TOUGH DECISION TO MAKE. WE HOPE THAT EVERYONE WILL COME ALONG ON THE RIDE. HERE IS AN EXAMPLE.

ST. JOHNS COUNTY AS BEEN RUNNING WITH IMPACT FEES FOR 20 YEARS.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS ONE LESS HOUSE BEING SOLD BECAUSE OF IMPACT FEES. BUT EVERYONE WANTS TO GO BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES PEOPLE WANT.

I KNOW WE TAXING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BRINGING IN NEW PEOPLE THAT WILL HOLD DOWN THE PEOPLE WHO COME IN BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY THE IMPACT FEES. A LOT OF PEOPLE EXPECT A CERTAIN QUALITY OF LIFE. THAT ATTRACTS THEM.

AT THIS POINT I CAN'T SEE US NOT MOVING FORWARD.

WE COULD COLLECT SALES TAX. WE PAY SEVEN OF $9 MILLION PER YEAR FOR REPAVING AND RESURFACING.

WILL BUYING POLICE GUYS. WE PAID SOME OF THAT OUT FOR THE SHARES RENOVATION AT THE JAIL. ALL OF THOSE COME OUT OF SALES TAX. WHEN YOU ADD WE NEED JAILS AND FIRE AND RESCUE, THEY ALWAYS QUOTE TO ME AND SAY WHY CAN'T WE HAVE PARK SPIRIT LIBRARIES AND CULTURAL FACILITIES, WE NEED

THOSE THINGS. >> THERE'S A PAPER ROUTE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE ROLE OF IMPACT FEES.

IT TALKS ABOUT NEW DEVELOPMENT. THIS CAN BE SUPPORTED BY IMPACT FEES. PEOPLE ARE LESS LIKELY TO WANT TO BE IN THESE AREAS. I DON'T WANT TO THROW ANOTHER AGENCY UNDER THE BUS, BUT I ASKED THIS QUESTION.

AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OPENED UP. THEY PAID CASH FOR IT.

THAT WAS FROM IMPACT FEES THEY INSTITUTE IN 2008-2,009.

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THEY RAISE $35 MILLION. DOES ANYONE THINK THERE WAS ONE BUS HOME SOLD BECAUSE YOU HAD TO PAY IMPACT FEES FOR THE SCHOOLS?

>> I DON'T THINK SO. >> THANK YOU SIR.

I DO HAVE A FEW COMMENTS OF MY OWN.

I FEEL LIKE I CAN SAY IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

TWO YEARS AGO WAS NO SECRET, I WAS THE NO TAX NO FEE COMMISSIONER. IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR WITH ME, IF YOU ONE IN THE FRAME OF MIND TO LISTEN TO ME I SAID THE REASON I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT RAISING THE MILLAGE RATE WAS BECAUSE I DIDN'T FEEL WE HAD GONE THROUGH THE MOTIONS TO REALLY TRIM THE FAT, LOOK AT ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS AND THOUGH WAY WE WERE SPENDING MONEY I WILL SAY, THE COUNTY MANAGER TOOK MY CHALLENGE, HE AND HIS STAFF HAVE REALLY GONE THROUGH INCREASING TRANSPARENCY ON WHERE MONEY IS GOING.

THE BUDGETING PROCESS AND THE CLERK SENDS HER REGARDS.

THE PARTNERSHIP OF MOVING INTO THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE HAS TAKEN THE SPENDING AND IT REALLY MADE IT TRANSPARENT TO THE PUBLIC. I PUSHED HARD AS THEY ARE PAINFULLY AWARE. THE MAXIMUM PRICE NOT TO EXCEED AND NOT TO HAVE CHANGE ORDERS AND SO, WHEN WE STARTED THIS, I STILL REMEMBER HAVING THE CONVERSATION WHEN WE PUT THE STICKY NOTES. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT OWN THEIR OWN LAND AND THEY WILL DEED OR GIVE OR SELL TO THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS WHO WILL BUILD THEIR OWN HOME AND THEY HAVE TO WRITE THE CHECK. I APPRECIATE THE PRIVATE CITIZEN BEING REPRESENTED TONIGHT AS WELL AS SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.

I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU COMING AND BRINGING UP THE AFFORDABILITY AND THE STANDARDS THAT ARE IN PLACE TODAY AND THIS IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE PIECE THAT SAYS A SINGLE PERSON MAKING LESS THAN $68,000 PER YEAR DO NOT PAY THESE FEES.

A FAMILY OF FOUR MAKING LESS THAN $100,000 DON'T PAY THESE FEES. TEACHERS, I SAW A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER EARLIER A TEACHER IS AT $47,000 PER YEAR BEGINNING SALARY. $41,000 FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. YOU COULD TAKE A DEPUTY MARRIED TO A TEACHER AND THEY COULD NOT HAVE TO PAY THIS FEE BUT STILL PURCHASE THAT HOME. T THAT AFFORDABILITY CONCERN, THIS WAS ADDRESSED. I APPRECIATE STOP DOING THAT.

AND THEN, I HAPPENED TO BE FRIENDS WITH A NUMBER OF BANKERS SO I CALLED MY BANKER FRIENDS AND I SAID TELL ME, WHAT DOES THIS ADD TO YOUR MORTGAGE? AND RIGHT NOW WITH INTEREST RATES THAT THEY WHERE THEY ARE, LISTENING TO THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT, I WAS JOKING WITH SOME OF THE FIREFIGHTERS.

A MINUTE RESPONSE TIME SEEMS LIKE OKAY, 8 MINUTES IS 8 MINUTES UNTIL IT IS YOU ON THE PHONE.

IT FEELS LIKE HOURS WHEN YOU ARE WAITING WHEN IT IS YOUR FAMILY MEMBER WHO HAS COLLAPSED OR YOUR HOUSE ON FIRE, YOU WANT THEM THERE IN 30 SECONDS TO SAVE YOUR PRECIOUS PETS OR CHILDREN OR BELONGINGS. AND THEN, FINALLY I BROUGHT THIS UP WE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS MAP OF POTENTIAL FIRE STATION

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AND WE HAVE TWO FIRE STATIONS TODAY THAT DON'T HAVE AMBULANCES. ONE IN MY DISTRICT AND ONE IN COMMISSIONER BURKE. IF ANY OF YOU ARE WORRIED THAT WE CAN GET TO YOU AND PROVIDE THE SAME CARE, THERE IS AN ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT, TRUCK AT EVERY FIRE STATION THAT IS STAFFED WITH PARAMEDICS AND EVERY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT YOU WOULD NEED TO HAVE YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS LIFE SAVED EXCEPT FOR STRETCHER AND THEY CAN COME GET YOU AND THEY WILL FLY IN A HELICOPTER IF NEED BE. YOU WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF BY FIREFIGHTERS. BUT WE HAVE TWO STATIONS WITHOUT AMBULANCES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T HOUSE THEM BECAUSE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE FACILITY IS NOT BIG ENOUGH.

AND THEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE THE PROPOSED LOCATIONS ARE. AND IF ANYONE IS WONDERING WHY WE WOULD TAKE EXISTING COUNTY FUNDS AND PUT IT IN A 2-1 MANNER, THERE -- THERE WOULD BE ONE FIRE STATION MOVED THERE WOULD BE TO AND HAVE SHE AND I WOULD SHARE ONE.

COMMISSIONER BURKS DISTRICT WOULD HAVE SIX FIRE STATION EITHER NEW OR RELOCATED. AND IN MIND IT WOULD BE TO AND HAVE. IF YOU TAKE THAT, BYPASSING THIS FEE IS NOT THE NEW GROWTH IT IS EVERYONE IN THE COUNTY.

I HAVE RESIDENTS AND I WENT TO A CIVIC ASSOCIATION MEETING FOR ONE OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD SPIRIT THOSE CITIZENS, THEY DON'T HAVE AN HOA, WHEN I WENT TO THEIR MEETING THE RESIDENT SAID, WHEN ARE YOU BUILDING A NEW FIRE STATION IN OUR AREA.

ON OUR PROPOSED LOCATIONS THEY WOULD GET ONE AT THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY. FIRE STATION 13 REALLY NEEDS TO MOVE WEST AND WE NEED TO PUT A FIRE STATION.

BUT BECAUSE OF THE LEVEL OF SERVICE WE NEED AND BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE FILLING IN, HOMES THAT WERE NOT OCCUPIED BEFORE OR THEIR BUYING A PIECE OF LAND AND THE PUTTING SOMETHING ON IT.

I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SERVICES.

THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT COULD TAKE FOR THEM TO GET TO YOU IS DIFFERENT WHEN THERE ARE 225 RESIDENTS.

I WILL JUST SAY I STARTED THIS IN A DIFFERENT PLACE THE RESIDENCE, WHO CAN BE FRUSTRATED WITH ME ARE MY KEYSTONE PEOPLE BECAUSE THERE REALLY ISN'T GOING TO BE MUCH CHANGE IN SERVICE.

BUT THE SHERIFF SAID IN THE PAST DAYS THEY HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF SIGNIFICANT SERVICE BECAUSE WE ARE ON THE COUNTY LINE AND UNFORTUNATELY OUR POPULATION IS CHANGING AND THERE'S A LARGE GROUP OF HOMELESS POPULATION WHO HAVE DECIDED KEYSTONE HEIGHTS IS A NICE PLACE TO CALL HOME WHICH WE AGREE, BUT THEY HAVE CHOSEN SOME NEFARIOUS ACTIVITIES TO DO IN OUR HOMETOWN WHICH WE DON'T WELCOME. AT ANY RATE, I WANTED TO MENTION THOSE SPIRIT FINALLY, ON THE EDC INITIATIVES, WE HAVE ONE ADOPTED INITIATIVE, AND WE HAVE THREE UNOFFICIAL.

AND THEN THE BLANDING BOULEVARD REVITALIZATION INITIATIVE, THAT OUR GROUP HAS TAKEN ON. THOSE ARE DIRECTLY INTENDED TO

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WE PAY THEM TO PROVIDE SERVICES BACK TO THE COUNTY AND I BELIEVE THAT IS IN THE SPRING EVERY YEAR.

>> IF YOU WANT A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND YOU HAVE THE PROPER ZONING, IF YOU HAVE THAT COMMERCIAL ZONING AND IT IS IN THERE WE DON'T GET TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T PUT ON THEIR PROPERTY. THE SAME WAY WE DON'T GET TO SAY HOW MANY HOMES CAN BE ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY.

SO IN COMMISSIONER BURKS DISTRICT THE MORATORIUM IS FOR DENSITY CHANGES NOT FOR NO RESIDENTIAL.

I KNOW THERE'VE BEEN PEOPLE ASKED WHY ARE YOU STILL BUILDING HOUSES IF YOU HAVE AN MORATORIUM.

SO, I THINK WE DO WANT TO LISTEN TO THE BUILDING COMMUNITY, WE DO HERE YOU THAT IS WHY WE HAVE WORKED HARD TO PUT THIS INTO PLACE BUT I THINK OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH WORK GOING INTO THIS, MORE THAN I THINK IN ANY OTHER COUNTY.

THE FINAL THINK IF YOU PAID ATTENTION TO THE ELECTION CYCLE JACKSONVILLE WAS ELECTING A SHARE BUT YOU SAW ST. JOHNS COUNTY WAS TRYING TO PASS A SALES TAX.

I HAPPENED TO BE FRIENDS WITH THE COMMISSIONER AND I SAID WHY DID YOU NEED TO PASS A SALES TAX.

WE LOOK ACROSS THE RIVER AND WE THINK THEY ARE FLUSH WITH MONEY.

HE SAID WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, WE CAN'T PAY OUR BILLS.

BUT THE CITIZENS DID NOT SEE FIT.

THEY DON'T HAVE A 1 CENT SALES TAX.

IT IS ONE OF THE LOWEST IN THE REGION BUT THEY HAVE AN IMPACT FEE. WE DO HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO

MAKE SURE REVENUE IS COMING IN. >> THIS IS A THREE-PRONGED MODEL. YOUR IMPACT FEES PAID FOR NEW CAPACITY BASED ON WHAT YOU NEED FOR DEVELOPMENT.

YOUR CIP PAYS FOR EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AND REPLACEMENT.

THESE THREE THINGS TOGETHER IS WHAT YO NEED FROM YOUR BUDGET TEAM FOR A SOUND FINANCIAL MODEL.

IF YOU LOOK AT ST. JOHN'S THEY ARE LOOKING AT AND MISSING ONE OF THE THREE PIECES. THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE A DEFICIT

RIGHT NOW. >> I THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE UP THAT DEFICIT. SO TAXPAYERS WILL PAY THAT

ANYWAY. >> OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF NOT I WILL ENTERTAIN A

MOTION. >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

WE ALREADY HAVE A MOBILITY FEES BASED ON THOSE HIGHLY DESIRED CATEGORIES, IS THAT SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO PLEASE SEND THIS, THIS DOESN'T CROSSOVER SO WOULD WE HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING.

>> THE ORDINANCE DOES HAVE THE SAME PROGRAM AND IT BUT IT DOES NOT HAVE SPECIFIC SUBSIDIES LIKE THE MOBILITY FEE.

I THINK THERE'S ONLY A FEW CATEGORIES LEFT.

>> WE HAVE HONED IT DOWN. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO NAME THOSE

CATEGORIES. >> WE HAVE THE SITDOWN

RESTAURANTS. >> I WAS TRYING TO AVOID THAT.

>> HE FOUGHT HARD FOR THAT SUBSIDY.

>> THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, WE HAVE HEARD FROM WHETHER

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>> IF YOU WANTED TO REACH WHICH YOU HAVE IN YOUR STUDY NOW, YOU WOULD HAVE TO SAY HOW MANY INSTALLMENTS AND THE STATUTES CONTROLEE. IT IS IN INSTALLMENTS.

SOMEONE SAID WE NEEDED RIGHT NOW AND YES WE DO.

THERE IS STILL NO ANSWER TO HOW WE GET IT RIGHT NOW.

IF WE HAD IMPACT FEES ALL OF THESE YEARS WHEN THEY WERE DROPPED WE WOULD NOT BE IN THIS POSITION BUT WE ARE.

THIS IS RIGHT AT THE BROWN. WE CAN'T GO ANY FURTHER.

>> I'M SORRY, I'M MAKING A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE IMPACT FEE.

>> I WILL SECOND PERIOD IF WE PASS THE CURRENT ORDINANCE AS IS, IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO GO BACK TO ADD SOME SEDATION OR DOES IT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE FRONT END OF THE ORDINANCE.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT FOR ECONOMIC, YOU CAN DO IT.

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>> COMMISSIONER BURKE IS AMENDING HER MOTION.

>> OF EMOTION AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE

WITH AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF JUNE >> IF IMPLEMENTED, CAN WE IMPLEMENT AND THE MORATORIUM AT ANY POINT DURING THIS TIME.

ANNA MORATORIUM THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE AFTER JUNE 1.

>> FOR CLARITY OUR MOTION AND SECOND IS TO IMPLEMENT WITH AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF JUNE 1, 2,023. ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. THAT WAS A NICE DISCUSSION I APPRECIATE THOSE WHO STAYED WITH US.

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 25. THIS IS THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF OUR EZ 2022-23.

THIS HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT.

BARRY IS. BECAUSE YOU DO NOT NEED A PUBLIC

HEARING IT HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN. >> SO IF YOU ARE PAYING ATTENTION AND YOU HAVEN'T LEFT THE ROOM MORE WATCHING ON TV,

[26.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Final Public Hearing to consider Adoption of CPA-2022-07 and PUD-2022-07. (District 1, Comm. Cella) (D. Selig)]

ITEM NUMBER 26 FINAL PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF CPA 232 -- ZERO SEVEN AND PUD -- 2022 -- ZERO SEVEN AND COMMISSIONER CELLA DISTRICT. THIS IS A PLAN AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE OF A SINGLE PARCEL FROM COMMERCIAL TO URBAN. THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE OF THIS ITEM UNTIL JANUARY 10, 2023 BUT I IMAGINE, DO WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING? SO WE HAVE WE NEED TO CONSIDER

THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> 'S OR ANYONE WHO LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. WE WILL REVISIT THIS ITEM IN A MONTH. I SEE NO ONE.

I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> I SECOND THE MOTION.

WE WILL CONTINUE BOTH ITEMS ANTI- B OF THIS ITEM UNTIL JANUARY 10. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

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[27.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - First Public Hearing to consider Transmittal of CPA 2022-21. Planning Commission voted 6-0 to recommend approval. (B. Carson)]

ITEM NUMBER 27. TRANSMITTAL OF CPA TWINS WEEK TWO -- 21 PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED 6.0 TO APPROVE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF MINUTES REFLECT THE MULTI- USED TRAIL SEGMENT OF THE NE -- FL GREENWAY TRAIL ALONG SR 21 BETWEEN LONG BAY ROAD AND HIGHWAY 16 AS IDENTIFIED BY TWO PIANOS CLINGS/DO BALL

FEASIBILITY STUDY. >> THEY HEARD THIS LAST TUESDAY.

THE MAP ON THE LEFT IS THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE GREENWAY AS IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED SPIRIT IT CONTINUES FROM THE JACKSONVILLE TRAIL DOWN THROUGH JENNINGS PARK IT GOES THROUGH BLANDING BOULEVARD AND TAKES A TURN ON TO 18.

CONTINUES DOWN. THAT BACK OVER TO WHERE IT CONNECTS WITH THE EXISTING TRAIL THAT WE HAVE.

THEY FUNDED A FEASIBILITY STUDY, AND THAT WAS CONCLUDED IN JUNE.

THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION IS THE ROUTE YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT.

WE DO HAVE SOME? AND THINGS TO RESOLVE IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY. WHAT WE ARE HOPING TO DO NOW IS TO ADD THIS SEGMENT, YOU SEE THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO DO THE SEGMENT THAT IS DOWN HERE. THIS WOULD PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE NEW REGIONAL PARK. THEY VOTED 6-0.

>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >> I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT AND CONFIRM, TO 18 WAS AN AREA THAT THE CONSTITUENTS WANTED TO HAVE.

THIS WILL TAKE A WHILE FOR US TO GET.

MAYBE WE CAN GET A QUICKER WAY. >> AS DEVELOPMENT COMES AND WE'LL TO HAVE THE SIDEWALK PUT IN AND THEY CAN PUT IN A BIKE TRAIL. THAT WILL HOPEFULLY BE SOONER.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. >> DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK ON

THIS ITEM? >> WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THAT IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.

SO WE WILL HEAR THAT THE NEXT MEETING FOR THE FINAL PUBLIC

HEARING. >> THIS IS TRANSMITTAL SO WE WILL SEND IT OFF TO THE STATE AND THEN COME BACK.

>> DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON IT TO SEND IT OFF?

>> WE DO -- DOES THAT CHANGE ANYONE'S OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING? TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? WE ONLY NEED TO VOTE TO TRANSMIT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN

AMENDMENT. >> SECOND PARAGRAPH MOVE

APPROVAL. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FUTHER DISCUSSION?

[28.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Final Public Hearing to consider Adoption of CPA 2022-12. (District 5, Comm. Burke) Planning Commission voted 7-0 to recommend approval. (B. Carson)]

YOU CARRIES 5-0. OKAY, ITEM NUMBER 28.

FINAL PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF 2022 -- 12 PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

THIS IS A CORRECTED AMENDMENT TO THE 2040 PLAN FUTURE LANGAN THAT

USE MAP. >> THANK YOU.

>> WOULD YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, THE AREA WE ARE PROPOSING THE CHANGE TO. THIS IS LOCATED EAST OF HINDLEY

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WHEN WE HAD THE MASTER PLAN COME IN, THIS IS WHEN IT WAS FINALLY ADOPTED. THIS WAS THE PRIMARY CONSERVATION NETWORK. ON THE LEFT SIDE YOU WILL SEE THE GREEN HATCH IS THE PRIMARY NETWORK.

THIS IS AN AREA THAT IS ELEVATED.

IT'S ONE OF THE OTHER AREAS THEY TALK ABOUT ON THE RIGHT YOU WILL SEE THIS IS THE CURRENT ZONING. THROUGH THIS AREA THERE IS A LINE THAT TRAVELS THAT IS THE ROAD.

THERE IS A SEWER LINE THAT SERVE THESE LOTS AND THAT WAS IN 2,000. THE YELLOW HATCH INDICATES THERE IS A FLOOD ZONE. AND THE FLOODWAY IS THE ORANGE AREA WHICH INCLUDES BLACK CREEK AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.

YOU CAN SEE THE FIRST TWO LOTS WERE AT ONE TIME ONE LIVE.

THE VERY LAST LOT, ARE BUILT AND THIS CAME TO US BECAUSE THESE WERE VACANT. THE LAND OWNED OR WANTED TO BUILD HIS PROPERTY AND WE TOLD HIM NO.

SO THIS IS A CORRECTED NATURE TO HELP HIM DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY AS INTENDED. THIS IS GOING FROM 0 DWELLING UNITS AND IT WOULD HAVE POTENTIAL FOR THREE UP TO 12.

WE EXPECT THIS WILL BE THE SAME WITH ONE HOUSE PER LOT.

SO THE PROPOSED CHANGE WILL ALLOW THIS TO BE DEVELOPED.

IT WILL GO FROM THE UPLAND PORTION THE BALANCE WOULD REMAIN PROTECTED. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS REQUESTED AND AS YOU STATED THEY RECOMMEND TO APPROVE THIS.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THERE'S ALREADY THREE HOMES THAT YOU THOUGHT WAS WETLANDS BUT IT'S AN AREA THAT THEY CAN BUILD ON, BUT THE MOST THEY COULD BUILD ON.

AND THIS IS THE POINTING AREA WHICH IS BASED ON AN ACTUAL SURVEY. AND THIS IS BASED ON THE ACTUAL WEATHER LIVE. WE KNOW EVERYTHING SOUTH IS DRY

AND EVERYTHING NORTH IS WENT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, ANYONE WANTING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM I SEE NON, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD.

ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING I.

[29.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Final Public Hearing to consider DRI 2022-01; changes to the Governors Park DRI; and PUD-2022-09 for the Governors Park PUD (Planning Commission voted 7-0 to approve) (E. Lehman)]

MOTION CARRIES 5-0. >> ITEM NUMBER 29 PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER DRI CHANGES TO THE GOVERNORS PART FOR THE GOVERNORS PARK DID THIS IS A CONSIDERATION OF CHANGES TO BOTH THE GOVERNORS PART AND GOVERNORS PART HOOD AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO

APPROVE. >> GOOD EVENING.

FOR THE RECORD I'M THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.

LOCATED AT 14775 AUGUSTINE ROAD. ALSO WITH ME TONIGHT CHRIS, IS

[02:45:04]

SO THIS WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2009 AND WE HAD ANOTHER AND SINCE THAT TIME QUITE A BIT HAS HAPPENED WITH THE ROADWAY NETWORK. I DO WANT TO DO A LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING. THERE WERE TWO STAFF REPORTS ISSUED. THERE WAS AS CORRECTIVE STAFF REPORT SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION IN SUPPORT OF APPROVAL.

I WANT TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD REALLY QUICK.

AND THERE ARE A FEW CHANGES TO THE PROPOSED DRI AMENDMENT.

MOST OF THEM ARE HOUSEKEEPING. THERE'S ONLY ONE CHANGE.

SO, THIS IS A MAP SHOWING SOME OF THE PLAN IMPROVEMENTS.

AS WE NOTE THE FIRST KO EXPRESSWAY THIS IS IN BLUE AND UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND THE PHASE THREE PORTION IN THE GREEN, IS NOW FULLY FUNDED. THE GOVERNORS PARK DEVELOPMENT IS SHADED IN THE BROWN. AND THE ORANGE IS THE BYPASS SEGMENT. THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT MAP THAT SHOWS GREEN COVE SPRINGS BYPASS IN THE BLACK.

AT THE TIME IT WAS ADOPTED IT WAS ENVISIONED THAT IT WOULD BE THE THROUGH ROAD. THIS SHOWS THE COMPARISON OF THE PROPOSED ALIGNMENT. THE PARK GROUP CURRENTLY HAS THIS UNDER CONTRACT TO PURCHASE. THEY WILL CONTROL THAT AND GET THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE ALIGNMNT.

AND THIS IS SHOWN IN BLACK. YOU CAN SHOW THEIR SKILLS FURTHER SOUTH OFF SITE BEFORE IT IS CONNECTED.

>> WE WERE LOOKING AT OUT THIS WOULD CONNECT BACK.

WE DID A SERIES OF LAYOUTS AND THIS WAS THE BEST ONE.

YOU CAN SEE THE RED -- LINE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE INTERCHANGE AND U.S. 17 TO THE NORTH MOST OF THE LAND IS OWNED BY THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND THE LIGHTER GREEN SHADE.

THIS BYPASS ALIGNMENT WILL PROVIDE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

THIS SHOWS BY COLOR CODING THIS WOULD BE THIS WILL AVOID

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WITH THAT I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I TALKED TO CHRIS ABOUT THE PROJECT.

DO YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW, IF THIS INTERRUPTS THE HIGHWAY, THE SIGNIFICANCE, THEY ACTUALLY SETTLED IN PENSACOLA FIRST.

THEY DEVELOP A ROAD FROM SAINT AUGUSTINE.

AND THAT ROAD, WAS THE FIRST U.S. HIGHWAY PURCHASE BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND HOW DID TALLAHASSEE BECOME THE FIRST ONE. I DON'T KNOW, WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS ALIGNMENT. DO YOU KNOW EITHER ONE OF THESE

CRACKS. >> THIS SHOWS THE LAYOUT.

I THINK IT IS SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE.

GO BACK ONE MORE. >> BELLAMY ROAD I BELIEVE, IT IS

SOUTH. >> AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER CLAY COUNTY HAS PICKED THAT UP YET BUT IT DOES HAVE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE HISTORIC SOCIETY VIEWS IT AS IMPORTANT OR NOT.

>> WILL WE HAVE SEVERAL MARKERS. >> BELLAMY ROAD, THERE IS A GOD OF NEED TO PROTECT HAD A CONVERSATION WITH CHRIS AS WELL.

SOMETHING I THOUGHT CHRIS SAID WHEN WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION.

THIS ACTUALLY DELAYS YOUR CONSTRUCTION BY A COUPLE OF

YEARS. >> THE FACT IS THE UTILITIES WILL BE READY FOR TWO YEARS. THERE'S ANOTHER PART OF THE MODIFICATION THAT EXTENDS THE PHASING TWO YEARS.

THIS WILL BE 20/30 BY THE TIME IT IS COMPLETED.

SO THE FIRST PHASE IS EXTENDED OUT.

>> THIS COULD BE A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION WE JUST DON'T KNOW

AT THIS POINT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, PUBLIC HEARING.

I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK TO US ON ITEM 29 I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS ON THIS.

I'M SORRY, YES 2209. MAYBE I DO HAVE YOUR CARD.

[02:55:07]

>> AND WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE FIVE PEOPLE THAT MAY BE IMPACTED BY THE LINE, ARE ANY ON ( INDISCERNIBLE ) ROAD.

>> WE WILL GET AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION.

IS THAT YOUR ONLY QUESTION? >> L DID WELFARE SO, IF YOU WOULDFILL OUT A CARD FOR CHRISTY, SHE WILL GET WITH YOU.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT. >> I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHERE IT

IS. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD.

>> I MOVE APPROVAL. >> DEVELIN MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION. DOES THIS INCLUDE A AND B? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION INDICATE BY

[30.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Final Public Hearing to consider adoption of REZ 2022-24. (District 1, Comm. Cella) Planning Commission voted 5-1 to recommend approval. (M. Brown)]

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 30. THIS IS REZONING TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF 1153 CLAY STREET FROM AR TO PS ONE TO ALLOW FOR A DAYCARE FACILITY. THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED 5-ONCE RECOMMEND APPROVAL. MR. BROWN.

>> REZONING 22 -- 24. SPEAKING FOR THE APPLICANT.

THIS IS A REZONING OF 0.5 ANCHORS AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL TO PRIVATE SERVICES. IT IS IN THE PLANNING DISTRICT PARCEL IS DESIGNATED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND HAS APPROXIMATELY ( INDISCERNIBLE ) FRONTAGE ON CLAY STREET.

THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST IS ZONED AR.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOU THAT. YOU CAN SEE THE AR REQUEST IS BASICALLY AN EXTENSION TO THE EXISTING ZONING.

AND THEN YOU STAFF AS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND DETERMINE THE REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE ZONE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE.

THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, REVIEW THIS AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED REZONING, AND AS THE CHAIRMAN INDICATED THEY VOTED 55 ONCE RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED REZONING.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF SAP >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> OKAY. WITH THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME

UP AND ADDRESS THIS PLEASE? >> 1301 RIVERPLACE.

JACKSONVILLE WITH THE LONGFORM. AS MIKE AS INDICATED, CAN YOU PUT THE MAP BACK UP WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE.

WE ARE LOOKING TO ANNEX THIS PROPERTY TO THE EAST THAT RUNS ALONG U.S. 17. TO USE THIS TOGETHER AS A DAYCARE FACILITY THAT IS OUR PLAN.

EVERYTHING TO THE NORTH OF US, SACRED HEART IS TO THE NORTH.

AND TO THE NORTH, IS ANOTHER CAMPUS FOR THE METHODIST CHURCH.

[03:00:07]

I DO WANT TO INTRODUCE BRIAN. AND HE WILL GIVE YOU INFORMATION

ABOUT THE PROPOSED SITE. >> OKAY.

>> GOOD EVENING. UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE A SITE PLAN FOR THE VISUALS ON THE SCREEN SO WE WILL RUN THIS ONE.

LET ME KNOW. THE SITE PLAN WE PROPOSE YOU HAVE U.S. 17 RUNNING NORTH SOUTH WITH CLAY STREET INTERSECTING HERE. YOU HAVE THE BAPTIST CHURCH TO THE SOUTH. AND WE HAVE PARKING PLACES INCLUDING TWO ADA COMPLIANT PARKING SPOTS.

AND THE PROPOSED SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE FACILITY IS ROUGHLY 9,000 SQUARE FEET WITH A 6,000 SQUARE-FOOT OUTDOOR PLAYGROUND.

THERE WERE LAND TO THE WEST IS RESIDENTIAL USE.

AND THERE WILL BE A REQUIRED LANDSCAPE IN ADDITION TO THE STORM WATER POND AND THAT ADJACENT PROPERTY.

IN TERMS OF OPERATIONS, THE MECHANICS OF HOW CHILDREN ARE DROPPED OFF, PHYSICALLY ESCORT THEIR CHILDREN INSIDE OF THE FACILITY CHECK THEM IN AND WHEN THEY'RE CHECKING THEM OUT, CHECK THEM OUT PHYSICALLY, BRING THEM TO THE CAR AND EXIT FROM THEIR.

THAT HELPS TO ALLEVIATE QUESTIONS THAT MAY COME UP AROUND THE DESIGN. SO WITH THAT, I WILL PAUSE IT

FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> SO YOU SAID THERE ARE 88 PARKING SPACES.

HOW MANY WILL THE DAYCARE HOLD. >> 165 BOB WE HAVE THE OPERATOR HERE AS WELL FOR ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR THE INS AND OUTS AND TIMING. WE DOING SOME DATA ON ARRIVAL TIMES AND DEPARTURE TIMES FOR PEAK HOURS.

WE ARE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY, 8-830.

THAT IS THE EXPECTATION. ROUGHLY ONE CAR EVERY

1-2 MINUTES. >> DO YOU WANT TO PROVIDE ANY

MORE DETAILS ON THE SPECIFICS? >> VERSUS NOT LIKE PUBLIC SCHOOL WHERE EVERYONE IS EXPECTED AT A CERTAIN TIME.

MY CONCERN IS IF PEOPLE ARE PARKING AND WALKING CHILDREN IN WE HAVE ARE HUNDRED AND 60 POTENTIAL OCCUPANCY BUT ONLY 88 SPOTS. OTHER YOU'RE THINKING PEOPLE HAVE TWINS ORDERED TWO KIDS THEY WILL DROP OFF AT THE SAME TIME.

SO, THAT IS THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE.

>> SO I WILL ADDRESS THAT AND HANDED OVER TO JERRY.

STARTING AT 6:30 P.M. WE ARE LOOKING AT SEVEN CARS FROM 7-7:30 P.M. AGAIN ■FROM7:30 P.M.-8:00 P.M.

THE PEAK OF THAT WINDOW IS EXPECTED TO BE BETWEEN 8-8:30 P.M. DURING THAT WE ARE EXPECTING ROUGHLY 13 CARS. THEN DOWN TO EIGHT CARS FOR THE 9-930 WINDOW. IT IS SPREAD OUT IN TERMS OF

THOSE BLOCKS. >> WHAT IS YOUR EVENING HI MARK.

THIS SHOWS TEN CARDS AS THE ESTIMATE.

WITH THAT, I WILL LET JERRY SPEAK TO THAT.

>> HELLO I AM JERRY WALKER. THE ADDRESS IS 1899 SOUTH CLADE BOULEVARD. I THINK YOUR QUESTION IS ABOUT THE 165. WE ARE LICENSED FOR 165 BUT ALL

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YOU HAVE SOME THAT COME YOU HAVE BEFORE SCHOOL AND AFTER SCHOOL.

THEY ARE THERE AND THEN THEY ARE GONE.

THEN YOU HAVE THE INFANT ROOM WHICH MAY BE LICENSED FOR EIGHT AND THEN EACH CLASSROOM. AND THEN, IN THE SUMMERTIME YOU HAVE SUMMER CAMP. THE KIDS ARE THERE.

EVEN WHEN WE HAVE GRADUATIONS WE DON'T HAVE 165 BECAUSE OF THE PARKING LOT. THEY ARE NOT THERE ALL OF THE TIME. I DO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE RESIDENCE ARTISTS CONCERNED ABOUT THE STACKING OR THE CONGESTION. I HAVE DONE SOME STUDIES FOR OTHER BOARDS THAT WE'VE MET WITH FOR ZONING AND DIFFERENT REASONS. AND I TOOK THE STUDY ONE WAS LICENSE FOR 161. I EVEN WENT UP TO ONE THAT WAS LICENSE FOR 317 AND THAT IS HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE AVERAGE.

I VISITED TWO OF OUR SCHOOLS FREQUENTLY ON THE DROP OFF TIME BECAUSE THERE ON THE WAY. AND IT'S REALLY AMAZING TO SEE THE PARENTS, THEY PARK, THEY TAKE THEIR KIDS IN, THAT HIS WIFE THAT DROP OUT. IS THE WAY IT IS.

I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER DAYCARE'S IN THE AREA, I WILL GIVE YOU THIS EXAMPLE. WERE NOT JUST BABYSITTERS ONCE THE CHILDREN MOVE OUT OF THE LABOR ROOM WE HAVE A CURRICULUM.

IT IS CALLED BE ALL YOU CAN BE. WE ARE ACCREDITED AND CERTIFIED.

WE TEACH OUR CHILDREN THINGS THAT PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE NOT TEACHING ANYMORE. BE KIND AND BE HONEST.

WE T THINGS THAT ARE NOT TAUGHT IN PUBLIC SCHOOL.

WE FEEL WE ARE FAMILY FRIENDLY. >> AND SOMETIMES WE ADJUST.

IF WE FIND WE DON'T NEED TO BE THERE WE WILL ADJUST IT TO

SEVEN. >> WE ADJUST THE HOURS SPIRIT WE TRIED TO CONFIRM TO WHAT IS IN THE AREA, THAT IS WHAT WE TRIED

TO DO. >> DO YOU HAVE LOCATIONS CAUSED

BY? >> WE HAVE LIKE 12-14 AND JACKSONVILLE. WE HAVE 57 LOCATIONS IN FLORIDA.

126 WE HAVE A FRANCHISE FEE THAT LIVES IN THE AREA THAT WILL ACTUALLY OWN THE SCHOOL IF THIS IS APPROVED.

>> AND ALSO MADAM CHAIR I SPOKE WITH THE ATTORNEY FOR KID CITY IN THE HALLWAY AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS UNDERSTOOD.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW. >> MY QUESTION IS, THIS WILL BE

ANNEX WITH THE OTHER PARCEL. >> 1.65.

>> AND THEN WE WOULD ADD THAT. >> THE OTHER QUESTION, I HEARD BEFORE SCHOOL AND AFTER'S SCHOOL CARE DOES NOT INCLUDE TRANSPORTATION? 'S.

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>> 14 PASSENGER VANS IS WHAT WE USE, IF ANYONE HAS ONE THEY WOULD LIKE TO SO WE WILL PURCHASE IT IS LIKE GOLD RIGHT NOW, BUT WE DO NOT USE THE BIG BOSSES ANYMORE.

>> THANK YOU. >> OTHER QUESTIONS? CHANGE THERE IS A RIGHT TURN LANE THEIR QUIRKS.

>> YES THERE IS THERE IS A RIGHT TURN LEADING THEY ARE, AND ALSO

FLEMING NB ON. >> ACROSS THE STREET COMING FROM THE OTHER DIRECTION IS THEIR MEDIAN RIGHT THERE?

>> THERE IS. CHANGE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS

COURSE. >> OKAY SEEING NONE I WILL OPEN UP THE POLIO ONE CARD ON THIS. AND A SECOND I WILL GET TO YOU

IN JUST A SECOND PERIOD. >> AS A RESIDENT ON CLAY STREET, I CAN TELL YOU NOW, I HAVE BEEN TIMING SINCE LAST WEEK HOW LONG IT TAKES ME TOO GET ACROSS 17. IT TAKES ME A GOOD 5 MINUTES, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE TRAFFIC LIGHT TO CHANGE THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC BE ABLE TO GO NORTHBOUND.

SO YOU ARE TALKING TEN CARS COMING AT A TIME.

YOU ARE NOT GETTING OFF CLAY STREET ANYTIME SOON, BECAUSE OF THE INTERSECTION, WHEN YOU HAVE TO CROSS, BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY GET ONE CAR IN THE INTERSECTION. AN THEN WHEN THE CHURCH LETS OUT, WE ARE ALREADY HAVING TO GO DOWN THE U-TURN AND COME BACK ACROSS, TO GET ACROSS 17. I WORK, I DO NOT HAVE TIME TO SIT THERE IN OUR AND GET OUT ON 17.

THEN THE TURN LANE WHEN YOU WERE TURNING ONTO CLAY STREET, YOU ARE TALKING TEN CARS THERE, YOU WILL HAVE A BACKUP ON 17.

BECAUSE, IF THEY WANT TO COME IN OFF 17 IN LEAVE OF 17, THAT IS FINE. YOU HAVE THEM COME ON CLAY STREET, I DO NOT KNOW IF THEY HAVE DONE ANY TYPE OF STUDY, AS FAR AS THE WIDTH OF THE STREET? BUT AS IT IS WHEN YOU ARE PASSING A CAR ON CLEAT STREET, YOU ARE HAVING TO GO INTO THE GRASS. WE HAVE ALREADY HAVE AN ACCIDENT, A T-BONES ON CLEAT STREET.

FOR THEM TO GET OUT, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME OUT ON CLAY ON CLAY STREET, THE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME OUT.

THEN WAY, OR, THEY ARE GOING TO GO DOWN THE SIDE ROAD AND COME OUT ON FORD, THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO WAYS TO GET OFF OF CLAY STREET, ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO FLEMING, BY THE CHURCH.

BUT THAT DOES NOT HAVE THE CROSS THROUGH THAT IS BLOCKED OFF IN THE INTERSECTION. THERE IS ONLY TWO WAYS TO GET OUT TO GO NORTHBOUND, ON CLAY IN FLOYD.

I HAVE NOT EVEN TALKED ABOUT THE FLOODING THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WE ARE ALREADY FLOODING ON THE STREET.

SO, WHAT ARE THEIR PLEAS TO PUT IN DRAINAGE? TO PREVENT THE PUSHBACK OF WATER TO GO BACK TO THE RESIDENCE ON CLAY STREET? I HAVE NOT SEEN THE PLANS, BUT IF THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING IN A RETENTION POND BEHIND, WHERE IT IS YELLOW, THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A POINT IN THEIR. THERE IS A TRAILER SITS RIGHT THERE, THEY ARE GOING TO FLOOD OUT.

SO NOW YOU ARE AFFECTING PEOPLE'S LIVES AND WHERE THEY LIVED ON WHAT TO PUT A BUSINESS THERE.

I'M WATCHING DON'T PUT A BUSINESS THERE.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO, TO HELP THE RESIDENTS? I DO NOT WANT TO WAIT AN HOUR TO GO TO WORK.

SO, THAT IS MINE THANK YOU. >> SURE NO PROBLEM.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK YOU ARE WELCOME TO.

>> A GOOD EVENING ARE YOU ALL DOING? THIS IS MY FIRST TIME DOING THIS PART IN MY NERVOUSNESS.

AS MY WIFE MENTIONED WE LIVE AT 1325 COLLATE STREET.

WE LOOK FURTHER DOWN MOST OF THE DEAD END, IT IS A DEAD END STREET. WE LIVE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, AND AS MY WIFE MENTIONED DURING THE RAINY SEASONS, WE DO GET QUITE A BIT OF WATER, IT IS ALONG THE ROAD, STAGNANT IN THE DITCHES, AND THE ONLY WAY FOR OUR DRAINAGE TO GO UNDER 17, IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 17. I AM SORRY, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF'S CLAY STREET. THAT IS THE MAIN DRAINAGE DITCH.

COVERAGE, IN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THEIR ROOM, ALL THE DRAINAGE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE. YOU WANT TO READ TENSION UPON

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SO WITH THE AMOUNT OF DRAINAGE THAT WE ARE POSSIBLY LOOKING AT, THAT WATER HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE OR BACK UP SOMEWHERE, SO THAT IS MY CONCERN. THE DRAINAGE DITCH GOING UNDER 17, IS ONLY SO BIG AND ROUND. SO MY CONCERN IS HOW WILL THE ADDRESS THAT? AS MY WIFE ALSO MADE A POINT OF, THE TRAFFIC. THEIR ENTRANCE AND EGRESS IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF CLAY STREET, PROBABLY ONLY 50 FEET FROM HIGHWAY 17 FROM THE TURN LANE. IF YOU DO GET ALL OF THESE CARS COMING DOWN AND DROP OFF THEIR KIDS, AND I HAVE A QUESTION AS FAR AS A 6:30 P.M. TIMEFRAME. AS FAR AS THE MAIN POINT OF THEM DROPPING OFF THEIR KIDS. A LOT FROM CLAY COUNTY, THEY HAVE TO TRAVEL UP 17 TO GET YOUR JACKSONVILLE THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THEM WORK. IF THERE START TIME IS AT 9:00 O'CLOCK, YOU ARE PROBABLY LOOKING AT 730-8:00 O'CLOCK A.M.

MOST OF THE PEOPLE DURING THAT TIMEFRAME YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 160 CARS, IF THEY HAVE A SINGLE CHILD.

OR WE THINK THAT ONE HOUR TIME FRAME.

YOU KNOW, I DO NOT SEE IT BEING SPREAD OUT OVER THREE HOURS, JUST THE WAY CLEAT COUNTY RESIDENTS WORK.

AND THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE THAT HIGHWAY 17 IS.

THE BACKUP OF TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.

NOT TO MENTION YOU HAVE CARLOADS OF KIDS, TRYING TO CROSS 17, AND YOU ALL HAVE DRIVEN IT BEFORE. YOU SEE HOW IT IS A MAJOR SPEEDWAY. FIFTY-FIVE IS THE SPEED LIMIT.

YOU ARE LUCKY IF YOU ARE KEEPING UP WITH THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC V2 65-70. THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE DO.

MY CONCERN IS THAT CARLOADS OF KIDS CROSSING 17, AND AS MY WIFE MENTIONED, THERE IS ALREADY HAVE BEEN ACCIDENTS THERE.

WITH THE BLOCKAGE OF TURN LANES, ALL OF THESE PEOPLE COMING IN, YOU WILL HAVE LOSS OF VISION TO SEE WHAT IS COMING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THOSE CARS ARE DOCTOR LANE.

SO, THAT IS MY MAIN CONCERN I AM NOT AGAINST BUSINESSES AT ALL SO THANK YOU FOR INITIALING I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU MR. TESTER? >> THANK YOU MY NAME IS WARREN CHESSER 1705 HANKINS COURT. WE ALL WRITE TO THE SOUL OF THE PROJECTED PROPERTY, WE WOULD LOVE A DAY CARE, NEXT TO OUR CHURCH. BUT WE ARE HERE WITH ME CONCERN ABOUT CROSSING SIX LANES OF TRAFFIC.

WE HAVE DIFFICULTY EVEN GETTING OUT 95 OF OUR MEMBERS, AT CERTAIN PERIODS OF TIME. IN THE TIME GETS DARK.

I KNOW PERSONALLY, TO SAY YOU ARE SORRY, AFTER SOMEBODY PERISHES IT IS NOT ENOUGH. OUR CONCERN, WE WILL BE GOOD NEIGHBORS, BUT OUR CONCERN IS HOW WILL THEY COME OUT OF CLAY STREET? BECAUSE IF THERE IS ONE OR TWO, THEY WILL NOT BACK OUT, THEY WILL COME THROUGH THE CHURCH TO GO TO FLEMING. OR THEY WILL GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD GO TO FLEMING AND GO OVER TO FLOYD.

I HAVE ONLY BEEN HERE TWO YEARS AS PASTOR, BUT THE WAY THE TRAFFIC BREAKS, INC. IF YOU PUT IN ANY SHADOW OR RAIN OR DARKNESS, IT COULD BE EVEN DIFFICULT AT 6:00 O'CLOCK.

WE WANT TO WELCOME IF THE MISSION SAYS GO FORWARD.

OUR CONCERN IS JUST THE SAFETY OF ENTERING THE 17 CALL BECAUSE CLAY IS NOT A VERY GOOD ROAD I'M SORRY, THANKS.

>> THANK YOU, WELCOME TO CLAY COUNTY.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK?

YES, MA'AM. >> MY NAME IS NATALIE ELLENBERG, I LIVE AT 1137 FLOYD STREET. I AM JUST SOUTH OF HARBOR CHURCH HARBOR BAPTIST CHURCH. I AM THE ONLY HOUSE ON FLOYD STREET, AND WE HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS AND I BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE TRAFFIC. AS A NURSE, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS ALWAYS A SAFETY SAFETY, SAFETY.

I WILL SIT ON MY CHURCH AND LOOK AT YOU BELL BACK UP, ALWAYS OF

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IF THE PARENTS ARE DROPPING THEIR KIDS OFF, THEY ARE GOING TO TRY TO CUT THROUGH, OR THEY WILL GO BACK TO CLAY IN HIBERNIA AND ON HIBERNIA DOWN TO FLOYD. I CAN TELL YOU TEN CARS BACK BECAUSE IT PASSES MY HOUSE ARE YOU HIM THE ONLY THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF FORD STREET. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY CATS MY HUSBAND HAS HAD TO SCRAPE OFF OF THE ROAD, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE FLYING DOWN THE ROAD. BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN BACKED UP, SO IF YOU ADD THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DROP THEIR CHILDREN OFF, I LOVE THE FACT THAT THE PARENTS HAVE TO SKIN THEM IN.

I LOVE THAT, AT THE SAME TIME THE PARENTS ARE STARTING TO PANIC BECAUSE NOW THEY HAVE DROPPED THEIR CHILD OFF, AND THEY ARE RUNNING LATE AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE SPEEDING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE WILL SPEED DOWN CLAY, SPEEDING DOWN FLEMING, THERE WILL BE SPEEDING THROUGH THE HARBOR BAPTIST CHURCH PARKING LOT.

THERE WAS PLEA DOWN FOR YOU BECAUSE I'M COSTLY YELLING AT PEOPLE TO SLOW DOWN. WE HAVE FAMILIES THAT LOVE TO RIDE THEIR BIKES, OR WALK THEIR DOGS CALM AS A NURSE I CRINGE.

I AM OKAY I AM A HOSPICE NURSE I DEAL WITH DEATH BUT I CANNOT DEAL WITH THE CONSTANTLY IT SCARES ME.

IF WE PUT IN LIGHTS. BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE DARK AT 5:00 O'CLOCK, AND THERE IS WOODS.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE THESE CHILDREN, OR THE FAMILIES WALKING, OR RIDING BIKES OR THE DOGS.

I CANNOT EVEN SEE A STOPLIGHT BEING PUT AT CLAY IN 17.

THAT IS GOING TO THROW EVERYBODY OFF, IF THEY ARE ZOOMING THROUGH

17 TO GET TO WORK THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, WE APPRECIATED.

WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD.

>> CAN I GET THE ENGINEER. >> SURELY.

>> THIS COULD MOVE A LITTLE BIT BUT THAT IS A GENERAL NUMBER YEARS GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WILL BE PART OF THE

PLAYGROUND AND PARKING LOT. >> THERE WILL BE A FULL HEARING

TO COVER THAT SIDE OF THINGS. >> THANK YOU.

>> BIT YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? >> I WAS GOING TO ADD EVERYONE KNOWS THIS AS WELL. THIS REQUIRES.

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>> AND THEY CAN'T BE MORE THAN 200 FEET APART.

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[03:36:12]

THE THIS IS TO CREATE TO KEEP COMMERCIAL AT INTERSECTIONS WHERE WE HAVE LIGHTS WHERE WE CAN HANDLE TRAFFIC MOVEMENT BECAUSE COMMERCIAL HAS HIGHER TURNING VOLUME THAN AND THE REASON FOR THE POLICY. SO THE APPLICANT WAS FORCED TO, IF HE WANTED TO CONTINUE WITH THIS LOCATION TO TRY A DIFFERENT ROUTE. THIS IS THE INDUSTRIAL OPTION.

>> THE STAFF LOOK AT THE OPEN CRITERIA, BUT THERE ARE POLICIES FOR CREATING NEW INDUSTRIAL LAND.

IN THAT INSTANCE, THE PROPERTY THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN INDUSTRIAL ON A PARCEL THAT IS SURROUNDED BY AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL AND THERE IS NO OTHER INDUSTRIAL ANYWHERE NEAR THERE. SO THE APPLICATION DOESN'T MEET THAT CRITERIA. THEY REQUESTED SPECIFICALLY THE REZONING THAT THE APPLICANT -- IN THE PACKAGE 90 WEB THE ORIGINAL WRITTEN STATEMENT AND THE AMENDED ONE.

AND WHAT BASICALLY WAS PROVIDED THE REVISED VERSION.

THEY DID REMOVE THIS GAMES STRAIGHT OUT OF ZONING.

AND BASICALLY LIMITED THE NUMBER OF USES AND THAT TYPE SO WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS EIGHT LIST THAT IS NOT IN INDUSTRIAL FASHION.

THIS DOESN'T REALLY CHANGE THE FACT SO STAFF IS STILL RECOMMENDED DENIAL. APPLICANT IS HERE.

>> WITH THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK?

>> GOOD EVENING, I'M ACTUALLY HERE THIS EVENING REPRESENTING

[03:40:07]

I WANTED TO GIVE YOU BACKGROUND. THIS IS CABINETRY FOR YOUR FISH AQUARIUM SPIRIT ONLY A FEW THAT DO THIS IF NOT THE ONLY ONES.

THE COMPANY HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 1983 AND LOCALLY OWNED BY A CLAY COUNTY RESIDENT. THE COMPANY PREVIOUSLY UP UNTIL 2005 IS LOCATED JACKSONVILLE. WHEN SEE PURCHASE THE COMPANY RELOCATED WHERE HE HAS BEEN LEASING THE FACILITY.

I MET STEVE A LONG TIME AGO. AS HE LOOKED AT OPPORTUNITIES TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CHALLENGES HE WAS FACING OUT THERE.

MANY WERE THE ELECTRICAL ISSUES. THIS IS THE FACT THAT DURING COVID-19 YET 15-20 EMPLOYEES. COVID-19 COMES AROUND HE SAID WITH INFLATION WE SEE BRENT GOING UP.

WE HAVE SUCH A SHORTAGE AS YOU KNOW.

A SHORTAGE FOR WAREHOUSE FACILITIES AND SPACES COME THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT HOUSING AND PLANS WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW. LOOK AT IMPACT FEE ISSUES AND PEOPLE MOVING HERE. THE PROBLEM IS WE DON'T HAVE THE JOBS AND WE NEED MORE FACILITIES AVAILABLE.

STEVE IS NOW ON THE PRECIPICE OF HIS BUSINESS WHERE HE IS CONSIDERING OPTIONS SUCH AS CLOSING THE BUSINESS WERE MOVING OUT OF THE COUNTY SOMEWHERE WHERE THERE IS AVAILABLE SPACE.

HE'S TAKING A CHANCE HERE TO STAY.

I'M SURE THEY HAVE SPOKEN IN THE PAST ABOUT PLANNING AHEAD.

WHEN YOU START ADDRESSING THE FLU IN THE FUTURE.

SIXTEEN BETWEEN LANDING BOULEVARD AND 17 WILL BE IN THE CORRIDOR. I BELIEVE THAT.

I BELIEVE THERE IS DISCUSSION ABOUT WIDENING 16 OR PLANS TO DO THAT. YOU KNOW TRAFFIC IS ALREADY A PROBLEM. BUT IT IS A HUGE CONNECTION POINT AS WELL AS GOING TO THE PORT.

IF WE COULD HAVE ACCESS TO THAT. BUT THAT WILL BE KEY AND SANDWICHED BETWEEN THE TWO INTERCHANGES.

SEE PURCHASE THE PROPERTY. HE IS PROPOSING THE WAREHOUSE WE STARTED THIS DISCUSSION OVER NOT WANT TO PURSUE COMMERCIAL.

WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE STAFF. THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS ASSEMBLING CABINETS AND PET AQUARIUM SPIRIT STEVE SOLD THESE AQUARIUM FURNITURE'S TO PETCO, THE LARGE BRANCH YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH.

THE CABINETS WILL BE STORED IN THE FACILITY AND LOADED ONTO DELIVERY TRUCKS. WE HAD THIS ON THE FRONT SIDE TO FIND THIS AESTHETICALLY ATTRACTIVE.

WE PUT THE TRUCKS IN THE BACK. YOU ARE LOOKING AT A FACILITY OF EIGHT EMPLOYEES. CURRENTLY HE IS DOWN TO THREE.

BUT HE WILL CREATE FIVE NEW JOBS OPENING TO GET BACK TO FIVE.

THIS IS GOOD FOR RETAIL. WE WORK WITH STAFF ON THE BUFFERING AND THE COSTS OF GOODS AND SERVICES NOWADAYS THERE IS A REQUIREMENT. WE WORK WITH STAFF TO CREATE SOMETHING BETTER AND HAVING THE FLEXIBILITY HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC AND STAFF AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THAT WILL BE TOUCHED ON TO HAVE A FENCE AROUND THE PROPERTY THAT HAS 80% CAPACITY AS WELL AS A LANDSCAPE BUFFER WITH TREES AS WELL. KNOWING THERE IS A ARE ADJACENT TO US. THIS WAS ONE PIECE OF A LARGER PARCEL THAT MR. TYLER PURCHASE. ORIGINALLY WE WERE TRYING TO TRY TO DO THE ENTIRE THING. HE DOES HAVE ACCESS.

THIS IS AN EXISTING EASEMENT. THAT WILL STILL BE RETAINED

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YOU ARE TALKING TO TRUCKS PER WEEK THAT WILL COME IN AROUND 5:00 P.M. THEY STOP IN 15-30 MINUTES AND THEN ON THEIR WAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TRUCKS SITTING THERE IDLING. TRAFFIC, YOU'RE TALKING MINIMAL TRAFFIC WITH TWO TRUCKS COMING IN PER WEEK ON THAT ROAD.

LITTLE OR NO CONTRIBUTION TO INCREASE TRAFFIC.

CLAY HIGH IS NEARBY. THE ACTIVITIES I MENTION THIS IS WHERE WE NARROWED IT DOWN TO CABINETRY.

AS WELL AS WAREHOUSING. BOTH USES, IF YOU LOOK TO THE WEST YOU HAVE A CONCRETE FACILITY THIS IS SOMETHING I HOPE THE COMMISSION WILL ADDRESSING THE FUTURE TO ENCOURAGE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.

WE CAN FIX THIS PROBLEM SO IT'S NOT CONFIDENT WITH COMMERCIALIZATION AND SHOPPING CENTERS.

SO, OVERALL, I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

AND HOPEFULLY GET YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO THE

RESIDENT NEXT DOOR NEXT DOOR. >> WE HAVE NOT.

STEVE I DON'T KNOW HAVE YOU? >> NO.

>> HE KNOWS HER,. >> AND THERESA MAY KNOW THOSE

NEXT-DOOR TOO. >> I DO WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS. I DO HAVE A CONCEPTUAL ELEVATION IF YOU WILL. OF WHAT HE ENVISIONS THE PROPERTY TO LOOK LIKE. IF I COULD PASS THESE UP TO YOU.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. SO, MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW THIS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT OTHER BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN THERE.

HOW DID THEY GET AROUND THIS. I CAN SEE THE GAS STATION HAS IT ON BOTH SIDES BUT WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER?

>> IT PROBABLY PREDATES THE POLICY THAT WOULD BE MY GUESS

BUT I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. >> PROBABLY NOBODY HERE KNOWS.

>> I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

>> QUICK QUESTION. I THOUGHT THERE WAS A DRIVEWAY ON THIS PROPERTY AND ONE OF THE PARCELS.

SO, SHE MENTIONED THIS AND WE WENT BACK AND FORTH ON E-MAILS.

SHE WAS BASING IT ON THE AERIAL ITSELF.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION. GIVES ALL OF US AND DEVELOPMENT, THIS WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF UPSET CONSTITUENTS.

THE SURVEY YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET DOES NOT PROVIDE OR INDICATE ANY FROM OUR PARCEL SO IT IS NOT A CONCERN TO US.

BUT WHAT MR. TYLER SAID, THEY ACTUALLY PUT THE SHED ON THE EASEMENT THAT SHOULD'VE BEEN THERE.

SO THEY WERE DRIVING AROUND. THEY IMMEDIATELY MOVED THE SHED WHICH IS NOT IN THE CURRENT AERIAL.

THEY MOVED IT BACK TO WHERE IT BELONGS.

>> >> A POLICY THAT WILL HURT BUSINESS HERE IN CLAY COUNTY. WE HAVE COMMERCIAL RIGHT THERE.

SOMEHOW THEY GOT GRANDFATHERED IN.

WE DEVELOP RULES THAT PROHIBIT A PIECE OF LAND.

>> MY OTHER CONCERN WAS THE NOISE HAVE BUSINESS THERE AND AN

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CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG I DON'T THINK YOU WILL HAVE A LOT OF

NOISE COMING FROM THIS FACILITY. >> THIS IS THE ONLY THING GOING

TO BE ON THE PROPERTY? >> IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN. LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN.

GO BACK. IT COMES OFF 16 AND PULLS THROUGH THE BACK HERE THERE IS ENOUGH ROOM FOR THE TRUCK TO MAKE A COMPLETE TURNAROUND. YOU WILL SEE THE DIAGRAM ON THE

RIGHT. >> I THINK THIS MAY HAVE BEEN A

MISTAKE. >> KRISTER DID YOU EVERYTHING.

>> WHAT DOES THIS USUALLY RUN A STUDENT?

>> WE CAN SEE HOW ANTIQUATED THIS IS AT THIS POINT.

YOU GO FROM 18-15 EMPLOYEES DOWN TO THREE.

ARE NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT TO DO BUSINESS HERE IN CALAIS, WHICH WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.

HOW DO WE FIX THIS, SO HIS INTEREST IS NOT HARM.

>> HOPEFULLY THEY HAVE A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

AND THAT WAS THE TOPIC. >> YOU HAVE UNTIL JUNE OF NEXT YEAR? HOW DO WE FIX THAT?

>> >> THIS TERRIBLY ANTIQUATED.

IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED.

WE DON'T HAVE THIS AS IT PERTAINS TO USES LIKE THIS.

>> THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICY.

BOTH ARE IMPACTED BY THE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS REALLY COMMERCIAL. IT SERVES A VERY IMPORTANT PURPOSE. OTHERWISE, IF WE DON'T HAVE A POLICY SIMILAR TO THAT, WE WIND UP WITH THE SLOW SPRINT OF COMMERCIAL DOWN THE RUNWAY. THE REASON THAT IS AN ISSUE BESIDES THE DEFINITION IS THE ROADWAYS NEED TO HAVE A A CERTAIN FLOW. AND IF YOU HAVE A DRIVEWAY FOR EVERY BUSINESS FOR EACH PARCEL AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL USAGE YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE TURN LANES WHICH SLOWS DOWN YOUR CAPACITY. YOU BECOME BOUND, AND WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF COMMENTS OVER TIME, I KEEP HEARING WE DO NOT WANT THE SPREAD LIKE AT THE NORTH END OF BLANDING, WHERE WE HAVE THIS LONG STRIP OF COMMERCIAL AND WE WANT THAT BROKEN UP.

IT IS A POLICY TO PRESERVE IT ON THE ROADWAYS TO ALLOW FOR THE TURNING AND ADD INTERSECTIONS TO CHANNEL THE SPIRIT THERE WILL BE THE ODD CIRCUMSTANCE THAT DOESN'T FIT THE MOLD.

AND MAYBE THIS IS ONE OF THEM. >> I DON'T AGREE BECAUSE, WHERE I LIVE, STATE ROAD 21 IS A LOT OF THE LAND.

AND WHAT I DON'T LIKE, BUT TOLD PLACE, AND TURN INTO, IT LOOKS

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IT LOOKS TERRIBLE WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING SOUTH.

AND WHAT THE KEYSTONE PEOPLE WOULD SAY IS THE COUNTY DOESN'T CARE. YOU CAN PUT IT THERE AND NO ONE CARES. LISTEN AS A FELLOW BUSINESS OWNER I AGREE. WE NEED TO DO MORE BUT I DON'T BUY WE HAVE TO HAVE A POLICY SO WE DON'T HAVE THIS HAPPEN.

DO WE WANT THIS TO BE FURTHER NORTH ON 21, NO.

BUT WE HAVE DEALT WITH THIS GOING WEST.

AND WE HAVE HAD THINGS COME UP THAT WERE NOT APPROVED.

AND WE HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH THEM.

I THINK MAYBE THEY DON'T ASK THE QUESTION.

THEY'RE ASKING THE QUESTION AND TRYING TO GO THROUGH THE CHANNELS. I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT ANSWER, AND I DO THINK WE NEED TO PROTECT.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE DEALING WITH LOCATIONS WE DON'T WANT THEM.

BUT WE ARE ALSO FINDING LAND ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL SO YOU KNOW, BUT WE CAN'T FIX ANYTHING ON 21 SOUTH.

THIS LOCATION, I DON'T KNOW. I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO CLEAN UP THE PAST MESSES, WE ARE TOO. I'M JUST SAYING THIS IS WHAT THE PUBLIC WOULD COME BACK AND SAY. WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THIS BEING OUR COMMERCIAL BUSINESS LOCATION.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULDN'T HAVE THIS.

>> I'M NOT SAYING COMMERCIAL IS A BAD THING.

THAT IS A GREAT PLACE. THIS IS REALLY WHAT THE POLICY IS AIMED AT. YET TO HAVE SHARED ACCESS.

YOU HAVE LIGHTS BACK CONTROL TURNING MOVEMENT.

>> MY UNDERSTANDING I SPOKE TO HIM.

THEY WANTED TO CONTROL THEIR EXPENSES.

I THINK, I DON'T KNOW. YOU ARE THE EXPERT, I'M NOT AN EXPERT BY TRADE. BUT.

>> WE ARE ABLE TO SAY WE DON'T AGREE.

WHICH IS WHAT ANY BUSINESS WITH DO.

YOU KNOW, WERE LOOKING AT THE VIOLATION.

WE NEED STUFF TO LOOK NICER. IF YOU GO FURTHER ON THIS ROAD ON THE SAME SIDE, I DON'T THINK THERE'S MANY HOMES.

AND AGAIN THAT AREA NEEDS TO LOOK NICER.

WE DO HAVE SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO COME IN AND MAKE IT LOOK NICE.

DEFINITELY STRUCK OUT, I DID LIKE TO SEE THAT.

BUT AGAIN WE COULD HEAR IT IF SOMEONE COMES BEFORE US.

>> IT IS PART LOGIC AS WELL. THIS WILL BE A FOUR LANE ROAD AT SOME POINT. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WE ARE AT

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WITH THE RIGHT KIND OF BUSINESS, WITH EVERYTHING ELSE 16 WILL LEAD OUT TO THE EXPRESSWAY AND IT WILL SEE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC.

THERE WILL BE BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE.

SO WE HAVE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION.

RIGHT NOW WE DO IT ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE WILL DECIDE HOW THAT WILL HAPPEN, SERVICE ROADS, MANY COMMUNITIES DO SERVICE ROADS BEFORE YOU GET TO THE BUSINESS AND TURN INTO THEIR DRIVEWAY.

WHATEVER IT IS, WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE THE BULL BY THE HORNS AND MAKE A DETERMINATION. IN THIS CASE I'M SORRY WE COULDN'T GO COMMERCIAL. BECAUSE YOU WOULD GET THREE DIFFERENT BUSINESSES THAT ARE SITTING THERE.

AND MAYBE HE CAN HIRE SOME HIGH SCHOOL KIDS.

BUT THIS IS A LOCAL BUSINESS. EVERY JOB COUNTS.

AND CERTAINLY WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT COULD GO.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE. I WOULD DEFER.

>> I NEVER OPEN THE PUBLIC MIRROR HEARING ON IVA CARD.

I APOLOGIZE BUT I NEED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I APOLOGIZE. WE GOT EVERYTHING OUT OF ORDER

ON THAT DISCUSSION. >> NOT SO BAD BECAUSE IT WAS

INTERESTING. >> PULLED THAT MICROPHONE UP TOWARDS YOUR MOUTH. THIS IS WHERE THINGS WERE.

I KNOW WHAT MY POSITION IS. THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT. I DO HAVE A PICTURE OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING AND CONSIDER IT COVERS THE FOOTPRINT OF THE STANDARD RESIDENTIAL LOT IT'S HUGE.

IT MAY NOT APPEAR THAT WAY FROM THE PICTURE BUT THIS IS THE SIZE OF A RESIDENTIAL LOT. THAT IS ONE THING.

AND I KNOW HE IS BACKED OFF FROM THE ORIGINAL DESCRIPTION.

MY QUESTION IS, DOES THAT APPLY TO HIM AND THE PERIOD IN WHICH HE OWNS THE PROPERTY OR SELL IT. DOES THAT CARRY SO WHEN THE NEXT PERSON COMES IN, IT STILL SITS WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

IS THAT WHERE WE ARE? I WASN'T FOLLOWING IT THAT WELL.

BASICALLY, THAT ALLOWS LIGHT AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.

SO THEY COULD PRETTY MUCH DO WHAT THEY WANTED TO.

THAT DOESN'T CARRY FORWARD DOWN THE ROAD.

THE THING I WOULD LIKE TO STATE. I UNDERSTAND THIS POSITION AS A BUSINESSMAN. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE USE OF THIS PROPERTY, WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE IS CALLED SPOT ZONING. I KNOW A GUY THAT HAS A PIECE OF PROPERTY WAITING TO HEAR WHAT THIS WILL BE LIKE.

HE WILL SAY IF HE CAN DO IT I CAN DO IT.

THAT MAY SHOW UP ON YOUR PLATE QUICKLY.

SO UNTIL YOU GET YOUR ARMS AROUND A LAND-USE PLAN.

>> I LIVE ABOUT A QUARTER OF A MILE.

I LIVE OFF OF THE ROAD. MAYBE IT WON'T BE AS EVIDENT TO

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THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANT TO SEE. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? HAVE NOT I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. DOTY, IF WE APPROVE THIS CHANGE, TO ANSWER HER QUESTION, WILL THEY BE LIMITED TO WHAT IS LISTED, NO MATTER WHO THE OWNER IS?

>> IT'S PART OF THE ZONING. SO THE LIST OF USES, ARE THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED UNLESS SOMEONE, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW THE BUSINESS TAKES OFF AND THEY WANT TO SELL, THEN THE PROPERTY, THEY MAY WANT TO HAVE A DIFFERENT BUSINESS USE TO REZONE IN ORDER

TO AMEND IT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND PERIOD.

>> MEMBER MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

>> ABOUT THE WAY I APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK.

I KNOW YOU'RE GOING BY THE RULES.

>> THERE NEEDS TO BE TWO SEPARATE VOTES.

YOU CAN'T DO THEM BOTH TOGETHER. >> I MOVED TO APPROVE LAND-USE

CHANGE. >> SO WE HAVE OF MOTION NANOSECOND, ANYMORE ON THE LAND-USE.

I SEE NONPARENT IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED. IT CARRIES 5-0.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE REZONING.

>> SECOND. >> MEMBER MOTION NANOSECOND.

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>> ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

IT CARRIES 5-0. >> ITEM NUMBER 32.

THIS IS AN COMMISSIONER CELLA'S DISTRICT IT IS A LARGE-SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO THE 2040 FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

IT WOULD CHANGE TWO PARCELS OF LAND FROM COMMERCIAL TO URBAN CORE, COMMERCIAL AND URBAN CORE TEND TO URBAN CORE 16.

THE COMMISSION VOTED 5-2 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> I WANTED TO POINT OUT THIS IS THE TRANSMITTAL HEARING SO FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS WITH THE LARGE-SCALE, IT COMES TO THE BOARD TWICE.

THIS IS THE FIRST OF THOSE TWO HEARINGS.

IF THE BOARD APPROVES MY ITEM IT WILL GO ON TO THE STATE AND STATE AGENCIES FOR THEIR REVIEW. THEY WILL PROVIDE COMMENTS AND WE WILL PUT THEM INTO A REPORT AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD AGAIN FOR ACTUAL APPROVAL OF THE ITEM.

SO TONIGHT'S APPROVAL IS JUST TO TRANSMIT THE ACTION.

THE APPLICANT IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

AND EAST OF TANGLEWOOD BOULEVARD.

THIS IS AN COMMISSIONER CELLA'S DISTRICT ONE.

TWO PARCELS. AND YOU'VE ALREADY STATED THE FUTURE LAND USE CHANGE, THERE IS A COMPANION REZONING THAT WILL COME ALONG LATER. WHEN THE COMMENTS COME WE WILL BRING IT BACK. REZONING IS ONLY ONCE.

IT CAN'T BE HEARD UNTIL YOU FOLD ON THE FUTURE LAND USE.

SO WILL COME BACK AS A PAIR. ON THE LEFT WE HAVE THE MAP AND ON THE RIGHT THE AERIAL FOR THE TWO PARCELS.

YOU CAN SEE THESE BEST RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS THE MUCH LARGER SLIDE. ON THE LEFT SIDE IS THE EXISTING LAND USE AND ON THE RIGHT IS THE PROPOSED.

YOU CAN SEE THERE IS COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE.

IT IS ABOUT A 300-FOOT DEPTH AND THE REMAINDER.

>> NEXT LINE. ON THE LEFT IS THE ZONING AND IT MIMICS THE FUTURE LAND USE. AND THERE'S TWO COMMERCIAL ZONINGS ON THE PROPERTY. BBN BB TWO AND A PUD IN THE

[04:10:04]

THERE'S UPLAND ON THE PROPERTY BUT ONLY ALONG THIS AREA.

>> THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL PLAN. IT HAS CHANGED SLIGHTLY.

BUT NEXT LINE HIS CURRENT. BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THIS BECAUSE IT SHOWS WHERE THE WATERWAY COMES THROUGH.

THERE IS A DITCH THAT TRAVELS BACK HERE AND SPLITS A BID.

THIS IS THE FLOOD ELEVATION AREA.

BECAUSE OF THAT, THE BUILDINGS ARE UP AGAINST LANDING AND THEY ARE SEPARATED BY THIS DITCH THAT RUNS THROUGH THE MIDDLE.

THIS IS THE CURRENT CONCEPT PLAN.

THIS IS THE ACCESS POINT. THIS IS TANGLEWOOD ON THE LEFT.

AND THE PRINCIPAL INTEREST IS SHOWN HERE.

WE HAVE THREE APARTMENT BUILDINGS INTO MORE THE OTHER SIDE. THERE WAS A GARAGE BUILDING AND PARKING IN THE MIDDLE. AND TO RETENTION AREAS IN THE AREA. IT WOULD BE A MARKET RATE AND THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND ONE CLUBHOUSE.

I BELIEVE IT IS THREE STORIES IN HEIGHT.

THEY ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE APPLICATION BE TRANSMITTED TO

DEL. >> WASN'T THIS SUPPOSED TO BE RV AND BOAT STORAGE DID WE LOOK AT THIS BEFORE?

>> THERE WAS HISTORY WHERE THE FRONTAGE WAS CLEARED.

>> YES HE GAVE UP HIS ZONING. I REMEMBER THIS.

>> OKAY. >> SORRY.

THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION. >> OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> HERE IS A SITUATION, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE ZONING.

I WANT TO GO BACK ONE MORE. THERE WE GO.

SO WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS COMMERCIAL.

ALL COMMERCIAL. NOW WE WILL CHANGE THIS.

TO PRESIDENTIAL. >> WHY WOULD WE PUT THAT IN

THERE. >> THEY WANT TO HEAR YOU.

>> MY QUESTION IS, WE HAVE COMMERCIAL ON BOTH SIDES AND WE HAVE DECIDED WE WILL THROW OFF THE COMMERCIAL PUT MULTIFAMILY.

ALSO IF YOU LOOK AT, I HAVE GRAVE CONCERNS OVER THE WATER ON THIS PROPERTY. I BELIEVE IT FLOODED BACK IN ARMAGH, AFTER WE LEARNED ABOUT PUTTING SOMETHING IN A FLOODWAY.

>> WHEN I HEARD THIS AND I SAW THAT I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT THE POOR PEOPLE AND THEIR APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND FLOODED BECAUSE THEY WERE OVER FLOODED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT CONSIDER IT WOULD BE A BIG FLOOD. KNOWING THAT GOING THEN, WHY ARE WE TRYING TO PUT THAT THERE. THAT WASN'T A QUESTION, MORE OF A COMMENT. I HAVE NOTHING ELSE AT THIS

POINT. >> I HAVE A FEW CARDS.

I WILL LET THE PUBLIC AFTER PUBLIC HEARING.

BUT DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> HOW IS THAT CONSIDERED COMPATIBLE?

>> ALL OF THE DARK BROWN, EVERYWHERE AROUND THERE, AT THIS

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>> >> THE PROPOSED OVER THE WHOLE THING WILL CREATE A DENSE LAND-USE.

>> >> YOU WILL RECEIVE AN

APPLICATION NEXT MONTH. >> WE HAVE LOTS TO TALK ABOUT AS

FAR AS THIS UNIT IS CONCERNED. >> A ALL RIGHT I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M GOING TO ASK THE APPLICANT FIRST.

APPLICANT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK?

>> IF YOU WANT TO LIFTED HIGHER, THAT IS GOOD.

>> GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. MY NAME IS FACTOR.

ON THE URBAN PLANNER WITH THE TEAM.

SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF FRANKLIN. ORLANDO FLORIDA 32822.

THE WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

>> COMMISSIONER, I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT I'D CHIDED YOUR NAME DOWN THE RIGHT WAY. I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS HERE AND GETTING ANSWERS. SO, AGAIN, MY BIG CONCERN, WHEN WE PUT THE FLOODWAY MAP UP IT COVERS THE.

HOW CAN WE DISPOSE OF THE WATER SO IT DOESN'T GO BACKWARDS AND IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOODS BEHIND YOU.

>> THERE ARE TWO IMPORTANT THINGS TO CONSIDER.

THE FIRST IS AN EXISTING AND APPROVED PERMIT ON THIS SITE.

AND THE APPLICANT DOES NOT INTEND TO MODIFIED THAT.

ALL OF OUR DEVELOPMENT FITS WITHIN THE CURRENT AREAS DESIGNED BY THE PERMIT. FURTHERMORE UNDER THAT END PER FLORIDA LAW, THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO RETAIN WATER ON SITE AND RELEASE IT AT THE SO ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH IT AND RELEASE IT AT THE RATE EQUAL TO CURRENT CONDITIONS.

WE WILL NOT BE MODIFYING THOSE CONDITIONS.

SECONDLY PER ANY FEMA PERMITS AND FLOOD ZONES IS WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. WE ARE REQUIRED, TO HAVE THAT DEVELOPMENT A CERTAIN DISTANCE, I THINK IT IS 1 FOOT ABOVE THE FLOODPLAIN. WE HAVE TO PROVE TO FEMA BEFORE THE SITE PLAN THE NEXT STEP CAN BE APPROVED WE HAVE TO PROVE THIS WILL BE ABOVE THE FLOODPLAIN.

>> YOU SAID JUST 1 FOOT? >> YES, BUT ELEVATION OF THE BUILDINGS WOULD HAVE TO BE ABOVE WITH THE TEAM.

>> OKAY, I UNDERSTAND THE WATER ACTUALLY FLOWS AND THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION YOU THINK. IT GOES OUT AND UNDER AND MOVES NORTH FROM THERE, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> SO DOES THE WATER DO THAT NOW?

>> UNDER THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, THAT DRAINAGE DITCH, DRAINS NOR AND EVENTUALLY CONNECTS TO A SERIES OF CREEKS.

PER THE ST. JOHNS RIVER REQUIREMENT AS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE CANNOT NEGATIVELY IMPEDE THE RATE THAT WE CANNOT INCREASE THE RATE OF OUR CONTRIBUTION TO THAT FLOW.

WE MUST DO THIS BEFORE IT IS ALLOWED TO MOVE ON TO THE

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WETLAND. >> FORGIVE ME.

AND WE HAVE SEEN IT TOO MANY TIMES.

WHERE WE HAD SOMETHING UNDER CONTROL AS FAR AS BEING TOLD THEY HAVE THE WATER IN THE NEXT THINK YOU KNOW THE DEVELOPMENT IS FLOODING. DO WE HAVE THAT PROBLEM WITH NEW DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN? AND SHEDDING MORE WATER THAN THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO SUPPOSED TO.

AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE RECOURSE.

THAT WAS MORE OF A, THEN A QUESTION.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

>> WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.

PLEASE STAND BY FOR MORE. T, FIRST CARD TONIGHT IS FROM MR. BILL ROGERS. HE (.

>> HE TOOK HIS SWEATER AND MOVED HOME.

>> JAMIE CLAY. >> I AM SURE, I'M SORRY.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JAMIE CLAY ELEVATE 2838 TANGLEWOOD BOULEVARD. I HAVE SEEN THE IMPACT OF FLOODING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I HAVE THE PERMIT FROM THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT FROM 2019 WHEN THE ORIGINAL APARTMENT WAS PULLED. THERE IS A PROPOSAL IN HERE TO EXTEND THE PIPE THAT GOES UNDER LANDING BOULEVARD SO THERE IS CONSTRUCTION INVOLVED THERE THAT WILL TEAR UP BLANDING BOULEVARD AGAIN. WITH REGARDS, YOU CAN GO TO THE DRAINAGE DITCH, WITH THAT RIGHT BEHIND THERE, THERE IS AN AREA OWNED BY THE COUNTY THAT IS IMPROPERLY MAINTAINED.

SO WITH AN ADEQUATE DRAINAGE ON THIS SITE AS IT IS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT, THE WATER HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE AND IT WILL GO BACKWARDS TO THE AREA THAT IS IMPROPERLY MAINTAINED.

THERE IS A DRAINAGE DITCH. YOU CAN SEE IT.

THERE IS A BROWN SQUARE. RIGHT THERE.

SO THAT IS OWNED BY THE COUNTY. IF YOU WERE TO DO A GOOGLE MAP SEARCH IT IS ALGAE FILLED. YOU CAN'T EVEN TRAVEL DOWN THERE BECAUSE IT IS OVERGROWN. THE DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE A DISASTER BECAUSE OF THE FLOODING ALONG.

BUT WITH REGARDS TO THAT, YOU SEE ALL OF THE BREAD, THAT IS COMMERCIAL. WHO WANTS TO BUILD AN APARTMENT, LOOK OUTSIDE AND SEE GORDON CHEVROLET USED CAR LOT AND THE TRAVEL COMPANY THAT ORIGINALLY HAD THE RV SITE PLANS FOR THIS.

AT THE PLANNING MEETING, THE APPLICANT WAS CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THEY INHERITED THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THE GENTLEMAN WHO OWNS IT WAS GOING TO BUILD THAT PLACE ON THE SITE.

UNTIL I BELIEVE HE FIGURED OUT IT WAS A WETLAND IN ALL OF THE MITIGATION THAT WAS GOING TO TAKE PLACE TO MAKE THAT A SUITABLE BUILDING SITE. NOW HE IS OUT OF $1,000,000.50.

AND HE HAS TO RECOUP HIS FUNDS. SO LET'S BUILD AN APARTMENT COMPLEX BECAUSE THAT WILL GET US MONEY QUICK.

WITH REGARDS TO THE COMMERCIALIZATION WHO WANTS TO DRIVE DOWN LANDING BOULEVARD AND GO DOWN TO 295 THERE'S NOT ONE APARTMENT COMPLEX THEY ARE. THEY ARE ALL ONSET.

YOU ARE ABOUT TO APPROVE THIS LANGUAGE IS NOT EVEN HALF OF A MILE AWAY FROM THE PROPOSED SITE WHICH WILL ALSO PROVIDE 192 APARTMENTS, THAT AGAIN, WHY DO WE NEED ALL OF THIS.

THIS BEST PRACTICE SCHOOLS OVERRUN THERE.

VENTURE LANE AS TO BE BUS TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.

THE JUNIOR HIGH IS OVERRUN. THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE TO AN AREA WHERE THEY SEE IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ACROSS THE STREET NOT HAVING TO BUS THEIR CHILDREN MILES AWAY. THAT IS WHY I MOVED THERE.

>> RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> NEXT. >> HE (.

>> MARY, DID SHE LEAVE TOO. >> YES.

>> TIM PEARSON. >> HE ALSO LEFT.

>> AND THEY ALL HAVE A LOT TO SAY BUT UNFORTUNATELY OUR

[04:25:03]

MEETING HAS GONE LONG TONIGHT. >> JEFF WILSON.

>> YOU STAYED WITH US. >> I'M SURE THEY ARE ALL

WATCHING ONLINE. >> GOOD EVENING.

I KNOW WHY THE OTHER ONES PROBABLY LOVE.

WE ARE ALL ON THE PLANNING SIDE. AND A LOT OF THAT WAS ON THE TRAFFIC. MY CONCERN IS THE SAME AS HERS.

THAT DITCH WHEN IT RAINS, IT OVERFLOWS.

IT OVERFLOWS OVER TANGLEWOOD THEN GOES INTO THE RETENTION POND. THE OTHER PART THERE'S ANOTHER ONE. NUMBER 25.

THAT WAS ON JANUARY'S MEETING. THAT HAS 190 APARTMENTS.

TOWNHOMES AND CONDOS. DUPLEXES.

LIKE SHE WAS SAYING. ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE, ALL OF THOSE CHILDREN AND BY THE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO GET BUSTOUT. DO NOT STAIN.

THEY'RE ALL GOING TO LAKESIDE OR ORANGE PARK HIGH.

WE NEED TO KEEP THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IN OUR SCHOOLS. THAT IS ALL HAD TO SAY.

>> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. >> ANYONE ELSE WANTING TO SPEAK.

I SAW YOUR HAND GO UP FIRST. THEN WE WILL NEED EACH OF YOU TO -- ALL YOU HAVE YOUR CARDS. GREAT.

>> I AM SHARON. I LIVE AT 2767 CACTUS DRIVE.

I HAVE BEEN THERE FOR THE GOOD, BAD AND UGLY.

THE WATER AREA, LITTLE BLACK CREEK STARTS WAY BACK AT CAMP LANDING AND PEOPLE DON'T GET IT. WHEN IT FLOODS THERE, WE WILL FLOOD HERE. MORE IMPORTANTLY, THERE IS A RETENTION POND THAT STAYS FULL MOST OF THE TIME.

WHEN THE WATER GOES BACK INTO THE AREA, WITH EVERYTHING DOWNHILL, IT GOES BACK INTO THE WETLANDS AREA.

AND SEEPS THROUGH, IT COVERS JEFFERSON AVENUE AND FLOODS ALL OF THAT WHICH ACTS AS A FILTER BOOK GOES THROUGH COMES BACK OUT ON TANGLEWOOD, THERE ARE RETENTION PONDS THAT THEY OWN THIS IS JUST BEYOND THE SHOPPING CENTER.

SO THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING FOREVER.

THE WHOLE 40 YEARS I'VE BEEN THERE.

WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO DO ALL OF THAT BUT WHEN WE WERE AT THE PLANNING MEETING WHAT WE DID UNDERSTAND IS THAT, THERE IS NO SPACE AVAILABLE. MAYBE FOR KIDSO TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND SOME TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. THOSE ARE CRAZY NUMBERS.

YOU ARE TALKING 194 UNITS, THAT IS NOT FEASIBLE.

IF THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT HALF OF THAT NUMBER, OVER 55, TO BE WE COULD HAVE A CONVERSATION. BUT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK SO. AND THEY WANT TO PUT EVERYONE ON TANGLEWOOD BOULEVARD POURED TWO ENTRANCES ON THE LANDING.

THEY'RE SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 53,000 CARDS UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD, ARE YOU CRAZY.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THAT.

IT DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME BUT I AM JUST A CITIZEN AND A TAXPAYER. AND I PAY YOU GUYS.

AND THAT IS WHAT I HAVE TO SAY, THANK YOU.

>> NEXT. >> GOOD EVENING.

1271 INDEPENDENCE DRIVE. I HAVE LIVED IN MY HOUSE FOR 28 YEARS. MY HOUSE BACKS DIRECTLY UP TO THE TREE LINE WHICH IS SEPARATED BY A CANAL.

[04:30:01]

AS FAR AS TRAFFIC, IF THEY ARE HAVING AN EXIT OR ENTRANCE.WHICH IS WHERE THE GAS STATION IS. WITH A CLUBHOUSE WERE ABLE WHEN YOU TAKE A RIGHT TURN DURING SCHOOL TIME, TRAFFIC WILL BE BACKED UP. THAT LEADS THE THIS AVOIDS ALL OF THE TRAFFIC ON BLANDING BOULEVARD.

THIS IS ALREADY A SPEEDWAY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THAT HAPPENS WHICH I HOPE NOT, I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE WE PAY TO DECREASE THE TRAFFIC ALSO NO SIDEWALKS, SO CARS ARE FLYING DOWN AND IT WILL ADD TO THAT TRAFFIC LIGHTS, KIDS ON THE STREET WALKING THE DOG. THERE'S NO PLACE.

THAT'S AN ISSUE. AS FAR AS THE CANAL, YES, IT IS SLIGHTLY SMOKE. THIS DISRUPTED THE INTEGRITY OF THE LAND. YOU CAN PUT CEMENT THERE AND YOU HAVE DRAINAGE ISSUES FROM HERE TO WHO KNOWS WHERE.

THERE IS A BIG DRAINAGE PROBLEM. HURRICANE SEASON AROUND THE CORNER. AS FAR AS, IF THIS PASSES, THAT AREA, TWO DIFFERENT AREAS, THE WETLANDS, WILL THERE BE ANOTHER HEARING TO DISCUSS IF THEY HAVE TO GO BACK THERE.

THEY SAID THEIR INTENTION IS NOT TO GO THERE.

IF THEY HAVE TO COME OUT OF POCKET ARE THEY GOING TO COME OUT OF POCKET. AND IF THEY DO WILL ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING BE MADE. AND THE GAS STATION EXISTING THERE, IS NOT DISCUSSED. I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT WHAT IS

GOING ON WITH THAT. >> ANYONE ELSE?

>> HELLO. I LIVE AT 1273 INDEPENDENCE DRIVE. I'M A HOMEOWNER FOR THREE YEARS.

THE REASON WE BUY OUR HOUSE IT IS ALREADY BUILT.

MY HUSBAND AND I DECIDED TO GO TO THIS PLACE.

MY CONCERN IS ABOUT THE SCHOOL. THIS IS A NICE SCHOOL.

MY CONCERN IS HOW MANY WILL GO THERE.

THIS IS AFFECTING HOW THE SCHOOL IS RUNNING AND WHAT TYPE OF PEOPLE WILL LIVE IN THOSE APARTMENTS.

THAT IS MY CONCERN. SHE'S MY NEIGHBOR.

WE GO TOGETHER. I DON'T FEEL SAFE IF THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD SOMETHING THERE. I AM FROM A COUNTRY, I WANT TO FEEL SAFE. MY CONCERN, I AM OPPOSED TO THIS

ONE. >> ANYONE ELSE.

>> IF ONE OF YOU WOULD COLLECT THE CARDS I THINK ALL OF YOU

HAVE SPOKEN. >> HELLO MY NAME IS TONYA MILLS.

MY HOUSE GOES UP TO THE CANAL. WHEN IT RAINS, IT POURS.

WHEN IT RAINS, IT FLOODS. WHENEVER WE HAVE THE HURRICANES, THE CANAL IS NOT TAKEN CARE OF AT ALL.

SO THE BACK OF OUR YARD, BASICALLY THE WATER GOES UP.

WHEN THAT HAPPENS YOU GET CREDITORS.

[04:35:04]

I REALLY, IT IS SAD TO SEE THE TREES GROW -- GO.

BUT WOODSIDE IS THE KIDS WALKING TO SCHOOL.

WHENEVER THERE IS NOT A LEFT TURN AT THE LIGHT, AND SCHOOL

I'LL. >> THEY WILL BUY AND BUILD AND

MANAGE THE COMPLEX. >> HILL POINT, FROM WHAT I READ THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF RAISING ALMOST $400 MILLION.

IS THAT WHAT THEY WILL PUT HERE? >> THAT IS CORRECT.

SO YOU BASICALLY HIT THAT FROM US BY NOT BEING HONEST IN YOUR

APPLICATION. >> NO, I DISAGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT. YOU CAN LOOK AT OUR DEVELOPMENTS. FOR INSTANCE, I WORKED DAYTONA DEVELOPMENT THAT RECENTLY OPENED, I BELIEVE THE CURRENT RATE IS $1,700 PER UNIT. THEY ARE NOT SUBSIDIZED.

[04:40:02]

THAT IS NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. >> OKAY, THIS IS WHAT YOU

CONSIDER TO BE MARKET RATE? >> HERE IS MY THOUGHT ON THIS.

AND AGAIN. WE DID THIS ONCE BEFORE.

I'M A LITTLE WEARY BECAUSE THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT THAT I CHANGED THE ZONING TWO. AND I CHAMPIONED THAT DURING THIS. CONSEQUENTLY HERE WE ARE PUTTING UP A NUMBER OF BUILDINGS. THREE-STORY BUILDINGS.

PUBLIC SAFETY, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THEY ARE NOT THRILLED WITH THAT INTENSE BUILDING SITUATION AND THAT AREA OF. WE JUST KEEP LOADING UP ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTER, WE HAVE COMMERCIAL ALONG BOTH SIDES.

THESE WILL BE SITTING ON SIX LANES OF TRAFFIC.

LOOKING OVER SOMETHING LESS THAN DESIRABLE.

YOU HAVE TO WONDER WHAT KIND OF QUALITY OF LIFE THEY WILL HAVE.

CERTAINLY FOR KIDS NO PLACE TO GO.

CAN'T TELL ME SO EVERYONE WILL BE AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

OH WE WILL BE 1 FOOT ABOVE WHAT FEMA SAYS IS THE FLOODPLAIN.

AND THIS IS SUPPOSED TO GO AS A TRANSMITTAL.

MY PROBLEM IS WHAT USUALLY HAPPENS THE STATE MAKES NO COMMENTS AND THE DEVELOPER BEATS US OVER THE HEAD AND THEY SAY YOU HAVE TO LET US BUILD THEIR. UNTIL WE GET MORE ANSWERS, I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF HAVING THEM CHANGE THE ZONING ON THIS.

>> OTHER DISCUSSION? I HAVE A QUESTION.

IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY WAS REALLY LOW. IN FACT IT WAS WETLANDS.

I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT WAS PERMITTED, DOES ANYONE KNOW. WERE TALKING ABOUT THE AREA BEING A FLOOD PRONE AREA. AND YET WE SOMEHOW, ABOUT THAT TO BE FILLED IN. THE WHOLE AREA WAS WETLANDS. TH.

>> NOW IT JUST LOOKS LIKE THE TREES WERE CUT DOWN.

IM JUST WONDERING HOW THAT OCCURRED.

IT OCCURRED OVER THE LAST 2-3 YEARS.

>> 2019. >> IS THERE DISCUSSION? WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT ITEM, A NUMBER OF WEEKS AGO, THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE UP AT A FUTURE MEETING.

COMMISSIONER YOU REALLY STRUCK ME TALKING ABOUT BOUT COMMERCIAL AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT APPLICANT IS WORKING ON GOING BACK AND PUTTING COMMERCIAL ON BLANDING TO KEEP WITH THE COMPATIBILITY. AND WHAT COMPATIBILITY MEANS IS, THAT IS WHAT COMMISSIONER CELLA WAS TRYING TO SAY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE RED. I HEAR YOU I PROMISE.

BUT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RED, AND WE SLEPT BROWN IN THE MIDDLE. THAT'S NOT THE INTENTION.

WE TALKED EARLIER, WE CHANGED AN ITEM TO MAKE IT MORE FRIENDLY.

[04:45:09]

WE DO HAVE A NEED FOR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.

I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT ANSWER, I KNOW I HAVE BEEN IN THEM, AND YOU DO HAVE SMALL CAFETERIAS, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I JUST WORRY ABOUT THE COMPATIBILITY ISSUE AS FAR AS WHAT IS THE MAIN CORRIDOR OF THE COUNTY.

ARGUE ON THE PREVIOUS ITEM AND I HEAR YOU ARE THIS ONE.

SO MY DISTRICT IS NOT ANYWHERE NEAR THIS BUT I HEAR YOU.

>> AGAIN, I THINK I USE THE TERM TO BE WHEN WE GROW UP.

WE SPEND TIME, ENERGY AND MONEY THAT IS SUPPOSED IS SUPPOSED TO BE COMMERCIALLY NOW WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO COME IN AND WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF ACRES IN CLAY COUNTY THAT WE CAN BUILD THESE APARTMENTS. WE NEED THEM.

NO QUESTION ABOUT IT BUT IT IS ABOUT SMART GROWTH AND THAT MEANS FINDING THE RIGHT ONE FOR THE RIGHT PRODUCT AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT ONE. WHETHER YOU WANT TO CALL IT COMPATIBILITY OR NOT KEEPING CHARACTER, I THINK WE HAVE COMMERCIAL WE SHOULD KEEP IT COMMERCIAL.

>> TO ADDRESS THE FLOODING CONCERNS.

I ALREADY SAW THE COUNTY MANAGER TYPING SO I THINK THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED AS FAR AS ANY COUNTY MAINTAIN PROPERTIES THEY WILL MAKE SURE THEY ARE TAKING CARE OF.

>> MS. DANIEL LEFT BUT SHE E-MAILED ME EARLIER WE TALKED ON THE PHONE. THE PROPERTY THAT SITS BETWEEN INDEPENDENT DRIVE IS NO LONGER IN BUSINESS.

>> THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE WE DEAL WITH.

IT IS A HEADACHE FOR COMMISSIONERS.

BUT AT ANY RATE THAT IS A SIDE NOTE.

>> I'M SORRY THIS DOESN'T PERTAIN TO THIS.

BUT THIS WAS MY DISTRICT NOT TOO LONG AGO.

AND THEY HAD TO E-MAIL ME. AND I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU SAY THE COUNTY DOESN'T THINK ABOUT YOU WILL REFER NOT ABOUT YOU, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THE ENGINEER LET ME KNOW THERE ARE THINGS GOING ON THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT SO DON'T THINK YOU HAVE BEEN FORGOTTEN AND OF COURSE YOU HAVE A

WONDERFUL COMMISSIONER NOW. >> WE HEAR YOU, AND THEY ARE

MOVING. >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> ARE MOVED THAT THE BOARD DENY THE MOVE TO CHANGE THE FUTURE

LAND USE MAP OF THAT PARCEL. >> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> I SECOND THAT.

>> LEVEL OF MOTION AND THE SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> ALL IN FAVOR OF DENYING THIS CHANGE OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP LARGE SCALE AMENDMENT INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES

[18.  Discussion of the Clay County Fairgrounds Utility Improvements Project (G. Price)]

4-1. >> OKAY WE ARE MOVING BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 18 THIS IS A DISCUSSION OF THE CLAY COUNTY UTILITY DEPARTMENTS AND THEY SAY WITH THE SPIRIT CLAY COUNTY UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT. MR. PRICE.

>> JEAN PRICE. CLAY COUNTY FACILITIES ITEM NUMBER 18. THIS REGARDS TO BID-10 WHICH IS A CLAY COUNTY APPROVAL AS WELL AS AN ORDER FOR US TO HOOK UP TO

[04:50:01]

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. PRICE? >> WE DO HAVE WTI THEY WERE THE

RECORD FOR THIS. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR CC UA OR WTI? NOBODY HAS A QUESTION BECAUSE

THEY STAYED. >> DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU

WANT TO ADD TO THIS? >> I WILL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO

TALK. >> GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO YOU THIS EVENING.

WE VERY MUCH WANT TO SUPPORT THE FAIRGROUNDS.

THE DISCUSSIONS GO BACK TO 2,009.

I WILL SAY THERE WERE SOME INTERESTING READING GOING BACK THROUGH THE FILES BUT WE ARE INVESTED IN WANTING TO MAKE THIS A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT. ONE OF THE THINGS, THERE IS A PAUSE WITH THE REJECTION TO THE BID.

WE THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR PARTNERS TO LOOK AT A COLLABORATIVE PROJECT FOR UPSIZING THE STATION WHERE THE COUNTY COULD PARTICIPATE IN AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR A BIGGER PICTURE. I THINK THAT IS VERY POSITIVE FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL AS CCUA. AS FAR AS THE OTHER QUESTIONS IT WAS A TEMPORARY FACTOR OF SAFETY, THE PETERS CREEK FACILITY IS OUT FOR BID IN MULTIPLE PACKAGES.

THAT WE ARE ABSOLUTELY COMMITTED TO HAVING THAT PROJECT ONLINE.

FOR CURRENT CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE THAT WAS ANTICIPATED BY THE ENGINEERS IS THE BEGINNING OF 2025.

OBVIOUSLY THAT IS SUBJECT TO SUPPLY ISSUES AND LABOR ISSUES THAT WE ARE ALL EXPERIENCING. THAT PROJECT IS ABSOLUTELY MOVING FORWARD. WE HAVE TO COMPLETE THAT PROJECT

>> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

THANK YOU. >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> I MOVE APPROVAL. >> REJECTION OF THE BID.

>> YOU WOULD LIKE TO REJECT THE BID.

>> CORRECT. >> HOT ITEM NUMBER 19 ADVANCE

[19.  Advanced Payment for Annual Subscription related to Agreement No. 2021/2022-196, OpenGov Software Services Agreement (T. Nagle / K. Smith)]

OF 41,000. >> WE ARE USING THE BIDDING SYSTEM. THIS IS THE REPORTING WE GET BACK ON THE INFORMATION WE CAN PROVIDE.

THE SYSTEM IS WORKING WELL. >> SO WE HAVE A TRIAL PERIOD.

>> IMPLEMENTATION AND STARTING. THIS IS THE ANNUAL SUBSCRIPTION

AMOUNT. >> I WANT TO INDICATE NOT ONLY

[04:55:14]

>> HAVE YOU HAD ANY RESPONSE FROM VENDORS?

>> WE HAVE. IT HAS BEEN POSITIVE SO FAR.

MOST PEOPLE LIKE IT. THEY SAID IT WAS EASY TO USE.

WE HAVE TWO BIGGER RFPS WE ARE EVALUATING THROUGH THE SYSTEM SO THAT WILL BE NEW TO US IN WE ARE EXCITED.

>> MOVE APPROVAL OF THE PAYMENT. >> REV A MOTION IN A SECOND.

[20.  Agreement with Bright Minds Youth Development, Inc., SWEAT Program Services (G. Gunn)]

IT CARRIES FIVE HUNDREDS -- 5-0. ITEM NUMBER 20.

SO RECENTLY, WE BROUGHT A BIDDING WAR TO YOU FOR THE SWEPT PROGRAM FOR MENTORING AND TUTORING.

THE AWARD WAS MADE AND I WERE FOLLOWING UP WITH THE AGREEMENT FROM THIS. ONE THING THAT CAME AND WE INCLUDED IN THE AGREEMENT IS OUR CURRENT PROGRAM DIRECTOR IS RETIRING. THAT WAS RICK CURTIS.

SO WE DID THINK ABOUT BRINGING THE SERVICES IN-HOUSE AND THE POSITION WAS ADVERTISED AND NO ONE QUALIFIED APPLIED.

SO BRIGHT MINDS PROVIDE SO THEY ARE QUALIFIED.

WE WENT AHEAD AND ADDED THOSE SERVICES INTO THE AGREEMENT.

AT THE SAME RATE WE HAD BEEN PYING $60 AN HOUR.

WE HAVE WAIVED THE POLICY AND THE PASS BECAUSE IT IS UNIQUE, WE ARE ASKING YOU TO DO THE SAME AND ADD IT TO THIS AGREEMENT.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR KAREN? >> I JUST WANTED I JUST WANTED

TO C'EST -- GO AHEAD GO AHEAD. >> I'M JUST GOING TO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY WHEN I WAS A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER TO MEET WITH HIM PERSONALLY. WHEN HE WAS FIRST STARTING HIS PROGRAM, IS TUTORING AND MENTORING.

HE HAS A PHENOMENAL HEART FOR KIDS AND JUST WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I THINK HE DOES A GREAT JOB.

>> I WAS CURIOUS AS TO THE LOCATION AND WHEN WE DO THE

MENTORING. >> IS DIFFERENT WITH EACH KID.

WE MEET THEM AT A PUBLIC LOCATION.

IT IS WHATEVER THE FAMILY IS COMFORTABLE WITH AND WHATEVER

ARRANGEMENTS THEY MAKE. >> OKAY, ANYTHING ELSE FOR KAREN? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE AT THE MENTION RATE AND WAIVE THE

PURCHASING POLICY. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE

[21.  Approval of Interlocal Agreement between Clay County and the Clay County Utility Authority regarding Road Work and Utility Work for the Improvement of Sandridge Road]

IT CARRIES 5-0. >> ITEM NUMBER 21 APPROVAL OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN CLAY COUNTY AND THE CLAY COUNTY UTILITY AUTHORITY REGARDING WORK FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF SANDRIDGE

ROPE. >> ACTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO US TO DEFERRED THIS UNTIL THE JANUARY MEETING.

THEY ARE STILL LOOKING AT IT IN THEIR BOARD MEETING IT'S COMING UP IN A PLEA THEY CAN EVALUATE IT THEN AND THEN WE WILL BRING

IT BACK AFTER THEY REVIEW IT. >> TELL THEM WE LIKE BEING

PARTNERS. >> WE NEED A MOTION TO CONTINUE?

>> NO. >> JUST KIDDING.

[22.  Multipurpose Youth Sports Complex Project]

>> THIS IS AN UPDATE FROM A FEW BOARD MEETINGS AGO.

REGIONAL PARK AND THE DIRECTION THE BOARD GAVE TO ME AND THE STAFF. THIS IS A NEW UPDATED SCHEMATIC.

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>> THIS MAXIMIZES THE FOOTPRINT OF THESE FIELDS AND THE REQUIREMENTS WITH THE GRANT TO FULFILL AND THE GRANT.

IT WAS A 3 MILLION-DOLLAR MATCHING GRANT.

WE USED APPROXIMATELY 2 MILLION DOLLARS TO PURCHASE IT.

FROM THAT BACK TO YOU. THE BILL IS READY.

>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BILL CRANE.

I'VE LIVED HERE FOR FIVE YEARS NOW.

I WANT TO THANK YOU, MATT WANTED TO BE HERE BUT HE HAD A CONFLICT

AND HE APOLOGIZES. >> WHEN WE STARTED THE PROJECT, WE WANTED TO CREATE TEN FIELDS FOR YOU GUYS.

THAT WAS THE GOAL. UNFORTUNATELY THERE HAS BEEN CHALLENGES TO THE SITE. WE HAD A LOT OF SITE CONDITIONS THAT WERE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE ANTICIPATED.

THAT WAS WITHIN 1-2 FEET OF THE SITE.

MANY WERE AT THE SURFACE WHEN WE WENT TO SURVEY.

THIS GROUP TO THREE AND A QUARTER ACRES.

AND NOT JUST THERE BUT THE INCONVENIENT LOCATION SPIRIT THAT IMPACTED OUR DESIGN A GREAT DEAL WITH THE DRAINAGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. ALONG WITH THAT, WITH EVERY OTHER PROJECT YOU ARE HEARING ABOUT, THE PRESSURES FROM THAT IMPACTED THE BUDGET. AND REQUIRED WE HAD TO LOOK AT MULTIPLE ITERATIONS TO MODIFY THE SITE TO MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF DIRT WE COULD USE AND MINIMIZE THE DIRT WE WOULD HAVE TO IMPORT TO THE SITE. AS WELL AS MINIMIZING THE IMPACT TO THE WETLANDS. THIS HAS BEEN A BIG SAVINGS FOR US. WE DO HAVE TO COVER THE COST TO TRANSPORT AND SPREAD THE DIRT ON OUR SITE BUT THAT WILL HELP WITH THE OFFSETS TO GET THE FIELDS WHERE THEY NEED TO BE TO DRAIN PROPERLY. AS SHE MENTIONED THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE THE BOARD APPROVE THE REQUEST TO GO FOR THE TIME EXTENSION. AND PART OF THAT WAS FOR US TO GO OUT, AND MINIMIZE THE COST AND MAKE SURE WE WERE GIVING YOU THE MAXIMUM DESIGN FOR THE BUDGET WE COULD.

AND PUT THE PROJECT BACK OUT ON THE STREET.

WITH THAT SAID, ONE OF THE OTHER REQUESTS, WAS TO PURSUE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS. THAT IS AND THAT IS WHAT WE WILL DO TONIGHT. AFTER THAT MEETING, HOWARD AND HIS TEAM REALLY CHALLENGED OUR DESIGN TEAM TO IDENTIFY AND PURSUE ALL OF THE POSSIBLE OPTIONS THAT WOULD MEET THE LONG-TERM OBJECTIVES FOR THE COUNTY.

TO INCORPORATE THE LESSONS LEARNED FROM OTHER PROJECTS AROUND THE REGION. AND DO IT WITH THE MOST

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THE WE ARE VERY INVESTED IN THIS PROJECT.

WE WANT THE BEST FOR THIS. WE ARE PARENTS.

AND WE ARE INVOLVED WITH COMPETITIVE SOCCER IN OUR FAMILIES. SO WE SEE A LOT OF THE INEQUITIES OF THE FACILITIES WHETHER THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND GAMES THAT ARE CANCELED AND TOURNAMENTS IMPACTED.

PEOPLE HAVE MULTIPLE KIDS PLAYING AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS FIELDS. THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE HAVE SEEN THAT FIRSTHAND. WHEN WE COME TO YOU AND WE WANT TO GIVE YOU THE BEST THAT IS WHAT WE TRIED TO DO.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS WHAT WE ARE PROVIDING FOR YOU.

SO THE TEAM HAS ASSESSED THE PROJECT FROM EVERY ANGLE.

AND COMPARED IT TO PROJECTS THAT ARE IN DESIGN OR HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED IN THE STATE. TO MAKE SURE OUR DESIGN AND SPECS ARE EFFICIENT AND MAINTAINING THE QUALITY THAT I THINK YOU DESERVE FOR THIS REGIONAL PARK PROJECT.

SO, WITH THAT SAID, WHAT WE HAVE DONE WE HAVE CREATED TWO OPTIONS FOR YOU. THE FIRST, AND I WILL SHOW YOU THE GRAPHICS. BUT THE TWO OPTIONS YOU HAVE ON THE SPREADSHEET, THE FIRST IS FOR A FIVE OF FIELD LAYOUT THAT IS BUDGETED FOR $5.227 MILLION. AND THEN THE SECOND OPTION IS TO ADD MORE TO THAT. FOR A TOTAL OF JUST OVER THE $7 MILLION. AND THERE ISN'T ALTERNATE LISTED FOR A COUPLE OF PAVILIONS AND WINGS EXTENDED ON THE RESTROOM.

I WILL TOUCH ON THAT IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES.

>> AND FOR YOUR CONFIRMATION AND CONFIDENCE, WE SENT THIS OUT FOR PRICING FOR SEPARATE TIMES. THE MOST RECENT PRICING WHEN WE SEND IT OUT WE HAD MANY SUBCONTRACTORS.

AT THE SAME TIME WE PUT OUT WE TRY TO INCORPORATE THE DIRECTIONS WITH THAT SAID, IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

>> WERE EXCITED TO SHOW YOU WHERE IT STANDS RIGHT NOW.

THE TIMBERING HAS BEGUN. WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS THE VIEW FROM STATE ROAD 21. LOOKING EAST TOWARDS PHASE ONE AND WON A AND 1B. OF THE SITE.

THE LARGER AREA IN FRONT OF YOU IS WHERE THE INITIAL FIELDS WILL

BE GOING. >> THERE IS ALSO AND THIS IS BEING FINALIZED BUT THAT IS GOING BACK TO THE COUNTY AS WELL. NEXT LINE.

SO,. >> THESE ARE ABOUT 80,000 SQUARE

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THEN TIES BACK AT THE TOP OF THE SECOND POND.

AND CONNECTS TO THE SIDEWALK BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT AND THE PONDS THERE. THIS LOOP WITH THE SIDEWALK THIS .77 MILES. THE PARKING LOT WHERE YOU SEE THE DASHED LINE DIVIDES THE AREA OF THE LOWER LOT IS FOR THIS SECTION. AND THAT CONTAINS 251 PARKING SPACES AND WE ESTIMATE MORE THAT WILL BE ALONG THE ROADSIDE THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 55 PER FIELD. I THINK THE CODE MINIMUM IS 30.

WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD ON THAT. ALSO, JUST BETWEEN THOSE TWO PONDS IS THE RESTROOM FACILITY. THE RESTROOM, THE WOMEN SITE HAS FIVE TOILETS. THE MEN HAS TWO LABORATORIES.

AND I WILL SHOW YOU IN A SECOND WITH THAT STRUCTURE WILL LOOK LIKE. IT'S PRETTY COOL.

>> THERE'S ALSO IN THE BUDGET IT INCLUDES FABRIC AND THIS CAN BE 15-FOOT AND TRIANGLES. THERE'S ALSO 2500 FOOT DEEP WELLS TO PROVIDE WATER FOR THE RESTROOMS AS WELL AS FOR THE SEPTIC SYSTEM. THERE'S A FULL SEPTIC SYSTEM INCLUDED. THERE'S ALSO THE TWO STORM WATER

MANAGEMENT PONDS. >> EVEN THOUGH WE HAD LOW CONDITIONS THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF EFFORT PUT INTO MAKING SURE THESE FIELDS ARE ELEVATED AND THE DRAINAGE WILL RUN OFF TO GOOD LOCATIONS AND CAPTURE ON-SITE.

THEY WILL BE READY FOR PLAY AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.

THERE'S ALSO, THE FIELDS WILL HAVE A FULL IRRIGATION SYSTEM.

THERE IS LANDSCAPING. INCLUDING TREES AND SHRUBS AND SOUGHT AROUND THE SITE. THERE'S ALSO LIGHTING FOR THE ROADWAY ENTERING THE SITE AS WELL AS THE PARKING LOT AND THE RESTROOM. AND THERE IS A MONUMENT SIGN AT THE PARK ENTRANCE. SO THAT IS WHAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN PHASE ONE A, THIS HAS EXTENDED OUT FURTHER UP, TO THE EAST TO GET TO THE LAST FIELD OUT THERE.

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TO ADD THIS TOGETHER, THAT BUDGET IS RIGHT HERE.

>> ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE GOT WAS TO DO THE MAXIMIZE FIELDS WE CAN DO. WE'RE DOING AND DOING IT WELL WITH GOOD DESIGN AND A GOOD SOLUTION FOR THE BUDGET.

SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND THE EIGHT FIELD OPTION IF THE COUNTY CAN FIND THAT TO APPROVE IT. WITH THAT SAID, JUSTIN WILL ADD A FEW MORE COMMENTS AND WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. IS THERE A FLAGPOLE.

GLASSWARE FLAGPOLE. >> WE DIDN'T SHOW IT BUT IT IS

RIGHT NEXT TO THE SIDE. >> AT THAT IN MY NOTES FROM THE

LAST TIME. >> AND MATERIAL WISE THAT IS

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>> I DON'T MIND THAT. WHAT I'M THINKING OF IS, WE HAVE HAD OPPORTUNITY AND THE PAST TO POSSIBLY DO SOMETHING WITH CROSS COUNTRY CHAMPIONSHIPS THAT I'M LOOKING AT HOW TO MAXIMIZE WE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER WAY TO REPRESENTATIVE THEM. BUT THAT COULD CERTAINLY BE A

START. >> WITH THE THINGS THEY ARE ABLE TO DO THEY ARE POSTING TOURNAMENTS THAT CAN BRING IN 117 TEAMS TO COMPETE IN FLORIDA AND GEORGIA.

THEY ARE MAXED AT CAPACITY SO BUILDING THIS WILL ALLOW US TO EXPAND AND BRING OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES AND THE ORGANIZERS THAT ARE EAGER TO COME.

I WANTED TO PUT THAT IN THE PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT WE CAN DO COMPARED TO WHAT IS HAPPENING ACROSS THE STATE AND WHAT OUR

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SO THEY BROUGHT THAT CHAMPIONSHIP HOME AND THEY ARE PRACTICING AT A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK AT A MULTIPURPOSE FIELD.

WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THAT SMALL COMPLEX IMAGINE HAVING ONE BIGGER WHERE THEY CAN HAVE A PLACE TO BRING MORE THAN ONE TEAM AND NOT SHUT OFF THEIR PRACTICES AT 5:00 P.M. OR 6:00 P.M. BECAUSE THEY HAVE OTHER ACTIVITIES GOING ON.

>> LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. I HEARD A RUMOR THAT THE BIG COMPLEX, PRIVATE COMPLEX THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FILLED FELL THROUGH, THE FUNDING FELL THROUGH, HAVE YOU HEARD THAT?

>> NO HAVE NOT. >> IT WAS A RUMOR.

>> THE FUNDING FELL THROUGH WHEN THE SALES TAX --

>> OF THE COUNTY WAS GOING TO BUILD IT FOR THEM?

>> I DON'T KNOW, BUT SUPPORTING IT IN TERMS OF INFRASTRUCTURE

ROADS. >> YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT

ANYTHING ON THE RECREATION SIDE? >> GOOD EVENING.

I WILL KEEP THIS BRIEF. I DO WANT TO ADD ON TO WHAT JUSTIN SAID WITH THE EAGLE HARBOR SOCCER COMPLEX.

WE ARE PRIVILEGED TO HAVE THEM AS OUR PARTNERS BUT THEY ACTUALLY LEASE OUT TO OTHER FIELDS.

ONE IN JACKSONVILLE AND ONE IN GAINESVILLE TO HOST THEIR TOURNAMENTS. SO WITH A ROBUST, AS ROBUST AS WE COULD POSSIBLY GET THE SPORTS COMPLEX HERE IN OUR COUNTY TO BE, THE EASIER IT IS FOR THEM FROM A LOGISTICS STANDPOINT.

BUT THEN THE LEAKAGE FROM THOSE TOURNAMENTS BEING HELD IN OTHER COUNTIES. THAT MEANS THEY ARE SPENDING MONEY AT RESTAURANTS AND HOTELS IN THE OTHER COMMUNITIES INSTEAD OF OUR SPIRIT SO THAT IS JUST A LITTLE DISCLAIMER THERE, FOR THE SOCCER GROUP. WE'RE WORKING TO REALLY, ANYTHING FROM PAINTBALL COMPETITIONS TO LACROSSE, RIGHT NOW WE ARE WORKING ON A LACROSSE TOURNAMENT.

WE MAY HAVE TO SAY NO TO THAT GROUP YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO GET ONE MORE FIELD SO WE CAN POST THEM IN JANUARY. THOSE ARE THE OBSTACLES WE ARE FACING NOW, THAT THIS COMPLEX WOULD HELP ALLEVIATE.

>> QUESTIONS FOR KIMBERLY OR ANY OF OUR PRESENTERS?

>> I FORGOT TO MENTION, IF YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND I TOUCHED ON THE RESTROOM ACILITY. IT IS VERY UNIQUE.

IT IS A MOTIF. >> WE HAVE CREATIVE WAYS TO PROVIDE FACILITIES THAT ARE A CUT ABOVE DESIGNWISE AND TRYING TO BE EFFICIENT WITH THE BUDGET. ALTHOUGH THIS IS MODEST IN SIZE WE HAVE A BEAM STRUCTURAL DESIGN THERE.

THIS IS A VIEW OF THE BACK SIDE OF IT.

ONE OF THE OPTIONS WE PROVIDED AND THE PACKAGE AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SPREADSHEET SHOWS THE OPTION TO EXTEND THE RESTROOM TO PROVIDE A PAVILION SO IN THE EVENT OF INCLEMENT WEATHER THE TEAMS WOULD HAVE A NICE GATHERING SPACE.

THAT IS 25-30-FOOT ON EACH END. IN THE BUDGET WE HAVE THE

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THIS IS TO MAKE IT SOMETHING A CUT ABOVE THAT CLAY COUNTY CAN BE IDENTIFIED WITH. WERE NOT JUST PUTTING UP A BUILDING, WE ARE DOING SOMETHING NICE FOR THE COUNTY.

AND THE OTHER STRUCTURES, WE HAVE A MOTIF TO WORK FROM, TO GROW FROM AND MAKE EVEN BETTER. THE REST OF THE PHASES THAT WE SHOWED KENT BACK UP TO THE MASTER PLAN.

>> ALL OF THE AREAS IN GRAY, WE ARE PLANTING THE SEED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS. THIS WILL PROVIDE REVENUE AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COUNTY. THIS IS QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY. THAT WILL BRING PEOPLE IN LOCALLY TO DO A LOT OF THINGS. WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT, THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE

BOARD. >> VENDING -- PENDING ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I WANT TO THANK THE TEAM.

BILL HAS REALLY DUG INTO THIS. THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY. AND THE SHEET YOU HAVE SHOWS THE FIVE FIELDS AND THE BID OPTION FOR THE FIELDS.

BILL ALLUDED TO OVER $7 MILLION FOR THE EIGHT FIELDS.

WHAT HE HAS DONE IS SHOWED YOU THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BUDGET AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.

IF YOU LOOK AT THIS AMOUNT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS ONE, -- IF YOU WILL REMEMBER WE WERE COUNTING ON HALF OF A MILLION DOLLARS TO HELP US OUT WITH THESE CONSTRAINTS.

UNFORTUNATELY THE MONIES WERE REDIRECTED.

OUR DELEGATION KNOWS THAT. I SPOKE TO THE CENTER ABOUT THAT. THEY NOTE THIS WAS GOING TO BE OVER AND WE WOULD NEED HELP HERE IN THE FUTURE.

WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE TO THE BOARD IF THERE IS ANY MORE GUIDANCE, I THINK YOU HAVE HEARD THAT FROM THE TEAM, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A DECENT SIZE. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, I HAVE ASKED TROY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND LOOK AT THE DOLLARS TO AUGMENT THE COST OF THE BUDGET AND BOTH OF THE NUMBERS.

AND COME BACK TO THE BOARD MEETING ON JANUARY 10 AND BRIEF THE BOARD ON WHERE WE STAND HERE AND I KNOW THIS WOULD BE IN THE MIDDLE PART OF FEBRUARY AND WE TALKED ABOUT PROJECT TIMELINE THAT THEY COULD MAKE THE TIMELINE UNTIL THE END OF DECEMBER 2,023. I CAN TELL YOU, A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT HAS GONE INTO THIS TO DISPEL ANY UNKNOWNS.

EVEN THE SITE AND LAYOUT, HE IS PROBABLY ON HIS 12TH ITERATION BY BASICALLY GOING OUT THERE AND LEARNING THAT AREA.

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>> DOES ANYONE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT?

>> THE FINAL THING WAS, WE DID INCORPORATE, WE HAVE THE SALES APPEAR WE ABOUT WALKING. THERE'N TO HAVE THE RESTROOM AND WE WILL USE THE SALES TO ADD ON. LIKE ANYTHING, THE TEAM WHETHER

[23.  Technical Assistance Panels (TAPs) services offered by Urban Land Institute]

[05:42:03]

>> I THINK ALSO THE KEY IN TERM RETURN TO TALK ABOUT THE START THE END TIME IS OCTOBER OF 23. ARE THINGS WE WANT TO MOVE FORW IN TERMS OF A PLAN WE HAVE THE TO WORK TOWARDS PUTTING SOMETHI THE BUDGET. I KNOW ALEXANDER P NOT FULLY WITH ULI. IT'S OLDES LARGEST NETWORK OF REAL ESTATE LAND-USE EXPERTS IN THE WORLD.

ARE ALL PROFESSIONALS. THEY CO FOR 3 OR 4 DAYS. DID LOOK AT EVERYTHING THERE IS TO LOOK AT OF THE AREA THEN THEY COME UP W RECOMMENDATION PAST ON THEIR EX AND EXPERTISE AS TO WHAT E MIGH ABLE TO DO WITH SOMETHING. FOR PEOPLE BEEN TALKING ABOUT REDEV THESE FOLKS, THAT'S THEIR JOB A THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. COUPLE OF PLACES THEY DID IS ONE, THE CAT DISTRICT OF DOWNTOWN JACKSONVIL 3600 BLOCK AREA. 1800 ACRES TH TRANSFORMING THAT INTO WHAT IT' BE IN TERMS OF WHERE RESIDENTS LIFT, WORK AND PLAY. IF YOU WA USE THAT TERM. THEY ALSO DID G STREET WHICH IS THE MAIN CORRID CONNECTING 3 OF TALLAHASSEE'S M SIGNIFICANT INSTITUTIONS. STAT CAPITOL COMPLEX. FLORIDA STATE FLORIDA A&M. FAMILY AND THE GA STREET AREA IS VERY IMPORTANT O DEPALMA DOWNTOWN. THEY TURNED THE MIXED-USE. THE GROWTH WALK ABILITY. THEY'VE GOT THE APART AND RETAIL OUTLETS. AND THAT W PLAN THAT IS, BY ULI. WE THINK TALK TO THE NUMEROUS TIMES AND IT'S A GREAT WAY FOR US TO DO P WITH THOSE THINGS. WHETHER IT' GATEWAY TO CLAY. GIVE US SOME THAT WE HAVE BEEN THOUGHT OF. OTHER THING THEY DO AS PART OF PLAN IS A GIVE THEM IDEAS ON HO CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT UP AND GET FUNDING BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS PL JUST BE SOMETHING THAT SITS ON SOMEONE'S DESK BUT SOMETHING TH BECOMES A LIVING THING WHICH TU THE REDEVELOPMENT WE ARE LOOKIN THOSE AREAS. WHETHER IT'S HIRI WHATEVER. I THINK WE HAD ALL T HOTSPOTS IN THE COUNTY IN TERMS WHERE WE LIKE TO SEE THINGS HAP THAT'S WHAT WERE GOING TO FIND

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD OAKLEAF LIST. IT'S DEFINITELY A HOTSPO

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LOVE TO SEE THAT DISTRICT 2. NO OAKLEAF THOUGH, LANDINGS ON THI TOO. I NOT SURE HOW MUCH BECAU LANDINGS IS ON MY DISTRICT AS W

>> THAT'S VERY MUCH MORE THAN N END OF LANDING.

>> OKAY, DIFFLEY I'D LIKE TO SE. >> WE WOULD HAVE TO DETAIL THAT.

>> I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEEN DE ONE THING I WOULD SAY AS YOU KN MORE ABOUT THIS THAN I DID. I KNOW IF MAYBE I DIDN'T READ MY LISTEN WELL ENOUGH BUT, AGAIN, WAY MORE THAN I DO. WHAT I WIL THAT WHAT THE OTHER INITIATIVES COME FROM AND BLANDING WAS A LA LANDING IS A RECENT ADD BECAUSE RECOGNIZED THAT WE DON'T HAVE A FOR COMMERCIAL PEOPLE TO GO. A WERE GETTING REQUESTS FOR PEOPL DEVELOP COMMERCIALLY. ESPECIAL AS BARRY AND THAT KIND OF THING WERE SAYING BUT, WE'D LIKE YOU AND REDEVELOP WHAT'S ALREADY TH IS SITTING EMPTY. THAT'S WHERE CAME FROM. FOR THE OTHER 3 INI CAME FROM WAS GATEWAY TO CLAY A HIGHRIDGE INITIATIVE WERE BORN.

HIGHRIDGE INITIATIVE WAS BORN O COLLEGE DRIVE. GATEWAY TO CLAY KIND OF SEPARATE WAS DRIVEN MOR SHERIFF'S OFFICE ASKING US TO I FROM. THEY ALL TIE TOGETHER. BASICALLY THE COLLEGE DRIVE INI IS 2 YEARS AND. THAT HIGHRIDGE INITIATIVE IN THE GATEWAY TO CL NOT BEEN ACTUALLY ADOPTED BY TH OFFICIAL INITIATIVES YET. I NO HIGHRIDGE INITIATIVE IS COMING AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR. W COLLEGE DRIVE, GATEWAY 8 IS DIF COLLEGE DRIVE MARKS ARE DRIVEN COMMUNITY MEMBERS. NONPROFITS COUNTY GOT INVOLVED AS A SUPPOR SYSTEM. AND KIND OF, THEY BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS THROUGH TH KETTERING INSTITUTE. KETTERING FOUNDATION. IT'S A PROCESS TO THROUGH AND IT'S A DELIBERATIVE TO HAVE THE RESIDENCE AND THE B OWNERS PARTICIPATE IN COMING UP WANT TO DO. I'VE SET IT ON THE HIGHRIDGE INITIATIVE NOW FOR AL YEAR, 9 MONTHS OF THIS TEAM. W WITH THE RESIDENCE. I WILL SAY IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET THE RESID THE SAME TOPICS AT EVERY MEETIN STAKEHOLDERS WANT TO GIVE THEIR AND THEY WANT TO PARTICIPATE BU CAN'T SEE A VISION. ALL THAT I EXPLAINED THAT THIS PROCESS WOU PAINT A VISION. THIS IS NOT A DONE. THIS WAS SIMPLY JUST A, SAY WITH A COME BACK WITH IN TH AREAS. TO SEE FEASIBILITY. AN OUR ZONING AND IS WHAT WE ARE D WITH, YOU KNOW GATEWAY TO CLAY, SHERIFF'S OFFICE SAID WE WANT Y MAKE IT MORE OF WHAT USED TO BE WELLS ROAD. MORE BUSINESS FRIE THE APARTMENTS. A CONVERSATION SOMEONE WHO MOVED HERE WITH THE AND THEIR FIRST APARTMENT WAS O ROAD. IT WAS LIKE THE PLACE TO

KIND OF BRINGING THAT BACK. >> I THINK WE DID ADOPT GATEWAY BUT IT'S A REDEVELOPMENT TYPE INITIATIVE. TO REPLICATE THE

IMPORTANCE OF THAT AREA AS IT W THE PAST. >> I DON'T THINK ANY AGAINST OAKLEAF. I WOULD SAY F OUT A PROJECT THAT YOU COULD BE OF AND I WILL TELL YOU A LITTLE NOW THAT SHE'S ON COUNTY STAFF

WHERE YOU NEED TO SPEND SOME TI >> IF I MAY I THINK TO SEPARATE ISSUES A LITTLE BIT. THIS IS L PHASE. PHASE 1 GOT THE PROJECT STARTED. THIS IS LIKE A PHASE WHAT IS FEASIBLE. OUT OF THIS TO YOUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THEY WILL BE PART OF THIS PROCE THEN IT GOES THIS IS WHAT THE G SAYS IS POSSIBLE. DOES IT MEET CODE? HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS HAP THAT'S WHERE YOUR REDEVELOPMENT THIRD PHASE STARTS COMING IN IN REDEVELOPMENT. I WOULD CAUTION DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN OA THIS TIME. A, YOU HAVE THE MAS

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JUST STANDARD COUNTY ZONING. A THAT'S NOT MY SHOP. I WOULD CA IN GETTING INTO THAT MASTER PLA I COULD CREATE OTHER PROBLEMS A

POINT IN TIME. >> THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY GREG LIVES IN OAKLEAF, RIGHT? THAT DOES OUR DIALOGUE WITH RES WE DID PROBABLY OVER 200 STAKEH AND BUSINESS PEOPLE AND RESIDEN BUSINESS PEOPLE THAT WERE ON CO DRIVE EMPHASIS PEOPLE OFF COLLE DRIVE. AS A PROCESS YOU GO THR IDENTIFY SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE ARE AND WHAT THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES FEEL LIKE THEY ARE M IT'S A HOLE PROCESS. IT TOOK U A YEAR AND THIS IS WHAT HIGHRID GOING THROUGH. MY THOUGHT IS M TOGETHER WITH GREG TO HAVE YOU HIM EXPLAIN HOW WORKS AND MAYBE THAT STARTED AS A PHASE 1. DENS PECHOES. OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE THAT THERE, PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE A TO HAVE SOME THOUGHTS RIGHT AWA IS. THE DIALOGUE IS ON THE GRI SESSION. IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIF WE IDENTIFY AREAS WE THOUGHT NE IMPROVEMENT AND WHAT WE THOUGHT WANT. ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THIS IS NOT ENOUGH THINGS HAPPE COLLEGE PRIMARY. OUR GROUP GOT TOGETHER AND GABBY WAS PART OF THAT PUT FOOD TRUCKS ON THE MAP STARTING NEXT MONTH WE WILL HAV STRAIGHT MONTHS OF FOOD TRUCK N COLLEGE DRIVE IN THE PARKING LO THRESHER HORN CENTER. WE DID H LAW STRICTLY FOR AT THE END OF YEAR? 5? THAT AL CAME ABOUT B THAT'S WHAT THE RESIDENT SAID T MISSING. THEY TURNED OUT IN DR WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO PUT IT TOG WE HAVE NOT HAVE KNOWN IT IF WE TALK TO THEM FIRST. THIS IS NO TOP-DOWN THING. AND JIM AND HI

OF DONE THE SAME THING. >> GATEWAY EVOLVED AROUND SECUR PEOPLE DIDN'T FEEL SAFE ANYMORE THAT'S HOW WE GOT THE SHERIFF I WE BEEN DOING IT FOR I GUESS 2 NOW ALMOST. GIVE OR TAKE. WE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND COMMUNIT MEETINGS, WE HAVE 3 OR 4 WORKIN THAT ARE WORKING CHEMICALLY WIT CLAY RIGHT NOW.

>> YOU KNOW I THINK WE HAVE THE GREENE COVE SPRINGS. NONE OF T INITIATIVES ARE WE LEAVING. TH IMPORTANT THING. HOPEFULLY THA KIND OF THINK THEY ARE GOING TO BACK WITH. THIS IS NOT THE COU JOB TO GO FIX. THIS IS WHAT CA ATTRACT TO DO WHATEVER THIS IS.

>> I THANK YOU WILL I WILL GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS TO PROMOTE SOLV OF THESE PROBLEMS. COMMERCIAL I'M LOOKING FOR COMMERCIAL OVER LANDING OR WELLS. WHAT DO WE W LOOK FOR IN FUTURE BUSINESS DEV ALONG THERE? LANDING IS HORRIB HAVE SUCH A DESPAIR QUALITY OF BUSINESSES. IT'S UNBELIEVABLE. DESIGN AN OVERLAY OVER TOP OF L FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IT WILL CONSISTENT AND BE IN ACCORDANCE

YOU WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE. >> MAYBE WE COULD AVOID THE APA

COMPLEXES THAT WE LOOKED AT. >> HERE'S GAIN STREET RIGHT NOW THEY DID THEIR ULI AND THEY STA IMPLEMENTING IT IT'S ATTRACTED HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS OF PRIV INVESTMENT.

>> THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT. >> WHEN YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHE

NEED TO GO. >> GOOD STRATEGY.

>> ARMY GUARANTEED A PRODUCT FR

>> YES. >> SO, AND PROBABLY EACH OF MY COMMISSIONERS WOULD SAY THIS BU I DON'T WANT TO DISCUSS SPEND $ AND HAVE THEM COME BACK AND SAY AND HIGHRIDGE ALL YOU CAN DO IS HOUSES. ASK IF YOU DON'T MIND READ A STATEMENT OUT OF THIS.

ONE PAGER I COULD SHARE WITH YO ON.

>> IT SAYS EACH WORKSHOP BEGINS TOUR OF THE START STUDY AREA.

WITH THE PANEL GIVING A PRESENT THE CLIENT BEING THE BOARD AND THE PANELS OBSERVATIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. 6 TO 8 WEEKS REPORT IS DELIVERED TO THE CLIE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO COME THEIR STUDY. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE BRINGING THEM IN. I DO FEEL BA THIS YOU ARE GOING TO GET UND A RESULT THAT SAYS HERE'S WHAT WE

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>> PROBABLY COULD ANSWER THE QU FROM EARLIER ABOUT ZONING AND P BOULEVARD SHOULD WE CONSIDER CH TO APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND SOME OF IT OR NOT. RIGHT? THEY MAY THAT PROFESSIONAL OPINION.

>> WE DON'T KNOW. >> YEAH, WE DON'T KNOW. ANY OT QUESTIOS OR COMMENTS? DO WE NE VOTE ON THIS?

>> YES MA'AM. >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> I SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> A REQUEST THAT APPROVAL ALSO SURE WE INCLUDE THE COUNTY MANA

APPROVAL TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT. >> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT YOU SA

>> OKAY, JUST MAKING SURE. >> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I SECO

>> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE SECO FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING DO THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYI

>> I. >> ANY OPPOSE? IT CARRIES.

[COUNTY ATTORNEY]

>> COMMISSION AUDITOR NOTHING. ATTORNEY?

>> JUST QUICKLY I WANT TO LET Y LAST WEEK WE RECEIVED THE OPIOI PAYMENTS THAT WE WILL BE RECEIV THE YEAR ONE AND TO THE TOTAL A

RECEIVED FOR OUR COUNTY WAS 20 >> NOT NEARLY WHAT WE THOUGHT T

COULD BE. >> BUT THAT IN A SAVINGS ACCOUN

EVER TIMEWE HAVE TO SPEND IT IN >> NO. IT HAS TO BE SPENT ON J PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED AS PAR AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE.

[COUNTY MANAGER]

>> ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? ANYT ELSE? COUNTY MANAGER?

>> MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS. ITEMS TO BRIEF YOU ALL. WE WIL OFF WITH A QUICK REVIEW OF THE RANGE. WE'VE BEEN IN COLUMNS W FORESIGHT. THEY ARE THE CONTRA THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. A LOT HAS BEEN DONE OUT THERE. DAVE UNSUITABLE FILL DIRT FROM THE P THIS POSED A BIT OF A PROBLEM. PIVOTED OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTM RTI IS WORKING WITH ST. JOHN'S MANAGEMENT TO USE ADDITIONAL AR OBTAIN THE DIRT TO BUILD THE BE EVERYTHING IS IN LINE WITH REGA STATUTES AND REQUIREMENTS. IT' PROBABLY GOING TO LEAD TO A REQ AN EXTENSION BETWEEN NOW AND TH THE YEAR. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO B BY THE END OF DECEMBER. I'M ANTICIPATING THAT. THEY DID SU EARLIER ON IN A REQUEST FOR EXT IT WAS VERY MINIMAL IN TIME. D SUPPLY CHAIN. I JUST WANTED TO YOU A HEADS UP ON THEM. THEY'R GROWING VERTICAL. WITH REGARDS SHOOTING LANES IN THE AREAS THA OUT THERE AND WORK ON THE ENTRA AND ROADWAYS. I HAVE JEAN HERE WE HAVE ANY DETAILED QUESTIONS. PLOOKING PROBABLY THE EXTENSION UNTIL MARCH OF APRIL 2023 TO CO HOPEFULLY TO USE BY SHORTLY AFT TIME PERIOD. ANY QUESTIONS ON OKAY, NUMBER 2. I'M REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO AMEND THE LIST EXEMPTIONS FOR OUR PURCHASING R POLICIES OF CHAPTER 10. THERE ITEMS I LIKE TO ADD TO THE EXEM THIS WAS SOMETHING I HANDED OUT TO THE MEETING. I WILL READ IT FIRST ONE WILL BE PAYMENTS FOR TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT PERMANENT DRAINAGE EASEMENTS. AGREEMENT OTHER SIMILAR EASEMEN AGREEMENTS RELATED TO COUNTY CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. SECOND WOULD BE PAYMENTS RELATED TO TH EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE PRO ERA OR OTHER SIMILAR PROGRAMS. PAYMENTS WOULD INCLUDE BUT NOT TO PAYMENTS OF RENTAL ASSISTANC LANDLORD'S OR TENANT PAYMENTS.

COULD GET THIS OR IF I COULD GE APPROVAL ON THIS INTO THESE 2 A EXEMPTION LIST WHICH IS QUITE L WILL NOT READ EVERY ONE OF THE WHAT IT ALLOWS US TO DO IS PAY QUICKER THROUGH DIRECT PAINT IN

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>> OKAY. ANYONE HAVE ANY ISSUE >> IS A RENTAL ASSISTANCE READY

BESIDES THAT? >> YES MA'AM.

>> OBLIGATIONS ARE READY? YOU TO ACCEPT APPLICATIONS?

>> WE'VE BEEN ACCEPTING TOO. >> I WAS TOLD SOMEONE SAID IT W UNTIL JANUARY SO THAT'S WHY I'M

>> NO MAN'S APPLICATION IS READ BEEN REVIEWING IT TODAY WHISKED WILL OPERATIVELY THE HELP OF TH BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO ON THE FRAUDULENT APPLICATIONS. READY THOSE 3 NONPROFITS TO HEL APPEARED LIKE MERCY, OPERATION BARNABAS. SOME OF THEM WILL TH PEOPLE BEFORE THEY COME TO THE TO MAKE SURE WE TURN IT ONLINE HAVE ANYBODY TO APPLY. ANY PER APPLICATIONS WERE FRAUDULENT.

GONNA TRY TO PREVENT THAT BY DO DIFFERENTLY THIS TIME. AS WE M

FORWARD. >> A CITIZEN CAN STILL GET ON A

>> YES MA'AM. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. NEED A VOTE.

>> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL FOR TEMP EXEMPTIONS.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE

IF I SAY I. SHE CARRIES 5 Ã0. >> THANK YOU MOUNT. NUMBER 3 LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION WILL MEE IN THE BOARDROOM ON MONDAY 19 D AT 3 PM. WE WOULD WELCOME THEM ALSO INTRODUCE THE SOUTHERN GRO THEM. WE WILLYEAR-OLD OUR TIME COMMUNITY. WE LISTEN TO WHAT C HAVE TO SAY IN THE GROUPS THAT I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE A WORKSHOP DISCUSS THE BOARD'S PRIORITIES TUESDAY 17 JANUARY AT 1000. IF PLEASES THE BOARD. IF THERE'S ISSUES.

>> IF YOU NEED TO GO BACK AND C YOUR CALENDARS LET TERESA KNOW.

>> IF THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH TH PICK WHAT WOULD'VE BEEN A FINAN AUDIT DAY. IT WOULD MAKE IT AT O'CLOCK.

>> I THINK OF A PROBLEM WITH TH

>> YOU DO? THANK YOU. >> IF I CAN HAVE A BACKUP DAY I GO 1000 ON TUESDAY OF THE 10TH THAT'S A DAVID BCC. WE'VE HAD WORKSHOPS BEFORE THE ENROLLMENT BCC IN THE AFTERNOON. WOULD TH

OKAY? >> I WOULD PREFER THAT NOT BE A.

>> I WILL LOOK AT FURTHER DATES THE WEEK OF THE 16TH TIERED THA THROUGH FRIDAY THERE. I WILL W REAL-TIME THAT PLEASES THE CHAI

>> OKAY. >> YES MADAM CHAIR.

>> LATE THAT WEEK WOULD WORK. >> YOU HAVE MARTIN LUTHER KING

THAT MONDAY. >> I KNEW MONDAY WOULDN'T WORK.

>> YOU CAN'T DO THE WHOLE WEEK? >> I'M ONLY OFF. I HAVE A TRIA

TO BE OUT. >> WITH THE 20TH WORK? WE WILL THAT. OBLIGATE WITH THE BOARD PAND INDIVIDUALLY AND D CONFLIC TERESA, PLEASE HELP ME OUT ON T THIS TURNED UP AT THE STAKE THE TO GET THE ADVERTISEMENT OUT. WILL WORK THAT. AND THE OTHER I PASSED OUT, I APOLOGIZE. I M THE COMMITTEES HERE I BEEN WORK MADAM CHAIR TO FILL THE LIST OF APPOINTMENTS FOR THESE PARTICUL COMMITTEES. THEY ARE LISTED HE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR ABOUT TO 2 WEEKS NOW AT THIS POINT. ALL LISTED ON HERE. THERE ARE LIKE TO POINT OUT. THE FIRST O ANSWERS NO FINANCE AND AUDIT LI HERE BASED ON THE BOARD'S DECIS MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEW AND I BCC AND CONSENT AGENDA. SECOND NORTHEAST FLORIDA IS ON THE BAC COMMUNITY ACTION GROUP. IT'S A THAT'S DRIVING FORCE TO COMBAT THEY HAVE MEETING SISTERS ARE REQUESTING BROTHER EXECUTIVE DI TO PARTICIPATE. THEY FOCUS ON COMMUNITY SERVICE BLOCK GRANTS THAT. WHAT I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE HAVE ASSUMED MEETINGS USUALLY T

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>> I CAN READ THE EMAIL THAT CA THEM.

>> OH YEAH. >> THE EMAIL, I DON'T WANT TO L SEAT BECAUSE WHAT SHE SAYS HERE NORTHEAST FLORIDA COMMUNITY ACT AGENCIES AND NONPROFIT AGENCIES PROVIDE SERVICES TO MORE THAN 1 LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS ANNUALLY MISSION IS TO COLLABORATE WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO STABILIZE VULNERABLE HOUSEHOLDS AND EMPOW FAMILIES IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA T ACHIEVE SELF-SUFFICIENCY THROUG EDUCATION, EMPLOYMENT AND ADVOC ACCORDING TO THEIR BYLAWS AND T CDBG ACT ELECTED OFFICIALS OR T REPRESENTATIVE MUST MAKE UP AT 3RD OF THE AGENCY'S BOARD. WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN OPENING FOR A MEMBER FROM ELECTED OFFICIALS I COUNTY THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO WE CAN APPOINT A REPRESENTATIVE CAN APPOINT GABBY TO DO THAT OR COULD APPOINT A COMMISSIONER AS I WANTED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSAT WE COULD HAVE GABBY GO DO IT IN AND COME BACK TO US. THE REQUE MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR SOMEONE F COUNTY. WANTED TO MAKE SURE I

THAT REPRESENTATION AS WELL. >> I AM ALSO GOING TO VOICE MY ABOUT OUR COUNTY MANAGER ATTEND THESE. THESE ARE CEOS OF THE S DON'T WANT TO POLLUTE HIS TIME ATTENDING MEETINGS AND NOT DIRE

THE STAFF. >> I DID NOT MAKE THAT APPOINTM

WAS A VOLUNTEER. >> I DON'T CARE WHO DID.

>> I KNOW BUT YOU KNOW IT I MEA >> THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN HOME A COMMISSIONER. I THINK IT AUDIT BE HELD BY COMMISSIONER.

>> OKAY YOU'RE TAKING ISSUES WI BLUE EIGHTS AND TRAILS. WE NEE TALK ABOUT THE NORTHEAST COMMUN AGENCY. YOUR POINT IS ALONG TH OF MINE. WHEN PEOPLE ASK FOR A COMMISSIONER TO SIT IN THESE AN CERTAINLY THAT YOU'RE NOT, THAT COMING OUT WELL AT 10 O'CLOCK A

>> IS ON THE JUDGMENT OF YOUR ABILITIES.

>> I UNDERSTAND. I USUALLY ATT ANYHOW I USUALLY JUST TRY TO MA EASIER. ALWAYS BRING THAT BACK YEAH, I WILL TAKE DIRECTION.

>> MY POINT IS THAT COMMITTEE O BE, THAT INFORMATION OUGHT TO G FOR LOUISA GREENWAYS. SOMEHOW, YOU'RE IN THE TPL.

>> YEAH, I'M ALSO TPL. BUT, SO ABOUT YOU DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE O

ANYTHING ELSE? >> MY NAME IS ON THAT LIST WAY I WAS GOING TO ASK IF, WEB 2 TH NEED TO ADDRESS ARE 3 THINGS NO OR THE PUBLIC SAFETY COORDINATI I'M SORRY THE NORTHEAST FLOAT C ACTION AGENCY OWES CANALS COMMI COMP IF YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN NOT BOARD MEMBER IF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS AGREE. I CAN GIV

THIS PACKET YOU CAN READ. >> I WILL TAKE THAT. AND THEN VALUE ADJUSTMENT BOARD. WE HAV ELECT A SECOND REPRESENTATIVE.

COMMISSIONER BRENDA GERTZ ARE D THERE. THERE MEETING NOW. THE CURRENTLY. I LIKE TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER CELLA.

>> UNOFFICIALLY BE BROUGHT BACK JANUARY MEETING AT THE REQUEST

CLERK'S OFFICE. >> IT BE NICE IF THEY COMMUNICA

THAT. >> I DID COMMUNICATED. I APOLO

GUESS THE MESSAGE TO THAT GET T >> WHAT IS THE PURPOSE?

>> EVEN GO AHEAD AND DO IT NOW WANT. THEY RUN IT AND THIS IS PROGRAM AND ONLY COMMUNICATED A THEY JUST SAID WOULD YOU PLEASE

ON THE JANUARY AGENDA. >> WE WILL LEAVE THAT ONE OPEN.

>> IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO YOU CAN AHEAD AND I WILL REMOVE IT FROM

AGENDA. IT'S FINE. >> NO, IT'S FINE. WE CAN WAIT.

SHOULD NOTE THAT. TERESA CAN Y A NOTE ABOUT NEXT YEAR. AS ALL

OF ROLES. >> SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPE COMMISSIONER BOLA. THE ONLY RE YOU'RE REPLACING AT THIS TIME I BECAUSE HE IS NO LONGER A COMMI

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>> HERE'S WHAT I WAS GIVEN. A PAPER LIKE THIS THAT SAID MAKE APPOINTMENTS FOR THIS YEAR AS C

>> THAT'S ALL I DID. >> SO HOWEVER YOU DECIDE WILL C ON UNTIL THEY ROLLOFF FOR THE C OFFICE ASKS FOR DIFFERENT APPOI

WHATEVER YOU PUT ON WILL CONTIN >> DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE BECA

SAID YOU'RE ON HER WAY TO MUCH. >> HE HAS TO CONTINUE BECAUSE H

CHAIR. >> BUT THERE SHOULD BE AN ALTER

>> NOT SO MUCH AN ALTERNATE BUT SECOND COMMISSIONER HAS TO ATTE > SO IT'S NOT AN ALTERNATE IT'S SECOND COMMISSIONER? > AFTER Y FINISH THE SESSION IF YOU NO LO WANT TO SERVE AFTER THIS PROCES CONTINUED THEN YOU SHOULD LET T CLERK'S OFFICE KNOW AND THEN YO

REAPPOINT. >> BUT WE HAVE TO SIGN ANOTHER

COMMISSIONER NOW? >> CORRECT.

>> OR JANUARY WHATEVER. >> NORMALLY THESE PEOPLE GET AS IN JULY. BUT, THE PROBLEM, AND SERVE UNTIL THEY DECIDE NOT TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE ASKED FOR SO DIFFERENT. THE PROBLEM WAS IT COMMISSIONER BOLA AND HE NO LON SERVE.

>> MAYBE WE NEED MORE UNDERSTAN THAT.

>> THE VAB HANDLES. >> OH, I KNOW WHAT IT IS.

>> DOESN'T GET IN THE FACTS AND ROLLING UNTIL LATER IN THE YEAR PEOPLE ARE GETTING CLOSE TO TAX IF YOU'D LIKE TO PUT ME DOWN AN

GLAD TO SERVE. >> I AM AFRAID TO.

>> NO, GO AHEAD. >> OF IMMEDIATE WITH THE CLERK

TOMORROW. MAYBE B. >> MAYBE BRING IT OUT. YOU CAN MY NAME IT WE CAN MAKE IT OFFIC JANUARY.

>> WE STILL HAVE TO ADDRESS BLU AND TRAILS. CELL, IT MEETS IN ISLAND ONCE A MONTH IS ANYONE W LIKE TO COME UP THEY MEET IN TH

EVENING HOWARD? >> YES MA'AM. NORMALLY IT STAR

AROUND 5 O'CLOCK. >> 5 O'CLOCK. IS THERE ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH THE COUNT MANGER TO THOSE MEETINGS AND BE

TO REPORT BACK? >> I WILL GO. THEY MAY NOT WAN

BE THERE. [LAUGHTER] >> I WE DON'T WANT YOU TO GET F

MY COMMITTEE. >> I THINK I DID.

>> YOU DID? HAVE YOU ALREADY B FIRED FOR THIS ALREADY?

>> THEY INVITED ME ONE TIME AND WAS AT 5 YEARS AGO. IT WILL BE SURPRISE. I THINK IT WAS WHEN HIM ROADS ARE MEANT FOR CARS NO

BICYCLES. >> THIS IS NOT COMMISSIONER CEL

>> UNWILLING TO GO AND GIVE IT SHOT.

>> I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE >> THEY DO MEET IN A CHURCH. T

HAVE TO ASK TO BE FORGIVEN. >> MAY BE ABLE TO GO BLUE WAYS TRAILS WHEN IT'S NOT 10 O'CLOCK NIGHT AND EVERYONE IS NOT TIRED WILL TAKE UP BOTH OF THOSE. DO WANT US TO WAIT ON THOSE AND YO TO READ THIS BEFORE WE PUT YOUR ON? WHY DON'T WE DO THAT. SHE THE PACKET THAT CAME FROM NORTH COMMUNITY ACTION AGENCY AND, TH NOT MEET BEFORE WE COME BACK ON 10. LET'S TALK ABOUT ALL OF TH

DIFFERENT TIME. IS THAT GOOD? >> YES MA'AM. WE WILL UPDATE ACCORDINGLY AND COME BACK TO JA WITH THESE 3 NOMINATED. I WILL AS AN AGENDA ITEM ALSO. OKAY. THE LINES OF THIS TOO. JUST A THE COMMUNITY. WE WILL NOT HAV FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE MEE THE 20TH F DECEMBER. THAT WOUL THE NORMAL ONE. THIS IS THE LA MEETING HERE IN 2022. REAL QUI THE COMMUNITY WITH REGARDS TO O CLOSURES. STARTING ON THE 22ND DECEMBER ALL GOVERNMENTAL FACIL WILL BE CLOSED AFTER 3 PM THIS BCC, PROPERTY APPRAISER, CLERK CLERK AND CCO ADMIN. THE OFFIC CLOSED FOR CHRISTMAS BOTH ON FR 23RD AND MONDAY THE 26TH. FOR YEAR'S, SAME HOLDS FOR 30 DECEM THAT FRIDAY OFFICES THROUGHOUT COUNTY WILL BE CLOSED AT 3 PM.

INCLUDES US. THE CLERK, THE PR APPRAISER AND CCSO ADMIN AFTER NOTE, BY THE WAY WE ARE CLOSED YEAR'S ON JANUARY 2. JUST A NOT TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE WILL BE ON THOSE DAYS, 22 DECEMBER, 30 AND WHAT THE GET STAY IS DOING. HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT GOES

[LETTERS OF DOCUMENTATION]

[06:15:17]

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNTY MAN ALL RIGHT, LETTERS OF DOCUMENTA WE WILL HAVE OUR BID OPENINGS F TABULATIONS FOR DECEMBER 2 AND OUR SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT. MR. WHO WOULD LIKE TO US?

>> IS ANYBODY AWAKE? >> I THANK YOU GET FREQUENT FLY MILES. IF YOU HAVE FOOD WE WIL YOUR FOOD. I COULD BE BRIBED.

[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]

>> I WILL. MERRY CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR. I'M EXCITED ABOUT TH YEAR AND EXCITED FOR WHAT WE AR ACCOMPLISH. THANK YOU ALL AND

YOUR FAMILIES. >> I'M NEXT. A COUPLE THINGS.

COME UP CRISIS INTERVENTION MAP WITH FIRE WATCH. WHAT WAS THAT WEEK? 2 WHOLE DAYS. I TENDED DAY PLUS. I'M LOOKING FOR THOU HE. WHEN IT WAS IS WHERE THE INTERSECTIONS OF THAT VETERANS INTO PROBLEMS, GET FRUSTRATED A COULD BE FAMILY PROBLEMS, IT CO TRANSPORTATION. COULD BE MONDA HOUSING OR WHATEVER. ONE OF TH OUTCOMES WAS TRANSPORTATION IS PROBLEM AND HOUSING AS A TRANSP PROBLEM FOR OUR VETERANS. IT C EMOTIONAL STRESS. ON TOP OF PS ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. IT COU CREATE A PROBLEM. IT WAS FUNDE FIRE WATCH. WE ALSO I THINK 3 OF US HAVE ATTENDED A TRANSIT S YOUR DISTRICT. I WANT TO PROMO COUNTYWIDE WE ARE LOOKING AT TH FOOTPRINT IN CLAY COUNTY. IS T PROPER FOOTPRINT NEED TO BE EXT MOUNTED? RETRACTED? WHAT DOES FUTURE HOLD FOR CLAY COUNTY IN REALM OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. TO KNOW THAT WHAT THE PUBLIC TH NOT ATTENDED. AT THAT THERE WI PUBLIC MEETINGS OF THE CHAMBER END AS WELL. GATEWAY TOOK LIKE TALKED ABOUT THAT QUITE A BIT.

PWILL I DO IN THE STUDY . OR MO FOOTBALL DOWN THE FIELD. SMART TO COMPLEMENT SHERIFF BOOK. I CALLS OVER THE LAST 2 TO 3 WEEK PANHANDLING. ALL OVER THE COUN THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMUNICATIO LOT OF WORK WITH YOU TO SEE HER IMPLEMENTED A NEW PROCESS WITH LIGHTED SIGNS. WITH A LITTLE Q SAYING DON'T WORRY MAN OUT THE BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU WHAT. SEEN, I'M GONNA SAY ZERO PANHAN SINCE WE STARTED SHOWING THE SI BLANDINGAND WELLS. I DON'T KNO ELSE THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN PLACE KNOW HOWARD WAS OUT FLORIDA ASS OF COLLEGE TRAINING TRAINING SE WEEKS AGO. ALTHOUGH COUNTY MAN ARE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THIS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE STATE OF F WITH THAT, I WISH EVERYBODY A M CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.

>> I WILL KEEP MY COMMENTS SHOR WELL. I WANT TO START WITH A T YOU. ANOTHER LAST COUPLE WEEKS BEEN PARTICULARLY CHALLENGING.

BUT, I HAVE HAD A TREMENDOUS AM SUPPORT ESPECIALLY WANT TO GIVE SHOUT OUT. HE IS ANSWERED ALL QUESTIONS. I STILL MANAGED TO OF THE MOST OFF-THE-WALL QUESTI AGAINST ME THESE CRAZY LOOKS LI SHE COMING FROM. I APPRECIATE PATIENCE. I APPRECIATE THE STA GENERAL HERE HAS BEEN AMAZING. BEEN A LONG TO BE ASKED BUT I H ENJOYED IT. TERESA, YOU ARE MY IT HAS APPEARED AND HAS APPEARE EXCITED AND GRATEFUL. MERRY CH HAPPY NEW YEAR'S. ENJOY YOUR F

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KNOW. HAPPY NEW YEAR. >> HAPPY NEW YEAR. I'M GONNA K REALLY SHORT BECAUSE THE TIME I ESSENCE. WHO FOR 1030 IN THE P NOBODY? TO BAD. IN ALL SERIOU THANK YOU TO STAFF ALL YEAR.

ALWAYS RISE TO THE OCCASION AND TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE AND WE C COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOU. CE GUYS DO A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU DEPUTIES TODAY. I DON'T KNOW I GUYS DREW SHORT STRAWS KNOWING GONNA BE HERE LATE. WE APPRECI YOU GUYS DO IT AND HELP US OUT.

LIKE TO ADD THE SAME SENTIMENTS CHRISTMAS, HAPPY NEW YEAR WE WI

YOU AGAIN AFTER THE NEW YEAR. >> I FIND GREAT IRONY WE STARTE MEETING WITH CONVERSATION ABOUT ADDING TIME TO THE MEETING. IT LONG MEETING. DO YOU SEE THE R DON'T SEE THE CHALLENGE FLAG CA

ME? >> EARLIER MADE A COMMENT I SHO HAVE MADE EITHER BECAUSE I'M TI HUNGRY. AT ANY RATE I WOULD SA PUBLIC THAT WE, OUR STAFF PUTS TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME TO GE READY TO HAVE THESE MEETINGS TW MONTH. BECAUSE OF THE CALENDAR WAY IT FALLS THEY WOULD HAVE TO DURING THE HOLIDAYS AND SO THAT THE BCC DOES NOT MEET THE SECON IN DECEMBER. THEREFORE TONIGHT AGENDA WAS UNUSUALLY LONG. COM IN JANUARY AND WE WILL SEE IF W SHORTER AGENDA OR NOT. ON THAT ALSO WANT TO EXPRESS MY SENTIME WERE SO APPRECIATIVE OF STAFF A LONG AND ALL OF YOU WHO WORK SO ANSWER ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS, TA CHALLENGES AND ARE VERY PATIENT ESPECIALLY ME. I APPRECIATE TH WANT TO SAY I KNOW ALL OF THE A EXPRESS YOUR CONGRATULATIONS TO COLLINS WAS OFFICIALLY RETIRING TOMORROW. HAS HAD MANY YEARS O SERVICE, THURSDAY, THURSDAY, NO

TOMORROW. >> SHE THOUGHT IT WAS AFTER MID

>> AT ANY RATE WE APPRECIATE SO LIKE 20 YEARS OR MORE SERVICE T COUNTY AND WHEN I HAD SPOKEN TO SEVERAL MONTHS AGO HE HAD SAID GOING TO ENJOY SOME TIME KAYAKI JUST ENJOYING THE OUTDOORS AND FAMILY. WELL DESERVED AND WE APPRECIATE HIS SERVICE TO CLAY

WITHOUT B&. >> HAS A MOTORHOME.

>> HAS A MOTORHOME SO HE IS GOI GO.

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